[12:33] <superm1> gardengnome, the branch moved
[12:34] <superm1> run "bzr co http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/mythbuntu/mythbuntu"
[12:34] <superm1> instead.  thats the new location of the branch
[12:38] <gardengnome> thanks.
[12:44] <gardengnome> superm1: http://www.pastebin.ca/512314 ;)
[12:44] <superm1> oooh me likey
[12:45] <superm1> no mythweather?
[12:45] <superm1> patch?
[12:45] <gardengnome> superm1: btw, could you please tell me why we apply debian/patches/05_11372.dpatch to mythtv?
[12:45] <gardengnome> superm1: not yet. haven't gotten around to that yet.
[12:45] <gardengnome> superm1: i forgot how dpatch works every time so progress is slow ;)
[12:45] <superm1> ah
[12:46] <superm1> lets see what that patch was
[12:46] <superm1> one sec
[12:46] <gardengnome> it basically renames one define
[12:46] <gardengnome> which is rather useless, IMHO
[12:47] <superm1> i think because it isn't just for when ATI drivers are broke
[12:47] <superm1> i think it can also happen with other drivers
[12:47] <superm1> and that might have been why
[12:47] <gardengnome> yes, IEGD for example
[12:47] <superm1> i didnt write the patch myself
[12:47] <gardengnome> yes, it's a backport from svn trunk AFAIK
[12:47] <superm1> in a sense, its not really "necessary"
[12:47] <gardengnome> i had to use that define myself a lot in the past ;)
[12:47] <superm1> haha i see
[12:48] <superm1> ATI card?
[12:48] <gardengnome> i just got confused by the patch, especially because the header wasn't updated properly
[12:48] <superm1> blame christian for that :)
[12:48] <gardengnome> superm1: no, S100 whose tv-out requires IEGD
[12:48] <superm1> ah
[12:48] <gardengnome> http://www.t-online.de/international/pressebilder/t-online-s100.jpg
[12:48] <gardengnome> ^^ nifty toy :)
[12:49] <gardengnome> celeron 733, 128M RAM, wlan, fanless, nice remote control. can be had for 50 on ebay :)
[12:49] <superm1> whats that in dollars?
[12:50] <superm1> i dont know going exchange rates off hand
[12:50] <gardengnome> about $67
[12:50] <gardengnome> http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi :)
[12:50] <superm1> looks like it could make a decent sd fe
[12:50] <gardengnome> sure.
[12:50] <gardengnome> it's just sad that it requires a propreitary driver
[12:51] <superm1> indeed
[12:51] <gardengnome> i was working on making minimyth run on the s100, but got distracted by my finals. i'll make that happen right after the svn packages. i'
[12:51] <superm1> i thought intel's drivers were opened?
[12:51] <gardengnome> m almost there, just need to add some bits to parse IEGD specific config options :)
[12:51] <gardengnome> superm1: no. not all of them.
[12:51] <superm1> tis a shame
[12:51] <gardengnome> superm1: the tv-out encoder (FS545) is a closed source driver
[12:52] <gardengnome> ok, it's bedtime. talk to you tomorrow :)
[12:52] <superm1> but being wifi, netboot is out of the question
[12:52] <superm1> okay
[12:52] <superm1> night then
[12:52] <gardengnome> it's also normal ethernet :)
[12:52] <gardengnome> bye
[01:22] <superm1> Daviey, areyou here
[10:22] <superm1> Daviey, good mornin
[11:06] <gardengnome> morning
[02:29] <gardengnome> guys.
[02:29] <gardengnome> am i doing something wrong herE?
[02:29] <gardengnome> i can't checkout from bzr.
[02:29] <gardengnome> http://www.pastebin.ca/513772
[02:30] <gardengnome> superm1: i'd appreciate it if you could take a look
[02:30] <gardengnome> i hope i'm using the correct repository
[02:31] <gardengnome> lots of teeth-grinding and hair-pulling here
[03:45] <Cyberai> what the hell happened to the mythtv-users channel?
[03:47] <Hugolp> nothing
[03:57] <gardengnome> why?
[03:58] <gardengnome> it's still the same bunch of ignorant assholes
[04:02] <gardengnome> including me.
[04:02] <gardengnome> :)
[04:16] <Cyberai> I'd hardly call you ignorant gardengnome
[04:17] <Cyberai> I just can't seem to see the channel anymore
[04:17] <Cyberai> weird, now it's there
[04:17] <Cyberai> windows sucks
[05:21] <superm1> gardengnome, that looks like the right command
[05:21] <superm1> hm
[05:28] <gardengnome> weird, huh?
[05:29] <gardengnome> my bzr is version 0.11-0ubuntu1
[05:30] <superm1> 0.15-0ubuntu2
[05:30] <superm1> is mine
[05:30] <superm1> but i dont know that is the cause
[05:30] <gardengnome> i'll try upgrading
[05:30] <gardengnome> :(
[05:30] <gardengnome> i love how stuff like this impairs productivity ;)
[05:33] <superm1> haha
[05:34] <gardengnome> but virtualbox is working now. \o/
[06:08] <gardengnome> hum
[06:08] <gardengnome> it looks like the new storage groups stuff doesn't allow for a default directory.
[06:09] <gardengnome> maybe we'll have to insert something into the DB manually, although that sounds like an ugly hack ;)
[06:09] <gardengnome> (i actually wonder what i patched then)
[06:12] <superm1> oh weird
[06:13] <superm1> if there is no default directory, you *have* to put in your directories?
[06:13] <superm1> in mythtv-setup
[06:14] <gardengnome> yes.
[06:15] <gardengnome> superm1: is libdts support enabled by default in your packages?
[06:16] <superm1> Should be.
[06:17] <superm1> libdts-dev is a build dep
[06:17] <superm1> and during configure, you get "DTS passthrough  yes"
[06:17] <superm1> was there ever a determination with regard to --compile-type=debug
[06:17] <gardengnome> thanks. i don't get the positive messages from configure
[06:18] <superm1> what optimizations are stripped?
[06:18] <gardengnome> superm1: um, i actually forgot to ask about that. will do so later ;)
[06:18] <superm1> if all the debug symbols are still put in there by --compile-type=profile, it's not a big deal to switch.  but for using dbgsym support in ubuntu, its necessary
[06:18] <superm1> to use --compile-type=debug
[06:19] <gardengnome> there was a dpatch to link against dts_pic instead of just dts. i think it's obsolete because this functionality is already in svn trunk. i'll try determining that.
[06:19] <gardengnome> superm1: why? won't dbgsym support work with the debug symbols provided by --profile?
[06:20] <superm1> Well that's what i'm wondering
[06:20] <superm1> what debug symbols are generated by --profile
[06:20] <gardengnome> ah
[06:20] <gardengnome> ;)
[06:20] <gardengnome> i seem to remember that those debug symbols are not as good as those generated by --compile-type=debug
[06:20] <superm1> thats what the guys in #mythtv need to tell the truth on :)
[06:20] <gardengnome> i'll just bug someone about that
[06:20] <gardengnome> yep :)
[06:21] <gardengnome> mythweb is working!
[06:21] <gardengnome> yay \o/ ;)
[06:21] <superm1> :)
[06:21] <gardengnome> um
[06:21] <gardengnome> suppose i'll get that mythweather patch in then.
[06:24] <superm1> Okay need to get running, i'll have to be leaving for the airport again soon
[06:24] <superm1> catch you later on gardengnome
[06:25] <gardengnome> have a nice day:)
[06:47] <dmandell> Hi, anybody home?
[06:48] <keescook> i am, but you were already talking to me.  ;)
[06:48] <keescook> superm1 _just_ logged out
[06:50] <keescook> gardengnome: have you tried doing a remote frontend before?
[06:51] <gardengnome> yes
[06:51] <gardengnome> in fact, i was successful in doing so
[06:52] <keescook> cool!  dmandell was having trouble, so I directed him here since I haven't done that before.
[06:52] <dmandell> gardengnome:  I've got a question for you wrt remote frontends?
[06:53] <dmandell> Remote frontend can find and connect to backend when I first start up the frontend.
[06:54] <dmandell> 2007-05-27 09:43:57.157 Gnome-Screensaver support enabled
[06:54] <dmandell> 2007-05-27 09:43:57.157 DPMS is active.
[06:54] <dmandell> 2007-05-27 09:43:57.167 New DB connection, total: 1
[06:54] <dmandell> 2007-05-27 09:43:57.175 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host: 192.168.11.6
[06:54] <dmandell> But when I try to select manage recordings it seems to be trying to connect to localhost instead
[06:54] <dmandell> 2007-05-27 09:44:05.878 Connecting to backend server: 127.0.0.1:6543 (try 1 of 5)
[06:54] <dmandell> And of course failing.
[06:55] <dmandell> Any idea where that would be coming from?
[06:55] <gardengnome> yes
[06:55] <gardengnome> dmandell: open mythtv-setup on the master backend, go to the first menu entry there and set the ip addresses to correct values
[06:57] <dmandell> gardengnome:  Ah, that makes sense, thanks for your help.
[06:57] <gardengnome> i think that's a FAQ ;)
[06:57] <dmandell> I must have been googling on the wrong words, I should have known it would be in the FAQ.  Thanks.
[06:57] <gardengnome> np
[07:21] <gardengnome> anyone in here alive?
[07:21] <gardengnome> i want this stupid bzr branch.
[07:21] <gardengnome> :)
[08:04] <littletank> Hello, having just started to try to setup I would like to listen in and see what's what.
[08:07] <gardengnome> there's not much going on right now
[08:07] <gardengnome> are you looking for something in particular?
[08:08] <littletank> I am concerned about finding channels with scan
[08:08] <littletank> I get lots of signal but no channels.
[08:09] <gardengnome> how do you scan?
[08:09] <littletank> As part of backend setup
[08:09] <gardengnome> ffs.
[08:09] <gardengnome> i'm supposed to apply this patch but i can't find it. *sigh*
[08:09] <gardengnome> littletank: DVB-S?
[08:10] <littletank> I am not familiar with DVB-S
[08:11] <gardengnome> littletank: i just want to know how you receive your signal
[08:12] <littletank> I use Freeview in the UK
[08:12] <gardengnome> ah
[08:12] <gardengnome> um, i'm not familiar with that setup, sorry
[08:12] <gardengnome> actually, #mythtv-users is a better place
[08:12] <gardengnome> this channel is mostly developer talk
[08:13] <gardengnome> and me bitching about bazaar.
[08:13] <littletank> OK, and thank you
[08:13] <littletank> good bye