[01:41] <superm1> Daviey, ping
[01:45] <defendguin_> mario  zap2 it still isn't responding for me :(
[01:45] <superm1> really?
[01:46] <defendguin_> really
[01:46] <superm1> i wonder whats really going on here then
[01:46] <superm1> when i get home, i'll checkout and see if mine has grabbed data the last day or so
[01:46] <defendguin_> i'd appreciate it
[01:46] <superm1> did you poke around in -users last night?
[01:47] <defendguin_> -users?
[01:47] <superm1> mythtv-users
[01:47] <superm1> the irc channel
[01:47] <defendguin_> yeah i did
[01:47] <superm1> to see if anyone else was encountering issues with zap2it
[01:47] <superm1> and?
[01:47] <defendguin_> no one else seems to be
[01:48] <superm1> you've blown away all zap2it settins?
[01:48] <superm1> and reloaded and such
[01:48] <defendguin_> yup
[01:48] <defendguin_> it's just that one place in the video sources setup right?
[01:48] <superm1> well the place where you put in the usrename password
[01:49] <superm1> you've blown away that page
[01:49] <superm1> and reloaded it
[01:49] <defendguin_> yup
[01:50] <superm1> have you considered possibly backing up your database and reloading it?
[01:51] <defendguin_> i'd blow away the entire box if i thought it would help
[01:51] <superm1> well i dont think that drastic of a change is needed here
[01:51] <superm1> but you can at least narrow down the problem to db corruption
[01:51] <superm1> if freshly doing the db solves it
[02:00] <defendguin_> where do i start off with that?
[02:00] <superm1> well backup the db, remove mythtv-database and mysql-server-5.0.  reinstall both.  run mythtv-setup
[02:00] <superm1> and set things up
[02:00] <superm1> if they work, then something is messed up with your old db
[02:00] <superm1> and you can either drop it and ignore
[02:00] <superm1> or sort it out and find the problem
[02:02] <defendguin_> no need to really back up the db i don't have any recordings i care about
[02:02] <superm1> well thats up to you
[02:02] <superm1> i mean if you dont have anything of value
[02:02] <superm1> then dont worry about it
[02:03] <superm1> sudo apt-get remove --purge mythtv-database mysql-server-5.0
[02:03] <superm1> and then
[02:03] <superm1> sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0 mythtv-database
[02:06] <defendguin_> maybe i have bigger issues
[02:06] <superm1> why?
[02:06] <defendguin_> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m/mythtv/mythtv-database_0.20-svn20070122-0.0ubuntu6_all.deb  Could not resolve 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[02:06] <superm1> sounds like this machine isnt online
[02:06] <defendguin_> i'm sshed into it
[02:07] <superm1> is it set up for static or dhcp?
[02:07] <defendguin_> static
[02:07] <superm1> did you add a default route?
[02:07] <superm1> er gateway
[02:07] <defendguin_> ummm i added a default gateway
[02:07] <superm1> and dns information?
[02:07] <defendguin_> hmmmm
[02:07] <defendguin_> probably not
[02:08] <superm1> /etc/resolv.conf
[02:08] <superm1> nameserver IPADDRESS
[02:08] <superm1> where IPADDRESS is your DNS server
[02:08] <defendguin_> search houston.rr.com
[02:08] <defendguin_> nameserver 24.93.41.125
[02:08] <defendguin_> nameserver 24.93.41.126
[02:09] <superm1> can you ping those servers
[02:09] <defendguin_> thats my old isp service
[02:09] <defendguin_> houstonrr.com
[02:09] <superm1> then those needs to be updated
[02:09] <superm1> that is your issue
[02:09] <defendguin_> :-)
[02:09] <superm1> should have put two and two together when you said that you were putting in a new guide data source
[02:09] <superm1> that you probably had a new ISP too
[02:09] <defendguin_> lol
[02:10] <superm1> Okay i'm going to get home and make some dinner
[02:11] <superm1> good luck getting this back :)
[02:11] <defendguin_> thanks man
[03:07] <defendguin_> superm1: looks like it pulled all the right data but its telling me mythtv is already using all available inputs when i try to watch tv
[03:07] <defendguin_> rebooting didn't seem to fix it
[03:08] <superm1> then you didnt set up your tuner right perhaps
[03:09] <superm1> did you make sure to choose the correct type
[03:09] <defendguin_> i'm thinking its possible the db password got changed when i re-installed
[03:09] <superm1> eg if its a pvr-xxx MPEG2-Encoder
[03:09] <superm1> if you could open the frontend and the backend is running, db info is fine
[03:09] <defendguin_> right i set that part up properly i believe
[03:09] <defendguin_> ok
[03:09] <superm1> check the backend log then
[03:10] <defendguin_> where is that kept?
[03:11] <superm1> /var/log/mythtv
[03:14] <defendguin_> i think i figured it out
[03:14] <superm1> what was it?
[03:14] <defendguin_> i'm dumb
[03:15] <defendguin_> something in the setup i rushed over i think
[03:15] <superm1> ah] 
[03:15] <defendguin_> beautiful
[03:16] <superm1> what did you miss?
[03:17] <defendguin_> the option below video source setup in myth-setup
[03:18] <superm1> ah+
[03:47] <defendguin_> via xvmc or standard xvmc
[03:59] <defendguin_> i picked standard
[04:01] <superm1> well depends on your video card
[04:01] <superm1> and if you can do xvmc in the first place
[04:32] <defendguin_> nvidia
[04:32] <defendguin_> its a pretty good card
[04:36] <defendguin_> superm1: i think i'm all set thanks for the assistance
[05:03] <superm1> Yup defendguin_
[05:03] <superm1> glad you got things going better here
[01:44] <DaveMorris> what timezone is superm1 on?
[01:52] <gardengnome> the wrong one, obviously :)
[01:52] <gardengnome> dunno off-hand, but he's somewhere in the US
[02:36] <a5benwillis> morning?
[02:36] <a5benwillis> superm1: You around?
[02:39] <DaveMorris> a5benwillis: I think tis around 6:30am his time
[04:04] <superm1> morning guys
[04:04] <superm1> i'm in central time
[04:05] <gardengnome> morning superm1
[04:12] <DaveMorris> whats the time now then?
[04:12] <DaveMorris> I checked out knoppmyth, and they don't auto do the mythtv setup
[04:12] <superm1> It'd be 9:12 right now
[04:12] <superm1> Ok, so no detection of *anything* then?
[04:13] <superm1> just asking what remotes you have
[04:13] <superm1> or video cards and such
[04:13] <superm1> and expecting you to make the right choices?
[04:13] <DaveMorris> it auto does the install, so I'm guessing it also grabs the correct frimware
[04:14] <superm1> It didn't ask anything about tv out though?
[04:14] <DaveMorris> not sure if it does the remotes, normal install of X does the video card
[04:15] <DaveMorris> I didn't install it to see if it auto did the mythtv-setup, managed to gleam the info from there manual and screen casts
[04:15] <DaveMorris> I'd assume it dosen't do TV-OUT because thats X
[04:16] <superm1> well interesting
[04:16] <superm1> i wonder if they have a post configuration panel for this sort of stuff?
[04:16] <superm1> or anything like that
[04:16] <superm1> and where did I hear that a lot of this stuff was automated...?
[04:17] <DaveMorris> they do have an auto install option
[04:17] <DaveMorris> but it dosen't touch mythtv-setup
[04:17] <DaveMorris> Do many people run myth with TV-OUT?
[04:18] <superm1> well all the people i've helped set up locally in my towns have
[04:18] <DaveMorris> I have as well
[04:18] <superm1> :)
[04:19] <superm1> could you see what the auto install does then?
[04:19] <DaveMorris> yep
[04:19] <superm1> if we do introduce something that handles anything automatically more so than what they do
[04:19] <superm1> we will be quite set
[04:19] <DaveMorris> there are so many combo's in mythtv-setup :)
[04:20] <superm1> well even to prefill in some data
[04:20] <DaveMorris> We should prob sort out some howto's/screen cast for the different regions
[04:20] <superm1> need to find a good screencasting app then eventually too
[04:20] <DaveMorris> coz the info needed is different in different countries
[04:20] <superm1> thats right
[04:20] <DaveMorris> popey in #ubuntu-uk does alot of screen casts
[04:21] <DaveMorris> I'll check what he uses
[04:27] <DaveMorris> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts
[04:40] <superm1> any recmndations though on an optimal choice?
[04:44] <DaveMorris> jsut follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreencastTeam/RecordingScreencasts
[04:52] <superm1> DaveMorris, i'll be back in ~40 min
[07:56] <rogue780|mythser> I wish there was a good editor like dreamweaver available for linux
[07:56] <gardengnome> what about crossover office?
[07:59] <rogue780|mythser> nope. it'll install dreamweaver...but it's unusable
[07:59] <gardengnome> sad
[08:11] <wil> Hi, I trying to follow a howto in the community docs on installing mythtv but I am stuck at lirc
[08:12] <tgm4883_> what part?
[08:12] <wil> I guess I have built the wrong module, usbmce instead of usbmce2
[08:12] <wil> But it doesn't create a new module like it did for usbmce
[08:12] <wil> If I redo everything for mce2, it will moan about the module not existing
[08:13] <wil> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Feisty
[08:13] <wil> And the module isn't in /lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/misc/
[08:14] <tgm4883_> you tried running it again and selecting usbmce2 and it didn't create the module?
[08:25] <Xenocide> superm1, whats up man
[08:25] <superm1> Hey Xenocide long time no see.
[08:25] <Xenocide> yea
[08:25] <Xenocide> hey i get my hdtv today
[08:25] <superm1> oh nice.
[08:25] <Xenocide> for me to upconvert standard cable
[08:25] <Xenocide> do i need to do anything
[08:25] <superm1> well vga or component or dvi?
[08:25] <Xenocide> dvi
[08:25] <superm1> the nvidia drivers should sort it out for you
[08:25] <Xenocide> automatically eh
[08:25] <superm1> typically
[08:25] <Xenocide> sweet
[08:26] <superm1> but you may need to fus with modelines for overscan and such
[08:26] <Xenocide> really, even with dvi?
[08:26] <Xenocide> hopewfully i won't have to mess with xVmc
[08:26] <superm1> yes, depending on your tv
[08:26] <Xenocide> i had it set up, but i don't like the grayish looking OSD
[08:27] <superm1> depends on how powerfilled your comp cpu is
[08:27] <superm1> whether u will or wont
[08:27] <Xenocide> pentium 530
[08:27] <Xenocide> its plenty powerful, might be nice to get some load off cpu though
[08:27] <Xenocide> will cpu encoding look better or no difference
[08:28] <superm1> for SD stuff its not going to matter really
[08:28] <superm1> its when you get a hd tuner and start going that route
[08:28] <superm1> that you will need to worry mostly
[08:29] <Xenocide> i doubt ill will be getting an hdtuner since i am getting hd cable with a dvr at home
[08:29] <Xenocide> possibly for school when i move back in august
[08:29] <superm1> well you can maybe capture from firewire on that
[08:29] <superm1> at home
[08:29] <superm1> and get all your hd stuff that way
[08:30] <Xenocide> can i still watch tv wile doing that
[08:30] <Xenocide> i am getting a dual tuner box
[08:31] <superm1> There are a  lot of factors that go into whether it will work correctly and which tuner is in use
[08:31] <superm1> it will have to be an experimentation process
[08:31] <Xenocide> k
[09:07] <wil> Hi, me again. But now I'm stuck at configurting the backend
[09:07] <wil> I am following the community doc howto to install mythtv on feisty
[09:07] <wil> And I have just installed the mythtv package
[09:08] <wil> but I guess that the database isn't correctly created since the only table in there is schemalock
[09:08] <Xenocide> i wouldn't look into the database unless there was a problem
[09:08] <Xenocide> whats your next step?
[09:09] <wil> well, I should do the general stuff etc. and defining the tv cards, but it doesn't save anythin g
[09:09] <Xenocide> what do you mean by save?
[09:09] <superm1> well the database permissions are created when the package is installed
[09:09] <wil> and the terminal says this when I just load the config app
[09:09] <superm1> the database itself is made when launching mythtv-setup
[09:10] <Xenocide> if it errors when you run mytht-tv setup and it is blue then you have a database problem
[09:10] <Xenocide> you will see scrolling lines of errors
[09:11] <wil> mythtv-setup isn't blue
[09:12] <wil> but it does generate a lot of errors
[09:12] <superm1> What sorts of errors?
[09:12] <wil> like this one: Argument missing: ERROR: Unable to acquire database upgrade lock
[09:12] <wil> or: Table 'mythconverg.keybindings' doesn't exist
[09:12] <wil> And that for a lot of tables
[09:12] <superm1> Yick.
[09:12] <superm1> So it looks like somehow or another there was corruption in the process of making it
[09:13] <superm1> do you have any other valuable data?
[09:13] <superm1> in mysql
[09:13] <wil> in the database, no
[09:13] <wil> a clean machine this is :)
[09:13] <superm1> okay.  here is easiest solution then
[09:13] <superm1> sudo apt-get remove --purge mythtv mythtv-database mysql-server mysql-server-5.0
[09:13] <superm1> and drop the database when it asks
[09:13] <superm1> followed by sudo apt-get install mythtv
[09:16] <wil> doen and now retry mythtv-setup I guess
[09:17] <superm1> hopefully thats all it was ;)
[09:17] <wil> this looks an awfull lot better :) thanks
[09:24] <a5benwillis> superm1: Hiya
[09:24] <superm1> hey a5benwillis
[09:24] <a5benwillis> anyone know if mythbuntu will eventually work with trunk?
[09:24] <a5benwillis> superm1: you were right, it didnt work :)
[09:24] <superm1> You mean the livedisk working with trunk?
[09:25] <a5benwillis> yes
[09:25] <superm1> Well a custom build can be done for trunk easily once gardengnome finishes up the trunk packaging
[09:25] <gardengnome> heh
[09:26] <gardengnome> need to get some spare time again. at the moment, i'm busy writing some articles for some school magazine
[09:26] <superm1> it will just be a matter of dropping in the repository that is using trunk packaging into the ISO build script and kicking it off for an hr to
[09:28] <superm1> build
[09:32] <a5benwillis> superm1Ah
[09:33] <a5benwillis> I wish I knew it didnt work before I changed to trunk lol
[09:33] <superm1> well you backed your DB up right?  You can always go back
[09:33] <superm1> and restore it
[09:37] <a5benwillis> I did
[09:37] <a5benwillis> I like trunk though, fixed some of my issues
[09:38] <superm1> oh
[09:38] <superm1> well then keep poking gardengnome to get his trunk packages done :)
[09:39] <a5benwillis> Im a patient guy
[09:39] <a5benwillis> just happy to have myth stable finally
[09:42] <superm1> thats great to hear that your dvb-s is working well now
[09:43] <superm1> did you sort out guide data?
[09:44] <gardengnome> superm1: i would have gotten them done by now if i managed to find that mythweather patch earlier :)
[09:44] <superm1> haha
[09:44] <gardengnome> superm1: shouldn't i package mythweather-revamp instead?
[09:44] <superm1> its a pretty straightforward patch when you take my dpatch directly huh? :)
[09:45] <superm1> well thats your call-
[09:45] <gardengnome> i dunno, i don't have it yet. i just know where i'm supposed to be looking now. :)
[09:45] <gardengnome> allright
[09:45] <superm1> personally i think its better to wait till that branch merges to trunk
[09:46] <superm1> but i also have no idea how stable it is
[09:46] <gardengnome> true
[09:47] <gardengnome> i doubt we'll get 0.21 till fall
[09:47] <superm1> well i hope its not like 2 weeks before gutsy release
[09:47] <superm1> like edgy
[09:48] <superm1> made for a packaging mayhem
[09:48] <gardengnome> heh
[09:48] <a5benwillis> superm1: Sorry, sidetracked
[09:48] <a5benwillis> yes, guide all working well with the new patch
[09:49] <superm1> very nice
[09:51] <Xenocide> patch?
[09:53] <superm1> Xenocide, there is a dpatch that i assembled for mythweather based on a patch on trac.
[09:53] <superm1> to make it work again
[09:53] <superm1> its going into gutsy packages
[09:53] <Xenocide> ah k
[09:53] <Xenocide> how the gutsy packages looking
[09:53] <superm1> and should hopefully be backported to feisty
[09:53] <Xenocide> .21 not gonna make it?
[09:53] <superm1> all depends on when 0.21 is released