[12:15] <space_ninja> but
[12:15] <athena> space_ninja, far from it
[12:15] <mhb> fdoving: I wanted to try that as an alternative approach, thanks.
[12:15] <fdoving> mhb: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Howto/Chroot#Launch_X_Applications_inside_the_chroot
[12:15] <space_ninja> then which version of kde does the newest kubuntu have?
[12:15] <athena> 3.5.6
[12:17] <dwidmann> athena: well, it has come a long way, gotta give it some credit there eh? Oh, and space_ninja, kde 3.5.7 is available though it's not in by default (it was released not so long ago, sometime after the 7.04 release)
[12:17] <mhb> fdoving: the xhost +localhost approach didn't work either. Guess I have to test the ssh.
[12:18] <athena> dwidmann, he just asked if it was done..
[12:18] <athena> and it's not
[12:18] <space_ninja> ok
[12:19] <dwidmann> Think the planned release is somewhere around november ...
[12:19] <space_ninja> I'm going to download a iso, but what is alternate?
[12:19] <athena> ^^
[12:19] <athena> space_ninja, alternate is the correct way to install Ubuntu/Kubuntu
[12:20] <dwidmann> athena: correct? They both work equally well, what makes you say it's more correct?
[12:20] <space_ninja> :)
[12:20] <athena> dwidmann, it uses less memory, provides more options, and is less prone to failure
[12:20] <space_ninja> what's the real difference?
[12:20] <dwidmann> Agreed
[12:21] <athena> meh, whatever works for you
[12:21] <dwidmann> space_ninja: in one instance you get a full gui, which is both a good thing and a bad thing simultaneously, for the above listed reasons.
[12:21] <dwidmann> Then again, the live cd does make a good trusty rescue cd :)
[12:21] <athena> yeah, it's good to have both
[12:23] <dwidmann> Or better yet, have the DVD, best of both worlds :)
[12:23] <space_ninja> aha, so with alternate I boot the installation immediately, and with the other one I get inside a working environement
[12:23] <space_ninja> or whatever you call it
[12:24] <athena> yes
[12:26] <yknott> space_ninja: yes and with the livecd you have the option to install the livecd contents to the computer
[12:26] <space_ninja> yep
[12:26] <Sanne> space_ninja: another difference is, the alternate cd can be used as a software repository while the live cd can not.
[12:27] <athena> ^^
[12:27] <athena> the Live CD has about 2 packages on it. The Alternate has a full mirror of your install.
[12:27] <dwidmann> In other words, you can't use the live cd for upgrading from one version to another
[12:27] <athena> nope
[12:28] <yknott> dwidmann: correct; you could install over the old version, using the livecd, but could not perform an upgrade using the livecd
[12:28] <space_ninja> ok
[12:28] <space_ninja> is there a direct connect program in kubuntu as default?
[12:28] <athena> direct connect? as in DCC?
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> no
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> as in DC
[12:29] <space_ninja> DC
[12:29] <dwidmann> I still hold my older hardly spoken of argument for the DVD. All of the advantages and none of the disadvantages :)
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> space_ninja: there isn't.
[12:29] <space_ninja> ok
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> but there are clients availabel
[12:29] <Daisuke_Ido> available, even
[12:29] <space_ninja> but what does the repository offers?
[12:29] <space_ninja> what's their names
[12:29] <athena> dwidmann, other than a massive download time?
[12:29] <dwidmann> athena: or a short wait for the post to get it to you, let someone else do the downloading for you
[12:30] <athena> oh... DC++
[12:30] <space_ninja> ok nice
[12:31] <athena> space_ninja, um, no, DC++ isn't a program..
[12:31] <space_ninja> aha
[12:31] <Daisuke_Ido> DC++ is a program
[12:31] <athena> well, to be more accurate, it's not a Linux one
[12:31] <space_ninja> :D
[12:31] <athena> try valknut
[12:31] <athena> there's also dcgui
[12:32] <Daisuke_Ido> dc-qt
[12:32] <Daisuke_Ido> but i'd recommend valknut
[12:33] <space_ninja> last time I tried it, was a long time ago tho, it looked old and messy
[12:33] <space_ninja> any improvements?
[12:33] <yknott> so it saves the world now, give it a go
[12:34] <space_ninja> ok
[12:36] <DrX> OK geniuses, this ones been giving me a butt-kicking for the last 2 months:  how do I get a Xen VM guest manually Linux installer to see the source files via either Hard Disk, CD ROM or NFS share (they all work fine in the host OS)?
[12:36] <kilrae> anyone know if there's a way to get two instances of Kate running at the same time (as the same user)
[12:37] <yknott> other than clicking on its shortcut twice?
[12:37] <kilrae> yknott: second time just focuses the already open one
[12:38] <Sanne> kilrae: I can do it. I remember configuring something so it works... let me try to find it.
[12:39] <yknott> kilrae: not sure, it is not doing that for me; each time i click the shortcut it opens another
[12:39] <yknott> perhaps i too changed something
[12:40] <gianluca_> ubuntu.it
[12:40] <gianluca_> Ubuntu.it?
[12:40] <gianluca_> come faccio
[12:40] <gianluca_> ?
[12:40] <yknott> grazie
[12:40] <Minataku> !it | gianluca_
[12:40] <ubotu> gianluca_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:40] <Minataku> :)
[12:40] <marko> is there official channel for linux-gamers
[12:43] <Sanne> kilrae: I can't find it in kate settings, but I will continue to look. May take a minute though.
[12:44] <kilrae> Sanne: it's ok, I'll just use kate and quanta, practically the same as having two kates
[12:46] <gianluca_> ubuntu-it
[12:46] <gianluca_> #ubuntu-it
[12:49] <tjl30> does anyone know how I can change the name of my slave drive? Right now it is called /media/Extra_ but before it was /media/hd2 which is where my music player db thinks it is
[12:50] <Sanne> kilrae: on a related note, you can split the kate window for seeing two files side by side, maybe that helps for what you want to do.
[12:50] <Minataku> Add a static entry to /etc/fstab
[12:51] <space_ninja> check /etc/fstab and  ls /media
[12:53] <tjl30> the fstab is the same as it used to be
[12:53] <tjl30> and the hd2 folder is still in media but there are no files in it
[12:53] <Minataku> It'll be there, yeah
[12:53] <Minataku> It's just a mount point
[12:54] <Minataku> A mount point is an empty (or even populated) folder
[12:54] <Minataku> It's contents are replaced with that of the device mounted there
[12:54] <dwidmann> kilrae: I have a way
[12:54] <Minataku> tjl30: Hm
[12:55] <dwidmann> kilrae: pull up konsole and open a second tab while you're at it. In the first type oh, something like "kate --start new1", in the second tab use "kate --start new2", just give them a different session and all should be well
[12:56] <Sanne> kilrae: I believ I found it. Look at the command line that starts your kate. If kate is started with "kate -u" then it will open new documents in an existing kate already open. Take out the -u and you should be able to have multiple kate windows. See also: kate -h
[12:59] <Sanne> works also :)
[12:59] <dwidmann> but of course
[01:00] <Sanne> dwidmann: but it works here also with just "kate file1.txt" and "kate file2.txt"
[01:01] <dwidmann> Yes, never said you coudln't tack that on to the end, plus there's always the benefit of easily picking the session you want if you do it my way though (point I was trying to make, actually)
[01:02] <cindy> salut
[01:02] <MaTiAz> Kate is a nice editor :)
[01:02] <cindy> c est koi le site francais
[01:02] <cindy> kubuntu franch
[01:02] <Minataku> !fr | cindy
[01:03] <cindy> ?
[01:03] <ubotu> cindy: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:03] <cindy> merci
[01:03] <Minataku> np
[01:03] <Sanne> dwidmann: I must admit I don't know what --start actually does... will go read now. I didn't want to imply my way is better than yours, just complementing. :)
[01:03] <cindy> cool
[01:04] <Sanne> dwidmann: I see now, start with a session... very useful, thanks.
[01:08] <DarkShock> hi, I have a really weird problem here. On my user, I can't connect to http(s), pop3 connections. But if I launch konqueror as root, I can get http connection. Also IRC, Jabber, SVN works on my normal user
[01:08] <DarkShock> using Kubuntu Feisty, KDE 3.5.7 and kppp (dial-up connection)
[01:12] <Tired_> How does Kubuntu handle hardware changes?  I'm thinking about replacing my GeForce FX 5200 with a GeForce 6600...will my system still boot after?
[01:12] <daaaman64> Tired_ yes
[01:12] <daaaman64> all that really matters is what driver is installed.
[01:12] <Tired_> Will I need to reo the drivers, or are the nvidia drivers sufficiently generic?
[01:12] <LjL> the latter
[01:12] <daaaman64> Tired_ yes in this case
[01:12] <Tired_> :)
[01:13] <stanley> hi guys...everytime i try opening adep, an error message appears saying su returned with an error
[01:13] <stanley> plz help me fix this
[01:14] -Nop:#kubuntu- You have 1 new message. Type /server mail to read.
[01:14] <PriceChild> DON'T!!!
[01:14] <PriceChild> Please no-one do that.
[01:14] <daaaman64> PriceChild: why?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> hes starting to piss me off now
[01:14] <gnomefreak> daaaman64: it will dissconnect you
[01:14] <PriceChild> daaaman64, it will disconnect you :)
[01:15] <talonzz> hey guys
[01:15] <talonzz> wooohooo kubuntu and beryl roxxxxxxxxxxx
[01:15] <daaaman64> PriceChild, that is f'd up
[01:15] <LjL> PriceChild: why? i just did it. opened a new server tab
[01:15] <PriceChild> LjL, not all clients open new tabs.
[01:15] <LjL> sane ones :P
[01:15] <PriceChild> LjL, irssi, xchat etc. don't
[01:15] <PriceChild> pfft :)
[01:15] <PriceChild> that's what /connect is for :)
[01:15] <K-Ryan> Hey guys
[01:16] <talonzz> dudes i have a quick question on how to added beryl on startup can't seem to find the tab in kubuntu =(
[01:16] <K-Ryan> I just popped "sudo apt-get upgrade" in my terminal
[01:16] <crdlb> !autostart | talonzz
[01:16] <ubotu> talonzz: To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[01:16] <K-Ryan> But I get "THe following packages have been kept back:" and it's all 5 of the packages that were to be upgraded
[01:16] <stanley> yea...uhm guys
[01:16] <K-Ryan> What's up stanley?
[01:17] <stanley> when i try opening adept is says su returned with an error k-ryan
[01:17] <stanley> i dunno how to fix this
[01:17] <K-Ryan> !aptfix
[01:17] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:17] <K-Ryan> Try that
[01:17] <stanley> ok
[01:18] <K-Ryan> Anyone know why when I try to upgrade the upgradable packages it holds all the upgrades back?
[01:19] <K-Ryan> The packages are hal, linux-386, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-386, linux-restricted-modules-386
[01:20] <K-Ryan> Anyone else have that problem?
[01:21] <crdlb> K-Ryan, you shouldn't be using linux-386 on edgy or feisty
[01:21] <K-Ryan> I don't know what it is
[01:21] <crdlb> you should make sure you have linux-generic installed
[01:21] <crdlb> and remove all the -386 packages
[01:22] <K-Ryan> Didn't have linux-generic
[01:22] <K-Ryan> I haven't had any problems though...
[01:23] <mtv> in terminal how to i check filesizes
[01:24] <JohnFlux> mtv: ls -la  *
[01:24] <JohnFlux> mtv: well just:  ls -la
[01:24] <K-Ryan> crdlb: Are you sure? I'm getting some errors now
[01:24] <talonzz> !autostart
[01:24] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[01:24] <crdlb> !generic
[01:24] <ubotu> Background to the decision to replace -686, k7 and -smp kernels with -generic can be found here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-August/019983.html (the -386 kernel is still available if needed)
[01:25] <mtv> thank you
[01:27] <K-Ryan> crdlb: I don't get it
[01:27] <don> hey can somebody help me
[01:27] <K-Ryan> don: I'm sure someone can help you, but you need to let us know what you need help with.
[01:28] <don> i have an Intel 815 grapphics card but Kubuntu recognizes it as a 810 and the resolution is 640 x 480 and it wont let me change it but I Know it can be changed on Windows
[01:28] <don> I can change it up to 1027x768 on Windows
[01:28] <K-Ryan> You're going to need to modify your xorg.conf
[01:29] <K-Ryan> It lists what resolutions are available for choosing.
[01:29] <don> I have no clue on how to do that
[01:29] <don> Okay..
[01:29] <K-Ryan> I figured, and that's alright. But there's more to it
[01:29] <K-Ryan> Which I'm not sure about, but I'm going to try to figure it out.
[01:29] <don> oik
[01:29] <don> ok*
[01:30] <daaaman64> don, have you posted in the forums at all?  I am not sure that your gonna solve this one easy over irc.  I would search and post on ubuntuforums.org
[01:30] <daaaman64> I am sure there is someone else in your situation.  Is this a laptop?
[01:30] <don> yes it is
[01:30] <K-Ryan> daaaman64: It's not that hard
[01:30] <K-Ryan> don: http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[01:31] <NightVVulf> before I had thought that I was only having an issue with a external drive mounting. but it looks like my secondary internal no longer mounts with the system. the drive is part of the install. I'm thinking that when it failed to mount is the reason I have gotten some of the errors I have been dealing with.
[01:31] <don> alright, and what exactly do i do wiht that
[01:31] <K-Ryan> Getting the information to fill that out might be a little tricky
[01:31] <daaaman64> don, I would just google the laptop's model number with the word feisty after that and you'll probably find a solution.
[01:31] <NightVVulf> is there any reason a HD would stop mounting at startup? the drive seems to be working fine.
[01:32] <K-Ryan> NightVVulf: type sudo mount -a in your terminal and let me know what it says.
[01:32] <K-Ryan> don: Google your laptop for your monitor specs then fill out http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
[01:32] <K-Ryan> It will give you the information you'll need to put in your xorg.conf
[01:33] <Zeelot> how do you search for a process?
[01:33] <K-Ryan> Well you can use the search bar in ctrl+esc
[01:34] <Zeelot> thank you
[01:34] <K-Ryan> You're welcome ;)
[01:34] <NightVVulf> K-Ryan: Terminal returns with nothing
[01:34] <K-Ryan> NightVVulf: What was the drive's name? ie /dev/hda1, etc.
[01:35] <bomber> son of a beeswax
[01:35] <K-Ryan> Hmm?
[01:35] <bomber> i upgraded kubuntu
[01:35] <K-Ryan> From and to?
[01:35] <NightVVulf> K-Ryan: /dev/hdb1
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> bomber: this sounds like a good thing
[01:36] <bomber> and now i cant get the system to boot nongraphica
[01:36] <K-Ryan> NightVVulf: what does sudo mount /dev/hdb1 return?
[01:36] <bomber> in theory Daisuke_Ido it always looks good on paper
[01:37] <don> i went onto google and typed in inspiron 2500 feisty and that didnt help
[01:37] <NightVVulf> K-Ryan: mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[01:37] <DrX> what type of filesystem (e.g., -t ext3) should i specify when mounting an LVM2 volume?
[01:37] <K-Ryan> don: Read my messages after what that other guy said.
[01:38] <K-Ryan> NightVVulf: Alright, type in kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[01:38] <don> ok i did and im still not sure of what to do
[01:38] <K-Ryan> Sorry guys, gotta go, ask for help in here though someone is bound to help.
[01:39] <NightVVulf> damn
[01:44] <DrX> what does "Linux Native" translate to in a mount -t xxx command?
[01:47] <jacques> hi there
[01:51] <zoohouse> Hello everyone
[01:53] <ziemer> hello
[01:53] <carlosmsv> holaaaaaaaaaaaa alguie habla espaol
[01:54] <carutsu_> don have you tried ubuntu laptop? very nice place
[01:56] <zoohouse> I haveing a weird problem. I am guessing that it is a problem with my video card but I want to see if anyone here might know more about it. I came back from vacationing and powered on my computer. The bios messages came up in a aqua green color. In other words everything that userd to be white is now a weird aqua green color. When I log into my os (kubuntu), the screen has a aqua green haze.. It's super weird. I know my LCD monitor isn't
[01:56] <zoohouse> busted because the monitor has an internal TV tuner and when I watch TV on it, the color is just fine. The problem is with the video feed from the computer. Is that the video card? What might be wrong?
[01:56] <mcrandello> is there a setting that I possibly messed up that would cause ark to not work when invoked from a zipfile on a webpage in konq?
[01:57] <mcrandello> zoohouse: that sounds like what happens when you have a bad cable in a CRT
[01:57] <zoohouse> really?
[01:57] <Minataku> zoohouse: Check the cable or the card
[01:57] <mcrandello> not sure if one of the wires breaking inside the cable would cause aqua-green on an LCD tho
[01:58] <Minataku> One of the two is probably gonna be bad.
[01:58] <zoohouse> Minataku: i tried to tight it before. Let me try removing it and then reconnecting brb
[01:58] <mcrandello> zoohouse: probably not bad right at the plug but where the cable itself first bends
[01:59] <mcrandello> if you can wiggle the cable and the color comes and goes then there's your culprit
[01:59] <zoohouse> yea, it's not the plug... :(
[01:59] <zoohouse> How can that be fixed?
[01:59] <carlosmsv> somebody speak in english?
[01:59] <Nuked> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (headers and libra
[01:59] <Nuked> ries) not found. Please check your installation!
[01:59] <mcrandello> if it's the cable it's fixed with a new cable
[01:59] <Minataku> zoohouse: I'm thinking your card could be bad
[01:59] <Minataku> Try another monitor if possible
[02:00] <Nuked> what do I install to satisfy that build dep?
[02:00] <carlosmsv> somebody speak in english?
[02:00] <carlosmsv> somebody speak in spanish
[02:00] <Minataku> Or try that LCD on another computer
[02:00] <BluesKaj> carlosmsv, we all speak english here
[02:00] <Nuked> !es
[02:00] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:00] <carlosmsv> somebody speak in spanish
[02:00] <zoohouse> Yea i am going to have to try it on another computer to see for sure
[02:00] <carlosmsv> thank you
[02:00] <zoohouse> ok cool, thanks everyone
[02:00] <mcrandello> gl
[02:00] <Minataku> If the picture is good on a different system
[02:00] <zoohouse> then it's the card
[02:00] <Minataku> The first system has a bad or mis-seated card
[02:01] <Nuked> anyone able to answer my question?
[02:01] <Minataku> Pop it out and reseat it first
[02:01] <zoohouse> gatcha
[02:01] <Minataku> If the problem persists, blame the card
[02:01] <mcrandello> meantime anyone know why I can't download and open zipfiles with ark from konq?
[02:01] <zoohouse> i hope it is that, a misseated card
[02:01] <Minataku> I have a Sun Ultra 1 with a CG6 with the same problem
[02:01] <mcrandello> it's not the cache, I have that turned on and this is a small zipfile
[02:01] <zoohouse> ok thanks Minataku,
[02:01] <Minataku> zoohouse: np
[02:02] <Nuked> Minataku,  any chance you can help with my question?
[02:02] <Minataku> Nuked: Install Qt >=3.3 and <4.0
[02:02] <mcrandello> Nuked: apt-cache search qt|grep dev
[02:02] <Minataku> !info qt
[02:02] <ubotu> Package qt does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:02] <Minataku> !qt
[02:02] <ubotu> Qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and is used by many applications to provide a !GUI. Install the libqt3-mt-dev package to compile Qt applications
[02:03] <cloyette> I need to know how to configure my wireless connection
[02:03] <Minataku> !info libqt3-mt-dev
[02:03] <ubotu> libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In component main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.8really3.3.7-0ubuntu5 (feisty), package size 47 kB, installed size 164 kB
[02:03] <Minataku> Yeah, you need that one there
[02:03] <Nuked> thanks alot minataku mcrandello
[02:03] <mcrandello> cloyette: type "knetworkmanager &"
[02:03] <cloyette> where?
[02:04] <Minataku> Nuked: np
[02:04] <mcrandello> at a konsole prompt...
[02:04] <zerozero> is there a file somewhere where I can see all of the errors or issues that came up diurning a dist-upgrade?
[02:04] <cloyette> ok
[02:04] <mcrandello> or click on the kde menu then hit "run command"
[02:04] <jacques> it seems that getautomatix is down?
[02:04] <LjL> !automatix
[02:04] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[02:05] <BluesKaj> !WorksForMe
[02:05] <hidan>  !WorksForMe
[02:05] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:05] <Nuked> minataku one more question... the kde headers package is what?
[02:06] <jacques> what is WorksForMe
[02:06] <mcrandello> Nuked: pt-cache search kde|grep headers
[02:06] <Minataku> Nuked: No idea, sorry >.<
[02:06] <mcrandello> erm *apt-cache
[02:06] <Nuked> mcrandello, I did that and its game headers
[02:07] <mcrandello> crap I just realized that one doesn't bring it up sorry
[02:07] <Nuked> mcrandello, do you know which it is?
[02:07] <mcrandello> I'm guessing kde-devel
[02:07] <Nuked> sounds like a plan
[02:08] <K-Ryan> I'm back
[02:08] <mcrandello> "apt-cache search kde|grep devel" lists all the development files one of them should have them
[02:09] <Nuked> kde-devel is such a large package
[02:09] <sa> Hey guys
[02:09] <K-Ryan> Hi there sa
[02:09] <sa> I cannot get my mousepad to work
[02:10] <sa> anyone got any advice?
[02:10] <K-Ryan> Touch pad on a laptop?
[02:10] <sa> yes
[02:10] <K-Ryan> Because mousepad is, never mind.
[02:11] <K-Ryan> !touchpad
[02:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:11] <sa> sorry, touch pad
[02:11] <sa> hehe
[02:11] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[02:11] <K-Ryan> It's okay =P
[02:11] <redoo> Hello
[02:11] <K1765> How do you bring up a process list?
[02:11] <Nuked> ps ax
[02:11] <K-Ryan> K1765: ctrl+esc
[02:11] <JohnFlux> K1765: ctrl+esc
[02:11] <K-Ryan> Hi redoo
[02:11] <K1765> ty.
[02:11] <K-Ryan> sa: I'm not sure, my friend's laptop never had a problem
[02:11] <redoo> need a little help with gaim
[02:11] <sa> hmm
[02:11] <sa> ok
[02:11] <sa> i didnt have a problem on my old laptop either
[02:12] <JohnFlux> !synaptic
[02:12] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[02:12] <K-Ryan> Keep asking around though sa
[02:12] <Nuked> redoo join #gaim
[02:12] <sa> ok, thank you
[02:12] <JohnFlux> sa: bah, look for synaptic
[02:12] <redoo> k thx
[02:12] <JohnFlux> sa: not the package manager, but the usual touchpad drivers
[02:12] <mcrandello> sa also try the Fn key to turn it on/off once just to make sure that isn't it
[02:14] <sa> mcranello
[02:14] <sa> mcranello: just tried the fn key
[02:14] <sa> not it
[02:14] <mcrandello> k
[02:15] <sa> johnflux: where do I look for synaptic?
[02:15] <K-Ryan> It's in System
[02:15] <sa> johnflux: linux newbie :s
[02:15] <K-Ryan> Under the KDE Menu
[02:15] <sa> K-ryan: ok, thank you
[02:15] <K-Ryan> No problem
[02:15] <K-Ryan> You can use Synaptic or Adept
[02:16] <K-Ryan> I prefer Adept myself, and when I know what I want to download I flat out use the terminal
[02:16] <sa> brb
[02:16] <K1765> Could anyone tell me why my system froze up.. when i try a run a game?
[02:16] <Nivuahc> quick question: when creating a new user, how do I give them the ability to sudo other than adding them to the sudo group?
[02:17] <BluesKaj> what are the advantages of using Aptitude to DL & Install apps ?
[02:17] <K-Ryan> K1765: What game?
[02:17] <K1765> WoW
[02:17] <pulaski> hello
[02:17] <K-Ryan> BluesKaj: I'm told it keeps track of dependencies and and removes them if the package is removed.
[02:17] <K-Ryan> Hi pulaski.
[02:17] <K-Ryan> K1765: There's a Linux version? Or are you using Wine?
[02:17] <K1765> K-Ryan: It would work before I fixed my driver.. now it wont even load up
[02:18] <K1765> K-Ryan: Wine
[02:18] <pulaski> hello K-Ryan, thanks fo responding.
[02:18] <K-Ryan> You're welcome pulaski ;)
[02:18] <BluesKaj> hmm, got mixed feelings about that K-Ryan
[02:18] <K1765> K-Ryan: It will act like it starts the game, but then it doesnt work it.
[02:18] <K-Ryan> K1765: Have you tried #winehq ? I know they're not that helpful as a whole but there are people in there who help others.
[02:18] <pulaski> I need to locate a channel where I can find out about tuning my nfs/samba network.
[02:19] <K-Ryan> K1765: What do you mean by fixed your drivers?
[02:19] <K-Ryan> !samba
[02:19] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:19] <K-Ryan> Hrmm
[02:19] <K-Ryan> Try #samba
[02:19] <Daisuke_Ido> bring on the best MMORPG of all time...  Legend Of The Red Dragon :D
[02:19] <K-Ryan> I think that's it
[02:20] <K-Ryan> Awesome zerozero
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> zerozero: have you rebooted yet?
[02:20] <Daisuke_Ido> (new kernel and all)
[02:20] <pulaski> yes I use samba to connect my win2k side to my ubuntu file server.  I haven't had much time experiment with it once I was able to write to the drives.
[02:21] <Nivuahc> the only thing I'm left with is the sudo bit
[02:21] <zerozero> i just rebooted and I am still here so I think I am ok
[02:21] <Nivuahc> but it only took me thre days to get here, so
[02:21] <pulaski> however I us NFS to connect my kubuntu 7.04 desktop to my ubuntu 7.4 file server and it is extremely slow
[02:21] <Nivuahc> yay
[02:21] <mcrandello> did sa come back with another nick?
[02:21] <zerozero> i don't have lots of strange stuff on this box, just a basic install plus some programming stuff
[02:21] <Daisuke_Ido> not bad
[02:22] <K1765> K-Ryan: I installed the drivers.. had a lil trouble.. but believe i got them working now
[02:22] <pulaski> I use a 2wire 4 port gateway and I wonder if my problem coulb be firewall related
[02:22] <K-Ryan> K1765: Anything else crash when trying to start it up?
[02:22] <K-Ryan> Anything requiring the drivers
[02:22] <Nivuahc> Anyone: whenever I attempt to run an app that requires sudo through the menu, I get the following error: "Su returned with an error"
[02:23] <pulaski> doesn't seem to be a #nfs channel on this server
[02:23] <jamster545> i need help, QTParted wont open... if you want the konsole output tell me
[02:23] <K-Ryan> !nfs
[02:23] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[02:23] <K-Ryan> Can always try that I guess
[02:23] <pulaski> ok
[02:23] <BluesKaj> pulaski, are you port forwarding thru a router ?
[02:23] <K-Ryan> When in doubt, ask ubotu =P
[02:23] <pulaski> I used that to set it up
[02:23] <mcrandello> !irda
[02:23] <ubotu> Information about using IrDA interfaces under Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrdaHowto
[02:23] <mcrandello> hey whaddya know
[02:23] <pulaski> yes I think so though I'm not exactly sure
[02:24] <pulaski> BluesKaj
[02:24] <pulaski> thanks
[02:24] <jamster545> i need help! who can help me get QTParted to work???
[02:24] <K1765> K-Ryan: Nope, just cant load the game
[02:24] <K-Ryan> Tried a reinstall?
[02:24] <K1765> K-Ryan: God no, takes 4 hours lol
[02:24] <pulaski> I have a "gateway" aka as a 2wire 4port router
[02:24] <K1765> K-Ryan: I guess i had
[02:24] <K-Ryan> K1765: Four hours? How big is it!?
[02:25] <K1765> K-Ryan: lol its not 4 hours.. its like 30 minutes.. its 5gb+
[02:25] <K-Ryan> Oh, okay
[02:25] <K-Ryan> Well you might want to try that, I'm not particularly experienced with Wine so that's pretty much my only recommendation.
[02:26] <jamster545> i cant get QTParted to work! i pastebinned the output when i tried to use Konsole to open it. output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23188/
[02:26] <K-Ryan> jamster545: Tried Gparted?
[02:26] <jamster545> dont have it...
[02:26] <pulaski> BluesKaj, I my gateway/router can "see" both the ips of my local machines
[02:26] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:26] <BluesKaj> pulaski, 2 wire 4port ...pls explain , you have 2 pcs hooked up to router that has 4 port capability
[02:26] <BluesKaj> ?
[02:26] <K1765> K-Ryan: Thanks for the help.. =)
[02:26] <pulaski> yes exactly
[02:26] <jamster545> QTParted worked until i installed some updates which removed it but then i reinstalled it
[02:26] <K-Ryan> You're welcome K1765, good luck.
[02:26] <pulaski> Blueskaj
[02:27] <K-Ryan> jamster545: You can always try GParted, I hear it's better and it's the only thing that worked for me.
[02:27] <jamster545> hold on
[02:27] <pulaski> the 2wire 4port router/gateway also serves as a DSL modem
[02:27] <K-Ryan> I'm not forcing you, but it's an option.
[02:28] <pulaski> I can admin thru a web interface where I can specifiy apps to pass through the firewall
[02:28] <jamster545> K-Ryan: i put in the command line but when i hit enter nothing happened
[02:28] <K-Ryan> AutoMatriX: Must you do that everytime you join?
[02:28] <pulaski> on either of my computers
[02:28] <BluesKaj> so have I , but we have nop probs with FWs on the router ...just make sur the required ports for whatever apps need them are open TCP and UDP
[02:28] <BluesKaj> pulaski
[02:28] <K-Ryan> jamster545: It should of asked for your password
[02:28] <K-Ryan> sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:29] <jamster545> i think i know why it didnt work
[02:29] <pulaski> thanks BluesKaj thats helpul
[02:29] <Nivuahc> Anyone: whenever I attempt to run an app that requires sudo through the menu, I get the following error: "Su returned with an error" <-- anyone got any ideas?
[02:29] <AutoMatriX> K-Ryan: dont know, is there an anti=politeness policy on this chanel ?
[02:29] <jamster545> i just needed a fresh shell to use, K-Ryan
[02:29] <pulaski> I know nfs uses UDP
[02:29] <K-Ryan> jamster545: Ah
[02:29] <jamster545> i used the shell for something earlier and it killed the one that was open
[02:29] <K-Ryan> AutoMatriX: A greeting sure, to all the geeks? That's rather negative is it not?
[02:30] <idefixx> kde doesnt support ico, right? is there a converter or something like that?
[02:30] <pulaski> but I don't know  which port to use or how exactly I should set it up.
[02:30] <AutoMatriX> K-Ryan: I don't think a geek is something negative, but if you say so ...
[02:30] <BluesKaj> pulaski, I'm not a gamer , but i am familiar with port mapping and port forwarding due to my heavy use of torrent clients which like to use certain ports for traffic
[02:31] <jamster545> and GParted works on Kub?
[02:31] <K-Ryan> AutoMatriX: I think it has a negative connotation, personally anyway.
[02:31] <K-Ryan> jamster545: Yes
[02:31] <mcrandello> idefixx: I found something from the wine project that would convert ico's to png's but that was a loooong time ago
[02:31] <BlueBird22>  is there an easy guidance for a noob newbie to make lucent winmodem work on kubuntu ?
[02:31] <AutoMatriX> K-Ryan: ok, whenever I say hello to the geeks, I'll let you out
[02:31] <jamster545> Nivuahc: how do you do those things where it is like narrating an action? i see ppl do them all the time
[02:31] <idefixx> mcrandello: hmm, will give it a try, thx.
[02:32] <Nivuahc> jamster545: you type /me followed by the action
[02:32] <sa> hey guys, back
[02:32] <pulaski> my admin allows a bunch of named games to pass through the firewall by default BluesKaj and it will let me create custom apps to pass through the firewall.
[02:32] <jamster545> oh cool ty
[02:32] <mcrandello> idefixx: it was a native linux app. If you're already running wine I think irfanview will convert most any image format if you already have the ico's out of the executable
[02:32] <sa> just updated and installed touchpad
[02:32] <Nivuahc> jamster545: no problemo :)
[02:32] <K-Ryan> AutoMatriX: No, I understand that's not how you meant it and I don't mind, it's just it seemed like you were being a smart alec when coming into the support channel and saying that. That's how it came off to me, obviously it's not how you meant it, sorry =P
[02:33] <mcrandello> sa: working okay/
[02:33] <mcrandello> sa:I mean working okay?
[02:33] <BluesKaj> pulaski, is the FW you speak of in the gateway or are there software FWs to deal with on various pcs as well ?
[02:33] <pulaski> BluesKaj, I've thought about establishing a "pin hole" through the firewall for the nfs app but I need to know the UDP port number
[02:33] <K-Ryan> It works jamster545?
[02:33] <AutoMatriX> K-Ryan: never mind, I don't have brains enough to remind bad feelings :p
[02:33] <Nivuahc> sooooo.... enabling sudo for a user... one of lifes greatest mysteries
[02:33] <sa> mcrandello: no
[02:33] <pulaski> just on the gateway BluesKaj, thanks
[02:34] <K-Ryan> =P
[02:34] <sa> mcrandello: i am trying to configure the touchpad and it says no driver installed
[02:34] <K-Ryan> Nivuahc: It happens
[02:34] <mcrandello> sa: http://pastebin.ca/520640 here is the section for my touchpad in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:34] <pulaski> none that I'm aware of on the file server or my compter
[02:34] <bsundsrud> Nivuahc: it involves adding the user to either the sudoers group or the admin group. maybe both.
[02:34] <sa> mcrandello: ok, thank you
[02:34] <Nivuahc> bsundsrud: did that
[02:34] <BluesKaj> ok pulaski yes, knowing the UDP port #  is essential
[02:34] <idefixx> mcrandello: the gimp can open ico, too. but im actually looking for a tool that makes it into a xpm to keep the different sizes etc.
[02:34] <bsundsrud> check the /etc/sudoers file and look for any other restraints
[02:35] <Nivuahc> bsundsrud: coolio, gonna give that a shot
[02:35] <idefixx> mcrandello: also i dont want to convert it 'by hand' everytime ;)
[02:35] <bsundsrud> careful wiht it though, Nivuahc
[02:35] <mcrandello> sa: kubuntu should ship xorg with the synaptics driver and I think most laptops use /dev/psaux
[02:35] <bsundsrud> tkaebackups :D
[02:35] <bsundsrud> er take backups
[02:35] <bsundsrud> damnedable space bar...
[02:36] <mcrandello> idefixx: iirc I either had a batch process running with irfanview that would convert them to all the different sizes at the same time.
[02:36] <sa> mcrandello: where do i add the lines?
[02:36] <sa> mcrandello: sorry, I am a linux newbi
[02:36] <sa> e
[02:36] <mcrandello> sa: right above or right below whatever other mouse drivers you have in there
[02:36] <jamster545> GOD DAMMIT! none of the root apps that ask for a password other than settings will work! not even adept upgrade!
[02:37] <Nivuahc> bsundsrud: the only entry is this: root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:37] <pulaski> I have a linux/NFS HOWTO but which port numbers for UDP didn't jump out at me.  Perhaps I should look harder or BluesKaj if you know of another doc that would be helpfull\, I'd appreciate it.
[02:37] <mcrandello> jamster545: try running like "kdesu adept_updater" or whatever the command
[02:37] <idefixx> mcrandello: alright, sound good will give it a try. thx a bunch
[02:37] <mcrandello> gl!
[02:37] <Nivuahc> and, apparently, it has to be edited with the visudo command
[02:37] <jamster545> i need to get GParted to open too!
[02:38] <athena> lol
[02:38] <athena> it's a script
[02:38] <bsundsrud> Nivuahc: it doesnt, though they want you to.  visudo does syntax checking before it lets to exit.
[02:38] <xGrantx> what type of image does allegro handle natively on linux?
[02:38] <bsundsrud> visudo gives you a vi editor of the sudoers file.
[02:38] <bsundsrud> but i hate vi
[02:38] <cWolfe> vi never did anything to hurt you
[02:38] <sa> mcrandello: sorry for my stupid questions but where are the drivers?
[02:38] <mcrandello> idefixx: if you have the time and the artistic bent I'd reccomend making svg icons with inkscape using the ico's as guides :)
[02:39] <K-Ryan> jamster545: type gparted in the terminal
[02:39] <K-Ryan> Or pick it under KDE Menu > System
[02:39] <mcrandello> sa: the drivers should all pretty much come with xorg, there shouldn't be a need to install anything extra (except ATI or Nvidia video card drivers)
[02:40] <jamster545> maybe i aint logged into root...
[02:40] <bsundsrud> cWolfe: vi killed my dog.
[02:40] <jamster545> it was all like " Since GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction it may only be run in root"
[02:40] <BluesKaj> pulaski, it's quite straightforward i think , if you can a get a manual for your router/gateway IP addy or address text , like my network or something , then it's quite simple to navigate to the port mapping page to set the ports.
[02:41] <jamster545> i need to log off for a minute so dont go anywhere!
[02:41] <sa> mcrandello: I am a bit lost, sorry!
[02:41] <mcrandello> jamster545: try sudo -i
[02:41] <idefixx> mcrandello: yeah i figured that.. why doesnt kde support ico files, why would i want layer less files to store icons?
[02:41] <pulaski> yes I have a manual for my gateway
[02:41] <Nivuahc> bsundsrud: thanks, that did the trick!
[02:41] <pulaski> I have the IPs
[02:41] <bsundsrud> Nivuahc: what did the trick?
[02:42] <bsundsrud> haha
[02:42] <idefixx> mcrandello: rhetorical question btw ;)
[02:42] <BluesKaj> what is your router pulaski
[02:42] <pulaski> I have a portmapper on the server
[02:42] <BluesKaj> ?
[02:42] <mcrandello> idefixx: that I don't have an answer to. Perhaps there is a patent or copyright issue putting ico support in ;P
[02:42] <bsundsrud> im oblivious help man! I'll help without realizing it!
[02:42] <Nivuahc> bsundsrud: I edited /etc/sudoers and edded an entry for moi
[02:42] <bsundsrud> ok
[02:42] <Nivuahc> and erry-ting is a-okay
[02:42] <pulaski> its called a 2wire 4port router model #1701HG Gateway BluesKaj
[02:43] <pulaski> it has a web admin interface
[02:43] <mcrandello> sa: basically that little snippet of code should go into your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. the "synaptic" driver it's asking for should already be there, ready to use I beleive
[02:43] <BluesKaj> cool pulaski , as long as you can access it ... being at home i don't bother with a pw cuz wifey leaves that stuff to me
[02:43] <pulaski> pw?
[02:43] <BluesKaj> password
[02:43] <pulaski> ok
[02:43] <sa> mcrandello: ok, that is what I needed to know. Where the code should be added
[02:44] <soulrider_> lol, i was repairing a windows computer
[02:44] <soulrider_> and windows update would make windows crash
[02:44] <idefixx> mcrandello: i know at least 2 other foss tools that support icons, but not that many if you think about it. i'll have to read up on that.
[02:44] <Minataku> I have a password on all my machines
[02:44] <mcrandello> sa: try typing "kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" from a konsole window or click the k menu then select "run command" and type it
[02:44] <sa> mcrandello: ok
[02:44] <Minataku> Well, all the ones that'll take a password
[02:45] <pulaski> ok Bluekaj, between the gateway manual and the Linux/NFS HOWTO I should be able to solve my problem.  Thanks alot for your help BlueKaj..
[02:45] <sa> mcrandello: hmmm
[02:45] <sa> mcrandello: it is empty
[02:45] <mcrandello> idefixx: I remember I used a couple of dodgy shareware type apps in wine a while back to rip every single ico in my wine inst. Then I zipped them and emailed them to myself so I wouldn't lose them ever
[02:45] <Minataku> Say
[02:45] <Minataku> Does Windows still have MORICONS.DLL ?
[02:46] <mcrandello> sa: that definitely should not be empty
[02:46] <sa> i got a message saying error something
[02:46] <athena> Minataku, yes
[02:46] <mcrandello> sa: open a konsole, type kate /etc/X and then hit <tab> on the kb
[02:46] <athena> slocate MORICONS.DLL: /windows/WINDOWS/system32/moricons.dll
[02:46] <droach> Has anyone tried that stupid "Tweak Ubuntu for speed" guide
[02:46] <Minataku> Heehee
[02:47] <Minataku> I remember that from back in Windows 3.1
[02:47] <BlueBird22>  is there an easy guidance for a noob newbie to make lucent winmodem work on kubuntu ?
[02:47] <sa> mcrandello: ok
[02:47] <mcrandello> really though ico's are a horrible horrible image format that look like barbequed ass on a modern system
[02:47] <Minataku> !winmodem
[02:47] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[02:47] <Minataku> No, I don't, I want to know about winmodems
[02:47] <Minataku> THAT'S WHY I TYPED THAT
[02:47] <mcrandello> sa: it should "reccomend" something or complete to /etc/X11
[02:47] <Minataku> BlueBird22: If you're lucky, that'll help you
[02:47] <BlueBird22> Minataku i need an easy way.
[02:48] <zerozero> one could argue that winmodems never really did work
[02:48] <Minataku> If you're not, then sorry
[02:48] <idefixx> mcrandello: i know cedega can grab and store icons from exe files - but only from inside its ui, no command tool. also i dont know how its stores them.
[02:48] <sa> mcrandello: i have xdg and xml to chose from
[02:48] <sa> mcrandello: no xll
[02:48] <mcrandello> sa: capitol X
[02:48] <Jamster545> K-Ryan, i couldnt find my root account
[02:48] <mcrandello> rule one in unix-linux. CaPs CouNt
[02:49] <droach> anyone know any programming channels?
[02:49] <Minataku> ecks-one-one
[02:49] <Minataku> X11
[02:49] <Jamster545> i think i am on it
[02:49] <Minataku> Jamster545: Is your username "jamie" ?
[02:49] <sa> mcrandello: hahaha, that was the problem...so sorry
[02:49] <mcrandello> np :) we are all learners
[02:50] <mcrandello> once you get into the xorg.conf file be very careful, one wrong letter can ruin your day.
[02:50] <K-Ryan> Jamie Schnaitter?
[02:51] <mcrandello> sa: probably should also let you know the command should be "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" you can just copy/paste that from here and it should work
[02:51] <mcrandello> if that doesn't work it's "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[02:51] <sa> mcrandello: ok
[02:52] <sa> mcrandello: I as able to open the file by writing only kate
[02:52] <mcrandello> need to use sudo or kdesu then
[02:52] <mcrandello> sa: once you're in, look for the line "Configured Mouse" or something like that
[02:52] <sa> mcrandello ok
[02:53] <mcrandello> right after that section, below the line "EndSection" is where you paste that snippet
[02:53] <mcrandello> it's like html where everything has an opening and closing tag
[02:54] <K1765> I try to install the driver, I do sudo sh etc.. and it loads.. it gets to the kernel source tree to install
[02:54] <mcrandello> but before you make any changes I'd also reccomend saving it as /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup
[02:54] <K1765> and it says needs kernel source tree to install**
[02:54] <mcrandello> always back up important files even if you know exactly what you're doing
[02:55] <K1765> where can i get kernel source tree files >.>
[02:55] <mcrandello> K1765: sudo apt-get install linux-source
[02:55] <K1765> tys
[02:55] <DRaGo> darn middle mouse button keeps changing my nick
[02:56] <K1765> mcrandello: and thats all i have to do right?
[02:56] <sa> mcrandello: found the configured mouse
[02:56] <sa> it is within one section
[02:56] <mcrandello> K1765: should be. you might also need to sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:56] <K1765> Got that already. Thanks!!
[02:57] <mcrandello> sa: right after that EndSection start looking for something like what's in that pastebin page
[02:57] <mcrandello> just to make sure it isn't already in there. If it is then pasting it again probably won't help
[02:59] <sa> Mcrandello: found it. it looks exactly the same
[02:59] <K-Ryan> Huh? What?
[03:00] <K1765> Now it says: please install kernel source files
[03:00] <jamster545> i was here a minute ago, got D/C'd and stuff but before D/C you were like not responding to talk or pinging
[03:00] <sa> mcrandello: i restarted x after installing. Maybe I need to restart the whole computer?
[03:00] <kerberos> que ondas
[03:00] <K-Ryan> jamster545: I don't think your messages got through then, because I didn't get anything,.
[03:00] <mcrandello> sa: you should just be able to restart X and it should work
[03:01] <sa> mcrandello: hmm...let me try again...brb
[03:01] <kerberos> alguien sabe como instalar ndiswapper
[03:01] <xGrantx> uh, are there known problems with the allegro keyboard input and linux? it doesn't seem to be working for me
[03:01] <kerberos> me marca error
[03:01] <K1765> mcrandello: Now it says please install kernel source files
[03:01] <DRaGo> how do i take my ip address of of the hostmask
[03:02] <jamster545> i couldnt get gparted to run in KDE or Konsole... what should i do... it said i need to be logged into root the exact wording was: " SInce GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction, you must be logged in a s root to use it
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Did it really say that?
[03:02] <K-Ryan> That's great
[03:02] <K-Ryan> Try kdesu gparted
[03:02] <jamster545> i know
[03:02] <jamster545> wtf?
[03:02] <mcrandello> K1765: try running uname -r
[03:02] <K-Ryan> kdesu is the command to run things as root
[03:02] <jamster545> u mean in console ok
[03:02] <kerberos> anybody help me?
[03:03] <K-Ryan> kdesu for graphical programs, sudo for terminal related stuff
[03:03] <K-Ryan> Yes jamster545
[03:03] <K1765> mcrandello: sudo uname -r?
[03:03] <mcrandello> K1765: actually just "uname -r"
[03:03] <mcrandello> K1765: then apt-cache search linux-headers
[03:03] <K1765> 2.6.20-16-386
[03:03] <jamster545> it didnt work...
[03:04] <jamster545> do you want the output?
[03:04] <K1765> ok.. now.. should i retry?
[03:04] <K-Ryan> Hrmm, and it's not in System under KDE Menu?
[03:04] <mcrandello> alright then "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.20-16-386 "
[03:04] <mcrandello> maybe that will make it happy
[03:04] <kerberos> i cant install ndiswrapper
[03:04] <K1765> Hope so, this is pain ahha
[03:04] <jamster545> it is but when i tried to use it from there it wouldnt do anything after i entered mypassword
[03:04] <K1765> ok.. im going to retry. brb.
[03:04] <K-Ryan> Try again
[03:04] <K-Ryan> Make sure the password is correct
[03:05] <jamster545> still nothing
[03:05] <jamster545> hold on
[03:05] <jamster545> do you want the output from the one time?
[03:05] <sa> mcrandello: it worked but I had to restart the whole system
[03:05] <mcrandello> oh
[03:05] <sa> mcrandello: x was not enough
[03:05] <mcrandello> interesting
[03:06] <sa> mcrandello: thanx for the help!
[03:06] <mcrandello> np glad it worked
[03:06] <sa> mcrandello: one last question: what is the difference between ATI and NVIDIA video cards?
[03:06] <jamster545> do you want the konsole output from when i tried kdesu?
[03:07] <sa> mcrandello: and how do I know that my video card is working properly
[03:07] <mcrandello> ATI = a world of pain if you run linux, NVIDIA not so much
[03:07] <K1765> ok....... that worked, until it starting installing kernel modules then it said error lol
[03:07] <sa> mcrandello: i dont know what card I have, I think it is an ATI hehe
[03:08] <dregorth> mcrandello: and i thought it was the reverse just from seeing so many posts about that stuff in forums :P
[03:08] <K1765> mcrandello: It says now ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module.
[03:08] <jamster545> OOH! i made it work!
[03:08] <K1765> mcrandello: Other than that.. it was working.
[03:08] <jamster545> shoots*
[03:08] <K1765> off*
[03:08] <mcrandello> K1765: well you're a little farther
[03:08] <K-Ryan> Sorry again
[03:09] <K-Ryan> I had to go afk for a minute there
[03:09] <jamster545> i fixed it
[03:09] <mcrandello> !ati
[03:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:09] <K1765> mcrandello: How do I delete the current kernel module i have installed?
[03:09] <jamster545> i typed in sudo gparted
[03:09] <jamster545> and it worked
[03:09] <K-Ryan> sudo eh?
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Is it running in the terminal?
[03:09] <jamster545> yep then it opened a graphical instance
[03:09] <jamster545> hold on
[03:09] <mcrandello> K1765: is this one you installed from NVIDIA, or one that came with kubuntu?
[03:09] <jamster545> i typed it in and it loaded the files then opened a graphical window
[03:09] <K-Ryan> Strange, kdesu is meant for graphical apps
[03:10] <K-Ryan> But if it works, good
[03:10] <jamster545> well it was running in terminal then it opened a graphical window
[03:10] <K1765> mcrandello: NVIDIA, i believe.. I installed version 9755 first, now im trying to install version 8774
[03:10] <K-Ryan> Can you do what you need to do with it?
[03:10] <sa> !ati
[03:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:10] <jamster545> probably... havent tried
[03:10] <K-Ryan> Try =P
[03:10] <jamster545> AFK
[03:10] <mcrandello> K1765: I'm hesitant to give this advice, but what I wind up doing every time I install new drivers for my ati or a new kernel is this...
[03:10] <mcrandello> first switch to /lib/modules
[03:11] <mcrandello> then find .|grep fglrx
[03:11] <sa> mcrandello: thanks alot! going to bed now. it is 3 in the morning where i am  :)
[03:11] <sa> good night everyone!
[03:11] <mcrandello> sa np gl!
[03:11] <K-Ryan> G'night sa
[03:11] <mcrandello> K1765: you'll need to substitute the name of your video modules instead of fglrx
[03:11] <K-Ryan> jamster545: You really like /me don't you?
[03:11] <jamster545> maybe
[03:11] <mcrandello> then I sudo rm them one by one, then install the new ones
[03:12] <klobster> my new favorite error message:   "the
[03:12] <klobster> The program 'fglrxinfo' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[03:12] <klobster> sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:12] <K-Ryan> I don't get it
[03:12] <K-Ryan> I think I get it
[03:12] <mcrandello> note that this is dangerous and probably not reccomended
[03:12] <klobster> oops sorry I meant
[03:13] <klobster> The program 'apt-get' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[03:13] <klobster> sudo apt-get install apt
[03:13] <K-Ryan> Hahahahahahaha
[03:13] <K1765> mcrandello: in konsole?? goto /lib/modules?? i dont see a .|grep fglrx
[03:13] <K-Ryan> That's not real is it?
[03:13] <mcrandello> K1765: that's part of the command
[03:13] <K-Ryan> What did I do? I said kdesu it
[03:13] <mcrandello> find . will find everything in that directory and all subdirs
[03:13] <jamster545> it wont let me resize or change my partitions
[03:13] <miguel> hi everyone...I need some help configuring my sound card. it's not detected
[03:13] <K-Ryan> That's because they're mounted...
[03:13] <mtv> i am having issues with audio.  I am running dapper with Intel ICH5 audio card
[03:14] <jamster545> when i try to unmount them it says it cant
[03:14] <klobster> I got the error msg, it was because of a bad fstab config, but I did get the error.
[03:14] <savetheWorld> !wiki
[03:14] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu development documentation wiki. If you are looking for system help, please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community - the Ubuntu community documentation.
[03:14] <mcrandello> "find .|grep poo" will find everything but only display the items that have "poo" in the name or path
[03:14] <K-Ryan> klobster: That's like "No keyboard was detected, press any key to continue"
[03:14] <jamster545> lmao
[03:14] <K-Ryan> jamster545: What drive is it?
[03:14] <mcrandello> fatal error: success!
[03:14] <K-Ryan> Heheh
[03:14] <K1765> mcrandello: so whats the command.. lol im a complete kubuntu noob
[03:15] <jamster545> i only have one! it was like dev/sda
[03:15] <mcrandello> in /lib/modules you type "find .|grep whateverthenameofyourdriverhere"
[03:15] <jamster545> During setup the mouse cant be used, click here to continue
[03:16] <K-Ryan> jamster545: Use the drop down box on the top right to switch HDDs
[03:16] <K-Ryan> jamster545: That one makes sense believe it or not.
[03:16] <jamster545> it shows the right hard drive and partitions1 i only have one HDD anyway
[03:16] <K-Ryan> Okay
[03:16] <jamster545> no mouse connected, click to continue
[03:16] <K1765> mcrandello: now what
[03:16] <K-Ryan> There you go =P
[03:17] <K-Ryan> Okay, if you're trying to resize something important and can't unmount it because it's so important you'll have to do it from a LiveCD
[03:17] <jamster545> no internet connection detected! connected to IRC
[03:17] <jamster545> oh!
[03:17] <mcrandello> K1765: I'll reccomend the safe way: "sudo mv /path/to/driver/drivername /tmp" for each version of the nvidia driver you have
[03:18] <K-Ryan> Don't get me started with Windows-bashing-Linux-quotes
[03:18] <K-Ryan> Err
[03:18] <jamster545> do it do it!
[03:18] <mcrandello> maybe write down where they came from in case the system goes pear shaped
[03:18] <K-Ryan> Linux-bashing-Windows-quotes
[03:18] <jamster545> i hear somebody's car alarm going off
[03:18] <K1765> mcrandello: now only if i knew where NVIDIA installed my drivers lol
[03:19] <mcrandello> K1765: I'd try getting the new ones installed first,then if it's still using the old ones worry about removing them
[03:19] <Tired_> where would one look to see if a particular piece of hardware s compatible with Kubuntu?
[03:19] <mcrandello> linux is usually better about old drivers laying around than windows is
[03:20] <mcrandello> Tired_: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/
[03:20] <Tired_> isn't tldp horrifically out o date?
[03:20] <mcrandello> maybe
[03:20] <carutsu_> mcrandello: agreed while windows will hardly work with older hardware, linux most likelly handle it
[03:21] <mcrandello> what hardware you worried about?
[03:21] <mcrandello> it *is* copyrighted through 2007 so someone at least touched the page
[03:21] <Tired_> it's a Hauppage ATSC tv tuner card...the HVR-1600
[03:22] <DrX> how do I see which files contain a specific string?
[03:22] <bsundsrud> fgrep
[03:22] <K-Ryan> !wine > jamster545
[03:22] <mrobin> hola todos
[03:23] <bsundsrud> guten abend
[03:23] <stanley> hi guys...i have a pretty big prob
[03:24] <DrX> bsundsrud: so fgrep -R -F ":/dev/cdrom" / will list all files on the root partition that contain the quoted string literal?
[03:24] <mtv> what is the best method for upgrading to 7.04 from 6.06
[03:24] <rolnyzx> DrX, grep
[03:24] <stanley> anything i try to open that needs root access says: "su has returned an error"
[03:24] <stanley> what could this be??
[03:24] <DrX> rolnyzx: grep just sez there's a match, but won't tell me which files match (stupid grep)
[03:24] <mcrandello> Tired_: signs point to no http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2733804
[03:24] <rolnyzx> DrX, flags
[03:25] <Tired_> Hmm.  Well, that saves me $100.  Thanks.
[03:25] <bsundsrud> DrX: i did fgrep 'somethingtosearchfor' -R <files> and it worked.
[03:26] <joedoc55> stanley: did you set a root password?
[03:26] <bsundsrud> DrX:  if you search /, that will search every file currently mounted
[03:26] <mcrandello> stanley: are you running it like "su command"? try "sudo command" or "sudo -i" then run the command from the root prompt
[03:26] <rolnyzx> grep -l string *
[03:27] <mcrandello> stanley: or "kdesu command" if it's a kde program
[03:27] <bsundsrud> DrX: and when using fgrep, the -F is implied
[03:28] <mcrandello> anyone on here good with irda dongles?
[03:28] <rolnyzx> grep -l string * , gives you filenames that contain the match
[03:28] <DrX> bsundsrud: what did you put for <files>?
[03:29] <bsundsrud> DrX: I was in ~ and did *
[03:29] <bsundsrud> but you can do / if you really want to
[03:30] <DrX> I did * in ~ and it showed nothing but I just pulled the text from a file in /etc/...
[03:30] <mcrandello> gnight all
[03:30] <DrX> bsundsrud: how do i specify search all subdirectories?
[03:31] <bsundsrud> the -R does it recursively
[03:31] <DrX> bsundsrud: but it didn't find the file i just copied and pasted the text from on the / device
[03:31] <bsundsrud> hmm
[03:32] <K1765> Anyone know why I get Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module. when i try to install driver
[03:36] <K1765> NVIDIA.. always has to make this confusing.. and things that are a pain in the arse.. lol
[03:37] <sparr> ktorrent only uploads while I am downloading, and then only a little.  what could cause that?
[03:38] <K1765> I think everyone died
[03:39] <trakinas> hey
[03:39] <dsmith_> why do shell script icons remain blank?
[03:40] <K1765> how do i run a .bin
[03:40] <trakinas> my dvd pioneer isnt working properly... i tested on my mate's computer and it worked alone on the 2nd IDE with Cable Select, like it is now... but, it isnt work here in my computer. KDE Center says it is a CD-ROM drive (and in scsi...). It used to work on gentoo without any trouble - and it wasnt accessed through scsi.
[03:41] <trakinas> K1765: check if it has executable properties.
[03:41] <K1765> trakinas: yes it does, so how do I run it lol
[03:41] <trakinas> K1765: then ./name-of-the-app on the terminal. dont remember how to run out of the terminal
[03:42] <trakinas> *working.
[03:42] <rolnyzx> trakinas, weren't you the one who told me this morning his DVD drive wasn't the problem when receiving an IO error on mount?
[03:43] <trakinas> rolnyzx: no.. i did told you about the IO, but i didnt say it wasnt the problem.
[03:43] <rick_> ok I'm tired of googling and going through menu options.. I have an external task bar at the bottom and the main bar up top, how do i get my bottom external task bar to be only 1 menu item high? (right now it's double)
[03:43] <trakinas> curiously, his pc has windows only. it didnt work before i changed it to cable select.
[03:44] <rick_> i shrunk the size of the main bar which makes it only 1 level high for the main bar.. but it doesn't seem to apply to the external task bar
[03:44] <K1765> How do I run a .bin in terminal?
[03:44] <trakinas> K1765: one sec. Im not registered, cant reply u on pvt
[03:44] <rick_> K1 try ./nameoffile.bin
[03:45] <trakinas> rick_: he has troubles with permission
[03:45] <rolnyzx> trakinas, do you have any live cd distro?
[03:45] <K1765> bash: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: Permission denied
[03:45] <K1765> bash: bash:: command not found
[03:45] <trakinas> K1765: ls -hl file.bin
[03:45] <K1765> kk
[03:45] <rolnyzx> well of course, it's not gonna load
[03:45] <trakinas> rolnyzx: (k)ubuntu, Kurumin and gentoo.
[03:46] <trakinas> but Kurumin and (k)Ubuntu will mount it on scsi, since they are debian based, right?
[03:46] <rick_> oh ok then first chmod 755 file name
[03:47] <trakinas> K1765: you dont have permission to execute the file.
[03:47] <K1765> michael@homepc:~$ ls -hl ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[03:47] <K1765> -rwxrwxrwx 1 michael michael 5.6M 2007-05-29 21:40 ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[03:47] <trakinas> now you should be able to run... lol
[03:48] <trakinas> rolnyzx: so... you asked me if i have a live distro. so??
[03:48] <rick_> man this shouldn't be this difficult to figure out how to cahnge the height of this external task bar
[03:49] <rolnyzx> I was going to tell you to load the distro to see if it detects the DVD. But I guess it won't even load
[03:49] <skunk> hey got a question maybe you guys could help me with. no matter what i try, i cant get my ntfs partition to mount where users can access via konqueror. keeps saying they dont have permissions even when i add that user into the root group
[03:49] <trakinas> rolnyzx: good idea! i will try to boot one.
[03:50] <trakinas> rolnyzx: on the other tests, i tried booting through cd-rom and opening the dvd-rom
[03:50] <K1765> It says: Could not find an approptriate hxplay or realplay in the system path to use as an embedded player
[03:50] <trakinas> (2 drives, ofcourse. =P )
[03:50] <K1765> How can I change that?
[03:50] <trakinas> K1765: you should have helixplayer installed... that's why i always try mplayer real-mode. heheheh
[03:51] <K1765> sudo apt-get install helixplayer?
[03:51] <trakinas> K1765: i cannot help you since i never used real player gold in linux.
[03:51] <trakinas> in fact, not even in windows... always used alternatives... =P
[03:51] <rick_> wow i figured it out.. but that is definitely misleading.
[03:51] <K1765> well how do i get mplayer
[03:51] <trakinas> brb
[03:52] <trakinas> K1765: like any other apps. but Im not sure if it will come with quicktime and real as default.
[03:52] <intelikey> rick_ i just got here. may i ask what it was that was misleading?
[03:52] <trakinas> brb (for real...)
[03:52] <rick_> for those who care... if you shrink the main bar first then go 'add external bar' it ends up still double... but then if you go in and change the settings of the font size it works..
[03:53] <rick_> the odd part is you might have your main font setting just how you want it..
[03:53] <rick_> but you then have to mess with it just to get the external task bar size correct
[03:53] <rick_> that seems like a bug to me.
[03:53] <intelikey> oh kicker dubblets...   yes many have complained about that.
[03:54] <rick_> oh so they are aware of it.. that's good
[03:54] <Jucato> double? dubblets? O.o
[03:54] <rick_> you should be able to adjust them indempendently
[03:54] <intelikey> rick_ yes i expect changes in the next release.
[03:54] <rick_> cool thanks for the update intelikey
[03:55] <Jucato> rick_: you added another panel (external taskbar), but modifying the size only affects the main panel?
[03:56] <dsmith_> seems fiesty is running nicely, even installed the nvidia drivers with automatix2
[03:56] <rick_> Jucato:  the steps were: I adjust main panel how i like it. (set tiny to size of icons). I then remove the task bar from main panel. Do add new external task bar and move it to bottom. the bottom one will now be double.
[03:56] <rick_> Jucato: the fix is to then mess with the settings again on the main bar.
[03:58] <trakinas> a big hello from kubuntu live-cd booted from my DVD-R drive.
[03:58] <trakinas> which makes things more even bizzare
[03:58] <Jucato> rick_: or: add external taskbar, restart kicker (the panel) with the command "dcop kicker kicker restart". right-click on the external taskbar -> Configure External Taskbar -> go to the Arrangement options, select External taskbar from the dropdown list at the top. then adjust the size
[03:59] <intelikey> or use blackbox   :)
[04:00] <Jucato> or just a plain Panel and add a Taskbar applet to it...
[04:00] <Jucato> or...
[04:00] <intelikey> or...
[04:00] <trakinas> folks, this is really strange... why cant I copy a file from a dvd-r media but it does open the media and does boot kubutu?
[04:00] <intelikey> and you can...
[04:01] <intelikey> trakinas copy to where ?
[04:01] <jarn> How do I make it so NTFS partitions are mounted readable?
[04:01] <jarn> Currently I have to sudo cd into them.
[04:01] <trakinas> intelikey: from the drive to the hdd
[04:01] <intelikey> trakinas copy to where ?
[04:01] <trakinas> intelikey: my home folder
[04:02] <intelikey> jarn mount -o ro,umask=000
[04:02] <jarn> intelikey: Is there any way to make it so fstab does that?
[04:02] <intelikey> jarn yes.   add those option
[04:02] <palmdev13> on-subject question: say you accidentally deleted fstab. is there an easy way to rebuild it?
[04:03] <trakinas> jarn configure it like anyother fstab entry.
[04:03] <rick_> ok thanks Jucato
[04:03] <jarn> trakinas: That doesn't work.
[04:03] <intelikey> trakinas you or should i say "ubuntu" doesn't have permission to write to /media/hdd/home/<username>/   and shouldn't have.
[04:03] <jarn> intelikey: Thanks! That worked great!
[04:04] <trakinas> jarn: what does not work? configuring NTFS partition with its properties like you do any thing on fstab?
[04:04] <jarn> trakinas: If you set the same options for an NTFS partition that you would for any other partition.
[04:05] <intelikey> gentilemen.  fs   not partition.
[04:06] <intelikey> partition type is totally irrelevent.  fs (file system) type ie the thing in question.
[04:06] <intelikey> call me pedantic but it does matter.
[04:06] <trakinas> intelikey: i beg your pardon. i meant ntfs filesystem. ?P
[04:06] <trakinas> one sec. i will reboot and paste the output error here. brb
[04:07] <rick_> also i guess this is a small gripe but shouldn't there be just a custom menu related to "just the external task bar" when i go and select "configure external task bar"
[04:08] <rick_> Jucato: i restarted it and it's still not really behaving that great.. it will accept tiny on the main bar but not ont he external task bar
[04:08] <intelikey> rick_ no not really.  you are configuring kicker.  whether the main bar or additional bars it's still one app.
[04:08] <jarn> intelikey: Uh, it's not like people are saying that their partition is of type NTFS.
[04:09] <jarn> intelikey: That's like saying that "mp3 player" is wrong because it's a player that plays mp3s.
[04:09] <Jucato> rick_: are you sure you selected External Taskbar from the drop down list at the top?
[04:09] <kalorin> jarn, my mp3 player is wrong!
[04:09] <jarn> kalorin: That's a shame. :P
[04:09] <Jucato> rick_: in the Settings for: option
[04:09] <intelikey> well i don't have an mp3 player...
[04:10] <rick_> yes
[04:10] <rick_> i selected new external task bar
[04:10] <kalorin> it's an ipod nano
[04:10] <Jucato> strange.. it works here
[04:10] <kalorin> actually it's pretty nice
[04:10] <rick_> and when i right click on it, i have the option "configure external taskbar"
[04:10] <intelikey> ok timmy what ya got ?
[04:12] <Jucato> rick_: yes. then go to the Arrangement page of the dialog box
[04:12] <trakinas> intelikey: says it wasnt possible to *read* the file
[04:12] <rick_> HA thanks
[04:12] <rick_> sheesh
[04:12] <intelikey> trakinas pastebin the output of   mount
[04:12] <rick_> i'm an idiot
[04:12] <rick_> i never even saw that dropdown!
[04:12] <Jucato> :)
[04:12] <rick_> man that was drivign me nuts
[04:13] <rick_> sorry i'm sure they were good
[04:13] <rick_> have my wife harrassing me in the background about the house
[04:13] <Jucato> heh :)
[04:13] <Minataku> It's ALWAYS the wife's fault :P
[04:13] <kalorin`> no
[04:13] <rick_> yea:)
[04:13] <intelikey> "if you make it idiot proof, they'll just make a better idiot"
[04:13] <crimsun> unless you're the wife, and then it's always your husband's fault.
[04:13] <kalorin`> it's always the husbands fault
[04:13] <kalorin`> just ask them
[04:14] <intelikey> crimsun yeah that.
[04:14] <trakinas> intelikey: output in portuguese??? rofl
[04:14] <trakinas> i mean, everything is in portuguese here. i guess it does not help to you, does it?
[04:14] <rick_> i'm trying to get her to switch to ubuntu.. she keeps complaining about her windows computer... she'd switch but she's really comfortable with photoshop elements
[04:15] <intelikey> well how about.    LC-ALL=C mount
[04:15] <rick_> she'll be overwhelmed with the gimp
[04:15] <trakinas> intelikey: good one!
[04:15] <intelikey> ooops   LC_ALL mount     my bad.
[04:16] <intelikey> hehe still bad aint it.
[04:16] <intelikey> ooops   LC_ALL=C mount     my bad.
[04:16] <trakinas> mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:16] <intelikey> any way  the cotton picken dash is an underscore
[04:16] <trakinas> intelikey: no problem.
[04:17] <intelikey> trakinas not mount blah      just plain mount
[04:17] <intelikey>  LC_ALL=C mount
[04:17] <trakinas> ah! sorry!!
[04:17] <intelikey> so i can see how it mounted.
[04:17] <trakinas>  /dev/scd0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro)
[04:17] <intelikey> ok nothing that should object to users reading that....  hmmmm.
[04:18] <intelikey> and if you    ls /media/cdrom0             it lists files/dirs
[04:18] <intelikey> ?
[04:18] <trakinas> intelikey: when KDE auto-mounts it: /dev/scd0 on /media/disk type iso9660 (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,noatime,uid=1000,utf8)
[04:19] <trakinas> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 849M 2007-05-28 17:07 /media/cdrom0/entrevista.avi
[04:19] <intelikey> ok nothing in the perms that would keep you from reading it
[04:19] <intelikey> echo $UID
[04:20] <trakinas> 1000
[04:20] <intelikey> well that consistant....   hmmmm.
[04:21] <intelikey> and    ls /media/disk       you can't read ?
[04:21] <trakinas> weird -> cp: cannot create regular file `/home/timmy/entrevistaavi': Permission denied
[04:21] <intelikey> there's your problem.  not reading the disk   but writing to your home.
[04:21] <trakinas> intelikey: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 890110004 2007-05-28 17:07
[04:22] <trakinas> intelikey: yep. but look...
[04:22] <trakinas> i can create a file on vi...
[04:22] <intelikey> and ?
[04:22] <intelikey> you need write permission
[04:22] <trakinas> i can... no permission denied...
[04:22] <trakinas> i meant...
[04:23] <intelikey> sudo chmod 755 ~/
[04:23] <trakinas> timmy@wintermute:~$ vi test.txt does not give any wrong msg
[04:24] <intelikey> ok then lets look a little closer at the error.    ls -l /home/timmy/entrevistaavi
[04:24] <trakinas> -r-xr-xr-x 1 timmy timmy 65536 2007-05-29 23:12 entrevista.avi
[04:25] <intelikey> can't write that
[04:25] <intelikey> no write perms.
[04:25] <intelikey> read/exec   but no write
[04:25] <trakinas> but this is the file copied from the dvd-r...
[04:25] <intelikey> chmod 644 /home/timmy/entrevistaavi
[04:26] <intelikey> chmod 644 /home/timmy/entrevista.avi
[04:26] <intelikey> as case may be.
[04:26] <trakinas> intelikey: done... now?
[04:26] <intelikey> now you have write permission there.
[04:27] <trakinas> intelikey: wow!!! cp: reading `/media/cdrom0/timmy.avi': Input/output error
[04:28] <intelikey> is it still mounted there or did you remount it on /media/disk     seems like you mentioned that.
[04:29] <trakinas> intelikey: unmounted... for sure!
[04:29] <intelikey> wb Jucato
[04:30] <trakinas> same thing! i will pastebin it. one sec...
[04:30] <Jucato> thanks
[04:31] <AmyRose> Why is my hard drive /dev/hda again after the last kernel update?
[04:33] <trakinas> intelikey: http://pastebin.ca/520996
[04:33] <intelikey> trakinas also as per you statement "but this is the file copied from the dvd-r"  cp will default to using the umask set for your account   but there are switches that cause cp to "preserve ownership/attrabutes"  which is undesireable when copying from cd drives in most cases.
[04:34] <trakinas> intelikey: hmmmm... so, how should I copy it? I mean, any special flag?
[04:35] <trakinas> gosh! just now i noticed we are in freenode. :P
[04:36] <intelikey> `/home/timmy/timmy.avi': Permissao negada  <<<< same problemo as per other file.  no?     same solution.   chmod 644
[04:36] <trakinas> on the drive?
[04:38] <intelikey> trakinas cp also has switch. " -f, --force "    you can use in such cases.
[04:38] <intelikey> trakinas man cp     for details
[04:38] <trakinas> ok!
[04:39] <intelikey> any other issues for the moment ?    if not i'll be idleing about.   but busy.
[04:42] <intelikey> trakinas one other note.   FFR & FYI  dirs. have to be executed.  if you do something like   chmod 644 ~/*   you must chmod to 755 or some other executable value the dirs or you can't cd into them nor use anything in their sub-dirs.
[04:42] <Minataku> Yeah
[04:43] <intelikey> just thought you might want to know, before you broke something and wondered why.
[04:43] <Minataku> Directories must have execute permission to be traveresd into
[04:43] <Minataku> *traversed
[04:43] <trakinas> intelikey: is there any ls command to check directories permitions?
[04:43] <Minataku> ls -la
[04:43] <Minataku> Well, ls -l
[04:43] <Minataku> Sorry, habit X3
[04:43] <intelikey> ls -ld
[04:43] <trakinas> dub! heheehe
[04:44] <intelikey> the -d switch shows the dir   without it you get the content there of.
[04:45] <trakinas> 755 is: read write execute and read write, yes?
[04:45] <intelikey> example.   ls -l ~/Desktop      then  ls -ld ~/Desktop
[04:45] <trakinas> intelikey: yep! but is so obvious to use -d... heheheh.
[04:46] <trakinas> yep1 ive just never used ls for dirs, only files. ;] 
[04:46] <intelikey> numeric binarry perms.     111 = 7   read,write,exec
[04:46] <jarn> What are good web browsers other than Konqueror and Firefox? Both of them give me problems.
[04:46] <trakinas> yep... i juts never now it values...
[04:47] <trakinas> like, chmod 777 are the sum of the values for right, read and execute.
[04:47] <kalorin`> jarn
[04:47] <kalorin`> use IE
[04:47] <Minataku> Read, Write, Execute
[04:47] <intelikey> first octet is owner   second is group   third is other    755 = 111,101,101 = rwx,r-x,r-x
[04:47] <Minataku> 4, 2, 1
[04:47] <kalorin`> <--- though I personally do not
[04:47] <jarn> kalorin`: Ehh... I'd rather not, thanks. :P
[04:47] <trakinas> when i list files or dir, it shows rwx, no numbers.
[04:47] <Minataku> It's binary weight
[04:47] <kalorin`> you can use IE under linux
[04:47] <trakinas> Minataku: thanks
[04:47] <Minataku> np
[04:48] <kalorin`> there's an IE for linux version out
[04:48] <kalorin`> !ie
[04:48] <ubotu> For Irish whiskey and ubuntu support, visit #ubuntu-ie, Ta an uisce beatha agus cuidi Ubuntu ar #ubuntu-ie, Bag filte ort
[04:48] <trakinas> jarn: Opera
[04:48] <Minataku> r has a weight of 4, w has a weight of 2, x has a weight of 1
[04:48] <jarn> kalorin`: I know you can. That doesn't mean I want to use it.
[04:48] <intelikey> there are  10 kinds of people in the world.     those that understand binarry and those that dont.
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> jarn: there's always vanilla mozilla (aka seamonkey)
[04:49] <trakinas> most dirs are 761..
[04:49] <trakinas> ops
[04:49] <intelikey> not likely
[04:49] <trakinas> my mistake
[04:49] <trakinas> 755
[04:50] <intelikey> yep
[04:50] <trakinas> rwxr-xr-x
[04:50] <intelikey> you got it.
[04:50] <jarn> hitmanWilly: I'll take a look at that.
[04:50] <trakinas> hehe.
[04:50] <Minataku> Here's the test
[04:50] <jarn> intelikey: No matter how many times I see that, I never stop loving it.
[04:50] <intelikey> :)
[04:50] <titanix88> hendaus: :)
[04:50] <Minataku> trakinas: Translate 351
[04:50] <Minataku> :3
[04:51] <trakinas> Minataku: where?
[04:51] <trakinas> my nickname?
[04:51] <Minataku> trakinas: No
[04:51] <trakinas> hheheeeh
[04:51] <Minataku> Half-messing with you
[04:51] <trakinas> what you meant with 351?
[04:51] <trakinas> ahhhhhh
[04:51] <Minataku> I wanted you to tell me what permissions 351 was
[04:51] <trakinas> one sec
[04:51] <intelikey> times up.   answer was   -wxr-x--x
[04:52] <trakinas> rx-xr-r
[04:52] <trakinas> ops
[04:52] <trakinas> rx-xr-x
[04:52] <trakinas> and wx
[04:53] <intelikey>  answer was   -wxr-x--x
[04:53] <trakinas> almost.
[04:53] <Minataku> trakinas: You'll get it
[04:53] <Minataku> I did.
[04:53] <Minataku> ^^
[04:53] <trakinas> heheh.
[04:53] <Minataku> Alternately, you can use symbolic notation
[04:53] <trakinas> yep
[04:53] <trakinas> much more easier
[04:53] <intelikey> Minataku what's 1777  ?
[04:53] <Minataku> trakinas: "man chmod" will tell you loads :3
[04:53] <trakinas> chmod +xrw
[04:53] <trakinas> heuehu
[04:53] <Gravity_Reigns> anybody run across a problem where not even root can modify permissions on a drive?
[04:54] <Minataku> intelikey: I think that's SUID
[04:54] <trakinas> +xrw = 777
[04:54] <intelikey> Minataku see your  /tmp for clues  :)
[04:54] <trakinas> Gravity_Reigns: you mean, 111?
[04:54] <trakinas> =P
[04:54] <trakinas> or 444
[04:54] <Gravity_Reigns> well, i didnt set it to that
[04:54] <Minataku> I love the flashing red/bold-white for broken symbolic links
[04:54] <Gravity_Reigns> i even tried to set it to 777 and even logged in as root and changed it via gui, still saying it failed to change permissions =P
[04:55] <intelikey> Minataku it is   i just wondered if you could blurt out the lettering  :)
[04:55] <trakinas> Gravity_Reigns: of course not. i didnt say so. sorry
[04:55] <Minataku> rwxrwxrwt
[04:55] <Minataku> Haha
[04:55] <intelikey> :)
[04:55] <intelikey> ok i'm out for a bit,
[04:56] <Gravity_Reigns> even if i log into kde as root and try to change the permissions by hand, konqueror gives an error saying it couldnt change permissions for /media/vault
[04:56] <jarn> Okay, it turns out the problem I was having was not the browser but the website.
[04:56] <trakinas> http://pastebin.ca/521048
[04:56] <Minataku> Most of the crap in my /tmp is -rw-------
[04:56] <intelikey> Gravity_Reigns there is no permission on the M$ file systems.
[04:56] <Minataku> 600 X3
[04:57] <Gravity_Reigns> hm. when my user account tries to go into it it says "you do not have enough permissions to access this file"
[04:57] <Minataku> Check the user account is allowed access to the dir
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> i think you have to use umask on ntfs/fat file systems
[04:57] <intelikey> Gravity_Reigns mount assigns a psuedo permsiions bit for the fs    man mount   and note the part about special options for specific file systems
[04:58] <trakinas> at least your dvd drive dont switch from "permission denied" to "io error"
[04:58] <Minataku> I know I fixed that on my system by just having my user own the mount points
[04:58] <Minataku> Since it's a 1.5 user system
[04:58] <Minataku> Me and root
[04:58] <Minataku> X3
[04:58] <Gravity_Reigns> yah x3
[04:58] <intelikey> Gravity_Reigns short answer   sudo mount -o remount,umask=000,ro /media/vault
[04:59] <Minataku> They used to be FAT32, they're reiserfs now
[04:59] <Minataku> Have been for a while
[04:59] <Minataku> Plan to make backups then change it to ext3
[05:00] <trakinas> AHHHHHHH! I love dmesg... more out puts for our joy!
[05:01] <intelikey> trakinas you like that ?        cat /var/log/*
[05:01] <trakinas> intelikey: http://pastebin.ca/521059
[05:02] <trakinas> intelikey: ha! do you think that i dont know what cat is for and what is going to happen if i do that? ;] 
[05:03] <intelikey> you'll see "more out puts for our joy!"
[05:04] <trakinas> intelikey: i know! cat reads the content of a file. that will show enything in the log dir.
[05:04] <trakinas> ;] 
[05:04] <trakinas> i didnt skip the cat class yestarday. hooray!
[05:04] <trakinas> :P
[05:04] <intelikey> again i voice my protest at line 17 of your pastebin.
[05:05] <trakinas> drwxr-xr-x   7 root root 4,0K 2007-05-29 02:45 /root this?
[05:05] <intelikey>  /root should not need to be world accessable.
[05:05] <intelikey> kdm does that to you.
[05:05] <trakinas> so, that would be causing the trouble?
[05:06] <intelikey> trakinas no.  i'm just venting a protest.
[05:06] <trakinas> heheehehe
[05:07] <trakinas> dude, Im afraid my drive is screwed. :/
[05:07] <intelikey> trakinas it does look like something wrong with the disk or a problem with the kernel and it's scsi emulation.
[05:08] <intelikey> can you try another kernel ?
[05:08] <trakinas> intelikey: i was going to point that.. i mean, why kubuntu uses scsi emulation?
[05:08] <intelikey> and can you try another disk ?
[05:08] <trakinas> intelikey: one similar to gentoo kernel? sure! :D
[05:08] <trakinas> jk!
[05:08] <intelikey> gentoo kernel would be fine with me.
[05:08] <trakinas> is just that it used to work on gentoo, and it didnt use scsi emulation
[05:09] <trakinas> intelikey: i was loving gentoo, but after a year.. i got tired emerge -av package
[05:09] <trakinas> :/
[05:09] <intelikey> exactly.   i have found one bug   with scsi emulation and real scsi devices    there may be others.
[05:09] <trakinas> so, which kernel would you recomend?
[05:10] <Minataku> Custom
[05:10] <Minataku> And if it's really a problem, file a bug report
[05:10] <intelikey> check the package manager and see what is handy.     or roll your own.
[05:11] <intelikey> might install a 2.4 kernel just to test then if it is in the kernel   do file a bug on it.
[05:11] <trakinas> okay! i will do that (not tomorrow, for sure.. need to finish some college works 1st)
[05:12] <intelikey> it seems that scsi emulation is a good idea if you don't have any scsi devices...    but i do!
[05:12] <archaeopteryx> hi, the following problem: downloaded feisty live-cd, tried to install, but no partitions in step 4, so took the oem version
[05:12] <trakinas> intelikey: just to be quite sure - install a 2.4 kernel, try mounting it via scsi emulation and fill up a bug report if everything goes wrong?
[05:13] <archaeopteryx> then grub install failed and i took lilo
[05:13] <trakinas> brb
[05:13] <archaeopteryx> but it ignores the primary partition with win xp. is there a way to choose on startup?
[05:14] <intelikey> trakinas try without scsi emulation and with     if w/scsi-emu you have the same problem  that's the problem   (assuming you don't have issues without it.)
[05:14] <archaeopteryx> also, boot cds seem to be ignored
[05:14] <intelikey> trakinas if you have issues without scsi-emulation on other kernels then that's obviously not the cause.
[05:15] <intelikey> simple logic   and process of elimination
[05:15] <intelikey> E-limon-nation
[05:16] <intelikey> lemon ?
[05:16] <intelikey> what ever.
[05:16] <intelikey> two m's maybe
[05:16] <intelikey> not my language, i just twist to suit my needs.
[05:17] <intelikey> archaeopteryx you can add an entry in your /etc/lilo.conf
[05:18] <intelikey> archaeopteryx here's an example.  note the part about hdc1  that's a windows segment    http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/36948
[05:20] <intelikey> archaeopteryx oh sorry. not in that post let me find it again....
[05:20] <archaeopteryx> intelikey: thank you
[05:20] <intelikey> ah  there is an example in    man lilo.conf
[05:20] <intelikey> archaeopteryx ^
[05:21] <archaeopteryx> thx
[05:21] <intelikey> archaeopteryx the   other=/dev/hda3   would work nicely   just change to the correct device.
[05:22] <intelikey> if you have trubble with it i'll be about.
[05:25] <trakinas> intelikey: just one last question before i log out... makemenuconfig is possibe under ubuntu?
[05:25] <intelikey> yes     gtk is needed but yes.
[05:26] <intelikey> err no not gtk   ncurses
[05:26] <intelikey> sorry.
[05:26] <trakinas> intelikey: ahhhhhh! i heeheheh.
[05:26] <trakinas> okay then.
[05:26] <trakinas> have to go now. cheers!
[05:26] <intelikey> shalom
[05:26] <trakinas> thank you! :] 
[05:32] <intelikey> what's up doc ?
[05:33] <dr_willis> Watching some TV. :)
[05:33] <rollerskatejamms> whats the difference between the kubuntu cd and dvd
[05:33] <rollerskatejamms> the dvd just  contains more packages that i can apt-get off of it?
[05:33] <intelikey> a buck two ninty five on sunday.
[05:34] <dr_willis> dvd has live cd + alt instgall (i think)   and some extra packages
[05:34] <Minataku> Heya, dr_willis
[05:34] <Minataku> Missed you yesterday/this morning/whenever it was
[05:34] <dr_willis> hay Minataku
[05:34] <Minataku> What's up?
[05:34] <dr_willis> I got 3 amigas, 1 cd32, but only 1 working Power supply.
[05:34] <dr_willis> got 2 dead amiga PS's
[05:34] <intelikey> yeah that's about all.  the installers and the extra packages that you can't use cause updates are out and apt will always get the newest
[05:34] <Minataku> Heh
[05:34] <Minataku> One working is fine
[05:34] <dr_willis> you can convert a PC PS to amiga. if ya know what you are doing/research it.
[05:34] <Minataku> dr_willis: Comp Eng Tech
[05:35] <Minataku> I know what I'm doing and definitely can :D
[05:35] <dr_willis> Sucks i cant find the CD32 PS. it not identical to the others.
[05:35] <Minataku> dr_willis: What models, if I may ask?
[05:35] <dr_willis> I was wantiong to keep one amiga for myself. they are all A1200's
[05:35] <dr_willis> but i aint got much even for one.
[05:35] <Minataku> Not bad
[05:35] <Minataku> Heh, you could keep the CD32
[05:35] <dr_willis> one has a expansion/cpu/mem/
[05:35] <Minataku> That was more of a console
[05:36] <Minataku> dr_willis: Ooooh, sweet
[05:36] <dr_willis> I dont need it either. the cd32 i got has the expansion unit that turns it into a real amiga + CD drive
[05:36] <dr_willis> in some ways its nicer then a a1200 - you can make a bootable cd real easy
[05:36] <Minataku> Ah, kickass
[05:36] <Minataku> Okay, sure, if you don't want any of them I'll take them all :D
[05:36] <dr_willis> BUT that expansion was so flakey. ya baciaially have to connect it and hot glue the thing down to a  board.
[05:37] <dr_willis> heh. yea - tracking down some box's and some bubblewrap
[05:37] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:37] <Minataku> Sweet :D
[05:38] <Minataku> I've been known to use multiple systems to upgrade other ones, after all
[05:38] <Minataku> That's how I upgraded the Macintosh Classic
[05:38] <Minataku> I happened to have a few non-parity 1MB 30 pin SIMMs
[05:40] <intelikey> Minataku & dr_willis nothing happening in here right now.  i'm gonna leave it with you for a while.  toodles.
[05:40] <hitmanWilly> hey, dr_willis, just found a 1200 PS on ebay :) http://cgi.ebay.com/AMIGA-500-600-1200-POWER-SUPPLY_W0QQitemZ180122696787QQihZ008QQcategoryZ4598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[05:40] <dr_willis> There ya go.
[05:40] <hakaisou> that's a beefy supply
[05:40] <Minataku> Heehee
[05:41] <dr_willis> you cn convert some wires on a normal PC PS. i recall.. but that may of been only with older AT's
[05:41] <Minataku> dr_willis: Even if, I've got sources for various PSs
[05:41] <hakaisou> what do you need that thing for?
[05:41] <Minataku> Plus I have the knowledge to even build one
[05:41] <hakaisou> rebuilding an amiga?
[05:41] <dr_willis> getting that lame conector for the amiga is the hard part.
[05:41] <Minataku> dr_willis: Heh, IIAF, soldering iron
[05:42] <Minataku> One working PSU is plenty anyway
[05:42] <Minataku> ATM, I have one 24/7 system
[05:42] <vecina> please tell me that being on ubuntu does not mean i cant view Youtube.
[05:42] <Minataku> The rest are all momentary
[05:42] <hendaus> titanix88:  :)
[05:42] <Daisuke_Ido> vecina: no, it doesn't mean that
[05:43] <hitmanWilly> vecina: you just need flash
[05:43] <Minataku> vecina: YouTube, CourtTV RED, all good to do
[05:43] <Minataku> *go
[05:43] <vecina> Daisuke_ido  well every video just looks like its finished instyead of playing
[05:43] <Minataku> Just grab Flash 9 and you're good for them and more, like Adult Swim Video
[05:43] <vecina> oh ok
[05:43] <vecina> thanks.
[05:43] <Minataku> np
[05:43] <Daisuke_Ido> you can either install flashplugin-nonfree from the repos, or install from adobe's site
[05:43] <titanix88> hendaus: pkot made u working?
[05:44] <hendaus> no :(
[05:44] <vecina> i cant find that in the repos. ill have to go to the site
[05:47] <kgx> anyone knows if there are console color schemes proven to be easier on the eyes?
[05:47] <Daisuke_Ido> since everyone's eyes are different, i'm guessing no.
[05:47] <vecina> Hey, its me, about the flash thing....
[05:47] <marcelol> anyone here able to get the nv-glx package to install........?
[05:48] <vecina> did i mention im on amd 64 architecture? :(
[05:48] <marcelol> on my system it says that the driver and the kernel package are different builds...
[05:48] <marcelol> except I can't see where to dl a newer kernel packge in adept
[05:48] <marcelol> nv-glx  9631.....kernel driver 7xxx ( can't remember the rest of the numbers )
[05:49] <marcelol> any ideas anyone ?
[05:50] <crdlb> marcelol, linux-restricted-modules includes all three versions
[05:50] <crdlb> and the right one is supposed to be chosen at boot
[05:50] <crdlb> however it's been known to screw up
[05:50] <marcelol> just put in "linux-restricted-modules" in adepts filter ?
[05:50] <crdlb> no
[05:51] <crdlb> everything you need /is/ installed
[05:51] <marcelol> Hmmm...
[05:51] <crdlb> you just need to force l-r-m to use the right version
[05:51] <marcelol> nv-glx didn't get installed by default
[05:51] <crdlb> but you installed it
[05:51] <Daisuke_Ido> nvidia-glx?
[05:51] <crdlb> in /etc/default/linux-restricted-modules-common
[05:52] <marcelol> let me take a look
[05:52] <crdlb> set: DISABLED_MODULES="nvidia_legacy nvidia_new"
[05:53] <naught101> anyone know if it's possible to take a screenshot in kubuntu /including the mouse cursor/?
[05:53] <marcelol> ok...added that
[05:53] <marcelol> adept says that none of those packages are even installed though
[05:53] <crdlb> marcelol, they have to be
[05:53] <wolferine> naught101, um sure you can
[05:53] <wolferine> printscreen?
[05:53] <crdlb> otherwise 7184 wouldn't have been installed
[05:54] <Minataku> I know in A/UX (at least 3.1.1) you can take screenshots with Shift+Pretzel+3
[05:54] <Minataku> But that doesn't help you at all
[05:54] <Minataku> XD
[05:54] <Minataku> Sorry X3
[05:54] <naught101> wolferine: it doesn't usually include the mouse cursor
[05:54] <Minataku> Oh, snap
[05:54] <marcelol> the only one that shows it's installed is nvidia-kernel-common
[05:55] <Minataku> I know one way
[05:55] <Minataku> There's a program that dumps the contents of the framebuffer
[05:55] <Minataku> Lemme look it up
[05:55] <crdlb> marcelol, is linux-generic installed? and nvidia-glx ?
[05:55] <marcelol> nvidia-glx...no...let me see if linux-generic is
[05:56] <Minataku> It's a program called "fbdump"
[05:56] <crdlb> not a huge fan of adept so: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx linux-generic
[05:56] <Minataku> You may have to find and compile it by source
[05:56] <Minataku> !search fbdump
[05:56] <ubotu> Found:
[05:56] <Minataku> <.<
[05:56] <marcelol> linux-generic wasn't installed either
[05:56] <crdlb> !info fbdump
[05:56] <Minataku> !info fbdump
[05:56] <marcelol> so..install both ?
[05:56] <ubotu> Package fbdump does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:56] <Minataku> I swear, that bot is getting dumber and dumber
[05:56] <hitmanWilly> wow, that's cool XD
[05:56] <naught101> hehe
[05:56] <crdlb> marcelol, yes and use apt-get
[05:57] <naught101> cheers, gotta go
[05:57] <Minataku> Later
[05:57] <crdlb> !find fbdump
[05:57] <ubotu> File fbdump found in libdirectfb-bin
[05:57] <crdlb> !info libdirectfb-bin
[05:58] <ubotu> libdirectfb-bin: direct frame buffer graphics - binaries. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.25.1-5ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 37 kB, installed size 140 kB
[05:58] <Minataku> Doesn't quite seem right
[05:59] <marcelol> crdlib should I also install linux-restricted-modules ?
[05:59] <crdlb> marcelol, linux-generic will
[06:00] <marcelol> ahh..gotcha
[06:02] <marcelol> processing.....looks like it's going to pull down 2.6.20.5-16 ...
[06:02] <newguy> What is the most current kernel version?
[06:02] <hitmanWilly> newguy: 2.6.20-16 in the repos
[06:02] <marcelol> ok...so linux-generic is yanking down the latest released kernel
[06:03] <newguy> I have something 2.6.11 that's edgy eft, right?
[06:03] <hitmanWilly> newguy: yeah, probably
[06:03] <crdlb> newguy, 2.6.17 is edgy
[06:03] <marcelol> I thought 11 was DD
[06:03] <crdlb> 15 was DD
[06:04] <hitmanWilly> was hoary even a 2.6 kernel?
[06:04] <Minataku> 2.6.21.3 is Linux current
[06:04] <marcelol> damn....man is up with his kernel numbers....in words of the great Bender Bending Rodriguez...we're not worthy
[06:04] <Minataku> I'm a little behind
[06:04] <crdlb> !info linux-image-generic edgy
[06:04] <Minataku> Linux Piyoko 2.6.20-Pyocola-i686 #1 PREEMPT Wed Feb 14 22:42:51 EST 2007 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[06:04] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.11 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:04] <crdlb> !info linux-image-386 dapper
[06:04] <ubotu> linux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.26 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:04] <Minataku> !info linux-image-generic hoary
[06:05] <ubotu> linux-image-generic: Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20.16.28.1 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:05] <Minataku> Haha
[06:05] <marcelol> FF can't with 20.15
[06:05] <crdlb> there wasn't a generic kernel in hoary
[06:05] <Minataku> Ah
[06:05] <Minataku> !info linux-image-386 hoary
[06:05] <ubotu> linux-image-386: Linux kernel image on 386.. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.20.16.28.1 (feisty), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:05] <Minataku> I think the bot doesn't care anyway
[06:05] <chemicalvamp> i hate winblows
[06:05] <crdlb> and ubotu doesn't go back that far :P
[06:05] <hitmanWilly> i don't think hoary is even supported anymore
[06:05] <Minataku> chemicalvamp: Why do you think we're all here? ;3
[06:06] <chemicalvamp> lol
[06:06] <crdlb> hitmanWilly, not even close :P
[06:06] <marcelol> looks like that might be bleeding edge ubotu.....because that's what it's bringing down to me now
[06:06] <crdlb> breezy just fell out of support
[06:06] <chemicalvamp> i love how kubuntu knows my sound card, and installs it on its own
[06:06] <Minataku> I'm a Gentoo user
[06:06] <chemicalvamp> but i cant seem to install iton winlows at all
[06:06] <hakaisou> not really the case vamp
[06:06] <hitmanWilly> same here
[06:06] <Minataku> I looked up the soundcard and set it up myself
[06:06] <marcelol> crdlib.....done apt'ing the two packages....
[06:06] <hakaisou> you are kinda right
[06:06] <marcelol> what now ?
[06:06] <Minataku> All while leaving out every sound card I _don't_ have XD
[06:07] <marcelol> just switch it in the System Settings ? and restart X ?
[06:07] <klobster> out of curiosity if KDE and gnome merged, do you think they would call it knome?
[06:07] <marcelol> or something else required ?
[06:07] <chemicalvamp> wish kubuntu could jump over to the other partition slap some sence into winblows and then jump back
[06:07] <crdlb> marcelol, err reboot I guess and make sure you boot the generic kernel
[06:07] <marcelol> kbloster....bite your tongue
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> Minataku: just updated my kernel today...a 10 minute full kernel compile :)
[06:08] <Minataku> hitmanWilly: Heehee
[06:08] <hakaisou> *boring lesson* most linux distros use a sound driver called ALSA "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture"
[06:08] <Minataku> ccache?
[06:08] <newGuy_> Sorry, got disconnected.
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> Minataku: last time i did it on ubuntu took over an hour :)
[06:08] <hakaisou> it supports a stupid number of cards
[06:08] <Minataku> hakaisou: Wrong
[06:08] <Minataku> ALSA is the sound engine
[06:08] <chemicalvamp> klobster that should be followed by "when hell freezes over"
[06:08] <hakaisou> oh really?
[06:08] <Minataku> The drivers are what allow ALSA to access the cards
[06:08] <hakaisou> hmm, misunderstood then.  please tell me
[06:08] <marcelol> it said the following:
[06:08] <marcelol> Setting up linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-15-386 (2.6.20.5-15.20) ...
[06:08] <marcelol> Setting up nvidia-glx (1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.28) ..
[06:08] <hakaisou> ah, i see
[06:08] <marcelol> so I'm assuming to boot the 2.6.20.5-16 ?
[06:09] <marcelol> 2.6.20.5-16.28?
[06:09] <hakaisou> thanks for the clarification Miataku
[06:09] <hakaisou> Minataku *
[06:09] <dr_willis> well night all.
[06:09] <Minataku> hakaisou: No problem
[06:09] <crdlb> marcelol, boot the newest generic kernel
[06:09] <marcelol> ahh....ok
[06:09] <marcelol> brb.....hopefully....
[06:10] <Minataku> Yeah, ALSA is the whole sound framework/API
[06:10] <Minataku> The individual drivers are a part of the whole thing
[06:10] <newGuy> So anytime I try to boot into kubuntu I get an error message that the ramdrive is full, followed by "Kernel Panic - Not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs..."
[06:10] <newGuy> Is there anything I can do?
[06:10] <chemicalvamp> anybody know, "if a person where to have to reinstall windows on the main partition, would they be able to reinstall grub on a live cd?
[06:10] <Minataku> Get more RAM
[06:11] <hitmanWilly> chemicalvamp: yes
[06:11] <newGuy> It used to work Minataku, and I've run memtest, my ram is fine.
[06:11] <Minataku> newGuy: Is this an old computer? And is this the LiveCD?
[06:11] <Minataku> Hm
[06:11] <greg_g> heya, anyone know about a recent (last week) post that was on planet.kde.org about a script to keep gnome and kde applications in different menus if you have both installed?
[06:11] <Minataku> newGuy: That is weird.
[06:11] <newGuy> No, this was a previously working installation.
[06:11] <chemicalvamp> would i have to do a chroot?
[06:11] <hakaisou> i used to get that error before i got the plug to fully power my dual core cpu
[06:11] <newGuy> AMD X2 computer, 1 gig ram.
[06:12] <hakaisou> only had a p4, needed a p8
[06:12] <newGuy> This installation was previously working, till I moved the computer, could a plug be out of whack or something?
[06:12] <Minataku> newGuy: Couldn't hurt to check inside
[06:12] <hakaisou> indeed
[06:12] <hitmanWilly> newGuy: possibly
[06:13] <hakaisou> never underestimate the id 10 t error
[06:13] <Minataku> Everyone gets that wrong
[06:13] <duncan_> lol
[06:13] <newGuy> What is ud 10 t?
[06:13] <Minataku> It's 1D10T
[06:13] <newGuy> LOL
[06:13] <duncan_> rofl
[06:13] <chemicalvamp> my fried once took his tower on the road when he moved.. and the cpu fan power jiggled out
[06:13] <Minataku> It's a one, not an "I"
[06:13] <hakaisou> it's not wrong mina
[06:13] <marcelol> ok...rebooted
[06:13] <hakaisou> just another way of puting it
[06:13] <Meglo> FUCK YES POWER RANGERS
[06:13] <marcelol> graphics card and driver still say "nv" not "nv-glx"
[06:13] <hakaisou> besides, saying ID 10 T makes sense
[06:13] <newGuy> hakaisou, what plug was not working correctly for you?
[06:13] <marcelol> Hmmmm
[06:14] <Minataku> hakaisou: Correct is 1
[06:14] <duncan_> agreed
[06:14] <hakaisou> never heard it with a 1, and it's not "correct"  just alternate
[06:14] <hakaisou> newGuy, the processor power plug
[06:14] <duncan_> dosen't really matter
[06:14] <hakaisou> i was a p8 plug, but i only had a p4
[06:14] <newGuy> Where is that located?
[06:14] <marcelol> how do I switch it to use the glx drivers ?
[06:15] <hakaisou> next to the proc, if you even have one
[06:15] <newGuy> Thank you.
[06:15] <jaloola> end
[06:15] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[06:15] <jaloola> quit
[06:15] <marcelol> ok
[06:16] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: that should set up xorg.conf correctly for you
[06:16] <marcelol> ok...it said it created a new xorg.conf....gonna look at it
[06:17] <marcelol> ok...looks reasonable....what now ? restart X ?
[06:17] <marcelol> or reboot ?
[06:17] <hitmanWilly> marcelol: restart X
[06:17] <crdlb> marcelol, what did you use?
[06:17] <crdlb> you need to reboot if you enable a restricted driver
[06:18] <marcelol> I thought I used the nvidia one ?
[06:18] <marcelol> all it says is "nvidia" in the driver section of xorg.conf
[06:18] <hitmanWilly> crdlb: actually, the nvidia driver modprobes itself on install :)
[06:18] <crdlb> oh nm then
[06:19] <crdlb> wait how could it?
[06:19] <marcelol> "Device".....Identifier....<My video card is named> ...then ...Driver "nvidia"
[06:19] <crdlb> it'll fail to modprobe if you don't have nvidia in your xorg.conf
[06:19] <marcelol> It does not...
[06:19] <crdlb> sudo modprove nvidia
[06:19] <marcelol> hopefully it should be using the right kernel module.
[06:19] <crdlb> then you should be able to restart X
[06:19] <crdlb> if X fails to start, try rebooting
[06:20] <marcelol> Hmmm...the modprobe says it failed to run the install command for nvidia
[06:20] <crdlb> marcelol, ok try rebooting
[06:20] <marcelol> adept said something about "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" or some such
[06:20] <crdlb> if it doesn't work...
[06:20] <crdlb> remember:
[06:20] <crdlb> !xconfig
[06:20] <ubotu> To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[06:21] <marcelol> yeah...boot recovery and ZAP back the original xorg.conf
[06:21] <crdlb> the second command  ^^
[06:23] <marcelol> gonna try it out
[06:25] <billykan>  ~~~
[06:26] <billykan>  ???
[06:30] <dsmith_>   wow I can type taiwanese
[06:30] <dsmith_> errr. or perhaps its Korean
[06:31] <crimsun> it's Korean.
[06:31] <dsmith_> I was close..
[06:31] <crdlb> is there a korean channel?
[06:32] <dsmith_> there should be
[06:32] <dsmith_> between this one and ubuntu, there will only be more ppl coming in here
[06:35] <Nicofrand> hello
[06:36] <juanvalde> Can someone help a linux networking newb with a networking problem?
[06:37] <PokerFacePenguin> give it a shot juan
[06:37] <marcelol> well that was futile
[06:38] <marcelol> I went to the recovery console and tried to start X by hand...
[06:38] <Minataku> Heh
[06:38] <marcelol> and I got the same thing as when I tried to sudo modprobe nvidia
[06:38] <marcelol> yeah...
[06:38] <Minataku> I just had X explode
[06:38] <marcelol> "error running install command for nvidia. failed ot load nvidia kernel module"
[06:38] <marcelol> I'm thinking "WTF ?"
[06:39] <Nicofrand> kubuntu refuses to start today oO and i don't know why...the logo appears, this is loading and then the logo comes one more time and then the screen is black, i can just write text (but this is not a console )
[06:39] <marcelol> Nico....you're suffering from the same as I
[06:39] <marcelol> "Cannot load your video drivers kernel module"-itis
[06:39] <Nicofrand> marcelol: but where did you see that?
[06:40] <juanvalde> LAN cannot get IP, though all windoz computers seem to be fine
[06:40] <marcelol> that's EXACTLY what happens to me when I switch to the nv-glx driver
[06:40] <marcelol> didn't see it Nicofrand....just been dealing with that behavior for about a day or so now
[06:40] <Nicofrand> marcelol: uh ok ,but how do you start the recovery console?
[06:40] <marcelol> uh....select it in grub ?
[06:41] <Nicofrand> ok i'll try
[06:41] <marcelol> if you were trying to switch drivers...might I recommend the same thing they told me to get back to a working desktop
[06:41] <marcelol> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xervers-xorg -phigh
[06:42] <marcelol> then select the most appropriate generic driver ( for me it was just 'nv' )
[06:42] <marcelol> anyway....
[06:42] <marcelol> anyone have any ideas about why the nvidia kernel module is unable to load ?
[06:43] <marcelol> modprobe won't perform install command for nvidia
[06:44] <marcelol> it's the darnest thing
[06:44] <newguy> The last thing I did on this computer was update the WINDOWS drivers for my processor, (AMD athelon 64 X2), then when I tried to boot into linux I now get an error saying the ramdrive is full, followed by an error "Kernel Panic - Not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)"
[06:44] <newguy> I checked all the cables, they are connected. Moving the computer must not have been the culprit.
[06:44] <crdlb> marcelol, try this: sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r); sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[06:45] <greg_g> so, I know there is a script or something out there that separates gnome and kde apps into separate menus when you have both installed, anyone know where that is?
[06:45] <crdlb> and make /absolutely/ sure that you boot the generic kernel
[06:46] <newguy> Any ideas?
[06:48] <marcelol> ok..1) all in one line 2) use "uname" or my login name ?
[06:48] <flake> how could I go about converting a FLV file to an AVI or WMV?  VLC plays the FLV format ok
[06:48] <MrElmo> is there a way to upgrade from Kubuntu Edgy to Feisty without downloading the Feisty Live CD?
[06:49] <crdlb> marcelol, it's all one one and use exactly what it typed :)
[06:49] <flake> MrElmo - yes, that's what I did but I forget the website should be in ubuntu forums
[06:49] <crdlb> it'll be substituted with your kernel version
[06:49] <marcelol> and away it goes...
[06:50] <MrElmo> thanks, flake
[06:50] <marcelol> removing linux-restritcted-modules-2.6.20-16
[06:50] <flake> np
[06:50] <flake> i backed up my home directories but gave me an option to keep them, didn't loose anything in them
[06:50] <marcelol> now it switched to linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20-16-generic
[06:51] <marcelol> now what ?
[06:51] <crdlb> it's finished?
[06:51] <marcelol> yes
[06:51] <crdlb> now reboot and choose the generic kernel
[06:51] <crdlb> (as opposed to the 386 kernel)
[06:51] <MrElmo> flake, do you know if feisty comes with ntfs-3g installed?
[06:51] <marcelol> do I do the nvidia-xconfig now, or after ?
[06:51] <crdlb> marcelol, nope that's done
[06:52] <marcelol> ok..I'll give it a shot
[06:52] <crdlb> all that does is change your xorg.conf to nvidia
[06:52] <marcelol> brb
[06:52] <marcelol> hopefully
[06:52] <flake> I don't remember, but somehow I have that
[06:52] <MrElmo> cool.  okay, thanks again
[06:52] <flake> NTFS configuration tool
[06:52] <marcelol> won't I need that to switch to the glx enabled drivers ?
[06:52] <marcelol> anyway..I'll brb
[06:52] <crdlb> marcelol, if your xorg.conf says nvidia, you're done
[06:53] <marcelol> oh it doesn't yet...
[06:53] <luis> yes
[06:53] <marcelol> had switch back to nv so I could get to here
[06:53] <crdlb> oh lol
[06:53] <crdlb> you're right
[06:53] <marcelol> let me do that and reboot
[06:53] <crdlb> sudo nvidia-xconfig --add-argb-glx-visuals -d 24
[06:53] <crdlb> ^^ if you want to run beryl :P
[06:53] <jimmy> I am having a problem with sound on a THinkpad T43 after the latest 2.5.20-16 kernal upgrade, anyone else?
[06:53] <Nicofrand> (back )
[06:53] <marcelol> of course I want to RUN beryl
[06:54] <marcelol> brb
[06:54] <flake> does beryl work good with 3d windowed/fullscreen games?
[06:54] <Edijus1> Can someone help me with modifying Kubunu? I need someone puts restricted package on it and some apps then makes ISO and uploads it
[06:54] <Nicofrand> marcelol: do you still have the nvidia problem?
[06:54] <marcelol> gonna reboot and see if it works now
[06:54] <marcelol> brb
[06:54] <Nicofrand> ok
[06:54] <rollerskatejamms> Whats a good way to see how big a folder and all its contents are, from the terminal. (recursively)
[06:54] <pyrosim> du -h .
[06:55] <Kuma> hi, my kubuntu linux distro stoped recognizing my cable Internet connection, how can i fix this?
[06:55] <jimmy> rollerskate: ls -Ral
[06:56] <jimmy> ls --help will list all the available options
[06:56] <crimsun> jimmy: what's the problem?
[06:57] <klobster> Kuma: call comcast?
[06:57] <jimmy> Well, after the kernal upgrade, my sound seems to have cut out
[06:57] <crimsun> jimmy: pastebin ``amixer'', then tell me the url
[06:58] <jimmy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23214/
[06:58] <Kuma> klobster: the problem is i had to switch OS to connect to the IRC channel, can you please tell me what do i do after running comcast command so i can fix this w/o needing asking anything else?
[07:00] <klobster> kuma: first lets find out about the connection: is your cable modem connected to a router, or straight into the computer?
[07:00] <Kuma> klobster:
[07:00] <Kuma> stright
[07:00] <Jack3> whats the app to read text?
[07:00] <Jack3> like voice
[07:00] <klobster> kuma: and it works in windows?
[07:01] <crdlb> Jack3, as in text-to-speech?
[07:01] <Jack3> yes
[07:01] <jimmy> crimsun: I searched the bug tracker, but couldn't find anything, was working just fine before the upgrade
[07:01] <Cosmo__> can anyoe make any suggestion as to good motherboards to go with a AMDfx x2 5600 processor and a nvidia 7950gt video card
[07:01] <Kuma> klobster: yes
[07:01] <crdlb> !info festival | Jack3
[07:01] <ubotu> jack3: festival: general multi-lingual speech synthesis system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.4.3-17.2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 711 kB, installed size 2120 kB
[07:01] <Jack3> thank you
[07:01] <crdlb> there might be something better but I only know of that
[07:01] <klobster> kuma: did you try to ping an ip from the console?
[07:02] <klobster> kuma: (in linux that is)
[07:03] <Kuma> klobster: i pinged www.google.com
[07:03] <Kuma> klobster: the response was automatic, it said host unknown
[07:04] <klobster> are you on kde or gnome?
[07:04] <Kuma> jde
[07:04] <Kuma> *kde
[07:04] <marcelol> well yet again..that was futile
[07:04] <crdlb> :'(
[07:05] <marcelol> it still says the nvidia kernel driver is unable to be installed
[07:05] <marcelol> everything else looks like it's in place...
[07:05] <crdlb> did you ever use envy or the nvidia installer?
[07:05] <marcelol> nope
[07:05] <marcelol> should I try the nvidia installer ?
[07:05] <crdlb> don't recommend it generally
[07:05] <marcelol> ok...then it's good that I didn't
[07:05] <crdlb> although I'm stumped :(
[07:06] <marcelol> I didn't need to do that "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" did I ?
[07:06] <crdlb> marcelol, nvidia-xconfig is equivalent
[07:06] <crimsun> jimmy: looking now, busy
[07:06] <klobster> kuma: go into system settings - > networkl settings and tell me what it says in network connections
[07:06] <jimmy> crimsun: alright, thanks
[07:06] <marcelol> gotcha
[07:06] <marcelol> <-- will have to remember that
[07:06] <crimsun> jimmy: your 'PCM' is muted and zeroed.
[07:06] <crimsun> :-)
[07:07] <Nicofrand> marcelol: i think you just need nvidia-glx, linux-restricted-modules etc and to wrtie nvidia-xconfig
[07:07] <Nicofrand> marcelol: and then startx, if it works, reboot =)
[07:07] <marcelol> yeah..I've got those
[07:07] <marcelol> I did that..
[07:07] <klobster> marcelol: what is the exact error msg you are recieving?
[07:07] <jimmy> cimsun: that is weird, can I fix it from bash?
[07:07] <marcelol> and it left with a blank screen and an underscore in the upper left hand corner of the screen just sitting there
[07:07] <Kuma> klobster: i'm at windows right now
[07:08] <jimmy> crimsun: kmix is a full blast
[07:08] <crdlb> marcelol, what nvidia card is it?
[07:08] <crimsun> jimmy: sure, amixer set 'PCM' unmute && amixer set 'PCM' 80%
[07:08] <Nicofrand> marcelol: if it is an old version you need nvidia-glx-legacy
[07:09] <jimmy> crimsun: ACK! too loud! Thanks, working just great now
[07:11] <crdlb> marcelol, if it's at least a FX series, you can try nvidia-glx-new, but be sure to change DISABLED_MODULES to "nvidia_legacy nvidia"
[07:12] <marcelol_> sorry about that...
[07:12] <marcelol_> what did I miss ?
[07:12] <klobster> I can wait a bit, if you want to reboot, but anyone will need that info to proceed
[07:12] <klobster> kuma ^^
 marcelol, if it's at least a FX series, you can try nvidia-glx-new, but be sure to change DISABLED_MODULES to "nvidia_legacy nvidia"
[07:13] <crdlb> marcelol_, before that I asked what nvidia card?
[07:13] <marcelol_> no it's a GeForce Go 4200
[07:13] <marcelol_> this is an Inspiron 8500
[07:13] <Kuma> klobster: ok, i will take a screenshot and upload it when i come back
[07:15] <crdlb> marcelol_, ooh
[07:15] <crdlb> marcelol_, black screen you say?
[07:15] <marcelol_> yes...with an underscore at the upper left....
[07:16] <crdlb> marcelol_, and no error or anything?
[07:16] <marcelol_> just before that the screen flickers a couple of times...it goes back to the "Kubuntu progress bar " screen...then it takes to to a black screen with the cursor in the upper left
[07:16] <marcelol_> no, not at that point
[07:16] <marcelol_> what I did was to reboot, and boot into the recovery mode
[07:17] <marcelol_> then typed in "startx", and then the screen gets the way I descrbed
[07:17] <crdlb> marcelol_, ok in your Device section of your xorg.conf
[07:17] <crdlb> add: Option "UseDisplayDevice" "DFP"
[07:17] <crdlb> under Driver "nvidia"
[07:17] <crdlb> if that doesn't work search the ubuntu forums for another fix
[07:18] <crdlb> search for nvidia geforce 4 420
[07:18] <crdlb> it's an extremely common problem with the 9631 driver
[07:19] <marcelol_> interesting this time in xorg.conf instead of "NVidia Ti4200 NV28..etc..etc." it says "Generic Video Card" in the "Identifier" option
[07:19] <kuma> hi again
[07:19] <crdlb> marcelol_, that's just from dpkg-reconfigure'ing
[07:19] <crdlb> it doesn't matter as long as it's consistent
[07:19] <marcelol_> I figured as much
[07:19] <marcelol_> allow me to reboot and have a go at it once more
[07:20] <marcelol_> brb
[07:23] <Meglo> http://www.microsoft.com/surface/
[07:23] <Ktron> Hey everyone
[07:24] <Ktron> If a kubuntu 7.04 disc boots, but when any option is selected the monitors go blank and lose their signal, is there much to do but try the alternate cd?
[07:24] <flake> does xarchiver do a good job with 7zip or is there a better way out there to compress an avi file
[07:24] <flake> like a front-end to 7zip, or just zip?
[07:26] <flake> surface - heh - now mirrorsoft is trying to rip off Minority Report
[07:26] <networkparadox> anyone good at working with ~/.kde/Autostart ?
[07:27] <flake> Tom Cruise should arrest the developers for future infringement of patent rights
[07:27] <flake> a reference to the movie, for those I lost or don't care :/
[07:28] <flake> can you imagine all the greasy fingerprints caking up those touch screens
[07:34] <rollerskatejamms> If I add Kubuntu's bleeding edge KDE repo, that means I get KDE 4 alpha right?
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> rollerskatejamms: no, you're probably looking at the latest stable repo
[07:36] <marcelol> thrwarted yet again by my nemesis the NVIDIA kernel driver
[07:36] <rollerskatejamms> Admiral_Chicago, I thought Kubuntu also had a bleeding edge kde repo
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> nope.
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> not by default anyways.
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> give me a second.
[07:36] <rollerskatejamms> i know not by default
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> kubuntu.org looks to be down, no way for me to check..
[07:37] <marcelol> anyway.....I'll give it another try tomorrow
[07:37] <rollerskatejamms> yup
[07:37] <rollerskatejamms> its back up
[07:38] <rollerskatejamms> http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest/
[07:38] <rollerskatejamms> yup its there :-D
[07:38] <rollerskatejamms> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde-latest feisty main
[07:38] <rollerskatejamms> I'm going to install kubuntu and add that repository, inside vmware
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> the line for KDE4 is deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.90.1 feisty main
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> which is not stable. that line is for latest stable
[07:40] <klobster> kuma: are you back?
[07:41] <rollerskatejamms> Admiral_Chicago, Ah ok. Cool thanks. Where did you find that?
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone tell me the defaul port for Ktorrent.
[07:42] <rollerskatejamms> Admiral_Chicago, 6881
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> rollerskatejamms: my comments in my repo. documentation is important
[07:42] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[07:45] <rollerskatejamms> It would be cool if the KDE guys put out a live cd of the alpha release
[07:45] <mindslant> I'm trying to rescue another system.  Using Knoppix 5.10 I've booted and I'm trying to back up the files onto my permanent Kubuntu...but...uh...how do I create a linux network...what ap?
[07:46] <rollerskatejamms> mindslant, you want to create shares on your linux box? what do you want to do
[07:46] <mindslant> I'm going to wipe the other system clean, but I want to back up needed files onto this box
[07:46] <rollerskatejamms> yes but to where.
[07:46] <rollerskatejamms> oh
[07:46] <rollerskatejamms> from that system
[07:46] <mindslant> yes
[07:46] <kuma> klobster: yup, i rebooted and the probelm was gone.
[07:47] <rollerskatejamms> so create a samba share (or an nfs share) on "this box". or install an ftp server like vsftp, and send the files over
[07:47] <mindslant> Theres a ms network, but I'd rather a linux network
[07:47] <mindslant> samba share...1 sec...appreciate it
[07:47] <klobster> kuma: hmm, go figure
[07:48] <Admiral_Chicago> rollerskatejamms: there is one out
[07:48] <rollerskatejamms> mindslant, if you want a "linux network" closest thing to that is NFS i guess
[07:48] <rollerskatejamms> although its techinically a solaris network :-P
[07:48] <mindslant> I find Samba Shares, and there's a wizard for creating a network folder...is that my ticket?
[07:48] <kuma> klobster: anyway, when this happen again, what do you recommend me to do before switching to windows for help?
[07:49] <jacques_> hi
[07:49] <rollerskatejamms> hi
[07:49] <klobster> kuma: hard to say without knowing what happened.
[07:49] <mindslant> salut jacques
[07:49] <jacques_> salut
[07:49] <jacques_> ca va?
[07:49] <mindslant> ca va bien!  et vous?
[07:50] <jacques_> Je vais bien
[07:50] <mindslant> I live in Texas, I dont' get to practice much French
[07:50] <kuma> klobster: isnt there a way to reboot the network configuration? something that make Linux look for the connection again?
[07:50] <jacques_> vous etes fancais?
[07:50] <jacques_> I am from Mali but staying in China
[07:50] <mindslant> Non, je suis Texan.  J'etudie dan ma l'ecole pout trois ans.  Ni hao ma?
[07:50] <rollerskatejamms> kuma, sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[07:51] <mindslant> Trois ans pour chinois aussi
[07:51] <rollerskatejamms> networking rather
[07:51] <kuma> rollerskatejamms :O thanks
[07:51] <rollerskatejamms> kuma, if you just want the linux equivalent of ipconfig /renew
[07:51] <klobster> kuma: yup what he said
[07:51] <rollerskatejamms> kuma, you can just do sudo dhclient interfacename
[07:51] <kuma> lol, thanks a lot for your help :)
[07:52] <rollerskatejamms> If all else fails
[07:52] <rollerskatejamms> sudo flux-capacitor --fix
[07:52] <kuma> rollerskatejamms: sudo dhclient eth0?
[07:52] <rollerskatejamms> kuma, yup
[07:52] <rollerskatejamms> kuma, assuming eth0 is the one you want
[07:53] <kuma> i see...
[07:53] <mindslant> rollewrskate, when I use the wizard for creating a new MS Network Drive...Name is what I want to call the work group, folder is the name of the folder I wan tto create...what do I use as the server?  Myself
[07:53] <mindslant> *rollerskate
[07:54] <rollerskatejamms> mindslant, on windows or linux?
[07:54] <mindslant> Linux?
[07:54] <rollerskatejamms> oh ok
[07:54] <rollerskatejamms> the server is the computer youre on right now then. you dont have to set it
[07:54] <mindslant> Next to Samba Shares is a wizard for creating a network folder.  Thank god!
[07:57] <rollerskatejamms> ok night all
[07:57] <mindslant> thanks
[07:58] <jacques_> mindslant: do you speak chinese?
[07:59] <mindslant> I used to
[07:59] <mindslant> Mandarin anyways
[07:59] <mindslant> I've studied French, Mandarin, some Russian, lived with Koreans and worked in a language lab so I can be polite in about 30 languages
[08:00] <jacques_> great!
[08:00] <jacques_> ha
[08:00] <mindslant> What part of china you in?
[08:00] <mindslant> What I wouldn't do for some home made Hanzou!
[08:00] <jacques_> !I can only speak 6
[08:00] <mindslant> No, I only speak 1 well.  Like I said, In Texas you can only reall practice Spanish
[08:01] <jussi01> !offtopic | jacques_ mindslant
[08:01] <ubotu> jacques_ mindslant: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:01] <jacques_> ok sorry
[08:02] <jacques_> I am trying to get the macos x  look for my kde
[08:03] <jussi01> jacques_: install the baghira theme from the repos
[08:03] <imagine> jacques_: there's a theme for that
[08:03] <jacques_> ok
[08:03] <imagine> jussi01 found it.
[08:03] <jussi01> :D
[08:03] <imagine> hehe
[08:04] <jacques_> why?
[08:04] <imagine> the OSX style is good on a MAC
[08:04] <jussi01> heheh
[08:04] <jussi01> I agree
[08:04] <mindslant> When I try to adjust my sharing in system settings it tells me I need SMB and NFS servers...so what's that?
[08:04] <imagine> :)
[08:05] <jussi01> mindslant: sudo apt-get install samba smbfs
[08:05] <jussi01> i think....
[08:05] <jacques_> is this kwin-baghira?
[08:05] <imagine> mindslant: I speak french as well :P but yeah, samba and nfs
[08:05] <mindslant> well...here goes.  Merci beaucoup
[08:05] <jussi01> jacques_: i think so, install anything that says baghira
[08:06] <imagine> mindslant: Samba shares ( compatible with Microsoft Windows ) and NFS is a filesyste
[08:06] <imagine> system*
[08:06] <mindslant> well imagine (Lennon inspired nick?) it's doing something...
[08:06] <jacques_> only that one
[08:06] <jussi01> jacques_: yep, then thats the one. what doe the description say?
[08:06] <Lam_> i need a program that can play .rm stream files
[08:07] <jussi01> Lam_: real player for linux?
[08:07] <imagine> mindslant: well it kinda meant that way as I have the same philosophy
[08:07] <Lam_> jussi01: oh? didn't realize there was one. i'll look into that. thanks
[08:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Lam_: in the canonical repository
[08:07] <jussi01> Lam_: :D
[08:07] <imagine> mindslant: yeah the apt-get  jussi01 suggested is your package manager
[08:08] <mindslant> slowly I'm picking up the Command line commands
[08:08] <imagine> adept-manager is the GUI version
[08:08] <jacques_> Baghira (panther, in german) makes KDE resemble Apple's MacOS X's Aqua,
[08:08] <jacques_> Panther and Jaguar looks, and also includes its own 'Baghira' look
[08:08] <mindslant> I'm 24 but I still remember programming in basic
[08:08] <imagine> mindslant: well.. i never use them.. rather use a GUI here, even tho I know most of them
[08:08] <jacques_> I have installed it
[08:08] <jacques_> now what is the next step
[08:08] <Admiral_Chicago> !realplayer
[08:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:09] <Lam_> Admiral_Chicago: thanks. that helps. i have the canonical repository but i didn't get a hit for a search of "real"
[08:09] <imagine> omg
[08:09] <imagine> kdelibs takes forever to compile
[08:09] <jussi01> jacques_: press alt+f2 and type kcontrol
[08:09] <imagine> 10 minutes and 2% only
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Lam_: apt-cache search real
[08:09] <jussi01> imagine: lol
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: hey there !! :)
[08:09] <Lam_> Admiral_Chicago: yeah. tried that. $ apt-cache search --names-only real, but i didn't get anything
[08:10] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago! :)
[08:10] <mindslant> Under the system setting sharing GUI samba has green checks, nfs has red X, is that okay?
[08:10] <imagine> no
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Lam_: did you do apt-get update?
[08:10] <imagine> nfs needs green
[08:10] <mindslant> foi
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: working on much?
[08:10] <imagine> but what do you want to do ?
[08:10] <Lam_> Admiral_Chicago: even if i didn't, my computer does it once a day, and yeah i did
[08:10] <jussi01> !info nfs
[08:10] <ubotu> Package nfs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:10] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: just finished a chapter. taking a break and reading some news :)
[08:10] <mindslant> I need to create a network folder to bring over files from another box
[08:11] <imagine> mindslant: *nix box?
[08:11] <mindslant> ??? *nix?
[08:11] <imagine> linux, kubuntu
[08:11] <mindslant> Knoppix 5.10
[08:11] <imagine> kk
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> very good.
[08:11] <imagine> both are on 5.10?
[08:11] <jacques_> and after
[08:11] <imagine> cuz you can use ssh-nfs through fuse-mount if both are with linux
[08:12] <mindslant> This box, where I want the files to come is Kubuntu 7.04 64b.  The other is on liveCD Knoppix 5.10
[08:12] <jussi01> mindslant: try sudo apt-get install nfs-user-server
[08:12] <mindslant> okay
[08:12] <imagine> both are unixes based then, don't use samba
[08:12] <mindslant> knew it!
[08:12] <imagine> linuxes*
[08:12] <jussi01> mindslant: im not certain on that one though, so be careeful
[08:13] <titanix88> hendaus:
[08:13] <imagine> hmm got a tutorial if you are over a LAN network, fuse-mount is good, encrypts all your data in 1024bits
[08:13] <Lam_> Admiral_Chicago: found it: "RealPlayer is available from Canonical's Commercial software repository for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper) only. To install RealPlayer on 6.10 (Edgy), use one of the methods below."
[08:13] <jussi01> Lam_: good :D
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> good.. i think
[08:14] <mindslant> where's the tutorial at imagine?
[08:14] <crimsun> hmm?
[08:14] <crimsun> no, realplay is also available in edgy-commercial
[08:15] <crimsun> i.e., http://archive.canonical.com/dists/edgy-commercial/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[08:15] <mindslant> jussi01...it downloaded adn installed but NFS is still red x'd
[08:15] <imagine> mindslant: http://www.howtoforge.com/nfs_ssh_tunneling
[08:15] <imagine> it's using a debian-based distro, gonna be easy
[08:15] <mindslant> ok
[08:16] <imagine> mindslant: sorry I actually use sshfs which is a mixture of nfs and ssh :P
[08:16] <imagine> google for it
[08:16] <imagine> I'm off to bed
[08:17] <mindslant> Thanks
[08:17] <mindslant> au revois et bon nuit
[08:17] <renato> as a matter of fact "real" appears on the ubuntu.com software catalogue
[08:19] <thomax__> when a Wireless lan PCI card has an atheros chipset it should normally be compatible with linux?
[08:19] <thomax__> Linux linuxbox 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 06:17:24 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:19] <mindslant> Finally...its working
[08:20] <Lam_> realplayer on linux is so much better than on windows. it was always too bloaty on windows
[08:23] <renato> what do you think it's best, real or helix or is it exactly the same?
[08:24] <naught101> anyone know how to run adept through a proxy with a username/password?
[08:25] <naught101> or aptitude, even better.
[08:25] <renato> and you are on the other side?
[08:30] <Jucato> !away > style
[08:33] <insmod> hdparm question -- with the new updates dma was lost i reset it with hdparm but it wont keep 32 -- when i reboot it is 16  again -- alsa k3b resets to 4x not keeping 24x
[08:33] <insmod> alsa = also
[08:36] <style> must be a ubuntu thing that they dont like /away..
[08:37] <mindslant> Thanks every one, g'night ya'll
[08:38] <kraut> moin
[08:39] <v0taguz> Anybody Have problems with the kernel update?
[08:39] <Admiral_Chicago_> v0taguz: everyone
[08:41] <v0taguz> exist solution ?
[08:41] <insmod> why does xubuntu list the hard disks as sda and kubuntu does hda ? why is xubuntu makeing them scsi
[08:41] <Admiral_Chicago_> insmod: i don't know its a very odd issues.
have you heard of it ?
[08:42] <Jucato> I've been hearing some people say that the latest kernel updates turned hda's to sda's...
hmm
[08:43] <Jucato> I haven't upgraded yet so I can't really say
i can't set the hdparm now
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago_> insmod: i've experience it.
[08:43] <Cosmo__>  anyone know what the difference between a nvidia 7950 GT and a 7950 GT KO is?
[08:43] <Admiral_Chicago_> v0taguz: it hung on installing, i restarted and reconfigured dpkg
[08:44] <Admiral_Chicago_> not really a solution
did you fix it ?
[08:45] <Xenophon> !monitor
[08:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about monitor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <omega_wolf> Hello?
[08:47] <omega_wolf> Is anyone awake?
[08:48] <insmod> yes
[08:48] <omega_wolf> I have a question. My friend is running 7.04 and can't play AVIs
install the plugins sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[08:50] <omega_wolf> in the terminal?
[08:51] <Jucato> or in Adept Manager. take your pick
[08:51] <omega_wolf> Thanks!
ya or in anything synaptic etc
[08:52] <insmod> Jucato what does tab do
[08:52] <omega_wolf> Thanks. See you guys later.
[08:52] <Jucato> !tab | insmod
[08:52] <ubotu> insmod: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[08:53] <Jucato> insmod: type the first few letters of the person's nick then press Tab
[08:53] <insmod> Jucato, cool
[08:53] <Jucato> wb Admiral_Chicago
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> odd
[08:54] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks Jucato. i couldn't connect on Irssi for some odd reaso.
[08:55] <Jucato> so now you're on Konvi?
[08:56] <Admiral_Chicago> there I am
[08:56] <Jucato> haha
[09:05] <boubbin> boubbin@koubuntuh:~$ dcop --user boubbin
[09:05] <boubbin> ERROR: Multiple available KDE sessions!
[09:05] <boubbin> Please specify the correct session to use with --session or use the
[09:05] <boubbin> --all-sessions option to broadcast to all sessions.
[09:05] <boubbin> how can i fix this ?
[09:05] <boubbin> im not running multiple sessions of kde
[09:18] <epimeth> aaaahoyhoy
[09:18] <epimeth> :-p
[09:20] <Jucato> ahoy matey! :)
[09:22] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there...more problems it appears
[09:23] <Jucato> with the kernel updates?
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: Yakuake and screen and irssi
[09:24] <Jucato> oh....
[09:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: you ever use yakuake?
[09:24] <Jucato> yep. but I haven't upgraded yet
[09:25] <Jucato> well, I'm off for the day :)
[09:25] <Jucato> see yah!
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> me too. bed now.
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> kkthxbyeJucato
[09:27] <^RiaN^> !cups
[09:27] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with CUPS. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:42] <benjamin> hi, I'm trying to install new fonts. This works in /usr/share/fonts, but is there a way to install it into my homedir
[09:43] <benjamin> I tryed .fonts dir but didn't work
[09:43] <benjamin> the reason is that I want my fonts handy if I do a new installation
[09:44] <Rictoo|SLP> how do I see my current kernel version?
[09:47] <ShadyTree> Sysinfo for 'bquio': Linux 2.6.20-15-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: Intel(R)Pentium(R)4CPU2.00GHz at 1994 MHz (3991 bogomips), , RAM: 485/503MB, 124 proc's, 10.0d up
[09:48] <ShadyTree> run kinfocenter
[09:53] <rodzinka> Juv
[10:11] <premier_> hello, my compy has been running slowly, lagging, even hanging.  Can someone help me diagnose it?  It seems to be something in kde
[10:12] <premier_> like, how long should it take to load a kde program, like kwrite?
[10:13] <premier_> I've been using linux for about 6 months, and I'm not sure, it seems like its gotton a lot slower
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> premier_: probably a runaway service
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> you can run top in a konsole and see what is taking an unnccesary amount of memor
[10:16] <premier_> Admiral_Chicago: okay... well, I have a system monitor that registers about 5%-10% use most of the time, except when I'm doing something intensive like loading programs
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm...second.
[10:20] <defcon_> I installed kubuntu and kde to ubuntu, and for some reasons when I run gnome ubuntu still runs kde services, why is this? can I prevent it
[10:20] <defcon_> its hogging my resources
[10:28] <s-toned> I've got 2 systems with 7.04: the first began to make mouse clicks while scrolling up with the mouse wheel some days ago. The second started to do the same thing today. Any hints?
upgraded
[10:29] <s-toned> not today
[10:41] <_4strO> yop yop
[10:54] <Eeyore-Jr> is there a good pdf form maker for linux?
[10:54] <_4strO> pdf form maker ?
[10:54] <_4strO> opernoffice ?
[10:55] <RytmenPinnen> Hi, I have a somewhat odd bug with kubuntu. About 10-20% of the times I turn off my computer the os exits and all and there's no signal to the monitor But, the computer doesnt power off for some reason
[10:56] <philippon> anyone that can help me with my keyboard, it stops wirking after a while
[11:00] <Eeyore-Jr> i
[11:00] <Eeyore-Jr> i'll try OO.o
[11:00] <Subsonic_> morning guys
[11:02] <_4strO> morning Subsonic_
[11:03] <tulga> I want install counter strike 1.6. where is guide?
[11:03] <deadowl> I wish I knew, I don't play cs.
[11:04] <tulga> help me howto do it
[11:04] <deadowl> And my wireless isn't finding anything, and that's what I need help with
[11:04] <deadowl> I really hate being confined to a computer room, I want to sit in the living room!!!
[11:06] <deadowl> tried looking here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5946
[11:08] <_4strO> deadowl: my wireless isn't finding anything <-- perhaps there is anything to find
[11:08] <deadowl> There definitely is
[11:09] <_4strO> ok and it never find anything ?
[11:09] <deadowl> nope
[11:09] <_4strO> anywhere
[11:09] <_4strO> anytime
[11:09] <_4strO> or you just finished the installation
[11:10] <deadowl> bcm4310 UART rev01 with ndiswrapper 1.45, tried uninstalling/reinstalling a gajillion times. This problem started with the kernel update.
[11:11] <_4strO> mmm i'm not specialist with wifi :/
[11:12] <deadowl> yea, perhaps not. The kernel log isn't particularly helpful either.
[11:13] <_4strO> deadowl: did yo try to boot on the old one ?
[11:13] <sa> hey... I'm wondering which program to use when I want to find a wireless accessponit????
[11:14] <deadowl> that one stopped working too
[11:14] <sa> anyone ?
[11:14] <deadowl> knetworkmanager
[11:15] <llutz> sa: iwlist scan
[11:15] <sa> I'm running the knetworkmanager with no success, that's why
[11:16] <deadowl> open konsole or something and type iwconfig
[11:16] <deadowl> does it tell you there's a wireless card?
[11:17] <sa> no wireless extensions.
[11:18] <deadowl> oh darn
[11:18] <sa> I dont belive it mentions anything abouut a wireless card
[11:18] <deadowl> does it tell you anything whatsoever? or just no wireless extensions.
[11:18] <sa> lo no wireless extensions.
[11:18] <sa> eth0 no wireless extensions.
[11:19] <deadowl> does wlan0 or eth1 exist?
[11:19] <sa> eth1 unassociated..... bla bla
[11:19] <deadowl> eth1 is your wireless
[11:19] <deadowl> try iwlist eth1 scanning
[11:19] <sa> belive so
[11:19] <sa> in the konsole??
[11:19] <deadowl> yea
[11:20] <deadowl> say anything?
[11:20] <sa> jupp alot
[11:20] <sa> what am I looking for?
[11:21] <deadowl> so it doesn't just say eth1 No scan results
[11:21] <deadowl> because that's what mine's doing right now
[11:21] <deadowl> so since you're this far, it means that your computer is actually interpreting the signals so unlike my wireless yours will actually work
[11:22] <deadowl> does it say anything with ESSID or SSID?
[11:22] <deadowl> you'd be looking for something like "linksys"
[11:23] <deadowl> wow... a firefox irc client?
[11:25] <sa> have 4 different ESSIDs
[11:26] <sa> thx 4 helping me friend...
[11:26] <deadowl> okay, i don't know how to actually connect to one from the command line, but try going into network settings
[11:27] <deadowl> or nm
[11:27] <deadowl> you have knetworkmanager on?
[11:27] <sa> jupp
[11:27] <deadowl> if you do, go to connect to other wireless
[11:28] <deadowl> put in the essid, and then the device should say blahablahlbablahalbah (eth1)
[11:28] <deadowl> whichever one you want to connect to
[11:28] <sa> it seems that knetworkmanager doesnt find anything... :(
[11:29] <deadowl> does it say no wireless networks found?
[11:29] <kumamoto> would that matter is the encryption is wep or wpa?
[11:29] <deadowl> have you found yourself worrying about such things in the past?
[11:29] <deadowl> (when you didn't question wireless)
[11:30] <deadowl> if not, you could probably just uncheck "Use Encryption" altogether
[11:30] <deadowl> then you could download wireshark or something to spy on other people using wireless around you, just like they can do to you
[11:31] <sa> hehe...
[11:31] <deadowl> you'll probably find a million things if you filter aim or gnutella
[11:31] <deadowl> afk
[11:32] <jukuli> by the way,thats illegal ;D
[11:34] <sa> thx for the help man, I'll try some more later.... ;)
[11:34] <deadowl> i don't think it is if you're doing it on your own network
[11:38] <deadowl> so does anyone know what to do if your wireless isn't detecting anything?
[11:38] <deadowl> My kernel log keeps saying this
[11:38] <deadowl> DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
[11:39] <deadowl> and then finding nothing
[11:39] <deadowl> i'm wondering if the ff.ff.ff.ff has anything to do with it
[11:40] <deadowl> anyone?
[11:43] <deadowl> once again bcm4310 UART rev 01 using ndiswrapper
[11:44] <deadowl> (1.45)
[11:56] <mohsin> DEAR HOW CAN I CAHANGE THE THEAME OF A KUBUNTU
[11:56] <deadowl> oh god, the ubuntu channel is a nightmare "REINSTALL NDISWRAPPER!!!"
[11:57] <deadowl> how do you change the theme of a kubuntu?
[11:57] <mohsin> YEAH
[11:57] <deadowl> well, if you haven't customized anything yet, you should be able to go to the K-Menu and click System Settings
[11:57] <deadowl> From there you can click on appearance
[11:57] <marko_> i like to optimize my sources.list so i can get the most of the available software
[11:57] <deadowl> (under look & feel)
[11:57] <marko_> any how-to's
[11:58] <mohsin> there is no any thing like apearence there
[11:58] <mohsin> deadowl! there is no any thing like apearence there
[11:59] <deadowl> mohsin, what is there?
[11:59] <mohsin> emrald theame manager
[11:59] <mohsin> and login
[11:59] <mohsin> only two things are listed there
[11:59] <deadowl> ???
[12:00] <mohsin> yeah
[12:00] <deadowl> well, try running kcontrol?
[12:00] <mohsin> where is kcontrol
[12:00] <deadowl> if you don't have custom key bindings: alt+f2 and just type "kcontrol"
[12:01] <Jucato> marko_: which version of Kubuntu are you running?
[12:01] <deadowl> btw, are you using beryl right now?
[12:02] <s-toned> I've got 2 systems with 7.04: the first began to make mouse clicks while scrolling up with the mouse wheel some days ago. The second started to do the same thing today. Any hints?
[12:03] <ShadyTree> different mice?
[12:03] <marko_> Jucato &.04
[12:03] <Jucato> marko_: then all the repositories are already enabled by default
[12:04] <s-toned> ShadyTree: the very same mouse (connected via mouse/keyboard switch)
[12:05] <marko_> Jucato i know but i had some problems before
[12:05] <marko_> with that reppos
[12:05] <Jucato> marko_: before? as in previous versions? or 7.04 also? what kind of problems?
[12:05] <ShadyTree> s-toned, I dont know
[12:06] <marko_> in 7.04 i get the message that apt-get can fetch the key and gzip failed
[12:07] <Jucato> does this always happen? usually that happens when there are server problems with the mirror you are using, afaik
[12:07] <marko_> 2 or three times, now i'm running on modified repos
[12:08] <smile> hi .. how can i play wmv movies under linux ?
[12:08] <sivaji>  smile add plugins
[12:08] <smile> i can just hear sound ... no picture !
[12:08] <smile> sivaji: wich plugin ? and how ?
[12:08] <marko_> with wich player ?
[12:08] <ShadyTree> what player
[12:08] <ShadyTree> are you using Feisty
[12:08] <smile> i use dapper
[12:09] <ShadyTree> oh
[12:09] <smile> i use vlc and kaffeine
[12:09] <ShadyTree> wmv not working in vlc?
[12:09] <smile> ShadyTree: ya :-(
[12:09] <sivaji> smile "apt-cache search  wmv" it will show u
[12:09] <smile> ShadyTree: i just hear sound but no image !
[12:10] <sivaji> smile run that command u will get plugins needed
[12:10] <Jucato> !wmv | smile
[12:10] <ubotu> smile: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:10] <Jucato> er...
[12:10] <Jucato> !w32codecs
[12:10] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs
[12:10] <marko_> where can i find a list of working servers for feasty repos
[12:11] <Jucato> !source-o-matic | marko_
[12:11] <ubotu> marko_: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:11] <Jucato> try those ^^^
[12:11] <mohsin> dear how can i repair my kubuntu
[12:11] <mohsin> ?
[12:11] <marko_> i like to take the most software
[12:11] <mohsin> without reinstalling it
[12:11] <sivaji> smile also  try  "apt-cache search  avi" it will show u
[12:11] <smile> Jucato: i got
[12:11] <smile> helpdeco - decompiler for windows help (WinHelp) files
[12:11] <smile> libvlc0-dev - development files for VLC
[12:11] <smile> mozilla-plugin-vlc - multimedia plugin for Mozilla based on VLC
[12:11] <smile> vlc - multimedia player for all audio and video formats
[12:11] <sivaji> what is decompiler
[12:11] <mohsin> dear how can i repair my kubuntu
[12:11] <smile> vlc-plugin-alsa - ALSA audio output plugin for VLC
[12:11] <mohsin> without reinstalling it
[12:11] <smile> vlc-plugin-arts - aRts audio output plugin for VLC
[12:12] <Jucato> smile: what player are you using? if you are using Kaffeine, try mplayer/kmplayer or VLC
[12:12] <smile> vlc-plugin-esd - Esound audio output plugin for VLC
[12:12] <smile> vlc-plugin-ggi - GGI video output plugin for VLC
[12:12] <smile> vlc-plugin-glide - Glide video output plugin for VLC
[12:12] <smile> vlc-plugin-sdl - SDL video and audio output plugin for VLC
[12:12] <smile> vlc-plugin-svgalib - SVGAlib video output plugin for VLC
[12:12] <smile> wxvlc - wxWidgets frontend for VLC
[12:12] <Jucato> smile: stop pasting!
[12:12] <smile> Jucato: vlc and kaffeine
[12:12] <Jucato> !paste | smile
[12:12] <ubotu> smile: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[12:12] <mohsin> dear how can i repair my kubuntu
[12:12] <mohsin> without reinstalling it
[12:12] <ShadyTree> smile, try  sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[12:12] <mohsin> dear how can i repair my kubuntu
[12:12] <mohsin> without reinstalling it
[12:12] <Jucato> windows media are not covered by extracodecs though...
[12:12] <ShadyTree> oh
[12:13] <Jucato> mohsin: depends on what the problem is
[12:13] <smile> ShadyTree: i got them
[12:13] <mohsin> i want to repair all the components
[12:13] <mohsin> don care whats the prob is
[12:13] <Jucato> mohsin: what do you mean? everything is broken?
[12:13] <mohsin> no
[12:13] <mohsin> not every thing
[12:14] <mohsin> but sometimes my system didn't work properly
[12:15] <Jucato> the only way to "repair everything"  is to reinstall. the only way to "repair kubuntu without reinstalling it" is to fix only what is broken...
[12:15] <mohsin> ahan
[12:15] <Jucato> so solution #1 is to find out what is broken
[12:15] <sivaji> !decompiler
[12:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about decompiler - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:15] <marko_> i added the repos from the source, any alse wich i can use
[12:16] <mohsin> just like i intstall UBUNTU ME VERSION ON MY kubuntu machine
[12:16] <mohsin> but now i want to remove that
[12:16] <mohsin> where can i find that part
[12:16] <Jucato> ME version?
[12:16] <mohsin> yeah
[12:16] <ShadyTree> mohsin, youre not making any sense
[12:16] <mohsin> means muslim version
[12:16] <Jucato> er... you have to ask in the ME forums or channel how to do that
[12:16] <mohsin> no
[12:17] <mohsin> i don want to
[12:17] <mohsin> because u peoples are tooo
[12:17] <mohsin> goood
[12:17] <mohsin> regarding to this
[12:17] <mohsin> please help me
[12:17] <Jucato> mohsin: you have to. because you installed their product. they know best what to do
[12:17] <mohsin> okay dear
[12:17] <Jucato> Ubuntu ME is not an official Ubuntu product/project
[12:17] <mohsin> yeah i know that
[12:17] <Jucato> :/
[12:17] <mohsin> dear
[12:18] <mohsin> please tell me one thing
[12:18] <mohsin> i am totaly fed up eith the black screeen while booting ma system
[12:18] <mohsin> is there any splash
[12:18] <mohsin> lol
[12:18] <smile> mohsin: www.gnome-look.org
[12:18] <mohsin> or a colorful stuff like windows xp
[12:19] <Jucato> a default Kubuntu (or Ubuntu/Xubuntu) installation has a bootsplash
[12:19] <mohsin> dear i am using kde
[12:19] <mohsin> it didn't
[12:19] <Jucato> mohsin: btw, there seems to be an #ubuntume channel
[12:19] <Jucato> http://www.ubuntume.com/support
[12:20] <mohsin> ahan
[12:20] <mohsin> thanks dear
[12:20] <mohsin> for ur efforts
[12:20] <mohsin> for me
[12:21] <ShadyTree> I like the UbuntuME look
[12:21] <mohsin> yeah
[12:21] <mohsin> thats why i install it
[12:21] <mohsin> but didn't work on ma machine
[12:22] <sivaji> what is ma machine
[12:22] <mohsin> may be its a beta release thats y might hay some bugs
[12:22] <mohsin> means "my machine"
[12:22] <mohsin> lol
[12:23] <Jucato> it's just Ubuntu + a few Muslim-oriented apps, configurations, and artwork
[12:23] <mohsin> yeah
[12:23] <mohsin> its seems to be like that
[12:23] <mohsin> and an interesting things is that
[12:23] <mohsin> christians have their own
[12:23] <mohsin> ubuntu christion edition
[12:24] <llutz> is there one for atheists too? ;)
[12:24] <sivaji> sudo shutdown -h 100 *going to halt now* when this command will halt my system after 100sec for after 100min
[12:24] <Jucato> (actually there are 2 editions for christians...)
[12:24] <mohsin> ahan
[12:24] <mohsin> which ones
[12:24] <Jucato> UCE and Ichtux
[12:24] <Jucato> (forgot the spelling of the latter)
[12:25] <Jucato> llutz: dunno. maybe there is. feel free to make one :)
[12:25] <smile> hi .. is there any codec to play wmv movies ?
[12:25] <mohsin> right
[12:26] <Jucato> smile: that's the only codec (w32codecs). try playing it in mplayer. maybe you'll have better luck...
[12:26] <smile> Jucato: can i apt-get it ?
[12:27] <Jucato> sure
[12:27] <Jucato> you can even apt-get kmplayer, which is a KDE GUI from mplayer
[12:28] <smile> Jucato: i have it
[12:28] <Jucato> smile: make sure that kmplayer is set to use mplayer instead of xine though
[12:28] <Jucato> (right-click in the window -> Play with -> mplayer)
[12:29] <smile> Jucato: ok
[12:29] <smile> Jucato: thanx
[12:29] <mohsin> jucato
[12:29] <mohsin> please one more question
[12:29] <Jucato> ok
[12:30] <mohsin> how can i move my worlspaces 3D
[12:30] <mohsin> workspaces
[12:30] <Jucato> what do you mean?
[12:31] <mohsin> means like a sqaur moving 3 dimentionaly
[12:31] <mohsin> when we move to another workspace
[12:31] <Jucato> you will have to install Compiz or Beryl for that
[12:31] <Jucato> !compiz
[12:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:31] <Jucato> !beryl
[12:31] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:32] <marko_> i use the repos from source o matic
[12:32] <mohsin> ahan
[12:32] <marko_> and they dont work
[12:32] <mohsin> thanks
[12:35] <OptimusRex> Hi all. One of my kubuntu machines is denying me access even though the password entered at login is correct.
[12:36] <OptimusRex> It is accepting the password then tries to start and shows a black screen but goes back to the login page
[12:36] <OptimusRex> someone please help
[12:39] <OptimusRex> Hello, is anyone available to help? Please
[12:39] <llutz> !ask
[12:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:41] <Jucato> OptimusRex: can you login to the command line? Ctrl+Alt+F1 (Alt+F7 to return to the GUI)
[12:44] <OptimusRex> let me try that Jucato
[12:46] <juan278> i want to mount a file as my home directory but it locks up kde when i do this, any ideas what im doing wrong
[12:46] <Jucato> OptimusRex: if ever you can login the command line, try checking with "df -h" if you still have enough space left
[12:47] <OptimusRex> Jucato, It shows "Last login: wed May 30 11:28:01 2007 on" it stops there and nothing else happens
[12:47] <Jucato> OptimusRex: this is after you enter your username and password in the command line?
[12:49] <OptimusRex> yes. Tried df -h and it shows Size 73G Used 69G
[12:49] <OptimusRex> I think use% is 100
[12:49] <OptimusRex> may be I'm out of space
[12:49] <Jucato> er.. then that's a problem
[12:49] <Jucato> yes try to free up some space
[12:49] <OptimusRex> how do I do that?
[12:50] <Jucato> is / and /home on the same partition?
[12:50] <RytmenPinnen> Hi, I have a somewhat odd bug with kubuntu. About 10-20% of the times I turn off my computer the os exits and all and there's no signal to the monitor But, the computer doesnt power off for some reason
[12:51] <OptimusRex> I'm using the whole disk space for kubuntu with about 1gb for swap I think
[12:51] <OptimusRex> if that's what you mean
[12:51] <Jucato> OptimusRex: hm.. ok. "sudo apt-get clean"
[12:52] <RytmenPinnen> I just filed a bug report but there seems to be other people with similar problems, however most of them seems to be sit on dapper or edgy.
[12:53] <OptimusRex> for some reason the text fills up the screen and I cannot see the command line or where I shold be typing
[12:53] <OptimusRex> seems like everything is too large for the screen
[12:55] <Jucato> OptimusRex: which text? try pressing Enter or Ctrl+C
[12:57] <OptimusRex> all I see is optimus@vampirerex: ~$
[12:57] <llutz> lol, OptimusRex thats the "prompt" where you should enter your commands
[12:57] <tulga> my / partition moved to logical. howto fix grub?
[12:59] <OptimusRex> had managed to enter the line blindly and then my password but then the machine has stopped at the prompt again and by the way, the command does not show up on the screen even when I type it
[12:59] <llutz> tulga: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:59] <tulga> I cannot access to my system. now I have live CD
[12:59] <tulga> what I do?
[01:02] <Jucato> OptimusRex: you've entered the the sudo apt-get clean command? try df -h again and see if usage has gone down
[01:03] <Jucato> return 0;
[01:03] <Jucato> :)
[01:05] <OptimusRex> Jucato, I think the machine is displaying everything late since even when I type in commands it does not show that but shows what was typed in earlier. Like it is running late in showing inputed text
[01:06] <Jucato> OptimusRex: hm.. ok.. but is it now showing usage less than 100%? :(
[01:06] <OptimusRex> no, Jucato. It's still at 100%
[01:06] <Jucato> :(
[01:07] <figueiredo> dudes.. i'm in nedd of a guru c.. someone?
[01:07] <OptimusRex> I hear you Jucato. Not good eh?
[01:07] <Jucato> definitely not good...
[01:08] <figueiredo> dudes.. i'm in nedd of a guru c.. someone?
[01:08] <Jucato> OptimusRex: try restarting, then immediately go into the command line (Ctrl+Alt+F1) once you reach the login screen
[01:08] <OptimusRex> ok
[01:09] <Jucato> OptimusRex: then "sudo apt-get clean" again (hopefully that will free up even 1% of space :(
[01:12] <philippon> I strongly suspect that kubuntu doesn't like my graphics card, how can I check?
[01:12] <OptimusRex> Jucato, when I type sudo apt-get clean it returns to the command prompt but when I df -h it still shows the same 100% usage
[01:12] <philippon> it's a  Asus GeForce 7950GT 512MB GDDR3, HDCP, PCI-Express, 2xDVI-I, Tv-Out, Retail
[01:12] <morphir> could anyone tell me how I get window borders drop shadows? (all the way around)
[01:13] <Graham> morphir: With beryl or something?
[01:13] <OptimusRex> it shows that rootfs is still at 100% usage mounted on / and the udev is at 1% usage
[01:13] <OptimusRex> mounted on /udev
[01:13] <OptimusRex> rather mounted on /dev
[01:13] <OptimusRex> Jucato, how do I auto clean archives and downloade files?
[01:13] <morphir> Graham: I don't have beryl :/
[01:13] <morphir> plain kde
[01:14] <morphir> (kwin)
[01:15] <OptimusRex> tried typing clean after the ~$ prompt and it returned the line 'This program 'clean' is not installed. TY
[01:15] <vprints> what's the app that handels multimedia keys ?
[01:15] <vprints> =)
[01:15] <OptimusRex> You can install it by typing sudo apt-get install smarteiffel
[01:16] <OptimusRex> does  that make any sense?
[01:17] <Lynoure> eiffel!
[01:18] <OptimusRex> smarteiffel
[01:18] <Graham> morphir: I didn't even know it was possible.
[01:18] <space_ninja> sorry guys, but I'm going to try ubuntu now and compare it with kubuntu :)
[01:18] <Lynoure> OptimusRex: still. But who are you answering? I could not see eiffel anywhere in the lastlog
[01:19] <Lynoure> OptimusRex: sorry to be curious, but I'm very fond of eiffel (smart, small or stupid)
[01:20] <OptimusRex> sorry Lynoure I was answering Jucato
[01:20] <OptimusRex> I don't know any eiffel but there's a command showing on my screen that I need to install smarteiffel
[01:21] <OptimusRex> I'm stuck trying to free some space on my machine so that I can log in
[01:21] <OptimusRex> I have some data I want to retrieve
[01:22] <OptimusRex> has anyone seen Jucato? Has he left?
[01:22] <Lynoure> OptimusRex: interesting, it's very rare thing to need, unless you are coding in eiffel.
[01:24] <OptimusRex> ok. I'm trying to type in sudo apt-get clean to free some space but it does not seem to work. Any ideas Lynoure
[01:24] <mo0osah> is anyone else having issues with making virtualbox fullscreen?
[01:24] <Jucato> OptimusRex: sudo apt-get clean
[01:25] <OptimusRex> Hi Jucato was worried you had left. I have typed sudo apt-get clean many times now but no change in usage
[01:25] <Jucato> ugh...
[01:25] <OptimusRex> it just goes back to the prompt
[01:26] <Jucato> the only other option would be to delete (permanently) some files that you don't absolutely need... but be careful, since deleting in the command line is irreversible
[01:26] <OptimusRex> ok. How do I check what to delete?
[01:26] <Jucato> OptimusRex: er.. depends on you. some docs or files or images that you have?
[01:27] <OptimusRex> how do I list the files on my machine?
[01:27] <Jucato> oh wait... this might work (hopefully)
[01:27] <OptimusRex> ok
[01:27] <OptimusRex> I'm all ears
[01:27] <Jucato> OptimusRex: "cd ~/.thumbnails" (go into the .thumbnails directory()
[01:28] <Jucato> ok?
[01:28] <OptimusRex> yes
[01:28] <Jucato> ok "du -hs normal/"
[01:28] <Lynoure> OptimusRex: apt-get clean only clears space if you have packages in the package cache...
[01:29] <Lynoure> OptimusRex: so if you run it twice in the row, the second time does absolutely nothing.
[01:29] <Jucato> Lynoure: I was hoping that it was eating up his space...  apparently not
[01:29] <Jucato> OptimusRex: how much M is reported?
[01:29] <OptimusRex> shows 40k normal/ then returns to optimus@vampireRex:~/.thumbnails$
[01:29] <Jucato> just 40K? hm...
[01:29] <Jucato> how about "du -sh large/" ?
[01:29] <OptimusRex> just 40k
[01:30] <OptimusRex> 20k for large
[01:30] <Jucato> aw..
[01:30] <OptimusRex> now I'm sweating. This doesn't look good does it?
[01:31] <OptimusRex> how do I get the list of files on my directory?
[01:31] <Lynoure> did find for large files yet?
[01:31] <Jucato> actually, it's just easy to free up some space... I just don't know your files so I can't think of what's safe to delete....
[01:31] <Lynoure> OptimusRex: ls -la   gives a nice detailed list
[01:32] <Jucato> OptimusRex: basically, look for some large files that you can delete (permanently) to free up some of that 100% then you can log back in graphically (most probably)
[01:33] <juan278> if i mount a truecrypt partion as my home then try and login i get errors, because files arnt there, is there anyway to get kubuntu to make these files if theyre missing
[01:33] <OptimusRex> shows a list of lines starting with drwx and then other details like 4 or 25 or 2 and 4096 appears for all of them. One ends with "." the other with ".." the other With "large" and the last line with "normal"
[01:33] <knop44> wondering if someone has been able to have knoppix or kubuntu mount and write to internal sd card; have heard this is hard and not found a way to get this done; using live cd with hp laptop thanks
[01:34] <OptimusRex> Jucato: can I list all the files on my machine?
[01:38] <dwidmann> juan278: are you sure it's mounted properly? are all the files that are supposed to be in it actually in the partition or did you just switch over?
[01:39] <juan278> what files need to be in a /home/username ? i coppied them all over to the file i mount
[01:39] <guillermo> hello
[01:40] <guillermo> i am having troble with my ubuntu
[01:40] <guillermo> this mornign when i started the pc, all the texts are very very little
[01:40] <guillermo> kaffeine is working strange and amsn, has huge letters
[01:41] <guillermo> nad the computer is very slow
[01:41] <guillermo> restarting has not changed anything
[01:41] <juan278> guillermo: have you updated anything recently?
[01:42] <guillermo> nope
[01:42] <guillermo> where do i di that?
[01:42] <guillermo> adept manager
[01:42] <guillermo> ?
[01:43] <OptimusRex> does anyone know the command to list all the files on my kubuntu machine?
[01:43] <juan278> adept or synaptic if you use ubuntu , but if you havent updated i have no idea what the problem is
[01:43] <guillermo> what do you mean juan?
[01:44] <guillermo> is updating the problem?
[01:44] <guillermo> cos i am updating right now...?
[01:44] <juan278> OptimusRex:  ls -R -a /
[01:45] <juan278> guillermo: no but sometimes an update can mess stuff up
[01:45] <guillermo> ok i am gonna try to restart after uppgrading
[01:45] <guillermo> and see what happens?
[01:45] <guillermo> do you have anyidea how to change the size of the letters?
[01:45] <juan278> if you have multiple versions in grub see if it happens in all of them
[01:45] <guillermo> all the menus are diminute
[01:46] <OptimusRex> thanks guys. I'm back into the machine
[01:46] <OptimusRex> Thanks Juan278 and thanks Jucato
[01:49] <OptimusRex> activating swapfile swap ....[fail]  does anyone know what that means?
[01:51] <s-toned> Problem: scrolling-down is fine, scrolling-up simulates mouse-clicks. xev shows one "ButtonPress Button2" event and one "ButtonPress Button3" event only in the beginning of scrolling-up. What can I do?
[01:51] <OptimusRex> actually, the problem is back and I am now logged out and back to prompt. Please give me the line to delete files on my machine
[01:52] <juan278> rm file
[01:52] <juan278> OptimusRex: it means your swap partition isnt getting mounted
[01:53] <OptimusRex> could that be the problem making me not be able to log in?
[01:54] <bay_> 1
[01:54] <bay> 1
[01:55] <juan278> OptimusRex: im not sure, i wouldnt think so but it could,
[01:55] <OptimusRex> how do I get into the list of files on my machine and start deleting some of the files since it shows I'm at 100% usagge?
[01:56] <juan278> ls -R -a / lists all the files but i wouldnt delete anything thats not in /hom
[01:57] <juan278> unfortunatly i dont no how to get the output usefull in console
[02:01] <llutz> OptimusRex: move some video/audio to an external drive
[02:02] <Lynoure> OptimusRex: ls -R -a /
[02:02] <Lynoure> OptimusRex: oops
[02:02] <Lynoure> OptimusRex: sudo ls -R -a /  | less
[02:03] <OptimusRex> ok let me try that
[02:03] <Lynoure> OptimusRex: but that gives you _all_ files. Gazillion of them. And simply not knowing what the file is does not make it safe to delete...
[02:04] <llutz> OptimusRex: something like "find ~ -type d -exec du -sh {} \;|less" would be more helpfull
[02:05] <Lynoure> OptimusRex: If you have located your /home, better prune it down first before even considering deleting random stuff from the system
[02:05] <OptimusRex> got into a bind now since there is an (END) appearing on the screen and saying that log file is in use
[02:05] <OptimusRex> how do I get to home file
[02:06] <OptimusRex> how do I get out of the log file?
[02:06] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: press Q
[02:06] <OptimusRex> thanks
[02:06] <OptimusRex> now how do I get to my home file
[02:07] <BluesKaj> no /home folder in System Menu ?
[02:07] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: in a terminal? type "cd ~"
[02:07] <OptimusRex> how do I get there? Just remember I've only been using kubuntu for a month now. Let me try the cd~
[02:08] <OptimusRex> typed cd ~ and hit enter
[02:08] <OptimusRex> nothing just the prompt
[02:09] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: right. But you are now in your home directory. Type "ls" to see the files that are in there.
[02:09] <BluesKaj> cd /home
[02:09] <guillermo> well i restarted and the problem is still there
[02:09] <guillermo> the fonts are diminute imposible to see
[02:10] <OptimusRex> cd /home gives me root@vampirerex:/home# and typing ls shows 'optimus' in blue
[02:10] <OptimusRex> and then root@vampirerex:/home#
[02:10] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: your "cd ~" worked fine. It always just gives you a prompt.
[02:11] <SlimeyPete> so if you go "cd ~" then type ls you should see your files.
[02:11] <OptimusRex> ls after the prompt then gives 'sudo ls'
[02:11] <llutz> if root does "cd ~" he ends in /root, not in users-home
[02:12] <llutz> and he's root:  root@vampirerex
[02:12] <SlimeyPete> ahhh
[02:12] <llutz> OptimusRex: cd ~optimus
[02:12] <OptimusRex> ls after root@vampirerex:/home#  just gives me optimus and root@vampirerex:/home# again
[02:13] <OptimusRex> i'm in optimus now
[02:13] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: home directories are stored in /home/<user login>... so the home of your normal user account is /home/optimus
[02:13] <guillermo> does anyone know how to change the fonts of the menus?
[02:13] <guillermo> the are diminute since this morning?
[02:13] <OptimusRex> it gives me 'desktop' and 'kubocuments' in blue and I know there are some files I could get rid of in kubocuments
[02:13] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: why are you using the root account, by the way? It's not recommended. It's better to prefix commands with "sudo"
[02:14] <OptimusRex> explain pleas Slimey Pete
[02:14] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: by the way, why are you using a terminal to do this? You do know that you can just click the menu at the top of the screen and select your home folder from there?
[02:14] <BluesKaj> guillermo, system setings/appearance/fonts
[02:14] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: you appear to be logged in as root (system administrator).
[02:15] <guillermo> i have been there but the dont change
[02:15] <OptimusRex> the reason is that I cannot log into my machine. It accepts my password and makes like it is login in but then returns to the log in screen
[02:15] <SlimeyPete> ah right, I see.
[02:15] <SlimeyPete> fair enough.
[02:15] <OptimusRex> I need to get into my machine
[02:15] <OptimusRex> jucato suggested that may be I'm out of space
[02:15] <OptimusRex> so I need to free up some space
[02:16] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: Unlikely. Type "df -h" to see how much free space you have on your drives.
[02:16] <Lynoure> OptimusRex: and  df  verified that, I assume?
[02:17] <BluesKaj> guillermo, have you logged out and in ?
[02:17] <OptimusRex> it showed I'm using 100%
[02:17] <SlimeyPete> Wow. Small drives?
[02:17] <SlimeyPete> ok... well once you're in your home directory you can use "cd" to go into directories within your home
[02:18] <llutz> OptimusRex: rm -rf ~/pr0n :))  (no, don't do that!!)
[02:18] <guillermo> blues sjy yeah i am logged in
[02:19] <guillermo> BluesKaj yes i'm logged in
[02:19] <guillermo> it's werid
[02:20] <guillermo> another erros i get is amsn, has huge fonts, and when i try t enter amns preference menu it just gets me an error window with nthing in it
[02:20] <BluesKaj> have you relogged out and in sunce you tried to change the fonts and were you in admin mode when made the changes ?
[02:20] <harsha_> hi
[02:21] <OptimusRex> I'm in optimus and it shows there is a directory called Kubocuments but when I cd that it says no such file or directory
[02:23] <guillermo> bluesKaj yes i tried that agian
[02:23] <OptimusRex> I am guessing I should be typing cd ~Kubocuments to get into Kubocuments. Is that right guys?
[02:23] <llutz> cd Kubocuments
[02:23] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: nope
[02:23] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: are you sure you're typing it correctly? It's case-sensitive.
[02:24] <OptimusRex> Let me give it another try
[02:24] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: you can type the first few letters and press tab to complete the rest, by the way
[02:24] <SlimeyPete> that helps to cut down on spelling errors :)
[02:26] <OptimusRex> tried typing it right and it still says that 'bash: cd: ~Kubocuments: No such file or directory'
[02:26] <llutz> OptimusRex: cd Kubocuments
[02:26] <guillermo> uck it
[02:26] <llutz> OptimusRex: without ~
[02:26] <guillermo> i opened adept manager nut the fint is so little i dont see shit
[02:27] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: ~ is short-hand for home directory. So "cd ~Kubocuments" will ask the system to go to the home directory of a user called Kubocuments.
[02:27] <dromer> can someone help me configure vmware-player? I'm running sudo /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl atm, but I'm stuck at: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[02:27] <dromer> the default doesn't seem to work
[02:28] <OptimusRex> I'm in thanks. Now how do I delete 'audio'?
[02:28] <SlimeyPete> go to /usr/src and find the correct directory, it's probably be "linux-2.6.20-15" or something
[02:28] <llutz> OptimusRex: sure you want delete the entire directory? "rm -rf audio"
[02:29] <OptimusRex> I want to delete the whole directory since I know it's not important
[02:29] <SlimeyPete> dromer: ^^
[02:29] <llutz> OptimusRex:then "rm -rf audio"
[02:30] <OptimusRex> it's back to the prompt does that mean that the job is done?
[02:30] <llutz> OptimusRex: yes
[02:31] <llutz> OptimusRex: df -h says what nowabout your usage?
[02:31] <OptimusRex> still showing at 100% but now 304M available
[02:32] <OptimusRex> but it shows that I have 73 G but using 69G how can tha be 100%?
[02:32] <llutz> OptimusRex: 5G reserverd for root-usage
[02:32] <c1|freaky> discspace reserved for root?
[02:33] <llutz> OptimusRex: users never should be able to fill a filesystem to 100%. therefore there always is some space reservered for root (to be able to do some maintenance)
[02:33] <guillermo_> now somethings very worng with this
[02:34] <guillermo_> i have kaffeine open but i cant see it
[02:34] <guillermo_> i hear the musi and all
[02:34] <guillermo_> but i dont see the program and there is no icon in the tray
[02:34] <OptimusRex> so what have I done? May be this is a first. I'm making history here lol
[02:35] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: how big is your partition?
[02:35] <llutz> OptimusRex: you filled the user-allowed space of the filesystem.
[02:36] <OptimusRex> my hard disk is about 80G and I only use about 1G for swap
[02:38] <SlimeyPete> OptimusRex: does df -h show a 70GB+ partition?
[02:38] <JuJuBee> Morning all.  I'm still trying to deal with a problem from yesterday.  I am unable to manage user accounts on a new install after an upgrade yesterday... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23115/ Can someone assist?
[02:38] <sercik> Hi guys! how do you do?
[02:38] <guillermo> ??
[02:38] <SlimeyPete> cos it'd be impressive if you'd managed to fill up 80GB without realizing ;)
[02:41] <OptimusRex> SlimeyPete: the rootfs is 73G
[02:41] <dromer> SlimeyPete: hmm, now I get: tar: /usr/lib/vmware-player/modules/source/vmmon.tar: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[02:41] <Muz`> :D
[02:41] <Muz`> gm
[02:43] <Muz`> Guys, i got a question
[02:43] <Muz`> How can i make Kubuntu
[02:43] <Muz`> :P oops typo
[02:43] <Muz`> how can i make superkaramba
[02:43] <Muz`> startup if i reboot
[02:44] <Muz`> automatic
[02:44] <SlimeyPete> dromer: Hmm. I'd do a dpkg-reconfigure on the package if I were you.
[02:44] <SlimeyPete> looks like the source code for one of the modules is missing
[02:45] <dromer> hmm
[02:45] <david_> help me please
[02:46] <dromer> SlimeyPete: what package do I need te reconfigure then/
[02:47] <SlimeyPete> dromer: vmware-player, assuming you're using the package that the Ubuntu repositories provide
[02:47] <dromer> yes
[02:47] <dromer> SlimeyPete: hmm: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: vmware-player is broken or not fully installed
[02:47] <llutz> dromer: + vmware-player-kernel-modules-XXXX   according to your kernel
[02:48] <david_> help me please
[02:48] <SlimeyPete> dromer: tbh, I never actually managed to get the package installed myself. I got different errors, mind.
[02:48] <SlimeyPete> I just gave up and used VirtualBox
[02:48] <dromer> haha, ok
[02:48] <dromer> llutz: hmm, didn't work
[02:49] <dromer> !virtualization
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualization - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <guillermo> kaffeine, playing a video only shows me a thine line in the middle of the screen anyone? any idea how to fix that?
[02:49] <dromer> !virtualisation
[02:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about virtualisation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:49] <llutz> dromer: is your kernel-versions 2.6.20-16? then the package is vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.20-16
[02:49] <dromer> hmm, I know he knows more :P
[02:49] <dromer> llutz: yes I did the reconfigure on that, but I still get an error on the vmware configure.pl
[02:50] <dromer> !virtualizers
[02:50] <ubotu> There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu or !qvm86), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[02:51] <llutz> dromer: try "vmware-player-kernel-source " too
[02:51] <dromer> !QEmu
[02:51] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:51] <OptimusRex> Tell me Slimey Pete why do I keep getting no such file or directory even if I type in the words correctly? Am I missing something? What was that shortcut you said about tab
[02:51] <david_> in what directory is xorg.conf?
[02:51] <david_> ?
[02:51] <david_> help me please
[02:51] <jmjones> i'm trying to get konqueror to open links in the currently open window in a new tab when i click on links from kmail.  i have konqueror allegedly configured to do this with the configure->web behavior->tabbed browsing->"open links in new tab" and the configure->web behavior->tabbed browsing->advanced->"open as tab in existing konqueror when url is called externally"
[02:51] <llutz> david_: /etc/X11
[02:51] <jmjones> david_: /etc/X11
[02:51] <dromer> llutz: can't reconfigure that
[02:52] <jmjones> so - how do i get new links from creating a new konqueror if that doesn't do it?
[02:52] <llutz> dromer: it is already installed?
[02:52] <ace_suares> david_: /etc/X11
[02:53] <JuJuBee> Can anybody help me fix kcontrol(user management) or usercofig?  Both will not work and I need to modify user accounts...
[02:54] <dromer> llutz: yes, I was running /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl when I got the errors
[02:54] <guillermo> anyone having trouble with amsn?
[02:55] <llutz>  <dromer> SlimeyPete: hmm, now I get: tar: /usr/lib/vmware-player/modules/source/vmmon.tar: Cannot open: No such file or directory   <- doesn't sound like installed sources
[02:56] <david_> llutz thanks
[02:56] <david_> jmjones thanks
[02:56] <david_> ace_suares thanks
[02:56] <david_> restarting X :)
[02:56] <david_> :)
[02:58] <llutz> dromer: sudo aptitude install vmware-player-kernel-source
[02:59] <dromer> llutz: ok, lets see if that does the trick :)
[02:59] <kumamoto> doesn't kubuntu have a vmware server thingie too
[02:59] <OptimusRex> how do i get to the login screen from root@vampirerex:/#?
[02:59] <OptimusRex> or at least how do I get to restart the machine?
[03:00] <dromer> OptimusRex: visual login? : $ startx  to restart: $ reboot now ; I think
[03:00] <guillermo> hi kaffeine, playing a video only shows me a thin line in the middle of the screen?
[03:01] <guillermo> i'm havng a million problems woht kubuntu today
[03:01] <dromer> llutz: again I get the error, gotta go now though, will struggle with it some more later :S
[03:01] <sercik> hi boys
[03:02] <sercik> someone know how it is possible to add atomatically to kde menu applications that doesn't install a .desktop file?
[03:02] <sercik> many applications create a file under /usr/shre/menu
[03:02] <OptimusRex> dromer $ startx and $ reboot now don't work. Anything else
[03:02] <ardchoille> OptimusRex: sudo shutdown -r now  ?
[03:03] <jmjones> aaahhhhh-----i found the problem that i was having.  it appears that kmail will launch a new konqueror if there's not already one running *on that desktop*
[03:04] <OptimusRex> thanks ardchoille. It has gone into restart
[03:04] <ardchoille> You're welcome :)
[03:04] <david_> no problem :)
[03:04] <OptimusRex> let's see if freeing space will let me log into the machine
[03:05] <david_> you're welcome :)
[03:05] <david_> play to enemy territory?
[03:05] <david_> ?
[03:05] <OptimusRex> how do you guys cope with all these problems?
[03:05] <OptimusRex> not easy using this kubuntu business
[03:05] <dromer> we go to this channel ;)
[03:05] <dromer> OptimusRex: tis easier than you think ;) (and harder :#)
[03:05] <MaTiAz> Yeah
[03:05] <c1|freaky> OptimusRex: experience and knowledge will begin to help you as soon as you've worked some time with linux ;D
[03:05] <david_> ardchoille you play to enemy territory?
[03:05] <david_> ?
[03:05] <OptimusRex> but then again it's not easy using microsoft either it keeps messing up
[03:06] <ardchoille> david_: I don't play games
[03:06] <MaTiAz> I had to throw all my experience about Windows out of the window as it's of almost no use in Linux :)
[03:06] <david_> a ok ok :)
[03:06] <david_> :)
[03:06] <OptimusRex> I see what you mean
[03:07] <OptimusRex> Now I've logged in but it shows a konsole window and not my normal login
[03:07] <OptimusRex> what's happening here?
[03:07] <OptimusRex> there's a tap saying 'shell'
[03:08] <c1|freaky> you logged in at kdm (that login prompt (GUI))
[03:08] <c1|freaky> ?
[03:08] <c1|freaky> and selected "KDE" as sessiontype?
[03:08] <OptimusRex> I logged in at the main login window without selecting any session. It's the normal page where I login other times
[03:08] <c1|freaky> and now you're getting nothing but a window in the middle of the screen called "Shell"?
[03:10] <OptimusRex> actually it's a blue background with a window on the top left side of the screen with some toolbar and one tab called shell. The window is clearly a Konsole window
[03:10] <logixoul> hi. I have the transKode script with latest stable amarok and libxine in Feisty. Trying to transfer an ogg track to a mp3 device. I get "track not playable in media device". Can anyone please help me fix that?
[03:11] <OptimusRex> I've selected the 'default' session and logged in and now it seems to be doing the business.
[03:11] <OptimusRex> let's see
[03:11] <c1|freaky> :)
[03:11] <OptimusRex> I'm in guys. Yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! E-drinks all around and on my tab
[03:11] <OptimusRex> thanks guys a million
[03:11] <c1|freaky> :D
[03:11] <ardchoille> lol
[03:11] <c1|freaky> np u did it yourself ;p
[03:12] <OptimusRex> with your help of course
[03:14] <asfak> hello, everyone. This is for the first time i am coming here. I just installed Kubuntu fiesty (i am opensuse user since long). I am connected to internet using my gprs connection. Right now i am updating repositories. But the problem is my konqueror, kmail could not connect to net as normal user. Though i could do this as root. what should i do ?
[03:15] <OptimusRex> Thanks guys. I'm off to take a shower. This is the only thing I've done all day.
[03:15] <OptimusRex> bye
[03:15] <c1|freaky> cya
[03:15] <c1|freaky> asfak: are you in these groups: dm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev lpadmin powerdev scanner admin ?
[03:15] <c1|freaky> first one is adm not dm
[03:16] <asfak> let me check...
[03:16] <c1|freaky> cmd is "groups"
[03:16] <asfak> my group is "adm, dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev, scanner, netdev, lpadmin, powerdev, admin"
[03:17] <c1|freaky> k
[03:17] <c1|freaky> umm, i think i cant help you as ive never used any gprs connection in any way
[03:18] <c1|freaky> u could try putting yourself in the root group but just as temporary solution if it works.
[03:18] <asfak> see, konversation is also working. i am not a very technical user but is that anything to do with proxies etc
[03:18] <asfak> ok, i will try that...
[03:19] <c1|freaky> konversation is working and its running as your user?
[03:19] <c1|freaky> not root?
[03:19] <c1|freaky> but konqueror isnt?
[03:19] <c1|freaky> maybe KDE has problems ... try looking at the logs
[03:20] <asfak> yes, that's the problem
[03:20] <asfak> i remember, i had the same problem in kubuntu 6.06
[03:20] <c1|freaky> umm
[03:21] <c1|freaky> start konqueror in a console and look at the output
[03:21] <c1|freaky> maybe it helps you fix the problem
[03:21] <asfak> ok
[03:21] <c1|freaky> i dont have any proxy so i cant tell you if it could be caused by that ... maybe ... maybe not ;p
[03:23] <asfak> freaky, this is output "
[03:23] <asfak> ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.6/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)
[03:23] <asfak> ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.6/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)
[03:23] <asfak> ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.6/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)
[03:23] <asfak> ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in /build/buildd/kdebase-3.5.6/./libkonq/konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81)
[03:23] <Jucato> !pastebin
[03:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:25] <hufi> Hallo?
[03:26] <ahmed> [ guys how to install this .. cg_toolkit,,, i have downloaded the tar.gz file but dun no how to install it plz help
[03:26] <ahmed> helllo
[03:27] <ardchoille> What is this in my /boot/grub/menu.lst? root=UUID=4ac0a6ed-8457-4501-bf06-6b6f10f6b0eb
[03:27] <ardchoille> It used to be /dev/hda
[03:27] <Lynoure> ahmed: usually the archive file contains a README file, or the site where you got it can have instructions
[03:27] <sercik> Hi!
[03:28] <sercik> mitico _3v1n0_!!
[03:28] <ahmed> Lynoure, it doesnt have,, it extracts a folder called usr , sound like a system folder cause it have a lib folder inside it and other familiar system fodlers
[03:28] <sercik> Thanks for your sources.list!!!
[03:28] <ahmed> Lynoure ??
[03:28] <hufi> sorry im new here how are you
[03:28] <Lynoure> ahmed: and the site where you got it?
[03:29] <ahmed> http://developer.nvidia.com/object/cg_toolkit.html#downloads
[03:29] <ahmed> Lynoure ?
[03:30] <Jucato> !uuid | ardchoille
[03:30] <ubotu> ardchoille: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[03:30] <Lynoure> ahmed: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/cg_toolkit.html right? Nvidia has support, I think.
[03:30] <ardchoille> Jucato: Thank you :)
[03:31] <Jucato> ardchoille: basically, UUID = Universally Unique ID. a "label" that's assigned to a partition
[03:31] <Jucato> which never changes, unless the partition is repartitioned
[03:31] <alansii> hi everyone
[03:31] <hufi> hi
[03:32] <alansii> anyone know what driver i should choose for mp160?
[03:32] <ahmed> guys do any one here have pcsx2 on ubuntu ???
[03:32] <Lynoure> ahmed: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/cg_faq.html says it contains a manual, maybe that will have it
[03:32] <jacques> hi there
[03:33] <jacques> how can i fix this without restarting my computer?
[03:33] <alansii> anyone there?
[03:33] <ardchoille> jacques: You'll have to elaborate a bit
[03:34] <jacques> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:34] <alansii> anyone know what driver i should choose for mp160?
[03:34] <ardchoille> jacques: Do you have adept open?
[03:34] <fogwar> how do i view files from a external disk once i plug it in thru terminal?
[03:35] <fogwar> i worded that strangely
[03:35] <jacques> no I closed it
[03:35] <jacques> I used to reboot the computer to fix
[03:35] <fogwar> how do i view files in terminal from an external disk or something, once i plug it in?
[03:35] <ahmed> guys , i am trying to run pcsx2 on ubuntu and i get this error :  libCg.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory, Could not Load GS plugin: plugins/libZeroGSoglr.so.0.96.2
[03:35] <ahmed> i tried googling and came up with this ,, http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-152684.html       plzzz help
[03:35] <jacques> but now i want to know if there is any way to fix it without restarting
[03:36] <ahmed> HELP PLZZ
[03:36] <pag> !fixadept
[03:36] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:36] <ahmed> guyssss
[03:36] <ahmed> ^^
[03:36] <jacques> thx a lot it is fixed
[03:37] <jacques> I have another problem I don't know if someone can help
[03:37] <ardchoille> fogwar: Once you plug in the external hd, you have to mount it and then you can browse files
[03:38] <ardchoille> Jucato: That does sound like it's going to be easier
[03:38] <asfak> freaky, i solved the problem. i disabled the cache from html setting
[03:39] <c1|freaky> ^^
[03:39] <jacques> I am trying to install saga rc3 It is telling me that libsaga.so is can not been find but it is there in usr/lib
[03:40] <fogwar> ardchoille: how do i find the name/location of the external?
[03:40] <fogwar> ardchoille: /SEAGATE?
[03:40] <fogwar> lol
[03:41] <ardchoille> fogwar: You can plug in the external and then, in a terminal, type: tail --lines=20 /var/log/messages
[03:41] <ardchoille> and see if the device is listed and it's location
[03:42] <c0redamage> hi, i have a problem with gcc and KDevelop C/C++ everytime I'm trying to build a Project he exits with status 2 and can't find aclocal, but I'v installed the build essentials Package.
[03:42] <fogwar> interesting
[03:50] <BluesKaj> jacques, find where saga rc3 is located and copy the .so file to the same directory ...
[03:53] <jacques> it is also in the same directory
[03:54] <jacques> I just copied it from there to usr/lib
[04:04] <PeterJB> hi
[04:05] <sercik> someone know how to add debian menu to kde?
[04:05] <sercik> in kde many entry are missing
[04:06] <sercik> i heve tried fluxbox and it shows all
[04:19] <Tired_> How can I make smb more seamless?  I can bring up smb shares in Konq easily but I can't save directly to one in Firefox, for example...
[04:20] <Tired_> is there a way to fake integrating shares into the file system?
[04:21] <llutz> Tired_: smbmount
[04:31] <ForgeAus> is there a firefox extension to do a sidebar that shows the remote filesystem when viewing web pages?
[04:31] <ForgeAus> or one for konqi?
[04:34] <guillermo> anyone having trouble with amsn?
[04:36] <Tired_> anyone really bored and feel lke writing me a short shell script template?
[04:36] <andand> hi can someone please help me get my touchpad working can only use an usb mouse
[04:43] <soulrider_> andand: i think youre gonna ahve to reconfigure xorg
[04:43] <soulrider_> but i have no idea
[04:45] <coolzgeek> how do i start KDM on boot?
[04:46] <ForgeAus> that happens automatically with kubuntu generally
[04:46] <ForgeAus> although if theres some problem with the xserver it may not
[04:46] <Tired_> is there a (horrifically insecure) way to embed an answer to a password challenge into a shell script?
[04:49] <coolzgeek> How do i start KDM on boot
[04:49] <coolzgeek> I boot into shell
[04:49] <coolzgeek> though
[04:50] <chijin> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:50] <dr_willis> kdm is normally a service. how did you disable it?
[04:51] <TooEarly> i've been having a recent problem with my vsftpd. everytime i try to start/stop/restart it, it gives me this error "500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot open config file:" anyone know what the problem is?
[04:53] <andand> thnx
[04:54] <Tired_> I think I figured it out...brb
[04:55] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:01] <mcgregor> hello duds
[05:01] <mcgregor> i have a problem with my dvd
[05:01] <mcgregor> i just bought it
[05:02] <mcgregor> and i don't know how to make it running
[05:02] <mcgregor> can someone help me??
[05:02] <SlimeyPete> is it a video?
[05:02] <mcgregor> no
[05:02] <mcgregor> it is dvd-rw
[05:03] <SlimeyPete> oh... you mean a dvd drive?
[05:03] <mcgregor> yeah
[05:03] <SlimeyPete> does your BIOS recognise it when you boot up?
[05:03] <mcgregor> wait a sec
[05:04] <mcgregor> sorry
[05:04] <mcgregor> i were talking on the phone
[05:04] <mcgregor> i never used a dvd drive on linux
[05:04] <Skunk> if the bios does recognize it, you might have to manually mount it. sometimes kubuntu doesnt auto-mount optical drives
[05:04] <mcgregor> ok
[05:05] <mcgregor> thanks alot dud
[05:05] <Skunk> it would probably be /dev/cdrom0 or /dev/cdrom1 or something of the sort
[05:05] <Skunk> no prob
[05:05] <mcgregor> i will try fix i it
[05:05] <jose-angel> www.terra.es
[05:06] <nosrednaekim> mcgregor: do you know how to manually mount?
[05:06] <mcgregor> nope
[05:07] <mcgregor> man i know how to use  linux but i am not a master
[05:07] <nosrednaekim> well, what kind of DVD is it? is it data?
[05:07] <mcgregor> it's a dvd drive
[05:07] <nosrednaekim> mcgregor: haha... I understand
[05:07] <mcgregor> dvd drive ASUS
[05:08] <nosrednaekim> yeah, I know but what kind of DVD is in it? data? or a movie?
[05:08] <SlimeyPete> mcgregor: you'll need to put a disc in it before kubuntu will auto-mount it, I think?
[05:08] <mcgregor> ok
[05:08] <mcgregor> i shal try that now
[05:08] <mcgregor> thx
[05:11] <mallize> anyone have a cedega promotional code i can use?  i don't mind paying for it, if it works.
[05:11] <neo_> I just installed ubuntu, added kde(so it'll run ubuntu or kubuntu if i want) and was wondering about getting a windows vista theme, i see em all over when i google "kde vista theme" or "kubuntu vista theme", but can't find one that i can install.  does ne1 know where to get one?
[05:13] <ForgeAus> mallize cedega itself does work, but the application your trying to use it for may not
[05:13] <linenoise> mallize: freakin leach
[05:13] <linenoise> mallize: pony up and support the selfless developers.  Don't you have a heart?  A conscience?
[05:14] <mallize> haha
[05:14] <ForgeAus> mallize, I'd listen if I were you people here can be quite serious about FOSS related issues and licencing, etc...
[05:14] <SlimeyPete> I dunno 'bout selfless. They're paid to do it, aren't they? Transgaming is a company...
[05:14] <drkns> hello
[05:14] <SlimeyPete> hi.
[05:14] <ForgeAus> slimey, I think so, and some of the funds go towards wine right?
[05:15] <drkns> i would like to play mov files but kaffeine freezes and wont play
[05:15] <SlimeyPete> ForgeAus: I doubt it
[05:15] <mallize> linenoise is a co-worker..
[05:15] <mallize> lol
[05:15] <SlimeyPete> ForgeAus: I think they contribute some code when they feel like it
[05:15] <rmd_> drkns: get VLC.  far superior
[05:15] <ForgeAus> oh ok... I knew there was some relationship there
[05:15] <drkns> k rmd thx
[05:15] <linenoise> Oh.  There's a relationship.
[05:15] <mallize> i contribute code..... to fix his code
[05:15] <mallize> :))
[05:15] <linenoise> HAH!
[05:16] <guillermo> hello does anyone uses amsn?
[05:17] <ForgeAus> guiller I'm sure some people do
[05:17] <ForgeAus> I just don't happen to be one of them
[05:17] <fogwar> !dmesg
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmesg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <ForgeAus> !info dmesg
[05:18] <ubotu> Package dmesg does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[05:18] <ForgeAus> guess it just isn't feisty enough
[05:18] <fogwar> lol
[05:18] <nosrednaekim> Ash-Fox: there's one on getdeb.com
[05:19] <nosrednaekim> lol.
[05:19] <nosrednaekim> dmesg is FAR too outdated/
[05:19] <Ash-Fox> nosrednaekim, I made two seperate builds specifically for edgy and feisty either way.
[05:19] <ForgeAus> getdeb.com sounds interesting
[05:19] <fogwar> nosrednaekim: ok can u help then? im trying to mount my seagate external HD so i can view the files in terminal, but cant find the name of the drive
[05:19] <spawn57> there's an apt-get.org but that's mostly for debian
[05:19] <JohnFlux_> Riddell: quick, package qt4.3 :-)
[05:19] <fogwar> its called SEAGATE but my gnome partition viewer isnt showing up under admin for some reason, which is another prob im having
[05:19] <nosrednaekim> fogwar: yeah... it doesn't appear in dmesg?
[05:19] <spawn57> linenoise: you and me both, breather
[05:20] <Ash-Fox> And getdeb.com doesn't work
[05:20] <JohnFlux_> Riddell: released today :-)
[05:20] <fogwar> nosrednaekim: how do i view dmesg?
[05:20] <linenoise> spawn, it'll be like aol invading the net all over again
[05:20] <fogwar> nosrednaekim: its called SEAGATE but my gnome partition viewer isnt showing up under admin for some reason, which is another prob im having
[05:20] <nosrednaekim> fogwar: gnome?
[05:20] <guillermo> while playing a movie with kaffeine it only shows a thinline in the middle?
[05:20] <guillermo> i tryed unistalling and intalling again but it does not work
[05:20] <Ash-Fox> Anyhow, if anyone is interested, they're available at: edgy: deb http://packages.quickfox.org/ ubuntu-edgy/     or feisty: deb http://packages.quickfox.org/ ubuntu-feisty/
[05:20] <nosrednaekim> fogwar: "dmesg"on the command line. look at the last lines
[05:21] <ForgeAus> guillermo? what kind of movie? have you tried other movies?
[05:21] <ForgeAus> other codecs?
[05:21] <Jelle> Hi, little question, where can I find the requirements of kubuntu?
[05:21] <guillermo> it is been like that since this morning
[05:21] <linenoise> fogwar: dmesg or possibly look at the end of /var/log/messages
[05:21] <guillermo> i saw the movie yesterday
[05:21] <ForgeAus> does it work on other systems fine? or does it show a thin like there too?
[05:21] <nosrednaekim> Jelle: the system requirements?
[05:21] <guillermo> then this morning i wanted to see another movie, and it didnot work
[05:21] <ForgeAus> ok sounds like you ddid something to corrupt the codec or something
[05:21] <Jelle> indeed nosrednaekim
[05:21] <guillermo> so i tried the same movie i watched yesterday and it did not work either
[05:21] <linenoise> Jelle: what kind of requirements?  I believe the kubuntu site has a list of the hardware necessary.  It's fairly modest.
[05:22] <nosrednaekim> Jelle: I'd say a 700Mhz processor, and at least 256 MB ram.
[05:22] <ForgeAus> guillermo do you have vlc?
[05:22] <Jelle> ow
[05:22] <nosrednaekim> 1ghz would be better
[05:22] <ForgeAus> maybe try installing that?
[05:22] <nosrednaekim> Jelle: go xubuntu if you have less
[05:22] <Jelle> does anyone know a linux for 400MHz?:p (just a new commputer
[05:22] <guillermo> if i make kaffeine run wtih the mebbeded player for kde, then it works, but trying xine engine again, and the line is back
[05:22] <Jelle> ah, xubuntu, lets see
[05:22] <ForgeAus> an/or reinstalling codec packages in Adept
[05:22] <guillermo> yes i do have vlc, but kaffeine works better
[05:23] <guillermo> and the file does work on vlc,
[05:23] <nosrednaekim> Jelle: xubuntu should run like a charm on 400Mhx
[05:23] <nosrednaekim> *mhz
[05:23] <ForgeAus> then reinstall the kaffeine package!
[05:23] <ForgeAus> see if that helps
[05:23] <guillermo> already done that
[05:23] <ForgeAus> something is messed up, either corruption or configuration is screwed
[05:23] <guillermo> =(
[05:24] <guillermo> i did not change the configuration bu it might be that i thaought that uninstalling and reinstalling might get it to default  but it did not
[05:25] <Jelle> ok, I just see how much ram, but I believe you that 400MHz 'll be good, thanks, no just get the computer in one piece:p
[05:25] <hangthedj> guillermo: reconfigure it with dpkg-reconfigure.
[05:26] <guillermo> im new on lnux (a week)
[05:26] <guillermo> i guess that would be a comman line to be run
[05:26] <nosrednaekim> Jelle: how much ram do you have?
[05:26] <DeBert> I want to use two dictionaries at once in KDE, Dutch and English. The switching between languages for spell checking gets annoying after a while. Is this possible, using multiple languages at once?
[05:26] <guillermo> could you be more eplecit so i dont mess things up more
[05:26] <jacques> can someone help me
[05:26] <Jelle> on this moment: none :p
[05:27] <Jelle> just get the PC from a friend, just a mainboard, power supply, CD-reader, and that's it :p
[05:27] <Jelle> no HD, no ram
[05:27] <Jelle> :p
[05:27] <Skunk> jelle: got a question for ya. does it impact system performance if you use 32 bit kubuntu on 64 bit hardware?
[05:27] <jacques> I am having a problem with one of mey softwares
[05:27] <jacques> saga gis
[05:27] <jacques> ./saga_gui: error while loading shared libraries: libsaga_api.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:27] <hangthedj> guillermo: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure kaffeine'
[05:28] <jacques> after installing that is what I am getting
[05:28] <Jelle> no idea Skunk , but I think so
[05:28] <Skunk> heh
[05:28] <nosrednaekim> DeBert: no thats not possble ATM, KDE4 will include that functionality
[05:28] <SlimeyPete> Skunk: no, not really.
[05:28] <Jelle> little bit?
[05:28] <Jelle> :p
[05:28] <llutz> Skunk: if you have more than 4GB RAM maybe
[05:28] <nosrednaekim> Skunk: there is VERY little performance difference
[05:28] <SlimeyPete> Skunk: a 64-bit kernel will run a little faster for some apps but for general desktop usage there won't be any noticeable difference
[05:28] <DeBert> nosrednaekim: Can't wait... :)
[05:29] <Skunk> cool
[05:29] <nosrednaekim> DeBert: neither can I...(but not for the same reason)
[05:29] <guillermo> hangthedj i did that, but it did not work
[05:30] <nosrednaekim> fogwar: did you get it working?
[05:30] <Skunk> i was just wondering because i had accidentally installed the x86 version, i have amd64 lol. and ive noticed even things like xmms are taking up 50% of my cpu at times
[05:30] <nosrednaekim> Skunk: heh
[05:31] <guillermo> it did not work
[05:34] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: whats wrong again?
[05:34] <Skunk> i believe its his dvd drive
[05:34] <guillermo> kaffeine using xine engine
[05:34] <guillermo> it shos a thin line in the middle of the screen while playing a video
[05:35] <guillermo> i reinstalled, reconfigures, both xine engine and kaffeine and stil does not work
[05:35] <nosrednaekim> sorry guillermo could you PLEASE send the problem again?
[05:36] <guillermo> i try to play a video with kaffeine using xine angine, but it only shows a thin line in the middle of the screen, sounds is ok,
[05:36] <guillermo> i have reinstalled, and reconfigured, but no succes
[05:37] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: did you try any other video playing app?
[05:37] <hangthedj> you could always try uninstalling with the --purge command and then reinstalling.
[05:37] <guillermo> yes!. the movie works good on vlc
[05:37] <Skunk> of course. vlc ftw =)
[05:37] <lsproc> vmware-server is ignoring the gtk qt engine thing, so it uses the raeligh engine, how do i make it use the gtk-qt engine?
[05:37] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: is there some reason why you can't use vlc instead of kaffeine?
[05:38] <guillermo> the quality is poor in vlc
[05:39] <guillermo> it hacks in vlc
[05:39] <ForgeAus> you can use dreamscapes for windows using vlc! (just set it to run as bakcground wallpaper)
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: it could be your video acceration thats causing the problems in BOTH.
[05:39] <Skunk> yah it could be
[05:39] <nosrednaekim> what engine (inside xine) are you using?
[05:40] <Skunk> or your video drivers
[05:40] <guillermo> how do i iuse that
[05:40] <guillermo> well i been having a bunch of problems today
[05:40] <guillermo> it might be all of them a corealted???
[05:40] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: what type of video card do you have?
[05:40] <guillermo> here is the list
[05:40] <guillermo> radeon 9600
[05:41] <Skunk> 9600 should be fine. do you have the fglrx driver?
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: yeah, what driver are you using?
[05:41] <guillermo> the login screen is diminute, i can barely see the letters, the after logging in, the font everywhere where diminute aswell, i changed that but the log-in screen is still diminute,
[05:41] <Skunk> if you're using vesa, thats your culprit
[05:41] <sandro__> ciao...a tutti
[05:41] <nosrednaekim> Skunk: lol, I have a junky old Xpress200 and HD even plays fine.
[05:42] <guillermo> when opening amsn, the letters are huge, and i get an error all the time, an error warning that is, with nothing inside,
[05:42] <guillermo> and thet that with kaffeine?
[05:42] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: sounds like some sort of graphics driver problem.
[05:42] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: are you using the fglrx driver?
[05:43] <guillermo> i was cheking that, and yes i am
[05:43] <guillermo> i am gona  try recongigure it
[05:44] <guillermo> the konsole says it is not installed i used the line dpkg-reconfigure fglrx
[05:44] <nosrednaekim>  I don't think its called that....
[05:45] <nosrednaekim> not sure though... see if you have the program "aticonfig"
[05:45] <guillermo> what is it called?
[05:45] <Skunk> type aticonfig in the command line
[05:47] <guillermo> i tyoed that and a menu came up
[05:47] <guillermo> what do i do now?
[05:47] <Skunk> if you do, then try sudo apt-get reconfigure fglrx-driver
[05:48] <Skunk> i believe thats what it was. im trying to check but IE keeps locking up when i go to the ati wiki
[05:48] <guillermo> invalid operation reconfigure, it says
[05:48] <titanix88> hendaus_: :)
[05:49] <Skunk> try completely removing it then start from scratch
[05:49] <guillermo> from adept?
[05:49] <Skunk> lemme get you a link
[05:49] <hangthedj> don't do apt-get reconfigure do dpkg-reconfigure
[05:49] <nosrednaekim> guillermo: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-driver-fglrx"
[05:49] <Skunk> lemme get you a link
[05:51] <savetheWorld> Hi, anyone know of a web page that tells how to set up a cache-only local DNS server ?
[05:51] <Skunk> guillermo: do you have edgy or fiesty
[05:51] <guillermo> i dont remeber
[05:51] <guillermo> 7.04
[05:51] <guillermo> i guess...
[05:51] <nosrednaekim> fiesty
[05:51] <ForgeAus> thats feisty
[05:52] <ForgeAus> 6.10 is edgy
[05:52] <Skunk> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Feisty_Installation_Guide
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> ooh.. wonder what happened there^^
[05:53] <Skunk> just run through the beginning part, and the installing the ubuntu way
[05:53] <dr_willis> Next will be Greasy Gibbon
[05:53] <dr_willis> :)
[05:53] <Skunk> then the configuring
[05:53] <Skunk> dont worry about the manual install
[05:53] <nosrednaekim> gutsy!
[05:54] <nosrednaekim> were not slippery..
[05:55] <savetheWorld> I'm want to set up a cache-only local DNS server on Kubuntu Edgy.  Anyone got any pointers?
[05:55] <llutz> savetheWorld: dnsmasq might what you need
[05:56] <savetheWorld> llutz: what is dnsmasq?   (no man page)
[05:56] <hangthedj> savetheWorld: i just found this searching google.com/linux
[05:56] <hangthedj> http://langfeldt.net/DNS-HOWTO/BIND-9/
[05:56] <llutz> savetheWorld: dnsmasq - A small caching DNS proxy and DHCP server
[05:57] <savetheWorld> llutz: ok.
[05:59] <nosrednaekim> ok, If I have a dependency that I DON"T want to get, but the main package will install and run without it, how do I blacklist that dependency?
[05:59] <Skunk> install webmin on it. then access it by the internal ip port 10000, set up your dns/bind easily in there
[05:59] <savetheWorld> hangthedj: thanks.  I'm hoping to get there via the kubuntu admin tools since the locataions and names of the various administrative/service configuring files vary so much from distro to distro.  That makes it hard for How-To docs to match up to a given release.  With the result that following them cam actually mess up your system
[05:59] <dr_willis> https://localhost:10000  for webmin even - if i recall
[05:59] <savetheWorld> Skunk: was that for me?
[06:00] <Skunk> yah
[06:00] <Skunk> thats how i did mine
[06:00] <savetheWorld> gracias.
[06:00] <Skunk> no prob
[06:02] <savetheWorld> Package webmin is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source E: Package webmin has no installation candidate
[06:02] <savetheWorld> Skunk: what release are you on?
[06:02] <llutz> savetheWorld: webmin was taken from debian long time ago (for good reasons)
[06:03] <savetheWorld> llutz: Ja, I'd not heard to much praise for it.
[06:03] <savetheWorld> doesn't install anyway.
[06:04] <Skunk> im on edgy
[06:04] <Skunk> i installed it fine a while back on ubuntu edgy with the server edition
[06:04] <Jelle> so, just need a harddrive :p
[06:04] <Skunk> try using aptitude instead of apt-get and see if that pulls it up
[06:04] <Jelle> does the live CD need a harddrive?
[06:05] <Skunk> jelle: nope <3
[06:05] <Jelle> o, cool
[06:06] <Ash-Fox> Less than three!
[06:06] <Jelle> then I 've my RAM I can starting to check if it works :)
[06:06] <nosrednaekim> Jelle: how much ram?
[06:06] <Jelle> I hope 256MB
[06:07] <Jelle> don't know what I'll get
[06:08] <kane> On almost every karamba theme i use it always shows my network use as very spikey, like ever sec it drops to zero then back up to whatever it actually is.
[06:08] <kane> What the heck would cause that?
[06:09] <BWolf85> ah guys im so angry right now
[06:11] <savetheWorld> hey!
[06:11] <Skunk> >:3
[06:11] <BWolf85> hey save the world
[06:12] <savetheWorld> BWolf85: yes?
[06:12] <BWolf85> whats wrong skunk
[06:12] <BWolf85> just saying hello
[06:12] <savetheWorld> You'll have to eat your way out.......
[06:13] <BWolf85> guys im angry
[06:13] <Skunk> wolf: why are ya angry?
[06:13] <savetheWorld> BWolf85: what happened?
[06:13] <BWolf85> ive been working so im stuck using winders
[06:13] <BWolf85> have to get my site done
[06:14] <Skunk> heh
[06:14] <Skunk> im stuck in windows right now =(
[06:14] <Skunk> it sucks
[06:14] <BWolf85> yah i wish i was done with my site now...i hate rebuilding hah
[06:15] <Skunk> im at work and IE is completely intergrated into everthing. not only am i in windows, i have to use IE
[06:15] <DJServers> why dont just install a script like phpbb or phpfusion?
[06:15] <BWolf85> what do u mean djservers
[06:16] <DJServers> well i have sites (many) and i just installed a site script like phpfusion: www.phpfusion.co,uk
[06:16] <DJServers> o
[06:16] <DJServers> wrong site
[06:16] <BWolf85> to do what? i have vbulletin
[06:16] <BluesKaj> windows must be tolerated since so many ppl (incuding friends) use it , and in some instances where linux is a bit rough around the edges, windows is needed
[06:16] <lilmurdok> hi
[06:16] <savetheWorld> BluesKaj: Heretic!  :-)
[06:16] <DJServers> well i have jused it for selling thing or just for fun or what ever
[06:16] <lilmurdok> hi all
[06:16] <joshjola2002> please help
[06:17] <BluesKaj> no , just tolerant , savetheWorld :)
[06:17] <lilmurdok> i have a problem
[06:17] <joshjola2002> can someone help compile a driver package
[06:17] <joshjola2002> please help
[06:17] <lilmurdok> ca someone help me
[06:17] <Ar-Pharazon> Hello... I was going to install 32 bit kubuntu instead of 64 bit kubuntu I have, but I'm impatient and I swapped KDE for gnome before doing that.
[06:17] <BWolf85> dj want to tell me an opinion of my site
[06:17] <lilmurdok> please
[06:17] <BluesKaj> jst ask yer question
[06:18] <joshjola2002> or how to run an *.exe file on kubuntu
[06:18] <DJServers> BWolf85: what you mean?
[06:18] <Jucato> !ask
[06:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:18] <joshjola2002> help
[06:18] <joshjola2002> please
[06:18] <BWolf85> give me an opinion of my site so far
[06:18] <DJServers> ok give the link
[06:18] <Jucato> !wine | joshjola2002
[06:18] <ubotu> joshjola2002: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:18] <lilmurdok> i have a problem  with my dvd-writer
[06:18] <Ar-Pharazon> I didn't install 32 bit yet and now I have the Kubuntu splash but the ubuntu login screen... I'm confused.
[06:18] <Jucato> joshjola2002: you will need to install wine
[06:18] <joshjola2002> what's that
[06:18] <BWolf85> DJS: http://www.eightyfiveonline.com
[06:18] <DJServers> just type in console: sudo apt-get install wine
[06:19] <DJServers> ok
[06:19] <lilmurdok> today i buy the dvd-writer
[06:19] <ForgeAus> for windows apps you can often use a virtual machine (like VMware and run windows inside that)
[06:19] <BluesKaj> savetheWorld, well, if that's the case you'll never save the world ...tolerance is a prerquisite
[06:19] <Jucato> joshjola2002: it will allow you to run **some** Windows programs (*.exe files)
[06:19] <lilmurdok> and i dont now what to do
[06:19] <jthomas> look into Seamless Virtualization for running Windows Apps on Windows inside Linux, very cool
[06:20] <Ar-Pharazon> Should I install 32 bit Ubuntu or 32 bit Kubuntu?
[06:20] <joshjola2002> I'm trying to install my drivers for my NIC card
[06:20] <Skunk> pharazon: that depends. do you like gnome or kde?
[06:20] <joshjola2002> I'm confused on how to compile them
[06:20] <Skunk> ubuntu = gnome, kubuntu = kde
[06:20] <BWolf85> i <3 kunbuntu
[06:20] <ennis> hola
[06:20] <Skunk> i less than three it
[06:20] <ennis> hay alguien que hable spaol?
[06:20] <DJServers> BWolf85: Well looks good so far ;)
[06:20] <jthomas> !es |ennis
[06:20] <ubotu> ennis: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:20] <joshjola2002> hey there's no such thing as wine
[06:20] <Jucato> !es | ennis
[06:20] <Ar-Pharazon> I'd like to try gnome first. KDE was a tad overwhelming for a clueless noob.
[06:21] <Jucato> joshjola2002: what are you trying to compile?
[06:21] <BluesKaj> yeah savetheWorld , it went right over my head :)
[06:21] <Ar-Pharazon> But I just apt-get gnome'd and then removed KDE... Does that mean I have ubuntu now? Because it says kubuntu when booting.
[06:21] <jthomas> !splash
[06:21] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[06:21] <Jucato> Ar-Pharazon: install ubuntu-desktop
[06:21] <MaTiAz> Ar-Pharazon: I started with KDE, I got an old Pentium 200MHz when I was like 11 years old, then I installed suse on it, with KDE :) It wasn't so overwhelming :P
[06:22] <Skunk> pharazon: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[06:22] <joshjola2002> please help
[06:22] <joshjola2002> please
[06:22] <joshjola2002> can't figure this thing out
[06:22] <Skunk> joshjola: is it a tar.gz?
[06:22] <Jucato> joshjola2002: what are you trying to do? what are yo compiling?
[06:22] <jthomas> joshjola2002: do you have all of your 'repositories' turned on?  you need them for wine.
[06:22] <savetheWorld> joshjola2002: you have to install wine.  people in here dont lie.
[06:22] <jthomas> !repositories
[06:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:23] <Skunk> josh: ah. sorry bout that
[06:23] <Skunk> yay. sudo apt-get install wine
[06:23] <jthomas> joshjola2002: what is the .exe application that you are trying?
[06:23] <Ar-Pharazon> Well, I guess I'm not as fast a learner...
[06:23] <Ar-Pharazon> So what will "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" do again?
[06:24] <Jucato> Ar-Pharazon: what the bootsplash display doesn't affect what you eventually login to
[06:24] <Jucato> Ar-Pharazon: ubuntu-desktop will install the packages and settings that make up a default Ubuntu installation
[06:24] <BWolf85> is there a website irc channel?
[06:24] <ForgeAus> about that seemless thing jtomas, do you need to be running the vm as well as rdesktop at the same time?
[06:24] <ForgeAus> if so why not just run the vm?
[06:24] <ForgeAus> or do you need two pcs?
[06:24] <jthomas> Ar-Pharazon: it will install Ubuntu, and overwrite the splash screen to use the Ubuntu version, instead of Kubuntu's splash
[06:24] <ForgeAus> I don't get where XP is running to use a Remote desktop to connect to it from
[06:24] <joshjola2002> yup
[06:24] <Ar-Pharazon> Then I dl and install 32 bit ubuntu, correct?
[06:25] <Jucato> Ar-Pharazon: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[06:25] <joshjola2002> it is tar.gz
[06:25] <DJServers> what the uninstall command again i forgot it :P
[06:25] <Skunk> no. apt-getting ubuntu-desktop will install the complete ubuntu gnome system
[06:25] <jthomas> ForgeAus: yes, a VM (in VMWare or in Qemu) and rDesktop; the difference is that it runs just one application and the needed libraries in Windows, rather than all of Windows.
[06:25] <Ar-Pharazon> But it will be 64 bit ubuntu right? I want 32 bit.
[06:25] <jthomas> Ar-Pharazon: if you're running 64 now, it'll install 64.
[06:26] <Jucato> !compile | joshjola2002
[06:26] <ubotu> joshjola2002: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:26] <ForgeAus> hehe I  have all 3 Virtual Box, VMware and Qemu
[06:26] <jthomas> Ar-Pharazon: to switch to 32 you'd need to download a new iso, burn it, and reinstall :(
[06:26] <Ar-Pharazon> I see.
[06:26] <Ar-Pharazon> And cross my fingers and hope and pray to whatever dark god is listening that my windowses will still boot?
[06:26] <jthomas> ForgeAus: try it out, its great!  Install the Windows Human theme for a bit better fit...
[06:26] <DJServers> !uninstall
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:27] <joshjola2002> i'm viewing it
[06:27] <ForgeAus> jthomas, not for KDE
[06:27] <joshjola2002> but i can't figure it out
[06:27] <DJServers> whats the uninstall command again?????
[06:27] <Skunk> sudo apt-get remove package
[06:27] <BluesKaj> seamless virtualization is just a system browser running in a virtual OS ?
[06:27] <joshjola2002> i don't knw what are the switches for gcc
[06:28] <jthomas> ForgeAus: true, but at least its _less_ MS-like...
[06:28] <ForgeAus> hehe I don't mind M$-like
[06:28] <Ar-Pharazon> Ok thanks for the help, I'll be off now.
[06:28] <ForgeAus> but then I'm an equal-opportunity OS enthusiast...
[06:28] <jthomas> lol
[06:29] <ForgeAus> admittedly some are more equal than others lol
[06:29] <jthomas> here you go ForgeAus and BluesKaj: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SeamlessVirtualization
[06:29] <DJServers> !lampp
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <DJServers> !xampp
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <DJServers> omfg
[06:29] <DJServers> !apache
[06:29] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:29] <jthomas> !lamp
[06:30] <ForgeAus> been there jthomas
[06:30] <jthomas> ok
[06:30] <ForgeAus> that also links to the human theme
[06:30] <ForgeAus> I wouldn't tarnish the windows-look with a gnome-look...
[06:30] <ForgeAus> a KDE look for a VM would be interesting tho
[06:31] <Genecks> I can't get my time to change into 12 hours. I don't want military time.
[06:32] <jthomas> Genecks: look in the KDE System Settings.  But its not Military Time in the rest of the world, just in the USA...
[06:32] <jthomas> where everything is military...
[06:32] <ForgeAus> you guys don't use AM/PM?
[06:33] <savetheWorld> ForgeAus: he's kidding
[06:33] <Genecks> We do use AM/PM...
[06:33] <savetheWorld> ForgeAus: I think he's referring to the current assministration in the white house
[06:33] <Genecks> Last time I checked...
[06:33] <Genecks> Last time I saw the sun...
[06:33] <Genecks> lol
[06:33] <jthomas> I am kidding and I am referring to our president, but no i don't use AM/PM
[06:33] <Genecks> Alright, so where in system settings do I go to change this stuff?
[06:33] <ForgeAus> Ante meridian, Post Meridian right?
[06:34] <Genecks> Ah, nevermind.
[06:34] <Genecks> I'll switch my question, because I rather tackle this other problem.
[06:34] <ForgeAus> its actually panel settings
[06:34] <Genecks> I type too fast, and I'm lazy and unethical; I use the caps lock instead of shift.
[06:35] <ForgeAus> not system settings (although I think you can get to panels in there)
[06:35] <Genecks> Is there anyway to speed up my keyboard's interpreation of commands.
[06:35] <ForgeAus> just right click the clock
[06:35] <BluesKaj> jthomas, that doesn't really answer my question...one still has to install another windows os. Im looking for something ,that runs off an existing ntfs partition, in Linux.
[06:35] <Genecks> SOmetimes my capslock doesn't turn off fast enough. See?
[06:35] <jthomas> Genecks: KDE System Settings -> Regional & Language -- set time (am/pm/24) there
[06:36] <ForgeAus> Blues? concurrent OS's?
[06:36] <BluesKaj> Wine works with some things but not all
[06:36] <BluesKaj> yes , ForgeAus
[06:36] <ForgeAus> the more I use computers the more I realize NOTHING works with all!
[06:36] <jthomas> BluesKaj: i have used VMWare from my installed hda1 Windows, but i forgot how and i medded it up once and never went back...
[06:36] <ForgeAus> admittedly I'd like to see MacOSX86 tho....
[06:37] <dr_willis> i got osx running in a vmware session. :)
[06:38] <BluesKaj> not a fan of VM ware and qemu...virtual box is beyond my install abilities and patience, just waaay too clunky
[06:38] <dr_willis> gee . i thought virtualbox was rather trivial to install.
[06:38] <dr_willis> i found vmware worked better for me then Virtualbox however
[06:38] <BluesKaj> well maybe for you
[06:38] <jthomas> BluesKaj: so what are you looking to do?
[06:38] <BluesKaj> difficult for me
[06:39] <basse> Riddell: or here..
[06:39] <dr_willis> Hmm installing vbox was a dpkg -i the package, and set your users to the right group. then logout/back in... oh well..
[06:39] <Genecks> I forgot the three-finger salute
[06:39] <Genecks> Alright, it's working now.
[06:39] <BluesKaj> I'd just like to get some apps like neotrace to work in linux .xtraceroute sucks
[06:39] <Genecks> Domo arigatou gozaimasu.
[06:40] <jthomas> BluesKaj: you want Windows apps, without Wine, without VMWare, without Qemu... why not use Windows?
[06:40] <Genecks> Thank you, very much.
[06:40] <BluesKaj> hehe, jthomas ...I do :)
[06:40] <jthomas> too bad ;)
[06:40] <dr_willis> :)
[06:40] <BluesKaj> jthomas, I wouldn't mind if they worked in Wine
[06:41] <jthomas> no idea
[06:41] <Riddell> basse: hi
[06:41] <jthomas> i've not really used a windows program in a long time, except Spybot about 100x a week...
[06:41] <BluesKaj> it's not a biggie on my agenda anyway , but tit would be nice
[06:41] <dr_willis> run spybot s&d under wine
[06:41] <BluesKaj> it
[06:42] <BluesKaj> nah , why, not needed
[06:42] <jthomas> dr_willis: no, on client computers that, forwhatever reason, use Windows
[06:42] <house> hi everyone
[06:43] <jthomas> hi house!
[06:43] <BluesKaj> be nice if konversation was available on windows
[06:43] <Genecks> Does having multiple desktops take up lots of RAM?
[06:43] <Genecks> I'm using two, because it looks cool.
[06:43] <jthomas> Genecks: define 'a lot'... but i don't think so...
[06:44] <Genecks> By a lot, I mean a large percentage. For instance, does each desktop create its own environment?
[06:44] <dr_willis> Genecks,  it dont work that way
[06:44] <Genecks> How are the environments shared between the operating system? What effect...
[06:44] <BluesKaj> ksysguard, Genecks
[06:44] <dr_willis> now running 2 X instances - can work that way
[06:44] <Skunk> shouldnt take up too much ram. only thing that takes up ram are the programs, apps, and processes. extra desktops are just a place to store stuff :3
[06:44] <dr_willis> but each X instance can be having several virtual desktops
[06:45] <coreymon77> Genecks: not realy, having 4 shouldnt pose any problem
[06:45] <Skunk> always wanted to do that. kde and gnome at the same time <3
[06:45] <coreymon77> Genecks: just dont have 20
[06:45] <dr_willis> Skunk,  rather trivial. :) i done it int he past with vnc so i could see both at same time
[06:46] <Genecks> I think at most I would have 6.
[06:46] <Genecks> I wonder, though, would an automated script being able to run in the background with desktops in the background?
[06:47] <Genecks> be able to run in the background*
[06:47] <Genecks> Would it interfere if I were to browse the Internet?
[06:47] <coreymon77> Genecks: ya, no problem
[06:47] <coreymon77> Genecks: not in the slightest
[06:47] <llutz> Genecks: log into a console, "startx -- :1 vt8"
[06:48] <Genecks> For example, I want to edit some images in GIMP.
[06:48] <bomber> does anyone boot into cli instead of graphical on kubuntu?
[06:48] <Genecks> Over 500 images, to say the least.
[06:48] <Genecks> The way I want to do this is not so easily offered by GIMP's commands, so recently I created a script on WIndows.
[06:49] <savetheWorld> bomber: yes
[06:49] <Genecks> However, when I run that script, it takes command of the keyboard; therefore, I can't really use that computer to browse the Internet.
[06:49] <dr_willis> Genecks,  linux mutitasks loops around wndows...
[06:49] <dr_willis> sounds like you need to work on your script to make it  not do that then. :)
[06:49] <coreymon77> Genecks: kubuntu and the kde desktop environment are designed to work with multiple desktops
[06:49] <dr_willis> or have it in its own terminal window.
[06:50] <bomber> i used to be able to do it but since i upgraded a couple days ago i cant seem to get it to not show me the graphical kubuntu startup
[06:50] <coreymon77> Genecks: they are designed to work with having multiple desktops running
[06:50] <llutz> bomber: sudo update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[06:50] <dr_willis> bomber,  disable the gdm or kdm service is now i do it.
[06:51] <Genecks> i'll be back
[06:51] <coreymon77> Genecks: obviously, the do take up ram, but the amount is extremely miniscule
[06:51] <bomber> thats what i did but its not working this time.. it worked before ... lemme try again
[06:59] <DGMurdockII> hi
[07:01] <DGMurdockII> is there a way to make the taskbar like windows xp?
[07:01] <jovans> is there a daily build of gutsy availib.?
[07:01] <paolo_> hi. i have to install the drivers of a logitech quickcam fusion, which is supported by berlios.de. where can I donwload the associated driver? thnks
[07:02] <Sanne> jovans: you can update daily and get all new built packages
[07:02] <coreymon77> DGMurdockII: why would you want to do that? i got linux because i wanted to get away from windows
[07:02] <jthomas> DGMurdockII: the Kicker?  how would you change it, what would you want differently?  why???
[07:03] <DGMurdockII> well there an easy desktop theme manger
[07:03] <DeadS0ul> jthomas: i made min transperent, and enabled hiiding =D
[07:03] <DeadS0ul> DGMurdockII: yeah, in system settings
[07:04] <jthomas> DGMurdockII: what is your goal?  you could make it small, blue, and useless, sure...
[07:04] <jovans> yes there is a daily build
[07:04] <jovans> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[07:04] <llutz> jovans: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[07:04] <bomber> thanks guys.... it was the menu.lst file..... i have to remove the splash reference in each kernel line... i didnt see it the last i looked.. must have been tired
[07:04] <llutz> too late :(
[07:04] <coreymon77> jthomas: lol
[07:04] <coreymon77> jthomas: more like small blue and bloated
[07:04] <jthomas> lol
[07:05] <Sanne> bomber: if you remove it from the kernel lines manually, it will be back after the next kernel update
[07:05] <DGMurdockII> i mean like a easy theme installer for the stuff you get frum like kde-look.org
[07:06] <coreymon77> what could be easier than just putting the download url into the kde theme manager?
[07:06] <jthomas> coreymon77: using Linspire perhaps? ;)
[07:06] <DGMurdockII> oh that all
[07:06] <coreymon77> DGMurdockII: yup, hats all you gotta do
[07:07] <DGMurdockII> even if it not a full theme
[07:07] <DGMurdockII> just a taskbar
[07:07] <DGMurdockII> brb
[07:07] <fdoving> Sanne, bomber, change the line: '# defoptions=quiet splash' to '# defoptions=' (do not remove the leading #), that will make update-grub not add the options to every kernel on each upgrade.
[07:07] <jthomas> i've never actually used a theme, i 'make' my own, because i too found the theme manager to be confusing to add new ones
[07:07] <paolo_> paolo@paolo-laptop:~/trunk$ sudo insmod uvcvideo.ko
[07:07] <paolo_> insmod: error inserting 'uvcvideo.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module
[07:08] <paolo_> can you help me?
[07:08] <bomber> fdoving:  in the same menu.lst file?
[07:08] <Sanne> fdoving, bomber: yes, that was what I was referring to, thanks
[07:08] <fdoving> bomber: yes.
[07:08] <coreymon77> jthomas: not really, you just click on the install theme button and then copy and paste the download url for the theme you want on kdelook
[07:08] <bomber> sweet.. thanks guys... Sanne it has happed each time i upgraded the kernel
[07:09] <jthomas> for the tgz file?  or the kde-look.org page?  or??
[07:09] <zoohouse> Hello everyone
[07:09] <coreymon77> jthomas: the direct download link to the tgz file
[07:09] <Sanne> bomber: yup :)
[07:09] <jthomas> cool i'll have to test it
[07:09] <jthomas> thanks!
[07:09] <zoohouse> Anyone know of a tool that will take scans of documants and convert it to text?
[07:09] <coreymon77> jthomas: you know, the url that the "downlaod now" button links to
[07:10] <jthomas> coreymon77: yep
[07:10] <coreymon77> jthomas: thats the url
[07:10] <jthomas> coreymon77: is your last name Corey?  do you know a Jacy Corey?
[07:10] <llutz> zoohouse: clara, gocr, ocrad
[07:10] <coreymon77> zoohouse: dont expect it to be any good though
[07:10] <coreymon77> jthomas: nope
[07:10] <jthomas> coreymon77: ok ! :)
[07:11] <zoohouse> llutz: thanks :)
[07:11] <llutz> zoohouse: but remember what coreymon77 said.... :(
[07:11] <coreymon77> zoohouse: dont expect to be getting very good results from them though
[07:11] <coreymon77> zoohouse: because you arent
[07:11] <lorenzo_> ciao
[07:12] <zoohouse> Thats fine
[07:12] <zoohouse> Just want to play around with them
[07:12] <zoohouse> thanks again
[07:12] <dr_willis> i rember fighting with OCR stuff years and years ago. :)
[07:12] <coreymon77> dr_willis: i dont bother
[07:13] <dr_willis> and having to explain to these engineers why they couldent just 'scan' a blueprint and get it into autocad. :)
[07:13] <llutz> zoohouse: http://groundstate.ca/ocr
[07:13] <coreymon77> dr_willis: the type of OCR that will gett you good results
[07:13] <dr_willis> well why it woulent be a CAD drawint. :)
[07:13] <Skunk> yay food time
[07:13] <bomber> fdoving:  is that tick '  supposed to be in there... after  the line like you had?
[07:14] <zoohouse> llutz: thanks, i will check it out now
[07:14] <fdoving> bomber: no.
[07:14] <bomber> ok kewl... thanks a lot
[07:14] <c1|freaky> is there any good tutorial about how to use Beryl/Compiz with Ati Drivers? I have a Laptop with a Ati Mobility x700
[07:14] <coreymon77> dr_willis:  is the type of OCR that consists of a person sitting at a computer with the thing to be OCRed typing the words
[07:15] <ForgeAus> !ati
[07:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:15] <ForgeAus> c1 that should have info on getting ATI drivers for X...
[07:16] <ForgeAus> Beryl/Compiz is simply an installable proggy It isn't really responsible for drivers, etc...
[07:16] <jthomas> has anyone purchased a new Dell with Ubuntu yet?
[07:17] <coreymon77> jthomas: i have a dell that had kubuntu put on it (by me)
[07:17] <jthomas> coreymon77: me too, but i was more wondering about the preinstall
[07:18] <jthomas> the 599 laptop price is nice!  but add a better battery and screen, and suddenly that alone is too much for me :(
[07:20] <jthomas> i wish Dell's back-of-laptop symbol lit up like a Mac laptop does; then the Dellbuntu's could have an Ubuntu logo lit up there :)
[07:20] <jthomas> (or Kubuntu)
[07:21] <CaBlGuY> !MPG
[07:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:21] <stanley_> hi guys...everytime i try opening something that needs root access it says su returned with an error
[07:21] <stanley_> how can i fix that??
[07:21] <jthomas> use 'sudo'
[07:21] <jthomas> !sudo
[07:21] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:21] <coreymon77> stanley_: there is no su in *buntu
[07:21] <coreymon77> use sudo
[07:22] <jthomas> i.e. sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:22] <stanley_> ok coreymon77...but when i click on for example adept package manager
[07:22] <stanley_> it simply says su returned with an error
[07:22] <coreymon77> oh
[07:22] <house> can somebody help me with Debian Etch?
[07:22] <coreymon77> try running apt in konsole
[07:22] <coreymon77> with sudo
[07:23] <fdoving> house: i guess that depends on the problem.
[07:23] <coreymon77> try doing sudo apt-get update
[07:23] <stanley_> ok
[07:23] <coreymon77> see what happens
[07:24] <coreymon77> and hurry, i gotta go soon
[07:24] <house> the problem is that I saw the install snapshots, and there was one Snapshot where they told that I have to enter my network details. But I have dynamic IP.
[07:24] <stanley_> coreymon77 it doesn't work
[07:24] <Sanne> house: I would try asking in #debian.
[07:25] <coreymon77> stanley_: could you be a little more descriptive?
[07:25] <coreymon77> stanley_: hurry
[07:25] <Rocky_> dd
[07:25] <house> okay, I 'll try
[07:25] <stanley_> it simply jumps to a new line
[07:25] <coreymon77> stanley_: that says
[07:25] <coreymon77> nothing?
[07:25] <stanley_> and when i select adept agen it returns the same error message
[07:25] <Rocky_> newbie here
[07:25] <stanley_> just an empty line
[07:25] <stanley_> nothing happens
[07:25] <coreymon77> okay
[07:25] <coreymon77> ask someone else
[07:25] <coreymon77> i gotta go
[07:26] <stanley_> ok thanx anyway
[07:26] <stanley_> can anyone help me with this problem??
[07:26] <stanley_> wheneva i try to open somethign that needs root accesss it says su returned with an error
[07:27] <jacques> How can I enable 3d for my sound card
[07:29] <Rocky_> my dvd only recognizes audio cds! why
[07:30] <Randune> hi all
[07:30] <Randune> I have a quick question
[07:30] <stanley_> someone pleez help me
[07:30] <Randune> is there any way to repair a ntfs filesystem from linux?
[07:30] <stanley_> i cannot use any programs that need root access
[07:30] <Randune> I know it's not specifically kubuntu related..but
[07:30] <Randune> stanley
[07:30] <stanley_> wheneva i try opening them ir returns an error message
[07:31] <stanley_> saying su has returned an error
[07:31] <Randune> you root password is the same as your user password
[07:31] <stanley_> i kno
[07:31] <Randune> via sudo
[07:31] <Randune> k
[07:31] <stanley_> but it doesn't even allow em to enter my password
[07:31] <Randune> are these command line progs?
[07:31] <stanley_> no gui
[07:31] <Randune> I see
[07:31] <stanley_> like adept
[07:31] <Randune> what progs?
[07:31] <Randune> k
[07:31] <Randune> it doesn't prompt you for the admin password?
[07:32] <Randune> hmm...
[07:32] <stanley_> and wheneva i have to use administrator mode in settings
[07:32] <stanley_> no it doesn't
[07:33] <Randune> not quite sure
[07:33] <Randune> hmm..
[07:33] <stanley_> hmm
[07:33] <stanley_> do you kno randune how to clear adept
[07:33] <stanley_> maybe that's the problem
[07:34] <stanley_> i can't remember the code to do so
[07:35] <wxrkny> I am installing Kubuntu for a friend who frequently uses AIM along with several other people who use the computer. Is the any IM program that functions similarly to AIM for Kubuntu
[07:35] <tsdgeos> kopete?
[07:35] <llutz> wxrkny: gaim/pidgin
[07:35] <Skunk> yah
[07:35] <Skunk> kopete and pidgin are the 2 best
[07:35] <wxrkny> all the ones i've checked dont have a simple log off and log on system
[07:35] <Randune> there are many wxrkny
[07:36] <Randune> kopete for instance
[07:36] <Randune> multi-protocol
[07:36] <bomber> kopete is awesome and aim has a linux port now if you want to use aol/microshaft products
[07:36] <stanley_> ok is there anyone else hu can help me??
[07:36] <Randune> not sure stanley
[07:36] <Randune> you couldn't find anything on the forums?
[07:36] <stanley_> ok
[07:36] <wxrkny> i am having issues with the AIM linux port
[07:36] <wxrkny> it wont install
[07:36] <Skunk> the aim linux port is ugly as SIN
[07:36] <Randune> use kopete wrxkny
[07:36] <Randune> you'll probablly be better off
[07:36] <bomber> try kopete then.... its way better
[07:37] <wxrkny> its not for me its for my friend who isnt particularly computer savy
[07:37] <MaTiAz> Hmm
[07:37] <wxrkny> i am fine using GAIM/pidgin
[07:37] <MaTiAz> The Kubuntu installer crashed :D
[07:37] <MaTiAz> What should I do?
[07:37] <Randune> restart it matiaz
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> wxrkny: Kopeter or Pidgin (Gaim)
[07:37] <Randune> try again
[07:37] <Skunk> try again
[07:37] <Skunk> if it doesnt work reboot so it reloads everything then try
[07:37] <wxrkny> but other people are reluctant to learn new software
[07:37] <MaTiAz> Ok
[07:38] <wxrkny> has anyone installed the linux port of AIM
[07:38] <Randune> not I wxrkny
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> oh that...yea you'll have to use alien since its an RPM
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> !alien
[07:38] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> so you'll have to be careful with it
[07:39] <kuzmitch> hi all! first time here so need your help and assistance
[07:39] <Admiral_Chicago> kuzmitch: ask
[07:39] <wxrkny> there is a deb for AIM
[07:39] <Skunk> just apt-get install pidgin
[07:39] <kuzmitch> new to kubuntu. using 7.0
[07:39] <kuzmitch> 7.04
[07:40] <kuzmitch> a have described my problem here , but no reply - too much conversations on this forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=458983
[07:42] <kuzmitch> any suggestions will be great
[07:42] <kuzmitch> whre shoud i dig?
[07:42] <wxrkny> how do i prevent this error "corrupted by being downloaded in ASCII mode" when installing a deb
[07:42] <gianluca> #ubuntu-it
[07:42] <lorenzo__> #ubuntu-it
[07:43] <heiner> Has anybody experience with Tomcat5, Hibernate and spring ?
[07:44] <minty> hi
[07:44] <minty> im having trouble confiuring wine can n e 1 help???
[07:44] <ubuntu_> Yo. Today my Feisty updated the kernel and then I, uh, pulled the power plug |-( . Next thing I know, GRUB says "Error 22: No such partition". Help really appreciated :)
[07:45] <minty> this is error message..... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:46] <minty> any ideas?
[07:46] <logixoul> minty: you have installed g++ from the official repos, right?
[07:47] <minty> errr i havent lol
[07:47] <minty> shall i do so
[07:47] <MaTiAz> minty: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:47] <MaTiAz> That's required for compiling :)
[07:48] <kuzmitch> no ideas obout my problem?
[07:48] <suppaman> MaTiAz: maybe it's the answer I was looking for
[07:48] <logixoul> MaTiAz: heh... wish I had known this earlier... I actually went through all packages looking for ones I'd be needing for building... :)
[07:48] <logixoul> back when I installed kubuntu
[07:49] <MaTiAz> logixoul: Heh, I had that same problem too, but I checked the wiki first ;)
[07:49] <frojnd> hey guys.. This is wery weird. When I play avi file in VLC the sound gets out of the sync.. And that all the sudden and only in VLC player. I tryed to reboot the system, I remove and than install VLC and the sound is still out of the sync and again just in VLC player :S Any ideas how to get rid of that problem. Or is there any other way to unistall VLC and install it again??
[07:49] <logixoul> MaTiAz: ;)
[07:49] <Nuked> whats going on with kopete (12.5)... When I log into ICQ it states that my buddies are offline
[07:49] <K1765> Does anyone know why I get this: ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module. when i try to install nvidia driver
[07:49] <Nuked> even though when I login with pidgin its another situation entirely
[07:49] <logixoul> frojnd: I can't help much, other than suggest that you try another player such as Kaffeine (which uses xine)
[07:50] <suppaman> thanks bye
[07:51] <frojnd> logixoul: this doesn't make any sence at all... VLC wont even play avis that it allready played correct :s
[07:52] <yeniklasor> what is kubuntu's system monitor? Like gnome-system-monitor?
[07:52] <logixoul> ksysguard
[07:52] <yeniklasor> logixoul : thanks
[07:53] <logixoul> np
[07:53] <timmay> anyone know how i can configure firefox to assciate a link to a specific program?
[07:54] <logixoul> timmay: ask in #firefox please
[07:54] <timmay> ty
[07:54] <logixoul> np
[07:55] <logixoul> Guys, today my Feisty updated the kernel but then I pulled the power plug. Now GRUB says "Error 22: No such partition" and doesn't boot Kubuntu. Would you please help?
[07:57] <denisbr> Hello!
[07:57] <Nuked> man no one can help at all
[07:57] <Nuked> ?
[07:59] <Sanne> if nobody here knows an answer to a non-kubuntu specific problem (like logixoul's), try also to ask in #ubuntu, maybe somebody there knows more.
[07:59] <Skunk> and also #debian
[08:00] <kane> how do you add a directory to the path of a user?
[08:00] <Sanne> Skunk: be careful... their topic tells me they may not be so keen on help with *buntu problems.
[08:01] <kane> #debian does not like ubuntu folks, last i checked.
[08:01] <Skunk> true.
[08:01] <Jelle> Little question
[08:01] <Jelle> does Apache works on Xubuntu?
[08:01] <kane> yes.
[08:01] <Dyskolos> Jelle: why shouldnt it?
[08:02] <kane> ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu are all the same thing.
[08:02] <Skunk> debian users vs ubuntu users are like mac users vs pc users
[08:02] <kane> its silly them name them different things.
[08:02] <kane> er they name.
[08:02] <c1|freaky> sorry i got disconnected. my question: with what exnesion does kontakt save its calendar files? (if someone answered please answer again my i had a 24h disconnect from my provider)
[08:02] <Jelle> (I'm a mac user :p)
[08:02] <Skunk> (me too :P)
[08:02] <Jelle> downloading xubuntu.. still
[08:02] <Jelle> :p
[08:02] <kane> i'm a linux user : )
[08:02] <c1|freaky> me too :D
[08:02] <philippon>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <hbo84m>
[08:03] <kane> heh...might wanna change your pass philippon
[08:03] <philippon> hehe yep
[08:03] <neverblue> is .nano_history suppose to be owned by root?
[08:04] <Skunk> heh. i actually have all 3. i have an L shaped desk. i have my linux box, my tv, my mac mini, and my gaming pc all lined up. 2 on each side, tv in the center of the L
[08:05] <philippon> don't now what went wrong though
[08:05] <philippon> ...
[08:05] <Skunk> big desk >>
[08:06] <philippon> anyone now a good dvdplayer for kubuntu?
[08:06] <Skunk> xine or vlcplayer
[08:06] <Skunk> vlc is a lot easier to get set up
[08:06] <kane> kaffiene works well for me.
[08:06] <kane> however the heck you spell it.
[08:07] <philippon> vlc just reads the menues then quits...
[08:07] <kane> course it uses xine as teh backend.
[08:07] <philippon> and kaffeine won't read it at all
[08:07] <logixoul> Sanne: right, thanks
[08:09] <philippon> anyone plz!
[08:10] <Skunk> codec issues?
[08:11] <philippon> for DVD?
[08:13] <kuzmitch> does anyone has problems enabling postprocessing for divx files?
[08:14] <gianluca> #ubuntu-it
[08:15] <PhinnFort> kuzmitch: where?
[08:16] <phishinphree> After a reinstall and upgrade to 7.04, my system has network issues.  I mean it works fine when downloading things but stutters when connecting to it.  for example, when i ssh to the server, it takes 5-10 seconds for it to prompt for a username and about the same amount of time to ask for a password.  Same is true about accessing webpages on the server.  I have ruled out any hardware network issues and problems w/ apache.
[08:16] <phishinphree> its not localized to any one service but effects all inbound services
[08:16] <PhinnFort> phishinphree: ipv6?
[08:16] <PhinnFort> is it enabled?
[08:17] <PhinnFort> you usually don't need it
[08:17] <PhinnFort> !ipv6
[08:17] <phishinphree> it is probably
[08:17] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[08:17] <phishinphree> i imagine its enabled by defauly
[08:17] <PhinnFort> it is
[08:17] <PhinnFort> afaik
[08:17] <kuzmitch> PhinnFort: in kaffeine, mplayer, etc
[08:17] <PhinnFort> see if that help works for you
[08:17] <jthomas> kaffeine is my playa of choice
[08:17] <phishinphree> thankyou, thankyou, thankyou :-)
[08:17] <PhinnFort> Codeine pwns
[08:17] <PhinnFort> kaffeine
[08:17] <PhinnFort> phishinphree: don't thank me until you know if it works;)
[08:18] <kuzmitch> player doesn't matter
[08:18] <phishinphree> lol
[08:18] <kuzmitch> i have strange issues - an dark picturese too buch blocks and artesacts
[08:19] <PhinnFort> kuzmitch: i'll try to enable it here
[08:19] <kuzmitch> and pp numbers (0...6) doesnt sffect
[08:19] <kuzmitch> where?
[08:19] <PhinnFort> on my player
[08:19] <PhinnFort> kuzmitch: where do you enable it?
[08:19] <PhinnFort> under video options in parameters for xine in kaffeine?
[08:20] <kuzmitch> for which player?
[08:20] <PhinnFort> the pp-number is only for mpeg4 playback
[08:20] <PhinnFort> kaffeine
[08:20] <kuzmitch> sec please
[08:20] <PhinnFort> (codeine's config dialog is b0rked, but that's because it isn't used)
[08:20] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:21] <kuzmitch> setting -> xine engipe paremeters -> video -> expert -> postprocessing quality
[08:22] <kuzmitch> the file is divx5
[08:22] <kuzmitch> i guess
[08:23] <kuzmitch> track info -> Video : ISO MPEG-4 (DivX5, ffmpeg)
[08:23] <PhinnFort> http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/screenshots/skjermbilde4.png ?
[08:24] <kuzmitch> sec
[08:24] <PhinnFort> I can't seem to find the option
[08:24] <BlueBird22> is linux good for me if i  msn irc video . i punk my nose on many things.         like  web developement.  ms office. ms front page.   vidoe editing  ,   designing , graphics... many many more.............
[08:25] <jthomas> BlueBird22: punk your nose?
[08:25] <BlueBird22> i mean i do those
[08:26] <kuzmitch> yes, this place
[08:26] <titanix88> hendaus_:
[08:26] <kuzmitch> i have number 6 here
[08:26] <PhinnFort> I do web development (check). I write all my school work in OOo (check). I don't use FrontPage, but I think there's alternatives. And we have kate, the best text editor in the universe. (check). I use inkscape, gimp, krita (check)
[08:26] <PhinnFort> works very well
[08:27] <jthomas> and KDEnlive for good video editing! (new release (0.5) in 2 weeks!)
[08:27] <PhinnFort> :D
[08:27] <PhinnFort> and we have jashake (or something), and cinelerra
[08:27] <PhinnFort> and of course Kino
[08:27] <jthomas> Jahshaka :)
[08:28] <PhinnFort> for video editing
[08:28] <jthomas> but its a pain, i don't get it!!
[08:28] <PhinnFort> JahShaka
[08:28] <PhinnFort> is it stable?
[08:28] <jthomas> and Kino
[08:28] <jthomas> and PiTiVi
[08:28] <PhinnFort> and Blender
[08:28] <Skunk> anybody know of any good audio recording/editing while we're on that subject?
[08:28] <Skunk> apps*
[08:28] <kuzmitch> i'll show you the resulting picture
[08:28] <PhinnFort> Skunk: krec?
[08:28] <Skunk> thats not audacity =P
[08:28] <PhinnFort> audacity?
[08:28] <PhinnFort> :D
[08:29] <PhinnFort> Skunk: look into what the ubuntustudio people included
[08:29] <Sanne> Skunk: take a look at ardour also, often mentioned by musicians.
[08:29] <Skunk> cool
[08:29] <PhinnFort> http://www.jesusonic.com/soft.php
[08:29] <PhinnFort> :D
[08:29] <titanix88> Skunk: audacity for GNU/linux.
[08:30] <arbuzzz> Hi all. Some body speak russian?
[08:30] <PhinnFort> !ru | arbuzzz
[08:30] <ubotu> arbuzzz:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:30] <arbuzzz> 
[08:30] <PhinnFort> welcome
[08:30] <BlueBird22> is linux good for me if i  msn irc video .        like  web developement.  ms office. ms front page.   vidoe editing  ,   designing , graphics... many many more.............
[08:30] <Skunk> o.o
[08:30] <Skunk> *just checked out ardour*
[08:30] <PhinnFort> BlueBird22: Yes.
[08:30] <Skunk> im installing that as soon as i get home
[08:31] <Sanne> Skunk: :)
[08:31] <PhinnFort> does it use jack?
[08:31] <BlueBird22> PhinnFort is it better than windows even?
[08:31] <titanix88> !bn|
[08:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bn - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:31] <PhinnFort> BlueBird22: in my not so humble opinion, yes
[08:31] <titanix88> !bn | 
[08:31] <BlueBird22> PhinnFort in my not so humble opinion ?
[08:32] <PhinnFort> BlueBird22: I'm not that humble
[08:32] <PhinnFort> (even a christian has his limits)
[08:32] <BlueBird22> PhinnFort what do you mean ? sory i didnt got ya
[08:32] <jovans> so i have burned the gutsy alternate image i am going now to test it
[08:32] <jthomas> Wired for music also, very cool
[08:32] <PhinnFort> BlueBird22: Yes, I believe that Linux and KDE is better than proprietary counterparts, but that is my personal opinion
[08:33] <BlueBird22> ok
[08:33] <kuzmitch> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/kuzmitch/screenshot.png
[08:33] <PhinnFort> :D
[08:33] <PhinnFort> kuzmitch: is that your boyfriend, or something?
[08:33] <kuzmitch> PhinnFort: see all those blocks?
[08:33] <jovans> are there problems to install feisty packages on gutsy?
[08:33] <kuzmitch> no
[08:33] <PhinnFort> kuzmitch: sorry, it seems rather normal to me?
[08:33] <kuzmitch> this it sthe screen from movie "the fountain"
[08:34] <PhinnFort> ah, I knew I had seen that fella somewhere before
[08:35] <PhinnFort> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/snd/snd/snd.html
[08:35] <PhinnFort> "modeled loosely after Emacs and an old, sorely-missed PDP-10 sound editor named Dpysnd"
[08:35] <jthomas> kuzmitch: i only see a black square on the photobucket site...
[08:36] <PhinnFort> jthomas: adjust your monitor?
[08:36] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:36] <jthomas> hmmm... a nose?
[08:37] <jthomas> no better shots in that movie? :P
[08:37] <Sanne> jovans: you are aware that gusty is by far not stable yet?
[08:37] <jovans> i am going to testing it only
[08:37] <PhinnFort> Sanne: do you think people will wait for stuff to be stable?
[08:37] <Sanne> jovans: ok, just checking ;)
[08:37] <jovans> where is the problem i do not use for daily work
[08:37] <PhinnFort> Sanne: think about when kde 4.0 comes;)
[08:37] <Sanne> PhinnFort: it was just a warning, in good intention
[08:38] <Sanne> jovans: no problem, no offense meant
[08:38] <PhinnFort> Sanne: I was just making an observation on humans in general;)
[08:38] <brandon_> whats up everyone
[08:38] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:38] <Sanne> PhinnFort: with that, you're right, of course ;)
[08:38] <brandon_> first time ubuntu user.
[08:38] <PhinnFort> brandon_: a tp-cable
[08:38] <PhinnFort> brandon_: it's hanging just over my head
[08:38] <brandon_> PhinnFort - ?
[08:39] <PhinnFort> brandon_: you asked what was up, and when I look up I see a grey TP-cable
[08:39] <brandon_> lol..
[08:39] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:39] <brandon_> how ya doing today?
[08:39] <PhinnFort> kinda fine, actually
[08:39] <BluesKaj> I see rain clouds
[08:39] <PhinnFort> I'll soon have to go to work, though
[08:39] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: you outside?
[08:39] <brandon_> me to PhinnFort. I worked from 8-2. Now I gotta work from 7 to 7. :(
[08:40] <PhinnFort> :(
[08:40] <BluesKaj> nope, my setup by a window
[08:40] <brandon_> working 2 jobs majorly sucks when one is a 12 hr shift.
[08:40] <PhinnFort> well, it's not paid work I'm going to, so it feels a tad bit better
[08:40] <brandon_> nah, I cant do any kind of labor for free
[08:40] <brandon_> money or drugs
[08:40] <PhinnFort> brandon_: what kind of work?
[08:40] <brandon_> one of the two.
[08:40] <PhinnFort> ;)
[08:41] <brandon_> PhinnFort. Well I work at a cd manufactoring place (audio and DVD) for the 12 hr shifts 7 to 7. and my dad owns a small plumbing repair business I work with im a couple hours a day before I go to work and on my days off I work with him usually 8 hrs a day
[08:41] <PhinnFort> brandon_: sounds like fun...
[08:42] <Skunk> wow
[08:42] <brandon_> Its alright man. The CD place is actually pretty cool. I work in the packaging department. All I do is read the work order and shrink or bubble wrap the order and put it on the right pallet, after the order is finished I move it no big deal.
[08:42] <BluesKaj> brandon_, ya need a alife outside of work ...WTH are you doing chatting in here ? :)
[08:42] <Skunk> thats almost as bad as my schedule
[08:42] <PhinnFort> brandon_: doesn't sound to bad, though
[08:42] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:42] <brandon_> it can be a pain in the ass when alot of orders arent finished and you are running out of space to put stuff.
[08:42] <fdoving> !offtopic :)
[08:42] <PhinnFort> heh
[08:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about offtopic :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:42] <brandon_> Nah its alright, especally when I got help :)
[08:42] <fdoving> !offtopic
[08:42] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:42] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[08:42] <fdoving> :)
[08:43] <BluesKaj> fdoving, you need a life too :)
[08:43] <brandon_> BluesKaj: I got tired of using Microsoft products. So I decided to give linux a try. Just playing around and seeing whats up with it.
[08:43] <brandon_> cant get my sound to work yet though. :(
[08:43] <PhinnFort> BluesKaj: ubotu is who needs a life
[08:43] <K-Ryan> brandon_ It's so much better
[08:43] <BluesKaj> cool brandon_
[08:43] <fdoving> BluesKaj: no. i don't :)
[08:43] <brandon_> Yeah, it seems a hell of a lot better already. And I havent even been using it but maybe a week.
[08:43] <K-Ryan> !offtopic | fdoving
[08:43] <ubotu> fdoving: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[08:43] <brandon_> I just wish I could get my sound to work.
[08:44] <K-Ryan> Laptop user?
[08:44] <brandon_> nah, desktop pc.
[08:44] <PhinnFort> brandon_: turned on the speakers?;)
[08:44] <brandon_> lol yeah
[08:44] <brandon_> and they are even plugged in to bro
[08:44] <K-Ryan> Ah, there are some issues flating around with sound, out of the box, not that they won't work at all.
[08:44] <brandon_> ;)
[08:44] <PhinnFort> (that is the most common reason when sound doesn't work on linux here;))
[08:44] <K-Ryan> *floating
[08:44] <PhinnFort> brandon_: :P
[08:44] <jakub_> hi all, how can i use TRACERT in lin
[08:44] <PhinnFort> jakub_: tried traceroute or tracepath?
[08:45] <Skunk> if youre using alsa for your sound system, in the command line try typing alsamixer
[08:45] <PhinnFort> jakub_: we don't have crippled, stupid names here, you see;)
[08:45] <titanix88> hendaus_:
[08:45] <Skunk> s'what happened with my pc. turned it all the way up, never had to worry about it again and used kmix
[08:45] <brandon_> Skunk: I don't know what I am using for sound. This is like my second day using ubuntu.
[08:45] <brandon_> I have to keep checking to make sure I am even spelling it correctly.
[08:45] <brandon_> lol
[08:45] <PhinnFort> brandon_: probably ALSA
[08:45] <BluesKaj> brandon_,make sure alsamixer inputs are unmuted
[08:45] <K-Ryan> brandon_: Try it in the terminal
[08:45] <brandon_> well. how do I check?
[08:46] <K-Ryan> Type in alsamixer in the termina
[08:46] <K-Ryan> l
[08:46] <brandon_> how do I get to the 'terminal'
[08:46] <brandon_> ?
[08:46] <jakub_> i tried but i will do it once again just to be sure
[08:46] <K-Ryan> Terminal is Konsole
[08:46] <PhinnFort> brandon_: System menu -> Konsole
[08:46] <Skunk> brandon: click on the k icon on the task bar, click on system settings, then sound system
[08:46] <K-Ryan> KDE Menu > System > Konsole
[08:47] <jakub_> tracepath is what i wonted THX a lot
[08:47] <K-Ryan> Referred to usually as the terminal because afaik not everyone uses Konsole.
[08:47] <goban> hi, whats a "display manager" and the difference between kdm and gdm
[08:47] <brandon_> i dont see a konsole
[08:47] <PhinnFort> jakub_: uw;)
[08:47] <K-Ryan> bradon_: In the "start menu" then under System
[08:47] <PhinnFort> brandon_: just hit ALT+F2, and type in konsole and hit enter
[08:47] <Skunk> yah there we go. do what phinn said
[08:47] <brandon_> i found sound perferences
[08:47] <brandon_> preferences*
[08:47] <PhinnFort> (there's a million ways to do it)
[08:48] <brandon_> sound capture: is ALSA
[08:48] <Skunk> yay
[08:48] <K-Ryan> Hey if you had a different terminal program, do you think you could open Konsole from it? =)
[08:48] <PhinnFort> brandon_: now get yourself a konsole
[08:48] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: yeah, why not?
[08:48] <brandon_> k
[08:48] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: try opening xterm and run konsole from it
[08:49] <K-Ryan> Opening a terminal program from a terminal program?
[08:49] <K-Ryan> It's funny =P
[08:49] <brandon_> it said could not open file://Konsole
[08:49] <K-Ryan> Strange...
[08:49] <K-Ryan> You're on Kubuntu right?
[08:49] <brandon_> ubuntu
[08:49] <brandon_> 7.04
[08:49] <Skunk> aah
[08:49] <K-Ryan> Well there's your problem.
[08:50] <K-Ryan> You have a different program for the terminal.
[08:50] <brandon_> !!! :(
[08:50] <PhinnFort> brandon_: small first letter
[08:50] <K-Ryan> And you're in the Kubuntu channel =P
[08:50] <PhinnFort> "konsole"
[08:50] <brandon_> but its still fixable though right.
[08:50] <K-Ryan> Yeah
[08:50] <K-Ryan> Try #ubuntu
[08:50] <PhinnFort> ah...
[08:50] <K-Ryan> They'll be able to help you better
[08:50] <Skunk> yah
[08:50] <Skunk> ubuntu = gnome and gnome apps kubuntu = kde and kde apps
[08:50] <brandon_> still doesnt work with konsole.
[08:50] <PhinnFort> KDDDDEEEEEE pwns
[08:51] <goban> whats a display manager and the difference between kdm and gdm
[08:51] <PhinnFort> brandon_: that's because it isn't konsole, when you're using plain ubuntu
[08:51] <PhinnFort> goban: kdm is better
[08:51] <goban> thansk
[08:51] <K-Ryan> goban: kdm is the K Desktop Environment, gdm Is the Gnome Desktop Environment
[08:51] <PhinnFort> K-Ryan: I just didn't catch that he used ubuntu before it was too late
[08:52] <titanix88> brandon_: appliction->accessories->terminal
[08:52] <K-Ryan> It's just the style of menus
[08:52] <goban> ahhh i thought that was windows manager
[08:52] <PhinnFort> ah...;)
[08:52] <PhinnFort> goban: it manages your log in
[08:52] <brandon_> I have the terminal open
[08:52] <brandon_> Its a command prompt
[08:52] <PhinnFort> goban: it's the one that asks you for password and username
[08:52] <K-Ryan> Yes brandon_
[08:52] <PhinnFort> brandon_: type alsamixer and hit enter
[08:52] <K-Ryan> Type alsamixer
[08:52] <brandon_> alsamixer
[08:52] <brandon_> k
[08:52] <brandon_> brb
[08:53] <PhinnFort> i bet you will;)
[08:53] <brandon_> WOW
[08:53] <brandon_> thats COOL
[08:53] <brandon_> ;)
[08:53] <PhinnFort> :P
[08:53] <brandon_> but i dont understand what im looking at
[08:53] <brandon_> lol
[08:53] <brandon_> !
[08:53] <K-Ryan> The terminal is awesome
[08:53] <brandon_> it says Card: Riptide
[08:53] <brandon_> thats the kind of sound card I have.
[08:53] <PhinnFort> brandon_: try manouvering with the arrows right/left and mute/unmute with "m"
[08:53] <K-Ryan> Should be =P
[08:53] <PhinnFort> i think
[08:53] <brandon_> kbrb
[08:54] <PhinnFort> !towel
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about towel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <brandon_> well in the taskbar
[08:54] <brandon_> it says PC Speaker: Muted
[08:55] <brandon_> i never noticed that before.
[08:55] <PhinnFort> ;)
[08:55] <brandon_> I cant get it to unmute though.
[08:55] <PhinnFort> hum
[08:55] <Skunk> driver issue.
[08:55] <PhinnFort> brandon_: well, you should try in #ubuntu
[08:55] <Arwen> #ubuntu reduces your intelligence...
[08:55] <titanix88> brandon_: right click on the icon & select unmute.
[08:55] <brandon_> k
[08:55] <brandon_> brb
[08:56] <brandon_> now it says PC Speaker: 100%
[08:56] <brandon_> where can I see if it works or not
[08:56] <PhinnFort> gnome is suffering from retardiation
[08:56] <brandon_> I have nothing on this harddrive
[08:56] <PhinnFort> brandon_: I think you should have a folder with demo files in your home folder
[08:57] <brandon_> what type of file should I be looking for. I know windows is .wav and .midi, .wma
[08:57] <PhinnFort> brandon_: one with a soundish icon?
[08:57] <brandon_> I know nothing about linux PhinnFort. and I do appricate the help everyone!
[08:57] <titanix88> brandon_: u will find some .ogg files in ur home->Examples
[08:57] <brandon_> k lemme see if I can navigate my way back to it.
[08:57] <brandon_> oh yeah I seen those last night (.ogg)
[08:57] <PhinnFort> and speex and all goodness
[08:58] <Arwen> Speex rules :-P
[08:58] <brandon_> places -> computer
[08:58] <PhinnFort> :D
[08:58] <Arwen> PhinnFort, that doesn't say much... is it MP3 in an OGG container?
[08:58] <PhinnFort> Arwen: ogg vorbis, mkay?
[08:58] <Arwen> PhinnFort, better :-)
[08:59] <titanix88> brandon_: places->Home folder
[08:59] <hendaus_> wb titanix88 :)
[08:59] <brandon_> nah no sound. :(
[08:59] <huz> hello. I've got no /dev/parport0 (kernel 2.6.20-15-generic). modules parport and parport_pc are loaded. any ideas?
[08:59] <PhinnFort> huz: dmesg
[09:00] <titanix88> hendaus: 8)
[09:00] <DraxNS> ahem... I need help with this tutorial
[09:00] <DraxNS> http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[09:00] <Sanne> brandon_: I have also muted pc speaker, but turned up master and pcm (at the beginning of alsamixer)
[09:00] <DraxNS> when I issue sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.35.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty
[09:00] <K1765> Why does it say this when i try to install a nvidia driver, ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module.
[09:00] <DraxNS> I get MD5 error
[09:00] <BluesKaj> no mp3 for me...old school , nothing but lossless audio on my pc... compression makes percussion sound flangy and unreal  and includes keyboards like piano etc
[09:01] <huz> PhinnFort; parport: PnPBIOS parport detected (dmesg | grep parport)
[09:01] <brandon_> PhinnFort. I appricate the help man Im gunna go burn a joint and see what I can come up with ;)
[09:01] <Sanne> brandon_: I have also muted pc speaker, but turned up master and pcm (at the beginning of alsamixer)
[09:01] <DraxNS> BluesKaj: was that you who recommended this tutorial? http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[09:01] <Arwen> BluesKaj, fortunately, I don't suffer from golden ears syndrome :-\
[09:01] <BluesKaj> yes DraxNS
[09:02] <DraxNS> when I issue sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.35.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty
[09:02] <DraxNS> I get MD5 error
[09:02] <cj_> hi guys, has anyone had a problem playing encrypted dvds after installing libdvdcss2? i get a stream of errors and can only terminate the process with a SIGKILL. just wondering if it's a known issue?
[09:02] <Arwen> DraxNS, that means your download is corrupt
[09:02] <DraxNS> I have downloaded newer ati driver
[09:02] <DraxNS> 8.36.5
[09:02] <DraxNS> is that the reason?
[09:03] <titanix88> brandon_:right click the volume icon & select "open vol control"
[09:03] <BluesKaj> could be DraxNS , but the tutorial should get rid of it, however to be safe, remove it if installed.
[09:04] <DraxNS> I would hate to download another 50MB
[09:04] <BluesKaj> the new ati proprietary driver is broken on feisty if you want 3D
[09:04] <DraxNS> no... not installed.. and I have deinstalled fglrx driver from repo also
[09:04] <K-Ryan> uninstalled =)
[09:04] <Arwen> BluesKaj, no it's not
[09:04] <Arwen> it works for me...
[09:05] <DraxNS> I know... that is why I have gone to that URL
[09:05] <Skunk> question: anybody know if the radeon x1900 has problems in edgy like it does in fiesty? i wanna try installing xgl but i dont want to fubar my system like fiesty did
[09:05] <BluesKaj> Arwen, 3D , direct rendering , or is it beryl ?
[09:05] <Arwen> BluesKaj, no, it all works here
[09:06] <Arwen> a lot of people have issues trying to make the kernel module load, but that problem's been around since the beginning of time
[09:06] <BluesKaj> ATI x200 on board card , Arwen ?
[09:06] <Arwen> BluesKaj, oh... no, lol - those suck
[09:06] <titanix88> k-Ryan: what net connection? or just kidding?
[09:06] <Arwen> not that mine's any better, but..
[09:07] <BluesKaj> well, that's what we're dealing with here , Arwen ...they may suck in your opinion but there is a work around patch for them
[09:07] <K-Ryan> titanix88: I'm serious, single downloads of up to about 1500Kb/s and multiple downloads of lower speeds adding up to near 2Mb/s
[09:07] <Arwen> BluesKaj, ok, I'll leave myself out... just that when you say "the latest driver is completely broken", that's a little misleading
[09:07] <BluesKaj> idin't say "completely"
[09:08] <titanix88> K-Ryan: OMG!!!i got 4.1kbps.
[09:08] <DraxNS> much things are broken on Feisty.... shame
[09:08] <BluesKaj> broken for 3D in feisty
[09:08] <K-Ryan> I haven't had a problem yet
[09:08] <Arwen> BluesKaj, uh... maybe on your system..
[09:08] <PhinnFort> hickupless
[09:08] <Arwen> we'll be happy to help you if you want, lol
[09:08] <K-Ryan> Aye
[09:09] <BluesKaj> DraxNS, you didn't copy the tutor's xorg file did you ?
[09:09] <DraxNS> no...
[09:09] <BluesKaj> good !
[09:09] <DraxNS> did not get to that...
[09:09] <BluesKaj> :)
[09:09] <DraxNS> I am at package build
[09:09] <DraxNS> and .. as I said... MD5 is bugging me
[09:10] <PhinnFort> md5 is broken
[09:10] <Arwen> DraxNS, MD5 is an integrity check.
[09:10] <Arwen> if it doesn't work, it means your download is broken
[09:10] <DraxNS> damn
[09:10] <DraxNS> 50mb... again...
[09:10] <PhinnFort> DraxNS: curse your ISP?
[09:10] <dragan> YES
[09:10] <Arwen> PhinnFort, that doesn't disprove my statement
[09:10] <Arwen> the only way to get a bad sum is to have bad data
[09:10] <dragan> now I am at another one
[09:11] <Arwen> that doesn't imply that having a good sum means good data
[09:11] <PhinnFort> Arwen: no, it was just an interesting fact
[09:11] <DraxNS> bye from this one ;-)
[09:11] <BluesKaj> the way i got it to work , i just used the fglrx driver provided by feisty in system settings , then i ran thru the tutorial and rebooted and it works for me now .
[09:11] <killermach> I have fiesty and when I ssh into my box I sshd doesn't seem to forward ports, anyone had this issue yet? I'm using putty from a winbox and it works to my other linux box
[09:11] <Arwen> PhinnFort, hehe, well, to be fair, you can't ever have unique sums for every multi-megabyte file unless they're equal or larger than the file you're summing
[09:11] <Arwen> simple logic
[09:11] <BluesKaj> the fesity driver is replaced by a patched older driver, DraxNS
[09:12] <PhinnFort> Arwen: I know, but it's even worse that what they thought when they designed MD5
[09:12] <PhinnFort> ;)
[09:12] <Arwen> DraxNS, yes, the safe and easy way is to use the repository driver
[09:12] <killermach> AllowTCPForwarding is supposed to be yes by default in man sshd_config, but I explicitly added it to try to fix
[09:12] <Arwen> PhinnFort, that's why we have SHA1 these days
[09:12] <MrPan> how to install truetype fonts in Kubuntu 7.04 ?
[09:12] <DraxNS> yes but it does not work well Arwen
[09:12] <PhinnFort> Arwen: well, people need to start using it too
[09:12] <Arwen> MrPan, copy them to the font folder...
[09:12] <PhinnFort> :P
[09:12] <jthomas> MrPan: in the KDE Control Center, Fonts
[09:12] <Arwen> PhinnFort, bittorrent does :-P
[09:13] <PhinnFort> MrPan: "fonts:/" in Konqueror
[09:13] <jthomas> MrPan: rather, System Settings
[09:13] <PhinnFort> Arwen: well, I meant for packaging
[09:13] <Arwen> meh :-\
[09:13] <jthomas> MrPan: rather, System Settings > Appearance > Font Installer
[09:13] <Arwen> the real point of it isn't security, it's preventing the installation of corrupt packages
[09:14] <PhinnFort> Arwen: well, I thought the security was handled by gpg signatures?
[09:14] <Arwen> PhinnFort, yes.
[09:14] <Arwen> the md5sum just verifies that nothing's blatantly broken
[09:14] <DraxNS> well numbers are way off
[09:15] <PhinnFort> seems like unnecessary work to me
[09:15] <MrPan> jthomas, PhinnFort thanks
[09:15] <Genecks> I need help.
[09:15] <Arwen> PhinnFort, meh :-\
[09:15] <Arwen> anyway, we're digressing
[09:15] <PhinnFort> MrPan: yw;)
[09:15] <Arwen> !ask | Genecks
[09:15] <ubotu> Genecks: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:15] <Genecks> !ask | Genecks
[09:16] <dragan_> sh ./ati-driver-installer-8.36.5-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/feisty
[09:16] <dragan_> Created directory fglrx-install.gB6933
[09:16] <dragan_> Verifying archive integrity...Error in MD5 checksums: 40465b4eb43189cd810e22c9e14741de is different from 3cf190dca35be845dccacf6ab5c7ff1f
[09:16] <hendaus> titanix88:  brb..
[09:16] <K-Ryan> Hey where does "sudo" and "kdesu" come from?
[09:16] <Genecks> I have this Konqueror program.
[09:16] <Genecks> It loads up with locate:vlc each time I login
[09:16] <Arwen> dragan_, again.... YOUR FILE IS BROKEN, STOP ASKING.
[09:16] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: kdesu gives another user x priveliges
[09:16] <Genecks> The last time I looked for vlc was when I was trying to find the program itself to make firefox use it for playing files
[09:17] <titanix88> hendaus: gnokii working?
[09:17] <Arwen> K-Ryan, what do you mean?
[09:17] <Genecks> I never did accomplish that task
[09:17] <K-Ryan> Like...
[09:17] <Arwen> !su | K-Ryan
[09:17] <ubotu> K-Ryan: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[09:17] <K-Ryan> I know what the commands do
[09:17] <dragan_> ok.. just pasting info... dont kil me ;-)
[09:17] <Genecks> However, Konqueror keeps loading up that locate thing each time I login
[09:17] <K-Ryan> But why are they called what they are called
[09:17] <Genecks> How do I stop it from loading on login?
[09:17] <titanix88> Genecks: vlc is great!
[09:17] <Arwen> K-Ryan, sudo = "superuser do"
[09:17] <Arwen> kdesu = "kde su"
[09:17] <K-Ryan> Ah
[09:17] <Arwen> su = "switch user/superuser"
[09:18] <ubuntu_> hello people
[09:18] <K-Ryan> Thanks, I was just wondering about that...
[09:18] <Arwen> ubuntu_, bye :-)
[09:18] <K-Ryan> Hi there ubuntu_
[09:18] <ubuntu_> i am installing kubuntu and changing the settings on-the-fly. will these changes be active after the installation on the hardisk as well?
[09:18] <Genecks> How do I stop it from loading on login?
[09:18] <crdlb> ubuntu_, no
[09:18] <K-Ryan> Settings of programs?
[09:18] <K-Ryan> No ubuntu_, you'll have to do them again.
[09:18] <Arwen> Genecks, have you checked in ~/.kde/Autostart?
[09:18] <ubuntu_> K-Ryan: of anything
[09:18] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: no
[09:18] <K-Ryan> The only thing that will affect the installation, is the installer, so everything else you do won't be there.
[09:18] <Genecks> Where is that folder?
[09:19] <Arwen> Genecks, ~ means your home folder
[09:19] <Arwen> so it's ".kde/autostart" in your home
[09:19] <Genecks> i have no such folder
[09:19] <Arwen> you might have to turn on showing hidden folders/files
[09:19] <Genecks> in my home
[09:19] <Arwen> Genecks, it's hidden by default
[09:19] <K-Ryan> You do Genecks, see Arwen's message =)
[09:19] <titanix88> Genecks: try "show hidden files"
[09:19] <ubuntu_> ok. another question is: what's the default runlevel after the installation? i installed kubuntu, ran the system management tool, changed the services, but the changes didn't have any effect. i thought the runlevel was 5, but i could confirm this, since there's no /etc/iniitab <-- where is it?
[09:20] <K-Ryan> you can type this in your konsole
[09:20] <ubuntu__> hello
[09:20] <K-Ryan> "kdesu konqueror .kde/autostart
[09:20] <K-Ryan> Hi ubuntu__
[09:20] <DraxNS> ok.... new download started :-)
[09:20] <Arwen> K-Ryan, err, you don't need kdesu to edit your own files
[09:20] <Genecks> Alright, I see the folder
[09:20] <ubuntu_> *could not confirm..
[09:20] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: I believe it is 5
[09:20] <titanix88> ubuntu_:2
[09:20] <Genecks> I see a file called .directory
[09:20] <K-Ryan> Arwen don't you need kdesu to open graphical apps?
[09:20] <ubuntu_> hmm 2 or 5?
[09:20] <Arwen> K-Ryan, no, you need it to open them as *root*
[09:20] <ubuntu_> however there must be a bug after the installation
[09:21] <K-Ryan> You can just type konqueror .kde/autostart ?
[09:21] <Arwen> ya
[09:21] <Genecks> Or I could do whatever works, which did work; and I am there.
[09:21] <DraxNS> found correct one... 8.35.5 ;-)
[09:21] <titanix88> ubuntu_:check kcontrol->services
[09:21] <DraxNS> even bigger... 54.7 mb
[09:21] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: yep!
[09:21] <ubuntu_> i checked both /etc/rc2 , 3, 4, 5... the scripts were not in these dirs, however at start up, the system still started some scripts which I disabled at all.
[09:21] <ubuntu__> now i'm installing kubuntu
[09:21] <ubuntu_> titanix88: that is what i did
[09:22] <Genecks> I don't know what to do.
[09:22] <ubuntu_> have you ever noticed my problem?
[09:22] <Genecks> NO.
[09:22] <mcgregor> cheers to all!!me again!!could someone help me ?i have some problems with my dvd drive.i just bought it and i don't know how to mount it
[09:22] <ubuntu_> weird
[09:22] <ubuntu_> i am going to do another installation
[09:22] <DraxNS> mcgregor: put something in drive :-)
[09:22] <ubuntu_> of the system
[09:22] <Genecks> Ok, that should work.
[09:22] <Genecks> I should do that, too.
[09:23] <Genecks> I was just thinking about doing that to fix my problem.
[09:23] <mcgregor> i've done that thing many times
[09:23] <titanix88> ubuntu_:it's 2 i'm sure.
[09:23] <ubuntu_> hmm
[09:23] <Genecks> I have a different problem.
[09:23] <ubuntu_> isn't 2 for safe modes?
[09:23] <nosrednaekim> mcgregor: did you put a dvd in it?
[09:23] <mcgregor> yes
[09:24] <BluesKaj> DraxNS, the driver that tutorial provides is a patched modded version especially for the xpress200 card , installing the unpatched version may not work the way you want.
[09:24] <Genecks> I can't upload images to websites; my browser and internet connectio crashes. Why does it crash?
[09:24] <ubuntu_> titanix88: do you also know how can we confirm this? there's not the usual /etc/inittab, where is it ??
[09:24] <mcgregor> and a  cd and it doesn't work
[09:24] <titanix88> ubuntu_:not in k/ubuntu
[09:24] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: is there a problem with the normal ATI drivers and Xpress200's?
[09:24] <BluesKaj> yes
[09:25] <BluesKaj> nosrednaekim, for 3D on feisty , yes
[09:25] <ubuntu_> titanix88: there's no inittab?
[09:25] <nosrednaekim> I have a Xpress1100, which has the Xpress200's graphics core, and no problems whatsoever.
[09:25] <ubuntu_> titanix88: how can i know what init launches?
[09:25] <mcgregor> can you guide trough the mounting process?
[09:25] <BluesKaj> are you running 3D stuff like google earth
[09:26] <mcgregor> be right back
[09:26] <sercik> hi ubuntu_! old redhat user?
[09:26] <mitch_> a question on reinstalling...with a /home partition, is the install procedure just a matter of reformatting the root partition and continuing with install, or does something else have to be done with respect to the /home partition?
[09:26] <BluesKaj> I repeat ,are you running 3D stuff like google earth , nosrednaekim
[09:26] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: flightgear, bzflag.
[09:26] <sercik> i'm also old gedora user! and to the beginning i have had problems to understand debian init mechanism
[09:27] <sercik> kubuntu start on init2 and there aren't differences like in fedora!
[09:27] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: and gl-117 as well.
[09:27] <ubuntu_> sercik: yes
[09:27] <sercik> there aren't inittab in debian
[09:27] <BluesKaj> which driver nosrednaekim, the new proprietary ATI ?
[09:28] <titanix88> ubuntu_:just kctrl->services :u will see by default run level 2
[09:28] <minty> hey im trying to compile wine can anyone tell me what i can do bout the following messages :
[09:28] <minty> onfigure: WARNING: X development files not found. Wine will be built without
[09:28] <minty> configure: WARNING: X support, which currently does not work, and probably
[09:28] <minty> configure: WARNING: isn't what you want anyway. You will need to install devel
[09:28] <minty> configure: WARNING:  packages of Xlib/Xfree86 at the very least.
[09:28] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[09:28] <sercik> to the beginning i have tried to do init:3:initdefault in inittab to start without X but X starts the same in ubuntu
[09:28] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:28] <Arwen> !pastebin | minty
[09:28] <ubotu> minty: please see above
[09:28] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: yes, the default provided by fiesty
[09:29] <sercik> for me the fedora mechanis was better! but now i love ubuntu and i will not use fedora anymore
[09:29] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, you mean you haven't installed any new drivers? so you're using the stock *2d* drivers?
[09:29] <titanix88> minty: sudo pat-get build-dep wine
[09:29] <ubuntu_> titanix88: i know, but i am not sure it's 2..... sorry if i doubt, but in some other kubuntu confs i did, it seems to me that it was 5, however i need to know what init searches for at boot
[09:29] <titanix88> minty: sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: no. I mean that I installed the standard fglrx drivers that are in the repositories
[09:30] <BluesKaj> well nosrednaekim, then your driver is modded to work with direct rendering in feisty whereas with x200 , it doesn't ...beleive me
[09:30] <Arwen> nosrednaekim, ah
[09:30] <BluesKaj> your ati card rather
[09:30] <Arwen> BluesKaj, um, the only patches in it that the debian changelog announces are a patch to make it kernel 2.6.20 compatible
[09:30] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: ok. cool!
[09:30] <minty> hey can some1 have a look please : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23312/
[09:30] <ubuntu_> i am going to reboot
[09:30] <sercik> ubuntu_ why don't you choose a better nick?
[09:31] <titanix88> ubuntu_:try to toggle some non critical service startup mode both in 2 & 5
[09:31] <Dekkard> omg
[09:31] <BluesKaj> Arwen, http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[09:31] <sercik> i want to eliminate disk check at startup someone know how it is possible?
[09:31] <Dekkard> hi.. im dek.. and.. I used to be a gnome user...
[09:31] <sercik> it loose time to check myfat32 hard disk!!
[09:31] <Arwen> sercik, err, you don't want to do that
[09:31] <titanix88> srcik:like "kubuntu"??
[09:31] <Genecks> hmm
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> sercik: would like to know that myself
[09:32] <Arwen> but you can edit /etc/fstab and set the second-to-last parameter in each line to "0"
[09:32] <ubuntu_> titanix88: i did, but some services, as i said, started again despite my changes. looking in /etc/rc2 and /etc/rc5 seemed okay, but some services like hplip (for hp printers) started again
[09:32] <sercik> Arwen: this reply ois not new to me!
[09:32] <Genecks> ??
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> Arwen: thanks!
[09:32] <Arwen> sercik, read my second response
[09:32] <sercik> but startup is very slow because that check
[09:32] <nosrednaekim> Dekkard: welcome to KDE
[09:32] <Dekkard> hehe
[09:33] <Arwen> sercik, nosrednaekim, oh wait, it's the last parameter, not the second-to-last
[09:33] <sercik> Arwen thiw eliminate check at every boot?
[09:33] <Arwen> sercik, yeah, for each line in fstab, change the last number to "0"
[09:33] <Dekkard> i didn't mean for it... I mean.. it just happened...
[09:33] <Arwen> but... that's not safe at all
[09:33] <minty> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23312/
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> minty: why are you compiling wine?
[09:33] <sercik> but Why linux should check my windows hard disk at every startup?
[09:33] <Genecks> How do I install wine?
[09:33] <nosrednaekim> !wine
[09:33] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:33] <sercik> sudo apt-get install wine
[09:33] <sercik> and then do winecfg
[09:34] <ma3x> What is the stable repository name for ubuntu?
[09:34] <minty> exactly what ubotu said
[09:34] <ma3x> What is the stable repository name for ubuntu?
[09:34] <Genecks> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 30 15:19:38 2007
[09:34] <sercik> this i s a tipical entry in my fstab: UUID=572F9C5F5D5DAC18 /media/F ntfs-3g users,defaults,locale=it_IT.UTF-8 0 1
[09:34] <sercik> what can i change?
[09:35] <titanix88> minty: sudo apt-get build-dep wine
[09:35] <Genecks> I can't install WINE.
[09:35] <nosrednaekim> minty: why are you compiling wine?
[09:35] <Arwen> sercik, change to "1" to "0"
[09:35] <Genecks> Why can't I install wine?
[09:35] <sercik> Genecks you need to add some repositories to your sources.list!
[09:35] <Genecks> How?
[09:35] <Arwen> Genecks, give us more information!
[09:35] <Arwen> don't be a troll
[09:35] <titanix88> minty: try #winehq
[09:35] <Dekkard> wait.. he needs to edit his repos
[09:35] <Genecks> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 30 15:19:38 2007
[09:36] <brandon_> still no sound. :(
[09:36] <sercik> Genecks have you added some repos to sources.list?
[09:36] <Dekkard> can he do that from adept?
[09:36] <ma3x> What is the stable repository name for ubuntu?
[09:36] <Genecks> THis is why I can't install WINE: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: May 30 15:19:38 2007
[09:36] <sercik> i can tell you about a very good lists of repository: search for (3vino blog)
[09:36] <Arwen> Genecks, the package is broken.
[09:36] <Arwen> you could use a --force-yes switch, but..
[09:36] <Komsip> Genecks: that happens if your computer clock isn't set to correct date
[09:37] <nosrednaekim> Genecks: are you sure your clock is alright?
[09:37] <Komsip> and time
[09:37] <Arwen> Genecks, oh yeah, fix your clock
[09:37] <Genecks> I recently changed my clock from 24-hour to 12-hour
[09:37] <Komsip> sync it with a ntp server
[09:37] <Arwen> just relealized that's today
[09:37] <Genecks> But that is the right time.
[09:37] <Genecks> NO wait..
[09:37] <Genecks> It is now 2:37 p.m.
[09:38] <Arwen> err, 3:38 here
[09:38] <Genecks> The wine has a timestamp too far in the future
[09:38] <minty> confused as fuck
[09:38] <Arwen> but I'm on eastern time
[09:38] <minty> lol
[09:38] <Dekkard> he must be in nebraska
[09:38] <Arwen> minty, ask from the start, I wasn't paying attention
[09:38] <nosrednaekim> minty: why are you compiling wine?
[09:38] <minty> becoz i have certain windows programs i wnt to run
[09:38] <minty> is that ok??
[09:38] <Dekkard> wow you can run murk under wine!!
[09:39] <sercik> Arwen: i have another problem at boot during check i receive boot sector is not the same as backup, not automatically fixing this!
[09:39] <Dekkard> thats usless...
[09:39] <Arwen> minty, uh.... and that relates to running wine... how?
[09:39] <Genecks> Help!!
[09:39] <Genecks> plz?!
[09:39] <Genecks> I don't no what 2 do.
[09:39] <Arwen> sercik, uh, that means exactly what it says
[09:39] <minty> minty joins brandon
[09:39] <sercik> but is dangerous?
[09:39] <minty> :D
[09:40] <Arwen> sercik, potentially
[09:40] <sercik> why my boot sector changes?
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> minty: you don't need to compile it...
[09:40] <Arwen> sercik, you broke it? lol
[09:40] <minty> ok arwen im like noobie to linux ok
[09:40] <sercik> i see this message also at first startup of linux
[09:40] <Genecks> Why my timestamp wrong?
[09:40] <minty> help me then
[09:40] <minty> :'(
[09:40] <Arwen> minty, 'apt-get install wine'
[09:40] <Arwen> simple
[09:40] <minty> done it already
[09:40] <Arwen> minty, then you have wine...
[09:40] <brandon_> But seriously - today, well last night for a couple of hours is the first time I have used linux whats so ever. All these questions I am reading I am like wow you can do this?
[09:40] <Arwen> what's the problem?
[09:40] <nosrednaekim> minty: then you have it.
[09:41] <sercik> minty: if you are new don't think to solve your problem with wine...
[09:41] <brandon_> damn we in the same boat lol
[09:41] <Dekkard> brandon_:  welcome top GNU/Linux
[09:41] <sercik> is not simple to run windows program with it!
[09:41] <Skunk> heh. at least you didnt try slackware for your first distro like i did
[09:41] <brandon_> Dekkard: Thanks man.
[09:41] <aztun> hi
[09:41] <Skunk> nightmare
[09:41] <aztun> hi all
[09:41] <MrC_> hi there fellows does anyone knows how to format an USB stick/pen on linux?And does anyone knows if Ubuntu's firewall is already set ty itself and if it safe enough?
[09:41] <Genecks> Necesito una persona que habla espanol.
[09:41] <sercik> if you think to run mirc Ok, but if you want to run microsoft office no!
[09:41] <Dekkard> slack rocks
[09:41] <Dekkard> !es
[09:41] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:41] <Arwen> minty, 'wine <path to .exe file>' - that's how you use wine... or, how you should be able to but probably won't
[09:41] <aztun> anyone had problems connecting to msn with kopete after upgrading to last kde?
[09:41] <sercik> io ablo italiano :)
[09:42] <minty> nope my msn is fine
[09:42] <aztun> I cant connect with kopete anymoer
[09:42] <aztun> anymore
[09:42] <Genecks> Nihongo wa hanashimasu.
[09:42] <brandon_> minty, you can use gaim to use AIM and MSN
[09:42] <brandon_> and icq and some shit too i believe
[09:42] <sercik> aztun you want to connect to msn?
[09:42] <minty> i know
[09:42] <aztun> yes sercik
[09:42] <minty> im connected to msn now
[09:42] <dogatemycomputer> minty: what Windows app did you want to run?
[09:42] <minty> this second n its finwe
[09:42] <sercik> try amsn
[09:42] <brandon_> i didnt know
[09:42] <aztun> I dont like amsn
[09:42] <MrC_> yo parlo italiano would be more correct
[09:42] <aztun> I like kopete
[09:42] <sercik> is the best msn clone!
[09:42] <minty> utorrent
[09:42] <minty> its easy 4 me
[09:42] <Arwen> minty, ah, good choice
[09:42] <minty> lol
[09:42] <K-Ryan> Kopete does AIM, ICQ, IRC, MSN, Yahoo
[09:43] <Arwen> utorrent works perfectly in wine :-P
[09:43] <minty> it rules dont it
[09:43] <K-Ryan> Plus more
[09:43] <minty> brill
[09:43] <aztun> i have jabber accounts and gtalk
[09:43] <aztun> so I like kopete
[09:43] <nosrednaekim> MrC_: yeah, go get qtparted
[09:43] <brandon_> The only reason I switched to linux is because im not paying microsoft one more dime for doing nothing but crashing my system simutaniously.
[09:43] <MrC_> me too I like Kopete but today i was having problems with all day long
[09:43] <brandon_> bunch of cock suckers.
[09:43] <aztun> but know can only connect to jabber
[09:43] <dogatemycomputer> !language
[09:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:43] <sercik> utorrent is the best torrent client i know!
[09:43] <Arwen> minty, you could try using ktorrent (not as many features, but native and light) or azureus (java, bloaty, but generally better than utorrent).
[09:43] <brandon_> I figured hell I can get this for free, why not give it a shot.
[09:43] <minty> ive also goty the fun attept to install beryl in a min :p
[09:43] <brandon_> oops. my bad.
[09:43] <Dekkard> language..please
[09:43] <brandon_> oops. my bad.
[09:43] <Dekkard> np
[09:43] <brandon_> Im going to mess around with this sound issue I got again.
[09:43] <Dekkard> ktorrent is nice
[09:44] <brandon_> sucks not having no sound.
[09:44] <minty> arwen what do u use
[09:44] <Arwen> minty, azureus, I have enough RAM to handle the overhead :-\
[09:44] <sercik> if you want you can try mldonkey with sancho gui!
[09:44] <bch> i need some help replacing an open source satasil3124 driver with one from the hardware manufacturer
[09:44] <dogatemycomputer> minty: well.. it specifically says Utorrent works with Wine so why not try?  did you need help getting it running with wine?
[09:44] <aztun> what a shit, kopete always worked great for me
[09:44] <aztun> I tried deleting all config on ~/.kde
[09:44] <bch> i have the tar ball and can compile the module, but then how do i get it to load?
[09:45] <aztun> and still fails
[09:45] <minty> ilkl see in a second whats wine classed under ..   multimedia ? .. etc
[09:45] <jthomas> kopete stinks with this release
[09:45] <Genecks> Necesito una persona que habla espanol.
[09:45] <K-Ryan> I think Kopete is fine
[09:45] <aztun> q te pasa Genecks?
[09:45] <nosrednaekim> !es | Genecks
[09:45] <ubotu> Genecks: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:45] <bch> insmod says it can find the module. not sure what to do with the .ko file that gets out
[09:45] <jthomas> !es |Genecks
[09:45] <aztun> pq no vas a #kubuntu-es??
[09:45] <brandon_> Genecks: I don't think anyone speaks spanish bro
[09:45] <K-Ryan> Beat me to it nosrednaekim
[09:45] <minty> he said whats up
[09:45] <bch> any suggestions?
[09:45] <jthomas> Genecks: yo hablo pero estamos aqui en el forum ingles
[09:46] <K-Ryan> ahah, i get it
[09:46] <K-Ryan> "mike anderson"
[09:46] <sercik> se vua iu puozzo parlali sicialianu! mi capisci?
[09:46] <minty> shit not that good
[09:46] <PriceChild> !ohmy
[09:46] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:46] <jthomas> !language
[09:46] <minty> im sorry
[09:46] <brandon_> ka passa amigo
[09:46] <minty> my bad
[09:46] <brandon_> minty
[09:46] <K-Ryan> Habla ingles por favor...
[09:46] <brandon_> did you have any sound issues when you installed ubuntu?
[09:46] <jthomas> Genecks: que tal?
[09:46] <minty> me?
[09:47] <brandon_> yeah
[09:47] <minty> no not that ive experienced so far
[09:47] <Genecks> jthomas, stuf
[09:47] <jthomas> lol
[09:47] <Genecks> ^_~
[09:47] <brandon_> word. i cant get my sound to work. Its dectecting the sound card. but its not using it.
[09:47] <brandon_> lol
[09:47] <minty> ../ noticed yet
[09:47] <K-Ryan> habla ingles en #kubuntu, habla espanol en #kubuntu-es
[09:47] <sercik> someone knows how to add entry to kde menu? for that applications that install menu inder /usr/share/menu ??
[09:47] <minty> erm wot wine app do i wana use
[09:47] <K-Ryan>  /rant
[09:47] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: sshhh!n don
[09:47] <nosrednaekim> 't tell anyone
[09:48] <jthomas> anyone read the article about how westerners generally do these emoticons  :)  and easterners generally do ^_^    crazy huh?
[09:48] <K-Ryan> =)
[09:48] <minty> haha
[09:48] <minty> lol
[09:48] <K-Ryan> I go crazy and use =)
[09:48] <jthomas> sercik: right-click on the menu and edit it
[09:48] <sercik> jthomas i know that
[09:48] <nosrednaekim> ^_^   how true
[09:48] <bch> this lady i work with does (-:
[09:48] <bch> which drives me nuts
[09:49] <jthomas> she's nuts!
[09:49] <minty> dogate : do i wana use wine file to open it
[09:49] <K-Ryan> Although I do use -.- or o.O every once in a while.
[09:49] <sercik> i'm searching for an applications that create shortcut for me! for that programs (there are many) that don't create a entry in kde menu
[09:49] <sercik> please noone have this problem?
[09:49] <K-Ryan> You can make entries in the kde menu
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> sercik: kmenueditor
[09:49] <Genecks> SOmetimes I talk spanish to anger people
[09:49] <bch> you can add items to the menu
[09:49] <K-Ryan> Or make shortcuts on your own
[09:49] <jthomas> go to a command line and tpye: locate _name_
[09:49] <Genecks> SOmetimes I'll rudely talk SPanish to spanish people.
[09:49] <nosrednaekim> Genecks: clase su boca
[09:49] <sercik> nosrednaekim: the problem is not to edit menu!
[09:49] <Genecks> Life is fun that way when you know multiple foreign languages.
[09:50] <K-Ryan> Except this channel is for English...
[09:50] <brandon_> NO COMPRENDA!!!
[09:50] <Genecks> I need help.
[09:50] <Skunk> how to wow any spanish speaking person: spell out the word SOCKS
[09:50] <brandon_> i think thats how its spelled.
[09:50] <brandon_> :-x
[09:50] <nosrednaekim> K-Ryan: thats basically what I just said
[09:50] <sercik> if i launch a fluxbox session i see much entry but in kde there are fex entry
[09:50] <K-Ryan> And another language being used purposely could be considered offtopic
[09:50] <Skunk> translates into eso si que es (spelling?) meaning it is what it is x3
[09:50] <sercik> because of that applications that don't create a .desktop dile
[09:50] <Genecks> How do I create a macro with the Konsole?
[09:50] <K-Ryan> On a side note, know how to say diary in spanish? =D
[09:51] <brandon_> whats a macro?
[09:51] <Genecks> -_-
[09:51] <K-Ryan> Something that does a bunch of things for you without you having to do them all
[09:51] <Genecks> A macro records keyboard typing and mouse clicks.
[09:51] <sercik> if i launch a fluxbox session i see many entry in menu but in kde menu there are fex entry because of that applications that don't create a .desktop file but create a file in /usr/share/menu
[09:51] <Genecks> It relays these recorded strokes and key pushes within an environment.
[09:52] <K-Ryan> A macro does not relay them
[09:52] <Genecks> I read that I could create a shell script for such things, but I don't know how.
[09:52] <Genecks> Yes, it does.
[09:52] <K-Ryan> A macro repeats them upon execution.
[09:52] <Genecks> It replays them.
[09:52] <K-Ryan> Replay maybe, not relay
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> Genecks: its easy to make a shell script just put all the commands in a file
[09:52] <Dekkard> wow kopete is quick
[09:52] <Genecks> What commands?
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> and command you want to run
[09:52] <Genecks> I don't know what commands to use for keyboard and mouse strokes.
[09:52] <nosrednaekim> *any
[09:52] <Dekkard> well.. now that ya mention it.. it seems kde is just quicker than gnome...
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> Genecks: oh.. that
[09:53] <K-Ryan> That's not a shellscript Genecks
[09:53] <sercik>  if i launch a fluxbox session i see many entry in menu but in kde menu there are fex entry because of that applications that don't create a .desktop file but create a file in /usr/share/menu
[09:53] <sercik> [21:51]  <Genecks> A macro records keyboard typing and mouse clicks.
[09:53] <nosrednaekim> Dekkard: really? cool.. I always noticed the opposite
[09:53] <DraxNS> BluesKaj: it is ok.. I have x200 integrated... just what it should work for :-)
[09:53] <Genecks> I need to make a script that plays out keyboard typing and mouse clicks.
[09:53] <K-Ryan> And a macro doesn't record them either...
[09:53] <K-Ryan> Genecks: Just out of curiousity, what are you using it for?
[09:53] <Dekkard> nosrednaekim:  well.. im running an athlon 900 with 512 meg of ram..
[09:53] <Genecks> Destroying the world.
[09:53] <Genecks> It's a long-term goal.
[09:54] <Dekkard> and believe me..  i notice speed
[09:54] <Jacko2007> Hello
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> Dekkard: about 1.4ghz? and KDE is faster? thats interesting
[09:54] <K-Ryan> Hi Jacko2007
[09:54] <a9913> what was the name of the meta package which installed the compiler collection and stuff?
[09:54] <Dekkard> um.. no.. athlon 900 mghz
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> a9913: build-essential
[09:54] <sercik> buils-essential
[09:54] <nosrednaekim> Dekkard: oh wow.
[09:54] <Dekkard> this is an old t-bird
[09:54] <a9913> nosrednaekim, sercik, thanks!
[09:54] <Genecks> I need to make a script that plays out keyboard typing and mouse clicks. How do I do this with the shell?
[09:54] <K-Ryan> Shell scripts don't do that
[09:54] <sercik> you are welcome!
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> a9913: NP
[09:55] <sercik> please someone reply:  if i launch a fluxbox session i see many entry in menu but in kde menu there are fex entry because of that applications that don't create a .desktop file but create a file in /usr/share/
[09:55] <Kartibok> Hi all, any suggestions for applications that would help me write javascript?
[09:55] <Jacko2007> I set up LAMP a while ago and I have forgot my MySQL details how do I get / reset the information
[09:55] <K-Ryan> See #bash for shell scripting however...
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> bye all! back to real life (tm)
[09:55] <nosrednaekim> ;)
[09:55] <Jacko2007> cya nosrednaekim
[09:55] <sercik> hi nosrednaekim! goodbye
[09:56] <Jacko2007> any ideas?
[09:58] <minty> can some 1 help me run wine 4 a minute please
[09:58] <Jacko2007> minty, go ahead
[09:58] <Arwen> minty, time is money, but I'll help ya
[09:59] <minty> thnks arwen
[09:59] <minty> ok
[09:59] <minty> how do i set up utorr 4 wine etc
[09:59] <Arwen> minty, err, download utorrent, open a konsole, run "wine utorrent.exe"
[10:00] <Arwen> or, actually, I think you can just double click on the app in Ubuntu
[10:00] <minty> is that it?
[10:00] <minty> lol
[10:00] <Arwen> yea
[10:00] <Arwen> some apps are trickier :-P
[10:00] <gianluca> ubuntu-it
[10:00] <gianluca> #ubuntu-it
[10:01] <Genecks> I need to make a script that plays out keyboard typing and mouse clicks. How do I do this with the shell?
[10:01] <Dekkard> gianluca:  /join #ubuntu-it
[10:01] <sercik> Ciao gianluca
[10:02] <minty> any way of gettin summin bak once u shift-deleted something>?#
[10:02] <Dekkard> :O
[10:02] <minty> utha thn dwnldin iit again
[10:03] <Zavie> woah.
[10:04] <Genecks> I need to make a script that plays out keyboard typing and mouse clicks.
[10:06] <Dekkard> Genecks:  a keylogger?
[10:06] <Genecks> No.
[10:06] <Genecks> I need something similar to a macro in LInux.
[10:06] <Genecks> I need to find a way to conduct a series of keyboard commands on GIMP.
[10:07] <Dekkard> for image manipulation?
[10:07] <Genecks> Yes.
[10:07] <Dekkard> phot images..RAW?
[10:07] <Dekkard> photo
[10:07] <Genecks> .jpg
[10:08] <Dekkard> no svensk
[10:08] <Genecks> Is that a word?
[10:08] <Dekkard> hehe
[10:08] <Dekkard> yes
[10:08] <Dekkard> um..
[10:08] <Dekkard>  i was wondering if there was another proggie to use
[10:08] <Dekkard> like picassa
[10:08] <Dekkard>  or kphoto
[10:08] <Genecks> No, what I'm doing requires knowledge of physics: light attributes.
[10:09] <Genecks> Interestingly, GIMP has a preprogrammed light attribute, which I cannot understand or comprehend.
[10:09] <Dekkard>  or do you know the gimp commands?
[10:09] <Genecks> However, I need to apply it.
[10:09] <Genecks> There is no GIMP command for it.
[10:09] <Genecks> GIMP'
[10:09] <Genecks> **
[10:09] <Genecks> Gimp's scheme programming for batch processing does not have this preset light attribute
[10:10] <Genecks> I would have to figure out what it is, which would take too long.
[10:10] <Genecks> Now, I could just give up right here and now; I already have this installed for WIndows XP
[10:10] <Jacko2007> I set up LAMP a while ago and I have forgot my MySQL details how do I get / reset the information
[10:10] <Dekkard> have you investigated any pre existing filters.. or effects plugins?
[10:10] <Genecks> Change the bulb
[10:10] <Genecks> I've investigated, but none will work.
[10:10] <Jacko2007> Genecks lol
[10:11] <Genecks> I'll give up after today.
[10:11] <Dekkard> maybe a channel on gimp.net?
[10:11] <Genecks> Nah, they'd tell me to use scheme
[10:12] <Genecks> It wouldn't work, because I've have to actually learn a few programming languages and tear apart GIMP to get at what I want
[10:12] <Genecks> Scheme only works if the person knows the attributes.
[10:12] <Firetech> hmm, when playing a stream in Amarok, the sound sometimes decides to drop. Amarok continues to download the stream, but no sound comes out (not with any player) until I restart ALSA using the init.d script. What can be wrong?
[10:12] <Genecks> And the attributes are coded into GIMP
[10:13] <Genecks> So, I have to tear apart GIMP to create the attribute, thus allowing SCHEME to batch-process some images.
[10:13] <Genecks> It just isn't the same.
[10:13] <Dekkard> Genecks:  you  are  boned
[10:13] <rkroetch> Genecks, then talk to the gimp channel and request a feature or code it yourself
[10:13] <Genecks> I thought about that.
[10:13] <Genecks> However, I already have the problem solved.
[10:13] <Genecks> Of course, it's solved on Windows XP.
[10:13] <rkroetch> Genecks, the features you see have to come from somewhere, if it doesn't exist, then (preferably write it yourself) or tell someone what you want
[10:14] <Genecks> That takes too long.
[10:14] <Dekkard> good software takes time
[10:14] <Genecks> I only wanted it because someone told me I could run the script in the background on Kubuntu in background desktops.
[10:14] <rkroetch> You are looking on howto setup keyboard shortcuts for GIMP is the basic gist?
[10:14] <Dekkard> i mean.. vista wasnt written in tow years ya know!!
[10:14] <Genecks> Afterwards, I could browse the web.
[10:14] <Genecks> Fuck Vista
[10:14] <Dekkard> dood.. it was a joke?
[10:14] <Genecks> I come from the days when windows had a decimal in it
[10:15] <Genecks> Back when people booted to DOS.
[10:15] <Genecks> Afterwards, you'd hit WIN
[10:15] <sjapbnc5> Hey guys, is this the recent version of the ati driver
[10:15] <sjapbnc5> haydar@haydar-desktop:~$ fglrxinfo
[10:15] <sjapbnc5> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[10:15] <sjapbnc5> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[10:15] <sjapbnc5> OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9600
[10:15] <sjapbnc5> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6334 (8.34.8)
[10:15] <Genecks> I'm not talking about the WIndows key
[10:15] <Genecks> I'm talking about the letters.
[10:16] <Genecks> "W" "I" "N"
[10:16] <sjapbnc5> And, how can i update it ;o
[10:16] <Dekkard> i only ran win 3.1 once.. it was cute
[10:16] <Genecks> did you search the forum first, sjap?
[10:16] <Genecks> and if it's recent, why update?
[10:17] <kane> sjapbnc5: if those are the drivers that come with ubuntu i would leave them there unless you have a specific issue you need resolved.
[10:17] <sjapbnc5> I dont know if its the recent version
[10:17] <rkroetch> I have a question about the package manager of Kubuntu... How fast/reliable is it? -- I'm looking to switch from Slack / SuSe possibly
[10:17] <sjapbnc5> Well, kane it works like a charm
[10:17] <sjapbnc5> sometimes
[10:17] <kane> sjapbnc5: if they came with fiesty then are pretty recent.
[10:17] <kane> well ATI drivers suck, sometimes.
[10:17] <sjapbnc5> i cant play games
[10:17] <sjapbnc5> until i reboot
[10:18] <sjapbnc5> after running WoW
[10:18] <sjapbnc5> on wine
[10:18] <Dekkard> rkroetch:  apt walks all over rpm
[10:18] <sjapbnc5> xD
[10:18] <rolnyzx> rkroetch, if you use Yast in SUSE
[10:18] <kane> just never stop playing wow : )
[10:18] <rolnyzx> you are going to feel a pretty amazing change in speed
[10:18] <sjapbnc5> >:D
[10:18] <sjapbnc5> I Really enjoy using kubuntu
[10:18] <sjapbnc5> atm
[10:19] <sjapbnc5> 2 weeks
[10:19] <sjapbnc5> and counting
[10:19] <rkroetch> Good, I loved slack but didn't wish to compile XGL + Beryl from scratch :)
[10:19] <Dekkard> lol
[10:19] <kane> yeah its not a bid thing, but updating the drivers for ati require a bit of work.
[10:19] <sjapbnc5> i hate ati atm
[10:19] <Dekkard> slack is nice
[10:19] <rkroetch> Kubuntu supports Beryl etc, right?
[10:19] <kane> and its prolly going to break everytime the kernal gets updated.
[10:19] <Dekkard> if yer vid card does
[10:19] <kane> and you will have to do the process again.
[10:19] <sjapbnc5> :-C
[10:19] <rolnyzx> rkroetch, what kind of video card do you have
[10:19] <kane> next time, i would pick up an nvidia card.
[10:20] <rkroetch> Nvidia, I can get everything setup with no problems
[10:20] <kane> they are by far and away the best for linux.
[10:20] <rkroetch> I just need packages for modern X servers and beryl
[10:20] <rolnyzx> then you won't have any problem
[10:20] <sjapbnc5> Yea, but ATi works fine atm
[10:20] <kane> ati doesnt even compare really.
[10:20] <sjapbnc5> only some crashes
[10:20] <Dekkard> rolnyzx:  try the live cd
[10:20] <rkroetch> Yeah, I run Beryl right now with SuSe
[10:20] <sjapbnc5> on W:ET i'm getting 80-125 FPS
[10:20] <rkroetch> But Novell is a bad company
[10:20] <sjapbnc5> native
[10:20] <sjapbnc5> But, i'm waiting on ATi
[10:20] <kane> yeah, check like any of the wine or transgaming information about certain games and you will almost always notcie more issues with ati than nvidia.
[10:20] <sjapbnc5> for better drivers.
[10:21] <Genecks> Here's a question for all of you.
[10:21] <Genecks> I'm trying to upload an image to a website.
[10:21] <Dekkard> k
[10:21] <kane> well, AMD bought them, and AMD has been good to opensource, so i think they will get better soon(ish_
[10:21] <sjapbnc5> Why didnt blizzard make a linux version of WoW
[10:21] <Genecks> However, my connection drops and the browser crashes when I try to upload.
[10:21] <sjapbnc5> they got MAC
[10:21] <rolnyzx> Dekkard, what?
[10:21] <sjapbnc5> but not Linux:(
[10:21] <sjapbnc5> >:C
[10:21] <Dekkard> rolnyzx:  try the ubuntu/kubuntu live cd
[10:21] <kane> sjapbnc5: there was actually a very long thread about that.  A blue finally stated it was due to "networking issues"
[10:21] <rolnyzx> Dekkard, why
[10:22] <sjapbnc5> i dont believe that
[10:22] <kane> i dont either.
[10:22] <kane> but thats what they said.
[10:22] <Dekkard> Genecks:  what browser?
[10:22] <sjapbnc5> Really stupid of them tbh
[10:22] <Genecks> Mozilla
[10:22] <sjapbnc5> only ID software q3/q3
[10:22] <kane> i think it just doesnt make finicial sense to them.
[10:22] <kane> not enough people just run linux who wont either duel boot or use cedega to play it.
[10:22] <kane> with mac, there isnt a whole lot of duelbooting going on, also the have a traditon with mac games.
[10:23] <sjapbnc5> Maybe, a stupid question but
[10:23] <sjapbnc5> Mac OSX
[10:23] <sjapbnc5> can you install it on every computer
[10:23] <kane> not without a hack, last i checked.
[10:23] <Dekkard> major hack
[10:23] <sjapbnc5> LoL guess the drivers suck then
[10:24] <kane> but it is possible.
[10:24] <Dekkard> Genecks:  this is a webs ite you have access to ..like ablog.. and you are trying to uplad.. and the browser crashes.
[10:24] <kane> i'm not sure, likley do drivers at all.
[10:24] <Dekkard>  wierd
[10:24] <kane> for things like video cards.
[10:24] <sjapbnc5> :o
[10:24] <kane> maybe, you would have to look into it further.
[10:24] <sjapbnc5> Well, i wont
[10:24] <sjapbnc5> because i'm 2 lazy :p
[10:25] <kane> sjapbnc5: do you use cedega or wine to run WoW?
[10:25] <sjapbnc5> wine
[10:25] <sjapbnc5> on cedega its even more sucky
[10:25] <kane> i had pretty good luck with cedega.
[10:25] <kane> back when i played.
[10:25] <sjapbnc5> It freezes
[10:25] <sjapbnc5> i need to do a full reboot
[10:25] <sjapbnc5> and the framerate is really low
[10:25] <sjapbnc5> -                        -                          -
[10:25] <kane> hrm.
[10:26] <sjapbnc5> something like that
[10:26] <rkroetch> Another question about Kubuntu : Does it mostly use the KControlCenter to manage hardware etc, or does it use its own software like Yast?
[10:26] <tomgg> ahh just play doom instead :D
[10:26] <sjapbnc5> >:D
[10:26] <kane> heh or ut2004
[10:26] <sjapbnc5> snes emulator :p
[10:26] <tomgg> ut rock on!!#
[10:26] <kane> ut2007 will be out soon.
[10:26] <sjapbnc5> Wolfenstein Enemy-territory
[10:26] <tomgg> yea im hooked on that atm
[10:26] <sjapbnc5> Enemy-territory Quake wars
[10:26] <rkroetch> Genecks, check out Krita's script option if you need to do script-based graphics manipulation
[10:26] <sjapbnc5> If you really like the game
[10:26] <sjapbnc5> u could support
[10:26] <tomgg> oo not played that
[10:26] <kane> i just would like for more game folks to port to linux.
[10:26] <sjapbnc5> www.xfire.be
[10:26] <sjapbnc5> its the community site
[10:27] <sjapbnc5> of W:ET
[10:27] <kane> if they do mac it shouldnt be much harder to port to linux.
[10:27] <sjapbnc5> Yea, just 2 lazy
[10:27] <sjapbnc5> Linux is growing fast
[10:28] <sjapbnc5> today i did full update
[10:28] <sjapbnc5> and it updated something with the kernel
[10:28] <|lostbyte|> :P
[10:28] <sjapbnc5> :S
[10:28] <sjapbnc5> :
[10:28] <sjapbnc5> P
[10:30] <sjapbnc5> what does this do
[10:30] <sjapbnc5> emerge -av wine
[10:30] <kane> sjapbnc5: thats a gentoo command
[10:30] <SlimeyPete> sjapbnc5: on kubuntu? nothing
[10:30] <|lostbyte|> yeah
[10:30] <SlimeyPete> sjapbnc5: the equivalent is "apt-get install wine"
[10:30] <kane> sjapbnc5: it install wine on gentoo, im not sure about the -av flags
[10:31] <flake> instead of opening a terminal and keeping it open to 'make' after using gedit to save the main.cpp file, is there some programmer's tool that is light on resources in and I can add my own script or batch-oriented stuff?
[10:31] <kane> gentoo does have an excellent wiki though
[10:31] <sjapbnc5> Yep
[10:31] <sjapbnc5> i was looking at the wikii
[10:31] <sjapbnc5> i'm like wtf
[10:31] <sjapbnc5> alot of stuff there
[10:31] <sjapbnc5> i guess Gentoo is for the dieharders
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> sjapbnc5, i think its used to list al ackages that are dependent on wine.
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> packages*
[10:32] <sjapbnc5> :D
[10:32] <kane> flake: well, there is kdevelop
[10:32] <sjapbnc5> winecfg
[10:32] <kane> but i wouldnt call it "lite" by any means.
[10:32] <sjapbnc5> maybe i got something wrong there
[10:32] <sjapbnc5> hmm ill check it out :o
[10:33] <kane> flake: i personally use kate because you can have a konsole open on the bottom of the screen there and edit multiple files and all.
[10:34] <sjapbnc5> kate > ALL
[10:34] <sjapbnc5> Btw, is UT2004 opensource or what
[10:34] <flake> kate will fit the bill, thanks kane
[10:34] <sjapbnc5> do i need to buy it?
[10:35] <kane> sjapbnc5: no its a commercial game.
[10:35] <kane> i cant spell today...
[10:35] <kane> anyways you gotta buy it. its pretty cheap though.
[10:35] <kane> and the linux installer is on the disk.
[10:36] <sjapbnc5> Okay :)
[10:36] <sjapbnc5> Unreal Tournament 2004
[10:36] <sjapbnc5> Lets order it XD
[10:36] <kane> lots of good mods for it as well.
[10:36] <kane> most/all work on linux
[10:37] <sjapbnc5> i hear something about ATi drivers
[10:37] <sjapbnc5> going opensource
[10:37] <kane> well they had opensource drivers for some of the older cards.
[10:39] <kane> but amd might opensource the rest, they have supportes oss in the past.
[10:39] <timmay> anyone know what the usb2.0 driver is?
[10:40] <timmay> more accurate, i am plugging in my blackberry and it says the charge is not enough and to ensure the proper usb driver is installed
[10:40] <Muz`> btw, i'm sjapbnc 5 :p
[10:40] <|lostbyte|> timmay, huh, its supported by default.. why ?
[10:40] <Muz`> on bouncer ;oP
[10:41] <kane> timmay: they are very very likley installed.
[10:41] <DraxNS> BluesKaj: so far... so good :-) looks like driver is working fine.. no loop at logoff/restart/shudown...
[10:41] <DraxNS> now... to resolve slmodemd issue.. and I am good :-)
[10:41] <timmay> odd
[10:41] <timmay> dumb phone
[10:42] <reevester> guys......does kubuntu installation take a long time on old PC's ?
[10:42] <SlimeyPete> yep. Installation of anything modern takes a long time on old PCs ;)
[10:42] <reevester> mine has taken more than 20 mins at the light blue screen and still nothing but i can see the DVD-ROM light blinking on and off as if its reading something :S
[10:42] <kane> reevester: depends on the PC.  its basicly just uncompressing files and copying them to the disk.
[10:42] <|lostbyte|> reevester, depends on harddisk speed and processor power.
[10:42] <kane> reevester: yeah give it time.
[10:43] <BluesKaj> DraxNS, in the terminal ' fgl_glxgears '
[10:43] <kane> 20 mins isnt long really.
[10:43] <DraxNS> I know... tested it.. BluesKaj
[10:43] <reevester> i finished 6 chapters in a novel that im reading :S
[10:43] <kane> reevester: has it even booted to the live cd yet?
[10:43] <BluesKaj> cool eh ?
[10:43] <DraxNS> I got ~145 with gears window up.. and ~500 when minimized
[10:43] <reevester> well the boot started.....then the light blue screen with the mouse icon appeared.....and then nothing.....
[10:43] <|lostbyte|> timmay, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190938 hope this give you a little info.
[10:44] <kane> reevester: ah i see, i really hate that they force you to boot into that live CD.
[10:44] <reevester> atleast it should DO something no/
[10:44] <kane> reevester: how much ram do you have?
[10:44] <reevester> yea.....the alternate cd option that ubuntu gives is much better
[10:44] <DraxNS> that tutorial is a piece of gold BluesKaj :-)
[10:44] <reevester> its a P3 550 Mhz machine with 128 MB RAM
[10:44] <kane> oh no.
[10:44] <kane> yeah
[10:44] <kane> thats not going to work with the live cd.
[10:45] <hyper_ch> reevester: you may rather want to go for xubuntu then...
[10:45] <kane> reevester: right, xubuntu with the alt installer.
[10:45] <BluesKaj> it works for us deprived ATI graphics owners, DraxNS :)
[10:45] <kane> so you dont have to boot to that god-forsaken live cd.
[10:45] <reevester> well i AM running the xubuntu cd guys
[10:45] <reevester> thats what im trying to say! :P
[10:45] <reevester> should it take so long?
[10:45] <BluesKaj> bookmark it for future reference , DraxNS
[10:45] <kane> ah, well you are in the Kubuntu channel, so i assumed.
[10:45] <DraxNS> will do.. will do :-)
[10:46] <reevester> ohhh oops
[10:46] <kane> reevester: because it has to uncompress alot of files, and load them to the ram you dont have.
[10:46] <reevester> my bad O_o
[10:46] <kane> no worries.
[10:46] <reevester> this linux stuff is confusing
[10:46] <reevester> xubuntu is the one for slow pc's no?
[10:46] <kane> you should have at minimum 256 megs of ram.
[10:46] <kerric> hi all :] 
[10:46] <kane> the way ubuntu names stuff is confusing imho.
[10:46] <reevester> well something has finally come up....its doing something.....
[10:46] <kerric> can any one tell me name of a good dvd player ?
[10:46] <kane> reevester: yes, but the live cd still requires some beef on the computers end.
[10:46] <reevester> some round dots doing something in a ball
[10:46] <reevester> hmm kk
[10:46] <hyper_ch> reevester: yes it is... there are other distros that are maybe better suited...
[10:47] <kane> reevester: yeah its going to come up eventually, its just going to run like crap.
[10:47] <BluesKaj> DraxNS, I'm a bit of a geography nut , so I simple need google earth to feed my habit :)
[10:47] <hyper_ch> reevester: but for installation I'd go with the alternate cd...
[10:47] <kane> me too.
[10:47] <BluesKaj> simply
[10:47] <kane> i think it s a good option to have, but you shouldnt be forced to it.
[10:47] <DraxNS> hehee... I need my ET RTCW... ;-)
[10:47] <reevester> well i actually tried the alternate CD of ubuntu.....but the bloody thing stopped in the "Installing Base System Step"@ 75  %
[10:47] <kane> i ran xubuntu on a box similiar to that and it works fairly well, its just the alternate install was easier to perform.
[10:48] <reevester> im getting frustrated! LS
[10:48] <Graham> DraxNS: It's not ET RTCW
[10:48] <Graham> It's just WET, there is no returning to the castle.
[10:48] <DraxNS> :-)
[10:48] <BluesKaj> DraxNS, ET RTCW ?
[10:48] <kerric> can anyone help me plz ? I need a good dvd player, cause kaffeine and mplayer don't work with this dvd
[10:48] <Graham> Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
[10:48] <DraxNS> Enemy Territory... BluesKaj
[10:48] <DraxNS> yes
[10:48] <Graham> I'm gona play that again sometime, should download it.
[10:49] <kane> kerric: they all use the same back end libs, so if mplayer and kaffeine doesnt work none likley will.
[10:49] <Solarus> hey guys
[10:49] <Graham> kane: Not necessarily.
[10:49] <kerric> so what i can do to run this dvd ?
[10:49] <phishinphree> PhinnFort: thank you again for the pointer about ipv6 causing the stuttering connection issues.  My machine is working much, much better now.
[10:49] <Graham> kerric: Do you have libccs2?
[10:49] <Solarus> anyone in here running an nvidia 6200 agp?
[10:49] <kerric> ekhm
[10:49] <kerric> dunno
[10:50] <kane> oh right, i forget about that those are not in on a default install i used automatix : )
[10:50] <DraxNS> just to send link to myself :-)
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> GAH!
[10:50] <DraxNS> http://www.howforge.com/how-to-setup-fglrx-for-ubuntu-feisty
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> when will people learn?
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> !automatix
[10:50] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> In other words, DON'T use it!
[10:50] <Graham> kerric: sudo apt-get install libcss2
[10:50] <kane> nah, i dont want to hear the automatix propaganda, i know all about it.
[10:50] <Daisuke_Ido> there is nothing in there that can't be installed easily elsewhere.
[10:51] <kerric> and this should do Graham ?
[10:51] <Solarus> anyone in here running an nvidia 6200 agp?
[10:51] <kane> i wasnt suggesting he use, it i was mearly stating i forget about codecs not included.
[10:51] <phishinphree> whats easier than apt-get? i've never found a need for automatix
[10:51] <kerric> what for is this libcss2 ?
[10:51] <Solarus> is there any way to add a graphics driver into the installation sequence before it starts?
[10:52] <Solarus> like an update package?
[10:52] <BluesKaj> !libdvdcss2 | kerric
[10:52] <kane> kerric do this sudo apt-get install libdvdcss2
[10:52] <ubotu> kerric: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:52] <jorik808> anyone knows where i can find the kde mediacontrol package ? (puts media controls in your taskbar)
[10:52] <kane> it decodes your DVD s.
[10:52] <Graham> Yeah, read the wiki on Restricted Formats
[10:52] <kerric> thx
[10:52] <Graham> It'll help you kerric :)
[10:52] <Graham> Ima go play open arena, FOR SPARTAAAAA
[10:53] <leileilol> :)))))))))
[10:53] <BluesKaj> you need it for dvds
[10:53] <DraxNS> smartlink drivers anyone? working on feisty?
[10:53] <kane> isnt there a meta package that installs all thos codecs?
[10:54] <kerric> it is working :)
[10:54] <kerric> thx :)
[10:55] <kerric> perfect movie for night :]  the godfather :] 
[10:55] <MaTiAz> :D
[10:58] <BluesKaj> yes kane there is , trying to locate it as we speak
[11:00] <kane> BluesKaj: maybe ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:00] <kane> yeah that has some good stuff, but not the libdvdcss
[11:02] <BluesKaj> kane : http://designedfor.wordpress.com/2006/10/07/ubuntu-media-codecs/
[11:02] <BluesKaj> copy and paste into the terminal
[11:03] <reevester> ok in the LIVE CD....once it reaches the login screen....its askin for a username....and theres also a 'User ubuntu will login in 9 seconds'
[11:03] <kane> yeah i have all those, i was just wondering if there was a meta-package that would make it easy for people that ask.  Like an apt-get-install ubuntu-multimedia or whatever.
[11:03] <reevester> what do i do there?
[11:04] <kane> reevester: it should just log you in.
[11:04] <reevester> ok....so i just hang on right?
[11:04] <reevester> and then what do i do once it apparently loads?
[11:04] <sa> rysiek|pl: hey! it is amin81. how are you?
[11:04] <kane> there is an icon on the desktop
[11:05] <kane> and "install xubuntu" or something similar
[11:05] <sa> hi everyone! two quick questions
[11:05] <kane> just open it up and follow the prompts.
[11:05] <kane> it will be very slow on your system, so just be patient.
[11:05] <reevester> great....i might as well go and make some babies while im at it! ^_^
[11:05] <reevester> hehe
[11:06] <reevester> thanks for ur help tho kane :)
[11:06] <kane> np sir.
[11:06] <sa> 1. how do I change between desktops?
[11:06] <killermach> sa: are you in beryl?
[11:06] <kane> sa like kde and gnome?
[11:06] <sa> 2. if i want to write to someone on konverstation how do I add that persons name without writing it manually?
[11:06] <rysiek|pl> sa: hi there! net works fine, I hope ;)
[11:07] <sa> in KDE
[11:07] <rysiek|pl> sa: 1. on beryl or in the standard KDE?
[11:07] <rysiek|pl> sa: 2. start typing he/she's nick and press TAB
[11:07] <sa> rysiek|pl: in standard KDE
[11:08] <Quinn_Storm> first let me preface this by saying this is a real question, I am a kubuntu user and not a gnome user.  I am looking for a kde/kubuntu app/frontend for tracker or something like it (please not beagle, *yuck*).  What should I be looking at?
[11:08] <sa> rysiek|pl: dont tell me about the network, it is a long story...hahaha
[11:09] <sa> rysiek|pl: I just got myself a new computer because i had a major hardware problem on the old one
[11:09] <kane> Quinn_Storm: for tracker, the desktop search gig?
[11:09] <rysiek|pl> sa: d'oh, so all our work... ;)
[11:09] <BluesKaj> yeah kane sorry , i shudda looked closer
[11:09] <Quinn_Storm> yeah, kane , though I hate the buzzword 'desktop search' :-P
[11:09] <rysiek|pl> sa: as to changing desktops - just click on the one you want to go to in the Desktop Switcher on tyhe panel
[11:10] <Zavie> what do you guys think is better GNOME or KDE ...i have them both and i was just wondering what your opinions were?
[11:10] <sa> rysiek|pl: part of our work was saved on a memory stick
[11:10] <Quinn_Storm> Zavie: this *is* #/K/ubuntu so...
[11:10] <kane> yeah, i saw a tool for it the other day, lemme look...i normally just enter whatever i want to find in the konqueror window and it does a locate type thing thats similiar to the "desktop search" stuff.
[11:10] <Quinn_Storm> kane: yeah but locate doesn't do metadata indexing like tracker/beagle
[11:10] <Quinn_Storm> and locate doesn't have an inotify-based fs-watcher that autoupdates and thus eliminates the crawl
[11:10] <rysiek|pl> sa: the most important part got through to the bugtracker
[11:11] <illriginal> Hey guys? Can anyone help me with my desktop settings?
[11:11] <rysiek|pl> sa: and that's the really important thing :)
[11:11] <sa> rysiek|pl: but I had forgotten that we changed from a : to a ; at the end of our work
[11:11] <jthomas> illriginal: whats up?
[11:11] <illriginal> jthomas... how you doin!
[11:12] <sa> rysiek|pl: so sat with the network setup for an hour before i figured out the problem....hehehe
[11:12] <jthomas> well, doin well...
[11:12] <rysiek|pl> sa: :)
[11:12] <illriginal> jthomas, my background is dark, and the font color of my time, and menu list as well as the tabs of open windows are all black
[11:12] <sa> rysiek|pl: that is the reason I wrote to you, sorry about the bugreport, I thought I would post it now
[11:12] <illriginal> jthomas, thus making it hard for me to see them properly
[11:13] <rysiek|pl> sa: huh? why are you apologizing? I don't get it
[11:13] <sa> rysiek|pl: havnt had the opportunity before as I have been travelling the past 2 weeks and just got back yesterday
[11:13] <illriginal> jthomas, what I would like to know is, is it possible to change the font color of the time/date, menu list, and open windows that are shown on the button bar?
[11:13] <illriginal> bottom*
[11:13] <jthomas> illriginal: change some colours maybe?  sorry i have to go, i thought i could help but i have to work ;(
[11:13] <illriginal> ok
[11:13] <sa> rysiek|pl: I was supposed to post a bug report and then mail it to you
[11:13] <kane> Quinn_Storm: ahhh i was using tracker-search-tool, but i think its written in GTK and not a kde app.
[11:14] <rysiek|pl> sa: I think I have posted it
[11:14] <Quinn_Storm> yeah that's gtk, but it'll have to do
[11:14] <Quinn_Storm> tracker is so much > than beagle
[11:14] <rysiek|pl> sa: don't quite remember, though
[11:14] <sa> rysiek|pl: ok, I'll post a report then
[11:14] <kane> yeah i liked it the little i used it.
[11:14] <rysiek|pl> sa: do a search first, should there be a similar one ;)
[11:14] <kane> Quinn_Storm: have you tried "kat"
[11:14] <sa> rysiek|pl: yuo will have to send me your email address again though...it is on my old retired computer
[11:14] <Quinn_Storm> hmm, no...
[11:15] <kane> i remember it came with an mandriva the last time i used it and its a KDE app.
[11:15] <sa> rysiek|pl: oh, ok
[11:15] <kane> but i dont know what back end it uses.
[11:15] <kane> i have not used to recenetly.
[11:15] <rysiek|pl> sa: rysiek_AT_rysiek.ath.cx
[11:15] <Quinn_Storm> it uses its own, kane , according to its description
[11:15] <illriginal> Can anyone help me with my desktop settings? Changing the font color of the menulist, date/time, etc...
[11:15] <sa> rysiek|pl: by the way, regarding changing desktop, I ment if there is a way to change with the keys
[11:16] <kane> ahh, i know when i used it a 2 or so years ago it was buggy as hell, i had to unisnstall it from the defualt mandrake install.
[11:16] <rysiek|pl> sa: sure, Ctrl+F<DESKTOP_NUMBER>
[11:16] <ShadyTree> you can configure it
[11:16] <rysiek|pl> sa: Ctrl+F1 for the first, etc
[11:16] <Quinn_Storm> kat is also defunct, according to its webpage
[11:16] <ShadyTree> I use Ctrl+Alt+ Arrow keys
[11:16] <rolnyzx> illriginal, click on kde icon and then system settings
[11:17] <kane> D'oh.  so it goes, might have to wait for "Strigi" or whatever its called for a proper KDE soluton.
[11:17] <rolnyzx> illriginal, then go to appearance
[11:17] <ShadyTree> System Settings - Keyboard & Mouse - Keyboard shortcuts
[11:17] <illriginal> rolynyzx, small problem! I'm on gnome!
[11:17] <sa> rysiek|pl: cool! thanx
[11:17] <illriginal> rolnyzx*
[11:18] <rolnyzx> illriginal, try this systemsettings
[11:18] <rysiek|pl> sa: no prob :)
[11:18] <illriginal> type that into terminal?
[11:18] <rolnyzx> yes
[11:18] <ShadyTree> does KDE have this:  a keyboard shortcut to stroll to the last desktop on the right, or left,  instead of autoscrolling to the opposite end
[11:18] <rolnyzx> try
[11:18] <illriginal> rolnyzx ah nice, i can install it :)
[11:18] <ShadyTree> I mean,  move to the right each destkop, but when it gets to the end, it stops
[11:18] <ShadyTree> like in GNOME
[11:19] <Quinn_Storm> yeah it looks like tracker is the KDE solution too, I hope at least, its FDO-approved
[11:19] <illriginal> rolnyzx kde systemsettings will work on gnome, yes?
[11:19] <rolnyzx> i don't know, but i would try
[11:19] <ShadyTree> test
[11:19] <kane> ShadyTree: hrm, i think beryl can be set to do that, but i dont know if you can without it.
[11:19] <illriginal> ok downloading right now :)
[11:20] <ShadyTree> kane, ok ty
[11:20] <sa> rysiek|pl: i had problems with the touch pad on my new comp but got it finally working
[11:21] <rysiek|pl> sa: :)
[11:21] <sa> rysiek|pl: :)
[11:22] <ShadyTree> can you theme the login screen too
[11:22] <ShadyTree> oh yeah, you can. but how
[11:22] <sa> rysiek|pl: I gotta get something to eat, will look into our bugreport! talk to you later, bye!
[11:22] <sa> bye everyone!
[11:22] <rysiek|pl> cya sa
[11:23] <ShadyTree> what is the login screen called, at kde-look.org
[11:23] <melkart> i can hear my own voice through the mic in the speakers, but i can't record it with krecord... how can i possibly fix this?
[11:23] <ShadyTree> I mean how do I change the login screen
 kmix
[11:25] <marko> you should put the mic's voulme to 0
[11:25] <marko> and let it on
[11:25] <melkart> marko: within kmix i turned the volume of "pcm", "front", "front mic", "line" and "mic" to max, the others to min... how should it be?
[11:25] <melkart> ok, wait..
 mic put to min line shut it off if you dont use it
[11:27] <melkart> within "krecord" if i go to "audio properties" the title says "OSS" sound system, although it should be alsa...
[11:27] <cox377> does anyone know how to make programs start up upon start from command line?
[11:28] <rolnyzx> cox377, ~/.kde/Autostart/
[11:29] <cox377> rolnyzx: umm what do i do with it mate?
[11:29] <melkart> when i try to play what i recorded, it says "device or ressouce busy"
[11:29] <rolnyzx> cox377, put your script in there and it will load when kde starts
[11:29] <marko> melkart
[11:29] <marko> do you use voip
[11:30] <marko> are they working
[11:30] <cox377> rolnyzx: ahh ok
[11:30] <melkart> marko: i dont know what voip is, sorry :/
[11:30] <blekos> hi, my kmail has stopped sending emails
[11:31] <blekos> no explainations, no nothing...
[11:31] <rolnyzx> blekos, are you using your own mailserver?
[11:31] <marko> melkart skype wengo etc..
[11:32] <melkart> marko: i tried to get skype to work, without success
[11:32] <melkart> my mic is known to work, however, under win xp
[11:32] <blekos> no,
[11:32] <marko> is mic button green
[11:32] <marko> sorry red
[11:32] <blekos> the funny thins,is i get mails, but 4 some reason, i cannot send
[11:33] <blekos> it doesnt even try...
[11:33] <melkart> marko: yes
[11:33] <marko> when you click it
[11:33] <marko> its dark red or
[11:33] <rolnyzx> blekos, have you tried some other client? maybe it's the server
[11:33] <melkart> marko: where could i click it? it's light red
[11:33] <marko> ok
[11:34] <marko> and the green button up
[11:34] <marko> is it light green or ?
[11:34] <blekos> how can it be the server? Kmail, doesnt even pop ups the window on the bottom right corner of attempting to send mail
[11:34] <blekos> my mails are just stuck in the outbox
[11:34] <melkart> marko: i dont understand what u mean
[11:34] <rolnyzx> blekos, you could try to reinstall kmail
[11:35] <marko> there is red button, a slider for volume and green button
[11:35] <ergomez> hola ayuda en espaol?
[11:35] <marko> the buttons should be light color
[11:35] <melkart> marko: in which program now? krecord?
[11:35] <marko> and the slider should be set to 0
[11:35] <marko> kmix
[11:36] <red__> ergomez: qual es tu problema?
[11:36] <rolnyzx> ergomez, #kubuntu-es
[11:36] <ergomez> jeje es que he formateado y he perdido los otros irc en espaol
[11:36] <melkart> marko: in the "input" tab or where?
[11:36] <ergomez> ese es gracias
[11:36] <marko> input
[11:36] <ergomez> kubuntu-es
[11:36] <ergomez>  jeje
[11:36] <marko> in mic
[11:37] <melkart> ok, i click the buttons now, they turn from dark red to light red
[11:37] <melkart> the sliders are both set to 0
[11:37] <marko> it should be light
[11:37] <marko> ok
[11:37] <marko> and green button should be also light
[11:37] <ergomez> red_ lo mismo puedes ayudarme
[11:37] <marko> and the others
[11:37] <ergomez> es una pregunta facil
[11:37] <marko> the other input what you have
[11:38] <illriginal> hm... seems like KDE-System Settings does NOT work with GNOME.
[11:38] <rolnyzx> illriginal, damn it
[11:39] <melkart> marko: thank you! i got to to work now! :)
[11:39] <melkart> marko: thanx to your help! :)
[11:39] <marko> it work
[11:39] <marko> good
[11:39] <melkart> :-)
[11:39] <illriginal> rolnyzx yeah.. maybe GNOME can't be changed easily? lol or Can't be changed at all?
[11:39] <ergomez> en ese canal no hay gente algn otro canal en espaol
[11:39] <marko> melkart no problem
[11:39] <marko> glad to help
[11:41] <rolnyzx> illriginal, ah i thought you wanted to change kde, for gnome, gnome-font-properties
[11:41] <melkart> marko: i can hear, what i record, with krecord now, but i still couldnt get skype to work yet... do u have any ideas about that, too?
[11:42] <rolnyzx> illriginal, for themes gnome-theme-manager
[11:42] <rolnyzx> ergomez, #ubuntu-es
[11:42] <marko> choose alsa in the settings menu in skype
[11:42] <marko> and restart it
[11:43] <melkart> marko: done that, still doesnt work
[11:43] <illriginal> rolnyzx for font, it only gives you choices for what font and font size, not the color :x
[11:43] <ergomez> gracias
[11:43] <marko> you make skype test call
[11:43] <melkart> marko: yes, i do... i dont hear my own recording
[11:44] <marko> and with krecord
[11:44] <melkart> with krecord i do hear my own recording
[11:47] <marko> melkart delete ~/.skype
[11:47] <marko> and then the settings should be restored to default
[11:49] <melkart> marko: oh... now the test call doesnt even begin, it says "problem with sound device"... settings are, as before, to alsa
[11:49] <Emess> hi, im having some issues installing Fesity, anyone available to help? when i booted the cd, it gave the error "[ 123.759943 ]  ata1: port failed to respond (30secs, Status 0xd0)" followed by a similar message "[ 170.837764 ]  Buffer I/O Error on device fd0, Logical Block 0"
[11:49] <melkart> marko: ah, now it works... mompls
[11:50] <pascali> comment installer codecs w32
[11:50] <melkart> marko: but i still cant hear my own recording
[11:50] <marko> melkart i had that problem before 3 months ago
[11:50] <marko> i didnt solved it
[11:51] <marko> uprade your ubuntu
[11:51] <marko> and reinstall skype
[11:52] <melkart> marko: ok, i'll try that (although i have the last release, but i havent yet updated all the packages to their latest version)
[11:53] <marko> you could try wengo phone to see if that work
[11:53] <melkart> marko: ok, i'll try that, too
[11:53] <Emess> eventually after displaying the second error 5 times it booted into the desktop, but when detecting the harddrive to install to nothing showed up
[11:54] <marko> wengo phone is actualy better than skype
[11:54] <marko> it support's camera in linux
[11:54] <marko> its open source
[11:54] <marko> and you can also connect it to msn yahoo jabber..
[11:56] <melkart> Emess: i cant help you :/ but i had a similar problem both with debian 4.0 and knoppix and "solved" it by using kubuntu - then it worked for me... :S
[11:56] <Emess> kubuntu is the problem, im not sure if its just my box or a kernel error tho, because syslogger doesnt have an entry for it :S
[11:57] <galaxygazer> Emess?? whats happening?
[11:58] <Emess> computer is taking ages to boot of the live cd and has an error "ata1: port failed to respond (30 secs, Status 0xd0)" and "Buffer I/O Error on device fd0, Logical Block 0"
[12:02] <Emess> any ideas?
[12:04] <Emess> ok, going to try edgy then try upgrading
[12:05] <bharath> emess, what seems to be the problem?
[12:06] <deadowl> does anyone here know a lot about wireless networking?
[12:10] <TheCreationist> What program do I use to add files to an .ISO image?
[12:10] <melkart> marko: cant get it to work (neither skype nor wengo) with upgraded kubuntu
[12:11] <marko> i'm not surre