=== zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@ubuntu/member/ryanakca] has joined #launchpad === Trickser [n=sergio@p57B3DC4F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #launchpad [01:21] launchpad dudes: why can't I create new admins in kubuntu-members team (I'm an admin) === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad [01:31] hi! Is there a way to delete from launchpad a branch that I've just created? [01:47] Fermat: no not yet [01:48] I've just read a bug report on launchpad and a comment suggested to contact the admins... === tokj [n=tk@unaffiliated/tokj] has joined #launchpad === caravena_ [n=caravena@60-152-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #launchpad === BFTD [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.216.221.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #launchpad === merriam_ [n=merriam@85-211-245-180.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === beuno [n=martin@ubuntu/member/beuno] has joined #launchpad === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@203-113-250-169-static.TAS.netspace.net.au] has joined #launchpad === GnuKemist is now known as OgMaciel === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #launchpad === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === GnuKemist [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad === GnuKemist is now known as OgMaciel === jml [n=jml@121.44.221.16] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad === OGDA [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.216.221.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #launchpad === OGDA is now known as BFTD === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.13.29.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel is now known as GnuKemist === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kubrick.freenode.net === SteveA [n=steve@canonical/launchpad/SteveA] has joined #launchpad === joejaxx [i=joejaxx@alpha.joejaxx.net] has joined #launchpad [08:28] THANK YOU, for fixing the 'search all questions' bug [08:28] :D === Hobbsee wonders if there's any launchpad admins here === sacater dosnt raise his hand :P [08:30] i know you're nto :P [08:34] Hobbsee: stub might be able to help. What's the problem? [08:34] jamesh: Riddell was asking earlier today - he cant seem to add more administrators to a team, if he's not the owner [08:35] jamesh: a) is this deliberate, and b) can we get the owner of the team changed or something? [08:35] Hobbsee: is he an administrator of the team? [08:35] yes === allenap [n=allenap@212.233.37.33] has joined #launchpad [08:35] that is weird. [08:35] Sounds like a regression [08:36] I think all the team admins are meant to be able to do that [08:36] Hobbsee: what team? [08:36] that's what i would have thought [08:36] jamesh: kubuntu-members [08:36] salgado would know if it was deliberate, so a bug should be opened. [08:36] (he's trying to make me an admin as well) [08:37] If I change the owner of the team, then the Ubuntu Community Council lose rights over maintaining that team. [08:38] hmm. they cant maintain it as an admin or something? it must be the owner, i guess [08:38] Shouldn't the council be doing this? [08:39] team memberships are meant to be editable by the team's administrators [08:40] But this is appointing a new administrator [08:40] if team administrators aren't allowed to do that, what are they for? [08:41] If it is deliberate that only owners can appoint administrators (may well be - I forget the lengthy and tedious discussions we had on this - I'm sure it is buried in a spec somewhere), giving riddell the rights to appoint new admins might be stepping on the councils toes. [08:42] team administrators can approve normal membership, deactivate members (including other admins for security reasons IIRC), etc. [08:43] Ideal way of solving this from my POV is for riddell to send a GPG signed email requesting the change to one of the council members, and a bug opened on the issue so salgado can confirm it or reject it. === superm1 [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad [08:48] stub: no idea, we only found out this morning. === superm1_ is now known as superm1 [08:49] stub: so you want a mail from riddell about "please add hobbsee as an admin" [08:53] Hobbsee: hang on - trying a back channel. [08:57] Hobbsee: I've got a cc member to confirm it is ok so I can do it once Riddell is online [08:58] stub: okay [08:59] Hobbsee: Change of plans. kubuntu-council is going to become the owner of kubuntu-members, so you will actually end up an owner and able to apoint your own administrators if you like. [09:01] Hobbsee: Done. You should now have all the rights you need. [09:01] (as will other k-c members) [09:03] Hobbsee: I'll leave it up to you and Riddell to decide if the ubuntu-council should retain their admin rights or membership :-) [09:04] stub: thankyou :) [09:04] stub: hehe :) === mrevell [n=matthew@canonical/launchpad/mrevell] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === bigjools [n=bigjools@canonical/launchpad/bigjools] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad [10:15] hi stub [10:16] thanks for changing that [10:16] mornign Riddell [10:17] would be nice if the team pages said why I couldn't set admins [10:20] Riddell: File a bug if you have time [10:20] np === meduxa [n=agustin@213.231.80.16.static.user.ono.com] has joined #launchpad [10:30] New bug: #118207 in launchpad "should document why admins can't create admins" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118207 === lionel [n=lionel@ip-61.net-82-216-103.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #launchpad [11:15] New bug: #118211 in malone "Openoffice dies when connecting through JDBC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118211 === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4408f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-234.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #launchpad === oojah [n=roger@cpc1-nott6-0-0-cust436.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@121-72-131-30.dsl.telstraclear.net] has joined #launchpad === sabdf1 [n=sabdfl@yttrium.canonical.com] has joined #launchpad === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-234.dial.nortenet.pt] has left #launchpad ["Saindo"] [12:40] New bug: #118220 in soyuz "some archive directories have excessively open permissions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118220 === bluekuja [n=andy@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #launchpad === provetza [n=provetza@195.251.166.201] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=behnam@213.207.210.231] has joined #launchpad === bluekuja_laptop [n=andrea@host130-175.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #launchpad === gianmt [n=gianmt@host154-108-static.187-82-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #launchpad === tsmithe [n=toby@ubuntu/member/tsmithe] has joined #launchpad === pochu [n=emilio@155.Red-88-23-230.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@canonical/launchpad/salgado] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.103.136.168] has joined #launchpad === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #launchpad [01:45] New bug: #118227 in soyuz "main/debian-installer missing from Release files" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118227 === effie_jayx [n=valles@ubuntu/member/effie-jayx] has joined #launchpad === Erik_I [i=d911d92e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/ircatwork.com/x-1cc6ed9f1e630998] has joined #launchpad === tokj_ [n=tk@unaffiliated/tokj] has joined #launchpad === rraphink [n=raphink@wormhole.x-echo.com] has joined #launchpad === tokj_ is now known as tokj === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@canonical/launchpad/matsubara] has joined #launchpad === Prognatus [n=bjorn@2.80-203-143.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@mail.foredil.it] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@ppp-58.8.9.220.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === phanatic_ [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === phanatic__ [n=phanatic@3e70d9f0.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #launchpad === BjornT_ [n=bjorn@213.226.144.3] has joined #launchpad === phanatic__ is now known as phanatic === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable040.144-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === jcs [n=jcspray@dot1x-012.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #launchpad === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #launchpad === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #launchpad === OgMaciel [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@121.44.221.16] has joined #launchpad === phrixos [n=phrixos@gnu/webmaster/phrixos] has joined #launchpad [04:11] afternoono [04:12] is there any way i can get more detail about why the squid 3 main branch is failing to be imported into launchpad from upstream cvs? === Prognatus_ [n=bjorn@2.80-203-143.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad [04:23] ddaa, can you help phrixos? === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #launchpad === bigjools is now known as bigjools-afk [04:35] salgado: ddaa is not feeling well, i can take a look though [04:44] phrixos: i don't know, i'm rerunning the import and then i'll have a better answer for you [04:44] cool, thanks very much [04:45] it may take quite a while... [04:46] heh, yeah, i can imagine [04:47] what i'm saying is that if you try to remember to bug me about it say on monday, that reduces the chance of this being forgotten :) [04:48] right! [04:49] ok, i'll make a note and bug you later [04:49] thanks :) === lfittl_ [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #launchpad === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #launchpad [04:51] np === mthaddon [n=mthaddon@canonical/launchpad/mthaddon] has joined #launchpad === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad === bigjools-afk is now known as bigjools === superm1 is now known as superm1_ === elkbuntu [n=melissa@ppp30-116.lns1.syd6.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === BjornT_ [n=bjorn@213.226.144.3] has joined #launchpad [05:36] New bug: #118270 in launchpad "spec search does not work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118270 === Rinchen [n=joey@canonical/launchpad/rinchen] has joined #launchpad [05:37] phrixos: this is the problem with squid: https://help.launchpad.net/VcsImportRequests#head-9c041fe20f4e92bc3f012d6da39500ec802d89fd === cprov is now known as cprov-lunch === elkbuntu_ [n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu] has joined #launchpad === AndyP_ [n=andyp@cpc3-cwma2-0-0-cust15.swan.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad === ajmitch_ [n=ajmitch@port166-123.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #launchpad === LongPoin1yStick [n=user@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #launchpad === spiv_ [n=andrew@86.228.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #launchpad === Odd_Blok1 [n=oddbloke@compsoc.sunion.warwick.ac.uk] has joined #launchpad === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #launchpad === geser_ [i=mb@ubuntu/member/geser] has joined #launchpad === neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db4408f.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #launchpad === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #launchpad === txwikinger [n=txwiking@sblug/member/txwikinger] has joined #launchpad === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable040.144-201-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === thumper [n=tim@125-236-193-95.adsl.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === exarkun [n=exarkun@intarweb.us] has joined #launchpad === AndyP_ is now known as AndyP === superm1_ [n=superm1@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #launchpad === Odd_Blok1 is now known as Odd_Bloke === GnuKemist [n=omaciel@foresight/developer/OgMaciel] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.103.136.168] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #launchpad === phanatic_ [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #launchpad === danilos [n=danilo@adsl-236-193.eunet.yu] has joined #launchpad [06:08] mwhudson: just got that -- thanks a lot for looking [06:09] phrixos: i should have looked on that page first really [06:10] some obscure CVS detail, no idea on the details myself [06:10] yeah, i'm not that familiar with CVS [06:11] guess i'll have to import the current state into a local branch by hand rather than being lazy [06:11] oh well === phanatic__ [n=phanatic@3e70db63.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #launchpad === bac [n=bac@canonical/launchpad/bac] has joined #launchpad === kiko [n=kiko@canonical/launchpad/pdpc.supporter.active.kiko] has joined #launchpad [06:19] i am very happy that i've forgotten most of the things i knew about cvs [06:19] heh, me too [06:19] we mainly use svn at work, although i'm currently looking at bzr for various things === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #launchpad === flacoste is now known as flacoste_lunch === Watersevenub [n=Watersev@242-186.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@canonical/launchpad/BjornT] has joined #launchpad === phanatic__ is now known as phanatic === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #launchpad === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch === jcs [n=jcspray@dot1x-131.net.ed.ac.uk] has joined #launchpad [07:36] New bug: #118284 in launchpad-answers "Incorrect URL translation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118284 === Spads [n=spacehob@unaffiliated/spads] has joined #launchpad === lionel [n=lionel@ip-61.net-82-216-103.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #launchpad === Kmos [n=gothicx@unaffiliated/kmos] has joined #launchpad === flacoste_lunch is now known as flacoste [08:06] New bug: #118289 in blueprint "location of "Needs guidance" checkbox is odd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118289 === matsubara-lunch is now known as matsubara === bigjools is now known as bigjools-afk === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-071-104.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@canonical/launchpad/cprov] has joined #launchpad === Toastie_ [n=future@bzq-88-154-32-17.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #launchpad [08:56] Question - Is there a standard procedure to send Launchpad-made translations upstream? === welterde [n=welterde@trujillo.srv.pocoo.org] has joined #launchpad === shawarma [n=sh@atlas.linux2go.dk] has joined #launchpad === kiko is now known as kiko-fud [09:20] Toastie_, not a really /standard/ one but there is a process many people follow. check with danilos and carlos (when the latter is around :) [09:21] thanks [09:21] Toastie_: most translators are in contact with upstreams directly (well, we've got a lot of upstream translators also working in Launchpad) [09:22] well, I've just manually submitted gnome-mount.po to gnome's bugzilla; hope it's ok [09:22] Toastie_: in general, they'd advise you to use Launchpad only as a PO editing tool, and then you can submit your PO files using upstream's regular rules [09:22] Toastie_: sure, for GNOME in particular, I suggest you file a bug against 'l10n' product and appropriate language component, so it's handled by the translation team, not by gnome-mount maintainers [09:23] but those POs automatically go to Ubuntu's distro, right? [09:23] Toastie_: yeah, they get automatically into Ubuntu, if you've translated Ubuntu package === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:30:216:36ff:fe17:3cef] has joined #launchpad === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:30:216:36ff:fe17:3cef] has joined #launchpad [09:55] hello? I was looking at bug 45315 and it's log looks odd to me [09:55] Launchpad bug 45315 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12 "madwifi makes the system crash" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45315 [09:55] the activity log shows it being assigned to a different product [09:58] bdmurray: it was assigned to the lrm Ubuntu package, and tepsipakki rejected the Ubuntu task [10:02] pochu: right but it says lrm-2.6.15-15-powerpc and it isn't listed under that product === ddaa [n=david@canonical/launchpad/ddaa] has joined #launchpad [10:06] bdmurray: Oh, I see. Looks like a bug, right? === cprov is now known as cprov-afk [10:07] pochu: yeah, unless I am missing something === kiko-fud is now known as kiko [10:24] kiko: do you have any thoughts on bug 45315 and it's classification / activity log? [10:24] Launchpad bug 45315 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12 "madwifi makes the system crash" [Medium,Unconfirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/45315 [10:24] let's see [10:25] the activity log shows it going to one package but it is under another [10:26] bdmurray, I think the activity log doesn't capture changes in that [10:26] the activity log is pretty broken [10:26] but BjornT has scheduled time to improve it this cycle [10:27] okay, thanks for looking === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #launchpad === Prognatus_ [n=bjorn@2.80-203-143.nextgentel.com] has joined #launchpad [11:16] Is there a way to search bugs commented on by a specific launchpad user? [11:16] i.e. they aren't subscribed or assigned to the bug? [11:17] bdmurray, no, there's not. [11:17] bdmurray, you can search through the mailing list archives.. [11:17] kiko: there are no archives now [11:18] ! [11:18] somebody's very large mbox then [11:18] bdmurray: or you can see his subscribed bugs, as long as he has subscribed to the bugs he's commented on :) [11:18] kiko: actually mine seems large enough [11:19] I ask because I found somebody who made an unhelpful comment and didn't subscribe or assign themselves to the bug. I wanted to make sure they didn't taint any other bugs. [11:23] kiko: quick question, how feasible would it be to add to a person's +packages page a list of uploads they've sponsored [11:24] kiko: essential list uploads where the person has signed the .changes but aren't in Changed-By: [11:24] bdmurray, "unhelpful", eh? [11:24] LaserJock, hmm [11:24] cprov-afk, do you store that? [11:25] I think who signed the package is being stored now [11:25] since that's sort of an important thing to know [11:26] in MOTU we sponsor so much it's helpful to know when it comes time for people to go for membership, MOTU or core-dev what they've sponsored [11:26] kiko: I was trying to be nice [11:26] bdmurray, at least somebody makes that effort. [11:27] some people put way to much effort into "unhelpful" comments ;-) === HampusW [n=hampus@212.31.160.202] has joined #launchpad === ec1 [n=ecology@88-136-181-107.adslgp.cegetel.net] has joined #launchpad [11:48] Hi HampusW [11:48] hi [11:48] Hi all. [11:49] Anyone here that knows how rosetta works? [11:49] Is anyone there here in charge of Rosetta review process ? [11:53] kiko: it is challenging sometimes === jamesh [n=james@canonical/launchpad/jamesh] has joined #launchpad === ec2 [n=ecology@84.4.73.70] has joined #launchpad === HampusW [n=hampus@212.31.160.202] has left #launchpad []