[01:21] <Riddell> launchpad dudes: why can't I create new admins in kubuntu-members team (I'm an admin)
[01:31] <Fermat> hi! Is there a way to delete from launchpad a branch that I've just created?
[01:47] <thumper> Fermat: no not yet
[01:48] <Fermat> I've just read a bug report on launchpad and a comment suggested to contact the admins...
[08:28] <sacater> THANK YOU, for fixing the 'search all questions' bug
[08:28] <sacater> :D
[08:30] <Hobbsee> i know you're nto :P
[08:34] <jamesh> Hobbsee: stub might be able to help.  What's the problem?
[08:34] <Hobbsee> jamesh: Riddell was asking earlier today - he cant seem to add more administrators to a team, if he's not the owner
[08:35] <Hobbsee> jamesh: a) is this deliberate, and b)  can we get the owner of the team changed or something?
[08:35] <jamesh> Hobbsee: is he an administrator of the team?
[08:35] <Hobbsee> yes
[08:35] <jamesh> that is weird.
[08:35] <stub> Sounds like a regression
[08:36] <jamesh> I think all the team admins are meant to be able to do that
[08:36] <jamesh> Hobbsee: what team?
[08:36] <Hobbsee> that's what i would have thought
[08:36] <Hobbsee> jamesh: kubuntu-members
[08:36] <stub> salgado would know if it was deliberate, so a bug should be opened.
[08:36] <Hobbsee> (he's trying to make me an admin as well)
[08:37] <stub> If I change the owner of the team, then the Ubuntu Community Council lose rights over maintaining that team.
[08:38] <Hobbsee> hmm.  they cant maintain it as an admin or something?  it must be the owner, i guess
[08:38] <stub> Shouldn't the council be doing this?
[08:39] <jamesh> team memberships are meant to be editable by the team's administrators
[08:40] <stub> But this is appointing a new administrator
[08:40] <jamesh> if team administrators aren't allowed to do that, what are they for?
[08:41] <stub> If it is deliberate that only owners can appoint administrators (may well be - I forget the lengthy and tedious discussions we had on this - I'm sure it is buried in a spec somewhere), giving riddell the rights to appoint new admins might be stepping on the councils toes.
[08:42] <stub> team administrators can approve normal membership, deactivate members (including other admins for security reasons IIRC), etc.
[08:43] <stub> Ideal way of solving this from my POV is for riddell to send a GPG signed email requesting the change to one of the council members, and a bug opened on the issue so salgado can confirm it or reject it.
[08:48] <Hobbsee> stub: no idea, we only found out this morning.
[08:49] <Hobbsee> stub: so you want a mail from riddell about "please add hobbsee as an admin"
[08:53] <stub> Hobbsee: hang on - trying a back channel.
[08:57] <stub> Hobbsee: I've got a cc member to confirm it is ok so I can do it once Riddell is online
[08:58] <Hobbsee> stub: okay
[08:59] <stub> Hobbsee: Change of plans. kubuntu-council is going to become the owner of kubuntu-members, so you will actually end up an owner and able to apoint your own administrators if you like.
[09:01] <stub> Hobbsee: Done. You should now have all the rights you need.
[09:01] <stub> (as will  other  k-c members)
[09:03] <stub> Hobbsee: I'll leave it up to you and Riddell to decide if the ubuntu-council should retain their admin rights or membership :-)
[09:04] <Hobbsee> stub: thankyou :)
[09:04] <Hobbsee> stub: hehe :)
[10:15] <Riddell> hi stub 
[10:16] <Riddell> thanks for changing that
[10:16] <Hobbsee> mornign Riddell 
[10:17] <Riddell> would be nice if the team pages said why I couldn't set admins
[10:20] <stub> Riddell: File a bug if you have time
[10:20] <stub> np
[10:30] <ubotu> New bug: #118207 in launchpad "should document why admins can't create admins" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118207
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #118211 in malone "Openoffice dies when connecting through JDBC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118211
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #118220 in soyuz "some archive directories have excessively open permissions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118220
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #118227 in soyuz "main/debian-installer missing from Release files" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118227
[04:11] <phrixos> afternoono
[04:12] <phrixos> is there any way i can get more detail about why the squid 3 main branch is failing to be imported into launchpad from upstream cvs?
[04:23] <salgado> ddaa, can you help phrixos?
[04:35] <mwhudson> salgado: ddaa is not feeling well, i can take a look though
[04:44] <mwhudson> phrixos: i don't know, i'm rerunning the import and then i'll have a better answer for you
[04:44] <phrixos> cool, thanks very much
[04:45] <mwhudson> it may take quite a while...
[04:46] <phrixos> heh, yeah, i can imagine
[04:47] <mwhudson> what i'm saying is that if you try to remember to bug me about it say on monday, that reduces the chance of this being forgotten :)
[04:48] <phrixos> right!
[04:49] <phrixos> ok, i'll make a note and bug you later
[04:49] <phrixos> thanks :)
[04:51] <mwhudson> np
[05:36] <ubotu> New bug: #118270 in launchpad "spec search does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118270
[05:37] <mwhudson> phrixos: this is the problem with squid: https://help.launchpad.net/VcsImportRequests#head-9c041fe20f4e92bc3f012d6da39500ec802d89fd
[06:08] <phrixos> mwhudson: just got that -- thanks a lot for looking
[06:09] <mwhudson> phrixos: i should have looked on that page first really
[06:10] <mwhudson> some obscure CVS detail, no idea on the details myself
[06:10] <phrixos> yeah, i'm not that familiar with CVS
[06:11] <phrixos> guess i'll have to import the current state into a local branch by hand rather than being lazy
[06:11] <phrixos> oh well
[06:19] <mwhudson> i am very happy that i've forgotten most of the things i knew about cvs
[06:19] <phrixos> heh, me too
[06:19] <phrixos> we mainly use svn at work, although i'm currently looking at bzr for various things
[07:36] <ubotu> New bug: #118284 in launchpad-answers "Incorrect URL translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118284
[08:06] <ubotu> New bug: #118289 in blueprint "location of "Needs guidance" checkbox is odd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118289
[08:56] <Toastie_> Question - Is there a standard procedure to send Launchpad-made translations upstream?
[09:20] <kiko-fud> Toastie_, not a really /standard/ one but there is a process many people follow. check with danilos and carlos (when the latter is around :)
[09:21] <Toastie_> thanks
[09:21] <danilos> Toastie_: most translators are in contact with upstreams directly (well, we've got a lot of upstream translators also working in Launchpad)
[09:22] <Toastie_> well, I've just manually submitted gnome-mount.po to gnome's bugzilla; hope it's ok
[09:22] <danilos> Toastie_: in general, they'd advise you to use Launchpad only as a PO editing tool, and then you can submit your PO files using upstream's regular rules
[09:22] <danilos> Toastie_: sure, for GNOME in particular, I suggest you file a bug against 'l10n' product and appropriate language component, so it's handled by the translation team, not by gnome-mount maintainers
[09:23] <Toastie_> but those POs automatically go to Ubuntu's distro, right?
[09:23] <danilos> Toastie_: yeah, they get automatically into Ubuntu, if you've translated Ubuntu package
[09:55] <bdmurray> hello? I was looking at bug 45315 and it's log looks odd to me
[09:55] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 45315 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12 "madwifi makes the system crash" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45315
[09:55] <bdmurray> the activity log shows it being assigned to a different product
[09:58] <pochu> bdmurray: it was assigned to the lrm Ubuntu package, and tepsipakki rejected the Ubuntu task
[10:02] <bdmurray> pochu: right but it says lrm-2.6.15-15-powerpc and it isn't listed under that product
[10:06] <pochu> bdmurray: Oh, I see. Looks like a bug, right?
[10:07] <bdmurray> pochu: yeah, unless I am missing something
[10:24] <bdmurray> kiko: do you have any thoughts on bug 45315 and it's classification / activity log?
[10:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 45315 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12 "madwifi makes the system crash" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/45315
[10:24] <kiko> let's see
[10:25] <bdmurray> the activity log shows it going to one package but it is under another
[10:26] <kiko> bdmurray, I think the activity log doesn't capture changes in that
[10:26] <kiko> the activity log is pretty broken
[10:26] <kiko> but BjornT has scheduled time to improve it this cycle
[10:27] <bdmurray> okay, thanks for looking
[11:16] <bdmurray> Is there a way to search bugs commented on by a specific launchpad user?
[11:16] <bdmurray> i.e. they aren't subscribed or assigned to the bug?
[11:17] <kiko> bdmurray, no, there's not.
[11:17] <kiko> bdmurray, you can search through the mailing list archives.. 
[11:17] <bdmurray> kiko: there are no archives now
[11:18] <kiko> !
[11:18] <kiko> somebody's very large mbox then
[11:18] <pochu> bdmurray: or you can see his subscribed bugs, as long as he has subscribed to the bugs he's commented on :)
[11:18] <bdmurray> kiko: actually mine seems large enough
[11:19] <bdmurray> I ask because I found somebody who made an unhelpful comment and didn't subscribe or assign themselves to the bug.  I wanted to make sure they didn't taint any other bugs.
[11:23] <LaserJock> kiko: quick question, how feasible would it be to add to a person's +packages page a list of uploads they've sponsored
[11:24] <LaserJock> kiko: essential list uploads where the person has signed the .changes but aren't in Changed-By:
[11:24] <kiko> bdmurray, "unhelpful", eh?
[11:24] <kiko> LaserJock, hmm
[11:24] <kiko> cprov-afk, do you store that?
[11:25] <LaserJock> I think who signed the package is being stored now
[11:25] <LaserJock> since that's sort of an important thing to know
[11:26] <LaserJock> in MOTU we sponsor so much it's helpful to know when it comes time for people to go for membership, MOTU or core-dev what they've sponsored
[11:26] <bdmurray> kiko: I was trying to be nice
[11:26] <kiko> bdmurray, at least somebody makes that effort.
[11:27] <LaserJock> some people put way to much effort into "unhelpful" comments ;-)
[11:48] <ec1> Hi HampusW
[11:48] <HampusW> hi
[11:48] <ec1> Hi all.
[11:49] <HampusW> Anyone here that knows how rosetta works?
[11:49] <ec1> Is anyone there here in charge of Rosetta review process ?
[11:53] <bdmurray> kiko: it is challenging sometimes