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Mithrandirmdz: should I or you or somebody else approve the specs that have been completed?02:04
mdzMithrandir: last I saw, they were all still drafting02:09
loolthe "cleanup" one might be marked as started now that Mithrandir has started writing nice copyrights :)02:10
Mithrandirmdz: some of them are pending approval, at least the ones I fixed up yesterday.02:11
Mithrandirand I was planning on nagging the drafters for the rest of them today, since we need to get the project plan done.02:13
Mithrandirunsure if approval-by-committee is going to work well.02:23
mdzMithrandir: agreed re: committee02:25
mdzMithrandir: would you take responsibility for reviewing and approving them?02:26
mdzthe ones you didn't write, at least02:26
Mithrandiryes, I can do that.  Somebody else will have to approve mine.02:26
mdzI can do yours if you like02:26
Mithrandiryes, please.02:26
mdzjust send me a list02:26
Mithrandiremail or IRC?02:26
mdzor set me as the approver (though you'd need to subscribe the team to keep them on the team specs page)02:26
Mithrandirhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-app-framework https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-build-infrastructure are the ones I'm drafting.02:27
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bspencerwhat is deb-src vs. deb  in the sources.list file?11:33
Mithrandirhi bob11:34
bspencerhowdy11:34
bspencerthis channel is quiet.  I should change that11:34
Mithrandirdeb-src is what apt-get source uses; deb is what apt-get install uses.11:34
Mithrandircertainly, more sound is welcome. :-)11:34
bspencerthx11:35
bspencerI don't know the nicks yet11:35
bspencerwho is asac?  Is that adilson?11:35
MithrandirAsac is Alexander Sack, the mozilla maintainer11:36
bspencerah, I knew I recognized it 11:36
MithrandirAdilson is another of the mobile people, Adilson Oliveira11:36
MithrandirI am, as you might remember, Tollef Fog Heen11:36
bspenceryes.  just hovered over your nick.11:37
bspencergoing to miss you in CA11:37
bspencerlate there?  11:30pm?11:37
Mithrandir23:3811:38
bspencer:)11:38
Mithrandirso pondering sleep soonish11:38
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Mithrandiryeah, it's unfortunate I can't be there, but trying to rearrange a vacation would just be too insane.11:38
tkohmm, anything before 04:00 isn't late... :-P11:38
bspencertko are you there all week?11:39
tkobspencer: trying to11:39
tkonot sure where I'll be staying but I should have the flights booked11:40
bspencerI just got a hotel yesterday.  Everything takes time.11:41
Mithrandirbspencer: it's good to see you around here, I was kind worried we lost contact. :-/11:41
bspencersorry.  my bad11:41
Mithrandirno need to feel bad, I'm just happy we've caught up again11:42
bspenceractually I joined a few times at home but the proxy settings at work weren't obvious and I was lazy to get it sorted out11:43
tkoI just hope we can manage decent transportation.. I gathered everyone else has a car11:43
bspencertko, true.  But if you need a ride from your hotel we can pick you up11:43
bspencerit isn't Europe, no good city-transportation11:43
Mithrandirideally, you should stay in the same place, since, as everybody knows the hallway track is the most important one. :-)11:43
bspencerI think it might be hard with the late timing.  Some of the places I tried only had exective suites left11:44
bspencerbut we'll have the late-night-eating track anyway11:44
tkobspencer: yeah, I know, I've been to CA once before.. before that I was to boston and the difference is quite noticeable11:45
bspencereast coast cities seem to have come to the realization that they need to be organized to accomodate everyone.  West coast cities are still in denial11:47
tkoI'm so spoiled by the public transportation in helsinki area :)11:47
bspencerI love the European trains11:47
bspencerjust spent a month in Germany, Engl, Italy with my wife last summer.  It was great.11:47
MithrandirI'm wondering if we'll be able to have a mobile sprint in late august or so11:48
Mithrandirdo you think that would be doable?11:48
bspencervery11:48
bspenceron your side of the ocean?11:48
bspencerwe could do something after GUADEC for a day, perhaps.  I think Rusty and i will be there. (UK)11:49
MithrandirI'd need to actually book the office, but we have a proper office in Millbank, London, UK with facilities which I'm fairly sure we could use.11:50
bspencerEither there or Zermatt would be fine with me ;)11:51
Mithrandirhehe. :-)11:54
Mithrandirzermatt sounds good too, do you have a facility there?11:54
bspencernot yet.11:55
MithrandirI can mail the list and see if there's interest in having a sprint in the UK in late august?  We'd need to agree on the dates, maybe early september would be better11:58
bspencerif it isn't adjacent to GUADEC then I would say in Sept and it could be anywhere.  Make it convenient for you because it will be the same difference for us. 11:59
bspencerIs Sept cutting too close to release?12:00
bspencerI've never been to Norway12:00
MithrandirI like Norway. :-P12:02
Mithrandirwe had a sprint here this winter, it was good.12:02
Mithrandirnot so much in the way of bandwidth trouble, etc.12:02
Mithrandirearly sept is not too bad wrt release, but august might be better.12:02
MithrandirI'd be happy to host it here, but it'll cost a bit more than london, and is more hassle to get to than London12:04
bspencerhmm.. cost more than London?  Inconceivable12:06
bspencerthat place is expensive (at least London was for a US tourist)12:06
bspencerhotdog = 2.50 pound = $5 USD.   12:07
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MithrandirOslo is.. quite expensive too.12:08
tkoI got the impression Norway is quite expensive, even compared to finland12:08
Mithrandirand here we'd have to use a business hotel to have conference rooms and such, while in London we could use the Canonical offices.12:08
bspencerI see.  Why not your house? :)12:09
bspencers/house/mansion12:09
Mithrandirit's a flat. :-)  We could use my father's cabin, it can fit some more people.12:10
Mithrandirbut yes, I could possibly arrange meeting space in Oslo too, depending on how many we'd be.12:11
MithrandirI'll mail the list and we'll see what people think.12:12
bspencermaybe we can sort that out on the mailing list.  Intel would have max 5 I think.12:12
bspencerbut maybe after next week we can discuss too, depending on needs  (kernel, UI, apps, etc.) 12:13
Mithrandirsounds good.12:14

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