[12:23] <ogra> you should see womething like: in.tftpd[2914] : tftp: client does not accept options
[12:23] <ogra> the ubuntu tftp netboot triggers such a message
[12:23] <racter> in syslog?
[12:23] <ogra> yes
[12:23] <racter> i grep'ed everything in /var/log for 'tftp' but nothing
[12:25] <ogra> probably cliebow has an idea, he's more familiar with the different ppc things you need to regard, i only every worked with one single ppc might be you need totally different options for yours
[12:26] <racter> got it - thx ogra
[12:26] <racter> i'll try to catch cliebow
[12:27] <ogra> also habve a look at wiki.ltsp.org for different dhcpd conf settings etc
[12:28] <ogra> it has some docs about ppc ... even these are for ltsp 4.2 much of the server side stuff applies
[12:35] <cliebow_> lynn-:i netboot powerpc
[12:35] <lynn_> we just booted an i386 thin-client successfully and we didn't see any tftp requests anywhere
[12:36] <racter> cliebow: what?
[12:36] <racter> oic you netboot powerpc?
[12:37] <lynn_> cliebow_, do you know anything about "can't read elf"?
[12:38] <lynn_> i mean the "can't read elf" error
[12:38] <lynn_> that we get when we try to netboot a ppc
[12:38] <cliebow_> no...but you should see what nfsroot it is trying to mount\
[12:39] <cliebow_> what ppc client anyway?
[12:39] <racter> it's a blue-ish g4 tower
[12:39] <racter> blue and gray
[12:39] <lynn_> blue-gray & dark grey
[12:41] <cliebow_> it seeems that would be the latest firmware...if you ctrl-optn-o-f you can  go to openfirmwaartre..but that wont give you any logging..you need to watch the servers logs..
[12:41] <cliebow_> or use ewiresshark'
[12:41] <racter> right - we're in openfirmware typing `enet:0` on the client
[12:42] <racter> on the server we can see that it is getting dhcp requests but nothing about tftp
[12:42] <cliebow_> boot enet:192.168.whaatever
[12:42] <racter> we were trying that before - like enet:192.168.0.254
[12:42] <racter> do we need to put a path there too?
[12:42] <cliebow_> racter..sometimes the position of yaboot and yaboot.conf is important
[12:43] <cliebow_> it seems sometimes important for those to be in the root of the tftp chroot..
[12:44] <racter> o ok - which would be /var/lib/tftpboot ?
[12:44] <cliebow_> if you use wireshark..cana you see 606 packets or so as if the kernel is loading?
[12:45] <racter> i'll install it now
[12:45] <cliebow_> like 31 nonsense packets..then dhcp..then the kernel coming down
[12:51] <racter> here's one "read request, file: /vmlinux, Transfer type: octet[Malformed Packet] "
[12:51] <cliebow_> like 31 of them?
[12:51] <racter> just one of those
[12:52] <cliebow_> oohh it ids loading the i386 jkernel
[12:52] <racter> and that's followed by a "file not found" tftp msg
[12:52] <racter> we'll try enet:192.168.0.254,yaboot
[12:52] <cliebow_> why not post your dhcpd.conf so i can see what you are using..perhaps pastebot.ltsp.org....use the dropdown to specify ltsp
[12:53] <cliebow_> even better maybe tyake this over there
[12:53] <racter> http://pastebot.ltsp.org/152
[12:54] <racter> ok - lynn+i are in that channel too
[12:54] <cliebow_> i wonder if your openfirmware is sending a different option 60
[12:56] <cliebow_> with wireshark you should be aable to see if the client is sending AAPLBSDPC as vendor class identifier
[12:57] <cliebow_> this i s an ubuntu server right? and you are looking at /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
[12:57] <lynn_> hey, where in wireshark should we be looking?
[12:57] <lynn_> we never used it before this
[12:57] <cliebow_> should be a ble to Closely examine every packet
[12:58] <lynn_> o thanks
[12:59] <cliebow_> i have a g4 ibook here as a client
[12:59] <lynn_> kernel loaded, "can't claim malloc buffer" error
[12:59] <racter> ok we symlinked /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/powerpc/yaboot to /var/lib/tftpboot/yaboot and then booted the client enet:192.168.0.254,yaboot - now we are getting that malloc error
[01:00] <cliebow_> that is wierd...does wireshark show it is loading /yaboot?
[01:01] <racter> checking
[01:03] <racter> it looks like it is loading /yaboot
[01:03] <racter> and then choking with this malloc error
[01:04] <cliebow_> i have a demo setup here...sony ibook and ibook g4
[01:06] <cliebow_> i am  getting a wireshark outpit of successful boot to send you..and my dhcpd.conf
[01:07] <racter> great
[01:16] <cliebow_> racter:theoretically you can pick up that capture at 169.244.3.137/applenetboot...like 12 meg of it..give it a minute to upload
[01:17] <racter> this is a capture i can load into wireshark?
[01:18] <lynn_> so no clue about the "malloc buffer" error?
[01:19] <lynn_> it looks like it loaded the kernel and then crashed for some reason
[01:19] <cliebow_> never saw that before.
[01:19] <cliebow_> are you looking at the wireshark capture?
[01:19] <lynn_> the machine became unresponsive and i had to reboot
[01:20] <lynn_> jake is
[01:20] <lynn_> i mean racter is
[01:20] <cliebow_> it is up  thereyou shhould bee able to file..open that with wireshark
[01:20] <racter> so i see yours is requesting /ltsp/powerpc/yaboot
[01:21] <racter> we'll try enet:192.168.0.254,ltsp/powerpc/yaboot
[01:22] <cliebow_> perhaps..this an ubuntu,right? and you are using /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf..
[01:23] <racter> ya
[01:24] <lynn_> one machine gives us a malloc error and the other says "unknown or corrupt filesystem"
[01:24] <lynn_> two different errors using the same command
[01:24] <racter> both in yaboot 1.3.13 but on different machines
[01:24] <lynn_> a g3 & a g4
[01:25] <cliebow_> something is really wonky..
[01:25] <cliebow_> wanna post yaboot.conf?
[01:25] <racter> from the server?
[01:25] <racter> ya
[01:26] <racter> http://pastebot.ltsp.org/153
[01:27] <racter> this was generated automatically by ltsp-build-client
[01:30] <cliebow_> can you verify that /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/powerpc/vmlinux is a simlink to
[01:30] <cliebow_> 2.6.20-12
[01:30] <cliebow_> etc etcx etc
[01:31] <racter> vmlinux-2.6.20-15-powerpc ya
[01:38] <cliebow_> i am unsure whether your error involves a corrupt yaboot  or vmlijnux
[01:39] <racter> maybe we should rebuild them?
[01:39] <cliebow_> you can try my yaboot if you like at 169.244.3.137/yaboot.gz 9unzip it)
[01:39] <racter> ok
[01:39] <cliebow_> and 9i think) powerpckernel.feisty.tar.gz
[01:40] <cliebow_> dhcpd.conf is there as well
[01:40] <lynn_> thx
[01:41] <cliebow_> wish i could see just what is happening
[01:41] <racter> that kicked us back out to open firmware
[01:41] <racter> weird!
[01:42] <cliebow_> i am just holding down the n key at boot
[01:42] <racter> ok - we have yaboot on these machines from their current ubuntu installs
[01:45] <felipe__> Hello. Im trying to install School Tool on my system ( I have Ubuntu, not Edubuntu) but it says it depends on python 2.4 and python 2.5 is installed. i manually installed python 2.4 but still theres a problem of dependency on python 2.4
[01:45] <cliebow_> maybe it is getting a "senior moment" cause that machines dhcp discover packet has an option 60 different from AAPLBSDPC
[01:46] <lynn_> cliebow_, do you know what the "enet:0" command does exactly?
[01:47] <lynn_> in yaboot
[01:48] <cliebow_> not for sure...maybe a broadcast?
[01:49] <cliebow_> fwiw my old notes are in  http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/CpuArchitectures
[01:50] <lynn_> ok we'll take a look, thx
[01:50] <cliebow_> not mu ch help i guess
[02:09] <racter> * felipe__ (n=felipe@190.10.206.201) has joined #edubuntu
 Hello. Im trying to install School Tool on my system ( I have Ubuntu, not Edubuntu) but it says it depends on python 2.4 and python 2.5 is installed. i manually installed python 2.4 but still theres a problem of dependency on python 2.4
 maybe it is getting a "senior moment" cause that machines dhcp discover packet has an option 60 different from AAPLBSDPC
 cliebow_, do you know what the "enet:0" command does exactly?
 in yaboot
 not for sure...maybe a broadcast?
 fwiw my old notes are in  http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/CpuArchitectures
 ok we'll take a n
[02:10] <felipe__> racter: ???
[02:15] <LaserJock> ogra: still up?
[03:10] <sbalneav> Evening all
[03:11] <LaserJock> hi
[03:12] <sbalneav> Hey LaserJock!
[03:14] <LaserJock> how's life up North?
[03:22] <sbalneav> Not too bad!
[03:22] <sbalneav> coding LDM2 :)
[03:24] <LaserJock> sweet
[03:24] <LaserJock> I'm finishing up a the lab for today
[03:25] <LaserJock> going to drive home and see about working on some dynamic menus
[03:28] <LaserJock> bbiab
[08:21] <highvoltage> Burgwork: "The wonderful people at O'Reilly and I".. that sounds quite funny :)
[08:40] <LaserJock> morning highvoltage
[08:42] <highvoltage> morning LaserZ
[08:57] <RichEd> hi highvoltage & LaserJock
[08:57] <LaserJock> morning RichEd
[08:59] <highvoltage> morning RichEd
[09:06] <highvoltage> win 12
[09:58] <RichEd> hi pips1 : give me 3 / 4 mins
[10:00] <pips1> perfect for me too
[10:11] <RichEd> pips1-ping
[10:19] <pips1> sorry I need 5 mins
[11:24] <RichEd> hi meduxa
[11:28] <meduxa> hi
[11:28] <RichEd> meduxa: can you see my msg window ?
[11:29] <meduxa> yes
[11:29] <meduxa> although i cannot answer, I think
[11:30] <pips1> meduxa: so you haven't registered your nick ?
[11:30] <meduxa> ups....nop
[11:30] <meduxa> I'll do it tomorrow
[11:30] <meduxa> today I'm full of work
[11:30] <pips1> right
[11:35] <meduxa> abenito@grupocpd.com or direccion@ejerciciosresueltos.com
[11:35] <meduxa> my e-mail
[11:35] <RichEd> RichEd> hi there
 just a note to let you know where we are at this stage ... I'm busy laying out objectives for edubuntu and ubuntu-education for now until March 2008 ... and will be fleshing these out into action plans that support the objectives
 so within the next week, we can look at defining some concrete areas to work together
[11:35] <RichEd> that was it :)
[11:37] <meduxa> ok
[11:41] <pips1> meduxa, fyi, this chat is logged... so if you don't want to increase spam to your inbox you might want to obfuscate email addresses you post in here, fwiw :-)
[11:42] <meduxa> well it is impossible to recieve more spam ... but thanks, it is a good info
[11:42] <pips1> hehe
[11:42] <meduxa> I'll be aware next time
[02:09] <willvdl> ping ogra
[02:16] <pips1> willvdl: ping
[02:16] <pips1> ^^^
[02:18] <willvdl> pips1, pong
[02:52] <pips1> willvdl: just pinging you because ogra joined :-)
[03:03] <willvdl> pips1, thanks :)
[03:36] <RichEd> willvdl: ping
[03:37] <RichEd> willvdl: msg @ canonical
[03:40] <pinch150g> Is there anyone out there that could help me with a boot issue?
[03:41] <pips1> pinch150g: just ask the question :-) if anyone can answer it, they will...
[03:43] <pinch150g> When I boot from the 7.04 disc, I get a message that says the tty could not continue.  It happens with any selection I make from the bootscreen.  When I take off the quiet splash from the boot parameters, I see that it is trying to do something with the floppy
[03:44] <pinch150g> I have turned off the floppy, and that does not help
[03:44] <pinch150g> I have tried to add the Floppy parameter as so FLOPPY=16
[03:44] <pinch150g> It will not boot.  Any ideas?
[03:45] <ogra> pinch150g, the floppy shouldnt have anything to do with the failure
[03:45] <pinch150g> I have also tried putting a good disc in the floppy as I have seen on the ubuntu forums, and nothing works
[03:45] <ogra> did you do y CD selfcheck ?
[03:45] <fsgaston> I was wondering if anybody has LTSP working with Windows authentication and some processing done locally "fat client"
[03:45] <pinch150g> It won't boot into that either
[03:45] <ogra> pinch150g, so you dont get beyond the menua at all ?
[03:45] <pinch150g> I did the MD5 on the image and it checks out.
[03:47] <pinch150g> I get to the dmesg part but it freezes after it tries the floppy several times or it gets stuck.
[03:48] <pinch150g> I am running a dell precision 530 dual Xeon processors.
[03:48] <ogra> well, it surely has nothing to do with your floppy  ... but likely with the hw detection of the controller
[03:48] <pinch150g> Any ideas?
[03:48] <ogra> not really ...
[03:49] <ogra> does it boot in a different machine (if you have one around)
[03:49] <pinch150g> I can go to work and try it, but I used the AMD64 version of UBUNTU 7.04 at work yesterday with great success.  I have not tried this disc up there yet.
[03:50] <pinch150g> Is there a way to find drivers for this machine and load them with boot parameters?
[03:51] <ogra> try #ubuntu-ernel, they might know ;)
[03:51] <ogra> *kernel
[03:51] <pinch150g> thanks, I will
[04:00] <pips1> hi jinty
[04:20] <pinch150g> orga are you still there?
[04:21] <ogra> yep
[04:21] <ogra> even thugh the highlight works better if you flip the two middle letters in my nae ;)
[04:21] <ogra> *name
[04:21] <pinch150g> I can't get anybody to answer on the #ubuntu-kernel
[04:22] <pinch150g> sorry
[04:22] <pinch150g> :)
[04:22] <ogra> many of them are us westcoast ... so be patient, they might just get up
[04:22] <pinch150g> k
[04:23] <pinch150g> Here is my error if it helps.
[04:23] <pinch150g> I get the following error:
[04:23] <pinch150g> end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 (Multiple Times)
[04:23] <pinch150g> then
[04:23] <pinch150g> /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off
[04:23] <pinch150g> Then it hangs after
[04:23] <pinch150g> sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 32x/32x writer cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[04:55] <LaserJock> ogra: good morning oliver :-)
[05:08] <pips1> a good day to you LaserJock and good evening
[05:09] <pips1> cu guys
[05:12] <RichEd> hi sbalneav
[05:12] <RichEd> hello again LaserJock : different day same **** :)
[05:12] <ogra> LaserJock, gcompris done now ...
[05:16] <LaserJock> ogra: good, and tuxpaint is on it's way? :-)
[05:16] <LaserJock> hi RichEd
[05:16] <ogra> yes
[05:17] <LaserJock> ogra: you're awesome dude!
[05:18] <ogra> so lets see if the auto closing from changeogs works now ... tuxpaint uploaded
[05:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 32252 in tuxpaint "Installs two desktop launchers in different sections" [Medium,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/32252
[05:20] <LaserJock> hmm, yeah, I haven't seen that in action yet :-)
[05:20] <ogra> so the mail is processed ...
[05:21] <ogra> no changes on the bug yet
[05:25] <LaserJock> ogra: I'm going to make up a new edubuntu-docs package
[05:25] <ogra> yay
[05:26] <LaserJock> putting in some translations, doing some fixes, and switching the versioning to what's used in ubuntu-docs
[05:27] <LaserJock> ogra: sound ok to you?
[05:27] <LaserJock> perhaps you can get it in before the Freeze Tuesday if I get it to you this weekend?
[05:27] <ogra> indeed
[05:28] <ogra> just do what you like, we're early in the dev cycle
[05:28] <ogra> no need to ask me for approval :)
[05:29] <LaserJock> ogra: well, I'm applying for core-dev today
[05:29] <ogra> yay
[05:29] <LaserJock> hopefully soon I won't have to bug you so much
[05:29] <ogra> Hobbsee made it yesterday ...
[05:29] <LaserJock> i saw
[05:29] <ogra> with sugar on top ...
[05:30] <ogra> she'll even jump on archive admin tasks right away
[05:30] <ogra> very impressive
[06:15] <LaserJock> ogra: nifty, it closed the bug
[06:22] <ogra> yeah
[06:27] <ogra> ok, dia sync request filesd as well ... now only fuse is left on my merges list