| Riddell | Lure: done | 12:16 |
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| Lure | Riddell: thanks, have subscribed ubuntu-archive | 12:17 |
| Riddell | fabo: what creates .version files in the guidance package? | 12:19 |
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| Daskreech | manchicken: They do release a lot of code as well | 12:37 |
| manchicken | Daskreech: What now? | 12:37 |
| Daskreech | 12:38 | |
| Daskreech | They do release internal code to oss | 12:38 |
| Daskreech | Just boring stuff :) | 12:38 |
| Riddell | they do? | 12:38 |
| Riddell | I've never noticed that, except where they have to | 12:39 |
| mhb | I'm happy with them paying the SoC :o) | 12:40 |
| Daskreech | http://code.google.com/projects.html | 12:41 |
| Riddell | ah, right, spose so | 12:43 |
| manchicken | Daskreech: I don't recall saying anything about Google today. | 12:43 |
| Daskreech | manchicken: me either | 12:43 |
| Daskreech | I thought it about time :-) | 12:44 |
| manchicken | Oh. Googles contributions are insufficient to make up for the privacy and freedom violations they've committed. | 12:44 |
| Riddell | I've not noticed any of them either | 12:44 |
| manchicken | I've noticed a lot of proprietary stuff and a lot of disingenuous grooming of the Free Software community. :) | 12:45 |
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| Daskreech | manchicken: yeah I said they were boring stuff :0 | 02:27 |
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| jjesse | was someone looking for me? | 02:50 |
| Daskreech | hi kwwii | 02:52 |
| jjesse | hello Daskreech | 02:53 |
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| Daskreech | hi jjesse :) | 02:53 |
| Daskreech | How are you? | 02:53 |
| jjesse | good, frustrated at my dog, who insists he has to go outside and then nothing | 02:54 |
| kwwii | hi Daskreech, jjesse, all | 02:54 |
| Daskreech | jjesse: maybe he wants to walk | 02:55 |
| jjesse | its not time for that yet | 02:55 |
| kwwii | or maybe he is messing with your mind | 02:55 |
| jjesse | he goes at nine thirty | 02:55 |
| jjesse | every day | 02:55 |
| jjesse | loading up a gutsy vm right now :) | 02:55 |
| kwwii | dogs are a lot smarter than you think :-) | 02:55 |
| Daskreech | :-) | 02:56 |
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| claydoh | my 3 dogs are definitely smarter than me | 03:10 |
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| claydoh | they can tell when I am faking sleep early in the am | 03:12 |
| nosrednaekim | I read on your wiki that some apps needed to be programmed. Are any of these apps in Python? | 03:12 |
| Daskreech | claydoh: They know your mensis :-) | 03:14 |
| claydoh | maybe, but it still suck if I acidently wake up at 4 a,m, they all wanna go outside | 03:16 |
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| Daskreech | Oh that yeah | 03:19 |
| === claydoh is enjoying kmymoney2 0.9 cvs | ||
| Daskreech | wait that gets developed? | 03:22 |
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| Daskreech | ha ha :) | 03:23 |
| claydoh | 0.9 has, get this, wizard driven online banking setup that *works*!! | 03:24 |
| Daskreech | Joking | 03:25 |
| Daskreech | it pretends to be IE? :) | 03:25 |
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| claydoh | lol I have yet to use IE7 | 03:34 |
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| nosrednaekim | hi, I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but i'm trying to register up on kubuntu.org, and its stalling. | 03:34 |
| Daskreech | claydoh: how nice is it to use? | 03:36 |
| Daskreech | I was going to use it a while back for personal finances then I ran out of finances to manage :( | 03:36 |
| claydoh | well it works, in stable versions, but ofx was always hit and miss | 03:37 |
| claydoh | being too lazy to manually enter transactions makes a working ofx very handy | 03:38 |
| claydoh | OFX direct connectis broken/missing in Feisty/edgy | 03:39 |
| Daskreech | so you can od ofx and it catalogs them automatically? | 03:40 |
| claydoh | hadn't tried it in a long time, so I decided to compile from cvs instead of stable, and viola | 03:40 |
| claydoh | yes | 03:40 |
| claydoh | before, I had to set Konq file association for manually downloaded ofx files | 03:41 |
| claydoh | now, it is Just Like Quicken | 03:41 |
| claydoh | kinda | 03:42 |
| claydoh | missing a big "download transactions" button tho | 03:42 |
| claydoh | quicken was the last win app Ikept, until they removed support for it and force me to buy the new version | 03:43 |
| claydoh | 2003 i think | 03:43 |
| Daskreech | yeah | 03:43 |
| Daskreech | with the subscriptions | 03:43 |
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| claydoh | when i say my last windows app of course does not mean games :) | 03:48 |
| Daskreech | :-P | 03:48 |
| Daskreech | Yeah | 03:48 |
| Daskreech | Duh | 03:48 |
| ryanakca | exit | 04:18 |
| ryanakca | oops, sorry | 04:18 |
| Daskreech | :-) | 04:23 |
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| RadiantFire | mhb? | 04:32 |
| jjesse | grin :) | 04:32 |
| jjesse | nice one Daskreech | 04:32 |
| Daskreech | jjesse: Which one? :) | 04:32 |
| jjesse | the exit :) | 04:33 |
| Daskreech | ah | 04:33 |
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| jjesse | slow night?? | 04:43 |
| Daskreech | yeah | 04:47 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 05:46 |
| Daskreech | hi Hobbsee | 05:47 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 05:47 |
| Daskreech | how are you | 05:49 |
| Hobbsee | meh | 05:50 |
| Hobbsee | i'm attemtping to summon the energy to get up and actually do anything | 05:50 |
| Hobbsee | and knetworkmanager is being painful | 05:50 |
| Daskreech | Yeah it does that | 05:53 |
| Hobbsee | which is surprising, as it didnt used to | 05:53 |
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| Daskreech | Hobbsee: What about posting with a language? | 05:57 |
| Hobbsee | Daskreech: sorry? | 05:57 |
| Daskreech | Hobbsee: You had a blog post a few days ago | 06:00 |
| Daskreech | something about posting in a different language that sounded too much like it was something you had hit in RL | 06:01 |
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| Hobbsee | Daskreech: i dont understand | 06:10 |
| Hobbsee | oh, the harassment one? | 06:10 |
| Daskreech | Yeah | 06:10 |
| Hobbsee | i have hit most of that in real life, yes | 06:11 |
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| Daskreech | Someone being offensive because of speaking a different language? | 06:12 |
| Daskreech | or pretending to not be offensive by speaking a different language? | 06:13 |
| Hobbsee | i didnt say that in a blog post | 06:13 |
| Hobbsee | i said "just because something is OK in one culture, does that mean it's okay in all of them?" type idea | 06:13 |
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| Daskreech | Yeah you also said before that that at what point in a post do you decide that it's not the language barrier that the person is just being rude | 06:14 |
| Daskreech | type | 06:14 |
| Daskreech | idea. sounded like something specific :) | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | true that | 06:15 |
| Hobbsee | sure. didnt you see \sh's sexy lady from au post? | 06:15 |
| Daskreech | Nope | 06:16 |
| Daskreech | was it on planet ubuntu? | 06:16 |
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| Hobbsee | it was | 06:18 |
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| Hobbsee | Daskreech: http://linux.blogweb.de/ | 06:19 |
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| Hobbsee | Daskreech: specifically http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/301-Ubuntu-is-going-to-be-sexy....html | 06:20 |
| nixternal | holy jeebus...writing cmake files aren't all that fun | 06:21 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: I don't care what people say, Kubuntu is secksy | 06:21 |
| nixternal | and I am still pissed that I wasn't considered secksy! | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: heh | 06:22 |
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| nixternal | haha, or better yet, Fat Bastard | 06:22 |
| nixternal | get in ma belly | 06:22 |
| Hobbsee | nixternal: you really want the guys to think of you as sexy? | 06:23 |
| nixternal | hey, better then me thinking I am just to curb the lonelyness | 06:24 |
| nixternal | ;p | 06:24 |
| nixternal | haha | 06:24 |
| Daskreech | Hobbsee: is that link right? | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | yes | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | if you take teh whole link | 06:25 |
| Daskreech | as in append .html ? | 06:25 |
| Daskreech | duh | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | take the whole link, as is, including the 4 .'s | 06:25 |
| Daskreech | not htlm | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | indeed | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | you could just copy paste it | 06:25 |
| Daskreech | one dot works as well ... | 06:26 |
| Daskreech | but ok | 06:26 |
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| Hobbsee | ah right | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | i have no idea why it was done that way | 06:27 |
| Hobbsee | hi mhb | 06:27 |
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| Jucato | Hobbsee: but you are secksy! (and nixternal isn't) :P | 07:55 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: :P | 07:55 |
| crimsun | poor Vista user he is :\ | 07:59 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 08:03 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: nixternal isnt serious aobut anything except his pointy-clicky Vista love. he said so last night. | 08:03 |
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| === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Adios Espania! | Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | Kubuntu Meeting on 31 May, 2100 UTC - see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings | ||
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| Tonio_ | hey | 09:08 |
| Lure | hi Tonio_ | 09:12 |
| Tonio_ | hey lure :) | 09:13 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: little question concerning libdvdread | 09:29 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: debian added the builddep to add dvd ripping function to k3b | 09:29 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: shouldn't we try to get libdvdread in main to do the same ? | 09:29 |
| Lure | Tonio_: that would be great | 09:29 |
| === Lure uses medibuntu, so did not notice it ;-) | ||
| Tonio_ | Lure: I think so.... | 09:30 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: yeah I know, I did the medibuntu package :) | 09:30 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: okay let's add this to todo again then..... | 09:30 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: still no internet connection at home........ | 09:30 |
| Tonio_ | :'( | 09:30 |
| Lure | Tonio_: it looks like french ISP suck | 09:30 |
| Lure | ;-) | 09:30 |
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| Tonio_ | Lure: no they globally rock, as long as you don't have a problem | 09:31 |
| Tonio_ | the problem is that there are 2 telecom services, and each one pretends this is the others fault | 09:32 |
| Tonio_ | the issue is that I have to go through the all process of validating everything even if I know where the problem is | 09:32 |
| Tonio_ | it takes one hour to fix, not more........ | 09:32 |
| Tonio_ | but they have to test this, and that, and then this again etc....... | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: f*cking bureaucraty.......; | 09:33 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: last i knew, libdvdread was in main | 09:33 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: it's in universe....... | 09:34 |
| Tonio_ | maybe demoted or so, I don't know....; | 09:34 |
| Hobbsee | okay, when i last modified it, it was in main | 09:34 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: so it would be easy to get it in main then.... | 09:35 |
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| Hobbsee | true | 09:43 |
| Hobbsee | i've no idea hwy it was demoted | 09:43 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: maybe because there is no more application in main using this ? :) | 09:45 |
| Hobbsee | quite possibly | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | hum, I have a couple of improvements for kds too....... let's upload | 09:45 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 09:45 |
| Tonio_ | I found a few things to improve while working for the french parliament :) | 09:46 |
| Hobbsee | what are they? | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: can do alt+print to catch the window and not the full screen | 09:46 |
| Tonio_ | for example | 09:46 |
| Hobbsee | in ksnapshot? | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | yup | 09:47 |
| Hobbsee | nice :) | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | well using ksnapshot -c in fact | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: do you know what is the status for the new usb stuff unmount thing from fdoving ? | 09:47 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: we should upload the package to revu right now, then get it in universe, and then in main etc....... | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | will be long, so we should start right now | 09:48 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: i believe he said it was going thru you | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: it is | 09:48 |
| Hobbsee | it looks good ot me, but mine keeps erroring out with the newest block anyway | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | but as I have no internet connection for at least 10 days........ | 09:48 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, fair enough | 09:48 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I haven't been very active due to that recently | 09:48 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, fair enough | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | one month without a connection | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | my girlfriend is happy of this, I'm not :) | 09:49 |
| Hobbsee | i thought it was already on revu? | 09:49 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: it isn't, bt I'll upload today, will you revu this ? | 09:49 |
| Hobbsee | get fdoving to upload it, if you want | 09:49 |
| Hobbsee | in fact, i thought it might already be there. | 09:49 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: well I think there was a couple of things to fix in fdoving package..... | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: will do that today | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | I'd like to get that in soon | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ping ? | 09:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I have a fix, as you know, for the usplash on shutdown | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but I'd like to discuss with you about the way to implement this | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: as this requires touching init.d files.... | 09:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: dpkg-divert seems the nice way to do it, but that means beeing carefully to provide a file that feets the latest provided by kdm and the usplash packages....... | 09:52 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: ah, koay | 09:52 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: there's a meeting tomorrow, btw. | 09:52 |
| Hobbsee | where tomorrow may equal anything in your tz | 09:52 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: you can upload, and you only need one other ack. i'm fine to do that other ack, once on a linux-based system. | 09:53 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: which time ? | 09:53 |
| Tonio_ | the meeting ? | 09:53 |
| _marseillais | 23 heures | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | tomorrow or today ? | 09:54 |
| _marseillais | today | 09:54 |
| Hobbsee | ^ topic | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: hum, right :) | 09:54 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I can't be there, as there is no internet home...... | 09:55 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: are we deciding the new council toonight ? | 09:56 |
| Hobbsee | proposing, at least, ithnk | 09:56 |
| Hobbsee | got suggestions? | 09:56 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: well I'm undecided if I wanna stay a member or not... | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: I'd like too but we need to rotate people.... | 09:57 |
| Hobbsee | why so? | 09:57 |
| Hobbsee | if we're rotatingn half... | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: well who are we rotating then ? | 09:57 |
| Hobbsee | i'd still like to see you on there | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | toma and ? | 09:57 |
| Hobbsee | allee, toma, raphink, iirc | 09:57 |
| Tonio_ | hum, well raphink makes sense as he doesn't have that much free time now | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | I think we should keep allee | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | but that's my opinion | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | allee thinks I should be prior to him....... | 09:58 |
| raphink | I told Riddell that I might not be very useful in the council aznymore | 09:58 |
| Tonio_ | undecision sucks :) | 09:58 |
| raphink | given my poor contributions lately | 09:58 |
| Hobbsee | hehe. both of you think they should step down. | 09:58 |
| raphink | well I'm not being very useful there | 09:59 |
| raphink | I'm more useful mentoring in the MOTU team | 09:59 |
| raphink | or contributing to upstream projects | 09:59 |
| raphink | that's what I'm doing mostly lately, and it's easier for me because that's where I work | 09:59 |
| Hobbsee | you remind me of some people at work. "oh, i'll pay" "no i'll pay" (rinse and repeat 10x). "oh just give me hte flipping money..." | 09:59 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: the point is that if I'm not a member of the council, who will force the decision to remove kexi ? ^_^ | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | I should stay a member at least till kexi is removed from the cd :) | 10:00 |
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| Hobbsee | hehe | 10:00 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: well btw I'd like to stay there as I think I can be usefull on that point | 10:01 |
| Hobbsee | it's not like you cant make decions bing on there | 10:01 |
| Hobbsee | ooh...lag | 10:01 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: i think so too | 10:01 |
| Tonio_ | but I'll leave if we need to rotate one more people | 10:01 |
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| Hobbsee | we'll see | 10:10 |
| fabo | Riddell: yes, it is dh_pysupport. | 10:15 |
| Riddell | fabo: but how do I make it stop? | 10:35 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hi ;) | 10:38 |
| Hobbsee | morning Riddell | 10:39 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: talking about the fix for the usplash on shutdown, are you okay with 2 init.d files provided with kds and dpkg-divert rules ? | 10:39 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: why two? | 10:44 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: because to get the complete usplash we need to patch init.d/kdm and init.d/usplash | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: second part of the shutdown process is done via usplash | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: in case we only patch one, we don't get the all shutdown graphically | 10:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: tested on 1000 pcs, that works :) | 10:45 |
| Riddell | ok, so edit those files, why the need for the diverts? | 10:46 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: because touching etc files is a policy violation | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and those files are provided by packages, so touching then requires human action to approve or reject at every update of usplash of kdm | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: divert them makes upgrade silent, and is respecfull reguarding to the debian policy :) | 10:47 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: btw, I think we should consider doing a divert for the kdmrc and backgroundrc files too, instead of doing a sed.... | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what I did for the french parliament is a third binary package from kds | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: kind of kubuntu-etc-files | 10:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: and doing divert for those files | 10:49 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: we should consider this for kubuntu in my opinion no ? | 10:49 |
| Riddell | what's wrong with editing init.d/kdm and init.d/usplash in the packaging? | 10:49 |
| fabo | Riddell: why do you want to make it stop ? we need .version to support specific python version | 10:50 |
| Riddell | fabo: because it creates the .version file in all three packages so it overlaps | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: ho you mean in the packaging ? | 10:51 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: yes | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hum nothing's wrong there, except I'd like to be sure touching usplash doesn't create any issue | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that can impact gnome too | 10:51 |
| Riddell | well write it in such a way that it doesn't :) | 10:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: lol | 10:51 |
| Riddell | kdm will get installed by gnome users too, including those that still use gdm | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: well it shouldn't cause any trouble btw | 10:52 |
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| Riddell | if it doesn't cause any trouble then change the init file installed by usplash | 10:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yup | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll also have to remove your kdm patch for usplash | 10:53 |
| Riddell | of course | 10:53 |
| Tonio_ | let's go then :) | 10:53 |
| Riddell | but but, I spent two days on that patch! | 10:53 |
| Riddell | (and it's still crap) | 10:53 |
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| mhb | good morning | 11:06 |
| fabo | Riddell: i asked python-support dev. POV, but i wonder why i've got it only in powermanager ... | 11:06 |
| Riddell | fabo: by the way I changed mv powermanager/*.py $(PYSUPPORT_PATH) to cp powermanager/*.py $(PYSUPPORT_PATH) | 11:21 |
| Riddell | since mv was changing the sources | 11:22 |
| morn|eri | Riddell: out of curiosity, how's python and spurious CPU wakeups? :) | 11:25 |
| morn|eri | anyone here tried powertop on kubuntu already? | 11:26 |
| morn|eri | and what results? | 11:26 |
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| Riddell | morn|eri: I havn't, although we included Kretz's patch for arts from his powertop searching | 11:27 |
| Riddell | I don't see why python in general would be bad for cpu wakeups | 11:27 |
| fabo | i applied matthias patch on arts for infos. nothing to report atm. | 11:28 |
| morn|eri | Riddell: i have noticed some interpreter stuff in powertop when running amarok, from the scripts | 11:29 |
| morn|eri | Riddell: may or may not be case with other scripted apps | 11:29 |
| fabo | Riddell: i wonder if the bug is to use PYSUPPORT_PATH everywhere ... it must use /usr/share/python-support/$PACKAGE | 11:30 |
| Riddell | fabo: for now I've worked around it by just not using pyversions | 11:31 |
| fabo | i'll do the test to confirm | 11:32 |
| morn|eri | but the powertop thing is really great | 11:37 |
| morn|eri | running a tickless kernel with the funky patches and doing some userspace tuning -does- improve battery life | 11:37 |
| Lure | morn|eri: I run powertop | 11:38 |
| morn|eri | 2 hours on wireless already and still 3.5h left | 11:38 |
| Lure | morn|eri: there are still other offenders before powermanager ;-) | 11:38 |
| morn|eri | ~12 watt | 11:38 |
| Lure | morn|eri: my bigest problem is usb (bluetooth) | 11:39 |
| morn|eri | autosuspend seems to work here | 11:39 |
| morn|eri | no bt tho | 11:39 |
| Lure | morn|eri: it does 100 wakeups/sec when inactive (but turned on due to wireless) | 11:39 |
| morn|eri | icky | 11:39 |
| RadiantFire | Riddell: I have read somewhere that the python interactive shell wakes up ever 100 ms or something | 11:40 |
| Lure | RadiantFire: me to, but powermanager (python up) doe not get powertop list at all... | 11:41 |
| Lure | RadiantFire: I suspect python in ubuntu already has fix | 11:41 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: launchpad doesn't let me change the status of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-bluetooth | 11:48 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: if you think it's ready, please change to "pending approval" | 11:48 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sure | 11:48 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: ah, wait | 11:48 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: scott approved it, sorted | 11:49 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: yep, that's what I saw | 11:49 |
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| Riddell | ah yes, powertop doesn't like me because I'm not using acpi | 11:54 |
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| Lure | Riddell: what do you use? | 11:59 |
| Riddell | Lure: a crappy laptop | 12:00 |
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| kwwii | lol, should I suggest that JRT work on Kubuntu? | 12:16 |
| Riddell | kwwii: see when I said yesterday about you not doing art any more, it was a joke! we love you! don't leave us to JRT! | 12:17 |
| Riddell | kwwii: well, if he does rant again I think that's a good time to unsubscribe him from the list | 12:21 |
| Lure | Riddell: JRT? | 12:21 |
| Riddell | Lure: KDE's most famous non-contributor | 12:22 |
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| kwwii | Riddell: :-) I sent a nice email asking him to stop - if he doesn't listen he is gone | 12:41 |
| kwwii | he is legally blind but wants to tell us how to do artwork :p | 12:41 |
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| _StefanS_ | Riddell: I was considering applying for kubuntu membership later today | 12:59 |
| Jucato | oh... the meeting's tomorrow :/ | 12:59 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: great! | 01:00 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: make sure you make yourself a wiki page | 01:00 |
| Lure | _StefanS_: go for it! you have my support! | 01:00 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: err, was the meeting yesterday ? :D | 01:00 |
| Lure | _StefanS_: not that I count ;-) | 01:00 |
| Riddell | _StefanS_: 10 hours time | 01:00 |
| _StefanS_ | Riddell: okay, I will create a wiki | 01:01 |
| _StefanS_ | Lure: thanks ;) | 01:01 |
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| marseillai | Riddell: i've done a debdiff for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/90801 with a patch i've found here : www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/openSUSE+KDE+Tweaks?content=59337 but i can't test it because i don't have a running gutsy | 01:23 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 90801 in kdebase "moving desktop icons on kde" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 01:23 |
| marseillai | do you want i give it to you or what should i do with it? | 01:24 |
| Riddell | marseillai: sure, attach the debdiff to the bug report | 01:26 |
| marseillai | oki | 01:26 |
| marseillai | done | 01:33 |
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| Riddell | marseillai: by the way you can make gutsy in a chroot and run from there | 02:04 |
| marseillai | Riddell: i've tryed | 02:04 |
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| Riddell | marseillai: what happened? | 02:04 |
| marseillai | my desktop is too old for this | 02:04 |
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| Riddell | well yes, that's why you need the chroot | 02:04 |
| marseillai | it is really slow | 02:04 |
| jjesse | morning | 02:05 |
| Riddell | things won't be any slower in a chroot | 02:05 |
| Riddell | good morning jjesse | 02:05 |
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| jjesse | morning Riddell or its probablly close to afternono for u | 02:05 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: FYI, due to missing internet connection at home, I'll not be there toonight | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: can you during the meeting send to messages for me ? | 02:09 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: first is that I +1 marseillai for membership | 02:10 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: second is that as long as there is no problem to find the people to rotate, I think I can be usefull as member of the council for one more year, so I am candidate :) | 02:10 |
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| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: ready to approve kio-umountwrapper from fdoving ? | 02:16 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: will be on revu in 2 minutes | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | Tonio_: -EWINDOWSXP | 02:18 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: is that a problem to approve the packaging ? | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: works and builds, believe in me :) | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | yes, because i'm not sure waht the password is | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: ah | 02:19 |
| Hobbsee | feel free to upload and i'll ack late, if you like | 02:19 |
| Tonio_ | Hobbsee: shame on you, vmware is free don't you remember ? ;) | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | this is true | 02:20 |
| Tonio_ | virtualbox too is, and works like a charm on kubuntu | 02:20 |
| Tonio_ | that's the way I do my windows stuff now :) | 02:20 |
| Hobbsee | how is it performance-wise? | 02:21 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I can look at it | 02:21 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: great, thanks :) | 02:23 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I forgot you were motu now :) | 02:23 |
| Lure | Tonio_: license in COPYING has wrong FSF address | 02:28 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: ah ? | 02:29 |
| Lure | Tonio_: just something fdoving can fix in next upstream relase | 02:29 |
| Lure | Tonio_: same in some source files | 02:30 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: well we'll tell him, but that's no reason to reject the package :) | 02:30 |
| Lure | Tonio_: right, just do not know why I cannot comment in revu | 02:30 |
| Lure | Tonio_: do I need to be in some special group? | 02:30 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: no you just need to be motu afaik | 02:31 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: are you authenticated ? | 02:31 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: are you in the motu lp group ? | 02:31 |
| Tonio_ | should work in that case afaik | 02:31 |
| Lure | Tonio_: I am logged in with my @ubuntu.com address and I am in MOTU in LP | 02:32 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: you should ping siretart then | 02:32 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: okay I don't wanna waste time on this :) | 02:33 |
| Tonio_ | Lure: I approve on revu and upload, can you just add your comment when you get the permissions ? | 02:34 |
| Lure | Tonio_: yep, just do it - will do | 02:34 |
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| siretart | Tonio_: sprry? | 02:37 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: hey ;) | 02:38 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: Lure is motu but doesn't appear to have commenting permissions on revu | 02:38 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: what can explain that ? | 02:38 |
| siretart | Tonio_: that I need to set its level in revu's postgresdatabase? ;) | 02:38 |
| siretart | s/its/his/ | 02:39 |
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| Tonio_ | siretart: ho you do that manually ? :) fun ! | 02:39 |
| nosrednaekim | Lure: I get the information from /proc/acpi/battery | 02:40 |
| Riddell | there must be a way to get it from hal | 02:41 |
| Lure | nosrednaekim: not available through "lshal"? | 02:41 |
| Lure | nosrednaekim: we do not want to read /proc unless really important | 02:41 |
| Lure | Tonio_: add my support to revu | 02:41 |
| nosrednaekim | Ok. I'm looking to see if its in lshal | 02:41 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: talking about ffmpeg, I just saw that latest version is in the repos for a few days | 02:42 |
| siretart | Tonio_: /srv/revu1-production/scripts/alter_user.py -lreviewer -elure@ubuntu.com | 02:42 |
| siretart | that's the command btw i need to issue | 02:43 |
| nosrednaekim | Lure: Riddell confirmed, its in lshal. | 02:43 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: shold we wait for xine-lib to build or isn't that better to just reupload ? | 02:43 |
| siretart | Tonio_: the problem is that ffmpeg source is in main, but not the binaries | 02:43 |
| Lure | nosrednaekim: ok, great - they you can add it to popup by looking at other code | 02:43 |
| siretart | Tonio_: we need to have the binaries moved to main, and give back xine to the buildds | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: yes but that shouldn't impact the build right ? | 02:44 |
| Lure | nosrednaekim: send me a patch (lure@u.c) and I can review it and include in kde svn | 02:44 |
| siretart | Tonio_: 'giving back' means to let the buildds retry a previously failed build | 02:44 |
| nosrednaekim | Lure: Riddell in fact, you can even tell the current in hal while the AC adapter is plugged in.. | 02:44 |
| nosrednaekim | which is nice. | 02:44 |
| nosrednaekim | Lure: ok. | 02:44 |
| siretart | Tonio_: feel free to ask an ftpmaster to do that | 02:44 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: sure | 02:44 |
| Lure | nosrednaekim: do you maybe have some non-laptop batteries (wireless mouse, ups...)? | 02:45 |
| nosrednaekim | Lure: nope | 02:45 |
| Lure | nosrednaekim: we want to add support for that, but I am always to lazy to start that (as I do not have HW) ;-) | 02:45 |
| nosrednaekim | for what..UPS? | 02:45 |
| Lure | nosrednaekim: ups or mouse battery yes | 02:46 |
| nosrednaekim | I have a UPS ( but not on the computer) | 02:46 |
| nosrednaekim | (this | 02:46 |
| nosrednaekim | *this... can't type this morning | 02:46 |
| Lure | nosrednaekim: if it would be connected to computer and supported by HAL, we could easily add support for it | 02:46 |
| Lure | nosrednaekim: there is bug about it | 02:46 |
| nosrednaekim | mouse battery... that reports to hal? interesting. | 02:47 |
| Lure | nosrednaekim: bug 82277 | 02:47 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 82277 in kde-guidance "[Feisty] guidance-power-manager doesn't work for UPS on a desktop system" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82277 | 02:47 |
| nosrednaekim | ah... ok...well maybe i'll see what I can do. The UPS is not attached to a ubuntu machine ( its my brother's gentoo box) | 02:48 |
| nosrednaekim | but I should be able to pull the hal output and see how to do it. | 02:48 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: gutsy not feisty! also if you're uploading kdebase you could look at marseillai's patch on https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/90801 | 02:52 |
| ubotu | Launchpad bug 90801 in kdebase "moving desktop icons on kde" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: argh, I missed that one...... | 02:53 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's dch's fault ! ;) | 02:55 |
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| Tonio_ | siretart: just tried to build xine-lib on feisty, fails due to ghostscript broken | 03:47 |
| siretart | Tonio_: not my fault :) | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | I know :) | 03:48 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: just to let you know as the maintainer :) | 03:48 |
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| siretart | Tonio_: do you have a buildlog for me? feel free to bounce it to my ubuntu address | 03:51 |
| Tonio_ | siretart: sure | 03:58 |
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| fdoving | Tonio_: did you look at the kio-umountwrapper package yet? revu etc. | 04:34 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: yup | 04:37 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: it is in the main queue | 04:37 |
| Tonio_ | New queue sorry | 04:37 |
| Tonio_ | once in universe, I'll write the main inclusion report | 04:37 |
| Lure | fdoving: you may only want to update GPL licenses to point to new address of FSF, otherwise good work! | 04:41 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: did you see that comment from lure ? :) | 04:47 |
| fdoving | Lure: ok, thanks :) | 04:47 |
| Tonio_ | fdoving: yep :) | 04:47 |
| Lure | fdoving: thank you! | 04:47 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: great. keep up the good work. i'll have to run again. more work. see you :) | 04:47 |
| fdoving | Tonio_: btw. the don't refresh desktop-icons-kdeeject-hack leaves old icons around the desktop if you umount from media:/ - or it did that once here. do you experience that too? | 04:49 |
| fdoving | i have not tested it very much. i just noticed it once. | 04:49 |
| fdoving | anyway.. have to run. bye. | 04:49 |
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| Tonio_ | fdoving: yep, but we're not supposed to have media:/ :) | 04:50 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: shall I merge kdebluetooth? | 06:16 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: well we'll probably look at packaging kdebluetooth-dbus-integration no ? | 06:33 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: if so, merging kdebluetooth might be a waste of time | 06:34 |
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| Riddell | Hobbsee: you need to give me your phone number again if you need a wake up call | 06:35 |
| Hobbsee | sure | 06:35 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: i never got your message from UDS, btw | 06:35 |
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| DaSkreech | hi Hobbsee Jucato | 06:36 |
| Hobbsee | heya DaSkreech | 06:36 |
| Jucato | hi DaSkreech | 06:36 |
| DaSkreech | how goes? | 06:36 |
| Jucato | hi Hobbsee! (still up?) | 06:36 |
| DaSkreech | sup? | 06:36 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: yeah, stupidly. i'll go to bed soon | 06:37 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: i found i had so many assignments, and there was interesting stuff in the ubuntu dev meeting. | 06:37 |
| Jucato | er... I just realized that the meeting is just about 4 hours away? | 06:37 |
| DaSkreech | kubuntu meeting? | 06:37 |
| Jucato | yeah | 06:37 |
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| Hobbsee | yep | 06:38 |
| Lure | is it just me, or kdm still does not have kubuntu theme in gutsy? | 06:39 |
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| Jucato | hm... I just noticed mhb's proposal to turn off power manager's notification isn't in the agenda? was that resolved or withdrawn? | 06:40 |
| Jucato | DaSkreech: there is | 06:40 |
| DaSkreech | Bydefault? | 06:41 |
| Jucato | there's one in kde-look. Kubuntu user list | 06:41 |
| DaSkreech | oh yeah saw that one. | 06:41 |
| Jucato | I think we will be considering that for feisty... dunno w/ kwwi | 06:41 |
| Riddell | Lure: it doesn't? | 06:41 |
| Lure | Riddell: it never did for me since upgrade from feisty (a week ago) | 06:41 |
| Lure | Riddell: and system settings crashes :-( | 06:42 |
| Lure | Riddell: also only noticed this today ;-) | 06:42 |
| Lure | DaSkreech: that kind of theme I have now (with user selection ;-)) | 06:42 |
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| Jucato | what's new? :) | 06:42 |
| DaSkreech | Lure: :-) I was thinking that a choice like that should be given with the default packages | 06:43 |
| Lure | Jucato: it was discussed on ML, do not remeber if it was on agenda | 06:43 |
| Jucato | Lure: ok. just remembered it :) | 06:43 |
| Lure | DaSkreech: I am fine with that being changed - you need to talk to kwwii to design something nice | 06:43 |
| DaSkreech | Yeah I spoke with him after dapper | 06:44 |
| DaSkreech | forgot about it since then | 06:44 |
| Lure | Jucato: what about your kmilo enhancement - will we upload it (I got used to it - it is much nicer) | 06:44 |
| Jucato | Lure: you'll have to ask mhb. it was originally his request. I just put it on the agenda :) | 06:44 |
| Jucato | (somehow he had the idea that because he already had an agenda topic, he can't add others :) | 06:44 |
| Lure | Jucato: good | 06:45 |
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| Lure | Jucato: he can add as many as he want | 06:45 |
| Jucato | mhb: heard that? :P | 06:45 |
| Hobbsee | Lure: does that apply to me too? | 06:46 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: of course | 06:46 |
| Jucato | btw, the KDM theme on kde-look I mentioned earlier uses kwwi's theme, just modified a bit to include a user list | 06:46 |
| === Hobbsee goes and doubles the meeting agenda then, like she did once before... | ||
| === Lure almost fogot about the days when we had Hobbsee only agendas ;-) | ||
| Jucato | Hobbsee: no one dares limit the powers of the LongPointyStick :) | 06:46 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 06:46 |
| abattoir | the meeting is in around 4 hours 15 minutes, right? | 06:46 |
| nixternal | yup | 06:46 |
| Lure | Hobbsee: so you do not plan any sleep before meeting? | 06:47 |
| === Jucato wonders if he should stilll sleep at all.... | ||
| Hobbsee | Lure: i do plan to sleep, i think, and i'll hope like crazy that i wake up | 06:47 |
| Lure | Jucato: you are from similar timezone as Hobbsee, right? | 06:47 |
| Hobbsee | not sure how coherant i'll be, though, for a while | 06:47 |
| DaSkreech | maybe someone can call you? | 06:47 |
| Jucato | Lure: nope. +8 UTC. making the meeting 5:00 AM over here :) | 06:47 |
| Hobbsee | DaSkreech: Riddell will | 06:47 |
| Jucato | he usually does :) | 06:48 |
| Lure | Jucato: auch even worse | 06:48 |
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| Jucato | heh no worries. it's not like we have meetings every month :P | 06:48 |
| === Jucato runs and hides from the stick | ||
| nixternal | that was a low blow ;p | 06:48 |
| jjesse | are we going to have meetings more frequently hten? | 06:48 |
| DaSkreech | Hmm? | 06:49 |
| Jucato | Hobbsee: you might want to take just a short nap, not more than 30 or 45 minutes. might be better than sleeping | 06:49 |
| jjesse | i ment are we going to have more regular meetings ? | 06:49 |
| Hobbsee | Jucato: i tend to wake up pretty groggy | 06:49 |
| Hobbsee | jjesse: yes | 06:49 |
| Riddell | jjesse: hope so | 06:49 |
| Hobbsee | jjesse: it's a problem of hobbseeslackness. | 06:49 |
| jjesse | good, cause i can't make this one | 06:49 |
| Jucato | nixternal: lower than you not being secksy? :P | 06:49 |
| Hobbsee | but no idea about in hte next week or so, as... at last count, there's 2 opto200 assignments 1 opto230 assignment, 3 electronics assignments, the last one being due in a week, 3 physics assignments, 1 report, 1 lab.... | 06:50 |
| Hobbsee | most of which to do before next friday. | 06:50 |
| DaSkreech | Sounds like you need a minion | 06:51 |
| === Jucato sees DaSkreech volunteering | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:51 |
| Hobbsee | it looks like i'm goign to say "too bad" to 2.5 of the physics assignments, and a whole heap of electronics | 06:51 |
| Hobbsee | opto ones i can hand in next semester, i think, report is for over the break | 06:52 |
| Hobbsee | so i might cope | 06:52 |
| Jucato | poor Hobbsee :`( | 06:54 |
| Hobbsee | yay, UDS, and getting sick afterwards | 06:54 |
| yuriy | Hobbsee: what kind of stuff are you doing in electronics? | 07:01 |
| Hobbsee | yuriy: op amps, at the moment. linear stuff | 07:01 |
| Hobbsee | linear circuits | 07:02 |
| Hobbsee | stuff i dont really understand much | 07:02 |
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| yuriy | i think i understand opamps, but i may very well not remember anything at this point | 07:04 |
| nixternal | Hobbsee: op amps are fun though | 07:04 |
| Hobbsee | heh | 07:05 |
| Hobbsee | true | 07:05 |
| Hobbsee | i just dont understand much of the complex ones | 07:05 |
| Hobbsee | and the non ideal cases and such | 07:05 |
| nixternal | ya, I would have to brush up on them myself | 07:05 |
| Jucato | all I remember about electronics is getting burned with the soldering iron :) | 07:05 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 07:05 |
| nixternal | hahahahahahaha | 07:05 |
| === Hobbsee rofl's | ||
| nixternal | I just burnt myself the other day actually not paying attention | 07:05 |
| nixternal | been a while since I did that last | 07:05 |
| === DaSkreech gently carries Hobbsee to bed | ||
| Hobbsee | i cant sleep if not tired, though. | 07:07 |
| Hobbsee | which is hte problem | 07:08 |
| yuriy | Hobbsee: i don't htink we went that in-depth | 07:09 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 07:09 |
| yuriy | we made analog adders and subtractors with them, and some sort of feedback circuit, that's about it | 07:10 |
| === DaSkreech bounces at all the stuff in Plasma | ||
| Hobbsee | hehe, i'm looking forward to seeing that | 07:16 |
| DaSkreech | Raptor is so going to own :) | 07:16 |
| Jucato | hm... there are updates in tb? | 07:19 |
| Hobbsee | tb? | 07:20 |
| Jucato | techbase | 07:20 |
| Jucato | sorry to lazy to type.. fingers hurt already :) | 07:20 |
| Hobbsee | ahhhh | 07:21 |
| DaSkreech | No they have a meeting going on now I'm sitting in | 07:21 |
| DaSkreech | and I've been reading http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Menu | 07:21 |
| Jucato | ah ok | 07:22 |
| Jucato | I was under the impression that raptor was qutie dormant. glad to see it alive again | 07:22 |
| Jucato | although not really sure I know enough about it to root for it as *the* next K Menu :) | 07:22 |
| DaSkreech | It sounds roxors | 07:26 |
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| marseillai | first episode of first season of heroes! a woman is using kde and kopete! :) | 07:42 |
| DaSkreech | marseillai: Yeah thats how I found out about heros :) | 07:42 |
| DaSkreech | I've only watched that episode though :( | 07:42 |
| marseillai | DaSkreech: honnestly | 07:42 |
| marseillai | i prefer the girl that kde .... :p | 07:43 |
| DaSkreech | marseillai: yeah it was on the dot the day after Heroes debuted | 07:43 |
| marseillai | but it's good to see kde and linux more often in films | 07:43 |
| marseillai | oh | 07:43 |
| marseillai | didn't saw it | 07:43 |
| marseillai | true that i don't read every days the dot. | 07:43 |
| === n8k99 watched the whole season in two days | ||
| Jucato | sssh no spoilers please :) | 07:44 |
| n8k99 | hehe | 07:44 |
| DaSkreech | Jucato: Umm ok there is no Flash of Blue and kopete in there .. .at all.. | 07:48 |
| DaSkreech | Oh and Al gore doesn't guest star | 07:48 |
| Jucato | I've seen the first 2 episodes :) | 07:49 |
| n8k99 | in the third episode there is a young kde developer from manila who has the power to melt motherboards | 07:50 |
| RadiantFire | of course there is | 07:50 |
| RadiantFire | the most useful power ever... | 07:50 |
| Jucato | yay!!! :) | 07:50 |
| Jucato | fortunately, I'm not in manila bwahahaha | 07:51 |
| Jucato | (but quite close) | 07:51 |
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| RadiantFire | imagine, being able to solder chips onto the board with the power of your mind... dead useful | 07:53 |
| === n8k99 would prefer to being able to compile dreams into working code | ||
| RadiantFire | mmm... focus follows dream... almost like focus follows mind | 07:55 |
| DaSkreech | RadiantFire: wouldn't that be nsfw most of the time? | 07:55 |
| RadiantFire | perhaps | 07:55 |
| yuriy | marseillai: really?? cool | 08:00 |
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| mhb | Jucato: I know that ... but I did not want to have the only two agenda points at that time :o) | 08:30 |
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| ubuntu__ | hii hunger | 08:59 |
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| hunger | hi there. | 08:59 |
| DaSkreech | Khalkhi is stalled? | 08:59 |
| hunger | DaSkreech: Last thing I heared friedrich said he won't have time for it. | 09:00 |
| DaSkreech | right I saw a "final" release on KDE apps | 09:00 |
| hunger | which kind of sucks as that stalls decibel... | 09:00 |
| DaSkreech | Does he have roadmap as to what needs to be done? | 09:02 |
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| hunger | Dunno. When I last talked to him in March he was still on it. Only got a mail a couple of days later about having RL interfeer. | 09:03 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: just fyi, I'm currently working on kdesudo code | 09:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I've made it to work correctly | 09:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it remembers the password, respects sudo rules etc.... | 09:18 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: needs a bit of polishing, but I'll release a tarball soon | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: hopefully we could use it as a kdesu replacement | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: talking about the code, it isn't really outdated, as very simple and light | 09:19 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it should resolve most of the issues we have with kdesu | 09:21 |
| yuriy | what exactly is kdesudo? | 09:25 |
| yuriy | it's just like kdesu but by someone else? | 09:26 |
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| toma | am i on time? | 09:40 |
| nixternal | nope | 09:42 |
| nixternal | you are early | 09:42 |
| nixternal | ;D | 09:42 |
| toma | omg | 09:42 |
| nixternal | haha | 09:43 |
| toma | how much too early? 15 minutes? | 09:43 |
| jjesse | an hour right? | 09:43 |
| hunger_t | too early for what? | 09:43 |
| jjesse | @time detroit | 09:43 |
| ubotu | Current time in America/Detroit: May 31 2007, 15:43:52 - Next meeting: Kubuntu Developers in 1 hour 16 minutes | 09:43 |
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| toma | @time culemborg | 09:44 |
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| toma | ok, then i can see an episode of prison break | 09:45 |
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| marseillai_ | there is currently a big storm here | 10:06 |
| jjesse | where is here? | 10:07 |
| marseillai_ | my home marseille | 10:07 |
| marseillai_ | i hope i'll be able to come to meeting | 10:07 |
| marseillai_ | but i can't be certain of that | 10:07 |
| nixternal | heh, there is a big storm here as well | 10:08 |
| marseillai_ | where ? | 10:08 |
| nixternal | chicago | 10:08 |
| jjesse | chicago | 10:08 |
| marseillai_ | you are both from chicago ? | 10:09 |
| nixternal | although, I am thinking it is about over | 10:09 |
| nixternal | marseillai_: he is from across the pond ;) | 10:09 |
| jjesse | no, nixternal is i'm from michagn | 10:09 |
| nixternal | I am from Michigan too!!! :) | 10:09 |
| jjesse | acording to weather.com it looks like it is still comming in to the chi-town area | 10:09 |
| nixternal | well originally, born there at least and live the first 4 years of my life there | 10:09 |
| nixternal | ya, but it seems to be dying out and turning into rain | 10:09 |
| nixternal | I haven't heard thunder for a bit now | 10:09 |
| nixternal | and from where I am sitting, I can see the skies have lightened up a bit | 10:10 |
| marseillai_ | me is just in the storm | 10:11 |
| marseillai_ | and i know my house and my net doesn't like storm | 10:11 |
| nixternal | I have been lucky with the storms and not knocking me out | 10:13 |
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| yuriy | [[1=1] (status) [2=2] #ubuntu-massachusetts [3=3] #guru [4=4] #kubuntu [5=5] #kubuntu-devel [6=6] #ubuntu-us-ne [7=7] #ubuntu+1 ] | 10:15 |
| yuriy | [[1=1] (status) [2=2] #ubuntu-massachusetts [3=3] #guru [4=4] #kubuntu [5=5] #kubuntu-devel [6=6] #ubuntu-us-ne [7=7] #ubuntu+1 ] | 10:16 |
| yuriy | sorry, crappy kvm screwed with the mouse | 10:16 |
| mhb | no storm here :o) | 10:16 |
| DaSkreech | dell took Ubuntu off the front page | 10:18 |
| dregorth | figures | 10:18 |
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| nixternal | knew that was coming | 10:19 |
| nixternal | they just took some bad publicity on CNBC about the whole deal | 10:19 |
| Paulx4 | write spain? | 10:19 |
| RadiantFire | really? | 10:19 |
| nixternal | umm, Ubuntu is still on the front page | 10:19 |
| nixternal | By Popular Demand. | 10:20 |
| nixternal | Ubuntu Has Arrived. | 10:20 |
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| jjesse | i think you have to wait for the right screen of flash | 10:20 |
| nixternal | ya, they were talking about the whole price thing | 10:20 |
| dregorth | oh it's that random ad one i think | 10:20 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: gimmie URL | 10:20 |
| nixternal | jjesse: you are correct, it changes | 10:20 |
| nixternal | their header changes each reload | 10:20 |
| RadiantFire | yeah, i just checked 2/5 were the ubuntu add | 10:21 |
| DaSkreech | nixternal: I've been reloading it for two hours now | 10:21 |
| nixternal | http://i.dell.com/images/global/brand/billboard/728/hp_linux_728x228.jpg | 10:21 |
| DaSkreech | I guess they don't like jamaica | 10:21 |
| nixternal | lol | 10:21 |
| dregorth | hehe | 10:21 |
| DaSkreech | I got it this morning though | 10:21 |
| nixternal | how could they not like Jamaica? | 10:21 |
| DaSkreech | Well obviously we deserve to pay for Vista | 10:22 |
| DaSkreech | I keep getting that one | 10:22 |
| nixternal | I need to get back out to Negril one of these days | 10:22 |
| dregorth | ick vista... | 10:22 |
| nixternal | heh, I don't get the Vista one | 10:22 |
| nixternal | I get the Energy Smart one quite a bit | 10:22 |
| dregorth | after 7 refreshes i got the ubuntu ad heh | 10:26 |
| dregorth | mainly got the ones for windows server 2k8 and the energy | 10:26 |
| dregorth | like i need a server... ^^ | 10:26 |
| nixternal | Windows Server 2008 | 10:26 |
| nixternal | just got that one | 10:26 |
| nixternal | I can't believe we are sitting here refreshing that page...don't we have something else better to do :P | 10:27 |
| dregorth | lol nope | 10:27 |
| dregorth | not me anyway | 10:27 |
| repete | kwwii: ping | 10:27 |
| DaSkreech | hi kwwii | 10:27 |
| kwwii | repete: pong | 10:27 |
| kwwii | howdy DaSkreech | 10:27 |
| dregorth | g/f just got outta school but i found out 10 mins ago she has to go back for some stuff :/ | 10:27 |
| dregorth | so nope, nothing better at all | 10:27 |
| dregorth | lol | 10:27 |
| nixternal | uh oh, it is that art dude | 10:28 |
| kwwii | :p | 10:28 |
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| Tonio_ | I have to go back home... | 10:29 |
| mhb | nixternal: we don't, we are all waiting for the meeting | 10:29 |
| DaSkreech | kwwii: have you given thought to having a userlist KDM login? | 10:29 |
| Tonio_ | see you tomorrow, and sorry for not beeing there toonight..... | 10:29 |
| nixternal | mhb: I think you are right | 10:29 |
| nixternal | I am going to shower first...back in a few | 10:29 |
| dregorth | nixternal: ya, showers are always a plus lol | 10:29 |
| dregorth | mhb: what meeting is this, eh? | 10:30 |
| jjesse | kubuntu meeting | 10:30 |
| mhb | nixternal: shower's a great idea, will keep me awake during the meeting :o) | 10:31 |
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| dregorth | ahh i believe i was reading about a meeting yesterday somewhere on a site for (k)ubuntu | 10:31 |
| dregorth | interesting | 10:31 |
| kwwii | DaSkreech: yepp, but there is no code to support that | 10:31 |
| DaSkreech | kwwii: there is one on KDE apps I heat | 10:32 |
| DaSkreech | hear | 10:32 |
| dregorth | saw it required you to be a member tho and have a wiki page and all that kinda stuff so i figured i wouldn't do it seeing as how i don't have anything interesting to put about myself in the wiki | 10:32 |
| kwwii | DaSkreech: it is based on the suse stuff I worked on a long time ago I bet and that is a total hack | 10:32 |
| jjesse | you can attend the mtg w/o being a member | 10:32 |
| dregorth | and don't have any significant contributions to anything related to (k)ubuntu | 10:32 |
| dregorth | oh really? | 10:32 |
| DaSkreech | ok | 10:32 |
| dregorth | i guess i missed that part lol | 10:32 |
| jjesse | if you want to be a kubuntu team member then you have to have a wiki page, etc | 10:32 |
| DaSkreech | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kubuntu+Feisty+UserList++?content=56914 | 10:33 |
| DaSkreech | kwwii: ^^^ Guess there is an easy way to finid out | 10:33 |
| dregorth | oh well when is this meeting then? | 10:34 |
| kwwii | DaSkreech: I'll look into it - it does not appear to be the same hack, as it is only 312KB | 10:34 |
| === DaSkreech nods | ||
| === Jucato points dregorth to the topic | ||
| DaSkreech | I just thought it would be nice to have a home friendly option to ship in Gibbon | 10:35 |
| dregorth | lol ty Jucato | 10:35 |
| Jucato | er /topic | 10:35 |
| kwwii | DaSkreech: definitely, as long as it does not do anything screwey with code | 10:36 |
| dregorth | sheesh. brain definitely isn't working today ;) | 10:36 |
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| ypsila | moin | 10:40 |
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| kwwii | DaSkreech: looks pretty straight forward, unless some problem arises that I cannot see now I do not see why we cannot do that | 10:41 |
| DaSkreech | Wheee :) | 10:41 |
| ypsila | kwwii: :-D | 10:41 |
| === kwwii waves hello to ypsila from Franken | ||
| === DaSkreech prompts someone to tack it onto the meeting agenda | ||
| ypsila | kwwii: you are not in Franken! | 10:41 |
| kwwii | right, I am in Bamberg! | 10:42 |
| ypsila | kwwii: you are in Oberfranken :-) | 10:42 |
| kwwii | better than franken | 10:42 |
| neversfelde | Mittelfranken rocks :D | 10:42 |
| kwwii | I like to call it Ueberfranken | 10:42 |
| neversfelde | hello all | 10:42 |
| neversfelde | rofl | 10:42 |
| ypsila | kwwii: pschhttt, don't tell them what kind of beer we have and knodels ;-) | 10:42 |
| kwwii | ;-) | 10:42 |
| ypsila | they will invase us :-D | 10:43 |
| kwwii | it seem somehow fitting that germans take over kubuntu :p | 10:43 |
| mhb | ypsila: everyone knows the best beer and kndels come from Czech Rep. | 10:43 |
| kwwii | after 7+ years at suse I just thought that all kde devs are german | 10:43 |
| ypsila | mhb: wrong! the czechs do consume more beer :-) | 10:43 |
| kwwii | beer originated in belgium, so we both lose | 10:44 |
| mhb | heh | 10:44 |
| === dregorth prefers irish beer and blames it on his heritage | ||
| dregorth | although german beer is definitely comparable | 10:44 |
| kwwii | but there are more breweries in franken per capita than anywhere else in the world | 10:44 |
| ypsila | mhb: my grandmother was born in czechoslovakia, so I adopted a lot about kndel | 10:44 |
| kwwii | bhmische kndel is my favorite :-) | 10:45 |
| neversfelde | uh | 10:45 |
| mhb | that reminds me ... everytime somebody says ubuntu is an african distribution I tell them kubuntu is scottish | 10:45 |
| ypsila | kwwii: how are they made? I love semmelkndel | 10:45 |
| Lure | mhb: lol | 10:45 |
| dregorth | lol | 10:45 |
| neversfelde | hehe | 10:45 |
| kwwii | ypsila: it is very similar to a semmelkndel - you might know it as serviertklo | 10:46 |
| ypsila | mhb: scottish? isn't that the country where men do wear no underwear? | 10:46 |
| DaSkreech | ypsila: Or do they??? | 10:46 |
| dregorth | good old kilts | 10:46 |
| dregorth | never would wear one myself tho >< | 10:46 |
| ypsila | kwwii: okeh, I love them, in case you need a pracicable recipe, I deveopped one for microwave! | 10:46 |
| kwwii | the best part was their tendency to eat magic mushrooms before they went to war | 10:47 |
| dregorth | lol made it more interesting i'm sure | 10:47 |
| ypsila | pruhust | 10:47 |
| kwwii | lol, I would like to see that recipe - I still do it in a double boiler | 10:47 |
| ypsila | kwwii: gimme your mail it is "dev-proof" :-) | 10:47 |
| kwwii | kwwii at kubuntu dot com | 10:48 |
| DaSkreech | anyone want to confirm a crash in adept? | 10:48 |
| ypsila | 8 mins ready to serve! | 10:48 |
| ypsila | kwwii: promised | 10:48 |
| manchicken | Grumble. KDE 3.5.7 has a bad kpilot version. | 10:48 |
| kwwii | ypsila: as long as it doesn't turn into a bouncing bread ball, I will try it | 10:48 |
| manchicken | The version in our repos does that is. | 10:48 |
| neversfelde | DaSkreech: in which situation crashes it? | 10:49 |
| ypsila | kwwii: my grandmother was born in Czechoslovakia, and made the world greatest Semmelkndel, I only ported it to micro-wave-ovens ;-) | 10:50 |
| kwwii | other than bread, onions, eggs, nutmeg, parsly, salt and pepper, what is in it? | 10:50 |
| DaSkreech | neversfelde: adept -> manage repos -> Change server -> Find fastest server -> KRASH!! | 10:50 |
| kwwii | one of the best meals ever: a nice beef filet steak with semmelkndel and chanterelle mushroom sauce (pfifferlingsoe) | 10:52 |
| kwwii | ok, back to linux ;-) | 10:53 |
| ypsila | kwwii: nutmweg? | 10:53 |
| kwwii | muskatnuss | 10:53 |
| neversfelde | DaSkreech: I do have "Find Best Server" and it freezes, i#ll give it a second try | 10:53 |
| jjesse | kwwii: we are grilling tuna steaks marinated in a lime cilantro sauce w/ a nice wine to go along with it | 10:53 |
| ypsila | ah nothing! | 10:53 |
| jjesse | :) | 10:53 |
| kwwii | jjesse: sounds excellent - can't get cilantro here | 10:53 |
| jjesse | kwwii: why not? just curious | 10:53 |
| ypsila | jjesse: for the one who stands at the grill | 10:53 |
| kwwii | a pretty good replacement is a bit of oregano | 10:54 |
| ypsila | cilantro ist what? | 10:54 |
| kwwii | as cilantro is basically mexican oregano | 10:54 |
| ypsila | Zitronengras? | 10:54 |
| jjesse | oh didn't know that | 10:54 |
| === jjesse learns something new | ||
| kwwii | I can get it from a wholesale place but I have to buy like 5K of it | 10:54 |
| jjesse | wow | 10:54 |
| kwwii | well, it is still not the same | 10:54 |
| kwwii | but close | 10:54 |
| ypsila | kwwii: it is Koriander in Germany | 10:54 |
| kwwii | ypsila: no, it is not | 10:55 |
| kwwii | trust me | 10:55 |
| jjesse | we are growing cilantro, basil, jalepeno peppers and three types of tomatoes in our garden | 10:55 |
| kwwii | koriander is pretty close too though | 10:55 |
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| ypsila | google says it is | 10:55 |
| kwwii | lol | 10:55 |
| Jucato | someone wake up Hobbsee :) | 10:55 |
| kwwii | ach du scheisse, leo says the same thing | 10:55 |
| kwwii | but that is not right | 10:56 |
| ypsila | kwwii: so? what is cilantro? | 10:56 |
| ryanakca | aren't koriander/coriander and cilantro the same thing? | 10:56 |
| ypsila | jjesse: I grow a lot of that in my garden | 10:56 |
| ryanakca | ypsila: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriander | 10:56 |
| ypsila | and I love dried seeds | 10:56 |
| jjesse | ypsila: yeah we are trying to grow it, if it doesn't die | 10:56 |
| ryanakca | ypsila: that's cilantro. and that's coriander. | 10:56 |
| jjesse | my wife and aren't the greatest gardeners | 10:56 |
| kwwii | but coriander in america is not cilantro | 10:57 |
| kwwii | funky, you learn something new every day | 10:57 |
| ypsila | jjesse: it depends on the yeats, I arrived to die three thyms in three years | 10:57 |
| neversfelde | DaSkreech: I can confirm it | 10:57 |
| DaSkreech | neversfelde: thanks | 10:57 |
| ryanakca | hmmm | 10:57 |
| kwwii | ryanakca: I take that back, you are right | 10:57 |
| kwwii | coriander = cilantro | 10:58 |
| kwwii | it is late here | 10:58 |
| kwwii | well, late for me | 10:58 |
| ryanakca | :) | 10:58 |
| jjesse | coriander is the seed of the cilantro plant | 10:58 |
| ryanakca | kwwii: staying for the meeting? | 10:58 |
| jjesse | so my wife the food expert says | 10:58 |
| ypsila | kwwii: you will get that at every good market, and even the seeds to plant them | 10:58 |
| ypsila | jjesse: ??? | 10:58 |
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| kwwii | ahaa- one is the seeds and the other is the leaves | 10:59 |
| ypsila | kwwii: fresh at any asia-shop | 10:59 |
| jjesse | i asked my wife if corriander and cilantro was the same thing and she said that corriander is the seed | 10:59 |
| kwwii | ypsila: exactly | 10:59 |
| ypsila | the leaves look like persil | 10:59 |
| kwwii | the leaves have a much more lemon-like taste | 10:59 |
| Riddell | ** kubuntu meeting in a couple of minutes in #ubuntu-meeting | 10:59 |
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| ypsila | h? | 10:59 |
| kwwii | ryanakca: yes, I'll be at the meeting | 11:00 |
| ypsila | Riddell: are you kidding? | 11:00 |
| Riddell | ypsila: nope | 11:00 |
| jjesse | check the /topic | 11:00 |
| ryanakca | ypsila: meeting at 2100UTC, today | 11:00 |
| ypsila | can someone pls explain that to me? | 11:01 |
| ryanakca | ypsila: it's at 9 PM in the UTC timezone | 11:02 |
| ryanakca | ypsila: so, 9PM in the UK... | 11:02 |
| yuriy | oops joined on the wrong server. need to get used to irssi more | 11:03 |
| DaSkreech | Someone called Hobbsee? | 11:03 |
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| Jucato | _StefanS_ssssssssss!!!! | 11:04 |
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| DaSkreech | Jucato: seen the stats for #ubuntu ? | 11:34 |
| Hobbsee_ | DaSkreech: no, no one called me | 11:34 |
| Jucato | aw.. :( | 11:34 |
| DaSkreech | :-P | 11:34 |
| mhb | nixternal: good to have someone on the council who can be blamed | 11:34 |
| Jucato | DaSkreech: yeah. can't believe intelikey finally overtook me :( | 11:34 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 11:34 |
| DaSkreech | Jucato: No #ubuntu | 11:34 |
| DaSkreech | Ubotu is the one to rule them all | 11:34 |
| Jucato | lol | 11:34 |
| fdoving | DaSkreech: if that is my ubuntu stat, it's not accurate, i haven't been in there all the time.. :) | 11:34 |
| DaSkreech | fdoving: Nope mostly at night :) | 11:35 |
| Riddell | seele: about? | 11:35 |
| nixternal | Jucato: ya, exactly what toma said in the meeting! you definitely deserve it! | 11:37 |
| === Jucato feels all warm and fuzzy :) | ||
| Jucato | nixternal: but I would have felt a bit awkward, as I would be the only non-contributing member | 11:38 |
| mhb | Jucato: I'll vote for you next time :o) | 11:38 |
| Jucato | by contributing, I mean tech stuff :) | 11:38 |
| fdoving | Jucato: hah, you're probably one of the most contributing members ever! EOD. | 11:44 |
| Jucato | lol :) | 11:44 |
| === Jucato is flattened | ||
| Jucato | er... flattered | 11:44 |
| fdoving | #kubuntu is important for kubuntu, and you're one of the few who helps in there. | 11:45 |
| fdoving | it's not like you make a package and go do other stuff, you sitt there waiting for new questions, keep up the great work :) | 11:46 |
| fdoving | packaging/hacking/docs is not the only way to contribute. | 11:46 |
| fdoving | building communtity and happy users is important too. | 11:46 |
| nixternal | fdoving: he is about the only one, oh and lets not forget #kde | 11:46 |
| marseillai_ | nixternal: for kima don't care i follow it because 0.2 is buggy! 0.3 is in svn for the moment... if you want i let it to you | 11:47 |
| fdoving | nixternal: i'm not in #kde, wouldn't know anything about it. | 11:47 |
| nixternal | he does just as much there..he is nuts with the IRC support...like a hamster on crack...or the energizer bunny | 11:47 |
| fdoving | even better :) | 11:47 |
| nixternal | marseillai_: need to check and see if it is in Debian | 11:47 |
| Jucato | roflmao! yeah energizer :) | 11:47 |
| nixternal | that is you | 11:47 |
| Jucato | hehehe | 11:48 |
| Jucato | although I needed to take some breaks lately... just enough so that I could finish 2-3 chapters of C++ :/ | 11:48 |
| ryanakca | Jucato: ever thought of joining the New User Network? | 11:50 |
| Jucato | oh... :( | 11:51 |
| Jucato | kinda forgotten about that ever since I sort of vanished from the classroom | 11:51 |
| === ryanakca wonders if he should just ask to have it scrapped, and have the couple active people reform a new group, without any history/etc dragging it down | ||
| === ryanakca hasn't been that active lately. hmm. | ||
| Jucato | ryanakca: I can't comit myself to NUN right now. I'm trying hard as I can to study C++ on my own. which will eventually lead to Qt and finally KDE development. trying to focus on that.. and planning to learn about packing on the sides... | 11:58 |
| ryanakca | okies | 11:58 |
| Jucato | but if NUN has any projects that will involve IRC and KubuntuForums.Net users, feel free to inform me and I will advertise :) | 11:59 |
| ryanakca | ok | 12:00 |
| Riddell | ypsila: did I remember you were thinking about membership once? | 12:02 |
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| kwwii | DaSkreech: so what do you mean exactly? | 12:09 |
| DaSkreech | kwwii: What's the policy on artwork? | 12:09 |
| kwwii | not sure what you mean exactly | 12:09 |
| DaSkreech | if changes are made to something should they be pushed back upstream? | 12:09 |
| kwwii | most of the changes we do are kubuntu specific, but anything generic enough can go upstream, yes | 12:09 |
| kwwii | note that /me is upstream :p | 12:10 |
| DaSkreech | for Polyester Domino and QTcurve? | 12:10 |
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