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PanzerMKZ_yo03:43
PanzerMKZ_so might someone help me with the main diff between server and desktop kernel?04:12
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PumpernickelMulti-tasking latency vs. batch-oriented settings.04:31
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PanzerMKZ_ok04:39
PanzerMKZ_so which is which then04:40
PanzerMKZ_?04:40
PumpernickelThe one for the desktop, where you generally want multi-tasking and visual responsiveness, is the one optimized for latency.04:42
PanzerMKZ_oh ok04:43
PumpernickelThe one for the server, where you generally have 'jobs' that you run in 'batches', is the one optimized for that.04:43
PanzerMKZ_thanks04:43
PanzerMKZ_but still good on smp yes?04:43
PumpernickelThey'll both work on smp systems.04:43
PanzerMKZ_ok04:44
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Paul_UKhey all, has anyone got working ubuntu-server and ltsp?10:20
shawarmaAll our ltsp experts hang out in #edubuntu10:21
Paul_UKthanks10:21
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qiyonghow to know what sasl implementation the postfix is using?10:29
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dsdghalo, i am using mod_auth_mysql and apache 2 and I have seen the following note: AuthMySQLKeepAlive: Note: This parameter currently does not work with Apache 2.x and is ignored. We are aware of the bug. My question is how will i close stale open mysql connections? i am using ubuntu 11:35
dsdgcurrently i am doing a restart of mysql and apache every morning at 5am, and it works but isnt there a better way?11:35
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Stonekeepe1Hi! I'm getting real problems installing server 6.06.1 on an Intel server. Firstly I had the dreaded "mp-bios bug 8254 timer not connected to io-apic" error. I got rid of that by adding "noapic no lapic" to the boot params, however, it's just hanging the same minus the error now. Any ideas?12:49
Stonekeepe1*nolapic   not   no lapic12:49
ivoksmmconf=off12:59
ivoksor...12:59
ivokspci=nommconf12:59
ivoksright, pci=nommconf01:00
Stonekeepe1pci=nommconf?01:06
Stonekeepe1never heard that one01:06
ivokshehe01:08
ivokstry it, without nolapic and noapic01:09
Stonekeepe1tried both01:09
Stonekeepe1nommconf hangs too :(01:09
ivokshm01:09
Stonekeepe1this is insane. I just *cannot* get it to boot with Ubuntu01:09
ivokswhat MB is that?01:09
Stonekeepe1It's an old intel SMP mainboard01:10
ivokschipset?01:10
Stonekeepe1i'm trying to find out how to determin the model01:10
Stonekeepe1i wish i knew. You think trying to boot the desktop version may work, then get chipset from that?01:11
ivoksdid you tri nocpi (this would disable SMP, but worth a try)01:11
ivokss/tri/try01:11
ivoksnoacpi01:11
Stonekeepe1on it's own?01:12
ivoksyes01:12
Stonekeepe1will try now01:12
Stonekeepe1I read that older SMP boards have a nsty bug in them01:12
Stonekeepe1noacpi on it's own doesn't work either01:13
ivokstry disabling ioapic in bios01:14
Stonekeepe1it's not an option in the bios :(01:15
Stonekeepe1recovery mode shoots through!01:15
ivoksphone01:16
Stonekeepe1Hangs on : "Begin: Witing for root file system...."01:16
ivoksthat's ok :)01:19
ivoksbut it booted, right?01:20
ivoksthen, try booting regular kernel, and just remove quiest and splash01:20
ivoksit should stop on the same place as 'rescue' mode01:23
ivoksand that would means that everything is OK with acpi/apic/mmconf, problem is root device :)01:24
ivokss/means/mean01:24
Stonekeepe1will try! :D01:25
ivoksin grub, root points to what device? root=?01:26
Stonekeepe1on the install cd?01:27
ivoksis this install CD or you allready installed?01:27
Stonekeepe1you are entirely right pal! thanks!01:28
Stonekeepe1install cd01:28
ivoksoh... :/01:28
Stonekeepe1i think the raid is broken01:28
ivoksroot on install CD is RAM01:28
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Stonekeepe1yeah, it's the harddisks01:28
Stonekeepe1hey man, thanks for your time01:29
ivoksnp01:29
ivoksi'm not sure problem is with disks01:30
ivoksif installer doesn't boot at all01:30
Stonekeepe1it hangs on waiting for root filesystem01:31
Stonekeepe1...01:31
ivoksright... that's not good01:32
ivoksyou have 6.06.1 server iso?01:32
Stonekeepe1yeah01:32
ivoksand you've burned it on CDROM like an iso, right?01:32
Stonekeepe1yeah, i works for other hardware01:32
ivokshm01:33
ivoksand you have quiet splash in grub, as an options?01:33
ivokshey!01:33
ivoksyou have grub?!01:33
ivoksor is it isolinux?01:34
ivoks(just making sure you aren't booting from disks :)01:34
Stonekeepe1yeah01:36
Stonekeepe1grub01:36
ivoksgrub is not boot loader on install CD01:37
Stonekeepe1no no :) disks are formatted :D01:37
Stonekeepe1um..................01:37
Stonekeepe1o.O01:37
Stonekeepe1hang on, I'm going mad... yeah, it's booting off HD01:37
Stonekeepe1sorry!01:37
ivokswhen you boot, do you get ubuntu logo?01:37
ivoks:)01:37
Stonekeepe1lol01:37
Stonekeepe1I'm going mad01:37
Stonekeepe1yeah, it's installed on HD, reboot then hangs on waiting for root FS01:38
Stonekeepe1so it's the disks right?01:38
ivoksok, then we will fix it01:38
ivokswhat does root= says? (in grub)01:38
Stonekeepe1ok, will reboot. These mainboards take ages to reboot01:39
Stonekeepe1it's /dev/cp/rd00010 or something01:39
ivoksum..? :)01:39
Stonekeepe1thing is, the raid bios magically made a raid 1 from 3 disks o.O 01:39
Stonekeepe13x34 gig disks and it gives 50G raid 101:40
Stonekeepe1sounds dodgy to me01:40
Stonekeepe1(nearly there)01:40
Stonekeepe1here we go:01:40
Stonekeepe1root=/dev/rd/c0d0p101:41
ivoksrd?01:41
Stonekeepe1however, there is a "ro" option o.O01:41
ivokshm...01:41
ivoksthat's ok01:41
Stonekeepe1it's a mylex raid01:41
ivoksdid you install special modules for it?01:42
Stonekeepe1shall i take one disk out, get a standard raid 1, format from bios then reinstall?01:42
Stonekeepe1no01:42
ivoksjust let it boot...01:42
ivokswhen it stops, wait...01:42
ivoksit will eventualy give up and give you a shell01:42
Stonekeepe1yes ok01:42
Stonekeepe1booting now01:42
Stonekeepe1btw, whilst it's booting, I have some other servers with a 3rd party module. How can i insert that at install time on 6.06?01:43
Stonekeepe1in feisty they have the new "3rd party driver" option, buit not 6.0601:43
ivoks:)01:43
ivoksalt+f201:43
Stonekeepe1insmod then?01:44
ivokswelll01:44
ivokscp it to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/01:44
ivoksdepmod01:44
ivoksmodprobe it01:44
ivoksthat way it will end up in initrd01:44
Stonekeepe1alt-f2 at which point?01:44
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Stonekeepe1language select?01:44
ivoksafter it downloads additional commponents from CD01:45
ivokswhen it says that it can't find disks01:45
Stonekeepe1ah ok, then <back>01:45
Stonekeepe1and redo that bit?01:45
ivoksno01:45
ivoksyes :)01:46
ivoksso... yes is my finall answer :)01:46
ivoksdid you change partition table with ubuntu installer while installing on this server?01:46
ivoksif yes, there is some strange thing with mylex01:47
ivoksYou have to reboot after altering the partition table, if you have any partitions on that drive mounted.01:47
ivokshttp://linuxmafia.com/faq/VALinux-kb/hardware-raid-partitioning.html01:47
Stonekeepe1they weren't mounted, unless the installer does?01:48
Stonekeepe1it's booted01:48
ivoksok, so you've got the shell?01:49
ivoksgo in /etc/rd01:49
ivoksand checkout what you have there01:49
Stonekeepe1will do01:50
Stonekeepe1rd?01:50
Stonekeepe1rd.0 ?01:50
Stonekeepe1rd.3?01:50
Stonekeepe1omg01:50
Stonekeepe1there isn't even init.d01:50
Stonekeepe1ah, we're not on the root partition01:50
ivokssorry, by bad01:51
ivoksmy bad01:51
Stonekeepe1ok01:51
ivoks /dev/rd01:51
Stonekeepe1i see the issue01:51
Stonekeepe1yeah, the partition doesn't exist01:51
Stonekeepe1omg /dev/rd doesn't exist!01:51
ivoksbeh...01:51
Stonekeepe1mylex driver not installed?01:52
Stonekeepe1yet it installs...01:52
ivokswhat's the name of that module/driver?01:52
Stonekeepe1not sure.. let me see01:53
ivoksdac96001:54
Stonekeepe1yeah it is01:54
Stonekeepe1accelaraid 35201:55
ivoksi don't know the name of the module01:57
ivoks:/01:57
Stonekeepe1I'm sure DAC960 messages come up01:58
ivoksyeah, i know, but we need to find out name of the driver01:59
ivoksah...02:00
ivoksfound it02:00
Stonekeepe1http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35591202:00
ivokstry modprobe DAC96002:00
Stonekeepe1module not found02:01
ivokshehe nice :)02:01
ivoksgo to /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/block02:01
ivoksis there anything?02:01
ivoksthere should be DAC960.ko02:02
ivoksif not, we can fix this (but that includes reinstall)02:02
Stonekeepe1no02:02
Stonekeepe1there are 2 mods in that dir: 02:02
ivoksor... you can do this...02:02
Stonekeepe1cciss cpqarray02:02
ivoksboot installation 02:02
Stonekeepe1i got the install cd in drive now02:03
ivoksand go with it all the way till partitioning02:03
Stonekeepe1ok02:03
ivokswhen it comes to partitioning - stop02:03
Stonekeepe1ok02:04
Stonekeepe1do you think that 3disk raid 1 is bad?02:04
Stonekeepe1because i may as well sort that out first02:04
ivoksthen you'll have to resintall it :)02:04
ivoksbut, if you want something else, do it02:04
Stonekeepe1i will reinstall02:05
Stonekeepe1ok, what do i do when i get to partitioning?02:06
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ivokscontinue with partitioning :)02:09
ivokssince you are doing reinstall :)02:09
ivoksif i disapear in the meantime, check out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2754170#post275417002:09
Stonekeepe1hay, thanks for your time02:11
Stonekeepe1i'm just ensuring that the raid configuration is totally correct before i continue02:11
Stonekeepe1bug in installer?02:12
ivokswell, it can be called as a bug :)02:12
ivoksone more thing... if you have /boot on separate partition, *mount* it too, before doing chroot02:12
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Stonekeepe1sure02:13
Stonekeepe1thanks man, you're a life saver02:13
ivoksnp02:14
ivokswith next kernel update, you shouldn't expirience any problems, since initrd would include DAC96002:14
Stonekeepe1doesn't updates d/l new initrds?02:15
ivoksno, it generates it02:15
ivokswith update-initrd -u02:15
ivoksthis way every machine can have its own initrd02:16
Stonekeepe1right ok02:16
Stonekeepe1I was just thinking about the other servers i have to do with the custom module02:16
Stonekeepe1i thought kernel upgrades would kill the module because of kernel module magic number02:17
ivoksif new kernel doesn't have module you need, then you'll have to build it for it02:17
Stonekeepe1yeah, on suse it used to do kernel updates like normal package updates02:18
Stonekeepe1really annoying - am glad ubuntu server holds kernel updates back02:19
Stonekeepe1should i report this bug?02:20
ivoksabout dac?02:20
Stonekeepe1yeah02:20
ivokswouldn't hurt, yes02:20
Stonekeepe1https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/3103502:21
Stonekeepe1hey ivoks, seriously, thanks for your time on this02:23
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ivokssure... ok :)02:23
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Stonekeepe1omg02:47
Stonekeepe1i dont have /etc/initramfs-tools02:47
ivoksyou didn't chroot02:47
Stonekeepe1i did!02:48
ivoksoh.02:48
ivoksit's /etc/mkinitramfs on 6.0602:48
Stonekeepe1oh :)02:48
Stonekeepe1few02:48
Stonekeepe1phew02:48
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ivoksany luck? :)03:01
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Stonekeepe1yeah!!!! THANKS!!!!03:24
Stonekeepe1it's doing background initialisation now03:24
Stonekeepe1i never really understood what that was03:24
Stonekeepe1i've got a conclusive howto here now03:25
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ivoksgreat03:45
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ivokshi05:18
ivoksshawarma: need help with ubuntu-server-tasks?05:21
shawarmaivoks: Input is always welcome.05:21
ivoksi would like to work on mail part05:21
ivoksor something like smb+afp+ftp05:23
Panzer_afp?05:25
shawarmaivoks: That would be great.05:26
ivoksPanzer_: yeah, for macs05:27
Panzer_ok so that is the mac file server service then?05:27
ivoksyes05:28
ivoksfor macs < osx05:28
ivoksbut is also great for osx05:28
ivoksbut i doubt netatalk would get accepted in main :)05:30
ivokssince it is a technology that is passing away :/05:31
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shawarmaivoks: I just took over the spec today, I think. Last time I read it was at UDS in Paris, so it's been a while. AFAIR it's just tasks. No configuration or anything like that. 05:33
ivoks:)05:34
shawarmaivoks: I'm somewhat doubtful of the usefulnes, actually, but people seem to like it.05:34
ivoksok05:34
ivoksi'm planing to offer a product, based on ubuntu, light server without fancy stuff05:35
shawarmaIt basically just boils down to a set of packages that someone has said are good to perform certain tasks. In order to actually get them to do said tasks, you have to configure them yourself.05:35
ivoksso, whatever comes out of it, i would be more than happy to bring ti back into ubuntu05:35
Panzer_for me I am new to linux and I picked up ubuntu server first.05:35
shawarmaPanzer_: Yes? Did you find the DNS or LAMP server tasks useful?05:36
ivokswe have dns stuff? :))05:36
shawarmaThose are the two tasks we have now.05:36
shawarmabind9 ftw.05:36
ivoksi didn't install non-dapper server yet :)05:36
shawarmaDapper had the LAMP install option on the boot screnn, right?05:37
ivoksyes05:37
Panzer_well I have not a lamp server up yet05:39
Panzer_mostly it is my dapper file server05:39
Panzer_smb05:39
shawarmaOk.05:40
Panzer_it forces me to use the command line05:40
shawarmaIt does.05:41
ivoksand that's a very good thing05:41
Panzer_oh yea05:41
shawarmaI'm working on a project to make at least file/print services more accessible.05:41
ivoksshawarma: trough another client?05:41
shawarma(Think web interfaces)05:41
Panzer_well for me once someone showed me what was going on it was easy05:41
ivoksit would be great to have a client-server app05:42
shawarmaivoks: Ah, no, I meant configuration of them.05:42
ivoksi see05:42
ivokswell, that's what i'm talking about, client GUI app to conect to server05:42
ivoksjust for configuration05:42
ivoksweb based is also great... i just prefere gui app out of the server :)05:43
shawarmaivoks: Oh, we're not going to be putting x libraries or gtk or anything on servers.05:43
shawarmaivoks: But we want it to be shiny, easy and simple. Hence: web.05:43
ivoksserver:port -> client:app05:44
ivoksso, another ubuntu/windows mashine fires up gui app which configures services on server05:44
shawarmaivoks: That would be an option, too.05:44
ivoksno X stuff on server05:44
shawarmaivoks: The major problem is that we'd have to support all sorts of different clients. Not just Ubuntu ones.05:45
ivoksright05:45
shawarmaivoks: And *everyone* can do web.05:45
ivokspygtk :)05:45
shawarmaivoks: pygtk on windows... /me shudders05:46
ivoks:)05:46
shawarmaivoks: The advantages of going the web way greatly outweighs the downsides.05:46
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ivokswell, that's fine with me :)05:47
ivoksif you need second pair of hands on that project, i'm interested in helping05:48
ivokswhat do you plan to integrate in it?05:49
shawarmaivoks: It's likely going to be based on eBox.05:50
shawarmaivoks: http://www.ebox-platform.com/05:50
ivokstaking a look...05:50
shawarmaIt's... /me shudders... perl.05:50
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ivoksdoh... you can't have everything :)05:51
ivokslots of features...05:53
ivokshm, but i think it could use some UI love05:53
ivoksi like the choosen software05:55
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ph1zzlehey guys, I am trying to find mod_auth_imap or mod_auth_mysql for apache2 on ubuntu feisty server and so far I have not seen it in packages.ubuntu.com or anywhere else I have looked06:04
ivokslibapache2-mod-auth-mysql06:05
shawarmalibapache2-mod-auth-mysql06:05
shawarmaheh..06:05
shawarmaDon't know about imap.06:06
ivoksauth over imap?06:06
ivokssome people have lots of free time :)06:06
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Panzer_what is only 1100 06:21
Panzer_you can't call it a day now06:21
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FlyingSquirrel32When i try to start Sendmail (sudo /etc/init.d/sendmail start), it just hangs. no errors. Where can I find logs on what's going wrong.08:32
FlyingSquirrel32that's a question ^   :)08:35
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leonelFlyingSquirrel32: check the dns config   or your gateway 08:42
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kronushi08:53
kronusi installed ubuntu-server on a box, and it didn't autoconfigure eth008:53
kronuswhen the box starts up, ifconfig just shows lo08:53
kronushow do I get it to do a DHCP request on startup?08:54
mralphabetkronus: look at /etc/network/interfaces08:55
kronusbash sez: not a directory08:55
kronusthat is...because it is a file?08:55
kronusin any case, it's empty08:55
kronusoh wait, found it08:56
kronuswhat should I do here?08:56
mralphabetkronus: does it have anything for eth0?08:58
kronusno08:58
kronusadding 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' shoudl do it?08:59
mralphabetthink so09:02
kronusnope, no interface09:02
mralphabetdmesg | grep eth09:03
kronusshows up09:04
kronusif I do dhclient eth0, it comes up fine09:04
mralphabetthat should show something like09:04
mralphabet[   43.257603]  eth0: RealTek RTL8139 at 0xf8846800, 00:11:2f:08:54:0c, IRQ 2009:04
kronusyep09:04
mralphabet[   43.257606]  eth0:  Identified 8139 chip type 'RTL-8101'09:04
mralphabet[   52.481558]  eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45E109:04
kronusonly 1 line, though09:04
mralphabetwhat kind of card?09:05
kronusis multiline paste fine?09:05
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kronus[   33.345935]  e100: eth0: e100_probe: addr 0x82100000, irq 9, MAC addr 00:90:27:AA:AE:7F09:06
kronus[  247.028228]  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready09:06
kronus[  247.038096]  e100: eth0: e100_watchdog: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex09:06
kronus[  247.058060]  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready09:06
kronus[  257.426224]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present09:06
mralphabethuh09:07
kronuscard is a no-name09:07
kronusit works fine, if i connect a keyboard and run sudo dhclient eth009:07
mralphabetinteresting09:07
kronusi just want it to do that when it starts up09:07
kronussince it's going to be a headless box09:07
mralphabetas a short term fix you could put that in rc.local09:07
kronusthe one in /etc or in /etc/init.d09:08
mralphabetbut that's not the right answer for you, I just don't know the right answer09:08
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kronuswell, thanks anyway09:09
mralphabetetc09:09
kronusi'll try that09:09
mralphabetetc/init.d/rc.local is for things that get restarted (odd services or whatever)09:09
mralphabetI take that back09:10
kronusrc.local gets run at root, right?09:10
kronusas*09:10
kronusseems to have worked09:10
mralphabetetc/init.d/rc.local processes etc/rc.local09:10
mralphabetyes09:10
kronusthanks very much :D09:11
mralphabetagain, not the right answer, you will want to continue looking for the right way to do it09:11
kronusit's probably an /etc/network/interfaces issue09:11
kronusthis file looks a lot more fleshed out than mine : http://david.decotigny.free.fr/libre/ibook2-debian/etc/network/interfaces09:11
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mralphabetheh, a bit09:12
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