[07:04] <LaserJock> anybody alive in here? :-)
[07:05] <Burgundavia> never
[07:05] <Burgundavia> what do you need?
[07:05] <LaserJock> uh oh
[07:05] <LaserJock> you guys know Vid Ayer?
[07:06] <Burgundavia> yes, good people
[07:06] <LaserJock> she(?) sent me an email about Behind MOTU
[07:07] <Burgundavia> it is a she
[07:07] <LaserJock> asking if I'd be interested in becoming a fridge editor and perhaps doing Behind MOTU there
[07:08] <LaserJock> so I thought I'd drop by and see what you were up to
[07:09] <Burgundavia> we would love more editors
[07:09] <LaserJock> does being a fridge editor require more than some knowledge of drupal and sticking to the CoC?
[07:09] <Burgundavia> don't even need an drupal
[07:10] <LaserJock> well, I'm running drupal on laserjock.us so I have some experience with it
[07:10] <Burgundavia> cool
[07:10] <beuno> more MOTU news would be absolutely great  :D
[07:10] <beuno>  also for UWN
[07:10] <Burgundavia> fire an email to fridge-devel asking for editing prvis
[07:10] <Burgundavia> indeed
[07:11] <LaserJock> OK, I'm more than happy to help out, especially with MOTU/Develpoment  related stuff
[07:11] <beuno> LaserJock: if you can handle it, we can add new a section to the UWN about MOTU related stuff
[07:12] <LaserJock> hehe
[07:12] <beuno> I think MOTU stuff is a perfect match for UWNs public
[07:12] <LaserJock> I need to take things slow
[07:12] <LaserJock> I've got a lot on my plate (currently trying to make core-dev)
[07:13] <LaserJock> but I'll see what I can do
[07:13] <beuno> aaalright, I'll just ping you every week and try to squeeze something out of you   :p
[07:13] <LaserJock> I'm hoping to get MOTU to do more reporting in general
[07:13] <LaserJock> beuno: that's a bit easier ;-)
[07:13] <beuno> I like the idea of having devs more involved in UWN   :D
[07:14] <LaserJock> yes, it does help
[07:14] <LaserJock> every once in a while I see some things that could use some technical correction/clarification
[07:14] <LaserJock> but in general I think UWN is great
[07:15] <beuno> I'm glad to hear that, although I do agree it can improve a lot
[07:16] <LaserJock> as everything
[07:16] <LaserJock> it's the nature of our community
[07:16] <LaserJock> there's *always* more to do
[07:17] <beuno> that's what keeps me up til 3am on a sunday  :D
[07:19] <LaserJock> mhm
[07:20] <LaserJock> and I'm excited about having a holiday tomorrow so I can work on Ubuntu
[07:20] <LaserJock> Burgundavia: ok, email sent. I'm not subscribed yet so it may need moderation
[07:22] <beuno> LaserJock: it went through
[07:23] <LaserJock> ok great
[07:28] <LaserJock> so who are fridge admins?
[07:29] <beuno> LaserJock: I'm not sure who the admins are...   Burgundavia and Vid for sure, but I don't know who else has super powers
[07:30] <beuno> some of us are editors  :D
[07:30] <beuno> Madpilot and nixternal, for example
[07:30] <nixternal> yo yo
[07:30] <nixternal> what do you need mr. Jordan?
[07:30] <Madpilot> I recently had editorship descend on me. Still not quite sure what to do with it, though
[07:31] <LaserJock> nixternal: *cough* editorship *cough*
[07:31] <nixternal> +1
[07:31] <nixternal> Burgundavia: ? mdke_ ?
[07:31] <beuno> that was easy  :D
[07:31] <nixternal> I am sure they will say yes anyways :)
[07:31] <LaserJock> Madpilot: write, I guess ;-)
[07:31] <nixternal> haha
[07:31] <beuno> +1 from me too, if that wasn't clear enough  :D
[07:32] <nixternal> oh ya, bueno is a fridge goof with us now ;p
[07:32] <beuno> I'm new to it myself  :D
[07:32] <LaserJock> hm, should be possible to have catagories in Fridge
[07:33] <LaserJock> wouldn't it be fun to have "Shelfs" in the fridge :-)
[07:33] <beuno> LaserJock: it does have categories, although I'm not sure they are shown in any way on the actual page...
[07:34] <LaserJock> hehe, just got an email from Vid, "The ed's hang out on #ubuntu-fridge, so
[07:34] <LaserJock> see you there"
[07:38] <beuno> that's odd...
[07:38] <Madpilot> many of us are, yes.
[07:38] <beuno> I've added an event to the fridge
[07:38] <beuno> the end dates are correct
[07:38] <beuno> but something just isn't right:  http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event/2007/06/28/month/all/all/1
[07:39] <beuno> nixternal: any ideas on why that happened?
[07:40] <nixternal> hehe
[07:40] <beuno> suddenly we have a VERY long meeting
[07:41] <beuno> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/996
[07:41] <beuno> start and end dates seem correct
[07:41] <LaserJock> sweet, I'm in
[07:41] <beuno> LaserJock: welcome   :D
[07:44] <nixternal> gotta use etc/gmt for the times
[07:45] <nixternal> you just found a drupal bug for the timezone you selected
[07:45] <beuno> heh, aaaalrighty then
[07:45] <beuno> maybe I should report that to drupal...
[07:45] <beuno> thanks  :D
[07:46] <nixternal> make sure you set those times correctly though for etc/gmt
[07:47] <nixternal> because as it stands, it interferes with the kubuntu meeting, which doesn't matter since the channels are different..but switching the timezone would make those times incorrect
[07:48] <beuno> ok, I'll move it to the actual time it's going to take place GMT, although that will bring all kinds of confusion
[07:48] <beuno> (specially since it ends up being July 1st)
[07:49] <beuno> er, june 1st
[07:49] <nixternal> hehe
[07:49] <nixternal> try to set the time again to the other timezone and see if it happens again
[07:49] <Madpilot> UTC confuses in entertaining ways
[07:50] <beuno> yes, I never get tired of people entering a channel and asking if the meeting is over 9 hours later
[07:56] <nixternal> LaserJock: you already go an account on the fridge and I just approved you on the list
[07:56] <nixternal> go? s/go/got which is wrong, should be have
[08:11] <LaserJock> nixternal: I've got the account and the list approval
[08:14] <beuno> ok, sent the UWN release story to the fridge, if any editor could review and approve it, I can go to bed a happy ubuntero
[08:16] <nixternal> yo yo
[08:18] <Madpilot> is "approve" or "promote" the right command? what's the difference?
[08:19] <beuno> approve
[08:19] <beuno> actually
[08:20] <beuno> "published" would be the correct option
[08:20] <beuno> brb, dog needs to do his thing
[08:21] <nixternal> published
[08:30] <beuno> nixternal: thanks
[08:30] <nixternal> no prob..thank you for the write up
[09:09] <LaserJock> ok, so are there any general Fridge guidelines laying around?
[09:11] <beuno> LaserJock: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/EditorGuidelines
[11:52] <mdke> nixternal: hi?
[07:19] <LaserJock> svaksha: pong
[07:25] <svaksha> morning LaserJock
[07:27] <LaserJock> morning/afternoon/evening to you :-)
[07:29] <svaksha> ...night is more like it :) actually
[07:30] <LaserJock> k, wasn't sure how that worked over there
[07:30] <svaksha> india
[07:30] <LaserJock> I'm used to Australian and European times
[07:30] <LaserJock> though I'm in the US
[07:31] <svaksha> -12 for me,
[07:32] <LaserJock> I'm -7
[07:32] <svaksha> utc ?
[07:32] <LaserJock> -12 would be nice, same time, just am pm changes
[07:32] <svaksha> eastern?
[07:32] <LaserJock> Pacific
[07:32] <svaksha> oh
[07:33] <svaksha> pacific == west coast, right
[07:33] <LaserJock> yep
[07:34] <svaksha> seattle /CA or is it texas
[07:34] <svaksha> time
[07:34] <LaserJock> I'm almost in California, Reno, Nevada
[07:34] <svaksha> yea, forgot the 5 timezones us has
[07:34] <svaksha> i remember eastern and texan times well
[07:35] <LaserJock> ok, so I had a question or two about Fridge
[07:35] <LaserJock> I don't want to flood Fridge and bump stuff down too fast
[07:36] <svaksha> shoot
[07:36] <LaserJock> but there are interesting things often in MOTU
[07:36] <LaserJock> how "big" should a story be to make it on fridge?
[07:36] <svaksha> and you want to write about it ?
[07:36] <svaksha> about 2 short para's with a link to the bigger story.
[07:37] <LaserJock> and my other question was where does that bigger story go?
[07:37] <svaksha> it should not be 500 lines that kills every other entry on the fridge :)
[07:37] <LaserJock> is it ok to have a node in Fridge for the bigger story
[07:37] <svaksha> if you have that on you BM blog, its just fine.
[07:38] <svaksha> see the story i linked to was a blog , http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/991
[07:38] <svaksha> after you write a story keep it in the queue and mail the list about it
[07:38] <svaksha> a second ed will do a onceover and post it
[07:38] <svaksha> that is the current procedure
[07:39] <svaksha> probably a node, but how big will it be ?
[07:44] <LaserJock> not very big
[07:44] <LaserJock> the thing in MOTU is there are often things going on that are just like a little email
[07:52] <LaserJock> svaksha: ok, so here's what I'm working on, so you can tell me if I'm nuts
[07:52] <LaserJock> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings/2007-05-25
[07:52] <LaserJock> the section "Regular MOTU Q&A sessions"
[07:53] <LaserJock> so I'd like to add an event to the fridge calendar for it and I'd like to do a write up so people know about it
[07:53] <LaserJock> is that outside the scope of Fridge?
[09:16] <LaserJock> ok, so I'm adding my first event
[09:17] <LaserJock> do I need to add it to the submission queue?
[09:19] <beuno> LaserJock: yeap, you have to leave it on queue and notify another editor
[09:20] <beuno> I'll take a peak
[09:20] <LaserJock> just a sec, I haven't added it yet
[09:20] <mdke> LaserJock, beuno: you don't need to leave events in the queue, you can just add them
[09:20] <beuno> okidoke
[09:21] <mdke> it's stories that you should ask for review
[09:21] <LaserJock> so event's don't need review?
[09:21] <LaserJock> *events
[09:21] <mdke> that's right. They are only two lines, after all :)
[09:22] <beuno> oooh, sorry, I completely ignored the "event" part
[09:22] <beuno> just do what mdke says  :D
[09:22] <mdke> the page we have for guidelines about stories is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/EditorGuidelines
[09:22] <beuno> mdke, btw, great idea on unifying everything under ubuntu-news  :D
[09:22] <mdke> it's a bit outdated though, we should work a bit on documenting
[09:23] <mdke> beuno: thanks for the positive response, I was a bit worried that it would get negative feedback
[09:23] <LaserJock> mdke: is there a clear statement of the scope of Fridge?
[09:23] <mdke> LaserJock: no, that page is the best we have right now, afaik
[09:23] <beuno> I think it would solve a lot of problems, and it's what really makes sense after all...
[09:24] <mdke> cool
[09:25] <mdke> if people generally approve, I'll try and write up a spec to plan it out
[09:25] <beuno> great, if you need any help, I'll be glad to give you a hand
[09:26] <mdke> thanks a lot
[09:26] <mdke> I will :)
[09:26] <LaserJock> ok, I'm creating an event called "MOTU Q&A Day" does that sound ok?
[09:26] <LaserJock> mdke: I think a spec would be good
[09:26] <mdke> sounds fine to me