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mpt | Gooooooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders! | 03:30 |
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jml | mpt: :D | 03:36 |
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Hobbsee | bah. i still hate the way that launchpad handles the kde bugtracker. i should really file a bug | 05:35 |
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ubotu | New bug: #117677 in soyuz "PPA uploads appear equal to normal uploads in distro `Latest Uploads' listing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117677 | 06:10 |
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Hobbsee | what???? | 06:20 |
Hobbsee | there's no duplicate bug header. | 06:20 |
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mpt | Hobbsee, did you report the bug about the KDE bugtracker? | 06:54 |
Hobbsee | mpt: no. i've been trying to figure out where it's getting that info - if it's a pebkac error, and just unclear, or what | 06:54 |
mpt | Common pebkac error = interface design error | 06:55 |
Hobbsee | true that | 06:56 |
Hobbsee | there's only one upstream bugtracker for kde, so there's no need for a kdebase contact, kdepim, and whatever else - which is still missing some packages anyway | 06:56 |
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mpt | What's a "kdebase contact"? | 06:57 |
Hobbsee | nfi | 06:57 |
Hobbsee | upstream for kdebase | 06:57 |
Hobbsee | ah ha! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/85303/+add-affected-product?field.product=kdebase is correct | 06:58 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 85303 in kdebase "No warning before reboot, when harddrive full" [High,Confirmed] | 06:58 |
Hobbsee | just why cant we do that for all kde packages, easily? | 06:58 |
Hobbsee | that's the way it's supposed to work | 06:59 |
Hobbsee | although, then https://bugs.launchpad.net/kdebase/+bugs is created, which is odd. kdebase upstream is not using launchpad to track it's bugs | 06:59 |
Hobbsee | mpt: i'm slightly hesitant to report a bug until i figure out what it's actually trying to do | 07:09 |
mpt | That page should have a disclaimer saying something like "These are only bug reports that Launchpad tracks because of their relationship to bug reports on software that uses Launchpad for bug tracking. See _KDE's bug tracker_ for a complete list of bugs in upstream kdebase." | 07:11 |
mpt | or something much less wordy than that. | 07:11 |
Hobbsee | i'm more wanting to know why there isnt a kde project or something that means you can just "mark as upstream", pick kde, not kdebase, or whatever k* looks interesting, and add the URL. | 07:12 |
Hobbsee | mpt: but something like that'd be good. mind you, it's hard to find that page anyway. | 07:14 |
Hobbsee | i think a list of all kde upstream bugs might not be so bad anyway. *shrug* | 07:14 |
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SteveA | morning! | 08:56 |
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dholbach | good morning | 09:39 |
dholbach | can somebody take care of https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/6626 ? | 09:39 |
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carlos | morning | 09:55 |
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dholbach | can somebody take care of https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/6626 ? | 11:53 |
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mrevell | dholbach: I'll mail salgado, I think he's the person who could do that. | 11:55 |
dholbach | alrighty | 11:55 |
dholbach | thanks mrevell | 11:55 |
mrevell | dholbach: np :) | 11:55 |
ubotu | New bug: #117723 in soyuz "override generation broken for gutsy" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117723 | 12:00 |
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jam-laptop | hi all. Does anyone know how to clear out spam from the Q&A section? | 02:17 |
jam-laptop | https://answers.launchpad.net/bzr/+question/7363 | 02:17 |
jam-laptop | seems to have a lot of port spam | 02:17 |
jam-laptop | porn spam | 02:17 |
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jam-laptop | Originally, they had put it in an edited form of the original question | 02:18 |
jam-laptop | but they seem to have gone for a comment | 02:18 |
jam-laptop | which needs to be removed | 02:18 |
jam-laptop | and probably the user needs to be banned | 02:18 |
kiko | jam-laptop, I'll talk to tom about it. | 02:21 |
jam-laptop | kiko: thanks | 02:21 |
vorian | how do you "run update" on a bzr branch? | 02:22 |
jam-laptop | 'bzr update path/to/branch" | 02:22 |
vorian | ty jam-laptop :) | 02:22 |
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ubotu | New bug: #117741 in launchpad "need ability to flag and hide off-topic comments" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117741 | 02:36 |
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siretart | cprov: excuse me, https://dogfood.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/ffmpeg/3:0.svn20070525-0ubuntu1~ppa3 is broken, and I think it should show my ppa upload | 03:01 |
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siretart | hi Hobbsee | 03:01 |
Hobbsee | :) | 03:01 |
cprov | siretart: just a second and I will check that for you | 03:02 |
cprov | siretart: pages should not work for ppa | 03:02 |
siretart | cprov: well, then they shouldn't be linked from https://dogfood.launchpad.net/~siretart/+packages | 03:03 |
siretart | cprov: is there any way to see a list of packages, along with their build logs from some page in launchpad/ | 03:03 |
cprov | siretart: yes, they should not | 03:03 |
siretart | ? | 03:03 |
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cprov | siretart: not yet, no UI for PPA other than the builder history and spread build records | 03:04 |
cprov | siretart: sorry for that, I thought I was clear about the current lack of specific UI for PPAs | 03:05 |
siretart | cprov: no problem | 03:05 |
siretart | cprov: can you remove packages from my ppa for me? | 03:05 |
cprov | siretart: only if you say that it's mandatory ;) | 03:06 |
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cprov | siretart: right now, it's quite time consuming (I'm still working on the script or removals) | 03:07 |
siretart | no, its just that I made a mistake, and I don't want to update ffmpeg to 20070525, but stay at 20070303 for now. it would be great if I could test it in my ppa | 03:08 |
siretart | cprov: no problem, leave it. would be great if you could ping me if you want to test your removal script when you get to it ;) | 03:08 |
cprov | siretart: sure, will do | 03:09 |
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ubotu | New bug: #117752 in malone "Any logged in user can delete any attachments" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117752 | 03:55 |
BjornT | time for this week's non-au reviewer meeting | 04:01 |
BjornT | == Agenda == | 04:01 |
BjornT | * Roll call | 04:01 |
BjornT | * Next meeting | 04:01 |
BjornT | * Queue status | 04:01 |
BjornT | * Other business | 04:01 |
BjornT | who's here? | 04:01 |
flacoste | me< | 04:01 |
bac | me | 04:01 |
salgado | me | 04:02 |
statik | me | 04:02 |
flacoste | barry: ping | 04:03 |
BjornT | barry might still be on the phone with sabdfl | 04:03 |
BjornT | == Next meeting == | 04:04 |
BjornT | next meeting will be 2007-06-06 at 1400 UTC as usual. | 04:05 |
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BjornT | == Queue status == | 04:06 |
BjornT | there are 13 (same as last week) open reviews, 6 of them are slightly over the 2 day service target. | 04:07 |
BjornT | SteveA: you still have mpt's text-change branch in your queue, which is more than one month old. | 04:07 |
flacoste | and one of those is unassigned | 04:07 |
BjornT | oh, right, that's the one statik rejected. | 04:08 |
BjornT | i'll re-assign it after the meeting. | 04:08 |
BjornT | overall the queue doesn't look too bad, though, but please review your branches soon salgado and barry | 04:09 |
BjornT | == Other business == | 04:10 |
BjornT | anything else? | 04:10 |
salgado | I'll do mine today | 04:10 |
BjornT | thanks salgado | 04:10 |
BjornT | ok, that's it, short meeting today. meeting ended. | 04:11 |
BjornT | thanks for coming! | 04:11 |
salgado | thanks BjornT | 04:11 |
statik | thanks BjornT | 04:12 |
barry | just got off the phone w/sabdfl. i'll review my branch today. | 04:16 |
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bdmurray | bug 92488 seems to have gotten some spam | 05:17 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 92488 in Ubuntu "Lost USB Cable Modem Detection After Dapper" [Undecided,Needs info] https://launchpad.net/bugs/92488 - Assigned to Brian Murray (brian-murray) | 05:17 |
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bdmurray | but the user account seems / was okay at one point | 05:18 |
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jam-laptop | mthaddon: ping | 05:36 |
mthaddon | jam-laptop: pong | 05:37 |
jam-laptop | mthaddon: thanks for deleting the spam. I was just curious what the standard procedure for that sort of thing is | 05:37 |
mthaddon | at the moment, notifying admins will get spam comments deleted, but we're working on a better infrastructure for this... | 05:38 |
jam-laptop | k | 05:38 |
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SteveA | mthaddon: I'd like to talk with you about writing some scripts to analyze the launchpad logs, and get the IP addresses used by the spammers, so we can consider banning those addresses | 05:49 |
mthaddon | SteveA: sounds good - want to do that now or later/part of infra meeting? | 05:50 |
ubotu | New bug: #117780 in soyuz "packages unnecessarily symlinked to other component" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117780 | 05:50 |
SteveA | mthaddon: tomorrow in the meeting please | 05:51 |
mthaddon | great | 05:51 |
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salgado | flacoste_lunch, can you review https://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/pending-reviews/salgado/launchpad/bug-65488/full-diff for me today? | 07:13 |
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flacoste | salgado: no problem, what is the bug that this branch address? | 07:39 |
salgado | bug 65488 | 07:40 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 65488 in launchpad "Need a whiteboard for distribution mirrors" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65488 - Assigned to Guilherme Salgado (salgado) | 07:40 |
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flacoste | salgado: i have a few small things to finish first and i'll be on your review next, expect a reply later this afternoon | 07:43 |
salgado | cool. thanks a lot, flacoste | 07:43 |
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seb128 | hey | 08:38 |
seb128 | kiko: around? | 08:38 |
kiko | seb128, yeah | 08:38 |
seb128 | kiko: do you know what's going on with bugs nominated for gutsy and access control? | 08:38 |
seb128 | it's pretty frustrating to have people opening random ones and not been able to clean them | 08:39 |
kiko | seb128, you can reject them, and drivers can deny nomination -- matsubara, can you chat a bit with seb128 to see what his concern is? | 08:39 |
matsubara | seb128: do you have an example? | 08:40 |
seb128 | matsubara: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/117814 | 08:42 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 117814 in pidgin "upgrade pidgin to 2.0.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:42 |
seb128 | I used to have accept/deny next to the nomination text | 08:42 |
BjornT | seb128: only drivers can accept/deny nominations atm, it has always been like that. you probably were in the driver team before. | 08:48 |
BjornT | seb128: this will change in the next rollout, though; then all uploaders will get permission to accept/deny nominations. | 08:48 |
seb128 | BjornT: ok, thanks, that has been discussed on the list but I was not sure of what changes were planned now and for when | 08:49 |
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keescook | so, who is able to approve release nominations now? | 09:06 |
matsubara | keescook: drivers only. according to BjornT that will change in the next release. Uploaders will get the permission as well | 09:07 |
keescook | matsubara: since I do security updates for all the stable releases, it would be really handy if I could approve them too. | 09:08 |
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keescook | what is a "driver", and does it make sense for me to be one? | 09:08 |
matsubara | keescook: as an workaround I think you could be added to the Ubuntu Drivers team | 09:09 |
keescook | matsubara: okay, I will ask colin about it. thanks! | 09:10 |
matsubara | BjornT: is there a bug/spec where you're tracking "uploaders should get permission to approve nominations" work? | 09:10 |
LaserJock | keescook: I think ubuntu-core-dev is a driver | 09:11 |
keescook | LaserJock: doesn't seem to be :( I can't approve nominations, anyway. | 09:11 |
LaserJock | or at least they were, but seb128's comment makes me wonder if that's changed | 09:11 |
seb128 | keescook: that has been discussed on the distro list and will be fixed with next update | 09:16 |
keescook | seb128: ah, what will the solution become? | 09:16 |
seb128 | keescook: that's annoying not only for security, only for people targetting bugs to fix for gutsy, SRU to do, etc | 09:16 |
seb128 | keescook: | 09:16 |
seb128 | "<BjornT> seb128: only drivers can accept/deny nominations atm, it has always been like that. you probably were in the driver team before. | 09:16 |
seb128 | seb128: this will change in the next rollout, though; then all uploaders will get permission to accept/deny nominations." | 09:16 |
seb128 | I asked like 10 minutes before you joined :p | 09:17 |
keescook | Ah, I misunderstood what "uploaders" meant here. I get it now. thanks! | 09:17 |
seb128 | no problem ;) | 09:19 |
ubotu | New bug: #117829 in soyuz "Allow PPA only for 'launchpad-beta-testers' members" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/117829 | 09:21 |
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BjornT | matsubara: although it's a bit misnamed maybe, this is the spec: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/malone/+spec/motu-bug-persmissions | 09:33 |
matsubara | BjornT: thanks. Any plan to fix bug 114766 in this cycle as well? | 09:35 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 114766 in malone "Only bug contacts should be able to nominate a bug for a release" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/114766 | 09:35 |
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kiko | matsubara, BjornT: I'm not even sure that makes sense | 09:49 |
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carlos | night! | 09:56 |
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Kmos | https://help.launchpad.net/KarmaCalculation | 10:02 |
Kmos | it's normal help.launchpad.net don't check user authentication ? | 10:03 |
Kmos | it says on top.. "Login" | 10:03 |
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kiko | Kmos, that's a separate site. | 10:10 |
kiko | yes it's confusing | 10:10 |
Kmos | ok | 10:11 |
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LaserJock | kiko: what version of launchpad is launchpad.net running now? | 10:23 |
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kiko | LaserJock, 1.1.5 | 10:23 |
LaserJock | oh really? | 10:24 |
LaserJock | I thought it was older | 10:24 |
LaserJock | and is beta. at 1.1.5 too or are they separate altogether | 10:24 |
czr | is it possible to use launchpad to host the whole oss project? | 10:25 |
czr | (sry for the stupid question, but I can't seem to find that info on the about-pages :-) | 10:25 |
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kiko | LaserJock, beta is frozen but I believe edge is auto-updating. | 10:30 |
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BjornT | matsubara: no, 114766 is not targeted for this cycle. i think it's better to see how the current system (after the next rollout) works. it might be that there's no need to fix that bug. | 10:35 |
kiko | agreed | 10:36 |
matsubara | BjornT: thanks. I'll add that to the report. it also answers the question I asked you there. :-) | 10:39 |
LaserJock | cprov: how does PPA currently handle sending packages to different components, i.e. Universe, or does it? | 10:40 |
cprov | LaserJock: it works exactly like the main soyuz, including ogre-model for building | 10:41 |
cprov | LaserJock: so, you are probably going to need it at some point | 10:42 |
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mantiena | Hi all | 10:42 |
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cprov | LaserJock: have you uploaded new packages ? | 10:42 |
matsubara | Kmos: bug 104848 seems fixed, btw | 10:44 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 104848 in hwdb-client "Bad english translation on hwdb-client" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104848 | 10:44 |
matsubara | Kmos: nm me. just spotted the error. | 10:44 |
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Kmos | matsubara: i checked the translation and still there | 10:45 |
matsubara | Kmos: yeah, my mistake. misread it | 10:45 |
LaserJock | cprov: I just did that one with you on Monday | 10:46 |
LaserJock | but it put it into Main, and I wondered how the PPAs will handle that | 10:47 |
cprov | LaserJock: shame on you ;) | 10:47 |
LaserJock | currently aren't overrides used in the Ubuntu archives? | 10:47 |
LaserJock | cprov: yes, I know. and it was a FTBFS too, I should fix that ;-) | 10:48 |
Kmos | https://launchpad.net/products/ -> Sorry, you can't do this right now | 10:48 |
cprov | LaserJock: yes, we use auto-override in ubuntu archive, but we also support proper rich sections syntax like 'universe/misc' | 10:49 |
LaserJock | ah | 10:49 |
mantiena | are there any launchpad admins ? There is a big problem, which makes another Ubuntu-based distros do not use launchopad for bugs, etc | 10:49 |
LaserJock | cprov: I'll give it a try next upload | 10:50 |
LaserJock | mantiena: I think it's helpful to explain your problem/question, then the appropriate people can respond | 10:50 |
mantiena | I'm main developer of Ubuntu-based distro - Baltix and ~2 years ago I started to use launchpad for bugs and other task | 10:50 |
mantiena | but more than one year I can't register new milestone or new release in launchpad for Baltix :( | 10:51 |
cprov | LaserJock: great, thanks | 10:51 |
mantiena | look at https://launchpad.net/baltix/+milestones | 10:52 |
mthaddon | Launchpad is down - issue with the DB server - currently working on it | 10:52 |
mantiena | mthaddon: I'm talking not about this issue | 10:52 |
mthaddon | mantiena: ok, I wasn't notifying just you... | 10:53 |
kiko | mthaddon, garr | 10:58 |
mantiena | I'm talking about forbiding to register new milestones/releases of other distros :( | 11:03 |
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mantiena | kiko: AFAIK you told me ~6 months ago, that maintainers of other distros will be able to use launchpad in this spring... | 11:11 |
ubotu | New bug: #3158 in soyuz "policy needs extending to support > 1 binary build per upload" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3158 | 11:11 |
mthaddon | Launchpad is back up again - please let us know if there are any issues | 11:11 |
pochu | mantiena: are you a driver for Baltix? | 11:12 |
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mantiena | pochu: yes | 11:17 |
pochu | So you're Mantas... hi :) | 11:18 |
mantiena | pochu: but problem is not only for Baltix - look at https://launchpad.net/distros - all distros, except Ubuntu don't have releases or milestones registered :( | 11:19 |
mantiena | pochu: yes, hi ;) | 11:19 |
pochu | mantiena: is there a bug report about it? | 11:19 |
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mantiena | pochu: I think so, you need the number ? | 11:20 |
mantiena | pochu: btw, why you are asking my name ? You know me ? | 11:21 |
pochu | mantiena: no, but there's just one Driver for Baltix, and maybe you thought you were a driver and you weren't... :) | 11:22 |
mantiena | :) | 11:23 |
mantiena | yea, it would be pretty strange situation if I think, that I'm a driver, but I aren't... | 11:24 |
LaserJock | cprov: hmm, I uploaded a new package ~20 min ago but haven't gotten an email, package is plotdrop again | 11:27 |
LaserJock | cprov: did the LP outage mess something up? | 11:28 |
cprov | LaserJock: let me check | 11:28 |
mantiena | so, it seems all launchpad admins are away ? :( | 11:28 |
mantiena | cprov: do you get an "Forbiddent" error when go https://launchpad.net/baltix/+addrelease ? | 11:30 |
mpt | Goooooooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | 11:30 |
mantiena | mpt: morning ? ;) | 11:30 |
cprov | mantiena: Unauthorized, since I'm not Admin in that context | 11:31 |
pochu | mantiena: Bug #58250 | 11:31 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 58250 in launchpad "Unofficial distribution releases should not be allowed to use milestones" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/58250 | 11:31 |
mantiena | pochu: why this bug is unconfirmed ? | 11:35 |
pochu | mantiena: because nobody has confirmed it :p | 11:36 |
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LaserJock | cprov: doh, rejected. is there a way to get that plotdrop package in my PPA removed? | 11:36 |
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cprov | LaserJock: I'm working on the archive-maintenance scripts for PPA | 11:37 |
cprov | LaserJock: i.e., not right now, neither quickly | 11:38 |
tormod | hi I am angry >:( My eyes are dead tired after reading minuscule text in light-gray on white background! | 11:38 |
cprov | LaserJock: why was it rejected ? | 11:38 |
tormod | this has been complained about since the "new" launchpad was pushed on us | 11:38 |
tormod | what's the reason for not doing anything about it? | 11:38 |
tormod | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/87471 | 11:39 |
ubotu | Launchpad bug 87471 in launchpad "Grey text is unnecessarily difficult to read" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:39 |
LaserJock | cprov: because I used a Debian version number on the first upload | 11:42 |
LaserJock | cprov: since this is just messing around I'll just bump the version up so it's bigger than the first one ;-) | 11:43 |
cprov | LaserJock: you could also use new epoch, but simply bumping the version will do too | 11:44 |
LaserJock | cprov: it was just a -1 vs -0ubuntu1, I just made it -1ubuntu1 | 11:47 |
cprov | LaserJock: your PPA, your rules ;) | 11:49 |
LaserJock | mwuahahaha | 11:49 |
LaserJock | ^^ evil laugh | 11:49 |
cprov | LaserJock: ehe | 11:50 |
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