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tristan_fixed :)12:59
tristan_removed the journal and created a new one01:00
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sbalneavEvening all03:39
LaserJockhi03:40
pygihi folks03:46
pygiit's morning (3:40AM :P)03:46
sbalneavYou're up early :)03:49
pygisbalneav, you mean one should sleep? :P03:52
sbalneavWell, I'd still be sleeping at 3:40 in the morning :)03:53
pygihehe :)03:53
Burgundaviahey pygi, LaserJock, sbalneav03:57
pygihi Burgundavia , long time no see03:57
sbalneavHello03:57
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RichEdg'morning08:47
encompassI am a GSoC student working with PyStart... can some one show me how this pygtk.textview works?08:47
encompasshowdy08:48
RichEdencompass: I may be able to find a doc or help for you ... give me a few mins08:48
encompassthanks08:48
encompassI am using glade and can't figure out what and where to assign the buffer for that textview08:49
encompassto make the long question longe I need to clear the text.08:49
encompassto be exact :P08:49
juliuxgood morning RichEd08:49
RichEdhi juliux ... are you doing okay ?08:50
juliuxRichEd, at the moment yes;)08:50
RichEdgood08:50
juliuxRichEd,  i will travling today to berlin to the linuxtag08:50
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RichEdencompass: sorry I can't find anything on a search ... have you asked in #python ?08:55
encompassI will there next08:57
encompassthey don't know pygtk all the well actually :P08:58
LaserJockhi RichEd09:03
RichEdhi LaserJock ... how are you ?09:04
LaserJockdecent09:04
LaserJockenjoying my Memorial Day holiday09:04
LaserJockI'm into it 5min now ;-)09:05
RichEdso go offline and explore some real life !09:06
encompassoh yes... it is a holiday in the states09:06
encompassforgot all about it09:06
RichEdthat 3-dimensional stuff people talk about09:06
LaserJockRichEd: this isn't real life?!?09:06
LaserJock:-)09:06
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RichEdam I correct that it is a holiday for the UK and the US ?09:11
encompassI know it is a US holiday09:14
encompassIF RichEd.knows(UK.MemorialDay) = true then print "yes!"09:16
RichEdextract{http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/bankholidays.html}09:17
RichEd[Spring Bank Holiday09:17
RichEd(Last Monday in May)09:17
RichEd28 May] 09:17
encompassRichEd: sometime I even have a wobble world, jsut like my windows!09:17
RichEdencompass: so do we all, just MSFT seems to be more consistent ;)09:18
encompasshe09:20
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encompassshould I post all my programming questions here or in some dev room or ignore edubuntu totally and go for python...10:22
encompasshttp://launchpad.net/pystart is my GSoC project for edubuntu10:23
RichEdencompass: probably #python would be best10:24
RichEdnice project :) we're hoping to promote edubuntu/ubuntu as an ideal environment for teaching programming (license free of course)10:25
encompassgreat and thanks, I will throw comments there... they can be a tougher bunch of people, but I will do my best10:26
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RichEdhi ogra-classmate :)11:06
ogra-classmateyo11:07
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willvdlhey folks11:55
willvdlgreets from Kenya11:55
jsgotangcohi11:58
jsgotangcohow is the safari going?11:58
jsgotangco:D11:58
encompasswillvdl: howdy... lots of friends from Kenya here in finland... I attend school with like 1011:58
willvdlI'm at the elearning-africa conf11:59
willvdlit is unreal!11:59
jsgotangcohow can you describe something unreal?12:00
willvdljsgotangco, easy :)12:04
willvdl"like, woa man"12:04
jsgotangcowith wide eyes and gaping mouth12:05
willvdlyra12:07
willvdljsgotangco, do you know bridge-it?12:07
jsgotangcoyeah ive read about it12:07
willvdlor bridgit or bridgeit or something12:07
willvdlthey're here12:07
jsgotangcoreally?12:07
jsgotangcois that an expo of sorts?12:08
willvdlcheck out www.elearning-africa.com12:09
jsgotangcowow its big!12:10
jsgotangcoare you speaking or something?12:11
tristan_edubuntu r0x :)12:12
tristan_just plugin an old diskless PC in my network12:12
tristan_and it's going really fast12:12
tristan_:)12:12
tristan_it's plug&play12:12
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jsgotangcoits neat12:13
tristan_so I have to make a really difficult choise now12:13
tristan_buying some new workstations for a few hunderd euro's and install Vista12:13
tristan_or using my old stuff12:13
tristan_for doing the same12:13
tristan_and configure all those windows workstations and keeping them updated12:14
tristan_or keeping one server updated12:14
tristan_so difficult :P12:14
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cbx33hey Yagisan12:22
cbx33yo yo yo12:22
YagisanG'day cbx3312:22
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dayahow to run ltsp on edubuntu, what command12:37
dayado i need to install extra packages,12:38
tristan_daya: when you install edubuntu it's installed by default12:42
dayatristan_, yes, then how to run , do I have to restart some services like dhcp , tftp etc12:43
tristan_probably not12:43
dayai didn't find ltspadmin command12:43
tristan_it's not installed at my system either12:44
dayatristan_, even I don't have to run dhcp server,12:44
dayaI got error while i start my dhcp sever,12:45
tristan_hmmz12:45
dayado It run its own instance of dhcp server,12:45
tristan_well, edubuntu is running out of the box12:45
tristan_in my case it did12:46
tristan_what error did you get?12:46
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dayado i have to use /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file or /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf file I am confused,12:48
tristan_/etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf I guess12:49
dayaok,12:49
tristan_I'm sure12:49
dayaps -aux | grep dhcp, ?12:49
dayano output,12:50
tristan_/etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart12:50
tristan_uhm.. forgot sudo12:50
dayayes, but it would use the file /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf file,12:51
dayaand I have to edit it accordingly, then what about the /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf file12:51
tristan_well.. it should run out of the box12:53
tristan_so I don't have a clue12:53
dayaok, thanks tristan_ I will try it,12:54
tristan_are you sure your network is setup correctly during the setup?12:54
tristan_you have a fresh installation, right?12:54
dayatristan_, yes, and my network is working correctly ,12:55
dayawhat I am confused here is that , I have not tools like ltspadmin, and I am unable to see whether the services are running or not12:57
dayalike dhcp,12:57
highvoltageps aux | grep dhcpd | grep -v grep01:00
highvoltagethat should show you whether dhcpd is running01:00
highvoltage(or was it dhcp3-server? I can't quire remember)01:00
tristan_dhcp3-server01:00
tristan_or dhcpd01:00
tristan_i'm not sure01:01
tristan_sorry01:01
highvoltage:)01:01
tristan_forget this shit01:01
tristan_coevoet@coevoet-1:~$ ps aux | grep dhcpd | grep -v grep01:01
tristan_dhcpd     5230  0.0  0.2   2940  1308 ?        Ss   01:48   0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd3 -q -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid -cf /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf01:01
tristan_something like this01:01
tristan_:P01:01
highvoltageif it's on ubuntu, the config file will also most probably be at /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, and not in /etc/dhcp3-server01:01
`6ogthe ltsp/ file takes precedence over the /dhcp3-server/ file iirc01:02
tristan_how do I get rid of that NetworkManager crap01:03
tristan_it's crewing up my resolv.conf all the time01:03
tristan_:P01:03
`6og--purge remove ;)01:03
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tristan_`6og: good suggestion.. it also want's to remove edubuntu-desktop01:06
tristan_not sure if that's smart for future upgrades of this system01:06
`6ogtristan_, i suggest 'just' pinning it in place01:07
`6ogits pretty easy, but it does make some things (re apt) not as logical01:07
`6ogif its pinne, you can remve dependancies and it stays, but you cant reinstall it to reinstall the dependancies - you have to unpin it first01:07
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cbx33ping ol Yagisan01:58
cbx33doh!02:00
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tristan_today I gonna screw my server02:11
tristan_:)02:11
cbx33hahah02:12
tristan_someone experience with using the edubuntu server as storage for homedirectories and userstuff of a workstation using ldap?02:12
tristan_and samba02:12
tristan_?02:12
tristan_and authentication stuff02:13
tristan_don't have experience with this :P02:13
tristan_but want to use the same logins and homedirectory stuff as on the server02:13
tristan_so I can switch from my workstation to the thin client without missing my files02:13
tristan_and vice versa02:14
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tristan_ok.. have to setup samba/nfs and openldap :)02:20
tristan_hope it works02:20
tristan_oO02:20
tristan_ogra: you there?02:51
tristan_or moquist02:52
tristan_?02:52
tristan_or ajmitch02:53
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highvoltagehey willvdl. do you know when you'll be in durbanville again?04:15
willvdlhighvoltage, erm, Friday...04:15
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willvdlin eLearning Africa04:16
highvoltagefriday is ok. I can then extract the videos during the weekend04:16
willvdlsorry04:19
willvdlI did saay I'd do it last week04:19
highvoltagenot a problem.04:20
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willvdlman the internet is dodgy here04:20
willvdlcisco is providing an access point and it bounces like a...something that bounces a lot04:21
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sbalneavMorning all04:35
highvoltageafternoon, sbalneav04:37
sbalneavhey hey04:37
ogra-classmateRichEd: we'll need to sit down this week to go through the specs and approve/decline them04:52
RichEdokay ... when would work for you ? wednesday before the meeting ?04:52
ogra-classmate(deadline for the distro team specs is thursday)04:52
ogra-classmatenay day will be fine04:53
ogra-classmateany04:53
tristan_ogra: do you know anything about that EdubuntuNetworkAuthServer stuff I readed online?04:53
ogra-classmatewe just need to have our list by end of the week, i"m open for everything04:54
ogra-classmatetristan_: the ubuntu server team will build something for us so we dont need to care much about it anymore04:54
ogra-classmatethe spoec is old04:54
ogra-classmate*spec04:54
RichEdogra-classmate: okay ... let's try a first round before the meeting and then carry on afterwards if we need to ... 11:00 UTC wed04:54
ogra-classmateok04:54
ogra-classmateand probably make sure we have all potential devs in the meeting then :)04:55
tristan_ogra-classmate: is there anything atm I can use to set those stuff up?04:55
tristan_cause it looks like what I need here04:55
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ogra-classmatetristan_: there are plenty of howtos to set up an ldap server for authentication, you can do it manually, the spec is about an automated setup04:56
RichEdogra-classmate: jane says hi ... and has a general question I can't find an answer for ... any idea what could cause her discusion forum posts to appear twice when she uses the proxy at work ?04:56
RichEd*discussion04:56
RichEdshe says the proxy is very slow, and I suspect it may be doing a refresh / resubmit / repost when it (almost) times out ?04:56
ogra-classmatethey come from two different adresses ? might be a broken proxy setup04:57
sbalneavtristan_: yeah, setting up an ldap server and getting the PAM stuff going's a bit tricky, but it;s doable.  Google for ldap authentication, and you'll come up with some howtos.04:57
ogra-classmateRichEd: yes thats plausible ...04:58
ogra-classmatebut its hard to diagnose remotely without having any data about the machine the proxy runs on04:58
RichEdokay ... thanks ... she has no control over the proxy, but I guess she can mail the admin guy asking if he has any ideas04:59
ogra-classmateif its no hw failure like broken disks that cause a resend or something, it will be a broken setup05:00
RichEdthanks05:01
tristan_sbalneav: I'm not experienced with that :(05:03
sbalneavtristan_: No better way to get experienced than by following a howto :)05:03
tristan_I know05:05
tristan_but I'm lazy these days05:05
tristan_actually since i'm using ubuntu05:05
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KJWheya, I have my main administrator user that can use the potato guy game, but I also set up another user, and when I go to potato guy game it says "No Sound" on it. I checked permissions on sound files and they are ok, I can also play these sound files directly from the file system and they work. What is wrong?06:13
ogra-classmatecheck that the user is in the audio group06:14
ogra-classmatehow did you create the non privileged users ?06:14
ogra-classmatethe gui tool has a desktop user profile that sets the appropriate default groups06:15
KJWok, but isn't it strange that the user can play the sound files, but can't use the same ones in potato guy?06:16
KJWuser is in audio group in /etc/group06:16
KJWI created user with gui06:16
ogra-classmatehmm, thats strange then06:16
KJWis there somewhere that it saves the ktuberling info in the users home directory?06:19
ogra-classmatei guess so06:19
KJWI just tried creating another user and it works fine for this other user, but can't seem to find any ktuberling files in user dirs06:20
ogra-classmateprobably in a .kde dir06:21
KJWyeah, I looked in there, there seemed to be ones for other apps, but not ktuberling, unless I missed it06:22
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DeadEnd154Can anyone Please Help me with an Install on Linux?06:29
KJWDeadEnd154 is that your question?06:30
DeadEnd154did u get that ?06:33
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KJWogra-classmate: I deleted the whole .kde directory in my user account and now it works, thanks!06:49
ogra-classmateah, great :)06:50
meduxahi all, spanish edu distro are talking about introducing a little spec in free desktop related with a new category in menu specs for little kids' apps06:55
meduxaLinex and mEDUXa has faced a problem with this while configuring GNOME and K menu for kids06:55
meduxawe are going to send a proposal and I was wondering if you guys are interesnted on it06:56
ogra-classmatemeduxa: wait until LaserJock is around, he wrote an edubuntu spec for that that sits in the spec tracker since two releases now, i"m sure he'd love to see that going forward06:56
meduxawe won't do anything until friday or so06:57
meduxawe are only talking about it06:57
ogra-classmatewell, thats a start :)06:58
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ace_aceogra !12:17
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jonathan_I'm trying to install a web filter w/ my ltsp setup and it seems that dansguardian mucks the dhcp server up any help?12:19
ace_aceproblem: on the server, at the login screen, clicking Options->Configure Login Manager, yields nothing...!12:19
jonathan_I'm trying to install a web filter w/ my ltsp setup and it seems that dansguardian mucks the dhcp server up any help?12:20

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