[12:18] <Graham> There's more
[12:18] <Graham> then sudo iwconfig <device> key "s:<key>"
[12:18] <Graham> then finally sudo dhclient <device>
[12:19] <titanix88> Anyone can tell me h 2 install beryl with dapper without changing main xsession(probably a link pls)?
[12:20] <intelikey> h2o  ?
[12:20] <ads_> any1 familiar with virtualbox?   can i set up a virtual hd on a diff partition or diff hd other than the host os?   i.e im running kubuntu(the host os) i want to be able to run windows xp or vista from a hardrive different to my kubuntu hardrive
[12:20] <kane> anybody know how to tell kide which screen is "1" and which is "2" in a duel screen setup.
[12:20] <kane> ?
[12:21] <mas195> graham: s: is an unrecognized wireless command
[12:22] <xevious> I'm having serious problems with nvidia drivers
[12:22] <titanix88> xevious: what prblms?
[12:23] <Graham> sudo iwconfig <device> key "s:<key>"
[12:23] <xevious> specifically, i have the nvidia-glx-legacy package installed, and 2d works fine but GLX is not loading correctly. The nvidia kernel module loads fine. In Xorg.0.log it says that the GLX module loads correctly. But when I try to run glxgears to test it, I get this error: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". \ Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[12:23] <xevious> glxinfo crashes
[12:24] <xevious> well. glxinfo fills up my screen with stuff about GLX being missing and then does a core dump
[12:24] <titanix88> xevious:tried "sudo nvidia-xconfig"?
[12:24] <eljefe> kane: not sure but something to do with 'leftof' or 'rightof' i think... but maybe its '1 leftof 2' and i am not solving anything for you ;\
[12:24] <Jucato> legacy will have to use "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" iirc
[12:25] <bomber> kane if you go to the kmenu and go to system settings
[12:25] <xevious> my xorg.conf file is fine
[12:25] <xevious> i'm in X right now. 2d works a-ok
[12:25] <titanix88> xevious:i recommend u try nvidia-xconfig.
[12:25] <bomber> then monitor and display click administrator mode and it should let you change which one is 1'st and 2nd
[12:25] <xevious> # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
[12:26] <xevious> that's the first line of my xorg.conf
[12:26] <bomber> i dont have dualies but it looks like it will work
[12:26] <marko_> why they are not many games in ubuntu repos
[12:26] <kane> bomber: thanks
[12:26] <marko_> like warsaw cube vdrift glest ...
[12:26] <bomber> np
[12:26] <titanix88> xevious: what's ur graphics card?
[12:27] <ads_> im running dual nvdia
[12:27] <intelikey> it appears that according to the "statistics counter" if your nick appears twice in a row. you are talking to your self.    (channel statistics)
[12:27] <intelikey> that obviously doesn't take copy and paste into account,
[12:27] <intelikey> as well as when one sends several lines to one individule without waiting for their reply
[12:27] <xevious> titanix88: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV15 [GeForce2 GTS/Pro]  (rev a4)
[12:27] <bomber> heya ds
[12:27] <bomber> ads that is
[12:27] <drblood> can u download regular aim
[12:27] <bomber> are you using the nvidia drivers?
[12:27] <drblood> or sum how get in an aim chat using kopete
[12:27] <ads_> yes
[12:28] <bomber> with the newest kubuntu?
[12:28] <ads_> i had to make some changes to enable dual screen effectively
[12:28] <drblood> my friends tried to invite me to a chat its not working
[12:28] <drblood> im using kubuntu 7.4 feista
[12:28] <xevious> titanix88: using the 7184 driver that's in the repos
[12:28] <ads_> sec ill find the link
[12:28] <xevious> feisty, all updated
[12:29] <xevious> did a fresh install a week ago or so
[12:29] <titanix88> xevious:maybe u need "nvidia-glx" not "nvidia-glx-legacy"?
[12:29] <intelikey> drblood gaim ?
[12:29] <mas195> graham: network konsole reported that now dhcp network is available and the adpater is now sleeping, but i have a windows laptop in a different room that is connected wirelessly via dhcp
[12:29] <drblood> ?
[12:29] <xevious> titanix88: the READMEs on nvidia.com indicate 71xx series
[12:29] <bomber> i couldnt get the nvidia drivers working.... messed up the install
[12:29] <ph8> hey again
[12:29] <drblood> the aim used on internet
[12:29] <drblood> O_o
[12:29] <ph8> in this day and age, do i still need ot setup a chroot to play flash in firefox, or run vmware-server?
[12:30] <intelikey> drblood sudo apt-get install gaim
[12:30] <drblood> kk
[12:30] <ads_> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#how_to_setup_Dual_Monitors_with_NVidia_in_Feisty_Fawn
[12:30] <ads_> tried this^^
[12:31] <titanix88> drblood: kopete should work fine :?
[12:32] <drblood> it doesnt allow u to go in chats on aim
[12:32] <drblood> u kno a chat with more than 1 person
[12:33] <igniter> I'm looking for a program to limit my download speed on my own computer, what's an easy to use program that can do that? Thank you!
[12:33] <mas195> graham: network konsole reported that now dhcp network is not available and the adpater is now sleeping, but i have a windows laptop in a different room that is connected wirelessly via dhcp
[12:33] <_StefanS_> igniter: use kget, and set the download speed limit
[12:33] <ads_> any virtualbox gurus?
[12:34] <igniter> thank you _StefanS_, I'm going to check it
[12:34] <drblood> how do u make the snow fall
[12:34] <drblood> using beryl
[12:34] <drblood> i forgot :/
[12:34] <ads_> rain?
[12:35] <drblood> rain or snow
[12:35] <drblood> idc
[12:35] <drblood> sumethin cool
[12:35] <ads_> haha  okz well after uve enabled it in    beryl settings manager|extras
[12:35] <Roxy> Hello I'm having some problems with KNetwork in that one it has a tendency to stall randomly at different spots and two, seems to be incapable of connecting to a WEP protected network anyone have a solution =\ ?
[12:36] <ads_> then the shortcut key  is alt f8  i believe    it will tell u the shortcut key under the water effects then shortcuts
[12:36] <ads_> mind u if youre not running a decent card it will freeze up ur system
[12:36] <xevious> so how long does it usually take for a new nvidia driver to make it to the repos?
[12:36] <Emess> hi, couldnt get feisty to work on this old box iv got so tried edgy to recieve this error: mount: function not implemented - any ideas?
[12:36] <drblood> im in extras
[12:36] <drblood> i have water effect checked off
[12:36] <xevious> i'd rather use the packages from the repos for easier updating in the future (my mom's computer)
[12:37] <drblood> delay is 137
[12:37] <drblood> amplitude
[12:37] <ads_> xevious strange im running a geforce 5200 fx  and i have no problems with beta drivers
[12:37] <drblood> .8000
[12:37] <drblood> so wat i do?
[12:37] <Emess> found this 'answer' but i have almsot no idea what it means https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/66585
[12:38] <ads_> shortcut tab
[12:38] <drblood> so how do u use the rain?
[12:38] <ads_> drblood: shortcut tab in water effect
[12:38] <ads_> look to see what is assigned
[12:39] <ads_> virtualbox   any1???
[12:39] <drblood> its shift+f9
[12:39] <ads_> ther u go then  hav fun ;)
[12:39] <drblood> is there a way to have rain comming down
[12:39] <drblood> not ripples
[12:39] <drblood> or have snow :O
[12:40] <ads_> no idea sry      virtualbox   any1   pretty pls?
[12:41] <drblood> theres a way to make sno
[12:41] <drblood> snow*
[12:41] <igniter> kget can't do what I need, I'm looking for a program that'll limit the speed of anything I might be downloading, like youtube videos or the loading speed of web pages, any program that can do that?
[12:42] <ads_> ya  wud be nice to hav a way to control all outbound connections vis bandwidth
[12:42] <ads_> via*
[12:42] <mas195> graham: network konsole reported that now dhcp network is not available and the adpater is now sleeping, but i have a windows laptop in a different room that is connected wirelessly via dhcp
[12:42] <igniter> on xp I used a program called netlimiter
[12:43] <notme> is there another client as frostwire but not in java? java takes soo much resources
[12:43] <Arwen> notme, err, amule
[12:43] <Arwen> or, gnutella I think
[12:43] <notme> Arwen: well but amule is terribly slow
[12:43] <Arwen> well, those are my suggestions, you're free to use what you want.
[12:44] <ads_> Arwen: used virtualbox?
[12:44] <Arwen> ads_, err, nope
[12:44] <ads_> okz np
[12:44] <notme> gnutella, mm i'm gona try it, is it a GTK app?
[12:44] <Arwen> notme, yes. Everything is GTK.
[12:45] <Arwen> !gnutella
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnutella - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <Arwen> ...
[12:45] <Arwen> notme, you could use limewire if you want
[12:46] <Arwen> oh wait, that's java too
[12:46] <Roxy> Does anyone know of a replacement for KNetwork?
[12:47] <notme> Arwen: i'm searching a bit, and gnutella is only the protocol, so there's choices, hehe
[12:48] <notme> Arwen: I dont want to use frostwire because it uses 60-70% of one of my cores
[12:48] <ubuntu_> Hi. I have create 4 partitie's for 3 linux systems and 1 Windows but how can i install it on SDA3 ?
[12:48] <igniter> nevermind my question, I love Adept, typed "bandwidth" and there are at least 2 programs that may be able to limit the bandwidth
[12:48] <Jucato> !info gtk-gnutella
[12:48] <ubotu> gtk-gnutella: shares files in a peer to peer network. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.96.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2205 kB, installed size 7548 kB
[12:49] <Jucato> Arwen: ^^^
[12:49] <Arwen> notme, you *could* just not warez stuff :-P
[12:49] <Arwen> Jucato, ok
[12:49] <Jucato> !info libgnutella-gift
[12:49] <ubotu> libgnutella-gift: giFT plugin for the Gnutella network. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.10.1-1 (feisty), package size 164 kB, installed size 732 kB
[12:49] <mas195> anyone else want to take a crack at why i cannot connect wirelessly to my AP when my winblows machine will connect without a problem
[12:50] <igniter> mas195: just a guess, is dhcp enabled on the router if you're using one?
[12:51] <mas195> yes, dhcp works fine and it is wep enabled but kubuntu keeps telling me that the adpater is unable to locate a network and puts the adapter to sleep
[12:53] <Ace2016> hi all
[12:53] <Ace2016> anyone here use synaptic to install software?
[12:54] <Jucato> Ace2016: you can try asking the question directly. someone might know
[12:54] <Jucato> or in the absence of an answer, dare to ask in #ubuntu :)
[12:55] <Ace2016> Jucato: i start synaptic usin; kdesu synaptic, since upgrading to kde 3.5.7 my kicker crashes whwnever i install something in synaptic
[12:58] <Jucato> Ace2016: kicker crashes, but not Synaptic? hm...
[12:58] <Ace2016> Jucato: yup
[12:59] <Jucato> strange.. :(
[01:00] <BlueBird22>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent says i dont need anything like a driver or ltmodem. and its says you need to have a symlink created on boot (from /dev/ttyLTM0 to /dev/modem).   if  i follow all that.  and is my modem on ttyLTM0 ? i doubt it
[01:00] <Jucato> Ace2016: doesn't happen with Adept Manager
[01:01] <ksnipz> was wondering if someone could me, I've installed all the aac codecs but when I try to run ffmpeg with -acodec aac I get a aac codec not found error, anyone have any ideas on how I could fix this? I've tried recompiling and installing from source with the enable libfaac option but still nothing
[01:01] <Ace2016> Jucato: don't like adept, synaptic's layout is nicer
[01:01] <Roxy> Ummmm Jucato would you know an alternative progream to KNetwork for managing wireless and ethernet connections >_>
[01:01] <ph8> kick it
[01:01] <Jucato> Ace2016: I'm not asking if you like Adept or not. just asking whether Adept makes kicker crash too :)
[01:01] <ph8> lol sorry - was scrolled up
[01:02] <Jucato> Roxy: hm... nope :(
[01:02] <Ace2016> Jucato: oh i'll check
[01:02] <Roxy> :<
[01:02] <mas195> igniter: yes, dhcp works fine and it is wep enabled but kubuntu keeps telling me that the adpater is unable to locate a network and puts the adapter to sleep
[01:02] <Roxy> KNetwork keeps freezing and can't seem to deal with WEP connections
[01:02] <Ace2016> Jucato: how do you start it? kdesu adept doesn't work
[01:02] <BlueBird22>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent says i dont need anything like a driver or ltmodem. and its says you need to have a symlink created on boot (from /dev/ttyLTM0 to /dev/modem).   if  i follow all that.  and is my modem on ttyLTM0 ? i doubt it
[01:02] <Jucato> Ace2016: kdesu adept_manager
[01:03] <Ace2016> -_-
[01:03] <notme> is VLC gtk?
[01:04] <Jucato> notme: no. wxWidgets
[01:04] <Jucato> they're moving to Qt though
[01:04] <Jucato> notme: but wxWidgets uses GTK"s appearance on Linux
[01:04] <Roxy> is it relatively safe to run a fsck on Fiesty?
[01:04] <BlueBird22>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent says i dont need anything like a driver or ltmodem. and its says you need to have a symlink created on boot (from /dev/ttyLTM0 to /dev/modem).   if  i follow all that.  and is my modem on ttyLTM0 ? i doubt it
[01:04] <mas195> igniter: interestingly, when i launch dhclient from konsole, it shows that it is trying to connect to a network in the 255.255.255.255 instead of 255.0
[01:04] <notme> Jucato: I hope, couse for some reazon the lower bar doesnt behave as expected
[01:06] <intelikey> what iz zees "line 81: echo: write error: Interrupted system call"  ?
[01:06] <fabio> hello
[01:06] <intelikey> anyone seen that kind of error before ?
[01:07] <compilerwriter> Where does one go to cancel a print job?  I got lucky and the printer was out of paper. :-)
[01:07] <intelikey> compilerwriter cups manager
[01:08] <compilerwriter> intelikey The only time I have seen such a line is when a programmer put the blasted thing in as a debug tool.
[01:08] <Biovore> oO
[01:09] <intelikey> compilerwriter well that's not the case there.   it's a shell script and echo 'blah' should work there.
[01:09] <compilerwriter> Sounds like a syntax error occurred around line 81 then, intelikey.
[01:10] <ads_> syntax error?! u sjur?
[01:10] <Ace2016> test
[01:11] <intelikey> compilerwriter one might think so... but why has that script worked without error for many months and still does now.    but that one time it errored with that message ?       sorry syntax error doesn't add up.   other thoughts ?
[01:14] <ads_> virtualbox...  possible to add virtual hds on hds other than the host os hd????
[01:15] <Ace2016> Jucato: kicker krashed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:15] <Jucato> Ace2016: hm... then seems to be a deeper problem than just synaptic
[01:17] <mas195> %c9 igniter: interestingly, when i launch dhclient from konsole, it shows that it is trying to connect to a network in the 255.255.255.255 instead of 255.0
[01:17] <Ace2016> Jucato: here is the crash log; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23522/
[01:18] <Jucato> argh.. I'm no good at debugging :(
[01:18] <ejupin> Anyone know how I can configure my mp3 player with Amarok? Thought I had the string set, but it doesnt see it..
[01:19] <Trickser> hi, in kmail when i answer a message, I get a mixture of english and german for the templates. For example: "On Freitag 01 Juni 2007, <someone> wrote:"
[01:19] <Trickser> How can I solve it? in the template stands  for example "On DATE, FROMNAME wrote:"
[01:20] <Trickser> On \DATE, \FROMNAME wrote:
[01:20] <Trickser> sorry, the percentage sign is not shown...
[01:21] <intelikey> which target lang ?
[01:21] <hyuma> hello
[01:21] <hyuma> I've problem during the boot
[01:21] <hyuma> I get this error
[01:21] <hyuma> "dma timeout error"
[01:22] <hyuma> the boot is very slow
[01:22] <hyuma> how can I fix ?
[01:22] <Biovore> buggy hardware?
[01:22] <hyuma> can't think so
[01:22] <Trickser> intelikey: my current language is german, but i want to have english templates there
[01:22] <Arwen> hyuma, it means Kubuntu fails to activate DMA, so it probably means your hard drive controller is badly supported
[01:22] <Arwen> or that your hard drive just sucks
[01:23] <hyuma> mmh
[01:23] <hyuma> I've 4 HDDs, 2 IDE and 2 on SATA PCI
[01:23] <supernova_> why do i get an error when typing kcontrol in the konsole? (fresh ubuntu install)
[01:23] <Arwen> hyuma, sorry to be nitpicky, but SATA is a kind of IDE too
[01:24] <kane> anyone know why X wouldnt be picking the first meta mode to start up with?
[01:24] <intelikey> Trickser ummm   you would make it difficult.   maybe LC_ALL=C %var      not sure that will work there...
[01:24] <Arwen> anyway, try booting your live cd and seeing if hard drive access is slow
[01:24] <hyuma> if the boot from cd is good
[01:24] <Trickser> intelikey: in the previous version of kde it was possible...
[01:24] <hyuma> I must put my hdd on the garbagE?
[01:25] <Trickser> intelikey: now i updated to feisty, i think the problem is with the new version of kde
[01:25] <supernova_> can someone type kcontrol in the console and se if a error message accurs?
[01:25] <Trickser> intelikey: previously one could select the language
[01:25] <Arwen> hyuma, possibly. This might be a good time to swap out your PATA drives for SATA ones.
[01:25] <hyuma> thanks arwen
[01:26] <Trickser> intelikey: in the kmail configuration menu
[01:26] <intelikey> Trickser may still be a way.   if you can catch Jucato or fdoving  on that,  i've not seen the feisty release: so i'm in over my head there.
[01:26] <Arwen> hyuma, sorry I couldn't fix your problem :-(
[01:26] <hyuma> don't worry
[01:26] <hyuma> this linux hdd is very old
[01:27] <hyuma> 20GB
[01:27] <hyuma> how can I show you info about that HDD?
[01:27] <galaxygazer> I cant get my sound card working, its an hda-intel.. yes I know, I've looked at the help forum.. Someone should get ALSA config working for kubuntu that would sort it out
[01:27] <compilerwriter> Well crap it seems that the job is out of Cups and already to the printer is there a way to stop it now?
[01:27] <Biovore> hdparm /dev/hda?
[01:27] <intelikey> compilerwriter reset the printer ?
[01:28] <supernova_> can someone please type kcontrol in the console and se if a error message accurs?
[01:28] <Jucato> er sorry Trickser, no idea on that
[01:28] <Jucato> supernova_: what error message?
[01:28] <Biovore> supernova_: works here
[01:28] <Trickser> Jucato: ok, thanks
[01:28] <defcon> I need some help with chown, for some reason when I chown -R defcon:defcon .* while im in /home/defcon it changes all of owner ship in /home/* to defcon
[01:28] <hyuma> thanks Biovore
[01:29] <Jucato> defcon: no. there should be no . before the * afaik
[01:29] <hyuma> I notice that DMA of /dev/hda is off
[01:29] <intelikey> defcon yes  because   ~/.*   includes   ~/../
[01:29] <hyuma> and in W$ too, DMA not working....
[01:29] <hyuma> I can connect the problem on both OS
[01:29] <defcon> intelikey, so what is the right syntax
[01:30] <Jucato> intelikey: it will only change the ownership of hidden files
[01:30] <defcon> does chown change the hidden fines? with *?
[01:30] <defcon> no it is recursing to /home/* while im in /home/defcon/
[01:30] <hyuma> [17179607.380000]  hda: DMA timeout error
[01:30] <hyuma> [17179607.388000]  hda: dma timeout error: status=0x58 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest }
[01:31] <defcon> i screwed all my permissions up on my system
[01:31] <intelikey> defcon sudo chown `whoami`:`groups | cut -d' ' -f1` ~/.??*
[01:31] <Biovore> ^ looks like a dead or dieing disk
[01:31] <hyuma> Biovore: can I see infos about HDD? manufacter, datas, etc..
[01:31] <defcon> intelikey, thankyou, how do I do it for another user
[01:31] <Ace2016> hi all
[01:31] <defcon> accept myself
[01:32] <Ace2016> how do you find the install date of kubuntu? i want to know how old the install is
[01:32] <Ace2016> maybe time to reinstall
[01:32] <intelikey> defcon sudo chown <theirname>:<thiergroup> ~/.??*
[01:32] <galaxygazer> Ace just upgrade it with package manager its easier than whipein it out
[01:32] <intelikey> and ~ should be <their home>
[01:33] <defcon> thankyou intelikey
[01:33] <intelikey> defcon note i didn't make those recursive.  but you can.
[01:34] <Ace2016> galaxygazer: well its not that i need to reinstall windows and also get rid of quite a lot of messed up configs
[01:34] <defcon> also, I screwed up my permissions big time, how do I set all my permissions so kde/gnome runs without giving me permission errors
[01:34] <defcon> and other programs are giving me errors
[01:34] <defcon> like firefox and things that use .* dir's
[01:35] <terrestre> hi everyone
[01:35] <galaxygazer> o ic
[01:35] <Trickser> intelikey: i found the solution, you have to use other commands, like DATEEN, which is the data in C locale
[01:35] <hyuma> terrestre hi, you're from italy?
[01:36] <intelikey> defcon chmod -R 750 ~/ ;find ~/ -type f -exec chmod 640 '{}' \;
[01:36] <defcon> intelikey, what does that do exactly
[01:36] <defcon> lol
[01:36] <terrestre> hyuma: no, im from latinamerican :)
[01:36] <hyuma> ok
[01:37] <intelikey> defcon that won't include executables.  if you have things that need executed.  you'll need to set them by hand.
[01:37] <defcon> ok
[01:37] <defcon> thankyou
[01:37] <intelikey> Trickser thank you;  noted.
[01:37] <defcon> where can I learn these advanced commands
[01:38] <intelikey> these are not "advanced" commands  these are the linux basics.     ls /bin    and man <what ever you see there that you want to know about>
[01:38] <Tevlin> Any program for Linux and Windows that would allow me to enter a command to launch a program on another computer?
[01:39] <Tevlin> I have Kubuntu on a virtual machine in Windows, and it would be nice to be able to click a KDE shortcut and have a Windows program open on the host
[01:39] <intelikey> telnet, ssh, freenx, and others...
[01:39] <Tevlin> How would I do that for a single command though?
[01:40] <intelikey> "to click a KDE shortcut and have a Windows program open"    hehhe.   never mind.
[01:40] <Tevlin> lol
[01:40] <Tevlin> Thought I'd at least ask.
[01:41] <intelikey> wine
[01:41] <Tevlin> Didn't expect an easy answer
[01:41] <wtf> anyone know where kde keeps its resolution related settings?
[01:41] <Tevlin> heh, true
[01:41] <Tevlin> Though this would be for games
[01:41] <ph8> ?beryl
[01:41] <ph8> !beryl
[01:41] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:41] <intelikey> Tevlin however.   ssh and expect could be used to make small scripts that would do what you asked about.
[01:42] <Tevlin> Oh?
[01:42] <Tevlin> So I could do it in a shortcut?
[01:43] <intelikey> yes but it's not "easy" to set it up
[01:43] <Tevlin> Oh that doesn't bother me
[01:43] <Tevlin> Might actually like it if it's hard
[01:43] <Tevlin> More learning experience
[01:43] <Tevlin> :P
[01:44] <mas195> any suggestions as to why my knetwork manager does not "see" my wireless network or AP?  the ap works fine for winblows in another room...
[01:44] <intelikey> then setup ssh so you can do what you want to acomplish manually   then use expect to answer the prompts to automate the process.
[01:44] <Tevlin> Alright, I'll read up on expect, thank you
[01:44] <intelikey> np.
[01:45] <intelikey> Tevlin one other thing.   when you install expect  there are some example scripts you can learn from    dpkg -L expect      for a list of what all it installs
[01:46] <Tevlin> Would I need cygwin for this? The commands would be executed on Windows from the guest Linux
[01:47] <intelikey> no you don't need anything special on the windows end   just the normall putty or what ever you connect ssh to
[01:47] <Tevlin> Understandable
[01:48] <Tevlin> I'm not much of a fan if it personally, but it has to be my host because of games and because my laptop won't run Linux
[01:48] <hamalawy> hello everyone.. i just installed kubuntu a few hours, kubuntu ruuuuuuuuuullllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[01:48] <Tevlin> The idea of this would be to minimize Windows usage even further
[01:48] <intelikey> "because my laptop won't run Linux"    why not ?
[01:48] <supernova_> how do i update to the latest kde version?
[01:49] <Tevlin> Well, it's true that if I fought with it, I might be able to get it working on the laptop
[01:49] <hamalawy> no more crapy windows xp, vista or whatever bill gate$  is preparing for the next 1000000000 years
[01:49] <Tevlin> Hehe
[01:49] <galaxygazer> hamalawy: yeah its cool aint it
[01:50] <hamalawy> it's hyper mega ultra awsome
[01:50] <Tevlin> But I actually like running it on a virtual machine
[01:50] <Tevlin> Balmer does now, doesn't he?
[01:50] <Tevlin> The chair throwing guy
[01:50] <galaxygazer> I cant get my sound card working on it tho.. but hopefully they'll come up with a fix.. just have to go without movies for a while
[01:50] <federico_> Ciao
[01:51] <federico_> Somobody speaks italian?
[01:51] <intelikey> !it
[01:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:51] <crimsun> galaxygazer: what's the issue with your sound card?
[01:51] <intelikey> the bot seems to...
[01:51] <federico_> Scusate, grazie e ciao
[01:51] <galaxygazer> neit comrade we only speek russian in here! :))
[01:56] <intelikey> T() { Q() { T } ; Q } ;T
[01:57] <galaxygazer> ? netsplit
[01:57] <Jucato> void *intelikey = NULL;
[01:58] <crimsun> 19:51 < crimsun> galaxygazer: what's the issue with your sound card?
[01:58] <crimsun> galaxygazer: I'm awaiting your answer.
[01:59] <galaxygazer> crimsun: its an hda-intel card.. ive looked at the help forums but there solutions havent worked for me so far
[02:00] <galaxygazer> but im hopeful I can get it working, if not i'll just have to wait till they figure out a fix
[02:00] <crimsun> galaxygazer: I need some more information than what you've provided.  Please read http://www.linux-sound.info/alsa/index.php?task=support and tell me the URL of the paste generated by the script linked from that page.
[02:00] <galaxygazer> it worked fine on slackware using alsa conf
[02:00] <galaxygazer> ok
[02:01] <galaxygazer> that script seems a bit long winded why dont I just use terminal and type lspci
[02:01] <galaxygazer> ?
[02:01] <galaxygazer> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[02:02] <intelikey> ooops.  don't do that "T() { Q() { T;  }; Q;  } ;T"   it's ugly.
[02:03] <mas195> can someone give me the konsole command to terminate the database access for adept manager?
[02:03] <crimsun> galaxygazer: it's longwinded purposefully.
[02:03] <galaxygazer> ok
[02:03] <crimsun> galaxygazer: we wrote it to pull _all_ the information that we need to debug.
[02:03] <galaxygazer> ill get it and run it
[02:04] <crimsun> i.e., the line from lspci is insufficient.
[02:04] <galaxygazer> crimsun who do I submit the output too?
[02:05] <crimsun> galaxygazer: you're supposed to download the script and run it.
[02:05] <crimsun> it will post all the information to http://pastebin.ca and give you a URL.  Then you'll tell me the URL.
[02:05] <galaxygazer> ok
[02:07] <galaxygazer> great it didnt upload it
[02:07] <crimsun> run it again
[02:07] <galaxygazer> it says
[02:07] <galaxygazer> Your ALSA information is located at
[02:07] <galaxygazer> Please inform the person helping you.
[02:08] <galaxygazer> no URL .. :(
[02:09] <crimsun> galaxygazer: execute it with --debug
[02:10] <crimsun> bash ./alsa-info.sh --debug
[02:10] <crimsun> galaxygazer: then pastebin the contents of /tmp/alsa-info.txt somewhere
[02:11] <galaxygazer> k
[02:11] <intelikey> crimsun confirmed; either pastebin.ca is not working properly or the script is broken.
[02:12] <crimsun> intelikey: pastebin.ca has blocked uploads from the script due to its usage
[02:12] <crimsun> about a thousand people have used it
[02:12] <greg_g> Could someone please take a look at this post, I think the solution is probably easy and I did most of the work already, just need the finishing touches.  Thanks.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=460210
[02:12] <crimsun> it's being flagged as spam
[02:12] <ph8> does anyone know how to add start commands to my session in kde?
[02:12] <galaxygazer> nope im still .. bash: ./alsa-info.sh: cannot execute binary file
[02:12] <intelikey> i see.  ok.
[02:12] <crimsun> galaxygazer: did you save it as a text file?
[02:13] <galaxygazer> yes want me to email it over?
[02:13] <crimsun> galaxygazer: no, use another pastebin, like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:13] <galaxygazer> k
[02:13] <crimsun> galaxygazer: and I need the txt file, not the shell script
[02:14] <intelikey> oh nice.  now anyone that tries to use that script, their ip is flaged as spam....
[02:14] <intelikey> can't even browse pastebin.ca
[02:15] <crimsun> the next time you go to http://pastebin.ca, you should be redirected to a web page that allows you to unmark yourself
[02:15] <galaxygazer> now it wont even re-run the script.. never mind, it was a nice offer to help, but i'll get it working
[02:15] <crimsun> galaxygazer: you don't need to rerun the script.  /tmp/alsa-info.txt should exist.
[02:15] <crimsun> galaxygazer: I have vested interest in making it work; I'm an upstream dev for it.
[02:15] <crimsun> it->sound.
[02:16] <mas195> can someone give me the konsole command to terminate the database access for adept manager?
[02:16] <Biovore> If 1000/4 = 400 then computer nerd you be..
[02:16] <intelikey> crimsun yeah it says name removed but it obviously didn't work.  still blocked.
[02:16] <intelikey> wait that may have been a cache problem.
[02:17] <galaxygazer> unfortunatly I can see no file
[02:17] <intelikey> ok it was reading the cached page.  my bad.
[02:17] <galaxygazer> it just errored up and now it wont reload
[02:18] <galaxygazer> ALSAconf would get it working if there was an ALSACONF on kubuntu..
[02:18] <galaxygazer> but under man -k alsa there is no alsaconf
[02:19] <happytiger> galaxygazer: use asoundconf
[02:19] <crimsun> galaxygazer: alsaconf doesn't work in many situations, plus it uses insecure file handling, so we stopped shipping it.
[02:19] <crimsun> galaxygazer: anyhow, redownload the script from the web site I gave you earlier, then run it with --debug
[02:19] <crimsun> galaxygazer: then paste /tmp/alsa-info.txt somewhere, and tell me the url
[02:22] <galaxygazer> k I got the txt uploading it now
[02:23] <galaxygazer> heres the like crimsun http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23529/
[02:25] <crimsun> galaxygazer: thanks, looking now
[02:25] <galaxygazer> let me know if you can suggest a fix, im stumped ;)
[02:26] <galaxygazer> im a newbie, not very linux wise yet, but im not doing too baddly considering ive only been using it for 3 weeks
[02:27] <crimsun> oh, you got bitten by the codec mask issue
[02:27] <galaxygazer> as you can see from my text output ive mastered using cat lol
[02:27] <galaxygazer> what mask should I set?
[02:27] <crimsun> ok, first we need to unload all sound modules.
[02:27] <galaxygazer> I can do that with the rescue kernel cant I?
[02:28] <crimsun> No need to reboot.  Use these commands (copy & paste): kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*);sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}')
[02:28] <galaxygazer> or should I use your script
[02:28] <galaxygazer> k
[02:29] <galaxygazer> lsof: status error on /dev/dsp*: No such file or directory
[02:29] <galaxygazer> lsof: status error on /dev/audio*: No such file or directory
[02:29] <galaxygazer> thats the only output
[02:29] <crimsun> good
[02:29] <crimsun> now: sudo modprobe snd-hda-codec
[02:29] <intelikey> galaxygazer normal.  it worked
[02:30] <galaxygazer> done it
[02:30] <crimsun> good.  Now: sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1
[02:30] <galaxygazer> done
[02:31] <galaxygazer> is that it? is it working??? erm is there anything I need to add to modprobe.d/alsa-conf??
[02:32] <hendaus> anyone friends with gnokii? thanx
[02:32] <terrestre> oops, i just del my root account,
[02:32] <galaxygazer> your a star for helping me out, its not working yet tho
[02:32] <intelikey> hendaus not me.  we aren't even on speeking terms.
[02:33] <intelikey> terrestre you did what ?
[02:33] <crimsun> galaxygazer: are you testing with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' ?
[02:33] <galaxygazer> yeap
[02:33] <crimsun> galaxygazer: ok, now repeat the above unload and reload steps, except this time use probe_mask=3
[02:34] <galaxygazer> k
[02:34] <intelikey> terrestre can you explain ?
[02:35] <galaxygazer> FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[02:35] <crimsun> galaxygazer: dmesg|tail -10
[02:35] <terrestre> yeah i was probe some comand, adduser, etc... and then i type sudo deluser root, and no more sudo, no more nothing, maybe i have to reinstall. dont do that
[02:35] <crimsun> use a pastebin
[02:35] <terrestre> and sorry for my english
[02:37] <igniter> bye all and thanks!
[02:37] <galaxygazer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23531/ <~ crimsun
[02:37] <crimsun> galaxygazer: which commands did you just use?
[02:37] <intelikey> terrestre lol.  ok.    reboot the live CD    and mount the root file system of the installed ubuntu    then move the file     mounted/etc/passwd~    to  mounted/etc/passwd      you might want to copy  mounted/etc/passwd  first to some place safe on the hd.
[02:37] <galaxygazer> dmesg|tail -10
[02:38] <intelikey> terrestre that "backup" copy is there for that very reason.
[02:38] <galaxygazer> and the kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/audio* /dev/mixer* /dev/snd/*);sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod|grep ^snd|awk '{print $1}') followed with the sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=
[02:38] <galaxygazer> I put probe_mask=3
[02:39] <crimsun> galaxygazer: ok, now repeat with probe_mask=4
[02:39] <galaxygazer> k
[02:40] <galaxygazer> nah same error
[02:40] <flake> I'm playing with my keyboard shortcuts, where do I look to specify 'pop-up' Panel 2 which is normally auto-hidden ?
[02:40] <galaxygazer> FATAL: Error inserting snd_hda_intel (/lib/modules/2.6.20-16-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
[02:41] <terrestre> thanks intelikey, jajaja its was funny, i miss a warning saying "dont do that"
[02:42] <crimsun> galaxygazer: and probe_mask=2 ?
[02:42] <flake> in feisty is it still not safe to write to ntfs drives?
[02:42] <galaxygazer> trying
[02:42] <flake> i want to set up a file server, and at the moment the drives are write protected
[02:42] <galaxygazer> nope same fatal error
[02:43] <cntb> my  gparted  liveCD is no good for huge disks
[02:44] <cntb> what can be done to resize?
[02:44] <galaxygazer> should I keep trying probe_mask upto 9 to find the one that works? if there is one?
[02:44] <cntb> my  gparted  liveCD is no good for huge disks
[02:45] <crimsun> galaxygazer: the only valid values are 0-3
[02:45] <crimsun> -1 and 4 are the boundary cases
[02:46] <galaxygazer> :( looks like im shagged then..
[02:48] <crimsun> well, does omitting probe_mask completely work?
[02:48] <crimsun> in this context, "work" means "allow the module to load"
[02:48] <galaxygazer> I tried something on one of the help forums, would the fact ive got this entry in the alsa-base be the cause of this? options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto
[02:48] <crimsun> oh god
[02:49] <crimsun> you didn't tell me you had a modprobe entry
[02:49] <galaxygazer> I take that as a yes
[02:49] <galaxygazer> I'll remove it
[02:50] <galaxygazer> k its gone does that mean start from step one and retry it all over again after a reboot??
[02:50] <crimsun> no need to reboot
[02:50] <galaxygazer> k
[02:50] <crimsun> you just need to start with probe_mask=0 and go through 3.
[02:50] <galaxygazer> k
[02:52] <supernova_> can someone tell me why you have to run apt-get clean every tme? why can you install the clean feat onec?
[02:53] <crimsun> you don't need to use the clean target
[02:53] <supernova_> how do you mean (im a linux noob)?
[02:53] <kane> its true, why would you?
[02:53] <galaxygazer> none of them work
[02:53] <crimsun> it's only necessary if you want to purge your apt cache, which really is only necessary if you either don't like caching downloaded debs or just don't have enough HD space in /var
[02:53] <drblood> im a linux uber noob :O
[02:54] <supernova_> im low on diskspace so..
[02:54] <supernova_> but since im new i dont understand.... apg-get is a feat that downloads the software?
[02:54] <cntb> what can be done to resize?
[02:54] <crimsun> galaxygazer: when you say "none of them work", do you mean you get the modprobe error, or do you mean sound is inaudible?  Please be precise.
[02:55] <kane> supernova_: apt-get downloads and installs programs for you.
[02:55] <galaxygazer> modprobe error sorry crimsun
[02:55] <cntb> old gparted is useless for bigger disks
[02:55] <kane> so you you wanted say, the program named firefox.
[02:55] <crimsun> galaxygazer: ok, so omitting probe_mask completely still gives you an modprobe error?
[02:55] <kane> apt-get install firefox would download and install it.
[02:55] <supernova_> kane: so why do i have to type apt-get clean every time?
[02:55] <galaxygazer> havent tried ill do that
[02:55] <kane> you dont.
[02:55] <supernova_> why not just clean?
[02:55] <intelikey> supernova_ man apt-get
[02:56] <supernova_> when i type clean it says i dont have it
[02:56] <kane> supernova_: because the command isnt clean
[02:56] <galaxygazer> without the probe_mask no error
[02:56] <kane> its apt-get clean
[02:56] <galaxygazer> crimsun
[02:56] <kane> apt-get is the application the word "clean" is an option of it.
[02:56] <bassgoon> is there anyway I can use a .bin?
[02:56] <supernova_> kane: but i though adding apt-get before downloaded and installd the feat?
[02:57] <intelikey> bassgoon sh file.bin
[02:57] <supernova_> oh so i dont have to be connecred to the internet to use apt-get clean?
[02:57] <bassgoon> intelikey, will that just run it?
[02:57] <bassgoon> I'm a bit of a noob sorry
[02:57] <kane> if by "feat" you mean application yes it does, if you use the "install" option for it.  apt-get install <whatever>
[02:57] <intelikey> bassgoon should
[02:57] <kane> supernova_: thats correct.
[02:57] <bassgoon> k
[02:57] <crimsun> galaxygazer: very interesting.
[02:57] <crimsun> galaxygazer: can you stick around for ~70 minutes?
[02:58] <galaxygazer> its this cheapo packard bloody bell, thats what I get for buying a cheap lappy
[02:58] <galaxygazer> sure
[02:58] <crimsun> I think I can fix it, but I'll need to compile some modules.
[02:58] <intelikey> kane 'feat' function/process
[02:58] <supernova_> kane: sorry but i just typed "sudo apt-get clean" does this mean that i havent installed the feauture?
[02:58] <galaxygazer> k,thanks mate your a star
[02:59] <intelikey> galaxygazer and your a planet   :)
[03:00] <kane> supernova_: all apt-get clean does is empty out the local cache of stored application packages, those packages it gets from the internet it stores.  apt-get clean removes those stored packeges
[03:00] <dregorth> supernova_: the "clean" feature is just an option you can use with apt-get. "sudo apt-get clean" doesn't install anything
[03:00] <supernova_> sorry im im slow but i installed linux today...
[03:00] <PeterJB> hi
[03:00] <dregorth> hi PeterJB
[03:01] <supernova_> dregorth: kanei understand that but then it means that i have to be connected vereytime i use apt-get clean since it has never been installed?
[03:01] <dregorth> mmm not sure but wouldn't think you'd need to be connected. is that correct, kane?
[03:01] <kane> supernova_: no, apt-get clean only removes files that are already locan on your computer.
[03:01] <dregorth> rgr
[03:01] <kane> er local not locan.
[03:02] <galaxygazer> white, sorry I cant PM I aint registerd yet :(
[03:02] <supernova_> i understand that but what i mean is that if the clean feature istnt installed on my computer it has to be downloaded every time?
[03:02] <supernova_> 12th hour in front of the computer now..
[03:03] <kane> supernova_: the clean feature is part of apt-get
[03:03] <dregorth> it's included in apt-get
[03:03] <dregorth> :)
[03:03] <kane> it cant be "not there" if apt-get is present.
[03:03] <supernova_> okey so its allready on my computer (from the moment i installed kubuntu?
[03:03] <kane> yes.
[03:03] <supernova_> now i understand..
[03:03] <dregorth> glad to hear it
[03:03] <supernova_> =)
[03:04] <intelikey> man apt-get
[03:04] <supernova_> hard to move from win to linux :p
[03:04] <intelikey> oh and    man man
[03:04] <kane> supernova_: you think thats hard? try moving from linux to win.
[03:04] <intelikey> man intro
[03:04] <supernova_> btw how do you get a console that displays everything that goes on (good when you want to learn)
[03:04] <supernova_> haha
[03:04] <intelikey> top
[03:05] <dregorth> supernova_: ya i know what ya mean :P
[03:05] <supernova_> im used to the manual cleaning in win..
[03:05] <supernova_> dregorth: how do you do?
[03:05] <dregorth> ya fun stuff [/sarcasm] 
[03:05] <dregorth> supernova_: not bad. u?
[03:05] <kane> supernova_: in my opinion, the application installation/uninstallition in linux is years ahead of windows.
[03:05] <supernova_> heheh
[03:06] <dregorth> kane: definitely a lot better controlled IMO
[03:06] <kane> supernova_: i can of course name some place where windows does much better
[03:06] <supernova_> dregorth: i mean how do you do to get that console?
[03:06] <kane> but i always felt like that was a big strong poing in linux.
[03:06] <dregorth> supernova_: oh you said "how do you do" lol without clarifying
[03:06] <supernova_> if linux had support for direcx win would be obsolete
[03:06] <supernova_> =)
[03:06] <dregorth> supernova_: ummm not sure i understand you. you want a real-time action logger type utility or something?
[03:06] <intelikey> you mean it isn't already ?
[03:06] <kane> we have opengl.
[03:06] <supernova_> reviewing hardware on linux is hard :p
[03:07] <PeterJB> maybe you should ask ms to port it
[03:07] <intelikey> supernova_ why so ?     lshw | less
[03:07] <dregorth> brb...
[03:07] <supernova_> PeterJB: or release it as open source =)
[03:07] <supernova_> intelikey: ?
[03:07] <PeterJB> it could happen - thinking post revelation
[03:08] <supernova_> back to the console.. how do i get it to display all activity?
[03:08] <intelikey> top
[03:08] <intelikey> pstree
[03:08] <intelikey> ps aux
[03:08] <supernova_> hum.... doesnt say me to much
[03:09] <supernova_> i have opened the console from the k-menu.... then?
[03:09] <kane> supernova_: what do you mean by "all activity"?
[03:10] <intelikey> galaxygazer gooday mate
[03:10] <mas195_> %c9
[03:10] <supernova_> kane: i dont know.... ive just heard that you can have a console that shows all the activity. though it wold be a good thing when learing linux
[03:10] <mas195_> can someone help me solve a wireless problem?
[03:10] <kane> well, do you mean all running applications?
[03:10] <PeterJB> mas195_: desribe problem
[03:10] <supernova_> yes..
[03:11] <kane> like intelikey said "ps aux"
[03:11] <kane> in the command line will do it.
[03:11] <kane> or "top"
[03:11] <supernova_> do i type that in the console?
[03:11] <kane> yes.
[03:11] <kane> or
[03:11] <kane> press ctrl+esc
[03:11] <mas195_> i have an 802.11g access point / router, dsl, dhcp, and my windows machines can connect.  the adapter is recognized but cannot connect to anything. i have tried to manually configure the ip and other settings without success...
[03:12] <kane> and you will get a windows(ish) style process monitor
[03:12] <supernova_> kane: i see
[03:12] <intelikey> hardly a console but same idea kane
[03:12] <hendaus> pelo what is remote_filename and local_filename
[03:12] <kane> intelikey: indeed, but i odnt want supernova_ to get the impression everything must be done on the CLI
[03:13] <supernova_> but can i get a console to tell med things the "consoel way" so to say? i mean when i use a gui based thing it translates it into console..?
[03:13] <hendaus> HELPERS!!  what is remote_filename and local_filename?
[03:13] <kane> ps aux is about as console was as you can get
[03:13] <supernova_> do you understand (my explination suxx)
[03:13] <intelikey> kane yeah.  just that his Q was "console that..."    only reason i mentioned it.
[03:13] <kane> agreed
[03:14] <kane> i think learning the console is great, the power of the cli is another big advantage over windows.
[03:14] <supernova_> secondly can o lock file-icons so i cant move them around by accident?
[03:14] <supernova_> like you can with the icons on the desktop?
[03:14] <kane> supernova_: right click on the diesktop
[03:14] <kane> go to icons
[03:14] <supernova_> that works but with other files in konqueror
[03:15] <supernova_> like my harddrive...
[03:15] <intelikey> konqueror is a file manager.    it's supposed to be able to move things.
[03:15] <supernova_> where i keep pictures and so on
[03:15] <dregorth> nice. i never had a need for that feature so i just learned something new :D
[03:16] <supernova_> intelikey: i mealn like windows "autoarrange"
[03:16] <supernova_> mean
[03:16] <mas195_> PeterJB: any suggestions
[03:16] <intelikey> konqueror's menu view sort by       or some such.
[03:16] <supernova_> third then... when i type kcontrol in the console i get an error about some device (169) that cant be opened why?
[03:17] <PeterJB> whats the name/make of your card
[03:17] <intelikey> supernova_ possably wacom device ?
[03:17] <mas195_> well, i would tell you except all of my apps have stopped responding... cannot launch konsole or systems.....
[03:18] <mas195_> PeterJB: i do know that it is a broadcom adapter
[03:18] <supernova_> i have no idea... saw that peobple had the same problem on the forum when opening other apps by console
[03:18] <PeterJB> in that case follow instructions here
[03:18] <supernova_> kcontrol launches but i want to know why i get an error
[03:18] <intelikey> !wacom
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <intelikey> stupid bot.
[03:19] <KevinAlaska> O.O
[03:19] <dregorth> weird. i don't get that error (thing is, i usually DO!)
[03:19] <KevinAlaska> Jucato... that yakuake is pretty cool.  thank you for the tip. :)
[03:19] <mas195_> PeterJB: was there a link that I am supposed to follow cause it didn't show up
[03:19] <supernova_> can i get the console to show which apps who connects to the internet and where?
[03:20] <PeterJB> sorry i haven't typed the link yet
[03:20] <PeterJB> i'mjust finding it
[03:20] <mas195_> my bad
[03:20] <mas195_> thanks
[03:20] <jordo23_> If I am running Kubuntu and want to keep it that way, but want to install Gnome as the secondary WM,  which package do I ask for.  (The reason I ask is that I don't want to install Gnome's login manager or other metapackages that will switch me over to "Ubuntu" technically....)
[03:20] <david_> howyd partners
[03:20] <intelikey> supernova_ packet sniffing
[03:20] <kane> supernova_: which apps are currently using the internet?
[03:20] <PeterJB> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[03:20] <david_> is there a way to kill all things that would be using apt?
[03:20] <supernova_> yes
[03:21] <david_> i just booted up and its saying i cant use install programs because somethigns using it
[03:21] <PeterJB> use adept instead of synaptic and kate instead of gedit
[03:21] <supernova_> like basic firewalls in win dos
[03:21] <supernova_> does
[03:21] <drblood> dragn u afk?
[03:21] <david_> is there a way to automatically close all packaging systems?
[03:21] <KevinAlaska> david_ I was given this to fix that problem.. worked for me ---> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:22] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | david_
[03:22] <ubotu> david_: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:22] <dregorth> good bot
[03:22] <PeterJB> go to ksysguard and search for apt or adept if the advice from ubotu or Kevin doesn't help
[03:22] <UFFFFFF> does someone know where to download the toshiba e-studio45's driver
[03:22] <KevinAlaska> yeah.. that one..  :-d
[03:22] <hendaus> helpers, where can i see my cellphone mounted? where can i see c: d: g: f:
[03:23] <intelikey> echo "c: d: g: f:"
[03:23] <intelikey> and you'll see     c: d: g: f:
[03:23] <supernova_> kane: oh i had a huge problem earlier today.. i couldnt install the ati drivers from their homepage (a .run file)... i got a syntax error bad substitutan or something
[03:23] <intelikey> :)
[03:23] <PeterJB> next to the k-menu there is system menu
[03:23] <PeterJB> go to media
[03:24] <supernova_> any ideas on how to solve that?
[03:24] <PeterJB> will list all drives
[03:24] <kane> ah well i dont use ati.
[03:24] <kane> sorry.
[03:24] <supernova_> :/
[03:24] <intelikey> !ntfs | hendaus
[03:24] <ubotu> hendaus: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:24] <kane> if no one knows here try #ati or #ubuntu
[03:24] <PeterJB> linux does not use drives but instead mounts filesystems to the folder /mount or /media
[03:24] <david_> KevinAlaska:  thanks that worked
[03:25] <PeterJB> if you go to the address bar in konqeuror and type media:/ will show all available devices
[03:25] <KevinAlaska> woot! /a_poor_dance
[03:25] <KevinAlaska> david_ glad it helped. :)
[03:25] <intelikey> !ati | supernova_ did you look at this ?
[03:25] <ubotu> supernova_ did you look at this ?: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:25] <supernova_> yes
[03:25] <KevinAlaska> david_ write those down.. I have been just pasting them in a text file to keep a log. :)
[03:26] <david_> KevinAlaska: k good idea
[03:26] <intelikey> KevinAlaska your irc client can log everything....
[03:26] <KevinAlaska> doh... intelikey had to one up on me.. :S
[03:26] <intelikey> 1^   :)
[03:26] <KevinAlaska> intelikey, just the selected items?
[03:27] <KevinAlaska> now thats 2^ now
[03:27] <supernova_> intelikey: the problem it that my card cant use the drivers in the adept... my card is to old..
[03:27] <supernova_> so i have to do it manually
[03:27] <greg_g> How does one enable a swap partition which is already made?
[03:27] <intelikey> just what has your name in it    or all     (most clients can anyway)
[03:27] <KevinAlaska> hay supernovea_ I used a program called Envy
[03:27] <KevinAlaska> worked great. let me get the link.. one sec
[03:28] <david_> is there a command to reset the sound system?
[03:28] <intelikey> supernova_ ah yes.  i stand under you.   my nvidia card is not supported either.
[03:28] <david_> i changed my device and dont want to reboot
[03:28] <mas195> PeterJB: can you repost the link for the wireless solution... konversation locked up and i had to restart
[03:28] <PeterJB> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1071920&mode=linear
[03:28] <PeterJB> use adept instead of synaptic or kate instead of gedit
[03:29] <KevinAlaska> supernova_ go to http://www.albertomilone.com/... I found a walkthrough outside of this by google.  worked great.
[03:29] <intelikey> david_ yes there is.   there are scripts for things like that too
[03:30] <KevinAlaska> supernova_ you at least with the (nVidia drivers on my end) I had to make sure everything nvidia was uninstalled first.
[03:30] <intelikey> crimsun gave the url eariler but power failure blanked my records of it.
[03:30] <Minataku> !seen dr_willis
[03:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen dr_willis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:30] <intelikey> david_  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37012
[03:33] <intelikey> david_ as you can see that's a pretty generic script (and purposely so) but you can modify and use any part as needed.    like modifying the modules var to more suit your need.
[03:34] <david_> intelikey: thanks!
[03:34] <intelikey> not a bit of it.
[03:39] <supernova_> kane: under k-menu -> system do you see synaptic at the bottom?
[03:40] <Dekkard> is there a qt/kde equivilent to efax-gtk?
[03:40] <supernova_> i believe i didnt have that one befote..
[03:40] <intelikey> synaptic is not default in kubuntu
[03:40] <supernova_> intelikey: i followed the ati guide again and now i se synaptic..
[03:40] <intelikey> Dekkard kfax ?
[03:40] <PeterJB> equivalent of synaptic is adept manager which is located in system
[03:40] <Dekkard> intelikey: is that a guess bro?
[03:41] <intelikey> supernova_ yes nothing wrong with adding it.   just that it's not installed by defauld in kubuntu
[03:41] <intelikey> Dekkard no.   it's an aproximation.
[03:42] <supernova_> intelikey: is every software in adept manager free of charge?
[03:42] <intelikey> supernova_ yes
[03:42] <intelikey> as far as i know.
[03:42] <intelikey> if not someone correct me.
[03:42] <K1765> i screwed up how my desktop looks lol, how can i set it back to default
[03:43] <Dekkard> i find kfaxview. or kfax.. but they are just viewers
[03:43] <Dekkard> i have efax-gtk installed and it works.. im just looking for a kde alternative
[03:47] <intelikey> Dekkard several faxing tools   nothing kde specific besides kfax       apt-cache search fax
[03:48] <Dekkard> i think there is kdeprintfax.. that uses cups to print to fax
[03:48] <Dekkard> im researchign it
[03:49] <intelikey> lprfax
[03:50] <Dekkard> hehe
[03:50] <Dekkard>  its native!
[03:50] <Dekkard> if you do a doc in kword.. and goto pring.. you cna select fax as the printer
[03:51] <Dekkard> dang
[03:51] <Dekkard>  thats goto print.. you can chose fax as the printer
[03:51] <Dekkard> which is kinda cool..
[03:51] <Dekkard> efax-gtk requires the file to be postscript.. which i guess means pdf
[03:52] <nosrednaekim> postscript is not PDF
[03:52] <Dekkard>  ok
[03:52] <Dekkard> ' all i knw is. it wouldnt accept doc files
[03:52] <Dekkard> but it woudl accept pdf
[03:53] <Dekkard> and they worked
[03:53] <intelikey> no pdf != ps
[03:53] <nosrednaekim> PS, if I am correct here, is a file format used by printers to actually print
[03:53] <crimsun> oh bah, the guy quit
[03:54] <intelikey> pdf = portable document format   (adobe propritary)
[03:54] <crimsun> and to think I've been trying to get him a fixed kernel module.
[03:54] <Dekkard> rigfht
[03:54] <intelikey> crimsun he said he was sending you his email and a /msg
[03:54] <Dekkard> but isnt there more than one postscript file format?
[03:54] <nosrednaekim> Dekkard: i don't think, so.
[03:54] <intelikey> crimsun maybe even a   memoserv message.
[03:55] <crimsun> intelikey: yes, I received that, but it doesn't really help online debugging :-)
[03:55] <crimsun> oh well, ping-pong it shall be.
[03:55] <intelikey> no it doesn't.   but i also understand 2am sleepy time.
[03:55] <Dekkard> all i know is.. iwoudl try to send with efax-gtk.. and it wouldnt accept the doc format.. but it did accept pdfs,, and they printed correctly
[03:55] <crimsun> oh definitely.  Particularly since I've not slept in a day. :-)
[03:55] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: you in england?
[03:56] <intelikey> nosrednaekim i speek english some.
[03:56] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: I mean, you said it was 2.
[03:56] <intelikey> where ?
[03:57] <nosrednaekim> intelikey: no it doesn't.   but i also understand 2am sleepy time.
[03:57] <KevinAlaska> intelikey speaks very good english... good enough that I would have never known
[03:57] <dregorth> KevinAlaska: lol same here
[03:58] <KevinAlaska> heh.. I know.. suspicious isn't it...  *-)
[03:58] <intelikey> it's 2am each hour.   question is what time zone?    and saying i understand something doesn't mean it applies to me.    if you look at the context, you'll see we were talking about someone that "left because it was 2am and time for sleep"
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> ah!... pardon..
[03:59] <dregorth> mmm very ;P
[03:59] <nosrednaekim> lol.. I think 10 is late enough for myself.. talk to ya'll later..;)
[03:59] <dregorth> cya nosrednaekim
[03:59] <intelikey> gooday nosrednaekim
[04:00] <intelikey> errr late.
[04:02] <flake> is there a way to use keyboard layout to assign a key to pop up my Panel 2   ?
[04:02] <nimble> panel 2?
[04:03] <flake> yes, I have two panels, panel 2 autohides
[04:03] <intelikey> if you can write a script that does it you can make a hot key run it
[04:03] <KevinAlaska> hay... I am looking for good ideas on how to use the kubuntu server I am making for primary backups off a couple of other computers I have here at home and a network printer all connected to a linksys router then to a cable modem.  I have 1 computer that is dual boot winxp/kubuntu and a winXP desktop and lastly a vista laptop... any ideas on what I should consider taking advantage of in the wonderful world of linux here at home?
[04:04] <flake> cousre if the mouse isn't over it, it will autohide back unless I change the delay I suppose
[04:06] <intelikey> KevinAlaska rsync ?     tar ?     dd ?      what kind of "backup" you talking about?
[04:07] <KevinAlaska> well I was told to use rsync
[04:07] <KevinAlaska> but that is all cli right? NOT that thats bad... heh
[04:07] <intelikey> yes
[04:07] <KevinAlaska> does rsync backup only things that have changed on the client?
[04:09] <intelikey> ummm  rdiff-backup   would.
[04:09] <intelikey> i think rsync can.
[04:09] <greg_g> So, I know I am not the only person to have kde and gnome installed.  Does anyone know of a way to have KDE apps separated out of the main menu in gnome, and gnome apps separated out in the main menu in kde???
[04:09] <intelikey> might look at    backuppc - high-performance, enterprise-grade system for backing up PCs
[04:09] <KevinAlaska> with the sync part in rsync ... I would think that it could have the abilities to copy only parts that are changed
[04:10] <intelikey> greg_g kmenu editor will let you do that to the kmenu
[04:11] <craven> I installed Kubuntu ontop of my ubuntu... I really like KDE... wish I tried it instead of GNOME to begin with.. but I can't get the system to change my window themes..any ideas
[04:12] <greg_g> intelikey: thanks
[04:12] <KevinAlaska> what else is NIFTY to do with a linux server... I want to use this as a learning project as well as something fun to motivate me on different things I can do with it.
[04:15] <dregorth> mmm thank god for wireless...
[04:16] <intelikey> KevinAlaska setup your own cherokee or apache server and make it serve only to the 192.* range.   setup a mail server with sendmail and fetchmail....     ah  use iptables to control access to a subnet.   ahhhh....   setup a packet sniffer and spy on the other boxes....   ahhh.
[04:16] <greg_g> intelikey: asked in #ubuntu also and go this package, which is actually what I was thinking of, I just couldn't remember where I saw it before:  http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31031
[04:17] <KevinAlaska> woot.. nifty... thats the kind of stuff I am talking about. :)
[04:17] <intelikey> KevinAlaska but don't ask me to help on any of that; cause i'm network illiterate you know.
[04:18] <flake> how would I pop up a hidden Panel  ?
[04:18] <intelikey> dcop ?
[04:20] <KevinAlaska> Pft!... intelikey, me ask you for advice... when have I EVER done that? ;)
[04:20] <intelikey> oh....
[04:21] <l_r> hello
[04:21] <l_r> where is the interface for changing the MIME associations in kde?
[04:22] <l_r> i can't find it in the kcontrol
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> l_r: its under the menu in konqueror
[04:23] <l_r> oh..thanks
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> np
[04:24] <trakinas> hitmanWilly: hello again
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> howdy
[04:24] <intelikey> oh,  hey hitmanWilly;   (:   it's all yours.  i'm out for an hour or seventeen.
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> :)
[04:25] <trakinas> which are the modules for scsi emulation?
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> trakinas: not sure...
[04:25] <jamster545> does anyone know how to get Kubuntu to show up in Solaris's GRUB menu?
[04:25] <trakinas> hmmm... i find only a few ones in the portage... ops... on apt-get.
[04:25] <danny500> yo
[04:26] <danny500> does anyone know of a good program I can use to make an avi or mpeg file ready to burn onto dvd
[04:27] <trakinas> danny500: a series of ones..
[04:28] <trakinas> tovidgui is a good start.
[04:28] <trakinas> jamster545: sorry, but i never used solaris.
[04:28] <danny500> ok thanks
[04:28] <jamster545> well... there is like 100 ppl in here... someone should know how
[04:29] <danny500> how do I get tovidgui?
[04:29] <flake> jamster545 you try #solaris   ?
[04:29] <jamster545> ok?
[04:29] <danny500> no that would be way to easy
[04:29] <danny500> lol
[04:33] <danny500> nm I found out how
[04:36] <trakinas> danny500: tovidGUI
[04:36] <trakinas> =P
[04:36] <trakinas> tovid is the software.
[04:36] <trakinas> anyhow...
[04:37] <jamster545> well... i went to #solaris and everyone was mean... only one person was answering and he was calling me names and saying mean things and wouldnt help and said nobody there gave a $#!^ about Linux
[04:37] <trakinas> danny500: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
[04:37] <jamster545> #ubunyu
[04:37] <jamster545> #ubuntu
[04:38] <flake> there is  #opensolaris
[04:38] <flake> they might be more friendly
[04:39] <qoop> hard times with beryl
[04:39] <qoop> :(
[04:41] <jamster545> probably not... i am asking in #ubuntu and am asking jenda, a moderator
[04:41] <flake> ok
[04:42] <danny500> how do I install txt2tags?
[04:43] <qoop> my head is hurting meeee my brains are boilnig... wtf there are infinit ways to instal somthing on bunthu linux whatever...
[04:43] <qoop> :(
[04:44] <qoop> dam it
[04:44] <danny500> ya no shit
[04:44] <danny500> opps sorry
[04:44] <qoop> whare is the clasic instal.exe :D
[04:45] <danny500> never mind I just downloaded a debian version and installed that lol
[04:45] <danny500> ya I know eh
[04:45] <qoop> o go to sleep i have tierd whit this... try tomorow with beryl again...
[04:45] <danny500> couldn't stick to a nice installer program for everything had to make it nice and complex :)
[04:46] <qoop> yap
[04:46] <danny500> lol
[04:46] <danny500> whats wrong with beryl?
[04:46] <danny500> are you using an ATI card?
[04:46] <qoop> what is more complex is the driver part
[04:46] <qoop> yap
[04:46] <danny500> thats why
[04:46] <qoop> yap i tink so
[04:46] <danny500> Linux has extremely bad drivers for ATI
[04:47] <trakinas> danny500: that is how to use it
[04:47] <danny500> I have a 512MB ATI card and Breyl won't work either
[04:47] <trakinas> danny500: before you ask... =P
[04:47] <qoop> so there are no ways to do that works?
[04:47] <danny500> as far as I know not really
[04:47] <qoop> gizasss
[04:48] <danny500> ya sorry bud
[04:48] <qoop> stuppid ati team...
[04:48] <danny500> no kidding
[04:48] <qoop> :(:(:(
[04:48] <qoop> man i going crazy
[04:48] <Jhereg> hey all
[04:48] <danny500> buy an nvidia card and it'll work lol
[04:48] <qoop> to replace my ati card i must replace my mother board and the entire PC
[04:48] <qoop> :(
[04:48] <danny500> how so?
[04:49] <qoop> a have a 9600 pro
[04:49] <qoop> agp
[04:49] <danny500> and?
[04:49] <flake> agp's are old tech, should be dropping in price
[04:49] <danny500> buy an agp nvidia
[04:49] <Jhereg> when I upgraded, my root directory got changed from being on /dev/hda to /dev/sde. everything still works, but why did it change?
[04:49] <qoop> yap but sh
[04:49] <qoop> not new
[04:49] <crdlb> qoop, use the open source driver builtin to *ubuntu
[04:50] <crdlb> don't use ati's proprietary driver
[04:50] <qoop> now all are made on pcie
[04:50] <crdlb> if you do, beryl will work out of the box
[04:50] <Jhereg> anyone know?
[04:50] <qoop> k il try next time when il instal clean
[04:51] <qoop> to rollback driver is more complcated then install beryl
[04:51] <qoop> so...
[04:51] <qoop> :D
[04:51] <crdlb> qoop, so basically don't install anything except beryl
[04:51] <crdlb> (and beryl-manager and emerald-themes)
[04:52] <qoop> yap ok
[04:52] <qoop> whell
[04:53] <qoop> when ii instaled frist time ubuntu i had desktop effects enabled it works fine for 2 min after that freez and no more monitor signal
[04:53] <qoop> the same way with the screensavers
[04:53] <qoop> thats why a had change my driver
[04:53] <Jhereg> I have a question, I just recently upgraded to fiesty, and when I did, Linux stopped seeing my Hard drive as /dev/hda and started seeing it as /dev/sde. From my understanding of linux, this isn't possible without a hardware change, so why did it happen?
[04:53] <qoop> but stiil freez on screensavers
[04:54] <l_r> damn, kwallet is really annoying. every time kde starts an application like kmail or kopete,  kwallet starts and asks for a password. is there a way to use kwallet without asking for passwords each time?
[04:54] <douty> hi there
[04:54] <douty> where can I get the drivers for nvidia graphic card?
[04:55] <douty> someone can tell me where I can get drivers for my nvidia graphic card?
[04:55] <l_r> don't you have this problem when using kmail? it seems impossible it only happens to me
[04:55] <qoop> nvidia.com?
[04:55] <danny500> douty: go to the nvidia website
[04:55] <jtt> Jhereg, alan cox re-wrote the kernel disk drivers and all future devices will be  /dev/sXX etc.
[04:56] <qoop> there are others with ati cards that freezzz on opengl app?
[04:56] <qoop> spacialy 9600
[04:56] <douty> yeah I know but ubuntu must have an easy way to install them, right?
[04:56] <crdlb> ubuntu does.
[04:56] <crdlb> kubuntu doesn't :(
[04:56] <jtt> !nvidia |douty
[04:56] <ubotu> douty: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:57] <douty> ubotu thanks
[04:57] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:58] <danny500> douty: the drivers are right on the nvida wesite or you can just use synaptic and install the drivers that come with linux
[04:58] <crdlb> douty, what nvidia card do you have?
[04:59] <dr_willis> best to use synaptic to install them
[04:59] <douty> nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] 
[05:00] <fbvortex> I'm trying to get unwanted stuff to not be started automatically on boot.  Along with others others I don't need/want brltty or avahi.  I've gone through the /etc/rc#.d/ and /etc/default directories, renaming the boot script links or moving them out of /etc/default, but these programs are still starting on boot!  How can I stop this?
[05:00] <crdlb> douty, then use the nvidia-glx package for your drivers
[05:00] <douty> what are they called in synaptic
[05:00] <crdlb> nvidia-glx
[05:00] <crdlb> that's the newest you can use
[05:00] <dr_willis> !nvidia
[05:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:00] <qoop> ok il take this silence as an answre... and there are 3 stupid moves in this 1. ATI for existing at all 2. Me for buy that shi 3. Burn my pc with benzen premium plus 98 :D
[05:01] <crdlb> qoop, you were getting freezes using the default driver?
[05:01] <qoop> yap
[05:01] <crdlb> ugh
[05:01] <qoop> yap 2
[05:02] <crdlb> they're reverse-engineered so they're not perfect :(
[05:02] <qoop> :D
[05:02] <qoop> on windwos xp i had the same problem with opengl but when i disamble agp 8x to 0 the problem was gone
[05:03] <crdlb> sounds like bad hardware
[05:03] <qoop> now when i migratet (so called) to ubuntu the same problem with opengl persits
[05:03] <qoop> i dont know anymore...
[05:04] <qoop> i had tested this card and no problem on other pc
[05:04] <danny500> qoop: your card can/t handle ogl? I think your card is dieing
[05:04] <danny500> or your mobo is going
[05:04] <qoop> i tink now is something with hardware compatibility
[05:04] <qoop> what is mobo?
[05:04] <crdlb> motherboard
[05:04] <qoop> aha
[05:04] <qoop> k
[05:04] <danny500> you noob lol
[05:05] <crdlb> !noob
[05:05] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:05] <qoop> lol
[05:05] <danny500> haha
[05:05] <qoop> yap i had my xp formated :D
[05:05] <danny500> whats jfgi?
[05:05] <crdlb> hey wait I'm on calvino
[05:05] <crdlb> that's odd
[05:06] <dr_willis> Besides its N00b!
[05:06] <dr_willis> :)
[05:06] <danny500> whats jfgi mean? never seen that befor
[05:06] <qoop> k i am n o o b so what? for dont knowit mobo is?
[05:06] <qoop> i know mobo as mb
[05:06] <dr_willis> danny500,  egads! you dont even know what  that means! :0
[05:06] <crdlb> uh oh 945
[05:06] <danny500> no
[05:06] <drarem> ttfu - that's totally so f*ing unfair
[05:07] <dr_willis> :)
[05:07] <drarem> ttfnu
[05:07] <danny500> lol
[05:07] <qoop> k
[05:07] <drarem> i dont know
[05:07] <qoop> bye
[05:07] <danny500> Just F*ing Google it
[05:08] <danny500> lol why is that not aloud?
[05:08] <drarem> cause we are typing it danny
[05:08] <danny500> little striked now are we?
[05:08] <drarem> get it?  not aloud?
[05:13] <danny500> Sysinfo for 'netkiller': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.6, CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ at 1000 MHz (2002 bogomips), HD: 10/30GB, RAM: 914/1011MB, 117 proc's, 58.49min up
[05:13] <danny500> hahaha it messed up lol
[05:14] <danny500> I'm running at 2000MHz lol
[05:14] <danny500> WTF I AM RUNNING AT 1GHz!!!!
[05:15] <nixternal> danny500: cpu scaling
[05:15] <danny500> why?
[05:15] <danny500> thats stupid
[05:15] <nixternal> you think so
[05:15] <danny500> no I know so
[05:15] <crdlb> power-saving
[05:15] <crdlb> it's a good thing
[05:15] <nixternal> OK...thanks crdlb
[05:15] <danny500> I don't want to save power, how do I turn that off?
[05:16] <danny500> how do I turn it off?
[05:16] <dr_willis> depends.
[05:16] <dr_willis> :)
[05:16] <danny500> don't depends me, I want it off lol
[05:17] <nixternal> ya, you could possibly shut it off in your bios
[05:17] <dr_willis> actually it should throttle up as needed.
[05:17] <dr_willis> and you should never notice the differance
[05:17] <danny500> It does that but I want it to run at full at all times
[05:17] <dr_willis> No you dont. :) amd decided you dont. I do belive they are using that feature also to keep the cpu cool.
[05:18] <dr_willis> i think its going to be a bigger feature in the next gen of cpus also.
[05:18] <dr_willis> You want it to idle faster! :)
[05:18] <danny500> ok I guess so
[05:19] <dr_willis> Seen some specs on the next gen of cpu. they can selectively turn off parts of the cpu. and even turn off ram/slow it down when it wants to.
[05:20] <danny500> I have a ATI X550 on this machine rght now, any good?
[05:20] <dr_willis> But all thats mainly for laptops.. but it will also let you save power/heat on the desktop
[05:20] <dr_willis> ati is a bit of a gamble under linux. my X200m works 'so so' under linux. not ttied any of the newer ati stuff yet.
[05:21] <danny500> do you have beryl working?
[05:22] <dr_willis> you dont want to know what i think of Beryl :)
[05:22] <dr_willis> lets just say.. i dont use it.
[05:22] <dr_willis> :P
[05:22] <danny500> no I want to know if you got it working
[05:22] <dr_willis> Ive tested it out on various live cd's and my nvidia systems.
[05:22] <crdlb> on a x200m you'd have to use Xgl
[05:22] <dr_willis> I havent bothered  with it on my x2oom laptop
[05:22] <danny500> ok Xgl it is
[05:22] <dr_willis> the 200m  is having issues with fglrx even - so its back to the 'ati' driver for me.,
[05:22] <ablyss> i have beryl, compiz running just fine
[05:23] <trakinas> why rtfm arent alowed?? isnt rtfm = read the FRIENDLY manual?  or did someone fooled me? :o
[05:23] <ablyss> even got kiba-dock and cairo-dock running
[05:23] <dr_willis> I got windowmaker and its dock (warf) running. :)
[05:23] <ablyss> hehe
[05:24] <crdlb> danny500, err no
[05:24] <ablyss> vmware seems to disagree w/ ubuntu's latest kernel
[05:24] <crdlb> no don't need Xgl if you don't use fglrx
[05:24] <f4ramir> Hi. I am able to connect to my wireless network fine with XP. But not able to do so from Kubuntu with what appears to be the same settings.
[05:24] <ablyss> that or either my hardrive is dieing
[05:24] <crdlb> use the open source driver that comes with ubuntu
[05:24] <f4ramir> I can connect fine from both machines if WPA is disabled.
[05:25] <f4ramir> But once enabled I can only connect from the XP box.
[05:25] <f4ramir> Any idea why?
[05:25] <dr_willis> ablyss,  having issues running ubuntu under vmware? or visa-versa?
[05:26] <f4ramir> Is there a log that I can access for trouble shooting?
[05:26] <ablyss> dr_willis: well, vmware released a patch for the ubuntu's 7.04 kernel... and i don't think they perfected it yet
[05:28] <ablyss> dr_willis: it sucks too... mainly I have to run vmware to do office work
[05:29] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i got vmware server running on on my ubuntu box last i looked.
[05:30] <dr_willis> I did have to tweak somthing.. i forget what.
[05:30] <ablyss> vmplayer ?
[05:30] <ablyss> vmware-player.. maybe its called
[05:30] <ablyss> i don't maybe problem is in my upgrade
[05:31] <ablyss> have to go.. have a good chat,
[05:32] <dr_willis> I use vmware server
[05:34] <trakinas> i just want to my drive dvd be able to read.. =(
[05:35] <dr_willis> huh?
[05:37] <nzk> Why is my computer so slow
[05:37] <nzk> I barely have anything running and its a 2.5 load avg.
[05:37] <dregorth> f4ramir: still having those wireless probs?
[05:38] <trakinas> nzk: mine eats 345MB of memory only with kde...
[05:38] <nzk> trakinas, its not memory, its cpu
[05:38] <trakinas> nzk: i got it.
[05:41] <dregorth> f4ramir
[05:42] <f4ramir> dregorth: yep. I just tried resetting everything. Still can't get through with WPA enabled.
[05:43] <f4ramir> dregorth: Should I perhaps be using WEP instead? Or WPA2?
[05:43] <f4ramir> dregorth: XP doesn't seem to like WPA2 :S
[05:43] <dregorth> ya no kiddin heh
[05:43] <dregorth> don't worry about wpa2
[05:43] <dregorth> umm.. hmm...
[05:44] <dregorth> just thinkin to myself for a bit hehe
[05:44] <f4ramir> sURE - THANKS.
[05:44] <f4ramir> -caps
[05:44] <dregorth> trying to get your situation all lined out in my head
[05:44] <dregorth> np
[05:44] <dregorth> can't promise i'll be able to help but i'd like to for sure
[05:44] <dregorth> i had to deal with that prob too
[05:45] <dregorth> :P
[05:45] <dregorth> what kind of wireless card do you have?
[05:45] <f4ramir> In the security tab in the wlan assistant, I've selected "shared key", entered my key and check "ascii".
[05:45] <f4ramir> It's a Linksys
[05:45] <f4ramir> The router is the same.
[05:46] <dregorth> k
[05:46] <dregorth> while we're talking i'm gonna be doing a bit of searching on google as long as you will do the same
[05:46] <dregorth> :)
[05:46] <f4ramir> Sure :) I'm checking synaptic to see if there are any packages I should install or some such.
[05:46] <dregorth> k
[05:46] <dregorth> good good
[05:48] <f4ramir> hmm kwlan sounds interesting. But it requires me to remove knetworkmanager :S
[05:48] <trakinas> how do I disable scsi emulation?
[05:48] <dregorth> mm what model is your card?
[05:49] <f4ramir> wmp54g
[05:49] <trakinas> tried recompiling the kernel, but it crashes... using the ubuntu way can I change this?
[05:49] <dregorth> and what do you have the router set to? wpa, wep?
[05:49] <f4ramir> WPA
[05:49] <dregorth> trakinas: wish i could help ya out. no idea :P
[05:49] <dregorth> f4ramir: alright
[05:50] <dregorth> what're you using? edgy, feisty, or earlier?
[05:50] <trakinas> np! i will try smth tomorrow night or saturday... if everything fails, gentoo is here to save me. now i have to go.
[05:50] <trakinas> cheers all
[05:50] <dregorth> alright take care :D
[05:50] <trakinas> thanks! :] 
[05:51] <klobster> anyone stopped using the artsD in favor of using ALSA directly?
[05:51] <Random_Transit> hey, question....why are all the fonts in my KDE apps much larger when i run those apps in GNOME?
[05:52] <Jucato> Random_Transit: did you check the Font settings in System Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts ?
[05:52] <f4ramir> dregorth: feisty
[05:52] <dregorth> f4ramir: k gimme a bit more time. just keep watching for my responses :P
[05:53] <f4ramir> ok :)
[05:53] <f4ramir> Any idea where the logs are stored?
[05:53] <dregorth> mmm not off the top of my head...
[05:53] <dr_willis>  /var/logs
[05:53] <dregorth> i'm guessing you use dhcp right?
[05:53] <Random_Transit> Jucato, no, i don't actually have KDE itself installed....just the base libs and a few apps like KTorrrent and Amarok
[05:53] <f4ramir> dregorth: nope
[05:54] <dregorth> oh static, eh?
[05:54] <f4ramir> dr_willis: thanks. Where exactly in /var/logs? ANy idea?
[05:54] <f4ramir> dregorth: yes
[05:54] <dregorth> clever bastard lol j/k
[05:54] <dregorth> i'm still lookin no worries
[05:54] <dregorth> :)
[05:54] <f4ramir> heh
[05:54] <Jucato> Random_Transit: I'm not really sure, but I think KDE uses different font settings. But that could also be affected by how fonts are displayed by KDE or GNOME in the first place.
[05:55] <dregorth> do you wanna stick with static?
[05:55] <dr_willis> f4ramir,  grep and find is our fried.. :) what are we even looking for?
[05:55] <dr_willis>  :)
[05:55] <dregorth> dr_willis: do you know what his prob is?
[05:55] <f4ramir> dr_willis: to find out why my wifi doesn't connect with WPA enabled.
[05:56] <f4ramir> dregorth: It seems to work fine with static when WPA is disabled. So I'm not sure if that's the problem. Want me to give it a shot any how?
[05:56] <dregorth> hmmm
[05:56] <dregorth> that's weird
[05:57] <dregorth> lol
[05:57] <f4ramir> hehe
[05:57] <dr_willis> :)
[05:58] <klobster> mobuto: what kernel are you on (uname -r)?
[05:58] <f4ramir> dregorth: I've not registered this nick. SO I can't reply to your PMs.
[05:59] <f4ramir> dregorth: But I highly appreciate your assistance :)
[05:59] <dregorth> ah np
[05:59] <dregorth> what driver do you have installed for it?
[05:59] <dregorth> i saw somewhere that the driver would be rt2500
[05:59] <dregorth> correct?
[06:00] <f4ramir> hmm how do I check?
[06:01] <f4ramir> lspci gives me: Ralink RT2561/RT61 802.11g PCI
[06:01] <f4ramir> is that what you need?
[06:02] <dregorth> sorry was looking at some stuff
[06:02] <dregorth> ya that's good
[06:02] <dregorth> thx
[06:02] <f4ramir> The ubuntu wiki states that Ralink is a good thing as well :)
[06:03] <dregorth> usually works outta the box afaik
[06:03] <dregorth> i have rt2500
[06:03] <dregorth> :)
[06:03] <dregorth> never used static ip tho
[06:03] <dregorth> so i prolly won't be the best of help
[06:03] <dregorth> but i'm willing to spend time helping you figure this out
[06:03] <jarn> Is there a way to configure my printer so that it prints the date and page numbers on the page?
[06:03] <jarn> Is there a way to configure my printer so that it prints the date and page numbers on the page? It's an HP Deskjet 5740.
[06:04] <f4ramir> dregorth: ok, I'm going to enable DHCP and see what happens. I'll probably get disconnected though. bbiab.
[06:05] <dregorth> alright
[06:06] <dr_willis> jarn,  i belive i saw that setting in the printer-settings dialogs. BUT not all programs may let it do that. (that may been for text only printing)
[06:07] <jarn> dr_willis: I don't have a program called printer-settings.
[06:07] <kwoodard> so ... is automounting external ext3 hard drives impossible?
[06:08] <netdaemon> anyone use 64 bit kubunty
[06:08] <kwoodard> I can't seem to get the permissions right.  And no icons ever automatically show up on my desktop.
[06:08] <netdaemon> kubuntu*
[06:08] <dr_willis> i never said there was :) thers a printer-settings section/control center tools..    I tend touse the CUPS web interface. not kde's tools.
[06:08] <dr_willis> jarn,  you trying to get this for one specific program?
[06:08] <jarn> dr_willis: No.
[06:09] <jarn> dr_willis: I thought you meant there was a program called printer-settings, my bad.
[06:09] <jarn> dr_willis: How do I access he CUPS interface? I've been using the one in kcontrol.
[06:09] <dr_willis> its gotten where that feature is very program specific. since for example you wouldent want page # at the bottom of a 8x11 glossy print. :)
[06:09] <Lynoure> Could someone see if kpilot hangs for them too? (even before a device is plugged in, so no device needed for this)
[06:10] <dr_willis> cups is..  https://localhost:631  (i think)
[06:10] <kwoodard> Will someone please help me configure kubuntu to automount drives and get the permissions right?
[06:10] <dr_willis> or was that swat
[06:10] <Lynoure> (on feisty, that is)
[06:10] <dr_willis> cups.org has the docs   :) i got my printer set.. and its been rnning for the last 3 months. not had to go to its controlls in ages
[06:10] <jarn> dr_willis: That was right.
[06:11] <dr_willis> jarn,  im just not sure how 'enabled' the cups interface is under Feisty (or whatever ubuntu you are using) its been soort of disabled in the last few releases
[06:11] <jarn> dr_willis: Ah.
[06:11] <jarn> dr_willis: Also, do you know why my printer keeps turning off when it's not in use? It only does this in Linux, not in Windows.
[06:12] <dr_willis> power saveing mode?
[06:13] <jarn> dr_willis: Yeah, that's what I had guessed. Don't see that in options either, though.
[06:13] <dr_willis> could be windows is being stupid and polling the printer keeping it awake.
[06:13] <dr_willis> while linux is smarter
[06:13] <dr_willis> My old laser goes to sleep after an hr or so.
[06:17] <dregorth> wb f4ramir
[06:18] <kwoodard> Does anyone have any ideas on mounting ext3 external hard drives?
[06:20] <netdaemon> eh
[06:20] <jarn> dr_willis: The problem is my printer is not in a handy position. While for some people that's good, for me it's bad. I'd prefer if it would only turn off when I turned my computer off instead of after a few minutes of not being used.
[06:20] <netdaemon> anyone have openarena running on 64 bit kubuntu?
[06:20] <dr_willis> jarn,  Global warming! You are melting the ice caps with that attitude! :)
[06:20] <kwoodard> fuck ... good thing I'm on this irc getting "support"
[06:20] <kwoodard> my ass
[06:21] <dr_willis> jarn,  you mean you have to physicially hit a button to power it back on?
[06:21] <jarn> dr_willis: Yes.
[06:21] <dr_willis> well i was going to answer kwoodard.. but guess not
[06:21] <jarn> lol
[06:21] <jarn> Some people have no patience.
[06:21] <dr_willis> jarn,  Hmm My printer dosent even have a power button
[06:22] <jarn> dr_willis: Mine does. And I need to hit it whenever I want to print in Linux.
[06:22] <dr_willis> abnd to answer kwood..    use the mount command, or edit fstab.. or that KDe control panel tool
[06:22] <dr_willis> heh heh
[06:22] <dr_willis> jarn,  odd. never seen that befor,
[06:22] <jarn> dr_willis: :(
[06:22] <l_r> lol
[06:22] <dr_willis> heck my printer is 10+ yrs old. and dont have it.
[06:22] <dr_willis> :)
[06:22] <klobster> how do I restart a service (acpi to be specific)
[06:22] <klobster> my printer is kinkos
[06:23] <dr_willis> sudo /etc/init.d/servicere restart
[06:23] <dr_willis> or similer
[06:23] <jarn> My printer is... I don't know how old. I got it free of freecycle.
[06:23] <jarn> My old one, in addition to not working in Linux, was such a pos that it barely worked in Windows.
[06:23] <jarn> So I found out the command line options to get the header I want.
[06:24] <dr_willis> sounds like a lexmark :)
[06:24] <klobster> dr_willis: thanks, why can I never remember that?
[06:24] <jarn> Is there a way to make it always use that?
[06:24] <jarn> It was a canon.
[06:24] <jarn> And a compaq.
[06:24] <jarn> Both printers were equally crappy.
[06:25] <dr_willis> heh. I will stick withmy old hp laserjet 6l for a while longer
[06:25] <jarn> Laserjet.
[06:25] <dr_willis> its outlasted like ... 9 pc's
[06:25] <jarn> Teh niceness.
[06:25] <jarn> So do you know how to use the options available through command-line printing when not in command-line printing?
[06:25] <jarn> Like can I enter somewhere what options I want to use?
[06:25] <klobster> dr_will the laserjet 6l!  i used to do tech support for her
[06:26] <jarn> I want to use the "prettyprint" option and the "outputorder=reverse" option.
[06:26] <dr_willis> printing under linux has gootten  sort of complex of late. I cant  rember the lat time  i printed fromteh command line.
[06:26] <dr_willis> there was that front end too, (xprint) i think that let ya do a lot of those tricks
[06:26] <dr_willis> !find xprint
[06:26] <ubotu> Found: libxcb-xprint0, libxcb-xprint0-dbg, libxcb-xprint0-dev, linuxprinting.org-ppds, linuxprinting.org-ppds-extra (and 10 others)
[06:26] <dr_willis> may be some other tools
[06:27] <dr_willis> xprint - Xprint - the X11 print system (binary)
[06:27] <jarn> Indeed.
[06:27] <jarn> Am installing it.
[06:27] <dr_willis> problem can get 6to be with using the old-style printing tools and the newer style.
[06:27] <jarn> Eh.
[06:27] <dr_willis> ive had somne real - oddness in the last 8+ years at times
[06:27] <jarn> It won't install anyway.
[06:27] <dr_willis> heh - it wont install here either.
[06:27] <dr_willis> odd
[06:28] <dr_willis> Depends: libx11-6 but it is not going to be installed or
[06:28] <jarn> Do you get that it conflicts with x11-common too?
[06:28] <jarn> Ah.
[06:28] <dr_willis> Depends: xprint-common but it is not going to be installed
[06:28] <jarn> I get that: The following packages have unmet dependencies:  x11-common: Conflicts: xprint (<= 1:0.1.0.alpha1-13) but 1:0.1.0.alpha1-10 is to be installed.
[06:28] <luiz> HELP !!!
[06:28] <dr_willis> x11-common: Conflicts: xprint (<= 1:0.1.0.alpha1-13) bu
[06:29] <dr_willis> !ask
[06:29] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:29] <luiz> I got the kubuntu SO, ... installed, conected to the internet, but cannot surf the web...
[06:30] <klobster> haha
[06:30] <klobster> luiz: J/k... can you ping something?  what is the problem?
[06:31] <dr_willis> this is a wired network connection? not wireless?
[06:32] <luiz> I am connected right now, I can chat in this program (Konversation) , but all connections to th internet, using other programs, fail...
[06:32] <klobster> what other programs?
[06:33] <klobster> knoqueror?
[06:33] <luiz> it's a wired connection, a dialled connection.
[06:33] <klobster> *konqueror?
[06:33] <luiz> yes...
[06:33] <luiz> konqueror fails
[06:33] <klobster> what error do you recieve?
[06:33] <luiz> wait...
[06:34] <dr_willis> so you are stating that just WEB sites fail?
[06:35] <klobster> dr_willis: thats what it sounds like, but I thought I would be polite.
[06:35] <luiz> tha messa ge is:  it wasn't possible connect to this machine...
[06:35] <klobster> what machine?
[06:36] <luiz> any web page I try to conect to ... for example: http://www.gmail.com/.
[06:37] <klobster> I want you to try thisin a command shell: ping www.gmail.com
[06:37] <luiz> ok...
[06:37] <klobster> luiz: I really need the exact wording of the error you recieve...
[06:38] <klobster> luiz: in konqueror, that is
[06:38] <luiz> this was the result:
[06:38] <luiz> --- googlemail.l.google.com ping statistics ---
[06:38] <luiz> 18 packets transmitted, 18 received, 0% packet loss, time 17068ms
[06:38] <luiz> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 267.946/277.707/315.731/11.775 ms
[06:39] <klobster> looks right for dialup
[06:39] <dr_willis> Hmm
[06:39] <Carnage\> Are you behind some firewall?
[06:39] <dr_willis> try ping  google.com            and try ping  64.233.167.99
[06:40] <klobster> !pastebin
[06:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[06:40] <dr_willis> try also ' http://64.233.167.99  '
[06:40] <klobster> luiz: I really need the exact wording of the error you recieve in konqueror  when you try to open gmail.com
[06:41] <luiz> I dont know about firewalls... I just installed the kubunto few minutes ago... I doesn't installed or configured any firewall...
[06:41] <klobster> luiz: what you are suggesting is that you are having browser issues, but you DO have internet access
[06:41] <dr_willis> that is very.. weird.
[06:41] <klobster> luiz: so we need to fix your browser.
[06:43] <klobster> luiz: so first, lets click the system menu icon and select home folder, let me know when it opens
[06:43] <luiz> well... I cant understad why am i talking to you  now... connected, and at the same time i cannot surf the web by konqueror...
[06:43] <jarn> luiz: Have you tried with a different browser?
[06:43] <dr_willis> luiz,  i wonder if your isp isent doing somthing.. odd...
[06:44] <dr_willis> luiz,  try  that    http://64.233.167.99 yet?
[06:44] <luiz> thats the point... this is the only one browser kubuntu comes with installed.
[06:44] <luiz> i'll try.
[06:45] <dr_willis> i wonder if lynx or linkx is installed also
[06:45] <dr_willis> lynx , links, w3m
[06:45] <luiz> I'll look for it now...
[06:46] <luiz> no... no other browsers... just konqueror ...
[06:46] <dr_willis> Oh yea - firefox isentisntaleld by default either.
[06:46] <klobster> luiz: it isn't.  can you use konqueror to browse internal files on your computer?
[06:46] <dr_willis> i wonder what  'sudo apt-get update' would do. :)
[06:46] <jarn> luiz: You could install a different browser since you can access the internet but just not use Konqueror.
[06:46] <luiz> yes... internally, its wonderful...
[06:47] <jarn> I've never had good luck with Konqueror.
[06:47] <jarn> luiz: I don't remember how big Firefox is, but you could try installing it and see if that works.
[06:47] <klobster> luiz: did you try 64.233.167.99 as a web address?
[06:48] <klobster> jarn: it's large. opera would be better
[06:48] <jarn> klobster: Ah.
[06:48] <dr_willis> lets get him a link he can wget for opera ... :)
[06:48] <luiz> I forgot to try apt-get... but the kuuntu tool... add/remove programs... it doesn't work
[06:48] <dr_willis> apt-get update
[06:48] <dr_willis> dont work?
[06:49] <klobster> luiz: did you try 64.233.167.99 as a web address?
[06:49] <luiz> yes... still error message...
[06:49] <mefisto__> I want to set up a home network (just 2 machines) to share folders, printers, etc. Could someone suggest a howto?
[06:50] <Admiral_Chicago> samba i think can do that
[06:50] <dr_willis> http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=29341&location=148&nothanks=yes&sub=marine
[06:50] <dr_willis> hmm wonder if he can wget that
[06:50] <mefisto__> Admiral_Chicago: yes, I have samba installed on both machines, need a walkthrough to set things up
[06:51] <dr_willis> fdrf
[06:51] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay i'm not good with samba, i just know thats teh tool to use
[06:51] <jarn> dr_willis: Yep, that cen be wget..ted?
[06:51] <klobster> 5 megs, though...
[06:52] <dr_willis> thats the url to opera.
[06:52] <dr_willis> darn weird urls
[06:52] <jarn> klobster: Better than nothing, no?
[06:52] <klobster> luiz: can you copy and paste the error message you recieve in konqueror?
[06:52] <jarn> klobster: It will take awhile, but such is life.
[06:52] <jarn> klobster: Do you know if lynx comes preinstalled?
[06:53] <klobster> luiz: I understand you can't pastebin, I hope no one will mind...
[06:53] <klobster> jarn: it does not
[06:53] <jarn> klobster: Ah.
[06:53] <jarn> I would certainly hope noone minds, considering that's one of his problems!
[06:53] <luiz> wI can copy, but it'i in portuguese... iI'm brazillian...
[06:53] <jarn> It would be awful narrow-minded of someone to mind.
[06:53] <klobster> w3m is on my sys, but I do not know if it is standard
[06:54] <jarn> klobster: I have it. I don't remember ever installing it, but I might have.
[06:54] <klobster> luiz: I'll try to find a translation, but I still need the erorr msg
[06:54] <jarn> klobster: Actually, I think it's standard since when I try to remove it it removes ubuntu-base.
[06:55] <luiz> can someona sugest a package really easy of getting by apt-get?
[06:56] <Admiral_Chicago> luiz: yakuake
[06:56] <luiz> Um erro ocorreu ao carregar http://www.gmail.com:
[06:56] <luiz> No foi possvel conectar-se  mquina http://www.gmail.com/.
[06:56] <klobster> luiz: opera
[06:56] <jarn> Hrm.
[06:57] <klobster> luiz: can you do this: type w3m www.gmail.com and let me know what happens (might take a bit)
[06:57] <jarn> I know a little bit of Spanish. It's kind of similar to Portugese and, if I'm understanding it correctly, it's saying exactly what he said it is.
[06:58] <luiz> I would be very happy if there was ANY browser i could get installed... the fact is that i cannot get no one, cause my connection don let me do so...
[06:58] <dr_willis> or telnet to www.gmail.com
[06:58] <jarn> luiz: You can't apt-get?
[06:59] <luiz> no...
[06:59] <klobster> luiz: w3m is a browser, although it is text only... moment while I research
[06:59] <luiz> apt-get says... impossible to find package...
[07:00] <luiz> ahhhhh wha's happening?????
[07:00] <dr_willis> luiz,  im tempted to tell ya to try out a Linux Live CD or 2 or 3. BUT on dialup.. egads...
[07:00] <dr_willis> PuppyLinux is like a 50mb download i think. :)
[07:00] <luiz> w3m???
[07:01] <jarn> dr_willis: That's still huge over dialup.
[07:01] <dr_willis> but it would be the ultimate test.. if he has same issue with PuppyLinux. then we know its some isp issue.
[07:01] <jarn> dr_willis: True.
[07:01] <dr_willis> I cant imagine how he got to freenode. and  cant resplove other names
[07:01] <dr_willis> Unless the irc client has the ip#'s in the server list
[07:02] <jarn> dr_willis: I could understand the konqueror being weird, but apt-get surprises me. Konqueror is, imo, a piece of crap. I know it's not normal behavior, but it's actually slow. If I download anything through it, I download at less than 1% of normal speed. Pages take forever to load and it crashes frequently.
[07:02] <jarn> That's why I switched to Firefox.
[07:03] <luiz> well... I tried ubuntu. and... OK... the connection works wonderfully... but in kubuntu... NO...
[07:03] <bky> what package would freeimage be in?
[07:03] <dr_willis> jarn,  cant say that ivbe ever had those issues.
[07:03] <dr_willis> luiz,  thats EVEN weirder now...
[07:03] <jarn> dr_willis: Yeah. It's not normal behavior, but it happened to me.
[07:04] <jarn> luiz: If you switch back to gnome, does it still work? Or did that stop working too once you installed kde?
[07:04] <dr_willis> How are you accessing the dialup? what program?
[07:05] <klobster> luiz: how are you opening konqueror.  and what did w3m do?
[07:06] <luiz> no... i had installed kubuntu... used it for a week , everything working fine... so I decided to uninstal ubuntu and install kubuntu...
[07:06] <luiz> now... here am I...
[07:06] <dr_willis> luiz,  hmm..   you got a ubuntu live cd, and a kubuntu live cd?
[07:07] <rookie1_1998> i have a gparted related question any one knows where i should go
[07:07] <klobster> luiz: next time you can just install the kde-desktop if you want to switch, it will save time.  in fact you _could_ install gnome-desktop, if you think ubuntu will fix your internet issue
[07:07] <luiz> I tried using KPPP, it doesn't worked... so I reconfigured ppp-config, and conecct by the (pon) command.
[07:08] <klobster> luiz: how are you opening konqueror?
[07:08] <Jucato> (there's no kde-desktop package, only kubuntu-desktop package *or* kde package)
[07:08] <luiz> yes... both SOs... Ubuntu worked fine... but kubuntu oesn't work...
[07:09] <dr_willis> Odd....
[07:09] <luiz> it is not in live state... it's alread installed im my pc...
[07:09] <klobster> luiz did you try other websites, or only gmail?
[07:09] <dr_willis> you could always install  ubuntu from the live cd, and then use the kubuntu cd to install the kubuntu-desktop packages I guess.
[07:10] <luiz> I tryed many others...
[07:10] <Jucato> dr_willis: only if using the alternate install cd
[07:10] <Jucato> (not the desktop/live cd)
[07:10] <luiz> i used the kubuntu live cd...
[07:11] <dr_willis> he couldent copy the package files over to /var/apt  and then isntall?
[07:11] <Jucato> dr_willis: from the live cd? nope. there are no .deb packages on it
[07:12] <dr_willis> Oh the Humnity!
[07:12] <dr_willis> Where are they then? heh
[07:12] <Jucato> only available on the alternate install cd.
[07:13] <dr_willis> so the live cd installs some sort of 'system image' then eh? Ive rarely used the livecd installer
[07:13] <Jucato> dr_willis: it basically copies what's on the Live CD, minus QtParted and Ubiquity
[07:13] <luiz> what coud be happening? I am connected, talking to you guys, but cannot acess a web page...
[07:14] <ubunturos> luiz: no DNS resolution?
[07:14] <Jucato> luiz: um... wild guess. DNS issue (in /etc/resolv.conf)
[07:14] <klobster> luiz: ok try this: and tell me what happens: sudo konqueror gmail.com
[07:14] <luiz> ok...
[07:15] <jarn> klobster: Shouldn't he use kdesu?
[07:15] <Jucato> he should
[07:16] <luiz> ops... I can' think what to say... IT WORKED... it was a permission problem?
[07:16] <dr_willis> it just gets weird er and weirder...
[07:16] <dr_willis> i wonder if its a dialup/group/user issue?
[07:16] <Jucato> or as Alice would say, "curiouser and curiouser"
[07:16] <dr_willis> but WHY dident 'sudo apt-get update' work then?
[07:16] <klobster> luiz: I was hoping you would say it did NOT work, because then i could say i was at a loss.  it's a kde thing, im afraid.  give me a sec on a fix
[07:17] <luiz> ok... sudo konqueror gmail worked... what do I heve to do now?
[07:17] <klobster> luiz: how many users have you set up?
[07:17] <Jucato> wait. so IRC and apt-get both work? but not web browsing?
[07:17] <luiz> only one...
[07:17] <klobster> jucato: yup
[07:17] <Jucato> try creating a new user and login to that and check web browsing
[07:18] <luiz> only irc work...
[07:18] <klobster> jucato: that should work
[07:18] <luiz> why sudo konqueror gmail worked?
[07:18] <Jucato> luiz: because it is running konqueror as root, not as your user
[07:19] <luiz> ah... so how can I make my user work?
[07:22] <luiz> hello...
[07:22] <klobster> luiz: can you do: mv ~/.kde/share/config/kio_httprc ~/.kde/share/config/kio_httprc.bak
[07:22] <luiz> at konsole?
[07:22] <klobster> and: mv ~/.kde/share/config/Kioslaverc ~/.kde/share/config/Kioslaverc.bak
[07:22] <klobster> yes in konsole
[07:23] <luiz> the first one than the other, correct?
[07:24] <klobster> either or
[07:24] <luiz> ok.
[07:25] <luiz> I entered the first command... no messages in result.
[07:25] <luiz> ...
[07:25] <klobster> good
[07:26] <klobster> you should recieve no msg
[07:27] <jwallingford> how do i update thunderbird to version 2.0?
[07:27] <klobster> luiz?
[07:29] <luiz> do I have to enter that second command?
[07:30] <klobster> yes
[07:30] <dregorth> Hobbsee: sorry about the away message thing
[07:30] <dregorth> Hobbsee: i shoulda read the rules a lil' more closely heh
[07:30] <Hobbsee> dregorth: no problem.  assuming it's off now :)
[07:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: wielding the sword of power eh?
[07:31] <dregorth> Hobbsee: doing that right now. first time using konversation and didn't know it'd do that cuz i had to go away and set the option quickly without looking at it
[07:31] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: stick of power, more probably :)
[07:31] <Hobbsee> dregorth: ahh.  it's turned off by default, thank goodness.
[07:31] <klobster> luiz: have you entered the second command yet?
[07:32] <Hobbsee> dregorth: you'll see there's a connection, set away globally, which wont produce that message unless you tell it to
[07:32] <dregorth> Hobbsee: that's what i get for having my bro set it up
[07:32] <dregorth> don't i feel like a noob :S
[07:32] <Jucato> Hobbsee: you're running Konvi SVN aren't you?
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: no, she definetly carries a sword like RMS...
[07:32] <Jucato> hehe ;)
[07:32] <luiz> yes...... that's the error message: Impossible to make stat in .... archive or directory inesistent
[07:33] <luiz> oh... my english fails...
[07:33] <Jucato> klobster: the second command looks a bit wrong. Linux is case sensitive
[07:34] <Hobbsee> Jucato: yes
[07:34] <Hobbsee> dregorth: heh
[07:34] <Hobbsee> dregorth: it's fine :)
[07:34] <dregorth> Hobbsee: all i ask is that you don't remember my nick as being an idiot lol
[07:34] <klobster> jucato: doh!
[07:34] <Hobbsee> nah
[07:34] <dregorth> Hobbsee: i swear i'm a great guy!
[07:34] <luiz> I copied and pasted... I'll try again...
[07:34] <Jucato> Hobbsee: figured. only the SVN version has the Connection menu. on 1.0.1 it's still File menu :)
[07:34] <Hobbsee> :)
[07:34] <dregorth> just not all that great when it comes to things i know very little about
[07:34] <Hobbsee> ahhh...
[07:34] <Hobbsee> well, file then
[07:34] <klobster> luiz: try this
[07:34] <Hobbsee> dregorth: you'll learn :)
[07:35] <dregorth> Hobbsee: well, thanks for the encouragement
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: for real? awesome...
[07:35] <dregorth> :)
[07:35] <klobster> and: mv ~/.kde/share/config/kioslaverc ~/.kde/share/config/kioslaverc.bak
[07:35] <Hobbsee> Jucato: nice!
[07:35] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: not committing it, but rather poking the dev to change it and suggesting the name :)
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> ah lol.
[07:35] <Jucato> (but only because there was no other logical name, but we're still thinking about it)
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> bbiab, programming my life away.
[07:35] <Jucato> hehe :)
[07:36] <luiz> Kind of stupid question, but... do I have to type "and" too?
[07:37] <klobster> no, no and
[07:37] <luiz> ok...
[07:37] <klobster> luiz: sorry, I should have cut that out the scond time
[07:38] <luiz> I entered the command, and no error massages.
[07:38] <dregorth> i want everyone's input on this. who of you has websites that you check daily for gnu/linux news and updates (especially relating to kubuntu info)? also, which sites might those be?
[07:38] <rollerskatejamms> Anybody know why my nvidia card might only work with vesa
[07:38] <rollerskatejamms> nv and nvidia wont work
[07:38] <Admiral_Chicago> dregorth: http://planetkde.org/ planet.ubuntu.com ... but this belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <klobster> dregorth: /.
[07:39] <klobster> luiz: done?
[07:39] <dregorth> Admiral_Chicago: sorry
[07:39] <dregorth> this day gets greater and greater by the minute
[07:39] <luiz> yes... no erro messages...
[07:40] <klobster> ok, we need to restart kde.  you can log off and do a ctrl-alt-bksp or you can reboot, your choice
[07:40] <klobster> luiz: ^
[07:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[07:41] <luiz> ok... I'lll come back soon...
[07:41] <klobster> hello, dr^H^H milhouse!
[07:41] <klobster> luiz: me too, cacer calls...
[07:41] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: I stumbled across your website lately, is it possible to convert to kde-core without a fresh start?
[07:42] <luiz> I'm back...
[07:43] <klobster> me too
[07:44] <luiz> ok... what's next?
[07:44] <klobster> luiz:try konqueror gmail.com in the konsole
[07:45] <luiz> the problem still happens...
[07:45] <MilhousePunkRock> luiz: What is the problem?
[07:46] <Zaikonaut> after resuming from hibernate, there are two processes (kacpid and kacpi_notify) which keep more than 80% of my processor busy. does anybody know how i can work around this ubuntu bug?
[07:46] <luiz> I can connect, by dialled conection, talk to you here, bur konqueror don't conects to websites, neither apt-get works...
[07:47] <klobster> luiz: Im at a loss.  if you create another user, it _should be able to access the web.  it's a permissions issue, but I cant resolve without more research
[07:47] <MilhousePunkRock> luiz: Did you check if it's some proxy issue?
[07:48] <klobster> luiz: are you sure apt-get does not work?
[07:48] <luiz> ok... thanks A LOT ... Ill try this solution...
[07:48] <MilhousePunkRock> Zaikonaut: Does it stay that way?
[07:48] <Zaikonaut> MilhousePunkRock: it does
[07:48] <luiz> If you get any solution, luizevandro@gmail.com , ok?
[07:49] <klobster> MilhousePunkrock: luiz cannot access the web with konqueror only.
[07:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Zaikonaut: Because those two are obviously part of the power management
[07:49] <klobster> luiz: wait
[07:49] <luiz> ops... luizevandro1@gmail.com...
[07:49] <luiz> waiting...
[07:49] <klobster> luiz: can you try one more thing? in konsole type konqueror ftp://ling.lll.hawaii.edu/
[07:49] <Zaikonaut> MilhousePunkRock: yeah, it looks like power management is somehow damaged by my using hibernate
[07:49] <luiz> ok...
[07:50] <klobster> zaikonaut: how many kernels do this?
[07:50] <luiz> it seems that worked...
[07:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Zaikonaut: Power management is a really tricky thing... I assume it's a laptop we are talking about? Maybe you could check if there is an IRC channel for it?
[07:51] <luiz> i cam see some files...
[07:51] <Zaikonaut> klobster: i tested only two
[07:51] <MilhousePunkRock> luiz: Check the control center if there is some proxy set
[07:51] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: yes. check this out: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde-core
[07:52] <klobster> luiz: ok that means it is an http issue, thank you that helps
[07:53] <klobster> MilhousePunkRock: it's only with http and only in konqueror
[07:53] <luiz> no proxy sets.. it's setted to connect directilly to internet.
[07:53] <klobster> MilhousePunkRock: kdesu konqueror works
[07:53] <klobster> MilhousePunkRock: it's a fun one, huh?
[07:54] <luiz> no socks enabled too...
[07:54] <MilhousePunkRock> It was worth a try, wasn't it...
[07:54] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: Hmm, that looks like it is going to uninstall just about everything...
[07:55] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: that's the point. it will only leave a very minimal system. that's kde-core
[07:55] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: then you try to build your desired system on top of that, adding only the stuff you need and want
[07:55] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: I have uninstalled pretty much everything I do not need, does that have the same effect?
[07:55] <Jucato> more or less
[07:56] <MilhousePunkRock> fair enough
[07:57] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there a way to get rid of that korganizer notification thing in the system area?
[07:57] <dregorth> ya. use save session and just save your session when you select to quit that daemon
[07:57] <dregorth> that's how i solved it
[07:57] <klobster> luiz: i will look into it and email you if I can solve.
[07:57] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: i could point you to the thread as soon as i find it if you want
[07:57] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: That'd be great
[07:58] <klobster> luiz: in the mean time create a new user; it should be able to access the web.
[07:58] <klobster> luiz: and I believe apt-get _does_ work, but we didn't do a proper test of it
[07:58] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3081007.0
[07:58] <UFFFFFF> may I ask a qustion?
[07:58] <klobster> !ask
[07:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:58] <Admiral_Chicago> UFFFFFF: go for it
[07:59] <UFFFFFF> how to install the file Toshiba_GL1010_CUPS.ppd
[07:59] <luiz> ok... my email is luizevandro1@gmail.com... whith the number one at tha and of my name, don't forget... hehe  lol
[08:00] <UFFFFFF> Admiral: how to install the file Toshiba_GL1010_CUPS.ppd?
[08:01] <virusa> hi al
[08:01] <virusa> hello from georgia
[08:01] <Maxdamantus> Anyone here managed to get 2X Application Server Client/Server working properly?
[08:01] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: that help at all?
[08:02] <virusa> can you help me with compilation
[08:02] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: Still reading
[08:02] <Maxdamantus> Whenever I try, it shows me the whole desktop, instead of loading the program and displaying it seperately.
[08:03] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: k
[08:07] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: I followed Jucato's hint and edited the korgac.desktop... Let me check if it works...
[08:11] <Zaikonaut> on the nvidia drivers page, what is the driver that i can use for the following soundcard: "00:05.0 audio device: nvidia corporation mcp61 high definition audio (rev a2)"
[08:14] <MilhousePunkRock> That brings up another issue that feisty delivered: I can
[08:14] <MilhousePunkRock> not log out anymore, KDM won't come up....
[08:15] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: weird...
[08:16] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: umm did that come up because of the attempted fix for the daemon or no?
[08:17] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: no... I guess the daemon will be there, since I kmail is launched autoatically...
[08:18] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: ah ok well as long as you're happy with it. never worked with kmail so didn't know it did that
[08:19] <MilhousePunkRock> maybe if I used KMail without KOrganizer, since I do not really need the rest...
[08:20] <dregorth> seems plausible but i don't wanna tell you to try it and then it screw something up lol
[08:20] <dregorth> just never worked with kmail so didn't know how it worked and whether it needed korganizer daemon running or what the deal was
[08:23] <MilhousePunkRock> To get the names right now: I just launched KMail directly and not from Kontact, now it came up with the KOrganizer daemon...
[08:24] <MilhousePunkRock> WITHOUT that is, not with
[08:25] <dregorth> ok so it didn't pop up when opening kmail
[08:25] <dregorth> right? lol
[08:26] <MilhousePunkRock> let's hope it stays that way...
[08:26] <dregorth> good
[08:26] <dregorth> if that first way doesn't work then try the second
[08:26] <dregorth> the second one worked for me and haven't had probs since :)
[08:27] <MilhousePunkRock> I might get am Palm some day again, that's when Kontact will come in handy again...
[08:27] <dregorth> ya those are pretty handy
[08:27] <dregorth> i prolly won't get one for a while tho as i wouldn't have much of a need for one nowadays
[08:27] <MilhousePunkRock> Is there any chance to sync a PocketPC with linux at all?
[08:28] <dregorth> i'm sure it's plausible somehow but have no idea heh
[08:28] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: How much of the stuff we have do we really need?
[08:28] <dregorth> not much lol
[08:31] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: I might use a palm as a remote control for Amarok on my desktop with bluetooth... :D
[08:36] <kraut> moin
[08:37] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: that'd be awesome. never thought of doing that before :D
[08:38] <dregorth> i had a palm a few years ago (pretty darn old one too) and i used it as a remote for the tv hehe
[08:38] <dregorth> good ol' IR
[08:39] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: I saw a plugin/skript for Amarok that would enable a web interface controllable via http
[08:40] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: wow there is so much i've yet to learn about amarok lol
[08:40] <dregorth> just more reason to complete my move to strictly feisty
[08:41] <dregorth> and take away the xp partition to feed to it :D
[08:46] <nbcb> hi i just bought a razor optical 7 buttons, how do i configure the 7 buttons, or must i install any drivers for it?
[08:48] <dregorth> MilhousePunkRock: well time for me to get goin. good talking with ya! :D
[08:48] <MilhousePunkRock> dregorth: I am about to leave too... Have a good one, tty next time
[08:55] <bulwynkl> !mdadm
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mdadm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <plugs> If i cut the number-pad section of my keyboard off, will the rest still work?
[08:59] <baudthief> plugs: yep
[09:00] <baudthief> well depends how clean the cut is, but yep
[09:00] <plugs> hmm...
[09:00] <_doswell> amyrose,do you know  about Linux installation stuff?
[09:00] <plugs> thanx baudthief
[09:00] <baudthief> np
[09:01] <bulwynkl> hey all, I've got a failed upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 - what are my options? can I reinstall kubuntu from the CDs while keeping my userland settings? Or do I need to do a fresh install somewhere else (I was going to add another 300GB disk anyway). if the latter, how do I backup and restore my stuff so that I have as little reconfiguration to do as possible?
[09:01] <bulwynkl> any hints would be appreciated
[09:01] <bulwynkl> !reinstall
[09:01] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[09:01] <AmyRose> !rules | _doswell
[09:01] <ubotu> _doswell: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:02] <_doswell> ok, i don't understand
[09:03] <tine> join
[09:03] <baudthief> bulwynkl: heh I'm giving up, too many issues I cant find answers to with ubuntu (severe video tearing even when vsync/vblank is enabled (makes it impossible to watch vids), clipboard clears when app is closed (really annoying!), VERY poor network performance, any fullscreen games randomly crash out of fullscreen, etc)
[09:03] <baudthief> might just move back to windows :(
[09:04] <baudthief> I'm really gonna miss beryl, evolution and eyecandy though
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: what problems are you having
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> ah i see
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> perhaps related to your video card on some of them
[09:07] <_doswell> anyone, Iinstalled edubuntu  80% the other day, but"low memory mode"came up. I shut down the install,then my whole system went blank
[09:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: i don't sleep...
[09:08] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: teach me how to do that please!!!!
[09:08] <baudthief> Admiral_Chicago: Funny though, I actually bought this card specifically to run ubuntu :p
[09:08] <Jucato> sleep is so counterproductive..
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> haha, i dunno, i'm a night person really
[09:09] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: what video card?
[09:09] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: I seem to be a late afternoon to early night person :/
[09:10] <_doswell> uboto, where are these rules?
[09:10] <Jucato> !ubotu | _doswell
[09:10] <ubotu> _doswell: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:10] <baudthief> Admiral_Chicago:  nVidia 7600GS
[09:11] <baudthief> had an ATi X700 before that I couldn't get to work well with feisty + beryl, so I threw it out and bought a nVidia heh
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> do you use the nvidia driver...ah yes probably for beryl
[09:11] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm i have a Fx 5200 that runs perfectly...
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> well not perfectly but i have no probel
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg
[09:12] <Admiral_Chicago> did you ever run that? it may help
[09:12] <baudthief> Admiral_Chicago: never tried, what if it breaks the install?
[09:13] <Jucato> it won't break the install. worst thing that could happen is that X won't get back up, but that can be easily solved too.
[09:13] <Admiral_Chicago> it wont
[09:13] <Jucato> don't you just love modularity? :)
[09:13] <hangthedj> baudthief: backup your xorg.conf
[09:14] <baudthief> alright backed up, gonna give it a shot
[09:15] <baudthief> It's asking for the x-server driver, do I just select nvidia?
[09:15] <_doswell> amyrose, where are oyur rules?
[09:15] <_doswell> your
[09:18] <AmyRose> [02:17]  <-- _doswell has left this channel ("Konversation terminated!"). <-- :)
[09:19] <Jucato> AmyRose: hm?
[09:19] <AmyRose> Jucato: He was annoying me ;)
[09:19] <Jucato> er where? didn't see it in the channel
[09:19] <KevinAlaska> I am always annoying you.. ;P
[09:20] <KevinAlaska> speaking of annoying you.. :)
[09:21] <KevinAlaska> what is the easist way to format and mount a HDD in Kubuntu that is currently formated NTFS and is internal IDE2 master? :)
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: yes
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> sorry i didn't see it
[09:22] <Jucato> KevinAlaska: QtParted or GParted.
[09:22] <KevinAlaska> ohhh.. okay.. I think I have that installed. :)
[09:22] <KevinAlaska> be back in a few... :)  and thanks again!  (((walks to other puter)))
[09:23] <baudthief> Admiral_Chicago: finished reconfiguring, do I just restart and test?
[09:24] <baudthief> to be safe I manually entered all the technical specs of the monitor (horizontal / vertical scan rates, etc)
[09:25] <hangthedj> baudthief: you should just be able to do (control+alt+backspace) to restart X
[09:26] <baudthief> alright, trying, wish me luck!
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> yea do that
[09:28] <KevinAlaska> woot.. thank you Jucato... if you had a dime for each time you helped me.. you would ... be able to go to lunch .... in maybe another week.. :)  anyhow.. you have helped alot! Thank you again! ;)
[09:28] <Jucato> heh you're welcome :)
[09:28] <Admiral_Chicago> KevinAlaska: Jucato is really a very intelligent robot.
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: but you can paypal me some dimes if you wish :)
[09:29] <Jucato> heh you're welcome :)
[09:29] <Jucato> heh you're welcome :)
[09:29] <KevinAlaska> lol.. yeah.. where can I get a robot like that for my own?! sharper image?
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> yes.
[09:31] <baudthief> No luck :(
[09:31] <baudthief> it actually broke beryl, video tearing was far worse (even when just dragging windows)
[09:31] <flake> why is no one using fedora
[09:31] <baudthief> so I restored xorg.conf and I'm now back to square1
[09:31] <flake> maybe i'm exaggerating
[09:31] <n8k99> flake ask that in #fedora
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> yum is probably part of the reason...
[09:32] <flake> did it turn yucky
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> it has been in under heavy development for a while though
[09:33] <hangthedj> how come yum takes like an hour to resolve dependencies?
[09:33] <baudthief> flake: all window decorations disappeared, just left with white frameborders, nothing is draggable, and the console window is just a white box that doesnt allow interaction
[09:34] <flake> i was just curious, i look at the distrowatch and see it faalling
[09:34] <baudthief> or was that question not directed at me :p
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: look at the beryl page, they have options for fixing it..
[09:34] <Admiral_Chicago> let me grab the link
[09:35] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Troubleshooting_nVidia#My_windows_don.27t_have_any_decorations_.28title_bar.2C_resize_handles.2C_minimize.2Fmaximize.2Fclose_buttons.29
[09:36] <baudthief> Admiral_Chicago: Used that article to fix it a while ago, the borders were restored by the video tearing still remains (which is the main problem, I can't watch videos or anything)
[09:36] <baudthief> *but the
[09:36] <baudthief> problem is still there even when beryl isn't used
[09:36] <Admiral_Chicago> what do you mean video tearing?
[09:37] <hangthedj> what video engine are you using?
[09:37] <baudthief> when you move windows sideways, or you play a video with a fast action scene, it's "torn" - a bit hard to explain, it's like you've cut the bottom half of the screen, and moved it 20px to the left (or random px)
[09:38] <baudthief> hangthedj: glx
[09:38] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: no you probably use xine...
[09:39] <baudthief> oh sorry, didn't understand the question
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> oh i see what you mean...
[09:39] <ph8> can anyone tell me how to add startup programs like beryl-manager to my session? I can't find the option anywhere!
[09:39] <baudthief> it's not just video playback though, it's everything
[09:39] <Admiral_Chicago> ph8: ~/.kde/Autostart
[09:39] <ph8> thx
[09:40] <baudthief> heh looks like there really is no solution ;\
[09:40] <ph8> Admiral_Chicago: I have nothing in there right now - how do the files need to be formatted?
[09:40] <Admiral_Chicago> you create a link
[09:40] <ph8> ln -s to the exe?
[09:40] <hangthedj> or a script
[09:40] <ph8> the executable rather :p
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> ph8: you can do it graphically...
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: maybe baudthief needs to set his default depth down?
[09:41] <Admiral_Chicago> !autostart
[09:42] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart. The package 'kcontrol-autostart' makes a kcontrol item for handling items in that directory.
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, no link to a page...
[09:42] <Tm_T> hi kids
[09:42] <baudthief> Admiral_Chicago: tried changing the depth repeatedly
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there Tm_T
[09:42] <Admiral_Chicago> really? to 16
[09:43] <baudthief> changed resolutions, sync settings, pretty much everything!
[09:43] <baudthief> yup tried 16, even if that worked, it's a bit of a waste to keep it at 16bpp!
[09:46] <baudthief> I want to try one last option before giving up
[09:46] <baudthief> A *COMPLETE* re-install of everything. But I want a way to restore everything, is there a decent "ghost" substitute for linux?
[09:46] <baudthief> *in case it doesnt work out
[09:47] <baudthief> it took me ages to get to this point, heaps of little tweaks to get everything up and running
[09:47] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: sorry kinda busy. not sure about the default depth
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: there is away...
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> well to restore your installed programs...
[09:50] <Admiral_Chicago> give me a second...
[09:50] <baudthief> heh i'm more worried about the printer drivers etc, they were a pain ;\
[09:50] <baudthief> thanks
[09:51] <Admiral_Chicago> baudthief: http://j1m.net/chi-ubuntu/2007/05/12/ok-instead-of-apt-on-cd/
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> that is a good way to restore your packages.
[09:52] <Admiral_Chicago> as for the printer drivers, not sure
[09:52] <baudthief> that's a start! thanks
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> good luck, sorry i can't be of more help, i have a program to churn out
[09:53] <baudthief> heh no worries, I gotta think about it carefully ;\
[09:54] <baudthief> thanks for your time
[09:54] <Admiral_Chicago> np
[09:55] <hangthedj> you could just back them up manually, i think the directory is /usr/share/ppd
[10:01] <Timsen> hi, i use feisty and need to use the mysql-server-4.1, I installed that package but the version shows me that it uses the version 5.0
[10:04] <premier_> could somebody recomend a dvd ripping program? I've tried dvd::rip and acid rip
[10:04] <hangthedj> !k9copy
[10:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:05] <hangthedj> Timsen: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-4.1
[10:06] <Timsen> yes I installed the package already but how can I explicitly use it
[10:06] <Timsen> if I check the version of the running server it shows me the 5.0
[10:07] <premier_> lol, the "cancel" button says "annuler"... is this a german program?
[10:07] <hangthedj> premier_: yes but the rest is in english
[10:07] <_4strO> premier_: it's french ;)
[10:08] <flowingfire> .
[10:08] <premier_> hangthedj: its no big deal, I just think its cool... I'm using an international operating system
[10:09] <hangthedj> Timsen: sorry read the original question to fast. it looks the mysql-server package is 5.0 so maybe try apt-get remove mysql-server mysql-server-5.0 && apt-get install mysql-server-4.1? i'm not sure.
[10:11] <premier_> hey, my external taskbar just disappeared
[10:11] <premier_> It happened once before, I have no idea why
[10:11] <flowingfire> Premier-- funny... I'm using an operating system with a South African name programmed by people all over the world that isn't subject to the patent laws of my country. lovely. :)
[10:12] <premier_> flowingfire: really?  I'm using an American OS, because I'm an American!  Only an American OS can do things like Ubuntu can!
[10:12] <premier_> you should use an American OS
[10:13] <flowingfire> LOL
[10:13] <hangthedj> !ubuntu
[10:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[10:14] <premier_> okay, thats weird... now my external taskbar is on top of my regular taskbar
[10:14] <premier_> I'm sorry, but kde needs to replace kicker... I can't wait until kde4 betas start coming out
[10:14] <flowingfire> kde4 .... yum...
[10:14] <flowingfire> i mean apt-get
[10:15] <flowingfire> lol
[10:15] <premier_> !botsnack
[10:15] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[10:15] <flowingfire> hahahahaaha
[10:15] <premier_> ubotu is so fun, watch this
[10:15] <premier_> !bill gates
[10:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bill gates - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:15] <premier_> !anything
[10:15] <flowingfire> gawd c:/dos.  c:/dos run.
[10:15] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[10:16] <_4strO> ;o
[10:16] <Jucato> !botabuse | premier_
[10:16] <ubotu> premier_: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[10:16] <flowingfire> ROTFL
[10:17] <premier_> flowing fire, you should message ubotu and say everything I said... for some reason ubotu messaged me saying he wasn't smart
[10:17] <elcuco> hi, whats the shortcut for katapult?
[10:17] <flowingfire> heh.
[10:17] <_4strO> alt-space
[10:17] <elcuco>  that is the window menu, kwin
[10:17] <flowingfire> !sex
[10:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:18] <_4strO> unluck
[10:18] <Jucato> elcuco: then you have probably changed the default. Alt+F3 is the window menu
[10:18] <Jucato> Alt+Space is for Katapult
[10:18] <elcuco> how do i change the shortcut for katapult?
[10:18] <Jucato> elcuco: Alt+Space no longer launches it?
[10:19] <jean> hello
[10:19] <_4strO> !upgrade
[10:19] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[10:19] <elcuco> no, not even after i changed the shortcut for the window menu back to alt+f3
[10:19] <flowingfire> !repositories
[10:19] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[10:20] <jean> is there a way to clean the internet data of konqueror like in firefox?
[10:20] <Jucato> elcuco: press alt+f2, type in "dcop katapult Katapult showLauncher" then press Ctrl+C
[10:21] <KevinAlaska> KELP!  I mean HELP!  when I get a permission denied on a 'sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/backup' what could be the problem there? :S
[10:21] <elcuco> i needed to restart katapul, now it does work
[10:22] <Jucato> ok
[10:22] <KevinAlaska> ok.... humm?  something following that 'ok' word? :)
[10:23] <_4strO> KevinAlaska: we need more information
[10:23] <KevinAlaska> like some kind of glorous moment of linux wisdom ...
[10:23] <Jucato> er was responding to elcuco :)
[10:23] <KevinAlaska> there it is.. I KNEW it! :)
[10:23] <Jucato> what is?
[10:23] <KevinAlaska> ahh.. heh. sorry. :P
[10:24] <Jucato> KevinAlaska: like what _4strO said, more info would be nice
[10:24] <KevinAlaska> I am growing with a dependency on you for help.. you know you can never take time off off of here.... you know that right!?  :P
[10:24] <KevinAlaska> how can I get that info?
[10:25] <KevinAlaska> did that QTparted .. primary partition and only one partition on there.. ext 3
[10:25] <ltb_emonkey> morghn
[10:25] <KevinAlaska> labeled backup
[10:25] <Jucato> hm..
[10:26] <maetzje> Hoi! Mann, is das so dmlich. Kein Download-Link fr aMSN funzt...
[10:26] <maetzje> Hat jemand was funktionierendes?
[10:26] <_4strO> !de | maetzje
[10:26] <ubotu> maetzje: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[10:27] <KevinAlaska> sweet.. ubotu speaks german. :)
[10:27] <_4strO> KevinAlaska: did you do something about the user and group management ?
[10:27] <hangthedj> !us
[10:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about us - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:27] <maetzje> Uh, sorry :) I do not found a functional aMSN-Download-Link.
[10:27] <maetzje> F...
[10:27] <KevinAlaska> Noo o o  o  o    o.... do not think so ever.
[10:27] <maetzje> But this is not soooo important.
[10:28] <_4strO> maetzje: sudo apt-get install amsn ?
[10:28] <maetzje> I want just to try "Konversation" :)
[10:28] <maetzje> Oh.. uh.. h... i want to see... moment.
[10:28] <smithw> Hello everyone... I'm trying to get a resolution of 1280x960 on my 15" monitor on my newly installed Kubuntu 7.04, but that has been a nightmare. The drivers are OK (xorg's log reports even direct rendering working), I know for a fact that the monitor supports it (windows and another linux distros have suceeded), but I tried half a dozen different modelines and none of them have worked. I have set UseEDID to False, and I can provide xorg
[10:28] <smithw> 's log if needed (although it just reports that the resolution is not "validated"). Any thoughts?
[10:29] <chijin> smithw: ati card?
[10:29] <maetzje> OH no... i am so stupid. Thx @ _4str0
[10:29] <smithw> chijin, nope, nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 on a lg studioworks 560n...
[10:29] <_4strO> yw
[10:29] <maetzje> I am a typical Windows-user.
[10:29] <KevinAlaska> smithw.. I had GREAT luck with he program called Envy .. works on ATI and nVidia
[10:29] <_4strO> smithw: have you look into your xorg.conf ?
[10:29] <maetzje> But i am not unhealby
[10:30] <chijin> smithw: i know some people with an ati card have had trouble setting the 1280x960 and finally failing at it.. it has something to do with the xorg 7.2 and maybe the drivers too
[10:30] <smithw> KevinAlaska, I'll google it...
[10:30] <KevinAlaska> I can get the address.. i have it here.. one sec
[10:31] <KevinAlaska> smithw it is www.albertomilone.com
[10:31] <smithw> _4strO, I've have severely changed it... Tried half a dozen modelines calculators, all of them provided different results and none suceeded.
[10:31] <maetzje> #logout
[10:31] <KevinAlaska> I googled a website that gave me a nice walk through on it a test drive if you will.. was on the first page of the google search
[10:31] <smithw> chijin, well... guess I'm lucky to use a nvidia card, then...
[10:32] <_4strO> smithw: can you paste the file ?
[10:32] <smithw> KevinAlaska, Thanks!
[10:32] <smithw> _4strO, yep. which pastebin?
[10:32] <KevinAlaska> best of luck on it
[10:32] <_4strO> !paste
[10:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:32] <KevinAlaska> I was inpressed with it.
[10:33] <chijin> smithw: that issue might be there with a nvidia card too :P
[10:33] <smithw> _4strO, ok... I'll be back in two minutes, I'll start X on a 1024x768 resolution and come back from there (I'm on another computer right now)
[10:33] <_4strO> ok
[10:34] <KevinAlaska> jucato, any ideas... actually I am thinking of just logging in for the night and getting a full nights sleep for the first time this week.. so I will just do that.. thank you everone and best wishes on your trouble shooting
[10:34] <smithw> chijin, I pray to heavens for you to be wrong... :p
[10:34] <smithw> brb
[10:37] <pawitp> smithw, I have a mx 440 right next to me
[10:38] <smithw> !paste
[10:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[10:40] <smithw> pawitp: do you know a 1280x960 modeline that works on a 15" monitor?
[10:40] <smithw> _4strO: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23557/
[10:41] <pawitp> smithw: I'm trying to find a working 32bit Ubuntu CD
[10:41] <pawitp> and when I find one, I found out that it is an alternative cd
[10:42] <_4strO> smithw: did you try without the HorizSync and VertRefresh ?
[10:42] <smithw> pawitp: where are you looking for?
[10:42] <smithw> _4strO: yes... and then, instead of 1024x768, I get 640x480.
[10:43] <_4strO> weird
[10:43] <pawitp> smithw: A ubuntu live cd
[10:44] <smithw> pawitp: I know there's something I'm overlooking and that will make me look stupid, but... Why don't you just download it?
[10:44] <pawitp> Cause you will resolve the problem before I finish
[10:46] <smithw> pawitp: what is it that the one (ones?) you have doesn't (don't?) work? or do you only have the alternative cd?
[10:46] <pawitp>    I have the 64bit CD
[10:47] <smithw> _4strO: the commented out modelines are the ones I tried without success...
[10:48] <pawitp> Try commenting out ALL the modelines
[10:49] <smithw> pawitp: to see if there's a "default" one?
[10:50] <baudthief> Ok, I think i've backed up pretty much everything. I've been running Ubuntu Fesity (gnome) with Beryl + nvida drivers for a while, i'd like to try Kubuntu Fesity this time around. Can anyone recommend a tutorial in setting up Beryl on Kubuntu Fesity with NVidia drivers?
[10:50] <smithw> I have an idea... brb.
[10:50] <baudthief> (This is going to be a complete reinstall, having severe problems with video etc)
[10:52] <_4strO> baudthief: i think you will not having much problem
[10:52] <smithw> Ha! It worked. HorizSync was out of range.
[10:52] <Jucato> !beryl | baudthief
[10:53] <ubotu> baudthief: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[10:53] <smithw> Changing the range on xorg.conf solved it.
[10:53] <_4strO> the range ?
[10:53] <_4strO> of ?
[10:54] <smithw> HorizSync
[10:54] <_4strO> :)
[10:54] <_4strO> didn't see above :p
[10:54] <etokura> How can I mount my physical hard drive from within a virtual OS session?
[10:55] <smithw> _4strO: I just checked the comment generated by the modeline generator, and I had overlooked it used a horizsync of 59... Since I was also limiting it to 51 on xorg.conf, there was no way it could work :)
[10:55] <Admiral_Chicago> etokura: i don't think you can...
[10:55] <_4strO> smithw: yes of course, i didn't notice it
[10:55] <Admiral_Chicago> etokura: don't take my word for it, i don't playwith virtualization yet...
[10:55] <Jucato> g'night Admiral_Chicago!
[10:56] <pawitp> etokura: Mount a nfs drive should be possible
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> night Jucato . i should be back in
[10:56] <pawitp> etokura: or samba
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> ~ 6 hrs ...
[10:56] <etokura> Hmm
[10:56] <ablyss> etokura: i use samba
[10:56] <Jucato> heh :)
[10:56] <_4strO> 6 hours ... not very much :p
[10:56] <smithw> Well... That makes it Kubuntu Tools 0 x 2 CLI. Both wifi and video card required some CLI editing, rather than relying on the tools provided...
[10:57] <etokura> I'll try
[10:57] <ltb_emonkey> greets from the kubuntu-de.org team at the LinuxTag in Berlin: http://webcam.kubuntu-de.org/images/img_4963.jpg
[10:57] <baudthief> hope KDE gives the same warm fuzzy feeluing as Gnome ;\
[10:57] <baudthief> *feeling
[10:57] <MaTiAz> Fuzzy?
[10:58] <baudthief> gnomes are fuzzy
[10:58] <ablyss> lol
[10:58] <Jucato> woot ltb_emonkey!
[10:58] <hangthedj> kde is like gnome plus configuration options.
[10:58] <ablyss> you sure your talking about gnomes now, lol
[10:58] <baudthief> abys: come to think of it, no lol
[10:58] <baudthief> *ablyss
[10:59] <smithw> I've always been a KDE fan, since my first linux experience in 1999... But I have to admit, Gnome is getting kinda pretty. But like I'm never be confortable in emacs, I'm sticking with KDE.
[10:59] <astan_> hello folks. should xrandr "just work" on latest kubuntu? i have a laptop (intel graphics) capable of 1280x800, and i would like the display to resize to 1280x1024 when i plug in my external TFT.
[11:00] <astan_> is there any applet or something in KDE to control xrandr btw?
[11:00] <ablyss> i never heard of xrandr, sorry
[11:00] <astan_> the laptop is home atm, so i can't fiddle around, but i thought i'd ask here first.
[11:00] <david_> what is the first entry (#) in /etc/crontab
[11:00] <_4strO> astan_: did you look in : K / system settings / monitor & display
[11:00] <astan_> ablyss: okay. it's a X extension for resizing and scaling the resolution.
[11:00] <_4strO> or something like this
[11:01] <ablyss> david_: that's a hash sign #... your write comments after it
[11:01] <baudthief> smithw: Heh this is my first time completely switching to linux from windows, started with gnome - sorta got the hang of it, but i've got some irresolvable issues (possibly not gnome related) - but I hear of people that switched to a complete Kubuntu install and it solved their problems with video tearing etc (I know they're just desktop environments, but I dunno, maybe default config options are different)
[11:01] <ablyss> david_: safe to delete in *most* scripts
[11:01] <david_> In the other entries there are number for ex:
[11:01] <astan_> _4strO: ah. i haven't tried anything yet since the laptop is at home, just curious if people are using xrandr successfully with a similar setup (laptop + ext. tft).
[11:02] <_4strO> david_: the lines with a # in the beginning are comments
[11:02] <ablyss> david_: yep.. comments/examples
[11:02] <david_> ahh... sorry.... stupid question... thanks though. just clicked that the # is to rem out the m h dom mon dow user command.... How stupid... thanks for the help though.
[11:03] <smithw> baudthief: I don't quite get what you mean by "video tearing" (I'm not a native English speaker)... Do you mean video card problems or video playback issues?
[11:03] <ablyss> in scripts the hash sign denotes what scripting lanaguage should run the script... like #!/usr/bin/perl or #!/usr/bin/ruby or #!/bin/bash
[11:03] <ablyss> but just on the first line usually
[11:05] <smithw> Does anyone know if the kxdocker package issues have been worked out? Last time I tried installing it from the repositories, it just didn't work (c). I only got it running by compiling it (and I don't feel like doing that again right now)...
[11:06] <kain_> i am having wifi issues
[11:07] <pawitp> smithw: I don't use the kxdocker, try katapult(different thing)
[11:07] <kain_> on some networks my card connects on others it doesn't (mainly my gf's network) no WEP or anything
[11:07] <pawitp> smithw: Press alt+space and type a letter
[11:08] <pawitp> smithw: It does calculator as well
[11:08] <kain_> it seems to lag around 28% during the configuring device stage 1 and sometimes/rarely 57% Aquiring IP stage 2
[11:08] <smithw> pawitp: Does it have "task manager" function as well?
[11:08] <smithw> that was the killer feature for me to choose kxdocker...
[11:09] <thor> hello there all how are you doing to day
[11:09] <thor> who's the goto guy here in kubuntu
[11:09] <thor> I need some help
[11:09] <thor> :D
[11:10] <pawitp> smithw: Unfortunately it doesn't
[11:10] <smithw> and FYI, yes, kxdocker package still broken...
[11:10] <pawitp> smithw: file a bug report
[11:11] <smithw> pawitp: I don't think it would work... Last time, I checked the trac system (or is it bugzilla? don't remember right now) and there already was a bug report filed... Moderators said it was being "worked out", but look like there's been no improvement since then.
[11:12] <pawitp> smithw: It's the launchpad system
[11:13] <smithw> pawitp: and as far as I can tell, the one thing missing is the main configuration file... googleing it then returned pretty useless results. I guess I'll just mail the working one I have on my job to me and see if that works.
[11:13] <thor> help help help help help
[11:14] <smithw> *to myself
[11:14] <pawitp> smithw: I'll file a bug report and see
[11:14] <smithw> kxdocker: WARNING: Warning user, backup, system configurations are corrupt! please install right kxdocker_conf.xml
[11:14] <smithw> pawitp: it may help...
[11:15] <thor> this server is anoiing
[11:15] <smithw> Is there an equivalente of beagle/spotlight for KDE?
[11:15] <pawitp> smithw: It's there just empty
[11:15] <smithw> *equivalent
[11:16] <Jucato> smithw: there's kerry, which is a KDE frontend for Beagle
[11:16] <Jucato> there's also Strigi in development, but more for KDE 4
[11:16] <smithw> pawitp: yes... and empty doesn't help...
[11:16] <smithw> Jucato: thanks!
[11:18] <pawitp> smithw: I'm bumping some bug reports
[11:19] <smithw> pawitp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kxdocker/+bug/89747 <- this is the one I found last time, first result for googleing kxdocker_conf.xml... Is this the one you're bumping?
[11:21] <pawitp> smithw: I'll find the best one
[11:22] <smithw> pawitp: ok! thank you!
[11:23] <pawitp> smithw: Which is that one, it's a regression afaik
[11:23] <smithw> pawitp: a regression?
[11:24] <pawitp> It was fixed but now it doesn't work again
[11:25] <smithw> pawitp: ahhh... I can sympathize with that. People sometimes laugh at me when I say computers are living beings, but trust me, they are... :p
[11:27] <smithw> pawitp: there's one more problem to it... most of the plugins are missing...
[11:28] <pawitp> smithw: Better get it working first
[11:31] <smithw> pawitp: I found a config file from kxdocker developer site. And now it reports all of the plugins missing... I thought that should be installed by kxdocker-data or there should be a kxdocker-plugins package... But it seems the developer dropped kxdocker for a new project (xqde)
[11:31] <asfak> any help on how to create repo on local hard disk. i have large deb package from my laptop kubuntu /var/cache/apt and want to install them on other pc
[11:32] <smithw> and I officially give up...
[11:33] <asfak> smithw, was that my reply?
[11:33] <smithw> asfak: Nope... Unfortunately, I have absolutely no idea on how to set up a repository...
[11:40] <smithw> Installing Beryl on Kubuntu is just adding the repositories and apt-getting or is there something else to it?
[11:40] <Tm_T> !beryl
[11:40] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:41] <_4strO> smithw: if you have direct rendering on, think just adding beryl and emerald will be enough
[11:42] <hyuma> there is a button on kubuntu like "show desktop" on w$ ?
[11:42] <smithw> _4strO: yes, direct rendering is ok, so let's see if I can get it working!
[11:42] <Tm_T> hyuma: what icon is next of blue K-square in bottom left corner?
[11:43] <hyuma> Tm_T: system menu
[11:44] <Tm_T> hyuma: and next to it?
[11:44] <hyuma> konqueror --> kontact
[11:44] <hyuma> I haven't
[11:44] <Tm_T> I wonder, there should be "show desktop" icon right there
[11:45] <hyuma> dude I haven't
[11:45] <Tm_T> you haven't what?
[11:45] <hyuma> show desktop icon
[11:45] <Tm_T> ok, then rightclick panel and add it
[11:54] <hyuma> Tm_T: can't find this button
[11:54] <dregorth> hyuma: right click panel >>> panel menu >>> add applet to panel... >>> show desktop
[11:54] <hyuma> thank you dregorth
[11:55] <dregorth> np hyuma
[11:55] <dregorth> :)
[11:55] <hyuma> I've checked all config about tarball
[11:56] <dregorth> what's the prob?
[11:57] <teezett> has someone experiences to get RubyTk or RubyQt running?
[11:57] <dregorth> teezett: no sorry
[11:58] <teezett> i have tk and ruby, but a "require 'tk'" does not work in a ruby script
[11:58] <dregorth> mmm wish i could help ya :(
[11:58] <dregorth> never used ruby before
[12:00] <teezett> you should try, it's great
[12:02] <brendonjt> hey who uses keep here
[12:02] <dregorth> teezett: i just might have to sometime. right now i'm gonna start learning python :D
[12:02] <SunStealth> Hey, guys, do you know a good C++ compiler? Are there any that supports gui? Well, as long it is good, by other words is good by giving out information where things goes wrong and the the dubugger is good and the c++ compiler has good detailed man information about what you can do. New to programming in linux enviroment
[12:03] <teezett> ok, i skipped python - i walked from perl directly to ruby
[12:04] <smithw> Almost there. Aquamarine seems to be with some trouble...
[12:04] <teezett> SunStealth: in linux there are only the GNU and the intel compiler useful
[12:04] <Noiseconformist> morning! I'm running 7.04 with an Windoze-Domain. How can I print on one of printers on the windows server?
[12:04] <Jucato> SunStealth: GCC (The GNU Compiler Collection)
[12:04] <MaTiAz> GCC is simply awesome :)
[12:04] <Jucato> SunStealth: install build-essential to get it. you might want to install gdb too for debugging
[12:05] <dregorth> teezett: ahhh. this is going to be my first language that i'll actually be able to spend a lot of time on instead of just hardly taking the time to learn one :P
[12:05] <SunStealth> Alright peeps, installing right away
[12:05] <dregorth> teezett: or not being able to take the time to learn one for that matter hehe
[12:05] <teezett> dregorth: learning by using is the best way anyhow
[12:06] <MaTiAz> SunStealth: Kate is a good editor for coding, it also has the oh-so-lovely integrated terminal :)
[12:06] <teezett> SunStealth: for the GUI try Qt - is has a quite good object oriented interface
[12:07] <SunStealth> k
[12:07] <dregorth> teezett: definitely
[12:08] <SunStealth> Well, I am used to Visual Studio and have done object orientated programming for a few months, I hate Windows, so instable and it just drive u nuts, lol.
[12:08] <SunStealth> unstable*
[12:08] <MaTiAz> Windows (post-98) has always been stable for me :P
[12:09] <MaTiAz> Except when playing games with my broken Radeon 9600XT which gave me bluescreens - almost
[12:09] <teezett> sunstealth: then you will like Qt - its much more convenient than visual studio
[12:09] <SunStealth> Never, u always have to reformat once a month, the only stable windows u can run, is a virtual one in vmware
[12:09] <SunStealth> ok
[12:09] <SunStealth> ty
[12:10] <MaTiAz> SunStealth: uh, what are you doing to your computer if you can't have Windows working without reformatting once a month?
[12:10] <MaTiAz> TBH I've never formatted my XP partition after installing it in 2004 :P
[12:11] <SunStealth> No, lol. I am not saying that it isnt working, but the viruses these days, and that you basically let the windows do whatever it want without your permission is crazy
[12:11] <sercik> i need help with cool quiet on linux
[12:12] <MaTiAz> I'm perfectly fine with both, Linux and Windows :)
[12:12] <SunStealth> How do I install Qt teezett?
[12:13] <Tm_T> SunStealth: install what?
[12:15] <SunStealth> Qt - object orientated programming face (gui) want to try it out
[12:15] <SunStealth> have gcc installed and such, going to get acquainted with c++ oop in linux enviroment
[12:16] <teezett> sunstealth: i do not know the exactly package, just try "apt-cache search qt"
[12:16] <Tm_T> SunStealth: you mean you like to install Qt ?
[12:16] <SunStealth> Yes
[12:16] <SunStealth> But how
[12:16] <tahsin> can anyone tell me how to install AmarokFS ?
[12:16] <Tm_T> SunStealth: you are using it
[12:16] <SunStealth> Am I? k.
[12:17] <sercik> i need help with cool&quiet under linux
[12:17] <Tm_T> SunStealth: KDE uses Qt
[12:17] <SunStealth> How do I start it?
[12:17] <Tm_T> SunStealth: but, do something like "sudo apt-get build-dep kate" and you have base packages to build/code KDE/Qt apps
[12:17] <sercik> someone can help me?
[12:17] <tahsin> Tm_T: how do i install amarokFS ?
[12:18] <Tm_T> SunStealth: also, you might like to install kdevelop, nice environment
[12:18] <Tm_T> tahsin: no idea what that is
[12:18] <Tm_T> sercik: what is "cool&quiet" in this case?
[12:18] <tahsin> Tm_T: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Theme+for+AmarokFS+-+afterc0ffee?content=59018
[12:18] <SlimeyPete> Tm_T: it's the AMD version of SpeedStep iirc
[12:19] <Tm_T> ok, no idea about speedstep or any similar, sorry
[12:19] <sercik> is a tecnoogy to change voltage and multiplier on amd
[12:19] <SunStealth> Got kdevelop, always had problem to compile it... not familiar with makeinfo and such, anyone knows a good tutorial where I can start get familiar with c++ programing in lunux enviroment?
[12:19] <sercik> SlimeyPete: can you help me?
[12:19] <SunStealth> linux*
[12:19] <sercik> i have read about cpufreqd but i'm not able to configure it
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> sercik: not really, sorry. I know what cool&quiet is, but my laptop is an Intel, not an AMD.
[12:20] <njt88> hi guys.  i cant seem to find the eye candy in the install of feisty.... :s
[12:20] <sercik> and how can i see my cpu frequency under linux?
[12:20] <Tm_T> SunStealth: you don't have to compile kdevelop, just install it via package manager
[12:20] <njt88> sercik: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:20] <sercik> i need to manage multiplier and voltage under linux
[12:20] <SlimeyPete> sercik: the KDE battery monitor shows it... but that'll only show up if you're on a laptop
[12:20] <sercik> i'm on a desktop
[12:21] <Tm_T> tahsin: doesn't it tell in the page?
[12:21] <sercik> njt88: it not gives me multipliers and voltage
[12:21] <sercik> but only frequencies
[12:22] <tahsin> Tm_T: i'm a newbie so dont understant those
[12:22] <SlimeyPete> sercik: well, you can figure out the multiplier from the frequency.
[12:22] <sercik> SlimeyPete: ok but i need to manage multiplier
[12:22] <sercik> i need to scale my cou under linux
[12:22] <Tm_T> tahsin: ok, I'll try to help a bit
[12:22] <SlimeyPete> sercik: why, out of interest?
[12:22] <tahsin> Tm_T: thanks
[12:23] <sercik> SlimeyPete: to mantain my cpu cooler ahen it is not stressed
[12:23] <sercik> and because i overclock
[12:23] <SlimeyPete> fair enough.
[12:23] <sercik> and con't want to have my cpu always at maximum when i chat in konversation
[12:23] <sercik> understood :)
[12:23] <SlimeyPete> yup :)
[12:23] <Tm_T> tahsin: download this to your homedir http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0426379/amarokFS/amarokfs-qt3_0.4.2-1_i386.deb
[12:24] <sercik> so noone can help me?
[12:24] <Tm_T> tahsin: and then browse there with filemanager, rightclick and select kubuntu menu -> install package
[12:24] <Tm_T> tahsin: I think it should work that way
[12:24] <SlimeyPete> I'm not sure if it can be done, tbh. Linux isn't terribly popular as a main OS amongst the hardcore hardware-geek crowd.
[12:25] <SunStealth> I have used kdevelope before. Not sure how makeinfo and such works. Well, folks, I have to step away for a few hours, going to the university and present one of my c++ oop laboration execersise , then the big brake over the summer hs officially started. I be back later.
[12:25] <Tm_T> sercik: maybe you have better luck in #ubuntu
[12:25] <SlimeyPete> at least, not the subset that tend to do things like overclocking ;)
[12:25] <njt88> where do i find the desktop effects??
[12:25] <njt88> feisty
[12:25] <sercik> noone here have a athlon64??
[12:25] <Tm_T> njt88: you mean beryl?
[12:25] <Tm_T> sercik: not me atleast
[12:25] <sercik> sure!
[12:25] <njt88> yes sorry
[12:26] <Tm_T> !beryl | njt88
[12:26] <ubotu> njt88: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:26] <sercik> it seems that ubuntu documentation lacks of this problem
[12:26] <njt88> Tm_T: thx dude
[12:26] <Tm_T> sercik: hmm, so, if you find solution, mind to document it atleast that bit what you find out?
[12:29] <sercik> ok
[12:31] <tahsin> Tm_T: can i get a gnome like panel on top of the screen ok Kubuntu ?
[12:32] <Tm_T> tahsin: sure, you can have "any kind of" panels and to any edge of the screen
[12:32] <Tm_T> tahsin: rightclick panel and configure, or, if you like to add panel, select add panel :)
[12:32] <tahsin> Tm_T: how do i get the gnome like panel on top ?
[12:33] <dregorth> anyone here program in python?
[12:33] <Tm_T> dregorth: doing a poll?
[12:33] <dregorth> naw
[12:34] <Tm_T> then I won't answer
[12:34] <dregorth> wanted to know if there is a good program to develop python programs in (such as kdevelop or something like that)
[12:34] <dregorth> i want to find a well supported one but just not sure how to go about it besides google heh
[12:34] <Tm_T> dregorth: Kate, kdevelop, <yourfavouriteeditor>
[12:34] <dregorth> well ty for the response Tm_T
[12:34] <dregorth> :)
[12:35] <dregorth> had seen something called IDLE in add/remove programs so wasn't sure if that was even a good one or not
[12:35] <Tm_T> and no, I don't program in python, atleast not yet
[12:35] <tahsin> Tm_T: when i try to edit the new panel my old panel gets edited
[12:35] <dregorth> ahh alright
[12:35] <dregorth> i appreciate the response
[12:36] <Tm_T> dregorth: I just fiddle with c++ and stuff
[12:36] <dregorth> c++ is too scary for me right now lol
[12:36] <Tm_T> tahsin: ah, that evil, open konsole
[12:37] <tahsin> Tm_T: then
[12:37] <Jucato> tahsin: Alt+F2, "dcop kicker kicker restart" then try again
[12:38] <Tm_T> Jucato: bah
[12:38] <Jucato> Tm_T: too slow :)
[12:38] <Tm_T> I'm old )(
[12:40] <bianka> ahoj je tu niekto zo slovenska
[12:41] <davf> anyone know how to change the crontab timeout?
[12:41] <Tm_T> !sv
[12:41] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[12:41] <Tm_T> hmm, not that
[12:41] <Tm_T> !sk
[12:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <dregorth> Tm_T: thanks again for the advice. i installed kdevelop and hopefully that should be a very good one to use for python. goodnight/morning (3:45am here) :)
[12:57] <_4strO> !ntfs
[12:57] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:57] <_4strO> !ntfs-3g
[12:57] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:57] <hyuma> I'm using ntfs-3g if you needs
[12:58] <hyuma> works well
[12:58] <_4strO> yes works well at home too ;)
[01:06] <Ash-Fox> !truecrypt
[01:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about truecrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <Alarm> is there any html ide that i can use under debian ? well not something like bluefish, i dont want to handle with source html but to be able to drag and drop buttons, radio buttons and so on
[01:24] <ubuntu-help-need> hi guys anyone here have a chance to help me pls... urgently
[01:25] <_4strO> !ask | ubuntu-help-need
[01:25] <ubotu> ubuntu-help-need: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:25] <ubuntu-help-need> ok well here goes then
[01:28] <ubuntu-help-need> i have a fujitsu-siemens amilo L1310G laptop, i have a dual boot system, partition 1 is Vista Ultimate, second is Ubuntu 7.04
[01:28] <Alarm> vista ultimate ? sounds so... extreme to be true
[01:28] <ubuntu-help-need> ubutnu is a fresh install, but when u get in to ubuntu my fan stops working, and eventually my machine just shuts down cos CPU gets to hot
[01:29] <ubuntu-help-need> how do i activate the fan?
[01:29] <Alarm> fans shut down ? because of the os ? thats something i hear for the first time
[01:29] <Alarm> btw, how are u so sure that fans stop ?
[01:29] <ubuntu-help-need> and secondly i have an RF switch that i need software for in windows, how can i kill that function or activate it?
[01:29] <Maxdamantus> It'll be because of the power saving. :S
[01:29] <ubuntu-help-need> well my laptop gets incredibly hot
[01:30] <Alarm> Maxdamantus,  yeah but thats when its an inactive or standby modus , not when running
[01:30] <ubuntu-help-need> where as if i boot in vista my laptop stays icy cold
[01:30] <ubuntu-help-need> no when its runnin for example i'l be browsing internet
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> Alarm, it saves power while running too..
[01:30] <Maxdamantus> I noticed the first time I ran *Ubuntu
[01:30] <Alarm> saving power yes, but switching of the fans while running doesnt sound normal to me...
[01:31] <Maxdamantus> After BIOS, the HDDs and fan suddenly decreases in speed. :P
[01:31] <Alarm> ubuntu-help-need,  does it do that also when u dont boot in kde but stay under console also ?
[01:31] <Maxdamantus> The power saving comes into action on boot.
[01:31] <Maxdamantus> In an init script.
[01:31] <Alarm> well then he should deactivate it
[01:32] <ubuntu-help-need> i dont have the KDE i think... it goes straight from loader (grub1 i think it is) then i select the ubuntu option
[01:32] <Alarm> if it causes problem. letting the fan running doesnt take so much energy anyway. needs just 2-5watt
[01:32] <ubuntu-help-need> then in to gnome i think
[01:32] <Maxdamantus> Then that's GNOME.
[01:32] <Alarm> if u dont got kde then u dont got kubuntu ;)
[01:32] <ubuntu-help-need> oh ok
[01:32] <Maxdamantus> GNOME = Ubuntu
[01:32] <ubuntu-help-need> wats the difference?
[01:32] <Maxdamantus> KDE is better.
[01:33] <ubuntu-help-need> lol
[01:33] <Alarm> gnome/kde different window managers
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> Alarm, incorrect.
[01:33] <ubuntu-help-need> where do i get KDE from?
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> The Window manager in KDE is kwin
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> ubuntu-help-need, sudo apt-get install kde
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> Window manager in GNOME is metacity
[01:33] <ubuntu-help-need> from the terminal?
[01:33] <Alarm> ubuntu-help-need,  u get it while installing kubuntu , or install it manualy from the repository
[01:33] <Maxdamantus> Yes.
[01:33] <Alarm> Maxdamantus,  my mistake
[01:34] <Maxdamantus> Or you could use some graphical package manager if you really want.
[01:34] <Maxdamantus> But then if something goes wrong, it doesn't give as detailed an explanation.
[01:34] <Alarm> ubuntu-help-need,  sudo apt-get install kdm kde-base would do for u
[01:34] <ubuntu-help-need> when i run "sudo apt-get install kde" do i need to be online?
[01:34] <Maxdamantus> Yes, you do.
[01:34] <ubuntu-help-need> ok cool
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> It is far better to just get "kubuntu-desktop"
[01:34] <Maxdamantus> Or, you could download it manually first.
[01:35] <ubuntu-help-need> hang 10, will let u know what happens
[01:35] <Maxdamantus> And put it in /var/cache/pkgs or something
[01:35] <Alarm> why to do it manualy ?
[01:35] <Maxdamantus> /var/cache/apt/archives/ *
[01:35] <ubuntu-help-need> well i have to do it on my laptop, just rebooting
[01:35] <Maxdamantus> Because he said "Do I need to be online"
[01:35] <Alarm> /var/cache/apt/archives/ *
[01:36] <Maxdamantus> I thought they were implying that it was a problem
[01:36] <ubuntu-help-need> any ideas bout RF switch?
[01:36] <Alarm> well downloading it an putting it in the archive dir has to be also online :)
[01:36] <Maxdamantus> I'm the sort of person who wouldn't bother doing that thing with the fan the correct way.
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu-help-need: rf switch?the wireless switch?
[01:37] <Maxdamantus> I'd probably tape a battery to it.
[01:39] <ubuntu-help-need> yup
[01:41] <ubuntu-help-need> when i type "sudo apt-get install kdm kde-base" it comes back with an error "E: dpkg was interupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[01:42] <ubuntu-help-need> i run that command and it tells me i need super user privelage
[01:42] <BluesKaj> yes, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:43] <ubuntu-help-need> ok so wats the sudo for?
[01:43] <BluesKaj> super user
[01:43] <ubuntu-help-need> oh ok
[01:43] <ubuntu-help-need> sorry man, very new to all this
[01:43] <BluesKaj> super user do...I think :)
[01:44] <ubuntu-help-need> hehe
[01:44] <BluesKaj> yup, we all were once ...it's been 9mos for me ...still a reltive noob in many ways
[01:45] <ubuntu-help-need> Maxdamantus ok it says "Couldn't find package kde-base
[01:46] <ubuntu-help-need> ok nm i think
[01:51] <BluesKaj> ubuntu-help-need, sudo apt-get install kde-base
[01:52] <ubuntu-help-need> cant find package
[01:52] <BluesKaj> right
[01:52] <BluesKaj> ok, just kde
[01:53] <ubuntu-help-need> great its workin like a charm
[01:53] <BluesKaj> it'sll take a while if haven't run it
[01:53] <ubuntu-help-need> yeah like 5 min
[01:53] <M_Fatih> hi
[01:53] <M_Fatih> there some "kwin effects" videos in youtube, what is that? will kwin do this effects in kde4? effects seems like beryl's, is this compiz,xgl thing? or kde4's new feature?
[01:54] <BluesKaj> get a coffee or a cold beer or whatever meets your fancy ...it'll take a while
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> 5 minutes to get kde? ahh... what a dream.
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> thats for kde4
[01:54] <BluesKaj> !kde4
[01:54] <ubotu> For information on KDE 4 (not to be released for quite some time yet), see: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html. Also worth checking are: appeal/phonon/plasma/solid.kde.org
[01:55] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. that article written by troy Unrau was pretty interesting
[01:56] <baudthief> Wohoo! Kubuntu rocks! No more video tearing issues :D
[01:56] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: howdy!
[01:56] <sercik> i have issues with cool & quiet
[01:56] <BluesKaj> hi Tm_T :) ...what's up ?
[01:57] <Tm_T> pants up
[01:57] <Tm_T> baudthief: watch that language
[01:57] <baudthief> :(
[01:58] <BluesKaj> we're havin a heat wave here ...32C and 90% humidity ....we northern ontario ppl are getting more amd more of this terrible yukky weather
[02:00] <Tm_T> BluesKaj: aww, that sounds sweet, I mean sweat
[02:00] <BluesKaj> hehe
[02:01] <Tm_T> first was heavy rains, now it's clear, but quite cold, ~12
[02:01] <Tm_T> oh well, time for me to go ->
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: the humidity is what kils... got to 95 F here... but it wasn't really not
[02:02] <BluesKaj> strange that i can't have yuy2 layering and 3D on my graphics card simultaneously
[02:02] <nosrednaekim> yuy2?
[02:03] <BluesKaj> 95F is hot even without huumidity in my experience
[02:04] <ubuntu-help-need> hey man we are suffering with 20 C
[02:04] <BluesKaj> yes nosrednaekim , it's for tv veiwing ...the tv tuner sends the signal to the graphics card which is supposed to apply the yuy2 layering ...but don't ask me what that means :)
[02:05] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: ah.. ok... the humidity was like 25% so you couldn't even sweat if you wanted to (not that I did)
[02:05] <amigappc> hello ladys
[02:05] <amigappc> what can i do if i need help
[02:06] <BluesKaj> where you nosrednaekim, ubuntu-help-need ?
[02:06] <BluesKaj> where are
[02:06] <ubuntu-help-need> i are here
[02:06] <BluesKaj> which is?
[02:06] <ubuntu-help-need> sorry man, doing web development
[02:06] <nosrednaekim> New Jersey USA
[02:06] <ubuntu-help-need> ZA
[02:07] <BluesKaj> Northern Ontario (Lake Huron) shore ... Canada
[02:08] <amigappc|need|ad> let me cry in the channel ... does anyone have enough experience to teach a n00b ?
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: isn't it supposed to be COLD up there? ;)
[02:08] <nosrednaekim> amigappc|need|ad: whatcha wanna know?
[02:08] <BluesKaj> I'm a bit of a geography freak , hence i need my google earth
[02:09] <BluesKaj> don't beleive everything that your tv weather ppl tell you , nosrednaekim. :)
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: I don't watch TV weather... and I was JK.
[02:10] <toe007> Wei jemand, wie ich den Realplayer deinstalliere, der unter Feisty manuell aus der bin installiert wurde?
[02:10] <ubuntu-help-need> BluesKaj ok once kde is installed then?
[02:11] <toe007> Sorry, I meant: Does anyone know how to remove Realplayer. It was installed manually from the bin file.
[02:11] <BluesKaj> ok,now sudo 'apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' for good measure
[02:11] <ubuntu-help-need> k its busy
[02:12] <Jucato> !de | toe007
[02:12] <ubotu> toe007: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:13] <Dragnslcr> toe007- probably with rm
[02:13] <Dragnslcr> Of course with RealPlayer, I wouldn't be surprised if formatting the disk is the only way to be sure
[02:14] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg rm realplayer ?
[02:14] <Jucato> er no
[02:14] <toe007> Dragnslcr - Should I just "sudo rm" the /opt with Realplayer in it? Aren't there any file settings to be reseted?
[02:14] <Jucato> rm = delete file, not uninstall
[02:14] <BluesKaj> ok
[02:14] <Dragnslcr> Jucato- well, if it was installed manually, deleting the files is probably all you can do
[02:15] <Jucato> depends on the installer. some installers accept a --remove or --uninstall switch
[02:15] <Dragnslcr> Maybe I just have an old-fashioned definition of manually
[02:15] <BluesKaj> real player is an terrible app in that sense ...like spyware in linux
[02:15] <Dragnslcr> BluesKaj - s/in linux//
[02:15] <yeniklasor> :D
[02:15] <M_Fatih> hey, will gusty with kde4?
[02:16] <Jucato> no
[02:16] <M_Fatih> why :(
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> M_Fatih- maybe, but it'd be pretty close
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> Both are scheduled for October
[02:16] <M_Fatih> :(
[02:16] <Dragnslcr> I doubt KDE4 would be ready by the time 7.10 goes into final testing
[02:17] <toe007> I recall reading an interview with Jonathan Riddel (or so) stating KDE 4 will definitely not be in Gutsy
[02:17] <Jucato> M_Fatih: don't worry. we'll be releasing KDE 4 packages or maybe even CD's
[02:17] <Jucato> but as addons, not official releases
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> I wouldn't be surprised if they have a beta version in the repositories though
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> It just won't be the default
[02:17] <Jucato> Dragnslcr: we can't have a beta version in the repos....
[02:17] <yeniklasor> Why when I send some open windows to desktop2, windows are occur Desktop1 and Desktop2's tack manager :S Gnome is not like this :S
[02:17] <Jucato> because KDE 4 is still in Alpha :)
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> Isn't the alpha in there now?
[02:17] <toe007> I saw KDE 4 svn on Kubuntu yesterday at the LinuxTag in Berlin. :-)
[02:17] <M_Fatih> yes. too much like 3.5 series :)
[02:17] <Dragnslcr> Or was I hallucinating?
[02:18] <M_Fatih> no difference i think..
[02:18] <Jucato> Dragnslcr: alpha. not beta
[02:18] <ubuntu-help-need> BluesKaj selected KDM as default desktop manager
[02:18] <jarn> yeniklasor: It's a setting. I don't like it either.
[02:18] <M_Fatih> but there is too many features coming. i can't wait.. :)
[02:18] <jarn> yeniklasor: If you want to change it, do this:
[02:18] <M_Fatih> yeniklasor: naber? ::D
[02:18] <M_Fatih> bu nebicim nixk
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> Heh, yeah, I meant there would be a beta version when 7.10 is released
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> Not right now
[02:18] <yeniklasor> jarn : how ?
[02:18] <Dragnslcr> Might even be an RC when 7.10 is final
[02:18] <yeniklasor> M_Fatih : good and you :P
[02:19] <BluesKaj> ubuntu-help-need, yes
[02:19] <jarn> yeniklasor: Right-click on the task manager, choose Configure Panel, go to Taskbar, uncheck "Show windows from all desktops".
[02:19] <jarn> yeniklasor: If you mean what I think you do.
[02:19] <M_Fatih> yeniklasor: biraz daha garip yapsaydin nickini? :) "New Folder" kivaminda
[02:19] <yeniklasor> jarn : Thank you
[02:19] <BluesKaj> M_Fatih, what features for eg ?
[02:20] <yeniklasor> M_Fatih : Please speak English here :)
[02:20] <jarn> yeniklasor: Was that what you wanted to do?
[02:20] <M_Fatih> BluesKaj: don't you watch youtube, ./ or .kde?
[02:20] <yeniklasor> jarn: yes I wanted this thanks
[02:20] <ubuntu-help-need> BluesKaj ok thats done... now?
[02:20] <Dragnslcr> I just hope KDE4 has a global "remember window size and position" option
[02:21] <BluesKaj> relogin ubuntu-help-need, ctrl+alt+backspce
[02:21] <jarn> yeniklasor: Your welcome. :)
[02:21] <M_Fatih> i will be happy, if kde more clean and minimalised.
[02:21] <M_Fatih> oxygen looks very good for this..
[02:22] <M_Fatih> what is oxygen's license? can i use this icons in my site?
[02:22] <BluesKaj> not a youtube fan , i just visit the site to test the latest flash install :)
[02:22] <Dragnslcr> I can't even use YouTube
[02:22] <yeniklasor> What language this KDE desktop? C ?
[02:22] <yeniklasor> C++ ?
[02:23] <Dragnslcr> Stupid Adobe still not knowing how to work with amd64 processors
[02:23] <BluesKaj> there is some interesting stuff but there's alotta chaff too
[02:23] <Dragnslcr> yeniklasor- I would guess C++
[02:24] <Dragnslcr> Some of the apps might be in other languages like Perl or Python
[02:24] <yeniklasor> yeah thanks
[02:24] <BluesKaj> bummer Dragnslcr, Ihave a 64bit AMD , but I opted for the x86 version due to those probs
[02:24] <Jucato> yeniklasor: KDE <- Qt <- C++
[02:24] <pawitp> !paste
[02:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:25] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I just got a shiny AMD X2 just for my new box to install Kubuntu on, so I figured I'd grab the shiny amd64 version to go with it
[02:25] <pawitp> Can anyone help me with this?
[02:26] <Dragnslcr> And I've already loaded the system with all of the x86 libraries
[02:26] <pawitp> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23580/
[02:26] <BluesKaj> it's so shiny there aren't enuff up to date apps for it
[02:26] <Jucato> yeniklasor: but KDE is trying to encourage/push for creating apps using other languages. Our very own kde-guidance is one such example
[02:26] <pawitp> I'm once stupid enough to hand a friend an amd64 cd
[02:27] <BluesKaj> oops
[02:28] <Ash-Fox> Dragnslcr, seriously, unless you have more than 3GB ram, just stick with the 32bit version.
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> Ash-Fox- yeah, I learned that after I had already installed everything
[02:28] <pawitp> Dragnslr: or doing number intensive operation like encoding
[02:28] <Dragnslcr> And I don't feel like doing it all over again
[02:28] <pawitp> 64bit handles that well
[02:28] <Ash-Fox> pawitp, encoding is faster for me on 32bit.
[02:29] <ubuntu-help-need> ok kubuntu is up and runnin
[02:29] <ubuntu-help-need> now help with the RF switch or enabling my wireless
[02:29] <Ash-Fox> But then again, this is probably a issue from having a proccessor that isn't truely 64bit.
[02:30] <arty123> Help guys, in my kubuntu installation i am not having any file in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ and /proc/acpi/fan/, i have unloaded and reloaded acpi and fan modules, restarted acpi apm services. What should i do to know my cpu's temperature ?
[02:30] <pawitp> "proccessor that isn't truely 64bit" <-- what kind of processor is that?
[02:30] <BluesKaj> pawitp, trying to copy/burn media ?
[02:30] <hyuma> dma_timer_expiry <--- what's that on my dmesg log ?
[02:31] <pawitp> BluesKaj: yea
[02:31] <sercik> BluesKaj: Hi! can you help me with athlon64 voltages amd multiplier??
[02:32] <pawitp> sercik: I can
[02:32] <BluesKaj> sercik, no sorry ...
[02:32] <arty123> Can somebody help me too :) ?
[02:32] <JuJuBee> Are there any commands I can use to test ldap setup?  I just finished (i think) configuring a server and client.
[02:32] <sercik> pawitp: please!
[02:33] <sercik> i suspect that kernel don't support cpu scaling
[02:33] <pawitp> sercik: what's your problem?
[02:33] <pawitp> sercik: The kernel does
[02:33] <pawitp> modprobe powernow-k8
[02:33] <sercik> if i do cat /proc/cpuinfo i don't see anything about cpu scaling
[02:33] <sercik> i try!
[02:33] <sercik> now!
[02:33] <PhinnFort> sercik: try /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/
[02:33] <arty123> and i am not having any file in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ and /proc/acpi/fan/, i have unloaded and reloaded acpi and fan modules, restarted acpi apm services. What should i do to know my cpu's temperature ?
[02:34] <sercik> there are two subdirectories
[02:34] <PhinnFort>  /proc is deprecated, use /sys
[02:34] <pawitp> arty123: install lm-sensors and run "sensors"
[02:34] <arty123> it is installed
[02:34] <pawitp> run 'sensors' in terminal
[02:35] <pawitp> arty123: best idea to run 'sudo sensors-detect' first
[02:36] <arty123> thaaaaaaaaaaaanks , i get this "k8temp-pci-00c3" ,""Adapter: PCI adapter", "Core0 Temp: 32 C"
[02:36] <sercik> what can i do now?
[02:36] <PhinnFort> procrastinate?
[02:36] <pawitp> sercik: What are you trying to do?
[02:37] <sercik> i have launched module and now how can i control frequency and voltage?
[02:37] <sercik> i want to verify that it works
[02:37] <PhinnFort> sercik: "echo "frequency" >> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq"
[02:38] <PhinnFort> maybe sudo that
[02:38] <pawitp> controlling voltage would require cpupw
[02:38] <PhinnFort> sudo echo etc
[02:38] <pawitp> sercik: cpupw is not in the repository
[02:39] <pawitp> sercik: so don't mess with it if you're not confident
[02:40] <pawitp> But with cpupw, I'm running a pretty cold system
[02:40] <sercik> pawitp: please tell me how can i see my running frequencies
[02:40] <PhinnFort> well, I have an athlon 64 processor, and the kernel clocks it automagically with the ondemand governor
[02:41] <pawitp> sercik: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:41] <PhinnFort> sercik: more /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies
[02:41] <sercik> it tells 2200.000
[02:41] <pawitp> PhinnFort: undervolting Athlon64 processor is very easy
[02:41] <sercik> but this is the maximum
[02:41] <pawitp> sercik: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:41] <PhinnFort> sercik: what pawitp told you only tells you the current frequency
[02:41] <sercik> it seems that scaling is not working!
[02:42] <PhinnFort> sercik: what does more /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies tell you?
[02:42] <pawitp> didn't "running frequencies" mean "current frequiency"
[02:42] <sercik> i need to read that file?
[02:42] <PhinnFort> sercik: it's not a normal file
[02:42] <sercik> i need to use cat
[02:42] <sercik> ??
[02:42] <PhinnFort> sercik: just run that command, and it will tell you the frequencies
[02:42] <sercik> ok sorry!
[02:42] <PhinnFort> sercik: cat, less, more, whatever tickles your funny;)
[02:43] <sercik> ok sorry
[02:43] <PhinnFort> no reason to sorry
[02:43] <sercik> but if you tell me to run?? i don't understand!
[02:43] <PhinnFort> :P
[02:43] <sercik> 2200000 2000000 1800000 1000000
[02:43] <sercik> ~
[02:43] <sercik> this is the content
[02:43] <sercik> without ~
[02:44] <PhinnFort> sercik: thats the frequencies the kernel can switch between
[02:44] <PhinnFort> sercik: now run "more /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor"
[02:44] <PhinnFort> sercik: that tells us which governor the kernel uses to set the frequency
[02:44] <PhinnFort> I have these governors available, and I guess you have the same: userspace conservative ondemand powersave performance
[02:45] <sercik> it says performance
[02:45] <ubuntu-help-need> BluesKaj - it looks exactly the same as before
[02:45] <pawitp> sercik: That's mean it's always maximum
[02:45] <sercik> ok i begin to understand :) thanks!!
[02:45] <pawitp> echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[02:45] <PhinnFort> sercik: userspace makes you able to set it yourself through other programs, conservative is a worse version of ondemand, ondemand clocks it up and down automatically according to load, powersave always has it as low as possible and performance always as high as possible
[02:46] <freddi>  hallo ich hab mal kurz ne frage: Wei jemand nen konsolen befehl mit dem ich nachgucken kann was fr arbeitsspeicher ich habe...
[02:46] <PhinnFort> sudo echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[02:46] <sercik> PhinnFort: i love you thank you very muvh!
[02:46] <PhinnFort> sudo echo "ondemand" >> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[02:46] <PhinnFort> sercik: yw;)
[02:46] <sercik> so i need to write only one! or all of this possibilities
[02:46] <sercik> ?
[02:46] <PhinnFort> sercik: I use ondemand
[02:46] <pawitp> PhinnFort: That won't work
[02:47] <pawitp> that's sudoing echo and writing as the user
[02:47] <PhinnFort> meh
[02:47] <sercik> i can i use userspace and ondemad together?
[02:47] <pawitp> sercik: nope
[02:47] <sercik> so i need to choose only one?
[02:47] <pawitp> sercik: yes
[02:47] <sercik> ok now i write ondemand on that file
[02:47] <PhinnFort> yes
[02:48] <pawitp> sercik: userspace means that a programs control the value and not the kernel
[02:48] <sercik> it tells permesso negato!
[02:48] <pawitp> 'sudo -i' first
[02:48] <BluesKaj> ubuntu-help-need, that's a good thing :)
 that's sudoing echo and writing as the user
[02:49] <sercik> permission denied
[02:49] <sercik> i have used sudo
[02:49] <PhinnFort> sercik: run "sudo -s"
[02:49] <PhinnFort> sercik: then run "echo "ondemand" >> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor"
[02:49] <sercik> ok i try
[02:50] <sercik> i can't change that files
[02:50] <PhinnFort> sercik: even after sudo -s?
[02:50] <sercik> try to remove module from memory
[02:50] <sercik> ??
[02:50] <sercik> yes
[02:50] <sercik> also with root permissions
[02:50] <PhinnFort> sercik: did the command prompt change to a #
[02:50] <PhinnFort> ?
[02:51] <PhinnFort> sercik: can you run "dmesg | tail"?
[02:51] <sercik> PhinnFort: trust me i understand root and sudo
[02:51] <PhinnFort> ok;)
[02:52] <sercik> http://pastebin.ca/527812
[02:52] <sercik> tis is the output
[02:53] <PhinnFort> hmm, looks normal
[02:53] <pawitp> sercik: can you paste your terminal session as well?
[02:53] <sercik> i think that is needed to remove some process from memory and then try to edit that files??
[02:53] <PhinnFort> sercik: you could do kdesu kate /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" and replace the content with "ondemand" and save?
[02:53] <PhinnFort> yeah, do "lsof  /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" too
[02:53] <sercik> PhinnFort: i have already tried with vi
[02:54] <sercik> vim
[02:54] <sercik> http://pastebin.ca/527818
[02:56] <sercik> this is the error of vi when i try to write: http://pastebin.ca/527820
[02:56] <pawitp> what language is that?
[02:57] <sercik> italliano
[02:57] <pawitp> what's the error to:cat "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[02:57] <sercik> italian
[02:57] <sercik> bash: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor: Permesso negato
[02:58] <sercik> permesso negato =permission denied
[02:58] <pawitp> I mean, sudo -i first
[02:58] <nuu> !it | sercik
[02:58] <ubotu> sercik: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:58] <pawitp> run:sudo -i
[02:58] <pawitp> run"cat "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[02:58] <sercik> i can't!!
[02:59] <pawitp> what's the error?
[02:59] <sercik> it tells FSynd failed
[02:59] <nuu> pawitp: sudo echo "ondemand" > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[02:59] <sercik> it seems that the file is in use when i try to write on it
[02:59] <sercik> it seems that another process write or access to that files
[03:00] <sercik> also if i'm root
[03:00] <pawitp> nuu: You don't seem to understand that the command you posted doesn't you
[03:00] <nuu> pawitp: i'm sorry ?
[03:01] <sercik> pawitp: i understand
[03:01] <sercik> do you want to try you with ssh
[03:01] <sercik> ??
[03:01] <sercik> i can give you my ip!
[03:02] <sercik> no you can't!! i have  a router!
[03:02] <sercik> now i need to help my cousin to do a website we speak later!
[03:02] <sercik> thank you very muvh and goodbye
[03:05] <ubuntu-help-need> anyone here know kubuntu very well??
[03:05] <MinceR> what's the most reliable repo to get qtcurve from?
[03:15] <yeniklasor> ! anyone
[03:15] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:18] <frank__> how about kplato?
[03:29] <Dekkard> wow
[03:30] <goban> whats a fast dvd ripping program?
[03:30] <SlimeyPete> dvd::rip can be fairly quick
[03:31] <tdn> I have a Thinkpad T42 with an ATI Mobility Radeon 9600. How do I make it perform better? The default free drivers are too slow. lspci says: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 
[03:31] <SlimeyPete> install the fglrx drivers via adept/synaptic
[03:32] <tdn> SlimeyPete, how? I cannot find info on this in the wiki.
[03:32] <CyD> goban, k3b, tovid, acidrip, dvd::rip
[03:33] <SlimeyPete> tdn: just open up Adept/Synaptic, and install the fglrx packages
[03:33] <Dekkard> is there a quick wat to switch from gdm to kdm?
[03:33] <Dekkard> way
[03:33] <ubuntu-help-need> does anyone here have a FUJITSU-SIEMENS AMILO L1310G notebook, runnin kubuntu?
[03:33] <tdn> SlimeyPete, if I search in adept for fglrx, I get several packages. I do not know which ones to install.
[03:34] <Alarm> ubuntu-help-need,  still having the problem , couldnt get any help ?
[03:34] <ubuntu-help-need> nope
[03:34] <ubuntu-help-need> i need to enable my wireless man and damn am i struggling
[03:35] <SlimeyPete> tdn: you want xorg-driver-fglrx I think
[03:35] <ubuntu-help-need> under windows i need to install something called power manager which enables the RF button
[03:35] <tdn> How do I enable multiple instances of kate? When I do Alt+F2 > kate, it does not start a new kate, if there is already one started.
[03:35] <tdn> SlimeyPete, ok.
[03:35] <CyD> ubuntu-help-need, maybe lspci will identify your wireless card more specifically
[03:36] <ubuntu-help-need> its not the card, that has installed properly, its the button that wont switch it on
[03:36] <ubuntu-help-need> u know like those quick buttons, that u press to open a browser/email prog etc
[03:37] <CyD> yes i know
[03:41] <tdn> How do I make a script start every time I log in to KDE?
[03:44] <andersin> can someone tell me if kubuntu catches the XF86AudioMute button somewhere? I use kmix to control volume and XF86AudioRaiseVolume and XF86AudioLowerVolume work fine. XF86AudioMute I can set as a shortcut, but it does not do anything
[03:52] <andersin> tdn: Place it in your Autostart path (likely $HOME/.kde/Autostart/)
[03:52] <andersin> tdn: you can find the path setting in the "About Me" section in the System Settings
[03:53] <Heart|> after a standard 7.04 kubuntu installation.... is there "on demand" write access to ntfs partitions?
[03:56] <Andrew123> hey
[03:56] <baudthief> I've mounted a few SMB shares into /media/blah - is there any way to rename the icon / launcher that appears on the desktop?
[03:57] <baudthief> or should I mount them in a 'real' directory and create manually a launcher
[03:58] <BluesKaj> yes Heart|, install ntfs-3g and if you wish further options ntfs-config
[03:59] <Heart|> thx
[04:00] <tdn> andersin, ok. Can I place a symlink to the script in stead of the actual script?
[04:00] <andersin> tdn: not sure, never did this myself, but it should work
[04:00] <ahmed> guys wat is the best torrents downloading program ?
[04:00] <BluesKaj> ktorrent
[04:01] <ahmed> guys wat is the best torrents downloading program ?
[04:02] <ahmed> other than ktorrent cause its downloading very slow
[04:02] <ahmed> i tried the same torrent with ktorrent and another one k torrent was the slowest
[04:03] <baudthief> ahmed: ktorrent rocks
[04:03] <baudthief> I get ~400KB/sec here
[04:03] <BluesKaj> the speed of your download isn't determined by the torrent client if all the ports are setup properly. The source and internet congestion does.
[04:04] <baudthief> probably needs to do port forwarding
[04:04] <baudthief> ahmed: Zaboor :p
[04:05] <BluesKaj> yup, if behind a router for sure , otherwise it's usually automatic.
[04:06] <tdn> andersin, it works. :)
[04:14] <baudthief> oh man, the sound quality in my new kubuntu install is terrible :(
[04:15] <baudthief> reinstalling with kde fixed all the video issues, but now sound is crap
[04:15] <pawitp> sound quality?
[04:15] <baudthief> as in, quality of sound playback :p
[04:15] <baudthief> audio even
[04:16] <pawitp> never heard about working sound with bad quality
[04:17] <pawitp> And I can't remember the last time I have broken sound
[04:17] <dr_willis> Me either. Audigy 2zs works good here.
[04:20] <baudthief> using alsa?
[04:20] <baudthief> got an audigy2 also - tone controls just seem crap
[04:20] <dr_willis> using the default ubuntu/kubuntu stuff
[04:20] <dr_willis> never noticed.
[04:20] <dr_willis> never had to adjust it
[04:20] <pawitp> My ear is never good enough to distinquish onboard sound from good sound card
[04:21] <baudthief> You have an audio system hooked up?
[04:22] <pawitp> I tried hooking a good system up and I don't think I can tell a difference in daily audio (not movies, which I use my DVD player)
[04:23] <baudthief> got it! was set to 8BIT!
[04:24] <allan123> im using fiesty and i installed the openoffice package but how do i start openoffice.org-draw? there is no icon under office and apt says that it is installed...
[04:25] <Jucato> allan123: it's not in K Menu -> Graphics?
[04:25] <Jucato> if it isn't, you might have to launch it from thecommand line
[04:25] <Lunar_Lamp> How can I minimise thunderbird to my tray?
[04:26] <benjamin_hr> just klick on the tray icon
[04:26] <Jucato> it has no tray icon :)
[04:26] <benjamin_hr> click ;)
[04:26] <benjamin_hr> hmm my default installation has one :)
[04:26] <Lunar_Lamp> Mine doesn't.
[04:26] <Jucato> thunderbird? O.o
[04:26] <allan123> Jucato, no it isnt there...
[04:26] <Jucato> allan123: the executable name is "oodraw" btw
[04:26] <hyuma_> there is a program to rec the animation of beryl of my desktop?
[04:26] <allan123> Jucato tnx :)
[04:26] <Lunar_Lamp> benjamin_hr, you must have some add-on or "minimise any program" program installed...
[04:27] <benjamin_hr> nope
[04:27] <benjamin_hr> nothing
[04:27] <dr_willis> pawitp,  in games is about the only diff i can tell - a good speaker set helps however.
[04:27] <benjamin_hr> just installed feisty like a week ago, than installed berly etc and firefox, tbird thats it
[04:27] <benjamin_hr> beryl
[04:27] <benjamin_hr> it sits right between my battery control and beryl manager
[04:29] <benjamin_hr> hmm
[04:29] <baudthief> bbl
[04:29] <nigra> hi all, which package generates video thumbnails in konqueror, i installed kde-core and now installing what i need
[04:29] <benjamin_hr> but a right click just gives me "hide window" and "hide" this wouldnt seem like the real tbird context menu
[04:29] <Jucato> !mp3
[04:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:30] <Jucato> nigra: follow the RestrictedFormats page. it has instructions for that
[04:31] <ahmed> how to set the default mp3 player to be amorak ?
[04:32] <ahmed> how to set the default mp3 player to be amorak ?
[04:33] <Jucato> ahmed: in Konqueror -> Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations
[04:39] <titanix88> hendaus_:
[04:39] <nosrednaekim> if I have a dependency that I DO NOT want to DL, and the package that depends on it, does not break.. can I tell apt never to DL the dependency? how?
[04:40] <hyuma_> guys how can I capture what in my desktop happens?=
[04:40] <hyuma_> I'd like to record beryl effects
[04:42] <phpcode> can i play dvd(img/ios) movies on linux kubuntu? how?  (something like deamontool to windows)
[04:42] <titanix88> hyuma_:install istanbul.
[04:43] <titanix88> phpcode: ofcourse u can. !ubotu|dvd
[04:43] <dr_willis> phpcode,  just rip the dvd to the hard drive
[04:43] <dr_willis> no need for fancy gimicky things like deamontools
[04:43] <titanix88> phpcode: !dvd|phpcode
[04:43] <phpcode> !dvd|phpcode ??
[04:43] <dr_willis> not sure what img/ios files are however. :)
[04:43] <ubotu> phpcode ??: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[04:43] <nigra> phpcode: vlc player plays dvd images
[04:44] <nigra> i had tried once
[04:46] <BluesKaj> phpcode,  if you want more options with .iso and other image files checkout Acetoneiso
[04:47] <BluesKaj> !iso
[04:47] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[04:48] <phpcode> ok. thanks: titanix88, BluesKaj, nigra ....
[04:48] <phpcode> :-)
[04:49] <BluesKaj> interesting that Asetoneiso isn't mentioned on the above site
[04:49] <titanix88> phpcode: always welcome :)
[04:49] <BluesKaj> phpcode, np :)
[04:50] <nigra> i want konqueror to generate thumbnails for video files, if i install kdemultimedia package, it does but it is a metapackage which installs many others, does anyone know which particular package enables konqi to make thumbnails?
[04:51] <nigra> i do not want to install noatun,juk or any other dependencies of kdemultimedia meta package
[04:51] <Jucato> nigra: I pointed you to the page wiki page already
[04:51] <nigra> Jucato: i could not fin there
[04:51] <nigra> maybe i missed, will look ar again
[04:53] <titanix88> nigra: u r right. why we still need those when have amarok?
[04:53] <Jucato> nigra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/MP3 Video thumbnails in Konqueror -- install libarts1-xine. You can turn this functionality on and off through Konqueror's menu View->Preview->Video files.
[04:54] <nigra> Jucato: thanks much i dont know how i missed it :)
[04:54] <smithw> How can I "install suid" a binary file? (and what does exactly this mean...)
[05:03] <dr_willis> you 'chmod +s' it.
[05:03] <dr_willis> and thats considered a big security hole. :)
[05:04] <dr_willis> oh well no patience.
[05:12] <darkha7> I have two problems right now (recently started, possibly after an update).
[05:12] <darkha7> Power manager crashes
[05:13] <darkha7> and I lose all of the icons
[05:13] <darkha7> any help here?  None on the forums despite people posting for help there
[05:16] <dr_willis> all the icons where?
[05:16] <trakinas> hey there
[05:16] <trakinas> which lines in my arch config file should I comment to disable scsi emulation for my dvd drive?
[05:17] <darkha7> all the desktop icons are missing
[05:17] <darkha7> as well as the mounted devices
[05:17] <darkha7> (as seen from the desktop)
[05:17] <dr_willis> I thought scsi emulation wasent needed any more and was disabled by default.
[05:18] <trakinas> dr_willis: me too!
[05:18] <trakinas> but you know! ubuntu is debian...
[05:18] <dr_willis> darkha7,  thats a window m anager setting..    i forget where however.
[05:18] <darkha7> hmmm
[05:18] <trakinas> Im impressed that this isnt kde 2.5!
[05:18] <trakinas> :P
[05:18] <dr_willis> Ubuntu is based on debian. :) its slowly but surely branching off and getting farther away..
[05:18] <trakinas> jk...
[05:18] <dr_willis> in another 2 years..  it will be even more seperated i am betting.
[05:19] <dr_willis> i rember when redhat/mandrake (or whatever it was) originally split
[05:19] <dr_willis> i am old. :)
[05:19] <trakinas> dr_willis: my only compains till now are the damn scsi emulation and some icon text being wrongly displayed
[05:19] <trakinas> dr_willis: wow!!
[05:19] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: you crazy old fool, how did you get out?
[05:19] <PhinnFort> :P
[05:20] <dr_willis> trakinas,   Im not sure what you are refering to with this scsi emulation stuff.
[05:20] <dr_willis> trakinas,  the next 'trend' is a rewrite of the ATA systems that will make all drives show up as scsi devices .
[05:20] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: the worst thing is that RPM is almost exactly the same implementation today;)
[05:21] <trakinas> dr_willis: /dev/sda4
[05:21] <trakinas> and etc...
[05:21] <trakinas> on gentoo they are all /dev/hda, /hdc/ and /hdd...
[05:21] <dr_willis> trakinas,  Huh? a cd/dvd disk shouldent be /dev/sda#  (just /dev/sda)
[05:22] <trakinas> it isnt a disk. it is only an example. :P
[05:22] <dr_willis> trakinas,  you are stumbling upon that changes to the IDE system thats vomming.
[05:22] <dr_willis> comming.
[05:22] <dr_willis> what ubuntu did you install?
[05:22] <trakinas> kubuntu feisty faw
[05:22] <dr_willis> I thought they changed that back to 'normal' befor they released it.
[05:22] <dr_willis> you used a beta of it? or the final release?
[05:23] <trakinas> guess the final one.
[05:23] <trakinas> how do i check?
[05:23] <dr_willis> I paied attention to what i downloaded. :)
[05:23] <dr_willis> not sure of the real way.
[05:24] <trakinas> dr_willis: /dev/scd0 this is the dvd drive.
[05:24] <PhinnFort>  /etc/lsb-release ?
[05:24] <trakinas> PhinnFort: lemme try
[05:24] <dr_willis> http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=149316 discusses the changes to make hda become sda and so on.
[05:25] <dr_willis> on my feisty kubuntu install - the hard drives are hda hdb and so on. same as always. I recall on an earlier beta - they used the sda sdb names.
[05:25] <titanix88> hello everyone :)
[05:25] <trakinas> PhinnFort guess is not beta
[05:25] <trakinas> titanix88: hello there
[05:26] <trakinas> dr_willis: oh dear! lemme read the link then...
[05:26] <titanix88> trakinas: :)
[05:27] <dr_willis> trakinas,  in short - its proberly best to get used to the sda stuff.. Not sure why your system is doing it that way.
[05:27] <dr_willis> the artical imples it may be dependiong on your chipset.
[05:27] <titanix88> dr_willis:sda/b for SATA usually & hda/b for PATA as far as i know.
[05:27] <c1|freaky> hda hdb etc. are IDE drives, sda sdb are S-ATA drives
[05:27] <titanix88> dr_willis: in my system.
[05:28] <dr_willis> titanix88,  but thats whats getting changed. :) from what i read.. in the next releases  - the hda/hdb stuff will become sd## as well
[05:28] <dr_willis> i had a mixed system. all the drives where SD##
[05:28] <dr_willis> but then the final release of kubuntu changed it back to c1|freaky 's way.
[05:29] <titanix88> dr_willis:well, who knows!!
[05:29] <Ares|Work> hello, if you put proxy details in kconsole, will apt-get use them?
[05:29] <Ares|Work> or is it that root has it's own connections settings?
[05:29] <Ares|Work> or something else?
[05:30] <dr_willis> titanix88,  its one of those FUNdamental changes comming soon!
[05:30] <dr_willis> the apt configs has their own place for proxy settings i thoiught
[05:30] <dr_willis> bbl
[05:32] <eean> I have a laptop with intel graphics. I have a monitor connected to its CRT port. How do I set it up?
[05:32] <trakinas> dr_willis: the problem is Im getting read errors on kubuntu and on gentoo it was okay (and mounted as hdd..). here is an dmesg out put: http://pastebin.ca/528428 (for any disk))
[05:32] <cntb> did anyone here learn how to mess with bcdedit in new bootmgr of vista in dual boot scenario with kubuntu?
[05:32] <eean> I'm used to having nvidia stuff, so I don't really know where to start.
[05:33] <titanix88> dr_willis: btw when i plug some other frnds harddisk in my kubuntu i always have to make some directory in /media put them in plugdev group & edit xorg.conf to get automount. I would appreciate if they  automate harddisk auto mounting.
[05:33] <cntb> I used an conveninet solution booting kubuntu from boot.ini line pointing to grub installed on root/boot partition of kubuntu
[05:33] <titanix88> sorry not xorg.conf but fstab :)
[05:33] <PhinnFort> !intel
[05:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:34] <cntb> now I have to deal with vista boot and need to install legacy boot.ini for  my solution to boot kubuntu to work lik eit did
[05:34] <cntb> !vista
[05:34] <ubotu> vista is the new operating system by the evil overlords from Redmond. For more information, see http://www.badvista.org
[05:34] <titanix88> dr_willis: btw when i plug some other frnds harddisk in my kubuntu i always have to make some directory in /media put them in plugdev group & edit fstab to get automount. I would appreciate if they  automate harddisk auto mounting.
[05:35] <cntb> titanix88, so right
[05:35] <c1|freaky> titanix88: that would require scanning hardware on every boot up
[05:35] <cntb> titanix88, me too having problem with it
[05:35] <c1|freaky> which slows down the boot up process
[05:35] <titanix88> c1|freaky|:why not? i heard new versions of xorg do that.
[05:36] <cntb> nope c1|freaky that would require an script to loosen  a bit security
[05:36] <PhinnFort> !dualboot
[05:36] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[05:36] <trakinas> dr_willis: i just know i can use my drive in my mate's windows... so i guess it isnt screwed. i will install gentoo in another partition tomorrow in anyways, but id like it to work on gentoo.
[05:36] <c1|freaky> hm, ok
[05:36] <trakinas> ops, kubuntu
[05:36] <cntb> because not automatically mounting usb s is a security issue
[05:36] <cntb> PhinnFort, ?
[05:36] <phpcode> how to disable the sound when i get a msg on Kopete?
[05:37] <titanix88> c1|freaky, cntb: they could ask root passwd.
[05:37] <cntb> answer must be inside kopete my friend
[05:37] <trakinas> phpcode: in config dialog. alerts. disable any.
[05:37] <titanix88> phpcode: settings->configure notifications
[05:38] <cntb> file a big to kde titanix88  I guess
[05:38] <cntb> big > bug
[05:38] <trakinas> anyone? http://pastebin.ca/528428
[05:38] <Ares|Work> hello, if you put proxy details in kconsole, will apt-get use them?
[05:38] <Ares|Work> or is it that root has it's own connections settings?
[05:38] <Ares|Work> or something else?
[05:39] <titanix88> cntb: at least they could give us a tool to do that as root.
[05:39] <Brandon420^> Hi. Im a first time ubuntu user. never used linux before neither. im having sound issues(no sound at all.) If someone could help me it would be greatly appricated.
[05:40] <trakinas> Ares!Work: creates a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ called 02proxy
[05:40] <titanix88> Brandon420^: from yesterday?
[05:41] <trakinas> Ares|Work: http://pastebin.ca/528446 (an exemple)
[05:41] <Brandon420^> titanix88: yes sir. :(
[05:42] <titanix88> !sounds
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sounds - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <titanix88> !sound
[05:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:42] <trakinas> the number in front of the file name is just to order it. since we want it to be on top, we name it that way
[05:43] <titanix88> Brandon420^: try what the bot said.
[05:43] <Brandon420^> titanix88:  ok im gunna check it out.
[05:43] <phpcode> titanix88, thanks :-)
[05:43] <trakinas> porta = proxy. usuario=user senha=password
[05:43] <foodcoman> Morning.
[05:43] <trakinas> ops, porta = port
[05:44] <trakinas> foodcoman: noon!
[05:44] <titanix88> phpcode: np :)
[05:44] <hnaik> Hello people ... I have a Dell E1405 with Intel 945GM
[05:44] <foodcoman> That Riddell sure does a good job.
[05:44] <hnaik> cant get Beryl to work on it
[05:44] <foodcoman> trakinas: =)
[05:44] <Ares|Work> trakinas: it has to have that exact name?
[05:45] <Ares|Work> trakinas: 02proxy?
[05:45] <titanix88> !beryl
[05:45] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:45] <trakinas> everytime I put the output of what is happening with my dvd device, i get ignored. i think that msgs are driving people crazy and the cant type anymore. :(
[05:45] <foodcoman> Anyone seeing issues with knetworkmanager and DHCP with Wireless?
[05:45] <titanix88> trakinas: try me.
[05:46] <trakinas> Ares|Work: not exactly, but it should be on top.
[05:46] <trakinas> titanix88:  http://pastebin.ca/528428
[05:46] <PhinnFort> trakinas: your dvd drive is b0rked?
[05:47] <trakinas> PhinnFort: no. it works on gentoo and windows
[05:47] <PhinnFort> trakinas: what kernel on gentoo?
[05:47] <trakinas> 2.6.16, if Im not wrong.
[05:48] <trakinas> let me check. one sec
[05:48] <titanix88> trakinas: when do u get that?
[05:48] <trakinas> 2.6.17-r8
[05:49] <trakinas> titanix88: that - the error, kubuntu, gentoo or the drive?
[05:49] <PhinnFort> trakinas: and 2.6.20-16-generic on ubuntu?
[05:49] <trakinas> PhinnFort: guess so. tried version, kernel version but nothing happens... :(
[05:49] <trakinas> he!
[05:49] <titanix88> PhinnFort: depens on ubuntu version.
[05:49] <PhinnFort> uname -a
[05:50] <trakinas> thanks!
[05:50] <titanix88> trakinas: the error
[05:50] <trakinas> 2.6.20-16-generi
[05:50] <PhinnFort> IDE drive?
[05:50] <trakinas> titanix88: since thuesday. 3 days after installing kubuntu.
[05:50] <trakinas> PhinnFort: sure!
[05:50] <PhinnFort> I think the IDE stack got a major upgrade recently
[05:50] <PhinnFort> so it really sounds like a kernel problem
[05:51] <PhinnFort> trakinas: have you filed a bug?
[05:51] <titanix88> trakinas: i mean doing what invokes the error?
[05:51] <PhinnFort> (he tries to power up his computer with a ide cdrom, according to what I can see)
[05:52] <PhinnFort> trakinas: I would also double check my ribbon cable
[05:52] <waspius> hi..does anyone know if i can use on debian the package that beryl has in which windows explode etc?
[05:53] <hak5fan> Hi.... Why can't I open beryl settings manager. All Required packages should be installed. I'm on yoper right now, but the yoper irc channel isn't very active and this problem has been mentioned on the ubuntuforums too. Here's the error message I get when exectuing beryl-settingsin konsole http://pastebin.ca/528462
[05:53] <PhinnFort> waspius: #ubuntu-effects
[05:53] <PhinnFort> hak5fan:  #ubuntu-effects
[05:53] <PhinnFort> hak5fan: it doesn't recognise your image
[05:54] <PhinnFort> hak5fan: try installing kubuntu;)
[05:54] <waspius> PhinnFort: that mean what exactly?that it can work only on ubuntu?
[05:54] <PhinnFort> waspius: it means that beryl is veeery unstable, and shouldn't be used imho
[05:54] <PhinnFort> so go to #ubuntu-effects for help
[05:54] <waspius> ok thank you
[05:54] <dr_willis> i agree with that statement about Beryl.
[05:54] <PhinnFort> ;)
[05:54] <dr_willis> I wish people would get over the eye-candy-addiction allready
[05:55] <dr_willis> "but it brings more people over to linux..."   (and thats a good reason to use linux?)
[05:55] <dr_willis> heh
[05:55] <PhinnFort> ;)
[05:55] <PhinnFort> if Beryl is what makes people switch, well, then...
[05:55] <hak5fan> I'm not really eye-candy addicted,i don't mind the terminal really
[05:55] <dr_willis> Wife got on her new vista laptop - fiirst thing she did - disabled all the vista stuff and made it look like windows95
[05:55] <dr_willis> I should of put kubuntu on it and tolkd her it was the new vista
[05:56] <PhinnFort> KDE 4 will then definately make Linux break through on the desktop
[05:56] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: :P
[05:56] <PhinnFort> hak5fan: I have eye candy in my terminal
[05:56] <PhinnFort> COLOURED ls
[05:56] <dr_willis> I dident belive all the bad press id heard about vista. and guess what.. its true. :) it is nasty
[05:56] <yuriy> dr_willis: and then she would proceed to change it to the redmond theme
[05:56] <dr_willis> yuriy,  that would be ok :)
[05:56] <yuriy> any permissions gurus around?
[05:56] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: well, I always like a good microsoft bashing, but I thought the Vista bashing was a bit overboard, until I tried it myself;)
[05:57] <hak5fan> Vista is crap
[05:57] <titanix88> PhinnFort: when beryl + compiz stabilizes i won't have my commands without a wobbly terminal.
[05:57] <PhinnFort> well, I like the skin
[05:57] <PhinnFort> darn netsplit
[05:57] <waspius> dr_willis: beauty is something that people will never get over..it is what attracks you and what makes your life better...the fact that they choose linux-mac over windows etc shows that they understand the need for a more secure,stable and better os...however the issue of beauty will never be absent
[05:57] <titanix88> hak5fan: i agree!!
[05:57] <dr_willis> PhinnFort,  when that User Controll thing Poped up when the wife was wanting to simply remove a useless icon from the start menu.. i knew it was  a bad sign.
[05:57] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: :P
[05:57] <PhinnFort> feck feck feck
[05:57] <PhinnFort> can't even read a single line
[05:57] <dr_willis> one day MS will figure out how to seperate USERS from Admins..
[05:58] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: in your dreams;)
[05:58] <titanix88> someone mass killing everyone?
[05:58] <dr_willis> MSLinux
[05:58] <dr_willis> :0
[05:58] <waspius> another question...does anyone use qtorent?because i am trying to find what port is uses and its settings and i cannot
[05:58] <PhinnFort> titanix88: netsplit
[05:58] <PhinnFort> titanix88: look it up on wikipedia
[05:58] <dr_willis> torrent clients normally use the same ports i thoght
[05:58] <PhinnFort> waspius: use KTorrent
[05:58] <trakinas> PhinnFort: yep
[05:58] <trakinas> long time i dont see one.
[05:58] <titanix88> waspius: try ktorrent.it rocks.
[05:58] <dr_willis> like 6668 ? or was that irc.
[05:58] <dr_willis> :)
[05:59] <PhinnFort> !botsnack
[05:59] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[05:59] <waspius> PhinnFort: ok i will check it out..thank you
[05:59] <hak5fan> I tried vista beta build 5308 it really sucked.... extremly slow and shitty
[05:59] <PhinnFort> waspius: it is the best torrent client available
[05:59] <waspius> PhinnFort: thank you
[05:59] <titanix88> PhinnFort: i know but admins should take care of that.
[05:59] <PhinnFort> vista looks pretty, though
[05:59] <PhinnFort> titanix88: ?
[05:59] <waspius> PhinnFort: but that runs under kde!!i am under gnome
[05:59] <PhinnFort> waspius: INFIDEL!
[05:59] <PhinnFort> :P
[05:59] <trakinas> so, like i said...
[05:59] <PhinnFort> waspius: qtorrent is Qt based
[05:59] <trakinas> PhinnFort: not yet. someone else told me to do so, but also told me to try to replicate it with other ubuntu kernel flavors.
[06:00] <titanix88> waspius: just install it.it works fine.(i'm in gnome too)
[06:00] <PhinnFort> trakinas: well, report the bug, or see if someone has reported it already
[06:00] <trakinas> waspius: i used the default bit torrent. was enough to me.
[06:00] <waspius> titanix88: ok..thank you
[06:01] <trakinas> waspius: anyways... gnome-files.org
[06:01] <titanix88> PhinnFort: i thought netsplit is some kind of attack. it isn't?
[06:01] <PhinnFort> titanix88: nope
[06:01] <PhinnFort> not necessarily
[06:01] <trakinas> not gnome-files
[06:01] <trakinas> gnomefiles.org
[06:01] <DraxNS> ok.. now I am really pis*ed off ...
[06:01] <PhinnFort> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[06:02] <titanix88> PhinnFort: me gnome+kde+xfce :)
[06:02] <DraxNS> is there a way to connecti via slmodemd on feisty???
[06:02] <PhinnFort> titanix88: bigamist?
[06:02] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:02] <trakinas> waspius: http://gnomefiles.org/search.php?search=
[06:02] <PhinnFort> titanix88: I tried XFCE4 not long ago, under Arch Linux, with Beryl
[06:02] <PhinnFort> titanix88: smooth, but really clunky imho
[06:02] <DraxNS> dialup anyone? smartlink?
[06:02] <DraxNS> dialup anyone? smartlink?
[06:02] <DraxNS> dialup anyone? smartlink?
[06:02] <waspius> PhinnFort: because the users running linux are all part of one community...help should be offered to everyone..therefore it dont matter what distro you run or what window manager..that what i think..
[06:02] <DraxNS> feisty?
[06:02] <PhinnFort> !spam | DraxNS
[06:02] <ubotu> DraxNS: Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !NickSpam - and most importantly, use common sense :-)
[06:03] <PhinnFort> waspius: well, using the appropriate channels is always a good thing
[06:03] <DraxNS> yes yes.... I am way beyond spam right now PhinnFort
[06:03] <PhinnFort> waspius: since there's huge differences between gnome and KDE
[06:03] <PhinnFort> DraxNS: :P
[06:03] <titanix88> PhinnFort: i only miss right click menu on desktop. but amazingly it's compositing is astonishing.
[06:03] <PhinnFort> titanix88: tried E17?
[06:04] <DraxNS> dialup anyone? smartlink?
[06:04] <waspius> PhinnFort: yes it is..but if you cannot get help in some it is always good to ask elsewhere...there is a huge difference between the two but some issues are more general..
[06:04] <DraxNS> dialup anyone? smartlink? on feisty?
[06:04] <PhinnFort> waspius: therefore I always assume everyone in here is using KDE
[06:04] <titanix88> PhinnFortS: what's that?
[06:04] <titanix88> PhinnFort: what's that?
[06:05] <PhinnFort> ?
[06:05] <titanix88> DraxNS: i'm using dialup.
[06:05] <waspius> PhinnFort: and it is the correct assumption..
[06:05] <DraxNS> with smartlink driver? titanix88?
[06:06] <titanix88> PhinnFort: not really, but what's ur problem?
[06:06] <PhinnFort> titanix88: only problem I have is that KDevelop's editor fonts are b0rked
[06:06] <PhinnFort> some of the fonts KUbuntu ships with are really horrible
[06:06] <DraxNS> !bugs
[06:06] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:06] <titanix88> PhinnFort: sorry not to u. but to DraxNS.
[06:07] <PhinnFort> :P
[06:07] <DraxNS> my problem is no carrier titanix88
[06:07] <titanix88> DraxNS: wvdial works fine with almost everyone.
[06:07] <DraxNS> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417135 titanix88
[06:07] <alakhia> I am having trouble playing MJPEG encoded avi file using kaffeine ...
[06:07] <dr_willis> if the modem is in fact useable under linux that is. :0
[06:08] <alakhia> anyone know what could be wrong? In particular, I get sound but no video.
[06:08] <titanix88> alakhia: installed libxine-extracodecs?
[06:08] <DraxNS> it was... under edgy... working like charm...
[06:08] <alakhia> titanix88: I don't know ... it works under mplayer so I didn't bother doing anything
[06:08] <alakhia> titanix88: let me check
[06:09] <dr_willis> thats a standard "codec not installed problem' :)
[06:09] <dr_willis> differnt players may be doingthings difrently - may want to try vlc out also
[06:09] <yourpal> Having a problem bringing my screen resolution to the right settings.
[06:09] <titanix88> alakhia: mplayer is a self-contained player.but kaffaine uses xine framework.
[06:10] <tschentz> @yourpal what graphics adapter?
[06:10] <yourpal> My xorg.conf says the right resolution (1280x800) but Kubuntu doesnt let it be at that setting
[06:10] <alakhia> titanix88: ah, ok ... yes, I'm missing that package. Let me install that now.
[06:10] <yourpal> intel mobile 945
[06:10] <hak5fan> Vista made me switch to Linux... no it forced me into it..... hehehe
[06:10] <tschentz> @yourpal did you install 915resolution?
[06:10] <yourpal> nope what is that?
[06:10] <tschentz> sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[06:11] <yourpal> i will now
[06:11] <trakinas> PhinnFort: what do I fill in in package/project
[06:11] <tschentz> @yourpal and after this edit /etc/default/915resolution
[06:11] <PhinnFort> trakinas: linux-image?
[06:11] <tschentz> @yourpal let me check on my machine for my settings....
[06:11] <PhinnFort> trakinas: just take what fits best, and hopefully if you're wrong someone who knows better will fix it
[06:12] <trakinas> okay. thanks
[06:12] <tschentz> @yourpal you have to do: sudo 915resolution -l  after installing
[06:13] <tschentz> you will see the possible modes for your adapter
[06:13] <alakhia> titanix88 and dr_willis: Thanks guys ... it works now! :-)
[06:13] <yourpal> tschentz >> then edit the conf file
[06:13] <yourpal> tschentz >> right?
[06:13] <tschentz> yes
[06:14] <tschentz> @yourpal you have to enter the "mode"
[06:14] <tschentz> @yourpal and the resolution
[06:14] <titanix88> i installed too many apps and my K menu always showes everything. no scrolling . it's disturbing. anyone know anyfix?
[06:14] <tschentz> @yourpal: e.g. my mode is  MODE=5a  and XRES=1400 YRES=1050
[06:15] <alansii> hi everyone
[06:15] <alakhia> okay, another question ... about apt. Is there a way to disable some dependencies?
[06:15] <yourpal> tschentz >> mode 5c
[06:15] <alansii> anyone know hot to type chinese in kubuntu?
[06:15] <dr_willis> alakhia,  not sure what you mean.
[06:15] <yourpal> xreso = 1280 yreso= 800 right
[06:15] <alakhia> for example, i want to install limewire. But that installs a whole bunch of gnome stuff which I do want
[06:15] <titanix88> alakhia: this will brake u r repository.
[06:15] <dr_willis> if a program depends on another package.. well it may not work without it.
[06:16] <tschentz> @yourpal: ok, give it a try.... after editing do a sudo /etc/init.d/915resolution restart
[06:16] <dr_willis> !frostfire
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about frostfire - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:16] <yourpal> tschentz >>xreso = 1280 yreso= 800 right
[06:16] <dr_willis> limewire is in the repos?
[06:16] <tschentz> @yourpal and restart X
[06:16] <dr_willis> !frostwire
[06:16] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[06:16] <alansii> anyone there?
[06:16] <alansii> anyone know hot to type chinese in kubuntu?
[06:16] <tschentz> @yourpal: if it doesn't work on the first try... simply try to reboot
[06:16] <alakhia> titanix88 and dr_willis: i tried to install the deb package from limewire website using dpkg. It installed fine and works
[06:16] <dr_willis> alansii,  no idea.
[06:16] <yourpal> ok thznks
[06:16] <yourpal> trying now
[06:16] <alansii> ok never mind sorry
[06:16] <dr_willis> !ch
[06:16] <tschentz> @yourpal good luck
[06:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ch - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:17] <dr_willis> whats the ubuntu chineese channel?
[06:17] <dr_willis> !cn
[06:17] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:17] <alakhia> titanix88 and dr_willis: but now when I need to install other things, I need to install gamin gconf2 gnome-mime-data libavahi-glib1 libbonobo2-0
[06:17] <dr_willis> alakhia,  if the package installed and works.. whats saying to install the otehr things then?
[06:17] <alakhia> titanix88 and dr_willis: about 23 MBs of stuff that I don't want
[06:17] <titanix88>  alakhia : then it already had dependencies installed or knoe dependecies at all.
[06:18] <alakhia> titanix88 and dr_willis: when I tried installingn xine extra codecs, I got a msg saying I had unmet deps
[06:18] <dr_willis> sounds like some updates have came down the line.
[06:18] <dr_willis> xine may very well need the extra stuff
[06:18] <alakhia> titanix88 and dr_willis: that I needed to run install -f with no args
[06:18] <titanix88> alakhia: why from limewire site?
[06:19] <dr_willis> ive learned the hard way its best to just let the Package manager do its job and install the stuff it says it needs.
[06:19] <alakhia> titanix88 and dr_willis: no, the deb file for limewire needs it
[06:19] <dr_willis> alakhia,  in that case the deb says it needs it. If its incorrect. then file a bug with the .deb maintainer..
[06:19] <alakhia> titanix88 and dr_willis: hmm, is limewire in the repository?
[06:19] <dr_willis> !find limewire
[06:19] <dr_willis> I wouldent use limewire. id use that frostwire
[06:20] <ubotu> File limewire found in ubuntu-docs
[06:20] <dr_willis> Hmm
[06:20] <dr_willis> thats weird.
[06:20] <dr_willis> must be a doc about limewire
[06:20] <alakhia> titanix88 and dr_willis: frostwire ... ok, could give that a try
[06:21] <tschentz> @yourpal: did it work out?
[06:21] <yourpal> tshentz >> Like a charm!  Thanks dude. - originally I was fiddling with xorg.conf and it was set up right but the resolution was not showing up in KDE
[06:22] <yourpal> tshentz >> why is that?
[06:22] <alakhia> titanix88 and dr_willis: how can I search for a package name? it can't find frostwire.
[06:22] <titanix88> alakhia: frostwire or limewire what does they do?
[06:22] <alakhia> titanix88 and dr_willis: peer to peer download program
[06:22] <tschentz> @yourpal: has something to do with the bios and intel... : apt-cache show 915resolution
[06:23] <alakhia> titanix88: the napster of today, I guess
[06:23] <yourpal> tshentz >> oh I see.  Man things are always more complicated than they need to be eh?
[06:23] <titanix88> alakhia: press tab after giving "sudo apt-get install frost"
[06:23] <titanix88> alakhia: it's called autocomplition.
[06:23] <tschentz> @yourpal: sometimes... It took me forever to find out how this works... :)
[06:24] <yourpal> tshentz >> lol!  You mean IRC? LMAO
[06:24] <alakhia> titanix88: tab doesn't do anything ... just beeps
[06:24] <tschentz> @yourpal lol
[06:24] <hyuma_> what's the utility to manage cellphone nokia?
[06:24] <yourpal> tshentz >> Well atleast its not OpenBSD
[06:24] <xst> I try to make a samba-shared folder writeable so that new files are owned by the <me>-user. For that, I right-click on the folder -> properties -> share and select <my username> as the guest user. But when I do that, the client claims that the shared folder, say foo, does not exist. Why?!
[06:25] <alakhia> titanix88: I thought tab completion only worked for local files
[06:25] <titanix88> alakhia: that means it is not in the repository.
[06:25] <yourpal> tshentz >> Have a great day man.  I gotta get some work done
[06:26] <tschentz> @youpal: allright... c u
[06:26] <alakhia> titanix88: wow, this is cool. I tried for other packages and it works!
[06:27] <alakhia> titanix88: too bad it doesn't work in tcsh
[06:27] <titanix88> alakhia:try"sudo apt-get" and tab. u will get possible commands like "install" too. :)
[06:28] <trakinas> reported!
[06:28] <alakhia> titanix88: nice!
[06:30] <alakhia> I'm looking forward to the new tickless kernel for my laptop
[06:30] <titanix88> alakhia: why use tcsh. i heard bash combines power of csh & tcsh in top of sh.
[06:31] <weiser> Hey I have installet Kubuntu on my Medion MD6200 and I have a little problem with ACPI on it, There is no ACPI support at all on it, I have being running Gentoo on it with fully ACPI support. I did have to turn off the ACPI support when I bootet on the install cdrom, but it must be possilbel to get to work, any one any ideas?
[06:32] <hnaik> I install beryl frm the packages
[06:32] <alakhia> titanix88: i have shortcut keys setup in tcsh ... which I guess I need to figure out how to do in bash. Never bothered because tcsh works just fine
[06:32] <dfeser> hey there! can anyone help me with kernel compiling?
[06:32] <hnaik> and if I launch beryl-manager from my system tray ...
[06:32] <sercik> do you remember my problems with athlon64 and cpu scaling?
[06:32] <hnaik> nothing happens
[06:33] <titanix88> alakhia: /bin/bash :)
[06:33] <hnaik> it just blinks and falls back to KWin
[06:33] <hnaik> dfeser: install the make-kpkg tool and fakeroot
[06:34] <sercik> someone of people with which i have chatted some hour ago??
[06:34] <alakhia> titanix88: I mean shortcut keys like doing "Esc p" to search back in history while matching what has been typed
[06:34] <hyuma_> hey anyone use Yakuake?
[06:34] <elcuco>  hyuma_ yes
[06:34] <hnaik> hyuma_: I do
[06:34] <sercik> i have installed it and see it
[06:34] <hyuma_> elcuco do you install themes?
[06:34] <hyuma_> or something else?
[06:34] <elcuco> nioe
[06:34] <alakhia> !compile kernel
[06:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compile kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:35] <alakhia> !kernel
[06:35] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:35] <hyuma_> is not possible to move yakuake from the top right?
[06:35] <dfeser> hnaik i have installed this...compiling is no problem...
[06:35] <titanix88> alakhia: install debian-reference
[06:35] <dfeser> hnaik when I install the apt file there are some lines lile this: find: /lib/firmware/2.6.21-acer8000: No such file or directory
[06:36] <hnaik> k
[06:36] <alakhia> titanix88: what is that package for?
[06:37] <sercik> i have solved my problem with athlon64 and cool&quiet
[06:38] <sercik> i don't know why but when i load powersaved service he try to insert speedstep centrino module
[06:38] <sercik> but i have an athlon75
[06:38] <titanix88> alakhia: about kernel compile.
[06:38] <sercik> 64
[06:39] <titanix88> alakhia: also installation-guide-i386
[06:40] <adam_> jest ktos z polski ?
[06:40] <PhinnFort> !pl | adam_
[06:40] <DraxNS> !pl | adam_
[06:40] <ubotu> adam_: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[06:43] <titanix88> alakhia: for napster install knapster2 / lopster / nap(found them in synaptic :)
[06:44] <PhinnFort> how come I can't access buntudot.org?
[06:44] <sercik> Hi PhinnFort!
[06:44] <sercik> i have solved!
[06:44] <ubuntu_> hello
[06:44] <PhinnFort> :D
[06:44] <ubuntu_> yesterday i had somerpoblem with my grapich card driver
[06:44] <titanix88> :)
[06:44] <sercik> thanks for your hint to load that module!
[06:45] <ubuntu_> i have ati radeon 9600 and i hag flgrx,
[06:45] <titanix88> ubuntu_: i remember u.
[06:45] <PhinnFort> ubuntu_: don't use fglrx
[06:45] <PhinnFort> ubuntu_: it sucks, it's closed source
[06:45] <sercik> there is a strange bug! powersaved tried to lad speedstep centrino module and not athlon ke
[06:45] <PhinnFort> ubuntu_: if you use the open source driver you can use beryl and everything good just straight away
[06:45] <ubuntu_> so i unistalled and restarted to later install it agian, but when i tried to restart it just didnt get anywhere
[06:45] <titanix88> PhinnFort: but u have no choice :(
[06:45] <ubuntu_> just the black screen
[06:45] <PhinnFort> ubuntu_: try to remove the xorg.conf file
[06:46] <PhinnFort> or move it to a safe place
[06:46] <sercik> if i want to start powernow_k8 module at startup??
[06:46] <ubuntu_> well the pronl==bme now
[06:46] <dfeser> here i am again
[06:46] <PhinnFort> sercik: look in /etc/modules.d
[06:46] <ubuntu_> is that i am on the cd live version i am not inside the machine
[06:46] <ubuntu_> how do i get it to work again_
[06:46] <dfeser> when I compile a new kernel...what about all the firmware files?
[06:47] <ubuntu_> a rare think i got was that at the beggining when it asks if i want to use kubuntu or windows, i have now 2 alternatives with kubuntu
[06:47] <dfeser> what do I have to do?
[06:47] <ubuntu_> if i try to install kubuntu from the cd now, is there any risk i would be messing something up_
[06:47] <sercik> ok i didn't remember.. i have added powernow_k8 to file /etc/modules
[06:48] <PhinnFort> Hobbsee: ping
[06:48] <Hobbsee> PhinnFort: pong
[06:48] <PhinnFort> Hobbsee: can you access buntudot.org?
[06:49] <PhinnFort> (you where at  the top in google when I searched for it;))
[06:49] <Hobbsee> PhinnFort: no, it doesnt exist anymore
[06:49] <Hobbsee> PhinnFort: it's now at ubuntuwire.com
[06:49] <PhinnFort> Hobbsee: hum?
[06:49] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[06:49] <Hobbsee> as in, the shell accounts dont exist anymore, that domain dropped
[06:49] <PhinnFort> Hobbsee: just a dns change, so everything is there?
[06:49] <Hobbsee> what were you wanting?
[06:50] <PhinnFort> people/~jdong/ktorrent/2.2~beta1/feisty/ktorrent_2.2~beta1-0ubuntu1~7.04prevu1_amd64.deb
[06:50] <Hobbsee> i dobut it, i think that stuff is unaccesssible nwo
[06:50] <PhinnFort> the ktorrent debs from jdong
[06:50] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ping
[06:50] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: You sent me a contentless ping.  This is a contentless pong.  Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I will respond when I am around.
[06:50] <Hobbsee> ahh
[06:50] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ping @ buntudot
[06:50] <Hobbsee> doubt it still exists
[06:50] <Hobbsee> jdong wont have access to ubuntuwire
[06:50] <PhinnFort> ah, ok
[06:50] <PhinnFort> I'll mail him, or something
[06:52] <titanix88> bye everyone!
[06:52] <navets> http://by107fd.bay107.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/HoTMaiL?curmbox=00000000%2d0000%2d0000%2d0000%2d000000000001&a=f7edff3f4f9f1be0a18a3fcdce60a1ade99a009b66396926687084d1f4fe4dc5
[06:52] <navets> whoops sorry
[06:52] <ubuntu_> hi something is worng her
[06:52] <ubuntu_> i am trying to install kubuntu from the live cd
[06:53] <ubuntu_> but when it gest to the part where it asks how i want to partion i does not show anything
[06:55] <dfeser> can i use firmware files that are meant for a 2.6.20 kernel with a 2.6.21 kernel?
[06:55] <PhinnFort> dfeser: probably, yes
[06:55] <PhinnFort> dfeser: depends on the drivers
[06:55] <nosrednaekim> ubuntu_: its not detecting your disk drive. are you doing raid?
[06:56] <ubuntu_> it is wrking now
[06:57] <dfeser> PhinnFort I just compiled a kernel and copied the firmware dir to the kernel-matching name...but when I try to boot it, it hangs after uncrompressing kernel image...OK
[06:58] <PhinnFort> dfeser: I'm not to terribly familiar with the way ubuntu packs it's initrd
[06:58] <dfeser> PhinnFort when I try to boot failsave it boots until the ipw2200 driver loads and then it hangs
[06:58] <PhinnFort> dfeser: try to not include the firmware in the initrd
[06:58] <PhinnFort> dfeser: then manually load the driver once the system is up
[06:59] <dfeser> PhinnFort i did not include the firmware in the kernel
[06:59] <PhinnFort> dfeser: in the ramdisk?
[06:59] <alakhia> titanix88: cool, thanks for all the info. Was afk for a while
[06:59] <PhinnFort> that the kernel loads early
[06:59] <hyuma> hey how can I install driver for cellual phone via USB?
[06:59] <hyuma> I've nokia
[07:00] <hyuma> and lsusb don't recognize vendor
[07:00] <iarwain_> hiya, anyone know why i get an "Authentication error: Not authorized" when trying to connect Psi to jabber?
[07:00] <hyuma> nothing listed
[07:00] <dfeser> PhinnFort you mean I should try to not include the ipw2200 driver in the kernel but make it a module?
[07:01] <PhinnFort> dfeser: you could try that too
[07:01] <jwallingford> !repositories
[07:01] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:02] <jwallingford> can someone tell me where I can get good repositories for ubuntu?
[07:03] <PhinnFort> !repomatic
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repomatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <PhinnFort> !repositories
[07:03] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:05] <PhinnFort> !source-o-matic | jwallingford
[07:05] <ubotu> jwallingford: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:06] <iarwain_> noone?
[07:06] <PhinnFort> iarwain_: try kopete
[07:06] <iarwain_> PhinnFort: okay
[07:07] <jwallingford> PhinnFort: thank you
[07:07] <PhinnFort> yw
[07:07] <yeniklasor> When I write something with "kate" and save it, I see another file(backup file) with it. How can I disable automatic backup feature?
[07:07] <dr_willis> look in the menu/settings under automatic backups?
[07:08] <dr_willis> those backups have saved my backside on several occasions. :)
[07:08] <secleinteer> hi, does anyone know how to turn off the on screen display for kaffeine when it's in full screen? right now i get the play time in the upper left corner
[07:08] <ubunturos> yeniklasor: Settings -> Editor -> Open/Save -> Backup on Save
[07:09] <aroo> Anyone else having slow downloads through repositories?
[07:10] <yeniklasor> ubunturos :thanks
[07:10] <dr_willis> some servers are faster then others.
[07:10] <elcuco> i am using kdevelop for developing a qt4 application, and it crashes a lot on startups. anyone else experiencing this issue...?
[07:10] <ubunturos> yeniklasor: welcome
[07:16] <martijn> hell
[07:16] <martijn> hello :)
[07:16] <PhinnFort> o
[07:16] <PhinnFort> :P
[07:16] <martijn> anyone here using kmail?
[07:17] <PhinnFort> my
[07:17] <PhinnFort> *me
[07:17] <martijn> great :)
[07:17] <PhinnFort> i just mailed jdong
[07:17] <PhinnFort> :D
[07:17] <martijn> also kde 3.5.7?
[07:17] <PhinnFort> yup
[07:17] <martijn> wow
[07:17] <PhinnFort> [check] 
[07:17] <martijn> and do you also experience smtp problems since the update?
[07:17] <PhinnFort> nope
[07:17] <martijn> i am using gmail in kmail
[07:17] <PhinnFort> me too
[07:17] <martijn> and it complaints about smtp
[07:17] <martijn> =t
[07:18] <PhinnFort> I get none
[07:18] <martijn> -r
[07:18] <martijn> hmm
[07:18] <PhinnFort> and as I said, I've just mailed jdong and gotten a reply, so I know it works
[07:18] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:18] <martijn> ah
[07:18] <martijn> hmm
[07:18] <PhinnFort> smtp.gmail.com
[07:18] <PhinnFort> port 25
[07:18] <martijn> yes
[07:18] <martijn> no
[07:18] <martijn> 25?
[07:18] <PhinnFort> yup
[07:19] <PhinnFort> I've read the docs
[07:19] <PhinnFort> ;)
[07:19] <martijn> nope
[07:19] <martijn> still get the error
[07:20] <PhinnFort> security=
[07:20] <PhinnFort> ?
[07:20] <martijn> Sending failed:
[07:20] <martijn> Could not connect to host smtp.gmail.com.
[07:20] <PhinnFort> have you made it detect automagically?
[07:20] <PhinnFort> martijn: try pinging smtp.gmail.com
[07:20] <martijn> yes ssl and login
[07:21] <martijn> ping is ok
[07:21] <martijn> already tried :)
[07:21] <martijn> but the setup like this has worked for ages
[07:21] <martijn> and suddenly it is giving problems
[07:21] <PhinnFort> no login
[07:21] <PhinnFort> PLAIN
[07:21] <PhinnFort> it says here at least
[07:21] <martijn> plain
[07:22] <martijn> wait
[07:22] <PhinnFort> maybe gmail has been more forgiving
[07:22] <PhinnFort> in the past
[07:24] <martijn> nop
[07:24] <PhinnFort> no go?
[07:24] <martijn> tls, ssl, login, plain, port 465, port 9something, port 25
[07:25] <PhinnFort> is the username you use to authenticate good?
[07:25] <PhinnFort> use the full shebang: username@gmail.com
[07:25] <jwallingford> is it safe to get the 64bit version for my 64 bit computer or are there a lot of driver issues with it?
[07:26] <Qaldune> no
[07:26] <Qaldune> go get it
[07:26] <PhinnFort> jwallingford: no driver issues in Linux
[07:26] <PhinnFort> jwallingford: 64-bit has been supported for ages by Linux
[07:26] <yourpal> anyone know about those new free fonts that redhat released?  How do we get them on Kubuntu?
[07:26] <Qaldune> the only single thing i would recommend is to get automatix in order to get all that only-32 bit stuff working such as flash plugin
[07:27] <BluesKaj> !automatix2
[07:27] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[07:27] <jwallingford> and kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde right?
[07:27] <dr_willis> i see no reason to use 64bit version of ubuntu at this time either.
[07:27] <jwallingford> or is it an addon to ubuntu
[07:27] <PhinnFort> jwallingford: yeah
[07:27] <dr_willis> unless you got really specilized needs
[07:27] <yourpal> anyone know about those new free fonts that redhat released?  How do we get them on Kubuntu?
[07:27] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: why not?
[07:28] <PhinnFort> !repeat | yourpal
[07:28] <ubotu> yourpal: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:28] <dr_willis> PhinnFort,  why bother if you gain nothing. (for most people)
[07:28] <Qaldune> jwallingford is the ubuntu version that come with kde by default
[07:28] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: I gain a marginal speed increase in most apps
[07:28] <dr_willis> and it can have a lot of little annoying issues.
[07:28] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: ;)
[07:28] <dr_willis> 'marginal' :)
[07:28] <Qaldune> i do see a reason to use 64bit version of software if you are able to
[07:28] <yourpal> ubuto >> you are a bot don't talk to non-digital entities
[07:28] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: those issues won't be weeded out if noone finds them
[07:29] <Qaldune> what lot of little annoying issues?
[07:29] <dr_willis> PhinnFort,  of course the main issue these days are with the binary/driver/companies - that dont release the code... so..
[07:29] <Qaldune> i've never gotten one
[07:29] <yourpal> !patience
[07:29] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[07:29] <BluesKaj> why should we care about redhat here , yourpal ...there plenty of fonts available
[07:29] <dr_willis> Qaldune,  hang in here enough and you will see a few every day.
[07:29] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: I don't
[07:29] <BluesKaj> !fonts
[07:29] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: I've used 64-bit for ~3 years
[07:29] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[07:29] <Qaldune> dr_willis i've used ubuntu 64bit version for a year
[07:29] <Qaldune> and no trouble found
[07:29] <dr_willis> PhinnFort,   so all these people with issues are confused then eh? :)
[07:30] <PhinnFort> smooth as a chickens flapping leg
[07:30] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: yeah
[07:30] <martijn> hey phinnfort, still no success, but thanks
[07:30] <dr_willis> go run zsnes :0
[07:30] <jwallingford> is there a kubuntu server edition?
[07:30] <dr_willis> heh..
[07:30] <SlimeyPete> jwallingford: that would just be the same as ubuntu server edition, surely
[07:30] <yourpal> jwallingford - server does not have gnome or kde
[07:30] <yourpal> jwallingford - server does not have gui
[07:30] <jwallingford> ah
[07:30] <yourpal> jwallingford - you can add it if you want
[07:31] <yourpal> jwallingford - but its not security best practice
[07:31] <jwallingford> hmm... i hope there is a lot of support for the server edition. I need a server and dont know command line very well
[07:31] <yourpal> jwallingford - check out ispconfig or webmin
[07:31] <BluesKaj> Qaldune, you must be the exception to the rule , cuz most of us who have tried 64bit versions have been very unsatisfied , especially with hardware drivers etc
[07:31] <dr_willis> support will not make you instantly learn the command line. :) learning the command line will learn you the command line.
[07:31] <yourpal> jwallingford - check out ispconfig or webmin are webified gui's to admin your box
[07:31] <Qaldune> blueskaj so am i
[07:32] <fdoving> jwallingford: you can install serv with kubuntu too, it's the same packages. install whatever services you need and get the gui config apps :)
[07:32] <Qaldune> only trouble i found is to get flash plugin working... all i need to do is download automatix2 and give it a few minutes..
[07:32] <yourpal> jwallingford - there are tons of books and free articles on server configuration
[07:32] <Qaldune> if you think that's enough not to get 64bit.. that's fine with me, but don't mess around with people. 64bit is a very reliable and more efficient option
[07:32] <yourpal> jwallingford - check out wiki/help and even debcentral or howtoforge.net
[07:33] <jwallingford> ok thank you
[07:33] <yourpal> jwallingford - np. don't be intimidated by the command line it will get easier as you go forward
[07:34] <yourpal> anyone know when the new patch for Firefox is coming out?
[07:35] <Qaldune> yourpal: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/2.0.0.4/
[07:35] <yourpal> yes i know
[07:35] <yourpal> never mind
[07:36] <jwallingford> what is eubuntu and xubuntu?
[07:36] <dr_willis> time for me to hit the JOB! argh!
[07:36] <yourpal> qaldune >> how do you apply the .mar files?
[07:37] <SlimeyPete> jwallingford: edubuntu has educational software preinstalled. Xubuntu uses XFCE instead of Gnome or KDE.
[07:37] <jwallingford> ok i know what xubuntu is what is eubuntu?
[07:37] <jwallingford> ah ok
[07:37] <Qaldune> .mar files?
[07:37] <jwallingford> thank you
[07:37] <Qaldune> i've got no idea about that sorry
[07:38] <yourpal> qaldune >> the update files
[07:38] <yourpal> qaldune >> the update files in the updates folder off of releases....mozilla.org
[07:38] <Qaldune> yourpal if you wanna update just download the latest version...
[07:39] <yourpal> qaldune >> Yes, I know that but I thought there might be a way to apply that update
[07:39] <yourpal> qaldune >> yeah, I will. tx
[07:39] <Qaldune> np
[07:40] <yourpal> qaldune >> I wish Kubuntu allowed one to update right from inside firefox and just asked for sudo
[07:41] <Qaldune> yourpal i wish that too
[07:41] <yourpal> qaldune >> have a good 1 man
[07:41] <yourpal> qaldune >> later
[07:41] <Qaldune> later
[07:42] <ikaroweb> hi
[07:42] <ikaroweb> i'm italian so, sorry for my english
[07:43] <ikaroweb> i've a problem with amarok
[07:43] <ikaroweb> i've installed on ubuntu
[07:43] <ikaroweb> my problem is with wiki-lyrics
[07:43] <ikaroweb> so help me please :(
[07:43] <spawn57> there's an #amarok channel I think, you might have better luck there
[07:43] <ikaroweb> ok thanks
[07:43] <ikaroweb> ;)
[07:44] <spawn57> =D
[07:47] <jwallingford> anybody here used win4lin before?
[07:53] <payam> #kubuntu-se
[07:53] <payam> #ubuntu-se
[07:56] <l_r> ello
[07:56] <l_r> i'd like to know why clicking on "close session" from the K menu never works.
[07:57] <adam_> polska ?
[07:57] <adam_> jest ktos z polski ?
[07:58] <BluesKaj> !pl
[07:58] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[08:00] <cyber-hazard> it used to be (all the way up to 7.04 beta) that when I'd plugin my laptop it would auto mount and place an icon on my desktop. now it doesn't anymore (7.04 release). anyone know if that was changed in the release, or if perhaps I changed something without realizing it?
[08:02] <Skrot-> Ehm, guys.. is it normal for KNetWorkamanger to use 785.932 in VmRss and 969.004 in VmSize (read via KDE System Guard)..?
[08:02] <Skrot-> KNetworkManager*
[08:02] <mikkael> is here someone who used "fxload" ?
[08:08] <PhinnFort> !info fxload
[08:08] <ubotu> fxload: Firmware download to EZ-USB devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.0.20020411-1 (feisty), package size 13 kB, installed size 76 kB
[08:15] <binks> anyone no of a good repair tool for a hdd that causes crashes due to errors
[08:18] <max_> ciao a tutti
[08:18] <BluesKaj> binks, what are the errors?
[08:18] <max_> qualche italiano?
[08:18] <BluesKaj> !it | max_
[08:18] <ubotu> max_: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:18] <binks> not sure but if install a new os onto the hdd it random crashes on another hdd its ok
[08:19] <max_> grazie a te!
[08:19] <binks> how do i find the errors
[08:19] <max_> ciao
[08:19] <fdoving> binks: replace the drive.
[08:19] <binks> fdoving: lol is there no tool to cure bad blocks and so on
[08:20] <binks> im scottish i hate spending money
[08:20] <cyber-hazard> errr....how are those two related?
[08:20] <fdoving> binks: sure, you can -try- 'e2fsck -c /dev/<device>', but i'd recommend replacing it before it crashes totaly and you loose data.
[08:21] <ignazio> ciao
[08:21] <ignazio> c' qualche italiano?
[08:21] <BluesKaj> not physical bad blocks ... if the drive is scratched or has separated sustrate , then dump it
[08:21] <cyber-hazard> !it | ignazio
[08:21] <ubotu> ignazio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:21] <BluesKaj> substrate
[08:21] <binks> ok it goes cheers
[08:21] <ignazio> thanks
[08:24] <binks> ok random q. 2 can someone thats learnt c++ from a book recomend a good one to get to start
[08:25] <DraxNS> dialup anyone? smartlink? on feisty?
[08:25] <DraxNS> dialup anyone? smartlink? on feisty?
[08:26] <ctroyer> what is a good sound editing tool in kubuntu?
[08:26] <mikkael> what would happen if i'd install ubuntustudio-desktop from kde: will this just add the ubuntustudio (gnome) session to kdm or will this mess up my system ?
[08:26] <ctroyer> i have used cool edit pro 2 in xp....looking for something comparable
[08:26] <DraxNS> ctroyer: rezound
[08:27] <ctroyer> do u have a link
[08:27] <ctroyer> or is it packaged?
[08:27] <DraxNS> it is in repo
[08:27] <Slynderdale> Hmm, with Konversation, is it possible to write scripts, ect to change how it works? LIke text prefixed with a colen or semi colen would turn into a /me describe?
[08:27] <ctroyer> kewl....thx i'll try that
[08:29] <DraxNS> dialup anyone? smartlink? on feisty?
[08:33] <Hirvinen> !GRUB
[08:33] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:38] <payam> hi
[08:38] <payam> I have a fucking question
[08:38] <ompaul> !language | payam
[08:39] <payam> !langaueg
[08:39] <ubotu> payam: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about langaueg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:39] <kyblik> Hi
[08:39] <Slynderdale> Hmm, whats a good IRC client?
[08:39] <cyber-hazard> xchat
[08:40] <payam> Hi
[08:40] <kyblik> Cech_?
[08:40] <ompaul> Slynderdale, konversation and xchat are popular
[08:40] <payam> What is MIRC?
[08:40] <payam> mIRC
[08:40] <ompaul> payam, don't troll thanks
[08:40] <kyblik> Sie haben Tsechien.__???
[08:41] <kyblik> Je tu nejaky ech?
[08:41] <fdoving> !cz | kyblik
[08:41] <ubotu> kyblik: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[08:41] <payam> No i dont do that
[08:41] <payam> I swer
[08:41] <payam> mIRC I think its some Messenger like Kopete
[08:42] <payam> nonthing
[08:42] <tsdgeos> for windows, no linux version afair
[08:42] <payam> s what is it?
[08:42] <payam> How do you chatt with that?
[08:43] <payam> #ubuntu-ir
[08:44] <yeniklasor> When I set-up snergy, I couldn't connect my cliend-server. Anyone is using Snergy?
[08:50] <yeniklasor> When I set-up snergy, I couldn't connect my cliend-server. Anyone is using Snergy?
[08:56] <venik212> I had to reboot my machine, and got the message: kinit could not find a resume image...
[08:56] <venik212> it then booted into NORMAL BOOT (CLI)
[08:56] <venik212> how do I staart the window manager in KDE?
[08:58] <fdoving> venik212: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[08:58] <Admiral_Chicago> hey everyone
[08:58] <fdoving> hey admiral_chicago.
[08:58] <compilerwriter> ctrl + alt + backspace venik212
[08:59] <venik212> I tried both, and neither worked
[08:59] <compilerwriter> no wait venik212 that is how to restart it.
[08:59] <arathald> can anyone here help me set up my VPN? im at work and I need a file from my school network very urgently. I already tried #ubuntu and no one there helped me
[08:59] <DraxNS> startx venik212
[09:00] <compilerwriter> Do you have someone at schoold to help if needs be arathald?
[09:00] <venik212> that produced an x in the middle of my screen, and a black window in the upper left corner
[09:00] <compilerwriter> or is the machine at school already to go and you need only get set up on your end arathald?
[09:01] <arathald> compilerwriter: not that I know of, but I know the VPN settings, im jsut having a brain glitch as to how to set up VPN in linux
[09:01] <arathald> compilerwriter: actually, im going into the school's vpn
[09:01] <arathald> compilerwriter: pptp
[09:01] <venik212> I have the terminal with X running, I think
[09:02] <DraxNS> your X is broken or ownership on your /home....  venik212
[09:02] <venik212> I tried to restart KDM from there, but nothing happened
[09:02] <compilerwriter> can't you just putty then arathald?
[09:03] <compilerwriter> What os am I dealing with at school?
[09:03] <arathald> compilerwriter: I don't know of a server that I can get to from outside the network that can get the file i need
[09:03] <venik212> so how do I fix it?
[09:04] <compilerwriter> Then you are pretty much screwed arathald.
[09:04] <arathald> compilerwriter: ?? why? I can VPN in and get access to the server I need
[09:05] <DraxNS> venik212: no time to walk you through
[09:05] <venik212> I take it there is no quick fix?
[09:05] <compilerwriter> Whoa arathald I thought you just said you couldn't get to a server?
[09:05] <arathald> compilerwriter: trust me, I know what im talking about, im not a newb, I just had a brain glitch today about VPN in linux, I jsut need to know how to set it up and I can handle it from there
[09:06] <arathald> compilerwriter: but VPN puts me inside the network, so I can access it
[09:06] <compilerwriter> You need to access a network but can't putty to a specific machine then arathald?
[09:08] <arathald> compilerwriter: VPN puts you into the network, that's what I'm trying to do
[09:08] <Alarm> hello, which package do i need to play an online video stream ? something like online tv for example . with what player can i do that and what plug in is requiered. i did it with mplayer and its plugin, but once the streaming is about to start my system freezes
[09:08] <arathald> compilerwriter: once I VPN in, then I will be able to access the machine I need
[09:09] <venik212> do I have to re-install the OS?
[09:09] <compilerwriter> I have been googling.  I have found mention of the need for 'network-manager-pptp to be installed.
[09:09] <compilerwriter> Do you have that at the ready.
[09:09] <arathald> compilerwriter: and I can ssh to a specific machine, but it doesn't have access to the file I need. My computer needs to be in the network to access it
[09:09] <arathald> compilerwriter: yes thats installed
[09:10] <arathald> compilerwriter: as well as vpnc
[09:10] <arathald> compilerwriter: when I run it, it doesn't connect tho
[09:10] <compilerwriter> Are you using feisty arathald?
[09:11] <payam> I need a dictionary
[09:11] <payam> Do you know some good dictionary?
[09:11] <arathald> compilerwriter: no im on Edgy currently
[09:11] <venik212> "Kinit: no resume image.  doing normal boot."  ;-(((
[09:12] <compilerwriter> arathald Feisty has a mention of some bug that can complicate things.  Give me a second and I will find the article you need.  I have it here somewhere.
[09:12] <Alarm> any idea ?
[09:13] <payam> I need  dictionary for my linux
[09:13] <payam> Vad should i do?
[09:15] <chuen> Hi. I'm getting frustrated trying to find a Laptop to use with Kubuntu. There seem to be so many issues. My main comsiderations are compatible wifi and audio (with line -in). Any suggestions as to where to look?
[09:16] <DraxNS> try other distro... chuen I will do same... probably from exactly same reason
[09:19] <arathald> compilerwriter: look, no offense, I know you're trying to be helpful, and I appreciate this, but I know I can get a vpn on this installation, cause ive done it before, and I just need someone who knows exactly how to do it, I've done my own research on it, and i really need to get this done, and ive determined that for some reason theres no good resources readily available, so I just need to find someone who knows exactly how to do this
[09:19] <arathald> compilerwriter: thanks for trying to help
[09:19] <BWolf85> oh lord guys its nice to be back!
[09:19] <ecambul> help
[09:20] <BWolf85> with?
[09:20] <compilerwriter> No offense taken. arathald I am desperately trying to find a really nice step by step I ran across ages ago when I had to do it once.  The problem is I don't do it on a regular basis.
[09:20] <ecambul> something can help me
[09:20] <compilerwriter> !ask ecambul
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ask ecambul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <chuen> DraxNS: I would do, but am so familiar with Kubuntu + the good support .... it's tricky.
[09:20] <compilerwriter> !ask | ecambul
[09:20] <ubotu> ecambul: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:29] <Graham> Morning
[09:32] <Zeelot> hellooo
[09:38] <jussi01> hello Zeelot
[09:40] <yeniklasor>  When I set-up snergy, I couldn't connect my cliend-server. Anyone is using Snergy?
[09:44] <Graham> What's snergy?
[09:47] <crackhead_25> question: how do i setup my kubuntu so that i can see and use my desktop over ssh or something remotely????
[09:48] <ohmbr> hi, I'm having problens with accents...
[09:48] <ohmbr> I have a folder that is shared with windows...
[09:49] <ohmbr> the files on this forlder that has accents does show good on konqueror...
[09:49] <Zeelot> can a delay be added to KSnapshot?
[09:49] <ohmbr> how do I chage the locale?
[09:49] <DraxNS> !locale
[09:49] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[09:50] <Zeelot> nevermind >_>
[09:53] <ohmbr> ubotu: tks...
[09:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tks... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:53] <BlueBird22> can any one tell how do i decrease the space between icones in file browser or at desktop? in kubuntu
[09:55] <blackflag> !vmware-server
[09:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmware-server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:56] <andersin> Can anybody tell me where XF86AudioMute might be caught/used in kubuntu feisty.
[09:57] <andersin> I have a mute key on my keyboard and it does not seem to work.
[09:57] <andersin> It is reported by xev as XF86AudioMute and I can use it for shortcuts
[09:57] <andersin> problem is, it does not seem to actually trigger them
[09:57] <BlueBird22> ?
[09:59] <andersin> for example, if I want to set the "toggle Mute for Master channel" shortcut in kmix, I can set it and it assigns XF86AudioMute to that shortcut
[09:59] <andersin> but if I press the button, nothing happens
[09:59] <andersin> picking another shortcut, e.g. Ctrl+Alt+w works fine
[10:03] <BlueBird22> can any one tell how do i decrease the space between icones in file browser or at desktop? in kubuntu
[10:07] <Alarm> hello. i tried to open an online tv streaming with mplayer (under debian etch) , but somehow i had some problems. i installed the mozilla plugin for mplayer. the problem is that when the video is about to start my system freezes. i cant even restart x , so i need to reset my computer. when i open files localy i dont have problem at all, i only use mplayer actualy
[10:07] <Alarm> is there maybe another player that i could use for what i need ? kaffeine tells me that c"ant open demux"
[10:08] <LjL> i don't think this is a Debian support channel...?
[10:08] <nismo> hi there
[10:08] <Alarm> could be, but i dont think u would find out if i wouldnt mention. so i prefer being honest
[10:09] <Alarm> they both use the same (almost) packages anyway
[10:14] <DraxNS> dialup anyone? smartlink? on feisty?
[10:15] <DraxNS> slmodem.. alsa.. snd-intel.. ati ixp
[10:15] <DraxNS> or shall I just deinstall feisty?
[10:19] <BluesKaj> DraxNS, here's apage that may help with ati ixp sound : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)
[10:20] <BluesKaj> and alsa , of course
[10:20] <DraxNS> it is not sound that bugs me... but modem
[10:20] <DraxNS> it was working on edgy
[10:20] <DraxNS> it is NOT working on feisty
[10:21] <DraxNS> so.. to conlude.... Feisty is NOT for faint harted....
[10:21] <DraxNS> not even for advanced users....
[10:21] <DraxNS> but playground for linux developers
[10:21] <DraxNS> that should be said
[10:22] <BluesKaj> well, i did get fed up like you and went back to edgy , but i eventually bit the bullet and was able to get most things working on feisty....don't give up yet
[10:23] <DraxNS> tooooo much trouble... and it is not wothed
[10:23] <DraxNS> worther
[10:23] <DraxNS> aaahhh
[10:23] <DraxNS> worthed
[10:23] <DraxNS> :-)
[10:23] <BluesKaj> there's gotta be a fix for your modem too
[10:23] <DraxNS> I have not find one yet
[10:23] <DraxNS> and beleive me... I have looked
[10:23] <DraxNS> dont ask google about it... ask me ;-)
[10:25] <DraxNS> bug is reported... while back... I just added my comment today... but it looks like noone is looking at that at all
[10:25] <DraxNS> on forum also... no valid solution
[10:25] <DraxNS> numerous mailing lists... same thing
[10:26] <DraxNS> here... well... I am still asking....
[10:26] <DraxNS> I do not know where else to go.. or who to ask.....
[10:27] <DraxNS> salckware was a dream... in compare to feisty...
[10:31] <inteliwasp> what would be an ideal wireless G card for me to get to run feisty? in pcmcia format...
[10:32] <DraxNS> anything with atheros chipset
[10:34] <l_r> hello
[10:34] <BluesKaj> DraxNS, take alook here, near the bottom of the page  :http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&page=146
[10:34] <l_r> kubuntu and cups server. is there a bug?
[10:34] <l_r> i can't access the server through the kcontrol system
[10:35] <inteliwasp> DraxNS: got any specifics?
[10:35] <l_r> nor from localhost:631 . the authentication fails. any idea?
[10:35] <DraxNS> inteliwasp: nope... sorry
[10:35] <l_r> there must a be a bug, the same it existed in previous versions of ubuntu
[10:36] <DraxNS> BluesKaj: that was not for me... that link? it is about broadcom wifi...
[10:37] <BluesKaj> bummer..
[10:37] <DraxNS> :-)
[10:38] <BluesKaj> I thot your wifi was connecting to the net thru dialup
[10:39] <DraxNS> noooo
[10:39] <DraxNS> and I have rt61 not broadcom
[10:39] <DraxNS> :-)
[10:39] <DraxNS> and it works :-)
[10:40] <sa> hey everyone
[10:41] <BluesKaj> I thot you may have a modem driver problem
[10:41] <sa> anybody that is familiar with bittornado?
[10:42] <Graham> I use Ktorrent for all my piracy needs
[10:43] <sa> Graham: ok
[10:43] <Graham> I am against piracy.
[10:43] <Graham> Shouldn't shoot at other people's boats.
[10:44] <sa> Graham: haha
[10:45] <sercik> Hi! is normal if i overclock i can't load powernow_k8 nodule?
[10:45] <sercik> i always let C&Q enabled in bios
[10:45] <Graham> Yes.
[10:46] <sercik> Graham: speak with me?
[10:47] <arathald> can anyone help me set up a pptp VPN connection in ubuntu? I've been trying to use pptpconfig, but it keeps saying that it "Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP"
[10:47] <Graham> You're not being blocked by firewall are you?
[10:49] <arathald> Graham: you mean on my side or on the VPN server side?
[10:49] <Graham> Either.
[10:51] <arathald> Graham: not on the server side, im not sure about this side, im not entirely sure what that would do or how i would tell
[10:51] <BlueBird22> can any one tell any good linux distro specialy build for flash drives ( changing pc and hardware) supported by a good package manager like ubuntu has (for updates and apps).which has kde in it?
[10:53] <Alarm> kaffeine cant handle some urls. when i try to open some links from here: http://wwitv.com/portal.htm i get a demux error and that it cant open the connect.gif file. but once i enter the url manualy on the player it opens the stream
[10:53] <Alarm> how can i fix that
[10:55] <BlueBird22> ?
[10:59] <sercik> i have deleted a file under /etc/init.d how can i find package that install it again?
[11:01] <nuu> sercik: what file was it ?
[11:01] <sercik> cpufreqd
[11:02] <nuu> dpkg -S /etc/init.d/cpufreq
[11:02] <sercik> i thought that reinstalling cpufreqd package it recreate
[11:02] <nuu> dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd
[11:02] <sercik> not found
[11:03] <nuu> what's the output of the dpkg -S i gave you ?
[11:03] <sercik> this solution doesn't works
[11:03] <sercik> not found
[11:03] <nuu> sure the name was "/etc/init.d/cpufreq" ?
[11:03] <nuu> and not cpufreqd ?
[11:03] <sercik> "/etc/init.d/cpufreq not found"
[11:03] <sercik> yes was cpufreqd
[11:04] <nuu> dpkg -l "*cpufreq*"
[11:05] <sercik> it print four packages!
[11:05] <sercik> i reinstall all of them?
[11:05] <nuu> what are their names ?
[11:05] <BluesKaj> cpufreqd
[11:05] <sercik> cpufreqd cpufrequtils libcpufreq0 xfce4-cpufreq-
[11:05] <sercik> Hi BluesKaj!
[11:05] <nuu> sudo dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd
[11:06] <nuu> see if the file is now restored.
[11:06] <luis> sudo br2684
[11:06] <luis> xD
[11:06] <BluesKaj> hi sercik
[11:06] <sercik> is exactly the package that can't be installed because of lack of cpufreqd file
[11:06] <sercik> i have tried to install cpufreqd and it want cpufreqd under /ertc/init.d
[11:07] <nuu> what are the codes to the left, when you did dpkg -l ?
[11:07] <nuu> "ii", "rc", or what ?
[11:07] <nuu> it's important that you only consider "ii"
[11:07] <nuu> do this: dpkg -l "*cpufreq*" | grep ii
[11:07] <sercik> in fact cpufreqd is not completely installed it give an error at the end of installation
[11:08] <sercik> iF  cpufreqd       2.1.1-1
[11:08] <sercik> i tought that cpufreqd creates that file under /etc/init.d, but it search for...
[11:08] <nuu> sudo apt-get install --reisntall cpufreqd
[11:09] <nuu> sorry, --reinstall
[11:09] <nuu> typo
[11:09] <sercik> is not possible to install!
[11:09] <sercik> if fails because don't find that file!
[11:10] <sercik> can you send me that file?
[11:10] <sercik> someone here use edgy??
[11:10] <nuu> sercik: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure cpufreqd" should work though
[11:11] <nuu> the file should be recreated
[11:11] <mado> oy guys ... hello
[11:11] <sercik> it tells: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: cpufreqd  rovinato o non completamente installato
[11:11] <BluesKaj> whynot just sudo apt-get install cpufreqd
[11:11] <sercik> cpufreqd is damaged or not competely installed
[11:11] <nuu> sercik: sudo apt-get remove cpufreqd
[11:11] <nuu> and then, sudo apt-get install cpufreqd
[11:12] <nuu> try that way...
[11:12] <mado> i am sorry ... english isn't my mother-tongue ... but i'd also need some help please
[11:12] <nuu> !at | mado
[11:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about at - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:12] <sercik> you don't understand!
[11:12] <nuu> hm
[11:12] <nuu> at is austria ?
[11:12] <sercik> i can't do install or uninstall
[11:12] <sercik> dpkg gives an error about that files
[11:12] <mado> yeah ... at is austria ...
[11:12] <nuu> mado: so you speak german ?
[11:13] <sercik> that files is not provided from cpufreqd package
[11:13] <mado> yeah ... but most germans / austrians and swiss can't help me at the moment ... it is around 11:15 pm in this countries
[11:14] <mado> i'll try to explain my problem into english ... it will also help me to improve my english skills *smiling*
[11:14] <BluesKaj> :)
[11:14] <nuu> sercik: apt-get install -f cpufreqd ... running out of ideas
[11:14] <mado> today i plugged in a microphone in my computer ...
[11:15] <Graham> mado: You'd be terrific at parties.
[11:15] <mado> Graham, -> why?
[11:15] <BluesKaj> mado, line in ?
[11:15] <mado> yup
 today i plugged in a microphone in my computer ...
[11:15] <mado> ??
[11:15] <BluesKaj> or mic in on th front
[11:15] <Graham> That's like the most uninteresting thing I've ever read :P
[11:16] <mado> yeah ... so what? ... i am sorry ... i am not a native speaker
[11:16] <mado> i tried to phone a friend via skype and it worked fine ...
[11:16] <xorl> hey
[11:16] <mado> but now when i tried it again ... it doesn't work ... and i don't know why
[11:16] <xorl> any of you run XGL on KDE? with xinerama?
[11:16] <xorl> i got +xinerama on the end of the Xgl line
[11:16] <xorl> but it's not working.
[11:16] <l_r> damn . i can't admininstrate the cups server in any way. it refuses to login. any idea?
[11:16] <mado> do you guys have an idea?
[11:17] <bky> i need FreeImage (and it's devel) but i can't find it in the repos. is it in them, if so what is the package name?
[11:17] <mado> *is waiting*
[11:18] <Graham> mado: Does it still work with skype?
[11:18] <mado> no ... it doesn't work ...
[11:18] <mado> i tried skype test service ... it worked for some seconds ... then it stopped suddenly
[11:19] <mado> it sometimes looks like the microphone has it's own will ...
[11:19] <mado> sometimes it works ... sometimes nothing works
[11:19] <Graham> Loose connection?
[11:19] <mado> no ... the internet connection was stable
[11:20] <mado> the microphone didn't got plugged out or something
[11:22] <BluesKaj> mado, could be a bad mic connector ...twist it around a fwew times and hold in at the same time
[11:23] <mado> huh? ... how should that help? ... i'm not sure i understood your suggestion correctly
[11:24] <BluesKaj> sometimes there oxidation on the sound card plugins ..i know from experience
[11:24] <sercik> move the cable and the jackl while it's inserted
[11:25] <nuu> sercik: join #ubuntu-it in order to speak italian for your questinos
[11:25] <BluesKaj> wifes's pc is 8 yrs old  ...sometimes contact cleaner can do wonders for all pc connections on it
[11:26] <sercik> i'm not speaking italian!! what do you mean?
[11:26] <xorl> lol
[11:26] <nuu> i mean it may help you to speak italian ;)
[11:26] <BluesKaj> prego :)
[11:26] <sercik> i don't understand!
[11:27] <sercik> no problem...
[11:27] <nuu> sercik: se non riesci a risolvere in inglese, prova parlando in italiano su #ubuntu-it :)
[11:27] <nuu> that's all i'm saying!
[11:28] <Alarm> how can i change the way kaffeine handles the stream urls?  when i press on a link it cant open the stream, it tries to open a .gif file . but it works when i manualy try to open the url
[11:28] <mado> i'll be back
[11:29] <sercik> ah ok
[11:29] <sercik> but in this chanell there are more good people
[11:29] <sercik> i have solved however
[11:30] <sercik> i have tried a good boy that have send me the dile!
[11:30] <nuu> sercik: the italian community is an excellent one
[11:30] <carlos> buenas?
[11:30] <sercik> nuu i prefer english so i can speak english and i can train my english
[11:30] <nuu> ok, your call
[11:30] <carlos> espaol
[11:30] <carlos> ola
[11:30] <sercik> here i have always solved my problems
[11:31] <sercik> not always but often
[11:32] <Daisuke_Ido> !es | carlos
[11:32] <ubotu> carlos: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[11:32] <xorl> how do i disable that shift+delete command crap?
[11:38] <soulrider_> this is gonna sound stupid, but does anyone know if i can disconnect my ps2 keyboard and connect a new one and expect it to work? (thats with the power on)
[11:38] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> Greetings
[11:38] <soulrider_> hi ZaphodBeeblebrox
[11:38] <soulrider_> long name:P
[11:38] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> Heh.I can't get my microphone to work. Tried everything I've could find.
[11:38] <soulrider> that sucks
[11:38] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> long but cool
[11:38] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> :)
[11:38] <soulrider> i could never get teamspeak to work for me
[11:39] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> you tell me I can't speak to my boss on Skype
[11:39] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> and he's getting a little nervous about it
[11:39] <PhinnFort> ZaphodBeeblebrox: can you use your microphone in other programs?
[11:39] <PhinnFort> audacity, krec, etc?
[11:39] <PhinnFort> !info krec
[11:39] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> let me check sound recorder
[11:39] <ubotu> krec: sound recorder utility for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 352 kB, installed size 1056 kB
[11:40] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> nope
[11:40] <PhinnFort> no sound?
[11:40] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> nothing work
[11:40] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> no
[11:40] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> no sound
[11:40] <PhinnFort> ZaphodBeeblebrox: does it work in e. g. windows?
[11:40] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> yes
[11:40] <PhinnFort> so it's the right plug
[11:40] <PhinnFort> ;)
[11:40] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> heh
[11:41] <PhinnFort> click once on the little speaker down right, and select "mixers"
[11:42] <PhinnFort> then on input, make sure the mic is glowing red
[11:42] <PhinnFort> or, actually the led over the mic
[11:42] <PhinnFort> also, look under switches and check that the right mic input is selected, in case you have several mics
[11:42] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> oh just a sec please
[11:42] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> somethings happening
[11:42] <PhinnFort> heh
[11:43] <Daisuke_Ido> ZaphodBeeblebrox: don't worry, that feeling is completely normal, it's just your brains deciding they need to close something off from the rest.
[11:43] <PhinnFort> heh
[11:44] <bky> i need FreeImage (and it's devel) but i can't find it in the repos. is it in them, if so what is the package name?
[11:45] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> Thanks a lot guys, but that was weird: I've actually had to unplug the mic and plug it again
[11:46] <fladd> hi there
[11:46] <fladd> can anyone tell me, how to see the chat history in kopete?
[11:46] <PhinnFort> ZaphodBeeblebrox: something probably detected a mic was inserted and made the necessary adjustments
[11:46] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> :) I really have to go now talk to my bass bbl
[11:46] <PhinnFort> fladd: if the plugin is enabled, right click on a contact and select history
[11:46] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> Thanks agaion guys
[11:46] <PhinnFort> ZaphodBeeblebrox: glhf;)
[11:46] <ZaphodBeeblebrox> /window close
[11:46] <fladd> PhinnFort: where to download that plugin?
[11:47] <PhinnFort> fladd: you shuld already have it installed
[11:47] <PhinnFort> fladd: look under the settings menu
[11:47] <fladd> PhinnFort: Mmh
[11:47] <flami> Hi , Im trying to get DSDT running to fix acpi , but im not too sure if the custom tables are actually loaded :/ where could ic heck that ?
[11:48] <fladd> PhinnFort: oh yeah, it is enabled, but there is no such entry in the context menu of a contact
[11:48] <DraxNS> dialup anyone? smartlink? on feisty?
[11:48] <PhinnFort> fladd: I have the equivalent of "show history" (in norwegian)
[11:48] <fladd> PhinnFort: but it seems to me that this plugin is only for showing the last few sentences in a new chatwindow
[11:49] <PhinnFort> fladd: not only that
[11:49] <PhinnFort> fladd: it records everything you say, and you can use that info in different ways
[11:49] <Daisuke_Ido> say...  blackmail.
[11:50] <PhinnFort> http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/screenshots/skjermbilde5.png
[11:51] <fladd> PhinnFort: that is strange! i do not have this context menu entry. and i also do not have a log folder in .kde/share/apps/kopete. really strange
[11:51] <PhinnFort> i have three plugins enabled: history, statistics and now listening
[11:52] <DraxNS> fladd: enable history in kopete settings
[11:52] <fladd> DraxNS: I have the "history" plugin ticked
[11:52] <PhinnFort> fladd: you need to have recorded some history too, obviously
[11:52] <DraxNS> not just plugin... but within kopete settings
[11:52] <PhinnFort> fladd: it only records when activated
[11:53] <PhinnFort> DraxNS: ?
[11:53] <fladd> PhinnFort: yeah, i use kopete every day, with icq, msn and yabber
[11:53] <DraxNS> ahh that is NOT chat history??
[11:53] <fladd> jabber i mean
[11:53] <DraxNS> sorry
[11:53] <PhinnFort> fladd: have you had the plugin enabled before?
[11:53] <PhinnFort> brb
[11:53] <fladd> sure
[11:54] <Solarus> evening
[11:54] <Dragnslcr> fladd- do you have the "show history in new chat window" option checked?
[11:55] <fladd> Dragnslcr: no, not that option (since i don't want that particular feature of the history) but the plugin that entails that option is ticked
[11:55] <Dragnslcr> fladd- try turning on that option and see if messages start getting logged
[11:56] <fladd> okay...that would be a bug however
[11:56] <Dragnslcr> I tried searching the bug database for reports about it, but I didn't see anything at first glance
[11:56] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I'd think that should be a bug
[11:57] <subsonic_> hey guys
[11:57] <subsonic_> I want to setup dual booting with XP and Kubuntu
[11:57] <subsonic_> what do you think is the best way to do it? install xp first or kubuntu?
[11:58] <fladd> xp first
[11:59] <Jack3> how do i use katapult
[11:59] <fladd> Jack3: alt+space
[11:59] <Jack3> who this is sweeet
[12:01] <eguzkia> hello someone here have used ANON-PROXY package?
[12:01] <eguzkia> i have installed it, but i cannot run it!
[12:03] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: what do you mean?
[12:03] <Levi-> Question
[12:03] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: I've used TOR, and I've set up a CGI proxy
[12:03] <PhinnFort> !question
[12:03] <Levi-> lol I know that one.. Just ask =P
[12:03] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:03] <eguzkia> PhinnFort: i have installed anon-proxy but when i try to run it, i received an error
[12:03] <Levi-> Beat the bot
[12:03] <PhinnFort> !info anon-proxy
[12:03] <Levi-> Anyway
[12:03] <ubotu> anon-proxy: Proxy to surf the web anonymously. In component universe, is optional. Version 00.02.39-8.2 (feisty), package size 119 kB, installed size 340 kB
[12:03] <eguzkia> JAP
[12:04] <PhinnFort> Levi-: that's why I made my own bot, but since ubotu still lives, he isn't allowed on board;)
[12:04] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: what kind of error?
[12:04] <Levi-> Whats a logical error on Device fd0 during booting without the splash screen mean excatly? Whats device fd0?
[12:04] <PhinnFort> Levi-: floppy
[12:04] <Levi-> i dont have on
[12:04] <Levi-> e
[12:05] <PhinnFort> Levi-: well, that's your logical error;)
[12:05] <os2mac> !grub
[12:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:05] <Levi-> lol
[12:05] <eguzkia> PhinnFort: No Listener Interface spezified!
[12:05] <Levi-> it ups bootin from live cd a few good minutes
[12:05] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: have you configured it?
[12:05] <Levi-> but.. I turned off acpi and everything just orked
[12:05] <Levi-> *worked
[12:05] <Levi-> So i guess no further help is needed! lol
[12:05] <PhinnFort> Levi-: ACPI is rather not good
[12:06] <PhinnFort> buggy uxzw
[12:06] <PhinnFort> *uzw
[12:06] <Levi-> to turn off?
[12:06] <Levi-> or use?
[12:06] <eguzkia> PhinnFort: how
[12:06] <PhinnFort> Levi-: no, turn off is good, since ACPI is buggy;)
[12:06] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: you ask me?
[12:06] <eguzkia> PhinnFort: i don't think
[12:06] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: it's you who installed it
[12:06] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:06] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: what do you want to do?
[12:07] <eguzkia> PhinnFort: i'd like try to surf in anon mode
[12:07] <Levi-> clearly
[12:07] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: try TOR
[12:07] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: it's very anonymous, but a bit slow
[12:08] <Levi-> Justas X as starting to come up I got BUG soft *something i cant remember here* on CPU#0 and my compy hung
[12:08] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TOR
[12:08] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: if you want help setting up TOR and configuring your apps to use it, just ask me
[12:08] <eguzkia> ok
[12:08] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: but I don't know about that anon-proxy thingy, sorry
[12:08] <PhinnFort> eguzkia: probably a config file in /etc/ that needs setting up
[12:08] <PhinnFort> Levi-: with ACPI?
[12:08] <eguzkia> ok
[12:09] <Levi-> without
[12:09] <PhinnFort> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)
[12:09] <Levi-> Right now I need to know how i can save the old Linux data I still have on the drive i want to install to
[12:09] <PhinnFort> Levi-: how is it partitioned?
[12:10] <Levi-> waait no.. the installers hanging on the partitioner scanner...
[12:10] <Levi-> *partition
[12:10] <Levi-> well see in a minute
[12:10] <Levi-> I dont remember
[12:10] <Levi-> im currently on my laptop
[12:10] <Levi-> installing Kubuntu 7 on my desktop
[12:10] <PhinnFort> Levi-: do you have your /home dir on a separate partition?
[12:10] <Levi-> it was a slave
[12:11] <PhinnFort> Levi-: you just need to back up /home to something to have all your settings and documents
[12:11] <Levi-> So no there was no home folder on it
[12:11] <PhinnFort> Levi-: when I switched from Gentoo to Kubuntu, I just kept my /home folder, and I hardly noticed the change;)
[12:11] <Levi-> No no.. listen
[12:12] <PhinnFort> Levi-: you always have a /home folder
[12:12] <Levi-> I had two drives one as master and slave, Master had Kubuntu 6 on it and recently fried so im trying to install 7 onto my slave.
[12:12] <PhinnFort> Levi-: and your slave doesn't have the /home folder?
[12:12] <Levi-> No
[12:12] <Levi-> Thats why i ask
[12:12] <PhinnFort> hrm
[12:12] <PhinnFort> Levi-: well, all your settings and documents are stored in /home
[12:12] <Levi-> hat partiton holds data
[12:13] <Levi-> *what
[12:13] <PhinnFort> Levi-: that depends on how you set it up
[12:13] <Levi-> Not really when you use your secondary drive to hold 4 gbs of music
[12:13] <Levi-> Well
[12:13] <Levi-> to use my secondary i formatted it to ext3
[12:13] <PhinnFort> Levi-: secondary?
[12:13] <PhinnFort> slave?
[12:14] <Levi-> Yes
[12:14] <Levi-> Sorry.
[12:14] <PhinnFort> it's okay, it's just getting a bit late
[12:14] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:14] <Levi-> WAKE UP I NEED YOUR GENIUS
[12:14] <Levi-> lo
[12:14] <Levi-> l
[12:14] <PhinnFort> Levi-: :P
[12:14] <Levi-> GAH