[12:01] <jawee> ikonia: And everything was going fine
[12:01] <ikonia> jawee: more so for someone who has been using linux as root for years
[12:01] <n2diy> jawee: sudo modprobe....
[12:01] <Pollywog> is it possible to nondestructively move an ext3 partition so that the free space following it is in front?
[12:01] <jrib> kerik: ls /usr/lib/nautilus-sendto/plugins/    lists some files?
[12:01] <melman101> I instaleld the newest kernel, and now my sd card is close to working. when i put in a card i get a /dev/mmcblk0 but it still won't mount (mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt/sdcard) It's a Ricoh R5C822 SD Card Reader built into a laptop (Dell D420). Any suggestions? I plugged in my USB SD card reader and it mounted automagically.
[12:01] <Pollywog> parted does not seem to move ext only resize
[12:01] <jawee> Oh, sorry.
[12:01] <jawee> With root I get: FATAL: Module ndiswapper not found.
[12:01] <Luke> How do I find my harddrives UUID?
[12:02] <ikonia> jawee: you should not be root
[12:02] <Pollywog> it can move vfat
[12:02] <ikonia> jawee: as I've told you on many occasions
[12:02] <Pollywog> not ext3
[12:02] <jawee> ikonia: I tried doing it with root and without...
[12:02] <Pollywog> I guess this will require a reinstall eh fellas?
[12:02] <kerik> jrib, lists 4 files...all ending on .so
[12:02] <n2diy> jawee:  it might be related to this: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg333295.html
[12:03] <jawee> ikonia: Honestly I was on an Ubuntu derivative earlier and their channel was dead so I asked here. I'm on Ubuntu now
[12:03] <Pollywog> my / partition has run out of space and I need to get some from /home
[12:03] <jrib> kerik: ok, in gaim, tools -> plugins .  Is Nautilus Integration enabled?
[12:03] <Luke> Does anyone know how do I find my harddrive's UUID?
[12:03] <ikonia> jawee: jawee you've lied to me too many times. Sorry
[12:03] <jrib> !uuid > Luke (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:03] <ikonia> Luke:  blkid
[12:03] <Pollywog> Luke is it not in fstab?
[12:03] <Horscht> I just installed the latest kernel update, and now in the "my computer" menu, I have an additional CD drive, but there's only one in my laptop.
[12:03] <jawee> ikonia: What besides that?
[12:03] <Horscht> How would I go about removing it?
[12:04] <ikonia> jawee: you've lied to me abou that
[12:04] <jawee> ikonia: I've used nothing but Linux for three ears
[12:04] <kerik> jrib, it was there but wasn't winged...
[12:04] <Luke> ikonia: thanks mate!
[12:04] <Pollywog> three ears?
[12:04] <kerik> jrib, it is now however..
[12:04] <ikonia> jawee: then you should be able to debug this easy
[12:04] <usr_rob> gnomefreak: i've removed totem-mozilla, just have to open the file in totem-xine instead, so far so good
[12:04] <jrib> kerik: k, now restart nautilus with:  killall nautilus
[12:04] <kerik> jrib, you're a freaking genious!
[12:04] <jawee> ikonia: I used SUSE for years which taught me little
[12:04] <jawee> ikonia: I've just begin to explore more advanced things
[12:04] <kerik> jrib, didn't even have to restart I think...I can right click and send to now :)
[12:04] <ikonia> jawee: sorry you mess me around too much
[12:05] <jrib> kerik: great, /usr/share/doc/nautilus-sendto/README.Debian is what helped btw
[12:05] <defcon_> where do I set programs to autostart in ubuntu and how do I make it so i dont have to enter a password each time
[12:05] <jrib> !startup > defcon_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:05] <kerik> jrib, thanks alot!
[12:05] <jrib> defcon_: to disable the password, go to system > administration > login window
[12:06] <kerik> jrib, just wonder now why a IM app can have effect on that...but guess that's the mystery remaining ;)
[12:06] <defcon_> jrib, thankyou, jrib I can disable the password per app?
[12:07] <jrib> defcon_: oh, I thought you meant password to login.  To disable a password for an application, you would have to mess with /etc/sudoers.  Don't remember offhand, but check "man sudoers" for the syntax
[12:07] <kerik> jrib, you shouldn't by chance be good with bluetooth as well?
[12:07] <defcon_> jrib, thanks buddy
[12:07] <shawoho> ikonia: I'll download it.. so I can try it tomorrow....
[12:07] <jrib> kerik: nope, don't know anything about it
[12:07] <defcon_> !props jrib
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about props jrib - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <anotherjesse> I'm having a horrible issue setting up my mom's ubuntu system with her new Optiquest 19" lcd (Q19wb) ...  it is widescreen, and the box has a built in i810 (technically a 82845g/gl) --- setting to 1440x900 (after updating via 915resolution) gives me a black screen
[12:07] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:07] <kerik> jrib, it's cool...thanks bunches mate! been a huge help
[12:07] <Shpook> I've a question, coming from a lowly windows user with no linux experiance. Is it going to be a big pain for me ti install Ubuntu with an ATI video card?
[12:08] <Horscht> can someone help me with a "my computer" setup
[12:08] <usr_rob> fixamsn.sh script, the best i've ever run :) makes the amsn fonts anti-aliased and download the latest tcl/tk
[12:08] <jrib> Horscht: what do you mean?
[12:08] <shawoho> ikonia: Thanks a lot... 'm not an ubuntu user but gNewSense and Blag
[12:08] <ikonia> good luck with it
[12:08] <Horscht> in the "my computer" menu (places -> my computer)
[12:08] <augi01> Shpook: You may find it extreme frustrating, I've heard a lot of negative feedback regarding ATI.
[12:09] <Horscht> i see 2 devices, which are not attached to this laptop
[12:09] <augi01> extremely*
[12:09] <Horscht> in fact, they are non-existant at all
[12:09] <Shpook> Yeah, I've been reading all over the place, and I think it's possible, but beyond my expertise lol.
[12:09] <ror> I don't get sound from java in firefox when listening to music with amarok, but do otherwise
[12:09] <augi01> Shpook: I recommend however booting up the LiveCD and seeing what happens, you never know, it may work flawlessly.
[12:10] <putermech> user name and pass for liveCD ?
[12:10] <Shpook> I get "screen not found"
[12:10] <ash_> Just wanted to say... damn.. wine is fucking amazing
[12:10] <LjL> !language | ash_
[12:10] <ubotu> ash_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:10] <ash_> Sorry :(P
[12:10] <jrib> putermech: "ubuntu" is the username and password is blank (none)
[12:10] <LjL> putermech: "ubuntu" / "", but they shouldn't be asked at all
[12:10] <putermech> TY
[12:10] <MonsieurBon> would it be good, to use reiserFS instead of ext3 for a laptop?
[12:11] <augi01> Shpook: Seems like you've got some work cut out for you if you want to make it work. ;)
[12:11] <Shpook> ive had people tell me to install SuSE because it'll have less problems....but I prefer (k)Ubuntu
[12:11] <Shpook> lol yeah
[12:11] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:11] <M_42> can anyone help me with a weird bug
[12:11] <Shpook> Well....I can always go back to onboard video :'(
[12:11] <M_42> I have a java app which slows down my computer with nothing else running
[12:11] <M_42> I have a dual core
[12:11] <M_42> so it shouldn't be an issue
[12:11] <ror> btw does anyone have experience with the latest kernel and logitech mouse? After upgrading I couldn't boot with error "no core pointer"
[12:12] <techbee> did u  check  the  memory  usage  of java app
[12:12] <putermech> ubuntu and blank pass  doesnt work on liveCD
[12:12] <Aresilek> :-O
[12:12] <kitsune> help with Totem in Fiesty! Anyone?
[12:12] <Aresilek> I'm in!
[12:12] <Aresilek> Yeah!
[12:12] <augi01> putermech: What version of Ubuntu are you trying to boot up?
[12:12] <kerik> jrib, hey again....can I ask you one more?
[12:13] <ror> join #gibbon
[12:13] <putermech> 7.04
[12:13] <usr_rob> which one do you guys prefer? Banshee or Rhythmbox ? i have only experience from rhythmbox
[12:13] <jrib> kerik: sure, just ask the channel and if I can help, I will try
[12:13] <n2diy> putermech: log in is case sensitive.
[12:13] <tawooh> what is the linux equivalent to windows' "ctrl-alt-del"??
[12:13] <kerik> jrib, I can now sendto GAIM...but what if I want to sendto bluetooth or something else?
[12:13] <putermech> lower case  ubuntu ?
[12:13] <techbee> y  not u try  mplayer which   has  good  key  bindings
[12:13] <kitsune> usr_rob: banshee is pretty good, but it depends on what you are using it for
[12:13] <ror> usr_rob, I prefer rhythmbox but prefer amarok to boht
[12:13] <Waddledee> Can someone help me with a problem related to H.264?  Specifically, the video quality is poor (blotchy green stuff and bad frame rate); I've tested the video under Windows, and it looks fine there.
[12:13] <Flannel> putermech: Which flavor of Ubuntu is this?
[12:14] <ror> tawooh: to do what? kill processes? or to lock screen?
[12:14] <kitsune> usr_rob: I use Amarok for general music and banshee for my ipod
[12:14] <aubade> Anyone care to recommend a graphical CVS front?
[12:14] <jrib> kerik: description of nautilus-sendto, suggests installing "gnome-bluetooth".  Do you have that?
[12:14] <tawooh> ror: kill processes
[12:14] <usr_rob> kitsune: okey
[12:14] <Pollywog> !partitions | pollywog
[12:14] <kerik> jrib, I have the bluetooth manager and all...
[12:14] <jrib> kerik: but that package is installed?
[12:14] <putermech> xlive i belive
[12:14] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:15] <kerik> jrib, hmm..good question...2 sec
[12:15] <johntheunique> any linux consultants in here?
[12:15] <Shpook> Wow...you guys are busy in here...lol
[12:15] <kitsune> help with Totem! Anybody direct me to a more specific server?
[12:15] <johntheunique> does anyone know a linux consultant?
[12:15] <findeton> hi
[12:15] <Flannel> putermech: xlive?  that's not Ubuntu.
[12:15] <usr_rob> kitsune: i need i player that can organize my music from my server, thats all
[12:15] <n2diy> ryanakca: system-preferences-keyboard?
[12:15] <jrib> kitsune: just state the problem
[12:15] <fanch59> johntheunique:  give them some time to answer you
[12:15] <kerik> jrib, you're once again caught it ;)...no it wasn't
[12:15] <kitsune> usr_rob: hmm.. no experience there. sorry
[12:15] <putermech> options are...gnome or Xclient
[12:15] <johntheunique> fanch59: thanks, i will
[12:16] <ryanakca> n2diy: I'm using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg...
[12:16] <putermech> in graphic mode now
[12:16] <Shpook> augi01: thanks for the help though, I'm gonna go try and boot up with onboard video and see what happens.
[12:16] <n2diy> ryanakca: Ok, gl.
[12:16] <augi01> Shpook: Ok. Best of luck.
[12:16] <ingrix> Hey, I'm having some problems with Ubuntu 7.04.  I've installed it, and I don't get any errors during that, but when I try to boot up, it hangs on loading the root partition.  It didn't use to do this with 6.10.  I'm loading with Lilo, not grub, by the way.
[12:16] <ingrix> Any idea what could cause this?
[12:16] <anathematic> i'm installing ubuntu server at the moment and it didn't detext any network interfaces :( waht do i do?
[12:16] <kitsune> jrib: Totem in fiesty asks me to search for the suitable codec (which is already installed). When I finish with the prompt window, it proceeds to only play the sound
[12:17] <kerik> jrib, THANKS BUNCHES! - everything working now thanks to you
[12:17] <Flannel> putermech: What you have on that CD, if it's what you say it is, isn't Ubuntu, and we wont know much, ifany, about it.  You should consult it's documentation.
[12:17] <jrib> kerik: np
[12:17] <usr_rob> kitsune:  maybe rhythmbox will do a good job, i don't own a ipod so banshee is not an option cause it can do the same work as rhythmbox.
[12:17] <putermech> i did
[12:17] <putermech> its the iso
[12:17] <jrib> kitsune: what package is it telling you you need?
[12:17] <fanch59> anathematic: install driver for your network interfaces ?
[12:17] <kitsune> usr_rob: Yeah, i think you are right. rythmbox would probably be best
[12:17] <usr_rob> kitsune: Amarok, will look up that one, isn't that a kde appplication ?
[12:17] <techbee> did u check  that  your root partition in first  1024  block
[12:17] <anathematic> fanch59:  so i'll wait till it's all installed then do it?
[12:18] <tawooh> how do i kill a prgram that will not close??
[12:18] <Waddledee> Can someone help me with a problem related to H.264?  Specifically, the video quality is poor (blotchy green stuff and bad frame rate); I've tested the video under Windows, and it looks fine there.
[12:18] <findeton> i've got problems with my ubuntu feisty: the media players don't show the videos adequately (it looks 'pixelized') and, also, after about 7 seconds i init amarok, it closes without giving any error. This's been happening to me for about a week and i've tried reinstalling the software but it keeps happening
[12:18] <ingrix> tawooh: open up a terminal and type killall <program name>
[12:18] <fanch59> anathematic: that's what i'd do if I were you... but i'm not a specialist...
[12:18] <findeton> i don't know why this happens
[12:18] <kitsune> jrib: gstreamer ffmpeg plugin
[12:18] <n2diy> tawooh: with top
[12:18] <fanch59> anathematic: don't trust my word on this one...
[12:18] <johntheunique> findeton: deinterlace it
[12:18] <kitsune> usr_rob: yeah, but it works in Gnome too
[12:19] <jrib> kitsune: what's the actual package?
[12:19] <kitsune> usr_rob: it's a great app
[12:19] <findeton> johntheunique: it doesn't work
[12:19] <anathematic> fanch59:  haha it's okay i have faith in you <3
[12:19] <anathematic> and if you're wrong...
[12:19] <usr_rob> kitsune: okey, nice to know
[12:19] <fanch59> anathematic: thanks ;)
[12:19] <kitsune> jrib: that is the package. "GStreamer FFMPEG Video Plugin"
[12:19] <tawooh> anyway to get a graphical interface to kill programs, as i do not know the actual name of Frostwire's process
[12:19] <johntheunique> does anyone know a linux desktop consultant?
[12:20] <findeton> please help me
[12:20] <findeton> :/
[12:20] <kitche> tawooh: xkill works
[12:20] <findeton> how can i know if amarok gives any error when it closes?
[12:20] <ror> tawooh, "ps x" command should tell you; but I realise this isn't satisfactory;
[12:20] <johntheunique> findeton: sorry, i only know the basics
[12:20] <jrib> kitsune: what does this command return (use pastebin): apt-cache policy gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-misc
[12:20] <protoloco> Hi, the Question is About XEN Virtualization. when i try to install rhel4, via NFS... i get this.. ERROR: INvalid NFS location give: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: /var/lib/xen/xennfs.6DetFM/images/xen/vmlinuz'
[12:20] <kitsune> findeton: run amarok from terminal. that should give you an idea of what's going on
[12:20] <putermech> Ubuntu 7.04 "Feisty Fawn
[12:21] <kitsune> jrib: one sec
[12:21] <findeton> kitsune: i did, but nothing
[12:21] <findeton> nothing strange i mean
[12:21] <tawooh> got it guys, thanks a bunch
[12:22] <jrib> !please > Waddledee (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:22] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:22] <kitsune> jrib: here http://pastebin.ca/516960
[12:23] <kitche> protoloco: might want to ask that in the xen channel
[12:23] <kitche> protoloco: ##xen
[12:23] <protoloco> kitche, already did  :(
[12:23] <kitsune> findeton: hmm... what is the problem more specifically? Is there anything wrong with amarok?
[12:24] <jrib> kitsune: do you know if it persists after a reboot or logging out and back in?
[12:25] <rafee> Hi! I'm new on ubuntu. How can I know which version of ubuntu is installed on my box?
[12:25] <silent_> another day, another try at xbindkeys... Is anyone familiar with this utility on Feisty?
[12:25] <kitsune> jrib: it persists everytime i close totem
[12:25] <silent_> rafee, uname -a might
[12:25] <jrib> !version > rafee (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:25] <Slart> rafee: run this in the terminal.. "lsb_release -a"
[12:25] <findeton> kitsune
[12:25] <doc_ido> hi. just upgraded 6.1 => 7.04 had some minor problems but most is OK. However I still have a couple issues : cannot find where to set keyboard layout in console, and cannot get more than one console to run (alt-F1 works, no other ttys are enabled.)
[12:25] <kitsune> findeton: yes?
[12:25] <rafee> findeton: not mine
[12:25] <jstone> Howdy All
[12:25] <jrib> kitsune: ok, but how about what I asked?
[12:25] <rafee> findeton: I've got GNU/Linux
[12:25] <jstone> I have a Question convcerning file sharing
[12:26] <silent_> !ask
[12:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:26] <findeton> kitsune: one sec i'm going to pastebin...
[12:26] <jawee> I believe I figured out my issue. The Fn+F2 isn't working.
[12:26] <fanch59> rafee: system --> about ubuntu
[12:26] <mh_le> anyone got any idea on how to mount a dir at a specific location?
[12:26] <jawee> So I can't activate my wireless. Any idea?
[12:26] <kitsune> jrib: no. it only asks me about installing the package whenever i start up totem
[12:26] <doc_ido> rafee menu system => about ubuntu => version.
[12:26] <techbee> to  mount  directory
[12:26] <jstone> is there a gui to format hard disks like in xindows
[12:26] <silent_> mh_le mount /asdf /asdf
[12:26] <rafee> fanch59: It is a server I'm connected remotely
[12:26] <techbee> read man pages of mount command
[12:26] <findeton> http://pastebin.ca/516966
[12:27] <kitsune> jrib: sorry, i'm a little tired and I'm slowly losing it ^_^
[12:27] <findeton> that's what happens
[12:27] <jrib> kitsune: so you have rebooted and the next time you start totem it asks you again?
[12:27] <silent_> jstone, gparted
[12:27] <rafee> I really likes this community. A lot of people helping me!
[12:27] <rafee> I really liked this community. A lot of people helping me!
[12:27] <kitsune> jrib: correct
[12:27] <silent_> rafee, yes
[12:27] <doc_ido> y' welcome
[12:27] <findeton> i've found this topic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2566738
[12:27] <mh_le> silent_: I was me who wasen't clear. I would like to have done every time I boot
[12:27] <jstone> i have tried gparted but it doesnt seem to want to format my old ntfs volumes
[12:27] <silent_> mh_le man fstab
[12:27] <kitsune> findeton: you got me on that one!
[12:27] <findeton> it says that i have to run asoundconf reset-default-card, but it doesn't work
[12:27] <jawee> So no ideas? This seems like a weird issue
[12:27] <kitche> doc_ido: loadkeys <keyboard layout>
[12:27] <findeton> thanks kitsune
[12:27] <fanch59> rafee: i'm sorry, don't know much about servers on linux... cannot help you here
[12:28] <doc_ido> kitche thx
[12:28] <kitsune> findeton: for what, i don't know. but you are welcome ^_^
[12:28] <silent_> rafee, what server?
[12:28] <kitche> doc_ido: so to use the us layout you would loadkeys us
[12:28] <mh_le> silent_: I didn't get much info.. I have been trying to use this line but so far no luck... /var/run/mysqld /var/spool/postfix/var/run/mysqld none bind 0 0
[12:28] <jstone> silent: gparted seems to dislike my ntfs volumes
[12:28] <doc_ido> kitche and to make it permanent ?
[12:29] <ikonia> mh_le: I suggested not to use bind in the fstab
[12:29] <silent_> did you read the manual?
[12:29] <jrib> kitsune: does it do it if you start totem from the menu and not by clicking on a video?
[12:29] <kitche> doc_ido: add it to .bashrc
[12:29] <silent_> mh_le "man fstab"
[12:29] <ikonia> mh_le: I also suggested your read the how to on help.ubuntu.com
[12:29] <silent_> read up on the columns and their attributes/options
[12:29] <rafee> ubotu solved: "lsb_release -a"
[12:29] <jstone> silent_: is there a man page?
[12:29] <ikonia> yes
[12:30] <silent_> jstone, for what?
[12:30] <doc_ido> kitche the console settings for bash have changed from dapper to feisty ?
[12:30] <kitsune> jrib: sorry. should have specified. It prompts me if I open it from a video clip. I had it working properly with Edgy, and then I upgraded a couple of days ago
[12:30] <jstone> silent: gparted
[12:30] <kitche> doc_ido: or you can add it to ~/.profile if you wish also
[12:30] <Punkunity> I need to know if it is safe for me to delete KDE from my Ubuntu Feisty setup?? I have beryl and a bunch of programs, but I dont use/like KDE
[12:30] <kitche> doc_ido: but that is just for the command line :) for X you have to edit xorg.conf
[12:30] <jrib> kitsune: ok, does it happen with all video clips?  try one that uses a different codec
[12:30] <Punkunity> and how should I do it, through synaptic??
[12:30] <silent_> jstone, no need, its cli
[12:31] <silent_> type gparted in terminal
[12:31] <techbee> if i  m  not worng  fstab entry  is only needed , when i  want to  mount my   dir during boot time
[12:31] <jstone> silent: cli?
[12:31] <silent_> jstone, !cli
[12:31] <doc_ido> kitche yep but it's command line I want to set up
[12:31] <kitche> techbee: well yes and no you can add it to fstab
[12:31] <silent_> does ubotu have that?
[12:31] <silent_> !cli
[12:31] <doc_ido> X works fine :)
[12:31] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[12:31] <kitche> doc_ido: then edit .bashrc and put loadkeys <keyboard layout>
[12:31] <jstone> silent: i can open gparted ok i just dont know what im doin
[12:31] <techbee> ktiche: ?
[12:31] <kitche> techbee: you just have to put noauto if you don't want it to mount on boot
[12:32] <kitsune> jrib: ok. that narrowed it down. It works with a few other different codecs. I'm trying to play a .rmvb clip
[12:32] <doc_ido> thanks
[12:32] <silent_> jstone, or System > Administration > GNOME Partition Manager
[12:32] <silent_> Editor *
[12:32] <techbee> kitche: yes  , you  are right  , but i  can use  mount command
[12:32] <kitche> doc_ido: bash uses three files for getting it's setup  in the user directory .bashrc .bash_profile and .profile
[12:32] <jrib> kitsune: is this something I can download somewhere?
[12:33] <kitche> techbee: yeah fstab just makes it easier so you don't have to type out the whole thing all the time
[12:33] <MonsieurBon> does anyone know. if I could save some battery by using reiserFS instead of ext3 on my laptop?
[12:33] <jstone> silent: thanks for the help. ill go back to google
[12:33] <techbee> kitche:yup , you are right :)
[12:33] <silent_> jstone, if you don't know what you're doing, learn
[12:33] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:33] <doc_ido> kitche will add it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[12:33] <kitsune> jrib: www.realitylapse.com  take your pick from any anime. I reccomend BLEACH ^_^
[12:34] <jstone> silent: thats kinda why im here
[12:34] <rafee> My version of ubuntu is 5.04. Can I remotely upgrade to 7.04?
[12:34] <jrib> kitsune: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/108811 seems related
[12:34] <jstone> silent: i guess my questin is . is gparted my only option?
[12:34] <kitsune> jrib: thanks. I'll do some more research
[12:34] <nuu> !upgrade | rafee
[12:34] <ubotu> rafee: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[12:34] <ikonia> MonsieurBon: you will not save battery
[12:34] <Skiff> guys silly question but I installed a plugin for xchat, where can I find the perl script file itself, I want to edit it manually ? locate x-sys doesnt work and I dont know how to search the whole system
[12:34] <silent_> jstone, we can answer questions, but if all newbies ask questions about basic features of linux, the channel gets spammed and important issues may slip by, always try the man files first
[12:35] <silent_> eew
[12:35] <MonsieurBon> ikonia, isn't it faster than ext3?
[12:35] <ikonia> MonsieurBon: not all the time, and what does speed have to do with saving battery
[12:35] <jstone> silent: this is basic?    ok.   guess i have a long way to go.    have been windows free since breazy but i guess i missed some basics
[12:36] <silent_> MonsieurBon, use ext3
[12:36] <jrib> kitsune: I'll let you know if it does the same here in 25 minutes (time to finish downloading)
[12:36] <doc_ido> after the upgrade to feisty, alt-f1-f6 doe not bring console shells anymore. Where can I fix this ?
[12:36] <fanch59> silent you're unfair... newbies may find it more reassuring to ask questions to people rather than following tutorials which are not always clear, when they assume that you already know a lot...
[12:36] <MonsieurBon> ikonia, less time for reading means less battery used for it, right?
[12:36] <silent_> jstone, partitioning and mounting partitions is a basic feature of any operating system
[12:36] <ikonia> MonsieurBon: no, as the disk is still spinning
[12:36] <ikonia> MonsieurBon: and the different is milliseconds
[12:37] <kitsune> jrib: whoa! that's unusual for that site.
[12:37] <MonsieurBon> ikonia, ok, thanks
[12:37] <kitsune> jrib: they're usually pretty fast. 10-15 min
[12:37] <jstone> silent: i miss the xp snap in.  ill go see if i can figure it out
[12:37] <jstone> silent: thansk for yalls help
[12:38] <findeton> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/84967 that's the bug
[12:38] <findeton> i think
[12:38] <silent_> fanch59, I realize this. Not long ago I was one of those users asking questions for every single problem, however, with hindsite, I see that I never actually LEARNED anything by asking for solutions... Only through finding the solutions was I able to build knowledge on the OS
[12:39] <johntheunique> silent_: sometimes users aren't trying to learn anything. they just want a problem fixed
[12:39] <silent_> I agree that some man files are unclear, and I welcome questions asking for more specific information, however, if people show up asking, "what is ext3", we have a problem
[12:39] <johntheunique> that's probably more often the case in here
[12:39] <johntheunique> silent_: i'd refer them to a wikipedia page
[12:39] <techbee> silent_:well  said
[12:40] <fanch59> silentt_: i'm still new here, but everything i learnt, i owe it to s.o on this channel who told me what to do in order to solve my problems and telling me at the same time what we were doing and why we were doing it...
[12:40] <silent_> johntheunique, then they will always have that problem and wont have a dynamic solution... they'll just memorize the command/method to fixing it, which may or may not work as the OS changes
[12:40] <fanch59> silent_: i've learnt more in 5 hours with this guy than in 20 reading unclear tutorials which didn't apply to my case without my knowing...
[12:40] <nuu> fanch59: not to be polemic, but you could've probably learned much more on your own using google alone
[12:40] <athi> you there ant-?
[12:41] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:41] <johntheunique> silent_: this is true, but that type of user is usually command line shy anyhow
[12:41] <fanch59> nuu: well in this case....nope !
[12:41] <M_42> if I run a java app it hogs all my cpu... and my system becomes unbearably slow.. but I have a dual core
[12:41] <silent_> fanch59, if you learn everything in those man files, and play around with commands, you will learn everything
[12:41] <kitche> M_42: java is slow anyways :)
[12:41] <minerale> if I do the following I get an error: sudo cat somefile > /etc/someconfig     (the pipe is not sudoed, how can I bypass that)
[12:42] <Hellevator> m_42 how much ram do you have?
[12:42] <M_42> well it shouldn't lock up my system if I have an extra cpu to handle that
[12:42] <M_42> though
[12:42] <nuu> minerale: use quotes
[12:42] <techbee> M_42 : can you  check  the memory  usage by  java application
[12:42] <M_42> 2gb
[12:42] <kitche> M_42: and java does use the power from dual core
[12:42] <jrib> M_42: all java apps?
[12:42] <kitche> M_42: I mean does not
[12:42] <M_42> it uses 1 core
[12:42] <M_42> of 2
[12:42] <silent_> johntheunique, unfortunately linux hasn't developed to the point where a user can diagnose and fix any problem through a gui. Those users should install Windows
[12:42] <fanch59> silent_: i'm not saying you cannot learn by yourself.... but sometimes you need the help of someone who tells you stuff step by step to get detoxed from mindow$
[12:42] <johntheunique> silent_: this is true and something that needs work
[12:42] <kitche> M_42: yes java only uses 1 core anyways since it's not designed to use multiple cores
[12:42] <M_42> im stumped
[12:42] <M_42> it uses 300mb
[12:42] <M_42> but I have 2gb
[12:43] <M_42> *_*
[12:43] <M_42> :D
[12:43] <nuu> minerale: sudo "cat somefile > /etc/someconfig"
[12:43] <techbee> M_42:it seems wired
[12:43] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[12:43] <kitche> M_42: but what java application is this anyways
[12:43] <cdehaan> Does anyone know when/if PIdgin will be added to the official Repos?
[12:43] <M_42> wurm online
[12:43] <bruenig> cdehaan, 5 months
[12:43] <jrib> minerale: cat somefile | sudo tee /etc/someconfig
[12:43] <silent_> fanch, i completely agree with you, I just like to see that the user has done some research either through google or man files to find a solution to at least build some background info. This info will help US when we ask them questions to isolate the problem.
[12:43] <tux_wears_a_tux> hi
[12:44] <wb32> hello new to ubuntu and a friend installed need to find out what he installed what is the code for it in a termalnal
[12:44] <cdehaan> bruenig: Are you serious?
[12:44] <tux_wears_a_tux> wats the minimum system requirements for desktop effects?
[12:44] <Hellevator> cdehaan, I know you can get pidgin from www.getdeb.net   not sure about a repo though
[12:44] <bruenig> cdehaan, probably closer to 4 months
[12:44] <kitche> M_42: yeah that will be slow :)
[12:44] <cdehaan> Hellevator: Any idea if this breaks the ubuntu-desktop package?
[12:44] <cdehaan> bruenig: Is it not to be released as an update to gaim?
[12:44] <techbee> M_42:can you tell  any other process  running like X  server , browser
[12:44] <silent_> example, its annoying to have to tell some one how to open a terminal to input commands
[12:44] <cdehaan> bruenig: I ask, because I'm not familiar with how Ubuntu handles these things.
[12:44] <bruenig> third party installs are not the greatest idea
[12:44] <fanch59> silent_: fair enough, i understand that completely... so apparently we agreed from the beginning, but we simply didn't know ;)
[12:44] <bruenig> cdehaan, it will be in the next version 7.10
[12:44] <M_42> well the thing is it slows down my system... should my other core not pick up the slack
[12:44] <astrobill> is there a program which tells system information, like what hardware, etc. installed by default in feisty?
[12:44] <Hellevator> cdehaan. Just installing pidgin won't break anything.  I think uninstalling gaim may break ubuntu-desktop so just leave them both installed
[12:44] <M_42> like windows
[12:44] <M_42> :D
[12:45] <bruenig> they will just say it conflicts with gaim and replaces gaim in the control file which will cause gaim to remove upon install, I don't think it would show up in the update-notifier though
[12:45] <cdehaan> Hellevator: Hmm... I was quite sure the packages conflicted.
[12:45] <bruenig> you would have to install it yourself
[12:45] <bruenig> Hellevator, ubuntu-desktop is nothing
[12:45] <kitche> M_42: yes but since java only uses one core and doesn't even know the other core is there java will just use one core
[12:45] <Hellevator> cdehaan.  Nope. I did it on my laptop and it worked just fine.
[12:46] <cdehaan> Hellevator: OK, good to know.
[12:46] <cdehaan> Hellevator: Thanks :)
[12:46] <bruenig> and he has tried to upgrade since then I am sure
[12:46] <techbee> kitche: cpu  usage is only  factor for slow performance of m/c , i  think  ram plays imp  role
[12:46] <dalyn> hey guys
[12:46] <cdehaan> Maybe I'll just stick with GAIM for now... I switched to Ubuntu to try out it's package management, and I'd rather not garbage updates and such up.
[12:46] <kitche> techbee: same thing java takes up a lot of ram anyways
[12:47] <techbee> kitche:thanks
[12:47] <Moduliz0r> hi
[12:47] <kitche> techbee: a small program can take up about 15 megs alone
[12:47] <dalyn> hey, i just switched to ubuntu, and i was wondering if i can get games such as sims or half life to run on ubuntu?
[12:47] <silent_> fanch59, :P yea, I'm not denying the rights of people to ask questions, I just would like them to have looked into the issue before asking questions like the mentioned, "what is ext3?", when I'll bet thousands of google hits will tell you straight off that ext3 is a filesystem
[12:47] <bruenig> cdehaan, arch package management is superb, you should check that out if you are looking for some really impressive package management
[12:47] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Depends on your graphics card
[12:47] <jrib> kitsune: alright, same thing happens to me here.  Looks like a bug.  It would be great if you could confirm and comment on the one I linked you to.  If you just want to play the file, mplayer plays it fine here
[12:48] <cdehaan> bruenig: Arch? Do you have any more details on that?
[12:48] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: If you have an ATI card, HL2 will run on a low level, like dxlevel 70, thats how I have to run it
[12:48] <dalyn> moduliz0r: well i tried to put the cd in, but i cant figure out how to run it
[12:48] <jimmicaboolie> HELLO, WORLD!
[12:48] <CWar> howdy
[12:48] <bruenig> cdehaan, just google it, arch linux
[12:48] <kitche> cdehaan: arch is another linux distro join #archlinux or go to archlinux.org to find out more
[12:48] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Do you have WINE installed?
[12:48] <cdehaan> bruenig: I'm not a packaging guru... I can build RPMs and such, but I mainly switched from Fedora because there's such bulk with RPM+Yum... it's just so slow.
[12:48] <jimmicaboolie> LLLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUXXXXXXXXXX
[12:48] <silent_> fanch59, I'm a firm believer that a user should learn the existing software before they progess, as some of the existing software, such as terminal or synaptic may be needed for fixing issues
[12:48] <jimmicaboolie> TUX
[12:48] <jimmicaboolie> TUX
[12:48] <dalyn> moduliz0r: no i do not believe that i have it
[12:48] <kitsune> jrib: thanks for the help. I'll definitely comment and continue using mplayer
[12:49] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Go into the terminal and type "sudo apt-get install wine"
[12:49] <cdehaan> bruenig: Aah... cool. I will check that out. I really like something mainstream so I can get answers to my problems easily (I am primarily a mac user, after all :))
[12:49] <aoirthoir> http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/337-My-Appologies-to-everybody-not-living-in-a-free-country.html
[12:49] <aoirthoir> later peeps
[12:49] <doc_ido> grrr can't find anything on google :( What service/program is responsible for firing up the bash shell when you do alt-f1 to go back to console mode ?
[12:49] <silent_> dalyn, you may want to enable the repositories from the winehq site first, to get the latest version
[12:49] <fanch59> silent_: you're right... but some people need to be told once that they should google to try to solve their problem, simlpy because they never thought it could help...i'm know many people like this, who'd rather give me (or someone else) a phone call when they forgot to plug their pc...
[12:49] <kitche> doc_ido: bash
[12:49] <doc_ido> I must have lost a package during the upgrade
[12:49] <doc_ido> bash is installed
[12:49] <ror> I can't get xchat to launch links unless I have firefox already running
[12:49] <CWar> i've got a new xubuntu install w/ samba installed ... when i try to copy a directory to it from an xp pc (about 600M), it starts and then i get a "Cannot copy ... The specified network name is no longer available"
[12:49] <kitche> doc_ido: well bash is the program your looking for
[12:50] <dalyn> moduliz0r: how do i get to terminal? i just started ubuntu today ;/
[12:50] <Moduliz0r> ok
[12:50] <fanch59> btw, does anyone know why gaim won't connect to network when network connection is made through rutilt ? (i us the RT73 wireless driver)
[12:50] <doc_ido> I can boot, it fires gdm and xorg, and gnome-terinal works fine
[12:50] <Moduliz0r> Applications>Accessories>Terminal
[12:50] <silent_> fanch59, it's a learning experience, and I agree it takes time
[12:50] <doc_ido> however no way to get a plain n-X console by alt-Fx$
[12:50] <kitche> doc_ido: but check /etc/securetty
[12:50] <kitsune> jrib: i'm also having trouble with the totem video plugin for Firefox on all types of codecs. It will go to the usual black window in forefoxx where it would normally play the video after loading, but it just hangs
[12:50] <dalyn> is terminal like ms-dos?
[12:51] <Moduliz0r> similar
[12:51] <Moduliz0r> but Linux console
[12:51] <dalyn> oh ok
[12:51] <jroes> hi, I am suddenly stuck with a grub> prompt after making a new partition in vista.  is there some way to re-install my bootloader with the 6.10 live cd?
[12:51] <ror> it's more powerful than ms-dos
 moduliz0r: how do i get to terminal? i just started ubuntu today ;/ CLASSIC example... he is trying to install WINE before he even knows what the terminal is
[12:51] <kitsune> jrib: I could use the mplayer plugin as an alternative if I could get it to fill the window
[12:51] <kitche> !grub | jroes
[12:51] <ubotu> jroes: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:51] <doc_ido> /etc/securetty lists tty01...tty60
[12:51] <fanch59> silent_: i personnally find it really interesting to learn how my system works, but it's true that sometimes you need it to work quickly, and then it's probably easyer just to ask...
[12:51] <cdehaan> Where would I view logs about why "Desktop Effects" fails to enable?
[12:51] <CWar> any ideas on the "cannot copy ..." problem w/ samba?
[12:51] <jroes> thanks kitch
[12:51] <kitche> ror: depends what user since dos is mighty powerful
[12:51] <Moduliz0r> silent_: just leave other people alone please
[12:51] <noobsauce> does anyone actually use desktop effects?
[12:51] <jroes> !echo "thanks" | kitch :)
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about echo "thanks" - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <kitche> doc_ido: ok that shouldn't be the problem then
[12:52] <cdehaan> noobsauce: I do :)
[12:52] <silent_> Moduliz0r, no
[12:52] <cdehaan> noobsauce: Again, disclaimer, mac user.
[12:52] <n2diy> cdehaan: /var/logs
[12:52] <ror> kitche, ok I meant the dos *prompt* rather than DOS; and the dos prompt is nerfed, especially in certain versions of windows
[12:52] <qqn661> noobsauce, hopefully not
[12:52] <Moduliz0r> :/
[12:52] <dalyn> it is not letting my type my password
[12:52] <noobsauce> qqn661, why not?
[12:52] <ror> does it even do process control?
[12:52] <noobsauce> is it unstable?
[12:52] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: it is but it doesnt show
[12:52] <jrib> kitsune: using mplayer plugin, can't you right click -> fullscreen?
[12:52] <dalyn> oh heh
[12:52] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: its a security thing
[12:52] <qqn661> noobsauce, it is buggy and problematic. install compiz or beryl instead
[12:52] <cdehaan> n2diy: Any idea which file it would be dumped in?
[12:52] <doc_ido> kitche nope, this is rally weird
[12:52] <techbee> cdehaan:/var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:52] <kitsune> jrib: whoops. nevermind. I forgot I fixed that one yesterday.
[12:52] <cdehaan> techbee: Thank you :)
[12:52] <ror> dalyn, you are typing your password it just doesn't show, not even *s
[12:52] <Ramblin> i think the desktop effects being referred to are beryl and the like
[12:52] <noobsauce> doesn't desktop effect use compiz?
[12:53] <kitsune> jrib: thanks for your help
[12:53] <n2diy> cdehaan: not sure, maybe something related to X?
[12:53] <CWar> together we stand
[12:53] <silent_> Moduliz0r, what the users here don't realize is that Ubuntu is growing... what happens if a year from know 10 000 users are idling this channel all asking 'stupid' questions like "what is terminal"?
[12:53] <qqn661> noobsauce, a modified version of compiz, which doesn't work very well at all
[12:53] <dalyn> oh thank you guys
[12:53] <silent_> dalyn, man linux
[12:53] <noobsauce> hmm
[12:53] <silent_> jk ;P
[12:53] <cdehaan> qqn661: Do you have any idea why they used a modded compiz vs. stock compiz/beryl?
[12:53] <Moduliz0r> silent_: You need to realise that it is "Linux for human beings" not just technically advanced users
[12:53] <techbee> Ramblin:can u  explain  ur problem
[12:53] <noobsauce> i wonder if dell is shipping ubuntu with desktop effects enabled
[12:54] <ror> silent_, "what is terminal" is not stupid, it's pretty perceptive actually
[12:54] <otero> what is everyone using for editing php files?
[12:54] <ror> it at least shows they have been reading before asking
[12:54] <johntheunique> noobsauce: they could since they are customizing the hardware
[12:54] <silent_> yes, 10 000 human beings spamming this channel with ignorance
[12:54] <nickrud> silent_, that question was asked about 1000 users when there were only about 300 idling; the answer is the same: explain
[12:54] <taime1> What does, 'no graphics filter found' mean in open office?
[12:54] <Moduliz0r> Its not ignorance
[12:54] <qqn661> cdehaan, i really don't know who came up with that idea
[12:54] <kitche> otero: just a basic editor
[12:54] <cdehaan> otero: vi :)
[12:54] <CWar> bump ... "cannot copy ... the specified network name is no longer available" ideas?
[12:54] <Ramblin> iam running fine with edgy and beryl and Nvidia
[12:54] <techbee> otero: text editors
[12:54] <Moduliz0r> Its for "human beings" - i.e. not just professionals, everybody has to start somewhere
[12:54] <techbee> otero:vim , emacs
[12:54] <otero> anything that detects errors in php code?
[12:55] <ror> nano is a good basic edittor for inexperienced users; vi is worth learning tho, type vimtutor to start
[12:55] <fanch59> silent_: it may be a stupid question when you know the answer... but when i googled to try to solve my first pb with ubuntu, i found tutorial saying "do this, do that"... but i didn't knwo where, and it took me at least one hour to find where i should type a command line...
[12:55] <techbee> otero: use vim which has syntax highlighting feature
[12:55] <qqn661> otero, emacs, vim
[12:55] <kitche> otero: not really since php is like javascript but can be used to run scripts ont he cli also
[12:55] <cdehaan> otero: I'm not sure but perhaps Bluefish would if you're looking for graphical
[12:55] <qqn661> techbee, emacs also has syn highlighting
[12:55] <dalyn> ok i think it is done
[12:55] <silent_> nickrud, I would be willing to bet money that either this channel had similar traffic due to the hype of the OS initially, and was filled with more experienced users, as most 'newbies' these days get linux because some one said its 'easy'
[12:55] <otero> yea i would like graphical
[12:56] <pliz> Hi All! I have a question about ubuntu feisty. After installation it has been suspending perfectly but after some point it stopped doing it. /va/log/hibernate.log has the following lines in it s2ram: unknown machine, see s2ram(8) and the USuspendRamForce option hibernate: EnsureUSuspendCapable refuses to let us continue. Googlwing for the problem did not help me. Is it a known problem? Can anyone give me a hint?
[12:56] <silent_> fanch, but you found it didn't you?
[12:56] <bruenig> and emacs has the extra benefit of being an embedded operating system
[12:56] <ianm_> otero: maybe see if gedit is enough for you (I use it for ruby coding and no complaints)
[12:56] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: WINE installed did you say?
[12:56] <nickrud> silent_, heh. The quality level of questions now is well above then; I could answer most then, hardly any now :)
[12:56] <silent_> :P, jkjk I think users should ask questions, I support your decision to to research of your own
[12:56] <dalyn> yes i believe so
[12:56] <T`> hi.. anyone know how t make xchat not quit when i press Ctrl + X? thats the shortcut for cut!!
[12:56] <CWar> bump ... "cannot copy... specified network name is no longer avail" .... help, please?
[12:56] <jroes> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows isn't very SATA-friendly :/
[12:56] <Moduliz0r> Ok
[12:57] <ror> gedit is similar to windows notepad; (or kate on kubuntu)
[12:57] <ror> CWar, check your machine is still reachable, just try logging back in
[12:57] <Zara_thrustra> holy crud 1184 people
[12:57] <bruenig> gedit is far better than windows notepad
[12:57] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: is your HL2 CD in the drive?
[12:57] <rafee> Congrats to this community. Docs of ubuntu are very cool!
[12:57] <otero> how do I start vim ?
[12:57] <nickrud> T`, don't you mean ctl-q for quiting xchat?
[12:57] <mwe> gphpedit
[12:57] <otero> just to see how it looks
[12:57] <ror> otero, vimtutor will start it in tutor mode
[12:57] <CWar> ror ... i can access the machine fine ... only when i try copying big files do i get the error
[12:57] <techbee> bruenig:thats for sure
[12:57] <otero> thanks
[12:57] <T`> nickrud, no.. ctrl+X somehow makes it quit here! strange
[12:57] <ror> you might need to sudo apt-get install vim
[12:58] <kitche> T`: you sure your using xchat and not xchat-gnome
[12:58] <ror> CWar, hmm
[12:58] <dalyn> yes
[12:58] <nickrud> T` does XChat on the menu bar have ctl-x as the exit?
[12:58] <techbee> otero:open terminal  and  type vim filename
[12:58] <ror> samba is a bit dodgy for file transfers, if you're transferring from your linux machine I'd recommend using SSH/SCP with a client on the windows machine
[12:58] <T`> nickrud, hmm no. ctrl+Q
[12:58] <bruenig> otero, vim will take a while to learn
[12:58] <korny_unregister> hi
[12:58] <ror> it always seems far more reliable
[12:58] <silent_> oh  god, dalyn is trying to install a directx 9 level game through wine without knowing what drive_c is, without knowing what winecfg is, with a copy of ubuntu he installed TODAY
[12:58] <T`> kitche, i think its xchat
[12:58] <fanch59> silent_:  yes i did.... but i got used to do that already when i was a windows user... i was an "advanced" user... now i'm just a beginner with linux. I still have my old habbits, which can be good at time, but very bad as well... (i need to get mmore impregnated of the linux logic)
[12:58] <Taxman> ok, after allocating 5gb, I can see it's definitely recursing. the error message is cp: cannot create directory `/target/ubuntu/ubuntu/ubuntu/.disk: no space left on device. It goes up to as many as 7 ubuntu's and down to one. Not sure why I didn't notice the recursion before
[12:58] <T`> kitche, help shows Xchat 2.8.0
[12:58] <CWar> i've got putty ...
[12:58] <qqn661> korny_unregister, hi
[12:58] <ror> then I'd use putty
[12:59] <Taxman> why would copying a mounted 7.04 cd recurse like that?
[12:59] <gordonjcp> silent_: every learning curve has a thin and pointy end
[12:59] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Ok, do you have 1 or 2 cd drives?
[12:59] <ror> winSCP is a nice SCP client too
[12:59] <mwe> or winscp
[12:59] <dalyn> 1
[12:59] <qqn661> gordonjcp, not necessarily
[12:59] <dalyn> 2*
[12:59] <korny_unregister> waht system requirements does the ubuntu feisty fawn livecd have?
[12:59] <jroes> hrm
[12:59] <jroes> I want to just get back to the windows bootloader to be honest
[01:00] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: ok its probably automounted, try "cd /media/cdrom0" in the terminal
[01:00] <silent_> gordonjcp, I recognize that learning this OS is not easy, but learning methods, without learning the underlying dynamics of the systems used, will only make bad habits, and will make learning harder
[01:00] <kitche> T`: well xchat-gnome shows that also since it's xchat just with gnome's ui type stuff added to it that's why I asked not sure what version each are at though :(
[01:00] <ror> jroes, fixboot in windows should do that, or fixmbr depending on version
[01:00] <CWar> what do i do in putty to transfer from a winxp share to my xubuntu pc?
[01:00] <mlk> hi
[01:00] <Taxman> korny_unregister: about 256mb ram and a fast enough processor or patience
[01:00] <enema_cow> hey all, could anybody contribute a quick yes or no on whether there's a builtin mechanism to downgrade an upgraded feisty install back down to dapper?
[01:00] <mwe> jroes: fixmbr from the recovery console using the xp boot cd
[01:00] <silent_> method vs theory... regular mathematician vs einstein (hope that works how I saw it)
[01:00] <T`> kitche, it seems to only happen after upgrading to feisty :(
[01:00] <kitche> enema_cow: no
[01:00] <nickrud> enema_cow, no
[01:00] <ror> CWar, if you install winscp it'll be a drag/drop thing
[01:00] <taime1> Does Anyone Know Why I Am Recieving This Error I OpenOffice: 'Graphics filter not found' ?
[01:00] <enema_cow> thanks all
[01:00] <T`> lemme see if i can remove the config files and try it
[01:00] <T`> brb
[01:01] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Then, type "ls" and do you get a load of file names?
[01:01] <korny_unregister> Taxman: to load the whole livecd to ram or just fast enough to install the system
[01:01] <ror> you'll need to enable write permissions on your samba share though
[01:01] <astrobill> hello, will anyone recommend a low cost, low ink cost, inkjet printer for ubuntu?
[01:01] <ror> I don't mean samba share actually
[01:01] <gordonjcp> silent_: meh
[01:01] <Siph0n> anyone ever attach an xbox controller to their linux computer? i made the usb connector on my xbox controller, and see a howto for xbox 360 controller, but not the old xbox
[01:01] <cdehaan>  Is there a fork of XMMS that's more up to date and recent, or am I making that up?
[01:01] <dalyn> no
[01:01] <gordonjcp> silent_: let him fiddle about and break it a few times
[01:01] <ror> just get winscp, log in to ubuntu then you can drag/drop as you please
[01:01] <Taxman> korny_unregister: it never loads the whole thing, but fast enough to use it and to install from. what processor do you have.
[01:01] <beford> cdehaan, BMP
[01:01] <kitche> astrobill: umm ink on any printer costs why do you think printers are like 25 bukcs now :)
[01:01] <ror> xmms is dead (and thank god)
[01:01] <nickrud> cdehaan, beep-media-player
[01:01] <cdehaan> beford: Thank you much
[01:01] <mlk> what 3d desktop would you suggest, if you were about to use one? best performance & support..
[01:01] <wolf54> during a recent software update i lost my internet connection. and skipped a par of the download or something. now wireless connection isnt working, the device not being found, can anyone help?
[01:02] <bruenig> mlk, #ubuntu-effects
[01:02] <fanch59> enema_cow: do you really want 1186 people to say "i don't know", just to be sure you've been read ?
[01:02] <kitche> ror: well not really just xmms1 is dead
[01:02] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: ok, type "cd /media/cdrom1" and then ls, then do you get a list?
[01:02] <Zara_thrustra> wolf how are you on?
[01:02] <CWar> do i need an ftp server running on my xubuntu box to drag from winscp to it?
[01:02] <enema_cow> fanch59: i got my answer already
[01:02] <astrobill> kitche:  heh, but what about one that works with ubuntu?
[01:02] <wolf54> im using 6.10 disc
[01:02] <techbee> wolf54: what  is error message
[01:02] <kitche> astrobill: hp is good
[01:02] <ror> CWar, no you just need SSHD
[01:02] <mlk> bruenig: thanks
[01:02] <ror> sshd I don't think is on by default in ubuntu
[01:02] <wolf54> no error message, my wireless card just isnt working
[01:02] <aztracker1> personally, I wish the nullsoft guys would just do a winamp port for linux..
[01:02] <korny_unregister> Taxman: i'm thinking about building a silten pc of old hardware. I think i have 700 mhz pentium 3 and 256mb of ram. i hoped it would be enough to load the system to ram and not use any mechanical parts.
[01:02] <dalyn> no
[01:02] <enema_cow> fanch59: apologies in advance if i read your comment wrong...
[01:03] <silent_> gordonjcp, I'm almost ready to suggest that users should mandatorily start using linux at the command line level with a base debian install or somesuch
[01:03] <aztracker1> of course "lamp" is already taken..
[01:03] <johntheunique> the gnome guys seem to think ubuntu isn't ready for the desktop
[01:03] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Is the cd an icon on the desktop?
[01:03] <astrobill> any hp?  I had problems with an older one.  It never printed right.
[01:03] <johntheunique> or any linux for that matter
[01:03] <ethereality> I had configured my NTFS Windows partition to automatically mount read/writeable, and my external hard drive always automatically mounted read/writeable. I installed the most recent three updates -- one of them involving the linux kernel -- and now neither of them automatically mount, and after I doubleclick on the Windows partition to mount it (/media/disk/Documents and Settings/Owner), it is back to read-only again. What went
[01:03] <ethereality> wrong and what should I do?
[01:03] <qqn661> wolf54, in general, ubuntu + wireless = problems
[01:03] <dalyn> yes, simcity3000
[01:03] <korny_unregister> my english really suks
[01:03] <beford> cdehaan, try http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/BMPx_Homepage
[01:03] <techbee> wolf54:check  it properly , there should be some error msg
[01:03] <lifeisgreat1024> running ubuntu feisty desktop and works great for me :)
[01:03] <Moduliz0r> Hmm
[01:03] <usser> aztracker1: its aol now not nullsoft =
[01:03] <Taxman> korny_unregister: that's enough to run from cd, but you'll have to keep the cd in to do anything with it.
[01:03] <Moduliz0r> Odd
[01:03] <kitche> aztracker1: winamp isn't even being developed anymore really just bug fixes and such since AOL dropped it
[01:03] <lifeisgreat1024> Love the KVM support :)
[01:03] <fanch59> enema_cow: sorry, I didn't mean to be rude, i just thought you were beeing so... btw my command of the english language is rather limited, so i may misinterprete things at times
[01:03] <ror> I'm using wireless wtih no problems but I'm on a RT2500 chipset which has full open linux drivers
[01:03] <silent_> chances are I could solve all of dalyn's WINE issues, but I don't want to, because it wont help him
[01:03] <ethereality> qqn661: only problem i've had with wireless has been that god-forsaken keyring
[01:03] <Moduliz0r> are you sure you are using LS and not IS?
[01:04] <Taxman> if you want a minimal system with no moving parts you want something like damn small linux, korny_unregister
[01:04] <korny_unregister> Taxman: that wouldn't be silent at all
[01:04] <ror> silent_, are you good with WINE? I can't get directplay 8 to work
[01:04] <wolf54> i was using 7.10, lost my internet connection during software update. im using dell e1505 notebook
[01:04] <ror> tried overriding dlls
[01:04] <dalyn> yes ls
[01:04] <dalyn> ok
[01:04] <aztracker1> johntheunique, imo it depends on the deployment wrt readiness... for grandma who only does surfing and email, maybe.. for little timmy who wants to buy a game at a store, and have an easy install, no..
[01:04] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: You sure its not in either of those folders?
[01:04] <aztracker1> kitche, I know.. winamp5 works well, and has a good plugin system..
[01:04] <ethereality> I had configured my NTFS Windows partition to automatically mount read/writeable, and my external hard drive always automatically mounted read/writeable. I installed the most recent three updates -- one of them involving the linux kernel -- and now neither of them automatically mount, and after I doubleclick on the Windows partition to mount it (/media/disk/Documents and Settings/Owner), it is back to read-only again. What went
[01:04] <ethereality> wrong and what should I do?
[01:04] <dalyn> so i type cd /media/cdrom1 then enter, then ls
[01:04] <johntheunique> aztracker1: that's what i think. isn't that the majority market of people with old pcs?
[01:04] <Taxman> korny_unregister: try the livecd and you'll see what I mean. It's not spinning all the time, it will run the current program, but if you need to load a new program it spins up the cd
[01:05] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: yes, after execuring the cd /media/cdrom0 or 1
[01:05] <enema_cow> fanch59: no problem.  it's always nice when people can work out a misinterpretation on an irc channel without it breaking out into flaming :)
[01:05] <techbee> wolf54:open terminal  and type dmsg and check the error msg
[01:05] <Moduliz0r> executing*
[01:05] <aztracker1> johntheunique, not sure... next time my grandmother's pc dies, and needs updating, will try her "slots" game under wine, if that works, she'll be on ubuntu.
[01:05] <johntheunique> aztracker1: i've done that for two friends
[01:05] <wolf54> okay ill try that when i restart, cus im using a live cd now
[01:05] <mwe> techbee: dmesg :)
[01:06] <ror> my mum freaked just at the sight of openoffice; she swore that she hated it and wanted office 97 back on
[01:06] <korny_unregister> Taxman: dsl is a bit too small i think, i'd like to use applications like gaim and firefox. so if i've booted the livecd an started these two applications i coukd remove the cd if i will not start anything else?
[01:06] <johntheunique> aztracker1: i figure the installation service could be worth $200 to them
[01:06] <ror> 97 fer christsakes it's not even compatible with newer MS offices
[01:06] <techbee> Do  any  one try  to  voipcheap  client to  run  under  wine
[01:06] <Zara_thrustra> does yahoo messenger work with wine?
[01:06] <fanch59> enema_cow: i'm not proud enough to pretend i'm always right... (though i am most of the time, actually ;) )
[01:06] <johntheunique> aztracker1: tell me what you think of this ad?
[01:06] <aztracker1> johntheunique, nod... there's usually one or two things that are relatively simple games, both my grandmothers like to play.. but they should run fine on wine.. just untested..
[01:06] <johntheunique> spyware and virii got you down? you could reinstall windows xp only to get overtaken once again. or you could shell out $600 for a computer that will support windows vista? or you could pay me $200 to install ubuntu linux and never worry about spyware or virii again. find out if ubuntu will work for you by scheduling a free consultation.
[01:06] <ror> Zara_thrustra, use GAIM it's better, handles yahoo well
[01:07] <techbee> mwe: thanks
[01:07] <cables> !offtopic | johntheunique
[01:07] <ubotu> johntheunique: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:07] <johntheunique> aztracker1: that's why i'd consult for free
[01:07] <Zara_thrustra> ror: thanks
[01:07] <Taxman> korny_unregister: not sure, I can't recall if you can remove the ubuntu livecd or not
[01:07] <kitche> johntheunique: well considering there is linux spyware out there, and by the way it's starting to grow
[01:07] <dalyn> ok when i click on the icon on the desktop, it takes me to some files on the disk
[01:07] <cables> Should I install the latest kernel update? I don't want to mess up my nVidia restricted driver.
[01:07] <aztracker1> a $600 computer won't support the biggest reason for upgrading to vista (Aero), though the newer nvidia and amd/ati chipsets to decent enough gfx
[01:07] <johntheunique> kitche: i've never run into it
[01:07] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: yeah but thats in the browser, we need to get there in terminal really
[01:07] <ror> cables, the newest kernel messed up my mouse;
[01:08] <kitche> johntheunique: or you don't notice it like you do on windows
[01:08] <dalyn> i click on auto run, and it asks me do i want to run in terminal, display, cancel, or run
[01:08] <ror> how is aero the biggest reason for vista? a bit of transparency is old hat and should be in XP
[01:08] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: thats not how its done
[01:08] <zulema> I have a very strange problem, the CDROM got mounted as /media/hdd instead of /media/cdrom, and I can't umount it, even as root
[01:08] <johntheunique> kitche: it's sure to be a firefox thing
[01:08] <aztracker1> kitche, haven't seen it myself.. just the same, easier to deal with in linux than spyware/adware under xp.
[01:08] <gordonjcp> silent_: yeah, 'cos you never asked silly questions or broke stuff in a silly way, eh?
[01:08] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Is there an install.exe or something?
[01:08] <Taxman> so any ideas why copying a mounted 7.04 cd recurses and uses all available space and runs out?
[01:08] <fanch59> is OO:08 gmt time ?
[01:08] <gordonjcp> ;-)
[01:08] <gordonjcp> 00:08 BST
[01:08] <bruenig> zulema, you aren't cded into /media/hdd are you?
[01:08] <aztracker1> ror, the eye candy has more than just transparencies...
[01:08] <Moduliz0r> 00:08GMT+0
[01:09] <wolf54> 11:08
[01:09] <aztracker1> non fullscreen gaming runs a bit better too...
[01:09] <kitche> johntheunique: I can install MyWeb toolbar on firefox and guess what it's spyware :)
[01:09] <dalyn> yes in one of the folders
[01:09] <jroes> mwe, ror: thanks, but I can't seem to find fixboot or fixmbr when booting to a command line on my vista dvd...
[01:09] <fanch59> gordonjcp: ty
[01:09] <grubiskillingme> Someon type in the terminal command to edit grub bootloader files - Shart did it last time
[01:09] <zulema> bruenig: all windows using it were closed
[01:09] <johntheunique> kitche: but it's a choice
[01:09] <aztracker1> alpha transparency support via hardware has been in windows since win2k
[01:09] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: ok, right click the install program and select Open with Other application
[01:09] <kitche> johntheunique: umm MyWeb is packaged with some software so it's not choice
[01:09] <bruenig> zulema, in the terminal, when you are trying to umount it, make sure you are not in /media/hdd when you do that, else it will tell you it is busy
[01:09] <silent_> gordonjcp, of course I did, but I usually tried to figure it out on my own... I break things every day
[01:09] <johntheunique> kitche: it's packaged with ubuntu software?
[01:10] <ror> aztracker1, I'm aware of what aero is but it's still pretty feeble compared to the efforts of compiz/beryl
[01:10] <ror> aero is hardly special
[01:10] <aztracker1> kitche what software in linux comes with myweb?
[01:10] <dalyn> ok
[01:10] <zulema> bruenig: it says it's busy
[01:10] <kitche> johntheunique: but then again it's with binary software
[01:10] <CWar> me again... the same "network name no longer available" guy ... winscp did better, but still got a "connection reset by peer"
[01:10] <grubiskillingme> Slart - what was the what was the edit command in grub again?
[01:10] <ethereality> I had configured my NTFS Windows partition to automatically mount read/writeable, and my external hard drive always automatically mounted read/writeable. I installed the most recent three updates -- one of them involving the linux kernel -- and now neither of them automatically mount, and after I doubleclick on the Windows partition to mount it (/media/disk/Documents and Settings/Owner), it is back to read-only again. What went
[01:10] <ethereality> wrong and what should I do?
[01:10] <silent_> I spent 4 hours doing work with xbindkeys last night
[01:10] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: now expand the "Use a custom command" thing
[01:10] <fanch59> ty all, gotta go... c you later folks, good luck with your pcs !
[01:10] <bruenig> zulema, do pwd and paste the output in here
[01:10] <aztracker1> ror, not disagreeing.. just saying that's the biggest reason to upgrade, if at all..
[01:10] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: and in the box, put "wine "
[01:10] <aubade> There any easier way to manage file associations in Gnome?
[01:10] <zulema> bruenig: but lsof doesn't mention anything
[01:10] <ror> Vista has some nice things that XP doesn't, it has a better search tool;
[01:10] <Moduliz0r> without quotation marks
[01:10] <bruenig> zulema, do pwd and paste the output in here
[01:10] <dalyn> moduliz0r: i did
[01:10] <silent_> Moduliz0r, you're still helping dalyn? :P
[01:10] <zulema> bruenig: I'm in /media :P
[01:10] <aztracker1> ror, I like google desktop myself..
[01:10] <korny_unregister> Taxman: okay what should i rather use? i heared that the new ubuntu has the ability to install the proprietary graphicsdrivers within the livecd
[01:10] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: ok now Open
[01:11] <aubade> Well, where are associations defined for Nautilus?
[01:11] <ror> it's weird how everyone disables indexing services in windows then complains that searching is slow
[01:11] <grubiskillingme> What is the command to edit grub bootloader files?
[01:11] <ror> or everyone disables the indexing service then installs google desktop :\
[01:11] <dalyn> moduliz0r: hey it worked :)
[01:11] <bruenig> grubiskillingme, the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:11] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: Good
[01:11] <kitche> grubiskillingme: gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:11] <aztracker1> ror, true enough...  gdesktop works better than indexing service..
[01:11] <grubiskillingme> thanks
[01:11] <Taxman> korny_unregister: yeah I think so. what are you trying to do, just no moving parts. But use it for what?
[01:11] <dalyn> moduliz0r: ok, so with games like that, just go to install.exe and open it with wine?
[01:11] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: What windows progams see in C:\ is in your .wine/drive_c folder
[01:11] <johntheunique> aztracker1: is gdesktop available for xp?
[01:12] <nickrud> aubade, the simplest way to change it is right click a file and in the properties dialog select open with. I haven't seen a centralized control for that in a long time
[01:12] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: with most basic ones yes
[01:12] <kitche> aztracker1: do you mean google desktop?
[01:12] <dalyn> oh ok, one more question
[01:12] <bruenig> gdesklets are a joke
[01:12] <aztracker1> johntheunique, gdesktop == google desktop/search
[01:12] <aztracker1> bruenig, don't use them...
[01:12] <dalyn> i need java for something, but when i download it, it dont work ;/
[01:12] <ror> yes, it does work better; especially since indexing seems to be doing something *all the time*
[01:12] <zulema> bruenig: someone suggest doing umount -l /dev/hdd but the man page isn't very clear about what that does...
[01:12] <ror> still, slocate seems to work best
[01:12] <techbee> dalyn: can u tell  error msg
[01:12] <aztracker1> bruenig, I used the rss one for a while, but didn't like it.
[01:12] <kitche> aztracker1: oh that is fun definitely when it publishes all of your hard drive to google :)
[01:12] <silent_> dalyn, you can probably double-click .exes in nautilus to auto-open them in wine :)
[01:12] <aubade> nickrud: Yeah, but was curious if you had to change a list of MIME types. Guess I'll just change 'em as I go along.
[01:13] <korny_unregister> Taxman: just a pc to surf the web an stay online so nice graphics (like 1280x1024 pixels as default) would be nice
[01:13] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: I dont know about java much, so I cant help you there
[01:13] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[01:13] <aztracker1> kitche, lol... and you're worried about cool web search?
[01:13] <aubade> Only other question is if anyone remembers the package name that includes the dictionary Gnome uses. Not seeing anything particular in aptitude.
[01:13] <dalyn> moduliz0r: hok, thanks anyway:)
[01:13] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: ;)
[01:13] <Moduliz0r> If I were to reinstall windows again to my Windows partition, it would mess up my MBR and I'd need to somehow install grub again, wouldn't I?
[01:13] <bruenig> zulema, here is basically what I would do, make sure that hitting the button doesn't work, then make sure I am not in the same directory and do umount /dev/hdd, then see if maybe eject /dev/hdd will work
[01:13] <kitche> aztracker1: cool web search is different then MyWeb, but anyways I don't install any junk on my computre that I don't use anyways
[01:13] <ror> anyone else get the CRAP scared out of them by "GOOGLE WEB HISTORY"
[01:13] <silent_> Moduliz0r, I can help you reinstall grub if you need
[01:14] <dalyn> i partitioned my hard drive :)
[01:14] <ror> "search EVERY PAGE YOU'VE EVER LOOKED AT!" and that's supposed to be a GOOD THING?
[01:14] <aztracker1> kitche, me either... also, iirc it doesn't publish your hd indexes to google.
[01:14] <aubade> Nevermind, it was gnome-utils.
[01:14] <bruenig> !caps | ror
[01:14] <silent_> dalyn, good stuff, did you use gparted?
[01:14] <Moduliz0r> silent_: Thought so, Windows will install its lame one
[01:14] <ror> those caps were entirely neccessary
[01:14] <ubotu> ror: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:14] <Taxman> korny_unregister: yeah, I'm not sure. sorry
[01:14] <Moduliz0r> ror: I get scared by it too
[01:14] <dalyn> slient_: gparted? i did 50/50
[01:14] <silent_> Moduliz0r it took me a while to figure it out on my own before, but I can help you if you need it
[01:14] <korny_unregister> Taxman: okay thanks.
[01:14] <ror> wow, typing in caps certainly pokes admins o0
[01:14] <silent_> you'll kneed a knoppix or xubuntu desktop cd available though
[01:14] <Moduliz0r> silent_: No need, I'm not doing it right now anyway, I'll be back before I do
[01:14] <bruenig> ROR< IF YOU DIDN"T LOOK AT SO MUCH PORN IT WOULDN"T BE A PROBLEM
[01:15] <silent_> ubuntu/xubuntu/kubuntu*
[01:15] <dalyn> what do i use to open .bin files?
[01:15] <ror> because of course it's porn I'm worried about. Nothing to do with google knowing everything about me, then passing that over to their doubleclick department
[01:15] <bruenig> dalyn, .bin as in a binary or .bin as in a disk image
[01:15] <Moduliz0r> I have a Ubuntu Studio 7.04 disc, 2 Ubuntu 7.04 discs and a load of 6.10 ones
[01:15] <aztracker1> porn isn't a problem, just give your kids & wife their own computers.
[01:15] <ror> who needs tracking cookies when people volounteer all the info you need
[01:15] <korny_unregister> Can i turn off my harddisk?
[01:15] <ethereality> I had configured my NTFS Windows partition to automatically mount read/writeable, and my external hard drive always automatically mounted read/writeable. I installed the most recent three updates -- one of them involving the linux kernel -- and now neither of them automatically mount, and after I doubleclick on the Windows partition to mount it (/media/disk/Documents and Settings/Owner), it is back to read-only again. What went
[01:15] <ethereality> wrong and what should I do?
[01:15] <ferret_0567> I have another Linux distro on the first partition of the first drive (sda1), and I am making room for Ubuntu, and the only choice I have is for the Ubuntu partition to be on sda2. Can Ubuntu boot from sda2 when the first partition has the "boot" flag?
[01:16] <Siph0n> how do i see a list of usb devices connected to my computer? and see which codecs they are using? or if they are working properly?
[01:16] <larson9999> hmmm, applieds updates and now my machine gets hung on the fsck on bootup
[01:16] <silent_> aztracker1, or just create a script somewhere to mount it off a different partition ;P
[01:16] <kitche> ferret_0567: grub gets installed to the MBR anyways
[01:16] <pequatre> hey guys
[01:16] <dalyn> so how do i run .bin files?
[01:16] <Moduliz0r> hi
[01:16] <bruenig> ferret_0567, just make sure wherever grub is looking is configured right
[01:16] <ferret_0567> Does that mean Ubuntu will boot?
[01:16] <korny_unregister> ferret_0567 grun will do it =)
[01:16] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: is it a Linux .bin?
[01:16] <ferret_0567> ok
[01:16] <ferret_0567> thanks
[01:16] <bruenig> dalyn, .bin as in a binary or .bin as in a disk image
[01:16] <dalyn> yes
[01:16] <aztracker1> silent_, my bios has a boot option to choose which hd to boot from.. ;)
[01:16] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: is it the java setup?
[01:16] <shawn_selig29> hi guys
[01:16] <dalyn> yes :P
[01:17] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: get to it on the terminal
[01:17] <bruenig> hmm, a binary then
[01:17] <MISTERTibbs> yoyo
[01:17] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: if its on the desktop it will be in /home/yourname/Desktop
[01:17] <qqn661> shawn_selig29, hi
[01:17] <korny_unregister> Okay i have a simple question: Can i turn off my harddrive?
[01:17] <ror> chmod foo.bin then ./foo.bin
[01:17] <silent_> ugh... I havent slept for 31 hours... rough
[01:17] <ror> will execute the file
[01:17] <bruenig> dalyn, java is in the repositories, better to get it there
[01:17] <ror> err, chmod +x foo.bin
[01:17] <Moduliz0r> chmod a+x file.bin first
[01:17] <qqn661> silent_, time to go to sleep
[01:17] <shawn_selig29> i'm thing baout installing ubuntu on all 4 of my pc's....but i got a question... does it run faster then windows?
[01:17] <qqn661> seriously
[01:18] <silent_> qqn661, I need to aptitude -purge insomnia
[01:18] <silent_> ;P
[01:18] <ror> shawn_selig29, depends the task; it's pretty nifty though
[01:18] <Moduliz0r> shawn_selig29: Yes, on most systems
[01:18] <qqn661> shawn_selig29, it depends on billions of things
[01:18] <Moduliz0r> shawn_selig29: Well it does for me
[01:18] <dalyn> i feel like an idiot, but where is resportories?
[01:18] <silent_> they are on the intarbutt
[01:18] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: why?
[01:18] <ror> linux is easier to maintain, it doesn't suffer after a few years of having junk installed like windows does
[01:18] <pequatre> does anyone know how to bind certain protocols to some apps in firefox. for instance when clicking on a "Skype" link in firefox i get an error message saying no protocol is associated with the "skype://" url's. do you know where you set that ?
[01:18] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: im not sure >.<
[01:18] <dalyn> cause somebody said i could get it from their :/
[01:19] <Moduliz0r> some sources.list file
[01:19] <grndslm> dalyn: yes you can
[01:19] <ror> just reinstalled my parents windows; it went from being really slow to really fast just because there were 3 years of installed rubbish left in the registry/services/startup before
[01:19] <grndslm> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:19] <qqn661> dalyn, they are internet servers
[01:19] <grndslm> dalyn: ^
[01:19] <Moduliz0r> dalyn: did you manage to run the bin file or do you need help with it?
[01:19] <dalyn> grndslm: how do i get  repositories
[01:19] <silent_> dalyn, I really think you should look into your current OS before you start fooling around/installing new stuff
[01:19] <silent_> you should know what a repository is before you install anything via apt
[01:19] <Moduliz0r> yeah I agree with that
[01:19] <Moduliz0r> Or
[01:19] <silent_> just my $0.02
[01:20] <ror> use synaptic for a good intermediate step
[01:20] <Moduliz0r> use Synaptic, its easier
[01:20] <Moduliz0r> yeah
[01:20] <grndslm> nah... sudo nano is way more fun
[01:20] <astomper> dalyn: goto system-admin-synaptic
[01:20] <underwatercow> join #c++
[01:20] <nickrud> eh, dalyn have fun, breaking things is a fine way to learn what can be broken :)
[01:20] <silent_> grndslm, use 'sudo su'... live life on the edge
[01:21] <ianm_> nickrud: so is reading this channel :D
[01:21] <Hellevator> nickrud, and how to fix it. If you're lucky.
[01:21] <Hajiki> hey im trying to change some Eclipse settings, like the the splash and the icons. But i cant find the Eclipse Splash Screen, can you help me???
[01:21] <qqn661> underwatercow, cout << "\";
[01:21] <grndslm> silent_:  i use sudo -s...prolly about the same
[01:21] <underwatercow> lol
[01:21] <qqn661> ;)
[01:21] <astomper> dalyn: then under the settings menu you can enable them
[01:21] <underwatercow> qqn661: I noticed I missed that
[01:21] <Mutantx> Is there a way to show/hide applications or mounting a share folder depending on what group the user belongs to?
[01:21] <Hellevator> Hajiki, did you install eclipse manually or from the repository
[01:21] <nickrud> ianm_, Hellevator I broke many things many times :0
[01:21] <silent_> or just enable a password and login for root....
[01:21] <silent_> that's how pros roll
[01:21] <ianm_> nickrud: me too, especially back on slackware heh!
[01:22] <astomper> How do I change my root password?
[01:22] <ianm_> nickrud: with apt it's harder to break, easier to fix!
[01:22] <Hajiki> Hellevator: from the repository
[01:22] <qqn661> ianm_, i'm downloading that 3gb monster as we speak
[01:22] <ror> astomper, sudo passwd root
[01:22] <Taxman> what are the parameters to dd to pull an iso image file off of a 7.04 disc?
[01:22] <silent_> i wouldnt advise it... but 'sudo passwd root'
[01:22] <nickrud> hah, slack is for slackers: the pre fork linux from scratch, that's a back breaker
[01:22] <astomper> thx ror
[01:22] <ianm_> qqn661: slack?? why
[01:22] <ror> but why would you want to? root isn't even set on ubuntu
[01:22] <grndslm> is this a good enough sources.list:  http://pastebin.ca/517091 ???  dalyn.... your sources.list should look something like this
[01:22] <ror> it's designed to be maintained via sudo
[01:22] <ror> just take off the password prompt for sudo
[01:22] <Moduliz0r> guys take a look here: http://user.pixplanet.net/1/Funny/woman.jpg
[01:22] <^BiplanO^> hi all
[01:22] <kritzstapf> astomper: why do you need to change your root  password?
[01:22] <underwatercow> can someone help me to install a program using configure and make? I have never had much success... when I run make, it says something about "install-recursive"
[01:22] <kitche> nickrud: slackware is the oldest distro
[01:22] <qqn661> ianm_, because i'm about to install it?
[01:22] <ferret_0567> Do some BIOS not like 4 primary partitions?
[01:22] <^BiplanO^> anyone testing gutsy and using amsn?
[01:23] <ianm_> qqn661: yeah I figured, and the full question was, Why would you want to use slackware? :)
[01:23] <nickrud> kitche, I know, I ran it for a bit, until I knew enough to run debian reliably
[01:23] <cables> ferret_0567, you simply can't have more than 4 primary partitions.
[01:23] <ferret_0567> oh
[01:23] <silent_> underwatercow, the software isn't available in packages?
[01:23] <ferret_0567> ok
[01:23] <astomper> I set it as 1 when I installed, easy to remember
[01:23] <ror> slackware was the best distro a couple of years ago
[01:23] <qqn661> ianm_, i just want to try slackware 11
[01:23] <Taxman> underwatercow: did you read the readme's? They ususually tell you the make targets
[01:23] <ror> but it's just not got the slickness it used to
[01:23] <ferret_0567> 4 primary partitions is fine for me
[01:23] <astomper> I set it as 1 when I installed, easy to remember kritzstapf
[01:23] <nickrud> anyway, it's fun to learn, and it's only software
[01:23] <ferret_0567> I don't need any more
[01:23] <nickrud> break away, I say
[01:23] <kritzstapf> astomper: i dont even know the root password of my machine
[01:23] <kitche> nickrud: yeah it's all about preference in the free software world
[01:24] <Moduliz0r> ugh, im really tired but I ARE NOT going to bed
[01:24] <ferret_0567> If I needed more, I'd delete /home and create a extended partition in it's place
[01:24] <silent_> nickrud, If I had a system without important data on it, I'd be a little more careless and probably learn a lot :P
[01:24] <ror> astomper, ubuntu shouldn't set root password when it installs
[01:24] <Moduliz0r> I broke the swingball set :|
[01:24] <dantheredbomb> Moduliz0r - was that the correct answer?
[01:24] <ianm_> Moduliz0r: and we am not going to correct your english
[01:24] <astomper> umm... I meant to change the main users passwd
[01:24] <silent_> astomper, I advise you to not enable root password
[01:24] <Moduliz0r> lol
[01:24] <silent_> but if you have to, 'sudo passwd root'
[01:24] <Moduliz0r> I broke the swingball set by hitting it too hard
[01:25] <cables> astomper, there is no main user... do you mean YOUR user?
[01:25] <Moduliz0r> I was having a really fast paced game
[01:25] <cables> astomper, your user is not root.
[01:25] <zero> hi can i get some help of php and sendmail program that is supposed to be installed on my computer
[01:25] <Moduliz0r> and then
[01:25] <Moduliz0r> the ball flew off into the hedge somewhere
[01:25] <zero> i user of ubuntu feisty
[01:25] <astomper> cables, yeah, my password
[01:25] <silent_> I made my hostname Linux... how bland is that?
[01:25] <Hellevator> Hajiki, I know eclipse installs in /usr/lib/eclipse/  you might try digging around in that folder and see if you can find anything
[01:25] <zero> im*
[01:25] <ianm_> qqn661: mm masochist?  have fun
[01:25] <ror> astomper, then just use passwd username
[01:25] <Moduliz0r> silent_: very
[01:25] <underwatercow> silent_, Taxman: I followed the directions in the readme and it doesn't work
[01:25] <Moduliz0r> silent_: naming it computer would even more distasteful
[01:26] <astomper> ror, ok can I disable root pass?
[01:26] <adaptr> no
[01:26] <cables> astomper, if you want to do it through a GUI, use System>Administration>Users and Groups
[01:26] <Hajiki> Hellevator: thanks a lot
[01:26] <silent_> Moduliz0r, It will be done
[01:26] <Moduliz0r> silent: lol
[01:26] <silent_> Computer it is
[01:26] <zero> help
[01:26] <zero> help!
[01:26] <Moduliz0r> Now I need to think of a rediculous hostname
[01:26] <Moduliz0r> My one is actually called moduliz0r atm
[01:26] <ror> Moduliz0r, I name mine after philosophers, I have descartes, aristotle, socrates
[01:26] <zero> how can i install a sendmail server?, im trying to send mails with php!
[01:26] <Moduliz0r> lo
[01:26] <Taxman> underwatercow: usually when you have makefiles and stuff like that they need to be ported for your distro. Find a deb that's already ported and your life will be easier
[01:26] <Moduliz0r> l
[01:26] <rafee> What is gksu?
[01:27] <zero> how can i install a sendmail server?, im trying to send mails with php!
[01:27] <ror> for hostnames the trick is to pick a theme
[01:27] <Moduliz0r> I really need to start thinking of good hostnames
[01:27] <ror> try colours, capitols
[01:27] <kitche> zero: sudo apt-get install sendmail
[01:27] <ror> anything
[01:27] <Moduliz0r> I want something rediculous
[01:27] <kitche> !repeat | zero
[01:27] <ubotu> zero: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:27] <underwatercow> Taxman: lol... I'll try... one sec
[01:27] <rio_> Moduliz0r: just use the name of the simpsons-kids or sth :)
[01:27] <Moduliz0r> bart?
[01:27] <kitche> rafee: graphical sudo pretty much
[01:27] <rio_> maggy!
[01:27] <Moduliz0r> XD
[01:27] <Moduliz0r> bart it is
[01:27] <rio_> homer
[01:27] <rafee> kitche: thanks
[01:28] <dantheredbomb> Use dog food brands
[01:28] <rio_> Moduliz0r: or moe would be nice too
[01:28] <underwatercow> Taxman: what I'm actually trying to do is get a hearts game other than hearts gnome... my dad doesn't like how it requires so much clicking and there doesn't seem to be an option to change it
[01:28] <Moduliz0r> It is set with the Network Settings>General right?
[01:28] <dantheredbomb> Kibbles_n_bits, Purina, etc...
[01:28] <zero> kitche: how can integret it with php?, do i have to configure something?
[01:28] <cheeseboy> wats gui app for setting up network/internet?
[01:28] <Moduliz0r> no, im naming it phillip
[01:28] <ror> gnome-network-manager
[01:28] <zero> ubotu: ok... sorry
[01:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok... sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <rio_> Moduliz0r: dont know the gui-way, its in /etc/hostname i think
[01:29] <kitche> zero: just have to use the mail() function
[01:29] <Taxman> underwatercow: look for hearts games that are available for Ubuntu. search in synaptic
[01:29] <zero> kitche: ok, i'll try it, thx
[01:29] <underwatercow> Taxman: I did and that was the only one I found
[01:29] <underwatercow> Taxman: that's why I was trying to download another from the net
[01:29] <Moduliz0r> brb - reboot time
[01:29] <Taxman> well you'll still need one that's already ported for Ubuntu
[01:30] <Taxman> unless you want to port it or get someone to port it for you
[01:30] <kitche> Taxman: umm if it's linux compatible it will work in ubuntu
[01:30] <Moduliz0r> Im logged in with phillip!
[01:30] <Taxman> kitche: in theory yes, but if the make is failing, not necessarily
[01:31] <pirothezero> does anyone hot swap sata drives in ubuntu or linux ?
[01:31] <Moduliz0r> now im going to tell my friends im playing with phillip :D
[01:31] <Moduliz0r> their responses... lol
[01:31] <fogwar> bayles
[01:32] <ryanakca> ctrl:swapcaps switches caps lock with my left ctrl key. How do I make it swap with my right ctrl key?
[01:32] <pietro10> Hi again
[01:33] <pietro10> Does anyone here know how to get the iMac built-in mic to work?
[01:33] <groove> anyone know where network-manager-gnome stores network details?
[01:33] <Zelian> hi everyone!
[01:33] <ubuntu-rocks> anyone here got ssl working with feisty?
[01:34] <kitche> Taxman: port means redoing the code to make it work so you actually said it wrong so I technially fixed what you said
[01:34] <Zelian> can someone help me with a grub error i get while booting?
[01:34] <dru> This disc contains a "UDF" file system and requires an operating system
[01:34] <dru> that supports the ISO-13346 "UDF" file system specification.
[01:34] <pietro10> What is the error Zelian?
[01:34] <dru> someone help?
[01:34] <Siph0n> i see a program , but cant run it..... it says "iprc_tx: command not found"
[01:34] <pietro10> oh boy
[01:35] <pietro10> I don't know
[01:35] <happyponcho> Are there any other viideoe editors except Cinelerra and Jahshaka.
[01:35] <pietro10> Siph0n: search for it in Synaptic
[01:35] <techbee> good night
[01:35] <techbee> :)
[01:35] <pietro10> Kino
[01:35] <Siph0n> i also try to do ./iprc_tx and i get cannot execute bianry file
[01:35] <Zelian> pietro10: whenever i boot i got "grub loading stage 1.5. Please wait"
[01:35] <Siph0n> this program isnt in synaptic...
[01:35] <Zelian> pietro10: and it just hangs there
[01:35] <pietro10> OK, one at a time
[01:35] <devil> how can i get ubuntu to play dvds i burnt on it
[01:35] <zero> kitche: do i have to run sendmail, or i just use mail()
[01:35] <pietro10> Zelian: ask the grub people (try #grub)
[01:35] <happyponcho> Kino isn't eexactly on par with those two, lacks a lot of functionality.
[01:36] <pietro10> Siph0n: I don't know then
[01:36] <Zelian> pietro10: k, thanks
[01:36] <nickrud> groove, it keeps at least some of it in apps/system/networking (access it with gconf-editor)
[01:36] <zero> kitche: because it did not seems to work
[01:36] <fogwar> hi, noob question, but how do i set file extentions? like .mp3 to play from realplayer, etc
[01:36] <pietro10> devil: you need libdvdnav, libdvdplay, and libdvdread
[01:36] <groove> nickrud: i've done a gconf-tool --dump and can find any of the settings
[01:36] <kitche> zero: read the php docs on their site for the mail function
[01:36] <pietro10> haappyponcho: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_editing_software
[01:36] <kitche> zero: and sendmail needs to be running
[01:37] <pietro10> There is one more and I don't remember which one it was
[01:37] <devil> it isent detecting a dvd
[01:37] <pietro10> Oh yeah it was LiVES
[01:37] <pietro10> Oh yeah it was LiVES
[01:37] <pietro10> devil: do you have a DVD drive?
[01:37] <zero> kitche: i just run it     "sendmail"    over the bash
[01:37] <nickrud> groove, a couple of wireless networks I've defined are in there; network-manager is black magic for me at the moment
[01:37] <taime1> Does Anyone Know Why I Am Recieving This Error In OpenOffice: 'Graphics filter not found' ?
[01:37] <kitche> zero: start the init script sudo /etc/init.d/sendmail start
[01:37] <devil> it detects the dvd intill i burn something on it so yes
[01:38] <pietro10> Did you try ejecting the DVD then putting it back in?
[01:38] <pietro10> happyponcho: did you see LiVES?
[01:38] <devil> yep
[01:39] <pietro10> ok then it must be a hardware problem
[01:39] <pietro10> happyponcho: I also don't know about CinePaint's capabilities
[01:39] <groove> nickrud: actually, i can't find /apps/system at all ...
[01:39] <groove> this is under feisty
[01:40] <nickrud> groove, sorry, system is a top level tree, drop the app (I type that from muscle memory, I guess)
[01:41] <pietro10> Does anyone know how to get the mic in iMac working?
[01:41] <devil> so anyone know how i can get my dvd burner to read the disks it burns
[01:41] <groove> nickrud: no /system/networking either
[01:41] <pietro10> I still think that's a hardware problem if your DVD burner can't leave burn mode
[01:41] <pietro10> Did you try rebooting?
[01:42] <nickrud> groove, maybe it's only there because I defined some wireless networks ...
[01:42] <fogwar> nickrud: hey man not to bother, but i'm trying to get all my .mp3 files to play thru realplayer-- how do i set my file extentions?
[01:42] <groove> i have networks defined
[01:42] <devil> i could but it reads pressed dvds fine
[01:42] <groove> in fact, the weird thing is i have two network-manager icons up the top
[01:42] <pietro10> ok so then it is either a misburnt DVD or a problem with your DVD label
[01:42] <devil> and blank ones
[01:42] <nickrud> fogwar, I'd try right clicking an mp3 file, selecting the open with tab, and setting it there
[01:42] <groove> and each one displays different networks
[01:43] <devil> dvd lable?
[01:43] <fogwar> nickrud: yeah, but it doesnt set all mp3s that way
[01:43] <jessica> hey everyone i was wondering if its possible to download photoshop on an ubuntu computer?
[01:43] <groove> one shows networks i defined before the upgrade to feisty, and one show networks i defined after
[01:43] <ComputinChuck> anyone know how to take advantage of a pci express graphics card?  i've got an nvidia card on pci express but ubuntu's using the agp drivers
[01:43] <nickrud> fogwar, select properties at the bottom after right clicking (sorry, left that step out)
[01:44] <kitche> ComputinChuck: you sure it's agp drivers since agpart is needed
[01:44] <RampageAI> Maybe ndiswrapper the pci-e drivers if there is a Windows version.  I don't know if that works in Ubuntu.
[01:44] <masterloki> !paste
[01:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:44] <fogwar> nickrud: badass.. now one last question i know its gonna kill ya but what about these damn mma'
[01:44] <nickrud> groove, I'm thinking about ditching network manager for a while. I don't understand it, and don't have the inclination to learn
[01:44] <fogwar> nickrud: wma files, and how do i get them to run, esp in firefox
[01:44] <ComputinChuck> kitche, the agpgart module is being used by the nvidia module
[01:45] <nickrud> !restricted | fogwar
[01:45] <ubotu> fogwar: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:45] <kitche> ComputinChuck: well apggart is needed for the nvidia module
[01:45] <ComputinChuck> hmm
[01:45] <kitche> ComputinChuck: even if it's pci express
[01:45] <pietro10> ubotu: will that help me with my problem with my iMac mic?
[01:45] <devil> could my dvd problems be from gnomebaker? ive never had a problem with it before
[01:45] <pietro10> never mind ubotu
[01:45] <pietro10> devil: I'm not really sure anymore
[01:45] <kitche> ComputinChuck: every computer has a agp bus even if they don't have a slot for agp
[01:46] <PriceChild> pietro10, ubotu is a bot ;)
[01:46] <groove> nickrud: what will you use to change networks then?
[01:46] <nickrud> fogwar, there are better methods of playing mp3's, that page will help with that an just about all media
[01:46] <ComputinChuck> kitche, why is that?
[01:46] <nickrud> groove, I used iwconfig and scripts a couple years ago, I might dust that off. I just started using a laptop again
[01:47] <ShpxLbh_uk> hello, I'v got question, when I will delete etc/fstab, after restart, will ubuntu recovery and mount my partitions ?
[01:47] <taime1> Im sick of people always saying, "use free formats" anyone who has ever used a computer has paid enough royalties to M$ for a lifetime. i say enjoy restricted formats, God knows you've paid for it
[01:47] <KevinOman> hello im trying to make a program start when I start the computer
[01:47] <pietro10> NO.
[01:47] <nickrud> groove, also I used something called wifi-radar, it's still around but I haven't tried it recently
[01:47] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, no
[01:47] <Pelo> KevinOman,   menu > system > prefs > session
[01:47] <pietro10> what he said
[01:48] <groove> nickrud, well thanks for your help anyway
[01:48] <KevinOman> to start the program manually I type webcam-server in the command line
[01:48] <tapas> KevinOman: or have a look at the init scripts
[01:48] <nickrud> groove, I was kinda hoping you'd end up showing me :)
[01:48] <pietro10> enter webcam-server in the command section
[01:48] <KevinOman> pelo I added a new session with the command of webcam-server, but when I bootup its gone
[01:48] <Pelo> taime1, mp3 is owned by RCA Thomson,  MS doesn'T get a dime,  in fact they've had to pay some
[01:48] <pietro10> So that Command reads "webcam-server"
[01:48] <tapas> KevinOman: the tip Pelo gave you will start the program when you login, not nessecrily when you start the computer..
[01:48] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: so what I can do to mount my partitions? because I edited my fstab file by nano and something was broken, and after restrt I have not any partitions ntfs
[01:48] <pietro10> werid
[01:48] <KevinOman> pietro10:  I do but when I login its gone
[01:49] <taime1> Pelo, i see what you are saying, but when i purchase windows, it plays mp3s which means the royalty was covered :)
[01:49] <pietro10> OK, Kevin, go to your terminal and type "which webcam-server" and hit ENTER
[01:49] <pietro10> what does it say?
[01:49] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, post the contents of /etc/fstab on paste.ubuntu-nl.org , along with the output of sudo fdisk -l
[01:49] <Pelo> KevinOman, it's a bit tricky since they added the "save this session" stuff ,  try adding your prog and saving from the 3rd tab
[01:49] <PriceChild> taime1, windows doesn't play mp3s by default ;)
[01:49] <rafee> I'm trying to update ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 on server. I'm getting error with do-release-upgrade
[01:49] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, I'll help you get that back
[01:49] <groove> nickrud: main problem i'm facing is that i can't see where it stores the settings
[01:49] <kitche> ComputinChuck: the onboard video actually uses agpgart to work correctly in linux at least that's what I got from wikipedia but I know if you turn off the agpgart module with sudo rmmod agpgart the nvidia module might act funny
[01:49] <rafee> Can anyone help-me with this upgrade?
[01:49] <KevinOman> pelo kevin@ubuntu:~$ which webcam-server
[01:49] <KevinOman> /usr/bin/webcam-server
[01:49] <KevinOman> kevin@ubuntu:~$
[01:49] <pietro10> Ubuntu was notorious for update problems
[01:50] <pietro10> Ok, then just type /usr/bin/webcam-server in the Command section
[01:50] <pietro10> Tell us what happens then
[01:50] <KevinOman> ok :)
[01:50] <taime1> PriceChild: funny, i dont remember being charged to implement that feature in windows, so why in ubuntu?
[01:50] <RampageAI> Can anyone offer an opinion on how well/poorly Ubuntu will run on a P4 1.6Ghz with 512mb RAM?
[01:50] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22999/
[01:50] <PriceChild> taime1, you would have had to download the codecs at some point even if you didnt' know it.
[01:50] <Pelo> KevinOman, in the session thingy, just put the command line you use to start the webcam
[01:51] <taime1> PriceChild: thats my point... the format was free...
[01:51] <KevinOman> pelo , tried that but after I log back in its gone
[01:51] <Pelo> KevinOman,  you do understand I am giving you gui instructions, not cli ones , if you want to do it in cli    cd ~/.config/autostart     copy one on he files there and edit it
[01:51] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, and you have *no* /etc/fstab at all?
[01:51] <taime1> I can still appreciate openformats. I wish there was a file sharing network that only shared openformats, that would be awesome
[01:51] <fogwar> nickrud: hey, when i do  that, do i need to use a certain program to play the wma files after i installed?
[01:52] <pietro10> Did you try doing the absolute path yet?
[01:52] <KevinOman> I just put /usr/bin/webcam-server as the comand
[01:52] <pietro10> pelo is giving you the relative path
[01:52] <nickrud> fogwar, that page will walk you through the various apps that can, yes
[01:52] <Pelo> KevinOman, ok taht might be part of a bug with autostart,  check the forum for help on it , I haven'T had a chance to look it up myself
[01:52] <ComputinChuck> kitche, well, linux won't let you take it out if it's being used..
[01:52] <Surf24> Hello everyone I'm trying Chatzilla to see if it works
[01:52] <KevinOman> pelo right, under system>preferences>sessions
[01:52] <KevinOman> tits gone when I log back in
[01:52] <Pelo> KevinOman,  if i is in a bin folder you don'T need the full path
[01:52] <KevinOman> its*
[01:53] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23000/   there is my fstab file, but in /media there is only empty folders
[01:53] <KevinOman> hmm there's something wrong then pelo
[01:53] <Pelo> KevinOman, like I said there is a bug with the damed session thing
[01:53] <LjL> !away > AresiAWAY    (AresiAWAY, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:53] <KevinOman> ahh
[01:53] <yanger> is there a reason to upgrade kernel? is there a way to hide it from the update manager?
[01:53] <LjL> yanger: it's a security update, you should normally do it.
[01:53] <KevinOman> is there any way to get around the bug pelo ?
[01:54] <Pelo> KevinOman,  most of my stuff works because it was imported from edgy,  but when I make modificatisons, it don'T start anymore
[01:54] <kludge> hi i have a 1.44 gb swap partition that never works! for some reason my ram never goes to swap, which causes my pc to crash! how do i make my partition drive work and is 1.44gb big enough please?
[01:54] <yanger> ahh...
[01:54] <cheeseboi> wats app for configuring network gui?
[01:54] <gesus> hey there -- wondering if anyone could give me a hand installing a plugin for GAIM? I have d/l the plugin (MySpaceIM plugin) but just not sure how to compile it.  Thankyou #ubuntu helpers as always.
[01:54] <Pelo> KevinOman, I haven'T found one yet
[01:54] <Jordan_U> yanger, Why don't you want to update the kernel?
[01:54] <pietro10> kludge: how much RAM do you have?
[01:54] <LjL> kludge: what's the /etc/fstab entry for that partition like?
[01:55] <yanger> i usually wait a lil longer before upgrading kernels... usually new versions come with good things, and sometimes bad things??
[01:55] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, you do have ntfs-3g installed?
[01:55] <zero> kitche: well thx for the help, im not sure what's wrong maybe i read php's docs later
[01:55] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: yep
[01:55] <RAOF> yanger: You can always boot your old kernel if the new one doesn't work.
[01:55] <yanger> or does this theory not work in ubuntu?
[01:55] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, dpkg -l ntfs-3g to double check: if the first two characters are ii, it's installed
[01:55] <pietro10> Well, at least Kevin got his problem fixed
[01:55] <Jordan_U> yanger, You can always select the old kernel with GRUB
[01:55] <fogwar> what is linux ppc vs linux alpha??? which one is ubuntu 6 lol
[01:55] <gesus> hey there -- wondering if anyone could give me a hand installing a plugin for GAIM? I have d/l the plugin (MySpaceIM plugin) but just not sure how to compile it.  Thankyou #ubuntu helpers as always.
[01:56] <LjL> yanger, this is not a kernel straight from kernel.org. it's a security update *from* the Ubuntu maintainers
[01:56] <pietro10> kludge needs to change his/her nick
[01:56] <cheeseboi> wats app for configuring network gui?
[01:56] <M_Fatih> how can i downgrade a mp3's bitrate, i want to minimalize my mp3 files for my mp3player
[01:56] <yanger> LjL, i see... :) ok then :)
[01:56] <cheeseboi> ????
[01:56] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: yes it's installed
[01:56] <KevinOman> pelo do you know where the autostart programs are located?
[01:57] <yanger> i jus remembered that one time when kernel updated, but nvidia didn't and some commotion until they added a fix somewhere..
[01:57] <Pelo> KevinOman,  ~/.config/autostart
[01:57] <RAOF> fogwar: I don't quite understand your question.  Ubuntu 6.06 PPC/Alpha/i386/AMD64 is Ubuntu 6.06 for the PPC/Alpha/i386/AMD64 processor types respectively.
[01:57] <Jordan_U> M_Fatih, Taking something already encoded in a lossy codec ( MP3 ) and re encoding it ( more loss ) is going to give pretty poor results, let alone re-encoding at a lower bitrate
[01:57] <gesus> i'll try later then
[01:58] <groove> nickrud: aha, the old version of network-admin (run from /usr/bin/network-admin) stores its details in ~/.gnome2/network-admin-locations
[01:58] <M_Fatih> Jordan_U: but i'm not ripping, i have mp3 files only
[01:58] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, ok, I'm interested in a couple of error messages: type sudo umount /media/sda2 ; if it says it's not mounted, then type sudo mount /media/sda2
[01:58] <Jordan_U> M_Fatih, I know, that is why I am saying you will likely get bad results
[01:59] <nickrud> groove, one step closer :)
[01:59] <groove> but that was from edgy anyway
[01:59] <groove> i was just trying to find out how to get rid of it
[01:59] <groove> since the two were out of sync
[02:00] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23001/
[02:00] <pietro10> I'd still like to know how to get my iMac's mic working!
[02:00] <usr_rob> i'm at gnomefiles.org now, need a cd-burning application, i have used gnomebaker & xcdroast before, what are your experience, what is the "best" application for the most common burning types?
[02:00] <keifer> would anyone have an idea why i'm stuck with 16bit depth, even though 24 bit is default (running fglrx)
[02:00] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, I'd do what it says :)
[02:00] <Jordan_U> yanger, The only time I remember that happening ( kernel getting upgraded without the Nvidia modules ) was during development, something like that would never happen on a stable release
[02:01] <cheeseboy> how i install network-admin?
[02:01] <pietro10> keifer: check your video card settings
[02:01] <Surf24> Try K3b
[02:01] <pietro10> cheeseboy: what do you mean by network admin?
[02:01] <Jordan_U> cheeseboy, It should be there by default
[02:01] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, if you don't want to boot windows, I'd do option 2
[02:01] <cheeseboy> the gui for it
[02:01] <KevinOman> pelo ok thanks for your help. I created a custom launcher and put it in the autostart folder
[02:01] <usr_rob> Surf24: k3b is kde, thx anyway
[02:01] <pietro10> ok: System > Administration > Network
[02:01] <Pelo> KevinOman,  I haven'T tried it like that , hope it works for you , let me know
[02:02] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: so use force ?
[02:02] <pietro10> There you go
[02:02] <KevinOman> pelo it does work
[02:02] <Jordan_U> cheeseboy, run "network-admin" in the terminal or open System -> Administration -> network
[02:02] <KevinOman> :)
[02:02] <pietro10> yay Kevin!
[02:02] <Pelo> KevinOman,  cool
[02:02] <KevinOman> pelo pietro10 thanks guys
[02:03] <keifer> pietro10, "driver" is "fglrx" and "PseudoColourVisuals" is "off".
[02:03] <silvertip257> I'm trying to customize a LiveCD based on (X)Ubuntu, but I'm having trouble getting good documentation
[02:03] <compaq2> hola
[02:03] <Pelo> !es | compaq2
[02:03] <ubotu> compaq2: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:03] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, I'm real protective of my ntfs partition in linux. I don't use ntfs-3g yet, it's not ready for my prime time. I'd do the double boot because I'm very conservative
[02:03] <Jordan_U> silverblade, Do you know how to use chroot / what it is?
[02:03] <compaq2> gracias
[02:04] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, and then go browse the net, trying to figure out why ntfs-3g needs a hack like that
[02:04] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: okey. so you think that after boot windows and back to ubuntu, I'll can mount partitions ?
[02:04] <Surf24> KDE aps will work wirth gnome.
[02:04] <nickrud> ShpxLbh_uk, like it says, boot twice.
[02:05] <ShpxLbh_uk> nickrud: cheers, bye :)
[02:05] <usr_rob> Surf24: i know. don't want to mix kde/gnome
[02:05] <RampageAI> What would be a good comparison of Ubuntu vs Freespire anyone?
[02:05] <Surf24> I have had no problem mixing
[02:05] <fogwar> woo
[02:05] <fogwar> i got it! lol
[02:05] <pietro10> Does Gaim support the Compose key?
[02:05] <pietro10> yay fogwar
[02:05] <fogwar> question is, now will it work in the browser?
[02:06] <KevinOman> pietro10:  there is pidgin now, the predecessor to gaim it has some new functions
[02:06] <monstarmike> hello all, what do I need to apt-get to use the NVIDIA binary installer.  It says I need that I need libc.
[02:07] <pietro10> sudo apt-get libc
[02:07] <pietro10> Yes kevin but my system still uses gaim
[02:07] <monstarmike> is that all I need or do I need to get the whole compiler deal
[02:07] <xMore> I have a question about video drivers and getting Ubuntu installed because of certain errors
[02:07] <KevinOman> pietro10:  so does mine I have both of them :)
[02:07] <monstarmike> what I mean isn't there a package that contains a bunch of the common libs
[02:08] <pietro10> In that case, just get it from synaptic
[02:08] <nickrud> monstarmike, install build-essential
[02:08] <nickrud> monstarmike, compiler & some essential lib support :)
[02:08] <Pelo> xMore,  what is the actual queston ?
[02:08] <Jordan_U> monstarmike, Don't use the NVIDIA binary installer! You don't need to
[02:08] <pietro10> Better yet, get glibc
[02:09] <monstarmike> thanks, nickrud.  That was what I think I'm looking for.  The NVIDIA installer crashes just asking for libc
[02:09] <aquarius> if I copied a file with cp and it aborted half way through, can I "resume" the copy and just copy the remainder, in the way tht wget can "resume" http downloads?
[02:09] <nickrud> monstarmike, but notice what Jordan_U said as well.
[02:09] <groove> nickrud: hmm, seems the network manager in feisty is simply running through gksu, therefore the settings are stored in /root/.gnome2/network-admin-locations
[02:09] <Surf24> K3b actually works on my gnome and gnomebaker doesn't
[02:09] <groove> nickrud: can you see your settings in that location?
[02:09] <xMore> I have an nVidia GeForce 5200 installed, Intel onboard is disabled, has been. When I go to install Ubuntu, it's recognizing the onboard video and not my nVidia card, therefore X is having issues. I can't figure out how to tell it to use my nVidia card on initial setup.
[02:10] <Jordan_U> monstarmike, Unless you know you need the newest version use the restricted driver manager instead, it is supprted and won't break every time there is a kernel update ( like today :)
[02:10] <nickrud> groove, oh, now that really sucks, I don't automatically back up that dir
[02:10] <Pelo> xMore,  you can't on setup , activate your onboard intel card,   install ubuntu then reactivate the nvidia one and install the nvidia drivers
[02:10] <monstarmike> right, well I'm fixing a botched setup.  Someone tried to install/compile the ATI drivers and when busted went to the NVIDIA.  I think they had the NVIDIA installer run once before
[02:10] <nickrud> groove, and explicitly, yes
[02:11] <ryanakca> RampageAI: it should work quite well on that hardware
[02:11] <xMore> Pelo>> Thank you. Doing that was a last resort, but it looks like I have no choice . . thank you .. =D
[02:11] <aquarius> alternatively, can I copy only the last N bytes of a file?
[02:11] <Five_star> hello
[02:11] <groove> nickrud: well, it works for me anyway, i mainly wanted to know where the settings were
[02:11] <groove> all i've gotta do now is get it working nicely with wpa_supplicant
[02:11] <Pelo> xMore,  he last resort is using the alternate install cd, which is text based and cares not about the video driver
[02:11] <Five_star> I just installed the nvidia drivers and restarded X, but it's saying there's no compatable devices
[02:12] <Five_star> so now I'm chilling in irssi in terminal mode
[02:12] <Five_star> without x
[02:12] <nickrud> groove, I have a better idea of what it's doing, now that I see how it's saving. Thanks
[02:12] <Five_star> sigh, installing ubuntu is an adventure every time for me
[02:12] <monstarmike> is there a kernel sources package?
[02:12] <AresiAWAY> !nickspam
[02:12] <ubotu> You should avoid changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users. The same goes for using noisy away messages (see !Away for more details): use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently
[02:13] <Surf24> Can you defrag HD in Ubuntu?
[02:13] <LjL> !info linux-source | monstarmike
[02:13] <ubotu> monstarmike: linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20.16.28.1 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[02:13] <cables> Surf24, you don't have to
[02:13] <monstarmike> thanks
[02:13] <Five_star> I was getting ready to install beryl and after I installed the nvidia drivers and went to restart X it froze, so I restarted to discover that it's not finding my graphics card or something
[02:13] <pietro10> !info microphone | pietro10
[02:13] <Surf24> Why ?
[02:13] <LjL> Surf24: it's mostly not necessary, as ext3 tries (and usually succeeds) to keep fragmentation to a minimum
[02:13] <cables> Surf24, Ext3 doesn't get fragmented like Windows filesystems do.
[02:14] <pietro10> Surf24: long story
[02:14] <ComputinChuck> i'm having some trouble with gnome startup.  the splash screen hangs around for a really long time .. seems like a program is causing the process to hang
[02:14] <nickrud> Five_star, take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log , if you haven't already
[02:14] <RampageAI> !info requirements | RampageAI
[02:14] <Surf24> Sounds good was worried about junk
[02:14] <LjL> Surf24: there is a "defrag" package available, however it's been unmaintained for long and used to work for ext2 only. it works with ext3 now, but i guess it can still be a little dangerous.
[02:14] <LjL> !info defrag | Surf24
[02:14] <Five_star> nickrud: I did, and it said that it couldn't find the device, and that a screen couldn't be made or w/e
[02:14] <ubotu> surf24: defrag: ext2, minix and xiafs filesystem defragmenter. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.73pjm1-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 68 kB, installed size 208 kB
[02:14] <bruenig> pjm?
[02:14] <pietro10> ubotu didn't help ext3 :-( time to go reprogram :-)
[02:14] <Surf24> How can it be deangerous
[02:14] <philipsmith> Help! I've got an ubuntu machine with 2 hard drives: one is slave. I did an update, and the system said something about a bad superblock... and the machine would not reboot. So I resintalled Feisty. I'm trying to mount that second hard drive, but am having trouble seeing it anyplace can somebody tell where I should look? Is it in /dev/hda1 or something like that?
[02:15] <Skiff> guys any1 knows how to edit fonttype  for the TABs in XCHAT, it doesnt use the textbox one and I want it to..
[02:15] <bruenig> pietro10, you realize that ext3 is ext2 with journaling right?
[02:15] <nickrud> Five_star, switch back to nv then :)
[02:15] <pietro10> oh
[02:15] <cables> Surf24, it's just not that robust, and you can lose files. You really don't read it, though.
[02:15] <IlluminaX> So has Ubuntu been downloaded a lot more since vista was released?
[02:15] <SayaSe> Whenever I "Move to Trash" files from my old NTFS Windows partition /media/hd5 they vanish, but don't free up any space. What am I doing wrong?
[02:15] <pietro10> ...
[02:15] <Five_star> nickrud: how do I do that? I was hoping on getting this working tonight.
[02:15] <monstarmike> philipsmith it should be /dev/hda2 unless it is a sata drive
[02:15] <pietro10> Empty your trash
[02:15] <nickrud> philipsmith, sudo fdisk -l will show all the partitions you have
[02:15] <Surf24> Thanks for info ubotu
[02:15] <pietro10> If that doesn't work... I dunno
[02:15] <cables> SayaSe, you need to empty the trash
[02:15] <bruenig> !opsnack | Surf24
[02:15] <cables> Surf24, ubotu is a bot
[02:15] <SayaSe> cables: They do not appear in the trash.
[02:16] <ubotu> Surf24: Chocolate!  And Peanuts!
[02:16] <LjL> Surf24: well for instance, if your computer locks up (or you lose electricity for some reason), you can say bye to your filesystem
[02:16] <nickrud> Five_star, so you have X back. Cruising for info, that kind of thing. what exact error is it, anyway?
[02:16] <Surf24> Silly me
[02:16] <bruenig> cables kills all the fun
[02:16] <pietro10> u/b/o/t/u gives me a lot of messages
[02:16] <cables> SayaSe, go to your Windows drive, go to View>Show Hidden Files, and find the .Trash-something folder
[02:16] <philipsmith> nickrud: Thank you. It looks like it is hdb. I'll try to mount it. Thank you so much. Phil Smith Duluth, GA
[02:17] <pietro10> philipsmith: here is the way a hard drive is named in /dev:
[02:17] <monstarmike> hmm, hate to bother everyone again, but I am tring to get NVIDIA from their installer.  It is asking me for the kernel source tree.  I just got the package for linix-source.  No go.  Any suggestions?
[02:17] <nickrud> philipsmith, it won't be hdb by itself, but probably hdb1
[02:17] <Surf24> What kind of bot?
[02:17] <cables> monstarmike, don't use their installer
[02:17] <SayaSe> cables: Hey, that worked. Thanks!
[02:17] <pietro10> hd means IDE drive, sd means SATA drive
[02:17] <bruenig> that is no longer true I believe in the last kernel
[02:17] <pietro10> after that, the letter a-z means the drive number 0-26
[02:17] <cables> Surf24, it tells people things we tell it to tell them
[02:17] <pietro10> Then the number means the partition number
[02:17] <monstarmike> cables, understand.  But this is a botch reinstall from a previous use of the NIVIDIA installer
[02:17] <IlluminaX> The funniest thing about Ubuntu is that many people can't believe it's free!
[02:17] <philipsmith> nickrud: THANK YOU!!!!
[02:17] <cables> Surf24, for example, watch this:
[02:17] <pietro10> So /dev/hdb is the second drive, while /dev/hdb1 is the first partition on that drive
[02:17] <monstarmike> cables, is it possible to un mess it using the latest NVIDIA package?
[02:18] <cables> !defrag | Surf24
[02:18] <ubotu> Surf24: defragmentation is not needed for Ext3 and ReiserFS filesystems. They are much more efficient in their allocation of storage units.
[02:18] <IlluminaX> Everybody vote for Ron Paul in 2008!
[02:18] <Detox_at_Home> this is OFF topic ,,,,:::: can anyone assist with talk or write command?  would like to communicate on remote pc with other users ,,, and cannot get the stupid command to work
[02:18] <nickrud> philipsmith, yw :)
[02:18] <AresiAWAY> pietro10: what does the letters mean?
[02:18] <cables> monstarmike, try installing the official way.
[02:18] <pietro10> Using !bots !is !fun
[02:18] <AresiAWAY> pietro10: and what about the numbers?
[02:18] <monstarmike> cables, what apt package is that as I'm at the command line
[02:18] <Rio79> cables what about for fat32 filesystems?  (defrag)
[02:18] <pietro10> ok: hd = IDE drive, sd = SATA drive
[02:18] <Surf24> cables; Well I'm new at this
[02:18] <cables> Rio79, I don't think it works on that FS
[02:18] <pietro10> *SCSI drive, not SATA
[02:18] <pietro10> * SCSI drive, not SATA drive
[02:19] <Rio79> cables oh okay
[02:19] <pietro10> The third letter is the drive number ,where a is the first drive and b is the second and so on
[02:19] <cables> monstarmike, why don't you switch to the "nv" driver so you can get to a GUI?
[02:19] <Five_Star> I can't remember who that guy was that was helping me but it says no devices could be found and that a screen couldn't be made
[02:19] <melman101> Hey all. I installed the newest kernel, and now my sd card is close to working. when i put in a card i get a /dev/mmcblk0 but it still won't mount (mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt/sdcard) It's a Ricoh R5C822 SD Card Reader built into a laptop (Dell D420). Any suggestions? I plugged in my USB SD card reader and it mounted automagically.
[02:19] <bruenig> !enter \ pietro10
[02:19] <pietro10> The number is the partition number ,where 0 is the first partition
[02:19] <cables> monstarmike, what version of Ubuntu do you have?
[02:19] <bruenig> !enter | pietro10
[02:19] <ubotu> pietro10: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:19] <monstarmike> cables, feisty
[02:19] <pietro10> ok u/b/o/t/u and bruenig
[02:19] <Taxman> melman101: what error do you get on trying to mount?
[02:20] <melman101> one sec
[02:20] <cables> monstarmike, well if you do < sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf > and scroll down to Section "Device", you can change Driver to "nv" and get into a GUI again. Then you can use the Ubuntu driver installer (System>Administration>Restricted Drivers) to install it automatically.
[02:20] <Five_Star> anybody mind scrolling up a bit and looking for the name of the guy that was helping me? I accidentally closed irssi
[02:20] <Five_Star> nevermind
[02:20] <Five_Star> cables: thanks, I was looking for that
[02:20] <monstarmike> cables, I'll try that but if I remember I think that didn't work
[02:20] <melman101> mount: /dev/mmcblk0: can't read superblock
[02:21] <Taxman> the same card works in the other SD reader?
[02:21] <melman101> yup
[02:21] <Taxman> how does the livecd work for you? same error?
[02:22] <pietro10> Once again does anyone know about the iMac mic?
[02:22] <Surf24> cables: what about forced checking of hd1
[02:22] <cables> Surf24, what?
[02:22] <melman101> Taxman: yup same. actually the livecd has a lower kernel, i only got the /dev/mmcblk0 when i upgraded to the newest kernel today.
[02:22] <foug> what's the command to uninstall something?
[02:22] <Taxman> melman101: also try googling for your error to tell what's going on
[02:22] <melman101> Taxman: i have. been on ubuntuforums.org
[02:23] <cables> foug, sudo aptitude remove
[02:23] <melman101> and everywhere
[02:23] <melman101> can't find anything
[02:23] <defjux> my computer isn't crashing anymore!!
[02:23] <foug> cables: thanks
[02:23] <foug> cables: does sudo apt remove work too?
[02:23] <cables> foug, sudo apt-get remove works, but aptitude is smarter with dependencies
[02:23] <Taxman> melman101: can't read superblock is not an obscure error, you shouldn't have found nothing. But sorry, that's not an error I can help with
[02:23] <foug> cables: cool thanks man
[02:24] <melman101> Taxman: it's cool, thanks though
[02:24] <Surf24> cables:some hd1 scan or error check  after 80 plus starts
[02:24] <Taxman> melman101: see if you can't find who wrote the driver and email them *very* nicely
[02:24] <cables> Surf24, what about it?
[02:24] <five_star> cables: I did what you said, changing it to "nv" instead of "nvidia" and it still didn't work
[02:24] <pietro10> Better yet where is the GNOME Mixer?
[02:25] <cables> five_star, I was directing that to someone else... I didn't see what the problem you were having was.
[02:25] <Tacroy> How do I enable WPA when my computer is running as the wireless host?
[02:25] <five_star> cables: same problem
[02:25] <Surf24> cables; Is check important measure and can it be run independently?
[02:25] <cables> five_star, try changing it to "vesa" as that will pretty much work with anything
[02:25] <five_star> heh
[02:25] <five_star> alright
[02:26] <five_star> i'll let you know how it goes
[02:26] <cables> Surf24, it should be fine by itself, the filesystem corrects itself as it goes.
[02:26] <ubuntu__> hola
[02:26] <bobsumone> hey guys im having some trouble with samba on ubuntu server
[02:26] <cables> !es | ubuntu__
[02:26] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:26] <Jordan_U> !hi | ubuntu__
[02:26] <ubuntu__> hola soy de chile
[02:26] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:27] <Surf24> cables; thanks there is little info about system self-correction.
[02:27] <ubuntu__> hola
[02:27] <cables> Surf24, it's called journalling
[02:27] <ubuntu__> alguien sabe espaol
[02:27] <RampageAI> Nosotros no hablamos espanol
[02:27] <nickrud> !es | ubuntu__
[02:27] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:27] <melman101> Taxman: yeah, nada on google.
[02:27] <ubuntu__> gracias
[02:27] <nickrud> de nada :)
[02:28] <Surf24> cables; thanks for the info I'll call it journaling.
[02:28] <five_star> cables: it's still telling me the same "no screens found" problem, still no X :(
[02:28] <pietro10> RampageAl: you just did
[02:28] <pietro10> ha ha
[02:28] <pietro10> bye
[02:28] <nickrud> five_star, look for a missing " somewhere in xorg.conf
[02:28] <Jordan_U> five_star, What kind of card do you have and was it ever working?
[02:28] <geniusvicks> how does one change color photos to black and white in linux?
[02:28] <five_star> nickrud: no "'s are missing, I already looked
[02:29] <nickrud> five_star, eh, that's what I always do wrong
[02:29] <Jordan_U> geniusvicks, From the GUI or terminal?
[02:29] <five_star> Jordan_U: MSI Nvidia GeForce 6600 256mb, worked fine, then I went to install the nvidia drivers and on restart it didn't work
[02:29] <cables> geniusvicks, you could use GIMP
[02:29] <geniusvicks> Jordan_U, using GIMP?
[02:29] <cables> geniusvicks, open it in GIMP, go to Image > Mode > Grayscale
[02:30] <RampageAI> GIMP rocks.
[02:30] <Surf24> cables; Is there any app or command that allows secure file delertion?
[02:30] <Jordan_U> five_star, How did you install the nvidia drivers and have you tried running: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[02:30] <cables> Surf24, probably, but I don't know it.
[02:30] <geniusvicks> Thanks
[02:30] <five_star> Jordan_U: lemme try that, brb
[02:30] <jrib> Surf24: shred
[02:30] <emet> Ubuntu ubuntu they drink it in the congo?
[02:31] <DSpair> Hey gang. Need some help with a Canon USB Scanner. Any Takers?
[02:31] <Jordan_U> !offtopic | emet
[02:31] <ubotu> emet: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:31] <LjL> !ask
[02:31] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:31] <openmindDJ> has anyone upgraded the to the newest 2.6.20.16 kernel?  I have been on the forums and it seems that there are a few people that have had issues with the upgrade..
[02:31] <Surf24> jrib: Thanks, does shred over write a certain number of times?
[02:31] <melman101> openmindDJ: i upgraded, so far everything seems good.
[02:31] <cables> !man | Surf24
[02:31] <ubotu> Surf24: The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[02:31] <nickrud> openmindDJ, working ok here (no special hardware)
[02:32] <jrib> Surf24: yes, see "man shred"
[02:32] <Gandalf84> can somebody help me with ndiswrapper please?
[02:32] <DSpair> I can see the scanner when I run "sane-find-scanners", but I cannot see it when I run "scanimage -L" or any other sane program.
[02:32] <Jordan_U> openmindDJ, Where any of the problems *not* related to proprietary Nvidia / ATI drivers ?
[02:32] <Surf24> jrib: Thanks will check out man.
[02:32] <Jordan_U> Gandalf84, What card / chipset?
[02:32] <Gandalf84> i follow edmonte tutorial here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=250982&page=2
[02:32] <openmindDJ> i saw an issue with an IRQ problem
[02:32] <LjL> DSpair: you may need to enable the correct driver in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf
[02:32] <Gandalf84> but after restart i can't see wlan
[02:33] <openmindDJ> i have an ATI card myself which could be an issue
[02:33] <Gandalf84> motherboard integrated AP: Asus P5B deluxe Wifi-Ap
[02:33] <DSpair> LjL: As far as I know, I have. I added the pixma backin into the dll.con
[02:33] <DSpair> conf even.
[02:33] <five_star> Jordan_U: thanks, it works
[02:34] <LjL> DSpair: what does sane-find-scanner output exactly about your scanner? you may also have to edit /etc/sane.d/pixma (or whatever it's called) and change parameters
[02:34] <DSpair> LjL: I also configured the proper prodId and vendorID in UDEV
[02:34] <Jordan_U> openmindDJ, You shouldn't have a problem as long as you used the restricted driver manager instead of installing from ati.com
[02:35] <DSpair> LjL: It says "found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon Inc.] , product=0x263e [MP390 Series] ) at libusb:004:004"
[02:35] <LjL> DSpair: are you trying scanimage -L as root?
[02:35] <DSpair> LjL: I have tried root and unprivileged.
[02:36] <newbie> HELP: Gedit can not open directly a .cvs file,
[02:36] <newbie> I open .cvs file via openoffice, copy and paste to gedit -- then it display
[02:36] <newbie> Is there any quick way to do this one as in windows?
[02:36] <newbie> Thanks
[02:36] <LjL> DSpair: i'm afraid i'm out of ideas. perhaps try disabling all other drivers in dll.conf
[02:36] <openmindDJ> Jordan_U, thanks for the advise.  I have a few updates, the new ubuntu kernel, headers-generic, image-generic, also a low latency kernel, and restricted modules-generic.  Which order of download would be safest?
[02:36] <LjL> !enter | newbie
[02:36] <RampageAI> newbie vi?
[02:36] <demona_> newbie, what is cvs, is it just a text file?
[02:36] <HorizonXP> hey guys
[02:36] <Gandalf84> Jordan_U:can u help me?
[02:36] <ubotu> newbie: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[02:36] <franko_> howdy
[02:36] <demona_> !howdy | franko_
[02:36] <ubotu> franko_: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[02:36] <HorizonXP> i can't seem to mount my ntfs usb hard drive in read/write mode
[02:37] <HorizonXP> i can mount it read-only.... but not rw
[02:37] <newbie> i m newbie - so i do not know how to use vi
[02:37] <Jordan_U> !ntfs-3g | HorizonXP
[02:37] <ubotu> HorizonXP: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:37] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, have you ejected the drive before it was "safe to remove?"
[02:38] <HorizonXP> i have installed ntfs-3g, and ntfstools
[02:38] <newbie> a .cvs file is a txt file looks like "data","data name","data data"
[02:38] <openmindDJ> ubotu, i have seen this with usb drives when you remove them too early
[02:38] <cables> newbie, you mean .csv?
[02:38] <otero> anyone using bitchx?
[02:38] <DSpair> LjL: Thanks for the attempt.
[02:38] <cheeseboy> how i burn avi to dvd in ubuntu?
[02:38] <RampageAI> newbie I guess it depends on taste, but vi just has different keys for maneuvering.  Arrow keys let you scroll around / i key inserts / :w saves / :q exits / ESC stops inserting.
[02:38] <newbie> cables : yes sorry, my typing error :D
[02:38] <cables> newbie, right click, go to Open With
[02:38] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: not the 1st time i connected it, it was the first time using it and it was read-only then... i did disconnect it like that after cuz Feisty wasn't letting me unmount it properly and i got annoyed
[02:39] <Jordan_U> HorizonXP, Have you installed ntfs-config and is the drive marked as "unclean" for any reason ( corruption or simply removed without unmounting ) ?
[02:39] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, does it have a read-only switch on the usb drive?
[02:39] <newbie> cables: then ... ?
[02:39] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: no
[02:39] <agentjk> hi, can i have an fat partition and an ntfs partition on the same drive?
[02:39] <franko_> you prolly hear this all the time but i just got this os today, is ATI unusable pretty much unless its restricted
[02:40] <cables> newbie, go to open with other application. It's fairly obviouss from there.
[02:40] <Jordan_U> agentjk, Yes
[02:40] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: it's my friend's drive, i've used it fine in Edgy 2 months ago, but i've formatted and installed Feisty since then
[02:40] <Ericc> hey everyone
[02:40] <wer> hi
[02:40] <newbie> cables: yes, but i 'd like to open with gedit, you know it is a txt file
[02:40] <linusttt> I have some serious trouble. I can't even run the Wubi installer without getting an error. Is this the right place to ask for directions?
[02:40] <Jordan_U> HorizonXP, Do you have ntfs-config installed?
[02:40] <cables> newbie, then select gedit from the list.
[02:40] <agentjk> should i use fat 32 for ubuntu or another format?
[02:41] <jrib> agentjk: ext3
[02:41] <HorizonXP> Jordan_U: yes, and I've told it to allow write access to internal and external drives
[02:41] <LjL> linusttt: the wubi installer is experimental unstable etc etc. use an ubuntu installation cd
[02:41] <cheeseboy> how i burn avi to dvd in ubuntu?
[02:41] <Jordan_U> linusttt, Not many people here know about wubi generally, I think there is a wubi specific channel though
[02:41] <cables> !repeat | cheeseboy
[02:41] <ubotu> cheeseboy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:41] <demona_> cheeseboy, easiest is to install devede, assuming you are a graphical person
[02:41] <Ericc> I'm lagging when using vlc over a mounted network drive.. would anyone be able to help me out for a min?
[02:41] <newbie> cables: i wonder why gedit can not display the context
[02:41] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ, Jordan_U: and I have write access to my windows partition
[02:41] <cables> newbie, did you select it? Perhaps it's a bad file.
[02:42] <demona_> cheeseboy, you can use ffmpeg, dvdauthor and mkiso to do it via commandline
[02:42] <newbie> cables: well , it looks funny, if open with gedit
[02:42] <agentjk> thanks
[02:42] <linusttt> Jordan_U: Any chance you might know where to find the Wubi channel on IRC?
[02:42] <demona_> newbie, what happens when you do "cat file"
[02:43] <newbie> demona_ i download a data file from web , and it is .cvs file, i try to open with gedit, -- so you guess it might be a bad file ?
[02:43] <cholera> I have tried Dia, does anyone have any recommendations for a program I could use to create a layout designed more for architectural use?
[02:43] <franko_> or my broadcom air force one driver isnt working i dont think
[02:43] <cables> bruenig, what's with the nick changes?
[02:43] <bruenig> messing with this idiot in another channel
[02:43] <cables> bruenig, eh?
[02:43] <bruenig> forgot I was still that
[02:44] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ, Jordan_U: no ideas?
[02:44] <newbie> cables: when i open with openoffice and copy to gedit, it is exactly what i m expecting , but just too many steps
[02:44] <bruenig> newbie, do you know what the terminal is
[02:44] <cheeseboy> i want somethink like nero
[02:44] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, have you tried backing up the USB drive and then reformatting it?
[02:44] <newbie> bruenig: sorry what do you mean? i m totally new ubuntuer
[02:44] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: It's not my drive, i'm not about to do that...
[02:44] <bruenig> cheeseboy, doesn't exist, devede will convert it and create an iso, then you can burn the iso with any burning app assuming you want to do it all graphically, not that hard
[02:45] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: that, and it's 500GB of stuff
[02:45] <bruenig> newbie, ok where is this file located, is it on your desktop?
[02:45] <cheeseboy> ugh
[02:45] <newbie> bruenig: or i m a newbie of linux
[02:45] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: I couldn't back that up very easily
[02:45] <taime1> My Computer Stops Responding if there is no internet connection or if it is trying to establish a connection... WHAT could be causing this? is this how Ubuntu acts without an internet connection?
[02:45] <newbie> bruenig: yes on my desktop
[02:45] <bruenig> cheeseboy, you can do it all via a script
[02:45] <cholera> also, my INS key is dead, is there another way I can toggle off the overwrite mode when working in a text editor?
[02:46] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, I have seen issues with USB drives like this before.  Are you getting an error message when you try to modify the files?
[02:46] <newbie> bruenig: if i use "less file.cvs" and it display good
[02:46] <LjL> cholera, if you have a numeric keypad, it has an Ins key (on the 0 key). just hit Num Lock and then use it
[02:46] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, anything in the syslog?
[02:47] <dantheredbomb> can you remap insert to another key(that isn't used)?
[02:47] <bruenig> newbie, what happens if you do gedit file.cvs
[02:47] <Surf24> cheeseboy; I may be wrong but Ubuntu doe not seem to have many non-self authored aps to work with for burning clips to dvd.  Look into Kino FAQa
[02:47] <newbie> bruenig: it looks like birdie language from alien planet which i can not understand
[02:47] <zenmonk> I am having an odd issue.  The root password works in terminal but doesn't work in graphical login, for example when trying to get to users and groups
[02:47] <zenmonk> what can I do?
[02:47] <bruenig> newbie, how did you know what less is
[02:48] <cables> zenmonk, you're not supposed to use a root password
[02:48] <nickrud> zenmonk, it's looking for your user password
[02:48] <nickrud> !sudo | zenmonk
[02:48] <ubotu> zenmonk: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:48] <zenmonk> cables, but I need it for administrative tasks
[02:48] <cables> zenmonk, no you don't
[02:48] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: in the syslog, it just has messages about a new device being added
[02:48] <cholera> LjL: yep, sure does.....I feel stupid. Thanks, it has been a disaster trying to edit files lately :)
[02:48] <cables> zenmonk, you use your regular password
[02:48] <bruenig> zenmonk, like what?
[02:48] <zenmonk> it said I need to be administrator to get to users and groups
[02:48] <zenmonk> oh gosh
[02:48] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, nothing in there about trying to write to a read-only drive?
[02:48] <bruenig> zenmonk, just put your password
[02:48] <cables> zenmonk, did it ask for a password?
[02:49] <zenmonk> it works, using my regular password
[02:49] <newbie> bruenig: i type directly in the terminal "less file.cvs" and it display English -- if i do "gedit file.cvs" and it display alien language
[02:49] <Gavana> DCC SEND C:\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
[02:49] <cables> zenmonk, that's what it's supposed to do
[02:49] <cables> fuck
[02:49] <bruenig> !ops
[02:49] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[02:49] <nixternal> !language | cables
[02:49] <ubotu> cables: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:49] <cholera> f bomb
[02:49] <dantheredbomb> lmao
[02:49] <zenmonk> cables, I see that now.  I am confusing Linux's idea of adminstrator with the windows account Adminuistrator
[02:49] <zenmonk> doh! thanks for the help
[02:50] <bruenig> jrib is cruel, funny though
[02:50] <newbie> bruenig: i type directly in the terminal "less file.cvs" and it display English -- if i do "gedit file.cvs" and it display alien language
[02:50] <nickrud> darn, where do I find out about that bug?
[02:50] <taime1> My Computer Stops Responding if there is no internet connection or if it is trying to establish a connection... WHAT could be causing this? is this how Ubuntu acts without an internet connection?
[02:50] <bruenig> newbie, right, um... when you do cat file.cvs does it display properly?
[02:50] <cescalante> trying to install Feisty PPC
[02:50] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: this drive has 4 partitions. I get 4 messages popup saying it cannot mount the volume.
[02:50] <T3KN33K> hey
[02:50] <Paddy_EIRE> hey guys for some reason after an update my laptop lost its gfx driver wifi driver and sound, just when I was thinking ubuntu was ready
[02:50] <cables> newbie, nice try. You don't know what terminal is, or how to use Open With, but you know what less is?
[02:50] <newbie> bruenig: what is "cat " ?
[02:50] <cescalante> trying to install Feisty PPC. getting an error that the Kernel didn't pass the MD5 Checksum
[02:50] <cables> newbie, drop the act
[02:50] <newbie> well i m trying now ...
[02:50] <cescalante> any thoughts?
[02:50] <bruenig> newbie, concatenate, just do it
[02:51] <Zoiks> hey dawn_chorus
[02:51] <Paddy_EIRE> !alsa
[02:51] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[02:51] <cables> !msgthebot | Paddy_EIRE
[02:51] <ubotu> Paddy_EIRE: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:51] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, what happened to ya?
[02:51] <newbie> burenig: cat also good
[02:51] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, are you able to mount any other usb drives with read/write?
[02:51] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, do "sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[02:51] <Zoiks> for some reason ubuntu complete borked it
[02:51] <nickrud> cescalante, sounds like a bad iso download; you could check the md5sums
[02:51] <T3KN33K> join #source
[02:51] <bruenig> newbie, ok try renaming it, mv file.cvs file.txt and then opening it in gedit
[02:51] <Zoiks> so I reformatted and started again
[02:51] <cescalante> so just re-dl?
[02:51] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ:  yea, my usb flash key
[02:51] <cescalante> and see what happens?
[02:51] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, everything cool?
[02:51] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, sorry, < sudo aptitude install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` >
[02:52] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, For the GFX issues, did you install NVIDIA / ATI drivers from ATI / nvidia.com instead of from the restricted driver manager?
[02:52] <nickrud> cescalante, check the md5sums first (what's that page ...)
[02:52] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, that's a ` below the ~, not a quote.
[02:52] <Paddy_EIRE> no I used the restricted drivers manager
[02:52] <Zoiks> so anyway dawn_chorus, I plugged in my ipod and unplugged it 3 times, everything worked. Started up amaok, it worked. Unplugged and replugged it and the same thing
[02:52] <Zoiks> nothing
[02:52] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, can you run the command I sent?
[02:52] <Paddy_EIRE> although I wonder if this is worth fixing YET AGAIN
[02:52] <Zoiks> :(
[02:52] <newbie> bruenig: well same not working
[02:52] <Zoiks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2735445#post2735445
[02:52] <Paddy_EIRE> cables, I will
[02:52] <cescalante> nickrud: no clue
[02:52] <bruenig> newbie, then it is not a true text file
[02:53] <nickrud> cescalante, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[02:53] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, you're ejecting the ipod before you disconnect the usb, right?
[02:53] <Zoiks> of course
[02:53] <newbie> bruenig: so what do you think, that .cvs file , that can not be opened by gedit ? i thought gedit is very powerful
[02:53] <Zoiks> well i cant now because there is no icon to right click and eject with
[02:53] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, it may be the drive itself (my guess is the filesystem).  You could try running an fsck on the drive but I would definitely back that thing up first.  I have run into a similar issue where i ejected the drive early, causing me to not be able to write to it.  Even after running several fsck commands, I could not mount it properly.  I eventually backed it up and then repartitioned.  That finally worked
[02:53] <Zoiks> but when there was i did
[02:53] <Paddy_EIRE> cables,  I have already corrected the gfx and wifi just now although there is no alsa sound anymore
[02:54] <zenmonk> does anyone know why a cd that I am trying to copy would stop at 48%?  I am using xcdroast
[02:54] <HorizonXP> openmindDJ: yeah, that's not really an option for me... if it was my drive, sure...
[02:54] <mario__> hi everyone
[02:54] <Paddy_EIRE> cables, should I just wait until this OS is ready?
[02:54] <bruenig> newbie, if it was a true text file, it would be open I have to think, see if vim can handle it "vim file.cvs"
[02:54] <newbie> bruenig: because less/cat all working fine, but not gedit -- is it funny or bug ?
[02:54] <nickrud> Zoiks, you can unmount from a terminal; ls /media will to check the name, then umount /media/<name>
[02:54] <cables> Paddy_EIRE, do what you want.
[02:54] <dantheredbomb> Paddy, was this when you uped the kernel to 2.6.20.16?
[02:54] <Paddy_EIRE> cables, np, hx
[02:54] <bruenig> newbie, you said that even after you renamed it to txt it still didn't open right?
[02:54] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, may be an amaroK thing.  i dunno.  use GTKpod instead.
[02:54] <mario__> can any one help me with my GRUB
[02:55] <bruenig> !anyone
[02:55] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:55] <Zoiks> but its not mounting onto the computer either
[02:55] <mario__> everything went wrong
[02:55] <dawn_chorus> mario__, sure.
[02:55] <newbie> bruenig: rename to .txt also not working
[02:55] <bruenig> newbie, ok try vim like I said
[02:55] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, right.  and from what I recall, we couldn't even mount it manually.
[02:55] <Zoiks> `yeah
[02:55] <Zoiks> its just retarded
[02:55] <Zoiks> it works
[02:55] <Zoiks> then it does not
[02:55] <mario__> dawn_chorus, the thing is i updated my ubuntu and then my other OS don't appear in the grub menu
[02:56] <Nrbelex> Has anyone else noticed *EXTREMELY* long boot-times after installing the most recent kernel update?
[02:56] <gan|y|med> hi
[02:56] <newbie> bruenig: how can i exit vim -- i do not like vim or vi -- which always leave me somewhere -- that i have to close the terminal
[02:56] <jrib> skiffx: please go fix your router
[02:56] <gan|y|med>  can i end up with a less responsive system if i use a low latency kernel???
[02:56] <bruenig> newbie, type :q! and then hit enter
[02:56] <newbie> bruenig : vim can display
[02:56] <dawn_chorus> mario__, do you know how to pastebin your menu.lst ?
[02:56] <bruenig> newbie, well if vim can do it, I guess there is something up with gedit, I don't know what, seems odd
[02:56] <mario__> dawn_chorus, sure, i'll do it
[02:56] <newbie> bruenig: i do not like vim or vi
[02:56] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, sorry but I have not yet found a way to resolve the issue...
[02:57] <Zoiks> nickrud: that does not work, it is not showing up in /media
[02:57] <bruenig> newbie, yeah you said
[02:57] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, dmesg still shows you're plugging something in?
[02:57] <nickrud> Zoiks, yeah, I read what dawn_chorus said
[02:57] <cables> 
[02:57] <redcard> newbie: MOst people will give answers in terms of vi/vim because vi is pretty much standard Unix fare
[02:57] <inflex> hey there, I've got a wacom tablet and at the moment it's setup to be in 'absolute' mode - anyone know how to change it to relative mode?
[02:57] <Zoiks> dawn_chorus: yes it is, still says sdd1 sdd2
[02:57] <inflex> (like a mouse)
[02:58] <newbie> bruenig: thanks -- that's very funny with gedit, less/cat/vim all working -- but gedit can not open that .cvs file
[02:58] <bruenig> newbie, you can use nano
[02:58] <mario__> dawn_chorus, this is what I got after installing some updates http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23007/
[02:58] <openmindDJ> HorizonXP, when you right click on the icon for the drive, do you see that it only has read only permissions?
[02:58] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, do flash drives automount still?  check and see.
[02:58] <Jordan_U> newbie, Can you msg me the file, I am curious :)
[02:58] <dyoung_> I have a SMCWPCI-GM card, it detects the network, thought I can't connect. I have wpasupplicant installed though when I launch via wpagui it says "could not get status from wpa_supplicant".
[02:58] <dyoung_> I loaded my driver via ndiswrapper. Though when I type' ndiswrapper - l' it says invalid driver. Ideas?
[02:58] <Zoiks> i have no flash drives :(
[02:58] <dawn_chorus> mario__, i'll check that out.
[02:58] <mario__> dawn_chorus, do you know if there's a way to reinstall my grub as the ubuntu installer did
[02:59] <newbie> bruenig: thanks, i prefer to use openoffice/gedit rather than learn vim - sorry - i m a newbie
[02:59] <cables> !grub | mario__
[02:59] <ubotu> mario__: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:59] <bruenig> newbie, nano is easy to use
[02:59] <codeyman> which application do i use to convert .mov to .mp3 ?
[02:59] <dawn_chorus> mario__, we'll just add your other OS back by editing this file here.  it'll be cool.
[02:59] <inflex> ah, worked it out - brb
[02:59] <newbie> redcard: yes - but i like linux more and more now :D
[02:59] <bruenig> codeyman, .mov is a video file, .mp3 is audio...
[02:59] <codeyman> yes
[02:59] <newbie> jordan_u : how to
[03:00] <Zoiks> dawn_chorus: wait i do, I just plugged my phone in and it worked
[03:00] <cables> codeyman, you want to get the audio into a .mp3 file?
[03:00] <newbie> jordan_u : how to mail the file to you ?
[03:00] <cables> codeyman, vlc can do it.
[03:00] <codeyman> yes
[03:00] <Jordan_U> newbie, If you are using xchat then right click on my name and go to "send file"
[03:00] <mario__> dawn_chorus, I also have zenwalk installed, is it too hard to include it too?
[03:00] <codeyman> cables: oh..  i'll check it out and get back... thanks
[03:00] <newbie> jordan_u : well , sorry, no -- because it contains our customer login/details --
[03:01] <newbie> OK - thanks guys. -- I m learning linux day by day
[03:01] <dawn_chorus> mario__, can you mount the zenwalk partition to tell me certain filenames?
[03:01] <Ericc> It's lagging when using vlc over a mounted network drive.. would anyone be able to help me out for a min?
[03:01] <newbie> bye
[03:01] <newbie> \bye
[03:01] <xerophyte> any good vpn clients, how can i configure vpn client access ?
[03:01] <newbie> \exit
[03:01] <newbie> \quit
[03:01] <newbie> ?quit
[03:02] <cables> newbie try /quit
[03:02] <Frogzoo> newbie: other way /quit
[03:02] <dr_willis>  \ is for dos heads  :)
[03:02] <mario__> dawn_chorus, yes i have it already mounted, you tell me what you need
[03:02] <Ericc>  /bye lol
[03:02] <dantheredbomb> that guy was acting... for some reason
[03:02] <Ericc> lol
[03:02] <cables> you mean newbie?
[03:02] <cables> He did seem a bit fishy
[03:03] <Ericc> anyone use vlc and can help for a moment?
[03:03] <Ericc> vlc player*
[03:03] <poningru> xerophyte: just go applicatinos->internet->terminal client
[03:03] <codeyman> cables: any idea what should be the bitrate?
[03:03] <poningru> Ericc: whatsup?
[03:03] <Ericc> not too much u?
[03:03] <Ericc> did I see you here yesterday lol?
[03:03] <poningru> ...
[03:03] <cables> codeyman, 160 is good, 128 is okay, 96 is sorta okay, 64 sucks, 32 is worse, 16 is crap
[03:03] <poningru> I'm sure you did
[03:03] <poningru> whats the trouble?
[03:03] <dawn_chorus> mario__, look in /boot of the Zenwalk partition.  if there are files that start with "vmlinuz" and "initrd" then paste the names of them here.  if not, look for a filename that starts with "kernel", paste the filename here.
[03:04] <xerophyte> poningru ?
[03:04] <LjL> !away > Martinp23|Away    (Martinp23|Away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[03:04] <poningru> xerophyte: you asked for a vnc client right?
[03:04] <Ericc> poningru: I'm using vlc to watch videos on a mounted drive
[03:04] <codeyman> cables: i know that :P ..i mean anything is fine for portable media players right?
[03:04] <Ericc> oops poningru:
[03:04] <Ericc> *
[03:04] <xerophyte> poningru, yes, but i don't have terminal client
[03:04] <Nrbelex__> Has anyone else noticed *EXTREMELY* long boot-times after installing the most recent kernel update?
[03:04] <cables> codeyman, VLC sucks as an encoder though
[03:04] <cables> codeyman, I'd do this
[03:05] <goban> whats the difference between XGL and inderect rendering
[03:05] <poningru> xerophyte: yes you do
[03:05] <poningru> its not the exact name
[03:05] <cables> codeyman, use WAV, or at least a really high quality mp3
[03:05] <Paddy_EIRE> !alsa
[03:05] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:05] <poningru> but ists there
[03:05] <ward__> does anyone feel like helping me to get "veejay" (www.veejayhq.net) to work?
[03:05] <RAOF> goban: Join #ubuntu-effects, that's a much better place to ask that.
[03:05] <FFighter> hello folks
[03:05] <Pollywog> after I use qtparted to modify my partitions, how do I edit fstab so the thing boots?
[03:05] <Ericc> poningru: I'm using vlc to watch videos on a mounted drive and its lagging big time, do you have experience with vlc
[03:05] <cables> codeyman, then use LAME, which is a high quality mp3 encoder, to re-encode into the quality you want.
[03:05] <codeyman> cables: u mean encode as a wav
[03:05] <dantheredbomb> paddy, what did you do to break it?
[03:05] <mario__> dawn_chorus, /media/hda4/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20       /media/hda4/boot/initrd.splash
[03:05] <poningru> Ericc: just increase the cache
[03:05] <cables> codeyman, yep, then use LAME to encode to mp3 (LAME puts out better mp3s than VLC)
[03:05] <poningru> to something like 10mb or something
[03:05] <mario__> dawn_chorus, that's what i found
[03:06] <cables> codeyman, I can tell you the command to use for LAME
[03:06] <dawn_chorus> mario__, only initrd.splash?  is there is another initrd?
[03:06] <Ericc> because I'm using it over a samba server, that had been mounted on my computer
[03:06] <Pollywog> I could use a LIVE cd but then how do I mount the partition to make it writable so I can edit fstab?
[03:06] <Ericc> so its complete lag
[03:06] <Pokit> Im trying to install kiba dock (from a script) and i'm getting the following message:
[03:06] <Pokit> aclocal: configure.in: 28: macro `AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT' not found in library
[03:06] <Pokit> autoreconf: aclocal failed with exit status: 1
[03:06] <poningru> Ericc: yeah I know just increase the cache
[03:06] <Ericc> poningru: cache, got it thx
[03:06] <amrcidiot> guys, how to i instal an rpm file?
[03:06] <mario__> dawn_chorus, no, there's this also /media/hda4/boot/System.map-2.6.20
[03:06] <amrcidiot> *install
[03:06] <cables> !rpm | amrcidiot
[03:06] <ubotu> amrcidiot: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[03:06] <Pokit> any clue how to fix that?
[03:06] <gan|y|med>  can i end up with a less responsive system if i use a low latency kernel???
[03:06] <Pollywog> Pokit: did you install the correct automake?
[03:07] <cables> gan|y|med, I don't know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[03:07] <Pokit> how do i do that
[03:07] <gan|y|med> cables: huh, what's going on with you?
[03:07] <codeyman> cables: oh kewl.. so u mean i use vlc to encode mov to wav and then use Lame to convert wav to mp3?
[03:07] <Pollywog> Pokit: before you compile the thing run 'sudo apt-get build-dep <package>
[03:07] <dawn_chorus> mario__, hold on a sec.
[03:07] <cables> gan|y|med, one ? is enough.
[03:07] <cables> codeyman, yep
[03:07] <Pollywog> Pokit: before you compile the thing run 'sudo apt-get build-dep <package>'
[03:07] <Pokit> k
[03:07] <gan|y|med> cables: that is ALL???
[03:07] <poningru> !buildessential | Pokit
[03:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:07] <poningru> !build-essential | Pokit
[03:07] <codeyman> cables: thnx.. i'll try that
[03:07] <ubotu> Pokit: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:07] <Pollywog> that might get the correct automake
[03:08] <gan|y|med> and yes, the ? are intended. get yourself together, pls
[03:08] <cables> gan|y|med, you could always install the low-latency kernel to test, then go back to the normal one!!!!!
[03:08] <ward__> does anyone feel like helping me to get "veejay" (www.veejayhq.net) to work?
[03:08] <Pokit> im not compiling anything. I'm installing the program from a script
[03:08] <inflex> in Ubuntu, with metacity/gnome, when I insert my memory card for the camera it puts it onto the desktop - what application is it that monitors the ports and does that?
[03:08] <amrcidiot> could someone explane to me how to compile a source code?
[03:08] <cstextiles> Does Ubuntu Server comes with the GUI. I mean XServer ?
[03:08] <Pollywog> Pokit which program is it?
[03:08] <jrib> Pokit: then the script is compiling
[03:08] <Pokit> kiba-dock
[03:08] <poningru> Pokit: I know but the script is probably compiling
[03:08] <Pokit> oh
[03:08] <cables> !compile | amrcidiot
[03:08] <ubotu> amrcidiot: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:09] <dawn_chorus> mario__, and what partition is Zenwalk on?
[03:09] <poningru> Pokit: keep in mind thats a probably, we cant tell for sure without looking at the script
[03:09] <Pollywog> I am unfamiliar with that program but the error looks like an automake error
[03:09] <amrcidiot> thanks
[03:09] <Pollywog> after I use qtparted to modify my partitions, how do I edit fstab so the thing boots?
[03:09] <sldkfj> does someone know what the url is for the changelog to the feisty updates?
[03:09] <Pokit> k i wont make you read the script lol. its 500+ lines
[03:10] <gan|y|med> cables: WHAT the hell is going on with you?
[03:10] <cables> !ohmy | ganadist
[03:10] <ubotu> ganadist: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:10] <cables> !ohmy | gan|y|med
[03:10] <ubotu> gan|y|med: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:10] <mario__> dawn_chorus, that is hda4
[03:10] <poningru> Pollywog: just 'man fstab'
[03:10] <dr_willis> just ... heh heh :)
[03:10] <Mete0ra> FUCK MAN THIS FUCKING UBUNTU SHIT IS CRAZY ASS COOL GUYS
[03:10] <gan|y|med> what is going on here. i am not the one with the !!!!!!
[03:10] <cstextiles> Can anyone help me by cinveying whether Ubuntu Server comes with the GUI. I mean XServer ?
[03:10] <cables> gan|y|med, calm down, I gave you an answer to your very unclear question. Did you install the kernel already and are experiencing slow results, or are you asking before you install the kernel?
[03:11] <cables> cstextiles, it odesn't
[03:11] <Pollywog> that will tell me how to change fstab when the partition is not mounted yet?
[03:11] <Pollywog> I know the file format
[03:11] <sldkfj> Mete0ra, settle down, easy boy.
[03:11] <Pollywog> that is not the problem
[03:11] <cstextiles> cables: Are there any other edition which provides tools as server does and also provides GUI?
[03:11] <dawn_chorus> mario__, it's on a different disk than Ubuntu?
[03:11] <poningru> cstextiles: not out of the box but you can install it later on
[03:11] <Pollywog> I guess I will probably need to reinstall kubuntu
[03:11] <cables> cstextiles, the only difference between the desktop and server editions are the applications included.
[03:11] <tenrten> help
[03:11] <gan|y|med> cables: honestly, i am absolutely calm. i just wanna know, what's going on. i mean if sth is not clear then pls ASK and i'll provide additional info
[03:11] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  the fstab is where the mount command gets its info from..  you may need to rerun grub-install and perhaps edit the grub menu.lst if you rearanged partitions.
[03:12] <lifeisgreat1024> ubuntu server does not have an XServer
[03:12] <cables> cstextiles, so you can have the GUI of the desktop, and the whatever of the server.
[03:12] <poningru> Pollywog: no dude no need to reinstall, whats the problem?
[03:12] <tenrten> NEWBIE HERE, is anyone really good with with Unstalling ubuntu
[03:12] <mario__> dawn_chorus, yes
[03:12] <Pollywog> dr_willis: ty I think you are right
[03:12] <mario__> dawn_chorus, ubuntu is on hdb2
[03:12] <dawn_chorus> mario__, just double-checking.  :)
[03:12] <Jordan_U> !anyone | tenrten
[03:12] <ubotu> tenrten: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:12] <mario__> dawn_chorus, :)
[03:12] <cables> gan|y|med, I just did ask. But does this: < <gan|y|med> cables: WHAT the hell is going on with you? > appear calm to you?
[03:12] <cstextiles> poningru: cables: The probs is that the machine on which I am installing does not have Internet connection and so am trying to find such a edition
[03:12] <lifeisgreat1024> I'm sure you could probably put one on the server, but thats not the point of a server
[03:12] <dr_willis> tenrten,  use the XP cd/restore feature. and use the fixmbr to remove grub.. then use the drive manager to delete/reformat the linux partition.
[03:13] <Pollywog> poningru: I used qtparted to rearrange partitions.  Now when I try to start the machine it won't reboot if I do not modify fstab
[03:13] <poningru> Pollywog: ah ok
[03:13] <dr_willis> tenrten,  if you want  the partitions totally gone that is..
[03:13] <tenrten> Anybody really good with installing Ubuntu
[03:13] <cables> !ask | tenrten
[03:13] <ubotu> tenrten: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:13] <dr_willis> tenrten,  install? pop in live cd.. boot.. click install icon...
[03:13] <cables> !anyone | tenrten
[03:13] <ubotu> tenrten: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:13] <Jordan_U> tenrten, Just ask your question and if someone can help they will
[03:13] <Pollywog> I will have to mound the / partition so I can edit fstab before I reboot
[03:14] <poningru> Pollywog: just go into grub edit the kernel and root and you should be good to go
[03:14] <dantheredbomb> When cats stand on their hind legs, it looks like they are wearing pantaloons.
[03:14] <gan|y|med> does this appear calm? -> [02:07]  <cables> gan|y|med, I don't know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[03:14] <ArmeBoy> trying to install ubuntu in an old machine, mouse not detected, it has serial port, any suggestion???
[03:14] <cilaes> i know for a fact i install kubuntu-desktop through apt-get and when i try to remove it it wouldnt let me and so i found a command someone else made and it removed things like blender and gnomebaker... why?
[03:14] <cables> gan|y|med, if you're looking for help, then answer my question.
[03:14] <tenrten> I want to dual boot windows, but the 1st option on the partition wizard, is not avaible. HELP! :)
[03:15] <Pollywog> is there a cat that looks like a pirate in the movie with that green ogre?
[03:15] <dr_willis> tenrten,  so now we are finially getting to the real question>?
[03:15] <gan|y|med> cables: i take that as a definite no
[03:15] <poningru> tenrten: that means go back into windows and run a chkdisk or scandsk or whatever
[03:15] <cables> tenrten, go to manual, and resize your Windows partition. Then create a new partition (filesystem Ext3) and set its mount point to /
[03:15] <hanasaki> running fiesty fawn... it recognizes my usbflash drive when I put it in but wont mount
[03:15] <cables> gan|y|med, I asked you to clarify your question.
[03:15] <poningru> tenrten: then restart the boot process
[03:15] <cilaes> tenrten: and dont forget the swap
[03:15] <dantheredbomb> not a pirate... it's a spaniard
[03:15] <cdcarter> is there a .deb of glib2.10
[03:15] <tenrten> it says it will reformat my windows partiton if i resize it
[03:15] <Jordan_U> hanasaki, What FS is on the drive?
[03:15] <Pollywog> well it looks like a cat pirate
[03:15] <hanasaki> Fat
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> Can I resize LVM partitions on a running system, or do I need a Live CD?
[03:16] <cstextiles> Does TCM of LTSP Server of Ubuntu has VNC Server which can enable to look into the clients machine?
[03:16] <poningru> tenrten: how big is your harddrive?
[03:16] <jrib> cdcarter: why would you want it?
[03:16] <hanasaki> Jordan_U: it mounts fine from root
[03:16] <tenrten> 52.8
[03:16] <mario__> dawn_chorus, ill be back in a sec
[03:16] <hanasaki> i am in gnome
[03:16] <dantheredbomb> its not wearing an eye patch though... so I don't agree
[03:16] <tenrten> bg
[03:16] <Jordan_U> tenrten, It shouldn't.... can you post a screenshot?
[03:16] <tenrten> no
[03:16] <cdcarter> jrib: rubinius depends on it
[03:16] <Pollywog> oic
[03:16] <tenrten> 60.5 gb
[03:16] <Pollywog> I like the cat anyway
[03:16] <dantheredbomb> puss'n boots I believe it is
[03:16] <Pollywog> oic it does look like pussnboots
[03:16] <greyfrog> anyone know where the UUIDs in /etc/fstab are defined? (i.e. UUID of XX-XX-XXXX = sda1)
[03:17] <gan|y|med> cables: which i am going to do. i have a custom kernel (pentium m, preemptible). it seems (most extremely in the form of lags during working in kde) that it is slower than the generic one
[03:17] <dr_willis> tenrten,  i perfer to use a gparted live cd - and manually resize the existing windows hd/partitions myself.
[03:17] <tarelerulz> Is ubunt 7.04 at seen usb hardware such as mic/head adapter ?
[03:17] <cables> gan|y|med, if that is the case, then go back to your generic kernel.
[03:17] <dr_willis> greyfrog,   ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[03:17] <cstextiles> Does TCM of LTSP Server of Ubuntu has VNC Server which can enable to look into the clients machine?
[03:17] <davef> greyfrog: vol_id /dev/sda1
[03:17] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  i discovered that once. :)
[03:17] <tenrten> does anyone have aim so they can help me 1 on 1
[03:17] <Pollywog> dr_willis: and when you are done, how do you edit fstab?
[03:17] <bruenig> tenrten, what is your question
[03:17] <Pollywog> so the machine boots?
[03:18] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  with a text editor.
[03:18] <poningru> tonyyarusso: hmm
[03:18] <jrib> cdcarter: to compile it requires that specific version and won't compile with glib 2.12?
[03:18] <Pollywog> yes but it is not mounted
[03:18] <Jordan_U> greyfrog, The UUID depends on the partition and is independent of the device ( /dev/whatever )
[03:18] <hanasaki> Jordan_U:  any idea? its fat32 and mounts fine from root.. just wont automount in gnome for the regular account
[03:18] <tenrten> i cant install my ubuntu
[03:18] <Pollywog> I think I need to mount / read/write
[03:18] <cdcarter> jrib: all I can find in the repos are 2.0
[03:18] <cstextiles> Does TCM of LTSP Server of Ubuntu has VNC Server which can enable to look into the clients machine?
[03:18] <Pollywog> to modify fstab
[03:18] <tonyyarusso> poningru: Problem is, / is full, and includes /tmp, so I can't do anything, including opening gedit, etc.
[03:18] <Paddy_EIRE> could anyone help me get my sound working again after an update several things stopped working which I personally find unacceptable and NOT stable.. Anyway I managed to get gfx and wifi working again although still no sound
[03:18] <lonepine> where does ubuntu feisty mount smb shares?
[03:18] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  you are getting different things confused..  the fstab defines what gets mounted wher. If you need to edit the /etc/fstab - use a livecd and mount the filesystem and edit it. then reboot.
[03:19] <dantheredbomb> paddy, what did you update, the kernel?
[03:19] <poningru> tonyyarusso: ouch
[03:19] <Jordan_U> hanasaki, Does the account have permission to mount removable devices ( check in System -> Administration -> Users and Groups )
[03:19] <AnRkey_> lonepine, wherever you wnat
[03:19] <Surf24> tenrten; do you have enough memory or hd space?
[03:19] <gan|y|med> cables: that really doesn't help me. the generic one is not very responsive either
[03:19] <Pollywog> dr_willis: yeah that is it, what command do I use to mount the filesystem so the file can be edited?
[03:19] <jrib> cdcarter: feisty has 2.12 (ignore the package name)
[03:19] <tarelerulz> getting the ntfs config tool , ntfs-3g and ntfsprogram then you don't have to boot back into windows to file dirty mounted ntfs
[03:19] <cdcarter> jrib: huh, ok
[03:20] <Pollywog> is it mount -rw /  ?
[03:20] <illriginal> Hey guys, I'm trying to get a driver for my wireless usb adapter, and I'm gettin this error in terminal: http://www.pastebin.ca/517413
[03:20] <Acidictadpole> I'm having soem trouble getting my Soundblaster audigy 1 (gamer) working in ubuntu. I haven't seemed to have a problem previously but I only just installed ubuntu again a couple of days ago.
[03:20] <Paddy_EIRE> dantheredbomb, I have no idea I just let my laptop update as I assumed this was safe practice
[03:20] <poningru> tonyyarusso: I would probably just get a live cd and do it that way
[03:20] <Pollywog> is it mount -rw /dev/hdbx  ?
[03:20] <jrib> cdcarter: try 'apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0' to see.  I think the package just refers to the fact glib is the 2.0 series.  I could be wrong
[03:20] <tonyyarusso> poningru: 'k.  Retyping the e-mail I wanted to send in nano then.
[03:20] <mario__> dawn_chorus, im back
[03:20] <dr_willis> Pollywog,  mount /dev/whatever /place-to-mount-to
[03:20] <poningru> tonyyarusso: in absense of a live cd I would mount /tmp in a usb flash drive or something
[03:21] <Pollywog> afrog an acidictapole and a pollywog hmmm
[03:21] <cdcarter> jrib: ok, then its failing somewhere else, thanks!
[03:21] <lonepine> AnRkey_, ok then how do I mount smb shares so I can see them in wine?
[03:21] <poningru> tonyyarusso: do you have a live cd?
[03:21] <greyfrog> dr_willis, davef, Jordan_U: do any of you know how these UUIDs get set?  Can I change the symlinks in /dev/disk/by-uuid ? I ask because when I upgraded my kernel today, it renamed all my sdX's to hdX's so fstab can't mount / or swap
[03:21] <AnRkey> ahh
[03:21] <Acidictadpole> i wonder why that hilited me Pollywog, you misspelt it :/
[03:21] <dawn_chorus> mario__, are you sure that "vmlinuz-2.6.20" is the full filename?
[03:21] <gan|y|med> is it a good idea to use the  Planet CCRMA kernel in ubuntu?
[03:21] <Acidictadpole> I'm having soem trouble getting my Soundblaster audigy 1 (gamer) working in ubuntu. I haven't seemed to have a problem previously but I only just installed ubuntu again a couple of days ago.
[03:21] <GenNMX> lonepine: Mount them as normal -- the Z:\ drive in WINE links to root ( \ )
[03:21] <Pollywog> yes I did
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> poningru: I do.  I was just trying to get this e-mail sent before rebooting if possible.  (Can't send without /tmp either)
[03:22] <GenNMX> lonepine: Err, /
[03:22] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  personally.. i edit the fstab to use the /dev/hda (or whatever old name) and delete the uuid stuff. :)
[03:22] <Rodel> if when i put 'ln -s garnome/2.18.1 /opt/gnome' into a terminal and i get 'ln: creating symbolic link `/opt/gnome' to `garnome/2.18.1': Permission denied' what can i do to get permission?
[03:22] <poningru> tonyyarusso: ah gotcha
[03:22] <Paddy_EIRE> is there no alternative to windows system restore in ubuntu so I could roll back a day or so
[03:22] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  or i make them mount by lable.
[03:22] <poningru> Rodel: sudo
[03:22] <GenNMX> lonepine: WINE can access all of your computer by default through Z:\
[03:22] <Paddy_EIRE> then I will not click update again
[03:22] <mario__> dawn_chorus, /media/hda4/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20
[03:22] <illriginal> Hey guys, I'm trying to get a driver for my wireless usb adapter, and I'm gettin this error in terminal: http://www.pastebin.ca/517413
[03:22] <mario__> dawn_chorus, full name
[03:22] <tarelerulz> to mount my ntfs I did ntfsfix and I mount the ntfs-3g /dev/sda2 /media/sda2 -o force and it worked fine
[03:22] <greyfrog> dr_willis: thats what I thinking of doing as well... just rename in fstab.  mount by label? what's that?
[03:22] <poningru> Paddy_EIRE: what broke?
[03:23] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, There are often automatic backups of system files when they change, what system file do you need to revert?
[03:23] <dawn_chorus> mario__, make a backup of your current menu.lst.
[03:23] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  same as uuid. :) it can mount by the filesystems Lable Name instead of UUID.
[03:23] <lonepine> GenNMX: thanks I'll give it a go
[03:23] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, err my sound
[03:23] <Rodel> poningru: doh! thanks :P
[03:23] <poningru> illovae: hold on looking
[03:23] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  nifty thing i leared by reading up on UUID and related stuff
[03:23] <greyfrog> dr_willis: ahhh, thanks for the info :)
[03:23] <mario__> dawn_chorus, can you give me the command to do that right away
[03:23] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  # ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/
[03:23] <poningru> illriginal: hmm weird that should have worked out of the box
[03:23] <felipe__> Hello people, I was wondering if someone could point me out to a list of compatible TV tuners that work for linux, I've got a HP ExpressCard Digital/Analog TV Tunner
[03:23] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  you can set the Label with the tune2fs command :)
[03:24] <illriginal> you think so?...
[03:24] <dawn_chorus> mario__, sudo cp /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/menu.lst.backup
[03:24] <illriginal> i dunno how to check if it's pickin up my wireless router
[03:24] <poningru> illriginal: can you see it in the networking window?
[03:24] <dantheredbomb> paddy, you might want to revert back to 2.6.20-15 and see if that fixes it.
[03:24] <illriginal> no only my "wired" connection
[03:24] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, Have you checked that all of the channels have the volume up and unmuted in alsamixer ?
[03:24] <poningru> illriginal: hmm
[03:24] <poningru> illriginal: go into a terminal
[03:24] <illriginal> ok
[03:24] <poningru> and type in iwlist scan
[03:24] <greyfrog> dr_willis: thanks much, reading up on tune2fs now :)
[03:25] <poningru> and press enter
[03:25] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, yeah I know this procedure although alsa mixer no longer works
[03:25] <mario__> dawn_chorus, i did that
[03:25] <poningru> illriginal: does it give anything other than your wired?
[03:25] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  theres a lot of interesting progress being made. :) the UUID stuff is neat idea and very useable.. but makes the fstab very Unreadable. :(
[03:25] <mario__> dawn_chorus, thanks, i-m learning so much
[03:25] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, No longer works in what way, does it give an error?
[03:25] <illriginal> illriginal@illriginal:~$ iwlist scanlo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[03:25] <illriginal> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[03:25] <illriginal> eth1      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[03:25] <dawn_chorus> mario__, now gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and paste the new pastebin into menu.lst --> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23010/
[03:26] <djy_> hi all
[03:26] <ubuntu> Heyyyy
[03:26] <poningru> illriginal: from now on use pastebin
[03:26] <tarelerulz> any one have a wireless card work right out of the box for anyone ? I am hoping the new once are better supported.
[03:26] <ubuntu> someohe here
[03:26] <ubuntu> fast
[03:26] <illriginal> ok
[03:26] <Jordan_U> illriginal, What chipset is your wireless card?
[03:26] <Acidictadpole> I'm having soem trouble getting my Soundblaster audigy 1 (gamer) working in ubuntu. I haven't seemed to have a problem previously but I only just installed ubuntu again a couple of days ago.
[03:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, alsamixer: function snd_mixer_load failed: Invalid argument
[03:26] <ubuntu> the new kernel is bastards
[03:26] <djy_> ati 9200se can use 22' lcd
[03:26] <ubuntu> it can't load the ubuntu
[03:26] <djy_> ati 9200se can use 22' lcd ??
[03:26] <ubuntu> it say the it can't
[03:26] <Paddy_EIRE> ubuntu, they always are
[03:26] <dawn_chorus> boot into the old one until another update comes out.
[03:26] <AnRkey> lonepine, i have private messaged you
[03:26] <ubuntu> after when i change the nvidia nv it work
[03:26] <jasin> hello
[03:26] <jasin> :)
[03:26] <greyfrog> dr_willis: very much so :|  I really like the idea of being able to make my own labels and using those...  still need to worry about kernel changing the way it defines between hda/sda, but at least this way I know more about whats going on
[03:26] <ubuntu> but after that it won't work nvidia-settings
[03:27] <AnRkey> hello jasin
[03:27] <ubuntu> Paddy_EIRE: man,this is the is first time
[03:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntu, Did you install drivers from nvidia.com or envy ?
[03:27] <illriginal> I believe Zydas? ill check on the list
[03:27] <Rodel> how do i uncreate aka delete a symbolic link?
[03:27] <ubuntu> Jordan_U: no i installed from the updates.
[03:27] <dr_willis> greyfrog,  the hda/sda stuff is a nother beast totally. :) thats part of the rewrite of the ata libs/system I think. :) i skimmed some info on it ages ago.
[03:27] <jrib> Rodel: rm
[03:27] <poningru> illriginal: can you do a lsusb -vv ? and pastebin the wifi usb dongle portion
[03:27] <ubuntu> Jordan_U: this who make new kernels are bastards
[03:27] <poningru> illovae: it is
[03:27] <jasin> New kernel in updates
[03:27] <poningru> err illriginal its, zydas or somethign that is
[03:27] <Jordan_U> ubuntu, No, I mean how did you originally install the drivers, through the restricted driver manager?
[03:27] <poningru> illriginal: my friend had this
[03:28] <ubuntu> i can't run the nvidia
[03:28] <illriginal> yeah it's zydas for sure
[03:28] <rummik> hey, i'm having trouble with my sound card. lspci tells me "00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5451 PCI AC-Link Controller Audio Device (rev 02)"
[03:28] <ubuntu> Jordan_U: yes
[03:28] <ubuntu> Jordan_U: restricted manager
[03:28] <poningru> !sound | rummik
[03:28] <ubotu> rummik: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:28] <kkrusty> does anyone know a good speech recognition software for ubuntu?
[03:28] <ubuntu> are here the programers who make the new kernel
[03:29] <ubuntu> this is the first time that happend when i update kernel
[03:29] <jamster545> hi?
[03:29] <ubuntu> 2 kernels was installed and this is the first problem,this programers are drunk.
[03:29] <Jordan_U> ubuntu, Did you get an update for restricted modules when you got an update for the kernel?
[03:29] <crimsun> ubuntu: do you mean 2.6.20-16.28?
[03:29] <ubuntu> crimsun: yes
[03:29] <ubuntu> Jordan_U: yes
[03:29] <crimsun> ubuntu: what's the precise issue?
[03:29] <Paddy_EIRE> its funny how fickle linux is.. I though it was rock solid? things just go from working to not working in a flash, and this is intended for end-users
[03:30] <poningru> crimsun: hmm thats twice that someone has complained
[03:30] <mario__> dawn_chorus, thanks a looot man
[03:30] <ubuntu> crimsun: when i start 2.6.20-16.28 it say that the nvidia
[03:30] <jamster545> hi... i cant get the adept notifier to install the updates... (it says there are 49) what do i do?
[03:30] <mario__> dawn_chorus, i-ll try it and i-ll be back to tell ya
[03:30] <jasin> 2.6.20-16 is the one on updates
[03:30] <dantheredbomb> snd-hda-intel alsa work-around had problems with the update I think
[03:30] <Rodel> how do i remove a symbolic link?
[03:30] <dawn_chorus> mario__, cool. keep your fingers crossed.
[03:30] <dr_willis> rm thenameofthething
[03:30] <illriginal> poningru:
[03:30] <dr_willis> just like a file
[03:30] <ubuntu> crimsun: and i need to chane to nv to work,but when i write nvidia-settings it won't display the control panel
[03:30] <tarelerulz> Kkrsty , I am looking for speech to text program that is open source myself. I have not found anything that don't take some sort of close source stuff
[03:30] <crimsun> poningru: that's because no one tests when I ask them to.
[03:30] <Acidictadpole> I'm having soem trouble getting my Soundblaster audigy 1 (gamer) working in ubuntu.
[03:30] <jasin> I've had no troubles with 2.6.20-16-
[03:30] <Surf24> Paddy EIRE; Can't agree things got better as I progressed.
[03:30] <poningru> crimsun: sign me up for your list
[03:31] <illriginal> poningru: http://www.pastebin.ca/517434
[03:31] <poningru> crimsun: I'll test
[03:31] <dr_willis> Acidictadpole,  oh? Mine works great.  well i got a 2zs right now.. My older card was an Audigy1
[03:31] <kkrusty> terelerulz: yeah IBM via voice is the usual reason. And the rest seem unmaintained
[03:31] <crimsun> poningru: there's an open invitation for our git tree.  Do tests daily.
[03:31] <Zoiks> dawn_chorus: i have asked in #amarok if they knew of anything but noone has replied. Do you know of anyone else in this forum that might be able to help?
[03:31] <ubuntu> crimsun: and now say something for the nvidia
[03:31] <tarelerulz> I read about that one ,but I thought it was close source with some open source
[03:31] <crimsun> ubuntu: that's the l-r-m issue due to linux-meta not having built yet for i386 and amd64.
[03:32] <ubuntu> ????
[03:32] <crimsun> ubuntu: in the meantime, just install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic manually.
[03:32] <Acidictadpole> dr_willis: I dont hear anything, i have alsamixer running but my line is completely void of sound. I moved my headphone plug around a bit on the card to see if it was different from windows. And I got a response from one of them, although it was all crackly and staticky, although i could hear the "test beeps" above it.
[03:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Surf24, yeah but thats from someone actually skilled and interested in the ins and outs but not for someone looking to have a computer in there home or office that works, imagine I had put this on my work comp, I would be left to do all this
[03:32] <kkrusty> Oh well I'll have to drop my plans of yelling commands to my system
[03:32] <crimsun> rummik: please use http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/scripts/alsa-info.sh
[03:32] <poningru> illriginal: pastebin your /var/log/dmesg
[03:32] <ubuntu> crimsun: it won't work .
[03:32] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, What happens when you run this? : sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[03:32] <poningru> illriginal: if you dont know how to do this let me know
[03:32] <jamster545> HELLO? i cant get adept notifier to open, it asks for password, i enter it, nothing happens
[03:32] <ubuntu> crimsun: i try it too,
[03:32] <illriginal> just type /var/log/dmesg into terminal
[03:32] <illriginal> ?
[03:33] <illriginal> Yeah there's alot of commands I do NOT know poningru :x
[03:33] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, tons of error messages
[03:33] <crimsun> Jordan_U: be aware that most people often mistake restart for reset.
[03:33] <poningru> illriginal: cat /var/log/dmesg
[03:33] <ubuntu> popey from the ubuntu-uk that when he install the new kernel the wifi didn't work
[03:33] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, naw.  you should search ubuntuforums.org or maybe join a mailing list.
[03:33] <tarelerulz> kkrusty ,is it all  open source some sort of combo ?
[03:33] <poningru> cat is _the_ basic command
[03:33] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, Can you pastebin them?
[03:33] <poningru> it just reads a file
[03:33] <jamster545> am i going to get an answer?
[03:33] <Zoiks> no idea about mailing lists
[03:34] <Zoiks> and i have done a search of ubuntuforums
[03:34] <Surf24> Paddy EIRE: I know your point but having it on the side w/o windows keep my other box leaner.
[03:34] <Zoiks> thanks anyway dawn_chorus
[03:34] <guigz2000> hello
[03:34] <poningru> crimsun: I thought the last update was just a abi version change or something
[03:34] <dr_willis> Acidictadpole,  hmm the  conectors should stay the same.
[03:34] <harald_> how can i disable the bootscreen-logo of feisty?
[03:34] <poningru> atleast thats what my update is saying
[03:34] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, have you tried mounting it manually sine your reinstall?
[03:34] <jamster545> ...
[03:34] <Acidictadpole> dr_willis: was there anything you needed to do to get yours working ?
[03:34] <sdf> hi when i try to send email for email with extenstion  @yahoo.co.uk   i have error  is unable to connect smpt server  how can i solve this??
[03:34] <redDEAD> i put an audio disk into my drive and it wont open up to lets me see the files
[03:34] <rummik> crimsun: it doesn't work
[03:34] <dr_willis> Acidictadpole,  to ne honest.. my audigy cards have been a no brainer..  never had to do much of anything to get them working.
[03:34] <jacked> is it possible to grab grub off a live install cd?
[03:35] <dr_willis> Acidictadpole,  other then tweak the mixer to enable the rear speakers.. thats it.
[03:35] <jacked> (as an individual package)
[03:35] <Acidictadpole> dr_willis: :/ Do you know of any diagnostics i could run?
[03:35] <illriginal> poningru: http://www.pastebin.ca/517442
[03:35] <tarelerulz> kkrusty , I mean it that speech-to-text program open source or combo of open and close soucre ?
[03:35] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23011/
[03:35] <poningru> harald_: go into /boot/grub/menu.lst and in there find your ubuntu booting options and delete the word splash
[03:35] <ubuntu> pfuuuu
[03:35] <jamster545> *ignored by all*
[03:35] <rummik> crimsun: it complains about syntax error, and a few other things
[03:35] <ubuntu> this bastards
[03:35] <dawn_chorus> jacked, yes.
[03:35] <dr_willis> Acidictadpole,  may want to check the Ubuntu forums/wiki and thers the !alsa info
[03:35] <dr_willis> !alsa
[03:35] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[03:35] <poningru> jamster545: whats wrong?
[03:35] <Zoiks> no i have not dawn_chorus
[03:35] <kkrusty> tarelerulz: well i checked the homepage of CVoiceControl, it didnt seem to depend on anything closed source from its description. But it hasnt been maintained since 2002
[03:35] <jamster545> i cant get adept notifier to open
[03:35] <Zoiks> dawn_chorus: how would i go about that again
[03:35] <ubuntu> before to install news kernel update say that there was 5 download
[03:35] <mzaza> Do anyone have a debian package for the wine-doors?
[03:35] <ubuntu> but there was only 2
[03:35] <jacked> dawn_chorus:  can you give me a tip on how to do that?
[03:35] <jamster545> it asks for password, i enter it, nothing happens
[03:35] <Pelo> mzaza, ask in #winehq
[03:36] <guigz2000> I have a small problem with my ubuntu.It's installed on an Imac G4.When I put a DVD in the reader,sometimes it's mounted,sometimes it's ejected after a moment.Sometime it just keep ejecting.
[03:36] <mzaza> Pelo: Ok, thanks.
[03:36] <davef> jamster545: have you run it from a shell to see if it outputs any errors?
[03:36] <mzaza> Pelo: is it easy to build debian packages from the tarball?
[03:36] <kkrusty> tarelerulz: i didnt install any of the ones i found
[03:36] <jamster545> idk how
[03:36] <dawn_chorus> jacked, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351&highlight=grub
[03:36] <redDEAD> i put an audio disk into my drive and it wont open up to lets me see the files
[03:36] <tarelerulz> kkrusty, I would like to open source speech-to-text program like Drangon natural speech?
[03:36] <Pelo> mzaza,  I hve no idea I 've never tried
[03:36] <mzaza> Pelo: Ok thanks
[03:37] <guigz2000> and when I ask to eject using the keyboard eject button,it's ejected and then reinserted..Completly chaotic thing.
[03:37] <mzaza> Anyone have any idea if is it easy to build a debian package?
[03:37] <redDEAD> i put an audio disk into my drive and it wont open up to lets me see the files says could not display cdds:///dev/scd1
[03:37] <rummik> crimsun: wait, here's the pastbin link from the program http://pastebin.ca/517443
[03:37] <zabin> hey
[03:37] <zabin> does anyone here know php?
[03:37] <dawn_chorus> Zoiks, mkdir /mnt/ipod
[03:37] <rummik> zabin: a little...why?
 can i replace "splash" with ""?
[03:37] <poningru> jamster545: just go into terminal 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade'
[03:37] <dawn_chorus> pretty
[03:38] <poningru> harald_: nothing
[03:38] <poningru> just delete it
[03:38] <zabin> im getting a warning when i am doing an fopen and reading
[03:38] <crimsun> rummik: does muting 'External Amplifier' help?
[03:38] <Pelo> redDEAD, audio cds donT' have files on them, not realy, maybe a dat file but that's all,  try playing the cd in totem or something , serpentine maybe
[03:38] <Surf24> mzaza;try recompiling an rpm.
[03:38] <cstextiles> Does TCM of LTSP Server of Ubuntu has VNC Server which can enable to look into the clients machine?
[03:38] <zabin> rummik:
[03:38] <zabin> Warning:  fopen(/home/zabin/users.txt) [function.fopen] : failed to open stream: Permission denied in /var/www/vote2.php on line 18
[03:38] <harald_> yes - ok ... thank you
[03:38] <crimsun> rummik: if not, try muting both of the jack sense elements.
[03:38] <mzaza> Surf24: Ok, thanks.
[03:38] <poningru> cstextiles: you might have better luck in #edubuntu
[03:38] <kkrusty> tarelerulz: Ive never heard of Drangon. I found a page on tldp.org about speech recognition software and thats pretty much it.
[03:38] <zabin> im not sure why it is not able to open that file.
 _> yes - ok ... thank you
[03:38] <ward__> does anyone feel like helping me to get "veejay" (www.veejayhq.net) to work?
[03:38] <poningru> illriginal: sorry looking
[03:39] <cstextiles> poningru: Thanks
[03:39] <jacked> dawn_chorus:  thanks!
[03:39] <zabin> is there a programming channel?
[03:39] <Pelo> ward__,  http://cutlersoftware.com/ubuntuinstall/
[03:39] <illriginal> it's cool poningru... and i just realized my hyper threading is turned off!!!
[03:39] <dawn_chorus> jacked, no problem.  let me know if it works ok.
[03:39] <redDEAD> Pelo, thanks it opens fine in players and such
[03:39] <illriginal> that's bullcrap
[03:39] <linux_> anyone could help me?
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> zabin, many
[03:39] <tarelerulz> I really think something like good  speech-to-text program would be great for open source .
[03:39] <zabin> what is it?
[03:39] <rummik> crimsun: still nothing
[03:39] <Pelo> zabin,  I'm told #ubuntu-programming  but I might have missread
[03:39] <zabin> Paddy_eire>: how can i find them?
[03:39] <larson9999_> errr, is there a gnome version of kdesu ?
[03:39] <Paddy_EIRE> zabin, which language?
[03:39] <jamster545> sorry my gay crap router disconnected me
[03:39] <zabin> php
[03:39] <poningru> illriginal: hmm did you have the usb dongle plugged in when you were turning on your computer?
[03:39] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | jamster545
[03:39] <ubotu> jamster545: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:39] <crimsun> rummik: try the second suggestion.
[03:39] <poningru> jamster545: just go into terminal 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade'
[03:40] <ward__> Pelo, its a little more complicated then that :p
[03:40] <jamster545> i did
[03:40] <kkrusty> tarelerulz: yeah me too but it seems folks lost interest on speech-to-text and stuff few years back
[03:40] <rummik> crimsun: i just did ;)
[03:40] <crimsun> rummik: (and make sure you reset 'External Amplifier')
[03:40] <ward__> Pelo, alse i wouldnt ask here
[03:40] <poningru> jamster545: and?
[03:40] <jamster545> it installed those but it still says there are 49 updated packages available
[03:40] <bruenig> kkrusty, most people can type about as fast as they speak anyways
[03:40] <illriginal> poningru... honestly, i don't think so, i just now installed the hardware
[03:40] <lockd> where do you specify modules to be loaded?
[03:40] <cables> What the hell? After the kernel update, my hard drives are back to being hda4
[03:40] <poningru> jamster545: its probably broken, restart the update notifier or whatever its called
[03:40] <illriginal> poningru it blinked a few times
[03:40] <poningru> illriginal: restart your computer
[03:40] <cables> bruenig, that's so not true
[03:40] <illriginal> ok
[03:40] <lockd> some distros use modules.autoload.d - not in Ubuntu
[03:40] <jamster545> it does it whenever i restart comp
[03:40] <illriginal> brb
[03:41] <dsnyders> cables, me to.  What's up with that?
[03:41] <bruenig> by most people, I mean me
[03:41] <jamster545> it is the adept notifier
[03:41] <rummik> crimsun: ok, still nothing...iirc it gave me some kind of error on boot, didn't catch it though
[03:41] <ubuntu> you bastards programers
[03:41] <ubuntu> (06:39:40 PM) ubuntu: linux-image-generic 2.6.20.16.28.1
[03:41] <ubuntu> (06:39:54 PM) ubuntu: and the kernel is 2.6.20-16.28
[03:41] <tarelerulz> Well, I have seen some really good work on it ,but it is all close source stuff.  Never any think open .  I mean they have it on phones , your computer and really cool stuff.
[03:41] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | ubuntu
[03:41] <ubotu> ubuntu: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:41] <Ericc> did you guys see microsofts presentation on TEXT 2 Speach lol
[03:41] <Pelo> ward__,  questions in this channel range from 12o'clock flasher to 1337 h4x0rs,   there is no way to tell from a name,  you asked about installing I gave you installing instructions
[03:41] <ubuntu> who make this kernel
[03:41] <davef> I used git to download the kernel source.  To build the kernel I had to edit debian/abi/2.x.x/i386/generic.modules to remove a line, and now I can't do a 'git pull'.  Can anyone help.
[03:41] <Pollywog> I think he meant gray carp
[03:41] <cables> dsnyders, well when it went to Feisty, it changed from hda to sda, now it's back. I guess it's just a different driver.
[03:41] <zabin> does anyone here know php i have a quick question
[03:41] <cables> It's not really a problem for me, though.
[03:41] <flitterby> Hi. I'm having a problem (I think) with using the update program.  Normally it gives me some feedback about what it's doing, but today when I clicked on 'Install Updates' it's just sitting there.... no pop up windows to say it's downloading.  Suggestions?  I know it's a bit update (linux kernal), but after an hour it seems something should be happening.
[03:41] <ubuntu> !ohmy |  tonyyarusso
[03:41] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:41] <kkrusty> bruenig: I dont know. I just think its cool
[03:41] <ward__> Pelo, i know that's why i tell you :-)
[03:41] <Jordan_U> harald_, Remove the "splash" kernel parameter from GRUB
[03:41] <Jordan_U> jack_wyt, What do you mean by "grab" ?
[03:42] <flitterby> (bit/big)
[03:42] <dsnyders> cables, It is a problem for me.  I cannot boot unless the drives are right.
[03:42] <lockd> anyone know where modules to be autoloaded are specified?
[03:42] <jamster545> he means how to get the file from the disk
[03:42] <cables> dsnyders, it seems to have adjusted mine to hda.
[03:42] <Pelo> lockd,   /etc/init.d
[03:42] <crimsun> ubuntu: are you current?  Have you updated && dist-upgraded?
[03:42] <dawn_chorus> lockd, something like 'lsmod', or where they are on the file tree?
[03:42] <cables> dsnyders, is there any way you can edit a file?
[03:42] <Ericc> anyone have a t1
[03:42] <crimsun> ubuntu: the fix wasn't pushed through until yesterday, which means your mirror may not have synced yet
[03:43] <jtu> any recommendations for recording video and audio in linux?
[03:43] <jtu> using video4linux2
[03:43] <jtu> device
[03:43] <Acidictadpole> I'm having soem trouble getting my Soundblaster audigy 1 (gamer) working in ubuntu.
[03:43] <poningru> jtu: many, jokosher etc.
[03:43] <lockd> dawn_chorus: they are installed to /lib/modules whatever.. make install did it for me
[03:43] <cables> dsnyders, do you have a Knoppix CD anywhere? (Ubuntu isn't going to cut it)
[03:43] <dsnyders> Cables, fsck is dropping me into a maintenance prompt because it cannot check the drives listed in fstab.
[03:43] <Paddy_EIRE> it would be good if there was an omit broken crap button on the update notifier
[03:43] <lockd> dawn_chorus: i can load them by hand (modprobe works, in other words)
[03:43] <lockd> Pelo: thanks
[03:43] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: you're being a bit unhelpful regarding necessary details.
[03:43] <illriginal> poningru, im back!
[03:43] <ubuntu> crimsun: ubuntu-uk man
[03:43] <cables> dsnyders, then we'll change dstab
[03:43] <dsnyders> cables, All I have to do is ctrl-d to get in
[03:43] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: apologies.. what kind of details do you consider necessary
[03:43] <Pelo> Acidictadpole, check the forum for the exact model , you may find some answers
[03:44] <ubuntu> crimsun: i can't see you what are you write.
[03:44] <dsnyders> cables, dstab?  what is dstab?
[03:44] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: a precise description of the issue.
[03:44] <cables> dsnyders, typo, fstab
[03:44] <pegel-linux> my beryl hang after i used it for several minutes
[03:44] <junkeR> hello, can someone solve my Mozilla-flash problem in Ubuntu?
[03:44] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: it's not outputting sound?
[03:44] <lockd> Pelo: init.d though? that's init scripts
[03:44] <crimsun> ubuntu: a what?  I'm addressing my statements to you.
[03:44] <junkeR> I have a screenshot of what's going wrong here:
[03:44] <junkeR> http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6351/screenshottoyotacarstruts2.png
[03:44] <Pelo> pegel-linux,  ask in #beryl
[03:44] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: everywhere?
[03:44] <dsnyders> cables, Whew!  I thought ubuntu was going into wild directions again.
[03:44] <pegel-linux> ok
[03:44] <Pelo> lockd, sorry I thought that was what you wanted
[03:44] <tarelerulz> Hay Junker do you have it on Kubuntu ?
[03:44] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: i think a better term is nowhere, but yes.. no sound at all
[03:44] <junkeR> ubuntu
[03:44] <ubuntu> junkeR: what?
[03:44] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: e.g., in a Terminal, is ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' inaudible?
[03:45] <lockd> Pelo: well, don't all the init scripts have configuration files?
[03:45] <ubuntu> crimsun: nothing .
[03:45] <Paddy_EIRE> anyone fancy helping me get alsa back as an option in my sound devices after it decided to disappear
[03:45] <poningru> illriginal: did it work?
[03:45] <wn> I've checked the forums and Google for this and haven't found anything, so... I'm trying to boot Ubuntu 7.04 Server on my laptop and immediately after grub loading stage1.5 I get this error:
[03:45] <wn> Int 14: CR2 c1000000  err 00000002  EIP c03f3c3e  CS 00000060  flags 00010006
[03:45] <junkeR> when I visit flash pages like toyota.com, a huge white box blocks out the page
[03:45] <Mikeh> Yesterday I applied a kernel update, and now there are two bootable Ubuntu's, I realize this is a just in case feature, but is there any way I can turn it off? or make it go away after awhile?
[03:45] <junkeR> image here:
[03:45] <junkeR> http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6351/screenshottoyotacarstruts2.png
[03:45] <illriginal> poningru, I restarted.... heh how do I check to see if it worked?
[03:45] <tarelerulz> I had my Kubuntu would not install firefore any reason and I don't know why . I would not ever get an error .
[03:45] <ubuntu> junkeR: ????
[03:45] <dsnyders> cables, The thing is, though, I just changed my fstab from hda to sda a few weeks ago.  Now I have to go back?
[03:45] <poningru> illriginal: click on the network manager thing
[03:45] <cables> dsnyders, i guess
[03:45] <lockd> Pelo: there has to be a way to add modules to be autoloaded at boot
[03:45] <RAOF> Mikeh: You can uninstall the old kernel in the package manager (synaptic, adept, aptitude, apt-get)
[03:45] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[03:45] <jacked> dawn_chorus:  actually, that's not going to work.  I need the actual grub .deb file.  I'm talking somebody through a system restore... they don't have an Internet connection but they have a liveCD  (and they have actually removed grub using apt)
[03:45] <Pelo> lockd, not realy sure,  I was under the impression that the services all add their startup files in there,  I may be mistaken I haven't messed with that stuff yet
[03:46] <Mikeh> ty RAOF
[03:46] <jamin19> whats the package that auto installs flash, java, mp3 etc?
[03:46] <Pelo> lockd, this may help http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/unleashed/
[03:46] <illriginal> poningru... are you talkin about the little icon on the taskbar? if so it's "wired connected"
[03:46] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: yes
[03:46] <lockd> Pelo: oh, /etc/modules
[03:46] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: pastebin ``amixer'', then tell me the url
[03:46] <RAOF> jamin19: ubuntu-restricted-extras, I believe
[03:46] <illriginal> poningru i also have the option for manual settings
[03:46] <dsnyders> cables, I suppose I should bite the bullet and to the UUID thing.
[03:46] <Pelo> jamin19,  restricted extras
[03:46] <Pollywog> I think junker is a car dealer
[03:46] <poningru> illriginal: it doesnt say anything else?
[03:46] <lockd> Pelo: i read the init scripts
[03:46] <junkeR> can't someone help me?
[03:46] <Pelo> junkeR, what with ?
[03:46] <jamin19> is there not a package that auto installs them?
[03:46] <cables> dsnyders, i don't know how to do the UUID thing, so you seem to know more than me :)
[03:46] <lockd> Pelo: so I figure I have added it, we'll se on next boot
[03:46] <junkeR> what with ?
[03:46] <cables> dsnyders, I have to go, anyway, so, yeah.
[03:46] <poningru> jamin19: there is its called restricted something
[03:46] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, what was that all about
[03:47] <Pelo> junkeR,  what do you need help with ?
[03:47] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: I need the output from that command.
[03:47] <jamin19> oh
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, is there no roll back driver option
[03:47] <jamster545> MAN MY COMPUTERS ALL SUCK MAJORLY!
[03:47] <jamin19> haha thanks
[03:47] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: no, there isn't.
[03:47] <poningru> jamin19: go into applications->add/remove-> search for restricted
[03:47] <jacked> dawn_chorus:  if I can get them a .deb grub file then I can have them copy it to the HD and chroot to install
[03:47] <illriginal> poningru I opened up my Netowrk settings and it only shows my two ethernet ports, that's it
[03:47] <poningru> illriginal: hmm
[03:47] <Pelo> junkeR,  I do not take private msg, talk to me in the channel
[03:47] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, they should have put that in before they decided to release this
[03:47] <poningru> illriginal: pastebin dmesg again
[03:47] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: error while posting to pastebin: Query failure: Can't open file: 'recent.MYI'. (errno: 145)
[03:47] <Acidictadpole> lock tables recent write
[03:47] <zabin> does anyone here know php?
[03:47] <jamin19> poningru: yes got it. appreciate it
[03:48] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: retry it every 30 seconds until it succeeds.
[03:48] <Pelo> zabin,  try #php
[03:48] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[03:48] <wn> could someone that has dealt with the following grub error help me out, please: Int 14: CR2 c1000000  err 00000002  EIP c03f3c3e  CS 00000060  flags 00010006
[03:48] <dawn_chorus> jacked, i believe there's a grub .deb on the livecd, but I don't recall where it is located on the file tree.
[03:48] <wn> thanks
[03:48] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: uname -r
[03:48] <jtu> poningru: jokosher doesn't look like what i need
[03:48] <jtu> poningru: isn't there something simpler?
[03:48] <Pelo> wn,  try asking in #grub
[03:48] <FFighter> hey guys
[03:48] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: ok, and to add i changed the headphone jack socket, I am on this one getting a bunch of loud static. The static DOES change frequency when i try to run that 'aplay ..' cmd in terminal. however it's still inaudible and the static is quite loud
[03:48] <poningru> jtu: for simple recording video? or just audio?
[03:48] <FFighter> How can I see the downstream/upstream of my dsl connection
[03:49] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, 2.6.20-16-generic
[03:49] <shawn34> need help with qDvdAuthor! Get a file not found error every time i try to create a dvd!
[03:49] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: please use http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/scripts/alsa-info.sh
[03:49] <FFighter> ifconfig ?
[03:49] <Surf24> mzaza; The simplest instructions that I know of are in Linux for non-geeks by Rickford  Grant.
[03:49] <jtu> poningru: both video and audio with a webcam
[03:49] <jacked> dawn_chorus: I've searched the Feisty beta liveCD but I'm not getting anything...  argh
[03:49] <Pelo> FFighter,   sudo apt-get install netspeed  , ;then add it to the pannel
[03:49] <ward__> why is libqt3c102-mt not installable?
[03:49] <crimsun> Acidictadpole: I need the url.
[03:49] <jamster545> anyone have a HD they will give me? yes it is a stupid question, but still
[03:49] <dsnyders> FFighter, I'm not sure on ubuntu, but Fedora uses adsl-status
[03:49] <Acidictadpole> crimsun: still working on it
[03:49] <FFighter> Pelo: Thanks ;)
[03:49] <illriginal> poningru: http://www.pastebin.ca/517464
[03:49] <junkeR> :(
[03:49] <jamin19> poningru: im actually not finding anything
[03:50] <hendrixski> gah!!! my /dev/hda1 partition is full....
[03:50] <hendrixski> I can't install the latest kernel updates! I was struggling with apt for a while, reading through page after page of unrelated google pages ...
[03:50] <hendrixski> now how do I clear out that directory?
[03:50] <bruenig> shawn34, what happens when you use the real dvdauthor
[03:50] <crimsun> hendrixski: probably need ``aptitude autoclean'' for starters
[03:50] <FFighter> dnsyders, Pelo already pointed me out to netspeed... I will try this one :)
[03:50] <Pelo> junkeR, just state your problem
[03:50] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, these things tend to happen to often for my liking, I was going to recommend for my work place but I think not... Is there any way once I get these things working AGAIN that I can lock them so that nothing can touch them again
[03:50] <hendrixski> crimsun, autoclean.... downloading now
[03:50] <dawn_chorus> jacked, i'm sure that apt cached the .deb on your friends hard drive.  chroot into it and try reinstalling it.
[03:50] <dsnyders> FFighter, But I usually just point firefox at my DSL modem.  It has a web based config page that tells me the speed.
[03:50] <shawn34> bruenig, don't know how. I just saw qdvd in add/remove and decided to give it a try
[03:50] <junkeR> I already did,  I'm just going to search google some more
[03:51] <crimsun> hendrixski: it's not a package; it's a command.
[03:51] <jacked> dawn_chorus: I've already tried that
[03:51] <jacked> no luck
[03:51] <CHORUSS> :
[03:51] <ward__> why is libqt3c102-mt not installable?
[03:51] <hendrixski> crimsun,  ah, that's why apt-cache searhc was empty
[03:51] <shawn34> bruenig, ERR:  Error opening /tmp/Unnamed/Main Menu VMGM_menu.mpg: No such file or directory
[03:51] <hendrixski> crimsun, it has no man entry
[03:51] <bruenig> shawn34, it must not exist
[03:51] <poningru> !webcam | jtu
[03:52] <ubotu> jtu: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[03:52] <Pelo> ward__, check in synaptic to see if you have the correct package name or if there are issues metionned nt eh properties or someting
[03:52] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: I can't help you if you don't at least give me the URL that that script generates.
[03:52] <poningru> jtu: iirc that lists some software at the end
[03:52] <shawn34> bruenig, i realize that, but it seems to be somthing its supposed to create itself
[03:52] <jtu> poningru: i'll look at it, thansk
[03:52] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, oh, how do I run the script its saved on my desktop
[03:52] <crimsun> hendrixski: ...man aptitude ?
[03:53] <ward__> Pelo, libqt3c102-mt does exist but its not used anymore i believe, but i want to install some software that needs this package
[03:53] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: open a Terminal, then type:  bash ~/Desktop/alsa-info.sh
[03:53] <ward__> Pelo, i allready got the newer version installed but that does not help
[03:53] <illriginal> poningru, what do you think?
[03:53] <ward__> googling the packagename doestn give me hope
[03:53] <crimsun> Paddy_EIRE: / Acidictadpole: I'm in a conference call for the next 30 minutes; I'll check back.
[03:53] <jamster545> anyone fluent in Java?
[03:53] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[03:53] <Pelo> ward__,  throught synaptic and adept you can specify older versions to be installed
[03:53] <Acidictadpole> alright.
[03:53] <poningru> illriginal: do 'lsmod | grep zd12'
[03:54] <ward__> Pelo, what is adept?
[03:54] <poningru> jammer_: not finding what?
[03:54] <Reilithion> Silky is crashing.  Says "** ERROR **: Silky needs threads, your system doesn't support threads."  How do I fix?
[03:54] <Pelo> jamster545,  try asking in #java
[03:54] <ward__> Pelo, and can the old versions be installed next to the new ones?
[03:54] <Pelo> ward__,  package manager in kubuntu
[03:54] <jamster545> i was just wondering if any of you were
[03:54] <hendrixski> crimsun, I ran it ... :-) but then apt-get install -f still failed ... and df -h still tells me that /dev/hda1 is at 100%
[03:54] <illriginal> poningru... I get no response from that?
[03:54] <Pelo> ward__,  I donT' know about that part
[03:54] <ward__> Pelo, i'm in ubuntu studio
[03:54] <poningru> illriginal: hmm that is weird
[03:54] <Pelo> ward__,  then your package manager is synaptic
[03:54] <ward__> Pelo, i know
[03:54] <ward__> Pelo, but does it work with synaptic also?
[03:54] <crimsun> hendrixski: aptitude clean
[03:55] <lockd> anyone else use qemu?
[03:55] <poningru> illriginal: do a 'sudo modprobe zd1211rw'
[03:55] <Pelo> ward__, I said synaptic and adept
[03:55] <lockd> (for running WinXP in particular)
[03:55] <jtu> poningru: mencoder does the trick
[03:55] <illriginal> poningru.. there was a site with instructions.. and i think it made me delete that
[03:55] <ward__> Pelo,  wich was confusing because i didnt know what adept was
[03:55] <jamster545> G2G2 bed... ONLY # DAYS OF SCHOOL LEFT WOO! bye
[03:55] <shawn34> bruenig, is there any other gui app like qdvdauthor that I can use?
[03:55] <bruenig> just use dvdauthor
[03:56] <illriginal> poningru.. i followed this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Belkin_F5D7050_ver_4000_%28ZyDas_zd1211b_driver%29?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDevice%29
[03:56] <Pelo> someone ban jamster545 before he comes back
[03:56] <astomper> !codecs
[03:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:56] <illriginal> and that's where i couldn't download the driver
[03:56] <Paddy_EIRE> !scripting
[03:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scripting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:56] <poningru> illovae: drat iirc in feisty its in automatically
[03:56] <poningru> err illriginal
[03:56] <illriginal> i dunno ><
[03:57] <illriginal> it wasn't workin when i plugged it in ><
[03:57] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE,  bash scripting start here  http://www.linuxcommand.org/index.php
[03:57] <illriginal> so someone recommended me to use those instructions in order to install the driver
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo, thx
[03:57] <poningru> illriginal: yeah I think you had to restart
[03:57] <cows> hello
[03:57] <Paddy_EIRE> Pelo, what is the win equiv
[03:57] <illriginal> i didn't know ><
[03:57] <poningru> illriginal: hold on
[03:57] <poningru> no harm done
[03:57] <Surf24> mzaza :are u still here?
[03:57] <cows> can someone help me getting my flash drive to boot up with mini.iso feisty
[03:57] <illriginal> hope not
[03:57] <hendrixski> crimsun, that seems to have done the trick... so if I continue to have problems with kernel updates... will aptitude clean fix it every time, or will I eventually have to remove the older kernel images somehow?
[03:57] <Pelo> Paddy_EIRE,  I don't know ask in ##windows
[03:58] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[03:58] <cows> can someone help me getting my flash drive to boot up with mini.iso feisty
[03:58] <poningru> illriginal: do a 'sudo modprobe -i zd1211rw'
[03:58] <illriginal> poningru, no response
[03:58] <dsnyders> Hi all.  What's going on with hda->sda->hda?
[03:58] <cows> can someone help me getting my flash drive to boot up with mini.iso feisty
[03:58] <illriginal> brb
[03:59] <cows> can someone help me getting my flash drive to boot up with mini.iso feisty
[03:59] <dsnyders> cows, try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/02/12/usb-ubuntu-tutorial-for-linux-users/
[03:59] <cows> i already tried that
[03:59] <cows> and i also tried the 1 at the ubuntu help
[04:00] <Zoiks> stupid freaking automount :@
[04:00] <dsnyders> cows, what seems to be happening/not happening?
[04:00] <cows> i picked the "Kingston Datatraveler' from the boot menu and it just checks it but goes to grub
[04:00] <poningru> illriginal: thats cool, now do gksudo gedt /etc/modules and add zd1211 to the end of it
[04:00] <cows> if i disable all hdd exept the flash drive it just says plug in bootable media
[04:00] <poningru> illriginal: err zd1211rw
[04:00] <Reilithion> Why does silky think my system doesn't support threads?  "** ERROR **: Silky needs threads, your system doesn't support threads."
[04:00] <carolyn_> i went on an ubuntu haitus shortly after installing and i think i've since forgotten everything i've learned
[04:00] <carolyn_> eep
[04:00] <cows> i formatted the flash drive to fat32 and did syslinux -s /dev/sdb1
[04:01] <cows> before that i sudo apt-get syslinux mtools
[04:01] <poningru> illriginal: and remove that from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:01] <hendrixski> carolyn_, it's like a foreign language... it comes back to you quickly
[04:02] <carolyn_> hendrixski, thanks. i sure hope so. not that i'd learned much...
[04:02] <cows> DSL boots up fine btw
[04:02] <Krazy_> i just installed feisty and i don't see how to set up my wireless connection?
[04:02] <dsnyders> cows, DSL is on the USB drive?
[04:02] <cows> no not atm
[04:02] <poningru> Krazy_: do you see the network manager thing on the top right hand corner?
[04:02] <hendrixski> carolyn_, if you're a visual type of learner then I'd recommend watching a few of the screen-casts to get back in the swing of things
[04:02] <Krazy_> yes
[04:02] <illriginal> poningru: remove this: # The Edgy Eft zd1211rw module does not work in kernel 2.6.17
[04:02] <illriginal> blacklist zd1211rw
[04:02] <poningru> illriginal: yes
[04:02] <poningru> remove that
[04:03] <Surf24> cows; That's because DSL is Damn Small Linux.
[04:03] <illriginal> done
[04:03] <carolyn_> screencasts?
[04:03] <hendrixski> carolyn_, screencasts.ubuntu.com :-)
[04:03] <cows> i know .. lol
[04:03] <carolyn_> thanks!
[04:03] <poningru> Krazy_: click on that do you see any wireless or anything?
[04:03] <cows> im trying to get the mini.iso installer for ubuntu feisty to boot from my flash drive
[04:03] <poningru> brb
[04:03] <cows> so i can install via flash drive
[04:03] <Krazy_> no only wired and modem
[04:03] <hendrixski> carolyn_, they're videos of how to do stuff in Ubuntu, ranging from beginner to intermediate...
[04:04] <drivera90> someone should fix my x server
[04:04] <drivera90> :(
[04:04] <rummik> how do you block modules from loading?
[04:04] <cows> blacklist them
[04:04] <c0llisi0n> I can't seem to get change my laptop's LCD resolution to the proper proper resolution in 7.04.
[04:04] <ubuntu-rocks> dumb question, does this java based irc applet work behind a firewall?
[04:04] <rummik> cows: where's the blacklist file?
[04:04] <carolyn_> hendrixski, thanks. i was just asking for a link. will it still be helpful if i'm in xubuntu now?
[04:04] <c0llisi0n> It defaults to 1024x768 but the LCD screen is 1400x1024.
[04:04] <cows> i think its in the /etc/modules/blacklist or /etc/blacklist
[04:05] <riddlebox> is there a ubuntu version built around E17?
[04:05] <c0llisi0n> And as far as I know, I have installed all the ATI and FireGL drivers.
[04:05] <hendrixski> ubuntu-rocks, you're always behind a firewall in Linux, it's part of the kernel... you mean like a hardware firewall, like a router?  it should
[04:05] <dsnyders> Hi all.  What's going on with hda->sda->hda?
[04:05] <poningru> !e17 | Riddell
[04:05] <ubotu> Riddell: Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[04:05] <poningru> err
[04:05] <undre6k> sup all    Can anyone help me with my login screen resolution
[04:05] <hendrixski> carolyn_, oh.  ummm... maybe somebody made a few xubuntu videos?  I don't recall seeing any though :-(
[04:05] <poningru> !e17 | riddlebox
[04:05] <ubotu> riddlebox: Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[04:05] <rummik> cows: i don't see it there
[04:05] <cows> me neither i jsut checked
[04:06] <poningru> Krazy_: what wifi card are you using?
[04:06] <cows> its been a while i had to blacklist my rt61 module once
[04:06] <cows> let me see if i can get the link
[04:06] <RAOF> dsnyders: It's (old, essentially unmaintained) IDE lib -> (new, shiny) libata -> Whoops, bugs in libata for some drives, use IDE stuff for those drives again
[04:06] <ubuntu-rocks> hendrixski- ok, let me rephrase, can i use this java based irc client behind a corporate firewall like ms isa server, first time using this client
[04:06] <c0llisi0n> Any ideas on how to get my display to the proper resolution?
[04:06] <poningru> !wifi | Krazy_: first you have to check if it works with linux look at this website:
[04:06] <ubotu> Krazy_: first you have to check if it works with linux look at this website:: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:06] <undre6k> sup all    Can anyone help me with my login screen resolution??
[04:06] <rummik> cows: found it /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[04:06] <cows> ok
[04:06] <cows> yea
[04:06] <cows> me too
[04:06] <poningru> illriginal: let me know when you come back
[04:07] <illriginal> oh im here
[04:07] <cows> i found the topic its called
[04:07] <hendrixski> ubuntu-rocks, oh... that's hit or miss,  try it and find out I guess
[04:07] <cows> HOWTO: RT61 on Egdy Eft with WPA
[04:07] <dsnyders> RAOF, so, are they going to go back to sda again once they get the bugs out?
[04:07] <illriginal> im waitin for the next step poningru after i take off that line from black list
[04:07] <RAOF> dsnyders: Yup.  That's where everything will end up.
[04:07] <hendrixski> ubuntu-rocks, though.. all IRC clients probably go through the same port, and if one works, then it doesn't matter what language it's programmed in, they'll all work
[04:07] <RAOF> dsnyders: This is why Edgy switched to mounting stuff by UUID :)
[04:07] <hendrixski> my best guess at least
[04:07] <poningru> illriginal : just restart the computer with usb dongle plugged in
[04:07] <cows> so snyders did u find anything on making the iso boot up from flash drive?
[04:08] <ubuntu-rocks> hendrixski- tks, how i join another channel, i'm using java irc webchat freenode
[04:08] <illriginal> ok brb
[04:08] <host_> !nvidia
[04:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:08] <cows> lol i tried debian netinstall
[04:08] <ubuntu-rocks> foung the channel i wanted, thanks
[04:08] <cows> its pretty good but to get your nvidia drivers to work
[04:08] <dsnyders> RAOF, What a pain.  Edgy didn't recognize all of my drives.  As such some are UUID, and some are not.  Of course, I can't boot properly when hda is on sda, and vice versa.
[04:08] <cows> haha its bad
[04:08] <hendrixski> ubuntu-rocks, you may be able to do it through a button, or from the dropdown.
[04:08] <Jordan_U> RAOF, And here I thought they did it for usability
[04:08] <hendrixski> ubuntu-rocks, I do it by /join #channel-Name
[04:08] <cows> i just downloaded the server install
[04:09] <hendrixski> ubuntu-rocks, but it's different per client
[04:09] <cows> weird thing is that you can install the server install via alternative cd
[04:09] <RAOF> Jordan_U: That, too :)
[04:09] <ibb> openmosix ever going to be included with this system??
[04:09] <rescon> anyone know anything about getting ubuntu wireless to work on resnet?
[04:09] <strabes> cows: I don't think the server install cd and the "command line system" option on the the alternate install cd are the same thing
[04:09] <cows> yea thats what i thought
[04:10] <RAOF> dsnyders: Well, you can always work out what the uuid of a partition is, although I forget quite how.  Let me check.
[04:10] <rescon> !resnet
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about resnet - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <cows> but when i started up the alternative cd it said i can type 'server'
[04:10] <Surf24> cows; Does your computer allow th bios option to boot from external UBS?
[04:10] <undre6k> I help on changing my login resolution
[04:10] <cows> yea i can boot up the DSL
[04:10] <dsnyders> RAOF, Usability?  To me, that means leaving my ata drives as hd and my SCSIs as sda, like they were meant to be.
[04:10] <cows> when i had it on my flash drive
[04:11] <RAOF> !uuid > dsnyders <--- Man, ubotu is cool.  Check the PM
[04:11] <clyde> internet connection sharing/routing
[04:11] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/517485 here is that output
[04:11] <ibb> openmosix capabilities anyone?
[04:11] <clyde> it worked fine for me from live cd now nothing
[04:11] <dsnyders> RAOF, the private message did not come through.
[04:11] <RAOF> !uuid | dsnyders
[04:11] <ubotu> dsnyders: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:12] <RAOF> dsnyders: Heh.  UUID means you need never care.  Particularly, it means that if you ever change what drives are plugged into what controller, it will continue to work.
[04:12] <dr_willis> i just use the ls -l /dev/disks/by-uuid :)
[04:12] <JBLinux> Question: updated from 6.06 to 7.04 / movie player worked fine before / now can't play DVD
[04:12] <tim167> what's a good program to edit webpages (html ... ) ? thanks
[04:12] <Paddy_EIRE> does a computer exist that will run almost any version of linux out of the box
[04:12] <Krazy_> okay thanks its not supported
[04:12] <JBLinux> Totem keeps saying install plug ins...have done all I can find
[04:13] <clyde> can anyone help with internet connection sharing?
[04:13] <dr_willis> Paddy_EIRE,  most  intel/amd based pcs can do that. :)
[04:13] <bruenig> tim167, vim
[04:13] <ryanakca> is the `talk` command considered a security risk?
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> dr_willis, no they dont
[04:13] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, Any comp from system 76 or Dell's comps that come with Linux pre installed
[04:13] <dsnyders> RAOF, thanks for the link.  What happens when the drive I have for hdb changes? (cold swappable drive tray).
[04:13] <tich> does an analog clock for the gnome-panel exist?
[04:13] <Paddy_EIRE> dr_willis, most amd/intel pcs I have tried with ubuntu alone have had nothing but problems
[04:14] <cows> ill brb ill try to boot up DSL again see if its a flash drive error
[04:14] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, system 76
[04:14] <cows> i had I/O errors today
[04:14] <cows> had to reformat my flash drive
[04:14] <cows> :(
[04:14] <cows> brb
[04:14] <Surf24> cows; I don't understand why if you boot from a live cd instal of Feisty you would have trouble installing a version on a USB stick.  Are you choosing the proper install?
[04:14] <LOWER_CASE> Hi, where can I start to find out why updating to Feisty Fawn broke my sound driver?
[04:14] <cows> umm it wouldnt boot up at all from flash drive
[04:14] <RAOF> dsnyders: UUID is (or should be) unique for partitions.  If you stick a different drive in, it'll have a different set of UUIDs.
[04:14] <cows> i use the server and alternative cds
[04:15] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, A company that sells OEM Linux machines ( and has since long before Dell )
[04:15] <Skiff> how can I enabled my Audio (AC97) on NFORCE 2 mobo ? so I have sound in linux ?
[04:15] <cows> brb
[04:15] <lordofthepigs> Hello!
[04:15] <lordofthepigs> It looks like the last kernel update in Feisty screwed up with hda -> sda transition
[04:15] <Cosmo__> are seagate hard drives good and reliable?
[04:16] <ror> yes
[04:16] <lordofthepigs> for some reason, the transition didn't happen for me
[04:16] <Paddy_EIRE> Jordan_U, wow system 76 are expensive
[04:16] <lordofthepigs> but the configuration files were still changed
[04:16] <tim167> bruenig, i was thinking something more wysiwyg, point-and-click-able :)
[04:16] <ror> tim167, I think bluefish might be that, but I mix up names
[04:16] <lordofthepigs> so all my things now point to sda, sdb ... while my partitions really stills are hda, hdb etc...
[04:16] <ror> but search synaptic for HTML editor
[04:16] <bruenig> bluefish is not point and click I don't believe
[04:16] <ror> you should find something
[04:16] <bruenig> !info bluefish
[04:16] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.7-1 (feisty), package size 1570 kB, installed size 6724 kB
[04:17] <Jordan_U> Paddy_EIRE, That's because of the low volume, Dell's are $50 - $100 *cheaper* than the same comps with windows instead of Ubuntu
[04:17] <Skiff> does anyone has that onboard audio (ac97) that they were able to enable? if so how can i do it ?
[04:17] <dsnyders> RAOF, So, I would have to have multiple UUIDs all mapping to the same mount point in my fstab?
[04:17] <cows> ok back
[04:17] <cows> theres def something wrong
[04:17] <bruenig> Skiff, that generally gets detected
[04:17] <cows> now DSL wont boot up
[04:17] <LOWER_CASE> Cosmo__: yes, used 'em for years, but don't install their Disk Manager to the hard drive.  It screws with the boot, and won't be visible if you move the drive to another machine.
[04:17] <Skiff> bruenig, didnt get detected with mine
[04:17] <cows> i wonder if its the syslinux program because last time i tried to boot up DSL i was using syslinux for windows
[04:17] <tim167> ror, thanks there also was yet another one, but i forgot the name, hence my question :)
[04:17] <tich> the gnome clock doesn't do anything nice.  the kde clock has analog and fuzzy.  i would love to have a fuzzy gnome clock but would settle for an analog one.
[04:17] <dsnyders> RAOF, Wait.  Let me read the link you gave me and get back to you.
[04:17] <RAOF> dsnyders: Yes.  Or, just use /dev/hdb, and update that when and if it gets migrated to /dev/sdb
[04:18] <ror> Jordan_U, that's not just because of volume, it's because Dell get paid by ppl like norton etc to put on junk demos and trial software
[04:18] <Skiff> broedj1, can i install drivers manually?
[04:18] <xcd> im looking for a good gtk music plaeyr, what does anyone really like? (besides rhythmbox)
[04:18] <lordofthepigs> It seems that the bugs.ubuntu.com suggests using UUID instead of hda, hdb to name the partitions: How can I find out the UUID of a partition?
[04:18] <Paddy_EIRE> tich, are you running beryl/compiz
[04:18] <dsnyders> RAOF, I hope it's if, not when.
[04:18] <clyde> anyone help me sut up internet sharing network??
[04:18] <cows> idk but recently when i boot up the computer it says like sb: driver write cache
[04:18] <dsnyders> RAOF, just my point of view, of course.
[04:18] <tich> Paddy_EIRE: no. my computer is just a little to slow to run it.
[04:18] <deniel> da
[04:18] <Surf24> cows: I,m assuming that the space you have on the USB is adequate to allow the install in terms of size.   Your not trying a
[04:18] <cows> something related to the sdb
[04:18] <Jordan_U> ror, How does that explain the fact that their Ubuntu comps are cheap too ( cheaper in fact than the junkware ridden windows counterparts ) ?
[04:19] <cows> trying wt?
[04:19] <Paddy_EIRE> tich, oh, you could try gdesklets
[04:19] <cows> its a 2gig stick btw
[04:19] <RAOF> dsnyders: libata is actually maintained :).  You really want your disk subsystem to be maintained :)
[04:19] <tich> Paddy_EIRE: will compiz offer me some hope?
[04:19] <Surf24> cows; A dual boot situation.
[04:19] <tich> Paddy_EIRE: i don't love gdesklets, but maybe for the clock i will have to.
[04:19] <Paddy_EIRE> tich, compiz and beryl let you run cairo clock and that sure is pretty
[04:19] <dsnyders> RAOF, what do you mean by maintained?  Are you talking about smartctl?
[04:19] <cows> hmm
[04:20] <cows> i have been windows free for 2 months
[04:20] <cows> i only have grub and grub has 3 entries
[04:20] <clyde__> anyone help me sut up internet sharing network??
[04:20] <cows> default ubuntu entries
[04:20] <tich> Paddy_EIRE: does it do fuzzy time?  that would make my day.
[04:20] <RAOF> dsnyders: No, I mean "no one is really maintaining the kernel IDE subsystem, and hasn't for some time.  It's old and crusty.  Libata is faster, better, and actively maintained"
[04:20] <tarelerulz> What does vista take to run well, how fast processor and memorie and what does beryl need running at full , see though , cube ?
[04:20] <ror> Jordan_U, Dell are pushing linux'tops because they want it to take off; MS have really pissed them off by saying no more XP licences sold after feb 08
[04:20] <Paddy_EIRE> tich, not sure?
[04:20] <tich> Paddy_EIRE: i would pretty much buy new computer for it!
[04:21] <ror> and I guess advertising can't cover *all* the cost of the windows licenses, but covers a lot of it I guess
[04:21] <strabes_> tich: the KDE clock applet in the toolbar has fuzzy time
[04:21] <dsnyders> RAOF, Ah!  True.  I would like it to be maintained that way... but not if they keep moving my drives on me :-)
[04:21] <clyde__> anyone help me sut up internet sharing network??
[04:21] <LOWER_CASE> updating to Feisty Fawn broke my sound driver: what do I do next to diagnose/fix this. please?
[04:21] <Jordan_U> !sound | LOWER_CASE
[04:21] <ubotu> LOWER_CASE: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:21] <ror> clyde, look up ip masquerade for help with ICS on linux
[04:21] <Surf24> cows:Try a wipe and re-install.
[04:22] <kestri> is there a log file for all of the "update" install information. if so, where is it?
[04:22] <chump> lordofthepigs: use ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -l to see what UUIDs were associated with what devices.
[04:22] <clyde__> at ubuntu site?
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> I am really finding my time with ubuntu unreliable and will not be recommending this until quite a list of problems have been solved
[04:23] <tarelerulz> I have two gig processor and 512 ram and I run beryl with all the fixing and I would like to know if That is enough to run vista ad full. I want to know if beryl that much better ?
[04:23] <Paddy_EIRE> should be marked unstable
[04:23] <LOWER_CASE> obutu: thanks: two dialogs appeared, (red no-entry) "The volume control did not find any elements and/or devices to control." Second one is similar for GStreamer.
[04:23] <clyde> lookup @ ubuntu site?
[04:23] <kestri> same here. i just installed some updates and now i can't boot with the new kernel
[04:23] <ror> vista chokes with less than a gig of ram
[04:24] <Krazy_> so where do i look to see if all my drivers will work before i install
[04:24] <kestri> is there a log file for the updates????
[04:24] <source_> hey everyone
[04:25] <chump> clyde : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370 << amazing what google can find.
[04:25] <source_> i got a quick question. i have just got wine and how do install wow<world of warcraft> with it
[04:25] <pp> kestri: less /var/log/dpkg.log for log of updates
[04:25] <clyde> thank you
[04:25] <Hellevator> Paddy_EIRE, Beryl/compiz is still in Beta. Its expected that it will not work perfectly
[04:25] <kestri> thanks
[04:25] <kestri> pp: thanks
[04:26] <Paddy_EIRE> Hellevator, i was talking about the os in general, who mentioned beryl
[04:26] <tarelerulz> When you get beryl working right is great. I think is is well worth it.
[04:26] <Hellevator> Paddy_EIRE, oh you mentioned it a couple messages ago i thought thats what you were referring to.
[04:26] <smokestack> hey guys -- is there a way to mount ISO files from feisty?
[04:26] <Jordan_U> !iso | smokestack
[04:26] <ubotu> smokestack: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:27] <smokestack> jordan_U: thanks
[04:27] <melman101> Hey all. I installed the newest kernel, and now my sd card is close to working. when i put in a card i get a /dev/mmcblk0 but it still won't mount (mount -t vfat /dev/mmcblk0 /mnt/sdcard) It's a Ricoh R5C822 SD Card Reader built into a laptop (Dell D420). Any suggestions? I plugged in my USB SD card reader and it mounted automagically.
[04:27] <source_> can anyone help me get wow install to ubuntu 6.10
[04:27] <Jordan_U> smokestack, np
[04:27] <kestri> what is the name of the boot loader file and where is it located?
[04:28] <Jordan_U> kestri, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:28] <kestri> Jordan_U, thanks
[04:28] <Jordan_U> kestri, What are you trying to do?
[04:29] <kestri> Jordan_U, when I update my Ubuntu some stuff got lost and screwed up. Now I can't boot into windows
[04:30] <sdf> hi how can i change bootscreen?
[04:30] <Jordan_U> kestri, Is the option not there in the menu when you boot or does it just not boot?
[04:30] <Paddy_EIRE> crimsun, you there??
[04:30] <sdf> i mean the first screen that appear when i start the computer
[04:31] <hanasaki> how do i restart had?
[04:31] <rummik> is pidgin in the repositories yet?
[04:31] <hanasaki> hald?
[04:31] <rollerskatejamms> Is there a place I can find a list of the differences between the server and generic kernels?
[04:31] <sdf> why anyone want help me?
[04:31] <cows_> hmmm
[04:31] <Surf24> Surf24 signing off nite al;l.
[04:32] <cows_> cya
[04:32] <cows_> wow
[04:32] <sdf> i mean why no one
[04:32] <cows_> idk wathappen i think my xchat froze
[04:32] <cows_> and i didnt receive any messages
[04:32] <Jordan_U> rummik, No, but there is a .deb for it a getdeb.net
[04:32] <PurpZeY> My network manager just frozen up and killed itself, but I am still connected to the net, can someone just give me the command to reopen it via term? or via gui?
[04:32] <sdf> why no one want help me?
[04:32] <eliasz> hi guys, i was wondering if ubuntu server comes with rsync and rdiff by default, i need to setup some backups from multiple windows and OSX machines(just a few files not entire disk), and i want the backup server to run linux, and have found some good howto's on backing up using rsync
[04:32] <kestri> Jordan_U, the option isn't there. The other weird thing is that I can't boot into kernel version 2.6.20-15-generic since it hangs when loading devices, i am using kernel 2.6.20-15-generic right now. I'm pretty sure it was fine before... that or I was using -15 the whole time
[04:32] <Jordan_U> PurpZeY, nm-applet &
[04:33] <Paddy_EIRE> !ask | sdf
[04:33] <ubotu> sdf: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:33] <kestri> Jordan_U, sorry. i meant to say that -16 hangs
[04:33] <cows_> ok so anyone knows why my flash drive wont boot
[04:33] <cows_> ?
[04:33] <cows_> can installing grub to the MBR mess up flash drive booting?
[04:33] <Jordan_U> cows, No
[04:33] <drivera90> can anyone link me to feisty alternative install torrent?
[04:33] <sdf> paddy_etre how can i change boot screen?
[04:33] <lockd> cows_: check the boot order
[04:33] <cows_> i only have 1 boot order
[04:34] <tarelerulz> Hay guys what is the just chat part of ubuntu?
[04:34] <cows_> i have 3 slots but i disabled # 2 and #3
[04:34] <cows_> and only left #1 to the hdd
[04:34] <Jordan_U> cows, Unless you installed it to the MBR or the flash drive of course
[04:34] <cows_> i usually just
[04:34] <cows_> press F8 for boot menu
[04:34] <defjux> tarelerulz: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:34] <cows_> and select the flash drive
[04:34] <sdf> paddy_etre i mean the first screen that appear when the computer start
[04:34] <cows_> i do same thing for booting the CD ROM and it works
[04:34] <Jordan_U> tarelerulz, What do you mean by "just chat part" ?
[04:35] <riddlebox> what is a good gnome app to pull photos off of a digital camera
[04:35] <defjux> i have a concern, i want to install windows on a partition, but i want to be able to boot ubuntu afterward. i am running feisty and have a dapper cd.
[04:35] <PurpZeY> Jordan_U: I ran that command, but then the applet dies when I shut the term, what do I add so it stays running?
[04:35] <tarelerulz> I mean I don't want help I just wanted to talk about my love of Ubuntu
[04:35] <Paddy_EIRE> sdf, I am not to sure on how to change the grub boot splash, try google for a bit
[04:35] <defjux> tarelerulz: #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:35] <Jordan_U> PurpZeY, You put the "&" at the end?
[04:35] <lockd> defjux: you will have to reinstall grub to its partition
[04:35] <EADG> sdf: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=82835
[04:35] <lockd> defjux: err, to the MBR
[04:36] <PurpZeY> Jordan_U: nm-applet &
[04:36] <defjux> lockd, ok am i going to be able to run ubuntu to do that?
[04:36] <defjux> what is mbr?
[04:36] <sdf> EADG thank you very much
[04:36] <Jordan_U> PurpZeY, run screen then run nm-applet
[04:36] <lockd> defjux: use a Live CD
[04:36] <cows_> do you have to have windows installed so that syslinux works since syslinux is working with the windows fat partition
[04:36] <dsnyders> defjux, you could install vmware or qemu and run windows in an emulated environment
[04:36] <lockd> defjux: it's GRUB, easy to do that.. lilo is a bit tricky because of where its conf is
[04:36] <PurpZeY> Jordan_U: Yup, that did it, thanks. What does screen do?
[04:37] <ward__> if i install something with checkinstall, does it automatically generate a .deb ?
[04:37] <defjux> dsnyders: not enough ram atm
[04:37] <tonyy> poningru: Could you do some LVM handholding?  I'm on the Live CD now.
[04:37] <defjux> thanks bbl :)
[04:37] <dsnyders> defjux, Yeah,  Same here.  There must be an epidemic or something :-)
[04:37] <kestri> does Ubuntu log restarts anywhere? that would help me a lot right now
[04:38] <lockd> defjux: just mount /path/to/bootpartition /boot, then do grub-install /dev/hda (or whatever the first HD is)
[04:38] <drivera90> can anyone link me to feisty alternative install torrent?
[04:38] <Jordan_U> PurpZeY, It creates a new shell which is independent of shell you start it with, so you can run screen again from another terminal and use it to "reconnect" to that shell ( useful for ssh among other things )
[04:38] <Paddy_EIRE> could anyone help me get my sound working AGAIN without pointing me to !alsa
[04:38] <tonyy> !torrents | drivera90
[04:38] <ubotu> drivera90: Torrent downloads for the Ubuntu ISOs are available on all the download pages. For Feisty: http://releases.ubuntu.com/feisty/ (CDs) or http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/7.04/release/ (DVDs)
[04:39] <ward__> if i install something with checkinstall, does it automatically generate a .deb ?
[04:39] <host_> how do I get X to use a better refresh rate
[04:39] <Jordan_U> ward__, Yes
[04:39] <host_> it won't go over 54 hz
[04:39] <cows_> host_: edit the xorg.conf
[04:39] <ward__> Jordan_U, thanks
[04:39] <Jordan_U> host_, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:39] <ward__> Jordan_U, in the current dir i presume?
[04:39] <host_> Jordan_U, I just did that
[04:39] <pegel-linux> beryl dodolzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[04:39] <tonyy> /ignore #ubuntu joins,parts,quits
[04:39] <lockd> ward__: it can make whatever package type you want - but in reality it only generates .debs
[04:40] <kestri> I guess what I meant to say if does Ubuntu log times of start-ups, restarts, and shutdowns anywhere?
[04:40] <host_> and I edited the vertical sync and horizontal refresh and it's still the same
[04:40] <ward__> lockd, thats good because i want a deb if this works :-)
[04:40] <Jordan_U> ward__, I think so, it also installs the .deb it creates automatically I believe
[04:40] <dsnyders> kestri, try /var/log/dmesg
[04:40] <ward__> Jordan_U, ok thanx
[04:40] <kestri> dsnyders, thanks
[04:40] <lockd> ward__: that is a handy tool, never heard of it
[04:40] <illriginal> poningru... still don't see anything with my wireless connection
[04:41] <Pollywog> how do I get into GRUB when the machine boots, isn't it with the esc key?
[04:41] <host_> cows_, what am I looking for it it?
[04:41] <host_> int it*
[04:41] <ward__> lockd, me neither untill earlyer today :-)
[04:41] <Pollywog> I edited fstab but I get "Error 22"
[04:41] <cows_> host_: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:41] <ward__> lockd, its in synaptic, and u just type sudo checkinstall instead of make install
[04:41] <dsnyders> kestri, You may also want to look at /var/log/messages
[04:41] <cows_> host_: scroll down to screens
[04:41] <Hellevator> I just wanted to say that I just bought a macbook online :)! But not to worry I'm still going to run linux on my desktop.
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Pollywog, Yes, it is with the escape key
[04:42] <lockd> ward__: thought it was sudo checkinstall make install
[04:42] <Pollywog> Jordan_U: ty it does not work
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Hellevator, Ubuntu runs great on Macbooks :)
[04:42] <ward__> lockd, well sudo checkinstall worked here
[04:42] <cows_> host_:actually go down to 'monitor'
[04:42] <Jordan_U> Pollywog, What happens instead?
[04:42] <ward__> Jordan_U, how does it run on power-pc macs?
[04:42] <cows_> host_: i think your looking for the vertrefres
[04:42] <cows_> host_: and sync
[04:43] <ward__> Jordan_U, i mean a macbook also
[04:43] <host_> cows_,  it's VertRefresh	56-76
[04:43] <ward__> Jordan_U, with 512 ram
[04:43] <Pollywog> nothing it just stalls with error 22 right after the version of GRUB shows
[04:43] <harry_> are there free/open eterprise content management systems for linux?
[04:43] <Jordan_U> ward__, Fairly well, it's not officially supported though ( macbook is not PPC though )
[04:43] <host_> cows_, but it's still only allowing me to go to 54 hz
[04:43] <ward__> Jordan_U, i mean a laptop :-)
[04:43] <host_> I didn'ty restart, I just killed X and let it reboot after I made the change
[04:43] <redcard> harry_: About a billion of them
[04:43] <cows_> host_,  hmm weird try what jordan said to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:43] <redcard> harry_: Whatcha looking for?
[04:43] <ward__> Jordan_U, i'm not into mac myself, but a friend has one, i'm thinking of installing him ubuntu when hes back from japan
[04:43] <kestri> actually, I was looking for a log file of multiple times of start-ups, shutdowns, and restarts. Not just information on what happened during the last one.
[04:44] <ward__> Jordan_U, i thought it was supported, only oldworld macs arent?
[04:44] <Jordan_U> ward__, It used to be, but they recently dropped PPC support
[04:44] <ward__> and he has the last generation of power-pc macs
[04:44] <ward__> Jordan_U, why? :s
[04:44] <redcard> ward__: Small numbers of users
[04:44] <Jordan_U> ward__, Probably had to do with Apple switching to intel
[04:45] <ward__> redcard, they don't give me the chance to get them some more users ! :p
[04:45] <c0llisi0n> So I followed the ATI FireGL guide and even consulted the troubleshooting guide.
[04:45] <c0llisi0n> My ATI FireGL doesn't seem to be recognized by Ubuntu.
[04:45] <harry_> redcard: Actually, not too much. I want a system that will organize all of my files (such as the stuff I do for school), and ECM is kinda overkill, but I like overkill.
[04:45] <c0llisi0n> Well, I can't seem to configure it at least.
[04:45] <ward__> Jordan_U, yeah but many people have a fairly modern ppc-mac...
[04:45] <Pollywog> I think the problem is the mbr
[04:45] <neil_feisty> !shipit
[04:45] <ubotu> shipit is a service that sends free Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Edubuntu CDs. See http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ and http://shipit.kubuntu.org and http://shipit.edubuntu.org - Shipit will send Feisty (7.04) CDs
[04:45] <acidblue> apple should of switch to amd
[04:45] <redcard> ward__: Well,unfortunatly for all the "good" that apple's products have.. they certainly make it hard to use different OSs
[04:45] <dsnyders> kestri, I don't think that info is logged by default, apart from /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/messages
[04:45] <Jordan_U> ward__, They still have builds for PPC, it just isn't officially supported
[04:45] <Pollywog> just shipit - sounds like a song
[04:46] <will__5> hello
[04:46] <ward__> redcard, lol i don't liek apple either, but still
[04:46] <redcard> harry_: Oh.. hmm.
[04:46] <ward__> redcard, those poor users are ripped off, and now they cant even run ubuntu :p
[04:46] <Pollywog> nothing it just stalls with error 22 right after the version of GRUB shows  - I think it is the mbr
[04:46] <redcard> ward__: I liked apple, until I realized that liking apple made me an elitist jerk.
[04:46] <c0llisi0n> I tried to run aticonfig but it always ends with the message: Found firegl primary device section Nothing to do. Terminating.
[04:46] <Pollywog> how can I fix my mbr without a reinstall?
[04:46] <Jordan_U> ward__, On PPC though you basically can't use anything proprietary, so depending on the person that may not be acceptable
[04:46] <Zoiks> if anyone has any ideas about auto mounting and or ipods please have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2739499
[04:46] <rollerskatejamms> Pollywog, boot off the live cd and grub-install
[04:46] <ward__> redcard, i don't like the apple hardware at all, the OS is allright
[04:46] <Zoiks> thanks
[04:47] <Pollywog> rollerskatejamms: ty I will have to download the live cd
[04:47] <ward__> redcard, in fact i had the OS running on my laptop :p
[04:47] <rollerskatejamms> Zoiks, My ipod didnt work until I installed the updates from the proposed repo
[04:47] <ward__> just to test out
[04:47] <redcard> ward__: The OS is blah.  They basically take Opensource ideas and pretend like it's something they came up with
[04:47] <dsnyders> kestri, you could always write your own scripts and tie them in the init.d and event.d processes.
[04:47] <c0llisi0n> Anyone have any recommendations on getting my FireGL to work?
[04:47] <rollerskatejamms> Pollywog, Yeah, installed windows second didjya?
[04:47] <Pollywog> no
[04:47] <rollerskatejamms> c0llisi0n, Replace it with an nvidia card
[04:47] <Zoiks> rollerskatejamms: please give me more details?
[04:47] <Pollywog> that is not it
[04:47] <harry_> redcard: Also, something that would hep me learn to use things that would be useful later on (like SQL databases or something) would be good.
[04:47] <illriginal> Anyone know if the new update is safe to download and install?!?!
[04:47] <c0llisi0n> *LOL* It's on a laptop.
[04:47] <kestri> dsnyders, it appears that there are multiple logs for dmesg which kind of helps. I'm just curious. I a dmesg file written for both start-up and shutdown, or just one or the other?
[04:47] <Pollywog> I moved paritions around
[04:47] <rollerskatejamms> Zoiks, the proposed repository has a bunch of hal updates
[04:47] <Pollywog> partitions
[04:48] <rollerskatejamms> Zoiks, seemed to fix it
[04:48] <Zoiks> how do i get that?
[04:48] <c0llisi0n> Anyone got any ideas?
[04:48] <ward__> redcard, lol its stable and it works, thats what an OS should do
[04:48] <c0llisi0n> Could I uninstall the ATI drivers, then attempt a re-install?
[04:48] <lockd> which is harder, building (cross-compiling) for a new CPU architecture or a new GPU?
[04:48] <pwnguin> anyone know the "Right" way to bring a newer kernel to feisty? i'd like to try out some newer features in 2.6.21, but i dont know what all patches against vanilla ubuntu uses that i need for my laptop =/
[04:48] <redcard> ward__: It unnerved me when I discovered that Ubuntu offers me more than Apple :)
[04:48] <ward__> redcard, everyone stole the window interface from the OS that first used it (wichever that is)
[04:48] <c0llisi0n> The ATI drivers popped up in the restricted drivers, I enabled it, and it doesn't seem to do anything.
[04:48] <dsnyders> kestri, As far as I know (which ain't that far) it is just the startup.  However, there should be clues in /var/log/messages about shutdowns.
[04:49] <ward__> c0llisi0n, what did u expect? :p
[04:49] <c0llisi0n> ward_, what do you mean? ;)
[04:50] <c0llisi0n> I'm experimenting with Ubuntu for now... I want to get it working on the laptop before I go out and put it on a custom desktop.
[04:50] <rollerskatejamms> God I love linux. I'm running my laptop with a constant load of 5 and 80% cpu usage for the last 6 hours with no problem. just chugging right along
[04:50] <ward__> c0llisi0n, u installed display drivers, its normal, it should look just like before, only now u use other drivers
[04:50] <c0llisi0n> And of course, I don't think I'll be putting an ATI card in the damn thing. ;)
[04:50] <redcard> ward__: It's kinda different now.  I mean, being an apple fan meant I had to pretend that Apple's "innovations" were new
[04:50] <c0llisi0n> It used to work though. The resolution is too small for the screen.
[04:50] <redcard> But, anyway, back to linux
[04:50] <fogwar> hey i have java installed but its not working with firefox?
[04:50] <ward__> redcard, apple doesn't innovate :-)
[04:51] <rollerskatejamms> fogwar, install the mozilla plugin
[04:51] <rollerskatejamms> fogos, its in the repositories
[04:51] <nickrud> redcard, that was xerox iirc
[04:51] <fogwar> rollerskatejamms: yeah but the plugin isnt available
[04:51] <fogwar> rollerskatejamms: from mozilla webvsite?
[04:51] <redcard> nickrud: It was.
[04:51] <Zoiks> rollerskatejamms: i enabled the proposed repository im now downloading all the updates
[04:51] <lockd> just realized there was aptitude command, pretty handy
[04:51] <cables> isn't opera in the commercial repo?
[04:51] <ward__> c0llisi0n, didn't you need to restart after enabling the restricted drivers?
[04:51] <rollerskatejamms> fogwar, no, sun-java6-plugin is the name of the package
[04:51] <nickrud> although someone did a wood mouse in the late sixties
[04:51] <rollerskatejamms> Zoiks, It *could* break the system though
[04:51] <Zoiks> is that all you had to do or did you have to install specific things rollerskatejamms
[04:52] <rollerskatejamms> Zoiks, thats all i had to do. and once you install the updates, DISABLE the proposed repository. you dont want to keep getting those.
[04:52] <Zoiks> ok
[04:52] <rollerskatejamms> pwnguin, well once they gpl it, main probably
[04:52] <pwnguin> rollerskatejamms: what's left?
[04:52] <rollerskatejamms> pwnguin, no idea.
[04:52] <Zoiks> it did not look like it downloaded anything to do with hal though rollerskatejamms
[04:52] <lockd> rollerskatejamms: GPL what?
[04:52] <pwnguin> rollerskatejamms: im pretty sure they declared themselves done at java1
[04:52] <rollerskatejamms> lockd, java
[04:53] <rollerskatejamms> Zoiks, well thats what fixed it for me, thats all i know man. you might be having a different issue
[04:53] <lockd> rollerskatejamms: oh, all I have installed is the default java (which is gnu classpath afaict)
[04:53] <vwov> what's up with this http cache cleaner script, how do i disable it?
[04:53] <pwnguin> lockd: from what i can tell, gnu classpath is aiming to fold shop and work on official java
[04:54] <lockd> pwnguin: you mean, still staying closed source?
[04:54] <pwnguin> lockd: what?
[04:54] <Zoiks> rollerskatejamms: it did not work, thanks anyway
[04:55] <lockd> pwnguin: is sun java staying closed source
[04:55] <pwnguin> lockd: ...no?
[04:55] <sldkfj> what's hpiod in the netstat?
[04:55] <fogwar> rollerskatejamms: yeah but im still not getting it to work
[04:56] <Lapinux> guess i will have to install from my 6.10 cd, damn 7.04 gives an error
[04:56] <llol> hello folks
[04:56] <Cosmo__> I am building a new computer(AMD 64 x2, 2 Gforce 7300 in SLI) it has been awhile since I built a system on power supplys is there any special features/stats I should be looking for? also will a 600W be enough?
[04:56] <defender> Is there some handy program (gui or CL) to list the properties (size, file system) of all my physical drives? Too many SDAs...
[04:57] <chainlynx> Cosmo__: more RAM = better
[04:57] <Hellevator> Cosmo__, you need to make sure the power supply supports SLI
[04:57] <llol> anyone know how would go by on reducing the password size from 6 to 5 letters?
[04:57] <enoex> 600w should be fine, wouldnt go much less since you're using 2 vid cards
[04:57] <RAOF> Cosmo__: Woah!  600W?  That'll certainly be enough :)
[04:57] <Hellevator> no, for SLI you definitely need 600W
[04:57] <Gnea> RAOF: for SLI?
[04:57] <llol> probably more
[04:57] <Cosmo__> chainlynx: yeah planning on going with 3gig of ram
[04:57] <sldkfj> I've got 'hpiod' 'cups' & 'python' in the netstat.  Just asking, "what is 'hpiod?'"   (Don't be afraid, we won't get off into a 25 minute argument.)
[04:57] <llol> cards each nowadays require at least 315 minimum
[04:57] <enoex> yeah...wouldnt go much less than 600w prolly
[04:58] <llol> thats for one card
[04:58] <RAOF> Ok, maybe I'm a little bit out of date.  Still, gfx cards top out at ~100W each, right?  Especially non-ultra-top-of-the-line cards, like the 7300.
[04:58] <Gnea> sldkfj: HP's driver daemon
[04:58] <llol> even those
[04:58] <llol> 300 watt minimum
[04:58] <enoex> better to have more than not enough
[04:59] <llol> once they start suckin juice if the voltage to the memory drops during load
[04:59] <dsnyders> Is there a tool for editing/regenerating fstab entries now that it uses UUIDs, or is it a cut/paste job?
[04:59] <sldkfj> gnea, is that the plugnplay thingy?
[04:59] <Cosmo__> 600W is the lowest I plan on going just wasn't sure if I needed more
[04:59] <llol> you have a crash
[04:59] <Gnea> !sli
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sli - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <llol> get between 700 to 800
[04:59] <llol> to be safe
[04:59] <Gnea> oops
[04:59] <linuxnoob> i had probems to install kubuntu vom boot cd -if i click on start/install kubuntu i become that "kernel alive - kernel direkt mapping tables to .......... " message and than i had a blackscreen and nothing is doing
[04:59] <llol> do the math every fan counts 30 watts here and there add up
[05:00] <Gnea> Scan Line Interleaving, a technique for using 2 or more 3D processors in parallel. Each processor renders a little part of the scanlines in the final image. Gives you more fps.
[05:00] <RAOF> ...as long as the drivers support it.
[05:00] <llol> hey peeps anyone know how to reduce the password size?
[05:00] <RAOF> Also, that's not how it works now :)
[05:00] <Gnea> RAOF: it's nvidia, they support it.
[05:00] <llol> hehe old school 3dfx technology
[05:00] <llol> :0)
[05:00] <Cosmo__> and in some cases can out preform a single high end card (depending on the situation)
[05:01] <RAOF> Gnea: Yeah, but for the programs you want to run?  Last I heard (which was *some* time ago), the nvidia drivers had to explicitly support SLI with the app you wanted to use
[05:01] <llol> 3dfx was the first to do that stuff
[05:01] <spacx> Hello everyone.  Does anyone know if you can still access windows files after installing ubuntu (not dual booting)
[05:01] <llol> yep
[05:01] <pwnguin> lockd: http://www.sun.com/software/opensource/java/
[05:01] <spacx> how?
[05:01] <RAOF> spacey: Yes.  Check out the private message from ubotu
[05:01] <Gnea> RAOF: and you heard this from where?
[05:01] <RAOF> !ntfs-config > spacx
[05:01] <redcard>  Access, yes.  Execute, not so much
[05:02] <spacx> can you save it?
[05:02] <RAOF> Gnea: From like, the internets.  Fairly reputable sites, I think (hardocp, anandtech?)
[05:02] <eX|Hoser> guys, whats the best repo to sign onto?
[05:02] <Gnea> sldkfj: er, no, hpoid detects and handles the communication for the printer, so that it can pass I/O to cups, so that you can... print :)
[05:02] <RAOF> spacx: Yes, you can read/write to windows files.
[05:02] <Gnea> RAOF: please, show me a url.
[05:02] <eck> eX|Hoser: what do you mean?
[05:02] <RAOF> Gnea: I can't.  As I said, *some* time ago :)
[05:02] <redcard> spacx: What.. version of windows?
[05:02] <spacx> how?
[05:02] <Gnea> RAOF: then i don't believe you. :)
[05:02] <spacx> xp
[05:03] <eX|Hoser> eck: Nevermind.
[05:03] <fogwar> RAOF: i dont know why im still not being able to view my java in firefox?
[05:03] <pwnguin> uh, the nvidia drivers have to specifically enable most modes, because it can break games if universally applied
[05:04] <pwnguin> not to mention SLI is a stupid ugly hack
[05:04] <Gnea> yes, you do have to make sure that your game supports SLI or you could have a problem
[05:05] <RAOF> Gnea: Bwa ha ha!  Google to the rescue!  http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=2358&p=21
[05:05] <RAOF> Gnea: Still, a somewhat old link :)
[05:05] <pwnguin> if you want more info, i suggest /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-new/README.txt.gz
[05:05] <spacx> Ubuntu was installed over windows.  Is it possible to recover those old windows files?
[05:05] <RAOF> fogwar: Do you have the firefox java plugin installed.
[05:05] <RAOF> spacx: If it's on the same partition, no.
[05:05] <Gnea> spacx: sure
[05:05] <Gnea> RAOF: yes, he can.
[05:06] <pwnguin> that'd be some strong magic
[05:06] <fogwar> raof: i apparantly cant find it for somer eason ive downloaded a few things
[05:06] <eck> spacx: if it was on the same partition, your best bet would be to reformat the partition as fat and trya  fat recovery tool
[05:06] <redcard> How does one install Ubuntu over Windows?
[05:06] <spacx> Thank You
[05:06] <pwnguin> redcard: delete the partition table and give the whole disk to ubuntu ;)
[05:07] <pwnguin> but your chances for data recovery are... not so good
[05:07] <RAOF> Gnea: Really?  If he's installed Ubuntu on the same partition as windows was?  At best, he'll recover some fraction of his files.
[05:07] <Gnea> pwnguin: not really, as long as it wasn't zero'd out before being repartitioned, the data will still remain on the platters.
[05:07] <tonyy> I need help resizing LVM partitions.  Can't even get started, sadly.
[05:07] <RAOF> Yeah, but quite a lot will have been overwritten.
[05:07] <Gnea> RAOF: true, it's a matter of chance
[05:07] <pwnguin> Gnea: and after ubuntu was installed? that's a lot of files that are definately not zeros
[05:07] <redcard> Gnea: For all intents and purposes, a general user is not going to get their data back after doing that
[05:07] <RAOF> tonyy: It's nice and easy.  You go "sudo lvextend" :)
[05:08] <Chetwin> Hey all.  Every time I install a new prog, the icons are missing in the gnome menu.. Any advice?
[05:08] <redcard> We can talk about technical possibility, but, that's pretty irrelevent with end users
[05:08] <tonyy> RAOF: "No program "lvextend" found for your current version of LVM"
[05:08] <RAOF> tonyy: If you want to extend the underlying LVM system, that's slightly different.  What exactly are you trying to do.
[05:08] <Gnea> redcard: it depends how valuable that information is.
[05:08] <eck> Chetwin: most programs will never install icons in the menu
[05:08] <pwnguin> if its valuable enough to bother with, its lkely valuable enough to take to experts :P
[05:08] <Chetwin> eck: What can I do?
[05:08] <tonyy> RAOF: I have sda2 as a pile of disk space, subdivided to become my /home, /, /multimedia, etc.  I need to steal space from one and give it to another within that.
[05:08] <redcard> Gnea: Well, like I said.  Differences between "technically possible/feasible" and "end user possible"
[05:09] <RAOF> tonyy: So, where is the LVM in that?
[05:09] <Gnea> pwnguin: but if ubuntu has the programs within it to get the job done, why bother?
[05:09] <eck> Chetwin: i guess it depends what the progarm is, many programs are cli only so they don't need a menu entyr
[05:09] <lockd> Chetwin: right click, edit menus, and add it where you want it
[05:09] <lockd> Chetwin: whoops, eck^
[05:09] <justin_> hello
[05:09] <lockd> eck: ^^
[05:09] <cs679> hw do i installl ubuntu on a vista operating system and how do i install the drives on ubuntu 7.04 to get wireles internet
[05:09] <pwnguin> Gnea: aside from the part where you don't want ubuntu running on rw mounted media
[05:09] <RAOF> Gnea: Because by using the system you will be killing the data you are trying to find.  The safest thing would be to pull the harddrive, and take it to an expert.
[05:09] <Chetwin> lockd: usually removing it and then readding it fixes the issue, but in feisty it doesn't seem to work
[05:09] <justin_> yeah i have to reinstall
[05:10] <justin_> i keep getting an error when i go into synaptic
[05:10] <lockd> Chetwin: removing what? hopefully not the package
[05:10] <lockd> Chetwin: waste to remove a package just for the entry
[05:10] <dsnyders> Is there a way to re-run fstab?
[05:10] <Chetwin> lockd: No, the entry from the apps menu
[05:10] <pwnguin> Gnea: there's also the fact that, and having used them i think i can say this, aren't very friendly
[05:11] <Mikeh> How do I use Wine?
[05:11] <Gnea> pwnguin: you mean, they're not user-friendly?
[05:11] <lockd> Chetwin: I always had to do it manually
[05:11] <RAOF> dsnyders: In what way "re run"?  "sudo mount -a" will attempt to re-mount everything in fstab.
[05:11] <Gnea> Mikeh: wine <program.exe>
[05:11] <redcard> Gnea: They're not very friendly at all.
[05:11] <redcard> Gnea: User or otherwise
[05:11] <Mikeh> even for installers Gnea ?
[05:11] <pwnguin> Gnea: i dislike that phrase. im a CS grad student, and they're not really fun
[05:11] <Chetwin> lockd:  The only way I've gotten around it was to download an icon to a folder in my home dir and link it
[05:11] <sldkfj> Gnea, I see, it works with cups.   thanks
[05:11] <Chetwin> But it's such a pain to do every time
[05:11] <Gnea> sldkfj: no problem, have fun
[05:12] <tonyy> RAOF: Well, let's see if I can remember this right...  I have one actual disk, split into two partitions by normal means - I believe that would be two "physical volumes" then.  Only one of those has any lvm stuff then.  Under that, there is one volume group, and numerous logical volumes.  I need to shrink one logical volume and increase another to fill the space.
[05:12] <sldkfj> will do
[05:12] <justin_> hey can someone help me rel fast so i dont have to reinstall?
[05:12] <greyfrog> !ask | justin_
[05:12] <ubotu> justin_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:12] <Chetwin> lockd: Take banshee for instance.  Why the h would it be missing it's icon
[05:12] <redcard> I'm not even really convinced that the data recovery stuff for windows partitions on Ubuntu work at all.
[05:12] <jason_> i have a 845G intergrated chips how i install OpenGL for it
[05:12] <Gnea> pwnguin: if they can retrieve the desired data, what's not friendly about that?
[05:12] <dsnyders> RAOF, I just put the UUIDs in for my unconverted drives.  I want to re-mount everything to test it before rebooting.  mount -a sounds like what I need.
[05:12] <pwnguin> Gnea: have you used them at all?
[05:12] <eck> jason_: you already have it
[05:12] <Gnea> pwnguin: yes.
[05:12] <pwnguin> Gnea: name one tool.
[05:13] <RAOF> tonyy: Ah, that makes more sense.  So, since you need to shrink at least one of your LVs, you'll need to have that volume unmounted.
[05:13] <tonyy> RAOF: I'm on a Live CD atm, so everything is.
[05:13] <Cosmo__> does this seem like a good power supply for this new system I am building? http://www.apevia.com/product.php?pid=213&xcSID=a41c8f8ede8c349ebc4f960cae4f0f57
[05:13] <jason_> but open gl games r slow and choppy
[05:13] <RAOF> tonyy: Awesome.  However, the livecd doesn't start LVM :)
[05:13] <Gnea> pwnguin: foremost
[05:13] <ramatieg> How do I remove a 'not fully installed' package using apt-get ?
[05:13] <RAOF> tonyy: So, I *belive* you'll need to install the lvm2 package, then run "sudo /etc/init.d/lvm-common start", or something like that.
[05:13] <jason_> sudo apt-get remove
[05:14] <ramatieg> jason_: Doesn't work
[05:14] <justin_> ok well i went to enable my restricted graphics driver like usual but it says "the package virtualbox needs to be reinstalled but i cant find the archive for it" it says that when i try to get into synaptic too and i used automatix to uninstall it but it still gives me this error
[05:15] <qiyong> how to specify proxy for aptitude?
[05:15] <ramatieg> http://dpaste.com/11213/
[05:15] <RAOF> tonyy: Then you want to shrink the filesystem on the LV.  That'll need to be either "resize2fs" or "resize_reiserfs", depending on the filesystem (ext2/3 or reiser).  If it's not one of those two, then I'm not sure how you can resize the fs :)
[05:15] <Phuz> what is the package name for the java runtime environment?
[05:15] <jason_> why is OpenGl Games slow for
[05:15] <ramatieg> Phuz: Which one?
[05:15] <Phuz> ramatieg, for Firefosx
[05:16] <tonyy> RAOF: Ah, the init start was the step I was missing I think.
[05:16] <Gnea> !java | Phuz
[05:16] <ubotu> Phuz: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[05:16] <lockd> why is libdvdcss restricted, well, in another repository?
[05:16] <tonyy> RAOF: resize2fs works for ext3, ya?
[05:16] <redcard> I somewhat doubt that the common user can really use Foremost, Gnea.
[05:16] <RAOF> lockd: Because it's illegal almost everywhere
[05:16] <pwnguin> Gnea: i recall really hating the config file to foremost, but it's been so long since i bothered with it
[05:16] <justin_> unknown error:'<type 'exceptions system error'>
[05:16] <RAOF> tonyy: Yes.  At least, that's what the man page says :)
[05:16] <pwnguin> dd is never fun
[05:16] <ramatieg> lockd: Or at least, in the only country that seems to matter
[05:16] <redcard> pwnguin: Nothing has changed with regards to that file.  It still has the joy and charm of a military written program
[05:16] <eck> lockd: anything in restricted doesn't comply with the terms of the dfsg
[05:16] <pwnguin> but it's not a problem when you're not using campus windows boxes
[05:16] <lockd> RAOF: oh right, and mirrors
[05:17] <pwnguin> redcard: well, it is, isn't it?
[05:17] <greyfrog> justin_: not sure what to say really... automatix seems to have screwed something up.... here's what ubotu says about automatix
[05:17] <RAOF> ramatieg: Where "the only country that seems to matter" == {the USA, any country that's signed a FTA with the US in the last 5 years, Germany, Australia, etc}
[05:17] <greyfrog> !automatix | justin_
[05:17] <ubotu> justin_: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:17] <redcard> pwnguin: Yeah. And that's kinda sarcastic.  I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
[05:18] <pwnguin> redcard: of course, they're the only ones interested in writing this stuff that badly
[05:18] <lockd> RAOF: ramatieg: darn FTAs
[05:18] <ramatieg> RAOF: Sorry: Only country that seems to matter + those that they've bullied
[05:18] <justin_> yeah thats what i thought i should do.
[05:18] <lockd> RAOF: ramatieg: at least, I don't have the FBI on my tail after several months of using it
[05:18] <greyfrog> justin_: sorry man, maybe someone else here knows the answer
[05:18] <pwnguin> the rest of us upload everything important to an ftp and let the world be our backup ;)
[05:18] <tonyy> RAOF: Do you know how to calculate sizes in blocks?
[05:18] <Skiff> any1 can help me setup sound, I have ac97 built=in into nforce 2 mobo
[05:19] <Gnea> pwnguin: i just kind of ignored the config file since i could just replace it with a new one if need be.
[05:19] <greyfrog> justin_: good luck!
[05:19] <RAOF> tonyy: Uurgh.  No.  Doesn't resize2fs support using something sane, like GB?
[05:19] <Fitzsimmons> anyone have any luck with Democracy Player?  it hangs on startup for me
[05:19] <tonyy> RAOF: Maybe it does - the tutorial I'm reading could well be outdated.  Time for some man page reading.
[05:19] <justin_> well you see i told automatix to install it but it kept asking to overwrite virtualbox since i guess it already exsisted but in the longrun it doesnt seem to be searchable anywhere on the system.
[05:19] <redcard> Fitzsimmons: Heh.  Democracy is rather odd at times.
[05:19] <Mikeh> works here Fitzsimmons, just a bit glitchy
[05:20] <ramatieg> Fitzsimmons: It wasn't working for me last time I tried it. I think there was a bug filed on launchpad.
[05:20] <RAOF> Fitzsimmons: You're obviously on i386.  I'm the guy who's been doing the mergeing/bugfixing for democracyplayer, and it works just fine on my amd64 box.
[05:20] <redcard> When it works, it's cool. When it doesn't, it sucks.
[05:20] <Gnea> Fitzsimmons: democracy player is one of the biggest jokes, it worked right the first time around and even after i removed the config directory, it never worked right after then either.
[05:20] <Fitzsimmons> haha
[05:20] <Noodlesgc> is there like an ubuntu software iso that i can download with like tons of common software and drivers?
[05:20] <Fitzsimmons> thanks everyone, I'll just leave it for another year and try again ;)
[05:20] <redcard> And it doesn't work a lot more than it works.
[05:20] <wb32> hello
[05:20] <pwnguin> RAOF: if that wasn't the most obvious "it works fine for me" reply ever ;)
[05:20] <justin_> automatix works just fine with MOST programs but not with virtualbox
[05:20] <RAOF> Everyone should just migrate to amd64.  Democracyplayer works just fine on amd64 :P
[05:20] <Gnea> RAOF: amd64 dosn't count, it's not mainstream yet.
[05:21] <Mikeh> Noodlesgc, check the CD you installed from, it has alot more than you would think
[05:21] <lockd> can't VLC handle all the fancy streaming and such?
[05:21] <pwnguin> amd64 doesn't count till youtube plays in gnuflash
[05:21] <Noodlesgc> yeah it has some
[05:21] <Gnea> and if you refuse to support both platforms, then you're a joke of a maintainer.
[05:21] <Noodlesgc> but not like gstreamer
[05:21] <Noodlesgc> plugins
[05:21] <justin_> Well looks like it's time to backup and reinstall fellas
[05:21] <Gnea> RAOF: not everyone can afford to.
[05:21] <RAOF> Gnea: No, it's not that I'm refusing to support both platforms.  I just *don't know* why it doesn't work on i386!
[05:22] <justin_> thanks for the help
[05:22] <ramatieg> Does anyone know how to uninstall a package with a broken pre-uninst script?
[05:22] <ramatieg> pre-removal rather
[05:22] <Mikeh> restricted apps will not be included in the main ubuntu distributions Noodlesgc
[05:22] <pwnguin> RAOF: you could at least the direct the dude to the launchpad bugs page :P
[05:22] <Noodlesgc> but is there a seperate iso file somewhere?
[05:22] <Gnea> RAOF: what sort of error reports do you pay attention to?
[05:22] <wb32> tried to upgrad to fiety got encountered errors how do i check version
[05:23] <Mikeh> there is "ubuntu ultimate edition" but it's not official ubuntu Noodlesgc
[05:23] <Gnea> ramatieg: can you paste the entire error on pastebin?
[05:23] <jaypro> i just installed something using wine.  how do i find the executable?
[05:23] <Gnea> !pasetbin | ramatieg
[05:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pasetbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:23] <ramatieg> Gnea: http://dpaste.com/11213/
[05:23] <RAOF> Gnea: I *am* paying attention to that bug.  But I can't single-handedly fix democracyplayer.  None of the upstream versions work properly on feisty.
[05:23] <Noodlesgc> is that cd or dvd and where can i get it?
[05:24] <ramatieg> Gnea: It didn't install completely because of broken pre-inst scripts. I just want to get rid of it now
[05:24] <tonyy> RAOF: How can I list their current sizes without mounting to get an idea of what to resize to?
[05:24] <RAOF> Gnea: As soon as there's a version of democracy player that is released and actually *works* with python2.5/recent dbus I'll package it up.
[05:24] <Lapinux> anyone know of any issues installing ubuntu on a dell precision 530 workstation? i cant get the install to work
[05:24] <RAOF> tonyy: I don't know.  I think you'll have to mount.
[05:24] <Mikeh> I think it's a DVD, and if you search google for "ubuntu ultimate" you will find it Noodlesgc
[05:24] <tonyy> RAOF: 'k
[05:24] <Noodlesgc> thnx
[05:24] <illriginal> Hey guys, I have Ubuntu Feisty, and I Just got an update message, but it's for a newer version? It's a "ubuntu generic" update with a few other updates to go with it. Is it safe to download and install? Or should I wait to see if people have any problems with it?
[05:24] <ramatieg> Democracy player is such a good idea but so badly implemented
[05:24] <jaypro> i installed something using wine.  how do i find the directory in which the program is installed?
[05:24] <Gnea> RAOF: i think we have part of the problem right there-> http://dpaste.com/11213/
[05:24] <Mikeh> Noodlesgc, http://ubuntusoftware.info/ultimate/
[05:25] <Gnea> ramatieg: try this: dpkg -r reportbug    do you get the same error?
[05:26] <fogwar> im having a lot of trouble installing java for some reason, i cant locate the firefox plugin
[05:26] <ramatieg> Gnea: Same error
[05:26] <Unievo> hey everyone
[05:26] <tucuna> can someone tell me what the approx. max. temp. would be for a Celeron M 370 1.5GHz in a laptop? cant google anything useful..
[05:26] <illriginal> Hey guys, I have Ubuntu Feisty, and I Just got an update message, but it's for a newer version? It's a "ubuntu generic" update with a few other updates to go with it. Is it safe to download and install? Or should I wait to see if people have any problems with it?
[05:26] <tucuna> go for it!
[05:26] <Gnea> ramatieg: ok, now try: dpkg -r --force-all reportbug
[05:26] <tucuna> it's a new kernel
[05:27] <rummik> there was a creation error for my sound card at boot, is there any way i can make the sound work right?
[05:27] <tucuna> illriginal - say yes
[05:27] <tucuna> it's a new kernel
[05:27] <tucuna> go for it!
[05:27] <crimsun> rummik: you never told me what the actual error is
[05:27] <ramatieg> Gnea: How risky is that? This is my gateway and it's late...
[05:27] <Unievo> can beryl work well with ATI Radeon X1300 card??
[05:27] <illriginal> last time i had edgy eft and uh... i tried to update with feisty through update... and uhm it messed with my video card.
[05:27] <c0llisi0n> Got the proper screen resolution now. :)
[05:27] <RAOF> Unievo: Yes, and join #ubuntu-effects for support
[05:28] <ramatieg> Gnea: Screw it, I'll do it anyway
[05:28] <Gnea> ramatieg: it's only reportbug, it's not vital to the running system
[05:28] <Unievo> thanx RAOF
[05:28] <fogwar> !java firefox plugin
[05:28] <c0llisi0n> Now I'm curious as to how I re-install my Linux restricted drivers.
[05:28] <Gnea> lol
[05:28] <c0llisi0n> I'm trying to get Beryl to work.
[05:28] <rummik> crimsun: how do i find it, dmesg just says "[   29.884000]  ali mixer 1 creating error."
[05:28] <fogwar> !firefox plugin
[05:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about firefox plugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:28] <ramatieg> Gnea: I was more worried about 'forcing' and breaking something
[05:28] <ramatieg> (i.e. apt)
[05:28] <Gnea> ramatieg: no need, since apt is just a front-end to dpkg
[05:29] <c0llisi0n> How do I reinstall the restricted drivers?
[05:29] <ramatieg> Gnea: Same error
[05:29] <ben_> does anyone know what this means: Could not initialize the package information
[05:29] <ben_> A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[05:29] <ben_> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[05:29] <ben_> 'E:Problem parsing dependency Depends, E:Error occurred while processing thekompany-support (NewVersion1), E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/www.getautomatix.com_apt_dists_feisty_main_binary-i386_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[05:29] <RAOF> !paste > ben_
[05:29] <ben_> sorry.
[05:29] <RAOF> !automatix | ben_
[05:29] <c0llisi0n> *restricted modules
[05:29] <ubotu> ben_: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:30] <crimsun> rummik: pastebin /proc/interrupts contents
[05:30] <Unievo> so i can just use apt-get install beryl??
[05:31] <ben_> thanks ubotu
[05:31] <rummik> crimsun: ok
[05:31] <gan|y|med> hi
[05:31] <aldin> anyone in mood to help me set mailserver postfix? i have account on dyndns.org, and have install postfix, put someusername.dyndns.org for MailName
[05:32] <gan|y|med> i have applied a kernel patch and got a few rejections. just in general, are those critical to functionality?
[05:32] <Gnea> aldin: have you tried #postfix?
[05:32] <aldin> Gnea: no, i will give it try now
[05:32] <Gnea> ramatieg: still looking...
[05:32] <RAOF> gan|y|med: Owch.  If a patch doesn't apply cleanly, chances are it won't build.
[05:33] <Pollywog> I used parted to reoranize my partitions and now the machine will not boot, grub says error 22
[05:33] <rummik> crimsun: http://rafb.net/p/68qbvg20.html
[05:33] <jason_> ok install the i945 driver for my 845g intergraded chip and they said it work alot better in linux that way
[05:33] <ramatieg> Gnea: Don't worry about it too much. I'll look through the install scripts tomorrow to try and pin down the error
[05:33] <jason_> how i do this
[05:33] <Pollywog> I think the mbr is the problem... is a reinstall the only way out?
[05:33] <gan|y|med> RAOF: but assuming that it does, would you think it does sth "bad" afterwards?
[05:33] <RAOF> gan|y|med: And even if it *does* build, you really don't want to use it, since you can't be sure that it'll work correctly.
[05:33] <crimsun> rummik: um, that device sure is sharing an irq with a lot of other devices
[05:33] <gan|y|med> ok
[05:33] <pwnguin> anyone know the "Right" way to bring a newer kernel to feisty? i'd like to try out some newer features in 2.6.21, but i dont know what all patches against vanilla ubuntu uses that i need for my laptop =/
[05:33] <Gnea> ramatieg: cd /var/lib/dpkg/info && ls -l reportbug*
[05:33] <Pollywog> I am d/l the live cd now in case that would help
[05:33] <|_DeL_|> someone can help me?
[05:33] <newpZ> hi all, i have 2 pcmca wifi cards, both worj for a while then die... can anyone help me out... here is my dmesg http://pastebin.ca/517740
[05:33] <efritz> i need help with my wifi
[05:33] <gan|y|med> thx
[05:33] <efritz> i have no wireless
[05:33] <RAOF> gan|y|med: I certainly wouldn't.  The kernel is able to do bad things to your hardware, in some circumstances.
[05:34] <efritz> i have no restricted drivers to install
[05:34] <Gnea> ramatieg: ok
[05:34] <rummik> crimsun: that doesn't sound good
[05:34] <crimsun> rummik: does pci=routeirq help?
[05:34] <goban> how do i find and edit my crontab entries?
[05:34] <Gnea> goban: crontab -e
[05:34] <Pollywog> goban: user crontab?
[05:34] <gan|y|med> hmm, does anybody have experience with the low latency patch from indo molnar and how to apply it to the kernel??
[05:34] <rummik> crimsun: tell that to grub?
[05:34] <efritz> I need help with my wifi running Fiesty on an Intel MacBook Pro.  I have no restricted drivers to enable and I already have madwifi-tools but I can't get it to show up on any prompt, and it always says ath0 no card or something.  What can I do?!
[05:34] <gan|y|med> ingo, sry
[05:34] <|_DeL_|> i need to install ubuntu in a 32bit where i can download the program?
[05:35] <crimsun> rummik: sure, or just append it to the kernel command line on boot.
[05:35] <efritz> PLEASE MSG ME WITH AN ANSWER
[05:35] <dr_willis> |_DeL_|,  that dident make much sence
[05:35] <Gnea> !wireless | efritz
[05:35] <mary-kate> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[05:35] <ubotu> efritz: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:35] <mary-kate> at that site
[05:35] <ramatieg> Gnea: Yeah I will debug it tomorrow (were you just pointing me to the prerm scripts?)
[05:35] <RAOF> gan|y|med: Doesn't the -lowlatency kernel have those patches?
[05:36] <gan|y|med> dunno
[05:36] <Gnea> ramatieg: yeah, that's all of the scripts and files for it, actually
[05:36] <Pollywog> will grub-install fix my mbr?
[05:36] <gan|y|med> but doesn't seem very fast to me
[05:36] <crimsun> RAOF: / gan|y|med: no.  -lowlatency differs from -generic only in preempt kernel config setting.
[05:36] <ramatieg> Gnea: Okay, thanks for the help
[05:36] <Gnea> ramatieg: you're welcome, good luck
[05:36] <crimsun> gan|y|med: if you want -rt, you need to read the topic of #ubuntustudio.
[05:36] <goban> Gnea, thanks how do i write when done
[05:36] <mary-kate> if you download and install the 32bit version it should
[05:36] <gan|y|med> crimsun: i thought so. that's why i am building my own
[05:36] <mary-kate> but i don't know
[05:36] <jaypro> okay! anyone know how to find the executable of a program that was installed using wine?
[05:36] <nickrud> Pollywog, if you want grub to boot your system, it'll point the mbr at your /boot/grub/menu.lst, yes
[05:36] <Gnea> goban: depends what editor you're using
[05:37] <crimsun> gan|y|med: eh, there's one already built.  I'd not waste any additional time.
[05:37] <goban> Gnea, it defaulted to vi
[05:37] <Pollywog> nickrud: ty
[05:37] <Gnea> goban: sounds good, just press ESC then :wq
[05:37] <goban> which im clueless on :(
[05:37] <gan|y|med> crimsun: where?
[05:37] <gan|y|med> crimsun: in the repos?
[05:37] <crimsun> gan|y|med: again, read the topic in #ubuntustudio
[05:37] <Sedorox> has anyone tried to install IBM's Tivoli client into ubuntu?
[05:37] <Pollywog> I moved partitions around because I ran out of space on /
[05:37] <gan|y|med> crimsun: why again?
 it say that my cpu doesent support long mode and i need to use a 32bit distribution..????
[05:38] <Pollywog> and that caused the machine not to boot
[05:38] <crimsun> gan|y|med: because I've already stated it once :)
[05:38] <madman91> hey guys.. whos norwegian in here?
[05:38] <Pollywog> not because I installed XP after Linux
[05:38] <pspinler> Sedorox: no sorry.  only redhat and suse.  what version of ubuntu and kernel?  and which version of tivoli?
[05:38] <mary-kate> oh there's a #ubuntustudio too? hehe i should join! lol
[05:38] <nickrud> goban, you can run sudo update-alternatives --config editor , and choose nano. Much easier
[05:38] <gan|y|med> crimsun: oh, sry. missed that one. trying to find add info
[05:38] <Pollywog> nano easier than vim?
[05:39] <RAOF> Yes.
[05:39] <Gnea> Pollywog: for new users, yes
[05:39] <Pollywog> the first thing I do when I install Linux is change editor to vim
[05:39] <Pollywog> oic
[05:39] <Gnea> LOL
[05:39] <goban> nickrud, thanks
[05:39] <The-Loko> err. where can i download nvidia video display drivers?
[05:39] <pwnguin> just use gedit :P
[05:39] <nickrud> goban, first thing I do is set it to vim ;)
[05:39] <Gnea> !nvidia | The-Loko
[05:39] <ubotu> The-Loko: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:39] <goban> Pollywog, you acually use that? eeg
[05:39] <Wagner-> mary-kate when i fired up ubuntu today, it asked to install 30 updates, that's a nice feature
[05:39] <compfreak219> where can I find an original file of sources.list for edgy eft?
[05:40] <goban> seemed almost unusable
[05:40] <gan|y|med> crimsun: it's down?
[05:40] <RAOF> !easysource | compfreak219
[05:40] <ubotu> compfreak219: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
 it says that my cpu doesent support long mode and i need to use a 32bit distribution..????
[05:40] <Pollywog> nano seems that way to me
[05:40] <Pollywog> unusable
[05:40] <compfreak219> tyvm :)
[05:40] <Sedorox> pspinler: Ubuntu: 6.06 LTS, 2.6.15-28-AMD64-server & 2.6.15-28-686 (2 servers, one AMD64, the other x86), 5.4.0.0 of tivoli
[05:40] <Gnea> VIM is the *BEST* editor ever (especially since they added decent syntax highlighting!)
[05:40] <nickrud> for quick system editing of a few lines, nano is nice.
[05:40] <wb32> dose anyone know how to check version leval
[05:41] <nickrud> wb32, lsb_release -a
[05:41] <|_DeL_|> it says that my cpu doesent support long mode and i need to use a 32bit distribution..  ?  someone can help???
[05:41] <Sedorox> I'm converting with alien over to .deb's... but I'm having issues converting the TVIsm-HSM package... errors on some xml pakages.. and everything BUT the API64 package errors on the amd64 box.. lol
[05:41] <Gnea> wb32: version level of?
[05:41] <nickrud> wb32, if I read your mind correctly :)
[05:41] <Hellevator> The-Loko, use Envy to install nvidia drivers, http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[05:41] <wb32> ubuntu
[05:41] <bruenig> Sedorox, using alien is a terrible idea
[05:41] <RAOF> |_DeL_|: You should download/install the i386 version, not the amd64 version.
[05:41] <eck> Sedorox: you will likely need to convert things yourself, in my experience alien is sort of hit or miss
[05:42] <mary-kate> ooh i just learned a new command
[05:42] <mary-kate> hehe
[05:42] <Gnea> wb32: what nickrud said
[05:42] <wb32> tried to upgrade internet whent down now i have problems
[05:42] <Pollywog> Alien is logical to use, when one is desperate
[05:42] <Sedorox> eck: ahh.. ok
 thanx ...
[05:42] <Pollywog> but one has to be desperate
[05:42] <Sedorox> bruenig: hmm.. what do you suggest?
[05:42] <RAOF> building from source > alien, generally :)
[05:42] <bruenig> Sedorox, compile or deb
 did u know where i can get tha version from?
[05:43] <Gnea> RAOF: i loathe generalizations :)
[05:43] <Sedorox> bruenig: neither is an option
[05:43] <Sedorox> unfortinatly (sp)
 did u know where i can get tha version from?(i386)
[05:43] <pspinler> Sedorox, IIRC, the kernel's I've installed on are 2.6.1[89] , so I'm guessing it would run okay.   It does want to install some rpm's though, those may be a problem.  Otherwise, I'm guessing it would probably run okay
[05:43] <wb32> that did not work
[05:43] <bruenig> Sedorox, what is the package
[05:43] <Sedorox> I got it to install in a test vm... I guess I have to see what is wrong
[05:43] <Sedorox> bruenig: IBM's Tivoli backup client
[05:44] <bruenig> oh proprietary garbage, no wonder they only put it out in rpm
[05:44] <Sedorox> yea...
[05:44] <pspinler> Sedorox, sorry, I have the tivoli monitoring, not backup.  no help here. :-S
[05:44] <newpZ> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2739767#post2739767
[05:44] <Sedorox> ah ok :/
[05:44] <Sedorox> thanks anyway
[05:44] <compfreak219> !ati
[05:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:45] <craigbass1976> Can anyone give me a hand printing in Firefox.  I have a pagex I saved, and I got the pagex-files folder too.  It doesn't look right in the print preview though.  Ok, forget it.  I open up in OO and it looks fine.  Anyone knwo how to get rid of a blank page when the usual methods don't work?
[05:45] <RAOF> !download > |_DeL_| <--- Check the link in the private message from ubotu
[05:45] <|_DeL_|> thanx
[05:46] <mary-kate> is ubuntu very hard to hack? (i hope so)
[05:46] <Pawba> The whole point in using Linux is that it's very easy to hack.
[05:46] <bruenig> linux is hard to hack
[05:46] <Morpheus_74> I installed Xubuntu 7.04, and now want to switch the the Gnome desktop.  Is there any difference if I installed the Gnome desktop on top of Xubuntu, or do a fresh install of Ubuntu 7.04?
[05:46] <nickrud> rflol
[05:46] <madman91> WHO LIVES IN norway?
[05:46] <mary-kate> good
[05:46] <Pawba> madman91: Norwegians
[05:46] <bruenig> Pawba, I assume he means hack into not hack from
[05:46] <RAOF> Morpheus_74: Not really.
[05:47] <nickrud> mary-kate, hard to crack, easy to hack ;)
[05:47] <Morpheus_74> RA
[05:47] <Pawba> bruenig: I was meaning hack as in "to modify"
[05:47] <Pawba> I didn't know 'hack' had so many meanings. :P
[05:47] <mary-kate> bummer, lol
[05:47] <mary-kate> that's ok i don't have any personal info anyway :P
[05:47] <Pawba> mary-kate: OS security is only as good as it's operator, anyway.
[05:48] <mary-kate> true
[05:48] <nj786> what program copies dvds
[05:48] <bruenig> nj786, xdvdshrink
[05:48] <Morpheus_74> RAOF: My main reasoning for doing this is I'm having issues with my graphical display (cannot get to display 1074 X 768 @ 85 hz).  Will this be the same under Ubuntu?  Do both desktops use the same xorg file?
[05:48] <mary-kate> i only have 2 ports open, 1 for vnc, and 1 for http (which i have a password for vnc)
[05:48] <pspinler> Help please!  I've messed up my sound, and now get no output!  Recent fresh install of feisty -- system sounds played okay.  Wanted to get firefox flash plugin sound working, and in process, I messed with pulseaudio daemon.  Now, system produces no sound, even after hard power cycle.  Crit info: lscpi: 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401] : Creative Labs SB Audigy LS [1102:0007]  -- lsmod | grep snd: snd_ca0106, snd_ac97_c
[05:48] <pspinler> odec (snip...); dmesg | grep ca0106:  snd-ca0106: Model 100a Rev 00000000 Serial 100a1102
[05:49] <nj786> bruenig, where can i dl this?
[05:49] <Cosmo__> does this seem like a good power supply for this new system I am building?  http://www.apevia.com/product.php?pid=213&xcSID=a41c8f8ede8c349ebc4f960cae4f0f57
[05:49] <mary-kate> Adobe Flash Player works well
[05:49] <nickrud> l
[05:49] <nickrud> la
[05:49] <nickrud> eek
[05:49] <RAOF> Morpheus_74: Yes, they'll use the same file.  However, are you using nvidia?
[05:49] <mary-kate> when i first got ubuntu going i reinstalled ubuntu because i screwed up a lot
[05:50] <bruenig> nj786, http://www.google.com/search?q=xdvdshrink
[05:50] <Morpheus_74> RAOF: No.  I have an old Intel I740 PCI card.
[05:50] <RAOF> Oh, ok.  So it's not the stupid nvidia drivers, then :)
[05:51] <nj786> bruenig, i want to copy a dvd onto a dvd+r disc will i be pable to?
[05:51] <nj786> able*
[05:51] <eck> Morpheus_74: you should be fine, in my experience intel cards (especially the old ones) will just work
[05:51] <aldin> server1.example.com, what this server1 means ( iam aseting postfix so i been asked for this)
[05:51] <bruenig> nj786, are you talking about a movie or just data
[05:51] <illriginal> Can someone help me with my Belkin USB Wireless Adapter Model: FSD7050?
[05:52] <craigbass1976> What's the password (if you've never set one up) to go into the cups admin (localhost:631) and mess with jobs?
[05:52] <nj786> bruenig, movie
[05:52] <bruenig> nj786, http://www.google.com/search?q=xdvdshrink
[05:52] <nj786> bruenig, movie
[05:52] <Morpheus_74> eck: I had the display working fine under 6.06, but since upgrading to 7.04, and switching to Xubuntu, I spent many hours trying to get a display that does not hurt my eyes, but to no avail.
[05:52] <bruenig> nj786, http://www.google.com/search?q=xdvdshrink
[05:52] <pspinler> craigbass1976, just your normal user account and password, I expect
[05:52] <|_DeL_|> someone know the link to the download for i386  ?
[05:52] <dsnyders> !gconfd
[05:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gconfd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <Pollywog> aldin: put your hostname there
[05:53] <eck> Morpheus_74: you might try using the intel drivers, instead of the i810 drivers
[05:53] <mary-kate> i found out, you can log on as root, just by typing sudo -i and typing your password, :D
[05:53] <mary-kate> from reading sudo man_root
[05:53] <|_DeL_|> !i386
[05:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:53] <eck> change the driver line in your xorg.conf to intel rather than i810
[05:53] <newpZ> can anyone help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2739767#post2739767
[05:53] <Pollywog> !postfix
[05:53] <pspinler> any helpers for sound problem I posted?  please?
[05:53] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[05:53] <craigbass1976> pspinler, no good.  I'll see if the GNOME way works.
[05:53] <Morpheus_74> eck: Where can I find and install the intell drivers?
[05:53] <RAOF> |_DeL_|: http://releases.ubuntu.com/7.04/
[05:54] <|_DeL_|> :)
[05:54] <aldin> Pollywog: look i have 'accountname.dyndns.org' what should i put instead server1.example.com
[05:54] <illriginal> Can someone help me with my Belkin USB Wireless Adapter Model: FSD7050?
[05:54] <eck> Morpheus_74: xserver-xorg-video-intel (this is just a guess, it recently fixed an intel graphics issue for me)
[05:54] <Pollywog> you should use accountname.dyndns.org
[05:54] <cables> I've already got Ubuntu installed, and have been using it for a year, but I'm just curious to try the Wubi installer. I know that Wubi uses an image file on the NTFS partition to install to, but will it mess up my bootloader in any way?
[05:55] <Pawba> illovae: Step #1: Go buy a card from www.ubnt.com
[05:55] <Pawba> Step #2: Enjoy
[05:55] <Pollywog> !postfix > aldin
[05:55] <wastedfluid> hey guys; i downloaded a .rar file, adn it's an archived .exe file ... any ideas on how to extract it without going the wine route?
[05:55] <Pollywog> wastedfluid: unrar
[05:55] <Pawba> wastedfluid: www.rarlabs.com
[05:55] <wastedfluid> I downloaded unrear.
[05:55] <Pollywog> install unrar
[05:55] <_nix_> sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:56] <wastedfluid> I went to 'open' - and it wouldn't list the .exe
[05:56] <_nix_> unrar x rarfile.rar
[05:56] <mary-kate> even though a person uses dyndns.org, can they set up vhosts for irc with the hostname they want? or do they need a paid for domain?
[05:56] <wastedfluid> ok; lettme try
[05:56] <otero> How can I parse php code on my ubuntu?
[05:56] <otero> execute
[05:56] <dsnyders> Hi all! I have a bunch of gconfd resolved address xml:readonly lines in my /var/log/messages.  Is this normal?
[05:56] <RAOF> dsnyders: Yes, that's normal.
[05:56] <wastedfluid> Sweet.  unrar x file.exe worked.
[05:56] <wastedfluid> thanks guys
[05:57] <wastedfluid> good night to you all; happy memorial day to those of you who celebrate it.
[05:57] <_nix_> gnite
[05:57] <Pollywog> mary-kate: the dyndns name will not work with IRC
[05:57] <mary-kate> darn
[05:57] <mary-kate> ok
[05:57] <mary-kate> thought i'd ask, i wanted to know this for quite some time, but never had the currage to ask
[05:57] <Pollywog> I think you can get a custom name if you donate
[05:58] <illriginal> Can someone help me with my Belkin USB Wireless Adapter Model: FSD7050?
[05:58] <dsnyders> RAOF, Ok.  BTW reboot seems to have worked fine with UUIDs (after an overdue fsck)
[05:58] <Pollywog> if you donate to Freenode
[05:58] <mary-kate> i know dyndns works for http, i didn't know for sure if it would work for irc or not
[05:58] <pspinler> otero, assuming you have php installed, you can run "php <scriptname.php>" from the command line, or put it into your http doc root, and browse to it
[05:58] <Pollywog> it won't work for IRC because reverse lookups won't work
[05:59] <mary-kate> oh
[05:59] <Cosmo__> I am planing on setting up a home network server with spare computer parts, my question is, can the server also be used as a router? (the linksys wrt54g rev6 I have sucks big time)
[05:59] <Pollywog> but you can still get a custom name by donating to Freenode
[05:59] <nix> Cosmo__: yeah sure
[05:59] <Pawba> Cosmo__: http://www.vyatta.com/
[05:59] <mkquist> anyone know why i cant get past 800x600, just installed nvidia drivers and thats when it changed down to 800
[06:00] <dsnyders> Cosmo__, Absolutely.  I have a Fedora box doing that right now.
[06:00] <mary-kate> i wonder if i could put a different hostname, to my charter, hehe
[06:00] <Pollywog> charter is your isp?
[06:00] <mary-kate> yeah
[06:00] <pspinler> oh well, thanks anyway
[06:00] <Pawba> dsnyders: Are you the guy from Twisted Sister?
[06:00] <Cosmo__> sweet, thanks now we can get rid of this crappy linksys router
[06:00] <Pollywog> it would only work if chartger set it up for you
[06:00] <mary-kate> oh ok
[06:00] <Pollywog> reverse resolution that is
[06:00] <otero> do run php code, I can install apache2, and php5 from synaptic?
[06:00] <crimsun> pspinler: what's the issue?
[06:00] <otero> to
[06:00] <dsnyders> Pawba, I wish!
[06:01] <rummik> it did nothing >.<
[06:01] <Pawba> dsnyders: I'm "esnyder" and I've had someone ask me that before, too. :P
[06:01] <pspinler>  I've messed up my sound, and now get no output!  Recent fresh install of feisty -- system sounds played okay.  Wanted to get firefox flash plugin sound working, and in process, I messed with pulseaudio daemon.  Now, system produces no sound, even after hard power cycle.
[06:01] <pspinler> Crit info: lscpi: 00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller [0401] : Creative Labs SB Audigy LS [1102:0007]  -- lsmod | grep snd: snd_ca0106, snd_ac97_c odec (snip...); dmesg | grep ca0106:  snd-ca0106: Model 100a Rev 00000000 Serial 100a1102
[06:02] <aldin> what ports should i open on router for postfix?
[06:02] <crimsun> pspinler: pastebin amixer
[06:02] <rummik> crimsun: it didn't work, still has the messed up irqs :S
[06:02] <nix> aldin: port 25 if you're doing plain smtp
[06:02] <crimsun> rummik: but is sound audible?
[06:02] <crimsun> rummik: (that's the objective)
[06:03] <rummik> crimsun: nope :(
[06:03] <mkquist> pspinler - do u have more than one soundcard?
[06:03] <nj786> my computer does not read 1 of my cd-rom drives what can i do?
[06:03] <aldin> nix: what about 23 (telnet)
[06:03] <pspinler> crimsun, thanks.  what package is pastebin in ? (e.g. apt-get install what?)
[06:03] <crimsun> !paste > pspinler
[06:03] <nix> aldin: you can have postfix listen on port 23 for smtp connection but that'll break the standard
[06:03] <rummik> crimsun: it had another error at boot, but i can't remember where it was from
[06:03] <pspinler> mkquist, yes.  onboard and pci.  BIOS disabled onboard one
[06:03] <mary-kate> usually i can figure stuff out on my own, but dyndns and irc hosts, i wasn't sure about
[06:03] <jason_> hello everyone
[06:03] <onexused> I can never remember how use for loops in bash.  I remember it's something like "for I in [*.png] ; do <something> I;done", but I keep being told that "I.png" isn't found.  What's the right way to type it?
[06:04] <rummik> crimsun: i think it had something to do with an unsupported chipset of somekind
[06:04] <mary-kate> so thought i'd ask and i'm glad i did because now i know i can't do it
[06:04] <nj786> my computer does not read 1 of my cd-rom drives what can i do?
[06:04] <nix> onexused: example: for i in `ls -1`; do echo $1; done
[06:04] <mary-kate> install a new one, see what that does
[06:04] <mary-kate> it might also be dirty
[06:04] <mary-kate> try cleaning it
[06:04] <rummik> crimsun: most of my stuff is made by ali though...so it's hard to tell what it went to
[06:04] <pspinler> crimsun, amixer output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23026/
[06:04] <nix> onexused: example: for i in `ls -1`; do echo $i; done -- typo
[06:04] <jason_> does anyone know how to set up the dock (osx look-a-like)
[06:05] <Pawba> mary-kate: I think "stop using optics, go solely to flash media" is a good answer, too.
[06:05] <mary-kate> :)
[06:05] <nj786> can anybody help me?
[06:05] <pwnguin> strange question: what's the "right" way to bring a newer kernel into a feisty install?
[06:05] <crimsun> pspinler: amixer -c0   [I presume that's the output with the pulseaudio alsa-lib plugin being used] 
[06:05] <nix> nj786: wussup?
[06:05] <onexused> nix, "[*.png]  not found" ls = lots of .png files
[06:05] <nj786> my computer does not read 1 of my cd-rom drives what can i do?
[06:05] <mary-kate> i'm using Feisty
[06:06] <nj786> nix, my computer does not read 1 of my cd-rom drives what can i do?
[06:06] <mary-kate> it seems more stable than Edgy Eft
[06:06] <crimsun> pwnguin: be more precise, please.  Do you mean a self-compiled one from kernel.org, or do you mean one from another distribution, or ...?
[06:06] <illriginal> i dunno about that mary-kate
[06:06] <mkquist> pspinler - have u looked here, usually helps me  - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449
[06:06] <miyako> hey all, I'm trying to use skype, it was working a little bit ago, and now suddenly nothing - I can hear it in my speakers when I blow into the mic so I know that is working, but no applications are actually recording from the mic suddenly- I checked the mixer in xfce and kmix in kde to ensure that the mic was set correctly and not muted or anything, but still nothing will record from the mic (even though it's detected) anyone got an
[06:06] <illriginal> don't have any problems here so far.
[06:06] <nix> onexused	: remove the [] 
[06:06] <onexused> if I use single quotes, the program acts as if I had entered no filenames
[06:06] <mary-kate> although, my cable on the outside of my house was rotten and my modem wasn't seeing the signal right heh
[06:06] <pwnguin> crimsun: preferrably, one as close to what ubuntu would use as possible. ive no idea what magic patches ubuntu uses that i need, but id like to try out powertop and a tickless kernel.
[06:07] <nix> nj786: what kind of cdrom do you have? IDE?
[06:07] <nj786> nix ,IDE?
[06:07] <crimsun> pwnguin: then just use 2.6.22-5-generic from gutsy.
[06:07] <pwnguin> that didnt go so well
[06:07] <crimsun> details?
[06:07] <onexused> nix, thanks.  I thought I saw single quotes on yours for some reason
[06:08] <pspinler> crimsun, amixer -c0:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23028/,  and re: pulseaudio alsa-lib plugin, don't know.  pulseaudio is running, but don't know which plugins it's using
[06:08] <nix> onexused: they were reverse quotes. the ones above the ~ sign
[06:08] <onexused> oh
[06:08] <pwnguin> crimsun: uuid's appear to be somewhat broken, and it stopped on a line about ACPI. i could have brought it in wrong though
[06:08] <nj786> nix?
[06:08] <crimsun> pspinler: mute 'IEC958'
[06:08] <pspinler> mkquist, thanks for URL.  That's nice.  I was using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[06:08] <nix> onexused: they expand to the output of whatever's in them
[06:09] <crimsun> pwnguin: "somewhat broken"?  I expected something a bit more verbose and precise.
[06:09] <onexused> nix, ah.
[06:09] <jason_> has anyone set up cairo
[06:09] <nix> nj786: ok what error do you get when trying to read that drive?
[06:09] <pegel-linux> how to change the 24x24 of start-here.png icon ?
[06:09] <illriginal> Can someone help me get my Belkin Wireless USB Adapter to work? The Model is FSD7050, supposedly this is a compatible adapter but cannot see a wireless signal!
[06:09] <pegel-linux> i try in 32x32 works
[06:09] <nj786> nix, it doesnt read any cds on that drive it reads the cd on the other cdrom
[06:09] <pegel-linux> but when try in 24x24 failed
[06:09] <crimsun> pwnguin: in any case, there is no "right way" if you go on your own.  Doing that sort of stuff is unsupported by the kernel team anyhow.
[06:09] <mary-kate> ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ), can we paste anything we wanted there? or is that strictly for ubuntu help?
[06:09] <pwnguin> crimsun: it said it couldnt find a /dev/disk/by-uuid/funhexnumber but continued on anyways.
[06:10] <crimsun> pwnguin: that said, you can use kernel-package with any kernel source you wish.
[06:10] <nix> nj786: what happens when you insert a cd in that drive?
[06:10] <nj786> nix, it doesnt read it
[06:10] <Pawba> nj786: Search your dmesg and see if it even IDs.
[06:10] <nj786> nix, and i cannot copy a dvd becuase it doesnt read that drive
[06:10] <mary-kate> nj786, try cleaning both CD and drive, it could just be dirty
[06:11] <rummik> crimsun: is there any way to change the irqs?
[06:11] <pspinler> crimsun, no joy.  still no sound output (testing via System->Preferences->Sound and selecting "Test" button)
[06:11] <plattypus1> Hello, and good evening. I'm trying to convert a friend of mine to Linux and I'm in need of some assistance.
[06:11] <nix> pspinler: hello is that an alsa card? alsamixer should give you some thing to look at. just a suggestion.
[06:12] <crimsun> pspinler: no, you need to use aplay -Dplughw:0 /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav
[06:12] <pwnguin> crimsun: does kernel-package differ from make-kpkg?
[06:12] <nix> pwnguin: make-kpkg is installed from the kernel-package
[06:12] <pspinler> crimsun, aplay: main:550: audio open error: Device or resource busy
[06:12] <crimsun> pspinler: so stop esd or pulseaudio or whatever.
[06:12] <pwnguin> heh, doh
[06:12] <Pawba> plattypus1: Show him Sabayon, and then tell him he's not cool enough to use.  Break the CD.
[06:13] <plattypus1> I'm trying to get orca (the gnome screen reader) to work but it seems to want to either die or hold the only audio channel on the box. I though ESounD would get around that problem, but it seems troubling.
[06:13] <plattypus1> Pawba: Funny.
[06:13] <pwnguin> ok thats wierd
[06:13] <pwnguin> crimsun: so i just rebooted and forgot to pick the old kernel. it works now =/
[06:13] <crimsun> pwnguin: ok.
[06:14] <pwnguin> crimsun: if i have time i guess i'll see about testing more on gutsy
[06:14] <Pawba> plattypus1: I still think the Sabayon thing would be a bit more impressive than Orca.
[06:14] <pwnguin> crimsun: because thats an interesting kind of broken
[06:14] <pspinler> crimsun, killed pulseaudio.  aplay now reports "Playing WAVE ...".  no sound output.  I'm triple checking cables, speaker volume and power
[06:14] <crimsun> pspinler: ok, well, let's kill the stale state file.
[06:14] <pspinler> nix: ty -- alsamixer shows all volumes set at highest settings
[06:14] <plattypus1> Eh, all that cool stuff doesn't look too good to a guy who can't see it.
[06:15] <Pawba> plattypus1: Oh.  Well, that certainly clarifies why you want Orca...  :)
[06:15] <crimsun> pspinler: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*); sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-ca0106
[06:15] <plattypus1> Yeah, I've no trouble but he's totally blind.
[06:16] <mary-kate> OHHH, there is a festival thing in ubuntu
[06:16] <mary-kate> i just never figured it out
[06:16] <plattypus1> And he has to shell out ~$800 every 2 years for screen reading software. I though M$ was bad.
[06:16] <ubunt1> hey
[06:16] <ubunt1> i have router with firewall
[06:16] <Pawba> plattypus1: We had a blind accountant at school.  I don't even want to say how much we spent on accessibility software.
[06:16] <mary-kate> MS is HORRIBLE lol
[06:17] <ubunt1> if i install ubuntu firewall i will be more protected be hacker
[06:17] <plattypus1> Pawba: I figured Linux would provide a welcome escape.
[06:18] <ampache> how do you backup a mysql server?
[06:18] <ward__> can anyone tell me how i can tell where this expects "qapplication.h" please? : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23029/
[06:18] <pspinler> crimsun, that did it!  Thanks much!
[06:18] <ubunt1> with apache
[06:18] <crimsun> pspinler: np.
[06:18] <ubunt1> ot mysqladmin
[06:20] <Pawba> plattypus1: It does, but I haven't set up anything for accessibility in a while.
[06:20] <Pawba> It's been a few years since our accountant graduated.
[06:20] <dsphere4444> hi, i have installed windows 2003 on a partition, and im wondering how to install grub so that i can have a boot option screen or boot to ubuntu what do i do at this point pls??
[06:21] <plattypus1> Pawba: I thik at root it's an esound problem.
[06:21] <[BreliC] > silly question.. how do i change the themes in compiz (and, as an extension, how do i install new ones)?
[06:21] <[BreliC] > i tried googling but never really got anywhere
[06:21] <hydan> hey guys, i was wondering if there's a way to upgrade gaim to pidgin w/out messing w/ dependencies and w/out having both programs installed
[06:21] <dsphere4444> brelic maybe #ubuntu-effects could answer that they are experts on compiz beryl etc
[06:21] <[BreliC] > i put some new compiz themes in the /usr/share/themes directory, but they don't seem to be available (probably because they're not metacity.. hehe)
[06:21] <tha_tha88> palembang
[06:22] <[BreliC] > dsphere4444, ok, thanks
[06:22] <dsphere4444> how do i boot ubuntu after installing windows to a partition pls?
[06:22] <su> Hey there, I am a noob and trying to figure out how to install ntfs-g3
[06:23] <ubunt1> !firestarter
[06:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[06:23] <yadda> ok... i think i've boned myself pretty good.
[06:23] <ubunt1> hey i have router with firewall do i need firestarter
[06:23] <su> I typed in gksu /gedit /ect/apt/sources.list
[06:23] <dr_willis> ubunt1,  depends on how paranoid you want to be. I dont worry about it. :)
[06:24] <yadda> how do i give administrative privlidges back to myself in the command line?
[06:24] <su> into the terminal, and then wget http://flomertens.keo.in/ubuntu/givre_key.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[06:24] <LinuxHelp> Is it possible to run JFS in a mode similar to "data=ordered" in ext3?
[06:24] <ubunt1> dr_willis: yo uare paranoid,we need to be protected by the hacker
[06:24] <dr_willis> yadda,  how did you lose them>?
[06:24] <ubunt1> dr_willis: you
[06:24] <yadda> think i clicked a wrong option in the GUI user manager
[06:25] <w00taliter> hey my audio is not working any more any advice
[06:25] <yadda> it was late....
[06:25] <NemesisD> anyone know of a program available for ubuntu that will expand .sit.hqx file (mac)
[06:25] <dr_willis> ubunt1,  if you want a secure system - dont just rely on the router. but it also is  a MUST to learn how/what  securing a system means. not just relying on some front end/firewall to do it.
[06:25] <yadda> but all of my admin options are gone from my system menu
[06:25] <ubunt1> dr_willis: i want to protect ubuntu no to hack the password is that possible
[06:26] <ward__> can anyone tell me how i can tell where this expects "qapplication.h" please? : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23029/
[06:26] <dr_willis> ubunt1,  ubuntu is very well protected by default.. Its your windows box's that willbe the big problem - not ubuntu
[06:26] <yadda> amen dr_willis
[06:26] <w00taliter> hey my audio is not working any more any advice ?
[06:27] <Pawba> dr_willis: Nonsense.  ubuntu is just as succeptible to password cracks.
[06:27] <hydan> is there a way to install pidgin and remove gaim w/out dependency hell?
[06:27] <fotoflo> im having some problems with apt-get
[06:27] <ubunt1> dr_willis: i remember that someone say that someone hack his computer
[06:27] <mary-kate> windows is blah, heh
[06:27] <beford> !ati
[06:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:27] <Pollywog> where do I get the live cd, I got the desktop install cd
[06:27] <Pollywog> ?
[06:27] <hydan> oh yeah. sorry guys.
[06:27] <tuxican> hello, is there are reason why "sudo dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sda" wouldn't work and would cause no hd activity?
[06:27] <Pawba> Pollywog: It's one and the same.
[06:27] <plattypus1> Okay... woot, narrowed down the problem to the gnome accessibility module.
[06:27] <ubunt1> dr_willis: and he write it here in the irc.
[06:27] <biotrox> I noticed that there's a lot of trojan/malware/spyware in my ubuntu. what application should i use to remove them..? please help
[06:28] <Pollywog> PawbaI thought so
[06:28] <plattypus1> It seems to keep crashing. Anyone know anything about gnome accessibility?
[06:28] <ward__> Pollywog, its the same cd ...
[06:28] <bruenig> tuxican, stop that
[06:28] <ubunt1> dr_willis: what can you say about that case?
[06:28] <rummik> is there any way to change the device irqs?
[06:28] <fotoflo> i tried to install rpm and it told me Errors were encountered while processing:sasl2-bin
[06:28] <w00taliter> !audio
[06:28] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:28] <dr_willis> ubunt1,  for the truely truely security paranoid thers those   SElinux things.. and other ways.
[06:28] <bruenig> fotoflo, don't try to install rpm
[06:28] <rummik> the bios don't give any way to change it...
[06:28] <yadda> ok... i know i'm a doofus for doing it... but how can i give myself my administrator privileges back from the terminal?
[06:28] <dr_willis> ubunt1,  with the right setup - even having the root password wont mean much
[06:28] <bruenig> yadda, sudo?
[06:29] <dr_willis> ubunt1,  of course doing any changes to the system will be a real hassle as well. :) but thats the point
[06:29] <ubunt1> dr_willis: ok now what can i need to do,to be protected ?
[06:29] <fotoflo> bruenig, why not
[06:29] <fotoflo> ?
[06:29] <danielDOM> Can anyone give me a hand with installing nvidia drivers ? it keeps telling me to switch back and forth between init 1 an d3 and gets no where
[06:29] <Pollywog> how do I use the live cd to fix my mbr?
[06:29] <dr_willis> ubunt1,  learn/use sudo as it should be used.. use a good password - will be a HUGE step in being protected.
[06:29] <bruenig> fotoflo, because it means breakage often
[06:29] <yadda> yes.. i can do that in command line, but all of my administrative options are gone from my System > Administration menu
[06:29] <Pollywog> just run grub-install?
[06:29] <dr_willis> ubunt1,  set up ya router to block anything/everything ya dont need.
[06:29] <Tom_Kun> is it true that I need to remove grub to use hotplug?
[06:29] <ubunt1> dr_willis: password like what?
[06:30] <ubunt1> dr_willis: how long need to be the password?
[06:30] <dr_willis> ubunt1,  a good Secure password. :) time to do some googling :)
[06:30] <dr_willis> like K7k&^2n2947mnalwtnwjh1273ma9127344
[06:30] <dr_willis> :)
[06:30] <Pawba> ubunt1: Use a null password.  No one ever tries that first...
[06:30] <dr_willis> and then some
[06:30] <ubunt1> dr_willis: ok i will it.
[06:30] <su> i think i installed it....do i need to create a group called fuse?  re: writing to ntfs drive ntfs-3g thingie
[06:30] <fotoflo> bruenig, what about rpm2cpio?
[06:30] <ubunt1> Pawba: null????
[06:30] <Pawba> ubunt1: blank
[06:30] <bruenig> fotoflo, what about it, don't use it
[06:31] <ubunt1> Pawba: and then they can enter easy.
[06:31] <ubunt1> wowowow what quality
[06:31] <fotoflo> bruenig, i want to expand rpms on this ubuntu box and then upload them to a redhat box and install them (ohh, that didnt sound good... its not what you think)
[06:31] <Pawba> ubunt1: sarcasm is a good password, too.
[06:31] <danielDOM> Can anyone give me a hand with installing nvidia drivers ? it keeps telling me to switch back and forth between init 1 an d3 and gets no where
[06:31] <carolyn_> #xubuntu is dead and i need help. i updated from edgy to feisty and firefox is having major issues. the entire screen of firefox is distorted. it's like stretched diagonally and the part that gets cut off is repeated on the opposite side
[06:31] <ubunt1> Pawba: see ya.I'm going to watch the Pirates of Cariben 3
[06:32] <kmag> syslog thought it was important to send me an unsolicited message:  kernel: [16213.191708]  Oops: 0000 [1]  SMP
[06:32] <Pawba> ubunt1: It sucked.
[06:32] <bruenig> fotoflo, well if you want to install rpms on another box, then fine, just don't install them on ubuntu
[06:32] <danielDOM> it sucked
[06:32] <elkbuntu> !offtopic
[06:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:32] <mary-kate> yeah, Adobe Flash
[06:32] <mary-kate> :P
[06:32] <kmag> What is Oops 0000 [1]  SMP ?
[06:32] <Pollywog> how do I use grub-install  to fix my mbr? the manual page is not too helpful
[06:32] <bruenig> !grub | Pollywog lost grub after installing windows link
[06:32] <ubotu> Pollywog lost grub after installing windows link: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:32] <ubunt1> Pawba: no.
[06:32] <fotoflo> bruenig, but i cant even get rpm to install with apt-get
[06:32] <Pollywog> no I did not lose it after installing windows
[06:33] <Pollywog> is the info still valid?
[06:33] <bruenig> fotoflo, yeah you aren't supposed to
[06:33] <fotoflo> hmm
[06:33] <fotoflo> alien?
[06:33] <kmag> syslog also gives me the value of CR2
[06:33] <bruenig> fotoflo, apt-get accesses repositories of debs, nothing more
[06:33] <kbrosnan> carolyn_: have you tried firefox's safe mode?
[06:34] <carolyn_> here's a pic of firefox
[06:34] <carolyn_> http://i11.tinypic.com/6bdt0fs.png
[06:34] <kmag> brueng: I thought someone modified apt-get to also work w/ RPM
[06:34] <bruenig> fotoflo, if you want to install things to redhat, just use those rpms, why are you trying to convert them
[06:34] <carolyn_> kbrosnan, how do i get into safe mode?
[06:34] <fotoflo> bruenig, this redhat box doesnt have rpm installed
[06:34] <bruenig> kmag, I don't think so
[06:34] <beford> ouch, that firefox looks ugly
[06:35] <kmag> so... launchpad is dead?
[06:35] <boghog> I would like to use, test (and report issues for) newer versions of software than currently is available to me with Synaptic. Is this possible?
[06:35] <bruenig> boghog, compile
[06:35] <Pollywog> when I typoe find /boot/grub/stage1 in tghe grub shell it says File not found
[06:35] <DerangedDingo> is there a channel for... whatchacallit, Desktop Customization and whatnot?
[06:35] <Pollywog> I smell a reinstall
[06:36] <DerangedDingo> did you enter the grub shell with 'SUDO grub'?
[06:36] <DerangedDingo> or just 'grub'
[06:36] <kbrosnan> boghog: depends on the software some are offered as .deb or tar packages. else you need to complile
[06:36] <bruenig> don't use SUDO grub, you will get SUDO command not found
[06:36] <DerangedDingo> no you won't
[06:36] <bruenig> yes you will
[06:36] <boghog> I have no problem with compiling stuff myself, is this managed/kept track off through some package management system or am I completely on my own?
[06:36] <DerangedDingo> is he doing this from grub or from his desktop?
[06:36] <kbrosnan> carolyn_: I don't think safe mode is going to help you. It looks like some sort of broken destop effect.
[06:37] <DerangedDingo> 'sudo grub' works just find
[06:37] <DerangedDingo> fine
[06:37] <kmag> Anyone else having problems with devmapper?  Incompatible libdevmapper 1.02.08 (2006-07-17)(compat) and kernel driver
[06:37] <bruenig> SUDO != sudo
[06:37] <kbrosnan> boghog: mainly on your own from my experience
[06:37] <DerangedDingo> entering it with 'grub' makes the grub shell useless
[06:37] <boghog> ok, thanks
[06:37] <jason_> ok i have cairo installed but i don't see it
[06:37] <mylogic_> Does ubuntu support the PPC arch and if so is the performance up to par?
[06:37] <jason_> any ideas
[06:37] <carolyn_> kbrosnan: but nearly everything else is fine. it's weird...the login section was messed also, but i couldn't get a shot of that...
[06:37] <bruenig> boghog, on your own, there is no source tracking system in ubuntu unfortunately, I used to just keep the extracted directory in /opt and then would cd into it and do sudo make uninstall, that kept it pretty clean
[06:38] <bruenig> boghog, when I needed to uninstall it that is
[06:38] <DerangedDingo> jason, cairo is an engine type thing to my knowledge, it's not an application
[06:38] <kmag> mylogic_: what's your definition of "up to par"?
[06:38] <jason_> so how do i get it lookin like OS x
[06:38] <DerangedDingo> jason, what's your question?
[06:38] <mylogic_> kmag: I mean would it have as good of performance as a x86 based PC witht he same stats?
[06:39] <DerangedDingo> how to get ubuntu looking like OS X?
[06:39] <boghog> bruenig, ah, yes that would be handy, I'm mainly worried about not creating a mess of my system when I have to install/compile stuff myself
[06:39] <mylogic_> DerangedDingo: play around with Beryl if you haven't already
[06:39] <jason_> i'm new to ubuntu, and i want the dock that it has
[06:39] <DerangedDingo> beryl is great :)
[06:39] <bruenig> boghog, yeah this way you can uninstall whenever you want, it is clean and good
[06:39] <jason_> i have that too
[06:39] <bruenig> no chasing down files generally
[06:40] <boghog> bruenig, I guess that only thing that really may turn out to be a pain is manually installing/keeping track of (orphaned) dependencies
[06:40] <jason_> dingo got any ideas
[06:40] <mylogic_> kmag: ?
[06:40] <DerangedDingo> Well, there's a few dock options. if you have Beryl, that means you should be ok with any docks that need compositing engines, such as Avant-Window-Navigator (I recommend this one) Cairo-Dock, and Kiba-Dock
[06:40] <kmag> mylogic_: floating point in PPC's strong suit, as well as certain integer-specific stuff like RC-5 encryption
[06:40] <bruenig> boghog, yeah but you would have those dependencies in /opt too, I guess you would have to remember what goes with what, perhaps create a little text file with a list
[06:40] <mylogic_> ah
[06:40] <mylogic_> kmag: so by that answer, I am assuming ubuntu does support the ppc arch
[06:41] <kmag> mylogic_: where are you getting fast PPC hardware now days?
[06:41] <bruenig> ppc is not officially supported
[06:41] <DerangedDingo> Avant-Window-Navigator is extremely easy to install in Feisty, all you need is a gpg key, and then the package is available in synaptic
[06:41] <DerangedDingo> it's the closest thing to an OS X dock
[06:41] <SL666_> hi guys, i installed the kernel upgrade for ubuntu this morning, and now i don't have sound at all.
[06:41] <DerangedDingo> boot with the old kernel
[06:41] <jason_> where do i get that
[06:41] <kmag> mylogic_ : I had some trouble with trying to get my G4 laptop to dual-boot Dapper and OS X Panther
[06:41] <SL666_> booting with the old kernel doesn't fix it :(
[06:42] <carolyn_> hmm, maybe i shouldn't have updated...
[06:42] <DerangedDingo> Jason: do these steps
[06:42] <mylogic_> kmag: a department had extras because they just upgraded to intel based, and I need a workstation in my office so I don't have to bring my laptop to work everyday
[06:42] <Pollywog> can I install the mbr on an extended partition?
[06:42] <DerangedDingo> 1) Open a terminal
[06:42] <carolyn_> since no one knows what to do with this firefox problem...
[06:42] <mylogic_> kmag: I work as the sys/net admin in a Biotech Research center at Virginia Tech
[06:42] <bruenig> SL666_, try sudo amixer set Master 90% unmute && sudo amixer set PCM 85% unmute
[06:42] <jason_> k
[06:42] <bruenig> !enter
[06:42] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[06:42] <DerangedDingo> 2) run "wget http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/8434D43A.gpg "
[06:43] <beford> carolyn_, you can try, exporting your bookmarks and then remove/purge firefox and reinstall it
[06:43] <Cosmo__> anyone have a suggestion for a CPU cooler for a AMD 64 x2 5400 processor?
[06:43] <DerangedDingo> 3) then run "sudo apt-key add 8434D43A.gpg"
[06:43] <DerangedDingo> 4) then " rm 8434D43A.gpg"
[06:43] <bruenig> 2 and 3 and 4 can be done with "wget http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/8434D43A.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -"
[06:44] <jason_> run cannot be found
[06:44] <DerangedDingo> 5) then "sudo apt-get update"
[06:44] <SL666_> bruenig: ok, no change, not a peep
[06:44] <Pollywog> I do indeed smell a reinstall
[06:44] <carolyn_> bedford, what's the command for that?
[06:44] <DerangedDingo> i meant, in the terminal, enter the thing in quotes
[06:44] <DerangedDingo> the actual command is what i put in quotes
[06:45] <bruenig> streamline 2,3 and 4
[06:45] <kmag> Cosmo: A friend is happy with the pair of Zalmans on his dual-opteron setup
[06:45] <DerangedDingo> 6) is "sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator-svn"
[06:45] <jason_> no such file or dir
[06:45] <yousefm87> hi i'm new to ubuntu and
[06:45] <jason_> i'm sorry dingo
[06:45] <yousefm87> i installed it and i can't get my sound to work
[06:45] <kmag> Cosmo: the Zalmans with the copper strip down the center, and aluminum elsewhere should work nearly identically to the all-copper models
[06:45] <SL666_> I've checked all the volumes etc i can find, and the on-screen volume responds to up/down volume buttons on the keyboard (laptop)
[06:46] <bruenig> DerangedDingo, adding a gpg key, without adding the repo line won't do anything, did you give him the repo line to add to his sources.list
[06:46] <DerangedDingo> sorry for what?
[06:46] <jason_> asking for help
[06:46] <Pollywog> I am going to try one trick before I give up and reinstall
[06:46] <DerangedDingo> oh
[06:46] <DerangedDingo> crud
[06:46] <DerangedDingo> i was just going through my bash history
[06:46] <DerangedDingo> hold on
[06:46] <carolyn_> oh boy, a lot of the screens are messed up
[06:47] <jason_> that file cannot be found
[06:47] <carolyn_> all of the administrative ones, like login and password request, are nearly unreadable
[06:47] <DerangedDingo> deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 feisty avant-window-navigator
[06:47] <DerangedDingo> deb-src http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 feisty avant-window-navigator
[06:47] <borphos> yousefm87, what sound casrd do you have?
[06:47] <carolyn_> how do i reinstall?
[06:47] <yousefm87> Hi everyone, I installed ubuntu today and my sound isn't working... anyone have any ideas?
[06:47] <yousefm87> i have an intel one i believe
[06:48] <uid0complex> hi yousefm87 -- did you do a live install?
[06:48] <yousefm87> i believe 82801G
[06:48] <yousefm87> intel
[06:48] <SL666_> sound seems to be a common thing not working today :(
[06:48] <yousefm87> i did do live install
[06:48] <Tom_Kun_> oh well.. just killed my ubuntu install :)
[06:48] <borphos> yousefm87, if it's an intel card it uses a standard ac97 driver.  anyone in here know that module?
[06:48] <jason_> no such file
[06:48] <borphos> google time
[06:48] <jason_> grrr
[06:49] <bruenig> jason_, one command, just copy and paste everything after the colon: echo "deb http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42 feisty avant-window-navigator" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list && wget http://download.tuxfamily.org/syzygy42/8434D43A.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator
[06:49] <uid0complex> borphos: perhaps the hal-info?
[06:49] <illriginal> What's the best program to use to open .exe fo;es
[06:49] <illriginal> files*
[06:49] <DerangedDingo> nice one
[06:49] <bruenig> illriginal, you mean run windows programs?
[06:50] <Tom_Kun_> what packages do I need to get the kernel back up and running?
[06:50] <DerangedDingo> Wine
[06:50] <jason_> dpkg was interupted
[06:50] <illriginal> i need it for a Wireless device driver
[06:50] <illriginal> and it's only for windows I'm assuming.
[06:50] <kmag> illriginal: you want to run them, or decompile them?
[06:50] <illriginal> uh.. i want to install them so that im able to use my wireless usb adapter :)
[06:50] <yousefm87> 82801G (ICH7 Family) HD Audio Controller is the exact model
[06:50] <kmag> illriginal: that's going to be problematic
[06:51] <illriginal> lol
[06:51] <illriginal> seems like it so far kmag.
[06:51] <jason_> is it impossible?
[06:51] <bruenig> jason_, pastebin the real error
[06:51] <carolyn_> help! how do i reinstall feisty?
[06:51] <bruenig> !pastebin | jason_
[06:51] <ubotu> jason_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:51] <illriginal> Can't find any documentation that's useful for this wireless usb adapter to work
[06:51] <bruenig> carolyn_, open your cd drive, put the cd in, reboot
[06:51] <kmag> illriginal: I've only heard of running Windows NTFS drivers under LInux, no other Windows drivers
[06:52] <carolyn_> breunig, I didn't update via CD
[06:52] <kmag> illriginal: "captive NTFS" is pretty cool, though
[06:52] <bruenig> carolyn_, get the cd then
[06:52] <illriginal> well... supposedly the Belkin FSD7050 USB WIreless Adapter is compatible with Ubuntu
[06:52] <carolyn_> darnit
[06:52] <bruenig> kmag, but those drivers are not windows, those were reverse engineered
[06:52] <illriginal> and.. i can't even see any wireless signals
[06:52] <illriginal> dunno how to at least.
[06:52] <illriginal> and dunno if it's even being used right now.
[06:52] <carolyn_> f-it, not going to get any work done on this partition tonight...
[06:53] <T`> anyone know how to disable auto mountin usb flash devices?? its super annoying here
[06:53] <carolyn_> back to OS X for me!
[06:53] <yousefm87> so does anyone know how to get my sound workin?
[06:53] <fogwar>  how would i upgrade my open office? just install it over the old? or remove it first? cuz it says it is depended on by other progs
[06:53] <bruenig> T`, I assume there is some daemon running that is mounting it, stop that daemon
[06:54] <T`> bruenig: any idea which one that is?
[06:54] <bruenig> fogwar, upgrade it with what?
[06:54] <fogwar> 2.2
[06:54] <bruenig> T`, no, I am not on ubuntu
[06:54] <beford> carolyn_, could you try to move the .mozilla folder in your home dir, rename it to something else, and then try to open firefox again
[06:54] <kmag> bruenig: last time I used captive, I needed to use the Linux NTFS ro-driver to copy the MS NTFS driver out to my ext3 partition, then run captive to get rw-access
[06:54] <borphos> yousefm87, apparently there is a bug with alsa sound drivers for the ICH7.  What version of Ubuntu are you using?  It should be fixed in the latest release.
[06:54] <jason_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23038/
[06:54] <illriginal> Is there a wireless channel?
[06:54] <jason_> i think this is right
[06:54] <fogwar> bruenig: 2.2
[06:54] <illriginal> maybe a room full of people who know of the wireless situation with Ubuntu?
[06:54] <bruenig> kmag, there is ntfs rw support in the kernel, you can read the source if you want, that source certainly wasn't made open
[06:54] <bruenig> fogwar, right but with some deb or what?
[06:55] <kmag> bruenig: captive uses code from ReactOS and Wine to get the genuine MS NTFS driver running and happy in ring 3 ...
[06:55] <bruenig> kmag, made open by windows that is
[06:55] <bruenig> kmag, I don't know why you would use that when you have built in kernel support
[06:55] <fogwar> well 2.0 was alr eady on it, im at open office website downloading it
[06:55] <illriginal> #kubuntu
[06:55] <bruenig> fogwar, but what is the name of the package, is it a .rpm?
[06:56] <borphos> yousefm87, you there?
[06:56] <kmag> bruenig: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captive_NTFS
[06:56] <bruenig> kmag, kernel.org
[06:56] <kmag> bruenig: like I said "last time I used it"
[06:56] <kmag> bruenig: several years ago
[06:56] <jason_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23038/ here it is
[06:56] <jason_> i think
[06:57] <yousefm87> yes
[06:57] <bruenig> jason_, do what it tells you, you see what it is telling you?
[06:57] <borphos> what version of ubuntu are you using?
[06:57] <kmag> bruenig: so NTFS rw support is no longer an experimental option?
[06:57] <yousefm87> 7.04
[06:57] <bruenig> kmag, assuming you compile it into the kernel, it is good to go
[06:58] <bruenig> I don't know if ubuntu does, I would assume
[06:58] <m1r> little help needed , dwl-g122 rev c1 wirelss usb card detected but it cant find chanell
[06:58] <borphos> yousefm87, have you installed all the latest updates?
[06:58] <kmag> bruenig: ntfs-3g is a FUSE driver
[06:58] <yousefm87> it installed more than 40 updates after i installed it
[06:58] <bruenig> kmag, I was compiling a kernel probably 2 months ago, and it was a new option
[06:58] <kmag> bruenig: so most of it isn't in the kernel, but in userspace
[06:59] <yousefm87> ubuntu that is
[06:59] <carolyn_> beford, tried that. no such luck. guess i'll have to reinstall some other time...
[06:59] <Tom_Kun_> anyone able to help? i somehow managed to install an amazing package called hotplug
[06:59] <kmag> bruenig: cool... a few years ago it was available, if you enabled experimental options
[06:59] <fogwar_> bruenig: sorry i got d/c
[06:59] <Tom_Kun_> it seems to have removed my kernel, grub, and several other packages :)
[06:59] <Tom_Kun_> I somehow need to repair it :p
[06:59] <bruenig> fogwar, yeah, what is the format of this package, is it a .rpm?
[07:00] <bruenig> fogwar, what is it that you need out of 2.2 to begin with
[07:00] <kmag> ruenig: funny how Win2k doesn't have ro support for NTFS... only rw
[07:00] <fogwar> bruenig: is there any difference?
[07:00] <beford> carolyn_, did you try to remove/purge firefox (export your bookmarks first) and reinstall it?
[07:00] <bruenig> fogwar, I don't know, you are the one itching to get 2.2, I assumed there was some reason?
[07:00] <carolyn_> beford, no, i don't know how :(
[07:00] <m1r> little help needed , dwl-g122 rev c1 wlan card dont work
[07:00] <fogwar> bruenig: well, first i wanted to learn how to update something w/o having to uninstall it since it wont let me
[07:01] <bruenig> fogwar, iirc open office puts out rpms, that will not work in ubuntu
[07:01] <gaten> carolyn_: if you copy the ~/.mozilla folder before you remove firefox, you can save all your bookmarks and add ons
[07:01] <fogwar> bruenig: ?
[07:01] <bruenig> fogwar, ?
[07:01] <carolyn_> beford, it's not just firefox anyway. i've found that my login and password request screens are distorted also
[07:02] <naknak987> whats a good programming language to start learning with.
[07:02] <GenNMX> Tom_Kun_: If you have Internet access, you can just remove hotplug and install what was once on there (check apt log). If you don't have Internet access, and this may be easier regardless depending on how many packages were removed, just reinstall Ubuntu and don't use Guided Mode for Partioning. Instead, don't repartition anything, and let Ubuntu overwrite everything. You'll keep your configuration that way.
[07:02] <DerangedDingo> is there a channel for Desktop CUstomization?
[07:02] <dr_willis> naknak987,  python i hear is nice for a beginner.
[07:02] <bruenig> fogwar, you always need to uninstall something before you update, even when you upgrade something from the package manager it uninstalls the version before it first
[07:02] <bruenig> naknak987, c++
[07:02] <carolyn_> DerangedDingo, i believe it's either #ubuntu-effects or #ubuntu-art
[07:02] <Tom_Kun_> GenNMX, I have booted in recovery mode now from the cd
[07:02] <DerangedDingo> thanks
[07:02] <SL666_> It appears that i also have the same audio device...
[07:02] <SL666_>  Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[07:02] <naknak987> some people tell me c++ but some also tell me python.
[07:02] <fogwar> bruenig: so i should uninstall it via advanced even if it says not to in basic?
[07:02] <Tom_Kun_> setting up ubuntu-desktop again
[07:02] <DerangedDingo> learn C++
[07:02] <beford> carolyn_, oh, it could be a gtk issue hmm, could you try to create a new user account, and check if it has the same problems?
[07:02] <Tom_Kun_> not sure where the apt log is resided
[07:03] <DerangedDingo> i know lots that have
[07:03] <DerangedDingo> but Python is a main ubuntu language
[07:03] <DerangedDingo> so.. just learn whatcha like best
[07:03] <bruenig> fogwar, you should not uninstall it period, you will not be able to install 2.2 because it isn't the right format and if you uninstall you will break a lot
[07:03] <DerangedDingo> /johin #ubuntu-effects
[07:03] <carolyn_> beford, well if its the main user login screen, then i assume it's a problem outside this user...
[07:03] <gaten> c++ drove me insane. id say perl is a good first language. or ruby
[07:03] <uid0complex> I agree with gaten:  Perl rocks
[07:04] <carolyn_> yup, i liked perl
[07:04] <bruenig> c is pretty simple
[07:04] <naknak987> Then can you direct me towards a good program to use to learn python.
[07:04] <eck> for a first language, i don't think perl is a good choice
[07:04] <eck> it will make you messy
[07:04] <otero> whats a good first language?
[07:04] <Tom_Kun_> GenNMX, can you point me in the right direction for the apt log :)
[07:04] <yousefm87> do you guys know of a good c++ and java compiler?
[07:04] <bruenig> naknak987, try to learn bash, you can write shell scripts to learn if and while and for and what not
[07:04] <bruenig> yousefm87, gcc, javac
[07:04] <gaten> good point eck. ugly perl code is kinda like a right of passage...
[07:04] <otero> im using anjuta
[07:04] <DerangedDingo> bruenig has a good point
[07:05] <yousefm87> thx
[07:05] <DerangedDingo> i learned MS-DOS before anything
[07:05] <DerangedDingo> made batch files on the school computers that looked like viruses... hehehe
[07:05] <bruenig> tthose are the basics and you can actually do stuff on your computer instead of going through hours and hours of concept programs that add numbers and do stupid things that you don't care about
[07:05] <gaten> lol me too DerangedDingo
[07:05] <fogwar> bruenig: can u do something for me? can u see if http://cougarmail.ccccd.edu/ lets you connect on your comp--- its saying i cant connect. all it should do is prompt user and password
[07:05] <otero> is C a good choice for first language?
[07:05] <bruenig> fogwar, no connection
[07:06] <eck> c is ok, i guess, but a bit difficult
[07:06] <kmag> otero: you have to worry about lots of little details with C
[07:06] <fogwar> k thx
[07:06] <eck> it is what i learned first, i think there might be better languages to start with now
[07:06] <otero> so whats a good 1st language?
[07:06] <gaten> otero: i would say kinda ;) memory management is a pain, and you will hate pointers until the day you die
[07:06] <naknak987> bruenig: can you point me in the direction of were i can get a good program to learn bash or python
[07:06] <kmag> otero: I recommend Python
[07:06] <eck> java, c++, python are all probably good choices
[07:06] <eck> even mono/c#
[07:06] <otero> python? develops any appls?
[07:06] <phixxor> If I set the upload speed to [auto]  in azureus, will that make sure the upload is as high as possible without choking the download speed?
[07:07] <kmag> otero: the interactive shell makes Python great for learning
[07:07] <bruenig> naknak987, see I don't know, I never really sat down to learn bash, I just sort of picked it up and when I wanted to do something or thought of something, I would look up stuff to figure out how to do it in bash and now I can do pretty much anything in bash
[07:07] <otero> can you make unix apps in python?
[07:07] <kmag> otero: the official Bittorrent client is written in Python
[07:07] <jason_> ok i did what uit told me
[07:07] <borphos> yousefm87, add this line to /etc/modprobe.d/options "options snd-hda-intel model=ref"
[07:07] <jason_> it
[07:07] <kmag> otero: we use Python a fair amount at Google
[07:07] <eck> python has a good os module that has a lot of c routines
[07:07] <carolyn_> kmag, you work at Google?
[07:07] <zak_> could someone recommend a text editor that uses the same syntax hilighting as gedit, but is more suited to a large amount of open files [eg like i think kate has, instead of tabs] ?
[07:08] <otero> I get confused with what all these languages actually do
[07:08] <borphos> yousefm87, that seemed to help a lot of people in the forums
[07:08] <kmag> carolyn_: erm... maybe... depends on why you ask
[07:08] <naknak987> Could anyone tell me were to get a good program to learn python
[07:08] <otero> lol
[07:08] <bruenig> zak_, no tabs? what else is there but tabs
[07:08] <gaten> he's gathering information on us all!!
[07:08] <eck> naknak987: the apress book is good
[07:08] <otero> kmag let me get some free ad awords advertising
[07:08] <post> Is there a program that will program python for me?   =] 
[07:08] <carolyn_> kmag, i just think that's cool. i use a lot of the google programs. :D
[07:08] <zak_> bruenig: has a list of open files down the side... i guess like tabs, but you can fit more :)
[07:09] <eck> i think the apress book is the best introductory python text, there is also a free online book (dive into python) but i didn't think it was taht good
[07:09] <kmag> naknak987: I liked http://www.google.com/search?q=python+challenge
[07:09] <bruenig> zak_, I use vim personally but genay is an ide that has tabs at the top that is very good
[07:09] <bruenig> geany*
[07:09] <fogwar> bruenig: when i click a link in konversdation it brings me to a file://home/usr page
[07:09] <DerangedDingo> I'm more of a... download python scripts and mess with them, learner
[07:10] <DerangedDingo> but there's gotta be a few tutorials on the web somewhere
[07:10] <eck> when you start programming you should definitely have a book
[07:10] <bruenig> DerangedDingo, yeah, figure out what a program does and then look at how it does it, easiest way to pick it up
[07:10] <kmag> #python is very helpful
[07:10] <carbanm> does anyone here know how to get kismet working with the atheros driver
[07:10] <carbanm> ?
[07:10] <Tom_Kun_> anyone? location of apt.log ? :) would rather not wait for locate :)
[07:10] <otero> anyone know why bluefish is opening all my web links from irc?
[07:10] <Hatty> Er, why dont I have a manpage for select(), pselect(), etc?
[07:10] <eck> Hatty: you need to install manpages-dev
[07:10] <carbanm> the non madwifi
[07:11] <emun> hello,can one use a webcam in ubuntu
[07:11] <Hatty> eck: thanks
[07:11] <gaten> Tom_Kun_: /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[07:11] <zak_> bruenig: does geany use the same syntax hilighting as gedit?
[07:11] <carolyn_> ok, i'm going to reboot onto my OS X partition so that i can do some work. i'll reinstall later and play with xubuntu some more... :(
[07:11] <Mikeh> emun, yes but depending on your webcam it can be tricky
[07:11] <gaten> whenever i open an app when im in beryl, it starts minimize. can anyone tell me how to fix that, its annoying
[07:11] <carbanm> gaten: is it minimized, or behind other windows?
[07:11] <kmag> anyone else having stability issues with truecrypt?  I think it may be a heat issue
[07:12] <Mikeh> kmag, no stability issues here
[07:12] <carbanm> there is an option in beryl's setting that doesn't allow windows to steal focus from other windows, id turn it off
[07:12] <kmag> or it could be a kernel module bug on AMD64
[07:12] <gaten> carbanm: ahh yes, you are correct. it is behind other windows
[07:12] <Mikeh> I'm using i386 Kmag, so I can't help you there
[07:12] <emun> mikeh, do you know any compatible webcams
[07:12] <bruenig> zak_, I don't know if it is the same, like same colors and all, but it uses syntax highlighting, I think you will figure it out
[07:13] <Mikeh> What webcam do you have emun?
[07:13] <carbanm> gaten: in the settings manager, change "level of focus stealing prevention"
[07:13] <Ayabara> what should I do when apt-get upgrade says "the following packages have been held back"?
[07:13] <emun> mikeh, i have a logitech webcam
[07:14] <eck> Ayabara: you probably need to apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:14] <yousefm87> it says that i'm denied permission
[07:14] <gaten> carbanm: ok thank you. it gunna take an hour to find it, so many options
[07:14] <kmag> though, it does seem much more stable when I use SIGSTOP and SIGCONT to have truecrypt -c only run for 10 seconds out of every 40 seconds... I've made it 307 GB into a 500 GB encrypted partition creation
[07:14] <Mikeh> Logitech what emun?
[07:14] <carbanm> gaten: its on the main screen, the first one
[07:14] <gaten> carbanm: yeah got it, thanks a bunch
[07:14] <kmag> is there an easy way to check my CPU temp?  I'm guessing most modern CPUs have on-chip RTDs
[07:15] <Ayabara> eck, of course... it is mainly kernel and vmware kernel stuff, so I should've known. well. thank you :-)
[07:15] <carbanm> kmag: install lm-sensors
[07:15] <eck> kmag: yeah, you need to poke around in /proc
[07:15] <carbanm> anyone know of a really good netstumblerish app?
[07:15] <carbanm> because something tells me netstumbler wont work
[07:15] <zak_> bruenig: i'm mainly asking because gedit/whatever syntax hilighting system it uses has support for relatively uncommon languages like Boo and D
[07:16] <bruenig> zak_, just install it and see, it is .1 mb
[07:16] <emun> mikeh, i can not remember the model number
[07:16] <sahil> can anyone tell me which printers are compatible with Ubuntu ?
[07:16] <konam> someone knows why alacarte doesn't edit the menu's entries?
[07:16] <zak_> bruenig: will do
[07:16] <rummik> how do i see what driver corresponds to what device?
[07:17] <Mikeh> the name of the webcam will do fine Emun, some common ones are "Quickcam Pro" "Quickcam Messenger" "Quickcam chat"
[07:17] <fotoflo> hmm how do i find out which linux im running?
[07:17] <konam> i rename some entries and the changes doesn't show up on the screen, like if i never did that
[07:17] <konam> fotoflo uname
[07:17] <hanasaki> gnome is complaining that it cannot mount my usbflashdrive... mounts fine manaully under root ... how can this be fixed
[07:17] <hanasaki> ?
[07:17] <fotoflo> konam, it just says "Linux"
[07:17] <emun> mikeh , it is the Quickcam
[07:18] <fotoflo> -a
[07:18] <konam> fotoflo uname -a or -r
[07:18] <gaten> ossec hids complains in the log with: "Must issue a STARTTLS command first", which means its not initiating an SSL connect w/ the gmail server. does anyone know how to fix that? i know it worked in dapper without modification...
[07:18] <fotoflo> what if i want to see "ubuntu - 6.10" ?
[07:18] <peepsalot> i have dozens of old kernel versions installed, is there any quick way to remove them all(exceot the latest version)?
[07:18] <Mikeh> you need to install these drivers http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/ and then reboot enum
[07:18] <konam> fotoflo there is
[07:19] <konam> the linux kernel youre using
[07:19] <zak_> sahil: that would be a pretty long list :) but i think most big-name printers (HP, etc.) would be supported, but my Canon Pixma needed drivers off the net... if you're considering a printer in particular, just google for the printer model and ubuntu, and see what comes up
[07:19] <ahmed> guys pls help,, the kde kmenu and showdesktop icons are shifted by some space to the right now and i cant just drag them back to the most left as they where how to do that  ???
[07:19] <insomniac190> is there any way to get movie files to play on my computer that i have downloaded...i dont seem to be having much luck
[07:19] <T`> anyone here using xchat?
[07:19] <Mikeh> then open up whatever program you will be using to view / send with the webcam (aMSN, XawtV, etc) okay Enum?
[07:19] <hanasaki> sometimes
[07:20] <hanasaki> how can I mount my usb flash drive?
[07:20] <fotoflo> 2.6.9-34.0.1.ELsmp #1 SMP Wed May 17 17:05:24 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[07:20] <MadMac> I am using xchat
[07:20] <ahmed> hello
[07:20] <fotoflo> whats going on here?
[07:20] <zak_> insomniac190: do you have the right codecs?
[07:20] <T`> MadMac: does Ctrl+X crash your xchat? it seems to do so for me :(
[07:20] <illriginal> Anyone have a clue about wireless usb adapters?
[07:20] <fotoflo> i686 i686 i386 ?
[07:20] <sahil> zak_ i am definitely going in for an HP just wanted some recommendations
[07:20] <ahmed> guys pls help,, the kde kmenu and showdesktop icons are shifted by some space to the right now and i cant just drag them back to the most left as they where how to do that  ???
[07:20] <eck> fotoflo: you're on a redhat box?
[07:20] <blacksadness> insomniac190:  shouldn't doubleclicking them install the needed codecs?
[07:20] <fotoflo> the machine im probing is
[07:20] <otero> Im messing around with some python code, how do you actually make graphical interfaces?
[07:20] <MadMac> Nope.
[07:21] <migney> What is the default path of my wallpaper?
[07:21] <eck> otero: pytgtk, but that is much more advanced
[07:21] <foug> having trouble uninstalling audacious. sudo aptitude remove audacious doesn't work, it asks me if i am root
[07:21] <insomniac190> zak_: i installed the restricted codecs.  i thought that would make it work, but it didnt
[07:21] <otero> thanks
[07:21] <insomniac190> blacksadness: ive never seen a prompt to install codecs
[07:21] <emun> mikeh, ok I just thought of something will i need drivers for it in ubuntu
[07:22] <T`> MadMac: for some reason mine does.. and i have no idea why :( only started happening after upgrading to fesity
[07:22] <blacksadness> insomniac190: try www.ubuntuguide.org see what it has to say about the codecs, i usually just install the codecs when prompted
[07:22] <`davo> if I do an apt-get dist-upgrade that wont get rid of any configurations I've done will it?  Like for example, I was pulling teeth for weeks just trying to get my screen resolution working and I dont want to go through that again
[07:22] <zak_> sahil: i *think* HP's are generally well supported, but i suggest you have a google if you haven't already, or maybe look on the ubuntu wiki for printer recommendations... if you don't find anything, maybe try asking here again later
[07:22] <gaten> `davo: i woudl make a backup of your xorg.conf
[07:23] <insomniac190> blacksadness, zak_: i have also tried vlc player which works, but if i resize the window or fast forward the screen goes black
[07:23] <`davo> well I also had to install some stuff.
[07:23] <`davo> openchrome I believe.
[07:23] <`davo> I forget what all I had to do, but yea.
[07:23] <`davo> it was quite a lot of work.
[07:23] <Fambu> I installed Ubuntu on my machine, but I don't recall what username/password I used and now I can't get into the system :-\
[07:23] <zak_> insomniac190: are you using Beryl or X composite or some other eyecandy system? because totem [and maybe other players]  seems to have trouble with them
[07:24] <blacksadness> insomniac190: i have experienced that when beryl is enabled, i haven't investigated more as i mainly use totem.. what exactly is the error you're getting when playing the movie?
[07:24] <foug> having trouble uninstalling audacious. sudo aptitude remove audacious doesn't work, it asks me if i am root
[07:24] <insomniac190> zak_: yes i am using beryl
[07:24] <Tom_Kun_> bad luck
[07:24] <Tom_Kun_> no details in apt.log as to what was actually removed
[07:24] <SteveWrightNZ> wtf? feisty ate my nvidia.. any clue ?
[07:25] <kmag> otero: pygtk or wxwindows are the normal graphical libraries
[07:25] <insomniac190> blacksadness: no message, just doesnt show video
[07:25] <otero> which one is easier to handle?
[07:25] <peepsalot> SteveWrightNZ, did you update your kernel?  you might need to reinstall nvidia drivers
[07:25] <SteveWrightNZ> peepsalot: apt-get remove && apt-get install ?  tried it, no go
[07:25] <blacksadness> insomniac190: if you're using beryl, press alt + F2 and type in gstreamer-properties and select X window System (No XV) for the video plugin
[07:25] <blacksadness> insomniac190: do so in vlc settings as well
[07:26] <otero> kmag, which one is easier to handle, do they come with ubuntu?
[07:26] <zak_> insomniac190: perhaps try googling for "beryl totem" or something... or installing another player like KDE's kaffeine... or just disabling beryl when you want to watch movies
[07:26] <peepsalot> SteveWrightNZ, dunno, i've always used the installer straight from the nvidia site
[07:26] <kmag> otero: are you familiar with threads?
[07:26] <zak_> insomniac190: perhaps mplayer or something will work too
[07:27] <otero> kmag, only on forums
[07:27] <SteveWrightNZ> recent apt-get upgrade eats my nvidia config.. any ideas ?
[07:27] <SteveWrightNZ> (new kernel)
[07:27] <otero> im not a programmer, but an enthusiast at this point
[07:27] <kmag> otero: apt-cache search pygtk
[07:27] <blacksadness> zak_, insomniac190:  i had the problem with beryl enabled, changing the video plugin to X would fix the totem issue..
[07:28] <kmag> otero: if you're doing user interfaces, you'll probably want your application to not lock up while waiting for user input
[07:28] <Tom_Kun_> :) at least it goes past grub now
[07:28] <yotux> is lapic loaded with grub?
[07:28] <zak_> blacksadness: that'll help me too, but insomniac190 was the one asking
[07:28] <otero> kmag, right..how would i prevent that
[07:28] <foug> anyone? having trouble uninstalling audacious, sudo aptitude remove audacious isn't working
[07:28] <insomniac190> blacksadness: that worked...thanks a lot!
[07:29] <blacksadness> insomniac190: welcome :)
[07:29] <bruenig> foug, what is the error
[07:29] <hanasaki> how do I mount my usb flash drive
[07:29] <hanasaki> ?
[07:29] <kmag> otero: well, there are several ways...
[07:29] <REGJAVA> diffrence between the default desktop effects and Beryl in Fiesty?
[07:29] <REGJAVA> Is there any?
[07:29] <foug> bruenig: couldn't lock list directory, are you root?
[07:30] <bruenig> foug, close synaptic or any other package manager
[07:30] <foug> bruenig: could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[07:30] <foug> bruenig: none is open as far as i know
[07:30] <DerangedDingo> update-manager?
[07:30] <foug> not open either
[07:30] <foug> should i just go the easy way and uninstall using synaptic? ;\
[07:31] <bruenig> foug, there is some instance of apt running I bet, you can roll through ps and try to find it and kill it or just restart
[07:31] <foug> bruenig: think wine could be the problem? i'm playing wow atm
[07:31] <kmag> otero: there are these things called threads... the easiest way to think of a thread is it's the thing that keeps track of which line of the program is currently executing
[07:31] <bruenig> foug, no, it is saying that the lock is locked
[07:31] <insomniac190> REGJAVA: there is a lot more options in beryl
[07:31] <gaten> REGJAVA: beryl has ALOT more options
[07:31] <REGJAVA> Like?
[07:31] <otero> OK
[07:32] <kmag> otero: though, really, you should go to #python with your programming questions
[07:32] <DerangedDingo> MILLIONS
[07:32] <bruenig> foug, whenever you open a package manager, it locks a file called lock so that other package managers can't run simultaneously, that would be a problem obviously, either apt has it locked or synaptic or update manager or something else
[07:32] <DerangedDingo> tons of different animations for closing and opening windows
[07:32] <gaten> REGJAVA: animated cube images, more options for window affects and such
[07:32] <yousefm87> what'd you say was a good java compiler on ubuntu/
[07:32] <yousefm87> ?
[07:32] <DerangedDingo> different times that those animations will take
[07:32] <DerangedDingo> you can customize everything
[07:32] <insomniac190> REGJAVA: we could sit here and list them, but your best bet would just be youtube search for beryl
[07:32] <bruenig> yousefm87, same as any other, javac
[07:32] <REGJAVA> ok , so its only the animations and the themes from Emerald
[07:32] <DerangedDingo> plus there's 3 window decorators for beryl
[07:32] <bruenig> !info sun-java6-sdk | yousefm87
[07:32] <ubotu> yousefm87: Package sun-java6-sdk does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[07:33] <bruenig> !info sun-java6-jdk | yousefm87
[07:33] <ubotu> yousefm87: sun-java6-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 6. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 9270 kB, installed size 31240 kB
[07:33] <DerangedDingo> well, you can customize everything
[07:33] <REGJAVA> I love to use beryl, but it gives me the Black window Bug :(
[07:33] <DerangedDingo> there's different plugins too
[07:33] <DerangedDingo> like you can make rainn or snow come down on your desktop
[07:33] <REGJAVA> so, i think i will stick with compiz
[07:33] <SteveWrightNZ> NZ govt dumps microsoft office
[07:33] <sahil> lol, i never understood the point of the rain
[07:33] <DerangedDingo> meh, it's just cool
[07:34] <gaten> REGJAVA: yeah that gets annoying,  i find that when i minimize the window and bring it back up the blackness goes away
[07:34] <REGJAVA> it will keep u r desktop clean ., the rain
[07:34] <DerangedDingo> heh
[07:34] <sahil> France gov switched to Linux and french police are using OpenOffice now
[07:34] <REGJAVA> gaten , thats soo irritating , but i never get those with compiz
[07:34] <insomniac190> yeah rain is kinda pointless, but i will sit there and write stuff with the rain pointer when im bored :p
[07:34] <gaten> well that settles it; im moving the france!
[07:34] <hanasaki> sahil:  have  a url for that
[07:34] <REGJAVA> I can sense the gdp of france going UP
[07:35] <DerangedDingo> Does anyone here use the Gnome Mac-Menu applet?
[07:35] <gaten> REGJAVA: yes, no one argues that compiz is more stable than beryl. hopefully the merge will fix that
[07:35] <hanasaki> DerangedDingo: where did you get it
[07:35] <sahil> www.linuxtoday.com/it_management/2005011802326NWDTPB
[07:35] <insomniac190> DerangedDingo: macmenu applet
[07:35] <silvernode> yay fresh install
[07:35] <SteveWrightNZ> NZ govt moves to apple iworks
[07:35] <Tom_Kun_> it worked :D
[07:36] <sahil> that makes no sense
[07:36] <REGJAVA> Lets Hope for the best and hope the Merge will fix it!
[07:36] <DerangedDingo> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241868
[07:36] <Tom_Kun_> gotta love linux.. it's not even dead when you think it is :p
[07:36] <DerangedDingo> I'm just having a bit of trouble with it
[07:36] <SteveWrightNZ> (in schools)
[07:36] <mobutu> anyone know how to get nautilus to thumbnail CBR/CBZ files ?
[07:36] <DerangedDingo> insomniac190, do you use it?
[07:36] <REGJAVA> Is the Black bug only with Nvidia cards?
[07:36] <DerangedDingo> REGJAVA: Yes
[07:36] <sahil> yeah
[07:37] <REGJAVA> Damn it! , i Shud have gone for an ATI
[07:37] <bruenig> ati wouldn't have worked at all probably
[07:37] <muriu> Hey guys, im trying to copy files to a comp that runs windows on the network but im getting an error message! Wasup
[07:37] <thekrixxx> im running ubuntu livecd on graphics safe mode on an old dell celeron machine...its haning on 'starting basic networking'
[07:37] <REGJAVA> How abt Intel?
[07:37] <insomniac190> DerangedDingo: i use the avant window navigator
[07:37] <thekrixxx> would i be better off with xubuntu on such an old machine? (128ram(
[07:37] <gaten> REGJAVA: ati and linux NEVER mix. trust me, nvidia is the better choice
[07:38] <bruenig> intel is probalby the best as far as drivers go
[07:38] <bruenig> but weak
[07:38] <sahil> Leaflet dock will we out soon
[07:38] <silvernode> build a new machine
[07:38] <DerangedDingo> Intel cards are autodetected
[07:38] <insomniac190> DerangedDingo: in addition to handling all open windows, you can install program launchers
[07:38] <DerangedDingo> it';s quit nice
[07:38] <REGJAVA> yeah, Intel is Weak. Why dont they come up with some nice graphics chip
[07:38] <foug> bruenig: o, i think it might be wow cuz i'm trying to uninstall it through a diff tab in terminal
[07:38] <thekrixxx> yes but for th etime being im gonna just use this old one
[07:38] <jdt> well, I have to say the Black Bug is rather annoying, I presume this is the bug stopping NVidia laptops from suspend/resuming?
[07:38] <foug> bruenig: and when i run WoW i can't do anything from terminal
[07:38] <bruenig> foug, it has absolutely nothing to do with WoW, read the error
[07:39] <DerangedDingo> Insomniac, what are you talking about?
[07:39] <silvernode> lol running wow is something i cant do on ubuntu
[07:39] <foug> bruenig: yea but i can't type in my terminal, i'm having to open a new tab in order to try and do anything. Sure that wouldn't affect it
[07:39] <bruenig> foug, yes very sure
[07:39] <klock> silvernode: I know how you feel :(
[07:39] <foug> bruenig: hmm
[07:39] <bruenig> foug, the error says that it is the lock,
[07:40] <REGJAVA> Is there Any good RPG games for linux?
[07:40] <bruenig> foug, do ps -A and see if apt or apt-get or some other process is running, that is the likely cause
[07:40] <insomniac190> DerangedDingo: http://code.google.com/p/avant-window-navigator/
[07:40] <jdt> does anyone know how to get ubuntu feisty to suspend/resume with NVidia geforce go 7700?
[07:40] <foug> bruenig: a long list appears
[07:40] <DerangedDingo> I already use Avant-WIndow-Navigator....
[07:40] <bruenig> foug, read through the list and see of apt or apt-get or something like that is going
[07:40] <DerangedDingo> Does anyone here use the GNOME Mac Menu Applet?
[07:41] <foug> bruenig: off topic, what's getty? there's about 6 of them
[07:41] <muriu> Guys! Will anyone please help with the communication with a windows comp problem!
[07:41] <DerangedDingo> Oh, sorry, Insomniac190, you thought I meant a mac-style dock... Sorry
[07:42] <foug> bruenig: k i found an apt-get process but when trying to kill it, operation not permitted
[07:42] <bruenig> foug, not sure, but generally the number of them doesn't mean that there literally is a lot of them running it just registers that way for some reason, like sometimes you will have like five instances of python running if you are running a python app, but it is really just one
[07:42] <TaterSallad> I have a desktop with 240gigs just setting there and I never really use it anymore since I purchased this notebook...   the question here is what do I do with it?  make a server out of it for file sharing?  make a really cool myth tv box since I don't have a dvr anyhow?  hmmm   decisions decisions
[07:42] <bruenig> foug, what is the number?
[07:42] <RAOF> foug: getty is the terminal program which provides the login prompt etc on your virtual terminals (Ctrl+Alt+F1-6)
[07:42] <Lapinux> ummm, am i missing something or is there no trash bin in ubuntu?
[07:42] <Lapinux> lol
[07:42] <foug> bruenig: 6072, -sigkill isn't working either
[07:42] <foug> RAOF: ahhh, got'cha :)
[07:42] <bruenig> foug, sudo kill -9 6072
[07:43] <foug> bruenig: what does -9 do?
[07:43] <TaterSallad> Lapinux, look on the bottom right
[07:43] <TaterSallad> if it's not there right click and add it
[07:43] <Lapinux> lol, its hidden down there
[07:43] <insomniac190> DerangedDingo: no problem
[07:44] <TaterSallad> click add to panel and you can dress it up more
[07:44] <bruenig> foug, read the man page, it explains it better than I can
[07:44] <foug> bruenig: lol allright, it worked btw, thanks :D
[07:44] <jdt> muriu: assuming you are trying to connect to a windows share? if you cannot simply use the Places > Connect to Server option then try looking up smbmount
[07:44] <bruenig> foug, so you can aptitude remove now?
[07:44] <foug> bruenig: yup, it's uninstalled
[07:44] <jdt> Places > Connect to server assumes you are using Gnome btw
[07:44] <bruenig> still got it
[07:45] <kenthomson> Help! Yesterday my automatic update manager listed some 44mb of updates (including linux kernel and it's headers) so i let it update itself, after a while "the changed had been applied", and i was asked to restart the system. I did do. But on restarting the grub had two new entries, which were ubuntu*-16 and ubuntu*-16(generic) in addition to the ubuntu*-15 and ubuntu-16*(generic). Now whenever i go into any of these four uptions i get an error
[07:45] <kenthomson> from grub "Error 15: File not found". I have not changed my HDD's or it's jumpers or anything else. The only thing i did was auto-update and it went well. The computer was restarted only after auto-update told me to do so. Now i can't boot ubuntu, please HELP!
[07:45] <DerangedDingo> insomniac190: There's a gnome applet that's community produced that imitates an element of the Mac panel.. i just need a bit of help with it
[07:46] <gaten> kenthomson: try changing the root entry in one of the boot options to another drive, see if that helps.
[07:47] <kenthomson> gaten: how do i do that? (i have not changed any of my HDDs, infact not opened my cabinet since a long time)
[07:47] <doseryder> what linux command is equivalent to "ipconfig /release" or "ipconfig /renew"? Thx :)
[07:47] <TaterSallad> ifconfig
[07:47] <TaterSallad> as in "F"
[07:47] <kenthomson> doseryder: you could try resetting the network by "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart", and that will renew your IP if you get it via DHCP.
[07:47] <foug> hmm, now i'm trying to install audacious and "sudo apt-get audacious" says "Invalid operation audacious"
[07:48] <TaterSallad> in case your sight is like mine
[07:48] <TaterSallad> wanted to emphasize that
[07:48] <kenthomson> foug: sudo apt-get install audacious
[07:48] <crimsun> foug: of course.  You omitted "install".
[07:48] <foug> o god i'm so retarded
[07:48] <Rasitiln> Ive got a strange issues, my second hard drives, ext3 fs. It wont let me write to the root of the hdd (IE my mount point) but inside any of the other directorys I can write. It says I'm not the owner of not the owner of the drive/mount point. Despite myself using the chown command
[07:48] <kenthomson> crimsun: want to help?
[07:48] <DerangedDingo> kenthomson: from the grub shell, run "find /boot/grub/menu.lst", make whatever partition it finds root by running "root (hdX,X)", and then "setup (hdX)
[07:48] <crimsun> kenthomson: can't ATM.  I'm in a conf call.
[07:48] <TaterSallad> oh, didn't even pay attention to the release/renew
[07:49] <kenthomson> DerangedDingo: will that do it?
[07:49] <TaterSallad> sorry about that
[07:49] <kenthomson> DerangedDingo: i mean that's all?
[07:49] <DerangedDingo> it should reinstall grub, and write a new menu.lst with the new kernel entries
[07:49] <kenthomson> DerangedDingo: what if it tells me "can't find *menu.lst"?
[07:49] <DerangedDingo> if that doesn't work you might need a livecd
[07:49] <kenthomson> DerangedDingo: and what am i supposed to do with a live cd?
[07:49] <DerangedDingo> then just take a guess at your root partition
[07:49] <DerangedDingo> a few commands to figure out what's up
[07:49] <kenthomson> DerangedDingo: it is hd0.1
[07:50] <Rasitiln> anyone?
[07:50] <doseryder> TaterSallad,  what options arguments do i need to achieve /release and /renew?  Or should i just restart the file like the other user recommended
[07:50] <TaterSallad> not sure
[07:50] <n2diy> Rasitiln: I just checked in, what is the question?
[07:51] <Rasitiln> Ive got a strange issues, my second hard drives, ext3 fs. It wont let me write to the root of the hdd (IE my mount point) but inside any of the other directorys I can write. It says I'm not the owner of not the owner of the drive/mount point. Despite myself using the chown command
[07:51] <DerangedDingo> then go for it. if it doesn't work, there's a few GRUB tutorials out there that will help you restore everything. at the worst your partition UUIDs have changed
[07:51] <TaterSallad> I just do that w/ the gui
[07:51] <kenthomson> doseryder: try reading ifconfig "man ifconfig"
[07:51] <DerangedDingo> which just requires you to edit a text file or two
[07:51] <kenthomson> DerangedDingo: how do i check what are my partition UUIDS
[07:51] <crimsun> Rasitiln: chowning a mountpoint is the wrong approach.  What mount options are active for said mount partition?
[07:51] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Who does Ubuntu think owns it?
[07:52] <TaterSallad> but I never have any issues out my connection either, whether I use DHCP  or Static
[07:52] <Rasitiln> its set up for defaults though I tried user with it
[07:52] <foug> ok so i didn't completly uninstall audacious, all the add ons i isntalled for it are still there and that's what i need to remove. how do i completly get rid of them?
[07:52] <DerangedDingo> kenthomson: from a live cd... I think.. "blkid" in the terminal
[07:52] <TaterSallad> so that is why I don't know.
[07:52] <jdt> doseryder - /etc/init.d/networking restart will achieve basically the same thing as a /release, /renew.
[07:52] <boghog> hi
[07:52] <Rasitiln> It says its owned by root despite myself trying to chown it
[07:52] <Myrtti> Rasitiln: check if you've mounted it readonly, suided/gided it or given other users permissions
[07:52] <Rasitiln> It isnt mounted read only I can write inside of the drive just not the root of the drive
[07:52] <crimsun> kenthomson: it sounds like fstab reverted to /dev/hd* syntax instead of mount-by-UUID.
[07:52] <Tom_Kun_> does anyone know what type of graphics toolkit java on linux utilizes?
[07:52] <crimsun> kenthomson: was the initramfs for the new kernel(s) (re)generated correctly?
[07:53] <kenthomson> crimsun: i don't know what that means
[07:53] <boghog> I'm trying to format an ext2 partition to ntfs using gparted, but it keeps failing because the partition is constantly being auto-mounted under /media/ which causes the device to be busy and gparted to fail. how can I stop the auto-mounting?
[07:53] <kenthomson> crimsun: i was completely doing everything from the GUI (i mean the auto-update)
[07:53] <Rasitiln> The line from my /etc/fstab
[07:53] <Rasitiln> UUID=f1527f28-c9fe-40ff-843c-2a5bdb038c4e /media/sda1     ext3    defaults       0       2
[07:53] <DerangedDingo> kenthomson: running the command "blkid" in the terminal will tell you information about your partitions (including UUIDs)
[07:54] <crimsun> kenthomson: do you have a digital camera with which you can take a photo of the error when you choose a recovery boot option?
[07:54] <Rasitiln> it says the drive is owned by root, I want it owned or at least the drive root /media/sda1 writeable by myself
[07:54] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Umm, why do you want to write to / ? That is why linux is secure compared to winders, you can't do foolish stuff.
[07:54] <Rasitiln> it isnt /
[07:54] <boghog> not that the automounting happens during gparted executing the task, I have already tried to manually unmount the volume (by rightclicking on it in nautilus and selecting "Unmount volume")
[07:54] <Rasitiln> its /media/sda1
[07:54] <Rasitiln> its just the root of that hdd
[07:55] <Rasitiln> IE if i want to make a folder like /media/sda1/videos I cant
[07:55] <REGJAVA> How do i enable TV out in ubuntu?
[07:55] <Rasitiln> but if I go in an already existing folder I can create folders etc
[07:55] <kenthomson> crimsun: i don't have it ATM, but there is nothing worth looking, On selecting the recovery or the std. kernel on the first line on black b/g with white text a line comes "Error 15:File not found", and that's all--the rest of the screen is black
[07:55] <kenthomson> DerangedDingo: crimsun: What do you think the problem could be? Will i have to write a new menu.lst and /etc/fstab or both or nothing or what?
[07:55] <crimsun> Rasitiln: meaning an already existing folder beneath /media/sda1/videos/ ?
[07:56] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Do you have permission to write to /media/sda1?
[07:56] <Rasitiln> Meaning Ive existing data on the HDD like my mp3 folder so I can write to /media/sda1/mp3 but I cant write to /media/sda1
[07:56] <DerangedDingo> kenthomson: POSSIBLY, a new fstab. "setup (hdX)" will write a new menu.lst for you
[07:56] <crimsun> kenthomson: hmm, can you boot from a live cd and look at the /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[07:56] <DerangedDingo> aswell as autodetec everything
[07:56] <boghog> nevermind, got it working by disabling mounting of 'removable media' even though it's not really removable but I guess gnome sees it that way
[07:57] <Rasitiln> Yes I do n2diy
[07:57] <crimsun> kenthomson: (not the live cd's [casper's]  menu.lst but the one for your install)
[07:57] <espen80> is there anyway i can "reboot" or restart only one of my network cards?
[07:57] <kenthomson> crimsun: i can now,
[07:57] <crimsun> espen80: ifdown, ifup.
[07:57] <kenthomson> crimsun: what do you want to see from it?
[07:57] <gaten> kenthomson: i would just boot grub and edit the entries on the fly and see which one works
[07:57] <espen80> ty
[07:57] <Rasitiln> Yes espen80 just bring the IF up and down
[07:57] <crimsun> kenthomson: its contents
[07:57] <kenthomson> gaten: that is if one knows how to edit them on the fly
[07:57] <JuanTao> I've tried several attempts to setup a firewall and do NAT on eth1 for my LAN including the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/server/C/ip-masquerading.html and firewallhttp://www.section6.net/wiki/index.php/Setting_up_a_Firewall_NAT_using_IPTables but i've only succeeded in breaking stuff (three ffr's) any recommendations?
[07:58] <Rasitiln> anyone got any ideas?
[07:58] <Rasitiln> Its really freaking weird Ive never had an issues like this
[07:58] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Umm, let me cook on this, I don't have any solutions at the moment.
[07:58] <gaten> kenthomson: its easy. highlight the one u want to edit, and hit e, the highlight the "root" line, then hit e again
[07:58] <Rasitiln> Its cool, not really important this second just really freaking annoying
[07:58] <gaten> kenthomson: at the bottom of the boot screen it tells you all this
[07:58] <crimsun> Rasitiln: did you own the original partition's files?
[07:58] <Rasitiln> Yes I did
[07:58] <kenthomson> gaten: i know but_what_to edit is the question
[07:58] <crimsun> Rasitiln: and this is an ext[23]  partition?
[07:59] <kenthomson> crimsun: somehow the windows EXT3 driver can't open my root partition
[07:59] <kenthomson> crimsun: do you think my partition could have got corrupted?
[07:59] <Rasitiln> ext3
[07:59] <crimsun> kenthomson: use a live cd
[07:59] <gaten> kenthomson: the line that looks like root(hd1,0). change that to like root(hd0,0)
[07:59] <crimsun> Rasitiln: so what are the mount options?
[07:59] <Rasitiln> its freaking odd I cant own the root of the drive, but everything else on the drive I own and can write too, but it refuses to let me own/write to the root of the hdd
[07:59] <Rasitiln> just defaults right now
[07:59] <kenthomson> crimsun: ok doing that, but first i would like to do that grub trick
[07:59] <kenthomson> gaten: ok
[07:59] <Rasitiln> I had use defaults,user
[08:00] <Frogzoo> kenthomson: boot off a cd & fsck the partition
[08:00] <kenthomson> Frogzoo: what is the exact command?
[08:00] <crimsun> Rasitiln: user doesn't control file permissions but who can['t]  mount the partition.
[08:00] <Myrtti> defaults Uses the default options that are rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser, and async.
[08:00] <kenthomson> crimsun: gaten: Frogzoo: Do you think the ubuntu-20-*-16 kernel is causing all this problems? Is it buggy?
[08:00] <Frogzoo> kenthomson: fsck /dev/###
[08:00] <Rasitiln> I can mount and unmount it,  as a user with out any kinda sudo
[08:01] <Frogzoo> kenthomson: I highly doubt it - what's the problem?
[08:01] <Rasitiln> so the nouser is whats doing it Myrtti ?
[08:01] <gaten> kenthomson: unlikely
[08:01] <kenthomson> Frogzoo: just wait a minute
[08:01] <Myrtti> Rasitiln: you could try suid=${USER}
[08:01] <kenthomson> Frogzoo: Help! Yesterday my automatic update manager listed some 44mb of updates (including linux kernel and it's headers) so i let it update itself, after a while "the changed had been applied", and i was asked to restart the system. I did do. But on restarting the grub had two new entries, which were ubuntu*-16 and ubuntu*-16(generic) in addition to the ubuntu*-15 and ubuntu-16*(generic). Now whenever i go into any of these four uptions i get an
[08:01] <kenthomson> error from grub "Error 15: File not found". I have not changed my HDD's or it's jumpers or anything else. The only thing i did was auto-update and it went well. The computer was restarted only after auto-update told me to do so. Now i can't boot ubuntu, please HELP!
[08:02] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Mounting, and writing are two different things, what does ls on the device show you?
[08:02] <JuanTao> anybody have success setting up a firewall and NAT from the command line?
[08:03] <Rasitiln> what do you mean n2diy like ls on the /dev/sda1 or on the mount point?
[08:03] <n2diy> Rasitiln: both.
[08:04] <Frogzoo> kenthomson: the partition's file system is not the issue, the issue is grub not finding the kernel/boot partition
[08:04] <chung> hi
[08:05] <kenthomson> Frogzoo: and that should be taken care of by root (hdx,x) setup (hdx)?
[08:05] <kenthomson> Frogzoo: what if grub tells me it can't find "menu.lst"?
[08:05] <JuanTao> kenthomson: I had this error yesterday and I went away after a reboot...
[08:05] <kenthomson> Frogzoo: i am having a fear that my / partition would have got corrected
[08:05] <Frogzoo> !grub | kenthomson
[08:05] <ubotu> kenthomson: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:05] <kenthomson> JuanTao: mind doesn't want to go away
[08:06] <Myrtti> kenthomson: I'd say the best you can do is get a live cd, see what it says your partitions are, make a note of them and boot without the live and see how you need to fix the menu.lst
[08:06] <bullgard4> What does 'Apport' mean in 'Apport retracing service'?
[08:06] <JuanTao> sorry
[08:06] <Rasitiln> it says I own the mount point and everything with in the drive
[08:06] <Rasitiln> Do I need to use uid=XXX in the fstab?
[08:06] <kenthomson> Frogzoo: JuanTao: Myrtti: crimsun: gabe: Thanks All! I shall try all that revert back to you. Have a nice day!
[08:07] <n2diy> ok, do you have permission to write to /dev? /dev/sdaX
[08:08] <Myrtti> Rasitiln: I'd try that
[08:08] <Rasitiln> how do I pull up my uid?
[08:08] <Rasitiln> Ive forgotten :-/
[08:08] <neztiti> how i start the program n0-ip
[08:09] <Rasitiln> isnt uid of users just 1000?
[08:09] <n2diy> Rasitiln: I wouldn't mess with uuid now, and no, you have your own uid.
[08:09] <jbraddoc> So I am going to throw my problem out here.. I was setting up SMB to be a domain controller, added my self to a group that i created called smbuser and some how after I did that, i kicked my self out of the sudoer's file. How do I get back in?
[08:09] <Rasitiln> its the only thing Ive not tried n2diy
[08:10] <RAOF> jbraddoc: You either need to fix your sudoers file (if you've broken that), or re-add yourself to the "admin" group.
[08:10] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Well, uuid is unique to Ubuntu, no other distro is using it now, so your on the cutting edge.
[08:11] <RAOF> jbraddoc: Running "groups" at a terminal should tell you if you're still in the "admin" group.  If you aren't, then that's what you need to fix first.
[08:11] <jbraddoc> ... I can't do anything that requires sudo because it emails me saying I don't have access
[08:11] <Rasitiln> no just uid
[08:11] <Rasitiln> not uuid
[08:11] <Rasitiln> IE in my mount options uid=*my user id here*
[08:11] <jbraddoc> ... I see what I did..
[08:12] <insomniac190> is there any way to use peer to peer software for single song downloads instead of bittorrent?
[08:12] <Myrtti> Rasitiln: yes.
[08:12] <newbie> Help: how many chance to have md5($str1)==md5($str2) with str1<>str2 ?
[08:12] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Ok, but aren't most distro's using fstab with sda1,0 formats yet?
[08:12] <BrokenCrystal> frostwire
[08:12] <jbraddoc> I thought usermod -G added to the list, not completely replacing everything..
[08:12] <Zoiks> anyone able to help me with an ipod issue?
[08:12] <BrokenCrystal> gtkpod
[08:12] <jbraddoc> NOw, RAOF -- How do I add my self to the admin group if I am the only account on the machine?
[08:12] <jbraddoc> I am ssh'd into the machine.
[08:12] <frying_fish> jbraddoc, you're going to want to gain root, and go and edit /etc/group manually
[08:12] <insomniac190> BrokenCrystal: was frostwire aimed at me?
[08:12] <Zoiks> BrokenCrystal: not that simple, the ipod is not mounting
[08:13] <frying_fish> jbraddoc, you don't have physical access to it?
[08:13] <jbraddoc> I do have physical access, but it doesn't have anything accept a power cord and rj45 connected.
[08:13] <BrokenCrystal> frostwire is for file sharing
[08:13] <jbraddoc> and I don't have root access either..
[08:13] <frying_fish> jbraddoc, well I recommend hooking a keyboard and a monitor to it
[08:13] <jbraddoc> err.. I don't have a root password
[08:13] <frying_fish> rebooting and booting "single" mode
[08:14] <RAOF> jbraddoc: Oh.  You're not in the admin group and you don't have physical access?
[08:14] <BrokenCrystal> like limewire
[08:14] <BrokenCrystal> but opensource
[08:14] <frying_fish> which will let you get past the need for root access, as it boots as root
[08:14] <jbraddoc> I was in the admin group, but i killed that..
[08:14] <Yggdrasil> does anyone know why nvu isnt availiable in feisty ? is there somethign better that they are hinting us toward ?
[08:14] <jbraddoc> So, how do I get to single user? Recovery mode or what?
[08:14] <BrokenCrystal> limewire is also available for linux, but not open
[08:14] <frying_fish> yeah recovery mode
[08:14] <RAOF> jbraddoc: That's not fun.  In fact, I'm *pretty* sure that you'd need to actually find some exploit to fix your setup without sitting down with a keyboard
[08:14] <Rasitiln> this is really starting to bother me, I cant write to the root of the drive, despite owning both the file and the options being setup in /etc/fstab and having ran the chown/chmod commands on it.
[08:14] <insomniac190> BrokenCrystal: ok just checkin to see you werent talking to someone else
[08:14] <REGJAVA> Is there any Gtalk tool for ubuntu?
[08:15] <Rasitiln> it still says owner root on the root of the drive :-/
[08:15] <jbraddoc> I cant even shut the system down with out being root...
[08:15] <jbraddoc> grrr.
[08:15] <BrokenCrystal> there is checkgmail for ubuntu
[08:15] <frying_fish> Rasitiln, then you aren't changing the permissions, i.e. the account you are doing it with doesn't have permission to do it
[08:15] <frying_fish> jbraddoc, yes you can do it wihtout being root
[08:15] <Rasitiln> Im using sudo frying_fish
[08:15] <frying_fish> push the power button
[08:16] <RAOF> Yay for acpi.
[08:16] <frying_fish> Rasitiln, are you piping it through something, such as      sudo foo | chown -R bar
[08:16] <Rasitiln> no Im not
[08:16] <frying_fish> odd
[08:16] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Are you on the box, or logged in remotely?
[08:16] <Yggdrasil> is there a wysiwyg html thing for feisty ?
[08:16] <Rasitiln> This is my home box
[08:16] <RAOF> !nvu | Yggdrasil
[08:16] <Rasitiln> Im sitting at it right now
[08:17] <ubotu> Yggdrasil: nvu is a WYSIWYG and code dual-function HTML editor for easily creating web pages.  The original developer is working on a full rewrite; meanwhile, another is doing bugfixes.  It is not in the Ubuntu repos for Feisty Fawn, but add your name to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WaitingForNvuFeisty to be notified when packages are available.  See also !html.
[08:17] <anhdeptrai> how to register my nick?
[08:17] <anhdeptrai> help me pls!!
[08:17] <RAOF> Rasitiln: So, the root directory of the mounted drive is owned by root, but everything under it is owned by you?
[08:17] <n2diy> Rasitiln: and you currently have physical access to it?
[08:17] <Yggdrasil> raof hah thanks.
[08:17] <anhdeptrai> how to register my nick?
[08:17] <Rasitiln> yes n2diy and raof
[08:17] <anhdeptrai> help me pls!!
[08:17] <muriu> Guys, can anyone help me connect to a computer on the network that uses windows? What is SAMBA?
[08:17] <Rasitiln> actually the directory says its owned by me /media/sda1
[08:18] <illriginal> Hey guys I'm tryin to enable my Hyperthreading... does anyone know how to do this?
[08:18] <Rasitiln> but I  cant write to the root of the drive
[08:18] <jbraddoc> okay I have access to the machine -- what do I do?
[08:18] <crimsun> illriginal: ht=on  IIR
[08:18] <crimsun> IIRC ^
[08:18] <RAOF> jbraddoc: Press the power button.  Wait for it to shut down.
[08:18] <illriginal> type that command into terminal?
[08:18] <n2diy> Rasitiln: have you checked your permissions on /media?
[08:18] <RAOF> jbraddoc: Then, fire it up again, and select "recovery mode" from grub.
[08:18] <crimsun> illriginal: append it to the kernel command line in grub/lilo
[08:18] <Rasitiln> how would that effect /media/sda1 ?
[08:18] <jbraddoc> I was still in X, so it let me shutdown -- its rebooting.
[08:18] <anethema> anyone here run utorrent under wine? for some reason..utorrent window will display the first run after instal, but after that, i start it and it just runs in the background..i cant bring the window up
[08:18] <illriginal> in the menu.list ?
[08:19] <anethema> anyone know how to bring it up ?
[08:19] <RAOF> jbraddoc: Then, once you're in recovery mode, you want to "adduser _yourusername_ admin"
[08:19] <n2diy> Rasitiln: I don't think you can write to /media/sba1, if you can't write to /media.
[08:19] <illriginal> crimsun... heh i don't know much so if you can, bare with me lol
[08:19] <frying_fish> anethema, why bother with that torrent client, there are multiple native ones with the same capabilities.
[08:19] <RAOF> n2diy: Not generally the case.
[08:19] <anethema> same as utorrent? whats a good one ?
[08:19] <jbraddoc> No way of having ubuntu 'restore' the original groups is there?
[08:19] <anethema> frying_fish
[08:19] <n2diy> sba1/sda1*
[08:19] <newbie> Help: how to input a char into Gedit when ascii value > 127 , example: &#187
[08:20] <blackjackel> Help! I typed "man IceWM" and one line in there says: "IceWM  manual  for  further
[08:20] <blackjackel>        information about them.
[08:20] <blackjackel> " what am I supposed to do?
[08:20] <n2diy> RAOF: Roger, shooting in the dark. :)
[08:20] <frying_fish> jbraddoc, not automatically, however, you can probably guess what they need to be
[08:20] <BrokenCrystal> Deluge (bittorrent client)
[08:20] <Rasitiln> well my ntfs partition is compleatly readable and writable where as this ext3 one isnt same options etc
[08:20] <anethema> frying_fish: basically need a decent torrent client with a rss reader built in..was hoping not to use azureus because of its giant memory usage
[08:20] <illriginal> crimsun: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:20] <illriginal> ?
[08:20] <RAOF> jbraddoc: No, not really.  If you've *really* messed up the groups, you should probably add yourself to the video, audio, and (I think) plugdev groups
[08:20] <anethema> frying_fish: any suggestions ?
[08:20] <Rasitiln> the whole thing is mind boggling
[08:20] <muriu> Whats this chat room for if i can't get anyone to help out!!!!!!!!!
[08:21] <crimsun> illriginal: no
[08:21] <newbie> Help: how to input a char into Gedit when ascii value > 127 , example: &#187
[08:21] <jbraddoc> well, thats the thing I am using ubuntu server, have a lamp server installed and was using the desktop task..
[08:21] <crimsun> illriginal: (at least, not yet)
[08:21] <illriginal> oh
[08:21] <michup> hi, i use ubuntu edgy i would like to configure properly my apache, svftpd, sshd and inetd to work like this: if someone would like to put webs on this server i add user like www.foo.org and this is his store area for files via ftp, and if he would like to change his password (only via ssh) then session lunch only passwd and after it finished it work it log him out
[08:21] <illriginal> ok
[08:21] <crimsun> illriginal: when you reboot, there's a boot menu
[08:21] <insomniac190> Zokis: did anyone help with the ipod issue
[08:21] <crimsun> illriginal: choose one of the options, then press 'e' if you're using grub
[08:21] <illriginal> right? memory test and failsafe
[08:21] <Rasitiln> ok here is something new
[08:21] <Rasitiln> I can mount the drive as a user with out using sudo
[08:21] <Rasitiln> but I cant unmount it with out sudo
[08:21] <frying_fish> anethema, http://tvtrss.sourceforge.net/ try that, see if it covers what you need
[08:22] <Rasitiln> it says it disagrees with fstab
[08:22] <crimsun> illriginal: afterward, scroll down to the kernel line, then edit it so that you append " ht=on" (without the quotes) to the very end
[08:22] <illriginal> ok so hit esc, it'll go into the boot menu to choose what operating system in the list, pick generic ubuntu, then quickly hit e?
[08:22] <Rasitiln> which is strange
[08:22] <crimsun> illriginal: then press Enter and b to boot
[08:22] <Regure> anyone here belong to indietorrent
[08:22] <anethema> thanks frying_fish ill check it out
[08:22] <frying_fish> anethema, you could always try torrentflux (web based via php) and get the torrentflux-rss plugin for it
[08:22] <Rasitiln> Any Ideas? Perhaps its connected to the cant write in the root of the drive issues
[08:22] <frying_fish> if it still exists
[08:22] <x-Dieu> anhdeptrai with /msg nickserv help register - for more informations
[08:23] <n2diy> RAOF: Can you re-mount it, with out rebooting?
[08:23] <anethema> thats why i liked utorrent, its a nice solution, well programmed, with everything i need
[08:23] <anethema> just wish wine wouldnt hide it after the first run
[08:23] <jbraddoc> Thanks RAOF and frying_fish
[08:23] <Rasitiln> n2diy, you refering to me?
[08:23] <illriginal> alright gonna try it crimsun
[08:23] <insomniac190> Zoiks: still here?
[08:23] <frying_fish> jbraddoc, got root on it then?
[08:23] <RAOF> n2diy: Yes, you shoudl be able to re-mount without rebooting.
[08:23] <n2diy> Rasitiln: yes, sorry, getting late.
[08:23] <jbraddoc> I believe so
[08:24] <Regure> any indietorrent members in here?
[08:24] <frying_fish> jbraddoc, sweet
[08:24] <Rasitiln> n2diy, ya I got you, I can remount it as user with out using sudo no reboot required
[08:24] <Rasitiln> n2diy: but I cannot unmount it
[08:24] <RAOF> Rasitiln: So, presumably it's got the option "users" in fstab?
[08:24] <Yggdrasil> well im glad they are rewriting nvu because it was pretty bad
[08:24] <Yggdrasil> hahah
[08:24] <Rasitiln> yes RAOF it does
[08:24] <defcon_> for some reason my ubuntu is running really slow, how do I optimize it, isnt it supposed to run faster than ubuntu, also I dont think i have a swap file, how do I check
[08:24] <jbraddoc> so all I need to do is umm.. adduser *name* *group* without the *'s?
[08:25] <Myrtti> jbraddoc: yes
[08:25] <RAOF> jbraddoc: Indeed.  Replacing "name" with your username and "group" with admin
[08:25] <jbraddoc> why was I told usermod ?
[08:25] <RAOF> jbraddoc: Because people don't know their tools well :)
[08:25] <jbraddoc> Oh
[08:25] <jbraddoc> hrmm
[08:25] <Bogaurd> hi there.. is there a way to change the libnotify popups that come with ubuntu feisty? I dont mind them as such, I just dont like the fact that they obscure the panel :-(
[08:25] <Regure> how do i fix my mail for ox. it won't let me send mail out because i have at&t dsl?
[08:26] <n2diy> Rasitiln: RAOF: ???? what happens when you try to umount it. (note, not unmount)
[08:26] <jbraddoc> well you guys helped me and it is much appreciated..
[08:26] <SteveWrightNZ> can someone help with my broken feisty nvidia config please.  pm me thanks.
[08:26] <Rasitiln> n2diy, it says umount: /dev/sda1 mount disagrees with the fstab
[08:27] <Rasitiln> but if I use sudo umount /dev/sda1 it lets me unmount it
[08:27] <Rasitiln> so something is really odd with the permissions on the filesystem
[08:28] <n2diy> Rasitiln: good, that shows that you can't play with it, but sudo can! Can you mount it now, or do you need sudo to do it?
[08:28] <Rasitiln> I can mount it with out sudo
[08:28] <Rasitiln> I just cannot unmount it with out sudo
[08:28] <Rasitiln> which is damn strange
[08:29] <blu3ness> hello guys, i hav a weird problem, after shutting down my laptop, it mysteriously starts up again in about 10 minutes
[08:29] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Strange indeed!! can you write to it now?
[08:29] <blu3ness> any ideas? i havn't done any upgrades to it besides the generic kernel that was out yesterday.. I hav fglrx driver which causes me not to suspend properly
[08:29] <Rasitiln> I cannot write to the root of the drive, n2diy but I can still write to the directorys with in the drive
[08:30] <Rasitiln> its 250gig sata western digital drive, if that helps
[08:30] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Are there Window files in / ?
[08:31] <Rasitiln> n2diy,  no it is just a storage drive, I use for dumping data
[08:31] <jbraddoc> So one more, i hope -- I need to add the machine whitebrick to my userlist -- my system is a domain controller -- is this correct?
[08:31] <Rasitiln> n2diy, its never had an os on it at all
[08:31] <hydan> hello, i'm glad this channel exist :) i need help getting video to display in beryl, that's my only problem and i'll be through configuring ubuntu (and finally getting to learning more python!)
[08:32] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Ok, my Sandisk 1g came with Winders stuff, but I haven't had trouble with it, yet. And Dell used to hide partiions on there stuff, so I had to ask.. ??
[08:33] <Rasitiln> nah when I got it from western digital, it formated the entire drive fresh with ext3
[08:33] <jazzanova> hi
[08:33] <Rasitiln> no hidden anything on this just one big partition
[08:34] <illriginal> crimsun... are you sure that's what i need to do?
[08:34] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Ok, I guess you want to right to /, so you can boot from it? Otherwise I'd ignore it.
[08:34] <silvernode> hey whats the program called that has a library of shoutcast nd various other radio stations? It has a green arrow as it's icon and opens with xmms
[08:34] <illriginal> there's a few lines i can edit.. the very last night is "save default"
[08:34] <hydan> oops wrong channel :P
[08:34] <n2diy> right/write*
[08:34] <crimsun> illriginal: edit the 'kernel' line.
[08:34] <Rasitiln> no n2diy I just want to beable to write to the root of the drive so I can make new folders for storing my stuff.
[08:35] <Rasitiln> IE ive got folders like "docs" and "videos"
[08:35] <illriginal> there was vm something and inet to choose from crimsun
[08:35] <crimsun> illriginal: kernel and initrd, respectively
[08:35] <crabgrass> is there a way to print out what mpd's playing? 'mpd status' doesn't work
[08:35] <crimsun> illriginal: you need to edit the kernel line
[08:36] <illriginal> alright... and at the end of that line just hit space and type: ht=on
[08:36] <illriginal> correct?
[08:36] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Ok, actually, this may be a good thing, store your stuff under /home/Rasitiln, that is better then putting them in /.
[08:36] <crimsun> illriginal: yes
[08:36] <illriginal> alright crimsun, should there be any errors for any reason?
 no n2diy I just want to beable to write to the root of the drive so I can make new folders for storing my stuff. <---
[08:36] <Rasitiln> n2diy, you dont understand, this is a storage drive it doesnt hold any OS at all
[08:37] <crimsun> illriginal: after you press Enter and b?
[08:37] <illriginal> yes sir
[08:37] <crimsun> illriginal: no, why?
[08:37] <n2diy> NevroPus: you can't always get what you want. :)
[08:37] <illriginal> just makin sure crimsun :D
[08:37] <illriginal> brb
[08:37] <urbanp00r> is the BUG: soft lockup on CPU#0 solved yet?
[08:37] <[g0t0] > need help on instlaing without cd and floppy-dripe
[08:37] <Rasitiln> Ive got 2 hard disks, one has my ubuntu/windows/swap partitions. The second the one I want to beable to write to the root on, is just a big ext3 partition for storing stuff
[08:38] <crabgrass> is there a way to print out what mpd's playing? 'mpd status' doesn't work
[08:38] <Rasitiln> not being able to unmount it is just odd
[08:38] <koresko> My PC as 1 GB in it, and the kernel only recognizes about 750 MB.  Can I switch to another kernel to fix that?  I would rather not build a new kernel if possible.
[08:38] <[g0t0] > i already download the iso
[08:38] <Rasitiln> same with not being able to write to the root of the drive
[08:39] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Ok, fine business, I have run out of rabbits to pull out of the hat.  Something is write protected, and it appears to be the root directory. I don't know how to change that.
[08:39] <Dallas> Hey guys, my ubuntu servers seem to take forever to accept an SSH connection
[08:39] <Rasitiln> it shouldnt be write protected, Ive set the permissions chowned everything etc etc and it still wont let me :-(
[08:39] <[g0t0] > i can pxe boot, but i dont want to download all package from internet again
[08:39] <Dallas> But after I've connected, they're just fine
[08:40] <urbanp00r> having trouble with my 7.04.. i don't have any wireless card.. intel p4 core duo 1.86GHz, GeFORCE fx5200, 256MB memory, Asrock Board. im having BUG: soft lock on CPU#0 <<cant seem to boot
[08:40] <Dallas> Any idea what the problem might be?
[08:40] <crabgrass> urbanp00r: what mobo?
[08:40] <BrokenCrystal> nolspi
[08:40] <urbanp00r> AsRock
[08:40] <BradZ> crabgrass: what about "mpc status"?
[08:40] <BradZ> crabgrass: mpd is the daemon, mpc is the client
[08:40] <n2diy> Rasitiln: But you can write to sub-directories, what else could it be? Have you googled for this drive/problem?
[08:40] <crabgrass> BradZ: returns "problems opening file status for reading: No such file or directory"
[08:40] <illriginal> crimsun, now is there a way I may check to see if hyperthreading is activated?
[08:41] <Rasitiln> yes I have n2diy it worked fine on my previous ubuntu install
[08:41] <crabgrass> BradZ: oh, nevermind
[08:41] <BradZ> crabgrass: bugger, don't have my ubuntu box here at work to look further sorry.
[08:41] <crimsun> illriginal: dmesg
[08:41] <defcon_> !keyboardshortcuts
[08:41] <crabgrass> BradZ: nah, that did it, thanks man
[08:41] <Tacroy> I'm trying to make WPA work with a computer that's running as an access point, where should I start looking?
[08:41] <urbanp00r> crabgrass: its an asrock motherboard
[08:41] <defcon_> where can I set keyboard shortcuts for ubuntu
[08:41] <n2diy> Rasitiln: What is your current install, and what was your previous install?
[08:42] <defcon_> like alt F2 run, I want to change this
[08:42] <urbanp00r> crabgrass: any idea?
[08:42] <Rasitiln> my current is 7.0 pervious was 6.0
[08:42] <crabgrass> urbanp00r: try unplugging all the ide drives and see if it will boot
[08:42] <BradZ> crabgrass: cheers :)
[08:42] <crabgrass> urbanp00r: i mean, all but one cd drive
[08:42] <crabgrass> urbanp00r: so you can boot to a livecd
[08:42] <crabgrass> BradZ: thanks!
[08:42] <lgc> !cups
[08:42] <urbanp00r> crabgrass: how will i then install it?
[08:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[08:43] <urbanp00r> crabgrass: if it ever boot
[08:43] <crabgrass> urbanp00r: im having a problem right now with an asus motherboard not being able to boot into linux with more than one device on an ide cable at a time
[08:43] <hydan> can someone please help me get video playing while beryl is running?
[08:43] <crabgrass> urbanp00r: your problem might be related
[08:43] <crabgrass> urbanp00r: can you boot at all?
[08:43] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Ok, the numbers don't jive, but I get the idea. I'm out of options here, maybe something broke in the new kernel, and you have found a bug?
[08:43] <urbanp00r> crabgrass: i can boot winxp though...
[08:44] <defcon_> How do I set keyboard shortcuts
[08:44] <urbanp00r> crabgrass: cant seem to pass after the splash screen
[08:44] <Dallas> defcon_: System > Preferences > Keyboard Shortcuts
[08:44] <Rasitiln> dunno, Im done for the night, its just doesnt make sense, Ive even tried chowning it as root insted of sudo
[08:44] <crabgrass> urbanp00r: have you tried it in a recovery boot?
[08:44] <crabgrass> urbanp00r: if not, do so and see where it dies
[08:44] <Rasitiln> Im thinking something is fecked up in the FS
[08:44] <defcon_> dallas thankyou, can I define a shortcut for "any app"
[08:45] <Dallas> defcon_: no idea.
[08:45] <hydan> defcon_, System ->Preferences ->Keyboard Shortcuts
[08:45] <illriginal> crimsun: [   37.350643]  CPU: Hyper-Threading is disabled
[08:45] <urbanp00r> crabgrass: ok .. i will be back then.. can i still contact you if i ever have some advancements? email addy i mean
[08:45] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Why would you think that? Are you seeing other problems?
[08:45] <defcon_> hydan, there is a limited ammount of things I can use shortcuts with
[08:45] <urbanp00r> crabgrass: or you just thrive here?
[08:45] <crimsun> illriginal: is this feisty or edgy?
[08:45] <urbanp00r> crabgrass: :)
[08:45] <crabgrass> urbanp00r: im on here enough
[08:45] <Rasitiln> no not at all n2diy just that
[08:45] <illriginal> Also for some reason it took a long time to load the operating system, and this is feisty
[08:45] <crabgrass> urbanp00r: if you find anything, let me know
[08:45] <illriginal> crimsun ^
[08:46] <urbanp00r> crabgrass: thanks man..
[08:46] <defcon_> i downloaded the alt ctrl del patch for system monitor, how did it set the shortcut
[08:46] <Rasitiln> it seems like the only logical assumption save from a bug in ubuntu which seems unlikely to me
[08:46] <crabgrass> urbanp00r: np
[08:46] <crabgrass> /goodnight
[08:46] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Ok, why don't you run this by the folks at #ubuntu-kernel?
[08:46] <Rasitiln> k
[08:46] <defcon_> is it normal for apps in ubuntu feisty to take a long time to load, like 10 times slower than windows 98
[08:46] <defcon_> ?
[08:46] <crimsun> no, please don't, Rasitiln.
[08:47] <defcon_> i have a p4 3ghz
[08:47] <illriginal> crimsun this is my pastebin: http://www.pastebin.ca/518150
[08:47] <crimsun> that's a development channel, not a support channel.
[08:47] <defcon_> it takes like 50 secs to load anything
[08:47] <hydan> defcon_, are you wanting to set macros?
[08:47] <Rasitiln> ehh ok. Well Im not really seeking help any more. I know how to do this, it just wont do it
[08:47] <defcon_> !macros
[08:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about macros - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:47] <defcon_> no idea what u mean by macros*
[08:47] <n2diy> Rasitiln: crimsun, so just file a bug report on it?
[08:47] <crimsun> Rasitiln: why don't you strace it?  Also, have you used lsattr?  Are extended attributes enabled?
[08:48] <Rasitiln> I dont really know how to use lsattr or strace
[08:48] <hydan> defcon_, a simple "micros in linux" websearch should help you
[08:48] <crimsun> illriginal: erm, look at line 61
[08:48] <Rasitiln> I used these options rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,users,async in the fstab
[08:48] <defcon_> hydan, thankyou for the prompt response and help
[08:48] <koresko> Anyone want to help me choose a kernel?
[08:48] <hydan> defcon_, no prob :)
[08:48] <crimsun> illriginal: if you had used ht=on, it would appear there.
[08:49] <hydan> brb
[08:49] <illriginal> oh crap i did it on the other one... alright brb!
[08:49] <[g0t0] > anybody have knowledge on mirroriing ubuntu instalation locally (please pm)
[08:50] <defcon_> hydan, do u know about ways to optimize app load times?
[08:50] <defcon_> hydan, for some reason my ubuntu takes forever to load apps and runs things slow, I have a p4 hyperthread 3ghz with 712 meg ram
[08:50] <Sp4rKy> does the last kernel update have some problems ?
[08:50] <insomniac190> is there any easy way to transfer files from a windows computer to a linux laptop?  or is samba the way to go?
[08:51] <Hawkins> I was just about to ask same thing. My Ubuntu is really sluggish too, even compared to 2 years ago installed XP
[08:51] <Dallas> samba is the way...
[08:51] <n2diy> Rasitiln: crimsun, so just file a bug report on it?
[08:51] <crimsun> no
[08:51] <crimsun> file a support request
[08:51] <crimsun> answers.launchpad.net
[08:51] <hydan> defcon_, have you monitored your system processes while running ubuntu?
[08:52] <hydan> defcon_, maybe you can spot a specific program hogging all your sys resources
[08:52] <defcon_> hydan, what is the best way to monitor them, I do run system monitor
[08:52] <n2diy> Rasitiln: crimsun, roger, Rastitln copy that?
[08:52] <Skiff> does anyone has that onboard audio (ac97) that they were able to enable? if so how can i do it ?
[08:52] <Hawkins> defcon_, I use command 'top' in terminal
[08:52] <crimsun> Skiff: yes, why?
[08:52] <defcon_> hydan, I installed allot of things on my ubuntu, any way to help me clean it up without removing the wrong programs
[08:53] <Rasitiln> Ok this has to be a bug, I opened up nautilus as root and checked out the permissions
[08:53] <defcon_> Hawkins, thankyou, I'll try that out
[08:53] <Rasitiln> it says its owned by me and I can write to it
[08:53] <hydan> defcon_, you should only need aptitude or synaptic
[08:53] <Skiff> crimsun, Im unable to do it
[08:53] <Rasitiln> but I take a look at it as myself not root it says root owns it and that I cant write to it
[08:53] <defcon_> Hawkins, im in top now, looks exactly what I needed, is there a netstat like this
[08:53] <Skiff> crimsun, I have nforce 2 with the built in one
[08:53] <defcon_> i like active viewing
[08:53] <hydan> defcon_, in the system monitor program, click on the processes tab and then the  memory tab
[08:53] <Hawkins> defcon_, no problem. That was about the only thing I can help you with since I've run Ubuntu only hours now
[08:53] <crimsun> Skiff: I'm not sure what you mean by "Im unable to do it"
[08:53] <hydan> defcon_, that's the easiest way to monitor what's going on.
[08:53] <defcon_> hydan, ok
[08:54] <Skiff> crimsun, there is no sound, and nor gnome nor kde sees the device
[08:54] <Skiff> my sound card
[08:54] <crimsun> Skiff: ok, lspci -v|grep -i audio
[08:54] <SteveWrightNZ> nvidia problem fixed -  apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16
[08:54] <defcon_> Hawkins, I am a big fan of terminal apps myself, im hoping to get better in terminal for *nix
[08:54] <crimsun> Skiff: (what's the output?)
[08:54] <defcon_> i like how ubuntu is fast to get up and running
[08:54] <Tacroy> Is there a specific channel I should go to for help with wifi in general?
[08:55] <Skiff> crimsun, lspci -v|grep -i audio
[08:55] <Skiff> err
[08:55] <Skiff> no output
[08:55] <Skiff> just does it
[08:55] <Skiff> no messages or anything
[08:55] <Skiff> skiff@LinuxBox:~$ lspci -v|grep -i audio
[08:55] <Skiff> skiff@LinuxBox:~$
[08:55] <defcon_> what is the best app to monitor internet connections activlely
[08:55] <wangchun> Hi, I've a dual-monitor Linux workstation and a MacBook. I put MacBook between two monitors. Now I can move my Linux mouse from one Linux monitor (:0.0) to another (:0.1) or vice versa. I'm thinking about if possible for such a configuration of my computers/monitors. If I could add a third virtual desktop (:0.2), but the virtual desktop don't match any real monitor (since I don't have one more), but only for a vncviewer connect to the MacBook, so I can m
[08:56] <wangchun> Is it possible?
[08:56] <BrokenCrystal> what is wrong with your wifi
[08:56] <SteveWrightNZ> Tacroy:  /j #wireless
[08:56] <lux> alguien de mexicali o mexico
[08:56] <n2diy> defcon_: netstat?
[08:56] <CoRnJuLiOx> ok, i'm trying to log in to Xubuntu 6.10 and i'm getting an error that says my session lasted less than 10 seconds and that my installation may have a problem. the .xsession-errors file reports 'export: 4: 644: bad variable name' any ideas on how to fix it?
[08:56] <hydan> defcon_, ubuntu is fast and easily customizable and the community is unmatched.
[08:56] <Skiff> crimsun, any ideas?
[08:56] <Tacroy> Thanks!
[08:57] <Tacroy> Should have been obvious, duh.
[08:57] <illriginal> crimsun: http://www.pastebin.ca/518161
[08:57] <hydan> defcon_, from my exp. that is ;)
[08:57] <defcon_> n2diy, i run netstat all the time, is there a -parameter to keep it open an activly/constantly monitor connections
[08:57] <crimsun> Skiff: interesting.  Is it enabled in bios?
[08:57] <lux> un saludo a todos
[08:57] <sjoerd> wangchun: x2x might interest you (http://x2x.dottedmag.net/trac/do)
[08:57] <Skiff> crimsun, does bios even have that setting? Ill check though 1 sec
[08:57] <defcon_> hydan, i agree, its nice having a community of support, an open source product with open source help
[08:57] <defcon_> cant beat it, your right
[08:58] <Tom47> !es
[08:58] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[08:58] <n2diy> defcon_: check out tail, tail -f 5 or something like that may help you?
[08:58] <Tacroy> That might be Portugese though.
[08:58] <Tacroy> !br
[08:58] <Skiff> crimsun, what does that command do?
[08:58] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:58] <wangchun> sjoerd: thank you, i'll check it.
[08:58] <defcon_> n2diy, ok
[08:58] <defcon_> thankyou
[08:58] <crimsun> Skiff: it's lists pci audio cards
[08:58] <crimsun> it , even
[08:58] <Hawkins> My Ubuntu is booting up and shutting down extremely quick too but don't know why it's so darn slow while using it. I was at my friends yesterday and that really opened up my eyes on this slowness. He has over 4 years old basic laptop and I've got barely 2 years old (back then) hi-spec gaming PC and everything is really sluggish with my install. We both run Feisty and have been using Ubuntu <10 hours
[08:59] <Tom47> Hawkins run top in a terminal a nd see if there is anything hogging the processor
[08:59] <Hawkins> For example opening System menu from upper panel has about 1s lag
[08:59] <SteveWrightNZ> Hawkins: is its domain name set to something imposible ?
[08:59] <wangchun> But I wonder if I can have 3 virtual desktops (:0.0, :0.1, :0.2) while I only have two monitors.
[08:59] <Skiff> crimsun, thanks actually it was disabled in bios (not my computer sorry didnt even know) heh kinda silly ;)
[08:59] <Rasitiln> crimsun, n2diy take a look at this http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1543/screenshotwi4.png
[09:00] <n2diy> Rasitiln: roger, wait.
[09:00] <Hawkins> SteveWrightNZ, Sorry, didn't understand your question
[09:00] <silvernode> how to i edit the image of my ubuntu start menu?
[09:01] <Skiff> crimson it works, thanks
[09:01] <illriginal> crimsun, what do you think?
[09:01] <Hawkins> Tom47, I noticed that my Xorg is using about 4% CPU idling while my friend had it at 0.3% even though his processor is about half as fast as mine.
[09:01] <SteveWrightNZ> Hawkins: if you set the computers domain name to something that does not resolve, it can spend ages doing things
[09:01] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Ok, it is a cluttered desktop, what I'm I looking for?
[09:01] <Rasitiln> two windows there, one is opened up by myself as user and the second is opened up as root
[09:01] <v33v> who is familiar with openswan here
[09:02] <Rasitiln> notice the different file permissions reported by the two accounts
[09:02] <crimsun> illriginal: is it enabled in bios?
[09:02] <Hawkins> Tom47, Also when opening Firefox or any of menus Xorg hogs about 70% CPU capacity
[09:02] <Rasitiln> root says that I can write to it, where as if I look at the folder from my user account it says that only root can write to it
[09:02] <illriginal> i don't think my bios is up to date
[09:02] <illriginal> and i think bios has no updates as of now.
[09:03] <Hawkins> SteveWrightNZ, I'm quite newbie so could you tell me how to check that and how it should be ?
[09:03] <crimsun> illriginal: but is HyperThreading enabled in your bios?
[09:04] <Tom47> Hawkins i cannot solveyr probem but it lies in this area ... the numbers you are quoting are rificulous
[09:04] <defcon_> anyone here running preload, i want an opinion, does it do more harm then good?
[09:04] <SteveWrightNZ> Hawkins: make sure your computers hostname is in /etc/hosts
[09:04] <illriginal> There's no such thing as hyperthreading in my bios... i looked before i came in here to ask how can i enable it.
[09:04] <RoC_MM> defcon_, not necessary for feisty and later.  Are you pre-feisty?
[09:04] <Lapinux> anyone know of a movie player that will play h.264 files?
[09:04] <defcon_> feisty
[09:04] <illriginal> crimsun I believe my bios is older than my processor.
[09:04] <RoC_MM> defcon_, feisty uses some flag I can't remember the name of...gives the same results.
[09:05] <Hawkins> Tom47, also when I have terminal open over Xchat and somebody says something here, at that moment Xorg increases CPU usage from 4% to 12%. When nobody types new lines it's back to 4%
[09:05] <defcon_> RoC_MM, pm me if you think of it sometime
[09:05] <defcon_> right now im searching google
[09:05] <illriginal>  crimsun, there's no option for hyperthread in bios, does this mean i cannot enable it?
[09:05] <Rasitiln> strange huh n2diy
[09:06] <crimsun> illriginal: perhaps.
[09:06] <illriginal> ah ok
[09:06] <defcon_> what is the best site for ubuntu tweaks
[09:06] <crimsun> Sorry, I don't have enough resources ATM to follow up.
[09:06] <illriginal> crimsun, is there anything in that dmesg that looks bad and should be fixed?
[09:06] <kraut> !wiki | defcon_
[09:06] <ubotu> defcon_: http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[09:06] <defcon_> word kraut
[09:06] <Frogzoo> defcon_: google
[09:06] <defcon_> ya google is my best online friend
[09:06] <mca> hello.. I have search forum before I join here seeking solution to my little headache with my laptop.. well I'm trying to install ubuntu on my hp omnibook 6100, but shuts down on "loadin hardware drivers" I have done memtest for 4hr  no error found and check my cpu is not overheating eiter..
[09:07] <Hawkins> SteveWrightNZ, checked that and I have 127.0.0.1 localhost and my PCs name there too so it seems to be OK
[09:07] <n2diy> Rasitiln: No, the box on the left says Jeremy owns it, and can change permissions, the box on the right is all ghosted out, and is owned by root. You have permission problems.
[09:07] <Tom47> Hawkins as said its unlikely i can solve yr problem ... if it were me i would be checking ut if i had a disk partition getting close to100% full .... use System>Administration>System Monitor and check out the File Systems ab
[09:07] <muriu> Guys, im using ubuntu 7.04 but no wine package seems to be working for me. Any ideas?
[09:08] <silvernode> How come banshee does not detect my ipod but rythmbox does? (ubuntu 7.0.4)
[09:08] <Rasitiln> ya, but the box at the left is what root says
[09:08] <SteveWrightNZ> Hawkins: dont know sry
[09:08] <makuseru> hi, im trying t get the audio out of a file, so im using "mencoder -dumpaudio" but it says "-dumpaudio is not an MEncoder option" but it is an option, its in the manual
[09:08] <Rasitiln> and the box on the right is what my user account says
[09:08] <makuseru> what can i do
[09:08] <Rasitiln> so root says that I as a user own it
[09:08] <Rasitiln> and my user account says that root owns it
[09:08] <muriu> !wine
[09:08] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:09] <Skiff> whats a good flash install for firefox ?
[09:09] <brooksbp> !root
[09:09] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:09] <muriu> !feisty wine
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about feisty wine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Exactly, you the user, can't play with the file, but root can.
[09:09] <Rasitiln> but root says that I as a user can play with the file
[09:09] <brooksbp> !kdevelop
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <beford> Skiff, flash as in adobe flash plugin?
[09:09] <Skiff> yues
[09:09] <Hawkins> SteveWrightNZ, thank you for this. One possible thing that could be wrong checked. I'll continue my hunt
[09:09] <Skiff> yes
[09:09] <brooksbp> !linux
[09:09] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[09:09] <brooksbp> !xxx
[09:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xxx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:09] <beford> Skiff, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[09:09] <brooksbp> !apt
[09:09] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:10] <Skiff> beford, thanks
[09:10] <makuseru> !botabuse | brooksbp
[09:10] <ubotu> brooksbp: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[09:10] <Myrtti> brooksbp: do you have a question?
[09:10] <brooksbp> !django
[09:10] <ubotu> django is a high level python web framework that encourages rapid development and clean, pragmatic design. - see http://www.djangoproject.com
[09:10] <brooksbp> seein what's supported
[09:10] <Myrtti> you can use ubotu in pm
[09:11] <Hawkins> Tom47, I'm using 4% of HD space available and my swap usage is 0%. I thank you for letting me know that something indeed is wrong with my CPU usage levels. I know that I'm not paranoid on this matter :)
[09:11] <brooksbp> too scary
[09:11] <jbraddoc> In samba, how can I and a 2k machine to the domain -- how do I make my user a domain admin?
[09:11] <makuseru> hi, im trying t get the audio out of a file, so im using "mencoder -dumpaudio" but it says "-dumpaudio is not an MEncoder option" but it is an option, its in the manual, how can i get the audio off this since Mencoder wants to be gay?
[09:11] <Tacroy> Make sure you spelled it right?
[09:11] <crimsun> -dumpaudio (MPlayer only)   <-----------------------
[09:11] <crimsun> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[09:11] <crimsun> clearly it says MPlayer only
[09:12] <makuseru> ive used -dumpaudio with mecoder before
[09:12] <Tom47> Hawkins try framing your question in the cpu usage terms and impact on usability maybe that will help ... something is rotten in denmark as shakespeare said
[09:12] <mca> so.. I have search forum before I join here seeking solution to my little headache with my laptop.. well I'm trying to install ubuntu on my hp omnibook 6100, but shuts down on "loadin hardware drivers" I have done memtest for 4hr  no error found and check my cpu is not overheating either.
[09:12] <RoC_MM> defcon_, if it's boot-time you want to reduce, try this: http://plone.held-im-ruhestand.de/software/ubuntu-boot-time
[09:12] <crimsun> makuseru: I don't mean to sound rude, but that doesn't matter.  We're talking about mplayer as it exists -now-.
[09:13] <BrokenCrystal> mca
[09:13] <mca> yes?
[09:13] <BrokenCrystal> try using F6 boot options
[09:13] <mca> I have
[09:13] <mca> i use noapic and nolapic
[09:13] <nentis> Howdy Ubuntu folk,
[09:14] <nentis> I have my f1-f4 keys mapped to workspaces.  Under dapper I could right-click-hold a titlebar and hit the f-key to move it to that window.  This no longer works in feisty.
[09:14] <BrokenCrystal> noacpi nolcpi ?
[09:14] <BrokenCrystal> try those
[09:15] <BrokenCrystal> seperate
[09:15] <mca> hmm I could spell it wrong
[09:15] <n2diy> Rasitiln: What'z up, In ten minutes I turn into  pumpkin!
[09:15] <mca> let me try again
[09:15] <mca> brb
[09:15] <silvernode> how come bansee wont detect my ipod but rhythmbox will?
[09:15] <Hawkins> Tom47, one question if you have time for it. When having top in terminal open,  how much up does your Xorg CPU usage rise when switching for example from Xchat to Firefox. I mean by clicking other one open then again back to other. I get at this point 94% load on CPU which is quite horrific number for such a little task.
[09:16] <n2diy> Hawkins: it will settle down, normally.
[09:16] <Tom47> Hawkins is it a laptop?
[09:17] <Skiff> hey guys what would be a good codec pack to watch movies?
[09:17] <Lapinux> !sources
[09:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[09:17] <RoC_MM> Skiff, just install VLC...it can handle almost anything.
[09:17] <thedonvaughn> !restrictedformats | skiff
[09:17] <ubotu> skiff: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:17] <thedonvaughn> !dvd | skiff
[09:17] <Skiff> RoC_MM, gotcha
[09:17] <ubotu> skiff: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:18] <beford> Skiff, yea, sudo apt-get install vlc
[09:18] <Tom47> Hawkins have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2698674 where a similar problem was fixed using the 386 linux image vs the generic one you are prob using now
[09:18] <Lapinux> !easysource
[09:18] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:18] <thedonvaughn> I'm an mplayer fan myself, haven't messed with vlc much
[09:18] <BrokenCrystal> install the good, the bad, and the ugly codecs
[09:19] <n2diy> Rasitiln: Last call, then I'm pulling the plug.
[09:19] <Arghetlam> Okay, I've got a rather. . .interesting problem.
[09:20] <Boje> moin
[09:20] <onur> can anyone help ? After today's kernel header update, I can no longer boot into X. it says no NVIDIA module found !!!
[09:21] <Arghetlam> What I've got is a  6.10 LAMP server. A couple nights ago, the system died, but I managed to salvage the HDD, and the data's good. The problem I'm running into, though, is I've got a totally different hardware setup, and I'm wondering if I can somehow run the old installation on a totally different hardware setup.
[09:21] <BrokenCrystal> the ugly ones http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/11/24/how-to-install-multimedia-codecs-ubuntu-6061-610/
[09:21] <onur> .
[09:21] <Lapinux> anyone know if one can play h.264 files in xine, or if support can be added for it?
[09:21] <RAOF> onur: You don't have the linux-restricted-modules package installed.  Boot back into a previous kernel (pressing "esc" at startup if necessary) and install the "linux-generic" package
[09:21] <Hawkins> Tom47, no. This is traditional desktop-PC with following specs. AMD Athlon64 3800+ , 2 Gb 400Mhz RAM and ATI Radeon X850XT and I installed from 'Standard personal computer' version from here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[09:21] <Jester46> can i install windows to a 2nd harddrive (slave) and dual boot while keeping my linux intact or must i have both os on one drive
[09:22] <RoC_MM> I can play H264 files in VLC.
[09:22] <Arghetlam> Jester - Windows first, Linux second.
[09:22] <Arghetlam> Windows tends to not like to share the MBR with Linux.
[09:22] <Lapinux> i know vlc can, i like xine though
[09:22] <Jester46> Arghetlam: even if i use 2 drives
[09:22] <BrokenCrystal> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/11/24/how-to-install-multimedia-codecs-ubuntu-6061-610/
[09:22] <Arghetlam> Jester - As far as I know.
[09:22] <onur> RAOF: ok I'll try but even the previous kernel doesn't boot into X
[09:23] <RAOF> onur: Really?  That might be a different problem then.
[09:23] <Jester46> Arghetlam: ok how could i keep the / partition? i really dont want to reinstall
[09:23] <onur> RAOF: in deed I was using nvidia-glx-new. and after this thing happend I've uninstalled it and tried the binary nvidia driver within the new kernel. Could it be because of this
[09:23] <Arghetlam> Jester - Unfortunately, I'm not sure.
[09:23] <BrokenCrystal> sudo aptitude install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse libxine-extracodecs w32codecs
[09:23] <aMMuNix> what's an alternative to DAEMON tools?
[09:24] <idefixx> does anyone know a docx converter for linux? not one of these online things im looking for a tool, lib whatever.
[09:24] <Myrtti> !iso | aMMuNix
[09:24] <ubotu> aMMuNix: To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[09:24] <RAOF> onur: :(
[09:24] <RAOF> onur: The nvidia.com driver is nothing but trouble.
[09:24] <aMMuNix> Myrtti, no need for a program?
[09:24] <Montaro> I've had no issues with the driver from nvidia.com
[09:24] <Myrtti> aMMuNix: no
[09:24] <onur> RAOF: so shall I re-install nvidia-glx-new
[09:24] <RAOF> onur: In fact, the nvidia-glx-new package is the same driver as the (current stable) nvidia.com driver, just easier to install + upgrade.
[09:25] <aMMuNix> Myrtti, cool, thanks
[09:25] <Jester46> aMM sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso    /path/to/empty/directory
[09:25] <RAOF> onur: Uninstall the nvidia.com driver first.
[09:25] <onur> Montaro: this is  a nick for a Terran God in SC
[09:25] <aMMuNix> what if I wanna stop mounting the image?
[09:25] <Montaro> umount
[09:25] <aMMuNix> alrighty, thanks guys
[09:25] <RAOF> onur: The nvidia.com installer has an --uninstall command line switch, IIRC.
[09:25] <onur> RAOF: then shall I install nvidia-glx-new ?
[09:26] <BrokenCrystal> you should try the ubuntu version first
[09:26] <BrokenCrystal> then its upgradable
[09:26] <Tom47> might be worth trying the 386 version of the linux image all the same hawkins .... i have no other suggestions just now .... but if you ask for help in terms of the high cpu usage by Xorg both while at rest and when starting prohrams you may get more infrmed help
[09:26] <BrokenCrystal> nvidia-glx from the ubuntu repo
[09:26] <RAOF> onur: Yes.
[09:27] <Arghetlam> Hey, am I gonna run into problems running a 6.10 installation on a totally different hardware setup?
[09:27] <onur> RAOF: what was the linux component I was to install ?
[09:27] <kraut> moin
[09:27] <RAOF> onur: "linux-generic"
[09:27] <Lapinux> well it looks like xine will in fact play h.264 files
[09:27] <Lapinux> cool
[09:28] <Jester46> Arghetlam: if ido reinstall, does windows ask for partition size?
[09:28] <Hawkins> Tom47, I'm searching forums for similar problems and then I'll ask here with those keywords and if nobody has any ideas I'll try that 386 trick. Thank you for your effort
[09:28] <Arghetlam> Jester - It should.
[09:28] <Jester46> ok
[09:30] <hagabaka> when I or a package runs update-grub, it always writes root=/dev/hdd1 even though the correct root should be /dev/hda1. how could i fix that?
[09:30] <onur> how does linux-generic differ from a specific version of a generic ?
[09:30] <RAOF> onur: linux-generic always depends on the most recent linux-image & linux-restricted-modules
[09:30] <onur> RAOF: thanks I am on the way
[09:31] <Arghetlam> Hey, am I gonna run into problems running a 6.10 installation on a totally different hardware setup?
[09:31] <idefixx> hagabaka: in your menu.lst there is an entry 'kopt=root=...' change it to whatever is right.
[09:31] <defcon_> what is the best way to free up ram in ubuntu
[09:31] <hagabaka> oh
[09:31] <defcon_> any way to compress it like windows
[09:31] <idefixx> hagabaka: do NOT uncomment it.
[09:32] <hagabaka> hmm, i have kopt=root=UUID=... ro; and a kopt_2_6=root=/dev/hda1 ro
[09:32] <hagabaka> oh, it was originally kopt_2_6=root=/dev/hdd1 ro
[09:33] <hagabaka> so is it enough to only change kopt_2_6?
[09:33] <idefixx> hagabaka: it uses what ever come last.. both should work. providing its the correct value.
[09:33] <hagabaka> i see
[09:34] <illriginal> Hey guys, I just downloaded a driver named: RT73_Linux_STA_Drv1.0.4.0.tar.gz   How do I install it?
[09:34] <Arghetlam> Hey, am I gonna run into problems running a 6.10 installation on a totally different hardware setup?
[09:34] <RAOF> illriginal: Generally, you don't.
[09:34] <illriginal> so how can i uhm... use it so that my device is recognized?
[09:34] <RAOF> Arghetlam: No, probably not.  The only thing you might have problems with is if the drive orderings change.
[09:34] <hagabaka> how do i check which device has which uuid?
[09:34] <RAOF> illriginal: Well, generally Ubuntu should recognise it already.
[09:35] <idefixx> hagabaka: vol_id /dev/foo
[09:35] <internetrr> HEY I'm in #ubuntu using Ubuntu!
[09:35] <hagabaka> thanks
[09:35] <siimo> Hi anyone know if Feisty supports ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT
[09:35] <RAOF> illriginal: Are you sure your device isn't already recognised, and have an appropriate dirver loadeD?
[09:35] <illriginal> heh... it's not pickin up any wireless networks, not that I've seen... unless im doing something wrong RAOF
[09:35] <`davo>  in amarok, google maps, and other applications, whenever I mouse over certain areas, my cursor dissapears completely.
[09:35] <reverseblade> RAOF, you're the greatest  !!! it worked
[09:35] <`davo> any ideas?
[09:35] <RAOF> Well...
[09:35] <vanechen> hello all
[09:35] <RAOF> !wireless | illriginal
[09:35] <ubotu> illriginal: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:36] <RAOF> illriginal: Read that?
[09:36] <illriginal> heh.. yeah
[09:36] <Shaddox> Hello everyone. How can I make that old GNOME option to open a new login in a nested window of my current login?
[09:36] <reverseblade> RAOF, I am onur . Btw, there is one more thing why this thing  happened in the first case ? Why there is such a dependancy to linux-generic, and how my computer was working flawlessly prior to installing it
[09:37] <Arghetlam> RAOF - Okay, I'm trying to boot into my old installation, but it seems stuck on Checking File Systems.
[09:37] <illriginal> RAOF it's a USB Adapter
[09:38] <RAOF> reverseblade: When the kernel is upgraded, you need a new build of the nvidia module.  If you don't have the "linux-generic" package installed, you won't get the new version of the linux-restricted-modules-generic package, which contains the new nvidia module.
[09:38] <`davo> any ideas on that at all?
[09:38] <RAOF> illriginal: Hm.  I'm not sure, I've never dealt with USB wifi adapters.  I seem to recall rt73 devices working, though.
[09:38] <RAOF> Arghetlam: In what way "stuck"?
[09:39] <ompaul> Shaddox, suggest #gnome for that one
[09:39] <Arghetlam> RAOF - Well, it's not frozen, but I just get the flashing cursor, and it ain't doing anything from there.
[09:39] <illriginal> yeah that's exactly what it is... rt73 the chipset... RAOF is there a way to check if it's properly being read or it knows there's a device that uses RT73?
[09:39] <RAOF> Arghetlam: Maybe it's checking the filesystems, and taking some time?
[09:39] <Arghetlam> RAOF - I'll wait some more and see what happens.
[09:40] <RAOF> illriginal: Well, you can run "iwconfig", which should list all the network devices, and say "no wireless extensions" for the wired ones and have some details for the wireless ones :)
[09:40] <reverseblade> RAOF, shouldn't ubuntu people put a dependency for these packages so that it won't ever happen to someone else ?
[09:40] <Tom47> Hawkins if you are about it seems with some hardware the 686 kernel works better as lso
[09:40] <Tom47> *aso
[09:40] <Tom47> also
[09:41] <aMMuNix> how do I leave a man ?
[09:41] <Hawkins> Tom47, I just found the same problem on forums http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236083&highlight=high+idle+cpu+usage
[09:41] <RAOF> reverseblade: Generally it does.
[09:41] <aMMuNix> (in a terminal)
[09:41] <Myrtti> aMMuNix: q
[09:41] <aMMuNix> thanks
[09:41] <n2diy> aMMuNix: ctrl-z
[09:41] <bjayeblue> press 'q' key
[09:41] <illriginal> RAOF: illriginal@illriginal:~$ iwconfig
[09:41] <illriginal> lo        no wireless extensions.
[09:41] <illriginal> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[09:41] <illriginal> eth1      no wireless extensions.
[09:41] <Myrtti> aMMuNix: took me two years to find out that myself
[09:41] <aMMuNix> lol
[09:41] <Myrtti> illriginal: next time use pastebin
[09:42] <RAOF> Tom47: The 686 kernel is old.  Old, old.  That'd be from Dapper 6.06 times, yes?
[09:42] <Hawkins> Tom47, also in another thread it was believed that it's mostly due graphic drivers now working which is precisely what I've experienced
[09:42] <Tom47> RAOF its ossible yes just looking round forums
[09:42] <aMMuNix> if I wanna mount a .BIN, and I have a .CUE file with him, which one do I mount?
[09:42] <reverseblade> RAOF, the thing is beryl is not working now ?
[09:42] <RAOF> illriginal: Right, so your card is *not* being detected.
[09:42] <illriginal> yeah the USB adapter.. .heh
[09:43] <illriginal> that wifi troubleshooting page... doesn't have much on usb adapters
[09:43] <Tom47> RAOF yes you are right
[09:43] <illriginal> so im kinda stuck basically.
[09:43] <RAOF> reverseblade: Try #ubuntu-effects.  Also, beryl should still work.
[09:43] <RAOF> illriginal: Well, where did you download that tarball?  They should have install instructions there.
[09:43] <dudubs> what the channel of free-speaks on ubuntu?
[09:43] <reverseblade> RAOF, when  do , glxinfo, it says : Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[09:44] <Tom47> dudubs #ubuntuofftopic
[09:44] <aMMuNix>  #ubuntu-offtopic I think
[09:44] <reverseblade> dudubs, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:44] <dudubs> thanks
[09:44] <RAOF> reverseblade: Ah, so the driver isn't properly installed :(
[09:44] <siimo> reverseblade: you have no 3D man
[09:44] <aMMuNix> if I wanna mount a .BIN, and I have a .CUE file with him, which one do I mount?
[09:44] <reverseblade> RAOF, so what to do ?
[09:44] <sutabi> Anyone have idea on why update-manager would give me this? http://dpaste.com/11219
[09:44] <RAOF> reverseblade: First option: run "sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24"
[09:44] <illriginal> RAOF: http://www.ralinktech.com/ralink/Home/Support/Linux.html
[09:44] <Hawkins> Tom47, Minimize a window and I'll see black rectangles appearing for maybe a bit over one second. My friend with laptop had them moving so fast you could barely notice them.
[09:44] <illriginal> No installation guide
[09:46] <reverseblade> RAOF, no joy. That line already exist. Xorg.conf file is identical to the times when beryl is working
[09:46] <illriginal> RAOF this is how to compile it: http://www.pastebin.ca/518254
[09:46] <Tom47> Hawkins have to leave you with it ... hope someone can help you diagnose and fix it ..... you should be able to get it working better i beleive and with what you have in hardware terms it should be very snappy
[09:46] <wangchun> hi all, how can i get a list of X11 driver names available for my system?
[09:46] <vlt> Hello. What is the best in Ubuntu available (command line) tool to place an image (jpeg/png/tiff) at a certain position at a certain size on an empty "page" (A4) and create a pdf file? Should I use LaTeX? Is there an Imagemagick option that a do this? Or simply a gs command? Any idea?
[09:46] <wangchun> is there a X11 "null device"? which only for create a null screen, but not display anything on a real monitor?
[09:46] <Arghetlam> RAOF -Still checking file systems.  .
[09:46] <wangchun> i just wanna make a triple monitor X11 conf on a dual monitor system.
[09:47] <TheoMurpse> I ran a ./configure.sh script so I can make and install a 3rd party wireless util, and I got instruction to upgrade to at least GTK 2.6.0. How do I do this? I can't find GTK in the GUIfied upgrade utils with *buntu, nor does sudo apt-get install gtk, or libgtk2, or libgtk-dev work. All fail to give me a way of upgrading to at least 2.6.0.
[09:47] <RAOF> illriginal: Searching ubuntuforums gives: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236&highlight=rt73
[09:47] <Hawkins> Tom47, I think it's fixable when somebody figures out what is causing it :)
[09:47] <aMMuNix> I'm trying to mount a file and it sais it can't find him in the /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab, what does that mean?
[09:47] <illriginal> sweet! thanks RAOF, brb!
[09:48] <RAOF> TheoMurpse: You already have gtk > 2.6.  You probably want libgtk2.0-dev to build stuff, though.  Searching in synaptic for "libgtk" would have told you that faster :)
[09:48] <RAOF> Arghetlam: Hm, that seems a little bit too long :)
[09:48] <dudubs> where i can found dictionary of english-hebrew-english ?
[09:48] <Arghetlam> RAOF - The thought had occured.
[09:48] <TheoMurpse> RAOF: thank you. However, I don't know what package to have specifically searched for.
[09:48] <RAOF> Arghetlam: Maybe restart, and start witouth the quiet + splash boot options
[09:49] <vlt> aMMuNix: Did you specify a target mount point?
[09:49] <aMMuNix> no
[09:49] <dudubs> where i can found dictionary of english-hebrew-english ?
[09:49] <RAOF> TheoMurpse: You could have searched for 'gtk' (which would have given a lot of options), but since you're after the gtk library "libgtk" seems like a good search term :)
[09:49] <aMMuNix> wanna mount a BIN file
[09:49] <jscinoz> How does one change the levles at which their laptop fan automatically turns on and off
[09:49] <reverseblade> RAOF, any other ideas for my 3 D ?
[09:50] <BrokenCrystal> dudubs  gnomesword?
[09:50] <vlt> aMMuNix: That's the problem. If you don't specify a target it looks into fstab ...
[09:50] <`davo>  in amarok, google maps, and other applications, whenever I mouse over certain areas, my cursor dissapears completely.
[09:50] <`davo> anyone?
[09:50] <RAOF> !loopback > aMMuNix <--- Check the pm from ubotu
[09:50] <dudubs> i try thanks
[09:50] <aMMuNix> k
[09:50] <RAOF> reverseblade: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[09:50] <BrokenCrystal> np
[09:51] <dudubs> have applet for gnome as search-bar to speed search in google ?
[09:51] <jscinoz> dudubs try deskbar
[09:51] <reverseblade> RAOF, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23048/
[09:52] <RAOF> And try deskbar anyway.  It should be in the panel by default!
[09:52] <dudubs> thanks!
[09:52] <aMMuNix> now when trying to mount with the path, it sais I must specify a filesystem
[09:52] <RAOF> reverseblade: Um, that was /etc/X11/xorg.conf, not /var/log/Xorg.0.log :)
[09:52] <reverseblade> RAOF, right sorry, on my way
[09:52] <dontcho> aMMuNix -t iso9660
[09:53] <aMMuNix> but it's a bin file :P
[09:53] <jscinoz> !loopback > jscinoz
[09:53] <dontcho> aMMuNix bin like image ?
[09:53] <aMMuNix> yes
[09:53] <RAOF> aMMuNix: Did you check out the links in the private message from ubotu?
[09:53] <reverseblade> RAOF, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23049/
[09:53] <RAOF> aMMuNix: That should tell you all you need to know :)
[09:53] <aMMuNix> why should I convert it then?
[09:53] <vlt> aMMuNix: What fs does the image contain?
[09:53] <aMMuNix> why, should. .. *
[09:54] <battlesquid> where is the contents of $PATH loaded from? i mean how do i add an entry to $PATH without exporting ?
[09:54] <dontcho> aMMuNix sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to source /mount/point
[09:54] <aMMuNix> erm, it's a game CD, I don't know
[09:54] <dudubs> in taskbar have only yhaoo search
[09:54] <reverseblade> RAOF, I think this part fails : Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X
[09:54] <Arghetlam> RAOF - Now it appears to be hanging at "*Running local boot scripst (etc/rc.local)"
[09:54] <battlesquid> i want to add "." to $PATH
[09:54] <RAOF> Arghetlam: Hm... um...
[09:54] <vlt> aMMuNix: Is it an hd image? Then you have to specify the offset for the partition you want to mount.
[09:54] <RAOF> battlesquid: Then do so?  export PATH=$PATH:. ?
[09:55] <sutabi> Anyone have idea on why update-manager would give me this? http://dpaste.com/11219
[09:55] <battlesquid> RAOF, i want it to be permanent, and i dont want to add a line in bashrc
[09:55] <RAOF> reverseblade: Yes, or more specifically: "dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv001462gl".  I've seen this before, but I can't for the life of me remember how to fix it.
[09:55] <RAOF> battlesquid: WHy don't you want a line in bashrc?
[09:56] <RAOF> battlesquid: Which would otherwise be the place to add it?
[09:56] <battlesquid> RAOF, i just don't feel like adding a export line for every new entry to PATH
[09:56] <illriginal> RAOF: I'm using this instruction: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236&highlight=rt73
[09:56] <reverseblade> RAOF, I will google it
[09:56] <reverseblade> RAOF, thanks
[09:56] <illriginal> and for some reason I cannot copy the tar into the directory
[09:56] <battlesquid> RAOF, Ubuntu must be storing my initial PATH somewhere
[09:56] <RAOF> battlesquid: How many things do you think you'll be adding to your PATH?
[09:57] <aldin_> how to find out is my ISP blocking port 25
[09:57] <illriginal> RAOF, this is the command i type: sudo cp /path/to/rt73-cvs-daily.tar.gz /usr/src
[09:57] <battlesquid> RAOF, i want to know where Ubuntu stores the initial PATH contents
[09:57] <RAOF> battlesquid: Yes, you'll find it in /etc/environment.  But that's really a system-wide thing, and you probably want to make this a user-local change.
[09:57] <battlesquid> RAOF, onpe
[09:57] <RAOF> illriginal: Well, are you replacing "/path/to" with the *actual* path to the tarball?
[09:58] <battlesquid> RAOF, i want to do it for all users. thanks
[09:58] <illriginal> lol brb
[09:58] <Arghetlam> RAOF - Whoa, it's moving on. . .
[09:58] <aMMuNix> vlt , it's an image of a CD, I just want to mount it so I can install whatever inside the CD :P
[09:58] <RAOF> battlesquid: That's going to freak some users out.
[09:58] <battlesquid> RAOF, well there's just me and my gf, so i guess it's going to be fine :D
[09:58] <battlesquid> oh well and my dad
[09:59] <RAOF> aMMuNix: Why aren't you just converting it to an iso, like the link says?
[09:59] <battlesquid> but he really doesn't execute anything
[09:59] <nix> aMMuNix: try mount <imagefile.bin> /mnt/ -t iso9660
[09:59] <aMMuNix> tried that nix, and RAOF, isn't there a way to just mount a .BIN file? without converting?
[09:59] <RAOF> aMMuNix: No, there isn't.
[09:59] <aMMuNix> alright
[09:59] <aMMuNix> I'll convert then
[10:00] <nix> aMMuNix: we tried it alright
[10:00] <Mekhor> Bonjour
[10:00] <vlt> [09:54]  <dontcho> aMMuNix sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /path/to/source /mount/point
[10:00] <vlt> aMMuNix: ^^ That's it
[10:00] <aMMuNix> doesn't work
[10:00] <nix> aMMuNix: oh yeah.. u sure you added -o loop in there?
[10:00] <aMMuNix> yes I did :P
[10:00] <RedGhost> So after a reboot one day Alsa was gone from available sound devices (magically) an only OSS was available, how do I get it back?
[10:00] <vlt> aMMuNix: What's the error msg?
[10:01] <aMMuNix> it sais "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0 missing codepage or other error"
[10:01] <illriginal> RAOF: Am I doin everything correct so far?: http://www.pastebin.ca/518274
[10:01] <nix> aMMuNix: what does file <image.bin> say?
[10:01] <vlt> aMMuNix: Then it' no proper iso image.
[10:01] <vlt> it's*
[10:01] <dontcho> aMMuNix man do you have not only bin but and cue file there ?
[10:01] <aMMuNix> yes I have a cue file
[10:02] <RAOF> vlt: Yes, we know.  It's a cue/bin combination, which *isn't an iso*.  He needs to convert it to an iso first!
[10:02] <aMMuNix> I'll convert
[10:02] <dontcho> :"P))) it's image make with  cloneCD program so no way... you need to convert
[10:02] <Tacroy> Ehh... not really.
[10:02] <RAOF> illriginal: Looks good, but you probably want to upgrade your kernel before going any further.
[10:02] <illriginal> I'm on step 5 right now RAOF, which is type this command: cd /usr/src/rt73-cvs-yyyymmddhh/Module
[10:02] <illriginal> sudo make
[10:02] <Tacroy> .bin files are just raw cd data.
[10:02] <illriginal> upgrade my kernel?
[10:03] <CroX> o
[10:03] <Arghetlam> RAOF - Okay, now I'm hanging at "Restarting system log", right after "Restarting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd", "Reloading /etc/samba/smb.conf"
[10:03] <Arghetlam> . . .And it's restarting it again.
[10:03] <Tacroy> All the .cue file is for is to tell the burner where to start burning, IIRC>
[10:03] <reverseblade> RAOF, when  do sudo modprobe nvidia, I got the following : FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/volatile/nvidia.ko': No such file or directory
[10:03] <RAOF> illriginal: You'll notice that you've got some "held back" packages.
[10:03] <dontcho> Tacroy right
[10:03] <RAOF> reverseblade: That's odd.  Because Xorg is loading that just fine.
[10:03] <RAOF> reverseblade: Oh, it might be nvidia-new.ko?
[10:04] <reverseblade> RAOF, dunno
[10:04] <illriginal> ah crap but I have Ubuntu Feisty
[10:04] <RAOF> illriginal: If you run "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade && sudo aptitude install linux-headers-generic" it should install the new kernel + kernel headers.  Then go ahead.
[10:04] <dqdev> hello all. I have the following issue: When I initially install UBUNTU 7.04 AMD64 the multiple desktops work fine. Then an update comes and whenever I try to change desktops I lose the horizontal bars (up and down). Do you know the problem? More preferably, the solution???
[10:05] <Arghetlam> RAOF - Okay, I managed to log in. . .but I have a feeling nothing's working. Because I can't get to my website.
[10:05] <RAOF> Arghetlam: It's just been extremely slow booting up?
[10:05] <Gandalf84> hi
[10:05] <illriginal> RAOF there is a new update, but I'm scared to update right now... i heard the newest update has been really buggy today
[10:05] <Gandalf84> how can i terminate gnome execution...so can i have only the shell?
[10:05] <Gandalf84> i try with /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:05] <Gandalf84> but then i see only black screen...
[10:05] <Arghetlam> RAOF - After restarting the system log, I got to Schala login: and I logged in correctly. . .
[10:05] <Gandalf84> and i must push restart botton from chassis
[10:05] <Arghetlam> But I don't think anything's working.
[10:06] <RAOF> illriginal: Well, you can always just boot into an old kernel.
[10:06] <otman> lool
[10:06] <illriginal> RAOF: 2.6.20.16.28 is the newest
[10:06] <illriginal> ah try
[10:06] <illriginal> true*
[10:06] <Arghetlam> RAOF - Especially after trying to ping the gateway and all I got was "Connect: Network is unreachable"
[10:06] <illriginal> alright ill update (knowin that the video card wont work :x
[10:06] <RedGhost> So after a reboot one day Alsa was gone from available sound devices (magically) an only OSS was available, how do I get it back? alsa-base is installed, it just removed itself from available sound devices :S
[10:06] <RAOF> Arghetlam: That might be your problem?
[10:06] <RAOF> illriginal: Why won't your video card work?
[10:06] <dqdev> hello all. I have the following issue: When I initially install UBUNTU 7.04 AMD64 the multiple desktops work fine. Then an update comes and whenever I try to change desktops I lose the horizontal bars (up and down). Do you know the problem? More preferably, the solution???
[10:07] <illriginal> i dunno last time i tried to update from edgy to feisty, and my video card didn't work lol
[10:07] <RAOF> Arghetlam: I mean, the network thing.  Maybe everything is waiting for the network to time out.
[10:07] <illriginal> i had to install feisty via cd
[10:07] <otman> join/ #ubuntu sa
[10:07] <RAOF> illriginal: Well, you seem to have linux-generic installed, so you should be fine :)
[10:07] <illriginal> yeah :D
[10:07] <illriginal> i could always take off the new update from my grub list
[10:08] <Hawkins> Anybody here who could help me with insane Xorg CPU usage which is also described by another user here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236083&highlight=high+idle+cpu+usage
[10:08] <illriginal> brb RAOF, gettin a drink... thanks for your help
[10:08] <otman> how i update the last nvidia driver
[10:08] <Arghetlam> RAOF - As I said, this is a totally different hardware setup from what I was running before - Different mobo, processor. . .everything.
[10:08] <juan4x> Alguien en espaol
[10:08] <RAOF> !es | juan4x
[10:08] <Tacroy> !es
[10:08] <ubotu> juan4x: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[10:08] <Myrtti> !es | juan4x
[10:08] <Tacroy> Heheh, don't everyone jump on him at once.
[10:09] <RAOF> Too slow, people!
[10:09] <Tacroy> Hey, on my screen I got it first!
[10:09] <Tacroy> It's not my fault the network disagrees with me.
[10:09] <cafuego> Tacroy: My screen agrees with you.
[10:09] <Tacroy> *sniffle*
[10:09] <Tacroy> I guess ubotu just plays favorites.
[10:10] <RAOF> Arghetlam: Hm.  Ubuntu *shouldn't* care about hardware configuration, generally.
[10:11] <Arghetlam> RAOF - well, I think the big problem is that in the old system, I had the network card in the fourth PCI slot. This mobo only has three.
[10:11] <Arghetlam> RAOF - I DO have an onboard, but I'm not sure how to enable/go to using that port.
[10:11] <Arghetlam> And I CAN ping 127.0.0.1, so I know that networking's working.
[10:12] <RAOF> Arghetlam: That *really* shouldn't matter, since only the kernel cares about it.  Everything higher up should just use eth0, or whatever.
[10:12] <cafuego> Arghetlam: The kernel includes drivers for all hardware, provided it's supported by Linux. You can transplant bewteen cpu/mobo/whatever with no problems usually.
[10:12] <cafuego> Arghetlam: Only issue you may encounter is if the hardware is too new and not yet supported.
[10:13] <Arghetlam> RAOF, cafuego - Gotcha. However, I can't ping out to the gateway, which would constitute a problem.
[10:13] <cafuego> Arghetlam: does 'dmesg | grep eth0' list your network controller?
[10:14] <rolan1> hi
[10:14] <rolan1> i had a torrent downloading, then i shutdown my pc
[10:14] <rolan1> how do i resume
[10:14] <rolan1> with gnome bittorent
[10:14] <rolan1> or is it loost
[10:14] <cafuego> open the .torrent again and it should continue
[10:14] <rolan1> oops
[10:15] <rolan1> i dont have the file
[10:15] <jxxxt> you must have
[10:15] <aMMuNi1> how can I unmount? 'unmount' won't be recognised
[10:15] <Arghetlam> cafuego - Yeah, I get some information - "e100: eth0: e100_probe: addr 0xff8ff000, irq 209, MAC addr 00:0C:F1:F1:C!:A1"
[10:15] <jxxxt> umount maybe
[10:15] <cafuego> e100s are afaik fully supported - did it get an IP via dhcp?
[10:16] <cafuego> hold on
[10:16] <aMMuNi1> lol thanks jxxxt
[10:16] <cafuego> '00:0C:F1:F1:C!:A1' ?
[10:16] <Arghetlam> Yeah
[10:16] <noobsauce> ie7 just crashed again
[10:16] <noobsauce> lol
[10:16] <cafuego> With an exclamation mark? Really?
[10:16] <jxxxt> aMMuNil; np :-)
[10:16] <Arghetlam> Err. . .no exclamation point. My bad.
[10:16] <ompaul>  Arghetlam :    ! is not valid for  for a mac address
[10:16] <illriginal> Ok FAOR, update went smoothly
[10:16] <Tacroy> It would be kinda cool if it were though.
[10:17] <aMMuNi1> how can I create a new folder in /mnt/?
[10:17] <Arghetlam> SOrry, that ! is a 1.
[10:17] <cafuego> Arghetlam: It's also listed in 'ifconfig' ?
[10:17] <Tacroy> It could signify that this is a really exciting MAC.
[10:17] <illriginal> FAOR now I need to run this command: cd /usr/src/rt73-cvs-yyyymmddhh/Module
[10:17] <illriginal> sudo make
[10:17] <|Serg_|> HI all, every body in Russia?
[10:17] <dontcho> aMMuNi1 mkdir /mnt/your_new_folder
[10:17] <ompaul> !ru
[10:17] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[10:17] <aMMuNi1> why can't I do think from the UI?
[10:17] <|Serg_|> !ru
[10:17] <cafuego> No, not everybody is in russia :-)
[10:17] <Arghetlam> cafuego - I'm not seeing an IP in there.
[10:17] <illriginal> FAOR where it reads yyyymmddhh do I need to edit that?
[10:18] <|Serg_|> sorry
[10:18] <cafuego> Arghetlam: That's fine. Just run dhcp. 'sudo dhclient eth0'
[10:18] <ryanbot> morning
[10:18] <RAOF> illriginal: (The name is RAOF :)).  Yes, you should probably just go "cd rt73<tab>"
[10:19] <RAOF> illriginal: And you *don't* need to run make as root, so don't.
[10:19] <illriginal> lol sorry it's 4:20 am
[10:19] <RAOF> illriginal: Just run "make", not "sudo make"
[10:19] <illriginal> ok
[10:19] <RAOF> illriginal: That's cool, you just got a delayed reply because FOAR isn't highlighted for me :)
[10:20] <illriginal> yeah lol
[10:20] <Arghetlam> cafuego -  I'm assuming "SIOCSIFADDR: No such device" would constitute a problem?
[10:20] <illriginal> ok im gonna type this: cd /usr/src/rt73-cvs-2007052902/Module
[10:20] <|Serg_|> I need help :) What command for the beginning of direct talk, passing a channel?
[10:21] <camilo> 456465
[10:21] <RAOF> illriginal: Looks about right.
[10:21] <cafuego> Arghetlam: That would be less than ideal, yes
[10:21] <camilo> 4545
[10:21] <illriginal> ok gonna show you a pastebin in a minute
[10:22] <boghog> hi I need to change the harddriver number in my grub configuration, but I don't know where the grub.conf was stored when I installed Ubuntu, does anyone know?
[10:22] <boghog> harddrive*
[10:22] <Arghetlam> cafuego - However, I did the same thing, but with eth1, and now I can ping out to the gateway.
[10:22] <illriginal> RAOF: http://www.pastebin.ca/518308
[10:22] <boghog> it's trying to boot from (hd2,1) while it should be (hd0,1) so I have to change just that line eveyrtime I boot
[10:22] <_MrSeb_> hi, someone know if is possible to force hylafax to start for receiving manually incoming fax?
[10:22] <RAOF> Arghetlam: So your device ordering has just been changed?
[10:23] <Arghetlam> RAOF - it looks like. At this point, I just need to remember how to start apache, and I should be good.
[10:23] <Arghetlam> Emphasis on should.
[10:23] <RAOF> Arghetlam: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart :)
[10:23] <RAOF> illriginal: Looks OK.  give it a whirl!
[10:24] <illriginal> ok
[10:24] <Rictoo|SLP> On average, how much slower is SWAP than RAM?
[10:24] <Arghetlam> RAOF - looks good; but I'm not sure if "could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName" is good or not.
[10:24] <RAOF> Rictoo|SLP: About 1000 times slower
[10:25] <Rictoo|SLP> O.O
[10:25] <RAOF> Arghetlam: No, that's expected, generally
[10:25] <Rictoo|SLP> So the only resaon it exists is so that apps than need more than your amount of RAM will still actually function?
[10:25] <Arghetlam> RAOF - Okay, great.
[10:25] <reverseblade> RAOF, I've fixed it by re-installing the binary driver of nvidia
[10:26] <hagisbasheruk> when i enable destop effects i lose my borders,mabey i have changed a setting somewhere,how can i restore windo borders please
[10:26] <inflex> anyone wanna suggest a game for Ubuntu that can run on my open-source ATI drivers... things like Heroes III, or such (I already have Heroes III)
[10:26] <RAOF> Rictoo|SLP: Yes, although "function" is perhaps too strong a word :).  What swap is *actually* good for is to page out parts of RAM that aren't being used
[10:27] <inflex> anything I can apt-get ?
[10:27] <Arghetlam> RAOF - Umm. . .something of a problem. . .I can't seem to get to my website. At all.
[10:27] <Arghetlam> RAOF - I can ping out, but I can't ping in.
[10:27] <illriginal> RAOF: illriginal@illriginal:/usr/src/rt73-cvs-2007052902/Module$ sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[10:27] <illriginal> wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[10:27] <RAOF> illriginal: Try running iwconfig
[10:27] <Sputnike> Hey all, having a bit of an issue with my webcam. Webcam is fine, ubuntu recognised it immidiately, however I cant seem to find where to set the brightness and contrast
[10:27] <Sputnike> anyone know where?
[10:28] <RAOF> Arghetlam: Are you behind a router?  Is the router port-forwarding properly?
[10:28] <bz0b> hey does rhythm box have full ipod support?
[10:28] <illriginal> RAOF: http://www.pastebin.ca/518316
[10:28] <Arghetlam> RAOF - just checked the settings and everything looks fine; I had it set up and working beautifully before I had to swap it out.
[10:29] <RAOF> illriginal: Have you done the requisite "sudo modprobe rt73"?
[10:29] <Sputnike> is there a Webcam Settings app for Ubuntu or something? Or a control panel even?
[10:29] <illriginal> yep
[10:30] <RAOF> illriginal: :(.  I'm pretty much out, sory.
[10:30] <dontcho> Sputnike there is camorama program
[10:30] <illriginal> ah crap...
[10:30] <illriginal> alright
[10:31] <Sputnike> dontcho: where can I find this? Sorry to be a pain
[10:31] <dontcho> Sputnike application->add/remove   and just type camorama    then install it
[10:31] <Sputnike> ty
[10:32] <what_if> Is the "unattended-upgrades" script something that I should add as a cron job on a server? Is this safe / smart ?
[10:32] <Paul_UK> hey all, do i need LAMP for Ubuntu server to use LTSP?
[10:32] <awk> what is LTSP ?
[10:33] <Myrtti> !ltsp
[10:33] <ubotu> LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, which adds thin-client support to Linux servers. See chapter 3 of the !edubuntuhandbook, http://www.ltsp.org and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Terminal_Server_Project
[10:33] <awk> Paul_UK: no you dont
[10:33] <awk> if you have some web based configuration application that needs to be run locally, then yes.
[10:33] <illriginal> ah damn im never getin this wireless connection up and running
[10:33] <what_if> Paul_UK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
[10:34] <Paul_UK> awk: ok.  so i've done a fresh install of server, only the core options are selected.  When the server reboots after installation, it only goes to up Running local boot scripts /etc/rc.local and seems to hang :(
[10:34] <ArghetlamtheSeco> Okay, real quick - how does one kill a ghost?
[10:34] <ArghetlamtheSeco> Err, nevermind
[10:34] <awk> Paul_UK: well it seems that you have something in rc.local that it doesn't like, ctrl c and try login
[10:34] <awk> otherwise login from a remote machine, or else alt + f2 and use another terminal and log in
[10:35] <Paul_UK> what kernel is ubuntu server 2.4 or 2.6 ?
[10:36] <Ubu606> i want to install ubuntu but the  ubuntu 6.06 CD runs VERY VERY slow .. What can i do ?
[10:37] <dontcho> Ubu606 becouse of RAM ? :) try to install from alternative CD not from live CD
[10:37] <Paul_UK> hmm, is anyone running Ubuntu Server under vmware?  Seems if I select Ubuntu as the vm-instance, hangs.  If I use Linux 2.6.x kernel instance, I get a logon!
[10:37] <Flannel> Ubu606: slow is ok.  It'll run faster once you install.
[10:38] <bz0b> how do i install a .run file?
[10:38] <bz0b> or how would i load it
[10:38] <Ubu606> But i cant install it because it runs VERY VERY slow. the first(language) screen takes 1 hour to load !!
[10:39] <dontcho> bz0b chmod +x file.run   then  ./file.run
[10:39] <CarinArr> bz0b: you'd just set it to +x (executable) and then run it using ./filename.run
[10:39] <CarinArr> snap
[10:39] <Flannel> Ubu606: you should try the alternate CD insteadof the DEsktop one
[10:39] <bz0b> thanks
[10:39] <Ubu606> Flannel: I dont know much about Ubuntu .. What alternate CD ?
[10:40] <bz0b> if it is installing, e.g. ati drivers would i sudo run it?
[10:40] <Memories> Hello everyone
[10:40] <Flannel> Ubu606: releases.ubuntu.com find the alternate CD, it's an installer only, instead of a liveCD+installer.  Much quicker/leaner
[10:40] <Memories> i'm facing problems with Amsn , whenever i choose my email to login with
[10:40] <Ubu606> ok i'll try ! Thanks
[10:40] <ArghetlamtheSeco> RAOF - With your help, marathonmen.org is back up and is running at full capacity.
[10:40] <Memories> it gives me an error : this account is being used by another amsn session plz chosoe another one
[10:41] <bz0b> what does this mean? Detected version of X does not have a matching 'x720' directory
[10:41] <bz0b> You may override the detected version using the following syntax:
[10:41] <bz0b>      X_VERSION=<xdir> ./ati-driver-installer-<ver>-<arch>.run [--install] 
[10:41] <Flannel> Ubu606: make sure to check the md5 of the iso, and burn at 4x
[10:41] <Memories> how can i delete all accounts and start over! or how could i fix this
[10:41] <Ubu606> Flannel: OK!
[10:41] <ArghetlamtheSeco> Many thanks to you and to the other guy who was helping me who's name escapes me!
[10:41] <gtroy> hey guys
[10:44] <Memories> anyway into Amsn to help out ?
[10:44] <bz0b> 'cause even when i run it with --install it still doesnt work
[10:44] <gtroy> ask me any questions, I'll try to help
[10:44] <Memories> gtroy , do you know anything about Amsn ?!
[10:44] <dontcho> gtroy how can i run CorelDraw 12 on ubuntu ? :)
[10:44] <bz0b>  what is the x720 directory in ubuntu
[10:44] <gtroy> amsn, no
[10:44] <BrokenCrystal> try wine, or use vmware
[10:44] <gtroy> dontcho, have you tried wine?
[10:44] <ub12> I am having trouble with dependency and "apt-get install -f" is not fixing them
[10:44] <gtroy> or the how to's there
[10:44] <Memories> Brokencrystal , you always managed to help me out!
[10:44] <dontcho> gtroy yes i do
[10:44] <BrokenCrystal> ty
[10:44] <Memories> brokencrystal , have any idea how can i delete an account on amsn!
[10:44] <guigz2000> hello,I have problems with CD ejection/ingestion with my imac G4 and feisty install
[10:44] <gtroy> I'm not very good with wine
[10:44] <BrokenCrystal> delete just one or all accounts
[10:44] <BrokenCrystal> ?
[10:44] <Memories> brokencrystal i wanna delete everything
[10:44] <Memories> brokencrystal its so annoying i cant login anymore!
[10:44] <ompaul> !wine
[10:44] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:44] <Memories> brokencrystial it keeps telling me account being used by another Amsn session!
[10:44] <BrokenCrystal> go to your home folder, show hidden files, delete .amsn folder and all contents
[10:44] <guigz2000> when I insert a CD,sometimes it's ejected 5 seconds after and reinserted.
[10:44] <Memories> brokencrystal ok just a sec ill give it a try
[10:44] <Ubu606> I cant download the alternate CD cause I'm on dial-up. Is it available on Free(ship-it) CD ?
[10:44] <BrokenCrystal> maybe someone is logging on as you somewhere else
[10:44] <BrokenCrystal> ?
[10:45] <Memories> brokencrystal thts wht i thought, i tried my other email (empty) no one knows it.. and same prob occurs
[10:45] <BrokenCrystal> make sure amsn is closed all the way out before you delete
[10:45] <BrokenCrystal> then restart it when you are done
[10:46] <outcastcafe> i just installed ubuntu i need help with the DVD player, it cant find the plugins
[10:46] <ub12> The packages I having trouble with came up on the updatemanger today linux-restricted-modules-2.6*****
[10:47] <gtroy> dang, quiet night
[10:47] <dontcho> night ?
[10:47] <ub12> Is anyone else having trouble with the latest updates from the update manager?
[10:47] <outcastcafe> ?
[10:47] <jxxxt> outcastcafe: I think they are at mencode
[10:47] <Ubu606> I cant download the alternate CD cause I'm on dial-up. Is it available on Free(ship-it) CD ?
[10:47] <outcastcafe> i need some help with my DVD player
[10:48] <BrokenCrystal> sudo aptitude install libdvdcss2 libdvdread3
[10:48] <outcastcafe> ok
[10:48] <jxxxt> outcastcafe: hang on I will look for the link
[10:48] <boghog> do I always have to run grub-update after modifying /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[10:48] <outcastcafe> thank you jxxxt
[10:48] <boghog> i.e. is that what writes the changes to the bootsector of my disk?
[10:48] <adaptr> boghog it can't do any harm, but you don't *have* to, no
[10:49] <adaptr> no, update-grub does not modify any bootsectors
[10:49] <boghog> oh
[10:49] <boghog> menu.lst is directly read from disk when grub loads?
[10:49] <adaptr> it reads the menu.lst for changes you made and writes them back to the file
[10:49] <adaptr> yes
[10:49] <Memories> brokencrystal , thank you (Y) as i said, u always manage to help me out
[10:49] <Memories> brokencrystal , once again thanks :)
[10:49] <boghog> ah, ok that explains a few things, thnaks
[10:49] <BrokenCrystal> np, always glad to help
[10:49] <Ubu> I cant download the alternate CD because I'm on dial-up. Is it available on Free-ship-it CD ?
[10:49] <BrokenCrystal> so it worked?
[10:50] <bz0b> Does anyone have good background in install ati drivers because the one in the repo, i don't know if it installed correctly
[10:50] <adaptr> boghog man update-grub tells you what I have just said
[10:50] <ishtob> hi
[10:50] <dontcho> ubu perhaps it is, but  i dont know 100% check the ubuntu web
[10:51] <ishtob> anyone experienced with working with tablets?
[10:51] <Ubu> dontcho: ok..
[10:52] <jxxxt> outcastcafe: try this or the distro that suits you http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/graphics/mencoder
[10:53] <ishtob> does anyone knows how to set up a tablet pc?
[10:53] <outcastcafe> thank u much jxxxt
[10:53] <foug> anyone here use kubuntu?
[10:53] <defcon_> im having a problem with gnome-session-properties, system>prefs>sessions, it will not save once edited, is there something I can change to fix this, ie reinstall or something?
[10:53] <bz0b> !ati
[10:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:54] <defcon_> !sessions
[10:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sessions - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:54] <ishtob> foug: type /join #kubuntu
[10:54] <gtroy> defcon_ what exactly are you trying to change?
[10:54] <foug> ishtob: word, thought of that and did :P
[10:54] <defcon_> gtroy, add auto start programs, and it will not change or update
[10:54] <jxxxt> foug: there is a #kubuntu
[10:54] <defcon_> i click on save and nogo gtroy
[10:55] <BrokenCrystal> in sessions...
[10:55] <defcon_> yes
[10:55] <BrokenCrystal> when you add something to startup
[10:55] <defcon_> i know this
[10:55] <BrokenCrystal> there is another tab where you click save
[10:55] <defcon_> it wont save
[10:55] <defcon_> yes
[10:55] <defcon_> I know this
[10:55] <defcon_> it will not save
[10:55] <BrokenCrystal> still not saving
[10:55] <defcon_> yes
[10:55] <BrokenCrystal> hmm
[10:55] <defcon_> wont save
[10:55] <gtroy> something odd
[10:55] <BrokenCrystal> not sure then
[10:55] <BrokenCrystal> sorry
[10:55] <defcon_> can I reinstall it
[10:56] <defcon_> or repair
[10:56] <gtroy> you caould edit rc.local
[10:56] <BrokenCrystal> dont think so...
[10:56] <BrokenCrystal> maybe check permissions
[10:56] <dontcho> defcon_ logout login and then try again
[10:56] <BrokenCrystal> so the file can save
[10:56] <gtroy> I agree with BrokenCrystal
[10:56] <defcon_> dontcho, tried that 10 times at least
[10:56] <dontcho> strange...
[10:56] <BrokenCrystal> hmm?
[10:57] <inflex> wh00tz
[10:57] <inflex> that TRON game is fun
[10:57] <defcon_> permissions, i did sudo gnome-session-properties
[10:57] <defcon_> problem solved
[10:57] <BrokenCrystal> sure your checking permissions for the right file
[10:57] <BrokenCrystal> ah
[10:57] <dontcho> ;)
[10:57] <gtroy> defon_ you got it, cool
[10:57] <BrokenCrystal> gave yourself permissions
[10:57] <defcon_> yea
[10:57] <BrokenCrystal> good
[10:59] <boghog> how do I update the /boot/grub/devices.map file?
[10:59] <jxxxt> zcat[1] : Bruce you there?
[10:59] <boghog> or I mean, have it automatically updated since I added/remove some harddriver,s and it isn't displaying a mapping for the new drives
[10:59] <boghog> harddrives*
[11:01] <gtroy> !add hard drive
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about add hard drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <gtroy> !addharddrive
[11:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about addharddrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:01] <gtroy> hmm
[11:01] <gtroy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[11:01] <gtroy> boghog, try that
[11:02] <dontcho> nqmam tolkowa wreme priqtelio da se zanimawam s towa... imam da dowyrshwam proekt ;(
[11:02] <gtroy> I think that might be what you need
[11:02] <dontcho> ups
[11:02] <boghog> thanks gtroy
[11:02] <dontcho> sorry wrong window
[11:02] <gtroy> dontcho, cool
[11:02] <gtroy> np
[11:02] <boghog> gtroy, that doesn't say anything about grub or device.map :(
[11:02] <defcon_> i have 2 grub directories /boot/grub and /boot/boot/grub, my grub menu is royally screwed I have read tutorials and dont know what exactly to do, I have ubuntu installed on my second hard drive, and grub wont boot my computer, each time in the grub menu apon boot I have to edit hd1,0 to hd0,0 for it to boot, how do I make it so I dont have to keep doing this every reboot
[11:03] <zcat[1] > jxxxt: hello.
[11:03] <zcat[1] > ahh crap
[11:03] <gtroy> boghog, I didn't see what you were trying to do
[11:03] <gtroy> boghog, though I bet I can help you
[11:04] <boghog> gtroy, ah, well I need to update my /boot/grub/menu.lst file because it is trying to boot form the wrong disk, so I need to know how grub maps my drives now that I removed/added some, but the /boot/grub/device.map file is outdated
[11:04] <abbiegaelle> hi can somebody help me
[11:05] <gtroy> boghog, give me a second
[11:05] <boghog> ok
[11:05] <BrokenCrystal> ask abbie
[11:05] <abbiegaelle> i want to change server
[11:06] <abbiegaelle> i want to use irc.voila.fr but i dont know how to do it
[11:06] <dontcho> /server irc.voila.fr
[11:07] <gtroy> boghog, found a link you might find useful
[11:07] <gtroy> http://mepislovers.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-702.html
[11:08] <gtroy> everyone just ignore the mepislover thing
[11:08] <gtroy> it talks about ubuntu in there
[11:08] <nilzy> command to mount root partition is mount -t ext3 /dev/hd* /dir ?
[11:09] <gtroy> nilzy, yes
[11:09] <nilzy> cool
[11:09] <gtroy> though you need sudo
[11:09] <nilzy> never really got what sudo is, it's like logging into su without password?
[11:09] <assasukasse> hi all, i have a pc with 192Mb ram, should i go for ubuntu or xubuntu?
[11:09] <gtroy> nilzy, yes
[11:10] <gtroy> well not without the password
[11:10] <BrokenCrystal> what is the processor
[11:10] <gtroy> assasukasse: I like xubuntu, I'm using it onw
[11:10] <gtroy> now
[11:10] <BrokenCrystal> I would do xubuntu, but that is just me
[11:10] <nilzy> sudo mount xxx; then a prompt for password appears I suppose?
[11:10] <assasukasse> gtroy: how did u configure PPPoE?
[11:11] <gtroy> !PPoE
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ppoe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <gtroy> !PPPoE
[11:11] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[11:11] <BrokenCrystal> I use ubuntu, but on that system, xubuntu would be better
[11:11] <gtroy> nilzy, yes
[11:11] <gtroy> hey BrokenCrystal
[11:11] <BrokenCrystal> yea
[11:11] <Shorinji> hello
[11:11] <gtroy> two room cleaners tonight?
[11:12] <BrokenCrystal> huh?
[11:12] <dontcho> what are differents about ubuntu and xbuntu
[11:12] <BrokenCrystal> xfce, gnome
[11:12] <gtroy> dontcho, you use xfce4 instead of gnome
[11:12] <Shorinji> frontend
[11:12] <gtroy> and xfce4 is nice
[11:12] <reverseblade> dontcho, xubuntu is for slower systems usually. It is lightweight
[11:12] <BrokenCrystal> and fast
[11:12] <dontcho> only this one is a different
[11:12] <nilzy> cheers gtroy
[11:13] <gtroy> :-D
[11:13] <BrokenCrystal> what were you asking gtroy?
[11:13] <dontcho> btw... sorry for my poor english
[11:13] <gtroy> BrokenCrystal: just saying I don't see any other helpers tonight
[11:13] <BrokenCrystal> oh, lol
[11:13] <gtroy> dontcho, don't worry
[11:13] <BrokenCrystal> can't sleep
[11:13] <gtroy> yeah, me too
[11:13] <dontcho> tonight ? lol... here is 12:14 p.m.   noon :)
[11:14] <gtroy> my slackware friend went to sleep :(
[11:14] <BrokenCrystal> 4:14AM here
[11:14] <gtroy> 2:00am
[11:14] <dontcho> lol
[11:14] <dontcho> nice
[11:14] <gtroy> not really
[11:14] <boghog> ah found it, I need to run "grub --device-map=/boot/grub/device.map " after deleting the original device.map
[11:14] <Shorinji> what do people use for editing videos?  don't say kino because it sucks
[11:14] <gtroy> boghog, good
[11:14] <Goldenphoenix> hello, good morning everybody
[11:15] <BrokenCrystal> on a camcorder, or just from a file?
[11:15] <gtroy> Shorinji: cinelerri?
[11:15] <gtroy> cinelerra
[11:15] <BrokenCrystal> yes, gtroy is right
[11:15] <BrokenCrystal> cinelerra is nice
[11:15] <Shorinji> gtroy: it's ok but its not as user friendy as say Pinnacle studio, there must be a app like it out or on its way
[11:16] <BrokenCrystal> ubuntu studio has some nice stuff, but I can't remember what all it installs
[11:16] <Goldenphoenix> Does somebody know how to tell the installer on the alternate install disk to use mountet partitions?
[11:16] <shiester_miester> greetings all
[11:16] <Shorinji> ubuntu studio?
[11:16] <gtroy> Shorinji: well, not apps are as user friendly in linux
[11:16] <Flannel> Goldenphoenix: mountet?
[11:17] <gtroy> Flannel: I think Goldenphoenix means mount
[11:17] <gtroy> *to state the obvious*
[11:17] <Flannel> gtroy: even if he does, I dont know what he means
[11:17] <Shorinji> gtoy: nope that is true, but video production software is what lacks the most and just happens to be what i need the most
[11:17] <Goldenphoenix> Flannel, gtroy: no, they are mounted, and I want to install Ubuntu on them
[11:18] <gtroy> Goldenphoenix: gotcha
[11:18] <gtroy> one second
[11:18] <gtroy> Shorinji: yeah, I know what you mean
[11:18] <Flannel> Goldenphoenix: they aren't mounted.  The alternate CD doesn't mount any HDDs
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> #
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> pitivi - Video editor
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> #
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> cinepaint - A painting and image retouching program designed to work best with 35mm film and other high resolution high dynamic range images.
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> #
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> ffmpeg - Multimedia player, server and encoder
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> #
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> ffmpeg2theora - Theora video encoder using ffmpeg
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> #
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> kino - A non-linear editor for Digital Video data
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> #
[11:18] <gtroy> oh!! cinepaint I love that program!!
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> stopmotion - A program for creating stop motion animation.
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> #
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal> dvgrab - Grab digital video data via IEEE1394 links
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal>     *
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal>       jahshaka
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal>     *
[11:18] <BrokenCrystal>       cinelerra
[11:19] <Flannel> !ops
[11:19] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[11:19] <BrokenCrystal> those are from ubuntu studio
[11:19] <Myrtti> wha
[11:19] <Goldenphoenix> Flannel: But I want to mount them manually, because they are encrypted
[11:19] <Myrtti> BrokenCrystal: next time, USE PASTEBIN
[11:19] <Shorinji> heh
[11:19] <BrokenCrystal> yea, sorry
[11:19] <BrokenCrystal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/PackageList
[11:19] <shiester_miester> lol
[11:19] <Myrtti> or I'll get very angry and huff and puff your ubuntu down
[11:20] <gtroy> is there karma here?
[11:20] <gtroy> !karma?
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about karma? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <gtroy> !karma
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about karma - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <Shorinji> for the most part tho none of can bitch about ubuntu, it has 99% of what any windows peice of crap has
[11:20] <crimsun> no, there's no LP karma associated with IRC interaction [yet] 
[11:20] <Shorinji> and then some
[11:20] <gtroy> thanks crimsun
[11:20] <gtroy> just checking
[11:20] <Shorinji> and no worries of windows geniuine bullshits
[11:20] <zcat[1] > anyone know of any good voice-recognition software for ubuntu?
[11:20] <imbrandon> Shorinji, please watch the language
[11:20] <dylan030> or viruses
[11:20] <milaks> Hi, I'm using Kubuntu, and have installed Apache2. I'm not administrator and I just want to test some blogs on my local machine, for which I have working (already used it before on other machine) /etc/apache/apache2.conf, but when I try to start apache I get this error message: http://apache.pastebin.ca/518396 Can someone please tell me what package I need to install?
[11:20] <gtroy> zcat{1}
[11:21] <shiester_miester> yeah windows genuine advantage is awful
[11:21] <Shorinji> oh yeah
[11:21] <Shorinji> forgot i was in chrsitian ubunti
[11:21] <gtroy> yeah, I can remember soemething
[11:21] <Shorinji> christian ubuntu
[11:21] <Shorinji> hehe
[11:21] <shiester_miester> christian?
[11:21] <Myrtti> !attitude | Shorinji
[11:21] <ubotu> Shorinji: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:21] <BrokenCrystal> i love windows genuine advantage
[11:21] <BrokenCrystal> Joke
[11:21] <Myrtti> and keep the offtopic to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:21] <gordonjcp> hrm
[11:21] <Flannel> milaks: You shouldn't be editing apache2.conf, you should be editing things in sites-available (and then enabling those sites with a2ensite)
[11:21] <shiester_miester> hmm
[11:21] <gtroy> CvoiceControl
[11:22] <shiester_miester> christian != nonswearing
[11:22] <gordonjcp> yeah
[11:22] <shiester_miester> meh
[11:22] <Shorinji> gosh
[11:22] <gordonjcp> see, the language in here is what puts me off helping more
[11:22] <gtroy> swearing? where?
[11:22] <imbrandon> offtopic banter to #ubuntu-offtopic too please, this is a support channel
[11:22] <shiester_miester> ive got a problem with my ubuntu feisty installation: when I boot up, sound is nonexistant, then I restart and it works perfectly.  I'm using a soundblaster live and aparrently others have similar problems.  can anybody help?
[11:22] <Shorinji> gtroy: not sure
[11:22] <milaks> Flannel: Anyhow, it worked with my previous ubuntu installation ok. Can you please tell me what I need to install to eliminate that error about "UserDir"?
[11:23] <gtroy> !soundblaster
[11:23] <ubotu> soundblaster is If you need help with setting up your soundblaster card, then visit https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundcardsWithHardwareSynth
[11:23] <shiester_miester> thx
[11:23] <gtroy> :-D
[11:23] <Shorinji> ta ta kids
[11:23] <shiester_miester> milaks, have you looked at the apache2.conf to see what this "userdir" command is doing?
[11:23] <gtroy> trust the ubotu, the force runs strong with him
[11:24] <milaks> shiester_miester: it says: UserDir public_html
[11:24] <Enselic> Hello, what is /opt meant for? External applications?
[11:24] <gtroy> cu shiester_miester
[11:24] <Enselic> it is empty on a clean installation
[11:24] <Goldenphoenix> does anybody know howto reinstall the whole system with apt-get?
[11:24] <shiester_miester> is UserDir is a valid command
[11:25] <ryanbot> anyone tell me the command to start telnet server?
[11:25] <shiester_miester> Goldenphoenix, why not just reinstall ubuntu?
[11:25] <BrokenCrystal> a whole system?
[11:25] <gtroy> ryanbot, telnet
[11:25] <shiester_miester> lmao
[11:25] <ryanbot> to start telnetd?
[11:25] <dontcho> milaks this is a dir where your index.html/php will be
[11:25] <Flannel> milaks: oh, youre using userdir module.  You DONT edit apache2.conf at all.  Just add public_html to your homedir.  and make sure userdir is loaded (a2enmod userdir)
[11:25] <Myrtti> ryanbot: why on earth would you like to have a telnet server?
[11:25] <ryanbot> testing somethign
[11:25] <shiester_miester> ubotu, my card is on that list, and as i said, sound does work.  just not when I first boot ubuntu
[11:25] <BrokenCrystal> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ???
[11:26] <defcon_> where is rc.local file?
[11:26] <Goldenphoenix> shiester_miester, BrokenCrystal: because there is a problem with libselinux1, and on this there are depending basic packages
[11:26] <ryanbot> i forget the command to start telnetd service
[11:26] <dontcho> defcon_ type whereis rc.local :)
[11:26] <defcon_> word
[11:26] <odor> Szervusztok! A krsem:milyen progival tudnk avit dvdre konvertlni
[11:26] <shiester_miester> defcon_, its at /etc/rc.local
[11:26] <Goldenphoenix> BrokenCrystal: is this replacing all packages?
[11:26] <shiester_miester> theres also one at /etc/init.d/rc.local
[11:26] <Flannel> !hu | odor
[11:26] <ubotu> odor: Magyar nyelv segtsget az #ubuntu-hu csatornn tall
[11:26] <milaks> Flannel: Sorry, I'm not much into this stuff, can you tell me detailed what I need to do?
[11:27] <BrokenCrystal> no, not all
[11:27] <defcon_> im having problems with system>prefs>sessions how do I change the permissions because it wont save
[11:27] <BrokenCrystal> might be easier to install ubuntu from cd...
[11:27] <shiester_miester> lol i just realised ubotu is a bot
[11:27] <defcon_> which file do I chmod
[11:27] <shiester_miester> a multi-lingual bot at that :P
[11:28] <shiester_miester> do any human beings know how to help me with my sound problem?
[11:28] <Flannel> milaks: First, revert whatever you changed in apache2.conf, then "sudo a2enmod userdir" then "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" then make ~/public_html and make sure that it, and your homedir are world readable.
[11:28] <Goldenphoenix> BrokenCrystal, but howTo install on encrapted partitions from the cd?
[11:28] <shiester_miester> lmfao @ "encrapted"
[11:28] <gtroy> cu guys
[11:28] <BrokenCrystal> lol
[11:28] <BrokenCrystal> nite
[11:28] <Goldenphoenix> *encrypted
[11:28] <shiester_miester> what a great portmanteau
[11:28] <`davo> heh
[11:28] <milaks> Flannel: moment I'll do that right now...
[11:28] <`davo> how can I change the shortcut keys for the connect to server option?
[11:29] <Flannel> milaks: the userdir module is probably already enabled, so don't be alarmed if it tells you something to that extent
[11:29] <edu> anyone know when 8600GT drivers are coming out for Feisty?
[11:29] <BrokenCrystal> cant you just format the drive and install from cd
[11:29] <shiester_miester> edu, they havent?
[11:29] <Goldenphoenix> shiester_miester: what means lmfao?
[11:29] <Balshoy> Does anybody know a program like dc++ for linux?
[11:29] <shiester_miester> i have an 8800gts and ive got drivers
[11:30] <milaks> Flannel: I'm using Amd64 edition, and when I try "sudo apt-get install a2enmod" it says: E: Couldn't find package a2enmod
[11:30] <shiester_miester> Balshoy, tried using wine with dc++?
[11:30] <edu> no, and i'm missing the wobbly effect and & workspace on a cube dearly
[11:30] <shiester_miester> Goldenphoenix, lmfao = laughing my ******* a$$ off
[11:30] <Flannel> milaks: that shouldnt matter. LEt me make sure that command is still the same in feisty.  You're using 7.04 right?
[11:30] <Balshoy> nope... but I bet 20$ it doesn't work... anyway... I'll try it now
[11:30] <Balshoy> :D
[11:30] <shiester_miester> i turn those off anyway, they get annoying after a while
[11:30] <shiester_miester> plus they seem to make it crash faster
[11:31] <shiester_miester> although my beryl crashes eventually anyway and i have to revert to metacity
[11:31] <shiester_miester> i wish theyd work :(
[11:31] <milaks> Flannel: Yes, I'm running Feisty
[11:31] <Gandalf84> i don't see the start bar...how can i restart it?
[11:31] <shiester_miester> i like being able to make the cube flat so it scrolls across in a stright line
[11:31] <Flannel> milaks: No no.  You aren't installing a2enmod.  It's already there.  Apache installed it.
[11:31] <edu> does anyone know the wait for nvidia drivers?
[11:31] <Gandalf84> i installed beryl and now gnome sucks
[11:31] <dontcho> Balshoy for linux have linuxdcpp program
[11:32] <Flannel> milaks: just "sudo a2enmod userdir"
[11:32] <BrokenCrystal> has anyone tried the beta drivers that just came out
[11:32] <shiester_miester> which version are they?
[11:32] <milaks> Flannel: aha, my mistake :) give me a sec...
[11:32] <BrokenCrystal> says they support more cards and notebooks
[11:32] <Balshoy> thx
[11:32] <houdini> Gandalf84:  KDE rocks
[11:32] <Gandalf84> ubuntu cames with gnome
[11:32] <BrokenCrystal> http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_downloads_rel70betadriver.html
[11:32] <shiester_miester> edu, what wait? nvidia drivers already exist
[11:33] <shiester_miester> you seem to think that there arent any
[11:33] <user___> how can i remove the "hda1" icon on my Desktop ?
[11:33] <edu> not for 8600GT, did a check http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-9755/README/appendix-a.html
[11:33] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[11:33] <BrokenCrystal> 100.14.06
[11:33] <BrokenCrystal> Linux x86 Display Driver
[11:33] <shiester_miester> thats weird
[11:33] <BrokenCrystal> Release Date: May 21, 2007
[11:33] <BrokenCrystal> BETA Driver
[11:33] <Ademan> anyone know if there is a waf package in the repositories?
[11:33] <Flannel> BrokenCrystal: stop pasting here.
[11:33] <shiester_miester> you would thikn that if they had drivers for the 8800gts, they would also have some for the 8600
[11:34] <Gandalf84_> i don't see the start bar....how can i "restart" it's process?
[11:34] <edu> me too! but they don't
[11:34] <dontcho> user___ click 1 time on it and then press delete or del on keybord
[11:34] <milaks> Flannel: Thanks a lot, it's working now :)
[11:34] <edu> i feel like buying a card now that feisty supports but i just spent $205 AU so i guess i gotta wait...
[11:34] <shiester_miester> Gandalf84_, did you accidentally remove it or something?
[11:34] <Ademan> or rather if waf is included in any package in the repositories, because i'm fairly confident there's no waf package, i've done a few searches
[11:34] <user___> "You cannot move the volume "hda1" to the garbage bin"
[11:34] <neztiti> did anyone succeed to get humax5400 2 work with linux???
[11:34] <milaks> Flannel: Sorry for bothering, best regards.
[11:35] <user___> dontcho: the above is what i get..
[11:35] <Gandalf84_> shiester_miester: i installed beryl...and after restart i don't see up and bottom bar
[11:35] <shiester_miester> oh ok, yeah beryl can cause problems
[11:35] <shiester_miester> Gandalf84_, do you have your video card drivers installed
[11:35] <Gandalf84_> yes
[11:36] <dontcho> user___ sorry i have no more ideas :(
[11:36] <shiester_miester> hmm
[11:36] <onats> hello, can someone suggest partition sizes for a 17.2GB HDD? i'm about to install ubuntu feisty...
[11:36] <aa_> 17G on /
[11:36] <aa_> witha  bit of swap
[11:37] <onats> what about the swap file? would also like to separate the /home folder?
[11:37] <shiester_miester> onats, my whole ubuntu installation is just over 8gb, so maybe 10 if you arent going to use much space
[11:37] <SlimeyPete> how much ram do you have, onats?
[11:37] <Goldenphoenix> onats: Have you heard on lvm?
[11:37] <user___> so it seems i have these icons on my Desktop, that i cant get rid of...
[11:37] <onats> slimeypete, 1gig..
[11:37] <onats> goldenphoenix, nope.. whats that?
[11:37] <shiester_miester> Gandalf84_, try pasting this into console "killall beryl -SIGUSR2" (without quotes obviously)
[11:37] <SlimeyPete> onats: swap shouldn't be too much of a problem then but I'd still set aside half a gig for it just to be safe.
[11:37] <shiester_miester> or typing into console, actually :P
[11:38] <SlimeyPete> onats: I'd go for 10GB root, 6-6.5GB home and half a gig of swap
[11:38] <onats> slimeypete, how come i've been reading stuff about separating a partition, 1.5~2 times the actual RAM total?
[11:38] <Eagle_101> can someone please read and advise me on what to do about http://rafb.net/p/SXD0RO27.html
[11:38] <Gandalf84_> shiester_miester: beryl: no process killed
[11:38] <shiester_miester> :/
[11:38] <Gandalf84_> i already kill all beryl process
[11:38] <shiester_miester> how about "killall beryl"
[11:39] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[11:39] <Flannel> onats: Is it a laptop?
[11:39] <SlimeyPete> onats: that's the recommended amount but with a gig of RAM, your PC won't be making that much use of swap space
[11:39] <shiester_miester> so beryl isnt running then
[11:39] <shiester_miester> hmm
[11:39] <onats> flannel, nope, desktop..
[11:39] <SlimeyPete> onats: if you had more space available I'd say go for 2GB swap because you may as well, but tbh it won't make much difference unless you're doing a lot of multitasking
[11:39] <Flannel> onats: Then you wont need to suspendto RAM.  And, surely, with say... 2GB of ram, you wouldn't think you'd need 4GB of swap, would you?  There's limits to that 2x thing.  But yes, for smaller bits, thats a good rule of thumb.
[11:39] <shiester_miester> Eagle_101, thats a weird problem.  does it come up with the normal livecd boot menu?
[11:40] <Gandalf84_> shiester_miester: do u know how to remove gnome autostarting programs from console?
[11:40] <Eagle_101> yeah I get the normal boot window.
[11:40] <onats> slimeypete, ok, so your suggestion would be, 512MB for swap, 10GB for root, and the rest for home?
[11:40] <`davo> so....
[11:40] <`davo> one more time
[11:40] <onats> flannel, its actually just 1 GB of ram...
[11:40] <shiester_miester> yeah you need to remove them from an rc file, but im not sure which one
[11:40] <`davo> anyone know how to change the keyboard shortcut of Connect to server in the 'places' menu?
[11:40] <Goldenphoenix> onats: It's something special, Logical Volume Manager, you can there create "logical" partitions and resize them later, even in a running system
[11:40] <shiester_miester> anybody know which rc file has the stuff that runs at startup in it?
[11:41] <user___> surely someone knows how i can remove the "hda1" link icon from my Ubuntu desktop..
[11:41] <shiester_miester> user___, not necessarily
[11:41] <shiester_miester> its not a shortcut, it might be the actual volume itself mounted there...
[11:41] <onats> what if i do this 'guided' partitioning, will it automatically allocate partitions?
[11:42] <shiester_miester> Gandalf84_, are there any menubars visible at all?
[11:42] <user___> shiester_miester: the output of "mount" shows it is mounted in /media/
[11:42] <Gandalf84_> no
[11:42] <Gandalf84_> only right-click menus
[11:42] <shiester_miester> user___, yeah thats where its mounted in the filesystem
[11:42] <shiester_miester> Gandalf84_, im not sure how to reset the menu positions :/
[11:42] <kekZpriester> i want to run a live cd image in qemu 0.8.2, but it stops at ISOLINUX. it seems as if qemu doesn't capture my return button or doenst forward it to isolinux
[11:43] <shiester_miester> kekZpriester, whats qemu?
[11:43] <kekZpriester> shiester_miester, a virtual machine in which i want to run the live cd
[11:44] <shiester_miester> oh ok, thats interesting
[11:44] <onats> slimeypete, does the order of the partitions matter?
[11:44] <Gandalf84_> triyng restarting X
[11:44] <Gandalf84_> brb
[11:44] <shiester_miester> ok
[11:44] <Knol> !ati
[11:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:44] <nitz> Or use Envy!
[11:45] <shiester_miester> envy is great
[11:45] <shiester_miester> envy ftw
[11:45] <Eagle_101> so yeah... any way to bypass this login window? Its rather impossible to play with it whilist I'm locked out >.>
[11:45] <sonymbdv76> halo ppl, need help getting my superjoy usb working on epsxe on ubuntu fiesty
[11:46] <sonymbdv76> my superjoy works on jscalibrator
[11:46] <onats> what should the partitions for /,/home, and swap be? logical or primary?
[11:46] <user___> shiester_miester: so how is the volume "mounted" to my Desktop ?
[11:46] <shiester_miester> user___, its probably not
[11:46] <sonymbdv76> but cant get epsxe to pick up my dev/input/js0
[11:46] <shiester_miester> its most likely mounted in /media
[11:46] <sonymbdv76> :(
[11:46] <user___> that in itself goes against when i thought i knew about mounting drives/partitions in linux
[11:46] <shiester_miester> yeah
[11:46] <boubou974> -fr
[11:46] <user___> hmm
[11:46] <user___> i cant even see the link in ~/Desktop
[11:47] <shiester_miester> yeah its not a shortcut
[11:47] <shiester_miester> and its not a file either
[11:47] <dontcho> onats primary
[11:47] <shiester_miester> i think its something that gnome puts there, maybe
[11:47] <onats> dontcho, thanks!
[11:47] <sonymbdv76> halo ppl, need help getting my superjoy usb working on epsxe on ubuntu fiesty
[11:47] <kekZpriester> i started qemu with -smp 2 all time, with -smp 1 it seems to work...
[11:48] <shiester_miester> sonymbdv76, http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html#wait
[11:48] <aa_> woah, qemu just took my mouse on the host system out, weird
[11:48] <onats> great, my mouse stopped working
[11:48] <user___> ahh
[11:48] <user___> shiester_miester: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/2625
[11:48] <POVaddct> kekZpriester: it takes quite a while before the kernel actually boot with -smp 2
[11:49] <sonymbdv76> fair enuff
[11:49] <sonymbdv76> i just sit and wait
[11:49] <shiester_miester> user___, useful indeed
[11:49] <onats> where should i put the boot loader?
[11:49] <onats> (hd0)?
[11:49] <shiester_miester> thanks for showing me that
[11:49] <user___> its because you said "i think its something gnome puts there"
[11:49] <Nom-> anyone here use the file-explorer plugin for vim ?
[11:50] <houdini> blablabla
[11:50] <shiester_miester> glad i could help somewhat
[11:50] <kekZpriester> POVaddct, how long should i wait?
[11:50] <POVaddct> kekZpriester: about one minute
[11:50] <POVaddct> kekZpriester: depends on how fast your real cpu is
[11:51] <Me2resh> hi, after i updated ubuntu today, the fat32 and ntfs drives dissapeared
[11:51] <shiester_miester> Me2resh, thats unpleasant :|
[11:51] <Enselic_> How can I find out if a pacakge (libgtkmm2.4-*) was included in the default installation or not?
[11:51] <kekZpriester> POVaddct, ok, just trying...
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[11:52] <shiester_miester> dammit datrigg, use pastebin
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[11:52] <orbin> !ops
[11:52] <datrigg> oops
[11:52] <datrigg> does anyone know why I am getting please insert the disk labeled 'Ubuntu 7.04 _Feisty Fawn_ - Release i386 (20070415)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[11:52] <shiester_miester> doesnt this channel ban people from filling the channel with copypasta!?
[11:52] <shiester_miester> whats with that
[11:52] <user___> because its set in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:52] <datrigg> soooo sorry
[11:53] <shiester_miester> foiled once again!
[11:53] <datrigg> wrong clipboard
[11:53] <Myrtti> shiester_miester: we're humans too
[11:53] <user___> datrigg: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:53] <shiester_miester> well, some of us are
[11:53] <shiester_miester> ubotu isnt a human :P
[11:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about isnt a human :p - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:53] <shiester_miester> see?
[11:54] <shiester_miester> ubotu, do you like the movie "bicentennial man"?
[11:54] <datrigg> my file is empty
[11:54] <onats> how do i fix my mouse???
[11:54] <Tom_Kun> I have a question for you guys.. to my sudden realisation, only one of my video cards (running dual display) is showing anything using opengl
[11:54] <Tom_Kun> direct rendering seems to be off
[11:54] <Me2resh> hi, after i updated ubuntu today, the fat32 and ntfs drives dissapeared, also my external usb hard disk is not mounted when i plug it, can anyone help ?
[11:54] <Tom_Kun> dri and glx are loaded in xorg.conf
[11:54] <shiester_miester> Me2resh, can you boot from OSes installed in those partitions?
[11:54] <shiester_miester> or are they completely gone altogether
[11:55] <Me2resh> shiester_miester,  yes, i can boot to windows with no problem
[11:55] <datrigg> user____: what do you need...pastebin of the file?
[11:55] <shiester_miester> so you just cant see them within ubuntu?
[11:55] <Tom_Kun> do the standard "ati" and "i810" drivers have mesagl hw support?
[11:55] <onats> where should i put the bootloader?
[11:55] <user___> datrigg: if you want, sure.
[11:56] <user___> datrigg: you are having the issue with apt asking for the CD ?
[11:56] <ryanbot> can someone explain why /etc/init.d/telnet restart won't work even if i have telnetd installed? what do i need to do to start it?
[11:56] <dontcho> Tom_Kun i810 has  about ati i dunno
[11:56] <shiester_miester> anybody had any experience with debugging sound in ubuntu?  my sound doesnt work when I boot initially, but then when I restart its fine.  its annoying as hell
[11:56] <Tom_Kun> dontcho: do you know if there's any other driver I can load for 'mach64' ati chipsets?
[11:56] <Me2resh> hi, after i updated ubuntu today, the fat32 and ntfs drives dissapeared, also my external usb hard disk is not mounted when i plug it, can anyone help ?
[11:57] <dontcho> Tom_Kun i now only this drivers that in on ati web site
[11:57] <user___> shiester_miester: you using esd, or just ALSA ?
[11:57] <dontcho> onats on mbr
[11:57] <vlt> Hello. I want to create an IPSec connection to a university's Cisco VPN server. The admins there provide the source for a "cisco vpn client" I can compile. Is this client available in a repository or as .deb?
[11:57] <shiester_miester> uhh...im using whatever starts up :/  its working at the moment, how can I find out?
[11:58] <bz0b> i keep getting the mesa drivers for my ati card, what should i do?
[11:58] <bz0b> !ati
[11:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:58] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: check in System->Prefs->sound if ESD is selected
[11:58] <shiester_miester> yes, it is
[11:58] <shiester_miester> im using ALSA at the moment, though
[11:58] <wishie[out] > datrigg: the first two entries are why its prompting for a CD all the time
[11:59] <Tom_Kun> the binary ati drivers are only for radeon cards unfortunately. this one is a bit older than that :)
[11:59] <wishie[out] > datrigg: the ones starting with "deb cdrom"
[11:59] <Paddy_EIRE> trying to get alsa working again after a recent update screwed most of my system, could anyone help (rock solid my ass)
[11:59] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: if possible, i recommend not using ESD at all. then again, i dont use gnome, except when in ubuntu. i am a regular #alsa member.
[12:00] <bz0b> Tom_Kun, are you reffering that to me?
[12:00] <shiester_miester> yeah i dont use it, ive set it to use ALSA
[12:00] <shiester_miester> well, its installed but it came like that anyway
[12:00] <bz0b> Tom_Kun, because i have an ati x1600pro
[12:00] <wishie[out] > datrigg: im not registered with this nick.. so, just comment out the 2 lines starting with "deb cdrom"
[12:00] <sonymbdv76> halo ppl, need help getting my superjoy usb working on epsxe on ubuntu fiesty
[12:01] <shiester_miester> wishie[out] , any ideas as to what i could do to investigate this problem?
[12:01] <onats> what's a superjoy usb?
[12:01] <Tom_Kun> bz0b: nah, struggeling with my own problem :)
[12:01] <Paddy_EIRE> onats, it provides super joy
[12:01] <sonymbdv76> oh its an adaptor which enables me to use psx controller on my laptop
[12:01] <lina_> hi, i had my computer upgraded to ubuntu feisty from edgy by my bf, was working fine for a few days but now i can't connect to the internet through my router and the graphical display won't start (this is a spare computer i'm using)
[12:01] <Paddy_EIRE> sonymbdv76, sounds good
[12:01] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: sure. download and run my alsa-info script, which will give me the info i need to fix the issue. i am however about to head home (takes me about 30-40 minutes to get there)
[12:02] <lina_> anyone know what the problem might be?
[12:02] <onats> paddy, what game do you play on linux using superjoy?
[12:02] <defcon_> is there anything better than gdesklets
[12:02] <shiester_miester> wishie[out] , i was just looking in the gconf-editor program, and i noticed a setting that says "enable_esd", could this be helpful?
[12:02] <sonymbdv76> epsxe is excellent for emulating psx games
[12:02] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: if possible, will you be around then? in the meantime, try asking some of the others in #alsa. one of the ubuntu alsa packagers hangs in there too
[12:02] <defcon_> it seems to me gdesklets are kinda old
[12:02] <sonymbdv76> but cant get epsxe to detect my superjoy
[12:02] <sonymbdv76> :(
[12:02] <defcon_> anything new for desktop widgets
[12:03] <onats> i see... so you can play ps1,ps2 games?
[12:03] <sonymbdv76> only ps1 atm
[12:03] <onats> what about PSP, PS3?
[12:03] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: ESD is a sound server, that blocks the sound card.. most apps have an ALSA output aswell, are you are better off using that. and letting ALSA handle the software stream mixing itself.
[12:03] <onats> ahhh
[12:03] <sonymbdv76> ya
[12:03] <sonymbdv76> sucks
[12:03] <sonymbdv76> but there is one game i play
[12:03] <sonymbdv76> and thats all i play
[12:03] <sonymbdv76> cus im running a competition with it
[12:03] <sonymbdv76> and its becoming popular among my peers
[12:03] <shiester_miester> lol running ps3 games on a pc = WIN
[12:04] <shiester_miester> give a medal to the man who makes a ps3 emulator
[12:04] <aldin> how to find out is my ISP blocking port 25
[12:04] <onats> hehehe, was just asking if that epsxe did
[12:04] <shiester_miester> of course u would need a freaking supercomputer to run the damn thing at the moment
[12:04] <hylje> or a PS3
[12:04] <sonymbdv76> yeah ps3 is a mad machine
[12:04] <Paddy_EIRE> shiester_miester, man I cant stand sonys consoles
[12:04] <shiester_miester> wishie[out] , it BLOCKS the sound card?
[12:04] <lina_> hi, i had my computer upgraded to ubuntu feisty from edgy by my bf, was working fine for a few days but now i can't connect to the internet through my router and the graphical display won't start (this is a spare computer i'm using)
[12:05] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: yes. in most instances, when ESD is in use, non-ESD apps will fail to use it.
[12:05] <onats> how do i restart mouse drivers?
[12:05] <sonymbdv76> i guess nobody can help me with my superjoy
[12:05] <sonymbdv76> oh well
[12:05] <shiester_miester> wishie[out] , ive set ALSA for all sound playback in the sound preferences
[12:05] <wishie[out] > unless you have a card with hardware mixing, such as some of the creative cards, and a few others.
[12:05] <shiester_miester> so how is ESD even doing anything/
[12:05] <sonymbdv76> i go and cry in the corner again
[12:05] <shiester_miester> *?
[12:05] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: if you set ALSA as the output, and untick the ESD box, then ESD isnt the issue.
[12:05] <shiester_miester> yeah im pretty sure it does have that...wasnt that the whole selling point of the "live!" series
[12:05] <onats> can anyone tell me how to access the Applications launcher with just the keyboard?
[12:05] <shiester_miester> onats, alt+f2
[12:06] <onats> didn't work...
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> if this os is supposed to be "rock solid" then winxp must be cut with a diamond
[12:06] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: ill give you a script to run, which will generate info that the #alsa people will want, to help solve your issue
[12:06] <onats> ah there... it did
[12:06] <shiester_miester> ok thanks
[12:06] <shiester_miester> lol @ onats
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> whats with a simple update screwing with everything
[12:06] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: http://www.wishie.net/alsa/index.php?task=support
[12:06] <wishie[out] > download and run the alsa-info.sh script
[12:06] <shiester_miester> ok
[12:06] <lina_> Paddy_EIRE: i know the feeling :(
[12:07] <shiester_miester> run it when sound is or isnt working?
[12:07] <wishie[out] > paste the URL in #alsa, with a summary of the issue you are facing.
[12:07] <shiester_miester> because at the moment everything is working perfectly :P
[12:07] <onats> shiester, how do i navigate the applications? alt+f2 gives me the run command...
[12:07] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: run it now. bookmark the URL
[12:07] <shiester_miester> ok
[12:07] <lina_> hi, i had my computer upgraded to ubuntu feisty from edgy by my bf, was working fine for a few days but now i can't connect to the internet through my router and the graphical display won't start (this is a spare computer i'm using)
[12:07] <wishie[out] > and run it when sound isnt working, and bookmark the URL
[12:07] <atlas95> hello
[12:07] <wishie[out] > ill be at home in 30-40 minutes, and will take a closer look for you
[12:07] <Paddy_EIRE> lina_, yeah, considering rebooting an os that works
[12:07] <shiester_miester> onats, in the alt+f2 menu, click "show known applications" that should be good enough
[12:08] <Paddy_EIRE> wishie[out] , how come everyone that passes out that script goes away
[12:08] <Paddy_EIRE> ;P
[12:08] <wishie[out] > i dont know, i just wrote it :P
[12:08] <shiester_miester> lina_, you could also just reinstall ubuntu
[12:08] <Paddy_EIRE> nah someone else did
[12:08] <shiester_miester> when gnome is broken, i found it difficult to fix
[12:08] <lina_> shiester_miester: i don't know how
[12:09] <wishie[out] > Paddy_EIRE: alsa-info.sh is my creation
[12:09] <Paddy_EIRE> wishie[out] , you sure on that,
[12:09] <wishie[out] > yes
[12:09] <shiester_miester> lina_, that could be a problem
[12:09] <lina_> shiester_miester: and whats to stop it happening again after a couplel of days? there was no apparant reason.. was watchin a film last night and this morning it doesn't work
[12:09] <wishie[out] > written with the help of gnubien, crimsun and gruemaster in #alsa
[12:09] <shiester_miester> thats true
[12:09] <vom> mornin'
[12:10] <lina_> when it loads it has a blue screen with characters around the edge and some error output.. says something about a stack trace
[12:10] <Paddy_EIRE> wishie[out] , aahh, was crimsun that gave it to me then vanished lol
[12:10] <lina_> and if i want to view some other output as well..
[12:10] <shiester_miester> lina_, try disabling the automatic updates...it could have installed something that broke it
[12:10] <lina_> shiester_miester: where do i do that?
[12:10] <wishie[out] > Paddy_EIRE: heh, yeah, i wrote it for me (and those guys) to help us fix problems more easily
[12:10] <onats> dammit.. pressed alt+f4
[12:10] <onats> what's the command to restart mouse drivers?
[12:11] <shiester_miester> well you need to be in ubuntu, which you cant since then GUI is broken
[12:11] <shiester_miester> what i mean is, re-install ubuntu and stop it from automatically updating itself
[12:11] <Paddy_EIRE> wishie[out] , i have the results of that script
[12:11] <lina_> shiester_miester: ok
[12:11] <ompaul> wishie[out] , may I pm?
[12:11] <lina_> will see if i have a cd
[12:11] <lina_> if thats the only option
[12:11] <lina_> it's a very nice computer though.. should be better than this :(
[12:12] <shiester_miester> lina_, you can have the most expensive computer in the world and software will still crash
[12:12] <wishie[out] > ompaul: sure, but i cant answer, as im not registered with this nickname
[12:12] <shiester_miester> thats like saying that cars wont crash if you make roads properly :P
[12:12] <lina_> ok
[12:12] <lina_> shiester_miester: thanks
[12:12] <shiester_miester> the cars (i.e. computers software) are still made by people
[12:12] <shiester_miester> i feel like a noob for asking this, but how do i run .sh files :/
[12:13] <pr0gg3d> hi to all... i've a question... there's a way to enable system-wide core dumps, not only for processes launched from a shell where i've previously made a "unilit -c unlimited"...
[12:13] <shiester_miester> oh wait
[12:13] <shiester_miester> dw
[12:13] <Goldenphoenix> ./file.sh
[12:13] <onats> .file.sh?
[12:13] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: chmod a+x alsa-info.sh, then ./alsa-info.sh
[12:13] <bun-bun> shiester_miester : or you could just do #sh file.sh
[12:13] <shiester_miester> i did bash alsa-info.sh
[12:13] <onats> what's the best IRC client?
[12:13] <onats> x-irc?
[12:13] <cry0x> irssi
[12:13] <Myrtti> irssi <3
[12:14] <bun-bun> shiester_miester : that'll work
[12:14] <shiester_miester> xchat ftw
[12:14] <nolander> xchat
[12:14] <shiester_miester> xchat * infinity
[12:14] <shiester_miester> wishie[out] , http://pastebin.ca/518484
[12:14] <Buschi> hi
[12:15] <Paddy_EIRE> wishie[out] , http://pastebin.ca/517485
[12:15] <Goldenphoenix> Does someone know which name the module for device-mapping for lvm has?
[12:16] <POVaddct> onats: there is no best, there is just personal preference
[12:16] <POVaddct> onats: i use irssi
[12:16] <blackjackel> I'm trying to import my gnome menu into ICEWM, basically I want my IceWM menu to look like gnome and I cant seem to be doing it
[12:16] <onats> POV, nice interface?
[12:17] <Paddy_EIRE> onats, its cli, so not really
[12:17] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: DELL pc ?
[12:17] <shiester_miester> its not a dell...wtf
[12:18] <shiester_miester> where does it say that?
[12:18] <Buschi> i got a prob with kubuntu 7.04: every time i reboot, the resolution changes to 800x600. can someone help me?
[12:18] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: it doesnt. but you have an EMU10K1X
[12:18] <wishie[out] > usually found in dells
[12:18] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[12:18] <wishie[out] > basically, its a cut down sb live, without hardware mixing.
[12:18] <shiester_miester> Buschi, check your xorg.conf file and see if the its updating
[12:19] <Bandit52241> not sure if i'm in the right room but would anyone know of any sites for scripts for xchat
[12:19] <shiester_miester> Buschi, i had the same problem when i was installing my video drivers.  the config program doesnt write to your xorg.conf file properly
[12:19] <Buschi> shiester_miester, it is. i even deleted it... same bug as before...
[12:19] <shiester_miester> uhh...thats why
[12:19] <shiester_miester> dont delete it!
[12:19] <shiester_miester> jeez, man
[12:19] <shiester_miester> thats the file that X uses to get its video settings from
[12:19] <shiester_miester> if you delete it then it will go back to default settings
[12:19] <Buschi> shiester_miester, deleting was the last i tried...
[12:19] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[12:20] <Buschi> how did you solve it?
[12:20] <neopsyche> Hello, i need to transfer files from ubuntu to my xp os on another pc through network using ethernet router/switch
[12:21] <neopsyche> I have gftp running on ubuntu
[12:21] <neopsyche> I have FTP server running on XP
[12:21] <vom> " extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." :S
[12:21] <shiester_miester> Buschi, exited to the console and edited it manually
[12:21] <neopsyche> what settings do i need to enter to transfer files?
[12:21] <shiester_miester> or you can save it to a different location and then just switch them in the console
[12:21] <Buschi> shiester_miester, ok... that doesn't work...
[12:21] <shiester_miester> u can get to it by doing ctrl+shift+backspace, but close down your apps first
[12:22] <shiester_miester> can you give me a pastebin of your current xorg.conf file?
[12:22] <Buschi> how can i send it to you?
[12:22] <kikokos> hi did anybody use OPENLASZLO ?
[12:22] <Myrtti> !pastebin | Buschi
[12:22] <ubotu> Buschi: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:22] <kikokos> i don`t know how to run it :P
[12:23] <wishie[out] > shiester_miester: you managed to get the ubuntu sound dev by chance too!
[12:23] <Buschi> shiester_miester, one moment, please, i'll try
[12:23] <neopsyche> Can anyone help me with transfer of files from Ubuntu to XP ?
[12:24] <Psypointer> hi
[12:24] <POVaddct> neopsyche: on the same machine or over network?
[12:25] <Psypointer> im just trying to install ubuntu on my workstation. its a board with a sata->ide bridge. i need the kernel module pata_jmicron to be loaded, to start the ubuntu live cd. is there any possibility to give a bootparameter which loads this driver? :/
[12:25] <Goldenphoenix> neopsyche: please pastebin "fdisk -l"
[12:25] <Buschi> shiester_miester, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23064/
[12:26] <shiester_miester> thx
[12:26] <shiester_miester> Buschi, nice monitor youve got there
[12:27] <Buschi> shiester_miester, a sony multisync
[12:27] <Buschi> shiester_miester, works really fine!
[12:27] <shiester_miester> i bet it does
[12:28] <shiester_miester> and you said that it always starts up in 800x600?
[12:28] <Buschi> right
[12:28] <shiester_miester> hmm...:/
[12:29] <Buschi> the xorg.conf is ok, isn't it?
[12:29] <shiester_miester> yeah it looks fine to me but then i dont know that much about it
[12:29] <Buschi> ok, thank you!
[12:29] <shiester_miester> what are you using to change the resolution
[12:30] <Buschi> i tried the kde-control-center, nvidia-settings and vi xorg.conf... ;)
[12:30] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[12:31] <Buschi> i'm using linux since several years, but never seen sth like this... :/
[12:31] <shiester_miester> what i did when i installed my drivers is i used nvidia-settings to save the xorg.conf file to a different location, then get out of gnome to the terminal, and sudo cp the file over the top of the real xorg.conf
[12:32] <Zoffix> Does Fiesty have some GUI firewall utility? For some reason I cannot access my webserver from another box. I think it is the firewall.
[12:32] <shiester_miester> lmfao @ http://elliottback.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/sandwich.png
[12:33] <sa3atsky> hi
[12:33] <sa3atsky> i got a huge problem with ubuntu its just unbelievably undocumented
[12:33] <sa3atsky> network card and graphics card drivers not identified by system
[12:33] <shiester_miester> sa3atsky, thats what communities are for ;)
[12:34] <sa3atsky> but they once were, thats what baffled me!
[12:34] <sa3atsky> tried xubuntu, nothing worked. now ubuntu and same problem
[12:34] <shiester_miester> also, its actually very well documented, but it uses a new technique called "distributed documentation" where all documentation is now spread around billions of forum posts
[12:34] <neopsyche> Goldenphoenix: im on xp at the moment.. so theres no code to paste
[12:34] <shiester_miester> and you can hardly say that "nothing worked"
[12:34] <Maxdamantus> Any one know how to fully remove vmware player off Ubuntu?
[12:35] <sa3atsky> shieter_miester, it worked in the last installation, and now doesnt
[12:35] <shiester_miester> what doesnt?
[12:35] <Buschi> shiester_miester, i'll try... thank you so far!
[12:35] <Psypointer> i just solved the problem with pata_jmicron. initrd loads it and you have to add a root=/dev/hdc at your livecd kernel parameters
[12:35] <Zoffix> Maxdamantus, did you try from synaptic?
[12:35] <sa3atsky> eth0 card - networking capabilities, internet
[12:35] <Zoffix> Maxdamantus, what makes you think it wasn't fully deleted?
[12:35] <shiester_miester> Buschi, make a backup! you can break gnome if you screw the file up
[12:35] <Zoffix> Maxdamantus, remove ~/.vmware
[12:35] <sa3atsky> and the videocard was identified, meaning it can run higher than 800x600 res
[12:35] <Goldenphoenix> neopsyche: so then when you boot ubuntu then write again
[12:35] <shiester_miester> ah ok
[12:35] <shiester_miester> thats annoying
[12:36] <sa3atsky> very!
[12:36] <sa3atsky> what can i do??
[12:36] <Paddy_EIRE> what could I do to get alsa sound back again
[12:36] <Maxdamantus> Zoffix, I've done that. :S
[12:36] <sa3atsky> tried replacing network card\cables etc..
[12:36] <sa3atsky> nothing.
[12:36] <shiester_miester> well thats annoying
[12:36] <shiester_miester> and i already said that
[12:36] <sa3atsky> wheres the network file located in ubuntu?
[12:36] <Zoffix> Maxdamantus, what makes you think it wasn't fully removed? Once again, did you delete it from synaptic?
[12:37] <Frogzoo> sa3atsky: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:37] <sa3atsky> network config file
[12:37] <Maxdamantus> Hold on. Doing another slocate.
[12:37] <vhaarr> Anyone got xchat 2.8.2 packages for gutsy?
[12:37] <Frogzoo> sa3atsky: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:37] <sa3atsky> i checked that one, i remember there was another one with more details
[12:37] <Frogzoo> sa3atsky: you using network manager?
[12:37] <sa3atsky> what can i do to remedy my problem? anyone know why its happening in the first place?
[12:37] <sa3atsky> yeah
[12:37] <defcon_> is there a good application for Gnome in Ubuntu like treesize, to show which directories use how much space
[12:38] <defcon_> a gtk app
[12:38] <Maxdamantus> Zoffix, it must have something in some file somewhere.
[12:38] <neopsyche> im using gftp with GUI
[12:38] <Maxdamantus> I'm trying to install vmware server.
[12:38] <Frogzoo> sa3atsky: network manager doesn't like you tinkering
[12:38] <Maxdamantus> But still complaining that "A previous installation of VMware software has been detected."
[12:38] <Zoffix> Maxdamantus, ~_~ did you remove it with Synaptic Package Manager or you are just randomly deleting files manually?
[12:39] <Maxdamantus> I removed it with apt-get
[12:39] <sa3atsky> Frogzoo, whats the cleanest way to go by this? already tried reintalling and still doesnt work
[12:39] <Buschi> shiester_miester, i have a backup... ;) of course...
[12:39] <SayaSe> I'm fairly content with Feisty Fawn, but am considering to reinstall its 64-bit version instead. How would I go about doing that?
[12:39] <sa3atsky> i just dont understand why it used to work once before and now it doesnt
[12:39] <shiester_miester> SayaSe, why do you want to install 64 bit?
[12:39] <shiester_miester> i tried the 64bit one and had some troubles
[12:39] <Maxdamantus> On Kubuntu actually, but it's pretty much the same..
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> For these sorts of things.
[12:40] <sa3atsky> after all the hassle i went thru installing ubuntu in the first place - since my hard disks are hooked up to a sata controller
[12:40] <nuktar> hello ubuntu
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> And #kubuntu isn't as populated. :P
[12:40] <shiester_miester> since a lot of software isnt 64 bit compatible, at all
[12:40] <sa3atsky> ive never had such trouble installing an os!
[12:40] <Frogzoo> sa3atsky: do what?
[12:40] <neopsyche> on other machine
[12:40] <neopsyche> Goldenphoenix: do you know how to do ftp transfer?
[12:40] <neopsyche> ubuntulog: is booted on my other machine
[12:40] <neopsyche> Goldenphoenix: is booted on my other machine
[12:40] <neopsyche> POVaddict: over network
[12:40] <SayaSe> shiester_miester: Because I have a 64-bit processor and a 64-bit version lying here. I don't know of these issues, if you are right I'll of course not do it.
[12:40] <Maxdamantus> Ah. Just noticed some auto startup scripts for vmware.
[12:40] <shiester_miester> SayaSe, yeah i have a 64bit cpu as well
[12:40] <sa3atsky> Frogzoo, how can i solve the networking problem?
[12:41] <Goldenphoenix> neopsyhce: so you want to transfer it over network
[12:41] <shiester_miester> for instance, flash player in firefox doesnt have native support
[12:41] <defcon_> I need a gnome application like Kdirstat or Treesize, I seen one just dont remember the name to search in synaptic
[12:41] <shiester_miester> also, i experienced crashes and some instability problems
[12:41] <busfahrer> Is there any way of getting an unpatched GRUB in Ubuntu?
[12:41] <SayaSe> Right, no 64-bit version. But while I'm here, how would I go about reinstalling Ubuntu in general? First-time installation.
[12:41] <DgrMouse> what is the command to reset the vnc password on my vncserver?
[12:41] <Goldenphoenix> neopsyche: I have no experience with ftp or other server-deamons
[12:42] <Frogzoo> sa3atsky: what networking problem?
[12:42] <sa3atsky> network card is not working
[12:42] <stefg> defcon_: used to be baobab, but name has changed i think
[12:42] <sa3atsky> im not really sure if it does or doesnt
[12:42] <defcon_> stefg, thnx
[12:43] <sa3atsky> not sure if its a driver problem or a problem in ubuntu itself
[12:43] <shiester_miester> SayaSe, boot from ubuntu cd, and just follow all the prompts, basically
[12:43] <shiester_miester> sa3atsky, what are you talking about? ubuntu has no problems! :P
[12:43] <sa3atsky> !!! i wish it hadnt
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i wish it hadnt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <shiester_miester> now look what you made him do
[12:43] <sa3atsky> but so far this is by the far the worst os installation experience ive ever had!
[12:44] <shiester_miester> !! your mom
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about your mom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <shiester_miester> yes you do!
[12:44] <Maxdamantus> Got it, thanks for all the help.
[12:44] <sa3atsky> what can i do to find out if the netwroks workin?
[12:44] <kbrooks> !botabuse | shiester_miester
[12:44] <ubotu> shiester_miester: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[12:44] <sa3atsky> wat do i type in the terminal?
[12:44] <shiester_miester> :(
[12:44] <Paddy_EIRE> could someone help me get sound working again after a recent update?
[12:44] <shiester_miester> Paddy_EIRE, whats the problem?
[12:44] <kbrooks> sa3atsky: well, you type ping www.google.com
[12:44] <Frogzoo> sa3atsky: 1st off, does 'ifconfig -a' show your interface?
[12:45] <Paddy_EIRE> shiester_miester, no sound
[12:45] <sa3atsky> ping doesnt work
[12:45] <sa3atsky> il check ifconfig -a
[12:45] <sa3atsky> brb
[12:45] <kbrooks> sa3atsky: how doesnt ping work
[12:45] <shiester_miester> go to system->preferences->sound and tell me what options exist under "sound playback"
[12:46] <sa3atsky> ok
[12:46] <sa3atsky> i supposedly have two devices
[12:46] <sa3atsky> eth1
[12:46] <sa3atsky> and eth1_avah
[12:46] <sa3atsky> when i try accessing eth1_avah it says there is no such device
[12:46] <Paddy_EIRE> shiester_miester, there are about 4 although none produce sound
[12:47] <Stevethepirate> Hey ppl.. on install i get "I/O error on fd0"
[12:47] <Stevethepirate> anyideas?
[12:47] <tuna-fish> anyone know how can I quickly (recursively) rename a lot of mixed case filenames to flatten them?
[12:47] <sa3atsky> ping just times out since theres no connection
[12:47] <shiester_miester> Paddy_EIRE, what sound card are you using?
[12:48] <Paddy_EIRE> shiester_miester, 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[12:48] <stefg> !intelhda
[12:48] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[12:49] <sa3atsky> any bright ideas for my network problem?
[12:49] <Buschi> brb
[12:50] <rmd_> my sound appears to have stopped working and i dont know where to begin.  it was working fine and now i cant even see the volume app in the sys tray (kubuntu)
[12:50] <sa3atsky> ok ill brb but ill come back later
[12:50] <sa3atsky> ubuntu sucks so far for me :P
[12:50] <sa3atsky> bye
[12:50] <wamty> do you know where can I find the trash in Ubuntu? I removed it by mistake from the panel
[12:50] <shiester_miester> rmd_, what types of sound devices are show in system->preferences->sound
[12:50] <Myrtti> wamty: just right click the panel
[12:51] <Paddy_EIRE> shiester_miester, so you cant help me
[12:51] <Myrtti> wamty: choose add to panel
[12:51] <Myrtti> wamty: and add the trash applet
[12:51] <shiester_miester> Paddy_EIRE, probably not.  ask the people in #alsa, they are VERY helpful and knowledgeable
[12:51] <rmd_> Intel ICH6 (DUPLEX)
[12:51] <shiester_miester> tell them that shiester_miester referred you for a special discount :P
[12:51] <rmd_> installed driver: Type 10: ALSA emulation
[12:51] <stefg> !intelhda
[12:52] <ubotu> For fixing your Intel HDA sound this page has useful information https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[12:52] <rmd_> ty
[12:52] <DgrMouse> what is the command to reset the vnc password on my vncserver?
[12:53] <Paddy_EIRE> why is ubuntu not marked unstable??
[12:53] <shiester_miester> Paddy_EIRE, marked where?
[12:54] <Paddy_EIRE> shiester_miester, when you are going to download and use it it should tell you that its not for work or production comps
[12:54] <shiester_miester> uhh..i use ubuntu for all my work
[12:54] <shiester_miester> its for pretty much anything you want to do with it that it is able to do
[12:55] <shiester_miester> i find it a lot more stable than windows is
[12:55] <Stevethepirate> Um... someone whats the command line flag, when installing kubuntu to disable looking for floppy drives?
[12:55] <`davo> anyone using kexi?
[12:55] <Paddy_EIRE> shiester_miester, yeah right ;)
[12:55] <Buschi> re
[12:55] <shiester_miester> yeah, right.  seriously
[12:55] <shiester_miester> im not joking, Paddy_EIRE :P
[12:55] <Buschi> shiester_miester, i'm back @ 800*600
[12:55] <shiester_miester> welcome back, Buschi
[12:56] <Paddy_EIRE> shiester_miester, funny seems there is alot of comedians that use linux
[12:56] <sangeetha> Hi could anybody tell me how to enable indic language printing support in firefox
[12:56] <Buschi> my xorg.conf read's like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23066/
[12:56] <shiester_miester> Paddy_EIRE, just because you have problems with it doesnt mean that /everyone/ has problems with it
[12:56] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: there is no 'vendor' which 'guarantees' you anything, because you paid for it
[12:56] <shiester_miester> im a web developer and programmer, and i do almost all of my work on ubuntu
[12:56] <Paddy_EIRE> shiester_miester, never have I had trouble with any windows version, simply you need to be linux/tech savvy to use ubuntu not win
[12:56] <sangeetha> could we enable that by adding patch
[12:56] <shiester_miester> yes, thats true
[12:57] <Paddy_EIRE> shiester_miester, seems everyone is
[12:57] <Distracted> ghey
[12:57] <shiester_miester> if you can write programs and build computers, use linux, if not, use windows / mac / etc
[12:57] <Zoiks> how can i change the media program that launches when I press the media button on my keyboard
[12:57] <sangeetha> Hi could anybody tell me how to enable indic language printing support in firefox
[12:57] <mjr> Paddy_EIRE, if you mean here, this is a support channel. People come to a support channel because they have problems.
[12:57] <shiester_miester> its definately biased towards people who are very tech-savvy
[12:57] <mjr> self-selection
[12:57] <stefg> !keytouc | Zoiks
[12:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about keytouc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:57] <stefg> !keytouch | Zoiks
[12:57] <ubotu> Zoiks: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts (Gnome) or "Input Actions" in KControl (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[12:57] <Myrtti> FUD radar beeps.
[12:58] <Bokeh> bs... i have about 100 people here using linux, about 50 of them know nothing more than how to click the big gnome icon and start openoffice. most of these people never installed windows themselves because they can't, yet they' re using ubuntu dapper on their desktop
[12:58] <shiester_miester> although you cant say that you have NEVER had any trouble with windows, Paddy_EIRE
[12:58] <Zoiks> stefg: that does not let you choose which media player to launch
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> mjr, i mean most ppl that i know that have tried linux in general.  shiester_miester oh so linux is for programmers I never seen that on the ubuntu site
[12:58] <shiester_miester> Bokeh, thats interesting
[12:58] <Zoiks> i want amarok not rythmbox
[12:58] <sangeetha>  Hi could anybody tell me how to enable indic language printing support in firefox
[12:58] <Paddy_EIRE> shiester_miester, not this extent no
[12:59] <stefg> Can 'the linux is great/linux sucks' debate move over to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[12:59] <shiester_miester> point taken, stefg
[12:59] <mjr> stefg, can't it rather die? ;] 
[12:59] <stefg> mjr: not unless bug #1 is solved
[12:59] <Dallas> Paddy_EIRE: non-tech-savvy people can use ubuntu
[01:00] <wols_> Paddy_EIRE: ubuntu is designed for "normal" people, not programmers
[01:00] <Dallas> But if you want it to work on something that it's not released with (ie: new DELL pcs) you may have to be able to read...
[01:00] <Dallas> I'd say ubuntu is very welcoming to those of all types
[01:00] <Zoiks> stefg: so my media key works but it does not call the application
[01:01] <Dallas> I'm a programmer and, previously, an avid windows user
[01:01] <stefg> Zoiks: so it's likely a configuration for keytouch that's got to be changed
[01:01] <wols_> but just like windows, it sometimes has problems. windows has the advantage that every manufacturere will fix problems then out of self interest. ubuntu and other linux distros rarely have that luxury
[01:01] <Dallas> I decided to give ubuntu another try
[01:01] <stefg> Can 'the linux is great/linux sucks' debate move over to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[01:01] <Myrtti> time for the non-support stuff to move to -offtopic
[01:01] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[01:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:01] <wols_> which means practically, linuxes like ubuntu are "less compatible"
[01:01] <Myrtti> thank you
[01:01] <Paddy_EIRE> Dallas, wols_ not according to shiester_miester <shiester_miester> if you can write programs and build computers, use linux, if not, use windows / mac / etc
[01:02] <shiester_miester> Dallas, cmon.  stop hitting the dead horse :P
[01:02] <Frogzoo> sa3atsky: does the nic show in 'ifconfig -a'
[01:02] <shiester_miester> jeez guys.  give it a rest
[01:02] <Dallas> Paddy_EIRE: take it elsewhere
[01:02] <Dallas> I'm not interested, either =)
[01:02] <wols_> Paddy_EIRE: that's his opinion
[01:02] <Paddy_EIRE> Dallas, i have already you answered me
[01:02] <Morrissey> Hi. I was wondering ... is it possible to make if-sentences in .xbindkeysrc ? like: "if (amarok not started) do start amarok else press play" ... wich scripting language is it?
[01:02] <Paddy_EIRE> ??? :S
[01:02] <sangeetha>  Hi could anybody tell me how to enable indic language printing support in firefox
[01:02] <Buschi> can someone help me? me xorg.conf seems to be ignored... :(
[01:03] <jrib> Morrissey: I don't think so, but make the key run a script that does the checking
[01:03] <Morrissey> sangeetha, yesh ... thank jo! Com Aggan!
[01:03] <Morrissey> jrib, oh of course ... could write the script in python
[01:03] <orbin> Buschi: by whom/what?
[01:03] <Paddy_EIRE> Buschi, did you try deleting the "800x600" entry in xorg.conf so that it has to use the one you specify
[01:04] <Buschi> orbin: by X/KDE....
[01:04] <Buschi> Paddy_EIRE, it reads like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23066/
[01:04] <Dallas> Anyone know if xchat is capable of utilizing php code for scripts?
[01:04] <sangeetha> Morrissey, could you tell me how to enable indic language printing support in firefox
[01:04] <Buschi> there is no 800*600 modeline, but it starts in 800*600
[01:05] <Morrissey> sangeetha, yesh ... ok .... thank jo! Com Aggan!
[01:05] <egat> hey all. im using the alternate cd to install after a few problems with the other one, im up to the screen which asks which kernel to install. could you offer any advice?
[01:05] <Paddy_EIRE> Buschi, that is one odd xorg.conf
[01:05] <deus> My boot is stock
[01:05] <Bokeh> recommended is to pick the install
[01:06] <deus> full
[01:06] <deus> my boot partition that is
[01:06] <Paddy_EIRE> Buschi, I dont think that you need horiz/vert rates after every line though
[01:06] <Bokeh> which options does it give egat?
[01:06] <deus> can i delete all the content of the boot partition then run the boot setup program?
[01:06] <Dallas> Any PHP programmers here have preference toward any IDE for developing?
[01:06] <sangeetha> Morrissey, why are telling like this
[01:06] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: that's a custom xorg.conf generated by the nvidia-settings tool
[01:07] <egat> Bokeh: it gives  'linux-generic', 'linux-image-generic', 'linux-image-2.6.20-15-generic' and 'none'
[01:07] <Paddy_EIRE> strange
[01:07] <shiester_miester> Dallas, i use notepad++
[01:07] <shiester_miester> IDEs are overrated, imo
[01:07] <Morrissey> jrib, hm ... something like: "if (ps aux | grep amarokapp == ?) ?
[01:07] <onats> hi, my ubuntu installation "feels" slow... how do you tweak the OS?
[01:07] <shiester_miester> i use notepad++ for all my programming :P asp, c++, vb, c#, everything
[01:07] <Tom47> !tweak
[01:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tweak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:07] <Dallas> Well, I like to use something to manage files and upload/download
[01:07] <kbrooks> Morrissey: that is not how it works.
[01:08] <shiester_miester> Dallas, how about an ftp client?
[01:08] <kbrooks> Morrissey: you really want, in your case:
[01:08] <stefg> onats: that's along the lines of 'my head aches, anyone knows why' ? :-)
[01:08] <Morrissey> hehe, kbrooks ... exacly ;) Do you have any clues?
[01:08] <Dallas> No auto-save with FTP client =P
[01:08] <hylje> hm
[01:08] <shiester_miester> why do you need that?
[01:08] <Dallas> Saves time
[01:08] <jrib> Morrissey: could just use "pgrep"
[01:08] <hylje> my network seems to drop rather randomly
[01:08] <shiester_miester> make changes > upload file > refresh in browser
[01:08] <onats> wow, is beryl included in feisty fawn?
[01:08] <hylje> could this be a DHCP problem?
[01:08] <shiester_miester> onats, no its not
[01:08] <babis85> hello, after an update in feisty (i don't remember the updates), the system doesn't boot and doesn't load any drivers and services. After showing the ubuntu logo and the load bar then shows to messages
[01:08] <kbrooks> onats: no
[01:08] <Dallas> If I were only editing a single file, sure.
[01:08] <protocol1_> how do I go about testing opengl
[01:09] <babis85> 1) Reading files needed to boot
[01:09] <hylje> protocol1_: glxgears
[01:09] <Dallas> But when I'm developing a site for a client... that's not exactly efficient
[01:09] <babis85> 2) setting preliminary keymap
[01:09] <protocol1_> I have the propietary drivers
[01:09] <kbrooks> onats: compiz, but compiz it is STILL beta.....
[01:09] <onats> shiester, the cube thing is already included in it tho...
[01:09] <onats> ahhh so its compiz...
[01:09] <kbrooks> onats: not everyone has 3d cards remember
[01:09] <shiester_miester> Dallas, if you are familiar with software development you shouldnt need an IDE to manage your project for you :P although i agree it saves  time
[01:09] <onats> kbrooks, right...
[01:09] <babis85> sorry if i am bringing up an already mentioned issue, but i didn't find any info about it in ubuntu forums
[01:09] <Dallas> I don't need it, I want it.
[01:09] <kbrooks> onats: and it doesn't work perfectly on all computers.
[01:10] <Dallas> I can ssh to the server and nano files individually
[01:10] <onats> kbrooks, in my case there are actually some pixels that are left after the visualizations...
[01:10] <shiester_miester> although i don't know of any PHP-specific IDEs.  id be interested in trying one out if there was one
[01:10] <Dallas> Or, I can have the 10-20 different files I'm working with open simultaneously
[01:10] <Bokeh> egat: they' re all the same :)
[01:10] <Dallas> ZDE is php-specific
[01:10] <babis85> any ideas?
[01:10] <Dallas> It's bloated with shit like PHP-debugging that I don't use.. like you said... save and F5 in your browser
[01:10] <Bokeh> linux-generic is the same name for the 2.6.20-15, same goes for linux-image-generic
[01:11] <shiester_miester> Dallas, notepad++ can have heaps of stuff open at once
[01:11] <Dallas> But I just close out those panels on installation
[01:11] <onats> i have an ATI vid card, but the maximum resolution that's being shown in the resolutions is just 1024... anyone know how to fix this?
[01:11] <shiester_miester> notepad++ is to notepad what photoshop is to ms-paint
[01:11] <Dallas> Does it support sftp?
[01:11] <Bokeh> that feature is just added if you make your own install cd's and want to be able to use multiple kernels
[01:11] <shiester_miester> no, its a text editor
[01:11] <stefg> !fixres | onats
[01:11] <ubotu> onats: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:11] <egat> bokeh: really? wow. seems a bit silly to give them as options then. or are they all the same for beginners like me?:P
[01:11] <shiester_miester> but a text editor with lots of features
[01:11] <Dallas> Yeah, that's one of the main things I'm looking for
[01:11] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[01:11] <egat> bokeh: thanks for the help
[01:11] <onats> stefg, thanks
[01:12] <koshari> quicker way to restart x is cont alt backspace
[01:12] <Bokeh> egat: alternate is not really a cd for beginners :)
[01:12] <blackjackel> anyone in here use ICEWM?
[01:12] <kbrooks> Dallas: is notepad++ a linux editor too?
[01:12] <Dallas> shiester_miester: thanks anyhow
[01:12] <shiester_miester> im a web developer too and i just use that.  if youve documented your work then you shouldnt have any trouble with what you are doing
[01:12] <Bokeh> but yeah, it is slightly silly
[01:12] <Dallas> kbrooks: I'm guessing it is
[01:12] <shiester_miester> ill take a look at ZDE though
[01:12] <krinns> hi all
[01:12] <stefg> !anyone | blackjackel
[01:12] <Tom47> shiester_miester: 7 php ide's compared http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-php-ide/index.html
[01:12] <krinns> any one works on SRSS
[01:12] <ubotu> blackjackel: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:12] <egat> bokeh: not a total beginner...experienced enough to know that im not experienced enough :)
[01:12] <shiester_miester> kbrooks, notepad++ is for windows, i just run it in wine
[01:12] <kbrooks> Dallas: well, you don't know that :-)
[01:12] <Dallas> ahh... eww =/
[01:13] <shiester_miester> thanks tom
[01:13] <kbrooks> shiester_miester: ah
[01:13] <shiester_miester> eww?
[01:13] <Dallas> lol
[01:13] <shiester_miester> whats wrong with wine? its a wonderful software
[01:13] <rmd_> okay, so the new kernel image breaks intel sound, at least on kubuntu machines
[01:13] <kbrooks> Dallas: why is wine ewww to you?
[01:13] <blackjackel> Alright, I am looking to install "icepref" and "iceme" packages, but i get "Package icepref is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[01:13] <blackjackel> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[01:13] <blackjackel> is only available from another source
[01:13] <blackjackel> "
[01:13] <Dallas> mem/cpu usage of it bothers me
[01:13] <Dallas> Don't get me wrong, I LOVE wine =)
[01:13] <Bokeh> the reason it shows 3 things is because you can install a kernel by giving it's explictit version, by saying "i want to install the latest kernel" or by saying "just install a kernel"
[01:13] <Dallas> Sometimes it seems to hog resources, though
[01:13] <shiester_miester> yeah but for simple things like notepad++ the cpu usage is very low
[01:13] <Bokeh> and on the install cd it will find all those 3 versions, and thus give them all as options to install
[01:13] <hypn0> shiester_miester: you can't find a native editor in linux :-O
[01:13] <kbrooks> Dallas: also, and i'll just point out, _wine is not a emulator_
[01:14] <shiester_miester> hypn0, a native editor for what?
[01:14] <kritzstapf> too much wine can make you feel sick
[01:14] <thomax_>  are there .deb packages released for lame 3.97 ?
[01:14] <shiester_miester> lol @ kritz
[01:14] <Dallas> kbrooks:  thanks for giving me the recursive backronym
[01:14] <egat> thanks
[01:14] <stefg> !info liblame
[01:14] <hypn0> nopad is an editor shiester_miester isn't it :-/
[01:14] <ubotu> Package liblame does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:14] <Bokeh> wine is not an emulator, but 99% of its users don't really give a damn
[01:14] <Bokeh> :P
[01:14] <Dallas> Well, ZDE is JAVA... which may or may not be much better for you
[01:14] <shiester_miester> notepad++? yeah it is
[01:14] <kbrooks> kritzstapf: (in your statement) yes, but wine doesn't emulate
[01:14] <thomax_> !info liblame
[01:14] <shiester_miester> jeez we all know that wine isnt an emulator ok
[01:14] <stefg> !info liblame0
[01:14] <kritzstapf> kbrooks: i didnt say it emulates
[01:14] <ubotu> liblame0: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 185 kB, installed size 456 kB
[01:15] <shiester_miester> this channel is FULL of dead horses that everyone likes to beat up on
[01:15] <Dallas> lol
[01:15] <kbrooks> shiester_miester: dead horses? :O
[01:15] <Dallas> !wine | shiester_miester
[01:15] <ubotu> shiester_miester: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:15] <shiester_miester> -
[01:15] <shiester_miester> -_-
[01:15] <Dallas> =P
[01:15] <shiester_miester> yes dallas, i know
[01:15] <hypn0> shiester_miester: there are lots of editors, you don't need to run them in wine :-)
[01:15] <shiester_miester> i know, i just like notepad++ specifically
[01:15] <kbrooks> ... rather, it is a __compatibility__ layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux
[01:15] <stefg> thomax_: so no official package, you need to either build yourself or find any unofficial packages
[01:15] <onats> does lspci list AGP cards?
[01:16] <ralph> #join: ubuntu-nl
[01:16] <Dallas> I used ubuntu about 2-3 years ago... I switched back because wine wasn't advanced enough
[01:16] <shiester_miester> it goes beyond just plain old text editing and offers lots of great features
[01:16] <onats> !agp
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about agp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <ralph> join #ubuntu-nl
[01:16] <Dallas> !offtopic | Dallas
[01:16] <Tom47> ralph /join
[01:16] <kbrooks> Dallas: what did you want to run?
[01:16] <ralph> thanks
[01:16] <kbrooks> Dallas: also...
[01:16] <shiester_miester> hypn0, if you can find an editor that exceeds the features offered by notepad++, i would be very grateful :P
[01:16] <Dallas> People are highlighting me
[01:16] <kbrooks> !botabuse | Dallas
[01:16] <ubotu> Dallas: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[01:16] <Dallas> Like whoa
[01:16] <kbrooks> !msgthebot | Dallas
[01:16] <sacater> meep
[01:17] <sacater> darn wrong channel yet again, stupid irssi split screen
[01:17] <hypn0> shiester_miester: you tried http://geany.uvena.de/ ?
[01:17] <Paddy_EIRE> is there anyone who can help me get sound working again, already tried in alsa only to find ppl who dont know
[01:17] <koshari> what does notepad++ do thats out of the ordiary
[01:17] <Dallas> I was actually just trying to get the bot to tell me the offtopic channel
[01:17] <Dallas> =)
[01:17] <cbs> how do I completely remove all beryl related settings and desktop enhancements?
[01:17] <kbrooks> Dallas: so msg the bot for that
[01:17] <Tom47> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:17] <Dallas> shh
[01:17] <CheshireViking> Dallas, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:17] <Dallas> Holy crap
[01:17] <shiester_miester> hypn0, no i havent
[01:18] <hypn0> you can get a deb from http://www.getdeb.net/ shiester_miester
[01:18] <shiester_miester> Paddy_EIRE, if the #alsa guys dont know, i dont think anybody here does
[01:18] <kbrooks> Dallas: :-)
[01:18] <koshari> cbs just remove beryl and emerald in synaptic
[01:18] <Dallas> How can I disable ipv6 support on my ubuntu server?
[01:18] <Paddy_EIRE> shiester_miester, speeking for yourself
[01:18] <stefg> !ipv6
[01:18] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[01:18] <shiester_miester> who else can i speak for?
[01:18] <Tom47> Paddy_EIRE: i usually see crimsun fielding this subject
[01:19] <stefg> haha... good one
[01:19] <Paddy_EIRE> Tom47, yeah he gave me a script to run and left
[01:19] <Tom47> Paddy_EIRE: you could try looking at these if not done already !sound
[01:19] <Tom47> !sound
[01:19] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[01:20] <shiester_miester> hypn0, this geany software looks quite good
[01:20] <cbs> koshari: when I removed them, all the effects stayed
[01:20] <Zoiks> sooo who wants to solve my impossible to solve ipod problem :)
[01:21] <cbs> get a zune.
[01:21] <cbs> problem solved. :)
[01:21] <Dallas> lol
[01:21] <Dallas> my iPod seems to work =P
[01:21] <Dallas> I didn't even know if it would
[01:21] <cbs> macintosh sold out hella bill gates style
[01:21] <Dallas> But it magically worked =P
[01:21] <shiester_miester> Zoiks, that sounds like a challenge :P
[01:22] <shiester_miester> Dallas, it will work on anything that supports usb drives if you get the software for it to circumvent itunes
[01:22] <shiester_miester> well, i think so anyway :P
[01:22] <Zoiks> shiester_miester: about 4 people have given it a crack so far
[01:22] <cbs> you have to hack the firmware in your ipod
[01:22] <Dallas> Rhythmbox handles my iPod just fine
[01:22] <Zoiks> so please go for gold
[01:22] <cbs> koshiro: ?
[01:22] <shiester_miester> and mine
[01:22] <Zoiks> its not so much what program
[01:22] <shiester_miester> although i have an ipod shuffle
[01:23] <Zoiks> its getting ubuntu to mount it
[01:23] <Zoiks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2739499
[01:23] <cbs> unix-fu manages my media :P
[01:23] <shiester_miester> ah, well then i have no idea
[01:23] <salinux> hello ubuntu comunity
[01:23] <fuzzy_logic> hello salinux :)
[01:23] <cbs> Hail messenger from SaLinux!
[01:23] <cbs> haha
[01:23] <Dallas> Disabling ipv6 didn't seem to speed up my sshd accepting time
[01:24] <neopsyche> ok.. people.. i have a business associate coming over in about 40 minutes
[01:24] <neopsyche> I need to get a file from linux to windows!!!
[01:24] <Dallas> neopsyche: upload it to an httpd and download it on your windows machine =P
[01:24] <Paddy_EIRE> neopsyche, you have ntfs write enabled
[01:24] <Dallas> easiest a quickest way, I'm sure =P
[01:24] <Dallas> and*
[01:24] <shiester_miester> neopsyche, download the ntfs configuration tool
[01:24] <shiester_miester> easy as that
[01:24] <cbs> meopsyche: use a cd man
[01:25] <Dallas> or a nerd-stick
[01:25] <kbrooks> too many choices for neopsyche
[01:25] <Dallas> lol
[01:25] <cbs> yay for nerdstix
[01:25] <shiester_miester> i think he wants real answers, people
[01:25] <Dallas> He's going to implode
[01:25] <neopsyche> over FTP!
[01:25] <salinux> buon giorno a tutti sono appena approdato a ubuntu company e mi sento liberooooo.
[01:25] <kbrooks> can we please clarify what neopsyche has?
[01:25] <cbs> well he hasnt given us any details
[01:25] <CheshireViking> neopsyche, simplest way, copy it to a usb key/cd/floppy, of install ntfs-3g in ubuntu, or look at ext2fs in windows,
[01:25] <shiester_miester> this isnt #ubuntu-comedy-support
[01:25] <Dallas> This isn't even #ubuntu-support
[01:25] <Dallas> =P
[01:25] <shiester_miester> jeez u dont need to put it on any removable media.  just install the ntfs config tool and thats it
[01:26] <Paddy_EIRE> so are all problems with ubuntu so difficult to fix..? is there a roll back driver option?
[01:26] <cbs> salinux you want ubuntu-italian
[01:26] <cbs> #ubuntu-italian
[01:26] <kbrooks> neopsyche: if you want decent help, give us SOME details.
[01:26] <Tom47> !it
[01:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:26] <neopsyche> i have one good optoin
[01:26] <neopsyche> through network
[01:26] <neopsyche> through router
[01:26] <neopsyche> internet is running too slow to uplaod
[01:26] <neopsyche> and then dl
[01:26] <salinux> Scusatemi ma a stento leggo qualcosa in Inglese
[01:26] <CheshireViking> !it | salinux
[01:26] <neopsyche> using xp home
[01:26] <ubotu> salinux: please see above
[01:26] <ompaul> !paste|  neopsyche
[01:26] <ubotu> neopsyche: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:26] <neopsyche> got router ./ switch running 3 pcs
[01:26] <kbrooks> wow lag
[01:27] <cbs> haha who says 'lag' on irc?
[01:27] <shiester_miester> neopsyche, its very, very easy to install the ntfs drivers and config tool
[01:27] <shiester_miester> they are a very small download
[01:27] <kbrooks> cbs: um, crazy dudes like me?
[01:27] <CheshireViking> neopsyche, try installing ext2fs on windows xp, that'll give you read/write(?) access from your ubuntu partition within windows
[01:27] <cbs> o
[01:27] <kbrooks> everyone, please
[01:27] <dav7> oops
[01:27] <aa^way> how to delete everything in folder?
[01:28] <aa^way> cqant do sudo rmdir folder, says its not empty
[01:28] <kbrooks> can we please let ourselves wait for some more sensible answer from neopsyche
[01:28] <neopsyche> ...................
[01:28] <ompaul> aa^way, rm -rf target
[01:28] <cbs> ./format C:
[01:28] <Paddy_EIRE> is it possible to roll back a driver in ubuntu
[01:28] <shiester_miester> lol
[01:28] <shiester_miester> we overloaded him with support and he passed out
[01:28] <cbs> it is? paddy, how?
[01:28] <ompaul> cbs, you are offtopic please stop
[01:29] <aa^way> ompaul: thanks
[01:29] <cbs> sorry, morning feisties coming out
[01:29] <kbrooks> cbs: read carefully, he didn't say "it's"
[01:29] <Dallas> shiester_miester: want to join #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[01:29] <kbrooks> cbs: he said "is it ...?", thereby asking a question.
[01:29] <shiester_miester> what for? :/
[01:29] <shiester_miester> i wasnt discussing anything
[01:29] <ompaul> kbrooks, sssshhhhhhh
[01:29] <Dallas> Was going to ask you about your web development portfolio
[01:29] <Dallas> =)
[01:30] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[01:30] <shiester_miester> sure
[01:30] <shiester_miester> or just pm me
[01:30] <ompaul> !offtopic
[01:30] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[01:30] <kbrooks> shiester_miester: oh and maybe try highlighting :-)
[01:30] <shiester_miester> with crayola highlighters?  i hear they're the best
[01:30] <ompaul> !enter | shiester_miester
[01:30] <ubotu> shiester_miester: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:30] <kbrooks> shiester_miester: *laughs* no.
[01:31] <shiester_miester> :'(
[01:31] <Paddy_EIRE> can a driver be rolled back in ubuntu similar to windows
[01:31] <kbrooks> Paddy_EIRE: no.
[01:31] <kbrooks> Paddy_EIRE: not that i know anyway
[01:31] <cbs> you want #low-tech-crayon-interface
[01:31] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, no, you can only go forwrad
[01:31] <Paddy_EIRE> kbrooks, that should be put in the next release
[01:31] <radium> does anyone know how to set the resolution higher? it tops at 1152x864 under system preferences. i want to set it to 1280x1024. i'm using an ati radeon 9800xt. thanks
[01:32] <bobbob1016> I upgraded my kernel the other day through the updater, and now any time I do a VM, Paralles, or Qemu, my system gets slow, as in the mouse moves choppy and everything, any ideas?
[01:32] <Tom47> Paddy_EIRE: perhaps you could describe the problem and what you wanat to do
[01:32] <IdleOne> cbs, funny but annoying. try helping or be quiet
[01:32] <cbs> ok sry
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> Tom47, get sound working
[01:32] <kbrooks> Paddy_EIRE: oh, really? well, i'll say my opinion: it shouldn't be. :-)
[01:32] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: drivers are integral parftes of the kernel. so 'rolling back a driver' means: 'boot the previous kernel'
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> kbrooks, why??
[01:32] <Paddy_EIRE> kbrooks, make things even harder
[01:33] <kbrooks> Paddy_EIRE: see above what stefg said
[01:33] <Paddy_EIRE> kbrooks, stefg bad system me thinks
[01:33] <aa^way> hey, does apt-get support some IDE?
[01:33] <Paddy_EIRE> windows handles driver roll back like a snap
[01:33] <kbrooks> Paddy_EIRE: ubuntu didn't write "Linux"
[01:34] <koshari> radium you need to run dpkg reconfigure xorg ect ect
[01:34] <shiester_miester> lol @ kbrooks answer.  ftw
[01:34] <radium> thanks koshari. i'll try that.
[01:34] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE, you need to get your base system unbroken
[01:34] <kbrooks> Paddy_EIRE: you must realize that Ubuntu is not Windows. If it were in any way designed to look like windows, many people would write it off as a totally useless Windows clone.
[01:35] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: so be welcome to install Vista if you don't like it... Linux is not windows, and there's a number of good reasons why it is that way 8that are probably beyoond your scope)
[01:35] <Tom47> aa^way thats an interesting way of asking that question ... apt-get is simply a means of retreiving and installing applications from repositories .... do you mean is there an IDE supported in ubuntu?
[01:35] <koshari> raduim the exact line is in the xorg.conf file at the top in the comments
[01:35] <Bokeh> *cough*TROLL*cough*
[01:35] <Paddy_EIRE> stefg, great way to sell it ;)
[01:35] <ompaul> Paddy_EIRE,  it is an alternative not a replacement
[01:35] <aa^way> Tom47: im not sure, i am using default receivnig servers, can i get some IDE with apt-get? I know there is a IDES in ubuntu but i really love the apt-get installing system
[01:35] <Tom47> aa^way usually when i want to answer that question i use synaptic and do searches and look at package descriptions there
[01:35] <kbrooks> Paddy_EIRE: by "many people", I'll just note that "many" would be the size of this ubuntu channel.
[01:35] <F0O> hi, where is the shortcut to enable desktop effects in kubuntu?
[01:35] <cbs> paddy_EIRE: Guess what? Ubuntu doesnt NEED driver rollback.
[01:36] <stefg> Paddy_EIRE: see.... there is no selling on FOSS. only the decision to use it
[01:36] <ompaul> F0O, drop into #ubuntu-effects
[01:36] <Paddy_EIRE> cbs, guess what it does in this case
[01:36] <F0O> 10x.
[01:36] <kbrooks> cbs: i'm wondering, why doesn't ubuntu need driver rollback?
[01:36] <sinkorswim> i installed kubuntu-desktop to try kde, I didn't like it so I uninstalled the package but all the kde apps are still on my system, how can I remove them?
[01:37] <IdleOne> sinkorswim, one at a time
[01:37] <Bokeh> kbrooks: because you can install 2 kernels next to eachother
[01:37] <IdleOne> sudo apt-get remove packagename
[01:37] <lozzy> Are there any *supported* ways of doing a full system upgrade by CLI?
[01:37] <Bokeh> when your new kernel doesn't work, you reboot, choose the old kernel, and presto.
[01:37] <bobbob1016> I upgraded my kernel the other day through the updater, and now any time I do a VM, Parallels (the Linux version, Ubuntu is the main OS), or Qemu, my system gets slow, as in the mouse moves choppy and everything, any ideas?
[01:37] <giri> any1 here
[01:37] <Bokeh> lozzy: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:37] <rapid> howto install ssh server
[01:37] <rapid> please
[01:38] <sinkorswim> IdleOne: doesn't seem worth the trouble!
[01:38] <sinkorswim> thanks
[01:38] <ompaul> rapid, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:38] <nuu> sinkorswim: what does apt-get autoremove say ?
[01:38] <lozzy> Bokeh: I read on the forums and on the webby that it isn't advisable.. is that not the case?
[01:38] <Bokeh> it's not advisable, but it never gave me problems :)
[01:38] <rapid> ompaul merci
[01:38] <lozzy> okay, cool.
[01:38] <Bokeh> you just need to know how to work around some issues like broken dependencies, sometimes they happen unfortunately
[01:38] <lozzy> That's no problem
[01:38] <stefg> bobbob1016: there migt be missing kernel modules for the new kernel. see the docs of your virtualizers how to set up the kernel modules again
[01:39] <Bokeh> you can also use aptitude from the command line i believe, but a dist-upgrade never gave me any issues
[01:39] <lozzy> cheers.
[01:39] <sinkorswim> nuu: I've never heard of that, I'll go have a look
[01:39] <lozzy> Also, is there a way of doing a 'base' Ubuntu install so I can stick OB and some other apps on top. GNOME isn't really to my tastes. :)
[01:40] <nuu> sinkorswim: use sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:40] <sinkorswim> nuu: "0 to remove"
[01:40] <stefg> !install | lozzy
[01:40] <ubotu> lozzy: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[01:40] <lozzy> cheers.
[01:40] <stefg> lozzy: your looking for a 'server-install' that means bare system, no X
[01:41] <lozzy> awesome, many thanks. :)
[01:41] <Hawkins> Does anyone have ideas why my Ubuntu is a massive CPU-user. Idling on desktop uses 4%, moving mouse gets it to 8% and opening a menu gives me 12% CPU usage and so on. Can't be normal (at least I hope so)
[01:42] <kritzstapf> Hawkins: ask top which progress is causing the load
[01:42] <askand> Can I shutdown any of these services; binfmt-su, festival, avahi-daemon, rsync, wacom-tool ?????????
[01:42] <jariep1_> hi all
[01:42] <Hawkins> kritzstapf, it's Xorg which uses most of the juice
[01:43] <Hawkins> Opening a web page in already open Firefox gets Xorg to go berzerk and use 100% CPU time for about 3-5s
[01:43] <stefg> Hawkins: desktop effects enabled?
[01:43] <Hawkins> stefg, Don't know, how I'll check it ?
[01:43] <Hawkins> I'm newbie to linux in general and have used about 8 hours now
[01:43] <los1> hello
[01:44] <los1> just got my ubuntu shiped from netherland
[01:44] <hypn0> Hawkins: don't you want your processor to be used at all?
[01:44] <stefg> Hawkins: they are disabled by default. What machine (cpu/memory/graphics) do you have there?
[01:44] <askand> Can I shutdown any of these services; binfmt-su, festival, avahi-daemon, rsync, wacom-tool ?
[01:45] <Tom47> los1 welcome ...
[01:45] <Hawkins> hypn0, I do want but I just hate that in normal usage like browsing in my freshly installed Ubuntu is roughly 5 times slower than my over 2 years installed messed up XP
[01:45] <bobbob1016> stefg, sorry, I had to step away for a minute, Parallels said I had to run a script for the new kernel, parallels-config, which I did, and it is still slow, not sure if I need anything for Qemu, I'll check
[01:45] <Tom47> !ask > los1
[01:45] <DgrMouse> Can someone assist in firewalls rules for port forwarding please?? I'm desperate...
[01:45] <bobbob1016> stefg, parallels was still slow after that
[01:45] <Hawkins> stefg, AMD Athlon64 3800+ / Kingston 2Gb 400Mhz RAM / ATI Radeon X850XT
[01:46] <CheshireViking> Hawkins, just looked on my laptop, cpu usgae with synaptic running in the backjground downloading updates, kopete runningm evolution checking for email & xchat running uses about 15-20% cpu time, if i move the mouse, it can jump to 40%+
[01:46] <Tmn> hi people
[01:46] <Tmn> got a question about ubuntu
[01:46] <stefg> Hawkins: what does glxinfo | grep direct tell? (use pastebin if there's more than 2 lines of output
[01:46] <Tmn> the 7.04 version, does it have ntfs-3g built in?
[01:46] <Hawkins> CheshireViking, OK so that's normal but how about any lag ? For example when I'm opening System menu it takes 1-2 seconds to actually open up
[01:47] <Enfirith> fi
[01:47] <Hawkins> stefg, it says: direct rendering: Yes
[01:47] <Tom47> !ntfs > Tmn
[01:47] <hypn0> Hawkins: you could turn off the menu icons, that speeds things up a little :-)
[01:47] <Tmn> !ntfs
[01:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:47] <CheshireViking> Hawkins, not sure about any lag & how long something takes to start, mine is fairly quick, almost instant
[01:48] <DgrMouse> Can someone assist in firewall rules for port forwarding please?
[01:48] <Hawkins> hypn0, I could do that but I honestly believe that there is something strange going on. Removing icons would be kind of disabling result now solving real issue
[01:49] <stefg> Hawkins: does glxinfo | grep Mesa give anythin?
[01:49] <askand> Can I shutdown any of these services; binfmt-su, festival, avahi-daemon, rsync, wacom-tool ?
[01:49] <Tom47> DgrMouse in what??
[01:49] <Revellion> askand: yes
[01:49] <Revellion> askand: just /etc/init.d/festival stop
[01:49] <Revellion> askand: and equiv for the rest
[01:49] <Revellion> except avahi
[01:49] <Revellion> which might be advisable to keep
[01:49] <moDumass> hey all, um, so update manager has a whole lotta kernel updates and stuff, if i do these updates am i going to have to reinstall the nvidia drivers?
[01:49] <blargh> 13:42:39 <   Oliver`> like when you typed startkeylogger or whatever
[01:49] <blargh> 13:42:43 <+    Dawai> yes
[01:49] <blargh> 13:42:46 <+    Dawai> like this
[01:49] <blargh> 13:42:47 <+    Dawai> DCC SEND STARTKEYLOGGER 4 4 4
[01:50] <blargh> 13:42:47 quit       < apache2!~ryan@c-71-56-222-183.hsd1.co.comcast.net [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 
[01:50] <blargh> 13:42:47 quit       < Ortzman!~ortzinato@cpe-065-191-147-198.nc.res.rr.com [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 
[01:50] <Hobbsee> !staff
[01:50] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[01:50] <Hawkins> CheshireViking, Yeah. That is the main problem. Everything is really sluggish like scrolling a web page, FF takes seconds to actually react to page down. I yesterday visited my friend who had installed Ubuntu on his 4 years old laptop and everything was _a alot_ quicker on his install even with using battery power
[01:50] <Tmn> Tom47: thx
[01:50] <stefg> Hawkins: does glxinfo | grep Mesa give anythin?
[01:50] <bobbob1016> I upgraded my kernel the other day through the updater, and now any time I do a VM, Parallels (the Linux version, Ubuntu is the main OS), or Qemu, my system gets slow, as in the mouse moves choppy and everything, any ideas?
[01:50] <hypn0> askand: I don't have festival, so I guess that's safe to turn off :-) that's a speech synthesiser isn't it
[01:51] <CheshireViking> Hawkins, not sure what to suggest, its not something i've ever had an issue with, maybe somebody else here can suggest something
[01:51] <budak> why even the lates ubuntu doesnt have apropiate driver for my nvidia 6600 256mb?
[01:51] <Hawkins> stefg, OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE2 TCL and on 2nd line OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 6.5.2
[01:51] <bobbob1016> I don't think there is anything special that Qemu or Parallels need to run after a kernel upgrade, Parallels won't run without me running the "parallels-config" script after an upgrade, but it is still slowing me down
[01:51] <Revellion> moDumass: do you use the nvidia drivers in repos?
[01:51] <stefg> Hawkins: i think your 3D acceleration isn't set up properly. You are using software emulation for 3D this is waht makes things so sluggish
[01:52] <timmyw29> hey fellas
[01:52] <Paddy_EIRE> ok, I rebooted to the previous kernel.. will ubuntu always reboot to this kernel in the future or do I have to choose each time from grub
[01:52] <cbs> how do I start a freeciv server once the server pkg is installed?
[01:52] <Hawkins> In here I found the same thing going on: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236083&highlight=high+idle+cpu+usage
[01:52] <bobbob1016> Paddy_EIRE, you have to tell grub to boot the older one
[01:52] <stefg> Hawkins: i'm no ati expert, but getting ati cards to work properly can be a bit of pain
[01:52] <timmyw29> does anyone have information on which flash plugin i'll need to use for 64-bit OS?
[01:53] <stefg> !ati | Hawkins
[01:53] <ubotu> Hawkins: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:53] <Paddy_EIRE> bobbob1016, each time???
[01:53] <Hawkins> stefg, OK then I need to find a way to get card in operation. Thank you for this. I'll try that link
[01:53] <kritzstapf> Paddy_EIRE: just once in the configuration
[01:53] <bobbob1016> Paddy_EIRE, no, calm down, extra question marks don't make a difference
[01:54] <CheshireViking> Paddy_EIRE, you should be able to change the boot order by modifying your grub file so that the kernel you want to use is selected first & automatically
[01:54] <Paddy_EIRE> bobbob1016, who feckin cares about question marks... get a life
[01:54] <Paddy_EIRE> CheshireViking, how so
[01:54] <timmyw29> trolling IRC: priceless
[01:54] <Buschi> re
[01:54] <CheshireViking> Paddy_EIRE, hold on, I'll need to check myself unless somebody else has an answer off the top of their head
[01:55] <bobbob1016> Paddy_EIRE, I do, I find them annoying, and when I have to erase the answer I was giving you to tell you this, I thought you would care
[01:55] <timmyw29> so, flash plugins for firefox with 64-bit linux, anyone know what i need to do?
[01:55] <bobbob1016> Paddy_EIRE, open a terminal, and type "sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"  you have three options, you can remove the options for the new kernel from there, or move the kernel you want to use to the top, or change the default to be the older kernel
[01:55] <Paddy_EIRE> bobbob1016, either help me or clear off :D
[01:55] <shiester_miester> timmyw29, theres a way to hack the installation to force it to work
[01:55] <tobiash> hi! i am noticing that since the change to the SATA drivers in feisty, a process called "ata/0" uses up to 70% cpu every 10-20 seconds, making the mouse cursor hang. can anyone point me to some help about that? googling for ata/0 doesnt bring up anything useful...
[01:55] <shiester_miester> although you might get some weird performance
[01:55] <bobbob1016> Paddy_EIRE, I was helping you, you need to calm down
[01:56] <Paddy_EIRE> bobbob1016, lack of sleep and a bad temper definitely gonna cause me to loose friends fast
[01:56] <DgrMouse> Can someone assist in firewall rules for port forwarding please?
[01:56] <Paddy_EIRE> sorry
[01:56] <shiester_miester> Paddy_EIRE, you were being snarky earlier too, you should seriously consider going and get some sleep and come back later
[01:56] <neopsyche> ok
[01:56] <neopsyche> i got some time
[01:56] <lozzy> I must be absolutely dense. I'm looking around the docs, but I can't find any stuff about doing a server-install from my Ubuntu CD. sorry if I'm overlooking something, but I just want to do a base install.
[01:56] <timmyw29> flash is well-supported... 64-bit is well-supported... you'd think 64-bit flash plugins would be well-supported.
[01:57] <neopsyche> guy is coming over in another 30 mins
[01:57] <neopsyche> i need to ftp file from linux to server on windows
[01:57] <Paddy_EIRE> bobbob1016, this will cause no harm
[01:57] <neopsyche> need to setup simple ftp server
[01:57] <shiester_miester> neopsyche, why are you doing it in such a roundabout way
[01:57] <neopsyche> without any complicated linux stuff
[01:57] <neopsyche> so i can use ftpg to windows
[01:57] <CaptainMorgan> !mta
[01:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:58] <CaptainMorgan> anyone recommend an MTA that is proven on Fiesty?
[01:58] <lozzy> !server
[01:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[01:58] <CheshireViking> Paddy_EIRE, have a look at this website, that should help you http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/77938-grub-kernel-boot-order.html
[01:58] <neopsyche> because i understand it
[01:58] <neopsyche> i dont understand linux
[01:58] <CaptainMorgan> so far, postfix and sendmail have bit the dust, either that or I'm an idiot
[01:58] <CaptainMorgan> oh, and also courier
[01:58] <fuzzy_logic> who's happy about the dell deal? :P
[01:59] <Paddy_EIRE> bobbob1016, if I put # in front of the kernels that I dont want to boot will that be as good as deleting the entries
[01:59] <bobbob1016> Paddy_EIRE, yes
[01:59] <genii> fuzzy_logic: If it means open-sourced Broadcom drivers I'm all for it
[01:59] <shiester_miester> neopsyche, installing the ntfs drivers arent complicated :P
[01:59] <Tom47> neopsyche try using System>Administration>Shared Folders
[02:00] <Paddy_EIRE> bobbob1016, so If a fix arises in the future for my probs with the .16 kernel it should be simple to get back in to it
[02:00] <Tom47> neopsyche and use the samba alternative
[02:01] <Fambu> I installed Ubuntu on my machine, but I don't recall what username/password I used and now I can't get into the system :-\
[02:01] <adaptr> Fambu boot up in recovery mode and reset password
[02:01] <bobbob1016> Paddy_EIRE, I don't think it will be a fix, just a newer kernel would have it, the drivers are part of the kernel, that is why there isn't a roll-back, the newer kernel might have a newer version of the driver that is better for your sound
[02:01] <CaptainMorgan> link: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ was junk for Feisty, missing key components and lots of stuff just didn't make sense
[02:01] <moDumass> revillion i think so, if not how would i check and enable?
[02:01] <neopsyche> ok
[02:01] <neopsyche> i plugged big drive into my linux box
[02:01] <neopsyche> using usb
[02:01] <neopsyche> 160gig
[02:01] <moDumass> sorry, revellion i think so, if not how would i check and enable?
[02:01] <neopsyche> now it says .. i dont have permission to write to drive
[02:02] <Tom47> Fambu reboot, select failsafe ... this will give you a root command line interface, then ise the command passwd
[02:02] <neopsyche> wtf!
[02:02] <Fambu> ise?
[02:02] <Paddy_EIRE> bobbob1016, oh, I see.  Is there a release schedule for kernels or are they just released whenever
[02:02] <Carnage\> use
[02:02] <Fambu> oh, use. so I just type passwd?
[02:02] <kritzstapf> neopsyche: is the drive ntfs-formatted?
[02:02] <Tom47> fambu just a sec
[02:03] <bobbob1016> Paddy_EIRE, I think there is a schedule, but I'm not sure, I don't think that ubuntu releases them right away, I think they test it a bit first
[02:03] <Paddy_EIRE> ok
[02:03] <kritzstapf> Fambu: boot recovery and type "passwd yourusername"
[02:03] <Tom47> fambu assuming you are the user the it will be passwd fambu
[02:03] <neopsyche> Tom47: now it says i dont have permission to write to drive
[02:03] <cbs> anyone up for a game of freeciv? join my server, its the odd looking one on the list. says (default)
[02:03] <kritzstapf> neopsyche: is the drive ntfs-formatted?
[02:03] <Paddy_EIRE> nice one thx for that, just a pitty the newer kernel is wrong for me
[02:03] <neopsyche> yeah ntfs or fat 32
[02:03] <Myrtti> if you need to know your username, you can get it by typing "ls /home" without the quotes
[02:04] <kritzstapf> neopsyche: type mount on a terminal and paste the line that refers to your drive please
[02:04] <Fambu> perfect, thanks :)
[02:04] <Balachmar> l
[02:04] <neopsyche> hmm
[02:04] <tawooh> question: my computer freezes up on exiting, World of Warcraft, i used xkill to close the program, but now my resolution is friggin huge, how do i fix this problem with the Hal draw program that renders WoW??
[02:05] <CaptainMorgan> anyone? anybody got an MTA to work? have one running? recommend the easiest one? etc.etc.t
[02:05] <neopsyche> hangon
[02:05] <adaptr> CaptainMorgan install postfix and answer a few easy questions, done
[02:05] <CaptainMorgan> adaptr, not quite
[02:05] <sa3atsky> hi, i have a huge problem with my network
[02:05] <sa3atsky> it doesnt work and i almost tried everything
[02:05] <CaptainMorgan> find that link i posted above, that was a total failure
[02:06] <CaptainMorgan> link: http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/ was junk for Feisty, missing key components and lots of stuff just didn't make sense
[02:06] <adaptr> CaptainMorgan then rephrase the question to something that resembles what you actually mean
[02:06] <sa3atsky> look at this post its got my pci and network details
[02:06] <sa3atsky> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2740948#post2740948
[02:06] <sa3atsky> thanks
[02:06] <CaptainMorgan> adaptr, which question??
[02:06] <neopsyche> why must i type mount
[02:06] <neopsyche> its already mounted
[02:06] <kritzstapf> neopsyche: just to get the mounttable
[02:06] <CaptainMorgan> maybe you have missed my previous Q's
[02:06] <kritzstapf> to figure out which driver is used
[02:06] <adaptr> [2007-05-29 14:05]  <CaptainMorgan> anyone? anybody got an MTA to work? have one running? recommend the easiest one? etc.etc.t
[02:06] <CaptainMorgan> anyone recommend an MTA that is proven on Fiesty?
[02:06] <adaptr> THAT was your question
[02:06] <CaptainMorgan> so far, postfix and sendmail have bit the dust, either that or I'm an idiot
[02:06] <CaptainMorgan> oh, and also courier
[02:07] <adaptr> why would you want to run an MTA on a desktop system
[02:07] <adaptr> ?
[02:07] <kritzstapf> neopsyche: "mount | grep media" should get the line :)
[02:07] <neopsyche> kritzstapf: ??
[02:07] <CaptainMorgan> no, that was my question after I asked half a dozen
[02:07] <adaptr> well, then you're probably an idiot - millions of people run those MTAs quite successfully
[02:07] <kritzstapf> neopsyche: type "mount | grep media" in a terminal
[02:07] <CaptainMorgan> adaptr, the desktop system is an after the fact, it will have to stayu
[02:08] <neopsyche> dev/sda 1
[02:08] <neopsyche> :::?????
[02:08] <neopsyche> Nb
[02:08] <neopsyche> im typing on xp pc
[02:08] <neopsyche> so keep walking to other room to cange stuff
[02:08] <Hawkins> I got the ATI driver installed and CPU usage dropped really really much but my resolution dropped too and I can't get it back. glxgears gives error too and FPS is 1/10 of what I had when driver did not work
[02:08] <neopsyche> 20 minutes till meeting
[02:08] <adaptr> CaptainMorgan sudo aptitude install postfix dovecot procmail <- what more do you need ?
[02:08] <CaptainMorgan> adaptr, what is wrong with an MTA on a desktop? if it acts as a server?
[02:08] <neopsyche> kritzstapf: dev/sda1
[02:08] <neopsyche> ???
[02:08] <neopsyche> kritzstapf: ?
[02:08] <adaptr> CaptainMorgan well, nothing as such, just that neither the desktop nor the distribution were meant for that
[02:09] <kritzstapf> neopsyche: i need the word behind "type"
[02:09] <tawooh> how do i fix my screen resolution after dumping world of warcraft, cause it always freezes on me?? i don't want to have to restart my computer every time i play world of warcraft.
[02:09] <neopsyche> kritzstapf: N T F S~
[02:09] <neopsyche> kritzstapf: !!!
[02:09] <kritzstapf> neopsyche: the default ntfs-driver is not writing capable
[02:10] <kritzstapf> thats why youre getting permission denied
[02:10] <neopsyche> kritzstapf:  how do we sort it out?
[02:10] <neopsyche> kritzstapf: how do i sort it out?'
[02:10] <kritzstapf> !ntfs | neopsyche
[02:10] <ubotu> neopsyche: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:10] <kritzstapf> !ntfs-3g | neopsyche
[02:10] <ubotu> neopsyche: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[02:10] <neopsyche> uh
[02:10] <neopsyche> in 10 minutes
[02:10] <neopsyche> kritzstapf: uh in under ten minutes
[02:10] <budak> tawooh: use the quick reset might fastening up
[02:11] <tawooh> budak: huh?? explain that please, i am quite a linux noob if you will.
[02:11] <kritzstapf> neopsyche: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions#head-c067eb7e3cd4107cc08cdf30a9e1aed8adb02971 will help you
[02:11] <neopsyche> kritzstapf: does it come native?
[02:11] <shiester_miester> anyone here use eclipse?
[02:11] <budak> tawooh: ctr+alt+backspace  , can restart the X pretty fast
[02:11] <predaeus> shiester_miester, from time to time
[02:11] <kritzstapf> neopsyche: hum_
[02:11] <kritzstapf> ?
[02:12] <shiester_miester> predaeus,  is it worth the 144mb of space it takes up :P
[02:12] <shiester_miester> it looks good but thats pretty huge for an IDE
[02:12] <predaeus> shiester_miester, what do you want to develop? what language?
[02:12] <adaptr> CaptainMorgan perhaps if you tried #postfix and asked directed questions someone could be of help there.. just complaining "I can't get it to work so it must be broken" is not a sign of extraordinary intelligence
[02:12] <shiester_miester> php, asp, javascript, asp.net if possible
[02:12] <shiester_miester> but primarily php
[02:13] <CaptainMorgan> adaptr, no, it shows a lack of patience with shit documentation that is 'proven' to work
[02:13] <neopsyche> well
[02:13] <neopsyche> thanks for help
[02:13] <predaeus> shiester_miester, hm then I don't know, if you would have said java I'd have recommended it, but maybe there is something more lightweight for that combination. if you do java it is very powerful and practical.
[02:13] <err0r> can anyone tell me if ubuntu has support for sprint pcs aircards?
[02:13] <shiester_miester> i do some java too but not that much
[02:14] <err0r> namely i have a merlin S620
[02:14] <shiester_miester> i use netbeans for java mostly
[02:14] <shiester_miester> netbeans is a great ide
[02:14] <jaypro> how do i find the executable for a program that was installed using wine?
[02:14] <predaeus> shiester_miester, I just know that it is too slow for C/C++ at the moment.
[02:14] <Hawkins> What does this mean and how do I fix it: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". ?
[02:14] <predaeus> shiester_miester, find out if there is plugins for php and so on
[02:14] <shiester_miester> hmm
[02:14] <shiester_miester> actually i dunno if it runs on linux :S
[02:15] <tawooh> okay, now that my resolution is fixed, i have mounted a ntfs drive to my computer, and i don't have write priveledges, i know you were just talking about this, what was the help link??
[02:15] <adaptr> CaptainMorgan yes, it shows something like that, indeed - now, was there anything you wanted, or are you content to rave on impotently while not, actually, getting it to work ?
[02:15] <predaeus> shiester_miester, you mean netbeans? it does
[02:15] <shiester_miester> thats awesome
[02:15] <shiester_miester> :D thx
[02:15] <predaeus> you are welcome
[02:15] <shiester_miester> what IDE do you use for PHP?
[02:16] <shiester_miester> im still debating whether or not to use an IDE at all...but i figure it cant hurt
[02:16] <CaptainMorgan> adaptr, yes - I am intent on responding to folks who are impotently raving on talking to me. If you stop saying my name, I will gladly shut up.. busy
[02:16] <knoppix> i ran into errror 17 on XP after i uninstall Ubuntu. anyone kno easy way out?
[02:16] <ubuntu-user> to get ntfs-write support. try  http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
[02:17] <predaeus> shiester_miester, personally I don't do php yet. probably there is a #php where you could also ask
[02:17] <tawooh> okay, how bout this, how do i format my mounted ntfs drive so that it is compatible with linux so i don't need extra support to use it??
[02:17] <shiester_miester> yeah
[02:17] <ubuntu-user> you would loose all data. I hope u know that
[02:18] <knoppix> i ran into errror 17 on XP after i uninstalled Ubuntu. anyone kno easy way out?
[02:18] <tawooh> i understand this, just a few video files and music, nothing i'll miss
[02:18] <predaeus> tawooh, just use fat32 if you like to have windows support or use one of the 10+ in linux supported file systems
[02:18] <ubuntu-user> QTParted allows u to reformat
[02:19] <tawooh> Qtparted, how do i use this, is it a pkg or is it a command...
[02:19] <shiester_miester> dang, joining #php just sends me to #overflow :@
[02:19] <KUBUNTU_AFR> i ran into errror 17 on XP after i uninstall Ubuntu. anyone kno easy way out?
[02:19] <Dallas> shiester_miester: try #php on gamesurge
[02:19] <ubuntu-user> it is a graphical tool. I installed it throug synaptic.
[02:19] <predaeus> shiester_miester, did you try ##php   thats mostly for unofficial channels
[02:20] <shiester_miester> oh ok
[02:20] <shiester_miester> nope, same thing
[02:20] <shiester_miester> oh well
[02:20] <Dallas> shiester_miester: try #php on gamesurge =)
[02:20] <shiester_miester> ill just try it out myself and see if its any good
[02:20] <tawooh> okay, thanks for all you guy's help, see you in the movies...
[02:21] <tlili> #appa
[02:21] <ubuntu-user> well now i have a question,too :)   i think I removed the auth-keys for the software-sources and now synaptic tells me that the packets aren't authenticated. where can i find the keys to add them again ?
[02:21] <tlili> #appa
[02:21] <predaeus> shiester_miester, if you get eclipse, don't install the ubuntu repo package, it installs gnu java implementations that you probably don't want, you can jsut download eclipse from the website, run it and install any plugins through it interface. runs best on sun's java as far as I know. but normally install ubuntu packages folks.
[02:22] <danielDOM> Does anyone else have a problem opening .zip files in ubuntu ? ...
[02:22] <predaeus> danielDOM, nah
[02:22] <Dallas> nope
[02:22] <Dallas> Just unzipped a second ago, actually =P
[02:23] <danielDOM> well i've downloaded several different .zip files and i cant open a single one. Is ARK the only program available for opening .zip files? :\
[02:23] <predaeus> danielDOM, try unzip
[02:23] <Dallas> You can always go into terminal and type unzip filename.zip
[02:24] <danielDOM> unzip:  cannot find zipfile directory in one of WoW-2.0.0-enUS-Installer.zip or
[02:24] <danielDOM>         WoW-2.0.0-enUS-Installer.zip.zip, and cannot find WoW-2.0.0-enUS-Install
[02:24] <danielDOM> :\
[02:24] <Tom47> danielDOM Fileroller in gnome opens zip files for me
[02:24] <predaeus> danielDOM, do a "file filename" on your zip files to see what file type they are
[02:24] <danielDOM> Tom47, i use KDE
[02:25] <predaeus> "file" will tell
[02:25] <lozzy> is sudo more secure than root?
[02:25] <danielDOM> WoW-2.0.0-enUS-Installer.zip: 7-zip archive data, version 0.2
[02:25] <kritzstapf> wow, finally one can setup the channel controlled by the volume keys!
[02:25] <kritzstapf> when did that change happen? ;)
[02:26] <genii> "is sudo more secure than root"  short anser is yes
[02:26] <HiFructose> did anyone just update to the latest Feisty kernel and is having internet connection problems (cable)?
[02:27] <HiFructose> running the latest kernel seems to somehow bork up my internet connection
[02:27] <HiFructose> acquiring a DHCP lease and assgning an IP address, setting the route and resolv information _seems_ to be ok
[02:27] <HiFructose> i can not however get any connection
[02:27] <HiFructose> nothing works, not pinging, not tracerouting, no higher-level protocol-anything
[02:27] <danielDOM> Predaeus, any ideas? :\
[02:28] <ubuntu-user> i've accidentally removed the auth-keys from the synaptic-sources-management. now all packets are marked as "not authenticated". where can i download the keys to put them back into synaptic ?
[02:28] <kritzstapf> doesnt global shortcuts for amarok work when i use gnome?
[02:28] <ror> kritzstapf, they'll work
[02:28] <ror> work for me at least
[02:28] <predaeus> danielDOM, not sure if file roller or the kde equivalent should handle this by default, else try  package      p7zip-full - 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio    might be able to unzip this aswell
[02:29] <danielDOM> Predaeus, p7zip = a program ? sorry im kinda new to all this
[02:29] <predaeus> danielDOM, it is a package not sure what the program inside is called.
[02:29] <The-Doc> Hello
[02:30] <Funkah> Holle
[02:30] <ubuntu-user> the programm itelf on commandline is "7z"
[02:30] <danielDOM> Predaeus i have the package now via apt-get, how do i specify that program to open it rather than "unzip" ?
[02:30] <The-Doc> bye bye
[02:30] <The-Doc> see you
[02:30] <predaeus> danielDOM, open the Add/remove application and search for p7zip and install it then look for an application entry or try    p7<tab>  in a console to see to what application name it completes, then do "man applicationname" to see how you need to use it.
[02:31] <ubuntu-user> not "p7"... just "7z"
[02:31] <The-Doc> ok
[02:31] <dromer> aarg, I got another 2.5" hd, and again I'm unable to build a partition-table
[02:31] <The-Doc> c pas mal
[02:31] <The-Doc> hehe
[02:31] <dromer> can someone help me with this?
[02:31] <dromer> or is it because I got it hooked via usb?
[02:32] <enigma> dromer: you usging gparted?
[02:32] <danielDOM> 7z -e <filename> look about right ?
[02:33] <dromer> enigma: atm I tried fdisk
[02:33] <predaeus> danielDOM, if -e means extract it is probably right yes
[02:33] <ubuntu-user> i think without the hyphen "-"
[02:33] <predaeus> danielDOM, I did not read the manpages though.
[02:33] <enigma> dromer : I would use gparted, its a gui and easier to use
[02:33] <danielDOM> Hmm that didnt work , says incorrect command line
[02:34] <ubuntu-user> better user 7z x <file>   it will keep the inner folder-structure
[02:34] <dromer> enigma: with gparted I get: Unable to open /dev/sda - unrecognised disk label.
[02:34] <Hawkins> How can I get resolution I want to use while it doesn't show up in System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution ?
[02:34] <ubuntu-user> "x" instead of "e"
[02:34] <nomad111> hey all i encounter this problem when i go to compile pidgin: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:34] <enigma> dromer: if you prefer text you can use cfdisk, its a bit easier than fdisk
[02:34] <kritzstapf> how to define a keyboard shortcut for starting an application?
[02:34] <nomad111> any tips on what i can do
[02:34] <danielDOM> wewt ! that worked thanks a billion fellas
[02:34] <SlimeyPete> Hawkins: you need to hack your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:34] <dromer> enigma: none of them work
[02:35] <enigma> dromer: you used the option in the top right of gparted to switch disks?
[02:35] <danielDOM> well , sorta i think it froze heh
[02:35] <dromer> enigma: yes, I switched to /dev/sda
[02:35] <belgarath_> dromer   you need to be root to use cfdisk or fdisk
[02:35] <shiester_miester> always good to see someones problem solved :D
[02:35] <binskipy2u> hey guys.. anyone here know of distrowatch.com, you know the .deb column for todays date, is that the latest of ALL packages on the 7.o4 cd
[02:35] <binskipy2u> that will update to?
[02:35] <dromer> belgarath_: been there, done that, doesn't work
[02:35] <binskipy2u> if i install 7.04, how do i know how FAR packages will update to
[02:36] <__enigma__> dromer: when you are right clicking to make a partition, what is the error?
[02:36] <binskipy2u> is distrowatch a good indictation?
[02:36] <heffo> hawkins, gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:36] <tomix> no this isnt strictly ubuntu related but would be grand if someone could help. Im trying to capture stdout and stderr and pipe the results to the mail command;
[02:36] <dromer> __enigma__: you mean: new partition/ cntrl+n ?
[02:36] <heffo> hawkins, then find the part that shows resolutions and add the new resolution under depth 24
[02:37] <dromer> __enigma__: I need to set a disklabel .. it takes a while .. and then nothing happens
[02:37] <tomix> if [ "$?" != "0" ] ; then 2> | mail -s "IMPORTANT: Error on Cathy Cassidy database backup" tom@wearebeef.co.uk
[02:37] <ubuntu-user> need help: i've accidentally removed the auth-keys from the synaptic-sources-management. now all packets are marked as "not authenticated". where can i download the keys to put them back into synaptic ?  system is ubuntu 7.04
[02:37] <tomix> fi
[02:37] <__enigma__> dromer: yes
[02:37] <tomix> oop cue spam
[02:37] <danielDOM> Ubuntu_user, any idea why it freeze on the same file constantly ? :\
[02:37] <dromer> __enigma__: and in the console I started gparted from it says: Unable to open /dev/sda - unrecognised disk label.
[02:37] <binskipy2u> so anyone know where i can find out how FAR each package that is installed by default on fiesty will update to?
[02:37] <__enigma__> dromer: how long have you waited?  You remember you are over usb right?
[02:37] <ubuntu-user> what freezes ? 7z ?
[02:38] <danielDOM> Yes
[02:38] <danielDOM> It stops extracting
[02:38] <Lin> hi all! Ubuntu Feisty isn't starting WPA supplicant (yes it is correctly configured) on boot. But after a ifdown / ifup it starts. Any know bug / workaround? Im with the latest updates.
[02:38] <dromer> __enigma__: I wait untill the screen is cleared
[02:38] <ubuntu-user> maybe the files got corrupted. do you have an md5 sum to verify ?
[02:38] <Hawkins> heffo, I got it open and it shows: Modes		"1280x960"	"1024x768" under depth 24 but System->Preferences->Screen Resolution shows me these: 1024x768 / 960x720 / 864x648 / 800x600 / 640x480 ?
[02:38] <__enigma__> dromer: that is interesting...
[02:38] <danielDOM> Ubuntu-user, i dont even know what an md5 sum is ... lol
[02:38] <__enigma__> dromer: sorry I cant help then... Usually when I do it over a usb it takes about ten to fifteen min
[02:38] <dromer> !md5sum
[02:39] <ubotu> To verify the integrity of a download, use the md5sum - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM for more
[02:39] <livingtm> anyone else seeing problems after this mornings updates?
[02:39] <__enigma__> depending on usb1.0 or 2.0
[02:39] <heffo> hawkins, maybe it isnt under depth 24, are there any other depths that show those numbers?
[02:39] <dromer> __enigma__: depends on the size of the disk I guess, it's a  6gb disk
[02:39] <Hawkins> heffo, I had the resolution I wanted but my Ubuntu was extremely slow and it turned out that my graphics card wasn't working at all and now I got it working but resolution got screwed up in the process
[02:39] <dromer> __enigma__: but gparted can't read the disk label
[02:39] <belgarath_> dromer    do you want to set up a usb-disk or waht ?!
[02:39] <dromer> __enigma__: and can't set it's own disk label
[02:39] <Hawkins> heffo, There are no other depths
[02:40] <dromer> belgarath_: yes, I want to partition it
[02:40] <__enigma__> dromer: try to set it in fdisk to blank
[02:40] <ubuntu-user> the website where u downloaded the .zip should have a md5-checksum for the file. looks like "4b3d87a75....."
[02:40] <Hawkins> heffo, I'll put my xorg.conf into pastebin
[02:40] <heffo> Hawkins, okay, what graphics card are you running? and have you set up ubuntu to use your specific monitor?
[02:40] <dromer> __enigma__: how do I do that?
[02:41] <ubuntu-user>  on commandline u can do md5sum <filename.zip>   and compare it with the one on the website
[02:41] <__enigma__> dromer: pm
[02:41] <livingtm> i installed the security updates this morning, and during the restart I get the root prompt and a message "apt-get is not installed. type apt-get apt to install"
[02:41] <ubuntu-user> paradoxon ?
[02:42] <Hawkins> heffo, I'm using ATI Radeon X850XT and Ubuntu does not recognize my monitor. It's Samtron 96P 19" CRT but I managed to get refresh rate added into xorg.conf
[02:42] <AuraDevil> I've been having some problems with the latest firefox-trunk update on feisty, it says its unable to overwrite '/usr/lib/firefox/libnsscbi.so' Can anyone offer me any advice on how i can fix this?
[02:42] <mangojambo> hi people ... good morning ...
[02:43] <dromer> __enigma__: there ..
[02:43] <heffo> Hawkins, i had to do the same thing with my monitor even with the resolution. are there any drivers available for your graphics card?
[02:43] <Hawkins> heffo, http://pastebin.ca/518795
[02:44] <Dimensions> Hiya ... my apache doesn't start automatically how do i make it start automatically when system boots ?
[02:44] <ubuntu-user> help anyone? -> i've accidentally removed the auth-keys from the synaptic-sources-management. now all packets are marked as "not authenticated". where can i download the keys to put them back into synaptic ? system is ubuntu 7.04
[02:44] <Hawkins> heffo, There are and I got it working using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[02:44] <mangojambo> I have a little question ... What is the diference between a normal and lowlatency kernel ??
[02:44] <heffo> hawkins, so its just not showing the right resolutions?
[02:45] <Hawkins> heffo, Exactly
[02:45] <kisom> clear
[02:45] <mangojambo> I mean, I use blender, gimp, Inkscape and other video, audio and graphics programs... why it is beter to use the lowlatency kernel ??
[02:45] <kisom> Urr, nvm that
[02:45] <Hawkins> heffo, It's showing resolutions that aren't even existing in xorg.conf but does not show the one I added there
[02:45] <belgarath_> dromer   still problem?
[02:45] <WeeJeWel> anyone knows how to turn off the automatic file system checking on every boot?
[02:45] <danielDOM> Whats the command to see what version of ubuntu i have installed?
[02:46] <juan278> where does the text that flashes up during boot (no splash or quiet in grub) get saved
[02:46] <heffo> Hawkins, yeah i cant see anything out of the ordinary here : /
[02:46] <dromer> belgarath_: yup
[02:46] <WeeJeWel> juan, boot/grub/lists
[02:46] <belgarath_> dromer   ok.can you mount the disk now?
[02:46] <__enigma__> dromer: pm
[02:46] <kritzstapf> audacity makes my sound sound crappy when i start it until i reload the sound module (snd_ca0106), any ideas why this happens? :(
[02:46] <dromer> belgarath_: no, I can't set a partition table / make a filesystem
[02:46] <dromer> __enigma__: yes I pmed you
[02:47] <belgarath_> dromer you dont have a vfat or something on the disk right now !?
[02:47] <__enigma__> im pmed back
[02:47] <livingtm> Why is it that before i installed this mornings kernel updates my partions were called "/dev/sdaX" and now they are called "/dev/hdaX"/
[02:47] <dromer> belgarath_: not that I know of, I bought it 2nd hand, should be completely blank
[02:47] <danielDOM> Ubuntu-user the hash was "2dc76498dce1060f0f360c4b528e76e1" does that have to match the hash for ubuntu ?on ubuntuhashes website?..or is that for ISO images only ? does each program or file produce its own hash or is it supposed to be one specific hash
[02:47] <heffo> hawkins, sorry i dont know why its doing this :(
[02:48] <dromer> __enigma__: hmm, perhaps I first need to identify to nickserv before I can pm
[02:48] <__enigma__> i see yours but you cant see mine
[02:48] <__enigma__> thats weird
[02:48] <dromer> __enigma__: oh, I already am, you need to identify to nickserv :)
[02:48] <dromer> __enigma__: weird ..
[02:48] <belgarath_> dromer   ok.. I tried your senario.... I put my disk in the usb and ubuntu mounted it auto... then i typed fdisk -l in terminal and my disk showed up as /dev/sda1
[02:48] <ubuntu-user> the hashes are file-specific
[02:48] <WeeJeWel>  anyone knows how to turn off the automatic file system checking on every boot?
[02:48] <dromer> belgarath_: fdisk -l gives: Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table
[02:48] <ziroda1> dromer: enigma one/both of you have to register with nickserv
[02:48] <devil> help my dvd burner isent reading blank cds
[02:48] <ubuntu-user> for that one .zip-file there sould be exactly one hash/md5
[02:49] <dromer> ziroda1: I already am
[02:49] <belgarath_> dromer    aha... thats a boomer
[02:49] <danielDOM> ubuntu-user, where would i find the matching hash for the file i am checking ?
[02:49] <juan278> WeeJeWel: no list i have my menu and a few other files but no lists
[02:49] <dromer> belgarath_: yeah, so no automount
[02:49] <ziroda1> dromer: than enigma isnt
[02:49] <dromer> ziroda1: guess so :P
[02:49] <belgarath_> dromer you dont have any of value on this disk ?
[02:49] <ubuntu-user> normally on the website where u downloaded the file
[02:49] <Hawkins> heffo, OK. Thank you for trying :)
[02:49] <danielDOM> ah ok thanks
[02:49] <dromer> belgarath_: no, I just bought it 2nd hand
[02:50] <heffo> hawkins, welcome, its strange but knowing how these things work its probably blantantly obvious as soon as it gets pointed out
[02:50] <dromer> belgarath_: but another disk I have (also nothing important on it) gives the same problem: can't set pantition table
[02:50] <belgarath_> dromer ok  ....   try  type mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda
[02:50] <dromer> belgarath_: no sudo
[02:50] <dromer> ?
[02:50] <heffo> hawkins, when you try and change the resolution what refresh rate do you use?
[02:50] <belgarath_> yes sudo before
[02:50] <dromer> belgarath_: does this matter? : /dev/sda is entire device, not just one partition!
[02:51] <kritzstapf> is there an alternative for audacity that doesnt block my sound device? :/
[02:51] <Hawkins> heffo, I use 85 Hz
[02:51] <_enigma_07> ok dromer
[02:51] <belgarath_> dromer   correct the whole disk..
[02:51] <ziroda1> kritzstapf: not sure but you can try gnu sound
[02:51] <heffo> hawkins, set it to 60hz the specs for your monitor says it can handle its largest resolution @ 60hz
[02:52] <heffo> hawkins, refresh rate isnt as important in an lcd so dont worry about hurting your eyes
[02:52] <belgarath_> dromer   if you are tired of type sudo everytime you can type sudo su  once
[02:52] <nomad111> hey all i encounter this problem when i go to compile pidgin: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:52] <nomad111> any tips on what i can do
[02:52] <devil> can someone tell me how to get ubuntu to detect blank cds
[02:52] <Hobbsee> !b-e | nomad111
[02:52] <ubotu> nomad111: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:52] <ziroda1> nomad111: not compile?
[02:53] <dromer> belgarath_: meh, I don't want to opperate as root all the time, s not good I think
[02:53] <Hawkins> heffo, You missed out when I said I have CRT so It's quite necessary to get 85 or at least 75 Hz :S
[02:53] <belgarath_> dromer    :D
[02:53] <nomad111> ziroda1, im compiling pidgin from source
[02:53] <heffo> Hawkins, oh sorry yeah i must have missed that part : /
[02:53] <nomad111> ziroda1, an i hit this error. no idea what it is
[02:53] <dromer> belgarath_: I tried mkfs before though, didn't do anything either :/
[02:53] <ziroda1> nomad111: its gonna be a pain....see above
[02:54] <Hawkins> heffo, But anyhow. Putting refresh rate at 60 does not give me more resolution options :(
[02:54] <belgarath_> dromer...  ok :(   ....
[02:54] <dromer> belgarath_: Warning, had trouble writing out superblocks.done
[02:54] <heffo> hawkins, hmm i was hoping that would fix it but if it doesnt then i out of ideas im afraid
[02:55] <nomad111> ziroda1, actually i think all i needed to do was install build-essential package
[02:55] <dromer> belgarath_: that's what I get then
[02:55] <ziroda1> nomad111: yeah or gcc
[02:55] <belgarath_> dromer...  ok .. copy that....   sry no clue right now....
[02:56] <Hawkins> heffo, Oh well. I've conffed this 1st time linux-trial for nearly 8 hours of those 10 I've used it so quite many people have run out of ideas helping me. At some point later someone else might know what to do :)
[02:56] <Hawkins> heffo, So thank you again for wasting your time on me :D
[02:56] <heffo> Hawkins, always a pleasure :P good luck
[02:57] <nomad111> great my download speed just got throttled down
[02:58] <ziroda1> /stats p
[02:58] <belgarath_> dromer...   what happens when you try :  sudo fdisk /devsda  ??
[02:58] <belgarath_> dromer...   what happens when you try :  sudo fdisk /dev/sda  ??
[02:59] <ziroda1> my clock keeps changing randomly after each restart. How and why?
[02:59] <_enigma_07> dromer : is that usb 1 or 2
[02:59] <dromer> belgarath_: did that already
[02:59] <dromer> _enigma_07: usb2
[02:59] <ziroda1> hey SF7
[02:59] <belgarath_> dromer...   any errors ?
[03:00] <SF7> lo dude
[03:00] <dromer> belgarath_: hmm, after mkfs it disappears from fdisk -l but after I turn it off/on it's bakc again
[03:00] <ziroda1> SF7: you at NUS?
[03:00] <SF7> ya!
[03:00] <belgarath_> dromer...   lol
[03:00] <ziroda1> SF7: nus has linux comps??
[03:00] <SF7> i wish.  no, but i do :p
[03:00] <devil> can someone help me get ubuntu to detect blank cds
[03:01] <ziroda1> SF7: ohh damn i thought they mite have even got repos there
[03:01] <SF7> ive already got my lab to switch
[03:01] <ziroda1> SF7: finally get above 6 KB/s dl speeds :p
[03:01] <PriceChild> devil, It "should" already
[03:01] <PriceChild> devil, It should prompt you what you want to do with it.
[03:02] <SF7> and keyboard response times <3s hallelujah
[03:02] <ziroda1> SF7: yeah linux rocks
[03:02] <ziroda1> SF7: school uses it as server it rocks
[03:03] <SF7> ya if ur making drivers its the only realistic way
[03:03] <ziroda1> SF7: plus its so much faster than windoze
[03:03] <sf55> hi, i'm in livecd of ubuntu 7.04 when i open firefox it displays "file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html" on that page there is a link to the community wiki it link is "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation" and not "https://help.ubuntu.com/community/"
[03:03] <ziroda1> sf55: so whats the problem??
[03:04] <seren> i need help with getting the proprietary nvidia driver to install, i just updated my kernel to 2.6.21-ck2 but when i run the nvidia driver installer i get this error http://rafb.net/p/Le6wfW24.html
[03:04] <devil> Pricechild: thats what i said
[03:04] <ziroda1> seren: use envy
[03:04] <sf55> ziroda1: there is nothing on the page "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation"
[03:04] <janerik_hiim> need help.... Have a compac nc6220 with built in sd card reader. When I put in an sd card nothing happends... Help someone please:-)
[03:04] <sf55> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ is the page for the community docs
[03:04] <eX|Hoser> i have a problem installing beryl, i did a stanard gui package install.  and it wont load.  I went into terminal and repeated the manual commands for terminal and it still didnt work.
[03:04] <seren> ziroda1, please explain
[03:04] <eX|Hoser> anyone have any suggestions?
[03:04] <PriceChild> devil, then what's the problem?
[03:04] <ziroda1> sf55: theres loads it takes a while to load
[03:05] <sf55> eX|Hoser: #ubuntu-effects
[03:05] <devil> it dosent detect blank cds
[03:05] <eX|Hoser> thanks
[03:05] <devil> only dvds
[03:05] <seren> ziroda1, i dont think a gtk application is going to help me with a compilation  error
[03:05] <ziroda1> seren: envy is a graphical script which installs the nvidia drivers easily for you, you can get it at www.albertomilone.com/nvidia-scripts1.html
[03:06] <ziroda1> seren: not it also dl's need dependencies which :hopefully" will fix your error
[03:06] <seren> ziroda1, i know how to install the drivers but i get a compilation error, im 100% positive the installer will crap out too
[03:06] <seren> but if your willing to put your credibility on the line
[03:06] <sf55> nv isn't nouveau right?
[03:06] <xNinja> hey i am thinking to switch to windows server 2003 because of this: http://www.microsoft.com/canada/getthefacts/default.mspx
[03:07] <ziroda1> seren: im not that sure lol but hey its your choice
[03:07] <ubuntu-user> i've a problem: i've accidentally removed the auth-keys from the synaptic-sources-management. now all packets are marked as "not authenticated". where can i download the keys to put them back into synaptic ? system is ubuntu 7.04
[03:07] <xNinja> quote "With the linux based platform we could have a system crash at least onece a wekk..":
[03:07] <xNinja> loooooooooooooooool
[03:07] <okidoki> holy crap this place is crowded
[03:07] <janerik_hiim> anyone have an idea how to fix the SDCard problem??? Cant read the card
[03:08] <jessica> I need some help regarding moving images on GIMP. Any takers?
[03:08] <ziroda1> xNinja: its hilarious eh
[03:08] <ame> BeloOn
[03:08] <nomad111> here is an interesting problem im having
[03:08] <nomad111> every couple or so boots to ubuntu fsck runs
[03:08] <speed> helo
[03:08] <seren> ziroda1, same errror
[03:08] <seren> i need help with getting the proprietary nvidia driver to install, i just updated my kernel to 2.6.21-ck2 but when i run the nvidia driver installer i get this error http://rafb.net/p/Le6wfW24.html
[03:08] <nomad111> and every time it tells me i have 0.1% non-contiguous something something
[03:10] <nomad111> are a lot of people encountering this problem
[03:10] <nomad111> or do i actually have a problem with my hdd
[03:10] <xNinja> ziroda1 hahaha yeah exactly
[03:10] <cxy> hi
[03:11] <Xyhthyx> nomad111: It always runs after 30 boots or after a bad shutdown.
[03:11] <PriceChild> Nom-, that's perfectly fine,.
[03:11] <PriceChild> nomad111,  that's perfectly fine,.
[03:11] <juan278> seren: the easiest solution is to boot into your old kernal until a patch or a howto is released
[03:11] <nomad111> it always says sda5 was not mounted correctly
[03:11] <janerik_hiim> no idea of the SDCard problem????
[03:11] <nomad111> i cant have anything to do with a bad shutdown
[03:12] <nomad111> i dont do anything at that stage
[03:12] <nomad111> i just watch it shutdown lol
[03:12] <nomad111> and it looks to shutdown fine
[03:12] <seren> juan278, omg thats silly
[03:12] <seren> juan278, your telling me to sit on the sidelines?
[03:12] <okidoki> gaim irc question... how to disable enter/exit room notices - go!
[03:12] <okidoki> plzkthx
[03:12] <seren> is that how you guys fix stuff on ubuntu?
[03:12] <_enigma_07> seren: whats wrong with that approach , what do you need in that new kernel?
[03:13] <Xyhthyx> okidoki: gb2/4chan/ ;p
[03:13] <seren> "just wait for a patch"
[03:13] <Xyhthyx> okidoki: Try /leave <room>?
[03:13] <okidoki> haha
[03:13] <okidoki> perfecto
[03:13] <seren> _enigma_07, um preempt, 4k stacks, SD-.49 tickless
[03:13] <Xyhthyx> okidoki: Wait nm read the question wrong, damn you coffee.
[03:14] <juan278> no its just my opinion, the new kernal has so  many problems if everybody fixes thier systems themselves then when the devs release an officail patch all hell will break loose again as the fixes everybodys using confilict with eachother
[03:14] <seren> juan278, your insane
[03:14] <seren> juan278, try this on for size
[03:15] <ompaul> !offtopic
[03:15] <seren> you fix something, make a bug repoty with the patch and viola, everyone is happy nothing conflicts and you can sleep knowing the driver compiles
[03:15] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:16] <juan278> and you will notice i said thats the easiest solution, if you want to try and a) recompile  the kernal, b) recompile the nvidia drivers or c) try something crazy instead of wait 2 days on an old kernal then im sure some1 will help, its just my opinion that its easier to wait
[03:16] <seren> yea i can see why i never stuck with buntu for more than a week
[03:16] <seren> see ya all on gentoo
[03:17] <steel_lady> why applications in ubuntu do n ot have normal help, like for eg. gnumeric spreadsheet? I really need it!
[03:18] <Xyhthyx> steel_lady: Most applications have a manual, type man <program> in the terminal.
[03:18] <ror> how do I stop mpegs from opening in a browser so I can open in an external player instead?
[03:18] <PriceChild> jansen, no scripts in here thankyou.
[03:19] <belgarath_> dromer   still here?
[03:19] <Xyhthyx> ror: Are you trying to run it from a website or from your hd?
[03:19] <belgarath_> dromer   can you access a 'usb_pen' on your system !?
[03:19] <bombei> \j bombeiros
[03:20] <ror> from a website
[03:20] <ror> I click on a link to a mpg (or other video file) and it opens in firefox
[03:21] <dromer> belgarath_: what do you mean?
[03:22] <Xyhthyx> ror: Try changing the firefox preferences so it downloads them instead. You can also right click the link to the mpg and save it.
[03:23] <reevester> guys does 7.04 have an installation issue on old PC's ?
[03:23] <ror> Xyhthyx, where are those preferences? in options mpg isn't listed as a filetype and I can't change it
[03:23] <belgarath_> dromer   maybe the setup for usb is wrong on your system.... I had to change some settings for my 1394 disk
[03:23] <reevester> miine doesnt install at all....its tooo damn slow
[03:23] <tim167_> hi can someone help me with this error : http://pastebin.ca/518799 ? thanks!
[03:23] <gangsterlicious> 1RQ
[03:24] <CheshireViking> reevester, what sort of age are you talking about? how much memory & what processor?
[03:24] <Xyhthyx> ror: Remove the filetype from the list.
[03:24] <reevester> P3 550 MHz 128MB RAM
[03:24] <belgarath_> dromer  if you feel lucky, maybe this command will make the disk work: "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1"
[03:24] <steel_lady> Xyhthyx I need help of gnumeric spreadsheet and there isn't anything
[03:24] <Hawkins> Could anyone help me with Firefox "looking up" for every single web page I try to open for about 5 seconds
[03:24] <ubuntu2387> what program can I use to take screenshots of videos?  as in I have a series of videos, and I want to take screenshots of all of them without opening them myself
[03:24] <Xyhthyx> steel_lady: http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnumeric/doc/gnumeric.shtml
[03:24] <Hawkins> This lag does not exist in XP so it's not network related and in Ubuntu downloading packets starts instantly
[03:24] <ror> it's not *on* the list
[03:25] <Xyhthyx> steel_lady: Google is your friend too :)
[03:25] <lparry> is this the place to ask a ubuntu-server question?
 its a P3 550 MHZ 128 MB ram 20 gig HDD
[03:25] <CheshireViking> reevester, looks like it might be the ram thats causing the problem, I have a laptop with similar ram, it does install, but is quite slow, I'm going to try xubuntu on it to see how that compares
[03:25] <bsnider> i don't have the "desktop effects" option in system>preferences. why isn't it there?
[03:25] <Xyhthyx> ror: I see, then right click the link to the mpg and use save link as...
[03:25] <tim167_>  i'm trying to compile Gephex, i get this error: treeview_moc.cpp:11:26: error: qapplication.h: No such file or directory, what do i need for this ? thanks
[03:26] <dromer> belgarath_: I'll try it on my old disk (which has the same problem)
[03:26] <reevester> well in my case the installation doesnt even start...it doesnt recognise my serial Mouse and at the menu that pops up (where I have to enter a username) i dont know what to do
[03:26] <steel_lady> Xyhthyx I havw to tako my laptop to my boyfriend to work and I don't have internet there
[03:26] <reevester> it just keeps resetting the countdown timer
[03:26] <nitro4ce> hi. when trying to open a wmv file with totem i get: "the following decoders are not installed: Windows Media Video 9 decoder, Windows Media Audio 8 decoder". is there a way to fix this?
[03:26] <Xyhthyx> steel_lady: Sorry, I don't have gnumeric installed so I can't help any further :/
[03:26] <CheshireViking> reevester, i didn't have that problem, but i installed from the alternate cd
[03:27] <ror> Xyhthyx, but that asks where to save it, there's no option to "open with"
[03:27] <belgarath_> dromer .... Good luck!   :)
[03:27] <bsnider> never mind. i didn't have the ubuntu-desktop metapackage installed
[03:27] <dromer> belgarath_: wel, it's not working with fdisk ;/
[03:27] <reevester> whats the difference between te alternate cd and the general version ?
[03:27] <reevester> does the alternate cd contain the same stuff as the general disc with the GUI and stuff?
[03:28] <PriceChild> !alternate | reevester
[03:28] <ubotu> reevester: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[03:28] <tim167_> reevester; yes install from the alternate CD, its a text-based installer, the result is the sale
[03:28] <Xyhthyx> ror: If you have mplayer, totem, or vlc firefox plugins installed it will open in firefox. Removing these packages/plugins will probably solve your problem.
[03:28] <belgarath_> dromer... try ... dd   it is worth a try!
[03:28] <tim167_> *same
[03:28] <PriceChild> !away > WeeJeWel
[03:28] <dromer> belgarath_: still can't create a disk label with gparted
[03:28] <dromer> belgarath_: I _did_
[03:28] <nitro4ce> hi. when trying to open a wmv file with totem i get: "the following decoders are not installed: Windows Media Video 9 decoder, Windows Media Audio 8 decoder". is there a way to fix this?
[03:28] <ror> ok, I'll try nuking totem since that's the plugin it seesm to be using
[03:28] <PriceChild> nitro4ce, are you on feisty?
[03:28] <belgarath_> dromer...  did you get any response?
[03:28] <ror> shame those plugins don't show up in firefox's plugin tool
[03:28] <reevester> is it easy to install via the alternate disc?
 yes
[03:28] <CheshireViking> reevester, guidelines suggest minimum ram for feisty is 256Mb
 i think i am missing some packages
[03:29] <PriceChild> nitro4ce, it should give you the option on what codecs you can isntall
[03:29] <Xyhthyx> ror: Just nuke the totem plugin package.
[03:29] <reevester> CheshireViking >> yes i just read that......
[03:29] <reevester> :(
[03:29] <ror> totem-mozilla seems to be the offending package
[03:29] <steel_lady> Xyhthyx I wish I could dl somehow that online help
[03:29] <Nom-> Can anyone suggest how to "fix" the Terminal in default Ubuntu so Alt-LeftArrow and Alt-RightArrow are sent to SSH connection properly?  It's sending 3D for left and 3C for right at the moment...
 yes those are the codecs i need
[03:29] <ubuntu2387> what program can I use to take screenshots of videos?  as in I have a series of videos, and I want to take screenshots of all of them without opening them myself
[03:29] <dromer> belgarath_: from the dd?
[03:29] <PriceChild> nitro4ce, it should give you a wizard to let you install them easily...
[03:29] <belgarath_> dromer...  yeah!
[03:29] <nitro4ce> PriceChild: "the following decoders are not installed: Windows Media Video 9 decoder, Windows Media Audio 8 decoder"
[03:29] <Subsonic> hey guys
[03:29] <reevester> is it easy to install via the alternate disc???
[03:29] <dromer> belgarath_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23085/
[03:29] <ror> it's annoying because an inline mpeg player for firefox would be useful, but having it come up when clicking a mpg file is just annoying
[03:29] <PriceChild> reevester, yes.
[03:30] <dromer> belgarath_: but I still can't make a partition table
[03:30] <Subsonic> anyone in here got experience with linuxmce?
[03:30] <Xyhthyx> ror: totem-mozilla is the package you probably need to remove.
[03:30] <nitro4ce> PriceChild: do you know the name of the packages? i want to install them manually.
[03:30] <ror> yeah it was
[03:30] <CheshireViking> reevester, yes it pretty easy, its just a text based installer rather than the graphical one on the livecd
[03:30] <belgarath_> dromer... ok ... wait I will try the same on my device
[03:30] <PriceChild> nitro4ce, it will give you a wizard to install them
[03:30] <dromer> belgarath_: is yours also a 2.5" ide btw?
[03:30] <nitro4ce> PriceChild: sorry i get no wizard
[03:31] <PriceChild> nitro4ce, a button bottom left of the window?
[03:31] <tim167_> trying to compile Gephex, i get: treeview_moc.cpp:11:26: error: qapplication.h: No such file or directory, can someone tell me what i need for this ? thanks
[03:31] <PriceChild> nitro4ce, bottom right osrry
[03:31] <reevester> do i have to know any commands to use the alternate CD or is it pretty straightforward?
[03:31] <belgarath_> dromer... ok ... I got the same results... now try  mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda
[03:31] <PriceChild> nitro4ce, if not then please follow the instructions that ubotu is sending you via pm
[03:31] <nitro4ce> PriceChild: ok
[03:31] <dromer> belgarath_: if it doesn't work on my old disk I will try the new one
[03:32] <lek> join #twiki
[03:32] <tim167_> reevester just some yes/no questions etc, its very easy
[03:32] <aa^way> can anyone suggest me some good editor for ubuntu? nothing big, im looking for a nice little editor, about 50mb max, no eclipse or intellj please :P, i need highlighting, indetion for php  / java
[03:32] <aa^way> thanks
[03:32] <reevester> hmmm ok...then ill give the alternate CD a whirl :)
[03:32] <tommie-lie> tim167_: go to http://packages.ubuntu.com, scroll down to "Search the contents of packages", enter "qapplication.h" into the edit field and click Search
[03:32] <belgarath_> dromer...  ok.. but I believe this will work
[03:32] <dromer> belgarath_: it's so weird, since the disk definatly is writing _something_ .. but things don't "stick" or something ;/
[03:32] <kkathman> aa^way,  gedit ?
[03:32] <reevester> also whats the difference between v7.xx and v6.xx ???? i heard 6 is more stable.........?
[03:32] <dromer> belgarath_: and now, fdisk -l ?
[03:33] <tim167_> timmie-lie : thanks i'll have a look
[03:33] <belgarath_> dromer...  no... try to remove the disk and re-attach it again to the computer...
[03:33] <ubuntu2387> what program can I use to take screenshots of videos?  as in I have a series of videos, and I want to take screenshots of all of them without opening them myself
[03:33] <kkathman> aa^way,  if you like console, vi  or nano
[03:33] <tommie-lie> tim167_: libqt4-dev should be the one you're looking for, you can install it via Synaptic
[03:33] <CheshireViking> reevester, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/I386
[03:33] <belgarath_> dromer...  with some luck it will automount
[03:33] <PriceChild> reevester, 6.06 is lts and will be supported longer. 7.04 has more features
[03:33] <dromer> belgarath_: hmm ..
[03:33] <dromer> belgarath_: one more moment :)
[03:33] <reevester> thank u guys :D appreciated!
[03:34] <Slart> ubuntu2387: I don't think there is a good application for making screenshots.. there are some bashscripts though
[03:34] <molnitza> Hi.
[03:34] <Subsonic_> anyone in here got experience with linuxmce?
[03:35] <CaptainMorgan> !purge
[03:35] <ubuntu2387> Slart, that'll work too, you know where I can get them?  I have RM, WMV, and Divx files there
[03:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <tommie-lie> ubuntu2387, Slart: what's wrong with the gnome screenshot utility?
[03:35] <PriceChild> Subsonic, that is offtopic here.
[03:35] <melman101> ubuntu2387: take screenshot is in my Ubuntu menu.
[03:35] <CaptainMorgan> how do I remove a package, completely? with purge?
[03:35] <PriceChild> Subsonic_, that is offtopic here.
[03:35] <dromer> belgarath_: it's not atumounting, but I will try the other disk
[03:35] <belgarath_> dromer...  WAIT!
[03:35] <grimboy> gnome-panel covers up part of a game when I'm playing it. Is the only work around to to pkill gnome-panel lots of times until it stops starting up?
[03:35] <PriceChild> CaptainMorgan, sudo apt-get remove --purge foo
[03:35] <dromer> belgarath_: what :P
[03:35] <mogul> hi
[03:35] <aa^way> kkathman: im sorry but seems like there is no code indetion?
[03:35] <ubuntu2387> tommie-lie, melman101 I need it to do it automatically, for a bunch of files
[03:35] <belgarath_> dromer...  try type less /proc/partitions
[03:36] <tim167_> tommie-lie, i have those packages already installed, but still make claims not to find "qapplication.h", what do i do ?
[03:36] <Subsonic_> what does offtopic mean?
[03:36] <molnitza> I have a little problem. I wanted to update my kernel (ubuntu) but it failed. On grub i have now two lines of different kernels. but no one woks.
[03:36] <Subsonic_> can't talk about it?
[03:36] <PriceChild> Subsonic, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:36] <CheshireViking> !offtopic | Subsonic
[03:36] <ubotu> Subsonic: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:36] <aa^way> kkathman: i meant there is no auto indetation in gedit or is there?
[03:36] <dromer> belgarath_: hmm: 8     0     796284 sda
[03:36] <Subsonic_> thanks
[03:36] <tommie-lie> tim167_: strange, usually the configure scripts find those files for you
[03:36] <belgarath_> dromer...  great!
[03:37] <molnitza> can i repair the kernel?
[03:37] <Hawkins> How to get Firefox load page as quickly as it does in XP. In ubuntu Firefox takes 5 seconds while doing virtually nothing and says in status bar "looking up..." and then just blasts the page in under 1 sec to screen.
[03:37] <dromer> belgarath_: what is it?
[03:37] <kkathman> aa^way,  I might have misunderstood your needs. then. I thought your emphasis was on size.  What will you be using the editor for?
[03:37] <belgarath_> dromer...   try this ...   sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda  /mnt
[03:37] <foxiness> i want to use tool to view control init on cl ,any recommend here?
[03:38] <hoarycripple> i have lost the file /etc/init.d/ntp and reinstalling ntp is not bringing it back.  I definitely did not remove this file manually.  what happened?
[03:38] <dromer> belgarath_: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[03:38] <belgarath_> dromer...   did you get this as a respons?
[03:38] <dromer> belgarath_: yes
[03:39] <belgarath_> dromer...   replace auto with ext3
[03:39] <kkathman> aa*way there is autoindentiion in gedit tho - check edit-preferences
[03:39] <aa^way> kkathman: i need an automatic code indetation, highlighting code(coloring), a maybe abiliti to write some PHP function and it will display that function with params..the gedit doesnt have the code indeation what i need, code indetaion i need is like automatic, if i go to next line, it will indent itself ( i need to press TAB in gedit )
[03:39] <dromer> belgarath_: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda
[03:39] <tim167_> tommie-lie, i have the file in /usr/include/qt3/qapplication.h, can i specify that to ./configure ?
[03:39] <kkathman> aa*way  ahh well, if its for programming, you might look at bluefish
[03:39] <dromer> belgarath_: dmesg | tail gives: [ 8757.864000]  VFS: Can't find ext3 filesystem on dev sda.
[03:39] <b0in3XtwiNd0w> wow
[03:39] <aa^way> kkathman: thanks, i readed something about it but i wasnt sure its for linux
[03:40] <belgarath_> dromer...   damn!   still some problem with partitions on this disk!
[03:40] <dromer> yup
[03:40] <b0in3XtwiNd0w> anyone who can answer a noobie question?
[03:40] <kkathman> aa^way,  I do alot of php, and bluefish works very well in gnome, quanta is exceptional in KDE
[03:40] <CheshireViking> !ask | b0in3XtwiNd0w
[03:40] <ubotu> b0in3XtwiNd0w: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:40] <dromer> belgarath_: I can try the other disk, start at the dd again
[03:40] <b0in3XtwiNd0w> i cant get beryl working with xgl
[03:40] <aa^way> kkathman: what is KDE?
[03:40] <b0in3XtwiNd0w> all i have is the desktop effect
[03:40] <b0in3XtwiNd0w> ati radeon xpress 1100
[03:40] <kkathman> aa^way, another graphical interface (kubuntu)
[03:40] <molnitza> can i repair the kernel? because my ubuntu kernel autoupdate failed and ubuntu doesn't boot
[03:40] <dromer> !kde | aa^way
[03:40] <ubotu> aa^way: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[03:40] <belgarath_> dromer...   do that this is the way to go ....
[03:41] <houdini> Robert Hawkins from Jericho
[03:41] <b0in3XtwiNd0w> can i pm someone?
[03:41] <aa^way> oh
[03:41] <tommie-lie> tim167_: depends on the configure script
[03:41] <sincero> hi everybody
[03:41] <CheshireViking> !beryl | b0in3XtwiNd0w
[03:41] <PriceChild> b0in3XtwiNd0w, #ubuntu-effects
[03:41] <ubotu> b0in3XtwiNd0w: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:41] <nitro4ce> PriceChild: in the wiki there is no information on geting wmv files to play with totem. only wth mplayer, gxine and totem-xine
[03:41] <b0in3XtwiNd0w> ubuntu-effects is not answering
[03:41] <brohan> okay, I need help with my beard
[03:42] <brohan> long weekend.. I need to know if I should keep it
[03:42] <brohan> http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6371/1004418sd4.jpg
[03:42] <b0in3XtwiNd0w> i mean no ne seems to answer
[03:42] <PriceChild> !offtopic | brohan
[03:42] <ubotu> brohan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:42] <brohan> :'(
[03:42] <dromer> belgarath_: hmm, this disk isn't showing up in less /proc/partitions
[03:42] <sincero> any idea what fs type is for ipod?
[03:43] <b0in3XtwiNd0w> PriceChild I guess there's no one there who is familiar with my problem
[03:43] <PriceChild> sincero, depends how you formatted it.
[03:43] <foxiness> where is inittab on ubuntu ?
[03:43] <dromer> belgarath_: except when I turn off/on the disk, than it shows up again
[03:43] <PriceChild> !patience | b08y
[03:43] <ubotu> b08y: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:43] <PriceChild> argh
[03:43] <PriceChild> b0in3XtwiNd0w, ^
 so should i mounted?
[03:43] <kokopelli> kokopelli
[03:43] <b0in3XtwiNd0w> PriceChild can you refer someone?
[03:43] <kokopelli> oops
 i mean how
[03:44] <b08y> WOOT?
[03:44] <PriceChild> b0in3XtwiNd0w, please stay in #ubuntu-effects and be patient
[03:44] <belgarath_> dromer...  did you remove the other disk before!?  probably it is the same /dev/sda to this disk
[03:44] <hwilde55> I have a network drive mapped, but it asks for Unlock Keyring... how can I make it not ask for this password everytime?
[03:44] <blackjackel> anyone know EXACTLY What usplash does? Is it the splashscreen that shows the "ubuntu" loading in orange and black?
[03:44] <PriceChild> sincero, is the ipod windows or mac formatted?
[03:44] <b0in3XtwiNd0w> PriceChild okay..
[03:44] <abo0> hello, should I see wlan0 if i type iwconfig, because I only see eth1 as wireless ?
[03:44] <PriceChild> BlackBsd, its the splash on boot
[03:44] <sincero> mac
[03:44] <kokopelli> Hello
[03:44] <b0in3XtwiNd0w> PriceChild thanks btw
[03:44] <PriceChild> sincero, I don't know then sorry
[03:44] <tommie-lie> tim167_: according to their mailing list, you're not alone, see http://osdir.com/ml/video.gephex.user/2006-11/msg00002.html
[03:45] <blackjackel> PriceChild, which one? The one that shows right after you enter your username and password or the one before you even see the login screen?
[03:45] <dromer> belgarath_: yes I removed it before , it's the same usb-interface :)  ok I got some more in dmesg | tail this time: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23089/
[03:45] <PriceChild> blackjackel, before
[03:45] <blackjackel> PriceChild, ah, thanks
[03:45] <sladen> blackjackel: usplash draws the progress to the kernel framebuffer device during bootup, before X has loaded.  You can  apt-get source usplash   to get the source code
[03:46] <blackjackel> PriceChild, would you know a guide to services and what they do? I'm trying to uninstall as many services that I don't need as I can
[03:46] <sladen> blackjackel: it shows different logos depending on what is configured (eg. ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu or a custom logo scheme)
[03:46] <aa^way> kkathman: can you get me started, how you do auto indent in blue? :P
[03:46] <tim167_> tommie-lie: interesting...
[03:46] <PriceChild> blackjackel, I don't know and wouldn't advise that sorry.
[03:46] <D0pamine> hi , is openssh installed by default on ubuntu
[03:46] <humpinH> no
[03:46] <PriceChild> blackjackel, uninstall packages you don't need.
[03:46] <D0pamine> i think its version F
[03:46] <PriceChild> !openssh-server | D0pamine
[03:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openssh-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:47] <PriceChild> !info openssh-server | D0pamine
[03:47] <D0pamine> whats the package name ?
[03:47] <ubotu> d0pamine: openssh-server: Secure shell server, an rshd replacement. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-8ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 230 kB, installed size 596 kB
[03:47] <D0pamine> apt-get install openssh-server ?
[03:47] <PriceChild> D0pamine, sudo
[03:47] <foxiness> blackjackel: there are article about that
[03:47] <D0pamine> yes
[03:47] <D0pamine> i know
[03:47] <Isomerizer> hey
[03:47] <blackjackel> foxiness, I cant seem to find a detailed article, can you link me?
[03:47] <humpinH> brohan: i'm watching you and your facial hair
[03:47] <kkathman> aa^way,  again, as you'll find, most options and personalizations are found under Edit ->Preferences
[03:47] <sincero> PriceChild: and what is the one for winpdows?
[03:48] <PriceChild> sincero, fat32
[03:48] <D0pamine> btw which packages do i need to be able to build my own kernel ?
[03:48] <hwilde55> !kernel | D0pamine
[03:48] <ubotu> D0pamine: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[03:48] <sladen> dopamine: openssh-server is on the CD, but is not installed by default
[03:48] <axisys> how do I find out what my com1 is mapped to /dev/ttyS0 ?
[03:48] <D0pamine> i build kernels  all the time
[03:48] <sladen> D0pamine: linux-source
[03:48] <aa^way> kkathman: im sorry, it isnt there, i see a indetation but i need to use "TAB" for it =\
[03:48] <axisys> is there a way to check if COM1 on my laptop mapped to /dev/ttyS0 ?
[03:48] <sincero> PriceChild: so you use vfat
[03:49] <PriceChild> sincero, yes
[03:49] <diablos_raven> can anyone tell me why wine is freaking out on me
[03:49] <sladen> axisys: yes, it will be.
[03:49] <belgarath_> dromer...  ok. if this does not work ... i cant help you...  I am far from an elite linux-hardcore guru :)
[03:49] <axisys> sladen: how do i check?
[03:49] <foxiness> blackjackel: http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/make-ubuntu-linux-run-faster-252867.php
[03:49] <PriceChild> sladen, thanks for that, didn't know it was on the cd.
[03:49] <sincero> PriceChild: well that is the problem, because it doesn't work
[03:49] <kkathman> aa^way,  yep,  well, I think if auto indentation is your goal, and your defining requirement, then you would need to look elsewhere.
[03:49] <dromer> belgarath_: hehe, yeah I need to find one of those somewhere ;/
[03:49] <PriceChild> sincero, I thoguht you said it was mac formatted?
[03:49] <sladen> axisys: I don't understand what you're trying to do.  Could you explain in a little more detail and I'll try to answer you better.  COM1 == ttyS0  COM2 == ttyS1.  Generally by plugging something in a good way to check!
[03:50] <CheshireViking> !wine > diablos_raven
[03:50] <Scotch49> salve
[03:50] <belgarath_> dromer...  yeah... I am sure you have someone here in this forum
[03:50] <blackjackel> thanks foxiness
[03:50] <kkathman> aa^way,  I apologize - its under "Document"
[03:50] <dromer> belgarath_: forum=>channel ;)
[03:50] <foxiness> blackjackel: np
[03:50] <onats> !video
[03:50] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[03:50] <axisys> sladen: i remember there was a list of hradware maps
[03:50] <onats> !graphics
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about graphics - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <onats> !vga
[03:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vga - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:51] <belgarath_> dromer...  haha!  :D
[03:51] <diablos_raven> CheshireViking: yes i have a game loaded in wine and it runs and finally recognizes my mouse but i cant see the screen it turns black on me
[03:51] <sincero> PriceChild: it is not my ipod and he doesn't know
[03:51] <PriceChild> sincero, then I can't help sorry.
[03:51] <kkathman> aa^way,   auto-indentation is the default when you install bluefish, by the way
[03:51] <qdploveyike> ?
[03:51] <sladen> axisys: COM == communications.  S == Serial.  Same thing, linux starts counting at zero and DOS/Windows at 1.
[03:51] <tommie-lie> tim167_: if you're fine with using Gephex 0.4.2, they also got a deb on their sourceforge site. It may or may not work on a current version of Ubuntu, though. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=51476&package_id=70328
[03:52] <rangeles_> does anyone know how to start/use WINE and can anyone help me with it
[03:52] <Stevethepirate> hye ppl! how do, without kwifimanager, set my wireless network card to find a network?
[03:52] <belgarath_> dromer...  Good luck ...  :D
[03:52] <mroc> need some help with nautilus - it's freezing up on me and i have no idea how to begin solving this issue
[03:52] <CheshireViking> diablos_raven, I don't use wine for games, so i'm not going to be able to help, I thought you might get better help following the link from ubotu to the#winehq irc channel
[03:52] <sincero> PriceChild: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda  missing codepage or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so
[03:52] <PriceChild> rangeles_, have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine ?
[03:52] <diablos_raven> CheshireViking: I'm there too but I could use as many people helping as possible besides i can never get anyone to talk to me there
[03:53] <sincero> PriceChild: this is error which i got
[03:53] <sladen> axisys: what device are you attempting to make work?
[03:53] <PriceChild> sincero, use fdisk or something to find out the filesystem type
[03:53] <aa^way> kkathman: yes i got auto indent but i dont get it, why it doesnt work heh
[03:53] <Stevethepirate> howto find wireless networks!!
[03:53] <Stevethepirate> please! some1
[03:54] <tim167_> tommie-lie: oh great, trying it right away...
[03:54] <mroc> looking for help with nautilus freezing on me - no idea where to begin for this problem.  any help?
[03:55] <kkathman> aa^way, Im not sure what you are expecting?  When you type, then hit return, and indent using spaces or tabs, the following lines remember the indent.  Works here just fine, and its the way I've always used autoindent in every IDE I've worked with
[03:56] <CheshireViking> diablos_raven, I've haven't got anything to contribute really, the only thought I can think of is whether you've got beryl installed, I've had black screens with ubuntu applications when beryls installed because of insufficient video memory
[03:56] <visualdeception> what kind of wine problems are you having?
[03:56] <aa^way> kkathman: ah i see, i expect it to like indent himself, like, if i declare function, the vars/things should be indented automaticaly in tehre )
[03:56] <tim167_> timmie-lie, theur .deb asks for libavifile-0.7c102, i have -0.7-c2, do i make a symbolic link or do i downgrade this lib ?
[03:56] <gumis> hello
[03:57] <diablos_raven> CheshireViking: its installed but not running or would it be running in the background i dont see the diamond in the notification area
[03:57] <kkathman> aa^way,  no, it doesnt work that way - this is consistent with quanta and even Dreamweaver
[03:57] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: i installed wine and installed a game and it runs but i cant see anything but i can hear it
[03:57] <CheshireViking> diablos_raven, visualdeception just asked a question about wine problems, not sure if that was aimed at you, but if it was, maybe they can help
[03:58] <aa^way> kkathman: ill try quanta
[03:58] <kkathman> aa^way,  it will be the same way
[03:58] <hwilde55> iwconfig says "eth1: radio off"  how do I enable?
[03:59] <kkathman> aa^way,  thats pretty much a standard in all IDE's I've ever worked with.
[03:59] <aa^way> kkathman oh sorry i misunderstanded you, you have idea where i could meet this function?
[03:59] <Niroog> hi
[03:59] <Stevethepirate> Hey.. ppl.. how do i detect networks via wireless?
[03:59] <Frogzoo> hwilde55: is there a button on the wifi - lappies have switches
[03:59] <visualdeception> diablos_raven:if you run winecfg and go to i believe display or video. Make sure everything is not checked. I had problems running Starcraft and that fixed my issues
[03:59] <kkathman> aa^way,  no, as I said, all IDE's seem to work that way as far as I've used them.
[03:59] <eighty> errr... how can i get a list of all installed software on my ubuntu box?
[03:59] <Frogzoo> Stevethepirate: network manager does by default
[04:00] <eighty> synaptic or something?
[04:00] <jmspeex> Is anyone here able to get the gnome-panel to run for more than a few hours without crashing (Feisty)?
[04:00] <varka> !medibuntu
[04:00] <ubotu> medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/
[04:00] <hwilde55> Frogzoo, what is this supposed to save battery power on the laptop
[04:00] <radio89-ita> aa^way: to enable indentatio try Edit->Preferences->editor...
[04:00] <Frogzoo> eighty: dpkg --get-selections
[04:01] <aa^way> yeah radio89-ita, its already on but thats wrong indetaion
[04:01] <eighty> Frogzoo: thanks!
[04:01] <Frogzoo> hwilde55: aye
[04:01] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: my biggest problem is that im using ubuntu and it doesnt like my ati gpu i cant even run beryl properly
[04:01] <kkathman> radio89-ita,  he wants "smart indentation" not auto indentation, which is in like Microsoft Visual Studio,  but not in most FOSS packages
[04:01] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: i had edgy installed before and ran everything fine but feisty was released and since upgrading ive had nothing but problems
[04:02] <simon__> please help. I am logged in in failsafe mode. only possible way. problem occured after i changed splash screen and login theme. Now i get error message every time i do a normal login.
[04:02] <hwilde55> aa^way, use emacs.
[04:02] <kkathman> lol
[04:02] <hwilde55> simon__, what exactly did you change
[04:02] <kkathman> yeah emacs would work, but its not an IDE, per se
[04:02] <snake_> yea i did a major upgrade on my feisty and had a kernal panic
[04:02] <radio89-ita> aa^way: sorry ;)
[04:02] <kkathman> but again if "smart" indentation is the defining requirement, go for it :)
[04:03] <simon__> i changed to dark linux splash screen and same login theme... I think thats all i did
[04:03] <hwilde55> simon__, can you change it back
[04:03] <kkathman> aa^way,  the indentation features are a bit overrated, as most of the IDE's have "tidy" which do all the formatting for you
[04:03] <visualdeception> diablos_raven: what kind of drivers have you installed on your computer?
[04:03] <snake_> does anyone know how to pass kernal options to get the kernal up and running again
[04:03] <D0pamine> erm how do i get the nvidia prop drivers working ?
[04:03] <simon__> tried to, but it didnt help. i think i have changed it back now...
[04:04] <DgrMouse> Can someone assist in firewall rules for port forwarding please?
[04:04] <D0pamine> btw ive only got ssh^
[04:04] <kkathman> aa^way,  plus, bluefish has a sidebar visual that shows all levels of code
[04:04] <hwilde55> !nvidia | D0pamine
[04:04] <ubotu> D0pamine: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:04] <simon__> but i still have problems. Is there any way to jump back to last working settings or something in startup?
[04:05] <onats> does anyone know how to add more resolution choices to the screen resolution?
[04:06] <simon__> now i can't start any other programs. not even terminal or alt+f2 works
[04:06] <D0pamine> hwilde55 , im not phsyicly at the machine , im just connected via ssh
[04:06] <snake_> no one knows how to fix a kernal panic after an upgrade
[04:07] <brylie> onats you need to edit xorg.conf
[04:07] <hwilde55> D0pamine, did you read the link from ubtou
[04:07] <hwilde55> !nvidia | D0pamine
[04:07] <ubotu> D0pamine: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:07] <brylie> lemme find instructions
[04:07] <Frogzoo> onats: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[04:07] <hwilde55> !resolution | onats
[04:07] <ubotu> onats: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:07] <brylie> !xorg.conf | onats
[04:07] <onats> ok will try that command...
[04:07] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: sorry was in winehq channel i have the ubuntu restricted ones
[04:08] <D0pamine> System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager ?
[04:08] <simon__> does anyone have a good tip where to start fixing my system. Its quite fucked up
[04:08] <hwilde55> simon__, reinstall from a cd
[04:08] <hwilde55> !language | simon__
[04:08] <ubotu> simon__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:09] <D0pamine> haha xD
[04:09] <DgrMouse> simon__: ubuntu desktop?
[04:09] <kkathman> well im not sure you have to reinstall
[04:09] <kkathman> thats a bit of an novice way out :)
[04:09] <simon__> yes. ubuntu deskop
[04:09] <simon__> don't want to reinstall.
[04:09] <PriceChild> simon__, does the old kernel still work?
[04:09] <DgrMouse> simon: use the cd and do a recovery install... from memory its the third option down
[04:09] <simon__> i'm a little newbie. What do you mean by that?
[04:10] <onats> what does PCI:1:0:0 mean?
[04:10] <D0pamine> hwilde55 , like i said i cant click System -> Administration -> Restricted Devices Manager as im not phsyicaly at the machine
[04:10] <PriceChild> simon__, at boot you get the optino of what kernel to boot on.
[04:10] <snake_> none of my kernals work after an upgrade any suggestions fiesty fawn install
[04:10] <PriceChild> simon__, have you tried using the 3rd in the list?
[04:10] <simon__> havent't tried
[04:10] <simon__> no
[04:10] <PriceChild> simon__, try it
[04:10] <visualdeception> diablos_raven; what happens if you start beryl-manager
[04:10] <D0pamine> simon__ , build your own ?
[04:10] <simon__> ok. third from top
[04:10] <DgrMouse> simon__: boot from the cd and chose the recovery option
[04:10] <PriceChild> D0pamine, Not the best advice.
[04:11] <hwilde55> D0pamine, aptitude search nvidia
[04:11] <simon__> c u
[04:11] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: it runs and the icon appears saying it is running but i cant get the 3d cube to work or the wobbly window animation
[04:11] <D0pamine> PriceChild , why not , i build my own/for other people all the time , its not hard at all
[04:11] <DgrMouse> ok now my question.. who knows anything about iptables?
[04:12] <PriceChild> D0pamine, That's like me installing SUSE because i don't like the visual appearance of Ubuntu.
[04:12] <onats> !mice
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <D0pamine> well i use gentoo personaly , i make it how i like it
[04:12] <onats> !tts0
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tts0 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <CaptainMorgan> is openssl or any ssl a standard or default package ?
[04:12] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: what are the minimum reqs for beryl do you know
[04:13] <CaptainMorgan> looking to purge any recent installation files and I am not sure if it is one of them..
[04:13] <hwilde55> CaptainMorgan, aptitude search ssl
[04:13] <DgrMouse> iptables anyone?? please?
[04:13] <CaptainMorgan> hwilde55, what?
[04:13] <hwilde55> CaptainMorgan, type that into command line "aptitude search ssl"
[04:13] <preaction> !firewall | DgrMouse
[04:13] <ubotu> DgrMouse: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[04:14] <CaptainMorgan> hwilde55, why?
[04:14] <CaptainMorgan> what is it telling me?
[04:14] <DgrMouse> preaction: cheers, I will look into it
[04:14] <hwilde55> CaptainMorgan, it is telling you the answer to your question!
[04:14] <kkathman> CaptainMorgan,  that command will give you a list of the packages that meet your requirement
[04:14] <snake_> suggestions on kernal panic anyone plz
[04:14] <silvertip257> I've recently tried to customize an ubuntu liveCD, but the md5sum on the CD fails and of course the CD will not run the live distro
[04:14] <binarydigit> how can i make a dir with a $ in its name
[04:14] <CaptainMorgan> kkathman, hwilde55 k, I am confused... 'meet my requirement' ?
[04:15] <kkathman> CaptainMorgan,  in that particular case, it finds "ssl" in the name or description
[04:15] <preaction> snake_: what's the kernel trying to do before that?
[04:15] <hwilde55> silvertip257, bad dl - re download and burn
[04:15] <CaptainMorgan> kkathman, understood - that's not my question
[04:15] <silvertip257> hwilde55 - no, I'm making a custom distro
[04:15] <simon__> Hi. Now i booted with an older kernel. It works better but not perfect. I still get this error message when i login: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23090/
[04:15] <snake_> start
[04:15] <kkathman> CaptainMorgan,  your question was to find a package that had SSL yes ?
[04:15] <hwilde55> CaptainMorgan,  you asked this question "is openssl or any ssl a standard or default package".  Run this command to see:  aptitude search ssl
[04:15] <CaptainMorgan> kkathman,  no!
 is openssl or any ssl a standard or default package ?
[04:15] <preaction> snake_: there should be a few lines before it says "Kernel Panic", can you boot an older kernel?
[04:16] <snake_> does nothing goes str8 to panic insert kernal option to init
[04:16] <CaptainMorgan> hwilde55, standard with a fresh 7.04 install
[04:16] <snake_> none of the kernals work after an update in fiesty fawn
[04:16] <CheshireViking> !openssl
[04:16] <ubuntu-rocks> does fiesty 7.04 default lamp server install come with ssl support already?
[04:16] <mroc> i need help with nautilus - it's freezing up on me and i have no idea how to solve this problem\
[04:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openssl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <eX|Hoser> Ok guys, I've tried everything I know.  Beryl will not run on my copy of Ubuntu.  Can anyone please give some insight to my problem.  I am using Radeon X850XT, with ATI drivers.
[04:17] <hwilde55> !beryl | eX|Hoser
[04:17] <ubotu> eX|Hoser: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:17] <kkathman> CaptainMorgan,  ubuntu comes with very little bloat, so things that people dont need, on the whole, might not be included - ssl is one of those, so you just need to install one of the packages, and the command given  to you would give you a list of those
[04:17] <CaptainMorgan> if I wanted to do a search, I would have.. my question was weather it was included in the distro - such as OO is when you install
[04:18] <onats> frogzoo, after doing the reconfig, restart?
[04:18] <tts> can any one help i constant drive activity and 90% CPU , i also cant find the process causing all this , i have ubuntu edgy.
[04:18] <CaptainMorgan> ok, that answers my question, thank you kkathman
[04:18] <simon__> Hi. I was asking for help 5 min. ago. Now i booted with an older kernel like you told me. It works better but not perfect. I still get this error message when i login: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23090/
[04:18] <hwilde55> tts, type in "top" in the command line and look at cpu %
[04:18] <kkathman> CaptainMorgan,  you're welcome
[04:18] <CaptainMorgan> list of those that are not needed?
[04:18] <CaptainMorgan> don't come with pre-installed? or are on my system currently ?
[04:19] <hwilde55> !compiz | simon__
[04:19] <ubotu> simon__: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[04:19] <tts> thanks its mythtv
[04:19] <kkathman> CaptainMorgan,  there are probably in excess of 25000 packages that are available that are not installed by default
[04:19] <shiester_miester> greets everyone
[04:19] <tts>  mythcommflag
[04:19] <hwilde55> tts,  you can kill it with the process id (pid)
[04:20] <silvertip257> I've recently tried to customize an ubuntu liveCD, but the md5sum on the CD fails and of course the CD will not run the live distro
[04:20] <fliper_> good morning guys
[04:20] <shiester_miester> how can i get the extra 2 buttons to be detected on a 5 button mouse?
[04:20] <simon__> is my problem related to compiz? i don't even have it. only beryl...
[04:20] <blackjackel> anyone know of a program that will tax my video card to the max? Something like this: http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/rthdribl/
[04:20] <shiester_miester> id love to be able to use one of them in beryl instead of the alt key
[04:20] <hwilde55> simon__, the error messages in your pastebin are from compiz.  you might want to ask in #ubuntu-effects
[04:20] <mroc> i need help with nautilus - it's freezing up and i don't know how to solve this problem.  please?
[04:20] <tts> hwilde55 thanks
[04:20] <shiester_miester> blackjackel, get stalker, turn up all graphics
[04:21] <blackjackel> shiester_miester, Im looking for more of a benchmark program that I can run inside a window for overclocking purposes
[04:21] <shiester_miester> yeah i thought so :P
[04:21] <hwilde55> tts, kill -9 processidhere
[04:21] <tts> i I'm going to leave it ,after all thats what this server is for,
[04:21] <hwilde55> lol
[04:21] <PriceChild> mroc, can you repeat the freezes doing certain actions?
[04:21] <fliper_> tts ps -ef|more to get the ps id
[04:22] <shiester_miester> blackjackel, that program looks hardcore
[04:22] <hwilde55> tts, in the top display you might want to check memory usage and swap file...  maybe you need more ram and the cpu is working overtime to compensate
[04:22] <blackjackel> shiester_miester, apparently it runs in wine! LOL
[04:22] <shiester_miester> whoa
[04:22] <shiester_miester> but does it look as nice?
[04:22] <mroc> PriceChild:  yeah, trying to open any window from the standard menu bar or launching from terminal.   i have a couple folders on my desktop, and double-clicking on them seems not to freeze anything
[04:22] <blackjackel> shiester_miester: That program will burn up your card in 5 mins
[04:22] <shiester_miester> i thought wine didnt do directx9 very well
[04:22] <visualdeception> diablos_raven: I'm not sure the minimum requirements....i tried to locate them but unable to locate a solid answer for you....i am running beryl on a dell gx 260 (2.0 ghz 512 mb RAM 128 mb nvidia graphics card)
[04:22] <PriceChild> mroc, what error so dyou get frmo the terminal?
[04:22] <tts> hwilde55: i still have some ram to spear and have 2 mythtv jobs at the same time.
[04:23] <hwilde55> tts, well that explains what your cpu is doing
[04:23] <tts> spare*
[04:23] <blackjackel> shiester_miester, run that program for 5 mins then touch your ram... you'll burn your finger
[04:23] <mroc> PriceChild:  i've been launching from the termnal using the command "nautilus" and it doesn't give an error - it just returns the prompt and launches a window - which loads no icons and freezes
[04:23] <shiester_miester> yeah i bet
[04:23] <tts> sorry about my spelling
[04:23] <tijos> Hi, I have a question: where does 'apt-get source ...' downloads the source code?
[04:24] <PriceChild> mroc, and gives absolutely no feedback?
[04:24] <hwilde55> mroc, PriceChild sounds like permissions error
[04:24] <PriceChild> hwilde55, unusual for it not to give feedback though...?
[04:24] <slavik> tijos: ubuntu repos
[04:24] <hwilde55> tijos, locate src
[04:24] <shiester_miester> lol @ "maybe you feel that the frame-rate is slow" :P its a benchmark program! buy a better computer!
[04:24] <PriceChild> hwilde55, normally it'd complain about such a thing.
[04:24] <onats> my mouse works weird.. sometimes it works, and then there are times it just does not respond.. can anyone point me to the right direction?
[04:24] <DgrMouse> how different is ubuntu to redhat when using scripts?
[04:25] <hwilde55> PriceChild, only thing I can think of is he doesn't have permissions so it can't display the popup error message?
[04:25] <fliper_> tijos try man apt-get
[04:25] <PriceChild> DgrMouse, scripts?
[04:25] <DgrMouse> shell scripts
[04:25] <onats> !mouse
[04:25] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> !windows
[04:25] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[04:25] <slavik> anyone know if radeon supposed to give accelaration for X300?
[04:25] <Paddy_EIRE> !grub
[04:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:25] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: yeah thats about what m running i have an amd 2.6 512 RAM and atiradeon 9800 128mb gpu
[04:25] <tts> hwilde55:usermemory 226.9 mib of 503.8 mib     used sawp:17.3mib of 729.mib
[04:25] <fivetwentysix> What is the default hotkey to open terminal?
[04:25] <PriceChild> DgrMouse, ubuntu uses bash and dash.... but shuold be no difference
[04:25] <PriceChild> slavik, no
[04:26] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: built myself
[04:26] <tts> cpu 100%
[04:26] <hwilde55> tts, I guess you need a faster cpu then
[04:26] <roberth_> how do i recover user accounts and passwords on edgy eft?
[04:26] <hwilde55> robert_, do you know the username
[04:26] <PriceChild> roberth_, recover?
[04:26] <fliper_> hwilde55 lol...
[04:26] <roberth_> hwilde55: well thats the problem
[04:27] <DgrMouse> PriceChild: so what woudl i use instead of sysctl?
[04:27] <ward_> does anybody know stuff about QT ?
[04:27] <PriceChild> DgrMouse, haven't a clue sorry
[04:27] <ward_> some QT prog flashes en flickers, etc
[04:27] <hwilde55> roberth_, try this command on terminal  "ls -l /home"
[04:27] <tijos> ok thx
[04:27] <tts> hwilde55:its a 2800 , i could do with a 4000+ daulcore thou
[04:27] <ward_> the whole GUI is not right
[04:27] <roberth_> hwilde: i cant get into the system
[04:27] <roberth_> i can'y login
[04:27] <DgrMouse> where is the location of iptables in ubuntu?
[04:27] <ward_> i just did a month on compiling it, and now it seems not usable
[04:27] <visualdeception> diablos_raven: nice.
[04:27] <roberth_> got no passowrds or user accounts
[04:28] <hwilde55> robert_, use the live cd, mount the harddrive,  ls -l /home   and you can see what user directories exist
[04:28] <PriceChild> roberth_, boot using the second option on grub to get a root shell. You can then change user passwords from that
[04:28] <ror> hit alt ctrl F2 and start tryin'
[04:28] <mroc> PriceChild, hwilde55:    so where should i go from here?
[04:28] <Paddy_EIRE> !grub
[04:28] <mroc> how do i check permissions/what am i looking for?
[04:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:28] <DgrMouse> got it
[04:28] <fivetwentysix> What is the default hotkey to open terminal?
[04:28] <PriceChild> fivetwentysix, there isn't one afaik
[04:28] <hwilde55> mroc, why don't you try installing a different window manager... maybe gnome is broken somehow
[04:28] <MukiEX> How do I load gdm or kdm from the terminal?
[04:28] <fliper_> roberth_ have u a second acc ?
[04:28] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: yeah its not bad but its seasoned so i need to design a new one which may be coming up soon
[04:28] <hwilde55> !gdm | MukiEX
[04:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:29] <PriceChild> MukiEX, sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[04:29] <fliper_> roberth_ just to log in?
[04:29] <hwilde55> MukiEX, try running 'startx'
[04:29] <MukiEX> thanks :3
[04:29] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: then i will use this one for an ftp server
[04:29] <PriceChild> hwilde55, x != ?dm ;)
[04:29] <visualdeception> diablos_raven, have you tried the # #beryl. might get better help than what I am trying
[04:29] <MukiEX> hwilde55 : startx loads gnome directly, I'm trying to get the manager ;)
[04:29] <PriceChild> MukiEX, use my command exactly.
[04:29] <PriceChild> MukiEX, don't bother changing the "?"
[04:29] <mroc> hwilde55:  how would i boot into that new wm instead of gnome once it's installed?
[04:29] <MukiEX> thanks
[04:30] <hwilde55> mroc, umm hopefully it would install itself
[04:30] <rausb0> mroc: you have to select it when logging in via gdm or kdm
[04:30] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: actually im not too worried about beryl right now as much as i am wine im mainly trying to figure out if i need to register cadega and pay the loot for it or not preferably not bu tyou never know
[04:30] <hwilde55> mroc, I would try kde or xfce and see if the problem is just with gnome
[04:30] <brasko> anyone know how I can get firefox to stop crashing on me? version 2.0.0.3
[04:30] <hwilde55> !cedega | diablos_raven
[04:30] <ubotu> diablos_raven: cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[04:30] <Jocke> Those Dell-computers with Ubuntu preinstalled, are they using graphics cards that needs proprietary (non-free) software for 3D-accelerating?
[04:30] <tawooh> how do i log in as the root user??
[04:31] <PriceChild> brasko, disable any plugins you have installed is the first step.
[04:31] <mroc> thanks to PriceChild, hwilde55, rausb0   -  i'll give it a shot
[04:31] <PriceChild> !sudo | tawooh
[04:31] <ubotu> tawooh: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:31] <gordboy> tawooh: ubuntu ?
[04:31] <brasko> PriceChild: it's stock, afaik
[04:31] <PriceChild> brasko, just check for me :)
[04:31] <fliper_> brasko unistall it reboot install that worked for me (a long time ago)
[04:31] <tawooh> yup
[04:31] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: but thanks for the assistance
[04:31] <visualdeception> diablos_raven: what game are you trying to play?
[04:31] <brasko> fliper_: are you using windows or ubnutu? The reboot sounds sketchy
[04:31] <fotoflo> hey, ive got two soundcards, how do i tell all my apps which one to use
[04:31] <fotoflo> ?
[04:32] <gordboy> tawooh: it's not what you'll hear in #ubuntu, but i did sudo su -, and then passwd, to set a root password
[04:32] <diablos_raven> hwilde55: i know what cadega is but im not sure i want to fork over the loot for it if i can get wine to work
[04:32] <fliper_> ubuntu
[04:32] <userveadm> with the use of vsftpd, how can i create a user and where and how should i create _his_ 'folder'?
[04:32] <CheshireViking> Jocke, from what I looked at for the laptop, it was using an intel graphics, but not sure what the driver needed will be
[04:32] <diablos_raven> visualdeception: im trying to play warlord battlecry 2
[04:32] <kipman> My install of ubuntu server 7.04 is hanging at "install
[04:32] <Jocke> okay
[04:32] <brasko> I don't have any extensions installed, is there a simple way to check for plugins?
[04:32] <gordboy> fotoflo: they are hw:0 and hw:1
[04:32] <kipman> My install of ubuntu server 7.04 is hanging at "installed update-manager-core" - any ideas?
[04:32] <fotoflo> err and where do i select them?
[04:33] <kbrosnan> brasko: about:plugins in the address bar
[04:33] <fliper_> brasko from firefox menu i think...also i think its on favorites
[04:33] <hwilde55> fotoflo, sudo asoundconf list,    sudo asoundconf set-default-card cardnameherefromlist
[04:34] <brasko> ok, I have 2 plugins, application/x-shockwave-flash and application/futuresplash
[04:34] <demonspork> what is a good program for Ubuntu to make and burn CD/DVD ISO files?
[04:34] <gordboy> fotoflo: in the sound apps. like preferneces -> sound system -> alsa -> device
[04:34] <demonspork> !ISO
[04:34] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:34] <demonspork> nvm
[04:34] <tawooh> so in order to run qtparted in root user, what would be the procedure??
[04:34] <hwilde55> tawooh, sudo qtparted
[04:34] <brasko> geez, this is wierd. I have have 2 flash players?
[04:34] <fotoflo> gordboy, what about firefox?
[04:35] <brasko> libflash-mozplugin.so, Version 0.4.12 compatible with Shockwave Flash 4.0 and libflashplayer.so Flash 9.0 r31
[04:35] <brasko> is that the source of the problem?
[04:35] <kbrosnan> brasko: gpl flash and adobe flash likely
[04:35] <brasko> what should I do? any suggestions?
[04:35] <kbrosnan> brasko: remove the gpl flash
[04:36] <SlimG> Does anyone know of specific- or have a link to a list to- Gnome-based C++ developement tools?
[04:36] <onats> does anyone have any idea with logitech wireless mouse problems?
[04:36] <brasko> ok, sorry I'm such a newb with firefox, is there a nice way to uninstall plugins, or am I off to a README file somewhere?
[04:36] <hwilde55> onats, I have logitech wireless mouse no problems
[04:36] <tommie-lie> SlimG: http://www.gtkmm.org
[04:36] <gordboy> fotoflo: ok then. you are best choosing which soundcard you want, and disabling the other one. firefox uses hw:0 by default
[04:36] <demonspork> what is a good program for Ubuntu to make and burn CD/DVD ISO files?
[04:36] <onats> hwilde55, what distro version you using?
[04:36] <preaction> SlimG: if you want a UI-designer, consider Glade.
[04:36] <hwilde55> !burn | demonspork
[04:36] <ubotu> demonspork: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:36] <kbrosnan> brasko: the synaptic package manager should have the libflash listed
[04:36] <predaeus> SlimG, anjuta
[04:36] <hwilde55> onats, I have used the mouse in distros 5.10, 6.06, 6.10, 7.04
[04:36] <fotoflo> err i have them for different purposes
[04:36] <sldkfj> onats, what's the problem you're having?
[04:37] <mroc> hwilde55:  ok, well kde seems to work properly  --  so if the problem is gnome, how do I correct it?
[04:37] <demonspork> so do I have to be running KDE to install K3b?
[04:37] <hwilde55> mroc, from kde you can probably reinstall gnome?
[04:37] <predaeus> demonspork, no
[04:37] <hwilde55> demonspork, just put in a blank cd it is EASY
[04:37] <onats> sldkfj, the mouse works for a few minutes, then after that, it stops functioning... i have both a wireless keyboard and mouse, talking to one basestation/charger..
[04:37] <dbrewer_rjr> i set up a virtual mail server in feisty, following instructions for edgy, and there was no patch for quota on the version of postfix that i loaded. Is the latest version of postfix already quota enabled?
[04:37] <SlimG> thanks alot tommie-lie, preaction and predaeus !
[04:37] <gordboy> fotoflo: well you can make them load in the order you want. in /etc/modprobe.conf.
[04:37] <hwilde55> onats, you have checked the batteries?
[04:38] <mroc> hwilde55:  ok then, what's the best way to go about reinstalling gnome?
[04:38] <fotoflo> ok
[04:38] <fotoflo> thanks
[04:38] <hwilde55> mroc, I dunno maybe PriceChild can explain how to reinstall gnome
[04:38] <demonspork> hwilde55 I am making an ISO to install windows in VMWARE
[04:38] <dbrewer_rjr> are any of the heavy-hitters in here yet today?
[04:38] <PriceChild> hwilde55, no need to reinstall gnome
[04:39] <mroc> hwilde55:  ok, thanks.  i appreciate all the help.
[04:39] <hwilde55> PriceChild, reinstall nautilus atleast - it is broken
[04:39] <dbrewer_rjr> i set up a virtual mail server in feisty, following instructions for edgy, and there was no patch for quota on the version of postfix that i loaded. Is the latest version of postfix already quota enabled?
[04:39] <PriceChild> hwilde55, still should be no need
[04:39] <gordboy> fotoflo: just out of curiosity, which cards have you got ?
[04:39] <hwilde55> demonspork, seriously, just put in a blank cd, it will give you options to burn.  or read the links from ubotu
[04:39] <tawooh> what does it mean when qtparted says to make sure all partitions are unmounted before making changes, how do i know the drive i am formatting is unmounted or w/e??
[04:39] <PriceChild> hwilde55, usually just the user configuration
[04:39] <hwilde55> !burn | demonspork
[04:39] <ubotu> demonspork: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:39] <mroc> PriceChild:  ideas on how i should fix things then?
[04:39] <userveadm> Anyone familiar with vsftpd?
[04:39] <pequatre> hi. anyone using skype could help me ? it seems my mic is working yet i can't hear the sound of it in my headphones when calling Skype Test Call (although i can record a message)
[04:39] <ticky> does anybody how can i configure ubuntu to reconnect automatically when i get disconnected from my adsl provider?
[04:40] <hwilde55> PriceChild, ok well I have no clue which setting is broken, so my only suggestion to him is reinstall gnome since kde seems to work fine.
[04:40] <hwilde55> !dsl | ticky
[04:40] <ubotu> ticky: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:40] <preaction> pequatre: why would you want to hear yourself talk?
[04:40] <brasko> Thanks, hopefully that will work
[04:40] <pequatre> preaction, usually that's what happens when you use a phone
[04:40] <demonspork> hwilde55 I am not trying to burn a disk, I am making an ISO of a disk that I already have
[04:40] <dbrewer_rjr> ubotu: i set up a virtual mail server in feisty, following instructions for edgy, and there was no patch for quota on the version of postfix that i loaded. Is the latest version of postfix already quota enabled?
[04:40] <preaction> pequatre: if the other people on the call can hear you (if you hear your voice back on the test call), then it's working
[04:40] <fotoflo> gord: cheap chinese shit
[04:40] <ticky> thanks hwilde55
[04:41] <pequatre> preaction, do you use skype under linux ?
[04:41] <preaction> pequatre: most phone calls i make i don't hear myself in my ear-speaker
[04:41] <preaction> pequatre: no, under OSX using a noise-cancelling headset
[04:41] <hwilde55> demonspork, http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion
[04:41] <pequatre> preaction, then how can you tell if you speak too loud ?
[04:41] <gordboy> fotoflo: i have a via 8237 onboard and a m-audio 2496. i ditched the 8237, by deleting its modules
[04:42] <simon___> I get this error message when i log on and when i click ok my desktop crashes: Your session only lasted less than 10 seconds.  If you have not logged out yourself, this could mean that there is some installation problem or that you may be out of diskspace.  Try logging in with one of the failsafe sessions to see if you can fix this problem.
[04:42] <preaction> pequatre: the test call, or have your listeners tell you. it's that way on our skype conference calls, the speaker never knows how loud they are
[04:42] <hwilde55> fotoflo, sudo asoundconf list,    sudo asoundconf set-default-card cardnameherefromlist
[04:42] <simon___> i am now logged on in failsafe
[04:42] <hwilde55> fotoflo, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=499520
[04:42] <ticky> hwilde55: thanks but that doesn't say anytthing about AUTO-RECONNECT
[04:42] <tinh_> how to delete menu entry in Feisty?
[04:42] <pequatre> preaction, so that's the same under windows ?
[04:42] <fotoflo> cool
[04:42] <fotoflo> thanks
[04:42] <gordboy> simon___: have you been messing around with /etc/profile & /etc/bash.bashrc ?
[04:42] <preaction> pequatre: i can say it's the same under OSX, i can't say if it's the same under windows
[04:42] <hwilde55> ticky, when you log into your dsl modem and create the connection profile there should be an automatic option
[04:43] <ticky> tinh_: SYSTEM >> PREFERENCES >>MAIN MENU
[04:43] <pequatre> preaction, ok thanks. that seems strange to me but if that's the way it is...
[04:43] <simon___> it happened after i tried to change my splash screen and login theme
[04:43] <ticky> hwilde55: where can i check that?
[04:43] <tinh_> it doesn't have the delete button
[04:43] <simon___> more error details here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23090/
[04:43] <hwilde55> ticky, do you have a dsl modem?
[04:43] <ticky> hwilde55: yes
[04:43] <ticky> i' ve already set up pppoeconf
[04:44] <hwilde55> ticky, how do you log in to your dsl modem?  http://192.168.0.1 ?
[04:44] <tawooh> i have formatted a drive using qtparted, now how do i mount said drive??
[04:44] <mroc> PriceChild:  just want to make sure i didn't get forgotten - any ideas on how to fix my gnome / nautilus troubles?
[04:44] <ticky> hwilde55: i don't know... i've never logged
[04:44] <PriceChild> mroc, i don't know sorry
[04:44] <hwilde55> simon___, uninstall compiz and gdesklets
[04:44] <dr_willis> tawooh,  edit the fstab manually, or mount it manually, or  i think theres a tool to make those tasks  more friendly.
[04:44] <simon___> i also installed some desklets and other startup programs and thought i could trie to deactivate them. but my sessions screen wont open. How can i deacticate startup programs without?
[04:44] <hwilde55> !fstab | tawooh
[04:44] <ubotu> tawooh: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[04:45] <Voodoonix> anyone here good with ati?
[04:45] <tinh_> there are some entries in the menu, but they doesn't show in the System->Preference->Main Menu :(
[04:45] <hwilde55> !ati | Voodoonix
[04:45] <ubotu> Voodoonix: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:45] <simon___> can u tell me how to uninstall them through terminal. and i don't have compiz, only beryl...
[04:45] <foxiness> is it safe to use rcconf with ubuntu ?
[04:45] <hwilde55> simon___, apt-get remove
[04:45] <mroc> PriceChild:  i don't mind reinstalling gnome if that's likely to fix the problem (overkill as it may be).  can you tell me the best way to reinstall it?
[04:45] <tinh_> ticky, there are some entries in the menu, but they doesn't show in the System->Preference->Main Menu :(
[04:45] <PriceChild> mroc, I don't think it will fix it
[04:46] <dr_willis> 'reinstalling things' is windows mentality - that rarely works under linux.
[04:46] <mroc> PriceChild:   ok - i appreciate the help you were able to give though.  thanks.
[04:46] <ticky> tinh_: you select them ones you want to remove:, right click and choose delete, or just uncheck them if you want to hide them
[04:47] <PriceChild> mroc, I suggest creating a new user, logging in with them and seeing if their fresh defaults work.
[04:47] <dr_willis> A good test of gnome issues. is to try a new user. see if the problem affecyts them - if  the problem dosent affect the new user . then somthing in your other users gnome settings  is confusing gnome.
[04:47] <dbrewer_rjr> i set up a virtual mail server in feisty, following instructions for edgy, and there was no patch for quota on the version of postfix that i loaded. Is the latest version of postfix already quota enabled?
[04:47] <danboid> Is there a known problem with feisty (ubuntustudio) and Audigy 2 cards? I've checked the main volume and pcm are turned right up yet the sound is very, very quiet. if I reboot into suse the sound is fine
[04:47] <socomm> Quick question.
[04:47] <tinh_> ticky, but the problem is some of them doesn't show up the the Main Menu, how can I delete them?
[04:47] <mroc> PriceChild, dr_willis:    ok, i'll give that a shot.   thanks.
[04:47] <SerCanii> hi .... How can I stop "en-language writing - spell checking" ??? in ubuntu 7.04
[04:47] <tinh_> ticky, can you show me here is the Main Menu located in the filesystem?
[04:48] <ticky> tinh_: where are they then?
[04:48] <hwilde55> dr_willis, PriceChild,  what user settings are gnome specific?
[04:48] <fivetwentysix> If a new version of Ubuntu comes out, how do I update without re-installing my whole operating system?
[04:48] <tinh_> ticky, yes, I want to do it manually!
[04:48] <hwilde55> !update | fivetwentysix
[04:48] <ubotu> fivetwentysix: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[04:48] <PriceChild> hwilde55, I don't understand sorry.
[04:48] <foxiness> is there a room for non-newbie question?
[04:48] <ticky> tinh: where are they?
[04:48] <dr_willis> hwilde55,  each user has a .gnome* and .gconf* dir i belive. lots of settings in there.
[04:49] <tinh_> ticky, for example, there is a entry in the Application->Programming-> NetBeanIDE
[04:49] <hwilde55> PriceChild, you say create a new user and see, I am wondering which user settings are gnome specific.  see dr_willis response .gnome* .gconf*
[04:49] <socomm> How /clear
[04:49] <PriceChild> hwilde55, well yeah everything?
[04:49] <tinh_> ticky, but this one doesn't existed in the System->Preference->Main Menu
[04:49] <ticky> tinh_:you cannot find it in the main menu editor?
[04:49] <socomm> Sorry. How can I go about adding a user to the sudo group?
[04:49] <tinh_> ticky, no I can't
[04:49] <PriceChild> socomm, you need to add them into the group "admin"
[04:49] <hwilde55> socomm, /etc/groups
[04:50] <melina> Hello, I want to use all the applications in my native language (greek). How can I do that?
[04:50] <hwilde55> !greek | melina
[04:50] <ubotu> melina: #ubuntu-gr  #kubuntu-gr     /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes
[04:50] <socomm> I've tried "addgroup sudo", but that doesn't seem to work.
[04:50] <PriceChild> socomm, are you using gnome
[04:50] <jatt> uhhh the question was in english
[04:50] <sldkfj> foxiness, what?  you think there is no one here that can answer a non-newb question?
[04:50] <socomm> Thanks alot.
[04:50] <melina> hwilde55: the answer should be the same for any language, and the greek channel is quite dead.
[04:50] <tinh_> ticky, that's why I want to know about the physical location of these menu items
[04:51] <tinh_> so that I can delete them manually
[04:51] <PriceChild> socomm, system > admin > language support
[04:51] <hwilde55> melina, system -> admin -> language support
[04:51] <Tom_Kun_> melina, you can start by checking out system --> administration --> language support :)
[04:51] <sipior> echo in here?
[04:51] <Tom_Kun_> bah, beat me to it :)
[04:51] <melina> thank you all :P
[04:51] <PriceChild> whoops that wasn't to you sorry socomm
[04:51] <alternate_nick> part
[04:51] <socomm> PriceChild: No worries.
[04:51] <socomm> Thanks all.
[04:51] <PriceChild> socomm, so use the gnome users and groups dialogue to add them
[04:52] <sipior> patient fellow
[04:52] <melina> Tom_Kun_: hwilde55 PriceChild: In KDE? ^_^
[04:52] <SerCanii> hi .... How can I stop "en-language spell checking" ??? in ubuntu 7.04
[04:52] <hwilde55> !patience
[04:52] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[04:52] <Bakefy> One of my hard drives is not mounted anymore... how can I check to see if its still connected?
[04:52] <PriceChild> hwilde55, ?
[04:52] <aoirthoir> melina, the program itself will have had to been localized. Even if something is in the repositories, it might not have been localized by the author or another team. But a lot of them are localized.
[04:52] <sipior> hwilde55: bit late now!
[04:52] <rainbowsdonthide> I deleted my bottom panel somehow, so I thought "no biggie" and I made a new panel placing my desktop selector, just like how it was before... but because I made the panel myself, when I minimize stuff it doesn't even show it on the bottom bar... how do I get it to do that... can I revert my bottom panel to the one that shows minimized programs or what?
[04:52] <ticky> tinh_: give me a minute. i'm looking into
[04:53] <melina> aoirthoir: most of the KDE apps (amarok etc.) must be localised
[04:53] <roberth_> hwilde55: any idea?
[04:53] <tinh_> ticky, thanks alot!
[04:53] <aoirthoir> melina, I think you are right.
[04:53] <foxiness> sldkfj: no just to get some attention, coz i ask more that 3 question about (init,runlevel,rcconf,inittab) with no answer at all ,and i wonder if ubuntu make change to this room and create another one for more adv question.
[04:53] <Tom_Kun_> melange, nah, in gnome.. in kde you can alter: system -> language support -> default language
[04:54] <kitche> foxiness: ther is #upstart if you want to ask about upstart questions
[04:54] <aoirthoir> foxiness, you could create a room like that:) and there are other rooms for specific types of ubuntu questions. Myself I rely on canonical support, its assured to work:)
[04:54] <tawooh> okay, when i view my fstab file, it actually is so confusing i have a headache... i am reading the help and it is saying it should look one way, and it looks completely different, am i doing something wrong??
[04:54] <kritzstapf> rainbowsdonthide: you have to add a panel called "window list" or something, i only know the german name
[04:55] <rainbowsdonthide> kritzstapf OK, in settings or... where is it?
[04:55] <kitche> tawooh: ubuntu uses uuid's in the fstab
[04:55] <jatt> which is a pain in the neck
[04:55] <fivetwentysix> Sigh i'm only using 283mb of my 2gb of ram
[04:55] <foxiness> kitche: k thanks for this advice i will join it
[04:55] <le> salut
[04:56] <tawooh> okay, so how do i read this, and how can i tell which partition is which??
[04:56] <fivetwentysix> I need to find a way to use more memory
[04:56] <aoirthoir> le salut.
[04:56] <thomax__> does anyone know a console app to read mp3 headers
[04:56] <thomax__> ?
[04:56] <le> j'essai pour la prmire fois ca marche
[04:56] <Bakefy> what is the command to see what devices are connected?
[04:56] <CheshireViking> !fr | le
[04:56] <ubotu> le: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:56] <Bakefy> as far as hard disks
[04:56] <kkathman> fivetwentysix,  you could switch to Vista - that would run you outa memory :)
[04:56] <simon___> Hi. Ok now i have unsintalled compiz and gdesklets and this are the "only" errors i get now: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23094/
[04:56] <kritzstapf> rainbowsdonthide: right click on the panel and then sth like "add to panel.."
[04:56] <le> tu me vois?
[04:56] <kitche> Bakefy: mount to see what's mounted
[04:56] <fivetwentysix> kkathman I don't think I'd ever use vista.
[04:57] <Bakefy> thanks!
[04:57] <rainbowsdonthide> Oh ok, thanks kritzstapf
[04:57] <simon___> It is my desktop that keeps crashing
[04:57] <kkathman> fivetwentysix,  joke
[04:57] <aoirthoir> tawooh, you can pm me. But I would have to see your fstab to interpret for you. You could use a pastebin
[04:57] <fivetwentysix> To be honest, I think Vista was a joke from Microsoft
[04:57] <drew> fivetwentysix vista is awesome! id trade all my performance for some glass look.
[04:57] <dr_willis> fivetwentysix,  they got to stir stuff up - just to confuse people eveyr so often
[04:58] <kkathman> fivetwentysix,  its not as bad as linux peeps make it out to be - like all OSs it has its drawbacks :)
[04:58] <SerCanii> vista rulez
[04:58] <PriceChild> !offtopic | drew fivetwentysix kkathman
[04:58] <ubotu> drew fivetwentysix kkathman: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:58] <kkathman> yeah yeah
[04:58] <kkathman> lol
[04:58] <codecaine> whats a good torrent program to use?
[04:58] <simon___> Hi. My desktop keeps crashing. I get this error when i log on: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23094/ PLS HELP
[04:58] <drew> vista is only good on a 4,000$ pc thats if you buy it today
[04:58] <PriceChild> codecaine, I love rtorrent
[04:58] <PriceChild> drew, you are offtopic.
[04:59] <Bogaurd> I'm having problems with the totem browser plugin - It wont stream any media in the browser window itself
[04:59] <codecaine> thanks
[04:59] <drew> PriceChild no i'm not, read up :p
[04:59] <PriceChild> codecaine, it is a cli app though ;)
[04:59] <sipior> drew: und zat is niet allowed!
[04:59] <PriceChild> !offtopic > drew
[04:59] <priich> codecaine, ktorrent is nice. Uses kde though.
[04:59] <codecaine> can u download multiple torrents on it?
[04:59] <PriceChild> codecaine, of course! :)
[04:59] <drew> wow, chill gd
[04:59] <SerCanii> >:o How can I stop "en-language spell checking" ??? in ubuntu 7.04 :-[
[05:00] <sipior> simon___: i assume this started after enabling desktop effects?
[05:00] <Bakefy> how do i see what hard drives are connected?
[05:01] <Bakefy> I guess, How do I see what hard drives are detected
[05:01] <CarlFK> Bakefy: dmesg
[05:01] <sipior> Bakefy: "cat /etc/mtab" will show mounted partitions, if that's what ou mean
[05:01] <dr_willis> Bakefy,  'sudo fdisk -l' is what i use.
[05:01] <simon___> no
[05:01] <simon___> I have had Beryl workin a long time with no problem. it suddenly came after i installed gdesklets and changed the splash and logon screen
[05:01] <Bakefy> Thanks everyone
[05:01] <mroc> dr_willis, or anyone else who was/wants to help:  creating a new gnome user gave no nautilus problems.    also, i've narrowed it down to just my home folder freezing nautilus...i can open other folders with no problem
[05:02] <Toma-> I need some help with my proftpd.conf :S My users cant login with active...
[05:02] <mroc> so i'm looking for how i could correct that problem
[05:03] <sipior> simon___: not sure why gdesklets would break things, but how did you change the splash screen? and which login screen did you change, if not the splash screen?
[05:03] <PriceChild> mroc, so that tells us there's no reason for reinstalling gnome, its your own configuration ;)
[05:04] <jenkins420> Is there a way to have multiple clocks on the panel?
[05:04] <mroc> PriceChild:   how would i go about finding what's causing the problem?
[05:04] <PriceChild> mroc, I don't know sory
[05:04] <sipior> jenkins420: doesn't just adding two of them work? i seem to remember doing that at one point
[05:04] <mroc> ok - i'll keep asking around then
[05:04] <jenkins420> i might be able to
[05:05] <sipior> jenkins420: yep, works for me
[05:05] <simon___> eh. i followed som recipe on the net... it told me to install gnome-splashscreen-manager.
[05:05] <simon___> This one: file:///home/simon/.mozilla/firefox/3h8vjmhw.default/ScrapBook/data/20070529150932/index.html
[05:05] <jenkins420> but, can you monitor multiple time zones that way?
[05:05] <PriceChild> simon___, that's a link to a file on your own computer ;)
[05:05] <sipior> simon___: that's not going to work :-)
[05:06] <cdavis> when I try to remove apache it leaves the config files there, what is the best way to remove config files of a .deb?  when I remove something I want it completely removed
[05:06] <CarlFK> what protocol should be used with a print device that is listening on ports 515 and 631 ?
[05:06] <sipior> cdavis: the purge option should do that
[05:06] <SlimeyPete> cdavis: use --purge when you remove the deb, iirc
[05:06] <jenkins420> sipior: is it possible to set each clock to a different time zone?
[05:06] <cdavis> sipior, thanks
[05:06] <cdavis> SlicerDicer-, thanks
[05:06] <stefg> !apt | cdavis
[05:06] <ticky> tinh_: are you there?
[05:06] <ubotu> cdavis: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:06] <tinh_> ticky, I'm still here
[05:06] <cdavis> SlimeyPete, thanks
[05:06] <sipior> jenkins420: perhaps you can try and let us know...
[05:06] <ticky> tinh_: you have to look in the folder: usr/share/applications/
[05:07] <ticky> sorry: /usr/share/applications/
[05:07] <tinh_> okies
[05:07] <sipior> jenkins420: although i'm guessing not, the timezone should be system-wide
[05:07] <mroc> is anyone able to help correct this problem:   nautilus freezes when i try to open my home folder (but other folders don't freeze it).  things work fine for other user accounts.  how can i fix this?
[05:08] <Lin> hi all! Ubuntu Feisty isn't starting WPA supplicant (yes it is correctly configured) on boot. But after a ifdown / ifup it starts. Any know bug / workaround? Im with the latest updates.
[05:08] <tinh_> thanks ticky !
[05:08] <simon___> oh
[05:08] <simon___> sorry. scrapbook: this is the right link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694&nojs=1#goto_threadtools
[05:08] <simon___> sipior
[05:08] <dr_willis> lin  could put ifup/ifdown in the rc.local script. BUt thats not a really good fix.
[05:09] <simon___> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77694&highlight=Setup+Desktop%2FEyecandy
[05:09] <stefg> mroc: are there lots of pics and movies in that folder (which nautilus tries to thumbnail) ?
[05:09] <mroc> no
[05:09] <mroc> mainly folders
[05:09] <mroc> < 25 items
[05:09] <Lin> dr_willis: it isn't a good fix.. but a workround. Thank you for the fast thought. I havent done it myself.. Very good indeed ;-)
[05:10] <ticky> tinh_: you can use the find command to look for the files with that content. but  i don't know how to use the find command
[05:10] <sipior> simon___: i can't see how these would generally be related to the error
[05:10] <stefg> mroc: just for good measure you could try to delete .thumbnails though
[05:10] <SerCanii> :-[ how can I stop - close.... eng spell checking ???? :-/
[05:10] <sipior> simon___: do you still have compiz installed?
[05:10] <ticky> tinh_: http://ubuntufs.wordpress.com/2007/05/15/add-menu-items-in-gnome/
[05:11] <sipior> simon___: also, can you choose a "safe" login and get in that way?
[05:11] <mroc> stefg:   ok.  will that get recreated automatically after deletion?
[05:11] <Rio79> i dont understand this nomenclature?  does this mean that is it essentially a shortcut? (maintenance -> /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/maintenance) how do i edit/change it?
[05:11] <simon___> i'm in failsafe now
[05:11] <simon___> i did apt-get remove compiz
[05:11] <stefg> mroc: yup, that's just a cache
[05:11] <simon___> but i did not reove beryl...
[05:11] <simon___> *remove
[05:11] <tinh_> ticky, find -iname filename /location
[05:11] <st3-f> moin. wie kann ich einem user rechte auf einen ordner geben, der in / liegt?
[05:12] <sipior> simon___: it's an odd error, and you may want to reinstall compiz and see if that sorts the problem
[05:12] <stefg> st3-f: #ubuntu-de
[05:12] <simon___> do  think so... apt-get install compiz?
[05:12] <mroc> stefg:  don't remember the command line way to delete a folder - refresh my memory?
[05:12] <dave-ubu> !de
[05:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:12] <PriceChild> mroc, rmdir
[05:12] <st3-f> stefg: mist - danke
[05:12] <st3-f> Sorry
[05:12] <simon___> do i need to install ubuntu-effects too?
[05:12] <sipior> simon___: another possibility might be a bad configuration file, and you could test that by moving .gconfd temporarily
[05:12] <mroc> pricechild:  ah, right.   thanks
[05:12] <stefg> rm -rf ~/.thumbnails
[05:12] <sipior> simon___: not sure, but probably can't hurt
[05:13] <ticky> tinh_: well. not the file name exactly but the contents of all the files in that dir
[05:13] <simon___> could you please elaborate... where is gconfid, where do i move it?
[05:13] <Rio79> i typed "ls -l" and it shows this..."maintenance -> /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/maintenance".  is it just a shortcut? how do i change it?
[05:13] <tinh_> ticky, I have nevery searched for the file content before
[05:13] <sipior> simon___: .gconfd is a dierctory in your home (note the preceding dot). just move it to .gconfd.bak or something
[05:14] <tinh_> ticky, it's rather late here, thanks for your help, I go to bed now
[05:15] <mroc> stefg:   didn't seem to change anything - should I restart gnome?
[05:15] <Rio79> should i use my powers of invisibility for good... or evil? =)
[05:15] <sipior> Rio79: evil, obviously
[05:15] <brunonoda> rsrs
[05:15] <Rio79> haha
[05:15] <Rio79> i typed "ls -l" and it shows this..."maintenance -> /usr/share/mediawiki1.7/maintenance".  is it just a shortcut? how do i change it?
[05:15] <stefg> mroc: actually shouldn't be necessary. must be something else
[05:15] <paolo>  hi. how can i redirect to a BINARY file stdout of a shell? thnks
[05:15] <roberth_> how do i recover an user as root?
[05:16] <mroc> stefg:  it was worth a shot though.  any other ideas?  (or anyone else for that matter?)
[05:16] <PriceChild> paolo, foo > foo.log ?
[05:16] <stefg> mroc: can you elaborate on 'nautilus crashes' ?
[05:16] <paolo> PriceChild: it shows me foo.log as txt
[05:16] <paolo> I want a binary file
[05:16] <qeed_> then use something like cp
[05:16] <sipior> paolo: you have to output a binary file to redirect!
[05:17] <paolo> i see sipior
[05:17] <stefg> mroc: any menaingful message if get a terminal and enter 'nautilus ~' there?
[05:17] <mroc> stefg:   not sure where to find error messages for this, but anytime i try to open my home folder in nautilus, a window opens and shows no icons - just remains frozen.  i kill the window, icons disappear from the desktop
[05:17] <mroc> stefg:   no, no errors at all
[05:18] <mroc> stefg:  it just returns to the command prompt and launches a frozen window
[05:18] <paolo> sipior: I receive with curl a continous flow of packets. i want to save them as a binary file
[05:18] <paolo> how can i do?
[05:18] <stefg> mroc: ok, if you just kill the window,it's better you restart your session
[05:18] <sipior> paolo: doesn't curl already do that?
[05:18] <simon___> sipior: and then restart, or restart x
[05:18] <simon___> ?
[05:18] <D0pamine> err , quick q , which package is glxgears in ?
[05:18] <mroc> stefg:  ok - be back in a min then
[05:18] <blackjackel> hmm rovclock does not seem to be REALLY overclocking my videocard
[05:18] <blackjackel> its oing it fake
[05:19] <paolo> sipior: there would be a flag
[05:19] <PriceChild> D0pamine, mesa-utils
[05:19] <sipior> paolo: --data-binary will do what you want, i think. check the man page
[05:19] <blackjackel> Is there a way to get my graphics card's current cpu and memory clocks?
[05:19] <D0pamine> PriceChild , thanks
[05:19] <tawooh> is there a way to see what the uuid of a drive i am trying to mount is??
[05:19] <paolo> sipior: thnks
[05:20] <Pelo> !uuid | BlackBsd304
[05:20] <ubotu> BlackBsd304: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:21] <g0ow> when i run beryl-manager, my window's title, and window borders disappear...can anyone help me resolve this crash?
[05:22] <kkathman> g0ow,  on beryl-manager, reload your window decorations
[05:22] <Pelo> g0ow, that's because you need to set a beryl theme,  ask in #beryl
[05:22] <g0ow> thank you
[05:22] <stefg> g0ow: #ubuntu-effects ( add Option "AddARGBVisuals" "true" to section driver of your xorg.conf)
[05:26] <Noodlesgc> i need some major help, my ubuntu cd would not boot, so i used alternate cd to install but when it got to the part configuring "gdm" it told me installation failed. I am on a gateway 400sd4 that has a mobility Radeon. I need help ASAP
[05:26] <mroc> stefg:  sorry that took so long.   i decided to restart the computer instead of just the session and did a "sudo shutdown now" which brought the system to the point of a message "init: rc1 main process (7039) killed by TERM signal"   and a root prompt.    gave the same command to the root prompt and it returned with "stopping system log daemon    fail" and single user mode.               is this system log thing related to the nautilus problems i'm hav
[05:26] <steveire> Hey. I've installed an AMP stack on my laptop, because I want to try out a few cmses for a website. I'd like for it to be possible for my friends to be able to connect wirelessly to the server on my laptop from their windows laptops. Is it possible?
[05:26] <roberth_> how do i recover an user?
[05:27] <fivetwentysix> I don't really know if this is the right place to ask this question but; is it dangerous to chmod my /var/www directory to 777
[05:27] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: yes
[05:28] <Azul> !restricted
[05:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:28] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: unless you want any user to have full rights
[05:28] <fivetwentysix> But if I'm the only user on this machine
[05:28] <PriceChild> fivetwentysix, that includes remote users
[05:28] <stefg> mroc: nah, this indicates a /real/ mess.... so you might just experiencing the top of an iceberg... have you fsck'd your drive / filesystem lately ?
[05:28] <kitche> fivetwentysix: well techinally your not the only user on the machine there is about 10 other users as well
[05:29] <fivetwentysix> well how do i give my self a
[05:29] <fivetwentysix> access to writing to the folder
[05:29] <PriceChild> fivetwentysix, add yourself to the group www-data
[05:29] <steveire> fivetwentysix: Should be ok then I think. Could you tell me about how your set up works? Anything like mine? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=456495
[05:29] <kitche> fivetwentysix: with sudo or add your user to www-data
[05:29] <mroc> stefg:  the automatic 30 mounts fsck came up yesterday.....so yes, pretty recently.
[05:29] <fivetwentysix> what's the default chmod of /var/www again?
[05:29] <Noodlesgc> i need some major help, my ubuntu cd would not boot, so i used alternate cd to install but when it got to the part configuring "gdm" it told me installation failed. I am on a gateway 400sd4 that has a mobility Radeon. I need help ASAP
[05:29] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: sudo adduser USER www-data
[05:29] <stefg> mroc: so any changes after reboot?
[05:30] <kitche> greyfrog: umm adduser is to add a user to the system not to add a user to a group
[05:30] <roberth_> what groups are the normal users member of by default?
[05:30] <greyfrog> kitche: also adds user to a group
[05:30] <kitche> roberth_: admin for first user created on install then just users after that
[05:30] <mroc> stefg:   ..... yeah, actually.   it seems to be working now.
[05:31] <roberth_> kitche: i need to create a new one and i cant find out what groups the other user is a part of
[05:31] <mroc> stefg:   what exactly solved the problem then?   the thumbnails cache?
[05:31] <fivetwentysix> greyfog how do see the chmod settings of a directory?
[05:31] <kitche> greyfrog: rather use usermod since useradd is not for that
[05:31] <stefg> mroc: i guess there were about 100 nautilus zombies in your memory before... they are gone now (reboot)
[05:31] <hetauma> can some1 tell me if with 7.04 live cd I can check my hdd for bad sectors? on both ntfs and ext3 partitions ?
[05:31] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: ls -la /var/www
[05:31] <greyfrog> kitche: I said to use adduser not useradd
[05:31] <kitche> greyfrog: same thing
[05:32] <Noodlesgc> can any please help??
[05:32] <mroc> stefg:    ok then.  well thank you for all your help.   is there anything i need to be careful of in the future, since this seemed to come out of nowhere?
[05:32] <steveire> !help
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[05:32] <greyfrog> kitche: man adduser says diferently
[05:32] <roberth_> kitche: any idea?
[05:32] <steveire> !ask
[05:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:32] <ipx> What's the name of the package that u need for compiling from sources? (blablabla-blablabla)
[05:32] <Noodlesgc> i need some major help, my ubuntu cd would not boot, so i used alternate cd to install but when it got to the part configuring "gdm" it told me installation failed. I am on a gateway 400sd4 that has a mobility Radeon. I need help ASAP
[05:32] <fivetwentysix> greyfog any way to do see it in number format?
[05:32] <kitche> roberth_: as I said admin is first user and users for the other uses in ubuntu
[05:33] <stefg> mroc: nothing particular, just keep in mind that killing a process's window does not necessarily kill the process
[05:33] <ph8> anyone know anything about creative x-fi support under ubuntu? (whether there is any)
[05:33] <roberth_> kitche: yes but what groups are the nromal user a part of?
[05:33] <kitche> roberth_: users
[05:33] <ipx> What's the name of the package that u need for compiling from sources? (blablabla-blablabla)
[05:33] <ipx> ah sry for spam
[05:33] <ipx> wrong window
[05:33] <nixternal> heh
[05:33] <mroc> stefg:   ok.  thanks to you and everyone else who helped me.
[05:33] <kitche> ipx: build-essential
[05:34] <ipx> Ah! kitche: thank you!
[05:34] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: not sure... remember r = 4, w = 2, x = 1... add up what you have to get the number (i.e. 7 = +rwx)
[05:34] <roberth_> kitche: and additional users?
[05:34] <ubuntu-rocks> hi guys, how do start the built in firewall in feisty from the command line, i was using webmin to do this but have temporarily disabled it?
[05:34] <kitche> roberth_: users for additional users also
[05:34] <roberth_> kitche: not audio, video etc?
[05:34] <rolemon> hi
[05:34] <kitche> roberth_: if you type groups in the terminal you can see what your user is part of
[05:35] <roberth_> ktche cant do that
[05:35] <PriceChild> ubuntu-rocks, it should be running by default
[05:35] <ticky> so does anybody know how to do tell me dls modem to reconnect automatically every time it disconnects from the internet?
[05:35] <Noodlesgc> !ati
[05:35] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:35] <ticky> DSL
[05:35] <kitche> roberth_: users on ubuntu I believe has all the stuff setup for audio video etc
[05:35] <fivetwentysix> so i should set /var/www to 744
[05:35] <fivetwentysix> right?
[05:36] <kitche> fivetwentysix: don't chmod anything just add your user to www-data
[05:36] <ubuntu-rocks> PriceChild - i think i did iptables -F to flush the rules, i want to reload the rules
[05:36] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: that would work... just make sure there are no files in the dir with sensitive info as it will be readable to the web
[05:37] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: chmod any specific files that you don't want readable
[05:37] <slange> hi, im having a little trouble with a shellscript on Ubuntu: Im trying to run this via the filebrowser (execute, not execute in shell), it should open a terminal, this works. But now my read -p and everything else is just ignored and the terminal closes instantly.
[05:37] <Quake> Hello there, how are thou?
[05:37] <Kanji_Man> Hello, I recently upgraded the amount of ram on my ubuntu machine from 512MB to 1GB but ubuntu (feisty fawn) still only shows 512MB. The BIOS shows 1GB on powerup. I installed ubuntu on a spare HD and it detected the full 1GB on the new installation. Is there a way for me to get ubuntu to redetect the amount of ram on my existing installation?
[05:38] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: if you are in the group www-data, you could also make it 764 so that you could write to the files in the dir
[05:38] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: else you'd need sudo to write to the files
[05:39] <stefg> Kanji_Man: not sure, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-generic ?
[05:39] <stefg> Kanji_Man:  or sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-`uname -r` ?
[05:40] <steveire> fivetwentysix: Is your local lamp installation anything like mine? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=456495 - I want to know what the right way to do this is.
[05:40] <ubuntu-rocks> how do i tell iptables to load, i've flushed the tables via iptables -F?
[05:40] <PriceChild> ubuntu-rocks, iptables should load on boot
[05:40] <h4wk0> !fonts
[05:40] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:40] <Kanji_Man> stafg: I tried that but it did not appear to do anything
[05:40] <noctiferis_>  /msg nickserv link <noctiferis> <ruithora>
[05:41] <PriceChild> noctiferis_, please choose a new password
[05:41] <ubuntu-rocks> yeah, but i've flushed the rules, i want to reload them, what is the command to do this?
[05:41] <PriceChild> noctiferis_, please do operations like that in the server tab
[05:41] <noctiferis_> yeah
[05:41] <PriceChild> noctiferis_, don't use <'s
[05:41] <noctiferis_> thx
[05:41] <stefg> Kanji_Man: sudo update-initramfs -u ?
[05:41] <PriceChild> noctiferis_, no space before the /
[05:41] <noctiferis_> sorry
[05:41] <slmnhq> hi all... i'm trying to compile a binary to run on a dapper system (libc6 2.3)... however, i'm making the build on edgy (libc 2.4) and running into an issue with loading the binary at runtime
[05:41] <PriceChild> noctiferis_, no need to be sorry, you're the one that showed us all your password ;)
[05:42] <ryancr> is there a way to remove the shadows off of the panel in gnome?
[05:42] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: if you have the rules in a file, all you need is to execute said file
[05:42] <slmnhq> how can i compile with v2.3 of libc on an edgy system?
[05:42] <Kanji_Man> stafg: is a reboot necessary to make those changes take affect?
[05:42] <stefg> Kanji_Man: yes, of course
[05:43] <Kanji_Man> Thank you I'll give it a try.
[05:43] <kitche> slmnhq: umm you can't really unless you make a chroot of a dapper system
[05:43] <ubuntu-rocks> i think i have the rules in iptable.up.rules
[05:43] <fivetwentysix> no steveire
[05:44] <fivetwentysix> I installed apache2 php5 and mysql5
[05:45] <ubuntu-rocks> iptables.up.rules is just the file that contain my rules, i need to tell iptables to load these rules i believe
[05:46] <bulmer> ubuntu-rocks: if the contents files is in the command line format understood by bash like iptables -P ....  you can re-run it
[05:46] <fivetwentysix> ok how do i change the group of afolder?
[05:46] <roaet> hello.
[05:46] <bulmer> but if its in the other various formats, use that tool to re-run it
[05:46] <roaet> Can ubuntu take advantage of multiple cores?
[05:46] <slmnhq> kitche: thanks
[05:46] <PriceChild> fivetwentysix, chmod user:group path/to/folder/
[05:47] <PriceChild> roadboy, yes. it dose with the -generic kernel
[05:47] <iamryno> anyone know anything about installing ubuntu on a mac?
[05:47] <kitche> PriceChild: aren't you thinking of chown instead of chmod?
[05:47] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: chown not chmod
[05:47] <steveire> OK. what about changing ports.conf. Did you see any need to do that?
[05:47] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: kitche is correct
[05:47] <roaet> PriceChild: is this -generic kernel something that needs to be selected during installation?
[05:47] <PriceChild> roaet, no its default
[05:48] <ubuntu-rocks> tried sudo iptables -P /etc/iptables.up.rules
[05:48] <ubuntu-rocks> i get iptables v1.3.6: -P requires a chain and a policy
[05:48] <roaet> Then, by default it supports multiple cores?
[05:48] <fivetwentysix>  sudo chown www-data /var/www?
[05:48] <SlimG> what's the name of Gnomes equivalent to KDEs kdialog ?
[05:48] <crdlb> SlimG, zenity
[05:49] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: sudo chown www-data:GROUP /var/www
[05:49] <mjr> roaet, yes
[05:49] <hydan> i was hoping someone could help me uninstall a program. i've located the uinstall program: "/usr/local/games/WoP/uninstall"
[05:49] <SlimG> thanks crdlb!
[05:49] <chaoui> coucou
[05:49] <PriceChild> !away > paul999|food
[05:50] <hydan> but i don't know how to execute the uninstall script properly
[05:50] <roaet> mjr:  thank you
[05:50] <fivetwentysix> screw it i'll just add my self to the root group
[05:50] <fivetwentysix> lol
[05:50] <hydan> i've tried ./filename, sh filename, and even just typed the name of the program in
[05:50] <PriceChild> hydan, in a terminal type "/usr/local/games/WoP/uninstall"
[05:50] <PriceChild> fivetwentysix, don't do that!!!
[05:50] <Noodlesgc> yeah bad idea
[05:50] <hydan> PriceChild, that hasn't worked
[05:50] <powernet> anyone may help with ltsp ?
[05:51] <PriceChild> hydan, what does it say?
[05:51] <jsizzle> anyone have a *working* E17 repo for feisty? dunnewind.net and edevelop.org seem to be down or gone
[05:51] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: what do you want the /var/www to be ?  www-data:?
[05:51] <hydan> PriceChild, "Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting."
[05:51] <greyfrog> fivetwentysix: if you want the command chmod or chown to recurse into deeper dirs, add the -R option
[05:52] <mc44> powernet: #edubuntu may be a better place to ask
[05:52] <PriceChild> hydan, I would be tempted to just rm -rf the folder and rm the symlinks in /usr/local/bin
[05:52] <Kanji_Man> stefg: that last command did not work. Any other suggestions? I suppose I could rebuild the install but I should think ubunto would be able to adjust for a ram upgrade
[05:52] <powernet> mc44 thanks !
[05:52] <PriceChild> hydan, but best you find the better way to do it...
[05:52] <fivetwentysix> PrinceChild how do i undo it then?
[05:52] <PriceChild> hydan, read their documentation?
[05:52] <PriceChild> fivetwentysix, undo what?
[05:52] <fivetwentysix> adding my self to the root group
[05:52] <hydan> i'll try reinstalling it again to see where everything goes.
[05:52] <PriceChild> fivetwentysix, you added yourself?
[05:52] <fivetwentysix> yeah
[05:52] <fivetwentysix> lol
[05:52] <noctiferis> hi how do I change my pswrd?
[05:52] <deefzi> how to add borders to text on gimp? on photoshop when i flatten layer, i can add borders but what to do in gimp in order to make borders?
[05:52] <onats> how should i be able to determine which is the right mouse protocol to use?
[05:52] <PriceChild> noctiferis, passwd
[05:53] <stefg> Kanji_Man: you can add the mem=1024M parameter to the boot line to force the use of 1 Gig
[05:53] <Kanji_Man> stafs: in grub?
[05:54] <stefg> Kanji_Man: but i'd find that behaviour is worth a bug report (if it turns out to be really the kernels fault). what does memtest86+ think about your ram?
[05:54] <fivetwentysix> PriceChild what do i do?
[05:54] <PriceChild> fivetwentysix, remove yourself the same way you added yourself?
[05:54] <onats> has anyone had any experience with their mouse that it suddenly stops working after a few minutes?
[05:55] <fivetwentysix> i dont know the remove user command
[05:55] <fivetwentysix> :-(
[05:55] <bruenig> deluser
[05:55] <fivetwentysix> ah ok
[05:55] <stefg> Kanji_Man: i only get a highlight when you type my nick right... tab autocompletes in most IRC clients
[05:55] <bruenig> userdel*
[05:55] <Kanji_Man> stefg: I have not run memtest, but the system runs fine with either stick.
[05:55] <PriceChild> fivetwentysix, no!
[05:55] <PriceChild> fivetwentysix, bruenig he doesn't want to remove the entire user
[05:55] <steveire> How do I set up a wireless network between my ubuntu laptop running an apache server and windows laptops so that they can access that server? Do I need samba?
[05:55] <Noodlesgc> Can any please tell my why my Ubuntu installation keeps failing at step "select and install software"?
[05:56] <stefg> Kanji_Man: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add it in the kernel line... but run memtest+ to see if it's a hardware or a software problem
[05:56] <sparrw> Is there a web stats program that can handle multiple sites on the same server without individual log files?
[05:57] <kitche> steveire: you just go to the ip in a web browser or do you need sharing
[05:57] <noctiferis> deluser
[05:57] <tecno_> for someone i HAVE TOSHIBA A100 063 ATHEROS WIFI doesn t work i have taken a LYNKSYS WUSB 54G C for 15 euro and it works very fine
[05:57] <noctiferis> delnoctiferis
[05:57] <kitche> noctiferis: ?
[05:57] <PriceChild> root, please don't irc as root!
[05:57] <root> what is up everyone? whhat is the package name off the w32codecs? and whweere can i find a better list oof sources?
[05:57] <Toma-> I need someone to test my ftp server :(
[05:58] <mc44> !w32codecs | root
[05:58] <ubotu> root: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[05:58] <onats> !mouse
[05:58] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:58] <FutureMarine> whats a good linux distro for my laptop
[05:58] <FutureMarine> ?
[05:58] <bruenig> arch
[05:58] <steveire> kitche: I want the apache server I've installed on my ubuntu laptop to be accessible to the windows laptops. We would need to be on the same network for an ip address to have any meaning, right?
[05:59] <Toma-> !hi
[05:59] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:59] <FutureMarine> whats a good linux distro for my laptop
[05:59] <Toma-> !repeat
[05:59] <PriceChild> FutureMarine, ubuntu?
[05:59] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[05:59] <kitche> steveire: not really
[05:59] <Toma-> FutureMarine: xubuntu?
[05:59] <UbuntuFTW> 64 bit version = mad compatibility problems with WINE+PC games?
[05:59] <jsizzle> elbuntu :)
[05:59] <hendrixski> LOL, that should say "Hi, welcome to #ubuntu, remember to turn off Join/Part if you want to stay sane"
[05:59] <FutureMarine> Yea I know it sounds wierd asking that question and Im in a ubuntu chat room
[06:00] <PriceChild> UbuntuFTW, yes there is no wine for 64bit
[06:00] <Azul> you are in ubuntu room, what distribution did you expect
[06:00] <PriceChild> !best | FutureMarine
[06:00] <ubotu> FutureMarine: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[06:00] <Azul> other factors?
[06:00] <jsizzle> any distro with better E17 repos than ubuntu has
[06:00] <FutureMarine> Im just having a hard time installing ubuntu and I have the system requirements, I want the latest and I downloaded xubuntu 7.04 and currently have is ubuntu 5.04
[06:00] <steveire> kitche: OK. Both laptops are in the same room, and both have wireless cards. What address do I go to on the windows one to access the apache server?
[06:00] <Toma-> UbuntuFTW: http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit#head-08d4087d863019523214064680fcf26721c9a1af
[06:01] <Azul> what is FTW?
[06:01] <bruenig> jsizzle, zenwalk and arch
[06:01] <UbuntuFTW> "for the win"
[06:01] <fivetwentysix> How do i see my list of groups?
[06:01] <kitche> steveire: the ip address of the apache server
[06:01] <bruenig> fivetwentysix, groups username
[06:01] <steveire> kitche: OK. How do I know that?
[06:01] <FutureMarine> I just need help installing ht xubuntu and its being a pain so Im stuck with ubuntu 5.04 but its not supported anymore
[06:02] <UbuntuFTW> PriceChild, Toma-: TY.....    Time to go reformat WITHOUT the dual boot!!!! Good bye Billy Gates!
[06:02] <kitche> steveire: umm ip should tell you on the apache server
[06:02] <jsizzle> bruenig: that's not the first time I've heard zenwalk and arch, are they both apt based for package management? either have an install with E17 as the desktop?
[06:02] <Toma-> UbuntuFTW: ho ho ho... great job. dont expect too much from wine tho.
[06:02] <raintheory> i'm having problems setting a disk label on an external drive with gParted...     it doesnt seem to work.    any ideas?
[06:02] <fivetwentysix> It says there's a www-data group but when i try to do sudo chown www-data:GROUP it says invalid group
[06:02] <raintheory> i cant create a partition because it wont create a disk label
[06:02] <FutureMarine> Has anyone been in my situation with xubuntu
[06:02] <jsizzle> anyone who hasn't tried E17 really should, it's not quite %100 stable but it's close enough and it looks amazing
[06:02] <bruenig> jsizzle, neither are apt based, neither have that is default, arch doesn't have any desktop as default.
[06:03] <bruenig> as*
[06:03] <kitche> fivetwentysix: :GROUP should be www-data and you don't need www-data infront of :
[06:03] <SlimG> FutureMarine: Your'e going to upgrade Ubuntu 5.10 to Xubuntu 7.04 ?
[06:03] <raintheory> is there a better channel for me to be asking gParted questions?
[06:03] <jsizzle> bruenig: what do they use? rpm?
[06:03] <FutureMarine> Yes but its a pain in the but
[06:04] <fivetwentysix> kitche i dont want to make www-data the owner
[06:04] <FutureMarine> well I want to switch
[06:04] <steveire> kitche: Do you mean 'it' should tell me? The apache server(on my laptop) is on 127.0.0.1. I can access it on my laptop, but 127.0.0.1 on the windows machine is the loopback for the windows machine. How do I access the ubuntu laptop?
[06:04] <Toma-> jsizzle: the underlying APIs are still getting development... its really not useable just yet :D (i used to use it before efreet killed everything)
[06:04] <FutureMarine> My laptop is only so powerfull
[06:04] <raintheory> !gparted
[06:04] <ubotu> GParted is is a !GUI partitioning program. Type  sudo apt-get install gparted  in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[06:04] <kitche> steveire: 127.0.0.1 is the loopback for any network
[06:04] <jsizzle> Toma: I'm using E17 right now, seems perfectly usable to me
[06:04] <compfreak219> I just upgraded from 6.10 to 7.04, but the installation is corrupted.  I'm boot up into it right now, but I need to repair it or reinstall it...
[06:05] <bruenig> jsizzle, zenwalk is tgz (slackware based) arch has its own package management they are .pkg.tar.gz, it uses pacman and is amazing. pacman has everything apt does and more. the arch package management is very impressive
[06:05] <SlimG> FutureMarine: What seems to be the problem then?
[06:05] <Toma-> jsizzle: give it a few weeks and raster will probably change something to break it :D
[06:05] <steveire> kitche: Right. I'm not sure you've understood my problem, but I don't know any other way to put it.
[06:05] <yuriy> hi, my lock screen seems to be broken
[06:06] <yuriy> i can log into the computer, but when i lock the screen from either kde or gnome, it says incorrect password when i try to unlock
[06:06] <kitche> steveire: I do understand it the apache server must have an outside ip 192.xx.xx. or so
[06:06] <compfreak219> google.com
[06:06] <FutureMarine> Everytime I put in the xubuntu alternate install cd it does fine after asking for the language keyboard type and country then it, after the hardware detection it stops
[06:06] <compfreak219> google.com
[06:06] <jsizzle> Toma: I won't know about it unless I switch distro's which ticks me off cuz I like ubuntu if I could just get some decent recent packages for it
[06:06] <steveire> kitche: Wouldn
[06:06] <compfreak219> gah!? wtf
[06:06] <steveire> 't that require a router?
[06:06] <jsizzle> the E17 repos for ubuntu are all about 4 months old
[06:06] <jsizzle> which is sad/ridiculous
[06:06] <FutureMarine> I want to install xubuntu so bad
[06:06] <Toma-> jsizzle: are you using the edevelop.org ubuntu repos?
[06:06] <kitche> steveire: no just requires a wireless card on the laptop
[06:06] <bruenig> jsizzle, arch is a rolling release model so it always has the latest packages, there is no version repos that get updated every 6 months, if it is packaged, it is in the repos
[06:06] <simon___> Hi. I'm the one whp had lots of trouble earlier... just to tell you that gnome-splashscreen-manager was the ap that made my desktop crash
[06:06] <simon___> Warning.
[06:07] <jsizzle> toma: trying to, they're down it seems
[06:07] <SlimG> FutureMarine: Try hitting Alt+F1, then you should be able to read an output on what went wrong and find a sollution to it
[06:07] <Toma-> jsizzle: right. hold on a tick
[06:07] <FutureMarine> ok
[06:07] <jsizzle> bruenig: that sounds cool
[06:07] <maan84> Anyone know if theres a nice program(s) for ubuntu if you wanna make your own music?=) ty
[06:07] <fivetwentysix> OK i don't get it
[06:08] <fivetwentysix> how do i set the group of a folder?
[06:08] <steveire> OK. Maybe I'm just making it complicated in my head. I'll try some 192.168.x.x and see what happens
[06:08] <bruenig> fivetwentysix, you want to chown it?
[06:08] <steveire> kitche: Thanks for the help
[06:08] <SlimG> maan84: http://ardour.org/
[06:08] <maan84> SlimG: thx ill check it out=)
[06:08] <raintheory> maan84, you should look at the packages for ubuntustudio
[06:08] <Toma-> jsizzle: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=319336 (The dunnewind repos are quite up-to-date, last i checked)
[06:09] <jsizzle> ubotu: tell maan84 ubuntustudio
[06:09] <fivetwentysix> bruenig i do sudo chown www-data:GROUP /var/www
[06:09] <fivetwentysix> But it returns invalid group
[06:09] <bruenig> fivetwentysix, does GROUP exist?
[06:09] <Toma-> maan84: wired, hydrogen, lmms, ardour... depends what you mean by make your own music
[06:09] <kitche> bruenig: he wants www-data to be group
[06:10] <fivetwentysix> bruenig I think so
[06:10] <FutureMarine> I hit alt F1 and it didnt do anything right now it just did the same thing just sit at the blue screen after hardware detection
[06:10] <maan84> thanks for all the tips:) ill google and check it all out=P
[06:11] <hrehf_> hm, my ps/2 keyboard doesn't work when i boot from the ubuntu cd?!
[06:11] <bruenig> fivetwentysix, oh if you want to change the group to www-data, do sudo chown :www-data /var/www
[06:12] <FutureMarine> I hit alt F1 and it didnt do anything right now it just did the same thing just sit at the blue screen after hardware detection
[06:12] <hendrixski> is there a way to change the settings for how often fsck runs?
[06:12] <fivetwentysix> omg bruenig that worked!
[06:12] <bruenig> not that amazing
[06:13] <hendrixski> can I change it to run fsck every 50 bootups not every 30?
[06:14] <charly> hola
[06:14] <fivetwentysix> OK i have another problem
[06:14] <charly> hola
[06:14] <fivetwentysix> When I type users in terminal
[06:14] <fivetwentysix> I get two of the same usernames
[06:14] <FutureMarine> I have a problem to I cant install xubuntu
[06:14] <fivetwentysix> In this case: ma ma
[06:15] <waspius> hi..can someone tell me where i can find the splash image setting so i can change it?and how i can change grub bootsplash image?
[06:15] <kitche> !usplash | waspius
[06:15] <ubotu> waspius: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[06:15] <waspius> kitche: i am running debian
[06:15] <piotrek> pls help, a dont have desktop effects in system>prefernces
[06:16] <kitche> waspius: so ask in #debian then
[06:16] <SlimG> FutureMarine: If you address my nick in your message like "SlimG: <message>"I will proably miss your messages
[06:16] <FutureMarine> o ok
[06:16] <FutureMarine> SlimG: <message> like this
[06:16] <SlimG> FutureMarine: try hitting Ctrl+C
[06:16] <FutureMarine> SlimG: or this
[06:17] <SlimG> FutureMarine: yes :)
[06:17] <SlimG> FutureMarine: yes :)
[06:17] <newbie42> Hi, where/who can I ask to help me with ntfs external HD write support on ubuntu?
[06:17] <FutureMarine> SlimG: it sat at the screen again and when I hit alt F1 it didnt do anthing
[06:17] <Tylerofl> alright, i made the mistake of installing KDE just to get rosegarden working. now that half the items installed on my computer are KDE specific programs i'll never use, is there any way to mass-uninstall these along with KDE, apart from manually removing everything that starts with k?
[06:17] <SlimG> FutureMarine: try hitting Ctrl+C instead
[06:18] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k
[06:18] <FutureMarine> SlimG: on the alternate cd for the xubuntu should I do the OEM or the text install?
[06:18] <stefg> !ntfs-3g | newbie42
[06:18] <ubotu> newbie42: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[06:18] <SlimG> FutureMarine: Text
[06:19] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k
[06:19] <coregrl> hello
[06:19] <piotrek> pls help, a dont have "desktop effects" in system>prefernces
[06:19] <alansii> hi
[06:19] <PriceChild> piotrek, you on feisty?
[06:19] <alansii>  anyone know how to have permission to copy file to bin
[06:19] <piotrek> yop
[06:20] <stefg> !sudo | alansii
[06:20] <ubotu> alansii: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:20] <coregrl> I've an acer travelmate 4600 and if I connect a projector to the vga connector it doesn't works..if Iboot letting it connected I see only by the projector and not on the lcd monitor :(
[06:20] <alansii> sudo /bin
[06:20] <alansii> some thing like sudo /bin
[06:20] <alansii> :-P
[06:21] <wols_> alansii: sudo cp
[06:21] <wols_> and to check how to use cp: man cp
[06:21] <FutureMarine> SlimG: I hit control c and it is doing the hardware detection
[06:21] <wols_> tho: why /bin? /usr/bin or better yet /usr/local/bin would probably be better choices
[06:21] <danub> hhello all. where do i change the config settings to allow my user to log in with ssh? it says failing publiic key
[06:22] <alansii> thanks all for helping me
[06:22] <stefg> coregrl: usually there's a hotkey to switch video-outputs (it's Fn-F4 on my compaq)
[06:22] <piotrek> pls help, a dont have "desktop effects" in system>prefernces
[06:22] <SlimG> FutureMarine: does the installation continue normally as nothing happened?
[06:22] <coregrl> stefg, yes I've but it doens't works..
[06:22] <coregrl> stefg in windows it works..
[06:22] <kitche> danub: your user should be able to login unless sshd is setup to use key's only
[06:22] <danub> ii checked taht... its not
[06:22] <hydan> this the second game where i've had problems uninstalling.
[06:22] <FutureMarine> SlimG: well it says its detecting it but now it says its sitting at 0 percent
[06:23] <danub> :(
[06:23] <jchia> Problems installing, had 6,10 Dapper when it was winXP, changed to win2k and install splash hangs?
[06:23] <stefg> coregrl: then you might need a special driver option in your xorg.conf
[06:23] <hydan> what are the command line calls to make an "uninstall" file executable?
[06:23] <coregrl> stefg, i suppose that but I didn't find something usefull on goole
[06:23] <danub> jchia, thats because windows is greedy and dont like that you have linux installled
[06:23] <SlimG> FutureMarine: Give it some minutes to change before trying to hit Ctrl+C again
[06:23] <ubuntu-rocks> how can a setup cron to kill a task by pid when i don't know the pid,  killall doesn't work 100% of the time?
[06:23] <danub> you will need to reinstall ur grub
[06:23] <kitche> hydan: chmod +x
[06:24] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k the wierd thing is that ubuntu 5.04 installed just fine
[06:24] <hydan> kitche, thanks but then what?
[06:25] <kitche> hydan: run the uninstall program
[06:25] <hydan> by using ./FILENAME or sh FILENAME?
[06:25] <jchia> danub: I am figureing that out now, How do I do full install and XXX windows out?
[06:25] <kitche> hydan: either or
[06:25] <FutureMarine> SlimG: well its just sitting at 0 percent and when I hit control c it doesnt do anything
[06:25] <hrehf_> hm, can anyone help me? im booting the 6.10 livecd (for an usb install - http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/25/usb-x-ubuntu-610 suggests using 6.10), and my ps2 keyboard isn't working at all - can't even switch numlock
[06:25] <danub> u want to get rid of windows complately?
[06:25] <danub> comppletely?
[06:26] <jchia> Sure
[06:26] <hydan> kitche: i still get the same output error, "Could not find a usable uninstall program. Aborting."
[06:26] <FutureMarine> SlimG: well its just sitting at 0 percent and when I hit control c it doesnt do anything
[06:26] <stefg> coregrl: see if this gives you some clue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/22985
[06:27] <danub> wwell, what i would do  is bboot up off a bottable disc and format, then install
[06:27] <hydan> chmod +x uninstall, ./uninstall
[06:27] <eifzon> hall
[06:27] <SlimG> FutureMarine: I will suggest you try installing the desktop version of Xubuntu, if that CD fails to boot you're able to hit Ctrl+F1 to get a proper output on what's wrong
[06:27] <hydan> oh and i sudo the commands as well.
[06:27] <Otacon22> !fsta
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fsta - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <Otacon22> !fstab
[06:27] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:27] <jchia> That is what I thought, but is better to ask then just do willy nilly and popoch everything
[06:28] <danub> tor u can juust load into safe mode (ddos pprompt) ->  type "fixmbr" & fixboot" ->  tthen restart, pop in disc and install linux
[06:28] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k I have that one too
[06:28] <SlimG> FutureMarine: ok
[06:29] <FutureMarine> SlimG: But I remember installing that one and what happen was that it kept saying it had a buffer error with the fd0 then after I enabled it, it has a hdc error
[06:29] <FutureMarine> SlimG: buffer error
[06:29] <jchia> danub: makes sence, thank you
[06:29] <iiioiooo> hiya! i just created a new partition with gparted, now i would like to mount that like the /home dir (name: /vmware)
[06:29] <danub> anytime
[06:30] <stefg> !fstab | iiioiooo
[06:30] <ubotu> iiioiooo: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[06:30] <iiioiooo> stefg: thx
[06:30] <jchia> Going full Ubuntu now and learning! again
[06:30] <Knightwse> heyhey
[06:30] <Knightwse> howyalldoin
[06:31] <bruenig> !howdy | Knightwse
[06:31] <ubotu> Knightwse: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:31] <Otacon22> I have setted in fstab a disk but I can't write on it, only read, why?I have setted fstab with:
[06:31] <Otacon22> /dev/sdb5       /media/Lacie    vfat    rw,exec,user,auto  0       0
[06:31] <SlimG> FutureMarine: I've encountered that error on newer Ubuntu installs too, I think it's a BIOS bug that got triggered by the newer Ubuntu versions, you should try updating you BIOS firmware.
[06:31] <Knightwse> been aaaages since iv been on irc
[06:31] <danub> interesting... root  can ssh but my user cant...
[06:31] <FutureMarine> SlimG: how do I do that
[06:31] <FutureMarine> SlimG: where do I go to upgrade it
[06:32] <skel> does anyone know of apt sources for zabbix 1.4 ?
[06:32] <rainbowsdonthide> how can I sign in as root user to modify things on the desktop as root and not just in the terminal??
[06:32] <bruenig> !info zabbix
[06:32] <ubotu> Package zabbix does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:32] <bruenig> rainbowsdonthide, you don't
[06:32] <rainbowsdonthide> oh... :-/ it's giving me weird errors about permissions bruenig
[06:32] <danub> exit
[06:33] <skel> its zabbix-server-mysql, but the latest in offical repositories is 1.1.4 and the most stable is 1.4
[06:33] <FutureMarine> SlimG: where do I go to upgrade it
[06:33] <LjL> !find zabbix
[06:33] <ubotu> Found: zabbix-agent, zabbix-frontend-php, zabbix-server-mysql, zabbix-server-pgsql
[06:33] <stefg> !diskmounter | Otacon22
[06:33] <ubotu> Otacon22: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[06:33] <MichaelMertel> hi there
[06:33] <Otacon22> tnx
[06:33] <SlimG> FutureMarine: You need to download the newest BIOS firmware from the manufacturer's site and their DOS tool for applying it, then you can download and boot "Hiren's BootCD" into dosmode and install the new firmware
[06:33] <hilz> Hi all. I am sure this q have been asked many times before, but i can't find an answer. is there an easy way to copy dvds in ubuntu?
[06:33] <Krazy> i booted to xp and formated the ubuntu drive, but on restart i can't get past GRUB
[06:34] <MichaelMertel> how do I get pdn-server 2.9.21 ... is there a maintainer for this package? how do I contact them?
[06:34] <stefg> !dvd | hilz
[06:34] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k
[06:34] <ubotu> hilz: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[06:34] <mage> I'm looking for a program to automatically sync/backup a directory to a server, sometimes local, other times through ssh, any ideas?
[06:34] <stefg> !rsync
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rsync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:34] <stefg> !info rsync
[06:34] <ubotu> rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 254 kB, installed size 504 kB
[06:34] <tristanbob_> how can I download the 7.04 userguide as a PDF?
[06:34] <SlimG> FutureMarine: Kinda much work to do, you could atleast start out by accessing the manufacturer site and see if there even is a new BIOS firmware for your computer.
[06:35] <mage> I guess rsync + fancy script would do it
[06:35] <danub> where is the login config file?
[06:35] <FutureMarine> SlimG: there is but when it ask for OS what should I do which one should I choose
[06:35] <hilz> ubotu: thanks. i will try that.
[06:36] <iiioiooo> in my fstab there are funny uids... how can i find out the UUID of my new created partition?
[06:36] <SlimG> FutureMarine: What computer is it
[06:36] <LjL> !uuid | iiioiooo
[06:36] <ubotu> iiioiooo: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[06:36] <hendrixski> After running aptitude autclean and aptitude clean my /dev/hda1 is still 96% full... what else can I do to clean it out?
[06:36] <bruenig> start uninstalling stuff
[06:36] <rainbowsdonthide> what is the bash command to send a file or folder to the trash bin?
[06:36] <FutureMarine> SlimG: it is a laptop, its a dell latitude CP
[06:37] <bruenig> rainbowsdonthide, mv file ~/.Trash (I would just rm it though if you wanted to delete it)
[06:37] <LjL> !diskfree | hendrixski
[06:37] <ubotu> hendrixski: Graphical representations of where your disk-space is being used are: baobab (GNOME), filelight / kinfocenter (Kubuntu). On the terminal: df -h -T
[06:37] <iiioiooo> LjL: thx, but the new created partition is not listed with blkid
[06:37] <danub> lets see if i can login as root now lol ;)
[06:37] <LjL> iiioiooo: "newly created" = "you haven't rebooted yet"?
[06:37] <stefg> hendrixski: add more space by using another partition as /home? take a look at /var/log  and see if there's ancient logs
[06:37] <iiioiooo> LjL: alright ;)
[06:37] <MichaelMertel> how do I get pdns-server 2.9.21 ... is there a maintainer for this package? how do I contact them? sorry for the newbie question
[06:38] <hendrixski> LjL, stefg I'll try those thanks.
[06:38] <LjL> iiioiooo: then you need to reboot for partition changes to be picked up by the server. your partitioning program should have told you that
[06:38] <SlimG> FutureMarine: Do you have the link?
[06:38] <FutureMarine> Yes
[06:38] <Jocke> There are so unbelievable many in this channel.
[06:38] <FutureMarine> SlimG: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/index.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen
[06:38] <iiioiooo> LjL: thx, maybe it did... should probably read what it says next time ;) ... alright, rebooting now, thx again
[06:38] <rainbowsdonthide> bruenig oh OK, so.... like ...sudo remove sfsaes.conf ... now this will permently delete it, instead of the recycliing bin correct?
[06:39] <bruenig> rainbowsdonthide, rm not remove
[06:39] <FutureMarine> SlimG: then just look up the model which is a dell latitude cp
[06:39] <rainbowsdonthide> rm OK... am I right about permant deletion, bypassing the trash?
[06:39] <rainbowsdonthide> bruenig
[06:39] <SlimG> FutureMarine: mkay
[06:39] <bruenig> rainbowsdonthide, yes
[06:40] <rainbowsdonthide> thanks a lot bruenig
[06:40] <bruenig> !thanks | rainbowsdonthide
[06:40] <Gothfunc> hi.  i'm looking for a pda/mobilephone that works well with ubuntu.  any suggestions?
[06:40] <ubotu> rainbowsdonthide: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:40] <easytiger> !vmware
[06:40] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[06:41] <Krazy> how do i get rid of GRUB
[06:41] <easytiger> !virtualizers
[06:41] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[06:41] <bruenig> Krazy, why
[06:41] <Gothfunc> !virtualbox
[06:41] <ubotu> VirtualBox is open-source virtualization software for x86, with a proprietary "enterprise" version sporting additional features. Packages for Ubuntu are provided by the makers at http://www.virtualbox.org/ - Setup details at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VirtualBox
[06:41] <hendrixski> LjL, Ok... those are all what df -h was showing me... which I already knew... that /dev/hda1/ is at 96%
[06:41] <stefg> (msg ubotu fixmbr
[06:42] <Krazy> it won't let me into xp, i formatted my drive with ubuntu already
[06:42] <Gothfunc> how does virtualbox compare with vmware?
[06:42] <bruenig> Krazy, oh so you no longer have ubuntu? then get to rescue prompt and do fixmbr in windows
[06:42] <LjL> hendrixski: that command is wrong really. try  du / | sort -n  instead
[06:42] <LjL> or use a GUI
[06:43] <mage> hmm I guess rsync only does one way
[06:43] <Krazy> okay, and that will get rid of GRUB
[06:43] <bruenig> Krazy, yes
[06:43] <Krazy> thanks
[06:44] <FutureMarine> SlimG: did you find it
[06:44] <SlimG> FutureMarine: http://support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/downloads/en/downloads_splash?c=us&l=en&s=gen&~mode=popup&file=40543
[06:44] <hydan> how do you remove items from the applications menu that do not exist anymore?
[06:45] <FutureMarine> SlimG: thanks
[06:45] <FutureMarine> SlimG: now install it
[06:45] <hendrixski> stefg, so those .old files in /var/log can be safely removed and it would give me more room on /dev/hda1  (and thus let me apt-get stuff normally)
[06:45] <Gonzalo> salas en espaol!
[06:45] <stefg> hendrixski: yeah, i'd say so
[06:45] <stefg> hendrixski: but that won
[06:46] <stefg> hendrixski: but that won't gain much
[06:46] <hendrixski> :(
[06:46] <LjL> !es | Gonzalo
[06:46] <ubotu> Gonzalo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:46] <stefg> hendrixski: how big is your /-partition then?
[06:46] <FutureMarine> SlimG: is it the floppy one
[06:46] <hydan> hello, how do you remove outdated files from the gnome applications menu?
[06:47] <SlimG> FutureMarine: See this page instead, it had more info: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/format.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=gen&deviceid=250&libid=1&releaseid=R36129&vercnt=12&formatcnt=0&SystemID=LAT_PNT_PNT_CP&servicetag=&os=WW1&osl=en&catid=-1&impid=-1
[06:47] <hydan> outdated links*
[06:47] <mage> anyone here do two way sync with rsync?
[06:47] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k
[06:47] <reevester> guys...is the installation of the alternate CD much smoother than the one with LIVE included?
[06:47] <hendrixski> stefg, / is 3.7 and that's not including /home which has a separate 30G
[06:48] <SlimG> FutureMarine: If you're running Windows on this computer the easiest thing would be to create the floppy
[06:48] <FutureMarine> SlimG: thats what I am doin right now
[06:48] <Atilla> #ubuntutr
[06:48] <stefg> hendrixski: oh, that's tight... anything in /usr/src (old kernel sources) ?
[06:48] <FutureMarine> SlimG: :)
[06:48] <hole_> whats a good terminal program for use with dial up bbs's
[06:48] <LjL> !info minicom | hole_
[06:48] <rainbowsdonthide> can I pull up the terminal and "sudo fsck -f" well I just keep working on other stuff, is that safe?
[06:48] <Atilla> come on #ubuntutr
[06:48] <ubotu> hole_: minicom: friendly menu driven serial communication program. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2-4build1 (feisty), package size 164 kB, installed size 1112 kB
[06:48] <hendrixski> stefg, :-) I can delete old kernel source!??!!  yay
[06:49] <nicholas> ng 2.6.20-16-generic refused to boot on my thinkpad. known issue?
[06:49] <LjL> Atilla, excuse me?
[06:49] <hendrixski> stefg, should I apt-get remove ---purge them, or just delete by hand?
[06:49] <hole_> thx a bunch lil
[06:49] <Atilla> I listen you
[06:49] <Atilla> LjL
[06:49] <LjL> Atilla, don't spam
[06:49] <Atilla> okey
[06:50] <stefg> hendrixski: apt-get only downloads the source tar.bz2 so remove the archive with apt, but the unpacked tree has to be deleted manually
[06:50] <LjL> rainbowsdonthide: no, the partition must be unmounted for fsck to fix errors.
[06:50] <LjL> unounted, or mounted read-only
[06:50] <hendrixski> stefg, aaahhh, Ok
[06:51] <nolt_> Hello
[06:51] <hole_> can at commands be used with minicom?
[06:51] <rainbowsdonthide> mmm OK LjL... what's weird, is I type "cd /" then "touch /fsck" and it used to work but it doesn't anymore.
[06:51] <FutureMarine> SlimG: its upgraded
[06:51] <LjL> hole_: sure, AT commands are handled by the modem.
[06:51] <LjL> !fsck
[06:51] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[06:51] <SlimG> FutureMarine: nice, then you avoid much extra work ;) if upgrading the BIOS won't work, there might be possible to add Linux boot paramterers to fix the problem
[06:51] <nolt_> I got problem BIG with scripting in shell Please help me: here is my problem PLEASE CHECK: http://wklej.org/id/77b8266b74
[06:52] <kitche> !away | ace_saures_away
[06:52] <ubotu> ace_saures_away: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines and !nickspam
[06:52] <LjL> !away > ace_saures_away    (ace_saures_away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:52] <SlimG> FutureMarine: Try booting the xubuntu-desktop disk again
[06:52] <LjL> rainbowsdonthide: i'm not sure that's the right filename to touch. anyway, if the system is convinced that the FS is clean, it won't really check it
[06:52] <rainbowsdonthide> ok, I'm starting to like this bot :-P
[06:52] <stefg> hendrixski: is there some space on /home? you could move /var/cache/apt/archives over and symlink it
[06:52] <ubuntu_user07> hi all where do i find the grub file to change what is displayed on the boot menu? i have 4 entries for unbuntu with two sets of numbers
[06:52] <mage> wow
[06:52] <FutureMarine> SlimG: which one the dektop one or the alternate one
[06:52] <LjL> rainbowsdonthide: reboot in recovery mode, remount root as read-only (mount / -o remount,ro) and force the fsck, if you really want it to check it
[06:52] <mage> you guys are touchy on away nicks
[06:53] <SlimG> FutureMarine: desktop
[06:53] <rainbowsdonthide> ok. that makes sense, thanks LjL
[06:53] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k
[06:53] <Ix0s> ubuntu_user07, try nano /boot/grub/grub.conf
[06:53] <nolt_> People ??
[06:53] <ubuntu_user07> so i don't edit it with gedit?
[06:53] <nolt_> anyone please ITS IMPORTANT
[06:53] <mage> its always important
[06:53] <stefg> mage: just imagine 1200 people having auto-away on... there's enough nickspam in here already
[06:53] <LjL> mage: quite so. especially with away nicks that have away messages attached. there are currently 1204 users in here, and if everyone used that, we'd be flooded completely. besides, the IRC protocol has a very handy /away feature build into it.
[06:53] <SlimG> FutureMarine: both disks probably fails on the the same error, so atleast the desktop one let's you know what's happening
[06:53] <Ix0s> ubuntu_user07, You can do, gksu gedit /boot/grub/grub.conf
[06:53] <FutureMarine> SlimG: do you want to know the specs of my laptop to make sure that its compatible because Im pretty sure it is
[06:54] <nolt_> mage: u know scripting in bash ??
[06:54] <ubuntu_user07> Ix0s: then I just remove the extra entries?
[06:54] <FutureMarine> SlimG: yea ture
[06:54] <FutureMarine> SlimG: True*
[06:54] <Ix0s> ubuntu_user07, Well if your sure you dont need them yeah
[06:54] <stefg> !attitude | nolt_
[06:54] <ubotu> nolt_: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:54] <mage> nolt_: if you have a question, probably want to ask the question to the channel in general
[06:54] <ubuntu_user07> grub.conf is a blank file. and the entries for ubuntu one has 2.something.16 the other is .15
[06:55] <mage> nolt_: I know some stuff but not everything :)
[06:55] <Slyboots> Hi :)
[06:55] <mage> stefg: sure, NOW that bot has something i'd use ;)
[06:55] <Ix0s> ubuntu_user07, Ummm weird
[06:55] <hole__> 1 more question,are there any wardialers for linux?
[06:55] <nolt_> mage: look it its simple script but it wont work http://wklej.org/id/77b8266b74
[06:55] <ubuntu_user07> so how should i remove the extra entries?
[06:55] <Slyboots> Got a odd issue that I just cant get a solution to, Using a nvidia card to output a video signal to my TV via HDMI,but the problem is that Ubuntu (Gnome/metacity) is drawing the screen *larger* than the viewing area of my TV
[06:55] <SlimG> FutureMarine: I've got the specs on the Dell site, althou your computer is compatible it doesn't mean will work flawless
[06:55] <wols_> hole__: why would anyone want to help you with that?
[06:56] <Ix0s> ubuntu_user07, Dont know the specific file for ubuntu as I dont run it sorry
[06:56] <Beyond_The_Grav1> OK, I have a question, how do I delete some files that require root access?
[06:56] <Slyboots> Its not much larger, slightly too tall, so the top and bottom "Bars" are hidden from view
[06:56] <foxiness> can i use usb wireless from linksys with ubuntu "ID 13b1:0020 Linksys"?
[06:56] <hole__> wols: why not i'm only experimenting
[06:56] <eboogie> Beyond: gksudo nautilus
[06:56] <wols_> hole__: you are simply a script kiddie in the making. and there enough of those around already. way too much
[06:56] <hole__> i have no intention of doing anything malicious
[06:57] <Beyond_The_Grav1> What does that do eboogie?
[06:57] <wols_> if you don't, then you don't need such a program, do you?
[06:57] <Slyboots> But you want a Wardialer..
[06:57] <mage> nolt_: how come the variables aren't in quotes like if [ "$v1" -gt "$v2" ]  ; then ; whatever
[06:57] <Slyboots> :P
[06:57] <hole__> i'm too much of a hippy
[06:57] <eboogie> that way you can browse and delete the file you want b/c you'll have root access
[06:57] <Beyond_The_Grav1> OK, thanks! ^_^
[06:57] <eboogie> that opens nautilus as root
[06:57] <SlimG> FutureMarine: Does it work?
[06:57] <hole__> i just wanna see what there is
[06:57] <CarlFK> what is the apt-get command to show what version is installed?
[06:57] <reevester> does Linux support syncing with PPC devices ?
[06:57] <Beyond_The_Grav1> Why gk in front of sudo?
[06:57] <ubuntu_user07> i can't seem to find the file to remove the entries
[06:58] <FutureMarine> SlimG: Its loading
[06:58] <hydan> hey guys could someone please tell me how to remove old applications that don't link to anything from the applications menu?
[06:58] <LjL> Beyond_The_Grav1: it's not "in front", it's another command. GUI applications should always be started as root with gksudo, never with sudo
[06:58] <Atilla> #macosx
[06:58] <aadil> CarlFK, dkpk -L
[06:58] <eboogie> it's a frontend for for su and sudo. see "man gksudo"
[06:58] <Beyond_The_Grav1> OK, cool thanks! ^_^
[06:58] <nolt_> mage: after then must be ; sing ?
[06:58] <stefg> nolt_: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html#toc10
[06:58] <eboogie> yup...
[06:58] <aadil> CarlFK, sorry its dpkg -l  | grep name
[06:58] <mage> nolt_: that script works for me, no changes
[06:59] <LjL> CarlFK: i'd advice "apt-cache policy <packagename>"
[06:59] <nolt_> hmm
[06:59] <stefg> nolt_: http://wooledge.org/mywiki/BashFAQ?action=show&redirect=BashFaq
[06:59] <nolt_> mage: u installed additional librares for scripting or somthing ?
[06:59] <FutureMarine> SlimG: well the error didnt pop up again its just sitting there with a blinking thing
[07:00] <reevester> what app do i use for BitTorrent????
[07:00] <Moduliz0r> What can I use to view my TV card in Ubuntu?
[07:00] <CarlFK> aadil, LjL - thanks.  both agree. too
[07:00] <FutureMarine> SlimG: I want to install it so bad should I try the alternate cd?
[07:00] <Ix0s> azereus reevester
[07:00] <LjL> Moduliz0r: analog or digital?
[07:00] <mage> liczba 2 jest < od 3
[07:00] <Moduliz0r> LkL: Analog
[07:00] <Moduliz0r> LjL*
[07:00] <CarlFK> Moduliz0r: lspci :)  (which would actually help)
[07:00] <LjL> !info zapping > Moduliz0r
[07:00] <LjL> !info tvtime > Moduliz0r
[07:00] <mage> nolt_: what are you feeding the script? you've wrote it to take numbers and tell you which is bigger
[07:00] <Moduliz0r> k
[07:01] <nolt_> mage: that's right
[07:01] <SlimG> FutureMarine: give the desktop atleast 6minutes before trying the alternate one, I remember it took a while when I got it working
[07:01] <webito> what is better ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:01] <nolt_> its just a simple example but i get always errors in scripts
[07:01] <stefg> Moduliz0r: vlc is pretty for casual viewing, Mythtv gives you a more dedicated entertainmnet box
[07:01] <mage> I ran it on my ubuntu box thats installed using the installer ;)
[07:01] <nolt_> even when they are good
[07:01] <FutureMarine> SlimG: the erros came up again it has a buffer error with the hdc
[07:01] <mage> hmm bash --version says?
[07:01] <nolt_> GNU bash, version 3.2.13(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu)
[07:01] <nolt_> Copyright (C) 2005 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[07:02] <stefg> nolt_: read the HOWTO and learn proper syntax
[07:02] <mage> stefg: I copied his script and it worked, no changes
[07:02] <Moduliz0r> hey! zapping closes when I select anything on Options
[07:02] <SlimG> FutureMarine: Try giving it some minutes anyway
[07:02] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k
[07:02] <FutureMarine> SlimG: how long
[07:03] <nolt_> stefg: this #!/bin/bash
[07:03] <nolt_> a=1
[07:03] <nolt_> for((a=1;a<10;a++))
[07:03] <nolt_> do
[07:03] <nolt_> echo "LINUX"
[07:03] <nolt_> done
[07:03] <nolt_> gave me this: skrypt.sh: 3: Syntax error: Bad for loop variable
[07:03] <SlimG> FutureMarine: 2-3 minutes
[07:03] <Moduliz0r> and TVTime goes away straight away!
[07:03] <nolt_> its somthing with my linux i think
[07:03] <mage> woah dude use pastebin here
[07:03] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k
[07:03] <nolt_> not with the scripts
[07:03] <nolt_> sorry :)
[07:03] <nolt_> my bad
[07:03] <reevester> will Linux run smooth on a P3 550 MHz machine?
[07:03] <Ix0s> !paste | nolt_
[07:03] <ubotu> nolt_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:03] <stefg> mage, nolt_ : try replacing with #!/bin/sh (edgy uses dash)
[07:03] <Moduliz0r> LjL: Neither of those run properly
[07:04] <nolt_> i have exams on this weekend and i need working bash :(:(
[07:04] <nicholas> nolt_: ls -la /bin/bash
[07:04] <FutureMarine> SlimG: its not doing anything
[07:04] <nolt_> stefg: same errors in with /bin/sh
[07:04] <LjL> !info kdetv | Moduliz0r
[07:04] <ubotu> moduliz0r: kdetv: TV viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.9-1 (feisty), package size 1356 kB, installed size 5336 kB
[07:04] <mage> nolt_: could be bad hardware or language problems :-/
[07:05] <nicholas> seen some symlinks to dash there
[07:05] <mage> ohhhh
[07:05] <Moduliz0r> LjL: Thanks
[07:05] <stefg> nolt_: so i'd get into the habbit of using $CAPS for variables first :-)
[07:05] <nolt_> nicholas: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 700560 2007-04-11 01:32 /bin/bash
[07:05] <mage> like somehow /bin/bash runs dash
[07:05] <steveire> Hi. Any experts on /etc/network/interfaces about?
[07:05] <nicholas> meh
[07:05] <Moduliz0r> there used to be this really basic viewer I had but I cant remember it
[07:05] <zebrabast> E: Couldn't find package php-imap when doing apt-get install php-imap - how can I install http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/php5-imap on 6.10 ?
[07:05] <nolt_> damnit :((
[07:06] <FutureMarine> SlimG: its not doing anything
[07:06] <ryanbot> when i try to apt-get remove netkit-inetd i get this message :
[07:06] <ryanbot> Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y
[07:06] <ryanbot> (Reading database ... 109929 files and directories currently installed.)
[07:06] <ryanbot> Removing netkit-inetd ...
[07:06] <ryanbot> /var/lib/dpkg/info/netkit-inetd.prerm: 5: /etc/init.d/inetd: not found
[07:06] <ryanbot> dpkg: error processing netkit-inetd (--remove):
[07:06] <nolt_> mage: this hard or lang prob are fixable ?
[07:06] <ryanbot>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 127
[07:06] <ryanbot> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:06] <ryanbot>  netkit-inetd
[07:06] <SlimG> FutureMarine: then try alternate
[07:06] <LjL> !info xawtv > Moduliz0r
[07:06] <LjL> !info motv > Moduliz0r
[07:07] <FutureMarine> SlimG: do the text mode install?
[07:07] <nicholas> nolt_: #!/bin/bash\n echo "bla" <- works?
[07:07] <Moduliz0r> XawTV might have been it...
[07:07] <LjL> Moduliz0r: there's also wmtv, a wmaker applet showing a tiny tv display
[07:07] <Moduliz0r> wmaker?
[07:07] <nolt_> nicholas: sec
[07:07] <SlimG> FutureMarine: yes
[07:07] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k
[07:07] <LjL> Moduliz0r: window maker - it's a desktop enviornment (similar to GNOME or KDE). there are means to run wmaker applets in gnome/kde
[07:08] <Moduliz0r> LjL: Ok cool
[07:08] <mage> nolt_: well uh I'm just guessing, its either something dumb resulting from you choosing not english installing ubuntu, or hardware, or you're humorously running like Etch+1 (whatever the unstable is)
[07:08] <FutureMarine> SlimG: what happens if this doesnt work?
[07:08] <nolt_> nicholas: script didnt view msg bla
[07:08] <mage> also what are you using for text editor
[07:09] <nolt_> mage: my instalation is polish language
[07:09] <nolt_> gedit
[07:09] <wols_> mage: etch+1=lenny. sid is always unstable </offtopic>
[07:09] <ahmed_> guys how to remove kde without removing its applications ??
[07:09] <mage> I am in awe at how that could be offtopic
[07:09] <SlimG> FutureMarine: then you need to search the ubuntuforums for the errorstring you get during desktop install and see if anyone got a sollution to the problem
[07:09] <mage> im sure im in ubuntu room and not like gentoo this time ;)
[07:09] <BlackDesign> Where can I change the menu text color in Edgy?
[07:10] <reevester> will Linux run smooth on a P3 550 MHz machine?
[07:10] <FutureMarine> SlimG: what would the error problem be called?
[07:10] <PriceChild> ahmed_, So you want to remove kubuntu without removing kubuntu?
[07:10] <wols_> reevester: yes. but: you might not have enough ram for all bells and whistles likde gnome/kde
[07:10] <reevester> what is gnome/kde ?
[07:10] <eboogie> BlackDesign: System, Preferences, Themes, Details tab
[07:10] <mage> ram shmam, I had 1.5gigs in my P3 533
[07:10] <SlimG> FutureMarine: probably the same as the error message you receive when booting desktop install
[07:10] <wols_> ahmed_: what do you mean "kde"
[07:10] <psykidellic> reevester, you might want to check out XFCE or Icewindow
[07:10] <wols_> !gnome
[07:10] <nolt_> mage: so you see its kinda problem for me with this cuz I dont know for sure if wroted by me script have bugs or I wroted bugged script :/
[07:10] <BlackDesign> eboogie, yes, that's for Feisty
[07:10] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[07:10] <BlackDesign> in Edgy you don't have the Color tab
[07:11] <FutureMarine> SlimG: this is a pain
[07:11] <psykidellic> !kde
[07:11] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[07:11] <eboogie> Ah yes...you are correct.  I'm not sure if that feature was implemented in Edgy.
[07:11] <wols_> reevester: kde is something similar. you should have at least 256MB, better 512MB for them
[07:11] <BlackDesign> So a different solution?
[07:11] <BlackDesign> :D
[07:11] <reevester> gnome or KDE is by default installed in kubuntu?
[07:11] <psykidellic> reevester, if memory is low...try xubuntu
[07:11] <reevester> well XP used to run fine on this PC
[07:11] <wols_> reevester: ubuntu uses gnome, kubuntu uses kde
[07:11] <reevester> k
[07:11] <psykidellic> reevester, Gbome in ubuntu, kde in kubunu, xfce in xubuntu
[07:11] <mage> nolt_: well I'm thinking its your computers fault ;)
[07:12] <Moduliz0r> wtf XawTV just blacked out my screen
[07:12] <wols_> and yes, it's by default. xubuntu uses xfce which is a little ligther
[07:12] <unimatrix9> did you people see the Dell Ubuntu video , and like it?
[07:12] <reevester> what if i just need a PC that is on the whole day just for downloading and IRC and shit?
[07:12] <eboogie> yeah, man
[07:12] <nolt_> mage: can you check did you have lib bash-builtins installed ?
[07:12] <steveire> Hey. How do I set up an ad-hoc network from my laptop?
[07:12] <unimatrix9> reevester , thats a good job for ubuntu!
[07:12] <nolt_> mage: oh ^^
[07:12] <wols_> reevester: intall ubuntu server without X. if you can handle a console irc client
[07:12] <fulhack> hey guys.. I'm looking for a CLI torrent client that can run unattended, run a script once a torrent has finished downloading, and download several torrents, possibly by pulling them out of a directory like btlaunchmany does. Any ideas?
[07:12] <psykidellic> reevester, i think gnome or xfce should be fine
[07:12] <reevester> good :D
[07:12] <psykidellic> KDE might be little resource hungry
[07:12] <SlimG> FutureMarine: I understand, but there's not any alternative ways of getting it to work :P
[07:12] <mage> erm, bash-builtins means built in to bash, like the echo
[07:12] <nolt_> mage: could you buy a new one for me ? :P
[07:12] <reevester> !kfce
[07:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kfce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:13] <mage> sure you've got /bin/echo
[07:13] <aoirthoir> reevester, puppy linux is really good with memory. You might give that a try also. I use both ubuntu and puppy.
[07:13] <wols_> reevester: xfce
[07:13] <reevester> !xfce
[07:13] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[07:13] <unimatrix9> reevester, but you might need some burning program or external hard disk too
[07:13] <reevester> sorry my bad
[07:13] <FutureMarine> SlimG: then way does ubuntu 5.04 work?
[07:13] <wols_> reevester: so how much memory do you have?
[07:13] <hendrixski> stefg, can you repeat that about the symlinks???
[07:13] <reevester> 128 MB :P
[07:13] <SlimG> FutureMarine: Is this your error message? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=438923
[07:13] <bruenig> echo is not a bash built in
[07:13] <wols_> reevester: tight. either use xubuntu or no X
[07:13] <bruenig> if and for are bash built ins
[07:13] <mage> oh
[07:13] <unimatrix9> reevester : damn small ...
[07:13] <wols_> reevester: irssi is a very good irc client for console
[07:13] <unimatrix9> ?
[07:13] <reevester> i dont give two hoots about how it looks...it should just be functional as a machine for downloading stuff and experimentation
[07:13] <unimatrix9> :P
[07:14] <FutureMarine> SlimG: K
[07:14] <mage> bruenig: whoopsies
[07:14] <reevester> so ubuntu feisty fawn not a good idea ?
[07:14] <hendrixski> stefg I had to answer a business phone call and I saw it, but it's past my memory buffer on IRC
[07:14] <psykidellic> reevester, i will suggest xubuntu..console could be a bitch if this is your first time with Linux
[07:14] <unimatrix9> reevester : how much does ram cost these day's . cant find any?
[07:14] <bruenig> echo is its own program, same as mkdir and ls and all the others, they are command line only though which make it seem like it is bash I suppose
[07:14] <HKJGN__> how can i check what version of Java im running?
[07:14] <reevester> yea its my first time ^_^
[07:14] <SlimG> FutureMarine: 5.10 probably works because it lacks a function that was later implemented and triggered a already existing BIOS bug
[07:14] <wols_> reevester:depends how much you like swapping. you can always not use gnome but use e.g. fluxbox. very light that
[07:14] <nolt_> mage: thanks for your time and trying to help me im greatfull, too bad we fixed it =]  thanks again
[07:14] <Celt> I need a hand with logging into the Ubuntu forums.
[07:14] <reevester> ohhh so in linux i can change the frontend ?
[07:15] <wols_> HKJGN__: dpkg -l |grep -i java
[07:15] <FutureMarine> SlimG: not good
[07:15] <mage> bruenig: well it was a wrong guess
[07:15] <stefg> hendrixski: if you have space on /home you can move /var/cache/apt/archives over and put a symlink to the new location. apt downloads to the bigger partition then
[07:15] <unimatrix9> reevester ; i have old celerons pentium , with 265 ram they run ubuntu just fine
[07:15] <wols_> reevester: yes. linux is a lot more flexible than windows. a LOT
[07:15] <psykidellic> reevester, yes.....i will not exactly say them frontend...they are dekstop managers
[07:15] <wols_> reevester: you don't need a GUI if you don't want to for example
[07:15] <reevester> unimatrix9 >>> no i have SDRAM and this is an i810 mobo...cannot find bloody ram LS
[07:15] <mage> with great flexibility comes great complexity ;)
[07:15] <reevester> hmm ok
[07:15] <unimatrix9> i have sdram here too,
[07:15] <reevester> so i just have to increase RAM to solve the issue?
[07:15] <mage> reevester: PC133? or RAMBUS?
[07:16] <wols_> reevester: yes
[07:16] <jughead> What is the best video editing software for Kubuntu 7.04 (available in the repositories preferably)?  I need to string together some .avi's from my digital camera, and maybe add some photos and captions like a slide show.
[07:16] <ahmed_> guys how to remove kde,, everything related to kde including kdesktop and the login kde session and all this stuff EXCEPT THE KDE APPLICATIONS ...plz help
[07:16] <fulhack> Looking for a feature rich console based torrent client, any ideas?
[07:16] <unimatrix9> just increase if you can..solves more then just one thing
[07:16] <reevester> PC133 if im not wrong cos i dunno what RAMBUS is! :P
[07:16] <hendrixski> stefg, sweet,  so I can just create any random directory in home, then trick the system to think that /var/cache/apt/archives is that other folder
[07:16] <HKJGN__> wonderful, i have too many versions of Java, but Limewire/frostwire still cant find its needed dependencies
[07:16] <mage> ahmed_: hurting for disk space?
[07:16] <kitche> ahmed_: well the kde applications depend on kdelibs and kdebase
[07:16] <unimatrix9> reevester , just look inside , or just tell us what pc brand it is...:)
[07:16] <stefg> hendrixski: that's the purpose of symlinks... welcome to the wonderful world of unixoid os's
[07:17] <nicholas> any known regressions with kernel 2.6.20-16-generic?
[07:17] <reevester> its an assembled PC...motherboard is an intel 810i
[07:17] <ahmed_> wat should i do then
[07:17] <wols_> ahmed_: you don't have to start the kde stuff you doN#t want. all it does is take up a little room on disk. not worth the bother
[07:17] <unimatrix9> reevester : does it have an operating system on it now?
[07:17] <Celt> I could use some help logging into the Ubuntu forums.
[07:17] <wols_> reevester: i810 uses SDRAM PC133 yes
[07:17] <reevester> yea im running windows XP Pro at the moment......
[07:17] <kitche> wols_: well it also uses DDR
[07:18] <wols_>  reevester start with ubuntu
[07:18] <reevester> with all the graphical shit turned off
[07:18] <wols_> kitche: not i810, no
[07:18] <force4> hey, im getting this error while installation in tty1: Buffer I/O error on device sda, and then the livecd freezes
[07:18] <hendrixski> stefg, it's taking a while to start thinking like a *nix user after so many years of windows
[07:18] <reevester> and its running fine.....but u cannot expect it to do hardcore stuff
[07:18] <force4> same on alternate install
[07:18] <wols_> reevester: erm, start with Xubuntu
[07:18] <reevester> hmmm k
[07:18] <wols_> it should let you get a feel for what to do
[07:18] <reevester> Xubuntu is easy to use?
[07:18] <stefg> hendrixski: although i'd shift that to /home/archives (not within your /home/username folder) to avoid peremission trouble
[07:18] <kitche> wols_: so your point is wrong since I just told you what my board is and the memory I have plus the processor
[07:18] <SlimG> FutureMarine: you could try booting with the "irqpoll" Linux parameter
[07:18] <psykidellic> hi..kind of newbie question....I installed postfix using apt-get postfix....it installed startup and ending scripts in rc1.d, rc3.d, rc3.d, rc4 rc5...i was reading docs about rc.d and init.d...shouldnt only rc3.d and rc56.d suffice? whats the difference between S20postfix in rc3.d and K20postfix in rc6.d????
[07:18] <reevester> i mean it should atleast have a GUI cos i dont know linux commands....yet
[07:19] <hendrixski> right, good call stefg
[07:19] <FutureMarine> SlimG: how do I do that?
[07:19] <HKJGN__> sigh.. i dont know how to get Java to work, freaking Frostwire and Limewire both say im using an old form of Java, and i have the newest one installed
[07:19] <mage> psykidellic: the rc?.d dirs are used by the init system, and they're all links to /etc/init.d/scriptname
[07:19] <stefg> hendrixski: and then 'sudo ln -s /home/archives /var/apt/cache/archives'
[07:19] <unimatrix9> reevester : reevester : use this program to see what ram you have
[07:20] <mage> psykidellic: ls -l /etc/rc1.d/ will show you
[07:20] <unimatrix9> http://www.zdnet.nl/downloads.cfm?id=66091
[07:20] <FutureMarine> SlimG: how do I do that?
[07:20] <SlimG> FutureMarine: when you're in the bootmenu, press F6 and write irqpoll at the end of that line, press Enter and it should start booting.
[07:20] <reevester> well but shouldnt the installation of feisty fawn start at the least???? i mean it takes atleast 20 mins for it to reach the login page...and then also its laggy....and i get stuck as it doesnt recognise my serial mouse :|
[07:20] <dxdt> HKJGN__: what happens if you run java --version on the command line?  What version is displayed?
[07:20] <FutureMarine> k
[07:21] <mage> wow
[07:21] <wols_> kitche: you do NOT have a i810 chipset and a P4 celery. i810 is purely P3 and it is SDRAM only. http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/mature/index.htm?iid=ipp_810chpst+hghlt_chart&
[07:21] <FutureMarine> SlimG: which cd?
[07:21] <hendrixski> stefg, oh... it's ln -s ... ah, I've used that once before, I think.  right right .... just never would have come to me to use it for something
[07:21] <mage> you're really using a serial mouse?
[07:21] <SlimG> FutureMarine: desktop
[07:21] <kitche> wols_: odd how my video is i810 onboard
[07:21] <wols_> kitche: what you might have is a i845
[07:21] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k
[07:21] <unimatrix9> reevester : if you like to stick with low ram, use damn small linux or any other light linux
[07:21] <reevester> well it has that socket which is similar to the VGA cable socket........
[07:21] <qaws> hi, how can i mount an iso or mdf with fuseiso? it mounts only file, which is unreadable
[07:21] <Azul> what's wrong with serial mice?
[07:21] <kitche> wols_: nope i810 according to hp's website
[07:21] <stefg> hendrixski: i see you're climbing the learning curve up a bit :-)
[07:21] <s0nix> anyone have installed unreal tournament 99 under ubuntu edgy, im not able to solve my problem :(
[07:21] <wols_> kitche: the i810 driver can be used for many different IGPs
[07:22] <psykidellic> mage, i know that....but why put the same link in multiple directories? shouldnt one link each in rc3.d and rc5.d suffice? rc3.d for start and rc5.d to stop?
[07:22] <psykidellic> the thing is i am trying to write one script myself for an app
[07:22] <wols_> kitche: don't confuse the chipset you use and the video driver you use. and if you have a P4 you cannot run i810 chipset, preiod
[07:22] <psykidellic> so was trying to understand from available scripts
[07:22] <hendrixski> stefg, well I'm using ONLY ubuntu, and I'm getting into programming and packaging... so yeah, big part of the curve
[07:22] <psykidellic> mage, its the same iwtj mysql too...one link is there in all directories
[07:22] <wols_> kitche: look up the url I pasted from intel.
[07:22] <Nolt_>  /msg nickserv link Nolt zab0jca
[07:22] <kitche> wols_: whatever I know what the hp website says
[07:22] <Nolt_> lol
[07:23] <wols_> kitche: your i845 graphics core used the i810 driver as well. that's all
[07:23] <reevester> what type of mouse is it if the socket of my mouse is similar to the socket that you have on the old VGA cables of monitors?
[07:23] <HKJGN__> dxdt: 1.4.2.. but i installed 5.0 through the Add/remove tool
[07:23] <wols_> reevester: serial
[07:23] <LjL> Nolt_: you're advised to change your password now.
[07:23] <qaws> hi, how can i mount an iso or mdf with fuseiso? it mounts only file, which is unreadable
[07:23] <wols_> reevester: 9pin
[07:23] <reevester> ok...so yes i still use a serial mouse! :P
[07:23] <FutureMarine> SlimG: what does that boot peremiter do?
[07:23] <psykidellic> reevester, ps2???
[07:23] <reevester> its an old pC....i just want to put it to some use
[07:23] <Nolt_> LjL i know :) ^^ till i cant join on my primary nick ....
[07:23] <FutureMarine> SlimG: what does that boot peremiter do?
[07:23] <psykidellic> reevester, but i might be wrong...
[07:23] <reevester> no PS2 is different....
[07:23] <reevester> PS2 is round and slender
[07:24] <reevester> heck even i know that :P
[07:24] <LjL> Nolt_: /msg nickserv ghost nickname password    to kill a nickname
[07:24] <n2diy> reevester: 9 pin serial mouse.
[07:24] <Floker> Hey Guys, can anyone tell me if SSH is secure? i want to est. a ssh connection from my company to the server at home, just want to know wheter its secure or not
[07:24] <psykidellic> reevester, aah yes...sorry...my bad!
[07:24] <sivaji> how to mount a ntfs or fat partition at boot time
[07:24] <SlimG> FutureMarine: I don't really know, I just know it might help in cases like this.
[07:24] <wols_> Floker: it is
[07:24] <reevester> so ubunto dont support serial?
[07:24] <psykidellic> reevester, should have thought before answering :)
[07:24] <Floker> thanks a lot
[07:24] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k
[07:24] <wols_> sivaji: by editing your /etc/fstab
[07:24] <psykidellic> reevester, ubuntu will support all..ps2 usb serial
[07:24] <reevester> hehehe @ psykidellic
[07:24] <psykidellic> you will need to configure it correctly
[07:25] <sivaji> can u tell me what changes i have to do
[07:25] <reevester> hmm k
[07:25] <dxdt> HKJGN__: that's odd.  Really odd.  go ahead and run sudo update-java-alternatives --config java and see if you are selected as using the correct choice.  (Usually this doesn't have to be done anymore.)
[07:25] <Beyond_The_Grav1> Does anyone know how to make a certain application the default for any kind of file?
[07:25] <psykidellic> reevester, if i am not worng the file you want to see is the x window conf file
[07:25] <LjL> !ntfs
[07:25] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[07:25] <LjL> !default > Beyond_The_Grav1    (Beyond_The_Grav1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:25] <gangsterlicious> wheres /etc/inittab?
[07:25] <stefg> !ssh | Floker
[07:25] <ubotu> Floker: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:26] <Dustcrazy> Is it possible to install Ubuntu via the live CD without first having to load up the desktop and everything?
[07:26] <reevester> in that app that i got...Memory Type is SDRAM
[07:26] <Nolt_> ... who tooked my nickname and register it o.O
[07:26] <LjL> gangsterlicious: nowhere, feisty uses upstart, not sysvinit, and there is no inittab
[07:26] <psykidellic> Dustcrazy, yes
[07:26] <LjL> !upstart > gangsterlicious    (gangsterlicious, see the private message from Ubotu)
[07:26] <Moduliz0r> are you sure theres no really basic, not very popular program to view my Pinnacle PCTV card's composite output?
[07:26] <stefg> !alternate | Dustcrazy
[07:26] <ubotu> Dustcrazy: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[07:26] <psykidellic> the iso you download form their site actually boots up as live cd first
[07:26] <HKJGN__> dxdt: it didnt accept that arguement --config java
[07:26] <kitsune> Is anybody else having issues with embeded video in Firefox using the Totem plugin? I'm using Feisty
[07:26] <wols_> reevester: first, try out xubuntu. you might be happy with it and then the additional ram wouldn't be needed
[07:27] <reevester> hmm kk
[07:27] <Moduliz0r> kitsune: I can't watch any DivX Stage6 movies from tv-links.co.uk
[07:27] <Floker> thank you stefg
[07:27] <wols_> SDRAM es expensive nowadays :(
[07:27] <kitche> wols_: thanks for giving me a link that actually killed links have to fix it now lol
[07:27] <Rasitiln> Good lord compiz has came a long way since I installed it when it had just came out on gentoo
[07:27] <Rasitiln> its freaking easy now..
[07:27] <Moduliz0r> kitsune: is that the sort of peoblem you're getting?
[07:27] <reevester> well im already downloading the alternative CD of 7.04...illl give it a whirl and see if it works fine else will check out xubuntu
[07:27] <Moduliz0r> problem*
[07:27] <kitsune> moduliz0r: me too. that was one of the websites i was having trouble with. the other was www.mycrazyvideos.com
[07:27] <reevester> yea SD RAM is hard to find and expensive :(
[07:27] <Rasitiln> is compiz still in alpha?
[07:28] <Moduliz0r> kitsune: yeah, I wonder if DivX will ever make a Linux codec
[07:28] <Dustcrazy> Can I do it with the Ubuntu Version 6.06 LTS Live CD?
[07:28] <kitche> wols_: just had ot exit and logout :)
[07:28] <hendrixski> stefg, so I did the simlink but df -h still shows /dev/hda1 as being at 96% :-(
[07:28] <oldude67_> is kde4 supported under ubuntu yet?
[07:28] <reevester> hey yea....btw, what app do i use to play divx xvid movies on ubuntu?
[07:28] <Tomcat_> reevester: totem, or vlc.
[07:28] <kitsune> moduliz0r: I had everything working great in edgy, but i upgraded to feisty and now...nothin. I found a similiar post here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2730111
[07:28] <kitche> oldude67_: umm kde4 isn't even stable yet
[07:29] <Nolt_> LjL: how can I check on wich channel is person who tooked my nickname ?
[07:29] <reevester> ohh didnt know there was a linux ver of VLC ^_^
[07:29] <ricardo__> hola
[07:29] <reevester> thnx m8
[07:29] <n00buntu> hello... Im having this problem while booting... I kinda fixed the menu.lst in grub...and ubuntu was booting.... then...I added another line to include Windows in the menu....after that....windows would boot but not ubunut....when i try to boot... it starts to display a lot of text ... like if it was not on quiet mode....and at some point it just stops doing things...and hangs there.... any ideas??
[07:29] <kitche> reevester: vlc is a linux program just ported to windows :)
[07:29] <ubuntu-rocks> not a major problem but occacsionally when i reboot my fiesty box, everything appears in uppercase! any thoughts?
[07:29] <Moduliz0r> kitsune: A post I read said to install the Ubuntu Restricted Extras, but it hasn't made a difference
[07:29] <oldude67_> kitche: thats what i was thinking. was just checking tho...
[07:30] <reevester> lol kk
[07:30] <HKJGN__> dxdt: i tried running auto, but it still says im using 1.4.2
[07:30] <reevester> and any recommendations for a bittorrent app for linux? similar to utorrent?
[07:30] <kitsune> moduliz0r: hmmm...I can stream things ok, but when it somes to the embeded it just doesnt play. looks like it's loading, but nothing
[07:31] <Moduliz0r> same
[07:31] <Moduliz0r> I can view the flash based players
[07:31] <wols_> kitche: vlc has been developed from ground up on windows, *nix and OSX
[07:31] <kitsune> moduliz0r: is there a server devoted to firefox or totem on IRC?
[07:31] <HKJGN__> -_-
[07:31] <stefg> hendrixski: sure, because that was an empty folder. but you have gained space for apt to use. you might still need to foster trough your filesystem to see where the space is used. sudo 'tune2fs -m 2 /dev/<your root-part> might give another 50 MB.
[07:31] <Slyboots> anyone know why my display is been drawn Larger than the actual display on screen?
[07:31] <Moduliz0r> not that I know of
[07:31] <FutureMarine> SlimG: HEY ITS WORKING WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
[07:31] <reevester> and any recommendations for a bittorrent app for linux? similar to utorrent?
[07:31] <LjL> !caps | FutureMarine
[07:31] <ubotu> FutureMarine: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:31] <Slyboots> On my HDTV the view is too tall, so the top and bottom of the screen are drawn off the visual range of teh screen
[07:31] <FutureMarine> ubotu: sorry
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:32] <Moduliz0r> reevester: isnt there a Gtorrent or something?
[07:32] <jcapote> anyone tried those ubuntu dells?
[07:32] <kitche> wols_: good for you I just said it's been ported over to windows which can mean it was reprogrammed from the ground up but anyways your ignored now
[07:32] <Moduliz0r> Ive seen a torrent program that resembles uTorrent
[07:32] <FutureMarine> SlimG: its working
[07:32] <reevester> i dunno m8...im a linux n00b :(
[07:32] <Nolt_> a
[07:32] <SlimG> FutureMarine: Nice to hear your work has paid of, btw: ubotu is a irc-bot
[07:32] <reevester> but id love an app similar to utorrent...its the best app for windows!
[07:32] <wols_> rtorrent, ktorrent...
[07:32] <jcapote> deluge
[07:32] <kitche> reevester: use utorrent with wine
[07:32] <hendrixski> stefg, ah... Ok so it won't go above that cool.
[07:33] <reevester> will it be stable with wine?
[07:33] <Nolt_> hura :P
[07:33] <jcapote> only one way to find out
[07:33] <wols_> reevester: it will eat memory with wine that's for sure...
[07:33] <reevester> hmmm then i dont want that issue!
[07:33] <FutureMarine> SlimG: not good errors galore
[07:33] <reevester> i want an app with a small footprint! thats all :)
[07:33] <FutureMarine> SlimG: nm
[07:33] <wols_> HKJGN__: can you paste the dpkg -l |grep -i java?
[07:33] <Moduliz0r> guys what can I use to view the composite output of my Pinnacle PCTV card, that actually works?
[07:34] <FutureMarine> SlimG: ok thats weird
[07:34] <reevester> im all excited about linux now!!! ^_^
[07:34] <kitche> reevester: umm there isn't one unless you use a cli based application like rtorrent
[07:34] <FutureMarine> SlimG: it skiped the errors
[07:34] <jcapote> so anyone got a chance to play around with those ubuntu dells?
[07:34] <Moduliz0r> kitche: there is something similar
[07:34] <SlimG> reevester: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iAppId=2760
[07:34] <Moduliz0r> Ktorrent!
[07:34] <hendrixski> stefg, wow, that tune2fs command if pretty powerful!  so it limits the amount of reserved blocks in that partition, also helpful
[07:34] <Moduliz0r> KTorrent is a BitTorrent program for KDE. Its features include speed capping (both down and up), integrated searching, UDP tracker support, preview of certain file types (video and audio) and integration into the KDE Panel enabling background downloading.
[07:34] <wols_> Moduliz0r: I already menitoned that above
[07:34] <kitche> Moduliz0r: that has a pretty big footprint
[07:34] <Moduliz0r> wols_: Sorry >.<
[07:35] <wols_> np
[07:35] <Moduliz0r> Anybody who can help with my tv card?
[07:35] <HKJGN__> no, its way too long
[07:35] <kitche> Moduliz0r: at least on a gnome system
[07:35] <wols_> HKJGN__: pastebin
[07:35] <sivaji>  kopete has crashed i cant run it is there any way to run
[07:35] <SlimG> FutureMarine: I believe it did the same thing in my case, althou no funtions has been compromized (what does "nm" mean?)
[07:35] <Moduliz0r> You could run uTorrent under WINE right?
[07:35] <HKJGN__> wols: greek
[07:35] <FutureMarine> SlimG: nevermind
[07:36] <wols_> !paste | HKJGN__
[07:36] <ubotu> HKJGN__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:36] <FutureMarine> SlimG: so with this primeter it cuts out certian functions
[07:36] <wols_> Moduliz0r: yes. but you'd have the additional memory footprint of wine
[07:36] <Dustcrazy> CAn someone help me??? I need to install Ubuntu but it freezes wheh loading sometimes. And I haven't been able to load it via the Live CD. But I have used ubuntu before. What I want to know is it possible to just install Ubuntu via the boot paramounts on the main Live CD meun?
[07:36] <Moduliz0r> Hehe
[07:36] <Moduliz0r> wols_: But with modern systems with lots of memory, thats not too much of a problem
[07:37] <wols_> Moduliz0r: he runs a P3 550 with 128MB
[07:37] <Moduliz0r> wols_: Oh.
[07:37] <Thehound666> just need a little help. I have fglrx working proper and do not want the kernel upgrade adept is trying to force on me. I tried sudo aptitude hold but it seems to do nothing
[07:37] <HKJGN__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23123/
[07:37] <Thehound666> what am I missing?
[07:37] <FutureMarine> SlimG: nevermind it didnt work
[07:37] <Dustcrazy> Does anyone know where I can get a list of boot paramounts that I can play with?
[07:38] <SlimG> FutureMarine: I believe the parameter triggers the same function the BIOS is running but itself fails
[07:38] <SlimG> FutureMarine: What's wrong?
[07:38] <wols_> HKJGN__: uninstall gcj packages
[07:38] <juancarlos> hola
[07:38] <FutureMarine> SlimG: it stopped at starting system log daemon
[07:38] <riaal> Whats the best/easyest way to backup some files under ubuntu?
[07:38] <wols_> HKJGN__: and either java5 or java6. you don't need both
[07:38] <HKJGN__> wols_: k
[07:38] <riaal> Whats the best/easyest way to backup some files under ubuntu? I have a spare HDD for backup
[07:38] <reevester> does ubuntu support USB HDD Drives?
[07:39] <wols_> reevester: yes
[07:39] <juancarlos> tengo problemas con ubuntu
[07:39] <reevester> good! :)
[07:39] <wols_> juancarlos: english please
[07:39] <FutureMarine> SlimG: this my sound wierd because were in a ubuntu chat room but what distro for my laptop do you suggest and its easy to use because I am a noob with linux
[07:39] <Thehound666> not sure but my DVD usb drive is auto-detected
[07:39] <predaeus> !es | juancarlos
[07:39] <ubotu> juancarlos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[07:39] <stephan21> can someone tell me how i can tell witch sound card ubuntu using .....i got 2 in this box
[07:39] <juancarlos> con los efectos de escritorio
[07:40] <Thehound666> wouldn't kinfocenter tell you?
[07:40] <reevester> stephan21 >>>play something....and then plug the speaker wire into the first then the second soundcard to find out! :P
[07:40] <Dustcrazy> stephan21>	The one that sound is coming out of
[07:40] <FutureMarine> SlimG: thats wierd now its working again?
[07:40] <stephan21> i did that but no sound at all
[07:40] <SlimG> FutureMarine: I guess this error is trigged on all Linux based distro's that use a certain Kernel version, I think you might escape this error if you install Xubuntu 6.10 instead of 7.04
[07:40] <stephan21> and sometime if i swiitch it it works
[07:41] <Thehound666> I see my card under sound
[07:41] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k
[07:41] <Thehound666> so it should tell you
[07:41] <FutureMarine> SlimG: I remeber downloading the 6.10 dapper drake and I have the 7.04 also
[07:41] <stephan21> i dont have kde installed
[07:42] <Thehound666> anyways I did sudo aptitude hold linux-image linux-image-generic linux-headers linux-headers-generic
[07:42] <predaeus> stephan21, I think alsa (if you use those drivers) sometimes switches between default soundcards, you will have to either disable one by bios settings or do some configuration to force alsa to always use the same card. I do not know how to do that.
[07:42] <SlimG> FutureMarine: I guess you won't be needing either of them if your install works now?
[07:42] <Thehound666> but adept still wants to upgrade me
[07:42] <FutureMarine> SlimG: yea
[07:42] <predaeus> stephan21, you can run alsamixer to see what card is currently used.
[07:42] <Thehound666> how do I kill it?
[07:42] <HKJGN__> wols_: that still didnt remove 5.0... do you know the command line arguements for removing java 5.0 and gcj?
[07:43] <stephan21> predaeus: exactly .....thanks :o
[07:43] <Robert98374> Hello Everyone!
[07:43] <wols_> HKJGN__: apt-get remove --purge <package>
[07:43] <HKJGN__> wols_: k
[07:43] <wols_> and everywhere "gcj" is int he name: remove
[07:43] <Robert98374> Anyone know how to make a Bin into a Iso?
[07:43] <wols_> gcj is only needed if you write java programs. in which case you know how and why you need it
[07:44] <WinterHeart> hi ^^
[07:44] <wols_> Robert98374: bchung, bin2iso
[07:44] <wols_> *bchunk
[07:44] <Robert98374> wols thank you
[07:44] <FutureMarine> SlimG: its loading the GUI
[07:44] <HKJGN__> wols_: Package gcj is not installed, so not removed
[07:44] <HKJGN__> o.O
[07:44] <Moduliz0r> I dont understand why its so hard to view the tv card in Linux
[07:44] <stephan21> predaeus: ok i got it.......how can i make it only use this one :/
[07:44] <dudubs> where i can to develop to gnome ?
[07:44] <Robert98374> wols whats the command to install it?
[07:45] <wols_> HKJGN__: guj-4.1
[07:45] <Dustcrazy> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME< I"VE RESORTED TO USING CAPS!!
[07:45] <Thehound666> I'm about to too lol
[07:45] <bruenig> caps gets you nowhere
[07:45] <WinterHeart> i have a question: is possible to install remotly ubuntu server on a dedicated server?
[07:45] <wols_> bruenig: well it gets you banned
[07:45] <FutureMarine> SlimG: thanks
[07:45] <Thehound666> I even helped a few in the mean time
[07:45] <Dustcrazy> Well seating doesn't either
[07:45] <HKJGN__> E: Couldn't find package guj-4.1
[07:45] <vagn> Any one that can tell me how to solve this problem. When i try to connect an Fat32 external hardrive or something like that, i just get this error message: Cannon mount volume. You are not priveleged to mount the volume:Volume Name. Can anyone help me?
[07:45] <bruenig> Dustcrazy, so use one failed technique that is annoying to replace another, make sense
[07:45] <wols_> HKJGN__: typo. gij. read the output of dpkg you pasted
[07:46] <gribelu> hello.. is there any way to have something like m$ terminal server on linux? i need to have a bunch of users remotely logged in, with a gui
[07:46] <WinterHeart> mount the volume with sudo
[07:46] <kitche> gribelu: freenx
[07:46] <predaeus> stephan21, like I told you above, I do not know how to change config files for that. if you can just disable the one you don't need in the BIOS, or unplug it.
[07:46] <wols_> gribelu: LTSP
[07:46] <Dustcrazy> Can you help or do just like making unhelpfull remarks?
[07:46] <wols_> gribelu: google it
[07:46] <Moduliz0r> Would it help if I said my TV card used a Bt878 chip?
[07:46] <gribelu> checking, thank you
[07:46] <kitche> !jfgi
[07:46] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:46] <bruenig> Dustcrazy, I don't even know what your question is, but caps are obnoxious
[07:46] <wols_> vagn: you need to use sudo to mount it
[07:46] <SlimG> FutureMarine: np, now I'm off to new offline adventures, have a splendid day!
[07:47] <Thehound666> well the second acronym I don't even know
[07:47] <Spliffster> is the gnome service manager in ubuntu part of gnome or a seperate app? i have failed to find any infos on the web :(
[07:47] <Thehound666> lol
[07:47] <WinterHeart> i have a question: is possible to install remotly ubuntu server on a dedicated server?
[07:47] <predaeus> WinterHeart, I think somebody here managed to install it with debootstrap on a secondary partition and then switch boot partitions afterwards.
[07:47] <reevester> lol i dont even kno what jfg1 and rtf.m are!
[07:47] <reevester> lol
[07:47] <Thehound666> oh I get it
[07:47] <reevester> i misspelled on purpose!
[07:47] <WinterHeart> ok, thx
[07:47] <Thehound666> came to me somehow
[07:47] <WinterHeart> ^^
[07:47] <Thehound666> :P
[07:47] <wols_> !rtfm
[07:47] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[07:47] <vagn> How do I mount the volume with sudo? ( I am a completely beginner.)
[07:47] <wols_> reevester: Read The Fine Manual
[07:47] <FutureMarine> SlimG: you too?
[07:47] <reevester> hehe
[07:48] <FutureMarine> SlimG: you too
[07:48] <HKJGN__> wols_: well that worked for gcj. but im using sun-java5 as in my dpkg output and it says its not installed
[07:48] <kitche> reevester: just f'en google it and read the f'en manual
[07:48] <Thehound666> jfgi I like that one will have to use it somewhere
[07:48] <bruenig> ubotu, tell Dustcrazy about pm
[07:48] <reevester> hehe ok got the jfgi one!
[07:48] <Spliffster> for all of you who do not know what rtfm means, install "wtf" ... no kidding, its in the bsd-games package ... quiet useful acronym db ;)
[07:48] <Thehound666> spell it out and add .com
[07:48] <wols_> HKJGN__: dpkg -L sun-java5-jre |grep bin
[07:48] <Thehound666> an actual site
[07:49] <HKJGN__> was it supposed to output anything?
[07:49] <wols_> HKJGN__: that's where its executables are stored
[07:49] <Dustcrazy> I just need to know if you can install Ubuntu without loading the desktop and all. Via the boot paramounts...
[07:49] <wols_> Dustcrazy: tried installing the ubuntu server version?
[07:49] <riaal> what is the easyest way to backup media files?
[07:49] <bruenig> !alternate | Dustcrazy
[07:49] <ubotu> Dustcrazy: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[07:49] <Ubuntu_Joe> GUYS!
[07:49] <reevester> Dustcrazy u need the Alternate CD
[07:50] <Dustcrazy> Theres no way to do it from my 6.06 LTS disk?
[07:50] <jh__> hi fellas
[07:50] <wols_> Ubuntu_Joe: what about all the gals in here?
[07:50] <Spliffster> question: is the services admin tool in ubuntu part of gnome? or a seperate app?
[07:50] <HKJGN__> ill just see if google has the answer.. thanks for the help
[07:50] <wols_> Spliffster: gnome is made of a lot of different small packages
[07:50] <lmosher> Hey all. I just did a kernel upgrade and I'm getting some weird things mounted on my desktop. I'm getting a second copy of sda1 (my windows partition) and a copy of my windows backup partition (called "disk"). Both entries are NOT in my fstab and if I go to unmount I get an error that says it disagrees with fstab :(
[07:51] <Spliffster> wols_: ok, i fail to find the service admin package
[07:51] <Thehound666> ok my question scrolled up far enough to do it again
[07:51] <Spliffster> wols_: i fail to even find a tiny little bit of info about it on the web
[07:51] <Ubuntu_Joe> when I try to install Diablo II with Wine, I get all the way through the CD Key entering, and I tell i it to install in Program Files, then I select Install, and it just SITS there, you know where the Progress bars re supposed to be showing PROGRESS, Im using Feisty Ubuntu . . . help?
[07:51] <jh__> how can i add a webcam to my sytems? can anyone help me?
[07:51] <lmosher> Error is: no file newline at the end of /etc/fstab umount: media/sda1 mount disagrees with fstab
[07:51] <reevester> dustcrazy i dont think so
[07:51] <Dustcrazy> ok
[07:51] <Thehound666> I did sudo aptitude hold linux-image linux-image generic linux-headers linux-headers-generic linux-generic but adept still wants to force me to update.
[07:52] <Dustcrazy> What about boot paramounts
[07:52] <reevester> download the alternative disc...its only 700 megs
[07:52] <Thehound666> why didn't that work?
[07:52] <vagn> How can i mount a wolume with sudo?
[07:52] <Thehound666> linux-image-generic?
[07:52] <Thehound666> *
[07:52] <Dustcrazy> Is there any that may help me get my DVD drive to read the live cd better?
[07:52] <FutureMarine> SlimG: I need help its asking for the username and password and Im running the live cd what is it
[07:52] <wols_> Spliffster: do you know the tool's binary on disk?
[07:52] <wols_> if so you can find out what package has it
[07:53] <Moduliz0r> why does XawTV just make my screen blank?
[07:53] <Robert98374> wols do i need to compile the code for Bin2Iso?
[07:53] <reevester> hey yea....when u get to the login screen on the live disc....what do u need to put?
[07:53] <wols_> Robert98374: iirc it's a perl script or was. not sure tho
[07:53] <jh__> can anyone help me on how to add a webcam? im new with linux
[07:53] <bruenig> bin2iso is a c program
[07:53] <Thehound666> is this a bug in Feisy or am I missing something?
[07:53] <Thehound666> Feisty*
[07:54] <SlimG> FutureMarine: Doesn't it say on the background image or something?
[07:54] <Moduliz0r> hello?
[07:54] <zak__> ANAL PENETRATION > YOUR LIFE
[07:54] <psykidellic> hi...i have a init  script which i copied to /etc/init.d folder .. now i want to configure it for varioys rc.d ... which tool should i use? my frnd said that i should not do it manually but rather use the tool but he couldnt tell me the tool :0
[07:54] <MrC_> hi there
[07:54] <Moduliz0r> Why does XawTV make my screen just go black
[07:54] <bruenig> !offtopic | zak__
[07:54] <ubotu> zak__: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:54] <wols_> Spliffster: if you find the exectuable: dpkg -S <patch to exectuable> and it will tell you the package it came from
[07:54] <FutureMarine> SlimG: Let me check but I dont think it does
[07:54] <reevester> SlimG no...nothing else is there...it just says "User ubuntu logs in in xxx seconds"
[07:54] <FutureMarine> SlimG: no it doesnt
[07:55] <MrC_> i would to change my Gaim to Pidgin but i can't find it from repo or synaptic.Does anyone knows how could i install it?
[07:55] <Robert98374> wols the only thing that i am getting when i look for Bin2Iso is this code http://mange.dynup.net/linux/bin2iso/bin2iso.c
[07:55] <bruenig> MrC_, compile it
[07:55] <Thehound666> me try other chan
[07:55] <jariep1_> hello
[07:55] <jariep1_> i am looking for a wiki i can use as desktop for windows
[07:55] <FutureMarine> SlimG: no it doesnt
[07:55] <jariep1_> i can't remember the name
[07:55] <SlimG> FutureMarine: atleast the username should be ubuntu, try asking on the channel here
[07:55] <bruenig> Robert98374, gcc -o bin2iso bin2iso.c
[07:56] <khar> i'm looking for help with install unreal tournament (it's not normal problem with use wine... )
[07:56] <noobsauce> lol
[07:56] <Robert98374> brueng ok, but do i need to add where i saved the file?
[07:56] <predaeus> khar, there is a linux installer for ut I think
[07:56] <PriceChild> !offtopic | noobsauce HaSH
[07:56] <ubotu> noobsauce HaSH: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:56] <vagn> How do you munt something with the moun command?
[07:56] <SlimG> What's the password of the Xubuntu 7.04 Live session?
[07:56] <FutureMarine> Does anyone know the username and password for Xubuntu?
[07:56] <wols_> Robert98374: http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/otherosfs/bchunk
[07:56] <Dustcrazy> Can some give me a linnk to this Alternate CD?
[07:56] <FutureMarine> Does anyone know the username and password for Xubuntu? For the live cd
[07:56] <easytiger> anyone get vm ware server 1.0.3 to work on ubuntu 7.10?
[07:57] <bruenig> Robert98374, save the file on the drive and do that, obviously the bin2iso parts need to have paths if you aren't in the directory
[07:57] <PriceChild> easytiger, #ubuntu+1 for 7.10
[07:57] <Moduliz0r> hi can someone help me find out why xawtv just makes my screen go black now?
[07:57] <PriceChild> noobsauce, Please stay on topic in this channel or leave.
[07:57] <wftl> Hello all, any reason why a stock Edgy system (so I'm told by my customer, anyhow) would have Debian etch repos enabled?
[07:57] <SlimG> FutureMarine: You could also install the alternate version with the irqpoll parameter, that should work
[07:57] <noobsauce> sorry :(
[07:57] <bruenig> FutureMarine, the username is ubuntu probably, you don't need either though, just use sudo if you need root it won't ask for a password
[07:57] <bruenig> wftl, it is not stock
[07:58] <MrC_> and is it there any way to get linux mint from sudo command?
[07:58] <FutureMarine> bruenig: thanks
[07:58] <n2diy> Dustcrazy: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/xubuntu/6.06.1/release.1/
[07:58] <wftl> bruenig: My thoughts exactly.
[07:58] <bruenig> MrC_, linux mint is kind of a waste, get the iso and install it, if you just want certain packages like flash and codecs which is what mint adds, then ask those and someone will tell you the packages
[07:59] <wftl> bruenig: He claims he didn't change anything, but . . .
[07:59] <Robert98374> wols thank you :-)
[07:59] <FutureMarine> SlimG: k
[08:00] <MrC_> yep this exactly what i am looking for bruering
[08:00] <bruenig> MrC_, name it
[08:00] <Ubuntu_Joe> anyone know about wine?
[08:00] <bruenig> !anyone | Ubuntu_Joe
[08:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu_Joe: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:01] <Ubuntu_Joe> I did . . . no one responded
[08:01] <bruenig> !patience | Ubuntu_Joe
[08:01] <ubotu> Ubuntu_Joe: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[08:01] <wftl> Ubuntu_Joe: What, specifically, about wine do you want to know?
[08:01] <valehru> guys...ever since I installed feisty my laptop is heating up something shocking..
[08:01] <Ubuntu_Joe> when I try to install Diablo II with Wine, I get all the way through the CD Key entering, and I tell i it to install in Program Files, then I select Install, and it just SITS there, you know where the Progress bars re supposed to be showing PROGRESS, Im using Feisty Ubuntu . . . help?
[08:01] <valehru> is there an application to monitor and control fans in feisty?
[08:01] <ahmed> guys ,, when i try to access the login in the administration of gnome i get this message : GDM (The GNOME Display Manager) is not running.,,, its true because i installed kde but how to switch back to gnome login manager ??
[08:02] <MrC_> how to install windows programs on Wine for ex?
[08:02] <bruenig> valehru, oh let me guess what the shocking thing it is heating up, um.... ostrich eggs
[08:02] <valehru> Ubuntu_Joe, ask in #wine
[08:02] <Ubuntu_Joe> (I figured you guys just missed it the first time, that's all, not being rude, I know you guys are volunteers
[08:02] <Moduliz0r> guys I just need to be able to see my composite input for my TV card, thats all, why can't I seem to get anything to work?
[08:02] <reevester> is xubuntu ver 7.04 as good as ubuntu 7.04 ?
[08:02] <sivaji> process table show more than 100 process but only two or three are running shall i kill process that are not running
[08:02] <valehru> bruenig, eh?  try talking some sense.
[08:02] <wols_> ahmed: ctrl+alt+f1, log in, sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:02] <bruenig> valehru, you said it was heating up something shocking, what is this shocking things it is heating up
[08:03] <Ubuntu_Joe> I asked in #winehq . . . nothing there either
[08:03] <reevester> any main differences apart from the gonme/xfce difference? will i be able to run all the apps on xubuntu?
[08:03] <bruenig> thing*
[08:03] <valehru> bruenig, my hands.....its boiling.
[08:03] <Smygis> reevester, yes
[08:03] <wols_> ahmed: for permanence: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[08:03] <bruenig> that isn't shocking
[08:03] <bruenig> of course it would heat your hands up, your hands are needed to type
[08:03] <valehru> bruenig, well if only you knew my hands...
[08:03] <wols_> reevester: yes. you can even install gnome later if you want
[08:03] <Moduliz0r> so you are all just going to ignore me then...
[08:03] <n2diy> sivaji: no, let the system manage the processes.
[08:03] <bruenig> Moduliz0r, yeah, you didn't see but I pmed the other 1210, we are doing it on purpose
[08:04] <reevester> hmm kk
[08:04] <wols_> Moduliz0r: we are not all knowing
[08:04] <valehru> bruenig, stfu.  Since when has this channel attracted idiots.....le sigh......think I'll go back to Debian.
[08:04] <purpzey> Moduliz0r: TV cards are not the most common thing, we may not know
[08:04] <wftl> Ubuntu_Joe: Game support under basic wine isn't great. Try http://www.cedega.com/ instead. They have a fine-tuned version of Wine, specifically for games.
[08:04] <PriceChild> !stfu | valehru
[08:04] <ubotu> valehru: Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[08:04] <purpzey> Moduliz0r: Check the forums.
[08:04] <wols_> valehru: please don't
[08:04] <Robert98374> wols how do i get that program going?
[08:04] <Krazy> GRUB Error 22 ???
[08:04] <sivaji> n2diy : it is wasting my memory
[08:04] <Robert98374> Ubuntu_joe
[08:04] <Smygis> wftl, More like stolen
[08:05] <wols_> Robert98374: by reading its docs in /usr/share/doc/ for example. by checking manpages, etc
[08:05] <valehru> wftl, wine works better than Cedega on certain games....no point in paying for something that you can get for free....le sigh..
[08:05] <Robert98374> Ubuntu_joe have you tried the #winehq channel?
[08:05] <PriceChild> Smygis, its not stolen. That's the point in licenses like that.... EOD in this channel.
[08:05] <wols_> Robert98374: to see what bianries it installed: dpkg -L <packagenamne>|grep bin
[08:05] <n2diy> sivaji: sleeping processes don't use memory,  run top, to see for yourself.
[08:05] <valehru> Ubuntu_Joe, wait till Enverex is on...he's the one to ask for help in there.....in #winehq.
[08:05] <AlexanderM> can anyone tell me how i can change my theme with emerald/beryl?
[08:06] <kkathman> AlexanderM,  use beryl-manager
[08:06] <geografo> pessoal, to usando o ubuntu.. gostaria de saber qual ou quais os melhores programas de IRC??
[08:06] <CheshireViking> !br | geografo
[08:06] <ubotu> geografo: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:07] <valehru> wols_, when you start getting answers like I was getting you suddenly get annoyed and type stupid things.  anyhow....ostrich eggs has nothing to do with what I was asking....why are people not as hasty when they obviously are not on topic?
[08:07] <AlexanderM> kkathman: but where is the option?:P didn't find it, or i'm i jus keeping my eyes shut?
[08:07] <reevester> lol
[08:07] <kkathman> AlexanderM,  right click on beryl-manager - then look at emerald
[08:07] <kkathman> those are your themes
[08:08] <sldkfj> does anyone know how I would come back from being away in xchat.
[08:08] <AlexanderM> kkathman: i see several themes, but how can i change? double-clicking doesn't do the trick. right clicking doesnt?
[08:08] <rapid> i just install 7.01 on my laptop and after running sudo apt-get update i end up >> http://pastebin.ca/519545
[08:08] <n2diy> What is the difference between the Alternate CD, and the Alternate.Torrent CD?
[08:08] <PriceChild> n2diy, they are the same
[08:08] <valehru> sldkfj, type back
[08:08] <reevester> .torrent = a torrent download
[08:08] <PriceChild> n2diy, except one you download with http, and the other using a torrent program
[08:08] <valehru> sldkfj, type //back
[08:08] <reevester> the former one is a direct download via http
[08:08] <kkathman> hmm normally you just click on it and it changes...thats what happens for me - be sure you have chosen beryl  too
[08:09] <JTARGA-BR> Hi all
[08:09] <sldkfj> valehru, thanks, that did it.
[08:09] <valehru> sldkfj, np
[08:09] <ahmed> guys in the update manager, there are some updates for the kernel and so on that i cant update,, it says i need to do a partial update when i click on partial update it gets me this error :Can't install 'ubuntu-desktop' then couldnt calculte the upgrade
[08:09] <ahmed> plz help
[08:09] <PriceChild> ahmed, are you on gutsy?
[08:09] <AlexanderM> kkathman: window manager > beryl, window decorator > emerald (beryl)
[08:09] <ahmed> fiesty
[08:09] <kkathman> yep
[08:09] <ahmed> pricechild, ?
[08:09] <valehru> 2am...time for bed...laters
[08:09] <PriceChild> ahmed, I don't know sorry
[08:10] <ahmed> how to update these packages then
[08:10] <ahmed> any other way ?
[08:10] <AlexanderM> kkathman:  ah emerald-replace in console did the trick
[08:10] <bet0x> Hello all, i recently upgrade to festy and my nvidia was broquen
[08:10] <kkathman> :)
[08:10] <kkathman> good :)
[08:10] <JTARGA-BR> good
[08:10] <sivaji> rapid : run this command "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[08:10] <n2diy> PriceChild: ok, the torrent iso is only 27k in size, vs 675m for the regular CD. So the torrent version will boot from CD, and start torrent, and complete the install?
[08:10] <AlexanderM> kkathman: but i have to do it everytime i select another theme :P
[08:10] <PriceChild> n2diy, no
[08:10] <bet0x> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-9755, but this X module has the version 1.0-9631
[08:10] <bet0x> :S
[08:11] <PriceChild> n2diy, the torrent download, gets opened by a torrent applicatino on your current OS, which then downloads the same as the http one.
[08:11] <reevester> im off to sleep too....laterz y a'll
[08:11] <rapid> sivaji, i did on line 40
[08:11] <kkathman> AlexanderM,  not sure why - thats true here in ubuntu, but not other distros...perhaps a different version :)
[08:11] <sivaji> rapid : try aptitude
[08:11] <kkathman> I havent researched it
[08:11] <rapid> sivaji, sorry?
[08:11] <AlexanderM> kkathman: installed yesterday, ahh what the hell it works:D
[08:11] <AlexanderM> kkathman: thank you:)!
[08:12] <sivaji> rapid : cant u get me
[08:12] <kkathman> AlexanderM,  if it works dont fix it :)   you're welcome :)
[08:12] <ahmed> guys how to update a package without using the update manager ??
[08:12] <rapid> sivaji, i just installed it, sorry, if i don't understand you.
[08:12] <JTARGA-BR> ahmed Yes
[08:12] <JTARGA-BR> run apt-get update
[08:12] <ahmed> how then
[08:12] <ahmed>  ?
[08:13] <ahmed> done
[08:13] <JTARGA-BR> and then apt-get upgrade
[08:13] <ahmed> but still packages arent updated
[08:13] <ahmed> done too
[08:13] <rapid> sivaji, so aptitude is a curses apt?
[08:13] <n2diy> PriceChild: ok, I'm confused, but it isn't important, I'll let the DL sort it out. :)
[08:13] <freezey>  howdo you remove a dir and all of its contents
[08:13] <ahmed> still i get list of packages to be updated in update manager
[08:13] <rapid> freezey, rm -rf dir
[08:13] <frojnd> can someone take a look at this error, CINELERRA gives me this error when I start cinelerra. What does it mean??? I screened it since I wasn't able to copy the text.
[08:13] <ahmed> JTARGA-BR, ?
[08:13] <Bluetooth> hi all
[08:13] <sivaji> rapid :"sudo aptitude update"
[08:14] <sivaji> rapid : then "sudo aptitude upgrade"
[08:14] <rapid> thanks..
[08:14] <rapid> why is the other broken?
[08:14] <JTARGA-BR> ahmed - you run the apt-get upgrade in text mode??
[08:14] <ahmed> in terminal ,, yeas
[08:14] <sivaji> rapid : is it ok now
[08:14] <SpaceBass> anyone using fuse with feisty?
[08:15] <AlexanderM> brb
[08:15] <ahmed> well now i am updating them using synaptic instead,,,
[08:15] <ahmed> thx anyway
[08:15] <rapid> sivaji, its Preparing to replace capplets-data 1:2.18.1-0ubuntu2 (using .../capplets-data_1%3a2.18.1-0ubuntu2.1_all.deb) ...
[08:15] <Vry> guys what software can i use to check my hard drive ?
[08:15] <Vry> for erros
[08:15] <PriceChild> Vry, ubuntu should do that by default
[08:15] <rapid> sivaji, seems to be working
[08:15] <JTARGA-BR> ahmed - synaptic is the same wich apt-get, synaptic is only frontend
[08:15] <roryy> Vry: you can try 'badblocks'
[08:16] <rapid> sivaji, the other one just made the hard drive turn for ages
[08:16] <ahmed> i know but apt-get didnt work :S
[08:16] <Dustcrazy> Quick question, is there any boot parameters that I can set on the Live CD to make it faster?
[08:16] <bruenig> ahmed, you did it wrong
[08:16] <JTARGA-BR> ahmed :S
[08:16] <Noodlesgc> can someone help me please? Ubuntu wont instal on my laptop
[08:16] <ahmed> wat do u mean ?
[08:16] <ahmed> i marked the for upgrade in the upgradable section in synaptic
[08:16] <rapid> sivaji, cheers its working.
[08:16] <ahmed> wats wrong in thAT ?
[08:16] <Vry>  have a problem , my OS boots and LOAds but after i log on. i am left with a black sceen
[08:16] <bruenig> Dustcrazy, oh parameters, see before you were saying paramounts, I thought there was something I hadn't heard of
[08:16] <rapid> sivaji, merci
[08:17] <JTARGA-BR> ahmed  I dont now, because the synaptic and apt-get lock and read the same file database
[08:17] <ahmed> the update manager couldnt update it , it came up with errors ...
[08:17] <ahmed> wateva... anyway JTARGA-BR do u know how to remove kde?
[08:17] <Dustcrazy> Yea, opps
[08:17] <sivaji> rapid : sorry i cant get u i am not good in english
[08:17] <rapid> sivaji, merci = thanks
[08:17] <Robert98374> Wols thanks for the help :-)
[08:17] <bruenig> ahmed, if you said apt-get didn't work, it was because you did it wrong
[08:18] <Dustcrazy> I just realized it about 10 minutes ago
[08:18] <Ix0s> ahmed, if you want to get rid of everything could try 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop' if you installed kubuntu
[08:18] <frojnd> can someone take a look at this error, CINELERRA gives me this error when I start cinelerra. What does it mean??? I screened it since I wasn't able to copy the text. http://shrani.si/?cinelerra11fvi.png
[08:18] <ahmed> lx0s tried that didnt remove except 42kb and kde is still working
[08:18] <ahmed> :S
[08:18] <bruenig> Dustcrazy, safe graphics mode is probably the only thing that will speed it up much, just get the alternate cd if you want a text based install, it is good to go on any computer
[08:18] <bruenig> well almost any
[08:18] <Dustcrazy> ok
[08:18] <frojnd> If I do like this: sudo echo "0x7fffffff" > /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax    what will do this?? It was in error note when I started the cinelerra: http://shrani.si/?cinelerra11fvi.png
[08:19] <rapid> wtf
[08:19] <rapid> lol
[08:19] <bruenig> !english
[08:19] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[08:19] <bruenig> frojnd, echo  "0x7fffffff" | sudo tee /proc/sys/kernel/shmmax
[08:20] <JTARGA-BR> ahmed the IX0s is right
[08:20] <frojnd> bruenig: what will this command do?
[08:21] <Krazy> i need to get rid of GRUB, but I've already gotten rid of Ubuntu. How can I do this
[08:21] <bruenig> frojnd, same thing you are trying to do, you can't use > because the sudo is only applying to the echo, not the the redirect, so you have to pipe it using sudo tee
[08:21] <Balshoy> I have a major problem my broadcast address keeps on changing... and I cannot connect to the net... I somehow managed to get it working again... but after a restart... the same problem
[08:21] <sivaji>  any developer here please tell me
[08:21] <Noodlesgc> this place blows
[08:21] <Balshoy> can anyone help?
[08:21] <frojnd> kul, tnx brening
[08:21] <ninina> anyone know how to open OpenOffice.org with the command line?
[08:22] <ninina> nm i found it
[08:22] <roryy> Krazy: do you want to reinstall windows?  if so, windows should overwrite grub
[08:22] <KromiX> Hey my ubuntu guru friends I have a question about Raid1 --- I currently have 2 hard drives independent right now. MainHD: Windows XP(NTFS) SecondaryHD: Ubuntu... I want to format NTFS drive and wipe windows and create a RAID1 mirrror to my Ubuntu installation, and then after that make a small partition for Windows XP and re-install a fresh copy of it. Is this possible???
[08:23] <Krazy> Windows is already on another drive, but I can't get past GRUB, and since i deleted ubuntu now I have problems getting to xp recovery console
[08:24] <Krazy> to fix mbr
[08:24] <bruenig> put in your windows disk
[08:24] <Vry> Krazy:its not recovery
[08:25] <roryy> Krazy: hm. Your options are to look for a windows boot cd with fixmbr or something similar, or perhaps use the ubuntu live cd to setup grub to boot windows
[08:25] <roryy> Krazy: or possibly something else.  You can ask in ##windows for windows support
[08:25] <avinashm> hi all. Is there a way to "upgrade" an AMD64 Dapper computer to x86 Feisty? Is this possible?
[08:25] <laser-> where can I find some Security guides/docs/etc. for Ubuntu 7.04 ?
[08:25] <Balshoy> I have a major problem my broadcast address keeps on changing... and I cannot connect to the net... I somehow managed to get it working again... but after a restart... the same problem
[08:25] <Balshoy> can anyone help?
[08:25] <Ix0s> avinashm, It seems easier to do a fresh install
[08:26] <Krazy> i didn't think about that. thanks
[08:27] <Th3Sourc3> I'm getting some severe graphics tearing problems after beryl failed to install because of the ATI card I was using...  The OS loading screen works fine, but the login and the desktop screen all have alternating black/white lines.  Running Ubuntu from a live disc helps; I can still get to my files, but I need the partition I had to work...
[08:27] <avinashm> Ix0s: That's what I am telling myself. But my CD drive does not work anymore and I don't know how to do a network install without a CD.
[08:27] <Krazy> for future reference, the reason i uninstalled ubuntu was bc my network adapter wasn't supported. I wanted to go back to only XP. How should I have done so properly
[08:27] <hendrixski> avinashm, you'd have to upgrade to edgy, and then to feisty ... each one takes about half the time it takes to do a fresh install... so depending on how much data you ahve that you want to keep...
[08:27] <bruenig> Krazy, this is the proper way, you either have to keep grub on, perhaps creating a separate boot partition, or wipe ubuntu and overwrite the mbr
[08:27] <roryy> Krazy: figured out a way to get the windows bootloader onto the master boot record (MBR -- where grub lives) before nuking ubuntu
[08:28] <avinashm> hendrixski: I want to move from AMD64 to x86. That's the difficult part in my opinion.
[08:28] <Fathefner> how do u set the screen to a defualt resolution when u start up
[08:28] <AlexanderM> pf
[08:28] <Spliffster> question: if I want a minimal ubuntu install, should i go with the server distribution? how large is a minimal install ?
[08:29] <bruenig> !netinstall | Spliffster
[08:29] <AlexanderM> now my beryl/xgl is f.. up
[08:29] <ubotu> Spliffster: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:29] <roryy> Spliffster: i think it's in the region of 500 MB
[08:29] <Vry> will this work ? Device for boot loader installation:(/media/usbdisk)
[08:29] <Krazy> thanks
[08:29] <Spliffster> bruenig: is netinstall the same as debians net installer?
[08:29] <Spliffster> and ty
[08:29] <Vry> i usaully put (fd0)
[08:29] <bruenig> Spliffster, don't know if it is exactly the same, same concept though. It is a small iso, like 5 mb or something and you just download it all
[08:30] <Spliffster> bruenig: brilliant! exactly what I am looking for!
[08:30] <markie> have anybody experiance with the hybserv ircdaemon running on ubuntu ?
[08:30] <eegore> I heard Creative is releasing binary only drivers for the the X-Fi series
[08:30] <eegore> They are giving full EAX support but with a price, binary only
[08:30] <Vry> how do you load grub on a usb stick ?   (/media/usbdisk)   ??
[08:31] <mjr> eegore, bugger
[08:31] <eegore> tell me about it
[08:31] <ufoeraser> guys
[08:31] <Balshoy> I have a major problem my broadcast address keeps on changing... and I cannot connect to the net... I somehow managed to get it working again... but after a restart... the same problem
[08:31] <Th3Sourc3> I'm having some terrible graphics problems.  Can anyone pm me with help?
[08:31] <Balshoy> can anyone help?
[08:31] <Balshoy> I have a major problem my broadcast address keeps on changing... and I cannot connect to the net... I somehow managed to get it working again... but after a restart... the same problem
[08:31] <Balshoy> can anyone help?
[08:32] <Balshoy> I have a major problem my broadcast address keeps on changing... and I cannot connect to the net... I somehow managed to get it working again... but after a restart... the same problem
[08:32] <KromiX> Hey my ubuntu guru friends I have a question about Raid1 --- I currently have 2 hard drives independent right now. MainHD: Windows XP(NTFS) SecondaryHD: Ubuntu... I want to format NTFS drive and wipe windows and create a RAID1 mirrror to my Ubuntu installation, and then after that make a small partition for Windows XP and re-install a fresh copy of it. Is this possible???
[08:32] <Balshoy> can anyone help?
[08:32] <Ix0s> !repeat | Balshoy
[08:32] <ubotu> Balshoy: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[08:32] <eegore> mjr:but it is the fastest sounf card with the highes sample rate
[08:32] <Fathefner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23133/ can so one please show me how to when n i start ubuntu that my screen resolution automatically goes to 1400, 1050
[08:33] <Ix0s> Fathefner, Well, going off my experience, I delted all the resolutions under the 'modes' line and then added my '1280x1024'
[08:34] <Th3Sourc3> Fathefner, System -> Preferences -> Screen Resolution, Under Default Settings, click your resolution and then check Make Default for this Computer.
[08:34] <J03L> whats the sudo command to set up the roots psswd?
[08:34] <n2diy> What is a hostname cloak?
[08:35] <Spliffster> J03L: altough it's not recommended: $ sudo passwd
[08:35] <PriceChild> n2diy, notice I don't have an ip... i have ubuntu/member/pricechild ?
[08:35] <J03L> why is it not recommended?
[08:35] <J03L> sometimes i like to use su mode
[08:35] <n2diy> PriceChild: roger roger, cool.
[08:35] <J03L> and i just reinstalled feisty
[08:35] <magnetron> !cloak | n2diy
[08:35] <ubotu> n2diy: Tor & other common anonymizing proxies get abused to attack & spam Ubuntu channels, so they're blocked. Get a cloak from Freenode instead, and stop wasting your time with Tor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[08:35] <Spliffster> J03L: some people belive it is a security issue.
[08:35] <J03L> oooh
[08:36] <Spliffster> J03L: and it really can be
[08:36] <J03L> oh well
[08:36] <J03L> oh
[08:36] <J03L> another thing...
[08:36] <inuz> hey guys, can someone help me to set up my 3D acceleration? i installed it automatically via Envy, but when i type fglrxinfo into the console it still runs with mesa and says "Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"
[08:36] <bruenig> !enter
[08:36] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:36] <J03L> in the setup i chose some keyboard config...
[08:36] <Spliffster> J03L: sudo is really a nice solution. and if you want to be root, try "$ sudo -i" which gives you a root prompt
[08:36] <J03L> and now when i try to type theres for example, it appears as there
[08:36] <kaostikon1> jola yall
[08:36] <inuz> i have an ati radeon 9600pro
[08:37] <Th3Sourc3> How do I edit a .conf file from the gui without root permissions?
[08:37] <bruenig> !enter | inuz
[08:37] <ubotu> inuz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[08:37] <bruenig> Th3Sourc3, you don't
[08:37] <aoirthoir> Th3Sourc3, you have to have root permission if the owner is root.
[08:37] <kaostikon1> i just updated my apache to 2.2.4 and i am having trouble getting it to run in ubuntu.....? any suggestions????
[08:37] <Th3Sourc3> aoirthoir, I am the owner, but it won't let me login as root from the livecd
[08:37] <PriceChild> !sudo | Th3Sourc3
[08:38] <ubotu> Th3Sourc3: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:38] <bruenig> Th3Sourc3, use the command line
[08:38] <Balshoy> +stn
[08:38] <Balshoy> hello
[08:38] <Balshoy> anyone
[08:38] <earthen> I have a a problem with playing videos I can only see the screen when I'm moving the player around
[08:38] <Balshoy> I have a major problem my broadcast address keeps on changing... and I cannot connect to the net... I somehow managed to get it working again... but after a restart... the same problem
[08:38] <aoirthoir> Th3Sourc3, try ALT-F2 GKSUDO GEDIT filename
[08:38] <aoirthoir> Th3Sourc3, see if that works.
[08:38] <PriceChild> Th3Sourc3, aoirthoir no capitals
[08:39] <Fathefner> Ix0s, what do i delete from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23136/
[08:39] <Fathefner> Th3Sourc3, that doesnt work
[08:39] <Ix0s> Fathefner, You see right at the bottom the 'modes' line
[08:39] <Th3Sourc3> Bruenig, the problem is that the graphics error I'm having from my harddisk means I have to run any terminal from the livecd.  It's not showing the conf file I need when I run with sudo from the live terminal.
[08:39] <_lelik1_> hi guys
[08:39] <Tacroy> Is there a way of using apt to install an older version of a package?
[08:40] <bruenig> Th3Sourc3, if you can see the conf file in nautilus, you can get to it in the terminal
[08:40] <Ix0s> Fathefner, Id have sommit like this "Theresolutionxyouwant" "1024x768" "800x600" thats what I have anyhows always works for me
[08:40] <elyase> hello, what is the best way to save settings of evolution, before a total reinstall?
[08:40] <bruenig> elyase, is there a ~/.evolution folder?
[08:41] <elyase> yea i think
[08:41] <Fathefner> Ix0s, im not seein it
[08:41] <Th3Sourc3> bruenig, it's under /media/disk/etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom, but when I do sudo gedit /media/disk/etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom, the file has 0 text.
[08:41] <elyase> is everything there?
[08:41] <bruenig> elyase, back it up and put it back before you run it on the reinstall
[08:41] <bruenig> Th3Sourc3, you probably have a typo somewhere
[08:41] <elyase> bruenig: thanks
[08:41] <b^j> i am trying to do a network based install using a preseed file for feisy fawn.  I had it working great under edgy but am having some issues with feisty.  My current issue is that the partitioner is telling me i have no root file system.  any ideas?
[08:42] <Th3Sourc3> bruenig, I feel stupid.
[08:42] <Th3Sourc3> bruenig, that's what it was.
[08:42] <bruenig> Th3Sourc3, tends to be the error when it shows up with no text
[08:42] <Ix0s> Fathefner, After it says Depth 24
[08:43] <Moduliz0r> so
[08:43] <inuz> can someone help me to set up my 3D acceleration? i installed it automatically via Envy, but when i type fglrxinfo into the console it still runs with mesa and says "Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0" - I have a ATI Radeon 9600Pro
[08:43] <Moduliz0r> how can I view my TV card's composite input?
[08:43] <kaostikon1>  how do i login as root to delete files in gnome????
[08:43] <Fathefner> Ix0s, i set it to SubSection     "Display"
[08:43] <Fathefner>         Depth       24
[08:43] <Fathefner>         Modes      "1400x1050" "800x600" "640x480"
[08:43] <Fathefner>     EndSubSection
[08:43] <Fathefner> EndSection
[08:43] <Ix0s> Fathefner, Yeah the Modes line
[08:43] <Fathefner> so did i do it right
[08:43] <elyase> what do you think is best for beryl under feisty, using Nvidia propietary drivers or the ones that come with the distribution wich i think are open source?
[08:44] <Fathefner> Ix0s, did i do it right
[08:44] <Spliffster> !pastebin | Fathefner
[08:44] <ubotu> Fathefner: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:44] <Ix0s> Fathefner, Yeah
[08:44] <Fathefner> Ix0s, now i will try
[08:44] <Ix0s> elyase, I know its kinda against linux but the propertiary
[08:44] <conhe> what rules add in iptables for firewall security ? with squid proxy
[08:45] <elyase> Ix0s: thanks
[08:45] <n2diy> Ix0s: aren't the propertiary ones for Winders?
[08:45] <dxdt> elyase: At this point as far as workingness goes, the Nvidia ones are probably better.  The nouveau project is maturing quickly, though.
[08:45] <Moduliz0r> can anybody help me figure out why XawTV makes my whole screen go black?
[08:45] <Ix0s> n2diy, Nope they do linux ones as well
[08:45] <fdr> hi! Why isn't laptop_mode enabled by default on my laptop? Is it a bug or a feature?
[08:46] <elyase> and what can you say about the ccs project, is it mature against beryl
[08:46] <Th3Sourc3> Thanks for the help, aoirthoir and bruenig!
[08:46] <elyase> ?
[08:46] <n2diy> Ix0s: ok, that's a small step in the right direction.
[08:46] <FERNANDA> oi
[08:46] <TJoad> Hello all - Could someone please give me some help with shell behaviour. I'm not new to Linux but this one's got me stumped. :(
[08:46] <aoirthoir> Th3Sourc3, YW g. Holler back any time.
[08:47] <roryy> TJoad: ask and we'll try
[08:47] <mwtb> My Ubuntu server install has started shutting itself down after a day or so. There's nothing in /var/log/messages, is there somewhere else I should look to try and diagnose the problem?
[08:47] <Ix0s> n2diy, They have had them out for a while
[08:47] <TJoad> The problem I'm having is that when I type a line into konsole (or whatever) that's longer than the width the commands keeps going off the edge of the screen rather than wrapping to a new line.
[08:48] <elyase> and what can you say about the Compiz-Beryl unified project ccs, is it mature and recomendable to install it in place of beryl?
[08:48] <TJoad> This wouldn't be so bad but if I need to go back and edit the command the first ten or so characters can't be changed and the command gets fscked. :(
[08:48] <elyase> r it not time yet?
[08:48] <kaostikon1> yo anyone available please let me know... :)
[08:48] <kaostikon1> l
[08:48] <crabgrass> !ask
[08:48] <b^j> any ideas why my i'm getting the error "No root file system is defined" from the installer when doing a network based install?
[08:48] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:49] <kkathman> kaostikon1,  ask your question
[08:49] <crabgrass> uc davis whaddup
[08:49] <elyase> is there any chat about beryl or Opencopositing project?
[08:49] <Ix0s> #ubuntu-effects
[08:50] <Ix0s> #beryl
[08:50] <kaostikon1> i am trying to install a new version of apache (2.2.4) and i have dl it already and i am trying to get it to work.... also to delete the old apache
[08:50] <roryy> TJoad: that's pretty weird. does it happen in xterms and in text-only consoles (e.g., tty1) too?
[08:50] <Ix0s> Fathefner, Did that do the trick?
[08:50] <Fathefner> Ix0s, yes it di thank u
[08:50] <wols_> kaostikon1: wgat you can get via apt-get not good enough?
[08:50] <TJoad> roryy - xterm just confirmed.
[08:50] <Fathefner> Ix0s, wow now for something completely different
[08:51] <TJoad> roryy - Hang on and I'll just to text-only
[08:51] <TJoad> roryy - Yup. :-/
[08:51] <kaostikon1> i have it in synaptic and in my etc/apache2 folder now getting it to run is the issue wols_
[08:51] <FERNANDA> oiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[08:51] <Ix0s> Fathefner, What?
[08:52] <wols_> kaostikon1: what are the error(s) if you try to install it with synaptic?
[08:52] <Fathefner> Ix0s, make program automatically startup in ubuntu
[08:52] <Truth[laptop] > Hi, I'm having trouble installing the proprietary ATI drivers (using their instructions) when I execute the installer it says "Syntax Error: Bad Substitution" can anyone help me up?
[08:52] <ubuntified> I have a ati radeon graphics card but ubuntu identifies it as nvidia card and in restricted drivers window also enables nvidia drivers pls help i am very new to ubuntu
[08:52] <ubuntified> HELP
[08:52] <Fathefner> Ix0s, to google
[08:52] <Ix0s> Fathefner, Go to system-->prefernece-->session, auto start
[08:52] <kaostikon1> no errors just not running ?
[08:52] <kaostikon1> wols_
[08:52] <kcw1304> Hi! I am having trouble with my wireless internet. It was working before and the networks show up, just won't connect - anyone have any suggestions?
[08:52] <roryy> TJoad: what version of ubuntu are you on?  and do you have any idea what might've changed to cause this?
[08:52] <maria> how can I install another network interface like ra0 ?
[08:52] <wols_> kaostikon1: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[08:53] <Th3Sourc3> kcw1304, is your network unprotected?
[08:53] <wols_> maria: load the driver for your NIC
[08:53] <cox377> does anyone have any idea what the commandline would be to restart azureus from command line, it's the full azureus not the headless?
[08:53] <wols_> maria: or the wlan card in this case
[08:53] <wols_> maria: if you have already loaded it: /sbin/ifconfig -a to check if the interface exists
[08:53] <kcw1304> yes (doesn't require password)
[08:53] <kaostikon1> ok.... so when i entered that into terminal, it gave me  a blank
[08:53] <kaostikon1> ie
[08:53] <wols_> if yes, then you only need to configure it, either via /etc/network/interfaces or gnome network manager
[08:53] <kaostikon1> root@dhst-desktop:~#  sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[08:53] <kaostikon1> root@dhst-desktop:~#
[08:54] <visualdeception> cox377...i think it is ./azureus
[08:54] <kaostikon1> i did hit enter
[08:54] <TJoad> roryy- I'm on 7.04. What changed was moving from Fedora Core to Ubuntu! ;)
[08:54] <wols_> kaostikon1: check if it's running now
[08:54] <cox377> visualdeception: umm as in ./azureus restart
[08:54] <ubuntified> PLs can some one help me ? I have a ati radeon graphics card but ubuntu identifies it as nvidia card and in restricted drivers window also enables nvidia drivers pls help i am very new to ubuntu HELP
[08:54] <visualdeception> i believe so
[08:54] <roryy> TJoad: so it's always been broken for you?
[08:54] <roryy> TJoad: i mean, under ubuntu
[08:54] <kaostikon1> wols_ unable to connect to server
[08:54] <maria> wols_: how ?
[08:54] <Ix0s> Fathefner, Find it?
[08:55] <b^j> i am getting an error when i install that "No root file system is defined" any ideas?
[08:55] <wols_> maria: how what?
[08:55] <TJoad> roryy - Yeah. I assumed it was the default Ubuntu behaviour, but I haven't found a way to change it back. :(
[08:55] <gripner> for ati/nvidia driver installation, try out a program called Envy
[08:55] <elyase> hey is there any very cool aplication like Powerplugs, for doing 3D presentations in linux?
[08:55] <crabgrass> !envy
[08:55] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[08:55] <crabgrass> !worksforme
[08:55] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[08:55] <Ix0s> Yeah envy rocks at breaking my machine :)
[08:55] <roryy> TJoad: it's not the behaviour here, and it sounds pretty weird to me
[08:55] <maria> wols_: I've got the card in the slot so how can I make the sytem recognise it ?
[08:55] <wols_> kaostikon1: ps aux |grep apache
[08:55] <roryy> TJoad: did you keep your home directory from your fedora install?
[08:55] <wols_> maria: by installing the driver for your chip
[08:55] <ubuntified> but what do i do the manager identifies my card wrongly
[08:56] <ubuntified> ?
[08:56] <TJoad> roryy - yeah, I didn't format that. I think the install may have hosed some of my .bash files though.
[08:56] <gripner> trying to run wine, but it crashes, running 64bit ubuntu 7.04 and the newest kernel. any idea or sumon who can help me ?
[08:56] <maria> wols_: so how can I get the drivers then ?
[08:56] <Ix0s> #winehq
[08:56] <roryy> TJoad: hrm.  i'd suggest moving all your ~/.bash files out of the way
[08:56] <TJoad> roryy - Well, overwritten rather than hosed.
[08:56] <kaostikon1>  21064  0.0  0.1   2880   760 pts/0    S+   10:55   0:00 grep apache ::::is what i recieved wols_:
[08:56] <roryy> TJoad: ~/.profile too, if it's there
[08:56] <PriceChild> gripner, there is no wine for 64bit
[08:56] <maria> wols_: please
[08:57] <wols_> maria: please what?
[08:57] <wols_> drivers depend on what card or rather chip you have
[08:57] <maria> wols_: how can I get the drivers ?
[08:57] <wols_> best look int the ubuntu forums and documentation to check if it's supported and if so how
[08:57] <Ix0s> maria, What chipset you got?
[08:57] <Ix0s> maria, Ill take a look for you
[08:58] <southafrikanse> I updated my Kernel. But the OLd version still appears on Grub. How can I remove it?
[08:58] <TJoad> roryy - Aha! Halfway there! (Why the hell didn't I try that!?!?) It's not line wrapping but I *can* edit the whole command.
[08:58] <wols_> southafrikanse: apt-get remove the old kernel
[08:58] <kaostikon1> how do i open adept????
[08:58] <roryy> tjoad: that not-line-wrapping is pretty freaky
[08:58] <inuz> thx for no help~
[08:58] <kaostikon1> sudo adept??
[08:58] <brunonoda> you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:58] <brunonoda> and put ### on old kernel
[08:58] <Grummus> southafrikanse, it's a safety feature in case the new kernel is for any reason not compatible with your hardware
[08:59] <TJoad> roryy - There's a set-horizontal-mode flag in bash. Quick google and I'll try that...
[08:59] <Ayabara> anyone know if google plan to release a "real" linux version of picasa?
[08:59] <southafrikanse> Grummus: So I should leave it there for a while is it?
[08:59] <maria> Ix0s: I don't know perhaps via
[08:59] <chowdah> Does anyone know anything about the issue with Feisty and really slow download speeds?
[08:59] <brunonoda> southafrikanse.. but only do this if the new kernel is ok with your system
[08:59] <Grummus> southafrikanse, yes, why not, takes not much space
[08:59] <gripner> trying to run wine, but it crashes, running 64bit ubuntu 7.04 and the newest kernel. any idea or sumon who can help me ?
[08:59] <southafrikanse> Grummus: Ok then
[08:59] <maria> Ix0s: I have to get in my bios to know that do I ?
[08:59] <bdunn> Hello.  I am installing Ubuntu 7.04 Desktop on a Mac Pro with 4 CPUs, 10 Gig RAM, 750 Gig drive.  Any recommendations on going with 64-bit version for this machine?  Thanks.
[09:00] <Ix0s> gripner, Like PriceChild said no wine for 64 bit
[09:00] <southafrikanse> How can I stop the clock when the boot menu to choose starts?
[09:00] <Ix0s> bdunn, Nice specs is all i can say :P
[09:00] <kaostikon1> how do i use adept to purge???
[09:00] <gripner> lx0s, there is a package to install
[09:00] <Ix0s> sudo apt-get --purge remove package
[09:00] <crabgrass> imo 64bit isnt worth it yet
[09:00] <damionh> Hello, I am trying to install java on Ubuntu 7.04 , can anyone help me ? I have downloaded chmod a+x jre-6ul-linux-i586.bin
[09:01] <gripner> might be the 32 bit wine package tho, but still supposed to work
[09:01] <Ix0s> gripner, Ask in #winehq then
[09:01] <edmondt> <damionh just try Add Remove Programs, it works good
[09:01] <Ix0s> damionh, Cant you grab it through synaptic?
[09:01] <TJoad> roryy - Nope, still not line wrapping. I get a '<' character at the left hand side to show me there's stuff off that edge and a corresponding '>' at the other side.
[09:01] <damionh> hmm im an absolute beginner. how would i do either of those ?
[09:02] <brunonoda> southafrikanse.. only move de arrow
[09:02] <edmondt> Click Applications
[09:02] <brunonoda> down or up
[09:02] <edmondt> Add / Remove
[09:02] <roryy> TJoad: hrm. i see a 'horizontal-scroll-mode' option
[09:02] <edmondt> search for the programs you want to install
[09:02] <_lelik1_> i can't write the message in russia what i must do
[09:02] <suesteve> hi any one how you make back ups of nintendo games to rom or flash???
[09:02] <roryy> TJoad: "When set to On, makes readline use a single  line  for  display,"
[09:02] <damionh> yes
[09:02] <TJoad> roryy - Yeah, putting a set in the .bashrc doesn't seem to affect it.
[09:02] <southafrikanse> brunomoda: I want it to be default
[09:03] <crabgrass> is there any way i can bind a command (ex: uname -1) to a key or combination of keys so that when i hit them, the output of that command is entered like text?
[09:03] <roryy> TJoad: do you have an ~/.inputrc file ?
[09:03] <crabgrass> *(ex: uname -a)
[09:03] <damionh> i see two options in the "All available Applications"
[09:03] <_lelik1_> i can't write the message in russia amsn what i must do (ubuntu 6.10)
[09:03] <edmondt> sure select that
[09:03] <TJoad> roryy - Yup. And it's set in there too!
[09:03] <roryy> TJoad: to on or off?
[09:04] <damionh> ok
[09:04] <edmondt> <damionh search for java
[09:04] <TJoad> roryy - On.
[09:04] <Rictoo> Guys, I setup to be able to use smartctl without root in /etc/sudoers, but I still have to enter a pass to use it. I put this in /etc/sudoers: rictoo ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/sbin/smartctl
[09:04] <roryy> TJoad: i think you want it off
[09:04] <TJoad> royy - Oh crap...
[09:04] <TJoad> roryy - Realised as I typed that it was on!
[09:04] <Tom47> damionh since you are so new, when you are through being told how to do java, i suggest you begin by going to System>Help & Support>Adding &Removing Applicatiosn
[09:04] <roryy> TJoad: :-)
[09:04] <damionh> there are java 1.4 plugin for mozilla/firefox and a second one .. java webstart 1.4
[09:04] <flask-> anybody here using smbfs / smbount on ubuntu?
[09:05] <roryy> TJoad: still a bit weird. i take it your Fedora system didn't work like this?
[09:05] <TJoad> roryy - At last! :)
[09:05] <philip> hey i could do with some help mounting my windows hdd in ubuntu 6.06 (cd boot)
[09:05] <damionh> thanks Tom47 , will do
[09:05] <Ubuntu_Joe> when I try to install Diablo II with Wine, I get all the way through the CD Key entering, and I tell i it to install in Program Files, then I select Install, and it just SITS there, you know where the Progress bars re supposed to be showing PROGRESS, Im using Feisty Ubuntu . . . help?
[09:05] <Truth[laptop] > Hi, I'm having trouble installing the proprietary ATI drivers (using their instructions) when I execute the installer it says "Syntax Error: Bad Substitution" can anyone help me up?
[09:05] <tapas> i really don'tknow where to start looking
[09:05] <tapas> but if i enter www.google.com into konqueror i get a "Your client has issued a malformed or illegal request." asnwer from google
[09:06] <TJoad> roryy - No, it was always line wrapping in Fedora. I wonder where that's come from then. I might do a live boot from the Ubuntu cd and take a look at the default bash files.
[09:06] <tapas> it works in every other browser
[09:06] <eliasz> hey guys, i was wondering if there are any driver to get my nvidia 8500 working? there are none on the nvidia site... i though nividia was good for linux...
[09:06] <philip> hey i could do with some help mounting my windows hdd in ubuntu 6.06 (cd boot)
[09:06] <tapas> google.de works, though with konqueror
[09:06] <tapas> it's all very mysterious
[09:06] <Tom47> !nvidia > eliasz
[09:07] <damionh> do you know which java i need to install from the add/remove applications menu ?
[09:07] <jsd789> hello, i have fiesty and just got a security update now it will not boot, but i can boot into .15, any one knows what is going on
[09:08] <sid> I just got a second lcd monitor, I have an ATI 9100, I plugged in both monitors.. but only one works. How can I setup dual monitors in Ubuntu?
[09:08] <eliasz> Tom47, so...my card isnt in the list...therefor it will not work...
[09:08] <laser-> what are the UUID=<..> things in /etc/fstab ?
[09:08] <andreas23> hello ic havea problem with my sound can someone help me?
[09:08] <jsd789> i set up two monitors with an ati card
[09:08] <Tom47> eliasz ok damn nuisance then
[09:09] <eliasz> tom47...why does it only go up to 1024x768....does the OSS driver not support anything higher??
[09:09] <Tylerofl> how does one compile from source?
[09:09] <balachmar> Hi, I'm trying to install Feisty from the alternate install cd, with LVM. But it fails on select and install software
[09:09] <b^j> i'm having an issue getting my install to work, the installer is telling me that "no root file system is defined" can anyone please help me?
[09:09] <sid> Is there a dual monitor guide for ati 9100 card, with "ati" driver from xorg?
[09:09] <Tylerofl> i've googled it and everything that comes up assumes you already know how
[09:09] <sid> Does ubotu know?
[09:09] <Tom47> eliassz sorry i use ati
[09:10] <tapas> jsd789: do you get any error messages?
[09:10] <graveson1> does crontab under fiesty work. I run a command in the terminal window with no problem.the same command (using sudo crontab -e) does nothing.any ideas
[09:10] <eliasz> Anyone know how to get nvidia 8500 working?
[09:10] <GigaClon> Tylerofl, install the build-essential and go to the folder with the code, you should see a make file and others
[09:10] <n2diy> I'm "thinking" about creating a /home partition, and moving all my stuff there. Anybody know a good howto for this?
[09:11] <tapas> n2diy: it's easy
[09:11] <GigaClon> Tylerofl, then you type in a terminal ./configure && make
[09:11] <n2diy> tapas: ok :)
[09:11] <piglit> every time i want to watch tv (afther rebooting) i must do modprobe cx88xx card=12  so the question is: can i put the options for a module in a conf file or something so i wont need to type it everytime i boot ?
[09:11] <b^j> n2diy, create the partition, copy your files, modify your fstab, thats all there is to it
[09:11] <motin> How do I change a dependency of a .deb file? It says:  boxbackup-server depends on libc6 (>= 2.5-5); however:  Version of libc6 on system is 2.5-0ubuntu14.    But I am certain that this is a mistake, since the software is from February 2006
[09:11] <Tom47> b^j i cannot be absolutely certain but i believe this is because there is a problem with the partitioning and set up .... and that it is unable to locate a space tp put the os
[09:11] <tapas> n2diy: create the partition, go to single user mode, move the contents of /home to the new partition
[09:11] <jsd789> the bar doesnt move at all then i go to what looks like a terminal screen
[09:11] <tapas> n2diy: add fstab entry and mount
[09:11] <andreas23> is here someone who can halp me with oss / alsa mixers?
[09:12] <edmondt> has anyone got rndis working on Feisty?
[09:12] <tapas> andreas23: depensd on your quesdtion
[09:12] <jsd789> i can type help  and it gives me a list of ASH commands and i can exit  but it realy doesnt exit  , but ctr al del  reboots
[09:12] <tapas> andreas23: which you haven't asked..
[09:12] <tapas> how should anyone know?
[09:12] <edmondt> when I connect my Pocket PC it gives me ttyUSB1
[09:13] <b^j> Tom47, when i look at the fdisk output the disk looks right, there is plenty of space
[09:13] <andreas23> my sond works sometimesafter starting only when i turn master off and the onlyvery silent
[09:13] <andreas23> sound
[09:13] <Some_Person> i'm trying to use windows mediaa player in wine, but the audio keeps turning to static every once in a while
[09:13] <Some_Person> how can i fix it?
[09:13] <andreas23> and sometimes it seem to play only every second sound
[09:13] <tapas> andreas23: i guess you use ALSA.. try usign alsamixer from the console
[09:13] <b^j> Tom47, also, when i comment out the confirmation lines in my preseed file it works
[09:13] <tapas> it is the one mixer program thatshould work
[09:13] <tapas> andreas23: then go to alsa.opensrc.org and see if you find information specific to your soundcar
[09:14] <Tom47> b^j when you are doing the install are you allocating the pace to / and to swap (as a minimum - i usually have a 3rd partition for /home)
[09:14] <piglit> Some_Person: whay not try mplayer or xmms ?
[09:14] <jsd789> i will be back in a while i will go reboot into it and write down everything on screen and go get the last things that was updated   i told my roommate ton to install them
[09:14] <Tom47> b^j space*
[09:14] <andreas23> tapas it seems like oss is the problem the alsa beep works normmaly
[09:14] <Tylerofl> GigaClon: bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[09:14] <b^j> Tom47, i am using the "Guided - use entire disk" default recipe
[09:15] <netdur> hi people, can anyone check if livejournal.com is accessible or not?
[09:15] <n2diy> Some_Person: that could be a hardware problem, check for bad cables, connections etc...
[09:15] <GigaClon> Tylerofl, is there a configure file there in the directory?
[09:15] <GigaClon> or autogen.sh?
[09:15] <GigaClon> or Makefile
[09:15] <Tom47> b^j i have never used that so cannot speak to it .... usually, being a control freak, i like to tell the computer what to do :)
[09:15] <andreas23> okay alsamixer works
[09:16] <Tylerofl> no
[09:16] <b^j> Tom47, yeah, i am setting up 30 laptops for a class we are teaching and i am going for easy
[09:16] <Tylerofl> GigaClon: just a bunch of misc files, there is also a make file
[09:16] <piglit> b^j:you need to select a partition and call it a root partition did you do that?
[09:16] <Tom47> b^j is "easy" working ;-)
[09:16] <andreas23> but for what shall i seek the drivers seem to be installed proper
[09:16] <netdur> help!
[09:17] <b^j> Tom47, mostly but specifying the recipe in my preseed is more complicated and gets the same error
[09:17] <piglit> netdur: speak and ask your question please
[09:17] <voicu> hi. can someone pls tell me the command that returns the uuids of the drives?
[09:17] <netdur> I can't access livejournal.com using firefox or wget http://sial.org/pbot/25231
[09:18] <voicu> and do usb devices get an uuid?
[09:18] <b^j> piglit, i am using the default recipe, i don't see a rule in the preseed to specify the root partition outside of the partition recipe, am i missing something
[09:18] <frandavid100> hi!
[09:18] <frandavid100> is there a way to disable my touchpad in ubuntu?
[09:19] <antitab> hey guys
[09:19] <antitab> quick support question
[09:19] <motin> frandavid100: install qsynaptic or ksynaptic (or similar)
[09:19] <msikma> Hi. Is there a certain file in /dev that represents my Internet connection?
[09:19] <Tom47> voicu i started with apropos uuid, that gave me 4 possibilities,  i think the one you want is vol_id so type man vol_id and see what you need
[09:19] <frandavid100> thanks motin!
[09:19] <netdur> piglit, am trying to figure what wrong, the whole country (Morocco) can't access that web site!
[09:19] <antitab> I've been cloning my hard drive with dd (gparted) for the last 10 hours
[09:19] <antitab> it's a 60 gig drive
[09:19] <antitab> should it be taking this long?
[09:19] <motin> frandavid100: np
[09:20] <antitab> or should I cancel and try again
[09:20] <frandavid100> motin, any gnome app out there that will do it?
[09:20] <andreas23> ok is here someone who can help me more?
[09:20] <b^j> antitab, what are you cloning it to?
[09:20] <antitab> an external drive
[09:20] <motin> frandavid100: there may be a gsynaptic I really dont know
[09:20] <antitab> USB 2
[09:20] <erisco> I need to do video editing... basically taking scene fragments and making it into a short movie... and I need to add in custom (as in computer-made) graphics to tie it together. What sort of software out there would permit this? I intend to burn it to a DVD after completion.
[09:20] <Meglo> http://lolcode.com/home
[09:20] <motin> erisco: join #ubuntustudio they will help you
[09:20] <antitab> I actually cloned it before with a Mac program and it only took about an hour
[09:20] <antitab> so...
[09:21] <frandavid100> there is gsynaptics but I don't know if it can disable the touchpad
[09:21] <andreas23> how can i deaktivate all oss mixer and activate only the alsa mixer?
[09:21] <b^j> antitab, is you send dd the signal USR1 it will tell you how much it has read and written
[09:21] <b^j> antitab, do both have dma enabled?
[09:21] <antitab> how do I do that :o
[09:21] <voicu> Tom47: well, i need something like a listing of the current drives with their corresponding uuids
[09:21] <antitab> err... I'm not sure
[09:21] <crabgrass> is there any way i can bind a command (ex: uname -a) to a key or combination of keys so that when i hit them, the output of that command is entered like text?
[09:21] <antitab> but like I said
[09:21] <piglit> antitab: try man hdparm and see if DMA is set right
[09:21] <voicu> btw, thanks for telling me about apropos, nice util
[09:22] <antitab> k
[09:22] <balachmar> Has anybody had an install from the alternate CD fail at selecting packages phase?
[09:22] <b^j> antitab, find the process number for dd, then type kill -USR1 <pid>
[09:22] <piglit> b^j when partitioning can you see a root partition ?
[09:23] <balachmar> I have let the CD check itself, so it should be fine...
[09:23] <balachmar> But somehow, I cannot seem to install it. It always fails at the package selection and installation
[09:23] <vangelis> hi all
[09:23] <Pawba> hm
[09:23] <pppktz> hi all
[09:23] <pppktz> could someone help me with beryl?
[09:23] <Pawba> Why can I never remember the channel name for Ubuntu+Beryl ?
[09:23] <n2diy> Crabgrass: yes, add an alias in your .bashrc file,
[09:24] <LjL> !beryl > pppktz    (pppktz, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:24] <balachmar> It is quite annoying, because I have to use the alternate cd in order to get lvm to work
[09:24] <piglit> every time i want to watch tv (afther rebooting) i must do modprobe cx88xx card=12  so the question is: can i put the options for a module in a conf file or something so i wont need to type it everytime i boot ?
[09:24] <vangelis> does someone know if it's possible to bind and action with a gnome dismounting event for example
[09:25] <naknak987> I need to reformat a hard disk, It is a external one, I can figure out how. Could someone help me out?
[09:25] <Pawba> naknak: mkfs -t <fstype> /dev/<drive>
[09:26] <narcissist> i can't boot on my ubuntu hdd after installing. "grub error 21". could it be some raid functionality on my mother board that's making it not work?
[09:26] <b^j> piglit, i think i figured it out, my ide disk is showing up as sda for some reason and the correct disk isn't being specified in my preseed
[09:26] <stefg> narcissist: that's very likely
[09:26] <antitab> ah... I did kill -USR1, but I guess it must print the info to the terminal
[09:26] <naknak987> Pawba: is that exactly what i type or is there something i need to fill in.
[09:26] <antitab> dd is running through gparted
[09:26] <b^j> antitab, ahh, that would be an issue
[09:26] <narcissist> stefg: how do i get around it? haven't got other ide-slots
[09:27] <Pawba> naknak: You need to fill in the stuff between <>..  For example, mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sda3
[09:27] <dredhammer> hello can anyone tell me the name of the OpenGl development library in synaptic?
[09:27] <graveson1> does crontab under fiesty work. I run a command in the terminal window with no problem.the same command (using sudo crontab -e) does nothing.any ideas
[09:27] <antitab> it's a fast computer, too
[09:27] <antitab> 2ghz Core Duo
[09:27] <kbrooks> hi. um, need to  share my printer over network.
[09:27] <antitab> I'm pretty sure it shouldn't bet aking this long
[09:27] <b^j> antitab, you are going to be bound by write speed on any modern system
[09:28] <naknak987> Pawba: were could I find the info for what to put in that place.
[09:28] <antitab> oh yeah, true
[09:28] <b^j> antitab, did you check the dma status of the drives?
[09:28] <antitab> I can't seem to get hdparm to show that info
[09:28] <LjL> !printing > kbrooks    (kbrooks, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:28] <antitab> I'm not a n00b, I swear x_x
[09:29] <m1ce> can anyone recommend good hdparm -B values for a laptop?
[09:29] <Rawplayer> hi, when i run beryl i can only get a max resolution for 800x600 but when i wont run beryl i can get 1280x1024
[09:29] <Rawplayer> why is that?
[09:30] <antitab> hdparm -d just outputs the drive name and nothing else
[09:30] <Timbo> so, when i hover the mouse over the applications menu, i get a little tooltip telling me what it is
[09:31] <Timbo> this is beginning to annoy me
[09:31] <Timbo> where is the setting to turn it odd
[09:31] <Timbo> er off
[09:31] <m1ce> i wanted hdparm -B, that controls the advanced power mangagement
[09:31] <Pawba> naknak: man mkfs
[09:31] <Timbo> or gconf key?
[09:31] <antitab> I think I'm just going to cancel :|
[09:31] <antitab> try something else to clone the drive
[09:31] <ZeroA4> antitab, hdparm is for IDE HDs... it can not set anything on a SATA or SCSI
[09:32] <riaal> anyone using sbackup?
[09:32] <antitab> these are IDE
[09:32] <antitab> well
[09:32] <antitab> oh
[09:32] <antitab> the one is IDE
[09:32] <antitab> the other is SATA
[09:32] <LjL> !enter
[09:32] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:32] <b^j> antitab, if you us dcfldd it will print how many blocks it has copied while it is running
[09:33] <Ropechoborra> Hi, i got a problem with Ubuntu Server Festy. I installed it on a Pentium II with 2GB of disk and low ram (guess 64). When i try to boot, after selecting the kernel in Grub, it says "Starting..." and the system restarts. Any idea what could it be?
[09:33] <b^j> antitab, i usually use dcfldd as i can hash the drive as it is going for forensics purposes
[09:34] <b^j> Ropechoborra, bad ram maybe, have you run memtest86+?
[09:35] <py_geek> what is mozilla's installation directory?
[09:35] <b^j> Ropechoborra, could be power issues possibly, really hard to say
[09:35] <Ropechoborra> b^j No, i'll try that. But before installing ubuntu it had runing win98
[09:35] <jcs> can anybody tell me how to enable a non-UTF8 locale?
[09:35] <Timbo> apps -> panel -> global -> tooltips_enabled, FWIW
[09:36] <b^j> Ropechoborra, yeah, it may not have used that area of memory for important things, i have seen odd issues like that
[09:36] <py_geek> bruenig: u there?
[09:36] <Krazy> reinstalled ubuntu and upon reboot i don;t get the option to boot to either ubuntu or xp. All i get is grub>. what do i do?
[09:36] <erUSUL> jcs: try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' and 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure localeconf'
[09:36] <naknak987> Pawba: is there a easier way to do that, I'm lost doing it that way. I'm kinda a noob.
[09:36] <py_geek> ALL: does anyone know what directory Mozilla Firefox is in?
[09:37] <Ropechoborra> Krazy reinstall grub and configure it for the ubuntu and win partitions
[09:37] <SgtFox> Hey guys, I'm in need of a bit of help if anyone could spare a few mins - I'm stuck on a Ubuntu LiveCD after installing it screwed my mbr
[09:37] <Ropechoborra> b^j So, I wont be able to use it if i dont change the ram?
[09:37] <Krazy> but i can't get past grub>
[09:38] <Ropechoborra> Use the live cd
[09:38] <b^j> Ropechoborra, no clue, that may not even be the issue, just hazarding a guess
[09:38] <jcs> py_geek: do a "dpkg -L firefox" to get a list of files in the package
[09:38] <stefg> jcs: http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-locales
[09:38] <SgtFox> if anyone could tell me how to use root permissions on a LiveCD, or fixmbr my vista installation I'd be massively grateful
[09:38] <Ropechoborra> b^j Ok, Later i'll post it in the forums
[09:39] <b^j> Ropechoborra, good luck!
[09:39] <Ropechoborra> SgtFox When you boot with a live cd, you got root access to the hole system, just mount the partition you want and work with it
[09:39] <a5benwillis> can anyone tell me how to burn a dvd image when It keeps telling me that theres not enough space?
[09:39] <Krazy> where is the option to reinstall grub on the live cd?
[09:39] <stefg> SgtFox: sudo works on the Live CD, too (without asking for a password)
[09:39] <kishan> Sgtfox what is wrong with your mbr what is the error
[09:39] <Ropechoborra> adam0509 Krec ?
[09:39] <SgtFox> well, it gives me Error 17
[09:39] <stefg> !grub
[09:39] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:40] <adam0509> Ropechoborra, => ?
[09:40] <JeevesMoss> does anyone know the URL for the min install CD?
[09:40] <SgtFox> I'm a massive Linux n00b, despite being good with Windows, so sudo / mounting installations is a bit foreign to me
[09:40] <richiefrich> .
[09:40] <naknak987> can someone tell me a easy way to reformat a external hard drive
[09:40] <antitab> hmm alright
[09:40] <richiefrich> naknak987: cfdisk
[09:40] <antitab> gonna try dcfldd
[09:40] <kishan> Sgtfox: how did u partition the hard drive
[09:41] <SgtFox> I've given Ubuntu its own hard drive
[09:41] <richiefrich> naknak987: then just mkfs.ext3
[09:41] <SgtFox> Vista has the main HDD
[09:41] <richiefrich> naknak987: to see what HDD it is -> sudo fdisk -l
[09:41] <Ropechoborra> adam0509 i didnt get what did you want to do... just burn? use krec or something like that
[09:41] <kishan> GRUB Error 17 indicates that it can see the partition, but it can't recognize the filesystem type. Perhaps your root(x,y) settings are incorrect
[09:41] <stefg> SgtFox: http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=grub+error+17&btnG=Google+Search
[09:42] <adam0509> Ropechoborra, I didn't speak a word on this channel... do I ?
[09:42] <SgtFox> I think you're right kishan, but I can't change them from the LiveCD
[09:42] <richiefrich> SgtFox: what cant you change ?
[09:42] <SgtFox> menu.lst in the grub folder
[09:42] <_Matilda_> Bonjour tout le monde! How is everyone? Im trying to set up Wireless on Linux, can i use "wifi radar" to do it for me automatically?
[09:43] <richiefrich> SgtFox: yeah you can
[09:43] <Ropechoborra> adam0509 guess it was a TAB problem :$
[09:43] <adam0509> So do I
[09:43] <richiefrich> SgtFox: why couldnt you edit that from a liveCD ?
[09:43] <kishan> Sgtfox: try editing from live cd
[09:44] <SgtFox> it says that I don't have the permissions to edit the file
[09:44] <richiefrich> SgtFox: become root!
[09:44] <richiefrich> su -
[09:44] <kaostikon1> ok i just downloaded adept manager how do i get root priv. to access
[09:44] <SgtFox> how do I become root?
[09:44] <richiefrich> su -
[09:44] <andersbr> question about the rename command-line util:  In the first half of the perl expression, you can use () and store the matched section.  How do you reference it in the second half?  s/first_half(x|y)/second_half/
[09:44] <hinesd> hello, I first setup ubuntu from a live cd then installed xp, now xp made my linux grub disapear(inactive?) so  i tried to reinstall it using the commands from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 and now it jsut sayes error 16 every time i boot up.
[09:44] <Ropechoborra> kaostikon1 type sudo and the command, or sudo su to become root
[09:44] <SgtFox> sorry to inflict my noobness on you, but where do I input su-
[09:44] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[09:45] <richiefrich> SgtFox: not su-  su -
[09:45] <Ropechoborra> hinesd yeap, its a problem of windows, it just destroys your mbr =/, reinstall grub
[09:45] <Ropechoborra> !grub
[09:45] <richiefrich> SgtFox: open a terminal
[09:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:45] <kishan> Sgtfox application --aceesories---terminal when u log into live cd
[09:45] <kaostikon1> ok it says root but when i open the program still say no access
[09:46] <rysiek|pl> anybody knows how to permamently disable xinerama? in xorg.conf, in Section "ServerFlags" I have Option "Xinerama" "false", but in Xorg.0.log I get both: '(**) Option "Xinerama" "false"' and '(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA'
[09:46] <SgtFox> ok, done that but it's asking for a password
[09:46] <SgtFox> is there a default?
[09:46] <richiefrich> SgtFox: press enter
[09:46] <richiefrich> SgtFox: should let you in
[09:46] <kaostikon1> how do i open adept manager in terminal
[09:46] <kishan> Sgtfox: are u in live cd now then just press enter
[09:46] <SgtFox> It says 'Authentication failure'
[09:47] <richiefrich> then get knoppix for a liveCd
[09:47] <richiefrich> or finnix
[09:47] <Ropechoborra> grrr Im lost... try to write in a single line :)
[09:47] <tixxtaxx> SgtFox: try typing sudo bash
[09:47] <kishan> Sgtfox: try ubuntu
[09:47] <graveson1> does crontab under fiesty work. I run a command in the terminal window with no problem.the same command (using sudo crontab -e) does nothing.any ideas
[09:47] <_lelik1_> anyone use sattellite internet from tehnisat skystar2?\
[09:47] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: wont ask for password
[09:47] <richiefrich> graveson1: why not just edit /etc/crontab
[09:48] <_Matilda_> anyone know if i can set up wireless internet from "wif-radar"?
[09:48] <kaostikon1> how do i run adept manager in terminal
[09:48] <richiefrich> kaostikon1: apt-get ?
[09:48] <ryan____> Hey you guys. Installed a cli of ubuntu, then installed xserver and fluxbox on top of it. When I try to open Network Manager Gnome, which I need for my wifi, with the command "nm-applet", it gives me this pop-up error:
[09:48] <thekidrio> adept is a graphical proggie, do you need it to stay in the terminal?
[09:48] <Ropechoborra> kaostikon1 adept manager? i dont think it has a text-mode version
[09:48] <ryan____> "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources. It cannot continue."
[09:48] <m1ce> on my machine, avahi-daemon is always using nearly 100% of my cpu, i can kill it and everything is fine.  but to uninstall it it says it will also uninstall ubuntu-desktop.  any help?
[09:48] <SgtFox> tixxtaxx, that changed it to root@ubuntu from ubuntu@ubuntu
[09:48] <richiefrich> SgtFox: good good
[09:48] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: good
[09:48] <thekidrio> gksudo adept_installer &
[09:48] <richiefrich> SgtFox: now edit the file
[09:48] <deus> I got a problem
[09:49] <deus> my 100 MB large boot partition is fukk
[09:49] <deus> full
[09:49] <kaostikon1> no i downloaded a program called "adept manager" even though i logged in as root on terminal when i run the app i still get the message need to be "ROOT"
[09:49] <ryan____> I tried doing the gtk-update-icon-cache thing, but that doesn't work.
[09:49] <Thomas[NL] > Is there a way to let nautilus show the real names of ".desktop" files?
[09:49] <SgtFox> still won't let me edit it
[09:49] <jcs> stefg: thanks for tip, managed it with "sudo locale-gen fr_FR@euro"
[09:49] <deus> how should i go on about clearing up space without messing up settings?
[09:49] <richiefrich> deus: ok make a new partition and then rsync them then umount the current one and then mount the new one
[09:49] <thekidrio> kaostikon1, type gksudo or kdesudo before opening it
[09:49] <Ropechoborra> hinesd Have you tryed grub-install --recheck --no-floppy --root-directory=/media/hdxx /dev/hda
[09:49] <Ropechoborra> ?
[09:49] <kaostikon1> ok
[09:50] <Ropechoborra> hinesd modify the hdxx with you hd partition
[09:50] <graveson1> hmmm, i was under the impression it must be done via the command crontab -e.ok i will try that
[09:50] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox how about trying to type: gksudo gedit /full/path/to/file/to/edit ?
[09:50] <ryan____> Hey you guys. Installed a cli of ubuntu, then installed xserver and fluxbox on top of it. When I try to open Network Manager Gnome, which I need for my wifi, with the command "nm-applet", it gives me this pop-up error:
[09:50] <ryan____> "The NetworkManager applet could not find some required resources. It cannot continue."
[09:50] <ryan____> Hey you guys. Installed a cli of ubuntu, then installed xserver and fluxbox on top of it. When I try to open Network Manager Gnome, which I need for my wifi, with the command "nm-applet", it gives me this pop-up error:
[09:50] <kaostikon1> nada
[09:50] <ryan____> ack.
[09:50] <ryan____> My bad
[09:50] <SgtFox> thanks tixxtaxx, will give it a go
[09:50] <_Matilda_> anyone know if i can set up wireless internet from "wif-radar"?
[09:50] <INEEDHELP_> What can I use to tune my TV card? (it has a Bt878 chip)
[09:51] <ryan____> Matilda: You can, but it doesn't currently support WPA
[09:51] <richiefrich> !wifi | _Matilda_
[09:51] <ubotu> _Matilda_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:51] <kaostikon1> grrrrrrrrrrr
[09:51] <_Matilda_> ty
[09:51] <richiefrich> np
[09:51] <_Matilda_> !wifi?
[09:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wifi? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:51] <SgtFox> gksudo gedit /full/path/to/file/to/
[09:51] <richiefrich> !tv
[09:51] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[09:51] <SgtFox> oops
[09:51] <kaostikon1> does any one else have adept manager???? and know how to use it
[09:52] <_Matilda_> ^oh
[09:52] <mathias_> hi all trying to install firefox32 on a amd 64 and got this error when stratin the binary
[09:52] <ryan____> !wifi
[09:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:52] <richiefrich> !tv | INEEDHELP_
[09:52] <ubotu> INEEDHELP_: please see above
[09:52] <SgtFox> (gksudo:13010): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[09:52] <mathias_> Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[09:52] <mathias_>         Using the fallback 'C' locale.
[09:52] <thekidrio> kaostikon1, we all do it comes with all installs of ubuntu
[09:52] <antitab> okay cool. dcfldd looks good
[09:52] <INEEDHELP_> please see above?
[09:52] <antitab> thanks for the suggestion
[09:52] <richiefrich> INEEDHELP_: http://www.linuxtv.org/
[09:52] <INEEDHELP_> ok thanks
[09:52] <Skiff> guys is it better not to have kde and gnome on the same machine ?
[09:53] <richiefrich> INEEDHELP_: yeah a cupple lines up it has more info
[09:53] <Ropechoborra> Skiff I think its the same
[09:53] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: the try on the text mode editor, type: nano -w /path/to/file
[09:53] <kaostikon1> ok... thekidrio: i downloaded a graphic version and when i open it, it say need to be root, i have a terminal open and still same message how can i run the program logged in as root
[09:53] <mogul> could somebody pass a link to the ubuntu presentaiton videos?
[09:53] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: on the terminal where you are root@ubuntu
[09:53] <INEEDHELP_> but its not a digital tv card
[09:53] <Ropechoborra> kaostikon1 run it from a terminal with sudo
[09:53] <INEEDHELP_> its analog
[09:54] <deus> richiefrich: well, does ubuntu store former kernels?
[09:54] <deus> cant i just remove the old ones?
[09:54] <richiefrich> deus: sure if you want
[09:54] <ubuntu_> alguien puede ayudarme a instalar ubuntu 5.10 en un dusco duro externo?
[09:54] <richiefrich> deus: should be in /boot
[09:54] <colbert> How can I edit a gtk theme, I have one that is too dark I love it but want to lighten the grey of it, how do you do this ???
[09:54] <deus> richiefrich: the former kernels arent in boot
[09:54] <ZeroA4> !es | ubuntu_
[09:54] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:54] <Ropechoborra> ubuntu_ #ubuntu-es
[09:55] <deus> oh yeah that
[09:55] <kaostikon1> sudo what?
[09:55] <thekidrio> kaostikon1, and when you try to open the downloaded adept_manager in a terminal what is the command you use?
[09:55] <richiefrich> deus: whats in your /boot then >?
[09:55] <deus> well i tried to delete everything that refered to one version of the kernel
[09:55] <deus> richiefrich: however it was filled up after aptitude
[09:55] <thekidrio> kaostikon1, it would be gksudo adept_manager or kdesudo adept_manager or sudo adept_manager
[09:55] <richiefrich> deus: what about aptitude ?
[09:56] <kaostikon1> got it
[09:56] <Ropechoborra> deus Its better to do that from apt, like apt-get remove kernelversion
[09:56] <kaostikon1> thank you guys
[09:56] <richiefrich> deus: how would that file your /boot ?
[09:56] <SgtFox> ok tixxtaxx, that worked, how do I save the file once I've edited it
[09:56] <SgtFox> ?
[09:56] <rysiek|pl> guys, how to tell xorg to rotate a given screen using the RandR extension?
[09:56] <deus> how can i find out what versions i have, i use aptitude
[09:56] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: ctrl+o ?
[09:56] <SgtFox> thanks v.much for your help so far btw
[09:56] <Ropechoborra> SgtFox Ctrl + o
[09:56] <richiefrich> SgtFox: from nano .. Ctrl + X then Y
[09:56] <kErosEnE> Hi, i have a little problem, when I try to open some aplication the terminal throw me this error:  Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[09:57] <DallasG> ctrl+x, y, enter
[09:57] <deus> richiefrich: well im not sure bit everytime i try to use aptitude it says it tries something with boot
[09:57] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: and ctrl+x to exit nano
[09:57] <aleka> I just up a postfix mailserver with SSL auth as outlined on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix.  However, when I TELNET into my localhost 25 I am getting a welcome screen with Exim version 4. I don't recall ever installing exim .
[09:57] <kErosEnE> any idea?
[09:57] <INEEDHELP_> thats odd
[09:57] <deyan> kErosEnE: it's not a little problem, it's a big one.
[09:57] <INEEDHELP_> XawTV makes my screen black out
[09:57] <INEEDHELP_> but
[09:57] <kErosEnE> what I can do?
[09:57] <INEEDHELP_> if I press print screen
[09:57] <Krazy> had to reboot at grub>, now bios wont find drive with ubuntu on it. reboot to live cd, install unbuntu choice then it goes to Busy Box v 1.1.3 /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off???
[09:57] <INEEDHELP_> the program is still there when I open the screenshot
[09:57] <blackjackel> What is the best way to execute a command in console (a sudo command) upon login?
[09:57] <SgtFox> ok, I edited menu.lst to make the bootloader hidden - will that allow me to boot into my Vista installation, do you think?
[09:57] <deyan> kErosEnE: What's the application?
[09:57] <richiefrich> deus: oO
[09:57] <seiflotfy> hi guys
[09:58] <kErosEnE> all the video aplications for example
[09:58] <deyan> seiflotfy: Hi there
[09:58] <seiflotfy> i have a problem: my mic doenst wokr at all
[09:58] <kErosEnE> and the printer manager
[09:58] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: dont think so
[09:58] <richiefrich> deus: all i can see it doing is installing a new kernel
[09:58] <deyan> kErosEnE: I guess you have something wrong with libs.
[09:58] <SgtFox> arf
[09:58] <seiflotfy> it works under windows
[09:58] <deus> richiefrich: i just did
[09:58] <richiefrich> deus: shouldnt be more then 2MB
[09:58] <kErosEnE> I can figure out what library are causing the problem?
[09:58] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: why cant you boot windows?
[09:58] <deus> upgraded to feisty just now
[09:58] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: get any errors?
[09:58] <deus> i assume a new kernel came with that
[09:58] <deyan> maybe differenct version of libs which not compitable to each other.
[09:58] <SgtFox> yep, I get Error 17
[09:58] <deyan> use strace or gdb
[09:59] <hinesd> I got error 16
[09:59] <deus> richiefrich: arent there a program that sets up boot?
[09:59] <deus> richiefrich: so then i can just delete everything
[09:59] <richiefrich> deus: i do mine by hand
[09:59] <deus> and run that
[09:59] <hinesd> I think i for the problem
[09:59] <aleka> is there any room where I can ask mailserv/postfix related questions then?
[09:59] <hinesd> root (hd0,3)
[09:59] <uwel> hy all
[09:59] <SgtFox> when I installed Ubuntu from the LiveCD, my Vista HDD was the main HDD as far as the bios was concerned
[09:59] <richiefrich> deus: whats in your /boot ?
[09:59] <SgtFox> which confused it, I think
[09:59] <uwel> VALAKI BESZL MAGYARUL?
[09:59] <ozzicle> Anyone have any ideas on a twinview setup that lets me maximize certain programs across both monitors as opposed to just the monitor the window is located on? I want vmware player to maximize the guest OS across both but it only goes across one :/
[09:59] <deus> richiefrich: i will poste a pastbin
[10:00] <richiefrich> deus: ok .. ls -R /boot
[10:00] <hinesd> mine sayes  when i type setup (hd0,0) it sayes it finds stage 1 but not stage 2
[10:00] <seiflotfy> hi i have a problem with ubuntu: i can hear my voice and everythign but i cant record anything
[10:00] <richiefrich> seiflotfy: what are you trying to record it in
[10:01] <seiflotfy> sound recorder
[10:01] <rancidlm> hey all, i just installed the latest up dates for the 2.6.20-16 kernel now when my system loads it get stuck at the begining of the loading screen when i check the consol it say's "reading files needed to boot"  but when i use 1.6.20-15 every thing works fine? why is the latest update broken?
[10:01] <tannerld> does ubuntu use ntfs or ext3?
[10:01] <seiflotfy> richiefrich: soundrecorder
[10:01] <uwel> HAH VALAKI EGY KIS MAGYAR :D
[10:01] <deus> richiefrich: http://pastebin.4programmers.net/2303
[10:01] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: you are saying that grub numbered your discs in one way from the live cd, and another way when trying to boot?
[10:01] <richiefrich> seiflotfy:  use audacity
[10:01] <tidrion> what is the lightest ubuntu for ppc?
[10:01] <aoirthoir> tannerld, it can read both. Native would be ext3.
[10:01] <SgtFox> yep, I think that's what's happened tixxtaxx
[10:01] <nuu> aleka: ls /etc/init.d/ | grep exim
[10:02] <Willow> I don't know how to work this
[10:02] <richiefrich> seiflotfy: make sure your mic is set to /dev/dsp
[10:02] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: that exact thing happened to me day before yesterday :)
[10:02] <seiflotfy> hmmmmmmmmmm
[10:02] <seiflotfy> you meann oss shoudl handle it
[10:02] <SgtFox> it's a pain in the ass ;)
[10:02] <richiefrich> deus: uname -r
[10:02] <richiefrich> deus: whats that say ?
[10:02] <Willow> no s como funciona esto
[10:02] <EADG> ozzicle: I can grap the edge of a program window and stretch across both monitors, however, I don't have vmware to try that.
[10:02] <aoirthoir> tannerld, Linux support for NTFS writing has been experimental for a long time. But its finally coming into accepted use by some. Myself I wouldnt use it. In addition if you preferred NTFS over ext3 you lose some of the benefits common to unix file systems.
[10:02] <Moduliz0r> Argh, all I want to do is play my Xbox with my PC being the screen
[10:02] <Moduliz0r> but I can't!!!
[10:03] <ozzicle> EADG, well I actually want it to maximize, because I can stretch it across both as well, but it won't go fullscreen
[10:03] <richiefrich> deus: ?
[10:03] <ozzicle> I'll still have borders and such
[10:03] <deus> richiefrich: r
[10:03] <richiefrich> deus: ?
[10:03] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: yes, very much so.. to figure out how grub numbers your disks at boot time.. reboot.. and when you get to the boot menu, select your windows menu alternative, and press e
[10:03] <deus> Linux deus 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 06:17:24 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[10:03] <richiefrich> deus: ok then del all but that ver
[10:03] <ozzicle> EADG, when you maximize vmware, it kills all the bars and windows decorations and makes it look like the guest OS is all that's running
[10:03] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: e as in edit, which will allow you to change the settings "on the fly"
[10:04] <deus> richiefrich: yeah, i can see that, but you must understand my reluctansy
[10:04] <Moduliz0r> whenever I go to Zapping's preferences the whole program closes
[10:04] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: try playing around with the line that says on what disc/partition your windows live
[10:04] <SgtFox> yup, I'm not sure it gives me any boot menu though
[10:04] <SgtFox> just says it's loading Grub stage 1.5 and then gives me the error
[10:04] <EADG> ozzicle: Ahh, I see. Sorry outta ideas :/
[10:04] <ozzicle> Yeah :(
[10:04] <richiefrich> deus: so .. cd /boot ; sudo rm -f config-2.6.1?* abi-2.6.1?* initrd.img-2.6.1?* System.map-2.6.1?*  vmlinuz-2.6.1?*
[10:04] <ozzicle> Crummy problem
[10:05] <richiefrich> deus: whats that  ?
[10:05] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: hidden does hide the menu, no?
[10:05] <richiefrich> deus: does the kernel you are on now boot ?
[10:05] <rancidlm> sgtfox: is ur system just not loading up properly?
[10:05] <deus> hmm?
[10:05] <richiefrich> deus: if you[ can safely reboot .. then you are fine
[10:05] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: error 17 is on stage 2 according to grub docs
[10:05] <SgtFox> I think it was un-hidden before
[10:05] <wjlroe> Does anyone know how to pin an architecture for a package? (I need to make sure certain packages are 32bit while the rest are 64)...
[10:05] <richiefrich> deus: you dont need them older kernels
[10:05] <SgtFox> well, stage 2 is the last stage it gets to :)
[10:05] <deus> richiefrich: lets hope so
[10:06] <richiefrich> deus: why would you ?
[10:06] <mojonixon> dapper preseed install hanging during "Select and install software" anyone seen this?
[10:06] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: try pressing escape as soon as grub appears, does that get you the menu?
[10:06] <SgtFox> well, its setting was '#hidden'
[10:06] <hinesd> my grub install says stage  2 not found how do i fix?
[10:06] <deus> richiefrich: why would i what?
[10:06] <richiefrich> deus: need those old kernels ?
[10:06] <hinesd> grub> root (hd0,0)
[10:06] <hinesd> grub> setup (hd0,0)
[10:06] <hinesd>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
[10:06] <hinesd>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... no
[10:06] <hinesd> Error 25: Disk read error
[10:07] <richiefrich> deus: if the one your one now boots!
[10:07] <rancidlm> hey all, i just installed the latest up dates for the 2.6.20-16 kernel now my system Won't boot into linux,  i check the consol it say's "reading files needed to boot"  but when i use 2.6.20-15 every thing works fine? why is the latest update Broken?
[10:07] <SgtFox> I'm speaking from the stricken PC, so I'll have to reboot to find out tixxtaxx
[10:07] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: if you cant open the grub menu at boot, i have no idea how to figure out the correct mapping of your discs
[10:07] <richiefrich> hinesd: it is only setup (hd0)
[10:07] <deus> richiefrich: i dont
[10:07] <soho> which external modem is working in feisty out-of-the-box?
[10:07] <richiefrich> hinesd: try again
[10:07] <soho> which external modem is working in feisty out-of-the-box?
[10:07] <deus> richiefrich: the settings remained
[10:07] <hinesd> that what again ritchie?
[10:07] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: good luck, ill be here for a while more :)
[10:07] <hinesd> the setup?
[10:07] <Unievo> rancidlm: mine works fine
[10:08] <richiefrich> hinesd:  -> root (hd0,0) ... setup (hd0)     .. exit
[10:08] <SgtFox> thanks tixxtaxx - you've been very helpful
[10:08] <richiefrich> hinesd: not  setup (hd0,0)  <- no
[10:08] <twister> dir
[10:08] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox :)
[10:08] <hinesd> trying now
[10:08] <deus> can anybody tell me whats the point of the score system, in aptitude?
[10:08] <ziggy23> I would like to remove Mplayer and reinstall Totem for testing purposes.  How do I remove Mplayer and install Totem cleanly?
[10:08] <richiefrich> hinesd: if not then you have HDD error .. let me google to see what Error 25 is
[10:08] <rancidlm> Unievo: my 2.6.20-15 works fine.. but now it won't boot after the kernel updated that the update manager did last night
[10:09] <PriceChild> deus, it works that out to suggest to you what it thinks is the best choice first
[10:09] <PriceChild> deus, notice if you press no it'll give you something with a lower score
[10:09] <hinesd> it's error 25 for when i try to reinstall grub
[10:09] <hinesd> error 16 when i try to boot
[10:10] <sid> my xorg.conf : http://rafb.net/p/Jnt3OI25.html
[10:10] <sid> Both my monitors show the same thing, and I don't know if my big monitor is the right resolution. How can I make it so I can movie applications from the left to right and vise versa, so they're not the same.
[10:10] <hinesd> yup it's the same error ritchie when using hd0 instead of hd0,0
[10:10] <sid> s/movie/move/
[10:10] <newb_prog> I want to buy a device like a wacom tablet; but I want it to be linux compatbiel ... suggestions?
[10:10] <richiefrich> hinesd: reinstall grub
[10:10] <PriceChild> newb_prog, try it out at the time you buy it
[10:10] <err0r> can someone point me to a ubuntu binary depository so i can download gnome-ppp binary installer all i can find is the source and it says my c compiler cant compile and i cant use inet on ubuntu till i have gnome-ppp
[10:10] <PriceChild> newb_prog, live disks are made for it ;)
[10:10] <richiefrich> hinesd: i mean apt-get install grub
[10:11] <mastercactapus> i updated to the -16 kernel from update manager and now i get the "your session has lasted less than ten seconds" error
[10:11] <ziggy23> I would like to remove Mplayer and reinstall Totem for testing purposes.  How do I remove Mplayer and install Totem cleanly?
[10:11] <Balshoy> how do I stop the broadcast from changing when I restart ubuntu?
[10:11] <richiefrich> hinesd: according to what im reading your grub didnt install righrt
[10:11] <hinesd> ritchiefritch it sayes apt-get install grub
[10:11] <hinesd> oops
[10:11] <hinesd> i mean
[10:11] <KromiX> Hey Guys question about RAID1. I have a Main HD with NTFS (winXP)..   My Second HD has my current Ubuntu installation. each HD has its own O.S.  I want to format the main drive (the xp one) and set-up a RAID1 mirror with my current ubuntu install. Afterwhich I want to have a smalll partition to have Windows XP installed on. Is this possible?
[10:11] <hinesd> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[10:11] <hinesd> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[10:11] <richiefrich> hinesd: sudo
[10:11] <hinesd> oh
[10:11] <hinesd> haha
[10:11] <richiefrich> hinesd: i mean sudo apt-get install grub
[10:12] <richiefrich> hinesd: i dont like sudo i dont use it
[10:12] <richiefrich> :)
[10:12] <blackjackel> Does anyone know a way to execute a sudo command into the terminal upon login to ubuntu?
[10:12] <hinesd> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install grub
[10:12] <hinesd> Reading package lists... Done
[10:12] <hinesd> Building dependency tree
[10:12] <hinesd> Reading state information... Done
[10:12] <hinesd> grub is already the newest version.
[10:12] <hinesd> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:12] <swooney> hey guys, how would i go about mounting a bin/cue as a drive?
[10:12] <hinesd> so i think it didin't reinstall
[10:12] <CheshireViking> where is the file that contains the wireless network essid etc that its supposed to connect to?
[10:12] <richiefrich> hinesd: force it
[10:12] <err0r> any websites i can download binary installer for ubuntu
[10:12] <mastercactapus> Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded"
[10:12] <mastercactapus> Initializing gnome-mount extension
[10:12] <mastercactapus> (process:6868): Gnome-CRITICAL **: gnome_program_module_register: assertion `module_info' failed
[10:12] <mastercactapus> (gnome-power-manager:6869): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[10:12] <hinesd> how to forcee?
[10:12] <richiefrich> hinesd: i think there is a --force
[10:12] <mastercactapus> IO error occured opening connection.
[10:12] <richiefrich> hinesd: if not uninstall it
[10:13] <richiefrich> hinesd: then reinstall it
[10:13] <hinesd> really?
[10:13] <hinesd> how to uninstall?
[10:13] <richiefrich> hinesd: yeah
[10:13] <richiefrich> apt-get --help ?
[10:13] <richiefrich> then look idk sorry
[10:13] <otero> how can I get ubuntu to work on wireless?
[10:13] <richiefrich> !wifi | otero
[10:13] <ubotu> otero: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:13] <d2812> I just killed off my ntfs partition and extended my ext3 one, now I seem to have gained an extra CD Drive. Any ideas?
[10:14] <stefg> swooney: http://cdemu.sourceforge.net/
[10:14] <swooney> thank you sir
[10:14] <tixxtaxx> hinesd: apt-get --reinstall
[10:14] <richiefrich> hinesd: sudo apt-get remove grub
[10:14] <richiefrich> hinesd: sudo apt-get remove grub && sudo apt-get install grub
[10:14] <mastercactapus> can anyone help me with gnome session manager problems?
[10:15] <ufoeraser> guys how can i remove an installed themes
[10:15] <dontcho--> ufoeraser systems->preferences->themes
[10:15] <killux> audacity doesnt recognize my sound card but ubuntu does
[10:16] <richiefrich> hinesd: then again  ->sudo  grub ->  root (hd0,0) ... setup (hd0)     .. exit
[10:16] <hinesd> ritchiefritch it worked it uninstalled then reinstalled
[10:16] <Moduliz0r> Ubuntu is starting to irritate me now
[10:16] <Moduliz0r> Well
[10:16] <Moduliz0r> it isnt
[10:16] <mogul> I installed gnome on ubuntu from the repository using gnome-desktop, and I do the same with xfce4 and enlightenment. Now I see gtk applications black. So I can't read the text even. The only thing I can see is buttons.
[10:16] <richiefrich> hinesd: now redo .. grub . . ;)
[10:16] <Moduliz0r> but some of the programs it has are
[10:16] <soho> which external modem is working in feisty out-of-the-box?
[10:16] <richiefrich> hinesd: im reading from this page - > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117271&highlight=grub+error+25
[10:16] <Moduliz0r> When I hit close on gxine setup wizard, the whole program goes away
[10:16] <ufoeraser> dontcho: system---preferences---themes
[10:17] <bur[n] er> mogul: ubuntu-desktop would be a better package
[10:17] <killux> anyone?
[10:17] <ufoeraser> but i can't uninstall them
[10:17] <bur[n] er> mogul: change your gtk theme?
[10:17] <richiefrich> killux: go into preferences and look if it is setup right
[10:17] <mogul> bur[n] er: thanks but what's now?
[10:17] <Balshoy>  /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[10:17] <mogul> I've changed
[10:17] <ufoeraser> off course i'm speaking about themes installed by me!
[10:17] <bur[n] er> mogul: install ubuntu-desktop and see if ti's better... or xubuntu-desktop
[10:17] <mogul> some themes doesn't appear correctly
[10:17] <killux> richiefrich: its not
[10:17] <dontcho--> ufoeraser if you hit remove it'll be remove from the list
[10:18] <richiefrich> killux: then change it ?
[10:18] <bur[n] er> mogul: you probably don't have all the dependencies
[10:18] <killux> richiefrich: the pull down doesnt even give me any options
[10:18] <mogul> no it worked before
[10:18] <richiefrich> killux: ooh
[10:18] <mogul> was nice
[10:18] <ufoeraser> yeah
[10:18] <ufoeraser> done
[10:18] <ufoeraser> thanks
[10:18] <swooney> stefg: it says i need the source of my kernal, does that come with it or is that another thing i have to download?
[10:18] <hinesd> ritchiefritch: running setup now
[10:18] <richiefrich> hinesd: ok
[10:18] <mogul> I tried changing how KDE threat with GTK styles. Could it be the source of the problem?
[10:18] <killux> richiefrich: do you know ?
[10:18] <richiefrich> hinesd: you know you can tab names in irc ;)
[10:19] <stefg> swooney: that's a separate download.... have you built software from source before?
[10:19] <dontcho--> mp3 not supported... wtf .. heh
[10:19] <swooney> stefg: nope i don't think
[10:19] <richiefrich> killux: no unfortunatly .. sorry .. i have pull down on my ver
[10:19] <hinesd> haha
[10:19] <bur[n] er> !mp3 | dontcho--
[10:19] <ubotu> dontcho--: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:19] <err0r> is their a way to download ubuntu packages in windows so i can install them in ubuntu and finally get online with ubuntu today i have tried many searches and all i can get is source for what i need
[10:19] <hinesd> nope i don't
[10:19] <Moduliz0r> Now this is getting serious, whats stopping all these programs from running and working in 7.04 when they ran perfectly with the same card in 5.10?
[10:19] <bur[n] er> err0r: packages.ubuntu.com will give you .debs
[10:19] <richiefrich> killux: but then again im on a different ver im sure
[10:19] <killux> richiefrich: i mean so do i, but it just doesnt name any soundcards
[10:19] <stefg> swooney: oh, so this will gonna be a learning experience
[10:19] <err0r> thank you
[10:19] <hinesd> grub> setup (hd0)
[10:19] <hinesd>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage1" exists... yes
[10:19] <hinesd>  Checking if "/boot/grub/stage2" exists... no
[10:19] <hinesd> Error 25: Disk read error
[10:19] <richiefrich> hinesd: :\
[10:19] <dontcho--> bur[n] er thanks man
[10:20] <stefg> !paste hinesd
[10:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paste hinesd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:20] <richiefrich> hinesd: read that forum post
[10:20] <Tchaka> Hello, I updated my ubuntu (feisty) and more particular my Kernel (via synaptic), updated to 2.6.20-15 for the 2.6.20-16 generic version, but now after a reboot I do not have my graphic acceleration anymore. Did somebody have this problem after an update of the kernel?
[10:20] <Unievo> whats the best DVD/CD and image burner for Ubuntu?
[10:20] <stefg> !paste | hinesd
[10:20] <ubotu> hinesd: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:20] <richiefrich> hinesd: im reading from this page - > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117271&highlight=grub+error+25
[10:20] <Moduliz0r> whatever. I havent had one useful or helpful reply today. I'm beginning to hate Linux although I once loved it :(
[10:20] <hinesd> ok i'm reading
[10:20] <bur[n] er> Unievo: there are many options... gnomebaker, nautilus, brasero, graveman, k3b
[10:20] <richiefrich> hinesd: you might need the liveCd
[10:20] <stefg> !build | swooney
[10:20] <ubotu> swooney: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[10:20] <richiefrich> hinesd: err install Cd
[10:20] <hinesd> haha thanks for your help thus far, i'm on the live cd now
[10:20] <richiefrich> hinesd: ooh
[10:20] <swooney> stefg: okay i guess i am up for it, i think i can handle step 2 and on if you wouldn't mind directing me to the source
[10:21] <swooney> stefg: ahh ok thanks!
[10:21] <gordonjcp> Moduliz0r: what's the problem?
[10:21] <Moduliz0r> Can't get my TV card to work
[10:21] <richiefrich> hinesd: then maybe you need to reboot .. like it says .. Boot with your Ubuntu installation CD....... On the boot: prompt, type rescue and hit enter......Follow the instructions on the screen.......When the computer is ready, assuming that /dev/hda is where your /boot is located, type: grub-install /dev/hda
[10:21] <Mathdiver> hello everybody
[10:21] <Moduliz0r> and things like TVTime just flicker and disapear
[10:21] <richiefrich> hinesd: idk why  it would be any different
[10:21] <Moduliz0r> and XawTV makes my whole screen go black
[10:22] <mogul> and what can cause that that I only can access internet in KDE or in Englightenment, but not anymore in gnome?
[10:22] <deus> "kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[10:22] <deus> " <<< what is this?
[10:22] <bur[n] er> mogul: using a proxy?  is network-manager getting loaded in gnome?
[10:22] <richiefrich> Moduliz0r: install gentoo on your xbox!
[10:22] <hinesd> i'm gonna try that
[10:22] <richiefrich> Moduliz0r: -_-`
[10:22] <Moduliz0r> No I'd rather not get banned from Xbox Live
[10:22] <mastercactapus> can anyone help me with this error when i log in: "Gnome-CRITICAL **: gnome_program_module_register: assertion `module_info' failed"  if i click ok i get booted out
[10:22] <richiefrich> hinesd: i wish you luck
[10:22] <hinesd> thanks
[10:22] <mogul> proxy no, network managar OK
[10:22] <richiefrich> Moduliz0r: bah
[10:23] <Moduliz0r> ah stuff it
[10:23] <Moduliz0r> Im going into Windows.
[10:23] <richiefrich> ..
[10:23] <Anubuntu> Heyo, anyone familiar with using Ubuntu as an NFS server and then mounting it on a Mac?
[10:23] <mogul> local ping OK, internet no.
[10:23] <Moduliz0r> If linux cant perform where Windows can, well...
[10:23] <mastercactapus> i updated the kernel (from within update manager) before witch i didnt have any problems
[10:23] <erstazi> has there been any issues yet with the new kernel?
[10:23] <Mathdiver> guys, do you know if ubuntu supports wifi cards and wifi networks by default?
[10:24] <Moduliz0r> why do so many programs not run?
[10:24] <bur[n] er> Mathdiver: it does... check your card though... you may need ndiswrapper if drivers are not opensourced
[10:24] <MojoWork> is there a faster source for security.ubuntu.com ?
[10:24] <Moduliz0r> they just flicker and vanish
[10:24] <mastercactapus> anyone?
[10:24] <MojoWork> 2.6.20 is coming down at 12K/s
[10:24] <Moduliz0r> /
[10:24] <Tacroy> I need to make hostapd start after dhcpd does, how do Ubuntu's init scripts manage that?
[10:24] <atul> mastercactpus: what  is ur problem
[10:25] <Mathdiver> bur[n] er: is ndiswrapper included in ubuntu cd distribution?
[10:25] <Anubuntu> MojoWork: System/administration/software sources
[10:25] <mastercactapus> atul: since i updated with the update manager (kernel image) i cannot stay logged in, i get the 'your session has lasted less than 10 seconds error' when i click ok i get booted out
[10:25] <Mathdiver> bur[n] er:  and if yes, where can i find it?
[10:26] <Anubuntu> MojoWork: download from: other... and click "select best server" it will automatically find hte fastest one for you!
[10:26] <MojoWork> for security?
[10:26] <mogul> ubuntu-desktop can't be installed. Depending on Open office.org sg, but not signed to install.
[10:26] <stefg> !meta-package
[10:26] <ubotu> A meta-package is a package that simply depends upon other packages and brings them in. It's not a real package, but a very useful package that can drag in other package versions.
[10:26] <richiefrich> MojoWork: get a faster connection ;)   /me hides
[10:26] <MojoWork> also, i don't run gnome. anyone know ... hmm...actually you can get to that from gmome-control-center too no?
[10:26] <Anubuntu> MojoWork: It seems to update all your repositories ot the fastest ones :P
[10:27] <MojoWork> i thought security didn't have any mirrors though...
[10:27] <stefg> MojoWork: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors?action=show&redirect=Archive
[10:27] <seboo> :list
[10:27] <mildner> is there german help
[10:27] <richiefrich> !list
[10:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:27] <purpzey> !de | mildner
[10:27] <ubotu> mildner: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:28] <seboo> #ubuntu-fr ?
[10:28] <stefg> !fr
[10:28] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:28] <seboo> yes
[10:28] <seboo> thanks
[10:28] <thekidrio> anyone here gotten SketchUp working with wine?
[10:28] <techjimbo> Hey guys I want to launch SSH from a launcher on my gnome desktop.  I've made the launcher and ssh xxx brings up openssh which never shows me a terminal, even if I enter the correct pw.
[10:29] <Mathdiver>  bur[n] er: i have not internet if i cannot establish a connection with my wifi network
[10:29] <manitoba98> Is there a Linux utility which allows you to manipulate Windows file attributes (System and Hidden, namely) on a FAT32 partition?
[10:29] <mildner> hello please anybody who can help with nvidia and ubuntu?
[10:29] <thekidrio> techjimbo, for the launcher did you select run in terminal?
[10:29] <Anubuntu> MojoWork: Security has mirrors to! My sources.list says it is so.
[10:29] <thekidrio> !nvidia | mildner
[10:29] <ubotu> mildner: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:29] <purpzey> manitoba: NTFS read?
[10:29] <Ryugaka> !install | Ryugaka
[10:30] <techjimbo> thekidrio: no, but I never saw that check box.  I only see that on alt + f2
[10:30] <kazol> Has anyone here hosted a server on a residential ISP (such as Verizon) without problems even if prohibited by the TOS?
[10:30] <stefg> manitoba98: i spent considerable time on trying to find something like that( i didn't). so let me know if you find one
[10:30] <techjimbo> thekidrio: ahf ound it.
[10:30] <MojoWork> Anubuntu: thanks
[10:30] <thekidrio> techjimbo, that should do it :) otherwise there are some graphical ssh proggies out there I think
[10:30] <Mathdiver>  bur[n] er: if i download ndiswrapper on a usb key, where should i copy ? in which folder, so that it is loaded automatically? is there some file to modify?
[10:30] <Pelo> good afternoon folks
[10:30] <thekidrio> i just make bash scripts for each server heh
[10:31] <Ryugaka> i haven't used ubuntu in a while, i might actually virtually install it to try it out again.
[10:31] <MojoWork> Ryugaka: why not use the live cd?
[10:31] <Pelo> how can I tell if my comp is usb 2.0 ready , meaning ubuntu, I know the mobo can handle it but the docs say I need special drivers
[10:31] <Ryugaka> well, i don't have any control over what gets on this computer.
[10:32] <Ryugaka> i really miss ubuntu and the cmi
[10:32] <PriceChild> Pelo, you don't need special drivers when using ubuntu
[10:32] <MojoWork> Pelo: i'd be willing to bet that if you're using a recent release you no longer need special drivers
[10:32] <PriceChild> Pelo, if your mobo is usb ready then its fine.
[10:32] <stefg> Ryugaka: you can download preinstalled VM's for vmware. vmware site has these, but a lot of other sites have them, too
[10:32] <Ryugaka> hmm
[10:32] <Pelo> PriceChild, MojoWork , all well and good,  but is there anyway to check ?
[10:32] <Ryugaka> i could just do that, to play with the cmi
[10:33] <PriceChild> Pelo, lspci
[10:33] <Pelo> thank you PriceChild
[10:33] <PriceChild> Pelo, will list usb2.0 devices
[10:33] <Ryugaka> the only problem is my dell has a 32mb vid card, so i don't know how well that would go over.
[10:33] <RoundyT1> Hi, I need to enable email to be sent via my phpbb forum but i don't think i have the right thing setup on my ubuntu server...can anyone help?
[10:33] <thekidrio> Ryugaka, should work fine
[10:33] <mastercactapus> anyone have any ideas for gnome-session crash?
[10:34] <Ryugaka> just slow everywhere else?
[10:34] <p1ls> Hey, is there a way to add polih lanagude + spell check to open office?
[10:34] <stefg> Ryugaka: if you just need a cli to play with you can try andLinux
[10:34] <Ryugaka> andLinux eh?
[10:35] <stefg> Ryugaka: http://wiki.gp2x.org/wiki/AndLinux
[10:36] <hinesd> I have returned.
[10:36] <Ryugaka> HOLY CRAP
[10:36] <Ryugaka> that's pretty sweet.
[10:36] <Ryugaka> i might actually do this.
[10:36] <ziggy23> !install
[10:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[10:37] <bur[n] er> Mathdiver: just boot hte livecd to find out
[10:37] <stefg> Ryugaka: but beware... it still needs some work, some parts are barely held by duct-tape and wire. you'd need a good deal of linux-knowledge to really get it working
[10:38] <Ryugaka> whew
[10:38] <Ryugaka> well it's been a while ;__;
[10:39] <ramatieg> Anyone know a tool to check of a disk at a lower level than filesystem?
[10:39] <MojoWork> yay! it's working! 1m31s to update now instead of 40
[10:39] <nickrud> p1ls, sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-l10n-pl
[10:39] <Pelo> Ryugaka,  if you'Re not allowed to install on the computer, just run it as a live cd and save your stuff to a usb flash drive
[10:39] <soho> which external modem is working in feisty out-of-the-box?
[10:39] <Pelo> !hardware | soho
[10:39] <ubotu> soho: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:40] <soho> Pelo; thx
[10:40] <n2diy> soho: usb or serial port modem?
[10:40] <soho> n2diy; usb
[10:40] <stefg> soho: external modems are actually easier than internal ones (if the aren't usb connected)
[10:40] <Pelo> soho,  np,  ;but don't tell anyone
[10:40] <Ryugaka> well the problem is, my other half doesn't want me to dualbooting
[10:40] <n2diy> soho: Ok, can't help with that.
[10:40] <soho> stefg; it should be external
[10:40] <tarzeau> any of you play sauerbraten?
[10:40] <soho> n2diy; np, thx
[10:41] <Pelo> ryanakca, live cd isn'T dualbooting,  it's booting from the cd , with no install of anykind
[10:41] <MojoWork> Seacrest Out!
[10:41] <Ryugaka> i know it is.
[10:41] <Ryugaka> isn't
[10:41] <Ryugaka> but
[10:41] <erUSUL> !enter
[10:41] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:42] <n2diy> Pelo: isn't there an install icon on your desktop?
[10:42] <Pelo> erUSUL,  stop playing with the bot,  there's nothing going on right now, it doesn't, matter
[10:42] <d1gital> this question probably gets asked alot, but why won't 915resolution work on my inspiron B130?  i installed it and it worked until i rebooted.  now I can't make it work again.  I even tried removing and reinstalling the package, to no avail
[10:42] <nickrud> p1ls, erm, also myspell-dictionary-pl for spelling
[10:42] <stefg> soho: no usb one.. good old fashined serial connection. most of them have their own micro-controller, and can just be handled by god'ole AT-style commands
[10:42] <mastercactapus> ok i created a new user and was able to sucessfully log in without any problems, now what do i have to delete to reset my settings in my main account for gnome session manager
[10:42] <Pelo> n2diy,  not on my desktop, I'm running ubuntu from the hdd,  it is installed already, you only get an install icon when you are working from the live cd
[10:43] <soho> stefg; i have no serial on my notebook
[10:43] <dj_baggio> what programm is the best for moviemaker?
[10:43] <n2diy> Pelo: ok, I must have replied to the wrong nick, some was looking for an install option while booting the cd?
[10:44] <Pelo> dj_baggio,  mencoder + dvdauthor
[10:44] <n2diy> some/someone
[10:44] <SgtFox> hey guys, can anyone tell me if there's an easy way to *Nuke all traces of Grub from my system*?
[10:44] <dj_baggio> Pelo: thx - I'll try :)
[10:44] <stefg> soho: hmm, then you'd need to do some research on google.... ubuntu usb-modem might be a good search term
[10:44] <soho> stefg; ok, thx
[10:45] <CheshireViking> anybody able to help with ndiswrapper? I've got a laptop with a bcm4306 pcmcia card installed, ndiswrapper is installed & appears to be working and configured, lshw shows wlan0 as the logical name & ndiswrapper as the driver, lsmod shows ndiswrapper is loaded, iwconfig shows wlan0 with ESSID:off/any and no access point associated - my question is how do is get the access point associated?
[10:45] <PriceChild> SgtFox, what's the point in that? Do you want to replace it with something else?
[10:45] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: boot from windows cd -> rescue/repair console, run fixmbr and ... fix-something else
[10:45] <stefg> Pelo: the AOL-syndrom
[10:45] <SgtFox> unfortunately, there's no easy way to to do that with my Vista DVD
[10:46] <PriceChild> SgtFox, please read microsoft.com for advice on how to restore the mbr
[10:46] <Bluetooth> hi all
[10:46] <SgtFox> they've replaced XP's useful recovery console with some ridiculous graphical interface that can't find my installation
[10:46] <deviance> Whats debian?
[10:46] <PriceChild> !windows | SgtFox
[10:46] <ubotu> SgtFox: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[10:46] <stefg> !debian
[10:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[10:46] <Pelo> SgtFox, vista is the best insentive to move to ubuntu
[10:46] <Bluetooth> I'm trying to use Skype in Ubuntu but I got Problem with Sound Device error when picking up
[10:46] <Thehound666> well couldn't he just restore it with grub from the live CD?
[10:46] <Bluetooth> any ideas?
[10:47] <Thehound666> then boot into ubuntu and edit the menu.lst
[10:47] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: sorry cant help you with vista, have avoided it very much
[10:47] <Thehound666> to point to his Vista loader
[10:47] <Pelo> Bluetooth, it's been mentionned before, check the forum
[10:47] <SgtFox> well, Ubuntu killed my Windows installation, so it's kind of forcing itself on me
[10:47] <SgtFox> ;)
[10:47] <d1gital> CheshireViking:  you should be able to just use System>Administration>Network, assuming your wireless light is on.
[10:47] <tixxtaxx> sgtfox: lol
[10:47] <Keia> nick ModernWay
[10:47] <Bluetooth> Pelo where?
[10:47] <zombieninja-> What's Debian?
[10:47] <Bluetooth> forum is mess
[10:47] <Thehound666> Ubuntu is trying to tell you something very strongly
[10:47] <Pelo> Thehound666, try to not use the enter key as punctuation
[10:47] <Pockets> How do you stop modules from loading on Ubuntu 7.04 boot?
[10:47] <Thehound666> like to not use Vista :P
[10:47] <Pelo> Bluetooth, www.ubuntuforums.com
[10:47] <stefg> !debian | zombieninja-
[10:47] <ubotu> zombieninja-: Ubuntu and Debian are closely related. Ubuntu builds on the foundations of Debian architecture and infrastructure, with a different community and release process. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship - Remember, !repositories meant for Debian should NOT be used on Ubuntu!
[10:48] <rollerskatejamms> Hey anybody know how I can find my gateway when I'm using dhcp?
[10:48] <ipx> zombieninja-: a linux distribution
[10:48] <SgtFox> ubuntu doesn't even install itself correctly, so I'm left with the LiveCD version
[10:48] <Bluetooth> Pelo I know the address
[10:48] <nuu> SgtFox: what's the matter ?
[10:48] <SgtFox> ubuntu is more than telling me, it's doing it
[10:48] <Bluetooth> just can't find anything helpful
[10:48] <CheshireViking> Digital, i've got one light on, but System>Administration>Network doesn't show any devices in the the box, it should show wlan0, but doesn't, iwlist wlan0 scan also doesn't show anything
[10:48] <mastercactapus> do you have to create a new user every time you install a kernel update?
[10:48] <Pelo> Bluetooth, my suggestion was to use the search feature for posts with  skipe and soundcard in them
[10:48] <n2diy> Pockets: I think you Blacklist them, but I'm not sure how to do that?
[10:48] <stefg> no, of course not
[10:48] <n2diy> ! blacklist
[10:48] <ubotu> To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add  blacklist <modulename>  to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type  sudo update-initramfs -u 
[10:49] <Thehound666> well if the install is not working, then your MBR is not just toasted for Vista. I'd reinstall grub or use gag if it hates your hardware(rare)'
[10:49] <SgtFox> nuu - trying to install Ubuntu from my LIveCD took out my Vista installation and didn't work in itself
[10:49] <Pelo> mastercactapus, no you donT' you probably had one of those bugs thingys
[10:49] <sharperguy> How do I completely disable SCIM in Feisty?
[10:49] <Bluetooth> Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.
[10:49] <Bluetooth> :)
[10:49] <nuu> SgtFox: it probably just overwrote the boot loader, installing grub
[10:50] <SgtFox> is there anyway I can undo that from a Linux perspective (so I don't get forwarded onto the MS support site)
[10:50] <SgtFox> ;)
[10:50] <Pelo> Bluetooth, then try asking again periodicaly , maybe someone will show up that knows how to help you,  or try checking the skypes forums and documentation
[10:50] <mastercactapus> accidentally pressed ok, did someone reply?
[10:50] <Pockets> hm
[10:50] <Pelo> mastercactapus, no you donT' you probably had one of those bugs thingys
[10:51] <tixxtaxx> i think sgtfox problem is the same i had the other day: grub numbers/maps the drives in one way when on the live cd (same as when ubuntu up and running), but during boot up grub numbers the discs differently, and -> smack
[10:51] <mastercactapus> could you suggest a way to fix it? the new user i created is able to log in just fine but im having trouble getting mine to
[10:51] <n2diy> Pockets: Did you see the Blacklist instructions?
[10:51] <stefg> SgtFox: no ubuntu recovery  can write an original windows mbr (patent issues, you know) so you'd have to use some from of windows tool to get a windows mbr back
[10:51] <nuu> SgtFox, you can either restore the windows bootloader using bootsect/bcdedit from the vista cd, or add the windows partition manually to grub using the linux live cd you're already using
[10:51] <Thehound666> well he said he only has live CD. He probably didn't install grub properly to the MBR
[10:51] <d1gital> why is it that when i maximize a window it stays the same size??
[10:52] <Pockets> n2diy: No, I currently can't boot at all.
[10:52] <mastercactapus> Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "toggle_shaded"
[10:52] <mastercactapus> Initializing gnome-mount extension
[10:52] <nuu> SgtFox: of course if i were you, i wouldnt expect much help with the former in here ;)
[10:52] <Pockets> So I'm looking for a selective startup option or something similar.
[10:52] <Thehound666> it should boot Ubuntu from his HDD at least, then he can edit menu.lst to include Vista
[10:52] <SgtFox> tixxtaxx - yeah, which is unfortunate ;)
[10:52] <rescon> i need help with my broadcom wireless card
[10:52] <stefg> !wifi | rescon
[10:52] <nuu> SgtFox: if that's the issue, then it's a most trivial fix
[10:52] <ubotu> rescon: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:53] <hjmills> is it possible to get gedit to prompt you for the sudo password if you are running as a user with sudo privs when you try to save a file owned by root?
[10:53] <rescon> it was working sparingly.. i tried reinstalling it and now my wireless eth1 isnt showing up at all
[10:53] <nuu> SgtFox: just bear in mind that grub starts numbering disks from 0, whileas the devices are numbered starting from 1
[10:53] <airween_> i have few md devices on my nem feisty
[10:53] <nuu> SgtFox: for instance, disk /dev/hda1 (first disk on first ide channel) will be hd(0,0) for grub
[10:53] <richiefrich> hjmills: then --> cd /mnt/ubuntu/boot
[10:53] <rescon> ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[10:53] <richiefrich> hjmills: sorry
[10:53] <rescon> when i type sudo ifdown eth1
[10:53] <airween_> physical disks are WD
[10:54] <root> where can i get a good list of sources... i just installed fiesty and im afraid my sources list is looking rather dismal
[10:54] <rescon> how do i configure eth1?
[10:54] <airween_> controller is a Megaraid
[10:54] <rescon> because it's not showing up at all in my network manager
[10:54] <ward_> how can i see how much is used of what drive in a nice way in feisty please?
[10:54] <sharperguy> Does anyone know how to disable SCIM in Feisty?
[10:54] <stefg> root: don't chat as root!
[10:54] <Thehound666> I already pointed 1 person here today in #kubuntu
[10:54] <airween_> my problem is, when i sync the md arrays, the sync is very slow.
[10:54] <rescon> anyone?
[10:54] <Thehound666> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[10:54] <happytron> is there a way to stop the annoying gksu fadeout?
[10:54] <n2diy> ward_: df -h
[10:54] <SgtFox> nuu: I think I might have complicated the issue by attempting to install Ubuntu again and putting the bootloader on a different drive
[10:54] <root> oh i am in here as root aren't i....
[10:54] <stefg> !easysource | root
[10:54] <nuu> SgtFox: once you're confident you know which disk holds the boot partition you're trying to boot, you can force that into grub by editing it at runtime, and then modifying its menu file once you've booted in the system
[10:54] <ubotu> root: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:54] <ward_> n2diy, ty
[10:54] <Thehound666> that will reinstall grub without touching any OS
[10:54] <airween_> the partition size is 237GB
[10:55] <rollerskatejamms> Anybody know a way to view visio files?
[10:55] <airween_> relevant info from /proc/mdstat:
[10:55] <airween_> finish=461.5min speed=6804K/sec
[10:55] <Pockets> rollerskatejamms: With visio!
[10:55] <airween_> 6804K/sec !!!!!!
[10:55] <rollerskatejamms> Pockets, I meant on linux.
[10:55] <carpeveritas> need help, I've got a problem with my package manager
[10:55] <SgtFox> nuu: grub doesn't seem to want to let me have anything to do with it at runtime
[10:55] <ward_> n2diy, i mean something to see how much of my linux partition is used and how much of my windows partition
[10:55] <Thehound666> sudo mount /dev/hda# /whateveryouwant
[10:55] <airween_> anybody has idea, what may be the problem?
[10:56] <Thehound666> or hdb if vista on slave
[10:56] <hypn0> rollerskatejamms: doesn't dia load them :-/
[10:56] <SgtFox> nuu: the first thing it tells me about is  stage 1.5
[10:56] <Krazy> how do i enter ubuntu in the grub cli
[10:56] <rescon> can anyone help?
[10:56] <rollerskatejamms> hypn0, maybe
[10:56] <n2diy> ward_: df -h doesn't show your windows partition!?
[10:56] <nuu> SgtFox: so you can't even get INTO the grub menu, can you ?
[10:56] <SgtFox> nope
[10:56] <CheshireViking> anybody able to help with ndiswrapper? I've got a laptop with a clean xubuntu install with a bcm4306 pcmcia card installed, ndiswrapper is installed & appears to be working and configured, lshw shows wlan0 as the logical name & ndiswrapper as the driver, lsmod shows ndiswrapper is loaded, iwconfig shows wlan0 with ESSID:off/any and no access point associated, network manager doesn't  give me wlan0 to configure, and iwlist wlan0 scan
[10:56] <CheshireViking>  doesn't find anything - any suggestions?
[10:56] <Pockets> hm
[10:56] <rollerskatejamms> hypn0, trying it now
[10:57] <ward_> n2diy, it shows one 18 GB drive (i have 2 of 17 or 18 GB, one for windows, one for ubuntu)
[10:57] <ward_> n2diy, and the info is faulty too :s 1,9GB used, and i used more on both partitions
[10:57] <n2diy> ward_: can you dual boot?
[10:57] <ward_> n2diy, yeah everything works like it should lol
[10:57] <Pockets> CheshireViking: PCMCIA card?
[10:58] <n2diy> ward_: weird.
[10:58] <Pockets> CheshireViking: Er, I mean, MiniPCI card (internal) ?
[10:58] <rollerskatejamms> hypn0, nope doesnt work
[10:58] <CheshireViking> Pockets, no pcmcia removable
[10:58] <ward_> n2diy, is there anything with a GUI ?
[10:59] <Pockets> CheshireViking: Usually, that means your radio is turned off, and you normally see it in MiniPCI cards.  MadWifi drivers use "iwconfig ath0 txpower [something above 0] "
[10:59] <n2diy> ward_: not that I'm familiar with, I always use df.
[10:59] <ward_> ok no prob n2diy
[10:59] <hjmills> is it possible to get gedit to prompt you for the sudo password if you are running as a user with sudo privs when you try to save a file owned by root?
[10:59] <nuu> SgtFox: you should boot from the live cd, figure out which disk holds the boot partition you want to boot (you can use "sudo fdisk -l" for that), and then restore grub, using something along the lines of (from the cmdline you get after starting "grub" from a terminal): root(hdx,y) and setup(hdx)
[11:00] <Pockets> CheshireViking: If that didn't help, check your power management options (however you do that in ndis, I dunno, I use atheros).
[11:00] <Armageddon00> would someone help me remove GNU's Java and but in the real one?
[11:00] <carpeveritas> how can I modify a file in the file system?... I need the correct permissions
[11:00] <Armageddon00> I'm not sure what to check off in synaptic to get java 6
[11:00] <nuu> SgtFox: after that, grub should be rewritten to the boot sector of your disk, and you'll be able to boot into the grub menu - at which point you'll be able to manually edit entries (using "e" at grub boot menu), and boot into whatever partition you have setup
[11:01] <Anubuntu> Armageddon: try  "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts" in terminal instead
[11:01] <rescon> can anyone help me with my wifi problems?
[11:01] <CheshireViking> Pockets, just tried iwconfig wlan0 txpower and a number straight afterwards, but nothing changed
[11:01] <n2diy> ward_: system-prefrences-disk, works here on Dapper
[11:02] <danub> whats the package name for the w32codecs?
[11:02] <danub> i cant seem to find it in my sources list
[11:02] <dabaR> !w32codecs
[11:02] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[11:02] <tonsofpcs> the other day someone linked to a web-based software repository that has deb packages to download and launch directly 'one click' with gdebi.  Anyone know the site?
[11:02] <angusb> hey
[11:02] <abo> I need to mount my digital camera after pluging it to usb drive, if I do lsusb I get the following:  Bus 005 Device 005: ID 054c:0010 Sony Corp. DSC-S30/S70/S75/F505V/F505/FD92 Cybershot/Mavica Digital Camera, anyone knows how can I figure out from that the device name to be passed to the command mount -t vfat /dev/<device> /media/usb?
[11:02] <ward_> n2diy, doesnt exist here
[11:02] <Armageddon00> Anubuntu: Ok will do
[11:02] <SgtFox> nuu: Ok, will attempt to give that a try - it's currently telling me it's probing devices to 'guess' bios drives which is reassuring...
[11:02] <angusb> can any of you guys halep a rell noob
[11:02] <angusb> real noob*
[11:02] <Pockets> CheshireViking: man iwconfig and look for the other power setting.
[11:03] <dashaun> I've installed postgresql using apt-get, when I try to start the sevice, it appears to work, but doing a "status" shows that it is indeed down
[11:03] <SgtFox> nuu: it'd be nice if it could 'know' them
[11:03] <n2diy> ward_: That's what I figured, it disappeared after Dapper!?
[11:03] <CheshireViking> Pockets, i'll give it a go
[11:03] <sldkfj> There are sweet little update/installs all around this feisty fawn,  I like the way things are looking.
[11:03] <ward_> n2diy, i believe so, i think i just read that when i googled for a way to see how much is used of what partition
[11:03] <jupengfei> hi
[11:04] <n2diy> ward_: That's why I'm not "upgrading."
[11:04] <Pokit> is there a dock better than kiba dock? it's way buggy for me
[11:04] <ward_> n2diy, i'm running ubuntu studio
[11:04] <Krazy> i'm a noob and i am having an ubuntu nightmare, i've been working on it all day and i can't get back to windows or ubuntu
[11:04] <purpzey> Pokit: #ubuntu-effects
[11:04] <sldkfj> Pokit, there is AWN
[11:05] <n2diy> ward_: Interesting, your the first person I've run into running that version.
[11:05] <Pockets> What the hell is studio?
[11:05] <danub> what is his repo?
[11:05] <danub> ti dont need freenx yet... i need the coedecs and others
[11:05] <ward_> n2diy, its basically feisty with some extra packets
[11:05] <rescon> sudo ifdown eth1
[11:05] <rescon> ifdown: interface eth1 not configured
[11:05] <rescon> why?
[11:05] <rescon> can someone help me with this/
[11:05] <n2diy> Pockets: a different flavor of Ubuntu.
[11:06] <Pockets> n2diy: What's the point, though?
[11:06] <Truth[laptop] > Hi, when trying to install the ATI Proprietary Driver I get this error -> ./ati-installer.sh: 165: Syntax error: Bad substitution # Any ideas?
[11:07] <n2diy> Pockets: I believe it is meant for folks who do a lot of video editing stuff?
[11:07] <Pockets> Oh, interesting.
[11:07] <techbee> rescon: can u check  eth1 entry  in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:07] <aoirthoir> Pockets, people can make their own distro to have things already installed that focus on a particular task. This way they do not have to install and set up many different apps. Ubuntu Studio, UBuntu Christian Edition, Ubuntu Satan Edition are all such distros.
[11:07] <Pawba> aoirthoir: There's a Satan edition?
[11:07] <Pawba> hm
[11:07] <Pawba> What about a Darwinist edition?
[11:08] <aoirthoir> Pawba, yup. Dont know about a darwinist edition. Sounds like a good idea.
[11:08] <danub> lol
[11:08] <gnomefreak> Pawba: join #ubuntu-offtopic to continue with that please
[11:08] <Pawba> hm
[11:08] <svu> where could I find alternative image for feisty (x86)?
[11:08] <Pawba> gnomefreak: I didn't start it! :P
[11:08] <xjkx> i cant play dvds
[11:08] <xjkx> !dvds
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <xjkx> !dvd
[11:08] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[11:08] <LadyNikon> svu: in the download section of the website
[11:09] <n2diy> svu: here is the US mirror: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/xubuntu/6.06.1/release.1/
[11:09] <svu> LadyNikon, I tried. There is only generic ISO. Cannot find the alternative one (with LVM)
[11:09] <LadyNikon> ah
[11:09] <LadyNikon> sorry :S
[11:10] <svu> n2diy, I mean _alternative_ ISO
[11:10] <eternalswd> is it possible to get line-in to go directly to speakers?
[11:10] <n2diy> svu: it is the alternate iso!
[11:11] <Chicory> Is it hdparam that you use to improve DVD playback?
[11:11] <n2diy> svu: I'm looking at it right now, that is why I had the URL handy.
[11:11] <Pawba> aoirthoir: I found Studio, but none of the other versions you mentioned...
[11:11] <svu> n2diy, ghm. I see it is xubuntu, first of all. Second, I do not see any mentioning of lvm
[11:11] <SgtFox> guys, how can I reinstall the grub bootloader from my Ubuntu LiveCD?
[11:11] <jayk121121> /who #ubuntu
[11:11] <Sampson> Ok, so I was messing around with some login window features and I accidently checked the "Enable Accessible Login" option in System -> Administration -> Login Window -> Accessibility before I restarted. Now, when I try to load up the OS I get a loading cursor symbol that loads forever and I can't get to the login screen. I'm not sure why this option broke the whole OS as i'm fairly new to linux so any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm r
[11:11] <Armageddon00> everytime i try to install eclipse it wants to install the GNU Java libraries..
[11:11] <svu> n2diy, sorry, I see alternative iso
[11:11] <svu> n2diy, what about feisty?
[11:11] <Armageddon00> Does anyone know how to make it use the real java?
[11:11] <Nostferka> Could anyone help me with the palm software?
[11:11] <tremby> is it possible to run ubuntu on a laptop with 192 megs of ram?
[11:11] <Nostferka> Can i view my calender from pc?
[11:12] <n2diy> svu: up two levels?
[11:12] <rescon> techbee: auto eth1
[11:12] <rescon> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[11:12] <xjkx> libdvdread3  is in its newer version and i cant play dvds
[11:12] <stefg> tremby: rather use xubuntu
[11:12] <Krazy> SgtFox:I need to know the same thing
[11:12] <tremby> stefg: never heard of xubuntu -- what is it?
[11:12] <stefg> !xubuntu | tremby
[11:12] <ubotu> tremby: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[11:12] <svu> n2diy, 3 levels may be? I do not want xubuntu, I want ubuntu;)
[11:12] <tremby> stefg: thanks
[11:12] <techbee> rescon:is there any entry  for wireless-essid
[11:13] <stefg> tremby: and use the so-called alternate (text-mode) installer
[11:13] <rescon> no
[11:13] <Sampson> Can anoyone please help me? It's kind of urgent. Not sure if anyone even saw my question/problem :(
[11:13] <rescon> techbee: no
[11:13] <SgtFox> Krazy: If I never have to deal with another bootloader ever again, I'll be a happy man
[11:13] <jayk121121> I installed Ubuntu and the screen resolution only goes up to 800x600.  Is there any way to fix this (I was able to make it go higher in Windows).
[11:13] <n2diy> svu:ok, I forgot I was on the Xubutu, you can't find it with google?
[11:13] <stefg> !alternate | tremby
[11:13] <tremby> stefg: should i download xubuntu or normal ubuntu and then install xubuntu?
[11:13] <ubotu> tremby: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:13] <techbee> rescon:how do you to connect  , as  u need atleast  one essid
[11:13] <Krazy> SgtFox: Exactly, this is a nightmare
[11:13] <ubun-video> hi i want to watch some videos online on internet i get error no video and black screen i am usin mozilla
[11:13] <svu> n2diy, now, I cannot. the funny thing is there is alternative iso for xubuntu - but not for ubuntu ;(
[11:13] <stefg> tremby d/l the xubuntu-alternate-install CD
[11:13] <rescon> im on  a wired connection
[11:13] <xjkx> libdvdread3  is in its newer version and i cant play dvds
[11:14] <rescon> techbee: can i pm you?
[11:14] <techbee> rescon:iface eth1 inet static
[11:14] <techbee> rescon:change ur entry
[11:14] <n2diy> svu: roger, Xubutu is just a light weight version of Ubuntu.
[11:14] <pandapanda> Hi all, I'm new to Linux. Could someone point me in the right direction for setting up a C++ IDE and compiler.
[11:14] <svu> n2diy, I know. But I am a gnome person, you know:)
[11:14] <techbee> rescon:sorry
[11:14] <ubun-video> hi i want to watch some videos online on internet i get error no video and black screen i am usin mozilla
[11:14] <xjkx> ...
[11:14] <jayk121121> I have an ATI Mobility Radeon X600
[11:15] <n2diy> svu: roger, you could always install gnome later.
[11:15] <rescon> techbee: i changed it
[11:15] <svu> n2diy, ok. so it seems I have to do it the hard way :(
[11:15] <rescon> techbee never mind it wouldnt let me change it
[11:16] <Sampson> Why can't anyone help me? A login window option I checked makes it so I can't get to my login screen thus can't login to the OS. Is enabling "Enable Accessible Login" really that big of a problem? Why did it destroy my OS?
[11:16] <ubun-video> hi i want to watch some videos online on internet i get error no video and black screen i am usin mozilla
[11:16] <bender183> anyone thinking about gettin that new dell lappy?
[11:16] <SgtFox> Krazy: This might help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[11:16] <n2diy> svu: synaptic isn't that hard! :)
[11:16] <sldkfj> ubun-video, is that feisty?
[11:16] <ubun-video> what are you sayin i donno whats feisty
[11:17] <svu> n2diy, downloading the software I won't use (xfce) is hard for my heart:)
[11:17] <jayk121121> I can't get higher than 800x600 for ATI Mobility Radeon X600
[11:17] <Sampson> Ok, so I was messing around with some login window features and I accidently checked the "Enable Accessible Login" option in System -> Administration -> Login Window -> Accessibility before I restarted. Now, when I try to load up the OS I get a loading cursor symbol that loads forever and I can't get to the login screen. I'm not sure why this option broke the whole OS as i'm fairly new to linux so any help would be greatly appreciated. I'm r
[11:17] <sldkfj> ubun-video, ubuntu 7.04?
[11:17] <techbee> rescon:sorry  , from ur entry  it seems that  u   configured it as dhcp  client
[11:17] <dcordes> How can I find out which module(s) are used by my logitech webcam? (it is working but I would like to see what I need on a different system)
[11:17] <sldkfj> ubun-video, ubuntu 6.10?
[11:17] <braddcadd2000> anyone want to help with a python question?
[11:17] <sldkfj> ubun-video, ubuntu 6.06.1?
[11:17] <Krazy> SgtFox: Was just looking at that. I've done it but I can only get back to the GRUB cmd line, not the normal interface
[11:17] <ubun-video> donno which ubuntu i am usin can i see that by typin uname -a
[11:17] <sldkfj> feisty edgy dapper ???
[11:17] <n2diy> dcordes: lsmod
[11:17] <Mathdiver> good night and so long
[11:18] <ubun-video>  uname -a
[11:18] <ubun-video> Linux matrix 2.6.17-11-generic #2 SMP Fri May 18 23:39:08 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:18] <Pawba> CheshireViking: Any luck?
[11:18] <techbee> rescon:please restore previous entry  and try  to  restart  network services
[11:18] <tonsofpcs> found it.  getdeb.net
[11:18] <SudoBash> i have blackish olive mushrooms growing in this plant next to me
[11:18] <SgtFox> Krazy: Ok, well, good luck with it. A command line would be a massive improvement in my case ;)
[11:18] <ubun-video> how do i know which version i am usin dont know that sorry
[11:18] <rescon> techbee: can i pm you
[11:18] <pandapanda> Anyone help me set up a C/C++ compiler with an IDE?
[11:18] <Sampson> Is this a help room?
[11:19] <Pawba> Sampson: Sometimes.
[11:19] <CheshireViking> Pawba, not yet, just reinstalling the bcmwl5 driver with a slightly different version, i think thats were i've gone wrong
[11:19] <n2diy> ubun-video: system > about-ubuntu
[11:19] <Sampson> ugh
[11:19] <Pawba> CheshireViking: www.ubnt.com
[11:19] <techbee> rescon;yes  u can
[11:19] <sldkfj> ubun-video, that still doesn't do it.  those are kernel versions... looks like edgy maybe
[11:19] <CheshireViking> Pawba, i should have the right version now
[11:20] <Krazy> SgtFox: Thanks, I don't know if you've been here but check it out: http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm#First_method:_direct_kernel_boot.
[11:20] <dcordes> n2diy, that shows me modules and the modules who depend on it. but i want to see which module is used by what device
[11:20] <Sampson> Can anyone atleast tell me where I can get info on booting up in terminal and copying files to an external drive to back them up? Since no one knows anything about Login Window options i guess it's my only choice. PLEASE HELP
[11:20] <ubun-video> so how to find which  version i am usin
[11:20] <D3b|4n> i need help
[11:20] <jayk121121> Is there any way to get higher than 800x600 screen resolution for ATI Mobility Radeon X600
[11:21] <n2diy> dcordes: can't you deduce that from lsmod?
[11:21] <stefg> !patience | Sampson
[11:21] <ubotu> Sampson: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:21] <D3b|4n> i need help why my dns server
[11:21] <kaostikon1> so need some help... i installed apache2.2 and when i type local host into my browser still getting error message cannot find server any one with advise...????
[11:21] <ubun-video> i find it
[11:21] <ubun-video> its Ubuntu 6.10 - Edgy Eft
[11:21] <Sampson> Ok, sorry... it's just that i've been trying to find a place to get help for 2 days. Ill be patient
[11:21] <Pawba> Sampson: Use the LiveCD...
[11:21] <aoirthoir> kaostikon1, you can pm me if you want. I'll try to help you with that.
[11:21] <kaostikon1> k
[11:21] <bender183> so is anyone interested in the new dell lappy?
[11:21] <bender183> im thinking about getting one
[11:22] <ubun-video> its Ubuntu 6.10 - Edgy Eft
[11:22] <UNDERsoN> how can I share my files via ftp from fat partition?
[11:22] <sldkfj> ubun-video, and you want to watch flash videos?
[11:22] <xjkx> libdvdread3  is in its newer version and i cant play dvds
[11:22] <pandapanda> I dont mind waiting also, but if i am to wait i would like to know if the help i need will come to me. Would anyone be able to help me install a C/C++ compiler with an IDE?
[11:22] <ubun-video> yes
[11:22] <D3b|4n> nothing help thnx
[11:23] <ubun-video> i get error no vide
[11:23] <ubun-video> and black screen
[11:23] <UNDERsoN> I can't do chmod 0644 for a fat partition
[11:23] <sldkfj> !restricted | ubun-video
[11:23] <ubotu> ubun-video: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:23] <xjkx> sldkfj: there is where i got the lib
[11:23] <jayk121121> Is there any way to get higher than 800x600 screen resolution for ATI Mobility Radeon X600
[11:23] <Noodlesgc> ok i really really need help plz my ubuntu alternate will not install
[11:24] <rescon> techbee: check your pms
[11:24] <LadyNikon> !kde
[11:24] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[11:24] <sldkfj> ubun-video, also:    http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[11:24] <stefg> Sampson: your problem is that you enabled an option for which not all programs are installed (these are targetted to visually impaired users). so it's a time-consuming effort to help you boot to rescue mode to revert that unfortunate change. How far does your box boot?
[11:24] <LadyNikon> hmm
[11:24] <UNDERsoN> I'm changing permition on 0644 but it changing only on 0640
[11:24] <xjkx> sldkfj: Install the libdvdread3 package (see Chapter2, Adding, Removing and Updating Applications).
[11:24] <LadyNikon> will having KDE and gnome screw anything up?
[11:24] <UNDERsoN> what's wrong
[11:24] <xjkx> but then it doesnt work
[11:24] <ubuntu_> im getting some pretty weird problems with the livecd
[11:24] <sldkfj> xjkx, tell ubun-video
[11:25] <Noodlesgc> !alternate
[11:25] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:25] <nickrud> LadyNikon, no
[11:25] <xjkx> sldkfj: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html#dvdplayback says about "Install the libdvdread3 package (see Chapter2, Adding, Removing and Updating Applications)." and i installed it and it doesnt work
[11:25] <LadyNikon> nickrud: thnx
[11:25] <sldkfj> xjkx,  ubun-video was asking for flash
[11:25] <ubuntu_> it only works in one CD drive, and another random CD has to be in the drive it won't work with or else it won't boot and gives some 'failed to start graphic x-server' error
[11:25] <sldkfj> not dvd
[11:25] <Noodlesgc> !400sd4
[11:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 400sd4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:25] <xjkx> uhm
[11:26] <xjkx> what about dvd?
[11:26] <Noodlesgc> !gateway
[11:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gateway - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:26] <sldkfj> xkjx, wht version are you using?
[11:26] <Noodlesgc> ok i really really need help plz my ubuntu alternate will not install
[11:26] <cantplaydvds> latest
[11:26] <shitwolf> Hi! does anyone know how to run sound directly from line-in through to the speakers? I just hooked up my old record-player....
[11:26] <jayk121121> /leave #ubuntu
[11:27] <hocmin> I just got a new monitor that supports a larger resolution.  Is there a way to "refresh" my system so that it's aware of the new monitor and new potential resolutions?
[11:27] <stefg> shitwolf: record players need a special pre-amp in most cases, so it won't work anyway
[11:27] <sldkfj> xkjx, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:27] <shiryu> hello somebody knows how to erase a emoticon in amsn?
[11:27] <Sampson> stefg: Sorry bout delayed response, door bell heh. I can get booted to a black screen where the loading mouse cursor symbol goes and it just doesn't ever stop
[11:28] <Louey> !ati multimedia center
[11:28] <nickrud> hocmin, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg shoud do the trick
[11:28] <stefg> Sampson: so can you ctrl-alt-f1 to a termianl in that situation?
[11:28] <Sampson> yea
[11:28] <sldkfj> xjkx, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:28] <hocmin> nickrud, is that ok to do from X or should I get out of it?
[11:28] <cantplaydvds> sldkfj: latset
[11:28] <cantplaydvds> fesity
[11:28] <sldkfj> xjkx,     http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:feisty
[11:28] <cantplaydvds> latest
[11:29] <fetale> hello all
[11:29] <sldkfj> xjkx, find dvd guides there
[11:29] <stefg> Sampson: good, so first step would be to stop gdm: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:29] <nickrud> hocmin, you can do that in X; afterwards log out, hit control-alt-backspace (to restart the X server), and it should be all good
[11:29] <patrick> hello
[11:29] <fetale> I seem to be having a problem with my paths in a feisty desktop install
[11:29] <hocmin> nickrud, thanks I'll try that
[11:29] <Noodlesgc> This channel blows
[11:29] <mangkorn> hi folks
[11:29] <ge2x> plz som1 visit http://ez.bendras.com/xml/collection.xml and tell me if the text there is coloured cause im starting to loose my mind
[11:30] <Sampson> stefg: Ok, i got that noted (im booted up in XP right now although). What should I worry about after step 1 heh
[11:30] <wcf`> i have ubuntu setup with windows xp (which i plan to leave behind) and had a couple questions. Can I add another distro and be able to boot into either ubuntu or other distro?
[11:30] <swede> hello
[11:30] <habeeb> wcf`: of course
[11:30] <Noodlesgc> no colors there ge2x
[11:30] <sldkfj> xjkx, have you opened up your source repository list and done an update?
[11:30] <ge2x> Noodlesgc what browser are u using?
[11:31] <nickrud> Noodlesgc, where does the alternate fail? (and have you checked the md5sum?)
[11:31] <wcf`> what is the best way to move the grub to the drive that has the ubuntu installed?
[11:31] <stefg> Sampson: once you are logged in and gdm is stopped you can start the x-server with 'startx' again, this time gdm is not involved
[11:31] <habeeb> wcf`: you have two hard drives?
[11:31] <wcf`> 3
[11:31] <Sampson> stefg: Ok cool. Anything else I should for now?
[11:31] <patrick> to wcf: yes, the limit to multi booting is only the old bios, so 23 partitions and then you would need to start sub-menuing... one guy did 125, I recall
[11:32] <hocmin> nickrud: your advice worked perfectly.  My resolution settings are fixed.  Thanks for your help.
[11:32] <wcf`> geeez
[11:32] <wcf`> kool
[11:32] <habeeb> wcf`: afaik (i'm probably wrong tho, if anyone knows better please correct me) GRUB is installed in your /boot partition. So by moving your /boot partition you can do it.
[11:32] <stefg> Sampson: you should be on your normal desktop then, being able to reach the login manager control-applet and revert the changes
[11:32] <nickrud> hocmin, it's sooo much easier now ;)
[11:32] <Sampson> stefg: Great! Thanks much :)
[11:32] <Colroz> where can i download/install new themes?
[11:33] <Tacroy> A bunch of services I've installed start after I get a console login when I boot the computer.
[11:33] <Tacroy> This is irritating.
[11:33] <patrick> habeeb, and wcf: when you put another Linux on the system, it might write on top of the previous one, adding all OSes to the menu, but, then, lilo is in some distros.
[11:33] <Tacroy> How do I fix it?
[11:33] <hocmin> nickrud: <3 ubuntu
[11:33] <patrick> Tacroy, why?
[11:33] <eantonoff> hello people. newbie running feisty. question: ubuntu autodetects the partitions of my HDD and automount all of them. problem is first partition (laptop here) is with some factory software i want to keep and so dont want this partition to be mounted. how to prevent this from being auto-mounted? edit /etc/fstab? (never messed with partitions on linux before)
[11:34] <Tacroy> patrick: Well, it clutters up the login screen for one thing.
[11:34] <habeeb> eantonoff: yes
[11:34] <Tacroy> Also, I want to mess around with the order in which some services are started.
[11:34] <habeeb> eantonoff: your partition should be with the auto value. edit it to: noauto
[11:34] <acollins> does anyone know which package contains dpkg-architecture?
[11:34] <acollins> in gutsy
[11:34] <EADG> Colroz: www.gnome-look.org
[11:35] <Tacroy> (this is a server install, so there's no gui)
[11:35] <patrick> Tacroy, yes, you could end up with several unwanted entries, though you edit GRUB easily, which is why it is loved by some... has docs included.
[11:35] <shiryu> hello nobody knows how to erase a emoticon in amsn
[11:35] <shiryu> ?
[11:35] <habeeb> shiryu: #amsn ?
[11:35] <Tacroy> Huh?
[11:35] <Pir8> how can I remove the java that came installed with ubuntu through command line ?
[11:36] <Pir8> how do I find out which package the java version was part of ?
[11:36] <Tacroy> What does the bootloader have to do with daemons starting?
[11:36] <habeeb> Pir8: that's the correct question ;)
[11:36] <Pir8> java version "1.4.2"
[11:36] <Pir8> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.2 (Ubuntu 4.1.2-0ubuntu5)
[11:36] <wcf`> when i do away with xp that drive has the boot info or grub(?) I need to be able to istall grub to the drive that has my ubuntu. I am a noob with ubuntu (linux) but i work hard to get it working just they way i like and don't want to hose my installation
[11:36] <eantonoff> habeeb, it has only "defaults" and dump is 0 pass is 1. so instead of "defaults" to write "noauto"?
[11:36] <Pir8> is what I get upon doing: java -version
[11:36] <nickrud> Pir8, you don't really want to remove that java, just add a new one and point ubuntu at it
[11:36] <patrick> Tacroy, I was actually answering wcf, as he was multi booting in GUI... sorry.
[11:36] <CrossX> Hello
[11:36] <habeeb> eantonoff: moment, let me check some stuff and see what defaults mean.
[11:36] <eantonoff> habeeb, ok
[11:36] <CrossX> Ive just installed a fresh copy of ubutnu 7.04
[11:36] <Tacroy> Oh okay.
[11:37] <CrossX> and I dont have a soud
[11:37] <shiryu> habeeb amsn .96
[11:37] <Pir8> nickrud, I did install the latest version, but it still uses the binary /usr/bin/java
[11:37] <shiryu> i think is the most new
[11:37] <CrossX> before I got a beta 7.04
[11:37] <CrossX> and all was fine
[11:37] <CrossX> but now ....
[11:37] <nickrud> Pir8, then do sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:37] <habeeb> shiryu: I mean, try asking in #amsn
[11:37] <CrossX> please help
[11:37] <shiryu> where is it habeeb
[11:37] <patrick> wcf, you can copy and move a copy of GRUB, in fact it is recommended that you save a copy!  Then, it is editable in cli.
[11:37] <habeeb> shiryu: /j #amsn
[11:37] <Pir8> great, thanks nickrud
[11:37] <CrossX> HEEEEEEEELP
[11:38] <shiryu> sorry but im new in linux
[11:38] <habeeb> I'm on it, eantonoff
[11:38] <habeeb> shiryu: no problem :)
[11:38] <emet> hello
[11:38] <Kalisto> does anyone have experience with loopback encryption
[11:38] <eantonoff> :)
[11:38] <fetale> my root partition seems to be full!
[11:39] <fetale> is there any cache or anything I should clean out of it?
[11:39] <habeeb> Yes, I think that substituting defaults with noauto will do it, eantonoff . If it causes you a problem just undo the changes.
[11:39] <Pokit> every time i try to open synaptic package manager, or do system updates, the screen fades a little and nothing happen. any clue why
[11:39] <nickrud> fetale, df will tell you for sure;
[11:39] <Pokit> *happens
[11:39] <stefg> fetale: sudo apt-get clean
[11:39] <n2diy> fetale: how big is the drive?
[11:39] <CrossX> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP
[11:39] <fetale> df -h tell me 36G of 37 G
[11:39] <emet> !help | CrossX
[11:39] <ubotu> CrossX: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:39] <CrossX> NO SOUNS
[11:39] <habeeb> Did you make it shiryu ?
[11:39] <rr72> how do i set my clock to local or UTC so that it stays? i can hwclock set utc/local but when i reboot it screws it up again, this is a triple-boot system with kubuntu and windows2kpro, could it be that ubuntu is gutsy and fucking things up?
[11:39] <stefg> !patience | CrossX
[11:39] <ubotu> CrossX: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:39] <nickrud> fetale, like stefg said above
[11:39] <habeeb> !patience | ubotu
[11:39] <ubotu> ubotu: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:40] <eantonoff> habeeb, after saving the file, should i reboot? (guess it's preferably for a test)
[11:40] <madman91> hey  whos from norway?
[11:40] <stefg> !sound | CrossX
[11:40] <ubotu> CrossX: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:40] <madman91> anyone?
[11:40] <patrick> fetale: that cud lock the GUI from running, at the least!  I booted with a liveCDrom and manipulated the partitions to make my /home more roomy, but, never did fool with doing that to the /root
[11:40] <ompaul> !language | rr72
[11:40] <ubotu> rr72: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:40] <CrossX> stefg alsaconf gave me error
[11:40] <CrossX> alsamixer gave me error
[11:40] <fetale> well, it's a desktop install
[11:40] <fetale> but I'm using it as a server right now
[11:41] <fetale> and I think my DB may have filled it
[11:41] <habeeb> eantonoff: you could aswell umount the partition and then do a "mount -a" (it will mount everything according to fstab), if it's still unmounted it means that fstab will not mount it by default... Or well, you can also reboot :)
[11:41] <ompaul> rr72, the other thing is you should not be using gutsy and in this channel it is not for new users - it is for devs - its channel is #ubuntu+!
[11:41] <rr72> ompaul~ i only said one thing! and others go along with saying over 5 and not being spoken to.
[11:41] <emet> !alsa | CrossX
[11:41] <ubotu> CrossX: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:41] <beterraba> how to download files from a remote pc? does anyone know some graphical interface?
[11:41] <rr72> ompaul~ w/e
[11:41] <habeeb> rrittenhouse: we all love you. don't worry.
[11:41] <Pokit> every time i try to open synaptic package manager, or do system updates, the screen fades a little and nothing happens. any clue why
[11:41] <Pokit> if i press escape, it goes back to normal
[11:41] <patrick> fetale, the db should NOT be in the /root, but, I don't know how you set it up...
[11:41] <Sampson> stefg: Ok, back. Im on my laptop now. I got ubuntu booted up fine by stopping the GDM and then doing startx but now when I try to open the Login Window (system -> Administration -> Login Windo) it says "GDM is not running, You might in fact be using a different display manager, such as KDM (KDE Display Manager) or xdm. If you still with to use this feature, either start GDM yourself or ask your system administrator to start GDM."
[11:42] <stefg> CrossX: i suggest you read /topic again, especially the link to the seriuosly good howto on asking questions on IRC
[11:42] <CrossX> emet: I KNOW WHAT IS ALSA GODAMNIT its not working after reinstall, all was good when I used a beta 7.04 but now i dont have any sound
[11:42] <PriceChild> !caps | CrossX
[11:42] <ubotu> CrossX: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:42] <habeeb> CrossX: chill, sir.
[11:42] <GenNMX> http://lolcode.com/
[11:42] <habeeb> GenNMX: ye, awesome :P
[11:42] <shiryu> no habeeb
[11:42] <PriceChild> !offtopic > GenNMX
[11:42] <habeeb> shiryu: I see. Which IRC client are you using?
[11:42] <CrossX> sry but I really need help
[11:42] <fetale> patrick: I just used the defaults, since migrated the DB
[11:42] <habeeb> CrossX: patience helps when you are trying to get help by volunteers :)
[11:43] <eantonoff> oh yes another question all: in vi my keyboard behaves different - for example INS does not indicate anywhere i am in edit mode, also in edit mode pressing arrow keys prints characters...in fact nightmare. in bash everything is ok. ideas anyone?
[11:43] <chamunks> does anyone know how i would get a tech spec readout of my computer hardware in ubuntu feisty im looking to sell a computer of mine that runs ubuntu and i cant remember whats under the hood
[11:43] <shiryu> mm i think msn
[11:43] <habeeb> eantonoff: did it work?
[11:43] <habeeb> shiryu: you can't connect to IRC with MSN.
[11:43] <CrossX> hebeeb hehe but when theyr will anserw :)
[11:43] <stefg> Sampson: i see... so let's try what happens if you open a terminal and 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start' from there. might give funny results, but worth a try
[11:43] <eantonoff> habeeb, will edit now. you have any idea of my other question?
[11:43] <nickrud> chamunks, lshw and dmidecode
[11:43] <CrossX> its kinda late in my place thats why im no patience
[11:43] <madman91> NORWAY is anyone from norway?
[11:43] <rrittenhouse> habeeb, what was that comment for? :)
[11:43] <chamunks> nickrud, thanks ill look into it
[11:44] <shiryu> mm i dont know what is irc i think it was the server or something
[11:44] <stefg> !no
[11:44] <ubotu> Hvis du vil diskutere Ubuntu paa norsk, venligst gaa til #ubuntu-no. Takk!
[11:44] <habeeb> rrittenhouse: what comment, sorry?
[11:44] <madman91> stefg: thanks
[11:44] <psst> madman91: loads of people are from Norway.
[11:44] <Sampson> stefg: k sec
[11:44] <habeeb> eantonoff: No sorry, I'm not using vi.
 rrittenhouse: we all love you. don't worry.
[11:44] <patrick> fetale:  Then it cud be the permissions, in the users/groups, too... when you move a major data file, or an app. every group that needs access must be updated to have permission...
[11:44] <madman91> psst: are you?
[11:44] <rrittenhouse> haha
[11:44] <habeeb> rrittenhouse: aww.. sorry, wrong "tab" completion. I fail.
[11:44] <rrittenhouse> just makin sure i didnt miss something ;) its all good hahah
[11:44] <root> fetale: chmod 777 and then the dir
[11:44] <patrick> My great grandfather is from Norway, Carlson.
[11:44] <psst> madman91: no, but 4.6 million people are
[11:44] <habeeb> shiryu: Ok don't worry.
[11:45] <eternaljoy> i used Envy to install my Nvidia drivers.  And today I updated to latest kernel. I was told I would need to use Envy to reinstall Nvidia drivers again, but the Nvidia drivers seem to be loading and running fine.  ANy ideas?
[11:45] <habeeb> shiryu: Which program are you using to connect to MSN? Gaim?
[11:45] <EADG> I sent a package to Norway once.
[11:45] <shiryu> no amsn
[11:45] <habeeb> I killed a man in Reno once..
[11:45] <emet> CrossX: I know it sounds stupid but did you check to see if the volume is not muted
[11:45] <eternaljoy> habeeb: you are being logged
[11:45] <patrick> madman91: Norway is a wonderful place to be from...
[11:45] <habeeb> shiryu: that doesn't have IRC support.
[11:45] <emet> CrossX: majority of all sound problems are cause of that
[11:45] <habeeb> shiryu: let me think...
[11:45] <root> loleternaljoy: are the drivers working?
[11:45] <fetale> patrick: the problem is that the migrate only freed 1 GB, so I'm trying to isolate what else could be taking up all this space
[11:45] <chamunks> nickrud, dmidecode wants root :S
[11:46] <madman91> patrick: hence.. my search for norwegians to talk to.. i want to move there
[11:46] <habeeb> eternaljoy: nah.. i just did it to see him dying...
[11:46] <shiryu> you know another messenger that support emoticons and can work with msn?
[11:46] <eternaljoy> habeeb: you must be muslim
[11:46] <psst> madman91: I hope you are very rich.
[11:46] <nickrud> chamunks, yeah, most useful hardware commands give more joy with root ;)
[11:46] <patrick> I have lived in Denmark, and Germany, 1977 through 1982.
[11:46] <eternaljoy> habeeb: they enjoy that kind of thing
[11:46] <troy_> hello, has anyone here compiled fst on ubuntu? i can't get it to compile with or without pthreads installed
[11:46] <CrossX> emet: how can I check if the sound is muted if i cant run alsaconf
[11:46] <eantonoff> habeeb, question: edited /etc/fstab, but did not deleted "defaults" just added "noauto" next to it. now try to unmount the partition using the gui and it says it will not because unmounting "disagrees with fstab". why so?
[11:46] <habeeb> eternaljoy: yes, them, and johnny cash..
[11:46] <psst> eternaljoy: huh?
[11:46] <eternaljoy> nickrud: hello! know anything about Envy
[11:47] <stefg> guys,gals, this channle is busy enough. can the chatter move to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[11:47] <eternaljoy> psst: LOL! that comment always fishes out the muslims :P
[11:47] <nickrud> eternaljoy, no, but off the top of my head: have you rebooted yet?
[11:47] <habeeb> shiryu: could you post a screenshot or something of the program you are using to talk to me right now, so that I can udnerstand which one is it.
[11:47] <eternaljoy> nickrud: yes rebooted and it works fine
[11:47] <emet> CrossX: check the sound applet/icon in the corner of the screen
[11:47] <ariane> hello!
[11:47] <emet> CrossX: dbl click it
[11:47] <habeeb> shiryu: but well.. if you right now type: /j #amsn ,it will probably transfer you to the amsn channel.
[11:47] <nickrud> eternaljoy, no, I use ati sadly
[11:47] <eternaljoy> nickrud: I thought envy needs to be run again
[11:47] <CrossX> emet: I dont have any of it
[11:47] <eternaljoy> nickrud: heh ok
[11:47] <habeeb> eantonoff: probably because you did not delete defaults.
[11:47] <shiryu> mm let me try
[11:47] <emet> CrossX: do you have a Creative Labs card?
[11:47] <eantonoff> habeeb, ok. will do now.
[11:47] <Sampson> stefg: Yea i got a weird error. Hit itoff too quick though, it took me out of the gui for the error (i guess stoped the x server) Want to me reboot real quick
[11:47] <habeeb> shiryu: okie
[11:48] <troy_> hello, has anyone here compiled fst on ubuntu? i can't get it to compile with or without pthreads installed
[11:48] <patrick> psst: madman91 has no idea the costs!  A hotdog was $4.00 in 1980!  Imagine almost 30 years on!
[11:48] <Sampson> stefg: i can bring the error back up after this restart if ou want me to heh
[11:48] <stefg> Sampson: no... try hitting ctrl-alt-f7
[11:48] <CrossX> emet: no I got integrated card with my motherboard
[11:48] <madman91> patrick: so what?
[11:48] <chamunks> nickrud, i dont need it that detailed is there a way to dumb it down a little more for more common users
[11:48] <madman91> patrick: if you live there.. you work there.. you get their money
[11:48] <emet> CrossX: go into Terminal (Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal) and type this "lspci | grep -i sound"
[11:49] <ariane> i'm having some problems installing new softwares or even with updating the ones i already have. i try sudo apt-get install in a terminal and it tells me i have an error in my dkpg. what could it be?
[11:49] <CrossX> emet: point that the sound was heared in beta version of my u7.04 but after reinstall to full upgraded i dont have it
[11:49] <nickrud> chamunks, you could look at system-prefs-hardware information
[11:49] <CrossX> i get non infos
[11:49] <eantonoff> habeeb, removed "defaults" and it still does not want to unmount the volume :(
[11:49] <emet> did that command say anything
[11:50] <CrossX> emet: no
[11:50] <emet> ok try this
[11:50] <habeeb> try using the terminal eantonoff : sudo umount /dev/<whateveryourdevicenameis>
[11:50] <emet> CrossX: go into Terminal (Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal) and type this "lspci | grep -i audio"
[11:50] <chamunks> nickrud, too bad that doesent let me just print a hardware list sorta deal
[11:50] <CrossX> same here no command
[11:50] <troy_> can anyone tell me why pthreads don't work in ubuntu 7.04?
[11:50] <nickrud> chamunks, same info tho.
[11:51] <emet> ok just type "lspci" then
[11:51] <chamunks> nickrud, ok thanks a tonne i gotta jet
[11:51] <CrossX> huge infos
[11:51] <CrossX> need to view it >
[11:51] <emet> do this lspci | less
[11:51] <emet> and look for anything related to a sound card
[11:51] <eternaljoy> anytone here expeirneced in how Envy works?
[11:52] <GasBrander> hi all
[11:52] <habeeb> eantonoff: what happened?
[11:52] <eantonoff> habeeb, that way worked. guess previously did not cause in the gui i am not logged as root...
[11:52] <emet> that is a list of all your computer's hardware (PCI)
[11:52] <garryFre> Emet beat me to it.
[11:52] <habeeb> eantonoff: probably..
[11:52] <CrossX> bash: lscpi: polecenie nieodnalezione
[11:52] <CrossX> (END)
[11:52] <CrossX> [1] +  Stopped                 lscpi | less
[11:52] <eternaljoy> !envy
[11:52] <habeeb> now try a: sudo mount -a
[11:52] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[11:52] <CrossX> nieodnaleznione = not found
[11:52] <eantonoff> habeeb, also mount -a did not mounted it again so i guess problem is now solved. thanks man :)
[11:52] <habeeb> eantonoff: no problem.
[11:52] <emet> CrossX: type "fg"
[11:52] <troy_> can anyone tell me why pthreads don't work in ubuntu 7.04?
[11:52] <Sampson> stefg: Cntrl alt F7 worked! I changed the settings and rebooted and everything is good to go. Thanks VERY mcuh dude.
[11:53] <CrossX> fg and waiting
[11:53] <emet> nothing happened?
[11:53] <habeeb> need...more...tea.
[11:53] <stefg> Sampson: pheewww, another ubuntista saved :-)
[11:53] <Sampson> haha
[11:53] <emet> "| less" makes it easier to read a long list of things
[11:53] <troy_> mabey you can save me.. i need to compile fst for a vst plugin.. else i have to switch back to windows
[11:54] <habeeb> troy_: and you get an error?
[11:54] <emet> it should say your sound card in lspci, if it does not it is a BUG in Ubuntu
[11:54] <troy_> jfst.c:(.text+0x91c): undefined reference to `pthread_create'
[11:54] <troy_> after running make
[11:54] <habeeb> I don't know what fst or vst is, tho... I just wonder what kind of an error you get, troy_
[11:54] <habeeb> Let me check it.
[11:54] <troy_> and i tried to install pthreads
[11:54] <habeeb> fst.c:(.text+0x91c): undefined reference to `pthread_create'
[11:54] <habeeb> oh shit.. wrong paste.
[11:54] <emet> the only sound card I know of that ISN'T supported in Ubuntu is Creative Labs new one
[11:54] <GasBrander> Somebody Dutch?
[11:55] <garryFre> I ve had fiesty and it worked ok, but at Saturday's patch, the system started running so slow it took way over an hour to boot, and I had to restore to before the patch to fix it. The only difference seems to be the patch to new kernel
[11:55] <emet> so anything else is a bug
[11:55] <FalcoNn> morning
[11:55] <GasBrander> hi
[11:55] <stefg> !nl
[11:55] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[11:55] <GasBrander> midnight over here:p
[11:55] <GasBrander> ty
[11:55] <FalcoNn> heeh nice
[11:55] <garryFre> Then I dropped back to LTS with same drive, and it works ok, just fails after new feisty patch
[11:55] <tarzeau> anyone tried http://packages.debian.org/donkey-bolonkey yet?
[11:55] <purpzey> garryFre: I noticed both my machine took a little longer with the new patch, but I have had any problems of that nature.
[11:55] <troy_> garryFre: install lowlatency kernel
[11:56] <robot_> # join Reciclanet
[11:56] <patrick> emet, I usually just have to toss out any Creative crap soundblaster cards!  Most distros can't seem to run them! Have a big box of them, here.
[11:56] <habeeb> Sorry, for my short no-help troy_ , but I can't find something related in google, and unfortuantely I don't know what these packages are. Please, try finding someone more knowledgable :3
[11:56] <robot_> hola
[11:56] <emet> CrossX: so really there is three things (1) either your sound is somehow misconfigured/muted (most likely) (2) it is a bug (less likely) (3) you are using an unsupported card (very unlikely, as you said it worked)
[11:56] <garryFre> troy I'll try that.
[11:56] <ttmrichter> emet: I've never had a sound card built into a laptop that was supported by Ubuntu.
[11:56] <troy_> habeeb: info on the package is unrealtated.. i just need pthreads to work right
[11:56] <wastedfluid> hey guys;  i re-partitioned my swap drive.  It's still hda5.. but I can't hibernate.  It says try swapon -a; swapon -a returns in valid arguement.  any ideas?
[11:56] <ttmrichter> emet: There's lots of sound cards unsupported by Ubuntu.
[11:57] <riaal> how do I start a aplication from the terminal and then close the terminal and the aplication stay open (forgot)
[11:57] <emet> nt CrossX's card
[11:57] <usr_rob> hi, need a graphical ftp client which supports ssl, any suggestions, i have used gftp before, can't remember if it supports ftps thou
[11:57] <emet> it works
[11:57] <purpzey> riall: command &
[11:57] <robot_> hola
[11:57] <garryFre> I got  message that nvidia card gefarce 6800 driver not supported anymore.
[11:57] <richard_> the latest kernel update broke my wifi (atheros) and booting using the old kernel wont fix it :(
[11:57] <emet> ttmrichter: the only one I know if is from CREATIVE LABS FX CARD
[11:57] <habeeb> troy_: I still can't find any info about that error of yours. Sorry.
[11:58] <CrossX> ok card is integrated. system was installed 30 min ago. have no sound now but it was on beta ver. can i reconfigure my sound now?
[11:58] <ttmrichter> emet: Add any sound card in the Sony FX line and the SiS card on my current laptop then.
[11:58] <ttmrichter> emet: In both those cases I had to use an external sound card to get sound.
[11:58] <emet> well his card worked
[11:58] <emet> in beta version of ubuntu
[11:58] <emet> clearly it's supported
[11:59] <ttmrichter> emet: Just because *YOU* haven't heard of cards that don't work doesn't mean they don't exist.
[11:59] <riaal> please, how do I start a aplication from the terminal and then close the terminal and the aplication stay open? I know its really easy but I have forgot what terminal command is
[11:59] <habeeb> riaal: nohup command
[11:59] <stefg> !screen | riaal
[11:59] <ubotu> riaal: screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[11:59] <PriceChild> riaal, application &
[11:59] <garryFre> My unsupported card exists, casue I swatted a fly with it and it had the desired effect on the pest.
[11:59] <usr_rob> found: secureftp that supports ssl auth
[11:59] <troy_> 17:56 < purpzey> riall: command &
[12:00] <habeeb> PriceChild: won't that close the application after he closes the terminal?
[12:00] <PriceChild> habeeb, "shouldn't"
[12:00] <habeeb> yeah that..
[12:00] <purpzey> troy_: Maybe it was my bad, should have told him to run screen first.
[12:00] <antitab> shit, what was that enhanced dd clone again?
[12:00] <antitab> someone in here mentioned it
[12:00] <purpzey> !ohmy | antitab
[12:00] <stefg> PriceChild: FYI, if you gedit & and close the gnome-term gedit dies, too
[12:00] <ubotu> antitab: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:00] <riaal> habeeb, nohup wokes, cheers
[12:01] <antitab> sorry <:3c