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space_ninjabut12:15
athenaspace_ninja, far from it12:15
mhbfdoving: I wanted to try that as an alternative approach, thanks.12:15
fdovingmhb: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/Chroot#Launch_X_Applications_inside_the_chroot12:15
space_ninjathen which version of kde does the newest kubuntu have?12:15
athena3.5.612:15
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dwidmannathena: well, it has come a long way, gotta give it some credit there eh? Oh, and space_ninja, kde 3.5.7 is available though it's not in by default (it was released not so long ago, sometime after the 7.04 release)12:17
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mhbfdoving: the xhost +localhost approach didn't work either. Guess I have to test the ssh.12:17
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athenadwidmann, he just asked if it was done..12:18
athenaand it's not12:18
space_ninjaok12:18
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dwidmannThink the planned release is somewhere around november ...12:19
space_ninjaI'm going to download a iso, but what is alternate?12:19
athena^^12:19
athenaspace_ninja, alternate is the correct way to install Ubuntu/Kubuntu12:19
dwidmannathena: correct? They both work equally well, what makes you say it's more correct?12:20
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space_ninja:)12:20
athenadwidmann, it uses less memory, provides more options, and is less prone to failure12:20
space_ninjawhat's the real difference?12:20
dwidmannAgreed12:20
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athenameh, whatever works for you12:21
dwidmannspace_ninja: in one instance you get a full gui, which is both a good thing and a bad thing simultaneously, for the above listed reasons.12:21
dwidmannThen again, the live cd does make a good trusty rescue cd :)12:21
athenayeah, it's good to have both12:21
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dwidmannOr better yet, have the DVD, best of both worlds :)12:23
space_ninjaaha, so with alternate I boot the installation immediately, and with the other one I get inside a working environement12:23
space_ninjaor whatever you call it12:23
athenayes12:24
yknottspace_ninja: yes and with the livecd you have the option to install the livecd contents to the computer12:26
space_ninjayep12:26
Sannespace_ninja: another difference is, the alternate cd can be used as a software repository while the live cd can not.12:26
athena^^12:27
athenathe Live CD has about 2 packages on it. The Alternate has a full mirror of your install.12:27
dwidmannIn other words, you can't use the live cd for upgrading from one version to another12:27
athenanope12:27
yknottdwidmann: correct; you could install over the old version, using the livecd, but could not perform an upgrade using the livecd12:28
space_ninjaok12:28
space_ninjais there a direct connect program in kubuntu as default?12:28
athenadirect connect? as in DCC?12:28
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Daisuke_Idono12:29
Daisuke_Idoas in DC12:29
space_ninjaDC12:29
dwidmannI still hold my older hardly spoken of argument for the DVD. All of the advantages and none of the disadvantages :)12:29
Daisuke_Idospace_ninja: there isn't.12:29
space_ninjaok12:29
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Daisuke_Idobut there are clients availabel12:29
Daisuke_Idoavailable, even12:29
space_ninjabut what does the repository offers?12:29
space_ninjawhat's their names12:29
athenadwidmann, other than a massive download time?12:29
dwidmannathena: or a short wait for the post to get it to you, let someone else do the downloading for you12:29
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athenaoh... DC++12:30
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space_ninjaok nice12:30
athenaspace_ninja, um, no, DC++ isn't a program..12:31
space_ninjaaha12:31
Daisuke_IdoDC++ is a program12:31
athenawell, to be more accurate, it's not a Linux one12:31
space_ninja:D12:31
athenatry valknut12:31
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athenathere's also dcgui12:31
Daisuke_Idodc-qt12:32
Daisuke_Idobut i'd recommend valknut12:32
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space_ninjalast time I tried it, was a long time ago tho, it looked old and messy12:33
space_ninjaany improvements?12:33
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yknottso it saves the world now, give it a go12:33
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space_ninjaok12:34
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DrXOK geniuses, this ones been giving me a butt-kicking for the last 2 months:  how do I get a Xen VM guest manually Linux installer to see the source files via either Hard Disk, CD ROM or NFS share (they all work fine in the host OS)?12:36
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kilraeanyone know if there's a way to get two instances of Kate running at the same time (as the same user)12:36
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yknottother than clicking on its shortcut twice?12:37
kilraeyknott: second time just focuses the already open one12:37
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Sannekilrae: I can do it. I remember configuring something so it works... let me try to find it.12:38
yknottkilrae: not sure, it is not doing that for me; each time i click the shortcut it opens another12:39
yknottperhaps i too changed something12:39
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gianluca_ubuntu.it12:40
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gianluca_Ubuntu.it?12:40
gianluca_come faccio12:40
gianluca_?12:40
yknottgrazie12:40
Minataku!it | gianluca_12:40
ubotugianluca_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:40
Minataku:)12:40
markois there official channel for linux-gamers12:40
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Sannekilrae: I can't find it in kate settings, but I will continue to look. May take a minute though.12:43
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kilraeSanne: it's ok, I'll just use kate and quanta, practically the same as having two kates12:44
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gianluca_ubuntu-it12:46
gianluca_#ubuntu-it12:46
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tjl30does anyone know how I can change the name of my slave drive? Right now it is called /media/Extra_ but before it was /media/hd2 which is where my music player db thinks it is12:49
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Sannekilrae: on a related note, you can split the kate window for seeing two files side by side, maybe that helps for what you want to do.12:50
MinatakuAdd a static entry to /etc/fstab12:50
space_ninjacheck /etc/fstab and  ls /media12:51
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tjl30the fstab is the same as it used to be12:53
tjl30and the hd2 folder is still in media but there are no files in it12:53
MinatakuIt'll be there, yeah12:53
MinatakuIt's just a mount point12:53
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MinatakuA mount point is an empty (or even populated) folder12:54
MinatakuIt's contents are replaced with that of the device mounted there12:54
dwidmannkilrae: I have a way12:54
Minatakutjl30: Hm12:54
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dwidmannkilrae: pull up konsole and open a second tab while you're at it. In the first type oh, something like "kate --start new1", in the second tab use "kate --start new2", just give them a different session and all should be well12:55
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Sannekilrae: I believ I found it. Look at the command line that starts your kate. If kate is started with "kate -u" then it will open new documents in an existing kate already open. Take out the -u and you should be able to have multiple kate windows. See also: kate -h12:56
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Sanneworks also :)12:59
dwidmannbut of course12:59
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Sannedwidmann: but it works here also with just "kate file1.txt" and "kate file2.txt"01:00
dwidmannYes, never said you coudln't tack that on to the end, plus there's always the benefit of easily picking the session you want if you do it my way though (point I was trying to make, actually)01:01
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cindysalut01:02
MaTiAzKate is a nice editor :)01:02
cindyc est koi le site francais01:02
cindykubuntu franch01:02
Minataku!fr | cindy01:02
cindy?01:03
ubotucindy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:03
cindymerci01:03
Minatakunp01:03
Sannedwidmann: I must admit I don't know what --start actually does... will go read now. I didn't want to imply my way is better than yours, just complementing. :)01:03
cindycool01:03
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Sannedwidmann: I see now, start with a session... very useful, thanks.01:04
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DarkShockhi, I have a really weird problem here. On my user, I can't connect to http(s), pop3 connections. But if I launch konqueror as root, I can get http connection. Also IRC, Jabber, SVN works on my normal user01:08
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DarkShockusing Kubuntu Feisty, KDE 3.5.7 and kppp (dial-up connection)01:08
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Tired_How does Kubuntu handle hardware changes?  I'm thinking about replacing my GeForce FX 5200 with a GeForce 6600...will my system still boot after?01:12
daaaman64Tired_ yes01:12
daaaman64all that really matters is what driver is installed.01:12
Tired_Will I need to reo the drivers, or are the nvidia drivers sufficiently generic?01:12
LjLthe latter01:12
daaaman64Tired_ yes in this case01:12
Tired_:)01:12
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stanleyhi guys...everytime i try opening adep, an error message appears saying su returned with an error01:13
stanleyplz help me fix this01:13
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-Nop:#kubuntu- You have 1 new message. Type /server mail to read.01:14
PriceChildDON'T!!!01:14
PriceChildPlease no-one do that.01:14
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daaaman64PriceChild: why?01:14
gnomefreakhes starting to piss me off now01:14
gnomefreakdaaaman64: it will dissconnect you01:14
PriceChilddaaaman64, it will disconnect you :)01:14
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talonzzhey guys01:15
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talonzzwooohooo kubuntu and beryl roxxxxxxxxxxx01:15
daaaman64PriceChild, that is f'd up01:15
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LjLPriceChild: why? i just did it. opened a new server tab01:15
PriceChildLjL, not all clients open new tabs.01:15
LjLsane ones :P01:15
PriceChildLjL, irssi, xchat etc. don't01:15
PriceChildpfft :)01:15
PriceChildthat's what /connect is for :)01:15
K-RyanHey guys01:15
talonzzdudes i have a quick question on how to added beryl on startup can't seem to find the tab in kubuntu =(01:16
K-RyanI just popped "sudo apt-get upgrade" in my terminal01:16
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crdlb!autostart | talonzz01:16
ubotutalonzz: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.01:16
K-RyanBut I get "THe following packages have been kept back:" and it's all 5 of the packages that were to be upgraded01:16
stanleyyea...uhm guys01:16
K-RyanWhat's up stanley?01:16
stanleywhen i try opening adept is says su returned with an error k-ryan01:17
stanleyi dunno how to fix this01:17
K-Ryan!aptfix01:17
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:17
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K-RyanTry that01:17
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stanleyok01:17
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K-RyanAnyone know why when I try to upgrade the upgradable packages it holds all the upgrades back?01:18
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K-RyanThe packages are hal, linux-386, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-386, linux-restricted-modules-38601:19
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K-RyanAnyone else have that problem?01:20
crdlbK-Ryan, you shouldn't be using linux-386 on edgy or feisty01:21
K-RyanI don't know what it is01:21
crdlbyou should make sure you have linux-generic installed01:21
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crdlband remove all the -386 packages01:21
K-RyanDidn't have linux-generic01:22
K-RyanI haven't had any problems though...01:22
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mtvin terminal how to i check filesizes01:23
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JohnFluxmtv: ls -la  *01:24
JohnFluxmtv: well just:  ls -la01:24
K-Ryancrdlb: Are you sure? I'm getting some errors now01:24
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talonzz!autostart01:24
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.01:24
crdlb!generic01:24
ubotuBackground to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)01:24
mtvthank you01:25
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K-Ryancrdlb: I don't get it01:27
donhey can somebody help me01:27
K-Ryandon: I'm sure someone can help you, but you need to let us know what you need help with.01:27
doni have an Intel 815 grapphics card but Kubuntu recognizes it as a 810 and the resolution is 640 x 480 and it wont let me change it but I Know it can be changed on Windows01:28
donI can change it up to 1027x768 on Windows01:28
K-RyanYou're going to need to modify your xorg.conf01:28
K-RyanIt lists what resolutions are available for choosing.01:29
donI have no clue on how to do that01:29
donOkay..01:29
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K-RyanI figured, and that's alright. But there's more to it01:29
K-RyanWhich I'm not sure about, but I'm going to try to figure it out.01:29
donoik01:29
donok*01:29
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daaaman64don, have you posted in the forums at all?  I am not sure that your gonna solve this one easy over irc.  I would search and post on ubuntuforums.org01:30
daaaman64I am sure there is someone else in your situation.  Is this a laptop?01:30
donyes it is01:30
K-Ryandaaaman64: It's not that hard01:30
K-Ryandon: http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl01:30
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NightVVulfbefore I had thought that I was only having an issue with a external drive mounting. but it looks like my secondary internal no longer mounts with the system. the drive is part of the install. I'm thinking that when it failed to mount is the reason I have gotten some of the errors I have been dealing with.01:31
donalright, and what exactly do i do wiht that01:31
K-RyanGetting the information to fill that out might be a little tricky01:31
daaaman64don, I would just google the laptop's model number with the word feisty after that and you'll probably find a solution.01:31
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NightVVulfis there any reason a HD would stop mounting at startup? the drive seems to be working fine.01:31
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K-RyanNightVVulf: type sudo mount -a in your terminal and let me know what it says.01:32
K-Ryandon: Google your laptop for your monitor specs then fill out http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl01:32
K-RyanIt will give you the information you'll need to put in your xorg.conf01:32
Zeelothow do you search for a process?01:33
K-RyanWell you can use the search bar in ctrl+esc01:33
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Zeelotthank you01:34
K-RyanYou're welcome ;)01:34
NightVVulfK-Ryan: Terminal returns with nothing01:34
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K-RyanNightVVulf: What was the drive's name? ie /dev/hda1, etc.01:34
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bomberson of a beeswax01:35
K-RyanHmm?01:35
bomberi upgraded kubuntu01:35
K-RyanFrom and to?01:35
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NightVVulfK-Ryan: /dev/hdb101:35
Daisuke_Idobomber: this sounds like a good thing01:36
bomberand now i cant get the system to boot nongraphica01:36
K-RyanNightVVulf: what does sudo mount /dev/hdb1 return?01:36
bomberin theory Daisuke_Ido it always looks good on paper01:36
doni went onto google and typed in inspiron 2500 feisty and that didnt help01:37
NightVVulfK-Ryan: mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab01:37
DrXwhat type of filesystem (e.g., -t ext3) should i specify when mounting an LVM2 volume?01:37
K-Ryandon: Read my messages after what that other guy said.01:37
K-RyanNightVVulf: Alright, type in kdesu kate /etc/fstab01:38
donok i did and im still not sure of what to do01:38
K-RyanSorry guys, gotta go, ask for help in here though someone is bound to help.01:38
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NightVVulfdamn01:39
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DrXwhat does "Linux Native" translate to in a mount -t xxx command?01:44
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jacqueshi there01:47
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zoohouseHello everyone01:51
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ziemerhello01:53
carlosmsvholaaaaaaaaaaaa alguie habla espaol01:53
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carutsu_don have you tried ubuntu laptop? very nice place01:54
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zoohouseI haveing a weird problem. I am guessing that it is a problem with my video card but I want to see if anyone here might know more about it. I came back from vacationing and powered on my computer. The bios messages came up in a aqua green color. In other words everything that userd to be white is now a weird aqua green color. When I log into my os (kubuntu), the screen has a aqua green haze.. It's super weird. I know my LCD monitor isn't01:56
zoohousebusted because the monitor has an internal TV tuner and when I watch TV on it, the color is just fine. The problem is with the video feed from the computer. Is that the video card? What might be wrong?01:56
mcrandellois there a setting that I possibly messed up that would cause ark to not work when invoked from a zipfile on a webpage in konq?01:56
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mcrandellozoohouse: that sounds like what happens when you have a bad cable in a CRT01:57
zoohousereally?01:57
Minatakuzoohouse: Check the cable or the card01:57
mcrandellonot sure if one of the wires breaking inside the cable would cause aqua-green on an LCD tho01:57
MinatakuOne of the two is probably gonna be bad.01:58
zoohouseMinataku: i tried to tight it before. Let me try removing it and then reconnecting brb01:58
mcrandellozoohouse: probably not bad right at the plug but where the cable itself first bends01:58
mcrandelloif you can wiggle the cable and the color comes and goes then there's your culprit01:59
zoohouseyea, it's not the plug... :(01:59
zoohouseHow can that be fixed?01:59
carlosmsvsomebody speak in english?01:59
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Nukedchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libra01:59
Nukedries) not found. Please check your installation!01:59
mcrandelloif it's the cable it's fixed with a new cable01:59
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Minatakuzoohouse: I'm thinking your card could be bad01:59
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MinatakuTry another monitor if possible01:59
Nukedwhat do I install to satisfy that build dep?02:00
carlosmsvsomebody speak in english?02:00
carlosmsvsomebody speak in spanish02:00
MinatakuOr try that LCD on another computer02:00
BluesKajcarlosmsv, we all speak english here02:00
Nuked!es02:00
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:00
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carlosmsvsomebody speak in spanish02:00
zoohouseYea i am going to have to try it on another computer to see for sure02:00
carlosmsvthank you02:00
zoohouseok cool, thanks everyone02:00
mcrandellogl02:00
MinatakuIf the picture is good on a different system02:00
zoohousethen it's the card02:00
MinatakuThe first system has a bad or mis-seated card02:00
Nukedanyone able to answer my question?02:01
MinatakuPop it out and reseat it first02:01
zoohousegatcha02:01
MinatakuIf the problem persists, blame the card02:01
mcrandellomeantime anyone know why I can't download and open zipfiles with ark from konq?02:01
zoohousei hope it is that, a misseated card02:01
MinatakuI have a Sun Ultra 1 with a CG6 with the same problem02:01
mcrandelloit's not the cache, I have that turned on and this is a small zipfile02:01
zoohouseok thanks Minataku,02:01
Minatakuzoohouse: np02:01
NukedMinataku,  any chance you can help with my question?02:02
MinatakuNuked: Install Qt >=3.3 and <4.002:02
mcrandelloNuked: apt-cache search qt|grep dev02:02
Minataku!info qt02:02
ubotuPackage qt does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:02
Minataku!qt02:02
ubotuQt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications02:02
cloyetteI need to know how to configure my wireless connection02:03
Minataku!info libqt3-mt-dev02:03
ubotulibqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 47 kB, installed size 164 kB02:03
MinatakuYeah, you need that one there02:03
Nukedthanks alot minataku mcrandello02:03
mcrandellocloyette: type "knetworkmanager &"02:03
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cloyettewhere?02:03
MinatakuNuked: np02:04
mcrandelloat a konsole prompt...02:04
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zerozerois there a file somewhere where I can see all of the errors or issues that came up diurning a dist-upgrade?02:04
cloyetteok02:04
mcrandelloor click on the kde menu then hit "run command"02:04
jacquesit seems that getautomatix is down?02:04
LjL!automatix02:04
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe02:04
BluesKaj!WorksForMe02:05
hidan !WorksForMe02:05
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.02:05
Nukedminataku one more question... the kde headers package is what?02:05
jacqueswhat is WorksForMe02:06
mcrandelloNuked: pt-cache search kde|grep headers02:06
MinatakuNuked: No idea, sorry >.<02:06
mcrandelloerm *apt-cache02:06
Nukedmcrandello, I did that and its game headers02:06
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mcrandellocrap I just realized that one doesn't bring it up sorry02:07
Nukedmcrandello, do you know which it is?02:07
mcrandelloI'm guessing kde-devel02:07
Nukedsounds like a plan02:07
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K-RyanI'm back02:08
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mcrandello"apt-cache search kde|grep devel" lists all the development files one of them should have them02:08
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Nukedkde-devel is such a large package02:09
saHey guys02:09
K-RyanHi there sa02:09
saI cannot get my mousepad to work02:09
saanyone got any advice?02:10
K-RyanTouch pad on a laptop?02:10
sayes02:10
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K-RyanBecause mousepad is, never mind.02:10
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K-Ryan!touchpad02:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:11
sasorry, touch pad02:11
sahehe02:11
K-RyanHrmm02:11
K-RyanIt's okay =P02:11
redooHello02:11
K1765How do you bring up a process list?02:11
Nukedps ax02:11
K-RyanK1765: ctrl+esc02:11
JohnFluxK1765: ctrl+esc02:11
K-RyanHi redoo02:11
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K1765ty.02:11
K-Ryansa: I'm not sure, my friend's laptop never had a problem02:11
redooneed a little help with gaim02:11
sahmm02:11
saok02:11
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sai didnt have a problem on my old laptop either02:11
JohnFlux!synaptic02:12
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto02:12
K-RyanKeep asking around though sa02:12
Nukedredoo join #gaim02:12
saok, thank you02:12
JohnFluxsa: bah, look for synaptic02:12
redook thx02:12
JohnFluxsa: not the package manager, but the usual touchpad drivers02:12
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mcrandellosa also try the Fn key to turn it on/off once just to make sure that isn't it02:12
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samcranello02:14
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samcranello: just tried the fn key02:14
sanot it02:14
mcrandellok02:14
sajohnflux: where do I look for synaptic?02:15
K-RyanIt's in System02:15
sajohnflux: linux newbie :s02:15
K-RyanUnder the KDE Menu02:15
saK-ryan: ok, thank you02:15
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K-RyanNo problem02:15
K-RyanYou can use Synaptic or Adept02:15
K-RyanI prefer Adept myself, and when I know what I want to download I flat out use the terminal02:16
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sabrb02:16
K1765Could anyone tell me why my system froze up.. when i try a run a game?02:16
Nivuahcquick question: when creating a new user, how do I give them the ability to sudo other than adding them to the sudo group?02:16
BluesKajwhat are the advantages of using Aptitude to DL & Install apps ?02:17
K-RyanK1765: What game?02:17
K1765WoW02:17
pulaskihello02:17
K-RyanBluesKaj: I'm told it keeps track of dependencies and and removes them if the package is removed.02:17
K-RyanHi pulaski.02:17
K-RyanK1765: There's a Linux version? Or are you using Wine?02:17
K1765K-Ryan: It would work before I fixed my driver.. now it wont even load up02:17
K1765K-Ryan: Wine02:18
pulaskihello K-Ryan, thanks fo responding.02:18
K-RyanYou're welcome pulaski ;)02:18
BluesKajhmm, got mixed feelings about that K-Ryan02:18
K1765K-Ryan: It will act like it starts the game, but then it doesnt work it.02:18
K-RyanK1765: Have you tried #winehq ? I know they're not that helpful as a whole but there are people in there who help others.02:18
pulaskiI need to locate a channel where I can find out about tuning my nfs/samba network.02:18
K-RyanK1765: What do you mean by fixed your drivers?02:19
K-Ryan!samba02:19
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT02:19
K-RyanHrmm02:19
K-RyanTry #samba02:19
Daisuke_Idobring on the best MMORPG of all time...  Legend Of The Red Dragon :D02:19
K-RyanI think that's it02:19
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=== zerozero just did a dist-upgrade from edgy to feisty with no problems
K-RyanAwesome zerozero02:20
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Daisuke_Idozerozero: have you rebooted yet?02:20
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Daisuke_Ido(new kernel and all)02:20
pulaskiyes I use samba to connect my win2k side to my ubuntu file server.  I haven't had much time experiment with it once I was able to write to the drives.02:20
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=== BluesKaj hopes zerozero won't have to retract that statement :)
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Nivuahcthe only thing I'm left with is the sudo bit02:21
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zerozeroi just rebooted and I am still here so I think I am ok02:21
Nivuahcbut it only took me thre days to get here, so02:21
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pulaskihowever I us NFS to connect my kubuntu 7.04 desktop to my ubuntu 7.4 file server and it is extremely slow02:21
Nivuahcyay02:21
mcrandellodid sa come back with another nick?02:21
zerozeroi don't have lots of strange stuff on this box, just a basic install plus some programming stuff02:21
Daisuke_Idonot bad02:21
K1765K-Ryan: I installed the drivers.. had a lil trouble.. but believe i got them working now02:22
pulaskiI use a 2wire 4 port gateway and I wonder if my problem coulb be firewall related02:22
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K-RyanK1765: Anything else crash when trying to start it up?02:22
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K-RyanAnything requiring the drivers02:22
NivuahcAnyone: whenever I attempt to run an app that requires sudo through the menu, I get the following error: "Su returned with an error"02:22
pulaskidoesn't seem to be a #nfs channel on this server02:23
jamster545i need help, QTParted wont open... if you want the konsole output tell me02:23
K-Ryan!nfs02:23
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.02:23
K-RyanCan always try that I guess02:23
pulaskiok02:23
BluesKajpulaski, are you port forwarding thru a router ?02:23
K-RyanWhen in doubt, ask ubotu =P02:23
pulaskiI used that to set it up02:23
mcrandello!irda02:23
ubotuInformation about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto02:23
mcrandellohey whaddya know02:23
pulaskiyes I think so though I'm not exactly sure02:23
pulaskiBluesKaj02:24
pulaskithanks02:24
jamster545i need help! who can help me get QTParted to work???02:24
K1765K-Ryan: Nope, just cant load the game02:24
K-RyanTried a reinstall?02:24
K1765K-Ryan: God no, takes 4 hours lol02:24
pulaskiI have a "gateway" aka as a 2wire 4port router02:24
K1765K-Ryan: I guess i had02:24
K-RyanK1765: Four hours? How big is it!?02:24
K1765K-Ryan: lol its not 4 hours.. its like 30 minutes.. its 5gb+02:25
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K-RyanOh, okay02:25
K-RyanWell you might want to try that, I'm not particularly experienced with Wine so that's pretty much my only recommendation.02:25
jamster545i cant get QTParted to work! i pastebinned the output when i tried to use Konsole to open it. output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23188/02:26
K-Ryanjamster545: Tried Gparted?02:26
jamster545dont have it...02:26
pulaskiBluesKaj, I my gateway/router can "see" both the ips of my local machines02:26
K-Ryansudo apt-get install gparted02:26
BluesKajpulaski, 2 wire 4port ...pls explain , you have 2 pcs hooked up to router that has 4 port capability02:26
BluesKaj?02:26
K1765K-Ryan: Thanks for the help.. =)02:26
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pulaskiyes exactly02:26
jamster545QTParted worked until i installed some updates which removed it but then i reinstalled it02:26
K-RyanYou're welcome K1765, good luck.02:26
pulaskiBlueskaj02:26
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K-Ryanjamster545: You can always try GParted, I hear it's better and it's the only thing that worked for me.02:27
jamster545hold on02:27
pulaskithe 2wire 4port router/gateway also serves as a DSL modem02:27
K-RyanI'm not forcing you, but it's an option.02:27
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pulaskiI can admin thru a web interface where I can specifiy apps to pass through the firewall02:28
jamster545K-Ryan: i put in the command line but when i hit enter nothing happened02:28
=== AutoMatriX is greeting all the geeks
K-RyanAutoMatriX: Must you do that everytime you join?02:28
pulaskion either of my computers02:28
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BluesKajso have I , but we have nop probs with FWs on the router ...just make sur the required ports for whatever apps need them are open TCP and UDP02:28
BluesKajpulaski02:28
K-Ryanjamster545: It should of asked for your password02:28
K-Ryansudo apt-get install gparted02:28
jamster545i think i know why it didnt work02:29
pulaskithanks BluesKaj thats helpul02:29
NivuahcAnyone: whenever I attempt to run an app that requires sudo through the menu, I get the following error: "Su returned with an error" <-- anyone got any ideas?02:29
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AutoMatriXK-Ryan: dont know, is there an anti=politeness policy on this chanel ?02:29
jamster545i just needed a fresh shell to use, K-Ryan02:29
pulaskiI know nfs uses UDP02:29
K-Ryanjamster545: Ah02:29
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jamster545i used the shell for something earlier and it killed the one that was open02:29
K-RyanAutoMatriX: A greeting sure, to all the geeks? That's rather negative is it not?02:29
idefixxkde doesnt support ico, right? is there a converter or something like that?02:30
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pulaskibut I don't know  which port to use or how exactly I should set it up.02:30
AutoMatriXK-Ryan: I don't think a geek is something negative, but if you say so ...02:30
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BluesKajpulaski, I'm not a gamer , but i am familiar with port mapping and port forwarding due to my heavy use of torrent clients which like to use certain ports for traffic02:30
=== Nivuahc is especially fond of his geek loving wife
jamster545and GParted works on Kub?02:31
K-RyanAutoMatriX: I think it has a negative connotation, personally anyway.02:31
K-Ryanjamster545: Yes02:31
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mcrandelloidefixx: I found something from the wine project that would convert ico's to png's but that was a loooong time ago02:31
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BlueBird22 is there an easy guidance for a noob newbie to make lucent winmodem work on kubuntu ?02:31
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AutoMatriXK-Ryan: ok, whenever I say hello to the geeks, I'll let you out02:31
jamster545Nivuahc: how do you do those things where it is like narrating an action? i see ppl do them all the time02:31
idefixxmcrandello: hmm, will give it a try, thx.02:31
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Nivuahcjamster545: you type /me followed by the action02:32
sahey guys, back02:32
pulaskimy admin allows a bunch of named games to pass through the firewall by default BluesKaj and it will let me create custom apps to pass through the firewall.02:32
jamster545oh cool ty02:32
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mcrandelloidefixx: it was a native linux app. If you're already running wine I think irfanview will convert most any image format if you already have the ico's out of the executable02:32
=== jamster545 thanks Nivuahc
sajust updated and installed touchpad02:32
Nivuahcjamster545: no problemo :)02:32
K-RyanAutoMatriX: No, I understand that's not how you meant it and I don't mind, it's just it seemed like you were being a smart alec when coming into the support channel and saying that. That's how it came off to me, obviously it's not how you meant it, sorry =P02:32
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mcrandellosa: working okay/02:33
mcrandellosa:I mean working okay?02:33
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BluesKajpulaski, is the FW you speak of in the gateway or are there software FWs to deal with on various pcs as well ?02:33
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pulaskiBluesKaj, I've thought about establishing a "pin hole" through the firewall for the nfs app but I need to know the UDP port number02:33
K-RyanIt works jamster545?02:33
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AutoMatriXK-Ryan: never mind, I don't have brains enough to remind bad feelings :p02:33
Nivuahcsooooo.... enabling sudo for a user... one of lifes greatest mysteries02:33
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samcrandello: no02:33
pulaskijust on the gateway BluesKaj, thanks02:33
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K-Ryan=P02:34
samcrandello: i am trying to configure the touchpad and it says no driver installed02:34
K-RyanNivuahc: It happens02:34
mcrandellosa: http://pastebin.ca/520640 here is the section for my touchpad in /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:34
pulaskinone that I'm aware of on the file server or my compter02:34
bsundsrudNivuahc: it involves adding the user to either the sudoers group or the admin group. maybe both.02:34
samcrandello: ok, thank you02:34
Nivuahcbsundsrud: did that02:34
BluesKajok pulaski yes, knowing the UDP port #  is essential02:34
idefixxmcrandello: the gimp can open ico, too. but im actually looking for a tool that makes it into a xpm to keep the different sizes etc.02:34
bsundsrudcheck the /etc/sudoers file and look for any other restraints02:34
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Nivuahcbsundsrud: coolio, gonna give that a shot02:35
idefixxmcrandello: also i dont want to convert it 'by hand' everytime ;)02:35
bsundsrudcareful wiht it though, Nivuahc02:35
mcrandellosa: kubuntu should ship xorg with the synaptics driver and I think most laptops use /dev/psaux02:35
bsundsrudtkaebackups :D02:35
bsundsruder take backups02:35
bsundsruddamnedable space bar...02:35
mcrandelloidefixx: iirc I either had a batch process running with irfanview that would convert them to all the different sizes at the same time.02:36
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samcrandello: where do i add the lines?02:36
samcrandello: sorry, I am a linux newbi02:36
sae02:36
mcrandellosa: right above or right below whatever other mouse drivers you have in there02:36
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jamster545GOD DAMMIT! none of the root apps that ask for a password other than settings will work! not even adept upgrade!02:36
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Nivuahcbsundsrud: the only entry is this: root    ALL=(ALL) ALL02:37
pulaskiI have a linux/NFS HOWTO but which port numbers for UDP didn't jump out at me.  Perhaps I should look harder or BluesKaj if you know of another doc that would be helpfull\, I'd appreciate it.02:37
mcrandellojamster545: try running like "kdesu adept_updater" or whatever the command02:37
idefixxmcrandello: alright, sound good will give it a try. thx a bunch02:37
mcrandellogl!02:37
Nivuahcand, apparently, it has to be edited with the visudo command02:37
jamster545i need to get GParted to open too!02:37
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athenalol02:38
athenait's a script02:38
bsundsrudNivuahc: it doesnt, though they want you to.  visudo does syntax checking before it lets to exit.02:38
xGrantxwhat type of image does allegro handle natively on linux?02:38
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bsundsrudvisudo gives you a vi editor of the sudoers file.02:38
bsundsrudbut i hate vi02:38
cWolfevi never did anything to hurt you02:38
samcrandello: sorry for my stupid questions but where are the drivers?02:38
mcrandelloidefixx: if you have the time and the artistic bent I'd reccomend making svg icons with inkscape using the ico's as guides :)02:38
K-Ryanjamster545: type gparted in the terminal02:39
K-RyanOr pick it under KDE Menu > System02:39
mcrandellosa: the drivers should all pretty much come with xorg, there shouldn't be a need to install anything extra (except ATI or Nvidia video card drivers)02:39
jamster545maybe i aint logged into root...02:40
bsundsrudcWolfe: vi killed my dog.02:40
jamster545it was all like " Since GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction it may only be run in root"02:40
BluesKajpulaski, it's quite straightforward i think , if you can a get a manual for your router/gateway IP addy or address text , like my network or something , then it's quite simple to navigate to the port mapping page to set the ports.02:40
jamster545i need to log off for a minute so dont go anywhere!02:41
samcrandello: I am a bit lost, sorry!02:41
mcrandellojamster545: try sudo -i02:41
idefixxmcrandello: yeah i figured that.. why doesnt kde support ico files, why would i want layer less files to store icons?02:41
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pulaskiyes I have a manual for my gateway02:41
Nivuahcbsundsrud: thanks, that did the trick!02:41
pulaskiI have the IPs02:41
bsundsrudNivuahc: what did the trick?02:41
bsundsrudhaha02:42
idefixxmcrandello: rhetorical question btw ;)02:42
BluesKajwhat is your router pulaski02:42
pulaskiI have a portmapper on the server02:42
BluesKaj?02:42
mcrandelloidefixx: that I don't have an answer to. Perhaps there is a patent or copyright issue putting ico support in ;P02:42
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bsundsrudim oblivious help man! I'll help without realizing it!02:42
Nivuahcbsundsrud: I edited /etc/sudoers and edded an entry for moi02:42
bsundsrudok02:42
Nivuahcand erry-ting is a-okay02:42
pulaskiits called a 2wire 4port router model #1701HG Gateway BluesKaj02:42
pulaskiit has a web admin interface02:43
mcrandellosa: basically that little snippet of code should go into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. the "synaptic" driver it's asking for should already be there, ready to use I beleive02:43
BluesKajcool pulaski , as long as you can access it ... being at home i don't bother with a pw cuz wifey leaves that stuff to me02:43
pulaskipw?02:43
BluesKajpassword02:43
pulaskiok02:43
samcrandello: ok, that is what I needed to know. Where the code should be added02:43
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soulrider_lol, i was repairing a windows computer02:44
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soulrider_and windows update would make windows crash02:44
idefixxmcrandello: i know at least 2 other foss tools that support icons, but not that many if you think about it. i'll have to read up on that.02:44
MinatakuI have a password on all my machines02:44
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mcrandellosa: try typing "kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" from a konsole window or click the k menu then select "run command" and type it02:44
samcrandello: ok02:44
MinatakuWell, all the ones that'll take a password02:44
pulaskiok Bluekaj, between the gateway manual and the Linux/NFS HOWTO I should be able to solve my problem.  Thanks alot for your help BlueKaj..02:45
samcrandello: hmmm02:45
samcrandello: it is empty02:45
mcrandelloidefixx: I remember I used a couple of dodgy shareware type apps in wine a while back to rip every single ico in my wine inst. Then I zipped them and emailed them to myself so I wouldn't lose them ever02:45
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MinatakuSay02:45
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MinatakuDoes Windows still have MORICONS.DLL ?02:45
mcrandellosa: that definitely should not be empty02:46
sai got a message saying error something02:46
athenaMinataku, yes02:46
mcrandellosa: open a konsole, type kate /etc/X and then hit <tab> on the kb02:46
athenaslocate MORICONS.DLL: /windows/WINDOWS/system32/moricons.dll02:46
droachHas anyone tried that stupid "Tweak Ubuntu for speed" guide02:46
MinatakuHeehee02:46
MinatakuI remember that from back in Windows 3.102:47
BlueBird22 is there an easy guidance for a noob newbie to make lucent winmodem work on kubuntu ?02:47
samcrandello: ok02:47
mcrandelloreally though ico's are a horrible horrible image format that look like barbequed ass on a modern system02:47
Minataku!winmodem02:47
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto02:47
MinatakuNo, I don't, I want to know about winmodems02:47
MinatakuTHAT'S WHY I TYPED THAT02:47
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mcrandellosa: it should "reccomend" something or complete to /etc/X1102:47
MinatakuBlueBird22: If you're lucky, that'll help you02:47
BlueBird22Minataku i need an easy way.02:47
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zerozeroone could argue that winmodems never really did work02:48
MinatakuIf you're not, then sorry02:48
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idefixxmcrandello: i know cedega can grab and store icons from exe files - but only from inside its ui, no command tool. also i dont know how its stores them.02:48
samcrandello: i have xdg and xml to chose from02:48
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samcrandello: no xll02:48
mcrandellosa: capitol X02:48
Jamster545K-Ryan, i couldnt find my root account02:48
mcrandellorule one in unix-linux. CaPs CouNt02:48
droachanyone know any programming channels?02:49
Minatakuecks-one-one02:49
MinatakuX1102:49
Jamster545i think i am on it02:49
MinatakuJamster545: Is your username "jamie" ?02:49
samcrandello: hahaha, that was the problem...so sorry02:49
mcrandellonp :) we are all learners02:49
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mcrandelloonce you get into the xorg.conf file be very careful, one wrong letter can ruin your day.02:50
K-RyanJamie Schnaitter?02:50
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mcrandellosa: probably should also let you know the command should be "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" you can just copy/paste that from here and it should work02:51
mcrandelloif that doesn't work it's "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"02:51
samcrandello: ok02:51
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samcrandello: I as able to open the file by writing only kate02:52
mcrandelloneed to use sudo or kdesu then02:52
mcrandellosa: once you're in, look for the line "Configured Mouse" or something like that02:52
samcrandello ok02:52
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mcrandelloright after that section, below the line "EndSection" is where you paste that snippet02:53
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mcrandelloit's like html where everything has an opening and closing tag02:53
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K1765I try to install the driver, I do sudo sh etc.. and it loads.. it gets to the kernel source tree to install02:54
mcrandellobut before you make any changes I'd also reccomend saving it as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup02:54
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K1765and it says needs kernel source tree to install**02:54
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mcrandelloalways back up important files even if you know exactly what you're doing02:54
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K1765where can i get kernel source tree files >.>02:55
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mcrandelloK1765: sudo apt-get install linux-source02:55
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K1765tys02:55
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DRaGodarn middle mouse button keeps changing my nick02:55
K1765mcrandello: and thats all i have to do right?02:56
samcrandello: found the configured mouse02:56
sait is within one section02:56
mcrandelloK1765: should be. you might also need to sudo apt-get install build-essential02:56
K1765Got that already. Thanks!!02:56
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mcrandellosa: right after that EndSection start looking for something like what's in that pastebin page02:57
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mcrandellojust to make sure it isn't already in there. If it is then pasting it again probably won't help02:57
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saMcrandello: found it. it looks exactly the same02:59
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K-RyanHuh? What?02:59
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K1765Now it says: please install kernel source files03:00
jamster545i was here a minute ago, got D/C'd and stuff but before D/C you were like not responding to talk or pinging03:00
samcrandello: i restarted x after installing. Maybe I need to restart the whole computer?03:00
kerberosque ondas03:00
K-Ryanjamster545: I don't think your messages got through then, because I didn't get anything,.03:00
mcrandellosa: you should just be able to restart X and it should work03:00
samcrandello: hmm...let me try again...brb03:01
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kerberosalguien sabe como instalar ndiswapper03:01
xGrantxuh, are there known problems with the allegro keyboard input and linux? it doesn't seem to be working for me03:01
kerberosme marca error03:01
K1765mcrandello: Now it says please install kernel source files03:01
DRaGohow do i take my ip address of of the hostmask03:01
jamster545i couldnt get gparted to run in KDE or Konsole... what should i do... it said i need to be logged into root the exact wording was: " SInce GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction, you must be logged in a s root to use it03:02
K-RyanDid it really say that?03:02
K-RyanThat's great03:02
K-RyanTry kdesu gparted03:02
jamster545i know03:02
jamster545wtf?03:02
mcrandelloK1765: try running uname -r03:02
K-Ryankdesu is the command to run things as root03:02
jamster545u mean in console ok03:02
kerberosanybody help me?03:02
K-Ryankdesu for graphical programs, sudo for terminal related stuff03:03
K-RyanYes jamster54503:03
K1765mcrandello: sudo uname -r?03:03
mcrandelloK1765: actually just "uname -r"03:03
mcrandelloK1765: then apt-cache search linux-headers03:03
K17652.6.20-16-38603:03
jamster545it didnt work...03:03
jamster545do you want the output?03:04
K1765ok.. now.. should i retry?03:04
K-RyanHrmm, and it's not in System under KDE Menu?03:04
mcrandelloalright then "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.20-16-386 "03:04
mcrandellomaybe that will make it happy03:04
kerberosi cant install ndiswrapper03:04
K1765Hope so, this is pain ahha03:04
jamster545it is but when i tried to use it from there it wouldnt do anything after i entered mypassword03:04
K1765ok.. im going to retry. brb.03:04
K-RyanTry again03:04
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K-RyanMake sure the password is correct03:04
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jamster545still nothing03:05
jamster545hold on03:05
jamster545do you want the output from the one time?03:05
samcrandello: it worked but I had to restart the whole system03:05
mcrandellooh03:05
samcrandello: x was not enough03:05
mcrandellointeresting03:05
samcrandello: thanx for the help!03:06
mcrandellonp glad it worked03:06
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samcrandello: one last question: what is the difference between ATI and NVIDIA video cards?03:06
jamster545do you want the konsole output from when i tried kdesu?03:06
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samcrandello: and how do I know that my video card is working properly03:07
mcrandelloATI = a world of pain if you run linux, NVIDIA not so much03:07
K1765ok....... that worked, until it starting installing kernel modules then it said error lol03:07
samcrandello: i dont know what card I have, I think it is an ATI hehe03:07
dregorthmcrandello: and i thought it was the reverse just from seeing so many posts about that stuff in forums :P03:08
K1765mcrandello: It says now ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module.03:08
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jamster545OOH! i made it work!03:08
K1765mcrandello: Other than that.. it was working.03:08
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jamster545shoots*03:08
K1765off*03:08
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mcrandelloK1765: well you're a little farther03:08
K-RyanSorry again03:08
K-RyanI had to go afk for a minute there03:09
jamster545i fixed it03:09
mcrandello!ati03:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:09
K1765mcrandello: How do I delete the current kernel module i have installed?03:09
jamster545i typed in sudo gparted03:09
jamster545and it worked03:09
K-Ryansudo eh?03:09
K-RyanIs it running in the terminal?03:09
jamster545yep then it opened a graphical instance03:09
jamster545hold on03:09
mcrandelloK1765: is this one you installed from NVIDIA, or one that came with kubuntu?03:09
jamster545i typed it in and it loaded the files then opened a graphical window03:09
K-RyanStrange, kdesu is meant for graphical apps03:09
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K-RyanBut if it works, good03:10
jamster545well it was running in terminal then it opened a graphical window03:10
K1765mcrandello: NVIDIA, i believe.. I installed version 9755 first, now im trying to install version 877403:10
K-RyanCan you do what you need to do with it?03:10
sa!ati03:10
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:10
jamster545probably... havent tried03:10
K-RyanTry =P03:10
jamster545AFK03:10
mcrandelloK1765: I'm hesitant to give this advice, but what I wind up doing every time I install new drivers for my ati or a new kernel is this...03:10
mcrandellofirst switch to /lib/modules03:10
mcrandellothen find .|grep fglrx03:11
samcrandello: thanks alot! going to bed now. it is 3 in the morning where i am  :)03:11
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sagood night everyone!03:11
mcrandellosa np gl!03:11
K-RyanG'night sa03:11
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mcrandelloK1765: you'll need to substitute the name of your video modules instead of fglrx03:11
K-Ryanjamster545: You really like /me don't you?03:11
jamster545maybe03:11
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mcrandellothen I sudo rm them one by one, then install the new ones03:11
klobstermy new favorite error message:   "the03:12
klobsterThe program 'fglrxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:03:12
klobstersudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx03:12
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K-RyanI don't get it03:12
K-RyanI think I get it03:12
mcrandellonote that this is dangerous and probably not reccomended03:12
klobsteroops sorry I meant03:12
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klobsterThe program 'apt-get' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:03:13
klobstersudo apt-get install apt03:13
K-RyanHahahahahahaha03:13
K1765mcrandello: in konsole?? goto /lib/modules?? i dont see a .|grep fglrx03:13
K-RyanThat's not real is it?03:13
mcrandelloK1765: that's part of the command03:13
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K-RyanWhat did I do? I said kdesu it03:13
mcrandellofind . will find everything in that directory and all subdirs03:13
jamster545it wont let me resize or change my partitions03:13
miguelhi everyone...I need some help configuring my sound card. it's not detected03:13
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K-RyanThat's because they're mounted...03:13
mtvi am having issues with audio.  I am running dapper with Intel ICH5 audio card03:13
jamster545when i try to unmount them it says it cant03:14
klobsterI got the error msg, it was because of a bad fstab config, but I did get the error.03:14
savetheWorld!wiki03:14
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.03:14
mcrandello"find .|grep poo" will find everything but only display the items that have "poo" in the name or path03:14
K-Ryanklobster: That's like "No keyboard was detected, press any key to continue"03:14
jamster545lmao03:14
K-Ryanjamster545: What drive is it?03:14
mcrandellofatal error: success!03:14
K-RyanHeheh03:14
K1765mcrandello: so whats the command.. lol im a complete kubuntu noob03:14
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jamster545i only have one! it was like dev/sda03:15
mcrandelloin /lib/modules you type "find .|grep whateverthenameofyourdriverhere"03:15
jamster545During setup the mouse cant be used, click here to continue03:15
K-Ryanjamster545: Use the drop down box on the top right to switch HDDs03:16
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K-Ryanjamster545: That one makes sense believe it or not.03:16
jamster545it shows the right hard drive and partitions1 i only have one HDD anyway03:16
K-RyanOkay03:16
jamster545no mouse connected, click to continue03:16
K1765mcrandello: now what03:16
K-RyanThere you go =P03:16
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K-RyanOkay, if you're trying to resize something important and can't unmount it because it's so important you'll have to do it from a LiveCD03:17
jamster545no internet connection detected! connected to IRC03:17
jamster545oh!03:17
mcrandelloK1765: I'll reccomend the safe way: "sudo mv /path/to/driver/drivername /tmp" for each version of the nvidia driver you have03:17
K-RyanDon't get me started with Windows-bashing-Linux-quotes03:18
K-RyanErr03:18
jamster545do it do it!03:18
mcrandellomaybe write down where they came from in case the system goes pear shaped03:18
K-RyanLinux-bashing-Windows-quotes03:18
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jamster545i hear somebody's car alarm going off03:18
K1765mcrandello: now only if i knew where NVIDIA installed my drivers lol03:18
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mcrandelloK1765: I'd try getting the new ones installed first,then if it's still using the old ones worry about removing them03:19
Tired_where would one look to see if a particular piece of hardware s compatible with Kubuntu?03:19
mcrandellolinux is usually better about old drivers laying around than windows is03:19
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mcrandelloTired_: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/03:20
Tired_isn't tldp horrifically out o date?03:20
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mcrandellomaybe03:20
carutsu_mcrandello: agreed while windows will hardly work with older hardware, linux most likelly handle it03:20
mcrandellowhat hardware you worried about?03:21
mcrandelloit *is* copyrighted through 2007 so someone at least touched the page03:21
Tired_it's a Hauppage ATSC tv tuner card...the HVR-160003:21
DrXhow do I see which files contain a specific string?03:22
bsundsrudfgrep03:22
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K-Ryan!wine > jamster54503:22
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mrobinhola todos03:22
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bsundsrudguten abend03:23
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stanleyhi guys...i have a pretty big prob03:23
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DrXbsundsrud: so fgrep -R -F ":/dev/cdrom" / will list all files on the root partition that contain the quoted string literal?03:24
mtvwhat is the best method for upgrading to 7.04 from 6.0603:24
rolnyzxDrX, grep03:24
stanleyanything i try to open that needs root access says: "su has returned an error"03:24
stanleywhat could this be??03:24
DrXrolnyzx: grep just sez there's a match, but won't tell me which files match (stupid grep)03:24
mcrandelloTired_: signs point to no http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=273380403:24
rolnyzxDrX, flags03:24
Tired_Hmm.  Well, that saves me $100.  Thanks.03:25
bsundsrudDrX: i did fgrep 'somethingtosearchfor' -R <files> and it worked.03:25
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joedoc55stanley: did you set a root password?03:26
bsundsrudDrX:  if you search /, that will search every file currently mounted03:26
mcrandellostanley: are you running it like "su command"? try "sudo command" or "sudo -i" then run the command from the root prompt03:26
rolnyzxgrep -l string *03:26
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mcrandellostanley: or "kdesu command" if it's a kde program03:27
bsundsrudDrX: and when using fgrep, the -F is implied03:27
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mcrandelloanyone on here good with irda dongles?03:28
rolnyzxgrep -l string * , gives you filenames that contain the match03:28
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DrXbsundsrud: what did you put for <files>?03:28
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bsundsrudDrX: I was in ~ and did *03:29
bsundsrudbut you can do / if you really want to03:29
DrXI did * in ~ and it showed nothing but I just pulled the text from a file in /etc/...03:30
mcrandellognight all03:30
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DrXbsundsrud: how do i specify search all subdirectories?03:30
bsundsrudthe -R does it recursively03:31
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DrXbsundsrud: but it didn't find the file i just copied and pasted the text from on the / device03:31
bsundsrudhmm03:31
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K1765Anyone know why I get Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module. when i try to install driver03:32
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K1765NVIDIA.. always has to make this confusing.. and things that are a pain in the arse.. lol03:36
sparrktorrent only uploads while I am downloading, and then only a little.  what could cause that?03:37
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K1765I think everyone died03:38
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trakinashey03:39
dsmith_why do shell script icons remain blank?03:39
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K1765how do i run a .bin03:40
trakinasmy dvd pioneer isnt working properly... i tested on my mate's computer and it worked alone on the 2nd IDE with Cable Select, like it is now... but, it isnt work here in my computer. KDE Center says it is a CD-ROM drive (and in scsi...). It used to work on gentoo without any trouble - and it wasnt accessed through scsi.03:40
trakinasK1765: check if it has executable properties.03:41
K1765trakinas: yes it does, so how do I run it lol03:41
trakinasK1765: then ./name-of-the-app on the terminal. dont remember how to run out of the terminal03:41
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trakinas*working.03:42
rolnyzxtrakinas, weren't you the one who told me this morning his DVD drive wasn't the problem when receiving an IO error on mount?03:42
trakinasrolnyzx: no.. i did told you about the IO, but i didnt say it wasnt the problem.03:43
rick_ok I'm tired of googling and going through menu options.. I have an external task bar at the bottom and the main bar up top, how do i get my bottom external task bar to be only 1 menu item high? (right now it's double)03:43
trakinascuriously, his pc has windows only. it didnt work before i changed it to cable select.03:43
rick_i shrunk the size of the main bar which makes it only 1 level high for the main bar.. but it doesn't seem to apply to the external task bar03:44
K1765How do I run a .bin in terminal?03:44
trakinasK1765: one sec. Im not registered, cant reply u on pvt03:44
rick_K1 try ./nameoffile.bin03:44
trakinasrick_: he has troubles with permission03:45
rolnyzxtrakinas, do you have any live cd distro?03:45
K1765bash: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: Permission denied03:45
K1765bash: bash:: command not found03:45
trakinasK1765: ls -hl file.bin03:45
K1765kk03:45
rolnyzxwell of course, it's not gonna load03:45
trakinasrolnyzx: (k)ubuntu, Kurumin and gentoo.03:45
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trakinasbut Kurumin and (k)Ubuntu will mount it on scsi, since they are debian based, right?03:46
rick_oh ok then first chmod 755 file name03:46
trakinasK1765: you dont have permission to execute the file.03:47
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K1765michael@homepc:~$ ls -hl ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin03:47
K1765-rwxrwxrwx 1 michael michael 5.6M 2007-05-29 21:40 ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin03:47
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trakinasnow you should be able to run... lol03:47
trakinasrolnyzx: so... you asked me if i have a live distro. so??03:48
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rick_man this shouldn't be this difficult to figure out how to cahnge the height of this external task bar03:48
rolnyzxI was going to tell you to load the distro to see if it detects the DVD. But I guess it won't even load03:49
skunkhey got a question maybe you guys could help me with. no matter what i try, i cant get my ntfs partition to mount where users can access via konqueror. keeps saying they dont have permissions even when i add that user into the root group03:49
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trakinasrolnyzx: good idea! i will try to boot one.03:49
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trakinasrolnyzx: on the other tests, i tried booting through cd-rom and opening the dvd-rom03:50
K1765It says: Could not find an approptriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as an embedded player03:50
trakinas(2 drives, ofcourse. =P )03:50
K1765How can I change that?03:50
trakinasK1765: you should have helixplayer installed... that's why i always try mplayer real-mode. heheheh03:50
K1765sudo apt-get install helixplayer?03:51
trakinasK1765: i cannot help you since i never used real player gold in linux.03:51
trakinasin fact, not even in windows... always used alternatives... =P03:51
rick_wow i figured it out.. but that is definitely misleading.03:51
K1765well how do i get mplayer03:51
trakinasbrb03:51
trakinasK1765: like any other apps. but Im not sure if it will come with quicktime and real as default.03:52
intelikeyrick_ i just got here. may i ask what it was that was misleading?03:52
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trakinasbrb (for real...)03:52
rick_for those who care... if you shrink the main bar first then go 'add external bar' it ends up still double... but then if you go in and change the settings of the font size it works..03:52
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rick_the odd part is you might have your main font setting just how you want it..03:53
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rick_but you then have to mess with it just to get the external task bar size correct03:53
rick_that seems like a bug to me.03:53
intelikeyoh kicker dubblets...   yes many have complained about that.03:53
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rick_oh so they are aware of it.. that's good03:54
Jucatodouble? dubblets? O.o03:54
rick_you should be able to adjust them indempendently03:54
intelikeyrick_ yes i expect changes in the next release.03:54
rick_cool thanks for the update intelikey03:54
Jucatorick_: you added another panel (external taskbar), but modifying the size only affects the main panel?03:55
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dsmith_seems fiesty is running nicely, even installed the nvidia drivers with automatix203:56
rick_Jucato:  the steps were: I adjust main panel how i like it. (set tiny to size of icons). I then remove the task bar from main panel. Do add new external task bar and move it to bottom. the bottom one will now be double.03:56
rick_Jucato: the fix is to then mess with the settings again on the main bar.03:56
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trakinasa big hello from kubuntu live-cd booted from my DVD-R drive.03:58
trakinaswhich makes things more even bizzare03:58
Jucatorick_: or: add external taskbar, restart kicker (the panel) with the command "dcop kicker kicker restart". right-click on the external taskbar -> Configure External Taskbar -> go to the Arrangement options, select External taskbar from the dropdown list at the top. then adjust the size03:58
intelikeyor use blackbox   :)03:59
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Jucatoor just a plain Panel and add a Taskbar applet to it...04:00
Jucatoor...04:00
intelikeyor...04:00
trakinasfolks, this is really strange... why cant I copy a file from a dvd-r media but it does open the media and does boot kubutu?04:00
intelikeyand you can...04:00
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intelikeytrakinas copy to where ?04:01
jarnHow do I make it so NTFS partitions are mounted readable?04:01
jarnCurrently I have to sudo cd into them.04:01
trakinasintelikey: from the drive to the hdd04:01
intelikeytrakinas copy to where ?04:01
trakinasintelikey: my home folder04:01
intelikeyjarn mount -o ro,umask=00004:02
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jarnintelikey: Is there any way to make it so fstab does that?04:02
intelikeyjarn yes.   add those option04:02
palmdev13on-subject question: say you accidentally deleted fstab. is there an easy way to rebuild it?04:02
trakinasjarn configure it like anyother fstab entry.04:03
rick_ok thanks Jucato04:03
jarntrakinas: That doesn't work.04:03
intelikeytrakinas you or should i say "ubuntu" doesn't have permission to write to /media/hdd/home/<username>/   and shouldn't have.04:03
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jarnintelikey: Thanks! That worked great!04:03
trakinasjarn: what does not work? configuring NTFS partition with its properties like you do any thing on fstab?04:04
jarntrakinas: If you set the same options for an NTFS partition that you would for any other partition.04:04
intelikeygentilemen.  fs   not partition.04:05
intelikeypartition type is totally irrelevent.  fs (file system) type ie the thing in question.04:06
intelikeycall me pedantic but it does matter.04:06
trakinasintelikey: i beg your pardon. i meant ntfs filesystem. ?P04:06
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trakinasone sec. i will reboot and paste the output error here. brb04:06
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rick_also i guess this is a small gripe but shouldn't there be just a custom menu related to "just the external task bar" when i go and select "configure external task bar"04:07
rick_Jucato: i restarted it and it's still not really behaving that great.. it will accept tiny on the main bar but not ont he external task bar04:08
intelikeyrick_ no not really.  you are configuring kicker.  whether the main bar or additional bars it's still one app.04:08
jarnintelikey: Uh, it's not like people are saying that their partition is of type NTFS.04:08
jarnintelikey: That's like saying that "mp3 player" is wrong because it's a player that plays mp3s.04:09
Jucatorick_: are you sure you selected External Taskbar from the drop down list at the top?04:09
kalorinjarn, my mp3 player is wrong!04:09
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jarnkalorin: That's a shame. :P04:09
Jucatorick_: in the Settings for: option04:09
intelikeywell i don't have an mp3 player...04:09
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rick_yes04:10
rick_i selected new external task bar04:10
kalorinit's an ipod nano04:10
Jucatostrange.. it works here04:10
kalorinactually it's pretty nice04:10
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rick_and when i right click on it, i have the option "configure external taskbar"04:10
intelikeyok timmy what ya got ?04:10
Jucatorick_: yes. then go to the Arrangement page of the dialog box04:12
trakinasintelikey: says it wasnt possible to *read* the file04:12
rick_HA thanks04:12
rick_sheesh04:12
intelikeytrakinas pastebin the output of   mount04:12
rick_i'm an idiot04:12
rick_i never even saw that dropdown!04:12
Jucato:)04:12
rick_man that was drivign me nuts04:12
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rick_sorry i'm sure they were good04:13
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rick_have my wife harrassing me in the background about the house04:13
Jucatoheh :)04:13
MinatakuIt's ALWAYS the wife's fault :P04:13
kalorin`no04:13
rick_yea:)04:13
intelikey"if you make it idiot proof, they'll just make a better idiot"04:13
crimsununless you're the wife, and then it's always your husband's fault.04:13
kalorin`it's always the husbands fault04:13
kalorin`just ask them04:13
intelikeycrimsun yeah that.04:14
trakinasintelikey: output in portuguese??? rofl04:14
trakinasi mean, everything is in portuguese here. i guess it does not help to you, does it?04:14
rick_i'm trying to get her to switch to ubuntu.. she keeps complaining about her windows computer... she'd switch but she's really comfortable with photoshop elements04:14
intelikeywell how about.    LC-ALL=C mount04:15
rick_she'll be overwhelmed with the gimp04:15
trakinasintelikey: good one!04:15
intelikeyooops   LC_ALL mount     my bad.04:15
intelikeyhehe still bad aint it.04:16
intelikeyooops   LC_ALL=C mount     my bad.04:16
trakinasmount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only04:16
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intelikeyany way  the cotton picken dash is an underscore04:16
trakinasintelikey: no problem.04:16
intelikeytrakinas not mount blah      just plain mount04:17
intelikey LC_ALL=C mount04:17
trakinasah! sorry!!04:17
intelikeyso i can see how it mounted.04:17
trakinas /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro)04:17
intelikeyok nothing that should object to users reading that....  hmmmm.04:17
intelikeyand if you    ls /media/cdrom0             it lists files/dirs04:18
intelikey?04:18
trakinasintelikey: when KDE auto-mounts it: /dev/scd0 on /media/disk type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8)04:18
trakinas-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 849M 2007-05-28 17:07 /media/cdrom0/entrevista.avi04:19
intelikeyok nothing in the perms that would keep you from reading it04:19
intelikeyecho $UID04:19
trakinas100004:20
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intelikeywell that consistant....   hmmmm.04:20
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intelikeyand    ls /media/disk       you can't read ?04:21
trakinasweird -> cp: cannot create regular file `/home/timmy/entrevistaavi': Permission denied04:21
intelikeythere's your problem.  not reading the disk   but writing to your home.04:21
trakinasintelikey: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 890110004 2007-05-28 17:0704:21
trakinasintelikey: yep. but look...04:22
trakinasi can create a file on vi...04:22
intelikeyand ?04:22
intelikeyyou need write permission04:22
trakinasi can... no permission denied...04:22
trakinasi meant...04:22
intelikeysudo chmod 755 ~/04:23
trakinastimmy@wintermute:~$ vi test.txt does not give any wrong msg04:23
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intelikeyok then lets look a little closer at the error.    ls -l /home/timmy/entrevistaavi04:24
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trakinas-r-xr-xr-x 1 timmy timmy 65536 2007-05-29 23:12 entrevista.avi04:24
intelikeycan't write that04:25
intelikeyno write perms.04:25
intelikeyread/exec   but no write04:25
trakinasbut this is the file copied from the dvd-r...04:25
intelikeychmod 644 /home/timmy/entrevistaavi04:25
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intelikeychmod 644 /home/timmy/entrevista.avi04:26
intelikeyas case may be.04:26
trakinasintelikey: done... now?04:26
intelikeynow you have write permission there.04:26
trakinasintelikey: wow!!! cp: reading `/media/cdrom0/timmy.avi': Input/output error04:27
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intelikeyis it still mounted there or did you remount it on /media/disk     seems like you mentioned that.04:28
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trakinasintelikey: unmounted... for sure!04:29
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intelikeywb Jucato04:29
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trakinassame thing! i will pastebin it. one sec...04:30
Jucatothanks04:30
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AmyRoseWhy is my hard drive /dev/hda again after the last kernel update?04:31
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trakinasintelikey: http://pastebin.ca/52099604:33
intelikeytrakinas also as per you statement "but this is the file copied from the dvd-r"  cp will default to using the umask set for your account   but there are switches that cause cp to "preserve ownership/attrabutes"  which is undesireable when copying from cd drives in most cases.04:33
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trakinasintelikey: hmmmm... so, how should I copy it? I mean, any special flag?04:34
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trakinasgosh! just now i noticed we are in freenode. :P04:35
intelikey`/home/timmy/timmy.avi': Permissao negada  <<<< same problemo as per other file.  no?     same solution.   chmod 64404:36
trakinason the drive?04:36
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intelikeytrakinas cp also has switch. " -f, --force "    you can use in such cases.04:38
intelikeytrakinas man cp     for details04:38
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trakinasok!04:38
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intelikeyany other issues for the moment ?    if not i'll be idleing about.   but busy.04:39
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intelikeytrakinas one other note.   FFR & FYI  dirs. have to be executed.  if you do something like   chmod 644 ~/*   you must chmod to 755 or some other executable value the dirs or you can't cd into them nor use anything in their sub-dirs.04:42
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MinatakuYeah04:42
intelikeyjust thought you might want to know, before you broke something and wondered why.04:43
MinatakuDirectories must have execute permission to be traveresd into04:43
Minataku*traversed04:43
trakinasintelikey: is there any ls command to check directories permitions?04:43
Minatakuls -la04:43
MinatakuWell, ls -l04:43
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MinatakuSorry, habit X304:43
intelikeyls -ld04:43
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trakinasdub! heheehe04:43
intelikeythe -d switch shows the dir   without it you get the content there of.04:44
trakinas755 is: read write execute and read write, yes?04:45
intelikeyexample.   ls -l ~/Desktop      then  ls -ld ~/Desktop04:45
trakinasintelikey: yep! but is so obvious to use -d... heheheh.04:45
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trakinasyep1 ive just never used ls for dirs, only files. ;] 04:46
intelikeynumeric binarry perms.     111 = 7   read,write,exec04:46
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jarnWhat are good web browsers other than Konqueror and Firefox? Both of them give me problems.04:46
trakinasyep... i juts never now it values...04:46
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trakinaslike, chmod 777 are the sum of the values for right, read and execute.04:47
kalorin`jarn04:47
kalorin`use IE04:47
MinatakuRead, Write, Execute04:47
intelikeyfirst octet is owner   second is group   third is other    755 = 111,101,101 = rwx,r-x,r-x04:47
Minataku4, 2, 104:47
kalorin`<--- though I personally do not04:47
jarnkalorin`: Ehh... I'd rather not, thanks. :P04:47
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trakinaswhen i list files or dir, it shows rwx, no numbers.04:47
MinatakuIt's binary weight04:47
kalorin`you can use IE under linux04:47
trakinasMinataku: thanks04:47
Minatakunp04:47
kalorin`there's an IE for linux version out04:48
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kalorin`!ie04:48
ubotuFor Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort04:48
trakinasjarn: Opera04:48
Minatakur has a weight of 4, w has a weight of 2, x has a weight of 104:48
jarnkalorin`: I know you can. That doesn't mean I want to use it.04:48
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intelikeythere are  10 kinds of people in the world.     those that understand binarry and those that dont.04:48
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hitmanWillyjarn: there's always vanilla mozilla (aka seamonkey)04:49
trakinasmost dirs are 761..04:49
trakinasops04:49
intelikeynot likely04:49
trakinasmy mistake04:49
trakinas75504:49
intelikeyyep04:50
trakinasrwxr-xr-x04:50
intelikeyyou got it.04:50
jarnhitmanWilly: I'll take a look at that.04:50
trakinashehe.04:50
MinatakuHere's the test04:50
jarnintelikey: No matter how many times I see that, I never stop loving it.04:50
intelikey:)04:50
titanix88hendaus: :)04:50
Minatakutrakinas: Translate 35104:50
Minataku:304:50
trakinasMinataku: where?04:51
trakinasmy nickname?04:51
Minatakutrakinas: No04:51
trakinashheheeeh04:51
MinatakuHalf-messing with you04:51
trakinaswhat you meant with 351?04:51
trakinasahhhhhh04:51
MinatakuI wanted you to tell me what permissions 351 was04:51
trakinasone sec04:51
intelikeytimes up.   answer was   -wxr-x--x04:51
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trakinasrx-xr-r04:52
trakinasops04:52
trakinasrx-xr-x04:52
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trakinasand wx04:52
intelikey answer was   -wxr-x--x04:53
trakinasalmost.04:53
Minatakutrakinas: You'll get it04:53
MinatakuI did.04:53
Minataku^^04:53
trakinasheheh.04:53
MinatakuAlternately, you can use symbolic notation04:53
trakinasyep04:53
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trakinasmuch more easier04:53
intelikeyMinataku what's 1777  ?04:53
Minatakutrakinas: "man chmod" will tell you loads :304:53
trakinaschmod +xrw04:53
trakinasheuehu04:53
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Gravity_Reignsanybody run across a problem where not even root can modify permissions on a drive?04:53
Minatakuintelikey: I think that's SUID04:54
trakinas+xrw = 77704:54
intelikeyMinataku see your  /tmp for clues  :)04:54
trakinasGravity_Reigns: you mean, 111?04:54
trakinas=P04:54
trakinasor 44404:54
Gravity_Reignswell, i didnt set it to that04:54
MinatakuI love the flashing red/bold-white for broken symbolic links04:54
Gravity_Reignsi even tried to set it to 777 and even logged in as root and changed it via gui, still saying it failed to change permissions =P04:54
intelikeyMinataku it is   i just wondered if you could blurt out the lettering  :)04:55
trakinasGravity_Reigns: of course not. i didnt say so. sorry04:55
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Minatakurwxrwxrwt04:55
MinatakuHaha04:55
intelikey:)04:55
intelikeyok i'm out for a bit,04:55
Gravity_Reignseven if i log into kde as root and try to change the permissions by hand, konqueror gives an error saying it couldnt change permissions for /media/vault04:56
jarnOkay, it turns out the problem I was having was not the browser but the website.04:56
trakinashttp://pastebin.ca/52104804:56
MinatakuMost of the crap in my /tmp is -rw-------04:56
intelikeyGravity_Reigns there is no permission on the M$ file systems.04:56
Minataku600 X304:56
Gravity_Reignshm. when my user account tries to go into it it says "you do not have enough permissions to access this file"04:57
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MinatakuCheck the user account is allowed access to the dir04:57
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hitmanWillyi think you have to use umask on ntfs/fat file systems04:57
intelikeyGravity_Reigns mount assigns a psuedo permsiions bit for the fs    man mount   and note the part about special options for specific file systems04:57
trakinasat least your dvd drive dont switch from "permission denied" to "io error"04:58
MinatakuI know I fixed that on my system by just having my user own the mount points04:58
MinatakuSince it's a 1.5 user system04:58
MinatakuMe and root04:58
MinatakuX304:58
Gravity_Reignsyah x304:58
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intelikeyGravity_Reigns short answer   sudo mount -o remount,umask=000,ro /media/vault04:58
MinatakuThey used to be FAT32, they're reiserfs now04:59
MinatakuHave been for a while04:59
MinatakuPlan to make backups then change it to ext304:59
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trakinasAHHHHHHH! I love dmesg... more out puts for our joy!05:00
intelikeytrakinas you like that ?        cat /var/log/*05:01
trakinasintelikey: http://pastebin.ca/52105905:01
trakinasintelikey: ha! do you think that i dont know what cat is for and what is going to happen if i do that? ;] 05:02
intelikeyyou'll see "more out puts for our joy!"05:03
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trakinasintelikey: i know! cat reads the content of a file. that will show enything in the log dir.05:04
trakinas;] 05:04
trakinasi didnt skip the cat class yestarday. hooray!05:04
trakinas:P05:04
intelikeyagain i voice my protest at line 17 of your pastebin.05:04
trakinasdrwxr-xr-x   7 root root 4,0K 2007-05-29 02:45 /root this?05:05
intelikey /root should not need to be world accessable.05:05
intelikeykdm does that to you.05:05
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trakinasso, that would be causing the trouble?05:05
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intelikeytrakinas no.  i'm just venting a protest.05:06
trakinasheheehehe05:06
trakinasdude, Im afraid my drive is screwed. :/05:07
intelikeytrakinas it does look like something wrong with the disk or a problem with the kernel and it's scsi emulation.05:07
intelikeycan you try another kernel ?05:08
trakinasintelikey: i was going to point that.. i mean, why kubuntu uses scsi emulation?05:08
intelikeyand can you try another disk ?05:08
trakinasintelikey: one similar to gentoo kernel? sure! :D05:08
trakinasjk!05:08
intelikeygentoo kernel would be fine with me.05:08
trakinasis just that it used to work on gentoo, and it didnt use scsi emulation05:08
trakinasintelikey: i was loving gentoo, but after a year.. i got tired emerge -av package05:09
trakinas:/05:09
intelikeyexactly.   i have found one bug   with scsi emulation and real scsi devices    there may be others.05:09
trakinasso, which kernel would you recomend?05:09
MinatakuCustom05:10
MinatakuAnd if it's really a problem, file a bug report05:10
intelikeycheck the package manager and see what is handy.     or roll your own.05:10
intelikeymight install a 2.4 kernel just to test then if it is in the kernel   do file a bug on it.05:11
trakinasokay! i will do that (not tomorrow, for sure.. need to finish some college works 1st)05:11
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intelikeyit seems that scsi emulation is a good idea if you don't have any scsi devices...    but i do!05:12
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archaeopteryxhi, the following problem: downloaded feisty live-cd, tried to install, but no partitions in step 4, so took the oem version05:12
trakinasintelikey: just to be quite sure - install a 2.4 kernel, try mounting it via scsi emulation and fill up a bug report if everything goes wrong?05:12
archaeopteryxthen grub install failed and i took lilo05:13
trakinasbrb05:13
archaeopteryxbut it ignores the primary partition with win xp. is there a way to choose on startup?05:13
intelikeytrakinas try without scsi emulation and with     if w/scsi-emu you have the same problem  that's the problem   (assuming you don't have issues without it.)05:14
archaeopteryxalso, boot cds seem to be ignored05:14
intelikeytrakinas if you have issues without scsi-emulation on other kernels then that's obviously not the cause.05:14
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intelikeysimple logic   and process of elimination05:15
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intelikeyE-limon-nation05:15
intelikeylemon ?05:16
intelikeywhat ever.05:16
intelikeytwo m's maybe05:16
intelikeynot my language, i just twist to suit my needs.05:16
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intelikeyarchaeopteryx you can add an entry in your /etc/lilo.conf05:17
intelikeyarchaeopteryx here's an example.  note the part about hdc1  that's a windows segment    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3694805:18
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intelikeyarchaeopteryx oh sorry. not in that post let me find it again....05:20
archaeopteryxintelikey: thank you05:20
intelikeyah  there is an example in    man lilo.conf05:20
intelikeyarchaeopteryx ^05:20
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archaeopteryxthx05:21
intelikeyarchaeopteryx the   other=/dev/hda3   would work nicely   just change to the correct device.05:21
intelikeyif you have trubble with it i'll be about.05:22
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trakinasintelikey: just one last question before i log out... makemenuconfig is possibe under ubuntu?05:25
intelikeyyes     gtk is needed but yes.05:25
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intelikeyerr no not gtk   ncurses05:26
intelikeysorry.05:26
trakinasintelikey: ahhhhhh! i heeheheh.05:26
trakinasokay then.05:26
trakinashave to go now. cheers!05:26
intelikeyshalom05:26
trakinasthank you! :] 05:26
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intelikeywhat's up doc ?05:32
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dr_willisWatching some TV. :)05:33
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rollerskatejammswhats the difference between the kubuntu cd and dvd05:33
rollerskatejammsthe dvd just  contains more packages that i can apt-get off of it?05:33
intelikeya buck two ninty five on sunday.05:33
dr_willisdvd has live cd + alt instgall (i think)   and some extra packages05:34
MinatakuHeya, dr_willis05:34
MinatakuMissed you yesterday/this morning/whenever it was05:34
dr_willishay Minataku05:34
MinatakuWhat's up?05:34
dr_willisI got 3 amigas, 1 cd32, but only 1 working Power supply.05:34
dr_willisgot 2 dead amiga PS's05:34
intelikeyyeah that's about all.  the installers and the extra packages that you can't use cause updates are out and apt will always get the newest05:34
MinatakuHeh05:34
MinatakuOne working is fine05:34
dr_willisyou can convert a PC PS to amiga. if ya know what you are doing/research it.05:34
Minatakudr_willis: Comp Eng Tech05:34
MinatakuI know what I'm doing and definitely can :D05:35
dr_willisSucks i cant find the CD32 PS. it not identical to the others.05:35
Minatakudr_willis: What models, if I may ask?05:35
dr_willisI was wantiong to keep one amiga for myself. they are all A1200's05:35
dr_willisbut i aint got much even for one.05:35
MinatakuNot bad05:35
MinatakuHeh, you could keep the CD3205:35
dr_willisone has a expansion/cpu/mem/05:35
MinatakuThat was more of a console05:35
Minatakudr_willis: Ooooh, sweet05:36
dr_willisI dont need it either. the cd32 i got has the expansion unit that turns it into a real amiga + CD drive05:36
dr_willisin some ways its nicer then a a1200 - you can make a bootable cd real easy05:36
MinatakuAh, kickass05:36
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MinatakuOkay, sure, if you don't want any of them I'll take them all :D05:36
dr_willisBUT that expansion was so flakey. ya baciaially have to connect it and hot glue the thing down to a  board.05:36
dr_willisheh. yea - tracking down some box's and some bubblewrap05:37
MinatakuHeehee05:37
MinatakuSweet :D05:37
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MinatakuI've been known to use multiple systems to upgrade other ones, after all05:38
MinatakuThat's how I upgraded the Macintosh Classic05:38
MinatakuI happened to have a few non-parity 1MB 30 pin SIMMs05:38
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intelikeyMinataku & dr_willis nothing happening in here right now.  i'm gonna leave it with you for a while.  toodles.05:40
hitmanWillyhey, dr_willis, just found a 1200 PS on ebay :) http://cgi.ebay.com/AMIGA-500-600-1200-POWER-SUPPLY_W0QQitemZ180122696787QQihZ008QQcategoryZ4598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem05:40
dr_willisThere ya go.05:40
hakaisouthat's a beefy supply05:40
MinatakuHeehee05:40
dr_willisyou cn convert some wires on a normal PC PS. i recall.. but that may of been only with older AT's05:41
Minatakudr_willis: Even if, I've got sources for various PSs05:41
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hakaisouwhat do you need that thing for?05:41
MinatakuPlus I have the knowledge to even build one05:41
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hakaisourebuilding an amiga?05:41
dr_willisgetting that lame conector for the amiga is the hard part.05:41
Minatakudr_willis: Heh, IIAF, soldering iron05:41
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MinatakuOne working PSU is plenty anyway05:42
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MinatakuATM, I have one 24/7 system05:42
vecinaplease tell me that being on ubuntu does not mean i cant view Youtube.05:42
MinatakuThe rest are all momentary05:42
hendaustitanix88:  :)05:42
Daisuke_Idovecina: no, it doesn't mean that05:42
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hitmanWillyvecina: you just need flash05:43
Minatakuvecina: YouTube, CourtTV RED, all good to do05:43
Minataku*go05:43
vecinaDaisuke_ido  well every video just looks like its finished instyead of playing05:43
MinatakuJust grab Flash 9 and you're good for them and more, like Adult Swim Video05:43
vecinaoh ok05:43
vecinathanks.05:43
Minatakunp05:43
Daisuke_Idoyou can either install flashplugin-nonfree from the repos, or install from adobe's site05:43
titanix88hendaus: pkot made u working?05:43
hendausno :(05:44
vecinai cant find that in the repos. ill have to go to the site05:44
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kgxanyone knows if there are console color schemes proven to be easier on the eyes?05:47
Daisuke_Idosince everyone's eyes are different, i'm guessing no.05:47
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vecinaHey, its me, about the flash thing....05:47
marcelolanyone here able to get the nv-glx package to install........?05:47
vecinadid i mention im on amd 64 architecture? :(05:48
marcelolon my system it says that the driver and the kernel package are different builds...05:48
marcelolexcept I can't see where to dl a newer kernel packge in adept05:48
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marcelolnv-glx  9631.....kernel driver 7xxx ( can't remember the rest of the numbers )05:48
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marcelolany ideas anyone ?05:49
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crdlbmarcelol, linux-restricted-modules includes all three versions05:50
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crdlband the right one is supposed to be chosen at boot05:50
crdlbhowever it's been known to screw up05:50
marceloljust put in "linux-restricted-modules" in adepts filter ?05:50
crdlbno05:50
crdlbeverything you need /is/ installed05:51
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marcelolHmmm...05:51
crdlbyou just need to force l-r-m to use the right version05:51
marcelolnv-glx didn't get installed by default05:51
crdlbbut you installed it05:51
Daisuke_Idonvidia-glx?05:51
crdlbin /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common05:51
marcelollet me take a look05:52
crdlbset: DISABLED_MODULES="nvidia_legacy nvidia_new"05:52
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naught101anyone know if it's possible to take a screenshot in kubuntu /including the mouse cursor/?05:53
marcelolok...added that05:53
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marceloladept says that none of those packages are even installed though05:53
crdlbmarcelol, they have to be05:53
wolferinenaught101, um sure you can05:53
wolferineprintscreen?05:53
crdlbotherwise 7184 wouldn't have been installed05:53
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MinatakuI know in A/UX (at least 3.1.1) you can take screenshots with Shift+Pretzel+305:54
MinatakuBut that doesn't help you at all05:54
MinatakuXD05:54
MinatakuSorry X305:54
naught101wolferine: it doesn't usually include the mouse cursor05:54
MinatakuOh, snap05:54
marcelolthe only one that shows it's installed is nvidia-kernel-common05:54
MinatakuI know one way05:55
MinatakuThere's a program that dumps the contents of the framebuffer05:55
MinatakuLemme look it up05:55
crdlbmarcelol, is linux-generic installed? and nvidia-glx ?05:55
marcelolnvidia-glx...no...let me see if linux-generic is05:55
MinatakuIt's a program called "fbdump"05:56
crdlbnot a huge fan of adept so: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic05:56
MinatakuYou may have to find and compile it by source05:56
Minataku!search fbdump05:56
ubotuFound:05:56
Minataku<.<05:56
marcelollinux-generic wasn't installed either05:56
crdlb!info fbdump05:56
Minataku!info fbdump05:56
marcelolso..install both ?05:56
ubotuPackage fbdump does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:56
MinatakuI swear, that bot is getting dumber and dumber05:56
hitmanWillywow, that's cool XD05:56
naught101hehe05:56
crdlbmarcelol, yes and use apt-get05:56
naught101cheers, gotta go05:57
MinatakuLater05:57
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crdlb!find fbdump05:57
ubotuFile fbdump found in libdirectfb-bin05:57
crdlb!info libdirectfb-bin05:57
ubotulibdirectfb-bin: direct frame buffer graphics - binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.25.1-5ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 140 kB05:58
MinatakuDoesn't quite seem right05:58
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marcelolcrdlib should I also install linux-restricted-modules ?05:59
crdlbmarcelol, linux-generic will05:59
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marcelolahh..gotcha06:00
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marcelolprocessing.....looks like it's going to pull down 2.6.20.5-16 ...06:02
newguyWhat is the most current kernel version?06:02
hitmanWillynewguy: 2.6.20-16 in the repos06:02
marcelolok...so linux-generic is yanking down the latest released kernel06:02
newguyI have something 2.6.11 that's edgy eft, right?06:03
hitmanWillynewguy: yeah, probably06:03
crdlbnewguy, 2.6.17 is edgy06:03
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marcelolI thought 11 was DD06:03
crdlb15 was DD06:03
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hitmanWillywas hoary even a 2.6 kernel?06:04
Minataku2.6.21.3 is Linux current06:04
marceloldamn....man is up with his kernel numbers....in words of the great Bender Bending Rodriguez...we're not worthy06:04
MinatakuI'm a little behind06:04
crdlb!info linux-image-generic edgy06:04
MinatakuLinux Piyoko 2.6.20-Pyocola-i686 #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 14 22:42:51 EST 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux06:04
ubotulinux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.11 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB06:04
crdlb!info linux-image-386 dapper06:04
ubotulinux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.26 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB06:04
Minataku!info linux-image-generic hoary06:04
ubotulinux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20.16.28.1 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB06:05
MinatakuHaha06:05
marcelolFF can't with 20.1506:05
crdlbthere wasn't a generic kernel in hoary06:05
MinatakuAh06:05
Minataku!info linux-image-386 hoary06:05
ubotulinux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20.16.28.1 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB06:05
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MinatakuI think the bot doesn't care anyway06:05
chemicalvampi hate winblows06:05
crdlband ubotu doesn't go back that far :P06:05
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hitmanWillyi don't think hoary is even supported anymore06:05
Minatakuchemicalvamp: Why do you think we're all here? ;306:05
chemicalvamplol06:06
crdlbhitmanWilly, not even close :P06:06
marcelollooks like that might be bleeding edge ubotu.....because that's what it's bringing down to me now06:06
crdlbbreezy just fell out of support06:06
chemicalvampi love how kubuntu knows my sound card, and installs it on its own06:06
MinatakuI'm a Gentoo user06:06
chemicalvampbut i cant seem to install iton winlows at all06:06
hakaisounot really the case vamp06:06
hitmanWillysame here06:06
MinatakuI looked up the soundcard and set it up myself06:06
marcelolcrdlib.....done apt'ing the two packages....06:06
hakaisouyou are kinda right06:06
marcelolwhat now ?06:06
MinatakuAll while leaving out every sound card I _don't_ have XD06:06
marceloljust switch it in the System Settings ? and restart X ?06:07
klobsterout of curiosity if KDE and gnome merged, do you think they would call it knome?06:07
marcelolor something else required ?06:07
chemicalvampwish kubuntu could jump over to the other partition slap some sence into winblows and then jump back06:07
crdlbmarcelol, err reboot I guess and make sure you boot the generic kernel06:07
marcelolkbloster....bite your tongue06:07
hitmanWillyMinataku: just updated my kernel today...a 10 minute full kernel compile :)06:07
MinatakuhitmanWilly: Heehee06:08
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hakaisou*boring lesson* most linux distros use a sound driver called ALSA "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture"06:08
Minatakuccache?06:08
newGuy_Sorry, got disconnected.06:08
hitmanWillyMinataku: last time i did it on ubuntu took over an hour :)06:08
hakaisouit supports a stupid number of cards06:08
Minatakuhakaisou: Wrong06:08
MinatakuALSA is the sound engine06:08
chemicalvampklobster that should be followed by "when hell freezes over"06:08
hakaisouoh really?06:08
MinatakuThe drivers are what allow ALSA to access the cards06:08
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hakaisouhmm, misunderstood then.  please tell me06:08
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marcelolit said the following:06:08
marcelolSetting up linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-386 (2.6.20.5-15.20) ...06:08
marcelolSetting up nvidia-glx (1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.28) ..06:08
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hakaisouah, i see06:08
marcelolso I'm assuming to boot the 2.6.20.5-16 ?06:08
marcelol2.6.20.5-16.28?06:09
hakaisouthanks for the clarification Miataku06:09
hakaisouMinataku *06:09
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dr_williswell night all.06:09
Minatakuhakaisou: No problem06:09
crdlbmarcelol, boot the newest generic kernel06:09
marcelolahh....ok06:09
marcelolbrb.....hopefully....06:09
MinatakuYeah, ALSA is the whole sound framework/API06:10
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MinatakuThe individual drivers are a part of the whole thing06:10
newGuySo anytime I try to boot into kubuntu I get an error message that the ramdrive is full, followed by "Kernel Panic - Not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs..."06:10
newGuyIs there anything I can do?06:10
chemicalvampanybody know, "if a person where to have to reinstall windows on the main partition, would they be able to reinstall grub on a live cd?06:10
MinatakuGet more RAM06:10
hitmanWillychemicalvamp: yes06:11
newGuyIt used to work Minataku, and I've run memtest, my ram is fine.06:11
MinatakunewGuy: Is this an old computer? And is this the LiveCD?06:11
MinatakuHm06:11
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greg_gheya, anyone know about a recent (last week) post that was on planet.kde.org about a script to keep gnome and kde applications in different menus if you have both installed?06:11
MinatakunewGuy: That is weird.06:11
newGuyNo, this was a previously working installation.06:11
chemicalvampwould i have to do a chroot?06:11
hakaisoui used to get that error before i got the plug to fully power my dual core cpu06:11
newGuyAMD X2 computer, 1 gig ram.06:11
hakaisouonly had a p4, needed a p806:12
newGuyThis installation was previously working, till I moved the computer, could a plug be out of whack or something?06:12
MinatakunewGuy: Couldn't hurt to check inside06:12
hakaisouindeed06:12
hitmanWillynewGuy: possibly06:12
hakaisounever underestimate the id 10 t error06:13
MinatakuEveryone gets that wrong06:13
duncan_lol06:13
newGuyWhat is ud 10 t?06:13
MinatakuIt's 1D10T06:13
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newGuyLOL06:13
duncan_rofl06:13
chemicalvampmy fried once took his tower on the road when he moved.. and the cpu fan power jiggled out06:13
MinatakuIt's a one, not an "I"06:13
hakaisouit's not wrong mina06:13
marcelolok...rebooted06:13
hakaisoujust another way of puting it06:13
MegloFUCK YES POWER RANGERS06:13
marcelolgraphics card and driver still say "nv" not "nv-glx"06:13
hakaisoubesides, saying ID 10 T makes sense06:13
newGuyhakaisou, what plug was not working correctly for you?06:13
marcelolHmmmm06:13
Minatakuhakaisou: Correct is 106:14
duncan_agreed06:14
hakaisounever heard it with a 1, and it's not "correct"  just alternate06:14
hakaisounewGuy, the processor power plug06:14
duncan_dosen't really matter06:14
hakaisoui was a p8 plug, but i only had a p406:14
newGuyWhere is that located?06:14
marcelolhow do I switch it to use the glx drivers ?06:14
hakaisounext to the proc, if you even have one06:15
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newGuyThank you.06:15
jaloolaend06:15
hitmanWillymarcelol: run sudo nvidia-xconfig06:15
jaloolaquit06:15
marcelolok06:15
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hitmanWillymarcelol: that should set up xorg.conf correctly for you06:16
marcelolok...it said it created a new xorg.conf....gonna look at it06:16
marcelolok...looks reasonable....what now ? restart X ?06:17
marcelolor reboot ?06:17
hitmanWillymarcelol: restart X06:17
crdlbmarcelol, what did you use?06:17
crdlbyou need to reboot if you enable a restricted driver06:17
marcelolI thought I used the nvidia one ?06:18
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marcelolall it says is "nvidia" in the driver section of xorg.conf06:18
hitmanWillycrdlb: actually, the nvidia driver modprobes itself on install :)06:18
crdlboh nm then06:18
crdlbwait how could it?06:19
marcelol"Device".....Identifier....<My video card is named> ...then ...Driver "nvidia"06:19
crdlbit'll fail to modprobe if you don't have nvidia in your xorg.conf06:19
marcelolIt does not...06:19
crdlbsudo modprove nvidia06:19
marcelolhopefully it should be using the right kernel module.06:19
crdlbthen you should be able to restart X06:19
crdlbif X fails to start, try rebooting06:19
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marcelolHmmm...the modprobe says it failed to run the install command for nvidia06:20
crdlbmarcelol, ok try rebooting06:20
marceloladept said something about "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" or some such06:20
crdlbif it doesn't work...06:20
crdlbremember:06:20
crdlb!xconfig06:20
ubotuTo reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes06:20
marcelolyeah...boot recovery and ZAP back the original xorg.conf06:21
crdlbthe second command  ^^06:21
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marcelolgonna try it out06:23
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billykan ~~~06:25
billykan ???06:26
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dsmith_  wow I can type taiwanese06:30
dsmith_errr. or perhaps its Korean06:30
crimsunit's Korean.06:31
dsmith_I was close..06:31
crdlbis there a korean channel?06:31
dsmith_there should be06:32
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dsmith_between this one and ubuntu, there will only be more ppl coming in here06:32
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Nicofrandhello06:35
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juanvaldeCan someone help a linux networking newb with a networking problem?06:36
PokerFacePenguingive it a shot juan06:37
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marcelolwell that was futile06:37
marcelolI went to the recovery console and tried to start X by hand...06:38
MinatakuHeh06:38
marceloland I got the same thing as when I tried to sudo modprobe nvidia06:38
marcelolyeah...06:38
MinatakuI just had X explode06:38
marcelol"error running install command for nvidia. failed ot load nvidia kernel module"06:38
marcelolI'm thinking "WTF ?"06:38
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Nicofrandkubuntu refuses to start today oO and i don't know why...the logo appears, this is loading and then the logo comes one more time and then the screen is black, i can just write text (but this is not a console )06:39
marcelolNico....you're suffering from the same as I06:39
marcelol"Cannot load your video drivers kernel module"-itis06:39
Nicofrandmarcelol: but where did you see that?06:39
juanvaldeLAN cannot get IP, though all windoz computers seem to be fine06:40
marcelolthat's EXACTLY what happens to me when I switch to the nv-glx driver06:40
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marceloldidn't see it Nicofrand....just been dealing with that behavior for about a day or so now06:40
Nicofrandmarcelol: uh ok ,but how do you start the recovery console?06:40
marceloluh....select it in grub ?06:40
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Nicofrandok i'll try06:41
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marcelolif you were trying to switch drivers...might I recommend the same thing they told me to get back to a working desktop06:41
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marcelolsudo dpkg-reconfigure xervers-xorg -phigh06:41
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marcelolthen select the most appropriate generic driver ( for me it was just 'nv' )06:42
marcelolanyway....06:42
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marcelolanyone have any ideas about why the nvidia kernel module is unable to load ?06:42
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marcelolmodprobe won't perform install command for nvidia06:43
marcelolit's the darnest thing06:44
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newguyThe last thing I did on this computer was update the WINDOWS drivers for my processor, (AMD athelon 64 X2), then when I tried to boot into linux I now get an error saying the ramdrive is full, followed by an error "Kernel Panic - Not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)"06:44
newguyI checked all the cables, they are connected. Moving the computer must not have been the culprit.06:44
crdlbmarcelol, try this: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r); sudo apt-get install linux-generic06:44
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greg_gso, I know there is a script or something out there that separates gnome and kde apps into separate menus when you have both installed, anyone know where that is?06:45
crdlband make /absolutely/ sure that you boot the generic kernel06:45
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newguyAny ideas?06:46
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marcelolok..1) all in one line 2) use "uname" or my login name ?06:48
flakehow could I go about converting a FLV file to an AVI or WMV?  VLC plays the FLV format ok06:48
MrElmois there a way to upgrade from Kubuntu Edgy to Feisty without downloading the Feisty Live CD?06:48
crdlbmarcelol, it's all one one and use exactly what it typed :)06:49
flakeMrElmo - yes, that's what I did but I forget the website should be in ubuntu forums06:49
crdlbit'll be substituted with your kernel version06:49
marceloland away it goes...06:49
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MrElmothanks, flake06:50
marcelolremoving linux-restritcted-modules-2.6.20-1606:50
flakenp06:50
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flakei backed up my home directories but gave me an option to keep them, didn't loose anything in them06:50
marcelolnow it switched to linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic06:50
marcelolnow what ?06:51
crdlbit's finished?06:51
marcelolyes06:51
crdlbnow reboot and choose the generic kernel06:51
crdlb(as opposed to the 386 kernel)06:51
MrElmoflake, do you know if feisty comes with ntfs-3g installed?06:51
marceloldo I do the nvidia-xconfig now, or after ?06:51
crdlbmarcelol, nope that's done06:51
marcelolok..I'll give it a shot06:52
crdlball that does is change your xorg.conf to nvidia06:52
marcelolbrb06:52
marcelolhopefully06:52
flakeI don't remember, but somehow I have that06:52
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MrElmocool.  okay, thanks again06:52
flakeNTFS configuration tool06:52
marcelolwon't I need that to switch to the glx enabled drivers ?06:52
marcelolanyway..I'll brb06:52
crdlbmarcelol, if your xorg.conf says nvidia, you're done06:52
marceloloh it doesn't yet...06:53
luisyes06:53
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marcelolhad switch back to nv so I could get to here06:53
crdlboh lol06:53
crdlbyou're right06:53
marcelollet me do that and reboot06:53
crdlbsudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 2406:53
crdlb^^ if you want to run beryl :P06:53
jimmyI am having a problem with sound on a THinkpad T43 after the latest 2.5.20-16 kernal upgrade, anyone else?06:53
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Nicofrand(back )06:53
marcelolof course I want to RUN beryl06:53
marcelolbrb06:54
flakedoes beryl work good with 3d windowed/fullscreen games?06:54
Edijus1Can someone help me with modifying Kubunu? I need someone puts restricted package on it and some apps then makes ISO and uploads it06:54
Nicofrandmarcelol: do you still have the nvidia problem?06:54
marcelolgonna reboot and see if it works now06:54
marcelolbrb06:54
Nicofrandok06:54
rollerskatejammsWhats a good way to see how big a folder and all its contents are, from the terminal. (recursively)06:54
pyrosimdu -h .06:54
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Kumahi, my kubuntu linux distro stoped recognizing my cable Internet connection, how can i fix this?06:55
jimmyrollerskate: ls -Ral06:55
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jimmyls --help will list all the available options06:56
crimsunjimmy: what's the problem?06:56
klobsterKuma: call comcast?06:57
jimmyWell, after the kernal upgrade, my sound seems to have cut out06:57
crimsunjimmy: pastebin ``amixer'', then tell me the url06:57
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jimmyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23214/06:58
Kumaklobster: the problem is i had to switch OS to connect to the IRC channel, can you please tell me what do i do after running comcast command so i can fix this w/o needing asking anything else?06:58
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klobsterkuma: first lets find out about the connection: is your cable modem connected to a router, or straight into the computer?07:00
Kumaklobster:07:00
Kumastright07:00
Jack3whats the app to read text?07:00
Jack3like voice07:00
klobsterkuma: and it works in windows?07:00
crdlbJack3, as in text-to-speech?07:01
Jack3yes07:01
jimmycrimsun: I searched the bug tracker, but couldn't find anything, was working just fine before the upgrade07:01
Cosmo__can anyoe make any suggestion as to good motherboards to go with a AMDfx x2 5600 processor and a nvidia 7950gt video card07:01
Kumaklobster: yes07:01
crdlb!info festival | Jack307:01
ubotujack3: festival: general multi-lingual speech synthesis system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.3-17.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 711 kB, installed size 2120 kB07:01
Jack3thank you07:01
crdlbthere might be something better but I only know of that07:01
klobsterkuma: did you try to ping an ip from the console?07:01
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klobsterkuma: (in linux that is)07:02
Kumaklobster: i pinged www.google.com07:03
Kumaklobster: the response was automatic, it said host unknown07:03
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klobsterare you on kde or gnome?07:04
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Kumajde07:04
Kuma*kde07:04
marcelolwell yet again..that was futile07:04
crdlb:'(07:04
marcelolit still says the nvidia kernel driver is unable to be installed07:05
marceloleverything else looks like it's in place...07:05
crdlbdid you ever use envy or the nvidia installer?07:05
marcelolnope07:05
marcelolshould I try the nvidia installer ?07:05
crdlbdon't recommend it generally07:05
marcelolok...then it's good that I didn't07:05
crdlbalthough I'm stumped :(07:05
marcelolI didn't need to do that "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" did I ?07:06
crdlbmarcelol, nvidia-xconfig is equivalent07:06
crimsunjimmy: looking now, busy07:06
klobsterkuma: go into system settings - > networkl settings and tell me what it says in network connections07:06
jimmycrimsun: alright, thanks07:06
marcelolgotcha07:06
marcelol<-- will have to remember that07:06
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crimsunjimmy: your 'PCM' is muted and zeroed.07:06
crimsun:-)07:06
Nicofrandmarcelol: i think you just need nvidia-glx, linux-restricted-modules etc and to wrtie nvidia-xconfig07:07
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Nicofrandmarcelol: and then startx, if it works, reboot =)07:07
marcelolyeah..I've got those07:07
marcelolI did that..07:07
klobstermarcelol: what is the exact error msg you are recieving?07:07
jimmycimsun: that is weird, can I fix it from bash?07:07
marceloland it left with a blank screen and an underscore in the upper left hand corner of the screen just sitting there07:07
Kumaklobster: i'm at windows right now07:07
jimmycrimsun: kmix is a full blast07:08
crdlbmarcelol, what nvidia card is it?07:08
crimsunjimmy: sure, amixer set 'PCM' unmute && amixer set 'PCM' 80%07:08
Nicofrandmarcelol: if it is an old version you need nvidia-glx-legacy07:08
jimmycrimsun: ACK! too loud! Thanks, working just great now07:09
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crdlbmarcelol, if it's at least a FX series, you can try nvidia-glx-new, but be sure to change DISABLED_MODULES to "nvidia_legacy nvidia"07:11
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marcelol_sorry about that...07:12
marcelol_what did I miss ?07:12
klobsterI can wait a bit, if you want to reboot, but anyone will need that info to proceed07:12
klobsterkuma ^^07:12
crdlb<crdlb> marcelol, if it's at least a FX series, you can try nvidia-glx-new, but be sure to change DISABLED_MODULES to "nvidia_legacy nvidia"07:12
crdlbmarcelol_, before that I asked what nvidia card?07:13
marcelol_no it's a GeForce Go 420007:13
marcelol_this is an Inspiron 850007:13
Kumaklobster: ok, i will take a screenshot and upload it when i come back07:13
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crdlbmarcelol_, ooh07:15
crdlbmarcelol_, black screen you say?07:15
marcelol_yes...with an underscore at the upper left....07:15
crdlbmarcelol_, and no error or anything?07:16
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marcelol_just before that the screen flickers a couple of times...it goes back to the "Kubuntu progress bar " screen...then it takes to to a black screen with the cursor in the upper left07:16
marcelol_no, not at that point07:16
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marcelol_what I did was to reboot, and boot into the recovery mode07:16
marcelol_then typed in "startx", and then the screen gets the way I descrbed07:17
crdlbmarcelol_, ok in your Device section of your xorg.conf07:17
crdlbadd: Option "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"07:17
crdlbunder Driver "nvidia"07:17
crdlbif that doesn't work search the ubuntu forums for another fix07:17
crdlbsearch for nvidia geforce 4 42007:18
crdlbit's an extremely common problem with the 9631 driver07:18
marcelol_interesting this time in xorg.conf instead of "NVidia Ti4200 NV28..etc..etc." it says "Generic Video Card" in the "Identifier" option07:19
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kumahi again07:19
crdlbmarcelol_, that's just from dpkg-reconfigure'ing07:19
crdlbit doesn't matter as long as it's consistent07:19
marcelol_I figured as much07:19
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marcelol_allow me to reboot and have a go at it once more07:19
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marcelol_brb07:20
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Meglohttp://www.microsoft.com/surface/07:23
KtronHey everyone07:23
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KtronIf a kubuntu 7.04 disc boots, but when any option is selected the monitors go blank and lose their signal, is there much to do but try the alternate cd?07:24
flakedoes xarchiver do a good job with 7zip or is there a better way out there to compress an avi file07:24
flakelike a front-end to 7zip, or just zip?07:24
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flakesurface - heh - now mirrorsoft is trying to rip off Minority Report07:26
networkparadoxanyone good at working with ~/.kde/Autostart ?07:26
flakeTom Cruise should arrest the developers for future infringement of patent rights07:27
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flakea reference to the movie, for those I lost or don't care :/07:27
flakecan you imagine all the greasy fingerprints caking up those touch screens07:28
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rollerskatejammsIf I add Kubuntu's bleeding edge KDE repo, that means I get KDE 4 alpha right?07:34
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Admiral_Chicagorollerskatejamms: no, you're probably looking at the latest stable repo07:35
marcelolthrwarted yet again by my nemesis the NVIDIA kernel driver07:36
rollerskatejammsAdmiral_Chicago, I thought Kubuntu also had a bleeding edge kde repo07:36
Admiral_Chicagonope.07:36
Admiral_Chicagonot by default anyways.07:36
Admiral_Chicagogive me a second.07:36
rollerskatejammsi know not by default07:36
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Admiral_Chicagokubuntu.org looks to be down, no way for me to check..07:37
marcelolanyway.....I'll give it another try tomorrow07:37
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rollerskatejammsyup07:37
rollerskatejammsits back up07:37
rollerskatejammshttp://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/07:38
rollerskatejammsyup its there :-D07:38
rollerskatejammsdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest feisty main07:38
rollerskatejammsI'm going to install kubuntu and add that repository, inside vmware07:38
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Admiral_Chicagothe line for KDE4 is deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1 feisty main07:39
Admiral_Chicagowhich is not stable. that line is for latest stable07:40
klobsterkuma: are you back?07:40
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rollerskatejammsAdmiral_Chicago, Ah ok. Cool thanks. Where did you find that?07:41
Admiral_Chicagocan someone tell me the defaul port for Ktorrent.07:41
rollerskatejammsAdmiral_Chicago, 688107:42
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Admiral_Chicagorollerskatejamms: my comments in my repo. documentation is important07:42
Admiral_Chicagothanks07:42
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rollerskatejammsIt would be cool if the KDE guys put out a live cd of the alpha release07:45
mindslantI'm trying to rescue another system.  Using Knoppix 5.10 I've booted and I'm trying to back up the files onto my permanent Kubuntu...but...uh...how do I create a linux network...what ap?07:45
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rollerskatejammsmindslant, you want to create shares on your linux box? what do you want to do07:46
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mindslantI'm going to wipe the other system clean, but I want to back up needed files onto this box07:46
rollerskatejammsyes but to where.07:46
rollerskatejammsoh07:46
rollerskatejammsfrom that system07:46
mindslantyes07:46
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kumaklobster: yup, i rebooted and the probelm was gone.07:46
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rollerskatejammsso create a samba share (or an nfs share) on "this box". or install an ftp server like vsftp, and send the files over07:47
mindslantTheres a ms network, but I'd rather a linux network07:47
mindslantsamba share...1 sec...appreciate it07:47
klobsterkuma: hmm, go figure07:47
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Admiral_Chicagorollerskatejamms: there is one out07:48
rollerskatejammsmindslant, if you want a "linux network" closest thing to that is NFS i guess07:48
rollerskatejammsalthough its techinically a solaris network :-P07:48
mindslantI find Samba Shares, and there's a wizard for creating a network folder...is that my ticket?07:48
kumaklobster: anyway, when this happen again, what do you recommend me to do before switching to windows for help?07:48
jacques_hi07:49
rollerskatejammshi07:49
klobsterkuma: hard to say without knowing what happened.07:49
mindslantsalut jacques07:49
jacques_salut07:49
jacques_ca va?07:49
mindslantca va bien!  et vous?07:49
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jacques_Je vais bien07:50
mindslantI live in Texas, I dont' get to practice much French07:50
kumaklobster: isnt there a way to reboot the network configuration? something that make Linux look for the connection again?07:50
jacques_vous etes fancais?07:50
jacques_I am from Mali but staying in China07:50
mindslantNon, je suis Texan.  J'etudie dan ma l'ecole pout trois ans.  Ni hao ma?07:50
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rollerskatejammskuma, sudo /etc/init.d/network restart07:50
mindslantTrois ans pour chinois aussi07:51
rollerskatejammsnetworking rather07:51
kumarollerskatejamms :O thanks07:51
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rollerskatejammskuma, if you just want the linux equivalent of ipconfig /renew07:51
klobsterkuma: yup what he said07:51
rollerskatejammskuma, you can just do sudo dhclient interfacename07:51
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kumalol, thanks a lot for your help :)07:51
rollerskatejammsIf all else fails07:52
rollerskatejammssudo flux-capacitor --fix07:52
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kumarollerskatejamms: sudo dhclient eth0?07:52
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rollerskatejammskuma, yup07:52
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rollerskatejammskuma, assuming eth0 is the one you want07:52
kumai see...07:53
mindslantrollewrskate, when I use the wizard for creating a new MS Network Drive...Name is what I want to call the work group, folder is the name of the folder I wan tto create...what do I use as the server?  Myself07:53
mindslant*rollerskate07:53
rollerskatejammsmindslant, on windows or linux?07:54
mindslantLinux?07:54
rollerskatejammsoh ok07:54
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rollerskatejammsthe server is the computer youre on right now then. you dont have to set it07:54
mindslantNext to Samba Shares is a wizard for creating a network folder.  Thank god!07:54
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rollerskatejammsok night all07:57
mindslantthanks07:57
jacques_mindslant: do you speak chinese?07:58
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mindslantI used to07:59
mindslantMandarin anyways07:59
mindslantI've studied French, Mandarin, some Russian, lived with Koreans and worked in a language lab so I can be polite in about 30 languages07:59
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jacques_great!08:00
jacques_ha08:00
mindslantWhat part of china you in?08:00
mindslantWhat I wouldn't do for some home made Hanzou!08:00
jacques_!I can only speak 608:00
mindslantNo, I only speak 1 well.  Like I said, In Texas you can only reall practice Spanish08:00
jussi01!offtopic | jacques_ mindslant08:01
ubotujacques_ mindslant: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:01
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jacques_ok sorry08:01
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jacques_I am trying to get the macos x  look for my kde08:02
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jussi01jacques_: install the baghira theme from the repos08:03
imaginejacques_: there's a theme for that08:03
jacques_ok08:03
imaginejussi01 found it.08:03
jussi01:D08:03
imaginehehe08:03
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jacques_why?08:04
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imaginethe OSX style is good on a MAC08:04
jussi01heheh08:04
jussi01I agree08:04
mindslantWhen I try to adjust my sharing in system settings it tells me I need SMB and NFS servers...so what's that?08:04
imagine:)08:04
jussi01mindslant: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs08:05
jussi01i think....08:05
jacques_is this kwin-baghira?08:05
imaginemindslant: I speak french as well :P but yeah, samba and nfs08:05
mindslantwell...here goes.  Merci beaucoup08:05
jussi01jacques_: i think so, install anything that says baghira08:05
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imaginemindslant: Samba shares ( compatible with Microsoft Windows ) and NFS is a filesyste08:06
imaginesystem*08:06
mindslantwell imagine (Lennon inspired nick?) it's doing something...08:06
jacques_only that one08:06
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jussi01jacques_: yep, then thats the one. what doe the description say?08:06
Lam_i need a program that can play .rm stream files08:06
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jussi01Lam_: real player for linux?08:07
imaginemindslant: well it kinda meant that way as I have the same philosophy08:07
Lam_jussi01: oh? didn't realize there was one. i'll look into that. thanks08:07
Admiral_ChicagoLam_: in the canonical repository08:07
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jussi01Lam_: :D08:07
imaginemindslant: yeah the apt-get  jussi01 suggested is your package manager08:07
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mindslantslowly I'm picking up the Command line commands08:08
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imagineadept-manager is the GUI version08:08
jacques_Baghira (panther, in german) makes KDE resemble Apple's MacOS X's Aqua,08:08
jacques_Panther and Jaguar looks, and also includes its own 'Baghira' look08:08
mindslantI'm 24 but I still remember programming in basic08:08
imaginemindslant: well.. i never use them.. rather use a GUI here, even tho I know most of them08:08
jacques_I have installed it08:08
jacques_now what is the next step08:08
Admiral_Chicago!realplayer08:08
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:08
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Lam_Admiral_Chicago: thanks. that helps. i have the canonical repository but i didn't get a hit for a search of "real"08:09
imagineomg08:09
imaginekdelibs takes forever to compile08:09
jussi01jacques_: press alt+f2 and type kcontrol08:09
imagine10 minutes and 2% only08:09
Admiral_ChicagoLam_: apt-cache search real08:09
jussi01imagine: lol08:09
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: hey there !! :)08:09
Lam_Admiral_Chicago: yeah. tried that. $ apt-cache search --names-only real, but i didn't get anything08:09
Jucatohi Admiral_Chicago! :)08:10
mindslantUnder the system setting sharing GUI samba has green checks, nfs has red X, is that okay?08:10
imagineno08:10
Admiral_ChicagoLam_: did you do apt-get update?08:10
imaginenfs needs green08:10
mindslantfoi08:10
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: working on much?08:10
imaginebut what do you want to do ?08:10
Lam_Admiral_Chicago: even if i didn't, my computer does it once a day, and yeah i did08:10
jussi01!info nfs08:10
ubotuPackage nfs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:10
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: just finished a chapter. taking a break and reading some news :)08:10
mindslantI need to create a network folder to bring over files from another box08:10
imaginemindslant: *nix box?08:11
mindslant??? *nix?08:11
imaginelinux, kubuntu08:11
mindslantKnoppix 5.1008:11
imaginekk08:11
Admiral_Chicagovery good.08:11
imagineboth are on 5.10?08:11
jacques_and after08:11
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imaginecuz you can use ssh-nfs through fuse-mount if both are with linux08:11
mindslantThis box, where I want the files to come is Kubuntu 7.04 64b.  The other is on liveCD Knoppix 5.1008:12
jussi01mindslant: try sudo apt-get install nfs-user-server08:12
mindslantokay08:12
imagineboth are unixes based then, don't use samba08:12
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mindslantknew it!08:12
imaginelinuxes*08:12
jussi01mindslant: im not certain on that one though, so be careeful08:12
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titanix88hendaus:08:13
imaginehmm got a tutorial if you are over a LAN network, fuse-mount is good, encrypts all your data in 1024bits08:13
Lam_Admiral_Chicago: found it: "RealPlayer is available from Canonical's Commercial software repository for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper) only. To install RealPlayer on 6.10 (Edgy), use one of the methods below."08:13
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Admiral_Chicagogood.. i think08:14
mindslantwhere's the tutorial at imagine?08:14
crimsunhmm?08:14
crimsunno, realplay is also available in edgy-commercial08:14
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crimsuni.e., http://archive.canonical.com/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz08:15
mindslantjussi01...it downloaded adn installed but NFS is still red x'd08:15
imaginemindslant: http://www.howtoforge.com/nfs_ssh_tunneling08:15
imagineit's using a debian-based distro, gonna be easy08:15
mindslantok08:15
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imaginemindslant: sorry I actually use sshfs which is a mixture of nfs and ssh :P08:16
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imaginegoogle for it08:16
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imagineI'm off to bed08:16
mindslantThanks08:17
mindslantau revois et bon nuit08:17
renatoas a matter of fact "real" appears on the ubuntu.com software catalogue08:17
thomax__when a Wireless lan PCI card has an atheros chipset it should normally be compatible with linux?08:19
thomax__Linux linuxbox 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 06:17:24 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux08:19
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mindslantFinally...its working08:19
Lam_realplayer on linux is so much better than on windows. it was always too bloaty on windows08:20
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renatowhat do you think it's best, real or helix or is it exactly the same?08:23
naught101anyone know how to run adept through a proxy with a username/password?08:24
naught101or aptitude, even better.08:25
renatoand you are on the other side?08:25
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Jucato!away > style08:30
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insmodhdparm question -- with the new updates dma was lost i reset it with hdparm but it wont keep 32 -- when i reboot it is 16  again -- alsa k3b resets to 4x not keeping 24x08:33
insmodalsa = also08:33
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stylemust be a ubuntu thing that they dont like /away..08:36
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mindslantThanks every one, g'night ya'll08:37
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krautmoin08:38
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v0taguzAnybody Have problems with the kernel update?08:39
Admiral_Chicago_v0taguz: everyone08:39
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v0taguzexist solution ?08:41
insmodwhy does xubuntu list the hard disks as sda and kubuntu does hda ? why is xubuntu makeing them scsi08:41
Admiral_Chicago_insmod: i don't know its a very odd issues.08:41
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insmod<Admiral_Chicago_>have you heard of it ?08:42
JucatoI've been hearing some people say that the latest kernel updates turned hda's to sda's...08:42
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insmod<Jucato>:hmm08:43
JucatoI haven't upgraded yet so I can't really say08:43
insmod<Jucato>:i can't set the hdparm now08:43
Admiral_Chicago_insmod: i've experience it.08:43
Cosmo__ anyone know what the difference between a nvidia 7950 GT and a 7950 GT KO is?08:43
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Admiral_Chicago_v0taguz: it hung on installing, i restarted and reconfigured dpkg08:43
Admiral_Chicago_not really a solution08:44
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insmod<Admiral_Chicago>did you fix it ?08:44
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Xenophon!monitor08:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:45
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omega_wolfHello?08:46
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omega_wolfIs anyone awake?08:47
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insmodyes08:48
omega_wolfI have a question. My friend is running 7.04 and can't play AVIs08:48
insmod<omega_wolf>install the plugins sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs08:50
omega_wolfin the terminal?08:50
Jucatoor in Adept Manager. take your pick08:51
omega_wolfThanks!08:51
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insmod<omega_wolf>ya or in anything synaptic etc08:51
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insmodJucato what does tab do08:52
omega_wolfThanks. See you guys later.08:52
Jucato!tab | insmod08:52
ubotuinsmod: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.08:52
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Jucatoinsmod: type the first few letters of the person's nick then press Tab08:53
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insmodJucato, cool08:53
Jucatowb Admiral_Chicago08:53
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Admiral_Chicagoodd08:54
Admiral_Chicagothanks Jucato. i couldn't connect on Irssi for some odd reaso.08:54
Jucatoso now you're on Konvi?08:55
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Admiral_Chicagothere I am08:56
Jucatohaha08:56
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boubbinboubbin@koubuntuh:~$ dcop --user boubbin09:05
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boubbinERROR: Multiple available KDE sessions!09:05
boubbinPlease specify the correct session to use with --session or use the09:05
boubbin--all-sessions option to broadcast to all sessions.09:05
boubbinhow can i fix this ?09:05
boubbinim not running multiple sessions of kde09:05
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epimethaaaahoyhoy09:18
epimeth:-p09:18
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Jucatoahoy matey! :)09:20
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Admiral_Chicagohey there...more problems it appears09:22
Jucatowith the kernel updates?09:23
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: Yakuake and screen and irssi09:23
Jucatooh....09:24
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: you ever use yakuake?09:24
Jucatoyep. but I haven't upgraded yet09:24
Jucatowell, I'm off for the day :)09:25
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Jucatosee yah!09:25
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Admiral_Chicagome too. bed now.09:25
Admiral_ChicagokkthxbyeJucato09:25
^RiaN^!cups09:27
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:27
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benjaminhi, I'm trying to install new fonts. This works in /usr/share/fonts, but is there a way to install it into my homedir09:42
benjaminI tryed .fonts dir but didn't work09:43
benjaminthe reason is that I want my fonts handy if I do a new installation09:43
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Rictoo|SLPhow do I see my current kernel version?09:44
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ShadyTreeSysinfo for 'bquio': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.00GHz at 1994 MHz (3991 bogomips), , RAM: 485/503MB, 124 proc's, 10.0d up09:47
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ShadyTreerun kinfocenter09:48
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premier_hello, my compy has been running slowly, lagging, even hanging.  Can someone help me diagnose it?  It seems to be something in kde10:11
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premier_like, how long should it take to load a kde program, like kwrite?10:12
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premier_I've been using linux for about 6 months, and I'm not sure, it seems like its gotton a lot slower10:13
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Admiral_Chicagopremier_: probably a runaway service10:15
Admiral_Chicagoyou can run top in a konsole and see what is taking an unnccesary amount of memor10:15
premier_Admiral_Chicago: okay... well, I have a system monitor that registers about 5%-10% use most of the time, except when I'm doing something intensive like loading programs10:16
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Admiral_Chicagohmm...second.10:17
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defcon_I installed kubuntu and kde to ubuntu, and for some reasons when I run gnome ubuntu still runs kde services, why is this? can I prevent it10:20
defcon_its hogging my resources10:20
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s-tonedI've got 2 systems with 7.04: the first began to make mouse clicks while scrolling up with the mouse wheel some days ago. The second started to do the same thing today. Any hints?10:28
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insmod<s-toned>upgraded10:29
s-tonednot today10:29
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_4strOyop yop10:41
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Eeyore-Jris there a good pdf form maker for linux?10:54
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_4strOpdf form maker ?10:54
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_4strOopernoffice ?10:54
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RytmenPinnenHi, I have a somewhat odd bug with kubuntu. About 10-20% of the times I turn off my computer the os exits and all and there's no signal to the monitor But, the computer doesnt power off for some reason10:55
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philipponanyone that can help me with my keyboard, it stops wirking after a while10:56
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Eeyore-Jri11:00
Eeyore-Jri'll try OO.o11:00
Subsonic_morning guys11:00
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_4strOmorning Subsonic_11:02
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tulgaI want install counter strike 1.6. where is guide?11:03
deadowlI wish I knew, I don't play cs.11:03
tulgahelp me howto do it11:04
deadowlAnd my wireless isn't finding anything, and that's what I need help with11:04
deadowlI really hate being confined to a computer room, I want to sit in the living room!!!11:04
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deadowltried looking here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594611:06
_4strOdeadowl: my wireless isn't finding anything <-- perhaps there is anything to find11:08
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deadowlThere definitely is11:08
_4strOok and it never find anything ?11:09
deadowlnope11:09
_4strOanywhere11:09
_4strOanytime11:09
_4strOor you just finished the installation11:09
deadowlbcm4310 UART rev01 with ndiswrapper 1.45, tried uninstalling/reinstalling a gajillion times. This problem started with the kernel update.11:10
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_4strOmmm i'm not specialist with wifi :/11:11
deadowlyea, perhaps not. The kernel log isn't particularly helpful either.11:12
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_4strOdeadowl: did yo try to boot on the old one ?11:13
sahey... I'm wondering which program to use when I want to find a wireless accessponit????11:13
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deadowlthat one stopped working too11:14
saanyone ?11:14
deadowlknetworkmanager11:14
llutzsa: iwlist scan11:15
saI'm running the knetworkmanager with no success, that's why11:15
deadowlopen konsole or something and type iwconfig11:16
deadowldoes it tell you there's a wireless card?11:16
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sano wireless extensions.11:17
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deadowloh darn11:18
saI dont belive it mentions anything abouut a wireless card11:18
deadowldoes it tell you anything whatsoever? or just no wireless extensions.11:18
salo no wireless extensions.11:18
saeth0 no wireless extensions.11:18
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deadowldoes wlan0 or eth1 exist?11:19
saeth1 unassociated..... bla bla11:19
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deadowleth1 is your wireless11:19
deadowltry iwlist eth1 scanning11:19
sabelive so11:19
sain the konsole??11:19
deadowlyea11:19
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deadowlsay anything?11:20
sajupp alot11:20
sawhat am I looking for?11:20
deadowlso it doesn't just say eth1 No scan results11:21
deadowlbecause that's what mine's doing right now11:21
deadowlso since you're this far, it means that your computer is actually interpreting the signals so unlike my wireless yours will actually work11:21
deadowldoes it say anything with ESSID or SSID?11:22
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deadowlyou'd be looking for something like "linksys"11:22
deadowlwow... a firefox irc client?11:23
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sahave 4 different ESSIDs11:25
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sathx 4 helping me friend...11:26
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deadowlokay, i don't know how to actually connect to one from the command line, but try going into network settings11:26
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deadowlor nm11:27
deadowlyou have knetworkmanager on?11:27
sajupp11:27
deadowlif you do, go to connect to other wireless11:27
deadowlput in the essid, and then the device should say blahablahlbablahalbah (eth1)11:28
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deadowlwhichever one you want to connect to11:28
sait seems that knetworkmanager doesnt find anything... :(11:28
deadowldoes it say no wireless networks found?11:29
kumamotowould that matter is the encryption is wep or wpa?11:29
deadowlhave you found yourself worrying about such things in the past?11:29
deadowl(when you didn't question wireless)11:29
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deadowlif not, you could probably just uncheck "Use Encryption" altogether11:30
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deadowlthen you could download wireshark or something to spy on other people using wireless around you, just like they can do to you11:30
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sahehe...11:31
deadowlyou'll probably find a million things if you filter aim or gnutella11:31
deadowlafk11:31
jukuliby the way,thats illegal ;D11:32
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sathx for the help man, I'll try some more later.... ;)11:34
deadowli don't think it is if you're doing it on your own network11:34
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deadowlso does anyone know what to do if your wireless isn't detecting anything?11:38
deadowlMy kernel log keeps saying this11:38
deadowlDHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 811:38
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deadowland then finding nothing11:39
deadowli'm wondering if the ff.ff.ff.ff has anything to do with it11:39
deadowlanyone?11:40
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deadowlonce again bcm4310 UART rev 01 using ndiswrapper11:43
deadowl(1.45)11:44
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mohsinDEAR HOW CAN I CAHANGE THE THEAME OF A KUBUNTU11:56
deadowloh god, the ubuntu channel is a nightmare "REINSTALL NDISWRAPPER!!!"11:56
deadowlhow do you change the theme of a kubuntu?11:57
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mohsinYEAH11:57
deadowlwell, if you haven't customized anything yet, you should be able to go to the K-Menu and click System Settings11:57
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deadowlFrom there you can click on appearance11:57
marko_i like to optimize my sources.list so i can get the most of the available software11:57
deadowl(under look & feel)11:57
marko_any how-to's11:57
mohsinthere is no any thing like apearence there11:58
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mohsindeadowl! there is no any thing like apearence there11:58
deadowlmohsin, what is there?11:59
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mohsinemrald theame manager11:59
mohsinand login11:59
mohsinonly two things are listed there11:59
deadowl???11:59
mohsinyeah12:00
deadowlwell, try running kcontrol?12:00
mohsinwhere is kcontrol12:00
deadowlif you don't have custom key bindings: alt+f2 and just type "kcontrol"12:00
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Jucatomarko_: which version of Kubuntu are you running?12:01
deadowlbtw, are you using beryl right now?12:01
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s-tonedI've got 2 systems with 7.04: the first began to make mouse clicks while scrolling up with the mouse wheel some days ago. The second started to do the same thing today. Any hints?12:02
ShadyTreedifferent mice?12:03
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marko_Jucato &.0412:03
Jucatomarko_: then all the repositories are already enabled by default12:03
s-tonedShadyTree: the very same mouse (connected via mouse/keyboard switch)12:04
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marko_Jucato i know but i had some problems before12:05
marko_with that reppos12:05
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Jucatomarko_: before? as in previous versions? or 7.04 also? what kind of problems?12:05
ShadyTrees-toned, I dont know12:05
marko_in 7.04 i get the message that apt-get can fetch the key and gzip failed12:06
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Jucatodoes this always happen? usually that happens when there are server problems with the mirror you are using, afaik12:07
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marko_2 or three times, now i'm running on modified repos12:07
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smilehi .. how can i play wmv movies under linux ?12:08
sivaji smile add plugins12:08
smilei can just hear sound ... no picture !12:08
smilesivaji: wich plugin ? and how ?12:08
marko_with wich player ?12:08
ShadyTreewhat player12:08
ShadyTreeare you using Feisty12:08
smilei use dapper12:08
ShadyTreeoh12:09
smilei use vlc and kaffeine12:09
ShadyTreewmv not working in vlc?12:09
smileShadyTree: ya :-(12:09
sivajismile "apt-cache search  wmv" it will show u12:09
smileShadyTree: i just hear sound but no image !12:09
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sivajismile run that command u will get plugins needed12:10
Jucato!wmv | smile12:10
ubotusmile: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:10
Jucatoer...12:10
Jucato!w32codecs12:10
ubotuSeveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs12:10
marko_where can i find a list of working servers for feasty repos12:10
Jucato!source-o-matic | marko_12:11
ubotumarko_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic12:11
Jucatotry those ^^^12:11
mohsindear how can i repair my kubuntu12:11
mohsin?12:11
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marko_i like to take the most software12:11
mohsinwithout reinstalling it12:11
sivajismile also  try  "apt-cache search  avi" it will show u12:11
smileJucato: i got12:11
smilehelpdeco - decompiler for windows help (WinHelp) files12:11
smilelibvlc0-dev - development files for VLC12:11
smilemozilla-plugin-vlc - multimedia plugin for Mozilla based on VLC12:11
smilevlc - multimedia player for all audio and video formats12:11
sivajiwhat is decompiler12:11
mohsindear how can i repair my kubuntu12:11
smilevlc-plugin-alsa - ALSA audio output plugin for VLC12:11
mohsinwithout reinstalling it12:11
smilevlc-plugin-arts - aRts audio output plugin for VLC12:11
Jucatosmile: what player are you using? if you are using Kaffeine, try mplayer/kmplayer or VLC12:12
smilevlc-plugin-esd - Esound audio output plugin for VLC12:12
smilevlc-plugin-ggi - GGI video output plugin for VLC12:12
smilevlc-plugin-glide - Glide video output plugin for VLC12:12
smilevlc-plugin-sdl - SDL video and audio output plugin for VLC12:12
smilevlc-plugin-svgalib - SVGAlib video output plugin for VLC12:12
smilewxvlc - wxWidgets frontend for VLC12:12
Jucatosmile: stop pasting!12:12
smileJucato: vlc and kaffeine12:12
Jucato!paste | smile12:12
ubotusmile: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:12
mohsindear how can i repair my kubuntu12:12
mohsinwithout reinstalling it12:12
ShadyTreesmile, try  sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs12:12
mohsindear how can i repair my kubuntu12:12
mohsinwithout reinstalling it12:12
Jucatowindows media are not covered by extracodecs though...12:12
ShadyTreeoh12:12
Jucatomohsin: depends on what the problem is12:13
smileShadyTree: i got them12:13
mohsini want to repair all the components12:13
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mohsindon care whats the prob is12:13
Jucatomohsin: what do you mean? everything is broken?12:13
mohsinno12:13
mohsinnot every thing12:13
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mohsinbut sometimes my system didn't work properly12:14
Jucatothe only way to "repair everything"  is to reinstall. the only way to "repair kubuntu without reinstalling it" is to fix only what is broken...12:15
mohsinahan12:15
Jucatoso solution #1 is to find out what is broken12:15
sivaji!decompiler12:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about decompiler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:15
marko_i added the repos from the source, any alse wich i can use12:15
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mohsinjust like i intstall UBUNTU ME VERSION ON MY kubuntu machine12:16
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mohsinbut now i want to remove that12:16
mohsinwhere can i find that part12:16
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JucatoME version?12:16
mohsinyeah12:16
ShadyTreemohsin, youre not making any sense12:16
mohsinmeans muslim version12:16
Jucatoer... you have to ask in the ME forums or channel how to do that12:16
mohsinno12:16
mohsini don want to12:17
mohsinbecause u peoples are tooo12:17
mohsingoood12:17
mohsinregarding to this12:17
mohsinplease help me12:17
Jucatomohsin: you have to. because you installed their product. they know best what to do12:17
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mohsinokay dear12:17
JucatoUbuntu ME is not an official Ubuntu product/project12:17
mohsinyeah i know that12:17
Jucato:/12:17
mohsindear12:17
mohsinplease tell me one thing12:18
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mohsini am totaly fed up eith the black screeen while booting ma system12:18
mohsinis there any splash12:18
mohsinlol12:18
smilemohsin: www.gnome-look.org12:18
mohsinor a colorful stuff like windows xp12:18
Jucatoa default Kubuntu (or Ubuntu/Xubuntu) installation has a bootsplash12:19
mohsindear i am using kde12:19
mohsinit didn't12:19
Jucatomohsin: btw, there seems to be an #ubuntume channel12:19
Jucatohttp://www.ubuntume.com/support12:19
mohsinahan12:20
mohsinthanks dear12:20
mohsinfor ur efforts12:20
mohsinfor me12:20
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ShadyTreeI like the UbuntuME look12:21
mohsinyeah12:21
mohsinthats why i install it12:21
mohsinbut didn't work on ma machine12:21
sivajiwhat is ma machine12:22
mohsinmay be its a beta release thats y might hay some bugs12:22
mohsinmeans "my machine"12:22
mohsinlol12:22
Jucatoit's just Ubuntu + a few Muslim-oriented apps, configurations, and artwork12:23
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mohsinyeah12:23
mohsinits seems to be like that12:23
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mohsinand an interesting things is that12:23
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mohsinchristians have their own12:23
mohsinubuntu christion edition12:23
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llutzis there one for atheists too? ;)12:24
sivajisudo shutdown -h 100 *going to halt now* when this command will halt my system after 100sec for after 100min12:24
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Jucato(actually there are 2 editions for christians...)12:24
mohsinahan12:24
mohsinwhich ones12:24
JucatoUCE and Ichtux12:24
Jucato(forgot the spelling of the latter)12:24
Jucatollutz: dunno. maybe there is. feel free to make one :)12:25
smilehi .. is there any codec to play wmv movies ?12:25
mohsinright12:25
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Jucatosmile: that's the only codec (w32codecs). try playing it in mplayer. maybe you'll have better luck...12:26
smileJucato: can i apt-get it ?12:26
Jucatosure12:27
Jucatoyou can even apt-get kmplayer, which is a KDE GUI from mplayer12:27
smileJucato: i have it12:28
Jucatosmile: make sure that kmplayer is set to use mplayer instead of xine though12:28
Jucato(right-click in the window -> Play with -> mplayer)12:28
smileJucato: ok12:29
smileJucato: thanx12:29
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mohsinjucato12:29
mohsinplease one more question12:29
Jucatook12:29
mohsinhow can i move my worlspaces 3D12:30
mohsinworkspaces12:30
Jucatowhat do you mean?12:30
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mohsinmeans like a sqaur moving 3 dimentionaly12:31
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mohsinwhen we move to another workspace12:31
Jucatoyou will have to install Compiz or Beryl for that12:31
Jucato!compiz12:31
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:31
Jucato!beryl12:31
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:31
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marko_i use the repos from source o matic12:32
mohsinahan12:32
marko_and they dont work12:32
mohsinthanks12:32
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OptimusRexHi all. One of my kubuntu machines is denying me access even though the password entered at login is correct.12:35
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OptimusRexIt is accepting the password then tries to start and shows a black screen but goes back to the login page12:36
OptimusRexsomeone please help12:36
OptimusRexHello, is anyone available to help? Please12:39
llutz!ask12:39
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:39
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JucatoOptimusRex: can you login to the command line? Ctrl+Alt+F1 (Alt+F7 to return to the GUI)12:41
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OptimusRexlet me try that Jucato12:44
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juan278i want to mount a file as my home directory but it locks up kde when i do this, any ideas what im doing wrong12:46
JucatoOptimusRex: if ever you can login the command line, try checking with "df -h" if you still have enough space left12:46
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OptimusRexJucato, It shows "Last login: wed May 30 11:28:01 2007 on" it stops there and nothing else happens12:47
JucatoOptimusRex: this is after you enter your username and password in the command line?12:47
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OptimusRexyes. Tried df -h and it shows Size 73G Used 69G12:49
OptimusRexI think use% is 10012:49
OptimusRexmay be I'm out of space12:49
Jucatoer.. then that's a problem12:49
Jucatoyes try to free up some space12:49
OptimusRexhow do I do that?12:49
Jucatois / and /home on the same partition?12:50
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RytmenPinnenHi, I have a somewhat odd bug with kubuntu. About 10-20% of the times I turn off my computer the os exits and all and there's no signal to the monitor But, the computer doesnt power off for some reason12:50
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OptimusRexI'm using the whole disk space for kubuntu with about 1gb for swap I think12:51
OptimusRexif that's what you mean12:51
JucatoOptimusRex: hm.. ok. "sudo apt-get clean"12:51
RytmenPinnenI just filed a bug report but there seems to be other people with similar problems, however most of them seems to be sit on dapper or edgy.12:52
OptimusRexfor some reason the text fills up the screen and I cannot see the command line or where I shold be typing12:53
OptimusRexseems like everything is too large for the screen12:53
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JucatoOptimusRex: which text? try pressing Enter or Ctrl+C12:55
OptimusRexall I see is optimus@vampirerex: ~$12:57
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llutzlol, OptimusRex thats the "prompt" where you should enter your commands12:57
tulgamy / partition moved to logical. howto fix grub?12:57
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OptimusRexhad managed to enter the line blindly and then my password but then the machine has stopped at the prompt again and by the way, the command does not show up on the screen even when I type it12:59
llutztulga: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst12:59
tulgaI cannot access to my system. now I have live CD12:59
tulgawhat I do?12:59
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JucatoOptimusRex: you've entered the the sudo apt-get clean command? try df -h again and see if usage has gone down01:02
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Jucatoreturn 0;01:03
Jucato:)01:03
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OptimusRexJucato, I think the machine is displaying everything late since even when I type in commands it does not show that but shows what was typed in earlier. Like it is running late in showing inputed text01:05
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JucatoOptimusRex: hm.. ok.. but is it now showing usage less than 100%? :(01:06
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OptimusRexno, Jucato. It's still at 100%01:06
Jucato:(01:06
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figueiredodudes.. i'm in nedd of a guru c.. someone?01:07
OptimusRexI hear you Jucato. Not good eh?01:07
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Jucatodefinitely not good...01:07
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figueiredodudes.. i'm in nedd of a guru c.. someone?01:08
JucatoOptimusRex: try restarting, then immediately go into the command line (Ctrl+Alt+F1) once you reach the login screen01:08
OptimusRexok01:08
JucatoOptimusRex: then "sudo apt-get clean" again (hopefully that will free up even 1% of space :(01:09
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philipponI strongly suspect that kubuntu doesn't like my graphics card, how can I check?01:12
OptimusRexJucato, when I type sudo apt-get clean it returns to the command prompt but when I df -h it still shows the same 100% usage01:12
philipponit's a  Asus GeForce 7950GT 512MB GDDR3, HDCP, PCI-Express, 2xDVI-I, Tv-Out, Retail01:12
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morphircould anyone tell me how I get window borders drop shadows? (all the way around)01:12
Grahammorphir: With beryl or something?01:13
OptimusRexit shows that rootfs is still at 100% usage mounted on / and the udev is at 1% usage01:13
OptimusRexmounted on /udev01:13
OptimusRexrather mounted on /dev01:13
OptimusRexJucato, how do I auto clean archives and downloade files?01:13
morphirGraham: I don't have beryl :/01:13
morphirplain kde01:13
morphir(kwin)01:14
OptimusRextried typing clean after the ~$ prompt and it returned the line 'This program 'clean' is not installed. TY01:15
vprintswhat's the app that handels multimedia keys ?01:15
vprints=)01:15
OptimusRexYou can install it by typing sudo apt-get install smarteiffel01:15
OptimusRexdoes  that make any sense?01:16
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Lynoureeiffel!01:17
OptimusRexsmarteiffel01:18
Grahammorphir: I didn't even know it was possible.01:18
space_ninjasorry guys, but I'm going to try ubuntu now and compare it with kubuntu :)01:18
LynoureOptimusRex: still. But who are you answering? I could not see eiffel anywhere in the lastlog01:18
LynoureOptimusRex: sorry to be curious, but I'm very fond of eiffel (smart, small or stupid)01:19
OptimusRexsorry Lynoure I was answering Jucato01:20
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OptimusRexI don't know any eiffel but there's a command showing on my screen that I need to install smarteiffel01:20
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OptimusRexI'm stuck trying to free some space on my machine so that I can log in01:21
OptimusRexI have some data I want to retrieve01:21
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OptimusRexhas anyone seen Jucato? Has he left?01:22
LynoureOptimusRex: interesting, it's very rare thing to need, unless you are coding in eiffel.01:22
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OptimusRexok. I'm trying to type in sudo apt-get clean to free some space but it does not seem to work. Any ideas Lynoure01:24
mo0osahis anyone else having issues with making virtualbox fullscreen?01:24
JucatoOptimusRex: sudo apt-get clean01:24
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OptimusRexHi Jucato was worried you had left. I have typed sudo apt-get clean many times now but no change in usage01:25
Jucatough...01:25
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OptimusRexit just goes back to the prompt01:25
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Jucatothe only other option would be to delete (permanently) some files that you don't absolutely need... but be careful, since deleting in the command line is irreversible01:26
OptimusRexok. How do I check what to delete?01:26
JucatoOptimusRex: er.. depends on you. some docs or files or images that you have?01:26
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OptimusRexhow do I list the files on my machine?01:27
Jucatooh wait... this might work (hopefully)01:27
OptimusRexok01:27
OptimusRexI'm all ears01:27
JucatoOptimusRex: "cd ~/.thumbnails" (go into the .thumbnails directory()01:27
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Jucatook?01:28
OptimusRexyes01:28
Jucatook "du -hs normal/"01:28
LynoureOptimusRex: apt-get clean only clears space if you have packages in the package cache...01:28
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LynoureOptimusRex: so if you run it twice in the row, the second time does absolutely nothing.01:29
JucatoLynoure: I was hoping that it was eating up his space...  apparently not01:29
JucatoOptimusRex: how much M is reported?01:29
OptimusRexshows 40k normal/ then returns to optimus@vampireRex:~/.thumbnails$01:29
Jucatojust 40K? hm...01:29
Jucatohow about "du -sh large/" ?01:29
OptimusRexjust 40k01:29
OptimusRex20k for large01:30
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Jucatoaw..01:30
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OptimusRexnow I'm sweating. This doesn't look good does it?01:30
OptimusRexhow do I get the list of files on my directory?01:31
Lynouredid find for large files yet?01:31
Jucatoactually, it's just easy to free up some space... I just don't know your files so I can't think of what's safe to delete....01:31
LynoureOptimusRex: ls -la   gives a nice detailed list01:31
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JucatoOptimusRex: basically, look for some large files that you can delete (permanently) to free up some of that 100% then you can log back in graphically (most probably)01:32
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juan278if i mount a truecrypt partion as my home then try and login i get errors, because files arnt there, is there anyway to get kubuntu to make these files if theyre missing01:33
OptimusRexshows a list of lines starting with drwx and then other details like 4 or 25 or 2 and 4096 appears for all of them. One ends with "." the other with ".." the other With "large" and the last line with "normal"01:33
knop44wondering if someone has been able to have knoppix or kubuntu mount and write to internal sd card; have heard this is hard and not found a way to get this done; using live cd with hp laptop thanks01:33
OptimusRexJucato: can I list all the files on my machine?01:34
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dwidmannjuan278: are you sure it's mounted properly? are all the files that are supposed to be in it actually in the partition or did you just switch over?01:38
juan278what files need to be in a /home/username ? i coppied them all over to the file i mount01:39
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guillermohello01:39
guillermoi am having troble with my ubuntu01:40
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guillermothis mornign when i started the pc, all the texts are very very little01:40
guillermokaffeine is working strange and amsn, has huge letters01:40
guillermonad the computer is very slow01:41
guillermorestarting has not changed anything01:41
juan278guillermo: have you updated anything recently?01:41
guillermonope01:42
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guillermowhere do i di that?01:42
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guillermoadept manager01:42
guillermo?01:42
OptimusRexdoes anyone know the command to list all the files on my kubuntu machine?01:43
juan278adept or synaptic if you use ubuntu , but if you havent updated i have no idea what the problem is01:43
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guillermowhat do you mean juan?01:43
guillermois updating the problem?01:44
guillermocos i am updating right now...?01:44
juan278OptimusRex:  ls -R -a /01:44
juan278guillermo: no but sometimes an update can mess stuff up01:45
guillermook i am gonna try to restart after uppgrading01:45
guillermoand see what happens?01:45
guillermodo you have anyidea how to change the size of the letters?01:45
juan278if you have multiple versions in grub see if it happens in all of them01:45
guillermoall the menus are diminute01:45
OptimusRexthanks guys. I'm back into the machine01:46
OptimusRexThanks Juan278 and thanks Jucato01:46
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OptimusRexactivating swapfile swap ....[fail]  does anyone know what that means?01:49
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s-tonedProblem: scrolling-down is fine, scrolling-up simulates mouse-clicks. xev shows one "ButtonPress Button2" event and one "ButtonPress Button3" event only in the beginning of scrolling-up. What can I do?01:51
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OptimusRexactually, the problem is back and I am now logged out and back to prompt. Please give me the line to delete files on my machine01:51
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juan278rm file01:52
juan278OptimusRex: it means your swap partition isnt getting mounted01:52
OptimusRexcould that be the problem making me not be able to log in?01:53
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juan278OptimusRex: im not sure, i wouldnt think so but it could,01:55
OptimusRexhow do I get into the list of files on my machine and start deleting some of the files since it shows I'm at 100% usagge?01:55
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juan278ls -R -a / lists all the files but i wouldnt delete anything thats not in /hom01:56
juan278unfortunatly i dont no how to get the output usefull in console01:57
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llutzOptimusRex: move some video/audio to an external drive02:01
LynoureOptimusRex: ls -R -a /02:02
LynoureOptimusRex: oops02:02
LynoureOptimusRex: sudo ls -R -a /  | less02:02
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OptimusRexok let me try that02:03
LynoureOptimusRex: but that gives you _all_ files. Gazillion of them. And simply not knowing what the file is does not make it safe to delete...02:03
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llutzOptimusRex: something like "find ~ -type d -exec du -sh {} \;|less" would be more helpfull02:04
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LynoureOptimusRex: If you have located your /home, better prune it down first before even considering deleting random stuff from the system02:05
OptimusRexgot into a bind now since there is an (END) appearing on the screen and saying that log file is in use02:05
OptimusRexhow do I get to home file02:05
OptimusRexhow do I get out of the log file?02:06
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SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: press Q02:06
OptimusRexthanks02:06
OptimusRexnow how do I get to my home file02:06
BluesKajno /home folder in System Menu ?02:07
SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: in a terminal? type "cd ~"02:07
OptimusRexhow do I get there? Just remember I've only been using kubuntu for a month now. Let me try the cd~02:07
OptimusRextyped cd ~ and hit enter02:08
OptimusRexnothing just the prompt02:08
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SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: right. But you are now in your home directory. Type "ls" to see the files that are in there.02:09
BluesKajcd /home02:09
guillermowell i restarted and the problem is still there02:09
guillermothe fonts are diminute imposible to see02:09
OptimusRexcd /home gives me root@vampirerex:/home# and typing ls shows 'optimus' in blue02:10
OptimusRexand then root@vampirerex:/home#02:10
SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: your "cd ~" worked fine. It always just gives you a prompt.02:10
SlimeyPeteso if you go "cd ~" then type ls you should see your files.02:11
OptimusRexls after the prompt then gives 'sudo ls'02:11
llutzif root does "cd ~" he ends in /root, not in users-home02:11
llutzand he's root:  root@vampirerex02:12
SlimeyPeteahhh02:12
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llutzOptimusRex: cd ~optimus02:12
OptimusRexls after root@vampirerex:/home#  just gives me optimus and root@vampirerex:/home# again02:12
OptimusRexi'm in optimus now02:13
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SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: home directories are stored in /home/<user login>... so the home of your normal user account is /home/optimus02:13
guillermodoes anyone know how to change the fonts of the menus?02:13
guillermothe are diminute since this morning?02:13
OptimusRexit gives me 'desktop' and 'kubocuments' in blue and I know there are some files I could get rid of in kubocuments02:13
SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: why are you using the root account, by the way? It's not recommended. It's better to prefix commands with "sudo"02:13
OptimusRexexplain pleas Slimey Pete02:14
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SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: by the way, why are you using a terminal to do this? You do know that you can just click the menu at the top of the screen and select your home folder from there?02:14
BluesKajguillermo, system setings/appearance/fonts02:14
SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: you appear to be logged in as root (system administrator).02:14
guillermoi have been there but the dont change02:15
OptimusRexthe reason is that I cannot log into my machine. It accepts my password and makes like it is login in but then returns to the log in screen02:15
SlimeyPeteah right, I see.02:15
SlimeyPetefair enough.02:15
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OptimusRexI need to get into my machine02:15
OptimusRexjucato suggested that may be I'm out of space02:15
OptimusRexso I need to free up some space02:15
SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: Unlikely. Type "df -h" to see how much free space you have on your drives.02:16
LynoureOptimusRex: and  df  verified that, I assume?02:16
BluesKajguillermo, have you logged out and in ?02:17
OptimusRexit showed I'm using 100%02:17
SlimeyPeteWow. Small drives?02:17
SlimeyPeteok... well once you're in your home directory you can use "cd" to go into directories within your home02:17
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llutzOptimusRex: rm -rf ~/pr0n :))  (no, don't do that!!)02:18
guillermoblues sjy yeah i am logged in02:18
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guillermoBluesKaj yes i'm logged in02:19
guillermoit's werid02:19
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guillermoanother erros i get is amsn, has huge fonts, and when i try t enter amns preference menu it just gets me an error window with nthing in it02:20
BluesKajhave you relogged out and in sunce you tried to change the fonts and were you in admin mode when made the changes ?02:20
harsha_hi02:20
OptimusRexI'm in optimus and it shows there is a directory called Kubocuments but when I cd that it says no such file or directory02:21
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guillermobluesKaj yes i tried that agian02:23
OptimusRexI am guessing I should be typing cd ~Kubocuments to get into Kubocuments. Is that right guys?02:23
llutzcd Kubocuments02:23
SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: nope02:23
SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: are you sure you're typing it correctly? It's case-sensitive.02:23
OptimusRexLet me give it another try02:24
SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: you can type the first few letters and press tab to complete the rest, by the way02:24
SlimeyPetethat helps to cut down on spelling errors :)02:24
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OptimusRextried typing it right and it still says that 'bash: cd: ~Kubocuments: No such file or directory'02:26
llutzOptimusRex: cd Kubocuments02:26
guillermouck it02:26
llutzOptimusRex: without ~02:26
guillermoi opened adept manager nut the fint is so little i dont see shit02:26
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SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: ~ is short-hand for home directory. So "cd ~Kubocuments" will ask the system to go to the home directory of a user called Kubocuments.02:27
dromercan someone help me configure vmware-player? I'm running sudo /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl atm, but I'm stuck at: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 02:27
dromerthe default doesn't seem to work02:27
OptimusRexI'm in thanks. Now how do I delete 'audio'?02:28
SlimeyPetego to /usr/src and find the correct directory, it's probably be "linux-2.6.20-15" or something02:28
llutzOptimusRex: sure you want delete the entire directory? "rm -rf audio"02:28
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OptimusRexI want to delete the whole directory since I know it's not important02:29
SlimeyPetedromer: ^^02:29
llutzOptimusRex:then "rm -rf audio"02:29
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OptimusRexit's back to the prompt does that mean that the job is done?02:30
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llutzOptimusRex: yes02:30
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llutzOptimusRex: df -h says what nowabout your usage?02:31
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OptimusRexstill showing at 100% but now 304M available02:31
OptimusRexbut it shows that I have 73 G but using 69G how can tha be 100%?02:32
llutzOptimusRex: 5G reserverd for root-usage02:32
c1|freakydiscspace reserved for root?02:32
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llutzOptimusRex: users never should be able to fill a filesystem to 100%. therefore there always is some space reservered for root (to be able to do some maintenance)02:33
guillermo_now somethings very worng with this02:33
guillermo_i have kaffeine open but i cant see it02:34
guillermo_i hear the musi and all02:34
guillermo_but i dont see the program and there is no icon in the tray02:34
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OptimusRexso what have I done? May be this is a first. I'm making history here lol02:34
SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: how big is your partition?02:35
llutzOptimusRex: you filled the user-allowed space of the filesystem.02:35
OptimusRexmy hard disk is about 80G and I only use about 1G for swap02:36
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SlimeyPeteOptimusRex: does df -h show a 70GB+ partition?02:38
JuJuBeeMorning all.  I'm still trying to deal with a problem from yesterday.  I am unable to manage user accounts on a new install after an upgrade yesterday... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23115/ Can someone assist?02:38
sercikHi guys! how do you do?02:38
guillermo??02:38
SlimeyPetecos it'd be impressive if you'd managed to fill up 80GB without realizing ;)02:38
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OptimusRexSlimeyPete: the rootfs is 73G02:41
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dromerSlimeyPete: hmm, now I get: tar: /usr/lib/vmware-player/modules/source/vmmon.tar: Cannot open: No such file or directory02:41
Muz`:D02:41
Muz`gm02:41
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Muz`Guys, i got a question02:43
Muz`How can i make Kubuntu02:43
Muz`:P oops typo02:43
Muz`how can i make superkaramba02:43
Muz`startup if i reboot02:43
Muz`automatic02:44
SlimeyPetedromer: Hmm. I'd do a dpkg-reconfigure on the package if I were you.02:44
SlimeyPetelooks like the source code for one of the modules is missing02:44
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dromerhmm02:45
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david_help me please02:45
dromerSlimeyPete: what package do I need te reconfigure then/02:46
SlimeyPetedromer: vmware-player, assuming you're using the package that the Ubuntu repositories provide02:47
dromeryes02:47
dromerSlimeyPete: hmm: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: vmware-player is broken or not fully installed02:47
llutzdromer: + vmware-player-kernel-modules-XXXX   according to your kernel02:47
david_help me please02:48
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SlimeyPetedromer: tbh, I never actually managed to get the package installed myself. I got different errors, mind.02:48
SlimeyPeteI just gave up and used VirtualBox02:48
dromerhaha, ok02:48
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dromerllutz: hmm, didn't work02:48
dromer!virtualization02:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about virtualization - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:49
guillermokaffeine, playing a video only shows me a thine line in the middle of the screen anyone? any idea how to fix that?02:49
dromer!virtualisation02:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about virtualisation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:49
llutzdromer: is your kernel-versions 2.6.20-16? then the package is vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-1602:49
dromerhmm, I know he knows more :P02:49
dromerllutz: yes I did the reconfigure on that, but I still get an error on the vmware configure.pl02:49
dromer!virtualizers02:50
ubotuThere are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications02:50
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llutzdromer: try "vmware-player-kernel-source " too02:51
dromer!QEmu02:51
ubotuqemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo02:51
OptimusRexTell me Slimey Pete why do I keep getting no such file or directory even if I type in the words correctly? Am I missing something? What was that shortcut you said about tab02:51
david_in what directory is xorg.conf?02:51
david_?02:51
david_help me please02:51
jmjonesi'm trying to get konqueror to open links in the currently open window in a new tab when i click on links from kmail.  i have konqueror allegedly configured to do this with the configure->web behavior->tabbed browsing->"open links in new tab" and the configure->web behavior->tabbed browsing->advanced->"open as tab in existing konqueror when url is called externally"02:51
llutzdavid_: /etc/X1102:51
jmjonesdavid_: /etc/X1102:51
dromerllutz: can't reconfigure that02:51
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jmjonesso - how do i get new links from creating a new konqueror if that doesn't do it?02:52
llutzdromer: it is already installed?02:52
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ace_suaresdavid_: /etc/X1102:52
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JuJuBeeCan anybody help me fix kcontrol(user management) or usercofig?  Both will not work and I need to modify user accounts...02:53
dromerllutz: yes, I was running /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl when I got the errors02:54
guillermoanyone having trouble with amsn?02:54
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llutz <dromer> SlimeyPete: hmm, now I get: tar: /usr/lib/vmware-player/modules/source/vmmon.tar: Cannot open: No such file or directory   <- doesn't sound like installed sources02:55
david_llutz thanks02:56
david_jmjones thanks02:56
david_ace_suares thanks02:56
david_restarting X :)02:56
david_:)02:56
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llutzdromer: sudo aptitude install vmware-player-kernel-source02:58
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dromerllutz: ok, lets see if that does the trick :)02:59
kumamotodoesn't kubuntu have a vmware server thingie too02:59
OptimusRexhow do i get to the login screen from root@vampirerex:/#?02:59
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OptimusRexor at least how do I get to restart the machine?02:59
dromerOptimusRex: visual login? : $ startx  to restart: $ reboot now ; I think03:00
guillermohi kaffeine, playing a video only shows me a thin line in the middle of the screen?03:00
guillermoi'm havng a million problems woht kubuntu today03:01
dromerllutz: again I get the error, gotta go now though, will struggle with it some more later :S03:01
sercikhi boys03:01
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serciksomeone know how it is possible to add atomatically to kde menu applications that doesn't install a .desktop file?03:02
sercikmany applications create a file under /usr/shre/menu03:02
OptimusRexdromer $ startx and $ reboot now don't work. Anything else03:02
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ardchoilleOptimusRex: sudo shutdown -r now  ?03:02
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jmjonesaaahhhhh-----i found the problem that i was having.  it appears that kmail will launch a new konqueror if there's not already one running *on that desktop*03:03
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OptimusRexthanks ardchoille. It has gone into restart03:04
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ardchoilleYou're welcome :)03:04
david_no problem :)03:04
OptimusRexlet's see if freeing space will let me log into the machine03:04
david_you're welcome :)03:05
david_play to enemy territory?03:05
david_?03:05
OptimusRexhow do you guys cope with all these problems?03:05
OptimusRexnot easy using this kubuntu business03:05
dromerwe go to this channel ;)03:05
dromerOptimusRex: tis easier than you think ;) (and harder :#)03:05
MaTiAzYeah03:05
c1|freakyOptimusRex: experience and knowledge will begin to help you as soon as you've worked some time with linux ;D03:05
david_ardchoille you play to enemy territory?03:05
david_?03:05
OptimusRexbut then again it's not easy using microsoft either it keeps messing up03:05
ardchoilledavid_: I don't play games03:06
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MaTiAzI had to throw all my experience about Windows out of the window as it's of almost no use in Linux :)03:06
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david_a ok ok :)03:06
david_:)03:06
OptimusRexI see what you mean03:06
OptimusRexNow I've logged in but it shows a konsole window and not my normal login03:07
OptimusRexwhat's happening here?03:07
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OptimusRexthere's a tap saying 'shell'03:07
c1|freakyyou logged in at kdm (that login prompt (GUI))03:08
c1|freaky?03:08
c1|freakyand selected "KDE" as sessiontype?03:08
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OptimusRexI logged in at the main login window without selecting any session. It's the normal page where I login other times03:08
c1|freakyand now you're getting nothing but a window in the middle of the screen called "Shell"?03:08
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OptimusRexactually it's a blue background with a window on the top left side of the screen with some toolbar and one tab called shell. The window is clearly a Konsole window03:10
logixoulhi. I have the transKode script with latest stable amarok and libxine in Feisty. Trying to transfer an ogg track to a mp3 device. I get "track not playable in media device". Can anyone please help me fix that?03:10
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OptimusRexI've selected the 'default' session and logged in and now it seems to be doing the business.03:11
OptimusRexlet's see03:11
c1|freaky:)03:11
OptimusRexI'm in guys. Yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! E-drinks all around and on my tab03:11
OptimusRexthanks guys a million03:11
c1|freaky:D03:11
ardchoillelol03:11
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c1|freakynp u did it yourself ;p03:11
OptimusRexwith your help of course03:12
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asfakhello, everyone. This is for the first time i am coming here. I just installed Kubuntu fiesty (i am opensuse user since long). I am connected to internet using my gprs connection. Right now i am updating repositories. But the problem is my konqueror, kmail could not connect to net as normal user. Though i could do this as root. what should i do ?03:14
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OptimusRexThanks guys. I'm off to take a shower. This is the only thing I've done all day.03:15
OptimusRexbye03:15
c1|freakycya03:15
c1|freakyasfak: are you in these groups: dm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin powerdev scanner admin ?03:15
c1|freakyfirst one is adm not dm03:15
asfaklet me check...03:16
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c1|freakycmd is "groups"03:16
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asfakmy group is "adm, dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, scanner, netdev, lpadmin, powerdev, admin"03:16
c1|freakyk03:17
c1|freakyumm, i think i cant help you as ive never used any gprs connection in any way03:17
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c1|freakyu could try putting yourself in the root group but just as temporary solution if it works.03:18
asfaksee, konversation is also working. i am not a very technical user but is that anything to do with proxies etc03:18
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asfakok, i will try that...03:18
c1|freakykonversation is working and its running as your user?03:19
c1|freakynot root?03:19
c1|freakybut konqueror isnt?03:19
c1|freakymaybe KDE has problems ... try looking at the logs03:19
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asfakyes, that's the problem03:20
asfaki remember, i had the same problem in kubuntu 6.0603:20
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c1|freakyumm03:20
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c1|freakystart konqueror in a console and look at the output03:21
c1|freakymaybe it helps you fix the problem03:21
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asfakok03:21
c1|freakyi dont have any proxy so i cant tell you if it could be caused by that ... maybe ... maybe not ;p03:21
asfakfreaky, this is output "03:23
asfakASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.6/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)03:23
asfakASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.6/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)03:23
asfakASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.6/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)03:23
asfakASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.6/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)03:23
Jucato!pastebin03:23
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:23
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hufiHallo?03:25
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ahmed[ guys how to install this .. cg_toolkit,,, i have downloaded the tar.gz file but dun no how to install it plz help03:26
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ahmedhelllo03:26
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ardchoilleWhat is this in my /boot/grub/menu.lst? root=UUID=4ac0a6ed-8457-4501-bf06-6b6f10f6b0eb03:27
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ardchoilleIt used to be /dev/hda03:27
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Lynoureahmed: usually the archive file contains a README file, or the site where you got it can have instructions03:27
sercikHi!03:27
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sercikmitico _3v1n0_!!03:28
ahmedLynoure, it doesnt have,, it extracts a folder called usr , sound like a system folder cause it have a lib folder inside it and other familiar system fodlers03:28
sercikThanks for your sources.list!!!03:28
ahmedLynoure ??03:28
hufisorry im new here how are you03:28
Lynoureahmed: and the site where you got it?03:28
ahmedhttp://developer.nvidia.com/object/cg_toolkit.html#downloads03:29
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ahmedLynoure ?03:29
Jucato!uuid | ardchoille03:30
ubotuardchoille: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)03:30
Lynoureahmed: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/cg_toolkit.html right? Nvidia has support, I think.03:30
ardchoilleJucato: Thank you :)03:30
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Jucatoardchoille: basically, UUID = Universally Unique ID. a "label" that's assigned to a partition03:31
Jucatowhich never changes, unless the partition is repartitioned03:31
alansiihi everyone03:31
hufihi03:31
alansiianyone know what driver i should choose for mp160?03:32
ahmedguys do any one here have pcsx2 on ubuntu ???03:32
Lynoureahmed: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/cg_faq.html says it contains a manual, maybe that will have it03:32
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jacqueshi there03:32
jacqueshow can i fix this without restarting my computer?03:33
alansiianyone there?03:33
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ardchoillejacques: You'll have to elaborate a bit03:33
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jacquesE: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:34
alansiianyone know what driver i should choose for mp160?03:34
ardchoillejacques: Do you have adept open?03:34
fogwarhow do i view files from a external disk once i plug it in thru terminal?03:34
fogwari worded that strangely03:35
jacquesno I closed it03:35
jacquesI used to reboot the computer to fix03:35
fogwarhow do i view files in terminal from an external disk or something, once i plug it in?03:35
ahmedguys , i am trying to run pcsx2 on ubuntu and i get this error :  libCg.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, Could not Load GS plugin: plugins/libZeroGSoglr.so.0.96.203:35
ahmedi tried googling and came up with this ,, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-152684.html       plzzz help03:35
jacquesbut now i want to know if there is any way to fix it without restarting03:35
ahmedHELP PLZZ03:36
pag!fixadept03:36
ubotuIf Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:36
ahmedguyssss03:36
ahmed^^03:36
jacquesthx a lot it is fixed03:36
jacquesI have another problem I don't know if someone can help03:37
ardchoillefogwar: Once you plug in the external hd, you have to mount it and then you can browse files03:37
ardchoilleJucato: That does sound like it's going to be easier03:38
asfakfreaky, i solved the problem. i disabled the cache from html setting03:38
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c1|freaky^^03:39
jacquesI am trying to install saga rc3 It is telling me that libsaga.so is can not been find but it is there in usr/lib03:39
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fogwarardchoille: how do i find the name/location of the external?03:40
fogwarardchoille: /SEAGATE?03:40
fogwarlol03:40
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ardchoillefogwar: You can plug in the external and then, in a terminal, type: tail --lines=20 /var/log/messages03:41
ardchoilleand see if the device is listed and it's location03:41
c0redamagehi, i have a problem with gcc and KDevelop C/C++ everytime I'm trying to build a Project he exits with status 2 and can't find aclocal, but I'v installed the build essentials Package.03:42
fogwarinteresting03:42
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BluesKajjacques, find where saga rc3 is located and copy the .so file to the same directory ...03:50
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jacquesit is also in the same directory03:53
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jacquesI just copied it from there to usr/lib03:54
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PeterJBhi04:04
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serciksomeone know how to add debian menu to kde?04:05
sercikin kde many entry are missing04:05
serciki heve tried fluxbox and it shows all04:06
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Tired_How can I make smb more seamless?  I can bring up smb shares in Konq easily but I can't save directly to one in Firefox, for example...04:19
Tired_is there a way to fake integrating shares into the file system?04:20
llutzTired_: smbmount04:21
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ForgeAusis there a firefox extension to do a sidebar that shows the remote filesystem when viewing web pages?04:31
ForgeAusor one for konqi?04:31
guillermoanyone having trouble with amsn?04:34
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Tired_anyone really bored and feel lke writing me a short shell script template?04:36
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andandhi can someone please help me get my touchpad working can only use an usb mouse04:36
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soulrider_andand: i think youre gonna ahve to reconfigure xorg04:43
soulrider_but i have no idea04:43
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coolzgeekhow do i start KDM on boot?04:45
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ForgeAusthat happens automatically with kubuntu generally04:46
ForgeAusalthough if theres some problem with the xserver it may not04:46
Tired_is there a (horrifically insecure) way to embed an answer to a password challenge into a shell script?04:46
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coolzgeekHow do i start KDM on boot04:49
coolzgeekI boot into shell04:49
coolzgeekthough04:49
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chijintry sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm04:50
dr_williskdm is normally a service. how did you disable it?04:50
TooEarlyi've been having a recent problem with my vsftpd. everytime i try to start/stop/restart it, it gives me this error "500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot open config file:" anyone know what the problem is?04:51
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andandthnx04:53
Tired_I think I figured it out...brb04:54
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slow-motionhallo04:55
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mcgregorhello duds05:01
mcgregori have a problem with my dvd05:01
mcgregori just bought it05:01
mcgregorand i don't know how to make it running05:02
mcgregorcan someone help me??05:02
SlimeyPeteis it a video?05:02
mcgregorno05:02
mcgregorit is dvd-rw05:02
SlimeyPeteoh... you mean a dvd drive?05:03
mcgregoryeah05:03
SlimeyPetedoes your BIOS recognise it when you boot up?05:03
mcgregorwait a sec05:03
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mcgregorsorry05:04
mcgregori were talking on the phone05:04
mcgregori never used a dvd drive on linux05:04
Skunkif the bios does recognize it, you might have to manually mount it. sometimes kubuntu doesnt auto-mount optical drives05:04
mcgregorok05:04
mcgregorthanks alot dud05:05
Skunkit would probably be /dev/cdrom0 or /dev/cdrom1 or something of the sort05:05
Skunkno prob05:05
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mcgregori will try fix i it05:05
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jose-angelwww.terra.es05:05
nosrednaekimmcgregor: do you know how to manually mount?05:06
mcgregornope05:06
mcgregorman i know how to use  linux but i am not a master05:07
nosrednaekimwell, what kind of DVD is it? is it data?05:07
mcgregorit's a dvd drive05:07
nosrednaekimmcgregor: haha... I understand05:07
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mcgregordvd drive ASUS05:07
nosrednaekimyeah, I know but what kind of DVD is in it? data? or a movie?05:08
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SlimeyPetemcgregor: you'll need to put a disc in it before kubuntu will auto-mount it, I think?05:08
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mcgregorok05:08
mcgregori shal try that now05:08
mcgregorthx05:08
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mallizeanyone have a cedega promotional code i can use?  i don't mind paying for it, if it works.05:11
neo_I just installed ubuntu, added kde(so it'll run ubuntu or kubuntu if i want) and was wondering about getting a windows vista theme, i see em all over when i google "kde vista theme" or "kubuntu vista theme", but can't find one that i can install.  does ne1 know where to get one?05:11
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ForgeAusmallize cedega itself does work, but the application your trying to use it for may not05:13
linenoisemallize: freakin leach05:13
linenoisemallize: pony up and support the selfless developers.  Don't you have a heart?  A conscience?05:13
mallizehaha05:14
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ForgeAusmallize, I'd listen if I were you people here can be quite serious about FOSS related issues and licencing, etc...05:14
SlimeyPeteI dunno 'bout selfless. They're paid to do it, aren't they? Transgaming is a company...05:14
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drknshello05:14
SlimeyPetehi.05:14
ForgeAusslimey, I think so, and some of the funds go towards wine right?05:14
drknsi would like to play mov files but kaffeine freezes and wont play05:15
SlimeyPeteForgeAus: I doubt it05:15
mallizelinenoise is a co-worker..05:15
mallizelol05:15
SlimeyPeteForgeAus: I think they contribute some code when they feel like it05:15
rmd_drkns: get VLC.  far superior05:15
ForgeAusoh ok... I knew there was some relationship there05:15
drknsk rmd thx05:15
linenoiseOh.  There's a relationship.05:15
mallizei contribute code..... to fix his code05:15
mallize:))05:15
linenoiseHAH!05:15
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guillermohello does anyone uses amsn?05:16
ForgeAusguiller I'm sure some people do05:17
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ForgeAusI just don't happen to be one of them05:17
fogwar!dmesg05:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:17
ForgeAus!info dmesg05:18
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ubotuPackage dmesg does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas05:18
ForgeAusguess it just isn't feisty enough05:18
fogwarlol05:18
nosrednaekimAsh-Fox: there's one on getdeb.com05:18
nosrednaekimlol.05:19
nosrednaekimdmesg is FAR too outdated/05:19
Ash-Foxnosrednaekim, I made two seperate builds specifically for edgy and feisty either way.05:19
ForgeAusgetdeb.com sounds interesting05:19
fogwarnosrednaekim: ok can u help then? im trying to mount my seagate external HD so i can view the files in terminal, but cant find the name of the drive05:19
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spawn57there's an apt-get.org but that's mostly for debian05:19
JohnFlux_Riddell: quick, package qt4.3 :-)05:19
fogwarits called SEAGATE but my gnome partition viewer isnt showing up under admin for some reason, which is another prob im having05:19
nosrednaekimfogwar: yeah... it doesn't appear in dmesg?05:19
spawn57linenoise: you and me both, breather05:19
Ash-FoxAnd getdeb.com doesn't work05:20
JohnFlux_Riddell: released today :-)05:20
fogwarnosrednaekim: how do i view dmesg?05:20
linenoisespawn, it'll be like aol invading the net all over again05:20
fogwarnosrednaekim: its called SEAGATE but my gnome partition viewer isnt showing up under admin for some reason, which is another prob im having05:20
nosrednaekimfogwar: gnome?05:20
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guillermowhile playing a movie with kaffeine it only shows a thinline in the middle?05:20
guillermoi tryed unistalling and intalling again but it does not work05:20
Ash-FoxAnyhow, if anyone is interested, they're available at: edgy: deb http://packages.quickfox.org/ ubuntu-edgy/     or feisty: deb http://packages.quickfox.org/ ubuntu-feisty/05:20
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nosrednaekimfogwar: "dmesg"on the command line. look at the last lines05:20
ForgeAusguillermo? what kind of movie? have you tried other movies?05:21
ForgeAusother codecs?05:21
JelleHi, little question, where can I find the requirements of kubuntu?05:21
guillermoit is been like that since this morning05:21
linenoisefogwar: dmesg or possibly look at the end of /var/log/messages05:21
guillermoi saw the movie yesterday05:21
ForgeAusdoes it work on other systems fine? or does it show a thin like there too?05:21
nosrednaekimJelle: the system requirements?05:21
guillermothen this morning i wanted to see another movie, and it didnot work05:21
ForgeAusok sounds like you ddid something to corrupt the codec or something05:21
Jelleindeed nosrednaekim05:21
guillermoso i tried the same movie i watched yesterday and it did not work either05:21
linenoiseJelle: what kind of requirements?  I believe the kubuntu site has a list of the hardware necessary.  It's fairly modest.05:21
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nosrednaekimJelle: I'd say a 700Mhz processor, and at least 256 MB ram.05:22
ForgeAusguillermo do you have vlc?05:22
Jelleow05:22
nosrednaekim1ghz would be better05:22
ForgeAusmaybe try installing that?05:22
nosrednaekimJelle: go xubuntu if you have less05:22
Jelledoes anyone know a linux for 400MHz?:p (just a new commputer05:22
guillermoif i make kaffeine run wtih the mebbeded player for kde, then it works, but trying xine engine again, and the line is back05:22
Jelleah, xubuntu, lets see05:22
ForgeAusan/or reinstalling codec packages in Adept05:22
guillermoyes i do have vlc, but kaffeine works better05:22
guillermoand the file does work on vlc,05:23
nosrednaekimJelle: xubuntu should run like a charm on 400Mhx05:23
nosrednaekim*mhz05:23
ForgeAusthen reinstall the kaffeine package!05:23
ForgeAussee if that helps05:23
guillermoalready done that05:23
ForgeAussomething is messed up, either corruption or configuration is screwed05:23
guillermo=(05:23
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guillermoi did not change the configuration bu it might be that i thaought that uninstalling and reinstalling might get it to default  but it did not05:24
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Jelleok, I just see how much ram, but I believe you that 400MHz 'll be good, thanks, no just get the computer in one piece:p05:25
hangthedjguillermo: reconfigure it with dpkg-reconfigure.05:25
guillermoim new on lnux (a week)05:26
guillermoi guess that would be a comman line to be run05:26
nosrednaekimJelle: how much ram do you have?05:26
DeBertI want to use two dictionaries at once in KDE, Dutch and English. The switching between languages for spell checking gets annoying after a while. Is this possible, using multiple languages at once?05:26
guillermocould you be more eplecit so i dont mess things up more05:26
jacquescan someone help me05:26
Jelleon this moment: none :p05:26
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Jellejust get the PC from a friend, just a mainboard, power supply, CD-reader, and that's it :p05:27
Jelleno HD, no ram05:27
Jelle:p05:27
Skunkjelle: got a question for ya. does it impact system performance if you use 32 bit kubuntu on 64 bit hardware?05:27
jacquesI am having a problem with one of mey softwares05:27
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jacquessaga gis05:27
jacques./saga_gui: error while loading shared libraries: libsaga_api.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:27
hangthedjguillermo: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kaffeine'05:27
jacquesafter installing that is what I am getting05:28
Jelleno idea Skunk , but I think so05:28
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Skunkheh05:28
nosrednaekimDeBert: no thats not possble ATM, KDE4 will include that functionality05:28
SlimeyPeteSkunk: no, not really.05:28
Jellelittle bit?05:28
Jelle:p05:28
llutzSkunk: if you have more than 4GB RAM maybe05:28
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nosrednaekimSkunk: there is VERY little performance difference05:28
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SlimeyPeteSkunk: a 64-bit kernel will run a little faster for some apps but for general desktop usage there won't be any noticeable difference05:28
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DeBertnosrednaekim: Can't wait... :)05:28
Skunkcool05:29
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nosrednaekimDeBert: neither can I...(but not for the same reason)05:29
guillermohangthedj i did that, but it did not work05:29
nosrednaekimfogwar: did you get it working?05:30
Skunki was just wondering because i had accidentally installed the x86 version, i have amd64 lol. and ive noticed even things like xmms are taking up 50% of my cpu at times05:30
nosrednaekimSkunk: heh05:30
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guillermoit did not work05:31
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nosrednaekimguillermo: whats wrong again?05:34
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Skunki believe its his dvd drive05:34
guillermokaffeine using xine engine05:34
guillermoit shos a thin line in the middle of the screen while playing a video05:34
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guillermoi reinstalled, reconfigures, both xine engine and kaffeine and stil does not work05:35
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nosrednaekimsorry guillermo could you PLEASE send the problem again?05:35
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guillermoi try to play a video with kaffeine using xine angine, but it only shows a thin line in the middle of the screen, sounds is ok,05:36
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guillermoi have reinstalled, and reconfigured, but no succes05:36
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nosrednaekimguillermo: did you try any other video playing app?05:37
hangthedjyou could always try uninstalling with the --purge command and then reinstalling.05:37
guillermoyes!. the movie works good on vlc05:37
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Skunkof course. vlc ftw =)05:37
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lsprocvmware-server is ignoring the gtk qt engine thing, so it uses the raeligh engine, how do i make it use the gtk-qt engine?05:37
nosrednaekimguillermo: is there some reason why you can't use vlc instead of kaffeine?05:37
guillermothe quality is poor in vlc05:38
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guillermoit hacks in vlc05:39
ForgeAusyou can use dreamscapes for windows using vlc! (just set it to run as bakcground wallpaper)05:39
nosrednaekimguillermo: it could be your video acceration thats causing the problems in BOTH.05:39
Skunkyah it could be05:39
nosrednaekimwhat engine (inside xine) are you using?05:39
Skunkor your video drivers05:40
guillermohow do i iuse that05:40
guillermowell i been having a bunch of problems today05:40
guillermoit might be all of them a corealted???05:40
nosrednaekimguillermo: what type of video card do you have?05:40
guillermohere is the list05:40
guillermoradeon 960005:40
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Skunk9600 should be fine. do you have the fglrx driver?05:41
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nosrednaekimguillermo: yeah, what driver are you using?05:41
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guillermothe login screen is diminute, i can barely see the letters, the after logging in, the font everywhere where diminute aswell, i changed that but the log-in screen is still diminute,05:41
Skunkif you're using vesa, thats your culprit05:41
sandro__ciao...a tutti05:41
nosrednaekimSkunk: lol, I have a junky old Xpress200 and HD even plays fine.05:41
guillermowhen opening amsn, the letters are huge, and i get an error all the time, an error warning that is, with nothing inside,05:42
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guillermoand thet that with kaffeine?05:42
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nosrednaekimguillermo: sounds like some sort of graphics driver problem.05:42
nosrednaekimguillermo: are you using the fglrx driver?05:42
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guillermoi was cheking that, and yes i am05:43
guillermoi am gona  try recongigure it05:43
guillermothe konsole says it is not installed i used the line dpkg-reconfigure fglrx05:44
nosrednaekim I don't think its called that....05:44
nosrednaekimnot sure though... see if you have the program "aticonfig"05:45
guillermowhat is it called?05:45
Skunktype aticonfig in the command line05:45
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guillermoi tyoed that and a menu came up05:47
guillermowhat do i do now?05:47
Skunkif you do, then try sudo apt-get reconfigure fglrx-driver05:47
Skunki believe thats what it was. im trying to check but IE keeps locking up when i go to the ati wiki05:48
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guillermoinvalid operation reconfigure, it says05:48
titanix88hendaus_: :)05:48
Skunktry completely removing it then start from scratch05:49
guillermofrom adept?05:49
Skunklemme get you a link05:49
hangthedjdon't do apt-get reconfigure do dpkg-reconfigure05:49
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nosrednaekimguillermo: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-driver-fglrx"05:49
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Skunklemme get you a link05:49
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savetheWorldHi, anyone know of a web page that tells how to set up a cache-only local DNS server ?05:51
Skunkguillermo: do you have edgy or fiesty05:51
guillermoi dont remeber05:51
guillermo7.0405:51
guillermoi guess...05:51
nosrednaekimfiesty05:51
ForgeAusthats feisty05:51
ForgeAus6.10 is edgy05:52
Skunkhttp://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide05:52
nosrednaekimooh.. wonder what happened there^^05:53
Skunkjust run through the beginning part, and the installing the ubuntu way05:53
dr_willisNext will be Greasy Gibbon05:53
dr_willis:)05:53
Skunkthen the configuring05:53
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Skunkdont worry about the manual install05:53
nosrednaekimgutsy!05:53
nosrednaekimwere not slippery..05:54
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savetheWorldI'm want to set up a cache-only local DNS server on Kubuntu Edgy.  Anyone got any pointers?05:55
llutzsavetheWorld: dnsmasq might what you need05:55
savetheWorldllutz: what is dnsmasq?   (no man page)05:56
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hangthedjsavetheWorld: i just found this searching google.com/linux05:56
hangthedjhttp://langfeldt.net/DNS-HOWTO/BIND-9/05:56
llutzsavetheWorld: dnsmasq - A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP server05:56
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savetheWorldllutz: ok.05:57
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nosrednaekimok, If I have a dependency that I DON"T want to get, but the main package will install and run without it, how do I blacklist that dependency?05:59
Skunkinstall webmin on it. then access it by the internal ip port 10000, set up your dns/bind easily in there05:59
savetheWorldhangthedj: thanks.  I'm hoping to get there via the kubuntu admin tools since the locataions and names of the various administrative/service configuring files vary so much from distro to distro.  That makes it hard for How-To docs to match up to a given release.  With the result that following them cam actually mess up your system05:59
dr_willishttps://localhost:10000  for webmin even - if i recall05:59
savetheWorldSkunk: was that for me?05:59
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Skunkyah06:00
Skunkthats how i did mine06:00
savetheWorldgracias.06:00
Skunkno prob06:00
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savetheWorldPackage webmin is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package webmin has no installation candidate06:02
savetheWorldSkunk: what release are you on?06:02
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llutzsavetheWorld: webmin was taken from debian long time ago (for good reasons)06:02
savetheWorldllutz: Ja, I'd not heard to much praise for it.06:03
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savetheWorlddoesn't install anyway.06:03
Skunkim on edgy06:04
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Skunki installed it fine a while back on ubuntu edgy with the server edition06:04
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Jelleso, just need a harddrive :p06:04
Skunktry using aptitude instead of apt-get and see if that pulls it up06:04
Jelledoes the live CD need a harddrive?06:04
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Skunkjelle: nope <306:05
Jelleo, cool06:05
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Ash-FoxLess than three!06:06
Jellethen I 've my RAM I can starting to check if it works :)06:06
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nosrednaekimJelle: how much ram?06:06
JelleI hope 256MB06:06
Jelledon't know what I'll get06:07
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kaneOn almost every karamba theme i use it always shows my network use as very spikey, like ever sec it drops to zero then back up to whatever it actually is.06:08
kaneWhat the heck would cause that?06:08
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BWolf85ah guys im so angry right now06:09
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=== Skunk steals a marshmallow from savetheWorld
savetheWorldhey!06:11
Skunk>:306:11
BWolf85hey save the world06:11
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savetheWorldBWolf85: yes?06:12
BWolf85whats wrong skunk06:12
BWolf85just saying hello06:12
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savetheWorldYou'll have to eat your way out.......06:12
BWolf85guys im angry06:13
Skunkwolf: why are ya angry?06:13
savetheWorldBWolf85: what happened?06:13
BWolf85ive been working so im stuck using winders06:13
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BWolf85have to get my site done06:13
Skunkheh06:14
Skunkim stuck in windows right now =(06:14
Skunkit sucks06:14
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BWolf85yah i wish i was done with my site now...i hate rebuilding hah06:14
Skunkim at work and IE is completely intergrated into everthing. not only am i in windows, i have to use IE06:15
DJServerswhy dont just install a script like phpbb or phpfusion?06:15
BWolf85what do u mean djservers06:15
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DJServerswell i have sites (many) and i just installed a site script like phpfusion: www.phpfusion.co,uk06:16
DJServerso06:16
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DJServerswrong site06:16
BWolf85to do what? i have vbulletin06:16
BluesKajwindows must be tolerated since so many ppl (incuding friends) use it , and in some instances where linux is a bit rough around the edges, windows is needed06:16
lilmurdokhi06:16
savetheWorldBluesKaj: Heretic!  :-)06:16
DJServerswell i have jused it for selling thing or just for fun or what ever06:16
lilmurdokhi all06:16
joshjola2002please help06:16
BluesKajno , just tolerant , savetheWorld :)06:17
lilmurdoki have a problem06:17
joshjola2002can someone help compile a driver package06:17
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joshjola2002please help06:17
lilmurdokca someone help me06:17
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Ar-PharazonHello... I was going to install 32 bit kubuntu instead of 64 bit kubuntu I have, but I'm impatient and I swapped KDE for gnome before doing that.06:17
BWolf85dj want to tell me an opinion of my site06:17
lilmurdokplease06:17
BluesKajjst ask yer question06:17
joshjola2002or how to run an *.exe file on kubuntu06:18
DJServersBWolf85: what you mean?06:18
Jucato!ask06:18
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:18
joshjola2002help06:18
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joshjola2002please06:18
BWolf85give me an opinion of my site so far06:18
DJServersok give the link06:18
Jucato!wine | joshjola200206:18
ubotujoshjola2002: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:18
lilmurdoki have a problem  with my dvd-writer06:18
Ar-PharazonI didn't install 32 bit yet and now I have the Kubuntu splash but the ubuntu login screen... I'm confused.06:18
Jucatojoshjola2002: you will need to install wine06:18
joshjola2002what's that06:18
BWolf85DJS: http://www.eightyfiveonline.com06:18
DJServersjust type in console: sudo apt-get install wine06:18
DJServersok06:19
lilmurdoktoday i buy the dvd-writer06:19
ForgeAusfor windows apps you can often use a virtual machine (like VMware and run windows inside that)06:19
BluesKajsavetheWorld, well, if that's the case you'll never save the world ...tolerance is a prerquisite06:19
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Jucatojoshjola2002: it will allow you to run **some** Windows programs (*.exe files)06:19
lilmurdokand i dont now what to do06:19
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jthomaslook into Seamless Virtualization for running Windows Apps on Windows inside Linux, very cool06:19
Ar-PharazonShould I install 32 bit Ubuntu or 32 bit Kubuntu?06:20
joshjola2002I'm trying to install my drivers for my NIC card06:20
Skunkpharazon: that depends. do you like gnome or kde?06:20
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joshjola2002I'm confused on how to compile them06:20
Skunkubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde06:20
BWolf85i <3 kunbuntu06:20
ennishola06:20
Skunki less than three it06:20
ennishay alguien que hable spaol?06:20
DJServersBWolf85: Well looks good so far ;)06:20
jthomas!es |ennis06:20
ubotuennis: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:20
joshjola2002hey there's no such thing as wine06:20
Jucato!es | ennis06:20
Ar-PharazonI'd like to try gnome first. KDE was a tad overwhelming for a clueless noob.06:20
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Jucatojoshjola2002: what are you trying to compile?06:21
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BluesKajyeah savetheWorld , it went right over my head :)06:21
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Ar-PharazonBut I just apt-get gnome'd and then removed KDE... Does that mean I have ubuntu now? Because it says kubuntu when booting.06:21
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jthomas!splash06:21
ubotuTo change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.06:21
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JucatoAr-Pharazon: install ubuntu-desktop06:21
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MaTiAzAr-Pharazon: I started with KDE, I got an old Pentium 200MHz when I was like 11 years old, then I installed suse on it, with KDE :) It wasn't so overwhelming :P06:21
Skunkpharazon: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop06:22
joshjola2002please help06:22
joshjola2002please06:22
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joshjola2002can't figure this thing out06:22
Skunkjoshjola: is it a tar.gz?06:22
Jucatojoshjola2002: what are you trying to do? what are yo compiling?06:22
jthomasjoshjola2002: do you have all of your 'repositories' turned on?  you need them for wine.06:22
savetheWorldjoshjola2002: you have to install wine.  people in here dont lie.06:22
jthomas!repositories06:22
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:22
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Skunkjosh: ah. sorry bout that06:23
Skunkyay. sudo apt-get install wine06:23
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jthomasjoshjola2002: what is the .exe application that you are trying?06:23
Ar-PharazonWell, I guess I'm not as fast a learner...06:23
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Ar-PharazonSo what will "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" do again?06:23
JucatoAr-Pharazon: what the bootsplash display doesn't affect what you eventually login to06:24
JucatoAr-Pharazon: ubuntu-desktop will install the packages and settings that make up a default Ubuntu installation06:24
BWolf85is there a website irc channel?06:24
ForgeAusabout that seemless thing jtomas, do you need to be running the vm as well as rdesktop at the same time?06:24
ForgeAusif so why not just run the vm?06:24
ForgeAusor do you need two pcs?06:24
jthomasAr-Pharazon: it will install Ubuntu, and overwrite the splash screen to use the Ubuntu version, instead of Kubuntu's splash06:24
ForgeAusI don't get where XP is running to use a Remote desktop to connect to it from06:24
joshjola2002yup06:24
Ar-PharazonThen I dl and install 32 bit ubuntu, correct?06:24
JucatoAr-Pharazon: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome06:25
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joshjola2002it is tar.gz06:25
DJServerswhat the uninstall command again i forgot it :P06:25
Skunkno. apt-getting ubuntu-desktop will install the complete ubuntu gnome system06:25
jthomasForgeAus: yes, a VM (in VMWare or in Qemu) and rDesktop; the difference is that it runs just one application and the needed libraries in Windows, rather than all of Windows.06:25
Ar-PharazonBut it will be 64 bit ubuntu right? I want 32 bit.06:25
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jthomasAr-Pharazon: if you're running 64 now, it'll install 64.06:25
Jucato!compile | joshjola200206:26
ubotujoshjola2002: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:26
ForgeAushehe I  have all 3 Virtual Box, VMware and Qemu06:26
jthomasAr-Pharazon: to switch to 32 you'd need to download a new iso, burn it, and reinstall :(06:26
Ar-PharazonI see.06:26
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Ar-PharazonAnd cross my fingers and hope and pray to whatever dark god is listening that my windowses will still boot?06:26
jthomasForgeAus: try it out, its great!  Install the Windows Human theme for a bit better fit...06:26
DJServers!uninstall06:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
joshjola2002i'm viewing it06:27
ForgeAusjthomas, not for KDE06:27
joshjola2002but i can't figure it out06:27
DJServerswhats the uninstall command again?????06:27
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Skunksudo apt-get remove package06:27
BluesKajseamless virtualization is just a system browser running in a virtual OS ?06:27
joshjola2002i don't knw what are the switches for gcc06:27
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jthomasForgeAus: true, but at least its _less_ MS-like...06:28
ForgeAushehe I don't mind M$-like06:28
Ar-PharazonOk thanks for the help, I'll be off now.06:28
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ForgeAusbut then I'm an equal-opportunity OS enthusiast...06:28
jthomaslol06:28
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ForgeAusadmittedly some are more equal than others lol06:29
jthomashere you go ForgeAus and BluesKaj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization06:29
DJServers!lampp06:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
DJServers!xampp06:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
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DJServersomfg06:29
DJServers!apache06:29
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:29
jthomas!lamp06:29
ForgeAusbeen there jthomas06:30
jthomasok06:30
ForgeAusthat also links to the human theme06:30
ForgeAusI wouldn't tarnish the windows-look with a gnome-look...06:30
ForgeAusa KDE look for a VM would be interesting tho06:30
GenecksI can't get my time to change into 12 hours. I don't want military time.06:31
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jthomasGenecks: look in the KDE System Settings.  But its not Military Time in the rest of the world, just in the USA...06:32
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jthomaswhere everything is military...06:32
ForgeAusyou guys don't use AM/PM?06:32
savetheWorldForgeAus: he's kidding06:33
GenecksWe do use AM/PM...06:33
savetheWorldForgeAus: I think he's referring to the current assministration in the white house06:33
GenecksLast time I checked...06:33
GenecksLast time I saw the sun...06:33
Geneckslol06:33
jthomasI am kidding and I am referring to our president, but no i don't use AM/PM06:33
GenecksAlright, so where in system settings do I go to change this stuff?06:33
ForgeAusAnte meridian, Post Meridian right?06:33
GenecksAh, nevermind.06:34
GenecksI'll switch my question, because I rather tackle this other problem.06:34
ForgeAusits actually panel settings06:34
GenecksI type too fast, and I'm lazy and unethical; I use the caps lock instead of shift.06:34
ForgeAusnot system settings (although I think you can get to panels in there)06:35
GenecksIs there anyway to speed up my keyboard's interpreation of commands.06:35
ForgeAusjust right click the clock06:35
BluesKajjthomas, that doesn't really answer my question...one still has to install another windows os. Im looking for something ,that runs off an existing ntfs partition, in Linux.06:35
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GenecksSOmetimes my capslock doesn't turn off fast enough. See?06:35
jthomasGenecks: KDE System Settings -> Regional & Language -- set time (am/pm/24) there06:35
ForgeAusBlues? concurrent OS's?06:36
BluesKajWine works with some things but not all06:36
BluesKajyes , ForgeAus06:36
ForgeAusthe more I use computers the more I realize NOTHING works with all!06:36
jthomasBluesKaj: i have used VMWare from my installed hda1 Windows, but i forgot how and i medded it up once and never went back...06:36
ForgeAusadmittedly I'd like to see MacOSX86 tho....06:36
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dr_willisi got osx running in a vmware session. :)06:37
BluesKajnot a fan of VM ware and qemu...virtual box is beyond my install abilities and patience, just waaay too clunky06:38
dr_willisgee . i thought virtualbox was rather trivial to install.06:38
dr_willisi found vmware worked better for me then Virtualbox however06:38
BluesKajwell maybe for you06:38
jthomasBluesKaj: so what are you looking to do?06:38
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BluesKajdifficult for me06:38
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basseRiddell: or here..06:39
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dr_willisHmm installing vbox was a dpkg -i the package, and set your users to the right group. then logout/back in... oh well..06:39
GenecksI forgot the three-finger salute06:39
GenecksAlright, it's working now.06:39
BluesKajI'd just like to get some apps like neotrace to work in linux .xtraceroute sucks06:39
GenecksDomo arigatou gozaimasu.06:39
jthomasBluesKaj: you want Windows apps, without Wine, without VMWare, without Qemu... why not use Windows?06:40
GenecksThank you, very much.06:40
BluesKajhehe, jthomas ...I do :)06:40
jthomastoo bad ;)06:40
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dr_willis:)06:40
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BluesKajjthomas, I wouldn't mind if they worked in Wine06:40
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jthomasno idea06:41
Riddellbasse: hi06:41
jthomasi've not really used a windows program in a long time, except Spybot about 100x a week...06:41
BluesKajit's not a biggie on my agenda anyway , but tit would be nice06:41
dr_willisrun spybot s&d under wine06:41
BluesKajit06:41
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BluesKajnah , why, not needed06:42
jthomasdr_willis: no, on client computers that, forwhatever reason, use Windows06:42
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househi everyone06:42
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jthomashi house!06:43
BluesKajbe nice if konversation was available on windows06:43
GenecksDoes having multiple desktops take up lots of RAM?06:43
GenecksI'm using two, because it looks cool.06:43
jthomasGenecks: define 'a lot'... but i don't think so...06:43
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GenecksBy a lot, I mean a large percentage. For instance, does each desktop create its own environment?06:44
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dr_willisGenecks,  it dont work that way06:44
GenecksHow are the environments shared between the operating system? What effect...06:44
BluesKajksysguard, Genecks06:44
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dr_willisnow running 2 X instances - can work that way06:44
Skunkshouldnt take up too much ram. only thing that takes up ram are the programs, apps, and processes. extra desktops are just a place to store stuff :306:44
dr_willisbut each X instance can be having several virtual desktops06:44
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coreymon77Genecks: not realy, having 4 shouldnt pose any problem06:45
Skunkalways wanted to do that. kde and gnome at the same time <306:45
coreymon77Genecks: just dont have 2006:45
dr_willisSkunk,  rather trivial. :) i done it int he past with vnc so i could see both at same time06:45
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GenecksI think at most I would have 6.06:46
GenecksI wonder, though, would an automated script being able to run in the background with desktops in the background?06:46
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Genecksbe able to run in the background*06:47
GenecksWould it interfere if I were to browse the Internet?06:47
coreymon77Genecks: ya, no problem06:47
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coreymon77Genecks: not in the slightest06:47
llutzGenecks: log into a console, "startx -- :1 vt8"06:47
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GenecksFor example, I want to edit some images in GIMP.06:48
bomberdoes anyone boot into cli instead of graphical on kubuntu?06:48
GenecksOver 500 images, to say the least.06:48
GenecksThe way I want to do this is not so easily offered by GIMP's commands, so recently I created a script on WIndows.06:48
savetheWorldbomber: yes06:49
GenecksHowever, when I run that script, it takes command of the keyboard; therefore, I can't really use that computer to browse the Internet.06:49
dr_willisGenecks,  linux mutitasks loops around wndows...06:49
dr_willissounds like you need to work on your script to make it  not do that then. :)06:49
coreymon77Genecks: kubuntu and the kde desktop environment are designed to work with multiple desktops06:49
dr_willisor have it in its own terminal window.06:49
bomberi used to be able to do it but since i upgraded a couple days ago i cant seem to get it to not show me the graphical kubuntu startup06:50
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coreymon77Genecks: they are designed to work with having multiple desktops running06:50
llutzbomber: sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove06:50
dr_willisbomber,  disable the gdm or kdm service is now i do it.06:50
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Genecksi'll be back06:51
coreymon77Genecks: obviously, the do take up ram, but the amount is extremely miniscule06:51
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bomberthats what i did but its not working this time.. it worked before ... lemme try again06:51
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DGMurdockIIhi06:59
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DGMurdockIIis there a way to make the taskbar like windows xp?07:01
jovansis there a daily build of gutsy availib.?07:01
paolo_hi. i have to install the drivers of a logitech quickcam fusion, which is supported by berlios.de. where can I donwload the associated driver? thnks07:01
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Sannejovans: you can update daily and get all new built packages07:02
coreymon77DGMurdockII: why would you want to do that? i got linux because i wanted to get away from windows07:02
jthomasDGMurdockII: the Kicker?  how would you change it, what would you want differently?  why???07:02
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DGMurdockIIwell there an easy desktop theme manger07:03
DeadS0uljthomas: i made min transperent, and enabled hiiding =D07:03
DeadS0ulDGMurdockII: yeah, in system settings07:03
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jthomasDGMurdockII: what is your goal?  you could make it small, blue, and useless, sure...07:04
jovansyes there is a daily build07:04
jovanshttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/07:04
llutzjovans: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/07:04
bomberthanks guys.... it was the menu.lst file..... i have to remove the splash reference in each kernel line... i didnt see it the last i looked.. must have been tired07:04
llutztoo late :(07:04
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coreymon77jthomas: lol07:04
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coreymon77jthomas: more like small blue and bloated07:04
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jthomaslol07:04
Sannebomber: if you remove it from the kernel lines manually, it will be back after the next kernel update07:05
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DGMurdockIIi mean like a easy theme installer for the stuff you get frum like kde-look.org07:05
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coreymon77what could be easier than just putting the download url into the kde theme manager?07:06
jthomascoreymon77: using Linspire perhaps? ;)07:06
DGMurdockIIoh that all07:06
coreymon77DGMurdockII: yup, hats all you gotta do07:06
DGMurdockIIeven if it not a full theme07:07
DGMurdockIIjust a taskbar07:07
DGMurdockIIbrb07:07
fdovingSanne, bomber, change the line: '# defoptions=quiet splash' to '# defoptions=' (do not remove the leading #), that will make update-grub not add the options to every kernel on each upgrade.07:07
jthomasi've never actually used a theme, i 'make' my own, because i too found the theme manager to be confusing to add new ones07:07
paolo_paolo@paolo-laptop:~/trunk$ sudo insmod uvcvideo.ko07:07
paolo_insmod: error inserting 'uvcvideo.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module07:07
paolo_can you help me?07:08
bomberfdoving:  in the same menu.lst file?07:08
Sannefdoving, bomber: yes, that was what I was referring to, thanks07:08
fdovingbomber: yes.07:08
coreymon77jthomas: not really, you just click on the install theme button and then copy and paste the download url for the theme you want on kdelook07:08
bombersweet.. thanks guys... Sanne it has happed each time i upgraded the kernel07:08
jthomasfor the tgz file?  or the kde-look.org page?  or??07:09
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zoohouseHello everyone07:09
coreymon77jthomas: the direct download link to the tgz file07:09
Sannebomber: yup :)07:09
jthomascool i'll have to test it07:09
jthomasthanks!07:09
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zoohouseAnyone know of a tool that will take scans of documants and convert it to text?07:09
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coreymon77jthomas: you know, the url that the "downlaod now" button links to07:09
jthomascoreymon77: yep07:10
coreymon77jthomas: thats the url07:10
jthomascoreymon77: is your last name Corey?  do you know a Jacy Corey?07:10
llutzzoohouse: clara, gocr, ocrad07:10
coreymon77zoohouse: dont expect it to be any good though07:10
coreymon77jthomas: nope07:10
jthomascoreymon77: ok ! :)07:10
zoohousellutz: thanks :)07:11
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llutzzoohouse: but remember what coreymon77 said.... :(07:11
coreymon77zoohouse: dont expect to be getting very good results from them though07:11
coreymon77zoohouse: because you arent07:11
lorenzo_ciao07:11
zoohouseThats fine07:12
zoohouseJust want to play around with them07:12
zoohousethanks again07:12
dr_willisi rember fighting with OCR stuff years and years ago. :)07:12
coreymon77dr_willis: i dont bother07:12
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dr_willisand having to explain to these engineers why they couldent just 'scan' a blueprint and get it into autocad. :)07:13
llutzzoohouse: http://groundstate.ca/ocr07:13
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coreymon77dr_willis: the type of OCR that will gett you good results07:13
dr_williswell why it woulent be a CAD drawint. :)07:13
Skunkyay food time07:13
bomberfdoving:  is that tick '  supposed to be in there... after  the line like you had?07:13
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zoohousellutz: thanks, i will check it out now07:14
fdovingbomber: no.07:14
bomberok kewl... thanks a lot07:14
c1|freakyis there any good tutorial about how to use Beryl/Compiz with Ati Drivers? I have a Laptop with a Ati Mobility x70007:14
coreymon77dr_willis:  is the type of OCR that consists of a person sitting at a computer with the thing to be OCRed typing the words07:14
ForgeAus!ati07:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:15
ForgeAusc1 that should have info on getting ATI drivers for X...07:15
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ForgeAusBeryl/Compiz is simply an installable proggy It isn't really responsible for drivers, etc...07:16
jthomashas anyone purchased a new Dell with Ubuntu yet?07:16
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coreymon77jthomas: i have a dell that had kubuntu put on it (by me)07:17
jthomascoreymon77: me too, but i was more wondering about the preinstall07:17
jthomasthe 599 laptop price is nice!  but add a better battery and screen, and suddenly that alone is too much for me :(07:18
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jthomasi wish Dell's back-of-laptop symbol lit up like a Mac laptop does; then the Dellbuntu's could have an Ubuntu logo lit up there :)07:20
jthomas(or Kubuntu)07:20
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CaBlGuY!MPG07:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:21
stanley_hi guys...everytime i try opening something that needs root access it says su returned with an error07:21
stanley_how can i fix that??07:21
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jthomasuse 'sudo'07:21
jthomas!sudo07:21
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:21
coreymon77stanley_: there is no su in *buntu07:21
coreymon77use sudo07:21
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jthomasi.e. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list07:22
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stanley_ok coreymon77...but when i click on for example adept package manager07:22
stanley_it simply says su returned with an error07:22
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coreymon77oh07:22
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housecan somebody help me with Debian Etch?07:22
coreymon77try running apt in konsole07:22
coreymon77with sudo07:22
fdovinghouse: i guess that depends on the problem.07:23
coreymon77try doing sudo apt-get update07:23
stanley_ok07:23
coreymon77see what happens07:23
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coreymon77and hurry, i gotta go soon07:24
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housethe problem is that I saw the install snapshots, and there was one Snapshot where they told that I have to enter my network details. But I have dynamic IP.07:24
stanley_coreymon77 it doesn't work07:24
Sannehouse: I would try asking in #debian.07:24
coreymon77stanley_: could you be a little more descriptive?07:25
coreymon77stanley_: hurry07:25
Rocky_dd07:25
houseokay, I 'll try07:25
stanley_it simply jumps to a new line07:25
coreymon77stanley_: that says07:25
coreymon77nothing?07:25
stanley_and when i select adept agen it returns the same error message07:25
Rocky_newbie here07:25
stanley_just an empty line07:25
stanley_nothing happens07:25
coreymon77okay07:25
coreymon77ask someone else07:25
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coreymon77i gotta go07:25
stanley_ok thanx anyway07:26
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stanley_can anyone help me with this problem??07:26
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stanley_wheneva i try to open somethign that needs root accesss it says su returned with an error07:26
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jacquesHow can I enable 3d for my sound card07:27
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Rocky_my dvd only recognizes audio cds! why07:29
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Randunehi all07:30
RanduneI have a quick question07:30
stanley_someone pleez help me07:30
Randuneis there any way to repair a ntfs filesystem from linux?07:30
stanley_i cannot use any programs that need root access07:30
RanduneI know it's not specifically kubuntu related..but07:30
Randunestanley07:30
stanley_wheneva i try opening them ir returns an error message07:30
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stanley_saying su has returned an error07:31
Randuneyou root password is the same as your user password07:31
stanley_i kno07:31
Randunevia sudo07:31
Randunek07:31
stanley_but it doesn't even allow em to enter my password07:31
Randuneare these command line progs?07:31
stanley_no gui07:31
RanduneI see07:31
stanley_like adept07:31
Randunewhat progs?07:31
Randunek07:31
Randuneit doesn't prompt you for the admin password?07:31
Randunehmm...07:32
stanley_and wheneva i have to use administrator mode in settings07:32
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stanley_no it doesn't07:32
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Randunenot quite sure07:33
Randunehmm..07:33
stanley_hmm07:33
stanley_do you kno randune how to clear adept07:33
stanley_maybe that's the problem07:33
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stanley_i can't remember the code to do so07:34
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wxrknyI am installing Kubuntu for a friend who frequently uses AIM along with several other people who use the computer. Is the any IM program that functions similarly to AIM for Kubuntu07:35
tsdgeoskopete?07:35
llutzwxrkny: gaim/pidgin07:35
Skunkyah07:35
Skunkkopete and pidgin are the 2 best07:35
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wxrknyall the ones i've checked dont have a simple log off and log on system07:35
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Randunethere are many wxrkny07:35
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Randunekopete for instance07:36
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Randunemulti-protocol07:36
bomberkopete is awesome and aim has a linux port now if you want to use aol/microshaft products07:36
stanley_ok is there anyone else hu can help me??07:36
Randunenot sure stanley07:36
Randuneyou couldn't find anything on the forums?07:36
stanley_ok07:36
wxrknyi am having issues with the AIM linux port07:36
wxrknyit wont install07:36
Skunkthe aim linux port is ugly as SIN07:36
Randuneuse kopete wrxkny07:36
Randuneyou'll probablly be better off07:36
bombertry kopete then.... its way better07:36
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wxrknyits not for me its for my friend who isnt particularly computer savy07:37
MaTiAzHmm07:37
wxrknyi am fine using GAIM/pidgin07:37
MaTiAzThe Kubuntu installer crashed :D07:37
MaTiAzWhat should I do?07:37
Randunerestart it matiaz07:37
Admiral_Chicagowxrkny: Kopeter or Pidgin (Gaim)07:37
Randunetry again07:37
Skunktry again07:37
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Skunkif it doesnt work reboot so it reloads everything then try07:37
wxrknybut other people are reluctant to learn new software07:37
MaTiAzOk07:37
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wxrknyhas anyone installed the linux port of AIM07:38
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Randunenot I wxrkny07:38
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Admiral_Chicagooh that...yea you'll have to use alien since its an RPM07:38
Admiral_Chicago!alien07:38
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)07:38
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Admiral_Chicagoso you'll have to be careful with it07:38
kuzmitchhi all! first time here so need your help and assistance07:39
Admiral_Chicagokuzmitch: ask07:39
wxrknythere is a deb for AIM07:39
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Skunkjust apt-get install pidgin07:39
kuzmitchnew to kubuntu. using 7.007:39
kuzmitch7.0407:39
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kuzmitcha have described my problem here , but no reply - too much conversations on this forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45898307:40
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kuzmitchany suggestions will be great07:42
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kuzmitchwhre shoud i dig?07:42
wxrknyhow do i prevent this error "corrupted by being downloaded in ASCII mode" when installing a deb07:42
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gianluca#ubuntu-it07:42
lorenzo__#ubuntu-it07:42
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heinerHas anybody experience with Tomcat5, Hibernate and spring ?07:43
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mintyhi07:44
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mintyim having trouble confiuring wine can n e 1 help???07:44
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ubuntu_Yo. Today my Feisty updated the kernel and then I, uh, pulled the power plug |-( . Next thing I know, GRUB says "Error 22: No such partition". Help really appreciated :)07:44
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mintythis is error message..... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables07:45
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mintyany ideas?07:46
logixoulminty: you have installed g++ from the official repos, right?07:46
mintyerrr i havent lol07:47
mintyshall i do so07:47
MaTiAzminty: sudo apt-get install build-essential07:47
MaTiAzThat's required for compiling :)07:47
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kuzmitchno ideas obout my problem?07:48
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suppamanMaTiAz: maybe it's the answer I was looking for07:48
logixoulMaTiAz: heh... wish I had known this earlier... I actually went through all packages looking for ones I'd be needing for building... :)07:48
logixoulback when I installed kubuntu07:48
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MaTiAzlogixoul: Heh, I had that same problem too, but I checked the wiki first ;)07:49
frojndhey guys.. This is wery weird. When I play avi file in VLC the sound gets out of the sync.. And that all the sudden and only in VLC player. I tryed to reboot the system, I remove and than install VLC and the sound is still out of the sync and again just in VLC player :S Any ideas how to get rid of that problem. Or is there any other way to unistall VLC and install it again??07:49
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logixoulMaTiAz: ;)07:49
Nukedwhats going on with kopete (12.5)... When I log into ICQ it states that my buddies are offline07:49
K1765Does anyone know why I get this: ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module. when i try to install nvidia driver07:49
Nukedeven though when I login with pidgin its another situation entirely07:49
logixoulfrojnd: I can't help much, other than suggest that you try another player such as Kaffeine (which uses xine)07:49
suppamanthanks bye07:50
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frojndlogixoul: this doesn't make any sence at all... VLC wont even play avis that it allready played correct :s07:51
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yeniklasorwhat is kubuntu's system monitor? Like gnome-system-monitor?07:52
logixoulksysguard07:52
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yeniklasorlogixoul : thanks07:52
logixoulnp07:53
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timmayanyone know how i can configure firefox to assciate a link to a specific program?07:53
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logixoultimmay: ask in #firefox please07:54
timmayty07:54
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logixoulGuys, today my Feisty updated the kernel but then I pulled the power plug. Now GRUB says "Error 22: No such partition" and doesn't boot Kubuntu. Would you please help?07:55
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denisbrHello!07:57
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Nukedman no one can help at all07:57
Nuked?07:57
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Sanneif nobody here knows an answer to a non-kubuntu specific problem (like logixoul's), try also to ask in #ubuntu, maybe somebody there knows more.07:59
Skunkand also #debian07:59
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kanehow do you add a directory to the path of a user?08:00
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SanneSkunk: be careful... their topic tells me they may not be so keen on help with *buntu problems.08:00
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kane#debian does not like ubuntu folks, last i checked.08:01
Skunktrue.08:01
JelleLittle question08:01
Jelledoes Apache works on Xubuntu?08:01
kaneyes.08:01
DyskolosJelle: why shouldnt it?08:01
kaneubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu are all the same thing.08:02
Skunkdebian users vs ubuntu users are like mac users vs pc users08:02
kaneits silly them name them different things.08:02
kaneer they name.08:02
c1|freakysorry i got disconnected. my question: with what exnesion does kontakt save its calendar files? (if someone answered please answer again my i had a 24h disconnect from my provider)08:02
Jelle(I'm a mac user :p)08:02
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Skunk(me too :P)08:02
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Jelledownloading xubuntu.. still08:02
Jelle:p08:02
kanei'm a linux user : )08:02
c1|freakyme too :D08:02
philippon /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <hbo84m>08:02
kaneheh...might wanna change your pass philippon08:03
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philipponhehe yep08:03
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neverblueis .nano_history suppose to be owned by root?08:03
Skunkheh. i actually have all 3. i have an L shaped desk. i have my linux box, my tv, my mac mini, and my gaming pc all lined up. 2 on each side, tv in the center of the L08:04
philippondon't now what went wrong though08:05
philippon...08:05
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Skunkbig desk >>08:05
philipponanyone now a good dvdplayer for kubuntu?08:06
Skunkxine or vlcplayer08:06
Skunkvlc is a lot easier to get set up08:06
kanekaffiene works well for me.08:06
kanehowever the heck you spell it.08:06
philipponvlc just reads the menues then quits...08:07
kanecourse it uses xine as teh backend.08:07
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philipponand kaffeine won't read it at all08:07
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logixoulSanne: right, thanks08:07
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philipponanyone plz!08:09
Skunkcodec issues?08:10
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philipponfor DVD?08:11
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kuzmitchdoes anyone has problems enabling postprocessing for divx files?08:13
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gianluca#ubuntu-it08:14
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PhinnFortkuzmitch: where?08:15
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phishinphreeAfter a reinstall and upgrade to 7.04, my system has network issues.  I mean it works fine when downloading things but stutters when connecting to it.  for example, when i ssh to the server, it takes 5-10 seconds for it to prompt for a username and about the same amount of time to ask for a password.  Same is true about accessing webpages on the server.  I have ruled out any hardware network issues and problems w/ apache.08:16
phishinphreeits not localized to any one service but effects all inbound services08:16
PhinnFortphishinphree: ipv6?08:16
PhinnFortis it enabled?08:16
PhinnFortyou usually don't need it08:17
PhinnFort!ipv608:17
phishinphreeit is probably08:17
ubotuTo disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv408:17
phishinphreei imagine its enabled by defauly08:17
PhinnFortit is08:17
PhinnFortafaik08:17
kuzmitchPhinnFort: in kaffeine, mplayer, etc08:17
PhinnFortsee if that help works for you08:17
jthomaskaffeine is my playa of choice08:17
phishinphreethankyou, thankyou, thankyou :-)08:17
PhinnFortCodeine pwns08:17
PhinnFortkaffeine08:17
PhinnFortphishinphree: don't thank me until you know if it works;)08:17
kuzmitchplayer doesn't matter08:18
phishinphreelol08:18
kuzmitchi have strange issues - an dark picturese too buch blocks and artesacts08:18
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PhinnFortkuzmitch: i'll try to enable it here08:19
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kuzmitchand pp numbers (0...6) doesnt sffect08:19
kuzmitchwhere?08:19
PhinnForton my player08:19
PhinnFortkuzmitch: where do you enable it?08:19
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PhinnFortunder video options in parameters for xine in kaffeine?08:19
kuzmitchfor which player?08:20
PhinnFortthe pp-number is only for mpeg4 playback08:20
PhinnFortkaffeine08:20
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kuzmitchsec please08:20
PhinnFort(codeine's config dialog is b0rked, but that's because it isn't used)08:20
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PhinnFort:P08:20
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kuzmitchsetting -> xine engipe paremeters -> video -> expert -> postprocessing quality08:21
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kuzmitchthe file is divx508:22
kuzmitchi guess08:22
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kuzmitchtrack info -> Video : ISO MPEG-4 (DivX5, ffmpeg)08:23
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PhinnForthttp://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/screenshots/skjermbilde4.png ?08:23
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kuzmitchsec08:24
PhinnFortI can't seem to find the option08:24
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BlueBird22is linux good for me if i  msn irc video . i punk my nose on many things.         like  web developement.  ms office. ms front page.   vidoe editing  ,   designing , graphics... many many more.............08:24
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jthomasBlueBird22: punk your nose?08:25
BlueBird22i mean i do those08:25
kuzmitchyes, this place08:26
titanix88hendaus_:08:26
kuzmitchi have number 6 here08:26
PhinnFortI do web development (check). I write all my school work in OOo (check). I don't use FrontPage, but I think there's alternatives. And we have kate, the best text editor in the universe. (check). I use inkscape, gimp, krita (check)08:26
PhinnFortworks very well08:26
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jthomasand KDEnlive for good video editing! (new release (0.5) in 2 weeks!)08:27
PhinnFort:D08:27
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PhinnFortand we have jashake (or something), and cinelerra08:27
PhinnFortand of course Kino08:27
jthomasJahshaka :)08:27
PhinnFortfor video editing08:28
jthomasbut its a pain, i don't get it!!08:28
PhinnFortJahShaka08:28
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PhinnFortis it stable?08:28
jthomasand Kino08:28
jthomasand PiTiVi08:28
PhinnFortand Blender08:28
Skunkanybody know of any good audio recording/editing while we're on that subject?08:28
Skunkapps*08:28
kuzmitchi'll show you the resulting picture08:28
PhinnFortSkunk: krec?08:28
Skunkthats not audacity =P08:28
PhinnFortaudacity?08:28
PhinnFort:D08:28
PhinnFortSkunk: look into what the ubuntustudio people included08:29
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SanneSkunk: take a look at ardour also, often mentioned by musicians.08:29
Skunkcool08:29
PhinnForthttp://www.jesusonic.com/soft.php08:29
PhinnFort:D08:29
titanix88Skunk: audacity for GNU/linux.08:29
arbuzzzHi all. Some body speak russian?08:30
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PhinnFort!ru | arbuzzz08:30
ubotuarbuzzz:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke08:30
arbuzzz08:30
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PhinnFortwelcome08:30
BlueBird22is linux good for me if i  msn irc video .        like  web developement.  ms office. ms front page.   vidoe editing  ,   designing , graphics... many many more.............08:30
Skunko.o08:30
Skunk*just checked out ardour*08:30
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PhinnFortBlueBird22: Yes.08:30
Skunkim installing that as soon as i get home08:30
SanneSkunk: :)08:31
PhinnFortdoes it use jack?08:31
BlueBird22PhinnFort is it better than windows even?08:31
titanix88!bn|08:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:31
PhinnFortBlueBird22: in my not so humble opinion, yes08:31
titanix88!bn | 08:31
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BlueBird22PhinnFort in my not so humble opinion ?08:31
PhinnFortBlueBird22: I'm not that humble08:32
PhinnFort(even a christian has his limits)08:32
BlueBird22PhinnFort what do you mean ? sory i didnt got ya08:32
jovansso i have burned the gutsy alternate image i am going now to test it08:32
jthomasWired for music also, very cool08:32
PhinnFortBlueBird22: Yes, I believe that Linux and KDE is better than proprietary counterparts, but that is my personal opinion08:32
BlueBird22ok08:33
kuzmitchhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/kuzmitch/screenshot.png08:33
PhinnFort:D08:33
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PhinnFortkuzmitch: is that your boyfriend, or something?08:33
kuzmitchPhinnFort: see all those blocks?08:33
jovansare there problems to install feisty packages on gutsy?08:33
kuzmitchno08:33
PhinnFortkuzmitch: sorry, it seems rather normal to me?08:33
kuzmitchthis it sthe screen from movie "the fountain"08:33
PhinnFortah, I knew I had seen that fella somewhere before08:34
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PhinnForthttp://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/snd.html08:35
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PhinnFort"modeled loosely after Emacs and an old, sorely-missed PDP-10 sound editor named Dpysnd"08:35
jthomaskuzmitch: i only see a black square on the photobucket site...08:35
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PhinnFortjthomas: adjust your monitor?08:36
PhinnFort:P08:36
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jthomashmmm... a nose?08:36
jthomasno better shots in that movie? :P08:37
Sannejovans: you are aware that gusty is by far not stable yet?08:37
jovansi am going to testing it only08:37
PhinnFortSanne: do you think people will wait for stuff to be stable?08:37
Sannejovans: ok, just checking ;)08:37
jovanswhere is the problem i do not use for daily work08:37
PhinnFortSanne: think about when kde 4.0 comes;)08:37
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SannePhinnFort: it was just a warning, in good intention08:37
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Sannejovans: no problem, no offense meant08:38
PhinnFortSanne: I was just making an observation on humans in general;)08:38
brandon_whats up everyone08:38
PhinnFort:P08:38
SannePhinnFort: with that, you're right, of course ;)08:38
brandon_first time ubuntu user.08:38
PhinnFortbrandon_: a tp-cable08:38
PhinnFortbrandon_: it's hanging just over my head08:38
brandon_PhinnFort - ?08:38
PhinnFortbrandon_: you asked what was up, and when I look up I see a grey TP-cable08:39
brandon_lol..08:39
PhinnFort:P08:39
brandon_how ya doing today?08:39
PhinnFortkinda fine, actually08:39
BluesKajI see rain clouds08:39
PhinnFortI'll soon have to go to work, though08:39
PhinnFortBluesKaj: you outside?08:39
brandon_me to PhinnFort. I worked from 8-2. Now I gotta work from 7 to 7. :(08:39
PhinnFort:(08:40
BluesKajnope, my setup by a window08:40
brandon_working 2 jobs majorly sucks when one is a 12 hr shift.08:40
PhinnFortwell, it's not paid work I'm going to, so it feels a tad bit better08:40
brandon_nah, I cant do any kind of labor for free08:40
brandon_money or drugs08:40
PhinnFortbrandon_: what kind of work?08:40
brandon_one of the two.08:40
PhinnFort;)08:40
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brandon_PhinnFort. Well I work at a cd manufactoring place (audio and DVD) for the 12 hr shifts 7 to 7. and my dad owns a small plumbing repair business I work with im a couple hours a day before I go to work and on my days off I work with him usually 8 hrs a day08:41
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PhinnFortbrandon_: sounds like fun...08:41
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Skunkwow08:42
brandon_Its alright man. The CD place is actually pretty cool. I work in the packaging department. All I do is read the work order and shrink or bubble wrap the order and put it on the right pallet, after the order is finished I move it no big deal.08:42
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BluesKajbrandon_, ya need a alife outside of work ...WTH are you doing chatting in here ? :)08:42
Skunkthats almost as bad as my schedule08:42
PhinnFortbrandon_: doesn't sound to bad, though08:42
PhinnFort:P08:42
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brandon_it can be a pain in the ass when alot of orders arent finished and you are running out of space to put stuff.08:42
fdoving!offtopic :)08:42
PhinnFortheh08:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about offtopic :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:42
brandon_Nah its alright, especally when I got help :)08:42
fdoving!offtopic08:42
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:42
PhinnFortrotfl08:42
fdoving:)08:42
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BluesKajfdoving, you need a life too :)08:43
brandon_BluesKaj: I got tired of using Microsoft products. So I decided to give linux a try. Just playing around and seeing whats up with it.08:43
brandon_cant get my sound to work yet though. :(08:43
PhinnFortBluesKaj: ubotu is who needs a life08:43
K-Ryanbrandon_ It's so much better08:43
BluesKajcool brandon_08:43
fdovingBluesKaj: no. i don't :)08:43
brandon_Yeah, it seems a hell of a lot better already. And I havent even been using it but maybe a week.08:43
K-Ryan!offtopic | fdoving08:43
ubotufdoving: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:43
brandon_I just wish I could get my sound to work.08:43
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K-RyanLaptop user?08:44
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brandon_nah, desktop pc.08:44
PhinnFortbrandon_: turned on the speakers?;)08:44
brandon_lol yeah08:44
brandon_and they are even plugged in to bro08:44
K-RyanAh, there are some issues flating around with sound, out of the box, not that they won't work at all.08:44
brandon_;)08:44
PhinnFort(that is the most common reason when sound doesn't work on linux here;))08:44
K-Ryan*floating08:44
PhinnFortbrandon_: :P08:44
jakub_hi all, how can i use TRACERT in lin08:44
PhinnFortjakub_: tried traceroute or tracepath?08:44
Skunkif youre using alsa for your sound system, in the command line try typing alsamixer08:45
PhinnFortjakub_: we don't have crippled, stupid names here, you see;)08:45
titanix88hendaus_:08:45
Skunks'what happened with my pc. turned it all the way up, never had to worry about it again and used kmix08:45
brandon_Skunk: I don't know what I am using for sound. This is like my second day using ubuntu.08:45
brandon_I have to keep checking to make sure I am even spelling it correctly.08:45
brandon_lol08:45
PhinnFortbrandon_: probably ALSA08:45
BluesKajbrandon_,make sure alsamixer inputs are unmuted08:45
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K-Ryanbrandon_: Try it in the terminal08:45
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brandon_well. how do I check?08:45
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K-RyanType in alsamixer in the termina08:46
K-Ryanl08:46
brandon_how do I get to the 'terminal'08:46
brandon_?08:46
jakub_i tried but i will do it once again just to be sure08:46
K-RyanTerminal is Konsole08:46
PhinnFortbrandon_: System menu -> Konsole08:46
Skunkbrandon: click on the k icon on the task bar, click on system settings, then sound system08:46
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K-RyanKDE Menu > System > Konsole08:46
jakub_tracepath is what i wonted THX a lot08:47
K-RyanReferred to usually as the terminal because afaik not everyone uses Konsole.08:47
gobanhi, whats a "display manager" and the difference between kdm and gdm08:47
brandon_i dont see a konsole08:47
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PhinnFortjakub_: uw;)08:47
K-Ryanbradon_: In the "start menu" then under System08:47
PhinnFortbrandon_: just hit ALT+F2, and type in konsole and hit enter08:47
Skunkyah there we go. do what phinn said08:47
brandon_i found sound perferences08:47
brandon_preferences*08:47
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PhinnFort(there's a million ways to do it)08:47
brandon_sound capture: is ALSA08:48
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Skunkyay08:48
K-RyanHey if you had a different terminal program, do you think you could open Konsole from it? =)08:48
PhinnFortbrandon_: now get yourself a konsole08:48
PhinnFortK-Ryan: yeah, why not?08:48
brandon_k08:48
PhinnFortK-Ryan: try opening xterm and run konsole from it08:48
K-RyanOpening a terminal program from a terminal program?08:49
K-RyanIt's funny =P08:49
brandon_it said could not open file://Konsole08:49
K-RyanStrange...08:49
K-RyanYou're on Kubuntu right?08:49
brandon_ubuntu08:49
brandon_7.0408:49
Skunkaah08:49
K-RyanWell there's your problem.08:49
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K-RyanYou have a different program for the terminal.08:50
brandon_!!! :(08:50
PhinnFortbrandon_: small first letter08:50
K-RyanAnd you're in the Kubuntu channel =P08:50
PhinnFort"konsole"08:50
brandon_but its still fixable though right.08:50
K-RyanYeah08:50
K-RyanTry #ubuntu08:50
PhinnFortah...08:50
K-RyanThey'll be able to help you better08:50
Skunkyah08:50
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Skunkubuntu = gnome and gnome apps kubuntu = kde and kde apps08:50
brandon_still doesnt work with konsole.08:50
PhinnFortKDDDDEEEEEE pwns08:50
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gobanwhats a display manager and the difference between kdm and gdm08:51
PhinnFortbrandon_: that's because it isn't konsole, when you're using plain ubuntu08:51
PhinnFortgoban: kdm is better08:51
gobanthansk08:51
K-Ryangoban: kdm is the K Desktop Environment, gdm Is the Gnome Desktop Environment08:51
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PhinnFortK-Ryan: I just didn't catch that he used ubuntu before it was too late08:51
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titanix88brandon_: appliction->accessories->terminal08:52
K-RyanIt's just the style of menus08:52
gobanahhh i thought that was windows manager08:52
PhinnFortah...;)08:52
PhinnFortgoban: it manages your log in08:52
brandon_I have the terminal open08:52
brandon_Its a command prompt08:52
PhinnFortgoban: it's the one that asks you for password and username08:52
K-RyanYes brandon_08:52
PhinnFortbrandon_: type alsamixer and hit enter08:52
K-RyanType alsamixer08:52
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brandon_alsamixer08:52
brandon_k08:52
brandon_brb08:52
PhinnForti bet you will;)08:53
brandon_WOW08:53
brandon_thats COOL08:53
brandon_;)08:53
PhinnFort:P08:53
brandon_but i dont understand what im looking at08:53
brandon_lol08:53
brandon_!08:53
K-RyanThe terminal is awesome08:53
brandon_it says Card: Riptide08:53
brandon_thats the kind of sound card I have.08:53
PhinnFortbrandon_: try manouvering with the arrows right/left and mute/unmute with "m"08:53
K-RyanShould be =P08:53
PhinnForti think08:53
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brandon_kbrb08:53
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PhinnFort!towel08:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about towel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:54
brandon_well in the taskbar08:54
brandon_it says PC Speaker: Muted08:54
brandon_i never noticed that before.08:55
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PhinnFort;)08:55
brandon_I cant get it to unmute though.08:55
PhinnForthum08:55
Skunkdriver issue.08:55
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PhinnFortbrandon_: well, you should try in #ubuntu08:55
Arwen#ubuntu reduces your intelligence...08:55
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titanix88brandon_: right click on the icon & select unmute.08:55
brandon_k08:55
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brandon_brb08:55
brandon_now it says PC Speaker: 100%08:56
brandon_where can I see if it works or not08:56
PhinnFortgnome is suffering from retardiation08:56
brandon_I have nothing on this harddrive08:56
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PhinnFortbrandon_: I think you should have a folder with demo files in your home folder08:56
brandon_what type of file should I be looking for. I know windows is .wav and .midi, .wma08:57
PhinnFortbrandon_: one with a soundish icon?08:57
brandon_I know nothing about linux PhinnFort. and I do appricate the help everyone!08:57
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titanix88brandon_: u will find some .ogg files in ur home->Examples08:57
brandon_k lemme see if I can navigate my way back to it.08:57
brandon_oh yeah I seen those last night (.ogg)08:57
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PhinnFortand speex and all goodness08:57
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=== PhinnFort has almost all his music in .ogg
ArwenSpeex rules :-P08:58
brandon_places -> computer08:58
PhinnFort:D08:58
ArwenPhinnFort, that doesn't say much... is it MP3 in an OGG container?08:58
PhinnFortArwen: ogg vorbis, mkay?08:58
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ArwenPhinnFort, better :-)08:58
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titanix88brandon_: places->Home folder08:59
hendaus_wb titanix88 :)08:59
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brandon_nah no sound. :(08:59
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huzhello. I've got no /dev/parport0 (kernel 2.6.20-15-generic). modules parport and parport_pc are loaded. any ideas?08:59
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PhinnForthuz: dmesg08:59
titanix88hendaus: 8)09:00
DraxNSahem... I need help with this tutorial09:00
DraxNShttp://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty09:00
Sannebrandon_: I have also muted pc speaker, but turned up master and pcm (at the beginning of alsamixer)09:00
DraxNSwhen I issue sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.35.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty09:00
K1765Why does it say this when i try to install a nvidia driver, ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module.09:00
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DraxNSI get MD5 error09:00
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BluesKajno mp3 for me...old school , nothing but lossless audio on my pc... compression makes percussion sound flangy and unreal  and includes keyboards like piano etc09:00
huzPhinnFort; parport: PnPBIOS parport detected (dmesg | grep parport)09:01
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brandon_PhinnFort. I appricate the help man Im gunna go burn a joint and see what I can come up with ;)09:01
Sannebrandon_: I have also muted pc speaker, but turned up master and pcm (at the beginning of alsamixer)09:01
DraxNSBluesKaj: was that you who recommended this tutorial? http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty09:01
ArwenBluesKaj, fortunately, I don't suffer from golden ears syndrome :-\09:01
BluesKajyes DraxNS09:01
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DraxNSwhen I issue sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.35.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty09:02
DraxNSI get MD5 error09:02
cj_hi guys, has anyone had a problem playing encrypted dvds after installing libdvdcss2? i get a stream of errors and can only terminate the process with a SIGKILL. just wondering if it's a known issue?09:02
ArwenDraxNS, that means your download is corrupt09:02
DraxNSI have downloaded newer ati driver09:02
DraxNS8.36.509:02
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DraxNSis that the reason?09:02
titanix88brandon_:right click the volume icon & select "open vol control"09:03
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BluesKajcould be DraxNS , but the tutorial should get rid of it, however to be safe, remove it if installed.09:03
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DraxNSI would hate to download another 50MB09:04
BluesKajthe new ati proprietary driver is broken on feisty if you want 3D09:04
DraxNSno... not installed.. and I have deinstalled fglrx driver from repo also09:04
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K-Ryanuninstalled =)09:04
ArwenBluesKaj, no it's not09:04
Arwenit works for me...09:04
DraxNSI know... that is why I have gone to that URL09:05
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Skunkquestion: anybody know if the radeon x1900 has problems in edgy like it does in fiesty? i wanna try installing xgl but i dont want to fubar my system like fiesty did09:05
BluesKajArwen, 3D , direct rendering , or is it beryl ?09:05
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ArwenBluesKaj, no, it all works here09:05
Arwena lot of people have issues trying to make the kernel module load, but that problem's been around since the beginning of time09:06
BluesKajATI x200 on board card , Arwen ?09:06
ArwenBluesKaj, oh... no, lol - those suck09:06
titanix88k-Ryan: what net connection? or just kidding?09:06
Arwennot that mine's any better, but..09:06
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BluesKajwell, that's what we're dealing with here , Arwen ...they may suck in your opinion but there is a work around patch for them09:07
K-Ryantitanix88: I'm serious, single downloads of up to about 1500Kb/s and multiple downloads of lower speeds adding up to near 2Mb/s09:07
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ArwenBluesKaj, ok, I'll leave myself out... just that when you say "the latest driver is completely broken", that's a little misleading09:07
BluesKajidin't say "completely"09:07
titanix88K-Ryan: OMG!!!i got 4.1kbps.09:08
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DraxNSmuch things are broken on Feisty.... shame09:08
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BluesKajbroken for 3D in feisty09:08
K-RyanI haven't had a problem yet09:08
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ArwenBluesKaj, uh... maybe on your system..09:08
PhinnForthickupless09:08
Arwenwe'll be happy to help you if you want, lol09:08
K-RyanAye09:08
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BluesKajDraxNS, you didn't copy the tutor's xorg file did you ?09:09
DraxNSno...09:09
BluesKajgood !09:09
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DraxNSdid not get to that...09:09
BluesKaj:)09:09
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DraxNSI am at package build09:09
DraxNSand .. as I said... MD5 is bugging me09:09
PhinnFortmd5 is broken09:10
ArwenDraxNS, MD5 is an integrity check.09:10
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Arwenif it doesn't work, it means your download is broken09:10
DraxNSdamn09:10
DraxNS50mb... again...09:10
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PhinnFortDraxNS: curse your ISP?09:10
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draganYES09:10
ArwenPhinnFort, that doesn't disprove my statement09:10
Arwenthe only way to get a bad sum is to have bad data09:10
dragannow I am at another one09:10
Arwenthat doesn't imply that having a good sum means good data09:11
PhinnFortArwen: no, it was just an interesting fact09:11
DraxNSbye from this one ;-)09:11
BluesKajthe way i got it to work , i just used the fglrx driver provided by feisty in system settings , then i ran thru the tutorial and rebooted and it works for me now .09:11
killermachI have fiesty and when I ssh into my box I sshd doesn't seem to forward ports, anyone had this issue yet? I'm using putty from a winbox and it works to my other linux box09:11
ArwenPhinnFort, hehe, well, to be fair, you can't ever have unique sums for every multi-megabyte file unless they're equal or larger than the file you're summing09:11
Arwensimple logic09:11
BluesKajthe fesity driver is replaced by a patched older driver, DraxNS09:11
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PhinnFortArwen: I know, but it's even worse that what they thought when they designed MD509:12
PhinnFort;)09:12
ArwenDraxNS, yes, the safe and easy way is to use the repository driver09:12
killermachAllowTCPForwarding is supposed to be yes by default in man sshd_config, but I explicitly added it to try to fix09:12
ArwenPhinnFort, that's why we have SHA1 these days09:12
MrPanhow to install truetype fonts in Kubuntu 7.04 ?09:12
DraxNSyes but it does not work well Arwen09:12
PhinnFortArwen: well, people need to start using it too09:12
ArwenMrPan, copy them to the font folder...09:12
PhinnFort:P09:12
jthomasMrPan: in the KDE Control Center, Fonts09:12
ArwenPhinnFort, bittorrent does :-P09:12
PhinnFortMrPan: "fonts:/" in Konqueror09:13
jthomasMrPan: rather, System Settings09:13
PhinnFortArwen: well, I meant for packaging09:13
Arwenmeh :-\09:13
jthomasMrPan: rather, System Settings > Appearance > Font Installer09:13
Arwenthe real point of it isn't security, it's preventing the installation of corrupt packages09:13
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PhinnFortArwen: well, I thought the security was handled by gpg signatures?09:14
ArwenPhinnFort, yes.09:14
Arwenthe md5sum just verifies that nothing's blatantly broken09:14
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DraxNSwell numbers are way off09:14
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PhinnFortseems like unnecessary work to me09:15
MrPanjthomas, PhinnFort thanks09:15
GenecksI need help.09:15
ArwenPhinnFort, meh :-\09:15
Arwenanyway, we're digressing09:15
PhinnFortMrPan: yw;)09:15
Arwen!ask | Genecks09:15
ubotuGenecks: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:15
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Genecks!ask | Genecks09:15
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dragan_sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.36.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty09:16
dragan_Created directory fglrx-install.gB693309:16
dragan_Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: 40465b4eb43189cd810e22c9e14741de is different from 3cf190dca35be845dccacf6ab5c7ff1f09:16
hendaustitanix88:  brb..09:16
K-RyanHey where does "sudo" and "kdesu" come from?09:16
GenecksI have this Konqueror program.09:16
GenecksIt loads up with locate:vlc each time I login09:16
Arwendragan_, again.... YOUR FILE IS BROKEN, STOP ASKING.09:16
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: kdesu gives another user x priveliges09:16
GenecksThe last time I looked for vlc was when I was trying to find the program itself to make firefox use it for playing files09:16
titanix88hendaus: gnokii working?09:17
ArwenK-Ryan, what do you mean?09:17
GenecksI never did accomplish that task09:17
K-RyanLike...09:17
Arwen!su | K-Ryan09:17
ubotuK-Ryan: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.09:17
K-RyanI know what the commands do09:17
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dragan_ok.. just pasting info... dont kil me ;-)09:17
GenecksHowever, Konqueror keeps loading up that locate thing each time I login09:17
K-RyanBut why are they called what they are called09:17
GenecksHow do I stop it from loading on login?09:17
titanix88Genecks: vlc is great!09:17
ArwenK-Ryan, sudo = "superuser do"09:17
Arwenkdesu = "kde su"09:17
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K-RyanAh09:17
Arwensu = "switch user/superuser"09:17
ubuntu_hello people09:18
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K-RyanThanks, I was just wondering about that...09:18
Arwenubuntu_, bye :-)09:18
K-RyanHi there ubuntu_09:18
ubuntu_i am installing kubuntu and changing the settings on-the-fly. will these changes be active after the installation on the hardisk as well?09:18
GenecksHow do I stop it from loading on login?09:18
crdlbubuntu_, no09:18
K-RyanSettings of programs?09:18
K-RyanNo ubuntu_, you'll have to do them again.09:18
ArwenGenecks, have you checked in ~/.kde/Autostart?09:18
ubuntu_K-Ryan: of anything09:18
nosrednaekimubuntu_: no09:18
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K-RyanThe only thing that will affect the installation, is the installer, so everything else you do won't be there.09:18
GenecksWhere is that folder?09:18
ArwenGenecks, ~ means your home folder09:19
Arwenso it's ".kde/autostart" in your home09:19
Genecksi have no such folder09:19
Arwenyou might have to turn on showing hidden folders/files09:19
Genecksin my home09:19
ArwenGenecks, it's hidden by default09:19
K-RyanYou do Genecks, see Arwen's message =)09:19
titanix88Genecks: try "show hidden files"09:19
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ubuntu_ok. another question is: what's the default runlevel after the installation? i installed kubuntu, ran the system management tool, changed the services, but the changes didn't have any effect. i thought the runlevel was 5, but i could confirm this, since there's no /etc/iniitab <-- where is it?09:19
K-Ryanyou can type this in your konsole09:20
ubuntu__hello09:20
K-Ryan"kdesu konqueror .kde/autostart09:20
K-RyanHi ubuntu__09:20
DraxNSok.... new download started :-)09:20
ArwenK-Ryan, err, you don't need kdesu to edit your own files09:20
GenecksAlright, I see the folder09:20
ubuntu_*could not confirm..09:20
nosrednaekimubuntu_: I believe it is 509:20
titanix88ubuntu_:209:20
GenecksI see a file called .directory09:20
K-RyanArwen don't you need kdesu to open graphical apps?09:20
ubuntu_hmm 2 or 5?09:20
ArwenK-Ryan, no, you need it to open them as *root*09:20
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ubuntu_however there must be a bug after the installation09:20
K-RyanYou can just type konqueror .kde/autostart ?09:21
Arwenya09:21
GenecksOr I could do whatever works, which did work; and I am there.09:21
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DraxNSfound correct one... 8.35.5 ;-)09:21
titanix88ubuntu_:check kcontrol->services09:21
DraxNSeven bigger... 54.7 mb09:21
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: yep!09:21
ubuntu_i checked both /etc/rc2 , 3, 4, 5... the scripts were not in these dirs, however at start up, the system still started some scripts which I disabled at all.09:21
ubuntu__now i'm installing kubuntu09:21
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ubuntu_titanix88: that is what i did09:21
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GenecksI don't know what to do.09:22
ubuntu_have you ever noticed my problem?09:22
GenecksNO.09:22
mcgregorcheers to all!!me again!!could someone help me ?i have some problems with my dvd drive.i just bought it and i don't know how to mount it09:22
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ubuntu_weird09:22
ubuntu_i am going to do another installation09:22
DraxNSmcgregor: put something in drive :-)09:22
ubuntu_of the system09:22
GenecksOk, that should work.09:22
GenecksI should do that, too.09:22
GenecksI was just thinking about doing that to fix my problem.09:23
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mcgregori've done that thing many times09:23
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titanix88ubuntu_:it's 2 i'm sure.09:23
ubuntu_hmm09:23
GenecksI have a different problem.09:23
ubuntu_isn't 2 for safe modes?09:23
nosrednaekimmcgregor: did you put a dvd in it?09:23
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mcgregoryes09:23
BluesKajDraxNS, the driver that tutorial provides is a patched modded version especially for the xpress200 card , installing the unpatched version may not work the way you want.09:24
GenecksI can't upload images to websites; my browser and internet connectio crashes. Why does it crash?09:24
ubuntu_titanix88: do you also know how can we confirm this? there's not the usual /etc/inittab, where is it ??09:24
mcgregorand a  cd and it doesn't work09:24
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titanix88ubuntu_:not in k/ubuntu09:24
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: is there a problem with the normal ATI drivers and Xpress200's?09:24
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BluesKajyes09:24
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BluesKajnosrednaekim, for 3D on feisty , yes09:25
ubuntu_titanix88: there's no inittab?09:25
nosrednaekimI have a Xpress1100, which has the Xpress200's graphics core, and no problems whatsoever.09:25
ubuntu_titanix88: how can i know what init launches?09:25
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mcgregorcan you guide trough the mounting process?09:25
BluesKajare you running 3D stuff like google earth09:25
mcgregorbe right back09:26
sercikhi ubuntu_! old redhat user?09:26
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mitch_a question on reinstalling...with a /home partition, is the install procedure just a matter of reformatting the root partition and continuing with install, or does something else have to be done with respect to the /home partition?09:26
BluesKajI repeat ,are you running 3D stuff like google earth , nosrednaekim09:26
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: flightgear, bzflag.09:26
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serciki'm also old gedora user! and to the beginning i have had problems to understand debian init mechanism09:26
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sercikkubuntu start on init2 and there aren't differences like in fedora!09:27
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: and gl-117 as well.09:27
ubuntu_sercik: yes09:27
sercikthere aren't inittab in debian09:27
BluesKajwhich driver nosrednaekim, the new proprietary ATI ?09:27
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titanix88ubuntu_:just kctrl->services :u will see by default run level 209:28
mintyhey im trying to compile wine can anyone tell me what i can do bout the following messages :09:28
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mintyonfigure: WARNING: X development files not found. Wine will be built without09:28
mintyconfigure: WARNING: X support, which currently does not work, and probably09:28
mintyconfigure: WARNING: isn't what you want anyway. You will need to install devel09:28
mintyconfigure: WARNING:  packages of Xlib/Xfree86 at the very least.09:28
BluesKaj!pastebin09:28
sercikto the beginning i have tried to do init:3:initdefault in inittab to start without X but X starts the same in ubuntu09:28
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:28
Arwen!pastebin | minty09:28
ubotuminty: please see above09:28
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: yes, the default provided by fiesty09:28
sercikfor me the fedora mechanis was better! but now i love ubuntu and i will not use fedora anymore09:29
Arwennosrednaekim, you mean you haven't installed any new drivers? so you're using the stock *2d* drivers?09:29
titanix88minty: sudo pat-get build-dep wine09:29
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ubuntu_titanix88: i know, but i am not sure it's 2..... sorry if i doubt, but in some other kubuntu confs i did, it seems to me that it was 5, however i need to know what init searches for at boot09:29
titanix88minty: sudo apt-get build-dep wine09:29
nosrednaekimArwen: no. I mean that I installed the standard fglrx drivers that are in the repositories09:30
BluesKajwell nosrednaekim, then your driver is modded to work with direct rendering in feisty whereas with x200 , it doesn't ...beleive me09:30
Arwennosrednaekim, ah09:30
BluesKajyour ati card rather09:30
ArwenBluesKaj, um, the only patches in it that the debian changelog announces are a patch to make it kernel 2.6.20 compatible09:30
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: ok. cool!09:30
mintyhey can some1 have a look please : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23312/09:30
ubuntu_i am going to reboot09:30
sercikubuntu_ why don't you choose a better nick?09:30
titanix88ubuntu_:try to toggle some non critical service startup mode both in 2 & 509:31
Dekkardomg09:31
BluesKajArwen, http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty09:31
serciki want to eliminate disk check at startup someone know how it is possible?09:31
Dekkardhi.. im dek.. and.. I used to be a gnome user...09:31
sercikit loose time to check myfat32 hard disk!!09:31
Arwensercik, err, you don't want to do that09:31
titanix88srcik:like "kubuntu"??09:31
Geneckshmm09:31
nosrednaekimsercik: would like to know that myself09:32
Arwenbut you can edit /etc/fstab and set the second-to-last parameter in each line to "0"09:32
ubuntu_titanix88: i did, but some services, as i said, started again despite my changes. looking in /etc/rc2 and /etc/rc5 seemed okay, but some services like hplip (for hp printers) started again09:32
sercikArwen: this reply ois not new to me!09:32
Genecks??09:32
nosrednaekimArwen: thanks!09:32
Arwensercik, read my second response09:32
sercikbut startup is very slow because that check09:32
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nosrednaekimDekkard: welcome to KDE09:32
Dekkardhehe09:32
Arwensercik, nosrednaekim, oh wait, it's the last parameter, not the second-to-last09:33
sercikArwen thiw eliminate check at every boot?09:33
Arwensercik, yeah, for each line in fstab, change the last number to "0"09:33
Dekkardi didn't mean for it... I mean.. it just happened...09:33
Arwenbut... that's not safe at all09:33
mintyhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23312/09:33
nosrednaekimminty: why are you compiling wine?09:33
sercikbut Why linux should check my windows hard disk at every startup?09:33
GenecksHow do I install wine?09:33
nosrednaekim!wine09:33
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:33
serciksudo apt-get install wine09:33
sercikand then do winecfg09:33
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ma3xWhat is the stable repository name for ubuntu?09:34
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mintyexactly what ubotu said09:34
ma3xWhat is the stable repository name for ubuntu?09:34
Geneckssudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 30 15:19:38 200709:34
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sercikthis i s a tipical entry in my fstab: UUID=572F9C5F5D5DAC18 /media/F ntfs-3g users,defaults,locale=it_IT.UTF-8 0 109:34
sercikwhat can i change?09:34
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titanix88minty: sudo apt-get build-dep wine09:35
GenecksI can't install WINE.09:35
nosrednaekimminty: why are you compiling wine?09:35
Arwensercik, change to "1" to "0"09:35
GenecksWhy can't I install wine?09:35
sercikGenecks you need to add some repositories to your sources.list!09:35
GenecksHow?09:35
ArwenGenecks, give us more information!09:35
Arwendon't be a troll09:35
titanix88minty: try #winehq09:35
Dekkardwait.. he needs to edit his repos09:35
Geneckssudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 30 15:19:38 200709:35
brandon_still no sound. :(09:36
sercikGenecks have you added some repos to sources.list?09:36
Dekkardcan he do that from adept?09:36
ma3xWhat is the stable repository name for ubuntu?09:36
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GenecksTHis is why I can't install WINE: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 30 15:19:38 200709:36
serciki can tell you about a very good lists of repository: search for (3vino blog)09:36
ArwenGenecks, the package is broken.09:36
Arwenyou could use a --force-yes switch, but..09:36
KomsipGenecks: that happens if your computer clock isn't set to correct date09:36
nosrednaekimGenecks: are you sure your clock is alright?09:37
Komsipand time09:37
ArwenGenecks, oh yeah, fix your clock09:37
GenecksI recently changed my clock from 24-hour to 12-hour09:37
Komsipsync it with a ntp server09:37
Arwenjust relealized that's today09:37
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GenecksBut that is the right time.09:37
GenecksNO wait..09:37
GenecksIt is now 2:37 p.m.09:37
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Arwenerr, 3:38 here09:38
GenecksThe wine has a timestamp too far in the future09:38
mintyconfused as fuck09:38
Arwenbut I'm on eastern time09:38
mintylol09:38
Dekkardhe must be in nebraska09:38
Arwenminty, ask from the start, I wasn't paying attention09:38
nosrednaekimminty: why are you compiling wine?09:38
mintybecoz i have certain windows programs i wnt to run09:38
mintyis that ok??09:38
Dekkardwow you can run murk under wine!!09:38
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sercikArwen: i have another problem at boot during check i receive boot sector is not the same as backup, not automatically fixing this!09:39
Dekkardthats usless...09:39
Arwenminty, uh.... and that relates to running wine... how?09:39
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GenecksHelp!!09:39
Genecksplz?!09:39
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GenecksI don't no what 2 do.09:39
Arwensercik, uh, that means exactly what it says09:39
mintyminty joins brandon09:39
sercikbut is dangerous?09:39
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minty:D09:39
Arwensercik, potentially09:40
sercikwhy my boot sector changes?09:40
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nosrednaekimminty: you don't need to compile it...09:40
Arwensercik, you broke it? lol09:40
mintyok arwen im like noobie to linux ok09:40
serciki see this message also at first startup of linux09:40
GenecksWhy my timestamp wrong?09:40
mintyhelp me then09:40
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minty:'(09:40
Arwenminty, 'apt-get install wine'09:40
Arwensimple09:40
mintydone it already09:40
Arwenminty, then you have wine...09:40
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brandon_But seriously - today, well last night for a couple of hours is the first time I have used linux whats so ever. All these questions I am reading I am like wow you can do this?09:40
Arwenwhat's the problem?09:40
nosrednaekimminty: then you have it.09:40
sercikminty: if you are new don't think to solve your problem with wine...09:41
brandon_damn we in the same boat lol09:41
Dekkardbrandon_:  welcome top GNU/Linux09:41
sercikis not simple to run windows program with it!09:41
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Skunkheh. at least you didnt try slackware for your first distro like i did09:41
brandon_Dekkard: Thanks man.09:41
aztunhi09:41
Skunknightmare09:41
aztunhi all09:41
MrC_hi there fellows does anyone knows how to format an USB stick/pen on linux?And does anyone knows if Ubuntu's firewall is already set ty itself and if it safe enough?09:41
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GenecksNecesito una persona que habla espanol.09:41
sercikif you think to run mirc Ok, but if you want to run microsoft office no!09:41
Dekkardslack rocks09:41
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Dekkard!es09:41
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:41
Arwenminty, 'wine <path to .exe file>' - that's how you use wine... or, how you should be able to but probably won't09:41
aztunanyone had problems connecting to msn with kopete after upgrading to last kde?09:41
sercikio ablo italiano :)09:41
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mintynope my msn is fine09:42
aztunI cant connect with kopete anymoer09:42
aztunanymore09:42
GenecksNihongo wa hanashimasu.09:42
brandon_minty, you can use gaim to use AIM and MSN09:42
brandon_and icq and some shit too i believe09:42
sercikaztun you want to connect to msn?09:42
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mintyi know09:42
aztunyes sercik09:42
mintyim connected to msn now09:42
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dogatemycomputerminty: what Windows app did you want to run?09:42
mintythis second n its finwe09:42
serciktry amsn09:42
brandon_i didnt know09:42
aztunI dont like amsn09:42
MrC_yo parlo italiano would be more correct09:42
aztunI like kopete09:42
sercikis the best msn clone!09:42
mintyutorrent09:42
mintyits easy 4 me09:42
Arwenminty, ah, good choice09:42
mintylol09:42
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K-RyanKopete does AIM, ICQ, IRC, MSN, Yahoo09:42
Arwenutorrent works perfectly in wine :-P09:43
mintyit rules dont it09:43
K-RyanPlus more09:43
mintybrill09:43
aztuni have jabber accounts and gtalk09:43
aztunso I like kopete09:43
nosrednaekimMrC_: yeah, go get qtparted09:43
brandon_The only reason I switched to linux is because im not paying microsoft one more dime for doing nothing but crashing my system simutaniously.09:43
MrC_me too I like Kopete but today i was having problems with all day long09:43
brandon_bunch of cock suckers.09:43
aztunbut know can only connect to jabber09:43
dogatemycomputer!language09:43
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:43
sercikutorrent is the best torrent client i know!09:43
Arwenminty, you could try using ktorrent (not as many features, but native and light) or azureus (java, bloaty, but generally better than utorrent).09:43
brandon_I figured hell I can get this for free, why not give it a shot.09:43
mintyive also goty the fun attept to install beryl in a min :p09:43
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brandon_oops. my bad.09:43
Dekkardlanguage..please09:43
brandon_oops. my bad.09:43
Dekkardnp09:43
brandon_Im going to mess around with this sound issue I got again.09:43
Dekkardktorrent is nice09:43
brandon_sucks not having no sound.09:44
mintyarwen what do u use09:44
Arwenminty, azureus, I have enough RAM to handle the overhead :-\09:44
sercikif you want you can try mldonkey with sancho gui!09:44
bchi need some help replacing an open source satasil3124 driver with one from the hardware manufacturer09:44
dogatemycomputerminty: well.. it specifically says Utorrent works with Wine so why not try?  did you need help getting it running with wine?09:44
aztunwhat a shit, kopete always worked great for me09:44
aztunI tried deleting all config on ~/.kde09:44
bchi have the tar ball and can compile the module, but then how do i get it to load?09:44
aztunand still fails09:45
mintyilkl see in a second whats wine classed under ..   multimedia ? .. etc09:45
jthomaskopete stinks with this release09:45
GenecksNecesito una persona que habla espanol.09:45
K-RyanI think Kopete is fine09:45
aztunq te pasa Genecks?09:45
nosrednaekim!es | Genecks09:45
ubotuGenecks: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:45
bchinsmod says it can find the module. not sure what to do with the .ko file that gets out09:45
jthomas!es |Genecks09:45
aztunpq no vas a #kubuntu-es??09:45
brandon_Genecks: I don't think anyone speaks spanish bro09:45
K-RyanBeat me to it nosrednaekim09:45
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mintyhe said whats up09:45
bchany suggestions?09:45
jthomasGenecks: yo hablo pero estamos aqui en el forum ingles09:45
K-Ryanahah, i get it09:46
K-Ryan"mike anderson"09:46
sercikse vua iu puozzo parlali sicialianu! mi capisci?09:46
mintyshit not that good09:46
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PriceChild!ohmy09:46
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:46
jthomas!language09:46
mintyim sorry09:46
brandon_ka passa amigo09:46
mintymy bad09:46
brandon_minty09:46
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K-RyanHabla ingles por favor...09:46
brandon_did you have any sound issues when you installed ubuntu?09:46
jthomasGenecks: que tal?09:46
mintyme?09:46
brandon_yeah09:47
mintyno not that ive experienced so far09:47
Genecksjthomas, stuf09:47
jthomaslol09:47
Genecks^_~09:47
brandon_word. i cant get my sound to work. Its dectecting the sound card. but its not using it.09:47
brandon_lol09:47
minty../ noticed yet09:47
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K-Ryanhabla ingles en #kubuntu, habla espanol en #kubuntu-es09:47
serciksomeone knows how to add entry to kde menu? for that applications that install menu inder /usr/share/menu ??09:47
mintyerm wot wine app do i wana use09:47
K-Ryan /rant09:47
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: sshhh!n don09:47
nosrednaekim't tell anyone09:47
jthomasanyone read the article about how westerners generally do these emoticons  :)  and easterners generally do ^_^    crazy huh?09:48
K-Ryan=)09:48
mintyhaha09:48
mintylol09:48
K-RyanI go crazy and use =)09:48
jthomassercik: right-click on the menu and edit it09:48
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sercikjthomas i know that09:48
nosrednaekim^_^   how true09:48
bchthis lady i work with does (-:09:48
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bchwhich drives me nuts09:48
jthomasshe's nuts!09:49
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mintydogate : do i wana use wine file to open it09:49
K-RyanAlthough I do use -.- or o.O every once in a while.09:49
serciki'm searching for an applications that create shortcut for me! for that programs (there are many) that don't create a entry in kde menu09:49
sercikplease noone have this problem?09:49
K-RyanYou can make entries in the kde menu09:49
nosrednaekimsercik: kmenueditor09:49
GenecksSOmetimes I talk spanish to anger people09:49
bchyou can add items to the menu09:49
K-RyanOr make shortcuts on your own09:49
jthomasgo to a command line and tpye: locate _name_09:49
GenecksSOmetimes I'll rudely talk SPanish to spanish people.09:49
nosrednaekimGenecks: clase su boca09:49
serciknosrednaekim: the problem is not to edit menu!09:49
GenecksLife is fun that way when you know multiple foreign languages.09:49
K-RyanExcept this channel is for English...09:50
brandon_NO COMPRENDA!!!09:50
GenecksI need help.09:50
Skunkhow to wow any spanish speaking person: spell out the word SOCKS09:50
brandon_i think thats how its spelled.09:50
brandon_:-x09:50
nosrednaekimK-Ryan: thats basically what I just said09:50
sercikif i launch a fluxbox session i see much entry but in kde there are fex entry09:50
K-RyanAnd another language being used purposely could be considered offtopic09:50
Skunktranslates into eso si que es (spelling?) meaning it is what it is x309:50
sercikbecause of that applications that don't create a .desktop dile09:50
GenecksHow do I create a macro with the Konsole?09:50
K-RyanOn a side note, know how to say diary in spanish? =D09:50
brandon_whats a macro?09:51
Genecks-_-09:51
K-RyanSomething that does a bunch of things for you without you having to do them all09:51
GenecksA macro records keyboard typing and mouse clicks.09:51
sercikif i launch a fluxbox session i see many entry in menu but in kde menu there are fex entry because of that applications that don't create a .desktop file but create a file in /usr/share/menu09:51
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GenecksIt relays these recorded strokes and key pushes within an environment.09:51
K-RyanA macro does not relay them09:52
GenecksI read that I could create a shell script for such things, but I don't know how.09:52
GenecksYes, it does.09:52
K-RyanA macro repeats them upon execution.09:52
GenecksIt replays them.09:52
K-RyanReplay maybe, not relay09:52
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nosrednaekimGenecks: its easy to make a shell script just put all the commands in a file09:52
Dekkardwow kopete is quick09:52
GenecksWhat commands?09:52
nosrednaekimand command you want to run09:52
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GenecksI don't know what commands to use for keyboard and mouse strokes.09:52
nosrednaekim*any09:52
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Dekkardwell.. now that ya mention it.. it seems kde is just quicker than gnome...09:52
nosrednaekimGenecks: oh.. that09:53
K-RyanThat's not a shellscript Genecks09:53
sercik if i launch a fluxbox session i see many entry in menu but in kde menu there are fex entry because of that applications that don't create a .desktop file but create a file in /usr/share/menu09:53
sercik[21:51]  <Genecks> A macro records keyboard typing and mouse clicks.09:53
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nosrednaekimDekkard: really? cool.. I always noticed the opposite09:53
DraxNSBluesKaj: it is ok.. I have x200 integrated... just what it should work for :-)09:53
GenecksI need to make a script that plays out keyboard typing and mouse clicks.09:53
K-RyanAnd a macro doesn't record them either...09:53
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K-RyanGenecks: Just out of curiousity, what are you using it for?09:53
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Dekkardnosrednaekim:  well.. im running an athlon 900 with 512 meg of ram..09:53
GenecksDestroying the world.09:53
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GenecksIt's a long-term goal.09:53
Dekkardand believe me..  i notice speed09:54
Jacko2007Hello09:54
nosrednaekimDekkard: about 1.4ghz? and KDE is faster? thats interesting09:54
K-RyanHi Jacko200709:54
a9913what was the name of the meta package which installed the compiler collection and stuff?09:54
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Dekkardum.. no.. athlon 900 mghz09:54
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nosrednaekima9913: build-essential09:54
sercikbuils-essential09:54
nosrednaekimDekkard: oh wow.09:54
Dekkardthis is an old t-bird09:54
a9913nosrednaekim, sercik, thanks!09:54
GenecksI need to make a script that plays out keyboard typing and mouse clicks. How do I do this with the shell?09:54
K-RyanShell scripts don't do that09:54
sercikyou are welcome!09:54
nosrednaekima9913: NP09:55
sercikplease someone reply:  if i launch a fluxbox session i see many entry in menu but in kde menu there are fex entry because of that applications that don't create a .desktop file but create a file in /usr/share/09:55
KartibokHi all, any suggestions for applications that would help me write javascript?09:55
Jacko2007I set up LAMP a while ago and I have forgot my MySQL details how do I get / reset the information09:55
K-RyanSee #bash for shell scripting however...09:55
nosrednaekimbye all! back to real life (tm)09:55
nosrednaekim;)09:55
Jacko2007cya nosrednaekim09:55
sercikhi nosrednaekim! goodbye09:55
Jacko2007any ideas?09:56
mintycan some 1 help me run wine 4 a minute please09:58
Jacko2007minty, go ahead09:58
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Arwenminty, time is money, but I'll help ya09:58
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mintythnks arwen09:59
mintyok09:59
mintyhow do i set up utorr 4 wine etc09:59
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Arwenminty, err, download utorrent, open a konsole, run "wine utorrent.exe"09:59
Arwenor, actually, I think you can just double click on the app in Ubuntu10:00
mintyis that it?10:00
mintylol10:00
Arwenyea10:00
Arwensome apps are trickier :-P10:00
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gianlucaubuntu-it10:00
gianluca#ubuntu-it10:00
GenecksI need to make a script that plays out keyboard typing and mouse clicks. How do I do this with the shell?10:01
Dekkardgianluca:  /join #ubuntu-it10:01
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sercikCiao gianluca10:01
mintyany way of gettin summin bak once u shift-deleted something>?#10:02
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Dekkard:O10:02
mintyutha thn dwnldin iit again10:02
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Zaviewoah.10:03
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GenecksI need to make a script that plays out keyboard typing and mouse clicks.10:04
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DekkardGenecks:  a keylogger?10:06
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GenecksNo.10:06
GenecksI need something similar to a macro in LInux.10:06
GenecksI need to find a way to conduct a series of keyboard commands on GIMP.10:06
Dekkardfor image manipulation?10:07
GenecksYes.10:07
Dekkardphot images..RAW?10:07
Dekkardphoto10:07
Genecks.jpg10:07
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Dekkardno svensk10:08
GenecksIs that a word?10:08
Dekkardhehe10:08
Dekkardyes10:08
Dekkardum..10:08
Dekkard i was wondering if there was another proggie to use10:08
Dekkardlike picassa10:08
Dekkard or kphoto10:08
GenecksNo, what I'm doing requires knowledge of physics: light attributes.10:08
GenecksInterestingly, GIMP has a preprogrammed light attribute, which I cannot understand or comprehend.10:09
Dekkard or do you know the gimp commands?10:09
GenecksHowever, I need to apply it.10:09
GenecksThere is no GIMP command for it.10:09
GenecksGIMP'10:09
Genecks**10:09
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GenecksGimp's scheme programming for batch processing does not have this preset light attribute10:09
GenecksI would have to figure out what it is, which would take too long.10:10
GenecksNow, I could just give up right here and now; I already have this installed for WIndows XP10:10
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Jacko2007I set up LAMP a while ago and I have forgot my MySQL details how do I get / reset the information10:10
Dekkardhave you investigated any pre existing filters.. or effects plugins?10:10
GenecksChange the bulb10:10
GenecksI've investigated, but none will work.10:10
Jacko2007Genecks lol10:10
GenecksI'll give up after today.10:11
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Dekkardmaybe a channel on gimp.net?10:11
GenecksNah, they'd tell me to use scheme10:11
GenecksIt wouldn't work, because I've have to actually learn a few programming languages and tear apart GIMP to get at what I want10:12
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GenecksScheme only works if the person knows the attributes.10:12
Firetechhmm, when playing a stream in Amarok, the sound sometimes decides to drop. Amarok continues to download the stream, but no sound comes out (not with any player) until I restart ALSA using the init.d script. What can be wrong?10:12
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GenecksAnd the attributes are coded into GIMP10:12
GenecksSo, I have to tear apart GIMP to create the attribute, thus allowing SCHEME to batch-process some images.10:13
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GenecksIt just isn't the same.10:13
DekkardGenecks:  you  are  boned10:13
rkroetchGenecks, then talk to the gimp channel and request a feature or code it yourself10:13
GenecksI thought about that.10:13
GenecksHowever, I already have the problem solved.10:13
GenecksOf course, it's solved on Windows XP.10:13
rkroetchGenecks, the features you see have to come from somewhere, if it doesn't exist, then (preferably write it yourself) or tell someone what you want10:13
GenecksThat takes too long.10:14
Dekkardgood software takes time10:14
GenecksI only wanted it because someone told me I could run the script in the background on Kubuntu in background desktops.10:14
rkroetchYou are looking on howto setup keyboard shortcuts for GIMP is the basic gist?10:14
Dekkardi mean.. vista wasnt written in tow years ya know!!10:14
GenecksAfterwards, I could browse the web.10:14
GenecksFuck Vista10:14
Dekkarddood.. it was a joke?10:14
GenecksI come from the days when windows had a decimal in it10:14
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GenecksBack when people booted to DOS.10:15
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GenecksAfterwards, you'd hit WIN10:15
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sjapbnc5Hey guys, is this the recent version of the ati driver10:15
sjapbnc5haydar@haydar-desktop:~$ fglrxinfo10:15
sjapbnc5display: :0.0  screen: 010:15
sjapbnc5OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.10:15
sjapbnc5OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 960010:15
sjapbnc5OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)10:15
GenecksI'm not talking about the WIndows key10:15
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GenecksI'm talking about the letters.10:15
Genecks"W" "I" "N"10:16
sjapbnc5And, how can i update it ;o10:16
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Dekkardi only ran win 3.1 once.. it was cute10:16
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Genecksdid you search the forum first, sjap?10:16
Genecksand if it's recent, why update?10:16
kanesjapbnc5: if those are the drivers that come with ubuntu i would leave them there unless you have a specific issue you need resolved.10:17
sjapbnc5I dont know if its the recent version10:17
rkroetchI have a question about the package manager of Kubuntu... How fast/reliable is it? -- I'm looking to switch from Slack / SuSe possibly10:17
sjapbnc5Well, kane it works like a charm10:17
sjapbnc5sometimes10:17
kanesjapbnc5: if they came with fiesty then are pretty recent.10:17
kanewell ATI drivers suck, sometimes.10:17
sjapbnc5i cant play games10:17
sjapbnc5until i reboot10:17
sjapbnc5after running WoW10:18
sjapbnc5on wine10:18
Dekkardrkroetch:  apt walks all over rpm10:18
sjapbnc5xD10:18
rolnyzxrkroetch, if you use Yast in SUSE10:18
kanejust never stop playing wow : )10:18
rolnyzxyou are going to feel a pretty amazing change in speed10:18
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sjapbnc5>:D10:18
sjapbnc5I Really enjoy using kubuntu10:18
sjapbnc5atm10:18
sjapbnc52 weeks10:19
sjapbnc5and counting10:19
rkroetchGood, I loved slack but didn't wish to compile XGL + Beryl from scratch :)10:19
Dekkardlol10:19
kaneyeah its not a bid thing, but updating the drivers for ati require a bit of work.10:19
sjapbnc5i hate ati atm10:19
Dekkardslack is nice10:19
rkroetchKubuntu supports Beryl etc, right?10:19
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kaneand its prolly going to break everytime the kernal gets updated.10:19
Dekkardif yer vid card does10:19
kaneand you will have to do the process again.10:19
sjapbnc5:-C10:19
rolnyzxrkroetch, what kind of video card do you have10:19
kanenext time, i would pick up an nvidia card.10:19
rkroetchNvidia, I can get everything setup with no problems10:20
kanethey are by far and away the best for linux.10:20
rkroetchI just need packages for modern X servers and beryl10:20
rolnyzxthen you won't have any problem10:20
sjapbnc5Yea, but ATi works fine atm10:20
kaneati doesnt even compare really.10:20
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sjapbnc5only some crashes10:20
Dekkardrolnyzx:  try the live cd10:20
rkroetchYeah, I run Beryl right now with SuSe10:20
sjapbnc5on W:ET i'm getting 80-125 FPS10:20
rkroetchBut Novell is a bad company10:20
sjapbnc5native10:20
sjapbnc5But, i'm waiting on ATi10:20
kaneyeah, check like any of the wine or transgaming information about certain games and you will almost always notcie more issues with ati than nvidia.10:20
sjapbnc5for better drivers.10:20
GenecksHere's a question for all of you.10:21
GenecksI'm trying to upload an image to a website.10:21
Dekkardk10:21
kanewell, AMD bought them, and AMD has been good to opensource, so i think they will get better soon(ish_10:21
sjapbnc5Why didnt blizzard make a linux version of WoW10:21
GenecksHowever, my connection drops and the browser crashes when I try to upload.10:21
sjapbnc5they got MAC10:21
rolnyzxDekkard, what?10:21
sjapbnc5but not Linux:(10:21
sjapbnc5>:C10:21
Dekkardrolnyzx:  try the ubuntu/kubuntu live cd10:21
kanesjapbnc5: there was actually a very long thread about that.  A blue finally stated it was due to "networking issues"10:21
rolnyzxDekkard, why10:21
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sjapbnc5i dont believe that10:22
kanei dont either.10:22
kanebut thats what they said.10:22
DekkardGenecks:  what browser?10:22
sjapbnc5Really stupid of them tbh10:22
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GenecksMozilla10:22
sjapbnc5only ID software q3/q310:22
kanei think it just doesnt make finicial sense to them.10:22
kanenot enough people just run linux who wont either duel boot or use cedega to play it.10:22
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kanewith mac, there isnt a whole lot of duelbooting going on, also the have a traditon with mac games.10:22
sjapbnc5Maybe, a stupid question but10:23
sjapbnc5Mac OSX10:23
sjapbnc5can you install it on every computer10:23
kanenot without a hack, last i checked.10:23
Dekkardmajor hack10:23
sjapbnc5LoL guess the drivers suck then10:23
kanebut it is possible.10:24
DekkardGenecks:  this is a webs ite you have access to ..like ablog.. and you are trying to uplad.. and the browser crashes.10:24
kanei'm not sure, likley do drivers at all.10:24
Dekkard wierd10:24
kanefor things like video cards.10:24
sjapbnc5:o10:24
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kanemaybe, you would have to look into it further.10:24
sjapbnc5Well, i wont10:24
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sjapbnc5because i'm 2 lazy :p10:24
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kanesjapbnc5: do you use cedega or wine to run WoW?10:25
sjapbnc5wine10:25
sjapbnc5on cedega its even more sucky10:25
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kanei had pretty good luck with cedega.10:25
kaneback when i played.10:25
sjapbnc5It freezes10:25
sjapbnc5i need to do a full reboot10:25
sjapbnc5and the framerate is really low10:25
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sjapbnc5-                        -                          -10:25
kanehrm.10:25
sjapbnc5something like that10:26
rkroetchAnother question about Kubuntu : Does it mostly use the KControlCenter to manage hardware etc, or does it use its own software like Yast?10:26
tomggahh just play doom instead :D10:26
sjapbnc5>:D10:26
kaneheh or ut200410:26
sjapbnc5snes emulator :p10:26
tomggut rock on!!#10:26
kaneut2007 will be out soon.10:26
sjapbnc5Wolfenstein Enemy-territory10:26
tomggyea im hooked on that atm10:26
sjapbnc5Enemy-territory Quake wars10:26
rkroetchGenecks, check out Krita's script option if you need to do script-based graphics manipulation10:26
sjapbnc5If you really like the game10:26
sjapbnc5u could support10:26
tomggoo not played that10:26
kanei just would like for more game folks to port to linux.10:26
sjapbnc5www.xfire.be10:26
sjapbnc5its the community site10:26
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sjapbnc5of W:ET10:27
kaneif they do mac it shouldnt be much harder to port to linux.10:27
sjapbnc5Yea, just 2 lazy10:27
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sjapbnc5Linux is growing fast10:27
sjapbnc5today i did full update10:28
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sjapbnc5and it updated something with the kernel10:28
|lostbyte|:P10:28
sjapbnc5:S10:28
sjapbnc5:10:28
sjapbnc5P10:28
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sjapbnc5what does this do10:30
sjapbnc5emerge -av wine10:30
kanesjapbnc5: thats a gentoo command10:30
SlimeyPetesjapbnc5: on kubuntu? nothing10:30
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|lostbyte|yeah10:30
SlimeyPetesjapbnc5: the equivalent is "apt-get install wine"10:30
kanesjapbnc5: it install wine on gentoo, im not sure about the -av flags10:30
flakeinstead of opening a terminal and keeping it open to 'make' after using gedit to save the main.cpp file, is there some programmer's tool that is light on resources in and I can add my own script or batch-oriented stuff?10:31
kanegentoo does have an excellent wiki though10:31
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sjapbnc5Yep10:31
sjapbnc5i was looking at the wikii10:31
sjapbnc5i'm like wtf10:31
sjapbnc5alot of stuff there10:31
sjapbnc5i guess Gentoo is for the dieharders10:31
|lostbyte|sjapbnc5, i think its used to list al ackages that are dependent on wine.10:31
|lostbyte|packages*10:31
sjapbnc5:D10:32
kaneflake: well, there is kdevelop10:32
sjapbnc5winecfg10:32
kanebut i wouldnt call it "lite" by any means.10:32
sjapbnc5maybe i got something wrong there10:32
sjapbnc5hmm ill check it out :o10:32
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kaneflake: i personally use kate because you can have a konsole open on the bottom of the screen there and edit multiple files and all.10:33
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sjapbnc5kate > ALL10:34
sjapbnc5Btw, is UT2004 opensource or what10:34
flakekate will fit the bill, thanks kane10:34
sjapbnc5do i need to buy it?10:34
kanesjapbnc5: no its a commercial game.10:35
kanei cant spell today...10:35
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kaneanyways you gotta buy it. its pretty cheap though.10:35
kaneand the linux installer is on the disk.10:35
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sjapbnc5Okay :)10:36
sjapbnc5Unreal Tournament 200410:36
sjapbnc5Lets order it XD10:36
kanelots of good mods for it as well.10:36
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kanemost/all work on linux10:36
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sjapbnc5i hear something about ATi drivers10:37
sjapbnc5going opensource10:37
kanewell they had opensource drivers for some of the older cards.10:37
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kanebut amd might opensource the rest, they have supportes oss in the past.10:39
timmayanyone know what the usb2.0 driver is?10:39
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timmaymore accurate, i am plugging in my blackberry and it says the charge is not enough and to ensure the proper usb driver is installed10:40
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Muz`btw, i'm sjapbnc 5 :p10:40
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|lostbyte|timmay, huh, its supported by default.. why ?10:40
Muz`on bouncer ;oP10:40
kanetimmay: they are very very likley installed.10:41
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DraxNSBluesKaj: so far... so good :-) looks like driver is working fine.. no loop at logoff/restart/shudown...10:41
DraxNSnow... to resolve slmodemd issue.. and I am good :-)10:41
timmayodd10:41
timmaydumb phone10:41
reevesterguys......does kubuntu installation take a long time on old PC's ?10:42
SlimeyPeteyep. Installation of anything modern takes a long time on old PCs ;)10:42
reevestermine has taken more than 20 mins at the light blue screen and still nothing but i can see the DVD-ROM light blinking on and off as if its reading something :S10:42
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kanereevester: depends on the PC.  its basicly just uncompressing files and copying them to the disk.10:42
|lostbyte|reevester, depends on harddisk speed and processor power.10:42
kanereevester: yeah give it time.10:42
BluesKajDraxNS, in the terminal ' fgl_glxgears '10:43
kane20 mins isnt long really.10:43
DraxNSI know... tested it.. BluesKaj10:43
reevesteri finished 6 chapters in a novel that im reading :S10:43
kanereevester: has it even booted to the live cd yet?10:43
BluesKajcool eh ?10:43
DraxNSI got ~145 with gears window up.. and ~500 when minimized10:43
reevesterwell the boot started.....then the light blue screen with the mouse icon appeared.....and then nothing.....10:43
|lostbyte|timmay, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190938 hope this give you a little info.10:43
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kanereevester: ah i see, i really hate that they force you to boot into that live CD.10:44
reevesteratleast it should DO something no/10:44
kanereevester: how much ram do you have?10:44
reevesteryea.....the alternate cd option that ubuntu gives is much better10:44
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DraxNSthat tutorial is a piece of gold BluesKaj :-)10:44
reevesterits a P3 550 Mhz machine with 128 MB RAM10:44
kaneoh no.10:44
kaneyeah10:44
kanethats not going to work with the live cd.10:44
hyper_chreevester: you may rather want to go for xubuntu then...10:45
kanereevester: right, xubuntu with the alt installer.10:45
BluesKajit works for us deprived ATI graphics owners, DraxNS :)10:45
kaneso you dont have to boot to that god-forsaken live cd.10:45
reevesterwell i AM running the xubuntu cd guys10:45
reevesterthats what im trying to say! :P10:45
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reevestershould it take so long?10:45
BluesKajbookmark it for future reference , DraxNS10:45
kaneah, well you are in the Kubuntu channel, so i assumed.10:45
DraxNSwill do.. will do :-)10:45
reevesterohhh oops10:46
kanereevester: because it has to uncompress alot of files, and load them to the ram you dont have.10:46
reevestermy bad O_o10:46
kaneno worries.10:46
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reevesterthis linux stuff is confusing10:46
reevesterxubuntu is the one for slow pc's no?10:46
kaneyou should have at minimum 256 megs of ram.10:46
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kerrichi all :] 10:46
kanethe way ubuntu names stuff is confusing imho.10:46
reevesterwell something has finally come up....its doing something.....10:46
kerriccan any one tell me name of a good dvd player ?10:46
kanereevester: yes, but the live cd still requires some beef on the computers end.10:46
reevestersome round dots doing something in a ball10:46
reevesterhmm kk10:46
hyper_chreevester: yes it is... there are other distros that are maybe better suited...10:46
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kanereevester: yeah its going to come up eventually, its just going to run like crap.10:47
BluesKajDraxNS, I'm a bit of a geography nut , so I simple need google earth to feed my habit :)10:47
hyper_chreevester: but for installation I'd go with the alternate cd...10:47
kaneme too.10:47
BluesKajsimply10:47
kanei think it s a good option to have, but you shouldnt be forced to it.10:47
DraxNShehee... I need my ET RTCW... ;-)10:47
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reevesterwell i actually tried the alternate CD of ubuntu.....but the bloody thing stopped in the "Installing Base System Step"@ 75  %10:47
kanei ran xubuntu on a box similiar to that and it works fairly well, its just the alternate install was easier to perform.10:47
reevesterim getting frustrated! LS10:48
GrahamDraxNS: It's not ET RTCW10:48
GrahamIt's just WET, there is no returning to the castle.10:48
DraxNS:-)10:48
BluesKajDraxNS, ET RTCW ?10:48
kerriccan anyone help me plz ? I need a good dvd player, cause kaffeine and mplayer don't work with this dvd10:48
GrahamWolfenstein: Enemy Territory10:48
DraxNSEnemy Territory... BluesKaj10:48
DraxNSyes10:48
GrahamI'm gona play that again sometime, should download it.10:48
kanekerric: they all use the same back end libs, so if mplayer and kaffeine doesnt work none likley will.10:49
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Solarushey guys10:49
Grahamkane: Not necessarily.10:49
kerricso what i can do to run this dvd ?10:49
phishinphreePhinnFort: thank you again for the pointer about ipv6 causing the stuttering connection issues.  My machine is working much, much better now.10:49
Grahamkerric: Do you have libccs2?10:49
Solarusanyone in here running an nvidia 6200 agp?10:49
kerricekhm10:49
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kerricdunno10:49
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kaneoh right, i forget about that those are not in on a default install i used automatix : )10:50
DraxNSjust to send link to myself :-)10:50
Daisuke_IdoGAH!10:50
DraxNShttp://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty10:50
Daisuke_Idowhen will people learn?10:50
Daisuke_Ido!automatix10:50
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe10:50
Daisuke_IdoIn other words, DON'T use it!10:50
Grahamkerric: sudo apt-get install libcss210:50
kanenah, i dont want to hear the automatix propaganda, i know all about it.10:50
Daisuke_Idothere is nothing in there that can't be installed easily elsewhere.10:50
kerricand this should do Graham ?10:51
Solarusanyone in here running an nvidia 6200 agp?10:51
kanei wasnt suggesting he use, it i was mearly stating i forget about codecs not included.10:51
phishinphreewhats easier than apt-get? i've never found a need for automatix10:51
kerricwhat for is this libcss2 ?10:51
Solarusis there any way to add a graphics driver into the installation sequence before it starts?10:51
Solaruslike an update package?10:52
BluesKaj!libdvdcss2 | kerric10:52
kanekerric do this sudo apt-get install libdvdcss210:52
ubotukerric: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs10:52
jorik808anyone knows where i can find the kde mediacontrol package ? (puts media controls in your taskbar)10:52
kaneit decodes your DVD s.10:52
GrahamYeah, read the wiki on Restricted Formats10:52
kerricthx10:52
GrahamIt'll help you kerric :)10:52
GrahamIma go play open arena, FOR SPARTAAAAA10:52
leileilol:)))))))))10:53
BluesKajyou need it for dvds10:53
DraxNSsmartlink drivers anyone? working on feisty?10:53
kaneisnt there a meta package that installs all thos codecs?10:53
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kerricit is working :)10:54
kerricthx :)10:54
kerricperfect movie for night :]  the godfather :] 10:55
MaTiAz:D10:55
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BluesKajyes kane there is , trying to locate it as we speak10:58
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kaneBluesKaj: maybe ubuntu-restricted-extras11:00
kaneyeah that has some good stuff, but not the libdvdcss11:00
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BluesKajkane : http://designedfor.wordpress.com/2006/10/07/ubuntu-media-codecs/11:02
BluesKajcopy and paste into the terminal11:02
reevesterok in the LIVE CD....once it reaches the login screen....its askin for a username....and theres also a 'User ubuntu will login in 9 seconds'11:03
kaneyeah i have all those, i was just wondering if there was a meta-package that would make it easy for people that ask.  Like an apt-get-install ubuntu-multimedia or whatever.11:03
reevesterwhat do i do there?11:03
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kanereevester: it should just log you in.11:04
reevesterok....so i just hang on right?11:04
reevesterand then what do i do once it apparently loads?11:04
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sarysiek|pl: hey! it is amin81. how are you?11:04
kanethere is an icon on the desktop11:04
kaneand "install xubuntu" or something similar11:05
sahi everyone! two quick questions11:05
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kanejust open it up and follow the prompts.11:05
kaneit will be very slow on your system, so just be patient.11:05
reevestergreat....i might as well go and make some babies while im at it! ^_^11:05
reevesterhehe11:05
reevesterthanks for ur help tho kane :)11:06
kanenp sir.11:06
sa1. how do I change between desktops?11:06
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killermachsa: are you in beryl?11:06
kanesa like kde and gnome?11:06
sa2. if i want to write to someone on konverstation how do I add that persons name without writing it manually?11:06
rysiek|plsa: hi there! net works fine, I hope ;)11:06
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sain KDE11:07
rysiek|plsa: 1. on beryl or in the standard KDE?11:07
rysiek|plsa: 2. start typing he/she's nick and press TAB11:07
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sarysiek|pl: in standard KDE11:07
Quinn_Stormfirst let me preface this by saying this is a real question, I am a kubuntu user and not a gnome user.  I am looking for a kde/kubuntu app/frontend for tracker or something like it (please not beagle, *yuck*).  What should I be looking at?11:08
sarysiek|pl: dont tell me about the network, it is a long story...hahaha11:08
sarysiek|pl: I just got myself a new computer because i had a major hardware problem on the old one11:09
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kaneQuinn_Storm: for tracker, the desktop search gig?11:09
rysiek|plsa: d'oh, so all our work... ;)11:09
BluesKajyeah kane sorry , i shudda looked closer11:09
Quinn_Stormyeah, kane , though I hate the buzzword 'desktop search' :-P11:09
rysiek|plsa: as to changing desktops - just click on the one you want to go to in the Desktop Switcher on tyhe panel11:09
Zaviewhat do you guys think is better GNOME or KDE ...i have them both and i was just wondering what your opinions were?11:10
sarysiek|pl: part of our work was saved on a memory stick11:10
Quinn_StormZavie: this *is* #/K/ubuntu so...11:10
kaneyeah, i saw a tool for it the other day, lemme look...i normally just enter whatever i want to find in the konqueror window and it does a locate type thing thats similiar to the "desktop search" stuff.11:10
Quinn_Stormkane: yeah but locate doesn't do metadata indexing like tracker/beagle11:10
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Quinn_Stormand locate doesn't have an inotify-based fs-watcher that autoupdates and thus eliminates the crawl11:10
rysiek|plsa: the most important part got through to the bugtracker11:10
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illriginalHey guys? Can anyone help me with my desktop settings?11:11
rysiek|plsa: and that's the really important thing :)11:11
sarysiek|pl: but I had forgotten that we changed from a : to a ; at the end of our work11:11
jthomasillriginal: whats up?11:11
illriginaljthomas... how you doin!11:11
sarysiek|pl: so sat with the network setup for an hour before i figured out the problem....hehehe11:12
jthomaswell, doin well...11:12
rysiek|plsa: :)11:12
illriginaljthomas, my background is dark, and the font color of my time, and menu list as well as the tabs of open windows are all black11:12
sarysiek|pl: that is the reason I wrote to you, sorry about the bugreport, I thought I would post it now11:12
illriginaljthomas, thus making it hard for me to see them properly11:12
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rysiek|plsa: huh? why are you apologizing? I don't get it11:13
sarysiek|pl: havnt had the opportunity before as I have been travelling the past 2 weeks and just got back yesterday11:13
illriginaljthomas, what I would like to know is, is it possible to change the font color of the time/date, menu list, and open windows that are shown on the button bar?11:13
illriginalbottom*11:13
jthomasillriginal: change some colours maybe?  sorry i have to go, i thought i could help but i have to work ;(11:13
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illriginalok11:13
sarysiek|pl: I was supposed to post a bug report and then mail it to you11:13
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kaneQuinn_Storm: ahhh i was using tracker-search-tool, but i think its written in GTK and not a kde app.11:13
rysiek|plsa: I think I have posted it11:14
Quinn_Stormyeah that's gtk, but it'll have to do11:14
Quinn_Stormtracker is so much > than beagle11:14
rysiek|plsa: don't quite remember, though11:14
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sarysiek|pl: ok, I'll post a report then11:14
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kaneyeah i liked it the little i used it.11:14
rysiek|plsa: do a search first, should there be a similar one ;)11:14
kaneQuinn_Storm: have you tried "kat"11:14
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sarysiek|pl: yuo will have to send me your email address again though...it is on my old retired computer11:14
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Quinn_Stormhmm, no...11:14
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kanei remember it came with an mandriva the last time i used it and its a KDE app.11:15
sarysiek|pl: oh, ok11:15
kanebut i dont know what back end it uses.11:15
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kanei have not used to recenetly.11:15
rysiek|plsa: rysiek_AT_rysiek.ath.cx11:15
Quinn_Stormit uses its own, kane , according to its description11:15
illriginalCan anyone help me with my desktop settings? Changing the font color of the menulist, date/time, etc...11:15
sarysiek|pl: by the way, regarding changing desktop, I ment if there is a way to change with the keys11:15
kaneahh, i know when i used it a 2 or so years ago it was buggy as hell, i had to unisnstall it from the defualt mandrake install.11:16
rysiek|plsa: sure, Ctrl+F<DESKTOP_NUMBER>11:16
ShadyTreeyou can configure it11:16
rysiek|plsa: Ctrl+F1 for the first, etc11:16
Quinn_Stormkat is also defunct, according to its webpage11:16
ShadyTreeI use Ctrl+Alt+ Arrow keys11:16
rolnyzxillriginal, click on kde icon and then system settings11:16
kaneD'oh.  so it goes, might have to wait for "Strigi" or whatever its called for a proper KDE soluton.11:17
rolnyzxillriginal, then go to appearance11:17
ShadyTreeSystem Settings - Keyboard & Mouse - Keyboard shortcuts11:17
illriginalrolynyzx, small problem! I'm on gnome!11:17
sarysiek|pl: cool! thanx11:17
illriginalrolnyzx*11:17
rolnyzxillriginal, try this systemsettings11:18
rysiek|plsa: no prob :)11:18
illriginaltype that into terminal?11:18
rolnyzxyes11:18
ShadyTreedoes KDE have this:  a keyboard shortcut to stroll to the last desktop on the right, or left,  instead of autoscrolling to the opposite end11:18
rolnyzxtry11:18
illriginalrolnyzx ah nice, i can install it :)11:18
ShadyTreeI mean,  move to the right each destkop, but when it gets to the end, it stops11:18
ShadyTreelike in GNOME11:18
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Quinn_Stormyeah it looks like tracker is the KDE solution too, I hope at least, its FDO-approved11:19
illriginalrolnyzx kde systemsettings will work on gnome, yes?11:19
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rolnyzxi don't know, but i would try11:19
ShadyTreetest11:19
kaneShadyTree: hrm, i think beryl can be set to do that, but i dont know if you can without it.11:19
illriginalok downloading right now :)11:19
ShadyTreekane, ok ty11:20
sarysiek|pl: i had problems with the touch pad on my new comp but got it finally working11:20
rysiek|plsa: :)11:21
sarysiek|pl: :)11:21
ShadyTreecan you theme the login screen too11:22
ShadyTreeoh yeah, you can. but how11:22
sarysiek|pl: I gotta get something to eat, will look into our bugreport! talk to you later, bye!11:22
sabye everyone!11:22
rysiek|plcya sa11:22
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ShadyTreewhat is the login screen called, at kde-look.org11:23
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melkarti can hear my own voice through the mic in the speakers, but i can't record it with krecord... how can i possibly fix this?11:23
ShadyTreeI mean how do I change the login screen11:23
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marko<melkart> kmix11:24
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markoyou should put the mic's voulme to 011:25
markoand let it on11:25
melkartmarko: within kmix i turned the volume of "pcm", "front", "front mic", "line" and "mic" to max, the others to min... how should it be?11:25
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melkartok, wait..11:25
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marko<melkart> mic put to min line shut it off if you dont use it11:26
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melkartwithin "krecord" if i go to "audio properties" the title says "OSS" sound system, although it should be alsa...11:27
cox377does anyone know how to make programs start up upon start from command line?11:27
rolnyzxcox377, ~/.kde/Autostart/11:28
cox377rolnyzx: umm what do i do with it mate?11:29
melkartwhen i try to play what i recorded, it says "device or ressouce busy"11:29
rolnyzxcox377, put your script in there and it will load when kde starts11:29
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markomelkart11:29
markodo you use voip11:29
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markoare they working11:30
cox377rolnyzx: ahh ok11:30
melkartmarko: i dont know what voip is, sorry :/11:30
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blekoshi, my kmail has stopped sending emails11:30
blekosno explainations, no nothing...11:31
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rolnyzxblekos, are you using your own mailserver?11:31
markomelkart skype wengo etc..11:31
melkartmarko: i tried to get skype to work, without success11:32
melkartmy mic is known to work, however, under win xp11:32
blekosno,11:32
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markois mic button green11:32
markosorry red11:32
blekosthe funny thins,is i get mails, but 4 some reason, i cannot send11:32
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blekosit doesnt even try...11:33
melkartmarko: yes11:33
markowhen you click it11:33
markoits dark red or11:33
rolnyzxblekos, have you tried some other client? maybe it's the server11:33
melkartmarko: where could i click it? it's light red11:33
markook11:33
markoand the green button up11:34
markois it light green or ?11:34
blekoshow can it be the server? Kmail, doesnt even pop ups the window on the bottom right corner of attempting to send mail11:34
blekosmy mails are just stuck in the outbox11:34
melkartmarko: i dont understand what u mean11:34
rolnyzxblekos, you could try to reinstall kmail11:34
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markothere is red button, a slider for volume and green button11:35
ergomezhola ayuda en espaol?11:35
markothe buttons should be light color11:35
melkartmarko: in which program now? krecord?11:35
markoand the slider should be set to 011:35
markokmix11:35
red__ergomez: qual es tu problema?11:36
rolnyzxergomez, #kubuntu-es11:36
ergomezjeje es que he formateado y he perdido los otros irc en espaol11:36
melkartmarko: in the "input" tab or where?11:36
ergomezese es gracias11:36
markoinput11:36
ergomezkubuntu-es11:36
ergomez jeje11:36
markoin mic11:36
melkartok, i click the buttons now, they turn from dark red to light red11:37
melkartthe sliders are both set to 011:37
markoit should be light11:37
markook11:37
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markoand green button should be also light11:37
ergomezred_ lo mismo puedes ayudarme11:37
markoand the others11:37
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ergomezes una pregunta facil11:37
markothe other input what you have11:37
illriginalhm... seems like KDE-System Settings does NOT work with GNOME.11:38
rolnyzxillriginal, damn it11:38
melkartmarko: thank you! i got to to work now! :)11:39
melkartmarko: thanx to your help! :)11:39
markoit work11:39
markogood11:39
melkart:-)11:39
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illriginalrolnyzx yeah.. maybe GNOME can't be changed easily? lol or Can't be changed at all?11:39
ergomezen ese canal no hay gente algn otro canal en espaol11:39
markomelkart no problem11:39
markoglad to help11:39
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rolnyzxillriginal, ah i thought you wanted to change kde, for gnome, gnome-font-properties11:41
melkartmarko: i can hear, what i record, with krecord now, but i still couldnt get skype to work yet... do u have any ideas about that, too?11:41
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rolnyzxillriginal, for themes gnome-theme-manager11:42
rolnyzxergomez, #ubuntu-es11:42
markochoose alsa in the settings menu in skype11:42
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markoand restart it11:42
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melkartmarko: done that, still doesnt work11:43
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illriginalrolnyzx for font, it only gives you choices for what font and font size, not the color :x11:43
ergomezgracias11:43
markoyou make skype test call11:43
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melkartmarko: yes, i do... i dont hear my own recording11:43
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markoand with krecord11:44
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melkartwith krecord i do hear my own recording11:44
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markomelkart delete ~/.skype11:47
markoand then the settings should be restored to default11:47
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melkartmarko: oh... now the test call doesnt even begin, it says "problem with sound device"... settings are, as before, to alsa11:49
Emesshi, im having some issues installing Fesity, anyone available to help? when i booted the cd, it gave the error "[ 123.759943 ]  ata1: port failed to respond (30secs, Status 0xd0)" followed by a similar message "[ 170.837764 ]  Buffer I/O Error on device fd0, Logical Block 0"11:49
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melkartmarko: ah, now it works... mompls11:49
pascalicomment installer codecs w3211:50
melkartmarko: but i still cant hear my own recording11:50
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markomelkart i had that problem before 3 months ago11:50
markoi didnt solved it11:50
markouprade your ubuntu11:51
markoand reinstall skype11:51
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melkartmarko: ok, i'll try that (although i have the last release, but i havent yet updated all the packages to their latest version)11:52
markoyou could try wengo phone to see if that work11:53
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melkartmarko: ok, i'll try that, too11:53
Emesseventually after displaying the second error 5 times it booted into the desktop, but when detecting the harddrive to install to nothing showed up11:53
markowengo phone is actualy better than skype11:54
markoit support's camera in linux11:54
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markoits open source11:54
markoand you can also connect it to msn yahoo jabber..11:54
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melkartEmess: i cant help you :/ but i had a similar problem both with debian 4.0 and knoppix and "solved" it by using kubuntu - then it worked for me... :S11:56
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Emesskubuntu is the problem, im not sure if its just my box or a kernel error tho, because syslogger doesnt have an entry for it :S11:56
galaxygazerEmess?? whats happening?11:57
Emesscomputer is taking ages to boot of the live cd and has an error "ata1: port failed to respond (30 secs, Status 0xd0)" and "Buffer I/O Error on device fd0, Logical Block 0"11:58
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Emessany ideas?12:02
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Emessok, going to try edgy then try upgrading12:04
bharathemess, what seems to be the problem?12:05
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deadowldoes anyone here know a lot about wireless networking?12:06
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TheCreationistWhat program do I use to add files to an .ISO image?12:10
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melkartmarko: cant get it to work (neither skype nor wengo) with upgraded kubuntu12:10
markoi'm not surre12:11
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