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ace_acehi all12:18
ace_ace!openoffice12:18
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org12:18
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ace_aceproblem: starting up OpenOffice (2.2) and clicking on 'file' freezes the machine, in the following way:12:20
ace_ace1. all processes go on their normal way12:20
ace_ace2. on my 3-head machine, I am stuck inside the screen that displays openoffice12:20
ace_ace3. the mouse moves stuteringly, jagging, very slow near the edges of the screen12:21
ace_ace4. I can not access any kde functions like taskbar, alt-tab, alt-f2, alt-esc12:21
ace_aceFrom a remote terminal I killed all openoffice processes, but that didn't help12:22
khaije1what do i need to do have my /etc/hosts file override the lan dns server?12:22
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khaije1I've already added order host bind    in host.conf12:22
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raulHello12:23
ace_aceI think it is hanging at the file->open dialog somewhere, maybe because of sshfs  or other stuff.12:23
ace_ace I had similar problems in Dapper12:23
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raulHello everybody!12:24
ace_acehello raul12:24
raulI have a little question12:24
ace_aceraul: always start with the question, not with 'hello'12:25
raulIs posible install ubuntu-desktop (aka gnome) in kubuntu from a "live" ubuntu cdrom12:25
adaptrand never, ever, admit to actually having a question12:25
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ace_aceadaptr: I have a question: why not? ;-)12:25
adaptrace_ace well, because I WON'T ANSWER IT :)12:26
rauldo I need the alternate cd?12:26
ace_aceraul: I don't now, but I guess that if you use the cd in your /etc/apt/sources.list, well then maybe...12:26
Sanneraul: only the alternate cd can be used as a repository12:26
raulyes I added with apt-cdrom add12:27
ace_aceSanne: oh yeah, allright... forget my answer,. raul!12:27
Sanneraul: the live cd has a slightly different package format12:27
Sanneace_ace: :)12:27
raulbut I didn't work12:27
ace_aceadaptr: what about my *real* question ?12:27
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ace_aceraul: you didn't work ?12:27
raulnot I want install gnome in kubuntu from the ubuntu cdrom12:28
adaptrace_ace open up a terminal somewhere and run dstat in it, then open up a second terminal and run htop in that12:28
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adaptrnow repeat the problem, and see what happens12:28
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ace_aceraul: Sanne said it dont' work with the live cd but it can work with the alternate cd...!12:28
raulif I typed sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop, aptitude start to download the packages12:29
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hitmanWillyraul: if you want gnome, why not just use the vanilla ubuntu cd?12:30
raulyes, I supposed that12:30
ace_aceadaptr: you mean, walk to a remote terminal, since alt-ctrl-f1 and friends dont' work :-(12:30
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adaptrwhy not ?12:30
ace_aceadaptr: I installed and ran htop, but what do you mean by 'repeat the problem' ?12:30
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adaptrexactly what I say - you state opening openoffice creates a problem on your machine12:31
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adaptrso reproduce that while you have appropriate auditing applications running12:31
ace_aceadaptr: why not!? Indeed ! Why not! Everything is frozen, I can not leave the OO app with my mouse, Alt-tab, alt-esc, etc etc all don't work.12:31
raulwhat's the "vanilla" ubuntu cd?12:32
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ace_aceadaptr: I was afraid that you wanted me to reproduce it.  But I am not so eager to use alt-ctrl-del or alt-ctrl-backspace12:32
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adaptrace_ace nonsense - SSH to the box remotely and kill OO12:32
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ace_aceadaptr: since i just setup all my desktops and lot's of open apps, and if i use alt-ctrl-del or alt-backapace, all that is lost12:32
adaptryes, well12:32
ace_aceadaptr: killing i did already doesn't help !!!12:33
ace_aceadaptr: is there another way to save the current session befor I nuke X?12:33
adaptrace_ace then check what *is* eating resources12:33
ace_aceadaptr: nothing is eating resources.12:33
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ace_aceadaptr: /usr/bin/X is at 99 or 100% but all the rest is under 4%12:34
adaptrace_ace how do you know ?12:34
ace_aceadaptr: i know because of top (now htop)12:34
adaptrso X is eating all your resources.. please don't spout useless drivel12:34
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adaptrcoincidentally, if X is at 99%, the most anything else can be at would be 1% cumulatively12:34
PunkunityI need to kow how to un-install Kubuntu and if it is safe, form my feisty OS???12:35
ace_aceadaptr: I have 3 screens, the left and right look fine, the middle is stuck with oo12:35
PunkunityI do not use/like it and should I use synaptic to do it??12:35
adaptrPunkunity if you mean the desktop, remove kubuntu-desktop12:35
ace_aceadaptr: I think you analysis is only valid for a single processor machine.12:35
adaptrPunkunity but be very careful what you delete12:35
Skiffguys silly question but I installed a plugin for xchat, where can I find the perl script file itself, I want to edit it manually ? locate x-sys doesnt work and I dont know how to search the whole system12:35
adaptrace_ace not really, 100% is 100%12:35
ace_aceadaptr: are you sure ?12:35
adaptrace_ace so you have 3 screens or 3 sessions ?12:36
ace_aceadaptr: I mean really sure ?12:36
adaptrI am very sure, multiprocessing is not the issue here12:36
ace_aceadaptr: 3 screens, a multihead machine, with Xinerama on. Works normallyh fine !12:36
Punkunityadapter how should I do it12:36
Punkunityadaptr,12:36
ace_aceadaptr: on a SMP top can be more then 100% I am sure about that12:36
SanneSkiff: you can see where the package files go in synaptic, I bet also in Adept, and on packages.ubuntu.com12:36
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SkiffSanne, thanks man:)12:37
raulfor unistall kubuntu? sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop12:37
adaptrace_ace "top" can do anything it likes, but your CPU usage will never be more than 100%, for fairly obvious reasons12:37
ace_aceadaptr: I had lots of issues with OO freezing right after 'file->open'12:37
Sanne<-- no man12:37
SanneSkiff:12:37
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SkiffSanne, do I need to index all files so locate works?12:37
adaptrace_ace I understood that, now kill X and *reproduce the problem* while running adequate monitoring tools like dstat and htop12:37
SanneSkiff: yes, I think you need to do updatedb after adding files, then locate should find the new ones12:38
adaptrSkiff you could also search for it, if you know its exact name12:38
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adaptrSkiff I think it's dpkg -S <filename>12:38
adaptror something similar, anyway12:38
raulPunkunity what do you need exactly?12:38
Punkunityraul I want to get rid of kubuntu from my feisty ubuntu, i do not like it there12:39
ianm_what's the biggest distro right now for KDE?12:39
raulok type sudo aptitude remove kubuntu-desktop12:39
Punkunityi only want ubuntu not kde and I want to keep beryl and my other stuff, i just do not use kubuntu, and when the machine boots up it says kubuntu12:40
Punkunityand i want it to say ubuntu because thats what boots up first12:40
Punkunityraul12:40
raulor remove all "kde" packages with synactic12:40
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SkiffSanne, heh sorry )12:40
adaptrianm_ whichever has the most packages, presumably12:40
Skiffadaptr, thanks12:40
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raulyes use synaptic12:41
raulsearch "kde" and remove the packages that you don't want12:41
Punkunityraul ty12:41
Punkunityraul i used the command line you gave me12:41
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Punkunitybrb12:42
raul?12:42
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Skiffguys if synaptec says that some files are installed into /usr/lib/xchat and when I brwose with nautilus to /usr/lib there is not xchat dir12:46
Skiffwhat gives12:46
adaptrwell.. not xchat, apparently12:47
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Aresilekhi12:47
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raulHi Aresilek12:47
Aresilekhow should i go about 'doing' mediubuntu?12:47
Skiffadaptr, hmm I needed to go another way through filesystem not through my other hdd12:48
SkiffI see it now12:48
Skiffthanks though12:48
Aresilekwhat should i donwload?12:48
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adaptrthat makes.. no sense whatsoever12:48
raulmediubuntu?12:48
adaptris that like in between bigubuntu and smallubuntu ?12:48
Sanne!medibuntu | Aresilek12:50
ubotuAresilek: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/12:50
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Aresilekyeah and i'm in i386 in non-free Sanne12:50
Skiffadaptr, last silly question, I need open a perl script file, I need to do it with sudo, so I right click to open with, then use custom command, so it would be "sudo ..." and then what?12:50
Aresilekwhat should i dl12:50
raulI have, think12:50
rauledit your source.list file12:51
adaptrSkiff not from within X, please just open a terminal12:51
SanneAresilek: you should best add the repository to your sources.list and get the packages via the package manager.12:51
AresilekSanne: actually that was my real question12:51
SanneAresilek: details here: http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repository.php12:51
Skiffadaptr, gotcha whats a good text editor besides nano12:51
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Aresilekis adding it to my repository the better way to go?12:51
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adaptrSkiff oh I thought you said you needed to open it12:52
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SanneAresilek: definitely, that's the preferred way to install software in ubuntu12:52
Skiffadaptr, sorry for misleading, just edit it12:52
Aresilekok12:52
MithsirHi. Is it possible that the Kubuntu feisty package KitchenSync is horribly old?12:52
adaptrSkiff if you want to edit it in a text editor, use Kate12:52
raulpaste this lines in your source.list12:52
Skiffadaptr, but the command would be the same anyhow I presume12:52
rauldeb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free12:52
rauldeb-src http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ feisty free non-free12:52
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adaptrSkiff use kdesu when in X12:52
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raulwith sudo gedit /etc/apt/source.list12:53
raulor kate if you uses kde12:53
MithsirOr in other words: is there a kitchensync-opensync package?12:53
Skiffadaptr, thanks12:53
Aresilekdone.12:53
raulthen sudo aptitude update12:53
SanneAresilek: you should just remember that you have enabled 3rd party repositories and which ones those are.12:53
Aresilekwhy Sanne12:53
adaptrwhy is amarok in medibuntu ?12:53
crimsunadaptr: is it compiled with additional codec/tagging support?12:54
raulthat's is true, in fact adept update with that repo12:54
SanneAresilek: those are not officially supported any may give problems when you upgrade. So you would know which packages to uninstall *if* you run into problems. But mostly it works, have no fear :)12:54
hitmanWillyadaptr: i think its setup for extra codecs as well12:54
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Aresilekso now what do i do? sudo apt-get install medibuntu?12:55
raulmediubuntu works well for me (I have installed kubuntu)12:55
raulno12:55
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martin_alguien12:56
SanneAresilek: after you update you package list you can search for the packages you want to install, and install them. Not the whole medibuntu.12:56
hitmanWillyadaptr: amarok just uses the xine engine, so i don't think the extra codec support has to be compiled in, afaik it just depends on the packages for the extra codecs12:56
raulespaol? jeje12:56
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adaptrhitmanWilly so it's not a newer amarok version ?12:56
martin_sabe como instalar Beryl en kubuntu+12:56
Aresilekwhat if i want the whole medibuntu? i just have to manually install them all?12:56
raulmmmhhh... mira esta pagina12:57
hitmanWillyi don't think so...but ive been wrong before :)12:57
raulubuntuguide.org creo12:57
martin_alguien12:57
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raulno medibuntu is a repo like the main ubuntu server12:57
SanneAresilek: I don't know if they provide a metapackage that installs everything, search at the website for info. Otherwise, yes, i guess so. Medibuntu is just a collection of some most wanted apckages, no distro on it's own.12:57
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raulmartin mira en esta pagina, espera y la busco12:57
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hitmanWillyadaptr: they may label it newer so that dist-upgrade will download it tho...12:58
SanneAresilek: you aren't confusing medibuntu with ubuntustudio, by any chance?12:58
martin_ok raul gracisa12:58
raulmartin esta es http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Eye_Candy12:58
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martin_ok dejame lo checo gracias por la ayuda12:58
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Aresilekno, becuz i've never heard of ubuntustudio, what is it?12:58
innernautman I still can't get this12:58
raulahi esta Beryl para ATI y NVIDIA, esta en ingles pero creo q no haya problema12:58
raulok12:59
martin_ok12:59
innernautsystem sounds when I set it to OSS... but Amarok wont work...  if I set system sounds to anything else, everything else works but system sounds...12:59
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SanneAresilek: (please type my name so I get notified when spoken to) ubuntustudio is an audio/multimedia/graphics distro based on ubuntu.12:59
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AresilekSanne: so how's it different do medibuntu?01:00
adaptrerm.. actually, ubuntustudio is merely a program launcher for a bunch of AV applications01:00
rauland http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ is a PLF REPOSITORY01:00
adaptrand not too useful, at that01:00
Aresilekraul: what's PLF?01:01
SanneAresilek: as I said, medibuntu provides some most wanted packages that cannot be legally distributed with ubuntu. ubuntustudio is a distro for musicians and graphics artists.01:01
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Aresilekah01:01
raulmmmhh... that is01:01
Sanneadaptr: no, see here: http://ubuntustudio.com/01:02
adaptrSanne yes, see there, really01:02
nilesim thinking about purchasing an external hard drive. is it like a USB drive, where data would flush to the device only upon umounting it?01:02
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Sanneadaptr: it used to be a started script01:02
Sannestarter01:02
nilesor would the data write to the disk on the fly.01:02
adaptrniles a USB drive would be an external drive01:02
nilesi meant flash drive01:02
nilessorry01:02
nileslet me rephrase01:02
nilesim thinking about purchasing an external hard drive. is it like a USB drive, where data would flush to the device only upon umounting it?01:03
nilesopps01:03
raulmmmh?01:03
adaptra flash drive does not operate as you described, so it's kinda hard to discuss it on that basis01:03
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dr_willisJoy - got a $350 laptop for the wife with Vista (ugh) and have now spent an HR getting the wireless (so far NOT) working on it...01:03
nilesim thinking about purchasing an external hard drive. is it like a flash drive, where data would flush to the device only upon umounting it?01:03
nilesoh01:03
raulmaybe is a external USB IDE -box?01:03
dr_willisWhat was the improvements in vista supposed to be? heh01:03
nileswell i dont want to go out a buy one if data only writes to the device only upon umounting it.01:04
hitmanWillydr_willis: i think it was somewhat along the lines of 'these go to 11' :P01:04
adaptrdr_willis they have a list of about 20 points up somewhere, 17 of which are pure fluff, 2 of which are useless, and the biggest one is having all european governments in a tizzy right now because it's highly immoral :)01:04
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Aresilekadaptr: what 'feature' is immoral?01:05
adaptrniles no device existst which does that, so you should be relatively safe01:05
adaptrAresilek mandatory DRM01:05
dr_willisadaptr,  well so far im impressed.. "Can not connect to wireless network: reason - Unknown reason"01:06
Aresilek:-O01:06
dr_willisJoy!01:06
adaptrdr_willis oh the good old win98 days...01:06
dr_willisadaptr,  they got this love log reader and stuff.. but it dont know nothing either it seems. :)01:06
hitmanWillydr_willis: that's cuz you didn't buy the approved M$ wireless module :)01:06
dr_willisback to the windows method of trying random things and hope it works.01:06
adaptryou love log ? hey, I love log too, maybe we could sing a song01:06
dogatemycomputerhttp://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html01:07
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dr_willisThis thing MAY become MY linux laptop if it dont start behaving. :001:07
adaptrwell, $350 sounds like a good deal01:07
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Aresilekso what do i need to get to play dvds?01:07
adaptrI'd say spread th elove log01:07
zulemaI have a very strange problem, the CDROM got mounted as /media/hdd instead of /media/cdrom, and I can umount it, even as root01:07
dr_willisadaptr,  yea. one day sale. Its only a Semperon CPU. but heck it has a 15 screen.. so its ok for its needs01:07
Aresilekthe libdccs thing alone?01:07
adaptrAresilek usually, a player that does them, such as VLC01:07
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adaptrzulema unmount the device, then, and make sure you're not IN that directory01:08
zulemaadaptr: typo, I can't umount it01:08
adaptrzulema you're not reading01:08
hitmanWillyAresilek: you need libdvdread3 and libdvdcss201:09
raulAresilek install "libdvdcss" or libdvdread or similar01:09
adaptrzulema unmount the *device*, then, and GET YOUR ARSE OUT OF THE DIRECTORY FIRST01:09
zulemaadaptr: I'm not inside the dir01:09
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adaptrthen use lsof to verify that nothing is accessing it01:09
raulzulema use umount -l /dev/...01:10
hitmanWillyAresilek: the libdvdread allows you to play dvds and libdvdcss allows you to decrypt the encrypted ones01:10
Aresilekcouldn't find neither package01:10
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adaptrAresilek that's because Ubuntu may not distribute them01:10
hitmanWilly!dvd | Aresilek01:10
ubotuAresilek: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs01:10
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raulareselik mmmh... do you paste medibuntu repo01:11
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hitmanWillyAresilek: those links have excellent instructions01:11
adaptrin a rather bizarre turn of ancient history, the dvdcss code was ruled illegal and is now forbidden, even though everybody has it01:11
adaptrit's just one of those things01:11
AutoMatriXhello01:12
adaptrthe dvdforum is pretty much a laughingstock, css was so easy to crack it took them about 5 days or so01:12
raulHello AutoMatriX01:12
hitmanWillyadaptr: that's because of that stupid DMCA, but its out now, so it shouldn't be an issue, at least not legally01:12
raulAresilek read this page http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Eye_Candy01:12
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raulhttp://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability01:13
raulthe last one01:13
adaptrhitmanWilly oh ye sit is - the DVD consortium (made up of basically the entire RIAA and MPIAA cast) is the party enforcing its illegality01:13
hitmanWillyadaptr: if they want to take me to court for playing a dvd i bought on a computer i own, lrt them try it :)01:13
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adaptrhitmanWilly that is not really the issue, since they want to stop people from *spreading* the code - which is why Ubuntu can't include it01:13
Aresilek:-S01:13
raulAresilek what happens?01:14
hitmanWillythen just go to a canadian web hoster, post it there :)01:14
hitmanWillyor a nigerian one01:14
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adaptrthey do have the same laws about it, do you know who wrote the decss code ?01:14
Aresilekraul: 1 page at a time :-S01:15
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hitmanWillyadaptr: actually no, i don't01:15
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raulsorry is the last one01:15
dogatemycomputerwhere is Connical's main server located?01:15
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raulin fact is the same page01:15
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adaptrhitmanWilly it was a Scandinavian student, age 20 or so, and yes, he was certainly arrested01:15
klobsterso kernel upgrade to 2.6.20-16 changes /dev/sda BACK to /dev/hda?!?!?01:15
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adaptrklobster it just fscks them around, edit your bootloader config and you're good to go (I'm on lowlatency now)01:16
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phoenixbyrdapt-get is telling me these two files have errors and to 'autoremove' them, but when I do, it tells me they have too many errors and won't do it01:16
phoenixbyrdlibgnome-menu2 libgnome-window-settings101:16
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Aresilekraul why did you link me to beryl?01:17
adaptrphoenixbyrd and they're already downloaded ?01:17
phoenixbyrdI think so01:17
Aresileki think i'll get xine and vlc :-D01:17
hitmanWillyadaptr: yes, but it looks like he got off...no pun intended :P01:17
adaptrphoenixbyrd look in /var/cache/apt/archives01:17
klobsteradaptr: yeah, I guess I didn't have enough fun the LAST kernel upgrade.01:17
raulyes I make a mistake, sorry01:17
adaptrphoenixbyrd delete them by hand if necessary, but if they truly are borked then fsck your disk pronto01:18
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adaptrklobster that went painless here01:18
Aresilekok01:18
nahemothWhy do I get such kind of warning "http://rapidshare.com/files/11814171/Lock_Stock_And_Two_Smoking_Barrels.DVDRIP.XviD.D1.part7.rar.html"01:18
nahemothsorry01:18
adaptrwhahahaha01:18
adaptrred-handed01:18
nahemoth"./configure: line 3052: /usr/lib/tkConfig.sh: No such file or directory"01:18
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raulAresilek, vlc, xine and mplayer are the best players in the world01:18
adaptryou need tcl/tk dev packages01:18
hitmanWillyoh quick!! where's the mpaa when you need them!!! /jk01:19
Aresilek:-D01:19
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adaptrthey're *always* here01:19
hitmanWilly<_< >_>01:19
hitmanWilly8-O01:19
hitmanWillyoh noes!!01:20
BluesKajmplayer is tuck in small scrn size on my setup so i use kaffeine and it works fine01:20
hitmanWillylol01:20
BluesKajstuck01:20
nilesi would like a wireless PCI card.  what is recomended in the Linux world?01:20
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nilesas far as vendors01:21
nilesor chipsets rather01:21
raulniles visit a linux hadware database01:21
hitmanWillyniles: take a look at one you want on newegg or something, research it on google, rinse, repeat :)01:21
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BluesKaj!wireless | niles01:21
ubotuniles: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:21
raulniles look http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/01:22
BluesKajlist several cards in the documentation01:22
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Skiffanyone knows how to make a normal user list in xchat-gnome ?01:22
Skifflike in regular xchat01:23
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Aresileki can't find libdvdcss01:24
crimsunAresilek: ...in medibuntu?01:24
phoenixbyrdadaptr: it's libice-dev, but I don't see it01:24
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crimsun!info libice-dev01:24
ubotulibice-dev: X11 Inter-Client Exchange library (development headers). In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.0.3-1build1 (feisty), package size 54 kB, installed size 224 kB01:24
Aresilekhmmm01:24
crimsunwhat can't you find?01:24
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raulAresilek, probe sudo aptitude libdvdcss01:26
Aresilekcrimsun: i installed the repositery01:26
raulinstall...01:26
crimsunAresilek: did you update after you "installed the repository"?01:26
dr_williswee finially got  this cheap thing working.01:26
dr_willis'unknown error = Weak signal' it seems.. duh.01:27
rauldid you read tha http://ubuntuguide.org page01:27
raul?01:27
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BluesKajlibdvdcss201:28
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Aresilekyeah!01:28
Aresileklibdvdcss2 did the trick01:28
raulAresilek did you download the needed gpg keys?01:28
Aresilekgpg keys?01:29
raulok, let's begin01:29
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pirothezerodoes anyone hot swap sata drives in kubuntu or linux?01:31
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BluesKajhotswap ?01:31
nileshotswap, i believe is to remove a device with out having to turn off the machine01:32
BluesKajerr why do that ...?01:32
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nilesit's for convenience01:33
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samir85Hey guys, can somebody help me? I've backed up all my data on an usb drive and now I cannot mount it. I've elaborated my problem here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/735101:33
pirothezeroBluesKaj, so that you can store drives that dont need to be ran all the time and have longer disk lives01:34
pirothezeroand transfer disks from one place to another01:34
BluesKajyeah real convenient when ya lose components due to power shorts on mobos and other related stuff01:34
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MinatakuHeya, dr_willis01:35
nilesBluesKaj: my community college networking course, each student was assigned a hard drive to experiment on.01:35
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BluesKajsamir85, check this site : http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=24871101:38
samir85thanks, i will read it immidiatly01:38
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: still saving the world one person at a time?01:38
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BluesKajexperimenting with pc's one thing swapping drives with the power left on is not a safe practice.01:39
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kgxdoes anyone know how i can run a script from the command line as www-data01:39
samir85BluesKaj: i dont think this is related to it. my problem is, that the partition status of my usb drives is "hidden" and i need a a way to change this :(01:39
kgxsu www-data doesnt work01:39
adaptrkgx use sudo01:40
adaptrof course su works01:40
adaptrbut only root may do it, so sudo su www-data01:40
BluesKajnope nosrednaekim ...there's nothing good on TV tonite...everything is in repeat mode01:40
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adaptrthat's the summer for you01:41
kgxadaptr: what would the password be for www-data?01:41
adaptrkgx su does not require a password01:41
BluesKajtoo lazy to wash my car tonite01:42
MinatakuBluesKaj: It'll just get dirty again anyway01:42
adaptrkgx you have not tried it yet, go do it first, complain later01:42
kgxadaptr: i did. asks for passowrd01:42
adaptrBluesKaj you can wash mine01:42
adaptrkgx yes, of course it does, so enter it01:42
kgxadaptr: thing is, we have a cluster of servers with ldap auth. dont want to mess anythingup01:43
adaptrkgx how would you mess anything up by downgrading your user account ?01:43
kgxadaptr: ah, works as root...thanks01:43
adaptrand I think the correct phrase is "we would like to have a cluster of servers, but right now all we've got is a serious lack of knowledge" :P01:43
nosrednaekimyeah.. too much pollen out for anything to have th decency to stay clean01:44
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MinatakuJust wait for it to rain01:44
MinatakuInstant clean, no wasted water01:44
adaptrwell.. not instant01:44
kgxadaptr: more like im not a network admin but just a coder :p01:44
MinatakuClose enough01:44
MinatakuXD01:44
BluesKajMinataku, it's gonna rain anyway :)01:44
MinatakuBluesKaj: There ya go01:45
Minataku:D01:45
adaptrkgx then you should never have root access, period01:45
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raulok guys, thaks a lot for everything!01:54
M_Fatihhi01:55
nosrednaekimM_Fatih:  hi01:55
raulI wish you the best from Colombia01:55
M_Fatihhow can i downgrade a mp3's bitrate, i want to minimalize my mp3 files for my mp3player01:55
rauland see you!01:55
nosrednaekimbye Raul01:55
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BluesKajsamir85, have you considered using GParted Live CD partiton editor ...it may work in your case ..I think there is an unhide option01:59
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nosrednaekimM_Fatih: are you using audioKreator?02:00
samir85thanks blueskaj I will try that out :D02:02
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nosrednaekimKatapult is amazing102:02
DaSkreechYep02:02
nosrednaekim!02:02
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: and getting better02:02
M_Fatihnosrednaekim: no, i'm not using something02:03
nosrednaekimM_Fatih: do you have lame?02:04
M_Fatihyes02:04
M_Fatihcan lame convert a mp3 file to mp3 file?02:04
nosrednaekimM_Fatih: "man lame"02:04
nosrednaekimread its manual page.02:04
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M_Fatihok02:04
nosrednaekimM_Fatih: I think it can02:04
nosrednaekimexcuse me if I just told you to RTFM.lol02:05
DaSkreechM_Fatih: eh?02:05
nosrednaekimnever told that to anyone.02:05
DaSkreechmp3 -> mp3 ?02:05
nosrednaekimDaSkreech: he's trying to downgrade the quality02:06
M_Fatihyes it can do it with --mp3input02:07
DaSkreechah02:07
M_Fatihbut i'm searching to set bitrate02:07
DaSkreechthat's a oft requested transistion02:07
nosrednaekimno the real question is...how do you get BETTER quality?02:08
nosrednaekim;)02:08
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M_Fatihnosrednaekim: :)02:09
M_Fatihbut it is too slow02:09
nosrednaekimM_Fatih: whats too slow?02:09
M_Fatihhmm. whatever..02:09
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M_Fatihlame is converting too slow, i'm converting ~10min mp3, it says 1.15min to convert02:10
M_Fatihi think it's too slov02:10
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=== M_Fatih done, trying
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: I forget how well sarcasm comes across the internet02:10
nosrednaekimM_Fatih: thats not slow!02:10
nosrednaekimDaSkreech: haha02:11
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phillipsAnyone have experience with USB scanners and sane?02:12
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Skiffguys any1 knows how to edit fonttype  for the TABs in XCHAT, it doesnt use the textbox one and I want it to..02:15
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stdinuse konversation, xchat is pants02:16
nosrednaekimSkiff: is Xchat written in gtk?02:16
Skiffdont know02:16
SlimeyPeteit is, iirc02:16
stdinxchat is GTK02:17
Skiffok02:17
Skiffthen?02:17
wolferineis pants?02:17
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wolferinelol02:17
stdinwell it is :p02:17
stdincompaired to konversation anyway02:17
Skiffhow do I change the tab fonts02:17
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Skiffstdin you like koversations better?02:17
SlimeyPeteirssi + screen ftw02:18
stdinkonversation is a great IRC client02:18
stdin(in a GUI)02:18
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nosrednaekimSkiff you have to apply KDE them to GTK apps,and then it will mimic your KDE theme02:18
hitmanWillybah...irssi :)02:18
Skiffdamn I jsut checked out konversations02:19
Skiffindeed its nice02:19
stdinit puts xchat to shame02:19
Skiffdefinitely does lol02:19
stdinall fonts are configurable too02:19
nosrednaekimI use GAIM so of course I have no clue about the difference..lol02:19
Skiffdont know how fast and reliable it is though02:19
Skiffxchat is superfast :)02:19
stdinfast, yes, reliable, for sure02:19
Skiffnice02:20
SkiffI think Im switching :)02:20
stdinI've has konversation running for days before02:20
DaSkreechSkiff: do you have need for heavy scripting in IRC?02:20
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stdinno performance issues02:20
SkiffDaSkreech, nope02:20
DaSkreechKonversation will do you02:20
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SkiffDaSkreech, I just like to have the plugin available02:20
DaSkreechalt+space -> konv -> <enter>02:20
Skifflike sysinfo/xmms outputs02:20
Skiffthe regular ones02:20
DaSkreechSkiff: You can do /media in konversation02:21
busfahrerWhen I go to KControl and do "Defaults" in the "Themes" section, I lose all icons, for example in the KControl tree, and in the Konqueror toolbar. However I do want the default Kubuntu style back. Any ideas, please? :-(02:21
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stdinamarok FTW :D02:21
nosrednaekim/media02:21
DaSkreechSkiff: and you can make up others as you go along02:21
nosrednaekimhaha.. GAIM doesn't have it02:21
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: Ha ha :)02:21
nosrednaekimI know kopete does (I can't stand kopete)02:22
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: konversation :)02:22
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nosrednaekimyeah I don't like stand alone IRC client I prefer all in one chat clients02:22
hitmanWillyhmmm, doesn't work in irssi for some reason :P02:22
DaSkreechso you use GAIM just for IRC?02:22
stdingame isn't a irc client02:23
DaSkreechdoesn't that make it stand alone :-P02:23
Skiffthank you guys02:23
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DaSkreechSkiff; you can pay us later :)02:23
stdinwelcome to the konversation krew :)02:23
skiff_Willdo02:23
DaSkreechwelkome!02:23
nosrednaekimDaSkreech: and for AIM, Gtalk and anything elese i might need02:23
hitmanWillyis it still gaim in the repos, or have they started calling it pidgin yet?02:23
DaSkreech!info pidgin02:24
ubotuPackage pidgin does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:24
nosrednaekimnah.. its still calledgaim in the repos02:24
DaSkreechgaim :)02:24
hitmanWillyguess so :P02:24
stdinv2.0 beta4 in feisty02:24
nosrednaekimbeta 6.. actually02:24
stdinopps, yeah :p02:24
skiff_I like gaim better than pidgin02:24
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hitmanWillyme neither, that's why i was asking :P02:25
skiff_Sysinfo for 'LinuxBox': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMDAthlonXP2400+ at 1996 MHz (3997 bogomips), , RAM: 401/503MB, 112 proc's, 6.20h up02:26
skiff_sorry02:26
skiff_just testing konversations02:26
skiff_damn is that ram in USE or free lol02:26
DaSkreechin USE02:27
skiff_cuz if thats used Im screwed ;)02:27
skiff_not to worry Im getting another gb02:27
skiff_for this box02:27
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dhiogjenARGH!!!!!!!02:27
mahdianyone know a good pdf editor?02:27
nosrednaekimskiff_: its used, but its also cached..02:27
dhiogjenim about ready to tear my hair out02:27
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: whats the problem.02:27
hitmanWillyskiff_: not necesarily bad, the kernel uses whatever it can for cacheing, and frees it as necessary02:27
nosrednaekimand don't do that.. it'll come out on its own02:27
stdinskiff_: most of that will be cache, just run "free -om" to see02:28
skiff_ah I see02:28
skiff_thanks again02:28
dhiogjenthe integrated graphics weren't working so i installed an old ati card i had.  and after reconfiguring xorg and installing the fglrx drivers, it still defaults back to the mesa inderect glx renderer02:28
dhiogjennosrednaekim: ^^02:28
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DaSkreechskiff_: nope Linux will use up all your RAM no matter how much you have02:28
skiff_DaSkreech: is there a ready to go themes for konversations02:28
DaSkreechUmm02:29
skiff_DaSkreech: nice to know ;)02:29
DaSkreechWell you can skin the user list :)02:29
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DaSkreechskiff_: Whats the point of RAM if you aren't using it? isn't that why you bought it?02:29
stdinyou can change the background too02:29
SkiffDaSkreech, Im looking for something DARK02:29
DaSkreechstdin: You can?02:29
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stdinyeah, of cource02:29
DaSkreechSkiff: looks like stdin can help you out02:29
SkiffDaSkreech, ok Ill play around see if I can make it dark themed02:29
dhiogjennosrednaekim: any clue what i should do?02:30
Skiffnice02:30
nosrednaekimskiff I'm using 600 of my 880MB, 387 of which are chaches02:30
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: you absolutely need 3d?02:30
skiff_cool02:30
gan|y|medhi02:30
nosrednaekimhi02:30
dhiogjennosrednaekim: yep02:30
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gan|y|medcan it be that a low latency kernel ends up being slower on desktop systems than the standard one???02:31
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: how old is that ati card?02:31
nosrednaekimwhats a low latency kernel?02:31
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DaSkreechgan|y|med: likely02:32
gan|y|medDaSkreech: do know why?02:32
gan|y|medDaSkreech: in theory, it should be faster02:32
DaSkreechgan|y|med: I guess cause it doesn't try to cache things it dumps as much as it can to make the next request faster02:33
DaSkreech since it's expecting it to be different02:33
gan|y|medDaSkreech: or not faster, but smoother02:33
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Skiffstdin is there a community forum for konversation ?02:33
DaSkreechwhereas a normal one tries to cache most oft requested commands assuming they will be called again in the future02:33
DaSkreech#konversation02:33
stdinSkiff: not sure, but feel free to join the channel ^^02:34
gan|y|medbut doesn't caching increase calls significantly compared to grapping it from the hdd each time?02:34
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stdinSkiff: Sho_ is the guy to talk to02:34
Skiffdamn guys you are the best02:34
DaSkreechgan|y|med: how can it if it's cached?02:34
gan|y|medso shouldn't this be what a low latency kernel does02:34
dr_willisHmm. I got a  USB drive enclosuer that also supports networking with "NDAS" mode. over the network. Never heard of NDAS befor. this supported under Linux as well?02:34
DaSkreechHDD == slooooow02:34
nosrednaekimHDD >=sloooooow02:35
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gan|y|medDaSkreech: i know, that's what i said. if low latency is meant to increase the responsiveness of a system, wouldn't it be logical, to assume a low latency kernel caches more than the normal one?02:35
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DaSkreechI would think it streamlines more02:36
DaSkreechgan|y|med: ask in ##linux02:36
nahemoth__How can I uninstal amsn 0.96 from synaptic??02:36
gan|y|medwhat do you mean with streamline?02:36
nosrednaekimnahemoth__: seach for it, right click on it and say remove02:37
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DaSkreechgan|y|med: drop the overall average time which means having a overall streamline not just for some calls02:37
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DaSkreechit's mostly used for constantly changing things like music or video02:37
dhiogjennosrednaekim: 2000 i would guess. it's a radeon 750002:37
gan|y|medok, i see. i got to read more about it. i don't understand a word you are saying :)02:37
hitmanWillygan|y|med: compiled with minimum options enabled to hopefully speed it up02:37
DaSkreechgan|y|med: this is just from my memory of theory. ask in ##linux they would give you a better and much more confusing explanation :)02:38
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: it should be well supported by the Open source drivers, and if its that old, it won't be supported at all by the fglrx02:38
dhiogjennosrednaekim: ok.... so what should i do?02:38
ace_ace(06:22:20 PM) ace_ace: ace_ace: problem: starting up OpenOffice (2.2) and clicking on 'file' freezes the machine, in the following way:02:38
ace_ace(06:22:20 PM) ace_ace: (06:20:19 PM) rebecca_ left the room (quit: No route to host).02:38
ace_ace(06:22:20 PM) ace_ace: (06:20:23 PM) ace_ace: 1. all processes go on their normal way02:38
ace_ace(06:22:20 PM) ace_ace: (06:20:38 PM) ace_ace: 2. on my 3-head machine, I am stuck inside the screen that displays openoffice02:38
ace_ace(06:22:20 PM) ace_ace: (06:21:06 PM) ace_ace: 3. the mouse moves stuteringly, jagging, very slow near the edges of the screen02:38
ace_ace(06:22:20 PM) ace_ace: (06:21:36 PM) ace_ace: 4. I can not access any kde functions like taskbar, alt-tab, alt-f2, alt-esc02:38
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ace_ace(06:22:20 PM) ace_ace: (06:21:59 PM) ace_ace: From a remote terminal I killed all openoffice processes, but that didn't help02:39
ace_ace(06:24:29 PM) ace_ace: in earlier days, this was probably due to gam_server but it seems gam_server is not running02:39
gan|y|medthx a lot02:39
gan|y|medi am asking. let's see if i can get my machine a bot faster...02:39
dhiogjennosrednaekim: using the default xserver ati option makes it so no program reccognizes i have a graphics  card02:39
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: say again?02:40
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KurtizGreetings. Trying to burn the DVD image ISO using CDBurnerXP Pro 3, but it complains that the image is too large even though the DVD media has more than enough space. Am I missing something? Should I try different burning software and if so which? Thanks for any help.02:41
dhiogjennosrednaekim: if i do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and select the ati driver, then none of the programs reccognize that i have 3d acceleration. so programs like blender and google earth dont work02:41
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nosrednaekimKurtiz: use K3B02:41
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KurtizChicken Egg my friend02:41
DragnslcrKurtiz- I'm pretty sure I used CDBXP to burn the DVD, so it should work02:42
DaSkreechnosrednaekim: You missed the name of the app he's using :)02:42
DragnslcrMake sure you selected "burn DVD" and not "burn CD"02:42
stdinKurtiz: k3b definitely02:42
KurtizOr does K3B run in XP?02:42
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gan|y|meddhiogjen: sorry to interrupt, but have you ever tried k3d with the ati drivers?02:42
DaSkreechstdin: read before answering02:42
DaSkreechKurtiz: It will one day :)02:42
dhiogjengan|y|med: i've never even heard of k3d02:42
dhiogjengan|y|med: what is it?02:42
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: ok.. gotcha. I think you have to do a special procedure with ati cards to get their 3d accel features02:42
DaSkreech!info k3d02:42
ubotuk3d: 3D modeling and animation system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.6.0.ds1-1 (feisty), package size 10606 kB, installed size 44312 kB02:43
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: cd burner02:43
nosrednaekimah.. my bad.02:43
dhiogjennosrednaekim: no, thats k3b02:43
KurtizYes I have to have the XP nasty on first as I hate to jump through the live CD stuff to reinstall GRUB after XP kills it02:43
nosrednaekimlol02:43
stdinDaSkreech: was typing before the message came, the curse of being on multiple channels02:43
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nosrednaekimKurtiz: ah.. you are in the land of restrictive copyrights...02:43
DaSkreechstdin: :-) Yeah02:43
dhiogjengan|y|med: ohj, that proggy02:43
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DaSkreechstdin: Nearly all support as well02:44
dhiogjengan|y|med: im pretty sure it wont work02:44
hitmanWillyDaSkreech: k3d is blender's idiot cousin02:44
dhiogjennosrednaekim: do u know the procedure?02:44
gan|y|meddhiogjen: it doesn't02:44
gan|y|medsegmentation fault02:44
gan|y|medsth with pangofont02:44
gan|y|medyou know sth about it?02:44
DaSkreechhitmanWilly: You too?02:44
dhiogjengan|y|med: nope02:45
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ace_aceHmmm after I left, an came back, my screensaver kicked in, and the middles screen still dispalys OO02:45
dhiogjenhitmanWilly: i hate blenders interface :\02:45
gan|y|meddarn02:45
ace_acebut the left and right screen show the kubuntu login screen!02:45
hitmanWillyive tried it before, don't really care for it...02:45
ace_acethis is *very* weird behaviour in my opinion,.02:45
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: unfortunately, no.02:45
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hitmanWillyk-3d that is02:45
dhiogjendoes anyone know how to get 3D acceleration working for old ati cards02:46
dhiogjennot indirectly02:46
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nosrednaekimdhiogjen: could you pastebin glxinfo?02:46
dhiogjenhitmanWilly: i dont like k3d much either.  i had a short puppy love affair with anim8or, but it's not linux compatible, and it's very buggy under wine02:46
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hitmanWillyhowever, i have been too lazy to really learn blender...02:47
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KurtizDragnslcr: I must have some option messed up then. If I use the Burn disk from ISO it goes through the motions but with in seconds (like 5 seconds) it's "done" writing. Trying to drag drop the ISO in the main window causes it to complain about the space02:47
dhiogjennosrednaekim: http://paste.debian.net/2913702:47
nosrednaekimgracias02:47
bacongreasehi all, have a newbie question, plz help02:47
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nosrednaekimbacongrease: ask away!02:47
dhiogjenyes, away from hear02:48
dhiogjenhere*02:48
dhiogjenjust kidding :-P02:48
bacongreasejust installed ubuntu 7.04 for the first time ever.  video card is xstasy 6954 (gforce 3 ti500), connected to LCD monitor by DVI02:48
NotFaintHeh, I came in here to ask if there was any chance that while compiling the kernel fakeroot might just not ever give the command line back to me and I'd have to manually terminate it, but then it finished.02:48
bacongreaseon graphics option, im only getting 800x600 and 1024x768, not my native monitor res (1280x1024)02:48
bacongreaseis it a known limitation of the packaged ubuntu driver & my vid card?02:48
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: now your /etc/X11/xorg.conf please.02:48
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nosrednaekimbacongrease: install nvidia-glx-legacy02:49
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hitmanWillybacongrease: the default (open) driver for nvidia is very limited02:49
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bacongreaseas a side note, i just replaced a radeon 8500le...that one displayed 1280x1024 on ubuntu, but caused crashing problems (fan was failing on the gpu)... so i made a completely fresh ubuntu install with this geforce02:49
dhiogjenbacongrease: i dont know how to help you. but i suggest if you end up failing, to use kanotix instead.  it has a reputation for being very compatible with a huge number of hardwares.  and automates most of the complicated install tasks you dont want todeal with in other distros02:49
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dhiogjenbacongrease: all in all, a good distro to start in02:50
nosrednaekimso is this so shut up... ;)02:50
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bacongreasei agree, it was incredibly painless...took me about 5 mouseclicks to install a new OS02:50
ace_acebummer... I tried to log in, and it worked, but now only the left screen and the right screen are knwo to X, and the mouse just skips the middle screen02:50
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dhiogjennosrednaekim: haha, i've been using linux for an year now, and each time i pop in ubuntu, i get a headache in return02:50
bacongreasea few years i tried getting on with redhat 6...whew ...made me compile kernels and etc to get my hardware to work!02:50
hitmanWillybacongrease: you're better off trying the proprietary ones from nvidia02:50
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nosrednaekimdhiogjen: this is kubuntu.02:51
dhiogjennosrednaekim: it's ubuntu with kde02:51
ace_aceI hit alt-ctrl-backspace and the machine definately hung,. I cold-booted and now I get a lot of ext3 journal replaying, but he middle screen is available again02:51
nosrednaekimbacongrease: yeah, install "nvidia-glx-legacy"02:51
ace_aceman this is getting worse than windows02:51
hitmanWillyactually, bacongrease, have you tried changing around xorg.conf?02:51
dhiogjennosrednaekim: anyway, this is for my grandfather, his windows broke :-P02:51
bacongreasehitman:  no, nothing yet...absolutely nothing02:51
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: xorg.conf please.02:52
dhiogjenhe absolutely needs google earth02:52
DaSkreechace_ace: Except you can actually find out what is breaking02:52
ace_acereally  I choose linux to not have sudden crashes and freezes02:52
hitmanWilly!xorg | bacongrease02:52
ubotubacongrease: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:52
ace_aceDaSkreech: howdy. Is that true ? My limited knowledge (linux since 1992) is not sufficient !02:52
bacongreasenosrednaekim:  where is this nvidia-glx-legacy, will it appear in the ubuntu installer app?  im at nvidia page right now... do u recommend it over the driver on nvidia website?02:53
hitmanWillybacongrease: try the link from ubotu up there02:53
bacongreasethnx guys02:53
wolferineevening :)02:53
DaSkreechace_ace: sure if you really want to find out. What drivers are you using?02:53
dhiogjennosrednaekim: http://paste.debian.net/2913802:53
ace_aceDaSkreech: I wanted to save my session, lots of desktops, open stuff and so, could I have saved the session some way ?02:53
nosrednaekimbacongrease: no it should be in adept or synaptic (depending on which you use)02:53
hitmanWillybacongrease: also, use stuff from the repos vice downloading whenever possible02:53
ace_aceDaSkreech: sometimes I get very tired. Do you think my problem has to do with... ughhh,,, drivers ?02:53
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ace_aceDaSkreech:  the 'drivers' all work fine, always. I think one is nv, one ati and one intel (3 screens)02:54
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DaSkreechace_ace: I don't know but it may02:54
ace_aceDaSkreech: OpenOffice freezes when trying to file->open (this has been a problem since dapper)02:54
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: I BELIEVE you have to have a 'Load "drm"'  in that list of modules, but I don't remember where02:54
DaSkreechWell those are all open source so you are in good company :)02:54
dhiogjennosrednaekim: hmmmm02:55
jovinoHello02:55
dhiogjenanyone agree with nosrednaekim theory?02:55
ace_aceDaSkreech: and from then on I can not get my mous out ofe the screen that OO is in, I am 'stuck' in that screen02:55
dhiogjenor no more about it?02:55
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: lemme see what I can google up...02:55
dhiogjennosrednaekim: cool02:55
ace_aceDaSkreech:  and NOTHING gets me out of that - alt-esc, alt-tab, alt-ctrl-f102:55
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ace_aceDaSkreech: but I can rmeote loging to the machine!02:55
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ace_aceDaSkreech: for me, looks like NOT a driver problem, what do you think !?02:56
DaSkreechace_ace: Yeah that doesn't sound like one02:56
DaSkreech have you tried to open OO from the command line?02:56
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ace_aceDaSkreech: I could alt-backspace but didn't want that becaus3e open stuff ....02:56
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: ok.. getting some good stuff02:57
ace_aceDaSkreech: from the cmd ? While the problem was happening ? The problem happen onlyh sometimes02:57
DaSkreechif you can remote connect just kill openoffice02:57
ace_aceDaSkreech: tried that, did NOT work. Tel you what: even when the screensaver kicked in, that middle screen kept dispalying OO.02:57
DaSkreechHmmm02:58
ace_aceDaSkreech: and when I hit a key and expected to see my screen saver password dialog, I got.... the Kubuntu login screen!02:58
dhiogjennosrednaekim: hahaha, you remind me of a really awesome robot02:58
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ace_aceDaSkreech: apparently X restarted itself !02:58
DaSkreech!xinerama02:58
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead02:58
DaSkreech!Dualhead02:58
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama02:58
ace_aceDaSkreech: I use xinerama on the 3 screens!02:58
ace_aceDaSkreech: but after that login, only 2 screenw here used, and the middel STILL dispaluyed the haunted OO session!02:59
ace_aceI have !TripleHead02:59
DaSkreechace_ace: well look at that URL to see if there is a step you missed02:59
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: ok. ya just want to try it? put "load "drm"" in that list, at the bottom02:59
nosrednaekimnosrednaekim: you can always remove it02:59
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dhiogjenok02:59
DaSkreechace_ace: Well I know I would put that screen on the end to see if it is related to the Video card it's attached to02:59
ace_aceDaSkreech: everything worked fine for many mionths! It's definetely rto do with OO and File->Open !02:59
ace_aceDaSkreech: come on bro,03:00
DaSkreechOh03:00
ace_aceDaSkreech: Okay.03:00
DaSkreechI thought that this was something that happened more than a few times03:00
ace_aceDaSkreech: it's reallyh awonderfull systen: Kubuntu with 3 screens and 10 desktops !03:00
DaSkreechwhich version of OO.o do you have?03:00
DaSkreechI know the new release has fixes for xinerama03:01
ace_aceDaSkreech:  it did happen under Dapper too, sometimes, ALWAYS with file->open or file->save(as)03:01
dhiogjennosrednaekim: where in the list should i put this?03:01
ace_aceDaSkreech: Oo: the version tha comes with Feisty (2.2)03:01
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: just second....03:01
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ace_aceDaSkreech: should I look in kubuntu-dev or file a bur report ! (I just lost about an hour of work because of the crash)03:02
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ace_acebur=bug03:02
DaSkreechace_ace: OO.o didn't recover it when it restarted?03:02
ace_aceDaSkreech: it's not OO work I lost.03:02
DaSkreechoh!03:02
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DaSkreechYeah that sounds like a very valid reason to file a bug03:02
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-32015.html03:03
draikHow do I revert on an install?03:03
draikI keep having nspluginscan crash 8 times03:03
ace_aceThx DaSkreech!03:04
draikAny ideas how to remove whatever is causing the crash?03:05
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dhiogjennosrednaekim: that xorg.conf file look drastically different from mine03:06
dhiogjenlooks*03:06
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dhiogjeneh forget it03:07
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: yeah... why don't you just copy the "module" part?03:07
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dhiogjennosrednaekim: because i'm tired03:07
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draikHow do you force a removal of libpango1.0-0?03:07
dhiogjennosrednaekim: forget it , thanks for your help.  i'll just install kanotix on here03:07
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dhiogjenor if worse comes to worste.... windows03:07
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: ok.!03:07
nosrednaekim*gasp*03:07
dhiogjenhahaa03:07
dhiogjenalright03:08
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dhiogjenthanks again for the help03:08
dhiogjeni appreciate it03:08
dhiogjeng'night03:08
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: eh.. I didn't do anything!03:08
nosrednaekim and you03:08
dhiogjennosrednaekim: you tried. and i did less :-P03:08
nosrednaekimdhiogjen: lol.03:08
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bacongreasehow do i quickly change from current user to Root?03:12
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rstob911ctl alt backspace03:13
Jucato!sudo | bacongrease03:13
ubotubacongrease: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:13
dr_willisbacongrease,  clarify the phrase 'change' :)03:14
dr_willis fire up a terminal, sudo -s  - do rooty things in there.. close when done.03:14
bacongreaseso thats what sudo means... many thanks03:14
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bacongreaseokay, im doing rooty things in terminal (backed up xorg.cnfg), however, id like to use gedit to edit the file in the gnome graphics interface... cant save file there because im not root there03:17
kgxbacongrease: Super User DO to be precise ;)03:17
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lycus_seteshOk - I feel like a complete fool asking this, but where do I change the screen resolution of my desktop? I am using KDE 3.503:18
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Jucato!kdesu | bacongrease03:18
ubotubacongrease: In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo03:18
DaSkreechlycus_setesh: Alt+space -> System settings -> display03:18
Jucatobacongrease: also, we don't have gedit here, because that's a GNOME app. we use kate instead03:18
bacongrease!gksudo03:19
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use  gksudo , as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using  sudo <GUI-application> 03:19
draikHello Jucato03:19
Jucatodraik!!!!!!!!!!!!! long time no see!!!!03:19
Jucato:D03:19
draikLOL03:19
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aseigothe best way:03:19
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lycus_seteshSorry - was disconnected. Could someone tell me how to change my resolution in Feisty Fawn with KDE 3.5?03:19
DaSkreechRight03:19
DaSkreechlycus_setesh: Alt+space -> System settings -> display03:19
DaSkreechFox has bought themovie rigths for the Sims03:20
aseigostart kwrite; open file; fish://root@127.0.0.1 =) well, assuming you have a root password set03:20
Jucatolycus_setesh: System Settings -> Monitor & Display (repeating what DaSkreech said)03:20
DaSkreechI need some of that stuff they sniff03:20
aseigothat way you'r enot running the GUI as root03:20
aseigojust the file access03:20
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lycus_seteshJucato: I don't see a Monitor & Display section under System Settings03:20
illriginalHey guys, I'm trying to get a driver for my wireless usb adapter, and I'm gettin this error in terminal: http://www.pastebin.ca/51741303:20
Jucatolycus_setesh: you don't? as in the System Settings from K Menu?03:21
lycus_seteshJucato: Correct.03:21
DaSkreech lycus_setesh: Under Computer administration ?03:21
Jucatolycus_setesh: can you check if you have kde-guidance installed?03:21
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lycus_seteshJucato: I did not. I am installing it now.03:22
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Jucatoaseigo: unfortunately Kubuntu doesn't have a root password set by default. but that's a nice workaround :)03:22
Jucatoaseigo: is it safer than using kdesu kwrite?03:23
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aseigoJucato: definitely03:23
DaSkreechJucato: yeah03:23
Jucatotoo bad we can't make it work with sudo :(03:23
aseigorunning GUIs as root is just a very bad idea as the amount of auditing done on the gui toolkits and support infrastructure is very low03:24
DaSkreechJucato: Only that one document is open as root03:24
aseigoit also takes a lot less memory since you aren't loading a bunch of stuff specific to that other user (root)03:24
DaSkreechaseigo:  is that just cause? or can they be coded tighter?03:24
aseigoso it's safer and better on resources03:24
aseigoyou can also use it even when the machine is across the room. or the world.03:25
DaSkreechaseigo: also kio slaves FTW! :)03:25
Jucatobah! I can't make it work on Gentoo :P03:25
aseigoDaSkreech: interaction of the GUI (from x on up) is just insanely complex. the application code is pretty decent, but it's highly circumspect to run things as root03:25
aseigoJucato: you need ssh running as well, obviously03:26
Jucatoer.. right :)03:26
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aseigointerestingly, in kde4 we may well may be using a similar concept to avoid loading control panels as root for admin task03:26
richardinglishi everyone, i have just installed kubuntu feisty on a single hdd, which was previously completely used by xp and ntfs03:26
aseigoer, tasks03:26
DaSkreechaseigo: ok I'll think about that some more then ....03:26
richardingliswhen i was installing with ubiquity, i resized the partition, but i didn't give enough space to kubuntu03:27
aseigowe just started looking into using policykit for that instead... so faster loading admin panels with a -much- better security profile03:27
DaSkreechrichardinglis: Welkome to Kubuntu!03:27
richardinglisnot that i have installed kubuntu and am using it, is there any way to use more of the ntfs space?03:27
richardinglisDaSkreech: thanks! :)03:27
DaSkreech!ntfs03:27
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:27
DaSkreech!ntfs-3g03:27
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions03:27
gan|y|medany experience with the  Planet CCRMA kernel in ubuntu??03:27
DaSkreechrichardinglis: ^^^03:27
Jucatoaseigo: oh kool!!! and if we could somehow make that work for individual files, like what you demonstrated... wow :)03:28
richardinglishey, i don't want to just view ntfs, i want to resize the ntfs partition and add the space to my ext3 partition?03:28
richardinglisis that possible?03:28
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richardinglisi already have ntfs-3g installed03:28
richardinglisand i was just looking at qtparted03:28
richardinglisbut that doesn't seem to have any option to resize03:28
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DaSkreechrichardinglis: I think that ntfs-3g has a ntfs-resize03:28
Jucatoaseigo: kool! it works :)03:29
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richardinglisDaSkreech: http://qtparted.sourceforge.net/features.en.html03:29
richardinglisthat seems to suggest it resizes things? :)03:29
DaSkreechrichardinglis: :-)03:29
richardinglisbut i can't find out where! :(03:29
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fogwarwhat does everyone think about Dell and ubuntu? lol03:32
ace_suarestest03:32
lycus_seteshI think I wouldn't buy a Dell.03:32
lycus_setesh:-P03:32
lycus_seteshWell, new...03:32
hitmanWillyace_suares: test good :)03:32
ace_suareshitmanWilly: not really I need to register to do private msg, can I pm you to test ?03:33
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fogwarlol03:34
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dr_willisthe Dell Laptops seemed ok.. but the desktop box's seemed a little over priced.03:36
dr_willisBut i picked up a $350 laptop today.. so that may become my new Linux laptop soon03:36
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dwidmannfogwar: I'm actually thinking really hard about it ... might actually get a laptop from them (even though I previously didn't consider them) when I have the money03:37
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fogwaryeah i knwoo03:38
fogwarwhat a move though, ya know03:38
smithwHello everyone. I just installed Kubuntu 7.04 on my PC and I'm having some troubles with the Wifi. The driver seems to be working (since KNetworkManager can correctly detect the name of my network), but I can't connect. When I searched Google, most of the tutorials and how-to's I found were about getting the drivers, which it doesn't seem to be the case. There were only one page on Ubuntu Wiki (whose address I seem to have lost) whi03:39
smithwch explained a bit about changing /etc/network/interfaces, but editing that didn't work either. My Wifi network does not have a DHCP server, so I must configure IP, Mask and Gatewar manually, and it's uses WEP encryption, in "shared" mode. The access point (which is in fact a computer running Mac OS X 10.4.9) is perfectly accessible by the same PC when running Windows, so I don't think there is any problem with the server. What do y03:39
smithwou think I should try next to make it work?03:39
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hitmanWillywell, with Michael Dell taking back over, things might actually start improving around there...03:39
dwidmannlast time I looked at system76, a lot of the stuff was out of t he date ... what can I say, I'm picky about my hardware03:39
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NotFaintSo I recompiled my kernel, and got the deb packages, and installed those with dpkg -i, and rebooted, and it configured GRUB for it and everything, and the list of kernels is there in GRUB, and it looks like menu.lst is pointing to the right partitions, but I get a "can't mount selected partition" error no matter what kernel I select.03:40
dwidmann*out of03:40
Jucatoso it still won't continue?03:40
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hitmanWillydwidmann: i usually am, but for laptops not so much03:40
Jucatoer wrong windows sorry03:40
NotFaint(Something went wrong with my window here, did anybody get my last message?)03:41
hitmanWillyNotFaint: about the kernel? then yes03:41
NotFaintThe very one.03:41
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NotFaintThe kernel seemed to compile OK (not that I'd really know), and it happens no matter what kernel I select from GRUB, so I wonder if the problem is with GRUB.03:42
hitmanWillyNotFaint: are all the filesystem types compiled directly in or as modules?03:42
Zeelotheylooo03:43
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dwidmannNotFaint: probably grub, it might be pointing to the wrong partition, or the wrong drive03:43
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NivuahcI'm hitting a bit of a brick wal and wondering... would anyone be willing to offer me some assitance concerning dpkg?03:43
Nivuahc*wall03:43
MinatakuDamnit, dr_willis, you keep disappearing before I check back in here XD03:43
NotFainthitmanWilly: Well, I used the old .config to start from, so the filesystem modules or whatever are all as they were, as far as I know.03:43
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hitmanWillyok, that should be fine then, so yes its probably grub03:43
NotFaintdwidmann: menu.lst looks right, is there another file I should check?03:43
illriginalponingru im back!03:44
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Zeelotis there a way to put HDD icons of mounted drives on the desktop?03:44
dr_willisMinataku,  huh?03:44
MinatakuYay!03:44
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MinatakuI caught you this time03:44
dr_willisworking on my new $350 laptop!03:44
NotFainthitmanWilly: I did change some things, but not filesystem stuff, and the old kernel doesn't boot either, as further confirmation that it's probably GRUB.03:44
dr_willisheh heh03:44
Minatakudr_willis: Ah!03:44
MinatakuSpecs? :D03:44
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dr_willisspecial 1 day sale. Semperon 3000 cpu.03:44
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dwidmannNotFaint: well, you say it looks right ... even so, best double check, also checking in with the file device.map03:44
MinatakuAMD... no wonder it was on sale03:44
dr_willisminimal ram/hd/ but 15 in screen. For $350 - its ok.03:45
MinatakuYeah03:45
hitmanWillyNotFaint: did you switch the drive boot order in bios?03:45
dr_williswas reguallry like $60003:45
DaSkreechdr_willis: how much?03:45
Nivuahcanyone?03:45
Minatakudr_willis: Not bad03:45
dr_willisDaSkreech,  $35003:45
NotFainthitmanWilly: no, only recompiled the kernel03:45
DaSkreechNivuahc: Which wall ?03:45
NotFaintdwidmann: that's somewhere in /boot right?03:45
dr_willisits for the wife - this way i get my old laptop back03:45
DaSkreechdr_willis: inclusive of shipping? :)03:45
Minatakudr_willis: Say, how's the garage look? ( Don't mean to rush you, of course ;3 )03:45
dr_willisNow she has to learn to use Vista03:45
NotFaintI don't think it's a disk issue because I can mount from the liveCD just fine and it reads.03:45
dwidmann/boot/grub03:45
dr_willisDaSkreech,  got it at the store. :)03:45
Minatakudr_willis: The hell she does. Kubuntu it.03:45
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hitmanWillyhmmm, the deb may have screwed up grub...03:45
Nivuahcwhen I run dpkg --configure -a my computer locks up every time it gets to initrd.something or other03:45
dr_willisI should put kubuntu on it and tell her its the New Vista :)03:46
MinatakuHeehee03:46
NotFainthitmanWilly: How does that happen?03:46
DaSkreechNivuahc: hoard lock up?03:46
DaSkreechhard03:46
Nivuahcyes03:46
dr_willis'sorry honey - vista wont run AOL instant messenger. ya got to use GAIM'03:46
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Nivuahceverything freezes03:46
dwidmanndr_willis: thought it was pidgin? :P03:46
NotFaintdwidmann: device.map says (hd0) /dev/hda03:46
hitmanWillyNotFaint: debs can change around files sometimes03:47
dwidmannhm, so only one drive, hard to go wrong with that then notfaint03:47
NotFaintAnd AFAIK /dev/hda is my hd.03:47
DaSkreechNivuahc: you are installing a new kernel?03:47
NotFaintEr, wait03:47
NotFaintShould device.map include (hd1) /dev/hda1 and so on?03:47
NotFaintBecause if so, that should do it...03:47
NivuahcI did the update via Adept03:47
hitmanWillyNotFaint: yes03:48
intelikeyNotFaint syntax error03:48
Nivuahclinux-image-2.6.20-16-generic 2.6.20-16.28 is the last entry in the log03:48
Nivuahcand this is a fresh install of Feisty03:48
intelikeyNotFaint syntax error   hd0 = first hd    hd1 = second hd03:48
NotFaintintelikey: If I copy the current line in device.map and just edit the numbers, am I OK?03:48
NotFaintintelikey: oh, it's hd0,1 and so on then?03:48
dwidmannmmhmm03:48
intelikeyNotFaint not in the devices.map file03:48
NotFaintI guess I can kinda see how that would cause error 1703:48
NotFainterk03:49
dr_willisMinataku,  well so far vista has been failing miserably on its 'features' :) easy settings/file transfer wizard - FAILED... :)03:49
NotFaintOK, so do I or do I not have to add lines to device.map?03:49
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intelikeyNotFaint how many hd's do you have ?03:49
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Minatakudr_willis: Haha03:49
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NivuahcDaSkreech: the update via Adept locked up the machine and, when I got back in I opened a console and ran dpkg --configure -a03:49
NotFaintintelikey: One HD, 4 partitions (2 active, 2 in extended)03:49
dr_willisMinataku,  wireless wasent working.. failed with some " Failed: unknown error" :)03:49
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NotFainter03:50
NotFaint2 primary, not 2 active, hah03:50
intelikeyNotFaint then there should be one line in the devices.map file03:50
Minatakudr_willis: So verbose03:50
MinatakuXD03:50
NotFaintintelikey: OK, so GRUB is aware of the partitions on that device without me specifying, or is there another file somewhere I need to make sure my partitions are listed in?03:50
DaSkreechNivuahc: Hmm which update?03:50
intelikeyNotFaint grub is aware of what bios is aware of.03:51
Nivuahclinux-image-2.6.20-16-generic 2.6.20-16.2803:51
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NotFaintintelikey: Well, it was aware of the partitions before. So I don't think it's the BIOS, then.03:51
Nivuahcjust installed Feisty clean, today and ran Adept once logged in03:51
dwidmannnotfaint, so long as grub is aware of the partition types being used (and it should be), the only lines you should really need to worry about are in the menu.lst03:51
richardinglis_hey everyone, i am trying to resize an ntfs partition and then transfer that space to my ext3 partition - i have installed ntfs-3g config and progs and qtparted but am unsure how to proceed - does anyone know?03:51
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DaSkreechNivuahc: Don't know if it helps you but I almost never install a new kernel unless I need to :(03:52
NotFaintOh, wait, wait03:52
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DaSkreechdr_willis: any idea why initrd would lock up the machine?03:53
NotFaintI'm not sure I remember this right -- but is the first partition hd0,0, and the second hd0,1?03:53
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intelikeyNotFaint yes it is...    thus (hd0.0) (hd0.1) (hd0.2) in the menu.lst file with corisponding kernel/chainloader lines will boot what ever is there.03:53
hitmanWillyNotFaint: yes...03:53
NotFaintor is hd0,0 the MBR, and from there you have 0,1 is the first one that is a real partition or whatever03:53
intelikeynope.03:53
fogwarDaSkreech: hey man sory to bother but i havnt been able to conenct to my router or my printer i dunno ? lol03:53
hitmanWillyNotFaint: hd(0,0) is the first partition03:54
NivuahcDaSkreech: do you know of any way to clear this entry out so apt-get will work properly?03:54
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K1765Hey guys, Konsole says "nvidia-installer must be run as root", how do I login as root03:54
DaSkreechfogwar: can you connect to anything else?03:54
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NotFaintOK. So Kubuntu is on my second partition, and it's trying to load that from hd(0,2) -- so I change that to 0,1?03:54
DragnslcrK1765- you use sudo to run it as root03:54
hitmanWillyNotFaint: yes :)03:54
fogwaronly 2 things on my netwrok... i have internet connection tho03:54
DaSkreechJucato: Ping03:54
K1765ahhhh ok ty03:54
dr_willisMinataku,  heres a good message "My Music is a System Folder - and is REQUIRED for windows to run Properly - and can not be moved or renamed"03:54
dr_willisDaSkreech,  nope. sorry.03:54
m_K1765: "sudo nvidia-installer"03:54
JucatoDaSkreech: pong?03:54
fogwarDaSkreech: only 2 things on my netwrok... i have internet connection tho03:55
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DaSkreechJucato: how do you clear the list of things to be installed03:55
intelikeyNotFaint (hd0,1)03:55
Minatakudr_willis: HAHAHAHAHA03:55
K1765It says now, You appear to be running an X server, please exit X before installing.. what the heck03:55
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DaSkreechfogwar: can you ping the router?03:55
JucatoDaSkreech: clear? where?03:55
NotFaintWell, why would installing a kernel deb file change that? I'm perplexed. It didn't do anything but shift those numbers up by one. Everything else is configured the same. My WinXP install is still on the menu and everything.03:55
DaSkreechJucato: you know when apt crashes for whatever reason03:55
intelikeyNotFaint it didn't.03:55
Jucato!adeptfix | DaSkreech03:55
ubotuDaSkreech: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:55
DaSkreechyou install anything else then it completes the list?03:55
hitmanWillydr_willis: wow, thats really dumb...03:55
NotFaintintelikey: Then what changed?03:55
DaSkreechJucato: here's the thing sudo dpkg --configure -a causes the machine to lock up03:56
intelikeyNotFaint but installing a kernel will rewrite your /boot/grub/menu.lst03:56
intelikeyNotFaint that's where to look.03:56
NotFaintintelikey: Oh. Well I'll look out for that in the future, hah. Why would it rewrite it WRONG?03:56
JucatoDaSkreech: hm... :/03:56
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intelikeyNotFaint in some cases yes.03:56
hitmanWillyNotFaint: it was looking for the kernel image on the wrong (probably nonexistant) partition03:57
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intelikeyNotFaint it's not "supposed to"  but that's hardly worth the air it's spoken over....03:57
NotFainthitmanWilly: And since I didn't manually set that up before compiling it... ?03:57
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hitmanWillyNotFaint: it should be fixed now03:57
dwidmannhitmanWilly: NotFaint: Hah, does it to me all the time actually (because my motherboard is screwy)03:57
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hitmanWillynone of this make kpkg crap03:58
NotFainthitmanWilly: You mean ceramic magnets held over your hard drive in a special pattern?03:58
NotFaint:P03:58
hitmanWillyyes, then hit them with rocks XD03:58
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hitmanWillyugh, me makee kernel03:59
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DaSkreechJucato: initrd crashes the machine03:59
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DaSkreechintelikey: why?04:00
daaaman64anybody have any porblems with the kernel update I am being prompted about this morning?   I don't want any problems....04:00
JucatoDaSkreech: oh the new kernel? big trouble :(04:00
intelikeyDaSkreech why not ?04:00
DaSkreechJucato: right so how do you clear the list?04:00
JucatoDaSkreech: that's the only way I know of. you can also try "sudo apt-get -f install"04:00
NotFaintAlright, well, I'm gonna see if this works, and if it does, you probably won't see me until next problem. :P Thanks, all.04:00
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Admiral_Chicagodaaaman64: you can read the changelog on the kernel and see if you need it04:01
DaSkreechJucato: that still installs04:01
daaaman64Admiral_Chicago: ok I just don't want to have issues on my vacation. Thanks.04:01
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Admiral_Chicagokernels rarely break things, amd GRUB will let you chose an older kernel04:02
Minatakudr_willis: I upgraded my Macintosh Classic04:02
NivuahcDaSkreech: I tried --purge and --remove but both give dependency errors and refuse04:02
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: it is breaking things04:02
MinatakuAdded 2MB of RAM to it, for a total of 4MB of RAM04:02
dr_willisMinataku,  heh heh - i got one of those still :)04:02
strabesNivuahc: use force04:02
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: installing it crashes the computer at initrd04:02
dr_willisMinataku,  i want to put in an EPIA motherboard. and a little LCD screen.. but cant find one.04:03
Minatakudr_willis: Speaking of, is that garage safe yet?04:03
Minatakudr_willis: I had that idea today04:03
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dr_willisMinataku,  also not sure how to  get the original keyboard working04:03
MinatakuBut then, it's a fully working Macintosh Classic04:03
intelikey"kernels rarely break things,"   then why would there ever be a patch ?04:03
dr_willisMinataku,  been running around all day :)  not had time to get out there.04:03
MinatakuSo I don't quite want to do that04:03
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: can you expunge the list of things that are to be installed04:03
Minatakudr_willis: Heehee04:03
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: really? first I heard of a new kernel.04:03
dr_willisMinataku,  too many specialized machines. :) when i can use emulators. heh04:03
Minatakudr_willis: Just remember, you said I could have those Amigas... and anything else you don't want that I do :D04:04
MinatakuI'm up to 22 machines04:04
Admiral_Chicagoblah, I meant to say something different...04:04
dr_willisMinataku,  come mow my lawn and clean out the pool for me. :)04:04
MinatakuAlways looking for more04:04
Minatakudr_willis: Heehee, I said I'd pay shipping, at least ;304:04
dr_willisHOW can swimming Pools get so filthy...04:04
dr_willisit looks like a fish pond. :)04:04
Minatakudr_willis: Simple. Because you don't want them to.04:04
dr_willisCousian had TadPoles in hers..04:05
dr_willisthen had frogs...04:05
dr_willisthen dead frogs...04:05
DaSkreechthen hail!04:05
dr_willisThats not good for the filters.04:05
Admiral_Chicagodr_willis: offtopic Z)04:05
DaSkreechand gnats locusts and darkness04:05
MinatakuHaha04:05
dr_willisFrogbuntu!04:05
intelikeyDaSkreech and flys04:05
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MinatakuAdmiral_Chicago: If it's about me getting free old computers, it's on topic04:05
MinatakuXD04:05
dr_willisHeh.04:06
Minatakudr_willis: Heehee, sorry, I get excited04:06
angasulekonqueror seems to display gmail.com as xml text, not html, anyone experienced this?04:06
MinatakuI don't have any Amigas yet, and they're incredibly hard to find04:06
dr_willisthey are?04:06
MinatakuAround here, anyway04:06
dr_willisebay had tons last i looked.04:06
MinatakuBah... eBay pisses me off04:06
MinatakuMore specifically, people outbidding me on eBay piss me off04:07
dr_willisnever bought anything on ebay :)04:07
MinatakuWhich is why I figured I'd just ask you for your "trash" when you clean out your garage :D04:07
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stdinMinataku: dude, -offtopic :p04:07
dr_willisi keep ebay away from the wife.. she would buy too much04:07
intelikeyonly shil's04:07
Minatakudr_willis: Heehee, I know I have to keep myself in tight check, too04:08
intelikeyor is that two l's ?04:08
dr_willisgmail seems to be working for me fine in Konqueror04:08
MinatakuI use Firefox, so, yeah04:08
dr_willisoh wait.. i spoke too soon04:08
MinatakuCan't help. Sorry. >.<04:08
DaSkreechhi Hobbsee04:08
DaSkreechNivuahc: how goes?04:08
dr_willisgmail mail page/newmail - looks like garbbage to me under Konqueror04:09
dr_willisthe page befor that looked ok04:09
NivuahcI've been trying to take out things one at a time and I'm about to try --configure again04:09
angasuledr_willis: same here :(04:10
Hobbseehi DaSkreech04:10
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angasuledr_willis: you think it's a temporary google hiccup?04:10
stdinhola Hobbsee :)04:10
MinatakuCould be04:10
angasuledr_willis: I just installed feisty so... I'm unsure04:10
DaSkreechHobbsee: Can you clear the list of of programs to install from apt04:10
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HobbseeDaSkreech: huh?04:11
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intelikeyDaSkreech aptitude maybe.04:11
MinatakuWFM in Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Gentoo04:11
DaSkreechintelikey: aptitude what?04:11
jasanthi every body04:11
intelikeyDaSkreech the program.      sudo aptitude04:11
DaSkreechintelikey: to clear the list?04:12
intelikeyyes04:12
BluesKajI like Opera's download manager. It has the ability to read and download pdf files that FF and konq can't handle.04:12
dr_willisangasule,  i think so04:12
angasuledr_willis: ok, cool04:12
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intelikeyi make you no promices DaSkreech but i think you can from there04:12
jasantopera is the best04:12
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jasanthola, algun latino por estos rumbos04:13
m_I'm having a problem with Ubuntu. I can't find the upgrade for "My Blender" in Adept. So I'm stuck on figuring out how many shots of tequila to put in the margarita. Should I just drink straight out of the bottle? Something like "sudo apt-get install guzzle" ?04:13
DaSkreechHobbsee: someone has a problem where installing a program locks up the computer04:13
BluesKajit's agood browser but it tries too hard to be like Netscape was in the 90s04:13
DaSkreechHobbsee: if they try to install anything it tries to complete the list of programs not yet installed which locks up the computer04:14
hakaisoum_  what?!04:14
K1765Who has installed a nvidia driver on kubuntu, if you have please private message me04:14
m_lol04:14
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m_hey, it's a holiday04:14
HobbseeDaSkreech: then they need to use apt-get remove --purge04:14
Hobbsee<packagename>04:14
DaSkreechNivuahc: you said you tried that?04:15
stdin!es | jasant04:15
ubotujasant: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:15
jasantopera is to useaful04:15
intelikeym_ 304:15
BluesKajtry this : sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a04:15
K1765"04:15
K1765You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before04:15
K1765         installing.04:15
NivuahcDaSkreech: I tried using --remove with dpkg04:15
DaSkreechBluesKaj: that locks up the computer04:15
K1765Oops..04:15
Skiffhow can I enabled my Audio (AC97) on NFORCE 2 mobo ? so I have sound in linux ?04:15
K1765What does this mean... "You appear to be running an X server"04:16
stdinK1765: use the ubuntu nvidia package :p04:16
DaSkreechNivuahc: oh. try apt-get remove <package name> --purge04:16
hakaisoum_:  screw the flash.  pound that bottle like a red headded step child04:16
K1765Where can I get it stdin04:16
stdin!nvidia | K176504:16
ubotuK1765: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:16
BluesKajhmm DaSkreech , it unlocks the pkg manager when there broken pkgs still trying to install04:16
m_only 3?!?  Can someone FTP me a straw?04:16
stdinK1765: read the link from ubotu04:16
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K1765Thanks04:16
DaSkreechBluesKaj: Right but installing the programs crashes the computer04:16
m_or an IV bag?04:16
hakaisouhold on m_04:16
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m_is this a non-smoking channel? cuz I'm lightin' up a cig04:17
intelikeym_ 204:17
ace_suares!ops look at m_04:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ops look at m_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:18
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ace_suares!ops04:18
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal04:18
BluesKajwell  run it and see :) ... if it crashes, , reboot ... won't harm anything04:18
m_lol - new kernel update deserves tequila on behalf of the devs - ops look at m_04:18
Jucatom_: please keep on topic04:18
nixternalhrmm04:18
m_you guys are no fun. I answer and help here. can't I inject some humor?  sheesh04:19
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m_free support - with a twist of lemon04:19
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stdinm_: or take it to -offtopic, and have a good chat :)04:19
hakaisouthere ya go m_  a nice bendy straw for ya04:19
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ace_suaresm_ how do I remove all files from /etc/X11/Session ?04:19
nixternalm_: please stay on topic or go to #kubuntu-offtopic04:19
lordofthepigsHey, the last kernel update screwed up the hda->sda transition04:19
lordofthepigsI mean the transition didn't happen for me04:20
Skiffdoes anybody have that onboard audio (ac97) that they were able to enable? if so how can i do it ?04:20
lordofthepigsbut the fstab was modified as if it did happen04:20
stdinK1765: Just follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-1549d676e3de65ec1342cf2c8e25df0d9745b5a704:20
BluesKajSkiff, is it listed if you do a 'lspci' ?04:21
hitmanWillySkiff: the ac97 uses the intel8x0 module iirc04:21
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SkiffhitmanWilly, what does that mean?04:21
lordofthepigsIt seems that the bugs.ubuntu.com suggests using UUID instead of hda, hdb to name the partitions: How can I find out the UUID of a partition?04:21
intelikeylordofthepigs so edit your fstab04:21
jayteelinHi - I *can't* seem to boot the kubuntu liveCD on a dell e1505 (ati graphics card and intel 3945abg wireless card).  I never get a screen.04:21
hitmanWillySkiff: that's the kernel module that needs to be loaded for alsa to use it04:21
intelikeylordofthepigs blkid04:21
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jayteelinwhen I hit ctrl+alt+f1, I can get a console04:21
jayteelinbut it gives an error when I try startx04:22
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SkiffBluesKaj, and hitmanWilly thats my lspci http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23014/04:22
linuxnoobmoin moin04:22
DaSkreechjayteelin: do you have X running?04:22
BluesKajac97 is merely a standard , it isn't a make or model of soundcard04:22
intelikeylordofthepigs blkid  reads the UUID's04:22
linuxnoob<--- hilfe beim installieren von kubuntu braucht04:22
SkiffhitmanWilly, how do I load it04:22
jayteelinno...I had to re-boot back into vista (yuck) to get back on the internet04:22
jayteelini'm currently using pidgin to get into IRC04:22
DaSkreech!de04:23
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:23
stdin!de | linuxnoob04:23
ubotulinuxnoob: please see above04:23
hitmanWillySkiff: with modprobe to test it04:23
lordofthepigsthanks intelikey, I'll try that04:23
intelikeylordofthepigs NOTE!  fstab is not needed to successfully boot a box,  if the issues is causing boot issues it's prolly grubish04:23
DaSkreechNivuahc: how are you doing?04:23
SkiffhitmanWilly, " modprobe intel8x0 module iirc " ?04:23
lordofthepigsintelikey: do NTFS partitions have a UUID?04:23
hitmanWillySkiff: no, hold on04:23
Skiffor just  modprobe intel8x004:23
intelikeylordofthepigs yes04:24
Skiffok04:24
jayteelinDaSkreech: Is there a 'shortcut' way to get into the liveCD04:24
DaSkreechintelikey: I gotta ask you something04:24
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intelikeyDaSkreech shoot04:24
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hitmanWillySkiff: try sudo lsmod to see if its already loaded04:24
DaSkreechintelikey: how do you get a linux install portable between machines?04:24
jayteelinDaSkreech: I read somewhere about a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org or something like that?04:24
lordofthepigsintelikey: It actually boots fine, just my NTFS partitions are not mounted properly anymore. The default fstab entries have been correctly updated during the kernel upgrate04:24
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lordofthepigsbut NTFS entries were not04:24
linuxnoobi become no support in /de- channels - can anybody help me here ?04:24
DaSkreechjayteelin: oh live Cd. did you try safe graphics mode?04:24
linuxnooball german gys sleeping ...04:25
TheCreationistHey, guys... got a problem here.  I installed the command-line only version of Kubuntu (since nothing else would work).  How do I go about installing the entire KDE environment from the CL?04:25
DaSkreechlinuxnoob: Ask your question04:25
jayteelinthat didn't work, either-  It still freezes at boot - x-server never seems to start04:25
intelikeyDaSkreech some fancy scripting aka "knoppix technology"04:25
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stdinlinuxnoob: ask your question, we will try to help04:25
DaSkreechTheCreationist: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop04:25
SkiffhitmanWilly, its not04:25
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intelikeyDaSkreech have a look at the way knoppix does it.   it's pretty awsum04:26
hitmanWillySkiff: can you pastebin the output?04:26
Skiffyes04:26
DaSkreechintelikey: I seem to remember being able to take my linux install and take it anywhere. Now it seems locked to this motherboard04:26
TheCreationistDaSkreech: I tried that, but when I entered startx, it said unknown command.  So I installed the package xserver-xorg, and now it simply says there are "No screens."04:26
linuxnoobi had problems to install kubuntu from bootcd - he boot and say "kernel alive - kernel direkt mapping tables to ...... " and than i have a blackscreen04:26
DaSkreechTheCreationist: Eh? :)04:26
DaSkreechyou have kubuntu-desktop installed ?04:26
SkiffhitmanWilly, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23015/04:26
TheCreationistDaSkreech: I installed the kubuntu-desktop metapackage (and all packages associated with it).04:27
TheCreationistDaSkreech: Do I need to reboot for that to take effect?04:27
BluesKajSkiff, nForce2 External soundcard ?04:27
DaSkreechTheCreationist: Yeah sure04:27
SkiffBluesKaj, yeah04:27
TheCreationistDaSkreech: Ah... didn't think of that one ;)04:27
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SkiffBluesKaj, well not external its built in04:27
jayteelini've heard that my issue is related to the ATI X1400 graphics card built-in to the e1505 laptop04:27
TheCreationistDaSkreech: I'll give that a try, I guess... but I don't see how that would help lol04:27
BluesKajaha Skiff , usb connected ?04:27
intelikeyDaSkreech yeah  the initramfs.img has a lot to do with that.   your kernel/initramfs.img pair are the key to mobility   and using UUID in fstab is good for that purpose04:27
TheCreationistI'll be back to yell at you when it doesn't work ;)04:27
SkiffBluesKaj, its those that are with the motherboard04:28
DaSkreechintelikey: It .. helps?04:28
SkiffBluesKaj, on the same board04:28
DaSkreech how does UUID help?04:28
intelikeyDaSkreech why did you have him reboot ?04:28
hitmanWillySkiff: i know, i have one, hold on04:28
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linuxnoobi had problems to install kubuntu from bootcd - he boot and say "kernel alive - kernel direkt mapping tables to ...... " and than i have a blackscreen04:28
DaSkreechintelikey: startx doesn't work :)04:28
SkiffBluesKaj, http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.21.html04:28
BluesKajok Skiff ...looks like you need to install linux drivers04:28
lordofthepigsintelikey: Do NTFS partitions have a UUID?04:28
intelikeyDaSkreech because UUID is writen in the fs   not hardware dependant.04:29
SkiffhitmanWilly, thanks04:29
DaSkreechlinuxnoob: the live cd or the alternate Cd ?04:29
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SkiffBluesKaj, thats what Im trying to do :)04:29
Assassin`!xgl04:29
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:29
lordofthepigsand how do I find out the exact kernel version I'm running04:29
DaSkreechintelikey: ahm ok Right got you04:29
linuxnoobkubuntu-7.04-desktop-amd64.iso04:29
intelikeylordofthepigs  you have ntfs formated partitions ?   (partitions don't have UUID's file systems do)    run blkid   and see.04:29
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DaSkreechintelikey: the initramfs.img now. what does that do?04:30
hitmanWillySkiff: ok, try sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 snd_ac97_codec04:30
DaSkreechlinuxnoob: it won't start normally?04:30
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DaSkreechlinuxnoob: did you try the second menu item?04:30
lordofthepigsintelikey: Yeah, I dual boot with windows XP04:30
lordofthepigswell... more like 1.1 boot with windowsXP04:31
lordofthepigsrather than dual :)04:31
SkiffhitmanWilly, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23016/04:31
Skifferror04:31
linuxnoobi become the installermenu screen - and than i click everyone (start or install) and 10 sec. after that i have a blackscreen04:31
jayteelinsoooo.... I'm going to assume nobody knows how to boot on a dell e1505, then?04:31
linuxnoobsecond meny item ?04:31
intelikeyDaSkreech loads modules (hardware drivers) so that the system can continue on and finish the boot process.     thus if the hardware changes (different box) the initramfs.img tests and loads the modules for the "new" hardware and the disk is then recognized and mounted.  thus you can boot without kernel panic.04:32
hitmanWillySkiff: ok, run dmesg and pastebin that04:32
linuxnoobi have only one menu with 5 or 6 points (install cd check and so ..)04:32
DaSkreechlinuxnoob: under start/install there is something else04:33
DaSkreechlinuxnoob: try that one04:33
linuxnoobdidnt know what you mean04:33
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intelikeylinuxnoob also there is     f1 "help"   at the boot prompt of the CD04:33
DaSkreechlinuxnoob: start/install is at the top right ?04:34
linuxnoobups- inderstand - yes there is somethink04:34
hitmanWillySkiff: it'll be long...04:34
SkiffhitmanWilly, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23017/04:34
linuxnoob7 points i think04:34
DaSkreechlinuxnoob: there is one under that04:34
DaSkreechlinuxnoob: choose number 204:34
linuxnoobmemorytest , cdcheck and others i mean ...04:34
intelikey[f1] 04:35
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DaSkreechlinuxnoob: there is one for safe graphics04:35
intelikey[f3] 04:35
DaSkreech I don't know what it is in de04:35
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TheCreationistDaSkreech: Didn't work04:35
DaSkreechTheCreationist: where did it reach ?04:35
linuxnoobyes - safe graphiks i have read04:35
DaSkreechlinuxnoob: that doesn' work?04:35
linuxnoobbut it have no effects i think04:35
intelikeyTheCreationist wasted boot.   now what do you need ?04:35
hitmanWillySkiff: ok, that's weird...it almost looks like an error in the module itself...04:36
linuxnoobbut i will go to test that ....04:36
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SkiffhitmanWilly, any suggestions?04:36
jayteelin.... I'm going to try an older version of kubuntu - looks like people have had better luck with that04:36
jayteelinbye :)04:37
jayteelin/exit04:37
hitmanWillySkiff: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa stop04:37
TheCreationistintelikey: I had to install Edgy with the command-line only option.  Now I'm trying to get the entire Kubuntu package installed (KDE, xserver, etc).  I tried installing both kubuntu-desktop and xserver-xorg, but I still can't get X to startup.04:37
jayteelindoh...04:37
hitmanWillySkiff: then try sudo modprobe snd_intel8x004:37
SkiffhitmanWilly, skiff@LinuxBox:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/alsa stop04:37
Skiffsudo: /etc/init.d/alsa: command not found04:37
intelikeyTheCreationist sudo apt-get install x-window-system-core04:38
Skiffok04:38
TheCreationistintelikey: Okay.  After that, then what?04:38
SkiffhitmanWilly, done it just return to ~ w/o saying anything04:38
intelikeyTheCreationist startx04:38
Skiffskiff@LinuxBox:~$ sudo modprobe snd_intel8x004:38
Skiffskiff@LinuxBox:~$04:38
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hitmanWillySkiff: ok, that means it probably loaded04:38
TheCreationistintelikey: Will that start X every time the system boots then?04:38
intelikeyno we'll deal with that after you confirm that xorg works propperly TheCreationist04:39
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hitmanWillySkiff: sudo lsmod | grep snd_intel8x004:39
hitmanWillySkiff: see if that returns anything04:39
TheCreationistintelikey: Okay, I'll be back.  THank you.04:39
SkiffhitmanWilly, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23018/04:39
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SkiffhitmanWilly, thats what I have loaded?04:40
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BluesKajSkiff, here's a page you might find informative as well : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)04:40
TheCreationistintelikey: It said that it is provided by a virtual package and that x-window-system-core has no installation candidate.04:40
hitmanWillySkiff: yup, its loaded, now run sudo /etc/init.d/alsasound restart04:40
SkiffBluesKaj, thank you04:41
DragnslcrSkiff- possibly stupid question, but what output are you using?04:41
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intelikeyTheCreationist ok did you run   startx  ?04:41
BluesKajinteresting tho...no mention of alsa in Skiff's paste ?04:41
Skiff$ /etc/init.d/alsasound restart04:41
Skiff-bash: /etc/init.d/alsasound: No such file or directory04:41
Skiffskiff@LinuxBox:~$04:41
ubuntu__:O04:42
ubuntu__WHOAHHHH!!04:42
hitmanWillyok, thats weird...hold on04:42
SkiffDragnslcr, output as in speakers? I use headphones, and whatever software came as default04:42
ubuntu__pssht04:42
ubuntu__im new to this04:42
DaSkreechubuntu__: Welcome to Kubuntu04:42
TheCreationistintelikey: No.  I figured if trying to install that package fail then it wouldn't make a difference.  The last time I tried running startx, it crashed with an error saying that there were "No screens," whatever that's supposed to mean ;l()04:42
BluesKajSkiff, needs to choose alsa in the system sound settings04:42
ubuntu__:)04:43
DaSkreechTheCreationist: a screen is a combination of a video card and a mointor/output04:43
hitmanWillyits been a while since i set this up in kubuntu :P04:43
intelikeyTheCreationist go try it.      the fact that it's "provided by a vertual package" means you have it.    so run startx04:43
TheCreationistintelikey: Okay, here I go again.... :P be right back04:44
intelikeyTheCreationist if it errors out with ""No screens," found~"04:44
intelikeyrun sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg04:44
intelikeythen try again.04:44
TheCreationistintelikey: Okay.04:44
SkiffBluesKaj, ok just did04:44
Skiffsame crap :/04:44
stdin!language04:45
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:45
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SkiffhitmanWilly, Dragnslcr BluesKaj when I click on the volume control it says no volume control gstreamer plugins and/org devices found04:45
hitmanWillyok, where is the alsa rc script in ubuntu? anyone?04:45
TheCreationistintelikey: Okay, startx gave the same error.  Running dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg says that xserver.xorg is not installed.04:46
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intelikeyTheCreationist are you using one console for irc and testing X  ?04:46
BluesKajSkiff, 'alsamixer' in the terminal04:46
TheCreationistintelikey: The same console.  I tried doing a CTRL-ALT-F1 to change consoles, but nothing happened.04:46
stdinhitmanWilly: in /etc/init.d/ like all the rc scripts04:47
intelikeyTheCreationist hehhehhe well   hit [alt] +[f2]    you are in tty1   so alt+f1 is here   alt+f2   is tty2 ....04:47
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hitmanWillythat's what ive been trying, not there or its named something really weird04:47
TheCreationistintelikey: So what should I try this time?04:47
Skiffskiff@LinuxBox:~$ alsamixer04:47
Skiffalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device04:47
SkiffBluesKaj, ^04:47
TheCreationistintelikey: Same thing just in a different console?  Should that really make a difference?04:48
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illriginalAnyone know if the new update is safe to download and install?!?04:48
intelikeyTheCreationist ok.   run this in tty2   sudo apt-get install -f04:48
intelikeyTheCreationist and yes it makes a differance.   you don't have to logout/in all time.  :)04:48
TheCreationistintelikey: Okay, that didn't report any errors to fix.04:49
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intelikeyok.04:49
illriginalAnyone know if the new update is safe to download and install?!?04:49
intelikeyTheCreationist check this one.    dpkg -l | grep xorg04:49
illriginalUsing Ubuntu Feisty04:49
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SkiffhitmanWilly, anything?04:49
intelikeyshould be a page and an half04:49
TheCreationistintelikey: It was at least that, yes.04:50
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hitmanWillySkiff: ok, im a little over my head here...ubuntu does things in strange ways and im not familiar enough with it to give you the help you need04:50
SkiffhitmanWilly, thanks man04:50
SkiffhitmanWilly, any help is better than none ;)04:50
hitmanWillySkiff: sorry, if this was gentoo you'd be up and running by now :P04:50
intelikeyTheCreationist i think you muxt have typo'd the reconfigure command.       sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:50
BluesKajSkiff, sudo apt-get install alsa-base04:51
intelikeymuxt habe.  no othwe explanatuib for it04:51
TheCreationistintelikey: Yeah, I think the last time you wrote xserver.xorg (period instead of -) :)04:51
hitmanWillySkiff: but the root problem is that its not loading the proper kernel modules for your card04:51
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TheCreationistintelikey: I'll give it a try again.  Are most onboard video cards just plain "vesa"?04:52
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intelikeyyep.04:52
SkiffhitmanWilly, gotcha thanks04:52
hitmanWillySkiff: or you don't have alsa set up04:52
SkiffBluesKaj, 1 sec04:52
hitmanWillySkiff: or both04:52
TheCreationistintelikey: Okay, I'll try again :)04:52
intelikeyTheCreationist if you want to see what your hardware is    lshw04:52
SkiffBluesKaj, sudo apt-get install alsa-base04:52
SkiffE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)04:52
SkiffE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?04:52
BluesKajhitmanWilly, he doesn't have alsa installed for one thing ..which is kinda strange since it's default04:53
intelikeyTheCreationist and you do know about   [shift] +[page-up]   in the console don't you ?04:53
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SkiffBluesKaj, its a fresh install04:53
intelikeyuntil you switch tty's (which clears the vidio ram) you can page up and read what scrolled.04:53
BluesKajSkiff,  do you have synaptic or adept or another terminal open ?04:54
SkiffBluesKaj, yeah wait04:54
hitmanWillylsmod04:54
SkiffBluesKaj, close it?04:54
hitmanWillycrap04:54
SkiffBluesKaj, worked04:54
TheCreationistintelikey: Okay, I ran the reconfigure program and tried running startx... still the same fatal error "No screens found"04:54
intelikeyTheCreationist ^ ^^04:54
SkiffBluesKaj, actually it didn04:55
Skiff0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:55
BluesKajok Skiff, sudo apt-get install alsa-base04:55
hitmanWillyi hate when that happens :P04:55
SkiffBluesKaj, yeah I did that04:55
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TheCreationistintelikey: I didn't know how to scroll, but now I do.04:55
SkiffBluesKaj, Im uptodate04:55
BluesKajok,' alsamixer 'in the terminal , again04:56
marcelolAnyone here already upgrade to 3.5.7 ?04:56
BluesKajyup04:56
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TheCreationistintelikey: I ran lshw, but I can't scroll more than about 5 pages worth.04:56
intelikeyTheCreationist ok.   lshw --class vidio    reconfigure with your hardware.04:56
TheCreationistintelikey: Didn't see anything about video.04:56
marcelolyou notice, BluesKaj that a lot of packages are now broken ?04:56
MinatakuTheCreationist: lshw | less04:56
MinatakuIf it's ever too much, pipe it into less04:57
MinatakuLittle protip for ya :304:57
intelikeyless is good.     but limiting to the class works too04:57
BluesKajno , marcelol , not really04:57
marcelollike for instance, Beryl's no longer listed in Adept, nor KDevelop04:57
MinatakuRight, but piping into less is gonna be useful all over the place04:57
SkiffBluesKaj, still says no such device04:57
intelikeyMinataku thus the first statement.04:58
marceloli.e. I did a fresh install, then updated to 3.5.7 before updating much of anything else...04:58
Minatakuintelikey: Heehee04:58
SkiffBluesKaj,04:58
Skiffalsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device04:58
MinatakuSorry X304:58
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TheCreationistMinataku: Thank you.04:58
MinatakuTheCreationist: np04:58
spacxcan someone help me with my friends' computer?04:58
TheCreationistintelikey: I didn't see anything there that would help me out with reconfiguring.  It simply mentions the onboard video board and a couple of other non-consequential details.04:59
MinatakuThis protip has been brought to you by a generous grant from Nobody and the support of Viewers Like You.04:59
BluesKajSkiff, sudo apt-get install dmix04:59
TheCreationistintelikey: And when reconfiguring, the video board listed in lshw doesn't have an option to be selected.04:59
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SkiffBluesKaj, couldnt find the package dmix04:59
marceloland what's weird is I get an error from us.archive.ubuntu.com under the feisty/universe component04:59
Minatakuhttp://s95018220.onlinehome.us/random/auximages/ << You've all seen my pictures of A/UX, right? :D ( Heehee, sorry X3 )04:59
intelikeyTheCreationist name of the onboard as revieled in lshw ?05:00
intelikeyrevealed05:00
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BluesKajSkiff, wow that's default ...are you runing kde or gnome desktop ?05:00
TheCreationistintelikey: Yeah, in lshw it's just 6 digit number (model number, I assume).  But that chipset isn't an option when reconfiguring.05:00
SkiffBluesKaj, gnome05:00
marcelolanyone else here running 3.5.7 ?05:00
SkiffBluesKaj, I also have kde installed05:00
BluesKajok, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:01
marcelolwho ? me ?05:01
SkiffBluesKaj, I have it installed05:01
marceloloh05:01
marcelolok05:01
SkiffBluesKaj, I did it less than and hour ago05:01
intelikeyTheCreationist system overload,  give me a sec.05:02
BluesKaj!codecs05:02
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:02
SkiffBluesKaj, did you mean KMIX?05:03
SkiffK instead of D05:04
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intelikeyTheCreationist the line    product:    from the lshw   what's it say ?05:04
SkiffBluesKaj, in the kmixer or in alsa it has blank for a mixer05:04
BluesKajno dmix is the little mixer that controls the master volume in the panel05:04
hitmanWillythis is weird...my kubuntu box has no alsa rc script in init.d even tho alsa works fine05:04
SkiffBluesKaj, yeah I have it05:04
BluesKajSkiff, check you repositories and make sure the #'s are deleted from the front of the debs... repostories like universe and multiverse05:05
Skiffbut its kmix in kde05:05
marcelolSo no one else had upgraded to 3.5.7 around here ?05:05
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BluesKajoh yes Skiff , correct ...sorry it's KMIX05:05
hitmanWillyi was wondering about that :)05:06
BluesKaj:)05:06
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BluesKajit's getting late here05:06
intelikeyhitmanWilly nothing odd about that.   the module is inserted by the initramfs.img most likely05:06
TheCreationistintelikey: 82865G Integrated Graphics Accelerator05:06
SkiffBluesKaj, hehe05:06
SkiffBluesKaj, ok the mixer is blank05:06
TheCreationistintelikey: Controller, not "Accelerator" sorry05:07
SkiffBluesKaj, just like in gnome05:07
intelikeyTheCreationist and the vendor: is?05:07
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TheCreationistintelikey: Intel Corporation05:07
BluesKajintelikey, but why would it be omitted in a normal install ... a blank kmix , never heard of that ..very strange05:07
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hitmanWillyintelikey: sorry, not used to doing things like that :P05:07
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strabes_Is possible in Konqueror save the profile view for only a certain directory?05:08
SkiffBluesKaj, dont know05:08
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BluesKajskiff, do you have synaptic installed ?05:09
SkiffBluesKaj, yes05:09
intelikeyTheCreationist there are several  i8* modules.   that's one of them.   so in the recongifure    look for   i8*05:09
TheCreationistintelikey: I only noticed an i810... I'll try that.05:09
BluesKajok try installing alsa-base from there05:09
intelikeyTheCreationist where * matches everything.     maybe  i810    just guessing.05:10
Gabz#konversation05:10
intelikeyTheCreationist also when asked about using kernel frame buffering.  just say on.05:11
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SkiffBluesKaj, 1 sec05:11
TheCreationistintelikey: the only i8* anything was an i810 (and I did say frame buffering on)... same story.05:11
intelikeyTheCreationist at the monitor section use the second   or the third option if you know the sync/refresh rates   if not use the second choice.05:12
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TheCreationistintelikey: Yep, tried all that with i810.  Still "no screens found"05:14
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intelikeyTheCreationist for the record.  the "no screens found" error means there is nothing in the configuration that can be used with your monitor.     it's not telling you that it can't find the hardware.   it's telling you it can't use the settings you specified with that hardware.05:15
intelikeyjust so you'll know.05:16
TheCreationistintelikey: Yeah, I figured that... just don't know how to get the configuration properly set up. :)05:16
ShadyTreestrabes_, yes05:16
TheCreationistintelikey: I would have preferred to just install the whole system right away, but all 6 of my different install CDs gave errors on this computer for some reason.05:17
intelikeyprobably the monitor/graphics card combo.   same reason it's not finding any screens now.05:18
SkiffBluesKaj, ok resintalled with a hwole bunch of other alsa stuff, still when I go to SOUND properties mixer is blank05:18
intelikeybut when you stumble onto the settings that do work make a backup of your /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:18
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TheCreationistintelikey: When installing, it was almost always errors about not being able to read files from the disc.  No idea why all 6 cds would have the same problem, though.05:18
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ShadyTreestrabes_, you there05:19
strabes_yeah05:19
intelikeypossably shared irq between vidio and hd  or some other screwy hw issue.05:19
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BluesKajSkiff, logout and back in again , then check the sound system settings05:19
ShadyTreestrabes, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30757605:19
strabesShadyTree: how did you do that05:20
SkiffBluesKaj, Ill restart05:20
ShadyTreestrabes, you have to do that to get the option to Save Settings for each folder05:20
strabesShadyTree: yeah how do i do that05:20
TheCreationistintelikey: So do you have any suggestions on how I can get Ubuntu installed on this system?  It's just a basic Dell-built, I would think it would be supported by either Edgy, Feisty or both.05:20
ShadyTreestrabes, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30757605:20
wolf23wb ardchoille05:20
intelikeyTheCreationist also worth testing the ram.   that can cause anomilies consistant with multiple hardware issues.05:21
TheCreationistintelikey: Just installed new RAM today :)  That's not a happy idea....05:21
strabesShadyTree: thanks. hopefully it works05:22
TheCreationistintelikey: Does the Ubuntu CD have a memory test utility on it?  Seems I remember that it did.05:22
dr_willisegads  my wife is driving me crazy.. set her up with a new pc.. and what does she spend the next 3 hrs doing.. Setting up her themes and icons.....05:22
ShadyTreestrabes, It does.  I did it05:22
dr_willisand wanting me to show her how to do it.05:22
dr_willis"No.. I want Solitare to be the WinnieThePooh Icon!"05:22
TheCreationistdr_willis: I've been there... I sympathize with you 100% :P05:22
dr_willisTigger is the  Tetrus game!05:23
dr_willisand shes learning how to use Vista...05:23
dr_willisand wants me to show her.. Ive never used it befor either! heh05:23
strabesShadyTree: on feisty?05:23
ShadyTreestrabes, yes05:23
ShadyTreedo this first05:23
TheCreationistdr_willis: Welcome to my world... I'm here trying to install Linux on a friend's computer because I've been raving about how great it is for days... now I've been here for 8 hours and STILL don't have a working system!05:24
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intelikeyTheCreationist if using vesa   and the simplest monitor settings.  640x480 @ 60Hz still says no screens.   then i don't know what to tell you TheCreationist.   as to installing ubuntu.  you are running it now.     your screen looks just like mine. :)      but my xorg will run yours wont...     and yes   testmem86+  is on the installed system.  should be a boot option.05:24
ShadyTreestrabes, create this folder  ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles05:24
TheCreationistdr_willis: Oh, and I completely removed her Windows installation because I was so confident in Linux... go figure.05:24
SkiffBluesKaj, nope same thing05:24
ShadyTreestrabes, then you dont need to download those 4 profiles05:24
BluesKajwhat's the normal mount point for the cd/dvdrom ?...mines says it's on /proc...is this correct cuz there's no indicator of a cd.dvd on the desktop anymore ...any suggestions ?05:24
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strabesShadyTree: that file already exists05:25
intelikeyTheCreationist you have a working system.  you don't have a working xorg.     big differance.05:25
illriginalHey guys, I have Ubuntu Feisty, and I Just got an update message, but it's for a newer version? It's a "ubuntu generic" update with a few other updates to go with it. Is it safe to download and install? Or should I wait to see if people have any problems with it?05:25
ShadyTreestrabes, ok05:25
hitmanWillyBluesKaj: usually in /media05:25
TheCreationistintelikey: *I* have a working system because I know how to use a command line very fluantly.  The problem is this isn't MY computer ;)05:25
ShadyTreestrabes, just follow the instructions in that post.  you need to do that05:25
stdinBluesKaj: the normal mountpoint (in (k)ubuntu) is /media/cdrom0/05:25
BluesKajok hitmanWilly , i'll change to /media05:25
TheCreationistintelikey: She's not happy about this "working" system, you know? ;)05:26
TheCreationistintelikey: Like dr_willis's wife, she wants pretty icons lol05:26
intelikeyjust cause my dog can't type doesn't mean my computer wont work     lol     sorry for the compairison.05:26
strabesShadyTree: inside /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share there is not a directory called apps. there are only three directories: config, icons, mimelnk05:26
TheCreationistintelikey: She didn't like that analogy ;)05:26
intelikeyi understand the "need".  not belittling the gravity of the situation.05:26
ShadyTreestrabes, dont even touch that folder05:26
illriginalHey guys, I have Ubuntu Feisty, and I Just got an update message, but it's for a newer version? It's a "ubuntu generic" update with a few other updates to go with it. Is it safe to download and install? Or should I wait to see if people have any problems with it?05:27
ShadyTreestrabes, just follow the instructions05:27
TheCreationistillriginal: If you ever have a doubt about installing an update, it doesn't hurt to wait.05:27
intelikeyTheCreationist tell "her"  it was only cause i didn't have a wife.05:27
strabesShadyTree: it tells me to remove a folder that isn't there in the first step....05:27
ShadyTreestrabes, then just keep going05:27
TheCreationistintelikey: So there's nothing else you can suggest for now?05:27
hitmanWillyillriginal: if its the 2.6.20-16 kernel, people have been having trouble with it, wait a little while05:28
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gan|y|medhi05:28
illriginalok cool05:28
ShadyTreestrabes, basically, all you need to do is   sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc05:28
strabesk05:28
gan|y|medi have applied a kernel patch and got a few rejections. just in general, are (or can be) those critical to functionality?05:28
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TheCreationistintelikey: Even more frustrating because the Live CD's loaded just fine...05:29
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TheCreationistI need a bloody cigarette.... brb.05:29
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SkiffhitmanWilly, nvidia has these driver for my nforce2 mobo so naturally it also has the drivers, maybe I should try theirs, but I wouldnt know how to compile them, check the link http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.21.html05:30
intelikeyTheCreationist just what a friend said.  "when but a lad his father had him spliting wood with an ax.   one large block of sweetgum he had hit many times with no sign of progress, turning to his father he said 'this one wont bust'.  who replied 'sure it will, just keep hitting it'"    just keep hitting it.05:30
Skiffalso drivers are only for fedora,suse and rh05:30
strabesShadyTree: ok i did that and restarted konqueror, where is the option05:30
ShadyTreeSettings05:30
PollywogI used qtparted to reorganize my partitions but now grub says error 22 at boot.05:30
ShadyTreeSave View Changes per Folder05:30
ShadyTreeis that option there now05:30
strabesShadyTree: the settings menu is exactly the same as it was before i copied over that file05:30
PollywogWhat is the best way to fix that?  Is there a way?05:30
PollywogI am doaloading the live cd now05:31
intelikeyTheCreationist i'm sure that in the   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  there is a workable combonation.05:31
TheCreationistintelikey: Pretty sure the last sentence was all that made sense and all I needed to hear ;)  But hitting it hasn't helped iether.05:31
Pollywogshould I just reinstall kubuntu?05:31
aldinanyone in mood to help me set mailserver postfix? i have account on dyndns.org, and have install postfix, put someusername.dyndns.org for MailName05:31
ShadyTreestrabes, did you copy and paste  sudo cp /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror-orig.rc /usr/share/apps/konqueror/konqueror.rc05:31
strabesyep05:31
strabesShadyTree: yet05:31
strabesyes05:31
hitmanWillyintelikey: since the liveCD is working, could he just copy over the xorg.conf from that? or is it some weird setup?05:32
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titanix88Anyone know a good tutorial about bash scripting?05:32
intelikeyhitmanWilly IF it is.05:32
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ShadyTreestrabes, I dont know.  Ive done this on all my fresh Feisty installs, no problem05:33
titanix88Anyone know a good tutorial about bash scripting?05:33
strabesShadyTree: crap thanks anyway05:33
intelikeyhitmanWilly if im not mistaken he said the reason for the server install was that the live didn't work in gui mode either05:33
ShadyTreestrabes, maybe you have another Konqueror open05:33
hitmanWillyok, missed that...05:33
strabesShadyTree: i'll try restarting my computer =\05:33
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dr_willisTheCreationist,  i was just spending the last 5 hrs getting her Vista Box to become a 'working system' go figure. :)05:33
dr_willisTheCreationist,  and what does she do.. first thing.. enables the Windows95 theme! :)05:34
stdintitanix88: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/05:34
intelikeyhitmanWilly please do dubble check with him on that.  that would be a good idea.05:34
dr_willisTheCreationist,  and turns the res down to 1024x76805:34
titanix88dr_willis: ur using vista scrap?05:34
dr_willisAt least i do have her trained now to use the "fileserver"05:34
dr_willistitanix88,  it came on the wifes new $350 laptop.05:34
hitmanWillydr_willis: the last working system from M$ started with "C:\"05:34
dr_willisso shes playing Solitare on it for now05:34
ShadyTreewtf is it about people playing Solitatire on computers05:35
titanix88dr_willis: tell her to check out www.badvista.org05:35
dr_willisShadyTree,  she wakes up in the night.. smokes a cig.. plays solitare for 10 min or so...05:35
ShadyTreeok sorry05:35
stdinShadyTree: because they are sad loaners ?05:35
ShadyTreeno05:35
dr_willisand hopefully dosent fall asleep while smoking again... :)05:35
intelikeyL-users ?05:36
dr_willisSnoozers!05:36
ShadyTreemost people that arent into computers only play Solitaire05:36
hitmanWillyTheCreationist: so does the liveCd work in graphics mode? or just a text(ncurses) interface?05:36
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titanix88hitmanWilly: live cd is always graphics.05:37
intelikeytitanix88 no.05:38
ShadyTreealternate cd has text installer as an option05:38
intelikeythe live CD will run in console only mode too.05:38
intelikeywon't install so easily from there but will run.05:38
ShadyTreeI had to use text install for Ubuntu, but not Kubuntu05:39
ShadyTreeUbuntu used up all my laptop memory, so I couldnt install it from the desktop05:39
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ShadyTreestrabes, did that work05:40
strabesShadyTree: no =\05:40
titanix88stdin:thnx.05:40
intelikeyhmmm on one box i installed hoary a year later upgraded streight to dapper.  on another installed hoary and it's still at that stage.  on another installed dapper and still there.05:40
stdintitanix88: it's a great reference, I use it all the time05:40
ShadyTreestrabes, oh well.  thats the only way youll be able to save View per Folder, by restoring the original Konqueror settings.  Kubuntu, for some reason, replaces them with simplified options05:40
strabesyeah05:41
intelikeyShadyTree how much RAM ?05:41
ShadyTree25605:41
ShadyTreebut the Kubuntu installed perfectly from th desktop on the same computer05:41
ShadyTreeboth were complete HD reformats05:41
intelikeyhmmm   i installed with 196m on a desktop from the live05:41
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ShadyTreeUbuntu or Kubuntu05:41
intelikeyboth05:42
intelikeyactually05:42
ShadyTreeKubuntu worked, but Ubuntu didnt.  I had to use text installer for Ubuntu05:42
intelikeywhich version ?05:42
ShadyTreefeisy05:42
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intelikeyok i only have dapper live05:42
intelikeyso they probably overloaded the ubuntu feisty live05:43
ShadyTreeyeah05:43
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titanix88intelikey:until next LTS i'm stiking to Dapper and upgrade it regularly. No feisty.05:44
intelikeybut yeah i got shipit ubuntu and kubuntu live CD's of dapper when they first shipped.  cause i heard that dapper was the LTS release.05:44
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strabesShadyTree: i got it to work. I had to copy it to the home directory not the one in /usr05:44
intelikeytitanix88 :)05:44
titanix88intellikey:Now they became 6.06.305:45
intelikeythey say great minds think alike.    looks like irc L-users type alike    :)05:45
ShadyTreestrabes, ok good05:45
titanix88intellikey:it's just mother of all ubuntu :)05:46
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hitmanWillyhey all, check this out :) http://www.arouse.net/despair-linux/05:48
intelikeyall in all i really don't have much to complain about with dapper.  there is a kernel/hardware issue unresolved that affects users trying to write to scsi disks without permission that boggs down the system and loads the memory with unrecoverable "false usage".    other than that i have no issues with this system.05:48
intelikeyoh and the foomatic database is buggy.   they fixed it in breezy but reintroduced the same bug right back in (in one of the updates) in dapper.05:50
gan|y|medthis is a bit unspecific, i know, but does anybody experience a comparatively slow performance of window creation/resizing in kde with the ati fglrx drivers?05:50
hitmanWillyhonestly, ubuntu seems overly bloated to me, (at least compared to my gentoo box :D)05:51
intelikeyhitmanWilly indeed.05:51
aldinserver1.example.com, what this server1 means ( iam aseting postfix so i been asked for this)05:51
gan|y|medhitmanWilly: what do you mean?05:52
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ShadyTreeThing's I'd change with default Kubuntu installation:  Change 1-click to 2-click file selection,  Start new sessions as Empty, Numpad key on, restore original Konq settings05:53
intelikeygan|y|med well 400m for console only ?    isn't that bloat.   i can do that with a floppydisk  1.44m05:53
hitmanWillygan|y|med: ok, run lsmod and compare it to mine http://pastebin.ca/51778205:54
hitmanWillygan|y|med: that's just a small example05:54
gan|y|medwell, i know what you mean by that, but then again, isn't gentoo supposed to be slimmer due to install customisation?05:54
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intelikeyhttp://ubuntu.pastebin.us/36923 hitmanWilly05:55
hitmanWillygan|y|med: yes, but there's a point05:55
_6StringKng_so I tried setting Firefox to the default browser fromt he terminal as I have many different times...and no wit wont work for some reason05:55
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intelikeyhitmanWilly and mine is trim for a ubuntu box05:56
hitmanWillyalso, on the default install when it wants to remove all of kde when i try to remove bluetooth support05:56
_6StringKng_I enter this sudo update-alternatives config x-www-browser05:56
_6StringKng_and I get this05:56
_6StringKng_update-alternatives: unknown argument `config'05:56
hitmanWillyintelikey: yeah, i know05:56
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gan|y|medf***, deleted my initrd...05:57
gan|y|medok, that kernel is gone05:57
hitmanWillyintelikey: i still run kubuntu on the laptop cause i really dont care about performance on it, and its a lot easier to set up than gentoo05:57
intelikeygan|y|med mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd[tabkey]  `uname -r`05:57
titanix88gna|y|med: YOU r DOOMED!! :)05:58
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hitmanWillyintelikey: especially for wi-fi related stuff05:58
fogwarhitmanWilly: hey man sorry to bother but how do i get my xchat minimized to my systray05:59
intelikeythat i know nothing about, no hardware.05:59
gan|y|medtitanix88: i know, i really am :)05:59
hitmanWillyfogwar: got me...don't use it05:59
hitmanWilly*I05:59
intelikeygan|y|med ?    just install a kernel/initrd pair05:59
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hitmanWillyintelikey: its very hit/miss, and a serious pain06:00
gan|y|medintelikey: was my own custom kernel. but i am trying realtime now anyway, so it won't kill me06:00
fogwarhitmanWilly: what do u use06:00
hitmanWillyintelikey: luckily mine works well06:00
intelikeygan|y|med you only have issues if you poweroff/reboot.   as long as it's running you can fix it.06:00
hitmanWillyfogwar: usually irssi these days06:00
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fogwardoes it minimize to systray06:00
hitmanWillyfogwar: either that or kvirc06:01
Admiral_Chicago_yep, the latest kernel messes things up06:01
hitmanWillyfogwar: no, its a console app06:01
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hitmanWillyfogwar: s/its/irssi06:01
titanix88Ever hard of Nethack? It's a wired game(hacker's game).Even though i dloaded Falcon's eye, it's kind of same thing.How come games be like this?06:01
gan|y|medintelikey: i got it back with the help of your nice little command06:01
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gan|y|medthx06:02
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intelikeynp.06:02
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aldinwhat ports should i open on router for postfix?06:02
gan|y|medintelikey: why?06:02
intelikeygan|y|med yes indeed why.06:02
hitmanWillyaldin: probably pop imap and smtp06:02
dr_willisfalconswyw is a 3d/purtifed variant of nethack :)06:02
gan|y|medintelikey: better than searching each and every module to include in the kernel so that it will boot in the first place06:02
titanix88fogwar: konversation.06:03
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suHey there....I'm a noob, and was wondering how I could set permissions to write to an external hd in Ubuntu06:04
intelikeythe use of initramfs.img or initrd.img is so you can "generic" the boot process for many possable hardware configurations   and a custom kernel is so easy to customize for the hardware that an init*.img is only going to slow down the boot process for a custom kernel.06:04
suIt is ntfs06:04
fogwar_gm06:04
intelikeygan|y|med "searching each and every module to include"   hehhe  disk/fs support and it will boot.06:04
fogwar_titanix88: well, how do i set it to minimize to task? i cant see it in setitngs06:04
hitmanWillysu: you need to have ntfs-3g set up to write to ntfs06:04
suI have checked every single possible box in the user/group settings06:05
intelikeythat's the point.06:05
fogwar_titanix88: NVM06:05
hitmanWilly!ntfs-3g06:05
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:05
gan|y|medi thought so myself, but then again, my kernel won't start because including the disk/fs support used to work, but now i could not find ALL the necessary drivers06:05
hitmanWillysu: see link from ubotu06:05
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titanix88fogwar_: by default u can see a icon in the notification ares.don;t u?06:05
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gan|y|medit worked until egdy, but i got confused with the new ide (ata=sata?) drivers06:06
intelikeygan|y|med 95% of what is done in the init*.img is redone in the init scripts anyway.       and as to the modules to include    lsmod | cut -d' ' -f1 > include      and you can shorten that with   | grep -v snd06:07
MinatakuHeh, I compile my own kernels06:08
gan|y|medno output06:08
MinatakuThere's no point to an init* with one06:08
intelikeyMinataku daz what i been saying.06:08
suhitmanwilly: how do i find this link06:08
Minatakuintelikey: I was confirming :306:09
hitmanWilly!ntfs-3g | su06:09
ubotusu: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions06:09
gan|y|medok, i got that myself. again, it was just because of the ide drivers. usually p2x (something) driver is enough...06:09
intelikeyme too  :)06:09
sumy links are opening in bluefish! ha!06:09
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illriginalCan someone help me get my Belkin Wireless USB Adapter to work? The Model is FSD7050, supposedly this is a compatible adapter but cannot see a wireless signal!06:09
gan|y|medanyway, still no output with that command06:09
hitmanWillysu: just copy and paste into your web browser06:09
sui just did that, thanks06:10
hitmanWillynp :)06:10
gan|y|medok, thx a lot. trying the realtime-image now.06:10
gan|y|medgoodnight06:10
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intelikeygan|y|med oh   that command was intended for a generic ubuntu kernel where everything is modules.   not your custom where lsmod may not say anything.06:11
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intelikeytime for a pedicure.   back when.06:13
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suso I typed in terminal: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list06:15
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suthis is all I have done.  It says: Feisty users don't have to deal with additionnal repository, all is already in ubuntu repo06:15
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K1765I've got World of Warcraft working, but the game is choppy.. I thought I fixed the driver for the graphics card.. how could i fix this.. ?06:19
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trakinashey there!06:19
stdinsu: in kubuntu you replace "gksu" with "kdesu" and "gedit" with "kate"06:19
hendaustitanix88:  wb06:19
suim in ubuntu06:19
stdinsu: then why are you in #kubuntu ?06:19
trakinaswhere can I disable boot services in kde? I want it to be weight less...06:19
dr_willisCools Got a HD Enclosuer with NDAS support.. and got Ndas working Under Ubuntu now. :)06:20
dr_williswee06:20
trakinaskopete + firefox + konversation and 432MB of ram...06:20
suum, because i have never used irc, and have't learned to configure a channel for ubuntu :(06:20
K1765do /j #ubuntu06:20
dr_willisthers a kde front end to alter the run level scripts and init.d stuff.. but  ive not messed with it in ages06:20
stdintrakinas: System Services -> Advanced -> System Services06:20
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suthanks! <~Eager Noob06:21
trakinasso, since i dont have any hp print or scanner... in fact, none of those devices. no bluetooth stuff and other wireless gagets, i think i can disable them.06:21
stdindr_willis: again, System Services -> Advanced -> System Services06:21
trakinasstdin: thank you06:21
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dr_willisi just discovered the command...  blkid  :) cool06:22
dr_willisnow where to mount my NDAS drive.06:22
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flakethe latest feisty update requires a restart?06:24
flakeor linux headers06:24
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dr_willisid heard there was a kernel update.. also heard it broke some systems..06:26
dr_willisso i will be waiting for a few more days till i update. :)06:26
titanix88hendaus: hi,did gnokii work?06:26
flakefraid to restart now..06:26
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flakebe right back.. maybe06:28
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flakedidn't feel a thing..  much06:31
cescalante_I'm on Kubuntu Edgey06:31
cescalante_no audio06:31
cescalante_says no mixer found06:31
cescalante_any idea?06:31
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Clinton__!compiz06:32
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:33
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underdog5004I'm trying to stream (or even just copy) a movie from my server to my desktop computer. Unfortunately, Konqueror gives me "Could not read file fish://192.168.2.35/path/to/file". I can't do scp from the server because I get the same error. I can't stream it because jinzora doesn't even see the main movie, just the darn sample....any ideas?06:48
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crazy_busI've got a mp4 that wont play in kaffeince.  It comes up with the error ""xine: couldn't find demux for <filename>"".  The same file plays in vlc player in windows.  Why is this and what can I do about it?06:51
underdog5004bummer...no ideas06:53
underdog5004oh well06:53
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fogwar how would i upgrade my open office? just install it over the old? or remove it first? cuz it says it is depended on by other progs06:53
nahemothHow can I use kwrite as root?06:53
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nahemothI want to modify a file which requires to be root06:53
underdog5004nahemoth, have you tried kdesu kwrite?06:53
underdog5004try that from the konsole06:54
dr_willisthe power of sudo! use it wisely06:54
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dr_willisfor good not evil! :)06:54
nahemothyea, but it says, cannot start X window or something like this06:54
underdog5004With great power comes great responsibility06:54
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raylu...06:54
nahemothunderdog5004:  it says can not connect to X server06:54
rayluwith great power comes the ability to +w to all files.06:55
raylunahemoth, alt+f2, kdesu kate06:55
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underdog5004nahemoth, that's a problem...06:55
raylu!mp4 | crazy_bus06:56
ubotucrazy_bus: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:56
illriginalDoes anyone have a clue about wireless usb adapters, with ubuntu feisty???06:56
raylufogwar, what are you using to upgrade it?06:56
underdog5004nahemoth, does that happen when you type in kdesu kwrite?06:56
rayluillriginal, what's wrong with yours? have you tried ndiswrapper?06:56
crazy_busraylu: the stange thing is that all other mp4's play06:56
illriginalyeah but i can't find the inf file for this usb device.06:56
illriginali don't have the cd for it.06:56
raylucrazy_bus, it's possible it has some sort of DRM06:56
michael__hey guys can someoen please upload the files msfonts-rules.conf misc.conf local.conf in /etc/fonts/ in rapidshare.com06:57
rayluillriginal, do you happen to have a copy of Windows on this computer?06:57
crazy_busit's from archive.org.  So I doubt it has drm06:57
illriginalwait06:57
raylumichael__, why?06:57
illriginali do have the disc!06:57
michael__raylu, i changed mine and now i hate it06:57
illriginalraylu, let me see if i can extract the inf file from the disc onto ndiswrapper06:57
michael__and i dont have backups06:57
michael__: (06:57
rayluwoah...what in the world?06:58
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nahemothunderdog5004: thanks it worked06:59
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raylumichael__, have you tried moving/renaming them? they may be recreated to default06:59
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raylumichael__, they should also be on the install cd06:59
underdog5004nahemoth__, uh...no problem07:00
michael__raylu, i found out how, just delete /etc/fonts/local.conf07:00
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illriginalHey raylu, I installed the driver via .inf file with ndiswrapper07:03
illriginalbut still nothing, i don't think.07:03
raylundiswrapper -l07:03
raylu?07:03
illriginalhold07:03
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illriginalraylu... i didn't get a response from the terminal after i typed that command07:04
rayluo.007:04
rayluthat's not good07:04
illriginalraylu07:04
illriginalim sorry07:04
rayluctrl+c; it may require sudo07:04
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illriginalrt73 : driver installed07:04
rayluoh07:04
rayluhm. if that's the right driver, i'm out of ideas. i've never really used ndiswrapper07:05
illriginalhow would I check a wireless range?07:05
rayluyou'd have to find a spec sheet07:05
illriginalor see if the wireless adapter is working but just not connected?07:05
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illriginali wanna know if it's pickin up a wireless transmission, and try to connect to it.07:06
rayluknetworkmanager07:06
rayluor you can install kwifimanager07:07
cmvoHi! It seems with the latest kernel update (edgy, 2.6.17-11) sometimes the keys of a PS/2 mouse get stuck down. Anybody seen similar problems?07:07
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illriginalsudo get-apt install kwifimanager ?07:07
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rayluyes07:08
raylu!aptitude07:08
ubotuaptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide07:08
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trakinas!beryl07:14
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:14
trakinascheers all07:16
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illriginalyeah raylu, not pickin up any wireless networks07:17
dsmith_hi07:17
illriginalis there a way i can check to see if my usb wireless adapter is connected?07:17
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raylusorry, I don't know07:18
dsmith_one cannot install proprietary Nvidia drivers in Fiesty?07:18
stdindsmith_: one can if one wants to07:19
ahmedguys pls help,, the kde kmenu and showdesktop icons are shifted by some space to the right now and i cant just drag them back to the most left as they where how to do that  ???07:19
dsmith_ok..07:19
dsmith_i guess it must be compiled07:19
stdindsmith_: just follow the guild for edgy07:19
ahmedhello07:20
dsmith_stdin: I did07:20
dsmith_i'll have to go back and read my notes07:20
dsmith_thats all07:20
ahmedguys pls help,, the kde kmenu and showdesktop icons are shifted by some space to the right now and i cant just drag them back to the most left as they where how to do that  ???07:20
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raylui have no idea what you mean, ahmed07:21
stdindsmith_: in feisty there are 3 versions, "nvidia-glx", "nvidix-glx-legacy" and "nvidia-glx-new"07:21
rayluplease be more patient, though07:21
dsmith_ahmed: keep playing with it07:21
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Rictoohow do I see my current hd space?07:26
Rictooaka free space :p07:26
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stdinRictoo: there is a GUI way, but "df -h" in konsiole will shoe you07:27
rayluo.007:28
Rictoothanks, stdin07:28
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ahmeddsmith_, u know the k menu icon in the task bar ???07:30
ahmedits shifted (moved a bit to the right ,, not sticking to the left border of the screen )07:30
ahmedknow wat i mean ??07:30
Jucatoahmed: middle-click and drag07:30
ahmedlol07:31
ahmedTHANKS :D07:31
Jucato:D07:31
ahmedfirst time 2 use linux07:31
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innernautI have a question for the gurus... searched and can't find anything relevant07:33
nahemoth__how can I create a new folder in a directory where only root is allowed?07:33
raylusudo mkdir07:33
nahemoth__sudo makedir /foldername ?07:33
ahmedhow to apply a  new theme for kde - kubuntu ?07:34
nahemoth__is that it?07:34
ahmedi have the theme file already07:34
ahmeddont know how to  use it07:34
Jucato!changethemes | ahmed07:34
ubotuahmed: [Ubuntu]  Install gnome-themes or go to menu, system settings, appearance. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy for a guide. [Kubuntu]  For a Kubuntu guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu07:34
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raylunahemoth__, no /07:34
Jucatoinnernaut: sudo mkdir foldername07:34
nahemoth__raylu ok thanks07:35
innernautObviously, the wifi card on this machine is working fine... although, occasionally my machine will COMPLETELY freeze, usually in relation to my router hanging.  Then I was accessing this machine from a windows machine earlier (via samba share that has always worked) and although it accessed the drive, when I tried to run something it froze the entire machine... I think it is something with my network settings07:35
ahmedUsing Settings->Appearance and Themes->07:36
ahmed Theme Manager07:36
ahmedguys this doesnt exist in kubuntu07:36
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ahmedi wanna access the theme manager07:36
ahmedand i cant07:36
ahmedpls hek07:36
ahmedhelp*07:36
rayluahmed, kmenu > system settings07:36
innernautlspci yeilds:  02:03.0 Network controller: Intersil Corporation Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 01)07:36
Jucatoahmed: did you even check the guide above?07:36
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innernautand iwconfig:07:37
rayluinnernaut, i assume you can't get to tty1?07:37
innernauto        no wireless extensions.07:37
innernautwifi0     IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:"GRATiTUDE"  Nickname:""07:37
innernaut          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 00:0F:B5:1B:47:6207:37
innernaut          Bit Rate:11 Mb/s   Sensitivity=1/307:37
innernaut          Retry limit:8   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off07:37
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innernaut          Power Management:off07:37
Jucato!paste | innernaut07:37
innernautwlan1     IEEE 802.11b  ESSID:"GRATiTUDE"  Nickname:""07:37
ubotuinnernaut: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:37
innernaut          Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 00:0F:B5:1B:47:6207:38
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innernaut          Bit Rate:11 Mb/s   Sensitivity=1/307:38
innernaut          Retry limit:8   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off07:38
innernaut          Power Management:off07:38
innernaut          Link Quality=22/70  Signal level=-78 dBm  Noise level=-100 dBm07:38
innernaut          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:007:38
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innernautyes sir07:38
innernautno07:38
innernautI can07:38
rayluo.007:38
Jucatoinnernaut: next time, don't paste in the channel07:38
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rayluyou could kill whatever froze it from there, then07:38
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ahmedok i know how to access the theme manager now but i cant install a theme,, when i click on install theme and browse to the theme file extracted folder , i find lotsa folders inside and unable to locate the theme file,, plzz help07:46
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rayluwhere did you get the theme from?07:47
rayluand when you downloaded it, what was it's filename? was it a .theme?07:47
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Jucatoahmed: you don't have to extract the theme. first what kind of a theme is it? is it a .kth file?07:49
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rayluoh haha. it's .theme in windows :P07:49
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JucatoO.o07:50
Jucatoyou're trying to apply a Windows theme on KDE?07:50
ahmedjucato now i know there is 2 types of theme, theme manager themes,, and other themes07:50
ahmedhow to install this other themes cause its not a .kth file07:50
rayluno. i just assumed it would be .theme :P07:50
Jucatoahmed: did you read the link the bot gave?07:50
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ahmedyea07:51
ahmeddidnt get anything from it07:51
Jucatoahmed: ok, what are you trying to install?07:51
Jucatowhat kind of theme. that's the first thing you have to know07:52
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LynoureSince the latest upgrades my kpilot has been rather non-interactive. Any ideas what to do about it?07:59
raylu!kpilot07:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kpilot - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:00
raylu!info kpilot08:00
ubotukpilot: KDE Palm Pilot hot-sync tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu6 (feisty), package size 1915 kB, installed size 4400 kB08:00
rayluo.008:00
raylugrub loader should have your old kernel...or do you mean kpilot upgrade?08:00
Lynoureraylu: I don't think the kpilot upgraded.08:01
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cagarahey, how can i turn off this annoying session saving08:02
Lynoureraylu: Is this a known bug with the new kernel? Any idea of the workaround?08:02
rayluso did your kernel get upgraded? (linux-headers package, i believe)08:02
cagaraevery time i restart all the programms i were running before start again08:02
cagaraid like to start with a blank session everytime i reboot08:02
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raylucagara, yes, but i don't remember where the option is08:03
Lynoureraylu: yes, 2.6.20-16-generic08:03
rayluLynoure, grub loader should still have your old kernel, right?08:03
Lynoureraylu: yes.08:03
rayluthen try booting into that08:04
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Lynoureraylu: I cannot do that right now, but it is not much of a workaround. Any idea of the cause?08:04
raylucagara, kcontrol > session manager08:05
cagarathanx08:05
rayluLynoure, i assume something in the kernel doesn't agree with kpilot...but i've never used either and i think i'm still on the old kernel :P08:05
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Lynoureraylu: kpilot just totally freezes now, whether or not I have palm plugged in, or visor module loaded. hmmm. It's a bit more radical than the previous problems :008:07
Lynoures/0/)08:08
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LynoureBut I better look at it more after work...08:10
Lynourestracetime maybe then.08:10
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cagaraother thing, every now and then my KNetworkManager does no longer work, means it starts saying "NetworkManager not running" ... internet still works and it does only happen sometimes08:14
cagaraany ideas?08:14
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rayluseems unimportant to me08:15
raylucan you restart it?08:16
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cagarayes i can restart it, but its very annoying when, while im working, the networkmanager dissapears so i cant change my network or anything08:18
_6StringKng_when I try to set Firefox to the default browser through the command line I get an erro, and I've doe this on a previous installation and it worked fine...  update-alternatives: unknown argument `config'08:18
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cagara_6StringKng_: what is the command, i would also want it as the default browser08:19
alokhi08:19
raylu_6StringKng_, --config, not -config, i think08:19
_6StringKng_k08:19
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aloki have few doubts .. can some help08:19
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raylu!question08:19
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:19
cagara_6StringKng_: can you please tell me the command for setting firefox as default08:20
_6StringKng_sudo update-alternatives config x-www-browser08:20
cagarathank08:20
cagarayou08:20
_6StringKng_np08:20
_6StringKng_I just cant get the damned thing to work for some reason08:20
u123hi everybody08:20
cagarai will try it08:20
cagaramom08:20
_6StringKng_k, well it worked when I changed it to --config, lmao08:20
alokis it possible to create plugins for this client.. so that v can use it in web browser08:20
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_6StringKng_thanks raylu08:21
rayluit says so in --help for that command :P08:21
raylualok, this client = ?08:21
alokya08:21
_6StringKng_yeah but I had done it that way before is why it was confusing me, lmao08:21
rayluum...that wasn't a yes or no question08:21
aloki mean this konversation chat client08:22
rayluno, that won't be easy. i believe there is a firefox plugin already for irc. opera has one too08:22
Jucatoalok: might want to ask in #konversation but afaik, this client is really meant to be a standalone program08:22
alokactually i m intersted in creating a chat client for official use08:23
alokso that only the employee can login to that and chat08:23
alokhow can i do it08:23
rayluhuh?08:24
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alok:)08:24
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PollywogI had to reinstall Ubuntu because of a mbr problem, but now kuser says it can't create backup file for /etc/password and it also reports that it cannot open /etc/shadow08:25
PollywogWhy is Feisty still so broken?08:26
raylusounds like you didn't run kuser as root08:26
raylualso sounds like you didn't install grub properly08:26
Pollywogwell grub is fixed but you are right about kuser08:27
Pollywogty08:27
Pollywogbut a reinstall seemed to be the only way to deal with the grub problem that resulted from moving partitions08:28
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Pollywogat least I did not lose /home08:28
rayluyou can install grub from the livecd08:29
PollywogI tried that08:29
rayluo.008:29
Pollywogand also tried to start a normal install and then finish just before partitioning, and going directly to the grub install08:30
Pollywogthe way ppl do if they install windows after Linux08:30
PollywogI got debootstrap errors so that did not work08:30
rayluyou cut the install short?08:30
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Pollywogyes that is how one fixes installing windows after linux08:31
raylu...08:31
rayluno...08:31
Pollywogit did not work so I did the entire install08:31
raylucutting an install short isn't a solution to anything. it causes more problems, if anything...08:32
raylui installed linux, then windows, and  used the livecd to reinstall grub08:32
Pollywogwell it has worked for me before08:32
Pollywogbut I tried the livecd and it could not find my mbr08:33
underdog5004raylu, to reinstall grub, just boot the livecd and from a terminal (konsole) type grub-install08:33
Pollywogyes I did that08:33
underdog5004maybe grub-install /dev/device (/dev/hda)08:33
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Pollywogso now I have to rebuild my setup but I did not lose /home and become /homeless08:34
Pollywogall this because I ran out of space on / this morniong08:34
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illriginalDoes anyone know how to enable Hyperthreading?08:34
crimsun(I'm helping you with that...)08:36
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basantadoes kubuntu kernel have  madwifi08:37
crimsunin linux-restricted-modules-2.6.2x, yes08:38
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illriginalCan anyone help me enable Hyperthreading please?08:47
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_6StringKng_!ATI08:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:49
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RictooHow would I do a system restart without it loading up the same aps I had open when I logged out?08:51
Rictooapps*08:51
defcon_what is the best firewall monitor08:51
JucatoRictoo: System Settings -> Advanced tab -> Session Manager08:51
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Rictoothanks Jucato <308:52
n3trunnerhello everyone! i've encountered a weird problem...after i restarted my machine..upon loggin in, it immediately goes back to my KDM...08:52
crimsunmake sure /var and /tmp exist with proper permissions and that you have plenty of free space on both partitions.08:53
crimsunalso, make sure that the lo interface is up.08:53
makuseru!Multimedia Converter08:53
makuseru!!Multimedia Converter08:53
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n3trunnercrimsun: is your answer for me?08:54
_6StringKng_so none of my sounds work in Gaim, anyoen know why?08:54
crimsunn3trunner: yes.08:54
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nbcbhow to run a command in background08:55
n3trunnercrimsun: i was wondering what cause it that way?08:56
n3trunnercrimsun: the system was fine and running for more than 2 months08:57
n3trunnercrimsum: mainly free space issue?08:57
_6StringKng_so...08:57
crimsunn3trunner: I don't mean to sound rude, but what _was_ is irrelevant currently.  What is its current status?08:57
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illriginalCan someone help me enable my hyperthreading, this is what I get in my dmesg: http://www.pastebin.ca/51816108:58
illriginalClaims that it's disabled.08:58
n3trunnercrimsun: no no no its ok...hehehe...ahhmmm...actually its not my machine...its for someone....i'll have to get back on her and ask her to check her disk space....08:59
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GursikhAnyone around?09:06
makuseruya09:07
GursikhCool, Q: using Kubuntu, I did something I think and now the icons in the system tray are a single row (tkaing up a lot of space), how do I get the system tray to stack the icons back in two rows?09:08
makuserustretch the tray back out09:08
makuseruthey go into one row when its too small for two rowas09:09
JucatoGursikh: set your panel size to Large or Custom size of 4809:09
makuserurows*09:09
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Gursikh48 doesn't do it :-(09:09
Gursikhthough Large does09:09
Rictooin screenshots of kubuntu, I see many people with a dock on the right side of their screen showing cpu usage, ram usage, cpu temp, etc.,09:09
Rictoowhat is it?09:09
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JucatoGursikh: after setting it to large, set it to 4809:10
GursikhJucato: ah yes, that worked09:10
Jucato!superkaramba | Rictoo09:10
ubotuRictoo: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org09:10
Gursikhthanks a bunch!09:10
RictooAhh, I see09:10
RictooThanks alot!09:10
GursikhAny way I can get those icons smaller?09:11
Jucatonope09:11
Jucatosystem tray icon size is fixed09:11
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titanix88hendaus_:09:12
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GursikhJucato: Thanks for the help :-)09:12
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Bojemoin09:20
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titanix88Everyone silen?09:26
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titanix88Everyone silent?09:26
titanix88hendaus_:09:26
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krautmoin09:27
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KevinAlaska<--- silent because I am getting sick and at this time I run normally on fewer brain cells then could be found sea spung.  With the sickness a sea spung as the upper hand. :S09:29
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ardchoilletitanix88: Shh, we're sleeping, lol09:30
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adminitHello all09:31
KevinAlaskasorry I can't keep the volume down.  The enjoyment of banging pots and pans is to much fun for the simpleton life I am currently leading.09:31
KevinAlaskahello adminit09:31
Rictoodoes anyone have any unused ram they can send me?09:31
RictooO.O09:31
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RictooPC3200 (DDR400) DDR SDRAM09:31
Rictoo:p09:31
titanix88ardchoille: rock a bye baby.......Z Z z z !! :)09:32
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ardchoillelol09:32
titanix88Rictoo: Where do u live?09:32
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KevinAlaska(THUMP!!) "head to deaktop"09:32
Rictootitanix88: South Texas :p09:32
michaelhow can i get rid of this error when launching from konsole09:33
michaelX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16909:33
michaeli know the applicatinos still start fine but it seems this is a cause of slowness09:33
RictooI think everyone gets it09:33
RictooI sure do09:33
titanix88Rictoo: Almost on the other side of the world(from Bangladesh) :p09:33
Rictoohaha09:34
RictooThat reminds me... I love the internet :)09:34
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titanix88Isn't it amazing to think how amazing the internet is (ahhhhh....8)09:35
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smile#openoffice09:37
michaelRictoo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=43586409:37
michaelshould speed up launching applications imo09:37
Rictoo:o09:37
RictooNICE FIND09:37
Rictoo<309:37
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smilehi ..i need a small help .. how to make number of pages in the footer of a texte ?09:38
Rictoo#openoffice09:38
smileRictoo: no one is there :-(09:38
Rictoo:O09:39
Rictoohmm09:39
RictooI remember a long time ago I added page numbers on openoffice09:39
smileRictoo: how ? .. i know this under windoz09:39
titanix88Rictoo: How about a Desktop war to fire everybody up? :)09:40
Rictoohttp://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?p=6754&highlight=09:40
michaelhow do i restart x-server?09:40
Rictootitanix88: What's that :O09:40
Rictoomichael: ctrl+alt+backspace09:40
michaelthanks09:40
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titanix88Ricto: People arguing about their favorite desktop environment:KDE 0r GNOME.09:41
Rictoomichael: TRY RUNNING SOEMTHING:D09:41
RictooIs it faster?09:41
Rictootitanix88: Linus Trovalds likes KDE better09:42
Rictooso I do too09:42
michaelhold on lol my programs are all restarting09:42
michaelid say its faster09:43
michaeland no more error, which was the main thing bugging me09:43
michaelanyways, it cant hurt to do it09:43
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titanix88Rictoo: U got it. Wars are(desktop, text editor or distro) the best way to keep a channel running. :)09:43
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RictooI say sleep09:44
Rictoohaha09:44
RictooIt's 2:45am here09:45
Rictoo:P09:45
MaTiAzBah, isn't it obvious? KDE IS better :P09:45
MaTiAz10:45 am here :)09:45
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MaTiAzAnd I gotta go watch some 7th-graders in some amusement park -_-09:46
titanix881.46 p.m. here.09:46
michaellinus torvalds says kde is better, so it is09:46
Rictoo"I have used the Mem86 memory testing software to test 3 of them, and running time up to 30+ hours overnight testing,"09:46
RictooIs it just me, or does that make 0 sense?09:47
MaTiAzKDE would be even better if Beryl worked for me, now that I got my nvidia drivers working :)09:47
titanix88I would also say KDE is better  only i didn't have to see kCrashNotifier so often.09:47
titanix88I would also say KDE is better  only if i didn't have to see kCrashNotifier so often.09:48
titanix88GNome is just ugly in oter distro, but in ubuntu;it's amazing.09:48
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smileRictoo: thx09:50
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titanix88 Is everyone from North America? If not then why r u sleeping?09:54
vyomanmy brother printer prints only the header and footer but no body text in Kate - I believe it was working fine before the yesterdays kernel upgrade, anyone can help?09:54
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aldin_how to find out is my ISP blocking port 2509:57
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vyomanthat is now the second time in three month that kubuntu upgrades break my printer - it is monday morning and i have a meeting - getting totaly fucked by upgrades again *&$09:59
vyoman(% ask my neighbour again to print my (^%&^% letter on (*^(* windows10:00
KevinAlaskaaldin_ call your ISP?10:00
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crazy_busI installed Kerry to see how good it is.  However it wont find anything.  How can I tell it to index things?10:31
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tulgaI installed compiz-kde and trying "compiz --replace gconf &" from terminal. but it said couldn't load plugin 'gconf'. howto fix it?10:37
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_4strOyop yop10:44
adaptrgconf is a gnome component, why would you want to do that ?10:44
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_4strO!paste10:46
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:46
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tulgaI installed successfully10:48
tulgawhere is compiz configuration file?10:48
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ishtobhi10:50
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rdallarmihi, I am having a strange problem with feisty. the only way I can boot it (amd64) is to boot it in recovery mode and then ctrl-d if I start normally the system hang. It was doing the same with the installation cd, the solution back then was tochange the default video resolution to any other value. Where, in the startup sequence, the default screen reloution (for text mode, kde runs fine) is set?10:53
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foughi, can anyone tell me why they like KDE more than gnome?10:54
rdallarmifog, have you used kde ever?10:54
fougnope10:54
fougpretty new to linux, only been using ubuntu itself for about a month10:55
fougbut a good friend of mine uses SUSE with KDE and said KDE is way better than gnome10:55
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fougso i figured i'd come here and see why you people chose KDE over gnome10:55
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adaptryou can go one better and just install it: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop10:56
adaptrthen you can choose which one to run whenever you log in10:56
ishtobdoes anyone knows how to set up the stylus for hp tc1100 tablet?10:56
noiesmofoug, you can run both10:56
fougadaptr: i don't have to restart to switch over to KDE?10:56
adaptrrestart ? go wash your mouth10:56
fougwill beryl still function under KDE or will i have to install it again?10:56
noiesmoi like konquror and the addon service menus it has10:56
fouglmao, sorry sorry i forget linux is so good sometimes10:56
ishtobfoug: just use login screen10:56
fougishtob: just go to switch user?10:57
adaptrsince beryl is hooked into Xorg, not really, no10:57
adaptrno, log out10:57
fougallright, i'll try it out, thanks10:57
rdallarmifoug, maybe you could install kubuntu on a spare system and make your uwn opinion up, for myself, at the beginning I found the duplicated effort of building gnome was a waste, but indeed it helpd clearing up the qt licencing issue. At the moment gnome has no application (firefox , evolution and openoffice are NOT gnome applications). KDE (to me) looks also cooler, but that is personal taste10:57
KevinAlaskaif you install something that has dependencies, is there a command that will just get those... what would be the easiest way of getting them installed?10:57
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kskserseyslm10:58
fougrdallarmi: can KDE be small at compact? gnome is pretty much set in the bottom left corner of my screen and nowhere else10:58
JucatoKevinAlaska: apt-get/aptitude/Adept does that automatically10:58
rdallarmifoug, not sure I understand your problem10:58
JucatoKevinAlaska: or do you mean something else?10:58
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fougnot a problem, really10:58
rdallarmismall at compact = ?10:59
fougo small AND compact10:59
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Jucatofoug: what exactly do you mean? how do you set GNOME in the bottom left corner of the screen?10:59
rdallarmitalking about memory footprint? I do not find KDE bloated but again, I am not sure what your system specs are10:59
fougJucato: well i told it to make task buttons no bigger than 450 pixels, and i unchecked "expand" on both panels11:00
KevinAlaskawell it was not an adept program... its called envy11:00
KevinAlaskajucato11:00
KevinAlaska:)11:00
Jucatofoug: ah you mean the panel? then yes.11:00
fougJucato: cool11:00
Jucatofoug: actually, you have more control over the width of the panel. not just "expand" or not. you can go 10%, 50%, 73% 81%, etc11:01
KevinAlaskasupposed to install nvidia drivers correctly for ubuntu feisty11:01
noiesmoKevinAlaska, try "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" before envy I had to once when I used it11:01
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fougJucato: ooo, now that's what i was asking for originally :) now KDE sounds more appealing than gnome hehe11:01
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mneisenhi, I just installed gnupg2, but it did not create a configuration file (i.e., ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf). Is this normal? What should I do?11:02
Jucatofoug: a common "comment" (or misconception?) about KDE is that it offers more choices/options upfront, which is both good and bad in a way (like making the menus/dialogs a bit crowded or confusing for some)11:02
Jucatofoug: you might want to read this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome11:03
fougJucato: cool thanks man, this site looks like it'll be of some use11:03
fougJucato: would you say KDE takes up less memory than gnome?11:04
Jucato!memory11:04
ubotuA quick FAQ on Memory Management: http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management For Lubos Lunak's desktop memory usage comparison, see: http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/memory/desktop_benchmark.html11:04
Jucatofoug: see the last link ^^^^11:04
foug:)11:05
KevinAlaskanoiesmo, I recieved this output from that command -->http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/91714711:07
KevinAlaskahttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/91714711:07
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noiesmoKevinAlaska, well I run the "sudo apt-get -f install" and sort that then look at why the packages aint being installed what u running kubuntu fiesty11:09
KevinAlaskadoh.. just JUST figured I didnt have the sudo first .. :S11:10
rdallarmiwhat is grub.conf called in ubunut?11:10
tulgahowto find compiz package's files?11:11
noiesmotulga, dpkg-query -l |grep compiz11:12
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tulganoiesmo: packages installed. but I don't know which files copied which place11:12
noiesmotulga, locate compiz11:13
tulganoiesmo: where is compiz configuration file?11:13
tulgaI want change top and bottom image etc11:13
noiesmotulga, ~/.compiz i thinks11:13
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tulga.compiz not created in my system11:14
noiesmotulga, using beryl isnt there a manager for that11:14
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tulgaI don't like beryl11:15
c1|freakygood morning all :D11:15
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noiesmotulga, fair enough but isnt there compiz-manager ot gnome-compiz-manger11:16
KevinAlaskarestarting my computer.. =/  if I am not back in 10 minutes or more.. problems for me. heh. cheers folks11:19
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rdallarmiis there anybody in here using a belking usb network card (rt73)11:22
rdallarmi?11:22
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mneisenhi, I just installed gnupg2, but it did not create a configuration file (i.e., ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf). Is this normal? What should I do?11:30
tulgahowto change compiz top and bottom yellow color?11:31
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_4strOincrediiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiible its the first time my battery say to me it's charged at 100% (i'm on the sector)11:34
_4strOfirst time it dont lie to me :)11:34
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_4strO:/ now it came back to 73% :/11:36
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khaije1anyone ever looked at ndiswrapper? for flash on amd64 in particular?11:40
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khaije1any recommended approaches to this problem?11:40
Jucato!flash6411:40
ubotuYou can run Flash, Real, and Java plugins in AMD64 bit computers with Firefox. see the steps to follow at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava11:40
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brokenthornWhich is the latest KDE in Kubuntu?11:44
Jucato!kde11:45
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.11:45
Jucatobrokenthorn: ^^^11:45
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fiziwo kann man denn hier ne frage loswerden?11:48
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Jucato!de11:50
fizija11:50
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Jucato#kubuntu-de or #ubuntu-de11:50
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:50
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fizithx11:51
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ritaliny012:02
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ritalinany docs on how to install flash?12:02
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adiflash plugin?12:03
ritalinyes12:03
ritalinfor firefox12:03
adifirefox installes it automaticcly12:04
aldinhow to find out is my ISP blocking port 2512:04
ritalino12:04
adiif not download it and run the install script12:04
ritalinyeah it wanted to i just didnt know if it was better to use the package manager12:04
adiif your isp blocks port 25 id leave them now:)12:04
Jucatoritalin: install flashplugin-nonfree12:04
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adijust let firefox install it12:05
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ritalinhmm12:06
ritalini need the extra repo's i guess12:06
ritalinany idea on how to get those? the wiki only explains for ubuntu12:06
Jucatoritalin: what version of Kubuntu?12:07
ritalinlatest stable12:08
ritalinwhatever that is12:08
adiwhy do you want to install flash plugin manuallt when your browser does it for you?12:08
ritalinadi: i like to use package managers whenever possible12:08
ritalinjust makes it easier12:08
adiok:)12:08
Jucatoadi: so that Flash will be installed properly not only for Firefox? (in case he wants to use it in Konqueror too)12:08
adiok:)12:08
Jucatoritalin: multiverse, where the package is, is already enabled by default in Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty (latest stable)12:08
Jucatoritalin: just look for flashplugin-nonfree12:09
Jucatoif you're using 6.10 (Edgy) or 6.06.x (Dapper), you have to enable the multiverse repository12:09
ritalinok12:09
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ritalinkubuntu is really great12:13
ritalinnot very often you see a linux distro that just works(tm) out of the box12:13
ritalineven sound is all set up12:14
Jucato:)12:14
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ritalinbrb reboot12:18
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epimethreally quick guys (and yes, I know its not a kubuntu specific question...)12:20
epimethhow would I use sed to make every ' </a>' be just '</a>' ?12:21
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widg3twhat does the dvd iso have that the cd iso doesn't?12:22
Jucatowidg3t: lots of packages12:22
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widg3twill i still need to burn a cd or can i install from a dvd?12:23
epimethmeh... got it :-)12:23
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PeterJBhi12:25
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piksi__anyone can helping setting my HP 1020 w?12:29
piksi__anyone can helping setting my HP 1020 ?12:29
GrahamSetting it to what?12:29
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piksi__my kubuntu12:31
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GrahamYou want to get your printer to Kubuntu?12:31
Nanuhi there12:32
GrahamI'm gonna assume that English isn't your best language.12:32
GrahamNanu: Morning.12:32
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NanuI wanna install kubuntu ..  anybody remind me how to install ?12:33
piksi__Graham: yes i am from indonesia12:33
Grahampiksi__: Have a read through this, it's for Breezy but it'll be very similar for fiesty.12:33
Grahamhttp://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_102012:33
Jucato!kubuntu | Nanu12:33
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ubotuNanu: Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support: #kubuntu - See also !KDE12:33
piksi__Graham: yes i had following those instructrion12:34
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piksi__but it hasn't work well12:34
GrahamStart the computer, put the CD in, boot it, press enter, wait, click install.12:34
GrahamAny questions?12:34
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MaxdamantusAny one know how to fully remove vmware player off Ubuntu?12:34
NanuGraham you are talking to me?12:35
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sylvisjhow would I add an ide hard disk to the automount?12:35
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GrahamNanu: Yes.12:35
Maxdamantussylvisj, /etc/fstab12:35
Grahamsylvisj: Add something like this to fstab12:35
MaxdamantusLook at the ones already listed.12:35
GrahamHang on.12:35
piksi__Graham: what should i do ?12:35
GrahamRead them again.12:36
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piksi__there are message error "/usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip failed"12:36
Grahamsylvisj: /dev/sdb3  /media/sdb3     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       112:37
piksi__from my web base cups printer manager12:37
GrahamObviously you'll need to change the mount point, device and hopefully it's not a FAT drive :)12:37
Grahampiksi__: I recommend you ask in a channel that knows more about printers.12:38
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sylvisjactually12:38
sylvisjit is an old fat32 ide hdd12:38
sylvisjWas a windows drive, til it got swapped out for a bigger drive12:38
GrahamWell, you know, format it :)12:38
Grahampiksi__: Read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7827212:38
sylvisjhah, already have valuable data on it12:38
GrahamTake it off, format it, put it back :)12:39
epimeth"take it off"... is that okay to say here?12:42
epimethso once again I find myself asking the same question... this time I promise I'll write it down12:43
piksi__Graham : how can i installing new program by using Adept?12:43
epimethwhats the apt-get install for apache/mysql/php12:43
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piksi__because i usually installing through the Internet update.12:43
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GrahamType in the package name, wait for it to search, then right click and install it.12:43
Grahamepimeth: I don't get you.12:43
epimethwhat are the packages I need for a full a/m/p server?12:44
Grahamepimeth: Can't you just search the packages on adept?12:44
Grahammysql-server php apache?12:44
epimethI can, I don't know what the packages are... its like but that doesn't integrate them into apache... I remember its like "apache-mysql' and 'apache-php5' or something12:45
Jucato!lamp | epimeth12:45
ubotuepimeth: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)12:45
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tahsinjucato: how do i install bootsplash images ?12:45
epimethahhh Jucato... I knew I could count on you :-012:45
Jucatolol12:45
Jucatotahsin: bootsplash? the one you see after choosing Kubuntu in the GRUB menu? or the one you see after logging into KDE?12:46
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Marukohi everybody12:46
tahsinjucato: the one i see after choosing kubuntu in the grub12:46
Marukocan anybody help me install and configure compiz?12:46
tahsinjucato: i want to change the kubuntu loading screen12:46
Jucatotahsin: ah, that one's not so easy to do. you can't use most of the ones from kde-look12:47
Jucato!usplash | tahsin12:47
ubotutahsin: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork12:47
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tahsinjucato: which ones can i use?12:47
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Jucatotahsin: only the ones that say USplash12:47
tahsinjucato: okay12:47
rmd_my sound has just stopped working (completely, cant even get volume icon in sys tray) and i dont even know where to begin looking12:48
tahsinjucato: thanks12:48
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tahsinjucato: can you guide me through one ?12:48
Jucatotahsin: sorry, never tried to change the bootsplash.12:49
Jucato(too much headaches last time I tried)12:49
tahsinjucato: thanks anyways12:49
tahsin:)12:49
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tahsinjucato: how do i go backwards with baghira ?12:49
tahsinjucato: i wana get rid of it completely12:50
Jucatosorry, don't know that one either. haven't tried it12:50
tahsinjucato: ok12:50
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tahsinjucato: how do i put icons on my desktop like my computer and trash12:51
sakabatouconfigure: error: ls -t appears to fail.  Make sure there is not a broken alias, just got this error at compiling, any help would be apreciated12:51
tahsinjucato: i want the trash on the desktop on the panel12:51
sakabatouAnd i have a fresh kubuntu 7.04 install12:51
Jucatotahsin: right-click on the desktop -> Create New -> Link to Location (URL), and put in the location (URL) field "trash:/" (without the quotes)12:52
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Marukopeople12:52
Marukoplease help me install compiz12:52
Jucato!compiz | Maruko12:53
ubotuMaruko: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:53
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tahsinjucato: and that My computer icon ?12:53
Jucatotahsin: use "system:/"12:53
tahsinjucato: thanks12:53
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tahsinjucato: how do i change the icon of trash ?12:56
Jucatotahsin: what do you mean?12:56
tahsinjucato: i want a different for trash12:57
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tahsinjucato: i want a different icon for trash12:57
tahsinjucato: how do i change it12:57
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StevethepirateUm... someone whats the command line flag, when installing kubuntu to disable looking for floppy drives?. i'm getting buffer i/o errors on fd012:57
Jucatotahsin: right-click on the icon -> Properties then click on the icon12:57
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tahsinjucato: i mean change the icon of trash in the panel12:58
Jucatotahsin: ah that can't be changed12:58
tahsinjucato: so its impossible to change that ?12:58
Jucato <Jucato> tahsin: ah that can't be changed <--- that would be a "yes"12:58
tahsinjucato: lol ok12:59
Jucatounless you want to dig into the source code12:59
Stevethepirateanyone?12:59
tahsinjucato: and the K-kicker icon ?12:59
Jucato!kmenu12:59
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kmenu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:59
Jucatobah12:59
Jucatotahsin: hold on12:59
tahsinjucato: ok12:59
Jucatotahsin: <apt> Instructions for changing the K menu icon: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/panel.html#id2551958 . Alternatively, use kbfx01:00
GrahamJust replace the icon.01:01
tahsinjucato: i have kbfx but cant work with it....icons doesnt seem to change u knw why ?01:01
GrahamLemme find the location.01:01
Jucatotahsin: then just follow the guide there01:01
Stevethepirate!HELPME01:01
GrahamIt would work fine with kbfx01:01
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:01
GrahamAnd don't yell.01:01
Stevethepirateis there a install commandline flag to disable floppy detection! plesae!!!01:02
tahsinWho is yelling ?01:02
JucatoStevethepirate: sorry, no idea. otherwise I would have answered01:02
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Jucatoand someone would have answered if 1) they knew or 2) they are here and they knew01:02
StevethepirateJucato: would noacpi fix it?01:03
JucatoI'm not sure. I don't use the boot options in the CD01:03
JucatoI think there's a help menu there01:03
rmd_kde decided after the most recent update that it can't find my intel sound hardware... any ideas?01:04
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Grahamrmd_: Gime it some love and come chocolate and it might change it's mind.01:04
GrahamGive*01:05
GrahamDoes lspci think it exists?01:05
Jucatomost probably the kernel, not kde, decided that....01:06
Jucato(since the latest updates were kernel related)01:06
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rmd_i tried booting the old kernel01:06
rmd_and it still didnt work01:06
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rmd_00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)01:07
rmd_(from lspci)01:07
rmd_but the device doesnt show up in kmix01:08
Marukohey01:08
Marukowhy there is no wiki for kubuntu feisty?01:08
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zerozeroif I want to upgrade from edgy to feisty, do I just change the source location in the sources.lst file?01:09
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rmd_ok01:12
rmd_i take it back01:12
rmd_old kernel: sound works01:12
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thomax_are there .deb packages released for lame 3.97 ?01:13
Marukoyes zerozer01:13
GrahamCould someone gimme a hand with k3b? It only writes at 4x and I know it can write faster.01:14
Marukoyou just have to change "feisty" in place of "edgy" in every line of your repositories and then give01:14
Marukosudo apt-get update01:14
Marukosudo apt-get dist-upgrade01:14
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MarukoGraham perhaps it's a problem with your cd01:14
Marukoif the cd is set for 4x it will not write faster01:14
zerozeroMaruko: thanks01:15
Marukono problem01:15
GrahamMaruko: I've wrote to the CD before faster, I recently formatted my computer.01:15
Marukouh ok01:15
Marukoit's the same cd u used before?01:15
Grahamdvd01:15
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GrahamAnd yes.01:15
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Marukohmmm01:16
Marukosorry don't know why it writes only 4x01:16
Marukoit's strange to me01:16
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GrahamActually...01:17
GrahamNo I must be wrong, the DVD has 4x written on it.01:17
Marukook01:17
Marukothat's what I meant before01:18
GrahamI know.01:18
Marukoit's set fopr 4x01:18
Maruko^^01:18
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uNk_why kubuntu does not reconize my second disk (ext3) - it is on ATA.01:21
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GrahamBecause Sata sucks shit.01:21
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tomaI want to install feisty, but X will not come up properly, is there an alternate way to install it from that cd?01:22
uNk_Graham, thnx but i need answer why does not work01:22
olaffhey all, how do i install firefox on kubuntu from a tar.gz ?? sorry very nuub question01:22
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GrahamuNk_: Have a look in k menu > system settings > advanced > filesystems.01:23
GrahamYou may just need to mount it manually.01:23
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Marukoolaff01:23
olaffhello01:23
Marukoenter a console01:23
olaffk01:23
Grahamtoma: I'd be worried if X doesn't work, since it may not work when it's installed01:23
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Marukothen type01:24
Marukotar -xvfz packagename.tar.gz01:24
Grahamolaff: Firefox comes with a GUI installer, extract it and run the bash file.01:24
Marukobut if you want it easier01:24
Marukojust type01:24
uNk_Graham, bios detect disk but kde doesnt. =/01:24
Marukosudo apt-get install firefox01:24
tomaGraham: i need the propietary drivers from ati. the installer default does not work.01:25
GrahamOh well if that's the case, try the safe graphics mode01:25
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Marukohow is it olaff?01:25
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tomaGraham: the menu is 'start kubuntu in safe graphics mode', its missing the 'install' part01:26
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tomaGraham: oh, but i can start it from the desktop, non?01:26
olafftar: z: Cannot open: No such file or directory01:26
olafftar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now01:26
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Maruko??01:27
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GrahamYou can't install it in Windows if that's what you're asking.01:27
Marukouh01:27
Marukosorry01:27
Marukomy fault01:27
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GrahamMaruko: You failed.01:27
Marukotar -xvzf namepackage.tar.gz01:27
tomaGraham: ok, thanks.01:27
Marukoyeah, sorry01:27
olaffit liked that better!01:27
olaffhow to remember that now... :)01:28
Marukohah01:28
Grahamtoma: Just try that safe graphics mode.01:28
GrahamIt doesn't say install, but I'm betting it does.01:28
uNk_Graham, what i have to do to detect it?01:28
tomaGraham: ok, the bet is on01:28
olaffhmm so where does that install it Maruko?01:28
GrahamuNk_: Ask in ##linux as they probably know more about it.01:28
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Marukoolaff01:29
Marukoyou just untarred the directory01:29
tomaGraham: fails as well01:29
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Marukoyou didn't install it01:29
olaffahh ok now what :)01:29
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Marukoprobably you have to compile the whole thing01:29
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Marukohehe01:29
Marukook01:29
jileenhi01:29
Marukojust enter the directory you estracted firefox in01:30
olaffk01:30
Marukodone?01:30
jacques_hi there01:30
olaffsorry, yeah01:30
Marukoopen a console in that directory01:30
jacques_I am a kubuntu user from China01:30
olaffdone01:30
Marukoni hao jacques01:30
jacques_ni hao01:30
Marukoand now type ./configure01:31
Marukoni y01:31
jacques_ni hui shuo zhomgwen ma?01:31
Marukoen01:31
jacques_zhongwen01:31
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Marukowo shi weinisi daxue zhongwen xi biye de01:31
jacques_Maruko01:31
Marukowo zai zhongguo zhule yi nian de01:31
Marukoyep?01:31
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Marukohow is it olaff?01:31
jacques_ni shi zhonguoren01:31
youlin*01:32
Marukobu shi01:32
Marukoyidaliren01:32
jacques_ni shi riben de01:32
olaffbash: ./configure: No such file or directory01:32
jacques_yidali01:32
pag!en01:32
ubotuThe #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat01:32
jacques_wo shi Mali de01:32
Marukouh???01:32
Marukoolaff please paste the result of ls01:32
Marukomali?01:32
jacques_danshi wo zai zhongguo xuexi01:32
jacques_dui01:32
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Marukofeizhou ren dui ba?01:32
jacques_zai xifei01:33
Marukoen01:33
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jacques_wo anjuan le Beryl danshi wo xianzai you yidian wenti01:33
Marukohai you biede zhongguo ren ma?01:33
jacques_dui a01:33
Marukoweishenme?01:33
olaffMaruko http://pastie.caboo.se/6558601:33
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Marukoolaff01:34
jacques_wo shi zai liuxue01:34
Marukoare you running kubuntu?01:34
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olaffyeah01:34
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Marukotype "firefox"01:34
Marukoen01:34
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Marukoni xihuan beijing ma?01:34
jacques_bu shi hen xihuan01:34
Marukohaha01:35
Marukowo ye shi!!01:35
jacques_wo xianzai zai wuhan01:35
Marukooooo01:35
Marukomei quguo de chengshi01:35
olaffsays "command not found"01:35
Marukoyinggai hen you yisi01:35
pagolaff, you can run it with ./firefox  (or ./firefox-bin  I'm not sure which) As far as I know FF with ships the ready binary in it's package.01:35
jacques_danshi wo bijiao xihuan yunnan01:35
Marukouh?01:35
Marukohow come?01:35
jacques_bu hao01:35
geniiolaff try:  mozilla-firefox01:35
olaffyeah ./firefox ran it pag01:35
charlleshi there01:35
jacques_dongtian tai leng le01:35
jacques_xiatian ye hen re01:35
Marukoshi de01:35
Marukokeshi wo xiguanle leng de dongtian01:35
jacques_ni keyi ban wo ma01:36
Marukobei yidali de dongtian feichang leng01:36
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Marukokan yi xia01:36
jacques_dui01:36
olaffdidnt like that either genii01:36
jacques_women feizhouren shou bu liao01:36
Marukohmmm01:36
Marukoolaff:01:36
jacques_wo zai shuo01:36
Marukoexit that directory and give sudo apt-get install firefox01:36
Marukoen01:36
jacques_wo de beryl you yidian wenti01:36
Marukoshenme yang de wenti01:36
jacques_wo anjuan le zoutian hen hao yong01:37
olaffso ./firefox ran it.... to clarify for eveyrone so kind as to help01:37
geniiolaff It can sometimes be different names from the apt-get name, I think the name for the binary is firefox-bin     so if in that directory, do ./firefox-bin01:37
jacques_danshi xianzai wo yi kai dou shi baiping de01:37
olaffsudo apt-get firefox is now getting an istalling the package01:37
Marukobaiping????01:37
Marukozenme hui shi?01:38
Marukoolaff01:38
Marukoyes01:38
jacques_dui pinmu jiu shi bai de01:38
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Marukoand it will set everything you need automatically01:38
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Marukowith icons and so on01:38
Marukooooo01:38
nuuguys, this is an english only channel01:38
Marukozhe ge01:38
Marukook01:38
Marukotranslation for you guys01:38
olaffcool, i forgot this the buntu was so good!01:38
MarukoJacques has a problem: he installed Beryl yesterday, it worked but now he restarted everything and all he got is a white screen01:39
Marukoanyway sorry01:39
olaffLOL so that installed it and added nice shortcut to the internet menu!01:39
jacques_olaff ubuntu is the coolest distro I has ever seen01:39
Marukobut I really think we didn't harm anybody01:39
ardchoillejacques_ should go to a channel which speaks his language01:39
olaffthanks guys!!01:39
olaff:D01:39
Marukoolaff: no problem01:39
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geniiardchoille Well, with an interpreter present it's not so horrible LOL01:40
Marukoright01:40
jacques_I speak english and french so ardchoille no problem there01:40
ardchoilleAh, ok01:40
Marukowe are just practicing our chinese01:41
olaffcan you get internet explorer for kubuntu, (for testing dodgy css) ?01:41
Marukohmmm01:41
Marukoolaff01:41
MarukoI don't know01:41
jacques_I have installed beryl and yesterday was working fine01:41
MarukoI know you can get opera Firefox Konqueror and so on01:41
jacques_even this morning it was ok01:41
Marukobut internet explorer....01:41
olaffahh found it.. good old google01:41
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jacques_Maruko: can it be a problem with the kernel upgrade01:42
geniiolaff No, there is only 1 non-windows version of Microsoft Explorer , but it is not for any Linux (Just an old Unix) and it is no longer found anyplace01:42
Marukowhen you upgraded it?01:42
olaffapparently genii there is one called ies4linux01:43
jacques_around 2:00 bejing time01:43
Marukook01:43
johannes_I installed it yesterday it works great!01:43
Marukowas it this morning?01:43
geniiolaff There may be some reverse-engineered version, but I am speaking of from Microsoft01:43
jacques_this afternoon01:43
Marukohmm01:43
johannes_http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page01:43
Marukothen I tthik it might definitely be a problem with the new kernel01:43
Marukohave you tried using the old kernel?01:44
olaffahh yeah genii, they dont like to share source, oh and then integrate the whole thing with their os loco01:44
jacques_ok Maruko let me restart with the old kernel and let you know01:44
Marukook01:44
Marukono problem01:44
olaffis it good johnannes?01:44
jacques_so see in 1mn01:44
Marukosee you01:44
johannes_I don't use for advanced stuff but it seems to be quite good01:44
olaffjohannes_: does it render the same as ie on win?01:45
johannes_it's a little different with the fonts01:45
geniiolaff There was a version 5 of Microsoft IE for Solaris or HP Unix, but it has not been around for awhile now, and the source code was also never (of course) supplied01:45
olaffahh thanks genii, bloody m$ eh!01:46
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geniiolaff :)01:47
johannes_olaff: 5.2, 5.5 and 6 is avaible in ies4linux...01:47
olaffsweet, thanks johannes_: ie 5.5 ~ shudder01:48
johannes_;)01:48
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Marukohow is it jacques_?01:48
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jacques_Maruko: it is a problem with the new kernel01:50
jacques_I boot the old one and every thing is fine01:50
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sebastien__lu le monde01:51
Marukook01:51
sebastien__vous etes des vrai ?01:51
Marukona mei wenti a01:51
geniiolaff BTW if you need to check css stuff, try running it thru  http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator.html#validate-by-upload to see if it's valid code01:51
Marukoso it's ok then01:51
sebastien__ou alors des bot ?01:51
jacques_dui mei wenti01:51
Maruko;)01:52
sebastien__english boulet01:52
olaffgood old ctrl+ shift + a in ff genii:01:52
olaff:01:52
olaff:)01:52
Marukojacques_ baochi lianxi01:52
jacques_i think that you did a good job with this ubuntu01:52
olaffdamn it oly does that in windows genii:01:53
jacques_keyi ni de zhongwen hen hao01:53
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sebastien__cc01:53
sebastien__re01:53
olaffor perhaaps its my toolbar i forget curse this brain01:53
sebastien__hello01:53
sebastien__hi01:53
sebastien__whatds do you are doing ?01:54
sebastien__whatds do you do01:54
sebastien__ii me a serial flooder01:54
sebastien__ii me a serial flooder01:54
sebastien__ii me a serial flooder01:54
sebastien__ii me a serial flooder01:54
sebastien__ii me a serial flooder01:54
Marukonalinali01:54
sebastien__ii me a serial flooder01:54
sebastien__ii me a serial flooder01:54
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sebastien__ii me a serial flooder01:54
sebastien__ii me a serial flooder01:54
sebastien__ii me a serial flooder01:54
sebastien__ii me a serial flooder01:54
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jacques_maruko: i hen hao01:54
Marukojacques_ ni de youjian dizhi shi shenme ? MSN ne?01:55
_4strOtoo late Jucato :p01:55
geniiIt still beats me why ppl spam for no reason other than boredom like that01:55
_4strOexcept for a ban :p01:55
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jacques_ni hai zai zhongguo ma?01:55
geniiJucato Hi BTW :)01:55
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jacques_benini_8@hotmail.com01:55
Jucatohi genii! long time!01:55
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jacques_yahoo ye keyi01:55
Jucatojacques_: English only please01:55
_4strOJucato: where do you from ?01:55
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Jucato_4strO: huh?01:56
jacques_from mali01:56
geniiJucato Yeah I've been working some construction at nights when I usually would be haunting the IRC :)01:56
_4strOsorry Jucato i should ask to jacques_ :p01:56
Jucatogenii: explains the long absence. glad to see you back :)01:56
geniiolaff I'll share the coffeepot with you LOL help yourself01:57
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Marukook jacques added you01:57
geniiJucato thanks :) :)01:57
jacques_ok you can add yahoo too01:57
olaffmmm, what a nice channel :) just like the os01:57
Marukook01:57
Marukotell me01:57
jacques_jacwuhan2003@yahoo.fr01:57
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_4strOjacques_: where do you from ?01:58
olaffi guess france :)01:58
johannes_stripper point! I take my panties off...01:58
Jucato!language | johannes_01:58
ubotujohannes_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:58
jacques_yes it is01:58
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johannes_sorry... :|01:59
_4strOni hai zai zhongguo ma? < wich language is it ?01:59
olaffwhoo, call me sherlock holmes! :)01:59
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Marukojacques01:59
jacques_chinese01:59
Marukoseems like I cannot add you to yahoo01:59
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jacques_no problem01:59
Jucatojacques_: this is an English channel. please speak in English. thanks02:00
_4strOthx jacques_02:00
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jacques_jucato i will02:00
mogulhello02:00
Marukojacques_: I cannot add you to yahoo02:00
Marukoit gives me an error02:00
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jacques_you can tell me your yahoo nad I will add you02:01
_4strOchinese firewall Maruko ?02:01
_4strOlol02:01
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Maruko....02:01
Marukook02:01
JucatoMaruko, jacques_: please take the conversation in private. thanks :)02:01
Marukosolitary_sanity02:01
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Marukook02:02
MarukoJucato, sorry02:02
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geniiUnusually quiet for support issues this hour :) Must be a Good Thing02:03
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olaffwhy isnt there a good translation thing around yet?02:03
jacques_ok I will02:03
mogulI've just tried to install kubuntu 7.04 but it fails to start the x server. When I switch to another (character) screen I can log in, but cannot start x even.02:03
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Jucatogenii: it's a good thing.means that I can get back to studying :)02:03
jacques_Maruko!02:03
mogulIf somebody knows a solution please tell me.02:03
Jucatomogul: what happens when you type "startx"02:03
mogulfatal error02:04
mogul10402:04
chuenHi. Can someone tell me where my lp0 migh be located - or how I find out? It's a USB printer.02:04
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Jucatomogul: what did you install before this happened?02:04
jacques_I think that there is a problem when using scim chinese02:04
mogulnothing, it is from the live cd02:04
Jucatooh.. hm...02:04
geniimogul The livecd itself fails to boot into X server?02:04
mogulyesterday I've tried it in vmware, it worked fine02:05
mogulyes02:05
moguleven in safe graphics mode02:05
Jucatomogul: well, VMWare isn't really a good test of hardware compatibility02:05
moguli know02:05
_4strOchuen: did you configure your printer ?02:05
jacques_mogul02:05
Jucatoif it runs in vmware, doesn't mean it will run on your hardware02:05
kurterm in kubuntu feisty where is the restricted drivers manager02:06
_4strOchuen: K / system settings / printer02:06
mogulyou've right02:06
chuen_4strO: Um, kind of.02:06
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jacques_what graphic card are you using?02:06
Jucatomogul: maybe it's a problem with your video card. have you tried other Linux distros?02:06
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mogulati mobility radeon x130002:06
chuen_4strO: What I mean is where will it be located on my system? which directory ..02:06
mogulof course02:07
geniimogul Since you can access the TTY screens, it may be that the video is being shown on a secondary video card. If you have more than one video plug for monitors, try the others to see if it comes up there02:07
mogulI used linux mint, which is Edgy based02:07
_4strOchuen: it's a printer why should have it a directory ?02:07
_4strOchuen: it's a printer why should it have a directory ?02:07
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mogulOK, I try to connect a monitor02:08
chuen_4strO: I mean (for example  is located /dev/usb/lp002:08
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johannes_chue: I think it's in dev directory in root02:08
Marukojacques_: yes?02:08
chuen_4strO: It odesn't seem to be, and I can't locate it.02:08
chuenjohannes_: Thx I'll have a look.02:09
_4strOchuen: in a console : locate lp0 ?02:09
jacques_scim chinese is working fine but I found that when I install it I have a segmentation fault with some applications02:09
chuen_4strO: Ok, thx.02:10
chuenThat's found it.02:10
_4strOnice :)02:10
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geniimogul Did you find the X server was showing on the other monitor plug?02:11
mogulI've seen the same output in the monitor as in the lcd screen02:13
kurterm in kubuntu feisty where is the restricted drivers manager02:14
mogulI switched to the monitor so the laptop's screen switched off, and tried to start x, but the same result02:14
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johannes_kurt: i'm sitting on the same question02:14
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geniimogul OK. It is likely then that when run in the VM it works because the hardware is translated to the virtual machine which runs the install, but when running the cd directly, the driver by default for the video is not good. With ATI this is often the case. You may need to do a command line install from the alternate CD, then afterwards edit the xorg.conf files02:16
jacques_mogul: what graphic card are you using?02:17
mogulati mobility radeon x130002:17
geniimogul Especially the vesa driver on the newer ATI goes strange02:17
mogulgenii: do you mean, that I should download the alternate kubuntu cd?02:17
jacques_I am using ati mobility radeon 9000 and everything is ok02:17
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mogulwitch this card is ok everything in the previous version02:18
jacques_did run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?02:18
geniimogul That would be my recommendation. From there you can do a basic installation. Then to put on the KDE you can do:   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:18
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mogulnot yet. Should I try?02:18
jacques_yes02:19
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jacques_and after do <startx>02:19
geniimogul Likely even after that it will not begin, but from a console login you will be able to change the settings in the xorg.conf file to make the card work properly02:19
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jacques_I have an old ati mobility rage 4mb02:20
jacques_and kubuntu is running very fine02:20
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geniiThe post-radeon cards are often problemmatic02:24
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mogulI've tried02:26
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mogulno success02:26
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MrDigimonCan anyone help me? i had to cancel the dist-upgrade because of thunder02:27
MrDigimonand now i cant fix it02:27
mogulxio: fatal io error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on x server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.02:27
MrDigimonkde wont start and the same with X02:28
_4strOMrDigimon: the dist-upgrade was stop by the thunder ?02:28
MrDigimonno i had to cancel it02:28
Ash-Fox!pidgin02:28
ubotupidgin is the new name for Gaim forced by AOL's legal dept. It wasn't released in time for Feisty. Expect it in gutsy. See http://www.pidgin.im/index.php for more info.02:28
_4strOso why dont just finish it know ?02:28
_4strOnow*02:28
MrDigimonsome of the packs took damage (i guess) so now i cant install even if i force it02:29
juanmy kubuntu installation hangs whenever i try to run it graphically02:29
juanmy ubuntu / kubuntu live cd hangs, but not my alternate install cd02:30
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_4strOMrDigimon: what's happen whenn you : sudo dist-upgrade ?02:30
MrDigimoni already run it as root02:30
_4strOsudo apt-get dist-upgrade (i dont remeber the exact command :)02:30
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MrDigimonits that but i already run as root02:30
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_4strOand what happend ?02:31
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juanusing an nvidia card02:31
MrDigimonit cant correct the depencies02:31
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MrDigimonthat is what it says02:31
_4strOcan you past the error message ?02:31
MrDigimoni use another comp just now because i cant use anything with X02:32
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MrDigimonsome of the lib packs cant be fixed or something like that02:33
MrDigimoncan i put in an live cd and run dist-upgrade?02:33
MrDigimonor must i try to solve it02:33
adaptr..or you could just use a console02:34
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_4strOMrDigimon: adaptr is right02:34
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adaptrfark those X-addicts02:35
_4strOMrDigimon: the errror message give you a command (dpkg ..) to fix02:35
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MrDigimonit says something about some packs that it cant correct the depencies but it dont give me any command02:35
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_4strOMrDigimon: try to : apt-get update02:38
MrDigimonok i try it02:39
_4strOMrDigimon: and then apt-get upgrade02:39
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MrDigimondidnt work02:39
_4strOapt-get update ??02:40
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MrDigimonyeah02:40
MrDigimondidnt work02:40
_4strOwhat he said ?02:40
MrDigimonit upgraded the list02:40
BluesKaj!upgrade02:40
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)02:40
MrDigimonand then i dist-upgraded again02:41
MrDigimonbut it came the same error02:41
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MrDigimonshould i try apt-get upgrade only?02:41
ubuntu_hi02:41
BluesKajwhat error MrDigimon ?02:41
ubuntu_i broke my kubuntu :(02:41
_4strOyes MrDigimon02:41
ubuntu_well it wasnt really me as it was the nvidia driver02:42
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MrDigimonE: cant correct depencies02:42
ubuntu_after i installed the new-nvidia-driver X11 wont load02:42
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ubuntu_im on livecd now02:42
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ubuntu_any reasons why?02:42
BluesKajMrDigimon, dpkg --configure -a02:42
MrDigimonok02:43
MrDigimonwill try02:43
_4strOthat the one i searched :)02:43
_4strOdpkg --configure -a02:43
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WeeJeWelhey all02:44
MrDigimonlooks like its trying to fix the pack now :D02:44
_4strO:)02:44
WeeJeWelanyone knows how to turn off the automatic file system checking on every boot?02:44
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_4strOweird he didn't give you the command in the previous error message02:44
_4strOgave*02:44
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ReMiiRuruWhere can I check if a tablet will work with linux? ._.;02:45
BluesKajubuntu_  : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:46
MrDigimonwill it install every program from the feisty list or only the ones with errors?02:46
MrDigimonthe command u gave blueskaj02:46
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BluesKajit doesn't install any as far as I know, it just removes dependencies and leaves it up to you to go to the app site to found out what dependencies have to installed beforehand02:48
_4strOMrDigimon: you should sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after it finish02:48
MrDigimonit gave a error about that qtparted & kdelibsomething aint working02:48
ubuntu_how big should /boot be on #ubuntu?02:49
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BluesKajanyway , i have to go ...bb in 6-7 hrs02:49
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atzehiya02:49
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_4strOMrDigimon: try : apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:50
ubuntu_anyone know how big /boot should be?02:50
atzedoes anybody know how to pass arguments to the xserver when starting kdm?02:50
atzei need to run it with -verboselevel 602:50
gamienatorHello02:50
_4strOubuntu mind is about 40Mo02:50
atzeto check the log...02:50
llutzatze: edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc02:50
_4strOmine*02:50
gamienatorI need the plugin which i can play mp3 Files02:50
epimeth!msfonts02:50
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer02:50
ubuntu_!boot02:50
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto02:50
atzellutz: thnx!02:50
gamienatorI need the Packagename02:51
_4strOgamienator: use apt-cache search or adept :)02:51
ubuntu__4strO: 40mb /boot?02:51
atzellutz: that was easy, thnx!02:51
juan278is the only problem with the new kernal changing the sda sdb to hda hdb ?02:51
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_4strOubuntu_: yes but i have 3 kernel atm02:51
llutzatze: np02:51
gamienatorw00t ?02:51
MrDigimonhow can i configure the depencies in a specific pack02:52
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_4strOMrDigimon: i dont understand, did you try apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade now ?02:52
MrDigimonthe dpkg --configure -a returns a error on 2 packs02:53
gamienatorI don02:53
MrDigimoni cant run dist-upgrade before these 2 packs are fixed02:53
gamienatori don't understand ^^02:53
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_4strOMrDigimon: you think or it say it to you ?02:53
_4strOgamienator: use the package manager adept02:54
MrDigimonit returns tha same error every time02:54
_4strOMrDigimon: ok02:54
gamienatorI need the NAME ...02:54
gamienatori need the name of the package that must download xD02:54
MrDigimonon what?02:54
_4strOgamienator: how can we give you the name ?02:54
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MrDigimonkdelibsomething and qtparted02:55
gamienatorto play mp3 Files02:55
gamienatorand Shoutcast streams02:55
MrDigimonthey dont work!02:55
_4strO!codecs | gamienator02:55
ubotugamienator: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:55
MrDigimonhelp02:55
juan278MrDigimon:  i think you can force the updates but im not sure if its -f or -m02:56
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epimethokay... so how do I install Tahoma?02:57
epimethor fonts in general?02:57
epimethoohh.... hrm02:58
MrDigimoni can use -f with apt-get but how do i force dpkg?02:59
_4strOMrDigimon: try to : rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade02:59
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gamienatoroos, i have forget, that i have here Kubuntu 6.06 Can I update Kubuntu with synaptic ?02:59
niclashi, I am extremely new to this so forgive me if I do something wrong03:00
_4strO!upgrade |  gamienator03:00
ubotugamienator: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)03:00
niclasbut I need som help with kubuntu feisty03:00
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_4strO!ask | niclas03:01
ubotuniclas: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:01
MrDigimonok _4stro i will try that03:01
Ace2016_4strO: maybe he is typing the question03:01
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niclastwo things, can't get to my Lacie external HD and my keyboard stops functioning after a while03:01
_4strOMrDigimon: you should probably remove all the file in the  /var/cache/apt/archives/partial/ too03:01
Ace2016niclas: time to get a new keyboard?03:02
niclashm, I never had any problem with it in Win XP03:02
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juan278niclas: what connection does the keyboard have03:02
niclasUSB03:03
MrDigimon_4stro: im deleting the archives now03:03
niclasand my mouse to, but I put an adapter on it so they wouldn't interfere withh eachother03:03
MrDigimoni will delete everything in partail soon03:04
_4strOok03:04
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Ace2016niclas: what bios do you use?03:04
Ace2016niclas: what motherboard?03:04
epimethis it enough to just move the two tahoma fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/ or do I need to do something more in order to see them in firefox?03:04
juan278what have you tried, to mount your HD, i assume its an external USB drive? my friends just needed to be unpluged and then replugged, but if your running the latest kernel there are lots of problems03:04
niclashm, don't know, I'm now that into computers, but wait and I'll check03:05
Ace2016i was just reading this: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/9/27/11003:05
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niclas Asus P5N32-SLI SE Deluxe, nForce4 SLI X16, Socket-775, GbLAN, DDR2, PCI-Ex1603:06
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gamienatorlol03:06
gamienatorI cant open the update Site :(03:06
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niclascan that be my motherboard?03:06
niclasmy HD uses firewire03:07
mogulI've got a strange problem. The gtk applications became black surfaced, and of course the black text don't appear on that.03:07
juan278does anything happen when you plug the HD in?03:07
Ace2016niclas: no idea, if you have a Legacy support option in bios maybe turning it off would work03:07
niclasand is NTFS configured, but I have installet ntfs-3g so that shouldn't be a problem03:07
Ace2016all the problems seem usb related03:08
MrDigimonguess i have to reinstall the whole damn thing, i hit enter before i finished writing so it became: rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives/partail/*03:08
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niclaslegacy support?03:08
MrDigimonso now is the whole directory lost lol03:08
_4strOMrDigimon: no pb03:08
niclashow do I turn it off?03:08
Ace2016niclas: try running dmesg|grep usb  in konsole, that may show the errors03:08
_4strOMrDigimon: that was exactly what you should do :)03:09
MrDigimonis there anything to do or must i reinstall03:09
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gamienatorthe update notes are for Ubuntu !!!03:09
juan278niclas:  to turn legacey support of you have to go into your bios settings, F2 at boot03:09
_4strOMrDigimon: try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade03:09
MrDigimonok03:09
gamienatorlol03:09
gamienatorsorry03:09
gamienatorthere is it for Kubuntu sorry xD03:09
MrDigimoni have to copy 6gb from my homefolder if else03:09
avantasia_exit03:09
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niclasok, could it do any damage if I turn it off?03:10
Ace2016gemidjy|out: well dmesg should show the error with bios, he doesn't have to bother restarting03:10
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Ace2016niclas: damage what? run that command first to find out if you even need to03:10
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MrDigimonit dont work ARCHIVES MISSING lololol03:10
niclasthe command to turn it off?03:10
Ace2016niclas: Alt+F2, type konsole, then run it, then type dmesg|grep usb  at the prompt03:11
gemidjy|outAce2016: ??03:11
gemidjy|out:)03:11
MrDigimonguess i have to copy 6gb from my homefolder then lol03:11
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MrDigimonbut now is all my fine progs lost, sob...03:11
Ace2016gemidjy|out: sorry wrong person03:11
_4strOMrDigimon: ???03:12
niclasI'm in the console and typed what you asked me, but I don't understand what that which came up means03:12
_4strOMrDigimon: ARCHIVE MISSING with apt-get update ?03:12
MrDigimonnope upgrade03:12
Ace2016!pastebin | niclas03:12
ubotuniclas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:12
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MrDigimonpartail is lost lol03:12
Ace2016copy the output there, then someone who knows more can help03:12
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_4strOMrDigimon: your box is xonnect to the internet right ?03:13
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MrDigimonyep03:13
MrDigimonwhy do u ask?03:13
_4strObecause of the error message03:14
_4strOweird03:14
Ace2016niclas: and also copy the output of  dmesg|grep USB  to pastebin03:14
MrDigimonproblem is that i use wireless so i cant connect lol03:14
niclas[    3.225437]  usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs03:14
niclas[    3.225458]  usbcore: registered new interface driver hub03:14
_4strOMrDigimon: loool put an ethernet in it03:14
niclas[    3.264975]  usbcore: registered new device driver usb03:14
niclas[    5.437148]  usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice03:14
niclas[    5.539625]  usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice03:14
Jucato_!paste | niclas03:15
ubotuniclas: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:15
niclas[    5.962615]  usb 1-9: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 303:15
niclas[    6.100863]  usb 1-9: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice03:15
niclas[    6.740004]  usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice03:15
MrDigimondont have a cable thats long enough lol03:15
niclas[    7.145547]  usb 3-1: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 203:15
niclas[    7.379354]  usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice03:15
niclas[    7.475163]  usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice03:15
niclas[    7.490513]  usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev03:15
_4strOMrDigimon: so move your box :)03:15
Ace2016stop03:15
niclas[    7.501285]  input: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000]  on usb-0000:00:0b.0-103:15
Ace2016niclas: stop03:15
niclas[    7.518268]  input: USB HID v1.11 Device [Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000]  on usb-0000:00:0b.0-103:15
niclas[    7.518278]  usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid03:15
niclas[    7.518281]  drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver03:15
niclas[    7.577832]  usb usb5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice03:15
Jucato_ugh why isn't chanserv responding03:15
niclas[   16.891984]  usbcore: registered new interface driver xpad03:16
Jucato_!ops03:16
niclas[   16.891988]  drivers/usb/input/xpad.c: driver for Xbox controllers v0.1.603:16
niclas[   17.221220]  usbcore: registered new interface driver rtl81803:16
niclas:) sorry if I seem stupid, I'm REALLY new to this!03:16
niclasok03:16
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal03:16
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MrDigimoncant, the hub is unreachable where it is now lol03:16
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MrDigimonguess i have to reinstall the whole damn thing :D03:16
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MrDigimonits the third time i have to do it lol03:17
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_4strOMrDigimon: if you cant connect to the internet you dont have choice, but remember that if you connect the box to the internet, your problem might be solved ;)03:17
niclasI think I got kicked out03:18
niclas...03:18
MrDigimonwhat can i do if i get it to internet?03:18
_4strOMrDigimon: or you can try with a CD03:18
Ace2016niclas: go to   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/   then type in your username, go into konsole, run:   dmesg|grep usb && dmesg|grep USB   ,copy the output paste it into the box on the website, then click paste, then copy and paste the url into here,03:18
_4strOMrDigimon: just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade03:18
niclasaha, the url03:18
niclassorry!!!03:18
Ace2016niclas: you got kicked for pasteing that huge thing here03:18
MrDigimonbut see u later guys i reinstall the shit now03:18
niclashttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2308103:19
niclasis that right?03:19
MrDigimon(even if its booring)03:19
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Dodo!nvidia03:19
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:19
_4strOMrDigimon: ... windows style :p03:19
MrDigimonbye03:19
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_4strOalalalalala ....03:19
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niclasI realized that, but I couldn't figure out what else to do with it03:20
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Ace2016niclas: run this:  dmesg|grep usb && dmesg|grep USB && lsusb03:20
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Ace2016then give us a link to the paste03:20
Ace2016it'll show the usb info and whats connected to it03:20
niclashttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23083/03:22
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Ace2016niclas: is your hard disk plugged in?03:22
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niclasthe firewire one?03:23
niclasyes, and turned on, but I can't get to it03:23
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Ace2016was it turned on when the command was run?03:23
niclasby the way, are you trying to help me with the keyboard or the HD now?03:23
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niclasyes, it has been all day03:24
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Ace2016does ls /dev/sd* show anything? it should show sd0 or sd103:26
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_4strOAce2016: not even now with the new kernel ;)03:27
Ace2016_4strO: new kernel?03:27
niclashttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23084/03:27
_4strOAce2016: they turn back on hda ...03:27
_4strO2.6.20-1603:28
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Ace2016_4strO: so whats new with it? i'm running 2.6.2103:28
_4strOthe new ubuntu official ;)03:29
Ash-Foxpidgin has a strange configure script: checking for me pot o' gold... no03:29
Ace2016niclas: what does df show, it should show all the partitions and their mount points, i'm guessing one  isn't mounted03:29
Ace2016Ash-Fox: lol03:29
Marukohi people03:29
niclasdf?03:29
Marukoanybody can help me?03:29
Ace2016niclas: yea df03:30
MarukoI want to install gnome, just the DE not all the programs03:30
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Marukoonly the DE03:30
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Marukohow can install it?03:30
niclasI don't know what df is...03:30
_4strOniclas: just type : df -h in a console ;)03:30
_4strOyou will see03:30
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Ace2016niclas: df is a command, to run in konsole, output looks something like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23088/03:31
niclashttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23087/03:32
Ace2016_4strO: looks like /dev/sdb1 isn't mouned03:33
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niclashehe I don't understand a shit of what we've been doing here03:33
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niclasI feel like the stupidest sod there is03:33
_4strOniclas: the df command is very usefull to know space on your HD03:34
Ace2016niclas: just comparing what devices have been detected, and the mounted ones03:34
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Ace2016niclas: the reasoning being, if your external disk is detected then it may not be mounted, and if its not mounted its not giong to be used03:34
niclasok, but I don't really know what to look for in df03:35
Ace2016cd /media, sudo mkdir disk, sudo mount /dev/sdb1 disk,03:35
niclasI see the text, but I don't know what it means03:35
_4strOniclas: try to unplugged your HD and replug it03:35
niclasok03:36
Ace2016niclas: not looking in df, we're comparing df with the output of ls /dev/sd*03:36
Ace2016_4strO: oh yea good idea, ls /dev/sd* with the device unplugged and with it plugged will show which one it is03:36
_4strOniclas: something happend ?03:38
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niclasdoes ls /dev/sd* show the detected ones and df show the mounted ones?03:38
Ace2016yup03:38
niclasthe same thing happened as when I just turn it on03:38
waspiushello...i have a question..i have been told about some exploding windows under kubuntu and i read about it also..it is a kubuntu package or can it be used on other distros as well?03:39
niclasa window comes up asking me what to do with the new drive03:39
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Ace2016niclas: its detected fine, just click ok, it should open in a window03:39
^RiaN^_4strO: can i ask something03:40
Ace2016open in a new window, choose that03:40
niclasand I always choose "display in new window" or whatever it says in english...running the swedish version myself03:40
_4strO^RiaN^: ?03:40
^RiaN^_4strO: how to open music file from ssh03:40
_4strO^RiaN^: ouch :)03:40
niclasbut there is no window, that is my problem03:40
rmd_are there any desklets in superkaramba worth using?03:40
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_4strO^RiaN^: open on the remote box ?03:41
Ace2016niclas: so the window never pops up?03:41
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niclasnope03:41
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pc_cs03:41
pc_valaki segtene?03:41
_4strOpc_: speak english plz03:41
Ace2016niclas: Alt+f2, type media:/ click run, it should open a window and show you the drives, click on the external one03:41
waspiusdoes anyone know?03:41
pc_can anyone help me pls?03:42
^RiaN^_4strO:  what's the command03:42
Ace2016!ask03:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:42
pc_i installed03:42
pc_ntfs client03:42
^RiaN^_4strO:  i've open my ws now usiong ssh03:42
pc_but it doesnt work on my kubuntu03:42
^RiaN^_4strO:  i've open my ws now using ssh03:42
_4strOwaspius: you talk about beryl or composite ?03:42
niclasfound it, but a messege of error pops up: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 100003:42
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waspius_4strO: well i am using beryl..i dont know though what is used under kubuntu for doing that03:43
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pc_:S03:43
_4strOniclas: it's a NTFS hard drive ?03:43
pc_?03:43
niclasyep03:43
pc_nobody helps me:S03:43
niclasbut that shouldn't be a problem03:43
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_4strOpc_: ^RiaN^ you should try mplayer yoursong03:44
_4strOoups03:44
niclasI think, I installed ntfs-3g so that I could read and write to a ntfs HD03:44
pc_but where can i dl it?03:44
Ace2016niclas: well i can't help with ntfs sorry, i have to go03:44
Ace2016bye all03:44
_4strOpc_: did you install ntfs-config ?03:45
Daisuke_Idopc_: probably because you haven't given us any idea of what the problem is03:45
_4strObye Ace201603:45
niclasok03:45
^RiaN^_4strO: i've open my workstation pc and want to play music from my workstation from ssh connection03:45
niclasthanks anyway!03:45
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waspius_4strO: any ideas?03:46
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_4strOwaspius: dont understand your problem, if you talk about 3d effects and all stuff like this, you should search on the web about beryl03:47
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_4strOberyl-manager03:47
titanix88hendaus_: :)03:47
waspius_4strO: i am currently using beryl..but i dont seem to have the option of exploding windows etc...which i have only seen under kubuntu03:48
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guillermohi03:51
guillermohow do i make kaffeine use usbtitles03:52
guillermo?03:52
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_4str1oups03:53
_4str1^RiaN^: still there ?03:53
^RiaN^yes03:53
^RiaN^u change ur nick03:54
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_4str1^RiaN^: your music is on your server and you want play it on your workstation ?03:54
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ahmedguys , how to remove kde, without removing its applications ?/03:54
_4str1ahmed: think it's impossible03:54
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Jucatoahmed: what do you mean? KDE is made up of applications.03:55
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_4str1^RiaN^: sorry for my nick, internet deconnection03:56
^RiaN^no prob03:56
_4str1so am i right with this : your music is on your server and you want play it on your workstation ?03:56
^RiaN^_4str1: i've an cyber cafe, im using ssh connection to my ws03:57
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_4str1^RiaN^: did you try mplayer yoursong ?03:59
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^RiaN^_4str1: exsample, im connect to 192.168.0.1 and want to playing music from that ws03:59
^RiaN^i jus want to surprise them03:59
^RiaN^:)03:59
^RiaN^:D03:59
_4str1oki oki03:59
henrik_s_hi, my linux is booting and don't pass one thing about LDAP connection, how I ignore that and proceed?04:00
^RiaN^_4str1: i've try "open" command04:00
^RiaN^but it doesn't play04:00
_4str1^RiaN^: try : mplayer yoursong04:00
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^RiaN^what command should im use04:00
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^RiaN^ok04:01
^RiaN^i'll try04:01
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_4str1^RiaN^: i had try, it works fine at home ;)04:03
rmd_ok04:03
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rmd_i downloaded the ubuntu emerald theme for kde... but how do i install it?  there is no theme file (except for theme.ini)...04:03
_4str1rmd_: you're using emerald ?04:04
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^RiaN^_4str1: how do i resize my swap partition04:04
_4str1rmd_: right click on the beryl icon in the systray and select the emerald theme manager04:04
^RiaN^:)04:04
_4str1^RiaN^: did you try mplayer ?04:04
rmd_oh04:04
^RiaN^_4str1: what is beryl04:05
rmd_i wasn't aware that emerald was its own thing04:05
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^RiaN^yes04:05
^RiaN^it's playing04:05
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_4str1^RiaN^: i cant advise you about resizing partition, didn't want to break your box ;)04:05
^RiaN^ok04:05
niclasanyone that can help me with my keyboard, it stops working after a while, I'm using feisty and an USB Microsoft keyboard04:05
_4str1and i'm not sure about the manipulation, didn't do it myself04:05
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_4str1^RiaN^: beryl is a window manager that give you many beautifull effects04:06
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_4str1!beryl | ^RiaN^04:07
ubotu^RiaN^: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects04:07
^RiaN^ohh04:07
_4str1if you try it, you will definitkly be addict04:07
^RiaN^im only using 256mb of ram04:08
^RiaN^can i use beryl04:08
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_4str1^RiaN^: i think it's possible, but your box will became a little slow04:09
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_4str1(sorry for my uggly english)04:10
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^RiaN^my english is not so good04:10
_4str1niclas: sorry i have no solution for your keyboard04:10
_4str1^RiaN^: so you didn't notice anything about my english, fine :)04:11
^RiaN^:)04:11
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^RiaN^_4str1: how to change zip format to tar.gz04:12
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_4str1dont know if you can do it in one time, you probably have to unzip then tar gz it04:13
_4str1^RiaN^: tar --help ;)04:13
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JuJuBeeWhen I go to kcontrol or system settings, I cannot open User Management.  Why? and How do I fix?04:14
_4str1JuJuBee: what's happend whenn you try ?04:15
^RiaN^i got error when try to unzip zip file04:15
JuJuBeeWhen I am using kcontrol, I just get the same thing as when I click on system settings. (THe list of options available).04:15
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JuJuBeeWhen I use system settings app... I get a message about an orphaned module during last upgrade.04:16
_4str1JuJuBee: sudp apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade04:16
JuJuBeeDid upgrade this morning.  Seems that after upgrade, I lose user management.04:16
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_4str1JuJuBee: or just type userconfig in a console04:18
_4str1kdesu userconfig04:18
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JuJuBeekdesu userconfig returned many errors04:20
bbeck_I was just wondering if anyone can see the text in the "more" drop down on google using Konqueror 3.5.7?04:21
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ubuntu_hello04:22
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MaxDaoright now  installing ubuntu on my PC, decided to chat while waiting04:23
JuJuBeekdesu errors - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23091/04:23
JuJuBee*kdesu userconfig04:23
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JuJuBeeAny ideas how I can get back the user manager in kcontrol/system settings04:24
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JucatoJuJuBee: try reinstalling the "kde-guidance" package04:26
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Kubuntu^userany active user willing to help me ?04:28
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forcerainKubuntu^user: what's up?04:29
ubuntu_!anyone | Kubuntu^user04:29
ubotuKubuntu^user: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:29
Kubuntu^userkubuntu installation hang at 82%04:29
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WindowsUninstallHi all04:29
forcerainKubuntu^user: check the CD04:29
forcerainuse the CD test on the boot menu04:29
Kubuntu^userchecked..no errors04:29
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forcerainwhat stage does it show?04:29
Kubuntu^userit hang at 82% "configuring atp"04:29
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Kubuntu^userany ideas04:29
forcerainand it always does that?04:30
ubuntu_Kubuntu^user: Do you have a network card plugged in?04:30
WindowsUninstallI've a question: Can I order about 100 kubuntu CDs or more for a very important event (called PLUTO meeting (last pluto meeting page: http://www.pluto.it/files/meeting2001/english/index.html ))?04:30
Kubuntu^userubuntu_: yes....im connected to a router04:30
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Kubuntu^userwhich is adsl - router - pc04:30
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ubuntu_Kubuntu^user: Plug it out before you start04:31
forcerainKubuntu^user: could try turning as many devices off as you can on the BIOS04:31
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Kubuntu^userubuntu_,forcerain: ok i will04:31
forcerainactually do what ubuntu_ says.. sounds like he knows what's up here04:32
ompaulWindowsUninstall, go to shipit.ubuntu.com04:32
forcerain:)04:32
ubuntu_WindowsUninstall: Technically yeah :-)04:32
Kubuntu^userubuntu_,forcerain: thanks guys, i'll try ur tips :D04:32
ubuntu_Kubuntu^user: It's trying to reach the server and having some issues. it knows that it's on the network so it keeps trying04:32
Kubuntu^useric204:33
WindowsUninstallompaul, Also I need to get a reply in less time as possible, can i send a mail to anyone?04:33
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ompaulWindowsUninstall, that is the place with an email address attached to it if I recall correctly04:34
ompaulyou need to order first04:34
The_MachineA few questions!  1.)  How to make it so that whatever random programs I had open 10 days ago don't automatically start when I restart X?04:34
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ubuntu_Kubuntu^user: Not sure why that was there. I think it was to download all the patches released since the Cd was printed04:35
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JuJuBeeJucato_ : No good.  Still get error.04:36
JuJuBeeSomething about last upgrade and orphaned control module.04:36
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JuJuBeeI did recently install the KDE theme manager.  Could that have something to do with it?04:37
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dr_willisMinataku,   You awake?!?!?!04:41
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_dac_Jisao,morning04:43
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JuJuBeeAny suggestions ? Last upgrade broke user management.  Won't load due to orphaned control module.04:44
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WindowsUninstallompaul, I have another important question: does kubuntu/ubuntu CDs cotains only free software?04:47
ompaulthey are totally free to copy and redistribute04:47
linija2Need help: Trying to mount lvm encrypt usb but it's saying "must specify filesystem type" (-t ext3 /dev/xxx doesn't work)04:47
linija2any ideas?04:48
WindowsUninstallompaul, That means that each thing on the cd respect the 4 foundamental freedom?04:48
WindowsUninstall*freedoms04:48
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The_MachineHow to make it so that whatever random programs I had open 10 days ago don't automatically start when I restart X?04:49
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The_Machine(in KDE)04:49
dr_willisWindowsUninstall,  never heard of that befor.. :) they follow the GPL guidelines04:49
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dr_willisThe_Machine,  in most cases you can close the programs. log out. and kde 'should' save the session.04:50
dr_willisthers also a save-session menu item some where.04:50
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dr_willisUnless stuff is getting ran from the Autostart dir.04:50
The_Machine;)  nothing is in the Autostart dir - and i have made sure all programs are closed when exiting.04:50
The_Machine:/04:50
ompaulWindowsUninstall, you should read the website, some of the stuff does not have source04:50
dr_willis!find startup04:51
ubotuFound: libstartup-notification0, libstartup-notification0-dev, startup-tasks04:51
dr_willisthers some kde tool for that as well.. but i forget its name04:51
dr_willis!find start04:51
ubotuFound: libstartup-notification0, libstartup-notification0-dev, startup-tasks, system-config-kickstart, upstart (and 12 others)04:51
WindowsUninstalldr_willis: see it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software#Definition04:51
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ompaulI am now busy04:52
ompaul:)04:52
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dr_willisMost free software uses a small set of licenses. The most popular of these are:    GPL.04:53
dr_willisso that site says - GPL software follows your     freedoms.04:53
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Subsonic_hey guys04:53
WindowsUninstalldr_willis, also MIT, BSD and others04:54
Subsonic_anyone running linuxmce?04:54
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dr_willisyes..04:54
dr_willisSubsonic_,  no to that : )04:54
dr_willisheh04:54
The_Machinehmm.  so what's startup-tasks04:54
Subsonic_hehe thanks04:54
dr_williswhat the heck is linuxmce?04:54
Subsonic_thought I was in then :-)04:54
dr_willis!info startup-tasks04:54
ubotustartup-tasks: definitions of essential tasks to run on startup. In component main, is required. Version 0.3.8-1 (feisty), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB04:54
WindowsUninstalldr_willis, I'm asking because I'm not sure about wich softwares are distributed with the CD04:54
Subsonic_have you heard of ms mce04:54
Subsonic_??04:54
dr_willisthe ubuntu/kubuntu site has a list of what all is included.04:55
Subsonic_linuc media centre edition04:55
Subsonic_linux media centre edition04:55
dr_willisSubsonic_,  Thats a scary idea. :) in many ways04:55
dr_willisSubsonic_,  got a MythTV box - thats close. heh04:55
Subsonic_tp compete with windows media centre edition04:55
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Subsonic_do you wa me to pm you the url?04:55
dr_willisSubsonic_,  i dont really need it. :)04:56
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dr_willisWindwsMediaCenter is like -- being cancled i thought.04:56
Subsonic_it is not my product I am jumt about to install it04:56
Subsonic_not likely04:56
Subsonic_they just released a new version in vista04:56
dr_williswell the actualk "media center os' is being cancled. its all getting merged into vista04:56
dr_willisno more HP media center  pc's and so on.04:56
dr_willisnow if MS would just eliminate the 10+ variants of vista...04:57
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dr_willis(like that will happen)04:57
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melinagreetings. How can I localize (greek) my apps?04:57
melinaI added Greek as the default in the control center, but only firefox switched to greek04:58
thomax__ does anyone know a console app to read mp3 headers?04:58
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WindowsUninstallompaul, Does stallman has said anything about kubuntu? I'm doing this questions because stallman is coming in our city and for the event we wan't to distribute CDs but we can't do distribute cd's that aren't 100% free. :) Sorry If I'm too verbose04:59
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zhangkaiHow can i drag the windows from one destop to anther desktop?04:59
dr_willisthomax__,  provberly several dozen of them out. check the repos yet?05:00
dr_willis!find mp305:00
ubotuFound: libgmp3-dev, libgmp3-doc, libgmp3c2, beep-media-player, checkmp3 (and 41 others)05:00
dr_willis!info checkmp305:00
ubotucheckmp3: Identify MP3s that do not follow the MP3 format. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.98-6 (feisty), package size 20 kB, installed size 116 kB05:00
ompaulWindowsUninstall pm05:00
ompaulWindowsUninstall pm me05:00
|lostbyte|thomax__, maybe easytag05:00
WindowsUninstallompaul, OK05:00
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dr_willis!info easytag05:01
ubotueasytag: viewing, editing and writing ID3 tags. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 788 kB, installed size 2552 kB05:01
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thomax__tags != headers05:01
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dr_willisGuess its off to google then. or fire up the package manager and start searching.05:01
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thomax__yeah05:02
thomax__thanx for the help :)05:02
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dr_willissince i imagine no one in here knows what you mean by 'headers'05:02
dr_willisMy  Word Processing Docs have a header and Footer. :)05:02
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thomax__dr_willis: very funny05:03
hakaisoupardon the interruption, but is there linux software that can record video off my desktop?05:04
dr_willishakaisou,  you mean make a video of your desktop - like ot make a tutoruial video?05:05
hakaisoumore like to make a video file out of a flash loop so i can youtube it05:05
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thomax__hakaisou: recordmydesktop05:05
thomax__!find recordmydesktop05:06
ubotuFound: gtk-recordmydesktop, recordmydesktop05:06
thomax__!info recordmydesktop05:06
uboturecordmydesktop: Captures audio-video data of a linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-1 (feisty), package size 40 kB, installed size 128 kB05:06
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thomax__!info recordmydesktop | hakaisou05:06
ubotuhakaisou: please see above05:06
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thomax__hakaisou: you can specify an area you want to record on you desktop with x,y cordinats05:07
_4strOhakaisou: if you're using beryl you can also see seom05:07
dr_willisi thought Youtube used flash videos?05:08
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z3xcan anyone help me? I just upgraded my laptop from edgy to feisty and now my graphics are utterly screwed.  lspci shows the adapter as [SiS} 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIEE VGA Display Adapter, and won't go out of a resolution larger than 640x480, and glxinfo fails because of "BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation).  my laptop is an Averatec 3500c tabletpc05:10
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z3xoh and in reality my integrated card is a SiS m74105:12
spawn57z3x in console do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, tehre' will be an option there for choosing resolutions05:12
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JucatoJuJuBee: reinstalling kde-guidance didn't work?05:14
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JuJuBeeno.05:14
Jucatoum.. not sure what do to next...05:14
paolohi. how can i redirect to a BINARY file stdout of a shell? thnks05:15
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AFaithhello people!05:15
AFaithhello my friends from #kubuntu05:15
AFaithhello Admiral_Chicago!05:16
spawn57hey hey05:16
AFaithi'm having a little trouble with swat :)05:16
spawn57paolo: ...using > ?05:16
spawn57ohh samba stuff05:16
AFaithyep :P05:16
JucatoJuJuBee: how about the other kde-guidance stuff? arfe they working? displayconfig, mountconfig, serviceconfig ?05:16
paolospawn57: i want a binary file05:16
paolonot a text file05:16
JucatoJuJuBee: how about running userconfig w/o kdesu?05:16
AFaithi'm following this tutorial to enable samba http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/SWAT.html05:16
AFaithoh ... hello Jucato! i've almost forgot you :P05:17
paoloi see05:17
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AFaithand if i want to acces : localhost:901 it simply shows me that firefox isn't able to establish a connection05:18
AFaithcan you tell me what should i do ?05:18
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JuJuBeeI tried a few other of kde-guidance apps and they seem to work fine.  I will try w/o kdesu...05:18
Jucatoso it's only userconfig that doesn't work...hm... :(05:18
JuJuBeeNo go...05:18
JuJuBeeBunch of errors involving kde-guidance...05:18
spawn57AFaith: what's the trouble?05:18
JucatoJuJuBee: displayconfig works though?05:18
Jucatohm...05:18
_4strOJuJuBee: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade offer you to update something ?05:18
Jucatoheh hi AFaith!05:18
spawn57lemme try it out05:19
spawn57how did you install it?05:19
JuJuBeejucato_ yep05:19
JuJuBee_4str0 : nope05:19
AFaithspawn57: i've already said .. i can't make swat working05:19
AFaithi'm following this tutorial : http://us3.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/SWAT.html05:19
spawn57AFaith: I hope you used apt-get ?05:19
JucatoJuJuBee: ok, try putting the errors (don't include the X Errors: BadDevice) in a pastebin, and dare to ask in #kubuntu-devel :(05:20
z3xspawn57:: thx that worked05:20
AFaithof course05:20
AFaithi have swat installed :)05:20
JuJuBeeJucato_ : OK, I will, thanks...05:20
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spawn57z3x: np05:22
spawn57AFaith: got inetd/xinetd configured?05:22
AFaithyep!05:23
AFaithspawn57: root@pc1:/home/udrescu# cat /etc/inetd.conf05:23
AFaithftp     stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/proftpd05:23
AFaithswat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat05:23
AFaithroot@pc1:/home/udrescu#05:23
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spawn57why do people always paste things in hwere whent I talk to them...you're the first one that didn't paste 200 lines05:23
AFaith:)) lol05:24
AFaithi usually use pastebin05:24
AFaithbut now ... i'm a bit in a hurry05:24
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spawn57haha thank god for that05:25
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spawn57you restarted inetd after setting the configs right?05:25
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AFaithspawn57: i didn't have to do that, because the settings were already there :)05:26
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spawn57hmm yeah..05:27
spawn57try restarting it, invoke-rc.d openbsd-inetd restart05:27
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spawn57i just did and it works for me ..using firefox05:28
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d0uglaswhat's the procedure to convert an xvid into a conventional dvd image to burn?05:28
_6StringKng_uh, I use convertxtodvd, works great05:29
_6StringKng_http://www.vso-software.fr/products/convert_x_to_dvd/05:29
d0uglasthanks man05:29
AFaithspawn57: i've tryed invoke-rc.d openbsd-inetd restart but it keeps telling me that he can't find openbsd-inetd ... i'm wondering if you've got it right :-?05:29
_6StringKng_it converts about any format too05:30
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spawn57oh05:30
spawn57lemme check hehe05:30
_6StringKng_and they look great on a tv, I downloaded all the episdoes of smallville I missed, hehe05:30
AFaith:P05:30
spawn57you could do /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart        ..use tab to autocomplete the file name..05:30
spawn57 invoke-rc.d openbsd-inetd start is what I typed05:31
d0uglas_6StringKng_: ummm anything on linux for this?05:31
d0uglaslike some k3b plugin?05:31
AFaithif you don't belive me, here is the paste of the problem : sudo: /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd: command not found05:31
d0uglasor ffmpeg maybe?05:31
spawn57d0uglas: transcould?05:31
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spawn57transcode even05:31
spawn57AFaith: do you have it installed ?????05:31
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spawn57do dpkg -l | grep openbsd ..05:31
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spawn57otherwise install it05:31
AFaithbig ooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuppppppppsssss!!!! :">05:32
spawn57hahahaha05:32
AFaithapt-get install openbsd or apt-get install inetd ?05:33
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_6StringKng_douglas, no clue about that05:33
spawn57openbsd-inetd05:33
AFaiththanks05:33
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AFaithspawn57: big thanks! now, it works :P05:35
spawn57AFaith: np05:36
_6StringKng_douglas, you still in here?05:36
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d0uglasspawn57: yikes big man page... can i get transcode to crank out a bin/cue?05:39
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spawn57haha use konqueror to skim through it, or google for mor help on it.  I dunno much about transcode myself05:40
spawn57man:/transcode should bring it up in konquorer05:41
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d0uglas_6StringKng_: yeah man right here05:42
_6StringKng_k, you get what I sent you in pm?05:43
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_6StringKng_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32382505:44
d0uglasgot it05:44
d0uglasthanks05:44
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_6StringKng_you have aim or anything?05:46
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_6StringKng_brb05:47
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nagyvhello! is here any lm_sensors expert? I just ran sensors-detect, and than added the 3 modules it recommended to add, but sensors is still complaining about not having any sensor module05:57
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yuriymy lock screen seems to be broken05:59
phpcodewhat program is easy to burn ios as a boot cd?06:00
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yuriynagyv: did you add the modules to be added at start up or did you load them with modprobe or both?06:00
angasuleanyone else having trouble with gmail and konqueror?06:00
phpcode..easy to use*06:00
Jucatophpcode: K3b06:00
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yuriyi can log into the computer, but when i lock the screen from either kde or gnome, it says incorrect password when i try to unlock06:01
Pollywogis  it safe to remove the dhcp3-client from Feisty?  I think it had its own ideas about what my IP address should be and it ignored the interfaces file and hosts file06:01
Jucatoyuriy: how is it broken?06:01
yuriyangasule: it's broken when you identify as mozilla. there's a patch floating around. for now you can change it to identify as konqueror or safari06:01
phpcodeJucato: k, thx :-)06:01
yuriyJucato: see last msg^06:02
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PollywogI don't want to go back to Debian but kubuntu is making some tasks harder for long-time Linux users06:02
dwidmann!lm-sensors | nagyv06:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lm-sensors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:02
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angasuleyuriy: ah, thanks, I wouldn't have thought the default install would have changed the id06:02
Pollywoguobtu is a bot06:02
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nagyvI have already read after it, but there is still a problem06:02
yuriyangasule: well normally it works better as mozilla so it was changed by default06:02
dwidmann!sensors06:02
Jucatoangasule: I think they included the patch in the KDE 3.5.7 packages06:03
dwidmannThere we go. I do believe the key is that you have to runs some sort of script before you run sensors-detect06:03
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Jucatoyuriy: hm... sounds familiar but I can't seem to recall the solution to that... something with kcheckpass I think06:03
angasulefunny, I don't see the option of identifying as 'konqueror' :(06:03
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yuriyJucato: you think that would affect gnome too?06:04
nagyvI will set the powermanager CPU for powerwave, hope this way I will be able to avoid shutdowns :(06:04
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angasuleworking \o/ thanks a bunch06:04
Jucatoangasule: where?06:04
yuriyJucato: there isn't a package called kcheckpass06:04
roman_hi06:04
angasuleJucato: nevermind, it worked :)06:05
Jucatoyuriy: oh GNOME, right... sorry then :(06:05
yuriyJucato: well it's both06:05
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Jucatoheh ok06:05
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cythi all, does anyone know how to let vim show an ident line, like this http://notepad-plus.sourceforge.net/commun/screenshots/scrsh_bookmark.gif (The lines under for and if)06:07
n8k99Jucato: do you use konversation?06:07
Jucaton8k99: yep06:08
n8k99do you get it to automatically sign into the NickServ?06:08
Jucatoyep06:08
n8k99hmm... what am i messing up?06:09
JucatoF8 -> Auto Identify fields?06:09
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n8k99service is irc.freenode.net? or freenode.net06:09
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Jucatoservice is NickServ06:10
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n8k99oh duh!06:10
_6StringKng_what was that mp3 plugin called for K3b?06:10
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Jucaton8k99: this is in the Identities dialog box (F8)06:11
n8k99lawl- thanx Jucato06:11
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n8k99ja, dat is where i goofed!06:11
Jucato_6StringKng_: libk3b2-mp3 I think06:11
llutz_6StringKng_: this tells you: apt-cache search k3b mp306:12
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_6StringKng_k, thanks06:13
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morobodoes anybody have an idea why my JACK server doesn't start, saying: jackd: symbol lookup error: jackd: undefined symbol: _jack_get_microseconds ?  I can't find anything like that on the web.06:14
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_6StringKng_man, I don't knwo what I would do without this place, lol06:17
_6StringKng_know*06:17
_6StringKng_so many helpful people06:17
yuriyJucato: i found 2 threads about the problem and the solution so far seems to be to set the password using kuser..06:19
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K1765How do I run Restricted Devices Manager06:21
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K1765How do I run Restricted Devices Manager? anyone know.. ?? it says System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager but.. there isnt a system -> admin06:23
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morobowhat do you mean by restricted devices?06:23
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K1765For installing drivers.. thats where it says to go06:24
K1765https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-7f830fe17ae6da7c546decbb10c32ff61471258e06:24
LjLyes, drivers, not devices06:24
LjLhowever, i don't think that's available in Kubuntu but only in Ubuntu06:24
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LjLafraid you'll have to install it manually by following the other instructions06:25
LjLi.e. "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" and then "sudo nvidia-xconfig" or whatever06:25
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moroboK1765: use synaptic or adept package manager and go to the repository settings. there you can activate the restricted repositories06:26
K1765I've done that.. but is there anything else?? Because the game is still choppy..06:26
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decapitatedHi, all06:36
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K1765If anyone is an expert on how to install nvidia drivers on kubuntu plz private message me..06:37
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easytiger!envy06:38
ubotuenvy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!06:38
decapitatedAnybody here?06:38
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DJServersyo yo yo06:38
DJServersehm...06:38
DJServerswere is the file /.wine/drive_c/         ? someone nows?06:39
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llutzDJServers: it's a directory and should be in your home-dir06:39
LjLDJServers: that looks like a directory, not a file, and with the syntax you used, it is just in /.wine/drive_c/, as that's an absolute pathname.06:39
LjLyou probably mean ~/.wine/drive_c/ however06:39
decapitatedI think it is in the etc folder06:40
LjLwhich is in your home directory06:40
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LjLdecapitated: hardly06:40
DJServersno i mean where is that dictonery?06:40
LjL /home/yourusername/.wine/drive_c/06:40
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llutz.wine is a hidden folder06:40
K1765how do you view all hidden folders?06:40
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LjLls -a06:40
DJServersi i've got it06:40
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decapitatedDoes anybody here kno how to upgrade from Dapper (6.06) to Feisty (7.04)??06:41
LjL!upgrade06:41
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)06:41
decapitatedok06:41
decapitatedthanks06:41
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Jucatodecapitated: you will have to upgrade to Edgy first06:43
decapitatedI just found out :(06:43
mharrisoncan anyone help me with a wireless issue please?06:43
decapitatedDamn06:43
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mharrisoncan anyone help with a wireless issue please?06:44
LjL!ask06:44
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:44
mharrisonok06:44
mharrisonI'm funning a wireless network with WPA-PSK(TKIP) and Kubuntu with Gnome06:45
mharrisonI can't connect using WPA06:45
mharrisonI tried in KDE, but I got stuck at 28%06:45
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K1765mharrison: sometimes no1 answers.. lol06:50
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mharrisonit's ok, I'm able to run with wires for now, just I'm moving house and there are no inbuilt wires there06:50
_4strOlol06:50
_4strOit's because i have no response to give :p06:51
K1765me either.. lol06:51
mharrisonwireless has always seemed to be a headache for me, especially using linux06:51
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mharrisonsuse was the worst06:51
webitowhat is better kubuntu or ubuntu?06:51
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K1765kubuntu.. most likely?06:52
mharrisonboth the same really, kubuntu has kde though06:52
webitoand ubuntu has the gnome?06:52
jacqueskubuntu seems better06:52
mharrisonyeah06:52
epimethhehe.... "the gnome"06:52
mharrisonkubuntu is my preference06:52
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mharrisonthe gnome...06:53
mharrisonthat's a floyd song haha06:53
jacques4str0!06:53
webitomost of the gui programs are programmed for gnome or for kde?06:53
epimethjacques: you forgot the underscore....06:53
jacquescan you tell me about firewire06:53
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jacquesok sorry06:53
epimethwebito: really, its QT vs GTK06:53
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K1765Anyone here know something about installing nvidia drivers.. message me plz..06:53
mharrisonyou can use  KDE and GNOME apps in either06:53
mharrisonI do06:53
epimethK1765: I do.... whats the problem?06:54
decapitatedDoes any of you have Debian?06:54
MrDigimonhow do i get the TSL pack to work? aMSN doesnt find it...06:54
epimethdecapitated: guilty06:54
decapitatedWhat?06:54
epimethI have debian...06:54
K1765well.. epimeth06:54
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decapitatedIs debian good?06:54
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epimethdecapitated: that depends on your definition of "good"06:55
decapitatedBetter than Kubuntu maybe06:55
LjL!better06:55
ubotuUsually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.06:55
MrDigimonhow do i install the TSL pack or at least get it to work?06:55
decapitatedI'm thinking about buying it06:55
mharrisonthing with the ubuntus is they are best if you like comunity support06:55
K1765I did, sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run, and.. it comes up saying, Your running an X server, please exit X before installing06:55
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mharrisonK176506:56
mharrisonyou need to swith to run level 306:56
epimethdecapitated: buying?06:56
miraxHey, I'm trying to help a friend with setting up kubuntu and I was wondering if I could get some help on two little issues.  The first she uses msn messanger, and wants something similiar to it.  The closer to it it is, the better.  I've tried aMSN and she seems okay with it, but I know she'd be happier with something even closer to MSN Messanger.  The other question I have is there anyway to get the thumbnail preview of pictures in folders like there is in06:56
miraxWindows XP?06:56
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mharrisonmirax06:56
mharrisonyou can use kopete06:56
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K1765What do you mean mharrison06:56
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miraxok, what about the thumbnails for folders?06:57
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mharrisonk1765, you need to go to the nvidia site, all is explained in 100% detail06:57
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mharrisonor you could just install it from the add/remove prompt06:58
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mharrison*not prompt, dialogue06:58
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K1765What would I be looking for in the add/remove dialogue06:58
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epimethK1765: you have to shutdown X and install it from the command line07:00
K1765lol how do I shutdown X =)07:00
epimethare you currently using the same computer that you want to install the drivers on?07:01
K1765yeah >.>07:01
_RusLAN_<mharrison> you can use kopete :)))07:01
epimethdecapitated: you still here?07:01
decapitatedYes07:01
_RusLAN_<mharrison> good )))07:01
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epimethdecapitated: so first of all, "better" is a very relative term... what do you mean by that.  second, what the hell do you mean "buying"????07:02
epimethK1765: so listen very carefully... in fact, you should probably write this down07:02
epimethK1765: the first step is to log out of X by clicking K-> Log out07:02
epimethK1765: then you hit alt+ctrl+f107:03
Rictoo|SLPHow do I see my mount points?07:03
Rictoo|SLPWhat's the file?07:03
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epimethRictoo: /etc/fstab07:03
Rictoothanks07:03
K1765ok epimeth07:03
RictooActually, I'm confused07:03
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epimethK1765: you can do that now... hitting lt+ctrl_f7 will get you back into the x terminal07:03
RictooI'm looking at this guide-type thing, and it says:07:03
Rictoo#!Change /dev/sda to Your harddisk07:04
epimethK1765: don't log out!07:04
Rictoowell,/dev/sda is NOT my main HDD07:04
RictooSo how do I find out where it is?07:04
epimethK1765: just hit alt+ctrl+f1, then alt+ctrl+f707:04
sivajihow to mount a partition at boot time07:04
K1765ok07:04
K1765got it epimeth, anything else07:04
epimethRictoo: you should know where you installed to :-)07:04
Rictoo...07:05
epimethK1765: yes, a bit more :-)07:05
K1765install it there?07:05
sergheihi07:05
RictooI forgot O.O07:05
K1765okk=p07:05
epimethK1765: you saw the login prompt?07:05
Rictooepimeth: Anyway to find out now though?07:05
rafalhi ;] 07:05
K1765yes07:05
epimethRictoo: then hold on a sec... I'll be with you07:05
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sergheii am new in Linux world, want to install firefox :)07:05
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creadorcreativoserghei: sudo apt-get install firefox07:06
epimethK1765: after you log out of x, you can still get to that terminal.  you log into there07:06
Quinn_Stormhey guys, quick question (finally back to kde!), I'm wondering, is there any way to make kde-guidance-powermanager do something other than "Ask" on the powerbutton event?  I know I could hack it in /etc/acpi.d but I am hoping there is a nice solution like gnome-power-manager has07:06
Quinn_Storm(I want the power button to be a sleep button, if it matters)07:06
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epimethK1765: then you type in the following (no '$') $sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop07:06
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ahmedguys how to remove kde without removing its applications ??07:06
K1765epimeth: ok07:07
epimethK1765: this will shut down x and kdm completely07:07
aseigoahmed: "remove kde".. you mean kdesktop/kicker/kwin?07:07
epimethK1765: then you can run the script...07:07
K1765ok.. thanks.. im going to try it lol07:08
epimethK1765: bit wait07:08
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K1765ok07:08
epimethK1765: first:07:08
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ahmed_uys how to remove kde without removing its applications ??07:08
epimethK1765: backup your xorg.conf07:08
epimethif the nvidia script doesn't work you replace xorg.conf with your backed up file so you can get back into X07:08
K1765wheres that at to backup.. I cant remember haha07:08
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epimeth /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:09
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ahmed_guys how to remove kde without removing its applications ??07:09
rafalsomeone speak in polish here ?:>07:09
epimethahmed_:  aseigo asked you a question.....07:09
ahmed_didnt see it07:10
ahmed_was dc07:10
K1765ok epimeth, here i go07:10
ahmed_aseigo , sry wat were u sayin ?07:10
epimethgood luck!07:10
aseigoahmed: "remove kde".. you mean kdesktop/kicker/kwin?07:10
epimethRictoo: oooookay07:10
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epimethRictoo: where were we?07:10
Rictoolool07:10
Rictoowell07:10
epimethRictoo: and what, exactly, are you trying to do?07:10
RictooI need to know where my main hdd is (/)07:10
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Rictooit's not /dev/sda07:11
epimethRictoo: $mount07:11
epimetherm07:11
ahmed_aseigo,, remove everything related to kde except its applications07:11
Rictoorictoo@rictoo-desktop:~/TEMP/53736-BuildAMon1.1.2/BuildAMon$ echo $mount07:11
ahmed_including kdesktop, the kde session from login07:11
ahmed_and so on07:11
Rictoonothing :|07:11
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epimethRictoo: $mount | grep 'on / type'07:11
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RictooI get nothing07:12
Rictoo..07:12
epimethhrm... pastebin $mount for me?07:12
lupulhy there. does anyone know a program to record and take pictures from a webcam?07:12
aseigoahmed_: so you want to remove some of the kdebase- packages probably. you're going to save probably all of a dozen MB =)07:12
Rictoonothing from that either07:12
epimeth???07:12
epimethwhat is it you are typing, man???07:12
aseigoahmed_: and they don't have any overhead when not being run.. so i'm not sure if you're time invested will be worth the return07:12
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yknottlupul: webcam07:13
Rictoorictoo@rictoo-desktop:~/TEMP/53736-BuildAMon1.1.2/BuildAMon$ $mount07:13
Rictoorictoo@rictoo-desktop:~/TEMP/53736-BuildAMon1.1.2/BuildAMon$07:13
Rictoo:D07:13
epimethRictoo: please note what you pasted.... do you see the double $?07:13
RictooAhh.07:13
epimethRictoo: the $ just means "do it in a terminal"07:13
epimethRictoo: :-)07:13
lupulyhanks yknott07:14
ahmed_aseigo am a linux noob,, wat exactly should i do07:14
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aseigoahmed_: i'd suggest "nothing"07:14
Rictoorictoo@rictoo-desktop:~/TEMP/53736-BuildAMon1.1.2/BuildAMon$ mount | grep 'on / type'07:14
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RictooIT WORKS07:14
RictooOMGOMGOGM <307:14
aseigoahmed_: you'll run the risk of breaking things you don't mean to for very little in return.07:14
Rictoohaha07:14
epimethahmed_: why do you want to remove kde?07:14
epimethRictoo: lol07:14
epimethRictoo: so where does it say root is mounted to?07:14
aseigoahmed_: and by "very little" i mean "pretty much nothing"07:14
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ahmed_why do i want to remove kde.. kinda cleaning undeeded stuff07:15
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coreymon77ahmed_: removing kde entirely is a bit more than just cleaning uneeded stuff07:15
K1765epimeth: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run is in /home/michael .. so i did sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9755-pkg1.run , but it doesnt work.. says like cannot find.. what would i do when im in the command line to make that run?07:16
yknottK1765: you may try sh ./NVIDIA...07:16
epimethahmed_: there's no point... you will "clean" a very little bit and run the risk of breaking a *lot* of stuff. we strongly suggest you not do that if you want to keep the programs07:16
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K1765ok will do, thanks07:16
coreymon77ahmed_: most programs will not work without a desktop enviroonment07:17
yknottahmed_: what about kde do you wish to remove?07:17
epimethK1765: not sudo sh NV....   just sudo NV.....07:17
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nagyv!laptops07:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about laptops - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:17
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epimethyknott: he needs root privs to run it...07:18
yknottcoreymon77: perhaps he wishes to use xfce or so but still use amarok and the like07:18
epimethyknott: oh well :-)07:18
epimethyknott: he'll be back....07:18
nagyvis there a good resource to decide which laptops are kubuntu-compatible?07:18
yknottepimeth: yes understood, but the message he mentioned was that it could not be found07:18
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coreymon77nagyv: what do you mean by kubuntu-compatible, most will be07:18
Quinn_Stormbtb07:18
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epimethnagyv: yes... lemme check07:18
Quinn_Stormerr07:18
Quinn_Stormbrb07:18
yknottepimeth: besides, he typed that he did "sudo sh NVIDIA..."07:19
coreymon77cant you install kubuntu on pretty much all laptops?07:19
yknottcoreymon77: i thought so07:19
epimethnagyv: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam07:19
nagyvcoreymon77: I would like a "database" that I can search, etc. now I have an asus, the two main problems are ATi and sensors07:19
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nagyvI would like to avoid similar (small) problems in the future07:20
alusiqshit07:20
epimethRictoo: so?  everything okay?07:20
coreymon77nagyv: oh, so you mean which ones have hardware that will work easily07:20
nagyvcoreymon77: yes07:20
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coreymon77nagyv: when it comes to laptops, i believe you will always have a problem or two07:20
coreymon77nagyv: mostly because of the fact that you cant change your hardware07:21
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K1765epimeth: it says no libc header files installed07:21
nagyvcoreymon77: given that I am travelling a lot I need a laptop, and I need my Linux too :)07:21
epimethnagyv: yea... I've got a laptop which is *similar*, but not identical to, one of the tested ones... my sound didn't work and my "increase brightness" hotkey didn't work :-(07:21
arunanyone here use picasa for linux?07:21
coreymon77nagyv: i have switched out alot of my hardware on my desktop to make it compatible07:22
yknottarun: i have ,yeah07:22
epimethK1765: brb07:22
nagyvepimeth: sounds great!07:22
coreymon77nagyv: and also, dont expect all of the special keys on t\a laptop to necessarily work in linux07:22
arunyknott: it seems to work fine for me, but when i try to run a slideshow, it doesn't show the images full screen, even though i have that option enabled07:22
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sivajihow to mount a ntfs or fat partition at boot time07:23
yknottnagyv: i would not expect all of them to work out of the box, though there may be no reason why you could not bind them as you saw fit07:23
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coreymon77nagyv: such as the special volume/brightness slider buttons and the like07:23
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coreymon77nagyv: although for laptops, do not expect everything to work out of the box07:23
lupulis there any software for taking pictures and recording with a webcam? and it should have GUI07:23
yknottarun: it does the same for me07:24
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nagyvcoreymon77: it does not have to work out of the box, but for example ATi is clearly out of question07:24
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yknottlupul: something like vlc could do that xawtv07:24
arunyknott: know any solution for it?07:24
coreymon77nagyv: true, so for example, you would want a laptop with a Nvidia card07:25
coreymon77anyways07:25
coreymon77i gtg07:25
lupulok thanks07:25
yknottarun: thus far i do not07:25
niclasanyone know how to get gmail-notify to autostart?07:25
arunalso, i've been thinking about buying a new laptop.. been wondering if i should get a macbook, or get a laptop pc and run windows/kubuntu dual boot (like i am now)07:25
nagyvcoreymon77: I have heard that Nvidia is better, but is it good (or just better than ATi)?07:25
niclaskinda loses it's meaning if I have to start it everytime I turn on my computer07:25
yknottnagyv: nvidia better supports linux drivers, it seems07:26
nagyvniclas: probably you should put a small script under ~/.kde/Autostart07:26
yknottnagyv: though amd/ati has recently commited to improving the fglrx driver07:26
niclashow do I do that, I'm really new at this07:26
nagyvyknott: I know this, but are there differences between nvidia cards support on linux?07:26
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yknottnagyv: well i suppose you could view what is covered/supported by the nvidia-glx driver07:27
K1765arun: never used a mac, got i'd duel boot vista/kubuntu if I were you..07:27
nagyvniclas: 1. make a new file, 2. copy the first line of whatever script that ends on .sh into this file, 3. write the path to the gmail-notifier into the file, 4. Change it to become executable. The 1-3 can be done in Kate, 4 in Konqueror after Right click and Properties.07:27
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Rictooguys07:28
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RictooI want to be able to run a program without being sudo:07:28
arunK1765: i really don't like vista07:28
RictooSmartctl open device: /dev/hda2 failed: Permission denied07:28
Rictooso I edited /etc/sudoers to let me07:28
Rictoobut I still can't07:28
yknottarun: so request windowsxp; you have through the end of the calendar year07:28
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LjLRictoo, eh? /etc/sudoers controls what you can do when you *are* using sudo07:28
flakeRictoo - you mean from the gui ?07:28
Rictoothis is what I put in /etc/sudoers: rictoo ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/smartctl07:28
nagyvyknott: not a bad idea, but there are also some other things to look at, this is why I was asking if anyone knows about a good and well done database07:28
LjLit cannot control what you do when you *aren't* using it07:28
Rictooflake: what?07:29
arunso you dont recommend a mac?07:29
RictooLjL: Then how can I make it let me?07:29
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aruni can run kubuntu on it as well07:29
LjLRictoo: you can't.07:29
Rictoobecause the guise I'm using says this:07:29
Rictooguide*07:29
Rictoo########To run as user, smartctl requires the following inserted into /etc/sudoers file07:29
flakewhat do you want to run07:29
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yknottnagyv: i think someone pasted one in the channel - [12:19]  <epimeth> nagyv: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam07:29
Rictoo########your_user_name ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/smartctl07:29
RictooI did that, but I still need to run it as sudo07:29
LjLRictoo: yes, you do, but no password will be asked. that's what the guide meant.07:29
Rictooohhhhhhhh07:30
RictooOk, thanks <307:30
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niclas is it ok if you give me some more detailed descriptions?07:30
K1765Anyone know where I can get Libc header files?07:30
niclasI've just opened kate and don't know what to do07:30
LjLRictoo: it's not necessarily a good idea, either. with smartctl you can do some potentially nasty things, like making the drive execute long, invasive self-tests07:30
LjLyou don't normally want "any" user to be able to do that.07:30
Rictoobut my system monitor requires it :\07:30
nagyvyknott: thx, but I don't call this a database, they are just tables. (I could also use linux-laptop.net )07:31
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flakesince the kernel upgrade, my drives went from sda1...sdb5 etc to hda1..hdb5...    eg.. from being recognized as SCSI (and they aren't scsi)07:31
yknottnagyv: i see, well i know of none better, yet07:31
K1765Anyone know where I can get Libc header files?07:31
flakenow I got DRV2_VOL1_ and a DRV2_VOL1, the latter being empty07:32
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epimethK1765: back07:32
epimethK1765: what did you need again?07:33
niclaswhat script should end on .sh?07:33
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sivajikopete has crashed i cant run it is there any way to run07:34
adiniclas none its just a convention07:35
epimethK1765: $sudo apt-get install libc6-dev07:35
LjLor just sudo apt-get install build-essential07:35
epimethsivaji: ctrl+esc, kill kopete.  then apt+f2 "kopete"07:35
niclasI don't get it...07:35
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LjLwhich will give other 99% likely useful things07:35
epimethK1765: what LjL said... sudo apt-get install build-essential07:36
epimethK1765: this will give you many things you don't need... but you might also need some of them for the installation07:36
epimethK1765: better safe than sorry....07:36
flakeif one of my wine programs hangs and i can't alt-tab back, instead of the ctrl-alt-backspace, is there a way to force quit the winey program without logging out?07:36
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niclasis there anyone who can give me a more detailed description on how to get gmail-notify to autostart?07:36
niclasor explain the previous one...07:36
niclas:) I'm really new at this07:37
epimethflake: click on the "x" until you get a popup asking you if you want to kill it... or ctrl+esc and select the process you want to kill07:37
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flakesometimes i test out a full-screen dx app07:38
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epimethdon't you guys just hate it when you're helping someone and they just dissapear?07:38
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epimeth:-)07:38
flakelol07:38
flakei clicked on konvo07:38
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flakethanks, faster to c-a-b07:39
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niclasyknott: apparently I haven't registered07:39
niclascan't talk to you in there...07:39
yknottniclas: no worries07:40
niclasby the way, how do I register?07:40
flakethat's how i earned the username I gave myself07:40
epimethflake: whups... thought you were the guy with the kopete problem07:40
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flakeaww07:40
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epimethoh... if you still want it you can have it07:40
yknott/msg nickserv register help07:40
nagyvniclas: sorry, I get lost in a website. But if I see, then yknott will help you now.07:41
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niclaswhere should I write that07:42
niclasright here?07:42
epimethniclas: yes07:42
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niclasall of it07:42
epimethyes07:43
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philipponok, had to change my name07:43
philipponthink Im registered now07:43
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K1765thanks epimeth07:44
Marukohi07:44
Marukocan I ask u a question?07:44
Subsonic_hey guys07:44
epimethK1765: everything work out?07:45
hendaus /join #gnokii07:45
Subsonic_can I get some assistance with setting screen resolution07:45
epimeth!ask | Maruko07:45
ubotuMaruko: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:45
Marukoif I want xfce and gnome along with my kde I must give : sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop && gnome-desktop07:45
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Subsonic_I have just installed the nvidia driver, the quality is good however, the best res I can go to is 640x48007:45
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MarukoI just want the two DE not the programs07:45
K1765im about to go try again right now07:45
epimethmark_: no... sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop gnome-desktop07:46
Marukook07:46
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epimethMaruko: what?07:46
Marukobu IO just get the DE or all the packages, programs and so on?07:46
n8k99Maruko: the programs are also part of teh DE as well07:46
MarukoI once installed XFCE but I didn't have all the XFCE programs07:46
Marukojust thunar07:46
Subsonic_anyone fancy giving me some help with graphics drivers?07:46
epimethMaruko: ummm.... depends on what you mean by "programs"  you'll probably get nautilus and whatever the PIM for gnome is... same for xfce07:47
dwidmannsubsonic: tried running "sudo nvidia-settings"?07:47
n8k99then you don't want teh *-desktop packages Maru07:47
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epimethSubsonic_: maybe... whats the problem?07:47
Marukocannot find xfce-desktop07:48
Subsonic_i'll give it a go07:48
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n8k99Maruko: xubuntu-desktop07:48
n8k99ubuntu-desktop07:48
n8k99those are the metapackages to install those two environments07:49
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DinithionI installed fiesty just now, but when I try to start k3b nothing happens. When I try to start k3b from a terminal i doesn't say anything. It doesn't start and no debug information at all. Have someone expirienced that?07:54
epimethDinithion: does your mouse cursor change?07:54
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Subsonic_right, I tried sudo nvidia-settings07:55
Subsonic_still no joy07:55
RictooLjL: I setup the smartctl in /etc/sudoers, but I still have to enter a pass to use it07:55
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Subsonic_for some reason it seems to think that my lcd screen can only do 640x48007:56
Dinithionepimeth Yes it does, but nothing else. It doesn't read from the harddisk either07:56
epimethctrl+esc and kill the k3b process07:56
epimeththen try running it again07:56
MrC_hi there ,i would to add PcLinuxOS 2007 to my pc,does anyone knows if ubuntu/kubuntu works well with dual-boot,i have install full HD for ubuntu/kubuntu07:56
Thehound666I have an issue, I did sudo aptitude hold linux-image linux-image-generic linux-headers linux-headers-generic linux-generic in hopes to not have adept force the kernel upgrade on me07:56
Thehound666it didn't work07:56
easytiger!vmware07:57
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers07:57
Thehound666what did I do wrong or is it a very annoying bug?07:57
Subsonic_dwidmann: do you have any other ideas?07:57
sivajieasytiger: whether linux supports vmware07:57
RictooLjL: I setup the smartctl in /etc/sudoers, but I still have to enter a pass to use it07:57
easytigersivaji: sorry?07:57
sivajieasytiger: ok fine07:58
easytigerwhat are you on about07:58
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Subsonic_anyone fancy giving me some help with a graphics problem?07:58
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Thehound666I do have a good reason for refusing the kernel update07:58
Dinithionepimeth There were several k3bs "running", but one of them won't be killed07:59
RictooGuys, I setup to be able to use smartctl without root in /etc/sudoers, but I still have to enter a pass to use it07:59
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Thehound666I got fglrx working and don't want to break it07:59
sivaji!ask | Subsonic_07:59
ubotuSubsonic_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:59
epimethDinithion: then open a terminal window07:59
K1765epimeth: my kubuntu wont start back up. I restart the pc, now it goes to the loading screen, and loads, then goes to another loading screen and does nothing07:59
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Subsonic_I am having a problem with my nvidia card07:59
psykidellichi...i have a init  script which i copied to /etc/init.d folder .. now i want to configure it for varioys rc.d ... which tool should i use? my frnd said that i should not do it manually but rather use the tool but he couldnt tell me the tool :)07:59
psykidellic*various08:00
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epimethDinithion: $ps fuxa | grep k3b08:00
Dinithionepimeth still won't even with -908:00
Thehound666the proprietary driver do you use that?08:00
Thehound666installs very easy08:00
Subsonic_nvidia-settings seems to see it ok however, it doesn't let me move the resolution about 640x48008:00
Thehound666but you need to do a konsole login08:00
epimethDinithion: odd that... try a reboot?08:00
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epimethK1765: what happens when you alt+ctrl+f1?08:00
Subsonic_oops08:00
sivajii could see more than 100 process are but all most of them are doing nothing can i kill that08:00
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Subsonic_nvidia-settings seems to see it ok however, it doesn't let me move the resolution above 640x48008:00
K1765epimeth: it goes to the login prompt08:01
Subsonic_any ideas?08:01
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Thehound666proprietary driver?08:01
Thehound666or open source08:01
epimethDinithion: did you try killing it as sudo, btw?08:01
epimethK1765: okay, so your os is fine, its just a driver problem08:01
Dinithionepimeth I'll try08:01
epimethK1765: this is whty we backed up xorg.conf first08:01
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ahmedguys ,, when i try to access the login in the administration of gnome i get this message : GDM (The GNOME Display Manager) is not running.,,, its true because i installed kde but how to switch back to gnome login manager ??08:02
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K1765epimeth: yea.. so how do i get back on kubuntu lol08:02
epimethK1765: log in through term1 and copy back xorg.conf... remember to do it as sudo08:02
Subsonic_Anyone got anything I can try?08:02
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epimethSubsonic_: you tried adding the resolutions manually to xorg.conf?08:02
Thehound666try answering questions when they are asked and you might get better ideas from people =/08:03
K1765epimeth: did i tell you im a complete noob08:03
Subsonic_nope08:03
Subsonic_vi xorg.conf?08:03
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epimethK1765: lol... yup08:03
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epimethSubsonic_: I prefer emacs08:03
K1765epimeth: term1?08:03
epimethSubsonic_: :-)08:03
Subsonic_loation?08:03
Subsonic_oops08:03
hendaushelpers, i install from wine nokia suite program, can anyone tell me how to uninstall it? thanx08:03
epimethK1765: terminal one... its the terminal you get to when you alt+ctrl+f108:03
Subsonic_location?08:03
Thehound666/etc/X11/xorg.conf08:03
Subsonic_thanks08:03
yuriydoes (k)ubuntu use some particular uid to lock the screen?08:03
epimethSubsonic_: /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:03
epimethoh08:04
yuriy(Jucato, my problem from before has something to do with that ^)08:04
epimethdamn you Thehound666!08:04
epimeth:-)08:04
Thehound666I had to deal alot with that file08:04
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Thehound666I have a newer ati card08:04
K1765epimeth: I backed up xorg.conf in /home/ so how do i copy it to /etc/x11/xorg.conf08:04
Dinithionepimeth It seems to be a tough application :P I just rebooted so that seems unlikly aswell :/08:04
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Thehound666now you got room for me08:04
epimeth$sudo cp /home/<your user name>/xorg.conf.back /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:05
Thehound666I am trying to kill the kernel upgrade in adept08:05
Thehound666aptitude hold is doing nothing08:05
Thehound666it says held back08:05
Thehound666but adept still wants to upgrade08:05
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epimethif it says held back it should be held back....08:05
K1765kk ty epimeth08:05
Thehound666what I thought too08:05
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Thehound666not the case this time08:05
K1765epimeth: Did I install the wrong driver??08:05
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epimethoohhhh... aptitude wants to upgrade?  you sure it doesn't just tell you that it's upgradeable?08:06
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epimethK1765: aparently08:06
hendausany helper please!!! i install from wine nokia suite program, can anyone tell me how to uninstall it? thanx08:06
nagyvphilippon: I'm back08:06
epimethhendaus: you tried running the uninstaller using wine?08:06
K1765epimeth: I have a geforce fx 5500, i got it FX series driver..so what else could be wrong??08:06
K1765i got the*08:07
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AndehHello08:07
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AndehIs there a way to move inactive/unused processes to swap to save memory?08:07
highlandcairndoes anyone know how to access the "commercial" repo for feisty?08:07
AndehOr do i need to wait for it to get full?08:08
Quinn_Stormok, another question -.-, I'm looking to replace kde-guidance-powermanager with kpowermanager, but I can't even find the upstream source of kpowermanager let alone a package...anyone have any idea about this?08:08
hendausepimeth:  i install from a live cd a program for nokia phone call nokia suite from wine, and i want to uninstall it08:08
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epimethK1765: dunno.... try sudo apt-get install restricted-manager08:09
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epimethhendaus: I dunno... never installed it :-)08:10
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epimethhendaus: try a google search... "kubuntu nokia phone call suite uninstall"08:10
AndehCan I use MySQL to store an entire website? And if this is too irrelevant (probably is lol), is there an IRC channel for PHP, etc.?08:11
daaaman64Andeh08:11
daaaman64no08:11
epimethAndeh: ummmmm.... that is incredibly open ended08:12
AndehStore as in the html content. PHP would then get this and put it in the pages.08:12
daaaman64Andeh, yes there is a PHP channel on freenode08:12
hendausok thanx epimeth08:12
Andehopen-ended?08:12
AndehLOL i got kicked due to overflow08:12
epimethAndeh: content management systems technically "store" websites in a database (ie mysql)... but they have to be loaded using the php... therefore the php is the actual website, it just takes the content from the db08:13
Thehound666hey guys I found a pastebin that works08:13
Thehound666maybe you can see something wrong with the dialog I get back08:13
frojndcan someone take a look at this error, CINELERRA gives me this error when I start cinelerra. What does it mean??? I screened it since I wasn't able to copy the text.08:13
Thehound666http://paste.uni.cc/1588408:13
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epimethAndeh: so what exactly is it you are asking?08:14
Andehepimeth: Yay, good to see you're learning. I just wanted to know if it is suitable to store a large website's content in mysql databases with IDs for every page. I know it's definately better than having loads of flat files, or one huge one  (php would have to load all the content and find the page then filter it and echo it) so i thought i could use MySQL.08:15
Andehyay08:15
epimethThehound666: I don't see anything wrong with it... except for maybe you don't specify the version?08:15
Thehound666hmmm08:15
epimethAndeh: learning?08:16
Thehound666give it a shot though linux-generic is still in adept's list08:16
Thehound666with no version after it08:16
Andehepimeth: lol?08:16
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epimethAndeh: ;-)08:16
Andeh:-)08:16
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epimethAndeh: as I told someone earlier, 'better' is a relative term.  flat files will load fastest, followed by pure php, and lastly a mysql solution08:17
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epimethAndeh: but flat files lead to much confusion and are almost impossible to rewrite when the site is redesigned08:18
frojndIf I do like this: sudo echo "0x7fffffff" > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax    what will do this?? It was in error note when I started the cinelerra: http://shrani.si/?cinelerra11fvi.png08:18
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AndehI want a CMS but most are crappy and bloated, mostly i was going for a forum system with a VERY light home page/etc that has loads of stuff and can load content from the forum.08:18
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Andehi gtg08:18
epimethAndeh: the ideal solution is the have a mix of php pages which load content from the database.. ie a CMS08:18
Andehbi08:18
Andehyes08:18
Andehbye08:18
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yuriyQuinn_Storm: i think you're thinking of kpowersave08:19
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firecrotchAnyone know how I can get custom smileys to work in Gaim?08:20
Quinn_Stormyuriy: you are correct08:20
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apokryphosubotu: info kpowersave08:21
sivajiis any developer here please tell me08:21
ubotukpowersave: HAL based power management applet for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3271 kB, installed size 5080 kB08:21
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apokryphos!helpme08:21
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:21
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epimethsivaji: kubuntu developer or just any developer?08:21
epimethsivaji: cuz I'm a developer....08:22
sivajikubuntu08:22
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epimethsivaji: what is it you need from them?08:22
apokryphos!anyone08:22
sivajican u tell me what disk scheduling algo u r using08:22
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:22
K1765epimeth: sudo cp /home/michael/xorg.conf.back /etc/X11/xorg.conf didnt work08:22
K1765epimeth: said they dont exist.. >.>08:22
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epimethK1765: lol08:23
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sivajiepimeth can  u tell me what disk scheduling algo u r using08:23
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epimethK1765: sudo cp /home/michael/WHATEVER_YOU_CALLED_THE_BACKUP /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:23
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K1765epimeth, what is the name of the backup in /etc/x11/08:24
sivajiepimeth :08:24
epimethsivaji: right... you're looking for a kernel developer08:24
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epimethK1765: I told you to back up the file... you said you put it in your home08:24
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epimethsivaji: I'm sure that info is publicly available... do a google search08:25
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K1765epimeth: I did, what would it copy has, i copied /etc/x11/xorg.conf to /home/./ would it just be /etc/x11/xorg.conf?08:25
K1765epimeth: i mean xorg.conf08:25
K1765hha08:25
epimethK1765: so yes... you just copy it back08:26
epimethK1765: sudo cp /home/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:26
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K1765kk08:26
epimethor even just sudo cp /home/xorg.conf /etc/X11/08:26
K1765k lol08:26
epimetherm /home/michael08:26
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highlandcairnhas anyone successfully installed vmware server using feisty?08:27
K1765if this doesnt work im screwed.. ey?08:27
Thehound666put the version08:27
Thehound666no love08:27
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epimethK1765: it will work... the only thing the Nvidia install did that could break your system was replace xorg.conf08:27
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K1765im about to love windows again.. seeing how i cant even get the drivers to work08:27
Thehound666or is the version I supposed to put is my current kernel08:27
Thehound666I said hold version of the upgrade08:27
K1765brb08:28
epimethK1765: bite your tongue!08:28
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Thehound666I really don't want to be the guinea pig of seeing if the ati driver works on the new kernel08:28
MaTiAzK1765: That was the same feeling I had when I didn't get stuff working :)08:28
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epimethThehound666: just run the upgrade... if it doesn't work you can always boot into an older kernel!08:29
epimethof course, back up anything important first....08:29
K1765lmao epimeth08:30
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K1765epimeth: it says /etc/x11/ doesn't exist08:30
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Thehound666but fglrx is in the kernel, should I uninstall it? might seem decent to just take it and change my default boot to the old kernel08:30
Thehound666just so adept shuts up08:30
epimethK1765: X08:31
epimethK1765: x != X08:31
epimethK1765: linux is case sensitive08:31
K1765oh well go figure LOL08:31
epimethThehound666: exactly what I'm saying :-)08:31
Thehound666thanks for the help08:32
Thehound666will have to do that after I finish ftping up stuff08:32
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Quinn_Stormyeah I'm back with another annoying question...I've got a strange bug with my volume hotkeys where mute toggle works, but volume change doesn't (its detected fine, but instead of changing I get a display that shows 11% no matter what if I push volUp, and 0% no matter what on volDown)08:33
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epimethThehound666: hope everything will be okay... google your card and the kernel vers... see if anyone has problems08:33
K1765epimeth: ok.. i type sudo cp /home/michael/xorg.conf /etc/X11/ and it just goes to the next line and does nothing or says nothing08:34
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asso_salut08:35
epimethK1765: now type sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart08:35
K1765wooh.. ok brb lol08:35
Thehound666I am one of the few that got my card working08:35
Thehound666:)08:35
Thehound666took some surgery to the modules08:35
ubuntu_hello08:35
Thehound666Radeon X1950PRO XGE08:36
epimethThehound666: ooohhhh... so you know what you're doing then... be a man and upgrade, then get the card working again! and tell the world how you did it :-p08:36
Thehound666lol08:37
Thehound666I actually tried a 2.6.21 kernel but fglrx is not ready for it yet08:37
epimethshow off you're mad driver haxx0ring skillz08:37
Thehound666or I would have kept it08:37
epimethwe're on 20, right?08:37
Thehound666yes08:37
epimethkay08:37
epimeth:-)08:37
epimethI just let the upgrade do whatever it wants :-)08:38
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epimethI want my HDA sound card to actually work without a hack :-( *sobs*08:38
Thehound666the kernel rejects fglrx like the freaky guy down the street08:38
Thehound666:P08:38
Thehound666that is 2.6.2108:38
Quinn_Stormepimeth: what's wrong with your HDA card?08:38
epimethQuinn_Storm: it doesn't work properly...08:39
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epimethduh :-p08:39
Quinn_Stormepimeth: I gathered that much :-P08:39
Quinn_Stormepimeth: what specifically is wrong?08:39
epimethpre-patch or post-patch?08:39
Quinn_Stormeither, as I did come into this late08:39
Subsonic_epimeth:  I had a look in the xorg.conf and it lists the monitors modes correctly08:39
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Subsonic_I am guessing it is the driver08:40
epimethQuinn_Storm: you didn't... we were just talking about drivers so I brought up the fact that my sound card is patched :-)08:40
Quinn_Stormah08:40
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Quinn_Stormpatched how, then?08:40
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epimethSubsonic_: the only thing I know about display drivers is that I installed the 915resolution package in order to fix mine....08:40
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RobbanAnybody know a utility to change registers in the chipset, like WPCREDIT for widows?08:41
Subsonic_how do I get that?08:41
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epimethQuinn_Storm: patched with an alsa driver specific to a laptop very similar (but juuuust different enough) to mine08:41
epimethQuinn_Storm: I'll find the bug report for you....08:41
Quinn_Stormdid you first try all the 'model=' varieties for your chipset?08:41
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Subsonic_epimeth: how do I get that?08:42
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cloyettehi guys cn you tell me how to configure n connect to my wiresless network08:42
epimeth!915resolution08:42
cloyettei am using feisty08:42
Subsonic_!915resolution08:42
Subsonic_just type that?08:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 915resolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:42
epimethQuinn_Storm: https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=272508:43
epimethQuinn_Storm: so now I have the following problems:08:43
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Quinn_Stormepimeth: it seems it won't let me see it without loging in, moment08:43
Quinn_Stormah nevermind, found it08:43
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epimethQuinn_Storm: PCM does not have a 'mute' option, so the 'mute' button doesn't work08:44
Quinn_StormPCM never has 'mute'08:44
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Quinn_Stormyou have to make Front the main channel08:44
Quinn_Stormor whatever it is there08:44
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epimethQuinn_Storm: nope... then plugging in a mic doesn't mute the speakers and move the sound control to the mic :-)08:44
titanix88Quinn_Storm: Did u configure ur keyboard layout?08:45
cloyettesomeone help me with my wireless pleeez08:45
Quinn_Stormepimeth: then your driver isn't really supporting your chipset just yet08:45
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epimethwell, it *does* mute the speakers... but sound control is still on 'front', so volume unmutes the speakers and changes *their* volume08:45
Quinn_Stormtitanix88: my keyboard layout isn't the problem, as I mentioned before, it responds to the keys, just not correctly08:45
epimethQuinn_Storm: exactly :-)08:45
titanix88Quinn_Storm: i mean keyboard brand or identification?08:45
Quinn_Stormtitanix88: that has nothing to do with it, honest, it worked before a recent update even08:45
Quinn_Storm(gutsy update that is)08:46
epimethQuinn_Storm: that reminds me... acpi isn't fully supported for the keyboard yet, either :-)08:46
RictooGuys, I setup to be able to use smartctl without root in /etc/sudoers, but I still have to enter a pass to use it08:46
Quinn_Stormepimeth: weird laptop you have there08:46
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epimethfn+f11 doesn't register as anything08:46
titanix88hendaus: hi08:46
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epimethQuinn_Storm: no... just ultra new and friggin awesome :-p08:46
Quinn_Stormheh08:46
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Quinn_Stormyeah well I'm on a Darter08:46
Rictoorictoo ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/smartctl08:46
RictooThat's what I put in sodoers08:46
Rictoobut whenever I run it as root, I still have to enter a passsword08:47
epimethooooohhhh ubuntu certified08:47
ubuntu_hello08:47
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K1765epimeth: that didnt work, it restarted, the Kubuntu logo came up, the loading bar didnt move, then it went to a blank black screen, with the cursor _08:47
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Thehound666how is this for glxgears anyways? My drivers seem optimal?08:48
Thehound66628539 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5707.703 FPS08:48
Thehound66628745 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5748.863 FPS08:48
Thehound66628343 frames in 5.0 seconds = 5668.575 FPS08:48
RictooGuys, I setup to be able to use smartctl without root in /etc/sudoers, but I still have to enter a pass to use it. I put this in /etc/sudoers: rictoo ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/smartctl08:48
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epimethK1765: send me a pastebin link of your xorg.conf08:48
epimethThehound666: well color me jealous!08:49
K1765.......im on a different pc and couldnt anyways cuz dunno how lol08:49
Thehound666not sure what average is08:49
Subsonic_guys where can I get instructions on how to install the latest nvidia drivers?08:49
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epimeth4462 frames in 5.0 seconds = 892.224 FPS08:49
epimeth4009 frames in 5.0 seconds = 801.714 FPS08:49
epimeth5179 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1035.609 FPS08:49
epimeth5320 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1063.990 FPS08:49
K1765subsonic_: lol ive been trying the past 3 hours to get mine working.. good luck..08:50
Quinn_Stormugh if even I knew what packange *handled* it in kubuntu that'd help...as often is the case, its not something standard08:50
Thehound666me. mark the .run file as executable and place in home folder08:50
Thehound666logout08:50
Thehound666then do a console login08:50
epimethSubsonic_: go to help.ubuntu.com/community and type in nvidia in the search bar on top08:50
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Thehound666do sudo ./filename08:50
stupid_cupidhello08:50
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Thehound666then follow the prompts08:50
Thehound666boot into recovery mode and choose nvidia08:50
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RictooGuys, I setup to be able to use smartctl without root in /etc/sudoers, but I still have to enter a pass to use it. I put this in /etc/sudoers: rictoo ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/smartctl08:51
stupid_cupidhi08:51
Zhanevhi08:51
Thehound666if you have issues and have intel on-board blacklist intel_agp08:51
K1765epimeth: =/08:51
epimethK1765: best I can offer you at the second :-(08:51
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Thehound666oh forgot to say what to type in recovery mode08:51
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epimethK1765: actually!08:52
Thehound666dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:52
K1765epimeth: boo?08:52
Thehound666also choose kernel framebuffer off08:52
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epimethK1765: yea... do what Thehound666 just said08:52
epimethK1765: and if *that* doesn't work:08:52
Quinn_Stormok nevermind its just normal kmilo...08:52
K1765epimeth: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg??08:52
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cox377does anyone have any idea what the commandline would be to restart azureus from command line, it's the full azureus not the headless?08:53
cloyette_guys can someone plleeeeez help me with my wireless08:53
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epimethK1765: open the xorg.conf file and see if you can find where it says driver nvidia... and change nvidia to nv08:53
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apokryphos!wireless | cloyette_08:53
ubotucloyette_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:53
Thehound666-java azureus.jar?08:53
epimethK1765: yea, what you said :-)08:53
ZhanevQ: I've observed some problems with youtube recently.  My bandwidth is 10 times slower when downloading from youtube than from anywhere else (I've tried dailymotion for example and works fine).  Anybody else has seen this?  It's my provider?  Or is it youtube/google?08:53
Thehound666from the directory08:53
epimethcloyette_: what's the problem?08:54
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K1765epimeth: now im confused to hell.. so how do i open it and change it.. in term1 lol08:54
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cloyette_it's not connecting epimeth08:54
epimethZhanev: its youtube/google and/or your provider :-)08:54
epimethK1765: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:54
epimethK108:54
cloyette_it says there are no detectable wireless networks08:55
Zhanevepimeth: both? fucking hell :(08:55
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K1765epimeth: do i do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg also?08:55
epimethK1765: then you edit it and hit ctrl+x to exit. it will ask you if you want to save, you type "Y", then hit enter08:55
epimeth:-)08:55
epimethK1765: you do the dpkg reconfigure first08:55
epimethZhanev: what?08:55
Thehound666it's a good idea but you can try without and if it boots fine08:55
Thehound666check xorg.conf08:55
Thehound666should say nvidia for device08:56
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epimethcloyette_: open a terminal and type in iwconfig08:56
cloyette_ok epimeth08:56
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cloyette_it says no wireless extensions epimeth08:56
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epimethcloyette_: then your driver isn't installed properly08:56
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cloyette_ok...can u help me installing it?08:57
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epimethcloyette_: I would but I'm itching to get the hell out of work... its 10pm here08:57
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Thehound666drivers are the worst thing about Linux I must say. You're home free once you get past that08:57
epimethcloyette_: in the meanwhile check this link out:08:57
epimeth!wireless | cloyette_08:57
ubotucloyette_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:57
epimethcloyette_: if that doesn't help you then come back here... someone will help you out08:58
epimethThehound666: totally08:58
cloyette_ok thanx08:58
epimethgood luck :-)08:58
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dwidmannSubsonic_: I may09:01
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Subsonic_dwidmann: are you still able to help?09:02
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RictooGuys, I setup to be able to use smartctl without root in /etc/sudoers, but I still have to enter a pass to use it. I put this in /etc/sudoers: rictoo ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/smartctl09:03
dwidmannSubsonic_: I was downstairs, sorry for the (rather long) delay09:03
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Subsonic_no problem09:03
Subsonic_I am in a spot with my nvidia drivers and need to install some new ones.09:04
cloyette_ok guys...is there anyone else in here that can help me with my wireless problem??09:04
Subsonic_are there any packages available to do this for me easily?09:04
dwidmannSubsonic_: new ones eh? Are you using Kubuntu 7.04 or an earlier release?09:04
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dwidmannSubsonic_: also, how did you go about installing them to begin with (yes, this matters)09:04
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Subsonic_they were fine on the default installation09:05
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Subsonic_I then went to install a product called linuxmce09:05
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Subsonic_the first thing it did was complain about my drivers and ask if I wanted to update them09:05
Subsonic_I said yes and have had this problem since then09:06
FerodinHow do I instal the MP3 codecs? Im pretty new to Kubuntu :/09:06
Subsonic_the monitor reolutions are all listed fine in xorg.conf09:06
Subsonic_oops09:06
dwidmannSubsonic_: the answers to the questsions I asked?09:06
Subsonic_the monitor resolutions are all listed fine in xorg.conf09:06
Thehound666about right, there is this graphic driver installer the ubuntu community raves about. All it results for me is wrong driver and unable to start xserver09:06
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dwidmann!mp3 | Ferodin09:07
Subsonic_sorry first one didn't see it09:07
ubotuFerodin: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:07
Thehound666trying to remember its name09:07
Thehound666because I say avoid it09:07
Subsonic_7.0409:07
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dwidmannand the second (I never got an answer for that either)09:07
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Subsonic_also, how did you go about installing them to begin with (yes, this matters)?09:07
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Ferodinthank you very much Ubotu09:07
Subsonic_this one?09:07
dwidmannYeah, that one09:07
Admiral_ChicagoFerodin: thats a bot..09:08
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Ferodinhaha :>09:08
Subsonic_I then went to install a product called linuxmce, the first thing it did was complain about my drivers and ask if I wanted to update them, I said yes and have had this problem since then09:08
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Subsonic_the monitor resolutions are all listed fine in xorg.conf09:08
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Thehound666all I can say is the standard windows way only Linuxed09:08
voicuwhat was the command to get the uuid of the harddrives?09:08
Thehound666remove that program09:09
pabligenohi .|09:09
pabligenoalguien que hable espaoL?09:09
Thehound666then purge all your drivers configs09:09
Thehound666reinstall the right drivers09:09
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Subsonic_the reolution before linuxmce got involved was 1280x1024 or something similar09:09
dwidmannSubsonic_: okay ... try this: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new"09:09
voicupabligeno: try #kubuntu-es or #ubuntu-es09:09
cloyette_plz somebody help me with my wireless09:09
cloyette_plz plz plz09:09
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Subsonic_will do09:10
Thehound666I could try if it's basic cloyette but I only have 1 wireless card, which Kubuntu auto-detected fine09:10
voicuso, can someone please tell me the command that returns the harddisk uuid's?09:10
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cloyette_really??09:10
Subsonic_brb09:10
cloyette_well uhm thehound666 what did u do to connect to the wireless09:11
cloyette_??09:11
Thehound666yeah it's hit or miss with Kubuntu09:11
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Ferodinbah, When I open amarok and try to download the MP3 codecs, It just hangs, and I have to terminate it... any suggestions?09:11
Thehound666it pretty much detected the pci card and activated it as my lan connection09:11
Thehound666not much fiddling iirc09:11
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Thehound666I did have to kill eth009:12
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Thehound666made my connection a bit less stable09:12
Thehound666don't ask me why09:13
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Thehound666Ferodin: Amarok is junk for that for some bug. try a konsole and type09:14
Thehound666sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs09:14
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Thehound666with amarok closed09:14
Thehound666should work fine after09:14
Ferodinah, cheers, il try that09:14
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Subsonic_dwidmann: i have done that and it installed09:14
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Subsonic_do I need to change the linking within xorg.conf from nvidia to nvidia-glx-new?09:15
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dwidmannSubsonic_: no, but you do need to restart x09:16
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Thehound666no nvidia is proper if you're using proprietary. I thinks it's "nv" for open source09:16
Thehound666I do a full reboot to let the kernel reload09:17
Subsonic_I have just rebooted09:17
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Thehound666my preference09:17
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Thehound666since these drivers do install kernel modules09:17
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Subsonic_just coming back up now09:17
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dwidmannSubsonic_: try running "sudo nvidia-settings" and changing the res, see what it does09:18
hinesdhelloo09:18
sorsishow do i make windows cascade in a way macosx does while selecting next active application?09:18
hinesdis there anyone in here?09:18
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hinesdanyone know  if when you boot09:18
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hinesdit gives error 1609:18
hinesdfrom grub09:18
hinesdandone know how to fix that\09:18
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Thehound666maybe reinstall grub from the live cd if I can recall how it's done09:19
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philipponhow do I register09:20
philippon?09:20
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hinesdreinstalling from a live cd?09:20
Thehound666do /msg nickserv register password email09:20
Thehound666or the other way around09:20
hinesdok09:20
Thehound666I always mix it up09:20
hinesdbut heres the thing09:20
Subsonic_Just crashed the machine09:20
hinesdwhat i did09:20
Meglohttp://lolcode.com/home09:20
Subsonic_won't boot09:20
hinesdwas installed xp09:20
Subsonic_lol09:20
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FerodinThehound666: I've installed the extracodecs, but it still wont work ...09:20
Subsonic_I am re-installing09:20
hinesdyeAG09:20
Subsonic_:-)09:21
hinesdi JSU CRASHED MINE09:21
hinesdAND I CNA'T GET THE THE XP PARTITION TO get my data back09:21
hinesdoops caps09:21
hinesdhaha09:21
hinesdjsut sayes error 1609:21
Thehound666hmm odd did it close while you did? sometimes a hung proggie shows in ksysguard09:21
Subsonic_I will install new and then run that apt-get nvidia-glx-new command instead of the open off the cd09:21
Thehound666after you think it's gone09:21
Subsonic_will the glx driver run open gl apps?09:21
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FerodinI open the file with amarok, It loads, but then it just closes  :S09:22
Thehound666yes I know what happened is ntldr erased your MBR and it's not finding windows on the partition it expects, instead it's launching grub09:22
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Thehound666a grub reinstall should fix it09:22
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Thehound666http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435109:24
gan|y|medhi09:24
Ferodinah, yes! Kaffeine saves my day!!09:24
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Thehound666<Ferodin> ah, yes! Kaffeine saves my day!!09:25
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Thehound666usually ruins mine09:25
Thehound666jk lol09:25
Ferodinhaha :P amarok ruins mine09:25
Thehound666hinesd link was for you09:25
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Thehound666that should solve it all unless you weren't careful09:26
Thehound666and overwritten Ubuntu09:26
Thehound666I hope not09:26
Thehound666http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435109:26
Thehound666if you missed it09:26
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hinesdhi srry went to bathroom09:29
hinesdthis is actually the exact process i used09:30
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hinesdto install it09:30
hinesdthe one on the link you posted09:30
hinesdand now it sayes09:30
hinesderror 1609:30
hinesdwhich i do beleive is09:30
hinesdinconsistent files system09:30
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andrehello, I jus removed my master optical drive and replaced it with my secondary one, now the drive is not recognized, what can I do?09:30
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diego_hi09:30
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LjL!enter09:31
ubotuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:31
hinesdok09:31
diego_ok09:31
diego_who manages here09:32
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hinesdso basically i followed the directions on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435109:32
andreI jus removed my master optical drive and replaced it with my secondary one, now the drive is not recognized, what can I do?09:32
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diego_did you check the switches on the unit09:33
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andrewas that for me?09:33
diego_yes09:33
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andreyes i did09:33
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diego_ok09:34
Thehound666if by some freak occurance your partition got set inactive you can use gparted in the live cd to set it active09:34
Thehound666can install it right in the live session09:34
Thehound666how I modify partitions09:34
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rock_jou09:35
rock_was geht09:35
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andre<diego> any ideas what could be wrong?09:36
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AndehHello...09:36
diego_are you talking about a cdrom unit, or something like that?09:36
andreyes...dvdrom09:37
AndehHow does a raid01 array work? I know raid 10 has several raid0 sets, but how does raid 01 work then?09:37
hinesdok, so if i messed everything up if i get the partitioner on the live-cd to work then i cna reinstall on a new partition or the same partition?09:38
diego_my question is if did you check the master/slave phisical switch in the unit09:38
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andreyes i did...i disconnected them and reconnected09:38
AndehAnd another question, why are there 421 people in the room and only 5 active?09:38
andrethe drive can open just isn't detected by the filesystem09:38
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diego_ahh09:38
cloyetteguys...i'm really desperate09:39
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cloyettecan someone pleez help me with my driver?09:39
diego_i just dont know,sorry09:39
Andehcloyette: Get a taxi.09:39
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andrethanks anyways09:39
AndehWow... silence09:39
cloyetteok...i have a serious problem with my wireless driver09:40
cloyettecan someone help me pleez??09:40
neverblue?09:40
neverbluebegging?09:40
neverblueyou have resorted to begging?09:40
hinesdlook on the driver's site09:40
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AndehApparently the #ubuntu channel made her beg, right?09:41
neverbluehow do u know its a her?09:41
AndehThe *AAARGH* people in there are *twitch* rude.09:41
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philippon /msg NickServ help IDENTIFY09:41
AndehBecause I bought my dolphin.09:41
titanix88hendaus: wb09:42
Andeh(CORRECTION: @post 9 lines away: "Him or Her")09:42
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AndehViRgiLiO's looks like his modem is rebooting.09:43
Andehlol09:43
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AndehAll my neighbours, the ones close enough anyway, have passwords on their wireless.09:44
AndehIs there a simple tool to hack their connections so I can have their internet? Mine sucks.09:44
Andeh(Not the kind of thing you get asked often eh?09:44
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Andeh)09:44
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gan|y|medi have a compilation problem with an ubuntu-rt kernel and fglrx. could anybody have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23147/ please?09:44
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hinesdI first setup ubuntu from a live cd then installed xp, now xp made my linux grub disapear(inactive?) so  i tried to reinstall it using the commands from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 and now it jsut sayes error 16 every time i boot up.09:45
Cosmoboyhi!09:45
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CosmoboyI need help to delete an interface in iwconfig, i've just readed the man file but nothing09:45
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Cosmoboydoes omeone can give me the command please?09:46
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AndehA slightly less stupid question might be: "My graphics card is an obsolete ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9200 that the website doesnt even have a WINDOWS download for, let alone linux!09:46
AndehCan i still get drivers/acceleration for this? BERYL sucks without them, even crashes X sometimes!09:46
yknottCosmoboy: what do you mean by delete an interface? ok i understand delete and interface, but what do you wish to accomplish?09:46
hendausthanx titanix88 :)09:46
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Cosmoboyi've just putted an usb wifi key09:47
Andehyknott: Probably means to remove the device from the list and disable it?09:47
Cosmoboyand i've got 2 interface for the wifi09:47
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innernautanyone know of a package for ubuntu that can convert word 2007 docx files to pdf?09:47
Andehinnernaut: No, but there are ones form converting DOCX to something a PDF program can handle...09:48
Cosmoboyand when i launch wifi-radar in a shell it gives me wmaster0  Interface doesn't support scanning : Operation not supported09:48
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yknottinnernaut: oowrite?09:48
yknottoowriter?09:48
Cosmoboybut there is a wlan009:48
innernautAndeh: like what?09:48
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Andehinnernaut: Well, OpenOffice Writer (oowriter) is like MS Word, and can open Word documents. It has a PDF export function in the File menu.09:49
AndehI am not certain about XDOC but it's worth a try09:49
cloyetteguys...plz wireless help09:49
cloyettei'm beggin09:49
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Cosmoboyyknott: had you understood? i've got bad english :)09:50
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innernautAndeh: yeah, I tried it... no go, I am checking to see if they might have an update or something...09:50
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yknottAndeh: for the windows driver of mobility radeon 9200, seems you would use  http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/xp/radeon-prer300-xp.html  and http://www.driverheaven.net/modtool/09:51
Andehinnernaut: There is probably a plugin for Writer, but I am certain there is a converter for docx to doc.09:51
AndehThe whole point of docx is to make it more flexible, compatible and smaller because it is written in XML.09:52
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Andehyknott: Yay thanks!09:53
yknottAndeh: and yet?09:53
Andehyknott:?09:53
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yknottAndeh: and for gnu/linux, i have the mobility 9600, which i can use the generic ati driver or the fglrx driver09:54
yknotti am not sure if the radeon mobility 9200 fits under that too09:54
Andehyknott: I tried the lowest one i could find but it messed up X...09:54
Cosmoboyyknott: any idea?09:54
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innernautandeh:  yes, but for some reason, when I convert my document from docx to doc and load the doc in word 2003, it isn't properly formatted...  so I am hoping a conversion to pdf will yield an accurate conversion09:55
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Andehinnernaut: Exporting to PDF leaves the document exactly as it is, so if it looks crap now, the pdf will look crap.09:56
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yknottCosmoboy: i am not familiar with wifi-radar;09:56
yknottinnernaut: may i know why you are using docx?09:57
Andehinnernaut: Do you only have access to the docx version?09:57
Andehyknott: If innernaut made it, he would have exported it to something more compatible by now. I am guessing it is not his document.09:57
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Cosmoboyyknott: ok...but how can i delete it?09:57
fredohello09:58
ozzicleAnyone have any ideas on a twinview setup that lets me maximize certain programs across both monitors as opposed to just the monitor the window is locate don?09:58
Cosmoboyi saw in ifconfig I can down any interface I want yknott09:58
Cosmoboybut with iwconfig I didn't found09:58
Andehyknott: Both pages are windows specific (my drivers).09:58
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yknottyeah iwconfig lets you configure the wireless options; ifconfig would let you down/up any of the hardware09:59
yknottAndeh: yeah, they were both for the windows versions; i thought you mentioned that you could not even get the windows driver for it ;)09:59
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Andehyknott: "They dont even have windows drivers, LET ALONE LINUX" lol09:59
yknott:D09:59
Andehinnernaut: I am reading that DOCX is simply lots of XML files and a doc inside a zip.10:00
Andehinnernaut: So basically, try renaming your docx to a zip, and open the DOC. It might work, probably will look crap but i reccomend trying10:00
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hinesdmine sayes  when i type setup (hd0,0) it sayes it finds stage 1 but not stage 210:00
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Andehinnernaut: Rename it to a zip, then open it and look thru the folders for a doc10:00
tidrionhow do I add repositories to adept10:00
tidrionand is Feisty out for PPC?10:00
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yknottAndeh: which driver are you using now? "ati" ?10:01
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Andehyknott: OK, i need Mob. Radeon 9200 support under LINUX. Kubuntu.10:01
Andehyknott: Driver? I didn't specify anything but the screen is fine (apart from Beryl which has tearing) so i am assuming Ubuntu was smart enough to select the ATI option.10:01
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yknottAndeh: perhaps the regular radeon driver will work for the mobility version, i am not sure though    http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon-prer200.html10:02
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yknottAndeh: so then you already have support for your hardware through the "ati" driver10:02
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Andehyknott: Yes but acceleration is shit10:02
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innernautyknot & andeh:  actually it is my resume, I am just using a new template that isn't supported in 2003...  so this thing needs to look perfect...  It prints great from word2007, but i assume most employers who i would send it to are still using word 2003...10:02
Andehyknott: lol sorry. I'd prefer anything to speed it up.10:02
Andehinnernaut: Again, why are you using docx?10:03
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innernautandeh:  for the new template10:03
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Andehinnernaut: Do you have ONLY linux access now?10:03
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yknottso from word2007 make it into a pdf10:03
Andehinnernaut: Cause you locked yourself into a Microsopht issue...10:04
innernautandeh: no... I have vmware runnning...10:04
yknottinnernaut:  so use pdfcreator on windows10:04
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Andehinnernaut: oh. Vista?10:04
Andehlol10:04
innernautandeh: no, just xp...10:04
yknottinnernaut: then "print" from word2007 to the pdfcreator printer10:04
Andehinnernaut: Using Office 2007 right?10:04
yknottinnernaut: which will make a pdf10:04
Andehinnernaut: Office itself has a PDF creator.10:05
Andehinnernaut: LOL next time tell us you have office 2007 :-D10:05
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AndehLOL ATIs program sucks. If i had a $300 graphics card, they would make me buy a worse one and give me a 50 dollar discount :)10:06
innernautandeh & yknott: yeah...  It is "not responding"... gotta love the MS error feedback10:06
hinesdgrub> root (hd0,0)10:07
hinesdgrub> setup (hd0,0)10:07
hinesd Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes10:07
hinesd Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... no10:07
hinesdError 25: Disk read error10:07
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Andehinnernaut: ROFL10:07
yknottinnernaut: from office2007 can you not save it as doc (97/2000/xp)?10:07
Andehyknott:                                                  The ATI Proprietary Linux driver currently supports                           Radeon 8500 and later AGP or PCI Express graphics products,                           as well as FireGL 8700 and later products.  We do not                           currently plan to include support for any products                           earlier than this. Drivers for earlier                           pr10:07
AndehSo 9200 mobility will work right?10:07
innernautyknott: yes... but when you open the doc in 2003 it still garbles the template10:07
yknottinnernaut: but really for a resume, for control over the page layout, you should be using a page layout program, perhaps scribus10:08
Andehyknott: Can't you export it directly to a PDF from Office2007??10:08
innernautinnernaut:  is that for ubuntu?10:08
Andehyknott: Will the thing work then?10:08
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yknottAndeh: i do not know - i thought innernaut replied that he could but that office responds "not responding"10:08
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Andehyknott: Oh. Um...10:09
yknottAndeh:  i do not know if it will work, but you could try it anyhow;10:09
innernautyknott: not responding issue is true...10:09
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innernautyknott: it freezes word completely... haha.. what a piece10:09
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Andehyknott: "Try"ing resulted in 7 times spent reading unix manuals and restoring XORG.CONF backups... LOL...10:09
yknottwell press "Print Screen" save it in ms paint as a bmp, lol :)10:09
yknottinnernaut: so then you may try pdfcreator  pdfcreator.sf.net10:10
innernautheheh10:10
Andehinnernaut: You should run whatever you are running on my hardware... Guarantees weeks of fun...10:10
yknottAndeh: o so you tried it already and found that the fglrx driver does not work ?10:10
Andehinnernaut: If your perspective of fun is clicking repeatedly at the END TASK button10:10
yknottwith the mobility 9200?10:10
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Andehyknott: No, i tried it half a year ago when ATI was a company.10:11
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innernautandeh: yes...  and don't forget "Send error report?"  ... what rubbish10:11
AndehBack then everything they had for linux blew my system up10:11
Andehinnernaut: Send error report works when my internet is unplugged. Apparently if you DO have internet it checks how crappy your connection is and slows down the simulation accordingly.10:12
Andehinnernaut: Apparently my schools 30MB/s internet does it faster than this crap.10:12
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yknottAndeh: feel like sharing your X log?10:13
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innernautandeh:  Oh great...  now windows wants to reboot after claiming it installed the updates I told it not to install... the glory10:14
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yknottAndeh: it appears that the fglrx driver supports MOBILITY RADEON 9200 (M9+ 5C61), MOBILITY RADEON 9200 (M9+ 5C63),10:15
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Andehinnernaut: Oh joy! Now we can sit and happily stare at the rolling bars!!!10:15
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Andehyknott: Yay. I'm glad ATI got its 3.2 billion and left AMD with the job to not screw my system every time i install drivers!10:15
AndehI am very random today10:16
AndehSo, i'll install this crap shall I?10:16
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AndehLOL the driver only supports 32 bit linux... oh the glory10:16
AndehLOL luckily this is crap hardware from years ago (is 32bit)10:17
yknotti have the fglrx operating on 64bit10:17
Andehyknott: Yes, it supports AMD10:17
yknott:D10:18
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innernautandeh & yknott:  found something that could be valuable...  trying it...  http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2352335&postcount=310:18
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yknottinnernaut: even if you can read the docx file, that does not mean the import will be flawless10:20
AndehIf i bought the most expensive dual core availible from intel i would gape in horror at the drivers inability to accelerate my uber crap graphics card.10:20
yknottinnernaut: and one may wonder the degree to which ms has made it so10:20
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yknottAndeh: intel makes dual core graphics chips? ;)10:20
Andehyknott: DOC has been around for 12 years and reading is 80% perfect, writing is 60% good.10:21
Andehyknott: Dual core PROCESSOR. Using this crappy 9200 graphics card.10:21
yknottAndeh: nor should it increase the performance of the graphics card10:21
RictooHow do I change the resolution at the login screen? Because my normal user resolution is 1280x1024, but kubuntu always puts the login screen at 160010:22
Rictoo:\10:22
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innernautyknott:  I am keeping my fingers crossed10:22
RictooOh, and my monitor only supports 1280x1024 (highest)10:22
Rictoo:p10:22
yknottAndeh: but essentially you want to run beryl ?10:22
Andehyknott: Essentially i want to throw this crap at my window. And beryl is too slow for the rest of my PC anyway, so no. I want drivers.10:23
AndehWow that was good10:23
yknottAndeh: and you have drivers ;)10:23
yknottAndeh: interesting how beryl is too slow for the rest of your pc, rather than the rest of your pc being too slow for beryl, lol10:23
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yknottAndeh: so it seems you can use the open source "atI" generic driver or the proprietory fglrx driver10:24
RictooHow do I change the resolution at the login screen? Because my normal user resolution is 1280x1024, but kubuntu always puts the login screen at 160010:24
yknottRictoo: we caught it the first time, thanks; perhaps you could remove the 1600x so on entries from the xorg.conf file10:24
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Rictooyknott: There are no 1600x entries in xorg.cong10:25
Rictooconf*10:25
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yknottRictoo: is there not an option to set that from within system settings?   systemsettings10:26
RictooAh, my mistake, I removed the 1600x from xorg.conf10:27
yknottRictoo: ok i see nothing there about screen size10:27
RictooIt should work now, thanks :)10:27
yknottRictoo: np10:27
yknottRictoo: let me know if that helped10:27
Rictoosure ;)10:27
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Goliath23hi. does anybody know a dvd-software that can play dvd .iso images?10:28
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ulrichhey gunys10:29
ulrichguys*10:29
yknottGoliath23: no but i would guess mplayer or vlc10:29
Rictooyknott: Oddly it is still 1600x10:29
Rictoo:\10:29
yknottha ;)10:30
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ulrichokay i have a problem... i cant find my windows applications.. i guess normally they can be found in /home/myname/drive_c/ but it isnt =/10:30
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cvill64hello, has anybody had problems playing h264 encoded files in mkv containers after installing all necessary codecs ?10:31
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yknottRictoo: not sure, something to do with virtual desktop size?10:33
Goliath23yknott: cool, vlc does it with menus! great!10:33
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seusalut10:34
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leiarI've never used bluetooth on my laptop. How can I find out if the laptop has got device for bluetooth?10:36
hatekilldestroyLaptop manual :)10:37
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leiarhatekilldestroy: I know. But then I have to stand up and leave the chair.. Isn't there a command in konsole to find if it is present or not10:38
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hatekilldestroyhaha. god forbid you leave your chair. i'm sure there's a command but i don't mind getting up as much as you do :-/10:39
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hatekilldestroywouldn't ubuntu automatically find it anyways? it would be in a menu or something then.10:40
yknottGoliath23: awesome ;)10:40
Goliath23yknott: even .img files10:40
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yknottGoliath23: gotta love the french!10:41
rolnyzxleiar, what do you want to find?10:41
Goliath23:)10:41
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leiarrolnyzx: If there is a bluetooth device on my laptop. It doesn't work and it doesn't report any devices in system settings10:42
fdovingleiar: 'lshw' might give you some hints.10:42
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rolnyzxleiar, can't help :(10:43
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yknottRictoo: still there?10:43
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trakinashey there!10:43
yknottRictoo: do you see a "virtual" in a display section in the xorg.conf file?10:43
trakinasI just can't copy a file from a DVD-R to my /home/10:43
fdovingleiar: 'lshw -short|less' to be able to read it all10:43
trakinasit says the file isnt accessible10:44
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leiarok, thanks all (two). No bluetooth on my laptop :-(10:45
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trakinasanyone??10:45
rolnyzxtrakinas, have you mounted the DVD via gui, or via command line?10:45
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trakinasrolnyzx: gui.10:46
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rolnyzxtry to do it from the command line10:46
trakinasKDE auto mounted it. or ivman... whataver it is controlling them...10:46
trakinasok10:46
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AndehLOL ViRgiLiO has internet problems10:49
AndehHe has connected/disconnected 79 times10:49
Andehprobably more10:49
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rolnyzxagain10:50
rolnyzxlol10:50
|lostbyte|Hi, how do i see the prerouting table of iptables ?10:50
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AndehUmmmm10:50
trakinasrolnyzx: io eror10:51
trakinas*error10:51
Andehyknott: You here?10:51
trakinasit mounts, but cant copy10:51
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AndehCreating directory fglrx-install10:51
AndehVerifying archive integrity... All good.10:51
AndehUncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.28.8....Extraction failed.10:51
AndehSignal caught, cleaning up10:51
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leiarhow do I renew IP adresse on wireless device?10:51
rolnyzxtrakinas, maybe it's scratched10:51
HaffeHmmm. Is there any way to make the hibernate script work with the nvidia module?10:52
trakinasit is an dvdrw... :/10:52
trakinasused TWO times...10:52
trakinasyou HAVE TO be WRONG. hehehhe10:52
yknottAndeh: yeah10:52
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rolnyzxmaybe it's the DVDdrive10:52
AndehUm... i dont think i have enough disk space...10:52
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yknottleiar: dhclient device (such as eth1 or wlan0)10:53
Andehyknott!! No space on drive!10:54
yknottAndeh: well you could find out if enough space is available10:54
trakinasrolnyzx: i dont think so! i will try another media. (or whatever it is spelled )10:54
yknottAndeh: so did the fglrx driver consume all of your space? :)10:54
Andeh0 bytes lol10:54
Andehyknott: It said it was "cleaning up" after failiure10:54
Andehso it shouldnt have10:54
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Arwenanyone here using an ATI card with fglrx?10:55
AndehArwen: I am trying...10:55
yknottAndeh: no i was just thinking you would blame ati anything that was not going well10:55
yknottArwen: yes10:55
Andehyknott: lol10:55
Arwenyknott, have you ever had the problem where random blank lines appear on the screen after exiting a fullscreen gl app?10:55
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yknottArwen: no not yet10:55
Arwenhmm'10:55
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Andehyknott: I have 1 GB free space on / (home seperate partit is full)10:56
Andehyknott: Can i run it in / ?10:56
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ArwenAndeh, I think it's time to buy a new hard drive :-P10:57
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Andeharwen: Laptop...10:58
aztunhi10:58
ArwenAndeh, bah, you can put new hard drives in a laptop, lol10:58
AndehThey guaranteed 80 GB but it only came with 30 and 90% of that got eaten by windows which i cant remove cause my mum has too much stuff on it.10:58
Andehlol10:58
Arwenit's true... you can get em on newegg and similar10:59
Andeh./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution10:59
Andehyknott: I run the ATI installer and I get THIS!!!10:59
Arwenup to 200GB only though..10:59
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AndehIt extracts fine tho10:59
ArwenAndeh, try using "bash ./ati-installer.sh"10:59
srednathe version of current kmail used by kubuntu is broken10:59
AndehI cant beleive the integrity is ok and they have a SYNTAX ERROR!!!10:59
Andehoh ok10:59
srednathe forward functions does not work10:59
Arwen/bin/sh is a symlink to /bin/dash so sometimes stuff breaks10:59
srednathey replace the email i try to forward to with nonsens10:59
sredna!"#/()"!#/()))=(/(=)/"!#()=/#"%10:59
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yknottArwen: thanks11:00
AndehNo, the ati installer removes the dir :((!11:00
Andehill try running THAT in bash11:00
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yknottAndeh: i usually have the installer create packages rather than installing directly11:00
trakinasdamn... lets try with another dvd...11:00
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AndehUm... and i do this how?11:00
yknottAndeh: you should also be able to use the fglrx driver in the repositories11:00
innernautandeh:  this docx crap is a bastard...  I am about to redo my resume11:00
yknottati-installer --help11:00
ArwenAndeh, "installerblah.sh --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty"11:01
aztuncan anyone tell me which driver should I use with nvidia gforce5500?? nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?11:01
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yknottArwen: exactly11:01
Andehyknott: Umm... and you waited 3 and a half hours to tell me this now why?11:01
yknottlol11:01
ArwenAndeh, lolz11:01
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Arwenanyway, back to watching Kanon... don't talk to me11:01
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Andehyknott: No, the bastard .run file gives a syntax error and deletes everything to make sure i cant check what it was...11:02
trakinassame error... =(11:02
AndehAAARGHHH!!!!11:02
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AndehOk, what's the frrrrrglexpigley driver package name?11:02
yknottthere is an option to instruct the installer to not delete the tmp folder it makes11:02
trakinasfuck!11:02
trakinassorry..11:02
trakinas=x11:02
PriceChildtrakinas, No you're not :) Please don't use language like that,11:02
Andehyknott: Yes, unless this installer is a gaycrap made by AMD/ATI.11:02
yknott--keep11:02
Andehoh11:03
Andehlanguage11:03
Andehlol11:03
PriceChildAndeh, Please watch the language and don't use gay as a derrogatory term.11:03
Andehyknott lol who cares just tell me the package please11:03
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AndehPriceChild: What is derrogatory?11:03
PriceChildAndeh, bad :)11:03
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trakinassorry, really... but see... how shoud I feel when you have a drive that look like is not working?11:03
ArwenAndeh, the way you used "gay". Let's drop it.11:04
AndehGay means happy, which is in turn not rude, and not bad, since people who find happy bad are jumping off skyscrapers anyway. Now what  is the package name?11:04
trakinasI will try with a film...11:04
Arwentrakinas, buy a new one? :-)11:04
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trakinasArwen: it is a new one11:04
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trakinasPioneer 11211:04
yknottAndeh: lol11:04
Arwentrakinas, then ask for a refund?11:04
trakinas*112D11:04
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trakinasI can't.11:04
Arwenwow, you got screwed over, lol11:04
Andehyknott: lol... please... what is the package name for the flgrphkdgx drivers?11:04
trakinasbought over internet 3 months ago already.11:04
Andehyknott: Spelling lol11:04
trakinasno warrenty anymore.11:04
yknottAndeh:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI11:05
Andehlol that messed x up too11:05
jovansThe current Ubuntu official packages update policy (described here) is limited to critical bug fixes, meaning after each release there will be no regular bug fixes or improvement updates. This a good practice for stability purposes specially if you are planning to do an enterprise level support but it also means that until the next release you will not be able to get the latest and greatest software versions for your system.11:05
Andehlol this sucks. I'm going to bed now11:05
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ArwenAndeh, xorg-driver-fglrx.... but just installing that won't help11:05
aztuncan anyone tell me which driver should I use with nvidia gforce5500?? nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new?11:05
jovansso what to do using inofficial sources to be upd2date?11:05
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AndehArwen: Why, is it just meant to take up disk space?11:05
trakinasseriously... I can burn, *rip*,  and open dvd's. but I cant copy files to my hd?11:05
ulrichhey guys... the german channel isnt helpful as always.. does anybody has a good software for the motorola rizr mobile phone?11:05
spark_aztun:  sry i dont know the glx-new driver just use nvidia.glx11:05
trakinasweird.11:05
ArwenAndeh, no, it's just that you have to configure it11:05
Jack3how do i tell what graphics card i have11:05
Arwenotherwise, nothing will happen (other than you losing any direct rendering you mighta had if you were using r300)11:06
aztunJack3: use lscpi11:06
AndehArwen: I am sleepy. *sleeps*11:06
Arwenhehe... and I just wanna watch Kanon damn it...11:06
ArwenSTOP TALKING TO ME! :-)11:06
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AndehArwen: Are smileys derragotory too?11:07
trakinas(btw, can I say bullocks?)11:07
AndehYou look angry yet you used a *YAY* smiley.11:07
ArwenAndeh, err, let's just drop it?11:07
Andeherr11:07
Andeh*sleeps*11:07
Arwentrakinas, to be fair, nobody really cares if you swear11:07
trakinasArwen: just asking.11:07
Andehlol11:07
Andehyes i got kicked from11:08
yknottaztun: either or11:08
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yknottaztun: nvigia-glx is provided by either nvidia-glx-legacy or nvidia-glx-new11:09
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Andehubuntu11:09
Andehlol11:09
AndehIf i get 8 GB of ram can i load my filesystem into ram and run ubuntu?11:09
AndehThat sounds like fun11:09
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ArwenAndeh, yeah, that's called a ramdisk11:10
Arwenstill not smart though, lol11:10
AndehArwen: Why? DSL is smart...11:10
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ArwenAndeh, pre-loading your filesystem? err.... then you'd have no RAM left for normal stuff, lol11:11
trakinasnow, I cant open a dvd film i could on gentoo... hmmmm11:11
AndehOh great... i run the restricted manager and get this "you need to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-ck1"11:11
AndehApt-get doesnt find it!!11:11
trakinasmaybe fstab config?11:12
Andeh*still trying to install ATI graphic drivers here!*11:12
trakinasin gentoo it was configure at /dev/hdd11:12
AndehArwen: And with 128 GB of ram no money left for life either!11:12
ArwenAndeh, hehe :-P11:12
AndehAnyone know what to do about this?11:12
AndehOh great... i run the restricted manager and get this "you need to install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-ck1"11:13
AndehApt-get doesnt find it!!11:13
AndehThat11:13
AndehI added a kernel patch that claimed to speed things up11:13
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ArwenAndeh, uh... are you running a weird kernel?11:13
Andehck1 is my kernel11:13
Andehand now it wants that package, one that shouldnt exist11:13
Andehlol11:13
AndehD-:11:13
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trakinaswell... I have to go now. time to go to college.11:14
trakinascheers all!11:14
ArwenAndeh, well, that's what you get for building your own kernel :-)11:14
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Arwenspeaking of that, that also makes you ineligible for support!11:14
trakinasgood lucky for you all.11:14
AndehArwen: I didnt build it lol, the patch did :P11:14
AndehSo what do i DO!!?11:14
Andeh;O11:14
AndehWill all packages do this to me?11:14
ArwenAndeh, um, yes. Lol11:14
Daisuke_Idosucks to be you...11:14
AndehArwen: *cries*11:15
AndehSo i need to reboot to a less retarded kernel and try again? Sounds simple/11:15
Arwenwe don't like it when people use "retarded" as an insult either, but yeah, get a stock kernel.11:15
Andehkernel ck1 "increases responsiveness" ive had 9 crashes since then lol...11:15
ArwenAndeh, revert. That's what happens when you use custom kernels.11:16
Daisuke_IdoAndeh: if you feel the need to build your own kernel and tweak it endlessly...  kubuntu's probably not the distro for you11:16
AndehArwen: It was not an insult.  It was a typing mistake from the croatian word retrodiran which means old style homebrew as in non-stock kernels which are used extensively in croatia.11:16
Daisuke_Idowhile you can, it isn't recommended, for all of the above reasons11:16
AndehI expected the english word to be similar and remembered this word from movies.11:17
AndehBut whatever.11:17
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AndehSo i need to reboot,... ok11:17
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Andehbe back in... 10 seconds (lol this kernels not so bad after all)11:17
Andehbye11:17
GrahamHey, could anybody help me with a problem I have? Basicly my microphone, which works, doesn't work in flash player 9, and I don't know why.11:18
AndehI chose *buntu because i wanted to learn more about linux the non-hard way11:18
AndehUbuntu is excellent but hardcore linux users seem to prefer debian over it due to more control11:18
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GrahamAndeh: They don't, trust me.11:19
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Alarmhello , does anyone know if there is a math application that solves integrals step by step ?11:19
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AndehGraham: Then that man is not a hardcore user. yay.11:19
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AndehI need a shower. brb11:19
yknotthardcore users are still users, or did you mean hackers?11:19
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GrahamAndeh: You get the same control over any Linux system, it's just the expirienced users wouldn't be seen dead on a "easy distro"11:20
GrahamUnless they have to use the console 5 times to prove "i can fix linux" then it's the cancer that's killing it.11:20
AndehGraham: My point exactly. Well... maybe not, but i meant that too.11:20
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AndehI make up really complex explenations for anything bad i accidentally did that confuse the accuser and he drops it. Works mostly.11:21
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AndehDid twice here11:21
Andeh:D11:21
AndehWhat's a non-easy distro then?11:21
AndehThat a linux hardcore would be caught dead on11:22
GrahamSlack, Gentoo.11:22
Nostferkatheyre all the same really in hardness11:22
GrahamGentoo used to be a horrible to install distro, you had to literally do everything yourself, partition, copy, setup users.11:22
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GrahamThere was litterally a book on installing gentoo.11:22
Nostferkaslack is quite easy now11:22
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Andehlol11:23
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Andehmy friends first distro was slack11:23
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Andeh:D11:24
Andehsaid it was great11:24
GrahamI think Gentoo has an easy GUI installer now.11:24
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ArwenGentoo? easy? what has the world come to :-\11:24
yanisI have Ubuntu.What do I apt-get to install Kubuntu?11:24
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Arwenyanis, kubuntu-desktop11:24
Grahamkubuntu-desktop11:25
Arwenor kde-core11:25
yknottapt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:25
Nostferkawhats better?11:25
Nostferkagnome or kde?11:25
ArwenNostferka, matter of choice11:25
GrahamKDE!11:25
Nostferkaor x?11:25
GrahamFOR SPRTA!11:25
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Arwenand err, if you wanna use X by itself, um... have fun11:25
Nostferkai cant tell the difference11:25
yknottxfce, lol11:25
Nostferkaorryt lol11:25
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Grahamx is the program that manages the desktop :)11:26
Arwenwell no. that would be the DE11:26
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ArwenX just creates a framebuffer to draw nice pretty pixels on11:26
GrahamArwen: You know what I mean!11:26
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GrahamThe DE uses it to... buffer... stuff...11:27
Kr4t05Has anyone else ever managed to install Descent 3?11:27
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GrahamWhat the fuck is that?11:28
SanneKr4t05: I have11:28
Kr4t05Graham: 1, it's a game.11:28
PriceChild!ohmy | Graham11:28
ubotuGraham: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:28
Kr4t05Second, what ubotu said.11:28
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Kr4t05Sanne: What version?11:29
Kr4t05(Or Kubuntu)11:29
Kr4t05of*11:29
Kr4t05><11:29
GrahamAs much as I could give a flying fuck what ubotu says... don't give me that family friendly crap.11:29
SanneKr4t05: I'm using dapper still11:29
PriceChildGraham, you either abide by our guidelines or leave :)11:29
SanneGraham: please11:29
PriceChildGraham, We need to keep this work safe and family friendly please :)11:29
GrahamAre you offended?11:29
Kr4t05Sanne: I keep gettings this: /media/cdrom0/setup.sh: 9: function: not found11:30
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n8k99Jucato ping11:30
Kr4t05Gr11:30
GrahamOffended, are you?11:30
Kr4t05Gr11:30
Kr4t05Ugh...11:30
n8k99Graham:  yes it is offensive11:30
GrahamHmmm?11:30
Kr4t05Graham: Now, you're being a troll.11:30
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GrahamAre you offended?11:30
Kr4t05Stoppit. kthnx.11:30
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PriceChildGraham, > pm please.11:30
GrahamIf I was a troll I'd post yiff all over here yelling furfags and pictures of my nob on 4chan11:31
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Kr4t05Graham: Sadly, I understood that phrase...11:31
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SanneKr4t05: I had bought the windows version a long time ago and so didn't install from the cd, so I don't know what your problem might be. But I can try to help you find out.11:31
sakabatouGuys how to recover erased data ?11:31
ArwenKr4t05, lol... 4chan is for perverts11:31
Kr4t05Sanne: That would be great.11:31
PriceChild!offtopic11:32
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!11:32
PriceChild!ohmy11:32
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:32
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Kr4t05lol11:32
Kr4t05nalioth: High five?11:32
Arwenhuh?11:32
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SanneKr4t05: please tell me exactly what you did that caused the error11:33
n8k99!kops11:33
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal11:33
gnomefreakn8k99: ?11:33
Kr4t05Sanne: $ sudo sh /media/cdrom0/setup.sh11:33
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Kr4t05Just that, nothing more.11:33
n8k99read back Graham comments11:33
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SanneKr4t05: what if you use: sudo sh /media/cdrom/setup.sh11:34
naliothn8k99: ?11:34
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gnomefreakn8k99: it was taken care of11:34
n8k99we had a trollish11:34
n8k99ok thanks11:34
Kr4t05Sanne: Well, I looked at the script itself... Let me pastebin the offending portion.11:34
SanneKr4t05: ok11:34
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basesystemhello, got a quick question..11:35
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Kr4t05Sanne: http://pastebin.ca/52022711:35
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basesystemanyone knowlegable to answer it? :-)11:35
SanneKr4t05: looking...11:35
Sanne!ask | basesystem11:35
basesystemi'm following this tutorial to get kubuntu running on dmraid: http://www.ubuntu-in.org/wiki/SATA_RAID_Howto11:35
ubotubasesystem: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:36
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SanneKr4t05: hmmm, that doesn't tell me much. If it's possible, I would like to look at the whole script.11:38
Kr4t05Sanne: http://pastebin.ca/520238 Done11:39
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SanneKr4t05: I'm just reading some instructions for installing D3 and it says there should be a loki installer on the cd called loki-installer-descent3.run. Do you have such a file?11:40
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Ace2016Hi all11:40
ubuntu_erm.. i'm basesystem.. I server-splut11:40
Kr4t05Sanne: Nada11:40
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SanneKr4t05: ok. I'm looking at the script now.11:40
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Kr4t05Geez... Now I know why Linux does have many gamers. :/11:41
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ubuntu_so.. anybody know what I need to install to get the system to boot?11:41
Zeelotdoes anyone know how to use thunderbird for hotmail accounts?11:41
Ace2016how do i install beryl, what repo is it in?  i looked here http://www.beryl-project.org/distros.php but no help, and i did a package search here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages  for unstable, no luck11:41
naliothZeelot: ask uncle google "hotpop"11:42
Kr4t05!beryl Ace201611:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about beryl ace2016 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:42
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Kr4t05Oops...11:42
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Kr4t05!beryl | Ace201611:42
ubotuAce2016: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:42
Ace2016thanks11:43
Ace2016wrong channel :(11:43
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Ace2016i have beryl in kubuntu already11:43
Kr4t05Ace2016: In Feisty, you should be able to just install via apt.11:43
Ace2016i need to find out how to install it in debian sid for my livecd11:43
Kr4t05oh11:43
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Arwenhey any ops here? what do you do when you're under an attack from proxied hosts?11:44
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PriceChildArwen, who, where?11:44
naliothArwen: can you be a bit more detailed?11:44
Zeelotnalioth: hotmail popper?11:44
ArwenPriceChild, nalioth, sorry, just my personal channel - some guy keeps coming back with different hostnames11:44
naliothZeelot: dunno what it is called, but it gets your POP mail and puts it into mbox format11:44
Ace2016Kr4t05: well the debian people said they don't even have packages11:44
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Zeelothotmail popper is not free though11:45
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Kr4t05Ace2016: You'll have to compilie it, most likeyly.11:45
SanneKr4t05: well, the error message doesn't come from the script, it must come from the system. Can you try to cd into the  /media/cdrom/ directory and there do: sudo sh ./setup.sh11:45
Grahampotatoes11:45
naliothZeelot: there are others similar11:45
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Ace2016Kr4t05: yea, hoping to avoid that11:45
Arwenhotmail popper?11:45
Ace2016Anyone know any countdown timer app?11:46
Zeelotnalioth:  well I'm asking if anyone knows of one that works11:46
ArwenAce2016, sleep11:46
Ace2016sleep?11:46
Ace2016no i mean like a nice flashy count down timer till birthdays and stuff11:46
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ArwenAce2016, oh, lol... sorry, no idea.11:46
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GrahamAce2016: kmail?11:47
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Ace2016Graham: how would that work?11:48
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GrahamIuno I thought it had a calander11:48
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Ace2016thats kontact11:49
Kr4t05Sanne: Any luck, yet?11:49
GrahamWell sorry...11:49
SanneKr4t05: well, the error message doesn't come from the script, it must come from the system. Can you try to cd into the  /media/cdrom/ directory and there do: sudo sh ./setup.sh11:49
Kr4t05Sanne: Yeah, I tried that. Same error.11:50
SeanTaterHow is this possible: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"  ?11:50
SeanTaterI just compiled a program with it a minute ago..11:50
Kr4t05Sanne: Maybe it's the fact that dash is the default CLI as of Edgy?11:50
Kr4t05As opposed to bash.11:50
Ace2016found it kdoomsday11:50
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Ace2016and i only have 49 hours of broadband left :(11:51
gianlucahi11:51
Kr4t05Sanne: That did it!11:51
SanneKr4t05: Aaah!! That may be. Hm. As you can't edit the script itself, you could change the symlink manually temporarily.11:51
gianlucaItalian?11:51
SanneKr4t05: ah, you're fast ;)11:51
Kr4t05Sanne: I executed with 'bash' instead of 'sh'11:51
gianlucaSOME ITALIAN?11:51
Kr4t05:)11:51
SeanTater!it > gianluca11:51
Ace2016bye all, going to make the most of it,  using precious bandwidth,11:51
gianlucaI need an italian11:52
SeanTatergianluca: go to #kubuntu-it -- I think11:52
SanneKr4t05: oh, that's an even better way! So, I didn't really help you, but I learned what to tell people with similar problems, so thanks :)11:52
gianlucaHow?11:52
SeanTatergianluca: type this in : /join #kubuntu-it11:52
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Kr4t05Sanne: I ran into a similar problem with the proprietary nvidia drivers on edgy. :)11:53
SanneKr4t05: good to knwo also. I read a bit about bash vs dash on launchpad and that there are lots of scripts with "bashisms" that would break with dash.11:53
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basesystem2oh well, nobody could help.. I'll just reboot and prey..12:03
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jacek_jest Polak?12:04
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athenaWTF?12:08
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AndehHey, whoever told me to go to the restricted drivers panel to install my ATI drivers, it says i dont need any12:09
Andehso they are already installed?12:09
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AndehCause if they are, they suck12:09
Andehlol12:09
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josnierhola12:10
bcasanovHola12:10
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Daisuke_IdoAndeh: ati and linux aren't friends12:10
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athenaATI and Windows aren't friends either o.O12:11
mhbhi folks, I'm having a bit of a problem. I'm trying to run X apps in a chrooted environment, but they refuse to access the X server even though I ran "xhost +" earlier...12:11
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AndehDaisuke_Ido: Woot.12:12
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Andehathena: I spent days finding drivers after a reinstall :D12:13
Andehwindows that isd12:13
Andehis*12:13
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athenameh, the only driver I need for Windows is display :-\12:13
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athenaall the rest are part of my install CD12:13
Andehlol12:13
fdovingmhb: might want to start an ssh server inside that chroot, and ssh in, with xforwarding enabled. then run x apps.12:14
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space_ninjais kde 4 finished?12:14
fdovingspace_ninja: no.12:14

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