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GrahamThere's more12:18
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Grahamthen sudo iwconfig <device> key "s:<key>"12:18
Grahamthen finally sudo dhclient <device>12:18
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titanix88Anyone can tell me h 2 install beryl with dapper without changing main xsession(probably a link pls)?12:19
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intelikeyh2o  ?12:20
ads_any1 familiar with virtualbox?   can i set up a virtual hd on a diff partition or diff hd other than the host os?   i.e im running kubuntu(the host os) i want to be able to run windows xp or vista from a hardrive different to my kubuntu hardrive12:20
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kaneanybody know how to tell kide which screen is "1" and which is "2" in a duel screen setup.12:20
kane?12:20
mas195graham: s: is an unrecognized wireless command12:21
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xeviousI'm having serious problems with nvidia drivers12:22
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titanix88xevious: what prblms?12:22
Grahamsudo iwconfig <device> key "s:<key>"12:23
xeviousspecifically, i have the nvidia-glx-legacy package installed, and 2d works fine but GLX is not loading correctly. The nvidia kernel module loads fine. In Xorg.0.log it says that the GLX module loads correctly. But when I try to run glxgears to test it, I get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". \ Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual12:23
xeviousglxinfo crashes12:23
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xeviouswell. glxinfo fills up my screen with stuff about GLX being missing and then does a core dump12:24
titanix88xevious:tried "sudo nvidia-xconfig"?12:24
eljefekane: not sure but something to do with 'leftof' or 'rightof' i think... but maybe its '1 leftof 2' and i am not solving anything for you ;\12:24
Jucatolegacy will have to use "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" iirc12:24
bomberkane if you go to the kmenu and go to system settings12:25
xeviousmy xorg.conf file is fine12:25
xeviousi'm in X right now. 2d works a-ok12:25
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titanix88xevious:i recommend u try nvidia-xconfig.12:25
bomberthen monitor and display click administrator mode and it should let you change which one is 1'st and 2nd12:25
xevious# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig12:25
xeviousthat's the first line of my xorg.conf12:26
bomberi dont have dualies but it looks like it will work12:26
marko_why they are not many games in ubuntu repos12:26
kanebomber: thanks12:26
marko_like warsaw cube vdrift glest ...12:26
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bombernp12:26
titanix88xevious: what's ur graphics card?12:26
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ads_im running dual nvdia12:27
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intelikeyit appears that according to the "statistics counter" if your nick appears twice in a row. you are talking to your self.    (channel statistics)12:27
intelikeythat obviously doesn't take copy and paste into account,12:27
intelikeyas well as when one sends several lines to one individule without waiting for their reply12:27
xevioustitanix88: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pro]  (rev a4)12:27
bomberheya ds12:27
bomberads that is12:27
drbloodcan u download regular aim12:27
bomberare you using the nvidia drivers?12:27
drbloodor sum how get in an aim chat using kopete12:27
ads_yes12:27
bomberwith the newest kubuntu?12:28
ads_i had to make some changes to enable dual screen effectively12:28
drbloodmy friends tried to invite me to a chat its not working12:28
drbloodim using kubuntu 7.4 feista12:28
xevioustitanix88: using the 7184 driver that's in the repos12:28
ads_sec ill find the link12:28
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xeviousfeisty, all updated12:28
xeviousdid a fresh install a week ago or so12:29
titanix88xevious:maybe u need "nvidia-glx" not "nvidia-glx-legacy"?12:29
intelikeydrblood gaim ?12:29
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mas195graham: network konsole reported that now dhcp network is available and the adpater is now sleeping, but i have a windows laptop in a different room that is connected wirelessly via dhcp12:29
drblood?12:29
xevioustitanix88: the READMEs on nvidia.com indicate 71xx series12:29
bomberi couldnt get the nvidia drivers working.... messed up the install12:29
ph8hey again12:29
drbloodthe aim used on internet12:29
drbloodO_o12:29
ph8in this day and age, do i still need ot setup a chroot to play flash in firefox, or run vmware-server?12:29
intelikeydrblood sudo apt-get install gaim12:30
drbloodkk12:30
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ads_http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#how_to_setup_Dual_Monitors_with_NVidia_in_Feisty_Fawn12:30
ads_tried this^^12:30
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titanix88drblood: kopete should work fine :?12:31
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drbloodit doesnt allow u to go in chats on aim12:32
drbloodu kno a chat with more than 1 person12:32
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igniterI'm looking for a program to limit my download speed on my own computer, what's an easy to use program that can do that? Thank you!12:33
mas195graham: network konsole reported that now dhcp network is not available and the adpater is now sleeping, but i have a windows laptop in a different room that is connected wirelessly via dhcp12:33
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_StefanS_igniter: use kget, and set the download speed limit12:33
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ads_any virtualbox gurus?12:33
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igniterthank you _StefanS_, I'm going to check it12:34
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drbloodhow do u make the snow fall12:34
drbloodusing beryl12:34
drbloodi forgot :/12:34
ads_rain?12:34
drbloodrain or snow12:35
drbloodidc12:35
drbloodsumethin cool12:35
ads_haha  okz well after uve enabled it in    beryl settings manager|extras12:35
RoxyHello I'm having some problems with KNetwork in that one it has a tendency to stall randomly at different spots and two, seems to be incapable of connecting to a WEP protected network anyone have a solution =\ ?12:35
ads_then the shortcut key  is alt f8  i believe    it will tell u the shortcut key under the water effects then shortcuts12:36
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ads_mind u if youre not running a decent card it will freeze up ur system12:36
xeviousso how long does it usually take for a new nvidia driver to make it to the repos?12:36
Emesshi, couldnt get feisty to work on this old box iv got so tried edgy to recieve this error: mount: function not implemented - any ideas?12:36
drbloodim in extras12:36
drbloodi have water effect checked off12:36
xeviousi'd rather use the packages from the repos for easier updating in the future (my mom's computer)12:36
drblooddelay is 13712:37
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drbloodamplitude12:37
ads_xevious strange im running a geforce 5200 fx  and i have no problems with beta drivers12:37
drblood.800012:37
drbloodso wat i do?12:37
Emessfound this 'answer' but i have almsot no idea what it means https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/6658512:37
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ads_shortcut tab12:38
drbloodso how do u use the rain?12:38
ads_drblood: shortcut tab in water effect12:38
ads_look to see what is assigned12:38
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ads_virtualbox   any1???12:39
drbloodits shift+f912:39
ads_ther u go then  hav fun ;)12:39
drbloodis there a way to have rain comming down12:39
drbloodnot ripples12:39
drbloodor have snow :O12:39
ads_no idea sry      virtualbox   any1   pretty pls?12:40
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drbloodtheres a way to make sno12:41
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drbloodsnow*12:41
igniterkget can't do what I need, I'm looking for a program that'll limit the speed of anything I might be downloading, like youtube videos or the loading speed of web pages, any program that can do that?12:41
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ads_ya  wud be nice to hav a way to control all outbound connections vis bandwidth12:42
ads_via*12:42
mas195graham: network konsole reported that now dhcp network is not available and the adpater is now sleeping, but i have a windows laptop in a different room that is connected wirelessly via dhcp12:42
igniteron xp I used a program called netlimiter12:42
notmeis there another client as frostwire but not in java? java takes soo much resources12:43
Arwennotme, err, amule12:43
Arwenor, gnutella I think12:43
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notmeArwen: well but amule is terribly slow12:43
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Arwenwell, those are my suggestions, you're free to use what you want.12:43
ads_Arwen: used virtualbox?12:44
Arwenads_, err, nope12:44
ads_okz np12:44
notmegnutella, mm i'm gona try it, is it a GTK app?12:44
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Arwennotme, yes. Everything is GTK.12:44
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Arwen!gnutella12:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:45
Arwen...12:45
Arwennotme, you could use limewire if you want12:45
Arwenoh wait, that's java too12:46
RoxyDoes anyone know of a replacement for KNetwork?12:46
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notmeArwen: i'm searching a bit, and gnutella is only the protocol, so there's choices, hehe12:47
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notmeArwen: I dont want to use frostwire because it uses 60-70% of one of my cores12:48
ubuntu_Hi. I have create 4 partitie's for 3 linux systems and 1 Windows but how can i install it on SDA3 ?12:48
igniternevermind my question, I love Adept, typed "bandwidth" and there are at least 2 programs that may be able to limit the bandwidth12:48
Jucato!info gtk-gnutella12:48
ubotugtk-gnutella: shares files in a peer to peer network. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2205 kB, installed size 7548 kB12:48
JucatoArwen: ^^^12:49
Arwennotme, you *could* just not warez stuff :-P12:49
ArwenJucato, ok12:49
Jucato!info libgnutella-gift12:49
ubotulibgnutella-gift: giFT plugin for the Gnutella network. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.10.1-1 (feisty), package size 164 kB, installed size 732 kB12:49
mas195anyone else want to take a crack at why i cannot connect wirelessly to my AP when my winblows machine will connect without a problem12:49
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ignitermas195: just a guess, is dhcp enabled on the router if you're using one?12:50
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mas195yes, dhcp works fine and it is wep enabled but kubuntu keeps telling me that the adpater is unable to locate a network and puts the adapter to sleep12:51
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Ace2016hi all12:53
Ace2016anyone here use synaptic to install software?12:53
JucatoAce2016: you can try asking the question directly. someone might know12:54
Jucatoor in the absence of an answer, dare to ask in #ubuntu :)12:54
Ace2016Jucato: i start synaptic usin; kdesu synaptic, since upgrading to kde 3.5.7 my kicker crashes whwnever i install something in synaptic12:55
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JucatoAce2016: kicker crashes, but not Synaptic? hm...12:58
Ace2016Jucato: yup12:58
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Jucatostrange.. :(12:59
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BlueBird22 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent says i dont need anything like a driver or ltmodem. and its says you need to have a symlink created on boot (from /dev/ttyLTM0 to /dev/modem).   if  i follow all that.  and is my modem on ttyLTM0 ? i doubt it01:00
JucatoAce2016: doesn't happen with Adept Manager01:00
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ksnipzwas wondering if someone could me, I've installed all the aac codecs but when I try to run ffmpeg with -acodec aac I get a aac codec not found error, anyone have any ideas on how I could fix this? I've tried recompiling and installing from source with the enable libfaac option but still nothing01:01
Ace2016Jucato: don't like adept, synaptic's layout is nicer01:01
RoxyUmmmm Jucato would you know an alternative progream to KNetwork for managing wireless and ethernet connections >_>01:01
ph8kick it01:01
JucatoAce2016: I'm not asking if you like Adept or not. just asking whether Adept makes kicker crash too :)01:01
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ph8lol sorry - was scrolled up01:01
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JucatoRoxy: hm... nope :(01:02
Ace2016Jucato: oh i'll check01:02
Roxy:<01:02
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mas195igniter: yes, dhcp works fine and it is wep enabled but kubuntu keeps telling me that the adpater is unable to locate a network and puts the adapter to sleep01:02
RoxyKNetwork keeps freezing and can't seem to deal with WEP connections01:02
Ace2016Jucato: how do you start it? kdesu adept doesn't work01:02
BlueBird22 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent says i dont need anything like a driver or ltmodem. and its says you need to have a symlink created on boot (from /dev/ttyLTM0 to /dev/modem).   if  i follow all that.  and is my modem on ttyLTM0 ? i doubt it01:02
JucatoAce2016: kdesu adept_manager01:02
Ace2016-_-01:03
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notmeis VLC gtk?01:03
Jucatonotme: no. wxWidgets01:04
Jucatothey're moving to Qt though01:04
Jucatonotme: but wxWidgets uses GTK"s appearance on Linux01:04
Roxyis it relatively safe to run a fsck on Fiesty?01:04
BlueBird22 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent says i dont need anything like a driver or ltmodem. and its says you need to have a symlink created on boot (from /dev/ttyLTM0 to /dev/modem).   if  i follow all that.  and is my modem on ttyLTM0 ? i doubt it01:04
mas195igniter: interestingly, when i launch dhclient from konsole, it shows that it is trying to connect to a network in the 255.255.255.255 instead of 255.001:04
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notmeJucato: I hope, couse for some reazon the lower bar doesnt behave as expected01:04
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intelikeywhat iz zees "line 81: echo: write error: Interrupted system call"  ?01:06
fabiohello01:06
intelikeyanyone seen that kind of error before ?01:06
compilerwriterWhere does one go to cancel a print job?  I got lucky and the printer was out of paper. :-)01:07
intelikeycompilerwriter cups manager01:07
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compilerwriterintelikey The only time I have seen such a line is when a programmer put the blasted thing in as a debug tool.01:08
BiovoreoO01:08
intelikeycompilerwriter well that's not the case there.   it's a shell script and echo 'blah' should work there.01:09
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compilerwriterSounds like a syntax error occurred around line 81 then, intelikey.01:09
ads_syntax error?! u sjur?01:10
Ace2016test01:10
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intelikeycompilerwriter one might think so... but why has that script worked without error for many months and still does now.    but that one time it errored with that message ?       sorry syntax error doesn't add up.   other thoughts ?01:11
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ads_virtualbox...  possible to add virtual hds on hds other than the host os hd????01:14
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Ace2016Jucato: kicker krashed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!01:15
JucatoAce2016: hm... then seems to be a deeper problem than just synaptic01:15
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mas195%c9 igniter: interestingly, when i launch dhclient from konsole, it shows that it is trying to connect to a network in the 255.255.255.255 instead of 255.001:17
Ace2016Jucato: here is the crash log; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23522/01:17
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Jucatoargh.. I'm no good at debugging :(01:18
ejupinAnyone know how I can configure my mp3 player with Amarok? Thought I had the string set, but it doesnt see it..01:18
Trickserhi, in kmail when i answer a message, I get a mixture of english and german for the templates. For example: "On Freitag 01 Juni 2007, <someone> wrote:"01:19
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TrickserHow can I solve it? in the template stands  for example "On DATE, FROMNAME wrote:"01:19
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TrickserOn \DATE, \FROMNAME wrote:01:20
Tricksersorry, the percentage sign is not shown...01:20
intelikeywhich target lang ?01:21
hyumahello01:21
hyumaI've problem during the boot01:21
hyumaI get this error01:21
hyuma"dma timeout error"01:21
hyumathe boot is very slow01:22
hyumahow can I fix ?01:22
Biovorebuggy hardware?01:22
hyumacan't think so01:22
Trickserintelikey: my current language is german, but i want to have english templates there01:22
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Arwenhyuma, it means Kubuntu fails to activate DMA, so it probably means your hard drive controller is badly supported01:22
Arwenor that your hard drive just sucks01:22
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hyumammh01:23
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hyumaI've 4 HDDs, 2 IDE and 2 on SATA PCI01:23
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supernova_why do i get an error when typing kcontrol in the konsole? (fresh ubuntu install)01:23
Arwenhyuma, sorry to be nitpicky, but SATA is a kind of IDE too01:23
kaneanyone know why X wouldnt be picking the first meta mode to start up with?01:24
intelikeyTrickser ummm   you would make it difficult.   maybe LC_ALL=C %var      not sure that will work there...01:24
Arwenanyway, try booting your live cd and seeing if hard drive access is slow01:24
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hyumaif the boot from cd is good01:24
Trickserintelikey: in the previous version of kde it was possible...01:24
hyumaI must put my hdd on the garbagE?01:24
Trickserintelikey: now i updated to feisty, i think the problem is with the new version of kde01:25
supernova_can someone type kcontrol in the console and se if a error message accurs?01:25
Trickserintelikey: previously one could select the language01:25
Arwenhyuma, possibly. This might be a good time to swap out your PATA drives for SATA ones.01:25
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hyumathanks arwen01:25
Trickserintelikey: in the kmail configuration menu01:26
intelikeyTrickser may still be a way.   if you can catch Jucato or fdoving  on that,  i've not seen the feisty release: so i'm in over my head there.01:26
Arwenhyuma, sorry I couldn't fix your problem :-(01:26
hyumadon't worry01:26
hyumathis linux hdd is very old01:26
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hyuma20GB01:27
hyumahow can I show you info about that HDD?01:27
galaxygazerI cant get my sound card working, its an hda-intel.. yes I know, I've looked at the help forum.. Someone should get ALSA config working for kubuntu that would sort it out01:27
compilerwriterWell crap it seems that the job is out of Cups and already to the printer is there a way to stop it now?01:27
Biovorehdparm /dev/hda?01:27
intelikeycompilerwriter reset the printer ?01:27
supernova_can someone please type kcontrol in the console and se if a error message accurs?01:28
Jucatoer sorry Trickser, no idea on that01:28
Jucatosupernova_: what error message?01:28
Biovoresupernova_: works here01:28
TrickserJucato: ok, thanks01:28
defconI need some help with chown, for some reason when I chown -R defcon:defcon .* while im in /home/defcon it changes all of owner ship in /home/* to defcon01:28
hyumathanks Biovore01:28
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Jucatodefcon: no. there should be no . before the * afaik01:29
hyumaI notice that DMA of /dev/hda is off01:29
intelikeydefcon yes  because   ~/.*   includes   ~/../01:29
hyumaand in W$ too, DMA not working....01:29
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hyumaI can connect the problem on both OS01:29
defconintelikey, so what is the right syntax01:29
Jucatointelikey: it will only change the ownership of hidden files01:30
defcondoes chown change the hidden fines? with *?01:30
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defconno it is recursing to /home/* while im in /home/defcon/01:30
hyuma[17179607.380000]  hda: DMA timeout error01:30
hyuma[17179607.388000]  hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }01:30
defconi screwed all my permissions up on my system01:31
intelikeydefcon sudo chown `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` ~/.??*01:31
Biovore^ looks like a dead or dieing disk01:31
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hyumaBiovore: can I see infos about HDD? manufacter, datas, etc..01:31
defconintelikey, thankyou, how do I do it for another user01:31
Ace2016hi all01:31
defconaccept myself01:31
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Ace2016how do you find the install date of kubuntu? i want to know how old the install is01:32
Ace2016maybe time to reinstall01:32
intelikeydefcon sudo chown <theirname>:<thiergroup> ~/.??*01:32
galaxygazerAce just upgrade it with package manager its easier than whipein it out01:32
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intelikeyand ~ should be <their home>01:32
defconthankyou intelikey01:33
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intelikeydefcon note i didn't make those recursive.  but you can.01:33
Ace2016galaxygazer: well its not that i need to reinstall windows and also get rid of quite a lot of messed up configs01:34
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defconalso, I screwed up my permissions big time, how do I set all my permissions so kde/gnome runs without giving me permission errors01:34
defconand other programs are giving me errors01:34
defconlike firefox and things that use .* dir's01:34
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terrestrehi everyone01:35
galaxygazero ic01:35
Trickserintelikey: i found the solution, you have to use other commands, like DATEEN, which is the data in C locale01:35
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hyumaterrestre hi, you're from italy?01:35
intelikeydefcon chmod -R 750 ~/ ;find ~/ -type f -exec chmod 640 '{}' \;01:36
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defconintelikey, what does that do exactly01:36
defconlol01:36
terrestrehyuma: no, im from latinamerican :)01:36
hyumaok01:36
intelikeydefcon that won't include executables.  if you have things that need executed.  you'll need to set them by hand.01:37
defconok01:37
defconthankyou01:37
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intelikeyTrickser thank you;  noted.01:37
defconwhere can I learn these advanced commands01:37
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intelikeythese are not "advanced" commands  these are the linux basics.     ls /bin    and man <what ever you see there that you want to know about>01:38
TevlinAny program for Linux and Windows that would allow me to enter a command to launch a program on another computer?01:38
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TevlinI have Kubuntu on a virtual machine in Windows, and it would be nice to be able to click a KDE shortcut and have a Windows program open on the host01:39
intelikeytelnet, ssh, freenx, and others...01:39
TevlinHow would I do that for a single command though?01:39
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intelikey"to click a KDE shortcut and have a Windows program open"    hehhe.   never mind.01:40
Tevlinlol01:40
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TevlinThought I'd at least ask.01:40
intelikeywine01:41
TevlinDidn't expect an easy answer01:41
wtfanyone know where kde keeps its resolution related settings?01:41
Tevlinheh, true01:41
TevlinThough this would be for games01:41
ph8?beryl01:41
ph8!beryl01:41
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects01:41
intelikeyTevlin however.   ssh and expect could be used to make small scripts that would do what you asked about.01:41
TevlinOh?01:42
TevlinSo I could do it in a shortcut?01:42
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intelikeyyes but it's not "easy" to set it up01:43
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TevlinOh that doesn't bother me01:43
TevlinMight actually like it if it's hard01:43
TevlinMore learning experience01:43
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Tevlin:P01:43
mas195any suggestions as to why my knetwork manager does not "see" my wireless network or AP?  the ap works fine for winblows in another room...01:44
intelikeythen setup ssh so you can do what you want to acomplish manually   then use expect to answer the prompts to automate the process.01:44
TevlinAlright, I'll read up on expect, thank you01:44
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intelikeynp.01:44
intelikeyTevlin one other thing.   when you install expect  there are some example scripts you can learn from    dpkg -L expect      for a list of what all it installs01:45
TevlinWould I need cygwin for this? The commands would be executed on Windows from the guest Linux01:46
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intelikeyno you don't need anything special on the windows end   just the normall putty or what ever you connect ssh to01:47
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TevlinUnderstandable01:47
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TevlinI'm not much of a fan if it personally, but it has to be my host because of games and because my laptop won't run Linux01:48
hamalawyhello everyone.. i just installed kubuntu a few hours, kubuntu ruuuuuuuuuullllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz01:48
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TevlinThe idea of this would be to minimize Windows usage even further01:48
intelikey"because my laptop won't run Linux"    why not ?01:48
supernova_how do i update to the latest kde version?01:48
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TevlinWell, it's true that if I fought with it, I might be able to get it working on the laptop01:49
hamalawyno more crapy windows xp, vista or whatever bill gate$  is preparing for the next 1000000000 years01:49
TevlinHehe01:49
galaxygazerhamalawy: yeah its cool aint it01:49
hamalawyit's hyper mega ultra awsome01:50
TevlinBut I actually like running it on a virtual machine01:50
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TevlinBalmer does now, doesn't he?01:50
TevlinThe chair throwing guy01:50
galaxygazerI cant get my sound card working on it tho.. but hopefully they'll come up with a fix.. just have to go without movies for a while01:50
federico_Ciao01:50
federico_Somobody speaks italian?01:51
intelikey!it01:51
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!01:51
crimsungalaxygazer: what's the issue with your sound card?01:51
intelikeythe bot seems to...01:51
federico_Scusate, grazie e ciao01:51
galaxygazerneit comrade we only speek russian in here! :))01:51
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intelikeyT() { Q() { T } ; Q } ;T01:56
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galaxygazer? netsplit01:57
Jucatovoid *intelikey = NULL;01:57
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crimsun19:51 < crimsun> galaxygazer: what's the issue with your sound card?01:58
crimsungalaxygazer: I'm awaiting your answer.01:58
galaxygazercrimsun: its an hda-intel card.. ive looked at the help forums but there solutions havent worked for me so far01:59
galaxygazerbut im hopeful I can get it working, if not i'll just have to wait till they figure out a fix02:00
crimsungalaxygazer: I need some more information than what you've provided.  Please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.02:00
galaxygazerit worked fine on slackware using alsa conf02:00
galaxygazerok02:00
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galaxygazerthat script seems a bit long winded why dont I just use terminal and type lspci02:01
galaxygazer?02:01
galaxygazer00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)02:01
intelikeyooops.  don't do that "T() { Q() { T;  }; Q;  } ;T"   it's ugly.02:02
mas195can someone give me the konsole command to terminate the database access for adept manager?02:03
crimsungalaxygazer: it's longwinded purposefully.02:03
galaxygazerok02:03
crimsungalaxygazer: we wrote it to pull _all_ the information that we need to debug.02:03
galaxygazerill get it and run it02:03
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crimsuni.e., the line from lspci is insufficient.02:04
galaxygazercrimsun who do I submit the output too?02:04
crimsungalaxygazer: you're supposed to download the script and run it.02:05
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crimsunit will post all the information to http://pastebin.ca and give you a URL.  Then you'll tell me the URL.02:05
galaxygazerok02:05
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galaxygazergreat it didnt upload it02:07
crimsunrun it again02:07
galaxygazerit says02:07
galaxygazerYour ALSA information is located at02:07
galaxygazerPlease inform the person helping you.02:07
galaxygazerno URL .. :(02:08
crimsungalaxygazer: execute it with --debug02:09
crimsunbash ./alsa-info.sh --debug02:10
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crimsungalaxygazer: then pastebin the contents of /tmp/alsa-info.txt somewhere02:10
galaxygazerk02:11
intelikeycrimsun confirmed; either pastebin.ca is not working properly or the script is broken.02:11
crimsunintelikey: pastebin.ca has blocked uploads from the script due to its usage02:12
crimsunabout a thousand people have used it02:12
greg_gCould someone please take a look at this post, I think the solution is probably easy and I did most of the work already, just need the finishing touches.  Thanks.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=46021002:12
crimsunit's being flagged as spam02:12
ph8does anyone know how to add start commands to my session in kde?02:12
galaxygazernope im still .. bash: ./alsa-info.sh: cannot execute binary file02:12
intelikeyi see.  ok.02:12
crimsungalaxygazer: did you save it as a text file?02:12
galaxygazeryes want me to email it over?02:13
crimsungalaxygazer: no, use another pastebin, like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:13
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galaxygazerk02:13
crimsungalaxygazer: and I need the txt file, not the shell script02:13
intelikeyoh nice.  now anyone that tries to use that script, their ip is flaged as spam....02:14
intelikeycan't even browse pastebin.ca02:14
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crimsunthe next time you go to http://pastebin.ca, you should be redirected to a web page that allows you to unmark yourself02:15
galaxygazernow it wont even re-run the script.. never mind, it was a nice offer to help, but i'll get it working02:15
crimsungalaxygazer: you don't need to rerun the script.  /tmp/alsa-info.txt should exist.02:15
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crimsungalaxygazer: I have vested interest in making it work; I'm an upstream dev for it.02:15
crimsunit->sound.02:15
mas195can someone give me the konsole command to terminate the database access for adept manager?02:16
BiovoreIf 1000/4 = 400 then computer nerd you be..02:16
intelikeycrimsun yeah it says name removed but it obviously didn't work.  still blocked.02:16
intelikeywait that may have been a cache problem.02:16
galaxygazerunfortunatly I can see no file02:17
intelikeyok it was reading the cached page.  my bad.02:17
galaxygazerit just errored up and now it wont reload02:17
galaxygazerALSAconf would get it working if there was an ALSACONF on kubuntu..02:18
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galaxygazerbut under man -k alsa there is no alsaconf02:18
happytigergalaxygazer: use asoundconf02:19
crimsungalaxygazer: alsaconf doesn't work in many situations, plus it uses insecure file handling, so we stopped shipping it.02:19
crimsungalaxygazer: anyhow, redownload the script from the web site I gave you earlier, then run it with --debug02:19
crimsungalaxygazer: then paste /tmp/alsa-info.txt somewhere, and tell me the url02:19
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galaxygazerk I got the txt uploading it now02:22
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galaxygazerheres the like crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23529/02:23
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crimsungalaxygazer: thanks, looking now02:25
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galaxygazerlet me know if you can suggest a fix, im stumped ;)02:25
galaxygazerim a newbie, not very linux wise yet, but im not doing too baddly considering ive only been using it for 3 weeks02:26
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crimsunoh, you got bitten by the codec mask issue02:27
galaxygazeras you can see from my text output ive mastered using cat lol02:27
galaxygazerwhat mask should I set?02:27
crimsunok, first we need to unload all sound modules.02:27
galaxygazerI can do that with the rescue kernel cant I?02:27
crimsunNo need to reboot.  Use these commands (copy & paste): kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*);sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}')02:28
galaxygazeror should I use your script02:28
galaxygazerk02:28
galaxygazerlsof: status error on /dev/dsp*: No such file or directory02:29
galaxygazerlsof: status error on /dev/audio*: No such file or directory02:29
galaxygazerthats the only output02:29
crimsungood02:29
crimsunnow: sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec02:29
intelikeygalaxygazer normal.  it worked02:29
galaxygazerdone it02:30
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crimsungood.  Now: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=102:30
galaxygazerdone02:30
galaxygazeris that it? is it working??? erm is there anything I need to add to modprobe.d/alsa-conf??02:31
hendausanyone friends with gnokii? thanx02:32
terrestreoops, i just del my root account,02:32
galaxygazeryour a star for helping me out, its not working yet tho02:32
intelikeyhendaus not me.  we aren't even on speeking terms.02:32
intelikeyterrestre you did what ?02:33
crimsungalaxygazer: are you testing with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' ?02:33
galaxygazeryeap02:33
crimsungalaxygazer: ok, now repeat the above unload and reload steps, except this time use probe_mask=302:33
galaxygazerk02:34
intelikeyterrestre can you explain ?02:34
galaxygazerFATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)02:35
crimsungalaxygazer: dmesg|tail -1002:35
terrestreyeah i was probe some comand, adduser, etc... and then i type sudo deluser root, and no more sudo, no more nothing, maybe i have to reinstall. dont do that02:35
crimsunuse a pastebin02:35
terrestreand sorry for my english02:35
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igniterbye all and thanks!02:37
galaxygazerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23531/ <~ crimsun02:37
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crimsungalaxygazer: which commands did you just use?02:37
intelikeyterrestre lol.  ok.    reboot the live CD    and mount the root file system of the installed ubuntu    then move the file     mounted/etc/passwd~    to  mounted/etc/passwd      you might want to copy  mounted/etc/passwd  first to some place safe on the hd.02:37
galaxygazerdmesg|tail -1002:37
intelikeyterrestre that "backup" copy is there for that very reason.02:38
galaxygazerand the kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*);sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') followed with the sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=02:38
galaxygazerI put probe_mask=302:38
crimsungalaxygazer: ok, now repeat with probe_mask=402:39
galaxygazerk02:39
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galaxygazernah same error02:40
flakeI'm playing with my keyboard shortcuts, where do I look to specify 'pop-up' Panel 2 which is normally auto-hidden ?02:40
galaxygazerFATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)02:40
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terrestrethanks intelikey, jajaja its was funny, i miss a warning saying "dont do that"02:41
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crimsungalaxygazer: and probe_mask=2 ?02:42
flakein feisty is it still not safe to write to ntfs drives?02:42
galaxygazertrying02:42
flakei want to set up a file server, and at the moment the drives are write protected02:42
galaxygazernope same fatal error02:42
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cntbmy  gparted  liveCD is no good for huge disks02:43
cntbwhat can be done to resize?02:44
galaxygazershould I keep trying probe_mask upto 9 to find the one that works? if there is one?02:44
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cntbmy  gparted  liveCD is no good for huge disks02:44
crimsungalaxygazer: the only valid values are 0-302:45
crimsun-1 and 4 are the boundary cases02:45
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galaxygazer:( looks like im shagged then..02:46
crimsunwell, does omitting probe_mask completely work?02:48
crimsunin this context, "work" means "allow the module to load"02:48
galaxygazerI tried something on one of the help forums, would the fact ive got this entry in the alsa-base be the cause of this? options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto02:48
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crimsunoh god02:48
crimsunyou didn't tell me you had a modprobe entry02:49
galaxygazerI take that as a yes02:49
galaxygazerI'll remove it02:49
galaxygazerk its gone does that mean start from step one and retry it all over again after a reboot??02:50
crimsunno need to reboot02:50
galaxygazerk02:50
crimsunyou just need to start with probe_mask=0 and go through 3.02:50
galaxygazerk02:50
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supernova_can someone tell me why you have to run apt-get clean every tme? why can you install the clean feat onec?02:52
crimsunyou don't need to use the clean target02:53
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supernova_how do you mean (im a linux noob)?02:53
kaneits true, why would you?02:53
galaxygazernone of them work02:53
crimsunit's only necessary if you want to purge your apt cache, which really is only necessary if you either don't like caching downloaded debs or just don't have enough HD space in /var02:53
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drbloodim a linux uber noob :O02:53
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supernova_im low on diskspace so..02:54
supernova_but since im new i dont understand.... apg-get is a feat that downloads the software?02:54
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cntbwhat can be done to resize?02:54
crimsungalaxygazer: when you say "none of them work", do you mean you get the modprobe error, or do you mean sound is inaudible?  Please be precise.02:54
kanesupernova_: apt-get downloads and installs programs for you.02:55
galaxygazermodprobe error sorry crimsun02:55
cntbold gparted is useless for bigger disks02:55
kaneso you you wanted say, the program named firefox.02:55
crimsungalaxygazer: ok, so omitting probe_mask completely still gives you an modprobe error?02:55
kaneapt-get install firefox would download and install it.02:55
supernova_kane: so why do i have to type apt-get clean every time?02:55
galaxygazerhavent tried ill do that02:55
kaneyou dont.02:55
supernova_why not just clean?02:55
intelikeysupernova_ man apt-get02:55
supernova_when i type clean it says i dont have it02:56
kanesupernova_: because the command isnt clean02:56
galaxygazerwithout the probe_mask no error02:56
kaneits apt-get clean02:56
galaxygazercrimsun02:56
kaneapt-get is the application the word "clean" is an option of it.02:56
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bassgoonis there anyway I can use a .bin?02:56
supernova_kane: but i though adding apt-get before downloaded and installd the feat?02:56
intelikeybassgoon sh file.bin02:57
supernova_oh so i dont have to be connecred to the internet to use apt-get clean?02:57
bassgoonintelikey, will that just run it?02:57
bassgoonI'm a bit of a noob sorry02:57
kaneif by "feat" you mean application yes it does, if you use the "install" option for it.  apt-get install <whatever>02:57
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intelikeybassgoon should02:57
kanesupernova_: thats correct.02:57
bassgoonk02:57
crimsungalaxygazer: very interesting.02:57
crimsungalaxygazer: can you stick around for ~70 minutes?02:57
galaxygazerits this cheapo packard bloody bell, thats what I get for buying a cheap lappy02:58
galaxygazersure02:58
crimsunI think I can fix it, but I'll need to compile some modules.02:58
intelikeykane 'feat' function/process02:58
supernova_kane: sorry but i just typed "sudo apt-get clean" does this mean that i havent installed the feauture?02:58
galaxygazerk,thanks mate your a star02:58
intelikeygalaxygazer and your a planet   :)02:59
kanesupernova_: all apt-get clean does is empty out the local cache of stored application packages, those packages it gets from the internet it stores.  apt-get clean removes those stored packeges03:00
dregorthsupernova_: the "clean" feature is just an option you can use with apt-get. "sudo apt-get clean" doesn't install anything03:00
supernova_sorry im im slow but i installed linux today...03:00
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PeterJBhi03:00
dregorthhi PeterJB03:00
supernova_dregorth: kanei understand that but then it means that i have to be connected vereytime i use apt-get clean since it has never been installed?03:01
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dregorthmmm not sure but wouldn't think you'd need to be connected. is that correct, kane?03:01
kanesupernova_: no, apt-get clean only removes files that are already locan on your computer.03:01
dregorthrgr03:01
kaneer local not locan.03:01
galaxygazerwhite, sorry I cant PM I aint registerd yet :(03:02
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supernova_i understand that but what i mean is that if the clean feature istnt installed on my computer it has to be downloaded every time?03:02
supernova_12th hour in front of the computer now..03:02
kanesupernova_: the clean feature is part of apt-get03:03
dregorthit's included in apt-get03:03
dregorth:)03:03
kaneit cant be "not there" if apt-get is present.03:03
supernova_okey so its allready on my computer (from the moment i installed kubuntu?03:03
kaneyes.03:03
supernova_now i understand..03:03
dregorthglad to hear it03:03
supernova_=)03:03
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intelikeyman apt-get03:04
supernova_hard to move from win to linux :p03:04
intelikeyoh and    man man03:04
kanesupernova_: you think thats hard? try moving from linux to win.03:04
intelikeyman intro03:04
supernova_btw how do you get a console that displays everything that goes on (good when you want to learn)03:04
supernova_haha03:04
intelikeytop03:04
dregorthsupernova_: ya i know what ya mean :P03:05
supernova_im used to the manual cleaning in win..03:05
supernova_dregorth: how do you do?03:05
dregorthya fun stuff [/sarcasm] 03:05
dregorthsupernova_: not bad. u?03:05
kanesupernova_: in my opinion, the application installation/uninstallition in linux is years ahead of windows.03:05
supernova_heheh03:05
dregorthkane: definitely a lot better controlled IMO03:06
kanesupernova_: i can of course name some place where windows does much better03:06
supernova_dregorth: i mean how do you do to get that console?03:06
kanebut i always felt like that was a big strong poing in linux.03:06
dregorthsupernova_: oh you said "how do you do" lol without clarifying03:06
supernova_if linux had support for direcx win would be obsolete03:06
supernova_=)03:06
dregorthsupernova_: ummm not sure i understand you. you want a real-time action logger type utility or something?03:06
intelikeyyou mean it isn't already ?03:06
kanewe have opengl.03:06
supernova_reviewing hardware on linux is hard :p03:06
PeterJBmaybe you should ask ms to port it03:07
intelikeysupernova_ why so ?     lshw | less03:07
dregorthbrb...03:07
supernova_PeterJB: or release it as open source =)03:07
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supernova_intelikey: ?03:07
PeterJBit could happen - thinking post revelation03:07
supernova_back to the console.. how do i get it to display all activity?03:08
intelikeytop03:08
intelikeypstree03:08
intelikeyps aux03:08
supernova_hum.... doesnt say me to much03:08
supernova_i have opened the console from the k-menu.... then?03:09
kanesupernova_: what do you mean by "all activity"?03:09
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intelikeygalaxygazer gooday mate03:10
mas195_%c903:10
supernova_kane: i dont know.... ive just heard that you can have a console that shows all the activity. though it wold be a good thing when learing linux03:10
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mas195_can someone help me solve a wireless problem?03:10
kanewell, do you mean all running applications?03:10
PeterJBmas195_: desribe problem03:10
supernova_yes..03:10
kanelike intelikey said "ps aux"03:11
kanein the command line will do it.03:11
kaneor "top"03:11
supernova_do i type that in the console?03:11
kaneyes.03:11
kaneor03:11
kanepress ctrl+esc03:11
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mas195_i have an 802.11g access point / router, dsl, dhcp, and my windows machines can connect.  the adapter is recognized but cannot connect to anything. i have tried to manually configure the ip and other settings without success...03:11
kaneand you will get a windows(ish) style process monitor03:12
supernova_kane: i see03:12
intelikeyhardly a console but same idea kane03:12
hendauspelo what is remote_filename and local_filename03:12
kaneintelikey: indeed, but i odnt want supernova_ to get the impression everything must be done on the CLI03:12
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supernova_but can i get a console to tell med things the "consoel way" so to say? i mean when i use a gui based thing it translates it into console..?03:13
hendausHELPERS!!  what is remote_filename and local_filename?03:13
kaneps aux is about as console was as you can get03:13
supernova_do you understand (my explination suxx)03:13
intelikeykane yeah.  just that his Q was "console that..."    only reason i mentioned it.03:13
kaneagreed03:13
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kanei think learning the console is great, the power of the cli is another big advantage over windows.03:14
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supernova_secondly can o lock file-icons so i cant move them around by accident?03:14
supernova_like you can with the icons on the desktop?03:14
kanesupernova_: right click on the diesktop03:14
kanego to icons03:14
supernova_that works but with other files in konqueror03:14
supernova_like my harddrive...03:15
intelikeykonqueror is a file manager.    it's supposed to be able to move things.03:15
supernova_where i keep pictures and so on03:15
dregorthnice. i never had a need for that feature so i just learned something new :D03:15
supernova_intelikey: i mealn like windows "autoarrange"03:16
supernova_mean03:16
mas195_PeterJB: any suggestions03:16
intelikeykonqueror's menu view sort by       or some such.03:16
supernova_third then... when i type kcontrol in the console i get an error about some device (169) that cant be opened why?03:16
PeterJBwhats the name/make of your card03:17
intelikeysupernova_ possably wacom device ?03:17
mas195_well, i would tell you except all of my apps have stopped responding... cannot launch konsole or systems.....03:17
mas195_PeterJB: i do know that it is a broadcom adapter03:18
supernova_i have no idea... saw that peobple had the same problem on the forum when opening other apps by console03:18
PeterJBin that case follow instructions here03:18
supernova_kcontrol launches but i want to know why i get an error03:18
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intelikey!wacom03:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:18
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intelikeystupid bot.03:19
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KevinAlaskaO.O03:19
dregorthweird. i don't get that error (thing is, i usually DO!)03:19
KevinAlaskaJucato... that yakuake is pretty cool.  thank you for the tip. :)03:19
mas195_PeterJB: was there a link that I am supposed to follow cause it didn't show up03:19
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supernova_can i get the console to show which apps who connects to the internet and where?03:19
PeterJBsorry i haven't typed the link yet03:20
PeterJBi'mjust finding it03:20
mas195_my bad03:20
mas195_thanks03:20
jordo23_If I am running Kubuntu and want to keep it that way, but want to install Gnome as the secondary WM,  which package do I ask for.  (The reason I ask is that I don't want to install Gnome's login manager or other metapackages that will switch me over to "Ubuntu" technically....)03:20
david_howyd partners03:20
intelikeysupernova_ packet sniffing03:20
kanesupernova_: which apps are currently using the internet?03:20
PeterJBhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear03:20
david_is there a way to kill all things that would be using apt?03:20
supernova_yes03:20
david_i just booted up and its saying i cant use install programs because somethigns using it03:21
PeterJBuse adept instead of synaptic and kate instead of gedit03:21
supernova_like basic firewalls in win dos03:21
supernova_does03:21
drblooddragn u afk?03:21
david_is there a way to automatically close all packaging systems?03:21
KevinAlaskadavid_ I was given this to fix that problem.. worked for me ---> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a03:21
intelikey!adeptcrashfix | david_03:22
ubotudavid_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:22
dregorthgood bot03:22
PeterJBgo to ksysguard and search for apt or adept if the advice from ubotu or Kevin doesn't help03:22
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UFFFFFFdoes someone know where to download the toshiba e-studio45's driver03:22
KevinAlaskayeah.. that one..  :-d03:22
hendaushelpers, where can i see my cellphone mounted? where can i see c: d: g: f:03:22
intelikeyecho "c: d: g: f:"03:23
intelikeyand you'll see     c: d: g: f:03:23
supernova_kane: oh i had a huge problem earlier today.. i couldnt install the ati drivers from their homepage (a .run file)... i got a syntax error bad substitutan or something03:23
intelikey:)03:23
PeterJBnext to the k-menu there is system menu03:23
PeterJBgo to media03:23
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supernova_any ideas on how to solve that?03:24
PeterJBwill list all drives03:24
kaneah well i dont use ati.03:24
kanesorry.03:24
supernova_:/03:24
intelikey!ntfs | hendaus03:24
ubotuhendaus: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:24
kaneif no one knows here try #ati or #ubuntu03:24
PeterJBlinux does not use drives but instead mounts filesystems to the folder /mount or /media03:24
david_KevinAlaska:  thanks that worked03:24
PeterJBif you go to the address bar in konqeuror and type media:/ will show all available devices03:25
KevinAlaskawoot! /a_poor_dance03:25
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KevinAlaskadavid_ glad it helped. :)03:25
intelikey!ati | supernova_ did you look at this ?03:25
ubotusupernova_ did you look at this ?: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:25
supernova_yes03:25
KevinAlaskadavid_ write those down.. I have been just pasting them in a text file to keep a log. :)03:25
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david_KevinAlaska: k good idea03:26
intelikeyKevinAlaska your irc client can log everything....03:26
KevinAlaskadoh... intelikey had to one up on me.. :S03:26
intelikey1^   :)03:26
KevinAlaskaintelikey, just the selected items?03:26
KevinAlaskanow thats 2^ now03:27
supernova_intelikey: the problem it that my card cant use the drivers in the adept... my card is to old..03:27
supernova_so i have to do it manually03:27
greg_gHow does one enable a swap partition which is already made?03:27
intelikeyjust what has your name in it    or all     (most clients can anyway)03:27
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KevinAlaskahay supernovea_ I used a program called Envy03:27
KevinAlaskaworked great. let me get the link.. one sec03:27
david_is there a command to reset the sound system?03:28
intelikeysupernova_ ah yes.  i stand under you.   my nvidia card is not supported either.03:28
david_i changed my device and dont want to reboot03:28
mas195PeterJB: can you repost the link for the wireless solution... konversation locked up and i had to restart03:28
PeterJBhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear03:28
PeterJBuse adept instead of synaptic or kate instead of gedit03:28
KevinAlaskasupernova_ go to http://www.albertomilone.com/... I found a walkthrough outside of this by google.  worked great.03:29
intelikeydavid_ yes there is.   there are scripts for things like that too03:29
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KevinAlaskasupernova_ you at least with the (nVidia drivers on my end) I had to make sure everything nvidia was uninstalled first.03:30
intelikeycrimsun gave the url eariler but power failure blanked my records of it.03:30
Minataku!seen dr_willis03:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seen dr_willis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:30
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intelikeydavid_  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/3701203:30
intelikeydavid_ as you can see that's a pretty generic script (and purposely so) but you can modify and use any part as needed.    like modifying the modules var to more suit your need.03:33
david_intelikey: thanks!03:34
intelikeynot a bit of it.03:34
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supernova_kane: under k-menu -> system do you see synaptic at the bottom?03:39
Dekkardis there a qt/kde equivilent to efax-gtk?03:40
supernova_i believe i didnt have that one befote..03:40
intelikeysynaptic is not default in kubuntu03:40
supernova_intelikey: i followed the ati guide again and now i se synaptic..03:40
intelikeyDekkard kfax ?03:40
PeterJBequivalent of synaptic is adept manager which is located in system03:40
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Dekkardintelikey: is that a guess bro?03:40
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intelikeysupernova_ yes nothing wrong with adding it.   just that it's not installed by defauld in kubuntu03:41
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intelikeyDekkard no.   it's an aproximation.03:41
supernova_intelikey: is every software in adept manager free of charge?03:42
intelikeysupernova_ yes03:42
intelikeyas far as i know.03:42
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intelikeyif not someone correct me.03:42
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K1765i screwed up how my desktop looks lol, how can i set it back to default03:42
Dekkardi find kfaxview. or kfax.. but they are just viewers03:43
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Dekkardi have efax-gtk installed and it works.. im just looking for a kde alternative03:43
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intelikeyDekkard several faxing tools   nothing kde specific besides kfax       apt-cache search fax03:47
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Dekkardi think there is kdeprintfax.. that uses cups to print to fax03:48
Dekkardim researchign it03:48
intelikeylprfax03:49
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Dekkardhehe03:50
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Dekkard its native!03:50
Dekkardif you do a doc in kword.. and goto pring.. you cna select fax as the printer03:50
Dekkarddang03:51
Dekkard thats goto print.. you can chose fax as the printer03:51
Dekkardwhich is kinda cool..03:51
Dekkardefax-gtk requires the file to be postscript.. which i guess means pdf03:51
nosrednaekimpostscript is not PDF03:52
Dekkard ok03:52
Dekkard' all i knw is. it wouldnt accept doc files03:52
Dekkardbut it woudl accept pdf03:52
Dekkardand they worked03:53
intelikeyno pdf != ps03:53
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nosrednaekimPS, if I am correct here, is a file format used by printers to actually print03:53
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crimsunoh bah, the guy quit03:53
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intelikeypdf = portable document format   (adobe propritary)03:54
crimsunand to think I've been trying to get him a fixed kernel module.03:54
Dekkardrigfht03:54
intelikeycrimsun he said he was sending you his email and a /msg03:54
Dekkardbut isnt there more than one postscript file format?03:54
nosrednaekimDekkard: i don't think, so.03:54
intelikeycrimsun maybe even a   memoserv message.03:54
crimsunintelikey: yes, I received that, but it doesn't really help online debugging :-)03:55
crimsunoh well, ping-pong it shall be.03:55
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intelikeyno it doesn't.   but i also understand 2am sleepy time.03:55
Dekkardall i know is.. iwoudl try to send with efax-gtk.. and it wouldnt accept the doc format.. but it did accept pdfs,, and they printed correctly03:55
crimsunoh definitely.  Particularly since I've not slept in a day. :-)03:55
nosrednaekimintelikey: you in england?03:55
intelikeynosrednaekim i speek english some.03:56
nosrednaekimintelikey: I mean, you said it was 2.03:56
intelikeywhere ?03:56
nosrednaekimintelikey: no it doesn't.   but i also understand 2am sleepy time.03:57
KevinAlaskaintelikey speaks very good english... good enough that I would have never known03:57
dregorthKevinAlaska: lol same here03:57
KevinAlaskaheh.. I know.. suspicious isn't it...  *-)03:58
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intelikeyit's 2am each hour.   question is what time zone?    and saying i understand something doesn't mean it applies to me.    if you look at the context, you'll see we were talking about someone that "left because it was 2am and time for sleep"03:58
nosrednaekimah!... pardon..03:59
dregorthmmm very ;P03:59
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nosrednaekimlol.. I think 10 is late enough for myself.. talk to ya'll later..;)03:59
dregorthcya nosrednaekim03:59
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intelikeygooday nosrednaekim03:59
intelikeyerrr late.04:00
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flakeis there a way to use keyboard layout to assign a key to pop up my Panel 2   ?04:02
nimblepanel 2?04:02
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flakeyes, I have two panels, panel 2 autohides04:03
intelikeyif you can write a script that does it you can make a hot key run it04:03
KevinAlaskahay... I am looking for good ideas on how to use the kubuntu server I am making for primary backups off a couple of other computers I have here at home and a network printer all connected to a linksys router then to a cable modem.  I have 1 computer that is dual boot winxp/kubuntu and a winXP desktop and lastly a vista laptop... any ideas on what I should consider taking advantage of in the wonderful world of linux here at home?04:03
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flakecousre if the mouse isn't over it, it will autohide back unless I change the delay I suppose04:04
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intelikeyKevinAlaska rsync ?     tar ?     dd ?      what kind of "backup" you talking about?04:06
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KevinAlaskawell I was told to use rsync04:07
KevinAlaskabut that is all cli right? NOT that thats bad... heh04:07
intelikeyyes04:07
KevinAlaskadoes rsync backup only things that have changed on the client?04:07
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intelikeyummm  rdiff-backup   would.04:09
intelikeyi think rsync can.04:09
greg_gSo, I know I am not the only person to have kde and gnome installed.  Does anyone know of a way to have KDE apps separated out of the main menu in gnome, and gnome apps separated out in the main menu in kde???04:09
intelikeymight look at    backuppc - high-performance, enterprise-grade system for backing up PCs04:09
KevinAlaskawith the sync part in rsync ... I would think that it could have the abilities to copy only parts that are changed04:09
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intelikeygreg_g kmenu editor will let you do that to the kmenu04:10
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cravenI installed Kubuntu ontop of my ubuntu... I really like KDE... wish I tried it instead of GNOME to begin with.. but I can't get the system to change my window themes..any ideas04:11
greg_gintelikey: thanks04:12
KevinAlaskawhat else is NIFTY to do with a linux server... I want to use this as a learning project as well as something fun to motivate me on different things I can do with it.04:12
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dregorthmmm thank god for wireless...04:15
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intelikeyKevinAlaska setup your own cherokee or apache server and make it serve only to the 192.* range.   setup a mail server with sendmail and fetchmail....     ah  use iptables to control access to a subnet.   ahhhh....   setup a packet sniffer and spy on the other boxes....   ahhh.04:16
greg_gintelikey: asked in #ubuntu also and go this package, which is actually what I was thinking of, I just couldn't remember where I saw it before:  http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3103104:16
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KevinAlaskawoot.. nifty... thats the kind of stuff I am talking about. :)04:17
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intelikeyKevinAlaska but don't ask me to help on any of that; cause i'm network illiterate you know.04:17
flakehow would I pop up a hidden Panel  ?04:18
intelikeydcop ?04:18
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KevinAlaskaPft!... intelikey, me ask you for advice... when have I EVER done that? ;)04:20
intelikeyoh....04:20
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l_rhello04:21
l_rwhere is the interface for changing the MIME associations in kde?04:21
l_ri can't find it in the kcontrol04:22
hitmanWillyl_r: its under the menu in konqueror04:23
l_roh..thanks04:23
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hitmanWillynp04:23
trakinashitmanWilly: hello again04:24
hitmanWillyhowdy04:24
intelikeyoh,  hey hitmanWilly;   (:   it's all yours.  i'm out for an hour or seventeen.04:24
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hitmanWilly:)04:24
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trakinaswhich are the modules for scsi emulation?04:25
hitmanWillytrakinas: not sure...04:25
jamster545does anyone know how to get Kubuntu to show up in Solaris's GRUB menu?04:25
trakinashmmm... i find only a few ones in the portage... ops... on apt-get.04:25
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danny500yo04:25
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danny500does anyone know of a good program I can use to make an avi or mpeg file ready to burn onto dvd04:26
trakinasdanny500: a series of ones..04:27
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trakinastovidgui is a good start.04:28
trakinasjamster545: sorry, but i never used solaris.04:28
danny500ok thanks04:28
jamster545well... there is like 100 ppl in here... someone should know how04:28
danny500how do I get tovidgui?04:29
flakejamster545 you try #solaris   ?04:29
jamster545ok?04:29
danny500no that would be way to easy04:29
danny500lol04:29
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danny500nm I found out how04:33
trakinasdanny500: tovidGUI04:36
trakinas=P04:36
trakinastovid is the software.04:36
trakinasanyhow...04:36
jamster545well... i went to #solaris and everyone was mean... only one person was answering and he was calling me names and saying mean things and wouldnt help and said nobody there gave a $#!^ about Linux04:37
trakinasdanny500: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page04:37
jamster545#ubunyu04:37
jamster545#ubuntu04:37
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flakethere is  #opensolaris04:38
flakethey might be more friendly04:38
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qoophard times with beryl04:39
qoop:(04:39
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jamster545probably not... i am asking in #ubuntu and am asking jenda, a moderator04:41
flakeok04:41
danny500how do I install txt2tags?04:42
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qoopmy head is hurting meeee my brains are boilnig... wtf there are infinit ways to instal somthing on bunthu linux whatever...04:43
qoop:(04:43
qoopdam it04:44
danny500ya no shit04:44
danny500opps sorry04:44
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qoopwhare is the clasic instal.exe :D04:44
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danny500never mind I just downloaded a debian version and installed that lol04:45
danny500ya I know eh04:45
qoopo go to sleep i have tierd whit this... try tomorow with beryl again...04:45
danny500couldn't stick to a nice installer program for everything had to make it nice and complex :)04:45
qoopyap04:46
danny500lol04:46
danny500whats wrong with beryl?04:46
danny500are you using an ATI card?04:46
qoopwhat is more complex is the driver part04:46
qoopyap04:46
danny500thats why04:46
qoopyap i tink so04:46
danny500Linux has extremely bad drivers for ATI04:46
trakinasdanny500: that is how to use it04:47
danny500I have a 512MB ATI card and Breyl won't work either04:47
trakinasdanny500: before you ask... =P04:47
qoopso there are no ways to do that works?04:47
danny500as far as I know not really04:47
qoopgizasss04:47
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danny500ya sorry bud04:48
qoopstuppid ati team...04:48
danny500no kidding04:48
qoop:(:(:(04:48
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qoopman i going crazy04:48
Jhereghey all04:48
danny500buy an nvidia card and it'll work lol04:48
qoopto replace my ati card i must replace my mother board and the entire PC04:48
qoop:(04:48
danny500how so?04:48
qoopa have a 9600 pro04:49
qoopagp04:49
danny500and?04:49
flakeagp's are old tech, should be dropping in price04:49
danny500buy an agp nvidia04:49
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Jheregwhen I upgraded, my root directory got changed from being on /dev/hda to /dev/sde. everything still works, but why did it change?04:49
qoopyap but sh04:49
qoopnot new04:49
crdlbqoop, use the open source driver builtin to *ubuntu04:49
crdlbdon't use ati's proprietary driver04:50
qoopnow all are made on pcie04:50
crdlbif you do, beryl will work out of the box04:50
Jhereganyone know?04:50
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qoopk il try next time when il instal clean04:50
qoopto rollback driver is more complcated then install beryl04:51
qoopso...04:51
qoop:D04:51
crdlbqoop, so basically don't install anything except beryl04:51
crdlb(and beryl-manager and emerald-themes)04:51
qoopyap ok04:52
qoopwhell04:52
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qoopwhen ii instaled frist time ubuntu i had desktop effects enabled it works fine for 2 min after that freez and no more monitor signal04:53
qoopthe same way with the screensavers04:53
qoopthats why a had change my driver04:53
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JheregI have a question, I just recently upgraded to fiesty, and when I did, Linux stopped seeing my Hard drive as /dev/hda and started seeing it as /dev/sde. From my understanding of linux, this isn't possible without a hardware change, so why did it happen?04:53
qoopbut stiil freez on screensavers04:53
l_rdamn, kwallet is really annoying. every time kde starts an application like kmail or kopete,  kwallet starts and asks for a password. is there a way to use kwallet without asking for passwords each time?04:54
doutyhi there04:54
doutywhere can I get the drivers for nvidia graphic card?04:54
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doutysomeone can tell me where I can get drivers for my nvidia graphic card?04:55
l_rdon't you have this problem when using kmail? it seems impossible it only happens to me04:55
qoopnvidia.com?04:55
danny500douty: go to the nvidia website04:55
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jttJhereg, alan cox re-wrote the kernel disk drivers and all future devices will be  /dev/sXX etc.04:55
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qoopthere are others with ati cards that freezzz on opengl app?04:56
qoopspacialy 960004:56
doutyyeah I know but ubuntu must have an easy way to install them, right?04:56
crdlbubuntu does.04:56
crdlbkubuntu doesn't :(04:56
jtt!nvidia |douty04:56
ubotudouty: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto04:56
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doutyubotu thanks04:57
ubotuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)04:57
danny500douty: the drivers are right on the nvida wesite or you can just use synaptic and install the drivers that come with linux04:58
crdlbdouty, what nvidia card do you have?04:58
dr_willisbest to use synaptic to install them04:59
doutynVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] 04:59
fbvortexI'm trying to get unwanted stuff to not be started automatically on boot.  Along with others others I don't need/want brltty or avahi.  I've gone through the /etc/rc#.d/ and /etc/default directories, renaming the boot script links or moving them out of /etc/default, but these programs are still starting on boot!  How can I stop this?05:00
crdlbdouty, then use the nvidia-glx package for your drivers05:00
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doutywhat are they called in synaptic05:00
crdlbnvidia-glx05:00
crdlbthat's the newest you can use05:00
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dr_willis!nvidia05:00
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:00
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qoopok il take this silence as an answre... and there are 3 stupid moves in this 1. ATI for existing at all 2. Me for buy that shi 3. Burn my pc with benzen premium plus 98 :D05:00
crdlbqoop, you were getting freezes using the default driver?05:01
qoopyap05:01
crdlbugh05:01
qoopyap 205:01
crdlbthey're reverse-engineered so they're not perfect :(05:02
qoop:D05:02
qoopon windwos xp i had the same problem with opengl but when i disamble agp 8x to 0 the problem was gone05:02
crdlbsounds like bad hardware05:03
qoopnow when i migratet (so called) to ubuntu the same problem with opengl persits05:03
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qoopi dont know anymore...05:03
qoopi had tested this card and no problem on other pc05:04
danny500qoop: your card can/t handle ogl? I think your card is dieing05:04
danny500or your mobo is going05:04
qoopi tink now is something with hardware compatibility05:04
qoopwhat is mobo?05:04
crdlbmotherboard05:04
qoopaha05:04
qoopk05:04
danny500you noob lol05:04
crdlb!noob05:05
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.05:05
qooplol05:05
danny500haha05:05
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qoopyap i had my xp formated :D05:05
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danny500whats jfgi?05:05
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crdlbhey wait I'm on calvino05:05
crdlbthat's odd05:05
dr_willisBesides its N00b!05:06
dr_willis:)05:06
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danny500whats jfgi mean? never seen that befor05:06
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qoopk i am n o o b so what? for dont knowit mobo is?05:06
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qoopi know mobo as mb05:06
dr_willisdanny500,  egads! you dont even know what  that means! :005:06
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crdlbuh oh 94505:06
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danny500no05:06
draremttfu - that's totally so f*ing unfair05:06
dr_willis:)05:07
draremttfnu05:07
danny500lol05:07
qoopk05:07
draremi dont know05:07
qoopbye05:07
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danny500Just F*ing Google it05:07
danny500lol why is that not aloud?05:08
draremcause we are typing it danny05:08
danny500little striked now are we?05:08
draremget it?  not aloud?05:08
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danny500Sysinfo for 'netkiller': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ at 1000 MHz (2002 bogomips), HD: 10/30GB, RAM: 914/1011MB, 117 proc's, 58.49min up05:13
danny500hahaha it messed up lol05:13
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danny500I'm running at 2000MHz lol05:14
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danny500WTF I AM RUNNING AT 1GHz!!!!05:14
nixternaldanny500: cpu scaling05:15
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danny500why?05:15
danny500thats stupid05:15
nixternalyou think so05:15
danny500no I know so05:15
crdlbpower-saving05:15
crdlbit's a good thing05:15
nixternalOK...thanks crdlb05:15
danny500I don't want to save power, how do I turn that off?05:15
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danny500how do I turn it off?05:16
dr_willisdepends.05:16
dr_willis:)05:16
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danny500don't depends me, I want it off lol05:16
nixternalya, you could possibly shut it off in your bios05:17
dr_willisactually it should throttle up as needed.05:17
dr_willisand you should never notice the differance05:17
danny500It does that but I want it to run at full at all times05:17
dr_willisNo you dont. :) amd decided you dont. I do belive they are using that feature also to keep the cpu cool.05:17
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dr_willisi think its going to be a bigger feature in the next gen of cpus also.05:18
dr_willisYou want it to idle faster! :)05:18
danny500ok I guess so05:18
dr_willisSeen some specs on the next gen of cpu. they can selectively turn off parts of the cpu. and even turn off ram/slow it down when it wants to.05:19
danny500I have a ATI X550 on this machine rght now, any good?05:20
dr_willisBut all thats mainly for laptops.. but it will also let you save power/heat on the desktop05:20
dr_willisati is a bit of a gamble under linux. my X200m works 'so so' under linux. not ttied any of the newer ati stuff yet.05:20
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danny500do you have beryl working?05:21
dr_willisyou dont want to know what i think of Beryl :)05:22
dr_willislets just say.. i dont use it.05:22
dr_willis:P05:22
danny500no I want to know if you got it working05:22
dr_willisIve tested it out on various live cd's and my nvidia systems.05:22
crdlbon a x200m you'd have to use Xgl05:22
dr_willisI havent bothered  with it on my x2oom laptop05:22
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danny500ok Xgl it is05:22
dr_willisthe 200m  is having issues with fglrx even - so its back to the 'ati' driver for me.,05:22
ablyssi have beryl, compiz running just fine05:22
trakinaswhy rtfm arent alowed?? isnt rtfm = read the FRIENDLY manual?  or did someone fooled me? :o05:23
ablysseven got kiba-dock and cairo-dock running05:23
dr_willisI got windowmaker and its dock (warf) running. :)05:23
ablysshehe05:23
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crdlbdanny500, err no05:24
ablyssvmware seems to disagree w/ ubuntu's latest kernel05:24
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crdlbno don't need Xgl if you don't use fglrx05:24
f4ramirHi. I am able to connect to my wireless network fine with XP. But not able to do so from Kubuntu with what appears to be the same settings.05:24
ablyssthat or either my hardrive is dieing05:24
crdlbuse the open source driver that comes with ubuntu05:24
f4ramirI can connect fine from both machines if WPA is disabled.05:24
f4ramirBut once enabled I can only connect from the XP box.05:25
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f4ramirAny idea why?05:25
dr_willisablyss,  having issues running ubuntu under vmware? or visa-versa?05:25
f4ramirIs there a log that I can access for trouble shooting?05:26
ablyssdr_willis: well, vmware released a patch for the ubuntu's 7.04 kernel... and i don't think they perfected it yet05:26
ablyssdr_willis: it sucks too... mainly I have to run vmware to do office work05:28
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dr_willisHmm.. i got vmware server running on on my ubuntu box last i looked.05:29
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dr_willisI did have to tweak somthing.. i forget what.05:30
ablyssvmplayer ?05:30
ablyssvmware-player.. maybe its called05:30
ablyssi don't maybe problem is in my upgrade05:30
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ablysshave to go.. have a good chat,05:31
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dr_willisI use vmware server05:32
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trakinasi just want to my drive dvd be able to read.. =(05:34
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dr_willishuh?05:35
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nzkWhy is my computer so slow05:37
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nzkI barely have anything running and its a 2.5 load avg.05:37
dregorthf4ramir: still having those wireless probs?05:37
trakinasnzk: mine eats 345MB of memory only with kde...05:38
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nzktrakinas, its not memory, its cpu05:38
trakinasnzk: i got it.05:38
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dregorthf4ramir05:41
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f4ramirdregorth: yep. I just tried resetting everything. Still can't get through with WPA enabled.05:42
f4ramirdregorth: Should I perhaps be using WEP instead? Or WPA2?05:43
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f4ramirdregorth: XP doesn't seem to like WPA2 :S05:43
dregorthya no kiddin heh05:43
dregorthdon't worry about wpa205:43
dregorthumm.. hmm...05:43
dregorthjust thinkin to myself for a bit hehe05:44
f4ramirsURE - THANKS.05:44
f4ramir-caps05:44
dregorthtrying to get your situation all lined out in my head05:44
dregorthnp05:44
dregorthcan't promise i'll be able to help but i'd like to for sure05:44
dregorthi had to deal with that prob too05:44
dregorth:P05:45
dregorthwhat kind of wireless card do you have?05:45
f4ramirIn the security tab in the wlan assistant, I've selected "shared key", entered my key and check "ascii".05:45
f4ramirIt's a Linksys05:45
f4ramirThe router is the same.05:45
dregorthk05:46
dregorthwhile we're talking i'm gonna be doing a bit of searching on google as long as you will do the same05:46
dregorth:)05:46
f4ramirSure :) I'm checking synaptic to see if there are any packages I should install or some such.05:46
dregorthk05:46
dregorthgood good05:46
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f4ramirhmm kwlan sounds interesting. But it requires me to remove knetworkmanager :S05:48
trakinashow do I disable scsi emulation?05:48
dregorthmm what model is your card?05:48
f4ramirwmp54g05:49
trakinastried recompiling the kernel, but it crashes... using the ubuntu way can I change this?05:49
dregorthand what do you have the router set to? wpa, wep?05:49
f4ramirWPA05:49
dregorthtrakinas: wish i could help ya out. no idea :P05:49
dregorthf4ramir: alright05:49
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dregorthwhat're you using? edgy, feisty, or earlier?05:50
trakinasnp! i will try smth tomorrow night or saturday... if everything fails, gentoo is here to save me. now i have to go.05:50
trakinascheers all05:50
dregorthalright take care :D05:50
trakinasthanks! :] 05:50
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klobsteranyone stopped using the artsD in favor of using ALSA directly?05:51
Random_Transithey, question....why are all the fonts in my KDE apps much larger when i run those apps in GNOME?05:51
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JucatoRandom_Transit: did you check the Font settings in System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts ?05:52
f4ramirdregorth: feisty05:52
dregorthf4ramir: k gimme a bit more time. just keep watching for my responses :P05:52
f4ramirok :)05:53
f4ramirAny idea where the logs are stored?05:53
dregorthmmm not off the top of my head...05:53
dr_willis /var/logs05:53
dregorthi'm guessing you use dhcp right?05:53
Random_TransitJucato, no, i don't actually have KDE itself installed....just the base libs and a few apps like KTorrrent and Amarok05:53
f4ramirdregorth: nope05:53
dregorthoh static, eh?05:54
f4ramirdr_willis: thanks. Where exactly in /var/logs? ANy idea?05:54
f4ramirdregorth: yes05:54
dregorthclever bastard lol j/k05:54
dregorthi'm still lookin no worries05:54
dregorth:)05:54
f4ramirheh05:54
JucatoRandom_Transit: I'm not really sure, but I think KDE uses different font settings. But that could also be affected by how fonts are displayed by KDE or GNOME in the first place.05:54
dregorthdo you wanna stick with static?05:55
dr_willisf4ramir,  grep and find is our fried.. :) what are we even looking for?05:55
dr_willis :)05:55
dregorthdr_willis: do you know what his prob is?05:55
f4ramirdr_willis: to find out why my wifi doesn't connect with WPA enabled.05:55
f4ramirdregorth: It seems to work fine with static when WPA is disabled. So I'm not sure if that's the problem. Want me to give it a shot any how?05:56
dregorthhmmm05:56
dregorththat's weird05:56
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dregorthlol05:57
f4ramirhehe05:57
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dr_willis:)05:57
klobstermobuto: what kernel are you on (uname -r)?05:58
f4ramirdregorth: I've not registered this nick. SO I can't reply to your PMs.05:58
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f4ramirdregorth: But I highly appreciate your assistance :)05:59
dregorthah np05:59
dregorthwhat driver do you have installed for it?05:59
dregorthi saw somewhere that the driver would be rt250005:59
dregorthcorrect?05:59
f4ramirhmm how do I check?06:00
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f4ramirlspci gives me: Ralink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI06:01
f4ramiris that what you need?06:01
dregorthsorry was looking at some stuff06:02
dregorthya that's good06:02
dregorththx06:02
f4ramirThe ubuntu wiki states that Ralink is a good thing as well :)06:02
dregorthusually works outta the box afaik06:03
dregorthi have rt250006:03
dregorth:)06:03
dregorthnever used static ip tho06:03
dregorthso i prolly won't be the best of help06:03
dregorthbut i'm willing to spend time helping you figure this out06:03
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jarnIs there a way to configure my printer so that it prints the date and page numbers on the page?06:03
jarnIs there a way to configure my printer so that it prints the date and page numbers on the page? It's an HP Deskjet 5740.06:03
f4ramirdregorth: ok, I'm going to enable DHCP and see what happens. I'll probably get disconnected though. bbiab.06:04
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dregorthalright06:05
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dr_willisjarn,  i belive i saw that setting in the printer-settings dialogs. BUT not all programs may let it do that. (that may been for text only printing)06:06
jarndr_willis: I don't have a program called printer-settings.06:07
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kwoodardso ... is automounting external ext3 hard drives impossible?06:07
netdaemonanyone use 64 bit kubunty06:08
kwoodardI can't seem to get the permissions right.  And no icons ever automatically show up on my desktop.06:08
netdaemonkubuntu*06:08
dr_willisi never said there was :) thers a printer-settings section/control center tools..    I tend touse the CUPS web interface. not kde's tools.06:08
dr_willisjarn,  you trying to get this for one specific program?06:08
jarndr_willis: No.06:08
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jarndr_willis: I thought you meant there was a program called printer-settings, my bad.06:09
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jarndr_willis: How do I access he CUPS interface? I've been using the one in kcontrol.06:09
dr_willisits gotten where that feature is very program specific. since for example you wouldent want page # at the bottom of a 8x11 glossy print. :)06:09
LynoureCould someone see if kpilot hangs for them too? (even before a device is plugged in, so no device needed for this)06:09
dr_williscups is..  https://localhost:631  (i think)06:10
kwoodardWill someone please help me configure kubuntu to automount drives and get the permissions right?06:10
dr_willisor was that swat06:10
Lynoure(on feisty, that is)06:10
dr_williscups.org has the docs   :) i got my printer set.. and its been rnning for the last 3 months. not had to go to its controlls in ages06:10
jarndr_willis: That was right.06:10
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dr_willisjarn,  im just not sure how 'enabled' the cups interface is under Feisty (or whatever ubuntu you are using) its been soort of disabled in the last few releases06:11
jarndr_willis: Ah.06:11
jarndr_willis: Also, do you know why my printer keeps turning off when it's not in use? It only does this in Linux, not in Windows.06:11
dr_willispower saveing mode?06:12
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jarndr_willis: Yeah, that's what I had guessed. Don't see that in options either, though.06:13
dr_williscould be windows is being stupid and polling the printer keeping it awake.06:13
dr_williswhile linux is smarter06:13
dr_willisMy old laser goes to sleep after an hr or so.06:13
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dregorthwb f4ramir06:17
kwoodardDoes anyone have any ideas on mounting ext3 external hard drives?06:18
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netdaemoneh06:20
jarndr_willis: The problem is my printer is not in a handy position. While for some people that's good, for me it's bad. I'd prefer if it would only turn off when I turned my computer off instead of after a few minutes of not being used.06:20
netdaemonanyone have openarena running on 64 bit kubuntu?06:20
dr_willisjarn,  Global warming! You are melting the ice caps with that attitude! :)06:20
kwoodardfuck ... good thing I'm on this irc getting "support"06:20
kwoodardmy ass06:20
dr_willisjarn,  you mean you have to physicially hit a button to power it back on?06:21
jarndr_willis: Yes.06:21
dr_williswell i was going to answer kwoodard.. but guess not06:21
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jarnlol06:21
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jarnSome people have no patience.06:21
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dr_willisjarn,  Hmm My printer dosent even have a power button06:21
jarndr_willis: Mine does. And I need to hit it whenever I want to print in Linux.06:22
dr_willisabnd to answer kwood..    use the mount command, or edit fstab.. or that KDe control panel tool06:22
dr_willisheh heh06:22
dr_willisjarn,  odd. never seen that befor,06:22
jarndr_willis: :(06:22
l_rlol06:22
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dr_willisheck my printer is 10+ yrs old. and dont have it.06:22
dr_willis:)06:22
klobsterhow do I restart a service (acpi to be specific)06:22
klobstermy printer is kinkos06:22
dr_willissudo /etc/init.d/servicere restart06:23
dr_willisor similer06:23
jarnMy printer is... I don't know how old. I got it free of freecycle.06:23
jarnMy old one, in addition to not working in Linux, was such a pos that it barely worked in Windows.06:23
jarnSo I found out the command line options to get the header I want.06:23
dr_willissounds like a lexmark :)06:24
klobsterdr_willis: thanks, why can I never remember that?06:24
jarnIs there a way to make it always use that?06:24
jarnIt was a canon.06:24
jarnAnd a compaq.06:24
jarnBoth printers were equally crappy.06:24
dr_willisheh. I will stick withmy old hp laserjet 6l for a while longer06:25
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jarnLaserjet.06:25
dr_willisits outlasted like ... 9 pc's06:25
jarnTeh niceness.06:25
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jarnSo do you know how to use the options available through command-line printing when not in command-line printing?06:25
jarnLike can I enter somewhere what options I want to use?06:25
klobsterdr_will the laserjet 6l!  i used to do tech support for her06:25
jarnI want to use the "prettyprint" option and the "outputorder=reverse" option.06:26
dr_willisprinting under linux has gootten  sort of complex of late. I cant  rember the lat time  i printed fromteh command line.06:26
dr_willisthere was that front end too, (xprint) i think that let ya do a lot of those tricks06:26
dr_willis!find xprint06:26
ubotuFound: libxcb-xprint0, libxcb-xprint0-dbg, libxcb-xprint0-dev, linuxprinting.org-ppds, linuxprinting.org-ppds-extra (and 10 others)06:26
dr_willismay be some other tools06:26
dr_willisxprint - Xprint - the X11 print system (binary)06:27
jarnIndeed.06:27
jarnAm installing it.06:27
dr_willisproblem can get 6to be with using the old-style printing tools and the newer style.06:27
jarnEh.06:27
dr_willisive had somne real - oddness in the last 8+ years at times06:27
jarnIt won't install anyway.06:27
dr_willisheh - it wont install here either.06:27
dr_willisodd06:27
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dr_willisDepends: libx11-6 but it is not going to be installed or06:28
jarnDo you get that it conflicts with x11-common too?06:28
jarnAh.06:28
dr_willisDepends: xprint-common but it is not going to be installed06:28
jarnI get that: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  x11-common: Conflicts: xprint (<= 1:0.1.0.alpha1-13) but 1:0.1.0.alpha1-10 is to be installed.06:28
luizHELP !!!06:28
dr_willisx11-common: Conflicts: xprint (<= 1:0.1.0.alpha1-13) bu06:28
dr_willis!ask06:29
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)06:29
luizI got the kubuntu SO, ... installed, conected to the internet, but cannot surf the web...06:29
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klobsterhaha06:30
klobsterluiz: J/k... can you ping something?  what is the problem?06:30
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dr_willisthis is a wired network connection? not wireless?06:31
luizI am connected right now, I can chat in this program (Konversation) , but all connections to th internet, using other programs, fail...06:32
klobsterwhat other programs?06:32
klobsterknoqueror?06:33
luizit's a wired connection, a dialled connection.06:33
klobster*konqueror?06:33
luizyes...06:33
luizkonqueror fails06:33
klobsterwhat error do you recieve?06:33
luizwait...06:33
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dr_willisso you are stating that just WEB sites fail?06:34
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klobsterdr_willis: thats what it sounds like, but I thought I would be polite.06:35
luiztha messa ge is:  it wasn't possible connect to this machine...06:35
klobsterwhat machine?06:35
luizany web page I try to conect to ... for example: http://www.gmail.com/.06:36
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klobsterI want you to try thisin a command shell: ping www.gmail.com06:37
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luizok...06:37
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klobsterluiz: I really need the exact wording of the error you recieve...06:37
klobsterluiz: in konqueror, that is06:38
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luizthis was the result:06:38
luiz--- googlemail.l.google.com ping statistics ---06:38
luiz18 packets transmitted, 18 received, 0% packet loss, time 17068ms06:38
luizrtt min/avg/max/mdev = 267.946/277.707/315.731/11.775 ms06:38
klobsterlooks right for dialup06:39
dr_willisHmm06:39
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Carnage\Are you behind some firewall?06:39
dr_willistry ping  google.com            and try ping  64.233.167.9906:39
klobster!pastebin06:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)06:40
dr_willistry also ' http://64.233.167.99  '06:40
klobsterluiz: I really need the exact wording of the error you recieve in konqueror  when you try to open gmail.com06:40
luizI dont know about firewalls... I just installed the kubunto few minutes ago... I doesn't installed or configured any firewall...06:41
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klobsterluiz: what you are suggesting is that you are having browser issues, but you DO have internet access06:41
dr_willisthat is very.. weird.06:41
klobsterluiz: so we need to fix your browser.06:41
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klobsterluiz: so first, lets click the system menu icon and select home folder, let me know when it opens06:43
luizwell... I cant understad why am i talking to you  now... connected, and at the same time i cannot surf the web by konqueror...06:43
jarnluiz: Have you tried with a different browser?06:43
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dr_willisluiz,  i wonder if your isp isent doing somthing.. odd...06:43
dr_willisluiz,  try  that    http://64.233.167.99 yet?06:44
luizthats the point... this is the only one browser kubuntu comes with installed.06:44
luizi'll try.06:44
dr_willisi wonder if lynx or linkx is installed also06:45
dr_willislynx , links, w3m06:45
luizI'll look for it now...06:45
luizno... no other browsers... just konqueror ...06:46
dr_willisOh yea - firefox isentisntaleld by default either.06:46
klobsterluiz: it isn't.  can you use konqueror to browse internal files on your computer?06:46
dr_willisi wonder what  'sudo apt-get update' would do. :)06:46
jarnluiz: You could install a different browser since you can access the internet but just not use Konqueror.06:46
luizyes... internally, its wonderful...06:46
jarnI've never had good luck with Konqueror.06:47
jarnluiz: I don't remember how big Firefox is, but you could try installing it and see if that works.06:47
klobsterluiz: did you try 64.233.167.99 as a web address?06:47
klobsterjarn: it's large. opera would be better06:48
jarnklobster: Ah.06:48
dr_willislets get him a link he can wget for opera ... :)06:48
luizI forgot to try apt-get... but the kuuntu tool... add/remove programs... it doesn't work06:48
dr_willisapt-get update06:48
dr_willisdont work?06:48
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klobsterluiz: did you try 64.233.167.99 as a web address?06:49
luizyes... still error message...06:49
mefisto__I want to set up a home network (just 2 machines) to share folders, printers, etc. Could someone suggest a howto?06:49
Admiral_Chicagosamba i think can do that06:50
dr_willishttp://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=29341&location=148&nothanks=yes&sub=marine06:50
dr_willishmm wonder if he can wget that06:50
mefisto__Admiral_Chicago: yes, I have samba installed on both machines, need a walkthrough to set things up06:50
dr_willisfdrf06:51
Admiral_Chicagoah okay i'm not good with samba, i just know thats teh tool to use06:51
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jarndr_willis: Yep, that cen be wget..ted?06:51
klobster5 megs, though...06:51
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dr_willisthats the url to opera.06:52
dr_willisdarn weird urls06:52
jarnklobster: Better than nothing, no?06:52
klobsterluiz: can you copy and paste the error message you recieve in konqueror?06:52
jarnklobster: It will take awhile, but such is life.06:52
jarnklobster: Do you know if lynx comes preinstalled?06:52
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klobsterluiz: I understand you can't pastebin, I hope no one will mind...06:53
klobsterjarn: it does not06:53
jarnklobster: Ah.06:53
jarnI would certainly hope noone minds, considering that's one of his problems!06:53
luizwI can copy, but it'i in portuguese... iI'm brazillian...06:53
jarnIt would be awful narrow-minded of someone to mind.06:53
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klobsterw3m is on my sys, but I do not know if it is standard06:53
jarnklobster: I have it. I don't remember ever installing it, but I might have.06:54
klobsterluiz: I'll try to find a translation, but I still need the erorr msg06:54
jarnklobster: Actually, I think it's standard since when I try to remove it it removes ubuntu-base.06:54
luizcan someona sugest a package really easy of getting by apt-get?06:55
Admiral_Chicagoluiz: yakuake06:56
luizUm erro ocorreu ao carregar http://www.gmail.com:06:56
luizNo foi possvel conectar-se  mquina http://www.gmail.com/.06:56
klobsterluiz: opera06:56
jarnHrm.06:56
klobsterluiz: can you do this: type w3m www.gmail.com and let me know what happens (might take a bit)06:57
jarnI know a little bit of Spanish. It's kind of similar to Portugese and, if I'm understanding it correctly, it's saying exactly what he said it is.06:57
luizI would be very happy if there was ANY browser i could get installed... the fact is that i cannot get no one, cause my connection don let me do so...06:58
dr_willisor telnet to www.gmail.com06:58
jarnluiz: You can't apt-get?06:58
luizno...06:59
klobsterluiz: w3m is a browser, although it is text only... moment while I research06:59
luizapt-get says... impossible to find package...06:59
luizahhhhh wha's happening?????07:00
dr_willisluiz,  im tempted to tell ya to try out a Linux Live CD or 2 or 3. BUT on dialup.. egads...07:00
dr_willisPuppyLinux is like a 50mb download i think. :)07:00
luizw3m???07:00
jarndr_willis: That's still huge over dialup.07:01
dr_willisbut it would be the ultimate test.. if he has same issue with PuppyLinux. then we know its some isp issue.07:01
jarndr_willis: True.07:01
dr_willisI cant imagine how he got to freenode. and  cant resplove other names07:01
dr_willisUnless the irc client has the ip#'s in the server list07:01
jarndr_willis: I could understand the konqueror being weird, but apt-get surprises me. Konqueror is, imo, a piece of crap. I know it's not normal behavior, but it's actually slow. If I download anything through it, I download at less than 1% of normal speed. Pages take forever to load and it crashes frequently.07:02
jarnThat's why I switched to Firefox.07:02
luizwell... I tried ubuntu. and... OK... the connection works wonderfully... but in kubuntu... NO...07:03
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bkywhat package would freeimage be in?07:03
dr_willisjarn,  cant say that ivbe ever had those issues.07:03
dr_willisluiz,  thats EVEN weirder now...07:03
jarndr_willis: Yeah. It's not normal behavior, but it happened to me.07:03
jarnluiz: If you switch back to gnome, does it still work? Or did that stop working too once you installed kde?07:04
dr_willisHow are you accessing the dialup? what program?07:04
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klobsterluiz: how are you opening konqueror.  and what did w3m do?07:05
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luizno... i had installed kubuntu... used it for a week , everything working fine... so I decided to uninstal ubuntu and install kubuntu...07:06
luiznow... here am I...07:06
dr_willisluiz,  hmm..   you got a ubuntu live cd, and a kubuntu live cd?07:06
rookie1_1998i have a gparted related question any one knows where i should go07:07
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klobsterluiz: next time you can just install the kde-desktop if you want to switch, it will save time.  in fact you _could_ install gnome-desktop, if you think ubuntu will fix your internet issue07:07
luizI tried using KPPP, it doesn't worked... so I reconfigured ppp-config, and conecct by the (pon) command.07:07
klobsterluiz: how are you opening konqueror?07:08
Jucato(there's no kde-desktop package, only kubuntu-desktop package *or* kde package)07:08
luizyes... both SOs... Ubuntu worked fine... but kubuntu oesn't work...07:08
dr_willisOdd....07:09
luizit is not in live state... it's alread installed im my pc...07:09
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klobsterluiz did you try other websites, or only gmail?07:09
dr_willisyou could always install  ubuntu from the live cd, and then use the kubuntu cd to install the kubuntu-desktop packages I guess.07:09
luizI tryed many others...07:10
Jucatodr_willis: only if using the alternate install cd07:10
Jucato(not the desktop/live cd)07:10
luizi used the kubuntu live cd...07:10
dr_willishe couldent copy the package files over to /var/apt  and then isntall?07:11
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Jucatodr_willis: from the live cd? nope. there are no .deb packages on it07:11
dr_willisOh the Humnity!07:12
dr_willisWhere are they then? heh07:12
Jucatoonly available on the alternate install cd.07:12
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dr_willisso the live cd installs some sort of 'system image' then eh? Ive rarely used the livecd installer07:13
Jucatodr_willis: it basically copies what's on the Live CD, minus QtParted and Ubiquity07:13
luizwhat coud be happening? I am connected, talking to you guys, but cannot acess a web page...07:13
ubunturosluiz: no DNS resolution?07:14
Jucatoluiz: um... wild guess. DNS issue (in /etc/resolv.conf)07:14
klobsterluiz: ok try this: and tell me what happens: sudo konqueror gmail.com07:14
luizok...07:14
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jarnklobster: Shouldn't he use kdesu?07:15
Jucatohe should07:15
luizops... I can' think what to say... IT WORKED... it was a permission problem?07:16
dr_willisit just gets weird er and weirder...07:16
dr_willisi wonder if its a dialup/group/user issue?07:16
Jucatoor as Alice would say, "curiouser and curiouser"07:16
dr_willisbut WHY dident 'sudo apt-get update' work then?07:16
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klobsterluiz: I was hoping you would say it did NOT work, because then i could say i was at a loss.  it's a kde thing, im afraid.  give me a sec on a fix07:16
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luizok... sudo konqueror gmail worked... what do I heve to do now?07:17
klobsterluiz: how many users have you set up?07:17
Jucatowait. so IRC and apt-get both work? but not web browsing?07:17
luizonly one...07:17
klobsterjucato: yup07:17
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Jucatotry creating a new user and login to that and check web browsing07:17
luizonly irc work...07:18
klobsterjucato: that should work07:18
luizwhy sudo konqueror gmail worked?07:18
Jucatoluiz: because it is running konqueror as root, not as your user07:18
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luizah... so how can I make my user work?07:19
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luizhello...07:22
klobsterluiz: can you do: mv ~/.kde/share/config/kio_httprc ~/.kde/share/config/kio_httprc.bak07:22
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luizat konsole?07:22
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klobsterand: mv ~/.kde/share/config/Kioslaverc ~/.kde/share/config/Kioslaverc.bak07:22
klobsteryes in konsole07:22
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luizthe first one than the other, correct?07:23
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klobstereither or07:24
luizok.07:24
luizI entered the first command... no messages in result.07:25
luiz...07:25
klobstergood07:25
klobsteryou should recieve no msg07:26
jwallingfordhow do i update thunderbird to version 2.0?07:27
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klobsterluiz?07:27
luizdo I have to enter that second command?07:29
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klobsteryes07:30
dregorthHobbsee: sorry about the away message thing07:30
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dregorthHobbsee: i shoulda read the rules a lil' more closely heh07:30
Hobbseedregorth: no problem.  assuming it's off now :)07:30
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Admiral_ChicagoHobbsee: wielding the sword of power eh?07:31
dregorthHobbsee: doing that right now. first time using konversation and didn't know it'd do that cuz i had to go away and set the option quickly without looking at it07:31
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: stick of power, more probably :)07:31
Hobbseedregorth: ahh.  it's turned off by default, thank goodness.07:31
klobsterluiz: have you entered the second command yet?07:31
Hobbseedregorth: you'll see there's a connection, set away globally, which wont produce that message unless you tell it to07:32
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dregorthHobbsee: that's what i get for having my bro set it up07:32
dregorthdon't i feel like a noob :S07:32
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JucatoHobbsee: you're running Konvi SVN aren't you?07:32
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: no, she definetly carries a sword like RMS...07:32
Jucatohehe ;)07:32
luizyes...... that's the error message: Impossible to make stat in .... archive or directory inesistent07:32
luizoh... my english fails...07:33
Jucatoklobster: the second command looks a bit wrong. Linux is case sensitive07:33
HobbseeJucato: yes07:34
Hobbseedregorth: heh07:34
Hobbseedregorth: it's fine :)07:34
dregorthHobbsee: all i ask is that you don't remember my nick as being an idiot lol07:34
klobsterjucato: doh!07:34
Hobbseenah07:34
dregorthHobbsee: i swear i'm a great guy!07:34
luizI copied and pasted... I'll try again...07:34
JucatoHobbsee: figured. only the SVN version has the Connection menu. on 1.0.1 it's still File menu :)07:34
Hobbsee:)07:34
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dregorthjust not all that great when it comes to things i know very little about07:34
Hobbseeahhh...07:34
Hobbseewell, file then07:34
klobsterluiz: try this07:34
Hobbseedregorth: you'll learn :)07:34
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dregorthHobbsee: well, thanks for the encouragement07:35
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: for real? awesome...07:35
dregorth:)07:35
klobsterand: mv ~/.kde/share/config/kioslaverc ~/.kde/share/config/kioslaverc.bak07:35
HobbseeJucato: nice!07:35
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: not committing it, but rather poking the dev to change it and suggesting the name :)07:35
Admiral_Chicagoah lol.07:35
Jucato(but only because there was no other logical name, but we're still thinking about it)07:35
Admiral_Chicagobbiab, programming my life away.07:35
Jucatohehe :)07:35
luizKind of stupid question, but... do I have to type "and" too?07:36
klobsterno, no and07:37
luizok...07:37
klobsterluiz: sorry, I should have cut that out the scond time07:37
luizI entered the command, and no error massages.07:38
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dregorthi want everyone's input on this. who of you has websites that you check daily for gnu/linux news and updates (especially relating to kubuntu info)? also, which sites might those be?07:38
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rollerskatejammsAnybody know why my nvidia card might only work with vesa07:38
rollerskatejammsnv and nvidia wont work07:38
Admiral_Chicagodregorth: http://planetkde.org/ planet.ubuntu.com ... but this belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic07:38
klobsterdregorth: /.07:39
klobsterluiz: done?07:39
dregorthAdmiral_Chicago: sorry07:39
dregorththis day gets greater and greater by the minute07:39
luizyes... no erro messages...07:39
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klobsterok, we need to restart kde.  you can log off and do a ctrl-alt-bksp or you can reboot, your choice07:40
klobsterluiz: ^07:40
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!07:40
luizok... I'lll come back soon...07:41
klobsterhello, dr^H^H milhouse!07:41
klobsterluiz: me too, cacer calls...07:41
MilhousePunkRockJucato: I stumbled across your website lately, is it possible to convert to kde-core without a fresh start?07:41
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luizI'm back...07:42
klobsterme too07:43
luizok... what's next?07:44
klobsterluiz:try konqueror gmail.com in the konsole07:44
luizthe problem still happens...07:45
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MilhousePunkRockluiz: What is the problem?07:45
Zaikonautafter resuming from hibernate, there are two processes (kacpid and kacpi_notify) which keep more than 80% of my processor busy. does anybody know how i can work around this ubuntu bug?07:46
luizI can connect, by dialled conection, talk to you here, bur konqueror don't conects to websites, neither apt-get works...07:46
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klobsterluiz: Im at a loss.  if you create another user, it _should be able to access the web.  it's a permissions issue, but I cant resolve without more research07:47
MilhousePunkRockluiz: Did you check if it's some proxy issue?07:47
klobsterluiz: are you sure apt-get does not work?07:48
luizok... thanks A LOT ... Ill try this solution...07:48
MilhousePunkRockZaikonaut: Does it stay that way?07:48
ZaikonautMilhousePunkRock: it does07:48
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luizIf you get any solution, luizevandro@gmail.com , ok?07:48
klobsterMilhousePunkrock: luiz cannot access the web with konqueror only.07:49
MilhousePunkRockZaikonaut: Because those two are obviously part of the power management07:49
klobsterluiz: wait07:49
luizops... luizevandro1@gmail.com...07:49
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luizwaiting...07:49
klobsterluiz: can you try one more thing? in konsole type konqueror ftp://ling.lll.hawaii.edu/07:49
ZaikonautMilhousePunkRock: yeah, it looks like power management is somehow damaged by my using hibernate07:49
luizok...07:49
klobsterzaikonaut: how many kernels do this?07:50
luizit seems that worked...07:50
MilhousePunkRockZaikonaut: Power management is a really tricky thing... I assume it's a laptop we are talking about? Maybe you could check if there is an IRC channel for it?07:51
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luizi cam see some files...07:51
Zaikonautklobster: i tested only two07:51
MilhousePunkRockluiz: Check the control center if there is some proxy set07:51
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: yes. check this out: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core07:51
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klobsterluiz: ok that means it is an http issue, thank you that helps07:52
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klobsterMilhousePunkRock: it's only with http and only in konqueror07:53
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luizno proxy sets.. it's setted to connect directilly to internet.07:53
klobsterMilhousePunkRock: kdesu konqueror works07:53
klobsterMilhousePunkRock: it's a fun one, huh?07:53
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luizno socks enabled too...07:54
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MilhousePunkRockIt was worth a try, wasn't it...07:54
MilhousePunkRockJucato: Hmm, that looks like it is going to uninstall just about everything...07:54
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: that's the point. it will only leave a very minimal system. that's kde-core07:55
JucatoMilhousePunkRock: then you try to build your desired system on top of that, adding only the stuff you need and want07:55
MilhousePunkRockJucato: I have uninstalled pretty much everything I do not need, does that have the same effect?07:55
Jucatomore or less07:55
MilhousePunkRockfair enough07:56
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MilhousePunkRockIs there a way to get rid of that korganizer notification thing in the system area?07:57
dregorthya. use save session and just save your session when you select to quit that daemon07:57
dregorththat's how i solved it07:57
klobsterluiz: i will look into it and email you if I can solve.07:57
dregorthMilhousePunkRock: i could point you to the thread as soon as i find it if you want07:57
MilhousePunkRockdregorth: That'd be great07:57
klobsterluiz: in the mean time create a new user; it should be able to access the web.07:58
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klobsterluiz: and I believe apt-get _does_ work, but we didn't do a proper test of it07:58
dregorthMilhousePunkRock: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3081007.007:58
UFFFFFFmay I ask a qustion?07:58
klobster!ask07:58
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:58
Admiral_ChicagoUFFFFFF: go for it07:58
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UFFFFFFhow to install the file Toshiba_GL1010_CUPS.ppd07:59
luizok... my email is luizevandro1@gmail.com... whith the number one at tha and of my name, don't forget... hehe  lol07:59
UFFFFFFAdmiral: how to install the file Toshiba_GL1010_CUPS.ppd?08:00
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virusahi al08:01
virusahello from georgia08:01
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MaxdamantusAnyone here managed to get 2X Application Server Client/Server working properly?08:01
dregorthMilhousePunkRock: that help at all?08:01
virusacan you help me with compilation08:02
MilhousePunkRockdregorth: Still reading08:02
MaxdamantusWhenever I try, it shows me the whole desktop, instead of loading the program and displaying it seperately.08:02
dregorthMilhousePunkRock: k08:03
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MilhousePunkRockdregorth: I followed Jucato's hint and edited the korgac.desktop... Let me check if it works...08:07
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Zaikonauton the nvidia drivers page, what is the driver that i can use for the following soundcard: "00:05.0 audio device: nvidia corporation mcp61 high definition audio (rev a2)"08:11
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MilhousePunkRockThat brings up another issue that feisty delivered: I can08:14
MilhousePunkRocknot log out anymore, KDM won't come up....08:14
dregorthMilhousePunkRock: weird...08:15
dregorthMilhousePunkRock: umm did that come up because of the attempted fix for the daemon or no?08:16
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MilhousePunkRockdregorth: no... I guess the daemon will be there, since I kmail is launched autoatically...08:17
dregorthMilhousePunkRock: ah ok well as long as you're happy with it. never worked with kmail so didn't know it did that08:18
MilhousePunkRockmaybe if I used KMail without KOrganizer, since I do not really need the rest...08:19
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dregorthseems plausible but i don't wanna tell you to try it and then it screw something up lol08:20
dregorthjust never worked with kmail so didn't know how it worked and whether it needed korganizer daemon running or what the deal was08:20
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MilhousePunkRockTo get the names right now: I just launched KMail directly and not from Kontact, now it came up with the KOrganizer daemon...08:23
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MilhousePunkRockWITHOUT that is, not with08:24
dregorthok so it didn't pop up when opening kmail08:25
dregorthright? lol08:25
MilhousePunkRocklet's hope it stays that way...08:26
dregorthgood08:26
dregorthif that first way doesn't work then try the second08:26
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dregorththe second one worked for me and haven't had probs since :)08:26
MilhousePunkRockI might get am Palm some day again, that's when Kontact will come in handy again...08:27
dregorthya those are pretty handy08:27
dregorthi prolly won't get one for a while tho as i wouldn't have much of a need for one nowadays08:27
MilhousePunkRockIs there any chance to sync a PocketPC with linux at all?08:27
dregorthi'm sure it's plausible somehow but have no idea heh08:28
MilhousePunkRockdregorth: How much of the stuff we have do we really need?08:28
dregorthnot much lol08:28
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MilhousePunkRockdregorth: I might use a palm as a remote control for Amarok on my desktop with bluetooth... :D08:31
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krautmoin08:36
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dregorthMilhousePunkRock: that'd be awesome. never thought of doing that before :D08:37
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dregorthi had a palm a few years ago (pretty darn old one too) and i used it as a remote for the tv hehe08:38
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dregorthgood ol' IR08:38
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MilhousePunkRockdregorth: I saw a plugin/skript for Amarok that would enable a web interface controllable via http08:39
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dregorthMilhousePunkRock: wow there is so much i've yet to learn about amarok lol08:40
dregorthjust more reason to complete my move to strictly feisty08:40
dregorthand take away the xp partition to feed to it :D08:41
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nbcbhi i just bought a razor optical 7 buttons, how do i configure the 7 buttons, or must i install any drivers for it?08:46
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dregorthMilhousePunkRock: well time for me to get goin. good talking with ya! :D08:48
MilhousePunkRockdregorth: I am about to leave too... Have a good one, tty next time08:48
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bulwynkl!mdadm08:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mdadm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:55
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plugsIf i cut the number-pad section of my keyboard off, will the rest still work?08:58
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baudthiefplugs: yep08:59
baudthiefwell depends how clean the cut is, but yep09:00
plugshmm...09:00
_doswellamyrose,do you know  about Linux installation stuff?09:00
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plugsthanx baudthief09:00
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baudthiefnp09:00
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bulwynklhey all, I've got a failed upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 - what are my options? can I reinstall kubuntu from the CDs while keeping my userland settings? Or do I need to do a fresh install somewhere else (I was going to add another 300GB disk anyway). if the latter, how do I backup and restore my stuff so that I have as little reconfiguration to do as possible?09:01
bulwynklany hints would be appreciated09:01
bulwynkl!reinstall09:01
ubotuTo renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages09:01
AmyRose!rules | _doswell09:01
ubotu_doswell: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines09:01
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_doswellok, i don't understand09:02
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baudthiefbulwynkl: heh I'm giving up, too many issues I cant find answers to with ubuntu (severe video tearing even when vsync/vblank is enabled (makes it impossible to watch vids), clipboard clears when app is closed (really annoying!), VERY poor network performance, any fullscreen games randomly crash out of fullscreen, etc)09:03
baudthiefmight just move back to windows :(09:03
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baudthiefI'm really gonna miss beryl, evolution and eyecandy though09:04
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Admiral_Chicagobaudthief: what problems are you having09:07
Admiral_Chicagoah i see09:07
Admiral_Chicagoperhaps related to your video card on some of them09:07
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_doswellanyone, Iinstalled edubuntu  80% the other day, but"low memory mode"came up. I shut down the install,then my whole system went blank09:07
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i don't sleep...09:07
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: teach me how to do that please!!!!09:08
baudthiefAdmiral_Chicago: Funny though, I actually bought this card specifically to run ubuntu :p09:08
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Jucatosleep is so counterproductive..09:08
Admiral_Chicagohaha, i dunno, i'm a night person really09:09
Admiral_Chicagobaudthief: what video card?09:09
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: I seem to be a late afternoon to early night person :/09:09
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_doswelluboto, where are these rules?09:10
Jucato!ubotu | _doswell09:10
ubotu_doswell: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:10
baudthiefAdmiral_Chicago:  nVidia 7600GS09:10
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baudthiefhad an ATi X700 before that I couldn't get to work well with feisty + beryl, so I threw it out and bought a nVidia heh09:11
Admiral_Chicagodo you use the nvidia driver...ah yes probably for beryl09:11
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Admiral_Chicagohmm i have a Fx 5200 that runs perfectly...09:11
Admiral_Chicagowell not perfectly but i have no probel09:12
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Admiral_Chicagobaudthief: sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg09:12
Admiral_Chicagodid you ever run that? it may help09:12
baudthiefAdmiral_Chicago: never tried, what if it breaks the install?09:12
Jucatoit won't break the install. worst thing that could happen is that X won't get back up, but that can be easily solved too.09:13
Admiral_Chicagoit wont09:13
Jucatodon't you just love modularity? :)09:13
hangthedjbaudthief: backup your xorg.conf09:13
baudthiefalright backed up, gonna give it a shot09:14
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baudthiefIt's asking for the x-server driver, do I just select nvidia?09:15
_doswellamyrose, where are oyur rules?09:15
_doswellyour09:15
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AmyRose[02:17]  <-- _doswell has left this channel ("Konversation terminated!"). <-- :)09:18
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JucatoAmyRose: hm?09:19
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AmyRoseJucato: He was annoying me ;)09:19
Jucatoer where? didn't see it in the channel09:19
KevinAlaskaI am always annoying you.. ;P09:19
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KevinAlaskaspeaking of annoying you.. :)09:20
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KevinAlaskawhat is the easist way to format and mount a HDD in Kubuntu that is currently formated NTFS and is internal IDE2 master? :)09:21
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Admiral_Chicagobaudthief: yes09:21
Admiral_Chicagosorry i didn't see it09:21
JucatoKevinAlaska: QtParted or GParted.09:22
KevinAlaskaohhh.. okay.. I think I have that installed. :)09:22
KevinAlaskabe back in a few... :)  and thanks again!  (((walks to other puter)))09:22
baudthiefAdmiral_Chicago: finished reconfiguring, do I just restart and test?09:23
baudthiefto be safe I manually entered all the technical specs of the monitor (horizontal / vertical scan rates, etc)09:24
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hangthedjbaudthief: you should just be able to do (control+alt+backspace) to restart X09:25
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baudthiefalright, trying, wish me luck!09:26
Admiral_Chicagoyea do that09:26
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KevinAlaskawoot.. thank you Jucato... if you had a dime for each time you helped me.. you would ... be able to go to lunch .... in maybe another week.. :)  anyhow.. you have helped alot! Thank you again! ;)09:28
Jucatoheh you're welcome :)09:28
Admiral_ChicagoKevinAlaska: Jucato is really a very intelligent robot.09:28
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: but you can paypal me some dimes if you wish :)09:29
Jucatoheh you're welcome :)09:29
Jucatoheh you're welcome :)09:29
KevinAlaskalol.. yeah.. where can I get a robot like that for my own?! sharper image?09:29
Admiral_Chicagoyes.09:29
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baudthiefNo luck :(09:31
baudthiefit actually broke beryl, video tearing was far worse (even when just dragging windows)09:31
flakewhy is no one using fedora09:31
baudthiefso I restored xorg.conf and I'm now back to square109:31
flakemaybe i'm exaggerating09:31
n8k99flake ask that in #fedora09:31
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Admiral_Chicagoyum is probably part of the reason...09:32
flakedid it turn yucky09:32
Admiral_Chicagoit has been in under heavy development for a while though09:32
hangthedjhow come yum takes like an hour to resolve dependencies?09:33
baudthiefflake: all window decorations disappeared, just left with white frameborders, nothing is draggable, and the console window is just a white box that doesnt allow interaction09:33
flakei was just curious, i look at the distrowatch and see it faalling09:34
baudthiefor was that question not directed at me :p09:34
Admiral_Chicagobaudthief: look at the beryl page, they have options for fixing it..09:34
Admiral_Chicagolet me grab the link09:34
Admiral_Chicagobaudthief: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia#My_windows_don.27t_have_any_decorations_.28title_bar.2C_resize_handles.2C_minimize.2Fmaximize.2Fclose_buttons.2909:35
baudthiefAdmiral_Chicago: Used that article to fix it a while ago, the borders were restored by the video tearing still remains (which is the main problem, I can't watch videos or anything)09:36
baudthief*but the09:36
baudthiefproblem is still there even when beryl isn't used09:36
Admiral_Chicagowhat do you mean video tearing?09:36
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hangthedjwhat video engine are you using?09:37
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baudthiefwhen you move windows sideways, or you play a video with a fast action scene, it's "torn" - a bit hard to explain, it's like you've cut the bottom half of the screen, and moved it 20px to the left (or random px)09:37
baudthiefhangthedj: glx09:38
Admiral_Chicagobaudthief: no you probably use xine...09:38
baudthiefoh sorry, didn't understand the question09:39
Admiral_Chicagooh i see what you mean...09:39
ph8can anyone tell me how to add startup programs like beryl-manager to my session? I can't find the option anywhere!09:39
baudthiefit's not just video playback though, it's everything09:39
Admiral_Chicagoph8: ~/.kde/Autostart09:39
ph8thx09:39
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baudthiefheh looks like there really is no solution ;\09:40
ph8Admiral_Chicago: I have nothing in there right now - how do the files need to be formatted?09:40
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Admiral_Chicagoyou create a link09:40
ph8ln -s to the exe?09:40
hangthedjor a script09:40
ph8the executable rather :p09:40
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Admiral_Chicagoph8: you can do it graphically...09:41
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: maybe baudthief needs to set his default depth down?09:41
Admiral_Chicago!autostart09:41
ubotuTo make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.09:42
Admiral_Chicagohmm, no link to a page...09:42
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Tm_Thi kids09:42
baudthiefAdmiral_Chicago: tried changing the depth repeatedly09:42
Admiral_Chicagohey there Tm_T09:42
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Admiral_Chicagoreally? to 1609:42
baudthiefchanged resolutions, sync settings, pretty much everything!09:43
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baudthiefyup tried 16, even if that worked, it's a bit of a waste to keep it at 16bpp!09:43
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baudthiefI want to try one last option before giving up09:46
baudthiefA *COMPLETE* re-install of everything. But I want a way to restore everything, is there a decent "ghost" substitute for linux?09:46
baudthief*in case it doesnt work out09:46
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baudthiefit took me ages to get to this point, heaps of little tweaks to get everything up and running09:47
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: sorry kinda busy. not sure about the default depth09:47
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Admiral_Chicagobaudthief: there is away...09:49
Admiral_Chicagowell to restore your installed programs...09:49
Admiral_Chicagogive me a second...09:50
baudthiefheh i'm more worried about the printer drivers etc, they were a pain ;\09:50
baudthiefthanks09:50
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Admiral_Chicagobaudthief: http://j1m.net/chi-ubuntu/2007/05/12/ok-instead-of-apt-on-cd/09:51
Admiral_Chicagothat is a good way to restore your packages.09:52
Admiral_Chicagoas for the printer drivers, not sure09:52
baudthiefthat's a start! thanks09:52
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Admiral_Chicagogood luck, sorry i can't be of more help, i have a program to churn out09:53
baudthiefheh no worries, I gotta think about it carefully ;\09:53
baudthiefthanks for your time09:54
Admiral_Chicagonp09:54
hangthedjyou could just back them up manually, i think the directory is /usr/share/ppd09:55
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Timsenhi, i use feisty and need to use the mysql-server-4.1, I installed that package but the version shows me that it uses the version 5.010:01
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premier_could somebody recomend a dvd ripping program? I've tried dvd::rip and acid rip10:04
hangthedj!k9copy10:04
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs10:04
hangthedjTimsen: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-4.110:05
Timsenyes I installed the package already but how can I explicitly use it10:06
Timsenif I check the version of the running server it shows me the 5.010:06
premier_lol, the "cancel" button says "annuler"... is this a german program?10:07
hangthedjpremier_: yes but the rest is in english10:07
_4strOpremier_: it's french ;)10:07
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flowingfire.10:08
premier_hangthedj: its no big deal, I just think its cool... I'm using an international operating system10:08
hangthedjTimsen: sorry read the original question to fast. it looks the mysql-server package is 5.0 so maybe try apt-get remove mysql-server mysql-server-5.0 && apt-get install mysql-server-4.1? i'm not sure.10:09
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premier_hey, my external taskbar just disappeared10:11
premier_It happened once before, I have no idea why10:11
flowingfirePremier-- funny... I'm using an operating system with a South African name programmed by people all over the world that isn't subject to the patent laws of my country. lovely. :)10:11
=== flowingfire thinks that's what makes Ubuntu so special... and Fedora/Suse such a pain in the ass.
premier_flowingfire: really?  I'm using an American OS, because I'm an American!  Only an American OS can do things like Ubuntu can!10:12
premier_you should use an American OS10:12
flowingfireLOL10:13
hangthedj!ubuntu10:13
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com10:13
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premier_okay, thats weird... now my external taskbar is on top of my regular taskbar10:14
premier_I'm sorry, but kde needs to replace kicker... I can't wait until kde4 betas start coming out10:14
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flowingfirekde4 .... yum...10:14
flowingfirei mean apt-get10:14
flowingfirelol10:15
premier_!botsnack10:15
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!10:15
flowingfirehahahahaaha10:15
premier_ubotu is so fun, watch this10:15
premier_!bill gates10:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bill gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:15
premier_!anything10:15
flowingfiregawd c:/dos.  c:/dos run.10:15
ubotuSo, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.10:15
_4strO;o10:16
Jucato!botabuse | premier_10:16
ubotupremier_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...10:16
flowingfireROTFL10:16
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premier_flowing fire, you should message ubotu and say everything I said... for some reason ubotu messaged me saying he wasn't smart10:17
elcucohi, whats the shortcut for katapult?10:17
flowingfireheh.10:17
_4strOalt-space10:17
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elcuco that is the window menu, kwin10:17
flowingfire!sex10:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:17
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_4strOunluck10:18
Jucatoelcuco: then you have probably changed the default. Alt+F3 is the window menu10:18
JucatoAlt+Space is for Katapult10:18
elcucohow do i change the shortcut for katapult?10:18
Jucatoelcuco: Alt+Space no longer launches it?10:18
jeanhello10:19
_4strO!upgrade10:19
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)10:19
elcucono, not even after i changed the shortcut for the window menu back to alt+f310:19
flowingfire!repositories10:19
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu10:19
jeanis there a way to clean the internet data of konqueror like in firefox?10:20
Jucatoelcuco: press alt+f2, type in "dcop katapult Katapult showLauncher" then press Ctrl+C10:20
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KevinAlaskaKELP!  I mean HELP!  when I get a permission denied on a 'sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/backup' what could be the problem there? :S10:21
elcucoi needed to restart katapul, now it does work10:21
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Jucatook10:22
KevinAlaskaok.... humm?  something following that 'ok' word? :)10:22
_4strOKevinAlaska: we need more information10:23
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KevinAlaskalike some kind of glorous moment of linux wisdom ...10:23
Jucatoer was responding to elcuco :)10:23
KevinAlaskathere it is.. I KNEW it! :)10:23
Jucatowhat is?10:23
KevinAlaskaahh.. heh. sorry. :P10:23
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JucatoKevinAlaska: like what _4strO said, more info would be nice10:24
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KevinAlaskaI am growing with a dependency on you for help.. you know you can never take time off off of here.... you know that right!?  :P10:24
KevinAlaskahow can I get that info?10:24
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KevinAlaskadid that QTparted .. primary partition and only one partition on there.. ext 310:25
ltb_emonkeymorghn10:25
KevinAlaskalabeled backup10:25
Jucatohm..10:25
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maetzjeHoi! Mann, is das so dmlich. Kein Download-Link fr aMSN funzt...10:26
maetzjeHat jemand was funktionierendes?10:26
_4strO!de | maetzje10:26
ubotumaetzje: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de10:26
KevinAlaskasweet.. ubotu speaks german. :)10:27
_4strOKevinAlaska: did you do something about the user and group management ?10:27
hangthedj!us10:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about us - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:27
maetzjeUh, sorry :) I do not found a functional aMSN-Download-Link.10:27
maetzjeF...10:27
KevinAlaskaNoo o o  o  o    o.... do not think so ever.10:27
maetzjeBut this is not soooo important.10:27
_4strOmaetzje: sudo apt-get install amsn ?10:28
maetzjeI want just to try "Konversation" :)10:28
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maetzjeOh.. uh.. h... i want to see... moment.10:28
smithwHello everyone... I'm trying to get a resolution of 1280x960 on my 15" monitor on my newly installed Kubuntu 7.04, but that has been a nightmare. The drivers are OK (xorg's log reports even direct rendering working), I know for a fact that the monitor supports it (windows and another linux distros have suceeded), but I tried half a dozen different modelines and none of them have worked. I have set UseEDID to False, and I can provide xorg10:28
smithw's log if needed (although it just reports that the resolution is not "validated"). Any thoughts?10:28
chijinsmithw: ati card?10:29
maetzjeOH no... i am so stupid. Thx @ _4str010:29
smithwchijin, nope, nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 on a lg studioworks 560n...10:29
_4strOyw10:29
maetzjeI am a typical Windows-user.10:29
KevinAlaskasmithw.. I had GREAT luck with he program called Envy .. works on ATI and nVidia10:29
_4strOsmithw: have you look into your xorg.conf ?10:29
maetzjeBut i am not unhealby10:29
chijinsmithw: i know some people with an ati card have had trouble setting the 1280x960 and finally failing at it.. it has something to do with the xorg 7.2 and maybe the drivers too10:30
smithwKevinAlaska, I'll google it...10:30
KevinAlaskaI can get the address.. i have it here.. one sec10:30
KevinAlaskasmithw it is www.albertomilone.com10:31
smithw_4strO, I've have severely changed it... Tried half a dozen modelines calculators, all of them provided different results and none suceeded.10:31
maetzje#logout10:31
KevinAlaskaI googled a website that gave me a nice walk through on it a test drive if you will.. was on the first page of the google search10:31
smithwchijin, well... guess I'm lucky to use a nvidia card, then...10:31
_4strOsmithw: can you paste the file ?10:32
smithwKevinAlaska, Thanks!10:32
smithw_4strO, yep. which pastebin?10:32
KevinAlaskabest of luck on it10:32
_4strO!paste10:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:32
KevinAlaskaI was inpressed with it.10:32
chijinsmithw: that issue might be there with a nvidia card too :P10:33
smithw_4strO, ok... I'll be back in two minutes, I'll start X on a 1024x768 resolution and come back from there (I'm on another computer right now)10:33
_4strOok10:33
KevinAlaskajucato, any ideas... actually I am thinking of just logging in for the night and getting a full nights sleep for the first time this week.. so I will just do that.. thank you everone and best wishes on your trouble shooting10:34
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smithwchijin, I pray to heavens for you to be wrong... :p10:34
smithwbrb10:34
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pawitpsmithw, I have a mx 440 right next to me10:37
smithw!paste10:38
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:38
smithwpawitp: do you know a 1280x960 modeline that works on a 15" monitor?10:40
smithw_4strO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23557/10:40
pawitpsmithw: I'm trying to find a working 32bit Ubuntu CD10:41
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pawitpand when I find one, I found out that it is an alternative cd10:41
_4strOsmithw: did you try without the HorizSync and VertRefresh ?10:42
smithwpawitp: where are you looking for?10:42
smithw_4strO: yes... and then, instead of 1024x768, I get 640x480.10:42
_4strOweird10:43
pawitpsmithw: A ubuntu live cd10:43
smithwpawitp: I know there's something I'm overlooking and that will make me look stupid, but... Why don't you just download it?10:44
pawitpCause you will resolve the problem before I finish10:44
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smithwpawitp: what is it that the one (ones?) you have doesn't (don't?) work? or do you only have the alternative cd?10:46
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pawitp   I have the 64bit CD10:46
smithw_4strO: the commented out modelines are the ones I tried without success...10:47
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pawitpTry commenting out ALL the modelines10:48
smithwpawitp: to see if there's a "default" one?10:49
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baudthiefOk, I think i've backed up pretty much everything. I've been running Ubuntu Fesity (gnome) with Beryl + nvida drivers for a while, i'd like to try Kubuntu Fesity this time around. Can anyone recommend a tutorial in setting up Beryl on Kubuntu Fesity with NVidia drivers?10:50
smithwI have an idea... brb.10:50
baudthief(This is going to be a complete reinstall, having severe problems with video etc)10:50
_4strObaudthief: i think you will not having much problem10:52
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smithwHa! It worked. HorizSync was out of range.10:52
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Jucato!beryl | baudthief10:52
ubotubaudthief: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects10:53
smithwChanging the range on xorg.conf solved it.10:53
_4strOthe range ?10:53
_4strOof ?10:53
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smithwHorizSync10:54
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_4strO:)10:54
_4strOdidn't see above :p10:54
etokuraHow can I mount my physical hard drive from within a virtual OS session?10:54
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smithw_4strO: I just checked the comment generated by the modeline generator, and I had overlooked it used a horizsync of 59... Since I was also limiting it to 51 on xorg.conf, there was no way it could work :)10:55
Admiral_Chicagoetokura: i don't think you can...10:55
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_4strOsmithw: yes of course, i didn't notice it10:55
Admiral_Chicagoetokura: don't take my word for it, i don't playwith virtualization yet...10:55
Jucatog'night Admiral_Chicago!10:55
pawitpetokura: Mount a nfs drive should be possible10:56
Admiral_Chicagonight Jucato . i should be back in10:56
pawitpetokura: or samba10:56
Admiral_Chicago~ 6 hrs ...10:56
etokuraHmm10:56
ablyssetokura: i use samba10:56
Jucatoheh :)10:56
_4strO6 hours ... not very much :p10:56
smithwWell... That makes it Kubuntu Tools 0 x 2 CLI. Both wifi and video card required some CLI editing, rather than relying on the tools provided...10:56
etokuraI'll try10:57
ltb_emonkeygreets from the kubuntu-de.org team at the LinuxTag in Berlin: http://webcam.kubuntu-de.org/images/img_4963.jpg10:57
baudthiefhope KDE gives the same warm fuzzy feeluing as Gnome ;\10:57
baudthief*feeling10:57
MaTiAzFuzzy?10:57
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baudthiefgnomes are fuzzy10:58
ablysslol10:58
Jucatowoot ltb_emonkey!10:58
hangthedjkde is like gnome plus configuration options.10:58
ablyssyou sure your talking about gnomes now, lol10:58
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baudthiefabys: come to think of it, no lol10:58
baudthief*ablyss10:58
smithwI've always been a KDE fan, since my first linux experience in 1999... But I have to admit, Gnome is getting kinda pretty. But like I'm never be confortable in emacs, I'm sticking with KDE.10:59
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astan_hello folks. should xrandr "just work" on latest kubuntu? i have a laptop (intel graphics) capable of 1280x800, and i would like the display to resize to 1280x1024 when i plug in my external TFT.10:59
astan_is there any applet or something in KDE to control xrandr btw?11:00
ablyssi never heard of xrandr, sorry11:00
astan_the laptop is home atm, so i can't fiddle around, but i thought i'd ask here first.11:00
david_what is the first entry (#) in /etc/crontab11:00
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_4strOastan_: did you look in : K / system settings / monitor & display11:00
astan_ablyss: okay. it's a X extension for resizing and scaling the resolution.11:00
_4strOor something like this11:00
ablyssdavid_: that's a hash sign #... your write comments after it11:01
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baudthiefsmithw: Heh this is my first time completely switching to linux from windows, started with gnome - sorta got the hang of it, but i've got some irresolvable issues (possibly not gnome related) - but I hear of people that switched to a complete Kubuntu install and it solved their problems with video tearing etc (I know they're just desktop environments, but I dunno, maybe default config options are different)11:01
ablyssdavid_: safe to delete in *most* scripts11:01
david_In the other entries there are number for ex:11:01
astan__4strO: ah. i haven't tried anything yet since the laptop is at home, just curious if people are using xrandr successfully with a similar setup (laptop + ext. tft).11:01
_4strOdavid_: the lines with a # in the beginning are comments11:02
ablyssdavid_: yep.. comments/examples11:02
david_ahh... sorry.... stupid question... thanks though. just clicked that the # is to rem out the m h dom mon dow user command.... How stupid... thanks for the help though.11:02
smithwbaudthief: I don't quite get what you mean by "video tearing" (I'm not a native English speaker)... Do you mean video card problems or video playback issues?11:03
ablyssin scripts the hash sign denotes what scripting lanaguage should run the script... like #!/usr/bin/perl or #!/usr/bin/ruby or #!/bin/bash11:03
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ablyssbut just on the first line usually11:03
smithwDoes anyone know if the kxdocker package issues have been worked out? Last time I tried installing it from the repositories, it just didn't work (c). I only got it running by compiling it (and I don't feel like doing that again right now)...11:05
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kain_i am having wifi issues11:06
pawitpsmithw: I don't use the kxdocker, try katapult(different thing)11:07
kain_on some networks my card connects on others it doesn't (mainly my gf's network) no WEP or anything11:07
pawitpsmithw: Press alt+space and type a letter11:07
pawitpsmithw: It does calculator as well11:08
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kain_it seems to lag around 28% during the configuring device stage 1 and sometimes/rarely 57% Aquiring IP stage 211:08
smithwpawitp: Does it have "task manager" function as well?11:08
smithwthat was the killer feature for me to choose kxdocker...11:08
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thorhello there all how are you doing to day11:09
thorwho's the goto guy here in kubuntu11:09
thorI need some help11:09
thor:D11:09
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pawitpsmithw: Unfortunately it doesn't11:10
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smithwand FYI, yes, kxdocker package still broken...11:10
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=== pawitp apt-get install kxdocker
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pawitpsmithw: file a bug report11:10
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smithwpawitp: I don't think it would work... Last time, I checked the trac system (or is it bugzilla? don't remember right now) and there already was a bug report filed... Moderators said it was being "worked out", but look like there's been no improvement since then.11:11
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pawitpsmithw: It's the launchpad system11:12
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smithwpawitp: and as far as I can tell, the one thing missing is the main configuration file... googleing it then returned pretty useless results. I guess I'll just mail the working one I have on my job to me and see if that works.11:13
thorhelp help help help help11:13
smithw*to myself11:14
pawitpsmithw: I'll file a bug report and see11:14
smithwkxdocker: WARNING: Warning user, backup, system configurations are corrupt! please install right kxdocker_conf.xml11:14
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smithwpawitp: it may help...11:14
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thorthis server is anoiing11:15
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smithwIs there an equivalente of beagle/spotlight for KDE?11:15
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pawitpsmithw: It's there just empty11:15
smithw*equivalent11:15
Jucatosmithw: there's kerry, which is a KDE frontend for Beagle11:16
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Jucatothere's also Strigi in development, but more for KDE 411:16
smithwpawitp: yes... and empty doesn't help...11:16
smithwJucato: thanks!11:16
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pawitpsmithw: I'm bumping some bug reports11:18
smithwpawitp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kxdocker/+bug/89747 <- this is the one I found last time, first result for googleing kxdocker_conf.xml... Is this the one you're bumping?11:19
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pawitpsmithw: I'll find the best one11:21
smithwpawitp: ok! thank you!11:22
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pawitpsmithw: Which is that one, it's a regression afaik11:23
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smithwpawitp: a regression?11:23
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pawitpIt was fixed but now it doesn't work again11:24
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smithwpawitp: ahhh... I can sympathize with that. People sometimes laugh at me when I say computers are living beings, but trust me, they are... :p11:25
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smithwpawitp: there's one more problem to it... most of the plugins are missing...11:27
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pawitpsmithw: Better get it working first11:28
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smithwpawitp: I found a config file from kxdocker developer site. And now it reports all of the plugins missing... I thought that should be installed by kxdocker-data or there should be a kxdocker-plugins package... But it seems the developer dropped kxdocker for a new project (xqde)11:31
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asfakany help on how to create repo on local hard disk. i have large deb package from my laptop kubuntu /var/cache/apt and want to install them on other pc11:31
smithwand I officially give up...11:32
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asfaksmithw, was that my reply?11:33
smithwasfak: Nope... Unfortunately, I have absolutely no idea on how to set up a repository...11:33
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smithwInstalling Beryl on Kubuntu is just adding the repositories and apt-getting or is there something else to it?11:40
Tm_T!beryl11:40
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects11:40
_4strOsmithw: if you have direct rendering on, think just adding beryl and emerald will be enough11:41
hyumathere is a button on kubuntu like "show desktop" on w$ ?11:42
smithw_4strO: yes, direct rendering is ok, so let's see if I can get it working!11:42
Tm_Thyuma: what icon is next of blue K-square in bottom left corner?11:42
hyumaTm_T: system menu11:43
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Tm_Thyuma: and next to it?11:44
hyumakonqueror --> kontact11:44
hyumaI haven't11:44
Tm_TI wonder, there should be "show desktop" icon right there11:44
hyumadude I haven't11:45
Tm_Tyou haven't what?11:45
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hyumashow desktop icon11:45
Tm_Tok, then rightclick panel and add it11:45
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hyumaTm_T: can't find this button11:54
dregorthhyuma: right click panel >>> panel menu >>> add applet to panel... >>> show desktop11:54
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hyumathank you dregorth11:54
dregorthnp hyuma11:55
dregorth:)11:55
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hyumaI've checked all config about tarball11:55
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dregorthwhat's the prob?11:56
teezetthas someone experiences to get RubyTk or RubyQt running?11:57
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dregorthteezett: no sorry11:57
teezetti have tk and ruby, but a "require 'tk'" does not work in a ruby script11:58
dregorthmmm wish i could help ya :(11:58
dregorthnever used ruby before11:58
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teezettyou should try, it's great12:00
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brendonjthey who uses keep here12:02
dregorthteezett: i just might have to sometime. right now i'm gonna start learning python :D12:02
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SunStealthHey, guys, do you know a good C++ compiler? Are there any that supports gui? Well, as long it is good, by other words is good by giving out information where things goes wrong and the the dubugger is good and the c++ compiler has good detailed man information about what you can do. New to programming in linux enviroment12:02
teezettok, i skipped python - i walked from perl directly to ruby12:03
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smithwAlmost there. Aquamarine seems to be with some trouble...12:04
teezettSunStealth: in linux there are only the GNU and the intel compiler useful12:04
Noiseconformistmorning! I'm running 7.04 with an Windoze-Domain. How can I print on one of printers on the windows server?12:04
JucatoSunStealth: GCC (The GNU Compiler Collection)12:04
MaTiAzGCC is simply awesome :)12:04
JucatoSunStealth: install build-essential to get it. you might want to install gdb too for debugging12:04
dregorthteezett: ahhh. this is going to be my first language that i'll actually be able to spend a lot of time on instead of just hardly taking the time to learn one :P12:05
SunStealthAlright peeps, installing right away12:05
dregorthteezett: or not being able to take the time to learn one for that matter hehe12:05
teezettdregorth: learning by using is the best way anyhow12:05
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MaTiAzSunStealth: Kate is a good editor for coding, it also has the oh-so-lovely integrated terminal :)12:06
teezettSunStealth: for the GUI try Qt - is has a quite good object oriented interface12:06
SunStealthk12:07
dregorthteezett: definitely12:07
SunStealthWell, I am used to Visual Studio and have done object orientated programming for a few months, I hate Windows, so instable and it just drive u nuts, lol.12:08
SunStealthunstable*12:08
MaTiAzWindows (post-98) has always been stable for me :P12:08
MaTiAzExcept when playing games with my broken Radeon 9600XT which gave me bluescreens - almost12:09
teezettsunstealth: then you will like Qt - its much more convenient than visual studio12:09
SunStealthNever, u always have to reformat once a month, the only stable windows u can run, is a virtual one in vmware12:09
SunStealthok12:09
SunStealthty12:09
MaTiAzSunStealth: uh, what are you doing to your computer if you can't have Windows working without reformatting once a month?12:10
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MaTiAzTBH I've never formatted my XP partition after installing it in 2004 :P12:10
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SunStealthNo, lol. I am not saying that it isnt working, but the viruses these days, and that you basically let the windows do whatever it want without your permission is crazy12:11
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serciki need help with cool quiet on linux12:11
MaTiAzI'm perfectly fine with both, Linux and Windows :)12:12
SunStealthHow do I install Qt teezett?12:12
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Tm_TSunStealth: install what?12:13
SunStealthQt - object orientated programming face (gui) want to try it out12:15
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SunStealthhave gcc installed and such, going to get acquainted with c++ oop in linux enviroment12:15
teezettsunstealth: i do not know the exactly package, just try "apt-cache search qt"12:16
Tm_TSunStealth: you mean you like to install Qt ?12:16
SunStealthYes12:16
SunStealthBut how12:16
tahsincan anyone tell me how to install AmarokFS ?12:16
Tm_TSunStealth: you are using it12:16
SunStealthAm I? k.12:16
serciki need help with cool&quiet under linux12:17
Tm_TSunStealth: KDE uses Qt12:17
SunStealthHow do I start it?12:17
Tm_TSunStealth: but, do something like "sudo apt-get build-dep kate" and you have base packages to build/code KDE/Qt apps12:17
serciksomeone can help me?12:17
tahsinTm_T: how do i install amarokFS ?12:17
Tm_TSunStealth: also, you might like to install kdevelop, nice environment12:18
Tm_Ttahsin: no idea what that is12:18
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Tm_Tsercik: what is "cool&quiet" in this case?12:18
tahsinTm_T: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Theme+for+AmarokFS+-+afterc0ffee?content=5901812:18
SlimeyPeteTm_T: it's the AMD version of SpeedStep iirc12:18
Tm_Tok, no idea about speedstep or any similar, sorry12:19
sercikis a tecnoogy to change voltage and multiplier on amd12:19
SunStealthGot kdevelop, always had problem to compile it... not familiar with makeinfo and such, anyone knows a good tutorial where I can start get familiar with c++ programing in lunux enviroment?12:19
sercikSlimeyPete: can you help me?12:19
SunStealthlinux*12:19
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serciki have read about cpufreqd but i'm not able to configure it12:19
SlimeyPetesercik: not really, sorry. I know what cool&quiet is, but my laptop is an Intel, not an AMD.12:20
njt88hi guys.  i cant seem to find the eye candy in the install of feisty.... :s12:20
sercikand how can i see my cpu frequency under linux?12:20
Tm_TSunStealth: you don't have to compile kdevelop, just install it via package manager12:20
njt88sercik: cat /proc/cpuinfo12:20
serciki need to manage multiplier and voltage under linux12:20
SlimeyPetesercik: the KDE battery monitor shows it... but that'll only show up if you're on a laptop12:20
serciki'm on a desktop12:20
Tm_Ttahsin: doesn't it tell in the page?12:21
serciknjt88: it not gives me multipliers and voltage12:21
sercikbut only frequencies12:21
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tahsinTm_T: i'm a newbie so dont understant those12:22
SlimeyPetesercik: well, you can figure out the multiplier from the frequency.12:22
sercikSlimeyPete: ok but i need to manage multiplier12:22
serciki need to scale my cou under linux12:22
Tm_Ttahsin: ok, I'll try to help a bit12:22
SlimeyPetesercik: why, out of interest?12:22
tahsinTm_T: thanks12:22
sercikSlimeyPete: to mantain my cpu cooler ahen it is not stressed12:23
sercikand because i overclock12:23
SlimeyPetefair enough.12:23
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sercikand con't want to have my cpu always at maximum when i chat in konversation12:23
sercikunderstood :)12:23
SlimeyPeteyup :)12:23
Tm_Ttahsin: download this to your homedir http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0426379/amarokFS/amarokfs-qt3_0.4.2-1_i386.deb12:23
sercikso noone can help me?12:24
Tm_Ttahsin: and then browse there with filemanager, rightclick and select kubuntu menu -> install package12:24
Tm_Ttahsin: I think it should work that way12:24
SlimeyPeteI'm not sure if it can be done, tbh. Linux isn't terribly popular as a main OS amongst the hardcore hardware-geek crowd.12:24
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SunStealthI have used kdevelope before. Not sure how makeinfo and such works. Well, folks, I have to step away for a few hours, going to the university and present one of my c++ oop laboration execersise , then the big brake over the summer hs officially started. I be back later.12:25
Tm_Tsercik: maybe you have better luck in #ubuntu12:25
SlimeyPeteat least, not the subset that tend to do things like overclocking ;)12:25
njt88where do i find the desktop effects??12:25
njt88feisty12:25
serciknoone here have a athlon64??12:25
Tm_Tnjt88: you mean beryl?12:25
Tm_Tsercik: not me atleast12:25
serciksure!12:25
njt88yes sorry12:25
Tm_T!beryl | njt8812:26
ubotunjt88: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:26
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sercikit seems that ubuntu documentation lacks of this problem12:26
njt88Tm_T: thx dude12:26
Tm_Tsercik: hmm, so, if you find solution, mind to document it atleast that bit what you find out?12:26
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sercikok12:29
tahsinTm_T: can i get a gnome like panel on top of the screen ok Kubuntu ?12:31
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Tm_Ttahsin: sure, you can have "any kind of" panels and to any edge of the screen12:32
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Tm_Ttahsin: rightclick panel and configure, or, if you like to add panel, select add panel :)12:32
tahsinTm_T: how do i get the gnome like panel on top ?12:32
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dregorthanyone here program in python?12:33
Tm_Tdregorth: doing a poll?12:33
dregorthnaw12:33
Tm_Tthen I won't answer12:34
dregorthwanted to know if there is a good program to develop python programs in (such as kdevelop or something like that)12:34
dregorthi want to find a well supported one but just not sure how to go about it besides google heh12:34
Tm_Tdregorth: Kate, kdevelop, <yourfavouriteeditor>12:34
dregorthwell ty for the response Tm_T12:34
dregorth:)12:34
dregorthhad seen something called IDLE in add/remove programs so wasn't sure if that was even a good one or not12:35
Tm_Tand no, I don't program in python, atleast not yet12:35
tahsinTm_T: when i try to edit the new panel my old panel gets edited12:35
dregorthahh alright12:35
dregorthi appreciate the response12:35
Tm_Tdregorth: I just fiddle with c++ and stuff12:36
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dregorthc++ is too scary for me right now lol12:36
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Tm_Ttahsin: ah, that evil, open konsole12:36
tahsinTm_T: then12:37
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Jucatotahsin: Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart" then try again12:37
Tm_TJucato: bah12:38
JucatoTm_T: too slow :)12:38
Tm_TI'm old )(12:38
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biankaahoj je tu niekto zo slovenska12:40
davfanyone know how to change the crontab timeout?12:41
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Tm_T!sv12:41
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se12:41
Tm_Thmm, not that12:41
Tm_T!sk12:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:41
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dregorthTm_T: thanks again for the advice. i installed kdevelop and hopefully that should be a very good one to use for python. goodnight/morning (3:45am here) :)12:45
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_4strO!ntfs12:57
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:57
_4strO!ntfs-3g12:57
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions12:57
hyumaI'm using ntfs-3g if you needs12:57
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hyumaworks well12:58
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_4strOyes works well at home too ;)12:58
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Ash-Fox!truecrypt01:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:06
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Alarmis there any html ide that i can use under debian ? well not something like bluefish, i dont want to handle with source html but to be able to drag and drop buttons, radio buttons and so on01:16
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ubuntu-help-needhi guys anyone here have a chance to help me pls... urgently01:24
_4strO!ask | ubuntu-help-need01:25
ubotuubuntu-help-need: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:25
ubuntu-help-needok well here goes then01:25
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ubuntu-help-needi have a fujitsu-siemens amilo L1310G laptop, i have a dual boot system, partition 1 is Vista Ultimate, second is Ubuntu 7.0401:28
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Alarmvista ultimate ? sounds so... extreme to be true01:28
ubuntu-help-needubutnu is a fresh install, but when u get in to ubuntu my fan stops working, and eventually my machine just shuts down cos CPU gets to hot01:28
ubuntu-help-needhow do i activate the fan?01:29
Alarmfans shut down ? because of the os ? thats something i hear for the first time01:29
Alarmbtw, how are u so sure that fans stop ?01:29
ubuntu-help-needand secondly i have an RF switch that i need software for in windows, how can i kill that function or activate it?01:29
MaxdamantusIt'll be because of the power saving. :S01:29
ubuntu-help-needwell my laptop gets incredibly hot01:29
AlarmMaxdamantus,  yeah but thats when its an inactive or standby modus , not when running01:30
ubuntu-help-needwhere as if i boot in vista my laptop stays icy cold01:30
ubuntu-help-needno when its runnin for example i'l be browsing internet01:30
MaxdamantusAlarm, it saves power while running too..01:30
MaxdamantusI noticed the first time I ran *Ubuntu01:30
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Alarmsaving power yes, but switching of the fans while running doesnt sound normal to me...01:30
MaxdamantusAfter BIOS, the HDDs and fan suddenly decreases in speed. :P01:31
Alarmubuntu-help-need,  does it do that also when u dont boot in kde but stay under console also ?01:31
MaxdamantusThe power saving comes into action on boot.01:31
MaxdamantusIn an init script.01:31
Alarmwell then he should deactivate it01:31
ubuntu-help-needi dont have the KDE i think... it goes straight from loader (grub1 i think it is) then i select the ubuntu option01:32
Alarmif it causes problem. letting the fan running doesnt take so much energy anyway. needs just 2-5watt01:32
ubuntu-help-needthen in to gnome i think01:32
MaxdamantusThen that's GNOME.01:32
Alarmif u dont got kde then u dont got kubuntu ;)01:32
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ubuntu-help-needoh ok01:32
MaxdamantusGNOME = Ubuntu01:32
ubuntu-help-needwats the difference?01:32
MaxdamantusKDE is better.01:32
ubuntu-help-needlol01:33
Alarmgnome/kde different window managers01:33
MaxdamantusAlarm, incorrect.01:33
ubuntu-help-needwhere do i get KDE from?01:33
MaxdamantusThe Window manager in KDE is kwin01:33
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Maxdamantusubuntu-help-need, sudo apt-get install kde01:33
MaxdamantusWindow manager in GNOME is metacity01:33
ubuntu-help-needfrom the terminal?01:33
Alarmubuntu-help-need,  u get it while installing kubuntu , or install it manualy from the repository01:33
MaxdamantusYes.01:33
AlarmMaxdamantus,  my mistake01:33
MaxdamantusOr you could use some graphical package manager if you really want.01:34
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MaxdamantusBut then if something goes wrong, it doesn't give as detailed an explanation.01:34
Alarmubuntu-help-need,  sudo apt-get install kdm kde-base would do for u01:34
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ubuntu-help-needwhen i run "sudo apt-get install kde" do i need to be online?01:34
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MaxdamantusYes, you do.01:34
ubuntu-help-needok cool01:34
nosrednaekimIt is far better to just get "kubuntu-desktop"01:34
MaxdamantusOr, you could download it manually first.01:34
ubuntu-help-needhang 10, will let u know what happens01:35
MaxdamantusAnd put it in /var/cache/pkgs or something01:35
Alarmwhy to do it manualy ?01:35
Maxdamantus/var/cache/apt/archives/ *01:35
ubuntu-help-needwell i have to do it on my laptop, just rebooting01:35
MaxdamantusBecause he said "Do I need to be online"01:35
Alarm/var/cache/apt/archives/ *01:35
MaxdamantusI thought they were implying that it was a problem01:36
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ubuntu-help-needany ideas bout RF switch?01:36
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Alarmwell downloading it an putting it in the archive dir has to be also online :)01:36
MaxdamantusI'm the sort of person who wouldn't bother doing that thing with the fan the correct way.01:36
nosrednaekimubuntu-help-need: rf switch?the wireless switch?01:37
MaxdamantusI'd probably tape a battery to it.01:37
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ubuntu-help-needyup01:39
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ubuntu-help-needwhen i type "sudo apt-get install kdm kde-base" it comes back with an error "E: dpkg was interupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem01:41
ubuntu-help-needi run that command and it tells me i need super user privelage01:42
BluesKajyes, sudo dpkg --configure -a01:42
ubuntu-help-needok so wats the sudo for?01:43
BluesKajsuper user01:43
ubuntu-help-needoh ok01:43
ubuntu-help-needsorry man, very new to all this01:43
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BluesKajsuper user do...I think :)01:43
ubuntu-help-needhehe01:44
BluesKajyup, we all were once ...it's been 9mos for me ...still a reltive noob in many ways01:44
ubuntu-help-needMaxdamantus ok it says "Couldn't find package kde-base01:45
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ubuntu-help-needok nm i think01:46
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BluesKajubuntu-help-need, sudo apt-get install kde-base01:51
ubuntu-help-needcant find package01:52
BluesKajright01:52
BluesKajok, just kde01:52
ubuntu-help-needgreat its workin like a charm01:53
BluesKajit'sll take a while if haven't run it01:53
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ubuntu-help-needyeah like 5 min01:53
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M_Fatihhi01:53
M_Fatihthere some "kwin effects" videos in youtube, what is that? will kwin do this effects in kde4? effects seems like beryl's, is this compiz,xgl thing? or kde4's new feature?01:53
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BluesKajget a coffee or a cold beer or whatever meets your fancy ...it'll take a while01:54
nosrednaekim5 minutes to get kde? ahh... what a dream.01:54
nosrednaekimthats for kde401:54
BluesKaj!kde401:54
ubotuFor information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org01:54
nosrednaekimyeah.. that article written by troy Unrau was pretty interesting01:55
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baudthiefWohoo! Kubuntu rocks! No more video tearing issues :D01:56
Tm_TBluesKaj: howdy!01:56
serciki have issues with cool & quiet01:56
BluesKajhi Tm_T :) ...what's up ?01:56
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Tm_Tpants up01:57
Tm_Tbaudthief: watch that language01:57
baudthief:(01:57
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BluesKajwe're havin a heat wave here ...32C and 90% humidity ....we northern ontario ppl are getting more amd more of this terrible yukky weather01:58
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Tm_TBluesKaj: aww, that sounds sweet, I mean sweat02:00
BluesKajhehe02:00
Tm_Tfirst was heavy rains, now it's clear, but quite cold, ~1202:01
Tm_Toh well, time for me to go ->02:01
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: the humidity is what kils... got to 95 F here... but it wasn't really not02:01
BluesKajstrange that i can't have yuy2 layering and 3D on my graphics card simultaneously02:02
nosrednaekimyuy2?02:02
BluesKaj95F is hot even without huumidity in my experience02:03
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ubuntu-help-needhey man we are suffering with 20 C02:04
BluesKajyes nosrednaekim , it's for tv veiwing ...the tv tuner sends the signal to the graphics card which is supposed to apply the yuy2 layering ...but don't ask me what that means :)02:04
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: ah.. ok... the humidity was like 25% so you couldn't even sweat if you wanted to (not that I did)02:05
amigappchello ladys02:05
amigappcwhat can i do if i need help02:05
BluesKajwhere you nosrednaekim, ubuntu-help-need ?02:06
BluesKajwhere are02:06
ubuntu-help-needi are here02:06
BluesKajwhich is?02:06
ubuntu-help-needsorry man, doing web development02:06
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nosrednaekimNew Jersey USA02:06
ubuntu-help-needZA02:06
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BluesKajNorthern Ontario (Lake Huron) shore ... Canada02:07
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amigappc|need|adlet me cry in the channel ... does anyone have enough experience to teach a n00b ?02:08
nosrednaekimBluesKaj: isn't it supposed to be COLD up there? ;)02:08
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nosrednaekimamigappc|need|ad: whatcha wanna know?02:08
BluesKajI'm a bit of a geography freak , hence i need my google earth02:08
BluesKajdon't beleive everything that your tv weather ppl tell you , nosrednaekim. :)02:09
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nosrednaekimBluesKaj: I don't watch TV weather... and I was JK.02:09
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toe007Wei jemand, wie ich den Realplayer deinstalliere, der unter Feisty manuell aus der bin installiert wurde?02:10
ubuntu-help-needBluesKaj ok once kde is installed then?02:10
toe007Sorry, I meant: Does anyone know how to remove Realplayer. It was installed manually from the bin file.02:11
BluesKajok,now sudo 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' for good measure02:11
ubuntu-help-needk its busy02:11
Jucato!de | toe00702:12
ubotutoe007: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de02:12
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Dragnslcrtoe007- probably with rm02:13
DragnslcrOf course with RealPlayer, I wouldn't be surprised if formatting the disk is the only way to be sure02:13
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BluesKajsudo dpkg rm realplayer ?02:14
Jucatoer no02:14
toe007Dragnslcr - Should I just "sudo rm" the /opt with Realplayer in it? Aren't there any file settings to be reseted?02:14
Jucatorm = delete file, not uninstall02:14
BluesKajok02:14
DragnslcrJucato- well, if it was installed manually, deleting the files is probably all you can do02:14
Jucatodepends on the installer. some installers accept a --remove or --uninstall switch02:15
DragnslcrMaybe I just have an old-fashioned definition of manually02:15
BluesKajreal player is an terrible app in that sense ...like spyware in linux02:15
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DragnslcrBluesKaj - s/in linux//02:15
yeniklasor:D02:15
M_Fatihhey, will gusty with kde4?02:15
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Jucatono02:16
M_Fatihwhy :(02:16
DragnslcrM_Fatih- maybe, but it'd be pretty close02:16
DragnslcrBoth are scheduled for October02:16
M_Fatih:(02:16
DragnslcrI doubt KDE4 would be ready by the time 7.10 goes into final testing02:16
toe007I recall reading an interview with Jonathan Riddel (or so) stating KDE 4 will definitely not be in Gutsy02:17
JucatoM_Fatih: don't worry. we'll be releasing KDE 4 packages or maybe even CD's02:17
Jucatobut as addons, not official releases02:17
DragnslcrI wouldn't be surprised if they have a beta version in the repositories though02:17
DragnslcrIt just won't be the default02:17
JucatoDragnslcr: we can't have a beta version in the repos....02:17
yeniklasorWhy when I send some open windows to desktop2, windows are occur Desktop1 and Desktop2's tack manager :S Gnome is not like this :S02:17
Jucatobecause KDE 4 is still in Alpha :)02:17
DragnslcrIsn't the alpha in there now?02:17
toe007I saw KDE 4 svn on Kubuntu yesterday at the LinuxTag in Berlin. :-)02:17
M_Fatihyes. too much like 3.5 series :)02:17
DragnslcrOr was I hallucinating?02:17
M_Fatihno difference i think..02:18
JucatoDragnslcr: alpha. not beta02:18
ubuntu-help-needBluesKaj selected KDM as default desktop manager02:18
jarnyeniklasor: It's a setting. I don't like it either.02:18
M_Fatihbut there is too many features coming. i can't wait.. :)02:18
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jarnyeniklasor: If you want to change it, do this:02:18
M_Fatihyeniklasor: naber? ::D02:18
M_Fatihbu nebicim nixk02:18
DragnslcrHeh, yeah, I meant there would be a beta version when 7.10 is released02:18
DragnslcrNot right now02:18
yeniklasorjarn : how ?02:18
DragnslcrMight even be an RC when 7.10 is final02:18
yeniklasorM_Fatih : good and you :P02:18
BluesKajubuntu-help-need, yes02:19
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jarnyeniklasor: Right-click on the task manager, choose Configure Panel, go to Taskbar, uncheck "Show windows from all desktops".02:19
jarnyeniklasor: If you mean what I think you do.02:19
M_Fatihyeniklasor: biraz daha garip yapsaydin nickini? :) "New Folder" kivaminda02:19
yeniklasorjarn : Thank you02:19
BluesKajM_Fatih, what features for eg ?02:19
yeniklasorM_Fatih : Please speak English here :)02:20
jarnyeniklasor: Was that what you wanted to do?02:20
M_FatihBluesKaj: don't you watch youtube, ./ or .kde?02:20
yeniklasorjarn: yes I wanted this thanks02:20
ubuntu-help-needBluesKaj ok thats done... now?02:20
DragnslcrI just hope KDE4 has a global "remember window size and position" option02:20
BluesKajrelogin ubuntu-help-need, ctrl+alt+backspce02:21
jarnyeniklasor: Your welcome. :)02:21
M_Fatihi will be happy, if kde more clean and minimalised.02:21
M_Fatihoxygen looks very good for this..02:21
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M_Fatihwhat is oxygen's license? can i use this icons in my site?02:22
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BluesKajnot a youtube fan , i just visit the site to test the latest flash install :)02:22
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DragnslcrI can't even use YouTube02:22
yeniklasorWhat language this KDE desktop? C ?02:22
yeniklasorC++ ?02:22
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DragnslcrStupid Adobe still not knowing how to work with amd64 processors02:23
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BluesKajthere is some interesting stuff but there's alotta chaff too02:23
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Dragnslcryeniklasor- I would guess C++02:23
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DragnslcrSome of the apps might be in other languages like Perl or Python02:24
yeniklasoryeah thanks02:24
BluesKajbummer Dragnslcr, Ihave a 64bit AMD , but I opted for the x86 version due to those probs02:24
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Jucatoyeniklasor: KDE <- Qt <- C++02:24
pawitp!paste02:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:24
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DragnslcrYeah, I just got a shiny AMD X2 just for my new box to install Kubuntu on, so I figured I'd grab the shiny amd64 version to go with it02:25
pawitpCan anyone help me with this?02:25
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DragnslcrAnd I've already loaded the system with all of the x86 libraries02:26
pawitphttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23580/02:26
BluesKajit's so shiny there aren't enuff up to date apps for it02:26
Jucatoyeniklasor: but KDE is trying to encourage/push for creating apps using other languages. Our very own kde-guidance is one such example02:26
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pawitpI'm once stupid enough to hand a friend an amd64 cd02:26
BluesKajoops02:27
Ash-FoxDragnslcr, seriously, unless you have more than 3GB ram, just stick with the 32bit version.02:28
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DragnslcrAsh-Fox- yeah, I learned that after I had already installed everything02:28
pawitpDragnslr: or doing number intensive operation like encoding02:28
DragnslcrAnd I don't feel like doing it all over again02:28
pawitp64bit handles that well02:28
Ash-Foxpawitp, encoding is faster for me on 32bit.02:28
ubuntu-help-needok kubuntu is up and runnin02:29
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ubuntu-help-neednow help with the RF switch or enabling my wireless02:29
Ash-FoxBut then again, this is probably a issue from having a proccessor that isn't truely 64bit.02:29
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arty123Help guys, in my kubuntu installation i am not having any file in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ and /proc/acpi/fan/, i have unloaded and reloaded acpi and fan modules, restarted acpi apm services. What should i do to know my cpu's temperature ?02:30
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pawitp"proccessor that isn't truely 64bit" <-- what kind of processor is that?02:30
BluesKajpawitp, trying to copy/burn media ?02:30
hyumadma_timer_expiry <--- what's that on my dmesg log ?02:30
pawitpBluesKaj: yea02:31
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sercikBluesKaj: Hi! can you help me with athlon64 voltages amd multiplier??02:31
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pawitpsercik: I can02:32
BluesKajsercik, no sorry ...02:32
arty123Can somebody help me too :) ?02:32
JuJuBeeAre there any commands I can use to test ldap setup?  I just finished (i think) configuring a server and client.02:32
sercikpawitp: please!02:32
serciki suspect that kernel don't support cpu scaling02:33
pawitpsercik: what's your problem?02:33
pawitpsercik: The kernel does02:33
pawitpmodprobe powernow-k802:33
sercikif i do cat /proc/cpuinfo i don't see anything about cpu scaling02:33
serciki try!02:33
serciknow!02:33
PhinnFortsercik: try /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/02:33
arty123and i am not having any file in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ and /proc/acpi/fan/, i have unloaded and reloaded acpi and fan modules, restarted acpi apm services. What should i do to know my cpu's temperature ?02:33
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sercikthere are two subdirectories02:34
PhinnFort /proc is deprecated, use /sys02:34
pawitparty123: install lm-sensors and run "sensors"02:34
arty123it is installed02:34
pawitprun 'sensors' in terminal02:34
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pawitparty123: best idea to run 'sudo sensors-detect' first02:35
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arty123thaaaaaaaaaaaanks , i get this "k8temp-pci-00c3" ,""Adapter: PCI adapter", "Core0 Temp: 32 C"02:36
sercikwhat can i do now?02:36
PhinnFortprocrastinate?02:36
pawitpsercik: What are you trying to do?02:36
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serciki have launched module and now how can i control frequency and voltage?02:37
serciki want to verify that it works02:37
PhinnFortsercik: "echo "frequency" >> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq"02:37
PhinnFortmaybe sudo that02:38
pawitpcontrolling voltage would require cpupw02:38
PhinnFortsudo echo etc02:38
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pawitpsercik: cpupw is not in the repository02:38
pawitpsercik: so don't mess with it if you're not confident02:39
pawitpBut with cpupw, I'm running a pretty cold system02:40
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sercikpawitp: please tell me how can i see my running frequencies02:40
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PhinnFortwell, I have an athlon 64 processor, and the kernel clocks it automagically with the ondemand governor02:40
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pawitpsercik: cat /proc/cpuinfo02:41
PhinnFortsercik: more /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies02:41
sercikit tells 2200.00002:41
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pawitpPhinnFort: undervolting Athlon64 processor is very easy02:41
sercikbut this is the maximum02:41
pawitpsercik: cat /proc/cpuinfo02:41
PhinnFortsercik: what pawitp told you only tells you the current frequency02:41
sercikit seems that scaling is not working!02:41
PhinnFortsercik: what does more /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies tell you?02:42
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pawitpdidn't "running frequencies" mean "current frequiency"02:42
serciki need to read that file?02:42
PhinnFortsercik: it's not a normal file02:42
serciki need to use cat02:42
sercik??02:42
PhinnFortsercik: just run that command, and it will tell you the frequencies02:42
sercikok sorry!02:42
PhinnFortsercik: cat, less, more, whatever tickles your funny;)02:42
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sercikok sorry02:43
PhinnFortno reason to sorry02:43
sercikbut if you tell me to run?? i don't understand!02:43
PhinnFort:P02:43
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sercik2200000 2000000 1800000 100000002:43
sercik~02:43
sercikthis is the content02:43
sercikwithout ~02:43
PhinnFortsercik: thats the frequencies the kernel can switch between02:44
PhinnFortsercik: now run "more /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor"02:44
PhinnFortsercik: that tells us which governor the kernel uses to set the frequency02:44
PhinnFortI have these governors available, and I guess you have the same: userspace conservative ondemand powersave performance02:44
sercikit says performance02:45
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ubuntu-help-needBluesKaj - it looks exactly the same as before02:45
pawitpsercik: That's mean it's always maximum02:45
sercikok i begin to understand :) thanks!!02:45
pawitpecho "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor02:45
PhinnFortsercik: userspace makes you able to set it yourself through other programs, conservative is a worse version of ondemand, ondemand clocks it up and down automatically according to load, powersave always has it as low as possible and performance always as high as possible02:45
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freddi hallo ich hab mal kurz ne frage: Wei jemand nen konsolen befehl mit dem ich nachgucken kann was fr arbeitsspeicher ich habe...02:46
PhinnFortsudo echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor02:46
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sercikPhinnFort: i love you thank you very muvh!02:46
PhinnFortsudo echo "ondemand" >> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor02:46
PhinnFortsercik: yw;)02:46
sercikso i need to write only one! or all of this possibilities02:46
sercik?02:46
PhinnFortsercik: I use ondemand02:46
pawitpPhinnFort: That won't work02:46
pawitpthat's sudoing echo and writing as the user02:47
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PhinnFortmeh02:47
serciki can i use userspace and ondemad together?02:47
pawitpsercik: nope02:47
sercikso i need to choose only one?02:47
pawitpsercik: yes02:47
sercikok now i write ondemand on that file02:47
PhinnFortyes02:47
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pawitpsercik: userspace means that a programs control the value and not the kernel02:48
sercikit tells permesso negato!02:48
pawitp'sudo -i' first02:48
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BluesKajubuntu-help-need, that's a good thing :)02:48
pawitp<pawitp> that's sudoing echo and writing as the user02:48
sercikpermission denied02:49
serciki have used sudo02:49
PhinnFortsercik: run "sudo -s"02:49
PhinnFortsercik: then run "echo "ondemand" >> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor"02:49
sercikok i try02:49
serciki can't change that files02:50
PhinnFortsercik: even after sudo -s?02:50
serciktry to remove module from memory02:50
sercik??02:50
sercikyes02:50
sercikalso with root permissions02:50
PhinnFortsercik: did the command prompt change to a #02:50
PhinnFort?02:50
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PhinnFortsercik: can you run "dmesg | tail"?02:51
sercikPhinnFort: trust me i understand root and sudo02:51
PhinnFortok;)02:51
sercikhttp://pastebin.ca/52781202:52
serciktis is the output02:52
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PhinnForthmm, looks normal02:53
pawitpsercik: can you paste your terminal session as well?02:53
serciki think that is needed to remove some process from memory and then try to edit that files??02:53
PhinnFortsercik: you could do kdesu kate /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" and replace the content with "ondemand" and save?02:53
PhinnFortyeah, do "lsof  /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" too02:53
sercikPhinnFort: i have already tried with vi02:53
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sercikvim02:54
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sercikhttp://pastebin.ca/52781802:54
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sercikthis is the error of vi when i try to write: http://pastebin.ca/52782002:56
pawitpwhat language is that?02:56
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sercikitalliano02:57
pawitpwhat's the error to:cat "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor02:57
sercikitalian02:57
sercikbash: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor: Permesso negato02:57
sercikpermesso negato =permission denied02:58
pawitpI mean, sudo -i first02:58
nuu!it | sercik02:58
ubotusercik: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:58
pawitprun:sudo -i02:58
pawitprun"cat "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor02:58
serciki can't!!02:58
pawitpwhat's the error?02:59
sercikit tells FSynd failed02:59
nuupawitp: sudo echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor02:59
sercikit seems that the file is in use when i try to write on it02:59
sercikit seems that another process write or access to that files02:59
sercikalso if i'm root03:00
pawitpnuu: You don't seem to understand that the command you posted doesn't you03:00
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nuupawitp: i'm sorry ?03:00
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sercikpawitp: i understand03:01
sercikdo you want to try you with ssh03:01
sercik??03:01
serciki can give you my ip!03:01
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sercikno you can't!! i have  a router!03:02
serciknow i need to help my cousin to do a website we speak later!03:02
sercikthank you very muvh and goodbye03:02
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ubuntu-help-needanyone here know kubuntu very well??03:05
MinceRwhat's the most reliable repo to get qtcurve from?03:05
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yeniklasor! anyone03:15
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ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:15
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frank__how about kplato?03:18
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Dekkardwow03:29
gobanwhats a fast dvd ripping program?03:30
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SlimeyPetedvd::rip can be fairly quick03:30
tdnI have a Thinkpad T42 with an ATI Mobility Radeon 9600. How do I make it perform better? The default free drivers are too slow. lspci says: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 03:31
SlimeyPeteinstall the fglrx drivers via adept/synaptic03:31
tdnSlimeyPete, how? I cannot find info on this in the wiki.03:32
CyDgoban, k3b, tovid, acidrip, dvd::rip03:32
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SlimeyPetetdn: just open up Adept/Synaptic, and install the fglrx packages03:33
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Dekkardis there a quick wat to switch from gdm to kdm?03:33
Dekkardway03:33
ubuntu-help-needdoes anyone here have a FUJITSU-SIEMENS AMILO L1310G notebook, runnin kubuntu?03:33
tdnSlimeyPete, if I search in adept for fglrx, I get several packages. I do not know which ones to install.03:33
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Alarmubuntu-help-need,  still having the problem , couldnt get any help ?03:34
ubuntu-help-neednope03:34
ubuntu-help-needi need to enable my wireless man and damn am i struggling03:34
SlimeyPetetdn: you want xorg-driver-fglrx I think03:35
ubuntu-help-needunder windows i need to install something called power manager which enables the RF button03:35
tdnHow do I enable multiple instances of kate? When I do Alt+F2 > kate, it does not start a new kate, if there is already one started.03:35
tdnSlimeyPete, ok.03:35
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CyDubuntu-help-need, maybe lspci will identify your wireless card more specifically03:35
ubuntu-help-needits not the card, that has installed properly, its the button that wont switch it on03:36
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ubuntu-help-needu know like those quick buttons, that u press to open a browser/email prog etc03:36
CyDyes i know03:37
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tdnHow do I make a script start every time I log in to KDE?03:41
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andersincan someone tell me if kubuntu catches the XF86AudioMute button somewhere? I use kmix to control volume and XF86AudioRaiseVolume and XF86AudioLowerVolume work fine. XF86AudioMute I can set as a shortcut, but it does not do anything03:44
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andersintdn: Place it in your Autostart path (likely $HOME/.kde/Autostart/)03:52
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andersintdn: you can find the path setting in the "About Me" section in the System Settings03:52
Heart|after a standard 7.04 kubuntu installation.... is there "on demand" write access to ntfs partitions?03:53
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Andrew123hey03:56
baudthiefI've mounted a few SMB shares into /media/blah - is there any way to rename the icon / launcher that appears on the desktop?03:56
baudthiefor should I mount them in a 'real' directory and create manually a launcher03:57
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BluesKajyes Heart|, install ntfs-3g and if you wish further options ntfs-config03:58
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Heart|thx03:59
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tdnandersin, ok. Can I place a symlink to the script in stead of the actual script?04:00
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andersintdn: not sure, never did this myself, but it should work04:00
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ahmedguys wat is the best torrents downloading program ?04:00
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BluesKajktorrent04:00
ahmedguys wat is the best torrents downloading program ?04:01
ahmedother than ktorrent cause its downloading very slow04:02
ahmedi tried the same torrent with ktorrent and another one k torrent was the slowest04:02
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baudthiefahmed: ktorrent rocks04:03
baudthiefI get ~400KB/sec here04:03
BluesKajthe speed of your download isn't determined by the torrent client if all the ports are setup properly. The source and internet congestion does.04:03
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baudthiefprobably needs to do port forwarding04:04
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baudthiefahmed: Zaboor :p04:04
BluesKajyup, if behind a router for sure , otherwise it's usually automatic.04:05
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tdnandersin, it works. :)04:06
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baudthiefoh man, the sound quality in my new kubuntu install is terrible :(04:14
baudthiefreinstalling with kde fixed all the video issues, but now sound is crap04:15
pawitpsound quality?04:15
baudthiefas in, quality of sound playback :p04:15
baudthiefaudio even04:15
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pawitpnever heard about working sound with bad quality04:16
pawitpAnd I can't remember the last time I have broken sound04:17
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dr_willisMe either. Audigy 2zs works good here.04:17
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baudthiefusing alsa?04:20
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baudthiefgot an audigy2 also - tone controls just seem crap04:20
dr_willisusing the default ubuntu/kubuntu stuff04:20
dr_willisnever noticed.04:20
dr_willisnever had to adjust it04:20
pawitpMy ear is never good enough to distinquish onboard sound from good sound card04:20
baudthiefYou have an audio system hooked up?04:21
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pawitpI tried hooking a good system up and I don't think I can tell a difference in daily audio (not movies, which I use my DVD player)04:22
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baudthiefgot it! was set to 8BIT!04:23
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allan123im using fiesty and i installed the openoffice package but how do i start openoffice.org-draw? there is no icon under office and apt says that it is installed...04:24
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Jucatoallan123: it's not in K Menu -> Graphics?04:25
Jucatoif it isn't, you might have to launch it from thecommand line04:25
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Lunar_LampHow can I minimise thunderbird to my tray?04:25
benjamin_hrjust klick on the tray icon04:26
Jucatoit has no tray icon :)04:26
benjamin_hrclick ;)04:26
benjamin_hrhmm my default installation has one :)04:26
Lunar_LampMine doesn't.04:26
Jucatothunderbird? O.o04:26
allan123Jucato, no it isnt there...04:26
Jucatoallan123: the executable name is "oodraw" btw04:26
hyuma_there is a program to rec the animation of beryl of my desktop?04:26
allan123Jucato tnx :)04:26
Lunar_Lampbenjamin_hr, you must have some add-on or "minimise any program" program installed...04:26
benjamin_hrnope04:27
benjamin_hrnothing04:27
dr_willispawitp,  in games is about the only diff i can tell - a good speaker set helps however.04:27
benjamin_hrjust installed feisty like a week ago, than installed berly etc and firefox, tbird thats it04:27
benjamin_hrberyl04:27
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benjamin_hrit sits right between my battery control and beryl manager04:27
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benjamin_hrhmm04:29
baudthiefbbl04:29
nigrahi all, which package generates video thumbnails in konqueror, i installed kde-core and now installing what i need04:29
benjamin_hrbut a right click just gives me "hide window" and "hide" this wouldnt seem like the real tbird context menu04:29
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Jucato!mp304:29
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:29
Jucatonigra: follow the RestrictedFormats page. it has instructions for that04:30
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ahmedhow to set the default mp3 player to be amorak ?04:31
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ahmedhow to set the default mp3 player to be amorak ?04:32
Jucatoahmed: in Konqueror -> Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations04:33
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titanix88hendaus_:04:39
nosrednaekimif I have a dependency that I DO NOT want to DL, and the package that depends on it, does not break.. can I tell apt never to DL the dependency? how?04:39
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hyuma_guys how can I capture what in my desktop happens?=04:40
hyuma_I'd like to record beryl effects04:40
phpcodecan i play dvd(img/ios) movies on linux kubuntu? how?  (something like deamontool to windows)04:42
titanix88hyuma_:install istanbul.04:42
titanix88phpcode: ofcourse u can. !ubotu|dvd04:43
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dr_willisphpcode,  just rip the dvd to the hard drive04:43
dr_willisno need for fancy gimicky things like deamontools04:43
titanix88phpcode: !dvd|phpcode04:43
phpcode!dvd|phpcode ??04:43
dr_willisnot sure what img/ios files are however. :)04:43
ubotuphpcode ??: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs04:43
nigraphpcode: vlc player plays dvd images04:43
nigrai had tried once04:44
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BluesKajphpcode,  if you want more options with .iso and other image files checkout Acetoneiso04:46
BluesKaj!iso04:47
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ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.04:47
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phpcodeok. thanks: titanix88, BluesKaj, nigra ....04:48
phpcode:-)04:48
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BluesKajinteresting that Asetoneiso isn't mentioned on the above site04:49
titanix88phpcode: always welcome :)04:49
BluesKajphpcode, np :)04:49
nigrai want konqueror to generate thumbnails for video files, if i install kdemultimedia package, it does but it is a metapackage which installs many others, does anyone know which particular package enables konqi to make thumbnails?04:50
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nigrai do not want to install noatun,juk or any other dependencies of kdemultimedia meta package04:51
Jucatonigra: I pointed you to the page wiki page already04:51
nigraJucato: i could not fin there04:51
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nigramaybe i missed, will look ar again04:51
titanix88nigra: u r right. why we still need those when have amarok?04:53
Jucatonigra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 Video thumbnails in Konqueror -- install libarts1-xine. You can turn this functionality on and off through Konqueror's menu View->Preview->Video files.04:53
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nigraJucato: thanks much i dont know how i missed it :)04:54
smithwHow can I "install suid" a binary file? (and what does exactly this mean...)04:54
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dr_willisyou 'chmod +s' it.05:03
dr_willisand thats considered a big security hole. :)05:03
dr_willisoh well no patience.05:04
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darkha7I have two problems right now (recently started, possibly after an update).05:12
darkha7Power manager crashes05:12
darkha7and I lose all of the icons05:13
darkha7any help here?  None on the forums despite people posting for help there05:13
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dr_willisall the icons where?05:16
trakinashey there05:16
trakinaswhich lines in my arch config file should I comment to disable scsi emulation for my dvd drive?05:16
darkha7all the desktop icons are missing05:17
darkha7as well as the mounted devices05:17
darkha7(as seen from the desktop)05:17
dr_willisI thought scsi emulation wasent needed any more and was disabled by default.05:17
trakinasdr_willis: me too!05:18
trakinasbut you know! ubuntu is debian...05:18
dr_willisdarkha7,  thats a window m anager setting..    i forget where however.05:18
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darkha7hmmm05:18
trakinasIm impressed that this isnt kde 2.5!05:18
trakinas:P05:18
dr_willisUbuntu is based on debian. :) its slowly but surely branching off and getting farther away..05:18
trakinasjk...05:18
dr_willisin another 2 years..  it will be even more seperated i am betting.05:18
dr_willisi rember when redhat/mandrake (or whatever it was) originally split05:19
dr_willisi am old. :)05:19
trakinasdr_willis: my only compains till now are the damn scsi emulation and some icon text being wrongly displayed05:19
trakinasdr_willis: wow!!05:19
PhinnFortdr_willis: you crazy old fool, how did you get out?05:19
PhinnFort:P05:19
dr_willistrakinas,   Im not sure what you are refering to with this scsi emulation stuff.05:20
dr_willistrakinas,  the next 'trend' is a rewrite of the ATA systems that will make all drives show up as scsi devices .05:20
PhinnFortdr_willis: the worst thing is that RPM is almost exactly the same implementation today;)05:20
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trakinasdr_willis: /dev/sda405:21
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trakinasand etc...05:21
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trakinason gentoo they are all /dev/hda, /hdc/ and /hdd...05:21
dr_willistrakinas,  Huh? a cd/dvd disk shouldent be /dev/sda#  (just /dev/sda)05:21
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trakinasit isnt a disk. it is only an example. :P05:22
dr_willistrakinas,  you are stumbling upon that changes to the IDE system thats vomming.05:22
dr_williscomming.05:22
dr_williswhat ubuntu did you install?05:22
trakinaskubuntu feisty faw05:22
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dr_willisI thought they changed that back to 'normal' befor they released it.05:22
dr_willisyou used a beta of it? or the final release?05:22
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trakinasguess the final one.05:23
trakinashow do i check?05:23
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dr_willisI paied attention to what i downloaded. :)05:23
dr_willisnot sure of the real way.05:23
trakinasdr_willis: /dev/scd0 this is the dvd drive.05:24
PhinnFort /etc/lsb-release ?05:24
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trakinasPhinnFort: lemme try05:24
dr_willishttp://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=149316 discusses the changes to make hda become sda and so on.05:24
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dr_willison my feisty kubuntu install - the hard drives are hda hdb and so on. same as always. I recall on an earlier beta - they used the sda sdb names.05:25
titanix88hello everyone :)05:25
trakinasPhinnFort guess is not beta05:25
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trakinastitanix88: hello there05:25
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trakinasdr_willis: oh dear! lemme read the link then...05:26
titanix88trakinas: :)05:26
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dr_willistrakinas,  in short - its proberly best to get used to the sda stuff.. Not sure why your system is doing it that way.05:27
dr_willisthe artical imples it may be dependiong on your chipset.05:27
titanix88dr_willis:sda/b for SATA usually & hda/b for PATA as far as i know.05:27
c1|freakyhda hdb etc. are IDE drives, sda sdb are S-ATA drives05:27
titanix88dr_willis: in my system.05:27
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dr_willistitanix88,  but thats whats getting changed. :) from what i read.. in the next releases  - the hda/hdb stuff will become sd## as well05:28
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dr_willisi had a mixed system. all the drives where SD##05:28
dr_willisbut then the final release of kubuntu changed it back to c1|freaky 's way.05:28
titanix88dr_willis:well, who knows!!05:29
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Ares|Workhello, if you put proxy details in kconsole, will apt-get use them?05:29
Ares|Workor is it that root has it's own connections settings?05:29
Ares|Workor something else?05:29
dr_willistitanix88,  its one of those FUNdamental changes comming soon!05:30
dr_willisthe apt configs has their own place for proxy settings i thoiught05:30
dr_willisbbl05:30
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eeanI have a laptop with intel graphics. I have a monitor connected to its CRT port. How do I set it up?05:32
trakinasdr_willis: the problem is Im getting read errors on kubuntu and on gentoo it was okay (and mounted as hdd..). here is an dmesg out put: http://pastebin.ca/528428 (for any disk))05:32
cntbdid anyone here learn how to mess with bcdedit in new bootmgr of vista in dual boot scenario with kubuntu?05:32
eeanI'm used to having nvidia stuff, so I don't really know where to start.05:32
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titanix88dr_willis: btw when i plug some other frnds harddisk in my kubuntu i always have to make some directory in /media put them in plugdev group & edit xorg.conf to get automount. I would appreciate if they  automate harddisk auto mounting.05:33
cntbI used an conveninet solution booting kubuntu from boot.ini line pointing to grub installed on root/boot partition of kubuntu05:33
titanix88sorry not xorg.conf but fstab :)05:33
PhinnFort!intel05:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:33
cntbnow I have to deal with vista boot and need to install legacy boot.ini for  my solution to boot kubuntu to work lik eit did05:34
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cntb!vista05:34
ubotuvista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org05:34
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titanix88dr_willis: btw when i plug some other frnds harddisk in my kubuntu i always have to make some directory in /media put them in plugdev group & edit fstab to get automount. I would appreciate if they  automate harddisk auto mounting.05:34
cntbtitanix88, so right05:35
c1|freakytitanix88: that would require scanning hardware on every boot up05:35
cntbtitanix88, me too having problem with it05:35
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c1|freakywhich slows down the boot up process05:35
titanix88c1|freaky|:why not? i heard new versions of xorg do that.05:35
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cntbnope c1|freaky that would require an script to loosen  a bit security05:36
PhinnFort!dualboot05:36
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)05:36
trakinasdr_willis: i just know i can use my drive in my mate's windows... so i guess it isnt screwed. i will install gentoo in another partition tomorrow in anyways, but id like it to work on gentoo.05:36
c1|freakyhm, ok05:36
trakinasops, kubuntu05:36
cntbbecause not automatically mounting usb s is a security issue05:36
cntbPhinnFort, ?05:36
phpcodehow to disable the sound when i get a msg on Kopete?05:36
titanix88c1|freaky, cntb: they could ask root passwd.05:37
cntbanswer must be inside kopete my friend05:37
trakinasphpcode: in config dialog. alerts. disable any.05:37
titanix88phpcode: settings->configure notifications05:37
cntbfile a big to kde titanix88  I guess05:38
cntbbig > bug05:38
trakinasanyone? http://pastebin.ca/52842805:38
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Ares|Workhello, if you put proxy details in kconsole, will apt-get use them?05:38
Ares|Workor is it that root has it's own connections settings?05:38
Ares|Workor something else?05:38
titanix88cntb: at least they could give us a tool to do that as root.05:39
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Brandon420^Hi. Im a first time ubuntu user. never used linux before neither. im having sound issues(no sound at all.) If someone could help me it would be greatly appricated.05:39
trakinasAres!Work: creates a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ called 02proxy05:40
titanix88Brandon420^: from yesterday?05:40
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trakinasAres|Work: http://pastebin.ca/528446 (an exemple)05:41
Brandon420^titanix88: yes sir. :(05:41
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titanix88!sounds05:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sounds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:42
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titanix88!sound05:42
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP305:42
trakinasthe number in front of the file name is just to order it. since we want it to be on top, we name it that way05:42
titanix88Brandon420^: try what the bot said.05:43
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Brandon420^titanix88:  ok im gunna check it out.05:43
phpcodetitanix88, thanks :-)05:43
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trakinasporta = proxy. usuario=user senha=password05:43
foodcomanMorning.05:43
trakinasops, porta = port05:43
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trakinasfoodcoman: noon!05:44
titanix88phpcode: np :)05:44
hnaikHello people ... I have a Dell E1405 with Intel 945GM05:44
foodcomanThat Riddell sure does a good job.05:44
hnaikcant get Beryl to work on it05:44
foodcomantrakinas: =)05:44
Ares|Worktrakinas: it has to have that exact name?05:44
Ares|Worktrakinas: 02proxy?05:45
titanix88!beryl05:45
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:45
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trakinaseverytime I put the output of what is happening with my dvd device, i get ignored. i think that msgs are driving people crazy and the cant type anymore. :(05:45
foodcomanAnyone seeing issues with knetworkmanager and DHCP with Wireless?05:45
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titanix88trakinas: try me.05:45
trakinasAres|Work: not exactly, but it should be on top.05:46
trakinastitanix88:  http://pastebin.ca/52842805:46
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PhinnForttrakinas: your dvd drive is b0rked?05:46
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trakinasPhinnFort: no. it works on gentoo and windows05:47
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PhinnForttrakinas: what kernel on gentoo?05:47
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trakinas2.6.16, if Im not wrong.05:47
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trakinaslet me check. one sec05:48
titanix88trakinas: when do u get that?05:48
trakinas2.6.17-r805:48
trakinastitanix88: that - the error, kubuntu, gentoo or the drive?05:49
PhinnForttrakinas: and 2.6.20-16-generic on ubuntu?05:49
trakinasPhinnFort: guess so. tried version, kernel version but nothing happens... :(05:49
trakinashe!05:49
titanix88PhinnFort: depens on ubuntu version.05:49
PhinnFortuname -a05:49
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trakinasthanks!05:50
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titanix88trakinas: the error05:50
trakinas2.6.20-16-generi05:50
PhinnFortIDE drive?05:50
trakinastitanix88: since thuesday. 3 days after installing kubuntu.05:50
trakinasPhinnFort: sure!05:50
PhinnFortI think the IDE stack got a major upgrade recently05:50
PhinnFortso it really sounds like a kernel problem05:50
PhinnForttrakinas: have you filed a bug?05:51
titanix88trakinas: i mean doing what invokes the error?05:51
PhinnFort(he tries to power up his computer with a ide cdrom, according to what I can see)05:51
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PhinnForttrakinas: I would also double check my ribbon cable05:52
waspiushi..does anyone know if i can use on debian the package that beryl has in which windows explode etc?05:52
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hak5fanHi.... Why can't I open beryl settings manager. All Required packages should be installed. I'm on yoper right now, but the yoper irc channel isn't very active and this problem has been mentioned on the ubuntuforums too. Here's the error message I get when exectuing beryl-settingsin konsole http://pastebin.ca/52846205:53
PhinnFortwaspius: #ubuntu-effects05:53
PhinnForthak5fan:  #ubuntu-effects05:53
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PhinnForthak5fan: it doesn't recognise your image05:53
PhinnForthak5fan: try installing kubuntu;)05:54
waspiusPhinnFort: that mean what exactly?that it can work only on ubuntu?05:54
PhinnFortwaspius: it means that beryl is veeery unstable, and shouldn't be used imho05:54
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PhinnFortso go to #ubuntu-effects for help05:54
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waspiusok thank you05:54
dr_willisi agree with that statement about Beryl.05:54
PhinnFort;)05:54
dr_willisI wish people would get over the eye-candy-addiction allready05:54
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dr_willis"but it brings more people over to linux..."   (and thats a good reason to use linux?)05:55
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dr_willisheh05:55
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PhinnFort;)05:55
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PhinnFortif Beryl is what makes people switch, well, then...05:55
hak5fanI'm not really eye-candy addicted,i don't mind the terminal really05:55
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dr_willisWife got on her new vista laptop - fiirst thing she did - disabled all the vista stuff and made it look like windows9505:55
dr_willisI should of put kubuntu on it and tolkd her it was the new vista05:55
PhinnFortKDE 4 will then definately make Linux break through on the desktop05:56
PhinnFortdr_willis: :P05:56
PhinnForthak5fan: I have eye candy in my terminal05:56
PhinnFortCOLOURED ls05:56
dr_willisI dident belive all the bad press id heard about vista. and guess what.. its true. :) it is nasty05:56
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yuriydr_willis: and then she would proceed to change it to the redmond theme05:56
dr_willisyuriy,  that would be ok :)05:56
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yuriyany permissions gurus around?05:56
PhinnFortdr_willis: well, I always like a good microsoft bashing, but I thought the Vista bashing was a bit overboard, until I tried it myself;)05:56
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hak5fanVista is crap05:57
titanix88PhinnFort: when beryl + compiz stabilizes i won't have my commands without a wobbly terminal.05:57
PhinnFortwell, I like the skin05:57
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PhinnFortdarn netsplit05:57
waspiusdr_willis: beauty is something that people will never get over..it is what attracks you and what makes your life better...the fact that they choose linux-mac over windows etc shows that they understand the need for a more secure,stable and better os...however the issue of beauty will never be absent05:57
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titanix88hak5fan: i agree!!05:57
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dr_willisPhinnFort,  when that User Controll thing Poped up when the wife was wanting to simply remove a useless icon from the start menu.. i knew it was  a bad sign.05:57
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PhinnFortdr_willis: :P05:57
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PhinnFortfeck feck feck05:57
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PhinnFortcan't even read a single line05:57
dr_willisone day MS will figure out how to seperate USERS from Admins..05:57
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PhinnFortdr_willis: in your dreams;)05:58
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titanix88someone mass killing everyone?05:58
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dr_willisMSLinux05:58
dr_willis:005:58
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waspiusanother question...does anyone use qtorent?because i am trying to find what port is uses and its settings and i cannot05:58
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PhinnForttitanix88: netsplit05:58
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PhinnForttitanix88: look it up on wikipedia05:58
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dr_willistorrent clients normally use the same ports i thoght05:58
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PhinnFortwaspius: use KTorrent05:58
trakinasPhinnFort: yep05:58
trakinaslong time i dont see one.05:58
titanix88waspius: try ktorrent.it rocks.05:58
dr_willislike 6668 ? or was that irc.05:58
dr_willis:)05:58
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PhinnFort!botsnack05:59
ubotuYum! Err, I mean, APT!05:59
waspiusPhinnFort: ok i will check it out..thank you05:59
hak5fanI tried vista beta build 5308 it really sucked.... extremly slow and shitty05:59
PhinnFortwaspius: it is the best torrent client available05:59
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waspiusPhinnFort: thank you05:59
titanix88PhinnFort: i know but admins should take care of that.05:59
PhinnFortvista looks pretty, though05:59
PhinnForttitanix88: ?05:59
waspiusPhinnFort: but that runs under kde!!i am under gnome05:59
PhinnFortwaspius: INFIDEL!05:59
PhinnFort:P05:59
trakinasso, like i said...05:59
PhinnFortwaspius: qtorrent is Qt based05:59
trakinasPhinnFort: not yet. someone else told me to do so, but also told me to try to replicate it with other ubuntu kernel flavors.05:59
titanix88waspius: just install it.it works fine.(i'm in gnome too)06:00
PhinnForttrakinas: well, report the bug, or see if someone has reported it already06:00
trakinaswaspius: i used the default bit torrent. was enough to me.06:00
waspiustitanix88: ok..thank you06:00
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trakinaswaspius: anyways... gnome-files.org06:01
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titanix88PhinnFort: i thought netsplit is some kind of attack. it isn't?06:01
PhinnForttitanix88: nope06:01
PhinnFortnot necessarily06:01
trakinasnot gnome-files06:01
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trakinasgnomefiles.org06:01
DraxNSok.. now I am really pis*ed off ...06:01
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PhinnForthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit06:01
titanix88PhinnFort: me gnome+kde+xfce :)06:02
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DraxNSis there a way to connecti via slmodemd on feisty???06:02
PhinnForttitanix88: bigamist?06:02
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PhinnFort:P06:02
trakinaswaspius: http://gnomefiles.org/search.php?search=06:02
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PhinnForttitanix88: I tried XFCE4 not long ago, under Arch Linux, with Beryl06:02
PhinnForttitanix88: smooth, but really clunky imho06:02
DraxNSdialup anyone? smartlink?06:02
DraxNSdialup anyone? smartlink?06:02
DraxNSdialup anyone? smartlink?06:02
waspiusPhinnFort: because the users running linux are all part of one community...help should be offered to everyone..therefore it dont matter what distro you run or what window manager..that what i think..06:02
DraxNSfeisty?06:02
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PhinnFort!spam | DraxNS06:02
ubotuDraxNS: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)06:02
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PhinnFortwaspius: well, using the appropriate channels is always a good thing06:03
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DraxNSyes yes.... I am way beyond spam right now PhinnFort06:03
PhinnFortwaspius: since there's huge differences between gnome and KDE06:03
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PhinnFortDraxNS: :P06:03
titanix88PhinnFort: i only miss right click menu on desktop. but amazingly it's compositing is astonishing.06:03
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PhinnForttitanix88: tried E17?06:03
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DraxNSdialup anyone? smartlink?06:04
waspiusPhinnFort: yes it is..but if you cannot get help in some it is always good to ask elsewhere...there is a huge difference between the two but some issues are more general..06:04
DraxNSdialup anyone? smartlink? on feisty?06:04
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PhinnFortwaspius: therefore I always assume everyone in here is using KDE06:04
titanix88PhinnFortS: what's that?06:04
titanix88PhinnFort: what's that?06:04
PhinnFort?06:05
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titanix88DraxNS: i'm using dialup.06:05
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waspiusPhinnFort: and it is the correct assumption..06:05
DraxNSwith smartlink driver? titanix88?06:05
titanix88PhinnFort: not really, but what's ur problem?06:06
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PhinnForttitanix88: only problem I have is that KDevelop's editor fonts are b0rked06:06
PhinnFortsome of the fonts KUbuntu ships with are really horrible06:06
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DraxNS!bugs06:06
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots06:06
titanix88PhinnFort: sorry not to u. but to DraxNS.06:06
PhinnFort:P06:07
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DraxNSmy problem is no carrier titanix8806:07
titanix88DraxNS: wvdial works fine with almost everyone.06:07
DraxNShttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417135 titanix8806:07
alakhiaI am having trouble playing MJPEG encoded avi file using kaffeine ...06:07
dr_willisif the modem is in fact useable under linux that is. :006:07
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alakhiaanyone know what could be wrong? In particular, I get sound but no video.06:08
titanix88alakhia: installed libxine-extracodecs?06:08
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DraxNSit was... under edgy... working like charm...06:08
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alakhiatitanix88: I don't know ... it works under mplayer so I didn't bother doing anything06:08
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alakhiatitanix88: let me check06:08
dr_willisthats a standard "codec not installed problem' :)06:09
dr_willisdiffernt players may be doingthings difrently - may want to try vlc out also06:09
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yourpalHaving a problem bringing my screen resolution to the right settings.06:09
titanix88alakhia: mplayer is a self-contained player.but kaffaine uses xine framework.06:09
tschentz@yourpal what graphics adapter?06:10
yourpalMy xorg.conf says the right resolution (1280x800) but Kubuntu doesnt let it be at that setting06:10
alakhiatitanix88: ah, ok ... yes, I'm missing that package. Let me install that now.06:10
yourpalintel mobile 94506:10
hak5fanVista made me switch to Linux... no it forced me into it..... hehehe06:10
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tschentz@yourpal did you install 915resolution?06:10
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yourpalnope what is that?06:10
tschentzsudo apt-get install 915resolution06:10
yourpali will now06:11
trakinasPhinnFort: what do I fill in in package/project06:11
tschentz@yourpal and after this edit /etc/default/915resolution06:11
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PhinnForttrakinas: linux-image?06:11
tschentz@yourpal let me check on my machine for my settings....06:11
PhinnForttrakinas: just take what fits best, and hopefully if you're wrong someone who knows better will fix it06:11
trakinasokay. thanks06:12
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tschentz@yourpal you have to do: sudo 915resolution -l  after installing06:12
tschentzyou will see the possible modes for your adapter06:13
alakhiatitanix88 and dr_willis: Thanks guys ... it works now! :-)06:13
yourpaltschentz >> then edit the conf file06:13
yourpaltschentz >> right?06:13
tschentzyes06:13
tschentz@yourpal you have to enter the "mode"06:14
tschentz@yourpal and the resolution06:14
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titanix88i installed too many apps and my K menu always showes everything. no scrolling . it's disturbing. anyone know anyfix?06:14
tschentz@yourpal: e.g. my mode is  MODE=5a  and XRES=1400 YRES=105006:14
alansiihi everyone06:15
alakhiaokay, another question ... about apt. Is there a way to disable some dependencies?06:15
yourpaltschentz >> mode 5c06:15
alansiianyone know hot to type chinese in kubuntu?06:15
dr_willisalakhia,  not sure what you mean.06:15
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yourpalxreso = 1280 yreso= 800 right06:15
alakhiafor example, i want to install limewire. But that installs a whole bunch of gnome stuff which I do want06:15
titanix88alakhia: this will brake u r repository.06:15
dr_willisif a program depends on another package.. well it may not work without it.06:15
tschentz@yourpal: ok, give it a try.... after editing do a sudo /etc/init.d/915resolution restart06:16
dr_willis!frostfire06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about frostfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:16
yourpaltschentz >>xreso = 1280 yreso= 800 right06:16
dr_willislimewire is in the repos?06:16
tschentz@yourpal and restart X06:16
dr_willis!frostwire06:16
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:16
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alansiianyone there?06:16
alansiianyone know hot to type chinese in kubuntu?06:16
tschentz@yourpal: if it doesn't work on the first try... simply try to reboot06:16
alakhiatitanix88 and dr_willis: i tried to install the deb package from limewire website using dpkg. It installed fine and works06:16
dr_willisalansii,  no idea.06:16
yourpalok thznks06:16
yourpaltrying now06:16
alansiiok never mind sorry06:16
dr_willis!ch06:16
tschentz@yourpal good luck06:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:16
dr_williswhats the ubuntu chineese channel?06:17
dr_willis!cn06:17
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk06:17
alakhiatitanix88 and dr_willis: but now when I need to install other things, I need to install gamin gconf2 gnome-mime-data libavahi-glib1 libbonobo2-006:17
dr_willisalakhia,  if the package installed and works.. whats saying to install the otehr things then?06:17
alakhiatitanix88 and dr_willis: about 23 MBs of stuff that I don't want06:17
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titanix88 alakhia : then it already had dependencies installed or knoe dependecies at all.06:17
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alakhiatitanix88 and dr_willis: when I tried installingn xine extra codecs, I got a msg saying I had unmet deps06:18
dr_willissounds like some updates have came down the line.06:18
dr_willisxine may very well need the extra stuff06:18
alakhiatitanix88 and dr_willis: that I needed to run install -f with no args06:18
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titanix88alakhia: why from limewire site?06:18
dr_willisive learned the hard way its best to just let the Package manager do its job and install the stuff it says it needs.06:19
alakhiatitanix88 and dr_willis: no, the deb file for limewire needs it06:19
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dr_willisalakhia,  in that case the deb says it needs it. If its incorrect. then file a bug with the .deb maintainer..06:19
alakhiatitanix88 and dr_willis: hmm, is limewire in the repository?06:19
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dr_willis!find limewire06:19
dr_willisI wouldent use limewire. id use that frostwire06:19
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ubotuFile limewire found in ubuntu-docs06:20
dr_willisHmm06:20
dr_willisthats weird.06:20
dr_willismust be a doc about limewire06:20
alakhiatitanix88 and dr_willis: frostwire ... ok, could give that a try06:20
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tschentz@yourpal: did it work out?06:21
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yourpaltshentz >> Like a charm!  Thanks dude. - originally I was fiddling with xorg.conf and it was set up right but the resolution was not showing up in KDE06:21
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yourpaltshentz >> why is that?06:22
alakhiatitanix88 and dr_willis: how can I search for a package name? it can't find frostwire.06:22
titanix88alakhia: frostwire or limewire what does they do?06:22
alakhiatitanix88 and dr_willis: peer to peer download program06:22
tschentz@yourpal: has something to do with the bios and intel... : apt-cache show 915resolution06:22
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alakhiatitanix88: the napster of today, I guess06:23
yourpaltshentz >> oh I see.  Man things are always more complicated than they need to be eh?06:23
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titanix88alakhia: press tab after giving "sudo apt-get install frost"06:23
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titanix88alakhia: it's called autocomplition.06:23
tschentz@yourpal: sometimes... It took me forever to find out how this works... :)06:23
yourpaltshentz >> lol!  You mean IRC? LMAO06:24
alakhiatitanix88: tab doesn't do anything ... just beeps06:24
tschentz@yourpal lol06:24
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hyuma_what's the utility to manage cellphone nokia?06:24
yourpaltshentz >> Well atleast its not OpenBSD06:24
xstI try to make a samba-shared folder writeable so that new files are owned by the <me>-user. For that, I right-click on the folder -> properties -> share and select <my username> as the guest user. But when I do that, the client claims that the shared folder, say foo, does not exist. Why?!06:24
alakhiatitanix88: I thought tab completion only worked for local files06:25
titanix88alakhia: that means it is not in the repository.06:25
yourpaltshentz >> Have a great day man.  I gotta get some work done06:25
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tschentz@youpal: allright... c u06:26
alakhiatitanix88: wow, this is cool. I tried for other packages and it works!06:26
alakhiatitanix88: too bad it doesn't work in tcsh06:27
titanix88alakhia:try"sudo apt-get" and tab. u will get possible commands like "install" too. :)06:27
trakinasreported!06:28
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alakhiatitanix88: nice!06:28
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alakhiaI'm looking forward to the new tickless kernel for my laptop06:30
titanix88alakhia: why use tcsh. i heard bash combines power of csh & tcsh in top of sh.06:30
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weiserHey I have installet Kubuntu on my Medion MD6200 and I have a little problem with ACPI on it, There is no ACPI support at all on it, I have being running Gentoo on it with fully ACPI support. I did have to turn off the ACPI support when I bootet on the install cdrom, but it must be possilbel to get to work, any one any ideas?06:31
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hnaikI install beryl frm the packages06:32
alakhiatitanix88: i have shortcut keys setup in tcsh ... which I guess I need to figure out how to do in bash. Never bothered because tcsh works just fine06:32
dfeserhey there! can anyone help me with kernel compiling?06:32
hnaikand if I launch beryl-manager from my system tray ...06:32
sercikdo you remember my problems with athlon64 and cpu scaling?06:32
hnaiknothing happens06:32
titanix88alakhia: /bin/bash :)06:33
hnaikit just blinks and falls back to KWin06:33
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hnaikdfeser: install the make-kpkg tool and fakeroot06:33
serciksomeone of people with which i have chatted some hour ago??06:34
alakhiatitanix88: I mean shortcut keys like doing "Esc p" to search back in history while matching what has been typed06:34
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hyuma_hey anyone use Yakuake?06:34
elcuco hyuma_ yes06:34
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hnaikhyuma_: I do06:34
serciki have installed it and see it06:34
hyuma_elcuco do you install themes?06:34
hyuma_or something else?06:34
elcuconioe06:34
alakhia!compile kernel06:34
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about compile kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:34
alakhia!kernel06:35
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild06:35
hyuma_is not possible to move yakuake from the top right?06:35
dfeserhnaik i have installed this...compiling is no problem...06:35
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titanix88alakhia: install debian-reference06:35
dfeserhnaik when I install the apt file there are some lines lile this: find: /lib/firmware/2.6.21-acer8000: No such file or directory06:35
hnaikk06:36
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alakhiatitanix88: what is that package for?06:36
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serciki have solved my problem with athlon64 and cool&quiet06:37
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serciki don't know why but when i load powersaved service he try to insert speedstep centrino module06:38
sercikbut i have an athlon7506:38
titanix88alakhia: about kernel compile.06:38
sercik6406:38
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titanix88alakhia: also installation-guide-i38606:39
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adam_jest ktos z polski ?06:40
PhinnFort!pl | adam_06:40
DraxNS!pl | adam_06:40
ubotuadam_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl06:40
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titanix88alakhia: for napster install knapster2 / lopster / nap(found them in synaptic :)06:43
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PhinnForthow come I can't access buntudot.org?06:44
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sercikHi PhinnFort!06:44
serciki have solved!06:44
ubuntu_hello06:44
PhinnFort:D06:44
ubuntu_yesterday i had somerpoblem with my grapich card driver06:44
titanix88:)06:44
sercikthanks for your hint to load that module!06:44
ubuntu_i have ati radeon 9600 and i hag flgrx,06:45
titanix88ubuntu_: i remember u.06:45
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PhinnFortubuntu_: don't use fglrx06:45
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PhinnFortubuntu_: it sucks, it's closed source06:45
sercikthere is a strange bug! powersaved tried to lad speedstep centrino module and not athlon ke06:45
PhinnFortubuntu_: if you use the open source driver you can use beryl and everything good just straight away06:45
ubuntu_so i unistalled and restarted to later install it agian, but when i tried to restart it just didnt get anywhere06:45
titanix88PhinnFort: but u have no choice :(06:45
ubuntu_just the black screen06:45
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PhinnFortubuntu_: try to remove the xorg.conf file06:45
PhinnFortor move it to a safe place06:46
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sercikif i want to start powernow_k8 module at startup??06:46
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ubuntu_well the pronl==bme now06:46
dfeserhere i am again06:46
PhinnFortsercik: look in /etc/modules.d06:46
ubuntu_is that i am on the cd live version i am not inside the machine06:46
ubuntu_how do i get it to work again_06:46
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dfeserwhen I compile a new kernel...what about all the firmware files?06:46
ubuntu_a rare think i got was that at the beggining when it asks if i want to use kubuntu or windows, i have now 2 alternatives with kubuntu06:47
dfeserwhat do I have to do?06:47
ubuntu_if i try to install kubuntu from the cd now, is there any risk i would be messing something up_06:47
sercikok i didn't remember.. i have added powernow_k8 to file /etc/modules06:47
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PhinnFortHobbsee: ping06:48
HobbseePhinnFort: pong06:48
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PhinnFortHobbsee: can you access buntudot.org?06:48
PhinnFort(you where at  the top in google when I searched for it;))06:49
HobbseePhinnFort: no, it doesnt exist anymore06:49
HobbseePhinnFort: it's now at ubuntuwire.com06:49
PhinnFortHobbsee: hum?06:49
PhinnFortah, ok06:49
Hobbseeas in, the shell accounts dont exist anymore, that domain dropped06:49
PhinnFortHobbsee: just a dns change, so everything is there?06:49
Hobbseewhat were you wanting?06:49
PhinnFortpeople/~jdong/ktorrent/2.2~beta1/feisty/ktorrent_2.2~beta1-0ubuntu1~7.04prevu1_amd64.deb06:50
Hobbseei dobut it, i think that stuff is unaccesssible nwo06:50
PhinnFortthe ktorrent debs from jdong06:50
Hobbseeimbrandon: ping06:50
imbrandonHobbsee: You sent me a contentless ping.  This is a contentless pong.  Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around.06:50
Hobbseeahh06:50
Hobbseeimbrandon: ping @ buntudot06:50
Hobbseedoubt it still exists06:50
Hobbseejdong wont have access to ubuntuwire06:50
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PhinnFortah, ok06:50
PhinnFortI'll mail him, or something06:50
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titanix88bye everyone!06:52
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navetshttp://by107fd.bay107.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/HoTMaiL?curmbox=00000000%2d0000%2d0000%2d0000%2d000000000001&a=f7edff3f4f9f1be0a18a3fcdce60a1ade99a009b66396926687084d1f4fe4dc506:52
navetswhoops sorry06:52
ubuntu_hi something is worng her06:52
ubuntu_i am trying to install kubuntu from the live cd06:52
ubuntu_but when it gest to the part where it asks how i want to partion i does not show anything06:53
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dfesercan i use firmware files that are meant for a 2.6.20 kernel with a 2.6.21 kernel?06:55
PhinnFortdfeser: probably, yes06:55
PhinnFortdfeser: depends on the drivers06:55
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nosrednaekimubuntu_: its not detecting your disk drive. are you doing raid?06:55
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ubuntu_it is wrking now06:56
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dfeserPhinnFort I just compiled a kernel and copied the firmware dir to the kernel-matching name...but when I try to boot it, it hangs after uncrompressing kernel image...OK06:57
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PhinnFortdfeser: I'm not to terribly familiar with the way ubuntu packs it's initrd06:58
dfeserPhinnFort when I try to boot failsave it boots until the ipw2200 driver loads and then it hangs06:58
PhinnFortdfeser: try to not include the firmware in the initrd06:58
PhinnFortdfeser: then manually load the driver once the system is up06:58
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dfeserPhinnFort i did not include the firmware in the kernel06:59
PhinnFortdfeser: in the ramdisk?06:59
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alakhiatitanix88: cool, thanks for all the info. Was afk for a while06:59
PhinnFortthat the kernel loads early06:59
hyumahey how can I install driver for cellual phone via USB?06:59
hyumaI've nokia06:59
hyumaand lsusb don't recognize vendor07:00
iarwain_hiya, anyone know why i get an "Authentication error: Not authorized" when trying to connect Psi to jabber?07:00
hyumanothing listed07:00
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dfeserPhinnFort you mean I should try to not include the ipw2200 driver in the kernel but make it a module?07:00
PhinnFortdfeser: you could try that too07:01
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jwallingford!repositories07:01
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:01
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jwallingfordcan someone tell me where I can get good repositories for ubuntu?07:02
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PhinnFort!repomatic07:03
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about repomatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:03
PhinnFort!repositories07:03
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu07:03
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PhinnFort!source-o-matic | jwallingford07:05
ubotujwallingford: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:05
iarwain_noone?07:06
PhinnFortiarwain_: try kopete07:06
iarwain_PhinnFort: okay07:06
jwallingfordPhinnFort: thank you07:07
PhinnFortyw07:07
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yeniklasorWhen I write something with "kate" and save it, I see another file(backup file) with it. How can I disable automatic backup feature?07:07
dr_willislook in the menu/settings under automatic backups?07:07
dr_willisthose backups have saved my backside on several occasions. :)07:08
secleinteerhi, does anyone know how to turn off the on screen display for kaffeine when it's in full screen? right now i get the play time in the upper left corner07:08
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ubunturosyeniklasor: Settings -> Editor -> Open/Save -> Backup on Save07:08
arooAnyone else having slow downloads through repositories?07:09
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yeniklasorubunturos :thanks07:10
dr_willissome servers are faster then others.07:10
elcucoi am using kdevelop for developing a qt4 application, and it crashes a lot on startups. anyone else experiencing this issue...?07:10
ubunturosyeniklasor: welcome07:10
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martijnhell07:16
martijnhello :)07:16
PhinnForto07:16
PhinnFort:P07:16
martijnanyone here using kmail?07:16
PhinnFortmy07:17
PhinnFort*me07:17
martijngreat :)07:17
PhinnForti just mailed jdong07:17
PhinnFort:D07:17
martijnalso kde 3.5.7?07:17
PhinnFortyup07:17
martijnwow07:17
PhinnFort[check] 07:17
martijnand do you also experience smtp problems since the update?07:17
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PhinnFortnope07:17
martijni am using gmail in kmail07:17
PhinnFortme too07:17
martijnand it complaints about smtp07:17
martijn=t07:17
PhinnFortI get none07:18
martijn-r07:18
martijnhmm07:18
PhinnFortand as I said, I've just mailed jdong and gotten a reply, so I know it works07:18
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PhinnFort;)07:18
martijnah07:18
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martijnhmm07:18
PhinnFortsmtp.gmail.com07:18
PhinnFortport 2507:18
martijnyes07:18
martijnno07:18
martijn25?07:18
PhinnFortyup07:18
PhinnFortI've read the docs07:19
PhinnFort;)07:19
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martijnnope07:19
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martijnstill get the error07:19
PhinnFortsecurity=07:20
PhinnFort?07:20
martijnSending failed:07:20
martijnCould not connect to host smtp.gmail.com.07:20
PhinnForthave you made it detect automagically?07:20
PhinnFortmartijn: try pinging smtp.gmail.com07:20
martijnyes ssl and login07:20
martijnping is ok07:21
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martijnalready tried :)07:21
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martijnbut the setup like this has worked for ages07:21
martijnand suddenly it is giving problems07:21
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PhinnFortno login07:21
PhinnFortPLAIN07:21
PhinnFortit says here at least07:21
martijnplain07:21
martijnwait07:22
PhinnFortmaybe gmail has been more forgiving07:22
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PhinnFortin the past07:22
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martijnnop07:24
PhinnFortno go?07:24
martijntls, ssl, login, plain, port 465, port 9something, port 2507:24
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PhinnFortis the username you use to authenticate good?07:25
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PhinnFortuse the full shebang: username@gmail.com07:25
jwallingfordis it safe to get the 64bit version for my 64 bit computer or are there a lot of driver issues with it?07:25
Qalduneno07:26
Qaldunego get it07:26
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PhinnFortjwallingford: no driver issues in Linux07:26
PhinnFortjwallingford: 64-bit has been supported for ages by Linux07:26
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yourpalanyone know about those new free fonts that redhat released?  How do we get them on Kubuntu?07:26
Qaldunethe only single thing i would recommend is to get automatix in order to get all that only-32 bit stuff working such as flash plugin07:26
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BluesKaj!automatix207:27
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:27
jwallingfordand kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde right?07:27
dr_willisi see no reason to use 64bit version of ubuntu at this time either.07:27
jwallingfordor is it an addon to ubuntu07:27
PhinnFortjwallingford: yeah07:27
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dr_willisunless you got really specilized needs07:27
yourpalanyone know about those new free fonts that redhat released?  How do we get them on Kubuntu?07:27
PhinnFortdr_willis: why not?07:27
PhinnFort!repeat | yourpal07:28
ubotuyourpal: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience07:28
dr_willisPhinnFort,  why bother if you gain nothing. (for most people)07:28
Qaldunejwallingford is the ubuntu version that come with kde by default07:28
PhinnFortdr_willis: I gain a marginal speed increase in most apps07:28
dr_willisand it can have a lot of little annoying issues.07:28
PhinnFortdr_willis: ;)07:28
dr_willis'marginal' :)07:28
Qaldunei do see a reason to use 64bit version of software if you are able to07:28
yourpalubuto >> you are a bot don't talk to non-digital entities07:28
PhinnFortdr_willis: those issues won't be weeded out if noone finds them07:28
Qaldunewhat lot of little annoying issues?07:29
dr_willisPhinnFort,  of course the main issue these days are with the binary/driver/companies - that dont release the code... so..07:29
Qaldunei've never gotten one07:29
yourpal!patience07:29
ubotuThe people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:29
BluesKajwhy should we care about redhat here , yourpal ...there plenty of fonts available07:29
dr_willisQaldune,  hang in here enough and you will see a few every day.07:29
PhinnFortdr_willis: I don't07:29
BluesKaj!fonts07:29
PhinnFortdr_willis: I've used 64-bit for ~3 years07:29
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer07:29
Qaldunedr_willis i've used ubuntu 64bit version for a year07:29
Qalduneand no trouble found07:29
dr_willisPhinnFort,   so all these people with issues are confused then eh? :)07:29
PhinnFortsmooth as a chickens flapping leg07:30
PhinnFortdr_willis: yeah07:30
martijnhey phinnfort, still no success, but thanks07:30
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dr_willisgo run zsnes :007:30
jwallingfordis there a kubuntu server edition?07:30
dr_willisheh..07:30
SlimeyPetejwallingford: that would just be the same as ubuntu server edition, surely07:30
yourpaljwallingford - server does not have gnome or kde07:30
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yourpaljwallingford - server does not have gui07:30
jwallingfordah07:30
yourpaljwallingford - you can add it if you want07:30
yourpaljwallingford - but its not security best practice07:31
jwallingfordhmm... i hope there is a lot of support for the server edition. I need a server and dont know command line very well07:31
yourpaljwallingford - check out ispconfig or webmin07:31
BluesKajQaldune, you must be the exception to the rule , cuz most of us who have tried 64bit versions have been very unsatisfied , especially with hardware drivers etc07:31
dr_willissupport will not make you instantly learn the command line. :) learning the command line will learn you the command line.07:31
yourpaljwallingford - check out ispconfig or webmin are webified gui's to admin your box07:31
Qalduneblueskaj so am i07:31
fdovingjwallingford: you can install serv with kubuntu too, it's the same packages. install whatever services you need and get the gui config apps :)07:32
Qalduneonly trouble i found is to get flash plugin working... all i need to do is download automatix2 and give it a few minutes..07:32
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yourpaljwallingford - there are tons of books and free articles on server configuration07:32
Qalduneif you think that's enough not to get 64bit.. that's fine with me, but don't mess around with people. 64bit is a very reliable and more efficient option07:32
yourpaljwallingford - check out wiki/help and even debcentral or howtoforge.net07:32
jwallingfordok thank you07:33
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yourpaljwallingford - np. don't be intimidated by the command line it will get easier as you go forward07:33
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yourpalanyone know when the new patch for Firefox is coming out?07:34
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Qalduneyourpal: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0.0.4/07:35
yourpalyes i know07:35
yourpalnever mind07:35
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jwallingfordwhat is eubuntu and xubuntu?07:36
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dr_willistime for me to hit the JOB! argh!07:36
yourpalqaldune >> how do you apply the .mar files?07:36
SlimeyPetejwallingford: edubuntu has educational software preinstalled. Xubuntu uses XFCE instead of Gnome or KDE.07:37
jwallingfordok i know what xubuntu is what is eubuntu?07:37
jwallingfordah ok07:37
Qaldune.mar files?07:37
jwallingfordthank you07:37
Qaldunei've got no idea about that sorry07:37
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yourpalqaldune >> the update files07:38
yourpalqaldune >> the update files in the updates folder off of releases....mozilla.org07:38
Qalduneyourpal if you wanna update just download the latest version...07:38
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yourpalqaldune >> Yes, I know that but I thought there might be a way to apply that update07:39
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yourpalqaldune >> yeah, I will. tx07:39
Qaldunenp07:39
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yourpalqaldune >> I wish Kubuntu allowed one to update right from inside firefox and just asked for sudo07:40
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Qalduneyourpal i wish that too07:41
yourpalqaldune >> have a good 1 man07:41
yourpalqaldune >> later07:41
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Qaldunelater07:41
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ikarowebhi07:42
ikarowebi'm italian so, sorry for my english07:42
ikarowebi've a problem with amarok07:43
ikarowebi've installed on ubuntu07:43
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ikarowebmy problem is with wiki-lyrics07:43
ikarowebso help me please :(07:43
spawn57there's an #amarok channel I think, you might have better luck there07:43
ikarowebok thanks07:43
ikaroweb;)07:43
spawn57=D07:44
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jwallingfordanybody here used win4lin before?07:47
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payam#kubuntu-se07:53
payam#ubuntu-se07:53
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l_rello07:56
l_ri'd like to know why clicking on "close session" from the K menu never works.07:56
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adam_polska ?07:57
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adam_jest ktos z polski ?07:57
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BluesKaj!pl07:58
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl07:58
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cyber-hazardit used to be (all the way up to 7.04 beta) that when I'd plugin my laptop it would auto mount and place an icon on my desktop. now it doesn't anymore (7.04 release). anyone know if that was changed in the release, or if perhaps I changed something without realizing it?08:00
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Skrot-Ehm, guys.. is it normal for KNetWorkamanger to use 785.932 in VmRss and 969.004 in VmSize (read via KDE System Guard)..?08:02
Skrot-KNetworkManager*08:02
mikkaelis here someone who used "fxload" ?08:02
PhinnFort!info fxload08:08
ubotufxload: Firmware download to EZ-USB devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20020411-1 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 76 kB08:08
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binksanyone no of a good repair tool for a hdd that causes crashes due to errors08:15
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max_ciao a tutti08:18
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BluesKajbinks, what are the errors?08:18
max_qualche italiano?08:18
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BluesKaj!it | max_08:18
ubotumax_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:18
binksnot sure but if install a new os onto the hdd it random crashes on another hdd its ok08:18
max_grazie a te!08:19
binkshow do i find the errors08:19
max_ciao08:19
fdovingbinks: replace the drive.08:19
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binksfdoving: lol is there no tool to cure bad blocks and so on08:19
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binksim scottish i hate spending money08:20
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cyber-hazarderrr....how are those two related?08:20
fdovingbinks: sure, you can -try- 'e2fsck -c /dev/<device>', but i'd recommend replacing it before it crashes totaly and you loose data.08:20
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ignaziociao08:21
ignazioc' qualche italiano?08:21
BluesKajnot physical bad blocks ... if the drive is scratched or has separated sustrate , then dump it08:21
cyber-hazard!it | ignazio08:21
ubotuignazio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:21
BluesKajsubstrate08:21
binksok it goes cheers08:21
ignaziothanks08:21
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binksok random q. 2 can someone thats learnt c++ from a book recomend a good one to get to start08:24
DraxNSdialup anyone? smartlink? on feisty?08:25
DraxNSdialup anyone? smartlink? on feisty?08:25
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ctroyerwhat is a good sound editing tool in kubuntu?08:26
mikkaelwhat would happen if i'd install ubuntustudio-desktop from kde: will this just add the ubuntustudio (gnome) session to kdm or will this mess up my system ?08:26
ctroyeri have used cool edit pro 2 in xp....looking for something comparable08:26
DraxNSctroyer: rezound08:26
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ctroyerdo u have a link08:27
ctroyeror is it packaged?08:27
DraxNSit is in repo08:27
SlynderdaleHmm, with Konversation, is it possible to write scripts, ect to change how it works? LIke text prefixed with a colen or semi colen would turn into a /me describe?08:27
ctroyerkewl....thx i'll try that08:27
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DraxNSdialup anyone? smartlink? on feisty?08:29
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Hirvinen!GRUB08:33
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:33
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payamhi08:38
payamI have a fucking question08:38
ompaul!language | payam08:38
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payam!langaueg08:39
ubotupayam: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about langaueg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:39
kyblikHi08:39
SlynderdaleHmm, whats a good IRC client?08:39
cyber-hazardxchat08:39
payamHi08:40
kyblikCech_?08:40
ompaulSlynderdale, konversation and xchat are popular08:40
payamWhat is MIRC?08:40
payammIRC08:40
ompaulpayam, don't troll thanks08:40
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kyblikSie haben Tsechien.__???08:40
kyblikJe tu nejaky ech?08:41
fdoving!cz | kyblik08:41
ubotukyblik: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.08:41
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payamNo i dont do that08:41
payamI swer08:41
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payammIRC I think its some Messenger like Kopete08:41
payamnonthing08:42
tsdgeosfor windows, no linux version afair08:42
payams what is it?08:42
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payamHow do you chatt with that?08:42
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payam#ubuntu-ir08:43
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yeniklasorWhen I set-up snergy, I couldn't connect my cliend-server. Anyone is using Snergy?08:44
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yeniklasorWhen I set-up snergy, I couldn't connect my cliend-server. Anyone is using Snergy?08:50
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venik212I had to reboot my machine, and got the message: kinit could not find a resume image...08:56
venik212it then booted into NORMAL BOOT (CLI)08:56
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venik212how do I staart the window manager in KDE?08:56
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fdovingvenik212: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start08:58
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Admiral_Chicagohey everyone08:58
fdovinghey admiral_chicago.08:58
compilerwriterctrl + alt + backspace venik21208:58
venik212I tried both, and neither worked08:59
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compilerwriterno wait venik212 that is how to restart it.08:59
arathaldcan anyone here help me set up my VPN? im at work and I need a file from my school network very urgently. I already tried #ubuntu and no one there helped me08:59
DraxNSstartx venik21208:59
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compilerwriterDo you have someone at schoold to help if needs be arathald?09:00
venik212that produced an x in the middle of my screen, and a black window in the upper left corner09:00
compilerwriteror is the machine at school already to go and you need only get set up on your end arathald?09:00
arathaldcompilerwriter: not that I know of, but I know the VPN settings, im jsut having a brain glitch as to how to set up VPN in linux09:01
arathaldcompilerwriter: actually, im going into the school's vpn09:01
arathaldcompilerwriter: pptp09:01
venik212I have the terminal with X running, I think09:01
DraxNSyour X is broken or ownership on your /home....  venik21209:02
venik212I tried to restart KDM from there, but nothing happened09:02
compilerwritercan't you just putty then arathald?09:02
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compilerwriterWhat os am I dealing with at school?09:03
arathaldcompilerwriter: I don't know of a server that I can get to from outside the network that can get the file i need09:03
venik212so how do I fix it?09:03
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compilerwriterThen you are pretty much screwed arathald.09:04
arathaldcompilerwriter: ?? why? I can VPN in and get access to the server I need09:04
DraxNSvenik212: no time to walk you through09:05
venik212I take it there is no quick fix?09:05
compilerwriterWhoa arathald I thought you just said you couldn't get to a server?09:05
arathaldcompilerwriter: trust me, I know what im talking about, im not a newb, I just had a brain glitch today about VPN in linux, I jsut need to know how to set it up and I can handle it from there09:05
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arathaldcompilerwriter: but VPN puts me inside the network, so I can access it09:06
compilerwriterYou need to access a network but can't putty to a specific machine then arathald?09:06
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arathaldcompilerwriter: VPN puts you into the network, that's what I'm trying to do09:08
Alarmhello, which package do i need to play an online video stream ? something like online tv for example . with what player can i do that and what plug in is requiered. i did it with mplayer and its plugin, but once the streaming is about to start my system freezes09:08
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arathaldcompilerwriter: once I VPN in, then I will be able to access the machine I need09:08
venik212do I have to re-install the OS?09:09
compilerwriterI have been googling.  I have found mention of the need for 'network-manager-pptp to be installed.09:09
compilerwriterDo you have that at the ready.09:09
arathaldcompilerwriter: and I can ssh to a specific machine, but it doesn't have access to the file I need. My computer needs to be in the network to access it09:09
arathaldcompilerwriter: yes thats installed09:09
arathaldcompilerwriter: as well as vpnc09:10
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arathaldcompilerwriter: when I run it, it doesn't connect tho09:10
compilerwriterAre you using feisty arathald?09:10
payamI need a dictionary09:11
payamDo you know some good dictionary?09:11
arathaldcompilerwriter: no im on Edgy currently09:11
venik212"Kinit: no resume image.  doing normal boot."  ;-(((09:11
compilerwriterarathald Feisty has a mention of some bug that can complicate things.  Give me a second and I will find the article you need.  I have it here somewhere.09:12
Alarmany idea ?09:12
payamI need  dictionary for my linux09:13
payamVad should i do?09:13
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chuenHi. I'm getting frustrated trying to find a Laptop to use with Kubuntu. There seem to be so many issues. My main comsiderations are compatible wifi and audio (with line -in). Any suggestions as to where to look?09:15
DraxNStry other distro... chuen I will do same... probably from exactly same reason09:16
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arathaldcompilerwriter: look, no offense, I know you're trying to be helpful, and I appreciate this, but I know I can get a vpn on this installation, cause ive done it before, and I just need someone who knows exactly how to do it, I've done my own research on it, and i really need to get this done, and ive determined that for some reason theres no good resources readily available, so I just need to find someone who knows exactly how to do this09:19
arathaldcompilerwriter: thanks for trying to help09:19
BWolf85oh lord guys its nice to be back!09:19
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ecambulhelp09:19
BWolf85with?09:20
compilerwriterNo offense taken. arathald I am desperately trying to find a really nice step by step I ran across ages ago when I had to do it once.  The problem is I don't do it on a regular basis.09:20
ecambulsomething can help me09:20
compilerwriter!ask ecambul09:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask ecambul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:20
chuenDraxNS: I would do, but am so familiar with Kubuntu + the good support .... it's tricky.09:20
compilerwriter!ask | ecambul09:20
ubotuecambul: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:20
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GrahamMorning09:29
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Zeelothellooo09:32
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jussi01hello Zeelot09:38
yeniklasor When I set-up snergy, I couldn't connect my cliend-server. Anyone is using Snergy?09:40
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GrahamWhat's snergy?09:44
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crackhead_25question: how do i setup my kubuntu so that i can see and use my desktop over ssh or something remotely????09:47
ohmbrhi, I'm having problens with accents...09:48
ohmbrI have a folder that is shared with windows...09:48
ohmbrthe files on this forlder that has accents does show good on konqueror...09:49
Zeelotcan a delay be added to KSnapshot?09:49
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ohmbrhow do I chage the locale?09:49
DraxNS!locale09:49
ubotuTo set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf09:49
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Zeelotnevermind >_>09:50
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ohmbrubotu: tks...09:53
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tks... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:53
BlueBird22can any one tell how do i decrease the space between icones in file browser or at desktop? in kubuntu09:53
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blackflag!vmware-server09:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vmware-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:55
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andersinCan anybody tell me where XF86AudioMute might be caught/used in kubuntu feisty.09:56
andersinI have a mute key on my keyboard and it does not seem to work.09:57
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andersinIt is reported by xev as XF86AudioMute and I can use it for shortcuts09:57
andersinproblem is, it does not seem to actually trigger them09:57
BlueBird22?09:57
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andersinfor example, if I want to set the "toggle Mute for Master channel" shortcut in kmix, I can set it and it assigns XF86AudioMute to that shortcut09:59
andersinbut if I press the button, nothing happens09:59
andersinpicking another shortcut, e.g. Ctrl+Alt+w works fine09:59
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BlueBird22can any one tell how do i decrease the space between icones in file browser or at desktop? in kubuntu10:03
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Alarmhello. i tried to open an online tv streaming with mplayer (under debian etch) , but somehow i had some problems. i installed the mozilla plugin for mplayer. the problem is that when the video is about to start my system freezes. i cant even restart x , so i need to reset my computer. when i open files localy i dont have problem at all, i only use mplayer actualy10:07
Alarmis there maybe another player that i could use for what i need ? kaffeine tells me that c"ant open demux"10:07
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LjLi don't think this is a Debian support channel...?10:08
nismohi there10:08
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Alarmcould be, but i dont think u would find out if i wouldnt mention. so i prefer being honest10:08
Alarmthey both use the same (almost) packages anyway10:09
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DraxNSdialup anyone? smartlink? on feisty?10:14
DraxNSslmodem.. alsa.. snd-intel.. ati ixp10:15
DraxNSor shall I just deinstall feisty?10:15
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BluesKajDraxNS, here's apage that may help with ati ixp sound : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)10:19
BluesKajand alsa , of course10:20
DraxNSit is not sound that bugs me... but modem10:20
DraxNSit was working on edgy10:20
DraxNSit is NOT working on feisty10:20
DraxNSso.. to conlude.... Feisty is NOT for faint harted....10:21
DraxNSnot even for advanced users....10:21
DraxNSbut playground for linux developers10:21
DraxNSthat should be said10:21
BluesKajwell, i did get fed up like you and went back to edgy , but i eventually bit the bullet and was able to get most things working on feisty....don't give up yet10:22
DraxNStooooo much trouble... and it is not wothed10:23
DraxNSworther10:23
DraxNSaaahhh10:23
DraxNSworthed10:23
DraxNS:-)10:23
BluesKajthere's gotta be a fix for your modem too10:23
DraxNSI have not find one yet10:23
DraxNSand beleive me... I have looked10:23
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DraxNSdont ask google about it... ask me ;-)10:23
DraxNSbug is reported... while back... I just added my comment today... but it looks like noone is looking at that at all10:25
DraxNSon forum also... no valid solution10:25
DraxNSnumerous mailing lists... same thing10:25
DraxNShere... well... I am still asking....10:26
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DraxNSI do not know where else to go.. or who to ask.....10:26
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DraxNSsalckware was a dream... in compare to feisty...10:27
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inteliwaspwhat would be an ideal wireless G card for me to get to run feisty? in pcmcia format...10:31
DraxNSanything with atheros chipset10:32
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l_rhello10:34
BluesKajDraxNS, take alook here, near the bottom of the page  :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&page=14610:34
l_rkubuntu and cups server. is there a bug?10:34
l_ri can't access the server through the kcontrol system10:34
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inteliwaspDraxNS: got any specifics?10:35
l_rnor from localhost:631 . the authentication fails. any idea?10:35
DraxNSinteliwasp: nope... sorry10:35
l_rthere must a be a bug, the same it existed in previous versions of ubuntu10:35
DraxNSBluesKaj: that was not for me... that link? it is about broadcom wifi...10:36
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BluesKajbummer..10:37
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DraxNS:-)10:37
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BluesKajI thot your wifi was connecting to the net thru dialup10:38
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DraxNSnoooo10:39
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DraxNSand I have rt61 not broadcom10:39
DraxNS:-)10:39
DraxNSand it works :-)10:39
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sahey everyone10:40
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BluesKajI thot you may have a modem driver problem10:41
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saanybody that is familiar with bittornado?10:41
GrahamI use Ktorrent for all my piracy needs10:42
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saGraham: ok10:43
GrahamI am against piracy.10:43
GrahamShouldn't shoot at other people's boats.10:43
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saGraham: haha10:44
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sercikHi! is normal if i overclock i can't load powernow_k8 nodule?10:45
serciki always let C&Q enabled in bios10:45
GrahamYes.10:45
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sercikGraham: speak with me?10:46
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arathaldcan anyone help me set up a pptp VPN connection in ubuntu? I've been trying to use pptpconfig, but it keeps saying that it "Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP"10:47
GrahamYou're not being blocked by firewall are you?10:47
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arathaldGraham: you mean on my side or on the VPN server side?10:49
GrahamEither.10:49
arathaldGraham: not on the server side, im not sure about this side, im not entirely sure what that would do or how i would tell10:51
BlueBird22can any one tell any good linux distro specialy build for flash drives ( changing pc and hardware) supported by a good package manager like ubuntu has (for updates and apps).which has kde in it?10:51
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Alarmkaffeine cant handle some urls. when i try to open some links from here: http://wwitv.com/portal.htm i get a demux error and that it cant open the connect.gif file. but once i enter the url manualy on the player it opens the stream10:53
Alarmhow can i fix that10:53
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BlueBird22?10:55
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serciki have deleted a file under /etc/init.d how can i find package that install it again?10:59
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nuusercik: what file was it ?11:01
sercikcpufreqd11:01
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nuudpkg -S /etc/init.d/cpufreq11:02
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serciki thought that reinstalling cpufreqd package it recreate11:02
nuudpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd11:02
serciknot found11:02
nuuwhat's the output of the dpkg -S i gave you ?11:03
sercikthis solution doesn't works11:03
serciknot found11:03
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nuusure the name was "/etc/init.d/cpufreq" ?11:03
nuuand not cpufreqd ?11:03
sercik"/etc/init.d/cpufreq not found"11:03
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sercikyes was cpufreqd11:03
nuudpkg -l "*cpufreq*"11:04
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sercikit print four packages!11:05
serciki reinstall all of them?11:05
nuuwhat are their names ?11:05
BluesKajcpufreqd11:05
sercikcpufreqd cpufrequtils libcpufreq0 xfce4-cpufreq-11:05
sercikHi BluesKaj!11:05
nuusudo dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd11:05
nuusee if the file is now restored.11:06
luissudo br268411:06
luisxD11:06
BluesKajhi sercik11:06
sercikis exactly the package that can't be installed because of lack of cpufreqd file11:06
serciki have tried to install cpufreqd and it want cpufreqd under /ertc/init.d11:06
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nuuwhat are the codes to the left, when you did dpkg -l ?11:07
nuu"ii", "rc", or what ?11:07
nuuit's important that you only consider "ii"11:07
nuudo this: dpkg -l "*cpufreq*" | grep ii11:07
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sercikin fact cpufreqd is not completely installed it give an error at the end of installation11:07
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sercikiF  cpufreqd       2.1.1-111:08
serciki tought that cpufreqd creates that file under /etc/init.d, but it search for...11:08
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nuusudo apt-get install --reisntall cpufreqd11:08
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nuusorry, --reinstall11:09
nuutypo11:09
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sercikis not possible to install!11:09
sercikif fails because don't find that file!11:09
sercikcan you send me that file?11:10
serciksomeone here use edgy??11:10
nuusercik: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd" should work though11:10
nuuthe file should be recreated11:11
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madooy guys ... hello11:11
sercikit tells: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: cpufreqd  rovinato o non completamente installato11:11
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BluesKajwhynot just sudo apt-get install cpufreqd11:11
sercikcpufreqd is damaged or not competely installed11:11
nuusercik: sudo apt-get remove cpufreqd11:11
nuuand then, sudo apt-get install cpufreqd11:11
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nuutry that way...11:12
madoi am sorry ... english isn't my mother-tongue ... but i'd also need some help please11:12
nuu!at | mado11:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about at - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:12
sercikyou don't understand!11:12
nuuhm11:12
nuuat is austria ?11:12
serciki can't do install or uninstall11:12
sercikdpkg gives an error about that files11:12
madoyeah ... at is austria ...11:12
nuumado: so you speak german ?11:12
sercikthat files is not provided from cpufreqd package11:13
madoyeah ... but most germans / austrians and swiss can't help me at the moment ... it is around 11:15 pm in this countries11:13
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madoi'll try to explain my problem into english ... it will also help me to improve my english skills *smiling*11:14
BluesKaj:)11:14
nuusercik: apt-get install -f cpufreqd ... running out of ideas11:14
madotoday i plugged in a microphone in my computer ...11:14
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Grahammado: You'd be terrific at parties.11:15
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madoGraham, -> why?11:15
BluesKajmado, line in ?11:15
madoyup11:15
Graham<mado> today i plugged in a microphone in my computer ...11:15
mado??11:15
BluesKajor mic in on th front11:15
GrahamThat's like the most uninteresting thing I've ever read :P11:15
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madoyeah ... so what? ... i am sorry ... i am not a native speaker11:16
madoi tried to phone a friend via skype and it worked fine ...11:16
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xorlhey11:16
madobut now when i tried it again ... it doesn't work ... and i don't know why11:16
xorlany of you run XGL on KDE? with xinerama?11:16
xorli got +xinerama on the end of the Xgl line11:16
xorlbut it's not working.11:16
l_rdamn . i can't admininstrate the cups server in any way. it refuses to login. any idea?11:16
madodo you guys have an idea?11:16
bkyi need FreeImage (and it's devel) but i can't find it in the repos. is it in them, if so what is the package name?11:17
mado*is waiting*11:17
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Grahammado: Does it still work with skype?11:18
madono ... it doesn't work ...11:18
madoi tried skype test service ... it worked for some seconds ... then it stopped suddenly11:18
madoit sometimes looks like the microphone has it's own will ...11:19
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madosometimes it works ... sometimes nothing works11:19
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GrahamLoose connection?11:19
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madono ... the internet connection was stable11:19
madothe microphone didn't got plugged out or something11:20
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BluesKajmado, could be a bad mic connector ...twist it around a fwew times and hold in at the same time11:22
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madohuh? ... how should that help? ... i'm not sure i understood your suggestion correctly11:23
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BluesKajsometimes there oxidation on the sound card plugins ..i know from experience11:24
sercikmove the cable and the jackl while it's inserted11:24
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nuusercik: join #ubuntu-it in order to speak italian for your questinos11:25
BluesKajwifes's pc is 8 yrs old  ...sometimes contact cleaner can do wonders for all pc connections on it11:25
serciki'm not speaking italian!! what do you mean?11:26
xorllol11:26
nuui mean it may help you to speak italian ;)11:26
BluesKajprego :)11:26
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serciki don't understand!11:26
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sercikno problem...11:27
nuusercik: se non riesci a risolvere in inglese, prova parlando in italiano su #ubuntu-it :)11:27
nuuthat's all i'm saying!11:27
Alarmhow can i change the way kaffeine handles the stream urls?  when i press on a link it cant open the stream, it tries to open a .gif file . but it works when i manualy try to open the url11:28
madoi'll be back11:28
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sercikah ok11:29
sercikbut in this chanell there are more good people11:29
serciki have solved however11:29
serciki have tried a good boy that have send me the dile!11:30
nuusercik: the italian community is an excellent one11:30
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carlosbuenas?11:30
serciknuu i prefer english so i can speak english and i can train my english11:30
nuuok, your call11:30
carlosespaol11:30
carlosola11:30
sercikhere i have always solved my problems11:30
serciknot always but often11:31
Daisuke_Ido!es | carlos11:32
ubotucarlos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.11:32
xorlhow do i disable that shift+delete command crap?11:32
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soulrider_this is gonna sound stupid, but does anyone know if i can disconnect my ps2 keyboard and connect a new one and expect it to work? (thats with the power on)11:38
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ZaphodBeeblebroxGreetings11:38
soulrider_hi ZaphodBeeblebrox11:38
soulrider_long name:P11:38
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ZaphodBeeblebroxHeh.I can't get my microphone to work. Tried everything I've could find.11:38
soulriderthat sucks11:38
ZaphodBeeblebroxlong but cool11:38
ZaphodBeeblebrox:)11:38
soulrideri could never get teamspeak to work for me11:38
ZaphodBeeblebroxyou tell me I can't speak to my boss on Skype11:39
ZaphodBeeblebroxand he's getting a little nervous about it11:39
PhinnFortZaphodBeeblebrox: can you use your microphone in other programs?11:39
PhinnFortaudacity, krec, etc?11:39
PhinnFort!info krec11:39
ZaphodBeeblebroxlet me check sound recorder11:39
ubotukrec: sound recorder utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 352 kB, installed size 1056 kB11:39
ZaphodBeeblebroxnope11:40
PhinnFortno sound?11:40
ZaphodBeeblebroxnothing work11:40
ZaphodBeeblebroxno11:40
ZaphodBeeblebroxno sound11:40
PhinnFortZaphodBeeblebrox: does it work in e. g. windows?11:40
ZaphodBeeblebroxyes11:40
PhinnFortso it's the right plug11:40
PhinnFort;)11:40
ZaphodBeeblebroxheh11:40
PhinnFortclick once on the little speaker down right, and select "mixers"11:41
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PhinnFortthen on input, make sure the mic is glowing red11:42
PhinnFortor, actually the led over the mic11:42
PhinnFortalso, look under switches and check that the right mic input is selected, in case you have several mics11:42
ZaphodBeeblebroxoh just a sec please11:42
ZaphodBeeblebroxsomethings happening11:42
PhinnFortheh11:42
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Daisuke_IdoZaphodBeeblebrox: don't worry, that feeling is completely normal, it's just your brains deciding they need to close something off from the rest.11:43
PhinnFortheh11:43
bkyi need FreeImage (and it's devel) but i can't find it in the repos. is it in them, if so what is the package name?11:44
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ZaphodBeeblebroxThanks a lot guys, but that was weird: I've actually had to unplug the mic and plug it again11:45
fladdhi there11:46
fladdcan anyone tell me, how to see the chat history in kopete?11:46
PhinnFortZaphodBeeblebrox: something probably detected a mic was inserted and made the necessary adjustments11:46
ZaphodBeeblebrox:) I really have to go now talk to my bass bbl11:46
PhinnFortfladd: if the plugin is enabled, right click on a contact and select history11:46
ZaphodBeeblebroxThanks agaion guys11:46
PhinnFortZaphodBeeblebrox: glhf;)11:46
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ZaphodBeeblebrox/window close11:46
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fladdPhinnFort: where to download that plugin?11:46
PhinnFortfladd: you shuld already have it installed11:47
PhinnFortfladd: look under the settings menu11:47
fladdPhinnFort: Mmh11:47
flamiHi , Im trying to get DSDT running to fix acpi , but im not too sure if the custom tables are actually loaded :/ where could ic heck that ?11:47
fladdPhinnFort: oh yeah, it is enabled, but there is no such entry in the context menu of a contact11:48
DraxNSdialup anyone? smartlink? on feisty?11:48
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PhinnFortfladd: I have the equivalent of "show history" (in norwegian)11:48
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fladdPhinnFort: but it seems to me that this plugin is only for showing the last few sentences in a new chatwindow11:48
PhinnFortfladd: not only that11:49
PhinnFortfladd: it records everything you say, and you can use that info in different ways11:49
Daisuke_Idosay...  blackmail.11:49
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PhinnForthttp://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/screenshots/skjermbilde5.png11:50
fladdPhinnFort: that is strange! i do not have this context menu entry. and i also do not have a log folder in .kde/share/apps/kopete. really strange11:51
PhinnForti have three plugins enabled: history, statistics and now listening11:51
DraxNSfladd: enable history in kopete settings11:52
fladdDraxNS: I have the "history" plugin ticked11:52
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PhinnFortfladd: you need to have recorded some history too, obviously11:52
DraxNSnot just plugin... but within kopete settings11:52
PhinnFortfladd: it only records when activated11:52
PhinnFortDraxNS: ?11:53
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fladdPhinnFort: yeah, i use kopete every day, with icq, msn and yabber11:53
DraxNSahh that is NOT chat history??11:53
fladdjabber i mean11:53
DraxNSsorry11:53
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PhinnFortfladd: have you had the plugin enabled before?11:53
PhinnFortbrb11:53
fladdsure11:53
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Solarusevening11:54
Dragnslcrfladd- do you have the "show history in new chat window" option checked?11:54
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fladdDragnslcr: no, not that option (since i don't want that particular feature of the history) but the plugin that entails that option is ticked11:55
Dragnslcrfladd- try turning on that option and see if messages start getting logged11:55
fladdokay...that would be a bug however11:56
DragnslcrI tried searching the bug database for reports about it, but I didn't see anything at first glance11:56
DragnslcrYeah, I'd think that should be a bug11:56
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subsonic_hey guys11:57
subsonic_I want to setup dual booting with XP and Kubuntu11:57
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subsonic_what do you think is the best way to do it? install xp first or kubuntu?11:57
fladdxp first11:58
Jack3how do i use katapult11:59
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fladdJack3: alt+space11:59
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Jack3who this is sweeet11:59
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eguzkiahello someone here have used ANON-PROXY package?12:01
eguzkiai have installed it, but i cannot run it!12:01
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PhinnForteguzkia: what do you mean?12:03
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Levi-Question12:03
PhinnForteguzkia: I've used TOR, and I've set up a CGI proxy12:03
PhinnFort!question12:03
Levi-lol I know that one.. Just ask =P12:03
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:03
eguzkiaPhinnFort: i have installed anon-proxy but when i try to run it, i received an error12:03
Levi-Beat the bot12:03
PhinnFort!info anon-proxy12:03
Levi-Anyway12:03
ubotuanon-proxy: Proxy to surf the web anonymously. In component universe, is optional. Version 00.02.39-8.2 (feisty), package size 119 kB, installed size 340 kB12:03
eguzkiaJAP12:03
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PhinnFortLevi-: that's why I made my own bot, but since ubotu still lives, he isn't allowed on board;)12:04
PhinnForteguzkia: what kind of error?12:04
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Levi-Whats a logical error on Device fd0 during booting without the splash screen mean excatly? Whats device fd0?12:04
PhinnFortLevi-: floppy12:04
Levi-i dont have on12:04
Levi-e12:04
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PhinnFortLevi-: well, that's your logical error;)12:05
os2mac!grub12:05
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto12:05
Levi-lol12:05
eguzkiaPhinnFort: No Listener Interface spezified!12:05
Levi-it ups bootin from live cd a few good minutes12:05
PhinnForteguzkia: have you configured it?12:05
Levi-but.. I turned off acpi and everything just orked12:05
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Levi-*worked12:05
Levi-So i guess no further help is needed! lol12:05
PhinnFortLevi-: ACPI is rather not good12:05
PhinnFortbuggy uxzw12:06
PhinnFort*uzw12:06
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Levi-to turn off?12:06
Levi-or use?12:06
eguzkiaPhinnFort: how12:06
PhinnFortLevi-: no, turn off is good, since ACPI is buggy;)12:06
PhinnForteguzkia: you ask me?12:06
eguzkiaPhinnFort: i don't think12:06
PhinnForteguzkia: it's you who installed it12:06
PhinnFort;)12:06
PhinnForteguzkia: what do you want to do?12:06
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eguzkiaPhinnFort: i'd like try to surf in anon mode12:07
Levi-clearly12:07
PhinnForteguzkia: try TOR12:07
PhinnForteguzkia: it's very anonymous, but a bit slow12:07
Levi-Justas X as starting to come up I got BUG soft *something i cant remember here* on CPU#0 and my compy hung12:08
PhinnForteguzkia: read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOR12:08
PhinnForteguzkia: if you want help setting up TOR and configuring your apps to use it, just ask me12:08
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eguzkiaok12:08
PhinnForteguzkia: but I don't know about that anon-proxy thingy, sorry12:08
PhinnForteguzkia: probably a config file in /etc/ that needs setting up12:08
PhinnFortLevi-: with ACPI?12:08
eguzkiaok12:08
Levi-without12:09
PhinnForthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)12:09
Levi-Right now I need to know how i can save the old Linux data I still have on the drive i want to install to12:09
PhinnFortLevi-: how is it partitioned?12:09
Levi-waait no.. the installers hanging on the partitioner scanner...12:10
Levi-*partition12:10
Levi-well see in a minute12:10
Levi-I dont remember12:10
Levi-im currently on my laptop12:10
Levi-installing Kubuntu 7 on my desktop12:10
PhinnFortLevi-: do you have your /home dir on a separate partition?12:10
Levi-it was a slave12:10
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PhinnFortLevi-: you just need to back up /home to something to have all your settings and documents12:11
Levi-So no there was no home folder on it12:11
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PhinnFortLevi-: when I switched from Gentoo to Kubuntu, I just kept my /home folder, and I hardly noticed the change;)12:11
Levi-No no.. listen12:11
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PhinnFortLevi-: you always have a /home folder12:12
Levi-I had two drives one as master and slave, Master had Kubuntu 6 on it and recently fried so im trying to install 7 onto my slave.12:12
PhinnFortLevi-: and your slave doesn't have the /home folder?12:12
Levi-No12:12
Levi-Thats why i ask12:12
PhinnForthrm12:12
PhinnFortLevi-: well, all your settings and documents are stored in /home12:12
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Levi-hat partiton holds data12:12
Levi-*what12:13
PhinnFortLevi-: that depends on how you set it up12:13
Levi-Not really when you use your secondary drive to hold 4 gbs of music12:13
Levi-Well12:13
Levi-to use my secondary i formatted it to ext312:13
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PhinnFortLevi-: secondary?12:13
PhinnFortslave?12:13
Levi-Yes12:14
Levi-Sorry.12:14
PhinnFortit's okay, it's just getting a bit late12:14
PhinnFort;)12:14
Levi-WAKE UP I NEED YOUR GENIUS12:14
Levi-lo12:14
Levi-l12:14
PhinnFortLevi-: :P12:14
Levi-GAH12:14

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