=== zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === BenC [n=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jml [n=jml@121.44.221.16] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jml_ [n=jml@121.44.221.16] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Shinji1225 [n=Shinji12@adsl-11-54-214.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Shinji1225 [n=Shinji12@adsl-11-54-214.mia.bellsouth.net] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === knewt [i=jmb@home.pimb.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AvengerMoJo [n=alex@219.142.230.241] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === knewt [i=jmb@home.pimb.org] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AvengerMoJo [n=alex@61.14.130.201] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AvengerMoJo [n=alex@61.14.130.201] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === AvengerMoJ1 [n=alex@61.14.130.201] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [05:28] hello all [05:29] what is the reference way to build a -generic kernel from the linux-source package? [05:35] apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) [05:36] then use debian/rules's target [05:39] is that how the pbuilder does it? [05:41] yes [05:41] depending whether you're using feisty or gutsy, you'll need to remove the unneeded configs [05:42] please see the kernel wiki (/topic) === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:08] thanks [06:09] crimsun: im trying to compile the gutsy 2.6.22 kernel for feisty (to work around my sdhc bug) === rtg [n=rtg@rtg.theglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rtg [n=rtg@rtg.theglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jml [n=jml@121.44.221.16] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:35] jmg: here's a better idea, just install the gutsy kernel on feisty [06:35] doesn't matter where it is compiled [06:35] orly? [06:35] it'll work? [06:35] I wouldn't tell you to do it if it would break :) === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@219.64.120.181] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d42844.wlks.losch.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rtg [n=rtg@rtg.theglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rtg [n=rtg@rtg.theglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rtg [n=rtg@rtg.theglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:59] BenC: thanks! :) === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === iwj [n=ian@xenophobe.extern.relativity.greenend.org.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@220.225.228.97] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === abogani [n=alessio@adsl203-157-083.mclink.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@external-1.hermes.si] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Starting logfile irclogs/ubuntu-kernel.log === ubuntulog [i=ubuntulo@ubuntu/bot/ubuntulog] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Topic for #ubuntu-kernel: Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | Kernel Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam | Latest kernel upload: 2.6.22-6.12 | Latest news: -rt and -xen kernels removed, failures in patch | linux-meta uploaded for gutsy 2.6.22 kernels. | New Kernel Team machine: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ === Topic (#ubuntu-kernel): set by crimsun at Wed May 30 22:40:12 2007 === fs [n=fs@213.178.77.100] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-113-187.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:45] any reason we do not enable CONFIG_SND_AC97_POWER_SAVE as suggested by powertop? [11:45] it's very, very experimental. [11:45] last I used it in the feisty round, it did Interesting Things on several machines running emu10k1- and intel8x0- driven boards. [11:46] I can rerun some tests (and more testing is appreciated), but I don't expect things to have changed much. [11:46] I suppose we need more hda-intel coverage, too. === calavera [n=cal@195.Red-80-26-32.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:52] crimsun: ok, I may try it here next time I build my custom kernel [12:15] crimsun: It does nothing with hda-intel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl [n=lfittl@213.129.230.12] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl_ [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:30:216:36ff:fe17:3cef] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:30:216:36ff:fe17:3cef] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:30:216:36ff:fe17:3cef] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491e49f.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === AlinuxOS [n=vsichi@host122-198-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:09] BenC: I just realised - i need the nvidia binary drivers === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:30:216:36ff:fe17:3cef] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === EtienneG [n=etienne@ubuntu/member/EtienneG] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:34] hey guys - is anyone aware of a patch/driver/fix for "Atheros Communications Inc." "Unknown device 001c" "Unknown Device 1033" (From Abit Comp. Corp)? - It's an ethernet controller [01:34] atm i can only boot in recovery mode for some reason and the only difference i can find is that non-recovery tries to start networks === AvengerMoJo [n=alex@219.142.228.211] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [01:34] i'd like to try networks from recovery but have no idea how to get the OS to 'mount' the network cards [01:36] hm, does anybody know what happened to the linux/ip6_tunnel.h header, debian linux-headers package has it, ubuntu doesn't? [02:04] we should add DAC960.ko to /lib/modules inside initrd, by default :/ === fabbione [i=fabbione@gordian.fabbione.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rpereirab [n=rpereira@ubuntu/member/rpereira] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mdomsch [n=Matt_Dom@cpe-70-113-73-138.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rtg [n=rtg@rtg.theglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lonegunman [n=ajz@71-14-95-132.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@backup.grad.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@ds9.pcode.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-180-96.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cassidy [n=cassidy@host-85-27-113-187.brutele.be] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === amitk_ [n=amit@a81-197-135-210.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [06:52] Was there a recent kernel update for Feisty? [06:54] yes [06:54] Crap. My girlfriend's laptop doesn't boot anymore. [06:54] sda<->hda change [06:56] shawarma: If you turn off 'quiet splash' from the grub menu, do you see USB crashes? Or does it just fail to boot? [06:56] rtg: It's using lilo.. [06:56] rtg: ah, and it boots with the old kernel. [06:56] rtg: I'll switch to grub, and grab some debug info. [06:57] lots of people reported that with new kernel their disks aren't sdx anymore, but hdx... [06:57] shawarma: You'll have to ask BenC about that one. I know vanishingly little about lilo. [06:57] rtg: Ah, don't worry about that. [06:57] rtg: I got it. [06:57] ivoks: You are talking about the lib-ata transition from edgy to feisty. I think shawarma already had feisty installed. [06:58] no, i'm talking about feisty old kernel to feisty new kernel [06:58] there are bugs about it [07:00] Now, that's odd. "No ACPI support in kernel" with the old kernel. There used to be.. [07:07] Oh, ffs.. === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@ds9.pcode.nl] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:15] That's odd. It boots just fine with grub. [07:21] Does that make any sense at all? [07:22] shawarma: Do you have root=/dev/sda set in lilo.conf? [07:22] Rather than root=uuid=foo? [07:22] shawarma: yup, grub probably uses UUIDs in the meu.lst file, Lilo probably hard codes /dev/sdX [07:23] mjg59: It says root=/dev/hda3 [07:23] shawarma: That's probably wrong [07:23] shawarma: where is your root partition now? [07:24] mjg59: But lilo shouldn't worry about that, should it? It installed the new kernel while the old one was running.. Looked up /dev/hda3 to be the third partition on the first harddrive and when rebooting it would just use that? Or have I not understood lilo at all? [07:24] pkl_: Interestingly, it's the same. [07:24] pkl_: So nothing has changed w.r.t. device names. [07:24] shawarma: It passes that argument to the kernel [07:25] mjg59: Doh.. Of course. [07:25] mjg59: Nevertheless: It's the same name. [07:26] shawarma: how far does the boot get? Do you get past the LILO message? [07:26] When I came to the machine it was in an initramfs prompt. When I rebooted it, I got impatient, booted the old kernel and fixed it.. It would have been interesting to find out what went wrong. [07:27] I suppose I could reinstall lilo just for kicks if you're interested? [07:27] reinstalling lilo would probably make the problem go away anyway. [07:28] You think? If I do it with the old kernel running? [07:30] shawarma: hmm, it may not work with the old kernel no. [07:31] Would it be helpful in any way to get some debugging info this way? [07:31] no you should just use uuid ;) [07:32] Yes.. I wonder why it wasn't migrated back in the day. [07:32] Did we only do it for grub? [07:32] afaik lilo is not directly supported [07:32] raid doesn't work with grub, so it must be supported to some degree. [07:33] why shouldn't it work, sure it does with grub [07:36] Hm.. [07:36] I'm *almost* sure the installer falls back to lilo if you're either using xfs or raid (or both). === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@219.64.120.181] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [07:41] grub has the xfs patch [07:41] last lilo fallback i know of is when you go all on lvm [07:42] That works with grub. [07:43] I'm almost sure of it. [07:43] hehe *almost* [07:44] I'll try. I've got a feisty install on the way in a virtualbox [07:45] grub works with lvm [07:45] but you need a non-lvm boot partition then :) [07:46] sure i was speaking of *all* on lvm [07:46] ;) === shawarma sighs === shawarma puts a bigger machine on his christmas wishlist [07:49] why wait until christmas? [07:51] JanC: Good point. === johanbr [n=j@JBrannlund.MathStat.Dal.Ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-073-073-096.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === JoseMedina [n=jose@201.240.33.74] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:15] hi averyone [08:16] problems with kacpid process [08:16] ?? [08:16] on mi Server it's eating 90% of CPU [08:18] root@linux:/home/jose# ps aux | grep acpid [08:18] root 37 81.9 0.0 0 0 ? R< 12:37 32:29 [kacpid] [08:19] help me! please! [08:26] maks_: You're right. LVM-only -> lilo === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d429a5.wlks.losch.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === JoseMedina [n=jose@201.240.33.74] has left #ubuntu-kernel [] === macd [n=d@cl-116.atl-01.us.sixxs.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Lure_ [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:03] mjg59: right, I'm speaking of upstream's plans for HDA (not AC'97) [10:04] Ah, ok === ivoks [n=ivoks@39-29.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Sapote [n=guillote@host85.200-117-35.telecom.net.ar] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:14] hi all! [10:14] have a question about limit of processors of support for ubuntu [10:15] how many processor is the limit? 16? 32? 128? 256? [10:15] maxcpus parameter [10:16] Sapote: depends on the kernel you use [10:17] smp [10:17] default smp amd64 [10:18] so -generic kernel for amd64? [10:18] I don't know the exact number, but AFAIK it should be more than enough for any desktop :) [10:19] ;D [10:19] yes.. but i find the magic number [10:20] isn't that in the kernel config files? [10:21] maybe [10:23] grep for CONFIG_NR_CPUS in the kernel config file of your kernel in /boot/ :) [10:24] at least, I think that's the setting you need (I'm no kernel dev) [10:24] Sapote: /boot/config-2.6.20-12-generic:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=8 [10:25] 8 ok [10:25] thanks! [10:25] I don't think many desktops have more :) [10:26] server kernels might have support for more CPUs [10:27] rtg: you have amd64, or it's always the same for -generic ? [10:27] Sapote: debian/config/i386/config.server-bigiron:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=64 [10:27] yeah, server-bigiron is for people with deep pockets :) [10:27] lol! [10:27] JanC: generic is the same for i386 and amd64. [10:27] :D [10:28] maxcups parameter 1-256 is correct? [10:28] rtg: thanks, good to know, wasn't sure about that :) === Lure_ [n=lure@89-212-19-55.dynamic.dsl.t-2.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:28] Here are all of the CPU configs: [10:28] debian/config/i386/config.server:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=8 [10:28] debian/config/i386/config.server-bigiron:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=64 [10:28] debian/config/i386/config.generic:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=8 [10:28] debian/config/ia64/config:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=64 [10:28] debian/config/hppa/config:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32 [10:28] debian/config/amd64/config.server:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=64 [10:29] debian/config/amd64/config.generic:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=8 [10:29] debian/config/sparc/config.sparc64-smp:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=64 [10:29] debian/config/powerpc/config.powerpc-smp:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=4 [10:29] debian/config/powerpc/config.powerpc64-smp:CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32 [10:30] thanks rtg, JanC [10:30] well, except for the i386 UP kernel :) [10:34] JanC: CONFIG_NR_CPUS depends on CONFIG_SMP [10:36] so if CONFIG_SMP is not set, NR_CPU == 1 [10:36] :) === sits [n=sits@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust739.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pkl_ [n=phillip@unaffiliated/pkl/x-764568] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sits [n=sits@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust739.swan.cable.ntl.com] has left #ubuntu-kernel []