[01:07] <nixternal> Burgundavia: I am in class right now, I will be on later
[01:07] <Burgundavia> no worries
[01:07] <nixternal> ASP.NET of all things
[01:07] <Burgundavia> hey beuno
[01:08] <beuno> evening Burgundavia
[01:12] <nixternal> looks like everyone made membership
[01:12] <nixternal> txwikinger congrats!
[01:12] <txwikinger> Thanks nixternal
[01:12] <nixternal> my teacher just asked me what my GPLv3 t-shirt means
[01:13] <txwikinger> :D
[01:13] <txwikinger> teachers have usually lots of learning requirements even they don't admit it
[01:13] <nixternal> omfg
[01:14] <txwikinger> ?
[01:14] <nixternal> she just admitted she is a Linux user and instructor
[01:14] <nixternal> but doesn't know what the gpl is
[01:14] <txwikinger> and doesn't know gpl?
[01:15] <txwikinger> ok.. users sometimes don't know
[01:15] <nixternal> oh wow, she isn't all there...damn I got in the wrong class
[01:16] <txwikinger> what is that? Uni?
[01:16] <nixternal> ya
[01:16] <nixternal> this is scary
[01:16] <nixternal> she just said c# is replacing c++
[01:16] <nixternal> I am scared, somebody hold me ;p
[01:17] <txwikinger> sounds like M$ brainwashing
[01:17] <nixternal> txwikinger: I lecture at a couple Uni's in the Chicago land area about Linux and Free Software, so I gotcha ;)
[01:17] <beuno> Burgundavia: I'm leaving in 20', was there something you wanted from me?
[01:17] <Burgundavia> beuno: not really
[01:17] <Burgundavia> just saying hi
[01:17] <txwikinger> I lectured compiler contruction and theory of CS 
[01:18] <beuno> oh, that's nice of you   :D
[01:18] <txwikinger> Now I am asked to develop a course about JDBC, .NET, and Hibernate and so on
[01:18] <beuno> I haven't slept in about 38 hours, so I'm probably going to get some sleep now
[01:18] <txwikinger> seems to be a virus here ... not sleeping and so
[01:21] <beuno> txwikinger: let's hope it doesn't stick for too long
[01:22] <txwikinger> :)
[01:25] <beuno> g'night Burgundavia
[01:27] <jenda> yo
[01:27] <jenda> beuno: :)
[01:28] <jenda> beuno: once it really is done, tell me - I'll get you a bus ticket. It'd be better if we don't have to scream to each other over the entire bus, dont'ya think? :)
[01:28] <jenda> (the tickets have seat numbers)
[01:29] <beuno> :D
[01:30] <jenda> hehe
[01:30] <jenda> good night.
[01:30] <beuno> I'll decide in the enxt couple of days, need to secure my transportation from london to prague and I'll give you the thumbs up for the ticket
[01:30] <beuno> the sooner the better for all of us  :D
[01:30] <jenda> Whoa... you're going to bed the same time I am? Is Globalization shifting timezones, too? :)
[01:30] <jenda> beuno: 
[01:31] <jenda> My ticket isn't reserved for that particular bus yet either, so no hurry, methinks.
[01:31] <beuno> jenda: it's either globalization or the fact the I haven't slept in 38 hours
[01:31] <beuno> one of those two
[01:31] <jenda> hehee
[01:31] <jenda> ok
[01:32] <jenda> Good night :)
[01:32] <beuno> night jenda
[01:32] <beuno> night all 
[02:00] <nixternal> txwikinger: the teacher doesn't know what Ubuntu is (she does now though) or what KDE is (she does now) and she claimed herself as a Linux instructor
[02:01] <nixternal> my lord the US Education system is failing ;)
[04:15] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu, nixternal: you lot around?
[04:15] <Admiral_Chicago> Burgundavia: afaik, nixternal is on his way back home from school
[04:16] <Burgundavia> right
[04:16] <Admiral_Chicago> 21:07 < nixternal> bbiab
[05:21] <nixternal_> Burgwork: I am home now..what's up?
[05:23] <nixternal_> Burgundavia: ^^
[05:24] <Burgundavia> was kicking around an idea last night
[05:25] <Burgundavia> the basic idea is thus: use the power of our massive loco teams to help influence gov't to support Open Source and get rid of DMCA/software patents
[05:25] <Burgundavia> basically a "WriteYourRepresentative"
[05:26] <Burgundavia> what hte marketing team woudl do would be write a basic letter, one for the federal level, one for the state/provinical and one for the local level
[05:26] <Burgundavia> nixternal_: ^
[05:26] <nixternal_> hehe, me and manchicken have been doing so already
[05:27] <Burgundavia> excellent
[05:27] <nixternal_> he has received 1 response from the person he sent it to, however it is vanilla. so far my responses have been from a bunch of lackies
[05:27] <Burgundavia> figured something like this was already being done
[05:27] <nixternal_> I don't know if everyone is doing it
[05:27] <nixternal_> but I am going to start another round, which I will make public
[05:27] <vorian> I would be down with that....
[05:28] <nixternal_> but that is a good idea to have a basic letter format though
[05:28] <Burgundavia> ok, sounds good
[05:28] <nixternal_> and try to keep it somewhat personal, as the people who you are sending them to, supposedly represent you and consider you their friend
[05:28] <nixternal_> at least that is the BS our government tells us
[05:28] <Burgundavia> heh
[05:28] <nixternal_> but we all watch the news :)
[05:29] <Burgundavia> the idea would be that specific loco teams would create specific letters for their members to send
[05:29] <nixternal_> my county's courthouse uses Ubuntu in all of their public kiosks
[05:29] <nixternal_> I heard the familiar startup tune waiting for my line of questioning for jury duty
[05:30] <nixternal_> to bad they don't think we need more drug dealers as well
[05:32] <Burgundavia> anyway, shall we get this going?
[05:32] <nixternal_> +1 from me
[05:32] <Burgundavia> if I create the basic page, can you get teh chicago letters up?
[05:32] <nixternal_> sure can
[05:33] <nixternal_> manchicken (Michael D. Stemle Jr.) blogged his recently on the planet
[05:33] <nixternal_> here is the great thing about me...I didn't save a soft copy :)
[05:33] <nixternal_> but I plan on resending anyways, because I am not happy with someone who isn't even my representative responding
[05:33] <vorian> I can get some letters out as well (.../me from ohio)
[05:33] <nixternal_> i.e., a page or such, and everyone seen the news and just what these pages are all about :)
[05:39] <Burgundavia> nixternal: creating the page now
[05:39] <nixternal> rock on with your bad self :)
[05:41] <Burgundavia> indeed
[05:46] <Burgundavia> nixternal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WriteYourRepresentative
[05:47] <nixternal> hahaha
[05:47] <nixternal> good deal...now to come up witha  generic letter
[05:48] <Burgundavia> can you start dumping stuff from your letter on that generic page?
[05:48] <nixternal> I sure can
[06:39] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, here now
[06:39] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WriteYourRepresentative
[06:41] <Burgundavia> something I dreamt up last night, while being unable to sleep
[08:01] <elliot3> hello is this a marketing channel??
[08:01] <elliot3> general marketing?
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> yes
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> ...
[08:14] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, seems a good idea. sorry, got distracted as per usual
[08:15] <elkbuntu> Burgundavia, i've been roped into being a miniconf organiser for LCA next year
[08:44] <Burgundavia> elkbuntu: need to sleep now, but lets chat tomorrow about getting it going further
[08:44] <elkbuntu> yep, no prob
[09:59] <isolatednz> just enquiring as to whether you do paid internet advertising - or only voluntary...?
[10:03] <vorian> isolatednz, what do you mean?
[10:12] <isolatednz> does the ubuntu marketing team pay to advertise on websites or just rely on the voluntary "Buttons" that people put on their websites
[10:21] <elkbuntu> isolatednz, the marketing team is a volunteer team, we have no budget
[10:38] <isolatednz> I thought so, thanks
[11:49] <Mike_F> i have a general question for anyone around
[11:49] <mrmonday> whats the Q?
[11:50] <Mike_F> i noticed someone asked about marketing money
[11:50] <Mike_F> it's early here in the us and i just left the chat client open overnight
[11:51] <Mike_F> Also is there a way to get the just the leaflets sent to me
[10:05] <jenda> uh oh
[10:15] <beuno> I was wondering why the lights dimed suddenly...
[10:30] <Vorian> where are my shirts?
[10:30] <Burgwork> I ate them
[10:30] <Vorian> :)
[10:30] <Burgwork> needed more fibre and cotton
[10:31] <Vorian> thats an interesting way to get it :)
[10:37] <jenda> YES!
[10:37] <jenda> The ministry of IT has officially recomended the use of ODF, .txt and .pdf!
[10:37] <jenda> (and html)
[10:45] <Vorian> lol
[10:46] <Vorian> jenda, you have to check this out
[10:46] <Vorian> http://socialdiscussion.com/arcade.php??act=Arcade
[11:11] <tsmithe> jenda, hows it going?
[11:41] <txwikinger> Hi,, anybody with fridge access here?
[11:41] <beuno> txwikinger: yeap, what you need?
[11:41] <nixternal> Burgwork: you see manchickens post on the planet concerning the senator?
[11:41] <nixternal> good stuff
[11:42] <nixternal> gotta roll to school..back later
[11:42] <txwikinger> beuno: I just send you a short article about the LinuxTag in Berlin a FOSS conference
[11:43] <beuno> txwikinger: you just sent the email to fridge-devel, right?
[11:43] <txwikinger> the ML yes
[11:44] <beuno> txwikinger: right, I'm looking it over, I'll write it up, thanks  :D
[11:44] <txwikinger> Thanks a lot bueno
[11:45] <txwikinger> beuno! :)
[11:45] <beuno> txwikinger: np, and congrats on the membership  :D
[11:45] <txwikinger> Thanks a lot
[11:47] <txwikinger> beuno: We are also planning to get something together for the UWN
[11:48] <beuno> txwikinger: I'll appreciate any additions to it, feel free to add it directly, I can edit it after if needed
[11:53] <txwikinger> ok
[11:54] <beuno> txwikinger: is the site up?  I'm having trouble accesing it
[11:54] <beuno> http://webcam.kubuntu-de.org/
[11:54] <txwikinger> Yes, it is
[11:54] <txwikinger> currently there is just an image in it, since the conference is closed
[11:54] <txwikinger> (Night time)
[11:55] <beuno> the actual link is: http://webcam.kubuntu-de.org/en/
[11:55] <beuno> isn't it?
[11:55] <txwikinger> No.. without the /en/
[11:55] <beuno> right, I got redirected their
[11:55] <txwikinger> sorry yes it
[11:55] <beuno> it's in the queue waiting for another editor to approve it
[11:55] <txwikinger> ok.. great
[11:56] <beuno> should be published soon  :D
[11:56] <txwikinger> cool :D