/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/05/29/#ubuntu-mobile.txt

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(Mithrandir/#ubuntu-mobile) agoliveira: hiya; I started on hildon-desktop this morning. It's slowly getting there now.01:34
(Mithrandir/#ubuntu-mobile) agoliveira: also, your mce-dummy branch seems to not have any commits in it, do you have any idea what's up with that?01:34
agoliveiraMithrandir: I think I made a mistake with this one, I was about to ask you btw. I started it but I figured out later that there is a mce-dev in the gutsy repository already.01:35
(Mithrandir/#ubuntu-mobile) yes, there is01:36
agoliveiraMithrandir: They are actualloy the same. What to do in that case?01:36
(Mithrandir/#ubuntu-mobile) agoliveira: I'd fix up the branch so it's in a sane state, then just move on01:37
agoliveiraagoliveira: Fine. Thanks.01:37
agoliveiraMithrandir: Fine. Thanks.01:38
agoliveiraMithrandir:BTW, I'm working on hildom-fw.01:38
agoliveiraI mean fm.01:38
(Mithrandir/#ubuntu-mobile) you've seen the branch in LP?01:39
(Mithrandir/#ubuntu-mobile) also, we might be able to revert most of my hacks from it; seb's agreed to take the patch posted to the mailing list with the minimal set of changes we need for gtk01:39
agoliveiraMithrandir: Hmmm... now you got me. So should I jump it for now?01:40
(Mithrandir/#ubuntu-mobile) yes, just skip it for now01:42
(Mithrandir/#ubuntu-mobile) if you could grab osso-af-settings that'd be good01:42
agoliveiraMithrandir: Righto!01:42
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mdzagoliveira: I just synced in mce-dev from maemo directly, since it was trivial and didn't require modification02:31
mdzit's pretty much just two .h files02:32
agoliveiramdz: Yes, it's just that.02:32
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Mithrandiryay, hildon-help compiles now.03:09
agoliveiraMithrandir: I believe we can safelly ignore osso-af-utils, osso-af-startup and osso-app-killer for now. They are specific to booting and organize the Nokia devices. There is one dependency for osso-af-startup in hildon-application-framework but I'll deal with it when the time arrives as I guess I'll have to bypass, addapt or mock-up the app start procedure anyway.03:13
agoliveiraMithrandir: Cool :)03:14
Mithrandirmove them to ignore on the todo list, then?03:15
agoliveiraSure do.03:18
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Mithrandirok, libhildonhelp should really be good now.04:10
MithrandirI'll update the todo, then go home04:10
agoliveiraMithrandir: Nice. I'm checking out hildon-control-panel. It should be going to hildon-1 but it's not even into the trunk yet.04:13
Mithrandirok04:13
Mithrandirdid you get anywhere with osso-af-settings?04:14
agoliveiraIt compiled just the way it is. No changes required.04:16
Mithrandirah, you said.  Goodie04:16
MithrandirI'll get to it tomorrow.04:16
agoliveiraCool. Have a nice evening.04:17
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mdzMithrandir,adilson-lunch: do the intel guys ever come by the channel here04:34
mdz?04:34
Mithrandirmdz: I've seen them on-channel, but they don't speak much05:28
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adilsonmdz: They hang out more often over the ML. I don't remember anyone around here.05:42
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mdzMithrandir: did rusty send you his image builder yet?06:48
Mithrandirno.06:48
MithrandirI'll note it down and prod him about it.06:48
mdzthanks06:49
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edmondtlooks like a tight deadline for ubuntu mobile09:09
adilsonedmondt: Yes, it is but we believe that it's feasible.09:24
edmondtI would be great tho... support for smart phones, synchronization with evolution09:26
Mithrandirit won't be able to both sing, dance and make coffee at first go, but two out of three should be doable.09:27
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lucasrhei09:28
Mithrandirhiya lucas09:28
lucasrMithrandir, hei :-)09:29
seb128hey lucasr09:32
adilsonedmondt: Right now we want to create a common and stable base that allows applications to do the the stuff you're talking about to be built.09:33
adilsonlucasr: Oi Lucas.09:33
Mithrandirapparently, the eds-sync bits were just opened up from Nokia09:34
Mithrandirso we'd want to pull that in too09:34
lucasrMithrandir, cool09:36
lucasrMithrandir, very nice piece of software09:36
lucasradilson, oi!09:36
lucasrseb128, yo!09:36
Mithrandirand I had a chat with pvanhof earlier today, he seemed interested in getting modest or something tinymail-based into ubuntu mobile09:36
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lucasrMithrandir, I would try to use modest09:50
lucasrMithrandir, it will be already integrated with Hildon09:51
lucasrMithrandir, integrated = use Hildon09:51
Mithrandiryup09:51
Mithrandirthat was my thought too.09:51
lucasrMithrandir, let me know if you need any help with this. I can talk to Modest developers if needed09:52
lucasrMithrandir, they are only a few meters from me :-P09:52
Mithrandirgreat. :-)  It'll certainly be interesting once we have hildon-desktop up and running here.-09:52
Mithrandirs/-$//09:52
Mithrandiruntil we have a basic hildon UI, trying to get apps running is a bit insane.09:53
tkolucasr: btw, why is control panel trunk still not using hildon-1?09:56
lucasrtko, because the new code is not in trunk yet :-)09:56
lucasrtko, https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/branches/hildon-control-panel/refactoring/09:57
lucasrtko, I need to merge this thing :-P09:57
lucasrin trunk09:57
Mithrandirlucasr: are you a good person to feed our changes to the packaging?09:58
Mithrandiror should we talk to somebody else?09:58
lucasrMithrandir, depends on the package09:59
lucasrMithrandir, but if it simplifies to you, you can send me and I forward to the correct person09:59
lucasrMithrandir, or tko or fer09:59
lucasr:-)09:59
Mithrandirok10:00
Mithrandirdo you want it by email or is being hassled on IRC good enough?10:00
lucasrhmm, I can't access irc at work10:00
Mithrandirok10:00
Mithrandirso email then10:00
lucasrMithrandir, email me10:00
lucasrMithrandir, there's this firewall there10:00
lucasr:-/10:00
tkoI think the @nokia person in the maintainer field should be able to handle them.. or use bugzilla?10:01
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lucasrtko, yep10:01
lucasrtko, it's just that *maybe* the maintainer could possibly not be interested in ubuntu mobile stuff and just ignore it10:02
lucasr:-P10:02
Mithrandirlucasr: especially when it's fixes like "makes this compile on amd64".10:02
tkolucasr: true.. thus bugzilla :)10:02
lucasrtko, Mithrandir, and add us to CC maybe?10:02
Mithrandirok10:03
MithrandirI'm fine with more or less any workflow, but I'd like there to be a workflow which eases our work since we'll have less of a delta to maintain and gives you fixes you can apply easily.10:04
lucasrMithrandir, ok10:04
lucasrMithrandir, I guess things will get simpler when we move to gnome infra10:05
tkoI've been considering setting a git mirror of your bzr mirror of our svn for tracking :)10:05
tko(I already run git-svn on our svn)10:05
tkotoo bad git-bzr doesn't exist atm :-(10:05
lucasrok, gotta go10:05
Mithrandirtko: it's called "tailor"10:05
lucasrnight all!10:06
Mithrandirnight, Lucas10:06
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landleymdz: got your email. :)12:25
landleySo I've been pondering bootstrapping Ubuntu on non-x86 platforms for a while.12:26
landleyI spent a largeish chunk of last year making a bootstrapping environment thing (Firmware Linux), which cross compiles a minimal native build environment for various platforms, allowing you to build packages natively under an emulator (usually qemu).12:26
landleyI got it mostly to the point where I could then bootstrap a distro.12:27
landleyI was initially looking at gentoo, but most of the users I talked to wanted debian or ubuntu...12:27
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