[12:27] <_StefanS_> night === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-039-126.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44639.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh is now known as \sh_away === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-114-182.w90-12.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === besonen_mobile [n=besonen_@71-220-233-253.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:44] morning all === LongPointyStick [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:05] hey Hobbsee [03:05] :) === dregorth [n=dregorth@66-190-240-43.dhcp.klmt.or.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === dregorth [n=dregorth@66-190-240-43.dhcp.klmt.or.charter.com] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lando [n=lando@adsl-225-119-22.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LongPointyStick is now known as Hobbsee === Hobbsee is now known as LongPointyStick === apacheLAGger [n=me@N818P030.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=chatzill@dial-207-254-131-11.dyn.infochan.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === dregorth [n=dregorth@66-190-240-43.dhcp.klmt.or.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEE6EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cmvo [n=cmvo@ex4.73a.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.230.4] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEE6EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:15] ryanakca: new kmilo works on gutsy [09:17] ryanakca: did not play with customiation, but I am sure kwwii can do something nice with it ;-) === amachu [n=amachu@122.164.175.90] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:25] hi, I would like to have list of all applications included in Kubuntu [09:25] any place, link URL ? === dre|lappy [n=dregorth@66-190-240-43.dhcp.klmt.or.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:43] Lure: I wonder if we need to have it themable [09:43] Lure: (kmilo) [09:46] mhb: we just need good default === cmvo [n=cmvo@ex4.73a.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@dD5E0D32D.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:52] Lure: good news - http://www.notmart.org/index.php/BlaBla/Polyester_2:_the_mighty_future! [09:54] mhb: great === Arby [n=richard@82.152.169.97] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@v213-022.vps.tuwien.ac.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:15] hey all [10:16] hi hobbsee. [10:16] Hobbsee: did you experience problems with the umount dialog? === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:18] fdoving: yeah [10:18] fdoving: never seems to unmount cleanly === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:18] Unfortunately, the device system:/media/sdb1 (/dev/sdb1) named 'CRUZERDISK' and currently mounted at /media/CRUZERDISK could not be unmounted. [10:18] Unmounting failed due to the following error: [10:18] Cannot remove directory [10:18] Moreover, programs still using the device have been detected. They are listed below. You have to close them or change their working directory before attempting to unmount the device again. [10:18] Cannot stat /media/CRUZERDISK: No such file or directory [10:18] Cannot stat /media/CRUZERDISK: No such file or directory [10:19] Cannot stat /media/CRUZERDISK: No such file or directory [10:19] is the error i get [10:19] often it shows processes as well [10:19] that's an HAL error. can you umount with pumount ? [10:20] havent tried [10:20] syntax? [10:20] pumount /media/CRUZERDISK [10:20] fdoving: ah right. yep [10:20] no errors [10:20] ok, if you try again with the kde-way? [10:21] same errors as before [10:21] hum.. well, is that kde 3.5.7? [10:21] and i get the unmount dialog box slowly going, too [10:21] yep [10:21] slowly? [10:22] well, i've just discovred that it still exists - behind the error box [10:22] did you install kio-umountwrapper ? [10:23] sarah@LongPointyStick:~$ policy kio-umountwrapper [10:23] W: Unable to locate package kio-umountwrapper [10:23] (not that it has anything to do with the error messages at all, but it will provide the umountwrapper) [10:23] http://frode.kde.no/misc/kio_umountwrapper/ [10:24] http://frode.kde.no/misc/kio_umountwrapper/kio-umountwrapper_0.2-1ubuntu2_i386.deb presumably? [10:24] yep. === Hobbsee installs [10:25] seems faster to error out. *shrug* [10:25] what's it do? [10:25] in particular? [10:25] it's a wrapper around kio_media_mounthelper to make the new and fancier progressdialog. [10:26] ooh :) [10:26] the old one hacked into kdebase will disappear.. if it's still there. [10:26] but the errors are from hal, so something must be wrong somewhere. [10:26] if you get the error, and do 'fuser -vm /media/CRUZERDISK' - does it say anything? [10:27] after getting the error, before hitting ok? [10:27] ooh, i see :) [10:28] fdoving: Cannot stat /media/CRUZERDISK: No such file or directory x3 [10:30] hmm.. [10:31] i'm assuming it's removing the directory first, and tehn saying "help, i cant unmount!" [10:32] presumably it calls by the mount point, rather than by the /dev/$da# [10:32] probably something like that. but that must be something that changed in 3.5.7, i have not seen any commits to that section though. [10:32] there's been talk about 3.5.7 breaking something with media again [10:33] i'm not surprised if our mediapatches (which sucks bigtime) breaks something when applied to 3.5.7. [10:34] we did say fix or remove them [10:34] but i think _Sime_ was goign to fix them? [10:34] s/sucks bigtime/is a mess/ [10:34] or said he was? [10:35] don't know. i've been fixing a few small issues. === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F723F2.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:43] fdoving: are you the author of that kio unmountwrapper? [10:45] Hobbsee: yes. [10:45] any plans to get it into ubuntu? [10:46] yes, tonio is handling that. [10:46] cool [10:47] it'll appear on revu some time soon. [10:47] keep an eye on it, and give it a +1 :) [10:48] it needs to be in main to be usefull.. so it'll need a few +1s [10:48] <\sh> and a nice main inclusion report ,-) [10:49] yeah, i'll let others to that, i have it, if others want it get it :) === \sh has right now only to do something for the linuxtag and presenting kubuntu === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _Sime_ [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:16] Hobbsee: thanks for kdepim fix [11:16] we just need somebody to give back kdegraphics now... [11:20] for the libpoppler thing? [11:20] Lure: ^ [11:20] Hobbsee: yep === Hobbsee should make her meeting wtih the tech board sometime soon, too. [11:20] Hobbsee: when do you have it? [11:21] havent made a time [11:22] <\sh> Hobbsee, for main yay [11:23] \sh: yes.... === \sh cheers for hobbsee :) [11:23] hehe [11:23] people already have it [11:23] er, have been === \sh is sad, to not have more time anymore for attending all the meetings...job, family, relocation, etc. is giving me a hard time :( === Hobbsee wants to get main privs, but doesnt want to meet up with teh scary tech board [11:24] :( [11:24] Riddell: I recall something was changed with dbus session bus [11:24] Riddell: strigidaemon does not sturt anymore on gutsy [11:24] Riddell: Connection Error (Failed to execute dbus-launch to autolaunch D-Bus session) [11:26] Hobbsee: you will be fine - there are not that scary afterall [11:27] rubbish. === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:28] <\sh> Hobbsee, mdz and the others are cool...you showed already, that you are ready for main... === _Sime_ [n=konversa@ip54579d1b.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:36] \sh: they're scary important people :P [11:37] <\sh> Hobbsee, well, they're cool...and they are not so important like the community behind it, just because, without the community, such a project like ubuntu won't succeed... [11:38] true === Hobbsee is just attempting to keep a relatively low profile, atm === tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:39] \sh: of course, going for core dev doesnt help with that. === Jucato [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:41] <\sh> low profiles are for fraidy-cats ;) [11:41] \sh: no, low profiles are good when there's lots of talk of harassment. [11:42] but yes, i'm a bit of a fraidy-cat for not liking being harassed :P [11:42] you would ahve thought i'd seen it all now, being a part of the tech world. [11:42] <\sh> Hobbsee, how is doing that, (forget me ;)) [11:43] \sh: s/how/who/ ? [11:43] <\sh> yeah [11:43] there's lots of stuff on planet, or was a week or so ago, and there's still lots on sounder [11:43] + a launchpad users thread === \sh doesn't read sounder, too much noise... [11:44] melissa wrote an open letter to the ubuntu community [11:45] about it all [11:45] there have been various responses [11:46] and work is worse, with one of the guys coming back to our department [11:59] I hope at least the developers have some sense, Hobbsee (regarding the open letter and all) [11:59] mhb: most of them do. excluding quinn. [12:01] Hobbsee: haven't heard of him/her [12:02] beryl lead. [12:03] let's all get sex-neutral nick and names. or let's just pick numbers. [12:05] <\sh> 666 the number of the beast ;) [12:05] that's reserved :) [12:06] fdoving: heh. why do you think i used Hobbsee exclusively while getting into all of this? === Dinofly [n=dinofly@mar92-13-88-165-255-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:07] fdoving: i only started using my real name a bit when i realised that i was likely to get sponsored to a UDS - so would need it to be known. [12:07] Hobbsee: i remember it :) [12:07] as in, that i couldnt hide forever [12:08] that being said - i introduced myself as hobbsee, or reintroduced myself as hobbsee, msot of the time - except to the distro team, etc, and the closer ubuntu people, who know who i was. [12:10] it's a shame that sex should impact anything in any way. [12:11] this is true [12:12] to be fair, though - ubuntu is fairly minor compared to other tech groups. [12:12] well, I'm happy that people are different [12:12] they dont stop you from participating, just due to gender [12:14] fdoving: do you think it's bad when people like me are happy that there are females interested in Kubuntu community? [12:14] mhb: no [12:14] mhb: not at all, i'm happy with everyone interessted in kubuntu community. === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [12:16] fdoving: so I think it's not a shame when we support minorities like females, even though it kind of fits into your "sex-impacting" scenario [12:16] mhb: i don't really care if they are women or men. they are persons to me. [12:16] fdoving: "names on a screen" [12:17] the minute you write a sentence you stop being a name on a screen to me [12:17] mhb: well, you're spot on here, i'm not for giving women advantages over men, just to have them around. no. [12:18] what matters is knowledge/skills. the "criterias" should be the same for everyone. [12:20] <\sh> mhb, women are not a minority...that's a men's myth [12:20] \sh: in this channel? [12:20] <\sh> mhb, in general [12:21] <\sh> and in here I just see kubuntu devs, community members [12:21] you see names, I see people - the difference === Hobbsee still has trouble matching names on irc with the people she met at UDS. [12:22] but then again, i'm bad at names [12:22] especially when people dont tell me who they are, nor wear nametags. *grumble* [12:23] <\sh> mhb, no...some of those "names" I know in person....but even then, riddell is just a kubuntu dev...I don't care if riddell is male or female... === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:23] hi toma [12:23] <\sh> the same applies to everyone else === kwwii [n=kwwii@p549547FA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee is just a crazy green alien [12:24] hey kwwii! how's the green going? [12:24] hi all, hi Hobbsee === Hobbsee ducks [12:24] howdy Hobbsee [12:24] \sh: your words were added to my term,b tw. [12:24] still trying to find the right pink to match the green === Hobbsee is the "purely evil, sexy, psycopathic bitch from au" [12:24] kwwii: ahh. show what you've got? === Hobbsee cant imagine pink and green together, really [12:25] <\sh> kwwii, moins, are you now at linuxtag? [12:25] \sh: nope, couldn't make it after all [12:25] I found someone else to take my place [12:25] <\sh> kwwii, ok...who is it? :) [12:25] sebas [12:26] <\sh> kwwii, oh this crazy dutch guy ... ;) [12:26] lol, exactly :p [12:26] <\sh> this will be a hard week for me... [12:26] <\sh> drinking and more drinking... [12:26] hah. poor you. [12:27] I'll be in italy in a few days and the week after that I'll be in california so my wife wouldn't let me go ;-) [12:27] <\sh> hope I won't start to dance with sebas again, like the last time during froscon [12:27] kwwii: just bring her [12:27] Hobbsee: she refuses to go to any linux related events [12:27] awww [12:27] <\sh> kwwii, which is quite good...someone has to stay focused on the real life ;) [12:28] just last night she told me "I am really proud of what you do, although I really don't understand what that is" [12:28] <\sh> kwwii, but when you are on a journey, you could give her this as a present...I just ordered one from UK for my GF (http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/335-Apple-is-not-amused,-but-you-should-be,-when-you-use-it.html) [12:29] hehe, yeah I saw that one [12:29] .... === \sh has to put a ,-> === Hobbsee stays silent. [12:29] provocative [12:31] <\sh> Hobbsee, I just had a phone call with her, she told me: "You fcking b*st*rd" with some noises which sounds like breaking the laptop [12:31] hah. [12:31] perhaps she wasnt impressed, then. [12:32] <\sh> nobody understands a joke :( [12:32] i'm not sure if that classes as one of the "guy jokes" [12:32] I expect more people to misunderstand it [12:32] grouped with the toilet jokes, etc. [12:33] <\sh> Hobbsee, tbh, when I read this on golem.de I was laughing like hell, just because this idea has to come from the british people [12:33] which go down fine in small male groups, usually with alcohol, but not so great with the general population. [12:33] heh. true. but still [12:33] <\sh> Hobbsee, and it's finest black humor... [12:34] you'll get more complaints because of the "gender-tense" mood around planet [12:34] this is true. but still. === Hobbsee wouldnt have posted it, but then again... === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db445ca.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee isnt one of the "in boy's club" either - which jokes like that only encourage. [12:36] why? anyone can use one of those. [12:37] i get your point, but you can't be that sensitive to things you read. [12:37] <\sh> I'm wondering, normally I would have several comments from niminy-piminiy US people, that I should be in Guantanamo or whereever...but today, nothing...I wonder why [12:37] \sh: they have probably scrambeled some CIA assasin squad to go get you. [12:38] <\sh> HOPEFULLY [12:38] <\sh> I would be arrested anyways when I enter the US [12:39] fdoving: i'm not that sensitive. i'm thinking of the otehr people in the ubuntu community who are [12:40] Hobbsee: well.. some magic with dansguardian could probably block *gasm* and *sex* from anything one reads. I mean, any news source on the internet writes things like that and similar every day. [12:41] <\sh> Hobbsee, the problem is more, that they think they have to be sensitive, just because they aren't in their real life...I'll tell you, most of those people who commented on my entry the last time, they are in real life the biggest machos ever...believe me === Hobbsee shrugs [12:42] of course, it's an interesting question whether we're only supposed to syndicate tech-type links to planet - or everything [12:42] <\sh> and most people have those toys already in their sleeping room , and bullying during their working time... [12:43] <\sh> anyways...I need a shower, and then I'll go out and have some fun with a couple of colleagues from work (both genders) [12:43] <\sh> bbl === \sh is now known as \sh_away [12:44] see you. [12:47] Hobbsee: i guess the goal must be to limit such things in the community, to make it possible for everyone to contribute without beeing hit in the face by things they try to avoid. === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-20-57.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-20-57.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.45.159] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma is now known as toma_ === toma_ [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Ooh,] === aplg [n=me@N791P023.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske_ [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:21] fdoving: that sounds about right [02:22] Hobbsee: good thing we agree on that. back to the umount issue, did you manage to make it work? - i'm upgrading a virtual machine to gutsy. takes some time, since it's edgy, need to go all the way. [02:23] fdoving: no i didnt really loko into it === Hobbsee knows close to nothing about this stuff [02:23] ok. [02:23] i'll upgrade and see what happens. [02:24] i'd really like your feedback on the new safely remove progress dialog though. [02:24] the kio-umountwrapper one. [02:24] looks nice :) [02:24] shiny [02:24] thanks, glad you like it. :) === TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508f1484.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === superstoned [n=supersto@86.92.111.236] has joined #kubuntu-devel === aplg is now known as apachelogger === glatzor [n=sebi@p57AEE6EE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:49] fdoving: a new look of the umountwrapper? [02:50] mhb: yes. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/61946/comments/65 [02:50] Launchpad bug 61946 in kdebase "[Edgy Data Loss] umount progress dialog missing" [High,Fix released] [03:01] Lure: so that kmilo works? [03:02] ryanakca: yes, I have your package on gutsy [03:02] ryanakca: did not play configuring it, but it looks nicer already as it is smaller [03:02] cool [03:02] ah [03:02] all the bettor [03:02] s/bettor/better [03:03] should I poke Hobbsee and/or Riddell to look at it for main, or wait till the meeting? [03:03] what's this now? === Hobbsee has no main privs [03:03] (yet) [03:03] Hobbsee: http://packages.ryanak.ca/pool/ryan-gutsy/kmilo/kmilo_3.5.7-1ubuntu2_i386.deb [03:04] brb, dog [03:05] Hobbsee: would you have time to take a look at this : http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5286 ??? [03:05] and the gossip spreads [03:05] mhb: which gossip? [03:07] ryanakca: is that the little gray one? [03:07] marseillai: what is it? [03:07] a tv program grabber [03:07] it use xmltv [03:07] oh, someone distributing the debian direcotry inside the source, presumably [03:07] to show tv program [03:08] yes [03:08] Hobbsee: the one with you having main privs :o) [03:08] and i've got a lintian error i don't understand [03:08] mhb: ahh. i dont. i still have to meet with the tech board. [03:08] and they scare me :P [03:08] lol [03:09] Hobbsee: it's a patched kmilo that is more compact and that can be skinned [03:09] neat :) [03:10] Hobbsee: Jucato put it on the agenda, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KMilo+-+Customizable+DefaultSkin?content=56287 [03:10] fdoving: I believe it is [03:11] cool :) [03:11] i heard rumours, but didnt follow it up [03:11] ryanakca: i prefer this one: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=56287&file1=56287-1.png&file2=56287-2.jpg&file3=56287-3.png&name=KMilo+-+Customizable+DefaultSkin [03:11] ryanakca: prepare debdiff for review and send it to kubuntu core-dev (Riddell, Tonio_, imbrandon, \sh and soon Hobsee) [03:12] fdoving: I believe that they are all the same, just themed differently [03:12] Hobbsee even ;-) [03:12] ryanakca: yep, can be changed in kmilodrc [03:12] Lure: heh [03:12] we don't have to have it themable, just improved [03:13] Lure: okies. debdiff = `debdiff foor-1.diff.gz foo-2.diff.gz > debdiff-foo-1-foo-2` ? [03:13] so I think we could wait with diffs&packaging on after the meeting [03:14] ryanakca: debdiff old.dsc new.dsc [03:14] ah [03:14] ryanakca: then review that it only contains what you think it should ;-) [03:14] mhb: so I'll add a link to the debdiff and package in the meeting agenda? [03:15] ryanakca: well I expected some changes on that patch before we include it [03:15] ryanakca: such as kwwii reviewing the look [03:16] mhb: the look is set in kmilodrc in k-d-s [03:16] but, okies [03:16] ryanakca: the current one? [03:16] ryanakca: or the future one? === Huahua_ [n=hua_@122.0.230.4] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:17] ryanakca: well, it seems you want to get in the "themable" patch [03:17] the one I packaged. [03:17] lol === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-20-57.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:18] ryanakca: isn't there a "hardcoded new theme" patch and a "customizable" patch? [03:18] well, it's not /that/ big of a thing. It took me a whole 10 minutes to set up :) [03:19] ryanakca: I think it's better to have a "hardcoded theme" rather than "totally customizable theme" [03:19] why? [03:19] fdoving: performance? [03:19] customizable through kmilodrc doesn't make it that slow. [03:19] mhb: yes, the customizable patch is a dependency of the two other patches. http://downloads.guillermoamaral.com/linux/kde/kmilo/howto [03:20] we're not on 80806 here anymore. [03:20] -0 [03:20] fdoving: well [03:20] fdoving: maybe you aren't :o) but fun aside, I don't see a reason why this particular thing should be themable [03:20] fdoving: it adapts to the widget style [03:21] then just don't set anything in the kmilodrc, it'll stick to the defaults. [03:21] fdoving: you may be right, of course. But I'd like to see that decision made at the meeting. [03:21] kmilodrc is a grand total of 5 lines. It isn't a great big config file like apache... and wouldn't it get stored in the swap/ram once it's run, instead of checking all the time [03:21] yeah [03:22] I agree on that point [03:22] i consider that as wasted meeting-time. [03:22] but that's me. [03:22] mhb: but, even if it doesn't get themed, at least it's more compact and cleaner looking [03:23] ryanakca: sure, I agree with having one of the patches in [03:23] ryanakca: I like the "clean" style you posted a link to [03:24] Lure: ummm. Is there a reason why the debdiff only contains my changelog entry? === Hobbsee picks a day === ryanakca prays that it's a saturday [03:24] fdoving: you don't have to be there :o) [03:25] how's 30 may, 1300 UTC? [03:25] for a kubuntu meeting? [03:25] Hobbsee: this is when that groupware server would come in handy :) [03:25] ryanakca: how did you apply the change? as patch? [03:25] Hobbsee: I'm not there, but, ohwell [03:26] ryanakca: no idea how long it will last, or go itno school early [03:26] Hobbsee: anything before 1600 utc is impossible for me. but i'm not important :) === Hobbsee has to go to work before that [03:26] fdoving: ahhh. [03:26] Lure: yes, I ran cdbs-edit-patch, wgetted the two patches, checked them, applied them, deleted the downloaded patch files and exited the patch system/editor [03:27] Hobbsee: go into school early? hmmm. Kinda right smack in the middle of Science :/ [03:27] actually, 30 may, 2100 UTC should work better [03:27] i should actually wake up by that oint [03:27] ryanakca: are you sure that you are debdiffing old version (original from repo)? === ryanakca checks, that sounds good [03:27] Hobbsee: perfect for me. [03:27] although i will have been at work the previous night... [03:27] ryanakca: it sound like you have first build old one without change log, then added changelog [03:28] oh, a whole lot of assignments shoudl be due by then, so... [03:28] what should the name of an app wich is in beta version. i've set KGmailNotifier_0.3.0.b2.orig.tar.gz am i right ? [03:28] Hobbsee: CET evening is better for me [03:28] Lure: i dont do CET. [03:28] Lure: convert or die. :P === Hobbsee is already converting in and out of AEST, dont give me extra timezones here. [03:28] Hobbsee: UTC+2 [03:29] Lure: aha! yes, now i remember, I had forgotten to add a changelog entry before running debuild [03:29] Lure: right, so the time set is better for you. [03:29] ryanakca: remove old .dsc/gz and apt-get source again [03:29] Hobbsee: yep, during the day I have to work ;-) and late in the evening kids are sleeping ;-) [03:29] :) [03:34] :( === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Adios Espania! | Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | Kubuntu Meeting on 30 May, 2100 UTC - see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings [03:34] dh_make don't find the source package [03:35] Hobbsee: good meeting time... ish. I'll only be there for half an hour, 45-min, but, oh well [03:35] right, OK [03:35] hopefully it'll only be on for that long, anwyay [03:35] Anybody can bring up my meeting points if I'm not there === mbiebl [n=michael@p549cdf03.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-20-57.w90-1.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === glatzor [n=sebi@p549661AB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:24] lol, can't apply for membership since I'll be promoting Kubuntu and Amarok in Berlin at the time of meeting [04:24] totally paradoxical [04:25] heh [04:25] apachelogger: that particular time, too? or just that day? [04:26] Hobbsee: well, I don't think I'll get a internet connection in berlin @ 21 UTC === nuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:27] considering that's 23 o'clock locale time I think [04:27] Hobbsee, Riddell: will we discuss the kubuntu council members? [04:27] apachelogger: ahhh [04:27] toma: that would be the plan. allee's not here, but he agreed to it at UDS [04:47] moins all [04:50] hi imbrandon [04:51] Hobbsee, :) [04:59] toma: yes [04:59] ah, we have a meeting, groovy [04:59] evening Riddell [05:00] Riddell: yeah, i've finally gotten around to actually doing something [05:05] Riddell: updated kio-apt for gutsy - http://frode.kde.no/misc/kio-apt-gutsy/ [05:20] Riddell: did you had time to look at kdenetwork with kopete-emoticons-manager? === Bent [n=bent@port46.ds1-esp.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:22] marseillai: not yet I'm afraid [05:23] no problem [05:23] just that i'm a bit impatient to know if i can think that now i'm "real" kubuntu contributor with my first main contribution. :) [05:24] top of my todo now [05:24] but might be tuesday before I get to it [05:25] oki === lucky_lucas [n=lucas@228.115.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:25] contributions to universe are real :) [05:25] fdoving: yes of course [05:26] and everyone here if you have some little work for me i take it... [05:28] marseillai: merge any kde package http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html [05:28] Riddell: what do you mean by "merge" ? === marseillai is not yet aware with all this vocabulary [05:29] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MOTU/Packages/Merging [05:29] thanks [05:29] k3b if you want to do something big and complex [05:29] but maybe pick a small universe package to start [05:29] yes [05:30] i'll start little to learn what to do :) === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === Riddell out [05:35] bye Riddell! [05:36] Hobbsee: bad news [05:36] nixternal: hm? [05:36] at 2100 on the 30th, Xubuntu will be using #ubuntu-meeting [05:36] if you need the 30th, you can do 18:00-20:00 or 22:00-0:00 [05:37] bloody timezones. [05:37] hehe [05:37] i'd thought i subtracted the day correctly [05:37] mmm...dammit. [05:38] hehe, you want to bump it a day or 2 and keep the same time? [05:38] um....yeah. [05:38] bump it to the 31st? [05:38] sure [05:38] thanks === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Hobbsee] : Adios Espania! | Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | Kubuntu Meeting on 31 May, 2100 UTC - see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings [05:40] still 2100 UTC.. good. [05:40] yeah [05:40] kdeaddons can be sync'd [05:40] done [05:41] thanks [05:41] Hobbsee, wanna file it in LP ? ( they adopted our changes but did so in a diffrent order in the file, thus the merge report ) [05:43] kdeaddons 4:3.5.7-2 [05:43] imbrandon: not overly, can you do it? === Hobbsee is doing maths assignment, etc [05:43] sure [05:45] thanks''' [05:45] besides, if i did it, depending on who was doing the archive run, they may want a sponsor :P [05:45] ahh you havent got your wings officialy yet ? [05:45] nope [05:45] TB want to meet up with me [05:46] ahh cool [05:46] not cool. [05:46] they probably want to grill me. [05:46] yes yes, we all got the grilling ;) [05:46] you'll do fine [05:48] you know what...Google can go to hell [05:49] anyone else notice today dell put a big ubuntu banner on the main page, not just www.dell.com/ubuntu === jjesse [n=jjesse@ppp-70-226-88-166.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:51] it isn't a Kubuntu logo, so I don't Kare ;) [05:51] haha [05:51] nixternal: it's a great calculator: http://www.google.com/search?q=2%2B2&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 :) [05:51] tafternoon [05:51] fdoving: Katapult is a great calculator :) [05:51] ok so its still morning :) [05:52] nixternal: that's not a cluster of thousands of linux machines :) [05:52] Hobbsee, LaserJock, Brandon, and others have been marked spammers by Google [05:52] @.@ [05:52] nixternal: oh? [05:52] nixternal: probably true. [05:52] mornin' jjesse [05:52] Hobbsee: ya, I am going through the spam thing and there are a ton of mailing list and bug emails that are marked spam by google [05:52] fun. [05:52] i wonder how that happened [05:53] gmail's filtering sucks, though. it's gotten worse [05:53] then I can use my ubuntu.com email to send email to my wife as ubuntu.com is black listed [05:53] I need to get off of gmail [05:53] my sister insists on using hotmail, mail from me is always tagged as spam, whatever i do. hotmail rocks too. [05:53] I could go with comcast or my dreamhost setup [05:53] heh [05:54] complaining about free (as in beer) things ? [05:54] Hobbsee: for merging i must choose an apps form Outstanding Merges or from Updated Merges! i'm not sur but i think it's from Outstanding Merges because Updated Merges are allready done. i'm right ? [05:54] marseillai: they have been done, butthen debian has updated afterwards [05:54] so do either [05:54] oki [05:54] anyone know what I would have to do in order to get the admins to switch my forward email address to? [05:54] ya, I have no idea what I just said [05:54] nixternal: change your preferred email in launchpad? [05:55] my preferred email is @ubuntu.com [05:55] I can email an admin and find out [05:55] nixternal: oh, then you'll probably have to talk to one of them.. [05:55]