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[01:25] <soc> someone there?
[01:26] <crimsun> (do you actually have a question?)
[01:32] <soc> sorry
[01:32] <soc> ok
[01:32] <soc> since the xserver update (1.3) x doesn't work anymore
[01:33] <soc> (ati x1400)
[01:33] <soc> that wouldn't be a problem
[01:33] <soc> but even the vesa driver doens't work anymore
[01:33] <crimsun> are you referring to fglrx, then, not being compatible with xorg-server 1.3? We know about that.
[01:34] <soc> yes sure
[01:34] <soc> that's not the problem
[01:34] <soc> i know that fglrx doesn't work 90% of the time :-)
[01:34] <soc> the problem is that vesa wont' work anymore
[01:35] <soc> and that is something i don't understand
[01:35] <crimsun> pastebin the /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[01:35] <soc> ok one moment,
[01:35] <soc> i have to start the laptop
[01:36] <soc> i just wonder, xserver and the vesa driver come from the same dev-team
[01:36] <crimsun> well, yes, that's X.Org ...
[01:36] <soc> yes, normally i would expect that things from the same team work together ...
[01:37] <crimsun> ...it's gutsy. Don't expect anything to mildly work until Beta.
[01:37] <crimsun> It's very early in the dev cycle, and we're all busy breaking stuff as badly as possible.
[01:38] <soc> :-)
[01:38] <soc> ok
[01:38] <soc> pastebin?
[01:40] <soc> mom
[01:40] <soc> uploading ....
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[01:42] <soc> pastebin doesn't like me ...
[01:43] <crimsun> then choose another of the hundreds of available pastebins.
[01:44] <soc> http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/11126/
[01:44] <soc> her we go
[01:45] <crimsun> why are you using 2.6.22-3?
[01:45] <crimsun> we're already on 2.6.22-5
[01:48] <crimsun> what mode is xorg.conf configured to use?
[01:51] <soc> mmh
[01:51] <soc> maybe dist-upgrade forgot that ...
[01:51] <soc> what mode?
[01:52] <crimsun> mode is also called "resolution".
[01:52] <crimsun> e.g., 1280x800
[01:52] <soc> ah okok
[01:53] <soc> Modes "1280x800" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:55] <crimsun> well, 1280x800 is failing, and neither of the following three modes are valid according to the output
[01:55] <crimsun> so yes, you'll get a failure
[01:56] <crimsun> is your hardware capable of 1280x1024?
[01:56] <crimsun> (do you have a widescreen or something?)
[01:56] <soc> yes
[01:56] <soc> a notebook
[01:56] <soc> 15.4"
[01:56] <crimsun> which "yes" is that an answer to?
[01:56] <soc> how can i fix taht?
[01:56] <soc> yes i have a widescreen
[01:57] <soc> hardware is capable too
[01:57] <crimsun> you can downgrade to the previous xserver-xorg-core
[01:57] <soc> i didn't try that, thought there a too many dependencies already ...
[01:58] <soc> ok, how do i do that?
[01:59] <crimsun> investigate specifying version being passed to apt-get/aptitude
[01:59] <crimsun> e.g., sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg-core=2:1.2.0-3ubuntu8
[01:59] <soc> is it possible to use dpkg with the corresponding package?
[01:59] <soc> ah thx ...
[01:59] <crimsun> please, please, please read the topic.
[02:00] <crimsun> (even though "dependencies" is misspelled)
[02:00] <soc> :-)
[02:07] <soc> seems 1.2.0 is only in feisty ...
[02:07] <crimsun> so add the appropriate deb line, then use it.
[02:08] <crimsun> seriously, you really shouldn't be messing w/ gutsy yet if you aren't already familiar with current breakage and possible workarounds. :)
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[02:09] <soc> oh
[02:09] <soc> i just couldn't remember the correct syntax for apt
[02:10] <soc> thought there is a solution besides donwgrading ...
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[02:10] <soc> having fun messing around since breezy alpha :-)
[02:10] <crimsun> "alpha"?
[02:11] <soc> no, went to ubuntu before the beta uf breezy
[02:12] <crimsun> (right, we don't have "alpha" milestones per se)
[02:12] <soc> a few days after hoary if i remember right ...
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[02:12] <soc> mhh
[02:13] <soc> seems the package wants to downgrade all drivers :-)
[02:13] <crimsun> so do it.
[02:13] <soc> already on it
[02:19] <soc> up and running :-)
[02:19] <soc> thx
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[05:46] <defcon> what main problems is wrong with gutsy atm
[05:48] <MugginsM> it's too stable for me
[05:49] <Hobbsee> we need some more kernel work.  it's not broken.
[05:49] <Hobbsee> enough
[05:49] <crimsun> sure, what would you like broken?
[05:50] <defcon> does it run well
[05:50] <defcon> with not allot of bugs?
[05:50] <defcon> how is the new gnome
[05:50] <defcon> !install
[05:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[05:51] <defcon> uh, im trying a apt-get dist-upgrade and it wont
[05:51] <defcon> what do I gotta do to check it out
[05:51] <defcon> also, I have kde/kubuntu installed, any issues regarding that
[05:54] <defcon> !gutsy
[05:54] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
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[05:55] <Hobbsee> crimsun: i'd like apt to segfault again
[05:55] <defcon> Hobbsee, how do I do a dist upgrade to gutsy
[05:56] <Hobbsee> defcon: if you need to ask, you shouldnt be running it..
[05:56] <defcon> Hobbsee, I have boxes to spare
[05:56] <Hobbsee> metapackages are broken, so you'll need to actually look at the errors and think about them
[05:57] <crimsun> Hobbsee: that can be arranged. mvo would probably have my ears in a soup.
[05:57] <Hobbsee> crimsun: heh
[05:58] <Hobbsee> crimsun: you could fix the ialibs32 file conflicts, etc.
[05:59] <crimsun> hmm, I could, but I'd have less than 60 seconds to do so.
[05:59] <crimsun> I truly don't intend to do Ubuntu stuff on holiday, which is in roughly 30 seconds.
[05:59] <Hobbsee> ahhhh
[05:59] <Hobbsee> what are you going to do on holiday?
[05:59] <crimsun> I'm going to work on Ubuntu stuff. =)
[06:00] <Hobbsee> no you're not :P
[06:00] <crimsun> I wish it weren't, but sadly these audio bugs are piling up...
[06:02] <Hobbsee> ahhh
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[06:23] <DanaG> Hmm, the Trackballs game thoroughly eats my CPU when I run it.
[06:23] <Hobbsee> there's a trackballs game?
[06:24] <Hobbsee> ooh, so there is
[06:24] <Hobbsee> like neverball, it looks like
[06:24] <DanaG> Warning: try it on "easy (sandbox)" first.
[06:24] <DanaG> It's insane in some places.
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[06:33] <DanaG> Give it a try.
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[06:37] <Hobbsee> but i should do assignments and fix things!
[06:37] <Hobbsee> and ooh, pretty bootsplash
[06:37] <DanaG> Bootsplash?
[06:37] <Hobbsee> found some bootsplash images
[06:37] <Hobbsee> grub
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[06:38] <crimsun> ...it doesn't?
[06:39] <crimsun> (at least 2.6.22-5.11-generic doesn't)
[06:39] <DanaG> Hmm, I guess I'd need to file a bug report.
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[06:39] <DanaG> I'm using vga=792.
[06:39] <crimsun> usplash, too?
[06:40] <crimsun> I don't use usplash, and I have not the symptom you describe.
[06:40] <DanaG> The usplash actually shows up perfectly (other than the squished-ness due to LCD stretching)
[06:41] <RAOF> My usplash works fine, and VT switching worked before the dbus stuff broke my XGL session :)
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[06:43] <RAOF> Ugh, beryl.
[06:43] <Hobbsee> ah, beryl-crack.
[06:43] <Hobbsee> no wonder.
[06:43] <DanaG> Why "ugh">
[06:43] <DanaG> I tone down some of the effects.
[06:43] <RAOF> You might want to try the new, improved git compiz lying around in main :)
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[06:43] <DanaG> I'd try it if I could actually change settings.
[06:44] <RAOF> Bah.  Real men use gconf-editor!
[06:44] <RAOF> :P
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[06:44] <DanaG> Oh, I thought you meant the post-merge thingy.
[06:44] <DanaG> That one has broken settings for me -- settings changes don't stick.
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[09:52] <cypherdelic> ok this is filanlly the pastebin of my samba issues inclusice my smb.conf, please help
[09:52] <cypherdelic>  http://phpfi.com/237495
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[11:44] <hunger> My gutsy no longer starts up: Cryptsetup freezes... is this a known problem?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> hunger: i havent run into it yet. file a bug on it and it will get fixed sooner or later
[11:45] <hunger> gnomefreak:: That is the problem: I need to get to the data on one of the encrypted drives:-(
[11:45] <hunger> gnomefreak: So sooner or later is not soon enough:-(
[11:46] <gnomefreak> hunger: sorry but the topic explains to not run it on production pcs and this early it should only be used by devels
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ompaul: beta would mean it was released as some type of version it hasnt been released to public yet :)
[11:47] <hunger> gnomefreak:: I am aware of that and am not complaining. I am just wondering whether somebody else has seen this problem before. I'll just try to debug it otherwise.
[11:47] <ompaul> gnomefreak, well unstable :)
[11:48] <gnomefreak> hunger: no it hasnt been seen yet as i havent seen a bug pass my email yet about it.
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[11:48] <hunger> gnomefreak:: Too bad... I'll get back online when I know what is wrong then...
[11:49] <gnomefreak> at this point in devel bugs ar ethe only way to get things known to devels
[11:49] <hunger> gnomefreak:: I am aware of that. But I am not in a position to file bug reports with this box:-( Need to get back into linux first.
[11:50] <gnomefreak> cant file bug report from another OS?
[11:50] <hunger> gnomefreak: My passwords and everything are on the encrypted partition:-|
[11:51] <hunger> gnomefreak:: And LP requires you to register IIRC before you may file a bug.
[11:51] <gnomefreak> i think that was chaged or atleast it was supposed to change
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[11:53] <hunger> Any idea which source package cryptsetup belongs to?
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[11:57] <gnomefreak> hunger: its its own source package
[11:57] <gnomefreak> apt-get source cryptsetup
[11:58] <hunger> gnomefreak:: Hmmm... I don't see it in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/c/
[11:58] <gnomefreak> hunger: apt-cache show cryptsetup
[11:58] <hunger> gnomefreak: Yeap... I am not on ubuntu... I need to manually grab it:-(
[11:58] <gnomefreak> and its in universe not main
[11:58] <gnomefreak> hunger: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:58] <hunger> gnomefreak: THANKS!
[11:59] <hunger> gnomefreak:: Oh, I had not known that ubuntu has that!
[11:59] <hunger> gnomefreak: Allways checked the debian package site and tried to guess at ubuntu from there;-)
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[12:30] <defcon_> Is there any way to reinstall gnome in ubuntu because I am having a serious problem, for some reason I cannot open gnome log viewer, i open it and it automatically closes... any ideas?
[12:30] <defcon_> this may be a bug
[12:30] <defcon_> or a incompatibility issue?
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[12:40] <gnomefreak> either way its a bug and should be filed as one
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[01:33] <afflux> !gutsy
[01:33] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule Support in #ubuntu+1
[01:33] <afflux> my life is meaningless. I'll now upgrade to gutsy.
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[05:11] <ryanpg> Xorg is crashing, apport runs then it crashes... is there some way of manually processing the *.crash files in /var/crash?
[05:13] <ryanpg> root@ubuntu-laptop:/var/crash# apport-retrace _usr_bin_Xorg.0.crash
[05:13] <ryanpg> report file does not contain required fields: CoreDump Package ExecutablePath
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[05:21] <heimdall> Hello, I am having some problems with cryptsetup after upgrading to gutsy. It is not finding my root encrypted partition. Has anyone experienced this and/or have any advice on how to fix it?
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[05:35] <gnomefreak> heimdall: you asked yesterday and it still is the same. as i told you file a bug on it
[05:37] <gnomefreak> heimdall: your likely not gonna find help with that without a bug since it seems to be only you that has the issue (or a bug would have been open already)
[05:38] <heimdall> sorry but I just did this today so whoever asked you yesterday must have the same problem. I am looking at launchpad now to see if anyone has filed a bug and or workarounds
[05:38] <gnomefreak> heimdall: same host mask as user yesterday so unless you logged in using his pc than you are him
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[05:39] <gnomefreak> heimdall: i looked yesterday for a bug it has not yet been opened
[05:39] <heimdall> hmm that is wierd cuz I just did the dist-upgrade today...
[05:40] <gnomefreak> heimdall: file a bug its the only way it will have a chance of being fixed
[05:41] <heimdall> well im not sure exactly what the problem is. I might have couple different ones. I changed my crypttab to point to sd* vs hd* to see if it would spit out something different but it still tries to find hd*
[05:42] <heimdall> so this could also be my lack of knowledge running cryptsetup
[05:43] <gnomefreak> heimdall: its a bug in the package nothing more nothing less
[05:43] <heimdall> ok
[05:44] <gnomefreak> heimdall: if you are not a developer you should NOT be running gutsy even for the fun of it or for testing its not ready for wide spread testing yet
[05:45] <gnomefreak> heimdall: any problems need to get filed as a bug we will not support it in here until it is released to the public in ISO form
[05:45] <heimdall> gotcha
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