[12:18] <hendaus> footbeta:  is there a good mp3 burner?
[12:19] <amikabil> hendaus: then you should have crd readers in your local stores. What do you think Bangladesh is a very developed country with riches & gagdets?Noo, it's far worse than columbia.trust me.
[12:20] <hendaus> footbeta:  is there a good mp3 burner? and keep helping me :)
[12:20] <hendaus> amikabil:   is there a good mp3 burner? and keep helping me :)
[12:22] <karl> when I go into System Settings>Monitor & Display and click "Administrator Mode" I stop getting signal to my monitor. Anyone know a fix?
[12:22] <karl> (I have two video cards, one PCI, one AGP)
[12:22] <amikabil> hendaus: by default installed k3b.
[12:23] <hendaus> amikabil:  i have k3b and i got error
[12:24] <hendaus> amikabil:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22639/
[12:31] <xlinux__> hello?
[12:32] <Maxdamantus> Am I able to stop it putting stuff to the clip board when I select it?
[12:33] <xlinux__> max, you mean with klipper?
[12:34] <Dannilion> Hello. Does anyone know how to get my bluetooth to cooperate (pair my bluetooth dongle connected to computer to nokia e61 for net access)?
[12:34] <xlinux__> maxdamantus; do you mean with klipper?
[12:34] <xlinux__> I dont think anyone is here
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Not sure.
[12:35] <Maxdamantus> In alot of programs, it copies to the clip board when I highlight something.
[12:35] <xlinux__> Maxdamantus; do you have klipper in your system tray (it looks like a clipboard)
[12:35] <Maxdamantus> Yea.
[12:35] <Maxdamantus> Oh. Config that?
[12:36] <xlinux__> yeah, go to configure klipper
[12:36] <xlinux__> then check the option that says ignore selection
[12:36] <Maxdamantus> Thanks.
[12:36] <Maxdamantus>  <xlinux__> then check the option that says ignore selection
[12:36] <Maxdamantus> Still seems to do it.
[12:37] <xlinux__> make sure to click ok for changes to take effect
[12:37] <Maxdamantus> Yea, I did.
[12:37] <Maxdamantus> And it's still checked.
[12:38] <xlinux__> and whenever you select any text in the system without copying it automatically copys the text to the klipboard?
[12:38] <Maxdamantus> Umm
[12:39] <Maxdamantus> I think it's only doing it with XChat now.
[12:39] <xlinux__> oh dang.. thats gotta be an Xchat option.. I have konverstsation, so I cant help you there...
[12:40] <xlinux__> how is xchat compared to konversation?
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> More comfortable. :P
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> Meh, I don't mind.
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> Was just in Firefox and Terminal which was the problem.
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> Sometimes things have bad colour schemes, and hard to read.
[12:41] <Maxdamantus> So I highlight to read them.
[12:41] <ubuntu> i am nooby for linux can i help my ?
[12:41] <Maxdamantus> With what?
[12:41] <ubuntu> i am franch
[12:41] <xlinux__> konversation is making me angry.. I cant make the dang server list go away
[12:42] <Maxdamantus> Lol. Use XChat. :d
[12:42] <Maxdamantus> Way more efficient for multi servers, and the server list only comes up when you tell it to
[12:42] <Maxdamantus> (Ctrl + S)
[12:42] <Maxdamantus> ubuntu, help with what?
[12:42] <Kartibok> Anyone any ideas what program I could use to write javascript on linux?
[12:43] <ubuntu> when go to googel
[12:43] <Kartibok> or recommend any applications
[12:43] <fdoving> Kartibok: kate or kwrite are both good.
[12:43] <Maxdamantus> Kwrite has syntax highlighting if that's what you mean.
[12:43] <Maxdamantus> And kate.
[12:44] <ahmed> guys, after installing xgl ,, when logging in xgl session under kde , screen messes up.. vga: ati .. plz help
[12:44] <Kartibok> Maxdamantus: yes I was after those addons to make it easier for me.
[12:44] <ubuntu> i am french sorry
[12:44] <Maxdamantus> Addons?
[12:44] <xlinux__> ubuntu; its fine; what do you need?
[12:44] <Maxdamantus> You can select what to treat it as in the menu somewhere.
[12:44] <Kartibok> as in better than Notepad
[12:44] <Maxdamantus> Or if it has an extension it knows, it tries that.
[12:45] <Maxdamantus> Eg: When I open my *.php scripts, it highlights the php syntax.
[12:45] <wasm> y'all ever here of kickban for stunts like that ?
[12:46] <Kartibok> I know that there are good ides out there such as netbeans and eclipse, so I thought there may be some posh javascript stuff
[12:47] <Maxdamantus> What do you mean by posh?
[12:47] <ahmed> guys, after installing xgl ,, when logging in xgl session under kde , screen messes up.. vga: ati .. plz help
[12:47] <Kartibok> Maxdamantus: easy and with lots of help and looks good ;)
[12:47] <Maxdamantus> :S
[12:48] <fdoving> wasm: stunts like what?
[12:48] <ubuntu> i am noodiz in linux and i wan to go google and i am french.
[12:48] <ubuntu> want
[12:48] <Maxdamantus> http://google.co.fr/
[12:49] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[12:49] <Maxdamantus> Wait, no.
[12:49] <Maxdamantus> http://google.ca/
[12:49] <fdoving> Kartibok: quanta might help you a bit.
[12:49] <Maxdamantus> No, that's canadian french
[12:50] <Kartibok> fdoving: just searching for it now
[12:50] <ubuntu> no paris french
[12:50] <Maxdamantus> http://www.google.com/intl/fr/
[12:50] <ubuntu> i am
[12:50] <Maxdamantus> I think that's it.
[12:51] <ubuntu> yes thanks
[12:51] <Maxdamantus> No problem.
[12:51] <ubuntu> i am noobiz in linux thanks
[12:51] <Maxdamantus> That hasn't really got anything to do with Linux. :P
[12:52] <Maxdamantus> I would've presumed it would redirct you to there if you went to Google.com, since your rDNS ends with .fr
[12:52] <wasm> fdoving: the server attack
[12:52] <wladimir> hi, howto setup the fb?
[12:52] <Maxdamantus> What server attack?
[12:52] <wladimir> the framebuffer
[12:52] <fdoving> wasm: what server attack?
[12:53] <wasm> fdoving: the wild ride we had a few minutes ago
[12:53] <fdoving> wasm: about multiple servers etc?
[12:53] <Kartibok> fdoving: Maxdamantus: many thanks for the ideas
[12:54] <fdoving> wasm: that was a discussion about two different irc clients.
[12:54] <phlawless> hello world
[12:54] <phlawless> any around
[12:55] <wasm> fdoving: discussion should not have caused half of the folks to leave and return in a few moments
[12:56] <fdoving> wasm: there was an attack in #ubuntu.
[12:56] <wasm> fdoving: I am a linux newbie but I have been doing chat stuff for a several years
[12:57] <wasm> fdoving: so it may have been just the one channel
[12:57] <xlinux__> wasm; then tell me how to make the konversation server list dissapear
[12:58] <phlawless> hey guys
[12:58] <wasm> xlinux: go into settings and remove them
[12:58] <phlawless> is there a linuxmce channell?
[12:58] <phlawless> new to linux and just installed kubuntu
[12:58] <phlawless> need some help
[12:58] <marko_> which help ?
[12:59] <phlawless> well i am basically fresh of the site
[12:59] <phlawless> so any newbee help would be great
[12:59] <ahmed> guys
[12:59] <Maruko> hi
[12:59] <ahmed> how to control start up programs
[12:59] <marko_> phlawless,  just say
[12:59] <marko_> what you need
[12:59] <Maruko> can anybody help me install compiz on kubuntu feisty?
[12:59] <ahmed> konversation always start up in the begining and i wanna disable its auto startup
[12:59] <ahmed> how to control start up aps ?
[12:59] <phlawless> i cant get linuxmce beta 2 to run
[01:00] <fdoving> ahmed: then quit it before logout. anything you leave running will be restarted on login, by default.
[01:00] <ahmed> well tried doing so
[01:00] <ahmed> but still
[01:00] <wasm> ahmed can you do it by uninstalling ?
[01:00] <xlinux__> ahmed; check to see if konversation is in the auto start folder
[01:01] <Maruko> can anybody help me install compiz on kubuntu feisty?
[01:01] <xlinux__> wasm... theres no option to hide the server list in settings
[01:01] <wasm> maruko: what is compiz?
[01:01] <xlinux__> I cant even X out of the server list
[01:02] <Maruko> .....
[01:02] <Maruko> it's like beryl
[01:02] <ahmed> xlinux__ where is the autostart folder ?
[01:03] <xlinux__> ahmed /home/username/.kde/autostart
[01:03] <wasm> Im not sure what beyrl is for
[01:04] <xlinux__> beryl is a window manager
[01:04] <xlinux__> like kwin or metacity
[01:04] <phlawless> i would like 2 install that also hehe
[01:04] <phlawless> beryl that is
[01:05] <parsifal> Buona sera atutti.
[01:06] <xlinux__> does anyone know how to eliminate the server list remaining open in konversation?
[01:07] <xlinux__> anybody?
[01:08] <ubuntu> http://www.google.com/intl/fr/
[01:09] <phlawless> anyone got time to help me install linuxmce beta 2
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> Ah, So that's how you get the KDE style wm inside GIMP.
[01:09] <ik> hi
[01:09] <Maxdamantus> Xnest*
[01:09] <pjotter> just installed kubuntu
[01:10] <Kartibok> pjotter: me too about 6 hrs ago.......great distro
[01:10] <Maruko> ok
[01:10] <Kartibok> imho
[01:10] <Maruko> can anybody help me install compiz?
[01:10] <pjotter> yes, it's the only linuxversion that runs my photoshop properly
[01:11] <pjotter> with wine
[01:11] <Maxdamantus> Lol.
[01:11] <Maxdamantus> I use vmware for Flash 8. That's it. :P
[01:11] <Maxdamantus> Wine has always been laggy and glitchy with flash.
[01:12] <Kartibok> Maruko: I installed the Beryl which looks to be the same
[01:12] <pjotter> vmware? is that another windows emu?
[01:12] <Maxdamantus> It's a virtual machine.
[01:12] <pjotter> okay
[01:12] <Maxdamantus> Like having a computer inside your computer.
[01:12] <pjotter> never heard of it
[01:12] <Maxdamantus> Can run whatever OS, as long as the chipset supports it.
[01:12] <pjotter> people recommended me wine
[01:12] <phlawless> its works pretty good on windows
[01:13] <Kartibok> VMWare is excellent I use it all the time,
[01:13] <phlawless> agreed
[01:13] <pjotter> I will give it a go with photoshop
[01:13] <Maxdamantus> You need Windows XP to use it.
[01:13] <Maxdamantus> (The disc)
[01:14] <phlawless> kartibok was install beryl hard
[01:14] <Kartibok> easy peasy
[01:14] <Maxdamantus> Kartibok, did you run it?
[01:14] <Kartibok> I can send the website I used
[01:14] <phlawless> what about linuxmce u install taht
[01:14] <phlawless> please
[01:14] <phlawless> send away
[01:14] <Maruko> KArtibook :  Beryl seems not to work on my pc
[01:14] <Maruko> but well
[01:14] <Maruko> please help me if u can
[01:14] <Maxdamantus> Maruko, did you run it?
[01:15] <Maxdamantus> Run beryl and emerald
[01:15] <Maruko> can you help me reinstall it whole again?
[01:15] <Kartibok> These instructions were brilliant http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html
[01:15] <pjotter> I'm  still a ms user... thinking of switching to linux
[01:16] <Kartibok> Maxdamantus: I use it at home and work. I have about 5 servers set up with databases and windows domains complete with Oracle etc
[01:16] <Maxdamantus> pjotter, there is actually a program which lets you run Windows programs on the Linux desktop natively.
[01:16] <pjotter> what is it?
[01:16] <Maxdamantus> Win4Linux or something.
[01:16] <Maxdamantus> You run Windows in the background.
[01:16] <pjotter> :)
[01:16] <pjotter> nice
[01:16] <Maxdamantus> And it sends the Windows from Windows to the xserver.
[01:16] <Kartibok> and most linux distros.....
[01:17] <Maxdamantus> You need to pay for it though.
[01:17] <Kartibok> I have the Workstation version
[01:17] <Kartibok> but as you said you have to pay
[01:18] <pjotter> well... wine seems to  work fine here
[01:18] <pjotter> no prblems with that
[01:18] <pjotter> I just did a complete install of photoshop under wine
[01:18] <Maxdamantus> What version (of PS)?
[01:18] <pjotter> 6
[01:19] <pjotter> my old, but legal copy :)
[01:19] <Kartibok> pjotter: why don't you try GIMP?
[01:19] <jack> hi
[01:19] <pjotter> I need CMYK
[01:19] <Maxdamantus> Xnest :1 -ac -name GIMP -geometry 1280x1024 & kwin --display :1 & gimp --display :1
[01:19] <Kartibok> does GIMP not have it?
[01:19] <Maxdamantus> ^^ ftw
[01:19] <pjotter> Gimp doesn't have that (yet)
[01:20] <Maxdamantus> CMYK?
[01:20] <Kartibok> ahh
[01:20] <pjotter> But I tried Gimp and it looks very nice
[01:20] <phlawless> kartibok thanks for the link
[01:20] <Maruko> who can help me install Compiz/Beryl???
[01:20] <pjotter> It's a graphics mode, like RGB
[01:20] <phlawless> looks straight forward
[01:20] <Kartibok> phlawless: No probs I did exactly as it said and it works fine
[01:20] <pjotter> RGB is for computerscreens etc.. CMYK is for print
[01:20] <phlawless> do u ahve a link like that for kubuntu and linuxmce 1.1 beta 2 install
[01:20] <phlawless> i new to linux
[01:21] <phlawless> just install kubuntu on my home theatre pc
[01:21] <pjotter> I need CMYK because most printers demand CMYK files
[01:21] <phlawless> so i looking for all the help i can get so i dont go back to windows LOL
[01:22] <Kartibok> I don't have links for them but if you google you should find them. I followed the instructions and now I have video dvd and all the good stuff!
[01:22] <Maxdamantus> Lol. Metacity is the WM for GNOME right?
[01:22] <Maxdamantus> Just ran metacity --replace
[01:23] <Maxdamantus> Yuckky gnome.
[01:23] <phlawless> kartibok pm
[01:23] <pjotter> say, do I need a firewall when using Linux?
[01:23] <Kartibok> phlawless: what does that mean?
[01:24] <Ashex> pjotter, not really
[01:24] <Ashex> if you really think you need one, just buy a router
[01:25] <phlawless> kartibok ur beast
[01:25] <pjotter> I installed firestarter.. but it blocked all traffic..so I uninstalled it. The bugger keeps asking for the root password everytime I reboot
[01:25] <phlawless> instructions work like a charm
[01:25] <phlawless> rock on for the fast help
[01:25] <Kartibok>  /msg nickserv identify wettegryf
[01:25] <Ashex> pjotter, firewalls are meant to keep traffic from going out and coming in unless you allow
[01:26] <Kartibok> lol that failed then
[01:26] <Ashex> with ubuntu, you don't need to worry about the traffic that goes out
[01:26] <Maxdamantus> Lol. This is fun.
[01:26] <Maxdamantus> Just went onto GNOME, and ran kwin
[01:26] <Ashex> since everything you will be running is from the repos. Coming in, due to restrictions, you shouldn't need to worry about that
[01:26] <Ashex> however if you think you need protection from outside threats, get a router, as it is much easier to do and less of a hassle
[01:27] <pjotter> Yes, I heared that Linux is a pretty secure system
[01:27] <pjotter> No virusscanner needed too?
[01:27] <Ashex> nope
[01:27] <Maxdamantus> gnome looks better with xfwm4
[01:27] <Ashex> in order for a virus to do anything, it has to run as root
[01:28] <pjotter> I use antivir on my ms-pc.It's a free virsusscanner taht does a very good job
[01:28] <ahmed> how to disable shift backspace ,, it always logs me off and i press it by mistake ... plz helkp
[01:28] <Ashex> as do i, i don't use windows very often (once every few months when the CS hits me).
[01:28] <Loco_Man> can anyone help me?... I'm having a weird problem with kubuntu... it connects to the network when it boots, then a minute or two later it just stops working...
[01:28] <Ashex> but it's only because when in windows, you need one
[01:29] <pedro__> boa noite pessoal
[01:29] <BluesKaj> yup routers rock
[01:29] <Ashex> ahmed, control center> keyboard
[01:29] <pjotter> So I don;t need a virusscanner in Linux?
[01:29] <adaptr> you can use one if you like
[01:29] <Ashex> pjotter, nope
[01:29] <Ashex> you can get clamwin if you like
[01:30] <pjotter> I'll try find a free one
[01:30] <adaptr> no need - aptitude install clamav
[01:30] <Ashex> however, pretty much all anti-virus vendors will tell you there is no need for an anti-virus in linux
[01:30] <ahmed> how to install beryl ati card using xgl,, any one have a link to this guide ???
[01:30] <adaptr> !beryl
[01:30] <Ashex> !beryl | ahmed
[01:30] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:30] <ubotu> ahmed: please see above
[01:30] <BluesKaj> pjotter, very unlikely ...been on kubuntu for 9mos, no need for av scanners
[01:31] <adaptr> pjotter how does one normally acquire a virus ?
[01:31] <pjotter> by using a ms pc, I guess?
[01:31] <adaptr> pjotter there are only a very limited set of situations
[01:32] <adaptr> you get a virus from either a web site that exploits IE and its various leaks, through e-mail that exploits OE and its many leaks, or warez software that runs on WIndows
[01:32] <conor> !firefox
[01:32] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[01:32] <BluesKaj> viruses written for windows systems can't run onlinux,and the linux architecture doesn't allow for .exe files to run without root permissions
[01:32] <adaptr> none of those work on Linux, and I've just covered 99.999999% of all viruses
[01:34] <Loco_Man> any idea what might be wrong with my network?... it works for a minute or two whe I boot... then it just stops working...
[01:34] <BluesKaj> linux isn't windows II .., takes windows users a while to understand that
[01:34] <pjotter> I just downloaded a virsuscanner.It is a tar.gz file
[01:34] <pjotter> I haven't got the faintest idea what to do with it. How do I install it?
[01:35] <Maxdamantus> pjotter,
[01:35] <Maxdamantus> Open a terminal.
[01:35] <pjotter> ok
[01:35] <Maxdamantus> And cd to the location it's in.
[01:35] <BluesKaj> pjotter, in the terminal : tar -xvzf filname.tar.gz
[01:35] <pjotter> just a moment
[01:36] <pjotter> alright I'm in Desktop (whre the file is)
[01:37] <Maxdamantus> tar -xf <filename>
[01:37] <Maxdamantus> Where <filename> is the file.
[01:37] <Maxdamantus> (Or the first few letters with a * to show wildcard.
[01:38] <pjotter> it worked
[01:38] <pjotter> it created a directory with the same name
[01:38] <pjotter> ls
[01:38] <pjotter> (sorry)
[01:38] <pjotter> :)
[01:38] <Maxdamantus> Then go into the directory, can use a GUI fm if you want.
[01:39] <Maxdamantus> And see if there are instructions.
[01:39] <Maxdamantus> (Usually called "INSTALL"
[01:39] <Maxdamantus> )
[01:39] <Mongey> ok
[01:39] <Mongey> i need a bit of help
[01:39] <Mongey> My internet is extremly slow on kubuntu
[01:39] <Maxdamantus> Mongey, ask your questions first. :P
[01:39] <pjotter> yes there is an Install script
[01:39] <Mongey> i can download pakages fast enough 125 kb/s
[01:39] <Maxdamantus> pjotter, any "config" or "configure" script?
[01:40] <Mongey> ive tries konquer and FF and bout are slow
[01:40] <pjotter> nope.. license, readme, install and an .installrc
[01:40] <Maxdamantus> Ok, in the terminal, run "./install"
[01:41] <clever> often INSTALL is the name of a text file explaining how to install
[01:41] <Mongey> any ideas ?
[01:41] <pjotter> it's doing stuff... :)
[01:42] <clever> 'less install'
[01:42] <clever> or 'less INSTALL' depending on what its actualy called
[01:42] <pjotter> no its definately installing something
[01:42] <clever> ahh
[01:43] <Maxdamantus> Lol. I'm trying all the wms I can find.. Fluxbox looks odd.
[01:43] <Maxdamantus> Darn flash looking logos with crappy products.
[01:43] <pjotter> its' asking a lot of hard questions too which I answer with " yes" (mostly)
[01:44] <Maxdamantus> Yea, that's normal.
[01:45] <pjotter> it's busy installing gui-stuff
[01:45] <ubuntu> there is a server french ?
[01:45] <pjotter> it is done
[01:45] <pjotter> antivir
[01:46] <ubuntu> there is a server french ?
[01:46] <ubuntu> pleai
[01:46] <morla> hello
[01:46] <ubuntu> hello
[01:46] <morla> are you bot or human?
[01:46] <ubuntu> there is a french server ?
[01:47] <pjotter> now comes the tricky part.. how do I actually strat the installed program?
[01:47] <pjotter> start
[01:47] <ubuntu> human
[01:47] <ubuntu> what ?
[01:47] <morla> hi then :)
[01:47] <Mongey> ok
[01:47] <Kartibok> Good night all
[01:47] <Mongey> how do i disable ipV6 in kubuntu
[01:47] <pjotter> thanx a lot for the help Maxdamantus!
[01:48] <morla> I cannot burn with k3b in feisty.. no drives found. Can somebody give me a hand please?
[01:48] <Maxdamantus> Woah.. This is the weirdest one yet.
[01:48] <Maxdamantus> WM to emulate the Windows 95 feel. :S
[01:48] <Maxdamantus> Lol. Everything is in a Window.
[01:48] <Maxdamantus> Even Kdesktop is in a Window.
[01:49] <pjotter> any Ideas where the freshly installed program went?
[01:49] <pjotter> it's not on the desktop..it's not in the startmenu...
[01:49] <ubuntu> http://www.google.com/intl/fr/
[01:49] <Maxdamantus> pjotter, check the directory where you ran install
[01:51] <Mongey> how do i disable ipV6 in kubuntu?
[01:51] <ardchoille> !ipv6
[01:51] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:51] <Mongey> this is gonna take a while to load...
[01:51] <Mongey> lol
[01:52] <pjotter> I'll try rebooting
[01:52] <ardchoille> irony++
[01:52] <pjotter> bye and thax!
[01:52] <ardchoille> pjotter: wait
[01:52] <pjotter> ok
[01:52] <Maxdamantus> pjotter, wait.
[01:52] <ardchoille> pjotter: What are you trying to do?
[01:52] <Maxdamantus> Linux barely ever needs reboots.
[01:52] <Maxdamantus> That's the art of it. :)
[01:52] <Maxdamantus> Check the directory where install is.
[01:52] <pjotter> I dont; know.. I installed the antivirus program .. but somehow it doesn;t run
[01:52] <Maxdamantus> Should've created some binary file.
[01:53] <pjotter> I'll check
[01:53] <pjotter> what do Ilook for?
[01:53] <Maxdamantus> Anything that wasn't there before.
[01:53] <pjotter> I't pretty much the same
[01:53] <ardchoille> pjotter: Go to the dir where the source code is and read the Make file, it tells the system where to install things.
[01:53] <pjotter> there is a file hbedv.key
[01:54] <Maxdamantus> If you "ls" in the directory, it colour codes files.
[01:54] <Maxdamantus> Green is executable.
[01:54] <pjotter> ok
[01:54] <slackgen> hi. i used ubuntu-desktop and i turned roaming profile off for my wireless. Now in kubuntu I want to use knetworkmanager. But i uninstalled the gnome tools. How do i reenable roaming?
[01:54] <pjotter> just the install is green
[01:54] <pjotter> there is bin dir
[01:54] <pjotter> with a green file
[01:55] <Maxdamantus> Ok, run it in the terminal
[01:55] <Maxdamantus> ./filename
[01:55] <Maxdamantus> Where filename is whatever it is.
[01:55] <ardchoille> pjotter: Which app did you install?
[01:55] <pjotter> antivir
[01:55] <pjotter> www.free-av.com
[01:55] <ardchoille> pjotter: Try typing in a term: which antivir
[01:56] <ardchoille> That may give you the path to the binary
[01:56] <Maxdamantus> And if you want to make a symlink to it, so you can just run something like "antivirus", "sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/antivirus filename"
[01:56] <pjotter> usr/bin/antivir
[01:56] <Maxdamantus> Run "antivir" then
[01:56] <ardchoille> pjotter: Ok, now you have the path to the binary and can use that to make a menu item
[01:58] <pjotter> But it's just a terminal programm..I mean.. it is supposed to be a gui thing
[01:59] <Maxdamantus> Yea, you can run GUI programs from the terminal.
[02:00] <phlawless> hey guys
[02:00] <Maxdamantus> I like checking if things work by running from the terminal first.
[02:00] <phlawless> i got linuxmce on a cd
[02:00] <phlawless> and its mounted
[02:00] <Maxdamantus> Then I can see errors if it mucks up.
[02:00] <phlawless> how-to says there should be a linuxmce file on cd but there aer nono
[02:01] <phlawless> only thing i see is install.sh cache.list
[02:01] <phlawless> and getpackages.sh
[02:01] <phlawless> will any of those help me install app
[02:03] <phlawless> any ideas on how to installl
[02:03] <BluesKaj> downloading stuff to the desktop should be avoided ../home is where it's at :)
[02:05] <BluesKaj> the terminal assumes your apps reside in /home after downloading , unless of course one uses synaptic adept apt or aptitude
[02:05] <rkitect> /list
[02:06] <rkitect> crap
[02:07] <pjotter> does anybody know what Dazuko is?
[02:07] <rkitect> anyone willing to help with a first time KDE setup?
[02:07] <benbread> i'm doing an edgy to fiesty upgrade - but i'm getting errors getting packages from edgy main and universe - error 302 found - why would they be erroring if the files _can_ be found? :|
[02:07] <BluesKaj> ls a person ?
[02:09] <BluesKaj> benbread, did you update your sources.list file first to feisty where edgy used to be in the debs
[02:10] <phlawless> anyone will to help with linuxmce install
[02:11] <BluesKaj> the HT version?
[02:12] <benbread> BluesKaj: All i've done is run the dist upgrade tool through adept
[02:13] <sc0tch> Is there a network manager process I can stop that will prevent kubuntu from bringing up my wireless card and scanning for 'any', no matter what I do it keeps restarting it scanning after taking down the interface.
[02:13] <BluesKaj> yes, benbread but you still need to upgrade your sources list to feisty first
[02:14] <benbread> BluesKaj: Is there an automated way to do that?
[02:15] <Maxdamantus> Afterstep seems.. Interesting.
[02:16] <pjotter> what "kernel"  does kubuntu have?
[02:17] <Maxdamantus> Ubuntu.
[02:17] <ardchoille> pjotter: 2.6.20-15-generic here on Kubuntu Feisty
[02:17] <BluesKaj> benbread, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:17] <Maxdamantus> ardchoille, it's not generic.
[02:17] <Maxdamantus> It has modifications.
[02:18] <pjotter> alright... I must first install a program called dazuko
[02:18] <ardchoille> Maxdamantus: I was simply stating what uname -r returns :)
[02:18] <pjotter> I'mtrying to install it right now, but it'smore difficult... it needs to be build first
[02:18] <benbread> BluesKaj: Heh, i was half-way there :P
[02:18] <benbread> Thanks
[02:19] <BluesKaj> benbread, i suggest you check out this page...very informative and useful : http://douglasfshearer.com/blog/command-line-upgrade-to-ubunty-feisty-fawn-704
[02:20] <BluesKaj>  np :)
[02:20] <benbread> BluesKaj: Thanks
[02:20] <BluesKaj> I have it bookmarked for reference
[02:21] <jack> new try: what do i need to do to get remote x11 connections to work? i got kubuntu-feisty runnig, but i need that box only as a remote x11 terminal
[02:21] <pjotter> Well, I've learned quite a bit for today.Think I call it quits and get some sleep
[02:21] <pjotter> thaks for all the help!
[02:22] <pjotter> thanks
[02:22] <jack> what do i need to do besides removing -nolisten tcp...
[02:22] <jack> port 6000 is open, i can telnet in, but only locally
[02:22] <jack> not from anything else on the lan
[02:23] <jack> now what? there's no iptables running, and netstat says it listens to *
[02:25] <UKESN|Javax> nn folks
[02:26] <phlawless> any good hearted solo got time to help someone install linuxmce
[02:27] <jack> new try: what do i need to do to get remote x11 connections to work? i got kubuntu-feisty runnig, but i need that box only as a remote x11 terminal
[02:28] <jack> port 6000 is open, i can telnet in, but only locally, not from anywhere else on the lan
[02:28] <jack> anything else than xhost + ?
[02:28] <ahmed> guys please help... google earth freezes at initializing
[02:29] <mwiebelhaus> anybody here?
[02:29] <jack> apparently not
[02:30] <mwiebelhaus> can you help me
[02:30] <jack> or my stupid x11 question is too ancient for *
[02:30] <jack> if you ask your damn question, maybe
[02:30] <ahmed> guys please help... google earth freezes at initializing
[02:30] <jack> if you want general help, $100 in advance please
[02:30] <mwiebelhaus> do you know how to make my screen display 1440x900
[02:30] <jack> and dont expect to help anyone with proprietary software stuff ahmed
[02:31] <jack> google earth isnt free, go whine at google
[02:31] <jack> mwiebelhaus: sounds like you want to reconf xorg
[02:31] <mwiebelhaus> im not sure what i want to do iim new at linux
[02:31] <jack> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, i bet
[02:32] <benbread> BluesKaj: I've replaced all occurances of edgy with feisty, but it's still failing on 302 found errors
[02:33] <benbread> I think i'll do it without the tool
[02:35] <mwiebelhaus> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:35] <mwiebelhaus> i tried that
[02:35] <mwiebelhaus> then it told me to do something in a fiel
[02:36] <mwiebelhaus> file
[02:42] <oldwest> Hi - Anyone know of way to take screen capture when your K Menu is open? When I try and do screen cap. - menu collapse's or can't see anymore.....
[02:43] <ooo000-gwemo> I think gimp will do a screen cap but it has been a while since i tried and an working on a new install right now
[02:43] <oldwest> Did another install of newer version of kunbuntu and want to see what is installed when configuring new install.
[02:44] <oldwest> When k-menu is open and you press key command the k-menu goes away idea's?
[02:46] <aldin> how to change password on freenode?
[02:46] <crimsun> /msg nickserv help set
[02:49] <oldwest> never mind figured out using rt/clk on k-meu then put menu editor on screen which stay then use gimp for capture
[02:49] <coreymon77> guys
[02:50] <coreymon77> i want a partition to be mounted automatically on startup and be able to be viewed and written to without having to be root
[02:50] <coreymon77> how do i do that?
[02:51] <Maxdamantus> coreymon77, open /etc/fstab
[02:51] <coreymon77> already open as root
[02:51] <Maxdamantus> What's the partition called?
[02:51] <coreymon77> i had to edit it to get the partition to mount in the first place
[02:51] <Maxdamantus> (sda* or whatever)
[02:51] <coreymon77> sda5
[02:52] <coreymon77> label: storage
[02:52] <Maxdamantus> /dev/sda5 /some/place ext3 nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[02:52] <Maxdamantus> Or change ext3 if it's a different fs type.
[02:52] <coreymon77> Maxdamantus: i just have it on auto
[02:53] <Maxdamantus> Use the settings I said.
[02:53] <Maxdamantus> Otherwise it gives permissions only to root.
[02:53] <coreymon77> i have the fs on auto
[02:53] <Maxdamantus> Oh.
[02:53] <Maxdamantus> What fs is it though?
[02:54] <Maxdamantus> Best to have the proper fs, unless it's the floppy or cdrom drive, where you can have different filesystems.
[02:55] <coreymon77> Maxdamantus: fat32
[02:55] <coreymon77> its a shared win-lin storage drive
[02:55] <Maxdamantus> /dev/sda5 /some/place vfat nouser,defaults,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[02:55] <Maxdamantus> You should use ext3 if shared.
[02:55] <Maxdamantus> You can get the driver to use it on Windows.
[02:56] <coreymon77> meh
[02:56] <coreymon77> this works
[02:56] <Maxdamantus> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[02:56] <Maxdamantus> Easy to use.
[02:56] <Maxdamantus> And doesn't have the restrictions of FAT32.
[02:56] <coreymon77> the drive already has stuff on it
[02:57] <coreymon77> cant be changing the fs now
[02:57] <Maxdamantus> Oh, right.
[02:57] <Maxdamantus> Well use the one I last said.
[02:57] <Maxdamantus> Should let non-root users write to it.
[02:57] <phlawless> anyone here using linuxmce
[02:58] <coreymon77> Maxdamantus: thanks, it works now
[02:59] <Maxdamantus> Np.
[03:03] <coreymon77> Maxdamantus: wait a sec
[03:03] <coreymon77> Maxdamantus: i still cant write to it as a user
[03:04] <coreymon77> Maxdamantus: root is still the owner, and only root can mount it
[03:04] <coreymon77> Maxdamantus: i can see it as a user, but not write
[03:08] <Daisuke_Ido> so chown it
[03:08] <don> hello
[03:09] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: you talking to me?
[03:10] <coreymon77> Daisuke_Ido: and if so, what do you mean?
[03:11] <LjL> ubotwo part
[03:12] <coreymon77> who is ubotwo
[03:12] <LjL> a bot
[03:13] <talius31> hi there
[03:14] <don> he is a computerbot
[03:15] <xGrantx> does anyone here use "recordmydesktop"?
[03:15] <don> he is all knowing
[03:16] <talius31> is anybody know something about this kcontrol problem: i've all mine kcontrol modules in the k-menu/found objects, and there's only the peripherals menu in kcontrol.
[03:18] <Solifugus> To get beryl working, what do you need to do?
[03:19] <talius31> Solifugus: firstly u've to well configure yout graphic card, have you the 3d accelaration works well?
[03:20] <xGrantx> Solifugus: did you install gfx card drivers?
[03:20] <Solifugus> yes... nvidia drivers is always the first thing i setup
[03:20] <Solifugus> so i can play games
[03:20] <xGrantx> ok
[03:20] <jack> is there any firewall-ish thing enabled by default on kubuntu (feisty)? xorg is listening, but i can't even telnet in
[03:21] <talius31> have you enabled the composite options in your xorg.conf?
[03:22] <xGrantx> Solifugus: what is the problem that you are having with it?
[03:23] <phlawless> pretty pretty please assist with linuxmce install
[03:24] <Solifugus> xGrantx: I don't know yet... but I started installation of kubuntu beryl... I hope its just obvious from there..
[03:24] <xGrantx> oh ok
[03:24] <talius31> Solifugus: have you enabled the composite options in your xorg.conf?
[03:24] <phlawless> solifugu u can find beryl quick install here
[03:24] <phlawless> http://linuxondesktop.blogspot.com/2007/05/13-must-do-things-on-new-ubuntu-704.html
[03:25] <phlawless> took me 2 sec to install and i am fresh off the street when it comes with linux
[03:26] <xGrantx> you might have an issue with window borders not displaying
[03:26] <xGrantx> Beryl has the fix to that on it's website
[03:27] <talius31> xGrantx: personnaly i've no problem with beryl _ or maybe you are always talking to Solifugus
[03:27] <xGrantx> well I had an issue with window borders
[03:28] <xGrantx> I just had to change a value in my xorg.conf
[03:28] <phlawless> i guess no one likes linuxmce hehe
[03:28] <talius31> ha ok, i'm french and they said to enabled it in the howto i've read *-)
[03:29] <xGrantx> heh
[03:29] <xGrantx> Beryl + Kiba-Dock makes for an awsome desktop environment
[03:29] <cris> hey how do i get root access on ubuntu, it wont let me install certain programs
[03:29] <cris> says i dont have access
[03:30] <xGrantx> sudo passwd
[03:30] <cris> ?
[03:30] <xGrantx> type that into your terminal to set a root password
[03:30] <talius31> xGrantx: is Kiba-Dock is like the mac docker? i've tried kxdocker but it doesn't work well, so i'm waiting for the realease of its fork: xqde
[03:31] <Solifugus> I installed beryl for kubuntu, rebooted and nothing looks any different... no lsd effects.
[03:31] <talius31> Solifugus: run beryl-manager
[03:31] <xGrantx> talius31: yea it is, but it has a physics engine and some other goodies
[03:31] <cris> all that did was update my password
[03:31] <talius31> Solifugus: and run beryl by clikng the gem icon in bottom right of ur screen
[03:32] <cris> xGrantx: did i need to create a root login? i assumed it already had it
[03:32] <cris> lol
[03:32] <talius31> xGrantx: ho great, i'll try it now :p is it in common repositories, or i've to compiled it?
[03:32] <xGrantx> cris: by default there is no root password
[03:33] <Solifugus> talius31: ok.. i c options, but where is the switch to turn it on?
[03:33] <cris> lemem check
[03:33] <xGrantx> talius31: there is a repository
[03:33] <talius31> Solifugus: it's something like "select the windows manager" and then select beryl instead of kwin
[03:34] <cris> xGrantx: wont let me login from login screen
[03:34] <cris> do i have to logout beforei  login, or do i login thru terminal?
[03:34] <talius31> xGrantx: cool i'll seek it right now, i've always loved mac style *-)
[03:34] <xGrantx> cris: you can login to root in your own account
[03:34] <xGrantx> cris: just type "su" in the terminal
[03:35] <xGrantx> talius: www.kiba-dock.org
[03:35] <dregorth> anyone know if the forums are down?
[03:36] <talius31> xGrantx: thx, i was looking at some strange howto in ubuntu-fr forums :s i prefer to download it directly from official site
[03:37] <Solifugus> talius31: Do you mean in a start-button menu or in the beryl options manager?  I have not found it yet
[03:38] <talius31> Solifugus: in the beryl-manager menu, are you seiing the red gem icon?
[03:39] <xGrantx> the red gem would be in the taskbar
[03:39] <Solifugus> talius31: yes.. it has a red diamond kind of thing.
[03:40] <xGrantx> right click it
[03:40] <xGrantx> then "Select Window Manager"
[03:40] <xGrantx> Beryl
[03:40] <talius31> Solifugus: yeah then right click it and overlight the "select the windows manager" (or something like this, i've not the english version) ans select beryl
[03:40] <dregorth> does anyone know if the forums are down?
[03:41] <cris> xGrantx:  thanks brotha
[03:41] <xGrantx> cris: np
[03:41] <cris> but hey question
[03:41] <cris> i have a question thats a little more important
[03:41] <xGrantx> ok
[03:41] <Solifugus> talius31: the beryl manager has three such icons.. right-clicking none of them gives me a menu.
[03:42] <dregorth> anyone?
[03:42] <cris> xGrantx: i put the live CD in my vista laptop its brandnew. after that, i decided to partition it and install ubuntu as well. it practically froze while this was going on, as it took literally overnight and was still frozen. so i decided to cancel the install of ubuntu, then restart the comp w/the disk removed so vista would load. ive already checked the boot priority, yet vista will not load
[03:42] <cris> xGrantx: it sits there on the load screen with the load bar and doesnt go any further. and i tried the live CD again and it ran, then i tried installing and it straight up said couldnt access filesystem
[03:43] <talius31> sorry guys, i'm in gutsy release, then i've been disconnected
[03:43] <cris> xGrantx: so my initial question is, what the fuck happened lol
[03:43] <xGrantx> cris: were you installing feisty?
[03:43] <noiesmo> !language | cris
[03:44] <cris> xGrantx: not sure. i have a free diskv6.06.1LTS
[03:44] <cris> noiesmo: sorry
[03:45] <noiesmo> cris, np :)
[03:45] <cris> its my girls laptop and she is pissed at me
[03:45] <cris> and im like wtf
[03:45] <cris> lol
[03:45] <xGrantx> cris: so you can't install ubuntu at all?
[03:46] <talius31> Solifugus: is it works well now?
[03:46] <cris> xGrantx: well, i could im sure if i wiped it, but the vista came preinstalled so i dont have disk. but there are files i need to access on that computer before i do anything... i dont wnaan install ubuntu on it anymore i just want my vista to load again and ive tried everything-- it even freezes going to safe mode or repair mode
[03:47] <xGrantx> well, some of the vista files must have been overwritten somehow
[03:47] <xGrantx> you could put that HD into an inclosure and get data off it that way
[03:48] <cris> well first
[03:48] <cris> its a laptop
[03:48] <cris> i dont wnan remvoe hd
[03:49] <xGrantx> you can't access your HD with a live CD?
[03:49] <cris> well
[03:49] <cris> i put the liv CD in
[03:49] <cris> how do ia ccess my winodws files via the cd
[03:49] <cris> couldnt figure it out
[03:50] <talius31> cris: maybe u've to mount the disk
[03:50] <cris> :\
[03:50] <cris> lol
[03:50] <xGrantx> well, for some reason I couldn't access my HD with the ubuntu live disk, but
[03:50] <ubotu> cris: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:50] <xGrantx> with other live distros I could
[03:51] <xGrantx> like SLAX
[03:51] <cris> what did i say
[03:51] <cris> ubotu: i didnt say anything
[03:51] <talius31> cris: try with a knoppix, this is a well live ditrib and i've never met problems to mount ntfs disks
[03:52] <cris> and i assume i need to get microsoft to send me a vista restore disk huh
[03:52] <cris> lol
[03:52] <xGrantx> why didn't you get a vista disk?
[03:53] <xGrantx> because you could run the repair
[03:53] <jack> guys, is there any way in kubuntu to allow remote x11 connections? i gnome there is, under "login window preferences"
[03:54] <talius31> xGrantx: it's a laptop if i've well understand, and they rarely give the cd, they're only made an hidden partition with restauration tools
[03:54] <jack> *in
[03:54] <xGrantx> meh, well they should
[03:54] <talius31> jack: personnaly i use krdc (but it's to share the whole desktop, is it what u're talking about?
[03:55] <jack> talius31: no, i need plain ancient x11 connectivity (port 6000)
[03:55] <jack> X is listening now, i managed to get it to (kdmrc)
[03:55] <talius31> jack: ha ok, so i can't help you :/ sorry
[03:55] <jack> but i cant reach it from 192.168.1.*, only from lo0
[03:55] <jack> ok :x
[03:57] <cris> is knoppix in english
[03:57] <cris> lol
[03:57] <jack> german, and its not related to kubuntu
[03:57] <cris> should i, and how do i upgrade to 7.04 ubuntu
[03:57] <jack> of course you can run it in english too
[03:57] <jack> you dont
[03:57] <cris> i just need to access my files on my laptop in which the ubuntu installer messed it up
[03:58] <jack> you reformat and install ubuntu
[03:58] <cris> is there a major diffrence in the two?
[03:58] <jack> yeah, different repos
[03:58] <cris> repos?
[03:58] <talius31> cris: yaeh you can run sknoppix in english, personnaly i use a french fork of this live distrib, kaella knoppix, but u can also run it in english,
[03:58] <jack> you're very likely to run into wicked dep troubles if you switch
[03:59] <jack> cris: software repositories
[03:59] <cris> oh ok
[03:59] <cris> well i jsut hope i can get the files off this laptop i dont understand why it screwed up
[03:59] <jack> a couple small but very basic things are slightly different between the 2
[03:59] <cris> on the partitioning that is
[04:00] <jack> files arent a problem
[04:00] <cris>  qyeah i know
[04:00] <cris> but the prob is im not gonna have it the way it was nad its my girlfriends laptop
[04:00] <jack> just boot from something else, a knoppix cd/dvd, ubuntu, kanotix, whatever you want
[04:00] <cris> ok well how do i access the files on ubuntu live cd
[04:01] <jack> just mount the disk
[04:01] <jack> and copy the stuff somewhere over the net
[04:01] <jack> easiest way
[04:01] <cris> yweah but
[04:01] <cris> its laptop and when i stick disk in
[04:01] <cris> it doesnt letm e view files
[04:01] <jack> stick disk in?
[04:01] <jack> you sure you mounted it already?
[04:01] <talius31> cris: it's not a problem for viewing, u've to boot from the cd-rom
[04:01] <cris> the ubuntu live CD
[04:02] <_apisq> when I go to gmail, it says the encodeing is partially lost, what happened to it?
[04:02] <cris> yeas i understand
[04:02] <jack> lol yeah, boot it ;)
[04:02] <cris> when i run live CD and boot ubuntu
[04:02] <jack> it's cloop-crunched
[04:02] <cris> how do i access my files
[04:02] <jack> mount the disk(s)
[04:02] <jack> doe
[04:02] <jack> *done
[04:02] <talius31> cris:when u're in the live-cd environment, you've to mount your ntfs partition in a mount point, then save your files away
[04:03] <cris> im sorry but i dont understand lol
[04:03] <jack> your hd is not visible until you mount it
[04:04] <jack> when you managed to mount it, copy your files away
[04:04] <cris> lemme look real quick
[04:04] <talius31> cris: when u're on your live cd desktop, lauch a console, and type in su mode: mount /dev/yourNtfsDevice /yourMountPoint
[04:04] <cris> oh ok
[04:04] <jack> think you could even do it with a gui, from qtparted or so
[04:04] <jack> if typing is too much challenge
[04:04] <cris> lol no
[04:04] <talius31> cris after doing this command u'll be able to acces to your ntfs partition at /yourMountPoint
[04:05] <bartosz> hey can anyone help me wiht couple things? i just installed ubuntu desktop
[04:05] <cris>  lemme load the live thing
[04:05] <bartosz> and i need helping in costumazation
[04:05] <cris> 8u guys help a lot if this works, and i appreciate it a lot
[04:05] <talius31> cris: u're welcome ^^
[04:05] <jack> np
[04:05] <cris> im sure others, if not you already, want my noob butt outta here lol
[04:05] <jack> wish my question was as simple :)
[04:06] <bartosz> i am tyring first of all to do the dyndns
[04:06] <bartosz> i went on the ubuntu tutorial on wikipidia
[04:06] <jack> the? there are thousands of dyndns services...
[04:06] <cris> lol
[04:06] <bartosz> sorry
[04:06] <cris> millions more like
[04:06] <bartosz> umm dyndns.com
[04:06] <talius31> bartosz: personnaly i'm using a cool dyndns program to update mine
[04:06] <jack> thousands of good ones, cris :)
[04:06] <jack> never count the crap
[04:07] <talius31> bartosz: inadyn ; it's in default repositories
[04:07] <bartosz> what does that mean?
[04:08] <talius31> bartosz: you've to install inadyn by tipyng something like sudo aptitude inadyn (have you modified you /etc/apt/sources;list to enlarge your repositories?
[04:08] <bartosz> sudo apt-get install ipcheck
[04:08] <bartosz> gksudo gedit /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/dyndns_update
[04:09] <bartosz> thats what i have done
[04:09] <bartosz> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[04:10] <cris_> oops
[04:10] <cris_> hey talius31
[04:10] <cris_> it says unknown id: mode:
[04:10] <bartosz> this is where i got the instructions under how to assign hostname
[04:10] <talius31> cris_: what command have you exactly typed?
[04:10] <cris_> su mode: mount /dev/hda1 /hda1
[04:11] <talius31> bartosz: personnaly i'm using the inadyn software, it's really easier, u've to lauch it by typing : inadyn -u username -p password -a urDomainName
[04:12] <talius31> cris_: is the /hda1 directory exist?
[04:12] <cris_> in gparted
[04:12] <cris_> it says my 2 partiions are
[04:12] <cris_> /dev/hda1
[04:12] <cris_> and /dev/hda2
[04:12] <cris_> hda2 being my larger one
[04:13] <bartosz> thank you
[04:13] <cris_> "Unknown id: mode:"
[04:13] <talius31> cris_: surely /hda1 is the restoration partition, and /hda2 is the ones with vista installation, try to mount /hda2 if u've files to keep from your documents_and_settings folder
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[04:13] <cris_> yeah i tried the hda2 as well
[04:13] <talius31> bartosz: u're welcome ^^
[04:14] <felzix> did... did we just get spammed?
[04:14] <talius31> cris_: and could copy me the entire error message please?
[04:14] <cris_> i did
[04:14] <cris_> wait how do i login as root again?
[04:14] <talius31> cris_: su
[04:15] <cris_> how do i set password again
[04:15] <cris_> sudo passwd
[04:15] <cris_> ?
[04:15] <billy_> hi. I am trying to install kubuntu on my desktop computer. I tried to set the display to use a dual monitor configuration, and now my window manager won't come up at all. all I get is a command prompt.  is there any way to debug/fix this?
[04:15] <jack> sudo su -
[04:15] <jack> passwd
[04:15] <jack> doe
[04:15] <talius31> cris_: yeah u can do this, but it's for ubuntu based live cd, aren't u on a knoppix ones?
[04:15] <cris_> i logged in as root
[04:15] <cris_> no im on ubuntu olive cd
[04:15] <talius31> cris_: ok sorry ^^
[04:15] <cris_> gives me same error
[04:16] <cris_> lol np its my fault most likely
[04:16] <bartosz> talius31: so.... the now i can connect to my computer through ssh ?
[04:16] <bartosz> using my dns name?
[04:16] <cris_> bartosz:  if ur dns points to ur ip ya
[04:17] <BluesKaj> billy , type :  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:17] <talius31> bartosz: yeah, aren't u under a router or some firewall?
[04:17] <talius31> cris_: humm i don't know this "Unknown id: mode:" error *-)
[04:17] <cris_> so even in ubuntu, i use that same command?
[04:17] <bartosz> damn
[04:17] <bartosz> i am under a routher
[04:17] <felzix> um, to use root privileges with ubuntu, type sudo
[04:18] <bartosz> probobly much more work right?
[04:18] <bartosz> haha
[04:18] <felzix> for su-like function, do sudo -i
[04:18] <cris_> i tried this
[04:18] <talius31> cris_: yeah the mount command is the same
[04:18] <billy_> ok, trying that, thanks
[04:18] <cris_> i tried mount /dev/hda2 /hda2
[04:18] <cris_> it says "mount: mount point /hda2 does not exist"
[04:18] <cris_> thats bs cuz it does exist
[04:18] <talius31> bartosz: u've to open ssh port on youtr router and redirect it to the ip that u've just dyndnsed
[04:18] <cris_> do i need to create a point?
[04:19] <bartosz> what is the ssh port? defult on linux?
[04:19] <talius31> cris_: it's /dev/hda2 and you have to create a directory in order to mount it
[04:19] <bartosz> and is the ip of my reciver or the isp ip
[04:19] <talius31> bartosz: heuuu 22 i think but i'm not sure, google it ^^
[04:20] <talius31> cris_: create a directory like: sudo mkdir /hda2
[04:20] <talius31> cris_: then now the: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /hda2 will normaly works well
[04:21] <cris_> ok i did that
[04:21] <cris_> now
[04:21] <cris_> it moiuntd
[04:21] <cris_> but
[04:21] <cris_> i open folder saus i dont have access
[04:21] <bartosz> how do i start ssh? ..
[04:21] <bartosz> sorry i am seriously a noob if it comes to linux
[04:21] <bartosz> reading these questions makes me wonder sometimes why i even bother to play around with linux
[04:22] <talius31> cris_: sudo chmod -R 777 /hda2 (it will allow read/write for everybody, but only for time session, cause u're in a live cd)
[04:22] <talius31> bartosz: have u installed it? if not: sudo aptitude install ssh
[04:22] <cris_> oh wow
[04:22] <talius31> bartosz: then sudo /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[04:23] <talius31> bartosz: sorry it's : sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart (and not sshd
[04:24] <cris_> talius31: this will most likely work, as im waiting on the chmod to complete, but waht do u recommend me being the easiest way to get my vista back lol
[04:24] <bartosz> sudo: /etc/init.d/ssh: command not found
[04:25] <talius31> cris_: personnaly i recommand u to get off vista :p lol, seriously u can try to boot from the other partition (hda1) it's surely a restauration system in that one
[04:25] <bartosz> Couldn't find package "ss", and more than 40
[04:25] <bartosz> packages contain "ss" in their name.
[04:25] <bartosz> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed
[04:25] <bartosz> thats what it said
[04:26] <talius31> bartosz: have u installed it? i don't understand
[04:27] <bartosz> yes i tried
[04:27] <bartosz> sudo aptitude install ssh
[04:27] <bartosz> and it showed me that it couldn't find the package
[04:27] <talius31> than if you type sudo apt-get install ssh nothing works well?
[04:28] <bartosz> ok i got
[04:28] <talius31> (sorry u've type the good command, it's aptitude and not apt-get, an old bad habbit :s
[04:28] <bartosz> hahaha i got
[04:28] <ShadyTree> !internet explorer
[04:28] <bartosz> now how to i configuer it?
[04:29] <talius31> bartosz: could you gimme the result of: sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list please?
[04:29] <talius31> bartosz: ha cool, so u haven't to gimme me the file i've request earlier
[04:30] <talius31> bartosz: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[04:30] <bartosz> ok i did
[04:30] <bartosz> and when i did
[04:30] <bartosz> the list
[04:30] <ShadyTree> !ie
[04:30] <bartosz> ... its a long list
[04:30] <bartosz> so i dont know where to pass
[04:30] <bartosz> paste it
[04:30] <ShadyTree> Does anyone know how to install IE in Kubuntu
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[04:31] <talius31> bartosz: no u have not to paste it, thank you, it was only 'cause i thought u cannot install ssh
[04:31] <phlawless> cris u there
[04:31] <bartosz> oh yea i got to work
[04:31] <bartosz> but now when i try to restart it
[04:31] <bartosz> it says permission denied
[04:31] <bartosz> could not load host key
[04:31] <talius31> bartosz: then try to connect to your pc from another one (or even in loopback) just typing ssh urDyndnsName
[04:32] <ShadyTree> Does anyone know how to install IE in Kubuntu
[04:32] <jack> apt-get install wine
[04:32] <talius31> bartosz: have u done it in su mode (with sudo in front of the command?
[04:32] <jack> then pray a bit
[04:32] <phlawless> anyone willing to help me install linuxmce
[04:32] <talius31> arg i've lost my cigaret paquet :s
[04:33] <phlawless> or jsut get it to r un
[04:33] <xlinux__> shadytree; why would you want to?
[04:33] <bartosz> umm
[04:33] <bartosz> yea
[04:33] <talius31> phlawless: i'm sorry i even don't know what is linuxmce :s
[04:33] <jack> talius31: port 6000 is open, but i cant telnet in from remote (lan)..i can ping and ssh in though, what could be the stopper..
[04:33] <jack> feeling so clueless :x
[04:33] <soulrider> phlawless: isnt there a linuxmce channel? this is kubuntu related mostly
[04:33] <ShadyTree> xlinux__,  when building a website, I need to see if it's compatible with IE
[04:34] <phlawless> its a linux media center for kubuntu
[04:34] <phlawless> i wish there was
[04:34] <bartosz> ok talius31: i got it working i think would you mind
[04:34] <bartosz> connecting to it .. haha
[04:34] <bartosz> if you can
[04:34] <jack> ShadyTree: if you want to do it 100% right, go buy vmware for linux
[04:34] <ShadyTree> buy?
[04:34] <xlinux__> shadytree; you could install windows as a virtual machine, running it to use IE.
[04:34] <phlawless> www.linuxmce.com
[04:34] <jack> yep, thats commercial software
[04:34] <ShadyTree> eww
[04:35] <bartosz> talius31: kulaga.dyndns.org : )
[04:35] <talius31> jack: hummmm is the port oppened when u type netstat?
[04:35] <jack> yup
[04:35] <jack> listening to *:*
[04:35] <jack> thats what i dont understand :(
[04:35] <talius31> bartosz: so it's works well? cool
[04:35] <bartosz> well i don't know if it works from an outside machine
[04:35] <xlinux__> shadytree; you could use seamless rdp to run IE7 on its own window in linux.. it uses a network connection to send the contents from the VM to Kubuntu
[04:36] <jack> sure xlinux__, thats not a "vm" though :)
[04:36] <phlawless> so anyone around can help me out
[04:36] <talius31> jack: i've a solution but it needs holly water and a lot of faith *-) lol sorry i really don't know what the hell is blocking ur telnet test :s
[04:36] <jack> me neither
[04:36] <talius31> bartosz: try it ^^
[04:36] <jack> damnit ;x
[04:36] <Minataku> Usada (Sun SPARCstation 10) is up and running OPENSTEP 4.2/SPARC \o/
[04:36] <talius31> bartosz: or i'll try if u want?
[04:36] <phlawless> jack u tried vmware for linux?
[04:36] <bartosz> yea i wish you could
[04:36] <carutsu> I'm still amazed how fast X restarts
[04:37] <jack> phlawless: yes, it rocks
[04:37] <ShadyTree> xlinux__, in other words, there's no easy way
[04:37] <phlawless> o
[04:37] <jack> costly but cool
[04:37] <bartosz> talius31:  its kulaga.dyndns.org
[04:37] <xlinux__> jack; yes, seamless is a VM running in the background sending the programs from IE7 to linux
[04:37] <Minataku> Costly? Not at all.
[04:37] <jack> you can use vmware player if you dont want to pay bucks
[04:37] <Minataku> VMWare Server is gratis
[04:37] <jack> xlinux__: ok :) thought you meant a real windoze on another box
[04:37] <Minataku> Server is a full-featured offering
[04:37] <jack> Minataku: but outdated, a bit
[04:37] <talius31> bartosz: yeah it's works well ^^
[04:37] <jack> the gsx thing
[04:38] <xlinux__> shadytree; right.. there is no easy way. Im not sure if firefox has any addons for IE rendering
[04:38] <bartosz> awesome
[04:38] <Minataku> jack: Not at all
[04:38] <bartosz> thank you
[04:38] <Minataku> I think VMWare Server is their testbed
[04:38] <ShadyTree> xlinux__, hm. possibly
[04:38] <bartosz> talius31: do you know of any guide that can help me configuer it?
[04:38] <Minataku> It's bleeding-edge
[04:38] <talius31> bartosz: u're welcome :)
[04:38] <Minataku> Which is probably why it's free ;3
[04:38] <jack> cool, might have changed then Minataku
[04:38] <xlinux__> I know theres IE Tab for windows which uses the IE7 engine inside a firefox tab
[04:38] <jack> but last time i checked, 5.5.something was pretty far ahead of the gsx server
[04:39] <phlawless> cris did u get ur windows vista problem fixed
[04:39] <talius31> guys i'll go to bed, have a good day/night (depends of where u're from ^^) and c u :)
[04:39] <dr_willis> thats a scary thought - ie in a tab.. :)
[04:39] <jack> nie talius31
[04:39] <bartosz> bye
[04:39] <bartosz> nie hahaha
[04:39] <bartosz> porsze cie nie!!!!!!
[04:39] <Minataku> jack: This one doesn't have a name to it
[04:39] <Minataku> It's just "VMWare Server"
[04:39] <bartosz> haha
[04:39] <jack> wow, ok :) might be the current version
[04:39] <bartosz> can anyone help with running a bot? how to make it run in the background?
[04:39] <jack> sounds like they changed their policy
[04:40] <jack> eggdrop & ? :P
[04:40] <Minataku> jack: I think they use the free server one as their testbed app
[04:40] <dr_willis> bartosz,  botcommand &
[04:40] <Minataku> It's bleeding-edge and potentially broken
[04:40] <jack> yeah, pretty cool then Minataku
[04:40] <dr_willis> bartosz,  of course theres dozens of bots and ways to run them
[04:40] <jack> i dont mind bleeding edge stuff :)
[04:40] <Minataku> But yeah, it is cool
[04:40] <Minataku> jack: I'm a Gentoo user, so
[04:40] <Minataku> Same here :3
[04:40] <Minataku> DR_WILLIS
[04:41] <jack> hehe
[04:41] <dr_willis> Minataku, !
[04:41] <Minataku> Amiga Amiga Amiga
[04:41] <Minataku> Where are they XD
[04:41] <dr_willis> Yep. they are in the garrage :)
[04:41] <jack> if kubuntu wouldnt grok this laptop that well, i'd be on gentoo now too
[04:41] <Minataku> Heehee
[04:41] <jack> i bet
[04:41] <xlinux__> shadytree; are you still there???
[04:41] <bartosz> dr_willis: can you help me with running eggdrop?
[04:41] <Minataku> Complete enough to use, right, dr_willis? :D
[04:41] <dr_willis> Minataku,  i got a gpx2 - it has an amiga emulator on it!  portable amiga
[04:41] <ShadyTree> xlinux__, yes
[04:41] <Minataku> dr_willis: Heehee
[04:41] <dr_willis> bartosz,  for eggdrop - i KNOW thers 100+ web sites with docs on that bot.
[04:41] <Minataku> Yeah, but I'm a collector
[04:41] <xlinux__> shadytree; try this: http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[04:41] <ShadyTree> xlinux__, ty
[04:41] <Minataku> I want the real things :D
[04:41] <cris_> hey
[04:42] <jack> dr_willis: xbox+uae is all i need meanwhile
[04:42] <bartosz> i know but how do you run it in the background?
[04:42] <bartosz> does it tell you
[04:42] <dr_willis> Minataku,  been diging out my Modle airplane stuff
[04:42] <Minataku> dr_willis: PM me if you wish to pull it out of the channel
[04:42] <jack> only playing "gravity force 2" anyway
[04:42] <Minataku> I don't have that no PM crap on
[04:42] <dr_willis> bartosz,  if its a command from the shell  - bash 101 says use &
[04:42] <billy_> suppose someone were to go to System Settings, and then click the Monitor & Display button, go into administrator mode, click the hardware tab, and push "test".  Is there any way to get out of this without shutting off the computer?
[04:42] <Minataku> dr_willis: Plus I've got other cool things to tell you about :D
[04:42] <inteliwasp> is it posible to fool a program to think it has control of the sound interface but let other programs do the same?
[04:42] <dr_willis> Minataku,  heh - remind me in a week or so. you do NOT want to know the mess in the garrage at the moment. :)
[04:42] <billy_> i'm having touble getting my desktop computer to run with a dual monitor configuration
[04:42] <xlinux__> shadytree; your welcome
[04:42] <Minataku> Heehee
[04:43] <cris_> !!!! hey anyone !!! hey how do i copy files onto a external hd via terminal
[04:43] <Minataku> Okay, I'll remind ya if I see ya, dr_willis :D
[04:43] <cris_> i udnerstand cb
[04:43] <Minataku> And thanks again ^^
[04:43] <ShadyTree> xlinux__,  That would work, but I think I'll just test it in Konqueror for now.  Im afraid of Microsoft
[04:43] <dr_willis> My wife had a rummage sale.. so she trashed the garrage.. and THEN she got robbed at her rummage sale..  they took her rummage sale $$
[04:43] <dr_willis> she was so ticked.
[04:43] <cris_> cp
[04:44] <ShadyTree> xlinux__,  Now that Ive had a chance to think it over rationally
[04:44] <yarddog> where can i change from gdm to kdm?
[04:44] <dr_willis> dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:44] <dr_willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:44] <yarddog> thanks
[04:44] <ShadyTree> the login screen
[04:44] <dr_willis> actually
[04:45] <yarddog> thank you
[04:46] <cris_> dr_willis: hey man, i mounted my hd but still says i dont have acces to folder even after i chmod it
[04:46] <xlinux__> shadytree; ok.. if it shows in fox and konquerer or firefox, chances are IE will show it. IE isnt as.. good... i dont know the specifics
[04:47] <ShadyTree> xlinux__, IE 6 and lower doesnt show transparent pngs, for one
[04:47] <dr_willis> cris_,  let me guess. a ntfs or vfat filesystem?
[04:47] <cris_> yes ntfs
[04:48] <xlinux__> shadytree; yeah. im a firefox dude personally.. I cant live without the extensions
[04:48] <ShadyTree> xlinux__, me too
[04:48] <dr_willis> cris_,  ok.. now listen.. when mounting a Filesystem (ntfs/vfat) you do NOT NOT NOT NOT .. chmod the mountpoint afterwards.. it wont work.  :)
[04:49] <xlinux__> shadytree; you tried Beta 3 yet?
[04:49] <cris_> well
[04:49] <cris_> before i chmoded it it didnt work
[04:49] <dr_willis> cris_,  you use the umask= option, and/or the users/users
[04:49] <ShadyTree> xlinux__, no, I didnt even know there was one
[04:49] <dr_willis> cris_,  chmoding it in ANY FORM OR WAY will have no effect.
[04:49] <cris_> can u be more specific? so i need to remount first then what?
[04:49] <cris_> dr_willis: so i dont need to remount
[04:49] <dr_willis> the proper way to mount ntfs is documented all over the place. :)  let me find my fave url
[04:49] <cris_> lol
[04:50] <dr_willis> you MUST remount it with the right options
[04:50] <xlinux__> Shadytree; yeah firefox 3 is being made, and you can use it. Its supposed to be lighter and add features, but many extensions wont work until theyre upgraded...
[04:50] <ShadyTree> xlinux__, oh cool
[04:50] <cris_> ...
[04:51] <dr_willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=howto:mount
[04:51] <dr_willis> thats not the url i was looking for.. but it will work :)
[04:51] <xlinux__> I personally like konqueror, but its lack of addons makes things tedious.. no browser has the power of firefox.. everyone just HAS to hate the big guy
[04:52] <dr_willis> http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en  is my fave.. guess what.. its the same site heh heh..
[04:52] <dr_willis> they been rearanging it. lol
[04:52] <xlinux__> in windows world fox is the little guy, in linux world its the big 'evil' product
[04:52] <semistud2354> hey this is kinda a wierd question, but does anyone know a good program to make business cards out of
[04:52] <cris_> lemme look\
[04:53] <jack> scribus?
[04:53] <jack> gimp-svg?
[04:53] <Tarsus> hello,having difficulty setting up a wireless network in ubuntu, any faqs that can help? google want' my friend.
[04:53] <carutsu> I have a weird problem, my media (volume up, down and mute) keys are missed if i turn composite on, (doesnt metter what key i puck they just dont work), if i restore to default, then they get back to working
[04:53] <hakaisou_> konqueror has it's uses
[04:53] <nightlynx> How can I change the desktop selection box color?
[04:53] <fignew> xlinux__: bah @ firefox plugins :)
[04:53] <Tarsus> Config IPW2100 + edgy eft
[04:53] <hakaisou_> mostly FTP and file browsing personally
[04:53] <xlinux__> fignew; why man? theyre really nice
[04:53] <fignew> Konq > * ;)
[04:54] <fignew> the only one I use is adblock+... konq has that built in.
[04:54] <Tarsus> I would say that the adapter is stuck in IPV6 mode
[04:54] <fignew> plugins make firefox even slower
[04:54] <cris_> hm
[04:54] <xlinux__> fignew; i guess... its not the case for me, but I guess
[04:55] <cris_> dr_willis: it still says u dont not hav epermissions necessary
[04:55] <cris_> i typed mount /dev/hda2 /drive -t ntfs -r
[04:56] <fignew> xlinux__: don't get me wrong, firefox & plugins are sweet... i just like konq more (no wrong answer here)
[04:56] <carutsu> anyone?
[04:56] <xlinux__> everyone says this is so with fox (that its slow), but it loads so fast and renders pages faster than Opera or Konqueror for me.. maybe its because I have a nice comp..
[04:56] <cris_> dr_willis: so the umask
[04:56] <cris_> what umaskl do i use
[04:56] <cris_> 777?
[04:56] <xlinux__> fignew.. Id use Konqueror if it had the plugin base of Firefox
[04:57] <xlinux__> Hey.. whats uo with KDE4?
[04:57] <carutsu> well, another topic then, my laptop has the same key to turn of wifi and bluetooth, werid huh?, well i want to turn off bluetooth as i dont use it and it's only draining my battery
[04:57] <dr_willis> cris_,  you dident read that web site did ya?
[04:57] <cris_> yes i did
[04:57] <cris_> but i dont have a umask
[04:57] <xlinux__> are they doing away with Konqueror
[04:57] <cris_> cuz i am on lvie cd
[04:57] <fignew> xlinux__: konq loads faster in KDE (no question) and Opera renders pages fastest
[04:58] <semistud2354> dude what type of wireless card do you have
[04:58] <dr_willis> fifth line of the First url i posted..........
[04:58] <dr_willis> mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -o umask=0002,nls=utf8
[04:58] <carutsu> semistud2354: me?
[04:58] <dr_willis> note the 'umask' option :)
[04:58] <semistud2354> lol...srry i was reading a previous post
[04:58] <semistud2354> my bad
[04:58] <carutsu> XD
[04:58] <semistud2354> did you get your wireless network going
[04:58] <cris_> yeah whats 0222 tho
[04:59] <semistud2354> i was looking at somthin else :p
[04:59] <xlinux__> konq loads faster for the first load, then its seemingly even for me. Firefox, at least in my case (maybe the fasterfox extension), renders pages noticably faster than Opera or Konqueror (Opera is very close)
[04:59] <dr_willis> cris_,  the 2nd url i posted (the main docs) explain all aobut that umask stuff. and what it does
[04:59] <dr_willis> its somt hing like "the default permissions are like 777-the umask" or somthing like that. :)
[04:59] <fignew> xlinux__: as far as I understand, they're gonna make dolphin the default file browser
[05:00] <dr_willis> i forget the specifics of how umask works
[05:00] <cris_> yeah i know
[05:00] <cris_> but i typed
[05:00] <cris_> mount /dev/hda2 /drive -t ntfs -o umask=777
[05:00] <cris_> still ownt lmemme in
[05:00] <dr_willis> you DONT set the mode.. you set the mask that is used with the 777  :)
[05:01] <fignew> xlinux__: konq will still be the default web browser (I believe), and still be able to browse file (only, now, via the dolphin kpart)
[05:01] <dr_willis> thats why its a mask
[05:01] <xlinux__> fignew; why the hell would they do that?? Konq is perfectly fine.. Dolphin lacks many options compared to Konq
[05:01] <cris_> whats the mask? i dont mean to do this but my girl is behind me bitchin me out lol
[05:01] <cris_> i need her files for school her paper is due lol
[05:01] <dr_willis> http://theory.uwinnipeg.ca/UNIXhelp/examples/umask.html
[05:01] <dr_willis> use  the 0002 mask like the examples say
[05:02] <dr_willis> This subtracts 002 from the sytem defaults to give a default access permission for your files of 664 (rw-rw-r--) and for your directories of 775 (rwxrwxr-x).
[05:03] <fignew> xlinux__: dunno
[05:03] <fignew> I could be mistaken though
[05:05] <xlinux__> Ive thought of going back to gnome
[05:07] <xlinux__> kde is great and all, but the ubuntu distro will forever be primarily gnome
[05:07] <carutsu> xlinux__: why do you say that>
[05:07] <xlinux__> ive also thought about switching to sabayon for portage AND kde.. but I dunno
[05:08] <phlawless> linux mce www.linuxmce.com install can anyone assist
[05:08] <dr_willis> untill kde4 comes out.. then all bets are off.
[05:08] <dr_willis> :)
[05:08] <xlinux__> I believe in the ubuntu community and philosophy, but theres very little support in Kubuntu
[05:09] <dr_willis> i find as much support in kubuntu as in ubuntu.. of course for a lot of that i am my own support in both.
[05:09] <xlinux__> I find mysellf using the ubuntu forums to try and fix kubuntu probs
[05:09] <dr_willis> all the 'support docs/guides' need some work in all areas however. :) i want each one to have a kde/gnome/console section.
[05:10] <xlinux__> I just have to figure out the KDE way to do things...
[05:10] <xlinux__> the weird thing is.. KDE seems MORE stable than Gnome
[05:11] <dr_willis> kde way = click here, there , over there,,, gnome way.. cick on this other stuff here, there over there. :)
[05:11] <xGrantx> how do I get rid of a package that keeps trying to install but breaks everytime?
[05:12] <xGrantx> it won't let me install other things because it keeps breaking out of apt-get
[05:12] <carutsu> how do i turn off bluetooth by software?
[05:13] <dr_willis> theres that force uninstall option.
[05:13] <dr_willis> but ive rarely had to use it.
[05:13] <dr_willis> xGrantx,  what package broke?
[05:13] <xlinux__> yeah.. well I think KDE is a better DE. But I think gnome is better to bring people into linux
[05:13] <mfreeze> Do you think there is much difference between installing Kubuntu or Installing Ubuntu then 'kubuntu-desktop'?
[05:13] <bartosz> dr_willis i have a question...
[05:13] <Minataku> I _hate_ GNOME
[05:13] <bartosz> i can't play my dvd
[05:13] <Minataku> With a passion
[05:13] <bartosz> and i have tired what they tell you on wiki
[05:13] <xGrantx> dr_willis: cairo viz something
[05:13] <dr_willis> xlinux__,  i get sick of all the disrto guys bending over backwards for people that dont want to bother to learn.. then get demmanded to do backflips as well. :)
[05:14] <Minataku> I'd rather use Finder (OSX version) or explorer.exe than GNOME
[05:14] <dr_willis> heh heh
[05:14] <cris_> dr_willis: hey i dont care to know that but when u have a girlfriend like i do, and she sbitching at u cuz u "fucked her laptop up" when u didnt, then maybe u dont care
[05:15] <cris_> and u dont want to talk to a prick
[05:15] <dr_willis> cris_,  windows95 inside a vmware session works wonders...
[05:15] <cris_> i never asked for a backflip
[05:15] <cris_> lol
[05:15] <cris_> windoes95
[05:15] <cris_> haha
[05:15] <cris_> lol
[05:15] <dr_willis> cris_,  and i wasent talking about you :)
[05:15] <Minataku> !language | cris_
[05:15] <ubotu> cris_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:15] <dr_willis> you actually did learn
[05:15] <cris_> yeah i did lol anmd i appreciate it
[05:15] <cris_> but i was just sayin my girl blabla bal lol
[05:15] <carutsu> !kvm
[05:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:15] <dr_willis> this whole 'we gotta make linux for the mass's' is getting.. well tiresome. :0
[05:16] <Minataku> dr_willis: It's either that or die
[05:16] <dr_willis> Minataku,  i dont see that as true
[05:16] <Minataku> But then there are distros for us power users, too
[05:16] <Minataku> Like Gentoo
[05:16] <dr_willis> disrtos raise and fall.. true enough
[05:16] <Minataku> dr_willis: No support because people are too damn stupid to swich to something that is harder to use means less users and less action
[05:16] <bartosz> can anyone help me with my dvd
[05:16] <bartosz> player
[05:16] <dr_willis> but any more the main diffeance in disrtos  now a days seems tobe eye candy.
[05:17] <Minataku> The problem is that to get anywhere, you have to cater to the less-than-average masses
[05:17] <dr_willis> ive never gotten a good definition on what 'support' for users from the disrto makers actually is. :)
[05:17] <Minataku> Who want things that are easy to use and look all "pretty"
[05:17] <dr_willis> does redhat have a phone # to explain people how to use the shell?
[05:17] <Minataku> For what it costs it fucking better
[05:17] <Minataku> Oops
[05:18] <Minataku> Finger slipped <.<
[05:18] <dr_willis> then again most 'support' the dsrto makers sale is for big companies.
[05:18] <carutsu> how do i know if i have virtualization by hardware?
[05:18] <xlinux__> dr_willis; I know what you mean.. Im REALLY considering saying screw it and jump to Sabayon.. although portage can be a PIA
[05:18] <dr_willis> I cant even rember the last time i got any 'useable support information' from the various companies ive called.
[05:18] <Minataku> carutsu: A CPU feature flag, I suppose
[05:18] <Minataku> Portage is great
[05:18] <Minataku> Never had a problem with it
[05:18] <dr_willis> xlinux__,  ive had no issues at all with ubuntu/Kubuntu.. i had plenty of issues with Sabayon
[05:18] <Minataku> dr_willis: That's why you and I are here
[05:18] <carutsu> Minataku: i saw a command over there in ubuntuforums but i can't find it again
[05:19] <dr_willis> and gentoo gave me some issues as well.
[05:19] <Minataku> Helping people who don't know but want to learn
[05:19] <Minataku> dr_willis: Like what? .
[05:20] <xlinux__> really..Minataku, thats me.. Im realtively new.. but im like a fly on crap for learning stuff...
[05:20] <Minataku> Just saying "I had issues" is like going to the doctor and saying "I have pains"
[05:20] <phlawless> i dont know how to install apps like linux mce but would like to learn hehe
[05:20] <Minataku> Sorry, I've gotten riled up
[05:20] <xlinux__> dr_willis, what kind of problems... trying to configure Gentoo sounds a bit much for me.. Id prolly end up with a baseline failure or somethin
[05:21] <Minataku> Seriously, though, dr_willis, what issues?
[05:21] <Minataku> Because I'm a Gentoo user
[05:21] <dr_willis> Minataku,  well it was just.. odd to me that the Linux gazzette magazine packages were 'masked' and i had to unmask them to install themn on my 64bit setup..
[05:21] <Minataku> I'd really like to know
[05:21] <dr_willis> Minataku,  just lots of little oddities..but this was a few years back i wil admit.
[05:21] <dr_willis> :)
[05:21] <Minataku> dr_willis: Ah.
[05:22] <dr_willis> and at  the time there was some oddities with some other support files. i forget now.
[05:22] <dr_willis> they hav cleaned it up a lot i guess. :)
[05:22] <dr_willis> was that 3 years ago? have i been using Ubuntu that long?
[05:22] <Minataku> Heehee, sorry, my anger tends to snowball and talking about Windows users got me started down the angry path XD
[05:23] <Minataku> The fact that the ice in my water melted in only one hour is pretty irritating as well
[05:23] <Minataku> Freakin' warm already
[05:23] <dr_willis> global warming?
[05:23] <xlinux__> windows aint THAT bad.. its just what it is, where linux can be tweaked. Plus windows is a corporate craphole
[05:24] <dr_willis> i summerize it thusly...
[05:24] <bartosz> anyone can help with dvd playback?
[05:24] <angasuIe> dr_willis: or that thing called 'summer', you should go see the Day Star sometime :D
[05:24] <Minataku> I made a poem out of it
[05:24] <dr_willis> when windows breaks - you often end up doing 'odd' things like remiove/reinstalling programs and HOPE it fixes itself..
[05:24] <bobby> nice
[05:24] <dr_willis> when linux breaks - you can dig under the hood and see whats going on.
[05:24] <Minataku> Windows. W is for the IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
[05:24] <Minataku> X3
[05:25] <dr_willis> angasuIe,  i work 2nd shift. :)
[05:25] <dr_willis> I suppose next you will be telling me its memorial day weekend!
[05:25] <dr_willis> :)
[05:26] <bobby> Hey what the fuck
[05:26] <angasuIe> dr_willis: no idea what you are talking about
[05:26] <angasuIe> dr_willis: I'm in another hemisphere, let alone country
[05:26] <Minataku> Heh
[05:26] <Minataku> You don't get Monday off, then
[05:26] <xlinux__> i take it you cant swear in here...lol
[05:27] <Minataku> You can't, but you don't get killed for it
[05:27] <Minataku> I think he just screwed up
[05:27] <dr_willis> Minataku,  but since he lives way over there - i bet HE can watch the Indy 500 on tv! i live an hr away from it. and cant watch it..
[05:27] <Minataku> dr_willis: Heh
[05:27] <Minataku> Damn blackout
[05:27] <Minataku> Though the Indy 500 is a boring circle track race
[05:28] <Minataku> Give me the United States Grand Prix instead
[05:28] <dr_willis> id rather see Roller Derby!
[05:28] <Minataku> Haha
[05:29] <makuseru> there is a GParted live CD correct?
[05:29] <xlinux__> whats the *worst* linux distro
[05:29] <angasuIe> I had friday off :)
[05:29] <carutsu> xlinux__: dont ask here xD, we should keep this out of distro wars
[05:29] <Minataku> SuSE isn't very good anymore
[05:29] <bartosz> how to i kill a terminal process?
[05:30] <Minataku> bartosz: First, try Control+C
[05:30] <carutsu> Minataku: I've eard it was good, why not?
[05:30] <Minataku> If that fails, see if you can hit it with Control+Z
[05:30] <Minataku> The first one tries to terminate it
[05:30] <bartosz> nope
[05:30] <Minataku> The second one will try to stop it
[05:30] <Minataku> So you can kill it manually by looking up it's pid
[05:30] <bartosz> yea
[05:31] <bartosz> i did that its an eggdrop i typed in
[05:31] <bartosz> kill 3
[05:31] <bartosz> thats what the number is and it says
[05:31] <bartosz> operation not permitted
[05:31] <Minataku> Well, if Control+Z worked, do it in the terminal, if it failed, launch another one
[05:31] <Minataku> After that, type kill `pidof eggdrop`
[05:31] <Minataku> If THAT fails, type kill -9 `pidof eggdrop`
[05:32] <Minataku> If _THAT_ fails, you're up poop creek
[05:32] <angasuIe> Minataku: if that fails, use sudo :)
[05:32] <bartosz> damn
[05:32] <Minataku> Nah, he launched it as himself
[05:32] <bartosz> everything faild
[05:32] <Minataku> So it should work
[05:32] <bartosz> wtf
[05:32] <Assassin`> !at
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about at - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <Assassin`> !ati
[05:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:32] <Minataku> bartosz: What did you type to start it?
[05:32] <Minataku> Just "eggdrop"?
[05:32] <bartosz> well i opend up the config file and it said
[05:33] <bartosz> run it in terminal so i did
[05:33] <bartosz> after i config. ofcourse
[05:33] <bartosz> no i just clicked on it
[05:33] <xlinux__> im not trying to start a distro war.. i just want to know which distros to stay away from
[05:34] <Minataku> bartosz: Well, type ps -A and look for it
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> xlinux__: well, that depends on what you are looking for
[05:34] <Minataku> Take down the number there, and type "kill <that number>"
[05:34] <Minataku> If it fails, "kill -9 <that number>"
[05:34] <Minataku> kill alone sends SIGTERM
[05:34] <Minataku> If the process is responsive at all, that'll end it
[05:35] <bartosz> -xs4all.nl.quakenet.org-
[05:35] <bartosz> oops sorry
[05:35] <bartosz> 18532 pts/0    00:00:00 ps
[05:35] <bartosz> thats all it came up
[05:35] <Minataku> -9 tells kill to send SIGKILL, which the program never recieves, the kernel steps in and trashes it
[05:35] <bartosz> but whenever i tyepin ls
[05:35] <jack> eggdrop wont die on sigterm, only sigkill and sigabrt
[05:35] <Minataku> bartosz: "ps -A"
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> xlinux__: if you're looking for something that just works, go with one of the ubuntu flavors
[05:36] <Minataku> If you're looking for something that works well, Gentoo
[05:36] <hitmanWilly> Minataku: once its set up correctly, which can take awhile :)
[05:36] <bartosz> Minataku its not in the ps _A
[05:36] <jack> xlinux__: just dont, if you need plain x11 connectivity to work </flame>
[05:37] <bartosz> ps -A list
[05:37] <jack> kubuntu is cute, but...
[05:37] <Minataku> bartosz: Then it's not running.
[05:37] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Not really
[05:37] <bartosz> ohhhhhhhhhhh
[05:37] <bartosz> well then what does it mean
[05:37] <bartosz> Run in terminal
[05:37] <bartosz> when i double click on the egdrop.conf
[05:37] <Minataku> Run it manually by typing in it's name
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> Minataku: im running gentoo right now...i know :) its a pain to set up compared with other more "friendly distros", but it does have its advantages
[05:38] <bartosz> how do u do that?
[05:38] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: I'm a Gentoo user as well :D
[05:38] <bartosz> whats the command for that
[05:38] <Minataku> bartosz: I dunno, probably "eggdrop"
[05:39] <bartosz> k
[05:39] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Heh
[05:39] <xlinux__> gentoo takes like a day just to install, and then of course theyres the famous emerge --sync and the one that actually updates and recompiles stuff
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> Minataku: i actually run kubuntu on the lappy, tho...don't use it for any heavy duty stuff
[05:40] <Minataku> I don't have any Kubuntu machines
[05:40] <xlinux__> i mean, dang.. thats like 5-6 hours of recompiling for maintenance.. and with 2gb ram, a core2duo and a 4mb l2 cache, Kubuntu is BLAZING fast
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> xlinux__: its not that bad once you get your USE flags set up right
[05:40] <jack> hitmanWilly: did you happen to get remote x11 connections working, perhaps?
[05:41] <xlinux__> I dont know what a use flag is...
[05:41] <Minataku> xlinux__: Please refrain from attempting to start a flamewar, thank you
[05:41] <Cryoniq> Problem: I am trying to mount a smb share with sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.2/share /mnt/sharedir -o username=user,password=password. it fails with some error with -13 and -5 and tell me bad password etc and mention something about TID and UID. I can mount shares on the device that is public and doesnt require password. What is it that I am doing wrong? =/
[05:41] <jack> xlinux__: that's portage special
[05:41] <hitmanWilly> jack: ?
[05:41] <Cryoniq> oh this is under kubuntu 7.04
[05:41] <jack> hitmanWilly: export DISPLAY=remoteip:0.0
[05:41] <dr_willis> gotta love flamewars
[05:41] <jack> plain old x11 remoteness
[05:42] <xlinux__> im not trying to... Gentoo is awesome.. its just a matter of whats right... I really want to give KDE/gentoo a shot, but it scares me.. lol
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> jack: never actually tried it, don't need to
[05:42] <Minataku> I've got a Gentoo machine, a Debian machine, plenty of Solaris machines
[05:42] <jack> ok, i guessed
[05:42] <jack> thanks :x
[05:42] <Minataku> Of course the Solaris machines are all SPARCs
[05:42] <Minataku> I've got an A/UX machine
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> xlinux__: it scared me at first, and ive been using various flavors since 99 :P
[05:43] <xlinux__> its like someone cant be realistic without being called a flamer.. im really not guys :)..
[05:43] <jack> Minataku: people who run multiple machines with x11 and no idea of connecting them without ssh scare me
[05:43] <jack> even if they have amigas
[05:43] <Minataku> Heh
[05:43] <ShadyTree> I have an Atari 1200XL
[05:44] <Minataku> http://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/ << Check this out
[05:44] <Minataku> Right from the A/UX machine
[05:44] <jack> i have a couple c64s, a 1541 w/ speeddos, a c128, a 1571, want more? ...
[05:44] <Minataku> I've got 22 machines
[05:44] <jack> could start telling about the bunch of rotten amigas, but what for
[05:44] <Cryoniq> Anyway.. hmm.. I feel totaly confused about this smb share mount.. why is it that the kubuntu file browser connect fine to my password protected shares but my mount comand does not.. =/
[05:45] <hitmanWilly> Minataku: that's old school right there :)
[05:45] <Minataku> From early '80s to 2003
[05:46] <Cryoniq> Minataku, how many Tac-II's did you break as young?  :P
[05:46] <Minataku> I'm only 22
[05:46] <Cryoniq> oops.. :P
[05:46] <Minataku> Some of my machines are older than I am :3
[05:46] <jack> that explains
[05:46] <jack> :<
[05:46] <Minataku> I'm a collector
[05:46] <Cryoniq> I lost count around 10...
[05:46] <jack> guess i need some old fart who actually networked things before 1996
[05:46] <jack> sigh
[05:47] <Cryoniq> I networked things before 1996...
[05:47] <jack> do you have any idea about x11 connections? :D
[05:47] <Minataku> So did I, if you count dial up networking
[05:47] <jack> no nx, no vnc, no ssh?
[05:47] <Minataku> Prodigy DOS client
[05:47] <Minataku> BBSs
[05:47] <Cryoniq> jack I fall flat on that area unfortunaly..
[05:47] <jack> see..damnit :)
[05:48] <Minataku> Annoying nothing <3
[05:48] <Cryoniq> I kinda miss the 1541 harddrive noises.. got to set it up some day and play some outrun :)
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> Minataku: did you use the one where you set the phone reciever down on it?
[05:48] <jack> did you ever get the sing-floppy-sing demo Cryoniq?
[05:49] <jack> wasnt just noise
[05:49] <Minataku> Nah, wish I had one of those, though
[05:49] <Cryoniq> yeah I did.. lol..
[05:49] <Minataku> Chipmusic FTW
[05:49] <jack> :)
[05:49] <jack> Minataku: it was the stepper in the 1541 that actually produced a "melody"
[05:49] <jack> no chiptune there
[05:50] <Cryoniq> I managed not to break my 1541 in the process either.. he he.. but many did.. :P
[05:50] <xlinux__> aight guys... ive got watched
[05:50] <Minataku> Yeah, but the SID chip plays better music :3
[05:50] <jack> yup, was a killer app
[05:50] <jack> literally :P
[05:50] <Cryoniq> !samba
[05:50] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[05:50] <dr_willis> i recall a drive-killer virus :)
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> i used to turn the internal speakers up so i could hear how well the connection was going...
[05:51] <dr_willis> hitmanWilly,  on my amiga i could hear the CPU causing intefearance/static on my am radio :)
[05:51] <dr_willis> sort of a load meter
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:51] <Minataku> dr_willis: I can do the same with a pickup coil and my current laptop
[05:51] <Minataku> Which is my main system, BTW
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> how did that pass FCC testing again?
[05:52] <dr_willis> they dident care back then
[05:52] <jack> they didnt have to :)
[05:52] <Minataku> Plus it wasn't significant interference
[05:52] <jack> cellphones existed only in hundreds, as elite expensive car phones
[05:52] <jack> the world wasnt where it is today
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> now its hard to get approval for a 5 yard fm transmitter for an mp3 player...
[05:53] <jack> yup
[05:53] <Minataku> Car phones as in they weighed as much as a car :P
[05:53] <dr_willis> Cellphones = big things that were wired into the cars..
[05:53] <jack> exactly Minataku
[05:54] <jack> damn i still want to know why i cant connect to port 6000 from outside :x
[05:55] <jack> everything else works, all iptables chains are empty and the default policy is ACCEPT
[05:55] <dr_willis> whats port 6000?
[05:55] <jack> x11
[05:55] <dr_willis> thats disabled by default i thought in some of the X configs
[05:55] <jack> cat /etc/services |grep x11
[05:55] <dr_willis> untill you enavble xdmcp
[05:55] <jack> yeah, i enabled it
[05:55] <dr_willis> or am i thinking of the other port
[05:56] <jack> xdmcp has an own port, 177
[05:56] <jack> not necessarily related, but yes its running too
[05:56] <dr_willis> :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -nolisten tcp
[05:56] <jack> port 6000 is open, according to netstat listening to * from *:*
[05:57] <dr_willis> hmm.. may be X is getting started with the -nolisten option
[05:57] <jack> removing the -nolisten tcp did that
[05:57] <jack> no
[05:57] <jack> its open
[05:57] <dr_willis> you did restart X ? :)
[05:57] <jack> i can telnet in, but only from 127.0.0.1
[05:57] <jack> yeah, i had to
[05:57] <dr_willis> you telnet in to X? heh ok..  ya get an ascii desktop? :)
[05:58] <jack> no man, thats only my default test for any tcp thing
[05:58] <jack> if its listening or not
[05:58] <dr_willis> telnet localhost 6000
[05:58] <jack> exactly, that works
[05:58] <dr_willis> hmm what does 6000 actually do anyway? i got xdmcp enabled.. and dident have to enable it
[05:58] <jack> telnet from outside (lan) doesnt
[05:59] <jack> but should
[05:59] <dr_willis> enable port 6000 that is.
[05:59] <jack> plain old x11 remote connectivity..
[05:59] <dr_willis> that the one needed for the xdmcp broadcast sutff to work? for X -query ?
[06:00] <PiNE> what is the difference between the install cd and dvd (aside from size)?
[06:00] <jack> i'd lie, i dont know exactly
[06:00] <jack> i dont need xdcmp, i need only x11
[06:00] <dr_willis> DisallowTCP=false    - seems ot be a gdm/kdm option related to it.
[06:00] <jack> yup, fixed already too
[06:00] <jack> kdmrc is perfect, believe me
[06:00] <dr_willis> jack,  to do what exactly? heh .  im still not sure what 6000 does thats so different.
[06:00] <ardchoille> PiNE: The dvd has more packages on it. But, those same packages are available via the repos
[06:00] <jack> look:
[06:01] <jack> if i do "export DISPLAY=remoteip:0.0" on the other box
[06:01] <jack> all apps want to connect to remoteip's xserver
[06:01] <jack> ok?
[06:01] <jack> that doesnt work. no clue why.
[06:01] <dr_willis> ahhhhh.. dont you have to set 'xhost + remotemachine' to allow that?
[06:01] <dr_willis> i recall using that ages ago.
[06:02] <dr_willis> im going the other way.. i am ssh/connecting to a remote box and having it run apps showing locally.
[06:02] <dr_willis> you are trying to run an app locally and have its display show on the remote box.
[06:02] <dr_willis> or am i confused again,., its getting late.
[06:03] <billy> does anyone know how to configure the LILO boot loader?  I just installed ubuntu on a second hard drive, and previously I had windows XP on the first hard drive, but it doesn't let me choose which OS to boot into
[06:03] <Minataku> Can't use GRUB?
[06:03] <dr_willis> ubuntu uses grub by default
[06:04] <billy> I don't know, I guess I could use grub, but I happened to pick LILO when I installed ubuntu
[06:04] <Minataku> Eep
[06:04] <dr_willis> why - heh heh :)
[06:04] <dr_willis> i dont even rember that getting asked.
[06:04] <PiNE> ardchoille, is their anything mind-blowing on it?  why release both formats if their is almost no difference?
[06:04] <billy> how was I supposed to know? it asked me which one to use and I just picked one
[06:04] <billy> I was using the text mode alternate install CD
[06:05] <dr_willis> ahh.. that one does ask i rember now.
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> !lilo
[06:05] <ubotu> lilo is an alternative [Li] nux Boot[Lo] ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead.
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> no link, crap
[06:06] <billy> well, is there a simple way to just install grub?
[06:06] <Minataku> You can probably replace LILO
[06:06] <Minataku> Yeah
[06:06] <billy> without re-installing the whole OS
[06:06] <dr_willis> to fix lilo. you would have to boot the live cd, chroot over to the isntalled system.. edit the lilo config. then rerun lilo
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> !grub | billy
[06:06] <ubotu> billy: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:06] <billy> oh, simple!
[06:06] <dr_willis> to install grub.. hmm.. boot live cd. chroot over, apt-get install grub (i guess)
[06:06] <billy> so how do I do that?
[06:06] <ardchoille> PiNE: I haven't seen a need to use the dvd.. I suppose it's for folks who have a slow connection. Anything mind-boggling on it would be in the repos anyway.
[06:06] <jack> dr_willis: right guess. xhost + is done already (allows *)
[06:07] <jack> as root and as defaultuser
[06:07] <jack> didnt help :(
[06:07] <dr_willis> jack,  heh - i seem to recall that being a big security issue ages ago. :()
[06:07] <jack> sure, but that box isnt forwarded anything, no NAT
[06:07] <jack> so its safe
[06:08] <dr_willis> jack,  trying to rember from the past..   id do a 'xhost +' then telnet to the remote box.. then export the DISPLAY, then run the app.
[06:08] <jack> yup
[06:08] <jack> replace telnet with ssh though
[06:08] <jack> for a plain bash that works
[06:08] <dr_willis> well with ssh ya dont need to do the xhost or export.
[06:08] <dr_willis> ssh -X (or -Y) host, run apop
[06:08] <dr_willis> IF the ssh server is set to allow it.
[06:09] <jack> cool, let me try!
[06:09] <dr_willis> jack,  i was WONDERING why you were not just using ssh and trying things the hard way.
[06:09] <dr_willis> :)
[06:10] <jack> ^^
[06:10] <jack> cause x11 on cygwin worked so flawlessly, i guess
[06:10] <jack> xon 192.168.1.1 -access and done
[06:10] <dr_willis> X11Forwarding yes
[06:11] <dr_willis> i use xming instead of cygwin
[06:11] <dr_willis> depends on how/what you are doing i guess as to what to use
[06:11] <dr_willis> I am running windowsxp + xming, and i got an icon on the xp desktop that gives me a remote konsole window, on the xp desktop.
[06:12] <jack> yeah, sweet
[06:12] <dr_willis> i can then run other X apps and they appear on the widows machine
[06:12] <jack> let me try the ssh way :)
[06:12] <dr_willis> OR i can do the xdmcp stuff and have a full desktop
[06:12] <dr_willis> the sshd config has to allow that X11 forwarding
[06:13] <jack> ok
[06:13] <dr_willis> thats one of the first things i set up on a new install
[06:14] <dr_willis> its amazing how small a linux box it takes to serve up xdmcp desktops on several clients.
[06:14] <jack> :)
[06:15] <jack> ssh -Y on the remote box?
[06:15] <dr_willis> on the box you are on.. you ssh -X or ssh -Y to the remote box.
[06:15] <dr_willis> -Y i think is for a local lan thing. It may not be as secure but faster
[06:15] <jack> what do i set my DISPLAY to?
[06:15] <dr_willis> jack,  thats just it - if done right you do NOT NOT NOT need to set the display :)
[06:15] <dr_willis> or mess with xhost
[06:15] <jack> yeah its local, no NAT
[06:15] <dr_willis> thats the beauty of ssh
[06:16] <jack> ok cool
[06:16] <dr_willis> now ya know why telnet is dieing off :)
[06:17] <dr_willis> well off to play Lord of the Rings Online. :)  i will check in a little now and thene
[06:21] <Kr4t05> Is there any equivalent to Autorun in Windows for Linux? If I put a Linux executable on a disc, can I have it show up in the mount dialog that asks me what I want to do with the media?
[06:23] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05: kde does that already, no?
[06:23] <Kr4t05> hitmanWilly: I dunno...
[06:24] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05: does it do anything in kde when you stick in a cd? or just sit there?
[06:24] <Kr4t05> It brings up the usual dialog.
[06:24] <khaije1> hitmanWilly: no it does nothing
[06:24] <Kr4t05> But, I'm asking if it will include the executable that I have in my disc.
[06:25] <khaije1> hitmanWilly: it never does anything
[06:25] <Minataku> Sorry, disappered...
[06:25] <khaije1> hitmanWilly: ever....
[06:25] <Minataku> Gonna do it again, too
[06:25] <Minataku> Sorry, too tired to help anymore XD
[06:25] <hitmanWilly> Kr4t05: oh, no, not that i know of
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> i always hated that "feature" anyway
[06:27] <Kr4t05> Well, I'm burning as CD for someone who's less-than-saavy. No big, I'll just make sure they know how to execute it. :)
[06:27] <Kr4t05> s/as/a
[06:30] <Assassin`> !xgl
[06:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:31] <korobase> How to backup my kubuntu?
[06:31] <korobase> !backup
[06:31] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[06:35] <jack> anyone an idea how to allow remote x11 connections in kubuntu?
[06:35] <jack> fixed kdmrc already, rebooted..port 6000 is open but i cant get in from outside
[06:39] <savetheWorld> jack:  kdrc or krfd
[06:40] <xGrantx> ugh
[06:40] <xGrantx> how do I unlock the package manager? I canceled before it finished and now it's locked, I've fixed it before but forgot how
[06:50] <Maxdamantus> Anyone know how to get XChat coloured tabs working in KDE - Kubuntu?
[06:51] <Maxdamantus> I discovered that they work in Enlightenment, Kubuntu.
[06:51] <Maxdamantus> And I know it works in KDE Gentoo.
[06:51] <Maxdamantus> Havn't got it working in KDE Kubuntu or GNOME Kubuntu though.
[06:59] <titanix88> hendaus: hi
[07:02] <mehdi_> hello EB
[07:02] <hendaus> titanix88:  hi
[07:02] <hendaus> wb
[07:02] <mehdi_> where is w32codecs
[07:02] <mehdi_> i would to install w32codecs
[07:03] <mehdi_> but it's seem not to be in depots
[07:03] <defrysk> mehdi_, http://seveas.imbrandon.com/
[07:03] <hitmanWilly> mehdi_: its in the medibuntu repos
[07:03] <hendaus> !w32codes | mehdi_
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32codes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <hitmanWilly> !wmv
[07:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:03] <defrysk> mehdi_, they are available in seveas repo
[07:04] <defrysk> mehdi_, wget http://seveas.imbrandon.com/pool/feisty-seveas/extras/w32codecs_20061022-1~seveas1_i386.deb
[07:04] <mehdi_> defrysk: the last time it was in multivers what happen
[07:05] <defrysk> mehdi_, never knew it has ever been in multiverse
[07:05] <defrysk> mehdi_, so I doubt it ever was inthere
[07:06] <hendaus> titanix88: i couldnot found a program from transfering images for nokia 6230b
[07:06] <mehdi_> with bluetooth?
[07:06] <mehdi_> hendaus:
[07:07] <hendaus> mehdi_:  no usb
[07:07] <titanix88> hendaus: tough luck then.
[07:09] <hendaus> titanix88:  tough??????/
[07:10] <bes> 
[07:10] <mehdi_> what's this pblmwith the key : no-pubkey
[07:10] <djdarkman> hello, I noticed a strange issue, I closed amarok, and it`s process still remained in the memory, why is that?
[07:11] <mehdi_> i have this message whene a do apt-get update
[07:11] <mehdi_> no-pubkey ...
[07:11] <titanix88> hendaus: i don't know any software. but using mem card reader you can do that.(how much time do i have to tell u :)
[07:11] <djdarkman> mehdi_: download and install jriddel`s key
[07:11] <gilbert> sudo apt-get update
[07:11] <anticlockwise_> djdarkman: how did you close it? did you just click on the close button?
[07:12] <gilbert> then type your pw
[07:12] <djdarkman> anticlockwise_: right clicked the icon -> quit, and the systray disssapeared
[07:12] <mehdi_> haw djdarkman
[07:12] <djdarkman> anticlockwise_: btw same thing happend with  beryl and emerald
[07:13] <djdarkman> mehdi_: 1 sec and I`ll give you the link
[07:13] <anticlockwise_> djdarkman: hmm... that is strange, mine works fine, sorry I can't help
[07:13] <djdarkman> hmmm maybe it`s because AMD64 ?
[07:14] <djdarkman> mehdi_: wget http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[07:14] <anticlockwise_> djdarkman: maybe, what version of Kubuntu did you install? 32bit or 64?
[07:14] <djdarkman> mehdi_: sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[07:14] <djdarkman> mehdi_: rm -f kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[07:15] <djdarkman> anticlockwise_: 64 bit, and I noticed that all processes are using twice as much as memory as in 32
[07:15] <mehdi_> ok thanx djdarkman
[07:15] <djdarkman> mehdi_: did it work?
[07:16] <anticlockwise_> djdarkman: maybe that's the problem~~ I've got an AMD64 CPU, but I'm using 32bit Kubuntu, everything works fine
[07:16] <mehdi_> i'm wating when w32codecs will be installed
[07:16] <mehdi_> i will do this
[07:17] <djdarkman> anticlockwise_: the problem is that reinstalling my whole system would be a pain... I would fall back to 32 if there would be a simple way of doing it
[07:18] <anticlockwise_> djdarkman: :) I guess the only way to fall back to 32bit is reinstalling the whole system...
[07:19] <mehdi_> djdarkman: i remembre it's was medibuntu not multivrese
[07:20] <djdarkman> yeah anticlockwise_ sooner or later, I can`t keep up with this much memory, need to get a blank cd to do it, and it`s sunday
[07:20] <anticlockwise_> djdarkman: good luck~~
[07:21] <djdarkman> thanks
[07:21] <titanix88> hendaus: you should check http://www.gnokii.org/faq.shtml#po .they say they fully support your phone!
[07:23] <titanix88> hendaus: also read this; http://www.gnokii.org/docs.shtml#dku2
[07:23] <hendaus> titanix88:  gnokii doest have to trasfering images, just contacts and messages
[07:26] <tom_> can someone  tell me the name of the terminal based IRC client?
[07:27] <titanix88> hendaus: like they say insted of kernel hacking just try "connection = dku2libusb" in your .gnokiirc
[07:27] <anticlockwise_> tom_: mIRC I think
[07:28] <hendaus> titanix88:  this for transfering images or not?
[07:28] <tom_> thx anticlockwise dawg
[07:29] <mehdi_> djdarkman: it work thx
[07:30] <tmbg> that's cute. kaffeine doesn't do anything with I try to run it. just sits there.
[07:30] <mehdi_> djdarkman: do u now haw listen to mp3 files in smb://
[07:31] <makuseru> dr_willis: you in here?
[07:31] <ciga> hi
[07:32] <titanix88> hendaus: no image but at least youi should do others just for fun!
[07:33] <ciga> can anyone expect kde 3.5.7 in edgy soon? I mean official debs...
[07:35] <tmbg> yup. kaffeine is still sitting there, not doing anything.
[07:36] <tmbg> not even launching. just hangs at the command line
[07:38] <defrysk> ciga, official debs ? ..... not likely
[07:40] <dameon> devnull, im going to ask that you please refrain from using my nickname. Last and finaly warning before I report you for abuse.
[07:41] <titanix88> can anyone tell me where can i register my irc nickname?
[07:41] <jussi01> hello all, does anyone know how to make the network start up earlier in the boot order?
[07:42] <jussi01> titanix88:
[07:42] <titanix88> give mae a link.
[07:42] <jussi01> titanix88:  /ns help register
[07:42] <titanix88> jussi01: can you help?
[07:42] <ciga> defrysk: so having kde 3.5.7 officially would mean upgrading to feisty.
[07:43] <jussi01> titanix88: type that command into your irc browser
[07:43] <titanix88> then
[07:43] <defrysk> ciga, upgrade to feisty and then http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php
[07:43] <ciga> defrysk: yes, i know the drill
[07:44] <ciga> thanks.
[07:44] <defrysk> ciga, and 3.5.7 is recommendable
[07:44] <titanix88> REGISTER <paglamia>
[07:45] <titanix88> jussi01: then what, i don't understand.
[07:45] <jussi01> titanix88: you need /ns before that
[07:45] <jussi01> and no <>
[07:46] <ciga> I have a floppy image w/ boot sector only, and an other without it. how can a combine the two into a third one which has a boot sector and the files from the other one? it is something like dd=2.bin of=3.bin skip=512 ... can anyone help?
[07:46] <jussi01> titanix88: just the password, and i suggest you do this in the bit that says freenode, so no-one sees if you mess it up...
[07:47] <jussi01> titanix88: so /ns REGISTER yourpasswordhere
[07:48] <titanix88> jussi01: thanks & <something> works for passwd too.
[07:49] <jussi01> yeah, but that probably means you need the <> everytime you type your passwaord....
[07:49] <titanix88> jussi01: how to setup the email?
[07:50] <dregorth> "/msg NickServ set email your@email.here"
[07:51] <titanix88> dergorth: thanks.
[07:51] <dregorth> titanix88: np
[07:52] <dregorth> :)
[07:52] <dregorth> helped you asked the question cuz i needed to know the same stuff lol
[07:52] <jussi01> heh
[07:52] <jussi01> I walked away for 1 second....
[07:53] <jussi01> titanix88: anything else you need and that...
[07:58] <snake> hi all
[07:58] <dregorth> hi snake
[07:59] <snake> i can not open flv and avi videos in firefox. what plugin do i have to download because i tried them all anf no one worked
[07:59] <dregorth> trying to play them INSIDE of firefox?
[07:59] <snake> yes
[07:59] <dregorth> ooo never tried that before
[07:59] <dregorth> sorry :/
[07:59] <snake> :S
[08:00] <snake> no problem
[08:00] <jussi01> snake: the mplayer plugin i think...
[08:00] <KevinAlaska> hello everyone. :)  might someone reference this paste--> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/915602   I have the first part is pasted from ubuntuforums.org which references an installation of a logitech keyboard g15 and then last half of the posting on pastebin is the file they talk about.  I am just not 100 percent sure on what part of 'user' they are talking about.  I see a few different places listed 'user' on that small file /etc/sudoers.
[08:03] <hendaus> titanix88:  cool
[08:09] <BWolf85> hello
[08:09] <dregorth> hi
[08:15] <KevinAlaska> how can I turn on a daemon on autorun when KDE loads up?
[08:17] <jussi01> KevinAlaska: leave it running at shut down....
[08:17] <jussi01> should then start on boot...
[08:17] <KevinAlaska> really?!  thats sweet.. :) thank you
[08:18] <KevinAlaska> /happy_dance
[08:18] <dregorth> can't you also choose to save session and that would work as long as the daemon is running when you save?
[08:18] <jussi01> KevinAlaska: _should_ test it though
[08:18] <KevinAlaska> oh I will.. :)
[08:18] <KevinAlaska> I was reading something on saving sessions
[08:18] <jussi01> :D cause i _could_ be wrong....
[08:18] <hendaus> back
[08:18] <KevinAlaska> doh!  what the hell do you mean that your "HUMAN!"?
[08:19] <jussi01> but I think Im right
[08:19] <KevinAlaska> :P
[08:19] <dregorth> i was pointed to save session idea before
[08:19] <jussi01> yeah, Im not a bot...
[08:19] <hendaus> helpers! who can help me with ktorrent, i have a little problem
[08:19] <jussi01> !ubotu
[08:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[08:19] <dregorth> when i had to get the kreminder daemon to stop starting up
[08:19] <dregorth> i would say that would be your best bet
[08:19] <jussi01> hendaus: is it always crashing with sisev?
[08:20] <jussi01> hendaus: whats the issue?
[08:21] <hendaus> jussi01:  sa7alnoum has been stopped with the following error
[08:21] <hendaus> cannot open /home/hendaus/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor1/cache/07.DAT
[08:21] <hendaus> jussi01:  permision denied
[08:22] <tahsin> can anyone help me with baghira ?
[08:22] <jussi01> hendaus: Im not sure on that, Im not a ktorrent expert. sorry
[08:22] <jussi01> tahsin: what about it?
[08:22] <_apisq> ubotu,when I go to gmail.com I only get a part of it ,like code is missing?
[08:22] <tahsin> jussi01: im stuck in step 4
[08:22] <hendaus> anyone help me please
[08:22] <hendaus> jussi01:  thanx
[08:22] <tahsin> http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php#step2
[08:22] <jussi01> tahsin: the theme? its in the repos...
[08:23] <tahsin> jussi01: the icon
[08:23] <tahsin> jussi01: step 4
[08:23] <KevinAlaska> I hate that happed recently _apisq.. do not think it is yoru system.  don't know what browser I was using though
[08:23] <dregorth> jussi01: think henaus' prob has to do with not having proper permissions?
[08:23] <KevinAlaska> er.. hate = had
[08:24] <jussi01> dregorth: yeah, but Im not sure exactly what to do, and I dont wnt to break his system more...
[08:24] <jussi01> dregorth: I have some ideas of course...
[08:25] <_apisq> kevinalaska,it'snot mozilla , but the other one
[08:25] <jussi01> _apisq: konqueror?
[08:25] <tahsin> jussi01: can you help me with the icon in step 4 of http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php#step2
[08:25] <dregorth> jussi01: true true
[08:25] <_apisq> yes
[08:25] <dregorth> jussi01: i haven't worked with ktorrent either...
[08:26] <jussi01> tahsin: what is going wrong?
[08:26] <tahsin> jussi01: i do not know how to install that icon theme
[08:27] <koalalorenzo> ...
[08:27] <scar> hey is htere a windows media player type plugin for ubuntu thatll allow windows meida player files on firefox to play? or any browser for thast matter?
[08:28] <lenny> Hi. colorzilla add-on for firefox doen't work in kubuntu. what can i do?
[08:28] <tahsin> lenny: can you help me with the icon in step 4 of http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php#step2
[08:29] <jussi01> tahsin: all of this should just work for you once you have installed baghira from the repos. then just go kmenu-> systemsettings ->appearance and change stuff through the gui
[08:29] <jussi01> tahsin: so go to adept, find baghira and install
[08:29] <tahsin> jussi01: baghira is already installed
[08:29] <lenny> i'm sorry, but i have a bad english and i'm newby in kubuntu
[08:30] <scar> anyone???
[08:30] <tahsin> jussi01: i just want to install that icon theme
[08:30] <dregorth> scar: mmm not sure sorry
[08:30] <dregorth> scar: it's been something i've been wondering about as well for firefox
[08:30] <jussi01> tahsin: is it not in system settings->appearance->icons ?
[08:31] <tahsin> its a .tar.bz2 file
[08:31] <scar> what about shockwave? thanks tho
[08:31] <tahsin> jussi01: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/OS-L?content=16564 this is the icon theme
[08:32] <dregorth> scar: np. never tried shockwave. i guess all i can suggest is search the forums if you haven't already and look around for info about doing that with shockwave
[08:32] <jussi01> tahsin: so untar it (double click), and follow the instructions
[08:32] <dregorth> scar: i don't think shockwave allows that tho
[08:32] <jussi01> !tar
[08:32] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[08:32] <tahsin> jussi01: ok
[08:33] <jussi01> I have to go, bbl
[08:33] <lenny> do you know another colour-picker (for kubuntu of course) to replace the colorzilla add-on for firefox?
[08:34] <dregorth> kcya jussi01
[08:38] <tj__> i have just installed kubuntu my video card is an old trident i need to know how to edit the resolution and color manually i guess
[08:39] <Cavallek> hi
[08:40] <tj__> hi cavallek how are u
[08:40] <Cavallek> how I can add a shortcut of smb place to my desktop or somewhere. Like a network mapping in windows. IS this possible ? And how I can make that I will see this when "Open file dialog" appers
[08:41] <titanix88> tj_: old trident means :?
[08:41] <titanix88> Cavallek:
[08:41] <Cavallek> tj__, fine, tnx :)
[08:41] <tj__> trident video card (sucks really bad) i need to lower the coler setting i'm getting crazy artifacts
[08:41] <Cavallek> titanix88, yes ?
[08:43] <trakinas> hey!
[08:43] <tj__>  hi
[08:44] <trakinas> I've just installed Kubuntu and made a mistake... I forgot to include my /home partition on the fstab. is there any way to add it without having to re-install?
[08:44] <titanix88> helloo, everybody!!!!!
[08:44] <trakinas> titanix88: hello
[08:45] <trakinas> and I was also a gnome usr, and loved 2 things on it: change desktops with control+arrow and apps being shown on the painel only in which desktop it was sent/open
[08:46] <trakinas> about the /home/ partition. It is detected and mounted on /media/, but I'd like it to be mounted on /home/
[08:47] <titanix88> trakinas: mount it by editing fstab in some place like /media/home & you will find an option in your user configuration in kcontrolcenter. set your home to /media/home
[08:47] <defrysk> trakinas, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[08:47] <defrysk> maybe it helps
[08:49] <trakinas> defrysk: thank you!! btw, i dont need to be root to edit fstab????
[08:51] <trakinas> what about KDE painel?
[08:52] <tj__> when is it kosher to repost your question
[08:52] <KevinAlaska> Question here (not that it is a shocker!)   But why would my "KDM Theme Manager" not have an "Administrator Mode" button located anywhere?  :S
[08:52] <ice9> hmm
[08:52] <tj__> kevinalaska not in bottom right corner
[08:53] <KevinAlaska> nope nope.. not like the other areas.. =/
[08:53] <tj__> wierd
[08:53] <tahsin> can anyone help me with ./biludset
[08:54] <KevinAlaska> your not supposed to say that!  you only supposed to first "SLAP!" me and say stupid.   Its right there in the bottom corner and I look and "do'h!" there it is and feeling stupid.. thats whats supposed to happen... didn't you get that memo!?
[08:54] <defcon> im having problems, for some reason my permissions in my home folder are screwed up, kde keeps telling me to chmod 644 .dmrc and I do that, when I log on and do that and then log off my permissions are screwed up again
[08:54] <defcon> I dont know why this happens
[08:55] <tj__> dude i constantly make those kind of mistakes
[08:55] <tj__> at alaska
[08:55] <KevinAlaska> maybe uninstall KDM Theme Manager and reinstall?
[08:55] <tahsin> !buildset
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildset - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:55] <defcon> also, how do I set my permissions to keep users out of my account and have kde be able to use them
[08:55] <tahsin> !./buildset
[08:55] <defcon> me?
[08:56] <KevinAlaska> tahsin, who?
[08:56] <KevinAlaska> :)
[08:56] <Cavallek> is possible to show in kmenu just apps from kde and not also form gnome ? and vice versa of course
[08:56] <defcon> should I uninstall kdm theme manager?
[08:57] <tahsin> kevinalaska: can u help me with baghira ...im trying to install an icon theme
[08:57] <KevinAlaska> oh.. no.. KDE Theme Manager is the problem I am having.. :)
[08:57] <tj__> can anyone tell me how to manually change my screen resolution and color rate
[08:57] <tj__> editing xorg.cong?
[08:57] <KevinAlaska> oh.. sorry friend.... dumbass behind this keyboard.. everyone stand back before I hurt someone besides myself. :S
[08:58] <trakinas> haha
[08:58] <tahsin> lol
[08:58] <jack> !remote x11
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote x11 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <jack> !x11 remote
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about x11 remote - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <jack> !x11
[08:58] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:58] <tj__> i 've taken 4 sleeping pill and smoking weed i may be out before i get an answer
[08:59] <KevinAlaska> heh.. YEAH WEED!
[08:59] <KevinAlaska> doh.. did i just type that?
[08:59] <jack> anyone around with a clue about remote x11 connections on kubuntu-feisty? :x
[09:00] <jack> there's a login window prefs thing in gnome, but i cant find that in kde
[09:00] <tj__> hey alaska its legal to keep in your house right?
[09:00] <KevinAlaska> yep.. 1 plant and up to 4 oz I think
[09:00] <tj__> awesome i moving
[09:01] <carutsu> how can i report a fix?
[09:01] <KevinAlaska> lol
[09:01] <carutsu> i mean i had a small problem with thunderbird and i want to share it
[09:01] <carutsu> XD
[09:01] <carutsu> might save time to others
[09:01] <tahsin> !kdesu
[09:01] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:01] <tj__> thanks ubotu
[09:01] <tj__> i'm trying it now
[09:02] <carutsu> xD
[09:02] <carutsu> !ubotu| tj__
[09:02] <ubotu> tj__: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:02] <trakinas> changing desktops done...
[09:03] <trakinas> now, showing on the bar only the apps for each desktop.
[09:04] <jussi01> trakinas: to show on the task bar only the windows from one desktop, right click on the taskbbar, configure taskbar and it shoud be in there
[09:06] <tahsin> jussi01: what is ./buildset command for ?
[09:06] <jussi01> tahsin: it compiles the iconset, why?
[09:07] <tahsin> jussi01: i need to compile an icon set
[09:07] <KevinAlaska> FRICKEN MOSQUITOES!  They are so big here.  I hate them with a serious SERIOUS passion! :(
[09:07] <tahsin> jussi01: its a .tar.bz2 file
[09:07] <trakinas> where are you?? Alaska?
[09:07] <jussi01> tahsin: yes, did you untar it?
[09:07] <tahsin> jussi01: yes i did then ?
[09:08] <jussi01> go to terminal, cd to the directory you untarred it to the ./buildset
[09:08] <tahsin> can i press f4 from that folder ?
[09:08] <tahsin> jussi01: then ?
[09:09] <jussi01> tahsin: yeah
[09:09] <tahsin> jussi01: http://baghira.sourceforge.net/OS_Clone-en.php#step4 can you please take a look at that
[09:09] <tahsin> jussi01: im a newbie
[09:10] <tahsin> jussi01: can you please direct me in a easier way ?
[09:11] <jussi01> tahsin: you need to move the folder into the directory the said. ~/.kde/share/icons/ directory
[09:11] <tj__> ubotu rocks thanks alot!! :)
[09:11] <KevinAlaska> trakinas, yes alaskan interior
[09:11] <jussi01> tahsin: did you unzip there?
[09:11] <tahsin> jussi01: how do i do that?
[09:11] <tahsin> jussi01: how do i move it ?
[09:12] <tj__> amd alaska i still moving we'll see u soon :p
[09:12] <tj__> ha
[09:12] <KevinAlaska> lol...
[09:12] <tj__> later ya;ll
[09:12] <jussi01> gah tahsin I have to run, I m sorry, Ill be back in a hile, hopefully someone can help you
[09:12] <jussi01> s/hile/while
[09:12] <tj__> except for the damn feds!
[09:12] <KevinAlaska> so tj_, where you from?
[09:12] <tahsin> jussi01: okay thanks
[09:13] <jussi01> !offtopic | KevinAlaska
[09:13] <ubotu> KevinAlaska: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:13] <tj__> i'm from georgia help me
[09:13] <tj__> worst state in the union imho
[09:13] <KevinAlaska> :( okay sleep well
[09:14] <tj__> cept south carolina
[09:14] <tahsin> do you guy know where i am from ? :d
[09:14] <tj__> see ya
[09:14] <tj__> no
[09:14] <tahsin> way way way far away
[09:14] <KevinAlaska> anyone know if there are any problems that come from uninstalling "KDE Theme Manager" then reinstalling it via "Adept Installer"?
[09:14] <tj__> that is the point of the internet
[09:15] <tahsin> yeah
[09:15] <tahsin> im from bangladesh
[09:15] <tj__> wow
[09:15] <tahsin> its 1:15pm here
[09:15] <tj__> that is pretty nuts
[09:15] <dregorth> 12:15am here
[09:15] <dregorth> hehe
[09:15] <tahsin> yeah
[09:15] <tj__> : am here
[09:15] <KevinAlaska> nice. 11pm here
[09:15] <crimsun> tj__: err, no, that egregious honor belongs to west virginia.
[09:16] <tj__> ha
[09:16] <tahsin> how old are you all ?
[09:16] <tj__> 24
[09:16] <dregorth> 21
[09:16] <neonlinux> hey, got a friend who wants to install kubuntu and dual boot with winxp.. his setup is an nvidia chipset.. sata doing raid 1 on the boot partitions.. we installed winxp.. then kubuntu, using kubuntu to partition the drive for the swap, root and home, and when it went to do the format it complained of an error on the winxp drive, we ignored it, and when it finished we booted into kubuntu fine, but
[09:16] <tahsin> im 18
[09:16] <neonlinux> then winxp bluescreened when we tried to boot that
[09:16] <tahsin> what do you guys do ?
[09:17] <neonlinux> managed to start it in safe mode and then winxp did a disk ckeck.. it fixed errors, and wiped the mbr
[09:17] <neonlinux> doing a re-install does the same thing
[09:17] <tj__> salesman
[09:17] <neonlinux> complains of an error. we ignor and windows has issued
[09:17] <neonlinux> issues
[09:17] <tj__> street rx
[09:17] <tj__> just kidding
[09:17] <tahsin> lol
[09:18] <tj__> used to be
[09:18] <neonlinux> any ideas on how i can fix this
[09:18] <tahsin> and now ?
[09:18] <KevinAlaska> windows should be installed first then linux
[09:18] <tj__> salesman
[09:18] <sanelson_> amarok is running the "install mp3 support" and has been for about 10 mins
[09:18] <neonlinux> and do i need to have linux making a software raid (instead of seeing a raid device it sees the drives as they are (bypassing the raid)
[09:18] <tahsin> yup i also got windows
[09:18] <sanelson_> is this "normal"?
[09:19] <sanelson_> should I leave it longer? or kill it?
[09:19] <tahsin> sanelson_: no its not normal it took 1-2 min for me
[09:19] <tj__> i'm booting xp pro, vista ultimate,ubuntu and still  loving ubuntu
[09:19] <tj__> eyeing osx86
[09:19] <tahsin> why cant linux make a user friendly version
[09:19] <tj__> ubuntu
[09:20] <KevinAlaska> they are getting there fast.
[09:20] <tj__> can't get much better then that
[09:20] <tahsin> yeah
[09:20] <neonlinux> i installed winxp first
[09:20] <tahsin> linux is still a lot complicated for newbies
[09:20] <tj__> neon thats what ur supposd to do
[09:21] <dregorth> tahsin: well, the main thing is that it takes effort
[09:21] <neonlinux> in trying to recover grub  (without re-installing the kubuntu install) it made windows bluescreen again
[09:21] <dregorth> tahsin: and it depends on whether you want to put in that effort or not hehe
[09:21] <tahsin> dregorth: your right but how many of the normal peeps have that much of time
[09:21] <trakinas> tahsin: that depends on. a complete n00b having it first contact witha computer on a linux or on any other os makesno difference at all.
[09:22] <neonlinux> and then when it recovered windows it did a disk check.. found problems and fixed them (then it renamed all the drives and wouldnt boot at all)
[09:22] <tj__> neon sorry but i would start over and make sureu didn't miss somethin
[09:22] <trakinas> a semi-newbie it does, since it has som habits aquired in the other os.
[09:22] <neonlinux> tj__: i know.. i have it working on my system fine... bearly use windows anymore.
[09:22] <trakinas> and i still want to show only on app per desktop. :/
[09:23] <tahsin> where are you all from ?
[09:23] <trakinas> I use only linux since august 2005
[09:23] <neonlinux> the only problem i can see is the thought of windows doing the origional partitioning
[09:23] <tj__> use virtual box to get seamless xp in linux
[09:23] <jussi01> tahsin: im back
[09:23] <tahsin> cool :d
[09:23] <tahsin> jussi01: gr8
[09:23] <trakinas> debian - gentoo (loved) and now, for smth complete different, Im playing with Kubuntu
[09:23] <dregorth> tahsin: not everyone does heh
[09:23] <jussi01> so tahsin where were we?
[09:23] <tahsin> jussi01: now how do i move the file that i downloaded
[09:23] <amachu> hi
[09:24] <trakinas> tahsin: brazil
[09:24] <amachu> i would like to have list of all applications included in Kubuntu
[09:24] <jussi01> tahsin: open up 2 koqueror's
[09:24] <amachu> where can i have it?
[09:24] <tj__> i'm a complete noob and i found fiesty ubuntu easy
[09:24] <tahsin> then
[09:24] <neonlinux> tj__: would love to suggest he use parallels for running xp in linux.. but he still wants to play games
[09:24] <jussi01> make sure hidden files are shown
[09:24] <trakinas> http://pastebin.ca/513386
[09:24] <dregorth> tj__: complete linux noob or to computers in general?
[09:25] <tahsin> jussi01: then
[09:25] <jussi01> tahsin: in one open where you have the folder
[09:25] <trakinas> I dont play games on computer anymore. since i stoped playing starcraft, wa and gunbound.
[09:25] <tj__> yep ur right abotu that u could try to reinstall the mbr off the xp disc then restore grub
[09:25] <jussi01> tahsin: patience, im typing
[09:25] <tahsin> jussi01: hehe ok
[09:25] <trakinas> I stick with emulators though.. and my consoles. ;] 
[09:25] <hyper_ch> tj__: feisty is easy... it's just different to Windoze or Mac... and when you are accustomed to either one you always have trouble switching because you think everything should be the same
[09:26] <tj__> thats fur sure
[09:26] <hendaus> helpers can anyone help me please!
[09:26] <hyper_ch> trakinas: SC 2 should come out in the fall
[09:26] <jussi01> tahsin: in the other put  ~/.kde/share/icons/ in the address bar
[09:26] <hyper_ch> !question | hendaus
[09:26] <ubotu> hendaus: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:26] <tahsin> jussi01: did that
[09:26] <neonlinux> tj__: i still play... but for starcraft i use wine.. and usually only play fps's that run on linux (doom3, quake 3, 4, ut, et)
[09:26] <trakinas> anyone? http://pastebin.ca/513386 (in case the paste bin hasnt been noticed). I was trying to install Java SDK
[09:26] <makuseru> hendaus: whats the problem?
[09:26] <jussi01> tahsin: then drag and drop like in windows...
[09:26] <amachu> trakinas: whats the prblem?
[09:26] <tj__> i've used windows for most my life but i didn't not find ubuntu easy
[09:26] <tj__> i mean i did'
[09:26] <hendaus> makuseru:  sa7alnoum has been stopped with the following error,cannot open /home/hendaus/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor1/cache/07.DAT, permision denied
[09:26] <tahsin> jussi01: oh that was easy
[09:27] <trakinas> hyper_ch: yep! I know. but my computer cant play N64 emulator. guess it wont pla sc 2
[09:27] <jussi01> tahsin: :D
[09:27] <trakinas> *play
[09:27] <hyper_ch> tj__: then you are an exception :)
[09:27] <makuseru> hendaus: what ever your trying to run run it with sudo
[09:27] <trakinas> amachu: it is on the paste bin. it simple stopped downloading and installing the deb pack
[09:27] <tj__> maybe so i do understand completely the problems people have
[09:27] <hendaus> makuseru:  i am using ktorrent
[09:27] <jussi01> tahsin: now, go to the place where you dragged ot, and press f4
[09:27] <tj__> it is very diff then windows
[09:28] <jussi01> then type ./buildset
[09:28] <makuseru> hendaus: you told me the error, but whats the proble, what are you trying to do?
[09:28] <tj__> no doubt
[09:28] <trakinas> tj__: it is suppoded to be different. :] 
[09:28] <neonlinux> anyway.. later all.. ill keep thinking about the problem
[09:28] <makuseru> hendaus: just download somthing?
[09:28] <hyper_ch> tj__: and thats where people think ubuntu/linux is hard... because it is different
[09:28] <tahsin> jussi01:
[09:28] <tahsin> tahsin@tahsin-desktop:~/.kde/share/icons$ ./buildset
[09:28] <tahsin> bash: ./buildset: No such file or directory
[09:28] <trakinas> later.
[09:28] <tj__> i know and i love it :)
[09:28] <jussi01> tahsin: sorry do: cd OS-L-IconSet-Buildkit
[09:28] <jussi01> first
[09:28] <tj__> i like a little challenge
[09:28] <trakinas> Im leaving as soon as i can keep installing Java SDK
[09:28] <sebbar> hi, are there any alternatives to wengophone which I can use to connect to my wengophone account?
[09:29] <jussi01> sebbar: is it a sip account?
[09:29] <hendaus> makuseru:  i am uploading a torrent on a website, and after i make scanning this torrent it shows this error message
[09:29] <jussi01> if so ekiga should do it - its in the rpos
[09:29] <chuen> Morning. Can anyone help me with a 'boot' problem?
[09:29] <tj__> maybe
[09:29] <tahsin> tahsin@tahsin-desktop:~/.kde/share/icons$ cd OS-L-IconSet-Buildkit
[09:29] <tahsin> bash: cd: OS-L-IconSet-Buildkit: No such file or directory
[09:29] <tahsin> tahsin@tahsin-desktop:~/.kde/share/icons$
[09:29] <hendaus> makuseru:  do u know how can i open a permision for file 07.DAT?
[09:30] <hyper_ch> tj__: most people don't like challenges ;)
[09:30] <makuseru> hendaus: is sounds like it dosnt haver permission to do it, im not quite sure, sorry i cant help
[09:30] <trakinas> chuen: just ask
[09:30] <jussi01> tahsin pastebin me the output of: dir
[09:30] <jussi01> !permissions | hendaus
[09:30] <ubotu> hendaus: The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[09:30] <sebbar> ok, I'll check out ekiga then
[09:30] <jussi01> sebbar: :D
[09:31] <tj__> thats very true i did set up ubuntu for my grandmother and she love it hasn't even asked me a question yet it was the christina edition
[09:31] <tahsin> jussi01:http://www.pastebin.ca/513402
[09:31] <trakinas> can I just cancel the jdk installation?
[09:31] <wolfera> christina edition ? :) some nice videos of x-tina on there? ;)
[09:31] <chuen> OK. This has occured (oddly) since I installed GDE. I get the kernel listed, grub, then everything stops at 'boot'. The only way I can actually boot is to do so manually by using 'escape' to enter the menu to select the kernel version I want.
[09:31] <tahsin> jussi01:http://www.pastebin.ca/513406
[09:32] <chuen> Does that explanation make any sense?
[09:32] <jussi01> tahsin: type:  dir and press enter...
[09:32] <jussi01> then pastebin that
[09:32] <tj__> christian edition sorry
[09:33] <tj__> she loves it for her church stuff
[09:33] <jussi01> !offtopic | tj__
[09:33] <ubotu> tj__: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:33] <tahsin> jussi01:http://www.pastebin.ca/513409
[09:34] <KevinAlaska> okay... which file do you use to select to install a theme in KDE Theme Manager? :S
[09:34] <dregorth> i was thinking of having my dad use the christian edition hehe
[09:34] <tj__> tattle tell i'm leaving anyway good night :P
[09:34] <tj__> its a good edition
[09:34] <jack> anyone around with a clue about remote x11 connections on kubuntu-feisty? :x
[09:34] <tj__> i was surprised
[09:34] <jack> there's a login window prefs thing in gnome, but i cant find that in kde
[09:34] <dregorth> seems like it'll fit my dad perfectly
[09:35] <tj__> later
[09:35] <dregorth> you leavin?
[09:35] <chuen> Anyone?
[09:35] <tahsin> jussi01: oh dam momz calling i gotta go
[09:35] <tahsin> jussi01: can i have ur msn add ?
[09:35] <hyper_ch> tj__: the less someone knows about windoze the easier it is, in my experience, to hook them up with ubuntu... my mom also uses feisty now... I had quite a lot of support to do the first two weeks but since then (that was during x-mas / new year) she had 2 or 3 issues... a lot less than with windoze
[09:35] <jussi01> tahsin: no, but im here quite often, drop by and see
[09:36] <tahsin> jussi01: oh that cool then see ya
[09:36] <jussi01> tahsin: bye
[09:37] <tj__> hyper your a very right abotu that
[09:37] <trakinas> brb
[09:37] <trakinas> reboot
[09:39] <KevinAlaska> well folks.. I am off like a wild herd of turtles.. take good care
[09:44] <jack> anyone around with a clue about remote x11 connections on kubuntu-feisty? :x
[09:44] <jack> there's a login window prefs thing in gnome, but i cant find that in kde
[09:45] <jack> (and no, i dont want NX, VNC, ssh -X or -Y..i want plain old x11 remote connections)
[09:46] <trakinas> damn!
[09:47] <trakinas> apdept is stucked.
[09:47] <trakinas> it keep saying the bd is being used by other app. :/
[09:47] <trakinas> any help?
[09:48] <dre|lappy> i think you'll need to kill any running processes that say "adept" but i could be wrong. anyone have any ideas?
[09:48] <jussi01> trakinas: you have synaptic or something open?
[09:48] <trakinas> sudo ps -A | grep adept shows nothing
[09:48] <jussi01> or ^
[09:48] <trakinas> jussi01: not that i know...
[09:48] <jussi01> you could try deleting the lock file....
[09:48] <jussi01> but be careful with that...
[09:49] <trakinas> and where is it?
[09:49] <trakinas> I made shit... cause i thought it was frozen, ut there were a window behind adept. so i close it and after that i saw sun agreement window. them the shit was done. heehhe
[09:50] <jussi01> !omg | trakinas
[09:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about omg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:50] <jussi01> :P
[09:50] <jussi01> gah
[09:50] <jussi01> !language
[09:50] <trakinas> hahhahaha
[09:50] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:50] <trakinas> sorry
[09:50] <jussi01> but good for you
[09:50] <trakinas> but it is the only why to label what i did. =(
[09:50] <jussi01> they took the factoid down...
[09:51] <trakinas> I ALWAYS screw apt systems. ahaha
[09:51] <jussi01> lol
[09:51] <jack> anyone around with a clue about remote x11 connections on kubuntu-feisty? :x
[09:51] <jack> there's a login window prefs thing in gnome, but i cant find that in kde
[09:51] <trakinas> now, seriously. where's the damn file?
[09:51] <trakinas> jack: kdm prefs, probably.
[09:52] <trakinas> !remote desktop
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remote desktop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <jussi01> jack: alt+f2 kcontrol i think
[09:52] <jussi01> i gotta run
[09:52] <jack> i edited kdmrc, removed the -nolisten tcp and rebooted
[09:52] <jussi01> bye
[09:52] <jack> but thx
[09:52] <trakinas> cheers
[09:52] <trakinas> so. anyone can tell me where i locate this locked file?
[09:53] <fdoving> jack: what is your goal? connect to kdm on computer1 from computer2?
[09:53] <jack> not to kdm, to xorg
[09:53] <jack> but yes, exactly
[09:53] <jack> without ssh
[09:53] <billy> I have kind of an odd problem: I'm using VLC to watch DVDs on a dual monitor system, but when I go to fullscreen, it always fullscreens on the wrong monitor. does anyone know of a way to switch monitors in fullscreen mode or (ideally) play the movie on both monitors?
[09:53] <dre|lappy> trakinas: can't think of where it is off top of my head. sorry
[09:53] <fdoving> jack, wouldn't nx or vnc be ok?
[09:54] <jack> no.
[09:54] <jack> :)
[09:54] <jack> i need the ancient thing x11 still can do
[09:54] <jack> remote connectivity
[09:54] <fdoving> jack, so, what is the problem exactly?
[09:54] <trakinas> np
[09:54] <jack> i can telnet in to port 6000 locally, so xorg is actually listening
[09:55] <jack> but not from another box on the lan
[09:55] <jack> tried xhost +
[09:55] <fdoving> jack, might want to have a look at: /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc, if you haven't removed the -nolisten tcp from there.
[09:55] <jack> did that, too :)
[09:55] <trakinas> try another reboot. brb
[09:55] <dre|lappy> k
[09:55] <jack> but thats only applied if i launch X manually, anyway..but i did it
[09:56] <jack> kdmrc is ok too
[09:56] <jack> fdoving: what could be missing..
[09:57] <ubuntu> *http://www.google.com/intl/fr/
[09:57] <fdoving> jack, what changes did you do to kdmrc ?
[09:57] <jack> only removed the -nolisten tcp from the xorg-args line
[09:57] <fdoving> jack, you need to remove the # infront of: Port, KeyFile, Xaccess and Willing.
[09:58] <jack> ohh
[09:58] <fdoving> jack, where those are keys with values.
[09:58] <jack> thanks :)
[09:59] <jack> fdoving: you're actually the first one with any idea what a plain x11 connection is
[09:59] <fdoving> jack, then you need to edit /etc/kde3/kdm/Xaccess to your liking. usually you want to uncomment the #* line
[09:59] <jack> booting kubuntu ..one sec
[09:59] <jack> ok :)
[09:59] <fdoving> jack: actually, for the Xaccess file, i recommend to read the comments and uncomment the line that does what you want.
[10:00] <jack> sure
[10:00] <jack> but fdoving: there's no NAT, its a pure lan box
[10:00] <jack> so there are no holes i need to keep an eye on
[10:01] <dregorth> wb titanix88
[10:01] <fdoving> jack, then i guess: #* #any host can get a login window , and #
[10:01] <titanix88> dregorth: thnx
[10:01] <fdoving>  #*  CHOOSER BROADCAST  #any indirect host can get a chooser
[10:01] <fdoving> could be uncommented.
[10:02] <jack> yup, done
[10:02] <fdoving> then restart kdm.
[10:02] <dregorth> :)
[10:02] <fdoving> and hope it works.
[10:02] <fdoving> it's been a while since i played with xdmcp.
[10:03] <jack> :)
[10:04] <jack> hrm, my kdmrc doesnt have KeyFile etc
[10:04] <jack> wrong file?
[10:04] <fdoving> jack, one more thing [Xdmcp]  \n Enable=true
[10:05] <fdoving> jack, no, just skip it if it's not there.
[10:05] <jack> yup, thats done
[10:05] <jack> ok
[10:05] <jack> how do i restart my kdm again? SIGHUP?
[10:05] <fdoving> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[10:05] <jack> thx
[10:06] <dregorth> trakinas: any luck?
[10:06] <trakinas> nops
[10:06] <dregorth> mmm
[10:07] <trakinas> read a topic on ubuntu forums. it says smth close to this. looking for a .list file.
[10:08] <dregorth> lemme see if i can find something for ya
[10:08] <trakinas> thaks
[10:08] <dregorth> np
[10:09] <trakinas> ha! it is good to be an ex debian user... i think i had an idea,,,, dpkg --configure -a
[10:09] <trakinas> heck yes!
[10:10] <dregorth> lol
[10:10] <dregorth> nice goin
[10:10] <dregorth> :D
[10:10] <trakinas> worked
[10:11] <dregorth> good good
[10:11] <trakinas> now i can go to bed
[10:11] <dregorth> hehe
[10:11] <dregorth> night
[10:12] <trakinas> night! (almost morning)
[10:13] <iarwain_> anyone know what's up with aMsn and the last updates? Can't get it working no more, this is what i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22657/
[10:17] <iarwain_> no one? ;o
[10:17] <dregorth> nope
[10:18] <dregorth> don't use it sorry
[10:18] <iarwain_> damn xD
[10:18] <iarwain_> lol, i'd rather use it =)
[10:18] <dregorth> :P
[10:20] <defcon_> what are some ways to optimize application start times in ubuntu?
[10:21] <hyper_ch> def
[10:21] <hyper_ch> defcon_: what applicatons are you referring to?
[10:21] <defcon_> hyper_ch, like firefox etc
[10:21] <hyper_ch> for firefox... use swiftfox
[10:21] <defcon_> for some reason things load faster in windows 95 than ubuntu
[10:21] <defcon_> lol
[10:21] <jack> fdoving: still no workie
[10:21] <jack> :x
[10:21] <defcon_> swiftfox is good?
[10:22] <defcon_> whats the difference, I noticed nothing
[10:22] <jack> doubt its related to xdmcp
[10:22] <fdoving> jack, ok, revert your changes to kdmrc, and set only [Xdmcp]  Enabled=true, comment the rest away.
[10:22] <jack> ok
[10:23] <Maruko> hi people, I am on kubuntu feisty and I cannot get compiz running
[10:23] <Maruko> can anybody help me?
[10:24] <jack> fdoving: done
[10:24] <jermain> hi everyone ^^
[10:24] <jack> restarting
[10:24] <fdoving> jack, then restart kdm and try again, how do you query?
[10:24] <jermain> can someone tell me how to display the size of a folder in bash?
[10:25] <ardchoille> jermain: df -h /dolfername
[10:25] <jack> fdoving: by trying a simple "kolf" on the remote box, with DISPLAY set to 192.168.1.7:0.0
[10:25] <ardchoille> */foldername
[10:25] <jermain> :) ty ardchoille
[10:26] <jack> (works perfectly with DISPLAY set to cygwinpc-ip:0.0)
[10:26] <ardchoille> jermain: Although that doesn't work here, it's what someone else told me to do.
[10:26] <ardchoille> jermain: If you can get that to work corectly, let me know please.
[10:26] <jermain> i will :)
[10:28] <jermain> ardchoille: it worked but it ignores the foldername and displays info on hdc1
[10:29] <jack> fdoving: still the same
[10:29] <jack> port 6000 is open locally, but not from outside
[10:29] <ardchoille> jermain: Yeah, that's what I meant.
[10:29] <fdoving> jack, might want to try 'Xnest -query localhost :1' on the box with xdmcp enabled.
[10:29] <alan_> ?
[10:29] <alan_> hello
[10:30] <jack> ok
[10:30] <alan_> how to make my dsl online all the time
[10:30] <alan_> how to make my dsl online all the time
[10:30] <alan_> how to make my dsl online all the time
[10:30] <jermain> Alan take it easy :)
[10:30] <jermain> im no pro but maybe i can help
[10:30] <jon_> !ubotu
[10:30] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:30] <ardchoille> alan_: Doing that is just going to get you put on /ignore
[10:31] <jermain> what do you mean all by the time?
[10:31] <jermain> do you get disconnected a lot?
[10:31] <jack> fdoving: doesnt work..
[10:31] <jack> did i mention already that box has no screen?
[10:32] <jack> and xnest cant connect to the kubuntu xserver either
[10:33] <fdoving> jack, well, i don't know, this might help you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80044 - http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/XDMCP
[10:33] <jack> thanks
[10:33] <jermain> ardchoille: i got it
[10:33] <jermain> replace ' df'  with ' du'
[10:33] <daminator> hi! where can i enlist programms which shall start automatically with kubuntu?
[10:35] <daminator> the last step of the beryl tutorial is, that i set "/usr/bin/startberyl.sh" as a startscript. but where? the tutorial sais setting>sessions>autostart but i can't locate this :/
[10:35] <alan_> how to make my dsl online all the time
[10:35] <fdoving> !autostart | daminator
[10:35] <ubotu> daminator: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[10:36] <alan_> how to make my dsl online all the time
[10:36] <alan_> ?
[10:36] <fdoving> alan_: how do you connect?
[10:36] <alan_> anyone can help me
[10:36] <alan_> adsl
[10:36] <fdoving> alan_: what do you do to connect?
[10:36] <alan_> ADSL i know pppoeconf
[10:36] <alan_> but
[10:37] <alan_> need always type
[10:37] <alan_> how to make my dsl online all the time
[10:37] <ardchoille> jermain: Ah, thanks
[10:38] <jermain> :)
[10:38] <alan_> How to make my ADSL online all the time?
[10:38] <ardchoille> !patience alan_
[10:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about patience alan_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:39] <fdoving> !repeat | alan_
[10:39] <ubotu> alan_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:39] <ardchoille> !patience | alan_
[10:39] <ubotu> alan_: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:39] <ardchoille> fdoving: Thanks :)
[10:39] <jon_> alan_: pls explain what you want
[10:39] <ardchoille> I suppose I really should sleep sometime this week, lol
[10:39] <alan_> ok sorry
[10:39] <jermain> hehe, i feel awesome slept for over 10 hours
[10:39] <jermain> I'm like a recharged battery
[10:40] <root> whois alan_
[10:41] <root> i'm sorry
[10:43] <jermain> alan, what do you type go online?
[10:45] <alan_> me go online through adsl
[10:45] <alan_> pppoe
[10:45] <alan_> and sorry for late reply
 alan, what do you type go online?
[10:45] <jack> maybe read the question again
[10:45] <jack> and answer
[10:46] <jermain> =3 okay
[10:47] <jermain> i thought that if he had to activate it in bash all the time
[10:47] <jermain> he might aswell type it in
[10:48] <jermain> argh whats that file called again -.-
[10:48] <alan_> me type online pppoeconf
[10:49] <jermain> okay i'm not sure if this is a good thing to do:
[10:49] <jermain> what if you typed that line in .bashrc?
[10:49] <jon_> how much is usenet still used today?
[10:54] <daminator> i've done this tutorial (http://www.ubuntufreunde.de/forum/thread.php?postid=5542). when i use XGL as session, after some seconds there is a black screen. i also can't change to any console (controll alt f1, f2...). i tried to  make beryl work and i have an ati card. maybe somebody can help? thx :)
[11:01] <nagyv> Hello! I tried to switch to (g)ubuntu, but now I am back to my good old kubuntu. Sorry, for my deviation. :) But I have a problem: my kubuntu does not recognised the laptop's quickbuttons. What should I run to recognize them?
[11:02] <alansii> can anyone help me how to have the permission to install program
[11:03] <pag> alansii, sudo ?
[11:03] <alansii> alan, sudo? what its mean
[11:03] <pag> !sudo
[11:03] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:07] <alansii> thank you
[11:15] <ubuntu> HELLO
[11:15] <defrysk> !caps
[11:15] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:16] <ubuntu> WHO COME for china
[11:18] <ubuntu> fuck
[11:18] <defcon> ?
[11:18] <ubuntu> dsf
[11:18] <defrysk> !ops
[11:18] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal
[11:19] <gnomefreak> defrysk: ?
[11:19] <gnomefreak> nvm
[11:19] <defrysk> brb
[11:19] <defrysk> sorry
[11:35] <jussi01> !it | koalalorenzo
[11:35] <ubotu> koalalorenzo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:35] <koalalorenzo> sorry
[11:38] <codename_> hi
[11:38] <codename_> can i ask a question
[11:38] <nahemoth> need help for Kdevelop?
[11:38] <nahemoth> I can't include the header files
[11:39] <codename_> is there any programs for Kubuntu were it automatically installs Nvidia Drivers for me
[11:39] <codename_> ?
[11:39] <codename_> anyone there
[11:40] <alansii> how can i have a root permission to copy my file to /bin
[11:40] <alansii> anyone there?
[11:40] <pag> alansii, sudo cp /path/to/your/file /bin
[11:41] <alansii> just type like this?
[11:41] <alansii> sudo cp /path/to/your/file /bin
[11:41] <alansii> sudo cp /path/to/your/file /bin
[11:41] <pag> alansii, well... the path to your file must be correct... i.e. /home/alansii/MyFile  or something like that
[11:42] <nahemoth> codename go to adept manager and type nvidia, there you will see some alternatives, and choose the best one for your device and install it
[11:42] <codename_> does Envy work on Kubuntu
[11:43] <codename_> nahemoth does Envy work for Kubuntu
[11:43] <jussi01> codename_: yes
[11:44] <codename_> whats the termnial command to open up Envy?
[11:44] <codename_> anyone know
[11:45] <nahemoth> I have no idea :)
[11:47] <jussi01> codename_: i think its just envy ....
[11:49] <codename_> hey jussi
[11:49] <codename_> what version of Envy
[11:49] <codename_> should i get man
[11:49] <codename_> Im a noob a Kubuntu
[11:49] <jussi01> codename_: are you using ati or nvidia?
[11:49] <codename_> Nvidia
[11:50] <codename_> GeForce 6800 Gt
[11:50] <jussi01> http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.4-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[11:50] <jussi01> just download that
[11:51] <codename_> now it says The file http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.4-0ubuntu6_all.deb is a binary, saving it will result in a corrupt file.
[11:52] <codename_> any idea
[11:52] <luca> hi everyone
[11:52] <nahemoth> HOW CAN I COMPILE AND RUN A C PROGRAM?
[11:53] <luca> I have noticed a bug about suspend and the reactivation of the wireless device on my laptop - often after resume wireless will not function
[11:53] <luca> nahemoth: it depends, does the source folder have some cmake files in it?
[11:54] <luca> I have found the relevant syslog entry however I think - can someone help me figure it out?
[11:55] <luca> naemoth_ I cannot send private messages it seems
[11:55] <tahsin> anyone here to help ?
[11:56] <luca> in any case, check the source folder as I said
[11:56] <jussi01> codename_: you need to do we
[11:56] <jussi01> wget -c http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/nvidia/scripts/envy_0.9.4-0ubuntu6_all.deb
[11:56] <tahsin> jussi01: :d
[11:56] <tahsin> jussi01: im back
[11:56] <jussi01> in terminal
[11:56] <jussi01> tahsin: :D
[11:56] <sercik> someone uses imwheel in kubuntu edgy?
[11:57] <luca> nahemoth_ a simple configure / make / make install should do it
[11:57] <tahsin> jussi01: so what do i do now....
[11:57] <jussi01> tahsin: you need to untar that file in the folder you put it into.
[11:58] <luca> nahemoth_ : check in Adept, otherwise...really do not know
[11:58] <tahsin> jussi01: i just extract it on that folder right ?
[11:58] <jussi01> yeah
[11:58] <tahsin> extracting
[11:58] <jussi01> :D
[11:59] <tahsin> jussi01: done
[11:59] <tahsin> jussi01: now ?
[11:59] <tahsin> jussi01: i have a new folder there
[11:59] <jussi01> ok, cd to the newfolder
[11:59] <tahsin> named OS-L-Iconset....
[11:59] <jussi01> then do: ./buildset
[11:59] <nahemoth__> luca you mean, in the folder where I created my c file, you want me to run consol and write "make install xxx.c"
[12:00] <tahsin> u mean i open terminal in that folder?
[12:00] <atidem> hi
[12:00] <tahsin> jussi01: cd means ?
[12:01] <jussi01> tahsin: the command: cd OS-L-Iconset
[12:01] <tahsin> jussi01: i didnt get you
[12:02] <jussi01> tahsin: type in terminal: cd OS-L-Iconset
[12:02] <jussi01> or go to the folder in konquerer and press f4...
[12:03] <tahsin> yeah that better
[12:03] <tahsin> tahsin@tahsin-desktop:~/.kde/share/icons/OS-L-IconSet-Buildkit$
[12:03] <tahsin> im here now
[12:03] <jussi01> now type: ./buildset
[12:03] <tahsin> ok
[12:04] <tahsin> no convert path is found
[12:04] <luca> nahemoth_ yes
[12:04] <tahsin> jussi01: http://www.pastebin.ca/513563
[12:04] <luca> first should be configure
[12:04] <jussi01> gah...I have to take my dog for a walk, back in a whilw
[12:04] <luca> if you have created the configure file
[12:05] <jussi01> tahsin: ^
[12:05] <luca> otherwise I guess make..
[12:05] <tahsin> yes
[12:06] <tahsin> ok
[12:07] <andrej> hello
[12:08] <andrej> czech ?
[12:08] <andrej> in this irc ?
[12:09] <jussi01> tahsin: just before i run, try: sudo apt-get build-essential
[12:09] <jussi01> in terminal, then try again
[12:10] <jussi01> ./buildset
[12:10] <tahsin> jussi01: build-essential is already there
[12:10] <alansii> pag
[12:10] <alansii> are you there
[12:10] <tahsin> jussi01: i did that before
[12:11] <alansii> can you repeat the way to have permission to copy file to /bin
[12:11] <pag> alansii, sudo cp /path/to/your/file /bin
[12:11] <alansii> thanks you
[12:12] <Cryoniq> It seems like that nifty little program in the taskbar that make one choose wireless network and do settings vanished for me.. anyone know what it was called and how to get it back?
[12:12] <mazinga> ciao
[12:13] <Cryoniq> oh btw I mean in kubuntu 7.04
[12:13] <mazinga> avrei bisogno di un piccolo help
[12:14] <Cryoniq> anyone able to check? It handles wired  eth also.. the little icon with the grey cable plug
[12:14] <Cryoniq> !wireless
[12:14] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:15] <mazinga> c qualcuno?
[12:17] <ShadyTree> http://www.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/linux_3x?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs
[12:19] <Nilli> I'm trying to add a new folder to /usr/share/games and sudo won't let me
[12:20] <Nilli> after doing a sudo su and entering the password, I'm still not root according to whoami
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Nilli: than use sudo -i
[12:21] <gnomefreak> user wont be root but you will have a user as root.
[12:22] <Nilli> no error messages, but still won't work
[12:22] <Nilli> also kdesu failed talk with su
[12:22] <daphbobo> i have a problem with usb ntfs disks.. it detects but doesn't mout like usb fat32 disks does.. i have ntfs-config installed
[12:22] <MrC_> hi there fellas
[12:23] <MrC_> what is the best IM for Kubuntu?Kopete or aMSN
[12:23] <Graham> MrC: aMSN is more like MSN but for me it can be quite laggy
[12:24] <Nilli> gnomefreak: think I found it, I put myself in the group users so that nfs permissions would fit well, seems it removed me from all other groups
[12:24] <Graham> Hey, could anybody give me a hand with this video? I'm trying to convert a .avi file to .mpg
[12:24] <Nilli> I'll just put my gentoo disc in and chroot and put a password on root so I can use it whenever I screw up, thanks for the help anyway :)
[12:24] <vidino> hi there , is there a verbose mode on the installer of kubuntu ?
[12:24] <vidino> Installation hangs somewhere, and cant see where
[12:26] <Fahuadai> where can i change my colour theme?
[12:28] <Graham> system settings > appearence
[12:29] <secret> I'm back again. Can somebody help me try and get sound with kubuntu?
[12:30] <secret> no one in the ubuntu forums helped
[12:30] <daphbobo> why doesn't my system mount usb ntfs drives?
[12:30] <Graham> secret: I'll give you a hand.
[12:30] <forcerain> secret: as will I
[12:30] <secret> graham: i have no sound with Kubuntu 7.04
[12:30] <secret> I have realtek
[12:31] <forcerain> secret: open up a console and do sudo lspci
[12:31] <Graham> Can you give me the full name type model of the card?
[12:31] <Graham> I'll go googling.
[12:31] <forcerain> secret: what I just said will get that info ;)
[12:31] <aldin> anyone could help me with mysql? i have user guest and database called guestdb, how can i give all rights on table guestdb to user guest, without giving him rights to see or to use any other databases and tables outside guestdb?
[12:31] <Graham> forcerain: lspci doesn't require sudo
[12:31] <secret> what is this information?
[12:32] <Graham> aldin: Get MySQL administrator, it'll help
[12:32] <secret> I'm new to linux btw, I changed from windowws because too many problems with windows
[12:32] <sercik> Someone can help with this? :smbmnt must be installed suid root
[12:32] <Graham> secret: Basicly it's listing all your computer devices.
[12:32] <secret> ok then
[12:32] <aldin> Graham: i have it, but would like to know it over console, btw sorry guys for offtpic
[12:32] <Graham> Paste the output in #lf_flood
[12:33] <Graham> aldin: Try #mysql
[12:33] <aldin> ok
[12:33] <secret> it's pasted there yes?
[12:34] <Graham> Sorry, I didn't join
[12:34] <Graham> Repost
[12:35] <tahsin> graham can you help me with an icon theme ?
[12:35] <secret> Ok reposted
[12:36] <MrC_> does anyone knows how to format a massive storage (pen-driver or USB stick9?
[12:37] <Graham> tahsin: No.
[12:37] <Graham> secret: Maybe your card id supposrted with OSS?
[12:37] <Graham> Is it a fresh install? Has it worked before?
[12:38] <secret> kubuntu is a fresh install
[12:38] <secret> installed yesterday
[12:38] <secret> hasn't worked before
[12:38] <forcerain> Graham: http://www.4front-tech.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=832&sid=b2fee19cdf19f790ecb5878e3dba3a38
[12:38] <secret> it worked with windows though
[12:38] <Graham> Has it worked on any other Linux distro?
[12:39] <secret> It worked with 6.06
[12:39] <secret> I installed for about a day
[12:39] <secret> once
[12:39] <secret> edge
[12:39] <forcerain> hmmm that's a weird one.. working on edgy eft but not feisty
[12:39] <Graham> Try this: sudo apt-get install alsa-oss
[12:40] <Graham> Infact no.
[12:40] <secret> no?
[12:40] <secret> ok
[12:41] <secret> i cant remember if it worked on edge, sorry. I just remember installing on edge once and I was having difficuties playing an mp3 with amorarik
[12:41] <forcerain> secret: i know
[12:41] <forcerain> secret: try sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[12:42] <secret> ok then
[12:42] <secret>  Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[12:42] <forcerain> doh
[12:43] <secret> FATAL: Module snd_hda_intel is in use.
[12:43] <forcerain> 1 sec
[12:43] <secret> FATAL?
[12:43] <secret> :(
[12:44] <forcerain> ok no problem
[12:44] <forcerain> lets try a forced remove
[12:44] <forcerain> sudo rmmod -f snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[12:44] <secret> ERROR: Removing 'snd_hda_intel': Resource temporarily unavailable
[12:45] <Graham> secret: Have a browse through this: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=ALi&card=.&chip=M1535%2C+M1535D%2C+M1535%2B%2C+M1535D%2B&module=ali5451
[12:45] <Graham> That is all one link you'll have to copy it all.
[12:45] <forcerain> sudo rmmod -w snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stack <-- that'll wait till it becomes available to remove
[12:46] <^RiaN^> hii alll
[12:46] <secret> is there anyway to save this convo to txt file?
[12:46] <staff_> hi <RiaN>
[12:46] <secret> this conversation
[12:47] <ardchoille> secret: You can enable logging. Are you using konversation?
[12:47] <secret> yes
[12:48] <forcerain> or you can ctrl+a then do ctrl+c then open up kwrite and do ctrl+v :)
[12:48] <ardchoille> secret: Settings -> Configure and ahve a look at Behavior -> Logging
[12:48] <forcerain> (Windows-style shortcuts baby yeah!)#
[12:48] <staff_> nvr expecting that there is so many Ubuntu users ..
[12:48] <secret> lol
[12:48] <secret> RROR: Removing 'snd_hda_intel': Device or resource busy
[12:48] <forcerain> doh
[12:49] <staff_> anyone can suggest which software to use for CCTV?
[12:50] <^RiaN^> forcerain: can u help me
[12:51] <forcerain> ^RiaN^: what's up?
[12:51] <^RiaN^> i want use konsole to remote place
[12:51] <cathal> i taugut they fixed the fact that u cant see the root folders when browsing files other than home and media n the latest Kubuntu?
[12:51] <fdoving> ^RiaN^: use ssh.
[12:51] <secret> so what should I do, just go back to windows untill they sort out this realtek problem?
[12:51] <forcerain> ^RiaN^: as in use konsole to access a remote PC?
[12:52] <^RiaN^> the command
[12:52] <fdoving> cathal: yes, that should be fixed.
[12:52] <^RiaN^> i've a cyber cafe
[12:52] <^RiaN^> u know many computer here
[12:52] <ardchoille> cathal: Fixed in my Feisty
[12:52] <fdoving> secret: what realtek problem?
[12:52] <forcerain> ^RiaN^: you'll probably want to look at 'man ssh'
[12:52] <secret> i have no sound with 7.04 (K)ubuntu
[12:52] <forcerain> fdoving: Realtek 660 issue
[12:53] <^RiaN^> ssh and
[12:53] <secret> should I try a format, then reinstall?
[12:53] <forcerain> ^RiaN^: you'll need to read the manpage for it since what you put varies depending on the way things are set up
[12:53] <^RiaN^> forcerain: can u give example command
[12:54] <cathal> fdoving: ardchoille: i didand apt-get upgrade instead of a fresh install, would that have made any difference?
[12:54] <forcerain> ssh test@myremotepc.com
[12:54] <fdoving> cathal: yes, you will have the old settings lying around making problems.
[12:54] <fdoving> !hidden | cathal
[12:54] <ubotu> cathal: Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles . This will be removed in Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[12:55] <forcerain> test being the username and myremotepc.com being the hostname (can also put an IP e.g. 127.0.0.1)
[12:55] <^RiaN^> forcerain: ssh 192.168.0.10 refuse
[12:55] <^RiaN^> can be like that
[12:55] <ardchoille> cathal: I have always done a clean install, never upgrade.
[12:55] <fdoving> secret: did you try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2619760&postcount=8 ?
[12:55] <forcerain> ^RiaN^: is sshd running on that machine?
[12:56] <cathal> fdoving: the thing is i changed it to unhide them in edgy, why revert after upgrade
[12:56] <^RiaN^> forcerain:  i want to go to ws 10 with ip 192.168.0.10
[12:56] <^RiaN^> forcerain:  i want to go to ws-10 with ip 192.168.0.10
[12:56] <forcerain> is the error message something like this "ssh: connect to host foo port 22: Connection refused" ?
[12:56] <secret> ERROR: Removing 'snd_hda_intel': Device or resource busy
[12:56] <ardchoille> cathal: I noticed that after I wrote a master script, a clean install was faster than an upgrade anyway.
[12:56] <secret> always the same when I try doing these commands...
[12:56] <forcerain> secret: running any software that access the sound card?
[12:57] <forcerain> close the mixer and everything
[12:57] <secret> umm umm umm not really, like what?
[12:57] <forcerain> and turn off the KDE sound system
[12:57] <forcerain> then try
[12:57] <secret> ok ill try
[12:57] <forcerain> the volume adjustment app at the bottom right of the screen
[12:57] <forcerain> as an example
[12:57] <cathal> ardchoille: it looks like ill have t, but it was one of the reasons i moved to ubuntu as i was sick of doing fresh install allthe time
[12:58] <^RiaN^> forcerain:  i want to go to ws-10 with ip 192.168.0.10
[12:58] <forcerain> ^RiaN^: you need to have an SSH daemon running on that machine
[12:58] <fdoving> cathal: you will certainly not need to reinstall to unhide those folders.
[12:58] <forcerain> on the one you want to access
[12:58] <^RiaN^> how to instrall daemon
[12:58] <^RiaN^> forcerain:  how to instrall daemon
[12:58] <secret> ERROR: Removing 'snd_hda_intel': No such file or directory
[12:58] <secret> ?
[12:59] <cathal> fdoving: i know that, but i want to know why it did this, as what else did it not do too that i havent noticed yet
[12:59] <forcerain> ^RiaN^: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#SSH_Server
[12:59] <forcerain> ^RiaN^: you need to install that on the machine you call ws-10
[12:59] <^RiaN^> ok
[12:59] <^RiaN^> i'll try
[12:59] <secret> hmmz hmmz hmmz
[01:00] <secret> what's wrong? am I missing a driver?
[01:00] <secret> I dont understand
[01:00] <forcerain> secret: sudo modprobe -r snd_hda_intel
[01:00] <forcerain> try that then sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[01:00] <forcerain> and it'll load the driver back in again
[01:01] <secret> secret@secret-desktop:~$
[01:01] <secret> just goes to this
[01:01] <Maruko> hi
[01:01] <Maruko> one question
[01:01] <forcerain> then it's successful
[01:01] <Maruko> I got this eror while installin a program from source
[01:01] <Maruko> You must have the GLib 2.0 development headers installed to build
[01:01] <Maruko> how can I resolve it?
[01:01] <forcerain> now try: sudo modprobe -r snd-hda-intel && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel model=3stack
[01:02] <forcerain> and see if sound works after
[01:02] <fdoving> Maruko: you need to install the package: libglib2.0-dev
[01:02] <secret> I got a funny sound
[01:02] <secret> like a close window or log off sound
[01:02] <forcerain> Maruko: try sudo apt-get install libglib2.0-dev
[01:03] <forcerain> secret: try turning on KDE Sound System again and clicking "Test Sound"
[01:04] <tahsin> :)
[01:04] <forcerain> if it works i'll tell you how to make the changes permanent
[01:04] <secret> no sound when I test. However, If I place my headphones in the microphone socket, I can hear sound - but only from one side of the headphones.
[01:05] <forcerain> O_O
[01:05] <secret> ?
[01:05] <forcerain> ok that's a sort of improvement
[01:05] <^RiaN^> forcerain: how do i check my port
[01:05] <Maruko> forcerain... another error  You must have the GTK+ 2.0 development headers installed to compile Pidgin.If you only want to build Finch then specify --disable-gtkui when running configure.
[01:05] <forcerain> Maruko: apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev - I think
[01:05] <secret> ok, so hmmz hmmz hmmz
[01:06] <forcerain> ^RiaN^: I don't quite get what you mean there but I think you're after netstat -a
[01:06] <forcerain> that will show what ports are being listened on etc.
[01:07] <forcerain> secret: try the mixer and see if some options are wrong on it
[01:07] <forcerain> load up kmix and have a look at all the sliders etc.
[01:08] <alansii> omg help how to use my canon printer
[01:08] <secret> im looking friend
[01:09] <forcerain> if there's any options like external amplifier enabled turn them off
[01:10] <alansii> how to use my canon printer
[01:10] <secret> hmmmz look ok
[01:11] <forcerain> alansii: look on "System Settings" > Printers
[01:11] <secret> what is this, input?
[01:11] <forcerain> then install it in "Administrator Mode"
[01:11] <secret> Capture, Capture, Capture
[01:11] <forcerain> secret: for recording
[01:11] <secret> it's all low
[01:11] <forcerain> turn up all the green ones
[01:12] <secret> they're all red in input'
[01:12] <forcerain> they're meant to be low
[01:12] <forcerain> turn off all the yellow options
[01:12] <secret> ok
[01:14] <forcerain> and one slider controls how much output comes out of each speaker
[01:14] <^RiaN^> forcerain: u know hot to use irc on konsole
[01:14] <^RiaN^> :)
[01:14] <^RiaN^> forcerain: u know how to use irc on konsole
[01:15] <forcerain> when it's in the middle both speakers equally output sound.. that could be why your headphones don't output sound properly if it's too far to one side
[01:15] <forcerain> ^RiaN^: yes but I have to have a copy of the RFCs in front of me
[01:15] <forcerain> because I often mess up with the : USER part of registration
[01:16] <^RiaN^> can u teach me
[01:16] <^RiaN^> step by step
[01:16] <^RiaN^> :)
[01:17] <forcerain> errrrr.... I hate telnetting into IRC and I always need the RFCs infront of me to remember half of it
[01:17] <secret> hmmz it just wont the shit.. maybe reintall you think forcerain?
[01:18] <secret> wont make a difference?
[01:18] <forcerain> secret: if the install went okay the first time then it probably wont
[01:18] <forcerain> but there is one thing you can try
[01:19] <forcerain> change the option on KDE Sound System to Open Sound System
[01:19] <forcerain> or to see if your sound card actually works you can try this:
[01:19] <forcerain> sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[01:19] <^RiaN^> forcerain: can i use smb on konsole
[01:19] <forcerain> but your ears will hurd
[01:19] <forcerain> hurt**
[01:20] <alesan> I've just installed kubuntu. how do I install the nvidia drivers... on the standard ubuntu there is an icon to install them
[01:20] <forcerain> (white noise is so evil!)
[01:20] <forcerain> alesan: try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:21] <secret> bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied?
[01:21] <forcerain> O_O
[01:21] <^RiaN^> forcerain: can i use smb on konsole
[01:21] <secret> wtf is wrong with this forcerain?
[01:21] <forcerain> smb? as in samba?
[01:21] <forcerain> i'm no good with samba shares unfortunately
[01:22] <forcerain> secret: good question
[01:22] <forcerain> secret: try sudo -i then you'll become root
[01:22] <secret> the sound card works great with windows - no probs there.
[01:22] <forcerain> then try a chmod 777 /dev/dsp
[01:22] <forcerain> then try cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[01:22] <secret> ok
[01:23] <forcerain> white noise will come out if it's working
[01:23] <secret> chmod: cannot access `/dev/dsp': No such file or directory
[01:23] <forcerain> :|
[01:23] <^RiaN^> forcerain: i want install psy in my pc
[01:24] <fdoving> ^RiaN^: psy as in psybnc ?
[01:24] <forcerain> ^RiaN^: what exactly do you mean by psy? as in psyBNC?
[01:24] <secret> maybe I should download a different distro, maybe feisty farn yes?
[01:24] <secret> how do I know what version i have?
[01:24] <secret> it just said 7.04
[01:24] <^RiaN^> yes psybnc
[01:24] <forcerain> 7.04 is feisty fawn I think
[01:24] <secret> ok
[01:24] <secret> what do you have?
[01:24] <secret> maybe ubuntu
[01:25] <fdoving> ^RiaN^: maybe searching goolge can help you: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=install+psybnc+ubuntu&btnG=Search
[01:25] <secret> i can download any distro for free, and it cost me no mb's
[01:25] <forcerain> secret: it will work the same way with ubuntu just different GUI
[01:25] <secret> so no sound with ubuntu?
[01:25] <forcerain> probably not
[01:26] <secret> ok then, well I can't be the only person on the planet using this soundcard with this distro
[01:26] <secret> the forums should be ful;l of people complaining
[01:26] <secret> yet, i'm the only one there with this prob
[01:27] <alesan> forcerain: after having installed nvidia-glx, who is supposed to configure it for being used?
[01:27] <secret> so obviously, god just doesn't like me.
[01:27] <alesan> is it automatich or what?
[01:27] <forcerain> alesan: 1 sec
[01:27] <forcerain> put sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:27] <forcerain> then restart the PC
[01:27] <forcerain> and it should then work
[01:28] <secret> i get that sound when kubuntu starts up by the way, it's like a scream
[01:28] <secret> EHEHhHEHEHhehHHEhehe
[01:28] <secret> you know?
[01:28] <forcerain> it's no scream on my system :|
[01:28] <forcerain> hmmm
[01:28] <secret> wtf, when you start up?
[01:28] <secret> it's like a stretch noise
[01:28] <MsK`> hi
[01:28] <MsK`> why there is ide-cs module ?
[01:29] <MsK`> (it's the driver for compact flash pcmcia readers)
[01:29] <MsK`> why there is NO ide-cs module ?
[01:29] <forcerain> hmmm
[01:29] <secret> when the os is loading
[01:29] <secret> uh oh
[01:29] <forcerain> yeah I do get a noise
[01:29] <secret> hhahaha see
[01:29] <forcerain> but it's not like screaming lol
[01:30] <secret> Lolz ok, if you turn it up load it is
[01:30] <secret> loud
[01:30] <forcerain> okay I have an idea
[01:30] <secret> ok ok :)
[01:30] <forcerain> sudo apt-get install alsaplayer-common
[01:30] <forcerain> then after installing that try this:
[01:30] <forcerain> alsaplayer /usr/share/sounds/kubuntu-login.ogg
[01:31] <secret> alsaplayer /usr/share/sounds/kubuntu-login.ogg
[01:32] <secret> ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'
[01:32] <secret> ALSA lib conf.c:3500:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
[01:32] <secret> ALSA lib confmisc.c:391:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
[01:32] <secret> ALSA lib conf.c:3500:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such device
[01:32] <secret> ALSA lib confmisc.c:1070:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
[01:32] <forcerain> :|
[01:32] <secret> ALSA lib conf.c:3500:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such device
[01:32] <secret> ALSA lib conf.c:3968:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
[01:32] <forcerain> eeps
[01:32] <forcerain> hmmm
[01:32] <secret> ALSA lib pcm.c:2145:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[01:32] <secret> snd_pcm_open: No such device (default)
[01:32] <secret> Failed to initialize plugin!
[01:32] <forcerain> yeah I get the idea lol
[01:32] <secret> Failed to register plugin: /usr/lib/alsaplayer/output/libalsa_out.so
[01:32] <secret> Failed to load output plugin "alsa". Trying defaults.
[01:32] <secret> ALSA lib confmisc.c:670:(snd_func_card_driver) cannot find card '0'
[01:33] <secret> ALSA lib conf.c:3500:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such device
[01:33] <secret> ALSA lib confmisc.c:391:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
[01:33] <secret> ALSA lib conf.c:3500:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat returned error: No such device
[01:33] <secret> ALSA lib confmisc.c:1070:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
[01:33] <secret> ALSA lib conf.c:3500:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such device
[01:33] <forcerain> ahhh flood! :|
[01:33] <secret> ALSA lib conf.c:3968:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such device
[01:33] <secret> ALSA lib pcm.c:2145:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
[01:33] <secret> snd_pcm_open: No such device (default)
[01:33] <secret> Failed to initialize plugin!
[01:33] <secret> /usr/lib/alsaplayer/output/libalsa_out.so failed to load
[01:33] <secret> NOTE: THIS IS THE NULL PLUGIN.      YOU WILL NOT HEAR SOUND!!
[01:33] <secret> soz
[01:33] <secret> I should have one that is the other room
[01:33] <secret> my bad
[01:33] <secret> says it right there, "YOU WILL NOT HEAR SOUND"
[01:33] <secret> soz
[01:34] <forcerain> :|
[01:34] <forcerain> hmmm
[01:34] <secret> amarok is having difficulties starting btw
[01:34] <forcerain> try typing alsamixer
[01:34] <Neil-> !paste > secret
[01:34] <forcerain> secret: feisty has been b0rking my sound card quite a bit too
[01:35] <atidem> re
[01:35] <secret> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such devic
[01:35] <Neil-> I'm having loads of crashes and segfaults with sound in feisty :(
[01:35] <Neil-> just gonna have to ride it out i think
[01:35] <forcerain> Neil-: me too
[01:35] <Neil-> banshee, rhythmbox, beep, they all segfault on me
[01:35] <secret> who the hell is ubotu?
[01:35] <forcerain> Neil-: turn off realtime priority on KDE sound system ;)
[01:35] <^RiaN^> forcerain: how about game gunbound
[01:35] <Neil-> im ubuntu
[01:35] <forcerain> secret: ubotu is a bot
[01:35] <Neil-> how do you do it in gnome?
[01:36] <secret> k
[01:36] <forcerain> !test
[01:36] <ubotu> failed
[01:36] <forcerain> :P
[01:36] <forcerain> Neil-: is esd on?
[01:36] <Neil-> forcerain: Will that help the segfaults then?
[01:36] <Neil-> forcerain: Im not sure.. how do I check?
[01:36] <forcerain> Neil-: only for KDE but GNOME uses esd as it's daemon
[01:37] <forcerain> it's on preferences > sound or something like that if my brain is working
[01:37] <jussi01> !ubotu | secret
[01:37] <ubotu> secret: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:37] <secret> borking? at least you get some sound
[01:37] <secret> hhahaha
[01:38] <Neil-> forcerain: Sure is on..
[01:38] <Neil-> is that good or bad?
[01:38] <secret> all knowing aye? how about you tell me what's wrong with this sound eh?
[01:38] <forcerain> try turning it off and see if it helps
[01:38] <jussi01> !sound | secret
[01:38] <ubotu> secret: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:38] <tmske> Hi: someone knows a good screen recording program for linux?
[01:38] <secret> woah, ok, will I be rich?
[01:39] <Neil-> forcerain: Now off, need to restart the daemon or anything
[01:39] <secret> lol :] 
[01:39] <Neil-> *?
[01:39] <forcerain> should be ok
[01:39] <forcerain> things in GNOME set straight away
[01:39] <jussi01> tmske:  gtk record my desktop or something named similarly
[01:39] <forcerain> try rhythmbox and see what happens
[01:39] <secret> !sound | forcerain
[01:39] <ubotu> forcerain: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:39] <secret> hahaha busted jussi
[01:40] <secret> ok Ima reinstall
[01:40] <jussi01> secret: its a factoid....
[01:40] <secret> cool
[01:40] <secret> good idea though
[01:40] <jussi01> !botabuse > secret
[01:40] <forcerain> !lart jussi01
[01:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lart jussi01 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:40] <secret> no
[01:40] <forcerain> doh
[01:40] <secret> bhahaha
[01:40] <forcerain> wrong bot :<
[01:40] <jussi01> @lart | forcerain
[01:41] <jussi01> anyway, enough playing with the bots...
[01:41] <forcerain> !apparmor > forcerain
[01:41] <jussi01> !botabuse | everyone
[01:41] <ubotu> everyone: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:41] <secret> take care people, im off
[01:41] <jussi01> bye secret
[01:41] <forcerain> see you later secret
[01:42] <juan> hello all! i have a small question regarding the logical name of my cd rom,
[01:42] <juan> it is named /dev/hdb, i need to change it to /dev/fscd0
[01:43] <forcerain> juan: does a /dev/fscd0 exist already?
[01:43] <juan> no
[01:43] <forcerain> and why do you need to change it?
[01:43] <juan> because when i insert a cd it doesn't mount it
[01:44] <juan> automatically, i have to mount it through the konsole
[01:44] <forcerain> add an entry to /etc/fstab for /dev/hdb
[01:44] <forcerain> something like:
[01:44] <juan> it's already there
[01:44] <forcerain>  /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:45] <forcerain> make sure user,noauto is there instead of default
[01:45] <forcerain> then any user can mount the disc
[01:45] <forcerain> hmmm
[01:46] <juan> is there a way to add fcd0 to my /dev/?
[01:46] <forcerain> try symlinking it with ln -s /dev/hdc /dev/fscd0
[01:46] <juan> ok
[01:46] <juan> let me try
[01:47] <tmske> jussi01: thanks, looks like there is a Qtrecordmydesktop too, not in packages yet
[01:47] <forcerain> juan: or you could make it if that fails
[01:47] <jussi01> tmske: cool, if you want it packaged i suggest you make a bug with the tag needs packaging on launchpad
[01:49] <tmske> jussi01: I have installed it already, but I still want to report a bug, on what page should I do that?
[01:53] <jussi01> !launchpad | tmske
[01:53] <ubotu> tmske: launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[01:54] <aldin_> what is tha name of package which show battery state in kubuntu?
[01:55] <fdoving> aldin_: kde-guidance-powermanager
[01:56] <jon_> !mozilla-thunderbird
[01:56] <aldin_> fdoving: are u sure this says taht it uses HAL?
[01:56] <fdoving> aldin_: yes, it uses hal.
[02:00] <jon_> anyone using 3.57 yet? if so what is the difference?
[02:02] <Hobbsee> jon_: see kde.org for the announcement, of which there's a chagnelog linked
[02:02] <jon_> k
[02:02] <tmske> jussi01: I know about launchpad, but for what program should I file the bug?
[02:03] <Hobbsee> krecordmydesktop - kde frontend to recordmydesktop
[02:03] <Hobbsee> tmske: appears to be there, in gutsy
[02:03] <Hobbsee> tmske: and in ubuntu.
[02:03] <Hobbsee> to answer the question
[02:05] <manu__> hi everybody ! I'm looking for some help to configure KDevelop. Could someone help me ?
[02:05] <tmske> Hobbsee: that's a different program, there is also qt-recordmydesktop
[02:05] <sercik> how can i know uuid of an harddisk??
[02:05] <Hobbsee> tmske:
[02:05] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[02:06] <Hobbsee> sercik: ls -lh /dev/disk-by/uuid
[02:06] <sercik> Hobbsee: you are great!
[02:06] <Ober0ne> hey
[02:06] <fdoving> sercik: or 'sudo blkid'
[02:06] <Ober0ne> having problems with X server I think
[02:06] <Hobbsee> sercik: :D
[02:07] <sercik> sudo blkid not works
[02:07] <manu__> yep, can not find X includes
[02:07] <sercik> i need to add a line in fstab
[02:07] <sercik> for my external usb disk
[02:07] <Ober0ne> !x
[02:07] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:07] <sercik> but ntfs-config doesn't add that lines so i thought to add myslf
[02:07] <sercik> Hi fdoving
[02:08] <fdoving> hi.
[02:08] <nahemoth> how do we instal .bin files?
[02:08] <manu__> i know that. but my X server looks to work great, because I can launch the interface. But at compilation, i get this error
[02:08] <manu__> configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[02:09] <sercik> I need to know a uuid of an external usb that is not in fstab already
[02:09] <sercik> manu_ try to install xserver-xorg-dev
[02:10] <sercik> nahemoth: what is that file that you want to install?
[02:11] <nahemoth> tuxguitar-0.9.1-linux-installer.bin
[02:11] <jussi01> manu__: this may be helpful: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-23570.html
[02:11] <sercik> you are sure this is a good file? then you can do sudo sh ./tuxguitar-0.9.1-linux-installer.bin
[02:12] <sercik> is supposed that you are in the same directory of file
[02:12] <Ober0ne> anyone know how to fix a screen flash on startup? I can't log into any of my ttys
[02:12] <manu__> I just installed xserver-xorg-dev but error still here. Should I restart X ?
[02:12] <sercik> no no
[02:12] <fdoving> manu__: no, try xorg-dev then.
[02:12] <sercik> you don't need to restard
[02:12] <jussi01> manu__: read that thread igave...
[02:12] <sercik> fdoving:  can you help me with uuid??
[02:12] <fdoving> sercik: probably. what's your problem?
[02:13] <sercik> probably i have understood how to do but i'm not sure
[02:14] <sercik> i want to add aline in fstab to mount an external ntfs hard disk.... ntfs-config has not added the line for me!
[02:14] <sercik> so i think to use the same sintax that ntfs uses but i need uuid
[02:14] <nahemoth> sercik it says syntax error
[02:14] <BluesKaj> sercik, were you root ?
[02:14] <Ober0ne> sercik: I found the diskmounter to work fairly well for that situation
[02:15] <manu__> I suppose it works a little better : now it cannot find Qt
[02:15] <sercik> nahemoth: he gives a syntax error. yes
[02:16] <sercik> Hi BluesKaj!!
[02:16] <manu__> I tried to install Qt but should not be the correct name
[02:16] <BluesKaj> is there a repos for diskmounter
[02:16] <Ober0ne> no, you just type...
[02:16] <BluesKaj> hey sercik ;)
[02:16] <fdoving> sercik: ok, do you have a question when it comes to the syntax?
[02:16] <Ober0ne> hold on let me remember
[02:16] <sercik> no no
[02:16] <Ober0ne> wget www.media.ubuntu-nl.org/scripts/diskmounter
[02:16] <sercik> ntfs-config is probably bugged! but i can do myself or not?
[02:17] <sercik> if i add to fstab:
[02:17] <sercik> UUID=62EA8D9CEA8D6D5B /media/USB320 ntfs-3g users,defaults,locale=it_IT.UTF-8 0 1
[02:17] <sercik> should be good or not?
[02:17] <sercik> but how to know a uuid of disk??
[02:17] <adi_> yes you can i use 3g-ntfs and i did it manually it works fine
[02:17] <BluesKaj> sercik, does it show in system settings /disks &filesystems ?
[02:18] <sercik> BluesKaj: you are a good linux users why do you refer to graphical frontend?? we can do all fron konsole :)
[02:18] <sercik> i have already mounted hd without problem
[02:18] <sercik> but i want to add the line to fstab with uuid
[02:19] <adi_> here is the line from my fstab which works
[02:19] <BluesKaj> not real good at the konsole, sercik , still don't know all the commands :)
[02:19] <adi_>  /dev/sda1     /mnt/windows     ntfs-3g     defaults,locale=en_US.utf8   0    0
[02:20] <fdoving> sercik: that you pasted should work. UUID=<uuid> .. the rest is the same.
[02:21] <sercik> i know how to use the command mount!
[02:22] <Ober0ne> anyone have any free time?
[02:22] <sercik> but do you now that if i connect usb devices in different order my usb external hd is not always the same device, but i think that with uuid i have no problems!
[02:22] <sercik> fdoving: where can i find uuid?
[02:23] <fdoving> sercik: ls -lh /dev/disk/by-uuid like hobbsee said.
[02:23] <Ober0ne> sercik: Your usb hd will only come up as a scsi drive... normally it will look like sda1 or something like that
[02:24] <Ober0ne> your other USB devices, unless they're hds will come up as something totally different
[02:24] <sercik> ah ok sorry now it works!!
[02:24] <sercik> thank you to all!
[02:24] <adi_> np sercik
[02:24] <sercik> Ober0ne: do you know that if i connect more hd it doesn't have always the same device?
[02:25] <sercik> but now with uuid i resolv question, thanks again!!
[02:25] <Ober0ne> well, if there's more than one external hard drive, it will come up with different mount points
[02:25] <Ober0ne> I'm just a n00b anyway :p
[02:26] <Ober0ne> ok, I'm having problems starting Kubuntu
[02:26] <sercik> No with different /dev/sd..
[02:27] <Ober0ne> *sigh* I had to come up in windows
[02:27] <manu__> OK, it's working now. My first KDE application, I'm so happy !
[02:27] <sercik> not i can't use /dev/sda1 because is not always /dev/sda1
[02:27] <manu__> thank you guys
[02:27] <Ober0ne> ...
[02:28] <Ober0ne> this is getting frustrating
[02:29] <secret> hi again
[02:29] <sercik> Ober0ne: i'm sorry tha you are frustrating
[02:29] <fdoving> Ober0ne: the device name can change, the uuid is unique to exactly that partition. so, it doesn't matter if it's /dev/sda1 or /dev/sdd1, the uuid is the same. :)
[02:30] <Ober0ne> no worries sercik...
[02:30] <secret> forcerain here?
[02:30] <Ober0ne> I'm having serious linux problems
[02:30] <fdoving> Ober0ne: that's the nice thing about uuids, you don't need to edit your /etc/fstab every time something in your setup changes. you can add and rmeove drives and the fstab uuids will still work. :)
[02:30] <sercik> what?
[02:30] <Ober0ne> enough to make me reboot into windows
[02:30] <sercik> fdoving: Exact you have completely understood my needs!! as always :)
[02:30] <secret> Could someone help me download and burn an iso in kubuntu please?
[02:31] <sercik> secret: this is very simple
[02:31] <forcerain> k3b is the burner software
[02:31] <sercik> do you know internet address os iso?
[02:31] <secret> i am new to kubuntu friend
[02:31] <forcerain> all you do is download the ISO
[02:31] <secret> the iso downloads with kate?
[02:31] <forcerain> then go on k3b and double click the ISO
[02:31] <sercik> no
[02:31] <Ober0ne> ok, the problem is this: I start up kubuntu, it tells me that the kernel is alive, and then won't allow me to log in... the screen flashes
[02:31] <sercik> kate is an editor
[02:31] <forcerain> secret: konqueror to surf the web
[02:31] <Ober0ne> I think I'm having problems with my X server, but I don't know
[02:31] <forcerain> same thing you use as your file manager
[02:32] <secret> yes, but when I click the download, it downloads with kate
[02:32] <sercik> Ober0ne: X server have always problems!!
[02:32] <u123> hi all
[02:32] <secret> and then opens, with kate
[02:32] <sercik> secret
[02:32] <forcerain> secret: okay I know
[02:32] <forcerain> right click it
[02:32] <sercik> pvt me
[02:32] <forcerain> copy the link
[02:32] <secret> ?
[02:32] <forcerain> then open a console
[02:32] <forcerain> then type wget -c and paste the URL
[02:32] <forcerain> then hit enter
[02:32] <forcerain> it will download properly then
[02:32] <Ober0ne> the big issue is that I can't even log into any of the other ttys
[02:32] <u123> how to intall java on kubutu
[02:32] <secret> http://ga13.gamearena.com.au:3030/software/linux/ubuntu/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[02:32] <u123> ?
[02:33] <sercik> Ober0ne: you should boot a live cd and change xorg.conf
[02:33] <forcerain> secret: wget -c http://ga13.gamearena.com.au:3030/software/linux/ubuntu/ubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso
[02:33] <fdoving> forcerain: tips, write wget -c into the konsole, then drag and drop the link to that terminal, and select paste :)
[02:33] <forcerain> open up konsole and put that
[02:33] <secret> in a terminal?
[02:33] <sercik> or you can start your system without kdm
[02:33] <Ober0ne> I can't get that far
[02:33] <forcerain> secret: yep
[02:33] <secret> where does it download to?
[02:34] <sercik> Why Ober0ne? you can't do that?
[02:34] <secret> i mean, the location
[02:34] <sercik> secret in the folder in which you open terminal
[02:34] <forcerain> secret: in a freshly opened terminal it would be your home directory
[02:34] <Ober0ne> ok, it shows me the kubuntu loader splash with the black background and the bar
[02:34] <secret> ;(
[02:34] <sercik> i have had the same problem
[02:34] <Ober0ne> then when it gets into the OS, it hangs
[02:34] <forcerain> Ober0ne: no big deal
[02:34] <secret> so this terminal that I have opened is a folder?
[02:35] <forcerain> hit ctrl+alt+F1 Ober0ne
[02:35] <adi_> did you try login in debug mode?"
[02:35] <forcerain> then login
[02:35] <Ober0ne> I can't log into the other ttys
[02:35] <Ober0ne> it flashes
[02:35] <secret> ok
[02:35] <secret> so it downloads to my home directory
[02:35] <forcerain> secret: it's a terminal but the folder it starts off in is the home folder
[02:35] <secret> ok
[02:35] <forcerain> yeah
[02:35] <secret> ok
[02:35] <secret> and then I burn with koffee yes?
[02:36] <Ober0ne> adi_: How do I do that?
[02:36] <secret> kaffiene
[02:36] <forcerain> secret: k3b
[02:36] <secret> k3b ok
[02:36] <secret> thanks
[02:36] <secret> how cool is this..
[02:36] <forcerain> you burn with k3b.. kaffeine is a movie player
[02:36] <secret> i wish my sound would work :(
[02:36] <forcerain> k3b is sexy ^.^
[02:36] <sercik> k3b is better than nero
[02:36] <adi_> when grub shows you should see your kernel ver and it says debug mode
[02:36] <secret> i will try and install ubuntu, see what happens
[02:36] <Ober0ne> ahh
[02:37] <Ober0ne> thanks adi_ I will reboot and see how that works
[02:37] <sercik> in fact nero is free for linux because ahead understood that i can't sell to linux users that know k3b
[02:37] <adi_> cool let me know
[02:37] <Ober0ne> will do
[02:37] <forcerain> sercik: that and it's crap enough to be called a BETA :P
[02:38] <secret> anywy to run microsoft office 2007 on linux?
[02:38] <sercik> it is possible to use k3b under windows?
[02:38] <secret> just word really
[02:38] <sercik> secret: you can run office 2003 with crossover
[02:38] <secret> word, maybe access too.
[02:38] <adi_> try alcohol 120
[02:38] <secret> ok
[02:38] <adi_> its better to my opinion:)
[02:38] <sakabatou> Ripit is better than k3b, for mp3 ripping
[02:38] <secret> wht about .flv files?
[02:39] <forcerain> secret: WINE (free) or Crossover Office (costs $59.99 or so) will run Windows apps
[02:39] <forcerain> secret: try mplayer or vlc with flash plugins
[02:39] <adi_> you can you crossover linux i do that works fine
[02:39] <secret> ok
[02:39] <adi_> i use office 2003 on it but it works with 2007 too
[02:39] <sercik> or you can install windows under linux :)
[02:40] <secret> and also, does linux have a temporary internet files so that i can snatch the videos -example youtube vids?
[02:40] <adi_> lol no way:)
[02:40] <secret> local seetings/temporart internet files
[02:40] <forcerain> VMWare Server (free beer) does Windows under GNU/Linux yeah
[02:40] <forcerain> ^.^
[02:40] <adi_> tho i have windows on vmware on my kubuntu:)
[02:41] <sercik> i like Virtualbox that is free!
[02:41] <secret> i think kubuntu is awesome.. and when I get my sound working, it will be great@
[02:41] <secret> edubuntu anygood?
[02:41] <forcerain> sercik: except doesn't work on AMD64 and isn't very secure (Ring 0 access not very good idea)
[02:41] <secret> and christian ubuntu lol
[02:42] <secret> seriously, christian ubuntu
[02:42] <forcerain> secret: it really exists but the guys who recommend it also recommend AVG for Linux which sucks lol
[02:42] <secret> why would you need anti-virus for linux?
[02:43] <sercik> avast for linux is good?
[02:43] <adi_> why do you need an anti virus for linux?:P
[02:43] <secret> linux has viruses?
[02:43] <adi_> yeah it is i like antiVir too
[02:43] <forcerain> only about 40 and they don't work
[02:43] <fdoving> secret: you might want to scan for viruses on the linux machine, to protect the windows machines.
[02:43] <sercik> if you use linux inside a windows lan
[02:43] <adi_> they have but only on POC not in the real worl as far as is know
[02:43] <secret> windows lan?
[02:43] <secret> internet connection?
[02:44] <Ober0ne> adi_: same problem
[02:44] <adi_> you have nothing to worry about
[02:44] <sercik> someone here is good with bridge tun tap interfaces?
[02:44] <forcerain> secret: if you have a network that has Windows machines on it
[02:44] <adi_> ober what did you see on the debug session?
[02:44] <secret> actually i do, my fathers computer has windows
[02:44] <secret> i couldn't put linux on his machine...
[02:44] <secret> he can't even run windows correctly
[02:44] <Ober0ne> a lot of really fast text, it asked me for my root password which apparently has change
[02:44] <forcerain> secret: Linux doesn't have a virus problem and Windows viruses only work on Windows lol
[02:45] <adi_> hmm
[02:45] <secret> what about wine?
[02:45] <secret> do they work in wine?
[02:45] <sercik> forcerain: few virus for linux exists
[02:45] <adi_> and you get to the splash screen and thats it?
[02:45] <secret> it's a windows emulator  for linux
[02:45] <forcerain> secret: nope
[02:45] <secret> ok
[02:45] <Ober0ne> well this time I didn't get the spash
[02:45] <ardchoille> forcerain: Windows viruses also work in wine
[02:45] <adi_> no they dont i tried that just for show and it dosnt work
[02:45] <forcerain> secret: well they do but they only damage the WINE environment
[02:45] <secret> ok
[02:45] <adi_> ok so where did you get to?
[02:45] <AciD> hi
[02:46] <forcerain> secret: which can be sorted with an rm -rf ~/.wine && winecfg
[02:46] <forcerain> hehe
[02:46] <Ober0ne> remember how ubuntu used to boot before feisty?
[02:46] <secret> woah, how intriguing!
[02:46] <Ober0ne> it looked like that, but without the splash on the screen
[02:46] <secret> I should've directed my atention to computer engineering, instead of mining/civil engineering
[02:46] <adi_> but you dont get to your desktop
[02:46] <Ober0ne> not even close
[02:47] <Ober0ne> *sigh* I've got it set up to autologing
[02:47] <Ober0ne> login*
[02:47] <adi_> can you get a shell promt?
[02:47] <Ober0ne> no
[02:47] <adi_> hmm
[02:47] <AciD> I just downloaded kubuntu-7.04-desktop-i386.iso, md5-checked it, and when I try to burn the iso with k3b, I get some nasty -Unable to send CUE sheet. this may be caused by wrong settings- have you ever see that pb here ?
[02:47] <Ober0ne> I try to use tty1, but it continues to flash
[02:47] <adi_> can you explain exactly where does it hangs?
[02:48] <Ober0ne> I can try
[02:48] <Ober0ne> after the splash, some text flies by (probably the autologin script), then it looks like it tries to get to the desktop but fails
[02:48] <Ober0ne> that's where it starts to flash
[02:49] <Ober0ne> remember how nintendo used to flash if the cartridge was dirty or not in right?
[02:49] <sercik> secret: you sre an engineer?
[02:49] <adi_> maybe your autologin is damaged
[02:49] <adi_> lol yeah'
[02:49] <Ober0ne> that's exactly it
[02:49] <adi_> can you disable autologin?
[02:50] <Ober0ne> I don't know
[02:50] <Ober0ne> I have to admit, I'm still fairly new
[02:50] <nbcb> my ktorrent keep getting cannot open index file, too many open files..... can anyone help?
[02:50] <adi_> can login into runlevel 1?
[02:50] <Ober0ne> is that ctrl+alt+f1?
[02:51] <adi_> you can do that by editing grub when grub shows type e then add 1 at the end of the line which your kernell version shows
[02:51] <Ober0ne> reaaally?
[02:51] <adi_> yup
[02:51] <Ober0ne> I like you
[02:51] <Ober0ne> so what do I do if I can get that to work?
[02:52] <adi_> you should be able to get a shell then you can try checking the logs
[02:52] <sercik> Ober0ne: why don't you trust me you need to start with failsafe
[02:52] <Ober0ne> sercik: I tried the failsafe, it won't work
[02:52] <sercik> and edit xorg.conf
[02:53] <Ober0ne> I don't know anything about xorg.conf
[02:53] <sercik> ok now try to edit grub before boot
[02:53] <nbcb> my ktorrent keep getting cannot open index file, too many open files..... can anyone help?
[02:53] <adi_> ya and then check for errors before editing any files:)
[02:53] <sercik> you can press e  and then add to the end of line kernel ...... init=/bin/sh
[02:53] <adi_> or just 1:P
[02:53] <sercik> the system will boot without graphic
[02:54] <sercik> the you can do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:54] <Ober0ne> ok, now do I need a root password for that?
[02:54] <sercik> no
[02:54] <Ober0ne> for runlevel 1 I mean
[02:54] <adi_> nope
[02:54] <sercik> you will enter automatically as root
[02:54] <Ober0ne> gooood
[02:54] <adi_> thats what nice in runlevel 1 oyou get a root shell
[02:54] <Ober0ne> because apparently my root password has change
[02:54] <sercik> this method is useful if you dan't remember password root
[02:54] <adi_> you can do passwd and change it in runlevel 1
[02:54] <Ober0ne> good good
[02:55] <sercik> ubuntu don't have root password by defualt
[02:55] <adi_> true
[02:55] <sercik> do you have created it?
[02:55] <Ober0ne> nope
[02:55] <Ober0ne> I tried leaving it blank
[02:55] <sercik> do you trust me?
[02:55] <adi_> so you dont have it
[02:55] <sercik> i can enter on your machine and try to solve the problem
[02:55] <adi_> its not even blank its somethingrandom by default
[02:55] <Ober0ne> I'm on windows right now
[02:55] <sercik> ok
[02:55] <sercik> install ext2fs
[02:56] <Ober0ne> I should clarify
[02:56] <Ober0ne> I'm on Vista
[02:56] <sercik> on windows you can access to your linux partition
[02:56] <adi_> the way you work be default is with sudo and no root password
[02:56] <adi_> tho you can do sudo passwd root and set a password
[02:56] <sercik> take the xorg.conf file and send it to me!
[02:57] <sercik> when you access your linux you can download sysvconfig
[02:57] <Ober0ne> *sigh* I can't get ext2fs to work on my windows machine
[02:57] <adi_> :)
[02:57] <sercik> and with it disable startup of kdm (graphics) until you'll solve the probelm
[02:57] <Ober0ne> lol... I tried a little while ago
[02:58] <adi_> try to boot into runlevel 1
[02:58] <sercik> there are different program to read linux partition under windows
[02:58] <Ober0ne> alright, now once I'm in I won't have access to IRC, right?
[02:58] <adi_> right
[02:58] <sercik> some are able to mount partition others only browse it
[02:58] <Ober0ne> ok, so what will I do to xorg.conf to correct this error?
[02:58] <chris_scumm> anyone knows conky?
[02:58] <sercik> without graphic you can't use irc
[02:58] <adi_> but ser is right there progeams that let you read ex2fs partitions
[02:59] <sercik> sercik not ser :)
[02:59] <Ober0ne> not on vista... I've tried a bunch of them
[02:59] <adi_> :P sorry
[02:59] <Ober0ne> brb
[02:59] <Ober0ne> I need tabac
[02:59] <sercik> destroy vista and install XP
[02:59] <adi_> lol you running visat why!!!!!!!!!!
[02:59] <Ober0ne> because it was free
[02:59] <chris_scumm> how do i see the help files under the console
[02:59] <adi_> lol its crap
[03:00] <Ober0ne> I thought I might give it a try to see how bad it is
[03:00] <adi_> and winxp isnt;)
[03:00] <Ober0ne> no no, it gets worse... this Vista Ultimate SUCKS
[03:00] <adi_> :)
[03:00] <adi_> tell me about it
[03:00] <Ober0ne> everything is missing, they've hidden a bunch of things, and I had to download a 3rd party telnet client
[03:00] <chris_scumm> anyone can help me?
[03:00] <Ober0ne> it used to be part of the basic system
[03:01] <Ober0ne> I need a smoke now, brb
[03:01] <adi_> scrap it man do yourself good:)
[03:01] <cortex__> hi, I have protected a samba share with a password but, under windows XP, I can't choose the username , what can I do ?
[03:02] <sercik> hi cortex__
[03:02] <cortex__> hi sercik
[03:02] <sercik> i don't know what you have done but i think that the solution is set security =user into smbconf
[03:02] <sercik> i don't know what you have done but i think that the solution is set security =user into smb.conf
[03:03] <sercik> then you need to enable encrypt password in smb.conf
[03:03] <cortex__> ok, any differences with "security=share ?"
[03:03] <cortex__> ok
[03:03] <adi_> no change it for user
[03:04] <cortex__> ok, thank you & yave a nice day
[03:04] <sercik> with security = share the access is for everyone
[03:04] <adi_> indeed
[03:05] <sercik> with security = user you can create user with password that access samba
[03:05] <adi_> with smbpasswd if remember correctly
[03:05] <sercik> yes
[03:05] <chris_scumm> anyone knows the console?
[03:05] <sercik> smbpasswd -a user
[03:06] <chris_scumm> how can i see the hel files for an application under the console
[03:06] <sercik> but before is good that you add user to system too
[03:06] <sercik> with useradd
[03:07] <sercik> i have done so: i have created a group myhome
[03:07] <sercik> than i have created mother father and me users
[03:07] <sercik> added to myhome group
[03:07] <sercik> then i have added users to samba with smbpasswd -a user
[03:09] <chris_scumm> anyone knpws conky?
[03:09] <sercik> someone is good with network??
[03:09] <sercik> i need to create a bridge and add to it eth1 and tap1
[03:10] <Ober0ne> ok, I think I'm ready adi_
[03:10] <chris_scumm> anyone knows hox i set up the help running the console
[03:11] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: elaborate please
[03:11] <chris_scumm> im running an app under the console
[03:11] <chris_scumm> and id like to see the help files
[03:11] <chris_scumm> on the konsole
[03:11] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: of the app? in the konsole
[03:12] <chris_scumm> yes im running conky, it inly runs in the console ans do not have GUI
[03:12] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: try man app_name this will give you the manual pages of the app, however...
[03:12] <chris_scumm> ok
[03:12] <icecruncher> it is not garanteed that the program created man pages
[03:13] <chris_scumm> does not work
[03:13] <chris_scumm> its conky do you know it?
[03:13] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: no, never
[03:13] <icecruncher> !info conky
[03:14] <ubotu> conky: highly configurable system monitor for X based on torsmo. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.5-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 123 kB, installed size 416 kB
[03:14] <icecruncher> hmm
[03:14] <chris_scumm> it's tuning a little...
[03:14] <chris_scumm> to see the apps, the modem UL and Dl, ram and swap usage
[03:14] <chris_scumm> its more pimping than else
[03:15] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: you could try to go the the direcotry in which it is installed, then look fro teh readme, and type less README
[03:15] <chris_scumm> i dont know where its installed im goind to look for
[03:15] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: "locate conky"
[03:16] <wolfeySI> hello i dont know why in knetworkmanager i dont get wireless networks, i have wpasupplicant installed
[03:16] <wolfeySI> on another computer wpa was available without extra settings
[03:16] <wolfeySI> it's intel 2100 card, centrino
[03:18] <chris_scumm> nice icy'
[03:18] <chris_scumm> nothing :(
[03:18] <chris_scumm> lol
[03:18] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: look it up online
[03:18] <icecruncher> lol
[03:24] <djbrenden> selam millet
[03:25] <djbrenden> ubuntuya usb modemi nasl tantcam biri yardmc olabilirmi
[03:27] <icecruncher> !tr | djbrenden
[03:27] <ubotu> djbrenden: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[03:27] <djbrenden> ubotu:  saol
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about saol - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <djbrenden> :p
[03:28] <chris_scumm> !adeptfix
[03:28] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:28] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: very usefull :)
[03:28] <icecruncher> and if you interrupt, try ctrl + c
[03:28] <chris_scumm> yep!
[03:29] <chris_scumm> im gonna look online if i see how to tune it
[03:29] <icecruncher> :)
[03:29] <chris_scumm> you never heard of it icy',
[03:29] <chris_scumm> ?
[03:29] <icecruncher> no
[03:29] <chris_scumm> should try it to see its cool for the nrerds
[03:29] <chris_scumm> nerds
[03:29] <icecruncher> hahaha
[03:30] <titanix88> chris_scumm:what abt?
[03:30] <chris_scumm> conky
[03:31] <titanix88> chris_scumm:????????!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:31] <chris_scumm> ?
[03:31] <chris_scumm> what?
[03:31] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: http://conky.sourceforge.net/ they have the man page there, I'll look up how to add it
[03:31] <icecruncher> lol
[03:31] <chris_scumm> use adeopt installer
[03:32] <hydan> hey guys, i was hoping someone might be able to tell me how to check to see if you have xgl running.
[03:32] <hydan>  /installed
[03:32] <Graham> How can I burn a video dvd with a .mpg file?
[03:32] <adi_> try ps -ef | grep xgl:)
[03:33] <adi_> just install bryle m8
[03:34] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: another great program is yakuake
[03:34] <chris_scumm> same kinfd of program?
[03:34] <titanix88> Why xgl?
[03:34] <adi_> thats what im asking:)
[03:34] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: drop down konsole
[03:34] <titanix88> heard Xorg 7.0.2 can handle it well. is this true?
[03:35] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: and i just installed conkl and got the manual page! all you have to type in konsole is "man conky"
[03:35] <hydan> titanix88: i read on the ubuntu forums that xgl allows for faster system performance by passing most of the graphic work to graphics card.
[03:35] <adi_> BRYLE!!!!
[03:36] <chris_scumm> ???
[03:36] <chris_scumm> as a su ?
[03:36] <chris_scumm> maybe
[03:36] <adi_> :)
[03:36] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: no
[03:36] <icecruncher> btw i like it
[03:36] <etokura> How do I remove something from the modprob list
[03:37] <BluesKaj> WTF ? ...no more access to the terminal : "program su is not found: make sure your PATH is set correctly."
[03:37] <chris_scumm> ha yes:!
[03:37] <chris_scumm> ???
[03:37] <hydan> brb
[03:37] <chris_scumm> a crash maybe
[03:37] <titanix88> hydan:could u use rain or snow with it? I have nv 5200fx but with xgl does not work.
[03:38] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: ?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> well, I'm afraid to logoff cuz my pw is obviously gone
[03:38] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: don't panik
[03:38] <BluesKaj> not panicking...just waiting for a fix :)
[03:39] <chris_scumm> "man" dont tell hox to config it
[03:39] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: what do you want to do
[03:39] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: just a sec
[03:39] <feniks> hello why i cant get wireless connection in knetworkmanager
[03:39] <BluesKaj> access the terminal first of all
[03:40] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: you open konsole you don't need su
[03:40] <titanix88> feniks: did u try Zeroconf?
[03:40] <BluesKaj> " error when I try to open the konsole : "Konsole is unable to open a PTY (pseudo teletype)"
[03:41] <feniks> titanix88: no?
[03:41] <adi_> modprob remove [module name] 
[03:41] <feniks> titanix88: what's that
[03:41] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: did you log is in x?
[03:41] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22688/
[03:41] <PeterJB> Hi
[03:42] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: sorry, did you log in or not
[03:42] <titanix88> feniks: you find that in kcontrolcenter.it's a wireless related tool.
[03:42] <Graham> Could someone gimme a hand please, I've got a .mpg file but I don't know how to burn it to a DVD so it's playable
[03:42] <adi_> burn it with k3b
[03:42] <Graham> Do I need to split it into audio and video and put it into the 2 directories?
[03:42] <icecruncher> chris_scumm: that link tell you how to config. you just type "conky <option>"
[03:42] <adi_> nope
[03:43] <BluesKaj> yes icecruncher, logged in fine this morning...just changed some settings on the ntfs partition
[03:43] <Graham> Then how?
[03:43] <chris_scumm> oki
[03:43] <adi_> just burn it if it playes or not is depends on ur DVD player
[03:43] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: but now your not logged in?
[03:43] <adi_> just use k3b
[03:43] <BluesKaj> seems so
[03:43] <Graham> adi_: And do what with it?
[03:43] <titanix88> Graham: just cpy your .mpg  just like an ordinary data.
[03:43] <BluesKaj> well, I''l try to relogin
[03:44] <icecruncher> BluesKaj: are you trying to log in in terminal mode or visual?
[03:44] <Graham> And it doesn't work.
[03:44] <adi_> use k3b and burn the file to a DVD media
[03:45] <Graham> It says it doesn't have all the necessary files videoDVD files.
[03:45] <icecruncher> how can you find out the x y position of your mouse?
[03:45] <Graham> And if I just burnt the file, it wouldn't play on my DVD player.
[03:45] <adi_> do you have one .mpeg file?
[03:45] <Graham> .mpg, yes
[03:46] <adi_> then  your DVD prbebly doent support the format and you need to convert it
[03:47] <Graham> No shit! Sherlock? What do I convert it to?
[03:47] <adi_> try to convert it to .AVI
[03:48] <Graham> You don't have a clue do you?
[03:48] <adi_> listen m8 im telling you what you need to do you dont like it then im sorry
[03:48] <Graham> No because you're wrong, the AVI file gives the same problem.
[03:49] <makuseru> would somthing i did in a term before i logged in be in the system logs?
[03:49] <PeterJB> dvd's are encoded as mpg2 by default
[03:50] <PeterJB> you will need to use a piece of software designed for creating video dvd's - just thinking of name
[03:50] <adi_> thats what im saying:)_
[03:50] <makuseru> devede
[03:50] <adi_> convert the file and your home free
[03:51] <PeterJB> convert file to mpeg 2 then use a piece of software called dvd author which will create the file structure etc (it might even convert the video, don't know as i use a media server and never make dvd's)
[03:51] <PeterJB> hope that helps
[03:52] <PeterJB> dvd author should be in the repositories - check adept in kubuntu or synaptic on ubuntu
[03:54] <PeterJB> kmediafactory is good or so i'm told for creating dvd's as well
[03:55] <Graham> adi_: You told me to convert it to avi, that's hardly what you said!
[03:56] <Graham> PeterJB: That'll probably work, cheers
[03:56] <adi_> listen thats what those program do they convert files to diffrent types
[03:56] <PeterJB> Your welcome
[03:57] <PeterJB> yeah but not to avi
[03:57] <adi_> depends
[03:57] <Graham> No it doesn't!
[03:57] <adi_> AVI its just an uncompressd format
[03:57] <PeterJB> avi is not even a file format, its an extension
[03:57] <adi_> symantics
[03:57] <Graham> Most formats with .avi ARE compressed!
[03:57] <PeterJB> avi is usually xvid or divx which are both compressed and mpg4
[03:58] <PeterJB> mpg4 is used in high def broadcasts and possible high def dvd's
[03:58] <adi_> most when you convert you choose the compression
[03:58] <PeterJB> you normally encode in xvid or divx to archive video on a pc (in my case media server)
[03:58] <adi_> anyways this is how i used to do it i never said thats the only or the best way to do it
[03:59] <PeterJB> it is a good quality format but most dvd players wouldn't have the horespower to run it
[03:59] <mweijts> !beryl
[03:59] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:59] <PeterJB> some do support divx and xvid but your best bet is to use the software listed as they create the relevant file structure and navigation library
[04:00] <defrysk> to convert avi for dvd format I use ffmpeg and dvdautor
[04:00] <defrysk> simply on the cli
[04:01] <PeterJB> defrysk: thanks for that. the file was is mpg format originally, adi_ suggested converting it to avi before placing on dvd
[04:01] <Graham> defrysk: I like ffmpeg, it's been good to me.
[04:01] <defrysk> PeterJB, mpg can go straight to dvdauthor
[04:01] <defrysk> mpeg2 that is
[04:02] <makuseru> would somthing i did in a term before i logged in be in the system logs?
[04:02] <defrysk> Graham, ffmpeg is easy to use and faster then mencoder
[04:03] <|lostbyte|> makuseru, it would be in history.
[04:03] <Graham> I agree.
[04:03] <makuseru> makuseru: huh?
[04:04] <makuseru> haha oops
[04:04] <makuseru> |lostbyte|: huh?
[04:04] <|lostbyte|> lol
[04:04] <|lostbyte|> makuseru, history command.
[04:04] <makuseru> whats that
[04:04] <|lostbyte|> man history
[04:04] <hendaus> back
[04:05] <makuseru> |lostbyte|: thats not really what i was looking for, im trying to see somthing the comp told me while i was booting up, not somthing i typed in to the term tho
[04:06] <hendaus> helpers , on ktorrent,why i got this message,sa7alnoum has been stopped with the following error, cannot open /home/hendaus/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor1/cache/07.DAT, permision denied
[04:07] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, /var/log/boot
[04:08] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  what can i do ?
[04:08] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, you ran ktorrent from root it looks like.
[04:08] <|lostbyte|> previously.
[04:08] <ubuntu> Hello, I just wanted to ask something: The partition I'm installing Kubuntu on, It has to be Ext3 and logical, correct?
[04:08] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  so what can i do
[04:09] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, sudo chmod 777 -R /home/hendaus/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor1/cache
[04:10] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  ok then
[04:10] <|lostbyte|> the error should not persist..
[04:10] <epimeth> ahoy all!
[04:11] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  it shows error cannot open /home/hendaus/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor1/cache/1.DAT
[04:11] <chris_scumm> !adeptfix
[04:11] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[04:11] <|lostbyte|> ls -l /home/hendaus/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor1/cache/1.DAT
[04:11] <|lostbyte|> ??
[04:13] <sf55> hi, i'm runing kde4 but my window manager is broken/gone
[04:13] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  lrwxrwxrwx 1 hendaus hendaus 36 2007-05-27 01:42 /home/hendaus/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/tor1/cache/1.DAT -> /home/hendaus/movies/sa7alnoum/1.DAT
[04:13] <epimeth> sf55: kde4 is alpha... that doesn't surprise me :-)
[04:14] <|lostbyte|> ls -l /home/hendaus/movies/sa7alnoum/1.DAT
[04:14] <|lostbyte|> ??
[04:14] <epimeth> very few people (if any) will be able to help you with kde4 questions
[04:14] <sf55> epimeth: know, and is doesn't surpise me either
[04:14] <epimeth> lol
[04:14] <sf55> i'm just checking how its looking so far...
[04:14] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  -rwxrwxrwx 1 hendaus hendaus 581993036 2006-12-02 22:08 /home/hendaus/movies/sa7alnoum/1.DAT
[04:15] <sf55> but its not easy to see without a windowmanager :P
[04:15] <epimeth> you just installed it now?
[04:16] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  everything is ok now thanx :)
[04:16] <|lostbyte|> cool :)
[04:18] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  on windows i use a program call nokia suite for transfering files from cellphone to my pc, now on kubuntu what can i do?
[04:21] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, for transferring files you can use bucktooth.
[04:21] <|lostbyte|> kde works well the bucktooth devices.
[04:22] <secret> hey, is forcerain there?
[04:22] <forcerain> am now :)
[04:22] <forcerain> it working?
[04:22] <|lostbyte|> brb
[04:22] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  i have usb clabe kdu-2
[04:22] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  sorry dku-2
[04:23] <secret> No, but I installed Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn and I have sound! :D
[04:23] <secret> I like ubuntu, niceeeeee.
[04:24] <secret> I even installed konversation yo!
[04:24] <forcerain> YAY!!!!!!
[04:24] <forcerain> :D
[04:25] <secret> Thanks for your help during the day forcerain. It is much appreciated!
[04:25] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  my cellphone is nokia 6230b
[04:25] <forcerain> no problem, what i'm here for.. besides trying to get kisses off the chicks! :P
[04:26] <secret> hahaha :D
[04:26] <secret> Peace everyone, take care-peace! :d
[04:28] <kain> hello i am trying to get my wireless broadcom dell 1390 to work with ku 7.4 followed a faq yesterday installed a driver thought i was all good apparently not and looking for help please
[04:30] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, try Gnokii
[04:30] <|lostbyte|> kain, Join #bcm-users
[04:31] <kain> thanks
[04:31] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  gnokii is not for tranfering images, and i try it but doesnot work fine on mine, i dont know how to config
[04:33] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  can u help config gnokii to work with my cellphone
[04:33] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, why dont you get a bluetooth dougle.
[04:34] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, i use bluetooth for transferring stuff to my smart-phone.
[04:35] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  i dont have bluetooth dude
[04:35] <zblach> trivial thing: i've installed the xscreensaver-extra package, but i can't see them from the KDesktop ScreenSaver config utility. is there a quick fix?
[04:35] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  can u tell me if gnokii support nikia 6230b
[04:35] <hendaus> *nokia
[04:35] <|lostbyte|> nokia 6230 has bluetooth.
[04:36] <hendaus> yes
[04:36] <hendaus> but i have a usb cable dku-2
[04:36] <hendaus> i use this on windows
[04:38] <|lostbyte|> hendaus, i never used gnokii, see if this helps.. http://siddharthdawara.blogspot.com/2006/09/gnokii-dku-2-nokia-6230-linux.html
[04:38] <|lostbyte|> gtg..
[04:38] <|lostbyte|> bbl
[04:39] <hendaus> ok
[04:39] <sjapbnc5> XFCE on kubuntu
[04:39] <hendaus> |lostbyte|:  if i want to unistall gnokii what can i do
[04:39] <sjapbnc5> does that work ?
[04:39] <titanix88> hendaus: gnokii supports 6230(read it in gnokii faq) but there is no shortcut(u have to do a lot of this & thats)
[04:40] <titanix88> hendaus: type "sudo dpkg -r gnokii" & "sudo dpkg -r gnokii-xgnokii"
[04:41] <hendaus> titanix88:  so can u help me with that
[04:41] <BluesKaj> the ntfs partition is enabled while on linux ...seems to be slowing things down , however when try to disable it , the kill processs freezes everything ...any suggestions  ?
[04:42] <kain> i need help seeting up my wifi i am having issues and no one is in bcm-users
[04:43] <titanix88> hendaus: i am not a tough GNU/linux pro, just a moderately knowlegded user. That was tough for me too ;0
[04:43] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok dont worry coz i feel sick with this gnokii coz it is not working
[04:43] <hendaus> i love windows
[04:45] <titanix88> hendaus: shhh! don't say that in a GNU/Linux forum. You will be totally burned.
[04:45] <sercik> if you love windows go to windows channel
[04:46] <sercik> i love linux and use windows only for autocad!
[04:46] <hendaus> ah ok
[04:46] <sercik> and if you don't love linux is becasue you don't know it good...
[04:47] <titanix88> sercik: cracks of autoCAD works with wine.
[04:47] <hendaus> yes coz i never read about it :)
[04:47] <BluesKaj> I have windows cuz i need it dor some stuff that kubuntu can't do due to the poor ATI and HP linux support , but otherwise i spend 99% of my pc time on Kubuntu.
[04:47] <hendaus> but why amsn doesnot have microphone to talk?
[04:47] <sercik> poor hp support! my printer works very good
[04:48] <jussi01> !wireless | kain
[04:48] <ubotu> kain: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:48] <sercik> with amsn it is possible to do audio chat
[04:48] <polopolo> Hello all, is the following link also good for kubuntu?
[04:48] <kain> i've read all that
[04:48] <jussi01> BluesKaj: hp support is _very_ good!!
[04:48] <kain> and followed a  tutorial
[04:48] <polopolo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phbc50/howtos/how-to_reinstall_grub?highlight=%28grub%29
[04:48] <kain> i had it recognizing networks and stuff
[04:48] <polopolo> ?
[04:48] <BluesKaj> sercik, yes as does mine, but my scanner sucks on kubuntu
[04:48] <hendaus> so is there a messenger that have mic?
[04:48] <kain> when i try to connect it hangs at configuring ip
[04:49] <titanix88> BlusKaj: there is even a HP/Linux Printing & Imaging System loading in boot time!!!!!!
[04:49] <Graham> polopolo: Yes, grub has nothing to do with what desktop enviroment you're using.
[04:49] <polopolo> ok
[04:49] <sercik> i use amsn on windows and it works good i think that also on linux it works
[04:49] <polopolo> And what to do if I have windows xp and ubuntu, how must I then set windows xp back on grub?
[04:50] <sercik> this is not  a problem
[04:50] <polopolo> kubuntu sorry
[04:50] <sercik> ubuntu automaticallyu adds windows in grub
[04:50] <titanix88> sercik: what is amsn?
[04:50] <polopolo> sercik, was that for me?
[04:50] <sercik> amsn is the better free clone of msn (windows)
[04:51] <sercik> polopolo: ubuntu automaticallyu adds windows in grub, don't worry
[04:51] <Graham> polopolo: That tutorial restores grub to the MBR, it doesn't touch the menu.lst file which is where the menu is.
[04:51] <hendaus> titanix88: dont let me unistall gnokii from kubuntu, can u help me :)
[04:51] <sercik> but to be sure you can create a rescue floppy in windows
[04:51] <Graham> Just do it, it'll work.
[04:51] <polopolo> ok thank you for you're help (again) bye
[04:51] <Graham> sercik: That's really unecessary.
[04:51] <sercik> and use it to do fdisk /mbr
[04:51] <hendaus> titanix88:  Solution 1]  Download the gnokii source. Unzip to /usr/local/src/<-- now tell me what can i do here
[04:51] <hendaus> titanix88:  this is the url http://siddharthdawara.blogspot.com/2006/09/gnokii-dku-2-nokia-6230-linux.html
[04:52] <sercik> what is gnokii??
[04:52] <hendaus> sercik:  gnokii is a program for cellphones and sms
[04:52] <titanix88> sercik: gnokii is software to connect NOKIA phones with linux.
[04:53] <sercik> i can't understand you want uninstall or install it from source?
[04:53] <titanix88> hendaus: i can try!!
[04:53] <sercik> do you have an old version installed and d oyou want to compile new from source?
[04:53] <hendaus> sercik: i want to config it
[04:53] <titanix88> hendaus: but it does not do images!!
[04:54] <hendaus> titanix88:  so click on " gnokii source" and tell me which one i download
[04:54] <sercik> so search for a guide on internet!
[04:54] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok no problem coz i need it for messages :)
[04:54] <sercik> this is kubuntu and not gnokii channel
[04:54] <hendaus> sercik:  http://siddharthdawara.blogspot.com/2006/09/gnokii-dku-2-nokia-6230-linux.html
[04:54] <sercik> i'm not interesting in gnokii
[04:55] <titanix88> hendaus: cmd line:" cd /usr/local/src/" "./confiure" "./make" "make install"
[04:56] <hendaus> titanix88:  where i add this
[04:56] <titanix88> hendaus: it will install gnokii frm source.
[04:56] <sercik> to compile a program from source the procedure is sudo ./configure
[04:56] <sercik> and see for eventually error messagges
[04:56] <sercik> then if configure tells all ok do make
[04:56] <jussi01> !source
[04:57] <sercik> and then sudo make install
[04:57] <ubotu> You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html
[04:57] <jussi01> gah
[04:57] <jussi01> !build
[04:57] <hendaus> titanix88:  paste this on terminal --> cmd line:" cd /usr/local/src/" "./confiure" "./make" "make install"
[04:57] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:57] <titanix88> hendaus: "cd /usr/local/src" means changing ur current directory to /usr/local/src . do it!
[04:57] <sercik> thereis an erro
[04:57] <sercik> and this is not the right method
[04:58] <sercik> he before need to do sudo ./configure and see the output and then go to make
[04:58] <hendaus> ok i did cd /usr/local/src
[04:58] <sercik> do ls
[04:59] <titanix88> sercik: ur right! i told it too fast. help me explain it.
[04:59] <hendaus> ok after ls
[04:59] <sercik> hendaus:
[04:59] <sercik> download source
[04:59] <hendaus> which source?
[04:59] <sercik> then open a konsole and go in directory where you have downloaded
[04:59] <hendaus> there are many
[05:00] <sercik> this is your problem
[05:00] <sercik> i can't explain gnokii
[05:00] <sercik> i can explain how to biuld a program
[05:00] <titanix88> hendaus: upacked ur .gzip to /usr/local/src/ didn't u?
[05:00] <sercik> start from the beginning pease
[05:00] <sercik> please
[05:01] <hendaus> titanix88:  how tell me :)
[05:01] <sercik> in wich folder have you saved file?
[05:01] <sjapbnc5> Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[05:01] <sjapbnc5> Anyone know how to fix this
[05:01] <sercik> that you donwloaded from internet?
[05:01] <sjapbnc5> Domino0.4
[05:01] <Hobbsee> sjapbnc5: install kde-devel
[05:01] <hendaus> i didnt got any file?
[05:02] <sjapbnc5> Thanks :)
[05:02] <sercik> Solution 1]  Download the gnokii source. Unzip to /usr/local/src/
[05:02] <sercik> have you done it?
[05:02] <oskar_> hay
[05:02] <hendaus> no
[05:03] <hendaus> there are many sources
[05:03] <sercik> hendaus we can't help you
[05:03] <sercik> or if someone here have a nokia and have done that procedure
[05:03] <hendaus> sercik:  http://www.gnokii.org/download/gnokii/ look here and tell me whch one
[05:03] <sercik> goodbye
[05:03] <sercik> hendaus: i can't do work for you!
[05:04] <sercik> sorry :)
[05:04] <sercik> goodbye to all
[05:04] <hendaus> ok thanx
[05:04] <hendaus> dont worry coz i feel here several hours and no one help
[05:04] <titanix88> hendaus: http://www.gnokii.org/download/gnokii/gnokii-0.6.16.tar.gz
[05:05] <hendaus> titanix88:  thanx dude
[05:05] <BluesKaj> hendaus, your problem is extremely specific and rare ...if ppl ahaven't encountered a simsilar problem who are in this at this time , then you do some research on your own to try tosolve your problem
[05:06] <hendaus> titanix88:  now i am learning from you :) now how to make unzip this file
[05:07] <hendaus> BluesKaj:  yes maybe :(, but i like someone helps or waiting till i found one :)
[05:07] <titanix88> hendaus: "sudo cp ./gnokii-0.6.16.tar.gz  /usr/local/src/" will copy the file frm ur home directory to /usr/local/src
[05:08] <hendaus> titanix88:  cp: cannot stat `./gnokii-0.6.16.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[05:09] <titanix88> hendaus: try it "sudo cp ~/gnokii-0.6.16.tar.gz  /usr/local/src/" will copy the file frm ur home directory to /usr/local/src
[05:10] <hendaus> oh coz i am at /usr/local/src directory
[05:10] <titanix88> hendaus: u got it :)
[05:11] <hendaus> titanix88:  hendaus@hendaus:/usr/local/src$    i have on konsole this
[05:11] <hendaus> remember i make cd /usr/local/src
[05:12] <titanix88> hendaus: "~" means ur home direc. so it always works no matter where u are.
[05:12] <cox377> hey all, does anyone user NCFTP?
[05:12] <sqrt_> Ask me anything!
[05:12] <hendaus> titanix88:  how can i got back to home
[05:13] <titanix88> hendaus: "cd ~"
[05:13] <hendaus> ok
[05:13] <titanix88> hendaus: "sudo cp ./gnokii-0.6.16.tar.gz  /usr/local/src/" will copy the file frm ur home directory to /usr/local/src
[05:14] <hendaus> titanix88:  cp: cannot stat `./gnokii-0.6.16.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[05:15] <titanix88> hendaus: did u dload the source in your home?
[05:15] <hendaus> oh wiat i have it on a folder
[05:15] <hendaus> ok done
[05:16] <hendaus> titanix88:  i move the file to home and i type the code u gave me
[05:17] <titanix88> hendaus: change ur directory to /usr/local/src/ "cd /usr/local/src" & ungzip it"sudo gunzip gnokii-0.6.16.tar.gz"
[05:18] <cox377> for some reason when using ncftp and i run get -R XXX directory all it does it download the folder names and not the files with them, anyone got any ideas?
[05:18] <hendaus> titanix88:  hendaus@hendaus:/usr/local/src$ sudo gunzip gnokii-0.6.16.tar.gz
[05:19] <titanix88> hendaus: yes.
[05:19] <hendaus> ok
[05:21] <titanix88> hendaus: wait.
[05:21] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok
[05:27] <titanix88> hendaus: un tar it"sudo tar -xvf gnokii-0.6.16.tar" u will find a folder named gnokii-0.6.16 by" ls"
[05:28] <secret> Hey!
[05:28] <titanix88> hey
[05:28] <juan> hey
[05:28] <secret> One more thing, how to install Java Runtime enviroment on firefox (ubuntu
[05:28] <juan> q pas
[05:28] <secret> ?
[05:28] <secret> How do I install?
[05:29] <secret> Ubuntu 7.04
[05:29] <secret> Wait.
[05:29] <frojnd> does anyone know for any good program for edit mpg format?? I just bought handy cam HDTV and picture is great, I just need some program to edit movies...
[05:29] <secret> How do I install Java runtime enviroment on Ubuntu 7.04 feisty fawn?
[05:29] <titanix88> secret: maybe install sun-java5-jre
[05:30] <hendaus> titanix88:  yes but severals
[05:30] <defrysk> sun-java6-plugin
[05:30] <secret> Do you've code for teminal?
[05:30] <titanix88> secret:mine is 6.06
[05:30] <secret> sudo apt-get sun-java5-jre?
[05:30] <titanix88> hendaus:that's ok.
[05:30] <defrysk> also sun-java6-jre is available
[05:31] <titanix88> hendaus:"cd gnokii-0.6.16"
[05:31] <secret> Nope, didn't work!
[05:31] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok done
[05:31] <defrysk> secret, set up your repos
[05:31] <defrysk> !repos > secret
[05:32] <arthanix> I'm having problems booting after I installed my raid driver. I get the message "mount: unknown filesystem type: devfs" and the kernel panics.. I'd love some help. :)
[05:32] <titanix88> hendaus:configure it for ur system"sudo ./configure"
[05:32] <secret> ok guys
[05:32] <secret> starting to understand whats going on
[05:32] <tomcatt> hello all
[05:32] <secret> thx again
[05:33] <tomcatt> how do i go about fixing the dcopserver
[05:33] <hendaus> titanix88:  done
[05:34] <secret> so the res is add and remove?
[05:34] <secret> =D
[05:34] <titanix88> hendaus:does it say" Type 'make' for compilation and then 'make install'"then it's ok.
[05:34] <blekos> is there any command to reclaim ny ram?
[05:35] <hendaus> titanix88:  yes
[05:35] <defrysk> blekos, your ram is perfectly managed with linux
[05:36] <secret> can you guys tell me where the Temporary Internet File is within Ubuntu?
[05:36] <blekos> :) i believe that, but according to an eycandy i have, my ram is 1841/2026 used
[05:36] <blekos> that's quite a lot
[05:36] <secret> Like: C:
[05:36] <defrysk> blekos, good stuff thats where ram is made for
[05:36] <secret> \Documents and Settings\joebloe\local settings\temporary internet files
[05:36] <blekos> lol
[05:36] <defrysk> blekos, how much of it is cached ?
[05:37] <defrysk> blekos, unused ram is wasted ram
[05:37] <titanix88> hendaus: "sudo make" then "sudo make install"
[05:37] <hendaus> titanix88:  make: *** [install]  Error 2
[05:37] <blekos> well, my swap reads 33mb/ 1467
[05:37] <defrysk> titanix88, make does not require sudo
[05:37] <defrysk> only make install
[05:38] <hendaus> titanix88:  this happen when i type " make install "
[05:38] <defrysk> and with sudo checkinstall in stead of sudo make install a nice .deb is being created ;)
[05:38] <titanix88> hendaus: first "sudo make"
[05:39] <hendaus> titanix88:  yes i did it
[05:39] <defrysk> hendaus, got build essential installed ?
[05:39] <hendaus> titanix88:  first i tyoeL make after done i type make install
[05:39] <defrysk> ./configure ; make ; sudo make install
[05:40] <titanix88> hendaus: "sudo make" then "sudo make install"
[05:40] <defrysk> titanix88, why sudo for make ?
[05:40] <titanix88> defrysk: s/he is in a direc only for root(/usr/local/src)
[05:41] <hendaus> Please make sure to have /usr/local/lib in ,the system defaults or in /etc/ld.so.conf and run,/sbin/ldconfig at some time. Otherwise gnokii may,not work
[05:41] <defrysk> titanix88, he/she should get out of there then
[05:41] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok
[05:41] <hendaus> titanix88:  Please make sure to have /usr/local/lib in ,the system defaults or in /etc/ld.so.conf and run,/sbin/ldconfig at some time. Otherwise gnokii may,not work
[05:42] <defrysk> hendaus, if you want to set a program up in /usr/local the syntax is ./configure --prefix=/usr/local
[05:42] <titanix88> defrysk: s/he is trying sticktly follow a tutorial from some site.
[05:42] <defrysk> ahewell not my stuff
[05:43] <hendaus> thanx defrysk
[05:43] <tomcatt> !ubotu dcopserver
[05:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dcopserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:44] <titanix88> hendaus: "uname -r" and u will get ur kernell version.copy it.
[05:44] <hendaus> titanix88:  2.6.20-15-386
[05:46] <titanix88> hendaus: "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-2.6.20-15-386 " to dload kernel headers for ur system
[05:47] <hendaus> titanix88:  done
[05:48] <titanix88> hendaus:wait.
[05:48] <hendaus> now linux source right
[05:48] <Fahuadai> anyone reccommend a c++ ide?
[05:49] <hendaus> titanix88:  sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.15 , is it?
[05:51] <bcasanov> Hi all!  I just wanted to tell you that I have not been able to hear sound on my machine since I have installed  Kubuntu.
[05:51] <dr_willis> bcasanov,  and....
[05:52] <bcasanov> On the forums, I was suggested to try the command aplay -l to get information about my soundcard.  And the output is:
[05:53] <bcasanov> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[05:53] <bcasanov> card 0: I82801BAICH2 [Intel 82801BA-ICH2] , device 0: Intel ICH [Intel 82801BA-ICH2] 
[05:53] <bcasanov> Subdevices: 1/1
[05:53] <bcasanov> Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[05:53] <cox377>  and i run get -R XXX directory all it does it download the folder names and not the files with them, anyone got any ideas?
[05:53] <cox377> opps
[05:54] <cox377> does anyone know why in ncftp  and i run get -R XXX directory all it does it download the folder names and not the files with them, anyone got any ideas?
[05:54] <dr_willis> bcasanov,  is this a laptop?
[05:55] <bcasanov> No, this is a DEll Optiplex Gx150
[05:56] <dr_willis> well somthing is confusing.. one website hit says thats the info for the wireless card. not the soundcard.. they may be confused however.
[05:56] <dr_willis> http://www.ubuntux.org/still-no-sound-in-ubuntu-edgy-eft-6-10
[05:57] <dr_willis> mentions that card. this is an older pc?
[05:57] <dr_willis> they basicially you may need to load the modules manually. and you could try some of the various live cds (like knoppix) and see if they work and what module they load.
[05:58] <bcasanov> Yes, this is old..about 2000 or 2002, I guess, and it only has 256 MB of ram
[05:58] <dr_willis> sudo modprobe snd-cs4236
[05:58] <dr_willis> MIGHT load the proper module
[05:58] <titanix88> hendaus:i have a slow 4.1kbps connection so it takes time.
[05:59] <bcasanov> FATAL: Error inserting snd_cs4236 (/lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/sound/isa/cs423x/snd-cs4236.ko): No such device
[05:59] <dettoaltrimenti> when I delete folders from dolphin, they disappear, but they don't go to the trash and there's still the same amount of free space on my disk- where are they going?
[05:59] <titanix88> hendaus:but u should start installing linux-source-2.6.15
[06:01] <hendaus> titanix88:  sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.15 , is it? like this
[06:01] <titanix88> hendaus: yes
[06:05] <frojnd> does anyone know here for any program that can edit .mpg video and support some effects??
[06:05] <dettoaltrimenti_> when I delete folders from dolphin, they disappear, but they don't go to the trash and there's still the same amount of free space on my disk- where are they going?
[06:05] <dr_willis> bcasanov,  id say try some live cd's see if one works and see what modules its loading.. or tryloading all the modules :)
[06:05] <hendaus> titanix88:  done
[06:06] <titanix88> hendaus: but i have along way to go ;)
[06:06] <hendaus> oh
[06:06] <hendaus> titanix88:  is it finishing?
[06:07] <bcasanov> dr willis: How could I load all the modules?... I would like to try this option before loading some live Cds.
[06:07] <titanix88> hendaus: only two hours left :)
[06:07] <defrysk> tssss
[06:08] <hendaus> titanix88:  just tell me quickly please, coz it still a litlle thing
[06:09] <hendaus> titanix88: Unzip the source code by using sudo tar -xvvvf linux-source-2.6.15 remember you should be inside /usr/src/ when doing this. <-- how can i make this
[06:09] <dr_willis> bcasanov,  could do some more googling on that card perhaos find what module it needs.. or look i /lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/sound/isa/ and try loading those
[06:12] <titanix88> hendaus: "cd /usr/src/ " " sudo tar -xvvvf linux-source-2.6.15"
[06:13] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok
[06:13] <hendaus> titanix88:  tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:15] <defrysk> sudo tar xvwf
[06:15] <defrysk> not vvf
[06:15] <defrysk> v w not v v
[06:16] <defrysk> also check man tar
[06:16] <Jucato> ah interactive...
[06:16] <Jucato> strange switch :)
[06:16] <bcasanov> dr willis, I found on Google this page, http://www.symbianos.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/vaio_vx71p/index.html?rev=1.5, that says: The soundcard is Intel 82801BA-ICH2 AC'97 Audio and the following kernel modules work fine: i810_audio.o, ac97_codec.o
[06:17] <titanix88> hendaus:like defrysk says "cd /usr/src/ " " sudo tar -xvwf linux-source-2.6.15"
[06:17] <bcasanov> If that information is correct, how do I download or install those modules?
[06:18] <dr_willis> bcasanov,  those are the older modiules for the older kernels
[06:18] <dr_willis> new kernels use the .ko extension
[06:18] <hendaus> titanix88:  tar: linux-source-2.6.15: Cannot open: No such file or directory,tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:18] <dr_willis> there may be some i810_audio.ko or similer
[06:19] <dr_willis> modprobe  i810_audio    - MIGHT load it
[06:19] <dr_willis> lib/modules/2.6.20-15-generic/kernel/sound/oss/i810_audio.ko
[06:19] <hendaus> defrysk:  tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:20] <hendaus> defrysk: tar: linux-source-2.6.15: Cannot open: No such file or directory,tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:20] <defrysk> hendaus, use the tab button linux <tab> to autocomplete the package name
[06:20] <titanix88> hendaus:"cd /usr/src/ " "sudo gunzip linux-source-2.6.15.tar.gz" "sudo tar -xvwf linux-source-2.6.15.tar"
[06:20] <defrysk> you made an error in the package name
[06:20] <detto> when I delete folders from dolphin, they disappear, but they don't go to the trash and there's still the same amount of free space on my disk- where are they going?
[06:20] <titanix88> hendaus: electricity gone!later.
[06:20] <hendaus> titanix88:  gunzip: linux-source-2.6.15.tar.gz: No such file or directory
[06:21] <hendaus> defrysk: gunzip: linux-source-2.6.15.tar.gz: No such file or directory
[06:22] <defrysk> hendaus, key in ls
[06:22] <defrysk> and check if its there
[06:22] <hendaus> defrysk:  he is helping me from this site --> http://siddharthdawara.blogspot.com/2006/09/gnokii-dku-2-nokia-6230-linux.html
[06:22] <boss_> loool
[06:23] <hendaus> defrysk:  linux-headers-2.6.17-11          linux-headers-2.6.20-15      linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic , linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic  linux-headers-2.6.20-15-386  rpm
[06:23] <capcom> hi. i have a problem: after upgrading the system of a friend from edgy to feisty via adept, the clock in the task bar is gone. does somebody know something about this effect ?
[06:24] <defrysk> hendaus, i see
[06:24] <hendaus> defrysk: yes
[06:25] <defrysk> there is no zipped package there
[06:25] <hendaus> no
[06:25] <defrysk> and you wanted the kernel source there ?
[06:26] <hendaus> defrysk:  as it says on the site that i gave u
[06:26] <defrysk> what kernel do you have ?
[06:26] <defrysk> uname -r
[06:27] <hendaus> 2.6.20-15-386
[06:27] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.20
[06:27] <bcasanov> dr. willis, I have carried out the command you gave me.  Do I need to log out or restart so that I can hear the sound?
[06:27] <defrysk> hendaus, and also sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[06:28] <defrysk> hendous when done reboot first
[06:28] <hendaus> ok
[06:28] <hendaus> it needs 20 minutes to install
[06:28] <hendaus> now 15
[06:28] <defrysk> hendaus, it looks like you upgraded from dapper > edgy > feisty
[06:28] <hendaus> yes
[06:29] <defrysk> hence the i386 kernel
[06:29] <defrysk> also do a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <defrysk> to make sure you get all packages needed
[06:30] <Graham> I've got a problem, my typing box in Kopete is black and I can't figure out how to change colour.
[06:30] <hendaus> but why another time, is it take several hours when i make update from dapper -> edgy -> feisty
[06:31] <defrysk> hendaus, its important to have your system set up correctly before you start to tinker with it
[06:31] <defrysk> so patience is key
[06:32] <hendaus> defrysk:  so after sudo apt-get install linux-generic , i reboot and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ?
[06:32] <Neil-> mplayer http_proxy://myproxy.something.com:8080/http://wm-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/news/media_acl/mps/fix/news/world/video/96000/bb/96939_16x9_bb.wmv
[06:32] <Neil-> Hey guys, the above successfully plays a stream for me.. however, using th emplayer mozilla plugin, it hangs on 'connecting;
[06:32] <Neil-> what am I doing wrong?
[06:33] <defrysk> hendaus, would do, you kan also do the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop before rebooting
[06:33] <hendaus> ah ok
[06:36] <fernando> hi
[06:36] <fernando> i have a problem with my sound card
[06:37] <fernando> i have a laptop hp pavilion dv9010us,
[06:37] <fernando> y install kubunto 7.04 for amd 64
[06:37] <fernando> something have a ideas about how fix it
[06:38] <defrysk> hendaus, in the howto there is a typo so pay attention here :
[06:39] <defrysk> hendaus,  sudo tar -xvvvf linux-source-2.6.15 should be : sudo tar -xvwf linux-source-2.6.15
[06:39] <bcasanov> fernando, if you are having trouble hearing sound, then it seems we are in the same boat, because I'm having problems too.
[06:40] <hendaus> defrysk:  ok i type this after finishinhg linux-source?
[06:40] <paolo_> hi. can you suggest me an usb video cam well supported for kernel 2.6.x ? thnks
[06:40] <hendaus> xvvv replace to xvwf
[06:41] <defrysk> hendaus, the howto is pretty clear exept for the typo ;)
[06:41] <hendaus> thanx :)
[06:41] <hendaus> defrysk: i say on windows i was using a program for my cellphone nokia 6230 call nokia suite, and it transfer all imgaes from cell to pc
[06:41] <secret> where do I find more channels with this Konversation?
[06:41] <defrysk> hendaus, so after my suggested updates it should go fine
[06:41] <detto> where is the trash folder?
[06:42] <bcasanov> fernando, if your sound card is the same as mine, you could use dr. willis's advice that he gave to me.
[06:42] <hendaus> ok :)
[06:42] <defrysk> detto, .Trash in your home/username folder (hidden)
[06:42] <rothchild> secret press f5
[06:42] <ardchoille> Or open up konqueror and type in:  trash:/
[06:42] <rothchild> and then refresh channel list
[06:43] <secret> kool
[06:44] <detto> I'm using dolphin, and there's nothing in my trash folder, and I've deleted things, and I still have no space (it hasn't really been deleted)- how can I find and delete these files?
[06:44] <secret> is there a music chats
[06:45] <dr_willis> !find Maryam
[06:46] <ubotu> Package/file maryam does not exist in feisty
[06:46] <ardchoille> detto: two people have given you advice, have you looked?
[06:48] <bcasanov> dr. willis, does the modprobe  i810_audio command require a reboot to load the module?
[06:49] <detto> ardchoille I haven't gotten any advice- I asked the question a bunch of times because I kept getting kicked offline
[06:49] <exenatus> hej
[06:49] <detto> ardchoille can you copy and paste it for me- I'll check it out
[06:49] <Hobbsee> detto: it's in ~/.local/Trash
[06:50] <ardchoille> detto: < defrysk> detto, .Trash in your home/username folder (hidden)
[06:50] <exenatus> czy jest jakis polak??
[06:50] <scar> Anyone know of a windows media player, or equivalent, plugin for firefox.linux?
[06:50] <ardchoille> detto: < ardchoille> Or open up konqueror and type in:  trash:/
[06:50] <detto> ok, I looked in there, that folder is empty
[06:50] <exenatus> who help me??
[06:51] <exenatus> i have a problem
[06:51] <exenatus> help me please
[06:51] <scar> detto: hey dude
[06:52] <scar> detto: ubun tu wont allow root login via login screen?
[06:52] <ardchoille> scar: No, use sudo
[06:52] <exenatus> hey please help me i don`t know what is bad
[06:52] <ardchoille> !sudo > scar  Check the pm from the bot
[06:52] <scar>  i know about sudo
[06:52] <scar> just didnt know if i could login
[06:52] <scar> haha
[06:53] <scar> ardchoille: how about the media player plugin?
[06:53] <ardchoille> scar: No, root can't log in, it's a security feature.
[06:53] <ardchoille> scar: Hmm.. I don't use media so I can't help with that :(
[06:54] <scar> ardchoille: like, for websites that have media player as a plugin...
[06:54] <exenatus> why can`t i use su in konsole??
[06:54] <ardchoille> scar: If you mean codecs
[06:54] <ardchoille> !codecs
[06:54] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:54] <scar> :) ty
[06:54] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[06:54] <exenatus> scar polak??
[06:55] <exenatus> ardcholile: help me?
[06:55] <ardchoille> exenatus: You need to be using sudo
[06:55] <scar> exenatus: what about polak
[06:55] <ardchoille> !sudo
[06:55] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:56] <MaTiAz> Hey, how can I confirm that my nvidia drivers are working correctly?
[06:56] <exenatus> ardchoille : what will i do?
[06:56] <MaTiAz> I've tried using glxgears -info but that doesn't show anything about direct rendering
[06:56] <ardchoille> exenatus: You can start by reading that sudo page I the bot posted.
[06:57] <exenatus> scar: polak mean polish man
[06:57] <BluesKaj> try glxgears in the terminal , MaTiAz
[06:57] <MaTiAz> BluesKaj: Yeah, that's what I tried
[06:57] <BluesKaj> not -info, just glxgears
[06:58] <scar> im not polak
[06:58] <ardchoille> glxinfo | grep render
[06:58] <scar> exenatus: hey so ffmpeg2theora is a codec for wmv ?
[06:58] <detto> ok I found my problem- I have 2 partitions, one for media. When I delete things on the media partition, they go in a separate trash folder in the media partition. Can I get these trash items to go to my main trash folder?
[06:59] <scar> detto: prob mount it brotha
[06:59] <detto> it is mounted
[06:59] <scar> hm
[07:01] <scar> i don't remember how to fix that, detto
[07:01] <scar> i do remember, however, my buddy having hte same problem and we fixed itg
[07:01] <MaTiAz> Heh, I'm stupid
[07:01] <MaTiAz> nvidia-settings was all I needed to check :)
[07:05] <scar> ANYONE: does anyone know how to minimize the konversation irc client to the taskbar at top without being in the list of progs at bottom?
[07:06] <scar> or is htere a different client i should be using?
[07:07] <ardchoille> scar: You using gnome?
[07:08] <DillZZ> hello
[07:08] <bricoh> hello
[07:09] <scar> ardchoille: yeah
[07:09] <hendaus> defrysk:  brb , reboot
[07:09] <ardchoille> scar: I'm not sure if that a gnome question of a kde question.
[07:09] <exenatus> HELP
[07:09] <exenatus> sorry
[07:09] <exenatus> caps
[07:09] <bricoh> do anybody know how to get beryl to work out of the box?
[07:09] <ardchoille> scar: I would think that's a gnome question since it deals with gnome panels. Try asking in #ubuntu
[07:09] <scar> oh this is a kde channelk huh
[07:09] <exenatus> why when i write su in consola can`t be root
[07:09] <DillZZ> whats your gnome questino
[07:09] <DillZZ> su -i
[07:10] <DillZZ> sudo -i i mean
[07:10] <ardchoille> exenatus: Have you read that sudo page like I asked? It will answer that question for you.
[07:10] <hendaus> defrysk:  The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:,python-libxml2 refblas3 linux-headers-2.6.17-11-generic lapack3 gcc-3.4-base python-numarray linux-headers-2.6.17-11 libg2c0,,Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them
[07:11] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:11] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo autoremove
[07:11] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:11] <defrysk> geez
[07:11] <hendaus> which one
[07:11] <defrysk> sudo apt-get autoremove
[07:11] <exenatus> arrdchoille: sorry give me that again
[07:12] <ardchoille> hendaus: If you know you are going to have to use autoremove when you uninstall an app, you can save a step by doing: sudo apt-get remove --autoremove app
[07:12] <hendaus> defrysk:  done
[07:12] <ardchoille> exenatus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:13] <defrysk> hendaus, when all is done reboot
[07:13] <hendaus> brb
[07:15] <nnoeonn> Guys, i need help, can't get anything to work propely (haven't got any real experience in linux... :()
[07:15] <ardchoille> nnoeonn: Wanna narrow that down a bit for us?
[07:15] <adi_> whats the problems?
[07:16] <nnoeonn> For starsters, can't get any progs to stat up porperly
[07:16] <adi_> give us an example
[07:17] <nnoeonn> well, got a litle game, tibia, that i try to start up, but nothing happens -.-
[07:17] <nnoeonn> and im sure it's the right file im trying to use
[07:17] <ardchoille> nnoeonn: Try running it from a terminal and see if there's any error output
[07:17] <hendaus> back
[07:18] <adi_> shalom rodik:)
[07:18] <hendaus> defrysk:  back
[07:19] <defrysk> ah hendaus
[07:19] <defrysk> now lets go ;
[07:19] <hendaus> ok
[07:20] <defrysk> hendaus, download the gnokkii source
[07:20] <hendaus> defrysk:  i download it
[07:21] <defrysk> http://www.gnokii.org/download/gnokii/gnokii-current.tar.gz
[07:21] <defrysk> that one i guess
[07:21] <hendaus> defrysk:  gnokii-0.6.16.tar.gz
[07:21] <defrysk> should do too :)
[07:21] <Leonardo_mexico> gnokii is in the repos!
[07:21] <defrysk> righclick the file in konq and select extract here
[07:22] <hendaus> ok
[07:22] <defrysk> Leonardo_mexico, dont work
[07:22] <Leonardo_mexico> yeah thanks
[07:22] <hendaus> defrysk:  ok
[07:23] <defrysk> now sudo mv <the_extracted_Folder> /usr/local/src/
[07:23] <ricky_ds> hi folks
[07:23] <rothchild> nnoeonn did you follow the installation guide here@
[07:23] <rothchild> http://www.tibia.com/gameguides/?subtopic=manual&section=starting
[07:23] <ricky_ds> I'm trying to install kubuntu on an old machine with a floppy drive and a cd-drive, but which cannot boot from cdrom
[07:23] <ricky_ds> does anyone know where I can find a howto for that?
[07:24] <hendaus> defrysk:  mv: cannot move `gnokii-0.6.16' to a subdirectory of itself, `/usr/local/src/gnokii-0.6.16'
[07:24] <rothchild> ricky_ds something like this? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html
[07:25] <defrysk> hendaus, is it already in /usr/local ?
[07:25] <hendaus> yes
[07:25] <defrysk> good
[07:25] <defrysk> now sudo apt-get install gnokii
[07:25] <kkerwin> Hi, anyone know of software for linux to make use of the fancy stylus feature on some convertible laptops?
[07:25] <hendaus> defrysk:  i have it installed
[07:26] <Leonardo_mexico> the gnokii works for nokia phones too?
[07:26] <defrysk> hendaus, now cd /usr/local/src/
[07:26] <ardchoille> !info gnokii
[07:26] <ubotu> gnokii: Datasuite for the mobile phones (console & X). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.14-3 (feisty), package size 821 kB, installed size 2944 kB
[07:26] <hendaus> ok
[07:26] <Leonardo_mexico> thanks
[07:26] <hendaus> defrysk:  done
[07:26] <rothchild> ricky_ds there's lots http://www.jonlee.ca/installing-xubuntu-without-a-cd-drive-the-weekend-project-continued/
[07:26] <BluesKaj> geezuz , why don't you guys create yer own chat for #nokia..ok?
[07:27] <ricky_ds> rothchild: something like that. Will try to fiddle with that even though it's not exactly the approach I had in mind
[07:27] <defrysk> hendaus, when in /usr/local/src copy and paste this:
[07:27] <hendaus> ok
[07:27] <defrysk> sudo ./configure ; sudo make ; sudo make install
[07:27] <Leonardo_mexico> i have a question, if a want add memory ram to my pc, doesn`t make problems in ubuntu?
[07:27] <rothchild> ricky_ds there are a bunch of options http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&hs=vb1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=install+ubuntu+without+cd+drive&spell=1
[07:28] <ricky_ds> rothchild: the problem is, I _have_ a cd-drive, except it cannot boot from it. But instead of mounting the ISO, I will tell him to boot the cdrom. I think that should work, no?
[07:28] <BluesKaj> Leonardo_mexico, no it doesn't
[07:28] <hendaus> defrysk:  sudo: ./configure: command not found , make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop,make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[07:28] <Leonardo_mexico> ok thanks
[07:28] <ardchoille> defrysk: You should not compile using sudo, you only need sudo fpr the "make install"
[07:29] <defrysk> hendaus, are you in the gnoki folder ?
[07:29] <rodik> hello
[07:29] <defrysk> hendaus, cd <that folder>
[07:29] <defrysk> hendaus, and try again
[07:29] <hendaus> defrysk:  i have it select
[07:30] <rothchild> ricky_ds I thought you said it wouldn't boot from cd? if there is windows on that box already you may be interested in http://sourceforge.net/projects/instlux
[07:30] <kkerwin> Anyone know of any software for linux that supports tablet pc operation?
[07:30] <Leonardo_mexico> ok bye and thanks for your help!!
[07:30] <ricky_ds> rothchild: the bios doesn't know to boot from cdrom, that's the only prob
[07:31] <hendaus> defrysk:  done
[07:31] <defrysk> hendaus, cool
[07:31] <defrysk> now on to part 2
[07:32] <ricky_ds> rothchild: instlux? looks nice, I have only win98 on that box though and it says to be working for 2k, xp etc... Let's see...
[07:32] <BluesKaj> ricky_ds, do you know how to reset the boot sequence your BIOS ? you can usually do it by moving the cdrom to the first position in the list and save
[07:32] <hendaus> defrysk:  Please make sure to have /usr/local/lib in,the system defaults or in /etc/ld.so.conf and run,/sbin/ldconfig at some time. Otherwise gnokii may,not work <-- this shows with # at the end
[07:32] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo cd /usr/src
[07:32] <bcasanov> ricky, hey, I had a similar experience to yours, where I could not boot up from my Cd-rom, and even worse, from my hard drive.  I got that problem fixed though. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=426753&highlight=cannot+boot+from+neither
[07:33] <ricky_ds> BluesKaj: the problem is the bios doesn't offer the option to boot from cdrom at all. no cdrom in that list :(
[07:33] <_ikzelf_3> hi ppl
[07:33] <hendaus> defrysk:  sudo: cd: command not found
[07:33] <defrysk> hendaus, cd /usr/src
[07:33] <_ikzelf_3> i got a problem with my wlan on kubuntu
[07:33] <defrysk> sorry
[07:33] <hendaus> defrysk:  hendaus@hendaus:/usr/local/src/gnokii-0.6.16$  <-- i am here
[07:33] <defrysk> hendaus, cd /usr/src
[07:33] <rothchild> ricky_ds this looks even better http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[07:33] <ricky_ds> bcasanov: oh, gonna check that out, might be challenging. I'm learning for the LPIC1 so any challenge will be welcome
[07:34] <hendaus> defrysk:  ok
[07:34] <BluesKaj> ricky_ds, that's very strange...did you install the cdrom after buying the pc
[07:34] <BluesKaj> ?
[07:34] <DillZZ> whats wrong with your wireless
[07:34] <_ikzelf_3> it wont connect
[07:34] <defrysk> sudo tar -xvwf linux-source-2.6.15
[07:34] <DillZZ> what card, encryption?
[07:34] <_ikzelf_3> even with wep, essid hiding and mac adress recognising off
[07:34] <ricky_ds> BluesKaj: no, but the machine (it's a laptop) is from 1999-ish
[07:34] <_ikzelf_3> i got a ralinkg
[07:34] <_ikzelf_3> ralink
[07:35] <hendaus> defrysk:  tar: linux-source-2.6.15: Cannot open: No such file or directory,tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[07:35] <defrysk> hendaus, ls
[07:35] <DillZZ> is it onboard wifi, or add on card?
[07:35] <hendaus> defrysk:  linux-headers-2.6.20-15  linux-headers-2.6.20-15-386  linux-headers-2.6.20-15-generic  linux-source-2.6.20.tar.bz2  rpm
[07:35] <DillZZ> do an lspci -v and spit the output of the card
[07:35] <_ikzelf_3> its addonkard
[07:35] <_ikzelf_3> i know what tipe it is
[07:36] <_ikzelf_3> lspci -v?
[07:36] <_ikzelf_3> ok
[07:36] <_ikzelf_3> but i use windows now
[07:36] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo tar -xvjf linux-source-2.6.20.tar.bz2
[07:36] <BluesKaj> ok, ricky_ds , I know this the obvious suggestion but i have to make it : if you know the make and model of the cdrom , then search the net for the linux drivers
[07:36] <defrysk> hendaus, no
[07:36] <defrysk> sorry
[07:37] <_ikzelf_3> shall i reboot?
[07:37] <ardchoille> defrysk , hendaus: you are aware that software is supposed to be compiled by normal user, not root, right?
[07:37] <hendaus> defrysk:  it is installing many things
[07:37] <defrysk> hendaus, let it ride
[07:37] <ricky_ds> BluesKaj: the cdrom is working with linux (i know because I've installed knoppix 3.1 once upon a time). The real problem is with the bios. Thanks for your suggestion though
[07:37] <defrysk> it was the correct command
[07:37] <hendaus> defrysk:  i close it
[07:38] <defrysk> hendaus, redo
[07:38] <Snew> lol
[07:38] <hendaus> defrysk:  redo what?
[07:38] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo tar -xvjf linux-source-2.6.20.tar.bz2
[07:38] <rothchild> ricky_ds if you are feeling brave you could try http://goodbye-microsoft.com/
[07:38] <BluesKaj> knoppix recognizes the cdrom ...interesting ...it's a start
[07:38] <DillZZ> check this link your your wireless
[07:38] <DillZZ> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2721701
[07:39] <_ikzelf_3> hey thankx
[07:39] <ardchoille> defrysk , hendaus: Can you take that to another channel please, since you are blantantly violating Linux common practices?
[07:39] <defrysk> ardchoille, no
[07:39] <atidem> hello
[07:40] <ricky_ds> rothchild: I think this will load everything from the net, right? would be suboptimal since I've already got the cdrom...
[07:40] <hendaus> defrysk:  it is riding
[07:40] <defrysk> hendaus, cool
[07:40] <ardchoille> defrysk: Compiling software as root is a very bad idea and you may cause him plroblems later.
[07:40] <ricky_ds> but if you are talking about windows, then no problem ,I can get rid of that Win98...
[07:40] <defrysk> ardchoille, sure smartypants
[07:41] <hendaus> ardchoille:  but defrysk is a good helper and clever :)
[07:41] <hendaus> he doesnot falled witha ny mistake
[07:41] <BluesKaj> ricky_ds, if you're in windows ...maybe a BIOS firmware update is in order ...have you considered that ?
[07:41] <hendaus> defrysk:  done
[07:41] <rothchild> ricky_ds yes I think so I think you may need to go back to the first link I posted and try to find a way to bootstrap the system with a floppy and then access the cd from there?
[07:42] <defrysk> hendaus, now we have to make a symlink , copy and paste this :
[07:42] <ricky_ds> rothchild: that seems to be the most interesting apporach
[07:42] <defrysk> sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15 linux
[07:42] <hendaus> ok
[07:43] <rothchild> ricky_ds also worth thinking about if this machine is going to be able to run KDE it sounds pretty old, you may be better off looking at xubuntu or something even lighter like damn small linux
[07:43] <zorglu_> any status on the cnr stuff ? is it still on hold ?
[07:43] <defrysk> hendaus, do uname -r (need to check)
[07:43] <zorglu_> !cnr
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cnr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <thc4me> I've got a 64-bit box currently running OpenSuSE 10.1 (grub bootloader), can I install kubuntu (feisty, dual boot with suse) without any hassles?
[07:44] <ricky_ds> rothchild: yeah, I have xubuntu handy too. I just wanted to see what I can get out of that machine and if kde won't do, I will take xforce
[07:44] <hendaus> defrysk:  2.6.20-15-386
[07:44] <zorglu_> thc4me: not anymore hassle that any multiboot install
[07:45] <defrysk> hendaus, now let me see.....
[07:45] <hendaus> ok
[07:46] <aartoz> Hi!!
[07:46] <aartoz> I can't install grafic Nvidia driver on my kubuntu!!
[07:46] <aartoz> how do you install it??
[07:46] <defrysk> hendaus, cd /lib/modules/ 2.6.20-15--386
[07:46] <thc4me> I've got Ubuntu 7.04 on my laptop here, it was really easy to setup beryl (gnome desktop), is getting beryl up and running under Kubuntu just as easy?
[07:47] <hendaus> ok
[07:47] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux build
[07:47] <rothchild> rick_ds there's a good official how to here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromHardDriveWithFloppies
[07:48] <hendaus> defrysk:  ok
[07:48] <aartoz> please!!!!!
[07:48] <aartoz> i need help!!
[07:48] <rollerskatejamms> How do I rip DVDs with k3b. I select rip dvd, then the source, and then nothing happens.
[07:48] <rothchild> thc4me I've had no trouble getting beryl up under kubuntu even with the i810 driver
[07:48] <defrysk> hendaus, cd /usr/local/src/<yourextractedgnokkipackage>
[07:49] <ardchoille> aartoz: Help with what?
[07:49] <ardchoille> rollerskatejamms: k9copy is a good app for that.
[07:49] <jkelly_> hi guys, i need help getting a microphone to work in kubuntu feisty, i'm using an intel mac mini, sound card is intel high definition audio
[07:49] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, yeah but k3b is supposed to do it too
[07:49] <hendaus> defrysk:  which extract?
[07:49] <thc4me> any known issues with Nvidia fx5200, or is the nvidia driver stable with that hardware?
[07:49] <ardchoille> rollerskatejamms: I have never been able to get k3b to do it.
[07:50] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, hehe ok
[07:50] <hendaus> defrysk:  gnokii-0.6.16.tar.gz or the folder?
[07:50] <defrysk> hendaus, cd /usr/local/src/<gnokkiyourversion>
[07:50] <aartoz> i can't install graphic card drivers!!
[07:50] <ardchoille> aartoz: Which card?
[07:50] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, and it works fine with regular dvds? the description says its for dvd9
[07:50] <defrysk> hendaus, the folder you extracted earlyer
[07:50] <aartoz> Nvidia ge force 6600
[07:50] <sercik> there are specific program to rip dvd
[07:50] <sercik> try to search dor dvdrip
[07:51] <linija2> Need help: Anyone know how to get PCMCIA to load sooner in boot process? Thanks
[07:51] <ardchoille> rollerskatejamms: dvd9 is just another name for dual-layer dvd movie disks
[07:51] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, yeah i know
[07:51] <ardchoille> aartoz: Have you read the wiki page for nvidia card drivers?
[07:51] <rothchild> aartoz http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#how_to_setup_nvidia_drivers_in_7.04
[07:51] <aartoz> mmm
[07:51] <hendaus> defrysk:  cd /usr/local/src/gnokii-0.6.16
[07:51] <defrysk> hendaus, yes
[07:51] <aartoz> I use kubuntu 6.10
[07:51] <defrysk> hendaus, cd patches/kernel_2.6/
[07:52] <sercik> rollerskatejamms: see at www.exit1.org/dvdrip
[07:52] <rothchild> aartoz any reason why you don't want to upgrade to fiesty?
[07:52] <ardchoille> !nvidia
[07:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:52] <ricky_ds> rothchild: do you happen to know how to tell grub the device to boot from is the cd-rom? hd(0,0) is the first partition of the first hard drive, but the cdrom?
[07:52] <hendaus> defrysk:  ok
[07:52] <ardchoille> aartoz: That page has always helped me since dapper
[07:52] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo ./configure
[07:53] <zorglu_> any status on the cnr stuff ? is it still on hold ?
[07:53] <hendaus> defrysk:  ok
[07:53] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, It only seems to be able to rip to mpeg4, i want to rip the full dvd
[07:53] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo make
[07:53] <t1n0m3n> how do I enable the xgl stuff?  I can't seem to find it KDE.  I found it in gnome however
[07:53] <ardchoille> rollerskatejamms: k9copy?
[07:53] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, yes
[07:53] <hendaus> defrysk:  the last line: make: *** [module]  Error 2
[07:54] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, oh never mind i just select copy and output to iso right?
[07:54] <rothchild> ricky_ds no sorry I don't
[07:54] <ardchoille> rollerskatejamms: k9copy rips and burns dvd movies, I have used it and a know others who have used it. Maybe you need to tweak the settings?
[07:54] <defrysk> hendaus, hmmm
[07:54] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, nah i found it. oh and this is a dvd9. I need to buy some dvd9s
[07:54] <defrysk> hendaus, did you install linux-generic ?
[07:54] <sparr> Is there any way to make bash (or some other shell) expand wildcards in the order the files are present on the drive?
[07:54] <ardchoille> rollerskatejamms: No, k9copy shrinks the movies to fit on a dvd5
[07:55] <hendaus> defrysk:  yes
[07:55] <defrysk> do uname -r
[07:55] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, How does it do that?
[07:55] <hendaus> defrysk:  2.6.20-15-386
[07:55] <ardchoille> rollerskatejamms: I don't know exactly how, but it does it quite nicely.
[07:55] <hydan> hey guys! hope someone can help me out, i've searched google, the kubuntu wiki, and the kubuntu forums, but to no avail :P how would one go about activating the windows start menu button (i believe it's called the super button) to launch the kmenu?
[07:55] <jang_> hi
[07:55] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, does it delete extras or something maybe
[07:56] <defrysk> hendaus, shoud that not be 2.6.20-15-generic
[07:56] <defrysk> ?
[07:56] <dekc> hi can anyone help install my nvidia geforce
[07:56] <hydan> hey jang
[07:56] <hendaus> i dont know
[07:56] <ardchoille> !nvidia | dekc
[07:56] <ubotu> dekc: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:57] <rothchild> ricky_ds like this maybe http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Making-a-GRUB-bootable-CD-ROM.html
[07:57] <dekc> ok
[07:57] <defrysk> hendaus, you kernel version does not exist in feisty
[07:57] <dekc> but X crashes after that
[07:57] <dekc> ther's no other way?
[07:57] <hendaus> defrysk:  how can i know
[07:57] <xGrantx> is there a way to get the KDE applications menu in the right click options?
[07:58] <t1n0m3n> !xgl
[07:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:58] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, Hehe I really want to try out Kubuntu rather then Ubuntu but I just love the new ubuntu network manager.
[07:58] <MaTiAz> Hmm, what file is the login script?
[07:58] <t1n0m3n> thanks mrbot man :)
[07:58] <ardchoille> rollerskatejamms: I've never used a network manager
[07:58] <hendaus> defrysk:  i type isb_release -a
[07:59] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, Its not necessary for a desktop.  But for wireless, when you're constantly changing networks, its nice.
[07:59] <defrysk> hendaus, reboot and make sure to boot into kubuntu linux generic
[07:59] <ardchoille> rollerskatejamms: Ah, yeah.
[07:59] <rollerskatejamms> ardchoille, It would be a pain to CONSTANTLY reconfigure WPA supplicant by hand
[07:59] <hendaus> defrysk:  Distributor ID: Ubuntu,Description:    Ubuntu 7.04,Release:        7.04,Codename:       feisty
[07:59] <dekc> i have geforce mx 4000
[07:59] <ardchoille> hehe
[07:59] <dekc> should i install legacy or normal drivers?
[07:59] <defrysk> hendaus, reboot and make sure to boot into  linux generic
[08:00] <ardchoille> dekc: IS that card in the legacy list?
[08:00] <hendaus> defrysk:  how can i know to see if kubuntu linux generic
[08:00] <rothchild> ricky_ds I think that last link wasn't so good but thishttp://en.opensuse.org/Install_on_PC_that_can't_boot_from_CD
[08:00] <defrysk> hendaus, you have a choice in grub
[08:00] <dekc> where do i see the legacy list?
[08:00] <osvaldo> hola alguien q hable espaol?
[08:00] <rothchild> ricky_ds combined with this http://sourceforge.net/projects/btmgr/ is what you are looking for
[08:00] <ardchoille> !es
[08:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:00] <defrysk> !es
[08:00] <defrysk> too late , dang!
[08:01] <hendaus> defrysk:  ok brb
[08:01] <ardchoille> dekc: There is a link on that wiki page to the legacy cards list page
[08:01] <defrysk> hendaus, good luck
[08:01] <osvaldo> none
[08:01] <phlawless> anyone around any good with www.linuxmce.com
[08:01] <rothchild> rollerskatejamms !knetworkmanager
[08:01] <phlawless> media center add on for kubuntu
[08:01] <osvaldo> ubuntu-es and kubuntu-es is dead
[08:02] <ardchoille> :(
[08:02] <coreymon77> oaky
[08:02] <coreymon77> everyone
[08:02] <lupul> hi
[08:02] <dekc> Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver. These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA GPU driver releases.
[08:02] <dekc> The 1.0-96xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:
[08:02] <coreymon77> i have i huge favour to ask of everyone here
[08:02] <lupul> how can i start a program on my computer via openssh?
[08:02] <dekc> GeForce4 MX 4000  0x0185
[08:02] <coreymon77> im doing a school project
[08:02] <dekc> thanks a lot ardchoille
[08:02] <ardchoille> You're welcome :) dekc
[08:02] <coreymon77> and this project is a mock job interview
[08:03] <coreymon77> and i need to have a portfolio and everything
[08:03] <coreymon77> so ill cut to the point
[08:03] <dekc> i think i've installed the wrong driver
[08:03] <lupul> ktorrent oftenly dies, so i'd like to start it from another computer, but still run it onto mine
[08:03] <coreymon77> can everyone be quiet for a sec, and someone pretend to be having a problem with an atheros chip netowkr car
[08:03] <coreymon77> diand i can pretend to help them for a bit
[08:03] <ricky_ds> rothchild: basically http://en.opensuse.org/Install_on_PC_that_can't_boot_from_CD#Grub_and_Grub_booting is what I want to do, I just need to tell grub that he shouldn't boot from hd(0,0) or the like, but from the cdrom. That's why I asked you previously
[08:03] <coreymon77> to put in the portfolio for my school project?
[08:03] <dekc> i try it immediatly but one more question
[08:04] <ardchoille> xGrantx: Still here?
[08:04] <dekc> if X crashes how can i put xorg.conf backup that i have on my desktop in X11
[08:04] <coreymon77> can you guys do that for me?
[08:04] <hendaus> defrysk:  back
[08:05] <defrysk> found generic ?
[08:05] <rothchild> ricky_ds I'm working this out as I go along too buddy but it seems like the answer is on that page, you can do the floppy boot and use smart boot manager to boot from cd without needing to hack grub
[08:05] <ardchoille> coreymon77: Why not take that person to #coreymon77 ?
[08:05] <xGrantx> ardchoille: back, sorry...
[08:05] <hendaus> i see on the forst line ubuntu kernel something like that and disappear immediately
[08:05] <ardchoille> xGrantx: You want the applications menu in the right-click desktop menu>?
[08:05] <defrysk> hendaus, uname -r
[08:05] <xGrantx> yes
[08:05] <hendaus> defrysk:  i dont knwo where exactly to see generic
[08:06] <coreymon77> ardchoille: becuase the point here is that it would be in the support channel
[08:06] <lupul> hi. need some help. because ktorrent oftenly dies i'd like to start it from another computer, but still run it on mine. can anyonje help me?
[08:06] <hendaus> defrysk:  2.6.20-15-386
[08:06] <ardchoille> xGrantx: Open kcontrol, go to Desktop -> Behavior and look in the options for Middle button under Mouse Button Actions.
[08:06] <hydan> i've found that in the kcontrol->accessibility->keyboard shortcuts menu, "general shortcuts" tab, there is an option to use set a shortcut to the launch menu. will kde not allow you to just use the windows button for this?
[08:06] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:06] <ardchoille> xGrantx: Or you can use the right button.
[08:06] <hendaus> defrysk: is there a problem if we are not making this config by root?
[08:07] <coreymon77> ardchoille: thats the point of it in the first place
[08:07] <dekc> <ardchoille: can i do mv /home/me/Desktop xorg.conf /etc/X11???
[08:07] <xGrantx> oh ok
[08:07] <hydan> i guess i'll stop complaining, i like using alt+f1 better anyway.
[08:07] <xGrantx> thanks
[08:07] <dekc> if X crashes
[08:07] <hydan> the windows button does seem more fit as a combination key
[08:08] <coreymon77> cna someone here atleast pretend to have a wireless problem so that i cant pretend to help them, just for a bit? i really need this
[08:08] <terrestre> !es
[08:08] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:08] <ardchoille> hydan: In Panel -> Popup Launch Menu, you should be able to just click the Custom action, type a key and go.
[08:09] <defrysk> hendaus, installing ?
[08:09] <lupul> hi. need some help. because ktorrent oftenly dies i'd like to start it from another computer, but still run it on mine. can anyonje help me>?
[08:09] <hendaus> defrysk:  yes
[08:09] <defrysk> hendaus, great
[08:09] <defrysk> likely you need some packages to compile properly
[08:09] <hendaus> defrysk:  done
[08:10] <coreymon77> !patience | lupul
[08:10] <ubotu> lupul: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:10] <defrysk> hendaus, cd /usr/local/src/gnokii-{version_number}
[08:10] <chris_scumm> hey there igot an issue
[08:10] <terrestre> hi, someone know how to put the list of user in kdm? i made a modification in to access manager but nothing happend
[08:10] <hendaus> defrysk:  ok
[08:10] <defrysk> hendaus, cd patches/kernel_2.6/
[08:10] <intelikey> howto probe a monitor ?       i can't recall the command....
[08:11] <chris_scumm> how do i select the app to lauch when i plug my usb
[08:11] <chris_scumm> and/or select do nothing, opren in konqeror etc
[08:11] <hendaus> defrysk:  ok
[08:12] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo ./configure
[08:12] <rothchild> chris_scumm what kind of usb devce?
[08:12] <chris_scumm> ipod
[08:12] <hendaus> defrysk:  ok
[08:12] <defrysk> hendaus, sudo make
[08:12] <chris_scumm> i cant mount it automatically
[08:12] <ardchoille> chris_scumm: I believe that's in kcontrol -> Preipherals -> Storage Media
[08:13] <hendaus> defrysk:  this is the last line: make: *** [module]  Error 2
[08:13] <chris_scumm> where is k cobntrol?
[08:13] <ardchoille> chris_scumm: open a term and type: kcontrol
[08:13] <defrysk> hendaus, pastebin last part of the output please
[08:13] <sercik> i can't find some programs in the menu for example kmail!!
[08:13] <terrestre> i dont know why kubuntu doesnot have kcontrol in the menu
[08:13] <chris_scumm> your the best ;)
[08:14] <osvaldo> gnome is the best
[08:14] <terrestre> ajaja
[08:14] <phlawless>  anyone know how to install www.linuxmce.com please let me know using kubuntu
[08:15] <osvaldo> why you DONT USE gnome?
[08:15] <hendaus> defrysk:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22720/
[08:15] <coreymon77> osvaldo: screw off
[08:15] <sercik> terrestre is impostazioni di sistema
[08:16] <coreymon77> sercik: english only here please
[08:16] <chris_scumm> may be you can help me to manage files with archoille
[08:16] <rothchild> chris_scumm there are a budle of ipod related libraries and apps if you have a search with adept you should see them
[08:16] <chris_scumm> ardchoille
[08:16] <defrysk> hendaus, does not look good :(
[08:16] <chris_scumm> ok
[08:17] <hendaus> defrysk:  :(
[08:17] <rothchild> !ipodslave
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ipodslave - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:17] <intelikey> phlawless http://wiki.linuxmce.com/index.php/Installation_Guide
[08:17] <scar> !gcc
[08:17] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:17] <rothchild> !gtkpod
[08:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gtkpod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <scar> !gcc install
[08:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gcc install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:18] <phlawless> if can one can help me with linux mce instal send me a pm thanks
[08:18] <phlawless> brb
[08:18] <defrysk> hendaus, one advise in the first place ; if you have upgraded from dapper > edgy > feisty it might be time to do (if possible) a fresh install and then try again otherwise you have to ask someone else
[08:18] <scar> Does anyone know how to install the gcc compiler? I'm having an awful hard time.
[08:18] <ardchoille> scar: Are you looking for build-essential ?
[08:18] <defrysk> you might have to as someone else anyway
[08:18] <hendaus> defrysk:  i have installed from a cd live the program that was working on windows
[08:18] <ardchoille> !build-essential
[08:19] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:19] <hendaus> defrysk:  how can i uninstall the program with wine
[08:19] <scar> ardchoille: looking for something that will compile anyhtime i need it to, like when i run a ./configure it says no compiler founmd
[08:19] <defrysk> hendaus, dunno
[08:19] <defrysk> sorry
[08:19] <ardchoille> scar: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:20] <hendaus> so no solution :(
[08:20] <scar> ardchoille: i just typed that in my gcc root directory, and it started doin shit-- im assuimg the gcc is a build-essentiaol
[08:20] <intelikey> !b-e | scar
[08:20] <ubotu> scar: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:20] <defrysk> scar, also wise might be a sudo apt-get build dep <package> to get the needed dependencies
[08:20] <ardchoille> scar: Although, I have found that once I enabled universe and multiverse repos, I didn't have to compile anything because the repos are hugs.
[08:21] <scar> im goign to swtich irc clients. brb
[08:21] <hendaus> defrysk:  thanx for helping me,now brb lunching time
[08:21] <jang_> I'm trying to print from a client in subnet A to a cups-server in subnet B. routing seems to work, but client can't find or print. sth special to configure? please help.
[08:21] <EL> HOLA
[08:21] <scar> whats the best one for people ot use? xchat?
[08:22] <EL> DE DONDE ERS
[08:22] <scar> soy del tejas, estados unidos
[08:22] <EL> SOY  ESPAOL
[08:22] <scar> estoy*
[08:22] <EL> YO DE   VENEZUELA
[08:22] <EL> SUR AMERICA
[08:22] <scar> mi amigo esta venezuela
[08:22] <morvok> is it safe to roll back a fiesty kernel to 2.6.11?
[08:22] <EL> SI
[08:22] <intelikey> scar best * is a subjective and contriversial word.   the " best one "  is the one you like the best.
[08:23] <scar> lol, true
[08:23] <EL> YTU  EN DONDE  ESTAS  EN ESTE MOMENTO
[08:23] <coreymon77> !es | EL
[08:23] <ubotu> EL: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:23] <ardchoille> !es | EL
[08:24] <terrestre> exit
[08:24] <terrestre> jajaja
[08:24] <fogwar> habla espanol?
[08:24] <ardchoille> !es
[08:24] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:24] <fogwar> haha i know
[08:24] <fogwar> lol
[08:25] <fogwar> im scar, but i had to chose a new unregied nick
[08:25] <coreymon77> fogwar: becuase?
[08:25] <fogwar> Hey, what's a good allround script for xchat
[08:25] <fogwar> i know i didn't have to, but i might as well register mine
[08:25] <intelikey> scar you will find people that will tell you that vi is the "best" editor, and people that would prefer to be beat to death with a rubber chicken than be forced to use vi....      same is true in a more of lesser degree for all "what's the best" questions i linux
[08:26] <BluesKaj> fogwar, konverstaion :)
[08:26] <fogwar> yeah i didn't like konversation very much
[08:26] <ardchoille> fogwar: Have you tried irssi?
[08:26] <fogwar> Yeh
[08:27] <fogwar> I'm looking for something that can be minimized to tray
[08:27] <fogwar> but,  brb i have to run across street real quick~!
[08:27] <BluesKaj> xchat is pain
[08:27] <intelikey> bx for the real irc L-users
[08:31] <intelikey> of   or           i    in               typo king still unopposed.
[08:31] <kaj_> heh..bitchx eh ... similar to irssi
[08:32] <intelikey> yes very similar
[08:32] <coreymon77> you guys mind me using this channel for a school project for a sec?
[08:33] <rothchild> corymon77 lol I have a problem with my wireless can you help?
[08:33] <coreymon77> sure
[08:33] <coreymon77> whats the matter
[08:34] <BluesKaj> as long as it isn't to do with nokiaphones again ;0
[08:34] <ryanakca> coreymon77: why don't you make your own channel? /join ##coreymon77
[08:34] <intelikey> coreymon77 and if you don't ask us to do your home work for you.  and don't flood the channel, i see nothing wrong with you asking about portions of your assignment
[08:34] <_6StringKng_> when I use K3b, it says I don't have some mp3 audio decoder installed, where could I get that?
[08:35] <coreymon77> intelikey: its nothign like that, i just need someone to pretend that they are having a wireless problem fo ra sec so that i can "help" them
[08:35] <coreymon77> intelikey: that alright?
[08:35] <defrysk> _6StringKng_,sudo apt-get install  libk3b2-mp
[08:35] <zorglu_> any status on the cnr stuff ? is it still on hold ?
[08:35] <defrysk> _6StringKng_,sudo apt-get install  libk3b2-mp3
[08:35] <defrysk> sorry
[08:35] <intelikey> well that might be better in  ##coreymon77
[08:36] <coreymon77> intelikey: i know, but that loses the effect a bit
[08:36] <lordgrunt> hi there
[08:37] <rothchild> hi lordgrunt
[08:37] <intelikey> coreymon77 ok.   but if any of the staff start to jump in you'll have to explain your self to them.   "quickly and politely"
[08:37] <ardchoille> coreymon77: How would it lose the effect? This channel is a support channel for kubuntu.
[08:37] <coreymon77> intelikey: i know, ive helped alot in this channel already, shouldnt be too much of a problem
[08:37] <sercik> someone knows a program to create menu automatically?? many program doesn't create a shortcut in menu..
[08:37] <coreymon77> ardchoille: thats the point, to be helping out with a linux problem
[08:38] <lordgrunt> i got problem with root account.  ienabled it some time ago, today it just refuses to work. as a additional problem this caused, i lost sound :/ anyone can help me?
[08:38] <intelikey> sercik menu
[08:38] <ardchoille> coreymon77: You can help with a linux problem in any channel.
[08:38] <sercik> hi intelikey i have tried to install it bu i can't see under my menu
[08:38] <coreymon77> okay, just type a bit more, so that i can hide the whole, asking you guys to do it thing
[08:39] <intelikey> lordgrunt head -1 /etc/passwd
[08:39] <sanelson_> i've added plf and canonical repos, but apt-cache doesn't show realplayer? What's the recommended way to get real support for Amarok
[08:39] <nahemoth__> Hee I got a message like this ""
[08:39] <nahemoth__> S SOFTWARE, YOU ACCEPT ALL OF THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT.
[08:39] <nahemoth__> 1.  DEFINITIONS. "Software" means the code identified above in binary
[08:39] <nahemoth__>     form, any other machine readable materials including, but not
[08:39] <nahemoth__>     limited
[08:39] <sercik> i'm using a modified kubuntu now..
[08:39] <nahemoth__> when I try to set up something..... How can I get rid of it
[08:39] <lordgrunt> intelikey, root:x:0:0:root:/root:/bin/bash
[08:39] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | nahemoth__
[08:39] <ubotu> nahemoth__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:39] <rothchild> !codecs | sanelson
[08:39] <ubotu> sanelson: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:40] <coreymon77> ardchoille: you know, youre right, i wont flood the channel
[08:41] <ardchoille> lordgrunt: Just FYI, root shouldn't even be enabled. I have been using *ubuntu since Warty and have never enabled root.
[08:41] <sercik> if i do menuedit i see some empty folder i see debian with nothing inside but i can't if i open menu
[08:41] <lordgrunt> ardchoille, thats not an answer
[08:41] <titanix88> hendaus: how r u going?
[08:41] <intelikey> lordgrunt can you sudo -i  ?
[08:41] <ardchoille> sercik: Empty folders won't be visible in the menus
[08:41] <hendaus> titanix88:  wb :(((( i am very bad
[08:42] <lordgrunt> intelikey, in fact, i can
[08:42] <titanix88> hendaus: where we were?
[08:42] <lordgrunt> intelikey, but with no results
[08:42] <titanix88> hendaus: where were we?
[08:43] <defrysk> titanix88, I worked with him and he is here :
[08:43] <intelikey> lordgrunt ok the account is working.   the passwd may not be.  you can lock the account    you can reset the passowrd
[08:43] <sercik> ok but the problem is that applications shortcut don't go inside
[08:43] <defrysk> titanix88, h]  Now go to the gnokii source /usr/local/src/gnokii-{version_number}/patches/kernel_2.6/
[08:43] <hendaus> titanix88:  defrysk help me anad nothing works fine :(
[08:43] <intelikey> lordgrunt wait "<lordgrunt> intelikey, but with no results"   you mean no error but not root afterwords ?
[08:43] <hendaus> defrysk:  loooooooool
[08:44] <defrysk> hendaus, give him the link with the error
[08:44] <lordgrunt> neither root nor any other output
[08:44] <defrysk> maybe titanix88 knows a way out
[08:44] <hendaus> titanix88:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22720/
[08:44] <lordgrunt> kdesu says its su communication error, in console su root gives:
[08:44] <intelikey> lordgrunt lets make sure we are on the same page of music before we dance.     sudo echo boo
[08:45] <lordgrunt> Password:
[08:45] <lordgrunt> su: Authentication failure
[08:45] <lordgrunt> Sorry.
[08:45] <titanix88> hendaus: u should appreciate everyone.
[08:45] <lordgrunt> intelikey, no output
[08:45] <intelikey> ok.
[08:45] <intelikey> and you can't login as root in a console either ?
[08:45] <hendaus> sure all helpers here i can appreciate them :)
[08:46] <intelikey> lordgrunt have a linux CD handy ?
[08:46] <lordgrunt> no chance, Konsole closes new root shell just after opening, giving password closes it as well
[08:46] <lordgrunt> i think so
[08:46] <intelikey> not konsole!    console.   alt+ctrl+f1
[08:46] <hendaus> titanix88:  i need a sloution
[08:47] <hendaus> titanix88:  did u read the error
[08:47] <lordgrunt> text mode console says login incorrect
[08:47] <titanix88> hendaus: u did not link it very well i think.
[08:48] <intelikey> lordgrunt ok.   you'll need to boot a cd and mount the system fs        can you handle that much of it without help ?    if so i'll give you a command to run that will fix it.
[08:48] <hendaus> huh
[08:48] <lordgrunt> intelikey, , i will do it
[08:48] <hendaus> titanix88:  so what i have to do
[08:49] <casper71> bonsoir
[08:49] <casper71> vous parlez francais ,
[08:49] <ardchoille> !fr
[08:49] <hendaus> ardchoille:  knows that we are not doing this as root
[08:49] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:49] <titanix88> hendaus: type "ls -l /usr/src/" and giveit to me
[08:49] <zorglu_> casper71: nope this is english channel, #ubuntu-fr got a lot of people tho
[08:49] <intelikey> lordgrunt ok when you get there  do this:   sudo chroot <mountpoint> passwd                    where <mountpoint> is the address you mounted the system on/at.
[08:50] <lordgrunt> ok, thats easy (i think :) )
[08:50] <casper71> OK THANK
[08:50] <lordgrunt> wasnt kubuntu supposed to have some tool for enabling root account?
[08:51] <zorglu_> !root
[08:51] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:51] <ardchoille> lordgrunt: I don't think so, unless the sudo model has been changed.
[08:51] <tony_> does anyone know how to install the gnome app installer on kubuntu?
[08:51] <intelikey> lordgrunt idk,   the "*buntu" people don't like root, they like root jr.
[08:51] <zorglu_> lordgrunt: the above link will give you how to unable root account
[08:51] <tony_> someone did it for me at work but now I want to do it at home and I can't remember how
[08:51] <intelikey> zorglu_ not likely  his sudo is broken
[08:51] <titanix88> hendaus: ?
[08:52] <intelikey> zorglu_ no root jr.  :)
[08:52] <zorglu_> intelikey: ah ok, i have follower
[08:52] <BluesKaj> zorglu_, Unable' ?
[08:52] <tony_> something like sudo apt-get intall gnome-installer, but that doesn't work
[08:52] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: enable with a mileading typo :)
[08:52] <hendaus> titanix88: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22720/
[08:52] <coreymon77> hwo do you check what kernel verison you are using
[08:52] <lordgrunt> weird is that i wasnt installing anything lately that i could blame for this issue
[08:52] <zorglu_> houla my english is off the ground :)
[08:52] <ardchoille> coreymon77: uname -r
[08:52] <zorglu_> i will shut up now :)
[08:53] <zorglu_> any status on the cnr stuff ? is it still on hold ?
[08:53] <intelikey> lordgrunt the passwords can have time limits on them.
[08:53] <zorglu_> this was my original purpose :)
[08:53] <sanelson_> ok, useful links; I have already installed w32codecs from the medibuntu repo, and the url for realplayer 10 from marillat gives a 550 from the common tasks page.
[08:53] <BluesKaj> cnr?
[08:53] <ardchoille> cnr = Click N Run
[08:54] <smaceda> hi
[08:54] <smaceda> can someone help me?
[08:54] <lordgrunt> intelikey, thats good idea. but it would say wrong pwd on login attempt. not login incorrect
[08:54] <zorglu_> BluesKaj: the linpire package stuff supposed to be easy to install. ubuntu made a deal with us some time ago
[08:54] <intelikey> GUI = that pointy clicky thingy    held over from M$
[08:54] <titanix88> hendaus: type "ls -l /usr/src/" did u do that?
[08:54] <smaceda> i just installed kubuntu 7.04 and want to activate restricted drivers for NVidia
[08:54] <ardchoille> lol intelikey
[08:55] <BluesKaj> linspire ?
[08:55] <ardchoille> !nvidia
[08:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:55] <titanix88> hendaus: type "ls -l /usr/src/" & paste the output pls.
[08:55] <hendaus> yes but not on local
[08:55] <intelikey> ok i gotta go for a bit.
[08:55] <BluesKaj> yeah the nokia buggers are back
[08:56] <titanix88> hendaus: local means?!
[08:56] <hendaus> titanix88: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22720/
[08:56] <BluesKaj> and i mean "bug"
[08:56] <intelikey> lordgrunt no.  login incorrect is the response for bad passwords too  iirc.
[08:56] <lordgrunt> hmm, today i modified my main user to add him to ftpuser group. might that be the cause?
[08:57] <hendaus> titanix88:  wait is this --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22729/
[08:57] <rothchild> sanelson I think mplayer seems to work better for playing realplayer stuff than amarok
[08:57] <intelikey> that would and did cause the sudoers (root jr.) problem  but not the root issue
[08:57] <lordgrunt> thats the only thing i recall that has anything to do with system
[08:57] <chris_scumm> how can i delete a file with the lock on?
[08:58] <intelikey> lordgrunt to correct it after you can access root you'll need to add your self to the "admin" group
[08:58] <ardchoille> chris_scumm: You can use sudo, but that file is probably a root owned file.
[08:58] <intelikey> lordgrunt anyone in "admin" is root jr.
[08:58] <chris_scumm> and?
[08:58] <chris_scumm> lol
[08:59] <lordgrunt> intelikey, but as i check now, im in group admin
[08:59] <ardchoille> chris_scumm: and.. are you sure it needs to be deleted?
[08:59] <chris_scumm> i am admin i should have the riht to delete it
[08:59] <ardchoille> ;)
[08:59] <chris_scumm> icant mouint my ipod!
[08:59] <chris_scumm> i want to delete it and recreate it
[08:59] <intelikey> cat /etc/sudoers
[08:59] <titanix88> hendaus: i understand u linked to a non existing directory.
[08:59] <hendaus> yes
[08:59] <ardchoille> chris_scumm: Correction: you are admin *when* you use sudo ;)
[08:59] <intelikey> don't flood  i don't need to see it.
[08:59] <chris_scumm> ok
[09:00] <rothchild> chris_scumm if you've installed that ipod lib thingy you should be able to do it all with amarok
[09:00] <titanix88> hendaus: " cd /usr/src/" "ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20 linux"
[09:00] <intelikey> i still have to run. lordgrunt luck with it.  i'm sure you'll be able to get it all stright from the cd.
[09:01] <lordgrunt> thanks anyway. cu
[09:01] <lordgrunt> ahh, to late
[09:01] <secret> hey guys is this Konversation only designed for linux related channels?
[09:01] <hendaus> titanix88:  ln: creating symbolic link `linux' to `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20': File exists
[09:01] <secret> I can't get music channels etc
[09:02] <PhinnFort> what provides the "Xi" library?
[09:02] <PhinnFort> I get this while trying to compile a game: "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXi"
[09:02] <ardchoille> secret: You'd have to add the new networks/channels to the server list.
[09:03] <neongrau> my system colors in kde get reset after each start of kde, anyone any idea how i can fix that?
[09:05] <hendaus> titanix88: ?
[09:05] <chris_scumm> sytill dont want to mount!
[09:07] <titanix88> hendaus: now"ls -l  /lib/modules/{your_kernel_version}/"you can get the kernel version using "uname -r"
[09:07] <titanix88> hendaus: paste it
[09:07] <chris_scumm> what is the command to del a file in the consol
[09:08] <ryanakca> chris_scumm: rm filename
[09:08] <bcasanov> Hi!
[09:08] <chris_scumm> ok :)
[09:09] <chris_scumm> cant work
[09:09] <chris_scumm> it says "..."is a directory
[09:09] <ardchoille> titanix88 , hendaus: ls -l  /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/  will work too
[09:10] <AutoMatriX> chris_scumm: try rmdir
[09:10] <chris_scumm> oki
[09:10] <chris_scumm> :)
[09:10] <titanix88> ardchoille: thnx didn't know that
[09:11] <hendaus> titanix88:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22732/
[09:11] <ricardo_> hi anyone knows how can i resize a ext3 partition? on qtparted the resize option appears disabled
[09:11] <ardchoille> ricardo_: Did you launch qtparted using kdesu ?
[09:12] <AutoMatriX> ricardo: did you unmount that partition ?
[09:12] <ricardo_> yes i run like root, and i haven't mounted
[09:12] <ricardo_> *unmounted
[09:13] <ricardo_> but i run the livecd, and there the partition is unmounted and the result is the same
[09:13] <AutoMatriX> ricardo: I'm doing the dirty way by resizing it with a live disk ... but there should be some other way
[09:14] <ricardo_> but I even with the livecd can't
[09:14] <gan|y|med> hi
[09:14] <tony_> does anyone know how to install the gnome app installer on kubuntu?
[09:14] <ricardo_> tony_: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[09:15] <titanix88> hendaus: "cd /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/" "sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux build"
[09:15] <simpsonrb> I need some networking help. I was trying to uninstall the knetworkmanager and accedentally uninstalled knetworkconf with it (in adept).  Now I can't connect to the net (obviously) and am unable to get the packages back...any help?
[09:15] <tony_> someone did it for me at work but now I want to do it at home and I can't remember how
[09:15] <tony_> something like sudo apt-get intall gnome-installer, but that doesn't work
[09:15] <gan|y|med> i have problems compiling/modprobing fglrx with envy (using feisty, kernel 2.6.21). i found this thread that solves the problem with compiling fglrx - http://www.phoronix.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-1033.html
[09:16] <gan|y|med> but now i cannot modprobe it: 'fglrx: Unknown symbol paravirt_ops'
[09:16] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok
[09:16] <gan|y|med> i googled it, but couldn't find anything. any ideas?
[09:17] <titanix88> hendaus: paste it pls
[09:18] <tony_>  thanx ricardo_, I remembered the app name was something like gnome-installer, but I'll give that a try
[09:18] <hendaus> titanix88:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22734/
[09:18] <ricardo_> tony_: np
[09:21] <gan|y|med> any ideas what this error means? 'fglrx: Unknown symbol paravirt_ops'
[09:21] <titanix88> hendaus: one mistake.do this"cd /usr/src/" "rm linux" "ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20 linux"
[09:22] <simpsonrb> can you configure tcp/ip settings manually without knetworkmanager or knetworkconf?
[09:23] <hendaus> titanix88: rm: cannot remove `linux': Permission denied
[09:23] <titanix88> hendaus: one mistake.do this"cd /usr/src/" "sudo rm linux" "sudo ln -s /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.20 linux"
[09:24] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok
[09:27] <titanix88> hendaus: "cd /usr/local/src/gnokii-0.6.16/patches/kernel_2.6/"
[09:27] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok
[09:28] <titanix88> hendaus:"sudo ./configure"
[09:28] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok
[09:29] <typedestereo> what's the correct syntax for chmod?
[09:29] <titanix88> hendaus: "sudo make"
[09:29] <hendaus> titanix88:  brb , lunch time
[09:29] <typedestereo> sudo chmod rwe (user) isn't valid?
[09:29] <gan|y|med> so any experience with running fglrx on a new kernel (2.6.21)???
[09:29] <gan|y|med> pls?
[09:29] <hendaus> i reback for you :)
[09:30] <titanix88> hendaus: to me?
[09:30] <hendaus> titanix88:  when i type sudo make --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22738/
[09:30] <hendaus> brb
[09:30] <titanix88> hendaus: "sudo make install"
[09:31] <LuCarD> hi
[09:31] <typedestereo> er
[09:31] <typedestereo> *sudo chmod --rwe (user) (file)
[09:31] <LuCarD> somebody helpme with installation of VGA?
[09:32] <sercik> Hi LuCarD what do you need?
[09:32] <gan|y|med> nobody has ever tried kernel 2.6.21 with ati drivers?? i cannot believe this
[09:33] <simpsonrb> Could somebody help me with network problems?
[09:33] <LuCarD> hey sercik
[09:33] <nightcall> hello I have a soundblaster live PCI card detected by the emu10k alsa module.  I can't get recording via microphone to work although playback works, I try arecord tmp.wav and speak and nothing is recorded.  In alsamixer the mic device is not muted, any ideas?
[09:34] <nightcall> simpsonrb what problem?
[09:34] <sercik> hey LuCarD!
[09:34] <gan|y|med> nightcall: did you try the 200cb boost setting
[09:34] <gan|y|med> ?
[09:34] <LuCarD> i cant installing my VGA
[09:34] <swimmerino88> hello!how can i correct this little problem http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22737/   ?
[09:34] <LuCarD> i cant installing my VGA
[09:35] <nightcall> gan|y|med well I did enable the mic boost but then I hear the mic in my ear constantly whether I'm in a sound app or not
[09:35] <sercik> Which is your VGA? od which problem do you have?
[09:35] <simpsonrb> thanks nightcall.  I was having problems with knetworkmanager and decided to uninstall it and reinstall.  however, in my haste i accidentally uninstalled knetworkconf too (in adept). Now i cannot reconnect to the net and reinstall the packages
[09:35] <LuCarD> ATI x800 GTO
[09:35] <chris_scumm> my ipod mounts perfectly now
[09:35] <chris_scumm> :D
[09:35] <simpsonrb> when i tried to get the knetworkconf.deb, it gave me errors when trying to install
[09:35] <LuCarD> acelaration graf and 3D
[09:35] <typedestereo> why is does this line have invalid syntax: sudo chmod --rwe (user0 (file)?
[09:35] <nightcall> simpsonrb sudo kate /etc/network/interfaces; edit that to get back online then reinstall
[09:36] <sercik> i ahve a nvidia so i can't help you much!
[09:36] <sanelson_> splendid - can play realplayer files with mplayer; how can I get this functionality in amorak / kaffeine?
[09:36] <sercik> but have you followed some guide?
[09:36] <LuCarD> hehehe
[09:36] <gan|y|med> nightcall: but can you record this way?
[09:36] <nightcall> no, I can only hear it in my headset
[09:36] <sercik> for ati i know there is fglrx
[09:36] <swimmerino88> j/ #ubuntu-es
[09:37] <simpsonrb> thanks nightcall
[09:37] <titanix88> hendaus: there?
[09:37] <gan|y|med> LuCarD: what do you need?
[09:37] <sercik> and i have red that there is a good support for linux
[09:37] <LuCarD> hmmm
[09:37] <ardchoille> typedestereo: You want the file to have read,write and execute privs for the owner? Or the group and others too?
[09:37] <chris_scumm> now can someone help me to install cool fonts?
[09:37] <LuCarD> i try
[09:37] <chris_scumm> :d
[09:38] <gan|y|med> chris_scumm: use kcontrol??
[09:39] <rc> merhaba
[09:39] <typedestereo> ardchoille: for a given user
[09:39] <nightcall> chris_scumm apt-cache search fonts | grep ttf; sudo apt-get install <package_name>
[09:39] <chris_scumm> kind of like the same as in win xp i guess
[09:39] <gan|y|med> pardon, you are kidding?
[09:39] <chris_scumm> i dl them and then install them
[09:39] <typedestereo> it's actually the /etc/hosts file
[09:39] <nightcall> then you are looking for the microsoft true type fonts, you can only install them if you are liscensed to
[09:39] <simpsonrb> nightcall...thanks, it worked like a charm!
[09:40] <chris_scumm> no im looking for free and  open fonts
[09:40] <rc> i'm speak turkish turkish channel ??
[09:40] <gan|y|med> yeah, how can i get times, the times new roman replacement?
[09:40] <gan|y|med> it used to be in ooo
[09:40] <ardchoille> typedestereo: The /etc/hosts file only needs 644:  sudo chmod 644 /etc/hosts
[09:40] <typedestereo> because I need to add a certain server to it, and I can't do that without changing permissions
[09:40] <typedestereo> ah
[09:40] <typedestereo> ok
[09:41] <trakinas> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[09:41] <gan|y|med> closed source + gpl kernel = bad combination
[09:41] <ardchoille> typedestereo: You can edit that file in a text editor using sudo: either: sudo vim /etc/hosts   or   kdesu kate /etc/hosts
[09:41] <typedestereo> thanks
[09:41] <gan|y|med> i am going to try 2.6.20-12 now
[09:42] <rc_> hello turkish channel help me i'm turkhis
[09:42] <trakinas> I left it downloading to come back here almost 12hours after to see a License window from Sun (which means: no other package wer installed) and to receive a msg that it couldnt finish the process cause it probably would broke other packages... :(
[09:42] <trakinas> i hate apt! >(
[09:43] <trakinas> heheheheh
[09:43] <titanix88> hendaus: there?
[09:44] <trakinas> "j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin" is causing the error...
[09:46] <marko_> is there now gutsy gibbon realase
[09:46] <ardchoille> Not yet
[09:46] <trakinas> hmmmm... it depends on j2re1.4
[09:47] <ardchoille> marko_: If they continue to follow the 6 onth release ycle, Gutsy shold be released in October.
[09:47] <illriginal> Does anyone know if Belkin's USB Wireless Adapter is compatible with Ubuntu Feisty?
[09:48] <marko_> yes but i heard that somebody is using gutsy now
[09:48] <marko_> some realy pre aplha
[09:48] <ardchoille> Yeah
[09:48] <illriginal> it is?
[09:48] <ardchoille> marko_: Probably testers
[09:49] <marko_> ok
[09:49] <illriginal> should it automatically recognize the usb wireless adapter? Or do I need to manually configure Ubuntu for it to recognize my usb wireless adapter?
[09:50] <Aresilek> hello
[09:51] <Aresilek> Does anyone know about Planeshift in here?
[09:51] <derrin> Hi!  Can anyone help me to get the mic working with kubuntu feisty on a thinkpad z61m?
[09:51] <illriginal> Does anyone know if Belkin's USB Wireless Adapter is compatible with Ubuntu Feisty?
[09:52] <adi_> check /var/log/messages and see how the device is recognized
[09:52] <ardchoille> !hardware
[09:52] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:52] <ardchoille> !wireless
[09:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:52] <Aresilek> !planeshift
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about planeshift - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <illriginal> thanks ardchoille
[09:52] <ardchoille> illriginal: You might check those two pages
[09:52] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[09:54] <[4K^Javax] > <mTw|forever> free blowjobs here
[09:55] <trakinas> I have to intall blackdown java to make the java plugin for firefox work. but, Ive installed the JDK yestarday. Wont Blackdown and the Sun JRE conflict?
[09:55] <simpsonrb> Could someone help me with a wireless problem (probably a common one)?
[09:55] <trakinas> simpsonrb: just ask.
[09:55] <deichgraf> moin
[09:55] <illriginal> ardchoille... great pages man!! thanks again!
[09:55] <illriginal> i gotta ruN!
[09:56] <jacobnix> hello
[09:56] <jacobnix> guys
[09:56] <jacobnix> a hava a problema
[09:56] <hendaus> titanix88:  back for u
[09:57] <trakinas> jacobnix: just ask
[09:57] <jacobnix> i have installed ubuntu gnome desktop FEISTY , but i finished of install Kubuntu from synaptic, but when i choose de KDE session from GDM
[09:57] <titanix88> hendaus: the way we tried was not recommended in gnokii site. but there is another way
[09:58] <jacobnix> when  KDE start
[09:58] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok
[09:58] <jacobnix> doesnt appear
[09:58] <titanix88> hendaus: "sudo aptitude install libusb-dev libusb++-dev"
[09:58] <jacobnix> KDE PANEL
[09:58] <jacobnix> MENU
[09:58] <jacobnix> nothing
[09:58] <hendaus> titanix88:  i just type sudo make, but sudo make install not
[09:59] <trakinas> hmmmm.... Blackdown java DOES conflicts with Sun. Well... I will do what i have to (college work using bluej) and them I remove Sun's and install Blackdown.
[09:59] <simpsonrb> I am using a linksys wmp54g 4.1, which according to Ubuntu works in feisty.  However knetworkmanager doesn't list any wireless networks from the systray, and when i use the manual config it does not connect
[09:59] <titanix88> hendaus: u get it again configure, make, make install
[09:59] <jacobnix> why KDE MENU , AND KDE PANEL AND MORE KDE STUFF DOESNT APPEAR WHEN I START KDE
[10:00] <ardchoille> !caps
[10:00] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:00] <hendaus> titanix88:  done
[10:00] <jacobnix> ubotu: sorry
[10:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:00] <ardchoille> jacobnix: ubotu is a bot
[10:00] <ardchoille> !bot
[10:00] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:00] <jacobnix> ahhhh sorry
[10:00] <hendaus> titanix88:  ok i type sudo make and i got the same error
[10:01] <jacobnix> but i have this problem , i dont know why kde doesnt load
[10:02] <jacobnix> only appear a background
[10:02] <jacobnix> kde background
[10:02] <jacobnix> and i make right click and appear contextual menu
[10:02] <jacobnix> but doesnt appear kde bar, kde menu , kde panel, nothing
[10:02] <titanix88> hendaus: not in patch directory."cd /usr/local/src/gnokii.../" "sudo ./configure " "sudo make" "sudo make install"
[10:02] <jacobnix> someone knows whye
[10:03] <jacobnix> ?
[10:03] <ardchoille> jacobnix: When you log into kde and press alt+F1, do you get a run dialog?
[10:03] <ardchoille> jacobnix: Sorry, alt+f2
[10:04] <intelikey> svgatextmode issue   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/36913
[10:04] <hendaus> titanix88:  bash: cd: /usr/local/src/gnokii.../: No such file or directory
[10:04] <jacobnix> ardchiolle : one moment please
[10:05] <titanix88> hendaus: not in patch directory."cd /usr/local/src/gnokii-0.6.16/" "sudo ./configure " "sudo make" "sudo make install"
[10:06] <alesan> re
[10:06] <alesan> how do I setup my kubuntu to allow X connections from remote hosts?
[10:06] <alesan> I think the server itself is started with somehting like to disable tcp connections
[10:07] <hendaus> titanix88:  done
[10:11] <jacobnix> im here
[10:11] <jacobnix> alf-2 works
[10:11] <jacobnix> alt-F2 works
[10:11] <sercik> someone here uses xmame??
[10:12] <jacobnix> yes
[10:12] <ardchoille> jacobnix: Ok, you can type in 'konsole' (without quotes) to get a terminal, then type 'dcop kicker default restart' (without quotes) to restart the panel and see if there is any error output
[10:12] <jacobnix> i contributed with the mame project and i add metal slug 4 in mame
[10:12] <brandie> how do i edit my xorg.conf file in kubuntu
[10:12] <sercik> i have a lot of games that works good on mame32 windows but i'm tryimg to start some in linux with xmame and they don't start
[10:12] <ardchoille> jacobnix: Type the dcop stuff in the terminal
[10:13] <jacobnix> ardchoille : ok
[10:13] <sercik> brandie: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:13] <brandie> tanks
[10:13] <brandie> thanks
[10:13] <trakinas> sercik: do you have the BIOS?
[10:13] <sercik> but do a backup copy first
[10:13] <trakinas> for those games you want to play...
[10:13] <sercik> i have it on the same folder that rom
[10:14] <titanix88> hendaus:grab the text http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22745/ & insert it in a new file named .gnokiirc & place it in ur home folder.plug the phone & start xgnokii
[10:14] <jacobnix> ardchoille
[10:14] <ardchoille> Yes?
[10:15] <jacobnix> when typed dcop kicker default restart         ,,,, says call failed
[10:16] <ardchoille> jacobnix: In the terminal, type: dcop --list-sessions
[10:17] <intelikey> ok.  i think i'm back now.
[10:17] <titanix88> hendaus: did u do that?
[10:17] <hendaus> titanix88:  first i open it , copy and paste where? in a .txt
[10:17] <jacobnix> ardchoille : says this message ERROR: The --list-sessions option can only be used with the --user or
[10:17] <jacobnix> --all-users options!
[10:17] <nahemoth__> How can I install the file "amsn-0.97RC1-1.tcl84.x86.package"
[10:18] <intelikey> .package ???
[10:18] <nahemoth__> yea
[10:18] <ardchoille> jacobnix: Ok, it seems the help file is in error.
[10:18] <nahemoth__> in their site, they say distrubition independent installer
[10:18] <nahemoth__> so
[10:18] <intelikey> i've never seen a   .package   file
[10:18] <jacobnix> arcoille: dcop --list-sessions --user israel
[10:18] <nahemoth__> ok
[10:18] <jacobnix> works
[10:18] <titanix88> hendaus: open kate.paste it there & save as ".gnokiirc" in ur home.
[10:19] <jacobnix> archoille: Active sessions for user /home/israel :
[10:19] <jacobnix>   .DCOPserver_feisty__0
[10:19] <hendaus> ok
[10:19] <intelikey> nahemoth__ try   sh amsn-0.97RC1-1.tcl84.x86.package
[10:19] <adi_> guys i have kinda of a stupid question i have a folder with icons and i dont remember where i put in in ubuntu 7.04
[10:19] <jacobnix> ardchoille : i am israel user
[10:19] <intelikey> or sudo ^
[10:19] <ardchoille> jacobnix: Ok, I was thinking it was a dcop error, but it isn't.
[10:20] <Aresilek> how do i telnet to an unusall port?
[10:20] <hendaus> titanix88:  done
[10:20] <intelikey> adi_ it's worse than you think.   that's not even a question.
[10:21] <jacobnix> arcchoille how uninstall one deb package in kubunutu
[10:21] <adi_> i know:)
[10:21] <hendaus> titanix88:  open xgnokii from terminal?
[10:21] <adi_> oh got it thx anyways:)
[10:21] <ardchoille> jacobnix: sudo apt-get remove package_name
[10:21] <intelikey> adi_  find / -iname *somefilename*
[10:21] <titanix88> hendaus: first try"gnokii --identify"
[10:21] <intelikey> ffr
[10:22] <adi_> i got it thx
[10:23] <jacobnix> ardchoille: but i rename the deb package and i installed with dpkg -i package.deb
[10:23] <intelikey> so anyone have a clue-by-four as to why i can't get 80x25 in svgatextmode ?
[10:24] <titanix88> hendaus: does it says anything?
[10:24] <hendaus> titanix88: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22749/
[10:24] <jacobnix> how uninstall the deb package....
[10:24] <kulaga> hey, i have a question can someone help with eggdrop and ubuntu?
[10:25] <kulaga> it seems the eggdrop can't find the tcl scripts
[10:25] <intelikey> jacobnix apt-get remove name          or what ever package manager frontend you like.
[10:25] <Sleepy_Coder> brb. :p
[10:25] <ardchoille> jacobnix: I believe it's sudo dpkg -r package.deb
[10:26] <intelikey> ardchoille you should use a frontend that will check dependancies.
[10:26] <intelikey> like apt aptitude or dselect
[10:26] <ardchoille> intelikey: ?
[10:27] <ardchoille> !! jacobnix!! ardchoille: but i rename the deb package and i installed with dpkg -i package.deb
[10:27] <ardchoille> intelikey: Sorry, he asked how to remove a .deb that he renamed and installed locally, so I answered with that.
[10:28] <jacobnix> guys dont fight
[10:29] <jacobnix> ardchoille th package that i installed is kickeroff new kde menu
[10:29] <ReMiiRuru> What package do I have to install to have openGL support without 3D acceleration?
[10:29] <intelikey> ardchoille yes i see all that.  but anything installed with dpkg can and in most all cases should be removed using a frontend  so that you don't break deps and trubble the package database
[10:29] <jacobnix> i download from kde-apss.org
[10:29] <jrick> i need some help install updates in my kubuntu instalation.  Whenever I try to update with Adept, it gives me an error.  I tried to update with the terminal, but it still doesn't work.
[10:29] <jrick> Here's the output:
[10:29] <jrick> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22751/
[10:29] <ardchoille> jacobnix: That could be the reason why your kicker isn't starting as it should.
[10:29] <jrick> uh, nvm.  i have to go now
[10:29] <jacobnix> ardchoille :...yes is probably that yes
[10:29] <jrick> i'll ask later
[10:30] <jacobnix> the i ask how to uninistall this package
[10:30] <alesan> how do I add a repository from the command line?
[10:30] <ardchoille> intelikey: I'll remember that.
[10:30] <intelikey> alesan edit the file.   /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:31] <intelikey> alesan nano is the default editor so    sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:31] <sercik> oh incredible i have solved problems with mame
[10:31] <alesan> intelikey, isn't there a non-interactive way?
[10:31] <hendaus> titanix88: did u read the pastebin?
[10:32] <intelikey> alesan sure.
[10:32] <alesan> intelikey, I'd rather use vim
[10:32] <titanix88> hendaus: try this as .gnokiirc & do that again http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22752/
[10:32] <ReMiiRuru> What package do I install for openGL/how do I get openGL support?
[10:32] <alesan> but as I'm explaining how to do via email I feel safer if theer is a simpler list of commands :)
[10:32] <sercik> i don't know why but my roms all all written like QWEFRYY and sdlmame want it qwefryy it is possible to rename it automatically?
[10:32] <jacobnix> when i type kicker in kubuntu terminal
[10:32] <intelikey> alesan echo "string for your repo" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:32] <jacobnix> kicker
[10:32] <jacobnix> says this message
[10:33] <sercik> Hi Admiral_Chicago!!
[10:33] <jacobnix> error while loading shared libraries: liblazy.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:33] <intelikey> alesan is that "non-interactive" enough ?
[10:33] <sercik> Hi fdoving!
[10:33] <alesan> intelikey, oh ok I thought it was a dpkg or similar command
[10:33] <alesan> why do you use tee instead of >> ?
[10:33] <ardchoille> intelikey: That's a little *too* non-interactive for me, lol
[10:34] <titanix88> hendaus:
[10:34] <intelikey> alesan because the terminal/console owned by a user can't redirrect to a root owned file
[10:34] <jacobnix> how uninstall the package QT Kickoff 3.5.7
[10:34] <jacobnix> witout affect other dependencies
[10:34] <intelikey> alesan test this.     sudo echo boot > /test
[10:35] <sercik> it is possible to automatically rename files that are written in capital letters?
[10:35] <simpsonrb> could someone help with a video problem?  I am trying to run my monitor @ 1920x1080 on my radeon9600, but the display settings only go as high as 1280x1024.  I have edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf to add the resolution to the list, but didn't work.  I have added other resolutions (1920x1200 and 2560x1024), however only 1920x1200 was available, along with several other resolutions that i did not add to the list...any clue?
[10:35] <intelikey> sercik script it.
[10:36] <sercik> intelikey: i'm not good can you help me??
[10:36] <Meglo> I LOST THE GAME
[10:36] <ardchoille> sercik: Are you sure you want to do that being that Linux is case-sensitive? Ex. /etc/x11 doesn't exist, but /etc/X11 does
[10:37] <sercik> ardchoille: the problem is this linux is case sensitive
[10:37] <intelikey> sercik something like:   find ./ -iname *[A-Z] * -exec echo '{}' \; | while read Q ;do mv "$Q" "`echo "$Q" | tr "[A-Z] " "[a-z] "`" ;done
[10:37] <sercik> and i have more than 3000 roms all written in capital letters
[10:37] <intelikey> sercik note that's recursive
[10:38] <fdoving> sercik: to lowercase you mean? perls provides the rename command. 'rename 'y/A-Z/a-z/' *.rom
[10:38] <fdoving> '
[10:38] <sercik> fdoving: you are my save
[10:38] <sercik> i need to transform capital to lowercase
[10:38] <Dhraakellian> woah, wait, what?
[10:38] <Dhraakellian> kubuntu doesn't ship with an ssh server installed?
[10:39] <intelikey> no
[10:39] <fdoving> Dhraakellian: no, i belive it's on the cd, but not installed.
[10:39] <cWolfe> apt-get install <whatever you want buddy>
[10:39] <Dhraakellian> yeah, I know
[10:39] <Dhraakellian> I was just surprised
[10:39] <cWolfe> :)
[10:39] <nahemoth> why do I get an error message such like this  http://rafb.net/p/eZW09X16.html
[10:40] <MaTiAz> Hmm, Kubuntu doesn't seem so bad after all
[10:40] <fdoving> nahemoth: you
[10:40] <hakaisou> Welcome to the light MaTiAz
[10:40] <fdoving> nahemoth: sorry, you're missing the build-essential package.
[10:40] <hendaus> titanix88:  did u read  the pastebin the new one?
[10:40] <nahemoth> what 's the name of this package, can I install it?
[10:40] <MaTiAz> I've usually had mostly negative experiences with Linux on other distros but Kubuntu is working fine for me :)
[10:40] <MaTiAz> hakaisou: Thanks :)
[10:41] <fdoving> nahemoth: build-essential is the name, yes, you can install it.
[10:41] <nahemoth> ok thanks
[10:42] <intelikey> fdoving ever play with svgatextmode any ?
[10:42] <hakaisou> I LOVE figuring out terminal commands on the first try
[10:43] <alesan> how can I see the loads of the cores of my dualcore CPU?
[10:43] <alesan> is "top" giving me that info?
[10:43] <intelikey> alesan in kde  alt+esc   isn't it ?
[10:43] <fdoving> intelikey: probably, a few years ago, around the same time i thought framebuffers at 1600x1200 was cool. now i just find it slow and useless.
[10:43] <brandie> how do i manually change my color depth i'm getting a bunch of crazy artifacts
[10:44] <fdoving> alesan: i highly recommend 'htop' (need to be installed).
[10:44] <alesan> intelikey, mh? what alt+esc should do?
[10:44] <intelikey> fdoving hehhe.  ok.  well i found an oddity with my hardware.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/36914
[10:44] <Dhraakellian> okay, sshd installed
[10:44] <Dhraakellian> now, next problem
[10:45] <Dhraakellian> I can't seem to get games and such to work.
[10:45] <intelikey> it seems that i can't use 80x25 after running stm    i can boot there but not stm to there
[10:45] <Dhraakellian> when I try to run glxgears, it tells me:
[10:45] <Dhraakellian> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:45] <Dhraakellian> http://rafb.net/p/ef2XLQ74.html <--my xorg.conf
[10:45] <MaTiAz> hakaisou: Messing around with terminal is kinda fun :)
[10:46] <hakaisou> !libjack.so
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libjack.so - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <Dhraakellian> geforce2 MX 400, nvidia-legacy drivers, 19" IBM 6557 P92 monitor
[10:46] <hakaisou> hmmm
[10:46] <hakaisou> does anyone recognize libjack.so offhand?
[10:46] <intelikey> !find libjack
[10:46] <ubotu> Found: libjack0.100.0-0, libjack0.100.0-dev, libjackasyn-dev, libjackasyn0
[10:46] <hakaisou> aha!  thanks
[10:46] <titanix88_> hedaus: did it work? paste it
[10:46] <hakaisou> !libjackasyn0
[10:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libjackasyn0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:46] <titanix88_> hendaus: did it work? paste it
[10:47] <hendaus> titanix88:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22756/
[10:48] <titanix88_> hendaus: try "xgnokii"
[10:48] <hendaus> titanix88_:  how can i open gnokii
[10:48] <theshadow> can anyone tell me what the # m h dom mon dow user  command
[10:48] <hendaus> titanix88_:  how can i open xgnokii
[10:48] <theshadow> means in the crontab file?
[10:49] <catchat> Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log show the GLX module being loaded?
[10:49] <titanix88_> hendaus: "xgnokii"
[10:49] <intelikey> theshadow man crontab can
[10:49] <ardchoille> theshadow: http://imacgregor.com/pmwiki.php?n=Linux.CrontabTutorial
[10:49] <brandie> how do i manually change my color depth
[10:49] <theshadow> intelikey: no, no it didn't
[10:49] <theshadow> otherwise I wouldn't have aksed
[10:49] <theshadow> asked
[10:50] <nahemoth> what's the problem here http://rafb.net/p/NuU8Pq40.html
[10:50] <theshadow> ardchoille: ty
[10:50] <Dhraakellian> brandie: in xorg.conf, I think it's Section "Screen", Subsection "Display"
[10:50] <intelikey> theshadow i think so.   man 5 crontab
[10:50] <Dhraakellian> and the depth line under that
[10:51] <intelikey> theshadow  or  man -a crontab
[10:51] <hendaus> titanix88_:  it opens and close
[10:51] <brandie> when i did the line to edit my xorg,conf it comes up blank
[10:51] <brandie> like i'm making a new file
[10:51] <Dhraakellian> ah
[10:51] <hakaisou> hey cool
[10:51] <Dhraakellian> /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[10:51] <hakaisou> that libjack lets wine make a virtual desktop window
[10:51] <hendaus> titanix88_:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22758/
[10:52] <MaTiAz> hakaisou: Whoa, cool, how?
[10:52] <kulaga> anyone good with eggdrop?
[10:52] <ardchoille> brandie: Did you try to edit /etc/x11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?  The "X" is uppercase.
[10:52] <kulaga> an TCL?
[10:52] <kulaga> ..
[10:52] <kulaga> and
[10:52] <brandie> oh i bet that is it which one do i do
[10:52] <intelikey> theshadow don't forget there are often more than one page.    man man
[10:53] <ardchoille> brandie: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:53] <Dhraakellian> http://rafb.net/p/ef2XLQ74.html <--my xorg.conf.  When I run glxgears, I get the following:  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:53] <brandie> let me try
[10:53] <Dhraakellian> anyone see why this would be?
[10:53] <Dhraakellian> geforce2 MX 400, nvidia-legacy drivers, 19" IBM 6557 P92 monitor
[10:53] <hakaisou> you got wine installed?
[10:54] <intelikey> in the fridge
[10:54] <hakaisou> MaTiAz
[10:54] <catchat> Dhraakellian: Does /var/log/Xorg.0.log show GLX being loaded?
[10:54] <brandie> u rock but a new problem there are so many artifacts i can't tell how to save a exit
[10:54] <MaTiAz> hakaisou: Yeah
[10:54] <ardchoille> intelikey: hahaha
[10:54] <hakaisou> intelikey:  haha
[10:54] <hakaisou> ok then
[10:54] <fdoving> Dhraakellian: try Load instead of load, capital L on line 37 and 38.
[10:54] <Dhraakellian> $ grep glx /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:54] <Dhraakellian> (II) LoadModule: "glx"
[10:54] <Dhraakellian> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so
[10:54] <Dhraakellian> (II) Module glx: vendor="NVIDIA Corporation"
[10:55] <Dhraakellian> I have not, to my knowledge, actually hand-edited this file at all
[10:55] <hakaisou> just apt-get install libjackasyn-dev, install all the stuff it suggests, then run winecfg and turn on virtual desktop
[10:55] <ardchoille> intelikey: Are you an op for this channel?
[10:55] <MaTiAz> hakaisou: All right :)
[10:55] <fdoving> Dhraakellian: ok, nevermind then, it looks like it loaded.
[10:55] <intelikey> ardchoille no
[10:55] <ardchoille> intelikey: You should be, you have a good attitude.
[10:55] <Dhraakellian> fdoving: nevertheless, it doesn't work
[10:55] <intelikey> ardchoille was offered.   i don't want it.   thanks just the same.
[10:57] <brandie> in gnu nano how do u save and exit
[10:57] <fdoving> brandie: ctrl+x
[10:57] <brandie> thanks
[10:57] <Dhraakellian> :wq!
[10:57] <pmcdonnell> Has anyone else had trouble with the flash player plugin in feisty?  Often it crashes when trying to navigate away from a page which had a flash object on it.  This happens in both firefox and konq.  Is this a known problem?
[10:58] <intelikey> besides i got banned for about a month from #ubuntu for telling one of the big wheels that he was wrong (doesn't matter that he was, just that i said so...)
[10:58] <MaTiAz> Hmm
[10:58] <Dhraakellian> hmm
[10:58] <MaTiAz> Is there any way to minimize apps running in wine to tray?
[10:59] <kulaga> dammmmmmmmmmmn
[10:59] <MaTiAz> Currently uTorrent is showing up in tray AND taskbar
[10:59] <MaTiAz> Kinda annoying :|
[10:59] <kulaga> how do i set up TCL scripts on ubuntu?
[10:59] <catchat> Dhrakellian: Open a terminal session and type xdpyinfo. Does GLX show there?
[11:00] <Dhraakellian> $ xdpyinfo | grep glx
[11:00] <Dhraakellian> $
[11:00] <Dhraakellian> NV-GLX
[11:00] <brandie> yes!!! that fixed thanks to everyone that helped me
[11:00] <intelikey> Dhraakellian like move /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and run dpkg-recongifure xserver-xorg ?
[11:00] <brandie> peace out!
[11:00] <Dhraakellian> intelikey: that sounds like an idea
[11:00] <ardchoille> intelikey: Sounds like someone's feelings got hurt, it was a bad reason to ban.
[11:01] <ubuntu_> Hello, i'm new with Linux, Do you know a French channel please ?
[11:01] <steveire_> !fr
[11:01] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:01] <ardchoille> !fr
[11:01] <ubuntu_> ok thx
[11:01] <intelikey> ardchoille it's ok,  i got over it    hehhe
[11:01] <ubuntu_> Salut
[11:01] <Dhraakellian> intelikey: safe to do while X is running, or should I drop down to terminal first?
[11:01] <intelikey> oh you meant him....    :)
[11:02] <intelikey> Dhraakellian yes safe it is.
[11:02] <intelikey> Dhraakellian xorg does not write there and only reads on startup
[11:02] <steveire_> Hey. Can someone point me to the help page to install AMPhp. I remember having to configure mysql, but don't remember what I did.
[11:03] <intelikey> !lamp | steveire_
[11:03] <ubotu> steveire_: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[11:03] <intelikey> that ?
[11:05] <intelikey> ardchoille and of all things  it was as simple as     sudo -i == sudo su -      he said no.  i said yes.   same resulting shell.   so he banned me.
[11:05] <steveire> intelikey: Probably. I think the page needs to be updates
[11:05] <intelikey> steveire i don't doubt that.
[11:06] <hendaus> titanix88_:  are u there?
[11:06] <manwithaface> intelikey: never figured out how to rebuild initramfs, so i just re-installed
[11:07] <intelikey> manwithaface oh my!       sorry to hear that.    but did that fix it ?
[11:07] <steveire> I only want the amp setup on my laptop to try out some cmses etc. Do you know of a better guide?
[11:07] <_titanix88_> hendaus: try this last paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22763/ as .gnokiirc
[11:07] <fdoving> steveire: to install lamp?
[11:07] <ardchoille> intelikey: lol
[11:07] <manwithaface> intelikey: yeah, i have my /home/ on a separate partition, so minimal data loss
[11:07] <intelikey> steveire ! i   i'm netwqork illiterate
[11:08] <steveire> intelikey: Hmmm, me tooo
[11:08] <intelikey> manwithaface well there was a time in the past when i used to boast that i reloaded twice a week whether i needed to or not.  so maybe it's not so bad.....
[11:08] <_titanix88_> hendaus:
[11:08] <manwithaface> lol
[11:09] <hendaus> _titanix88_:  :(
[11:09] <hendaus> _titanix88_:  it opens and then quit
[11:09] <_titanix88_> hendaus: what does it say?
[11:10] <intelikey> i do have a box i use that i loaded hoary on and it's still got it tho..... that's what 2 years now ?
[11:10] <_titanix88_> hendaus: last time paste it :(
[11:11] <hendaus> _titanix88_:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22764/
[11:11] <lordgrunt_> hi again
[11:12] <lordgrunt_> intelikey, i restored root pasword, it works, but sudo is broken.
[11:12] <intelikey> so did you get it fixed ?
[11:12] <intelikey> ok
[11:12] <lordgrunt_> as you said, from chrooting
[11:12] <_titanix88_> hendaus: i give up. move to #gnokii
[11:13] <hendaus> ok
[11:13] <intelikey> lets see the sudoers file     cat /etc/sudoers ;groups     and pastebin the output
[11:13] <lordgrunt_> i suppose i need to wait for update of sudo or something
[11:13] <intelikey> lordgrunt_ ^
[11:14] <lordgrunt_> http://pastebin.ca/514674
[11:14] <Nivuahc> would someone be so kind as to tell me the best method for upgrade to Feisty from Edgy?
[11:15] <intelikey> ok but where is the last line     groups
[11:15] <fdoving> !upgrade | nivuahc
[11:15] <ubotu> nivuahc: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[11:15] <_StefanS_> Nivuahc: check http://kubuntu.org/announcements/7.04-release.php
[11:15] <intelikey> lordgrunt_ better yet, lets see     cat /etc/group
[11:16] <lordgrunt_> groups contained only root
[11:16] <intelikey> ok that's the problem
[11:16] <Nivuahc> danke
[11:16] <intelikey> you have to add your self to the 'admin' group
[11:17] <secret> how do we open .bin files?
[11:17] <lordgrunt_> usermod -G admin ziemo?
[11:17] <intelikey> yeah
[11:18] <lupul> does anybody know what do i have to install in order to show my cpu temperature in superkaramba?
[11:18] <secret> How do I install RealPlayerGold10.bin?
[11:18] <secret> Can someone help?^
[11:18] <lordgrunt_> weird but works
[11:18] <lordgrunt_> sudo back on tracks :)
[11:19] <lordgrunt_> most probably my last modification messed something in groups
[11:19] <intelikey> secret try sudo sh RealPlayerGold10.bin
[11:20] <secret> sh: Can't open RealPlayerGold10.bin
[11:20] <secret> How do I get real player on my system people?
[11:20] <intelikey> lordgrunt_ not wierd.   look again at your sudoers file.   root (user) is allowed to do all    and  %admin (group) is allowed to do all with a password
[11:20] <secret> I want to watch streaming real videos...
[11:20] <Dhraakellian> well...
[11:20] <secret> Is helix player the real player?
[11:20] <Dhraakellian> that didn't work
[11:21] <lordgrunt_> weird i mean that my last change waas supposed to add me to group ftpuser. looks like i removed all other groups
[11:21] <Dhraakellian> secret: yes, on linux, realplayer = helix plus more codecs
[11:21] <Dhraakellian> ow... not only does glx still not work, I'm now at 60Hz
[11:21] <secret> but I can't watch streaming .rm files with helix friend? whats goin on?
[11:21] <intelikey> lordgrunt_ ah yes that.   i know one shouldn't but i normally edit /etc/group dirrectly.
[11:21] <Dhraakellian> secret: codecs
[11:22] <secret> soooooo ok, how would I get these codecs?
[11:22] <Dhraakellian> maybe helix doesn't come with the Real codecs by default (although I would expect it to)
[11:22] <Dhraakellian> or maybe kubuntu just doesn't install them by default
[11:22] <Dhraakellian> !restricted codecs
[11:22] <lordgrunt_> by the way, command to append group to list of groups for main user was in some installation guide for proftpd
[11:23] <intelikey> Dhraakellian you have nvidia-glx enable     or what ever the command is ?
[11:23] <Dhraakellian> secret: look for "restricted codecs" or "restricted formats" on the wiki
[11:23] <intelikey> have ran %
[11:23] <Dhraakellian> intelikey: I had before, iirc
[11:23] <intelikey> hmmmm
[11:23] <Dhraakellian> intelikey: or the kcontrol equivalent by switching to the nvidia driver instead of nv
[11:23] <secret> ok listen, I have downloaded realplayergold10.bin from the real website, how do I install this player?
[11:23] <Eli2> alguien en espanish?
[11:24] <lordgrunt_> intelikey, thats why i didnt have the sound. i wasnt in group ;)
[11:24] <intelikey> Dhraakellian i'm not the one to try to help there.  i can't install nvidia drivers just to learn how it all works    my card seems to not be supported...
[11:24] <secret> everytime I go to one of those wiki sites, I get confused and it makes me want to reinstall windows.
[11:24] <intelikey> lordgrunt_ yep.
[11:25] <CatChat> Have you tried downloading the latest driver from Nvidia?
[11:25] <Eli2> i need help
[11:25] <Eli2> please
[11:25] <secret> we all do friend
[11:25] <Dhraakellian> okay, ouch... restoring the old xorg.conf before this gives me a headache
[11:25] <BluesKaj> secret , select prperties on ralplayer.bin ,hightlihgt the name , selectall, copy, paste in the terminal after typing ./
[11:25] <secret> okz
[11:25] <lordgrunt_> hmm. usermod -G isnt the command then. whats the one to append group, not to just set this one
[11:25] <Eli2> lol
[11:25] <intelikey> lordgrunt_ a list of groups you probably wan in is    admin audio vidio disk media ..... seems like one more....
[11:25] <Eli2> my resolution is 1024 and my computer has a widescreen monitor
[11:26] <secret> bash: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: No such file or directory?
[11:27] <secret> Eli2:
[11:27] <secret> goto system tools
[11:27] <Dhraakellian> question: how the frell can people stand 60Hz?
[11:27] <secret> then monitor
[11:28] <erich_> halo
[11:28] <intelikey> lordgrunt_ sudo usermod -g `whoami` -G comma,seperated,list `whoami`
[11:28] <secret> click administrator mode
[11:28] <secret> then change it
[11:28] <lordgrunt_> intelikey, thanks for all your help. you're the boss :D cya
[11:29] <erich_> by by
[11:29] <intelikey> Dhraakellian hmmm they can't ?
[11:30] <Dhraakellian> just for that long there, I was getting a headache
[11:31] <intelikey> Dhraakellian i use consoles 99% of the time.  but not at 60Hz  85Hz console is pretty paletable
[11:31] <Dhraakellian> intelikey: I could probably stand 60Hz for a mostly light-on-dark console
[11:31] <Dhraakellian> longer than I could for X, at least
[11:31] <intelikey> yeah.
[11:35] <ardchoille> When I hilight a url in konsole and right click, is there a way to edit that context menu?
[11:36] <ardchoille> Would be nice to have a "Open in web browser" entry in that menu.
[11:38] <xGrantx> ugh
[11:38] <xGrantx> every time a new popup window appears, the window manager keeps switching back to KDE
[11:39] <xGrantx> from Beryl
[11:39] <intelikey> ardchoille prolly.  but if you highlight then look at klipper what can you do there ?
[11:39] <xGrantx> is there a way to stop it from switching?
[11:39] <intelikey> you allow popup windows !    uuuh !
[11:39] <ardchoille> intelikey: Yeah, been using klipper actions, but was wondering if there was another way
[11:40] <intelikey> ardchoille like i said "prolly"  but not being a kde user i wouldn't know how.
[11:40] <xGrantx> heh
[11:41] <xGrantx> I wish I could just disable the KDE window manager completely
[11:42] <luca> hi everyone
[11:42] <marko> i have a problem with apt
[11:42] <marko> http://pastie.caboo.se/65118
[11:42] <luca> can someone answer to a simple, dirty question? Will Konqueror ever support xpi extension install?
[11:43] <intelikey> xGrantx you probably can.    this is not at all the recommended way.  but one could mv the kwin executable and symlink to beryl's executable      might have to undo it from a console if it don't work for you.
[11:43] <luca> because, it is the only and main reason for which I cannot avoid using the Fox instead of the Konqueror :)
[11:43] <nuu> luca: better ask in #kde-devel
[11:43] <marko> luca which plugins tou need
[11:45] <luca> marko: a ton and an ounce, some of which are not hosted on the mozilla site :) for example a proxy plugin from my university, a search bar still from my university...or the biobar..the unplug and clipmarks plugins...
[11:45] <luca> nuu thanks :I
[11:45] <luca> :)
[11:45] <Dinofly> luca: i don't think this is possible
[11:46] <marko> it's easy to make seach bar in konqueror
[11:46] <Dinofly> konqueror is too different from mozilla to support its extensions
[11:46] <marko> go choose search engine and choose new
[11:46] <xGrantx> intelikey: would I have to name the beryl exe the same as the kwin exe?
[11:47] <intelikey> xGrantx might have to symlink them. yes.      sudo ln -s /path/to/beryl /usr/bin/kwin
[11:47] <marko> why apt-get gives me an error with the oficial repos
[11:48] <busfahrer> I noticed that Kubuntu's default font (in the menu etc) looks different from what I see when I install KDE on other distros. How is this achieved? (I'm not sure whether it's the font size, the font itself, or something else)
[11:48] <intelikey> xGrantx and if it doesn't work for you    rm /usr/bin/kwin    and  move the real kwin back to /usr/bin/
[11:48] <marko> busfahrer they changed the default settings
[11:49] <luca> Dinofly ok thanks
[11:49] <busfahrer> marko: Yes, but I would like to know which settings exactly, so I can try to reproduce that on other distros.
[11:50] <marko> go to kcontrol look & feel fonts
[11:50] <pjotter> hi everybody
[11:51] <intelikey> busfahrer the theeme ?
[11:52] <pjotter> I have a question regarding firefox and medaplayers
[11:53] <dr_willis> hmm
[11:53] <pjotter> How can I make mozilla play videostream that on a pc, normally getsplayed by MS windows mediaplayer plugin?
[11:53] <intelikey> whats up doc
[11:53] <pjotter> :)
[11:54] <pjotter> Is there a substitute mediaplayer that can do that?
[11:54] <imitation> pjotter: use vlc
[11:54] <dr_willis> i perfer videos to not play in the browser. :)
[11:54] <pjotter> I installed vlc
[11:54] <intelikey> !mplayer
[11:54] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. It resides in the mutiverse repository and can easily be installed via applications -> add/remove. For codecs try !codecs
[11:54] <dr_willis> vlc has streaming features. and can play the streams..
[11:54] <pjotter> some webpages have inline media streams, like on newssites etc..
[11:55] <pjotter> That's trange..I installed vlc, but somehow firefox doesn't know that vlc is installed... should I tell vlc to make itself known to firefox or something?
[11:56] <intelikey> yes and some web sights use flash,    but not if they want me to view them they don't...
[11:57] <pjotter> do you know,by any chance, what I should do to make vlc work in firefox?
[11:57] <pjotter> I'm looking at the preferences of vlc.. but no such thing as " firefox plugin"  or something
[11:58] <intelikey> mozilla-plugin-vlc - multimedia plugin for Mozilla based on VLC
[11:59] <pjotter> alright... aha...I should download and installit seperately then?
[11:59] <intelikey> have no idea.  i'm not a ff fan either.
[12:00] <pjotter> what don't you like about ff?
[12:00] <intelikey> mostly everything.
[12:00] <pjotter> ok
[12:00] <pjotter> what browser do you prefer?
[12:00] <intelikey> but specifically it's bloated like a hippo
[12:01] <pjotter> just curious... I haven't decided yet, which browser to use on kubuntu
[12:01] <intelikey> elinks is what i use all time.
[12:01] <fdoving> pjotter: konqueror is nice.
[12:01] <intelikey> links2 -g   is ok.     dillo isn't bad.
[12:01] <pjotter> yes,i saw konqueror...it's kind of like ff,isn't it?
[12:02] <fdoving> once you get used to the webshortcuts and kios konqueror is the coolness.
[12:03] <intelikey> have to admit i like konq loads better than ff        even if that does force me to agree in part with fdoving   :)
[12:04] <fdoving> hah, i finally forced intelikey to almost agree with me!
[12:04] <intelikey> concuring in part, and desenting in part.
[12:04] <intelikey> :)
[12:05] <intelikey> this may come in handy later on.....
[12:05] <intelikey> :)
[12:06] <intelikey> ok you got me.    actually did that three letter reaction to that...
[12:08] <hendaus> ardchoille:  bad day for me :(
[12:09] <BluesKaj> so you guys use konqueror with media files etc .. did you embed a mediaplayer or is it installed by default ?
[12:09] <hendaus> ardchoille:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22773/ <-- check this
[12:10] <dr_willis> you normally install one of those media-plugin pakcages i thought
[12:10] <BluesKaj> intelikey , see my question about konq?
[12:11] <intelikey> BluesKaj ah  yeah.
[12:11] <BluesKaj> hehe
[12:12] <BluesKaj> ok , justried it ...seems it use the xine engine
[12:12] <intelikey> i don't   web media    and dialup don't belong in the same sentance
[12:12] <BluesKaj> uses
[12:13] <intelikey> and yes   libxine-extracodecs   or what ever the name is   will complete the package for you.
[12:14] <intelikey> but for local media files i normally open them in a console     sox for sound   and vlc for vidio
[12:14] <BluesKaj> yeah I have those , but I have Kaffeine setup as the default media palyer and it seems fine
[12:15] <intelikey> yeah.     as i have often pointed out.  it's not about a "best" app   it's about personal choices and freedom.
[12:15] <BluesKaj> yup, understood
[12:16] <ardchoille> hendaus: What is gnokii?
[12:16] <BluesKaj> oh pls not that again
[12:16] <ardchoille> lol
[12:16] <ardchoille> Nevermind
[12:16] <ardchoille> Tired of it BluesKaj, lol
[12:16] <intelikey> i don't think it's again.... i think it's just more of the same.
[12:16] <imagine> Havin several problems one with vim, when I press "i" if I use arrows to navigate it enters letter .... any idea to remove that annoying bug?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> this isn't the place for cell phone discussions ...2 days of it was enuff ardchoille :)
[12:17] <intelikey> different key map ?
[12:18] <ardchoille> BluesKaj: Totally agreed :)
[12:19] <BluesKaj> semantics intelikey :)