[03:24] <Hobbsee> @schedule sydney
[03:24] <ubotu> Schedule for Australia/Sydney: 28 May 00:00: LoCo Team | 30 May 01:00: Kernel Team | 30 May 07:00: Community Council | 30 May 22:00: Edubuntu | 31 May 06:00: Xubuntu Developers | 01 Jun 02:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[03:27] <stgraber> @schedule Zurich
[03:27] <ubotu> Schedule for Europe/Zurich: 27 May 16:00: LoCo Team | 29 May 17:00: Kernel Team | 29 May 23:00: Community Council | 30 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 30 May 22:00: Xubuntu Developers | 31 May 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[04:00] <elkbuntu> Okies. who do we have here for the LoCo Teams Meeting?
[04:01] <rafael_carreras> that's me, Catalan LoCo Contact
[04:02] <elkbuntu> rafael_carreras, cool. we might wait a few moments for everyone to remember
[04:02] <rafael_carreras> ok
[04:04] <jenda> Burgwork: pong
[04:04] <elkbuntu> calling all loco people. AlinuxOS, juliux, jenda, Burgwork, nixternal, poningru?
[04:05] <jenda> whoa
[04:05] <elkbuntu> muaha. we now have two!
[04:05] <juliux> hi elkbuntu
[04:05] <AlinuxOS> elkbuntu, I'm from Georgian (ka - ) team.
[04:05] <jenda> elkbuntu: total coincidence ;) I was responding to Burg's ping from yesterday.
[04:05] <elkbuntu> three! my lucky day!
[04:05] <juliux> elkbuntu, what is now?
[04:05] <leogg> ubuntu-ni here, morning all
[04:06] <elkbuntu> ooh... i should try this pingspamming more often!
[04:06] <juliux> elkbuntu, lol
[04:06] <elkbuntu> anyway, welcome all
[04:06] <juliux> elkbuntu, ask seveas if ubotu can do that;)
[04:07] <elkbuntu> juliux, arming a bot, that interacts with users, with a pingspam feature.. is not a good idea :
[04:07] <elkbuntu> hey... i didnt say he could go :(
[04:08] <elkbuntu> Ok, so the main point for this meeting is to discuss the discussions had at UDS regarding LoCos
[04:09] <elkbuntu> we had two formal discussions, one about resources, and one about collaboration
[04:10] <elkbuntu> as a result of the resources discussion, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoHosting has been cleaned up, and the resources available are now better explained
[04:11] <Seveas> theres @nicks :)
[04:11] <jenda> Seveas: shhh
[04:11] <elkbuntu> bwaha. you speak, you stay and contribute!
[04:11] <elkbuntu> Seveas, were you at the resources discussion?
[04:11] <jenda> yes, I will :)
[04:11] <jenda> for a while.
[04:12] <elkbuntu> jenda, you were already captured, it's Seveas' turn :
[04:14] <elkbuntu> smurf, ping? i believe you might have been there?
[04:15] <jenda> elkbuntu: ah, of course - I never thought of Seveas as a LoCo team person... more like an IRC overgod ;)
[04:15] <elkbuntu> he's the head of the mad dutch people army
[04:15] <jenda> and if it ain't the French representation now :)
[04:15] <elkbuntu> hello yann
[04:16] <yann2> hey :)
[04:16] <jenda> good idea
[04:16] <jenda> :)
[04:16] <jenda> elkbuntu: linky?
[04:16] <yann2> no i mean, where is it? ^^
[04:16] <elkbuntu> jenda, i think the agenda is a wee bit old
[04:16] <jenda> ok
[04:16] <elkbuntu> i never got around to updating it
[04:17] <jenda> so... why is it we're here? ;)
[04:17] <elkbuntu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamMeeting
[04:17] <elkbuntu> jenda, discussing the UDS things
[04:17] <elkbuntu> which i cant remember all of :(
[04:17] <jenda> Ah
[04:17] <jenda> neither can I, but I think my memory isn't to blame this time around ;)
[04:17] <elkbuntu> Burgwork, was taking nice notes, but he seems to be actually working or something
[04:18] <Seveas> weaseling around...
[04:18] <elkbuntu> lol
[04:18] <yann2> isnt the agenda the one from last time? ^^
[04:18] <jenda> elkbuntu: at 11 AM on sunday... maybe he's in church :)
[04:18] <elkbuntu> yann2, yes, thats why i said it was a wee bit out of date
[04:18] <yann2> *g*
[04:18] <yann2> so, what are the issues today?
[04:19] <elkbuntu> jenda, discussing the UDS things \n s/jenda/yann/
[04:19] <jenda> hehe
[04:19] <jenda> ya, I got that part... ;)
[04:19] <elkbuntu> jenda, i was repeating for yann
[04:20] <jenda> ok, ok :)
[04:21] <jenda> elkbuntu: and those are...?
[04:21] <elkbuntu> anyway, the resources issues were discussed. I cant remember who smurf said he had offloaded to, and jono was going to work on passing the mailing list request QA to someone else
[04:21] <jenda> elkbuntu: for those of us who couldn't attend...
[04:21] <jenda> ok
[04:21] <elkbuntu> jenda, patience please
[04:21] <elkbuntu> but either way, some of the bottlenecks should be gone, or should go soon in terms of resources
[04:22] <yann2> I got some things i would enjoy to discuss with you, it there is an "others" in this meeting :)
[04:22] <elkbuntu> secondly, we discussed collaboration between locos and other teams
[04:22] <elkbuntu> yann2, we'll see how we go
[04:22] <yann2> elkbuntu> secondly, we discussed collaboration between locos and other teams <- it may be this one, depending what you mean :)
[04:23] <elkbuntu> richard weideman gave us an example, in terms of the education representatives that teams are encouraged to appoint
[04:24] <elkbuntu> these could be someone in the team who is a teacher or has an interest in education, to help feed information into the education/edubuntu teams
[04:24] <elkbuntu> basically keeping the edu guys briefed on what challenges still exist locally, what local teachers/students/institutions are looking for, etc etc
[04:25] <elkbuntu> these sorts of roles can be equally appropriate for instance with the Marketing Team, or possibly even the Art Team, who with enough prodding may establish local art packages (as an example of course)
[04:26] <elkbuntu> things like that.
[04:26] <elkbuntu> yann2 was that what you wanted to discuss?
[04:26] <yann2> points of collaboration with locos from other projets - i got sources telling me that mozilla may start a loco project
[04:27] <elkbuntu> that's awesome
[04:27] <elkbuntu> we most certainly encourage them to work with us
[04:27] <yann2> although just rumours for now :)
[04:28] <yann2> and then i don't know for you, but we have a lot of issues with that "sexism" story :(
[04:28] <elkbuntu> yann2, we can discuss that one later
[04:28] <elkbuntu> not in this meeting
[04:28] <yann2> np
[04:28] <elkbuntu> ok, i think that's about it for what i can remember from UDS
[04:29] <elkbuntu> now, I'm going to remind people that now is the perfect time to start thinking about organising an event for Software Freedom Day
[04:30] <elkbuntu> it's a perfect thing for locos to organise around. if there's a number of lugs running events in your countries, making sure there's ubuntu representation at those lug's events is a Really Good Idea
[04:30] <jenda> elkbuntu: in my personal opinion, the main role of the marketing team is to supply LoCo teams with resources and gather them from other LoCo teams - the other roles it fulfills right now (intra-community communication such as the UWN/magazine/etc) aren't really marketing per se.
[04:31] <elkbuntu> jenda, it goes both ways. translations, uwn stories
[04:31] <jenda> (just my 2 regarding LoCo-MT cooperation)
[04:31] <elkbuntu> locos are an ideal contact point for translators who dont yet know rosetta, for example
[04:31] <jenda> indeed
[04:32] <elkbuntu> someone wanting to have something to prove themselves on, before going for the real deal
[04:32] <jenda> BTW, Rosetta is not used by our translation team anymore.
[04:32] <jenda> It has been found insufficient for its task, as it doesn't offer enough flexibility and cooperation with the upstream.
[04:32] <jenda> but that's another issue.
[04:32] <elkbuntu> indeed it is
[04:33] <jenda> (And I'm not the one most knowledgeable in the subject)
[04:33] <elkbuntu> that is one that should be discussed directly with the rosetta guys, imho
[04:33] <jenda> I believe it has been, but let's not go into that.
[04:34] <elkbuntu> right. so back to Software Freedom Day... who else has started planning?
[04:35] <leogg> elkbuntu, we are organizing the event here in .ni
[04:35] <leogg> no lugs involved so far
[04:35] <elkbuntu> for those who dont know what it is, Software Freedom Day (SFD) is on saturday september 15th, when open source addicts go out and infect others with the fever ;)
[04:35] <yann2> jenda , sorry, which locoteam are you from again?
[04:36] <jenda> yann2: Czech
[04:36] <yann2> thx :)
[04:36] <elkbuntu> leogg, it's a good idea to get them on board, as they will be able to provide additional people to help run it, and also, different information and more points of view
[04:37] <leogg> elkbuntu, sadly there are no strong lugs in our country, only the ubuntu team but we have some people from suse and fedor on board :)
[04:37] <elkbuntu> information about the day can be found at http://softwarefreedomday.org/ and teams that register before 31st of July will get some free tshirts, balloons and cds to help run the day
[04:38] <elkbuntu> Note to self: time for a reminder about it on the loco list
[04:38] <rafael_carreras> elkbuntu: good idea
[04:39] <elkbuntu> for up and coming teams, organising this is a great thing to put on an application for official status :)
[04:39] <elkbuntu> ok. i think this is about all for this topic. does anyoen else have anything they wanted to bring up?
[04:44] <elkbuntu> ok then. meeting closed. thank you all for coming :)
[04:45] <leogg> thanks for your time elkbuntu
[04:45] <elkbuntu> no problem
[04:45] <yann2> hum
[04:45] <yann2> elkbuntu , and my topic ? /o\ :D
[04:46] <elkbuntu> yann2, oh?
[04:46] <yann2> the "i cant to work with mozillian (and OOo) locoteams" one :p
[04:47] <elkbuntu> i think collaboration would be decided on a team-by-team basis
[04:47] <yann2> i thought of something else
[04:47] <elkbuntu> oh?
[04:47] <yann2> canonical is providing hosting to locoteams
[04:47] <elkbuntu> approved ones, yes
[04:48] <yann2> mozilla is thinking of doing the same
[04:48] <yann2> sun/OOo may do the same in a near-to-medium future, who knows
[04:48] <yann2> i would love to see them work together on this issue
[04:48] <elkbuntu> the lead of their loco projects are welcome to contact either jono or myself for advice
[04:48] <yann2> its not that neither /o\
[04:49] <elkbuntu> what then?
[04:49] <yann2> i want to advocate to see canonical, mozilla and maybe sun open a common datacenter
[04:49] <yann2> and have common rules to get like conference packs
[04:49] <elkbuntu> ooooh
[04:49] <yann2> hosting
[04:49] <yann2> whatever
[04:49] <yann2> a common company for tee shirts, aother one for stickers
[04:49] <yann2> but that we share our contacts on this kind of stuff
[04:49] <elkbuntu> this now goes beyond me, this should go to jono and/or gerry
[04:50] <yann2> but do you think that it is possible, would you suppor it? :)
[04:50] <elkbuntu> i think it is feasible, and i encourage it
[04:51] <yann2> i would love if you would help spread the word :)
[04:51] <yann2> i think this would make locos from different oss horizons work together
[04:52] <elkbuntu> agreed
[04:52] <yann2> seems mozilla hired a locoguy 6 monthes ago and that they start to get things rocking :)
[04:53] <yann2> the mozillian jono seems to be Seth Bindernagel <sethb@mozilla.com>
[04:53] <elkbuntu> yann2, thanks :)
[04:53] <yann2> thanks for helping spread the word ;)