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| Enverex | Damnit, there's another one now aswell | 01:44 |
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| Enverex | Why are the rt2500 and rt2500pci drivers missing from the ,22 kernel? | 02:11 |
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| Enverex | (and .21 kernel for that matter) | 02:16 |
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| gnomefreak | Enverex: neither have been released as upgrade. you will be missing modules for a while in the kernels as with ever other release has seen | 02:28 |
| Enverex | gnomefreak, Ah, I thought they packaged all modules with each kernel, I didn't realise they missed any | 02:29 |
| Enverex | The issue is that the rt2500-source in the repos doesn't compile against the kernel though :/ | 02:29 |
| gnomefreak | not all modules get packaged right away or you would get alot more breakage | 02:29 |
| Enverex | More breakage than it not working at all? lo | 02:31 |
| Enverex | *lol | 02:31 |
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| gnomefreak | Enverex: breakage to other things | 02:32 |
| gnomefreak | hence more people with broken kernel | 02:33 |
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| gnomefreak | Enverex: if you want more of an ETA on it check with #ubuntu-kernel but dont be suprised if you dont get an answer its weekend and most people are not here | 02:34 |
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| Enverex | Ah, it's just annoying how the kernel lacks it and it the package in the repo wont compile against the kernel | 02:35 |
| gnomefreak | Enverex: that is why its not in it :) | 02:35 |
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| Enverex | ... | 02:36 |
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| crimsun | Enverex: fix it, submit the diff. | 02:45 |
| Enverex | crimsun, ... erm, yeah... because I know everything about the 2500 RT driver... | 02:49 |
| Hobbsee | learn it. | 02:49 |
| Enverex | ... I'm having Dejavu of being back on Gentoo... | 02:50 |
| crimsun | Enverex: in short, because the kernel is strapped for resources, and because no one from the community has stepped up to give it some love, it's not there. | 02:51 |
| crimsun | kernel team, even. | 02:51 |
| Hobbsee | Enverex: gentoo is the same - it doestn ahve infinite resources for development. it requires people to step up if they want to see something happening, in almost all cases. | 02:52 |
| Enverex | And here I was thinking Ubuntu was the "just works" distro | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | it usually does. | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | but that doesnt mean it doesnt have areas it cant improve on | 02:53 |
| Hobbsee | nor does it mena that it doesnt have the manpower problems of any linux distro | 02:54 |
| Enverex | It's just odd that the driver used to be in the kernel and it was actually "the" recommended chipset to have on the Wiki guides | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | then it shouldnt be that hard to get it in again | 02:55 |
| Hobbsee | oh good, kdepim built and was published. | 02:57 |
| Enverex | Hobbsee, That would be true if I could get it to compile against the kernel... | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | heh, indeed | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: who knows anything about poppler, apart from pitti? | 03:00 |
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| crimsun | Hobbsee: maybe seb or the Debian maintainer. | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | right | 03:07 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: krita looks for a file that now doesnt exist. | 03:07 |
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| LjL | ubotwo part | 03:11 |
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| DanaG | Hmm, now suspend works, but resume doesn't. | 07:08 |
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| mzuverink | whenever I log out of my user while the ATI proprietary drivers are install I cannot get a login screen, all goes black and stays that way, any fix come to mind anyone? | 10:34 |
| Hobbsee | remove the ATI drivers? | 10:34 |
| gnomefreak | mzuverink: feisty? | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | ATI probably hasnt updated tehir drivers for the new xorg in gutsy | 10:35 |
| mzuverink | yeah feisty | 10:35 |
| gnomefreak | mzuverink: ask in #ubuntu | 10:35 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: they havent | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | yay, ATI | 10:35 |
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| mzuverink | they havent answered much there all night of any relevence | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | normally they release around beta unless they have changed the way they release | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | mzuverink: read the topic of this channel it is only for gutsy | 10:36 |
| mzuverink | sorry, my bad | 10:36 |
| gnomefreak | mzuverink: good chance they dont know. file a bug or if you have beryl/compiz disable it | 10:36 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: ahh | 10:37 |
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| cyphase | is there a cd image of gutsy, or do you have to dist-upgrade from feisty? | 11:40 |
| Hobbsee | dist-upgrade | 11:40 |
| cyphase | thought so | 11:40 |
| cyphase | thanks | 11:40 |
| Hobbsee | see the topic, with the schedule, for when there will be | 11:41 |
| cyphase | yea, i have.. i just thought there might be a daly build | 11:41 |
| cyphase | daily* | 11:41 |
| gnomefreak | cyphase: its not ready for any public testing yet. its is for devels atm | 11:42 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: it's really not that bad atm - as long as you dont need things like oo.o | 11:42 |
| cyphase | gnomefreak: i know.. i'm just going to install it in a VM | 11:42 |
| gnomefreak | Hobbsee: right now no its really not but it will be | 11:42 |
| gnomefreak | cyphase: you are gonna need to upgrade. | 11:43 |
| cyphase | gnomefreak: yea, i know | 11:43 |
| Hobbsee | gnomefreak: true dat. | 11:43 |
| gnomefreak | if they dont fix hunspell and poppler than it will be a bit late | 11:44 |
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| gnomefreak | cyphase: it will remove gimp and a few other thing | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | s | 11:44 |
| Hobbsee | poppler has been fixed | 11:44 |
| Hobbsee | it's the others which are slow | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | ah | 11:44 |
| Hobbsee | and it appears that the popler interface has changed a fair bit - krita didnt build, for eg | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | gimp was uninstallible yesterday | 11:44 |
| cyphase | gnomefreak: again, i'm going to install it in a VM. I don't want to dedicate a machine to it right now | 11:44 |
| gnomefreak | oh it was a fairly big change | 11:45 |
| gnomefreak | cyphase: im just letting you know what is going to happen so you dont come back saying crap gimp is gone i needed that | 11:45 |
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| iKs | Hi all :) | 01:15 |
| iKs | I just installed Gutsy (I upgraded from Fesity) and I'm having a tiny problem with fonts | 01:16 |
| iKs | When I rebooted, all my fonts were like 2 pts smaller | 01:16 |
| iKs | that was not a real problem, I went to System >> Admin >> Fonts and chossed 12 instead of 10 | 01:16 |
| iKs | but some apps do not take thi sinto account :s | 01:16 |
| iKs | Firefox (task bar and body), Thunderbird (task bar), XChat(body) | 01:17 |
| iKs | Does anyone have the same problem ? | 01:17 |
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| iKs | Anyone ? :s | 01:21 |
| zaggynl | iKs, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=437727 | 01:28 |
| zaggynl | yay forums and google | 01:28 |
| Hobbsee | !weekend is <reply> It's a weekend. Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week. | 01:29 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that, Hobbsee | 01:29 |
| zaggynl | awesome | 01:29 |
| iKs | zaggynl: Thx a lot ! I ran a search on font and didn't find anything | 01:29 |
| zaggynl | iKs, I hope it works out for ya :) | 01:29 |
| iKs | zaggynl: but searching for thuderbird and Firefox is not a bad idea :p | 01:30 |
| iKs | zaggynl: I'll read the topic ;) Thx again | 01:30 |
| zaggynl | iKs, actually I used this: 'http://www.google.nl/search?hl=nl&q=gutsy+small+fonts&btnG=Google+zoeken&meta=' | 01:30 |
| zaggynl | !zaggynl is <reply> some random guy on #ubuntu | 01:30 |
| zaggynl | :( | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | !night is <reply> It's the middle of the night in the US and the UK. This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, and so therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question. Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake. This is particularly true in the quieter channels. | 01:30 |
| ubotu | I'll remember that, Hobbsee | 01:30 |
| Hobbsee | !night | 01:31 |
| ubotu | It's the middle of the night in the US and the UK. This means that a lot of people are likely asleep, and so therefore there are less potential people who can answer your question. Please be patient, and consider asking at a time when more people will be awake. This is particularly true in the quieter channels. | 01:31 |
| Hobbsee | good bot. | 01:31 |
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| iKs | zaggynl: Worked for XChat and for Fiefox and Thunderbird before their reboot :/ | 01:35 |
| iKs | (XCHat still works fine but Firefox and Thunderbird came back to default) | 01:36 |
| iKs | Anyway it's not a big deal and knowing I'm not the only one experiencing this issue is enough for me ;) | 01:36 |
| iKs | I'll have a look at LP | 01:36 |
| zaggynl | oki | 01:36 |
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| Enverex | Hobbsee, Middle of the night? It's 1 in the afternoon | 01:53 |
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| zaggynl | Enverex, he was adding stuff and testing ;-) | 01:54 |
| Enverex | Ah, lol | 01:55 |
| Enverex | and the US is like 5 to 8 hours behind the UK, or even 6 to 9 during BST so if it's the middle of the night in the UK then it wont be in the US | 01:55 |
| Hobbsee | zaggynl: she. but true | 01:58 |
| zaggynl | oh, pardon me :3, I missed your female characteristics | 01:58 |
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| Hobbsee | :) | 01:59 |
| Enverex | Heh, "Hobbs" doesn't sound female :P Always makes me think of the guy from the start of Beneath a Steel Sky, Hobbins :P | 02:00 |
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| Hobbsee | Enverex: sure, but sarah does :) | 02:00 |
| zaggynl | ah, there we go | 02:01 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 02:01 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:01 |
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| Enverex | "Like my little robot?" "It's crap son" | 02:02 |
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| kurisu | hi, does anyone know how to fix this please: PCI: Bus #06 (-#09) is hidden behind transparent bridge #01 (-#01) | 02:40 |
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| gnomefreak | kurisu: feisty? | 02:45 |
| kurisu | yes | 02:46 |
| gnomefreak | kurisu: join #ubuntu and ask please | 02:46 |
| kurisu | ahh oh yeah im in the wrong channel... sorry | 02:47 |
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| ScarFreewill | any1 treid to run kde4? | 04:17 |
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| jadacyrus | Is there a way to install linux-restricted-modules w/out nvidia-kernel-common | 05:23 |
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| DanaG | I fixed xubuntu-desktop by installing the Feisty versions of the mixer and mixer-alsa packages. | 07:00 |
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| DanaG | This channel often seems rather quiet. | 07:31 |
| jussi01 | DanaG: it is as gutsy is not yet even alpha... | 07:37 |
| DanaG | Good point there. | 07:37 |
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| DanaG | WTFhellz? | 08:08 |
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| binskipy2u | hey guys, how can i know how far a default install of ubuntu 7.04 will update 2? | 10:12 |
| binskipy2u | package by package? | 10:12 |
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| _StefanS_ | hi there | 11:18 |
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| _StefanS_ | I was going to report an issue with the latest gutsy kernel and mptscsi | 11:19 |
| _StefanS_ | just wanted to know if someone already noticed that | 11:20 |
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