[12:59] <tristan_> fixed :)
[01:00] <tristan_> removed the journal and created a new one
[03:39] <sbalneav> Evening all
[03:40] <LaserJock> hi
[03:46] <pygi> hi folks
[03:46] <pygi> it's morning (3:40AM :P)
[03:49] <sbalneav> You're up early :)
[03:52] <pygi> sbalneav, you mean one should sleep? :P
[03:53] <sbalneav> Well, I'd still be sleeping at 3:40 in the morning :)
[03:53] <pygi> hehe :)
[03:57] <Burgundavia> hey pygi, LaserJock, sbalneav
[03:57] <pygi> hi Burgundavia , long time no see
[03:57] <sbalneav> Hello
[08:47] <RichEd> g'morning
[08:47] <encompass> I am a GSoC student working with PyStart... can some one show me how this pygtk.textview works?
[08:48] <encompass> howdy
[08:48] <RichEd> encompass: I may be able to find a doc or help for you ... give me a few mins
[08:48] <encompass> thanks
[08:49] <encompass> I am using glade and can't figure out what and where to assign the buffer for that textview
[08:49] <encompass> to make the long question longe I need to clear the text.
[08:49] <encompass> to be exact :P
[08:49] <juliux> good morning RichEd
[08:50] <RichEd> hi juliux ... are you doing okay ?
[08:50] <juliux> RichEd, at the moment yes;)
[08:50] <RichEd> good
[08:50] <juliux> RichEd,  i will travling today to berlin to the linuxtag
[08:55] <RichEd> encompass: sorry I can't find anything on a search ... have you asked in #python ?
[08:57] <encompass> I will there next
[08:58] <encompass> they don't know pygtk all the well actually :P
[09:03] <LaserJock> hi RichEd
[09:04] <RichEd> hi LaserJock ... how are you ?
[09:04] <LaserJock> decent
[09:04] <LaserJock> enjoying my Memorial Day holiday
[09:05] <LaserJock> I'm into it 5min now ;-)
[09:06] <RichEd> so go offline and explore some real life !
[09:06] <encompass> oh yes... it is a holiday in the states
[09:06] <encompass> forgot all about it
[09:06] <RichEd> that 3-dimensional stuff people talk about
[09:06] <LaserJock> RichEd: this isn't real life?!?
[09:06] <LaserJock> :-)
[09:11] <RichEd> am I correct that it is a holiday for the UK and the US ?
[09:14] <encompass> I know it is a US holiday
[09:16] <encompass> IF RichEd.knows(UK.MemorialDay) = true then print "yes!"
[09:17] <RichEd> extract{http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/bankholidays.html}
[09:17] <RichEd> [Spring Bank Holiday
[09:17] <RichEd> (Last Monday in May)
[09:17] <RichEd> 28 May] 
[09:17] <encompass> RichEd: sometime I even have a wobble world, jsut like my windows!
[09:18] <RichEd> encompass: so do we all, just MSFT seems to be more consistent ;)
[09:20] <encompass> he
[10:22] <encompass> should I post all my programming questions here or in some dev room or ignore edubuntu totally and go for python...
[10:23] <encompass> http://launchpad.net/pystart is my GSoC project for edubuntu
[10:24] <RichEd> encompass: probably #python would be best
[10:25] <RichEd> nice project :) we're hoping to promote edubuntu/ubuntu as an ideal environment for teaching programming (license free of course)
[10:26] <encompass> great and thanks, I will throw comments there... they can be a tougher bunch of people, but I will do my best
[11:06] <RichEd> hi ogra-classmate :)
[11:07] <ogra-classmate> yo
[11:55] <willvdl> hey folks
[11:55] <willvdl> greets from Kenya
[11:58] <jsgotangco> hi
[11:58] <jsgotangco> how is the safari going?
[11:58] <jsgotangco> :D
[11:58] <encompass> willvdl: howdy... lots of friends from Kenya here in finland... I attend school with like 10
[11:59] <willvdl> I'm at the elearning-africa conf
[11:59] <willvdl> it is unreal!
[12:00] <jsgotangco> how can you describe something unreal?
[12:04] <willvdl> jsgotangco, easy :)
[12:04] <willvdl> "like, woa man"
[12:05] <jsgotangco> with wide eyes and gaping mouth
[12:07] <willvdl> yra
[12:07] <willvdl> jsgotangco, do you know bridge-it?
[12:07] <jsgotangco> yeah ive read about it
[12:07] <willvdl> or bridgit or bridgeit or something
[12:07] <willvdl> they're here
[12:07] <jsgotangco> really?
[12:08] <jsgotangco> is that an expo of sorts?
[12:09] <willvdl> check out www.elearning-africa.com
[12:10] <jsgotangco> wow its big!
[12:11] <jsgotangco> are you speaking or something?
[12:12] <tristan_> edubuntu r0x :)
[12:12] <tristan_> just plugin an old diskless PC in my network
[12:12] <tristan_> and it's going really fast
[12:12] <tristan_> :)
[12:12] <tristan_> it's plug&play
[12:13] <jsgotangco> its neat
[12:13] <tristan_> so I have to make a really difficult choise now
[12:13] <tristan_> buying some new workstations for a few hunderd euro's and install Vista
[12:13] <tristan_> or using my old stuff
[12:13] <tristan_> for doing the same
[12:14] <tristan_> and configure all those windows workstations and keeping them updated
[12:14] <tristan_> or keeping one server updated
[12:14] <tristan_> so difficult :P
[12:22] <cbx33> hey Yagisan
[12:22] <cbx33> yo yo yo
[12:22] <Yagisan> G'day cbx33
[12:37] <daya> how to run ltsp on edubuntu, what command
[12:38] <daya> do i need to install extra packages,
[12:42] <tristan_> daya: when you install edubuntu it's installed by default
[12:43] <daya> tristan_, yes, then how to run , do I have to restart some services like dhcp , tftp etc
[12:43] <tristan_> probably not
[12:43] <daya> i didn't find ltspadmin command
[12:44] <tristan_> it's not installed at my system either
[12:44] <daya> tristan_, even I don't have to run dhcp server,
[12:45] <daya> I got error while i start my dhcp sever,
[12:45] <tristan_> hmmz
[12:45] <daya> do It run its own instance of dhcp server,
[12:45] <tristan_> well, edubuntu is running out of the box
[12:46] <tristan_> in my case it did
[12:46] <tristan_> what error did you get?
[12:48] <daya> do i have to use /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file or /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf file I am confused,
[12:49] <tristan_> /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf I guess
[12:49] <daya> ok,
[12:49] <tristan_> I'm sure
[12:49] <daya> ps -aux | grep dhcp, ?
[12:50] <daya> no output,
[12:50] <tristan_> /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart
[12:50] <tristan_> uhm.. forgot sudo
[12:51] <daya> yes, but it would use the file /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf file,
[12:51] <daya> and I have to edit it accordingly, then what about the /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf file
[12:53] <tristan_> well.. it should run out of the box
[12:53] <tristan_> so I don't have a clue
[12:54] <daya> ok, thanks tristan_ I will try it,
[12:54] <tristan_> are you sure your network is setup correctly during the setup?
[12:54] <tristan_> you have a fresh installation, right?
[12:55] <daya> tristan_, yes, and my network is working correctly ,
[12:57] <daya> what I am confused here is that , I have not tools like ltspadmin, and I am unable to see whether the services are running or not
[12:57] <daya> like dhcp,
[01:00] <highvoltage> ps aux | grep dhcpd | grep -v grep
[01:00] <highvoltage> that should show you whether dhcpd is running
[01:00] <highvoltage> (or was it dhcp3-server? I can't quire remember)
[01:00] <tristan_> dhcp3-server
[01:00] <tristan_> or dhcpd
[01:01] <tristan_> i'm not sure
[01:01] <tristan_> sorry
[01:01] <highvoltage> :)
[01:01] <tristan_> forget this shit
[01:01] <tristan_> coevoet@coevoet-1:~$ ps aux | grep dhcpd | grep -v grep
[01:01] <tristan_> dhcpd     5230  0.0  0.2   2940  1308 ?        Ss   01:48   0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd3 -q -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid -cf /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[01:01] <tristan_> something like this
[01:01] <tristan_> :P
[01:01] <highvoltage> if it's on ubuntu, the config file will also most probably be at /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf, and not in /etc/dhcp3-server
[01:02] <`6og> the ltsp/ file takes precedence over the /dhcp3-server/ file iirc
[01:03] <tristan_> how do I get rid of that NetworkManager crap
[01:03] <tristan_> it's crewing up my resolv.conf all the time
[01:03] <tristan_> :P
[01:03] <`6og> --purge remove ;)
[01:06] <tristan_> `6og: good suggestion.. it also want's to remove edubuntu-desktop
[01:06] <tristan_> not sure if that's smart for future upgrades of this system
[01:07] <`6og> tristan_, i suggest 'just' pinning it in place
[01:07] <`6og> its pretty easy, but it does make some things (re apt) not as logical
[01:07] <`6og> if its pinne, you can remve dependancies and it stays, but you cant reinstall it to reinstall the dependancies - you have to unpin it first
[01:58] <cbx33> ping ol Yagisan
[02:00] <cbx33> doh!
[02:11] <tristan_> today I gonna screw my server
[02:11] <tristan_> :)
[02:12] <cbx33> hahah
[02:12] <tristan_> someone experience with using the edubuntu server as storage for homedirectories and userstuff of a workstation using ldap?
[02:12] <tristan_> and samba
[02:12] <tristan_> ?
[02:13] <tristan_> and authentication stuff
[02:13] <tristan_> don't have experience with this :P
[02:13] <tristan_> but want to use the same logins and homedirectory stuff as on the server
[02:13] <tristan_> so I can switch from my workstation to the thin client without missing my files
[02:14] <tristan_> and vice versa
[02:20] <tristan_> ok.. have to setup samba/nfs and openldap :)
[02:20] <tristan_> hope it works
[02:20] <tristan_> oO
[02:51] <tristan_> ogra: you there?
[02:52] <tristan_> or moquist
[02:52] <tristan_> ?
[02:53] <tristan_> or ajmitch
[04:15] <highvoltage> hey willvdl. do you know when you'll be in durbanville again?
[04:15] <willvdl> highvoltage, erm, Friday...
[04:16] <willvdl> in eLearning Africa
[04:16] <highvoltage> friday is ok. I can then extract the videos during the weekend
[04:19] <willvdl> sorry
[04:19] <willvdl> I did saay I'd do it last week
[04:20] <highvoltage> not a problem.
[04:20] <willvdl> man the internet is dodgy here
[04:21] <willvdl> cisco is providing an access point and it bounces like a...something that bounces a lot
[04:35] <sbalneav> Morning all
[04:37] <highvoltage> afternoon, sbalneav
[04:37] <sbalneav> hey hey
[04:52] <ogra-classmate> RichEd: we'll need to sit down this week to go through the specs and approve/decline them
[04:52] <RichEd> okay ... when would work for you ? wednesday before the meeting ?
[04:52] <ogra-classmate> (deadline for the distro team specs is thursday)
[04:53] <ogra-classmate> nay day will be fine
[04:53] <ogra-classmate> any
[04:53] <tristan_> ogra: do you know anything about that EdubuntuNetworkAuthServer stuff I readed online?
[04:54] <ogra-classmate> we just need to have our list by end of the week, i"m open for everything
[04:54] <ogra-classmate> tristan_: the ubuntu server team will build something for us so we dont need to care much about it anymore
[04:54] <ogra-classmate> the spoec is old
[04:54] <ogra-classmate> *spec
[04:54] <RichEd> ogra-classmate: okay ... let's try a first round before the meeting and then carry on afterwards if we need to ... 11:00 UTC wed
[04:54] <ogra-classmate> ok
[04:55] <ogra-classmate> and probably make sure we have all potential devs in the meeting then :)
[04:55] <tristan_> ogra-classmate: is there anything atm I can use to set those stuff up?
[04:55] <tristan_> cause it looks like what I need here
[04:56] <ogra-classmate> tristan_: there are plenty of howtos to set up an ldap server for authentication, you can do it manually, the spec is about an automated setup
[04:56] <RichEd> ogra-classmate: jane says hi ... and has a general question I can't find an answer for ... any idea what could cause her discusion forum posts to appear twice when she uses the proxy at work ?
[04:56] <RichEd> *discussion
[04:56] <RichEd> she says the proxy is very slow, and I suspect it may be doing a refresh / resubmit / repost when it (almost) times out ?
[04:57] <ogra-classmate> they come from two different adresses ? might be a broken proxy setup
[04:57] <sbalneav> tristan_: yeah, setting up an ldap server and getting the PAM stuff going's a bit tricky, but it;s doable.  Google for ldap authentication, and you'll come up with some howtos.
[04:58] <ogra-classmate> RichEd: yes thats plausible ...
[04:58] <ogra-classmate> but its hard to diagnose remotely without having any data about the machine the proxy runs on
[04:59] <RichEd> okay ... thanks ... she has no control over the proxy, but I guess she can mail the admin guy asking if he has any ideas
[05:00] <ogra-classmate> if its no hw failure like broken disks that cause a resend or something, it will be a broken setup
[05:01] <RichEd> thanks
[05:03] <tristan_> sbalneav: I'm not experienced with that :(
[05:03] <sbalneav> tristan_: No better way to get experienced than by following a howto :)
[05:05] <tristan_> I know
[05:05] <tristan_> but I'm lazy these days
[05:05] <tristan_> actually since i'm using ubuntu
[06:13] <KJW> heya, I have my main administrator user that can use the potato guy game, but I also set up another user, and when I go to potato guy game it says "No Sound" on it. I checked permissions on sound files and they are ok, I can also play these sound files directly from the file system and they work. What is wrong?
[06:14] <ogra-classmate> check that the user is in the audio group
[06:14] <ogra-classmate> how did you create the non privileged users ?
[06:15] <ogra-classmate> the gui tool has a desktop user profile that sets the appropriate default groups
[06:16] <KJW> ok, but isn't it strange that the user can play the sound files, but can't use the same ones in potato guy?
[06:16] <KJW> user is in audio group in /etc/group
[06:16] <KJW> I created user with gui
[06:16] <ogra-classmate> hmm, thats strange then
[06:19] <KJW> is there somewhere that it saves the ktuberling info in the users home directory?
[06:19] <ogra-classmate> i guess so
[06:20] <KJW> I just tried creating another user and it works fine for this other user, but can't seem to find any ktuberling files in user dirs
[06:21] <ogra-classmate> probably in a .kde dir
[06:22] <KJW> yeah, I looked in there, there seemed to be ones for other apps, but not ktuberling, unless I missed it
[06:29] <DeadEnd154> Can anyone Please Help me with an Install on Linux?
[06:30] <KJW> DeadEnd154 is that your question?
[06:33] <DeadEnd154> did u get that ?
[06:49] <KJW> ogra-classmate: I deleted the whole .kde directory in my user account and now it works, thanks!
[06:50] <ogra-classmate> ah, great :)
[06:55] <meduxa> hi all, spanish edu distro are talking about introducing a little spec in free desktop related with a new category in menu specs for little kids' apps
[06:55] <meduxa> Linex and mEDUXa has faced a problem with this while configuring GNOME and K menu for kids
[06:56] <meduxa> we are going to send a proposal and I was wondering if you guys are interesnted on it
[06:56] <ogra-classmate> meduxa: wait until LaserJock is around, he wrote an edubuntu spec for that that sits in the spec tracker since two releases now, i"m sure he'd love to see that going forward
[06:57] <meduxa> we won't do anything until friday or so
[06:57] <meduxa> we are only talking about it
[06:58] <ogra-classmate> well, thats a start :)
[12:17] <ace_ace> ogra !
[12:19] <jonathan_> I'm trying to install a web filter w/ my ltsp setup and it seems that dansguardian mucks the dhcp server up any help?
[12:19] <ace_ace> problem: on the server, at the login screen, clicking Options->Configure Login Manager, yields nothing...!
[12:20] <jonathan_> I'm trying to install a web filter w/ my ltsp setup and it seems that dansguardian mucks the dhcp server up any help?