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Ramlavlc and mplayer played my dvd's without xine1-ffmpeg but totem didn't.12:30
PumpernickelVLC and mplayer provide their own codecs.  Totem doesn't.12:31
Jester45totem is a front end of xine VLC and mplayer are standalone12:34
JJNovamplayer > *12:37
PumpernickelTotem isn't a front end for xine.  It uses xinelib or gstreamer.12:38
JJNovaTotem woiuld never work properly for me.12:39
Ramlamplayer sucks for playing dvd's. You might be able to watch a single movie with it, but there's no way you can use it to watch a tv series without menus since the dvd tracks are usually in no order12:46
RamlaI don't know about others but with vlc sound doesn't work properly on dvd playback, so I'm with totem. Mplayer for everything else though.12:47
Ramla*doesn't work properly for me12:47
JJNovaYeah, I don't watch DVD's on my PC, so that would explain not experiencing a problem with Mplayer12:47
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RamlaApparently there's experimental dvd menu support for mplayer though. Anybody tried it?12:50
Gerrouse totem it works I think12:52
Gerromplayer is buggy as heck unless you have all the libraries setup correctly12:52
Gerrothink ubuntu does that on purpose, everyone seems to be all about the totem12:53
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=== Gerro so does I
JJNovaOf course, I don't watch DVD's on my PC, so that might be why I have nothing to like form Totme12:53
JJNovaTotem12:53
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=== Gerro tots JJNova
JJNovatots12:59
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Gerroeep01:00
=== Gerro tots you all
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silent_I installed xubuntu, but I'm installing gnome D:>01:29
JJNovay ?01:30
JJNovaI thought you were doing a debian install ?01:30
silent_I was, but it kept freezing on a particular part due to a scratched cd01:31
silent_and I didn't want to burn another cd01:31
JJNovaheh01:31
silent_but I like what I see so far01:32
silent_xfce seems a little bare though01:32
JJNovaare you using sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?01:32
silent_nope, is that a bad thing?01:32
JJNovaWell, I guess not.01:32
silent_just went through synaptic01:32
JJNovaDoing it the way mentioned would of installed all of the applications and stuff that comes with ubuntu01:32
silent_I think I'm getting the apps anyway01:33
silent_even though I didnt want them01:33
JJNovaheh01:33
silent_its downloading games etc01:33
silent_>_<01:33
JJNovaUbuntu has a lot of apps that are packaged together01:33
silent_yea01:33
JJNovaLike, I would want to delete all but maybe 2 games, but they were bundled together so I couldn't.01:33
silent_will my interface be preserved when I switch?01:33
JJNovaYeah, you'll be able to switch back to XFCE at anytime and it will remain as you left it01:34
JJNovaCatoptromancy_:  Did you happen to find anything else regarding Wine and XFCE ?01:49
Catoptromancy_nope01:49
Catoptromancy_seems wine overwrites xfce cfg01:50
Catoptromancy_probably better just forgetting about it01:50
JJNovaheh. But it's all cluttering my Applications menu01:50
Catoptromancy_ive had my "other" menu for over a week01:50
Catoptromancy_i know i hate it01:50
Catoptromancy_but i ignore it heh01:50
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JJNovaThat's it. I'm installing Ubuntu02:01
JJNovaThen I will remove XFCE and all related folders.02:02
JJNovaThat shuold hopefully allow me to reinstall it with a fresh system02:02
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silent_mmm, gnome is so slick02:07
TheSheepsilent_: yes, it improved a lot in the recent couple of years02:10
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JJNovaIt's too bad Wine messes things up like that. I much like XFCE02:13
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JJNovaWhat is the button sequence to kill a window ?02:15
TheSheepJJNova: wine is not a part of xfce...02:15
TheSheepJJNova: I think that xkill is by default mapped to alt+ctrl+esc02:15
JJNovaI understand that, but Wine is something that I do use, and it affects XFCE negatively02:15
JJNovathank you02:16
silent_its not ctrl+alt+backspace02:17
silent_that's for sure02:17
JJNovaheh02:17
TheSheepsilent_: no, that's the default for zapping the x server02:17
silent_:)02:18
silent_I guess I should install fluxbox now02:18
silent_...maybe02:18
JJNovaRatpoison02:20
silent_ratpoison?02:22
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TheSheepratpoison is good if you hate rodents02:27
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TheSheepgoys, do you know of any font-preview program that can display ttf fonts not installed in the system?02:29
TheSheepguys02:29
PumpernickelThere's gfontview, I guess.02:30
Pumpernickel!info gfontview02:30
ubotugfontview: font viewer for Type 1 and TrueType fonts. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.0-6 (feisty), package size 76 kB, installed size 276 kB02:30
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TheSheepPumpernickel: thank you02:32
Pumpernickelnp02:32
TheSheepargh, gnome orbit, gnome corba XD02:33
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JJNovaWow, you miss a lot of updates when you aren't using gnome.02:35
Jester45??02:35
Jester45JJNova: you confuse me once again02:35
JJNovaIt's a gift02:35
JJNovaI just switched back to Ubuntu02:36
Jester45o02:36
Jester45gnome as more programs02:36
JJNovaSomething that's not wise though.... uninstalling all aspects of xfce....while running XFCE02:36
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michaelhello02:39
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michael1384I have a problem02:40
TheSheep!ask | michael138402:41
ubotumichael1384: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:41
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michael1384i am trying to install xubuntu on an old pc but it says "can't access tty; job control turned off"02:49
TheSheepmichael1384: that's what it displays when it fails to mount the root filesystem at startup02:53
michael1384ok02:54
michael1384what should I do?02:55
TheSheepmichael1384: you see this when booting the livecd?02:55
michael1384yes02:57
TheSheepmichael1384: at the boot menu, you can see an aption to check the cd integrity -- do it02:57
michael1384ok02:58
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TheSheepmichael1384: there are chances that either the download was corrupted, the cd is faulty or the burn process failed somehow02:58
TheSheepmichael1384: if the test fails, test the checksum of the iso file you downloaded02:59
vidd_laptopmichael1384, what did you download?02:59
TheSheepmichael1384: by the way, if the coputer has less than 192MB ram, it's better to use the alternate cd, not the live cd02:59
vidd_laptopor the mini iso03:00
michael1384it has 192 mb of ram03:00
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PumaHi03:14
Jester45hi03:14
michael1384says errors found in one file03:14
Pumajester 45 can you help me with a problem, is about the resolution in xubuntu03:15
JJNovaPuma, are you trying to go up to 1280*1024 ?03:15
Jester45maybe if the resolution that you want is not listed try editing03:15
Jester45/etc/X11/xorg.conf with the command: sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf03:16
Pumano,really no03:16
PumaI want to put it in 32 bits03:17
PumaI expalin you:03:17
Jester45thats also in the xorg.conf03:17
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TheSheepmichael1384: check the iso then03:17
TheSheep!md5 | michael138403:17
ubotumichael1384: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows03:17
michael1384how?03:17
TheSheepmichael1384: here is a howto03:17
Pumain 16 an 24 bits mode appear a vertical lines03:18
TheSheepmichael1384: if the iso is corrupted -- redownload. if it's ok -- just burn it on a different cd, preferably with the slowest speed you can.03:18
michael1384ok03:18
michael1384thanks03:18
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TheSheepmichael1384: it's also possible that the cd drive in your old computer is not so good anymore03:19
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PumaI'm here again03:19
Pumain winxp in may monitor appear vertical lines in 16 or 24 bits mode (rsolution)03:20
Pumabut no in 32 bitsd03:21
Pumain Xubuntu appear vertical lines too in 16 or 24 bits mode03:21
Pumaso I can change the resolution to 32 bits mode03:22
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PumaHii03:26
Pumahi,hi03:26
Pumasomeone to help me please03:26
sigmamu188Puma: with what?03:26
Jester45puma try #ubuntu this doesnt seem to be xfce spacfic03:27
Pumaok03:27
TheSheepPuma: edit as root the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and change the line "DefaultDepth 24" to "DefaultDepth 32"03:27
PumaI will enter in Ubuntu03:27
Pumaonly that03:28
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crdlbeh?03:28
Pumathat is al I want to do03:28
sigmamu188let me see what i can do03:28
crdlb32 is wrong03:28
Pumaohh, I'm fatal03:28
crdlbit doesn't actually exist03:28
PumaI'm no speak english too well03:28
Pumapardon me03:29
michael1384little problem with that solution03:29
michael1384i deleted the iso03:29
michael1384i'm going to download it again tomorrow03:29
michael1384goodnight03:29
sigmamu188Puma: whats video card are you using?03:29
TheSheepmichael1384: well, then you have no choice :)03:29
michael1384thanks for the help03:29
TheSheepmichael1384: you might want to test the cd in a different drive though -- and replace that drive if it works fine in a differento ne03:30
Pumasignamu: my card video is a ATI Mobility Radeon M6 LY (agp)03:30
michael1384thanks03:30
michael1384bye03:30
TheSheepcrdlb: it does exist for some cards03:30
crdlb30 exists, I've never heard of 3203:30
TheSheepcrdlb: not that monitors can handle that :)03:30
crdlbie 10bit color03:30
PumaI specify03:32
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Pumadon hate me to mention windows03:32
Pumadon't hate me to mention windows03:32
TheSheepPuma: rest assured, we don't hate you03:33
Pumain winxp I have the same problem in 16 and 245 bits mode03:33
Pumain winxp I have the same problem in 16 and 24 bits mode03:33
Pumabut in 32 bits I don't have problems03:33
sigmamu188Puma:  have you install the ATI binary X.org driver?03:34
crdlbyou can't on an m603:34
crdlbthat's a radeon 700003:34
crdlbit never supported that card03:34
PumaI don't have installed the driver of ATI becouse it looks worst03:34
sigmamu188hmm03:34
PumaI 've proved  whit various drivers but Vesa work better03:35
TheSheepPuma: have you tried changing that DefaultDepth?03:35
crdlbPuma, eh?03:35
Pumareally no03:35
crdlbyou're not even using "ati"?03:35
crdlbthat's not ati's driver03:35
crdlbati's driver is fglrx03:35
sigmamu188xorg-driver-fglrx03:36
crdlbbut it doesn't support your card03:36
crdlbso don't bother03:36
Pumayou are right, fglrx works but in 24 bits mode too so I see the same vertical lines03:37
sigmamu188it might be you refresh rate set wrong03:37
crdlband it works fine with vesa?03:37
sigmamu188in the xorg.conf03:37
PumaI've configured many times and vesa works like fglrx03:39
Pumamaybe my card is damaged03:39
Pumamy videom card03:39
Pumabecause in win xp I get the same problem in 16 and 24 bits mode03:40
Pumabut if i change to 32 bits mode the screen looks well,normal03:41
sigmamu188how old is you moniter?03:41
Pumain winxp I've not installed the ati's driver03:41
Pumawell the pc is a laptop03:42
sigmamu188ok03:42
PumaI think it was bought in 2002 year03:42
Pumawin xp use vga.dll, I've seem this in dxdiag03:43
Pumaso I tried with vga in xubuntu even in mandriva so never load03:44
Pumaappear a black screen and I can't do anything ao I have to reboot03:45
JJNovaSome hardware does not support Linux, and this is predominately true in Notebook/Laptop cases03:45
sigmamu188http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.25.18.html03:45
sigmamu188not sure if that will help03:45
Pumaok03:46
JJNovaOh, sorry, just caught the tail end, didn't realize there was troubleshooting going on already03:46
Pumaso I can't change the resolution to 32 bits mode03:47
Pumaso can't I  change the resolution to 32 bits mode03:47
sigmamu188!beta03:48
Pumathe beta version of xubuntu03:48
sigmamu188are you running the latest disto of xubuntu??03:48
sigmamu188feisty03:48
sigmamu188i think03:48
sigmamu188!feisty03:48
JJNova7.0403:48
Pumawell I've downloaded two months ago03:49
Pumadapper drake LTS03:49
JJNovaSo then you have the Beta of Xubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn03:49
JJNovaoh wow03:49
sigmamu188the did the final release of feisty03:49
crdlbsigmamu188, no version of fglrx supports that card03:50
sigmamu188you should upgrade03:50
sigmamu188ahh03:50
sigmamu188i know when i upgraaded from the beta to the final all of my nvidia issues were fixed03:50
ubotuIf you are running a Herd/Beta version of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) and have been keeping it up to date, you are already running the final release version of Feisty. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console. If you last updated few days ago, you are on the final version.03:50
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Pumaits good03:51
Pumaif has gnome desktop my laptop not loaded03:52
Pumaif has gnome desktop my laptop not load03:52
Pumaor I can choose the desktop03:52
Pumaor can I choose the desktop03:53
Pumaplease, pardon my poor english, reaaly I speak spanish03:53
sigmamu188its ok03:53
sigmamu188you laptop wont gnome?03:53
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Pumawhen I tried to load a gnome desktop i have to rebbot it03:55
Pumaappear a black screen and I can't do anything03:56
Pumaso I have to rebbot03:56
Pumaan i have another method , with another desktop03:56
sigmamu188Puma: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24674603:57
Pumabut kde load03:57
sigmamu188see if that helps your issue03:57
Pumaok03:57
sigmamu188also when you installed xubuntu did you run media check one the live cd first?03:57
sigmamu188it may have just been a bad install to begin with03:58
PumaI think the memory of my video card is 16 MB due to this no load gnome03:58
Pumai don't know03:58
sigmamu188that happened on my first install03:58
sigmamu188i would say start with a clean install of linux and be sure to check the disk for errors first03:59
sigmamu188on the latest install cd's there should be an option menu with a media check option you can scroll down to04:00
sigmamu188you want to return a checksum (0)04:00
sigmamu188but then again like crdlb said ther may be no hope04:01
sigmamu188you might just need a new card04:01
PumaI think that but I just want to use the video card  because in this moment I can't buy a new04:04
Pumavideom card04:04
Pumawhat a shame04:04
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Pumathank you very much04:06
Pumanayway04:07
Pumaanyway04:07
Pumaahh04:07
sigmamu188sorry couldnt help04:07
PumaDON'T WORRY04:07
Pumaahh but I have another problem04:08
sigmamu188whats that?04:08
Pumain another distribution (ichthux)04:09
PumaI can't enter to login manager04:09
Pumakde desktop04:09
Pumain live cd in help I've seem  that is something about kdm04:09
Pumaalso04:09
PumaI can't log in at the beggining04:10
PumaI can only enter in safe mode typing STARTX04:10
sigmamu188hm04:11
sigmamu188thats over my head04:11
sigmamu188sorry04:11
sigmamu188but keep asking04:11
sigmamu188someone here will know04:11
sigmamu188i g2g04:11
Pumaok04:12
Pumathank you04:12
PumaI have to go04:16
PumaTHANK YOU VERY MUCH04:17
PumaGOOD NIGHT EVERYONE04:17
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Rynux91I should have this place setup to load as soon as I load Gaim...04:52
Rynux91...got a question...04:52
Rynux91...is the cli soupossed to be functional when using the live CD?04:52
JJNovaYes04:53
Rynux91hmm04:53
Rynux91then I have a bad live CD04:53
JJNovaAlthough I just randomnly chose Yes as my ansswer04:54
Rynux91it crashes the same way Xubuntu does when I try to load the cli...04:54
JJNovaI would assume though, pressing Control+ALT+F2 would bring up a CLI interface04:54
Rynux91in my case...it crashes the GUI...04:54
Rynux91X desktop I think...or is it X server...04:54
Rynux91ah whatever...04:54
Rynux91anyway...I'm assuming that since the CLI crashes on both the installed Xubuntu and the Live CD that ethier the disk is bad or I have some sort of hardware conflict04:55
Rynux91well..anyway...brb...going to switch back over...04:56
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Rynux91back again..05:01
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Rynux91so...05:24
Rynux91anyone here who is active in which to assistance or give advice to a new user?05:25
JJNovaIs it still the CLI problem ?05:25
Rynux91yeah05:26
Rynux91I'm now wondering if it's a hardware conflict(doubt it) or a bad CD05:27
JJNovaI can't help you out there man.05:31
Rynux91ok05:31
JJNovaCTRL+ALT+F2 didn't do anything ?05:31
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JJNovaCTRL+ALT+F2 didn't do anything ?05:33
Rynux91whenever I try to load the CLI, it crashes X Desktop(or X server(?))05:33
JJNovaX is the graphical aspect though.05:33
JJNovaX is the windows manager05:33
Rynux91it loads the CLI...which then crashes the GUI...then it restarts the GUI at the loggon screen05:33
Rynux91I wish I knew why...05:34
JJNovaSorry man. I wish I could help you out.05:36
Rynux91well...no worries..05:36
Rynux91I'll problobly get it fixed eventually ;)05:37
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mindframeis there a way for xubuntu to notify when synaptic has upgrades available?05:57
JJNovaNot that I know of. It's one of the downsides of Xubuntu05:57
JJNovabut you can install another Environment like Ubuntu and use it just for that purpose05:58
mindframeheh no thx05:58
mindframeill go with cron-apt05:58
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Myrttiwell.06:02
MyrttiIsn't synaptic part of xubuntu?06:02
JJNovayes06:03
MyrttiI remember synaptic having an option of notifying06:03
Myrttiand in ubuntu update-manager launches on starting gnome06:03
JJNovaWell I'm in Ubuntu right now, so I can't check06:03
Myrttithat's what I'm talking about, Ubuntu06:04
MyrttiI wouldn't be suprised if adding update-manager to launch in xubuntu start and/or synaptic set to notify would do the trick06:04
jgamioIn software sources -> Update -> check for update06:05
jgamioyou can select only notify06:06
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silent_crdlb, I got my drivers working06:13
silent_that library import deal was irritating, but it worked06:14
crdlbcool06:14
crdlbso you had to copy libwfb.so from somewhere?06:14
silent_yea06:15
silent_I had to extract the files inthe nvidia run, then copy a missing library to my system files06:15
silent_and poof06:16
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Plasmid47Does anyone know how to disable virtual consoles to free up RAM?06:20
crdlbyou mean like workspaces?06:20
crdlbthey don't use ram06:20
Myrttior tty's?06:21
MyrttiI doubt they use any ram if unused06:22
PumpernickelA bit, but only to mark their existence.06:22
Plasmid47TTY's and workspaces06:23
Plasmid47I'm setting up computer for my parents06:23
Plasmid47It's an old PII, so it needs all the memory I can get06:23
Plasmid47plus, they're never ever going to use anything other than the main desktop06:24
PumpernickelYou might save a few bytes by disabling them.06:24
Plasmid47I was following some of the tips here: http://www.chinwong.com/index.php/site/article/ubuntu_speed_up_tips/06:24
Plasmid47but I think that's written for Dapper, so a lot of it is out of date06:24
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Plasmid47so...suggestions?06:27
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cellofellowhello people06:48
kalikianahi cellofellow :)06:48
cellofellow:-D06:48
cellofellowanything happening?06:50
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kalikianaWell, I'm pretty busy with finishing my new website. :P06:52
kalikiana^^ Lots of php, some css fixes and of course *content*.06:53
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cellofellowI find content the hard part too. :P06:54
kalikianaI'm looking forward to relaxing and doing promotion next month :D06:57
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BFTDhi all07:09
cellofellowhey there07:10
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kalikianahey mr. crowe :D07:19
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silent_man... linux is easy.. it just takes TIME07:54
silent_-_-"07:54
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kalikianasilent_, What is that supposed to mean?07:56
silent_linux takes time08:18
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silent_2testing08:59
silent_nice08:59
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insmodif i have to click always ontop one more time i am going to loose it09:50
insmodanyone?09:50
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insmodanyone?09:54
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jon_can anyone tell me how to run pidgin in xubuntu? It works fine in Kubuntu but gives me ssl errors when in x10:11
jon_anyone?10:14
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jon_pls10:21
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sigmamu188rockey horror was awsome!10:31
jon_ can anyone tell me how to run pidgin in xubuntu? It works fine in Kubuntu but gives me ssl errors when in x10:44
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leobloomhallo!11:12
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tripppywould a P3600 with 128ram run xubuntu?12:17
tripppywould a P3, 600mhz with 128ram run xubuntu?12:17
hyper_ch!restricted12:19
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:19
hyper_ch!nvidia12:19
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:19
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grazietripppy: yes12:40
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msidis there any link online with applications xubuntu uses as preferred ?01:35
TheSheepmsid: you can look at the dependencies of the xubuntu-desktop package at http://packages.ubuntu.com01:45
TheSheepmsid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/metapackages/xubuntu-desktop01:45
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jburdHas anybody got vino working with Xubuntu?/02:16
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timmyw29g'day all02:17
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timmyw29is anyone available to help me install my ati drivers and/or get some better resolution options?02:18
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Southhi, what packages should I download to get mp3 playback on xubuntu please?03:37
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Merchelo!mp303:38
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:38
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blizzhey there04:01
blizzany idea how i could bridge a managed mode wlan interface together with a normal ethernet interface so that the hosts on the second interface can access the internet over the wireless connection?04:02
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W8TAHgood morning all -- i have 2 different versions of xubuntu -- dapper on one machine and feisty on 2 different boxes.  on the dapper box, if i right click on the desktop, i have a terminal icon in the right click menu (along with a lot of other stuff)04:18
W8TAHon the fieisty box -- its not there04:18
W8TAHhow can i get it to be there?04:18
loswilliosHello04:18
W8TAHhello04:19
loswillioscan somebody help me configuring thunderbird?04:19
W8TAHi can try although i dont use it04:19
loswilliosI want it to open firefox when I click on a link in an email04:19
W8TAHhummmmmm04:19
loswilliosand to open a pdf. currently it does nothing04:19
W8TAHthat im afraid i cant help with --  i use gmail04:20
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loswilliosaha04:20
W8TAHyou might try the #mozilla channel - they may be able to help04:20
loswilliosthx04:21
W8TAHno problem --  sorry i cant help you more04:21
loswilliosW8TAH: regarding your problem. i think you may have to edit some config-files from xfce04:22
W8TAHloswillios, i would tend to agree -- i just dont know which ones04:23
loswilliosmaybe you should try in #xfce04:25
W8TAHi did they made nasty comments about xubuntu and basically told me to get lost04:25
loswilliosuh04:25
W8TAH:)04:26
loswilliosflame wars suck hard04:26
W8TAHya they sure do04:26
W8TAHand very off putting to newbies -- which is why i try to help as much as i can in the chans im part of04:26
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grazieloswillios: for you pdf doc, right click on it in thunar and select "open with ...." and then select your pdf viewer app04:30
loswilliosgrazie: it opens fine in thunar, but not in thunderbird04:31
grazieloswillios: you want to open a pdf doc from a link in thunderbird?04:32
loswilliosfrom an attachement04:32
loswilliosit's attached to the email and when i click on it, I can only save it to disk04:33
grazieloswillios: I don't know thunderbird, but I would think it was configurable. google a bit04:34
loswilliosthis is nuts04:37
loswilliosdamnit04:44
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TehRealNexGe1hi do you have to double click .desktop files to add its contents onto the menu?05:03
TehRealNexGe1and how do you remove them. the menu editor only doesnt show any of these05:08
grazieTehRealNexGe1: if a .desktop file is in /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications it will be part of the system menu05:12
grazieTehRealNexGe1: to add to the menu, create a .desktop file ... to delete from the menu, delete (or better rename) the .desktop file05:14
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TehRealNexGe1ok thanx05:23
TehRealNexGe1ok i juggled the menu entries around a bit and changed one of the .dektop file's catagory section from just "games" (which came under "ther in the menu" to "application;games;" will this move the entry? when will it update?05:29
TehRealNexGe1lol typo what i meant to say was "Which came under "Other" in the menu"05:30
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TehRealNexGe1ok its updatd itself now no need to anser my question :)05:34
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CHORUSShello05:35
TehRealNexGe1hi05:35
CHORUSSI need some help or advice...05:35
W8TAHgrazie, will that process (detailed above) change the right click menu -- or the regular menu?05:35
TehRealNexGe1regular menu05:35
CHORUSSwhen I run xubuntu LiveCD on my 800x600 resolution laptop, I cant see desktop panels05:36
loswilliosfinally05:36
W8TAHTehRealNexGe1, ok -- how can i modify my right click menu on fieisty05:36
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TehRealNexGe1no idea :-[05:37
W8TAHbummer05:37
W8TAHok - thanks05:37
TehRealNexGe1CHORUSS: you mean workspaces05:37
TehRealNexGe1?05:37
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CHORUSSi seems it is some kind of bug, I want know if there is it on all 800x600 computers or only my05:38
CHORUSSpanel with systray etc.05:38
CHORUSSI see only icons on the desktop05:39
TehRealNexGe1ok05:39
TehRealNexGe1type "xfce4-panel"05:39
TehRealNexGe1at your terminal05:40
CHORUSSI try it05:40
TehRealNexGe1can you get to your terminal05:40
CHORUSSbut why arent they here already? on my 1024x768 monitor it is ok05:40
TehRealNexGe1erm did you try it?05:41
CHORUSSmom, I am running up my laptop with LiveCD05:42
CHORUSSit is quite old laptop05:42
TehRealNexGe1you didnt answer my question05:44
CHORUSSno yet05:44
CHORUSSmom please... comp. is starting05:44
TehRealNexGe1btw it could be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/5389705:45
ubotuLaunchpad bug 53897 in xfce4-panel "Disappearing panels Xubuntu dapper" [Undecided,Needs info] 05:45
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CHORUSSyee, I saw it... but in my case panels arent visible after booting05:47
TehRealNexGe1er what, you saw it after you typed the terminal command but not after reboot?05:48
CHORUSSafter reboot..05:48
CHORUSSagain:05:48
CHORUSSI start my LiveCD... system boots up, xfce desktop appears05:49
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CHORUSSthere should be two panels - on the top and bottom + icons on the desktop05:50
CHORUSSI can see only icons, both panels are missing05:50
CHORUSSI can switch to text mode console screen05:51
TehRealNexGe1-_- have you tried typing "xfce4-panel" yet? you still havnt told me05:51
CHORUSSI try it now, pc is finally booted up05:52
CHORUSSok05:53
CHORUSSpanels are here, how can I set it to run automatically after boot, please?05:53
TehRealNexGe1i dont know myself exctly05:54
TehRealNexGe1perhaps a script05:54
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CHORUSSso... there is one thing I like to know...05:54
CHORUSSwhy on one computer it starts automatically and on onother I have to run it manually? where is the bug?05:55
TehRealNexGe1nothing has to run automatically, its because there is a bug specific to the combination of hardware for your laptop05:56
CHORUSSahh... can I correct it?05:57
TehRealNexGe1i wouldnt know, you should try ubuntuforums.org, there are much more knowledgable people there05:57
CHORUSSok, thank you a lot05:58
TehRealNexGe1thanx05:58
CHORUSSthanx : )05:58
PumpernickelYou can just save a session with them running, and they'll be there from then on.05:58
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abuzukei have just installed xubuntu and i have 3Com ethernet device but i cannot reach it so i cannot use my internet connection, what can i do?06:36
abuzukecan you help me?06:38
Myrttiyou've tried at #ubuntu already? hardware problems aren't xubuntu spesific and you might get help there better06:39
abuzukeMyrtti, yes i have just asked06:39
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admin0anyone here have issues with Cedega?07:41
Pumpernickel!anyone07:42
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?07:42
Catoptromancy_heh07:43
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admin0ok so for some reason, I cannot have XMMS running with Cedega so as to listen to my own music while playing a game.07:44
admin0It is not necessarily needed, but it would be a nice luxury07:44
admin0I spent time trying different sound daemons for each program, but nothing seems to work07:44
PumpernickelYou'd have to use the alsa-oss wrapper for that to work.07:45
admin0after installing the wrapper do I need to do configuration?07:45
admin0thank you very much pumpernickel! you solved my problem.07:47
admin0next question, what exactly does alsa-oss do?07:48
PumpernickelOSS is the old sound system for Linux; it can only handle one application using the sound device at a time (without a sound server).07:48
PumpernickelAlsa has a mixer, and alsa-oss acts as a wrapper for OSS only applications, sending their output through that mixer.07:49
admin0so you are using alsa as a frontend for oss?07:50
admin0or does it pipe info that was made for oss through alsa?07:50
PumpernickelThe second one.07:50
admin0cool thank you very much07:50
Pumpernickelanytime07:50
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kirkehello I want to Install with "./configure" but it gives me the following error :08:18
kirkechecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables08:18
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tic1could someone help me resize a partition?  i have a bunch of gb unallocated but i can't seem to enlarge my home partition to include this free space.08:44
tic1i have rebooted into the live cd and i am using gparted.08:46
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Jester45tic1: if you try to resize you might destroy your home partition08:48
Jester45just as a warning08:48
tic1wouldn't it just give it more free space.  i don't need to change anything on the partition i just want to make it bigger.08:49
Jester45it still might destroy it08:49
tic1but is their a way to do it?08:50
Jester45yea i dont know how08:50
Jester45!partitioning08:50
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter08:50
Jester45no help08:50
tic1i am running gparted on a livecd so that i can unmount my home partition but it will only allow me to make it smaller, not bigger.  it seems to not recognize the unallocated space.08:51
PumpernickelIs the unallocated space sequential to the partition you're resizing?08:53
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Clarrisa_2008hello08:53
tic1what do you mean by sequential?  in gparted it is right beside it on the left... but i think that the answer your looking for is a little more indepth than that!  =-)08:54
Clarrisa_2008is the a way I can shutoff Xfce and then renable it only then I need it08:54
Pumpernickeltic1: I meant them being physically beside each other on the disk; you wouldn't be able to resize a partition it if they weren't.08:56
Clarrisa_2008I have a slow box running right now as a ubuntu LAmp server with no GUI and don't want it bogged down with extra stuff.  I was thinking doing sudo aptitude update08:56
Clarrisa_2008sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop, but would like to able to disable xfce if I don't need it form time to time.  My linux box is old08:56
PumpernickelClarrisa_2008: Yeah, easily enough - remove GDM from the services that get started on boot.08:56
Clarrisa_2008pumpernickel.... er.. how do I do that exactly08:57
Clarrisa_2008I assume you mean that I edit a config file, which which one08:57
Clarrisa_2008and what do I comment out08:58
tic1Pumpernickel: i believe so... they are both on in /dev/sda.  i have the unallocated, then i have /dev/sda3 which is an ext3 and is flagged for boot, then i have /dev/sda2 which is my swap.08:59
Clarrisa_2008Pumpernickel, I found the following in a forum " Personally I just rename the gdm startup file to obtain the same end result.. gdm does not start at boot."   but where is the gdm startup file on ubuntu.  I like this method that they are suggesting if you think it will work09:02
PumpernickelIt's a bit hackish.  A better solution would be to use `sysv-rc-conf`.09:04
Pumpernickel!info sysv-rc-conf09:04
ubotusysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-5 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB09:04
tic1Pumpernickel: i think i get it.  it says that their is no free space preceding it.  so even though i have a ton of unallocated space it needs to be "before" it.09:05
tic1would their be any way to move the unallocated space?09:05
PumpernickelYou might be able to move something into the unallocated space.09:07
PumpernickelAlternatively, you could format it and use LVM.09:07
tic1i will look into LVM.   thanks for the help.09:10
Pumpernickelanytime09:10
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Clarrisa_2008pumpernickel, how do I removed gdm from the services that get started at boot?  and then re-add it when I need it?09:10
Pumpernickelsysv-rc-conf, for all your service editing needs.09:11
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Clarrisa_2008where is a howto from switching between CLI and XFCE GDM?09:21
kalikiana__Clarrisa_2008, You mean switching to a virtual console?09:24
kalikiana__Clarrisa_2008, That would be as easy as Ctrl+Alt+one of the F1 to F12 keys.09:25
Jester45Clarrisa_2008: do you need the gui off ? you chould kill gdm09:25
Jester45and do what kalikiana__ to get a cli09:26
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BFTDhi09:38
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TindoraHi, I'm new to linux and having some problems with the installation of xubuntu. I wish to install xubuntu in my harddrive but I get some errors, I suspect it is that the installer uses NTFS when I'm taking "guided - entire disc" because I've got windows installed there before.09:43
TindoraI tried manual, but then there were so many file-systems I didn't know about. Witch one should I choose?09:44
PumpernickelExt3.09:44
TindoraAnd there is a swap partition, I guess that one should be there and stay as swap?09:45
PumpernickelKeeping it would be the safe choice.09:45
TindoraWhat is the swap used as? The user or the system? Should it be larger than 1538 MB witch it is set to now?09:45
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PumpernickelBoth.  It's just swap.09:46
TindoraOk. Thank you. I will try :-)09:46
PumpernickelIt gets used as necessary when your main memory isn't enough.09:46
Tindora"No root file system defined" Where do I define it? :-)09:47
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Jester45how do you check your uid and gid09:48
kalikiana__Tindora, You need one parition with the mount point '/'.09:48
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TindoraOh ok. I shouldn't use any 'media/' points if I'm not using more than the swap and the other partition?09:49
Jester45media/ is your removeable media right09:50
TindoraDunno, don't think I have any removable media inserted/installed.09:50
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PumpernickelIt would be, in an installed system.09:51
TindoraAha! Ok.09:51
PumpernickelIf you're creating only one partition for linux, then that should be '/'.09:51
TindoraNice. "Partitiions formatting" Ok, I'm excited ;-)09:52
TindoraSorry for my bad english btw.09:52
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TindoraOk, thanks reboot.10:08
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Sleepy_Coderbrb. :p10:25
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Clarrisa_2008I was using ubuntu forever, then decided to load the xubuntu desktop to give xfce a try.  I had previously set up my root user's password and have been using it forever, but now that I have xubuntu, I can't login as root, (I know I can use SUDO at a console, but this is for xfce administrationn), and it when I try to do any administrative tasks, it doesn't accept my root password.  Is there another step I need to take in or10:33
Clarrisa_2008der for xubuntu to let me do admin tasks?10:33
Jester45gksu admincommand10:34
Jester45maybe10:34
Clarrisa_2008where do I type that10:35
Jester45terminal10:35
Clarrisa_2008ok i'll try10:35
PumpernickelMost likely root login from gdm has just been disabled.10:37
Clarrisa_2008same thing, it doesn't accept my password.  I don't get it.  my root user has been function fine for a year now, until I just loaded xubuntu10:37
Clarrisa_2008pumpernickel.  I can't even perform any functions on the XFCE Applications->System menu evne though I supply my root password10:39
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TindoraAnd I'm back in the house. :-)10:50
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TindoraHow do I install rTorrent in xubuntu?10:51
Jester45sudo aptitude install rtorrent10:52
Jester45run that in a consule10:52
TindoraDoes that work with pidgin to?10:52
Jester45no10:53
Jester45you have to download the .deb manually10:53
TindoraSorry I'm new to linux :)10:53
Jester45you can download it at10:53
TindoraI couldn't find the .deb in pidgins official site.10:53
Jester45yea they didnt make one10:53
TindoraHow stupid isn't that?10:54
Jester45run: wget http://vidd.homelinux.net:8080/downloads/pidgin_2.0.0beta7-1_i386.deb10:54
TindoraOh then I'd got it right. I thought there were a full release out. I installed the beta.10:55
Jester45then run: sudo dpkg -i piggin*.deb10:55
Jester45o10:56
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Jester45the only deb i got is beta10:56
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Clarrisa_2008oh man this frustrating!!!  I can't do any administrative tasks from from Xfce, because it keeps saying "Enter your password for administrative tasks"  I give it my root password, which WORKS GREAT by the way inside a terminal using SU or SUDO, but it won't accept it in the GUI10:58
Clarrisa_2008please anyone, what do I do?10:59
vidd_laptopClarrisa_2008, are you using the USER password, and not the ROOT password (are they different)?11:01
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TindoraHow do I install VNC? Sorry for installing-questions.11:14
Clarrisa_2008vidd_laptop the user password and the root password ARE different.  I was using the root password, so then I tried my own password, and now instead of the other message I was getting, I now get "failed to run network admin as user root"  I checked my group membership from a terminal and it only says I am a member of www-data and apachegroup.  is there an admin group that I'm supposed to SUDO add myself to?11:14
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vidd_laptopyes... the SUDO group11:14
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Gerrowhere is my camera album in xubuntu?11:15
vidd_laptopor is it SUDOer group....11:15
Clarrisa_2008vidd_laptop, what is the command to do that at the terminal??? I'm sorry to be a pain11:16
vidd_laptopuhhhhh11:16
Clarrisa_2008choo11:17
vidd_laptopsudo users-admin11:17
vidd_laptopgo to "manage groups"11:18
vidd_laptopfind the "admin" group11:18
vidd_laptophit "properties"11:19
vidd_laptopand check your username11:19
vidd_laptopand let me know if that works for ya!11:19
TindoraHow do I install VNC?11:21
Lectushave anyone heard of ubuntu lite?11:21
Clarrisa_2008vidd_laptop, users and groups doesn't let me in as it wants me to have admin rights.  so typing sudo users-admin it says "clarrisa is not in the sudoers file" this incident will be reported.  So I guess I'm getting reported to the department of homeland security, ;-) but that doesn't piss me off as much as not being able to manage anything in this box11:23
vidd_laptopthen switch to SU.....11:23
vidd_laptopthen users-admin11:23
TindoraWhat VNC-client is preferred?11:24
vidd_laptopthe prefered client is which ever one works for you.....11:24
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vidd_laptopbut you might just as well use the one built right into linux11:25
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Pumpernickelxvnc4viewer is not bad.11:25
vidd_laptopin the command line type vnc11:25
Pumpernickel!info xvnc4viewer11:25
ubotuxvnc4viewer: Virtual network computing client software for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 140 kB, installed size 400 kB11:25
Clarrisa_2008vidd_laptop, ok, I'm able to go into manage users-groups and I hit properties on the admin group.  Now what?11:26
vidd_laptoperr...nvrmd about default vnc comment11:26
TindoraI would like to run a VNC server, wierd name if xvnc4viewer works with that ;)11:27
vidd_laptopClarrisa_2008, check your name11:28
vidd_laptopis it there?11:28
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Clarrisa_2008vidd_laptop, when I click on the properties of admin group, there is myself, which I put a check mark in, and there is root, but there is also two blank lines with a check box as if there are two more empty users on my system what do I do about that?11:29
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vidd_laptopClarrisa_2008, did you USED TO HAVE two other users that have since been deleted?11:30
Clarrisa_2008vidd_laptop,Ii found out who one of the users is, but there is another user called fmaster.  What is that?11:30
vidd_laptopno idea11:30
TindoraI'm new to linux, how do I install a VNC server so my friend can help me? :)11:30
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Clarrisa_2008vidd_laptop, I know who the one user is so I fixed that one, but I still do not know who fmaster is.11:31
Jester45he left work i will be back in about 30 mins11:31
Jester45o11:31
Jester45he told you11:31
Clarrisa_2008ok, well now my admin privledges are fixed....11:33
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Clarrisa_2008vidd_laptop, thanks! that worked11:34
Clarrisa_2008I have another challenge though...11:34
sigmamu188shoot11:35
Clarrisa_2008when I click on the icon on my desktop that says ubuntu-server 6.06.1, I get the error message: "unable to ount ubuntu-server 6.06.1, failed to determin the mount point for /dev/hdd11:35
Jester45anyone know a easy way to sync a local folder to a remote one, i have http and ftp access11:35
sigmamu188Clarrisa_2008: i have no idea how to deal with that11:36
sigmamu188is your hdd mounted?11:36
sigmamu188in fstab?11:36
Jester45Clarrisa_2008: look in /etc/fstab and see if /dev/hdd has a mount point listed and if it does make sure that foler is emplty11:36
Clarrisa_2008jester45.... ok I will try that.... hey I am going nuts running back and forth from my linux box to this windows box.  What is a good Chat software that I can use on my ubuntu box so that I can just work from there????11:38
Clarrisa_2008is Xchat good and easy to install on xubuntu?11:38
sigmamu188xchat11:38
sigmamu188yea11:39
Clarrisa_2008sigmamu188, I went to seerofsouls.com to download one and they have 4 version for ubuntu 2.64, 2.66, 2.68 what one do I use?11:40
sigmamu188Clarrisa_2008: sudo apt-get install xchat11:40
sigmamu188just type that into terminal11:41
Jester45gaim is multi protcall11:41
sigmamu188i use gaim too11:41
Clarrisa_2008sigmamu188, whew thanks that is alot easier!11:41
Jester45gaim can do msn irc icq aim yahoo jabber11:41
Jester45and more11:42
sigmamu188then once it is installed all you have to do is type xchat in the terminal11:42
Clarrisa_2008kewl11:42
sigmamu188and it sould open it11:42
sigmamu188Clarrisa_2008: you can do the same thing to install gaim11:42
sigmamu188sudo apt-get install gaim11:42
Clarrisa_2008sigmamu188, thanks you rock!11:43
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sigmamu188Jester45: i like gaim for everything but irc11:43
Clarrisa_2008sigmamu188, will those two conflict if I have them both installed?11:43
sigmamu188Clarrisa_2008: no11:43
sigmamu188Clarrisa_2008: well they dont for me11:43
Clarrisa_2008ok cooll11:44
sigmamu188Clarrisa_2008:  iam running both as we speak11:44
Clarrisa_2008righ ton11:44
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Clarrisa_2008brb, going to login over on the linux box11:44
blaamannXfce Applications | Quit does not work for me, is that a known bug or is it just my box?11:44
sigmamu188blaamann: i dont know of any bugs11:45
sigmamu188i just use shutdown now -p in terminal11:45
sigmamu188or you could write a script so that you dont have to type all that11:45
blaamannOk, because nothing happens. I kill X the hard way.11:45
blaamannctrl-alt-Bakspace11:46
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TindoraHow do I start tightVNC-server? I'm new to linux (if you wanna explain, it would be nice to know)11:50
sigmamu188!tightVNC-server11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tightvnc-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
Tindora:(11:53
sigmamu188http://www.tightvnc.com/11:53
TindoraWell, that documentation won't help me much since the site makes me wanna puke and I don't understand much in the unix-help-documentation11:55
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sigmamu188Tindora: let me look over it and see if i can figure it out for you11:56
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sigmamu188Tindora: i dont use the software but i might be able to help11:56
Clarrisa_2008ok, I'm back and I forgoto save what someone told me to do on the following:  when I try to click on the desktop icon that's labled "ubuntu-server 6.06.1 i386" I get the erro "unable to mount "ubuntu-server 6.06.1 i386": Failed to determine the  mount point for /dev/hdd11:56
blaamannTindora:  I wild guess would be "vncserver"11:56
TindoraNew 'X' desktop is hakkburk:1211:57
TindoraStarting applications specified in /root/.vnc/xstartup11:57
TindoraLog file is /root/.vnc/hakkburk:12.log11:57
Tindoraroot@hakkburk:/home/tobias#11:57
Clarrisa_2008there must be some sort of file I need to edit, but I can't remember what it is11:57
sigmamu188so you have the software installed right?11:57
Tindorasigmamu188: I think so, I really dunno, new to linux :)11:57
sigmamu188Clarrisa_2008: type: gksudo mousepad /etc/fstab11:58
sigmamu188then see if the mount point hdd is in there?11:58
vidd_laptopClarrisa_2008, its sounds like the icon on your desktop is a shortcut to a hard drive....11:58
vidd_laptopClarrisa_2008, is that right?11:58
Tindorasigmamu188: if you have any other VNCapplication you are familiar with and know how to set up a server for me. It would be nice.11:58
Clarrisa_2008vidd_laptop, yes I think so11:58
sigmamu188try typing sudo apt-get tightvncserver11:59
sigmamu188in terminal11:59
Tindorasigmamu188: I'd wrote that before, I must have installd it then ;)11:59
blaamannput in an "install"11:59
Clarrisa_2008sigmamul88, I have the fstab file in front of me...what am I looking for11:59
sigmamu188ohh yeah11:59
sigmamu188sudo apt-get install tightvncserver11:59
Clarrisa_2008sigmamul88, should I pastebin it for you?11:59
Tindoragot'cha12:00
sigmamu188thanks blaamann12:00
Tindorait's installed12:00
sigmamu188they just type vncserver12:00
sigmamu188go for it12:00
sigmamu188Clarrisa_2008:12:00
sigmamu188Tindora: after you type vncserver it shoud ask for a pw12:01
sigmamu188and make you re enter it12:01
sigmamu188then it should be up an running12:01
sigmamu188atleast the server12:01
Clarrisa_2008sigmamu188, ok this is dumb but I don't have the pastebin url12:01
Clarrisa_2008!pastebin12:01
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:01
Clarrisa_2008ok here goes12:01
vidd_laptopClarrisa_2008, i assume you fixed the sudo thing?12:02
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sigmamu188Clarrisa_2008: you are looking for a line documenting the mound of hdd12:02
sigmamu188Clarrisa_2008: let me know when you have it pasted i totally missed the line you typed earlier12:02
sigmamu188lol12:03
sigmamu188Tindora: any luck?12:03
Clarrisa_2008vidd_laptop, works great, thanks a ton12:03
Clarrisa_2008glad I now have a light-weight GUI on my linux box that..xubuntu is cool...  I have to have a gui that I can use some of the time...12:03
Clarrisa_2008np12:04
Clarrisa_2008my desktop is WAY to big, can't fit anything on it...where do I go to adjust the resolution here???  i've only had the xubuntu install for 20 minutes now12:04
Clarrisa_2008so I'm lost a little again12:04
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Tindorasigmamu188: nope no luck at all12:06
sigmamu188did you type vncserver12:06
Clarrisa_2008sigmamu188:  ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22783/12:08
Clarrisa_2008sigmamu188:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22783/  oops12:08
sigmamu188ok hdd is a cdrom drive12:08
Clarrisa_2008how do I adjust my desktop resolution???12:08
Tindorasigmamu188:  yes I did12:09
Clarrisa_2008I can fit anything on it12:09
blaamannTindora: Try localhost:5800 in your web browser12:09
sigmamu188are you trying to save something to the diks?12:09
sigmamu188disk*12:09
Clarrisa_2008sigmamul88, should I be able to change the icon to be sort of a "my computer" windoze type thing that looks at my hard drive and not hte cdrom12:09
Clarrisa_2008nope12:09
sigmamu188you want to see you hd files is that the problem?12:10
Clarrisa_2008that Icon was on the desktop when I first installed xubuntu12:10
sigmamu188ohhhh12:10
Clarrisa_2008yes... a "my computer icon"12:10
sigmamu188have you rebooted since you install?12:10
TindoraUnable to connect12:10
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Clarrisa_2008I think so, but sure12:10
TindoraFirefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:5800.12:10
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TindoraSRY :(12:10
Clarrisa_2008I could try again and do it12:10
sigmamu188take the cd rom out12:11
sigmamu188then reboot12:11
sigmamu188to make sure you booting off the hd12:11
sigmamu188and not the live cd12:11
Clarrisa_2008the hole line?12:11
Clarrisa_2008whole12:11
sigmamu188there isint a mycomputer icom12:12
sigmamu188icon12:12
Clarrisa_2008oh ok12:12
sigmamu188see the little icon in the top right corner?12:12
Clarrisa_2008so is there no "file manger" type thingy?12:12
sigmamu188err12:12
sigmamu188left cornor12:12
sigmamu188yes there is a file manager12:12
sigmamu188you can type thunar in the terminal12:13
Clarrisa_2008well there is an applications, and a firefox icon on the top left... xchat on the top right and an exit icon12:13
sigmamu188click applications12:13
sigmamu188accessoriest12:13
sigmamu188accessories*12:13
sigmamu188then thunar12:13
Clarrisa_2008my accessories menu doesn't have a thunar12:13
Clarrisa_2008system does though...I think I found it12:14
sigmamu188try opening the terminal window and typing thunar12:14
sigmamu188ok12:14
sigmamu188click on that one12:14
Clarrisa_2008ok, cool, this is good12:14
Clarrisa_2008can I make a shortcut to that on my desktop?12:14
sigmamu188right click on the desktop12:15
Clarrisa_2008k12:15
sigmamu188and chose create launcher12:15
Clarrisa_2008k12:15
sigmamu188gimme one sec12:15
sigmamu188let me make sure im going to tell you the right thing12:16
sigmamu188ok12:16
sigmamu188are you at the screen that says name, comment, command?12:16
Clarrisa_2008ok, I got it, I clicked on the command icon and did a search in the list and found thunar.... new name for a file manger at least for me.  it works now12:17
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sigmamu188Clarrisa_2008:12:18
Clarrisa_2008ok, I got it, I clicked on the command icon and did a search in the list and found thunar.... new name for a file manger at least for me.  it works now12:18
sigmamu188sorry accidentally killed xchat12:18
Clarrisa_2008no problem12:18
sigmamu188so its working ?12:18
sigmamu188i actually perfer krusader as my file manager12:19
Clarrisa_2008this is weird though.  I took out the cd that was in my cd drive and now that icon that was on the desktop is gone12:19
sigmamu188it has dual window panes12:19
sigmamu188yea12:19
Clarrisa_2008how do i get krusader12:19
Clarrisa_2008I like dual panes as well12:19
sigmamu188sudo apt-get install krusader12:19
Clarrisa_2008of COURSE12:19
sigmamu188dont feel bad youll  get used to linux12:20
sigmamu188im still learning12:20
Clarrisa_2008is there no way to change my resolution though?  this is very weird12:20
sigmamu188check in applications>settings>display settings12:20
sigmamu188you may have to do it another way but try that first12:20
Clarrisa_2008oh ok cool12:21
Clarrisa_2008that's the ticket12:21
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sigmamu188anyone remember the command for xconfig?12:21
Jester45if that way doesnt work you have to edit your xorg.conf with: gksu mousepad /etc/x11/xorg.conf12:21
sigmamu188thanks Jester45 that was just what i couldnt remember12:21
sigmamu188isint there a way to run it via the gui12:22
sigmamu188like in the origional setup12:22
sigmamu188with the blue screen?12:23
sigmamu188i had to do it that way when i installed my nvidea drivers12:23
TheSheepsigmamu188: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:23
sigmamu188thanks12:23
sigmamu188TheSheep: MY HERO!!!12:24
sigmamu188thats going into the notebook12:24
Clarrisa_2008how do I run the tightvncserver after I've installed it12:25
sigmamu188type vncserver12:25
sigmamu188in terminal12:25
Clarrisa_2008kewl12:26
sigmamu188or rather type tightvncserver12:28
Clarrisa_2008krusader reminds me of wincommander or total commander.  I like it12:31
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sigmamu188good comparison12:31
TheSheeponle the ctrl+left and ctrl+right don't work in it like in WC, which is a great shame12:32
TheSheeponly12:32
sigmamu188what did the ctrl+left do?12:33
sigmamu188move files?12:33

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