[12:30] <Ramla> vlc and mplayer played my dvd's without xine1-ffmpeg but totem didn't.
[12:31] <Pumpernickel> VLC and mplayer provide their own codecs.  Totem doesn't.
[12:34] <Jester45> totem is a front end of xine VLC and mplayer are standalone
[12:37] <JJNova> mplayer > *
[12:38] <Pumpernickel> Totem isn't a front end for xine.  It uses xinelib or gstreamer.
[12:39] <JJNova> Totem woiuld never work properly for me.
[12:46] <Ramla> mplayer sucks for playing dvd's. You might be able to watch a single movie with it, but there's no way you can use it to watch a tv series without menus since the dvd tracks are usually in no order
[12:47] <Ramla> I don't know about others but with vlc sound doesn't work properly on dvd playback, so I'm with totem. Mplayer for everything else though.
[12:47] <Ramla> *doesn't work properly for me
[12:47] <JJNova> Yeah, I don't watch DVD's on my PC, so that would explain not experiencing a problem with Mplayer
[12:50] <Ramla> Apparently there's experimental dvd menu support for mplayer though. Anybody tried it?
[12:52] <Gerro> use totem it works I think
[12:52] <Gerro> mplayer is buggy as heck unless you have all the libraries setup correctly
[12:53] <Gerro> think ubuntu does that on purpose, everyone seems to be all about the totem
[12:53] <JJNova> Of course, I don't watch DVD's on my PC, so that might be why I have nothing to like form Totme
[12:53] <JJNova> Totem
[12:59] <JJNova> tots
[01:00] <Gerro> eep
[01:29] <silent_> I installed xubuntu, but I'm installing gnome D:>
[01:30] <JJNova> y ?
[01:30] <JJNova> I thought you were doing a debian install ?
[01:31] <silent_> I was, but it kept freezing on a particular part due to a scratched cd
[01:31] <silent_> and I didn't want to burn another cd
[01:31] <JJNova> heh
[01:32] <silent_> but I like what I see so far
[01:32] <silent_> xfce seems a little bare though
[01:32] <JJNova> are you using sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[01:32] <silent_> nope, is that a bad thing?
[01:32] <JJNova> Well, I guess not.
[01:32] <silent_> just went through synaptic
[01:32] <JJNova> Doing it the way mentioned would of installed all of the applications and stuff that comes with ubuntu
[01:33] <silent_> I think I'm getting the apps anyway
[01:33] <silent_> even though I didnt want them
[01:33] <JJNova> heh
[01:33] <silent_> its downloading games etc
[01:33] <silent_> >_<
[01:33] <JJNova> Ubuntu has a lot of apps that are packaged together
[01:33] <silent_> yea
[01:33] <JJNova> Like, I would want to delete all but maybe 2 games, but they were bundled together so I couldn't.
[01:33] <silent_> will my interface be preserved when I switch?
[01:34] <JJNova> Yeah, you'll be able to switch back to XFCE at anytime and it will remain as you left it
[01:49] <JJNova> Catoptromancy_:  Did you happen to find anything else regarding Wine and XFCE ?
[01:49] <Catoptromancy_> nope
[01:50] <Catoptromancy_> seems wine overwrites xfce cfg
[01:50] <Catoptromancy_> probably better just forgetting about it
[01:50] <JJNova> heh. But it's all cluttering my Applications menu
[01:50] <Catoptromancy_> ive had my "other" menu for over a week
[01:50] <Catoptromancy_> i know i hate it
[01:50] <Catoptromancy_> but i ignore it heh
[02:01] <JJNova> That's it. I'm installing Ubuntu
[02:02] <JJNova> Then I will remove XFCE and all related folders.
[02:02] <JJNova> That shuold hopefully allow me to reinstall it with a fresh system
[02:07] <silent_> mmm, gnome is so slick
[02:10] <TheSheep> silent_: yes, it improved a lot in the recent couple of years
[02:13] <JJNova> It's too bad Wine messes things up like that. I much like XFCE
[02:15] <JJNova> What is the button sequence to kill a window ?
[02:15] <TheSheep> JJNova: wine is not a part of xfce...
[02:15] <TheSheep> JJNova: I think that xkill is by default mapped to alt+ctrl+esc
[02:15] <JJNova> I understand that, but Wine is something that I do use, and it affects XFCE negatively
[02:16] <JJNova> thank you
[02:17] <silent_> its not ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:17] <silent_> that's for sure
[02:17] <JJNova> heh
[02:17] <TheSheep> silent_: no, that's the default for zapping the x server
[02:18] <silent_> :)
[02:18] <silent_> I guess I should install fluxbox now
[02:18] <silent_> ...maybe
[02:20] <JJNova> Ratpoison
[02:22] <silent_> ratpoison?
[02:27] <TheSheep> ratpoison is good if you hate rodents
[02:29] <TheSheep> goys, do you know of any font-preview program that can display ttf fonts not installed in the system?
[02:29] <TheSheep> guys
[02:30] <Pumpernickel> There's gfontview, I guess.
[02:30] <Pumpernickel> !info gfontview
[02:30] <ubotu> gfontview: font viewer for Type 1 and TrueType fonts. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.5.0-6 (feisty), package size 76 kB, installed size 276 kB
[02:32] <TheSheep> Pumpernickel: thank you
[02:32] <Pumpernickel> np
[02:33] <TheSheep> argh, gnome orbit, gnome corba XD
[02:35] <JJNova> Wow, you miss a lot of updates when you aren't using gnome.
[02:35] <Jester45> ??
[02:35] <Jester45> JJNova: you confuse me once again
[02:35] <JJNova> It's a gift
[02:36] <JJNova> I just switched back to Ubuntu
[02:36] <Jester45> o
[02:36] <Jester45> gnome as more programs
[02:36] <JJNova> Something that's not wise though.... uninstalling all aspects of xfce....while running XFCE
[02:39] <michael> hello
[02:40] <michael1384> I have a problem
[02:41] <TheSheep> !ask | michael1384
[02:41] <ubotu> michael1384: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:49] <michael1384> i am trying to install xubuntu on an old pc but it says "can't access tty; job control turned off"
[02:53] <TheSheep> michael1384: that's what it displays when it fails to mount the root filesystem at startup
[02:54] <michael1384> ok
[02:55] <michael1384> what should I do?
[02:55] <TheSheep> michael1384: you see this when booting the livecd?
[02:57] <michael1384> yes
[02:57] <TheSheep> michael1384: at the boot menu, you can see an aption to check the cd integrity -- do it
[02:58] <michael1384> ok
[02:58] <TheSheep> michael1384: there are chances that either the download was corrupted, the cd is faulty or the burn process failed somehow
[02:59] <TheSheep> michael1384: if the test fails, test the checksum of the iso file you downloaded
[02:59] <vidd_laptop> michael1384, what did you download?
[02:59] <TheSheep> michael1384: by the way, if the coputer has less than 192MB ram, it's better to use the alternate cd, not the live cd
[03:00] <vidd_laptop> or the mini iso
[03:00] <michael1384> it has 192 mb of ram
[03:14] <Puma> Hi
[03:14] <Jester45> hi
[03:14] <michael1384> says errors found in one file
[03:15] <Puma> jester 45 can you help me with a problem, is about the resolution in xubuntu
[03:15] <JJNova> Puma, are you trying to go up to 1280*1024 ?
[03:15] <Jester45> maybe if the resolution that you want is not listed try editing
[03:16] <Jester45> /etc/X11/xorg.conf with the command: sudo mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:16] <Puma> no,really no
[03:17] <Puma> I want to put it in 32 bits
[03:17] <Puma> I expalin you:
[03:17] <Jester45> thats also in the xorg.conf
[03:17] <TheSheep> michael1384: check the iso then
[03:17] <TheSheep> !md5 | michael1384
[03:17] <ubotu> michael1384: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[03:17] <michael1384> how?
[03:17] <TheSheep> michael1384: here is a howto
[03:18] <Puma> in 16 an 24 bits mode appear a vertical lines
[03:18] <TheSheep> michael1384: if the iso is corrupted -- redownload. if it's ok -- just burn it on a different cd, preferably with the slowest speed you can.
[03:18] <michael1384> ok
[03:18] <michael1384> thanks
[03:19] <TheSheep> michael1384: it's also possible that the cd drive in your old computer is not so good anymore
[03:19] <Puma> I'm here again
[03:20] <Puma> in winxp in may monitor appear vertical lines in 16 or 24 bits mode (rsolution)
[03:21] <Puma> but no in 32 bitsd
[03:21] <Puma> in Xubuntu appear vertical lines too in 16 or 24 bits mode
[03:22] <Puma> so I can change the resolution to 32 bits mode
[03:26] <Puma> Hii
[03:26] <Puma> hi,hi
[03:26] <Puma> someone to help me please
[03:26] <sigmamu188> Puma: with what?
[03:27] <Jester45> puma try #ubuntu this doesnt seem to be xfce spacfic
[03:27] <Puma> ok
[03:27] <TheSheep> Puma: edit as root the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and change the line "DefaultDepth 24" to "DefaultDepth 32"
[03:27] <Puma> I will enter in Ubuntu
[03:28] <Puma> only that
[03:28] <crdlb> eh?
[03:28] <Puma> that is al I want to do
[03:28] <sigmamu188> let me see what i can do
[03:28] <crdlb> 32 is wrong
[03:28] <Puma> ohh, I'm fatal
[03:28] <crdlb> it doesn't actually exist
[03:28] <Puma> I'm no speak english too well
[03:29] <Puma> pardon me
[03:29] <michael1384> little problem with that solution
[03:29] <michael1384> i deleted the iso
[03:29] <michael1384> i'm going to download it again tomorrow
[03:29] <michael1384> goodnight
[03:29] <sigmamu188> Puma: whats video card are you using?
[03:29] <TheSheep> michael1384: well, then you have no choice :)
[03:29] <michael1384> thanks for the help
[03:30] <TheSheep> michael1384: you might want to test the cd in a different drive though -- and replace that drive if it works fine in a differento ne
[03:30] <Puma> signamu: my card video is a ATI Mobility Radeon M6 LY (agp)
[03:30] <michael1384> thanks
[03:30] <michael1384> bye
[03:30] <TheSheep> crdlb: it does exist for some cards
[03:30] <crdlb> 30 exists, I've never heard of 32
[03:30] <TheSheep> crdlb: not that monitors can handle that :)
[03:30] <crdlb> ie 10bit color
[03:32] <Puma> I specify
[03:32] <Puma> don hate me to mention windows
[03:32] <Puma> don't hate me to mention windows
[03:33] <TheSheep> Puma: rest assured, we don't hate you
[03:33] <Puma> in winxp I have the same problem in 16 and 245 bits mode
[03:33] <Puma> in winxp I have the same problem in 16 and 24 bits mode
[03:33] <Puma> but in 32 bits I don't have problems
[03:34] <sigmamu188> Puma:  have you install the ATI binary X.org driver?
[03:34] <crdlb> you can't on an m6
[03:34] <crdlb> that's a radeon 7000
[03:34] <crdlb> it never supported that card
[03:34] <Puma> I don't have installed the driver of ATI becouse it looks worst
[03:34] <sigmamu188> hmm
[03:35] <Puma> I 've proved  whit various drivers but Vesa work better
[03:35] <TheSheep> Puma: have you tried changing that DefaultDepth?
[03:35] <crdlb> Puma, eh?
[03:35] <Puma> really no
[03:35] <crdlb> you're not even using "ati"?
[03:35] <crdlb> that's not ati's driver
[03:35] <crdlb> ati's driver is fglrx
[03:36] <sigmamu188> xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:36] <crdlb> but it doesn't support your card
[03:36] <crdlb> so don't bother
[03:37] <Puma> you are right, fglrx works but in 24 bits mode too so I see the same vertical lines
[03:37] <sigmamu188> it might be you refresh rate set wrong
[03:37] <crdlb> and it works fine with vesa?
[03:37] <sigmamu188> in the xorg.conf
[03:39] <Puma> I've configured many times and vesa works like fglrx
[03:39] <Puma> maybe my card is damaged
[03:39] <Puma> my videom card
[03:40] <Puma> because in win xp I get the same problem in 16 and 24 bits mode
[03:41] <Puma> but if i change to 32 bits mode the screen looks well,normal
[03:41] <sigmamu188> how old is you moniter?
[03:41] <Puma> in winxp I've not installed the ati's driver
[03:42] <Puma> well the pc is a laptop
[03:42] <sigmamu188> ok
[03:42] <Puma> I think it was bought in 2002 year
[03:43] <Puma> win xp use vga.dll, I've seem this in dxdiag
[03:44] <Puma> so I tried with vga in xubuntu even in mandriva so never load
[03:45] <Puma> appear a black screen and I can't do anything ao I have to reboot
[03:45] <JJNova> Some hardware does not support Linux, and this is predominately true in Notebook/Laptop cases
[03:45] <sigmamu188> http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.25.18.html
[03:45] <sigmamu188> not sure if that will help
[03:46] <Puma> ok
[03:46] <JJNova> Oh, sorry, just caught the tail end, didn't realize there was troubleshooting going on already
[03:47] <Puma> so I can't change the resolution to 32 bits mode
[03:47] <Puma> so can't I  change the resolution to 32 bits mode
[03:48] <sigmamu188> !beta
[03:48] <Puma> the beta version of xubuntu
[03:48] <sigmamu188> are you running the latest disto of xubuntu??
[03:48] <sigmamu188> feisty
[03:48] <sigmamu188> i think
[03:48] <sigmamu188> !feisty
[03:48] <JJNova> 7.04
[03:49] <Puma> well I've downloaded two months ago
[03:49] <Puma> dapper drake LTS
[03:49] <JJNova> So then you have the Beta of Xubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[03:49] <JJNova> oh wow
[03:49] <sigmamu188> the did the final release of feisty
[03:50] <crdlb> sigmamu188, no version of fglrx supports that card
[03:50] <sigmamu188> you should upgrade
[03:50] <sigmamu188> ahh
[03:50] <sigmamu188> i know when i upgraaded from the beta to the final all of my nvidia issues were fixed
[03:50] <ubotu> If you are running a Herd/Beta version of Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) and have been keeping it up to date, you are already running the final release version of Feisty. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console. If you last updated few days ago, you are on the final version.
[03:51] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Ubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.ubuntu.com/download - For BitTorrent downloads, see !Torrents
[03:51] <Puma> its good
[03:52] <Puma> if has gnome desktop my laptop not loaded
[03:52] <Puma> if has gnome desktop my laptop not load
[03:52] <Puma> or I can choose the desktop
[03:53] <Puma> or can I choose the desktop
[03:53] <Puma> please, pardon my poor english, reaaly I speak spanish
[03:53] <sigmamu188> its ok
[03:53] <sigmamu188> you laptop wont gnome?
[03:55] <Puma> when I tried to load a gnome desktop i have to rebbot it
[03:56] <Puma> appear a black screen and I can't do anything
[03:56] <Puma> so I have to rebbot
[03:56] <Puma> an i have another method , with another desktop
[03:57] <sigmamu188> Puma: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246746
[03:57] <Puma> but kde load
[03:57] <sigmamu188> see if that helps your issue
[03:57] <Puma> ok
[03:57] <sigmamu188> also when you installed xubuntu did you run media check one the live cd first?
[03:58] <sigmamu188> it may have just been a bad install to begin with
[03:58] <Puma> I think the memory of my video card is 16 MB due to this no load gnome
[03:58] <Puma> i don't know
[03:58] <sigmamu188> that happened on my first install
[03:59] <sigmamu188> i would say start with a clean install of linux and be sure to check the disk for errors first
[04:00] <sigmamu188> on the latest install cd's there should be an option menu with a media check option you can scroll down to
[04:00] <sigmamu188> you want to return a checksum (0)
[04:01] <sigmamu188> but then again like crdlb said ther may be no hope
[04:01] <sigmamu188> you might just need a new card
[04:04] <Puma> I think that but I just want to use the video card  because in this moment I can't buy a new
[04:04] <Puma> videom card
[04:04] <Puma> what a shame
[04:06] <Puma> thank you very much
[04:07] <Puma> nayway
[04:07] <Puma> anyway
[04:07] <Puma> ahh
[04:07] <sigmamu188> sorry couldnt help
[04:07] <Puma> DON'T WORRY
[04:08] <Puma> ahh but I have another problem
[04:08] <sigmamu188> whats that?
[04:09] <Puma> in another distribution (ichthux)
[04:09] <Puma> I can't enter to login manager
[04:09] <Puma> kde desktop
[04:09] <Puma> in live cd in help I've seem  that is something about kdm
[04:09] <Puma> also
[04:10] <Puma> I can't log in at the beggining
[04:10] <Puma> I can only enter in safe mode typing STARTX
[04:11] <sigmamu188> hm
[04:11] <sigmamu188> thats over my head
[04:11] <sigmamu188> sorry
[04:11] <sigmamu188> but keep asking
[04:11] <sigmamu188> someone here will know
[04:11] <sigmamu188> i g2g
[04:12] <Puma> ok
[04:12] <Puma> thank you
[04:16] <Puma> I have to go
[04:17] <Puma> THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[04:17] <Puma> GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE
[04:52] <Rynux91> I should have this place setup to load as soon as I load Gaim...
[04:52] <Rynux91> ...got a question...
[04:52] <Rynux91> ...is the cli soupossed to be functional when using the live CD?
[04:53] <JJNova> Yes
[04:53] <Rynux91> hmm
[04:53] <Rynux91> then I have a bad live CD
[04:54] <JJNova> Although I just randomnly chose Yes as my ansswer
[04:54] <Rynux91> it crashes the same way Xubuntu does when I try to load the cli...
[04:54] <JJNova> I would assume though, pressing Control+ALT+F2 would bring up a CLI interface
[04:54] <Rynux91> in my case...it crashes the GUI...
[04:54] <Rynux91> X desktop I think...or is it X server...
[04:54] <Rynux91> ah whatever...
[04:55] <Rynux91> anyway...I'm assuming that since the CLI crashes on both the installed Xubuntu and the Live CD that ethier the disk is bad or I have some sort of hardware conflict
[04:56] <Rynux91> well..anyway...brb...going to switch back over...
[05:01] <Rynux91> back again..
[05:24] <Rynux91> so...
[05:25] <Rynux91> anyone here who is active in which to assistance or give advice to a new user?
[05:25] <JJNova> Is it still the CLI problem ?
[05:26] <Rynux91> yeah
[05:27] <Rynux91> I'm now wondering if it's a hardware conflict(doubt it) or a bad CD
[05:31] <JJNova> I can't help you out there man.
[05:31] <Rynux91> ok
[05:31] <JJNova> CTRL+ALT+F2 didn't do anything ?
[05:33] <JJNova> CTRL+ALT+F2 didn't do anything ?
[05:33] <Rynux91> whenever I try to load the CLI, it crashes X Desktop(or X server(?))
[05:33] <JJNova> X is the graphical aspect though.
[05:33] <JJNova> X is the windows manager
[05:33] <Rynux91> it loads the CLI...which then crashes the GUI...then it restarts the GUI at the loggon screen
[05:34] <Rynux91> I wish I knew why...
[05:36] <JJNova> Sorry man. I wish I could help you out.
[05:36] <Rynux91> well...no worries..
[05:37] <Rynux91> I'll problobly get it fixed eventually ;)
[05:57] <mindframe> is there a way for xubuntu to notify when synaptic has upgrades available?
[05:57] <JJNova> Not that I know of. It's one of the downsides of Xubuntu
[05:58] <JJNova> but you can install another Environment like Ubuntu and use it just for that purpose
[05:58] <mindframe> heh no thx
[05:58] <mindframe> ill go with cron-apt
[06:02] <Myrtti> well.
[06:02] <Myrtti> Isn't synaptic part of xubuntu?
[06:03] <JJNova> yes
[06:03] <Myrtti> I remember synaptic having an option of notifying
[06:03] <Myrtti> and in ubuntu update-manager launches on starting gnome
[06:03] <JJNova> Well I'm in Ubuntu right now, so I can't check
[06:04] <Myrtti> that's what I'm talking about, Ubuntu
[06:04] <Myrtti> I wouldn't be suprised if adding update-manager to launch in xubuntu start and/or synaptic set to notify would do the trick
[06:05] <jgamio> In software sources -> Update -> check for update
[06:06] <jgamio> you can select only notify
[06:13] <silent_> crdlb, I got my drivers working
[06:14] <silent_> that library import deal was irritating, but it worked
[06:14] <crdlb> cool
[06:14] <crdlb> so you had to copy libwfb.so from somewhere?
[06:15] <silent_> yea
[06:15] <silent_> I had to extract the files inthe nvidia run, then copy a missing library to my system files
[06:16] <silent_> and poof
[06:20] <Plasmid47> Does anyone know how to disable virtual consoles to free up RAM?
[06:20] <crdlb> you mean like workspaces?
[06:20] <crdlb> they don't use ram
[06:21] <Myrtti> or tty's?
[06:22] <Myrtti> I doubt they use any ram if unused
[06:22] <Pumpernickel> A bit, but only to mark their existence.
[06:23] <Plasmid47> TTY's and workspaces
[06:23] <Plasmid47> I'm setting up computer for my parents
[06:23] <Plasmid47> It's an old PII, so it needs all the memory I can get
[06:24] <Plasmid47> plus, they're never ever going to use anything other than the main desktop
[06:24] <Pumpernickel> You might save a few bytes by disabling them.
[06:24] <Plasmid47> I was following some of the tips here: http://www.chinwong.com/index.php/site/article/ubuntu_speed_up_tips/
[06:24] <Plasmid47> but I think that's written for Dapper, so a lot of it is out of date
[06:27] <Plasmid47> so...suggestions?
[06:48] <cellofellow> hello people
[06:48] <kalikiana> hi cellofellow :)
[06:48] <cellofellow> :-D
[06:50] <cellofellow> anything happening?
[06:52] <kalikiana> Well, I'm pretty busy with finishing my new website. :P
[06:53] <kalikiana> ^^ Lots of php, some css fixes and of course *content*.
[06:54] <cellofellow> I find content the hard part too. :P
[06:57] <kalikiana> I'm looking forward to relaxing and doing promotion next month :D
[07:09] <BFTD> hi all
[07:10] <cellofellow> hey there
[07:19] <kalikiana> hey mr. crowe :D
[07:54] <silent_> man... linux is easy.. it just takes TIME
[07:54] <silent_> -_-"
[07:56] <kalikiana> silent_, What is that supposed to mean?
[08:18] <silent_> linux takes time
[08:59] <silent_2> testing
[08:59] <silent_> nice
[09:50] <insmod> if i have to click always ontop one more time i am going to loose it
[09:50] <insmod> anyone?
[09:54] <insmod> anyone?
[10:11] <jon_> can anyone tell me how to run pidgin in xubuntu? It works fine in Kubuntu but gives me ssl errors when in x
[10:14] <jon_> anyone?
[10:21] <jon_> pls
[10:31] <sigmamu188> rockey horror was awsome!
[10:44] <jon_>  can anyone tell me how to run pidgin in xubuntu? It works fine in Kubuntu but gives me ssl errors when in x
[11:12] <leobloom> hallo!
[12:17] <tripppy> would a P3600 with 128ram run xubuntu?
[12:17] <tripppy> would a P3, 600mhz with 128ram run xubuntu?
[12:19] <hyper_ch> !restricted
[12:19] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:19] <hyper_ch> !nvidia
[12:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:40] <grazie> tripppy: yes
[01:35] <msid> is there any link online with applications xubuntu uses as preferred ?
[01:45] <TheSheep> msid: you can look at the dependencies of the xubuntu-desktop package at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:45] <TheSheep> msid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/metapackages/xubuntu-desktop
[02:16] <jburd> Has anybody got vino working with Xubuntu?/
[02:17] <timmyw29> g'day all
[02:18] <timmyw29> is anyone available to help me install my ati drivers and/or get some better resolution options?
[03:37] <South> hi, what packages should I download to get mp3 playback on xubuntu please?
[03:38] <Merchelo> !mp3
[03:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:01] <blizz> hey there
[04:02] <blizz> any idea how i could bridge a managed mode wlan interface together with a normal ethernet interface so that the hosts on the second interface can access the internet over the wireless connection?
[04:18] <W8TAH> good morning all -- i have 2 different versions of xubuntu -- dapper on one machine and feisty on 2 different boxes.  on the dapper box, if i right click on the desktop, i have a terminal icon in the right click menu (along with a lot of other stuff)
[04:18] <W8TAH> on the fieisty box -- its not there
[04:18] <W8TAH> how can i get it to be there?
[04:18] <loswillios> Hello
[04:19] <W8TAH> hello
[04:19] <loswillios> can somebody help me configuring thunderbird?
[04:19] <W8TAH> i can try although i dont use it
[04:19] <loswillios> I want it to open firefox when I click on a link in an email
[04:19] <W8TAH> hummmmmm
[04:19] <loswillios> and to open a pdf. currently it does nothing
[04:20] <W8TAH> that im afraid i cant help with --  i use gmail
[04:20] <loswillios> aha
[04:20] <W8TAH> you might try the #mozilla channel - they may be able to help
[04:21] <loswillios> thx
[04:21] <W8TAH> no problem --  sorry i cant help you more
[04:22] <loswillios> W8TAH: regarding your problem. i think you may have to edit some config-files from xfce
[04:23] <W8TAH> loswillios, i would tend to agree -- i just dont know which ones
[04:25] <loswillios> maybe you should try in #xfce
[04:25] <W8TAH> i did they made nasty comments about xubuntu and basically told me to get lost
[04:25] <loswillios> uh
[04:26] <W8TAH> :)
[04:26] <loswillios> flame wars suck hard
[04:26] <W8TAH> ya they sure do
[04:26] <W8TAH> and very off putting to newbies -- which is why i try to help as much as i can in the chans im part of
[04:30] <grazie> loswillios: for you pdf doc, right click on it in thunar and select "open with ...." and then select your pdf viewer app
[04:31] <loswillios> grazie: it opens fine in thunar, but not in thunderbird
[04:32] <grazie> loswillios: you want to open a pdf doc from a link in thunderbird?
[04:32] <loswillios> from an attachement
[04:33] <loswillios> it's attached to the email and when i click on it, I can only save it to disk
[04:34] <grazie> loswillios: I don't know thunderbird, but I would think it was configurable. google a bit
[04:37] <loswillios> this is nuts
[04:44] <loswillios> damnit
[05:03] <TehRealNexGe1> hi do you have to double click .desktop files to add its contents onto the menu?
[05:08] <TehRealNexGe1> and how do you remove them. the menu editor only doesnt show any of these
[05:12] <grazie> TehRealNexGe1: if a .desktop file is in /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications it will be part of the system menu
[05:14] <grazie> TehRealNexGe1: to add to the menu, create a .desktop file ... to delete from the menu, delete (or better rename) the .desktop file
[05:23] <TehRealNexGe1> ok thanx
[05:29] <TehRealNexGe1> ok i juggled the menu entries around a bit and changed one of the .dektop file's catagory section from just "games" (which came under "ther in the menu" to "application;games;" will this move the entry? when will it update?
[05:30] <TehRealNexGe1> lol typo what i meant to say was "Which came under "Other" in the menu"
[05:34] <TehRealNexGe1> ok its updatd itself now no need to anser my question :)
[05:35] <CHORUSS> hello
[05:35] <TehRealNexGe1> hi
[05:35] <CHORUSS> I need some help or advice...
[05:35] <W8TAH> grazie, will that process (detailed above) change the right click menu -- or the regular menu?
[05:35] <TehRealNexGe1> regular menu
[05:36] <CHORUSS> when I run xubuntu LiveCD on my 800x600 resolution laptop, I cant see desktop panels
[05:36] <loswillios> finally
[05:36] <W8TAH> TehRealNexGe1, ok -- how can i modify my right click menu on fieisty
[05:37] <TehRealNexGe1> no idea :-[
[05:37] <W8TAH> bummer
[05:37] <W8TAH> ok - thanks
[05:37] <TehRealNexGe1> CHORUSS: you mean workspaces
[05:37] <TehRealNexGe1> ?
[05:38] <CHORUSS> i seems it is some kind of bug, I want know if there is it on all 800x600 computers or only my
[05:38] <CHORUSS> panel with systray etc.
[05:39] <CHORUSS> I see only icons on the desktop
[05:39] <TehRealNexGe1> ok
[05:39] <TehRealNexGe1> type "xfce4-panel"
[05:40] <TehRealNexGe1> at your terminal
[05:40] <CHORUSS> I try it
[05:40] <TehRealNexGe1> can you get to your terminal
[05:40] <CHORUSS> but why arent they here already? on my 1024x768 monitor it is ok
[05:41] <TehRealNexGe1> erm did you try it?
[05:42] <CHORUSS> mom, I am running up my laptop with LiveCD
[05:42] <CHORUSS> it is quite old laptop
[05:44] <TehRealNexGe1> you didnt answer my question
[05:44] <CHORUSS> no yet
[05:44] <CHORUSS> mom please... comp. is starting
[05:45] <TehRealNexGe1> btw it could be this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-panel/+bug/53897
[05:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 53897 in xfce4-panel "Disappearing panels Xubuntu dapper" [Undecided,Needs info] 
[05:47] <CHORUSS> yee, I saw it... but in my case panels arent visible after booting
[05:48] <TehRealNexGe1> er what, you saw it after you typed the terminal command but not after reboot?
[05:48] <CHORUSS> after reboot..
[05:48] <CHORUSS> again:
[05:49] <CHORUSS> I start my LiveCD... system boots up, xfce desktop appears
[05:50] <CHORUSS> there should be two panels - on the top and bottom + icons on the desktop
[05:50] <CHORUSS> I can see only icons, both panels are missing
[05:51] <CHORUSS> I can switch to text mode console screen
[05:51] <TehRealNexGe1> -_- have you tried typing "xfce4-panel" yet? you still havnt told me
[05:52] <CHORUSS> I try it now, pc is finally booted up
[05:53] <CHORUSS> ok
[05:53] <CHORUSS> panels are here, how can I set it to run automatically after boot, please?
[05:54] <TehRealNexGe1> i dont know myself exctly
[05:54] <TehRealNexGe1> perhaps a script
[05:54] <CHORUSS> so... there is one thing I like to know...
[05:55] <CHORUSS> why on one computer it starts automatically and on onother I have to run it manually? where is the bug?
[05:56] <TehRealNexGe1> nothing has to run automatically, its because there is a bug specific to the combination of hardware for your laptop
[05:57] <CHORUSS> ahh... can I correct it?
[05:57] <TehRealNexGe1> i wouldnt know, you should try ubuntuforums.org, there are much more knowledgable people there
[05:58] <CHORUSS> ok, thank you a lot
[05:58] <TehRealNexGe1> thanx
[05:58] <CHORUSS> thanx : )
[05:58] <Pumpernickel> You can just save a session with them running, and they'll be there from then on.
[06:36] <abuzuke> i have just installed xubuntu and i have 3Com ethernet device but i cannot reach it so i cannot use my internet connection, what can i do?
[06:38] <abuzuke> can you help me?
[06:39] <Myrtti> you've tried at #ubuntu already? hardware problems aren't xubuntu spesific and you might get help there better
[06:39] <abuzuke> Myrtti, yes i have just asked
[07:41] <admin0> anyone here have issues with Cedega?
[07:42] <Pumpernickel> !anyone
[07:42] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:43] <Catoptromancy_> heh
[07:44] <admin0> ok so for some reason, I cannot have XMMS running with Cedega so as to listen to my own music while playing a game.
[07:44] <admin0> It is not necessarily needed, but it would be a nice luxury
[07:44] <admin0> I spent time trying different sound daemons for each program, but nothing seems to work
[07:45] <Pumpernickel> You'd have to use the alsa-oss wrapper for that to work.
[07:45] <admin0> after installing the wrapper do I need to do configuration?
[07:47] <admin0> thank you very much pumpernickel! you solved my problem.
[07:48] <admin0> next question, what exactly does alsa-oss do?
[07:48] <Pumpernickel> OSS is the old sound system for Linux; it can only handle one application using the sound device at a time (without a sound server).
[07:49] <Pumpernickel> Alsa has a mixer, and alsa-oss acts as a wrapper for OSS only applications, sending their output through that mixer.
[07:50] <admin0> so you are using alsa as a frontend for oss?
[07:50] <admin0> or does it pipe info that was made for oss through alsa?
[07:50] <Pumpernickel> The second one.
[07:50] <admin0> cool thank you very much
[07:50] <Pumpernickel> anytime
[08:18] <kirke> hello I want to Install with "./configure" but it gives me the following error :
[08:18] <kirke> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[08:44] <tic1> could someone help me resize a partition?  i have a bunch of gb unallocated but i can't seem to enlarge my home partition to include this free space.
[08:46] <tic1> i have rebooted into the live cd and i am using gparted.
[08:48] <Jester45> tic1: if you try to resize you might destroy your home partition
[08:48] <Jester45> just as a warning
[08:49] <tic1> wouldn't it just give it more free space.  i don't need to change anything on the partition i just want to make it bigger.
[08:49] <Jester45> it still might destroy it
[08:50] <tic1> but is their a way to do it?
[08:50] <Jester45> yea i dont know how
[08:50] <Jester45> !partitioning
[08:50] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[08:50] <Jester45> no help
[08:51] <tic1> i am running gparted on a livecd so that i can unmount my home partition but it will only allow me to make it smaller, not bigger.  it seems to not recognize the unallocated space.
[08:53] <Pumpernickel> Is the unallocated space sequential to the partition you're resizing?
[08:53] <Clarrisa_2008> hello
[08:54] <tic1> what do you mean by sequential?  in gparted it is right beside it on the left... but i think that the answer your looking for is a little more indepth than that!  =-)
[08:54] <Clarrisa_2008> is the a way I can shutoff Xfce and then renable it only then I need it
[08:56] <Pumpernickel> tic1: I meant them being physically beside each other on the disk; you wouldn't be able to resize a partition it if they weren't.
[08:56] <Clarrisa_2008> I have a slow box running right now as a ubuntu LAmp server with no GUI and don't want it bogged down with extra stuff.  I was thinking doing sudo aptitude update
[08:56] <Clarrisa_2008> sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop, but would like to able to disable xfce if I don't need it form time to time.  My linux box is old
[08:56] <Pumpernickel> Clarrisa_2008: Yeah, easily enough - remove GDM from the services that get started on boot.
[08:57] <Clarrisa_2008> pumpernickel.... er.. how do I do that exactly
[08:57] <Clarrisa_2008> I assume you mean that I edit a config file, which which one
[08:58] <Clarrisa_2008> and what do I comment out
[08:59] <tic1> Pumpernickel: i believe so... they are both on in /dev/sda.  i have the unallocated, then i have /dev/sda3 which is an ext3 and is flagged for boot, then i have /dev/sda2 which is my swap.
[09:02] <Clarrisa_2008> Pumpernickel, I found the following in a forum " Personally I just rename the gdm startup file to obtain the same end result.. gdm does not start at boot."   but where is the gdm startup file on ubuntu.  I like this method that they are suggesting if you think it will work
[09:04] <Pumpernickel> It's a bit hackish.  A better solution would be to use `sysv-rc-conf`.
[09:04] <Pumpernickel> !info sysv-rc-conf
[09:04] <ubotu> sysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99-5 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB
[09:05] <tic1> Pumpernickel: i think i get it.  it says that their is no free space preceding it.  so even though i have a ton of unallocated space it needs to be "before" it.
[09:05] <tic1> would their be any way to move the unallocated space?
[09:07] <Pumpernickel> You might be able to move something into the unallocated space.
[09:07] <Pumpernickel> Alternatively, you could format it and use LVM.
[09:10] <tic1> i will look into LVM.   thanks for the help.
[09:10] <Pumpernickel> anytime
[09:10] <Clarrisa_2008> pumpernickel, how do I removed gdm from the services that get started at boot?  and then re-add it when I need it?
[09:11] <Pumpernickel> sysv-rc-conf, for all your service editing needs.
[09:21] <Clarrisa_2008> where is a howto from switching between CLI and XFCE GDM?
[09:24] <kalikiana__> Clarrisa_2008, You mean switching to a virtual console?
[09:25] <kalikiana__> Clarrisa_2008, That would be as easy as Ctrl+Alt+one of the F1 to F12 keys.
[09:25] <Jester45> Clarrisa_2008: do you need the gui off ? you chould kill gdm
[09:26] <Jester45> and do what kalikiana__ to get a cli
[09:38] <BFTD> hi
[09:40] <Jester45> hi
[09:43] <Tindora> Hi, I'm new to linux and having some problems with the installation of xubuntu. I wish to install xubuntu in my harddrive but I get some errors, I suspect it is that the installer uses NTFS when I'm taking "guided - entire disc" because I've got windows installed there before.
[09:44] <Tindora> I tried manual, but then there were so many file-systems I didn't know about. Witch one should I choose?
[09:44] <Pumpernickel> Ext3.
[09:45] <Tindora> And there is a swap partition, I guess that one should be there and stay as swap?
[09:45] <Pumpernickel> Keeping it would be the safe choice.
[09:45] <Tindora> What is the swap used as? The user or the system? Should it be larger than 1538 MB witch it is set to now?
[09:46] <Pumpernickel> Both.  It's just swap.
[09:46] <Tindora> Ok. Thank you. I will try :-)
[09:46] <Pumpernickel> It gets used as necessary when your main memory isn't enough.
[09:47] <Tindora> "No root file system defined" Where do I define it? :-)
[09:48] <Jester45> how do you check your uid and gid
[09:48] <kalikiana__> Tindora, You need one parition with the mount point '/'.
[09:49] <Tindora> Oh ok. I shouldn't use any 'media/' points if I'm not using more than the swap and the other partition?
[09:50] <Jester45> media/ is your removeable media right
[09:50] <Tindora> Dunno, don't think I have any removable media inserted/installed.
[09:51] <Pumpernickel> It would be, in an installed system.
[09:51] <Tindora> Aha! Ok.
[09:51] <Pumpernickel> If you're creating only one partition for linux, then that should be '/'.
[09:52] <Tindora> Nice. "Partitiions formatting" Ok, I'm excited ;-)
[09:52] <Tindora> Sorry for my bad english btw.
[10:08] <Tindora> Ok, thanks reboot.
[10:25] <Sleepy_Coder> brb. :p
[10:33] <Clarrisa_2008> I was using ubuntu forever, then decided to load the xubuntu desktop to give xfce a try.  I had previously set up my root user's password and have been using it forever, but now that I have xubuntu, I can't login as root, (I know I can use SUDO at a console, but this is for xfce administrationn), and it when I try to do any administrative tasks, it doesn't accept my root password.  Is there another step I need to take in or
[10:33] <Clarrisa_2008> der for xubuntu to let me do admin tasks?
[10:34] <Jester45> gksu admincommand
[10:34] <Jester45> maybe
[10:35] <Clarrisa_2008> where do I type that
[10:35] <Jester45> terminal
[10:35] <Clarrisa_2008> ok i'll try
[10:37] <Pumpernickel> Most likely root login from gdm has just been disabled.
[10:37] <Clarrisa_2008> same thing, it doesn't accept my password.  I don't get it.  my root user has been function fine for a year now, until I just loaded xubuntu
[10:39] <Clarrisa_2008> pumpernickel.  I can't even perform any functions on the XFCE Applications->System menu evne though I supply my root password
[10:50] <Tindora> And I'm back in the house. :-)
[10:51] <Tindora> How do I install rTorrent in xubuntu?
[10:52] <Jester45> sudo aptitude install rtorrent
[10:52] <Jester45> run that in a consule
[10:52] <Tindora> Does that work with pidgin to?
[10:53] <Jester45> no
[10:53] <Jester45> you have to download the .deb manually
[10:53] <Tindora> Sorry I'm new to linux :)
[10:53] <Jester45> you can download it at
[10:53] <Tindora> I couldn't find the .deb in pidgins official site.
[10:53] <Jester45> yea they didnt make one
[10:54] <Tindora> How stupid isn't that?
[10:54] <Jester45> run: wget http://vidd.homelinux.net:8080/downloads/pidgin_2.0.0beta7-1_i386.deb
[10:55] <Tindora> Oh then I'd got it right. I thought there were a full release out. I installed the beta.
[10:55] <Jester45> then run: sudo dpkg -i piggin*.deb
[10:56] <Jester45> o
[10:56] <Jester45> the only deb i got is beta
[10:58] <Clarrisa_2008> oh man this frustrating!!!  I can't do any administrative tasks from from Xfce, because it keeps saying "Enter your password for administrative tasks"  I give it my root password, which WORKS GREAT by the way inside a terminal using SU or SUDO, but it won't accept it in the GUI
[10:59] <Clarrisa_2008> please anyone, what do I do?
[11:01] <vidd_laptop> Clarrisa_2008, are you using the USER password, and not the ROOT password (are they different)?
[11:14] <Tindora> How do I install VNC? Sorry for installing-questions.
[11:14] <Clarrisa_2008> vidd_laptop the user password and the root password ARE different.  I was using the root password, so then I tried my own password, and now instead of the other message I was getting, I now get "failed to run network admin as user root"  I checked my group membership from a terminal and it only says I am a member of www-data and apachegroup.  is there an admin group that I'm supposed to SUDO add myself to?
[11:14] <vidd_laptop> yes... the SUDO group
[11:15] <Gerro> where is my camera album in xubuntu?
[11:15] <vidd_laptop> or is it SUDOer group....
[11:16] <Clarrisa_2008> vidd_laptop, what is the command to do that at the terminal??? I'm sorry to be a pain
[11:16] <vidd_laptop> uhhhhh
[11:17] <Clarrisa_2008> choo
[11:17] <vidd_laptop> sudo users-admin
[11:18] <vidd_laptop> go to "manage groups"
[11:18] <vidd_laptop> find the "admin" group
[11:19] <vidd_laptop> hit "properties"
[11:19] <vidd_laptop> and check your username
[11:19] <vidd_laptop> and let me know if that works for ya!
[11:21] <Tindora> How do I install VNC?
[11:21] <Lectus> have anyone heard of ubuntu lite?
[11:23] <Clarrisa_2008> vidd_laptop, users and groups doesn't let me in as it wants me to have admin rights.  so typing sudo users-admin it says "clarrisa is not in the sudoers file" this incident will be reported.  So I guess I'm getting reported to the department of homeland security, ;-) but that doesn't piss me off as much as not being able to manage anything in this box
[11:23] <vidd_laptop> then switch to SU.....
[11:23] <vidd_laptop> then users-admin
[11:24] <Tindora> What VNC-client is preferred?
[11:24] <vidd_laptop> the prefered client is which ever one works for you.....
[11:25] <vidd_laptop> but you might just as well use the one built right into linux
[11:25] <Pumpernickel> xvnc4viewer is not bad.
[11:25] <vidd_laptop> in the command line type vnc
[11:25] <Pumpernickel> !info xvnc4viewer
[11:25] <ubotu> xvnc4viewer: Virtual network computing client software for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.1.1+xorg1.0.2-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 140 kB, installed size 400 kB
[11:26] <Clarrisa_2008> vidd_laptop, ok, I'm able to go into manage users-groups and I hit properties on the admin group.  Now what?
[11:26] <vidd_laptop> err...nvrmd about default vnc comment
[11:27] <Tindora> I would like to run a VNC server, wierd name if xvnc4viewer works with that ;)
[11:28] <vidd_laptop> Clarrisa_2008, check your name
[11:28] <vidd_laptop> is it there?
[11:29] <Clarrisa_2008> vidd_laptop, when I click on the properties of admin group, there is myself, which I put a check mark in, and there is root, but there is also two blank lines with a check box as if there are two more empty users on my system what do I do about that?
[11:30] <vidd_laptop> Clarrisa_2008, did you USED TO HAVE two other users that have since been deleted?
[11:30] <Clarrisa_2008> vidd_laptop,Ii found out who one of the users is, but there is another user called fmaster.  What is that?
[11:30] <vidd_laptop> no idea
[11:30] <Tindora> I'm new to linux, how do I install a VNC server so my friend can help me? :)
[11:31] <Clarrisa_2008> vidd_laptop, I know who the one user is so I fixed that one, but I still do not know who fmaster is.
[11:31] <Jester45> he left work i will be back in about 30 mins
[11:31] <Jester45> o
[11:31] <Jester45> he told you
[11:33] <Clarrisa_2008> ok, well now my admin privledges are fixed....
[11:34] <Clarrisa_2008> vidd_laptop, thanks! that worked
[11:34] <Clarrisa_2008> I have another challenge though...
[11:35] <sigmamu188> shoot
[11:35] <Clarrisa_2008> when I click on the icon on my desktop that says ubuntu-server 6.06.1, I get the error message: "unable to ount ubuntu-server 6.06.1, failed to determin the mount point for /dev/hdd
[11:35] <Jester45> anyone know a easy way to sync a local folder to a remote one, i have http and ftp access
[11:36] <sigmamu188> Clarrisa_2008: i have no idea how to deal with that
[11:36] <sigmamu188> is your hdd mounted?
[11:36] <sigmamu188> in fstab?
[11:36] <Jester45> Clarrisa_2008: look in /etc/fstab and see if /dev/hdd has a mount point listed and if it does make sure that foler is emplty
[11:38] <Clarrisa_2008> jester45.... ok I will try that.... hey I am going nuts running back and forth from my linux box to this windows box.  What is a good Chat software that I can use on my ubuntu box so that I can just work from there????
[11:38] <Clarrisa_2008> is Xchat good and easy to install on xubuntu?
[11:38] <sigmamu188> xchat
[11:39] <sigmamu188> yea
[11:40] <Clarrisa_2008> sigmamu188, I went to seerofsouls.com to download one and they have 4 version for ubuntu 2.64, 2.66, 2.68 what one do I use?
[11:40] <sigmamu188> Clarrisa_2008: sudo apt-get install xchat
[11:41] <sigmamu188> just type that into terminal
[11:41] <Jester45> gaim is multi protcall
[11:41] <sigmamu188> i use gaim too
[11:41] <Clarrisa_2008> sigmamu188, whew thanks that is alot easier!
[11:41] <Jester45> gaim can do msn irc icq aim yahoo jabber
[11:42] <Jester45> and more
[11:42] <sigmamu188> then once it is installed all you have to do is type xchat in the terminal
[11:42] <Clarrisa_2008> kewl
[11:42] <sigmamu188> and it sould open it
[11:42] <sigmamu188> Clarrisa_2008: you can do the same thing to install gaim
[11:42] <sigmamu188> sudo apt-get install gaim
[11:43] <Clarrisa_2008> sigmamu188, thanks you rock!
[11:43] <sigmamu188> Jester45: i like gaim for everything but irc
[11:43] <Clarrisa_2008> sigmamu188, will those two conflict if I have them both installed?
[11:43] <sigmamu188> Clarrisa_2008: no
[11:43] <sigmamu188> Clarrisa_2008: well they dont for me
[11:44] <Clarrisa_2008> ok cooll
[11:44] <sigmamu188> Clarrisa_2008:  iam running both as we speak
[11:44] <Clarrisa_2008> righ ton
[11:44] <Clarrisa_2008> sp
[11:44] <Clarrisa_2008> brb, going to login over on the linux box
[11:44] <blaamann> Xfce Applications | Quit does not work for me, is that a known bug or is it just my box?
[11:45] <sigmamu188> blaamann: i dont know of any bugs
[11:45] <sigmamu188> i just use shutdown now -p in terminal
[11:45] <sigmamu188> or you could write a script so that you dont have to type all that
[11:45] <blaamann> Ok, because nothing happens. I kill X the hard way.
[11:46] <blaamann> ctrl-alt-Bakspace
[11:50] <Tindora> How do I start tightVNC-server? I'm new to linux (if you wanna explain, it would be nice to know)
[11:51] <sigmamu188> !tightVNC-server
[11:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tightvnc-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <Tindora> :(
[11:53] <sigmamu188> http://www.tightvnc.com/
[11:55] <Tindora> Well, that documentation won't help me much since the site makes me wanna puke and I don't understand much in the unix-help-documentation
[11:56] <sigmamu188> Tindora: let me look over it and see if i can figure it out for you
[11:56] <sigmamu188> Tindora: i dont use the software but i might be able to help
[11:56] <Clarrisa_2008> ok, I'm back and I forgoto save what someone told me to do on the following:  when I try to click on the desktop icon that's labled "ubuntu-server 6.06.1 i386" I get the erro "unable to mount "ubuntu-server 6.06.1 i386": Failed to determine the  mount point for /dev/hdd
[11:56] <blaamann> Tindora:  I wild guess would be "vncserver"
[11:57] <Tindora> New 'X' desktop is hakkburk:12
[11:57] <Tindora> Starting applications specified in /root/.vnc/xstartup
[11:57] <Tindora> Log file is /root/.vnc/hakkburk:12.log
[11:57] <Tindora> root@hakkburk:/home/tobias#
[11:57] <Clarrisa_2008> there must be some sort of file I need to edit, but I can't remember what it is
[11:57] <sigmamu188> so you have the software installed right?
[11:57] <Tindora> sigmamu188: I think so, I really dunno, new to linux :)
[11:58] <sigmamu188> Clarrisa_2008: type: gksudo mousepad /etc/fstab
[11:58] <sigmamu188> then see if the mount point hdd is in there?
[11:58] <vidd_laptop> Clarrisa_2008, its sounds like the icon on your desktop is a shortcut to a hard drive....
[11:58] <vidd_laptop> Clarrisa_2008, is that right?
[11:58] <Tindora> sigmamu188: if you have any other VNCapplication you are familiar with and know how to set up a server for me. It would be nice.
[11:58] <Clarrisa_2008> vidd_laptop, yes I think so
[11:59] <sigmamu188> try typing sudo apt-get tightvncserver
[11:59] <sigmamu188> in terminal
[11:59] <Tindora> sigmamu188: I'd wrote that before, I must have installd it then ;)
[11:59] <blaamann> put in an "install"
[11:59] <Clarrisa_2008> sigmamul88, I have the fstab file in front of me...what am I looking for
[11:59] <sigmamu188> ohh yeah
[11:59] <sigmamu188> sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[11:59] <Clarrisa_2008> sigmamul88, should I pastebin it for you?
[12:00] <Tindora> got'cha
[12:00] <sigmamu188> thanks blaamann
[12:00] <Tindora> it's installed
[12:00] <sigmamu188> they just type vncserver
[12:00] <sigmamu188> go for it
[12:00] <sigmamu188> Clarrisa_2008:
[12:01] <sigmamu188> Tindora: after you type vncserver it shoud ask for a pw
[12:01] <sigmamu188> and make you re enter it
[12:01] <sigmamu188> then it should be up an running
[12:01] <sigmamu188> atleast the server
[12:01] <Clarrisa_2008> sigmamu188, ok this is dumb but I don't have the pastebin url
[12:01] <Clarrisa_2008> !pastebin
[12:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:01] <Clarrisa_2008> ok here goes
[12:02] <vidd_laptop> Clarrisa_2008, i assume you fixed the sudo thing?
[12:02] <sigmamu188> Clarrisa_2008: you are looking for a line documenting the mound of hdd
[12:02] <sigmamu188> Clarrisa_2008: let me know when you have it pasted i totally missed the line you typed earlier
[12:03] <sigmamu188> lol
[12:03] <sigmamu188> Tindora: any luck?
[12:03] <Clarrisa_2008> vidd_laptop, works great, thanks a ton
[12:03] <Clarrisa_2008> glad I now have a light-weight GUI on my linux box that..xubuntu is cool...  I have to have a gui that I can use some of the time...
[12:04] <Clarrisa_2008> np
[12:04] <Clarrisa_2008> my desktop is WAY to big, can't fit anything on it...where do I go to adjust the resolution here???  i've only had the xubuntu install for 20 minutes now
[12:04] <Clarrisa_2008> so I'm lost a little again
[12:06] <Tindora> sigmamu188: nope no luck at all
[12:06] <sigmamu188> did you type vncserver
[12:08] <Clarrisa_2008> sigmamu188:  ttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22783/
[12:08] <Clarrisa_2008> sigmamu188:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22783/  oops
[12:08] <sigmamu188> ok hdd is a cdrom drive
[12:08] <Clarrisa_2008> how do I adjust my desktop resolution???
[12:09] <Tindora> sigmamu188:  yes I did
[12:09] <Clarrisa_2008> I can fit anything on it
[12:09] <blaamann> Tindora: Try localhost:5800 in your web browser
[12:09] <sigmamu188> are you trying to save something to the diks?
[12:09] <sigmamu188> disk*
[12:09] <Clarrisa_2008> sigmamul88, should I be able to change the icon to be sort of a "my computer" windoze type thing that looks at my hard drive and not hte cdrom
[12:09] <Clarrisa_2008> nope
[12:10] <sigmamu188> you want to see you hd files is that the problem?
[12:10] <Clarrisa_2008> that Icon was on the desktop when I first installed xubuntu
[12:10] <sigmamu188> ohhhh
[12:10] <Clarrisa_2008> yes... a "my computer icon"
[12:10] <sigmamu188> have you rebooted since you install?
[12:10] <Tindora> Unable to connect
[12:10] <Tindora> 
[12:10] <Tindora> 
[12:10] <Tindora> 
[12:10] <Tindora> 
[12:10] <Tindora> 
[12:10] <Tindora> 
[12:10] <Tindora> 
[12:10] <Tindora> 
[12:10] <Jester45> !spam
[12:10] <Clarrisa_2008> I think so, but sure
[12:10] <Tindora> Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at localhost:5800.
[12:10] <ubotu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[12:10] <Tindora> SRY :(
[12:10] <Clarrisa_2008> I could try again and do it
[12:11] <sigmamu188> take the cd rom out
[12:11] <sigmamu188> then reboot
[12:11] <sigmamu188> to make sure you booting off the hd
[12:11] <sigmamu188> and not the live cd
[12:11] <Clarrisa_2008> the hole line?
[12:11] <Clarrisa_2008> whole
[12:12] <sigmamu188> there isint a mycomputer icom
[12:12] <sigmamu188> icon
[12:12] <Clarrisa_2008> oh ok
[12:12] <sigmamu188> see the little icon in the top right corner?
[12:12] <Clarrisa_2008> so is there no "file manger" type thingy?
[12:12] <sigmamu188> err
[12:12] <sigmamu188> left cornor
[12:12] <sigmamu188> yes there is a file manager
[12:13] <sigmamu188> you can type thunar in the terminal
[12:13] <Clarrisa_2008> well there is an applications, and a firefox icon on the top left... xchat on the top right and an exit icon
[12:13] <sigmamu188> click applications
[12:13] <sigmamu188> accessoriest
[12:13] <sigmamu188> accessories*
[12:13] <sigmamu188> then thunar
[12:13] <Clarrisa_2008> my accessories menu doesn't have a thunar
[12:14] <Clarrisa_2008> system does though...I think I found it
[12:14] <sigmamu188> try opening the terminal window and typing thunar
[12:14] <sigmamu188> ok
[12:14] <sigmamu188> click on that one
[12:14] <Clarrisa_2008> ok, cool, this is good
[12:14] <Clarrisa_2008> can I make a shortcut to that on my desktop?
[12:15] <sigmamu188> right click on the desktop
[12:15] <Clarrisa_2008> k
[12:15] <sigmamu188> and chose create launcher
[12:15] <Clarrisa_2008> k
[12:15] <sigmamu188> gimme one sec
[12:16] <sigmamu188> let me make sure im going to tell you the right thing
[12:16] <sigmamu188> ok
[12:16] <sigmamu188> are you at the screen that says name, comment, command?
[12:17] <Clarrisa_2008> ok, I got it, I clicked on the command icon and did a search in the list and found thunar.... new name for a file manger at least for me.  it works now
[12:18] <sigmamu188> Clarrisa_2008:
[12:18] <Clarrisa_2008> ok, I got it, I clicked on the command icon and did a search in the list and found thunar.... new name for a file manger at least for me.  it works now
[12:18] <sigmamu188> sorry accidentally killed xchat
[12:18] <Clarrisa_2008> no problem
[12:18] <sigmamu188> so its working ?
[12:19] <sigmamu188> i actually perfer krusader as my file manager
[12:19] <Clarrisa_2008> this is weird though.  I took out the cd that was in my cd drive and now that icon that was on the desktop is gone
[12:19] <sigmamu188> it has dual window panes
[12:19] <sigmamu188> yea
[12:19] <Clarrisa_2008> how do i get krusader
[12:19] <Clarrisa_2008> I like dual panes as well
[12:19] <sigmamu188> sudo apt-get install krusader
[12:19] <Clarrisa_2008> of COURSE
[12:20] <sigmamu188> dont feel bad youll  get used to linux
[12:20] <sigmamu188> im still learning
[12:20] <Clarrisa_2008> is there no way to change my resolution though?  this is very weird
[12:20] <sigmamu188> check in applications>settings>display settings
[12:20] <sigmamu188> you may have to do it another way but try that first
[12:21] <Clarrisa_2008> oh ok cool
[12:21] <Clarrisa_2008> that's the ticket
[12:21] <sigmamu188> anyone remember the command for xconfig?
[12:21] <Jester45> if that way doesnt work you have to edit your xorg.conf with: gksu mousepad /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[12:21] <sigmamu188> thanks Jester45 that was just what i couldnt remember
[12:22] <sigmamu188> isint there a way to run it via the gui
[12:22] <sigmamu188> like in the origional setup
[12:23] <sigmamu188> with the blue screen?
[12:23] <sigmamu188> i had to do it that way when i installed my nvidea drivers
[12:23] <TheSheep> sigmamu188: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:23] <sigmamu188> thanks
[12:24] <sigmamu188> TheSheep: MY HERO!!!
[12:24] <sigmamu188> thats going into the notebook
[12:25] <Clarrisa_2008> how do I run the tightvncserver after I've installed it
[12:25] <sigmamu188> type vncserver
[12:25] <sigmamu188> in terminal
[12:26] <Clarrisa_2008> kewl
[12:28] <sigmamu188> or rather type tightvncserver
[12:31] <Clarrisa_2008> krusader reminds me of wincommander or total commander.  I like it
[12:31] <sigmamu188> good comparison
[12:32] <TheSheep> onle the ctrl+left and ctrl+right don't work in it like in WC, which is a great shame
[12:32] <TheSheep> only
[12:33] <sigmamu188> what did the ctrl+left do?
[12:33] <sigmamu188> move files?