[12:39] <borschty_> ok, filed...
[12:51] <clever[rev] > if i install ubuntu 7.04 in a partition beside windows98 will grub automaticaly have a working option to boot 98 up?
[12:53] <borschty_> this is the channel for ubuntu 7.10
[12:53] <Hobbsee>  /topic
[12:53] <clever> and #ubuntu isnt answering...
[12:53] <clever> nvm
[02:36] <pwuertz> hey... any chance for a backport of qt 4.3 to feisty :) ?
[02:37] <crimsun> ...
[02:39] <RAOF> I'm thinking... unlikely :)
[03:01] <RAOF> From the new linux-source changelog: "Support gcc 5 properly".  What?  Since when has there been a gcc 5?
[05:17] <DanaG> Argh, my Gnome won't start.
[06:19] <DanaG> Is anybody else having issues with Gnome not logging in?
[06:20] <RAOF> I upgraded yesterday, and am not having any problems.
[06:37] <DanaG> ***MEMORY-WARNING***: gconftool-2[7866] : GSlice: g_thread_init() must be called before all other GLib functions; memory corruption due to late invocation of g_thread_init() has been detected; this program is likely to crash, leak or unexpectedly abort soon...
[06:37] <DanaG> I get a helluvalot of THAT message.
[06:38] <DanaG> And hotkeys aren't working.
[06:38] <DanaG> alt-F4 gives ;3S
[06:39] <DanaG> Looks like my gconf schemas are borked .... how do I fix it?
[06:39] <DanaG> (gnome-mouse-properties:8122): capplet-common-WARNING **: Unable to find a default value for key for  desktop/gnome/peripherals/mouse/motion_acceleration.  I'll assume it is an integer, but that may break things.  Please be sure that the associated schema is installed
[06:44] <DanaG> Aargh, nearly ALL of my gconf schemas are missing.
[10:54] <frandavid100> hiya
[10:54] <frandavid100> where can I find a gutsy daily build?
[10:55] <crdlb> frandavid100, unless things have changed in the last day or two, there aren't any
[10:55] <crdlb> the only way to use it is to upgrade from feisty
[10:55] <frandavid100> damn then
[10:56] <crdlb> hmm there seem to be iso's now
[10:56] <crdlb> no idea if they actually work
[10:56] <frandavid100> could you point me to them?
[10:56] <crdlb> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[10:57] <frandavid100> thanks crdlb ^^
[10:57] <frandavid100> see you later guys
[10:57] <frandavid100> thanks for the help!
[11:03] <defcon> is there a new gdesklets for gutsy
[11:06] <defcon> i think gutsy=faster than feisty
[11:09] <spheard> Does anyone know if/when wireless networking with ndiswrapper is going to be fixed in 7.04?
[11:16] <ikonia> Is gusty aiming to use opencompositing ?
[11:16] <Tomcat_> spheard: 7.04 is in #ubuntu
[11:17] <Tomcat_> ikonia: No. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/?searchtext=opencompositing
[11:18] <ikonia> Tomcat_: there is no blueprint
[11:18] <ikonia> I assume it needs a blueprint to be on the roadmap for a release
[11:19] <Tomcat_> If it's a bigger thing, yes.
[11:19] <Tomcat_> If it's just a package/software without integration, it might be done by MOTU.
[11:19] <ikonia> I was curious with berly and compiz merging, opencompositing appears to be the merged product
[11:22] <ikonia> I assume ubuntu will be picking up the merged product at some point
[11:24] <Tomcat_> Mh... I don't know. The website doesn't look as professional as I would assume from beryl or compiz, and there's no definitive info...
[11:25] <ikonia> I agree
[11:25] <ikonia> check the topic in beryl though
[11:25] <ikonia> and your spot on there is no "here it is" style info
[12:10] <Enverex> Has anyone managed to build fglrx against kernel .22?
[12:15] <crimsun> Enverex: won't do much good unless a new version of fglrx is compatible with xorg-server 1.3.
[12:23] <Enverex> crimsun, It is
[12:23] <Enverex> 8.37 is XOrg 1.3 compat
[12:50] <theoros> gutsy gibbon? ahaha, that's awesome. first time i've heard of it's name
[12:52] <Enverex> I hate it but that's because most the names seem silly. That and people keep getting it wrong and saying "Gusty Gibbon" which is even worse
[12:57] <theoros> i thought Feisty Fawn was off the wall
[12:57] <theoros> i was obviously completely ignorant of the gibbon and all his gutsiness
[01:00] <r00tintheb0x> lol@gibbon and all his gutsiness
[01:07] <Enverex> Feisty Fawn sounds very peadophilic
[01:08] <theoros> aaha
[01:08] <theoros> who comes up with these names, exactly?
[01:08] <Enverex> Mental patients
[01:09] <theoros> is there just a small room full of smoke, where weird, old, balding men sit around swapping anecdotes until someone gets inspired?
[01:21] <spheard> I want to know who came up with iceweasel
[01:33] <gnomefreak> spheard: ask in either #ubuntu-offtopic or #debian
[03:50] <bSON> do others than me have problems to run compiz on gutsy with the open-source r300 drivers?
[03:50] <ToHellWithGA> bSON: what problems, specifically?
[03:50] <bSON> for me starting compiz always crashes the whole x server
[03:50] <ToHellWithGA> that, sir, is a problem
[03:51] <ToHellWithGA> i have occasional black screens where things won't resume from screensaver or switching back from a tty
[03:51] <bSON> ToHellWithGA: do you know what could be the problem?
[03:51] <ToHellWithGA> i do not know
[03:52] <ToHellWithGA> bSON: do you get the same behavior with beryl?
[03:52] <crdlb> compiz = beryl
[03:52] <bSON> i haven't tried beryl yet
[03:52] <bSON> one sec
[03:52] <ToHellWithGA> crdlb: have they merged?
[03:52] <bSON> not yet, but they are working on it
[03:53] <DanaG> I fixed my gconf.
[03:53] <bSON> ToHellWithGA: which options do you pass to compiz?
[03:53] <ToHellWithGA> bSON: i'd expect beryl and/or compiz to crash badly if compositing/XGL/AIGLX wasn't enabled
[03:54] <ToHellWithGA> bSON: the only compiz i used was the default "desktop effects" part of the ubuntu-desktop meta-package
[03:54] <ToHellWithGA> i think the direct rendering thing "DRI" has to be on for all those goodies to work
[03:54] <ToHellWithGA> if your drivers support it and it's on, i dunno where to look from there
[03:55] <ToHellWithGA> the #beryl or #compiz or what-have-you guys should be good at troubleshooting that kind of thing
[03:55] <DanaG> Some preferences are still missing, however.
[03:55] <DanaG> find /usr/share/gconf/schemas/ -exec gconftool --install-schema-file {}  \;
[03:56] <DanaG> that's how I reimported all the schemas.
[03:56] <bSON> ToHellWithGA: ok, thanks
[03:57] <DanaG> Now if only I could fix sleep....
[08:54] <ikonia> What is the current kernel release on gusty development ?
[09:27] <LjL> !info linux-generic gutsy | ikonia
[09:27] <ubotu> ikonia: linux-generic: Complete Generic Linux kernel. In component restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.22.5.4 (gutsy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:27] <ikonia> ahh 22 ok
[09:27] <ikonia> excellent
[09:27] <ikonia> thank you
[09:28] <ikonia> worth a try
[09:28] <ikonia> !download
[09:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[09:28] <ikonia> !development
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:28] <ikonia> rats
[09:28] <ompaul> !compile
[09:28] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:29] <ikonia> what are you compiling
[09:29] <ompaul> ikonia, next step from !development
[09:29] <ompaul> :)
[09:29] <ikonia> ha ha ha
[09:30] <ikonia> I submitted a patch to .21 which is supposed ot fix a libata issue, which I thought it did, but apprantly it doesn't, someone has told me that they fixed my fix properly in 22
[09:30] <ikonia> so worth a try
[09:30] <ikonia> so far gusty is the only distro using it
[09:31] <finalbeta> I hope they do fix the libata issues, I can't boot with my CD drive in my laptop.
[09:31] <ikonia> which one
[09:31] <ikonia> there are plenty of libata issues
[09:31] <ikonia> more so after the chance
[09:31] <finalbeta> Ah, probably not that one then.
[09:32] <ikonia> I don't think they have fixed the one I thought I'd fixed, but actually looks like I've broke
[09:32] <joeamined> i think hardware support is the most important thing to improve
[09:32] <finalbeta> I reported it back when Feisty was in beta.
[09:32] <ikonia> joeamined: hardware support is excellent
[09:32] <joeamined> ikonia , no it isn't
[09:32] <finalbeta> I can't understand that large regressions like this are excepted.
[09:32] <ikonia> joeamined: I guess we'll have to disagree on that, I find it good and growing
[09:32] <finalbeta> I work in a PC store. Dapper booted on 80% of the intel laptops at the time, Feisty booted on 10%
[09:33] <ikonia> ahh you mean support against legacy kit with the new libata devices
[09:33] <finalbeta> Even old laptops, Dell insprirons, business models, feisty doesn't boot aymore
[09:33] <finalbeta> ikonia: even new laptops, dapper has a better change of booting
[09:33] <joeamined> yes it's good but not excellent. some graphic cards and other material don't work well
[09:33] <ikonia> ok, I see what your saying
[09:34] <ikonia> joeamined: ati and sis are the only real graphics cards problems and thats nothing to do with linux
[09:37] <ikonia> are there any early gusy builds or is it still a case of install fesity and change apt to point at gusty repos
[09:40] <limetang> Is there a program which will sync audio in avi files?
[09:41] <ikonia> I think thats done at compression time
[09:45] <DanaG> Odd, Gnome took a full minute to log in.
[09:46] <DanaG> It just sat there for roughly 60 seconds,
[10:36] <phin> hi
[11:30] <phin> what is the ubuntu eyecandy channel again?
[11:36] <jussi01> #ubuntu-effects ?
[11:37] <jussi01> phin: ^^
[11:41] <Enverex> Has anyone got fglrx working with .22?
[12:18] <parag0n__> where can people post ideas and suggestions for gutsy?
[12:19] <parag0n__> i'm thinking it'd be nice if there was an option to mount an iso image as a virtual drive built in