[12:35] sigmamul88, ok, here is the $100,000 question. Is there a way I can disable the GUI in xubuntu for when I want this old machine to have as much speed as possible when it's just serving up web pages? [12:35] by "disable", do you mean "not start by default on boot", or do you mean "not have installed"? [12:35] Clarrisa_2008: that is over my head [12:35] Clarrisa_2008: but i know you can [12:36] ok, np [12:36] if you mean the former, then do this: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm [12:37] hey do you know how to start krusader so that it always opens up both pains at the /Root rather than the last place I was at? [12:37] crimsun, i think Clarrisa_2008 want it to not auto-load on boot, but be available if (s)he needs to use it === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [12:37] vidd, yes, how can I do that???!!! [12:37] it's a she btw === Tindora [n=tobias@81-232-95-138-no12.business.telia.com] has left #xubuntu [] [12:38] Clarrisa_2008, crimsun just showed ya: sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm [12:38] what dose the chmod g-x command do [12:38] well, that will prevent it from being started via init.d period [12:38] oh ok, sorry I missed that as I keep looking for replies in RED.... oops [12:38] or maybe it was p-x [12:39] Clarrisa_2008, there are so many posers on the 'net that you can NEVER be 100% positive [12:39] =] [12:39] crimsun, then how would I load it hwne I need it [12:39] I understand [12:39] type xstart [12:39] Clarrisa_2008: sudo sh /etc/init.d/gdm start [12:39] i think [12:39] then i was wrong [12:39] lol [12:39] crimsun, cool, I will try that at now.... [12:39] wish me luck [12:40] Clarrisa_2008: lick [12:40] Clarrisa_2008: luck [12:40] lol [12:40] '-) [12:40] sigmamu188, that BETTER have been a typo! [12:40] X0 [12:41] vidd: totally a typo [12:41] i'm thinking it was partially a typo ;-) [12:41] i think im going to blush [12:42] yeah right [12:42] ok, here it goes... [12:43] brb ----if ---it works [12:44] ok time to go get my go juice [12:44] coffee coffee coffee === Clarrisa_2008 [n=CLa20008@c-67-166-115-133.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:45] hey is everyone still here? [12:46] crimsun, before I try the command you suggested. I wanted to clarify something [12:47] you said sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm but doesn't that command just change the permissions of a file? I don't get how that would keep X from loading? [12:47] did I miss something? [12:48] yes....the file no longer has permissions to RUN === W8TAH [n=tholmes@dynamic-acs-24-154-99-156.zoominternet.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:48] oh wow [12:48] ok [12:48] so I could always chmod it back right? [12:48] yes [12:48] if I wanted it to auto load each time for some reason [12:48] somehow i think the -x isnt right :( man nor --help show -x [12:48] the sudo sh[..] command I gave you makes permissions moot. [12:49] so what would be the reverse of the doing sudo chmod +x instead of -x? === gnomefreak trusts crimsun [12:49] Clarrisa_2008, yes [12:49] gnomefreak, the -x is wrong? [12:49] Clarrisa_2008: i doubt it since its crimsun [12:50] " The format of a symbolic mode is [ugoa...] [[+-=] [rwxXstugo...] ...] [,...] . Multiple symbolic operations can be given, separated by commas." [12:50] gnomefreak, why does that matter that it's crimsun? [12:50] i cant remember the -x so i looked it up and man nor --help shows it [12:50] Clarrisa_2008, its like asking God if roses should be purple instead of red... [12:50] Clarrisa_2008: ive known crimsun a long time he is very very good [12:50] well not quite...but close [12:50] gnomefreak: second paragraph under DESCRIPTION of chmod(1) === ZenDJiNN [n=djinn@ABordeaux-156-1-22-245.w86-213.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu [12:51] ah i see it [12:51] Clarrisa_2008: the only reason you should trust me is that my key is in the Ubuntu uploaders keyring. [12:51] oh ok [12:51] I'm neither smart nor proficient, but someone else must think I'm one of those. ;) [12:52] now that we are on that subject, how can I check keyrings? [12:52] lol [12:52] Clarrisa_2008: gpg --list-keys [12:52] crimsun, that means you WRITE the stuff....right? [12:52] or leave off email to see all [12:52] oh ok... I've used gpg, only on the windows platform only... good stuff [12:52] vidd: it means nothing, really, other than what I said above :) [12:52] vidd: it means he can upload [12:53] brb [12:55] crimsun, can you recomend a asript to auto backup the contents of a specific directory and all it's sub folders?....like say a wb site? [12:56] script? Hmm, I don't know ones off the top of my head, but you certainly could use some combination of packages. [12:56] e.g., hubackup, rsync, cron, amanda, etc. === vidd goes of to do some research.... === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.221.99.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === Clarrisa_2008 [n=CLa20008@c-67-166-115-133.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:03] hey people! that worked great crimsun [01:04] excellent. [01:04] at first I thought it wasn't going to, because at boot up, I still saw the little xfce logo with the little mouse guy in the middle, and it had the progress bar going across, but after that was done, it just left me at the bash prompt [01:05] so does that mean it's still hogging up a ton of resources even though I'm not at the desktop? === cliebow [n=cliebow@cpe-76-179-82-249.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Clarrisa_2008 [n=CLa20008@c-67-166-115-133.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #Xubuntu === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-215.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:13] vidd come in the channel [01:13] On my channels to join irc.freenode.net I have: #ubuntu #xubuntu but it only joins ubuntu [01:13] what do I do to make it join several that I list [01:13] do you have xubuntu as auto join [01:15] jester45, the xchat I'm using just has a box in the connection properties for this network and it's labeled "Channels to Join: " and I have #ubuntu #xubuntu in it [01:15] jester45, the xchat I'm using just has a box in the connection properties for this network and it's labeled "Channels to Join: " and I have #ubuntu #xubuntu in it [01:15] but it only auto joins the first one [01:15] don't use whitespace as a separator. Use a comma with no whitespace. [01:15] e.g., #ubuntu,#xubuntu,#foobarblah,... [01:16] ok [01:16] Clarrisa_2008, in other words, #ubuntu,#xubuntu [01:16] o i thoguh you had gaim [01:17] jester45, hadn't installed gaim quite Yet === DanielBeaver [n=dan@rrcs-67-53-73-42.west.biz.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === Clarrisa_2008 [n=CLa20008@c-67-166-115-133.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:25] ok, this is weird, I seem to have some sort of lock up in xchat when I was trying to get out of it, and then I hit escape really fast 3 times or so, and when I did, the 3 icons that I had created on my desktop are gone [01:26] and what's even more weird, is that now after I rebooted, my right-click on my desktop doesn't bring up a context menu so that I can create new launchers... what is up here? [01:28] help anyone [01:28] what does come up when you right click? [01:29] nothing. nothing happens [01:29] can you [alt] [f2] to get the run box? [01:29] and those nifty icons I created for launching Terminal, Xchat and the File managers are gone [01:30] yes that works [01:30] go to applications>system>process manager...... [01:30] ok I'm there [01:31] is xfdesktop there? [01:31] nope [01:31] that is why.... [01:32] why would it disappear? [01:32] run xfdesktop from terminal [01:32] it sounds like it crashed [01:32] oh COOOL [01:32] ok it's all back [01:32] wtf [01:33] what did I do to screw it up like that? [01:33] is that one of things I should remember because it will most likely happen a lot? I don't understand why rebooting didn't start it up by itself. [01:33] not sure [01:35] I definately need to learn this GUI. It a lot less "pretty" than KDE and "gnome" but then again is much faster... so I will happily live with it.... I didn't know kde & gnome that well anyway [01:35] ok, one last question for me and i'm going to go take a much needed break from all of this. [01:36] how can I make a backup, of this linux box, so that if I every have to resinstall, that I have will copies of all of the config files I have changed (for apache, vsftpd, samba, etc. etc.) how do people backup their linux boxes??? [01:37] I can't afford a tape drive, this is a home pc [01:37] use a cd or dvd [01:37] and what's more I don't even know how a person backs up to a tape drive with linux anyway. I would want it to be freeware [01:37] and copy the directories with the configs in the [01:38] what if it doesn't all fit on one DVD? [01:38] use 2 [01:38] LOL [01:38] very funny [01:38] it shouldnt if your only backing up some configs [01:38] well, ok [01:38] Clarrisa_2008, its not a joke [01:38] I know, but I thought it was funny anyway, === Jester45 does not jest [01:39] but of course not ;-) [01:39] one dvd should be enough to back up your config files 20-30 times over [01:39] its really not that hard to use 2 dvds [01:39] what software do you use? [01:39] and secondly, the thing I forgot to mention is I am running mysql too.... what about backing that up [01:40] that's why I'd ideally like to back up the whole thing [01:40] until I got used to stuff that didn't matter [01:40] Clarrisa_2008, iwould be interested in getting a copy of your apache config files..... === vidd_laptop is having an issue getting cgi-bin to work correctly [01:40] vidd_laptop why so? because they probably really suck and you need some laughs? === crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #xubuntu [01:41] I have suffered through trying to get them to work correctly...I'm not an expert, not even a novice yet [01:41] but I have 8 domains working ok... [01:41] Clarrisa_2008, no...im sure you know LOADS more about servers then i do [01:41] I'm only using wordpress and gallery2... [01:42] huh???? you have got to be kidding... you have been teaching ME today here. loads of stuff [01:42] vidd has problems with simple things [01:44] thats the way this works...i give out what tiny pieces of knowledge i have been able to srounge together, so i can get the benifit of othersgreater knowledge! [01:44] all I have done is created folders under /var/www or /var/www-ssl [01:45] then under each of those I've created the folders called cgi-bin htdocs, & logs [01:45] do you have cgi-bin working? [01:45] so yes...you have TONS i can learn from === tich [n=bradley@bas3-montreal02-1096690709.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [01:46] vidd whats your connection speed [01:46] see that's where I'm going to sound like an idiot again. how do I know if I have it working?? I have wordpress and gallery2 working...they utilize php of course, and I'm assuming cgi-bin, but no idea [01:46] virison seems to be a fast isp [01:46] i have 768 upload [01:47] vidd shes not doing it the hard way [01:47] what is the hard way [01:47] not using tools to do it for you [01:48] i dont really mind eather way [01:48] Clarrisa_2008, feel like uploading your config files for me to examin and learn from? [01:49] ill give ya some ftp space [01:49] I could do that... but you'll have tell me which ones... I get lost as to where everything is stored... I have folders somewhere that have the actually apache configs... something called sites-available and sites enabled...but can't remember where they are [01:50] then upload your entire etc folder [01:50] =] [01:50] um.... isn't that scary for security on my part? [01:50] i dont see why..... [01:51] your passwd file is encripted..... [01:51] well I don't know...passwords, etc.... I'm a newbie here [01:51] but if you are worried about it, then dont upload it [01:51] well I want to help you... [01:51] let me see if I can find the files that will help you [01:52] just upload the apache folder [01:52] letme make you a folder [01:52] oh, there it is [01:52] I'm using apache2 [01:54] how would i edit fstab to mount an ext3 partition? [01:55] Clarrisa_2008, come to #unofficial [01:55] k === Ryfa [n=chrissta@c-71-204-21-51.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:56] tich: add line /dev/hdxy /mountpoint ext3 defaults 0 0 [01:57] I'm not sure about the meaning of the two numbers at the end of the line. But it should work. [01:57] i already have one ext3 (my home partition) adding this shouldn't interfere with that? [01:58] how do I write to a file in mousepad if I'm not logged in as root???? [01:58] Yeah, as long as the mount point is unique [01:58] which I can't login as root in this desktop thing anyway [01:58] in terminal, type sudo mousepad [01:58] use gksudo to start x applications as root, for example gksudo mousepad [01:58] oh ok cool [01:59] Ramla: how do i make sure that the mount point is unique? [01:59] Clarrisa_2008, you coming to get the info to upload? [01:59] yes [01:59] one sec [01:59] Ramla: could i paste my fstab? [01:59] Hello, I reinstalled xubuntu about a week ago on an old celeron machine and everything was working fine for a while, but now it locks up everytime the login screen comes up, it can autologin to a very restricted account and that is it [02:00] tich: check that no other mount has that mount point selected in fstab. [02:00] tich: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ [02:00] great thanks. [02:02] any cluehow to resurrect it without a reinstall? [02:03] Ramla: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22798/ [02:03] Have you checked that your home folder is all right? [02:04] I'm not sure what to look for, still somewhat new to linux [02:04] tich: yah, just choose the right device and partition and a mounting point for the partition [02:05] okay. i will repaste it when i have finished! thanks. [02:06] Ryfa: I haven't done a lot of debugging, so I don't know if I'm able to help much [02:07] are there any workarounds for this? [02:07] another way to switch accounts? [02:08] well you can log in in terminal if that's what you mean [02:09] well I need to get into my other account thru login [02:09] but because you have autologin enabled you can't? [02:09] the login screen freezes [02:09] when I logout [02:10] alright. well, try this.. go to terminal by pressing ctrl+alt+f1, log in with the desired account and write startx [02:10] in the restricted account correct? [02:11] restricted? you mean normal user? [02:11] user has no rights is my only access [02:11] auto logins to it [02:11] okay. that account then [02:11] press that when it logins to that? [02:12] umm, like when the logon screen is about to hang or has hung [02:12] ok, wait a minute [02:13] it freezes hard, half garbled display, mouse frozen and power button doesn't work [02:13] have to unplug to restart [02:14] oh. hmm [02:14] try to get into terminal before that happens, maybe it won't hang the whole machine then. or is it instant? [02:14] startx makes a fatal server error [02:15] I did it in the account I can access [02:15] the login screen is instant [02:15] Hm, maybe that's because there's already some x screen open. Try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [02:16] Ramla: would /home be acceptable as a mount point? or maybe a better question would be is the mount point a semi-arbitrary thing that i can choose or is it based on something that i (as of yet) do not understand? [02:17] Ramla: got in, now I can change my autologin I guess, any way to fix this problem? [02:18] tich: you can choose it to be /home. But hmm, actually I don't know myself what happens when you have the current /home content on the root partition and you mount something on it.. you could try copying the current content of /home to the partition you're going to mount as /home [02:19] Ryfa: yeah. [02:19] Ryfa: so the X works fine, it's just the logon screen that hangs? Sounds rather weird [02:19] yeah, but this computer seems to not like xubuntu [02:19] the last problem I had with xubuntu, it forgot it's version number, only some keyboard keys worked and it enlessly looped on startup [02:20] had to reinstall === ivandi [n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177919779.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [02:20] oh one more thing, how do I disable ACPI? [02:20] it complains on startup about it [02:21] Of that I haven't got the slightest idea [02:21] add acpi to the grub load command [02:21] it is capable of power management but it doesn't think so [02:21] add acpi=off to the grub load command [02:21] Ramla: i am getting the sense that i should do some more reading! i think i will look for some sort of basic terminology and concepts for partitions then do this. its like that pbs thing: the more you know! [02:22] Ramla: thanks for getting me this far though [02:22] Ryfa: check logfiles in /var/log/gdm/, maybe there's an obvious reason for the crash === ivandi [n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177919779.dsl.bell.ca] has left #xubuntu [] [02:22] i'll check [02:22] I got some errors loading fonts and some wacom stuff that gets autodefined in xorg.conf, so those are probably normal, but if there's anything else [02:23] got som errors here in that logfile [02:23] paste away http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ [02:24] can't paste it, this isn't that pc [02:24] Oh. well, any recognizable reason for the crash there? [02:25] looks like the errors are about my serial port [02:26] Have you got any devices connected there? [02:27] nope [02:27] error opening /dev/wavcom :success (EE) xf860penserial: cannot open device /dev/wavcom no such file or directory [02:27] Oh, that === Jester45 [n=ryan@d2-6.rb.ot.centurytel.net] has left #xubuntu [] [02:27] I have those lines too [02:27] oh [02:27] It's about some devices that get automatically added to xorg.conf [02:27] ok [02:28] then there isn't anything there [02:28] Okay, hmm [02:30] It can't really be an xorg problem either since you could start X after logging in.. [02:30] I think the only change since it last worked was a new dvd drive === ReMixx [n=ReMixx@r80h57.res.gatech.edu] has joined #xubuntu [02:31] more, I went to change the autologin and it failed to initalise socket [02:32] Can't imagine that causing it.. The best I got at the moment is maybe you could try reinstalling gdm - sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm -but- I don't know if it'll mess up gdm settings. [02:32] I can't even access gdm settings anymore [02:32] failed to initalise socket [02:33] o_O [02:33] happened after I entered sudo gdmsetup [02:34] i wonder what that means [02:34] Ryfa, maybe you should go and apt-get remove x11-common && sudo apt-get autoremove [02:35] Ryfa, then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [02:35] I'll try it [02:36] umm [02:38] some could not be installed...could have requested an impossible situation or using an unstable distro...highly likely the package is uninstallable... [02:39] on the first command [02:39] Ryfa, you using dapper? [02:39] 6.10 [02:40] oh also it updated some files after it last worked and before it broke [02:41] this seems eerily like last time I had a problem, it just slid downhill until it was impossible to use the computer [02:42] you might want to upgrade to feisty [02:42] you can get the net installer from my download site [02:43] http:// vidd.homelinux.net:8080/downloads [02:43] hey vidd do you use azureus with xubuntu? === kalikiana_ [n=kalikian@xdsl-84-44-153-74.netcologne.de] has joined #xubuntu [02:43] nope [02:43] whats the best way to locate a file? [02:43] oh poo, it's giving me problems :( [02:43] BFTD, which [filename] [02:44] vidd_laptop ok [02:45] which one do I download? [02:46] mini.iso [02:46] locate is better === ivandi [n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177919779.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [02:46] ok, the HDD is too small to be downloading big files === ivandi [n=ivandi69@bas5-quebec14-1177919779.dsl.bell.ca] has left #xubuntu [] [02:47] i like locate, but is there some search that would not require a database update run as root first (if looking for new files)? [02:48] umm, what do you want me to do with it? [02:49] what you do is burn it to disk, and use it to install [02:49] ah, I thought you wanted it to go straight onto the computer [02:50] sounds like your install is toast.... [02:50] yeah, and I have only been on it for like 10 hours sice last install [02:50] I think that is pretty sad [02:51] but you COULD try changing your /etc/apt/sources.list to edgy.... [02:51] then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [02:52] but i think you need to do a fresh install and turn off acpi [02:53] I added that to boot options and it tignored it [02:53] Would you suggest turning off acpi from OS or BIOS? [02:53] os [02:54] any attemps at turning ACPI off I have seen online has failed [02:54] on this pc [02:54] i think you need to do it from jump street [02:55] ? [02:55] when you install [02:55] by the way the PC is an old Jetway that has no record of ever existing [02:56] except on some russian site [02:56] Ramla: `find /path -iname foo` [02:57] Pumpernickel: that doesn't use any database? [02:57] Nope. [02:57] Aight. Kewl. [02:58] anyway what do you think caused that [02:58] bad ram...bad hd....dunno [02:58] ram is good, came from another computer [02:59] when I traded it [03:00] everything worked fine in 95b, quite odd === cartoon_nate [n=cartoon_@bas4-ottawa23-1177649761.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [03:00] hello... I'm wondering can i have democracy player without all those gnome dependencies? [03:01] I suspect the thing isn't copletely supported, not one component in it is common === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.221.99.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:02] except the ram, hdd, and fdd [03:03] is it a x86??? [03:03] nope, a no-name pentium II class celeron [03:04] cartoon_nate: i don't think so. but don't worry, gnome libs shouldn't hurt xfce performance too much, both use gtk [03:06] cd burnt, want me to boot from it? [03:06] yeah [03:09] Ramla: if anything... i just want to save 150mb of disk space [03:10] I'll be back === as7943 [n=tony@pool-71-244-49-18.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu === Ryfa is now known as Ryfa|AWAY === s|k [n=bjorn@ip70-171-201-121.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === CaT[tm] [n=cat@58.172.240.119] has joined #xubuntu [03:26] anyone point me to a url of xubuntu cd mirrors? [03:27] i have a couple iso;s on my site === CaT[tm] would like something stable to rsync off. currently using mirror.anl.gov but it only has a 16 connection limit and I seem to be hitting that alot === CaT[tm] grumble mutters. you'd think that a link on ho to setup a mirror site and where to suck from would b in the 'make it a bleedingly obvious page' category. [03:32] You can get a list of mirrors here http://xubuntu.org/get. [03:33] yeah. that sort of works. I'm hoping there is something that'd stop me from having to see which one of these I can rsync off === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.221.99.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu === gilang [n=gilang27@208.2.71.52] has joined #xubuntu === CaT[tm] givs up and just uses cdimage.ubuntu === gilang [n=gilang27@208.2.71.52] has left #xubuntu [] === mindframe [n=mindfram@ip68-106-174-142.br.br.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === mindframe [n=mindfram@ip68-106-174-142.br.br.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu === Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-6-59.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu === slyski [n=sly@71-90-79-21.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === LastMall [n=here@adsl-70-232-101-192.dsl.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net] has joined #xubuntu === Ryfa|AWAY is now known as Ryfa [04:49] ok it is installed, there isn't a GUI though === Jester45 [n=ryan@d2-6.rb.ot.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === danielbw [n=danielw@cpe-72-132-168-187.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:58] I have a user that called me and said they can no longer minimize apps [04:58] I am using the latest version of xubuntu [04:59] does that mean that the minimise action does nothing, or does that mean that the minimise action does something but the app cannot be restored to its prior window state? === aroo [n=justin@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [05:06] The action does nothing [05:06] I am going to go check it out later but wanted to know if anyone else ran intot his problem [05:07] before i went over there === rjian [n=rjian@203.111.235.139] has joined #xubuntu [05:17] hello wer can i get the previous version of xubuntu? [05:18] tonyyarusso: are u there? [05:20] anybody here? [05:22] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/ === slyski [n=sly@71-90-79-21.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu === lostboyz [n=aj@c-68-50-71-98.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:24] thnx Pumpernickel [05:24] np [05:24] does anyone want to tell me how you can change the themes with xfce-look in xubuntu? i installed to /usr/share/themes but i don't see it in the change user interface settings [05:25] Pumpernickel: do u have idea if xubuntu can run on PII 333Mhz 64MB Ram? [05:25] rjian: It can kinda walk... [05:26] hehe slow.. [05:27] Pumpernickel: ive download the dapper.. wat do u think? compatible? [05:29] Probably. [05:30] slackware seems running hopefully xubuntu will do also. :) [05:53] does anyone good at html [05:55] Jester45: aye [05:57] could you make a simple template for me? and vidd [05:58] somthing like this => http://vidd.homelinux.net:8080/pics/new_template.png [05:58] but with straigher lines [05:58] i would like 3 columns the center being about 70% of the page [05:59] and it would be nice if i could copy/paste new sections to the center column === vidd_laptop [n=vidd@static-72-86-132-215.phlapa.east.verizon.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:23] well thanks for the help, I think I can figure this out from here === big_area [n=big_area@r74-192-220-224.bcstcmta02.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #xubuntu === big_area [n=big_area@r74-192-220-224.bcstcmta02.clsttx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === Amon-san [n=Amon@e178247169.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #xubuntu [06:55] hi, i have a problem with the xubuntu livecd (7.04 i386) === Jester45 [n=ryan@d2-6.rb.ot.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:55] when i boot the desktop is visible [06:56] but the toolsbars are mussing [06:56] *missing [06:56] Amon-san: press alt + F2 and type xfce4-panel in the box then click run [06:56] Jester45: http://sheep.art.pl/misc/jester/ === CaT[tm] [n=cat@58.172.240.119] has left #xubuntu [] [06:57] i'll try asap, system is rebooting now [06:57] TheSheep: how about, vidd.homelinux.net [06:58] that is very nice though [06:58] Jester45: blank page [06:58] really? [06:58] Jester45: you wanted a template [06:58] ether or [06:58] i didnt really care [06:58] oh, and is it normal for a 800x600 tft not to center the boot animation? [06:59] the template is nice but i would of worked with your page, i just didnt know how to start it [06:59] i think vidd will like it [07:00] hes starting a hosting business [07:00] i get a free account [07:00] Jester45: well, just take the html and replace/add things to it [07:01] what html [07:01] the link i sent i chagned that all ready [07:02] all i need to do is the other 8 or so pages and wait for vidd to do all the user registration and stuff like that [07:03] 05:53 < Jester45> does anyone good at html [07:03] 05:55 < TheSheep> Jester45: aye [07:03] 05:57 < Jester45> could you make a simple template for me? and vidd [07:03] 05:58 < Jester45> somthing like this => http://vidd.homelinux.net:8080/pics/new_template.png [07:03] Jester45: ? [07:03] yea? [07:03] its like what i said [07:03] 3 columns [07:03] just i couldnt draw fancy things in xpaint [07:04] Jester45: I made it and uploaded to http://sheep.art.pl/misc/jester/ [07:04]