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| gecko89 | wondering if anyone can help with a LAMP server? | 03:26 |
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| gecko89 | I only have the LA | 03:26 |
| gecko89 | i've installed the php module, it doesn't seem to be working... phpinfo() yields a blank page | 03:28 |
| ajmitch | what did you install? libapache2-mod-php5 ? | 03:29 |
| gecko89 | yes | 03:29 |
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| ajmitch | do you have php5.conf & php5.load symlinks in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled ? | 03:29 |
| gecko89 | let me check | 03:29 |
| gecko89 | I added the files.. is there some special way to handle them? | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | added, how? | 03:30 |
| gecko89 | cp | 03:30 |
| ajmitch | did you just create the symlinks? | 03:30 |
| gecko89 | no, what's a symlink? | 03:31 |
| ajmitch | uh oh | 03:31 |
| ajmitch | best to just remove the files you copied, and use a2enmod | 03:31 |
| ajmitch | specifically, a2enmod php5 | 03:32 |
| gecko89 | how do i use a2enmod | 03:32 |
| gecko89 | oh its just a command | 03:32 |
| gecko89 | alright lemme try restarting apache | 03:33 |
| ajmitch | once you restart apache, check /var/log/apache2/error.log | 03:33 |
| ajmitch | you'd see a line similar to: | 03:34 |
| ajmitch | [Wed May 30 07:36:43 2007] [notice] Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) PHP/4.4.4-8+etch1 configured -- resuming normal operations | 03:34 |
| ajmitch | if it is loaded | 03:34 |
| gecko89 | PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/xmlrpc.so' - /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/xmlrpc.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0 | 03:34 |
| gecko89 | [Thu May 31 20:44:35 2007] [notice] Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.1 configured -- resuming normal operations | 03:34 |
| ajmitch | interesting | 03:35 |
| gecko89 | still getting a blank page | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | you've installed php5 only from ubuntu repositories? | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | not using getdeb.net or similar? | 03:36 |
| gecko89 | i did apt-get install php5-common | 03:36 |
| gecko89 | this is all a little different, i previously ran an apache 1 server with php 4 on windows | 03:39 |
| ajmitch | are you trying to load an xmlrpc extension in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini ? | 03:41 |
| gecko89 | let's see here | 03:41 |
| gecko89 | i don't think so, the only reference to xmlrpc in php.ini is: [xmlrpc] | 03:42 |
| gecko89 | ;xmlrpc_error_number = 0 | 03:42 |
| gecko89 | ;xmlrpc_errors = 0 | 03:42 |
| ajmitch | interesting, I wonder why it's trying to load it. anyway, it's in the php5-xmlrpc package | 03:45 |
| ajmitch | and your sample phpinfo page, where is it? | 03:45 |
| gecko89 | /var/www/ | 03:45 |
| gecko89 | document root | 03:45 |
| ajmitch | right, using long tags? | 03:46 |
| === ajmitch would assume short opening tags is turned on anyway | ||
| gecko89 | this is what it is... | 03:46 |
| gecko89 | <html> | 03:47 |
| gecko89 | <body> | 03:47 |
| gecko89 | <?php phpinfo(); | 03:47 |
| gecko89 | ?> | 03:47 |
| gecko89 | </body> | 03:47 |
| gecko89 | </html> | 03:47 |
| ajmitch | ok, which works fine for me | 03:48 |
| ajmitch | it does have a .php extension? | 03:48 |
| gecko89 | yes | 03:48 |
| === ajmitch has to check the obvious first :) | ||
| gecko89 | at first firefox wouldn't recognize it, but i added the file type to apache2.conf | 03:49 |
| ajmitch | right, how did you add it? | 03:49 |
| gecko89 | i just installed the php5-xmlrpc package, it no longer does the same error | 03:49 |
| ajmitch | that addition should probably be removed now | 03:49 |
| ajmitch | since php5.conf in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled has the right configuration syntax to use | 03:50 |
| gecko89 | AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml | 03:50 |
| gecko89 | took it out, still getting just a blank page | 03:52 |
| gecko89 | apache gives an error apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName | 03:52 |
| gecko89 | i dont think that has anything to do with it though | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | no, it shouldn't | 03:52 |
| ajmitch | nothing else in error.log? | 03:52 |
| gecko89 | nothing | 03:53 |
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| hads | :) | 03:55 |
| gecko89 | i have webmin installed, would that be causing any trouble? | 03:55 |
| ajmitch | webmin causes all sorts of troubles | 03:55 |
| ajmitch | which is why it was removed from debian & ubuntu | 03:55 |
| gecko89 | how do i remove it | 03:55 |
| ajmitch | problem is how it can end up mangling configuration files | 03:56 |
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| ajmitch | hads: situation is, php5 module appears loaded, everything in the right place, phpinfo() isn't spitting out anything | 03:56 |
| gecko89 | it hasn't helped me any way so im fine with parting with it | 03:56 |
| ajmitch | hi ibeardslee :) | 03:56 |
| ibeardslee | hi ajmitch | 03:57 |
| === ajmitch is sure it'll be something simple | ||
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| gecko89 | alright, i removed webmin | 04:03 |
| gecko89 | still blank, heh | 04:03 |
| gecko89 | is there any special change i need to make to apache2.conf, or did the add-module part take care of everything? | 04:04 |
| gecko89 | er, mods-enabled | 04:04 |
| ajmitch | no, unless webmin broke the config :) | 04:05 |
| gecko89 | well im checking paths and stuff, it's pointing to the right place | 04:06 |
| gecko89 | php5.load: LoadModule php5_module /usr/lib/apache2/modules/libphp5.so | 04:06 |
| gecko89 | and libphp5.so is there | 04:06 |
| gecko89 | i see php5.conf took care of the file types | 04:06 |
| hads | Is phpinfo showing anything? The source file? | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | and does /etc/apache2/apache2.conf have these 2 lines? | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.load | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.conf | 04:06 |
| gecko89 | ajmitch, lemme check | 04:07 |
| gecko89 | hads, the source file is showing the php script... | 04:07 |
| gecko89 | yeah, that's screwed up | 04:08 |
| gecko89 | ajmitch, it has both those lines just like that | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | hads: we know from apache's error.log that php is loaded at least | 04:09 |
| hads | is php5.conf linked in? That will give it the filetypes to process. | 04:09 |
| gecko89 | yup, linked it | 04:10 |
| gecko89 | i first had that part wrong | 04:10 |
| hads | It could be that the module is loaded but no file types are assigned so they aren't being processed. | 04:10 |
| gecko89 | <IfModule mod_php5.c> | 04:10 |
| gecko89 | AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .phtml .php3 | 04:10 |
| gecko89 | AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps | 04:10 |
| gecko89 | </IfModule> | 04:10 |
| gecko89 | that's in php5.conf | 04:10 |
| hads | Can you pastebin the output of ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ | 04:11 |
| hads | (not here, in a pastebin). | 04:11 |
| gecko89 | how do i do a pastebin | 04:12 |
| hads | http://pastebin.ca | 04:12 |
| gecko89 | http://pastebin.ca/526947 | 04:13 |
| hads | Odd. | 04:15 |
| ajmitch | rather | 04:16 |
| gecko89 | indubitably | 04:17 |
| hads | Of course apache has been restarted? :) | 04:17 |
| gecko89 | quite a bit yeah | 04:18 |
| ajmitch | hads: even checked that it's a file with a .php extension in /var/www :) | 04:18 |
| hads | With `sudo invoke-rc.d apache restart` or `sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart` | 04:19 |
| hads | ajmitch: :) | 04:19 |
| gecko89 | [Thu May 31 21:03:37 2007] [notice] Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.1 configured -- resuming normal operations | 04:19 |
| gecko89 | [Thu May 31 21:07:22 2007] [error] [client 192.168.0.101] File does not exist: /var/www/favicon.ico | 04:19 |
| gecko89 | [Thu May 31 21:18:28 2007] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down | 04:19 |
| gecko89 | [Thu May 31 21:18:38 2007] [notice] Apache/2.2.3 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.1 configured -- resuming normal operations | 04:19 |
| gecko89 | i did it the /etc/init.d way | 04:19 |
| ajmitch | which should be equivalent | 04:19 |
| hads | Yeah, just making sure that you did a full restart | 04:20 |
| hads | (not a reload or something) | 04:20 |
| gecko89 | just how you wrote it | 04:20 |
| hads | Well I'm out of ideas. | 04:20 |
| ajmitch | hads: which is why I called for ideas :) | 04:20 |
| gecko89 | i haven't actually restarted the PC, but honestly that shouldn't be needed on linux, right? | 04:21 |
| ajmitch | certainly not | 04:21 |
| gecko89 | two pieces of software made to go together, won't go together | 04:22 |
| ibeardslee | I have the full path in the link if that would make a difference? | 04:26 |
| ibeardslee | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 2006-12-20 21:13 php5.load -> /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.load | 04:27 |
| ajmitch | shouldn't matter, works fine for me with a relative symlink | 04:27 |
| === ajmitch just has /var/www/php.php, and it works at http://localhost/php.php | ||
| gecko89 | that's the exact same filepath and even filename i've got | 04:28 |
| gecko89 | the apache portion of the server works fine, its just the php isn't taking | 04:29 |
| ibeardslee | it's just returning source of the php file? | 04:30 |
| gecko89 | right | 04:31 |
| gecko89 | <html> | 04:31 |
| gecko89 | <body> | 04:31 |
| gecko89 | <?php phpinfo(); | 04:31 |
| gecko89 | ?> | 04:31 |
| gecko89 | </body> | 04:31 |
| gecko89 | </html> | 04:31 |
| gecko89 | well gentlemen, looks like i might have to tackle this another time | 04:33 |
| gecko89 | thank you for all your help | 04:33 |
| ajmitch | alright, sorry it's not working yet | 04:34 |
| gecko89 | oh, i probably made a stupid mistake somewhere along the line... i'll go over the steps again later | 04:34 |
| gecko89 | thank you again though | 04:34 |
| ibeardslee | does it work from the command line? | 04:34 |
| ibeardslee | shit | 04:34 |
| ibeardslee | I mean too late | 04:35 |
| ajmitch | ah well | 04:36 |
| fujin_ | I'm tryign to find libgd for PHP in the latest Feisty server. I cannot seem to locate it, there isn't a libgd-php | 04:38 |
| fujin_ | any idea what I need to install to have gd functionality? | 04:38 |
| fujin_ | nevermind | 04:39 |
| fujin_ | I'm a retard, lol | 04:39 |
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| pc_ | Hello could someone help me with xserver problem? | 04:41 |
| pc_ | HEY CAn SOMEONE HELP ME ? | 04:42 |
| ibeardslee | maybe, not if you shout though. what is your xserver problem? | 04:42 |
| pc_ | okay when i type startx, it brings up something about FreeFontPath, and /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc refcount is 2 should be 1, fixin. Then stops x. | 04:43 |
| pc_ | any ideas? | 04:45 |
| ibeardslee | the first though that goes through my mind is that the config is wrong and has too many lines in it | 04:46 |
| ibeardslee | about the fonts | 04:46 |
| pc_ | well i went through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg | 04:46 |
| ibeardslee | have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 04:47 |
| pc_ | already did looks fine | 04:48 |
| ibeardslee | see if it has /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc in there twice | 04:48 |
| pc_ | okay be right back | 04:48 |
| pc_ | in this through irssi | 04:48 |
| pc_ | so be right back | 04:48 |
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| pc_ | hey I tried that and it didn't fix it ibeardslee | 04:54 |
| ibeardslee | you are aware that you can use Ctrl+Alt+F1, Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get different consoles so you don't have to actuall exit? | 04:55 |
| pc_ | nope didn't know that | 04:55 |
| pc_ | sorry, I will do that | 04:56 |
| pc_ | any other suggestions? | 04:56 |
| ibeardslee | it's a very handy trick to know | 04:56 |
| ibeardslee | sorry I am a wee bit stumped there | 04:56 |
| pc_ | :*( | 04:56 |
| ibeardslee | was it ever working? | 04:56 |
| pc_ | Nope | 04:56 |
| ibeardslee | oh | 04:57 |
| ibeardslee | what version? | 04:57 |
| pc_ | Edgy | 04:57 |
| ibeardslee | found a couple of references to your error on google ... | 04:58 |
| pc_ | any of them have solutions? | 05:00 |
| ibeardslee | someone suggested running | 05:00 |
| ibeardslee | fc-cache -f | 05:00 |
| ibeardslee | did you just do an upgrade? | 05:00 |
| pc_ | no I did a fresh install | 05:01 |
| ajmitch | could be something like bad symlinks, edgy had some interesting things with the move to a more modular X | 05:01 |
| ajmitch | hm, a fresh install should never break like that | 05:01 |
| ajmitch | have you asked in #ubuntu? it's not really something serverish | 05:01 |
| ibeardslee | I do actually vaguley recall having to change some permissions or something, but I thought that was a distupgrdae to feisty | 05:01 |
| pc_ | fc-cache -f "fc-cache command not found" | 05:01 |
| ajmitch | did you do a server install, and are trying to get X working on top of that? | 05:02 |
| pc_ | yes | 05:02 |
| ajmitch | installed xserver-xorg-core ? | 05:02 |
| pc_ | yes | 05:02 |
| ajmitch | ok, so you probably have xfonts-base installed | 05:02 |
| pc_ | I installed that yes | 05:02 |
| pc_ | any ideas? | 05:04 |
| ajmitch | though it appears the new package to install is xorg, not sure about edgy | 05:04 |
| === ajmitch would suggest #ubuntu for X problems | ||
| === foo would suggest #ubuntuforums | ||
| === ibeardslee is stumped | ||
| pc_ | got a new error not something about error locking /home/pc/.Xauthority? | 05:07 |
| pc_ | got a new error now something about error locking /home/pc/.Xauthority? | 05:07 |
| pc_ | got a new error now something about error locking authority /home/pc/.Xauthority? | 05:09 |
| pc_ | there that is the error, sorry had to switch back and forth | 05:09 |
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| pc_ | Anyone have any ideas on this new error? | 05:11 |
| ibeardslee | sorry | 05:12 |
| pc_ | okay here is a question where does startx pull its information from? Like on what to start | 05:15 |
| ibeardslee | /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ~/.Xauthority | 05:24 |
| ibeardslee | I think that is all | 05:24 |
| ibeardslee | err maybe not | 05:25 |
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| ribo | how do I get a proper serial console with upstart (god I miss inittab) | 05:42 |
| fujin_ | does it not have an /etc/inittab file anymore? | 05:43 |
| ribo | no, upstart kills it | 05:44 |
| ribo | and upstart has no documentation on it | 05:44 |
| Pumpernickel | There's an upstart support channel - #upstart. | 05:45 |
| Pumpernickel | You may even catch a dev there. | 05:46 |
| ribo | cool, thanks | 05:46 |
| ribo | full of idlers, apparently, any ideas? | 06:01 |
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| ajmitch | looks like there was a migration script from inittab which created them for upgrades | 06:02 |
| ajmitch | I presume you'll need a file /etc/event.d/ttyS0 | 06:04 |
| ajmitch | something like /etc/event.d/tty1, except with the device name changed | 06:05 |
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| ribo | hmm yea, would have been nice if upstart had some real docs before it completely replaced init in ubuntu :/ | 06:08 |
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| nrpil | hi there, i wonder where i can find more information about running ubuntu on my server | 10:02 |
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| nrpil | maybe some page on www.ubuntulinux.org ? | 10:15 |
| shawarma | nrpil: What do you want to know? | 10:24 |
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| ivoks | howdy | 10:39 |
| nrpil | hi shawarma, i want to create a production server for our company. so i want to use ldap with samba to join a active directory | 10:43 |
| ivoks | i don't see what ldap has to do with this? | 10:44 |
| ivoks | you want to connect samba as a client to AD? | 10:44 |
| ivoks | or you want samba to be AD PDC | 10:44 |
| ivoks | or you don't need help :) | 10:47 |
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| mpathy | Hi there | 11:14 |
| mpathy | I want to update my server from dapper to feisty.. I installed a Postfix 2.3 there from a seperate .deb - when I update to feisty, will I have problems because of that? What common problems are possible in general from update over two releases? | 11:15 |
| ivoks | you should update to edgy first | 11:17 |
| ivoks | dapper -> feisty isn't supported | 11:18 |
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| citybird | hi all. i am looking for a step by step guide to installing a mail gateway server using ubuntu. | 11:25 |
| ivoks | install ubuntu-server, install postifx and add relayhost to postfix | 11:26 |
| citybird | thanks looking that up | 11:27 |
| citybird | i have part 1 and 2 done | 11:27 |
| ivoks | when you install OS, you can come here for help | 11:27 |
| ivoks | oh, you did already :) | 11:28 |
| citybird | yep | 11:28 |
| ivoks | open /etc/postfix/main.cf and add relayhost = your_ISP_MX | 11:28 |
| citybird | thought about doing it with gentoo but then thought better of it. I already deal with 2 gentoo web servers and dont want to expand that upgrade headache. | 11:29 |
| citybird | ivoks: this server only recieves email and forwards it to our exchange server. I will be adding clamav to it after i get that part working. | 11:30 |
| ivoks | ok then | 11:30 |
| ivoks | instead ISP_MX add exchange IP | 11:30 |
| citybird | kool | 11:30 |
| citybird | main.cf iis a short file | 11:31 |
| ivoks | next, add your domain to mydestination | 11:31 |
| mpathy | ivoks: So I have to dist-upgrade to edgy.. then restart.. then dist-upgrade to feisty.. then restart? | 11:31 |
| ivoks | mpathy: dist-update to edgy, then yo feisty, then restart cause of new kernel | 11:32 |
| ivoks | citybird: you also need clamav-daemon, clamav-freshclam and amavisd-new | 11:33 |
| ivoks | for content filtering | 11:34 |
| citybird | right. sorry, im slow. first i want to make sure this box is forwarding emails | 11:34 |
| ivoks | ok | 11:34 |
| ivoks | it's probably not yet :) | 11:34 |
| citybird | what is the syntax of the mydestination line? mydestenation = domainname.com | 11:35 |
| nrpil | ivoks: sorry, got called away from my computer | 11:36 |
| ivoks | citybird: just append your domain | 11:36 |
| ivoks | citybird: mydestination = localhost.localdomain, localhost.localdomain, localhost, your_domain | 11:36 |
| nrpil | ivoks: users are also going to use ssh to login to the machine | 11:40 |
| nrpil | ivoks: my idea was to use ldap for that | 11:40 |
| ivoks | so you want local users + domain users? | 11:41 |
| ivoks | or only domain users via AD? | 11:41 |
| nrpil | ivoks: i want to use the domain users as local user logins | 11:42 |
| ivoks | do you have AD already? | 11:42 |
| nrpil | yes | 11:42 |
| ivoks | you can auth ssh (and all other) users trough samba | 11:42 |
| ivoks | so, once you connect samba to AD/kerberos | 11:43 |
| ivoks | just set up pam to auth over samba | 11:43 |
| nrpil | oke | 11:44 |
| ivoks | so you don't need ldap :) | 11:44 |
| nrpil | ivoks: because ldap is a pain in the ass ? | 11:44 |
| ivoks | no, it's a additional service you don't need | 11:44 |
| ivoks | therefor one more service you need to watch over | 11:45 |
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| citybird | ok ivoks, postfix now has mydest set up. | 11:47 |
| ivoks | ok | 11:49 |
| ivoks | now add | 11:49 |
| ivoks | transport_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/transport | 11:49 |
| ivoks | then open /etc/postfix/transport and add: | 11:50 |
| ivoks | @your_domain smtp:IP_of_exchange | 11:50 |
| ivoks | ups... without @ | 11:51 |
| citybird | ivoks: ok | 11:53 |
| ivoks | citybird: restart postfix | 11:54 |
| citybird | done | 11:54 |
| ivoks | tail -f /var/log/mail.log and try sending a mail over it | 11:54 |
| citybird | now that is the interesting part | 11:55 |
| citybird | how do i send mail directly to a particular server. | 11:55 |
| ivoks | set up your client or telnet to port 25 | 11:55 |
| citybird | on another machine i typed telnet ipaddress:25 and it gives me name or service not known | 11:58 |
| ivoks | telnet ip port | 11:59 |
| citybird | ah | 11:59 |
| citybird | got it | 11:59 |
| citybird | i forgot the commands | 11:59 |
| ivoks | http://www.activexperts.com/activemail/telnet/ | 12:00 |
| citybird | there is a problem... it's not responding 250 ok | 12:03 |
| ivoks | if you want, msg me an IP and i'll check it | 12:04 |
| ivoks | the ip :) | 12:05 |
| citybird | sorry, during testing phase the server is not givin an internet address | 12:05 |
| ivoks | HELP whatever | 12:05 |
| ivoks | MAIL FROM:<someone@dot.com> | 12:05 |
| ivoks | RCPT TO:<user@your_domain> | 12:05 |
| ivoks | DATA | 12:05 |
| ivoks | . | 12:06 |
| citybird | yea, i did that and there is never a response and after the . it just sits there. | 12:06 |
| ivoks | where does it fail to respond 250? | 12:06 |
| ivoks | check your mail.log | 12:06 |
| citybird | nothin | 12:06 |
| citybird | after the restart there are no messages | 12:07 |
| citybird | sec. | 12:07 |
| citybird | hmm | 12:08 |
| citybird | that tail thing aint scrolling | 12:08 |
| ivoks | tail -f | 12:08 |
| citybird | trying it again | 12:08 |
| citybird | ok here we go, that window timed out. | 12:09 |
| citybird | wow, lots of warnings | 12:10 |
| citybird | let me try again. | 12:10 |
| ivoks | i doubt warrning will go away just cause you're trying again :) | 12:12 |
| citybird | ok i wanted to see what warnings came when | 12:12 |
| citybird | connect is ok. | 12:12 |
| citybird | then this is what i get when i try mail from: webmaster@monitortools.com | 12:12 |
| citybird | Jun 1 13:06:23 viruswall2 postfix/trivial-rewrite[1834] : fatal: open database /etc/postfix/transport.db: No such file or directory | 12:13 |
| ivoks | doh | 12:13 |
| ivoks | postmap /etc/postfix/transport | 12:13 |
| citybird | ah | 12:14 |
| citybird | ok trying again. | 12:14 |
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| citybird | woo hooo | 12:15 |
| citybird | ok now. Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table | 12:15 |
| ivoks | ok | 12:16 |
| ivoks | add this to main.cf: | 12:16 |
| citybird | how do i tell it to accept all mails directed to the domain. sorta like *@domain.com | 12:16 |
| ivoks | relay_domains = hash:/etc/postfix/relay_domains | 12:16 |
| ivoks | and in /etc/postfix/relay_domains: | 12:16 |
| ivoks | domain.com OK | 12:16 |
| ivoks | then postmap /etc/postfix/relay_domains | 12:16 |
| ivoks | restart postfix and try again | 12:17 |
| citybird | do i put that near relay host? | 12:17 |
| ivoks | it doesn't mather | 12:17 |
| citybird | ok did that but it still rejects | 12:20 |
| ivoks | could you paste your main.cf somewhere on pastebin? | 12:21 |
| citybird | ivoks: http://pastebin.ca/527512 | 12:23 |
| ivoks | this is everything you have in it? | 12:24 |
| citybird | i left out some comments at the top | 12:24 |
| citybird | perhaps i should pull the version that comes with the source | 12:25 |
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| ivoks | try with this: http://pastebin.ca/527515 | 12:27 |
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| citybird | that was much better | 12:30 |
| citybird | now we see if anything came through | 12:30 |
| citybird | dam it says connection timed out and i have to run for a lunch appointment. | 12:32 |
| citybird | some lady got 6000 spam emails | 12:32 |
| citybird | ill be back later, thanks for your help | 12:32 |
| ivoks | timed out where? | 12:32 |
| citybird | sending to the exchange server. | 12:32 |
| ivoks | that's another problem | 12:32 |
| citybird | Jun 1 13:25:05 viruswall2 postfix/smtp[2262] : 057CD4B926: to=<jones@farner.ch>, relay=none, delay=61, delays=31/0.02/30/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to 192.168.150.42[192.168.150.42] : Connection timed out) | 12:33 |
| ivoks | i guess your exchange doesn't like you | 12:33 |
| citybird | yea, i think it's the firewall settings. | 12:33 |
| citybird | ill check it from the serer on port 25 ;-) | 12:33 |
| citybird | yep, port 25 is blocked from the firewall. ill have that corrected. | 12:34 |
| ivoks | then just run postqueue -f | 12:35 |
| citybird | thanks again. | 12:36 |
| ivoks | np | 12:36 |
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| nrpil | ivoks: you have some production servers running yourself ? | 12:40 |
| citybird | we have an old virus scan machine from m$ that has a yearly subscription that is abut to expire. i want to replace it with a free linux machine. | 12:41 |
| citybird | then retire that server and use the os licence on a new machine. | 12:42 |
| citybird | afk | 12:42 |
| ivoks | nrpil: with what? | 12:44 |
| ivoks | nrpil: i have lots of them, none with AD, it's crap :) | 12:45 |
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| Stonekeeper | hi ivoks. Just to let you know, the server has been working great :) thanks again | 12:52 |
| ivoks | np | 12:53 |
| Stonekeeper | apparently the bug has been open for years, and ubuntu devs aren't sorting it out :( | 12:53 |
| ivoks | khm, khm... :) | 12:53 |
| Stonekeeper | it's not even assigned! | 12:53 |
| Stonekeeper | out of interest, do you know if canonical is developing a GUI admin tool for ubuntu server? | 12:53 |
| ivoks | ubuntu isn't just canonical | 12:54 |
| Stonekeeper | i know. however, that sounds like a story. | 12:54 |
| ivoks | afaik, shawarma is working on something... | 12:54 |
| ivoks | but he would know better | 12:54 |
| shawarma | hm? | 12:54 |
| Stonekeeper | i'd really like to contribute to that | 12:54 |
| ivoks | :) | 12:54 |
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| shawarma | Which bug are we talking about? | 12:54 |
| Stonekeeper | (please tell me it's a python app!) | 12:54 |
| Stonekeeper | shawarma: the bug was for the DAC960 driver | 12:55 |
| Stonekeeper | I'll find it now | 12:55 |
| ivoks | shawarma: DAC960 modules isn't in initrd after install | 12:55 |
| shawarma | ivoks: Right. | 12:55 |
| Stonekeeper | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/31035 | 12:56 |
| Stonekeeper | it was reported over a year ago | 12:56 |
| Stonekeeper | the fix has worked no problem so it's ok for me right now :) I was talking to ivoks about a GUI for ubuntu server though. He mentioned your name | 12:57 |
| shawarma | Right. It's going to be a web based application. | 12:57 |
| Stonekeeper | python? | 12:57 |
| shawarma | Unfortunately, no, I think. | 12:57 |
| Stonekeeper | :( | 12:57 |
| Stonekeeper | major :( | 12:57 |
| shawarma | I would have wished for it to be python, but: | 12:58 |
| shawarma | www.ebox-platform.com is in perl and it's just too complete to be ignored. | 12:58 |
| ivoks | i agree | 12:58 |
| shawarma | It's hard to justify building something new just to have it in another programming language. | 12:58 |
| Stonekeeper | sure | 12:58 |
| Stonekeeper | but think of the maintainability nightmare! | 12:59 |
| shawarma | I'll just have to get myself some protective goggles so my eyes won't start to bleed to badly from looking at perl code. :( | 12:59 |
| shawarma | Stonekeeper: Well, maintainability is not entirely that simle. | 12:59 |
| shawarma | Stonekeeper: Upstream is alive and well, which moves a huge chunk of the maintainability problems away from us. | 12:59 |
| Stonekeeper | right | 01:00 |
| Stonekeeper | i was thinking of a utility for users used to the win server 200X interface | 01:00 |
| shawarma | Stonekeeper: Also, teaching the software to be python is harder and more time-consuming than to teach me to be more of a perl wizard. | 01:00 |
| Stonekeeper | "teaching the software to be python" <- ? | 01:01 |
| shawarma | to be perfectly honest, I'm not terribly interested in looking like something else for no othper purpose that for it to look like something else. | 01:01 |
| Stonekeeper | sure | 01:01 |
| shawarma | "teaching the software to be python" == porting it to python. | 01:01 |
| Stonekeeper | i think the problem is, it's very easy to get windows admins. If the UI was the same, they could manage linux servers without retraining. It makes ubuntu server a viable option for places that think it's too much of a support risk. | 01:02 |
| Stonekeeper | I'll be working soon for a place like this | 01:02 |
| shawarma | if think that trying to obtain usability by looking like something else that some - *only* because of experience with it - find easy to use, is a failing strategy altogether. | 01:04 |
| shawarma | "I think"* | 01:04 |
| Stonekeeper | i agree | 01:04 |
| Stonekeeper | this isn't my thinking, but i understand where they are coming from | 01:05 |
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| shawarma | You can obtain ease of use in two major ways: | 01:05 |
| shawarma | 1) Being easy | 01:05 |
| shawarma | 2) Look like something that your users are used to | 01:05 |
| shawarma | I aim for 1). | 01:05 |
| Stonekeeper | yeah. me too :D | 01:05 |
| Stonekeeper | there isn't currently a decent samba/ldap/user management gui though is there? | 01:06 |
| shawarma | I've just poked the kernel guys about including DAC960 into the default initramfs. | 01:16 |
| shawarma | They're all in Canada or USA, so they'll probably not respond just yet. | 01:17 |
| Stonekeeper | thanks shawarma | 01:27 |
| Stonekeeper | out of interest, is the initrd static and not based on your install preferences? | 01:28 |
| shawarma | Stonekeeper: It's already fixed, actually. | 01:28 |
| shawarma | Even in Edgy. | 01:28 |
| Stonekeeper | ah right, of scourse LTs is dapper :D | 01:29 |
| shawarma | I didn't notice anything about LTS. Sorry. | 01:29 |
| Stonekeeper | at least the next LTS will have 3rd party support option which will mean you could get this in initrd by stealth | 01:30 |
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| baggito | hrm. has anyone here used easyspeedy.com hosting? | 01:42 |
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| citybird | aww, ivoks left... | 02:06 |
| shawarma | baggito: I have. | 02:11 |
| shawarma | baggito: I used to be a satisfied customer, but over the last summer they had major network problems (which - truth be told - turned out to be their uplink's problem), but they never gave any reasons or any ideas of when you could expect things to work again. *Very* annoying. | 02:12 |
| shawarma | baggito: I'd recommend hetzner.de any day. | 02:12 |
| shawarma | baggito: Just make sure that you make it absolutely clear to them if you don't speak German. | 02:13 |
| shawarma | baggito: they're very professional and cheap. | 02:13 |
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| fernando | moin all | 02:29 |
| baggito | hrm | 02:33 |
| baggito | cool. thanks shawarma | 02:33 |
| baggito | hrm. they have no website in english | 02:35 |
| baggito | oh i see it | 02:37 |
| baggito | hrm. it's redhat | 02:38 |
| baggito | shawarma: they only have redhat? | 02:42 |
| baggito | hrm. how upgradable is redhat? | 02:42 |
| shawarma | No, they have Ubuntu, too. | 02:46 |
| baggito | oh nice | 02:47 |
| baggito | perfect | 02:47 |
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| citybird | hey all, i got postfix up and running, it accepts mails and forwards them to the exchange server on our network. now how do you intergrate clamav? | 03:16 |
| shawarma | citybird: I usually use amavisd | 03:17 |
| shawarma | citybird: amavisd-new, that is | 03:18 |
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| citybird | working on that now. cant find simple to follow instructions. | 03:18 |
| shawarma | citybird: /usr/share/doc/amavisd-new/README.postfix.gz | 03:18 |
| citybird | why does everything have to be so deep tech | 03:18 |
| shawarma | Because making user interfaces for that sort of thing is not particularly fun. :) | 03:19 |
| citybird | i keep getting cannot open `/etc/mailname' for reading: No such file or directory | 03:20 |
| shawarma | Does it exist? | 03:23 |
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| citybird | nope. i should put my domain name in it and nothing else | 03:26 |
| citybird | ok, it's going now. | 03:30 |
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| Ali_ix | hi | 08:04 |
| Ali_ix | can in install glibc 2.4 or higher on a i386 dapper server? | 08:05 |
| Ali_ix | current glibc in dapper repositories is 2.35 | 08:05 |
| Ali_ix | how can i install 2.4? | 08:05 |
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| Gruelius | how do i force apt-get to use the internet, in tired of putting in my cd -.- | 08:18 |
| Panzer_ | Gruelius: comment out the line in sources.list about the cd | 08:25 |
| Ali_ix | Gruelius: and then do an 'apt-get update' | 08:27 |
| Gruelius | cheers. And how can i set a static ip from the command line? i forget the simple things :( | 08:29 |
| Panzer_ | change the interfaces file in /etc/networking | 08:29 |
| Gruelius | rightio | 08:30 |
| Gruelius | with ubuntu, if i apt-get something that is normally set to run at startup is it automatically added to bootup? or do i need to add it to rc-update | 08:32 |
| leonel | normally gets configured | 08:47 |
| Gruelius | sweet, im liking this over gentoo allready :D when i grabbed cupsys* i thought great a big compiling time to wait, was done in a tic :D | 08:49 |
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| r00tintheb0x | =) | 12:03 |
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