[06:08] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: still around?
[09:56] <asac> hi!
[10:50] <asac> does the link in bug 88317 crash for anyone?
[10:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 88317 in firefox "firefox crash [@nsJSEnvironment::Init]  [@LocaleToUnicode]  [@nsViewManager::ForceUpdate]  ..." [High,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88317
[11:25] <hjmf> hi asac. It doesn't crash for me ^^
[11:26] <hjmf> same locale than the OP
[11:28] <gnomefreak> asac: how was your trip?
[11:30] <asac> yeah grewat
[11:30] <asac> unfortunately, the weather was bad :) ... so we couldn't go to the beach
[11:30] <asac> but was nice anyway
[11:30] <asac> hjmf: thanks
[11:30] <asac> i will reject it then :)
[11:31] <gnomefreak> asac: im testing in feisty atm to see if it crashes for me
[11:31] <asac> old reports without dupe should be closed :)
[11:31] <gnomefreak> im installing feistys version of ffox
[11:31] <asac> gnomefreak: cool
[11:32] <gnomefreak> asac: does -trunk us the new nss nspr packages?
[11:32] <gnomefreak> s/us/use
[11:32] <asac> gnomefreak: yes
[11:32] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[11:32] <asac> i made it work
[11:32] <asac> with system-nss et all
[11:32] <asac> al
[11:32] <gnomefreak> asac: might want to take a look at it
[11:32] <asac> why?
[11:33] <asac> whats the problem?
[11:33] <asac> at least on friday it build well :)
[11:33] <gnomefreak> asac: someone complained when installing it there was a problem overwriting one fo the old things that are in mspr
[11:33] <gnomefreak> but not sure if he screwed up or not he left before i could ask
[11:33] <asac> which versino?
[11:33] <asac> the old one didn't use that
[11:33] <gnomefreak> the latest
[11:33] <gnomefreak> i think
[11:34] <asac> gnomefreak: then don't bother ... can you install firefox-trunk?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> darkmage was the one having problems
[11:34] <asac> have you uploaded i386 build already?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> i havent tried yet ive been on other things. yes all is uploaded
[11:34] <asac> don't know darkmage
[11:34] <asac> :)
[11:34] <asac> k
[11:34] <asac> gnomefreak: did you use my orig.tar.gz for -trunk?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> yep
[11:35] <gnomefreak> he was building it with other options so he might have scred up
[11:35] <gnomefreak> screwed*
[11:36] <gnomefreak> i cant remeber what .so package it was but it was one that we had to remove from firefox2.0 in firefox-install file
[11:37] <gnomefreak> not crashing in feisty here either
[11:38] <asac> he build on his own?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> i couldnt find the ac_options in firefox-trunk.install or -install or whatever it is named
[11:38] <asac> ok ... thats not supported :)
[11:38] <gnomefreak> asac: yes
[11:38] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:38] <gnomefreak> during install it failed to overwrite something
[11:38] <asac> there are no ac_options in firefox-trunk.install ... in that file there are just the files that will be installed
[11:38] <asac> for him or for yxou?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> yeah i notinced
[11:38] <gnomefreak> him
[11:39] <asac> gnomefreak: i think he messed up
[11:39] <asac> ... at least if it built for you as well
[11:39] <gnomefreak> im leaning that way too
[11:39] <gnomefreak> it built fine here
[11:40] <gnomefreak> oh btw i think i found the file in iceape for the prefferences example pref("browser....) but it doesnt list the one i need am i supposed to add it to the all.js file :(
[11:41] <gnomefreak> trying to make use of the go button in the tool bar
[11:42] <gnomefreak> ubuntu-1.1.x/modules/libpref/src/init/all.js is the path and file i was looking in
[11:46] <asac> yeah right
[11:46] <asac> you have to use dpatch-edit-patch <newpatchname> ... then edit that file
[11:46] <asac> and use ctrl-d to exit dpatch shell ... which will create the patch for you
[11:46] <asac> gnomefreak: ^^^
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ok should i be cd'ed into top level or into /init/
[11:47] <gnomefreak> i am thinking like everyother patch be outside the source dir
[11:47] <asac> he?
[11:48] <asac> for dpatch-edit-patch you have to be in top-level i guess
[11:48] <asac> no ... dpatch-edit-patch will do the magic for you
[11:48] <asac> you just have to use it ... then edit ... then exit that shell
[11:49] <gnomefreak> ok ill try it i have no fear
[11:49] <gnomefreak> number of patch matter?
[11:49] <asac> yes ... look at the readme inside the patches dir
[11:50] <asac> that explains what numbers to use
[11:52] <gnomefreak> k
[11:52] <gnomefreak> brb brewing more coffee
[11:52] <asac> k
[11:52] <asac> i am already in my 2nd litre as well:)
[11:54] <asac> hjmf: what time do you think should bugs sit in mt-confirm before we reject them if they neither a dupe nor a testcase?
[11:55] <asac> hjmf: .... and can we automize this :)
[11:58] <hjmf> asac: a couple of months? let me do it ;)
[12:02] <asac> hjmf: hmm ok ... lets say 2+ month till it was reported ... and no testcase
[12:02] <asac> hjmf: how can we figure out that there is not testcase ?
[12:02] <asac> hjmf: do we need a tag?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> asac: there is no readme anywhere that has anything to do with patches :(
[12:05] <gnomefreak> there is however a 82_prefs.dpatch patch already
[12:05] <gnomefreak> and it is same file i am patching
[12:05] <hjmf> there should be a  mt-needtestcase
[12:05] <asac> gnomefreak: ok
[12:06] <hjmf> that's the only way
[12:06] <asac> gnomefreak: use that patch
[12:06] <asac> e.g. use dpatch-edit-patch 82_prefs
[12:06] <asac> oh
[12:06] <asac> gnomefreak: don't use that
[12:06] <gnomefreak> k
[12:06] <asac> use: dpatch-edit-patch 82_prefs_ubuntu
[12:06] <asac> gnomefreak: ok?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> k
[12:06] <asac> fine
[12:06] <gnomefreak> and add .dpatch to the name or will it do it for me
[12:07] <asac> hjmf: so we add to all that don't have a testcase ... mt-needtestcase?
[12:07] <asac> hjmf: maybe we should use the 'testcase' tag to tag bugs that have one?
[12:07] <hjmf> reject bugs with tag mt-confirm + mt-needtestcase + older 2m + No dups
[12:07] <hjmf> yes maybe mt-hastestcase in needsinfo state?
[12:08] <asac> hjmf: ok
[12:08] <gnomefreak> once we have testcase we need testers
[12:08] <asac> hjmf: mt-hastestcase is fine with me
[12:08] <hjmf> ok
[12:08] <asac> hjmf: can even be valid in confirm imo
[12:08] <asac> i mean to use that tag
[12:08] <asac> :)
[12:09] <asac> hjmf: actually i would like to do that only with crashes
[12:09] <asac> hjmf: can we do that?
[12:09] <asac> hjmf: i have fear to close valid "normal" behavioural bug reports that we just triaged badly
[12:09] <hjmf> we can issue a crontask for that if we are confident with the testcase tag
[12:09] <asac> hjmf: maybe we shjould really use mt-needstestcase
[12:09] <asac> to prevent such things from happening
[12:10] <asac> might be a bit more work (e.g. tag every crash mt-needtestcase
[12:10] <hjmf> not more work, that is pretty automatic
[12:10] <asac> hjmf: yes ... for new retraces :)
[12:10] <hjmf> yes
[12:11] <asac> hjmf: but how does auto-retracer detect that there is no testcase atm?
[12:11] <hjmf> no way, that has to do by hand :)
[12:11] <hjmf> unless it is able to read and understand the bug summary :-P
[12:12] <asac> hjmf: ok ... so maybe we shouldn't tag mt-needtestcase manually
[12:12] <asac> but instead make those bugs appear in bughelper or by some smart query
[12:12] <asac> so we can regularly review crashes for "maybe attached testcases" ?
[12:12] <asac> "hjmf: ok ... so maybe we shouldn't tag mt-needtestcase manually" -> automatically of course
[12:12] <hjmf> if we attach them first it is ok
[12:13] <asac> hjmf: then?
[12:13] <hjmf> I vote for a "has test case" tag
[12:13] <asac> hjmf: yeah
[12:13] <hjmf> or better as you say a "has test case" attachment
[12:13] <gnomefreak> hmmm thats awfully verbose :(
[12:13] <hjmf> that can't be deleted by error
[12:14] <hjmf> eg if some one deletes the 'has test case' tag a right bug might be rejected
[12:14] <gnomefreak> but what would mt-hastestcase do?
[12:15] <gnomefreak> if we push the tag to mt-needtester it moves the bug along
[12:15] <asac> hjmf: maybe we should not close automatically ... but tag something like "reject-candidate"
[12:15] <hjmf> but a 'empty file' named "has test case" attached can do the trick
[12:15] <asac> so we can manually process that list?
[12:15] <asac> hjmf: hmmm ... but we cannot remove them :)
[12:16] <asac> e.g. if the testcase is bad ... or someone made an error the bug will always have a testcase
[12:16] <hjmf> right
[12:16] <hjmf> asac: you are right, maybe "reject-candidate" it is safer for such automatic use
[12:17] <hjmf> however we still need a confident way to look for a test case :)
[12:17] <asac> ok ... lets think a bit more about this ... but using mt-reject-candidate appears to be ok
[12:18] <hjmf> to me too. Let's think a bit. I'll make a draft and tell you in the next days
[12:18] <asac> a draft in the wiki?
[12:18] <hjmf> the other parts are easy: date, mt-confirm tag, no dups
[12:18] <hjmf> asac: script
[12:18] <asac> ah
[12:18] <asac> ok
[12:18] <asac> yes go ahead :)
[12:19] <hjmf> k
[12:19] <asac> its not that "dangerous" to just do it
[12:19] <asac> because its just a tag :)
[12:19] <hjmf> indeed at first it might only return a list  of candidates (even safer) :)
[12:19] <hjmf> and less messy
[12:20] <asac> hehe ... right :)
[12:20] <asac> though i would not mind if somehow 200 bugs just disappear :)
[12:20] <hjmf> right :)
[12:20] <asac> anyway ... mt-confirm list in needs info is now below 100 again :)
[12:21] <hjmf> I've seen your early spam :)
[12:21] <asac> maybe i rejected too aggressively ... but i don't think so ... we just cannot push that amount of crashes without dupe upstream
[12:22] <hjmf> right ... and I can still search for dups while retracing looking for already rejected ones
[12:22] <hjmf> so it is not a problem at all
[12:22] <hjmf> to resque some one form rejected limbo
[12:22] <asac> hjmf: really? ... cool
[12:22] <asac> how can we bring those to attention? ... e.g. resurrection candidates
[12:22] <asac> ?
[12:23] <hjmf> don't worry for that, as I retrace bugs I open firefox to search for the new crash signature
[12:24] <hjmf> it is the in the same script I use to post the new retraces
[12:24] <hjmf> it is tricky, but does the trick for me
[12:26] <hjmf> OK! tonight when I'll be back at home I'll start with that mt-confirm script and meanwhile I'll think how to solve the 'has test case' stuff
[12:26] <gnomefreak> asac: i think i did it :) patch is in debian/patches  it didnt put it in 00list  im assuming i need to do that right?
[12:27] <asac> hjmf: thanks so much!
[12:27] <hjmf> asac: yw
[12:27] <asac> gnomefreak: did you exit the dpatch shell?
[12:27] <asac> gnomefreak: is there content in the new patch-file?
[12:27] <gnomefreak> yep it created it in patches
[12:27] <asac> ok ... then add it to the end of the list :)
[12:28] <gnomefreak> sweet. do you need me to post this patch before i add it in gutsys iceape. right now it is being added to mt build to test it
[12:29] <asac> gnomefreak: we have two bzr branches right?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> i think so
[12:29] <asac> gnomefreak: one is your private one the other ~mozillateam?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:29] <asac> just push it to yours
[12:29] <asac> i take a look and then you can merge it to ~mozillateam
[12:29] <gnomefreak> just push the full patches dir?
[12:29] <asac> are the branches in synch otherwise?
[12:30] <asac> gnomefreak: no ... you have to bzr add debian/patches/newpatchfilename.dpath
[12:30] <asac> then commit debian/patches/00list and that file
[12:30] <gnomefreak> k
[12:30] <asac> gnomefreak: just compare revisions
[12:30] <asac> you can look in launchpad
[12:30] <asac> if both have the same revno ... then probably they are in synch
[12:37] <gnomefreak> ok finished all my changes. now i have to bzr adddebian/patches/newpatchfilename.dpath?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> s/adddebian/add debian
[12:39] <asac> yes
[12:39] <gnomefreak> .dpath should be .dpatch?
[12:39] <asac> the you commit the new patch file and the modified list ... with a decent commet
[12:39] <asac> yes
[12:39] <gnomefreak> k
[12:39] <asac> comment
[12:39] <asac> ;)
[12:48] <gnomefreak> i think its doing it ill let you know when done
[12:49] <asac> gnomefreak: cool
[12:49] <gnomefreak> asac: btw the problem with trunk we were talking about was it failed to overwrite /path/to/libnssckbi.so
[12:50] <gnomefreak> its not showing changes on LP yet
[12:50] <gnomefreak> Launchpad could not mirror this branch 1 minutes ago.  The error was: Knit ...
[12:50] <gnomefreak> is the error on the page
[12:51] <gnomefreak> https://code.beta.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x
[12:51] <gnomefreak> i will ping LP guys after i get back from smoke
[12:52] <asac> the page shows changes
[12:52] <asac> though there is an error message as well
[12:52] <asac> #
[12:52] <asac> By John Vivirito <email address hidden> on 2007-04-24
[12:52] <asac> * debian/rules: don't try to sign libnss because its not build by iceape anymore
[12:52] <asac> gnomefreak: you have not yet synched rev 77
[12:53] <asac> from ~mozillateam branch
[12:53] <asac> probably you have to do that
[12:53] <asac> let me know if you have up to date ~gnomefreak branch ... i can do the synch to ~mozillateam
[12:53] <asac> e.g. four eyes :)
[12:57] <gnomefreak> how do i do that?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> where did you see that?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> bzr log doesnt show me that
[01:04] <gnomefreak> bzr log nor bzr diff doesnt show that for me :(
[01:07] <gnomefreak> should it be bzr status <mozillateam branch link>?
[01:10] <asac> WHAT DO YOU AwNT TO SEE?
[01:10] <asac> gnomefreak: what do you want to see?
[01:10] <asac> gnomefreak: you see that on ~mozillateam branch
[01:10] <asac> it has rev 77
[01:10] <asac> yours has 76
[01:10] <gnomefreak> the part that wasnt merged
[01:11] <asac> you can do a diff to the ~mozillateam brancgh
[01:11] <asac> or just look at the log
[01:11] <asac> ... or just try to merge
[01:11] <gnomefreak> mine is showing revno: 80
[01:11] <gnomefreak> committer: John Vivirito <gnomefreak@Gutsy>
[01:11] <gnomefreak> branch nick: ubuntu-1.1.x
[01:11] <gnomefreak> timestamp: Tue 2007-05-29 06:46:26 -0400
[01:11] <gnomefreak> message: * Updated accordingly.
[01:11] <asac> ah
[01:11] <asac> yeah ... then lp was not update
[01:11] <asac> try to merge from mozillateam
[01:11] <gnomefreak> how?
[01:11] <asac> like always
[01:12] <gnomefreak> bzr merge
[01:12] <asac> yes
[01:12] <gnomefreak> ok let me try
[01:12] <asac> bzr merge urltootherbranch
[01:13] <gnomefreak> than look to see what needs to be pushed?
[01:13] <asac> no ... just after you merged ... and you committed your changes
[01:13] <asac> just push up to your branch
[01:13] <asac> i will merge it into mozillteam branch
[01:13] <gnomefreak> nothing to do was what i got
[01:13] <asac> fine
[01:13] <asac> then you can push your changes up to your branch
[01:13] <asac> i will merge to mozillateam
[01:13] <gnomefreak> bzr merge http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x
[01:13] <gnomefreak> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x is permanently redirected to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x/
[01:14] <gnomefreak> Nothing to do.
[01:14] <asac> yes
[01:14] <asac> looks good
[01:14] <asac> what are the upstream urls you see in bzr info?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> ok cool but you cant merge from mine while that error is there can you?
[01:14] <asac> i can
[01:14] <asac> its just the web-interface that is broken
[01:14] <gnomefreak> ah
[01:14] <asac> that doesn't matter much
[01:15] <gnomefreak> running bzr info waiting for it to do something
[01:15] <gnomefreak> you want location URl or publish URl?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> or related
[01:16] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/feisty_builds/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x$ bzr info
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Location:
[01:16] <gnomefreak>   branch root: file:///home/gnomefreak/feisty_builds/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x/
[01:16] <gnomefreak> Related branches:
[01:16] <gnomefreak>       parent branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x/
[01:16] <gnomefreak>   publish to branch: sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Egnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x/
[01:16] <gnomefreak> thats what i got with other stuff under it but those are the only links i see
[01:19] <asac> yes looks good
[01:19] <asac> just push it
[01:19] <asac> just bzr push
[01:19] <asac> parent branch is where you merge from ... publish branch is where you push to
[01:19] <gnomefreak> ok im pushing
[01:21] <gnomefreak> No new revisions to push.
[01:23] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe you haven't committed your local changes?
[01:23] <asac> what does the last 2 log entries read?
[01:23] <asac> how do they read i mean :)
[01:23] <gnomefreak> i did from waht bzr log shows
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[01:24] <gnomefreak> revno: 80
[01:24] <gnomefreak> committer: John Vivirito <gnomefreak@Gutsy>
[01:24] <gnomefreak> branch nick: ubuntu-1.1.x
[01:24] <gnomefreak> timestamp: Tue 2007-05-29 06:46:26 -0400
[01:24] <gnomefreak> message:
[01:24] <gnomefreak>     * Updated accordingly.
[01:24] <gnomefreak> ------------------------------------------------------------
[01:24] <gnomefreak> revno: 79
[01:24] <gnomefreak> committer: John Vivirito <gnomefreak@Gutsy>
[01:24] <gnomefreak> branch nick: ubuntu-1.1.x
[01:24] <gnomefreak> timestamp: Tue 2007-05-29 06:43:45 -0400
[01:24] <gnomefreak> message:
[01:24] <gnomefreak>     * debian/patches/82_prefs_ubuntu.dpatch: debian/patches/82_prefs_ubuntu.dpa
[01:24] <gnomefreak> tch: Make use of the go button in
[01:24] <gnomefreak>       tool bar
[01:24] <gnomefreak> ------------------------------------------------------------
[01:24] <gnomefreak> revno: 78
[01:24] <gnomefreak> committer: John Vivirito <gnomefreak@Gutsy>
[01:24] <gnomefreak> branch nick: ubuntu-1.1.x
[01:24] <asac> what did you commit in revno 80 ?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> timestamp: Tue 2007-05-29 06:41:51 -0400
[01:24] <gnomefreak> message:
[01:24] <gnomefreak>     * Updated accordingly.
[01:25] <gnomefreak> last ones i commited today
[01:25] <asac> can you please name next time "what" you updated accordingly? changelog?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> it was either changelog or 00list
[01:25] <asac> yeah ... you should name it next time :)
[01:25] <asac> so its already pushed
[01:25] <asac> fine
[01:25] <gnomefreak> 80 was changelog
[01:26] <asac> yeah
[01:26] <asac> next time just name debian/changelog: updated accordingly
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[01:26] <asac> or just "updated changelog accordingly"
[01:26] <asac> or even better "updated changelog for modifications: revno: 79,78 ... blablabla
[01:27] <gnomefreak> 78 is the 00list
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ah i see
[01:27] <asac> yeah ... that is even more important :)
[01:27] <asac> anyway ... ok now
[01:27] <gnomefreak> so bzr is ok?
[01:27] <asac> gnomefreak: its not yet pushed
[01:28] <asac> i get nothing to to
[01:28] <asac> please push again
[01:28] <gnomefreak> thats a bzr/LP issue than no?
[01:28] <asac> no idea
[01:28] <asac> gnomefreak: can you ask?
[01:28] <asac> you sure that you cannot push to your branch?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> yeah ill see if i get answered
[01:28] <asac> maybe specify your branch url specifically
[01:28] <asac> in bzr push
[01:28] <gnomefreak> i pushed it already
[01:28] <asac> e.g. bzr push sftp://....
[01:29] <gnomefreak> ill push again
[01:29] <asac> if i branch from your branch i just get rev 74
[01:30] <gnomefreak> ill go for smoke and let you know what it says when i return unless its done now
[01:30] <asac> so some commits are missing
[01:30] <asac> ok
[01:30] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/feisty_builds/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x$ bzr push sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x
[01:30] <gnomefreak> No new revisions to push.
[01:30] <asac> and bzr info?
[01:30] <asac> gives you revno 80 ?
[01:30] <asac> hmm
[01:31] <asac> gnomefreak: please try to branch that to /tmp/ or something
[01:31] <asac> to see if you get the latest through sftp
[01:31] <gnomefreak> In the working tree:
[01:31] <gnomefreak>        133 unchanged
[01:31] <gnomefreak>          0 modified
[01:31] <gnomefreak>          0 added
[01:31] <gnomefreak>          0 removed
[01:31] <asac> which i cannot use because i cannot access your dir then
[01:31] <gnomefreak>          0 renamed
[01:31] <gnomefreak>         65 unknown
[01:31] <asac> gnomefreak: just what revision
[01:31] <gnomefreak>          2 ignored
[01:31] <asac> the rest is not important :)
[01:31] <asac> or paste to pastebin :)
[01:31] <gnomefreak> latest revision: Tue 2007-05-29 06:46:26 -0400
[01:31] <asac> gnomefreak: please cd /tmp/
[01:32] <asac> sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x
[01:32] <asac> # bzr branch sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x
[01:32] <asac> i mean
[01:32] <gnomefreak> bzr clone?
[01:32] <asac> gnomefreak: not the date ... the revision number
[01:32] <asac> bzr clone [01:32] <asac> choose whatever you like most
[01:32] <gnomefreak> so you want me to create another one to see if changes are therE?
[01:33] <asac> yes
[01:33] <asac> just in /tmp/
[01:33] <asac> nothing permanent
[01:33] <asac> if i branch your branch i just get 74 revisions
[01:33] <asac> lest see if you get 80 revisions
[01:33] <asac> if you branch through sftp
[01:33] <asac> e.g. do a fresh branch
[01:33] <gnomefreak> im trying
[01:33] <asac> k
[01:33] <gnomefreak> it will be a bit
[01:34] <asac> k
[01:41] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:41] <gnomefreak> a fucking traceback :(
[01:41] <asac> when branching?
[01:42] <asac> try again
[01:42] <asac> what did you run?
[01:42] <asac> command above?
[01:42] <asac> when you are in /tmp/ ?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/temp$ bzr clone sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x
[01:42] <gnomefreak> bzr: ERROR: bzrlib.errors.KnitCorrupt: Knit 7c/svn-v2%253a39742%40f4e3d8d1-d80b-0410-9133-bbc0d6b0e2e8-iceape%25252ftrunk-debian%25252fpatches%25252f38_kbsd.dpatch.knit corrupt: While reading {asac@jwsdot.com-20070424114836-6fr7vgqel4eh6qbl} got AssertionError(what does flush do?)
[01:42] <asac> he?
[01:42] <asac> are you in /tmp/ ?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> yes look at first line i gave :)
[01:43] <asac> is that dir clear?
[01:43] <gnomefreak> i made a temp dir
[01:43] <asac> or is there ubunt-1.1.x already in it?
[01:43] <asac> be sure that its not already there
[01:43] <gnomefreak> ubuntu- is there
[01:43] <gnomefreak> now it is
[01:43] <asac> remove it ... and try again :)
[01:44] <asac> that error looks ... kind of wierd
[01:44] <gnomefreak> it wasnt before since i had just made the dir
[01:44] <asac> hmm
[01:44] <asac> maybe try again?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> k
[01:44] <asac> if it happens again ... then #bzr people might be the right way to go
[01:44] <asac> i will never go to that channel again though :)
[01:45] <gnomefreak> thats odd
[01:45] <asac> works now?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> not sure its not done
[01:46] <asac> k
[01:46] <gnomefreak> slow connection remember ;)
[01:46] <asac> yeah :)
[01:47] <gnomefreak> dealing with freenode issues now too
[01:47] <asac> freenode? splitting away?
[01:47] <gnomefreak> im not +u anymore and i need to be
[01:47] <asac> +u ?
[01:47] <asac> i have +ei
[01:47] <gnomefreak> join more than 20 channels
[01:47] <asac> which is just identified
[01:47] <asac> no :)
[01:48] <asac> i am in 15 or so
[01:48] <asac> thats enough :)
[01:48] <gnomefreak> +u allows you to do that
[01:48] <asac> ah
[01:48] <asac> hmm ... never had a problem
[01:48] <asac> +i should as well
[01:48] <gnomefreak> freenode restricts you to 20 channels
[01:48] <asac> as you are identified
[01:48] <asac> really?
[01:48] <asac> hmm
[01:48] <gnomefreak> yes
[01:48] <asac> i don't like freenode
[01:48] <asac> actually debian-devel moved to oftc at some point
[01:48] <gnomefreak> you have to apply/ask for a +u to get in more
[01:48] <asac> because of the freenode wierdness
[01:49] <gnomefreak> yep i blame them too ;)
[01:50] <asac> why do they restrict to 20 channels? load issues?
[01:50] <asac> or anti-troll measures?
[01:50] <asac> makes no sense imo
[01:51] <gnomefreak> not sure
[01:52] <gnomefreak> still same traceback
[01:52] <gnomefreak> once i get this figured out ill join #bzr but as it stands i cant join there
[01:56] <gnomefreak> ok i asked im not really sure ill get an answer they tend to hate to help people in there
[02:05] <gnomefreak> well they remember the error. he stated: there's at least a chance its some kind of bzr-svn  bug
[02:05] <gnomefreak> a chance doesnt make me feel any better
[02:08] <asac> tse
[02:08] <asac> what a bad answer
[02:08] <asac> as we did not synch bzr with svn
[02:09] <asac> recently
[02:09] <asac> and it worked
[02:11] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[02:12] <gnomefreak> i think bug in gutsy caused this im gonna try something
[02:15] <gnomefreak> well i found out why i got error during last push but not helpfull to anything atm
[02:17] <gnomefreak> someone changed the UI on my pastebin :) it looks ummmm pretty?
[02:17] <gnomefreak> in a weird sence
[02:17] <gnomefreak> sense
[02:19] <gnomefreak> asac: can you check if they are in commit and not pushed? if so can you try to push?
[02:19] <asac> maybe gutsy bzr is broken
[02:19] <asac> use feisty version then
[02:19] <gnomefreak> im thinking about it
[02:19] <asac> gnomefreak: i can't get them
[02:19] <asac> actually i think you merged your local iceape from svn right?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> ok didnt think so thought i would ask :)
[02:19] <asac> e.g. updated from debian branch?
[02:19] <gnomefreak> i dont remember
[02:19] <asac> did you do that?
[02:20] <gnomefreak> yes in the begining
[02:20] <asac> do you see any changelog entries from mike hommey?
[02:20] <asac> e.g. within the last 8 commits or something
[02:21] <gnomefreak> that was odd
[02:22] <asac> gnomefreak: did you ever merge from svn to your (ubunt-1.1.x) branch?
[02:22] <gnomefreak> if you bzr log there are entries from someone i dont know so im checking changelog in package but no mike in bzr log
[02:22] <asac> that is wrong
[02:22] <asac> we have a debian-1.1.x branch for that
[02:22] <asac> the we merge ubuntu-1.1.x from debian-1.1.x ... and not directly from svn
[02:22] <gnomefreak> asac: i dont remember i know i used svn to grab debian stuff but cant remember (im gonna say i doubt it
[02:22] <asac> gnomefreak: what name/email has the one you don't know?
[02:23] <asac> gnomefreak: i bet you did
[02:23] <asac> gnomefreak: probably you have to start over and apply your patches one by one
[02:23] <gnomefreak> revno: 60
[02:23] <gnomefreak> committer: glandium
[02:23] <gnomefreak> timestamp: Sat 2007-04-21 12:17:00 +0000
[02:23] <gnomefreak> message:
[02:23] <gnomefreak>   * debian/control, debian/rules: Removed dummy packages for transition from
[02:23] <gnomefreak>     mozilla.
[02:23] <asac> yes thats mike
[02:23] <gnomefreak>   * debian/*mozilla*: Removed.
[02:23] <asac> you merged from svn
[02:23] <asac> which is wrong
[02:23] <gnomefreak> ah damn
[02:23] <asac> you should have merged to debian-1.1.x
[02:23] <asac> the merge from debian-1.1.x to ubuntu-1.1.x
[02:23] <asac> :)
[02:23] <asac> its not a big problem
[02:23] <gnomefreak> i didnt see a debian one
[02:24] <asac> you should be able to apply your patches one by one
[02:24] <asac> isn't there?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> i never saw one
[02:24] <asac> https://code.launchpad.net/iceape/
[02:24] <gnomefreak> if there is its a secret
[02:24] <asac> no
[02:24] <asac> there never was a secret
[02:25] <gnomefreak> there is i dont have that under codes in LP
[02:25] <asac> gnomefreak: beacuse its a mozillateam branch?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> no i have mt branches in mine
[02:25] <asac> gnomefreak: ok i do that for you know
[02:25] <gnomefreak> https://code.beta.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/
[02:26] <asac> gnomefreak: you probably subscribed manually?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> i can upload to it
[02:26] <asac> or once you committed to them they pop up
[02:26] <gnomefreak> no i havent yet
[02:26] <gnomefreak> i was just about to do that
[02:26] <asac> ok debian-1.1.x is up to date
[02:26] <gnomefreak> why is this an issue now and not before
[02:26] <asac> i now pull things over to mozillateam ubuntu-1.1.x branch
[02:27] <asac> from where you should ideally branch your private branch
[02:27] <asac> its not an issue ... *you* claim that its an issue
[02:27] <gnomefreak> so when your done i merge?
[02:27] <asac> e.g. that its a secret because the branch is not in your code list
[02:27] <asac> gnomefreak: i doubt it
[02:27] <gnomefreak> asac: the errors im getting are they related to this?
[02:27] <asac> i think you have to branch again ... and then merge your checkins over it
[02:28] <asac> gnomefreak: the error is related because you pulled in changes from svn
[02:28] <asac> gnomefreak: which is not the right parent branch
[02:28] <asac> gnomefreak: for you
[02:28] <gnomefreak> ah
[02:29] <gnomefreak> when your done what am i gonna do? recreate a branch?
[02:29] <asac> ok gnomefreak ... just branch the ~mozillateam ubuntu-1.1.x branch again (keep yuor current branch somewhere)
[02:29] <gnomefreak> ok so clone the mozillateam one?
[02:29] <asac> the you merge in your checkins from the old branch
[02:29] <asac> gnomefreak: yes
[02:29] <asac> gnomefreak: 1st clone mozilla team ubuntu-1.1.x
[02:29] <gnomefreak> ok ill start there
[02:29] <asac> gnomefreak: 2nd merge revisions from your old branch
[02:30] <asac> e.g. bzr merge -r77..78 /path/to/old/broken/branch
[02:30] <asac> where 77 is the commit you want on your fresh checkout
[02:30] <asac> look with bzr log in your broken branch which checkins you want
[02:31] <asac> and which are obsolete
[02:31] <asac> gnomefreak: ok?
[02:31] <gnomefreak> so just merge 77 78 and 79?
[02:31] <asac> i have no idea ... its your decision to decide what revisions you need
[02:32] <asac> but use 77..78  if you want to merge just revision77
[02:32] <asac> if you want to merge revision 78
[02:32] <asac> use 78..79
[02:32] <asac> you get it?
[02:32] <gnomefreak> i think os
[02:32] <gnomefreak> so
[02:32] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe you have luck and cen improve the checkin commments
[02:32] <asac> by this chance :)
[02:33] <asac> e.g. add info based on what you changed "accordingly" :)
[02:37] <gnomefreak> ok so im merging from my branch to mozillateam branch the changes i made today
[02:39] <gnomefreak> what do i do after i merge to mozillateam branch is there a way to merge mozillateam branch to fix mine?
[02:40] <asac> gnomefreak: no
[02:40] <asac> you branch your private branch from mozillateam
[02:40] <asac> apply your changes
[02:40] <asac> then push to your private branch
[02:41] <asac> you can use --override option or somthing to override your broken archive
[02:41] <asac> look bzr help merge
[02:41] <asac> aeh
[02:41] <asac> bzr help push
[02:41] <asac> to see the options
[02:53] <gnomefreak> lol bzr merge --help doesnt show an --override option but i know there is one
[02:55] <gnomefreak> bzr merge --overwrite  /path/to/broken/branch? or would i use sftp: link for broken branch?
[02:56] <gnomefreak> oh bar push --overwrite sftp:link
[02:56] <gnomefreak> bzr even
[02:57] <gnomefreak> lets see if bzr push --overwrite sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x  works
[02:57] <gnomefreak> yay it pushed 80 revisions
[02:58] <gnomefreak> now i pull or remove than clone over again?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> All changes applied successfully.
[03:05] <gnomefreak> Now on revision 80
[03:05] <gnomefreak> that mean pull took care of everything?
[03:07] <gnomefreak> bzr log still shows mike :(
[03:20] <gnomefreak> asac: something went wrong i still cant clone from my branch
[03:33] <asac> gnomefreak: you messed up :)
[03:33] <gnomefreak> what did i do wrong?
[03:33] <asac> did you branch from mozillateam branch and applied your changes?
[03:33] <asac> apparently not
[03:33] <asac> or did you?
[03:33] <asac> e.g. with merge -r 77..78 and so on?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> i did that
[03:34] <gnomefreak> mozillateam branch is good
[03:34] <gnomefreak> they all applied and i wrote better discriptions
[03:34] <asac> gnomefreak: fine
[03:34] <asac> then push the mozillateam branch up to your private branch
[03:34] <asac> did you do that?
[03:34] <gnomefreak> i tried to
[03:34] <asac> what happened?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> bzr push --overwrite
[03:35] <gnomefreak> sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x
[03:35] <gnomefreak> 08:57 <      gnomefreak > yay it pushed 80 revisions
[03:35] <gnomefreak> wait a sec
[03:36] <gnomefreak> trying again with bzr push --overwrite sftp:link
[03:37] <gnomefreak> to my broken branch
[03:37] <asac> you probably pushed to mozillateam
[03:37] <gnomefreak> pushing again
[03:38] <gnomefreak> gnomefreak@Gutsy:~/temp/ubuntu-1.1.x$ bzr push --overwrite sftp://gnomefreak@bazaar.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x
[03:38] <gnomefreak> No new revisions to push.
[03:38] <asac> your local branch has not 80 revisions?
[03:38] <asac> has now
[03:38] <gnomefreak> not that i see on LP
[03:39] <asac> i asked for *local* not LP
[03:39] <gnomefreak> but bzr log always showed 80 after i commited my changes
[03:39] <asac> gnomefreak: your branch has problems ... launchpad fails to sync it
[03:40] <gnomefreak> i dont have a local of mine all i have is the mozilla one and it has 80 afaik
[03:40] <asac> yes the mozillateam branch is the *local*
[03:40] <gnomefreak> yes the mozilla one has 80 locally
[03:40] <asac> since you push it to gnomefreak it should be
[03:40] <asac> ok
[03:40] <asac> but it isn't
[03:40] <gnomefreak> its not going there though
[03:40] <asac> so how many revisions has temp/ubuntu-1.1.x ?
[03:40] <asac> 80
[03:40] <asac> ?
[03:40] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:41] <gnomefreak> that is mozillabranch
[03:41] <asac> gnomefreak: you can sftp into that sftp directory with some client
[03:41] <asac> maybe delete your ubuntu-1.1.x branch by hand
[03:42] <asac> with an sftp client
[03:42] <asac> dunno if nautilus works
[03:42] <asac> but i think so
[03:42] <gnomefreak> yes bzr wants me to assign it to +junk
[03:42] <asac> assign  to junk?
[03:42] <asac> what does it display?
[03:42] <asac> when does bzr tell you that?
[03:42] <gnomefreak> they just did
[03:43] <gnomefreak> 09:40 <        mwhudson > but it's probably better for us if you reassign it
[03:43] <gnomefreak>                           to the +junk project
[03:43] <gnomefreak> 09:41 <        mwhudson > which you should be able to do from
[03:43] <gnomefreak>           https://code.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/iceape/ubuntu-1.1.x/+edit
[03:43] <asac> gnomefreak: good ... then reassign it
[03:43] <asac> and when thats done push your branch again
[03:43] <asac> ok?
[03:45] <asac> gnomefreak: how up to date is feisty tbird 2.0 on i386?
[03:45] <asac> is it the same as the amd64 build?
[03:45] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:45] <gnomefreak> last week was last build
[03:46] <gnomefreak> when you uploaded source i grabbed it and built it
[03:46] <asac> hmm
[03:46] <asac> ok
[03:46] <gnomefreak> theres is 10 pages of projects under search word junk :(
[03:47] <asac> gnomefreak: thats no problem
[03:47] <asac> its *trash*
[03:47] <asac> just do it
[03:48] <asac> gnomefreak: why are menu icons missing for tbird ... are they missing in gutsy as well?
[03:48] <asac> tbird 2.0 in preview archive i mean
[03:48] <gnomefreak> menu icons?
[03:48] <asac> (feisty)
[03:48] <asac> yes
[03:48] <asac> tbird menu icon
[03:48] <gnomefreak> i have it here in gutsy
[03:48] <asac> appears to be missing if you install your i386 package
[03:49] <gnomefreak> asac: i didnt change anything on it and havent had time to test it
[03:49] <asac> gnomefreak: so it i386 package is not the same version that is in gutsy
[03:49] <asac> gnomefreak: ok
[03:49] <asac> gnomefreak: when did i build tbird 2.0 for feisty archive?
[03:49] <gnomefreak> asac: i just used the sources you uploaded
[03:49] <asac> j
[03:49] <asac> if you ever boot into feisty, please test if they really miss
[03:50] <asac> i will test now on amd64
[03:50] <gnomefreak> you uploaded the sources last week what day, did you build it for 64 i dont have a clue
[03:52] <asac> installing tbird 2.0 on my main system now to see it
[03:52] <asac> on amd64 its there
[03:52] <asac> please test it asap
[03:53] <gnomefreak> as soon as i get this done
[03:58] <asac> k ... don't need to just wonder why our builds diverged
[04:00] <gnomefreak> booting laptop as we speak but its beeping at me
[04:01] <gnomefreak> ok no more beeping
[04:01] <gnomefreak> looks like branch is gone ;)
[04:04] <asac> gnomefreak: thats the idea, right?
[04:04] <asac> now you can push your 80 revision branch
[04:04] <asac> and hopefully it works
[04:06] <gnomefreak> i hope so im pushing the mozillabranch since i commited and pushed the changes
[04:07] <gnomefreak> laptop is very slow but ill be working on it to test tbird
[04:13] <gnomefreak> that was odd
[04:17] <ubuntu_laptop> ok lets see if i can do this
[04:17] <asac> :)
[04:17] <ubuntu_laptop> !moztest
[04:17] <ubotu> The Mozilla-testing repos can be found at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives. Please remember these are testing repos, the packages in these repos are not stable and may break things on your system. Use with caution. Please report bugs found from these packages to: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PreviewArchives/Bugs.
[04:19] <ubuntu_laptop> what is latest version number for tbird asac ?
[04:19] <asac> dunno
[04:19] <asac> doesn't matter :)
[04:19] <asac> compare what is in i386 to what is in amd64 repo
[04:20] <asac> ubuntu_laptop: test with latest from preview feisty
[04:21] <ubuntu_laptop> i need it since its a lower version than whats in there show and policy are not showing it ill look it up
[04:25] <ubuntu_laptop> something is fucked up. i cant install it
[04:26] <ubuntu_laptop> ok im installing a lower version but highest in archive than i will try to install the new package but i dont think it will happen
[04:35] <gnomefreak> ok fixing tbird issue and i pushed wrong branch so redoing that
[04:44] <asac> gnomefreak: maybe use latest from bzr
[04:44] <asac> gnomefreak: or did the tbird issue resolve?
[04:45] <gnomefreak> im working on it
[04:45] <gnomefreak> its starting to piss me off bad
[04:46] <asac> you already know what the issue is?
[04:46] <ubuntu_laptop> thunderbird-locale-en-gb is giving me issues
[04:48] <ubuntu_laptop> yes the problem is conflicts due to the versioning used on latest tbird
[04:48] <ubuntu_laptop> i dont know if im gonna beable to fix it but im working on it
[04:49] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: you here?
[04:49] <AlexLatchford> yep
[04:49] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: what version of tbird are you using in feisty?
[04:49] <AlexLatchford> 2.0
[04:49] <AlexLatchford> from your rep
[04:50] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: does it have menu icons?
[04:50] <AlexLatchford> erm yeah
[04:50] <gnomefreak> asac: ^^^
[04:50] <AlexLatchford> As in the drop menu or as in the big icons
[04:50] <gnomefreak> AlexLatchford: can you apt-cache policy thunderbird please
[04:50] <gnomefreak> the accessories i believe
[04:51] <AlexLatchford> thunderbird:
[04:51] <AlexLatchford>   Installed: 2.0.0.0-1ubuntu0.mt1
[04:51] <AlexLatchford>   Candidate: 2.0.0.0-1ubuntu0.mt1
[04:51] <AlexLatchford>   Version table:
[04:51] <AlexLatchford>  *** 2.0.0.0-1ubuntu0.mt1 0
[04:51] <AlexLatchford>         500 http://gnomefreak.youmortals.com feisty/main Packages
[04:51] <AlexLatchford>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[04:51] <gnomefreak> ther eis a newer version of it in repos but you would have to downgrade it
[04:51] <AlexLatchford> erm okay
[04:52] <gnomefreak> asac: does version matter?
[04:52] <AlexLatchford> version number?
[04:52] <gnomefreak> thunderbird_2.0.0.0-0ubuntu3~.mt1  but you might not have to
[04:53] <gnomefreak> lets wait and see what he says about the version
[04:53] <AlexLatchford> cool cool
[04:53] <AlexLatchford> give me a buzz.. am messing about with AJAX, a real pain in the ass
[04:53] <gnomefreak> ok ty
[04:56] <AlexLatchford> ouch
[04:57] <gnomefreak> well it pushed lets see if clone works :)
[04:59] <gnomefreak> asac: yes the newset version has icon in applications>internet menu
[05:01] <asac> gnomefreak: what do you mean by "newest version" ?
[05:01] <asac> did you forget to remove the old one?
[05:01] <asac> (and it had higher version?)
[05:01] <gnomefreak> thunderbird_2.0.0.0-0ubuntu3~.mt1
[05:01] <gnomefreak> that is lower than other version we had. you said to use it anyway
[05:10] <asac> yes
[05:10] <asac> gnomefreak: you should have removed the old bins though
[05:11] <asac> which yuo didn't
[05:11] <asac> gnomefreak: please do so asap
[05:11] <gnomefreak> still wont upgrade to it
[05:11] <asac> of course not
[05:11] <asac> you have to remove it first
[05:11] <asac> if you ended up in the bad version
[05:11] <gnomefreak> ill get there let me get what im doing done
[05:11] <asac> k
[05:11] <asac> let me know if you removed the .debs for bad vertsion
[05:11] <asac> and regen Packages
[05:12] <gnomefreak> this wont build now
[05:12] <asac> what?
[05:12] <gnomefreak> iceape
[05:12] <gnomefreak> oh wait i know
[05:14] <asac> :)
[05:21] <ubuntu_laptop> Host 'Feisty-Laptop', running Linux 2.6.20-16-generic - Cpu0: Mobile Pentium II 299 MHz; Up: 2 min; Users: 2; Load: 2.69; Free: [Mem: 23/313 Mio]  [Swap: 918/918 Mio]  [/: 32431/36653 Mio] ; Vpenis: 23.4 cm;
[05:22] <ubuntu_laptop> yeah it worked
[05:22] <asac> what?
[05:22] <ubuntu_laptop> kernel upgrade
[05:22] <asac> k
[05:22] <asac> you can use uname -a as well :)
[05:22] <gnomefreak> lots of issues with -16 i heard
[05:22] <asac> no idea ... i never have issues :)
[05:22] <gnomefreak> true
[05:22] <gnomefreak> me neither
[05:23] <asac> i am not a hardware addict ... so i only have basic stuff that just works
[05:24] <gnomefreak> me too
[05:24] <gnomefreak> if patch fails to apply im going away for a while
[05:25] <gnomefreak> 10_components was failing but i think i figured it out
[05:36] <gnomefreak> asac: you havent uploaded anything today right?
[05:36] <asac> y
[05:36] <gnomefreak> to our repo?
[05:37] <gnomefreak> so i know if i need to regen any of the other things other than release and 386 packages
[05:39] <asac> no ... i didn't upload
[05:39] <asac> if i do i tell you :)
[05:39] <gnomefreak> repo is fixed than
[05:39] <gnomefreak> :)
[05:40] <gnomefreak> iceape is building an now im happy i can go eat lunch
[06:08] <asac> gnomefreak: good appetite
[06:08] <asac> gnomefreak: thanks for the repo fix
[08:23] <Admiral_Chicago> hey the JenFraggle
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> afternoon everone.
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: so you are closing crashes that aren't duplicates...
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> or rather reproduceable
[09:16] <asac> if we haven't seen any dupes ... yes
[09:16] <Admiral_Chicago> okay good,
[09:16] <asac> for some time
[09:16] <asac> we are automizing this now :)
[09:17] <asac> we will set something like mt-reject-candidate
[09:17] <asac> on bugs that have no testcase and no dupes
[09:17] <asac> and are older than 2 month or so
[09:17] <Admiral_Chicago> yes, i'll try to do a bughelper query of bugs by duplicae
[09:18] <asac> what is the current state of bughelper info files?
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> Jen is working on them, we have added a few which is why i asked you what you were doing
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> a few clues*
[09:20] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm planning our workflow to be adding clues based on how many duplicates
[09:23] <asac> yes thats a good idea
[09:23] <asac> can we sort by dupe count?
[09:24] <asac> or do we XML post processing?
[09:24] <asac> to setup task lists?
[09:24] <gnomefreak> why not just close them why another tag?
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i asked in -bugs. I'd like to list by highest number of duplicates in wiki or something.
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> I'm not sure if we can sort them post-seach in bughelper...
[09:28] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: if XML output channel includes dupe info we can post-process them using xslt
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> asac: what is xslt?
[09:33] <asac> a language to flexibily transform xml to xml, html or whatever you want
[09:33] <asac> you can use xpath et al
[09:33] <asac> just google
[09:33] <asac> pretty decent xml processing technologie
[09:33] <asac> THE standard to transform xml
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i think bughelper now uses xpath doesn't it?
[09:33] <asac> yes to select something
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> okay i may have to research that
[09:34] <asac> xslt allows you to match and out xml
[09:34] <asac> match and output that is
[09:34] <asac> xpath just allows to match
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> oh okay cool
[09:34] <asac> xpath is an auxiliary tech developed as kind of sub-standard of xslt
[09:35] <asac> its specified by w3c
[09:35] <asac> Admiral_Chicago: http://www.w3.org/TR/xslt
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> ah from W3C..i see
[09:37] <Admiral_Chicago> bbiab
[09:41] <gnomefreak> @schedule
[09:41] <gnomefreak> damnit
[09:41] <ubotu> Schedule for Etc/UTC: 29 May 21:00: Community Council | 30 May 12:00: Edubuntu | 30 May 20:00: Xubuntu Developers | 31 May 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 31 May 21:00: Kubuntu Developers | 05 Jun 19:00: Technical Board
[09:41] <gnomefreak> @schedule new_york
[09:41] <ubotu> Schedule for America/New_York: 29 May 17:00: Community Council | 30 May 08:00: Edubuntu | 30 May 16:00: Xubuntu Developers | 31 May 12:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 31 May 17:00: Kubuntu Developers | 05 Jun 15:00: Technical Board
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> @schedule chicago
[09:52] <ubotu> Schedule for America/Chicago: 29 May 16:00: Community Council | 30 May 07:00: Edubuntu | 30 May 15:00: Xubuntu Developers | 31 May 11:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 31 May 16:00: Kubuntu Developers | 05 Jun 14:00: Technical Board
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i might need to go to a CC meeting...i haven't been to one in a while
[10:02] <asac> @schedule berlin
[10:02] <ubotu> Schedule for Europe/Berlin: 29 May 23:00: Community Council | 30 May 14:00: Edubuntu | 30 May 22:00: Xubuntu Developers | 31 May 18:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 31 May 23:00: Kubuntu Developers | 05 Jun 21:00: Technical Board
[10:02] <asac> 1h left
[10:46] <gnomefreak> its gonna be a fairly long meeting
[10:46] <gnomefreak> willing to bet 3+ hours
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> i only like 2 or 3 people for membership
[10:48] <Admiral_Chicago> imho, its gotten far too lax...
[10:49] <gnomefreak> tmt and bdmurry are about it IMHO but i havent studied the list
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> there is also that woman...I can't remember her name so i have to use the title "woman"
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> but she does a lot of work on the ubuntu-women project iirc
[10:52] <gnomefreak> pleia
[10:52] <gnomefreak> i didnt see her in the list
[10:53] <Admiral_Chicago> gnomefreak: thats who i was referencin
[10:58] <gnomefreak> repo should be back up i did a little more cleaning and uploaded new iceape