[12:16] Lure: done [12:17] Riddell: thanks, have subscribed ubuntu-archive [12:19] fabo: what creates .version files in the guidance package? === Dinofly [n=dinofly@mar92-13-88-165-255-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:37] manchicken: They do release a lot of code as well [12:37] Daskreech: What now? [12:38] Google [12:38] They do release internal code to oss [12:38] Just boring stuff :) [12:38] they do? [12:39] I've never noticed that, except where they have to [12:40] I'm happy with them paying the SoC :o) [12:41] http://code.google.com/projects.html [12:43] ah, right, spose so [12:43] Daskreech: I don't recall saying anything about Google today. [12:43] manchicken: me either [12:44] I thought it about time :-) [12:44] Oh. Googles contributions are insufficient to make up for the privacy and freedom violations they've committed. [12:44] I've not noticed any of them either [12:45] I've noticed a lot of proprietary stuff and a lot of disingenuous grooming of the Free Software community. :) === RadiantFire [n=ryan@upstream/dev/RadiantFire] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-58-51.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:27] manchicken: yeah I said they were boring stuff :0 === kwwii [n=kwwii@khepri.openbios.org] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:50] was someone looking for me? [02:52] hi kwwii [02:53] hello Daskreech === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:53] hi jjesse :) [02:53] How are you? [02:54] good, frustrated at my dog, who insists he has to go outside and then nothing [02:54] hi Daskreech, jjesse, all [02:55] jjesse: maybe he wants to walk [02:55] its not time for that yet [02:55] or maybe he is messing with your mind [02:55] he goes at nine thirty [02:55] every day [02:55] loading up a gutsy vm right now :) [02:55] dogs are a lot smarter than you think :-) [02:56] :-) === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.107.93] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.179.108] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:10] my 3 dogs are definitely smarter than me === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-026.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:12] they can tell when I am faking sleep early in the am [03:12] I read on your wiki that some apps needed to be programmed. Are any of these apps in Python? [03:14] claydoh: They know your mensis :-) [03:16] maybe, but it still suck if I acidently wake up at 4 a,m, they all wanna go outside === claydoh has less patience than the mrs, they never get her with that one [03:19] Oh that yeah === claydoh is enjoying kmymoney2 0.9 cvs [03:22] wait that gets developed? === claydoh also almost misread mensis for something else :), and subsequently felt stupid :) [03:23] ha ha :) [03:24] 0.9 has, get this, wizard driven online banking setup that *works*!! [03:25] Joking [03:25] it pretends to be IE? :) === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-026.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [03:34] lol I have yet to use IE7 === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-026.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:34] hi, I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but i'm trying to register up on kubuntu.org, and its stalling. [03:36] claydoh: how nice is it to use? [03:36] I was going to use it a while back for personal finances then I ran out of finances to manage :( [03:37] well it works, in stable versions, but ofx was always hit and miss [03:38] being too lazy to manually enter transactions makes a working ofx very handy [03:39] OFX direct connectis broken/missing in Feisty/edgy [03:40] so you can od ofx and it catalogs them automatically? [03:40] hadn't tried it in a long time, so I decided to compile from cvs instead of stable, and viola [03:40] yes [03:41] before, I had to set Konq file association for manually downloaded ofx files [03:41] now, it is Just Like Quicken [03:42] kinda [03:42] missing a big "download transactions" button tho [03:43] quicken was the last win app Ikept, until they removed support for it and force me to buy the new version [03:43] 2003 i think [03:43] yeah [03:43] with the subscriptions === nosrednaekim [n=michael@01-026.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [03:48] when i say my last windows app of course does not mean games :) [03:48] :-P [03:48] Yeah [03:48] Duh [04:18] exit [04:18] oops, sorry [04:23] :-) === Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:32] mhb? [04:32] grin :) [04:32] nice one Daskreech [04:32] jjesse: Which one? :) [04:33] the exit :) [04:33] ah === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db446d8.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:43] slow night?? [04:47] yeah === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:46] hi all [05:47] hi Hobbsee [05:47] :) [05:49] how are you [05:50] meh [05:50] i'm attemtping to summon the energy to get up and actually do anything [05:50] and knetworkmanager is being painful [05:53] Yeah it does that [05:53] which is surprising, as it didnt used to === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:57] Hobbsee: What about posting with a language? [05:57] Daskreech: sorry? [06:00] Hobbsee: You had a blog post a few days ago [06:01] something about posting in a different language that sounded too much like it was something you had hit in RL === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:10] Daskreech: i dont understand [06:10] oh, the harassment one? [06:10] Yeah [06:11] i have hit most of that in real life, yes === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@ubuntu/member/mhb] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:12] Someone being offensive because of speaking a different language? [06:13] or pretending to not be offensive by speaking a different language? [06:13] i didnt say that in a blog post [06:13] i said "just because something is OK in one culture, does that mean it's okay in all of them?" type idea === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch [06:14] Yeah you also said before that that at what point in a post do you decide that it's not the language barrier that the person is just being rude [06:14] type [06:15] idea. sounded like something specific :) [06:15] true that [06:15] sure. didnt you see \sh's sexy lady from au post? [06:16] Nope [06:16] was it on planet ubuntu? === Daskreech admits he rarely reads it. [06:18] it was === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@ubuntu/member/mhb] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:19] Daskreech: http://linux.blogweb.de/ === poningru` [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:20] Daskreech: specifically http://linux.blogweb.de/archives/301-Ubuntu-is-going-to-be-sexy....html [06:21] holy jeebus...writing cmake files aren't all that fun [06:21] Hobbsee: I don't care what people say, Kubuntu is secksy [06:22] and I am still pissed that I wasn't considered secksy! [06:22] nixternal: heh === nixternal starts talking like Austin Powers [06:22] haha, or better yet, Fat Bastard [06:22] get in ma belly [06:23] nixternal: you really want the guys to think of you as sexy? [06:24] hey, better then me thinking I am just to curb the lonelyness [06:24] ;p [06:24] haha [06:24] Hobbsee: is that link right? [06:25] yes [06:25] if you take teh whole link [06:25] as in append .html ? [06:25] duh [06:25] take the whole link, as is, including the 4 .'s [06:25] not htlm [06:25] indeed [06:25] you could just copy paste it [06:26] one dot works as well ... [06:26] but ok === mhb [n=mhb@ubuntu/member/mhb] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:27] ah right [06:27] i have no idea why it was done that way [06:27] hi mhb === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb [n=mhb@ubuntu/member/mhb] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb_ [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel === stdin [i=stdin@unaffiliated/binary2k2] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.107.93] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-009-056.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === morn|eri [n=mornfall@p57a0d34f.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:55] Hobbsee: but you are secksy! (and nixternal isn't) :P [07:55] Jucato: :P [07:59] poor Vista user he is :\ [08:03] yeah [08:03] crimsun: nixternal isnt serious aobut anything except his pointy-clicky Vista love. he said so last night. === morn|eri [n=mornfall@p57a0d34f.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === morn|eri [n=mornfall@p57a0d34f.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato_ [n=jucato@ubuntu/member/Jucato] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #kubuntu-devel === morn|eri [n=mornfall@p57a0d34f.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === LongPointyStick is now known as Hobbsee === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44405.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Starting logfile irclogs/kubuntu-devel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Topic for #kubuntu-devel: Adios Espania! | Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Merge! | Bugs! https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-team/+packagebugs | Kubuntu Meeting on 31 May, 2100 UTC - see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings === Topic (#kubuntu-devel): set by Hobbsee at Sun May 27 17:39:08 2007 === _marseillais [n=marseill@195.200.176.77] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Czessi-m [n=czessi@217.237.166.82] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@81.185.112.75] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:08] hey [09:12] hi Tonio_ [09:13] hey lure :) === froud [n=sean@dsl-242-140-210.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel === larsivi|Zzz is now known as larsivi [09:29] Lure: little question concerning libdvdread [09:29] Lure: debian added the builddep to add dvd ripping function to k3b [09:29] Lure: shouldn't we try to get libdvdread in main to do the same ? [09:29] Tonio_: that would be great === Lure uses medibuntu, so did not notice it ;-) [09:30] Lure: I think so.... === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@c-71-194-189-213.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:30] Lure: yeah I know, I did the medibuntu package :) [09:30] Lure: okay let's add this to todo again then..... [09:30] Lure: still no internet connection at home........ [09:30] :'( [09:30] Tonio_: it looks like french ISP suck [09:30] ;-) === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:31] Lure: no they globally rock, as long as you don't have a problem [09:32] the problem is that there are 2 telecom services, and each one pretends this is the others fault [09:32] the issue is that I have to go through the all process of validating everything even if I know where the problem is [09:32] it takes one hour to fix, not more........ [09:33] but they have to test this, and that, and then this again etc....... [09:33] Lure: f*cking bureaucraty.......; [09:33] Tonio_: last i knew, libdvdread was in main [09:34] Hobbsee: it's in universe....... [09:34] maybe demoted or so, I don't know....; [09:34] okay, when i last modified it, it was in main === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === morn|eri [n=mornfall@217.237.166.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ is merging k3b [09:35] Hobbsee: so it would be easy to get it in main then.... === hunger [n=tobias@pd95b0676.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:43] true [09:43] i've no idea hwy it was demoted [09:45] Hobbsee: maybe because there is no more application in main using this ? :) [09:45] quite possibly [09:45] hum, I have a couple of improvements for kds too....... let's upload [09:45] :) [09:46] I found a few things to improve while working for the french parliament :) [09:46] what are they? [09:46] Hobbsee: can do alt+print to catch the window and not the full screen [09:46] for example [09:47] in ksnapshot? [09:47] yup [09:47] nice :) [09:47] well using ksnapshot -c in fact [09:47] Hobbsee: do you know what is the status for the new usb stuff unmount thing from fdoving ? [09:48] Hobbsee: we should upload the package to revu right now, then get it in universe, and then in main etc....... [09:48] will be long, so we should start right now [09:48] Tonio_: i believe he said it was going thru you [09:48] Hobbsee: it is [09:48] it looks good ot me, but mine keeps erroring out with the newest block anyway [09:48] but as I have no internet connection for at least 10 days........ [09:48] yeah, fair enough [09:48] Hobbsee: I haven't been very active due to that recently [09:49] yeah, fair enough [09:49] one month without a connection [09:49] my girlfriend is happy of this, I'm not :) [09:49] i thought it was already on revu? [09:49] haha [09:49] Hobbsee: it isn't, bt I'll upload today, will you revu this ? [09:49] get fdoving to upload it, if you want [09:49] in fact, i thought it might already be there. [09:50] Hobbsee: well I think there was a couple of things to fix in fdoving package..... [09:50] Hobbsee: will do that today [09:50] I'd like to get that in soon [09:50] Riddell: ping ? [09:51] Riddell: I have a fix, as you know, for the usplash on shutdown [09:51] Riddell: but I'd like to discuss with you about the way to implement this [09:51] Riddell: as this requires touching init.d files.... [09:52] Riddell: dpkg-divert seems the nice way to do it, but that means beeing carefully to provide a file that feets the latest provided by kdm and the usplash packages....... [09:52] Tonio_: ah, koay [09:52] Tonio_: there's a meeting tomorrow, btw. [09:52] where tomorrow may equal anything in your tz [09:53] Tonio_: you can upload, and you only need one other ack. i'm fine to do that other ack, once on a linux-based system. [09:53] Hobbsee: which time ? [09:53] the meeting ? [09:54] <_marseillais> 23 heures [09:54] tomorrow or today ? [09:54] <_marseillais> today [09:54] ^ topic [09:54] Hobbsee: hum, right :) [09:55] Hobbsee: I can't be there, as there is no internet home...... [09:56] Hobbsee: are we deciding the new council toonight ? [09:56] proposing, at least, ithnk [09:56] got suggestions? [09:57] Hobbsee: well I'm undecided if I wanna stay a member or not... [09:57] Hobbsee: I'd like too but we need to rotate people.... [09:57] why so? [09:57] if we're rotatingn half... [09:57] Hobbsee: well who are we rotating then ? [09:57] i'd still like to see you on there [09:57] toma and ? [09:57] allee, toma, raphink, iirc [09:58] hum, well raphink makes sense as he doesn't have that much free time now [09:58] I think we should keep allee [09:58] but that's my opinion [09:58] allee thinks I should be prior to him....... [09:58] I told Riddell that I might not be very useful in the council aznymore [09:58] undecision sucks :) [09:58] given my poor contributions lately [09:58] hehe. both of you think they should step down. [09:59] well I'm not being very useful there [09:59] I'm more useful mentoring in the MOTU team [09:59] or contributing to upstream projects [09:59] that's what I'm doing mostly lately, and it's easier for me because that's where I work [09:59] you remind me of some people at work. "oh, i'll pay" "no i'll pay" (rinse and repeat 10x). "oh just give me hte flipping money..." [10:00] Hobbsee: the point is that if I'm not a member of the council, who will force the decision to remove kexi ? ^_^ [10:00] I should stay a member at least till kexi is removed from the cd :) === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:00] hehe [10:01] Hobbsee: well btw I'd like to stay there as I think I can be usefull on that point [10:01] it's not like you cant make decions bing on there [10:01] ooh...lag [10:01] Tonio_: i think so too [10:01] but I'll leave if we need to rotate one more people === _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:10] we'll see [10:15] Riddell: yes, it is dh_pysupport. [10:35] fabo: but how do I make it stop? [10:38] Riddell: hi ;) [10:39] morning Riddell [10:39] Riddell: talking about the fix for the usplash on shutdown, are you okay with 2 init.d files provided with kds and dpkg-divert rules ? [10:44] Tonio_: why two? [10:45] Riddell: because to get the complete usplash we need to patch init.d/kdm and init.d/usplash [10:45] Riddell: second part of the shutdown process is done via usplash [10:45] Riddell: in case we only patch one, we don't get the all shutdown graphically [10:45] Riddell: tested on 1000 pcs, that works :) [10:46] ok, so edit those files, why the need for the diverts? [10:47] Riddell: because touching etc files is a policy violation [10:47] Riddell: and those files are provided by packages, so touching then requires human action to approve or reject at every update of usplash of kdm [10:47] Riddell: divert them makes upgrade silent, and is respecfull reguarding to the debian policy :) [10:48] Riddell: btw, I think we should consider doing a divert for the kdmrc and backgroundrc files too, instead of doing a sed.... [10:48] Riddell: what I did for the french parliament is a third binary package from kds [10:48] Riddell: kind of kubuntu-etc-files [10:49] Riddell: and doing divert for those files === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:49] Riddell: we should consider this for kubuntu in my opinion no ? [10:49] what's wrong with editing init.d/kdm and init.d/usplash in the packaging? [10:50] Riddell: why do you want to make it stop ? we need .version to support specific python version [10:51] fabo: because it creates the .version file in all three packages so it overlaps [10:51] Riddell: ho you mean in the packaging ? [10:51] Tonio_: yes [10:51] Riddell: hum nothing's wrong there, except I'd like to be sure touching usplash doesn't create any issue [10:51] Riddell: that can impact gnome too [10:51] well write it in such a way that it doesn't :) [10:51] Riddell: lol [10:52] kdm will get installed by gnome users too, including those that still use gdm [10:52] Riddell: well it shouldn't cause any trouble btw === jonasp [i=jonas@i59F764B6.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:52] if it doesn't cause any trouble then change the init file installed by usplash [10:53] Riddell: yup [10:53] Riddell: I'll also have to remove your kdm patch for usplash [10:53] of course [10:53] let's go then :) [10:53] but but, I spent two days on that patch! [10:53] (and it's still crap) === Tonio_ [n=tonio@81.185.112.75] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mhb_ is now known as mhb [11:06] good morning [11:06] Riddell: i asked python-support dev. POV, but i wonder why i've got it only in powermanager ... [11:21] fabo: by the way I changed mv powermanager/*.py $(PYSUPPORT_PATH) to cp powermanager/*.py $(PYSUPPORT_PATH) [11:22] since mv was changing the sources [11:25] Riddell: out of curiosity, how's python and spurious CPU wakeups? :) [11:26] anyone here tried powertop on kubuntu already? [11:26] and what results? === Tonio_ [n=tonio@81.185.112.75] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:27] morn|eri: I havn't, although we included Kretz's patch for arts from his powertop searching [11:27] I don't see why python in general would be bad for cpu wakeups [11:28] i applied matthias patch on arts for infos. nothing to report atm. [11:29] Riddell: i have noticed some interpreter stuff in powertop when running amarok, from the scripts [11:29] Riddell: may or may not be case with other scripted apps [11:30] Riddell: i wonder if the bug is to use PYSUPPORT_PATH everywhere ... it must use /usr/share/python-support/$PACKAGE [11:31] fabo: for now I've worked around it by just not using pyversions [11:32] i'll do the test to confirm [11:37] but the powertop thing is really great [11:37] running a tickless kernel with the funky patches and doing some userspace tuning -does- improve battery life [11:38] morn|eri: I run powertop [11:38] 2 hours on wireless already and still 3.5h left [11:38] morn|eri: there are still other offenders before powermanager ;-) [11:38] ~12 watt [11:39] morn|eri: my bigest problem is usb (bluetooth) [11:39] autosuspend seems to work here [11:39] no bt tho [11:39] morn|eri: it does 100 wakeups/sec when inactive (but turned on due to wireless) [11:39] icky [11:40] Riddell: I have read somewhere that the python interactive shell wakes up ever 100 ms or something [11:41] RadiantFire: me to, but powermanager (python up) doe not get powertop list at all... [11:41] RadiantFire: I suspect python in ubuntu already has fix [11:48] Tonio_: launchpad doesn't let me change the status of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-bluetooth [11:48] Tonio_: if you think it's ready, please change to "pending approval" [11:48] Riddell: sure [11:48] Tonio_: ah, wait [11:49] Tonio_: scott approved it, sorted [11:49] Riddell: yep, that's what I saw === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db447a2.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:54] ah yes, powertop doesn't like me because I'm not using acpi === mschiff [n=mschiff@e176104198.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [11:59] Riddell: what do you use? [12:00] Lure: a crappy laptop === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=user@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:16] lol, should I suggest that JRT work on Kubuntu? [12:17] kwwii: see when I said yesterday about you not doing art any more, it was a joke! we love you! don't leave us to JRT! [12:21] kwwii: well, if he does rant again I think that's a good time to unsubscribe him from the list [12:21] Riddell: JRT? [12:22] Lure: KDE's most famous non-contributor === marseillai_ [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-146-197.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:41] Riddell: :-) I sent a nice email asking him to stop - if he doesn't listen he is gone [12:41] he is legally blind but wants to tell us how to do artwork :p === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai [n=mars@AMarseille-156-1-146-197.w90-36.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:59] <_StefanS_> Riddell: I was considering applying for kubuntu membership later today [12:59] oh... the meeting's tomorrow :/ [01:00] _StefanS_: great! [01:00] _StefanS_: make sure you make yourself a wiki page [01:00] _StefanS_: go for it! you have my support! [01:00] <_StefanS_> Riddell: err, was the meeting yesterday ? :D [01:00] _StefanS_: not that I count ;-) [01:00] _StefanS_: 10 hours time [01:01] <_StefanS_> Riddell: okay, I will create a wiki [01:01] <_StefanS_> Lure: thanks ;) === morn|eri [n=mornfall@217.237.166.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:23] Riddell: i've done a debdiff for this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/90801 with a patch i've found here : www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/openSUSE+KDE+Tweaks?content=59337 but i can't test it because i don't have a running gutsy [01:23] Launchpad bug 90801 in kdebase "moving desktop icons on kde" [Undecided,Confirmed] [01:24] do you want i give it to you or what should i do with it? [01:26] marseillai: sure, attach the debdiff to the bug report [01:26] oki [01:33] done === morn|eri [n=mornfall@217.237.166.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === tmske [n=thomas@d54C0D13F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@81.185.112.75] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@81.185.112.75] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:04] marseillai: by the way you can make gutsy in a chroot and run from there [02:04] Riddell: i've tryed === viviersf [n=cain@gw.impilinux.co.za] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:04] marseillai: what happened? [02:04] my desktop is too old for this === jjesse [n=jjesse@64.186.55.234] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:04] well yes, that's why you need the chroot [02:04] it is really slow [02:05] morning [02:05] things won't be any slower in a chroot [02:05] good morning jjesse === Ash-Fox [i=UNKNOWN@fgd182.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #Kubuntu-devel [02:05] morning Riddell or its probablly close to afternono for u [02:09] Riddell: FYI, due to missing internet connection at home, I'll not be there toonight [02:09] Riddell: can you during the meeting send to messages for me ? [02:10] Riddell: first is that I +1 marseillai for membership [02:10] Riddell: second is that as long as there is no problem to find the people to rotate, I think I can be usefull as member of the council for one more year, so I am candidate :) === nuu [n=neuro@host119-68-static.104-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nuu [n=neuro@host119-68-static.104-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has left #kubuntu-devel ["I] [02:16] Hobbsee: ready to approve kio-umountwrapper from fdoving ? [02:17] Hobbsee: will be on revu in 2 minutes [02:18] Tonio_: -EWINDOWSXP [02:19] Hobbsee: is that a problem to approve the packaging ? [02:19] Hobbsee: works and builds, believe in me :) [02:19] yes, because i'm not sure waht the password is [02:19] Hobbsee: ah [02:19] feel free to upload and i'll ack late, if you like [02:20] Hobbsee: shame on you, vmware is free don't you remember ? ;) [02:20] this is true [02:20] virtualbox too is, and works like a charm on kubuntu [02:20] that's the way I do my windows stuff now :) [02:21] how is it performance-wise? [02:21] Tonio_: I can look at it [02:23] Lure: great, thanks :) [02:23] Lure: I forgot you were motu now :) [02:28] Tonio_: license in COPYING has wrong FSF address [02:29] Lure: ah ? [02:29] Tonio_: just something fdoving can fix in next upstream relase [02:30] Tonio_: same in some source files [02:30] Lure: well we'll tell him, but that's no reason to reject the package :) [02:30] Tonio_: right, just do not know why I cannot comment in revu [02:30] Tonio_: do I need to be in some special group? [02:31] Lure: no you just need to be motu afaik [02:31] Lure: are you authenticated ? [02:31] Lure: are you in the motu lp group ? [02:31] should work in that case afaik [02:32] Tonio_: I am logged in with my @ubuntu.com address and I am in MOTU in LP [02:32] Lure: you should ping siretart then [02:33] Lure: okay I don't wanna waste time on this :) [02:34] Lure: I approve on revu and upload, can you just add your comment when you get the permissions ? [02:34] Tonio_: yep, just do it - will do === shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-24-210-44-101.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:37] Tonio_: sprry? [02:38] siretart: hey ;) [02:38] siretart: Lure is motu but doesn't appear to have commenting permissions on revu [02:38] siretart: what can explain that ? [02:38] Tonio_: that I need to set its level in revu's postgresdatabase? ;) [02:39] s/its/his/ === nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-122.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:39] siretart: ho you do that manually ? :) fun ! [02:40] Lure: I get the information from /proc/acpi/battery [02:41] there must be a way to get it from hal [02:41] nosrednaekim: not available through "lshal"? [02:41] nosrednaekim: we do not want to read /proc unless really important [02:41] Tonio_: add my support to revu [02:41] Ok. I'm looking to see if its in lshal [02:42] siretart: talking about ffmpeg, I just saw that latest version is in the repos for a few days [02:42]