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mptGooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!03:30
jmlmpt: :D03:36
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Hobbseebah.  i still hate the way that launchpad handles the kde bugtracker.  i should really file a bug05:35
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ubotuNew bug: #117677 in soyuz "PPA uploads appear equal to normal uploads in distro `Latest Uploads' listing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11767706:10
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Hobbseewhat????06:20
Hobbseethere's no duplicate bug header.06:20
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mptHobbsee, did you report the bug about the KDE bugtracker?06:54
Hobbseempt: no.  i've been trying to figure out where it's getting that info - if it's a pebkac error, and just unclear, or what06:54
mptCommon pebkac error = interface design error06:55
Hobbseetrue that06:56
Hobbseethere's only one upstream bugtracker for kde, so there's no need for a kdebase contact, kdepim, and whatever else - which is still missing some packages anyway06:56
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mptWhat's a "kdebase contact"?06:57
Hobbseenfi06:57
Hobbseeupstream for kdebase06:57
Hobbseeah ha!  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/85303/+add-affected-product?field.product=kdebase is correct06:58
ubotuLaunchpad bug 85303 in kdebase "No warning before reboot, when harddrive full" [High,Confirmed]  06:58
Hobbseejust why cant we do that for all kde packages, easily?06:58
Hobbseethat's the way it's supposed to work06:59
Hobbseealthough, then https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase/+bugs is created, which is odd.  kdebase upstream is not using launchpad to track it's bugs06:59
Hobbseempt: i'm slightly hesitant to report a bug until i figure out what it's actually trying to do07:09
mptThat page should have a disclaimer saying something like "These are only bug reports that Launchpad tracks because of their relationship to bug reports on software that uses Launchpad for bug tracking. See _KDE's bug tracker_ for a complete list of bugs in upstream kdebase."07:11
mptor something much less wordy than that.07:11
Hobbseei'm more wanting to know why there isnt a kde project or something that means you can just "mark as upstream", pick kde, not kdebase, or whatever k* looks interesting, and add the URL.07:12
Hobbseempt: but something like that'd be good.  mind you, it's hard to find that page anyway.07:14
Hobbseei think a list of all kde upstream bugs might not be so bad anyway.  *shrug*07:14
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SteveAmorning!08:56
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dholbachgood morning09:39
dholbachcan somebody take care of https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/6626 ?09:39
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carlosmorning09:55
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dholbachcan somebody take care of https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/6626 ?11:53
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mrevelldholbach: I'll mail salgado, I think he's the person who could do that.11:55
dholbachalrighty11:55
dholbachthanks mrevell11:55
mrevelldholbach: np :)11:55
ubotuNew bug: #117723 in soyuz "override generation broken for gutsy" [Critical,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11772312:00
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jam-laptophi all. Does anyone know how to clear out spam from the Q&A section?02:17
jam-laptophttps://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/736302:17
jam-laptopseems to have a lot of port spam02:17
jam-laptopporn spam02:17
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jam-laptopOriginally, they had put it in an edited form of the original question02:18
jam-laptopbut they seem to have gone for a comment02:18
jam-laptopwhich needs to be removed02:18
jam-laptopand probably the user needs to be banned02:18
kikojam-laptop, I'll talk to tom about it.02:21
jam-laptopkiko: thanks02:21
vorianhow do you "run update" on a bzr branch?02:22
jam-laptop'bzr update path/to/branch"02:22
vorianty jam-laptop :)02:22
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ubotuNew bug: #117741 in launchpad "need ability to flag and hide off-topic comments" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11774102:36
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siretartcprov: excuse me, https://dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/ffmpeg/3:0.svn20070525-0ubuntu1~ppa3 is broken, and I think it should show my ppa upload03:01
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siretarthi Hobbsee 03:01
Hobbsee:)03:01
cprovsiretart: just a second and I will check that for you03:02
cprovsiretart: pages should not work for ppa03:02
siretartcprov: well, then they shouldn't be linked from https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~siretart/+packages03:03
siretartcprov: is there any way to see a list of packages, along with their build logs from some page in launchpad/03:03
cprovsiretart: yes, they should not03:03
siretart?03:03
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cprovsiretart: not yet, no UI for PPA other than the builder history and spread build records03:04
cprovsiretart: sorry for that, I thought I was clear about the current lack of specific UI for PPAs03:05
siretartcprov: no problem03:05
siretartcprov: can you remove packages from my ppa for me?03:05
cprovsiretart: only if you say that it's mandatory ;) 03:06
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cprovsiretart: right now, it's quite time consuming (I'm still working on the script or removals)03:07
siretartno, its just that I made a mistake, and I don't want to update ffmpeg to 20070525, but stay at 20070303 for now. it would be great if I could test it in my ppa03:08
siretartcprov: no problem, leave it. would be great if you could ping me if you want to test your removal script when you get to it ;)03:08
cprovsiretart: sure, will do03:09
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ubotuNew bug: #117752 in malone "Any logged in user can delete any attachments" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11775203:55
BjornTtime for this week's non-au reviewer meeting04:01
BjornT== Agenda ==04:01
BjornT * Roll call04:01
BjornT * Next meeting04:01
BjornT * Queue status04:01
BjornT * Other business04:01
BjornTwho's here?04:01
flacosteme<04:01
bacme04:01
salgadome04:02
statikme04:02
flacostebarry: ping04:03
BjornTbarry might still be on the phone with sabdfl 04:03
BjornT== Next meeting ==04:04
BjornTnext meeting will be 2007-06-06 at 1400 UTC as usual.04:05
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BjornT== Queue status ==04:06
BjornTthere are 13 (same as last week) open reviews, 6 of them are slightly over the 2 day service target.04:07
BjornTSteveA: you still have mpt's text-change branch in your queue, which is more than one month old.04:07
flacosteand one of those is unassigned04:07
BjornToh, right, that's the one statik rejected.04:08
BjornTi'll re-assign it after the meeting.04:08
BjornToverall the queue doesn't look too bad, though, but please review your branches soon salgado and barry 04:09
BjornT== Other business ==04:10
BjornTanything else?04:10
salgadoI'll do mine today04:10
BjornTthanks salgado 04:10
BjornTok, that's it, short meeting today. meeting ended.04:11
BjornTthanks for coming!04:11
salgadothanks BjornT 04:11
statikthanks BjornT04:12
barryjust got off the phone w/sabdfl.  i'll review my branch today.04:16
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bdmurraybug 92488 seems to have gotten some spam05:17
ubotuLaunchpad bug 92488 in Ubuntu "Lost USB Cable Modem Detection After Dapper" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/92488 - Assigned to Brian Murray (brian-murray)05:17
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bdmurraybut the user account seems / was okay at one point05:18
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jam-laptopmthaddon: ping05:36
mthaddonjam-laptop: pong05:37
jam-laptopmthaddon: thanks for deleting the spam. I was just curious what the standard procedure for that sort of thing is05:37
mthaddonat the moment, notifying admins will get spam comments deleted, but we're working on a better infrastructure for this...05:38
jam-laptopk05:38
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SteveAmthaddon: I'd like to talk with you about writing some scripts to analyze the launchpad logs, and get the IP addresses used by the spammers, so we can consider banning those addresses05:49
mthaddonSteveA: sounds good - want to do that now or later/part of infra meeting?05:50
ubotuNew bug: #117780 in soyuz "packages unnecessarily symlinked to other component" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11778005:50
SteveAmthaddon: tomorrow in the meeting please05:51
mthaddongreat05:51
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salgadoflacoste_lunch, can you review https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/salgado/launchpad/bug-65488/full-diff for me today?07:13
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flacostesalgado: no problem, what is the bug that this branch address?07:39
salgadobug 6548807:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 65488 in launchpad "Need a whiteboard for distribution mirrors" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/65488 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado)07:40
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flacostesalgado: i have a few small things to finish first and i'll be on your review next, expect a reply later this afternoon07:43
salgadocool. thanks a lot, flacoste 07:43
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seb128hey08:38
seb128kiko: around?08:38
kikoseb128, yeah08:38
seb128kiko: do you know what's going on with bugs nominated for gutsy and access control?08:38
seb128it's pretty frustrating to have people opening random ones and not been able to clean them08:39
kikoseb128, you can reject them, and drivers can deny nomination -- matsubara, can you chat a bit with seb128 to see what his concern is?08:39
matsubaraseb128: do you have an example?08:40
seb128matsubara: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/11781408:42
ubotuLaunchpad bug 117814 in pidgin "upgrade pidgin to 2.0.1" [Undecided,Confirmed]  08:42
seb128I used to have accept/deny next to the nomination text08:42
BjornTseb128: only drivers can accept/deny nominations atm, it has always been like that. you probably were in the driver team before.08:48
BjornTseb128: this will change in the next rollout, though; then all uploaders will get permission to accept/deny nominations.08:48
seb128BjornT: ok, thanks, that has been discussed on the list but I was not sure of what changes were planned now and for when08:49
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keescookso, who is able to approve release nominations now?09:06
matsubarakeescook: drivers only. according to BjornT that will change in the next release. Uploaders will get the permission as well09:07
keescookmatsubara: since I do security updates for all the stable releases, it would be really handy if I could approve them too.09:08
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keescookwhat is a "driver", and does it make sense for me to be one?09:08
matsubarakeescook: as an workaround I think you could be added to the Ubuntu Drivers team09:09
keescookmatsubara: okay, I will ask colin about it.  thanks!09:10
matsubaraBjornT: is there a bug/spec where you're tracking "uploaders should get permission to approve nominations" work?09:10
LaserJockkeescook: I think ubuntu-core-dev is a driver09:11
keescookLaserJock: doesn't seem to be :(  I can't approve nominations, anyway.09:11
LaserJockor at least they were, but seb128's comment makes me wonder if that's changed09:11
seb128keescook: that has been discussed on the distro list and will be fixed with next update09:16
keescookseb128: ah, what will the solution become?09:16
seb128keescook: that's annoying not only for security, only for people targetting bugs to fix for gutsy, SRU to do, etc09:16
seb128keescook: 09:16
seb128"<BjornT> seb128: only drivers can accept/deny nominations atm, it has always been like that. you probably were in the driver team before.09:16
seb128 seb128: this will change in the next rollout, though; then all uploaders will get permission to accept/deny nominations."09:16
seb128I asked like 10 minutes before you joined :p09:17
keescookAh, I misunderstood what "uploaders" meant here.  I get it now.  thanks!09:17
seb128no problem ;)09:19
ubotuNew bug: #117829 in soyuz "Allow PPA only for 'launchpad-beta-testers' members" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11782909:21
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BjornTmatsubara: although it's a bit misnamed maybe, this is the spec: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/malone/+spec/motu-bug-persmissions09:33
matsubaraBjornT: thanks. Any plan to fix bug 114766 in this cycle as well?09:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 114766 in malone "Only bug contacts should be able to nominate a bug for a release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11476609:35
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kikomatsubara, BjornT: I'm not even sure that makes sense09:49
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carlosnight!09:56
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Kmoshttps://help.launchpad.net/KarmaCalculation10:02
Kmosit's normal help.launchpad.net don't check user authentication ?10:03
Kmosit says on top.. "Login"10:03
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kikoKmos, that's a separate site.10:10
kikoyes it's confusing10:10
Kmosok10:11
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LaserJockkiko: what version of launchpad is launchpad.net running now?10:23
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kikoLaserJock, 1.1.510:23
LaserJockoh really?10:24
LaserJockI thought it was older10:24
LaserJockand is beta. at 1.1.5 too or are they separate altogether10:24
czris it possible to use launchpad to host the whole oss project?10:25
czr(sry for the stupid question, but I can't seem to find that info on the about-pages :-)10:25
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kikoLaserJock, beta is frozen but I believe edge is auto-updating.10:30
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BjornTmatsubara: no, 114766 is not targeted for this cycle. i think it's better to see how the current system (after the next rollout) works. it might be that there's no need to fix that bug.10:35
kikoagreed10:36
matsubaraBjornT: thanks. I'll add that to the report. it also answers the question I asked you there. :-)10:39
LaserJockcprov: how does PPA currently handle sending packages to different components, i.e. Universe, or does it?10:40
cprovLaserJock: it works exactly like the main soyuz, including ogre-model for building10:41
cprovLaserJock: so, you are probably going to need it at some point10:42
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mantienaHi all10:42
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cprovLaserJock: have you uploaded new packages ?10:42
matsubaraKmos: bug 104848 seems fixed, btw10:44
ubotuLaunchpad bug 104848 in hwdb-client "Bad english translation on hwdb-client" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10484810:44
matsubaraKmos: nm me. just spotted the error.10:44
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Kmosmatsubara: i checked the translation and still there10:45
matsubaraKmos: yeah, my mistake. misread it10:45
LaserJockcprov: I just did that one with you on Monday10:46
LaserJockbut it put it into Main, and I wondered how the PPAs will handle that10:47
cprovLaserJock: shame on you ;) 10:47
LaserJockcurrently aren't overrides used in the Ubuntu archives?10:47
LaserJockcprov: yes, I know. and it was a FTBFS too, I should fix that ;-)10:48
Kmoshttps://launchpad.net/products/ -> Sorry, you can't do this right now10:48
cprovLaserJock: yes, we use auto-override in ubuntu archive, but we also support proper rich sections syntax like 'universe/misc'10:49
LaserJockah10:49
mantienaare there any launchpad admins ? There is a big problem, which makes another Ubuntu-based distros do not use launchopad for bugs, etc10:49
LaserJockcprov: I'll give it a try next upload10:50
LaserJockmantiena: I think it's helpful to explain your problem/question, then the appropriate people can respond10:50
mantienaI'm main developer of Ubuntu-based distro - Baltix and ~2 years ago I started to use launchpad for bugs and other task10:50
mantienabut more than one year I can't register new milestone or new release in launchpad for Baltix :(10:51
cprovLaserJock: great, thanks 10:51
mantienalook at https://launchpad.net/baltix/+milestones10:52
mthaddonLaunchpad is down - issue with the DB server - currently working on it10:52
mantienamthaddon: I'm talking not about this issue10:52
mthaddonmantiena: ok, I wasn't notifying just you...10:53
kikomthaddon, garr10:58
mantienaI'm talking about forbiding to register new milestones/releases of other distros :(11:03
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mantienakiko: AFAIK you told me ~6 months ago, that maintainers of other distros will be able to use launchpad in this spring...11:11
ubotuNew bug: #3158 in soyuz "policy needs extending to support > 1 binary build per upload" [High,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/315811:11
mthaddonLaunchpad is back up again - please let us know if there are any issues11:11
pochumantiena: are you a driver for Baltix?11:12
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mantienapochu: yes11:17
pochuSo you're Mantas... hi :)11:18
mantienapochu: but problem is not only for Baltix - look at https://launchpad.net/distros - all distros, except Ubuntu don't have releases or milestones registered :(11:19
mantienapochu: yes, hi ;)11:19
pochumantiena: is there a bug report about it?11:19
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mantienapochu: I think so, you need the number ?11:20
mantienapochu: btw, why you are asking my name ? You know me ?11:21
pochumantiena: no, but there's just one Driver for Baltix, and maybe you thought you were a driver and you weren't... :)11:22
mantiena:)11:23
mantienayea, it would be pretty strange situation if I think, that I'm a driver, but I aren't...11:24
LaserJockcprov: hmm, I uploaded a new package ~20 min ago but haven't gotten an email, package is plotdrop again11:27
LaserJockcprov: did the LP outage mess something up?11:28
cprovLaserJock: let me check11:28
mantienaso, it seems all launchpad admins are away ? :(11:28
mantienacprov: do you get an "Forbiddent" error when go https://launchpad.net/baltix/+addrelease ?11:30
mptGoooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders!11:30
mantienampt: morning ? ;)11:30
cprovmantiena: Unauthorized, since I'm not Admin in that context11:31
pochumantiena: Bug #5825011:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 58250 in launchpad "Unofficial distribution releases should not be allowed to use milestones" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/5825011:31
mantienapochu: why this bug is unconfirmed ?11:35
pochumantiena: because nobody has confirmed it :p11:36
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LaserJockcprov: doh, rejected. is there a way to get that plotdrop package in my PPA removed? 11:36
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cprovLaserJock: I'm working on the archive-maintenance scripts for PPA11:37
cprovLaserJock: i.e., not right now, neither quickly 11:38
tormodhi I am angry >:( My eyes are dead tired after reading minuscule text in light-gray on white background!11:38
cprovLaserJock: why was it rejected ?11:38
tormodthis has been complained about since the "new" launchpad was pushed on us11:38
tormodwhat's the reason for not doing anything about it?11:38
tormodhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/8747111:39
ubotuLaunchpad bug 87471 in launchpad "Grey text is unnecessarily difficult to read" [Undecided,Confirmed]  11:39
LaserJockcprov: because I used a Debian version number on the first upload11:42
LaserJockcprov: since this is just messing around I'll just bump the version up so it's bigger than the first one ;-)11:43
cprovLaserJock: you could also use new epoch, but simply bumping the version will do too11:44
LaserJockcprov: it was just a -1 vs -0ubuntu1, I just made it -1ubuntu111:47
cprovLaserJock: your PPA, your rules ;)11:49
LaserJockmwuahahaha11:49
LaserJock^^ evil laugh11:49
cprovLaserJock: ehe11:50
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