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[02:09] Mithrandir: last I saw, they were all still drafting [02:10] the "cleanup" one might be marked as started now that Mithrandir has started writing nice copyrights :) [02:11] mdz: some of them are pending approval, at least the ones I fixed up yesterday. [02:13] and I was planning on nagging the drafters for the rest of them today, since we need to get the project plan done. [02:23] unsure if approval-by-committee is going to work well. [02:25] Mithrandir: agreed re: committee [02:26] Mithrandir: would you take responsibility for reviewing and approving them? [02:26] the ones you didn't write, at least [02:26] yes, I can do that. Somebody else will have to approve mine. [02:26] I can do yours if you like [02:26] yes, please. [02:26] just send me a list [02:26] email or IRC? [02:26] or set me as the approver (though you'd need to subscribe the team to keep them on the team specs page) [02:27] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-app-framework https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-build-infrastructure are the ones I'm drafting. === etrunko [n=edulima@200.184.118.132] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sabotage_afk is now known as sabotage === agoliveira [n=adilson@201.22.82.85.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === javamaniac [n=gerardo@unaffiliated/javamaniac] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === wmat_ [n=btraynor@gromit.mixdown.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === agoliveira [n=adilson@201.22.82.85.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === landley [n=landley@c-71-199-114-26.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === fcarvalho [n=Flavio@dasasob.nokia.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === agoliveir1 [n=adilson@201.47.78.207.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-071-104.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bspencer [n=bob@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === sabotage is now known as sabotage_afk === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-mobile === bspencer [n=bob@jffwprtest.jf.intel.com] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [11:33] what is deb-src vs. deb in the sources.list file? [11:34] hi bob [11:34] howdy [11:34] this channel is quiet. I should change that [11:34] deb-src is what apt-get source uses; deb is what apt-get install uses. [11:34] certainly, more sound is welcome. :-) [11:35] thx [11:35] I don't know the nicks yet [11:35] who is asac? Is that adilson? [11:36] Asac is Alexander Sack, the mozilla maintainer [11:36] ah, I knew I recognized it [11:36] Adilson is another of the mobile people, Adilson Oliveira [11:36] I am, as you might remember, Tollef Fog Heen [11:37] yes. just hovered over your nick. [11:37] going to miss you in CA [11:37] late there? 11:30pm? [11:38] 23:38 [11:38] :) [11:38] so pondering sleep soonish === tko is still in the middle of trying to arrange flights [11:38] yeah, it's unfortunate I can't be there, but trying to rearrange a vacation would just be too insane. [11:38] hmm, anything before 04:00 isn't late... :-P [11:39] tko are you there all week? [11:39] bspencer: trying to [11:40] not sure where I'll be staying but I should have the flights booked [11:41] I just got a hotel yesterday. Everything takes time. [11:41] bspencer: it's good to see you around here, I was kind worried we lost contact. :-/ [11:41] sorry. my bad [11:42] no need to feel bad, I'm just happy we've caught up again [11:43] actually I joined a few times at home but the proxy settings at work weren't obvious and I was lazy to get it sorted out [11:43] I just hope we can manage decent transportation.. I gathered everyone else has a car [11:43] tko, true. But if you need a ride from your hotel we can pick you up [11:43] it isn't Europe, no good city-transportation [11:43] ideally, you should stay in the same place, since, as everybody knows the hallway track is the most important one. :-) [11:44] I think it might be hard with the late timing. Some of the places I tried only had exective suites left [11:44] but we'll have the late-night-eating track anyway [11:45] bspencer: yeah, I know, I've been to CA once before.. before that I was to boston and the difference is quite noticeable [11:47] east coast cities seem to have come to the realization that they need to be organized to accomodate everyone. West coast cities are still in denial [11:47] I'm so spoiled by the public transportation in helsinki area :) [11:47] I love the European trains [11:47] just spent a month in Germany, Engl, Italy with my wife last summer. It was great. [11:48] I'm wondering if we'll be able to have a mobile sprint in late august or so [11:48] do you think that would be doable? [11:48] very [11:48] on your side of the ocean? [11:49] we could do something after GUADEC for a day, perhaps. I think Rusty and i will be there. (UK) [11:50] I'd need to actually book the office, but we have a proper office in Millbank, London, UK with facilities which I'm fairly sure we could use. [11:51] Either there or Zermatt would be fine with me ;) [11:54] hehe. :-) [11:54] zermatt sounds good too, do you have a facility there? [11:55] not yet. [11:58] I can mail the list and see if there's interest in having a sprint in the UK in late august? We'd need to agree on the dates, maybe early september would be better [11:59] if it isn't adjacent to GUADEC then I would say in Sept and it could be anywhere. Make it convenient for you because it will be the same difference for us. [12:00] Is Sept cutting too close to release? [12:00] I've never been to Norway [12:02] I like Norway. :-P [12:02] we had a sprint here this winter, it was good. [12:02] not so much in the way of bandwidth trouble, etc. [12:02] early sept is not too bad wrt release, but august might be better. [12:04] I'd be happy to host it here, but it'll cost a bit more than london, and is more hassle to get to than London [12:06] hmm.. cost more than London? Inconceivable [12:06] that place is expensive (at least London was for a US tourist) [12:07] hotdog = 2.50 pound = $5 USD. === irotas [n=irotas@c-66-30-195-112.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mobile [12:08] Oslo is.. quite expensive too. [12:08] I got the impression Norway is quite expensive, even compared to finland [12:08] and here we'd have to use a business hotel to have conference rooms and such, while in London we could use the Canonical offices. [12:09] I see. Why not your house? :) [12:09] s/house/mansion [12:10] it's a flat. :-) We could use my father's cabin, it can fit some more people. [12:11] but yes, I could possibly arrange meeting space in Oslo too, depending on how many we'd be. [12:12] I'll mail the list and we'll see what people think. [12:12] maybe we can sort that out on the mailing list. Intel would have max 5 I think. [12:13] but maybe after next week we can discuss too, depending on needs (kernel, UI, apps, etc.) [12:14] sounds good.