[12:01] <Slart> faight: there is no utorrent for ubuntu... you get the windows version and run it using wine
[12:01] <uberushaximus> scoobydoo28139, depends, are you supplied with a binary?
[12:01] <jrib> scoobydoo28139: you'd have to read the documentation for the game, there's no standard way really
[12:01] <uberushaximus> Slart, ever hear of ktorrent?
[12:01] <Slart> uberushaximus: eh.. yes.. so?
[12:02] <uberushaximus> never tried it myself :D
[12:02] <gnomefreak> klav: try http://www.linux.org/lessons/short/fluxbox/index.html  i cant find the guide i used to use
[12:02] <Slart> ok.. I'll write that down in my little book for future reference =)
[12:03] <klav> gnomefreak: thanks!
[12:03] <gnomefreak> klav: yw
[12:03] <Rodel> does any1 know a good mp3 and wma music player?
[12:03] <scoobydoo28139> The cd has a linux installer.sh
[12:03] <HOT> Rodel: amarok
[12:03] <Slart> plenty of mp3-players.. wma is a little harder
[12:03] <Slart> does amarok play wma?
[12:03] <clearzen> joejoe300: Anyway if you read this the last step is to add chroot like this sudo chroot /mnt/root /bin/bash; sudo grub;find /boot/grub/stage1 <----that should get you a # such as root (hd0,1) or something similar.
[12:03] <Rodel> HOT: THanks
[12:04] <gnomefreak> klos__: here looks nice too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[12:04] <clearzen> clearzen: then setup (hd0) and then exit
[12:04] <nikin> is there any program or option to turn OFF the PC SPEAKER ?
[12:04] <uberushaximus> *box isn't in the repo?
[12:04] <uberushaximus> nikin, rust -r the module
[12:04] <uberushaximus> *just
[12:04] <wols_> !info fluxbox
[12:04] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.15.1+1.0rc2-1 (feisty), package size 899 kB, installed size 2888 kB
[12:05] <nikin> uberushaximus: ty
[12:05] <whtet> how can i upload the software to ubuntu repositories?
[12:05] <Slart> whtet: if you don't know where to look.. I'm not sure you should =)
[12:05] <uberushaximus> whtet, first you need to start a launchpad project
[12:05] <jrib> !packaging >  (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:05] <jrib> !packaging > whtet (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:05] <joejoe300> oops
[12:05] <gnomefreak> whtet: you cant. see #ubuntu-motu
[12:05] <bknitram-> Does upstart
[12:05] <joejoe300> so ctrl+alt+_f2  is like the linux alt+f4?
[12:05] <nikin> 1~
[12:06] <wols_> joejoe300: no
[12:06] <bknitram-> Does upstart start boot processes in parallel?
[12:06] <Slart> whtet: It's a process.. you don't just upload stuff or there would be warez and porn all over.. =)
[12:06] <joejoe300> wols_: i was kidding, but I didn't know how to come back... tried startx
[12:06] <wols_> joejoe300: it's a different virtual terminal ctrl+alt+f1 to f5
[12:06] <wols_> f6
[12:06] <wols_> joejoe300: ctrl+alt+f7
[12:06] <wols_> joejoe300: thats how you get back into X
[12:06] <clearzen> joejoe300: ctrl+alt f7 is your gui
[12:06] <joejoe300> ctrl_alt_f7 is back here?
[12:06] <joejoe300> oh
[12:06] <whtet> ok, thx, i am not uploading the package I have written but i believe might be useful for other
[12:06] <Silencer> Midnight commander crashes with an error - Segmentation fault (core dumped). This happens when I try to copy/move file or directory (press F5 or F6) and one of the panels is changed to "Info". If both panels are "Listing" then there are no problems.
[12:07] <Silencer> any fix ?
[12:07] <joejoe300> before i was just using a terminal within x
[12:07] <Slart> whtet: you can always start hosting it on some webspace of your own.. that way people can at least test it
[12:07] <clearzen> joejoe300: you can have multiple gui's running. up to 4 I think
[12:07] <clearzen> f7-f10 or  11 maybe
[12:08] <joejoe300> hrmm
[12:08] <joejoe300> while i rebooted though (since i didnt know how to get back), i wrote down the errors
[12:08] <joejoe300> so if i try to go to grub from ntdlr it just says "GRUB " (with space) and hangs
[12:08] <joejoe300> if i boot from external though i get the stage 2 loaded and I see all of the options
[12:09] <joejoe300> however if I pick one, I get "error 17: cannot mount selected partition"
[12:09] <joejoe300> is that because grub cannot dynamically change the hdd name when it changes?
[12:09] <wols_> joejoe300: it's cause your bIOS changes the order of drives around depending from what you boot
[12:09] <clearzen> joejoe300: It cannot change the location it loads from
[12:09] <shadeofgrey> anyone here dual boot ubuntu and osx 10.4.9?
[12:10] <wols_> shadeofgrey: ask your real question
[12:10] <clearzen> joejoe300: but you can set it up so it will boot fine
[12:10] <shadeofgrey> that is a real question
[12:10] <scoobydoo28139> jrib:did you read my text?
[12:10] <wols_> !anyone | shadeofgrey
[12:10] <ubotu> shadeofgrey: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:10] <wols_> no it is not
[12:10] <joejoe300> clearzen: where was I before I got lost in alt+ctrl+f2
[12:10] <joejoe300> trying to mount the drive and reinstall drub?
[12:10] <joejoe300> grub*
[12:11] <shadeofgrey> okay
[12:11] <clearzen> joejoe300: yeah one sec. I'll give you the whole thing in one shot
[12:11] <wols_> joejoe300: yes. but you can do it in the alt+f2 terminal as well if you want. or use ctrl+alt+fX where fX is a F key
[12:11] <wols_> try them all. one of them is your X session
[12:11] <shadeofgrey> i saw on the forum a post that said anybody that had 10.4.8 or later didnt need bootcamp installed because it was there already and that refit wouldnt be necessary either is this true?
[12:11] <thekidrio> shadeofgrey, are you wondering if there are install guides for osx and ubuntu?
[12:12] <ikonia> shadeofgrey: thats not true
[12:12] <joejoe300> wols_: im not sure i understand, why is this better than opening up a shell
[12:12] <shadeofgrey> no!
[12:12] <georgy28> shadeofgrey : that's true. Running macOSx and feisty, this way
[12:12] <joejoe300> i have it set to ctrl+alt+x to open a terminal window
[12:12] <ozzloy> how do i start x on multiple virtual terminals?
[12:12] <shadeofgrey> im wondering if theres somebody present that has succesasfully dual booted 10.4.9 and osx
[12:12] <wols_> joejoe300: it's not better. just different. are you still looking for your X session?
[12:12] <ikonia> shadeofgrey: yes
[12:12] <joejoe300> wols_: i found it, im using gui
[12:12] <wols_> k then
[12:13] <shadeofgrey> okay then can you please talk me through it?
[12:13] <ikonia> shadeofgrey: no
[12:13] <clearzen> sudo mkdir /mnt/root; sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/root; sudo mount -t proc none /mnt/root/proc; sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/root/dev; sudo chroot /mnt/root /bin/bash
[12:13] <ikonia> shadeofgrey: there are guides on the ubuntu forums
[12:13] <clearzen> joejoe300: then sudo grub
[12:13] <shadeofgrey> i dont want to risk using a guide when i havent had a chance to talk to someone thats actually done it
[12:13] <clearzen> joejoe300: find /boot/grub/stage1
[12:14] <hivemind> So I recently upgraded my laptop from Edgy to Feisty and now the NetworkManager refuses to connect to my WLAN on startup
[12:14] <ikonia> shadeofgrey: what do you want to know ?
[12:14] <joejoe300> (hd1,0)
[12:14] <joejoe300> how do i make sure that is the external rather than internal drive clearzen
[12:14] <hivemind> It refuses to remember my password like the Edgy NetworkManager would.
[12:14] <shadeofgrey> my computer is my whole life i cant affords to take serious risks -- i need to know where to find an install guide that actually works for people running 10.4.9
[12:14] <clearzen> joejoe300: now type setup (hd1,0)
[12:15] <joejoe300> clearzen: , before i do that, how can i make sure hd1,0 is my external not internal?
[12:15] <ikonia> shadeofgrey: on the ubuntu forums there are guides
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> because i was under the impression i could use diskutil resizeVolume to reorganize my partition
[12:15] <shadeofgrey> but i couldnt get it to run
[12:15] <wols_> shadeofgrey: what makes irc better than the ubuntu forums. we just had someone who told a newbie "rm -rf /" which erased his system
[12:15] <clearzen> joejoe300: fdisk -l should tell you which is your external and which is internal. I'm guessing your external doesn't have swap space
[12:15] <wols_> shadeofgrey: diskutil is not a ubuntu question. ask an OSX forum
[12:16] <joejoe300> clearzen: when I type fdisk -l I only see the external
[12:16] <joejoe300> it has linux, extended, and linux swap
[12:16] <wols_> joejoe300: cat /proc/partitions
[12:16] <joejoe300> but it doesnt give me the physical name (hd(0,1) or anything, just says /dev/sdb
[12:16] <clearzen> joejoe300: why does your external drive have swap space?
[12:16] <shadeofgrey> whats wrong with this command syntax?  sudo diskutil resizeVolume disk1s3 65G JHFS+ ScratchDisk 49G
[12:16] <ikonia> joejoe300: lets cut to the chace - your never going to grasp this so either buy an additional hard disk, or re-size your windows partition
[12:17] <joejoe300> clearzen: thats where I installed ubuntu
[12:17] <mobutu> http://www.shanghaiist.com/archives/2007/05/26/woman_rescued_a.php
[12:17] <ikonia> joejoe300: you've been going around in a circle for hours now
[12:17] <deviantintegral_> shadeofgrey: you can use boot camp to do the actual resizing, then install Ubuntu instead of 'doze
[12:17] <tingle_> what a good CLI mp3 player for ubuntu?
[12:17] <deviantintegral_> shadeofgrey: but really, if you want to be safe then just get parallels, no risk of screwing up your OS X install
[12:18] <deviantintegral_> tingle_: mpg123
[12:18] <mobutu> tingle_: mpg123 , mpg321 , vlc , xmms
[12:18] <xevious> i'm having a strage issue with my nvidia graphics. i have the nvidia driver installed, the Xorg.0.log file says that the GLX module loads, i can use X with the nvidia driver (not nv). however when i try to run glxgears, it says: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0:0". \ Error:  couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[12:18] <joejoe300> wols_: , cat /proc/partitions shows both drives but doesnt give the physical name either (0,0) or (0,1) etc...
[12:18] <deviantintegral_> tingle_: madplay i've used on the linux for the nintendo DS
[12:18] <joejoe300> just says major and minor
[12:18] <joejoe300> columns
[12:18] <xevious> the above issue is on kubuntu feisty
[12:18] <ikonia> joejoe300: it won't give grub references
[12:18] <ikonia> ubuntu knows nothing about grub
[12:19] <tingle_> deviantintegral_: haha great :D
[12:19] <shadeofgrey> okay but what was the dude on the forums talking about when he said that bootcamp is already present on machiknes that are 10.4.9
[12:19] <tingle_> mobutu: thanks
[12:19] <ikonia> shadeofgrey: then ask him !
[12:19] <joejoe300> ubuntu, do you know how I can verifiy that (0,1) is in fact my external drive within grub?
[12:19] <zilus> Hi
[12:19] <ikonia> shadeofgrey: you've been told multiple times now
[12:19] <mobutu> does ubuntu work in a hole ?
[12:19] <ikonia> joejoe300: resize your windows partition, you're a millions miles from getting this
[12:19] <joejoe300> aha! i think i found it
[12:19] <Guest168> hi
[12:19] <zilus> anyone knows how to convert from mp3/ogg to acc, acc+?
[12:19] <ikonia> mobutu: hat ?
[12:19] <ikonia> what
[12:19] <Guest168> i want to know one thing regarding linux...
[12:19] <joejoe300> so from places->computer im looking at properties for the usb disk
[12:20] <ikonia> Guest168: just ask
[12:20] <shadeofgrey> okay fine.  next question:  the version of bootcamp i grabbed is aparently a beta
[12:20] <clearzen> joejoe300: if your external drive eg the drive you are not booting from is sdb it is the wrong number set
[12:20] <ikonia> joejoe300: resize your windows partition
[12:20] <joejoe300> and it says File System ext3 (1,0)
[12:20] <shadeofgrey> whats the link to the mnost stable version available?
[12:20] <clearzen> joejoe300: because I though sdb was the drive you booted from
[12:20] <georgy28> joejoe300 : (0,1) is second partion on /dev/hda
[12:20] <thekidrio> Does anyone know of a quick and dirty floorplan maker for linux?
[12:20] <deviantintegral_> shadeofgrey: yeah bootcamp is still "beta", until 10.5
[12:20] <Guest168> can any one tell me any good script that can shape traffic to 12 KBps to each user
[12:20] <joejoe300> clearzen: im currently booted from LiveCD
[12:20] <joejoe300> clearzen:  but hdb (external) is the drive with ubuntu on it
[12:21] <clearzen> joejoe300: not what I meant. I mean normally do you boot from the external or internal drive?
[12:21] <ikonia> joejoe300: is there a reason your not resizing your windows partition
[12:21] <joejoe300> ikonia: don't want to mess with internal drive
[12:21] <thekidrio> Guest168, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=375362
[12:21] <ikonia> joejoe300: you'll find it easier then the mes your in now
[12:21] <joejoe300> clearzen: normally (windows xp) i use the internal drive
[12:21] <xevious> I've set up 4 computers with kubuntu in the past 2 weeks, and nvidia GLX only worked on 2 of the 4.
[12:21] <thekidrio> shows how to limit bandwidth with squid
[12:22] <clearzen> joejoe300: just resize it. It will be much easier for you I promise
[12:22] <ikonia> clearzen: thank you
[12:22] <Guest168> delay_pools can not stop P2P softwares.....
[12:23] <wols_> !find delay_pools
[12:23] <ubotu> Package/file delay_pools does not exist in feisty
[12:23] <russe11> Does anyone know what "Install with driver update CD" means?
[12:23] <ikonia> russe11: it means if you have a cd containing driver updates
[12:23] <thekidrio> delay_pools is from squid wols, not an ubuntu specific thing
[12:23] <Guest168> delay_pools does not stop the P2P softwares....they are sucking up all my bandwidth
[12:23] <wols_> russe11: driver for what hardware?
[12:24] <russe11> ikonia: Where would I get such a CD?
[12:24] <joejoe300> wols_: you agree with them? I dont quite understand why its so difficult to install on an external drive
[12:24] <tingle> is it possible to add a dir to the 'playlist' of mpg123?
[12:24] <thekidrio> Guest168, hrmm interesting problem hehe
[12:24] <ikonia> russe11: probably doesn't exist
[12:24] <wols_> Guest168: squid is for http via browser only. not for p2p
[12:24] <Guest168> yes that is what i am saying
[12:24] <n2diy> I DLed and installed gnome-games, now I would like to try my hand at making a few changes to Blackjack, where would I find the source files?
[12:24] <thekidrio> wols, i said squid my bad, I did not understand it was p2p
[12:24] <wols_> joejoe300: yes I do. it's enough if you only make a /boot partition even. that can be 100MB small
[12:24] <ikonia> joejoe300: its not hard, but your not getting it, so its easier to just resize the harddisk
[12:24] <russe11> wols_: I'm trying to install with an nvidia 8800 series, and I thought that might help.
[12:24] <IgorSobreira> hi all..anybody could help me with my soynd....i can't play it in Feisty.....i have onboard ATI devica(notebook)
[12:24] <Tru7h> I need some help using the partitioner in the Fiesty LiveCD Installe
[12:24] <wols_> russe11: no it doesn't
[12:24] <wols_> !nvidia | russe11
[12:24] <ubotu> russe11: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:24] <Endlessguitar> hello
[12:25] <joejoe300> ikonia: if its not hard, then what is the issue
[12:25] <neun> wols_ i fixed everything!!! the sound issue was that neither Master nor PCM had any effect, instead surround does the job
[12:25] <Guest168> want to shape whole traffic to 12 KBps per IP address....
[12:25] <ikonia> joejoe300: you don't understand it
[12:25] <ikonia> joejoe300: being blunt
[12:25] <wols_> russe11: and vesa or nv will certainly work until you install the nvidia drivers
[12:25] <ikonia> joejoe300: resizing it will be much easier
[12:25] <dojo> hello i have just switched from fedora core 5 to ubuntu 7.04 and i have installed the ati dbinary drivers but when i play planeshift(a 3d mmorpg) it is slow,I used to be able to play planeshift in fedora core 5
[12:25] <russe11> wols_: so how do I set the live CD to use vesa or nv?
[12:25] <joejoe300> ikonia: I'm not sure how my understanding resulted in this not working
[12:25] <wols_> Guest168: lartc.org. careful: it's vrey complicated. htb and qbc are you friends
[12:25] <wols_> russe11: you simply run it
[12:25] <joejoe300> i asked very specific questions and took everyone's advicse
[12:25] <ikonia> joejoe300: because you don't understand what your trying to do to fix it
[12:25] <joejoe300> advise rather
[12:25] <ikonia> joejoe300: people can only assume things about your system
[12:26] <tingle> is it possible to add a dir to the 'playlist' of mpg123?
[12:26] <wols_> joejoe300: ikonia is right. you don't have the knowlege. all you can do is rote imitation. and we don't have access to your box which makes it hard
[12:26] <clearzen> Guest168: You can use the torrent clients eg. azureus to regulate bandwidth. Monowall can do what you are wanting to do. So can dd-wrt. You can probably do it with tools that come with linux but it would not be the easiest solution
[12:27] <joejoe300> what information have I not given someone to be able to understand the issue?
[12:27] <ikonia> joejoe300: just resize the partition
[12:27] <n2diy> I DLed and installed gnome-games, now I would like to try my hand at making a few changes to Blackjack, where would I find the source files?
[12:28] <joejoe300> I don't have much space on my windows drive
[12:28] <ikonia> n2diy: you need the source packages
[12:28] <dojo> hello i have just switched from fedora core 5 to ubuntu 7.04 and i have installed the ati dbinary drivers but when i play planeshift(a 3d mmorpg) it is slow,I used to be able to play planeshift in fedora core 5
[12:28] <ikonia> joejoe300: you only need 200 meg
[12:28] <ikonia> max
[12:28] <joejoe300> for what
[12:28] <ikonia>  /boot
[12:28] <joejoe300> what does it mean to only have a /boot partition
[12:28] <Chicory> !grub
[12:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:29] <ikonia> joejoe300: its where your boot info is stored
[12:29] <ikonia> you put the rest on your usb disk
[12:29] <wols_> joejoe300: I told you all you need to have on the internal drive is a partion with about 100-200MB for /boot
[12:29] <ikonia> wols_: he's not listening
[12:29] <russe11> wols_: I tried just running it, but it crashes when trying to start X.
[12:29] <russe11> I'll just try the alternate install CD
[12:29] <wols_> joejoe300: then you can install grub on the MBR in the internal disk and it will work even when there is no externa hdd attached
[12:29] <axeeOo> hay guys, I have a strange problem; it seems the only way I can get my Linux distro (ubuntu) to boot is to wait for an initramfs error along the lines of: "job control turned off", upon getting this error I type "modprobe piix", then "exit" and it boots. I have added "piix" to /etc/modules and /etc/initramfs/modules and it *still* wont boot. ideas?
[12:29] <jamie> anyone know why cron ignores cron jobs i have made?
[12:29] <n2diy> ikona, roger that, the info page on synaptic pointed me to www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-games, but that page is not found, any other ideas where the sources might be?
[12:29] <wols_> russe11: dpkg-reconfigure xxserver-xorg then
[12:29] <ikonia> n2diy: as in #gnome
[12:30] <ikonia> jamie: bad synatx
[12:30] <russe11> thanks, wols_
[12:30] <joejoe300> wols_:  so if I create a boot partition on my internal drive
[12:30] <n2diy> ikonia, here on freenet?
[12:30] <ikonia> n2diy: yes
[12:30] <joejoe300> and keep the ext3 and swap partitions on the external drive.... will the liveCD setup work ?
[12:30] <n2diy> ikonia, ty
[12:30] <gnomefreak> runge: only 1 x
[12:30] <jamie> no synatx is good checked and double checked
[12:30] <ikonia> joejoe300: should do
[12:30] <ikonia> jamie: what does the cron log say
[12:30] <dojo> Can someone help me plane shift(a 3d multiplayer rpg) runs slow in ubuntu 7.04 i am uusing ati binary drivers also planeshift used to run fine in fedora core5
[12:30] <Heptofite> apt isn't letting me install the ndis packages
[12:30] <BlueBird22> nickrud hi
[12:30] <wols_> n2diy: apt-get source gnome-games
[12:30] <wols_> Heptofite: full error please
[12:31] <jamie> were is cron log?
[12:31] <n2diy> wols_: ah thanks.
[12:31] <Tru7h> How exactly do I get the Fiesty LiveCD Install Partitioner thing to make a partition for ubuntu out of some free space on my windows NTFS partition?
[12:31] <wols_> joejoe300: /var/log/syslog.1.gz
[12:31] <jamie> sys log is it not?
[12:31] <weird12> how do i install ati driver on ubuntu? already tried wiki
[12:31] <Heptofite> wols_, full error = package not found ndisgtk
[12:31] <wols_> ati | weird12
[12:31] <IgorSobreira> hi all..anybody could help me with my soynd....i can't play it in Feisty.....i have onboard ATI devica(notebook)
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Heptofite: feisty?
[12:31] <wols_> Heptofite: then search for it. probably named differently
[12:31] <Heptofite> gnomefreak, yes
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Heptofite: ok hold on a sec
[12:31] <dojo> Can someone help me plane shift(a 3d multiplayer rpg) runs slow in ubuntu 7.04 i am uusing ati binary drivers also planeshift used to run fine in fedora core5
[12:32] <Pelo> weird12, first try menu >system > admin > restricted driver if that doesn't work come back and we'll give you someting else to try
[12:32] <weird12> ok
[12:32] <Pelo> dojo, maybe you'll find an answer in the forum
[12:32] <gnomefreak> Heptofite: enable universe repos?
[12:32] <Stormx2> Folks, is there an easy way to reverse the lines in a file? First line becomes last, last line becomes first, etc.
[12:32] <Heptofite> gnomefreak, yes
[12:32] <joejoe300> wols_:  so I would install in manual mode.... liveCD will automatically set up the /boot partition and use the external drive for the rest of the storage?
[12:32] <dojo> Pelo, thx ill take a look
[12:32] <Heptofite> er
[12:33] <Tru7h> How exactly do I get the Fiesty LiveCD Install Partitioner thing to make a partition for ubuntu out of some free space on my windows NTFS partition?
[12:33] <Heptofite> crap
[12:33] <gnomefreak> Heptofite: can you please paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[12:33] <iMacThere4iAm> hi, any idea why restricted drivers manager tells me i don't need any restricted drivers when i really do?
[12:33] <ikonia> joejoe300: if you installing manuall - why do you expected the livecd to set it up automatically
[12:33] <Heptofite> its failing to update
[12:33] <Heptofite> i ran apt-get update and it threw an error on the last package list
[12:33] <ikonia> iMacThere4iAm: you may already have them in
[12:33] <gnomefreak> Heptofite: need an error
[12:33] <joejoe300> ikonia:  not actually manually, but within the liveCD options (partitioning) "manual"
[12:33] <wols_> joejoe300: you have to partition yourself probably
[12:33] <iMacThere4iAm> ikonia: how do I tell>
[12:33] <wols_> tell it that / is the external hdd and /boot is interal partition
[12:33] <ikonia> joejoe300: if you partition it manually and layout the file system it should be fine
[12:33] <Heptofite> gnomefreak, give me a sec, it takes a while to retype the error
[12:34] <gnomefreak> Heptofite: k
[12:34] <ikonia> joejoe300: I'm wondering if your better off staying with windows
[12:34] <eugman> Hey how can I rip something on a dvd so I can do some editing
[12:34] <ikonia> joejoe300: your going to find this very alien
[12:34] <joejoe300> thanks for the input ikonia
[12:34] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: i guess that would depend on what driver you think you need and what hardware is it for
[12:34] <Pelo> eugman, dvd2avi
[12:34] <TurtleBoots> hello ladies
[12:34] <wols_> TurtleBoots: hello sweetie
[12:35] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: it's for an NVidia Geforce 6600
[12:35] <TurtleBoots> wols ;-)
[12:35] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[12:35] <livingtm> my feisty system wont boot after the kernel update earlier in the week. Was wondering if someone could help me out. One of the symptoms is all of the drives that used to be /dev/sdaX are now /dev/hdaX
[12:35] <Heptofite> Failed to fetch http://(removed for length)/dists/feisty/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) \
[12:35] <joejoe300> ikonia: why hang out in a ubuntu channel which is default for everybody who pops in a liveCD if your interest is only helping who already know and understand unix/linux very well
[12:35] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: that should let you know
[12:35] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: ok
[12:35] <joejoe300> are there not better places to answer questions that arn't below you?
[12:35] <clearzen> Tru7h: I believe you have to have ntfs-3g installed to write to a NTFS partition
[12:35] <ikonia> joejoe300: thats not my interest at all, but you seem unable to read or understand
[12:36] <gnomefreak> Heptofite: what mirror example http://us.archive
[12:36] <Heptofite> yes, us.archive
[12:36] <TurtleBoots> yeah ikona - feck off!
[12:36] <clearzen> Tru7h: So goto accessories --> terminal sudo aptitiude install ntfs-3g
[12:36] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: Installed (None), Candidate (None)
[12:36] <Tru7h> Clearzen: You mean install ubuntu on an NTFS File system?
[12:36] <ikonia> gnomefreak: come on ?
[12:36] <ikonia> TurtleBoots: thats uncalled for
[12:36] <gnomefreak> Heptofite: edit your sources.list file and take all us. out of them
[12:36] <clearzen> Tru7h: No to resize it
[12:36] <gnomefreak> ikonia: what?
[12:36] <Heptofite> gnomefreak, okay....
[12:36] <clearzen> Tru7h: You want to use ext3 for the ubuntu partition
[12:36] <joejoe300> ikonia: I still dont see any point where I couldnt understand what you are telling me.... unless by understanding you mean I should have already known what you were talking about
[12:36] <ikonia> ta
[12:36] <gnomefreak> ikonia: kind of busy thank you though
[12:36] <Tru7h> Clearzen: Okay, yeah. Thats what I'm trying to do. I'll try that.
[12:37] <joejoe300> and dont it without needing to ask
[12:37] <Tru7h> Thanks
[12:37] <clearzen> Tru7h: np
[12:37] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-new
[12:37] <ikonia> joejoe300: I have told you wols_ has told you, and someone else told you and you don't seem to get it, you've been at it for hours
[12:37] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: you need to enable multiverse repo
[12:37] <ikonia> joejoe300: that suggests your either struggling to read it clearly or understand
[12:38] <joejoe300> ikonia: if someone was trying to explain one thing to me, and I was never able to do it, that would make sense
[12:38] <gnomefreak> !repos > iMacThere4iAm  ( iMacThere4iAm please read the pm ubotu sent you it tells you how to enable repos)
[12:38] <mneptok> joejoe300: to be fair, if you "don't know unix/linux very well" then using external storage as live filesystems may be a bit too adventurous. why not learn the basics?
[12:38] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: thank you
[12:38] <eugman> Pelo, thanks
[12:38] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: yw
[12:38] <jamie> anyone know what this means  WRONG INODE INFO (crontabs/www-data) this is from syslog
[12:38] <ikonia> joejoe300: I'm not going to debate this with you, I know what my input into this channel is
[12:38] <wols_> joejoe300: what you need is someone who does all the work for you. but that is not what #ubuntu or irc can do. if you need such a person: hire a consultant
[12:39] <ikonia> jamie: yes, it means the inode on your file system contains the wrong data, what are you doing to get that error message
[12:39] <KanRiNiN> I thinking about building an easy box that does word processing and browsing extremely well but nothing else for an older friend.  Any suggestions for window environments?  I want it to be an almost instant boot up.
[12:39] <Heptofite> gnomefreak, its updating again, why did it throw that error, is there somethign wrong with the US mirror?
[12:39] <BlueBird22> how to make a symlink from /dev/ttySL0 to /dev/modem?
[12:39] <IgorSobreira> hi all..anybody could help me with my soynd....i can't play it in Feisty.....i have onboard ATI devica(notebook)
[12:39] <wols_> joejoe300: irc is help for self help. not "i type down exactly what you tell me"
[12:39] <gnomefreak> Heptofite: us mirrors go down odten
[12:39] <Chicory> I have a friend in town whose MBR/GRUB died.
[12:39] <gnomefreak> often
[12:39] <ikonia> wols_: exactly
[12:39] <Tru7h> Clearzen: I tried sudo aptitiude install ntfs-3g, but it said command not found, so I tried sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g and it ran through about 4 lines of stuff and said it couldn't find the package
[12:39] <Chicory> He's uninstalling Ubuntu and going with purely XP.
[12:39] <Chicory> How can I fix his MBR using a LiveCD?
[12:40] <wols_> Chicory: he can't. he needs a windows cd to get ntldr again
[12:40] <ikonia> Chicory: boot from a windows xp cd and use the fixmbr option
[12:40] <TakeOut{u}> i don't believe you can reinstall ntldr
[12:40] <eugman> Pelo, Hmmm is that in the repos or do I need to compile?
[12:40] <mneptok> Chicory: the XP reinstall will write an Windows MBR
[12:40] <wols_> TakeOut{u}: you believe wrng
[12:40] <hellothere> hey guys.  i'm trying to share printers between two dapper machines.  the client is trying to print and server cups error log errors out with ...  Unable to find IP address for server name "workstation5663"!
[12:40] <Chicory> Well, okay, failing that --
[12:40] <c1|freaky> is it possible to lock ssh sessions after a specific time? eg. i log in using ssh to my server. i do some stuff. after 5 minutes of inactivity some kind of screensaver (blank or cmatrix) starts itself, passwordprotected (the pass of the user) is that possible?
[12:40] <stanko87> But there will not be ubuntu at boot
[12:40] <Chicory> Is there some way to fix GRUB through a LiveCD utility?
[12:40] <ikonia> hellothere: probably dns is failing to resolve an IP address
[12:40] <Heptofite> Chicory, boot the recovery console on the windows xp CD, type fixmbr, that will write a new bootstrap, then reinstall grub from the ubuntu cd
[12:40] <stanko87> there must be
[12:40] <ikonia> Chicory: yes
[12:40] <Tru7h> Clearzen: I tried sudo aptitiude install ntfs-3g, but it said command not found, so I tried sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g and it ran through about 4 lines of stuff and said it couldn't find the package
[12:40] <wols_> hellothere: use the IP or fix your dns
[12:40] <joejoe300> wols_: Its not as though I waited for every command.... but why wouldn't I try to run syntax by you when dealing with a harddrive/filesystem
[12:41] <thekidrio> Chicory, yeah boot live, chroot to your main file system and resinstall grub
[12:41] <ikonia> joejoe300: stop arguing and start installing
[12:41] <Chicory> Oh, okie dokie.
[12:41] <hellothere> wols_, i did use ip ... but what about fixing the dns?
[12:41] <Chicory> Any howtos on that?
[12:41] <wols_> Chicory: you've been told wrong. at least when windows is the only OS on the machine
[12:41] <joejoe300> for most other things, obviously guess and check is fine but making mistakes with harddrives sucks
[12:41] <Pelo> eugman, you might have to compile it
[12:41] <thekidrio> !grub
[12:41] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:41] <Pelo> eugman,  you'll also need the rest of the dvd stuff
[12:41] <Pelo> !dvd | eugman
[12:41] <wols_> hellothere: easiest is to fix /etc/hosts. man hosts
[12:41] <ubotu> eugman: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[12:41] <thekidrio> Chicory, its the recovering ubuntu one shoulud take you along
[12:41] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, Hi I am looking at Jamie's machine. It appears Cron is not looking at the user's crontabs.  I do :   * * * * * /bin/date > /tmp/date   and no such file is created in tmp.
[12:41] <Tru7h> Clearzen: I tried sudo aptitiude install ntfs-3g, but it said command not found, so I tried sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g and it ran through about 4 lines of stuff and said it couldn't find the package
[12:42] <Chicory> Ah.
[12:42] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: hi there, is he in the cron.allow file ?
[12:42] <wols_> !ntfs-3g > Tru7h
[12:42] <Chicory> "Lost Grub After Installing Windows", maybe?
[12:42] <clearzen> Tru7h: I'm not entirely sure you need it in the first place to install but to download it enable the univery repos
[12:42] <wols_> Chicory: no
[12:42] <gnomefreak> Chicory: yes
[12:42] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: also your doing > not >> /tmp/date
[12:42] <wols_> Chicory: you don't want grub you want windows to boot
[12:42] <clearzen> Tru7h: One sec I'll give you directions
[12:42] <Tru7h> clearzen: Thanks
[12:42] <dojo> Can someone help me when i play planeshift in ubuntu 7.04 it is choppy, I have alrdey properly installed the ati binary drivers,I have looked on the fourm and still no answer also planeshift used to run well on fedora core 5
[12:42] <clearzen> Tru7h: btw it's aptitude I spelled it wrong the first time
[12:42] <Heptofite> you know, having a laptop with a dodgy DVD drive is kind of liberating, i don;'t have to fight with ubuntu for dvd playback :D
[12:42] <aricz> Uhm, what's the command to see which processes is running?
[12:42] <dpak> All my players, including vlc, are not playing avi files correctly. There is a second of video and sound. Then the video is gone, so I get only sound. I got win32 codecs, and still I experience same problem. Help please?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> wols_: does he not have ubuntu installed?
[12:43] <wols_> 00:39 < Chicory> He's uninstalling Ubuntu and going with purely XP.
[12:43] <Tru7h> Clearzen: Ahh, I'll try that then
[12:43] <wols_> gnomefreak: no he has not
[12:43] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, Jamie doesn't have a cron.allow file on his machine.
[12:43] <hellothere> wols_,  is there a way to reset the hosts file via interface/script of some sort? i know that is set by the installer by default perfectly
[12:43] <gnomefreak> wols_: he can use windows disk to do it. send him to ##windows :)
[12:43] <xevious> I have to say
[12:43] <noob>  /join #ronpaul
[12:43] <xevious> i'm verging on ditching kubuntu
[12:43] <brendan_> Hello, I'm using the latest version of ubuntu and i was wonering how can i get xmms to recognise my media keys on this laptop. every other media player recognises them.
[12:43] <wols_> Chicory: with a pure XP, the ONLY way is to boot the windows CD and run fixmbr. but that is not a ubuntu question
[12:43] <asdf> can anyone recommend an application to easy create an encrypted virtual HD in ubuntu?
[12:43] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: what ubuntu version is he using
[12:43] <wols_> hellothere: no. edit it
[12:43] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, Feisty
[12:43] <xevious> i cant believe i'm considering going back to windows
[12:43] <dojo> Can someone help me when i play planeshift in ubuntu 7.04 it is choppy, I have alrdey properly installed the ati binary drivers,I have looked on the fourm and still no answer also planeshift used to run well on fedora core 5
[12:43] <hellothere> ikonia, *nod* i didn't expect cups to haveto resolve a print request made out to a specific ip address
[12:44] <xevious> i know my 3d card will work in windows
[12:44] <wols_> hellothere: and it's not set up perfectly or that remote host would be in there, now would it?
[12:44] <clearzen> Go to system>>administration>>settings>>repositories> click them all and update
[12:44] <ikonia> xevious: this is ubuntu support - join #windows
[12:44] <wols_> xevious: what card is it?
[12:44] <colbert> what command do I use to find for example game.zip ??
[12:44] <joejoe300> chicory: I just had to do that and thought I was stuck because my dell didn't come with a complete winXP CD... there is a program called Paragon Partition something which can fix your mbr within windows
[12:44] <dpak> All my players, including vlc, are not playing avi files correctly. There is a second of video and sound. Then the video is gone, so I get only sound. I got win32 codecs, and still I experience same problem. Help please?
[12:44] <xevious> wols_: oollld geforce2 gts
[12:44] <joejoe300> Chicory:  worked fine for me without needing recovery mode
[12:44] <hellothere> wols_, its not setup perfectly by me, it is setup perfectly by the installer
[12:44] <wols_> colbert: man find. man locate.
[12:44] <gnomefreak> xevious: without asking question to get help with please join #ubuntu-offtopic to complain
[12:44] <Pelo> colbert,   locate  name
[12:44] <xevious> i asked and no one responded
[12:44] <wols_> xevious: nvidia-legacy for ubuntu
[12:44] <moo-foo> find / -name example.zip
[12:44] <xevious> that was about half an hour ago
[12:44] <xevious> wols_: oh i know
[12:45] <wols_> !nvidia | xevious
[12:45] <ubotu> xevious: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:45] <clearzen> Tru7h:Go to system>>administration>>settings>>repositories> click them all and update
[12:45] <xevious> scroll about 12000 lines up for the description of the problem
[12:45] <asdf> can anyone recommend good encryption software?
[12:45] <aricz> Hoi, what's the command in console for getting a list on the procesess running?
[12:45] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: bare with me pelase
[12:45] <wols_> asdf: to encrypt what?
[12:45] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, thanks.
[12:45] <georgy28> aricz : ps aux
[12:45] <xevious> wols_: i have the correct drivers installed
[12:45] <asdf> wols_, just various files
[12:45] <xevious> wols_: i've followed the procedures
[12:45] <clearzen> Tru7h: then sudo aptitude install ntfs-3g
[12:45] <aricz> georgy28 : thanks
[12:45] <wols_> asdf: gpg. for encrypting filesystems: truecrypt
[12:45] <xevious> wols_: i'm using X with the nvidia drivers right now. but GLX doesnt work
[12:45] <TakeOut{u}> !info ntfs
[12:45] <ubotu> Package ntfs does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:45] <wols_> xevious: then tell us the error(s)
[12:45] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: if you do a crontab -l you see the users cront I assume
[12:45] <colbert> how do I get out of man find and back to shell ?
[12:45] <asdf> wols_: thanks
[12:45] <preaction> colbert: q
[12:45] <ikonia> colbert: "q"
[12:46] <xevious> wols_: Xorg.0.log shows that GLX loads, but glxgears crashes saying that GLX isnt loaded
[12:46] <colbert> thx
[12:46] <wols_> colbert: q
[12:46] <dpak> All my players, including vlc, are not playing avi files correctly. There is a second of video and sound. Then the video is gone, so I get only sound. I got win32 codecs, and still I experience same problem. Help please?
[12:46] <Tru7h> Clearzen: I don't see "settings"
[12:46] <Nick_Hill> # crontab -l -u www-data gives the users cron entries
[12:46] <wols_> xevious: dpkg -l |gre nvidia. paste that in a pastebin
[12:46] <gnomefreak> grep
[12:46] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, # crontab -l -u www-data gives the users cron entries
[12:46] <wols_> dpak: what X video driver?
[12:46] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: ww-data user doesn't / shouldn't have a shell
[12:46] <dpak> wols_: Not sure. How do I check?
[12:47] <ikonia> oh yes it does
[12:47] <ikonia> sorry
[12:47] <Nick_Hill> I can # su www-data
[12:47] <wols_> Nick_Hill: grep www-data /etc/passwd
[12:47] <joejoe300> The ubuntu installer requires me to pick a partition with 2GB for the root....
[12:47] <ikonia> joejoe300: yes
[12:47] <xevious> wols_: uh. pastebin isnt working.
[12:47] <wols_> joejoe300: yes. and your external hdd has that much space
[12:47] <xevious> wols_: any other paste sites?
[12:47] <ikonia> for the 25th time
[12:47] <wols_> !paste | xevious
[12:47] <ubotu> xevious: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:48] <Nick_Hill> wols_, www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh
[12:48] <xevious> wols_: i was on pastebin.com
[12:48] <joejoe300> does this mean I cannot use the installer though, since it doesnt seem powerful enough to let me select one drive for the boot partition and another for the swap/root
[12:48] <wols_> xevious: I know
[12:48] <mneptok> ikonia: there's no "QUEUE" icon! HELP!
[12:48] <ikonia> mneptok: you can have the money - its not worth it
[12:48] <wols_> joejoe300:  it is powerful enough
[12:48] <gnomefreak> xevious: if that isnt working try pastebin.ca
[12:48] <ikonia> joejoe300: windows is your friend
[12:48] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: I had enabled all the repositories already
[12:48] <xevious> wols_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23511/
[12:48] <mneptok> ikonia: it's at least enough for a Kevorkian Cocktail.
[12:48] <clearzen> Tru7h: sorry you have to go to Synaptic Package Manager first
[12:49] <clearzen> Tru7h: then settings
[12:49] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: no you didnt. or you would have had a canidate entry
[12:49] <Tru7h> Okay
[12:49] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: still looking, not forgot
[12:49] <joejoe300> ikonia: You learned linux at some point, right?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: make sure you take the lines that end in universe and you add a space than the word multiverse
[12:49] <ikonia> joejoe300: yes "I learnt"
[12:49] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: or use synaptic to do it
[12:49] <Tru7h> Clearzen: I might be able to figure it out, I found the gnome partition editor, I've been trying to use the one on the installer.
[12:49] <wols_> xevious: and you chose "nivide" with sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: you most likely have backports universe and multiverse enabled
[12:49] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, wols_ I notice in syslog May 31 23:43:41 jamie-desktop kernel: [22623.060000]  powernow-k8: failing targ, change pending bit set  could that have a bearing?
[12:49] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: i did use synaptic actually
[12:50] <dpak> wols_: Not sure. How do I check?
[12:50] <wols_> xevious: and nivida kernel module is loaded?
[12:50] <clever[rev] > if i install ubuntu 7.04 in a partition beside windows98 will grub automaticaly have a working option to boot 98 up?
[12:50] <xevious> wols_: i did sudo nvida-xconfig
[12:50] <xevious> wols_: and yes the kernel module is loaded
[12:50] <ikonia>  Nick_Hillthats interesting, sort of half suggests it can't use cron the binary
[12:50] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[12:50] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: or some other binary
[12:50] <Solet> if i do a lamp install can i make apache fuck off later (dont need it, and i doubt the machine can run apache php and mysql at the same time)
[12:50] <wols_> dpak: look in xorg.conf
[12:50] <xevious> wols_: this same exact drive worked perfectly in debian
[12:50] <ikonia> Solet: that language is uncalled for
[12:50] <ikonia> Solet: VERY uncalled for
[12:50] <xevious> wols_: s/drive/driver
[12:50] <wols_> Solet: you can install software any time
[12:51] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23512/
[12:51] <wols_> xevious: who says anything about the drive?
[12:51] <xevious> wols_: i meant driver
[12:51] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, wols_ I was thinking the powernow-k8 might remotely be messing witht he io-apic which creates interrupts
[12:51] <wols_> xevious: yes but maybe the isntall procedure is fscked up
[12:51] <ikonia> thats a pretty bold statment for cron not running
[12:51] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: wait, i feel like a fool now :P
[12:51] <Solet> ikonia: my appologies i didnt know this channel had language rules :(
[12:52] <Solet> wols_: but will removing apache break anything in php or mysql?
[12:52] <ikonia> Solet: yes
[12:52] <ikonia> php can't run without apache
[12:52] <ikonia> in real terms
[12:52] <xevious> wols_: kernel module loads fine, Xorg log file says everything is loading right, and then when i try to run any glx program _in the usable X session, using the nvidia driver (not nv)_ it segfaults or just complains that GLX isnt loaded
[12:52] <wols_> sp4rKy: mp
[12:52] <clever[rev] > ikonia: what about php-cli?
[12:52] <wols_> Solet: no
[12:52] <Solet> ikonia: you're a filthy liar, i'm running php right now with out it
[12:52] <LjL> ikonia: how so? Metabot is in PHP, and i have no apache :)
[12:52] <ikonia> I said in real terms
[12:52] <ikonia> it "can" run
[12:52] <clever[rev] > i use the php cli alot for cron scripts and that doesnt depend on my apache
[12:52] <ikonia> perhaps I should have been clear
[12:53] <clever> if i install ubuntu 7.04 in a partition beside windows98 will grub automaticaly have a working option to boot 98 up?
[12:53] <georgy28> clever, : yes
[12:53] <wols_> clever: yes
[12:53] <gnomefreak> clever: should
[12:53] <Solet> clearity helps, i've never built a php/sql server that wasnt a web server
[12:53] <clever> k just wanted to be safe:)
[12:53] <ikonia> Solet: thats fair enough, my apologies. It depends how you want to use php
[12:53] <clever> and im guessing gparted can resize a fat32?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> clever: yes
[12:54] <georgy28> clever : yes
[12:54] <clever> good:)
[12:54] <Wips> Anyone know of a text editor with syntax highlighting for php, css, xhtml etc etc available for Ubuntu?
[12:54] <Xenguy> Wips: vim :P
[12:54] <ikonia> Wips: vi
[12:54] <ikonia> emacs
[12:54] <clever> Wips: vi
[12:54] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: is this right? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23512/
[12:54] <Wips> Emacs was hard.. didnt figure it out
[12:54] <dpak> wols_: x11?
[12:54] <LjL> !code > Wips    (Wips, see the private message from Ubotu)
[12:55] <Wips> Could anyone just help me get around emacs? I dont understand it..
[12:55] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: looks right
[12:55] <gnrfan> Wips: I guess you already tried gedit, what did you miss there?
[12:55] <wols_> dpak: x11 is not a videocard driver. it's an output mode for some players tho
[12:55] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: try sudo apt-get update (after you close synaptic)
[12:55] <dpak> o
[12:55] <dpak> that
[12:55] <Wips> gedit? I tried gPHPedit.. but I couldnt find any syntax hightlighting..
[12:56] <LjL> Wips, gedit. the editor that's included by default in the Ubuntu GUI.
[12:56] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, wols_ rmmodding the powernow-k8 has stopped the messages in syslog but has not started cron jobs from the users crontabs.
[12:56] <mwe> Wips emacs has a steap learning curve but it is well worth the effort
[12:56] <xevious> i give up
[12:56] <xevious> who needs 3d
[12:56] <xevious> peace
[12:56] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: thats a good fix, but I don't see how it can be related to cron. Still a good fix though
[12:56] <faight> is a mod around? please
[12:57] <LjL> faight: what's the issue?
[12:57] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: have you updated restricted-manager or install it recently?
[12:57] <dpak> wols_: It's the video driver for Intel 945GM
[12:57] <Wips> mwe: mm... I Figured, I couldnt even find out how create a new file .. heh
[12:57] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: i think it was updated by update manager when i logged on today
[12:57] <faight> LjL yer not a mod
[12:57] <faight> no offense
[12:57] <ksnipz> was wondering if someone could me, I'm using ubuntu and I've installed all the aac codecs but when I try to run ffmpeg with -acodec aac I get a aac codec not found error, anyone have any ideas on how I could fix this? I've tried recompiling and installing from source with the enable libfaac option but still nothing
[12:57] <LjL> faight: what is a mod?
[12:57] <faight> moderator
[12:58] <Wips> mwe: So Emacs have syntax highlighting? I just gotta find the right way around it?
[12:58] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, wols_ it appears cron is running crons from /etc/cron.d but not user's crontabs.
[12:58] <LjL> faight: IRC doesn't have "moderators" to my knowledge.
[12:58] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm:  try running update than give me the installed and canidate info from apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[12:58] <mwe> Wips right
[12:58] <wols_> dpak: i915?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: give me a few minutes
[12:58] <mneptok> faight: what do you need?
[12:58] <dpak> wols_: Yes, i915
[12:58] <thekidrio> anyone here use a powerEdge 2650  and if so, whats the proggie I need to recondition my battery?
[12:58] <mwe> Wips I recommend googling for a nice howto
[12:58] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: if cron.allow AND cron.deny is not there some systems will only allow root crons, but the docs suggest debian systems will allow all users
[12:59] <mwe> Wips the documentation that comes with it is somewhat hairy
[12:59] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23515/
[12:59] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, I have never noticed problems on Debian with cron. I'll try on my feisty right here..
[12:59] <faight> is a mod, sysop, staff around? plz
[12:59] <BlueBird22>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent says i dont need anything like a driver or ltmodem. and its says you need to have a symlink created on boot (from /dev/ttyLTM0 to /dev/modem).   if  i follow all that.  and is my modem on ttyLTM0 ? i doubt it
[12:59] <mneptok> faight: what do you need?
[12:59] <LjL> faight: what. is. the. issue.
[12:59] <faight> heh
[12:59] <mneptok> faight: what do you need?
[12:59] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: me neither as I said the docs say debian based systems should allow all users without allow/deny files
[12:59] <Tru7h> I'll brb
[12:59] <bulltitan> i have a problem compiling stellarium if anyone can tell me what is wrong i have the error output here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23514/
[01:00] <jackal_> hello everyone. Does anyone know how to get Beryl to run when Ubuntu boots up?
[01:00] <faight> will you plz unban my other nick because of the port bug issue
[01:00] <PriceChild> faight, what nick?
[01:00] <mwe> Wips emacs can do almost anything. even play chess, whatever that has to do with editing, though ;)
[01:00] <LjL> faight: you didn't read the topic in #ubuntu-read-topic which said to ask in #ubuntu-ops, did you?
[01:00] <PriceChild> faight, why didn't you follow instructions and join -ops ?
[01:00] <faight> ezE pricechild
[01:00] <ikonia> LjL: don't be silly
[01:00] <wols_> bulltitan: get build-essentials
[01:00] <jackal_> anyone know anything about beryl
[01:01] <bulltitan> ok i'll be back with more news
[01:01] <scoobydoo28139> will this comand open linux installer on cd  sudo /media/cdrom0/linux-installer.sh?
[01:01] <georgy28> bulltitan :http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=crt1.o&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386
[01:02] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, wols_ Strange. I have exactly same prob on my machine.
[01:02] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: hwhat are you trying to install
[01:02] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: and yours is ubuntu
[01:02] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: ther eis something really wrong i suggest replacing your repos with known working ones. i will put my feisty list on pastebin
[01:02] <thekidrio> hey ikonia , LjL or wols, do any of you know what proggie I use to recondition my dell battery?
[01:02] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: ut2004
[01:02] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, Mine is Feisty 7.04
[01:02] <fangorious> anyone have trouble changing their resolution using the ati driver with an ati x700 (actually a firegl v5000, but the driver calls it an x700)?
[01:02] <RedJelloBreath> !paste
[01:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:02] <BlueBird22>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent says i dont need anything like a driver or ltmodem. and its says you need to have a symlink created on boot (from /dev/ttyLTM0 to /dev/modem).   if  i follow all that.  and is my modem on ttyLTM0 ? i doubt it
[01:02] <bulltitan> georgy28  what is the link?
[01:02] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: you'll probably be better copuing it to hard disk as when it uncompresses it will want some temp space
[01:03] <ikonia> thekidrio: no idea
[01:03] <fangorious> using feisty, btw
[01:03] <wols_> fangorious: ati driver or fglrx?
[01:03] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, I do crontab -e then on line 2 * * * * * /bin/date >/tmp/date
[01:03] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: you could try creating cron.allow
[01:03] <ikonia> and adding your user
[01:03] <ikonia> docs say it shouldn't be needed but maybe ubuntu changed that
[01:03] <Wips> Am I wrong, Or do I in Emacs, have to create a file before I start coding?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: try this list. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23518/plain/
[01:03] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: i just want to know how to install my game can you help??
[01:03] <fangorious> wols_: ati driver, fglrx can change resolution but doesn't support custom modelines
[01:03] <gnomefreak> ill be back in a while have some things to do
[01:03] <Tarkus> hey, anyone have any idea why when i look at my video files (thumbnails).. it only shows an image in a few of the thumbnails, the rest are an icon that looks like a tape/reel?
[01:03] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: copy the contents of the cd to a space on the file system and run the installer
[01:03] <wols_> fangorious: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:04] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, I have looked at the manual for cron. No mention of cron.allow. Where should Iplace it, and what is the syntax?
[01:04] <BlueBird22>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent says i dont need anything like a driver or ltmodem. and its says you need to have a symlink created on boot (from /dev/ttyLTM0 to /dev/modem).   if  i follow all that.  and is my modem on ttyLTM0 ? i doubt it
[01:04] <RedJelloBreath> hi, when i do sudo apt-get -f install i get this error message -->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23519/
[01:04] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: I have 7 cd's
[01:04] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: /etc/cron.allow and look at "man crontab" not man cron
[01:04] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: same result...
[01:04] <fangorious> wols_: I've redone the config plenty of times
[01:04] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: you only need one for linux
[01:04] <bulltitan> ops when i try to install the build essentials synaptic wants to get rid of my kernel headers :(
[01:04] <RedJelloBreath> i use etch
[01:04] <georgy28> bulltitan, : crt1.o is missing, so i search in wich package this file is present
[01:04] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: thats not possable as i am using them here fine.
[01:04] <ikonia> RedJelloBreath: this is ubuntu not debian support
[01:04] <bulltitan> i see
[01:05] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: did you run sudo apt-get update?
[01:05] <RedJelloBreath> i have ubuntu
[01:05] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: could it be having problems with my hardware then?
[01:05] <ikonia> RedJelloBreath: you've just told me your using etch
[01:05] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: oops, no
[01:05] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: not likely
 i use etch
[01:05] <mwe> Wips if you want to learn emacs, start by taking the built in tutorial
[01:05] <foug_> anyone know the command for bittornado? trying to add it to the "Open With" menu
[01:05] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: updating now
[01:05] <RedJelloBreath> oh srry
[01:05] <RedJelloBreath> thats on my other puter
[01:06] <RedJelloBreath> edgy
[01:06] <RedJelloBreath> i ment
[01:06] <axeeOo> guys, the only way I can get my system to boot from hdd is to type "modprobe piix" each time, could someone help me fix this please
[01:06] <bulltitan> just so u know if i let synaptic delete these headers ill die cos i use kernel 2.6.17 not the newest
[01:06] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: tha late me know if you see a canidate with apt-cache policy nvidia-glx
[01:06] <ikonia> RedJelloBreath: show me lsb_release -a
[01:06] <ezE> how does a n00b run a BIN file via terminal or otherwise?
[01:06] <Tarkus> hey, anyone have any idea why when i look at my video files (thumbnails).. it only shows an image in a few of the thumbnails, the rest are an icon that looks like a tape/reel?   http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1433/screenshotseason3filebrdx5.png
[01:06] <ikonia> ezE: ./$file
[01:06] <gnomefreak> ezE: sh filename.bin
[01:06] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: done, and nothing :(
[01:06] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: ok i made a file and then i am copy pasting the cd into it rite?
[01:06] <ezE> thanks
[01:06] <RedJelloBreath> No LSB modules are available.
[01:06] <RedJelloBreath> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[01:06] <RedJelloBreath> Description:    Ubuntu 6.10
[01:06] <RedJelloBreath> Release:        6.10
[01:06] <RedJelloBreath> Codename:       edgy
[01:07] <mwe> axeeOo how do you type that before booting?
[01:07] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: there is something wrong with your sources.list file than or you are not using mine alone (without yours enabled(
[01:07] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: if you want
[01:07] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, wols_ I added /etc/cron.allow then put my username in. No joy.
[01:07] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: no, i replaced mine with yours entirely
[01:08] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: it was a long shot
[01:08] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: my output nvidia-glx: Installed: (none) Candidate: 1:1.0.9631+2.6.20.5-16.28
[01:08] <mwe> axeeOo if you just want to know how to autoload a module, the answer is to put the name of it in /etc/modules
[01:08] <gnomefreak> iMacThere4iAm: i know they work as i listed them.
[01:08] <bulltitan> is there a way to install build-essentials without uninstalling  the kernel headers?
[01:08] <axeeOo> mwe, I get an "initramfs" error regarding job control being turned off, I type "modprobe piix" then "exit". The system boots
[01:08] <gnomefreak> bulltitan: yes sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:08] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, wols_ Looks like someone else may have a similar problem. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2748240
[01:08] <gnomefreak> bulltitan: maybe old headers are being removed?
[01:08] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: researching
[01:08] <mwe> bulltitan build-essential does not depend on the kernel headers
[01:08] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: do they work on powerpc as well as intel?
[01:09] <axeeOo> mwe, I have "piix" saved in both /etc/modules and /etc/initramfs-tools/modules, it still refuses to boot though
[01:09] <bulltitan> i see
[01:09] <mwe> axeeOo how do you modprobe before booting?
[01:09] <bulltitan> ok let me try
[01:09] <axeeOo> yes mwe, in the initramfs error console (thing)
[01:09] <RedJelloBreath> ikonia i added it ^^^^^
[01:09] <axeeOo> it's the *only* way I can get it to boot
[01:10] <mwe> oh
[01:10] <axeeOo> mwe, once booted it's fine - I just need to modprobe piix EVERY time i reboot, rather annoying :-)
[01:11] <mwe> axeeOo maybe you need to modify the initramfs to include the module for some reason. I must admit I'm not into the details, though. Maybe someone else knows better
[01:11] <quiet> umm.. i just installed 'gnome-main-menu' for the opensuse style menu... but it's not coming up anywhere... if i right-click and add the 'Main Menu' applet.. it's still just the 'classic' main menu...
[01:11] <quiet> what am i missing?
[01:12] <mwe> axeeOo did you rebuild the initramfs after adding it to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules?
[01:12] <axeeOo> mwe, using "update-initramfs -u"? If so, yes
[01:12] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: OK i copied the cd, now what do i do?
[01:12] <ikonia> run the installer
[01:13] <mwe> axeeOo hmm
[01:13] <mwe> axeeOo I don't know then
[01:13] <mwe> axeeOo it sounds out of the ordinary
[01:13] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: how? sudo untiitled folder desktop run ? i don't know
[01:13] <axeeOo> heh, bloody ubuntu. I just dropped fc6 because I hear ubuntu is supposed to be friendly; so far i've had an easier time installing gentoo...
[01:14] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: got to be honest, I'm tired and your trying my patience. Read the docs that came with it, or get support from the unreal support group
[01:14] <manny> man they released a bunch of updates to 7.04 now my sound works
[01:14] <ShreQue> Having some installation problems, can anyone help?
[01:14] <manny> but still no sound with my headphone jack :(
[01:15] <lazaruslupine> what install problems?
[01:15] <rhys> how do i make the installer look for the cd on a harddrive partition?
[01:15] <mwe> axeeOo I guess you're unlucky. It's been pretty painless for me for almost two years now
[01:15] <ShreQue> After I click install, it goes right to where it is loading the desktop, then crashes with this error message...
[01:15] <lazaruslupine> yeah pretty painless for me and i've used a lot of distros
[01:16] <axeeOo> damn mwe, I had ubuntu installed a very long time ago with some trouble, once it's installed its fine, unlike gentoo ;)
[01:16] <ShreQue> Failed to start xserver, VBE init failed, Screen found but none have a usuable config
[01:16] <lazaruslupine> hmm harddrive partition let me think
[01:16] <lazaruslupine> gentoo is ok if you have the time
[01:16] <spiraldark> Hey guys I am having a problem.... I kinda... well... currupted the linux kernel.... (version 2.6.20-16 I think)... luckly I had version 2.6.20-15 installed so I just used that.. (with grub) .... but now I need to fix the new kernel.... How do I do that?
[01:16] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: ok i will find someone who knows how to do this, and who wants to help all the way and not leave me a setting duck. But i guess thanks for a half assed job
[01:16] <rhys> lazaruslupine, no its not
[01:16] <bulltitan> ok thanks guys stellarium is compiling now, the kernel headers removed were those not in use
[01:16] <axeeOo> yep, my old system used to melt from compiling everything :-) spiraldark
[01:16] <ShreQue> Cannot read V_Bios is the last part
[01:16] <mwe> axeeOo a radical approach would be building your own kernel with that driver built in
[01:17] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: drop the attitude
[01:17] <bulltitan> ho man i complains about a freetype library not there
[01:17] <clearzen> scoobydoo28139:  You get what you pay for sucker
[01:17] <bulltitan> it complains i mean
[01:17] <scoobydoo28139> lol clearzen
[01:17] <Tarkus> hey, anyone have any idea why when i look at my video files (thumbnails).. it only shows an image in a few of the thumbnails, the rest are an icon that looks like a tape/reel?   http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1433/screenshotseason3filebrdx5.png
[01:17] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: 1.) this is ubuntu support 2.) unreal is nothing to do with ubuntu 3.) you've not read any of the docs 4.) I've explained what to do  - so drop the attitude
[01:17] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, wols_ Unless myself and Jamie are soing something really stupid, looks like this is a bug worth reporting on Launchpad. Thank you for your help.
[01:17] <spiraldark> Sooo.. uhh.. anyone have a way for me to reinstall that new kernel...
[01:17] <Nick_Hill> s/soing/doing
[01:17] <pkundu> how do i change mouse sensitivity from command line ?
[01:18] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: strange this is cron is working fine for me on 6.06
[01:18] <ikonia> I'm looking into this
[01:18] <Skreet> join ##windows
[01:18] <ShreQue> anyone have an idea?
[01:18] <Skreet> woops :D
[01:18] <axeeOo> mwe, I've compiled kernels before, I actually ran the module-assistant looking for piix but I couldn't find it, I don't suppose you know which module would need to be loaded do you?
[01:18] <ikonia> I have an edgy and festy box building now
[01:18] <bulltitan> is this freetype library in the repos?
[01:18] <lazaruslupine> spiraldarkm, you could just do an apt-get install --reinstall kernelname
[01:18] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, OK, I'll hold the bug report for a mo.
[01:18] <iMacThere4iAm> gnomefreak: i don't know what else i can do
[01:18] <jamie> ikonia:thanks for ,wols_ thanks
[01:18] <pkundu> in festy how can I reconfigure mouse
[01:18] <mwe> axeeOo I don't know what it is to be honest
[01:19] <ShackJack> pkundu: under preferences...
[01:19] <mwe> axeeOo what is it a driver for?
[01:19] <pkundu> i command line ShackJack
[01:19] <RedJelloBreath> hi, when i do sudo apt-get -f install i get this error message -->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23519/
[01:19] <spiraldark> What's my kernel name?
[01:19] <ShreQue> Anyone ever seen this?  Failed to start xserver, VBE init failed, Screen found but none have a usuable config
[01:19] <pkundu> my mouse is behaving strange and cant go to Preference
[01:20] <Nick_Hill> Open question on forum: Is anyone else here having trouble with users crontabs? ie do crontab -e then add a cron line * * * * * /bin/date >/tmp/date  . Please let me know if you DON'T get a file called date in /tmp containing the date.
[01:20] <iMacThere4iAm> pkundu: hit alt+f1 to select the menu and use the keyboard to get there
[01:20] <bobsumone> has anyone set up ubuntu server as a router?
[01:20] <pkundu> okay Nick_Hill thx
[01:20] <ikonia> bobsumone: yes
[01:21] <ShackJack> pkundu: gnome-mouse-properties
[01:21] <bobsumone> i am having trouble finding information on the DNS + DHCP installation and configuration
[01:21] <scoobydoo28139> 1 you told me to copy 2 you left it at that(excluding the part where you said to look at doc it don't have)3 i don't care about some ones patience that leaves me half way. If you are in the habit of leaving someone half helped then leave:) 4 It does have to do with ubuntu if it is linux, no tude, i couls care less! infact don't talk to me any more unless you want to (FINISH) the job:)
[01:21] <bobsumone> oh hey ikonia, I didn't see you there :P
[01:21] <ShackJack> iMacThere4iAm: damn, I always forget that...
[01:21] <ShreQue> Anyone versed on install issues?
[01:21] <jrib> Nick_Hill: works fine here
[01:21] <iMacThere4iAm> ShackJack: I've spent all day with a broken mouse, you pick these things up...
[01:22] <qoop> hellooooooo
[01:22] <Nick_Hill> jrib, Thanks.
[01:22] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: ubuntu does not answer all linux questions - so unreal has nothing to do with ubuntu so go and read the docs on how to install it
[01:22] <mwe> Nick_Hill is it configured to allow user crontabs? or maybe you're running anacron
[01:22] <quiet> anyone? how do i use the  "gnome-main-menu" once it's installed?
[01:22] <ShackJack> qoop: hellooooo
[01:22] <bulltitan> another error please help heres the output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23524/
[01:22] <captaintrips> u guys have any experience with gkismet?
[01:22] <captaintrips> getting Can't locate Gnome.pm in @INC  when i try to start it
[01:22] <mwe> quiet click it?
[01:22] <bobsumone> ikonia: how do I set up DHCP + DNS?
[01:22] <ice_9> no I use the cli version
[01:23] <ShackJack> quiet: add it to your panel - right click etc..
[01:23] <ice_9> its much better
[01:23] <ShreQue> Anyone good on install issues?
[01:23] <ice_9> and faster
[01:23] <quiet> ShackJack: it's not there..
[01:23] <ikonia> bobsumone: use the dhcp server package, and don't try to setup dns unless you have to, use your isp
[01:23] <quiet> if you add the 'Main Menu' it's just the classic main menu
[01:23] <scoobydoo28139> again - no docs :) i am asking for help on how to run an .sh setup file.
[01:23] <Nick_Hill> mwe,  ooks like I am using vixie according to the manual.
[01:23] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: and I told you
[01:23] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: you may get better more generic help in ##linux on freenode
[01:23] <ShackJack> quiet: there's Main menu and menu bar...
[01:24] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: yeah 6.0.6 is using vixie too
[01:24] <Nick_Hill> mwe, I have tried creating cron.allow and cron.deny. Then adding my username to cron.allow.
[01:24] <ShreQue> Has anyone ever had problems installing ubuntu?
[01:24] <scoobydoo28139> ok ikonia
[01:24] <scoobydoo28139> i give
[01:24] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know why this folder doesnt show thumbnail preview images for my video files (afaik all my other folders show thumbnail previews for everything).. it only shows an image in a few of the thumbnails, the rest are an icon that looks like a tape/reel?   http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1433/screenshotseason3filebrdx5.png
[01:24] <ikonia> ShreQue: tell us your problem and we may get somewhere
[01:24] <mwe> Nick_Hill I think there is a directive that decides if user crontabs are allowed or ignored
[01:24] <ShreQue> Failed to start xserver, VBE init failed, Screen found but none have a usuable config
[01:24] <Skreet> ShreQue,  I'm sure people have had problems installing Ubuntu before, yes.
[01:24] <Nick_Hill> mwe, Do you know how it is set on feisty by default, and where it is set?
[01:25] <ikonia> mwe: yeah, but according to the docs ubuntu systems are allowing all users to use cron by default
[01:25] <ikonia> ShreQue: xorg needs reconfiguring
[01:25] <ShreQue> how to do that?
[01:25] <ikonia> ShreQue: sudo dpkg-reconifgure xserver-xorg
[01:25] <mwe> Nick_Hill not really. I just think I remember seeing it somewhere
[01:25] <Nick_Hill> Cron;s debugging seems rather limited.
[01:25] <bulltitan> at least can someone tell me how to install the freetype library required for it to compile
[01:26] <ikonia> bulltitan: what are you trying to compile
[01:26] <ShreQue> thats all I have to do?
[01:26] <ikonia> ShreQue: then answer the quetions on screen
[01:26] <mr_daniel> is it possible to skip a window under ubuntu
[01:26] <mr_daniel> maybe for 90 degres?
[01:26] <ShreQue> Ikonia:  thank you!!
[01:26] <bulltitan> ikonia stellarium from their website
[01:26] <bobsumone> ikonia: I also added an ethernet card, do I have to add that manually?
[01:26] <ikonia> bulltitan: stellarium is in the ubuntu repo
[01:26] <bulltitan> error output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23524/
[01:27] <ikonia> bobsumone: just configure it in the network config gui
[01:27] <Pelo> mr_daniel,  you mean rotate it ?  maybe if you are using something like beryl , try and ask in #beryl
[01:27] <defcon> I need some help with chown, for some reason when I chown -R defcon:defcon .* while im in /home/defcon it changes all of owner ship in /home/* to defcon
[01:27] <bobsumone> ikonia: what network config gui?
[01:27] <bulltitan> i know i tryed that one but has some problems with the fonts not rendered as they should
[01:27] <ikonia> bobsumone: system-->admin--->network
[01:28] <bobsumone> ikonia: I am on server, I don't have GUI
[01:28] <ikonia> bulltitan: better to log a bug
[01:28] <ikonia> bobsumone: ok, in that case you have to set it up by hand
[01:28] <Pelo> bobsumone, look in here for instructions  http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/unleashed/
[01:28] <bobsumone> in etc/network/interface
[01:28] <bobsumone> ?
[01:28] <thekidrio> /etc/network/inferfaces
[01:28] <bulltitan> ok ill do that but what about the freetype stuff?
[01:28] <mwe> Nick_Hill so I guess you already checked syslog?
[01:28] <bulltitan> how can i get it
[01:28] <thekidrio> then /etc/init.d/networking restart
[01:29] <anathematic> i've got an NRG file i burnt with nero ages ago (it's an image) what can i open it in?
[01:29] <bobsumone> thekidrio: ty
[01:29] <GomoX> I upgraded kernels the other day after hesitating for a while and the upgrade was b0rked. Why do I feel that if I upgrade libfreetype6 I will get wrecked fonts all over?
[01:29] <Pelo> anathematic, there is a nero for linux,  check on the nero site
[01:29] <Nick_Hill> mwe, Yes. cron writes to syslog. Unfortunately, the debugging output is limited.
[01:29] <anathematic> Pelo:  is it free? lol
[01:30] <JacktheHomeless> Anyone familiar with running wow under wine and could help me out?
[01:30] <Pelo> anathematic, yes, but not complete, it's more like the OEM stuff you get with the cd/dvd player
[01:30] <Nick_Hill> Jacek_Kendysz, wow?
[01:30] <Pelo> JacktheHomeless, try asking in #winehq
[01:30] <JacktheHomeless> oh.. how do i join there?
[01:30] <shiryu> help, somebody knows why i cant open froswire? i reinstalled it and nothing
[01:30] <Pelo> Nick_Hill, world of warcraft
[01:30] <mwe> Nick_Hill but you would have noticed any errors at least
[01:30] <Pelo> JacktheHomeless,   /join #winehq
[01:30] <_cjs_> ive got a question about third party drivers after kernel upgrades if anyone has a second
[01:30] <shiryu> and i download all javas that are in synaptic
[01:30] <JacktheHomeless> Pelo:  you rock bro, thanks alot
[01:30] <_cjs_> am i required to recompile the module or should it work properly automatically? i can no longer modprobe acerhk after my last upgrade
[01:31] <ikonia> _cjs_: go for it
[01:31] <ikonia> _cjs_: the modules are closed source normally
[01:31] <_cjs_> oh of course
[01:31] <mwe> Nick_Hill make sure you leave a blank line at the end of the file IIRC
[01:32] <_cjs_> anyone here use acerhk?
[01:32] <bobsumone> anathematic: google it
[01:32] <anathematic> bobsumone:  already have
[01:32] <anathematic> =)
[01:32] <bobsumone> anathematic: ah ok, there is a website out there that lists them all
[01:32] <mwe> Nick_Hill have you done that?
[01:32] <bobsumone> anathematic: bookmark is recomended
[01:32] <bobsumone> :P
[01:32] <anathematic> bobsumone:  haha yeah done already =)
[01:32] <anathematic> (L)
[01:32] <Pelo> anathematic, bobsumone gnomefiles.org
[01:33] <shiryu> somebody can help me?
[01:33] <bobsumone> Pelo: ive seen better
[01:33] <Pelo> bobsumone, it,s not a competition
[01:33] <Nick_Hill> mwe, I am just checking if that is the problem. Could be.
[01:33] <bobsumone> Pelo: I like the ones that list win+nix
[01:33] <Pelo> shiryu, what with ?
[01:33] <Pelo> bobsumone, you mean this one  http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html
[01:33] <bobsumone> Pelo: i know :) just saying so ppl reading this know
[01:34] <shiryu> i installed several times froswire and it didnt open pelo
[01:34] <shiryu> and i installed all javas that are in synaptic
[01:34] <Pelo> shiryu,  you need to install sun-java6
[01:34] <supernova_> in kubutu i get an error messagen when typing kcontrol why? does anyone else get this?
[01:34] <shiryu> yes pelo
[01:34] <supernova_> can someone please check
[01:35] <_cjs_> so if i upgrade my kernel and i get an "unable to handle paging request" message in dmesg after trying to modprobe acerhk, is there any way around that?
[01:35] <mwe> supernova_ what error?
[01:35] <Pelo> shiryu, there have been issues, which I can'T realy help with since I never had any problems,  try remving all of frostwire,  all of the javas , rebooting, reinstalltin the java stuff first , then reinstall frostwire
[01:35] <supernova_> loads of lines but it starts with:
[01:35] <supernova_> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[01:36] <mwe> supernova_ is it works for me
[01:36] <zero> how can i install mysqlFront??
[01:36] <supernova_> mwe: kubuntu?
[01:36] <supernova_> how do i find out what device 169 is?
[01:36] <mwe> supernova_ Initially I installed kubuntu-desktop but I removed some stuff and added some other stuff
[01:36] <shiryu> pelo but i dont know how to remove frostwire when i put aplications, add and remove it doesnt appear
[01:37] <lockd> shiryu: trying to install frostwire, now that I know what it is and why it's not in apt-
[01:37] <chump> hello everyone
[01:37] <supernova_> mwe: does kubuntu allways remove temp files when shuting down?
[01:37] <Pelo> shiryu, check in menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[01:37] <captaintrips> kismet hates me
[01:37] <captaintrips> lol
[01:37] <mwe> supernova_ temp files? what temp files?
[01:37] <supernova_> ./tmp
[01:37] <lockd> shiryu: you have to dpkg -r frostwire*deb
[01:38] <peepsalot> hey folks, was wondering is anyone know why my mplayer plugin seems to get stuck in a loop of reloading on some files
[01:38] <zero> there is a version of mysqlfront for linux?
[01:38] <shiryu> pelo after that and find them?
[01:38] <peepsalot> for example http://www.stv.tv/content/news/north_scotland/display.html?id=opencms:/news/north_scotland/Man_believes_he_has_filmed_nessie
[01:38] <rogue780|mythser> anyone here us proftpd?
[01:38] <Pelo> shiryu,  use the search feature
[01:38] <askand> How do I encode movies for a pocket pc?
[01:38] <tritium> zero: are you familiar with apt-cache search <term>, or searching in synaptic?
[01:38] <mwe> supernova_ I think that's cleaned no matter what desktop you run
[01:38] <zero> tritium: not really
[01:38] <shiryu> ok pelo but after i find it what i do
[01:38] <hesk> ke onda
[01:38] <Pelo> shiryu, and use uninstl completly
[01:38] <mwe> supernova_ why? stuff in /tmp should be temporary
[01:38] <peepsalot> can anyone view this video in their browser? http://www.stv.tv/content/news/north_scotland/display.html?id=opencms:/news/north_scotland/Man_believes_he_has_filmed_nessie
[01:39] <Pelo> shiryu, rigght click the pacakges and select from the options provided
[01:39] <supernova_> mwe: okey.. im new to linux.... win you have to clean everything your self to ceep the computer "fast"
[01:39] <tritium> zero: here's an example: apt-cache search mysql
[01:39] <supernova_> hum... just wondering how to figure out what imput device 169 is... any ideas?
[01:39] <Nick_Hill> mwe, It looks like the new line at the end of the file is the issue
[01:39] <zero> tritium: ohh, ok i'll try man apt-cache
[01:39] <mwe> supernova_ that's not your problem and why kcontrol is not loading
[01:39] <peepsalot> wtf now it works... hmm
[01:39] <tritium> zero: great!  Also, synaptic has a search function
[01:39] <mwe> supernova_ did you install kubuntu or what?
[01:40] <zero> tritium: then i'll look for the package i need
[01:40] <Pelo> peepsalot, you need to copy the url and use the stand alone mplayer to view it,   and the video isnT' worth it,  just a line of wave on a lake
[01:40] <supernova_> yes fresh install
[01:40] <pkundu> where can i find help related to neworking ?
[01:40] <rogue780|mythser> anyone here us proftpd?
[01:40] <mwe> supernova_ report a bug
[01:40] <Gabrie1> guys, i'm trying to connect using winmodem but gnome cant recognize my fax/modem driver... ubuntu says that its intel 537, but i cant connect... what sould i do?
[01:40] <Nick_Hill> mwe, I use Jed as my default editor. Jed doesn't automatically add a new line before EOF. nano, the Ubuntu defautl editor always leaves \n before <eof>
[01:40] <zero> tritium: i'll give it a shot too, thank you
[01:40] <pkundu> i mean which room ?
[01:40] <supernova_> kkcontrol comes up but im wondering why the error message is in the console
[01:40] <mwe> supernova_ does the system thing replacement work?
[01:40] <peepsalot> Pelo, yeah, i figured it's probably a dumb vid, but i have had this problem before
[01:40] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: so its the editor leaving \n when you modify the crontab file ?
[01:40] <supernova_> ?
[01:40] <rawkfist> anybody know of a sports ticker for gnome?
[01:40] <shiryu> other thing, an antivirus that you recomend?
[01:41] <Pelo> peepsalot, streaming from tv network sites never seem to work well from me in the browser
[01:41] <mwe> supernova_ there is a new "system" menu entry that is supposed to replace kcontrol
[01:41] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, It appears so. If you install another editor such as emacs, jed or zile, they may not leave a \n before EOF
[01:41] <ikonia> well thats an interesting thing
[01:41] <KevinOman> is automatix safe to use?
[01:41] <mwe> supernova_ I still like kcontrol much more, though.
[01:41] <peepsalot> Pelo, i stopped it, then tried playing again and then it worked for some reason.  but at first, it looked like it kept starting over loading the file every 2 seconds
[01:41] <tritium> !automatix | KevinOman
[01:41] <ubotu> KevinOman: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:41] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: Ive got EDITOR set to /usr/bin/vi - yet when I do contab -e it opens nano
[01:41] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, mwe Perhaos this could be classed as a bug with crontab for not complaining that there is no \n at EOF
[01:41] <ikonia> KevinOman: no - its rubbish
[01:42] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: %100
[01:42] <KevinOman> ok thanks
[01:42] <Pelo> KevinOman,  you can do as much by getting deb pacakges or using the repos,  automatix is more trouble then it is worth
[01:42] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: confirmed - just done it with vi
[01:42] <KevinOman> okiedokie
[01:42] <mwe> Nick_Hill right. it's been like that for years, thouh.
[01:42] <shiryu> someone can recomend me a good antivirus for ubuntu?
[01:42] <Pelo> peepsalot,  that's pretty much what I get with those kinds of stream
[01:42] <JacktheHomeless> How do i tell if the oss driver and alsa driver are installed, working, and set up correctly?
[01:42] <mwe> Nick_Hill should definately be fixed, though.
[01:42] <Pelo> shiryu, clamav,  but you donT' realy need one
[01:43] <shiryu> and i cant print anything with my lexmark, i find the driver but its only for windows
[01:43] <tritium> shiryu: why use one?
[01:43] <mwe> Nick_Hill very hard to spot otherwise unless you know
[01:43] <Nick_Hill> Is there a consensus a bug report for crontab is deserved?
[01:43] <Gabrie1> guys, i'm trying to connect using winmodem but gnome cant recognize my fax/modem driver... ubuntu says that its intel 537, but i cant connect... what sould i do?
[01:43] <shiryu> mm i dont know it isnt necesary in linux tritium?
[01:43] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: yes, but potentially the bug should go under nano
[01:43] <Pelo> JacktheHomeless,  you can tell that alsa is working correctly by playing any sound file and listening ,  alsa is the audio driver,  donT' knowabout oss
[01:43] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: as crontab -e just called the variable in EDITOR
[01:43] <mwe> Nick_Hill sure
[01:44] <mwe> Nick_Hill it's a bug that should have been fixed years ago
[01:44] <rawkfist> are there any desktop sports tickers for gnome?
[01:44] <ubuntuEdgy> any on know hot to move files to a remote pc using ssh,
[01:44] <ikonia> ubuntuEdgy: scp
[01:44] <lockd> can you run frostwire under gcj, by just changing its shell where it says 'short circuit gcj'?
[01:44] <Nick_Hill> I'll file a bug against crontab. Please visit it and vote.
[01:44] <supernova_> mwe: but i dont understand what devive fails to open..
[01:44] <tritium> ubuntuEdgy: with sftp on cli, or nautilus, and many others
[01:44] <Pelo> Gabrie1, winmodem is a knonw problem if I recall correctly,  check the forum for instrucitons
[01:44] <lockd> or is that short-circuit there for a reason?
[01:44] <supernova_> i whant to know
[01:44] <mwe> Nick_Hill crontab -e should complain or add the blank line
[01:44] <JacktheHomeless> Pelo:  ok well i tested using amarok and it works whether i set it up for oss or alsa, yet i cant get any sound at all out of wine. noone in #winehq would help me either. its frustrating
[01:45] <ubuntuEdgy> sorry i don't understand , i trey filename mv sshuser@blahblha
[01:45] <mwe> Nick_Hill I've made it a habit to leave a blank line at the end of most config files ;)
[01:45] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: if you log it, I'll add comment to it
[01:46] <ubuntuEdgy> tritium i will use nauktilus
[01:46] <mwe> ubuntuEdgy use scp otherwise
[01:46] <ubuntuEdgy> nautilus*
[01:46] <shiryu> nobody know a driver for lexmark x2350?
[01:46] <ubuntuEdgy> mwe: do i have to install it fisrt ?
[01:46] <zero> hey there is any video compressor for linux?
[01:46] <mwe> ubuntuEdgy not if you installed ssh
[01:46] <j1tters> hey guys quick question
[01:47] <mwe> ubuntuEdgy scp file user@sshserver:
[01:47] <tritium> ubuntuEdgy: okay :)
[01:47] <RedJelloBreath>  i did sudo apt-get -f install i get this error message -->  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23519/    ive tried different solution technics but always end up with the same error message, what can i do?
[01:47] <mwe> ubuntuEdgy or use sftp
[01:47] <j1tters> i have 2 gig of mem in stalled. its showing only 300 meg used. but its showing 33 meg of swap used. any reason why? running fiesty.
[01:47] <j1tters> thanks in advance
[01:47] <mwe> ubuntuEdgy it's much more managable for a lot of files
[01:48] <KevinOman> if there's ubuntu christain edition, and ubuntu satanic edition, are we using the athiest edition?
[01:48] <mwe> j1tters it likes to use just a little swap sometimes
[01:48] <VoX> KevinOman: haha
[01:48] <j1tters> ahh ok mwe. thanks much. :)
[01:48] <tritium> KevinOman: please save those kind of comments/questions for #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:48] <Meshezabeel> I am trying to create a language teaching program but can't get all the unicode characters I need. Canadian Aboriginal is what I need, it is listed under the character map. Only some of the characters show up, but not all of them. The ones that don't show up show unicode numbers in place of a character. Do I need to install more fonts, or should they be included already if the unicode numbers are showing up in character map.
[01:48] <mwe> j1tters I'm not sure why but I've seen that as well
[01:48] <KevinOman> tlol
[01:48] <j1tters> just checking.
[01:48] <KevinOman> tsry
[01:48] <TitanP4> hello all new user to Ubuntu
[01:49] <j1tters> i would have figured it would not have to touch swap but ok.
[01:49] <j1tters> anyone know if there is a twinview room?
[01:49] <zero> there is any video compressor for linux?
[01:49] <TitanP4> has anyone installed the perfect desktop for Ubuntu
[01:49] <mwe> j1tters yeah. sometimes the inner workings of memory mangement is not for human beings (or even machines for that matter)
[01:50] <j1tters> or where would i go with a twinview question?
[01:50] <peteremcc> hi, im having a problem with an ntfs external hard drive
[01:50] <lockd> zero: ffmpeg can convert nearly anything
[01:50] <scoobydoo28139> anyone know how to exacute .sh file through terminal?
[01:50] <Meshezabeel> TitanP4: no such thing
[01:50] <peteremcc> i've managed to get it to manually mount
[01:50] <j1tters> lol yeh mwe i got that. :) thanks though
[01:50] <lockd> TitanP4: what mesh said
[01:50] <gnilor> j1tters, which graphics cards?
[01:50] <peteremcc> but i dont want to have to do that every restart
[01:50] <TitanP4> im looking at a web site on it now
[01:50] <j1tters> nvidia g6200 256,
[01:50] <zero> lockd: ohh, isnt that a library?
[01:50] <j1tters> er 256m
[01:50] <aliasrush> what firewall does everyone recommend?
[01:50] <TitanP4> http://www.howtoforge.com/the_perfect_desktop_ubuntustudio7.04
[01:50] <lockd> zero: what a library?
[01:51] <tritium> scoobydoo28139: file extensions are irrelevant.  To execute a shell script, first, it needs to be made executable
[01:51] <KevinOman> TitanP4: im getting ready to install it right now
[01:51] <scoobydoo28139> ok
[01:51] <lockd> scoobydoo28139: just type 'sh <filename>'
[01:51] <j1tters> its not a problem question grilor its more of a performance question.
[01:51] <scoobydoo28139> ok
[01:51] <j1tters> nothing important
[01:51] <mwe> aliasrush you don't need one unless you run a service you want to restrict
[01:51] <zero> lockd: nevermind ^_^)!
[01:51] <mwe> aliasrush nothing is listening by default
[01:51] <TitanP4> cool ...Im uncertaIN AS OF IT YET ...WILL IT OVER WRITE EVERYTHING i HAVE GOING ON NOW
[01:51] <BlakHat_> !kernel
[01:51] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:51] <Meshezabeel> TitanP4: perfect would mean it was made by perfect beings and used by perfect beings, since all the desktops I know of are made and used by imperfect humans, you will never find a perfect desktop
[01:51] <TitanP4> sorry about caps
[01:51] <gnilor> j1tters, performance is probably due to the driver .. or X.org but i'm guessing binary nvidia driver? ...
[01:52] <mwe> !caps | TitanP4
[01:52] <ubotu> TitanP4: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:52] <scoobydoo28139> sweet thanks lockd:
[01:52] <TitanP4> hit the cap button
[01:52] <scoobydoo28139> thats all i needed to know
[01:52] <j1tters> grilor yep binary. but i think its a processor issue.
[01:52] <zero> lockd: ffmpeg
[01:52] <KevinOman> TitanP4:  yess unless you install it on another partition
[01:52] <aliasrush> mwe: thank you
[01:52] <ubuntuEdgy> mwe:  cant find the file lol , done exacly as you said even tryed *user@sshserver/home/user/desktop
[01:52] <j1tters> grilor im just trying to narrow it down.
[01:52] <zero> lockd: ok i'll give it a shot
[01:52] <lockd> zero: oh, right.. might be a lib too
[01:52] <GenNMX> If I setup a RAID1 array and I want to place my operating system on it, can I do a GHOST mirror of my existing OS HDD to the array?
[01:52] <tritium> scoobydoo28139: it's not necessary to use "sh" in front if you make it executable
[01:52] <KevinOman> tjeez are there people inhere just waiting to summonds ubotu
[01:52] <j1tters> er gnilor sorry misread.
[01:52] <TitanP4> so it will be a new copy of Ubuntu
 i trying to making a language training program to for the Deaf in AmericanSignLanguage and German Sign Language
[01:52] <zero> lockd: but it's a program right?
[01:53] <KevinOman> TitanP4: yes
[01:53] <zero> lockd: like amarok or anything, lol i don't know what im saying
[01:53] <TitanP4> hmmmm currious
[01:53] <aliasrush> mwe: so an ubuntu or xubuntu is locked up pretty good from the start?
[01:53] <lockd> zero: no, it's command line
[01:53] <lockd> zero: sort of like "tar"
[01:53] <zero> lockd: ohh, ok, so i'll try man ffmpeg to learn about it
[01:53] <tritium> aliasrush: no ports are open by default
[01:53] <thekidrio> mmmm kernel panic fatal trap 12
[01:53] <thekidrio> mmm loverly
[01:53] <gnilor> j1tters, well i guess the #xorg people might know more about it. i don't know if there is an nvidia binary driver channel .. maybe there is more info on phoronix forums (linux hardware reviews and stuff)
[01:53] <scoobydoo28139> tritium it works i think
[01:53] <tritium> scoobydoo28139: good
[01:53] <jwhitlark> Is is possible to hold your kernel to a specific version i.e. (2.6.15) while upgrading everything else?  Is this what you use pinning for?
[01:54] <aliasrush> ok...ty
 it just lacks on people that would like to work with, no body has time around here in Berlin, Germany
[01:54] <scoobydoo28139> thank you
[01:54] <tritium> j1tters: you have read /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/README.txt.gz, right?
[01:54] <zero> lockd: thank you
[01:54] <j1tters> i think im just pushing the processor. its a redraw issue. and the nvidia guys told me to sod off its processor. im thinking its just xorg overhead
[01:54] <scoobydoo28139> thats all i needed from ikonia
[01:54] <scoobydoo28139> but was met with bad news
[01:54] <Meshezabeel> RedJelloBreath: cool, maybe we should work together, though I think sign language would probably be more video based, I am setting mine up so it can be used by all language groups, and easily modifiable, though never thought of sign language :)
[01:54] <mwe> does someone know of a gnome ftp program that supports tls connections?
[01:54] <j1tters> tritium i've read it all. everything works. performance is just a bit shy of what i'd like with a 256m card. thats all.
[01:54] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: I know exactly what you needed but refused to spoonfeed you on none ubuntu issues
[01:54] <mwe> I've been looking hard to no avail
[01:55] <aliasrush> is there a reason firefox is really slow in xubuntu but not ubuntu??
[01:55] <tritium> mwe: gftp does not?
[01:55] <lockd> aliasrush: yes
[01:55] <pmo> anyone know how i can get totem to play DVD's ? or any other player..
[01:55] <mwe> tritium no
[01:55] <aliasrush> lockd: why is that?
[01:55] <tritium> j1tters: okay
[01:55] <scoobydoo28139> aragent is not good practice for help giving
[01:55] <mwe> tritium only for authentication and I don't even think the ubuntu binary does that
[01:55] <scoobydoo28139> no one died and left you god
[01:55] <lockd> aliasrush: Ubuntu needs a lot more libraries by default, thus they already get loaded
[01:55] <RedJelloBreath> sounds great!! how can we get in contact ?
[01:55] <tritium> mwe: sorry, man
[01:55] <tritium> scoobydoo28139: hmm?
[01:55] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: I'm not being arrogant, I'm abiding by the channel guidelines, of not discussing none ubuntu products
[01:55] <scoobydoo28139> You had to learn like every one else in YOUR own way
[01:56] <j1tters> thanks though tritium.   i think its just the nature of the beast on this system. its an athalon xp 1800. and well thats just old.
[01:56] <mwe> tritium it supports sftp
[01:56] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: your not learning your asking for every command you need to type for a product that is nothing to do with ubuntu
[01:56] <aliasrush> well its xubuntu that is slow for internet and I have ubuntu installed on the same machine
[01:56] <lockd> aliasrush: there is a such thing called 'prelink' and 'preload' but I am not sure how *buntu's support of it is
[01:56] <scoobydoo28139> . sh files are not just outside of ubuntu
[01:56] <gilang> does anybody know how to wake up from suspend or hibernate?
[01:56] <Meshezabeel> RedJelloBreath: see your private chat window, I just sent you a message
[01:56] <scoobydoo28139> .sh is everywhere linux installs are
[01:56] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: the software you want to run and install is nothing to do with ubuntu. This is not a "lean linux" channel it is specific for ubuntu quesitons and configuration
[01:56] <gnilor> ikonia, scoobydoo28139 now you are both violating guidlines by continuing, call it a draw and get over it
[01:56] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: exactly - nothing to do with ubuntu
[01:56] <peteremcc> hi, im having a problem with an ntfs external hard drive, can anyone help?
[01:57] <ikonia> gnilor: correct
[01:57] <ikonia> this ends
[01:57] <gnilor> peteremcc, what's the problem?
[01:57] <RedJelloBreath> oh
[01:57] <j1tters> anyone here running dual displays using twinview?
[01:57] <RedJelloBreath> you cannot see me
[01:57] <ikonia> RedJelloBreath: we can
[01:57] <peteremcc> its not mounting
[01:57] <peteremcc> i've managed to get it to manually mount
[01:57] <peteremcc> but i dont want to have to do that every restart
[01:57] <RedJelloBreath> :P
[01:57] <Meshezabeel> RedJelloBreath: can you type to me in the private message I sent you?
[01:57] <scoobydoo28139> eather way i still need to exacute .sh file for tv card stuff in UBUNTU:0
[01:57] <captaintrips> ok, i keep running into this error and cant seem to figure out wtf it means, when i try to use airsnort i get wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported.. wtf?
[01:57] <j1tters> no one. ok.
[01:58] <RedJelloBreath> yes but i get a message from freenode
[01:58] <gnilor> peteremcc, i'm not actually to knowledgably with "the ubuntu way" but i would guess that you just need to include it in /etc/fstab
[01:58] <RedJelloBreath> saying i must register to send Private Messages
[01:58] <wols_> !ntfs
[01:58] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:58] <lockd> peteremcc: i had the same problem
[01:58] <wols_> RedJelloBreath: yes you must on freenode
[01:58] <LjL> !register > RedJelloBreath    (RedJelloBreath, see the private message from Ubotu)
[01:58] <j1tters> anyone know if there is a twinview room?
[01:58] <mwe> it's very hard to find a good linux gui ftp client that supports ftp over tls :|
[01:59] <ikonia> j1tters: #nvidia
[01:59] <lockd> peteremcc: I think I got around it by giving it a UDEV rule instead of letting HAL take care of that
[01:59] <Meshezabeel> RedJelloBreath: ah, guess you have to be registered with freenode
[01:59] <RedJelloBreath> be right back
[01:59] <mwe> or find any for that matter
[01:59] <peteremcc> its not a windows partition - just ntfs
[01:59] <ikonia> mwe: I maybe wrong but gftp I thought had it
[01:59] <j1tters> already there ikonia but thank you.
[01:59] <peteremcc> it was loading perfectly fine
[01:59] <peteremcc> but i didn't have write access
[01:59] <wols_> RedJelloBreath: you don't need to log off
[01:59] <KevinOman> j #beryl
[01:59] <peteremcc> so i used ntfs-3g
[01:59] <killaz> hi how can I verify if I have enabled OpenGL for my nvidia?
[01:59] <tritium> scoobydoo28139: don't worry, it's okay to ask about how to execute shell scripts on ubuntu
[01:59] <lockd> peteremcc: same thing with a vfat partition
[01:59] <wols_> peteremcc: ubto told you what to do
[01:59] <bobsumone> im having trouble adding an ethernet card to my ubuntu server
[01:59] <peteremcc> it hasn't worked since then
[01:59] <scoobydoo28139> ok
[01:59] <lockd> wols_: what is that?
[01:59] <mwe> ikonia you don't ;) or at least mine does not.
[01:59] <Meshezabeel> RedJelloBreath: if you don't want to register, try /join #redjello
[02:00] <wols_> lockd: what is what?
[02:00] <wols_> killaz: glxinfo
[02:00] <ikonia> mwe: not got it here to check, as I said could be (and sound like) I'm wrong
[02:00] <lockd> wols_: "ubto told you what to do"
[02:00] <Nick_Hill> ikonia, mwe Cron Bug reported as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cron/+bug/118168
[02:00] <wols_> lockd: *ubotu
[02:00] <bobsumone> i edited the etc/networking/interfaces and added the info, but i think i missed a setting somewhere
[02:00] <mwe> ikonia it supports sftp and authentication only with tls. but the ubuntu binary doesn't seem to even do that
[02:00] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: I'll add to it
[02:00] <wols_> bobsumone: how far are you? what is the error message?
[02:00] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: thank you
[02:00] <scoobydoo28139> tritium : i do need to know where to get a good list for reposatory's
[02:00] <bobsumone> says No such device
[02:00] <lockd> wols_: i don't believe that was the problem peteremcc was having
[02:01] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: the repos are already in your source.list file
[02:01] <tritium> !repos | scoobydoo28139
[02:01] <ubotu> scoobydoo28139: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[02:01] <lockd> wols_: the automounting was the problem, it was the same problem as I had
[02:01] <wols_> bobsumone: does it show with /sbin/ifconfig -a? if not: load its driver
[02:01] <russe11> I have a computer with RAID 0 set up, I'm trying to install ubuntu on it. lspci reports the RAID controller is "00:1f.2 RAID bus controller: Intel Corporation 82801HR/HO/HH (ICH8R/DO/DH) SATA RAID Controller (rev 02)"
[02:01] <bobsumone> how would I load its drivers?
[02:01] <wols_> peteremcc: what is your fstab entry?
[02:01] <bobsumone> im still a little new to linux command line
[02:01] <scoobydoo28139> ikonia: don't type talk or atemp to comunicate with me any more please thanks
[02:01] <wols_> russe11: use software raid
[02:01] <russe11> When I run the installer, it offers to let me install on either of my 2 hard drives, but not to the RAID array
[02:01] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: put me on ignore then
[02:01] <tritium> ikonia: please, stop
[02:02] <ikonia> tritium: stop what ?
[02:02] <wols_> bobsumone: first: what did ifconfig say?
[02:02] <peteremcc> should i pm it to you wols?
[02:02] <lockd> wols_: AFAICT the best way to set up external disks is udev and hal
[02:02] <wols_> peteremcc: no you sh9ould not
[02:02] <bobsumone> wols_:its not loading anything for eth1
[02:02] <bobsumone> eth0 is there
[02:02] <mwe> ikonia it's somewhat annoying mucking about in lftp tranfering files from different directories
[02:02] <bobsumone> and lo of course
[02:02] <wols_> bobsumone: is ifconfig showing eth1?
[02:02] <peteremcc> from what i can tell, all it has is my internal hard drive and my cd drive
[02:02] <bobsumone> no
[02:02] <killaz> so I have glx missing on display 0.0
[02:03] <ikonia> mwe: I can't think of an alternative though, I'm sure there is one
[02:03] <wols_> bobsumone: so what is the chip on that new eterhent card?
[02:03] <killaz> how can I enabled this?
[02:03] <scoobydoo28139> tritium: thanks my max pc mag also said there are more available
[02:03] <wols_> !nvidia | killaz
[02:03] <byleth> ugh i keep getting this pm DCC SEND "jEWS_did_wTC_loL_whAT" 0 0 0 0
[02:03] <ubotu> killaz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:03] <byleth> wtf
[02:03] <bobsumone> wols_: its a linksys chipset on the ethernet card
[02:03] <wols_> byleth: by whom?
[02:03] <russe11> wols_, I can tell your swamped helping people, and I appreciate it. Problem is I have Windows installed on the RAID array already, so I can't just scrap the Intel RAID controller. Do you know of any way I can make Linux see it?
[02:03] <wols_> bobsumone: there are no linksys chips. cause they don't make chips
[02:03] <russe11> I have googled without much luck
[02:03] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: they will be repos that are not supported by ubuntu or unofficial user package repos
[02:04] <scoobydoo28139> AWSOME thanks
[02:04] <mwe> ikonia I'm not so sure there is a free alternative. *nix seems to prefer sftp since that's almost always availble in those environments
[02:04] <wols_> russe11: no. tho I think there is a driver. ask intel
[02:04] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: for example automatrix adds repos
[02:04] <bobsumone> wols_: I am positive, 100% the chip said linksys n it
[02:04] <bobsumone> n = on
[02:04] <tritium> scoobydoo28139: you should avoid unofficial repos whenever possible
[02:04] <wols_> russe11: but you have a fakeraid. so that windows driver raid is useless anyways. windows can use a raid without that
[02:04] <wols_> bobsumone: I am 100% positive that linksys makes no chips. they only make cards.
[02:04] <scoobydoo28139> tritium: do they cary different info?
[02:05] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: they carry different packages
[02:05] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: those are the ones which could potentially break ubuntu hence why they are not supported
[02:05] <wols_> bobsumone: lspci
[02:05] <bobsumone> wols_: this chip had a linksys logo on it
[02:05] <bobsumone> lspci?
[02:05] <mwe> LjL got angry?
[02:05] <wols_> bobsumone: I don't care if it has a vista logo. linksys makes no chips. period
[02:05] <ikonia> Nick_Hill: I've updated the bug with my input
[02:05] <peteremcc> the link that was given doesn't work... it doesn't find the external drives
[02:05] <wols_> bobsumone: run it
[02:05] <russe11> wols_, really the only reason I'm using RAID is because I'd rather assign specific sized partition for windows, one for linux, one for /home, etc all out of the same chunk. If I use software RAID in Windows and Ubuntu, will that work?
[02:05] <bobsumone> i did
[02:06] <bobsumone> wols_: its only showing 1 ethernet controller
[02:06] <wols_> russe11: yes
[02:06] <tritium> scoobydoo28139: stick to the official repos as much as possible
[02:06] <wols_> bobsumone: then you did something wrong installing it
[02:06] <ikonia> russe11: thats not a good solution in my opinion. I don't trust using fake raid in linux at all
[02:06] <scoobydoo28139> tritium: no problem this is taking some getting used to
[02:06] <bobsumone> wols_: can you point me to a how-to so I can double check my steps?
[02:06] <scoobydoo28139> Is a lot diferent than windows
[02:07] <wols_> bobsumone: installing a card inside a PC is outside the scope of ubuntu. so: no
[02:07] <wols_> bobsumone: put it another way: you don 't have a ubuntu problem
[02:07] <bobsumone> lol
[02:07] <wols_> come back when lspci shows both ethernet cards
[02:07] <scoobydoo28139> tritium: I passed out 332 cd's in 2 weeks :)
[02:07] <ub12> I am getting Segmentation fault (core dumped) when running apt-get. What do I have to do to correct this?
[02:07] <wols_> ub12: paste the full output of apt-get in a pastebin
[02:07] <bobsumone> wols_: are you saying there is a problem between the screwdriver and the card?
[02:08] <bobsumone> a 1d10t kinda thing?
[02:08] <wols_> bobsumone: no. a problem between the pci slot and your card
[02:08] <wols_> I don't know since I didn't isntall it
[02:08] <bobsumone> ill double check everything
[02:08] <bobsumone> i might have an extra card floating around I can try in place of it
[02:09] <bobsumone> actually
[02:09] <bobsumone> you know what
[02:09] <aliasrush> is there anyway to make firefox any faster on xubuntu?
[02:09] <scoobydoo28139> any word on ubuntu dealing with tv card's? also dealing with the mixed types like ati and nvidia?
[02:09] <wols_> scoobydoo28139: since when does ati or nvidia make tv cards?
[02:09] <bobsumone> alright, ill be back
[02:09] <uberushaximus> I'll patch the firmware soonwise
[02:09] <killaz> wols_:  I read that the Composite should be disable, is this true to run OpenGL?
[02:09] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: ubuntu will support any tv card thats supported under linux such as the winnova cards, I'm not sure what mixed nvida/ati cards are
[02:09] <scoobydoo28139> wols: have a ATI tv wonder elete
[02:09] <wols_> killaz: for what card?
[02:10] <killaz> nvidia
[02:10] <ikonia> scoobydoo28139: the all-in-wonder-card is flakey due to the ati drivers
[02:10] <wols_> scoobydoo28139: does this all in wonder have a tv tuner?
[02:10] <ub12> wols when I run "apt-get install -f" I get : "reading package lists ... done" then the next line is "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[02:10] <ikonia> wols_: the ati drivers make it flakey as heck
[02:10] <mwe> killaz My windows were lagging behind when dragging them before I enabled composite
[02:10] <scoobydoo28139> wols: yes fm tuner and tv tuner
[02:10] <shiryu> hello anyone can tell me how to change that the owner is root?
[02:10] <greg_g> Could someone please take a look at this post, I think the solution is probably easy and I did most of the work already, just need the finishing touches.  Thanks.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=460210
[02:10] <scoobydoo28139> wols: its a pci card
[02:10] <Morbis|Ruin> I just installed Ubuntu on a spare laptop. Everything is going fine, except I cannot connect to MSN or AIM with Gaim. Anyone who has time to give me a hand, it would be much appreciated =)
[02:10] <wols_> killaz: you cannot enable composite with ati. only with nvidia
[02:11] <ubuntuEdgy> shiryu:  sudo su or sudo -i
[02:11] <scoobydoo28139> wols: but my grafix card is a 7600 gt oc nvidia
[02:11] <gnilor> Morbis|Ruin, can you connect to the internet?
[02:11] <Morbis|Ruin> Yeah, but only some sites
[02:11] <noob> say noob
[02:11] <wols_> scoobydoo28139: see what ikonia said
[02:11] <Morbis|Ruin> slashdot and bbc etc fine, but it won't let me connect to google, aol
[02:11] <wols_> Morbis|Ruin: are you behind a router?
[02:11] <wols_> Morbis|Ruin: using ADSL?
[02:12] <Morbis|Ruin> while my desktop sitting next to it can connect to everything fine
[02:12] <Morbis|Ruin> Yeah, wireless router
[02:12] <Morbis|Ruin> though it doesn't make sense that the router would allow ports for a desktop and not a laptop ?
[02:12] <shiryu> ubuntuedgy where i put it?
[02:12] <russe11> For anyone who cares, the driver I was looking for appears to be called dmraid and is in the universe
[02:13] <ubuntuEdgy> shiryu: at terminal :)
[02:13] <ikonia> russe11: dmraid for me personally is not a good solution
[02:13] <wols_> russe11: yes that's normal linux software raid. but be careful so it doesn't destry your windows already installed
[02:13] <_cjs_> so regarding my acerhk problem, i was totally barking up the wrong tree
[02:13] <killaz> wols_: aha so you want this answer GeForce2 MX/MX 400
[02:13] <ikonia> russe11: just be warned, its the fake raid interface
[02:13] <lindabb> hello
[02:13] <lindabb> !
[02:13] <___> hello
[02:13] <wols_> ikonia: fakeraid is his only choice
[02:13] <_cjs_> i just needed to pass modprobe some extra options i'd forgotten about
[02:13] <ikonia> wols_: really, drat
[02:13] <_cjs_> in case anyone was following that
[02:14] <___> i dont know talk in Englesh
[02:14] <LjL> !br | ___
[02:14] <ubotu> ___: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:14] <lindabb> no entiendo nada
[02:14] <lindabb> jaja
[02:14] <lindabb> alguien habla espaol
[02:14] <lindabb>  '<
[02:14] <LjL> !es | lindabb
[02:14] <ubotu> lindabb: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:14] <russe11> ikonia, it doesn't seem I have much choice. Either I have to scrap my RAID array, and thus my entire windows install anyway, or I can use dmraid
[02:14] <ikonia> russe11: yes, wols_ was explaining that, just be careful with it
[02:14] <russe11> ikonia, if there's a better solution please let me know before I try this.
[02:14] <wols_> russe11: not really
[02:15] <wols_> russe11: just use lvm
[02:15] <ikonia> russe11: no, sound like your locked in
[02:15] <Morbis|Ruin> any further ideas gnilor, wols_?
[02:15] <wols_> Morbis|Ruin: answer my questions
[02:15] <Morbis|Ruin> I did
[02:15] <wols_> no you did not
[02:15] <lindabb> no entiendo nada
[02:15] <Gabrie1> guys... if the file modemdata.txt says that "A modem was not detected among the PCI devices" does it means that my modem isnt supported by ubuntu????
[02:15] <lindabb> nothing
[02:15] <wols_> !es | lindabb
[02:15] <ubotu> lindabb: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:15] <Morbis|Ruin> (01:12:04) (Morbis|Ruin) Yeah, wireless router
[02:15] <Morbis|Ruin> and yes, tis ADSL wols_
[02:16] <russe11> wols_: How can I use lvm and maintain my windows install that's on a RAID array?
[02:16] <Punkunity> whats the quickest way to add all the repositories for ubuntu, multiverse and universe...etc...??
[02:16] <wols_> thne clamp down MTU. that can help. no guarantees
[02:16] <LjL> !easysource > Punkunity    (Punkunity, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:16] <jrib> !repos > Punkunity (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:16] <ikonia> Punkunity: click the check boxes
[02:16] <gnilor> Morbis|Ruin, if you can connect to other sides, the problem is probably not on your computer, but on the router/ISP side, or a poorly configured firewall
[02:16] <russe11> wols_, also, is there any sort of windows compatibl
[02:16] <wols_> russe11: add the partitions to the lvm and then partitiont hat
[02:16] <russe11> ility withlvm
[02:16] <Gabrie1> guys... if the file modemdata.txt says that "A modem was not detected among the PCI devices" does it means that my modem isnt supported by ubuntu????
[02:16] <wols_> russe11: no there is not. linux cannot access a windows raid partition afaik. at all
[02:16] <Morbis|Ruin> gnilor does ubuntu have a built in firewall? i haven't put one on, if there is where would i configure that
[02:17] <LjL> !firewall > Morbis|Ruin    (Morbis|Ruin, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:17] <wols_> Morbis|Ruin: no it has not. it doesn't need one. but you can activate one
[02:17] <con-man> !wow
[02:17] <russe11> wols_, I'm confused. If I use my only 2 disks with LVM, wont' I lose my windows install?
[02:17] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[02:17] <Punkunity> ikonia, ??
[02:17] <ikonia> Punkunity: what
[02:17] <wols_> russe11: do you have free space on your disks?
[02:17] <con-man> !mknod
[02:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mknod - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:17] <gnilor> !firewall > gnilor
[02:17] <LjL> !msg the bot
[02:17] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:17] <wols_> con-man: no makedev necessary. ubuntu uses udev
[02:17] <russe11> wols_, yeah, and I created a new partition on the array under windows.
[02:18] <wols_> con-man: no mknod either
[02:18] <wols_> russe11: that you cannot use at all
[02:18] <con-man> wols_: really I used mknod earlier this week to get teamspeak working while running world of warcraft through wine
[02:18] <Morbis|Ruin> wols_ if i haven't activated the firewall then it cannot be a poorly configured firewall causing my problem?
[02:18] <wols_> russe11: linux cannot access windows arrays
[02:18] <Punkunity> well im trying to get NVU to make a web page but sudo pat-get install nvu doesnt work, maybe its case sensitive
[02:18] <LjL> Morbis|Ruin: that sounds like correct reasoning :)
[02:18] <wols_> Morbis|Ruin: no. but your router has a firewall of sorts. and that one is poorly configured. but nothing you can change. clam your MTU to 1462
[02:18] <scoobydoo28139> yes, i figured out how to install my drivers , now how to fix beryl
[02:19] <Punkunity> nope
[02:19] <LjL> !beryl > scoobydoo28139    (scoobydoo28139, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:19] <wols_> Punkunity: apt-get not pat-get
[02:19] <russe11> wols_, I have two large hard drives, I am wanting to dedicate about 100GB to Ubuntu. Yes, I have the space, but how to I slice off a piece of space on those hard drives for Ubuntu?
[02:19] <mwe> Punkunity all package names are lower case
[02:19] <paroxysm> i get a verbose shutdown with no usplash, but only on shutdown, boot up is fine. even when i tried the feisty livecd it was like that. any ideas?
[02:19] <Punkunity> well thats what i am typing in the terminal window mwe, im not that dumb...i am a little tho lol
[02:19] <Morbis|Ruin> wols_, MTU?
[02:19] <wols_> russe11: if they are all in a windows array: wrong channel for the question. ask #windows
[02:19] <Punkunity> wols_,
[02:19] <russe11> wols_, will do. Thanks.
[02:19] <wols_> maximum transfer unit. tcpip term
[02:19] <LjL> russe11: you can use gparted. however always keep in mind that resizing / messing with partitions can be dangerous and you should have backups.
[02:20] <Punkunity> see above not you mwe sorry
[02:20] <LjL> !gpartes > russe11    (russe11, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:20] <ub12> how do i copy the output of dpkg so I can paste it? It is too big to retype
[02:20] <wols_> LjL: does it work with windows raid arrays? fakeraid arrays?
[02:20] <LjL> russe11: also, for that matter, the ubuntu installer itself can make the space for you (it calls parted to do that)
[02:20] <paroxysm> ub12: from terminal?
[02:20] <LjL> wols_: no idea
[02:20] <paroxysm> ub12: shift+ctrl+c
[02:20] <ub12> paroxysm, yes from teminal
[02:20] <wols_> LjL: I very much doubt it
[02:20] <russe11> LjL, I was trying to install on a RAID array, and gparted only shows the two individual hard drives.
[02:20] <paroxysm> ub12: alternatively, right click and hit copy
[02:21] <russe11> LjL, I've used gparted with great success on the single hard drive in my laptop, however.
[02:21] <askand> How do I encode movies for a pocket pc?
[02:21] <Punkunity> i think its working with the update to the repositories
[02:21] <wols_> askand: mencoder possibly
[02:21] <lastkey0> Hi, Please help me
[02:21] <Punkunity> lastkey0, lol
[02:21] <LjL> !helpme
[02:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:21] <ub12> thanks paroxysm it worked
[02:22] <Punkunity> !what
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about what - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <ub12> now I have a problem with dpkg & apt see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23527/
[02:22] <Punkunity> !linux
[02:22] <ubotu> Linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[02:22] <LjL> !botabuse
[02:22] <lastkey0> My vfat partions are shown on desktop, i want to hide them. I unchecked the volume visible key in configuration editiors
[02:22] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (see also !Bot). Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops...
[02:22] <fogwar> anyone: Why isn't my gnome partition editor showing up in my menus? i ev en tried to locate it via alacart
[02:22] <lastkey0> but it's only hiding the same partions with Names as set in windows
[02:23] <jackal_> how do i get beryl to auto run?
[02:23] <Squirrely_Wrath> OMFG I'm gunna lose my mind!  Can anyone help me with Beryl/compiz?  Can't get either of them to do anything.  Using a radeon mobility x1400 with the official ati drivers.
[02:23] <mwe> fogwar gparted?
[02:23] <LjL> ub12: obvious consideration of the day: a segfault in dpkg is far from a good thing.
[02:23] <fogwar> mwe: ye
[02:23] <lastkey0> but now it is showing partions as 7GB FAT32 Volume (hdb10)
[02:23] <ikonia> Squirrely_Wrath: careful with the language
[02:23] <gnilor> Squirrely_Wrath, i have had the same setup, but you need to ask better questions
[02:23] <LjL> !beryl > Squirrely_Wrath    (Squirrely_Wrath, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:23] <wols_> Squirrely_Wrath: you need Xgl
[02:23] <Vanax> I need help, i put in deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main  while trying to install bery, and it says W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[02:23] <Squirrely_Wrath> sorry, didn't know it would be a prob using abbreviations
[02:23] <loco_aullador> hello anyone knows a good antivirus for linux? i know that linux doesnt have virus, but i want it to scann my windows partitions....i cant find one good for 64 bits (the clamav es very bad)
[02:23] <ikonia> Squirrely_Wrath: everyone knows what OMFG means
[02:23] <livingtm> what would cause a /dev/sda to show up on a reboot as /dev/hda?
[02:23] <Punkunity> dyaaaamn i never seen such a large response from sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:23] <alex__> hay guys, could someone offer some advice, I just installed php5 + apache2 but when I try and view pages my browser wants to download them, not view. I have checked the wiki and the steps suggest there don;t work :(
[02:23] <ub12> LjL can I just delete some of the down loaded packages and recompile?
[02:23] <LjL> !beryl > vanax    (vanax, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:23] <LjL> !gpgerr > vanax    (vanax, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:24] <mwe> fogwar did you reboot after installing it? I think sometimes it doesn't appear until next login
[02:24] <wols_> loco_aullador: there is none. only for pay software. not in ubuntu and therefore OT here
[02:24] <fogwar> isntalling ubuntu?
[02:24] <Squirrely_Wrath> I know.  but most people don't seem to react the same.  eh, no biggie.  I won't say it anymore
[02:24] <jackal_> PM me if you know how to get beryl to auto run at start up
[02:24] <alex__> (mwe, I fixed the install btw :-D)
[02:24] <fogwar> mwe: yeah ive rebooted numerous times after ubuntu installation
[02:24] <mwe> fogwar no gparted
[02:24] <LjL> ub12: delete what, recompile what? i don't know what you're doing. but i doubt it - that's a problem with dpkg. have you installed any non-Ubuntu packages, possibly core packages such as libc6?
[02:24] <ikonia> jackal_: there is a guide on the wiki that explains how to get it running at start up
[02:24] <fogwar> mwe: how do i restart gparted?
[02:24] <jackal_> i know i saw it
[02:24] <lastkey0> anybody?
[02:24] <jackal_> that didn't help
[02:24] <mwe> fogwar alt-f2 and typing gksudo gparted in the prompt should work, though.
[02:24] <wols_> LjL: his dpkg segfaults. either bad dpkg DBs or faulty memory
[02:24] <ikonia> jackal_: whats the problem
[02:25] <jackal_> ikonia: I don't know how to get it to work using that guide
[02:25] <ub12> LjL I installed Gimp updates today without problem but these problems have been around for a few days
[02:25] <ikonia> jackal_: what part is not clear
[02:25] <fogwar> mwe: wow, thanks
[02:25] <loco_aullador> wobx,  i mean antivirus in general....paying or without paying...i have to maintain a lot of windows partitions in several computers so i need one antivirus
[02:25] <LjL> wols_: are you so sure there's only those two possibilities?
[02:25] <Vanax> LjL: its saying no public key, when i try to sudo aptitude update
[02:25] <Squirrely_Wrath> by the way, how do I get XGL, and will it over-ride my ati drivers?
[02:25] <ikonia> loco_aullador: antivirus on linux is different to windows so not worth asking
[02:25] <wols_> LjL: no, but the most likely ones
[02:25] <jackal_> system > pref> session
[02:25] <fogwar> mwe: wait, it asked for admin pw but nothing loaded
[02:25] <jackal_> then what?
[02:25] <LjL> Vanax: does the !gpgerr factoid instructions not fix that?
[02:26] <ikonia> jackal_: what does the guide say
[02:26] <jackal_> to add beryl
[02:26] <scoobydoo28139> Ljl: thanks for the info it was helpfull, I found that i missed a space when I typed  in terminal was all:)
[02:26] <ub12> LjL I have linc6
[02:26] <LjL> wols_: well, i know how to check for bad RAM, i don't know how to check for messed up dpkg database.
[02:26] <jackal_> but i go to add new and i don't know what to do after
[02:26] <Vanax> can you send it again ljl?
[02:26] <ikonia> jackal_: so add the session "beryl"
[02:26] <ub12> linc6^^^^
[02:26] <jackal_> it ask for a path
[02:26] <LjL> !gpgerr > Vanax    (Vanax, see the private message from Ubotu)
[02:26] <ub12> libc6 ^^^^
[02:26] <jackal_> ok and the path?
[02:26] <ikonia> jackal_: where is the path to beryl, I believe you set the path to emerald
[02:26] <LjL> ub12: we all have libc6, i was just wondering if you had the wrong version of it.
[02:26] <wols_> LjL: a 3rd possibility would be old apt-get or dpkg (the dynamic mmap bug of old)
[02:26] <fogwar> mwe: ?
[02:27] <wols_> but I doubt a recent ubuntu has that problem anymore
[02:27] <jackal_> yeah that's the hard part that no one says. Is it like in windows you have to find the .exe
[02:27] <ub12> LjL what is the right version?
[02:27] <LjL> ub12: you're using feisty, right?=
[02:27] <ikonia> jackal_: if you do a "which emerald" you'll see it
[02:27] <cartucho> hello i have installerd libcdk5-dev but when i #include <cdk.h> it gets not found, what do i do ?
[02:27] <wols_> jackal_: dpkg -L <package name> | grep bin
[02:27] <Vanax> no ljl that didnt help ><
[02:27] <ub12> LjL yes feisty
[02:27] <wols_> jackal_: and it's found
[02:27] <Morbis|Ruin> wols_, will changing my MTU to 1462 affect connectivity on other windows systems around the house, or do you suggest i change my linux MTU to 1500 (my router's, i think)
[02:27] <LjL> ub12: it's 2.5-0ubuntu14
[02:27] <jackal_> i have no idea what you are saying
[02:27] <wols_> Morbis|Ruin: you need to change the mtu on the notebook. nowhere else
[02:28] <fogwar> ANYONE: is there any disadvantage of using QTParted as opposed to gparted?
[02:28] <wols_> and you need to clamp it with iptables
[02:28] <ikonia> fogwar: they are just different apps
[02:28] <Morbis|Ruin> wols_, thanks - will try that now
[02:28] <fogwar> ikonia: ok, cuz gparted wont run on my comp for some reason?
[02:28] <LjL> Vanax: what have you tried exactly? (pastebin commands and output if needed)
[02:28] <wols_> fogwar: what is the error message?
[02:28] <fogwar> wols_: no msg
[02:29] <mwe> fogwar sorry I had to go for a minute
[02:29] <peepsalot> anyone know of a good hex editor?
[02:29] <fogwar> mwe: u cool
[02:29] <wols_> fogwar: there will be a message if you run it from a terminal. either it runs or there will be a message
[02:29] <lastkey0>  My vfat partions are shown on desktop, i want to hide them. I unchecked the volume visible key in configuration editior but it's only hiding the same partions with Names as set in windows but now it is showing partions as 7GB FAT32 Volume (hdb10)
[02:29] <fogwar> mwe: it asked for admin pw confirmation and then didnt run
[02:29] <Vanax> LjL: I put the deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty main in my repository, then when i try to sudo aptitude update it gives me this trying to update that one. "W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA"
[02:30] <Morbis|Ruin> !MTU < Morbis|Ruin
[02:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtu < morbis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:30] <mwe> fogwar are you sure it's installed? can you open a terminal and type 'which gparted'
[02:30] <fogwar> mwe: ok now i just installed QTParted and it says im not roo tuser...
[02:30] <lastkey0>  My vfat partions are shown on desktop, i want to hide them. I unchecked the volume visible key in configuration editior but it's only hiding the same partions with Names as set in windows but now it is showing partions as 7GB FAT32 Volume (hdb10)
[02:30] <LjL> Vanax: yes, i got that part. what i meant is: after generating a sources.list using the link provided by Ubotu, what does following the instructions in the top section of it result in?
[02:30] <wols_> !repeat | lastkey0
[02:30] <fogwar> mwe: when i type it, it says nothing
[02:30] <ubotu> lastkey0: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[02:30] <mwe> fogwar qtparted sucks
[02:30] <p1ls> how can i close an aplication from a terminal?
[02:30] <Morbis|Ruin> !MTU > Morbis|Ruin
[02:30] <paroxysm> i get a verbose shutdown with no usplash, but only on shutdown, boot up is fine. even when i tried the feisty livecd it was like that. any ideas?
[02:30] <wols_> fogwar: dpkg -l gparted
[02:30] <shiryu> nobody knows a p2p program? i cant open frostwire and i have java
[02:30] <fogwar> mwe: i ran QTPArted and it says im not root user, no devices found
[02:31] <mwe> p1ls kill it
[02:31] <paroxysm> shiryu: nicotine i've seen works quite well
[02:31] <p1ls> i put kill name of app dosent work
[02:31] <mwe> p1ls killall
[02:31] <mwe> p1ls killall stupidprogram
[02:31] <fogwar> ?
[02:31] <chump> is ntfs-3g better then fuse ?
[02:31] <wols_> chump: ntfs-3g needs fuse to run
[02:31] <mwe> p1ls is it a dead window?
[02:31] <fogwar> mwe: how do i run QTParted as root?
[02:31] <chump> oh i see
[02:31] <chump> thans wols_
[02:32] <chump> thank**
[02:32] <p1ls> no it sayts its running
[02:32] <wols_> fogwar: can you please paste the output of dpkg -l gparted ?
[02:32] <mwe> fogwar it sucks, but gksudo qtparted
[02:32] <p1ls> its xscreensaver
[02:32] <fogwar> mwe: which should i use?
[02:32] <shiryu> who is best frostwire or nicotine paroxysm?
[02:32] <fogwar> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
[02:32] <fogwar> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[02:32] <fogwar> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
[02:32] <fogwar> ||/ Name           Version        Description
[02:32] <fogwar> +++-[02:32] <fogwar> pn  gparted        <none>         (no description available)
[02:32] <wols_> fogwar: gparted s what you shoulduse
[02:32] <paroxysm> shiryu: i've never used frostwire
[02:32] <jrib> shiryu: try both and use what you like
[02:33] <wols_> fogwar: how do you suppose you can run something that is not installed?
[02:33] <p1ls> nnvm
[02:33] <Vanax> LjL:dont i have to type in /etc/apt/sources.list in terminal then paste in the sources.list?
[02:33] <mwe> p1ls well killall xscreensaver or killall -9 xscreensaver if it's persistant or maybe even sudo killall
[02:33] <wols_> fogwar: how do you suppose you can run something that is not installed?
[02:33] <fogwar> oops
[02:33] <shiryu> jrib i cant use frostwire i dont know why i have java already
[02:33] <wols_> fogwar: install it already
[02:33] <fogwar> wols_: it WAS installed i dont know wtf happened to it
[02:33] <peteremcc> ok, can someone let me know how to completely remove the external drive from ubuntu... so i can try start again
[02:33] <jrib> shiryu: what error do you get when you type "frostwire" in a terminal?
[02:33] <jordanS> Hey guys, I have a TP-Link "TL-WN321G" wireless USB dongle on a Dell Latitude c600 notebook running Ubuntu 7.04.  The wireless works fine, but does not support WPA encryption.  WPA works in windows XP and is supported, so how can I make it work in ubuntu?
[02:33] <LjL> Vanax: no. that's usually what that site is used for -- but this time, you just have to follow the instructions in the top (commented out) section. and you need to know the ID of the Beryl repository (i guess it's on their web page).
[02:33] <wols_> fogwar: and it will ahve shown you a "comand not found" when you tried to run it. so there was an error
[02:34] <wols_> jordanS: wpa-supplicant
[02:34] <wols_> !wpa
[02:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:34] <shiryu> jrib i click it and nothing happens
[02:34] <Scheck32> hi all
[02:34] <jrib> shiryu: what error do you get when you type "frostwire" in a terminal?
[02:34] <wols_> shiryu: you cannot "click" in a terminal
[02:34] <jordanS> wols: I believe I tried that
[02:34] <wols_> jordanS: it's your only choice for wpa
[02:34] <smuggler8> hi, just wanted to ask a couple of q's about ubuntu
[02:34] <mwe> doesn't network manager support wpa, though, for the faint of heart?
[02:34] <wols_> !ask | smuggler8
[02:34] <ubotu> smuggler8: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:35] <jrib> smuggler8: welcome, just start asking away
[02:35] <Scheck32> does anyone here have a Inspiron E1505N laptop???
[02:35] <jrib> !anyone | Scheck32
[02:35] <Rodel> How do i find where my Gaim files are?
[02:35] <wols_> !
[02:35] <wols_> Rodel: dpkg -L gaim
[02:35] <dG__> I'm with a little problem.. I've just installed ubuntu and I've enabled BigDesktop, wich is working fine... however, I have two similar monitors, both with 1280x1024, but, my primary monitor in gnome is showing smaller that it should be.. but the "workspace" is in the correct resolution (http://lisbon.digital-work.com/ubuntu.png)
[02:35] <jrib> Rodel: depending on what files you mean... probably ~/.gaim/
[02:35] <dG__> any help? :)
[02:35] <ubotu> Scheck32: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:35] <smuggler8> Is it possible to trible boot OS X, XP, Ubuntu on an x86 PC but also access XP and OS X via VM in ubuntu?
[02:35] <shiryu> mm i dont know how to open a terminal jrib im new in linux
[02:36] <jrib> shiryu: applications > accessories > terminal
[02:36] <Rodel> wols_ that doesnt tell me anything
[02:36] <Rodel> jrib im looking for where the plugins are
[02:36] <Scheck32> I am having a problem with my E1505N Dell laptop....would anyone be able to help me?
[02:36] <wols_> Rodel: then gaim is not installed
[02:36] <fogwar> mwe: damnit says i dont have perl mod
[02:36] <wols_> !anyone | scheck
[02:36] <ubotu> scheck: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:36] <jrib> Rodel: why?
[02:36] <wols_> Scheck32: either you state your problem or we can't help you
[02:36] <shiryu> jrib it says bash: frostwire: order dont find
[02:37] <Rodel> jrib to install a plugin that gaim doesnt know about
[02:37] <jordanS> wols_: "wpasupplicant is already the newest version"
[02:37] <shiryu> or something like that english is not my native language
[02:37] <jrib> Rodel: what plugin?
[02:37] <jrib> ls ~/.gaim/plugins/
[02:37] <wols_> shiryu: I doubt this is the correct error message you are getting
[02:37] <jrib> shiryu: copy and paste the actual error
[02:37] <wols_> shiryu: without exact error messages no one can help you
[02:37] <Scheck32> when I do the 46 updates that Ubuntu is requesting me do it unmounts the harddrive
[02:38] <Scheck32> I have a new Inspiron E1505N Dell Ubuntu laptop
[02:38] <wols_> Scheck32: paste the output of your update
[02:38] <shiryu> bash: frostwire: orden no encontrada
[02:38] <naruto_> hi, how do i check my linux version?
[02:38] <Scheck32> i believe it said error 17
[02:38] <wols_> naruto_: kernel vresion or ubuntu vresion?
[02:38] <shiryu> it says only this
[02:38] <Scheck32> it happens on the restart
[02:38] <naruto_> kernel
[02:38] <wols_> Scheck32: that's a grub error. you need to use another kernel or reinstall grub
[02:38] <wols_> naruto_: uname -r
[02:39] <Scheck32> i do try another kernal...but all result back to the same error
[02:39] <naruto_> thanks...i got a question my windows hard drive is no longer in my desktop
[02:39] <naruto_> i can't find it
[02:39] <wols_> !grub | Scheck32
[02:39] <ubotu> Scheck32: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:39] <wols_> !ntfs | naruto_
[02:39] <Scheck32> the only thing i can do is run the restore partition
[02:39] <ubotu> naruto_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:39] <jrib> shiryu: what does this return:  dpkg -l frostwire | tail -n 1
[02:39] <kronoman> hi
[02:39] <grubiskillingme> !grub
[02:39] <peteremcc> ok, can someone let me know how to completely remove the external drive from ubuntu... so i can try start again
[02:40] <naruto_> !ntfs?
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <naruto_> type that
[02:40] <hendaus> hiya
[02:40] <wols_> peteremcc: just unplug it
[02:40] <paroxysm> shiryu: i've never used frostwire
[02:40] <hendaus> who is familiar with gnokii here , thanx
[02:40] <paroxysm> shiryu: sorry, lol
[02:40] <kronoman> I have a Motorola L6i , how I plug it into Linux ?
[02:40] <wols_> hendaus: ask your real question
[02:40] <paroxysm> i get a verbose shutdown with no usplash, but only on shutdown, boot up is fine. even when i tried the feisty livecd it was like that. any ideas?
[02:40] <Vanax> LjL: Sorry, went to the bathroom, I know the ID of the repository, and when i put it it, it wont download the update. I says tehre is no public key.
[02:40] <grubiskillingme> what is the command to gedit the grub bootloader?  Everytime I update it - it overwrites my Windows option.  Is there a way to have the default OS be windows?
[02:40] <peteremcc> um, it is currently unplugged but its still showing up in "computer"
[02:40] <noob> how do I play dvd movies?
[02:40] <jrib> !dvd > noob (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:40] <kronoman> I plugged my cell phone, and I see with dmesg --> rivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: v0.23:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters
[02:41] <kronoman> now, how I access the phone?
[02:41] <kronoman> I want to download pictures from the cam
[02:41] <Scheck32> how can i fix the grub error that I am getting
[02:41] <wols_> peteremcc: check if it's mounted. "mount"
[02:41] <caravel> the 7.04 setup lists my ide drive as sda1, I seem to remember that it used to be (logically) listed as hda1, should I care ?
[02:41] <Scheck32> because it happens on the restart for the updates
[02:41] <wols_> Scheck32: ubotu told you
[02:41] <peteremcc> the problem i am trying to fix, is that it wont mount
[02:41] <naruto_> !ntfs | naruto
[02:41] <ubotu> naruto: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:41] <grubiskillingme> what is the command to gedit the grub bootloader?  Everytime I update it - it overwrites my Windows option.  Is there a way to have the default OS be windows?
[02:41] <shiryu> jrib it only says ii  frostwire      4.13.1         A Truly Free and Open Source Peer to Peer client
[02:41] <Vanax> Why does it say Permission Denied when i type /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:41] <hendaus> wols_:  if i want to get a file from my cellphone to pc, --getfile remote_filename [local_filename]  <-- what should be replace?
[02:41] <askand> When I rightclick on "screenlets-extra-0.0.7.tar.bz2" and unpack it I get a folder named "screenlets-extra-0.0.7.tar.bz2_FILES"... why? Why cant it be named "screenlets-extra-0.0.7"? :-O
[02:41] <mwe> caravel it did that to me as well. it went fine and ended up as hda in the end, though.
[02:41] <greg_g> Could someone please take a look at this post, I think the solution is probably easy and I did most of the work already, just need the finishing touches.  Thanks.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=460210
[02:42] <tritium> Vanax: that's not a binary or executable file
[02:42] <wols_> hendaus: remote_filename and [local_filename] 
[02:42] <jrib> shiryu: ok then I mistranslated your error... type this command: LANGUAGE=en_US frostwire
[02:42] <grubiskillingme> what is the command to gedit the grub bootloader?
[02:42] <wols_> Vanax: that is a nomrla text file
[02:42] <Squirrely_Wrath> Okay, re-installed beryl.  told it to install xgl.  as far as I know it installed it.  STILL I have no effects or anything.  Any suggestions?
[02:42] <naruto_> how come i have to mount my windows hard drive..before it was automatically mounted
[02:42] <caravel> mwe: weird... or could it be an issue related to the fact I have an usb drive connected at the moment ?
[02:42] <GrueTamer> grubiskillingme: gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:42] <tritium> grubiskillingme: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:42] <Vanax> wols_:oh ok
[02:42] <wols_> grubiskillingme: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:42] <Scheck32> but ubotu never really answered my question
[02:42] <GrueTamer> right, gksudo, forgot that
[02:42] <hendaus> wols_: ok if i want to get file image095.jpg what should i type
[02:42] <mwe> grubiskillingme gksudo gedit if you want to be able to save it
[02:42] <grubiskillingme> thanks guys
[02:42] <mwe> grubiskillingme back it up first
[02:42] <wols_> hendaus: I told you
[02:43] <wols_> hendaus: read
[02:43] <neosimago> #ubuntu-amd64
[02:43] <lockd> are there any halfway decent vnc viewers in ubuntu?
[02:43] <shiryu> ok then jrib
[02:43] <sangrelinux> hi, i connected a hard drive to my computer via usb.  The drive had a few older linux partitions.  I do not have permissions to open most of the folders.  How do I gain access?
[02:43] <lockd> right now both xvnc or xtightvnc have this annoying mouse offset making it unusable
[02:43] <jrib> shiryu: what was the output?
[02:44] <Rodel> there isnt a plugins folder in my .gaim folder...
[02:44] <wols_> sangrelinux: chown or chmod them
[02:44] <shiryu> jrib this: Starting FrostWire...
[02:44] <shiryu> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[02:44] <shiryu> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[02:44] <shiryu> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[02:44] <shiryu> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[02:44] <shiryu> ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory
[02:44] <hendaus> wols_:  sorry i did it but it stopped at 60% it says connection time out, maybe i am doing wrong
[02:44] <jrib> Rodel: what plugin are you installing?
[02:44] <shiryu> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[02:44] <shiryu> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[02:44] <eXpod> what does ./ mean?
[02:44] <shiryu> ls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory
[02:44] <shiryu> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy
[02:44] <Rodel> jrib xfire
[02:44] <shiryu> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[02:44] <shiryu> shiryu@shiryu-laptop:~$
[02:44] <jrib> shiryu: don't paste here please, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:44] <wols_> !java
[02:44] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:44] <Rochvellon> hi, i get always an error when i'm calling ab -n 1000 host: error 22 wrong number of arguments. without -n 1000 it works. whats wrong?
[02:44] <Vanax> wols_: what does W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[02:44] <Vanax> mean
[02:44] <lockd> shiryu: that's Frostwire balking on java gij
[02:44] <sangrelinux> wols_: will try
[02:44] <Squirrely_Wrath> Okay, re-installed beryl.  told it to install xgl.  as far as I know it installed it.  STILL I have no effects or anything.  Any suggestions?
[02:44] <wols_> !pubkey
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pubkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <mwe> shiryu have installed sun-java?
[02:45] <lockd> shiryu: it actually does so on purpose
[02:45] <jrib> shiryu: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[02:45] <lockd> mwe: i would not trust frostwire though
[02:45] <shiryu> but i already installed it from synaptic because i cant in the java page
[02:45] <lockd> mwe: it does stop gij on purpose
[02:46] <wols_> shiryu: you installed gij but you need sun java
[02:46] <hendaus> wols_:  --getfile id <-- what shoul be my id?
[02:46] <wols_> shiryu: it will not work ever with sun java
[02:46] <Quinn_Storm> hey guys, I know I once saw a thread about this somewhere but I can't find it..basically, I'm having a weird problem where any time I suspend & resume my laptop (feisty kubuntu x86_64) it automatically resuspends within a minute or so (it resumes properly after that)
[02:46] <wols_> hendaus: I have no clue what you are actually running --getfile is no command
[02:46] <jrib> shiryu: what does this command say: dpkg -l sun-java6-jre | tail -n 1
[02:46] <lockd> does anyone know of a halfway decent vnc viewer for Ubuntu?
[02:47] <Rodel> jrib im trying to install an xfire plugin
[02:47] <lockd> or at least how to solve xvncviewer's despicable mouse offsets
[02:47] <captaintrips> u guys have any experience with kismet? i got it running but it doesnt scan
[02:47] <Vanax> does anyone know what "W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA" means?
[02:47] <shiryu> ii  sun-java6-jre  6-00-2ubuntu2  Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files
[02:47] <jrib> Rodel: you can use ~/.gaim/plugins/ for your user, just create the directory if it does not exist
[02:47] <jrib> !multijava > shiryu (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:47] <mwe> lockd I don't know why it's not working right for you. supposedly tighvnc is working well for most people
[02:47] <jrib> shiryu: set your java alternative to sun's
[02:47] <hendaus> wols_:   --getfilebyid id [local_filename]  <-- here what should i type?
[02:48] <peteremcc> I'm having trouble with mounting and writing to and ntfs external hard drive... none of the suggestions from here have worked so can someone help me completely remove the hard drive so i can start all over again (short of re-installing ubuntu)? thanks
[02:48] <wols_> --getfile is no command. it won't work. you type more than that for it to work
[02:48] <lockd> mwe: if so, it's ONLY good for remote administration
[02:48] <wols_> peteremcc: reboot with the hdd not plugged in
[02:48] <Andreson> fock you all!
[02:48] <peteremcc> done that wols_
[02:48] <Andreson> fock you all!
[02:48] <wols_> peteremcc: since we don't know what you did, we cannot tell you how to "remove" it
[02:49] <lockd> mwe: I will have to use an anceint patch then, from old mailing lists
[02:49] <lockd> mwe: ancient
[02:49] <Vanax> Sweet, so coming in here was a waste of my time because nobody did anything to help.
[02:49] <shiryu> jrib  update-java-alternatives [--jre]  [--plugin]  [ -t|--test|-v|--verbose] 
[02:49] <shiryu>            -l|--list [<jname>] 
[02:49] <shiryu>            -s|--set <jname>
[02:49] <shiryu>            -a|--auto
[02:49] <shiryu>            -h|-?|--help
[02:49] <chump> !fuse
[02:49] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:49] <hendaus> wols_:  --getallfiles remote_path <-- help me please coz i have many documents and i need them on my pc, just tell me what should be on remote path?
[02:50] <jrib> shiryu: stop pasting here! use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org when you have something long to show us
[02:50] <LjL> Vanax, i asked you to tell me what *exactly* you've typed (following the !gpgerr instructions) and the output that each command gave you. i'm still waiting.
[02:50] <peteremcc> by 'remove' i guess i mean something like uninstalling and deleting from device manager in windows - though i recognise that this will probably work differently in ubuntu
[02:50] <mwe> !paste | shiryu
[02:50] <ubotu> shiryu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:50] <wols_> hendaus: either you answer my question or you don't talk to me
[02:50] <kronoman> I have a Motorola L6i , how I plug it into Linux using USB ?
[02:50] <paroxysm> i get a verbose shutdown with no usplash, but only on shutdown, boot up is fine. even when i tried the feisty livecd it was like that. any ideas?
[02:50] <kronoman> I plug it, the kernel detects it, but I don't know what to do with it
[02:51] <Morbis|Ruin> wols_, been looking at the forums and i think my problem is the MTU, how do i change it? that's the only i haven't been able to work out
[02:51] <jrib> shiryu: run this command: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[02:51] <Squirrely_Wrath> hmmmm....it appears beryl is technically working, but I get no actual effects...
[02:51] <bangers> how do I run a fsck against the / filesystem on my ubuntu server?
[02:51] <Vanax> LJL: i did that thing u sent me, and i got a # Automatically generated sources.list
[02:51] <Vanax> now what do i do with it
[02:51] <wols_> Morbis|Ruin: with a very convoluted iptables line I don't rememebr off hand
[02:51] <LjL> Vanax: *read the top section of it*! it's got INSTRUCTIONS!
[02:51] <bob__> anyone know of the .deb for bcmxx
[02:51] <shiryu> and then jrib?
[02:52] <jrib> shiryu: try frostwire again
[02:52] <sea> bcmxx? try fwcutter
[02:52] <wols_> bangers: remount / read only then fsck. or sudo touch /forcefsck and reboot
[02:52] <sea> fwcutter fixed my bcmxx on feisty :P
[02:52] <Morbis|Ruin> wols_, ah. i'll write a bit on a relevant thread on the forum and hope someone can give a full answer then, thanks for your help
[02:52] <naruto_> damn this is confusing
[02:52] <bob__> frostwire has vir
[02:52] <naruto_> i have no idea how to put my windows drive back
[02:52] <sebas_> how do I remove a full directory (containing files) using the terminal'
[02:52] <zero> hey exist a manual for ffmpeg  that is not   map ffmpeg?
[02:52] <jrib> !cli > sebas_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:53] <zero> i cant really understand anything from there
[02:53] <sangrelinux> wols_: worked!  Thanks!
[02:53] <wols_> sebas_: rn -rf. but be very very careful
[02:53] <kadaz> hello
[02:53] <ti4mi> Hello
[02:53] <hendaus> wols_:  <wols_> --getfile is no command. it won't work. you type more than that for it to work <--sorry i i mean this sudo gnokii --getallfiles remote_path
[02:53] <kadaz> I need some help with configuring a x server.
[02:53] <shiryu> ooh thanks jrib
[02:53] <wols_> hendaus: check the gnokii docs if it can display files like ls can
[02:53] <jrib> shiryu: np
[02:53] <shiryu> only one more thing
[02:54] <sebas_> wols_ with the omnipresent rm -rf / ?
[02:54] <OhMyGods> Who can help me,please. I'm running ubuntu-xfce4 in virtual pc. my mouse cann't move.
[02:54] <wols_> sebas_: yes. and its variations
[02:54] <shiryu> you know jrib a driver to linux x2350?
[02:54] <mwe> heh. talking of rm -rf. I remember typing rm -rf / path/to/some/dir as root a few years ago. go figure ...
[02:54] <shiryu> i only find for windows
[02:54] <zero> hello there is documentation form ffmpeg besides man ffmpeg?
[02:54] <OhMyGods> I'm install a base system,then install x-window-system-core xfce4.
[02:54] <jrib> shiryu: no, I have no idea what x2350 is
[02:54] <gigamonkey> Are the sources for Gnome available via Synaptic or do I need to download them from somewhere?
[02:55] <jrib> gigamonkey: apt-get source PACKAGE  grabs the source for PACKAGE
[02:55] <zero> i do not know if i make myself clear :S
[02:55] <LjL> zero: perhaps the ffmpeg website. or type "dpkg -L ffmpeg" to list all files from the ffmpeg package, including any documentation files.
[02:55] <Stormx2> gigamonkey: if you enable the source packages, yeah
[02:55] <wols_> gigamonkey: they are available via ubuntu repositories. e.g apt-get source
[02:55] <gigamonkey> jrib: thanks.
[02:55] <ti4mi> Which program can stat hard disk activity? just like ps/top instead for CPU for disks?
[02:55] <hendaus> wols_:  i got now , Failed to get file B:/image095.jpg: Command timed out , serial device: closing device, and how can i check the documents if it can display files ls?
[02:55] <shiryu> jrib is a lexmark printer
[02:55] <zero> LjL: ok, thank you
[02:55] <jrib> !printing > shiryu (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:55] <kadaz> I installed ubuntu and when I enable the driver for nvidia, xservice stopped. Right now Iam using onboard vga
[02:55] <Vanax> LJL: when i follow the instructions it says that i can edit the sources.list in the terminal, but when i try, it says permisison denied
[02:55] <smuggler8> how do i install ubuntu from a dvd-r?
[02:55] <jrib> shiryu: I don't know anything about it, but maybe the information ubotu sent you can help
[02:56] <LjL> gigamonkey: they're available as source packages, i don't know if synaptic can handle those. try creating a directory in your home and then typing "apt-get source <somepackage>" in that directory - that will get you the package's source. you'll have to hunt down the gnome bits, i suppose
[02:56] <shiryu> thanks
[02:56] <OhMyGods> LjL:  Can you help me, my mouse cann't move in xfce
[02:56] <mwe> smuggler8 burn and boot it
[02:56] <LjL> OhMyGods: i don't use xfce
[02:56] <_Codeman_> Can someone help me figure out how to compile LUFS?
[02:56] <OhMyGods> LjL:  oh.thanx
[02:56] <kadaz> smuggler, set your computer in the bios to boot up from cdrom first then ubuntu setup will install on computer startup.
[02:56] <jrib> gigamonkey: if you want all of gnome, it's probably a lot easier to use jhbuild for example to grab current svn
[02:56] <smuggler8> so just burn the ordinary iso to a blank dvd disc and it should boot and install just like a cd?
[02:57] <_Codeman_> I found something on one of the ubuntu forums but it failed
[02:57] <mwe> OhMyGods does it work in other window managers?
[02:57] <gigamonkey> jrib: Actually I just want Gtk+
[02:57] <OhMyGods> mwe:I just install xfce4.
[02:57] <LjL> Vanax: i have no idea what you are reading. the top section of the generated file, which is what i'm referring to, states:  If you get GPG errors with this sources.list, locate the GPG key in this file and run these commands (where KEY is replaced with that key): gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY    and     gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add . please do that.
[02:57] <wols_> smuggler8: yes
[02:57] <OhMyGods> mwe:but when I use the desktop.iso , It's ok.
[02:57] <hendaus> wols_:  i got now , Failed to get file B:/image095.jpg: Command timed out , serial device: closing device, and how can i check the documents if it can display files ls, if u know just help me and thanx
[02:58] <jrib> gigamonkey: what do you want to use it for?
[02:58] <smuggler8> thanks very much for the help. I love this OS and community, it's great
[02:58] <wols_> hendaus: I don't have a mobile. so no I don't
[02:58] <OhMyGods> mwe:so,I guess it's configure is wrong.
[02:58] <gigamonkey> jrib: I just want to see how things are implemented.
[02:58] <spiderman_> hi there, i just installed ubuntu 7, when i minimize windows or browser its hiding desktp panel and not visible, can any one tell me what to do?
[02:58] <hendaus> anyone familiar with gnokii helpers?????!!
[02:58] <noob> My dvd movie still doesn't work
[02:59] <jrib> gigamonkey: apt-get source libgtk2.0-0     should get you what you want
[02:59] <hendaus> Pelo:  wb
[02:59] <OhMyGods> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/2259
[02:59] <mwe> OhMyGods yes. sometimes stuff that work on the live-cd doesn't work out of the box when you install the system
[02:59] <kadaz> spiderman, update your ubuntu and reboot, it will fix the issue.
[02:59] <OhMyGods> mwe:It's my config file
[02:59] <Pelo> spiderman_,  you probabaly just deleted the windows_list from the pannel, you can add it back by rightclicking the pannel and selecting add to panel and then pick windows list
[02:59] <Pelo> hello hendaus
[02:59] <killaz> I just installed the new driver of nvidia, before this I backedup my xorg.conf. Now after putting back the xorg.confI see the nvidia splashscreen pass by but then the screen goes black on my TV
[02:59] <mwe> OhMyGods what kind of mouse, usb?
[02:59] <hendaus> Pelo:  hi too, how r u :)
[02:59] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes
[03:00] <hendaus> Pelo:  are u familiar with gnokii?
[03:00] <noob> how do I know if the dvd can't be played on a computer?
[03:00] <Pelo> hendaus, ok, just keeping an eye on the channel while I am watching vid
[03:00] <spiderman_> thank you got it
[03:00] <Pelo> hendaus,  I am not , what is gnokii ?
[03:00] <Enfirith> .fi
[03:00] <gigamonkey> jrib: that seems to be doing the trick. Thanks.
[03:00] <mwe> OhMyGods can you log into the console to get a prompt?
[03:00] <angel> hello
[03:00] <mwe> OhMyGods ctrl-alt-f1
[03:00] <hendaus> Pelo:  gnokii is program for mobiles cellphone
[03:01] <kadaz> noob, right click on your cdrom located in my computer and see if DVD is listed in the properties.
[03:01] <Pelo> mwe, stop taking the lord,s name in vain
[03:01] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes,I did it.
[03:01] <kadaz> wait, thats windows. heh.
[03:01] <MSTK> exit
[03:01] <MSTK> /exit
[03:01] <lockd> anyone use directvnc?
[03:01] <angel> can any one help me recently my border together with my title bar is gone didn't know how will i'll be able to get it back
[03:01] <Pelo> hendaus, I realy donT' know anything about it, do you have a specific issue ?
[03:01] <wols_> !anyone | lockd
[03:01] <ubotu> lockd: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:01] <mwe> OhMyGods, lsmod|grep usb, what does that output?
[03:02] <Firebird81> hello
[03:02] <Pelo> angel, are y ou using beryl ? ask in #beryl  they will know how to fix it
[03:02] <noob> kadaz: i can see a dvd
[03:02] <angel> Pelo, ubuntu
[03:02] <kadaz> Ok. then you can play dvds
[03:02] <lockd>         (#) DirectFBError [DirectFBCreate( &dfb )] : Initialization error!
[03:02] <Firebird81> When I boot Ubuntu(x86_64) version it posts a message: keeping kernel alive, then the screen goes blank. Whats the problem?
[03:02] <hendaus> Pelo:  i am looking at anyone familiar with gnokii just heping me how to get a file from cellphone to pc?
[03:02] <lockd> not pastebin'ing one line
[03:02] <Pelo> angel, you probably need to pick a new theme,   menu > system > prefs > theme, pick on at random
[03:03] <OhMyGods> mwe:no return
[03:03] <angel> will try that Pelo
[03:03] <mwe> OhMyGods ah
[03:03] <Pelo> hendaus, chances are if gnokii is a gui app you can probably drag and drop,   check in the various menues,  or look for a guid eon the  gnokii site
[03:03] <bangers> D:\Documents and Settings\mathew_plattz>ping emp1perforce.int.brizdev.com
[03:03] <bangers> Pinging emp1perforce.int.brizdev.com [10.251.122.12]  with 32 bytes of data:
[03:03] <bangers> Reply from 10.251.122.12: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=127
[03:03] <bangers> Reply from 10.251.122.12: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=127
[03:03] <bangers> Reply from 10.251.122.12: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=127
[03:03] <bangers> Reply from 10.251.122.12: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=127
[03:03] <angel> do i need to restart my pc Pelo?
[03:03] <bangers> Ping statistics for 10.251.122.12:
[03:03] <bangers>     Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
[03:03] <bangers> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
[03:03] <mwe> OhMyGods you need to load some modules. then if it works add to to autoload
[03:03] <bangers>     Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 2ms, Average = 0ms
[03:04] <Pelo> !paste | bangers
[03:04] <ubotu> bangers: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:04] <Pelo> angel, you shouldn'T need to
[03:04] <Pelo> angel,  are you using the desktop effects ?
[03:04] <bangers> sorry, accidentally dumped my clipboard
[03:04] <angel> yes i am using desktop effect Pelo
[03:04] <tritium> bangers: we noticed ;)
[03:04] <chinomoreno> oi ppl
[03:04] <OhMyGods> mwe:you mean, I have no usb driver modules?
[03:04] <kadaz> noob. are you trying to play a dvd?
[03:04] <bangers> wols_ I cant do that because i cant unmount the root FS
[03:04] <gigamonkey> jrib: I think it worked (I had to apt-get install dpkg-dev first). Where are the sources going to be?
[03:05] <bangers> how do i umount / ?
[03:05] <Pelo> angel,  ok then goto #ubuntu-effects  they will be able to tell you how to recovers your borders and titles
[03:05] <jrib> gigamonkey: current working directory
[03:05] <mwe> OhMyGods, sudo modprobe usbcore as well as usb-uhci hid and mousedev
[03:05] <mwe> OhMyGods you do but they're not loaded, it seems
[03:05] <martin_> #ubuntu-es
[03:06] <Pelo> martin_,    /join #ubunt....
[03:06] <speedemonV12> hey anyone having problems starting ubuntu live cd up on a mac?
[03:06] <hendaus> Pelo:  thanx :) bbl
[03:06] <gigamonkey> jrib: hmmmm, that seems to be the sources of the Ubuntu package building foo, not the actual source code.
[03:07] <mayorbuttes_> Hey to all you networking gurus out there. One network is able to ping another. However, this is not the same for visa versa
[03:07] <Pelo> hendaus, best of luck
[03:07] <jrib> gigamonkey: the source code will be in there, usually under src/
[03:07] <noob> kadaz: I can't play encrypted dvd's I believe
[03:07] <speedemonV12> im gettin the error that it cant load the X window environment
[03:07] <noob> kada: what should I install?
[03:07] <speedemonV12> im on a macbook pro
[03:07] <gigamonkey> jrib: no src/ directory. No .c files anywhere under the current directory.
[03:07] <Pelo> speedemonV12,  you'll have to use the alternate sintall cd, it is text based
[03:07] <mwe> mayorbuttes firewall?
[03:08] <kadaz> noob
[03:08] <speedemonV12> i just want to use the live cd tho.. i dont want to install yet
[03:08] <stumpleit> hi I just installed ubuntu on my macbook pro i completely wiped out os x and its wierd ubuntu loads up SOOOO slow and stuff like X doesn't work, do i need to install ubuntu via bootcamp?
[03:08] <Pelo> speedemonV12, if you can'T start x you won'T have the gui , sorry
[03:08] <mwe> OhMyGods did you modprobe the modules?
[03:08] <speedemonV12> so will this be a problem when i install ubuntu also ?
[03:08] <Solver> hi all.  I got a bad GPG key from security.ubuntu.com for Dapper
[03:08] <OhMyGods> mwe:sorry,my english is poor.that' sudo modprobe usbcore as well as usb-uhci hid and mousedev" is a hole command
[03:08] <Lounge> tor - what a pain
[03:09] <Lounge> can't get it to start
[03:09] <Solver> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:09] <mwe> OhMyGods no ;)
[03:09] <kadaz> noob, under system/admin  check out the packager, it will give you alot of downloads.
[03:09] <mwe> OhMyGods sudo modprobe usbcore. then sudo modprobe usb-uhci etc.
[03:09] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes, I did usbcore
[03:09] <Pelo> speedemonV12, you'll need to install using the alternate cd,  but the install will proceed and use a vesa driver,  you'll get a gui and you will then be able to isntall the proper drivers for your video card
[03:09] <jrib> gigamonkey: extract the tarball in upstream
[03:10] <OhMyGods> mwe:but the other cann't modprobe
[03:10] <kadaz> noob, Iam a noob to linux too. but there alot support in packages to get things working.
[03:10] <speedemonV12> so there is nothing that i can do in order to use a live cd beforehand?
[03:10] <mwe> OhMyGods now sudo modprobe usb-uhci
[03:10] <mwe> OhMyGods it can't?
[03:10] <mwe> OhMyGods what's it say?
[03:10] <Pelo> mwe,  please don'T use the enter key as punctuation
[03:10] <OhMyGods> mwe:my toy told me:not found
[03:11] <noob> I can't find libdvdcss2
[03:11] <macd> !info libdvdcss2
[03:11] <kadaz> noob,. have you looked under add and remove and see what players work for dvds?
[03:11] <mwe> OhMyGods, for usb-uhci?
[03:11] <jrib> noob: did you read the message ubotu sent you?
[03:11] <Pelo> noob, it's not in the regular repos  you need to add them to the list,
[03:11] <ubotu> libdvdcss2: Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu6 (feisty-seveas), package size 33 kB, installed size 112 kB
[03:11] <Pelo> !dvd | noob
[03:11] <ubotu> noob: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:11] <OhMyGods> mwe: usb-uhci and mousedev
[03:12] <kadaz> I need to help with getting my nvidia card working. I have onboard intel vga, and ubunto installed fine. but when I enbled the driver in ubunto, it asked to restart, then on the restart, I got an error that x service has been disabled.  now I at a command line and cant use a graphical interface. Iam now on livecd
[03:12] <Solver> Hmm  the BADSIG error seems to be a bug.  Hmm
[03:12] <speedemonV12> Pelo
[03:12] <mwe> OhMyGods and hid?
[03:12] <stumpleit> is there a special way to install ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[03:12] <speedemonV12> is there anything i can do to run a live cd ?
[03:12] <gigamonkey> jrib: Ah. I was lost in a maze of twisty tarballs, all different. Thanks.
[03:13] <OhMyGods> mwe:haha, I forgot it.
[03:13] <Pelo> kadaz, I assumed you re-enabled the nvidia card in your bios ?
[03:13] <Pelo> speedemonV12, not that I know of
[03:13] <angel> how can i connect to another channel like ubuntu effect
[03:13] <Pelo> angel,  /join #ubuntu-effects
[03:13] <kadaz> Once I enable the video card in the bios, ubunto loads up and freezes at the logo progress.
[03:13] <angel> thx again Pelo
[03:13] <Rodel> how do i downgrade my gaim from 2.0.0 to 1.3.0?
[03:13] <OhMyGods> mwe:hid is ok
[03:13] <mwe> OhMyGods oh and usbmouse
[03:14] <Pelo> kadaz, boot up the recovery mode and run   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:14] <noob> omg, do I have to type in a source list?
[03:14] <Alysum> hello how can I upgrade from Edgy to Feisty using the CD instead of downloading the packages ? thanks
[03:14] <hendaus> Pelo: what is remote_filename and local_filename -->gnokii --getfile remote_filename [local_filename] 
[03:14] <OhMyGods> mwe:usbmouse is ok
[03:14] <cafuego> Just insert the CD and click 'Yes' when it asks.
[03:14] <Pelo> Rodel,   in synatpic in the package'S rightclick properties you can select previous versions to be used if available
[03:15] <kadaz> k thx, ill try that now
[03:15] <mwe> OhMyGods uhci-hcd
[03:15] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes.
[03:15] <angel> Pelo, i am new in using ubuntu how would i create a work group?
[03:15] <Pelo> hendaus,  remote filename would probably the path and name of the file on your cellphone,  and local the same but on your computer
[03:15] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes.uhci-hcd is ok
[03:15] <mwe> OhMyGods psmouse
[03:16] <Alysum> it doesnt ask anything
[03:16] <Rodel> Pelo, how do i get into synaptic?
[03:16] <OhMyGods> mwe:psmouse is ok
[03:16] <mwe> OhMyGods good
[03:16] <Pelo> angel, I donT' know I'm jsut a home user I havne'T had to deal with network sfuff,    try looking in here  http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/unleashed/
[03:16] <angel> thx
[03:16] <Pelo> Rodel,   menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[03:16] <vaca> er irc.cl
[03:16] <hendaus> Pelo: --getfile A:/image095.lpg /home/hendaus <-- is it like this?
[03:16] <h3h_timo> hey all, i just fresh installed 7.04 and was wondering if anyone had experience with cpu scaling?? the reason i havent been able to stay in ubuntu is because my fan on my laptop is always crankin and its annoying... ive installed some scaling features but any additional help is appreciated
[03:16] <mwe> OhMyGods now grep mic /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell me the output
[03:16] <dpak> None of my players play avi file well. There is sound, but no video. This includes players like vlc. I also got win32codecs, but it still doesn't work. Can somebody help me?
[03:17] <p1ls> how can i see my processors running?
[03:17] <Pelo> hendaus,  assuming A: is the mount point of your phone yes,   but I doubt it is, this is not windows/dos , you need to figure out where you phone is mounted
[03:17] <norman> after a update in feisty the network manager applet is not showing details about the conecction, my conection is wired have conection but only manage static ip no dhcp, anyone with same problem?
[03:17] <OhMyGods> mwe:option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
[03:17] <Rodel> Pelo, it wont open...
[03:17] <p1ls> how can i see my processors running?
[03:17] <smuggler8> I have a pentium 4 laptop that I would like to install ubuntu on, however I would also like to run my existing XP install via VM is this easy to do?
[03:17] <Pelo> Rodel, try typing  gksu synaptic in the terminal
[03:18] <mwe> OhMyGods good. sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart, login and see if it works. if it does you need to add the modules to autoload
[03:18] <p1ls> how can i see my processors running?
[03:18] <Solver> smuggler8: sure.  Dapper has vmplayer as a package now.  Easier than ever
[03:18] <Pelo> smuggler8, it can be done but I haven'T managed it so far,  try asking in #vmware they would know better
[03:18] <Gerro> any tremulous fans here have annoying console spewing opengl errors on their windows box when they try to LAN game?
[03:18] <wols_> p1ls: sudo top, sudo ps aux
[03:18] <hendaus> Pelo: how can i found where's my cell phone is mounted?
[03:18] <Solver> more recent versions probably do too
[03:18] <OhMyGods> mwe:I have no gdm.
[03:18] <dpak> None of my players play avi file well. There is sound, but no video. This includes players like vlc. I also got win32codecs, but it still doesn't work. Can somebody help me?
[03:18] <Pelo> hendaus, try looking in the system monitor  4th tab I think
[03:19] <Solver> smuggler8: oh your _existing_ install.  Sorry, I should have read more closely.  Yeah that will be trickier
[03:19] <noob> AH, I can't add a source list
[03:19] <chinomoreno> my temperatures reach 100C in windows i resolved this with a program "notebook hardware control"  and i reduced voltages and temperatures droped a little bit anyone can help me doing this in linux , i'm noob
[03:19] <OhMyGods> mwe:I'm install a base system,then install x-window-system-core xfce4
[03:19] <Pelo> hendaus, ifyour cellphone is being recognised as a storage media it should have been mounted to your desktop
[03:19] <smuggler8> hmm, thought so. maybe i should just backup and do a fresh install
[03:19] <Rodel> Pelo, it returns "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[03:19] <hendaus> Pelo:  [local_filename]  <-- what should be for example?
[03:19] <mwe> OhMyGods then startx and see if it works
[03:19] <Gerro> chinomoreno: do acpi -t
[03:19] <chinomoreno> ok
[03:19] <Pelo> Rodel,  then you have a problem, and I don'T knwo how to fix it
[03:20] <[Thom] > What is a good partition size for Ubuntu 6 Server?
[03:20] <Rodel> ut oh
[03:20] <dpak> None of my players play avi file well. There is sound, but no video. This includes players like vlc. I also got win32codecs, but it still doesn't work. Can somebody help me?
[03:20] <Pelo> hendaus,   /home/hendaus/whateveryouwant.xxx
[03:20] <smuggler8> what i would like to achieve is a stable ubuntu system with beryl. But be able to run the odd MS or maybe even OS x software
[03:20] <OhMyGods> mwe:no,I still cann't move it
[03:20] <Alysum> upgrade is using the net not the CD...
[03:20] <Pelo> dpak,  in mplyare check in properties under vidoe make sure the X11 one is selected,
[03:20] <mwe> [Thom]  that depends on a lot of things
[03:21] <hendaus> Pelo:  ok, but still i dont found where is my cell phone mounted?
[03:21] <mwe> OhMyGods hmm
[03:21] <Pelo> Alysum,  you can also upgrade using the alternate install cd
[03:21] <shiryu> someone can help me when i open frostwire the windows i white nothing appears
[03:21] <Alysum> Pelo: how can I force it to use the CD ?
[03:21] <jeanke> hi there im new here ;)
[03:21] <mwe> OhMyGods well at least it wont work without those modules
[03:21] <Pelo> hendaus, I realy can't help you with that bit, I donT' know how gnokii works,  check on their site or try finding a channel for them
[03:21] <dpak> Pelo: I don't think I've downloaded MPlayer. Is there a way to make it work with vlc?
[03:21] <mwe> OhMyGods does it work with gpm?
[03:21] <chinomoreno> Gerro,  Battery 1: discharging, 71%, rate information unavailable.
[03:21] <chinomoreno>      Thermal 1: ok, 54.0 degrees C      ,  with pluged reaches 90/100 degrees
[03:21] <Pelo> !upgrade > Alysum  check pm for instructions
[03:22] <smuggler8> I can just see rebooting being a problem. Can someone tell me if VM is a viable way of running xp/OS X software?
[03:22] <noob> W: GPG error: http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net feisty-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[03:22] <mwe> OhMyGods and ls /dev/input/mice present?
[03:22] <noob> what should I do?
[03:22] <Pelo> dpak,  same proceedure
[03:22] <noob> it's not working
[03:22] <hendaus> Pelo:  ok
[03:22] <oldude67_> shiryu, if you have java installed go to term and type in frostwire
[03:22] <[Thom] > mwe: Ok, I have 2 250G drives that I'm using collectively as a RAID1 device.  I'm not installing a desktop at all, and the system is really just going to be a file server plus LAMP
[03:22] <Alysum> txa
[03:22] <Pelo> noob,  you need to get the key,  the wget thing on the site
[03:22] <Alysum> txs
[03:22] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes , mice file is there
[03:23] <OhMyGods> mwe: what's gpm,sorry
[03:23] <noob> http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/feisty-seveas/extras/
[03:23] <noob> what key
[03:23] <mwe> OhMyGods is xserver-xorg-input-mouse installed?
[03:23] <OhMyGods> mwe:I need install it?
[03:23] <chinomoreno> Gerro,  no?
[03:23] <shiryu> olddude67_ and then?
[03:23] <mwe> OhMyGods gpm is a mouse daemon for use in the console
[03:24] <Fenster> hey guys, anyone using ubuntu full time and then windows in virtualbox
[03:24] <Gerro> chinomoreno: umm turn on acpid service then
[03:24] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, it's usually just best to ask your real question straight out ;-)
[03:24] <chinomoreno> how? sorry im noob
[03:24] <Pelo> noob, just download the deb package mentionned   http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/pool/feisty-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu6_i386.deb
[03:24] <oldude67_> shiryu, hit enter and it should run...
[03:24] <gecko89> hi, wondering if anyone can help me configure a LAMP server
[03:24] <Fenster> that was my question
[03:24] <Fenster> then I would ask... is it pretty good?
[03:24] <OhMyGods> mwe: I key in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-mouse", but no prompt
[03:25] <shiryu> it open but it only is white
[03:25] <Alysum> is the alternate installation CD the same as the Feisty desktop edition cd ?
[03:25] <supernova_> i had a huge problem earlier today.. i couldnt install the ati drivers from their homepage (a .run file)... i got a syntax error bad substitutan or something
[03:25] <norman> anyone
[03:25] <supernova_> any ideas onhow to get pass that?
[03:25] <shiryu> it appears frostwire and then a window open but theres nothing there
[03:25] <Pelo> Alysum,  no,  it says alternate  ,  the desktop one is the new name for live cd
[03:25] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, depends what it's good for.  It's good for some windows progs, not for others.  Basically, anything I like I can run in the vmware, but, not 3d apps like games, and it is slightly slower than natively on windows.
[03:25] <oldude67_> then have you installed frostwire?
[03:25] <gr1mr34per> anyone know any drivers for broadcom 802.11 g/b for xubuntu?
[03:25] <norman> why there dhcp configuration disapear?
[03:25] <norman> someone
[03:25] <mwe> OhMyGods try this first.
[03:25] <norman> could help please
[03:26] <Fenster> Lunar_Lamp... so you think I would have pretty good luck with just standard apps,,, not games
[03:26] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, yup :-)
[03:26] <Alysum> Pelo: but wouldnt the live cd have the latest packages to upgrade ?
[03:26] <Fenster> and should run with little slow down?
[03:26] <Pelo> norman, try not to use the enter key as punctiation,  and I donT' know, check the forum
[03:26] <Lunar_Lamp> there are plenty of guides on setting up vmware too :-)
[03:26] <mwe> OhMyGods sudo cat /dev/input/mouse0 and move the mouse around, tell me if you see funny stuff
[03:26] <dpak> Pelo: I went to preference and looked at "Output modules" under "Video" and clicked on "X11". It shows check on "Use shared memory" and no check on "Alternate fullscreen method".
[03:26] <greg_g> how does one enable a swap partition which is already made?
[03:26] <chinomoreno> Gerro,  i put sudo acpid service , appeared acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[03:26] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, just don't expect any devices to magically start working that don't in linux - you can't get hardware not detected by the linux kernel to work in vmware.
[03:26] <Fenster> Lunar_Lamp... any idea if the windows keycheck will hiccup with a fresh install in vmware
[03:26] <Pelo> Alysum,  you cannot upgrade from the desktop cd it isn'T made for it , you need to use the alternate install cd for the version you want to upgrade to
[03:26] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, it worked for me :-)
[03:27] <Alysum> Pelo: ok thks
[03:27] <shiryu> yes olddude67_
[03:27] <gr1mr34per> any drivers available for broadcom 802.11 wireless recieveR?
[03:27] <Fenster> Lunar_Lamp... mine is legit :\
[03:27] <noob> Pelo, where should I put it?
[03:27] <norman> ok
[03:27] <Pelo> gr1mr34per, try searching for you model in the forum
[03:27] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, yeah, as long as you don't have it installed elsewhere then it should be fine :-)
[03:27] <p1ls> how can i see my processors running?
[03:27] <Fenster> so Lunar_Lamp... I must have full hardware support in ubuntu, to have the gear work in windows xp?
[03:27] <oldude67_> shiryu, did you have java installed before frostwire or after?
[03:27] <shiryu> after
[03:27] <Pelo> noob,  on your desktop and then dble click it
[03:27] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, correct.
[03:27] <Pelo> p1ls,  top
[03:28] <oldude67_> shiryu, i had to delete frostwire and reinstall it to get it to work when i did that...
[03:28] <dpak> Pelo: Also there are textfield next to "X11 display", and some kind of vale for "Screen for fullscreen mode".
[03:28] <p1ls> what abour processors like programs
[03:28] <Alysum> Pelo: where can I DL the alternate cd pls ?
[03:28] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, for example, your keyboard multimedia buttons aren't detected by the linux kernel - they won't work in vmware either.
[03:28] <Fenster> interesting.. I really want to switch to ubuntu, but I like some of my windows apps
[03:28] <shiryu> ok ill try it
[03:28] <dpak> p1ls: type "top"
[03:28] <Fenster> Lunar_Lamp.. I gotcha
[03:28] <p1ls> did
[03:28] <OhMyGods> mwe:It still running.I press Ctrl+C then return.
[03:28] <Pelo> dpak, I have no idea what that means
[03:28] <imontoya> hola
[03:28] <Fenster> is there a laptop compatibilty chart that you know of?
[03:28] <Pelo> !download | Alysum
[03:28] <ubotu> Alysum: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[03:28] <noob> how do I install a deb package with synaptics?
[03:28] <dpak> Pelo: Ok
[03:28] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, I used vmware for a while (stats program called SPSS I needed to use), though I don't even use that anymore - pure linux :-)
[03:29] <[Thom] > mwe: Ok, I have 2 250G drives that I'm using collectively as a RAID1 device.  I'm not installing a desktop at all, and the system is really just going to be a file server plus LAMP
[03:29] <mwe> OhMyGods nothing happend. like strange characters on the console, moving the mouse ?
[03:29] <Pelo> dpak,  this is  the video player problem ? just leave it blank
[03:29] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, it's generally best to look around at laptops and then try and see how compatible they are with linux.  As a general rule though, IBM/Lenovo has great linux support.
[03:29] <OhMyGods> mwe:no thing
[03:29] <Pelo> dpak,  you just need to select the x11 thing , that is all ,
[03:29] <chinomoreno> Gerro,  plse py laptop will burn when my bat over lol
[03:29] <Fenster> Im on an HP
[03:29] <mwe> OhMyGods hmm
[03:29] <spikeb> dell has a linux laptop.
[03:29] <Pelo> dpak,  you can also probably get better help on this in #vlc
[03:29] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, ah, if you have the laptop already - just google for your laptop model and "linux".
[03:30] <KerBeroS> hello!
[03:30] <noob> pelo: I got amd64
[03:30] <dpak> Pelo: ok
[03:30] <Pelo> noob, sigh, hold on
[03:30] <noob> .D
[03:31] <Fenster> grrrr
[03:31] <mwe> OhMyGods I'm not sure what to do next, sorry
[03:31] <Fenster> stinkin wifi drivers
[03:31] <Fenster> why are the linux gurus having so much trouble with them?
[03:31] <p1ls> how can i kill gkrellm?
[03:31] <erstazi> hello, every time I use svn and I use an url with http:// I get "svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://svn.syscp.org/trunk/syscp-1.3'"
[03:31] <OhMyGods> mwe:I can exec "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:31] <erstazi> and of course, I verified that the url is existing
[03:31] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, ah yes, wifi can be hard as the wireless chip makers don't release the info needed to write the drivers.  It's possible they will work via ndiswrapper though (a way of using the windows drivers in linux)
[03:31] <OhMyGods> mwe: ok.thank you very much.
[03:32] <p1ls> how can i kill gkrellm?
[03:32] <mwe> OhMyGods typing sudo cat /dev/input/mice then moving the mouse should output funny characters to the terminal
[03:32] <Pelo> noob, the key I was talking about earlier is on the frontpage   http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/, use it your repos will be enabled and you will be able to get everying with apt-get
[03:32] <mwe> p1ls killall gkrellm
[03:32] <mwe> p1ls like with xscreensaver
[03:32] <p1ls> thx
[03:32] <chump> !fuse
[03:32] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:32] <OhMyGods> mwe:no.
[03:33] <chinomoreno> can anyone help me reduce voltages?
[03:33] <asdf> can anyone recommend a linux-only (not available in windows or mac) virtualization package?
[03:33] <Ubulindy> I see your name, but not where you posted anything
[03:33] <gr1mr34per> all the way on top
[03:33] <mo0osah> !ntfs
[03:33] <gr1mr34per> lol
[03:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:33] <gr1mr34per> !wlan
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <mwe> OhMyGods. I'm almost sure it's because of some module not being loaded. I'm not sure which, though.
[03:33] <mo0osah> !ntfs-3g
[03:33] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:34] <shiryu> oldude67_ i quit frostwire then reinstall it and its the same
[03:34] <gr1mr34per> anyone know any drivers for broadcom 802.11 g/b wlan drivers?
[03:34] <rhys> gr1mr34per, the bcm43xx drivers?
[03:34] <OhMyGods> mwe:ok.then I reinstall the whole iso. thank you for all.
[03:34] <gr1mr34per> no clue
[03:34] <mwe> OhMyGods wait
[03:34] <gr1mr34per> its not showing me the model
[03:34] <oldude67_> shiryu, then you might need the help of someone that has had the same problem, mine worked after that...
[03:34] <rhys> download bcmfwcutter, use it with your .sys file to extract the firmware to /lib/firmware
[03:34] <[Thom] > What is a good partition swap size for a 2X250G RAID system?  Also, what is a good partition size for /home on the same system?
[03:35] <noob> Should I import the keyfile?
[03:35] <oldude67_> shiryu,sorry i cant help you anymore...
[03:35] <mwe> OhMyGods reinstalling will bring you in the same situation again. do the same thing and expecting a different outcome is not rational
[03:35] <rhys> gr1mr34per, second.
[03:35] <shiryu> ok or can you tell me
[03:35] <shiryu> what file i select when i open bittorrent
[03:35] <wols> [Thom] : swap size depends purely on available RAM and inteded usage
[03:36] <wols> [Thom] : /home size on intended usage as well
[03:36] <Pelo> [Thom] , /home should be as big as you can,   swap is based on the memory you have availabe, the lesser memory the bigger the swap,
[03:36] <rhys> gr1mr34per, http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php/Broadcom_bcm43xx_native < you can get the bcm43xx-fwcutter program from apt.
[03:36] <shiryu> and says open location for bittorrent meta file
[03:36] <OhMyGods> mwe:I'm installed the base-system. now I want to install the desktop.iso
[03:36] <oldude67_> shiryu, i only use frostwire or limewire
[03:36] <shiryu> mm ok
[03:36] <rhys> gr1mr34per, if yours is a 4306 (you can check by lspci) then the file i provided will make it work.
[03:36] <Pelo> OhMyGods, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:36] <mwe> OhMyGods try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop first
[03:36] <shiryu> nobody knows what i do when i open bittorrent and it says open location for bittorrent meta file?
[03:36] <mwe> OhMyGods or xubuntu-desktop
[03:36] <drini> is there a package to read an unfinished-burned data dvd (lights went off 30 secs before finishing) so most of the data is there,but the disk can't be mounted
[03:36] <[Thom] > wols: I have 1G of ram and this will be Ubuntu server that will mostly be used as a file server and LAMP.
[03:36] <drini> ?
[03:36] <OhMyGods> mwe:ok
[03:36] <mwe> OhMyGods if you want xfce4
[03:37] <mwe> OhMyGods ubuntu-desktop is gnome
[03:37] <mwe> OhMyGods maybe you're missing something in the install for the mouse to work properly
[03:37] <Pelo> [Thom] ,  I have 1 gig of ram and 2 gig of swap and I barely use the swap,   mind you I'm only on a home desktop
[03:37] <wols> how big is your mysql dataset?
[03:37] <rhys> does anyone have a good howto on Jack? i need to make gtick work with it
[03:37] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes.maby is "x-window-system-core" is too small
[03:38] <mwe> Pelo  2 gigs of swap. wow
[03:38] <[Thom] > wols: me?  It won't be very large.
[03:38] <Pelo> mwe,  it was the default with my original install
[03:38] <mwe> Pelo I see
[03:38] <OhMyGods> Pelo:  thank u. I try xubuntu first
[03:38] <n2diy> can I apt-get edubuntu?
[03:38] <mwe> Pelo it's a lot
[03:38] <mistone> can I dual boot windows 98 with ubuntu ?
[03:38] <Pelo> mwe,  like I said , I barely use any
[03:39] <mwe> Pelo I suppose it would suggest 16GB swap if you had 8GB of ram then?
[03:39] <Pelo> mwe,  I barely use half my ram
[03:39] <noob> pelo: I got it to work, but i cant find libdvdcss
[03:39] <julioh> toche ubuntu
[03:39] <Pelo> mwe,  as far as I know it is the other way around,  less RAM more swap,  swap is more or less a ram extension
[03:39] <[Thom] > Also, since I am setting up two drives in a RAID configuration do I have to have swap space on each drive?  I'm guessing not.
[03:40] <Pelo> noob, are you sure it is installed ?
[03:40] <Pelo> [Thom] ,  I would assume not
[03:40] <robert_> is there a way to enable all defaults in Beryl Settings manager?
[03:40] <noob> pelo: It's not complaining now on the new s
[03:40] <Pelo> robert_, ask in #beryl
[03:40] <robert_> i did
[03:40] <mwe> Pelo there is an old rule of thumb to have double the swap of your ram but that doesn't make sense with a lot of ram. like you say little ram -> much swap
[03:40] <mistone> does it dual boot 98
[03:41] <[Thom] > I keep reading that it's good to put /home on it's own partition, how large should that partition be?
[03:41] <[Thom] > and /tmp is a good one to partition off as well...
[03:41] <paroxysm> i get a verbose shutdown with no usplash, but only on shutdown, boot up is fine. even when i tried the feisty livecd it was like that. any ideas?
[03:42] <noob> damn, why isn't libdvdcss showing up?
[03:42] <Pelo> mwe,  not realy my area of expertise,  but I would expect that someone running a lot of memory instensive apps might need more swap even with a lot of ram
[03:42] <drini> is there  a way to raw-read a data dvd and extract the files from a failed burning?
[03:42] <mwe> [Thom]  that depends on how many movies and stuff you wanna keep there
[03:42] <OldSchoolkz> Can i update from an earlier edition of ubuntu to the latest with out making a cd
[03:42] <spikeb> yes OldSchoolkz
[03:42] <drowner> Hi everyone. WHo wants to help me?
[03:42] <drowner> I'll make it worth your while ;)
[03:43] <redcard> drowner: Just go ahead and ask :)
[03:43] <[Thom] > mwe: Movies? I will have a lot of files on this server, but do they need to be in the /home directory?
[03:43] <killown> What I need to affiliate for ubuntu project?
[03:43] <drowner> I want to remove windows. I haven't booted it for 10 weeks. So i can live without it
[03:43] <Pelo> [Thom] , it's more of a question of how much you need for the rest ,  part a part for swap and for / and use what is left for /home ,  I have 10 gig for / , 2 gig for swap and the rest for my /home one a 80 gig hdd,    and 10 gig is too much for my /   I could have gone with 5  I barely use 2.8
[03:43] <mwe> Pelo maybe yes. I think having 16GB swapped out would suck, though. but I'm just thinking. that can be dangerous
[03:44] <Gerro> http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4745
[03:44] <Pelo> mwe,  not dangerous , just useless,   swap will only realy be used if your memory gets maxed out
[03:44] <redcard> drowner: Well, two recommendations.  You can reinstall Ubuntu and use the entire disk.. or .. you can format the disk using mkfs.ext3fs
[03:44] <redcard> drowner: I would honestly recommend the first one.. a nice reinstall :)
[03:44] <mwe> Pelo I meant thinking can be dangerous ;)
[03:44] <[Thom] > Pelo: how much I need for the rest of what?
[03:44] <drowner> redcard: i like my ubuntu just the way it is ;)
[03:45] <redcard> drowner: Cool :)
[03:45] <drowner> so what i was going to do, cause i want to make my / partition bigger is boot my gparted cd
[03:45] <mwe> Pelo I think your partitioning scheme sounds all right, though.
[03:45] <drowner> delete the ntfs partition, and make the / one bigger. But i have questions.
[03:45] <OldSchoolkz> spikeb  do you know of a link to this information
[03:46] <spikeb> !upgrade | OldSchoolkz
[03:46] <ubotu> OldSchoolkz: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:46] <redcard> drowner: I've always just reinstalled, personally.. but.. I don't think what you are saying is fundamentally bad or wrong.
[03:46] <Pelo> [Thom] ,  you need to read the rest of what I wrote,     you only need about 10 gig to run ubuntu  the rest you use for /home
[03:46] <mwe> Pelo 10 GB for / could be nice if you decide to install a lot of stuff in /opt later for example. an 60+ for /home is sure a lot
[03:46] <drowner> redcard: my questions are, i guess i have to unmount the / , i dont know if the gparted live cd will mount it, but thats cool, i can work that out
[03:46] <OldSchoolkz> Thanks that was what i was looking for
[03:47] <mwe> drowner it wont
[03:47] <[Thom] > mwe: If this is going to be a fileserver with a lot of .mp3's, where should I keep the rest of the space, /home ?
[03:47] <Pelo> mwe,  I also have a 60 gig partition on another drive that I mouned in /home/user/download and I send all my p2p stuff there so my main hdd doesnt, get over used
[03:47] <drowner> redcard: now, my concerns are with grub: do i need to make the / partition bootable? Will removing hd(0,0) cause grub to crack a mental? if you know what i mean?
[03:47] <wols> [Thom] : create an extra "network drive" directory
[03:47] <chrometiger> could someone point me in a good direction other that ubuntu's "restricted formats" page to install w32codecs to play .wmv files ?
[03:47] <mwe> [Thom]  you wouldn't serve files in /home
[03:47] <redcard> drowner: This is honestly why I'd just reinstall :P  I've never really done this stuff.. I just output my list of packages, copy my data, and reinstall :)
[03:48] <[Thom] > mwe: ok, so I should create another partition called like /media or something
[03:48] <Pelo> chrometiger, http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/
[03:48] <mwe> [Thom]  not media, but yes
[03:48] <wols> [Thom] : yes
[03:48] <chump> !esata
[03:48] <wols> media is already taken...
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <Pelo> [Thom] ,  you donT' want to use  /media it is being used by ubuntu
[03:48] <drowner> redcard: I know what your saying. but i'm not sure if i can be bothered reinstalling all the codecs, gtkpod, etc etc etc. Fortunately, all my music is on an external drive.
[03:48] <spikeb> bah. mediabuntu is madae exactly for stuff like w32codecs.
[03:49] <keanne> anyone using vmware server from automatix?
[03:49] <[Thom] > mwe: Thanks
[03:49] <redcard> drowner: Hmm.
[03:49] <[Thom] > wols: Thanks
[03:49] <kadaz> back
[03:49] <[Thom] > Pelo: Thanks
[03:49] <Pelo> [Thom] , you'Re welcome
[03:49] <chrometiger> Pelo: that for w32codecs ?
[03:49] <mwe> [Thom]  some people like to have just one large root partition
[03:49] <Pelo> chrometiger, it is in there , somewhere
[03:50] <keanne> how do you install vmware tools? it is disabled when guest OS is off, but can't be installed when guest OS is on.
[03:50] <chrometiger> hehe
[03:50] <[Thom] > mwe: Yeah that would be easiest but I read that for performance I should have at least /home and a swap
[03:50] <Pelo> keanne, try asking in #vmware
[03:50] <wols> keanne: ask #vmware not us
[03:50] <mwe> keanne it can only be installed when the guest os is on
[03:50] <Pelo> kadaz,  I don'T take private msg , talk to me in the channel
[03:51] <keanne> Pelo wols, i was hoping there are other things which needs to be installed via apt-get
[03:51] <noob> ah, I'm installing it manually
[03:51] <keanne> mwe, thanks.
[03:51] <mwe> [Thom]  swap yes
[03:51] <drowner> so, does anyone have any clues for me?
[03:51] <wols> !automatix | keanne
[03:51] <ubotu> keanne: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:51] <Pelo> drowner, what is your issue again ?
[03:51] <drowner> I want to remove windows. I haven't booted it for 10 weeks. So i can live without it
[03:51] <drowner> delete the ntfs partition, and make the / one bigger. But i have questions.
[03:52] <drowner> redcard: now, my concerns are with grub: do i need to make the / partition bootable? Will removing hd(0,0) cause grub to crack a mental? if you know what i mean?
[03:52] <mwe> [Thom]  I doubt creating a seperate /home pertition will influence performance much is anything
[03:52] <mwe> [Thom]  there might be other reasons, though
[03:52] <Pelo> drowner, boot up the live cd ,  move the / partiontion,  the rezise it , you need to move it first because you canT' resize to the left,  donT, mess with grub
[03:52] <[Thom] > mwe: Like?
[03:53] <wols> drowner: totally removing it will reorder things. keep a live cd handy. reinstall grub. or delete the partition unde ubuntu and immedialtey reinstall grub and check menu.lst and fstab
[03:53] <keanne> ubotu, oh, is that so? i am still trying out ubuntu, and the only reason why i installed automatix was i read an article about ubuntu + automatix. guess i should have come here first before installing it.
[03:53] <Pelo> keanne, ubotu  is a bot
[03:53] <Pelo> !ubotu
[03:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:53] <rococo> a separate /home is useful because it lets you keep your docs/multimedia/whatever files separate from your system/OS files, so you can actually use the same /home for multiple distros, or just have an easy time should you ever have to reinstall
[03:53] <Pelo> !botsnack
[03:53] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:53] <mwe> [Thom]  like making reinstallation easier, or if you muck up one partition the other one will stay
[03:53] <drowner> wols: so i SHOULDNT remove the NTFS partition?
[03:53] <robert_> is there a way to enable all defaults in Beryl Settings manager?
[03:54] <noob> oh god, why must it be so hard
[03:54] <wols> docta_v: you can remove it. or reformat to use with ubuntu
[03:54] <mwe> [Thom]  I'd definately create a seperate partition for the files to be served
[03:54] <[Thom] > mwe: Can you see any reason to split off /tmp into its own partition?
[03:54] <Pelo> drowner,   remove the ntfs partition,   then move the / partiton to the left, then resize the / partition fo use the available space,  and do not mess with grub
[03:55] <[Thom] > mwe: and if so, how big?
[03:55] <rococo> robert_: in settings manager, click "Settings, Profiles, and Desktop Integration", choose <Default>, click "Load/Activate", done
[03:55] <[Thom] > mwe: same question for /var
[03:55] <Pelo> noob, because you have led a bad life
[03:55] <mwe> [Thom]  not really. I know some people like it
[03:55] <wols> hotlug: pelo how will grub find its stage1.5 when you move the partition? answer: it can't
[03:55] <chump> can i use a eSata hard drive like a usb hard drive in 7.04 ? or i need to add it to the fstab ?
[03:55] <drowner> pelo: grub will be ok? I mean, i guess it currently looks for menu.lst on hd0,2 or something, but now it will need to look on 0,0, does this make sense?
[03:55] <noob> the thing is that there should be amd64 version of it,
[03:55] <wols> Pelo: if you move the partition that has grub files on it you ALWAYS need to reinstall grub
[03:56] <Pelo> wols, good point,  he'll need to reinstall grub
[03:56] <robert_> rocco there is no tab for settins in Beryl Settings manaer
[03:56] <wols> Pelo: and if a parttion was hda2 and is now suddenly hda1, you might at least check menu.lst and fstab
[03:56] <mwe> [Thom]  if I were you I'd create a partition for the file server a swap and maybe /home if you like
[03:56] <[Thom] > mwe: In the official Ubuntu book it says to do that so you can pick ReiserFS for /tmp because it handles many small files much better, but I don't know how big to make it.
[03:56] <wols> or grub might not boot
[03:56] <noob> and all this dapper edgy multiverse universe world bad bla bla bla, it's makes no sense
[03:56] <rococo> robert_: it's in the sidebar under "General Options"
[03:56] <wols> thomax: don't make it an extra partition
[03:56] <Pelo> dromer,  save yourself some trouble,   bakup your /home ,  reinstall ubuntu from scratch using the whole hdd , make a seperate partition for /home
[03:56] <noob> it
[03:57] <mwe> [Thom]  don't bother it's usually not that busy anyway
[03:57] <wols> [Thom] : depending how big your websites will be you can make /var one
[03:57] <[Thom] > wols: it will likely only be 1 website.
[03:57] <drowner> pelo: will i lose all my installed apps and codecs, etc?
[03:57] <mwe> [Thom]  you don't need like 10 partitions then
[03:57] <corevette> how do you run .bin files?
[03:57] <wols> [Thom] : one website can be big or smalle. www.google..com is only one website
[03:58] <Pelo> noob,  there are a lot of things that are not available for amd64 , that is why we generaly tell ppl to install the i386 version
[03:58] <Pelo> drowner, yep, but they are easy enough to reinstall
[03:58] <mwe> [Thom]  for a busy server with many connections it might make sense
[03:58] <Pelo> drowner, and you'll know what you're doing this time
[03:58] <[Thom] > mwe: What might make sense?
[03:59] <[Thom] > wols: Good point.
[03:59] <kadaz> !install
[03:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:59] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom]  i've been doing Linux since 97..on my servers I make a / - /home and /var - /var because if the logs overflowed it can effect the whole system...don't worry about slicing it up a hundred ways
[03:59] <mwe> [Thom]  I'd stick to a partition for the file server a swap and maybe /home.
[04:00] <caravel> I seem to remember the installer's gui gave a more 'guided' choice about where to store grub, right ? I just entered "(hda0,5)" in the advanced box, crossing fingers :)
[04:00] <[Thom] > And /home should be like 20G ?
[04:00] <mwe> [Thom]  creating a /tmp partition with a file system that handles small files well if the site is really busy. and /var as well
[04:00] <drowner> could i not do the following: use gparted to delete the NTFS partition, load a live cd distro (i use DSL, cause my computer is slow) and then modify menu.lst and fstab?
[04:00] <[Thom] > mwe: /home should be like 20G ?
[04:00] <noob> should I reinstall with the 32 bit version?
[04:00] <noob> But will it go slower?
[04:00] <caravel> s/hda0,5/hd0,5/ (of course)
[04:00] <Pelo> noob,  not realy
[04:01] <mwe> [Thom]  that depends on what you wanna keep there and how many users there'll be
[04:01] <noob> oh god, 4 in the morning but whata heck
[04:01] <dfwlinuxguy> x
[04:01] <[Thom] > 20 G might be too much.
[04:01] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom} - / 10G - /var 4G the rest /home
[04:01] <mwe> [Thom]  if you don't keep your movies and stuff in your homedir 20GB is more than plenty
[04:02] <Joshooa> Hey is Beryl Linux only? I thought I read somewhere it could make XP 3d but I can't find anything now that I Google it.
[04:02] <Pelo> noob,  it only takes  30 minutes to install,  mind you the dl is another thing
[04:02] <wols> thomax: two partitions: / and /fileserver
[04:02] <wols> nojthing else
[04:02] <wols> make it say 20GB or /
[04:02] <[Thom] > wols: Swap
[04:02] <dfwlinuxguy> it also depends on if you are using it as a mailserver and if you are using /var/mail or Maildir
[04:02] <wols> for /
[04:02] <mwe> Joshooa it wont work in windows
[04:02] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy:Not a mailserver
[04:02] <wols> [Thom] : you don't need it but if you insist: 512MB swap
[04:02] <Pelo> Joshooa, that is the first thing I heard of beryl on windows,  try asking in #beryl they might know (but expect a chuckle at the very least)
[04:03] <Joshooa> mwe: Oh, do you know of a 3d desktop I can run in Windows XP, my roommates are really jealous of Ubuntu now.
[04:03] <dfwlinuxguy> then 4G is plenty for the logs - sometimes on a small drive I will make it 2G
[04:03] <wols> [Thom] : make the partitions ext3 so you can easily resize when need arises
[04:03] <noob> 10 min download,
[04:03] <wols> Joshooa: #windows
[04:03] <[Thom] > wols: I was going to make them RAID1
[04:03] <Joshooa> Pelo: I don't know where I read it, but I SWEAR I saw somethings somewhere, I don't care too much I don't use Windows but they do.
[04:03] <wols> [Thom] : software raid I hope?
[04:03] <dfwlinuxguy> {thom} raid 1 is good
[04:03] <[Thom] > wols Yes
[04:03] <noob> then I can play flash
[04:03] <wols> [Thom] : what raid controller?
[04:03] <Pelo> Joshooa, get them to switch
[04:04] <noob> but what a waste of power
[04:04] <dfwlinuxguy> use software raid
[04:04] <[Thom] > wols: Software
[04:04] <wols> [Thom] : with 20GB / you still have 230GB for fileserver
[04:04] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: Yeah, the drives are SCSI and already in the system
[04:04] <mwe> dfwlinuxguy he's setting up a file server. assigning most of the disk to /home doesn't make sense
[04:04] <caravel> Joshooa: get them to run windows within a virtual machine under ubuntu :) that way theyll get the whole desktop to wave at once, lol
[04:04] <Joshooa> Pelo My Roommates? They would except they play Doom 3 and Microsoft Flight Simulator, so if I can't get those to run well in Ubuntu they wont do it.
[04:04] <noob> when will everyone go over to 64 bit?
[04:04] <wols> thomax: 250GB scsi? pricy
[04:05] <Joshooa> caravel: How is that performance wise? I can't get even Pocket Tanks Deluxe to run well, or with sound.
[04:05] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: are you talking about servers? because 2G of logs for a home system seems rather exorbitant. I let cron just delete my logs by the time one has been moved to #6 or so
[04:05] <Pelo> Joshooa, tell them they are lame and that all the cool kids are using ubuntu now
[04:05] <dfwlinuxguy> {thom]  home for me is where all the mail, files and websites are so it only make sense to make it the largest
[04:05] <Joshooa> Pelo; I do, I do
[04:05] <wols> noob: ubuntu is long gone over to it. it's the crappy proprietary software vendors who aren't
[04:05] <[Thom] > wols: Yep.
[04:05] <Pelo> Joshooa,  tell them the first one is free,  and so is the second and the third ...
[04:05] <Joshooa> Pelo At work, everywhere I go, Windows sucks, Microsoft sucks, switch to Ubuntu, although Microsoft's Surface is cool.
[04:05] <wols> noob: as long as you can stay with purely Free software all is peachy. one closed source clusterfsck: trouble
[04:06] <mwe> dfwlinuxguy It's very non-standard to create a file server in your homedir
[04:06] <noob> kind of noticed it
[04:06] <caravel> Joshooa: ++ 2Gb ram && double cpu
[04:06] <rococo> Joshooa: I would totally spill my coffee all over Microsoft surface within a day of getting it.
[04:06] <noob> flash, dvd, but ati seems to be working, or maybe not
[04:06] <wols> noob: so it's not the linux community which holds back 64bitness
[04:06] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> question:  What exactly is a "buffer i/o error"
[04:06] <dfwlinuxguy> [rococo]  2G is nothing...unless you have an old small drive.. could make it smaller if you are tight on space
[04:06] <Joshooa> caravel: I can get the 2GB but double cpu I can't, especially on two other computers
[04:07] <dfwlinuxguy> {mwe} sorry...not being rude but according to who?
[04:07] <[Thom] > wols: So I partition / @ 20G, Swap @ 250M and fileserver @ remainder and pick RAID as the partition type for / and /fileserver, correct?
[04:07] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: it's not the cost, it's just... that's a lot of text that I'm probably never going to read ;-)
[04:07] <Joshooa> rococo: I think it's water proof, they showed using it as a table, and they put a drink on it, and it asked if they were getting thirsty?
[04:07] <wols> thomax: yes
[04:07] <Joshooa> rococo: Or at a restaurant, so, I don't know if coffee would matter.  Couldn't be good though.
[04:07] <dfwlinuxguy> [rococo]  home system - yes / server - no
[04:08] <dfwlinuxguy> [rococo]  you're right
[04:08] <cerealkiller219> is there a guide to configure sound cards?
[04:08] <kadaz> I installed ubuntu with onboard vga, and once in ubuntu I enabled the nvidia card and rebooted. Then on boot up, I got a Xservice error message saying its disabled. I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and set it to nvidia. I rebooted and still doesnt work.
[04:08] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: oops, that's what I meant. It's exorbitant UNLESS you're talking about servers
[04:08] <cerealkiller219> i have no sound on my 7.04
[04:08] <Pelo> !sound | cerealkiller219
[04:08] <ubotu> cerealkiller219: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:08] <caravel> Joshooa: don`t know, wait for kde on windows... that's a troll :)
[04:08] <wols> !nvidia | kadaz
[04:08] <ubotu> kadaz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:09] <clearzen> kadaz: Have you ran sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx?
[04:09] <dfwlinuxguy> [rococo]  on my home system I have a swap and the rest is 1 big partition
[04:09] <Joshooa> caravel: Never heard of that, but I use Gnome anyway
[04:09] <greg_g> So, I know I am not the only person to have kde and gnome installed.  Does anyone know of a way to have KDE apps separated out of the main menu in gnome, and gnome apps separated out in the main menu in kde???
[04:09] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> anyone care to take a stab at what a "buffer i/o error" is?
[04:09] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g...yes one second
[04:10] <wols> Oni-Dracula|lapp: full error and what lead to that error
[04:10] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: I made /home separate to make reinstalling easier, or if I ever want to add another distro and don't want to file-juggle
[04:10] <caravel> Joshooa: "once upon a time in the West(ern Germany), there were a Trolltech announcement
[04:10] <mneptok> greg_g: use each DE's menu customization tools
[04:10] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g...http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31031
[04:10] <kadaz>  clearzen - no
[04:10] <kadaz> what does it do?
[04:10] <greg_g> dfwlinuxguy: *looks*
[04:10] <wols> greg_g: menu.
[04:10] <wols> !info menu
[04:11] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> wols, it's during installation... and the error is basically "buffer i/o error on hdc1 in block x"
[04:11] <mneptok> kadaz: what version of Ubuntu are you runnuing?
[04:11] <ubotu> menu: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.32 (feisty), package size 397 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[04:11] <clearzen> kadaz: That will install the binary driver for nvidia cards
[04:11] <wols> Oni-Dracula|lapp: ther is a syslog entry. what is it?
[04:11] <clearzen> kadaz: If you have all the proper repoes enabled
[04:11] <kadaz> repoes?
[04:11] <mneptok> kadaz: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:11] <dfwlinuxguy> [rococo]  good idea. I back my stuff up on an external drive and the only time I re-install is when I'm looking to get rid of all the extra cruft and I only copy over the relavant stuff
[04:11] <greg_g> dfwlinuxguy: that was it!  I saw that package before, but I couldn't remember where.  I had no idea how to find it again.  Keep trying google for "gnome kde menu separate" and similar, no luck
[04:11] <greg_g> thank you so much
[04:12] <kadaz> latest
[04:12] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g no prob
[04:12] <clearzen> kadaz: repositories....it is different places where apt looks for software to install basically
[04:12] <mneptok> kadaz: System -> Adimin -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[04:12] <mneptok> *Admin
[04:13] <clearzen> kadaz: Or you can do that with feisty
[04:13] <mwe> Pelo did you make up your mind?
[04:13] <mneptok> kadaz: enable the restricted driver for the nVidia card
[04:13] <Pelo> mwe, my mind about what ?
[04:13] <mwe> Pelo nm
[04:13] <mistone> I have windows 98 if  I get wubi will it dual boot ?
[04:14] <mwe> Pelo I meant to ask someone else but he seems to have left ... nick confusion
[04:14] <Pelo> what the heck is wubi ?
[04:14] <wols> mistone: what is wubi?
[04:14] <Pelo> mwe, ah I see,  better luck next time
[04:14] <openmindDJ> Can anyone help getting my Back UPS 350 ES working in Feisty?  I can pastebin the error that I'm receiving. I have a feeling that i need to run a script file in order to resolve the problem : Pastebin = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23536/
[04:14] <cables> Pelo, it lets you install Ubuntu from within Windows with an EXE
[04:14] <wols> mistone: simnply install debian and it will dual boot
[04:14] <cables> wols ^^
[04:14] <gpled> i put in a new vid card. now x window does not work. what command do i need to run to get things working?
[04:15] <wols> gpled: suod dpkg-reconfigure xservre-xorg
[04:15] <dfwlinuxguy> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:15] <kadaz> mneptok - I already done that. and when I did, it froze on startup.
[04:15] <wols> gpled: what video card is it?
[04:15] <greg_g> dfwlinuxguy: just installed, that did exactly what I was hoping it was going to do.  You saved me MUCH time manually editing the menus in both DE.
[04:15] <mneptok> wols: is there a reason you're recommending Debian in the Ubuntu channel? :)
[04:16] <wols> mneptok: typo. sorry
[04:16] <wols> mistone: install ubuntu and it will dualboot
[04:16] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g ...yes it is very helpful...i found a way to omit the kde items from gnome if you are interested
[04:16] <wols> mneptok: time fo me to rest my eyes
[04:16] <kadaz> I have a gf5200 fx
[04:16] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g ...it doesn't put them in a nice kde menu though
[04:16] <Pelo> mneptok, if another distro is better suited to someone's need there is no reason for us not to recommend it, we are all one big happy linux family, united against windows
[04:17] <[Thom] > wols: If I am using a software RAID do I still specify the swap partitions as 'swap'  or do I specify them as 'raid' ?
[04:17] <mneptok> kadaz: did you let the restricted manager download everything it needed?
[04:17] <greg_g> dfwlinuxguy: the package does not put the kde apps in separate menus in gnome?  (just making sure I understood you correctly)
[04:17] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g ... this is a good article http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,132030-c,linux/article.html
[04:17] <mneptok> [Thom] : why not use LVM?
[04:18] <[Thom] > mneptok: Seemed a little complicated for what I want to do.
[04:18] <[Thom] > mneptok: Is that not the case?
[04:18] <mneptok> [Thom] : no more so than software RAID
[04:18] <kadaz> it downloaded the drivers and then asked to restart, I restarted, changed the default vid card setting in the bios and booted into ubuntu, but still froze. I then used the xserver reconfigeration and froze again
[04:18] <mneptok> [Thom] : just be sure to keep /boot out of LVM space
[04:18] <[Thom] > mneptok: I mean it's yet another layer of abstraction
[04:19] <mneptok> [Thom] : so is software RAID
[04:19] <[Thom] > mneptok: Don't you use software RAID on top of LVM?
[04:19] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g ... having trouble locating that...it removes kde entries from gnome
[04:19] <mneptok> [Thom] : no
[04:19] <dfwlinuxguy> brb
[04:19] <[Thom] > mneptok: So how do you specify your partitions then?
[04:20] <[Thom] > mneptok: With software raid Ihave 2 drives that I am supposed to partition IDENTICAL to one another.
[04:20] <mneptok> [Thom] : you create a volume group, the carve up the space inside it.
[04:20] <mneptok> *then
[04:20] <[Thom] > mneptok: Do I get redundancy with LVM?
[04:20] <mneptok> [Thom] : oh, so you want mirroring, not spanning
[04:20] <[Thom] > Yeah
[04:21] <flake> through the terminal, can I pop-up a hidden Panel?  if so, how
[04:21] <host_> !wine
[04:21] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:21] <[Thom] > mneptok: So do you know if I should specify my swap partitions as swap or raid?
[04:21] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g ... found it ....http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77729
[04:22] <mneptok> [Thom] : /boot and /swap should not be part of a software RAID array
[04:22] <dfwlinuxguy> [thom]  make swap a part of raid
[04:22] <greg_g> dfwlinuxguy: *looks*
[04:22] <kadaz> mneptok: I installed ubuntu using the internal vga. worked great, then I enabled the drivers for nvidia, then ubuntu downloaded drivers and ask for a restart. I restarted, changed default vid in bios, then booted up and froze. So I booted back up using the internal vga and got an error message saying the Xserver has been disabled. I tried " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " and set it to nvidia. I rebooted, set bios nvidia card, then b
[04:22] <[Thom] > mneptok: Why not /boot?
[04:22] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...that's not what i've read
[04:23] <mneptok> [Thom] : what happens when the kernel wants to boot *before* the RAID kernel modules load? ;)
[04:24] <Xorlev> mnptok: Initrd, compile in.
[04:24] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...I've configured multiple machines and put swap and / (no separate /boot) in raid 1 and it does not cause a problem
[04:24] <mneptok> Xorlev: that's not something i want to do with every kernel update
[04:24] <greg_g> dfwlinuxguy: thanks a lot man, you are the helper of the day for me ;)
[04:24] <Xorlev> I build my own, so having /boot as a Software RAID 1 array works fine.
[04:25] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g...glad I could help =0)
[04:25] <mneptok> !works for me > dfwlinuxguy
[04:25] <Tru7h> I have another problem
[04:26] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...if you know something I don't I'd love to hear it
[04:26] <Vash> hnn... Ive got an odd problem I cant seem to figure out. Ive got an IDE card with 4 drives plugged into it and a sata drive plugged straight to mobo. I tried installing Ubuntu Ult. Gamers Ed. onto sata, but I always get error 17 cant mount selected partition (I think) when I trie to boot after install. Anyone know how to fix? o_O
[04:26] <Tru7h> When I run the installer from my Fiesty LiveCD, once I get to the keyboard layout window and hit next it gives me an error saying "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[04:26] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: /whois mneptok :)
[04:27] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: /boot in LVM or RAID space can be really dangerous. kernel updates can lead to the machine being unable to read /boot because it looks for /boot before LVM stuff has loaded
[04:28] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...I'm not saying that I do it so it's ok...I'm saying that I have specifically read that you should put /swap in raid 1..I don't make a separate /boot so I can't speak to that
[04:28] <host_> !ntfs
[04:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:28] <cwraig> hi all i am having trouble with distcc? * /etc/init.d/distcc: start failed with error code 1
[04:28] <cwraig>  anyone know what this means?
[04:28] <host_> !ntfs-3g
[04:28] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:28] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: why do you need to mirror swap space? i don't see the practical application.
[04:28] <host_> !fuse
[04:28] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:28] <dave132> how do i close a existing process in ubuntu?
[04:29] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...let me see if I can find that article..one sec
[04:29] <melchior7> Dave123, kill?
[04:30] <kadaz> clearzen, Iam going to try that
[04:30] <cwraig> where is the log file that will help me diagnose init.d start command faults
[04:30] <kadaz> in the recovery option
[04:30] <xkcd> Is IRC supposed to be cool?
[04:30] <dave132> melchior, firefox wont open because it says firefox is still running and i have to close it in order to be able to restart firefox
[04:30] <Vanax> So i got wow to open through wine, but when it comes up its lagggggggy and then freezes, anyone know how to fix it?
[04:30] <lockd> is there any way to add "kill this window" to the context menu in gnome window manager?
[04:30] <loco_aullador> hi i have an amd64 on ubuntu feisty and i'd like to know if i can install i386 pakages on my machine....i get an error when i try to install them....maybe theres a specific way to install them
[04:31] <melchior7> Dave123, run the command "killall firefox-bin"
[04:31] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23538/
[04:31] <majd> hey, i'm trying to install ubuntu, i get an error when it installs linux-generic..then it asks me to install that or the linux-image-generic? what should i do?
[04:31] <dave132> melchior, in the terminal?
[04:31] <melchior7> dave132 in the terminal, yes
[04:31] <Colossus> I'm having a serious problem with an Ubuntu install: every few minutes, it freezes up for a few seconds. The terminal says "cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0" ...
[04:31] <majd> it's asking which kernel to install
[04:32] <dave132> ok thanks
[04:32] <Vash> Ner.
[04:32] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[04:32] <Tru7h> When I run the installer from my Fiesty LiveCD, once I get to the keyboard layout window and hit next it gives me an error saying "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[04:32] <Tru7h> How do I fix that?
[04:32] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: if a drive *without* swap dies it can take the system down. their argument is circular.
[04:32] <melchior7> Dave123, or, go to System->Administration->System Monitor->Process and find firefox-bin and kill it
[04:32] <jshriver> hi
[04:32] <Tru7h> And if everyone was talking to me I already installed NTFS-3g
[04:33] <jshriver> How do you setup ssh keys so you can put the pub key on another box for remote access?
[04:33] <Vash> Im trying to install Ubuntu, and it installs fine, apparently, but every time I boot, I get Error 17 Cannot Mount selected partition. Any ideas on how to fix?
[04:33] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...I really want to know. Everything I've read puts swap into the raid array
[04:33] <Rodel> how do i install devpackages
[04:34] <dfwlinuxguy> jshriver  ssh-keygen -t rsa
[04:34] <jshriver> apt-get install package-dev
[04:34] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: I'm getting "No root files system is defined"  ?
[04:34] <host_> dang, making ntfs writable with Fiesty is so much easier than before
[04:34] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: their argument is that if sawp is outside RAID, and the physical device dies, it can take the system down. with software RAID, if a drive dies, it may *still* take the system down whether swap is on it or not.
[04:34] <majd> when installing ubuntu, it's asking which kernel to install. Choosing linux-generic doesnt work, can i choose linux-image-generic?
[04:34] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom}...sorry..where are we at?
[04:35] <jshriver> dfwlinuxguy, thanks
[04:35] <dave132> melchior7, thanks hat worked:)
[04:35] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...but if there is info in swap that hasn't been written to disk you will lose it right?
[04:35] <melchior7> dave132, np
[04:35] <Tru7h> When I run the installer from my Fiesty LiveCD, once I get to the keyboard layout window and hit next it gives me an error saying "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[04:35] <Tru7h> And if everyone was talking to me I already installed NTFS-3g
[04:36] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: that's no different than having swap in the RAID array and losing software RAID
[04:36] <flake> is it safe or possible to write to ntfs disks now?
[04:36] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: *hardware* RAID is another story
[04:36] <majd> when installing ubuntu, it's asking which kernel to install. Choosing linux-generic doesnt work
[04:37] <Harley_Dog> anyone setup netatalk on dapper  - any step by step configs??
[04:37] <mneptok> !info netatalk
[04:37] <ubotu> netatalk: AppleTalk user binaries. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.3-5 (feisty), package size 693 kB, installed size 1932 kB
[04:37] <melchior7> flake: not really
[04:38] <Vash> Im trying to install Ubuntu, and it installs fine, apparently, but every time I boot, I get Error 17 Cannot Mount selected partition. Any ideas on how to fix?
[04:38] <melchior7> flake, do you want a windows and  a linux install to share a disk?
[04:38] <jamster545> can anyone help me get Ubuntu to show up in Solaris GRUB/
[04:38] <majd> when installing ubuntu, it's asking which kernel to install. Choosing linux-generic doesnt work
[04:38] <majd> i'm doing this on fiesty
[04:39] <flake> linux install, to use an old harddrive as a fileserver
[04:39] <melchior7> why's the disk have to be NTFS?
[04:39] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...sorry to be so dense..I've had a drive fail and the system has kept on rockin until I was able to replace the failed drive...if the drive fails (probably not common) while there is info in swap and the drive is not raid, I would think you would lose that info
[04:39] <pc_> Request help, I install ubuntu and now when I start x it say something about couldn't initiate font path /etc/X11/something should be 1 is 2 fixing can someone help?
[04:39] <flake> I have stuff on there I haven't backed up, don't know if I'll ever use it again.. too lazy to reformat  :/
[04:40] <flake> course lazy can be spensive
[04:40] <melchior7> flake, yea; reading works fine, writing is unsafe especially for unbacked-up data
[04:40] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: So what's the verdict on having /boot inside raid?
[04:40] <flake> ok, ty
[04:40] <Lightrunner> hello
[04:40] <sivik> !avi
[04:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:40] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...if there is a technical reason not to do it I want to know so I can stop doing it that way
[04:40] <pc_> !ubuntu
[04:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <pc_> !ubuntu-server
[04:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[04:41] <sivik> is ati a restrictedformat?
[04:41] <Lightrunner> can someone tell me how I can upgrade from Firefox 2.0.0.3 to 2.0.0.4 using "apt-get" ?
[04:41] <sivik> apt-get upgrade
[04:41] <Lightrunner> I tried that
[04:41] <melchior7> use synaptic
[04:41] <sivik> Lightrunner, it might not be avalible in the repos yet
[04:41] <kbrosnan> Lightrunner: wait for ubuntu to release a 2.0.0.4 there is a bit of lag between
[04:41] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom}...are you installing a new machine or installing from scratch?....I never create a separate /boot and I always put my / in raid
[04:42] <majd> what happens if i install linux w/o linux-generic?
[04:42] <MISTERTibbs> lightrunner -- use the firefox "check for upgrades command"  for best results
[04:42] <kbrosnan> Lightrunner: ubuntu and mozilla releases
[04:42] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: This is an old windows box I'm repurposing as a linux server
[04:42] <Lightrunner> okay, thanks for the infor
[04:42] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom}...mneptok sounds like he may have info I don't have
[04:43] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom]  he says just because I can doesn't mean I should, but I really want to know why I shouldn't
[04:43] <lockd> Lightrunner: if you want very efficient firefox performance you can always go for 3.x alphas
[04:43] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: if you keep /boot outside of raid, and you lose that drive, then your system will not boot, right?
[04:43] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: Isn't that the point of redundancy?
[04:43] <flake> usually jamster545, if people don't know the answer or have little experience, they are less likely to answer to help cut down on the 'spam'. plus yelling can get you ignored too.
[04:44] <kbrosnan> MISTERTibbs: ubuntu disables the Firefox check for updates on thier builds
[04:44] <jamster545> no they dont even acknowledge it unless i yell... then i get an answer that usually helps
[04:44] <matthew1429> how do i know if i have smbfs installed/
[04:44] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom]  if /boot is not raided, it will not be available on the non-failed drive and it will not boot without intervention
[04:45] <MISTERTibbs> kbrosnan_ shame on me!  I didn't know.  Sadly, I also don't know the work around.  wouldn't synaptic upgrade firefox for u??
[04:45] <lockd> kbrosnan: oh, you can't even do that?
[04:45] <Lightrunner> i tried synaptic
[04:45] <Tac_Work> hey guys... im on a ubuntu 5 live cd .... and trying to format my HD
[04:45] <Lightrunner> just installed 2.0.0.3 again
[04:45] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: Should I use standard, news, largefile or largefile64 on my partition with all the movies?
[04:45] <Tac_Work> does anyone have a link to a way to do it? ... i cannot seem to make it find the device
[04:45] <lockd> Lightrunner: MISTERTibbs: the only workaround is installing from sources or binary packages
[04:46] <jamster545> now will someone PLEASE give me an answer to my question... it is annoying to be ignored... it happens EVERY time i get on unless i yell... it is the worst on these OS support forums
[04:46] <kbrosnan> MISTERTibbs: as soon as Ubuntu releases a Firefox 2.0.0.4 package the updater will offer it to you
[04:46] <kbrosnan> but that has not happened yet
[04:46] <Lightrunner> how long till ubuntu releases 2.0.0.4?
[04:47] <lockd> what feature are you missing from .3?
[04:47] <tzadik> hi
[04:47] <tzadik> i'm having a hard time getting video to work in firefox
[04:47] <tzadik> i get sound only
[04:47] <tzadik> it's feisty
[04:47] <Vash> Im trying to install Ubuntu, and it installs fine, apparently, but every time I boot, I get Error 17 Cannot Mount selected partition. Any ideas on how to fix?
[04:47] <tzadik> i installed the fluendo codecs
[04:47] <sivik> i'm having issues with playing avi in ubuntu, what am i doing wrong, i have install the aviplay and it says it still down't work
[04:47] <tzadik> Vash: did you install it on a slave disk?
[04:48] <MISTERTibbs> vash: shared install w/windows??
[04:48] <Lightrunner> I'm not missing a feature. I was just trying to use the current version, but I didn't know that Ubuntu hadn't released it yet. I thought maybe system wasn't looking in all possible repositories.
[04:48] <tzadik> Vash: you should be sure to install it on the master disk
[04:48] <Vash> no. Sata is Master with no windows.
[04:48] <lockd> Lightrunner: if you want latest, apt-get install firefox-trunk firefox-trunk-gnome-support
[04:48] <EliasAmaral> can I use sound recorder to record a sound that is playing right now? (instead of a sound from an input device like a microphone)
[04:48] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom]  wow...I know standard, news is for a lot of little small files...I haven't heard of the other 2...that's a new one for me to look into. with large files you shouldn't need to worry about running out of inodes and you should be able to set it something larger than the standard 4096
[04:48] <EliasAmaral> I am looking for a software that does this
[04:48] <lockd> Lightrunner: but it's bleeding edge, and it installs over firefox 2.x i think
[04:49] <Lightrunner> ok I'll try that, lock
[04:49] <mneptok> Lightrunner: bad idea
[04:49] <lockd> Lightrunner: oh wait, it's another repository
[04:49] <Vash> is why it confuses me... i had standard ubuntu installed ages ago, but went back to windows. just got Ultimate Gamers Edition today and it doesnt want to install for some reason.
[04:49] <MISTERTibbs> good luck light
[04:49] <kbrosnan> Lightrunner: you probably don't want to do that the trunk is still alpha code
[04:49] <jamster545> OK... I AM ASKING MY QUESTION AND I REAAALY HOPE TO GET AN ANSWER... flake or someone please just give me an answer so i can move on... how do i get Kubuntu/Ubuntu to appear in the Solaris GRUB? dont tell me to go to #solaris because they wont help me and are mean
[04:49] <mneptok> Lightrunner: fx-trunk is not for users that want a browser that works
[04:49] <Vash> is it somehow a boot problem?
[04:49] <tzadik> what could it be if i have sound but no video when playing videos in firefox
[04:49] <lockd> kbrosnan: Lightrunner: i forgot it installs over /usr instead of /usr/local
[04:49] <Lightrunner> ok
[04:50] <lockd> I run trunk build and it seems to work fine
[04:50] <Lightrunner> I'll omit that one
[04:50] <tzadik> i can't even find a place in firefox to see what plugins I have
[04:50] <flake> jamster545  there is a #grub irc as well
[04:50] <jamster545> there is?
[04:50] <jamster545> can anyone here help tho?
[04:50] <flake> 29 people in it
[04:50] <mneptok> lockd: that's good for you. it's no guarantee that it will work for others. ;)
[04:50] <flake> don't know
[04:50] <flake> did you try to install linux
[04:50] <jamster545> flake, is your nick registered?
[04:50] <MISTERTibbs> vash: sounds like MBR problem.  I've had it.  here's how I fixed:
[04:50] <jamster545> it is installed
[04:50] <flake> no, i need to register it
[04:50] <kbrosnan> lockd: so do I but recommending it to random people is not a good practice because they are likely to get burnt
[04:51] <flake> is it solaris grub or just grub
[04:51] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...I hope i haven't sounded dismissive, if you know something I don't I'd love to hear what you know
[04:51] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, calm down, you can't just demant an answer. (for your problem: probably it's just a matter of changing a config file, probably in /boot. in ubuntu, this config file is named /boot/grub/menu.lst. check solaris documentation)
[04:51] <jamster545> solaris grub... i know you need to install solaris after linux
[04:51] <Soth> Quick question.  I see that (apparently) .deb files apt downloads are in /var/cache/apt/archives.  Is it safe to manually delete these to free up space or is there some other preferred method for cleaning those archives up?
[04:51] <MISTERTibbs> Clean Install windows WITH  A PARTITION FOR THE BOOT RECORD!  Small partition: about 15 MB.
[04:51] <MISTERTibbs> Install windows on next partiion and ubuntu on 3rd partition.
[04:51] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: i just see no reason for the RAID overhead to preserve what is by definition transitory data
[04:51] <pmayer> can anybody remind me how to reformat my hard drive to NTFS? I can't remember.
[04:51] <dfwlinuxguy> apt-get autoremove
[04:51] <Soth> thanks
[04:51] <dfwlinuxguy> apt-get autoclean
[04:51] <MISTERTibbs> no problems since
[04:51] <rococo> Soth: sudo apt-get clean and/or sudo apt-get autoclean
[04:52] <jamster545> flake it is solaris grub
[04:52] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, one quick solution is, instead, adding solaris to ubuntu's grub. and then, install it with sudo grub-install /dev/your_hd_here
[04:52] <lockd> kbrosnan: installing from cvs is fine - it defaults to a local install
[04:52] <lockd> kbrosnan: i shouldn't have recommended the package though
[04:52] <Vanax> Can anybody help me with running wow?
[04:52] <Vash> Mistertibbs: Danke. I shall try your suggestion.
[04:52] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...thanks
[04:52] <jamster545> how do i add solaris to Ubuntu GRUB?
[04:53] <jamster545> EliasAmaral how do i put solaris into Ubuntu GRUB?
[04:53] <lockd> Vanax: you will very likely have to run it in an emulator
[04:53] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, edit /etc/grub/menu.lst as root
[04:53] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, like, sudo gedit /etc/grub/menu.lst
[04:53] <jamster545> in Terminal? ok
[04:53] <EliasAmaral> oops, not /etc, /boot instead
[04:53] <Vanax> lockd: i've got the wine thing downloaded and everything and when wow opens, it shows the loggin all crappy, then just freezes
[04:53] <kbrosnan> lockd: i am not so worried about the install point as his profile, as the current trunk can over write bookmarks if you mix it with Firefox 2
[04:54] <Tru7h> Okay this is really stupid
[04:54] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, you need to put lines like the ones already existent for other ubuntu entires. but these after the ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST comment
[04:54] <annihilus> does anyone know of a media player that is able to possibly fix buttons (play, next, last, etc) to a panel?
[04:54] <Tru7h> but how do I navigate to a folder on the terminal?
[04:54] <flake> Tru7h  cd \
[04:54] <Tru7h> ooo
[04:54] <Tru7h> I was tyring to use /
[04:54] <Tru7h> xD
[04:54] <lockd> Vanax: well, Wine Is Not an Emulator - it may be possible to get it to work, but I have not been able to
[04:54] <Pelo> jamster545, bookmark this , you'll need it http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[04:55] <matthew1429> has anyone successfully gotten samba to work with vista?
[04:55] <rococo> Tru7h: cd /complete/path/to/folder for full path, or cd folder if you're gong from a current folder to a sub-folder (you can see current folder with the "pwd" command)
[04:55] <flake> you can also type out the first three or four letters in a terminal and hit the TAB key - it is like autocomplete
[04:55] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, there is some comments there to explain, but you need a line with title Solaris, another line with root (hdN,M) with the partition (in grub naming scheme) and some line to kernel (and maybe initrd too), and finally boot
[04:55] <Vanax> lockd: what would u reccommend me getting to run it?
[04:55] <andre_pl> Vanax, a friend of mine runs it under wine wiht no problems
[04:55] <matthew1429> i.e. getting vista to connect to a samba share?
[04:55] <flake> I see that windozes does that too in terminal
[04:55] <andre_pl> I think he installs it in windows first and just runs it from the windows partition using wine
[04:55] <Vanax> thats what i have
[04:55] <andre_pl> WoW's installation is pretty self-contained.
[04:55] <jamster545> EliasAmaral when i did the gedit command it said command not found
[04:56] <Vanax> i have it installed on the slave when i was running windows
[04:56] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, maybe kate, then?
[04:56] <EliasAmaral> gedit is for ubuntu. one equivalent in kubuntu is kate
[04:56] <andre_pl> Vanax, do you have wine?
[04:56] <Vanax> Yesm.
[04:56] <rococo> jamster545: the (hdN,M) in what EliasAmaral, you need to replace N with the hard drive number, and M with the partition number of your Solaris install. If you only have one HD, N is 0, and N is also 0 if Solaris is the master drive
[04:56] <jamster545> i am in Konsole (terminal) Kate is the Text Editor
[04:56] <andre_pl> Doesn't work?
[04:56] <Vanax> Nope
[04:57] <lockd> Vanax: emulating with qemu, but you will probably need a commercial emulator like vmware
[04:57] <alakalaka99> hello
[04:57] <adelie> how do you move a window to a different workspace in beryl?
[04:57] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, so you need to open other kate instance, because you need to edit the config file as root
[04:57] <andre_pl> I've seen it run under a default wine config
[04:57] <lockd> Vanax: along with an entire windows installation
[04:57] <alakalaka99> drag the window adelie
[04:57] <Tru7h> I'm getting an error when I try and use Wine
[04:57] <jamster545> what and how would i use kate for like that??? kate is just like notepad on windows...
[04:58] <Tru7h> I'm trying to run Xfire.exe to install it
[04:58] <Tru7h> and I get this error
[04:58] <matthew1429> is anyone familiar with gsambad?
[04:58] <Tru7h> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/Xfireexe$ wine Xfire.exe
[04:58] <Tru7h> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/ubuntu/.wine'...
[04:58] <Tru7h> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:58] <Tru7h> wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/ubuntu/.wine'.
[04:58] <matthew1429> I'm trying to get vista to work with ubuntu
[04:58] <flake> kate is better than notepad, it kicks its butt
[04:58] <andre_pl> Vanax, did you look here: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5606
[04:58] <lockd> andre_pl: regardless, I've never been able to get WoW to run under wine, even when many other games do
[04:58] <dr_willis> flake,  a sharp stick in the eye is better then notepad :)
[04:58] <jamster545> flake, how would i use kate to edit the file though?
[04:58] <lockd> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[04:59] <flake> sudo kate from a terminal
[04:59] <rococo> I know people who have gotten WoW working under wine, but apparently most people have better like with Cedega (even the free version)
[04:59] <jamster545> oh
[04:59] <lockd> is there any way to stop that?
[04:59] <dr_willis> lockd,  Try the 'apt-get -f install'
[04:59] <rococo> lockd: yeah, try "sudo apt-get -f install" ;-)
[04:59] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, you need to open the file with the editor running inside sudo, heh
[05:00] <dr_willis> with a sudo of course..
[05:00] <adelie> ha ha ha, thank you. I knew it had to be easy
[05:00] <Pelo> Tru7h, first you need to provide wine with the path to xfire   so    the command should be  wine /path/xfire.exe , second the rest seems to be a wine error,   reinstal wine , then run winecfg to make sure wine creates its own file structures. then try again from the command line to check that xfie will run
[05:00] <jamster545> ummm... i dont think it worked
[05:00] <majyk> are the Ubuntu devs aware that the shade mode for windows doesn't work correctly with desktop effects enabled?
[05:00] <HardDisk> good morning everyone, I'm just going to have a quick breakfast and be with you shortly.
[05:00] <lockd> rococo: tried this
[05:00] <rococo> lockd: and?
[05:00] <Tru7h> Pelo: It's in the correct directory. I cd'd to it
[05:00] <lockd> rococo: still gives said error message
[05:01] <zman__> hi there
[05:01] <jamster545> kate keeps crashing itself
[05:01] <lockd> rococo: and? nothing more.. is there some other command I can use to clear that cache?
[05:01] <rococo> lockd: try an autoclean
[05:01] <dr_willis> !aptfix
[05:01] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[05:01] <Tru7h> Pelo: Or do I need to give it the full path anyway even though I'm in the same directory?
[05:01] <rococo> lockd: and THEN apt-get install -f
[05:01] <moonbaby> hello, I am trying to quickly backup a home directory to DVD-R, but am running into problems with file permissions (no write access) can I run gnome-baker as root (is this a good idea?  will it solve the problem?) if no, is there a fast way to to change permissions for an entire bracnch of directory tree?
[05:01] <GMWeezel> Is using screen the only way to detach a program from a terminal session?
[05:02] <lockd> rococo: i had to remove the package, didn't know there was autoclean
[05:02] <dr_willis> GMWeezel,  depends on exactly what you are wanting to do.
[05:02] <lockd> rococo: thanks, for future reference
[05:02] <dr_willis> GMWeezel,  screen is very handy., theres the 'nohup' method as well.
[05:02] <Pelo> Tru7h, the full path can'T hurt,  but like i said the rest sounds like a wine issue,  try reinstlling it and if that doesn't work ask in #winehq,  also check the application database in the www.winehq.org website to see if anywone had issues running that prog
[05:02] <Vanax> andre_pl: idk what i'm supposed to be looking at, it tells me it should work, yet it doesnt
[05:02] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, @.@
[05:02] <rococo> lockd: sure. there's also autoremove to take care of dependencies for packages that are no longer around
[05:03] <Tru7h> Okay, thanks
[05:03] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, so sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst don't work? try pico, or vim, or emacs
[05:03] <jamster545> i dont have any of those
[05:03] <jamster545> it just wont work
[05:03] <EliasAmaral> pico you have :)
[05:03] <jamster545> how get do i?
[05:03] <EliasAmaral> sudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:03] <peepsalot> jamster545, try nano
[05:03] <EliasAmaral> well, i meant nano
[05:04] <jamster545> sudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:04] <jamster545> oops
[05:04] <rococo> actually, it's the same thing. if you run pico as a command in Ubuntu, it runs nano
[05:04] <jamster545> i got my computers confused
[05:04] <jamster545> i am running two different comps at once
[05:05] <rococo> "pico" is a symlink to nano
[05:05] <jamster545> ooh! I think it worked
[05:05] <Pelo> sigh...
[05:06] <Vanax> So,
[05:06] <rococo> well, my eyes are no broken
[05:06] <Vanax> Anyone for helping a semi-linux noob with getting wow to work?
[05:06] <Vanax> lol
[05:07] <Vanax> wtb ppl not spamming
[05:07] <Pelo> Vanax,  you might have better luck asking in #winehq
[05:07] <Vanax> thank u
[05:07] <KidMan> What is the Linux equivalent for Nero?
[05:07] <Pelo> Vanax, not spam ,  network splits,  there is some maintenance being done one hte servers
[05:07] <jamster545> okay sorry i got disconnected
[05:07] <drarem> Vanax - or search in the ubuntu forums
[05:07] <drarem> I get better hits in there
[05:07] <Pelo> KidMan, gnomebaker k3b
[05:07] <dr_willis> KidMan,  i perfer k3b
[05:08] <jamster545> it opened pico and shows the file name but there is nothing there to edit
[05:08] <harry_> ssh uses port 22, right?
[05:08] <KidMan> Thank you Pelo and dr_willis.
[05:08] <melchior7> harry_, yea
[05:08] <melchior7> by default
[05:08] <Tom47> kidman are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:08] <rococo> Vanax: I haven't done it myself, but I just asked someone I know who did what guides he used. I shall link thee! http://www.pronetit.com/2007/04/20/howto-install-world-of-warcraft-in-ubuntu-fiesty-fawn/
[05:09] <harry_> melchior7: does anything else (common) use it?
[05:09] <rococo> harry_: nope
[05:09] <melchior7> harry_, nope, at least not in the Unix/linux world
[05:09] <Tru7h> When I run the installer from my Fiesty LiveCD, once I get to the keyboard layout window and hit next it gives me an error saying "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[05:09] <Tru7h> How do I fix that?
[05:09] <KidMan> Tom47, Ubuntu.
[05:09] <Vanax> Is there a way to not have to install it again?, i have it installed to my slave drive from when i was running windows.
[05:10] <Tom47> kidman in that case most of your burning can be undertaken by nautilus
[05:10] <jamster545> there are no words to edit in the menu.lst file
[05:10] <rococo> Vanax: hm.... usually when a windows program is already on a windows partition, that makes running it with wine much easier
[05:10] <dr_willis> jamster545,  i would bet on a Typo on your part then on the command line.
[05:11] <rococo> Vanax: first thing's first, do you have wine installed?
[05:11] <Vanax> Yep
[05:11] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, you need to add lines. i described briefly the lines in an early message
[05:11] <jamster545> no i tried it twice dr_willis
[05:11] <str4> sup
[05:11] <harry_> melchior7: do you know if Windows uses it for anything? i.e. if I portmap port 22 from the router to my computer, will my parent's windows box be affected?
[05:11] <rococo> Vanax: I'd run winecfg and make sure it knows to act like XP
[05:11] <jamster545> how do i do it then??? EliasAmaral?
[05:11] <melchior7> harry_, windows by default doesn't
[05:11] <str4> don't know
[05:11] <Vanax> ><
[05:11] <dr_willis> jamster545,   try  cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:11] <Vanax> it was on windows 2k
[05:12] <harry_> melchior7: thanks.
[05:12] <rococo> Vanax: once that's done, you MIGHT be lucky enough to just run "wine /path/to/wow.exe"
[05:12] <rococo> Vanax: then 2k - that is also an option
[05:12] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, well, if you have your file opened, it's just a matter of put them in the end of file
[05:12] <rococo> Vanax: might help to make sure your windows partition isn't set to read-only first, though
[05:12] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, a line beginning with the title word, a line beginning with root word, etc
[05:12] <Tru7h> When I run the installer from my Fiesty LiveCD, once I get to the keyboard layout window and hit next it gives me an error saying "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[05:12] <Tru7h> How do I fix that?
[05:12] <jamster545> wtf?
[05:12] <Pelo> jamster545, bookmark this , you'll need it http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[05:12] <jamster545> i dont know THAT much about computers
[05:12] <Vanax> how do i make sure its not read only?
[05:12] <jamster545> i am there Pelo
[05:13] <excalibas> hello, can someone help me to transfer some files from xubuntu to xp from network, i have been trying from tutorials but i am a bit confused
[05:13] <jamster545> open in terminal with sudo or udesu
[05:13] <nitro4ce> is the blue one a gnome theme? http://glade.gnome.org/graphics/devhelp.png
[05:13] <Pelo> jamster545, if you donT' know that much about computers can you tell me what you are doing installing solaris ?
[05:13] <jamster545> to develop java
[05:13] <dr_willis> excalibas,  easy way is use ssh and the winscp client.
[05:13] <jamster545> i know alot about computers... just not boot crap
[05:14] <PanzerMKZ> boot crap
[05:14] <PanzerMKZ> ?
[05:14] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas I'm willing to help..
[05:14] <jamster545> the stuff in the booting sequence
[05:14] <dr_willis> Thats the new Apple Booting tool isent it that lets yoyu boot windows. :)
[05:14] <jamster545> idk much about that stuff or any of the commands
[05:14] <excalibas> dr_willis: these are stuff i download with synaptic?
[05:14] <dr_willis> excalibas,  i think ya shoudl  ask about what exactly you are trying to do then....
[05:14] <PanzerMKZ> boot camp
[05:15] <PanzerMKZ> not boot crap
[05:15] <jamster545> BRB i am gonna look at that page from Pelo
[05:15] <dr_willis> PanzerMKZ,  :) apple is all crap to me. :P
[05:15] <dfwlinuxguy> apple is ok..it's better than windows
[05:15] <excalibas> ok, so i have 2 network cards in this computer (xubuntu) eth0 and eth2
[05:15] <PanzerMKZ> watch it
[05:15] <drarem> dont step in it and you won't have boot crap
[05:15] <PanzerMKZ> leave the OS bashing at the door
[05:15] <excalibas> eth2 is connecting to the internet
[05:15] <dr_willis> PanzerMKZ,  im more of a 'apple the company' basher.
[05:16] <Tru7h> When I run the installer from my Fiesty LiveCD, once I get to the keyboard layout window and hit next it gives me an error saying "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[05:16] <Tru7h> How do I fix that?
[05:16] <Tom47> boot glue, though sticky like fresh crap, its imporant early on with puters to know the difference betweeen them
[05:16] <scarter> is there a way to take a pressed cd of ubuntu and update it with all the new packages in order to create a up-to-date (at the time of creation) install cd?
[05:16] <excalibas> i want to use eth0 to connecto to my xp laptop so i can move some files (from xubunto to xp)
[05:17] <dfwlinuxguy> scarter... you might find this interesting http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=406081
[05:17] <PanzerMKZ> why not just use scp for the file transfer
[05:17] <excalibas> sould i have a static or dynamic ipo?
[05:17] <KidMan> How do you kill an "Uninterruptable" process
[05:17] <excalibas> ip
[05:17] <scarter> dfwlinuxguy:  thank you, checking now...
[05:17] <PanzerMKZ> the ip should not matter
[05:17] <crdlb> KidMan, you can't
[05:17] <dfwlinuxguy> panzermkz...because windows doesn't have have ssh server by default
[05:18] <buenas_werte> off couse using the wrong ip would matter
[05:18] <PanzerMKZ> you don't need scp server
[05:18] <PanzerMKZ> on the doze box
[05:18] <PanzerMKZ> for me I use pscp
[05:18] <excalibas>  is . ok?
[05:18] <PanzerMKZ> at the command line on the doze box
[05:18] <dfwlinuxguy> panzermkz..there is no "scp" server...scp is part of the openssh-server
[05:19] <dr_willis> winscp on the windows box.. can transfer to a linux box rather easially.
[05:19] <PanzerMKZ> I understand that
[05:19] <dr_willis> using the ssh server on the linux box.
[05:19] <dfwlinuxguy> that's like me saying you should use rsync
[05:19] <excalibas> is 192.168.0.2 ok?
[05:19] <PanzerMKZ> exactly
[05:19] <PanzerMKZ> dude start over
[05:19] <PanzerMKZ> and reread what I was saying
[05:19] <PanzerMKZ> you have ssh installed on the linux box
[05:19] <PanzerMKZ> you would use scp to transfer files
[05:19] <Tom47> scarter you might find all the necessary clues here although its a couple of releases back now ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[05:19] <buenas_werte> excalibaz its okay, having both in same subnet will make it easier
[05:20] <excalibas> ok, i wil install ssh
[05:20] <Tru7h> When I try to install Fiesty from the Live CD it gives me an error when I get to the keyboard layout part. The error is "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[05:20] <idefixx> dr_willis: use sshfs
[05:20] <Tru7h> What should I do?
[05:20] <dfwlinuxguy> panzermkz..you could use the putty tools to transfer the files from the linux box to windows...is that it?
[05:20] <PanzerMKZ> yea
[05:20] <PanzerMKZ> you could
[05:20] <scarter> Tom47: thank you, i'll check there too...
[05:20] <PanzerMKZ> to and from
[05:20] <kronus_> how do I roll a .deb when compiling something?
[05:20] <dr_willis> idefixx,  or any of a dozen other things. :)
[05:21] <dfwlinuxguy> panzermkz..sure
[05:21] <dfwlinuxguy> panzermkz..not a bad idea
[05:21] <pc_> request help when I type startx. it gives me something about couldn't initiate FreeFontPath, and shuts down X
[05:21] <Tom47> scarter from that last url this looks interesting ... http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[05:21] <EADG_> Tru7h: continue, what can it hurt?
[05:21] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ did you upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[05:21] <PanzerMKZ> what I have done on a windows box is put the pscp from the putty tools in the windows dir
[05:21] <mmm7> Hi...I can't seem to pipe the output of gnuplot to /dev/null with gnuplot somefile.gnu &> /dev/null, shouldn't this work?
[05:21] <idefixx> dr_willis: yep :)
[05:21] <Tru7h> EADG_: Okay, thanks. As long as it's safe :P
[05:21] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, no I am on edgy
[05:21] <PanzerMKZ> so that I can call it from any dir
[05:21] <scarter> Tom47, dfwlinuxguy: google was returning too many irrelevant results... maybe its my own searching technique... I'm reading both now.
[05:22] <rococo> Tru7h: copy /var/log/syslog from the liveCD, get it to another computer, and post the relevant parts via a pastebin so we can look at it here
[05:22] <rococo> Tru7h: that is, using the livecd, copy what's in /var/log/syslog on your computer
[05:22] <Tom47> scarter ... my google ... "ubuntu make your own livecd"
[05:22] <PanzerMKZ> would it not be better to use a alt cd?
[05:23] <PanzerMKZ> instead of live cd?
[05:23] <rococo> Tru7h: the return code isn't really enough information for us to nkow what's going wrong
[05:23] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, any suggestions
[05:23] <f4ramir> hi
[05:23] <scarter> Tom47: i guess i'm too old-school and just use key words... gotta get used to natural language searches ;)
[05:23] <sdf> hi how can i install mondrian-v1.0beta8 ?
[05:23] <sdf> please help
[05:23] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, lets say I did upgrade from edgy to feisty how would i fix it?
[05:23] <dfwlinuxguy> scarter.. the link I gave you relates to breezy to edgy...but it should work for edgy to feisty
[05:24] <Tarkus> hey, im trying to transfer 5GB of files to my laptop. i connected it to my router (my pc uses ubuntu, and the laptop uses vista).. i dont see the shared folders for my laptop in "Network".. any idea how i can transfer files to my laptop?
[05:24] <PanzerMKZ> Tarkus: SCP
[05:24] <PanzerMKZ> or ftp
[05:25] <sdf> please any one help
[05:25] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ my xorg shows the font path to be /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, I think edgy used /usr/share/fonts/misc
[05:25] <Tarkus> dont i need an ftp server for that?
[05:25] <PanzerMKZ> you got a linux box
[05:25] <PanzerMKZ> that can be an ftp server
[05:25] <dfwlinuxguy> add the X11 to each font path in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:25] <Varsendaggr> Crap  oobase isn't working worth crap...   how do i get it to work well?
[05:25] <buenas_werte> Tarkus: if your xp has IIS installed, ftp is part of that IIS
[05:25] <Tarkus> PanzerMKZ, all the desktops in my house are using Vista.. and i can access them with my ubuntu machine fine.. but my laptop isnt workin. im wondering what i need to do to set it up so i can see it in "Network"..
[05:26] <jamster545> all of this editing the GRUB is too complicated... i dont want to mess anything up
[05:26] <grndslm_> guys...i'm having some kinda hard drive problem... prolly kernel or hal. . . any advice on how i can figure out the [solution to the]  problem??
[05:26] <rococo> Tarkus: it's really easy to set up your machine to do ftp or sftp transfers. however, you can also do local network folder sharing without too much trouble. I'm rusty at it since I have the one computer, but if you want to do it that way I will help you because you are an ELP fan ;-)
[05:26] <PanzerMKZ> firewall?
[05:26] <excalibas> ok, i have installed sshfs, now what?
[05:26] <dr_willis> Tarkus,  its possible vistas firewall is blocking stuff..  You could use winscp under vista and transfer the stuff over,
[05:26] <buenas_werte> jamster545: its okay to hire professional help :)
[05:26] <quunick> hey, I have an old nVidia Vanta card with only 16 MB vram that skips frames watching videos. What would be a good card to upgrade to on the cheap? I don't care much about 3d games on this computer, I just want it for watching videos.
[05:26] <jamster545> *cant afford*
[05:26] <sdf> help
[05:26] <NemesisD> hi guys im trying to help someone get a scsi tape drive working in ubuntu, would the first step be cat /proc/scsi/scsi?
[05:26] <dr_willis> quunick,  you can get some pretty kicking nvidia cards in the $30 range now a days
[05:27] <PanzerMKZ> quunick: any newish card
[05:27] <cerealkiller219> I cant get my sound to work, and I've done all the troubleshooting :(
[05:27] <quunick> dr_willis: nice, what kinds should I look for
[05:27] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...dmesg is your friend
[05:27] <jamster545> Diablotek quunik
[05:27] <quunick> PanzerMKZ: newish cards are expensive : |
[05:27] <NemesisD> dfwlinuxguy, ok dmesg, should i be grepping for something?
[05:27] <dr_willis> quunick,  whatver fitx your pc and budget.
[05:27] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...as well as /var/log/syslog
[05:27] <Tarkus> dr_willis, im not sure how to use winscp.. or even what it is..
[05:27] <PanzerMKZ> 30$ is costly to you?
[05:27] <dr_willis> Tarkus,  a rather trivial to use windows program that lets you use ssh to transfer files. one of my top 10 windows tools :)
[05:27] <jamster545> quunick a good cheap brand is Diablotek and it is available at www.tigerdirect.com
[05:27] <sdf> i want install ide for ruby how?
[05:28] <CocoAUS> someone try to access my gnump3d server please
[05:28] <CocoAUS> http://24.20.48.231:6868/
[05:28] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I tried changing it, but it still gives me same error bout FreeFontPath, how do I change that I just changed it in my xorg.conf. IS there somewhere else I need to change it?
[05:28] <Tarkus> rococo, either way would be fine. but the local network folder sharing sounds like it would be the fastest/easiest way, no?
[05:28] <quunick> dr_willis: what I meant was, for 2d, is the amount of vram most important, or the clock speed, or the pipelines or what? I don't know anything about those
[05:28] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...if it is a scsi tape drive, it should have something about sd
[05:28] <dr_willis> quunick,  thers some nvidia card with tv out (a 5500?) that has a fanless design even. I need to get one for my MythTV box for its quietness.
[05:28] <quunick> cool, I'll take a look
[05:28] <excalibas> is it easyer to use ftp to transfer files from linux to xp?
[05:28] <PanzerMKZ> I got a 5200 with tv out
[05:28] <dr_willis> quunick,  worrying about '2d' any more is.. well..  not even an issue.
[05:28] <jamster545> quunick
[05:28] <Tru7h> How do I force quit something?
[05:28] <PanzerMKZ> I think mine was 40
[05:28] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ no...have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[05:29] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, yes many times
[05:29] <quunick> lol it is for my card... but then again it was made in the 90s
[05:29] <lockd> dr_willis: quunick: unless it doesn't support hardware accel
[05:29] <dr_willis> quunick,  when you can get 512mb cards under $50 :) its  a good life.
[05:29] <NemesisD> dfwlinuxguy, so dmesg|grep sd and cat /var/log/syslog|grep sd? anything in particular I should tell him to look for in there? i assume its going to have a lot of false positives in the search
[05:29] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h force quit from what...? a terminal?
[05:29] <lockd> dr_willis: quunick: then, 2d can be sluggishly unusable even on high end cards
[05:29] <jamster545> quunick there is another good brand with many good models that dont cost much... it is Diablotek and it has NVidia GPU's in it. go to www.tigerdirect.com
[05:29] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h ctl-c in the terminal
[05:29] <PanzerMKZ> hmm 512 megs vid card for under 50$
[05:30] <PanzerMKZ> I guress that I need to upgrade then
[05:30] <PanzerMKZ> mine is only 128
[05:30] <Tru7h> I have the install window open and it's frozen. It's not anywhere where it would be doing anything, it's on the keyboard layout screen. I can't close it and I dont see anything in the processes that looks like the install window
[05:30] <dr_willis> I think that 5500 i was looking at had 512
[05:30] <dr_willis> or was it a 5200
[05:30] <cafuego> 512Mb for mythtv is retarded. get a secondhand radeon <heh>
[05:30] <jamster545> i am done for the night... byes!
[05:30] <dr_willis> cafuego,  it was free. :)
[05:30] <pc_> dfwlinux, my screen starts up, but it like it doesn't know what to load. What does startx start? like where is the file telling it what to start.
[05:30] <rococo> Tarkus: well, the shared folder thing I'd recommend if you intend to toss content back and forth over that network all the time. I personally use ftp or sftp to do my transfers, for one because they're usually over the internet. The ftp stuff is cool because you could get the files to your laptop from ANYWHERE
[05:30] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...since I can't look at it personally, I can tell you to look carefully at the output of dmesg and you should be able to determine if there are errors with the drive
[05:30] <cafuego> dr_willis: that's alright then
[05:30] <dr_willis> cafuego,  and i wanted nvidia for the tv out mainly
[05:30] <dr_willis> ati's tvout  is -- well .. not always working
[05:31] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...if you have any scsi drives or sata drives, yes there will be output from them
[05:31] <Tarkus> rococo, but that would be slower then, and take up my bandwidth too?
[05:31] <PanzerMKZ> well I got some issues with macrovision
[05:31] <NemesisD> dfwlinuxguy, hes basically relying on me to help him use this tape drive and ive never even seen a tape drive in my life, but will cat /proc/scsi/scsi at least tell me where in /dev it is so i can try tar?
[05:31] <pc_> dfwlinux, my screen starts up, but it like it doesn't know what to load. What does startx start? like where is the file telling it what to start.
[05:31] <rococo> Tarkus: it'd only take up your bandwidth when you're transfering files
[05:31] <cafuego> dr_willis: *nod* I run my laptop as mythfrontend; atitvout works fine with it's buuiltin radeon - but for a new myth box i'd probably go nvidia too.
[05:31] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, my screen starts up, but it like it doesn't know what to load. What does startx start? like where is the file telling it what to start.
[05:31] <Tarkus> rococo, i just need to be able to send a few video files (5GB) to my laptop the easiest way.
[05:31] <f4ramir> I can connect to my wifi network fine with XP and WPA enabled. But when I try it from feisty it fails. It works fine without WPA though. Any idea why?
[05:32] <Tru7h> I have the install window open and it's frozen. It's not anywhere where it would be doing anything, it's on the keyboard layout screen. I can't close it and I dont see anything in the processes that looks like the install window
[05:32] <f4ramir> How can I troubleshoot this?
[05:32] <dr_willis> cafuego,  a new mythbox = lots of old parts  :)
[05:32] <rococo> Tarkus: alright, then from the GUI, make a new folder. right-click it and choose "share this folder"
[05:32] <quunick> oh wait, it also has to be agp 4x :/
[05:32] <rococo> Tarkus: (this being in Ubuntu)
[05:32] <Tru7h> The "Abort the installation?" window is also open but it's frozen to
[05:32] <Tarkus> rococo alright
[05:32] <rococo> Tarkus: it should take you through a process to install the sharing services
[05:32] <lockd> are there any vid cards with open source drivers good enough to run something 2d like "cfplus"?
[05:33] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ look at /etc/X11/Xsession
[05:33] <cafuego> dr_willis: nah, I don't have quiet old parts - only howling-fan stuff ;-)
[05:33] <NemesisD> dfwlinuxguy, also,  the tape drive is connected through a scsi pci card if that is relevant
[05:33] <rococo> Tarkus: it'll let you install SMB (windows network) support
[05:33] <dr_willis> !find cfplus
[05:33] <ubotu> Package/file cfplus does not exist in feisty
[05:33] <Tarkus> rococo, ok its installing both the suport services.
[05:34] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...all scsi devices should show up as /dev/sd* (sda/sdb/sdg)
[05:34] <lockd> dr_willis: how soon you rush to search
[05:34] <Tarkus> rococo, ok, its done installing
[05:34] <NemesisD> dfwlinuxguy, in cat /proc/scsi/scsi?
[05:34] <Tarkus> rococo, do i just say "share thorugh: windows network (SMB)"?
[05:34] <knuhli1> how does this work?
[05:34] <quunick> dr_willis: do you have a link to that fanless 5500?
[05:34] <Tru7h> Meh
[05:35] <rococo> Tarkus: yep
[05:35] <Tru7h> I'll just restart
[05:35] <rococo> Tru7h: I answered you before. But anyway, it's totally frozen?
[05:35] <Tru7h> Oh?
[05:35] <rococo> Tru7h: does hitting alt+f1 do anything?
[05:35] <dr_willis> quunick,  i saw mention of it on the "Dragon" Mythtv machine site i was researching  a few weeks ago.
[05:35] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...I don't think that is going to tell you much
[05:35] <Tarkus> rococo, ok. done
[05:35] <dr_willis> quunick,  im not sure if the thing is even still made however. :()
[05:35] <Tru7h> Alt+F1 brings up the applications menu
[05:35] <Tarkus> rococo, now am i supposed to be able to see it from the laptop?
[05:35] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I don't know how to edit that /etc/X11/xsessions, any help one what I need to do? or what that loads?
[05:36] <dr_willis> quunick,  you are looking for an AGP card right? not a PCi?
[05:36] <Prdez> hiiiiiiii
[05:36] <rococo> Tarkus: okay, now you should be able to put the files into that folder. have your windows laptop look for network folders, and it should find it
[05:36] <blue42> exit
[05:36] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...If it is in your system and is causing an error it will show up in dmesg and syslog
[05:36] <quunick> dr_willis: right. 4x
[05:36] <Prdez> my 1920x1200 monitor doesn't work in native in 7.04
[05:36] <NemesisD> dfwlinuxguy, ok rgr, stick with dmesg|grep sd and cat /var/log/syslog|grep sd, but aren't tape drives sometimes like /dev/st0 or something like that, even if they are scsi?
[05:36] <Tarkus> rococo, alright, thanks ill check if its there.
[05:36] <Prdez> radeon x1950 fglrx driver
[05:36] <Tru7h> rococo, Alt+F1 brings up the applications menu
[05:36] <rococo> Tru7h: oh, so it's not frozen?
[05:37] <rococo> Tru7h: the install process is just halted?
[05:37] <Tru7h> The windows are
[05:37] <dr_willis> quunick, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121019
[05:37] <Tru7h> they wont do anything or close
[05:37] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...no it should be /dev/sd(something)
[05:37] <quunick> dr_willis: thanks
[05:37] <rococo> Tru7h: well, you know how it told you to look at the syslog?
[05:37] <dr_willis> only 255 ram - but its cheape rnoe then it used to be! :)
[05:37] <quunick> Tru7h: you can restart gnome by doing ctrl alt delete. But you probably knew that
[05:37] <Tarkus> rococo, nope, i dont see it.. i looked in Network and i onyl see the laptop computer in there.
[05:37] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_....ok..you run startx and it gives you an error about not finding the font path right?
[05:38] <dr_willis> ahh - it uses system ram i think.
[05:38] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy yes FPE
[05:38] <Tru7h> rococo: Yes. The syslog wouldn't open with nano or text editor though, and when I try to copy it to my external drive it says I don't have permission
[05:38] <dr_willis> thats why its so cheap
[05:38] <rococo> Tarkus: did you tell the laptop to search for computers/folders on the network via the network settings?
[05:38] <Tru7h> Okay
[05:38] <quunick> dr_willis: lets see, that is at least 8 times my video ram
[05:38] <duvnell> is there a way to list the services from the command line (much like chkconfig  --list  on other distroes)?
[05:38] <rococo> Tru7h: you need to use sudo
[05:38] <Tru7h> Rococo: I did
[05:38] <Vanax> So i think i messed up something while getting wine and wow to work, is there a way i can like, undo everythign i did? haha
[05:38] <Tarkus> rococo, no. not sure where to do that.
[05:38] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_....can you use pastebin to paste the contents of your xorg.conf?
[05:39] <rococo> Tru7h: oh, you need to make your external drive writable (should be able to via the properties)
[05:39] <Tru7h> rococo: I'll just restart\
[05:39] <excalibas> what settings should i use in winscp?
[05:39] <knuhli1> I have a Broadcom 4306 wireless card, and I've installed fwcutter etc to get it up and running. However, when I try to switch between wireless and wired, occasionally everything (starting programs, logging off, even keyboard)  stops working. Does anyone know what might be causing this?
[05:39] <Tru7h> and retry the install
[05:39] <pc_> unfortunately no, because I am currently in irssi on that machine and can't copy and paste.
[05:39] <Tru7h> I've alrweady got it partitioned
[05:39] <rococo> Tru7h: yeah,restarting might fix it, but get the logs if it happens again
[05:39] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, unfortunately no, because I am currently in irssi on that machine and can't copy and paste.
[05:39] <Tru7h> Okay
[05:39] <dfwlinuxguy> knuhli1...i recently had to un-install fwcutter to get my wireless card working in my laptop after the latest kernel upgrade
[05:40] <quunick> dr_willis: it looks awesome - I'm looking for a similar agp version
[05:40] <rococo> Tarkus: It's somewhere in either "My Networks" or... one of those network settings you can get through via my computer/control panel in XP.
[05:41] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ ok all of my fontpath in xorg.conf starts with /usr/share/fonts/X11/ except this one - Fontpath        "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
[05:41] <rococo> Tarkus: sorry, unless someone else knows, I think you'll have to search - I have no Windows machine in front of me and it's been too long for me to tell you it *exactly* from memory
[05:41] <knuhli1> dfwlinuxguy... why does uninstalling it help to get the card working?
[05:41] <Prdez> my 1920x1200 monitor doesn't work in native in 7.04
[05:41] <Prdez> radeon x1950 fglrx driver
[05:41] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ is that the way yours looks?
[05:41] <ribo> how do I get a proper serial console with upstart (god I miss inittab)
[05:41] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, let me check
[05:41] <dr_willis> quunick,  heh so am i.. there was an agp one out..
[05:41] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, yes
[05:42] <excalibas> what should i put in hostname on winscp?
[05:42] <dfwlinuxguy> knuhli1 I am just as frustrated as you...it seems that every kernel upgrade in feisty causes me to look for a new solution for my wireless card....that is what worked for me
[05:42] <quunick> found a 50 dollar one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130014
[05:42] <Pelo> Prdez, do you have the ati drivers installed ? if so you can add the extra resolutions you need for your screen to xorg.conf
[05:42] <rococo> Tarkus: http://www.home-network-help.com/shared-folder.html
[05:42] <PanzerMKZ> the ip addy
[05:42] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, see when I type startx it comes up with a grey colored screen, which I have seen before meaning there is no window manager. But I can't figure out how to tell it which window manager to run.
[05:42] <PanzerMKZ> or the computer name
[05:42] <dukens> He
[05:42] <dukens> hello
[05:42] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ the grey screen with the X in the middle?
[05:42] <Prdez> ok, aticonfig yeah.
[05:42] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, yep
[05:43] <dukens> I need some help
[05:43] <dasm1> how do I get a copy of all the start-up messages? (i tried dmesg, but that wasn't what i was looking for)
[05:43] <SlickMcRunfast> are there any other programs like Evolution/Outlook for Linux?
[05:43] <Tom47>  !ask > dukens
[05:43] <Pelo> dukens,  just state your issus and if someone can help they will try
[05:43] <PanzerMKZ> not a bad card
[05:43] <Toma-> quunick: ive got one of those, but mine has a fan. youre not going to be gamimg with it are you?
[05:43] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ can you see anything relevant in ~/.xsession-errors
[05:43] <dr_willis> SlickMcRunfast,  you mean other Email clients?
[05:43] <dukens> I wanna know to installe gstreamer on my UBUNTU
[05:43] <dfwlinuxguy> slickmcrunfast...I like thunderbird
[05:43] <SlickMcRunfast> not just email
[05:44] <klobster> is it possible for me to play wma files in linux?
[05:44] <Prdez> thunderbird is replacement for outlook express
[05:44] <SlickMcRunfast> calender task memo
[05:44] <Pelo> dukens,   menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager   use the search feature
[05:44] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I don't even have that file or the ~/.xsession
[05:44] <knuhli1> dfwlinuxguy... well, i'll poke around i guess. it's just weird in my case because the card usually works fine, there are just some weird, random, and disastrous problems
[05:44] <dr_willis> klobster,  depending on their codec.. yes.
[05:44] <SlickMcRunfast> and its integrated
[05:44] <quunick> Toma-: wesnoth : ) lol not really gaming. This is my P3 machine, I game on my other one
[05:44] <dfwlinuxguy> slickmcrunfast...It doesn't have all the features of outlook, but evolution has proved buggy to me
[05:44] <klobster> dr_willis: how can I find out what codec they are?
[05:44] <Pelo> dukens,  I do not take private msg , please talk to me in the channel
[05:44] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I don't even have that file or the ~/.xsession
[05:44] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ "~/.xsession-errors"
[05:45] <nsap> Im having a problem isntalling ubuntu 7.04
[05:45] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, nope don't have that, or the ~/.xsession
[05:45] <Toma-> quunick: ahh ok. ive had alot of mega-crashes with fanless gfx cards, as they overheat pretty easy. especially if you run quake3 or something fun :)
[05:45] <dr_willis> klobster,  try to play them and look at the messages in the terminal i guess.. Personally if its a wma file.. i dont bother with them. :)
[05:45] <nsap> its not letting me boot to the live CD to install it
[05:45] <dr_willis> klobster,  some 'spyware/porn/malware' wmv's try to get windows to download Viruses/or worse.
[05:45] <quunick> Toma-: lol. I got a pretty good fanless 7600GS that hasn't failed me yet
[05:45] <Toma-> quunick: also, the fact that they sit right underneath the cpu heatsink on most ATX cases, is just a stupid design flaw
[05:45] <pc_> nsap, you need to go into your bios and change boot order to boot the cd first
[05:45] <Pelo> nsap, what videocard do you have on your comp ?
[05:45] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ result of "whoami"
[05:45] <Toma-> quunick: lucky D
[05:45] <Toma-> :D
[05:46] <dr_willis> klobster,  most should be playable with the right codecs installed.
[05:46] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, pc
[05:46] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ and you are running startx as pc?
[05:46] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, yep
[05:46] <nsap> im using an ATI radeon 9250
[05:46] <timothy> anyone know how i can get my laptop to "wake" properly from suspend?
[05:46] <klobster> dr_willis: sprint only lets me have system copies of my music in wma format, so I am stuck with them.
[05:47] <mobutu> hi my sound doesn't work after hibernation
[05:47] <mobutu> i have 'resumed'
[05:47] <PanzerMKZ> I like nvida
[05:47] <quaal> does ubuntu/ubuntu server have any ability to manage the machine acting as a file server thorugh http:// as you would a NAS server ?
[05:47] <PanzerMKZ> for vid cards
[05:47] <mobutu> is there something i can do to make the sound work ? (without rebooting)
[05:47] <Pelo> nsap,  you will need to use the alternate install cd to install ubuntu and install the video drivers afterwards
[05:47] <klobster> mobutu: what sound card?
[05:47] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ I'm sorry..can you tell me the exact error you are getting again (sorry)
[05:47] <dr_willis> klobster,  i wouldent buy anything more from sprint then. Thers ways  around that i imagine.
[05:47] <nsap> it boots to the disk and then i click start/installl
[05:47] <dukens> hi
[05:47] <nsap> and it begins the process and give me a long error message
[05:47] <Pelo> nsap,  you will need to use the alternate install cd to install ubuntu and install the video drivers afterwards
[05:48] <nsap> ok ty
[05:48] <mobutu> klobster: lspci | grep audio tells me:  Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[05:48] <klobster> dr_willis: I get one free per month with my internet plan, but since I don't use windows , I can only play them on my phone.
[05:48] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, okay when i type startx, it says some stuff about can't init fontpath, then it says waiting for x server to shutdown, FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1, fixin
[05:48] <Random_Transit> hey, question....why are all the fonts in my KDE apps much larger when i run those apps in GNOME?
[05:48] <klobster> sound works if you reboot, mobuto/
[05:48] <dr_willis> klobster,  they let you download one song free per month? Gee how generous of them :)
[05:48] <rococo> quaal: sorry, I use Debian for my server needs. you might have better luck at #ubuntu-server though
[05:48] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ do you have defoma installed?
[05:48] <mobutu> klobster: yeah i know it'll work if i reboot.  i don't want to reboot!
[05:49] <quaal> rococo, debian is fine
[05:49] <dukens> I got controler volume gstreamer not installed
[05:49] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ dpkg --list defoma
[05:49] <mohsin> hi dear i can't see my bootsplash can any one help me
[05:49] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, umm... i don't think so I willt try to install it sudo apt-get install defoma right?
[05:49] <mobutu> klobster: sound would work after hiberation when i was running Edgy
[05:49] <Pelo> g'night folks
[05:49] <mohsin> ?
[05:49] <quunick> dr_willis: here's one - probably underpowered though. can't beat the price :) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143098
[05:49] <quaal> rococo, does it have a NAS capability as i mentioned, with http:// configuration ?
[05:49] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ dpkg --list defoma
[05:49] <klobster> dr_willis: nice perk with the unlimited internet access.
[05:49] <Random_Transit> can anyone answer my question?
[05:49] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ yes apt-get install defoma
[05:49] <dukens> tom is there please
[05:49] <mohsin> hi dear i can't see my bootsplash can any one help me
[05:49] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, ddfwlinuxguy, already the newest version
[05:49] <dr_willis> quunick,   that one is way too old for the $$$
[05:49] <mohsin> or noxt
[05:50] <dr_willis> quunick,  is spend the extra $20 on a better one.
[05:50] <klobster> mobuto: just checking if it _did_ work, hold on I believe I know this issue, but let me research, are you gnome or KDE?
[05:50] <mobutu> gnome
[05:50] <dukens> qlq'1 peut m'aider S.V.P
[05:50] <quunick> dr_willis: alright...
[05:50] <mohsin> hi dear i can't see my bootsplash can any one help me
[05:50] <rococo> quaal: there are a lot of HTTP configuration tools for linux-based servers. I do my management with SSH, but I've heard great things about webmin - I don't know whether it handles NAS services, though
[05:50] <mohsin> or nor the text
[05:50] <quunick> Core clock       275 MHz
[05:50] <dukens> please brothers
[05:50] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ I'm running out of answers here..have you tried re-booting?
[05:50] <Tom47> !fr > dukens
[05:50] <quunick> not very fast
[05:51] <rococo> quaal: pretty sure it does, though. it configures a LOT
[05:51] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, to many times :)
[05:51] <brylie> how can I determine what alsa device something is outputting to?
[05:51] <dukens> oui Tom47
[05:51] <brylie>  I've got a desktop recorder that is set to record audio from hw:0,0
[05:51] <mohsin> any one answer me or not
[05:51] <mohsin> ?
[05:51] <brylie> and xmms is playing audio via alsa
[05:51] <dr_willis> quunick,   a geforce4mx is like UBER old. theser days.. heh heh..  even onboard video can out perform them now. :)
[05:51] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ w/o seeing your xorg.conf... I don't know where to go next
[05:51] <brylie> but there is only static crackling when I playback the capture
[05:51] <pc_> mohsin, try sudo apt-get install gdm
[05:51] <quunick> haha ok
[05:51] <mobutu> anyone know the name of the package i would install for kde?  I don't want to install kde-desktop right now and overwrite the fact i boot into gnome
[05:52] <dr_willis> mobutu,  kubuntu-desktop, but that last part of your statement made no sence.
[05:52] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, see I think the problem is startx doesn't have a clue what window manager I need to load. If I could figure out how to tell it. that would probably fix it.
[05:52] <dukens> j'ai pas de son sur Ubuntu poutant il reconnait bien la carte son
[05:52] <mobutu> i think if i install kubuntu-desktop, it will replace gdm with kdm.  right ?
[05:52] <andre_pl> mobutu, kdesktop, kde-network, kde-multimedia etc etc.
[05:52] <brylie> it won't overrite your gnome boot mobutu
[05:52] <dr_willis> mobutu,  not really
[05:52] <steev_> mobutu: it asks you which is the default
[05:52] <quaal> rococo, thank you much
[05:52] <mohsin> pc: i tried that by the same black window
[05:52] <dr_willis> you can pick what Xdm to use
[05:52] <Tom47> mobutu selection of which gdm you boot into is on the login screen
[05:52] <rococo> quaal: rereading your original question, yes, I'm pretty positive webmin is what you're looking for. And no problem!
[05:52] <mohsin> and its realy anoying me
[05:52] <brylie> it will let you choose betweet gdm and kdm mobutu
[05:52] <EADG_> !fr | dukens
[05:53] <ubotu> dukens: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:53] <dfwlinuxguy> mobutu ...http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,132030-c,linux/article.html
[05:53] <mobutu> klobster: i tried sound while running fluxbox, didn't work either
[05:53] <philc_> is it possible to have scp transmit a group of files as one (have it zip them up or something) and then extract them on the remote machine? Or is this something I should write myself? I'd think it would be a fairly common task, since transmitting 50 small files is much slower than one big zip file
[05:53] <pc_> Does anyone know how to tell STARTX, what window manager you want it to load?
[05:53] <quunick> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814170065
[05:53] <mohsin> pc: can u ans me
[05:53] <mohsin> ?
[05:53] <dr_willis> pc_,  edit/make a .xinitrc file
[05:53] <mobutu> philc_: you could tar up a directory , pipe it through ssh , extra it with tar
[05:54] <dukens> merci
[05:54] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ cho "/usr/local/bin/gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc
[05:54] <pc_> mohsin, someone gave you a link to pcworld.com try that
[05:54] <rococo> philc_: you can log in via ssh, zip up the files using tar.gz, and then get the .tar.gz file with scp
[05:54] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ echo "/usr/local/bin/gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc
[05:54] <andrewkk> do i have to do anything special to install a .tar.gz under amd64?
[05:54] <klobster> mobuto: so you are running gnome? (apt-get install kde-desktop, BTW)... is it a thinkpad?
[05:54] <dukens> EADG peux-tu m'aider?
[05:54] <quunick> same core clock speed though
[05:54] <mohsin> ahan
[05:54] <mohsin> thx
[05:54] <dr_willis> pc_,  example .xinitrc file (2 lines)    xterm &  exec windowmaker
[05:54] <pc_> okay
[05:54] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ sorry cho "/usr/bin/gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc
[05:54] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ sorry echo "/usr/bin/gnome-session" > ~/.xinitrc
[05:54] <brylie> Andrewkk tar.gz is just a compression farmat like .zip
[05:54] <mobutu> philc_: the command syntax is something like tar -czf - . | ssh user@dest "(cd /destdir && tar -xzvf -)"
[05:55] <quunick> dr_willis: that one only has opengl 1.4
[05:55] <excalibas> dr_willis: in my home network how do i know the name of the server to connect winscp to xubuntuu?
[05:55] <mobutu> klobster: im running gnome, no it is a panasonic toughbook, no thinkpad
[05:55] <Tru7h> Okay
[05:55] <EADG_> dukens: sorry, i can't speak French :/
[05:55] <dr_willis> quunick,  ive said what one id suggest :) saving $5 for 1 /2 the card is not worth it.
[05:55] <kenotz> am i on the right place? i need help in installing ubuntu 7.04
[05:55] <brylie> how can I determine what alsa device something is outputting to?
[05:55] <brylie>  I've got a desktop recorder that is set to record audio from hw:0,0
[05:55] <brylie> and xmms is playing audio via alsa
[05:55] <dr_willis> excalibas,  use its ip# is what i do
[05:55] <brylie> but there is only static crackling when I playback the capture
[05:55] <analfabeta> hi
[05:55] <dfwlinuxguy> kenotz..yes
[05:56] <quunick> dr_willis: yeah. I'll look at those $40 cards now
[05:56] <dr_willis> excalibas,  ifconfig will show the ip#
[05:56] <quunick> something in the 6000 series?
[05:56] <andrewkk> okay. do i have to do anything special to install a program from source under amd64?
[05:56] <mobutu> kenotz: just ask your question
[05:56] <dr_willis> quunick,  yea.  I want one with 2 dvi out however. :) and a tv out.
[05:56] <dukens> ok thanx
[05:56] <dfwlinuxguy> !ask
[05:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:56] <dr_willis> quunick,  And no fan
[05:56] <Tru7h> I have my main windows partition, an ext3 partition, and two hidden partitions that came pre-installed on my computer. I need a swap partition but it says I can only have 4 partitions. How can I fix that??
[05:56] <brylie> should be the same process as installing on a 32 bit platform andrewkk
[05:56] <pc_> Yay, echo the window manager like you said dfwlinuxguy, work THX
[05:56] <mapez> !calc 480+480
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about calc 480+480 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <analfabeta> i'm trying use a smartlink modem in ubuntu, this is recognized, but sudo pon provider doesnt give me any output and nothing connection... i try pon.wvdial, but nothing too, kppp give me a segmentation fault! what i do?
[05:57] <mapez> bahhhh
[05:57] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ YEAH! cool!
[05:57] <mapez> wrong channel
[05:57] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy THANK YOU A LOT
[05:57] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ no problem
[05:57] <brylie> andrewkk have you attempted to install whatever it is you're inquiring about yet?
[05:57] <klobster> mobuto: what kernel are you on (uname -r)?
[05:57] <pc_> YAY party at PC's
[05:57] <kenotz> ok tnx. i have a problem in booting ubuntu. i can boot it from my dvd rom, install it. but after reboot, got a message something like "error loading operating sytem"
[05:57] <dukens> I don't have son on Ubuntu can you help me to fix it please
[05:57] <andrewkk> brylie: ./configure gives me "machine `x86_64-unknown' not recognized"
[05:58] <klobster> doh! wrong chan...
[05:58] <Tru7h> I'm trying to install Ubuntu. I have my main windows partition, an ext3 partition, and two hidden partitions that came pre-installed on my computer that I'm afraid to mess with. I need a swap partition but it says I can only have 4 partitions. How can I fix that??
[05:58] <quunick> dr_willis: s-video out for tv?
[05:58] <matthew1429> is it so impossible to get VISTA and ubuntu to see each other
[05:58] <brylie> the package you're compiling might not suppord 64 bit architecture
[05:58] <matthew1429> \I haven't found a complete tutorial yet
[05:58] <excalibas> its not working, do i have to do something in xubuntu or just run winscp? and the username and pass are from linux right?
[05:58] <mobutu> klobster: whatever ubuntu shoved down my throat last week, 2.6.20-16-generic
[05:58] <drowner> hell again all
[05:58] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h you need to use extended partitions
[05:58] <drowner> remember me?
[05:58] <Tru7h> dfwlinuxguy: How do I do that?
[05:58] <drowner> hellO rather
[05:58] <kenotz> i guess grub isn't install in my hdd
[05:58] <andrewkk> brylie: alright. :( thanks.
[05:59] <dr_willis> quunick,  yep. :) i want it for my slient mythtv box
[05:59] <brylie> what is the package andrewkk?
[05:59] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h delete partition #4 (swap partition?) and when it asks you to create a partition, create extended not primary
[05:59] <Tru7h> OKay
[05:59] <dukens> EADG do you see my question?
[05:59] <Tru7h> I'll delete the ext3
[05:59] <aabrahao>  I just remove apache, any recomendation for a fresh installation?
[05:59] <Tru7h> and create an ext3 and swap in the extenred partition?
[06:00] <analfabeta> i'm trying use a smartlink modem in ubuntu, this is recognized, but sudo pon provider doesnt give me any output and nothing connection... i try pon.wvdial, but nothing too, kppp give me a segmentation fault! what i do?
[06:00] <Fritz> if you right click on a removable device and change it's mount options, does anybody know where those are saved?
[06:00] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h sorry, please don't delete any of your data..pls be careful
[06:00] <brylie> aabrahao, Ubuntu Server Edition?
[06:00] <Toma-> Anyone know how to save some gconf/theme settings on a livecd?
[06:00] <mobutu> klobster: maybe there is a magical kernel parameter i can tweak?  i hope.
[06:00] <drowner> hi all. i want to resize my NTFS partition and make my ext3 larger
[06:00] <EADG_> dukens: Now I do. Son? Your boy
[06:00] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h yes
[06:00] <drowner> ooh netsplit
[06:00] <quunick> dr_willis, well, good luck. newegg doesn't have any like that
[06:00] <mobutu> drowner: have you tried booting with a livecd and running gparted ?
[06:00] <andrewkk> brylie: i'm following http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Install_Hugin_Panoramic_Tools_and_Enblend and getting the error on libxmi-1.2
[06:00] <Prdez> drowner: use gparted
[06:01] <Tru7h> dfwlinuxguy: Thanks for the concern, but it's okay. I'm on a liveCD and just trying to get everything partitioned correctly to install it. :)
[06:01] <dukens> no sound
[06:01] <drowner> i've got a gparted live cd
[06:01] <brylie> andrewkk there is a hugin package in synaptic
  yes
[06:01] <quunick> DVI[2 ] ,Interface[AGP 4X/8X ] ,Cooler[Fanless ] ,
[06:01] <dfwlinuxguy> tru7h make the extended partition the size of the remainder of your drive then you can create addtional extended partitions 5,6,7 as needed
[06:01] <drowner> will moving the ext3 partition 'to the left' mess up grub or my fstab?
[06:01] <Tru7h> dfwlinuxguy: Thanks for your help :)
[06:01] <Prdez> drowner: neither.
[06:01] <drowner> cool
[06:01] <Ishmael> can i get some help with xorg.conf
[06:01] <brylie> andrewkk why do you need to manually compile then?
[06:01] <Ishmael> whats the command to configure xorg?
[06:02] <EADG_> dukens: ahh, ok. Look at the message from ubotu for help url (web site)
[06:02] <EADG_> !sound | dukens
[06:02] <drowner> i would LOVE to delete the ntfs partition (sda1), but i think doing that will more than likely mess up my grub and fstab
[06:02] <ubotu> dukens: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:02] <dukens> the message is:Aucun greffon de contrle de volume GStreamer et/ou priphriques trouvs.
[06:02] <mobutu> Ishmael: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-whateveryourserveris
[06:02] <brylie> !resolution | Ishmael
[06:02] <ubotu> Ishmael: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:02] <Ishmael> thanks
[06:02] <dfwlinuxguy> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:02] <mobutu> oops
[06:02] <andrewkk> brylie: oh wow. last i heard it wasn't in the repos yet. but that was a while ago. i'll try that then. thanks for the help.
[06:03] <drowner> prdez: i would LOVE to delete the ntfs partition (sda1), but i think doing that will more than likely mess up my grub and fstab
[06:03] <dfwlinuxguy> well if no one else needs my help..i'm off
[06:03] <KevinOman> what are the package names for compiz?
[06:03] <Prdez> yes it would
[06:03] <brylie> andrewkk see also 'pandora'
[06:03] <excalibas> dr_willis: it is not working, what is this sshf i just installed in linux, do i have to use this?
[06:04] <klobster> mobotu: it's a bug in the acpi that screws it up here are some possible fixes
[06:04] <mobutu> KevinOman: i think if you install gnome-compiz-manager , it will pull in the dependencies
  yes, any recomendation for a new fresh apache installation?
[06:04] <drowner> prdez: i thought as much. I was asking this earlier. Would it be easier to boot live and fix the fstab and grub? because im not quite ready for a clean isntall
[06:04] <KevinOman> mobutu thanks
[06:04] <Prdez> drowner: i don't have experience with that.
[06:05] <kenotz> anybody here can help me? i cant start ubuntu on my hdd which is on a built-in ATA-100 controller.
[06:05] <klobster> mobotu: there are a couple of options:  try this 'echo shutdown > /sys/power/disk' and then hibernate, unhibernate, and tell me what happens
[06:05] <brylie> aabrahao, I would do a fresh Ubuntu Server Edition install. It comes wich apache, mysql, php preconfigured out of the box
[06:05] <dr_willis> excalibas,  never used sshfs - Its highly likely that vista's firewall is blocking stuff. try disabling it for a while as a test.
[06:05] <drowner> prdez: yeah, fair enough. but i imagine its not a great idea, and would require a fair bit of fiddling. But i can safely move it to the left. thanks for that.
[06:05] <quunick> night all
[06:05] <Fritz> so, my sd card reader was being mounted ro, and I needed rw, so I modified the device settings by right clicking on it when mounted.  Now it won't mount and I can't figure out how to undo those options, any ideas anybody?
[06:05] <brylie> !apache | aabrahao
[06:05] <ubotu> aabrahao: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[06:05] <dr_willis> excalibas,  sshfs lets your linux box mount ssh  'connections' as if they were partitions. Not what you need I belive.
[06:06] <Prdez> drowner: removing 1st active partition sohuld make next one sda1 unless they are logical partitions
[06:06] <excalibas> dr_willis: the firewall is disabled, i dont need to do nothing on linux, just run winscp should work?
[06:06] <drowner> prdez: there is a logical partition, sda2, but it appears AFTER sda3
[06:06] <workbean> correct me if I'm wrong but anacron will only run during system startup (right?) so I don't shutdown my computer for a month, it won't run the daily tasks daily?
[06:07] <Prdez> drowner: logical partitions start with 5
[06:07] <drowner> prdez: oh, rly?
[06:07] <dr_willis> excalibas,  you do have ssh installed on the linux box?
[06:07] <brylie> !anacron > workbean
[06:07] <drowner> ahh sorry
[06:07] <Prdez> yeah
[06:07] <Prdez> got anything after 5?
[06:07] <drowner> prdez: and EXTENDED partition
[06:07] <scarter> Tom47, dfwlinuxguy: read quite a bit... all these assume you are adding additional packages to create a custom cd not replacing existing old packages with their security/version update debs...  i was thinking of something like the slipstreaming feature in newer m$ products to create updated installs of the same version. any other ideas?
[06:07] <Prdez> drowner: extended is a holder for logical partitions
[06:07] <drowner> yep
[06:08] <excalibas> i just installed sshf with synaptic, but i did  nothing more
[06:08] <Prdez> you could have 4 active and 1 extended and 4 logical
[06:08] <Prdez> in windows
[06:08] <dr_willis> !ssh
[06:08] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:08] <Tom47> scarter je ne parle ms
[06:08] <Tom47> pas
[06:08] <Prdez> so you could have multiple primary and multiple logical
[06:08] <roaet> Hellloo!
[06:09] <dr_willis> excalibas,  i think ya need to have the openssh package installed and started
[06:09] <Prdez> sorry, there's only one active
[06:09] <OmniD> Oh lordie lordie, my x server won't start and I've no clue what to do!
[06:09] <OmniD> I think Beryl overloaded the GPU
[06:09] <excalibas> dr_willis, ok ill do that
[06:09] <OmniD> or... something
[06:09] <roaet> I'm having some intermittent connection issues with my ubuntu server flavor. Sometimes users can connect to the website and other times they can't. Any suggestions for this matter?
[06:09] <Vw1`8t> Hello everyone. I'm trying to install latest version of Ubuntu distro 7.04 AMD64 on my laptop. During install, setup freezes on "loading hardware drivers". What is causing that, and how can I fix it? Take in consideration my knowledge of linux is not that great.
[06:10] <mobutu> klobster: I rebooted, sound worked, I echo shutdown > /sys/power/disk/ , i hibernated, i unhibernated, sound does not work
[06:10] <pyro540> Hello everyone!
 the lamp was installed, and now I just removed the apache and apache2, is the best way to install it the lamp again?
[06:10] <drowner> thanks prdez
[06:10] <Tom47> Vw1`8t: since you are new to linux i suggest you choose the 32 bit version .... you will begin with difficulty startiing with 64 bit
[06:10] <Prdez> no problem
[06:10] <drowner> ill try moving it over with the gparted live cd
[06:10] <drowner> should be ok.
[06:10] <Prdez> fdisk will tell you all
[06:10] <drowner> all what?
[06:11] <scarter> Tom47: oui, m'aussi
[06:11] <OmniD> Can Beryl cause Xserver to not start up anymore?
[06:11] <OmniD> Mind you it doesn't start up with Beryl either
[06:11] <Tom47> scarter :D
[06:11] <Vw1`8t> Tom47, same error came up with 32 bit
[06:11] <Vw1`8t> :\
[06:11] <dukens> gys it about the: gnome-volume-control
[06:11] <Prdez> what is what extdended primary logical etc
[06:12] <excalibas> dr_willis, i need the openssh client or server?
[06:12] <pyro540> Hey, I am having trouble installing Nvidia drivers for my Geforce 4, the installation keeps telling me that I am running an x server, and that I need to close it before installing. How do I fix this, and what is an x server?
[06:12] <klobster> mobuto: using the hardware key hit turn the volume up and tell me if it works now?
[06:12] <mobutu> klobster: i made a window for you!
[06:12] <workbean> stupid me :-) there's an anacron file in /etc/cron.d :-)
[06:12] <workbean> thanks guys!
[06:12] <drowner> ahh ok, i know that sda1 is NTFS sda2 is extended (but appears to the right of sda3), sda3 is ext3, sda5 is fat32, sda6 is swap
[06:12] <drowner> that sounds reasonable, right?
[06:12] <Flying-Penguin> Meh, Grub doens't work with my USB keyboard.. witch makes booting to windows a pain
[06:12] <Tom47> Vw1`8t: ok but the suggestion still stands and you will get more people answering questions if based on 32 bit is suspect
[06:13] <Flying-Penguin> is there a boot loader I could install that will work with my usb keyboard?
[06:13] <drowner> Flying-Penguin: is USB enabled in your BIOS?
[06:13] <dr_willis> excalibas,  may as well install both.
[06:13] <dfwlinuxguy> flying-penguin... it is most likely your bios
[06:13] <grndslm_> am i the only one having problems with beagled-helper?!?!?
[06:13] <dukens> EADG did see my last message?
[06:13] <pyro540> Flying-Penguin: I would suggest using a USB to ps/2 adapter. It worked for me
[06:13] <aronis> anyone from brazil?
[06:13] <Flying-Penguin> Drowner, I can use my usb keyboard to enter and modify my bios during boot
[06:13] <drowner> prdez: thanks again.
[06:13] <OmniD> Can Beryl cause Xserver to not start up anymore? Mind you it does not start up with Beryl enabled at all, yet X refuses to start at boot, and I have no clue how to activate or do anything to it while in the terminal.
[06:13] <drowner> oh
[06:14] <Prdez> drowner: sure.
[06:14] <workbean> nice, now I can configure rdiff-backup
[06:15] <Tiradin> Would anyone happen to know if there are drivers for the following: Logitech MX518 Gaming Grade Optical Mouse
[06:15] <dfwlinuxguy> flying-penguin... there is no reason your usb keyboard should not work in Linux unless it is a bio issue
[06:15] <Tiradin> As well as a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard 1a?
[06:15] <rococo> Flying-Penguin: go into BIOS anyway. Make sure you have USB *Legacy* support, not just USB support
[06:15] <Tom47> aronis not me but why do you ask?
[06:15] <Flying-Penguin> my keyboard works in linux, just doens't seem to work in grub 0o
[06:15] <Flying-Penguin> rococo: Alright, will do
[06:15] <Vw1`8t> Tom47, I have both, 32 & 64 bit ubuntu iso CDs in front of me...they both freeze at same point "loading hardware drivers"
[06:15] <Tiradin> doesn't USB load up after grub/
[06:15] <Tiradin> ?*
[06:15] <dfwlinuxguy> flying-penguin... are you using a kvm?
[06:15] <dr_willis> Flying-Penguin,  my grub does not work with USB keyboard either.. but I recall it did work on one usb port.. (but cant get it to do it now)
[06:16] <pyro540> what is an x sersver, and can I disable it?
[06:16] <workbean> so anacron will run at boot time as well as at 7:30am, so cron.daily and cron.weekly will be executed even if you leave your computer on... coolness
[06:16] <brylie> !x | pyro540
[06:16] <ubotu> pyro540: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:16] <rococo> Tiradin: extended usb does, but I've used grub with USB keyboards before with no problems
[06:16] <dr_willis> Flying-Penguin,  USB-Legacy support in My bios - made the system (linux and windows both) refuse to boot right. :( so i got a little cheap ps2 keyboard  on a shelf i just use fr grub. :)
[06:16] <excalibas> dr_willis, it is installed, now how do i get ssh to run?
[06:16] <dr_willis> excalibas,  try 'ssh localhost' and see if it works
[06:16] <pyro540> ah, thanks
[06:16] <Tiradin> rococo: I see.... I've just noticed on my PC that USB devices usually don't start up until the OS starts loading.
[06:17] <dr_willis> I think the usb-grub issue is part due to the bios on the mb and some other quirks. :(
[06:17] <Tiradin> I.E. Mouse, etc.
[06:17] <Tom47> Vw1`8t: yes i understand that .... my suggestion is, and especially since you have both and are experiencing the same problem in both, is to seek help with a 32 bit install ... as things stand i suspect people believe you to have a partly installed 64 bit version and will probbaly hesitate to help
[06:17] <OmniD> I'm thinking of just formatting, messing with X has always been a pain when something screws up.
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[06:17] <rococo> Tiradin: well, the mouse isn't supported at all, usb or no, until things start loadng
[06:17] <dr_willis> OmniD,  thats why you backup your xorg.conf :)
[06:17] <OmniD> I doubt it was modified
[06:18] <Tom47> Vw1`8t: i cannot really helpyou directly other than to suggest more productive ways of asking for help sorry
[06:18] <OmniD> Stuff just stops working like this? Come on...
[06:18] <dukens>  gys it about the: gnome-volume-control can you help me please
[06:18] <dr_willis> OmniD,  no idea. i aint been paying attention to your problem.
[06:18] <excalibas> dr_willis, The authenticity of host 'localhost (127.0.0.1)' can't be established.
[06:18] <excalibas> RSA key fingerprint is 05:19:8c:0b:a2:64:2f:4a:17:d5:7b:ce:04:7d:57:a8.
[06:18] <excalibas> Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? y
[06:18] <excalibas> Please type 'yes' or 'no': yes
[06:18] <excalibas> Warning: Permanently added 'localhost' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.
[06:18] <excalibas>  is this normal?
[06:18] <Tiradin> *nod*
[06:18] <OmniD> Well I'll dig it up
[06:18] <harry_> how do I tell nautilus to use an ftp server in ascii mode?
[06:18] <Tiradin> Would anyone be able to help me find appropriate drivers to use my keyboard/moues?
[06:18] <dr_willis> excalibas,  yes. and you may want tor ead a few ssh tutorials.
[06:18] <OmniD> "Can Beryl cause Xserver to not start up anymore? Mind you it does not start up with Beryl enabled at all, yet X refuses to start at boot, and I have no clue how to activate or do anything to it while in the terminal."
[06:18] <OmniD> There you go dr_willis
[06:18] <Tiradin> Keyboard is a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard 1A... mouse is Logitech MX518
[06:19] <Tiradin> I'm looking for hotkey functionality.
[06:19] <dr_willis> OmniD,  i dont mess with beryl - i dont think its ready for mainstream ussage.
[06:19] <Flying-Penguin> dr_willis: Yah I have PS/2 keyboards, but I don't want to have to use it each time I wana windows... my desk is cramped so my keyboard would have to be on the floor =/
[06:19] <excalibas> dr.willis, ok, thanks i will do that
[06:19] <infidel> can some one give a hand, i have a problem after logging in i get an xsession error and it keeps saying windows manager already running
[06:19] <dr_willis> Flying-Penguin,  thats were my mini ps2 keyboard is at. :) i use the arrow keys withmy toes.. to pick the os.
[06:19] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..that happens if you are connecting to a machine that may be on dhcp that changes IP's or if the machine has recently been re-installed..or could be a man-in-the-middle attak
[06:19] <OmniD> dr_willis ah that explains it, but making it to where I cannot boot up? That's quite ridiculous.
[06:20] <OmniD> That's the reason I DIDNT boot up with Beryl
[06:20] <dr_willis> OmniD,  no idea there. you dont even see the boot mnessages eh?
[06:20] <dfwlinuxguy> deleting ~/.ssh/known_hosts should help
[06:20] <pyro540> ok, Im getting the "sudo: /ect/int.d/?dim : Command not found" error
[06:20] <dukens> Hi
[06:20] <dfwlinuxguy> if you are sure that it's not a man-in-the-middle attack
[06:20] <dukens> Please I need your help
[06:20] <pyro540> and I need to kill x so that i can install this driver
[06:20] <OmniD> dr_willis: I do see them actually, it tells me that Cserver cannot start and throws me in without a graphical output
[06:20] <dfwlinuxguy> !ask
[06:20] <Tom47> dukens is there a reason you cannot get help in french?
[06:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:20] <OmniD> Which is annoying because I am quite a newbie
[06:20] <pyro540> is there some way to boot up in shell?
[06:20] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy:  what is that ?
[06:21] <dukens> I got a probleme with my gnome control volume
[06:21] <buenas_werte> pyro540: go to single user mode?
[06:21] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas - what is what?
[06:21] <pyro540> ?
[06:21] <buenas_werte> init level 1
[06:21] <dfwlinuxguy> !ask
[06:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:21] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: man in the middle attack?
[06:21] <pc_> hey dfwlinuxguy, would you mind helping me with another problem I am having.
[06:21] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ sure
[06:21] <pyro540> buenas_werte: not sure what that means
[06:21] <Vw1`8t> Tom47, good news! Booted from Windows with Ubuntu instalation CD...it worked
[06:22] <Tiradin> Keyboard is a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard 1A... mouse is Logitech MX518.... I'm trying to get drivers for functionality
[06:22] <Vw1`8t> i assume windows loaded drivers...
[06:22] <pc_> I am running two monitors, xinerama, I can't get them to both go to the same resoultion of 1280x1024.
[06:22] <buenas_werte> pyro540: init levels are the operational levels of *nix
[06:22] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I am running two monitors, xinerama, I can't get them to both go to the same resoultion of 1280x1024.
[06:22] <rococo> excalibas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_in_the_middle_attack (to save dfwlinuxguy some typing)
[06:22] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas - not an easy thing, but it's when someone intercepts your communication with the server that you think you are trying to connect to and pretends to be that box instead
[06:22] <pyro540> ah
[06:22] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I can paste my xorg.conf now :)
[06:22] <pyro540> buenas_werte: so, how do I go to single user mode?
[06:23] <pyro540> verbose only?
[06:23] <rococo> pc_: make sure you use a pastebin
[06:23] <pyro540> in PHLAK you have to press F2 during startup
[06:23] <pc_> rococo, I know :)
[06:23] <grndslm_> strange thing, that for me, usb keyboards work with ubuntu desktop cd, but not for ubuntu alternate cd..
[06:23] <atlanta800> I'm moving my system to 64bit, and in doing so I want to completely re-install ubuntu. I use nm-applet for all my wireless keys, how can I back them up and get them on my new install?
[06:23] <rococo> pc_: oh, okay. all that log-out-log-in stuff has me paranoid about crazy scrolling, I guess
[06:23] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: wooo you think someone is atacking me?  i think this should be just bad configurations, what should i do?
[06:23] <elryno> What is the best way to find support about a ubuntu 7.04 networkmanager??
[06:23] <pc_> rococo, okay :)
[06:24] <rococo> excalibas: nobody is attacking you
[06:24] <buenas_werte> pyro540 umm try man init
[06:24] <Tiradin> Could anyone help me with drivers?
[06:24] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, I am running two monitors, xinerama, I can't get them to both go to the same resoultion of 1280x1024.
[06:24] <pyro540> buenas_werte: ok
[06:24] <Vanax> how do i check what my computers ip is in terminal
[06:24] <pyro540> buenas_werte: "no manual entry for int"
[06:24] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ does this help? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/dual-monitors-with-nvidia.html
[06:24] <grndslm_> atlanta800:  save everything in your home directory, particularly your hidden files that begin with a . inside your home dir
[06:24] <buenas_werte> pyro540 umm try man init  <-- init
[06:24] <elryno> Vanax: ifconfig
[06:24] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas - not likely
[06:24] <Vanax> thank u
[06:24] <pyro540> buenas_werte: ah
[06:24] <excalibas> rococo, thanks, that is nice to hear :)
[06:25] <rococo> excalibas: ssh just always asks you whether you want to continue when you connect to a new remote machine for the first time. it exchanges encryption keys with that machine for future reference, which makes said attacks virtually impossible instead of ridiculously hard
[06:25] <grndslm_> am i the only one having problems with beagled-helper?!?!?
[06:25] <atlanta800> grndslm_: yeah I got that, are they all saved in there?
[06:25] <dukens> ok tom I cannot find help in french rooms I ganna do my best are you ready to help me
[06:25] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, unfortunately no. See they have to be in Xinerama, cause two cards. There both up and running right now. It is just the resolution thing I can't get it to change.
[06:25] <grndslm_> atlanta800:  every user config file is in a . folder in home dir, yes
[06:25] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas - it's more likely that the machine has changed IP's to an address that you've already connected to or that is has recently been upgraded
[06:25] <bytecolor> pc_, have you set the HorizSync and VerRefesh for the monitors?
[06:26] <pyro540> buenas_werte: that didn't help much
[06:26] <excalibas> so now winscp should work
[06:26] <grndslm_> if you copy the whole home dir, you'll be good...with nautilus, hit CTRL + H to bring up hidden folders
[06:26] <pc_> bytecolor, yep.
[06:26] <elryno> my network manager displays disconnected when I am using vmxnet module, even though my connection is OK.
[06:26] <buenas_werte> pyro540: to tell you of the runlevels? it didnt help?
[06:26] <grndslm_> elryno:  if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
[06:26] <grndslm_> ;-)
[06:26] <pyro540> buenas_werte: well, I dont know how to change it
[06:26] <elryno> network manager seems broke!?
[06:27] <grndslm_> but your connection is ok!?
[06:27] <rococo> excalibas: ssh is so secure that if anyone ever manages to actually break through it to get at you, you've got other problems as you have some powerful enemies ;-)
[06:27] <elryno> yep
[06:27] <inflex> okay, someone good with GFX 3D want to explain this to me... I reinstalled Ubuntu and thought I'd try run my TRON (armagetronad) and WOW, finally, 40fps at 1920x1200 with eerything turned on
[06:27] <grndslm_> then who cares?
[06:27] <Tiradin> Anyone? help? no? :P
[06:27] <buenas_werte> pyro540: it says right there on that man page of init
[06:27] <inflex> yet I run GLX gears and it -sucks-
[06:27] <pyro540> >.<
[06:27] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ under section screen you might try changing Modes  to reflect the resolution you would like
[06:27] <crdlb> inflex, glxgears is not a benchmark
[06:27] <inflex> and before I reinstalled, I could get good GLX gears speeds but armagetronad would barely run at 17fps with all the lowest quality settings
[06:27] <adelie> What are desktop managers? This is not the window manager, right?
[06:27] <dukens> I got a probleme with my gnome control volume every time I clik on it i got this message: the greffon of the volume gstreamer is not installed
[06:27] <inflex> crdlb: I know - but it's at least /partially/ representitive
[06:28] <crdlb> nope
[06:28] <pyro540> buenas_werte: wait, no runlevels
[06:28] <grndslm_> Tiradin:  we don't help people that ask for help instead of asking the real friggin' question!
[06:28] <HKJGN> not at all
[06:28] <dukens> its there the message
[06:28] <crdlb> its value means nothing for actual 3d performance
[06:28] <pyro540> maby if I was using terminal instead of konsole
[06:28] <buenas_werte> pyro540: its there  telinit 1
[06:28] <GeorgeAScott> is there a ubuntu azureus howto.?
[06:28] <elryno> since network manager thinks it is not connected, programs that use its status come up not connected (think GAIM - Pidgin)
[06:28] <HKJGN> inflex:it merely figures out if you have 3d acceleration capability, not how good it is
[06:28] <Ishmael> what is the graphical way to configure X?
[06:28] <inflex> crdlb: well, it's still strange that when one goes well the other doesn't
[06:28] <dfwlinuxguy> rococo...thanks
[06:29] <Tiradin> grndslm_: If you'd scroll up, i've asked my question many times :)
[06:29] <grndslm_> Tiradin:  make me do all the work, why don't ya!
[06:29] <inflex> my question is - "why" then did my previous Ubuntu install have very poor performance in ArmagetronAD ... but now it's GREAT
[06:29] <adelie> how do I get different wallpapers on each workspace?
[06:29] <Tiradin> :P
[06:29] <inflex> both were Feisty 7.04
[06:29] <HKJGN> Ishmael: xconfig in the terminal
[06:29] <crdlb> inflex, what video card?
[06:29] <inflex> (and conversely, previously glx gears ran great (not that I cared) and now it's showing very poor response.
[06:29] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: ?
[06:29] <Tiradin> grndslm_: I'm trying to find drivers for my keyboard and mouse, and I have had no luck.. i'm just wondering if there's a way I can maybe get around it... I want the hotkeys on my keyboard to work, and the extra buttons on my mouse to function.
[06:29] <Ishmael> thanks HKJGN
[06:29] <inflex> crdlb: ATi Radeon 9250 (256MB)
[06:30] <Vanax> lol ati
[06:30] <Ishmael> wait HKJGN command not found
[06:30] <dfwlinuxguy> rococo...the reference to man-in-the-middle..sorry..I'm slow
[06:30] <crdlb> inflex, using the free driver in both cases?
[06:30] <pyro540> buenas_werte: Ooh, I get it. I was using man init not man telinit
[06:30] <HKJGN> Ishmael xorgconf then
[06:30] <Vanax> i have an ati too, i need to throw mine out the window.
[06:30] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: ah. no problem
[06:30] <crdlb> !xconfig | Ishmael
[06:30] <ubotu> Ishmael: To reconfigure your X server, open a console and type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  - To configure only the driver and resolution, type  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh  - See also !FixRes
[06:30] <HKJGN> Ishmael: apperntly i forgot
[06:30] <Tiradin> grndslm_: My keyboard is a Microsoft Multimedia Keyboard 1.0A. The mouse is a Logitech MX518
[06:30] <HKJGN> apparently*
[06:30] <pyro540> buenas_werte: so now I just type "unlevel 1"
[06:30] <inflex> crdlb: afaik, yes :\  any way of determining which is installed?
[06:31] <OmniD> So just to get this straight Beryl is in beta but compiz is very much in normal stage of dev now?
[06:31] <buenas_werte> pyro540: its there         telinit 1
[06:31] <pyro540> buenas_werte: "runlevel 1"
[06:31] <adelie> does ubuntu support having different wallpapers on each workspace?
[06:31] <grndslm_> Tiradin:  my next question...answered already!
[06:31] <pyro540> buenas_werte: I know
[06:31] <Tiradin> :P
[06:31] <crdlb> inflex, the version of fglrx included in feisty doesn't support the 9250 anymore
[06:31] <HKJGN> manual driver install :D
[06:31] <HKJGN> lol
[06:31] <crdlb> so unless you did quite a bit manually, there's no way you're using it
[06:31] <rococo> OmniD: yes. Beryl was an offshoot from Compiz so it's still in development stages. However, Beryl and Compiz are soon going to recombine, so you'll be getting best of both worlds
[06:31] <pyro540> hw do I change to it though?
[06:31] <buenas_werte> pyro540:   telinit 1
[06:31] <grndslm_> Tiradin:  this might help with the extra mouse buttons:  http://othello.alma.edu/~07tmhopk/ubuntuhowto.html#intellimouse
[06:32] <buenas_werte> being root off coruse
[06:32] <dr_willis> adelie,  thats more a feature of the desktop/windowmanager :)
[06:32] <Ishmael> im having trouble with dpkg-reconfigure
[06:32] <grndslm_> Tiradin: might not work...i certainly dunno about the laptop, tho
[06:32] <Ishmael> there was another command to configure X
[06:32] <inflex> crdlb: well, it's all very curious then isn't it
[06:32] <Ishmael> but i cant remember
[06:32] <HKJGN> OmniD: Beryl is the more "pretty" version
[06:32] <dr_willis> adelie,  some of which do support that.
[06:32] <elryno> grndslm_: since network manager thinks it is not connected, programs that use its status come up not connected (think GAIM - Pidgin) and require me to manual set them to connected.
[06:32] <Ishmael> it was gui
[06:32] <OmniD> rococo: How so? As in Beryl won't completely destroy my PC
[06:32] <excalibas> anyone know where to find good tutorials for ssh?
[06:32] <Tiradin> grndslm_: Laptop?
[06:32] <HKJGN> OmniD: also severely unstable XD
[06:32] <inflex> crdlb: I did /try/ to install flgx using the ATi site's driver package.. but it didn't even get started since there was a problem in one of the scripts
[06:33] <gilang> can anyone wake up from suspend?
[06:33] <grndslm_> i can :-P
[06:33] <HKJGN> inflex: betcha it had to do with the X version
[06:33] <OmniD> Oh so even when they merge it will be still in alpha right or they will take the stable parts of the code in Beryl and add it in Compiz?
[06:33] <adelie> beryl has a "Desktop Manager supports viewports" this is false in ubuntu?
[06:33] <inflex>         Identifier      "Generic Video Card"
[06:33] <inflex>         Driver          "ati"
[06:33] <lockd> is there a reason checkinstall balks when make install does "useful" things like compilation (why Mozilla's make install requires this, I do not know)
[06:33] <PurpZeY> crdlb: Side-note...Thanks for the help with the DCC problem earlier.
[06:33] <Tiradin> hmm... that was odd
[06:33] <gilang> grndslm_: how come?
[06:33] <Tiradin> excuse my sudden departure o.O
[06:33] <crdlb> PurpZeY, yw
[06:33] <HKJGN> OmniD: not sure, thats just what i know about beryl
[06:33] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd..using sudo?
[06:33] <inflex> HKJGN: well, I'm not so sure - it barfed because of a script variable (in bash) expansion issue (namely the path)
[06:33] <crdlb> inflex, yes that's the free driver
[06:33] <rococo> OmniD: Well, Compiz runs a lot more smoothly than Beryl, but Beryl has a lot of great features, plus it's more customizable than Compiz (plus it works with more than just Gnome-desktop), so the end result of the merge should be a sleeker version of Beryl's improvements on Compiz
[06:33] <grndslm_> gilang:  i researched before i purchased
[06:34] <HKJGN> adelie: yes, Ubuntu doesnt support viewports
[06:34] <crdlb> inflex, just be happy it decided to work so well :P
[06:34] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: using sudo, or --fstrans, really any options
[06:34] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: I could paste the entirety
[06:34] <HKJGN> inflex: could always use Envy
[06:34] <gilang> so, what kind of suspend software do u use?
[06:34] <inflex> crdlb: just thinking it'll come back later and bite me when I have to do another install :D
[06:34] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd pastebin
[06:34] <inflex> crdlb: then I'll be cussing once more
[06:34] <HKJGN> inflex: installs ATI or Nividia drivers for you
[06:34] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: but then you also need every single perl script
[06:34] <crdlb> !envy
[06:34] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[06:34] <inflex> Anyhow, am very glad that I'm getting 40fps at 1920x1200
[06:35] <inflex> (120fps at 800x600)
[06:35] <HKJGN> dont let it edit xorg.conf
[06:35] <caravel> bye folks
[06:35] <adelie> viewports can only be setup through xorg.conf? multiple now, but... limited use, like beryl is not aware
[06:35] <grndslm_> gilang:  ehh, i don't know jack about it...i just installed ubuntu and suspend worked...i had to mess with networking to get it to resume when resuming from suspend...
[06:35] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: grr, error couldn't write 145 on pastebin
[06:35] <grndslm_> but it just worked, mostly
[06:35] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: i'll have to try around
[06:35] <OmniD> WELP, just as an update I think I'll just reinstall ubuntu completely because of my screwup with Beryl. I didn't have a very good GPU to begin with (Geforce 2 MX) and I have a big feeling in my gut that it was a big part of the problem either that or Beryl really did somehow screw up Xserver permanently
[06:35] <angel> im new in ubuntu or linux environment could you guys suggest any web developing tool like dreamweaver macromedia that i could use in ubuntu
[06:35] <crdlb> adelie, no
[06:36] <adelie> Anyone know if this might be supported in 7.10?
[06:36] <gilang> what laptop do u use?
[06:36] <crdlb> adelie, you didn't read the full option
[06:36] <elryno> has anybody had any trouble with network manager and ubuntu as a vmware host?
[06:36] <crdlb> adelie, "desktop manager supports viewports with different wallpapers"
[06:36] <inflex> well, I'm keeping this copy of xorg.conf :)
[06:36] <Ishmael> my X setting is having problems with xkb
[06:36] <grndslm_> gilang:  portableone sx (rebranded asus z35f )
[06:36] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: http://paste.uni.cc/15967
[06:36] <rococo> OmniD: running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" from command-line didn't help at all?
[06:36] <Ishmael> does anyone know how to fix this
[06:36] <elryno> strike that - vmware guest!
[06:36] <OmniD> angel, I know there is a really good web dev tool I forgot it's name though
[06:36] <crdlb> adelie, which simply means you can't have different wallpapers on each face of the cube
[06:36] <dfwlinuxguy> angel...what exactly do you need from dreamweaver?...does NVU work for you?
[06:36] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...looking
[06:37] <angel> id seen quanta but is the any thing else
[06:37] <OmniD> rococo: What would that do?
[06:37] <HKJGN> crdlb: i used Envy, and i didnt have any trouble :P
[06:37] <crdlb> !worksforme | HKJGN
[06:37] <ubotu> HKJGN: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:37] <crdlb> :P
[06:37] <OmniD> rococo: To be honest I'm just lazy and it was a relatively fresh install to check out Beryl
[06:37] <HKJGN> :P
[06:37] <angel> i've seen NVU but i dont like it
[06:37] <HKJGN> just saying, its an all else fails
[06:37] <rococo> OmniD: it basically runs you through the process of reconfiguring xorg by asking you a lot of questions (and 99 times out of 100 you can just hit enter and default through the ones you to which you don't know the answer)
[06:37] <OmniD> angel: Aww I like NVU even compared to DreamWeaver
[06:37] <angel> i've seen quanta and NVU  is there anything else
[06:37] <adelie> crdlb :( It would be very useful.
[06:37] <HKJGN> Envy /will/ do it, but it tends to ruin the xorg file if you let it modify it
[06:38] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...hummm...looks like you might have hit your inode limit
[06:38] <HKJGN> then boom explosions whooosh!
[06:38] <HKJGN> >.>
[06:38] <angel> OmniD i just see its interface but didnt try it to edit php or index on it
[06:38] <dfwlinuxguy> angel...i've used dreamweaver with crossover successfully..http://www.codeweavers.com
[06:39] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: any way to fix said problem? note this same error happens whether sudo or not, --fstrans or not
[06:39] <HKJGN> crdlb: and that statement refers more to versions than software
[06:39] <HKJGN> :P
[06:39] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: ouch, is there a way to up the limit?
[06:39] <adelie> on a different note, in beryl, is it possible to bring back the "right click move to workspace X" functionality? draging windows to across screen is much less convieniuent
[06:39] <dfwlinuxguy> angel...there is no direct equivilant
[06:39] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: rebuild kernel or anything?
[06:39] <OmniD> angel: The interface is a bit simplified by comparison but I like it, things seem in the right place and all that
[06:39] <pyro540> well, it sorta worked
[06:39] <PurpZeY> adelie: Seems like a lot of this stuff might be better addressed in #beryl...If I am not stepping in the way of some other issue.
[06:39] <angel> okay how can i install it
[06:39] <adelie> multi monitor setup = long distance to "edge og screen"
[06:40] <OmniD> angel: Should be under Synaptic
[06:40] <HKJGN> adelie: PurpZeY is right, #beryl would be a better place, they helped me when i broke beryl :D
[06:40] <adelie> PurpZeY k.. no prob. thanks
[06:40] <Shaddox> Hello everyone.
[06:40] <rococo> adelie: well, Beryl uses viewports instead of workspaces. There might be a way to do it, but it would work pretty different
[06:40] <Shaddox> How would I go about installing the GD image extensions on my Ubuntu Server to incorporate with PHP? I need it for my forum software.
[06:40] <PurpZeY> !hi | Shaddox
[06:40] <ubotu> Shaddox: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:41] <rococo> adelie: the #beryl folks would know for sure, though
[06:41] <angel> where is that OmniD?im still not use to ubuntu
[06:41] <Shaddox> You don't have to say hi, ive been here enough XD
[06:41] <OmniD> Thanks rococo, I think I'll give it a shot, what's the command again?
[06:41] <PurpZeY> Shaddox: It's a bot..;P
[06:41] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: /dev/sdb3            75979392  187264 75792128    1% / that's inodes
[06:41] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...I'm not sure that you can do anything other than back up your data and increase the inode count when creating the filesystem
[06:41] <HKJGN> rococo: unfortunately, Beryl supports veiwports, but only certain linux versions do
[06:41] <pyro540> hey, I need help with installing my Nvidia driver. The dang thing dosen't wanna be installed with a graphical UI, and it dosen't like runlevel 1
[06:41] <rococo> OmniD: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - if it goes wrong the first time, you can pretty much try again as much as you want. but once you find a good one, back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:42] <Shaddox> i know, i was talking to you. ^^
[06:42] <rococo> HKJGN: including Debian/Ubuntu, thankfully!
[06:42] <PurpZeY> Shaddox: I know I know...Bad joke on my part...you say You don't have to say hello...I say, it's a bot...of course you've been here...so you know that...but it really wasn't funny.
[06:42] <gilang> is suspend2 the best solution for suspend?
[06:42] <Tiradin> ahaha... wine is funny when it works.
[06:42] <Tiradin> brb.
[06:42] <OmniD> Thanks again rococo
[06:42] <arcade> Hmf.  HP Omnibook 6100 and Feisty doesn't work well with the 2.6.20 kernel.  Had to use edgy's kernel to get the machine to boot.
[06:43] <HKJGN> rococo: -is confused-
[06:43] <rococo> OmniD: sure
[06:43] <dukens> who can help me please
[06:43] <dukens> ??
[06:43] <angel> where can i get NVU and wine?
[06:43] <Shaddox> yeah, DX
[06:43] <Shaddox> XD*
[06:43] <arcade> Seems to be pretty well documented at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/89892 .. but nobody seems to be working on it?
[06:43] <rococo> HKJGN: Howso? You can totally get viewports working
[06:43] <Shaddox> Anyone know how to set up GD extensions on UbuntuServer?
[06:43] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...ok I'm just googling at this point b/c I've never hit that limit b4
[06:44] <elryno> is there anywhere else to get support? I have tried here and the forums
[06:44] <HKJGN> rococo: i wasnt able to :( they told me that Ubuntu doesnt work with multiple desktop backgrounds and the like
[06:44] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: as I said, df -i says i'm only at 1%
[06:44] <elryno> no luck
[06:44] <dukens>  I got a probleme with my gnome control volume every time I clik on it i got this message: the greffon of the volume gstreamer is not installed
[06:44] <pyro540> mm, that didn't help. it gave me a list of video drivers, and I dont know which on is mine
[06:44] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: it could be a problem with checkinstall's limit, if it makes a virtual file system or something
[06:44] <dr_willis> elryno,  support with what exactly?
[06:45] <elryno> I am trying to sort out a problem with network manager and vmxnet module
[06:45] <elryno> nm shows not connected when the connection IS good
[06:45] <angel> any place where i can get a copy of NVU and Winde
[06:45] <angel> wine
[06:45] <rococo> HKJGN: when I played with that it was in Debian, but there shouldn't be too huge a difference...
[06:45] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: this ssh seem hard to use, there isnt just a simple way to move a file from my xubuntu box to my xp box?
[06:45] <pyro540> angel: I just got it, Ill look up the URL
[06:45] <angel> okay thx
[06:45] <dr_willis> elryno,  sorry i cant help ya - I tend to run andhide from wireless issues. :) (i ran wires)
[06:45] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd..to me it looks like a filesystem problem fsck check?
[06:45] <DARKGuy> angel: wine: http://www.winehq.org ... nvu from its site, type nvu linux in google :P
[06:46] <HKJGN> rococo: if you want to point me in the right direction, go right ahead :P but i was told here that its not possible
[06:46] <elryno> not wireless - its wired
[06:46] <Tiradin> Wow...
[06:46] <Tiradin> i'm actually quite surprised that wine is running mIRC this well.
[06:46] <angel> thx a lot
[06:46] <DARKGuy> Tiradin: it runs NoName script too, surprisingly
[06:46] <HKJGN> lol Tiradin
[06:46] <pyro540> angel: the url is http://www.winehq.org/site/download-deb
[06:46] <dr_willis> Tiradin,  thats.. sick. :)
[06:47] <HKJGN> XD
[06:47] <elryno> since network manager thinks it is not connected, programs that use its status come up not connected (think GAIM - Pidgin) and require me to manual set them to connected.
[06:47] <Tiradin> :P
[06:47] <pyro540> angel: for wine that is
[06:47] <angel> thx pyro540
[06:47] <elryno> dr_willis: the connection is wired
[06:47] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas...simple...hmmmm, samba might seem harder to you. scp from your windows box to the Linux box seems more simple...exactly what is the problem?
[06:47] <dr_willis> elryno,  ok. so if you are wired. why are you using network manager?
[06:48] <rococo> HKJGN: ohh. It isn't possible in GNOME, but it's possible with other desktop managers
[06:48] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: it gets fsck'd every boot, or so I thought
[06:48] <rococo> HKJGN: did you try it using gnome?
[06:48] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...no not every boot
[06:48] <HKJGN> rococo: XD yup, im in Gnome
[06:48] <Tiradin> Woah.
[06:48] <elryno> it shows all network connections and allows configuration
[06:48] <Tiradin> that's really weird... but whatever.
[06:48] <pyro540> could someone help me with Nvidia drivers?
[06:48] <Tiradin> In ANY case.
[06:48] <elryno> some programs get its status to know if net is up/down
[06:48] <DARKGuy> pyro540: what's the prob?
[06:48] <HKJGN> rococo: its ok tho, i like my Bg the way it is
[06:48] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: oh.. well is there a way to have it, because xfs_check won't let me run mounted
[06:48] <Tiradin> [-] pyro540[-]  Nvidia has support for linux, did you try their website?
[06:48] <PurpZeY> pyro540: Describe the issue please?
[06:49] <HKJGN> rococo: any changes would be purely cosmetic, and i dont care that much
[06:49] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas...there is ftp....apache...samba....scp... a lot of different ways...not sure which would be the most simple
[06:49] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: i have done ssh localhost on linux, but i cant ger winspc to login
[06:49] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: er, at least for the next boot, I don't want to have it check every time
[06:49] <Tiradin> haha.... mIRC makes me laugh :P
[06:49] <HKJGN> lol
[06:49] <pyro540> DARKGuy: Well, it wants me to shut down x, but it dosnt like single user mode either
[06:49] <rococo> HKJGN: yeah, multiple backgrounds is overrated. But that's the issue - Linux is Linux, so any linux should support viewports. It's the desktop that runs on top of it you have to worry about
[06:49] <HKJGN> get a room :P
[06:49] <elryno> dr_willis: does yours show connected or not?
[06:49] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas...apt-get install openssh-server
[06:49] <HKJGN> rococo: well, thats true of all software compatability
[06:49] <PurpZeY> Is there a way to setup a local file server to a particular dir, that XP and Ubuntu can access?
[06:49] <pyro540> I try to install it with "sudo -i, sh filename.run"
[06:49] <Tiradin> Can someone rhyme off a few IRC clients for linux that would have a similar GUI to mIRC?
[06:49] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: did that
[06:50] <HKJGN> im lazy, i just use Xchat
[06:50] <HKJGN> XD
[06:50] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: ouch, didn't see this: fatal error -- couldn't initialize XFS library
[06:50] <DARKGuy> pyro540: huh, it should be installed with "chmod +x NVIDIA-whatever.run" then "sudo ./NVIDIA-whatever.run"
[06:50] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas../etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:50] <Tiradin> lol...
[06:50] <pyro540> Triadin: I use Giam
[06:50] <HKJGN> yeah, pidgin
[06:50] <beford> Tiradin, Whats wrong with xchat?
[06:50] <rococo> !SMB | PurpZeY
[06:50] <ubotu> PurpZeY: samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:50] <Tiradin> [-] pyro540[-]  That's what i've been using.... personally I find it annoying.
[06:50] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd ...that might be your problem
[06:50] <HKJGN> xchat - ftw
[06:50] <pyro540> DARKGuy: huh, I just did what their website told me to do
[06:50] <Tiradin> [-] beford[-]  nothing, just seeing if there's somethign closer to what i'm used to.
[06:50] <Tru7h> Okay, I was using the partitioner thing earlier to try and get an ext3 and linux-swap partitions to install ubuntu on, and iI was going to boot windows and work on Ubuntu in the morning, but when I try and boot from my main hard drive it says "0 active partitions. Press F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup." What do I do to make my main partition work again?
[06:50] <PurpZeY> rococo: gracias.
[06:50] <rococo> PurpZeY: sure
[06:51] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: unfortunately the one or two pages that mention fixes are in russian
[06:51] <dom> does anyone know how to setup the SVN apache module?
[06:51] <Tiradin> brb, shutting down wine.
[06:51] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: ftp seems simple, downloading files from the net from ftp is very easy, i dont know why it is so har to do it from the same room...
[06:51] <pyro540> Tridan or you could use wine and actually use mIRC
[06:51] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...it seems to be a filesystem error
[06:51] <DARKGuy> pyro540: Huh, I haven't checked their directions in so long... in Ubuntu you install the drivers that way anyways
[06:51] <DARKGuy> pyro540: and any .run/.bin file too
[06:51] <mobutu> what do i run after updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[06:51] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..well...it would mean setting up an ftp server on your linux box....I use vsftp
[06:52] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: well, is there a way to repair it besides the old way of backup and copy?
[06:52] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..setting up the server is a little more complicated than just using ftp to download the files
[06:52] <elryno> ...and so I pose my question again ... is there anywhere else to get support? I have tried here and the forums
[06:53] <grndslm_> mobutu: grub-install?
[06:53] <Tru7h> Okay, I was using the partitioner thing earlier to try and get an ext3 and linux-swap partitions to install ubuntu on, and I was going to boot windows and work on Ubuntu in the morning, but when I try and boot without the LiveCD in it says "0 active partitions. Press F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup." What do I do to make my main partition work again?
[06:53] <grndslm_> dunno for sure, tho
[06:53] <pyro540> DARKGuy: It does the same thing either way
[06:53] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy: yes, i am sure it it... i will try this ssh first ;)
[06:53] <dr_willis> excalibas,  you have reminded me of why i dont want to mess with vista. :)
[06:53] <PurpZeY> elryno: Google, or hope that someone pops in that can address your issue
[06:53] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd....have to plead ignorance on xfs..but it seems that is the case w/ ext3...changing the inodes available doesn't seem to me something you can do from /proc
[06:53] <n2diy> elryno: I just logged in, what is the question?
[06:53] <DARKGuy> pyro540: any error messages? what does it say or do?
[06:53] <pyro540> DARKGuy: one sec
[06:53] <mkquist> anyone aware of problems withe the nvidia driver?  Installed ubuntu like a month ago and beryl worked great easily, now whenever is goto install nvidia driver i get stuck at 800x600?
[06:53] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd....that sucks I know
[06:53] <elryno> I am trying to sort out a problem with network manager and vmxnet module
[06:54] <elryno> nm shows not connected when the connection IS good
[06:54] <DARKGuy> mkquist: tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" to set your res?
[06:54] <pyro540> DARKGuy: "You appear to be running an x server. Please exit x before installing"
[06:54] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: i have doubts it has to do with inode
[06:54] <Tiradin> Hmm
[06:54] <elryno> this is a WIRED connection
[06:54] <excalibas> dr_willis, it is not vista, it is xp, and i juse it because i cant get the software i need no work on linux  yet
[06:54] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: i trust df to at least give within 50% error
[06:54] <n2diy> elryno: not familiar with vmxnet, sorry
[06:54] <Tiradin> only problem I have with Xchat is the format, but that's easily fixed.
[06:54] <Tiradin> sweet
[06:54] <mkquist> DARKGuy - yep, didnt do anything, just reinstalled , again! (3rd time, faster than fixing)
[06:54] <elryno> it is vmware's network module
[06:55] <elryno> from vmware tools
[06:55] <DARKGuy> pyro540: duh, you gotta do that through the terminals outside X (control+alt+f1)... switch to one, login then run "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop", then run the nvidia installer again the same way
[06:55] <dr_willis> excalibas,  ok - earlier i though you said you were on vista.   Hmm ssh still aint working with winscp eh?
[06:55] <rococo> Tiradin: any luck with the WoW in wine thing? That was you, right?
[06:55] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd ...everything looks ok until #
[06:55] <dfwlinuxguy> /bin/pwd: couldn't find directory entry in `../../../../../../../..' with matching i-node
[06:55] <pyro540> DARKGuy: ok
[06:55] <Tru7h> I was using the Gnome Partitioner earlier to try and get an ext3 and linux-swap partitions to install ubuntu on, and I was going to boot windows and work on installing Ubuntu in the morning, but when I try and boot without the LiveCD in it says "0 active partitions. Press F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup." What do I do to make my WIndows partition work again?
[06:55] <DARKGuy> pyro540: be sure to get gdm started again
[06:55] <ivan> quick question.. ubuntu is based on debian correct? so why would one use ubuntu vs deb?
[06:55] <DARKGuy> pyro540: with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[06:55] <pyro540> gdm?
[06:55] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...that seems filesystem related to me
[06:55] <pyro540> ok
[06:55] <dfwlinuxguy> ????
[06:55] <mkquist> Tru7h - u can do that w/gnome partitioner
[06:55] <rococo> elryno: I haven't done anything vmware-related, you might have better luck asking at less ubuntu-specific places. http://www.linuxquestions.org is pretty nice
[06:55] <DARKGuy> pyro540: the login manager, that pretty thing you see that asks your user and password :P
[06:55] <pyro540> gotta write this down
[06:56] <PurpZeY> ivan: B/C Ubuntu "just works"
[06:56] <dr_willis> ivan,  lots and lots of 'polish' :)
[06:56] <ivan> oh hehe
[06:56] <DARKGuy> mkquist: huh, tried adding the resolutions manually editing the xorg.conf file?
[06:56] <Tru7h> mkquist: Okay, but what do I do to fix it?
[06:56] <mkquist> Tru7h - just boot to live cd, open the partitioner and manage flags
[06:56] <ivan> hey dr_willis know if it supports HP DV6000t laptop?
[06:56] <elryno> ok, thanks
[06:56] <HKJGN> mooo
[06:56] <mkquist> Tru7h - thats how.. =)
[06:56] <elryno> I'm off to look for support elsewhere...
[06:56] <Tru7h> mkquist: Okay, I'll try that. Thanks
[06:56] <dr_willis> ivan,  i know theres a ubuntu laptop forum :)
[06:57] <dfwlinuxguy> what's wrong elryno?
[06:57] <ivan> can you point me to it please :)?
[06:57] <dr_willis> ivan,  i also know that ubuntu has worked better on my laptops then any other disrto ive tried.
[06:57] <ivan> ahh nice
[06:57] <ivan> which do you own??
[06:57] <dr_willis> google  for ubuntu laptop
[06:57] <dr_willis> :)
[06:57] <mkquist> DARGuy - the resolutions shows up and is checked when i run the configure, but it just wont let me pick it? and beryl runs lousy too, ran great before.
[06:57] <mrynit> dr_willis, what laptop you got?
[06:57] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: I researched it a bit, and yes it's just balking because the disk is mounted
[06:57] <Tru7h> OOohhhhhh S#!%!!!
[06:57] <dr_willis> compaq 2100
[06:57] <mrynit> is that a good one?
[06:57] <mrynit> specs wise
[06:57] <PurpZeY> ivan: From a quick view of the forum, it seems like it should...but you should do a bit more research.
[06:57] <ivan> oh heh
[06:57] <mkquist> Darkguy - sry mistyped
[06:58] <dr_willis> got a new $350 laptop the other day also. not  tried linux on it yet.
[06:58] <Tru7h> The partitioner shows nothing but 80 GBs or unaccolated space
[06:58] <ivan> PurpZeY thanks
[06:58] <dr_willis> mrynit,  its a year+ old $400 laptop :)
[06:58] <mkquist> Tru7h, look up in right corner make sure ur looking at right disk
[06:58] <mrynit> hmm i need a lapy
[06:58] <DARKGuy> mkquist: try the reconfigure command again, and only choose the highest resolution you want. You might also want to check the xorg.conf file in the Device section to see if the Driver is "nvidia" not "nv" or "vesa"
[06:58] <Tru7h> Yeah
[06:58] <Tru7h> I am
[06:58] <Tru7h> Damn
[06:58] <ivan> dr_willis nice.. alot of cmdl work?
[06:58] <mrynit> term?
[06:58] <dr_willis> ivan,  not a lot of anything really :)
[06:59] <mrynit> *nix terminal win command line ?
[06:59] <dr_willis> Lots of Frozenbubble mainly
[06:59] <samsm> What determines the permissions of a new /home/user directory?
[06:59] <samsm> Essentially I want to do useradd -m whoever and have /home/whoever be 700.
[06:59] <mkquist> Tru7h - so u have no partitions set?
[06:59] <nsap> i used the alternate txt installer like i was suggested and ubuntu says it has installed however when i go to load ubuntu the loading bar comes up and it freezes about 1/4 of the way through
[06:59] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd....sorry.."baulking because the disk is mounted?"
[06:59] <dr_willis> nsap,  i think you can hit esc, or f2 to see theconsole messaghes
[07:00] <piedoggie> looking for a place to get lomount.  package searches don't yield anythong for dapper
[07:00] <nsap> hmm ok lemme try that
[07:00] <Tiradin> hum.
[07:00] <mkquist> DARKGuy: u know it works fine until i install the nvidia drivers...
[07:00] <firefly2442> How do I check to see if proftpd is running under xinetd?
[07:00] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: as in, the disk is mounted so it refuses to work
[07:00] <DARKGuy> mkquist: do the drivers say anything weird? or just plain install without errors?
[07:01] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, i dont understand /etc/init.d/ssh start should i go to /etc/init.d/    and write ssh start?
[07:01] <mkquist> DARKGuy: no Beryl but.. it works, nope just plain install no probs, what strange is this was all working fine and easy before
[07:01] <dfwlinuxguy> lockd...you are trying to compile this on an external hd?
[07:01] <DARKGuy> mkquist: what version did you had before, and what's your card?
[07:02] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..open terminal...sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:02] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: no
[07:02] <mkquist> DARKGuy: getting tired of reinstalling it all, i mean its quick but id like to just get it running again.. =(
[07:02] <mkquist> DARKGuy: fawn, 6800gt
[07:02] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: excalibas if it's the ssh erver you're talking about, then you want it to say sshd instead of ssh
[07:02] <DARKGuy> mkquist: try installing an older nvidia driver to see if that helps
[07:03] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: my entire system is just one root fs
[07:03] <mkquist> DARKGuy: like d/l from nvidia site?
[07:03] <lockd> dfwlinuxguy: well, i have /boot separate
[07:03] <DARKGuy> mkquist: and... are you using the nvidia official driver or just the ubuntu ones through the restricted manager o.O?
[07:03] <Tom47> dukens try this url https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/1834
[07:03] <DARKGuy> mkquist: yeah, those are the ones that work
[07:03] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy, excalibas actually... I'm wrong. IGNORE ME
[07:03] <mkquist> DARKGuy: just checked the box, worked before
[07:03] <mkquist> DARKGuy: in restricted driver
[07:04] <dfwlinuxguy> rococo seems that it was sshd in the past
[07:04] <nsap> pressng f2 or esc did not work
[07:04] <dfwlinuxguy> rococo only ssh in feisty
[07:04] <DARKGuy> mkquist: try removing that (I dunno how, never used it) and install the nvidia official driver
[07:04] <pyro541> DARKGuy: didnt do a thing different
[07:04] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, fail
[07:04] <dfwlinuxguy> guess lockd gave up
[07:04] <pyro541> DARKGuy: I got the same error
[07:04] <DARKGuy> pyro541: but you should have 3D acceleration now
[07:04] <rococo> excalibas: did you do it as sudo?
[07:04] <DARKGuy> pyro541: huh
[07:04] <excalibas> yes
[07:04] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..need more than fail
[07:04] <DARKGuy> pyro541: the nvidia installer made a kernel module and all?
[07:04] <mkquist> nsap - u can edit the start up menu and get rid of quiet splash (i think thats what it says) everything after ro in the line
[07:05] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.you can't use scp unless ssh server is up
[07:05] <mkquist> nsap - and see the start up messages
[07:05] <pyro541> DARKGuy: yah
[07:05] <sdf> from synamptic i install ruby book but i can t find it in application and system where can i found it or from terminal what can i write to find it?
[07:05] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: that makes me feel better. plus I think it's still sshd in Debian, which I use the other half the time
[07:05] <excalibas> * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[07:05] <nsap> ok
[07:05] <Tiradin> Anyone know how to further change the colour scheme in Xchat?
[07:05] <n2diy> sdf: locate ruby
[07:05] <DARKGuy> pyro541: try pastebin-ing your /var/log/Xorg.log file so I can see what's wrong?
[07:05] <pyro541> DARKGuy: I guess I could try running the game now...
[07:05] <mkquist> nsap - or you can run live cd and check the logs to see whats going on
[07:05] <DARKGuy> pyro541: without X how would you? o.O
[07:05] <dr_willis> sdf,  i thought ruby was a compiler/command just like perl and python. no icon.  - 'ruby' from the teminal dont work?
[07:05] <dfwlinuxguy> rococo yeah, try going from freebsd to all the different linux'es...hard to keep up
[07:06] <dr_willis> !find ruby
[07:06] <ubotu> Found: libruby1.8, libruby1.8-dbg, libsvn-ruby, libsvn-ruby1.8, ruby (and 301 others)
[07:06] <pyro541> no, I still have x
[07:06] <rococo> I can imagine
[07:06] <DARKGuy> pyro541: oh
[07:06] <megatron> sup
[07:06] <pyro541> DARKGuy: heh, sorry for the confusion
[07:06] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, * Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server...                               [fail] 
[07:06] <Toma-> How do you change the splash theme in gnome?
[07:06] <megatron> sup people
[07:06] <DARKGuy> pyro541: you can give it a try, or run "glxinfo | grep 'render' "... if that shows up as "Direct rendering: Yes" then you got it right :3
[07:06] <sdf> dr_willis  has ruby ide like python?
[07:06] <dr_willis> sdf,  proberly.
[07:06] <dr_willis> sdf,  but ive never used it
[07:06] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..ok..is there more in /var/log/syslog?
[07:07] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..ok..that is why you can't scp
[07:07] <sdf> dr_willies i downloaded mondrian-v1.0beta8 but i can t install it
[07:07] <dr_willis> sdf,  never heard of it..  check their install docs?  whats the full file name?
[07:07] <Tiradin> Who was it that said they use Xchat?
[07:07] <DARKGuy> ubotu uses Xchat ;)
[07:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uses xchat ;) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, that is the only line when i try sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[07:08] <Toma-> Tiradin: 90% of the people here, id say
[07:08] <Tru7h> How the h3--
[07:08] <Tru7h> My external drive is wiped!!
[07:08] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..you might try deleting /etc/ssh (rm -rf /etc/ssh; mkdir /etc/ssh) then try again
[07:08] <Tiradin> lol  well then SOMEONE in here should know how I can get access to the full colour scheme
[07:08] <Tru7h> I didn't even touch it
[07:08] <DARKGuy> ouch
[07:08] <Tiradin> and how to change it.
[07:08] <rococo> Tiradin: I alternate between xchat and riece (which is an emacs extension that does IRC)
[07:08] <Tru7h> that has my backups
[07:08] <Tru7h> I lost everything
[07:08] <Tru7h> this sucks
[07:08] <Tru7h> noo
[07:08] <Tru7h> omg
[07:08] <sdf> dr_willis http://www.mondrian-ide.com/download.html
[07:08] <dr_willis> excalibas,  i tink its  'sshd start'
[07:08] <idefixx> Tiradin: i dont.. in any case there a some themes on the homepage somewhere.
[07:08] <beford> Tiradin, try changing the layout, View -> Layout -> Tabs it'll look more like mirc that way.
[07:08] <Toma-> Tiradin: Settings > Prefs > Colours?
[07:09] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..DONT DO THAT
[07:09] <Tiradin> Toma: already done... not extensive enough :/
[07:09] <Toma-> Tru7h: wha did you do?
[07:09] <idefixx> Tiradin: google it .. take a look at the official forum and from there on you'll find some links.
[07:09] <Tiradin> idefixx: good advice, thank you...
[07:09] <idefixx> Tiradin: that how i found it a few years ago :)
[07:09] <sdf> dr_willis did you enter the link?
[07:09] <pyro541> DARKGuy: yah, no
[07:09] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, dont do what? the remove thging?
[07:09] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..save ssh_config and sshd_config first
[07:09] <Tiradin> :P
[07:09] <pyro541> DARKGuy: it still dont like my drivers
[07:09] <Tru7h> I was trying to partition my 80gb internal drive to install ubuntu
[07:10] <dr_willis> sdf,  nope. :)
[07:10] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..save then put them back in /etc/ssh after you recreate it
[07:10] <Tiradin> idefixx: How about minimizing Xchat off my bottom panel? :P
[07:10] <DARKGuy> pyro541: huh, what's your nvidia card?
[07:10] <sdf> dr_willis  do you program with ruby?
[07:10] <Tru7h> after I tried to add an ext3 and linux-swap under an extended partition it gave me an error and told me to restart
[07:10] <dr_willis> sdf,  I tend to use perl and my programing tends tobe like 30 line scripyts at the most
[07:10] <mkquist> DARKGuy: where would i manually edit the config - if you will
[07:10] <Tru7h> well, I did and I figured I'd just boot to windows and work on installing Ubunut in the morning
[07:10] <nsap> ok i removed the splash screen it gets to about the 4th loading step (loading hardware) i believe and then a very long error message pops us before it freezes
[07:10] <pyro541> DARKGuy: and I got a 'no' I have a Geforce 4
[07:10] <DARKGuy> sdf: I used to
[07:10] <Tru7h> but it said 0 active partitions
[07:10] <mkquist> DARKGuy: which file?
[07:10] <Tru7h> so I booted up Ubuntu
[07:10] <dr_willis> sdf,  i dont need ide's for that. There are several general language ides out however.
[07:10] <idefixx> Tiradin: do you mean the tray?
[07:10] <pygresql> how do i install symfony php5 on my ubuntu?
[07:10] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..it won't recreate those files unless you do apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; apt-get install openssh-server
[07:10] <DARKGuy> mkquist: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:10] <DARKGuy> mkquist: edit it with sudo
[07:10] <mkquist> DARKGuy:  ty
[07:10] <Tru7h> and according to GNOME Partitioner
[07:10] <pygresql> hello
[07:11] <DARKGuy> mkquist: er, sudo nano, or gksudo gedit
[07:11] <Tru7h> both my internal drive
[07:11] <pyro541> DARKGuy: the damn thing works fine for the same game under windows
[07:11] <pygresql> anybody help me
[07:11] <DARKGuy> pyro541: GeForce4 Ti 4200?
[07:11] <Tiradin> idefixx: most likely... the Xchat icon is already in the top right panel... i want to minimize it OFF the bottom panel, so it's only up there :P
[07:11] <Tru7h> and my external drive (which I didn't even touch) are nothing but unaccolated space
[07:11] <pyro541> DARKGuy: something like that
[07:11] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..just follow what I just said if you already deleted the dir
[07:11] <Tru7h> I'm crushed
[07:11] <sdf> DARKGUY how can i install ide for ruby?
[07:11] <pyro541> DARKGuy: it was a stock card, so Im not sure
[07:11] <Tru7h> I backed up my c: drive
[07:11] <Tru7h> on my external drive
[07:11] <DARKGuy> pyro541: get the nVIDIA 9631 driver... newer drivers won't work for it, I have one like that
[07:11] <Tru7h> I thought I was prepared
[07:11] <Tru7h> but it wiped that outntoo
[07:11] <Tru7h> how
[07:11] <pyro541> DARKGuy: and I dont feel like digging around in my box right after I got everything working
[07:11] <DARKGuy> pyro541: from the same site, go to the linux driver archive :P
[07:11] <Toma-> Tru7h: try running 'sudo fdisk /dev/sda' or whatever dev entry you external hardrive is
[07:12] <DARKGuy> pyro541: that's ok :P
[07:12] <pyro541> DARKGuy: well, I have 9639
[07:12] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..that should get ssh to start
[07:12] <excalibas> dlflinuxguy, now i am completely lost, sould i do rm -rf /etc/ssh; mkdir /etc/ssh?
[07:12] <DARKGuy> pyro541: try with 9631, those are the latest for this card IIRC, newer don't seem to work :(
[07:12] <idefixx> Tiradin: hmm afaik know that should be standard behaviour as of feisty. are you on feisty?
[07:12] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.. apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; apt-get install openssh-server
[07:12] <mark_> Does anybody have experience with getting the Turtle Beach Advanced Audio Micro USB sound card working in Feisty?
[07:12] <pyro541> DARKGuy: gahh, stupid confusing numbers >.<
[07:12] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas..sorry for the confusion
[07:12] <stmiller> 887 users in #gentoo, 678 in #debian. 1029 in #ubuntu !
[07:12] <DARKGuy> pyro541: huh? o.o
[07:13] <idefixx> Tiradin: did you click on the tray icon? (top right) and not just minimize it?
[07:13] <DARKGuy> stmiller: yay
[07:13] <nsap> can anyone help me? ubuntu is not booting
[07:13] <Tru7h> Toma: It says "The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 9726.
[07:13] <Tru7h> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[07:13] <Tru7h> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[07:13] <Tru7h> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[07:13] <Tru7h> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
[07:13] <Tru7h>    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
[07:13] <Tru7h> Warning: invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 5 will be corrected by w(rite)
[07:13] <Tru7h> "
[07:13] <DARKGuy> ahhhh
[07:13] <Tru7h> DOes that atleast mean it's not wiped??
[07:13] <n2diy> stmiller: what about slackware?
[07:13] <DARKGuy> !pastebin | Tru7h
[07:13] <ubotu> Tru7h: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:13] <Tiradin> idefixx: if feisty is Ubuntu 7.04 or which
[07:13] <Tiradin> whichever*
[07:13] <idefixx> !paste | Tru7h
[07:13] <Tru7h> Sorry
[07:13] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.. apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; apt-get install openssh-server <<<<just do this and that should fix you up
[07:13] <Tiradin> idefixx: clicking the Xchat icon does work.. i didn't know that
[07:13] <stmiller> 237 users in #slackware
[07:13] <Toma-> Tru7h: yeh. try hitting w and cross your fingers...
[07:14] <idefixx> Tiradin: :)
[07:14] <n2diy> stmiller: roger that, are the active or quite?
[07:14] <Tru7h> hitting w?
[07:14] <dr_willis> Tru7h,  i saw a similer error to that on my NDAS hard drive the other day
[07:14] <mkquist> Tru7h - how old is ur system?
[07:14] <pyro541> DARKGuy: how do I kill a wayward process in linux?
[07:14] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, no problem for the confusion, i have been confused for hours i am very glad i am getting some help :)
[07:14] <mark_> All: I need help with a USB audio device.  I can get sound when I test it in the sound preferences but when I play any kind of video, nothing
[07:14] <Tru7h> About one or two years old
[07:14] <Tru7h> mkquist ^
[07:14] <pyro541> DARKGuy: firefox is acting up
[07:14] <mkquist> Tru7h: well then its not really old
[07:14] <stmiller> those are just total number of users in the channel
[07:14] <DARKGuy> pyro541: look at the list with "ps -ax" then kill it by its id with "kill xxxx" <- where xxxx is the process ID
[07:15] <dfwlinuxguy> brb
[07:15] <pyro541> ok
[07:15] <yobrien> pyro541: system->admin->system monitor
[07:15] <Tru7h> mkquist | Toma | dr_willis Is my drive wiped?
[07:15] <DARKGuy> pyro541: if it doesn't work, then "kill -9 xxxx" .... though this isn't a very elegant way of killing things as it's something like forcing it, it works most of the time :P
[07:15] <Toma-> Tru7h: no. your patition tables are screwed
[07:15] <Toma-> *partition
[07:15] <dr_willis> Tru7h,  not sure.. i just happend to get a similer error as that on my network-hard-disk i bought last week..
[07:15] <mkquist> Tru7h - can you see anything in live cd? or can you make any partitions?
[07:16] <DARKGuy> pyro541: that's 'cause you clicked the button when downloading the driver, try right-clicking it and choose Save Link As :)
[07:16] <n2diy> stmiller: ok, I'll check it out, a guy on my local lug told me there was better support for slack, then there was for ubunutu
[07:16] <Tiradin> idefixx: AHAH! i have to do the colour in CODE
[07:16] <mkquist> Tru7h: might be time to d/l some hd testing tools from it maker then and see if its given up on you? any idea what type of drive?
[07:16] <Tru7h> mkquist: The partitioner says that both of my drives are nothing but onaccolated space, and I can't check it otherwise because nautilus crashes
[07:17] <pyro541> DARKGuy: no, it was that when I restarted the GUI, firefox froze or somehting
[07:17] <mkquist> Tru7h: can you make any partitions? or do you have data that *might* get lost?
[07:17] <DARKGuy> pyro541: crazy, could you kill it?
[07:17] <dr_willis> n2diy,  i found support for slack - to be lacking compared to ubuntu.
[07:17] <pyro541> DARKGuy: yah
[07:17] <idefixx> Tiradin: i think, its been a long time since i used xchat.. i know there a some theme files... that essentialy just set colors in a script.
[07:17] <randoman_> hey guys quick question, during the installation process of ubuntu live cd, it reboots all of a sudden around 60 -70 % anyy ideas on this?
[07:17] <yobrien> dr_willis: are you talking about slackware?
[07:17] <DARKGuy> pyro541: good :) get the 9631 driver, kill X and install the driver then try to come back :)
[07:17] <sdf> i want install ide for ruby ??
[07:18] <dawn_chorus> randoman_, no messages or anything?
[07:18] <randoman_> this is on a emachine celeron 2.0 ghz with 384k memory
[07:18] <mkquist> randoman - did you check the disk to make sure its a good d/l burn?
[07:18] <randoman_> not that we notice
[07:18] <n2diy> dr_willis: roger that, which is what I suspected, but this guy insists slack is the way to go for newbies, not.
[07:18] <randoman_> yeah its a good burn
[07:18] <DARKGuy> sdf: there isn't any IDE for ruby. Ruby has no IDE... all you can do is to use Glade, and find a tutorial on google on how to implement Glade windows into Ruby
[07:18] <Tru7h> mkquist: I dont really know. I just know that my computer wont boot windows and the partitioner says both my drives are unaccolated space
[07:18] <yobrien> 384k ... min for linux is 4mb
[07:18] <randoman_> iinstalled it on my dell
[07:18] <dr_willis> n2diy,  id def. have to say Ubuntu for Newbies
[07:18] <randoman_> and have beryl working on that system
[07:18] <Tru7h> I'm also tired and really freaked out
[07:18] <randoman_> it jsut does this on this sytem
[07:18] <dr_willis> n2diy,  that Slax Live cd is darn handy however. :)
[07:18] <mkquist> Tru7h: well you could try making a partition w/live cd and see if it takes
[07:18] <pyro541> DARKGuy: kk
[07:19] <n2diy> dr_willis: roger that, and that is what i'm doing.
[07:19] <edd> randoman i think u have to check your internet connection
[07:19] <Tiradin> idefixx: I just confirmed it... if you go to "text events" in the Settings > Advanced, it gives you all the events colour coded.... the codes correspond to the colours in Preferences > Colors
[07:19] <pyro541> DARKGuy: idk why they have drivers on their sites that dont work
[07:19] <randoman_> humm really
[07:19] <chillax> hey noobs
[07:19] <DARKGuy> pyro541: let it edit the Xorg.conf too, when asked
[07:19] <sdf> DARKRGUY  http://www.mondrian-ide.com/download.html   CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IS THIS?
[07:19] <n2diy> dr_willis: as handy as knoppix?
[07:19] <randoman_> why would that cause it to reboot?
[07:19] <DARKGuy> pyro541: lol, it's not that... it's just that our card is too old xD
[07:19] <Tru7h> mkquist: Will my stuff be on it? Because right now my only concern is getting my stuff back.
[07:19] <DARKGuy> sdf: I can read lowercase too ^^ lemme see
[07:19] <mkquist> Tru7h: well, right now it doesnt sound like it... =(
[07:19] <edd> coz it always depends onthe package from ubuntu database on the net
[07:20] <randoman_> oh so your saying its losing connection with the db
[07:20] <sdf> DARKGUY WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
[07:20] <yobrien> CAPSLOCK
[07:20] <Lilacor> sdf: it's a developer program
[07:20] <Lilacor> sdf: for developing programs in ruby
[07:20] <sdf> ok
[07:20] <randoman_> we even downloaded the txt based cd and its doing the same thing
[07:20] <mkquist> Tru7h: but if its a failing drive you might be able to let it cool off and access it later, they usually get a bit dodgy before they totally die, though not always, if thats it
[07:20] <Tru7h> mkquist: D@mn.... What about one of those data recovery things?
[07:20] <DARKGuy> sdf: Huh, I wish I could've found something like that in the past XD... it's an ide for Ruby, yes o.o
[07:20] <DARKGuy> sdf: then get it :P
[07:21] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.. ok...sorry this is so complicated...did you do my last?
[07:21] <pyro542> DARKGuy: nope, didnt work
[07:21] <Tru7h> mkquist: I dont think the drive itself has failed or anything. I think I messed something up in the partitioner, but I dont really know.
[07:21] <stmiller> anyone use mt-daap? On a server? Since upgrading to iTunes 7.2 on my OS X box it cannot connect to my mt-daap
[07:21] <randoman_> ok my buddy just told me that it begins to install the base syystem , then it begins to install the packages it gets to 3% and reboots
[07:21] <DARKGuy> pyro542: any errors or anything? what does /var/log/Xorg.log shows? can you pastebin it
[07:21] <DARKGuy> ?
[07:21] <mkquist> Tru7h: what did u do?
[07:21] <sdf> DARKGUY hehe
[07:21] <pyro542> DARKGuy: how do I do that?
[07:21] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.. apt-get --purge remove openssh-server; apt-get install openssh-server <<<<just do this and that should fix you up
[07:21] <sdf> DARKGUY sorry if i annoy you
[07:22] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.. should start after this...you can use netstat -a to confirm
[07:22] <Tiradin> That should do something.
[07:22] <Tiradin> HEY
[07:22] <DARKGuy> pyro542: read the file "gedit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and paste its content in what ubotu will say
[07:22] <DARKGuy> !pastebin
[07:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:22] <Tiradin> i can see what i'm typing now... haha... i'm figuring things out! I feel smart.
[07:22] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, yes, just finished, now is /etc/init.d/ssh start?
[07:22] <dudubs> how i cancel the login screen and set it to default user in ubuntu?
[07:22] <randoman_> so it sounds like the installation is losing connection with the db causing it to reboot?
[07:22] <DARKGuy> sdf: that's ok :P
[07:22] <sdf> ok
[07:23] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.. it should be started...netstat -a | grep ssh should show LISTEN
[07:23] <kadaz> YAH
[07:23] <n2diy> Tiradin: :)
[07:23] <kadaz> got it working !!
[07:23] <yobrien> dudubs: system->admin->login window
[07:23] <anon2000> hi, i am interested in creating a shared partition between windows and linux for storing music/etc but im not sure what file system to use on the partition? i have run into problems with ntfs writing with linux and fat32 has the 4gb file limit, so i think ill try either ext2 or ext3 (with ext2 IFS driver for windows) though i'm not sure which one to use. is ext3 preferable to ext2?
[07:23] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ok
[07:23] <dudubs> thanks
[07:23] <edd> randoman, i think there's a problem in your Ubuntu CD, did you check md5sum files? after you downloaded it?
[07:23] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.once ssh server is up..you can use scp to transfer the files
[07:24] <randoman_> ive used the same cd to install it onto another computer lastnight
[07:24] <stmiller> anon2000: there is a good ext3 driver for windows out there somewhere
[07:24] <randoman_> flawless
[07:24] <Ayabara> How can I make firefox use mplayer or vlc plugin instead of totem? I installed the plugins and thought/hoped it should happen automatically.
[07:24] <kadaz> thx clearzne pepo and hmm
[07:24] <n2diy> anon2000: yes ext3 seems to be the default linux fs now.
[07:24] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, it says listen, will try now scp
[07:24] <stmiller> ext3 is journaled, is the main difference. Better
[07:24] <Tru7h> mkquist: I dont know. In a nutshell everythign I remember doing is resizing my NTFS partition (with windows on it) and creating an ext3 partition. Then I fond out that I oculdn't create a linux-swap partition because I had 4 already, so I deleted the ext3 and replaced it with an extended partition and tried to put an ext3 and linux swap in that. It gave me an error that said ubuntu wouldn't know what it wass unless I rebooted (or something 
[07:24] <DARKGuy> anon2000: ext3 is the way to go, at least for me. I haven't done anything similar but I've used extfs to get some files from my Ubuntu partition... thing is when you reboot into Ubuntu again, it will complain about file dates/sizes/etc and might do a small fsck, but it works nonetheless, it's just a sync error :P
[07:24] <Tiradin> ah.... much better.
[07:24] <yobrien> Ayabara: can you remove the totem plugin pacakge?
[07:24] <edd> randoman, coudl u tell me your pc specification?
[07:25] <pyro542> DARKGuy: there is nothing in the logs
[07:25] <anon2000> hmm maybe i should stic kwith fat32
[07:25] <DARKGuy> pyro542: what about Xorg.log ?
[07:25] <pyro542> DARKGuy: maby
[07:25] <anon2000> damn 4gb limit though
[07:25] <Tiradin> fdwrqw
[07:25] <dfwlinuxguy> ayabara apt-get --purge remove totem-mozilla; apt-get install mozilla-mplayer should get mplayer instead of totem working
[07:25] <randoman_> its a emachines, celeron 2.2 ghz 128 cache, 384 meg pc2700 ram,
[07:25] <yobrien> anon2000: fat32 can be bigger than 4gb cant it?
[07:25] <stmiller> fat32 sucks
[07:26] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas.yes scp will work now
[07:26] <anon2000> yobrien i meant the file size limit
[07:26] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ah, nevermind, i forgot about the case sensitivity. old DOS habits die hard
[07:26] <yobrien> anon2000: just not vert efficient
[07:26] <yobrien> anon2000: right
[07:26] <stmiller> fat32 cannot read/write files over 4gb ? I think
[07:26] <mkquist> Tru7h: windows xp?
[07:26] <DARKGuy> pyro542: yeah XD
[07:27] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, connection timed out... not working, what should i use in user and pass, the same i am using in linux or should i create a new user?
[07:27] <pyro542> !pastebin
[07:27] <anon2000> i would use ntfs but ntfs-3g nuked one of my ntfs partitions so im wary of trying that again
[07:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:27] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas .,.. you can even use filezilla to transfer the files...b/c ssh includes a sftp server
[07:27] <Tru7h> mkquist Yes, XP
[07:27] <mkquist> Tru7h: one drive one partition, resized to make one windows? one linux and swap? was that the goal there?
[07:27] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas .,..ssh username@host
[07:27] <ShadyTree> hey, someone told me a laptop with Ubuntu and XP accidentally got washed in a dishwashing machine, and after it was dried off the Ubuntu still ran but the XP didnt
[07:27] <Tiradin> YAR
[07:27] <edd> randoman, do you have how many partition in your harddisk?
[07:27] <randoman_> oh yeah intel motherboard
[07:27] <DARKGuy> ShadyTree: LOL
[07:27] <stmiller> !
[07:27] <Tiradin> I've configured xchat to something like what I want, lol
[07:27] <jonathan_> hi
[07:28] <Tru7h> To install ubuntu on the ext3 with swap for memory and still have windows
[07:28] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas .....ping host
[07:28] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, what is the host?
[07:28] <Tru7h> mkquist ^
[07:28] <jonathan_> heloo everybody!
[07:28] <edd> randoman, mine is intel motherboard too
[07:28] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas .....(hostname) or IP address (192.168.1.10)
[07:28] <jonathan_> somebody can help me?
[07:28] <randoman_> 3, 1 ntfs, 1 linux ext3,1swap
[07:28] <randoman_> 3 partitions
[07:28] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ....or whatever the IP is
[07:28] <jonathan_> to installing vmware tools on my ubuntu 7.04
[07:28] <jussi01> !ask | jonathan_
[07:28] <jonathan_> anybody!
[07:28] <ubotu> jonathan_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:28] <mkquist> Tru7h: so you dont need extended partitions, just one for windows, one for linux and one swap, so how did u get 4? swap partitions?
[07:28] <Tiradin> Alright, now i've got it... ya.
[07:28] <DARKGuy> I once read somewhere that if you play a windoze CD backwards you will hear a devil's message, but if you play it forwards it will install windoze! xD
[07:28] <Ayabara> yobrien, dfwlinuxguy, that did the trick. thanks.
[07:29] <pyro542> DARKGuy: heres the url: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23546/
[07:29] <jonathan_> how to installing vmware tools
[07:29] <jonathan_> ?
[07:29] <DARKGuy> pyro542: ok, lemme check
[07:29] <Tiradin> SWEET i'm not dumb, haha...
[07:29] <Tiradin> alright people, time for me to sleep it up... thanks for everyones help!
[07:29] <Tru7h> mkquist: There were two other (hidden I assume) partitions that I guess came already on my computer (It's a dell) called DellRestore and DellUtilities. I didn't want to mess with them.
[07:29] <dfwlinuxguy> ayabara great!
[07:29] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy i put the ip adress in the host name, and what about the user name and password?
[07:29] <DARKGuy> pyro542: huh, there's something really wrong with your xorg.conf file as I can see
[07:30] <stmiller> jonathan_ : is vmware running INSIDE ubuntu? Or are you running ubuntu inside vmware?
[07:30] <DARKGuy> pyro542: are you on X now?
[07:30] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ....ssh james@192.168.1.10
[07:30] <mkquist> Tru7h: sounds like you already did... lol
[07:30] <pyro542> yah
[07:30] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ....replace james & 192.168.1.10 with actual
[07:30] <pyro542> DARKGuy: yah
[07:30] <Tru7h> mkquist: Yeah, now everything is gone... I think
[07:30] <jonathan_> yes
[07:30] <jonathan_> I'm running ubuntu inside my vmware
[07:31] <jonathan_> somebody help me to install vmware tools
[07:31] <jonathan_> I don't get it
[07:31] <pyro542> DARKGuy: why? whats wrong with it?
[07:31] <DARKGuy> pyro542: try "sudo nvidia-xconfig" to see if that does something, then press control+alt+backspace
[07:31] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, connection timed out
[07:31] <stmiller> jonathan_: okay you'll have to probably get to a terminal to mount the 'fake' vmware cd
[07:31] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ....once you can do that...use filezilla to log in sftp to transfer the files
[07:31] <DARKGuy> pyro542: it's still using the ubuntu "nv" driver, and it should be using "nvidia"
[07:31] <jonathan_> it is
[07:31] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ok
[07:31] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ....ping host (192.168.1.10)
[07:31] <randoman_> so edd you do some investigations?
[07:31] <jonathan_> vmwaretools.tar.gz
[07:31] <stmiller> jonathan_: hang tight let me find the link on vmware.com
[07:31] <Tru7h> mkquist: This just plain sucks... Everything. My pictures my videos my websites my programs my bookmarks my signature PSDs my backups...
[07:31] <jonathan_> what should I do?
[07:31] <jonathan_> ok
[07:31] <mkquist> Tru7h: so on boot nothing happens?
[07:32] <mkquist> Tru7h: im assuming you didnt back up huh... sry
[07:32] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ....if you can't ping the host then either your windows or linux box isn't talking on the network
[07:32] <pyro542> DARKGuy: no, nothing. command not found error
[07:32] <Tru7h> mkquist: On boot, if my live CD isn't in it says "o active partitions, F1 to retay bot, F2 for setup."
[07:32] <DARKGuy> pyro542: nvidia drivers weren't installed then.
[07:32] <Tru7h> retry boot*
[07:32] <DARKGuy> pyro542: okay, let's go step-by-step
[07:32] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ok
[07:33] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ....ifconfig on linux will tell you the IP....ipconfig /all on windows
[07:33] <edd> randoman : try this steps ok? first: reboot your system, run your ubuntu live cd, then install it again, after that choose manually harddisk partition, then reformat your ext3 partition, next make this new ext3 partition use as "/' and the other as swap and media hda1 ( windows partition), then you can continue the installation. Btw I think you should note this ok..good luck
[07:33] <mkquist> Tru7h: ok and in live cd partitioner it shows no partitions at all?
[07:33] <Tru7h> mkquist: I did back up, but it looks like it erased the drive I backed everything up on
[07:33] <DARKGuy> pyro542: what's the full name of the nvidia driver file you are trying to install?
[07:33] <Tru7h> mkquist : Yes, nothing at all
[07:33] <mkquist> Tru7h: check ur bios make sure ur not trying to boot off maybe wrong drive
[07:33] <stmiller> jonathan_: try this   mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
[07:33] <stmiller> cd /tmp
[07:33] <stmiller> tar zxf /mnt/cdrom/vmware-linux-tools.tar.gz
[07:33] <stmiller> umount /mnt/cdrom
[07:33] <randoman_> for sure
[07:33] <pyro542> NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run
[07:33] <mkquist> Tru7h: that can give a similar effect here on boot
[07:34] <edd> got it randoman?
[07:34] <randoman_> pretty sure
[07:34] <stmiller> jonathan_: then this: cd vmware-tools-distrib
[07:34] <stmiller> ./vmware-install.pl
[07:34] <randoman_> ill give it a shot
[07:34] <pyro542> DARKGuy: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9631-pkg1.run
[07:34] <Heptofite> so, what i was going to ask before being rudely redirected to another channel: is there a script that will auto apt-get all the media codec and dvd related junk i need?
[07:34] <KevinOman> is there a graphical editor for grub?
[07:34] <Tru7h> mkquist: Yeah, IU went in and checked the boot sequence. It's either the IDE CD-Rom drive (LiveCD) or the hard drive.
[07:34] <dfwlinuxguy> kevinoman gksu gedit
[07:34] <kadaz> I wonder if there's been a inflow flux since win vista :D
[07:35] <Tru7h> MKquist: And it's the right one, I'm pretty sure
[07:35] <edd> randoman: i'mwaiting for your reply in my email if you have any trouble : eddymulyono2007@yahoo.co.id..OK?
[07:35] <mkquist> Tru7h: u only have one drive then right?
[07:35] <DARKGuy> pyro542: cool. I bet you know already how to change between terminals (control+alt+f1 thru f6). We'll use a second terminal to get in contact. First you need to get an IRC client, try "sudo apt-get install irssi"
[07:35] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...making progress?
[07:35] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...can
[07:35] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ok
[07:35] <Tru7h> mkquist: No, I have my main hard drive and an external USB drive which is the one I put my backups on
[07:35] <DARKGuy> pyro542: so I can help you while you're in console with no X =)
[07:35] <Heptofite>  is there a script that will auto apt-get all the media codec and dvd related junk i need?
[07:35] <randoman_> alright
[07:35] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...can't transfer files unless the boxes can "talk" to each other
[07:35] <randoman_> thanks
[07:36] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy,  inet addr:192.168.0.2 this means my ip is 192.168.0.2 right?
[07:36] <Tru7h> the USB one is 160 GBs and it's also empty in the partitioner, no partitions.
[07:36] <jonathan_> ok
[07:36] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...yes
[07:36] <mkquist> Tru7h: well the external should be ok then, ubuntu might just be having a prob reading it
[07:36] <excalibas> how can i ping xp from xubuntu?
[07:36] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...and your windows box?
[07:36] <KevinOman> dfwlinuxguy: I meant a standalone aplication for editing grub
[07:36] <Heptofite>  is there a script that will auto apt-get all the media codec and dvd related junk i need?
[07:36] <excalibas> 192.168.0.1
[07:36] <mkquist> Tru7h: that one should be unplugged anyway while u do ur set-up, id think just to be safe
[07:36] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ok
[07:36] <pyro542> DARKGuy: thats done
[07:36] <Tru7h> mkquist: Okay, that's good to know. I'll take it with me tommorow and see if it works on my other PC.... If it does I should be able to restore the backup on a fresh install of XP
[07:36] <varka> pyro542: DARKGuy: this version is already in the repositories and is called 'nvidia-glx'. so why do you want to install it manually?
[07:37] <dfwlinuxguy> kevinoman gedit can edit grub...personally I use emacs....maybe I don't understand your question?
[07:37] <gravemind> hey peeps - I'm using an external harddisk formatted in hfs+ from my mac - I can see the files, but I can't copy them to the computer. What gives?
[07:37] <KevinOman> Heptofite: have you heard of ubuntu studio
[07:37] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy,192.168.0.1
[07:37] <mkquist> Tru7h: id say, unplug ur external, restore windows w/dell disc or whatever and ull prob see the drive
[07:37] <captaintrips> argh..... i cant get anything to work with my wifi card. aside from iwlist scan
[07:37] <rollerskatejamms> Hey I'm having a really weird issue. I have a brand new Thinkpad T61 with an nvidia video card, but X will only start with vesa, both the nv and nvidia drivers fail.
[07:37] <Heptofite> KevinOman, which is what exactly?
[07:37] <jonathan_> oh my
[07:37] <jonathan_> still can't
[07:37] <Tru7h> mkquist: Okay, I'll try that.
[07:37] <Tru7h> TOmmorow though
[07:37] <mkquist> Tru7h: then u can try ur install again w/ubuntu, just keep that one unplugged till u get it all settled
[07:37] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...they both have the same IP address....not workable
[07:37] <gravemind> it was automatically detected when I plugged in the usb - firewire didn't work for some reason
[07:37] <pyro542> varka: I can install it some other way?
[07:37] <DARKGuy> varka: nvidia drivers always work, the packages give tons of problems =/ at least in my experience with 3 cards and 6 ubuntu installs (edgy & fawn)
[07:37] <captaintrips> got kismet to start, but shows no channel hopping or networks
[07:37] <Tru7h> I'm traumatized and speely
[07:37] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...change one of them to 192.168.0.23
[07:37] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...change one of them to 192.168.0.2
[07:37] <Tru7h> sleepy*
[07:38] <Tru7h> I'm going to bed
[07:38] <Tru7h> goodnight,,,
[07:38] <mkquist> Tru7h: g/l
[07:38] <mkquist> Tru7h: gnite to u
[07:38] <KevinOman> dfwlinuxguy: there's a program in kde control panel that lets you edit the lilo config real easily, I do not want to edit the text and mess something up
[07:38] <DARKGuy> varka: if you want to help pyro542 with that method, that's alright :P but I've never done it so you'll be on your own :S
[07:38] <pyro542> lol, speely
[07:38] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...can't have 2 machines with the same IP address
[07:38] <kkathman> does anyone  know of a Linux app like Snag-It ??
[07:38] <stmiller> jonathan_: just read over the vmware documentation. On their website, or the help part of vmware
[07:38] <randoman_> just wanted to say thanks edd again
[07:38] <varka> DARKGuy: my experience ist the other way round and in fact you should give the repository a try before using manual install, cause the other way round is even harder most times
[07:39] <randoman_> ill let you know how it goes
[07:39] <dfwlinuxguy> kevinoman this is the ubuntu forum not the kubuntu forum...grub is the standard boot-loader...I had no idea you were using lilo
[07:39] <paroxysm> what's the best screencasting package for ubuntu?
[07:39] <gravemind> "sudo: cd: command not found"
[07:39] <gravemind> wtf?
[07:39] <jonathan_> can u send me the link stmiller?
[07:39] <pyro542> varka: well, if you can help me in some easy way, Ill try that, then try the hard way
[07:39] <jonathan_> hm...
[07:39] <jonathan_> can we have a private chat??
[07:39] <jonathan_> this place so crowded
[07:39] <DARKGuy> varka: *shrug* I trust nvidia more, I'll read and learn too then :P
[07:39] <dfwlinuxguy> kevinoman I'm so sorry I can't be more helpful...I edit lilo and grub with text editors
[07:40] <pyro542> varka: assuming the pakage dosent work
[07:40] <DARKGuy> paroxysm: istanbul
[07:40] <stmiller> jonathan_: no private chats unless you register with freenode.net
[07:40] <paroxysm> DARKGuy: what a weird name lol, thanks i'll check it out
[07:40] <dfwlinuxguy> kevinoman if there is a gui tool, I'm un-aware of it
[07:40] <DARKGuy> paroxysm: it's great, welcome :P
[07:40] <jonathan_> oh..
[07:40] <jonathan_> ok
[07:40] <varka> pyro542: what type of chipset does your nvidia have?
[07:40] <jonathan_> i'll tried to register
[07:40] <jonathan_> this is my first time using linux
[07:40] <pyro542> DARKGuy: x86?
[07:41] <pyro542> varka: x86?
[07:41] <Helmi> g'morning
[07:41] <DARKGuy> pyro542: nu, your nvidia card, you said it was a GeForce4 no?
[07:41] <pyro542> DARKGuy: yah
[07:41] <stmiller> jonathan_: see if this helps: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-vmware-server-from-canonical-commercial-repository-in-ubuntu-feisty.html
[07:41] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, i changed the ip, but still cant ping...
[07:41] <DARKGuy> pyro542: there, varka will help you now :P
[07:41] <jonathan_> ok
[07:41] <Helmi> does anyone know how to disable spellchecking within pidgin? can't find the option
[07:41] <jonathan_> thx
[07:41] <excalibas> my network connectrion shows connectren in xp
[07:41] <pyro542> DARKGuy: ok
[07:42] <pyro542> varka: so what do I do?
[07:42] <stmiller> jonathan_: oops crap wrong link
[07:42] <Heptofite>  is there a script that will auto apt-get all the media codec and dvd related junk i need?
[07:42] <randoman_> edd dont you think I can rename the partition with out it diong the initial install before lke you were saying
[07:42] <gravemind> how do I find out what /dev my external drive is? it was dectedted automatically, not in fstab
[07:42] <Heptofite> !codecs
[07:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:42] <tin_nqn> hello people. I'm trying to install kubuntu 7.04 in a laptop HP omnibook x3, and it boots ok, but the X crashs at the beginning
[07:42] <varka> pyro542: ok, thats what i wanted to know, DARKGuy, lets try the repository just once if it doesnt work its easily deinstalled in you can try it manually with him, ok?
[07:42] <jonathan_> by the way
[07:42] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...you have to be "talking" on the same network...Linux - 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0  Windows 192.168.0.2 netmast 255.255.255.0
[07:42] <varka> pyro542: just a second
[07:42] <tin_nqn> I've found this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/89892
[07:42] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, how can i ping the xp box from xubuntu?
[07:42] <jonathan_> I DON'T KNOW HOW TO INSTALLING FILE.TAR.GZ
[07:42] <pyro542> varka: ok'
[07:43] <jonathan_> it's hard to install those package
[07:43] <Hobbsee> !tar | jonathan_
[07:43] <ubotu> jonathan_: Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (GNOME) or Ark (KDE) - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[07:43] <Heptofite> excalibas, TYPE PING <windows xp ip address
[07:43] <Hobbsee> !compile | jonathan_
[07:43] <ubotu> jonathan_: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[07:43] <rococo> !caps
[07:43] <root> Does anyone know if you still need to use 950 resolution to get 1280x800
[07:43] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:43] <stmiller> jonathan_: okay here it is: http://www.vmware.com/support/ws55/doc/ws_newguest_tools_linux.html
[07:43] <tin_nqn> the point is that edgy and dapper works ok from the cd... so How can I install feisty ?
[07:43] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ...unless you can ping the windows box from linux and vise-versa...we're not getting anywhere
[07:43] <stmiller> kind of confusing but eh
[07:43] <DARKGuy> varka: ok
[07:44] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..if the 2 are connected directly...are you using a crossover cable?
[07:44] <jonathan_> ok
[07:44] <captaintrips> this is weird, after having ubuntu running for about 30 mins it starts crawling, everything is hitching and delyed, even text/mouse cursor
[07:44] <jonathan_> I'm reading the tips
[07:44] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..going through a switch or hub?
[07:44] <jonathan_> I'm confused
[07:44] <pyro542> varka: ok, lets do this. Im gonna need seep pretty soon
[07:44] <gravemind> how do I find the /dev of my external drive?
[07:44] <jonathan_> to know the diffrent
[07:44] <jonathan_> och...
[07:44] <jonathan_> tar xzvf?
[07:44] <varka> pyro542: ok, just had to verify you dont have to use the legacy driver. so just open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:44] <grodius> hey do i need to use 955 resolution
[07:44] <dfwlinuxguy> gravemind...plug it in an examine the output of dmesg
[07:44] <grodius> to get 1280x800 res
[07:45] <dfwlinuxguy> gravemind...dmesg | less
[07:45] <stmiller> jonathan_: yeah just type that into a terminal inside vmware (inside ubuntu)
[07:45] <crdlb> grodius, if you don't use xserver-xorg-video-intel
[07:45] <gravemind> thanks
[07:45] <Dev0205> Anybody notice the bug in Gedit - When you save a file that is ont he desktop, it moves to the upper left side of the screen?
[07:45] <rococo> jonathan_: when a file ends in .tar.gz, think about it like a .zip file in windows. You "unzip" it by running "tar zxvf filename.tar.gz" and then you can get at the contents
[07:45] <pyro542> varka: ok, its working on it
[07:45] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy they are connected directely, the cable is crossover, in the linux i get operation not permitted when i try to ping
[07:45] <jonathan_> oh...
[07:45] <pyro542> varka: ok, done
[07:45] <jonathan_> so this is a zip files??
[07:45] <jonathan_> like in my windows xp
[07:45] <dfwlinuxguy> gravemind..do you have a firewall running on the Linux host?
[07:46] <gravemind> firestarter
[07:46] <crdlb> grodius, that package is in universe and it will do modesetting automatically
[07:46] <pyro542> varka: is that all?
[07:46] <rococo> jonathan_: usually, installable files that end in .tar.gz is the source code that you're going to have to compile. You decompress it, go in. There's usually a readme file that will give you the info you need on how to compile and install it
[07:46] <varka> pyro542: now type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    then go to 'Section "Device"' and change the entry 'Driver' from "nv" to "nvidia"
[07:46] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..iptables -L
[07:46] <jonathan_> hm....
[07:46] <stmiller> jonathan_: yes basically you just need to unzip that thing, and execute the installer inside!
[07:46] <grodius> crdlb: do i just need to get that package? is it apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel ?
[07:46] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..should all say accept
[07:46] <jonathan_> so the first time I should do is
[07:47] <rococo> (to read the readme, open it in a text editor or run "less README" in the terminal - you can then page back and forth with the space and "b" buttons if you use less)
[07:47] <jonathan_> extract those file
[07:47] <crdlb> grodius, not really sure :P
[07:47] <varka> pyro542: after that you can save the file, log out, press Control+Alt+Backspace and you should be done
[07:47] <jonathan_> after extract those files?
[07:47] <jonathan_> go to terminal
[07:47] <crdlb> grodius, if that removes xserver-xorg-video-i810
[07:47] <crdlb> then yes
[07:47] <jonathan_> and?
[07:47] <rococo> jonathan_: yes. you can also extract it using file-roller by doubleclicking on it from the GUI
[07:47] <gravemind> dfwlinuxguy: can I use tail -f to see dmesg?
[07:47] <crdlb> but if it doesn't, you need to change your xorg.conf
[07:47] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, some say drop, there is a huge list...
[07:48] <pyro542> varka: im not getting a file
[07:48] <demo_N> I am runnung 64 bit fiesty , and i got to install 32bit opera on it. Now all my youtube videos are choppy even after buffering completly
[07:48] <kadaz> how can I have read and write access on my ntfs?
[07:48] <rococo> jonathan_: like I said, after you extract the files, you need to go into the directory that has been extracted. There should be a README file for installing the program from source if it's a program you're trying to install
[07:48] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..last week I was doing the same with 2 new laptops and I had to use a non-crossover cable to get it to work. Evidently the NIC's were using autosensing and didn't need a crossover cable
[07:48] <jonathan_> is any software can make this package automatically installed on my computer?
[07:48] <mohsin> hi dear how can i update my video drivers
[07:48] <crdlb> mohsin, upgrade?
[07:48] <crdlb> to what?
[07:48] <pyro542> there is no such directory as /ect
[07:48] <mohsin> i can't seee any bootsplash at startup
[07:48] <dfwlinuxguy> gravemind.. dmesg | less.....or tail -f /var/log/syslog
[07:48] <mohsin> how
[07:48] <mohsin> whats the command of upgrade
[07:48] <Heptofite> HOW do i check to ensure the i686 module is loaded in my kernel, and if not loaded, how do i load it?
[07:49] <varka> pyro542: not ect but etc!
[07:49] <rococo> jonathan_: depends on what it is. almost always, .tar.gz is source code for a program, and there isn't an automated process to install it.
[07:49] <dfwlinuxguy> gravemind. shift-G will get you to the end of dmesg
[07:49] <gravemind> dfwlinuxguy: thanks. I didn'
[07:49] <jonathan_> I'm extract those files on /home/jonathan/Desktop/jonathan
[07:49] <pyro542> varka: oh, no duh
[07:49] <mohsin> i am using kubuntu 7.04
[07:49] <gravemind> dfwlinuxguy: I didn't know they were the same thing : )
[07:49] <dfwlinuxguy> gravemind. they aren't exactly
[07:49] <mohsin> crdlb: how can use the upgrade command
[07:49] <kadaz> how can I have read and write access on my ntfs
[07:49] <jonathan_> /home/jonathan/Desktop/jonathan/vmware-tools-distrib
[07:50] <gravemind> dfwlinuxguy: wjat
[07:50] <crdlb> mohsin, why do you think upgrading your video drivers will fix your bootsplash?
[07:50] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, does that mean now i need a cable that is not crossover??
[07:50] <gravemind> dfwlinuxguy: sorry, what is the difference between dmesg and /var/syslog
[07:50] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..you might try using a non-crossover
[07:50] <gravemind> /var/log/syslog rather
[07:50] <mohsin> crdlb its my assumption because i did every thing but didn't got any clue or idea to fix it
[07:50] <pyro542> varka: ok
[07:50] <rococo> jonathan_: wait, you're installing vmware? why don't you just use synaptic?
[07:50] <mohsin> same annoying black screen
[07:50] <jonathan_> oh...
[07:50] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..some newer hardware is auto-sensing and doesn't require a crossover
[07:50] <jonathan_> yes!
[07:50] <crdlb> mohsin, what video card?
[07:51] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..confusing I know
[07:51] <grodius> hey im trying to get my resolution on an intel gfx chip to be 1280x800, whats the best way to do that with feisty?
[07:51] <jonathan_> I can using synaptic packages
[07:51] <varka> pyro542: you edited the xorg.conf already?
[07:51] <mohsin> Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device"
[07:51] <pyro542> varka: yah
[07:51] <mohsin> this one
[07:51] <varka> pyro542: after that you can save the file, log out, press Control+Alt+Backspace and you should be done
[07:51] <crdlb> grodius, you can use 915resolution if you don't want to switch to -intel
[07:51] <rococo> jonathan_: so you shouldn't need that .tar.gz file
[07:51] <pyro542> varka: ok, thanks
[07:51] <mohsin> Driver		"i"810
[07:51] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..it used to always require a cross-over cable
[07:51] <crdlb> mohsin, there are no drivers to upgrade to
[07:51] <grodius> crdlb: i thought that 915 resolution didnt work anymore
[07:51] <pyro542> varka: brb
[07:51] <jonathan_> ha2
[07:51] <Hobbsee> grodius: it wont be needed with gutsy
[07:51] <mohsin> then what should i do to repair my bootsplash
[07:52] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, i dont have ona at hand, and my hardware is not new, my linux box is a celeron 600mhz and my xp is a pentium iv (5 years old)
[07:52] <mohsin> i don ever get a boot splash
[07:52] <jonathan_> ok
[07:52] <jonathan_> I got it!
[07:52] <mohsin> i did the installation about 5 times
[07:52] <mobutu> isnt there a gnome-applet that monitors temperature ?
[07:52] <jonathan_> this is must be the vmware tools!!!!
[07:52] <Wiesenjo> hello
[07:52] <grodius> Hobbsee: so would you recommend using 915 still
[07:52] <Hobbsee> grodius: yes
[07:52] <demo_N> is there any 64 bit browsers?
[07:52] <gravemind> it says device is busy. what is it doing?
[07:52] <Hobbsee> if you've got an intel card, which isnt going at the right resolution
[07:52] <mohsin> crdlb are u there
[07:53] <silent_> awww shiet... guess who just graduated?
[07:53] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..that old most likely requires a crossover....make sure they don't have the same IP address and that the both ARE on the same subnet (eg 255.255.255.0)
[07:53] <jonathan_> oh my!
[07:53] <sundu> hi, new to edubuntu, did the installation and my egional settings"are for India, though i do not stay there. How do i change the settings for my local area - Bahrain
[07:53] <jonathan_> I'm using windows vista
[07:53] <pyro542> varka: ok, im getting a 'restricted driver' thingy and I saw an nvidia screen flash when I restarted graphical mode, so I guess something went right
[07:53] <grodius> Can someone link me to a guide for 915reoslution
[07:53] <jonathan_> 1 gb memory
[07:53] <mohsin> crdlb: are u there
[07:53] <jonathan_> and using vmware
[07:53] <jonathan_> with ubuntu
[07:53] <crdlb> mohsin, I have no idea
[07:53] <jonathan_> 256 mb
[07:53] <pyro542> varka: now, for the real test
[07:54] <jonathan_> and this OS really slow!!!!!
[07:54] <mohsin> ahan
[07:54] <rococo> jonathan_: it worked right out of the box? that's pretty impressive
[07:54] <varka> pyro542: yes, you're done, everything should be fine, and automatically updated from now on
[07:54] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, my first try was widouth a crossover cabe (some weeks ago) and in the xp box there was no connection shown, now i got a crossover cabe and it shows a connection, but i have been triing to get them to tal for about 8 hours now...
[07:54] <kadaz> How come my linux swap isnt being used?
[07:54] <mohsin> is any one here to solve ma problem
[07:54] <silent_> Wow... at first I was disappointed at the notion I would have to use onboard sound until X-fi drivers were released, but I'm pleased to say this onboard device is really nice
[07:54] <Wiesenjo> someone from germany in the channel ?
[07:54] <pyro542> varka: good
[07:54] <rococo> jonathan_: well, virtual machines are always a lot slower than an OS directly installed on a computer
[07:54] <pyro542> varka: thanks
[07:54] <silent_> Anyone know when X-Fi drivers are coming out?
[07:54] <varka> pyro542: np
[07:54] <lgc> Hi! Is there any software to backup to a disk only what has changed since the last backup? Thanks.
[07:54] <sascham83> Wiesenjo: ja
[07:54] <Toma-> silent_: when hell freezes over
[07:54] <gravemind> !german
[07:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:54] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ../etc/network/interfaces for linux...I'm sure you know how to change it in windows
[07:54] <demo_N> is there any 64 bit browsers?
[07:55] <jonathan_> yep
[07:55] <Phylo> I want to dual boot Ubuntu and WinXP Pro.  I have a WinXP Pro cd and an Ubuntu CD.  What do I do first?
[07:55] <TakeOut{u}> firefox
[07:55] <jonathan_> but my host operating system
[07:55] <jonathan_> are more slower than the guest operating system
[07:55] <gravemind> demo_N: if you installed 64 ubuntu, firefox is 64 bit
[07:55] <TakeOut{u}> XP Pro, then Ubuntu Phylo
[07:55] <Wiesenjo> ubotu : thanks
[07:55] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[07:55] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..unless you can ping one from another...we are fighting a losing battle
[07:55] <demo_N> gravemind: then why is my youtube videos not working
[07:55] <jonathan_> my windows vista really-really bad!!!!!!!
[07:55] <mohsin> ubotu
[07:55] <silent_> Toma-, Creative has pledged they will develop drivers... original date was set at Q2 2007, I'm just wondering if there is any new info on that?
[07:55] <scarter> Phylo: inferior OS then superior OS (i.e. WinXP then Ubuntu)...
[07:55] <mohsin> ubotu: i have some query
[07:55] <mohsin> u can solve it or not
[07:55] <gravemind> demo_N cause you have to install 32 bit firefox
[07:56] <gravemind> !binaryflashjava
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about binaryflashjava - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <gravemind> hmm
[07:56] <Toma-> silent_: http://opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html
[07:56] <gravemind> what's the thing that gets him to say how to do the 64 bit flash and things
[07:56] <ompaul> !flash
[07:56] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:56] <mohsin> ubotu:bootsplash
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bootsplash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <gravemind> no, that' snot it
[07:56] <jonathan_> ok
[07:56] <gravemind> !64
[07:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 64 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:56] <jonathan_> see you all
[07:57] <Vanax> Can somebody give me a link to config my ATI drivers for ubuntu
[07:57] <silent_> Toma-, great, thanks for the heads up!
[07:57] <lgc> Hi! Is there any software to backup to a disk only what has changed since the last backup? Thanks.
[07:57] <ompaul> !chroot
[07:57] <ubotu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[07:57] <ompaul> !ati
[07:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:57] <Toma-> silent_: np. still better off selling it :)
[07:57] <Vanax> danke
[07:57] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, i dont understand whay one of the network cards is eth0 and the other eth2 (where is eth1?) but i can use the internet with bowth
[07:57] <rococo> !vin
[07:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:57] <rococo> drat
[07:57] <silent_> Toma-, no, no I think not. The sound quality on this device is unparalleled
[07:58] <silent_> Toma-, plus when I play games in winbloze it works :)
[07:58] <lgc> Does anyone know what is the divergence of the magnetic field?
[07:58] <Hobbsee> !offtopic | lgc
[07:58] <ubotu> lgc: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:58] <scarter> rococo: !vim
[07:58] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..that is b/c you have 2 NIC's...one could be a wireless card?
[07:58] <dw_> is there a way to find out with command line tools which ram (ddr/ddr2,..) at which speed is built into a pc without having to open the computer (warranty)?
[07:58] <rococo> scarter: no, that's not what I was trying to do. I was being stupid. But thanks!
[07:59] <silent_> dw_, cpu-z will
[07:59] <lgc> I wish I could get my ontopic answers as fast an offtopic signal
[07:59] <silent_> dw_, I haven't tried wining it yet, I will right now, brb
[07:59] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, no wireless, no more network cards
[07:59] <rococo> lgc: but divergencei s just the dot product between the gradient and hte function
[07:59] <Dev0205> Hi folks. I just installed Beryl and Emerald but do not see an icon for it on the taskbar. Is there a terminal command I can run to load Emerald?
[07:59] <rococo> lgc: there's your answer ;-)
[08:00] <Hobbsee> Dev0205: #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[08:00] <Dev0205> Thanks.
[08:00] <dw_> silent_ thx. cpu-z is the name of the package?
[08:00] <lgc> rococo, Zero. But you were close. :).
[08:00] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..firewire card?
[08:00] <rococo> lgc: the divergence is always zero when the function is conservative
[08:00] <silent_> dw_, no, it is a .exe
[08:00] <silent_> dw_, you will have to use wine, I'm not sure if it works, however
[08:00] <Phylo> but don't I need to make partitions or something?
[08:01] <lgc> rococo, you got that right.
[08:01] <dw_> silent_ any linux way to do this? i don't have windows installed....
[08:01] <wacaly> can you have different languages for different users in ubuntu? if, how to set it?
[08:01] <dw_> silent_ ok, i'll try with wine...
[08:01] <rococo> heh
[08:01] <gravemind> <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava">I finally found it: FirefoxAMD64FlashJava - Community Ubuntu Documentation</a>
[08:01] <silent_> dw_, I'm checking on that right now, I'll get back to you
[08:01] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas ..you can use ifup eth0...ifdown eth0 to bring up and down the interfaces
[08:01] <dw_> silent_ thx a lot mate!
[08:02] <lgc> rococo, now you can perhaps answer my ontopic question: "Hi! Is there any software to backup to a disk only what has changed since the last backup?"
[08:02] <scarter> Phylo: Ubuntu will give you the option to resize your partition during install
[08:02] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas if you keep using eth0 and are having no luck try eth2
[08:02] <gravemind> demo_N: see the link I put
[08:02] <heavensrevenge> hello
[08:02] <chris-a> question
[08:02] <heavensrevenge> yes, i have a questio too;)
[08:02] <chris-a> umm firfox problem again
[08:02] <chris-a> same segamentation fault prob from yesterday
[08:02] <rococo> lgc: um, what would you be trying to back up?
[08:02] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas sorry..it's 1am here...and I have to head of to bed
[08:03] <heavensrevenge> i have a eagate usb external drive, and periodically it just falls dormant, and access basically hangs
[08:03] <lgc> rococo, an entire ext3 partition.
[08:03] <silent_> dw_, cat proc/cpuinfo gives fairly detailed cpu info, trying to find something for memory...
[08:03] <scarter> heavensrevenge, chris-a: refer to http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[08:03] <heavensrevenge> is there a way for a hdparm like option to disable the sleeping of a seagate usb drive??
[08:03] <chris-a> umm okay
[08:03] <excalibas> dfwlinuxguy, yes, mabie i will try to change the cables, i have to go to bed too, thanks for the help anyway
[08:03] <dw_> silent_ i already looked for information on ram in /proc/cpuinfo but didn't find anything useful...
[08:04] <rococo> lgc: it's theoretically possible using scripts that run at night, but I don't know about any software that does it myself. Sorry
[08:04] <rococo> !backup | lgc
[08:04] <ubotu> lgc: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[08:04] <lgc> rococo, it'a like a "disk diff".
[08:04] <rococo> you already look at tahat?
[08:04] <silent_> dw_, apparently booting into memtest86 will show memory frequency
[08:04] <nl_> qs
[08:04] <ShadyTree> is there a way to make Kubuntu have the UbuntuME splash screen
[08:05] <nl_> back
[08:05] <lgc> rococo, oh thanks! Let me take a look at it...
[08:05] <ShadyTree> http://www.ubuntume.com/screenshots
[08:05] <scarter> !cloning
[08:05] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type  dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages , move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type  sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && apt-get dselect-upgrade  - See also !automate
[08:05] <DARKGuy> dude, cool
[08:06] <DARKGuy> !automate
[08:06] <dw_> silent_ just installed wine and started cpuz.exe and most of the information is displayed but not ram speed. anyway, i'd probably better go asking at #archlinux because this is my father's pc running arch
[08:06] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[08:06] <Khrajin> Good evening everyone
[08:06] <rococo> take that, Norton Ghost!
[08:06] <silent_> dw_, apparently booting into memtest86 will show memory frequency
[08:06] <dw_> silent_ ok, i'll try that. thanks a lot!
[08:06] <silent_> dw_, no problem
[08:06] <scarter> !sbackup
[08:06] <ubotu> sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe
[08:07] <Khrajin> I just installed Ubuntu Server 7.04 to a server and I want to startup Apache and test out setting it up as a web server adn an FTP server.
[08:07] <TakeOut{u}> when you boot up, most bios' will show you the memory frequency
[08:07] <TakeOut{u}> Khrajin, did you select the LAMP option when you installed ?
[08:07] <immanouel> hello
[08:08] <Khrajin> TakeOut{u}: No idea. Let me see.
[08:08] <immanouel> i dowloaded and burn but i got caldera dos A:/
[08:08] <Khrajin> TakeOut{u}: Um, how do I find out? lol.
[08:08] <ashzilla> Hey thugs
[08:09] <DARKGuy> varka: huh, guess the nvidia-glx method worked XD
[08:09] <ashzilla> Yo
[08:09] <ashzilla> so my harddrive
[08:09] <ashzilla> just stopped booting, it doesn't even get to the bootloader
[08:10] <gravemind> hey, how do I change the permissions on this external drive so I can copy files from it?
[08:10] <immanouel> someone can answer me?
[08:10] <gravemind> I can see the files, but I can't copy all of them
[08:10] <gravemind> why
[08:11] <silent_> gravemind, man chmod and chown
[08:11] <Ayabara> I'm have ATI graphics and run a dual screen "big desktop" setup. I also use a WinXP-vm in Vmware Server. Problem is that when I try to use Vmware in full screen it is stretched over both my monitors. Is this a Vmware problem? All my other applications maximize only on one screen.
[08:11] <llio> i have a problem with fiesty after updating to latest nvidia drivers. I cant start x, and the error says Fatal Server Error, No Screens Found.
[08:12] <varka> DARKGuy: thats the recommended way tp install it :P this way you will have automated updated through the updatemanager, if you install it manually you have to reinstall it everytime the kernel is updated. so if the driver in the repositories works there is no reason to install it manually, especially for newbies i  think :)
[08:12] <silent_> llio, xorg.conf Driver = nvidia?
[08:12] <gravemind> silent_: how do I find out what it has right now for chown and chmod?
[08:12] <silent_> gravemind, ls -l
[08:13] <Redneck|Ubuntu> heya gents :)
[08:13] <silent_> howdy
[08:13] <Khrajin> Evening Redneck|Ubuntu
[08:13] <Redneck|Ubuntu> how is everyone doing tonight?
[08:13] <gravemind> drwxr-xr-x
[08:13] <Khrajin> Wanting to setup Apache but I dont know if I setup lamp
[08:13] <gravemind> is that right?
[08:13] <llio> silent_: yes its nvidia
[08:13] <Redneck|Ubuntu> what is apache?
[08:14] <Redneck|Ubuntu> and I guess lamp for that matter :)
[08:14] <Khrajin> lol
[08:14] <immanouel> i dowload and burn unbutu but i get caldera dos A:/
[08:14] <Khrajin> LAMP is an acronym.
[08:14] <gravemind> silent_: I just want to be able to copy files from it
[08:14] <silent_> llio, did you update everything? sudo apt-get update/upgrade?
[08:14] <Khrajin> Apache is the backend software used to host 90% of websites
[08:14] <Redneck|Ubuntu> got to remember, I am a linux newbie :)
[08:14] <llio> linux, apache, mysql, php
[08:14] <Khrajin> Yeah that
[08:14] <Redneck|Ubuntu> ok gotcha
[08:14] <silent_> gravemind, cd /MOUNT FOR DISK/
[08:14] <Redneck|Ubuntu> I know mysql and php
[08:14] <Redneck|Ubuntu> more php then anything
[08:14] <Redneck|Ubuntu> www.tkers.com uses php
[08:14] <silent_> gravemind, chmod -R a=r *
[08:14] <ashzilla> hey
[08:15] <ashzilla> how can I find a sata hard drive
[08:15] <ashzilla> or mount it as a data drive
[08:15] <silent_> that should sort you out, you'll probably have to sudo it though
[08:15] <ashzilla> I need to back up some stuff on my USB external.. You know?
[08:15] <DARKGuy> varka: I guess, removing it and installing the official driver is easy? I've had bad bad bad experiences with nvidia-glx-* packages and reinstalling nvidia through the official one, because of problems with recompiling the module, module version mismatchs, etc.
[08:15] <immanouel> why no one answer me?
[08:15] <Redneck|Ubuntu> immanouel: whats up?
[08:15] <gravemind> silent_: alright. Is this reversible?
[08:15] <DARKGuy> immanouel: maybe because nobody here knows the answer to your problem yet o.o
[08:15] <llio> silent_: yes ive done update/grade
[08:15] <gravemind> I don't want to leave the drive in an unusable state
[08:15] <silent_> immanouel, I missed your question
[08:16] <DARKGuy> immanouel: or you haven't been clear enough, try expanding your question :)
[08:16] <Redneck|Ubuntu> ++
[08:16] <Khrajin> ashzilla: man mount
[08:16] <immanouel> i download burn ubuntu but i get caldera dos A:/
[08:16] <Redneck|Ubuntu> yeah, if anyone has the answers, it is this group
[08:16] <silent_> gravemind, are you automounting it with fstab?
[08:16] <gravemind> what is a caldera?
[08:16] <smuggler8> If i am planning an install on a pc where I will use ubuntu as a primary os and XP only through VM. Is it best to install ubuntu first?
[08:16] <edd> immanouel, how is the file size? in MB.
[08:16] <llio> silent_: error also says: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIAkernel module! (EE) Screens found, but none have a usuable configuration
[08:16] <Khrajin> smuggler8: YOu have to install Ubuntu to run VMware on it.
[08:17] <Redneck|Ubuntu> smuggler8: what he said
[08:17] <immanouel> ABOUT 697MB
[08:17] <gravemind> silent_: no. I found out which /dev it was by trial and error and did this sudo mount -w -t hfsplus /dev/sdb6 /media/LaCie
[08:17] <immanouel> sorry
[08:17] <smuggler8> thanks, just confused about the vm/xp relationship
[08:17] <smuggler8> do i need xp installed or do i install it later, with the use of vm?
[08:17] <Khrajin> smuggler8: Think of VM just like you use IRC. It's a program, and you log into channels. Think of XP as a channel. You can't load up a channel to run your computer
[08:18] <varka> DARKGuy:  and i had serious problems the other way round, as the so call official driver changed the path the modules are searched from the kernel and left some junkdata after deinstallationscript. ok, experiences can be different...
[08:18] <Redneck|Ubuntu> smuggler8: vmare is just a virtual pc and needs an operating system to install to before you can install the virtual operating system
[08:18] <llio> can vmware runs macos?
[08:18] <DARKGuy> varka: wow o.O...
[08:18] <excel> can i play m4a in xmms?
[08:18] <Khrajin> llio: Dunno
[08:18] <MightyMatt> Hey all.  Having some problems installing Ubuntu 7.04 from the Live CD.  It boots just fine, but when I try to start the installer, it crashes at some random point during the setup process.
[08:18] <gravemind> silent_ : in the gui, some of the folders have locks on them. Those are the folders I want to copy from, but I don't want to mess up all the permissions
[08:18] <Redneck|Ubuntu> llio: not sure, never heard of anything like that
[08:18] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Did you try the Alternative CD?
[08:18] <llio> ok
[08:18] <silent_> gravemind, try sudo mount -t hfsplus -o users,ro /dev/sdb6 /media/laCie
[08:18] <Redneck|Ubuntu> using it that way anyways
[08:19] <smuggler8> ok thanks for clarifying than. So should work fine if i install ubunto 7.04 then VM, then XP.
[08:19] <gravemind> silent_: right-o
[08:19] <immanouel> brb
[08:19] <Redneck|Ubuntu> smuggler8: yep
[08:19] <Khrajin> smuggler8: yup
[08:19] <edd> immanouel; what program did you burn the iso file with?
[08:19] <smuggler8> Thanks everyone.
[08:19] <excel> Redneck|Ubuntu, that depends entirely on which vmware you're talking about
[08:20] <Redneck|Ubuntu> I dont really do too much with vmware
[08:20] <gravemind> silent_ It won't umount. says device is busy
[08:20] <excel> llio, short answer: yes
[08:20] <immanouel> nero
[08:20] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: Sort of.  It crashes a lot, too.  Usually while trying to load things off the CD.
[08:20] <silent_> immanouel, you can burn isos in linux by right clicking the iso file and using the menu
[08:20] <silent_> immanouel, in windows you should try CDburnerXP Pro
[08:20] <llio> silent_: error also says: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIAkernel module! (EE) Screens found, but none have a usuable configuration
[08:20] <immanouel> ok ty
[08:21] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Do the 'Check CD for errors' on the bootup screen.
[08:21] <silent_> llio, try using Driver = vesa for now, see if it boots
[08:21] <Redneck|Ubuntu> hmm
[08:21] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: I did.  It checks out OK.
[08:21] <Redneck|Ubuntu> have to start xchat again
[08:21] <silent_> gravemind, close programs accessing the drive
[08:21] <Redneck|Ubuntu> getting a connection refused on another server :(
[08:21] <ashzilla> hello
[08:21] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Is there anything special about the hardware?
[08:21] <edd> immanouel; in nero ther's a choice to burn iso file, have you try it?
[08:21] <llio> silent_: yes it boots
[08:22] <gravemind> silent_: there aren't any
[08:22] <silent_> llio, have you installed all the required packages (restricted modules etc.)?
[08:22] <silent_> gravemind, restart
[08:22] <gravemind> log out works too, in my xp
[08:22] <llio> silent_: how do i do that? i upgraded the drivers using spm
[08:23] <silent_> synaptic?
[08:23] <llio> yea
[08:23] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: No.  Asus motherboard, Athlon XP prcoessor, 2GB RAM, IDE hard drive, Memorex DVD burner.  No fancy add-ons or extras.
[08:23] <silent_> do a search for nvidia and check for restricted modules... get the ones that match your kernel... but FIRST make sure you do a sudo apt-get update AND sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:24] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Any flash card readers? (SD xD CF etc) or zip drives or any usb devices attached?
[08:24] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: The only USB device attached is my mouse.  No card readers or zip drives.
[08:24] <Phylo> does Ubuntu come automatically with the Gnome window manager?
[08:25] <silent_> Phylo, yes
[08:25] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Can you explain the errors in a bit further detail please?
[08:25] <immanouel> ty that was i burn bootable data disc
[08:25] <silent_> Phylo, Kubuntu comes with KDE, and Xubuntu comes with XFCE
[08:25] <silent_> gravemind, try sudo mount -t hfsplus -o users,ro /dev/sdb6 /media/laCie
[08:25] <gravemind> silent_: thanks
[08:26] <gravemind> I was about to ask fo rit again
[08:26] <Phylo> will it be simple for me to install Ubuntu (I have it on CD already), then when I get it online, get rid of Gnome and use XFCE?
[08:26] <varka> llio: what package (nividia-glx, nvidia-glx-new, nvidia-glx-legacy) did you install and what type of graphiccard (geforce...) do you have in particular?
[08:26] <silent_> :) I read minds
[08:26] <edd> immanouel: now try again with nero and burn iso file
[08:26] <Khrajin> Phylo: Are you pressed for HDD space/
[08:26] <llio> varka: nvidia-glx
[08:26] <immanouel> ok ty edd
[08:26] <llio> varka: nvidia-glx & Geforce 7400go
[08:27] <Phylo> Khrajin:  I don't think so, why?
[08:27] <varka> llio: k, mom
[08:27] <silent_> bleh, I'd try nvidia-glx-new
[08:27] <gravemind> silent_: the locks have disappeared
[08:27] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: Not really.  When I start the installer, sometimes it won't do anything at all before I get the "A program crashed!" dialog.  Other times, I can get as far as choosing the partitions before the same thing happens.
[08:27] <edd> immanouel: don't forget to verify disc afterinstallation is check on the option
[08:27] <silent_> gravemind, ?
[08:27] <llio> k i'll try nvidia-glx-new
[08:27] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Do you have any PCI cards attached?
[08:27] <dhamma> can someone tell me how i can save an flv file from a flash app in firefox?
[08:27] <varka> llio: yes, do that
[08:27] <silent_> llio, did you run an update?
[08:27] <llio> silent_: yes i did
[08:27] <gravemind> silent_: in the gui, some folders had locked icons. those are now regular folder icons
[08:27] <llio> varka: ok
[08:27] <silent_> llio, good, apt-get the glx-new
[08:27] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Is the HDD that you are working with in good condition, and are you intending to reformat the whole thing?
[08:28] <immanouel> ok
[08:28] <silent_> gravemind, try transferring whatever files
[08:28] <gravemind> silent_: however, the folder I need is crossed out
[08:28] <gravemind> I'll still try it though, with gksu
[08:28] <silent_> gravemind, that's cute
[08:28] <Khrajin> Phylo: If you are not choked up for HDD space just set XCIE to be your primary session GUI. Gnome is a good backup No need to uninstall it imo.
[08:28] <gravemind> silent_: no dice. it won't copy
[08:29] <shiftplusone> hey, can someone please suggest something? When I try to play something it says the sound card is blocked even though it was working fine a few days ago.
[08:29] <silent_> Khrajin, yes, have him have gnome on his hard drive, but not use it... instead, use XFCE, which takes up space as well
[08:29] <Phylo> I'm not too sure if I'm pressed for HDD space because I don't know how much space the WM's take up
[08:29] <Phylo> are we talking GB or MB?
[08:29] <silent_> gravemind, can you copy using console? it will make your life easier
[08:29] <silent_> man cp
[08:30] <bobsumone> can i ask a stupid question now
[08:30] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: One PCI card (that I'd forgotten was in the machine and may be "odd hardware") - a Happauge WinTV card.  The hard drive was working fine in its previous life as a Windows machine, and has been wiped completely in preparation for Ubuntu.
[08:30] <Khrajin> silent_: That's what I was suggesting. :) good call
[08:30] <silent_> !ask
[08:30] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:30] <dhamma> how do you 'save as' with embedded mozilla flash player?  i need to extract audio
[08:30] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Take out the PCI card, try again.
[08:30] <excel> Phylo, well, i don't know about gnome, but i know KDE when you install it via apt takes up about 400 megabytes in downloaded packages
[08:30] <silent_> Sarcasm is lost in text
[08:30] <bobsumone> im trying to get my new linksys PCI NIC to work on my ubuntu server, but I cannot find a guide on how to add hardware via comandline, or gui for that matter
[08:30] <gravemind> silent_: when I tried in console, it gave me sudo: cd: command not found
[08:30] <silent_> cp
[08:30] <excel> or used to anyway
[08:30] <silent_> gravemind, cp
[08:31] <silent_> gravemind, man cp
[08:31] <gravemind> silent_: I was trying to cd into the directory first
[08:31] <gravemind> then I was going to cp the file
[08:31] <bobsumone> why sudo cd?
[08:31] <silent_> cd in as user, then cp as root
[08:31] <gravemind> because regular cd was permission denied
[08:31] <TakeOut{u}> sudo -i
[08:31] <bobsumone> ah
[08:31] <TakeOut{u}> then cd in
[08:31] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: I'll give it a shot.
[08:31] <gravemind> what is sudo -i
[08:31] <bobsumone> so can anyone tell me how to add this NIC?
[08:32] <tian>  /msg NickServ Register
[08:32] <silent_> bobsumone, you plug it in
[08:32] <bobsumone> i did
[08:32] <TakeOut{u}> it makes you root for more than one command gravemind
[08:32] <bobsumone> says not found
[08:32] <tian>  /msg NickServ Register  0526
[08:32] <bobsumone> dosent exist
[08:32] <bobsumone> ect
[08:32] <silent_> bobsumone, clean out pci slot
[08:32] <akant2> sudo su is better :)
[08:32] <bobsumone> i just rebooted hang on
[08:32] <silent_> akant2, afaik 'su' will suffice
[08:33] <gravemind> phix@big-ubuntu:/media/LaCie/Users/Patrick$ cd Desktop
[08:33] <gravemind> bash: cd: Desktop: Permission denied
[08:33] <gravemind> phix@big-ubuntu:/media/LaCie/Users/Patrick$ sudo cd Desktop
[08:33] <gravemind> sudo: cd: command not found
[08:33] <bobsumone> u see lspci pulls up 1 eth card
[08:33] <silent_> are you in caps?
[08:33] <excel> how can i force cpu scaling to keep my processor at 800mhz always?
[08:33] <bobsumone> damnit.... ok i hope i didn't buy a new card for a dusty PCI
[08:33] <bobsumone> but whatever, now i have a back up
[08:33] <shiftplusone> hmm.... if my wifi card messes up sometimes and starts working again when I change PCI slots.... is that likely to be 'cause of a dirty PCI slot or something?
[08:33] <silent_> excel, BIOS
[08:34] <bobsumone> shiftplusone: yes
[08:34] <bobsumone> probably
[08:34] <excel> silent_: um, no, not bios
[08:34] <shiftplusone> hmm what's a good way to clean it?
[08:34] <bobsumone> canned air
[08:34] <shiftplusone> O_o huh?
[08:34] <akant2> bucket of water :)
[08:34] <silent_> excel, I have my cpu running at 2800 mhz constant
[08:34] <excel> the system scales the processor on demand, how can i tell linux to keep it at 50% like it is right now under low load?
[08:34] <bobsumone> a big blush brush if u have a gf and she uses makeup
[08:34] <akant2> ;)
[08:34] <silent_> excel, ah I see, I misunderstood you
[08:35] <gravemind> silent_ : it lets me sudo into the /media/LaCie/Users/Patrick directory
[08:35] <inflex> what's the name of the daemon/facility that automounts things like USB flash drives / etc
[08:35] <silent_> shiftplusone, compressed air
[08:35] <bobsumone> did anyone hear of wibi yet? or wibu, something like that
[08:35] <gravemind> but not into the ./Desktop one
[08:35] <TakeOut{u}> inflex, hotplug
[08:35] <shiftplusone> yeah... looked it up.... and what's a good domestic way to clean it?
[08:35] <inflex> TakeOut{u}: tx
[08:35] <silent_> gravemind, try copying
[08:35] <Khrajin> TakeOut{u}: How do I install lamp onto a server?
[08:35] <silent_> shiftplusone, compressed air
[08:35] <silent_> shiftplusone, :P
[08:35] <inflex> TakeOut{u}: hrmm... doesn't appear to be running or availalble
[08:36] <kraut> moin
[08:36] <bobsumone> oh well fuck
[08:36] <ashish_> hi
[08:36] <bobsumone> it helps when you push the NIC cad ALLLL the way in
[08:36] <inflex> bobslaede: yeah, that happens
[08:36] <silent_> bobsumone, yeah that'll do it
[08:36] <TakeOut{u}> inflex : /sbin/hotplug ?
[08:36] <shiftplusone> tempted to use the vaccum cleaner... though that remind me of the time my bro vaccumed the cpu..... never worked again.... =/
[08:36] <inflex> TakeOut{u}: nope - any idea what apt package it's in?
[08:37] <TakeOut{u}> !info hotplug
[08:37] <edd> ciaooo guys....
[08:37] <silent_> shiftplusone, vacuums can create static, I use an air compressor
[08:37] <ubotu> Package hotplug does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:37] <excel> THE program gsynaptics is telling me You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf <-- so how do i do this?
[08:37] <inflex> O_o
[08:37] <Bayot> hi can somebody give some helpful url for installing Linux Ubuntu w/ Ati Video Card
[08:37] <crdlb> inflex, no gnome-volume-manager
[08:37] <gravemind> silent_: it might be working. The cursor is blinking at me
[08:37] <crdlb> inflex, which uses dbus and hal
[08:37] <silent_> shiftplusone, blowing with pursed, dry lips with high pressure should work, so long as you're not a 'spitter'
[08:37] <gravemind> silent_: should have done -v to find out what's going on
[08:37] <silent_> gravemind, top
[08:37] <Bayot> hi can somebody give some helpful url for installing Linux Ubuntu w/ Ati Video Card
[08:38] <crdlb> Bayot, what ati card?
[08:38] <Madpilot> ubotu, ati | Bayot
[08:38] <ubotu> Bayot: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:38] <gravemind> yeah cp is going
[08:38] <shiftplusone> ok.. i'll try that later.
[08:38] <TakeOut{u}> !info usbmgr
[08:38] <gravemind> at 15% of the cp
[08:38] <ubotu> usbmgr: user-mode daemon which loads/unloads USB kernel modules. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6 (feisty), package size 50 kB, installed size 240 kB
[08:38] <silent_> gravemind, kewl
[08:38] <Bayot> ubotu but im using Ati Video Card
[08:38] <Bayot> ubotu 9200
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 9200 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <silent_> ubotu, I WANT YOU
[08:38] <crdlb> Bayot, don't install anything then
[08:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i want you - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:38] <silent_> :O
[08:38] <NeXtDaY> I have Ubuntu 7.04. the system goes down several times without warning me? it happened alot lately? can any one tell me whats wrong please?
[08:39] <crdlb> Bayot, it'll JustWork(tm)
[08:39] <shiftplusone> Is there some linux sound problems support IRC channel somehwere?
[08:39] <TakeOut{u}> inflex : usbmgr
[08:39] <gravemind> shiftplusone: what's up?
[08:39] <crdlb> TakeOut{u}, no it's gnome-volume-manager
[08:39] <silent_> shiftplusone, chances are we might be able to help
[08:39] <Bayot> somebody give me a website to help me installing Linux ubuntu w/ Ati 9200 Video Card thanks
[08:39] <crdlb> Bayot, just install ubuntu
[08:40] <gravemind> !google > Bayot
[08:40] <crdlb> there's nothing special you need to do
[08:40] <Bayot> crdlb cant
[08:40] <silent_> Bayot, insert CD, reboot. Select Safe graphics mode
[08:40] <llio> silent_: i installed nvidia-glx-new, rebooted and got the same error ><
[08:40] <crdlb> Bayot, why not?
[08:40] <shiftplusone> Everything that worked before says the sound device is blocked
[08:40] <silent_> or use alternate cd
[08:40] <shiftplusone> using esd
[08:40] <Bayot> crdlb something error about my video card
[08:40] <excel> SO i have to "You have to set 'SHMConfig' 'true' in xorg.conf" i have the file open, where do i put the directive?
[08:40] <crdlb> Bayot, well we need the specific error
[08:40] <silent_> llio, can you check synaptic for me please, run a search for nvidia, and look for restricted modules
[08:40] <crdlb> there are /no/ drivers to install
[08:40] <shiftplusone> I asked about it yesterday... nobody said anything
[08:40] <TakeOut{u}> crdlb , no, its not, not everything runs on gnome...
[08:40] <Bayot> its Server X is not Configure Correctly
[08:40] <gravemind> shiftplusone: did your sound work out of the box or did you have to install it somehow
[08:40] <crdlb> TakeOut{u}, that's what ubuntu uses
[08:40] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Progress?
[08:40] <shiftplusone> gravemind: out of the box
[08:41] <Bayot> crdlb the error is Server X is not Configure Correctly
[08:41] <TakeOut{u}> crdlb well then i stand corrected :)
[08:41] <Khrajin> How do I setup LAMP on an Ubuntu Server 7.04 system after it has been loaded?
[08:41] <gravemind> Bayot: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf then find the driver and change it to vesa
[08:41] <TakeOut{u}> Khrajin, you really should have selected the option to do it whilst it was installing
[08:41] <crdlb> Bayot, did it fail  to work on the livecd?
[08:42] <Bayot> yes crdlb
[08:42] <gravemind> shiftplusone: so you did something and it stopped working?
[08:42] <Khrajin> TakeOut{u}: How can I check if I did?> I may have.
[08:42] <shiftplusone> gravemind: lsof and fuser doesn't give any output either
[08:42] <shiftplusone> gravemind: not that I recall
[08:42] <crdlb> Bayot, you'll have to use the alternate cd then I guess
[08:42] <crdlb> but you shouldn't be having any problems with a 9200
[08:42] <Bayot> i install ubuntu a month ago w/ the help of the website
[08:42] <crdlb> are you sure it's a 9200?
[08:42] <Bayot> but now i forgot
[08:42] <gravemind> shiftplusone: wow, that's a strange problem. Maybe you should try to find some linux people with more sound experience
[08:42] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: It can't possibly be related, but now it seems that my LiveCD won't boot at all.
[08:42] <Bayot> what website is that
[08:42] <crdlb> !alternate
[08:43] <Bayot> yes my video card is 9200 256MB
[08:43] <gravemind> unless someone else here knows what to do. sorry.
[08:43] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Double check you didn't bump your IDE and Power cables when you were uninstalling the PCI card.
[08:43] <shiftplusone> gravemind: thanks though
[08:43] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[08:44] <gravemind> shiftplusone: sure. it took me a long time to figure out my sound wasn't working because the kernel had been updated, and I needed to install the drivers again. mine didn't work right out of the box
[08:44] <Bayot> i really need
[08:44] <Bayot> that websitw
[08:44] <crdlb> Bayot, just use the alternate cd
[08:44] <Bayot> i dont have the alternate CD
[08:45] <Bayot> u know the url of basic installing of ubuntu w/ ATI video card
[08:45] <gravemind> silent_: wow, cp is still going
[08:45] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: How long ago did you download/burn the CD in question?
[08:45] <crdlb> it's supposed to /just work/
[08:45] <crdlb> I have no idea what website you're talking about
[08:45] <shiftplusone> gravemind: hmm.... nuh it was still working after the last kernel update...
[08:45] <Bayot> aw
[08:45] <crdlb> unless you have a much newer card than a 9200
[08:45] <silent_> gravemind, if you're copying a lot of stuff it will...
[08:45] <gravemind> silent_ does hfsplus take a long time to copy from or something? with usb
[08:46] <silent_> I've never heard of hfsplus
[08:46] <gravemind> silent_ I would have used firewire, but it didn't work
[08:46] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: This copy, I burned this afternoon.
[08:46] <Phylo> what specs are needed to run Beryl reasonably?
[08:46] <gravemind> silent_ it's what macintosh uses
[08:46] <Khrajin> gravemind: ithere are still physical limits, usb 1,1 vs 2,0 etc
[08:46] <crdlb> Phylo, depends on the video card make
[08:46] <silent_> gravemind, ew.
[08:46] <shiftplusone> ok, another question >.> .... I am using the 64bit version... is there a flash player for it that actually works? tried gnash.... works 10% of the time.
[08:46] <Phylo> ATI Radeon Xpress X200M
[08:46] <gravemind> Khrajin: I think it's 2.0
[08:46] <Khrajin> gravemind: How much data needs to be xferred?
[08:46] <sacater> hi I got a disc from a friend, but it is quite bad in the sense that there are fingerprints on it etc, what can I do to get it to work in my pc, because at the moment its not even being read
[08:46] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: OK... Have you checked the cables?
[08:47] <Phylo> sacater:  download a new one
[08:47] <gravemind> why do you think firewire didn't work though. maybe the port has died. I'm copying 50 GB
[08:47] <Bayot> nevermind i found i already
[08:47] <crdlb> Phylo, that works but you have to use Xgl :(
[08:47] <Phylo> download Ubuntu as an .iso and burn a new copy
[08:47] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: Yes.  Everything seems OK.
[08:47] <Bayot> thanks for help crdlb
[08:47] <sacater> Phylo: its too big, thats why he did it for me, anything else I could try?
[08:47] <Khrajin> gravemind: Firewire ports are known to die often
[08:47] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: Trying another reboot now.
[08:47] <Khrajin> Khrajin: Have you got to the point of the partition editor?
[08:47] <Phylo> tell him to do it again, without grabbing the cd
[08:47] <youshotwhointhew> hello, does anyone know how to get sshfs to work with symbolic links?
[08:47] <Khrajin> lol
[08:48] <silent_> wow I'm tired...
[08:48] <gravemind> Khrajin: aww, that's too bad. I never got to use it before it broke. STop talking to yourself : )
[08:48] <sacater> Phylo: :( there must be some kind of recovery program
[08:48] <silent_> I woke up at 6:30
[08:48] <Khrajin> gravemind: :x
[08:48] <crdlb> Bayot, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/BerylOnXgl and Method A of the linked CompositeManager/Xgl guide
[08:48] <Khrajin> gravemind: Firewire ports die amazingly often. USB FTW
[08:48] <gravemind> Khrajin: lol. I thought usb was slower though
[08:48] <silent_> Khrajin, USB 2.0, specifically
[08:48] <excel> HOW TO MAKE GSYNAPTICS WORK!?
[08:49] <Khrajin> gravemind: The simple plugging/unplugging action wears out the connector within about 100-200 connections
[08:49] <silent_> excel, caps wont make it work...
[08:49] <crdlb> Bayot, err sorry
[08:49] <excel> pardon the yelling, but i wasn't get any attention otherwise
[08:49] <Phylo> sacater:  I don't even know what you want, but I'm new to Ubuntu myself
[08:49] <gravemind> excel: what is gsynaptics
[08:49] <Khrajin> gravemind & silent_: While Firewire has a bandwitdth of 480mbs and USB 2.0 has a bandwidth of 400mbs, in actuality the throughput of both are about equal. There is no benefit of Firewire.
[08:49] <crdlb> Phylo, see what I posted for Bayot above
[08:49] <sacater> oh k
[08:49] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: Hrm.  Perhaps I did jostle something.  It has booted now.  Lauching the installer.
[08:49] <Phylo> crdlb:  I am :-)  I thought it was for me at first
[08:49] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: :D
[08:49] <youshotwhointhew> anyone here have some experience with SSHFS?
[08:50] <silent_> Khrajin, exactly! :) and more devices use usb
[08:50] <Khrajin> silent_: and it's a hell of a lot less likely to kill a USB port.
[08:50] <gravemind> Silent_ Khrajin: ah, that makes sense. what about the difference between firewire 400 and 800?
[08:50] <crdlb> Phylo, it was, but I'm tired :P
[08:50] <youshotwhointhew> or FUSE
[08:50] <silent_> gravemind, twice the chance of a burnt-out port?
[08:50] <Khrajin> gravemind: Don't know. I imagine it is faster, but Firewire is soo sensitive that you can pass ESD through the ESD shielding of a cable and fry a port.
[08:51] <gravemind> silent_ lolz I don't think that's the point : )
[08:51] <llio> silent_: i dont see any restricted stuff when i searched for nvidia in synaptic
[08:51] <silent_> gravemind, seemed like a reasonable assumption
[08:51] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: OK, so, I start the installer, the window appears for less than a second, and then I get the "Crash report detected" dialog.
[08:51] <freeza> Khrajin: other way around, fw is 400, and usb2 is 480
[08:51] <silent_> llio, AHA
[08:51] <llio> silent_: ..
[08:51] <silent_> llio, enable restricted repository plox
[08:51] <gravemind> Khrajin: lol seems like firewire is just stupid
[08:51] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Um...
[08:51] <Khrajin> gravemind: It is. :D
[08:51] <gravemind> Khrajin: doesn't even have power supplyh
[08:52] <CaptainMorgan> assuming that fstab is setup correctly, why would the Win partition be showing up on the desktop instead of within /mnt/windows ?
[08:52] <Khrajin> freeza: Thanks. But both are about the same throughput
[08:52] <freeza> not really
[08:52] <gravemind> CaptainMorgan: assume nothing!
[08:52] <llio> silent_: its already enabled
[08:52] <youshotwhointhew> no one with SSHFS knowledge?
[08:52] <freeza> usb2 throughput degrades after time when handling large files
[08:52] <llio> silent_: there is a check mark beside it in my repo settings
[08:52] <CaptainMorgan> gravemind, I can gain entry to the Win partition via the desktop's folder
[08:52] <gravemind> youshotwhointhew: it's some kind of fs using ssh?
[08:52] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Look into the boot options, F1, see if there is anything pertaining to your system. Also, look to see if there is a no-gui install, text only, old school.
[08:52] <freeza> fw is always constant at its top speed
[08:52] <CaptainMorgan> so at least something is correct
[08:53] <gravemind> CaptainMorgan: sounds to me like it's being mounted somewhere in the /media directory
[08:53] <silent_> When I switched to Ubuntu I thought that I'd be inconvenienced with buggy, featureless software.... In actuality, I found most of the utilities available better than anything I used in windows... and I'm VERY picky about software
[08:53] <youshotwhointhew> gravemind: it is for mounting remote directory with ssh
[08:53] <gravemind> CaptainMorgan: check fstab to make sure it's going where you want
[08:53] <silent_> llio, have you enabled all repos?
[08:53] <freeza> thats why people that do video editing and do drive caching in photoshop and the suck use firewire drives
[08:53] <gravemind> youshotwhointhew: I just learned ssh last week. I don't know how to do that. Sorry
[08:53] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Actually, wait.
[08:54] <CaptainMorgan> gravemind, I take that back, it's shown withing the home folder's 'places' tab, then when clicked it asks for admin password, if success then it mounts to the desktop
[08:54] <youshotwhointhew> gravemind: ok, thanks though
[08:54] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Unplug all your HDDs and then try to load up Ubuntu LiveCD
[08:54] <nbhoanh> I've installed ubuntu 7.04 on toshiba satellite A100, destep effects work with compiz/xgl but not beryl, who can help me
[08:54] <excel> AH SNAP
[08:54] <excel> er
[08:54] <llio> silent_: yes i did
[08:54] <excel> caps
[08:54] <freeza> speed never degrades on firewire no matter the file size, while usb2 is more for burst transfers of small files
[08:54] <Phylo> wow, I'm not the only one
[08:54] <excel> apt kept my tcp stack in a loop untill it stopped
[08:54] <excel> then this entire channel flooded me at once
[08:54] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: OK, I'll give it a shot.  What am I looking to have happen?
[08:54] <gravemind> freeza: so if I plug in the firewire plug and it doesn't work, that means the computer's port is broken? or could it be a software problem?
[08:54] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: To see if it loads up all the way or gives the error again.
[08:55] <_Codeman_> I'm having problems compiling and installing LUFS, I think I keep getting compiler errors (lemme know if ya wanna see them)
[08:55] <gravemind> freeza: it works fine on the iMac
[08:55] <silent_> llio, the modules HAVE to be there
[08:55] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: We are seeing if the detection is having a fit when it reads the HDD.
[08:55] <excel> gsynaptics is a synpatics mousepad tool, i need to use it to enable my scroller and DISABLE my tap clicking, but it required an x11 config mod that i don't know how to do
[08:55] <silent_> llio, search for only nvidia "nvidia"
[08:55] <Khrajin|showerbr> brb real quick
[08:55] <freeza> gravemind: the kernel might not have support for the specific fw chipset you have
[08:56] <silent_> llio, package is linux-restricted-modules
[08:56] <freeza> see if theres a driver for it
[08:56] <gravemind> freeza: first finding out what kind I have, right?
[08:56] <freeza> yep
[08:56] <|LeOn|> hey, i want to kompile a new kernel on  my ubuntu desktop, how do i export the .conf from the ubuntu kernel that is installed?
[08:56] <llio> silent_: o i searched for only the name and not the description haha.. yes i found it
[08:56] <gravemind> ugh it's 3 am here
[08:56] <CaptainMorgan> gravemind, you're correct - it is being mounted within /media but why? here's fstab: http://pastebin.ca/527225
[08:56] <silent_> make sure the version matching your kernel is installed
[08:56] <gravemind> I'll do it later
[08:56] <excel> gsynaptics is a synpatics mousepad tool, i need to use it to enable my scroller and DISABLE my tap clicking, but it required an x11 config mod that i don't know how to do
[08:57] <llio> silent_: ok
[08:58] <baudthief> Is there any way to modify ubuntu's clipboard behaviour? It's annoying as hell when the clipboard clears once the application closes
[08:58] <furenku> hello does anyone know of a good app to convert a .wav into an mp?
[08:58] <baudthief> audacity
[08:58] <freeza> gravemind: if you really want to see fw in action over usb2 just copy 20gb of stuff from your drive to each of the externals, and see which one will finish faster
[08:59] <gravemind> CaptainMorgan: weird. i don't know why it would go to /media if you tell it to go to /mnt
[08:59] <gravemind> CaptainMorgan: can you mount it manually to the /mnt location
[08:59] <CaptainMorgan> gravemind, it's very weird, never seen it like this, this is a new system install, and that is a known-good fstab
[09:00] <CaptainMorgan> gravemind, little rusty on the mnt commands.. oblige ?
[09:00] <silent_> I never really understood the fixation around transfer speeds to external devices... chances are your system can't maintain IO of 400mb/s from your hard disk...
[09:00] <gravemind> lets see... it's sudo mount [device name]  [mountpoint] 
[09:00] <reverseblade> which one is better virtualbox or vmware ? I need to run some 3D applications and I don't want to lose my OS after a kernel upgrade. What do you suggest ?
[09:01] <silent_> what kinds of things can I expect to happen by running the new .16 kernel?
[09:01] <gravemind> so you'd have sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[09:01] <shiftplusone> 'night
[09:01] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: Well, that's new.  LiveCD is asking me for a username.
[09:02] <gravemind> night
[09:02] <deye> hello all
[09:02] <silent_> oh wow... I love sobe arush... just when I think I need to sleep it's there to give me a kick in the balls
[09:03] <CaptainMorgan> gravemind where'd you go??
[09:03] <CaptainMorgan> error on mount: mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[09:05] <_Codeman_> Does anyone here even use LUFS :P
[09:06] <ManuP> hi! what is the difference between feisty fawn and dapper drake beside the first is newer?
[09:06] <sethk> ManuP, the second is older
[09:07] <ManuP> ^^ as my argument imlied...
[09:07] <ManuP> does any of the versions includ beryl?
[09:07] <sethk> ManuP, true, but tautologies are permitted
[09:07] <Khrajin|showerbr> MightyMatt: Uh, interesting. Try admin?
[09:07] <quannum> ManuP: Feisty does
[09:07] <anilomkar> Hi all, How to install realplayer plugin for firefox in feisty.?
[09:08] <ManuP> quannum, ok. i will try it.
[09:08] <quannum> ManuP: Lots of security fixes, hardware support and optimisations since dapper...
[09:08] <_Codeman_> what does ">" prompt mean when I do ./configure?
[09:09] <sethk> _Codeman_, what are you configuring?
[09:10] <quannum> _Codeman_: probably that you mis-hit a key - CTRL-C and try again
[09:11] <Khrajin|showerbr> _Codeman_:  your real name cody?
[09:11] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: Tried rebooting when all the combos I tried didn't work.  Now it won't boot at all.
[09:12] <_Codeman_> no, it's TJ
[09:12] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Is the HDD and the CDRom on the same ide cable?
[09:12] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: No.
[09:12] <bobslaede> !xubuntu
[09:12] <ubotu> xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[09:12] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Do both comeup in Bios?
[09:13] <_Codeman_> got it tho thanks :D
[09:13] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: Yes.
[09:13] <smuggler8> when installing ubuntu 7.04 (alternative iso) via dvd-r the setup procedes as normal but then is unable to mount cdrom drive. Is there a common reason for this?
[09:14] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Hmm.
[09:15] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Dumb thing try swapping the IDE cables so that if your cdrom was in master to slave and vice versa
[09:15] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: I'm pretty sure they're both set to cable select, but I'll double-check.
[09:15] <Khrajin> _Codeman_: oh ok
[09:15] <Khrajin> MightyMatt: Set them both to Master
[09:17] <Tarkus> hey, anyone know how i can change my keyboard media buttons (play/pause/mute/etc..) to be for banshee instead of rythymbox?
[09:18] <_Codeman_> I've compiled the latest source for LUFS both from the repository and from the site and I get these (http://pastebin.tj-coding.com/17) errors every time :/
[09:18] <_Codeman_> can anyone help?
[09:19] <sethk> _Codeman_, looking
[09:19] <Khrajin> Assuming I installed LAMP on an Ubuntu SErver, how do I get Apache running to host a website for the outside worled ot access?
[09:19] <sethk> _Codeman_, mismatch, the LUFS source is not compatible with this kernel version.  Might have to use an earlier kernel, or perhaps download source that's more up to date
[09:19] <Tarkus> in other words how do i set defaults for applications?
[09:20] <Tarkus> like connect media with banshee, internet with firefox, mail with thunderbird, etc...
[09:20] <necr0mancer> Khrajin: it should be up and running automatically, I think.
[09:20] <_Codeman_> sethk: thanks for looking :D, unfortunately that's the most current source there :/
[09:20] <_Codeman_> is*
[09:20] <Khrajin> necr0mancer: How do I configure Apache then?
[09:21] <necr0mancer> Khrajin: Uh... /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?
[09:21] <sethk> _Codeman_, you can look at the source and try to add an argument to the call.
[09:21] <necr0mancer> something like that.
[09:22] <_Codeman_> o_O
[09:24] <CapriCorn^80> hi i have installed ubuntu 6.10 gnome . now i want to install kde on it
[09:24] <CapriCorn^80> how can i do that ?
[09:24] <smuggler8> with Ubuntu 7.04 alternative install i get the following message "The installer cannot figure out how to install the base system. No installable CD-Rom was found and no valid mirror was confirmed."
[09:24] <flowingfire> have you tried sudo apt-get install kde?
[09:24] <necr0mancer> CapriCorn^80: sudo apt-get install kde
[09:24] <smuggler8> how do i overcome this?
[09:24] <CapriCorn^80> ok thx
[09:25] <spiderman_> hi there   im trying to connect MS blue tooth keyboard in ubuntu 7.0.4 and getting error Can't create HID control channel: Connection refused ... can any one tell me what to do
[09:25] <endo2016> hey everyone.  I am interested in setting up some form of RAID solution.  Havent bought the HW yet.  Anyone have suggestions ... capacity, brand, etc ... ?
[09:26] <flowingfire> garage sale hard drive found in dead computer-- great for a raid solution...
[09:26] <flowingfire> hehe
[09:26] <endo2016> thanks
[09:28] <Defient> has anyone connected to DALnet recently?
[09:29] <Defient> seems the servers are down
[09:29] <spiderman_> hi there   im trying to connect MS blue tooth keyboard in ubuntu 7.0.4 and getting error Can't create HID control channel: Connection refused ... can any one tell me what to do
[09:29] <spiderman_> ?
[09:30] <krinns> can i add printer on Ubuntu from command line
[09:30] <Khraji> Back like a heart attack. :)
[09:30] <Khraji> necr0mancer: hola
[09:30] <Khraji> MightyMatt: Any thing new?
[09:30] <necr0mancer> Hi.
[09:31] <Khraji> necr0mancer: http://70.191.82.58/ :D
[09:31] <sethk> krinns, you can, yes, but it is a bit tricky
[09:31] <necr0mancer> Awesome.
[09:31] <_doswell> during an install of ubuntu 7.04 a pop up "low memory mode",Ishut down the install, and the machine went blank,Is it tehCR2032 battery gone out on the motherboaed or what?
[09:31] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: I was wrong about the jumpers.  Got them both set to master and restarting now.
[09:31] <flowingfire> yeah just ust cups graphical interface... much easier
[09:31] <Khraji> MightyMatt: :) ok.
[09:31] <spacechicken> G'Day al
[09:31] <krinns> how
[09:31] <spacechicken> all
[09:31] <Khraji> necr0mancer: Now how about settingup an FTP server?
[09:31] <krinns> sthk
[09:31] <krinns> will do dont woory
[09:32] <spacechicken> anyone have any luck installing Ubuntu server (6 or 7) on an x3250?
[09:33] <necr0mancer> hm.. I've actually never worked with ftp server, sorry
[09:33] <krinns> sethkh actually that ubuntu machine is remote n one of my printer is paused
[09:33] <Khraji> What service would I use with the ftp server?
[09:33] <sethk> krinns, you just want to enable it?
[09:33] <krinns> how i resume all printing remotely b/c only i have root pass
[09:34] <krinns> i want that paused printer to resume printing
[09:34] <sethk> krinns, you can connect to CUPS on the remote system by pointing a browser at http://###.###.###.###:631    where ###'s are your IP address (the ip address of the remote box)
[09:34] <CheshireViking> _doswell, how much memory does the computer have?
[09:34] <necr0mancer> Khraji: I've asked a friend and was told proftpd is good for ftp server
[09:34] <necr0mancer> sudo apt-get install proftpd
[09:34] <Khraji> k ty
[09:34] <_doswell> 512
[09:35] <krinns> any other way to do
[09:35] <_doswell> oh, wait when it crashed it had 276,,, I put in another 276 stick.
[09:36] <sethk> krinns, try using lpadmin
[09:36] <_doswell> to no avail...
[09:36] <Khraji> Installed proftpd
[09:36] <krinns> hai
[09:36] <flowingfire> sacater-- wow!
[09:36] <CheshireViking> _doswell, ok, was just checking, 256Mb is the minimum recommended, might just be worth trying the install again, does the machine start up ok?
[09:36] <krinns> what abt if i add a user in lpadmin group
[09:37] <_doswell> i just haven't had the money to buy more batteries...
[09:37] <Khraji> heh I have made progress today
[09:37] <_doswell> no, it seems it has lost itsBIOS
[09:38] <Khraji> I've made my network ssh accessible with login and also able to VNC over SSH
[09:38] <Khraji> MightyMatt: keep trying, look into command-line based install
[09:38] <Khraji> gnight ya'll
[09:38] <CheshireViking> _doswell, if its lost bios, it sounds like it might be the battery, probbaly worth replacing it & trying again
[09:38] <MightyMatt> Khrajin: g'night.  Thanks alot.
[09:38] <Khrajin|sleep> MightyMatt: np gl
[09:38] <Libere> Anyone know of anywhere to download an older version of flash that will work with the Opera Browser?  Google comes up with nothing.
[09:39] <flowingfire> libere: Do it the linux way and self-engineer your own version of flash that's compatible with Opera!
[09:39] <Libere> flowingfire: I'm not *that* good yet. :-p
[09:40] <_doswell> ok, thanks it will have to wait till next 20 of june when I get my allowence..., but thank you...
[09:40] <sacater> flowingfire: that wasnt on purpose, my stupid brother did it
[09:40] <flowingfire> lol ok sacater
[09:40] <Libere> I <3 my opera, and disabling plugins just isn't it.
[09:40] <sacater> flowingfire: ignore it
[09:40] <KnowledgEngineer> !datalog
[09:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about datalog - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:41] <KnowledgEngineer> someone use DataLog ?
[09:43] <flowingfire> You know, Ubuntu is the only single distribution of the many I've been trying recently where my wireless card just WORKS... lol
[09:44] <sacater> ignore any funny quit messages i may be displayed, my brother messed with my irssi :(, im fixing it
[09:44] <flowingfire> just a little praise for ubuntu
[09:44] <sacater> displaying*
[09:44] <Libere> Is there an oldversion.com equilvent for linux plugins and software?
[09:45] <sacater> Libere: you mean newer software designed to work on older distros
[09:45] <E42> what do you think about this laptop ? http://www.ciao.co.uk/Fujitsu_Siemens_AMILO_D_1845__5790091 - is it good , i mean i dont have much money and i need one ;p
[09:46] <CapriCorn^80> sudo apt-get install kde . its giving me msg . Package KDE is not available . but is referred to by another package. This may mean that package is missing , has been obsoleted or is only available from another source . E: Package kde has no installation candidate
[09:46] <sacater> help set
[09:46] <Libere> sacater: No, I mean somewhere that hosts old versions of plugins.
[09:46] <Libere> I'm looking for an older version of flash, specifically.
[09:46] <flowingfire> capricorn: Hmm....
[09:47] <CapriCorn^80> flowingfire: wat should i do ?
[09:47] <ncd> Man
[09:47] <ncd> I just found a bad bug in fiesty
[09:47] <flowingfire> what's that ncd?
[09:48] <echo1> i'm italian user, so excuseme for the english, BUT if i start totem, the ubuntu go in crash!! why??
[09:48] <CapriCorn^80> flowingfire: any suggestion for me ?
[09:48] <ncd> something nuked my grubs custom entrys and replaced them with the default ones
[09:48] <ncd> last thing i did was get some updates
[09:48] <ncd> come back this morning and grub is missing my shiz
[09:48] <flowingfire> capricorn: do u know how to install new repositories?
[09:49] <CheshireViking> echo1, if you have trouble here with english, you could always try joining #ubuntu-it, but your english looked ok
[09:49] <flowingfire> ... another thing you could try is installing a program that has KDE as a dependency... Ubuntu will actually go through all the steps to install KDE if you do I think.. lol...
[09:49] <CapriCorn^80> i updated my system
[09:50] <echo1> CheshireViking: thanks!
[09:50] <studman69> dtjg
[09:50] <krinns> setnk how i resume my printer
[09:50] <FroggeRay> hi all ,I want to install ubuntu 7.0.4 on my laptop(amd 64, ipw2100) ,but the install cd
[09:50] <studman69> yo
[09:50] <krinns> from command line
[09:50] <FroggeRay> stop at the detect network
[09:50] <studman69> you may asdfklj
[09:50] <FroggeRay> how can I skip that step
[09:50] <CapriCorn^80> flowingfire: how can i update that ???
[09:51] <studman69> FUCK ME
[09:51] <FroggeRay> it keeps telling me " ipw2100: failed to start the card"
[09:51] <FroggeRay> I almost mad about that
[09:51] <FroggeRay> plz help!!
[09:51] <flowingfire> one sec...
[09:51] <ncd> flowingfire, I reported that to correct place right?
[09:52] <FroggeRay> anyone can help?
[09:52] <flowingfire> ncd: there's a bug forum you need to report that to
[09:52] <ncd> I cant be assed with all that whats the dev channel?
[09:53] <CapriCorn^80> flowingfire: ...
[09:54] <pirx> hey, how do i list all installed packages with apt?
[09:54] <crimsun> pirx: don't.  Use `dpkg -l`
[09:54] <CapriCorn^80> sudo apt-get install kde . its giving me msg . Package KDE is not available . but is referred to by another package. This may mean that package is missing , has been obsoleted or is only available from another source . E: Package kde has no installation candidate
[09:55] <pirx> crimsun: thanks!
[09:55] <ncd> ha
[09:56] <ncd> crimsun, aptitude.
[09:56] <ncd> er i mean pirx
[09:56] <pirx> ncd: thats gui right?
[09:57] <pirx> ouch, just started it, looks horrible:)
[09:57] <pirx> and cant use it with grep, so it goes away:)
[09:58] <ncd> ok lol
[09:58] <ncd> apt-cache showpkgs
[09:58] <ncd> apt-cache pkgnames
[09:59] <ncd> apt-cache stats
[09:59] <ncd> all == goodies for grep ;D
[10:00] <pirx> thanks!
[10:01] <ncd> god bless debian
[10:01] <_doswell> AmyRose, go to #AmyRose
[10:03] <CaptainMorgan> howdy
[10:04] <Defient> hello
[10:04] <Defient> someone needs to start a #medical
[10:05] <flowingfire> someone needs to start a #freaking tired
[10:05] <reverseblade> uhh automatix broke my system
[10:05] <CaptainMorgan> !tell CaptainMorgan Hi
[10:06] <ncd> reverseblade, what did it do?
[10:06] <CheshireViking> reverseblade, i guess thats why uboto doesn't like it
[10:06] <reverseblade> CheshireViking, strange
[10:07] <nullmind> how can I install the Gecko thing for wine?
[10:07] <reverseblade> CheshireViking, I am also a fairly experienced user
[10:07] <reverseblade> it reallyt screwed up
[10:07] <nullmind> (i cannot use automatix)
[10:07] <ncd> That would be the thing that took it upoun it self to rewerite menu.lst for grub
[10:07] <ncd> or not?
[10:07] <thssch> hi
[10:08] <reverseblade> it crippled my debian repo
[10:08] <reverseblade> I mean local one
[10:08] <ncd> ah its packages related
[10:08] <bugmenot> hello. how to remove gaim without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[10:08] <CaptainMorgan> flowingfire, automatix ?
[10:08] <thssch> anyone knows how to execute firefox over ssh? In difference to galeon etc it somehow always runs with a local profile instead of the remote one (however that is possible)
[10:09] <tondar> FF 2.0.4 available for ubuntu feisty ?
[10:09] <flowingfire> captainmorgan: The one and only.... And yes I do have an automatix horror story or two but it still rocks
[10:09] <CaptainMorgan> tondar, I haven't been able to receive it
[10:09] <ncd> man apt is brilliant system.. but just like double barrel shot gun!
[10:09] <inflex> ncd: yeah
[10:10] <ncd> with a dogey firing spring
[10:10] <inflex> just installed Qucs with it... awesome
[10:10] <tondar> CaptainMorgan: o
[10:10] <inflex> slackware since 1995
[10:10] <inflex> can't see myself going back now
[10:11] <ncd> you didnt try debian once ?
[10:11] <inflex> I did, several times - and other distros
[10:11] <ncd> kk heheh ;)
[10:11] <inflex> but Feisty was the first time that everything just rolled out nicely for me
[10:11] <ncd> jk
[10:12] <ncd> ah yeah your'e damn straight on that.. ever try suse?
[10:13] <fargiolas> !backports
[10:13] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[10:13] <ncd> you should of found a similar level of tight integration in Suse 10... but a more corporate feel but lacking the debian package leetness
[10:14] <fargiolas> do ubuntu backports include new packages that entered gutsy? or they just include new versions of feisty packages?
[10:14] <inflex> ncd: I did try SuSE a couple of times - never got the hang of it
[10:15] <DarkED> fargiolas: i think they they are just new versions of old packages
[10:15] <ncd> yeah .. things wernt tuned as nice ubuntu ...but then I never tryed the early ubuntu's
[10:15] <DarkED> fargiolas: that's just a guess though, you'd have to ask someone @ ubuntu i guess
[10:15] <fargiolas> DarkED: tnx
[10:16] <DarkED> fargiolas: hey, no problem ... i think :)
[10:16] <fargiolas> :)
[10:16] <DarkED> i came to ubuntu during the breezy days
[10:16] <DarkED> and i see some of the same packages in backports... this is why i say this
[10:17] <ncd> I can imagine based on the outcome of some debian installations that suse  might of had the edge (this was 2 years back)
[10:17] <DarkED> ncd: yeah, Suse actually HAD the edge for a while
[10:17] <DarkED> suse 9 was a big deal in it's day
[10:18] <flowingfire> !sex
[10:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sex - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <ncd> this ubuntu is a little bomb shell for the world ;)
[10:24] <rohan> did the -16 kernel build disable libATA ?
[10:24] <jackal_> how can i get my audio to work?
[10:24] <ncd> load the correct module jackal
[10:24] <kritzstapf> jackal_: could you be a little bit more precise? :/
[10:25] <jackal_> I have on board nvidia sound card and it doesn't produce sound
[10:26] <jackal_> Actually i have a M2N-SLI Deluxe board
[10:26] <friendly12345> sudo lspci -v
[10:26] <ncd> hm
[10:27] <friendly12345> or just sudo lspci
[10:27] <jackal_> anyone have any suggestions?
[10:27] <kritzstapf> or just lspci :D
[10:27] <ncd> I have the same board ... non deluxe... sound worked out of the box.. the new kernels blanket cover intel/nvidia and shiz in one swoup so that should of worked out of the box..
[10:28] <jackal_> well i also have a Creative Xfi card installed as well
[10:29] <kritzstapf> jackal_: maybe its just muted?
[10:29] <jackal_> no i looked
[10:29] <ncd> does the onboard start working when you take out the xfi
[10:29] <kritzstapf> so what does the mixer say, does it show the correct card and the channels?
[10:31] <Ayabara> I run ati graphics with a dual-head setup. When I switch desktops, I want it to change on both monitors. Anyone know how? Currently I can switch desktops independently on the two monitors.
[10:33] <bcarm17> help
[10:33] <bcarm17> i can't get opera 9 to load to ubuntu 5.10
[10:34] <reubs> hey guys, I'm trying to copy a directory from a partition that i made (from xp) after i installed ubuntu, but i can't seem to do it with out admin access, to access it in the file browser it asked me for the admin password, i gave it, it worked, i can see it all. but when i try to to somewhere other than my home dir, it fails due to access rights.
[10:34] <reubs> how can i get around this
[10:35] <DarkED> reubs: run this command:
[10:36] <DarkED> sudo nautilus
[10:36] <DarkED> that will run nautilus file manager as su, which should allow you to access those files
[10:36] <bcarm17> u talking to my DarkED
[10:36] <DarkED> no, reubs, that's why i said reubs :)
[10:37] <bcarm17> sorry
[10:37] <DarkED> bcarm17: no problem
[10:37] <reubs> DarkED: thanks, its working now, i thought it was natilus, but it wouldn't auto complete the name from the command line. thanks heaps mate.
[10:38] <DarkED> reubs: sure thing, good luck with whatever yer doin
[10:38] <bcarm17> DarkED: can u help
[10:38] <DarkED> bcarm17: with what?
[10:38] <NickGH> hey all
[10:38] <NickGH> i've got a REALLLY big problem that I am hoping someone can help me with....
[10:38] <bcarm17> i can't get opera 9 to install on ubuntu 5.10
[10:39] <DarkED> bcarm17: oh
[10:39] <DarkED> bcarm17: sorry man, i know nothing about it
[10:39] <NickGH> .... I've got windows installed on a Dell Inspiron 6000 and cannot for the life of me get 7.04 to boot from the install CD
[10:39] <rohan> NickGH: why ? is it trying to boot, and some error in burn ?
[10:39] <bcarm17> ca u tell me who does
[10:39] <NickGH> (and the only reason I have windows installed is because I installed it hoping that would allow me to load windows)
[10:39] <rohan> NickGH: or you can't get the laptop to boot from cd ?
[10:39] <DarkED> NickGH: you need to get into the BIOS and change it to boot CD first
[10:39] <NickGH> i've been through all the obvious: the cd verifies the checksum, and i've confirmed it works in another laptop
[10:40] <NickGH> the laptop boots from other bootable cds
[10:40] <DarkED> NickGH: most Dell systems have it disabled by default as a security measure
[10:40] <NickGH> i've even tried putting the install onto a USB key...
[10:40] <DarkED> oh
[10:40] <DarkED> so it just wont boot ubuntu
[10:40] <NickGH> yeah!!
[10:40] <DarkED> thats weird :)
[10:40] <NickGH> but it boots into the 6.06 cd fine
[10:40] <NickGH> that's my last resort... install that then upgrade...
[10:40] <DarkED> um well... i guess you burned the iso correctly?
[10:41] <NickGH> yeah.. checksum is right, and works on other laptops...
[10:41] <NickGH> i dont understand how it could do this.. unless it is hardware/rom problem
[10:41] <bcarm17> _max_: can u help
[10:41] <kahrytan> NickGH: Whats wrong
[10:41] <DarkED> NickGH: i have no clue man
[10:41] <NickGH> just wont boot into 7.04 from the cd..
[10:41] <NickGH> in fact, it wont even recognise the cd when i put it into the drive when booted up into windows
[10:42] <rohan> NickGH: then it's a problem in burning, or in the cd media itself
[10:42] <gordonjcp> NickGH: flaky CD drive?
[10:42] <NickGH> can i boot from 6.06 somehow and then switch cd's, and then install 7.04?
[10:42] <kahrytan> Is the cd burned good?
[10:42] <gordonjcp> or as rohan says, a knackered CD
[10:42] <rohan> NickGH: the cd drive and media might not paly along
[10:42] <gordonjcp> NickGH: you could install 6.06 and then upgrade
[10:42] <NickGH> yeah, that is the only possible thought that i could think of... i've been spending HOURS on this...
[10:42] <gordonjcp> NickGH: have you tried another CD?
[10:43] <kahrytan> Did you verify the cd?
[10:43] <SoftIce> sorry, how long are the release cycles for?
[10:43] <SoftIce> how many months ?
[10:43] <rohan> 6
[10:43] <kahrytan> SoftIce: Depends on the release
[10:43] <rohan> for normal releases
[10:43] <kahrytan> !release
[10:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[10:43] <DarkED> NickGH: if it comes to upgrading 6.06 to 7.04, i will just say that it's not the best way ... but it worked for me ;)
[10:43] <rohan> 3 years on desktop for LTS, SoftIce
[10:43] <NickGH> yes - verified cd, and tried other cd's
[10:43] <NickGH> ie boots with windows cds fine
[10:43] <rohan> NickGH: but as you say, even windows does not recognize the cd
[10:43] <SoftIce> 12 months, hmmm
[10:43] <rohan> SoftIce: no, 18
[10:44] <rohan> for normal releases
[10:44] <NickGH> yeah - ive been running 7.04 on the lappy already, and had upgraded from 6.06.. but wanted a fresh install
[10:44] <kahrytan> NickGH: Does autoplay work in Windows?
[10:44] <rohan> NickGH: can you see the cd contents in windows
[10:44] <NickGH> no.. wont even mount the cd
[10:44] <rohan> ?
[10:44] <NickGH> no
[10:44] <DarkED> bad burn?
[10:44] <kahrytan> bad burn
[10:44] <rohan> NickGH: try burning again ?
[10:44] <DarkED> NickGH: yeah sounds like you just burned a coaster
[10:44] <kahrytan> That's a bad burn
[10:44] <NickGH> nope, dont think so.. burnt 3 copies, verified the checksum, and verified the cd works on two other computers
[10:45] <DarkED> NickGH: make sure you burn it as an ISO, not as a data cd
[10:45] <Intertricity> Anyone heard of gnome-terminal stop working?
[10:45] <Intertricity> I can't open it anymore.
[10:45] <kahrytan> How can you checksum if it wont mount?
[10:45] <NickGH> the checksum verification when you bootup should let you know if there are any issues with the cd, right?
[10:45] <DarkED> hmm, maybe it's his CD drive
[10:45] <beasty_> anyone inhere has a asrock alivenf6g-dvi mobo ?
[10:45] <Intertricity> I restarted my x session and still nothing.
[10:45] <Intertricity> xterm works though
[10:45] <NickGH> yeah - burnt as an iso through gnomebaker
[10:45] <Kigh> hi all.  does somebody know why ubuntu has a "127.0.1.1" and a "127.0.0.1" entry in /etc/hosts?  after i updated the kernel on feisty(7.04) my X11 lagged totally ... 5-10 seconds for a terminal window. i resolved this by removing the unneeded "127.0.1.1" in /etc/hosts
[10:45] <CheshireViking> NickGH, sounds like you need to burn a fresh copy of the cd, possibly at a slower speed (4x), thats been suggested in the past
[10:45] <Ayabara> Can I use xinerama with the fglrx driver?
[10:45] <kahrytan> Kigh: There's no place like him. thats your localhost address.
[10:46] <kahrytan> *home
[10:46] <NickGH> i'll try burning one more time, but i'm very dubious as to whether that is the case.. my guess is it is bad hw/rom on my lappy
[10:46] <Kigh> kahrytan: read again.
[10:46] <NickGH> inspiron 6000.. anyone else had issues?
[10:46] <Kigh> NickGH: had no issues with inspiron 6400
[10:46] <NickGH> shit
[10:46] <BFTD> hi, my wireless jsut stopped working for some reason
[10:46] <NickGH> ok.. i'll try again
[10:46] <rohan> Kigh: that's the correct way. 127.0.1.1 points to your "hostname" nd 127.0.0.1 to localhost
[10:46] <kahrytan> Kigh: It's probably something else
[10:47] <BFTD> it won't get an IP address when it tries to connect
[10:47] <NickGH> what would really help is if someone could tell me how to do a 7.04 install after booting from the 6.06 cd
[10:47] <DarkED> ] 
[10:47] <DarkED> \
[10:47] <ncd> NickGH, have you tryed with noapic etc ?
[10:47] <DarkED> \
[10:47] <DarkED> \
[10:47] <DarkED> \
[10:47] <Kigh> rohan: no its not.  "hostname" and "localhost" should BOTH point to "127.0.0.1"
[10:47] <DarkED> er sorry
[10:47] <NickGH> what is noapic?
[10:47] <ncd> "nodma"
[10:47] <DarkED> that was an accident
[10:47] <NickGH> (I even tried using the alternative install cd)
[10:47] <rohan> Kigh: no. atleast that's what i read somewhere on the forums
[10:47] <Kigh> rohan: it confues X11 totally after kernel update
[10:47] <kahrytan> What is 127.0.1.1?
[10:47] <Kigh> *confused
[10:47] <DarkED> kahrytan: your loopback device
[10:47] <kahrytan> awe. I see.
[10:48] <Kigh> kahrytan: should be the same as every 127.0.X.X address, but i had issues with that
[10:48] <DarkED> kahrytan: yeah, 127.0.0.1 is commonly jusy 'you'
[10:48] <ncd> you must pass them to the kernel its self to turn of apic and dma
[10:48] <DarkED> just* even
[10:48] <Kigh> DarkED: you confuse 127.0.0.1 with 127.0.1.1 =)
[10:48] <ncd> I dont know how to tell you to do it from the boot screen
[10:48] <sp4rKy> hi
[10:48] <kahrytan> my computer has the same ip address.
[10:48] <NickGH> i dont even get the boot screen
[10:48] <DarkED> Kigh: you sure? i'm pretty sure it's 0.0.1
[10:49] <kahrytan> always
[10:49] <NickGH> doesnt find the cd
[10:49] <Kigh> DarkED: yes, but he asked for 0.1.1
[10:49] <DarkED> Kigh: oh! lol sorry, i misread!
[10:49] <ncd> then its the laser or the source media or prehaps a bios fault
[10:49] <sp4rKy> how can i run script at session startup ? (but not in the ~)
[10:49] <NickGH> yeah
[10:49] <NickGH> maybe laser having issues reading the boot sector on linux disc, but is okay for the windows disc...
[10:49] <NickGH> fug that for a joke
[10:49] <kahrytan> NickGH: You try other cds?
[10:49] <NickGH> yeah
[10:50] <NickGH> 3 or 4 other windows cd's boot fine
[10:50] <NickGH> but .. even the 6.06 ubuntu boots fine
[10:50] <NickGH> this is confusing.
[10:50] <ncd> ha wouldnt supprise me NickGH .. you will note on game box's these days that your dvd-rom is obsoleted by a crudy copy protection system
[10:50] <CheshireViking> ncd, not sure who you were talking to about passing noacpi at boot, if its the livecd, you press F6 and add the paramater to the end of the boot  line
[10:50] <Kigh> does ubuntu have a developer channel on freenode?
[10:50] <kahrytan> NickGH: But how can you checksum it if you cant mount it?
[10:51] <NickGH> i verified it on another computer.. dell desktop
[10:51] <ncd> NickGH, see if there might be firmware upgrade possibility
[10:52] <spaz> hmm
[10:52] <NickGH> yeah - that was going to be my next option - firmware upgrade
[10:52] <ncd> for both drive and bios
[10:52] <kahrytan> NickGH: Doesnt work on both computers?
[10:52] <NickGH> i had a quick look last night, but didnt' find any.. will look again
[10:52] <NickGH> no, works on dell desktop okay
[10:52] <NickGH> laptop, no joy.
[10:52] <ncd> tnx for that factiod CheshireViking
[10:52] <kahrytan> NickGH: So it's hardware.
[10:52] <Kigh> NickGH: tried another copy of the CD?
[10:52] <spaz> i had problems booting from my HD, do i decided to fsck it from a live cd
[10:52] <spaz> now it's showing this:
[10:52] <spaz> *out
[10:53] <NickGH> ah, good point ncd - about the drive firmware upgrade.. very good idea.. the HDD sucks on the insp6000... too slow
[10:53] <NickGH> kigh - numerous copies
[10:53] <kahrytan> NickGH: Too bad you can test cd drive on desktop
[10:53] <kahrytan> cant
[10:53] <CheshireViking> Kigh, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat thats a list of the channels on irc for Ubuntu, there is #ubuntu-devel, but not sure if thats what you're looking for
[10:53] <spaz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23558/
[10:53] <Kigh> NickGH: thats riddiculous .. i assume to have the same type of drive as you .. ispiron 6400 with dvd+rw burner
[10:53] <spaz> any ideas?
[10:53] <spaz> :/
[10:53] <NickGH> mm.. 6400 was a year newer, right?
[10:54] <Kigh> CheshireViking: thx alot =) i was too lazy to search on the website
[10:54] <CheshireViking> Kigh, :)
[10:54] <NickGH> should i change the gnomebaker's burn mode off 'auto' to anything else?
[10:54] <Kigh> NickGH: maybe .. dunno
[10:55] <Kigh> spaz: did you do what the output suggested? e2fsck -b 8193 <device> ?
[10:55] <spaz> yes
[10:56] <Kigh> to what result?
[10:56] <spaz> same thing
[10:56] <omickal> hi! please tell me, how i can change in beryl in 3d cube up and down images?
[10:56] <Kigh> are you really really sure this is partition has an ext2/3-FS? are you sure its the right device?
[10:57] <kritzstapf> omickal: beryl-setting
[10:57] <kritzstapf> s
[10:57] <spaz> i know for a fact it's an ext3 fs
[10:57] <spaz> and yes, i'm certain it's the right device
[10:57] <omickal> kritzstapf: ok, but where?
[10:58] <Ayabara> !xinerama
[10:58] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[10:58] <Kigh> spaz: then your hdd may be broken. do a low-level scan for defect sectors
[10:58] <spaz> k
[10:58] <Ayabara> !DualHead
[10:58] <BFTD> argh
[10:58] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[10:58] <kritzstapf> omickal: desktop cube settings, caps
[11:00] <omickal> kritzstapf: all right, i found this option, thanks
[11:01] <OracleGD> Blah
[11:04] <NickGH> any suggestions how to use the 7.04 cd once booted from 6.06 cd?
[11:04] <NickGH> i tried just doing a umount, but no good
[11:04] <NickGH> can i do a boot into a command line from 6.06 somehow, then change into the 7.04 cd and just install from there?
[11:06] <bcarm17> help
[11:07] <MariusAZ> nooooO!!!!
[11:07] <thrope> hello: i've had nothing but trouble since the 2.6.20-16 kernel upgrade... first trouble with X but I fixed that and now it sometimes doesn't detect some of my drives and boots into a funny state where the root partition is mounted read-only (although mount reports rw) - anyway I would like to remove all traces of 2.6.20-16 and go back to 2.6.20-15 - how can I do this?
[11:08] <defcon> Nick_Hill, do a dist_upgrade
[11:08] <defcon> apt-get install dist-upgrade
[11:08] <thrope> how do I roll back packages like linux-restricted-modules etc to match the previous kernel version, and remove only the current version? thanks
[11:08] <Ubuntu-user123> can some help me
[11:08] <Ayabara> anyone using the fglrx driver with dual-head ?
[11:08] <sacater> today!
[11:08] <sacater> sorry
[11:09] <sacater> rwong chan
[11:09] <Ubuntu-user123> i reconfigure xserver-xorg using sudo dpkg-reonfigure xserver-xorg
[11:09] <Ubuntu-user123> but theres a prompt
[11:09] <Ubuntu-user123> after i reconfigure what command will i do
[11:09] <BFTD> yeah, what;s gone wrong with this channel?
[11:09] <BFTD> thrope show me the ls of /boot
[11:09] <defcon> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:10] <Ubuntu-user123> its say on the prompt
[11:10] <Ubuntu-user123> something overwrite
[11:11] <thrope> BFTD: its on a different machine, but I have abi, config, initrd.img, System.map and vmlinuz for all versions from 2.6.17-10 386 and generic
[11:11] <captaintrips> i dont get this, i got kismet started with no errors, but it doesnt scan or find any networks. but if i do iwlist scan it sees them fine
[11:12] <Ubuntu-user123> someone help me
[11:12] <BFTD> thrope restart the OS and hit esc when grub shows up, select an older kernel, then edit grub and remove the newer one
[11:12] <captaintrips> have been working on this all day and the most i got is kismet with no networks :\
[11:12] <BFTD> thrope its the safest way
[11:12] <Ubuntu-user123> captaintrips
[11:13] <Ubuntu-user123> captaintrips can u help me
[11:13] <captaintrips> probably not, but ill try. whats up?
[11:13] <Phylo> can someone help me get connected to the internet?
[11:13] <Dabaconboy> yer me 2
[11:13] <captaintrips> lol
[11:13] <thrope> bftd: thats fine - im pretty comfortable with that stuff... but how do I roll back my module packages (nvidia, vmware etc in linux-restricted-modules) to the 2.6.16-15 versions?
[11:13] <spaz> new error: "fsck.ext3: Filesystem has unsupported feature(s) while trying to open /dev/hdc1"
[11:13] <spaz> hmm
[11:14] <spaz> what features, exactly... >_>
[11:14] <vanechen> Hello all
[11:14] <spaz> hey
[11:14] <ncd> NickGH, if you can boot a different dist then surely its the source media
[11:14] <Phylo> I've had help before and the helper-personature determined that the problem was bad domain name servers
[11:14] <Ubuntu-user123> captaintrips reconfigure xserver using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but in the end theres a prompt showing me what command should i do
[11:14] <ncd> in which case which program burned fiesty?
[11:14] <sleepster> how come ubuntu 7 has support for 2008 but ubutuntu 6 has support until 2009
[11:14] <sleepster> isn't ubuntu 6 olde
[11:14] <ncd> if you say any thing other then k3b at this point try again
[11:14] <captaintrips> not a clue
[11:14] <captaintrips> sry
[11:15] <Ubuntu-user123> aw
[11:15] <Ubuntu-user123> help me pls
[11:15] <BFTD> thrope I'm not sure, you'd have to look at synaptic
[11:15] <captaintrips> i cant even get my wireless scanner working, let alone reconfigure my kernel
[11:15] <captaintrips> lol
[11:15] <CheshireViking> sleepster, are you looking at ubuntu 6.06, thats a Long Term Support version, while the other versions are updated every 6 months
[11:15] <Ubuntu-user123> waaah help me
[11:16] <ncd> another thing if you want to be really leet NickGH
[11:16] <sleepster> CheshireViking oh i see.. what does it mean byt long term support?
[11:16] <ncd> is md5 the iso
[11:16] <Ubuntu-user123> hello
[11:16] <thrope> bftd: thanks - i know that - I just wanted to see if anyone knew how to do it...
[11:16] <hounietd1> hi. i need help here
[11:16] <ncd> make sure its not mangled but burnable
[11:17] <BFTD> thrope most likely, but people that smart don't waste there time here
[11:17] <Phylo> what is google.com's IP?
[11:17] <Ubuntu-user123> hey
[11:17] <Ubuntu-user123> help me
[11:17] <ikonia> Ubuntu-user123: ask a question then
[11:17] <Ubuntu-user123> cant run my ubuntu live cd
[11:17] <hounietd1> erm..i burned 7.04 but when i install and reboot, the grub bootloader got error..how to solve?
[11:17] <sleepster> google.com is mapped to several different IPs
[11:17] <CheshireViking> Ubuntu-user123, from what you said, it sounds like after you run the dpkg-reconfigure command, it redoes your xorg.conf file and the prompt its asking you to overwrite is whether you are sure you want the new file its just generated to replace the original one
[11:17] <ikonia> Ubuntu-user123: more ingo please
[11:17] <Dabaconboy> hey guys it is possible to change the gateway on the network tools when the configure button is grayed out
[11:17] <hounietd1> i nid help pls
[11:17] <Ubuntu-user123> ikonia i try to recoonfigure using sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:18] <Ubuntu-user123> ikonia but theres a prompt in the end
[11:18] <ikonia> Ubuntu-user123: not a great idea on the livecd
[11:18] <Ubuntu-user123> i dunno what command wil i exeute
[11:18] <hounietd1> help....
[11:18] <CheshireViking> !lts | sleepster
[11:18] <ubotu> sleepster: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[11:18] <Ubuntu-user123> so what will i do
[11:18] <Ubuntu-user123> to run xserver
[11:18] <TakeOut{u}> startx
[11:18] <sleepster> but what does it mean to be "supported"
[11:18] <Ubuntu-user123> what command
[11:18] <hounietd1> some help needed here
[11:19] <ikonia> hounietd1: ask the question then so we can respond
[11:19] <ikonia> hounietd1: just saying help help gets you no-where
[11:19] <Ubuntu-user123> my xserver cant run coz of my ati vid card so i update my Live CD and reconfigure X but theres a prompt
[11:19] <Ubuntu-user123> what should i do w/ that prompt
[11:20] <gypsymauro> hi
[11:20] <ikonia> Ubuntu-user123: install ubuntu using the alternate cd
[11:20] <Ubuntu-user123> i already did
[11:20] <gypsymauro> someone uses vpnc with network manager? It doesn't works here
[11:20] <ikonia> Ubuntu-user123: so why are you using the livecd
[11:20] <user20> hello everybody can i install ardour in my ubuntu dapper?
[11:20] <NickGH> hmm, i'm convinced its not the source media.. i've downloaded the iso twice, from two seperate locations, and burnt it on 1x speed, and confirmed it works on 3 other computers, and also verified the checksum upon startup...
[11:20] <ikonia> user20: is there a package in the repo
[11:20] <hounietd1> erm okay...erm i burned ubuntu 7.04 but when i install and reboot, grub shows error and refuses to boot untill i used a 6.04 disc and install ver 6.04
[11:21] <Ubuntu-user123> its still same problem
[11:21] <ikonia> hounietd1: whats the error
[11:21] <user20> what do you mean package?im new in my ubuntu
[11:21] <ikonia> Ubuntu-user123: what are you talking about ?
[11:21] <hounietd1> erm...error 15
[11:21] <Ubuntu-user123> cant run x server both
[11:21] <hounietd1> and once 21
[11:21] <ikonia> Ubuntu-user123: no I know your lying to me, as the alternate cd doesn't use X
[11:21] <user20> where can i fing it
[11:21] <NickGH> what do you think ncd, can only be either the iso is wrong, or the hardware is broken?
[11:21] <Ubuntu-user123> NO
[11:21] <ikonia> hounietd1: it looks like grub is selecting the wrong partition
[11:21] <ikonia> !grub >hounietd1
[11:21] <Ubuntu-user123> theres a problem in my vid card
[11:22] <ikonia> hounietd1: that url should help
[11:22] <pplastik> good day!
[11:22] <hounietd1> ??
[11:22] <hounietd1> url?i aint see any..
[11:22] <ikonia> hounietd1: ubotu has just sent you a pm
[11:22] <ikonia> pplastik: hey
[11:22] <hounietd1> thx...
[11:22] <pplastik> can anyone explain to me why upgrading to ubuntu 7.04 i lost the ability to change my screen resolution higher than 600x800
[11:23] <spheard> Does anyone know if/when wireless networking with ndiswrapper is going to be fixed in 7.04?
[11:23] <user20> can i use sudo to install ardour?
[11:23] <Ubuntu-user123> just want to run using LiveCD now then install after
[11:23] <ikonia> pplastik: your video card drivers probably need updating. Check the linux-glx package has been upgraded
[11:23] <CheshireViking> sleepster, Release 6.06 LTS, codenamed "Dapper Drake", is the first Long Term Support release of Ubuntu. Canonical intend to support LTS releases with updates longer than other Ubuntu releases. Package updates are planned and paid technical support is available for three years on the desktop and five years on the server. This addresses the concerns of people in business and publishing of needing to upgrade too frequently.
[11:23] <ikonia> Ubuntu-user123: if your drivers arn't supported - you can't use it
[11:23] <ikonia> user20: is there a package in the repo
[11:23] <Ubuntu-user123> but i run ubuntu last month
[11:23] <Ubuntu-user123> using same desktop pc
[11:23] <ikonia> Ubuntu-user123: obviously a different version
[11:24] <Ubuntu-user123> i just forgot what command
[11:24] <user20> ya it says commercial
[11:24] <Ubuntu-user123> in that prompt
[11:24] <ikonia> user20: yeah just do it
[11:24] <Ubuntu-user123> after configuring x
[11:24] <ikonia> ubuntu dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:24] <user20> ok tnx
[11:24] <Ubuntu-user123> after i configure x that command ?
[11:24] <ikonia> Ubuntu-user123: ctrl+alt+backspace will restart x
[11:25] <jackson_> #ubuntu-fr
[11:25] <Ubuntu-user123> thanks
[11:25] <Ubuntu-user123> it works
[11:25] <hounietd1> any singaporean in here?
[11:25] <ikonia> hounietd1: why ?
[11:26] <reubs> hey guys, i'm running fullscreen 3d apps(nvidia) on duel monitors, i either get one monitor with a screen size greater than my resolution, requiring me to scroll around. or the app scretched over both displays. anyone got any experience in this sort of thing?
[11:26] <user20> i have downloaded the ardour in my desktop and i dont know how to install this
[11:26] <ikonia> reubs: sound like you config is just not spot on
[11:26] <ikonia> user20: why have you downloaded it to your desktop, just use synaptic to install it
[11:27] <user20> then what to type
[11:27] <ikonia> user20: open synapic and install it from the internet like every other package
[11:27] <user20> ok i try now
[11:27] <HarryMax> lo folks. I am setting up my ubuntu server and need a little help with the networking. I need to add a gateway/dns that is on a different subnet from my own. can anyone help?
[11:27] <ikonia> HarryMax: route add
[11:27] <Ubuntu-user123> ikonia just ask after i reconfigure x then hit ctrl+alt+bckspace it will restart X only
[11:28] <captaintrips> ARG!!!!   wifi hates me, cant get kismet working. and airsnort gives me "wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported"
[11:28] <ikonia> Ubuntu-user123: correct
[11:28] <Ubuntu-user123> ok
[11:28] <HarryMax> I've been trying "sudo route add default gw 192.168.113.1"
[11:28] <ikonia> HarryMax: you can only have 1 default gateway
[11:29] <HarryMax> but it returns "SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable"
[11:29] <user20> how about the jack
[11:29] <reverseblade> anyone experience with qemu , vmware or  virtualbox  ? which one is better ?
[11:29] <HarryMax> yep i think i need to open a route to the gateway on eth0 (i have two)
[11:29] <user20> where can i find the JACK
[11:30] <Phylo> I installed Ubuntu on a laptop, I plugged into my router via ethernet cable, I click firefox, enter www.google.com and it cannot load the page
[11:31] <captaintrips> wtf does wlanctl-ng: Operation not supported mean?
[11:31] <Phylo> What do I do to setup my connection?
[11:31] <user20> ardour needs jack where can i find jack
[11:31] <captaintrips> i do iwpriv and montiro mode is supported
[11:31] <captaintrips> so what gives?
[11:31] <melchior7> Phylo, network manager
[11:31] <user20> or perhaps download jack
[11:32] <hounietd1> erm another help..i am haing a 1000mbps internet..why ubuntu cant achieve that kind of dl speed..i try alot of site but all cant reach that speed
[11:32] <pitillo> hello good morning. Anyone know if is there any vrml  package in ubuntu?
[11:32] <polbit> Can I ask about the firefox?
[11:32] <pitillo> (remaking the Q.... is there any package to see any vrml)
[11:33] <HarryMax> anyone have any more ideas for my gate way issue?
[11:33] <ikonia> captaintrips: please don't use phrases like wtf
[11:33] <Slart> hounietd1: I doubt you have a full gigabit connection to the internet
[11:33] <ikonia> HarryMax: 1.) show me netstat -rn  2.) your default gateway has to be reachable
[11:33] <polbit> I have this error when I install the FireFox...post-installation script    127 
[11:33] <polbit> libqt3-mt (3.3.4-8ubuntu5.2)   ...
[11:33] <polbit>    :
[11:33] <polbit>  mozilla-firefox-locale-ko
[11:33] <polbit> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:33] <user20> ok i found jack then how cn i run jack
[11:33] <captaintrips> got it ikonia, any ideas tho?
[11:33] <hounietd1> erm no..while on windows, i could attain that kind of speed but not on ubuntu
[11:33] <TakeOut{u}> hounietd1, when you get to a certain bandwidth, its more a problem of servers not having the bandwidth than yourself
[11:33] <ikonia> captaintrips: not read yet
[11:34] <n2diy> ! ko \ polbit
[11:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ko \ polbit - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:34] <HarryMax> netstat: no support for `ip_masquerade' on this system.
[11:34] <n2diy> ! ko | polbit
[11:34] <ubotu> polbit: For Korean help, /join #ubuntu-ko
[11:34] <ikonia> HarryMax: sudo netstat -rn
[11:34] <Slart> hounietd1: how did you test this speed?
[11:34] <HarryMax> i thought i could open a route to the gateway on the other subnet
[11:34] <HarryMax> kinda like a hardcoded route
[11:34] <Carb0n> hi, anybody know why there's no /etc/inittab in my feisty
[11:34] <ikonia> HarryMax: you can, but the default route has to be reachable, so if the default route is on another subnet it won't be reachable
[11:35] <HarryMax> invalid option -M
[11:35] <ikonia> !upstart | carb0n
[11:35] <ubotu> carb0n: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[11:35] <NickGH> ncd - i used gnomebaker to do the burn
[11:35] <hounietd1> oh, i am in singapore..erm and singapore internet plan are really fast...on windoes, my dl speed could reach 1000mbps..
[11:35] <pplastik> ikonia: how do i check if i have the linux-glx upgraded or not?
[11:35] <HarryMax> sorry -m
[11:35] <ikonia> HarryMax: READ -r n not m
[11:35] <HarryMax> sorry!
[11:35] <Carb0n> ikonia: thanks
[11:35] <ikonia> pplastik: look in synaptic at the version
[11:35] <NickGH> ncd - any ideas how i can install from 7.04 after booting into 6?
[11:35] <HarryMax> Kernel IP routing table
[11:35] <HarryMax> localnet        *               255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 eth0
[11:35] <user_> uuu
[11:35] <user_> u
[11:35] <user_> u
[11:35] <user_> uuuu
[11:35] <HarryMax> localnet        *               255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 eth1
[11:36] <Carb0n> ikonia: when did it change?  Was it same in Dapper (I didn't look)
[11:36] <user_> u
[11:36] <ikonia> Carb0n: edgy
[11:36] <HarryMax> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
[11:36] <ikonia> user_: please stop that
[11:36] <Slart> hounietd1: downloading at 1 gigabit? you have some kind of monster harddrive that can handle all that data?
[11:36] <user_> vciaooooooooo
[11:36] <ikonia> HarryMax: use a pastebin
[11:36] <ikonia> hounietd1: your not connected to the internet at 1 GB
[11:37] <Carb0n> ikonia: thats why, I jumped from Dapper to Feisty.  Anyway lemme read thru
[11:37] <hounietd1> yeap..that is singapore...and 1000mbps is on selected site..my plan is capable of 1.2mbps
[11:37] <HarryMax> http://pastebin.ca/527441
[11:37] <Slart> hounietd1: but anyways.. regardless.. the windows drivers for your network card might just be better than the one available on ubuntu... linux isn't best at everything =)
[11:37] <ikonia> Carb0n: when you say jumped do you mean installed clean or upgraded
[11:37] <hounietd1> but linux is still better than windows from what i see
[11:37] <ikonia> HarryMax: that url is wrong
[11:37] <pplastik> ikonia: i cant find linux-glx in synaptic using search
[11:38] <Carb0n> ikonia: Installed clean (had to re-partition to allot more space)
[11:38] <hounietd1> now i am painfully dl updates to 6.10 rather slow...
[11:38] <ikonia> Carb0n: phrew, that upgrade causes massive problems. Just checking
[11:38] <user20> can anybody pls help me on how to run jack on my ubuntu dapper i need to launch ardour but he needs jack
[11:38] <Carb0n> ikonia: :)
[11:38] <ikonia> !nvidia >pplastik
[11:39] <TakeOut{u}> !nvidia | pplastik
[11:39] <ubotu> pplastik: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:39] <HarryMax> http://paste.uni.cc/15972
[11:39] <ikonia> TakeOut{u}: you saw me send him the message, why do it again
[11:39] <hounietd1> 1 question..is ubuntu upgrade also very slow?
[11:40] <ikonia> hounietd1: depends on many things
[11:40] <Slart> hounietd1: depends on the server your updating from
[11:40] <Slart> hounietd1: among other thing
[11:40] <ikonia> HarryMax: you need to add a default gateway that is reachable, you may need to use the -i interface option too as your dual homes
[11:40] <Slart> hounietd1: among other things
[11:40] <ikonia> homed
[11:40] <hounietd1> slart
[11:40] <hounietd1> let pm
[11:40] <ikonia> hounietd1: stop complaining, just sit back
[11:40] <hounietd1> too many ppl chating making me confused
[11:40] <ikonia> hounietd1: let it update
[11:40] <Slart> sure
[11:41] <HarryMax> ikonia: will a gateway on a different subnet ever be reachable?
[11:41] <hounietd1> sorry..i am just not used to it...
[11:41] <ikonia> HarryMax: no
[11:41] <ikonia> hence why you need to use a gateway to go onto differenet subnets
[11:41] <Slart> !pm
[11:41] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[11:41] <Slart> hmm.. !register
[11:41] <Slart> !register
[11:41] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:41] <HarryMax> I can't hard code a route to it?
[11:41] <ikonia> HarryMax: not really - as it won't be able to get there, so whats the point
[11:42] <ikonia> HarryMax: why hardcode a route to a gateway that will never be reachable
[11:42] <Slart> bah.. hounietd1, you know you have to be registered to use pm, right?
[11:42] <hounietd1> opps..i am sorry
[11:43] <HarryMax> My problem is that my linux server is an internal server for backend processes so it is on an internal subnet. I would like it to be able to get updates from the internet, so I am trying to connect i tto the GW on the main subnet
[11:43] <ikonia> then you need a gateway to the main subnet
[11:43] <ikonia> HarryMax: you need a box on your subnet that is connected to the main subnet
[11:43] <HarryMax> ie with two network cards, one on each net?
[11:43] <ikonia> yup
[11:44] <Ajits> what is default path of apache config file in ubuntu?
[11:44] <ikonia>  /etc/apache2
[11:44] <Enselic> What program are there that have visual (side by side) svn diff functionality?
[11:44] <ikonia> svndiff
[11:44] <HarryMax> hmm
[11:44] <xtreon_> how do I epty the trashcan whit sudo ?
[11:44] <ikonia> right click on the trash can, click empty
[11:44] <xtreon_> ikonia,  access dinied
[11:45] <xtreon_> denied*
[11:45] <ikonia> xtreon_: are you running as an unusual user ?
[11:45] <Madpilot> Enselic, search Synaptic for SVN - there are a couple of graphical SVN frontends
[11:45] <Ajits> apache config file name in linux is httpd.conf (Am I right)
[11:45] <Madpilot> Ajits, yes
[11:45] <xtreon_> ikonia,  I need root access, where is the traschcan folder located in the filesystem?
[11:45] <lekang> Im trying to use gtkterm to connect to a switch over the serial interface. Resulting only in "ttyS0: LSR safety check engaged!" in all logs. Any suggestions?
[11:45] <ikonia> Ajits: apache2.conf
[11:45] <Phylo> I'm trying to connect wirelessly, I setup my wireless connection in the network manager, but I cannot connect.  When I look at my domain name servers it only lists "192.168.1.1" (my router), and "Search Domains" just has "domain_not_set.invalid"
[11:45] <ikonia> xtreon_: you don't need root access
[11:46] <xtreon_> ikonia, some files in it belong to root
[11:46] <xtreon_> anyone know where the trashcan folder is located in the filesystem? need root acces to empty it
[11:47] <ikonia> xtreon_: then thats user error on your part, no files that are owned as root should be deletable by a non-privileged user
[11:47] <jeansch> xtreon_: ~/.Trash
[11:47] <xtreon_> jeansch, cheers
[11:47] <xtreon_> ikonia, well, its probably me that has used sudo to delete some file that belongs to root
[11:48] <Phylo> what should those be set to?
[11:48] <ikonia> Phylo: your domain
[11:48] <Phylo> and that would be?
[11:49] <Enselic> Madpilot: hmm, preciely which one are you thinking of?
[11:49] <Madpilot> Enselic, evidently I'm not thinking much at all... ikonia was correct, not me.
[11:49] <HarryMax> ikonia: is  it possible to add an ip address to my eth0 so it is on both subnets?
[11:50] <ikonia> HarryMax: you can, but without a gateway to the other subnet your card will be useless
[11:50] <Phylo> what do you mean by my domain
[11:50] <wf_c0d3r> hello there could you help me in installing ltsp in ubuntu
[11:50] <hounited1> i am back
[11:50] <Enselic> ikonia: I can't find svndiff in Ubuntu repos, is it there?
[11:51] <HarryMax> my boss is doing something with the nat box to make a gw for the internal
[11:51] <ikonia> Enselic: its part of the subversion package
[11:51] <HarryMax> hurrah!
[11:51] <Enselic> ikonia: I don't seem to have it :/
[11:51] <ikonia> install it
[11:51] <HarryMax> thanks for your help
[11:51] <Ajits> Is it possible to access internet from my PC through GPRS enabled handset in ubuntu.
[11:51] <xtreon_> lol, ~/.Trash is no empty but there still is 2 files in the X trashcan :S
[11:51] <Enselic> ikonia: I have subversion and subversion-tools, but I don't have svndiff
[11:51] <Phylo> ikonia:  if I do set new values, won't those values be reset when I reboot?
[11:52] <ysop> hi, my firefox could not download .run-files, firefox is opening them.. could anyone help me out ?
[11:52] <smuggler8> what is the method for upgrading ubuntu edgy to fiesty via alternative install CD/DVD
[11:52] <ikonia> Enselic: how strange, maybe its not included in ubuntu's build
[11:52] <ikonia> Phylo: depends on your config
[11:52] <DgrMouse> where do i find the logs to see why my apache server is failing to start?
[11:52] <jrib> xtreon_: external drives may have their own .Trash*
[11:52] <Enselic> ikonia: how did you get it?
[11:52] <ikonia> DgrMouse: /var/log
[11:52] <ikonia> Enselic: I'm not on ubuntu on this box, and I don't use svn on ubuntu so I've not tried
[11:52] <ikonia> Enselic: I may start
[11:52] <Enselic> ikonia: ...
[11:52] <jrib> xtreon_: why not just go to file -> empty trash  in nautilus?
[11:52] <Enselic> ikonia: thanks anyway
[11:52] <xtreon_> jrib, oh, thats right this files was located on the fileserver
[11:53] <ikonia> xtreon_: what does that have to do with anything
[11:53] <Phylo> ikonia:  I've solved this problem before with someone's help from here.  They had me fix a file (sudo gedit ????) to remove a command in some system file pertaining to this
[11:53] <ikonia> Phylo: I don't see how its a problem
[11:53] <xtreon_> jrib, need root access, how do I lanch the nautilus-trashcan whit sudo?
[11:54] <jrib> xtreon_: gksudo nautilus, then press ctrl-l and visit trash:///
[11:54] <smuggler8> how do i upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 via alternative CD? I have no net access on that system
[11:54] <jrib> !upgrade > smuggler8 (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:54] <Phylo> ikonia:  okay, how do I know what address to type when it I add a dns?
[11:54] <xtreon_> jrib, "trash:///"?
[11:55] <ikonia> Phylo: you get it from your dhcp server
[11:55] <xtreon_> jrib, looks epty here 2
[11:55] <DgrMouse> ikonia: where in /var/log do i look? there is nothing in the apache folder to show the error why it's not starting
[11:55] <Phylo> I have it automatically using DHCP, but it's putting my router's IP in which does me no good at all
[11:55] <ikonia> DgrMouse: check the syslog and messages
[11:55] <Ajits> Is it possible to access internet from my PC through GPRS enabled handset (i am new to linux installed ubuntu at my pc and Nokia 6630)
[11:55] <ikonia> Phylo: how do you know your router is not acting as your dns server
[11:56] <jrib> xtreon_: hmm, I'm guessing file -> empty trash  says it is empty as well then?
[11:56] <DgrMouse> ikonia: the latest syslog?
[11:56] <ikonia> DgrMouse: /var/log/apache2/error.log
[11:56] <Phylo> ikonia:  I assume it's not meant to because it isn't working as is.  I cannot load the page http://www.google.com/
[11:56] <DgrMouse> ikonia: it doesn't tell me why it failed :(
[11:56] <ikonia> Phylo: what happens if you type "nslookup www.google.com"
[11:57] <xtreon_> jrib, yeh :)
[11:57] <ikonia> DgrMouse: show me the log in a pastebin
[11:57] <jrib> xtreon_: but if you run nautilus as your user and visit trash:/// it is not empty?
[11:57] <DgrMouse> ikonia: not sure how to do a pastebin.. is that a msg?
[11:57] <ikonia> !pastebin
[11:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:57] <DgrMouse> kool. will do
[11:57] <Phylo> ikonia:  ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
[11:58] <ikonia> Phylo: seems reasonable to assume that its not working. Contact your ISP or router vendor to find out why its not giving you the correct dns settings
[11:58] <hounited1> great..upgrade left 1hr more...it kept changing..doe ubuntu host it's upgrade file everywhere around the world?
[11:58] <xtreon_> jrib, It I click the trashcan icon in X there is 2 files that belong to root in it... this files was located on my fileserver
[11:59] <jrib> xtreon_: but does that show you the same thing as nautilus trash:/// as your user?
[11:59] <xtreon_> jrib, but both trash: and ~/.Trash is empty
[11:59] <xtreon_> jrib, no, nothing there
[11:59] <jrib> xtreon_: hmm, what trash can is this?  The one on the panel?
[12:00] <Phylo> ikonia:  does it matter that it works for the computer I'm on here?
[12:00] <xtreon_> jrib, no clue, the fileserver is down, or at least not sharing the old disks so it must be local
[12:00] <ikonia> Phylo: yes, sounds like your dhcp client is not asking for dns servers
[12:00] <ikonia> Phylo: check your dhclient.conf
[12:00] <DgrMouse> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23564/
[12:01] <jrib> xtreon_: it opens a nautilus window right?
[12:01] <Phylo> THAT'S what it was!  do you know what folder that's in?
[12:01] <letmeinman> how do i make windows load by default? other users in this house are um.. slow and need windows on by default
[12:01] <ikonia> DgrMouse: apache is running fine
[12:01] <ikonia> DgrMouse: thats why you can't see any error message
[12:01] <letmeinman> im using xubuntu
[12:01] <DgrMouse> it fails on restart
[12:01] <letmeinman> default install
[12:01] <xtreon_> jrib, yes, but a much better looking one that what gksudo nautilus opens
[12:02] <jrib> letmeinman: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and edit the line that starts with "default" appropriately.  Note that numbering starts with 0
[12:02] <letmeinman> thanks
[12:02] <jrib> xtreon_: it should be the same thing you get when you run "nautilus trash:///" as your user though.  Can you press "reload" on the trash can that has files in it and are they still there?
[12:02] <ikonia> DgrMouse: apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[12:02] <ikonia> [Fri Jun 01 02:13:04 2007]  [warn]  NameVirtualHost *:0 has no VirtualHosts
[12:03] <DgrMouse> ikonia: it fails on /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[12:03] <Phylo> where can I find the dhclient.conf file?
[12:03] <ikonia> DgrMouse: you are doing "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart" arn't you
[12:03] <DgrMouse> ikonia: I have fixed the virtual host error
[12:03] <xtreon_> jrib, yes they are (reload).. I just opend the standard nautilus and the files is there? but when I use sudo nautilus a different looking nautilus opens and the files are not in trash:
[12:03] <Paule> hey all
[12:03] <DgrMouse> ikonia: i'm in sudo su
[12:04] <ikonia> DgrMouse: so do "apache2ctl configtest
[12:04] <ikonia> "
[12:04] <Paule> im a bit of a linux noob, ive just started using Ubuntu and i can't for the life of me get my audigy to work, any ideas?
[12:04] <xtreon_> jrib, lol, found them! hold a sec
[12:04] <Fluxor> hello?
[12:05] <DgrMouse> ikonia: I get the error Servername takes one argument, the hostname and port of the server
[12:05] <jrib> Fluxor: welcome
[12:05] <Fluxor> Wow, now that I got IRC working :)
[12:05] <ikonia> DgrMouse: there you go, the Servername directive is not set right
[12:05] <Ajits> ikonia: I asked a question regarding GPRS. I expect a answer from you.
[12:05] <Paule> hey all
[12:05] <Paule> anyone at all know how to get an audigy working?
[12:05] <ikonia> Ajits: pardon ? Why do you expect an answer from me ?
[12:05] <DgrMouse> ikonia: should it be 127.0.0.1 or my external ip?
[12:06] <Ajits> since I got two answers from you.
[12:06] <ikonia> DgrMouse: depends on where you want it to listen
[12:06] <yellow_chicken> i just upgrade from 512mb to 1.5GB on my laptop.  i am afraid it will over heat.
[12:06] <ikonia> Ajits: I either didn't see your question or didn't know the answer
[12:06] <DgrMouse> ikonia: its forwarded from a router to an internal ip
[12:06] <Fluxor> dw, it wont over heat
[12:06] <ikonia> yellow_chicken: thats nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:06] <Fluxor> I have 2Gb on my pc
[12:06] <Fluxor> (PC regards to Laptop)
[12:06] <ikonia> DgrMouse: so you want to use the hosts internal (not 127) ip address
[12:07] <Ajits> ikonia: Is it possible to access internet from my PC through GPRS enabled handset (i am new to linux installed ubuntu at my pc and mobile is Nokia 6630)
[12:07] <DgrMouse> ikonia: i'll give that a go.. thanks..
[12:07] <ikonia> Ajits: I believe it is possible
[12:07] <Ajits> thanks.
[12:07] <DgrMouse> ikonia: can i have multiple virtual hosts with the same ip in them?
[12:08] <ikonia> DgrMouse: yes
[12:09] <Fluxor> ikonia: In regards to installing stuff on ur ubuntu pc
[12:09] <jrib> Phylo: find /etc -name dhclient.conf
[12:09] <Fluxor> I have just followed a tutorial that didnt work, is there n e way to roll back the damage?
[12:09] <ikonia> Fluxor: overheating a laptop's memory due to a hardware upgrade is nothing to do with ubuntu
[12:09] <Phylo> wow.... thank you jrib!
[12:10] <Ajits> cdc-acm driver is already installed or I will have to install this. (I need this for GPRS)
[12:10] <jrib> sp4rKy: what do you mean by "not in the ~"?
[12:10] <ikonia> Ajits: no idea, not tried it myself
[12:11] <Ajits> how can i check which driver is installed in my ubuntu.
[12:11] <Paule> does anyone know how to get my audigy working with ubuntu please?
[12:11] <ikonia> Ajits: lsmod
[12:12] <Fluxor> Back again
[12:12] <DgrMouse> ikonia: that has dropped all my websites :(
[12:12] <ikonia> DgrMouse: bummer
[12:13] <Phylo> ikonia:  I'm looking in my dhclient.conf file.  It has a line "request subnet-mask, ..., domain-name, domain-name-servers, host-name, ...;"
[12:13] <Fluxor> is there anyway to access IRC thro the terminal?
[12:13] <Phylo> but _most_ everything is commented out
[12:13] <ikonia> Fluxor: irssis or bitchx
[12:13] <DgrMouse> ikonia: i have the server name as www.website.com and the alias as website.com would this work?
[12:13] <ikonia> Phylo: uncomment what you want
[12:13] <Phylo> I take that back, everything else is commented out
[12:13] <ikonia> DgrMouse: do you have dns setup to point to the correct ip address for website.com
[12:13] <xtreon_> jrib, lol, finaly found it! it was located in a hidden .Trash folder located on a remote fileserver :) I hade to use VNC to acces the fileserver and from there remove it :D
[12:13] <Phylo> ikonia:  what do I need?
[12:13] <Paule> im trying to enable my ATI driver, but its restricted
[12:13] <Paule> what do i do
[12:13] <xtreon_> jrib, thanks a lot for helping!
[12:13] <ikonia> Phylo: I don't know - what do you want
[12:14] <jrib> xtreon_: great, glad you found it
[12:14] <Phylo> for my dns servers to be correct
[12:14] <DgrMouse> ikonia: yup.. it was working until i tried to install squirrelmail :(
[12:14] <Phylo> "#require subnet-mask, domain-name-servers" looks promising
[12:14] <ikonia> DgrMouse: did you use apt-get to install squirell mail
[12:14] <Fluxor> ikonia: (You must get real stressed with everyone asking questions and such) but how do u access IRC thro the ubuntu terminal?
[12:14] <ikonia> Phylo: sounds good
[12:14] <cbx33> anyone got any ideas how I could screencast a vnc session
[12:14] <ikonia> Fluxor: I've just told you irssis or bitchx
[12:14] <DgrMouse> ikonia: yup
[12:14] <Danzor> I'm having trouble logging onto Ubuntu... My password contains the character  but I cannot print that character to the screen.
[12:14] <Fluxor> thanks
[12:14] <cbx33> I want to do some programming lessons for people
[12:15] <Fluxor> ikonia: thanks
[12:15] <Danzor> It for some reason, is not using the GB keyboard payout
[12:15] <Phylo> Fluxor:  at least that means there's reason he's here!
[12:15] <Danzor> layout*
[12:15] <Phylo> better than my reason
[12:15] <ikonia> DgrMouse: thats because squirrell mail package doesn't use virtual hosts so will change your config
[12:15] <cbx33> the only way I can really think of doing it, is to screencast a vnc session
[12:15] <Phylo> kinda
[12:15] <cbx33> anyone got any better ideas?
[12:15] <DgrMouse> ikonia: i'll take it off and try again
[12:16] <Danzor> I'd like to just re-install Ubuntu and start fresh. Is it alright to just load up the CD again and install over the partition I created it on?
[12:16] <ikonia> yup
[12:16] <Danzor> Or isn't it that simple.
[12:16] <jrib> Danzor: that's fine
[12:16] <SlimeyPete> it's that simple.
[12:16] <Danzor> Ok thanks.
[12:16] <Phylo> How can I reboot all my network stuff without rebooting my computer?
[12:17] <Danzor> Then I can work on getting my X1400 card to work with xserver easily :|
[12:17] <ikonia> sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[12:17] <Danzor> Thanks again guys!
[12:18] <Phylo> I dunno how relevent this is, but it said command not recognized, I used "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" and it did work
[12:18] <javier> #spanish
[12:19] <ikonia> Phylo: well done
[12:19] <DgrMouse> Phylo: network.. not networking
[12:19] <javier>  alguien como se pasa al canal espaol?
[12:19] <javier> sabe
[12:19] <oojah>  /wc
[12:19] <Phylo> I looked in that folder and it didn't have a file anything called network, but it did have networking I figured I should try, hope my comp doesn't blow up :)
[12:19] <sascham83> javier: try #ubuntu-es
[12:20] <javier> gracias
[12:20] <DgrMouse> what's thr ecommand to refresh th list of sites-enables in apache from sites-available?
[12:20] <sascham83> javier: prego
[12:20] <DgrMouse> Phylo:  hehe thats what i do :)
[12:20] <javier> #ubuntu-es
[12:20] <sascham83> si
[12:20] <sascham83> you must type "/j #ubuntu-es"
[12:21] <Phylo> lol
[12:21] <javier> ein
[12:21] <javier> really
[12:21] <sascham83> si
[12:22] <pplastic> ikonia: i screwed smth up and now ubuntu won't even start
[12:22] <ikonia> pplastic: oh dear
[12:23] <pplastic> ikonia: no screens found it says
[12:23] <ikonia> oh dear
[12:23] <pplastic> ikonia: says i have to restart GDM when it is configured corretly..
[12:23] <Phylo> ikonia:  after reset, it didn't change anything.  I removed domain-name-servers from the request in dhclient.conf since it isn't giving me anything usable anyway
[12:24] <pplastic> and i have no idea what that is
[12:25] <Phylo> but I don't know what dns servers to add
[12:25] <Mescalito> .tin.it
[12:26] <pplastic> ikonia: i can only log on as a root in safe mode or as myself on terminal mode
[12:27] <ikonia> pplastic: you should be able to login as root at all
[12:27] <ikonia> pplastic: you need to reconfigure your x-server
[12:27] <ikonia> pplastic: your xserver is missing a screens definition that is usable
[12:27] <ikonia> !nvidia >pplastic
[12:27] <pplastic> ikonia: how to do that in terminal mode
[12:27] <Phylo> interstingly, when I wasn't using my wireless, the dns list was empty, but I could surf the net
[12:28] <ikonia> pplastic: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:28] <pplastic> ikonia: and what happens there?
[12:28] <ikonia> pplastic: try it and follow the on screen prompts
[12:29] <Phylo> Is there a hotkey to switch between workspaces?
[12:30] <sercik> someone can help with cpu frequency scaling?
[12:30] <sercik> i have an athlon 64
[12:31] <Kassah> how would I replace a string in files found by grep -r "String" * ?
[12:31] <ikonia> Kassah: grep doesn't do string replacment
[12:31] <Kassah> indeed... what does?
[12:31] <ikonia> sed
[12:32] <Draco_> Hello everyone, can someone suggest a good torrent package for me, Bittorrent doesnt seem to have a gui I can find, and freeloader loses all the torrents in progress when you close the application.
[12:32] <sercik> ktorrent
[12:32] <sercik> or mldonkey with sancho gui
[12:32] <Kassah> ikonia: looking at the man file... I don't see a way to get it to recursively do through directories
[12:32] <Ayabara> I run ati dual head (individual monitors). is there something I can do to make a workspace switch happen on both desktops?
[12:32] <ikonia> you use grep to search and sed to replace
[12:32] <Bombjack> Kassah: use find
[12:33] <paradon> I'm looking for a lightweight HTTP server that runs from inetd and supports php (and, ideally, reverse-proxying).  Anyone have any suggestions?
[12:33] <Draco_> thanks sercik
[12:33] <ikonia> paradon: light http or tux potentially
[12:33] <sercik> someone can help me with frquency and voltahe scaling?
[12:34] <Kassah> I guess... I just don
[12:34] <Kassah> I just don't how to combine these properly
[12:34] <Bombjack> Kassah: what exactly do you want to do?
[12:35] <Kassah> %s/\/usr\/local\/psa\/home\/vhosts/\/var\/www\/vhosts/g
[12:35] <Kassah> that recursively across a huge directory
[12:35] <Kassah> and subdirectories
[12:35] <jrib> kassah, you can use s#foo#bar# to keep your sanity
[12:35] <Kassah> I can use that in vim to do one file... but I need to do it on a thousand or so
[12:36] <Kassah> jrib: neat! that's useful
[12:36] <Bombjack> find .  -exec sed -s#foo#bar# {} \;
[12:36] <CapriCorn^80> i need airsnort software on ubuntu
[12:36] <CapriCorn^80> its not working using apt-get
[12:36] <CapriCorn^80> wat should i do ?
[12:36] <Kassah> find .  -exec sed -s#/usr/local/psa/home/vhosts#/var/www/vhosts# {} \;
[12:36] <Kassah> like that?
[12:37] <Bombjack> not -s# but only s#
[12:37] <Bombjack> i thing
[12:37] <jrib> kassah, not -s, just write the sed command as you normally would, but denote the filename with '{}' and add \; to the end
[12:37] <Bombjack> -g+k
[12:37] <hounited1> is it possible to have a desktop like windows?
[12:37] <jrib> hounited1, what do you mean...
[12:37] <hounited1> as in..have a start menu
[12:38] <Zaki> hi
[12:38] <hounited1> unlike the gnome desktop
[12:38] <hounited1> i heard about the KDE
[12:38] <hounited1> but what is it all about?
[12:38] <sercik> someone can help me with cpu fid vid change?
[12:38] <jrib> hounited instead of the 3 seperate menus?  Just right click on the panel -> add to panel  and add the "main menu"
[12:38] <jrib> !kde > hounited1 (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:38] <Kassah> hmm
[12:38] <Kassah> that was bad
[12:38] <Kassah> I think I just spit a bunch of image files to console
[12:39] <Bombjack> find . -name .txt ?
[12:39] <Kassah> or .php
[12:39] <Bombjack> or that
[12:40] <hounited1> thanks jrib..that solves my prom
[12:40] <Bombjack> find . -name *.php even
[12:40] <hounited1> all i have to do now is wait till ubuntu updates...
[12:40] <jrib> kassah, bombjack: '*.php' to stop the shell from expanding it
[12:41] <Bombjack> jrib: so no quotes..
[12:41] <Kassah> oh
[12:41] <jrib> bombjack: hmm?  if you don't put the quotes and have a file called foo.php in your current directory, the shell will expand it
[12:42] <Phylo> My wireless connection is working, but VEERY, VEERY, slowly
[12:42] <Kassah> I think the problem is sed is outputing the replacement... not putting it to file
[12:42] <jrib> kassah, you need to use  sed -i
[12:42] <kadaz> question
[12:42] <CapriCorn^80> i need amsn software on ubuntu
[12:42] <kadaz> how can I install wallpapoz to ubuntu
[12:42] <CapriCorn^80> its not working using apt-get
[12:43] <jrib> kadaz, visit the wallpapoz site, download the tar.gz, read the README
[12:43] <davf> anyone know how to change the crontab timeout?
[12:43] <Phylo> it can't be my router, or my wireless card because I've used the internet before on XP on the machine
[12:43] <Phylo> at regular speeds
[12:43] <Phylo> any ideas why it might be so slow?
[12:43] <DgrMouse> can someone please pastebin an apache default website host from /etc/apache2/sites-available please?
[12:43] <Defient> phylo
[12:43] <Kassah> the fun part will be to see if this corupts every image file it comes accross
[12:43] <Defient> phylo you might need a new router
[12:44] <jrib> kassah, well only if they end in ".php" now right?
[12:44] <Kassah> I ditched that
[12:44] <CapriCorn^80> i need amsn software on ubuntu n its install it using apt-get
[12:44] <jrib> Kassah: why?
[12:44] <Kassah> for the reason that I know some of the culprits are not phps
[12:44] <kadaz> any of the files it requires is the same ext  BZ2  how can I install bz2's
[12:44] <amigappc> hi
[12:45] <amigappc> im a noob ... and need some advice ^
[12:45] <jrib> !ask | amigappc
[12:45] <ubotu> amigappc: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:45] <kadaz> dont worry, Iam the aveg noob
[12:45] <jrib> kadaz: you mean the dependencies?
[12:45] <Kassah> hrrm
[12:45] <amigappc> i own a laptop with a intel graphiks-card and i cant change the resolution ...
[12:45] <jrib> !fixres > amigappc (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:46] <Defient> modify the conf file
[12:46] <|_ocke> kadaz, "tar xvf (bztarname)"
[12:46] <amigappc> sry i can change the ress but not to the right ...
[12:46] <amigappc> i also cant install the intel drivers
[12:46] <amigappc> because i dont have the knowledge to do so
[12:47] <Phylo> Defient:  you say I may need a new router.  Can that still be the case even though it is the same router I am using now, which is running normally?
[12:47] <jrib> kadaz: you don't want to install the dependencies using a .bz2.  All of the dependencies for wallpapoz are packaged in ubuntu's repos.  Search with synaptic or aptitude and install them that way
[12:47] <kadaz> I tried that, and I cant find the a match
[12:47] <Defient> Phylo then its not the router.
[12:47] <jrib> kadaz: which one?
[12:48] <Kassah> okay... neat
[12:48] <immanouel> it took more than an hour to loading kernel now its stuk at 100% do nothin...
[12:48] <Kassah> thanks... got what I wanted done
[12:48] <Phylo> Defient:  any other ideas?
[12:49] <Kassah> however it diddn't solve my underlying problem... =) but that's okay... I can figure out that on my own
[12:49] <CapriCorn^80> i need amsn software on ubuntu n its install it using apt-get
[12:49] <CapriCorn^80> wat should i do ?
[12:49] <Defient> Phylo So just one computer aint working fast?
[12:49] <jrib> CapriCorn^80: install the "amsn" package using synaptic or aptitude?
[12:50] <kadaz> which... theres alot of different python apps
[12:50] <jrib> davf: what do you mean?  what timeout?
[12:50] <immanouel> ?
[12:50] <Kassah> oh duh
[12:50] <kadaz> I got glade2 installed
[12:50] <jrib> kadaz: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[12:50] <CapriCorn^80> wat is difference between apt-get n aptitude ?
[12:50] <Kassah> the stupid path is stored in the database... not a file
[12:50] <Phylo> Defient:  only one computer, and only on Ubuntu, and only on wireless
[12:50] <amigappc> oh i also have a wireless driver problem ^
[12:51] <Phylo> Anyone know anywhere I can get a load of great wallpapers?
[12:52] <amigappc|stupid|> so ... if there is a chance that a pro got 5 good minutes to help a stupid noob ?
[12:52] <Phylo> are .bmp, .jpg, and/or .gif proprietary formats?
[12:52] <RedMoon> I can't install darkliough theme on my Ubuntu Feisty.... even though gtk2-engines installed...
[12:52] <RedMoon>  http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2/1285?rating=5
[12:54] <roadkill> hey any one know where i might find a irc channel to talk to some peeps in sweden?
[12:54] <thanos> Do anybody knows how to make amsn 0.97b to run in my ubuntu 7.04?? its ask me for tls
[12:54] <roadkill> like a backpackers/travelers channel
[12:54] <DgrMouse> does anyone know the script command to load the default page in an apache server file?
[12:55] <jrib> you didn't get "python-imaging" in the output?
[12:55] <luiX_> thanos, i guess sudo aptitude install tcltls ;)
[12:55] <amigappc|stupid|> ok i got a problem with my intel graphikscard ... does anybody can help me little stupid noob ?
[12:55] <amigappc|stupid|> 915 gave me a failure code ..
[12:55] <sercik> i need help woth cpufreqd
[12:56] <DgrMouse> does anyone know the script command to load the default page in an apache server file?
[12:56] <leagris> roadkill, here is e complete list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:57] <Quall> Hey all
[12:57] <sdf_> amigappc|stupid| : i wonder what do you mean with you nick name ?
[12:57] <r00tintheb0x> DAMN I love Linux.
[12:57] <r00tintheb0x> hi quaal hows it going
[12:57] <amigappc|stupid|> im stupid right now
[12:57] <Quall> I love Vista...
[12:57] <Quall> It is good
[12:57] <amigappc|stupid|> i have no knowledge ^
[12:57] <r00tintheb0x> I love Linux Mint.
[12:57] <r00tintheb0x> w00t
[12:58] <Quall> Vista pwns linux dude
[12:58] <amigappc|stupid|> and i need some advice ...
[12:58] <r00tintheb0x> cool Quall, to each their own.
[12:58] <jrib> !offtopic
[12:58] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:58] <sdf_> hehe
[12:58] <amigappc|stupid|> test
[12:58] <Quall> Na uh
[12:58] <Quall> I will take on all of you
[12:58] <Quall> That Vista pwns
[12:58] <jrib> Quall: keep this channel ubuntu support related.
[12:58] <leagris> r00tintheb0x, don't you prefer loving your girlfriend or boyfriend? :)
[12:58] <r00tintheb0x> Yeah it does Quall, like George W. Bush PWNS Al Qaeda...
[12:58] <leagris> roadkill, here is e complete list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[12:58] <r00tintheb0x> leagris, of course... my girlfriend is a close 2nd to Linux :)
[12:59] <Quall> George W Bush did pwn Al Qaeda though didnt he? He really fucked them up
[12:59] <PriceChild> !ohmy | Quall
[12:59] <ubotu> Quall: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:59] <r00tintheb0x> Quall, that why we're still in this war?
[12:59] <r00tintheb0x> =)
[12:59] <jrib> r00tintheb0x: stop please...
[12:59] <amigappc|stupid|> @quall did you come from the us ? so pls, go to school and learn something
[12:59] <r00tintheb0x> Does anyone need help with UBUNTU which is on topic?
[12:59] <r00tintheb0x> ok jrib
[12:59] <livingdaylight> Hello Guys!
[12:59] <Phylo> Quall:  ##Windows
[12:59] <r00tintheb0x> hi livingdaylight
[01:00] <livingdaylight> lol @ r00tintheb0x
[01:00] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[01:00] <r00tintheb0x> need help livingdaylight ?
[01:00] <livingdaylight> I have a huge problem! yes, r00tintheb0x
[01:00] <Chad> is there a help channel?
[01:00] <r00tintheb0x> whats up livingdaylight, hit me with it.
[01:00] <Phylo> how can I switch between workspaces using the keyboard?  (hotkey kinda thing)
[01:00] <CheshireViking> Chad, you're in the support channel
[01:00] <Chad> cool
[01:01] <r00tintheb0x> Phylo, you can use the scroll wheel on your mouse.
[01:01] <jrib> Phylo: ctrl-alt arrows, but you can change it in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[01:01] <r00tintheb0x> not sure about how to go about it using the keyboard.
[01:01] <PriceChild> Phylo, ctrl+alt+keyboard direction
[01:01] <r00tintheb0x> aah, there you go.
[01:01] <livingdaylight> r00tintheb0x, when i play Enigma and now i see even after playing Go on KGS which is on or via a simple applet my music does not work afterwards
[01:01] <leagris> Life unavoidable question: Is Linux male or female? Checked my Tux fluffy deep at the bottom and couldn't tell ;D
[01:01] <Phylo> excellent, excellent, much-obliged
[01:01] <Chad> well, I can get ubuntu to boot on my dell laptop, and on my dell pc, just not on my homebuilt pc with the 19 inch widescreen monitor....
[01:01] <CapriCorn^80> wat is difference between apt-get n aptitude ?
[01:01] <livingdaylight> r00tintheb0x, Enigma is a game with a marble if you don't know
[01:02] <jrib> CapriCorn^80: aptitude installs recommended packages by default and keeps better track of dependencies
[01:02] <leagris> CapriCorn^80, it does not spell the same :o)
[01:02] <Chad> I made a pendrive with ubuntu on it, and all, and also tried the cd, but it won't boot at all on this pc...
[01:03] <Chad> I think it's tripping up on the motherboard myself
[01:03] <Chad> cause I see some errors on the via chipset
[01:03] <Chad> before it halts
[01:03] <Phylo> What is the best (don't kill each other fighting now) C++ IDE?
[01:03] <Chad> some io errors or something
[01:03] <livingdaylight> r00tintheb0x, ? :s
[01:04] <infornography> anybody know how to add extra languages to GDM. I installed all the necessary language packages I think, but its not showing up on the gdm menu
[01:04] <leagris> Chad, some have solved that issue wit bios Upgrade. Google for your bios version and USB disk boot support.
[01:05] <jrib> infornography: system > administration > language support  should take care of it
[01:06] <infornography> brilliant, thanks a lot
[01:06] <Chad> I can boot from usb, it just dies after I select [run from disc or install] 
[01:06] <orbin> Phylo: anjuta gets mentioned a bit
[01:06] <Chad> it loads up the gz and then I see console errors
[01:06] <Chad> and kernal panic
[01:07] <Chad> btw, this is ubuntu 6.10 desktop I'm trying this with
[01:07] <livingdaylight> Q: when i play Enigma and now i see even after playing Go on KGS which is on or via a simple applet my music does not work afterward
[01:10] <ubuntu___> hi, I've got a laptop, Toshiba and Im trying to install ubuntu but I don't know how can I boot from cd
[01:10] <livingdaylight> I would really appreciate some help with my sound issues
[01:11] <fb> hi
[01:11] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu___: there should be a setting in your BIOS
[01:11] <CapriCorn^80> ubuntu__: go to ur bios n change ur boot seqeunce
[01:11] <CapriCorn^80> first must be cdrom
[01:11] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: with 'del' command?
[01:11] <CapriCorn^80> then it will boot from cdrom
[01:11] <Phylo> how do you paste into a terminal?
[01:11] <fb> i'm looking for a tutorial on how to change the kernel config file (running ubuntu edgy eft).
[01:12] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: yea, but I don't know how can I get in bios
[01:12] <fb> please help
[01:12] <CapriCorn^80> f2 , f10 , f8
[01:12] <CapriCorn^80> try these
[01:12] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu___: usually you rpess del, or f2 or something.
[01:12] <jrib> Phylo: ctrl-shift-v or just hilight what you want to copy and then middle click with your mouse
[01:12] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: ok, hold on please
[01:12] <Phylo> orbin:  gotcha (anjuta) thanks
[01:13] <CapriCorn^80> ok
[01:14] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: ok, i'm in
[01:14] <Phylo> thx jrib
[01:14] <CapriCorn^80> goood
[01:14] <CapriCorn^80> check boot sequence option
[01:15] <Draco_> anyone familiar with ktorrent would like to help me out for a sec ?
[01:15] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: oups, how can I select? with enter doesnt work
[01:15] <livingdaylight> Can anyone help me with Sound issue on Ubuntu?
[01:15] <livingdaylight> when i play Enigma and now i see even after playing Go on KGS which is on or via a simple applet my music does not work afterward
[01:15] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: i have a 'plus' in front off HDD
[01:15] <CapriCorn^80> there should be some instructions
[01:16] <livingdaylight> then i have to restart Ubuntu up all over again just to be able to have sound again
[01:16] <CapriCorn^80> use + , _ , pageup pagedown
[01:16] <CapriCorn^80> they can help to select
[01:16] <sipior> livingdaylight: you running a sound dameon (esd, arts, &cet?)
[01:16] <plagerism> Just trying to get my head around a couple of suspend things in Feisty.  I used to have suspend working on a D600(ati radeon oss supported) and everything was peachy.  I then took that drive out and put it in a D800(nvidia graphics using nvidia driver not nv) and hibernate no longer works.  Now reading through documentation it's telling me that my swap space has to be greater than my ram, however upon further inspection I rea
[01:16] <plagerism> lized that Feisty did not create any swap space.  Could this be the problem?  I doubt it as it hibernated on the D600.  Also found another post on launchpad that said something about a POST_VIDEO option.  One more thing  There is a message of not having enough pages(AMOUNT OF RAM HAS ALSO CHANGED)  could it be a value that was setup which I am unfamiliar with?
[01:16] <livingdaylight> sipior, i assue so
[01:16] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: ok, let me see
[01:16] <livingdaylight> *assume
[01:17] <livingdaylight> sipior, any way to diagnose this?
[01:17] <leagris> livingdaylight, may be it take exclusive DSP/PCM device use. fuser -k /dev/dsp* and fuser -k /dev/snd/pcm* should kill the offending process and releasing sound devices.
[01:17] <sipior> livingdaylight: yes, "ps aux  | grep esd", does it return anything? (other than the grep, of course)
[01:18] <livingdaylight> sipior, yes
[01:18] <leagris> livingdaylight, replacing fuser -k with fuser -v will dispay process name instead of killing it
[01:18] <superkirbyartist> !windows
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[01:19] <livingdaylight> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23575/
[01:20] <sipior> livingdaylight: ah yeah, you've got two esd daemons running
[01:20] <livingdaylight> leagris, thx i'm just gonna follow the process with sipior through before approaching your method
[01:20] <ubuntu___> CapriCorn^80: I don't know... I just moved CD on the first position then its HDD
[01:20] <sipior> livingdaylight: ah no, i'm mistaken
[01:20] <sipior> livingdaylight: the shell that started the daemon never terminated...
[01:21] <sipior> livingdaylight: i think leagris' method is not a bad way to approach this, but try killing pid 5500 first
[01:21] <livingdaylight> sipior, how?
[01:21] <sipior> livingdaylight: sudo kill 5500
[01:21] <sahil> is there any way of clearing the RAM that linux uses?
[01:22] <sipior> sahil: no, aside from rebooting
[01:22] <livingdaylight> sipior, and then?
[01:22] <ubuntu-help-need> hi guys anyone here have a chance to help me pls... urgently
[01:22] <sipior> sahil: but it's not an issue, you don't actually want to clean it :)
[01:22] <sipior> livingdaylight: did it work? if not, try sudo kill -9 5500
[01:22] <sahil> sipior suppose i use linux and then switch to windows, that that mean some stuff is already in my ram?
[01:22] <sipior> sahil: no, it
[01:22] <sipior> sahil: it's flushed at reboot
[01:23] <sahil> sipior, thanks :)
[01:23] <livingdaylight> sipior, well i did sudo kill 5500 and the prompt came back. how do you mean did it work?
[01:23] <leagris> sahil, terminating process that allocated the memory. Aside from that. You may see huge amout dedicated to caching but that is the way Linux works. Cache dedicated memory is freed upon allocation request from loaded processes.
[01:23] <sipior> livingdaylight: does "ps aux" show it still?
[01:24] <sahil> leagris, im a noob, flush at reboot is a good explanation for me
[01:24] <Phylo> what's the terminal command to check the available memory of a hard drive?  (my main drive in this case, that is running Ubuntu)
[01:24] <livingdaylight> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23576/
[01:24] <SlimeyPete> Phylo: df -h
[01:24] <leagris> sahil, flush is not needed and unavailable. Flush occures automaticaly when needed.
[01:24] <Faemir> Can someone recommend a good audio converter, i will be converting FLAC and MP3 to OGG. I know with MP3 I will lose sound quality, but oh well.
[01:25] <Draco_> Is the /tmp folder emtied when Ubuntu is restarted ?
[01:25] <sipior> livingdaylight: yeah, it's gone. sound work?
[01:25] <livingdaylight> sipior, let me check
[01:25] <leagris> Faemir, ffmpeg, mencoder does it right and simple
[01:26] <Faemir> thanks
[01:26] <Phylo> SlimeyPete:  thank you very much
[01:26] <SlimeyPete> Phylo: no problem :)
[01:26] <Ajits> which kernel version we are using currently in unbutu?
[01:26] <sipior> Ajits: uname -a
[01:27] <DjViper> when connecting to a wireless network, how come I have to type in a keyring pw twice to access it?
[01:27] <boghog> hjio
[01:27] <boghog> hi*
[01:27] <livingdaylight> sipior, oops...rhythmbox crashed. next i went straight into music folder and selected something. Totem comes up by default and i got an error dialog pop up saying ; could not establish connextion to sond server
[01:27] <leagris> Ajits, 2.6.20-16. Use uname -a to check the one you are runing.
[01:27] <DjViper> and, secondly how come network manager cant connect to the network I specify each time I boot up? instead of just trying to connect to whatever is available
[01:27] <gangerli> hi all
[01:27] <DjViper> ubuntu 6.10
[01:28] <gangerli> what software do you recommend for video editing and applying hard subs?
[01:28] <leagris> !ldap
[01:28] <ubotu> LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information and installation instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
[01:28] <sipior> livingdaylight: restart it manually if you need to, or go through System->Preferences->Sound
[01:29] <mehln> I'm trying to $this->Model->find($data,$this->primaryKey,null,0)
[01:29] <livingdaylight> sipior, do you mean restart my pc box? and what do you suggest i do in system>Preference>Sound?
[01:30] <mehln> it's still getting it recursively, even though I told it not to explicitly
[01:30] <Phylo> ...when I run beryl it takes me to a black screen where I can type for about 10 seconds
[01:30] <Chad> does ubuntu play nicely with a radeon mobility?
[01:30] <Phylo> then I have to log back into Ubuntu, but it definitely didn't restart
[01:30] <sipior> livingdaylight: no, i mean restart esd manually, so you have a sound server to connect to
[01:30] <cbx33> Phylo sounds like X is dying
[01:30] <atomic_ue> What's the difference between Free hdd space and Available hdd space?
[01:31] <sipior> atomic_ue: some filesystems provide a mechanism to reserve disk blocks for the superuser
[01:31] <Phylo> it did close all my programs though
[01:31] <livingdaylight> sipior, how? i clicked on something in System>Preference>Sound and it crashed
[01:31] <sipior> livingdaylight: odd. try "esd"
[01:31] <Phylo> cbx33:  what can I do about that?
[01:31] <livingdaylight> sipior, in shell?
[01:31] <sipior> livingdaylight: where else?
[01:32] <gilang> do we need to do something on the config menu before we compile the 2.6.20 kernel?
[01:32] <Phylo> cbx33:  I just installed Ubuntu Edgy Eft 6.10
[01:32] <livingdaylight> conrad@Dune:~$ esd
[01:32] <livingdaylight> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:864:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[01:32] <atomic_ue> sipior: Ah I've read about that once briefly....I've been using Linux for years and I never knew there was a diff between Free and Available space :P
[01:32] <livingdaylight> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23577/
[01:33] <sipior> atomic_ue: yeah, it's a bit subtle, not really used much anymore
[01:33] <zeroflag> eh, strange.
[01:33] <zeroflag> I got my gdm finally running, can connect via VNC, but the screen is blank...
[01:33] <zeroflag> black even.
[01:33] <tondar> hey all
[01:33] <atomic_ue> sipior: A difference of 3GB between Free and Available on a /home partition seems a bit much tho
[01:34] <sipior> livingdaylight: hmm...you might try "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"
[01:34] <zeroflag> how would is restart gdm and X?
[01:34] <tondar> how would I have a dynamic menu for ubuntu desktop
[01:34] <tondar> ?
[01:34] <Danzor> Ok, I reinstalled Ubuntu to start fresh, and I've been trying to sort out xserver because my graphics card is an ATI X1400, which the GUI doesn't like
[01:34] <Danzor> So I've been stuck in the terminal
[01:34] <Danzor> I've come across this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:34] <Danzor> And I've executed the 2 commands:
[01:34] <Danzor> sudo apt-get update
[01:34] <Danzor> and
[01:34] <sipior> atomic_ue: you can change that with tune2fs; the default reserve is 5%, so you probably have a 150GB home filesystem?
[01:34] <Danzor> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic restricted-manager
[01:35] <sipior> atomic_ue: 60GB, rather :)
[01:35] <__mikem> zeroflag hit ctrl alt backspace
[01:35] <livingdaylight> sipior, it sais shutting down Also and settin up Also i think
[01:35] <Danzor> And the next step on there is to: "Open the restricted drivers manager included in 7.04 "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver". This will hopefully enable fglrx in a painless way. If not, follow the instructions for Edgy."
[01:35] <zeroflag> __mikem: where?
[01:35] <sipior> livingdaylight: now see if esd is back
[01:35] <__mikem> zeroflag on your keyboard
[01:35] <Danzor> How do I do the "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" bit?
[01:35] <zeroflag> __mikem: in what interface. -_-
[01:35] <Danzor> I'm assuming that it's meant for a GUI environment, not the terminal
[01:35] <__mikem> any x session
[01:35] <livingdaylight> sipior, i get the same line
[01:36] <zeroflag> __mikem: I don't have the physical machine anywhere near me. I only have VNC or SSH.
[01:36] <tondar> how would I have a dynamic menu for ubuntu desktop
[01:36] <sipior> livingdaylight: which line?
[01:36] <__mikem> if you are in vnc it shouldn't matter
[01:36] <atomic_ue> sipior: yeah about that. I'll have a look at tune2fs and see if I can lower it for a few couple of partitions
[01:36] <atomic_ue> sipior: thanks ;)
[01:36] <livingdaylight> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23577/
[01:36] <zeroflag> __mikem: that just killed VNC.
[01:37] <__mikem> zeroflag, then restart vnc
[01:37] <zeroflag> how can I trigger a gnome login without direct access?
[01:37] <Phylo> when I type "beryl -manager"  it says "beryl: invalid option -- m"
[01:37] <sipior> livingdaylight: and it doesn't show up with ps?
[01:37] <sahil> hey i got a question about bery, how do i put a change the color of the suff outside the cube
[01:37] <zeroflag> because VNC is only active for one user - once that user is logged in.
[01:37] <livingdaylight> sipior, esd ps?
[01:37] <Vanax> Anyone able to tell me why when i run wow, the gui crashes.
[01:37] <sipior> livingdaylight: "ps aux | grep esd"
[01:37] <mehmetserif> i am trying to install ubuntu Feisty but i am locked at partitioning , i have also xp on my hard drive but there is no other partition for ubuntu but there is a space in c: like 8 gb. so i want to use that empty space. In partition window there is a selection "Guided: resize sda and use freed space" does that mean it will use that free space?
[01:37] <zeroflag> Vanax: the gnomes are taking over your pc!
[01:37] <sipior> Vanax: need a lot more info than that, i'm afraid
[01:38] <__mikem> !wubi | mehmetserif
[01:38] <ubotu> mehmetserif: wubi is an unofficial Ubuntu installer for Windows users - more info is at http://www.cutlersoftware.com/ubuntusetup/wubi/en-US/index.html
[01:38] <livingdaylight> sipior, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23578/
[01:38] <mehmetserif> _mikem, well i just want to know what does that mean?
[01:38] <Vanax> sipior: Well, i got wow installed disk 1-5 and then when i try to run it, it just freez's all the windows, the mouse moves, but nothing else.
[01:38] <sahil> !beryl
[01:38] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[01:38] <tondar> desktop menu for ubuntu
[01:38] <IdleOne> Danzor, gksu -D restricted-manager
[01:39] <Chad> mehln, isn't sda a usb disc (or thumb drive?)
[01:39] <Danzor> Ok, thanks
[01:39] <__mikem> mehmetserif, wubi will install your linux filesystem in a file that resides in your windows partition, thereby bypassing the risks associated with partitioning
[01:39] <mehmetserif> _mikem so it works on windows ?
[01:39] <sipior> livingdaylight: hmm...not sure what to tell you. difficult to diagnose at a distance
[01:40] <tondar> anyone
[01:40] <tondar> ?
[01:40] <__mikem> mehmetserif its DESIGNED for windows
[01:40] <tondar> menu for desktop ??
[01:40] <mehmetserif> _mikem, ok thanks
[01:40] <livingdaylight> sipior, how do i put it back to where i was, coz now it is worse than before
[01:40] <sipior> Vanax: how are you running it?
[01:40] <zeroflag> argh.
[01:40] <HOT> hello, i have a weird problem with a .Xauthority file that keeps reverting on a seemingly random basis to root ownership, is there anyway to track not so much who changed a file but why a file was changed?
[01:40] <leagris> sahil, Bery Setting Manager/Desktop icon/Cube desktop/Display dome deck/skky/ground colour options
[01:40] <sipior> livingdaylight: i would say reboot
[01:41] <livingdaylight> sipior, will that reset it to where i was before?
[01:41] <zeroflag> can someone tell me how I can FORCE my ubuntu to use a static IP? every time I reboot it falls back to DHCP - not what I want for my fileserver...
[01:41] <__mikem> HOT, that would mean that X is writing to the file
[01:41] <sipior> livingdaylight: i would assume so
[01:41] <livingdaylight> sipior, coz we did a kill process and now sound server cannot be accessed and things crash
[01:42] <sipior> livingdaylight: right, and it will be restarted at reboot
[01:42] <Phylo> When I run beryl, even the manager, it crashes...
[01:42] <HOT> __mikem: yea i understand that part, i have about 7 users using the system, no one else has this issue, i need to know why root is changing the file, is there some kind of filesystem changing tracker?i know who what is changing the file, but i need to know why, the process that is changing it
[01:42] <leagris> zeroflag, either permanent DHCP lease using MAC address on DHCP server / or editing /etc/network/interfaces iface eth0 inet static and adding lines with address, gateway and netmask
[01:42] <__mikem> Phylo by any chance when you say crash do you mean the screen goes white and you have to restart x to do anything
[01:43] <Vanax> sipior: i'm hitting alt + f2 and then typing the file name for the wow.exe then -opengl
[01:43] <sipior> zeroflag: i believe you want to modify /etc/network/interfaces. check out man interfaces for more data
[01:43] <zeroflag> leagris, sipior: thank you.
[01:43] <Phylo> not white, it goes black, and I can type
[01:43] <Phylo> it doesn't do anything, but I can type
[01:43] <sipior> apologies, leagris, didn't see your response
[01:43] <Phylo> then after about 10 seconds it goes to my login screen
[01:43] <__mikem> HOT do you at any point change any graphical settings?
[01:44] <__mikem> Phylo sounds like beryl is bringing down X
[01:44] <Phylo> all my programs are closed, but Ubuntu doesn't have to restart (it takes a lot less time than booting)
[01:44] <Phylo> someone else said that too, what do I do about it?
[01:44] <sipior> Vanax: not through wine or cedega?
[01:44] <Phylo> maybe I don't have something set right in X
[01:44] <HOT> __mikem: actually i think i have it, its a suid problem, thanks for your thoughts anyway
[01:44] <Vanax> sipior: yeah sorry its going through wine
[01:44] <__mikem> Phylo, I would first recomend you reinstall all of beryl's components
[01:44] <__mikem> HOT sorry I couldn't be more help
[01:44] <HOT> thanks anyway!
[01:45] <__mikem> no problem
[01:45] <Phylo> I JUST installed them, but I can do that
[01:45] <zeroflag> leagris: any way to test that without rebooting?
[01:45] <sipior> Vanax: not sure if wine even supports WoW atm. you might try cedega, though there's a nominal fee, involved
[01:45] <__mikem> Phylo, its just what I would do, you never know, the binarys could have been currupted when you downloaded them
[01:45] <Chad> just get cvs cedega...
[01:45] <sipior> not sure where that last comma came from...
[01:45] <leagris> zeroflag, ifdown eth0 / ifup eth0 will do
[01:45] <Vanax> chad: where do i get that?
[01:45] <__mikem> Chad cvs cedega is known not to work on fiesty
[01:46] <sipior> Chad: aye, and then he has to build it :) does it build cleanly nowadays?
[01:46] <zeroflag> leagris: you know any reason why I wouldn't have an eth0 but only eth1?
[01:46] <rpedro> anyone here with a soundblaster live card, the original model?
[01:46] <livingdaylight> sipior, i got sound back
[01:46] <__mikem> sipior, cvs cedega does not work on fiesty, don't try it
[01:46] <Phylo> it says it's already the newest version and that 0 upgraded, installed, and 169 not upgraded
[01:46] <DeusExMac> hey anyone around that could help me with a Live CD problem?
[01:46] <vermut> anybody want to talk with man from Russia?
[01:46] <Vanax> rofl
[01:46] <leagris> zeroflag, you could see eth0 with ifconfig. May be it was first allocated to some other device like firewire
[01:46] <sipior> __mikem: wasn't planning on it :)
[01:47] <__mikem> Phylo, I would recomend just for the sake of best practices you take care of the 169 not upgraded thing
[01:47] <livingdaylight> sipior, but i suspect that if i play a game of Enigma or Go on KGS it will kill my sound again, and i'm left where i was having to reboot my system everytime between applications
[01:47] <Phylo> how do I remove them?  well I guess I could do that outside the terminal
[01:47] <zeroflag> leagris: I don't see any eth0 with ifconfig. could it be that me setting up the image in VMware have something to do with it?
[01:47] <__mikem> Phylo sudo apt-get remove beryl*
[01:47] <Chad> vermut, this is a linux help channel, not a date line
[01:47] <Chad> lol
[01:47] <tokj> lol
[01:48] <sipior> livingdaylight: most likely. try the fuser method suggested earlier, kill the processes accesing the sound devices, and see if that sorts it out
[01:48] <zeroflag> haha
[01:48] <Phylo> what I meant was when I tried to download it, it said the newest version is already installed
[01:48] <zeroflag> lol.
[01:48] <vermut> 
[01:48] <Phylo> and didn't update anything
[01:48] <vermut> aa
[01:48] <vermut> ok
[01:48] <Chad> LOL
[01:48] <zeroflag> I just did sudo ifconfig eth1 down - from my SSH session. >_<
[01:48] <Phylo> with the *?
[01:48] <livingdaylight> sipior, can you remind me or shall i ask leagris again?
[01:48] <__mikem> Phylo alternately you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure beryl beryl-manager
[01:48] <DeusExMac> hey anyone around that could help me with a Live CD problem?
[01:49] <CheshireViking> !anyone | DeusExMac
[01:49] <ubotu> DeusExMac: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:49] <sipior> livingdaylight: yes, fuser -k /dev/dsp* or /dev/sound/*
[01:49] <Phylo> nah, I'm just trying it how you say to
[01:49] <DeusExMac> lmfao
[01:49] <DeusExMac> Nice
[01:49] <zeroflag> leagris: while we're at it, could you tell me what file to add commands I want to be run at/after startup?
[01:49] <sipior> livingdaylight: /dev/audio, rather
[01:49] <DeusExMac> i like that
[01:49] <ca> hey guys can u help me install a skype usb phone please?
[01:49] <__mikem> okay in that case sudo apt-get remove beryl* sudo apt-get install beryl*
[01:50] <Phylo> I uninstalled it, ok, installing
[01:50] <DeusExMac> Problem: put ubuntu live cd in...boot from cd rom...nice logo appears with a progress bar of sorts...all goes well then suddenly it faiils and i see a bunch of text .. and it says "Killed!"
[01:50] <DeusExMac> ?
[01:50] <__mikem> Phylo also before you try to run it, make sure you enable your restricted video drivers
[01:50] <leagris> zeroflag, /etc/rc.local
[01:51] <zeroflag> leagris: thanks.
[01:51] <leagris> zeroflag, /etc/init.d/rc.local
[01:51] <Phylo> should I remove the emerald themes?
[01:51] <Phylo> and reinstall those too?
[01:51] <__mikem> No, they should be fine
[01:51] <ca> any1?
[01:52] <Phylo> ca:  no I
[01:52] <Phylo> *not I*
[01:52] <DeusExMac> Problem: put ubuntu live cd in...boot from cd rom...nice logo appears with a progress bar of sorts...all goes well then suddenly it faiils and i see a bunch of text .. and it says "Killed!" -- ???
[01:52] <__mikem> heh
[01:52] <Phylo> (don't know how)
[01:52] <Phylo> ok, it's installed, how do I enable my restricted video drivers?
[01:53] <Chad> DeusExMac, I think what we have here is an error mac
[01:53] <DeusExMac> ?
[01:53] <__mikem> go to system > administration > restricted driver manager
[01:53] <Chad> is this on a mac mac?
[01:54] <Phylo> no such option:  restricted driver manager
[01:54] <Chad> does it tell you any errors at all?
[01:54] <DeusExMac> nope
[01:54] <__mikem> Phylo, what version of ubuntu?
[01:54] <Phylo> (nor driver manager, nor restricted drivers, etc)  the best I see is device manager
[01:54] <Phylo> 6.10 edgy eft
[01:55] <__mikem> Phylo, oh, then you are going to have to enable them on the command line
[01:55] <__mikem> What video card are you using
[01:55] <Phylo> ugh, do you know how?  yeah one sec
[01:55] <Phylo> no, ATI radeon something
[01:55] <__mikem> d***it
[01:55] <Phylo> crap
[01:55] <__mikem> I don't know how to do it with ati, but let me look
[01:55] <Phylo> but what I read about it made it sound like NVidia would give more trouble than ATI
[01:56] <Chad> so is edgy a hella old distro?
[01:56] <Phylo> it's 6.10, last thing before 7
[01:56] <Phylo> I think
[01:56] <DeusExMac> so no one knows why i would for no apparent reason recieve a Killed message and no error?
[01:56] <Chad> alrighty
[01:57] <noob> does anyone use lostirc here?
[01:57] <Chad> hrm, DeusExMac do you have any strange hardware and is this the latest version you are runnin here?
[01:57] <DeusExMac> nah its 6.10 something i think
[01:57] <__mikem> Phylo, no ATI is definitely more trouble.
[01:57] <DeusExMac> no strange hardware as far as i know
[01:57] <__mikem> phylo, apt-get install fglrx
[01:57] <Chad> so you got the same as me DeusExMac and I get about the same error on "this" pc
[01:57] <DeusExMac> :\
[01:57] <Phylo> ATI Radeon Xpress X200M card
[01:58] <Phylo> ok
[01:58] <Chad> I got 3 pc's and it's don't like this one, lets compare hardware shall we?
[01:58] <Vanax> how do i edit my xorg.confg?
[01:58] <Phylo> no sudo?
[01:58] <DeusExMac> amd athlon64
[01:58] <DeusExMac> nvidia geforce6 series (pcie)
[01:58] <__mikem> Phylo, you will need sudo
[01:58] <Chad> I got 1 gig of ram, 160 gig hard drive, athlonxp, geforce fx 5700ultra....
[01:58] <DeusExMac> 1gig ram
[01:58] <DeusExMac> 160gig hd too
[01:58] <Phylo> __mikem:  should I just assume that part from now on?
[01:59] <__mikem> Phylo yep
[01:59] <Phylo> it said it couldn't find package
[01:59] <Chad> hrm
[01:59] <__mikem> heh hold on lets make sure I spelled it right
[01:59] <Chad> I would say DeusExMac try downloading the latest version, 7.0 or whatever
[01:59] <Chad> it might work
[01:59] <DeusExMac> hm
[01:59] <Chad> I know I had ubuntu on this once
[01:59] <Chad> BTW
[01:59] <DeusExMac> its strange, i would of thought it at least give some kinda reason
[01:59] <Phylo> you did, what's that huge number though...
[02:00] <__mikem> oops my bad its sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[02:00] <Phylo> ah
[02:00] <Chad> does your motherboard officially support that 160 gig hard drive?
[02:00] <Chad> as in your bios
[02:00] <DeusExMac> yeah as far as i know it does
[02:00] <Chad> I know mine don't
[02:00] <DeusExMac> its a pretty new mobo
[02:00] <Vanax> can anybody help me w/ installing wow?
[02:00] <Chad> I have to use a damn special boot sector for it
[02:01] <zeroflag> oh my god.
[02:01] <Phylo> trying it, connecting right now
[02:01] <Chad> I have to use OnTrack on it
[02:01] <zeroflag> is there any way to get VNC to work on ubuntu?
[02:01] <__mikem> Phylo, also do yourself a favor and install the package restricted-manager
[02:01] <zeroflag> I tried vnc4server and I tried the thing integrated in ubuntu - neither works.
[02:01] <Chad> it makes it a pain in the arse to install a new os
[02:02] <DeusExMac> gonna retry again, maybe look at the text more closely :/
[02:02] <CheshireViking> DeusExMac, another option you've got would be to try the alternate install cd - it uses a text based installer rather than the graphical on on the livecd, only problem is you can't make sure it works before installing
[02:02] <Phylo> sudo apt-get install package restricted-manager   ?
[02:02] <DeusExMac> sucky
[02:02] <__mikem> sudo apt-get install restricted-manager
[02:02] <Chad> live cd's are great
[02:02] <mani_> hello
[02:02] <Chad> at least I found out it wasn't gonna work before I installed
[02:02] <Chad> on this pc
[02:02] <Phylo> I shouldn't only do that if it doesn't work?
[02:02] <PanzerMKZ> but you can't do a dist upgrade from a live cd
[02:02] <PanzerMKZ> you can from the alt cd
[02:02] <CheshireViking> DeusExMac, would be worth you making a note of the exact error so that people will know what part of the startup fails
[02:03] <Chad> why not PanzerMKZ ?
[02:03] <PanzerMKZ> the live cd is I think an image
[02:03] <DeusExMac> i couldnt recognise an error, i just sore "Killed!"
[02:03] <Phylo> I like that black-glass theme
[02:03] <__mikem> Phylo, it should add the Restricted Driver Manager to your system > administration menu
[02:03] <PanzerMKZ> that gets up on the drive
[02:03] <DeusExMac> everything prior to it was "OK"
[02:04] <Phylo> fglrx downloaded (and installed?), getting restricted manager
[02:04] <__mikem> Phylo it worked?
[02:04] <PanzerMKZ> where as the alt cd has the packages broken out or something
[02:04] <Chad> I did a dist-upgrade on breezy
[02:04] <CheshireViking> DeusExMac, try getting hold of the 7.04 install cd, it might be that different hardware or updated hardware causes a problem that the 7.04 solves
[02:04] <Phylo> couldn't find restricted manager
[02:04] <__mikem> Phylo it must only be available in fiesty
[02:04] <DeusExMac> alright
[02:05] <DeusExMac> bbiab
[02:05] <Chad> I'll get 7.04 for this machine
[02:05] <Phylo> could be, it's not xorg-restri... or something?
[02:05] <__mikem> Phylo no thats something else
[02:05] <__mikem> okay, lets see if beryl works
[02:06] <Phylo> ok, well I can't find the manager, but I installed fglrx.   Run beryl?
[02:06] <Chad> anyone looking for a geeky married american man? *picks on that russian guy that came in earlier*
[02:06] <__mikem> rn beryl-manager
[02:06] <__mikem> err run
[02:06] <HOT> anyone know the flags for mtime, im using "-mtime -1" but i need a minute rather than day
[02:06] <Phylo> well...
[02:06] <_Roman> Ever since I updated my computer to Feisty it takes about 20-30 seconds to connect to an ssh server via an ip address.  Using wireshark it was possible to see that the problem was caused by the target machine not having a reverse dns entry.  If I add an entry to /etc/hosts and connect via ip address it almost connects instantly.  Can anyone tell me how I can fix this (without setting up reverse entries for all servers).  This did not happen when the machine was
[02:07] <Phylo> it didn't work exactly, but it improved.  I didn't lose all my apps and have to log back in after the black screen
[02:07] <Phylo> it looked like it tried to put up a splash screen, but it was just background, no image
[02:07] <__mikem> Phylo, now you should have a ruby in your tray
[02:07] <Phylo> then it quit
[02:07] <Phylo> ah, yes
[02:07] <Phylo> TOP-right, heh
[02:07] <__mikem> yup
[02:07] <__mikem> right click it
[02:08] <Phylo> then?
[02:08] <__mikem> well first go to "Select Window Manager"
[02:08] <Tru7h> YAY
[02:08] <Tru7h> My harddrive isn't erased! :D
[02:08] <__mikem> and make sure beryl is selected
[02:08] <Phylo> Beryl and Metacity (Gnome)
[02:09] <Phylo> oh ok
[02:09] <Phylo> when I try to use Beryl, it does the splash screen (attempt), then reverts
[02:09] <amigappc|need|ad> hello again ... i dont know if you know ... but i need a litte advise
[02:09] <__mikem> now, to make sure it works, I just want you to open up your home folder
[02:09] <Chad> oooh amiga
[02:10] <amigappc|need|ad> yeah chad ?
[02:10] <Phylo> open, but Beryl isn't running
[02:10] <Chad> I've never actually used an amiga, they are like one of those hard to get machines :)
[02:10] <__mikem> Phylo, I assume you are using xchat?
[02:10] <thegve> Hello. I have a small problem with a slow NFS server... The mounting goes very slow, when I finally have it mounted it is running fine. Mounting takes about 1 minute.
[02:11] <Phylo> mIRC on a different computer
[02:11] <amigappc|need|ad> chad yeah but my amiga time is a little time ago ..
[02:11] <Chad> only thing I knew about em was they were awesome for graphics back in the day
[02:11] <thegve> I try to NFS boot, but the kernel times out
[02:11] <amigappc|need|ad> and music
[02:11] <Chad> yeah
[02:11] <__mikem> oh, just open your home folder on the machine
[02:11] <Tru7h> Okay
[02:11] <amigappc|need|ad> nobody knows it but he had a bedder soundchip than the comodore...
[02:11] <Tru7h> I have a problem
[02:11] <Phylo> it's open
[02:11] <amigappc|need|ad> but nobody noticed it ...
[02:11] <Tru7h> A aligntly smaller problem
[02:11] <Tru7h> but a problem nonetheless
[02:11] <Chad> I've had a sun workstation, an apple 2, a texas instruments, an original mac, but never an amiga
[02:11] <__mikem> now, drag it around and tell me if you observe a wobble effect
[02:11] <Phylo> nope
[02:11] <amigappc|need|ad> and know i killed my xp on my laptop and i need some help to get him run ^
[02:12] <amigappc|need|ad> ^^
[02:12] <Phylo> (if I go select window manager again, Beryl isn't marked)
[02:12] <__mikem> okay
[02:12] <Chad> what's goin on with your laptop?
[02:12] <Phylo> that's what I meant by reverted
[02:12] <amigappc|need|ad> my amiga got a ppc card, 64mb fast ram
[02:12] <Chad> I'm installing ubuntu to my laptop right now too
[02:12] <Chad> lol
[02:12] <amigappc|need|ad> a graphics and a soundcard  ^
[02:12] <__mikem> Phylo, okay, hit ctrl alt backspace
[02:12] <amigappc|need|ad> but ubuntu dosnt like my intel chipset
[02:12] <Chad> is it x86?
[02:12] <amigappc|need|ad> actual i got my resolution ...
[02:12] <amigappc|need|ad> its a celeron
[02:12] <Chad> or ppc?
[02:13] <Chad> ooh
[02:13] <Phylo> woah, that's definitely the same thing that happened when I ran Beryl before
[02:13] <Chad> celeron ehh?
[02:13] <Chad> hrm
[02:13] <Phylo> what does it do?
[02:13] <Chad> try the newest distro?
[02:13] <Phylo> and should I log back in?
[02:13] <__mikem> Phylo yes we are restarting X
[02:13] <amigappc|need|ad> actual i let run a "vesa" mode at 1280x800
[02:13] <Phylo> what is X?
[02:13] <__mikem> X is your gui
[02:13] <Chad> Phylo, x = the gui
[02:13] <Chad> beat me
[02:13] <Chad> lol
[02:14] <doublehp> After update (breezy), X was broken; I fixed broken link /etc/X11/X to /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg and now I am said: Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type => segfault; any idea ?
[02:14] <__mikem> ;)
[02:14] <{DB}HobbitJa> Hello guys i wonder if you can help a linux n00b?
[02:14] <tmbt> i guys .. i need a fast help .. if someone could help. The question is : From where ubuntu 6.06 get device that are listed under Place->Computer ? i would to add some hd that are not show there
[02:14] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, did you google it?
[02:14] <Phylo> I thought it was Metacity
[02:14] <__mikem> Phylo okay now what we are going to do is try launching beryl-manager again
[02:14] <Phylo> ok
[02:14] <amigappc|need|ad> yeah i did ... and i got nothing ^.
[02:14] <ZeroA4> !ask | {DB}HobbitJa
[02:14] <ubotu> {DB}HobbitJa: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:14] <{DB}HobbitJa> My question is similar, my hdd isnt showing up and i cant mount it
[02:14] <__mikem> Metacity is a window manager, but it requires x to work
[02:14] <{DB}HobbitJa> lol k
[02:14] <Phylo> um, ok
[02:15] <Chad> I would help but I know nothing about the architecture of the amiga
[02:15] <Phylo> manager running, metacity selected
[02:15] <amigappc|need|ad> i tryed the 915res. and the told me, that he cant detect the chip ...
[02:15] <Phylo> (is already selected)
[02:15] <amigappc|need|ad> @chat noooo, im on an ibm compatible laptop
[02:15] <{DB}HobbitJa> basically my question is this: Ive connected another drive to ubuntu, it is a sata-300 drive but i cannot see it
[02:15] <__mikem> yes, we are going to try to select beryl again
[02:15] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, what video card you got?
[02:15] <{DB}HobbitJa> i try to mount it using this command "mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/satadrive"
[02:15] <Phylo> it just flickered, then back to metacity
[02:15] <amigappc|need|ad> its an build-in intel chipset ... i dont know witch exaktly?!
[02:15] <Chad> I know it detects my radeon mobility
[02:16] <__mikem> This is why I hate ati cards
[02:16] <Phylo> (no wobble)
[02:16] <amigappc|need|ad> i know that must be an intel i8xx
[02:16] <__mikem> let me see if there are any othe rpackages for the ati card
[02:16] <Phylo> np
[02:16] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, what version of ubuntu are you trying?
[02:16] <Tru7h> Here's the problem: I was trying to partition my hard drive to install ubuntu, but long story short it gave me an error, said to restart, and now windows won't boot (The error BIOS gives me is "0 active partitions, F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup"). When I went back to the partitioner it showed both of my drives (even the external one I didn't do anything to) as empty unaccolated free space. I opened up both drives in nautilus and they're st
[02:16] <doublehp> {DB}HobbitJa: if it is USB, then it will be detected automatically; other wise, you have to enter manually in sysconf; other people, or Ubuntu forums/FAQs will help
[02:16] <{DB}HobbitJa> It says mount point does not exist
[02:16] <amigappc|need|ad> because its an old laptop ... i also got problems, because ubuntu doesnt knows my w-lan build-in adapter ...
[02:17] <sahil> anyone know how to change the resolution of a picture in gimp, i need to make it work with beryl skydome
[02:17] <{DB}HobbitJa> its a sata interface
[02:17] <amigappc|need|ad> chad i use the feisty fawn
[02:17] <amigappc|need|ad> 7.04
[02:17] <Chad> sahil, image>scale image
[02:17] <doublehp> {DB}HobbitJa: mkdir mntpoint
[02:17] <sahil> thanks chad, will tell you if it worked :)
[02:17] <__mikem> Phylo okay see if xserver-xorg-ati-display is installed
[02:17] <Phylo> am I using AIGLX or XGL?  (fresh install of Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft)
[02:17] <{DB}HobbitJa> thats all i type?
[02:17] <tmbt> Hobbit create the folder /mnt/satadrive before
[02:17] <{DB}HobbitJa> o i see
[02:17] <Chad> damn amigappc|need|ad you would think that would work :/
[02:17] <Phylo> how do I check without installing?
[02:17] <Phylo> or should I just install?
[02:18] <__mikem> Phylo I use XGL personally
[02:18] <__mikem> Phylo try installing it
[02:18] <{DB}HobbitJa> so mkdir /mnt/satadrive?
[02:18] <pyro540> is it possible to get directx 8.1 for ubuntu?
[02:18] <Phylo> couldn't find package
[02:18] <amigappc|need|ad> @chad -> query ?
[02:18] <doublehp> pyro540: directx is Windows only
[02:18] <pyro540> shit
[02:19] <Chad> I got the query
[02:19] <Tru7h> Here's the problem: I was trying to partition my hard drive to install ubuntu, but long story short it gave me an error, said to restart, and now windows won't boot (The error BIOS gives me is "0 active partitions, F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup"). When I went back to the partitioner it showed both of my drives (even the external one I didn't do anything to) as empty unaccolated free space. I opened up both drives in nautilus and they're st
[02:19] <pyro540> what about wine then?
[02:19] <doublehp> pyro540: not even for MacIntel, or any other OS (BSD, Sun ... )
[02:19] <Phylo> "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-ati-display"
[02:19] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[02:19] <doublehp> Tru7h: dont repeat, you are bothering us
[02:19] <Chad> check to see if your model is there and if you can find a solution
[02:19] <tmbt> hobbit better use "sudo mkdir /mnt/satadrive"
[02:19] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : is it still labeled as active? the first drive ( and dissconnect the usb drive...
[02:19] <__mikem> okay, can you pastebin your sources.list file
[02:19] <amigappc|need|ad> i dont think so but i will search ^^
[02:19] <orbin> sahil: image > scale
[02:19] <doublehp> Phylo: can you help my X probme ?
[02:19] <{DB}HobbitJa> ok cool cheers dude
[02:19] <pyro540> because the game i am running in wine said that I triggered a bug
[02:19] <Phylo> doublehp:  I doubt it
[02:19] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : first disconnect the USB drive
[02:20] <Phylo> __mikem:  I can if Ubuntu comes with an IRC client
[02:20] <Phylo> oh, wait
[02:20] <Phylo> lol, nvm
[02:20] <Phylo> one sec
[02:20] <Tru7h> Unimatrix9: OKay, it's disconnected
[02:20] <smuggler8> Trying to get some help with installing my wireless USB network adapter. By running lshw and lsmod i know that my device is recognized but there is some problem with the driver not working
[02:20] <ziroday> doublehp: whats wrong?
[02:20] <__mikem> Phylo, no use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:20] <doublehp> ziroday: After update (breezy), X was broken; I fixed broken link /etc/X11/X to /usr/X11R6/bin/Xorg and now I am said: Elf_RelocateEntry() Unsupported relocation type => segfault; any idea ?
[02:20] <unimatrix9> then boot again, and if it fails , see with the partitioner if its has an labe , active... dont do anything else yet..
[02:20] <Phylo> um yeah, where was that file?
[02:21] <ziroday> doublehp: ouch, what graphics card? and how did you install it
[02:21] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : what program do you use to partition?
[02:21] <__mikem> /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:21] <smuggler8> Under lsmod i can see the driver that should be used but it is categorized under usb UNCLAIMED
[02:21] <tmbt> anyway .. someone know how to add an hardisk under Places->Computer ?
[02:21] <amigappc|need|ad> @chad holy sh.t ... there are a lot of laptops but not my version ^
[02:21] <doublehp> ziroday: used to work until apt-get update &&dist-upgrade :)
[02:21] <Chad> hrm
[02:21] <Chad> hold on
[02:21] <Chad> lemme look for more sites
[02:21] <doublehp> ziroday: PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801AB PCI Bridge
[02:22] <ziroday> doublehp: yeah breezy to dapper upgrade is akin to a wreking ball
[02:22] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, http://www.linux.org/hardware/laptop.html
[02:22] <Tru7h> Unimatrix9: Well, I was using GNOME Partition Editor. Both that and the partitioner in the LiveCD Installer show both disks as blank.
[02:22] <doublehp> ziroday: I dont have yet any dapper line in conf :)
[02:22] <ziroday> doublehp: you tried reconfiguring x?
[02:22] <Phylo> __mikem:  one sec, my dns servers are REALLY slow
[02:22] <doublehp> ziroday: no ;)
[02:22] <Phylo> tonight, I'll try to fix that tomorrow
[02:22] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, here's a compatibility list too: http://tuxmobil.org/laptop_manufacturer.html
[02:22] <ziroday> doublehp: u know how?
[02:22] <smuggler8> This is becoming a real headache and i've spent hours in forums and wiki etc trying to fix. The thing is it used to work ok with the edgy live cd but now it won't
[02:22] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : and you did not do anything ?
[02:23] <doublehp> ziroday: cause that is not my aim, so, I did not touch the conf
[02:23] <amigappc|need|ad> @chad the problem is, that i own a medion sim2000 laptop ... its a msi version ...
[02:23] <amigappc|need|ad> but its a discounter laptop ...
[02:23] <Chad> oooh
[02:23] <toe007> Does anyone know how to remove RealPlayer that was manually installed from *.bin under Feisty?
[02:23] <Chad> o_O
[02:23] <Chad> I think that you may have a problemo then
[02:23] <smuggler8> anyone know about wireless under fiesty?
[02:23] <ziroday> doublehp:  well segfault's are fatal and you can try a reconfigure or a reinstall sorry
[02:24] <doublehp> ziroday: i think the key point is that, it seems update migrated Xorg monoloyic to modular; it also did bad things on my debian when I did it last years
[02:24] <ziroday> smuggler8: ill try what card?
[02:24] <Tru7h> Unimatrix: All I tried to do was resize my NTFS partition, put an extension partition in (I had two other partitions already) and put an ext3 and a linux-swap partition in the extension to install Ubuntu on.
[02:24] <doublehp> ziroday: I had notupgrade this machine since >2y
[02:24] <smuggler8> it's a linksys USB one- based on zd1211rw
[02:24] <ziroday> doublehp: this is out of my reach sorry i recommend a reinstall
[02:25] <ziroday> smuggler8: linksys are notoriuos
[02:25] <ziroday> smuggler8: you using 7
[02:25] <ziroday> *7.04
[02:25] <smuggler8> yes just upgraded to 7.04
[02:25] <amigappc|need|ad> yeah i think so
[02:25] <doublehp> ziroday: what the apt option to force re-install of package ?
[02:25] <ziroday> smuggler8: did it work before
[02:25] <smuggler8> it worked under 6.10 live CD about 3months a go which is odd
[02:25] <amigappc|need|ad> but i want to be the master of the laptop and not be mastered by the laptop ^
[02:25] <doublehp> ziroday: I think the key point is the migration to modular
[02:25] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, does their website have any linux support on it?
[02:25] <Chad> I know dell does...
[02:25] <amigappc|need|ad> no
[02:25] <yeniklasor> IS Gnome desktop written with C++ ?
[02:26] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : yes i understand that...
[02:26] <amigappc|need|ad> medion doesnt ... and i dont remember witch msi laptop it was ...
[02:26] <doublehp> yeniklasor: some people even mention C#^^
[02:26] <__mikem> yeniklasor no its writen in C
[02:26] <smuggler8> but will not work under any ubuntu that i have available, live or otherwise
[02:26] <smuggler8> will work under xp
[02:26] <Phylo> __mikem:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23581/
[02:26] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : what would you like to do? repair xp bootloader?
[02:26] <amigappc|need|ad> but i can try to figure out witch and then i can have a look on the msi pagae
[02:27] <ziroday> smuggler8: hmm try unplugging then restarting
[02:27] <tmbt> well .. at least someone please tell me how to list all the running deamons on a server using command line :P
[02:27] <neopsyche> hello.. im here.. since the videolan channel is quite silent...
[02:27] <neopsyche> can anyone help me with a challenge?
[02:27] <neopsyche> greetings, I am in need of some advice on how to stream video over network.
[02:27] <neopsyche> 	<neopsyche>	Let me elaborate.... I have a small home/office network on 10/100/1000 cable running through ethernet broadband router.. computers are linked to the router using DHCP, I have satellite tv signal from decoder going into tv card on pc in office.. I want to stream this signal to my room pc at other desk. Can anyone help me configure this.
[02:27] <iDN> Hi everybody. Anyone has a clue where can i get dictionaries in .dic format?
[02:28] <ziroday> !ping
[02:28] <ubotu> pong
[02:28] <smuggler8> thanks ziroday, i guess i'll have to persevere, that's what sucks about linux- nobody wants to acknowledge it and make drivers
[02:28] <iDN> Try to search google. Couldn't find anything useful for my language.
[02:28] <sciboy> What software do you recommend for ripping and encoding a dvd?
[02:28] <doublehp> iDN: cant you export existing ones ?
[02:28] <ziroday> smuggler8: also theres ndiswrapper if all else fails
[02:28] <Phylo> __mikem:  Did you get that paste?  I know it took a while
[02:28] <arty123> Hello guys, in my kubuntu installation i am not having any file in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ and /proc/acpi/fan/, i have unloaded and reloaded acpi and fan modules, restarted acpi apm services. What should i do to know my cpu's temperature ?
[02:28] <neopsyche> try sourceforge may iDN
[02:28] <neopsyche> maby
[02:28] <neopsyche> or perhaps linux sites
[02:28] <sciboy> I have a portable video player I'd like to stock up with my collection. =P
[02:28] <Tru7h> Unimatrix9: I guess. If it'll help get Windows running.
[02:28] <neopsyche> Kubuntu has given me bad experience
[02:28] <ziroday> !dvd::rip | sciboy
[02:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd::rip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:29] <neopsyche> greetings, I am in need of some advice on how to stream video over network.
[02:29] <neopsyche> 	<neopsyche>	Let me elaborate.... I have a small home/office network on 10/100/1000 cable running through ethernet broadband router.. computers are linked to the router using DHCP, I have satellite tv signal from decoder going into tv card on pc in office.. I want to stream this signal to my room pc at other desk. Can anyone help me configure this.
[02:29] <smuggler8> i found the ndiswrapper thing a bit hard to grasp, could u recommend a good guide?
, well I tried to take .BGLs, but couldn't find any package for ubuntu which support them.
[02:29] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : i give you an how too, to read ok?
[02:29] <__mikem> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23583/ Phylo, I made some changes and I want you to put those changes in your file
[02:29] <ziroday> smuggler8: theres a gui for ubuntu in the repos
[02:29] <Tru7h> Unimatrix9: Okay
[02:29] <unimatrix9> http://amazingrando.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/fixmbr-is-your-friend/
[02:29] <ziroday> !ndiswrapper | smuggler8
[02:29] <ubotu> smuggler8: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:29] <rmd_> this is funny
[02:29] <unimatrix9> bookmark or read..good luck
[02:29] <ziroday> !madwifi | smuggler8
[02:29] <doublehp> iDN: this kind of filters usually require manual install; search freshmeat and sourceforge for projects
[02:29] <rmd_> i turned off "show marker line" in gnome-xchat... and low and behold.. its still friggin there
[02:30] <amigappc|need|ad> chad i think i made a failure ... i booted with acpi=off ... only then my laptop works with ubuntu ... does you know a way to reaktivate the acpi funktion ?
[02:30] <ziroday> !wireless > smuggler8
[02:30] <smuggler8> thanks
[02:30] <iDN> Thanks, <doublehp>, I'll and get back here if it wouldn't help. Thanks again.
[02:30] <Chad> it's inyour grub config
[02:30] <ziroday> amigappc|need|ad: acpi is only for comps that support it if you had to use acpi=off then youre comp cant support it
[02:31] <fargiolas> is it possible to write some udev rule to prevent hal to access a partion in any way? even if called with sudo?
[02:31] <Phylo> __mikem:  was it just those two security lines uncommented?  (just curious, I'm doing a copy-paste of the whole file)
[02:31] <Chad> looking at my laptop support I see Disable acpi at boot by adding  'acpi=off apm=on'  to the kernel line in grub config.
[02:31] <__mikem> I definitely uncommented more than 2 lines
[02:31] <Phylo> __mikem:  anyway, done
[02:31] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad,
[02:31] <amigappc|need|ad> @ziroday my comp supports buttons they need acpi ...
[02:32] <ziroday> amigappc|need|ad: then acpi options are in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:32] <__mikem> Phylo okay now see if xserver-xorg-ati-display is installed
[02:32] <ziroday> i think
[02:32] <Phylo> oh, everything except the commens :-)
[02:32] <Chad> amigappc|need|ad, I guess you would Disable acpi at boot by adding  'acpi=on apm=off'  to the kernel line in grub config.
[02:32] <Phylo> couldn't find package
[02:32] <Chad> erm enable
[02:32] <Tru7h> Firefox opens for about a second then the window closes.
[02:32] <hector> Hello everybody!!
[02:32] <amigappc|need|ad> i read pci=noacpi
[02:33] <ziroday> Tru7h: running compiz or beryl?
[02:33] <velko> fargiolas: you can restrict the access to a partition on mounting (even root won't be able to write for example if you mount the partition as read only). what are you trying to do?
[02:33] <Phylo> command:  "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-ati-display"
[02:33] <Tru7h> Ziroday: Nope, just the LiveCD
[02:33] <{DB}HobbitJa> me again lol, ok i tried the sudo mkdir and then mount cmd but get this: "unknown system filetype linux_raid_member"
[02:33] <Phylo> __mikem:  but that doesn't have anything to do with the card does it?  that just means it can't find the package
[02:33] <Phylo> I thought
[02:33] <ziroday> Tru7h: hmm you using brightside?
[02:34] <Tru7h> ziroday: I don't know what that is, so I don't think so.
[02:34] <__mikem> Phylo, granted, but if you were using an nvidia card the ONLY thing you would need is nvidia-glx
[02:34] <fargiolas> velko: i'm givin my old pc to my sister. It has two disk, the first disk is shared but has a partition that i want prevent her to access it. I've removed it from fstab but she's still able to mount it with hal
[02:34] <gudi> hi
[02:34] <ziroday> Phylo: u tried envy?
[02:34] <{DB}HobbitJa> hi
[02:34] <anilomkar> I am want update firefox from 2.0.0.3 to 2.0.0.4 please help me out (Feisty)
[02:34] <Phylo> is beryl the only way I can get that awesome cube?
[02:34] <Phylo> ziroday:  no I haven't
[02:34] <fargiolas> velko: i'd also like to have a user that can access it read and write
[02:35] <dark_> hello
[02:35] <fargiolas> velko: and to prevent access even with sudo
[02:35] <gudi> i have some problems with a script in event.d . If i use "start script" it works. But on boot it get not started .. Any idea ?
[02:35] <__mikem> phylo, yes
[02:35] <ziroday> Phylo: u can get the cube in compiz and #ddesktop but beryl is the best, you can get envy at www.albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:35] <shiftplusone> does anyone know if there's anything wrong with the Australian ubuntu servers?
[02:35] <amigappc|need|ad> ok guys my last question ... if there is avaible a intel 9xx driver
[02:35] <ziroday> Phylo: envy easily installs the drivers from ati for your card
[02:35] <Phylo> nvidia scripts, sounds like it might have trouble with ati cards
[02:36] <CheshireViking> !envy
[02:36] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[02:36] <__mikem> zirdoday, I have tried everything I know how to do and I can't get beryl to run on his machine, can you take over for me
[02:36] <elYase> #bash
[02:36] <ziroday> Phylo: it covers both
[02:36] <shiftplusone> synaptic doesn't install anything and apt-get stays on "waiting for headers" for about 5 minutes before installing
[02:36] <velko> fargiolas: if you put in fstab options like "noauto,user,uid=YOURUID" you'll be able to mount this partition, but not your sisters user
[02:36] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : maybe you just got an bad day....:P
[02:36] <Phylo> __mikem:  thank you tons
[02:36] <Phylo> __mikem:  you did at least get it to stop crashing X
[02:36] <__mikem> Sorry I couldn't help
[02:36] <ziroday> mikem" ill try :(
[02:36] <Ajits> what is Edgy?
[02:36] <__mikem> thanks
[02:36] <fargiolas> velko: thanks i'll give it a try
[02:36] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : or , your livecd is actually corrupted , check it.
[02:37] <ziroday> Phylo: what card exactly?
[02:37] <Phylo> Ajits:  Edgy is the name for Ubuntu 6
[02:37] <Tru7h> unimatrix9: I checked it before and it says there was one error
[02:37] <Chad> hey, from the live cd, it asks me if I wanna install 7.04 :)
[02:37] <Tru7h> but it didn't say what
[02:37] <__mikem> I am going to stick around so if ziroday manages to fix it, I will know what to do in the future
[02:37] <{DB}HobbitJa> Any idea how to mount a RAID sata drive?
[02:37] <velko> fargiolas: look at "man mount" for more options (they differ for the different file system types)
[02:37] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : does not sound to well then...
[02:37] <luca____> hello all:)
[02:37] <unimatrix9> :)
[02:37] <fargiolas> velko: ok
[02:37] <Phylo> ziroday:  ATI Radeon Xpress X200M
[02:37] <ziroday> Phylo: what gfx card exactly?
[02:38] <Phylo> sorry, I was looking it up
[02:38] <CapriCorn^80> wat u people if u want to jump from edgy to fiesty fawn ? new installation ?
[02:38] <Tru7h> unimatrix9: Okay;. I'll just save that link in a text file on my windows partition and reboot
[02:38] <ziroday> Phylo: that card i think only has 2d graphics for it, lemme go check
[02:38] <Phylo> lol
[02:38] <CapriCorn^80> wat u people if u want to jump from edgy to fiesty fawn ? new installation ?
[02:38] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : better print it if you can, since you cannot boot the Os
[02:38] <velko> __mikem: does "sudo lspci" help?
[02:38] <amigappc|need|ad>  ok girls. thx for the support ...  but i need more exp. thanks and have a nice weekend
[02:38] <Phylo> velko:  what will that do?
[02:39] <amigappc|need|ad> i will reconnect in the afternon after work
[02:39] <velko> Phylo: it lists all devices attached to the PCI bus
[02:39] <ziroday> Phylo: im sorry its all bad  2D Acceleration Only    Xpress 200M Northbridge integrated GPUs
[02:39] <Chad> see, that's why I don't buy noname laptops...
[02:39] <velko> Phylo: you can use the option "-v" for more info
[02:39] <Tru7h> unimatrix9: Yeah, but I can still get to the disk from nautilus
[02:39] <Phylo> ziroday:  that's bad for me isn't it
[02:40] <Chad> noname laptops = hardly anyone owns em, and support usally sucks, and linux installs are usally a pain
[02:40] <__mikem> velko funnily enough, the ASLA works witht eh soundcard. I don't need to configure it. But I always thought HP used creative labs cards and obviously this system doesn't use a creative labs card other wise sound wouldn't work right now
[02:40] <ziroday> Phylo: we can try
[02:40] <ziroday> __mikem: no most hp systens use an intergrated intel sound card
[02:40] <Tru7h> unimatrix9: Nevermind, read only disk... :/
[02:41] <Phylo> ziroday:  what if say, I give up the cube, and just go with the cool window effects?
[02:41] <__mikem> my mistake, but I am not complaining
[02:41] <velko> __mikem: does "lspci -v" tells you something about the sound card?
[02:41] <ziroday> Phylo: why dont you follwo this howto : http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_beryl_ati_radeon
[02:41] <Chad> you know it was actually easier setting up my wireless nic in linux than it was in windowS?
[02:41] <Phylo> ziroday:  If me being on Edgy Eft won't matter, then I will
[02:41] <ziroday> Phylo: can you upgrade?
[02:41] <Phylo> do I have to burn a CD and reinstall to upgrade?
[02:41] <Chad> I didn't even need the stupid cd, and craptastic linksys software
[02:42] <CheshireViking> !upgrade | Phylo
[02:42] <ubotu> Phylo: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[02:42] <ziroday> Phylo: no you can do it over the net
[02:42] <ziroday> Phylo: or you can try envy but i mite not work with your card
[02:42] <Phylo> ...Linux ******* PWNS windows.
[02:42] <fail> Alright guys, I set up ntfs-3g and ntfs-config, but when I use ntfs-config I can only enable reading and writing for external NTFS drives
[02:42] <Chad> I know Phylo
[02:42] <Chad> lol
[02:42] <Chad> I just wish everyone ported to linux...
[02:43] <fail> I also have myself set to use fuse filesystems
[02:43] <ziroday> fail: you need to install all the ntfs drivers in synaptic
[02:43] <fail> All of them
[02:43] <fail> Oh
[02:43] <fail> Okay
[02:43] <fail> Thanks
[02:43] <ziroday> Chad: i wish ati and creative supported linux
[02:43] <ziroday> fail: np
[02:43] <__mikem> velko, I see a whole bunch of network divices, and my nvidia graphics card,but no soundcard
[02:43] <Phylo> ziroday:  ok.  Working on upgrading
[02:43] <ziroday> Phylo: gd luck
[02:43] <Chad> ziroday, I wish all my favorite games did...
[02:44] <ziroday> Chad: oh yeah that too
[02:44] <ziroday> Chad: what games?
[02:44] <__mikem> ziroday, creative labs products are all $h!t
[02:44] <user_> hi , when i start heroes IV setup from .iso on loopmount, with wine or cedega (any of them) , nothing happens
[02:44] <ziroday> __mikem: encore encore lol
[02:44] <Chad> one is an mmo I play called last chaos, they used to work with wine, but then they added some anti-cheat code that trips up on wine...
[02:45] <Chad> it thinks it's running twice on wine...
[02:45] <Phylo> !!!173 things to update
[02:45] <ziroday> Chad: u tried cedega?
[02:45] <Chad> yeah
[02:45] <ziroday> Phylo: it mite take a while
[02:45] <Tru7h> unimatrix9: Can you hold onto that link while I reboot please?
[02:45] <Chad> that don't work at all with that game, never has
[02:45] <ziroday> Chad: crossover?
[02:45] <unimatrix9> yes , 10min
[02:45] <unimatrix9> :P
[02:45] <Chad> same deal
[02:45] <Tru7h> xD
[02:45] <Tru7h> i'll be back
[02:45] <Chad> the developers don't even care either
[02:45] <Chad> lol
[02:46] <ziroday> chano they dont unfortunatly
[02:46] <Chad> but I got 2 windows machines here, so no biggy
[02:46] <Phylo> one's called xserver-xorg-video-all, don't kill me __mikem :-d
[02:46] <__mikem> Phylo, lol
[02:46] <ziroday> Chad: the day CS:S comes to linux will be the day heaven opens up
[02:46] <utopiah> hello
[02:46] <Chad> I couldn't install linux on this machine if I wanted to
[02:46] <Phylo> I think I'll try beryll again after updating, before going to fiesta
[02:46] <Chad> lol ziroday
[02:46] <Chad> that was an april fools joke at linuxgames.com one year
[02:47] <Phylo> !wtf CS:S
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wtf cs:s - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <Chad> they were like: Valve releases secretive Linux Port!
[02:47] <ziroday> @42
[02:47] <Chad> CS:S is counter strike: source
[02:47] <Breetai> Hi all, I have a dual boot machine feisty fawn/Xp. I had not run xp in weeks, ran it last night, rebooted, and now my computer is locking after the message "Activating Swapfile  OK". Any ideas?
[02:47] <utopiah> holy shit, so many people here
[02:47] <__mikem> Phylo, whats CS:S
[02:48] <PriceChild> !ohmy | utopiah
[02:48] <ubotu> utopiah: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:48] <Phylo> oooh
[02:48] <utopiah> sorry :)
[02:48] <ziroday> __mikem: counter strike source
[02:48] <__mikem> oh
[02:48] <sipior> he said "holy" shit, which is pretty family-friendly!
[02:48] <PriceChild> sipior, Please don't.
[02:48] <__mikem> !ohmy sipior
[02:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ohmy sipior - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:48] <doublehp> which is more recent: breezy or hoary ?
[02:48] <utopiah> sipior, "she" ;)
[02:49] <ziroday> doublehp: breezy
[02:49] <sipior> utopiah: either way :)
[02:49] <utopiah> sure :)
[02:49] <doublehp> ziroday: whats more recent than breezy ? dapper ?
[02:49] <__mikem> doublehp, none of them are resent
[02:49] <ziroday> doublehp: yeah
[02:49] <CheshireViking> doublehp, the most recent version if 7.04 Feisty Fawn
[02:49] <ziroday> doublehp: then edgy then fiesty
[02:49] <doublehp> ziroday: do you think i can "try" a migration to dapper before formating ?
[02:50] <utopiah> is it worth it to upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[02:50] <ziroday> doublehp: what u mean
[02:50] <sipior> utopiah: usually
[02:50] <ziroday> hi its nick here
[02:50] <kore2> ive installed ubuntu but my internet connection doesn't work on my laptop...
[02:50] <ziroday> whoops sorry wrongggggggg chat lol
[02:50] <doublehp> ziroday: to try to fix my X problem, you said you advertise me to re-install; can I try an upgrade to dapper first ?
[02:50] <Phylo> lol, ubotu pmed me to say "I'm only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent."
[02:50] <utopiah> sipior, thanks ... i never know if there are more bugs in new versions
[02:50] <Chad> kore2, what brand laptop and wireless nic?
[02:51] <kore2> Chad: Toshiba
[02:51] <rmd_> should i install gnome baker or xfburn?
[02:51] <Chad> integrated nic?
[02:51] <Chad> kore2 ^
[02:51] <fail> ziroday: I installed all the ntfs packages in snyaptic
[02:51] <fail> And I still have the same problem
[02:51] <utopiah> gnome baker is pretty cool
[02:52] <ziroday> fail: restart
[02:52] <xzu> anybody here knows if it's possible to attache to a spawned vncviewer?
[02:52] <Chad> kore2, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsToshiba
[02:52] <xzu> xm create spawns it, but does not create a window
[02:52] <kore2> Chad: yea, I think so, on my icon it says 'Enable Networking' which is enalbed and 'Enable Wireless' it disabled
[02:52] <rmd_> is there a way to turn off the background fading when i get a password prompt?
[02:52] <Chad> check out that page kore2
[02:53] <Chad> see if it says anything about ur nic
[02:53] <ziroday> Phylo: hows the upgrade going?
[02:53] <tarnap_> hi dudes! got a little question :D
[02:53] <doublehp> ziroday: to try to fix my X problem, you said you advertise me to re-install; can I try an upgrade to dapper first ?
[02:53] <kore2> Chad: ok, hold on
[02:54] <ziroday> doublehp: sure
[02:54] <ziroday> doublehp: cant think why not
[02:54] <Phylo> well I have a lot of upgrading to do
[02:54] <Phylo> I've got to get off this comp anyway
[02:54] <Phylo> I'll see you afterward, probably, hopefully, on xchat
[02:54] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : are you back already?
[02:54] <ziroday> Phylo: cya
[02:55] <unimatrix9> got to go in 5min
[02:55] <Phylo> peace, and a million thanks to __mikem, and a bunch to ziroday
[02:55] <ziroday> Phylo: good luck
[02:55] <kore2> Chad: I don't see anything that could help me out
[02:55] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : are you back already?
[02:55] <__mikem> Good luck Phylo
[02:55] <kore2> Chad: do you have any ideas?
[02:55] <Chad> have you properly setup your nic in the networking section?
[02:55] <Chad> or does it even see it?
[02:55] <kore2> Chad: how can I check that?
[02:56] <Chad> system>adminastration>networking
[02:56] <unimatrix9> !fixmbr
[02:56] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:56] <Chad> I had to setup my network on the nic with no security on the router...
[02:57] <Chad> so most likely I'm gonna have my neighbors leechin me again...
[02:57] <tarnap_> i have dualbooting ubuntu (1 feisty + 1 edgy), everytime there's a kernel update on feisty i have to write the new entry down to the menu.lst in edgy's menu.lst... would a common partition for /boot/ solve this problem?
[02:57] <kore2> Chad: its set to 'Wired connection' address: dhcp
[02:57] <sipior> tarnap_: that would be a bit dangerous, i would guess
[02:57] <Chad> kore2, you don't see any wireless slots on there?
[02:57] <sipior> tarnap_: why dual boot feisty and edgy?
[02:57] <Chad> hell I had 2...
[02:58] <tarnap_> i have my reasons ;)
[02:58] <tarnap_> why should it be dangerous?
[02:58] <kore2> Chad: I have 'Wireless connection, Roaming mode enabled' and 'Modem connection'
[02:58] <Chad> ONLY wired?
[02:58] <iDN> OK, i found the package I needed, downloaded a tar.gz file, followed a guide to install using the terminal. Now I'm having a stupid problem... Where the files i have just compiled?
[02:58] <sipior> tarnap_: actually, if you keep the kernel updates separate, there would be no conflict, but there's no guarantee that a recent kernel wouldn't break edgy
[02:58] <Chad> roaming?!?!
[02:58] <Pelo> tarnap_, not likely,  just copy your edgy entry to a text file and it will save you the trouble of rewriting it,  you can just copy/paste it
[02:58] <unimatrix9> Tru7h : are you back already?
[02:58] <kore2> Chad: but its a minus in front of wireless and modem connection.
[02:58] <kore2> Chad: yea
[02:58] <Tru7h> unimatrix9: Yeah
[02:58] <Chad> kore2, is this a cellular wireless we are talkin about here?
[02:58] <unimatrix9> http://amazingrando.wordpress.com/2007/04/05/fixmbr-is-your-friend/
[02:59] <Tru7h> Took a bit >>
[02:59] <Tru7h> xD
[02:59] <tarnap_> i hate copy-pasting... that's why i want to unify it
[02:59] <unimatrix9> yes i see..well got to go, hopefully you get it fixed..
[02:59] <unimatrix9> bye bye
[02:59] <Pelo> tarnap_, maybe the ppl in #grub might have an answer for you
[02:59] <Tru7h> Thanks
[02:59] <kore2> Chad: no.. I want to connect with Wired connection
[02:59] <tarnap_> stimmt!
[02:59] <Chad> ooooh
[02:59] <unimatrix9> np
[02:59] <unimatrix9> bye
[02:59] <Chad> well
[02:59] <unimatrix9> all
[02:59] <sipior> tarnap_: actually, it could work, the kernel entries would be separate anyhow.
[02:59] <ferronica> when i play MP3 via VLC produce crackling sound , any one tell me what could be the problem?
[02:59] <tarnap_> thanks... il ask those grub dudes ;)
[03:00] <Chad> ok, we talkin to a router or phone modem or what?
[03:00] <ferronica> or do i need to install extra plug in for it ?
[03:00] <kore2> Chad: I don't have any phone modem or a router
[03:00] <Pelo> ferronica, how do you mp3 sounds in other apps ?
[03:00] <Chad> what kind of connection? Cable? Dsl? T1?
[03:00] <kore2> Chad: cabled
[03:00] <kore2> Chad: cable*
[03:00] <Chad> alright, hold on...
[03:01] <kore2> Chad: sure
[03:01] <Chad> it should just be DHCP
[03:01] <Chad> and autodetect and BLAM done
[03:01] <kore2> Chad: it is but it doesnt work, don't know the reason
[03:02] <Chad> gimme a second to install all these 171 updates... then I'll look at it
[03:02] <Chad> it's 75 percent done...
[03:02] <kore2> Chad: ohh, k
[03:02] <z3r0ph3wl> i have problem with my ubuntu second time its freeze... i can move mouse but its sow slow
[03:02] <ferronica> Pelo: perfect , i use Rhythmbox
[03:02] <tarnap_> songbird 4 life!
[03:03] <ziroday> tarnap_: songbirds awesome cant wait till they get ti out of beta
[03:03] <Chad> kore2, did you get my pm?
[03:03] <tarnap_> yeah... it's great... it doesn't have the look and feel of a usual application but it's great
[03:03] <kore2> Chad: no.. I'm not registered
[03:04] <Chad> oh
[03:04] <Drel3> have problem with wine, anyone
[03:04] <Chad> what's ur problem Drel3?
[03:04] <Drel3> when i start wine i see just black screen and then login menu, anyone know what is cousing this
[03:04] <ferronica> Pelo: any idea?
[03:04] <Chad> Drel3, what program are you trying to run?
[03:04] <Drel3> wine
[03:05] <Drel3> emulator
[03:05] <Chad> I know that
[03:05] <z3r0ph3wl> i have problem with my ubuntu second time its freeze... i can move mouse but its sow slow. then i use restart by button on pc. what it could be?
[03:05] <Pici> Drel3: What program are you trying to run with wine?
[03:05] <Chad> What windows program are you trying to run with wine...
[03:05] <Drel3> ah utorrent
[03:05] <Felarin> utorrent should be fine in wine, in fact, i'm running it now with wine
[03:05] <Chad> there are good torrent apps for linux you know, you don't need wine...
[03:05] <Felarin> what's the issue?
[03:05] <sipior> z3r0ph3wl: slow as in choppy? or maybe the mouse speed just needs increasing?
[03:06] <Chad> I use bittornado
[03:06] <Chad> on this pc though I use bitcomet
[03:06] <Drel3> utorrent was working for me ago 5 day but now
[03:06] <ferronica> when i play MP3 via VLC produce crackling sound , any one tell me what could be the problem?
[03:06] <Felarin> did you move the path of utorrent? if so, you must modify the launcher as well
[03:06] <Chad> Drel3, did you do anything to your wine since then?
[03:07] <Chad> thanks Felarin :)
[03:07] <Drel3> i remove him
[03:07] <Drel3> then agin install
[03:07] <Drel3> again
[03:07] <sipior> z3r0ph3wl: sorry, that was a dumb thing to say, of course you meant choppy. are you running compiz or beryl? also, which video card?
[03:07] <Felarin> ferronica : does this happen only with VLC? tried other apps?
[03:07] <ferronica> when i use i use Rhythmbox its perfect no problem
[03:07] <Felarin> Drel3 : did you purge it completely before reinstalling?
[03:07] <z3r0ph3wl> sipior,  no i run simple metacity no extra but yeah i have installed beryl just dont use it
[03:08] <ferronica> Felarin: yes with VLC only
[03:08] <Felarin> ferronica : what version of VLC media player are you using? Could be some settings that you might need to tweak.
[03:08] <Drel3> i tryed wit eh rijecnik thats program for word dictionary in my country
[03:08] <Drel3> with
[03:08] <shoot`> fellas, using gnome, is there any way to get the trash (eg. the trash icon itself) to contain trash from all the drives?
[03:08] <Drel3> and is same
[03:08] <ferronica> Felarin: VLC media player 0.8.6 (wxWidgets interface)
[03:08] <Tru7h> This is really stupid but what does it mean to mount or unmount a drive?
[03:09] <sipior> z3r0ph3wl: and there's nothing running in the background?
[03:09] <Chad> Tru7h, if a drive is mounted you can look at it and modify files, if it isn't mounted you can't...
[03:09] <Tru7h> Okay
[03:09] <Pelo> ferronica, sorry I was afk,  I'm guessing you just need to pick the right audio thingy in vlc, maybe the ppl in #vlc can tell you which one
[03:09] <Tru7h> Thanks
[03:09] <Drel3> i remove him complete
[03:09] <tarnap_> those guys @ #grub gave me the correct answer :D
[03:09] <Chad> Tru7h, you can mount many types of formats too, like a windows partition
[03:09] <Chad> or a usb thumb drive
[03:09] <moo-foo> Whats a good naming standard for files on a file-server, i.e - /home/shares/music or /data/music or /data/music? I 'd like to work to a general standard while building my first file server, any thoughts?
[03:10] <Felarin> ferronica : audio output
[03:10] <Felarin> ferronica : are you using alsa? if you use alsa, you should be good.
[03:10] <ferronica> Felarin: yes alsa
[03:10] <sipior> moo-foo: no real standard, just pick the most natural structure for you
[03:11] <Felarin> ferronica : do you have any other output engines available? OSS?
[03:11] <ben_underscore> moo-foo: it depends. at my work we have a disk array and we use automounts to point to different directory structures so we might have /data/seismic or /data/petrophysics
[03:11] <ben_underscore> moo-foo: it's up to you
[03:11] <z3r0ph3wl> sipior,  nop
[03:11] <Felarin> ferronica : i googled and someone had a similar problem to yours, he fixed it by switching output plugins.
[03:11] <Chad> ben_underscore, you work for the oil industry?
[03:11] <sipior> z3r0ph3wl: and the trouble started at install, or has it changed behaviour recently?
[03:11] <Chad> lol
[03:12] <ben_underscore> Chad: yep
[03:12] <ben_underscore> Chad: what about you?
[03:12] <Chad> I just got out of the army injured....
[03:12] <Chad> broke my pelvis
[03:12] <ser_> server pluton.irc-hispano.org
[03:12] <ben_underscore> Chad: yow! sorry to hear it
[03:12] <moo-foo> ouch, get well soon...
[03:12] <Chad> no worries :)
[03:13] <Pelo> Chad, too much humping ?
[03:13] <ivanneto> I would like to know how many mb/s is flowing through a network interface. How can I do this?
[03:13] <Pelo> sorry I had to make the joke
[03:13] <Chad> lol
[03:13] <ben_underscore> Chad: australian?
[03:13] <Chad> too little
[03:13] <Chad> American
[03:14] <iDN> OK, I made it. Thank you all!
[03:15] <Chad> ben_underscore, how's the oil industry doing?
[03:16] <ben_underscore> Chad: really well ... oil price is right up
[03:16] <sipior> ivanneto: i don't know of a single package that does this, but you can always just do succesive timings of a file transfer. of course, there are a number of assumptions implicit in that. it's can be a rapidly varying quantity at times
[03:16] <Chad> gas here is huge
[03:16] <Chad> over 3usd a gallon
[03:16] <alessandro_> ciao
[03:16] <Tinned_Tuna> heya
[03:16] <ben_underscore> Chad: same here ... we also use linux a lot for databases and file servers, but mainly red hat
[03:17] <ivanneto> sipior: OK, thanks!
[03:17] <sipior> ivanneto: or you can count packets with ethereal or the like and compare timing information
[03:17] <Chad> I used redhat 6 waaay back in the day, using that makes you love ubuntu
[03:17] <sipior> amazing there isn't a package for this; everyone seems to ask about it...
[03:17] <Tinned_Tuna> anyone here really familiar with VMWare Player? I'm trying to make an application launcher on the desktop to launch the VM that I'd like from the desktop (i.e. just double click the icon)
[03:17] <Chad> RPM's sucked hard
[03:17] <alessandro_> ma che  sta roba?
[03:18] <ferronica> Felarin: can you please give me the link
[03:18] <sipior> alessandro_: not really, no
[03:18] <ivanneto> sipior: I don't have ethereal at the machine. But I'll try through ifconfig, which gives me the number of packets. I wish there was a better way, but it seems that thre isn't.
[03:18] <Pelo> Tinned_Tuna, #vmware
[03:18] <Felarin> ferronica : i closed it =.=, lol, it's from the VLC forums.
[03:18] <ben_underscore> Tinned_Tuna: just link to the .vmx file
[03:18] <Tinned_Tuna> Pelo: Checked, no one's anwearing :(
[03:18] <Tinned_Tuna> oo wait
[03:18] <Tinned_Tuna> my tab blinked
[03:18] <ben_underscore> Tinned_Tuna: is it .vmx? i cannot remember exactly
[03:19] <Pelo> Tinned_Tuna, you need patience,  not everychannel is as well attended as #ubuntu
[03:19] <malaopotk> de ke se parla?
[03:20] <sipior> !it > malaopotk
[03:20] <Pelo> !it | malaopotk
[03:20] <ubotu> malaopotk: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:20] <zaggynl> Anyone knows a tool to show network usage (download/upload in kb) for the command line?
[03:20] <Chad-Laptop> weee
[03:20] <Chad-Laptop> it works
[03:20] <sipior> zaggynl: /sbin/ifconfig
[03:20] <Tinned_Tuna> ben_underscore: yes it is, but if I double click mine, it just launches Gedit to poke the config file :/
[03:21] <ben_underscore> Tinned_Tuna: is it the other one? i used to use that, but don't have vmware installed at the moment
[03:21] <Tinned_Tuna> the vmdk? I think they're virtual machine disk files
[03:21] <Tinned_Tuna> and when you launch the player via the menus and navigate to it, it's the VMX you select to open
[03:22] <RabidWeezle> looks like nickserv already had a chad claimed...
[03:22] <RabidWeezle> :/
[03:22] <kore2> hi, can someone help me to setup my wired connection, if I type ifconfig I get eth0 lo and wifi0-00
[03:22] <Tinned_Tuna> ahh
[03:22] <Felarin> kore2 : eth0 is your LAN card.
[03:22] <RabidWeezle> kore2, I'm chad, I'll help you now since my pc is all done...
[03:22] <zaggynl> sipior, isn't that only for configuring NICs?
[03:22] <kore2> Felarin: and how can I use only eth0 and lo?
[03:23] <Tinned_Tuna> on the right click > Properties, I could change it to VMWare Player as the default, rather than gedit
[03:23] <sipior> zaggynl: no, it shows interface information as well
[03:23] <Felarin> kore2 : you've got 1 NIC right?
[03:23] <RabidWeezle> ok, jump back to your network settings kore2, eth0 is your ethernet
[03:23] <sipior> zaggynl: look for "TX packets" and "RX packets"
[03:23] <zaggynl> sipior, okay, cool :D
[03:23] <Pelo>  sudo pkill humidity
[03:23] <Felarin> sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[03:23] <ben_underscore> Tinned_Tuna: can't you right click on the vmx and select "open with other application" and then select vmware?
[03:23] <Felarin> you can then edit the properties of your eth0
[03:23] <Felarin> or you can use ifconfig directly from the CLI
[03:23] <kore2> Felarin: I've got in network setting: wireless connection, wired connection and modem connection
[03:24] <Felarin> yeah but you need help with your wired connection yea?
[03:24] <Felarin> so modify eth0, that's the one you need.
[03:24] <kore2> Felarin: exactly
[03:24] <kore2> Felarin: how?
[03:24] <Tinned_Tuna> ben_underscore: that was my problem, the default app was wrong, I've changed it now :)
[03:24] <Felarin> RabidWeezle : what for?
[03:24] <Felarin> kore2 : i just told you
[03:24] <hyuma> guys sorry
[03:24] <ben_underscore> Tinned_Tuna: great!
[03:24] <hyuma> how can I check my ubuntu version?
[03:24] <RabidWeezle> lol
[03:24] <Felarin> in the first place, when you type ifconfig, do you get an ip address result?
[03:24] <hyuma> there is a command?
[03:24] <RabidWeezle> I donno
[03:24] <Felarin> /etc/lsb-release
[03:25] <Felarin> cat /etc/lsb-release
[03:25] <Felarin> that way, you chech your ubuntu version
[03:25] <Felarin> check*
[03:25] <burepe> I have been trying to fix this "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" problem for about a month after upgrading to fiesty. I tried to boot from the old kernel (2.6.17-10) and I get this error "WARNING: bad format on line 7 of /etc/fstab" Any suggestions on how to fix this and make the old kernel boot?
[03:25] <hyuma> you funny Felarin
[03:25] <hyuma> thank you
[03:25] <hyuma> :)
[03:25] <Felarin> ??
[03:25] <hyuma> very kindly guy
[03:25] <Felarin> why am i funny?
[03:25] <hyuma> sorry my english no good
[03:25] <Felarin> oh.. you're welcome~
[03:25] <kore2> Felarin: ok, wait a sec
[03:26] <hyuma> to update my breezy to edgy
[03:26] <Felarin> kore2 : okay
[03:26] <hyuma> needs only change names on repo right?
[03:26] <mangojambo> hi ... it is bad!!! My USB multicard reader just mount my SD card when it wants to do!!!
[03:26] <mangojambo> sometimes work, sometimes not!!
[03:27] <Felarin> mangojambo : if you have trouble mounting, mount yourself, sudo mount -t vfat /media/usbblahblaHBLAH /mountpoint.
[03:27] <Pelo> hyuma,  you cannot update from breezy to edgy,  you can only update to the next release,   you are better off downloading the version you want and makkiing a clean install
[03:27] <sipior> burepe: what is this job control issue? this doesn't prevent booting into feisty i assume?
[03:27] <burepe> sipior it does
[03:27] <Felarin> mangojambo : if it's a device permanently plugged in, you can let it automount via the fstab file
[03:27] <RabidWeezle> this runs sooo much smoother than that win2k installation
[03:27] <sipior> burepe: and that's the only error? how far does it get in booting?
[03:28] <hyuma> Pelo thank you, I'm with ibook G4, so is better download another powerPC cd?
[03:28] <sipior> actually, my one huge complaint about ubuntu is that it is so awkward to go from splashscreen to useful boot information
[03:28] <mangojambo> Felarin: but that is the problem ... I dont know what is this usb device !!
[03:28] <burepe> sipior I can't boot into the system after upgrade. It doesn't boot at all. It seem that this problem is so common but caused by uncountable reasons
[03:28] <Felarin> it's not
[03:28] <Felarin> just edit boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:28] <Felarin> and remove the splash option from the bootlines
[03:28] <Pelo> hyuma,  that would be best,  go straight ot feisty you'll like it
[03:28] <sipior> Felarin: that's what i mean by "awkward"
[03:29] <sipior> Felarin: when a system is crapping on boot, that's an annoying thing t bother with
[03:29] <Felarin> mangojambo : cat /dev/bus/usb/devices
[03:29] <thirdy> what's the winamp for ubuntu?
[03:29] <Felarin> sipior : i think they didn't wanna scare new users with the boot fo
[03:29] <Felarin> info
[03:30] <Felarin> for experienced users, it's just a one time config thing, for new users, they wouldn't freak out from a splash screen
[03:30] <goban> whats a fast dvd ripping program?
[03:30] <Felarin> thirdy : xmms player
[03:30] <Daverocks> thirdy: amarok, rhythmbox, exaile, banshee, and more. choose one :P
[03:30] <sipior> Felarin: right, and other distros used to have an option of "hit F1 for startup info" or the like
[03:30] <Pelo> thirdy, beep music player is the one most similar looking
[03:30] <ben_underscore> thirdy: totem or xmms
[03:30] <Daverocks> thirdy: actually Felarin is more correct, xmms is like a winamp clone
[03:30] <hyuma> Pelo,  ok thank you I will donwload feisty, unfortunately I've recevied PC versione of feisty :(
[03:30] <Felarin> thirdy : xmms is a total winamp lookalike.
[03:30] <Felarin> thirdy : you'd feel right @ home with it
[03:30] <CyD> goban, k3b :)
[03:31] <kore2> my eth0 is not set correctly, i've got another inet addr
[03:31] <thirdy> I'm a total ubuntu newbie
[03:31] <sipior> burepe: and Dr Google turned up nothing? it's an unusual error. did the problem start immediately after upgrading to Feisty?
[03:31] <ben_underscore> thirdy: we all were once!
[03:31] <kore2> how can I modify my eth0?
[03:31] <CyD> thirdy, amarok is worth a try as well. it can look like winamp if you want
[03:31] <Felarin> goban : dd if=devicesource of=pathoutput
[03:31] <Pelo> hyuma, honestly, if you can download it , don'T order the cd from canonical,  you'Re just costing them money for no good reason
[03:31] <Felarin> BEST DVD ripper EVER
[03:31] <Felarin> command line
[03:31] <Felarin> nothing beats it
[03:31] <hyuma> no no
[03:31] <hyuma> I've received ubuntu 7.04 for free
[03:31] <st3-f> thirdy: xmms
[03:32] <Pelo> hyuma,  you got it for free,  but the ppl who sent it had to pay for it
[03:32] <mangojambo> Felarin: it is not ... it can mount 25 types of cards ... (but I just need one!!) and when I plug this usb reader  (I d tried with SD card plugged and unplugged ...) the power light on.. but not anymore the sd card ...
[03:32] <Daverocks> Felarin: yeah, problem is you need libdvdcss to SEE the block device ;)
[03:32] <hyuma> ah
[03:32] <ben_underscore> Pelo: don't harass the poor guy
[03:32] <Felarin> that isn't an issue Dave, if you know how to use the CLI, it's easy
[03:32] <burepe> sipior there are 20 or more post with hundreds of people who have the same problem on the ubunutu forums and there is no concensus on how to fix it. It is caused by upgrading. The fiesty live cd also has the problem
[03:32] <st3-f> thirdy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XMMS
[03:32] <psycho_> hola people
[03:32] <psycho_> thirdy.....everyone starts out there
[03:33] <Pelo> ben_underscore,  I am not,  I was just explaining
[03:33] <Daverocks> Felarin: easy to install libdvdcss you mean?
[03:33] <ben_underscore> Pelo: cool
[03:33] <Felarin> Daverocks : Yep
[03:33] <mangojambo> Felarin: and lsusb give me that : Bus 001 Device 005: ID 058f:6362 Alcor Micro Corp.
[03:33] <Felarin> Daverocks : but with ubuntu, i didn't even need to
[03:33] <rever75> Hi, how can I force a removal of a package while ignoring any dependency issues.
[03:33] <Felarin> Daverocks : cause i installed some other programs, that depended on it
[03:34] <Daverocks> Felarin: yep sure
[03:34] <Felarin> Daverocks : if you use apt-get for everything, you can even download apt-on-cd for easy deployment once you do it once
[03:34] <CyD> xmms is deprecated
[03:34] <Daverocks> Felarin: i use mplayer from the CLI to rip dvds... mplayer has libdvdcss built in
[03:34] <kore2> my eth0 is not set correctly, i've got another inet addr. can someone tell me how can I modify my eth0 please?
[03:34] <Felarin> yeah i've got mplayer installed and some dvd burning apps also require it
[03:34] <rever75> what I am trying to do is remove gaim but keep everything that may have a dependency to it. Like ubuntu desktop
[03:35] <Felarin> but with brasero, which i feel is the fastest gnome burner i've ever used, the current ubuntu package has a bug
[03:35] <Daverocks> kore2: uh, hang on a sec
[03:35] <Felarin> you cant copy to ISO
[03:35] <kore2> Daverocks: ok
[03:35] <Felarin> so i use DD instead, which works for me, cause i love the speed of brasero
[03:35] <Pelo> rever75, ubuntu desktop is just a meta package you can remove it without fear
[03:35] <Felarin> it even has an icon for gnome which shows progress on the panel
[03:35] <Bitmess> Knoppix channel is dead, Anyone know where I can get a default sources.list for knoppix 5.1.1? please?
[03:35] <mangojambo> Felarin: and now it works!!! I just plugged in another usb  ...  man, that is strange!!
[03:35] <ben_underscore> Felarin: does brasero read dd images?
[03:35] <Felarin> mangojambo : yeah, it's really a mangobonger aint it
[03:36] <Felarin> yes it does ben
[03:36] <sipior> Bitmess: and the knoppix website has nothing?
[03:36] <Felarin> i use DD and then i burn it in brasero
[03:36] <Felarin> works fine
[03:36] <rever75> Pelo, well there are other packages too. is there any way to remove just gaim and nothing else. Ie tell dpkg to ignore package dependencies
[03:36] <sipior> Bitmess: i'd tell if you if i knew, but i'd just end up looking there for it :)
[03:36] <Daverocks> kore2: system -> administration -> networking
[03:36] <Bitmess> sipior,  I don't see anything about it in English.
[03:36] <Felarin> rever75
[03:36] <Felarin> use synaptic
[03:36] <Daverocks> i needed to VNC into my ubuntu box to check the GUI way of doing it :P
[03:36] <Felarin> should be fine there
[03:36] <Pelo> rever75, I don'T know sorry,  but ubuntu desktop you don'T have to worry about
[03:37] <Felarin> daverocks : the GUI way of doing what?
[03:37] <kore2> Daverocks: you mean system - admin - network, right?
[03:37] <Daverocks> Felarin: changing inet addr
[03:37] <Bitmess> sipior,  I'll keep looking. thanks
[03:37] <Daverocks> kore2: yeah
[03:37] <Felarin> i can check for you now
[03:37] <sipior> Bitmess: wiki at www.knoppix.net, have you looked there?
[03:37] <Daverocks> Felarin: i already found it, it's system -> administration -> networking
[03:37] <Felarin> System ---> Administration ---> Network
[03:37] <MiMiC> can any1 please help me install ubuntu on my tablet pc
[03:37] <Felarin> although i won't suggest using the GUI for changing
[03:37] <Felarin> it would help if you learn how to use the interfaces file or ifconfig
[03:38] <Felarin> that way, you can do it even in init1 for Debian systems
[03:38] <kore2> Daverocks: i have wired connection enabled but it doesn't work..
[03:38] <Daverocks> Felarin: but for a beginner, he just needs to get things done
[03:38] <{DB}HobbitJa> Hello, How would i go about remove the root password from /etc/shadow ?
[03:38] <Felarin> kore2 : click on properties
[03:38] <Pelo> MiMiC, if no one volunteeers any help, try the forum there might be something there
[03:38] <Felarin> kore2 : does it say DHCP and is roaming mode enabled?
[03:38] <kore2> Felarin: yes
[03:38] <Felarin> try this
[03:39] <Daverocks> kore2: is it activated...?
[03:39] <Felarin> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:39] <MiMiC> i have a particular problem: the ubuntu partitioner does not recognize my partitions
[03:39] <Felarin> and try ifconfig after that
[03:39] <Felarin> see if you get an IP address
[03:39] <Bitmess> sipior,  yeah, but I could have overlooked it
[03:39] <kore2> Felarin: ok, wait a second please
[03:39] <Felarin> yeah and make sure it's activated
[03:39] <MiMiC> i have tried looking in the forums... but i did not get any help
[03:39] <Felarin> before you do that please
[03:39] <kore2> Felarin: should I enable Roaming mode?
[03:39] <Felarin> yeah
[03:39] <MrEgg964> hi all. Under Feisty, how can I install the necessary codecs to play Divx avi, mpg etc. ?
[03:40] <kore2> Felarin: ok, brb
[03:40] <ferronica> my ubuntu clock never show me right time
[03:40] <Felarin> MrEgg964 : Try using mplayer, you can also get w32 codec package for windows formats. Personally, i just install xvid + w32 codecs and i compile xine.
[03:40] <Pelo> MrEgg964, they should get installed as needed but  you can install all the gstreamer 10 from synaptic,  that should take care of most of it
[03:40] <ferronica> if i change it it will directly effect on my system it
[03:41] <st3-f> MrEgg964: try VLC.
[03:41] <Daverocks> !codecs | MrEgg964
[03:41] <Felarin> ferronica : changing it will be fine
[03:41] <ubotu> MrEgg964: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:41] <Pelo> later folks
[03:41] <Felarin> !boo | Felarin
[03:41] <mh_le> what's the package name for zlib and zlib-devel?
[03:41] <Felarin> hey.. no fair!
[03:41] <MiMiC> can any1 please help? the ubuntu partitioner does not recognize my partitions
[03:41] <Felarin> oh, i forgot the name, gimme a sec mh_le
[03:41] <sipior> mh_le: might try libz
[03:42] <Daverocks> MiMiC: any peculiar partitioning layout? using raid?
[03:42] <thirdy> FINALLY!!! I've an mp3 playing now!!!
[03:42] <Daverocks> thirdy: congrats ;)
[03:42] <{DB}HobbitJa> Anyone know how to open /etc/shadow/ ?
[03:42] <thirdy> I'm starting to like that sudo
[03:42] <Daverocks> {DB}HobbitJa: sudo?
[03:42] <thirdy> get apt
[03:42] <thirdy> haha
[03:42] <MiMiC> Daverocks: I'm not certain, but it's definitely not raid
[03:42] <{DB}HobbitJa> hmm it doesnt seem to work
[03:43] <psycho> vlc plays it all for me
[03:43] <MiMiC> Daverocks: I had problems resizing hdd using Acronis, but I was able to use PartitionMagic to create partitions
[03:43] <kore2> Felarin: i get an inet addr but its the wrong one
[03:43] <kore2> Felarin: its not getting my inet addr correctly
[03:43] <sipior> mh_le: actually, looks like zlib1g
[03:43] <Felarin> kore2 : manually specify instead of DHCP
[03:43] <{DB}HobbitJa> says its not a directory
[03:43] <verahsa> I'm having a couple of minor problems that I'm not quite sure how to fix, mostly related to grub, the console
[03:43] <Daverocks> MiMiC: what kind of partitioning layout do you have?
[03:43] <mh_le> sipior: ah thanks
[03:43] <ferronica> Felarin: what i do
[03:43] <MiMiC> Daverocks: sorry, I am not certain. How can i find out
[03:43] <sipior> {DB}HobbitJa: it isn't, it's the hashed password file
[03:43] <thirdy> I'm starting to like the console command
[03:44] <Daverocks> MiMiC: um, do you remember what it looked like from partitionmagic?
[03:44] <ferronica> Felarin: If i do change here it will effect my system time
[03:44] <verahsa>  console initiation and proper drivers. Anyone able to answer a couple of questions?
[03:44] <thirdy> much easier
[03:44] <Daverocks> MiMiC: like, what partitions do you have?
[03:44] <kore2> Felarin: roaming mode should be always enabled?
[03:44] <Felarin> libxv-dev'
[03:44] <Felarin> libxv-dev
[03:44] <Felarin> that should be the one
[03:44] <MiMiC> Daverocks: I have a hidden partition RECOVERY, FAT32
[03:44] <Felarin> kore2 : well i always enable it
[03:44] <sipior> {DB}HobbitJa: you sure you want to play with that?
[03:44] <MiMiC> I have a XP tablet edition partition, called XP, NTFS
[03:44] <MiMiC> I have a data partition, NTFS
[03:44] <{DB}HobbitJa> apparently so
[03:44] <MiMiC> I have created a partition for ubuntu, EXT3
[03:45] <Felarin> kore2 : in fact, i'm on wireless now on Ubuntu
[03:45] <{DB}HobbitJa> gimme 2 secs
[03:45] <MiMiC> and I have a SWAP partiiton
[03:45] <kore2> Felarin: ok but the weird thing is that I have 3 connections there
[03:45] <Felarin> kore2 : and i use gigabit wired in the office
[03:45] <Daverocks> MiMiC: some of that must be on extended, you can't have 5 primary partitions
[03:45] <Felarin> 3 connections is right
[03:45] <kore2> Felarin: wireless, wired and modem
[03:45] <kore2> Felarin: oh, ok
[03:45] <Felarin> 1 loopback, 1 LAN and 1 wireless
[03:45] <MiMiC> SHARED is on extended, so is swap
[03:45] <Daverocks> MiMiC: SHARED being the NTFS data partition?
[03:45] <MiMiC> i am 99% sure that RECOVERY (HIDDEN), XP, and UBUNTU are primary partitions
[03:45] <kore2> Felarin: let me try to modify the wired connection
[03:46] <MiMiC> Daverocks: yes
[03:46] <Daverocks> MiMiC: so it's not that complicated o_O
[03:46] <Felarin> kore2 : okay, you should also check if the router assigning your DHCP address is functioning properly
[03:46] <Felarin> kore2 : also make sure that your LAN cable is fine
[03:46] <Felarin> kore2 : these things also prevent proper IP address obtaining
[03:46] <Daverocks> MiMiC: the partitioning layout, that is
[03:46] <Daverocks> i wonder why things don't like it
[03:47] <MiMiC> Daverocks: it is, since during ubuntu installation, its partitioner does not recognize ANY partition on my HDD
[03:47] <{DB}HobbitJa> remove the root password from /etc/shadow does that sound like i need to edit shadow?
[03:47] <Felarin> try to ping the DHCP server, if you cant, try changing the LAN cable, restart the DHCP service and try again.
[03:47] <kore2> Felarin: I have one laptop and another pc. on my pc is working fine but on my laptop it doesn't work
[03:47] <Daverocks> {DB}HobbitJa: you shouldn't need to edit /etc/shadow manually
[03:47] <kore2> Felarin: anyway I dont have a router
[03:47] <Felarin> try changing the cable
[03:47] <{DB}HobbitJa> its for my western digital mybook world NAS
[03:47] <Daverocks> MiMiC: maybe one of the partitioning progs messed it up
[03:47] <Felarin> and is this your first time having this problem?
[03:47] <forester> hi! what is a plaindump?
[03:48] <kore2> Felarin: i'm changing it when i want to try if it works and yes this is my first time
[03:48] <{DB}HobbitJa> ive connected it to my pc and need to unlock some stuff to enable services like ssh telnet ftp etc
[03:48] <sipior> {DB}HobbitJa: and there's no, uh, login?
[03:48] <kore2> Felarin: i just bought this laptop
[03:48] <MiMiC> Daverocks: do u recommend I re-partition it using ubuntu's partiitoner or another 3rd party?
[03:48] <{DB}HobbitJa> yeah its web based but you cant do anything
[03:48] <Felarin> kore2 : network should not be a problem, it works out of the box with Ubuntu by right. What LAN card does the laptop have?
[03:48] <sipior> {DB}HobbitJa: no default password?
[03:48] <MrEgg965> Thanks for your advices. I installed totem-gstreamer, and now I can play mpeg :) Divx (avi) still not working, though. What am I missing ? tx
[03:48] <Felarin> do you know the make and model?
[03:48] <{DB}HobbitJa> o default password yeah possibly
[03:48] <mtha> is there a way to limit the choices of a cpu frequency scaling daemon?
[03:49] <Daverocks> MiMiC: uh, you said ubuntu's partitioner couldn't read it?
[03:49] <sipior> {DB}HobbitJa: manual should say something about that :)
[03:49] <Felarin> MiMiC : gparted is good.
[03:49] <kore2> Felarin: i forgot, how can I check?
[03:49] <thirdy> Nice, is that right? Heroes III in linux?
[03:49] <{DB}HobbitJa> http://websupport.wdc.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5535&whichpage=1
[03:49] <Felarin> hmm.. the easiest way would be to check your catalogue? the brochure which they gave you when you bought the laptop?
[03:49] <Daverocks> gparted seems to always work for me, but it can't be perfect
[03:49] <MiMiC> Daverocks: that's correct. the ubuntu partitioner cannot see any partitions. Although I was able to mount all my drives using the live CD
[03:49] <{DB}HobbitJa> thats where i was told about it
[03:49] <sipior> thirdy: yup, bit old, but i get a kick out of it at times
[03:49] <mh_le> is there a package for GNU MP 2?
[03:49] <MiMiC> which means that it can detect them all...
[03:49] <kore2> Felarin: hold on a second
[03:50] <Daverocks> MiMiC: hm, try using gparted on the live CD
[03:50] <Daverocks> MiMiC: unmounting all the partitions before you do so of course :P
[03:50] <Felarin> MiMiC : are you on a restricted account?
[03:50] <Felarin> MiMiC : try sudo fdisk -l in the command line
[03:50] <thirdy> What's the most popular game for linux?
[03:50] <Felarin> thirdy : WoW on Cedega
[03:50] <MiMiC> Felarin: what do u mean restricted / fdisk -l showed nothing
[03:50] <MiMiC> Daverocks: gparted showed an unallocated HDD
[03:51] <Felarin> thirdy : Quake4\Enemy Territory if native
[03:51] <aabrahao> how can I configure vhosts in apache?
[03:51] <Felarin> MiMiC : Did you try sudo in front
[03:51] <MiMiC> of courese
[03:51] <Felarin> sudo fdisk -l
[03:51] <Felarin> it shows nothing?
[03:51] <Felarin> that's weird
[03:51] <MiMiC> i see an error
[03:51] <MiMiC> in terminal
[03:51] <Felarin> what error?
[03:51] <Daverocks> best graphics does not equal most fun
[03:51] <Felarin> can you post it here?
[03:51] <MiMiC> Can't have overlapping partitions.
[03:51] <kore2> Felarin: LAN (802.11B/G) but i'm not sure this is what you are looking for
[03:51] <thirdy> I have 1.1duron, 256ram, 64mbVram
[03:51] <Felarin> when you type sudo fdisk -l, you get this error?
[03:51] <sparr> provided a multitouch input device, are there any desktop or pda linux softwares that could utilize the extra input information?
[03:51] <MiMiC> Felarin: no it's when I opened gparted
[03:52] <Daverocks> thirdy: ok, don't try all the 3D games then, lol
[03:52] <klav> Hi - Looking to extract a file to /usr/share but says i don't have permission. I'm usingthe GUI to extract. how can I put it through as root?
[03:52] <Felarin> kore2 : that's the wireless
[03:52] <mangojambo> Felarin: I cant unmounting ... I mean ... I did right click in the SDcard icon on my desktop and it was unmounted.. but the sdcard light in the reader still on!!
[03:52] <Felarin> MiMic : no error or anything when you use fdisk -l?
[03:52] <MiMiC> Felarin: i tried sudo fdisk -l again, and this time it showed me all my partitions
[03:52] <RabidWeezle> there we go, remember kids, xchat gnome isn't half as good as just good ole xchat
[03:52] <AMAG> Hey, folks, I've got a FAT32-formatted firewire disk hooked up to my ubuntu machine, and even though there is ~300G of data on it, `df` shows 32KB used.  The used space value is increasing as I copy data onto it, though.  Is this normal or might it be overwriting my existing data? :)
[03:52] <Felarin> mango : you can remove it.
[03:52] <Felarin> MiMiC : cool, we're somewhere now. What exactly do you need?
[03:52] <Felarin> damn i need to smoke
[03:52] <thirdy> yeah
[03:53] <RabidWeezle> then smoke
[03:53] <Felarin> yeah
[03:53] <kore2> Felarin: I dont have nothing on my box, is there another way to check?
[03:53] <Felarin> but i wanna help these guys before i o
[03:53] <Felarin> go
[03:53] <thirdy> how bout online multiplayer games?
[03:53] <MiMiC> Felarin: I would prefer to keep my partitions and install everything onto them. but I need to fix that error "can't have overlapping partitions."
[03:53] <Felarin> kore2 : is your 802.11 B/G Intel?
[03:53] <mangojambo> Felarin: there is no problem to "broke" ( "burn") my card ?
[03:53] <kore2> Felarin: yes
[03:53] <Felarin> MiMiC : try purging gparted and reinstalling it.
[03:53] <sparr> provided a multitouch input device, are there any desktop or pda linux softwares that could utilize the extra input information?
[03:53] <sparr> sorry for the repeat
[03:53] <Felarin> MiMiC : then try relaunching it.
[03:54] <Felarin> if fdisk -l is fine, something is wrong with gparted
[03:54] <Felarin> try sudo df -ah
[03:54] <verahsa> is there a way to get the splash screen to center at a resolution other than 640x480?
[03:54] <Felarin> can you see decent output?
[03:54] <sipior> AMAG: weird, but i doubt it's overwriting. still good idea to test first. any unusual mount options?
[03:54] <Daverocks> thirdy: i like soldat (with wine) and ut2004 on linux for online multiplayer, but that might be too stressful on your hardware... armagetron advanced is a great online mutiplayer game as well
[03:54] <Felarin> soldat is good stuff
[03:54] <Felarin> lol
[03:54] <Daverocks> Felarin: love it :D
[03:54] <Felarin> yeah but i'm really bad @ it
[03:54] <Felarin> i only just play WoW these days
[03:54] <Felarin> lol
[03:54] <kore2> Felarin: well, do you have any ideas?
[03:54] <MiMiC> Felarin: i tried that command, and it gave some output. What should i look for
[03:55] <kore2> Felarin: i really need this internet connection...
[03:55] <Daverocks> that's the problem with WoW, people _only_ play WoW :P
[03:55] <Omnius> how to you delete a directory?
[03:55] <Felarin> MiMic : i'm just trying to ascertain if you really have a problem. It seems that Linux can read all your partitions and only gparted has an issue. You can purge gparted and reinstall it to try.
[03:55] <Daverocks> kore2: ipw2200? ipw2915?
[03:55] <sipior> Omnius: rmdir, if it's empty
[03:55] <verahsa> Daverocks: That's not entirely true. There's a broad range of WoW gamers that play -more- than just WoW. :p
[03:55] <Felarin> kore2 : i think you should manually specify your IP\subnet
[03:55] <Daverocks> verahsa: ok ok
[03:55] <Felarin> once you manually specify
[03:55] <Daverocks> :P
[03:56] <MiMiC> Felarin: i'm using the live cd, so i do not understand what you mean by purge.
[03:56] <Felarin> restart your network /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:56] <Omnius> ah yep its not empty
[03:56] <Felarin> MiMiC : use fdisk /dev/whicheveryoursis - sda or hda and partition it with fdisk via the CLI
[03:56] <Felarin> and then proceed to install
[03:56] <Daverocks> kore2: as root, "lsmod | grep ipw"
[03:56] <verahsa> Daverocks: I play WoW, and it's probably what I play the -most-, but I also hit up Vanguard, EQ2, the godforsaken Planetside, and a few other non-mmorpgs when I get the urge. <grin>
[03:56] <Felarin> when it asks you to partition again, choose manual and choose next, should work
[03:56] <sipior> Omnius: then rm -r <directory>. but be careful with that...
[03:56] <MiMiC> Felarin: ah okay thank you, i shall try that
[03:57] <Omnius> is there a linux version of del *.*?
[03:57] <Daverocks> Omnius: that'd be rm
[03:57] <Felarin> Omnius : sudo rm -rf = ULTIMATE
[03:57] <Omnius> ok
[03:57] <sipior> Omnius: yes, rm -r *
[03:57] <Felarin> nothing beats that
[03:57] <exippy> server irc.recycled-irc.net
[03:57] <Felarin> use the -rf switch
[03:57] <Felarin> removes forcefully
[03:57] <kore2> Daverocks: i dont get nothing
[03:57] <verahsa> Omnius: sipior's suggestion of rm -rf <dir> is appropriate... but it's dangerous if you type the wrong directory or hit enter early.
[03:57] <sipior> with vengeance!
[03:57] <Felarin> and recursive too
[03:57] <p6> que lo que
[03:57] <Daverocks> -rf is more good for scripts... i prefer just using -r when at a shell
[03:58] <Omnius> ok wish me luck
[03:58] <sipior> verahsa: well, glad you think so!
[03:58] <Daverocks> kore2: there's your problem ;)
[03:58] <Daverocks> kore2: do you know exactly which intel wireless card you have?
[03:58] <Daverocks> kore2: oh wait, were you trying to get internet through wired?
[03:58] <Felarin> i think he's trying to use wired Dave
[03:58] <verahsa> sipior: was just thinking "You know... be careful doesn't quite cover the destructive nature of that command." hehehe
[03:58] <Felarin> and he dosen't know what model of wired card he has
[03:58] <kore2> Daverocks: yes, exactly
[03:58] <MiMiC> Omnius: try "rm -r *"
[03:58] <kore2> Daverocks: with wired
[03:58] <Felarin> kore2 : set your connection manually
[03:58] <sipior> verahsa: true enough :)
[03:58] <Felarin> specify IP and netmask
[03:58] <Daverocks> kore2: lspci, is it there?
[03:59] <Felarin> and then restart networking the way i told you to try
[03:59] <kore2> Daverocks: i get something
[03:59] <Daverocks> kore2: can you see your ethernet card in there?
[03:59] <Felarin> kore2 : you should have a lot there
[03:59] <Felarin> kore2 : try to find your intel wired card
[03:59] <Felarin> or some wired card
[04:00] <Felarin> could be broadcom or some other brand like realtek
[04:00] <babo> is there an app out there to put together animated gifs ?
[04:00] <Felarin> Daverocks : i figure, if he can't set manually, his card might be an unsupported one
[04:00] <Daverocks> babo: gifsicle?
[04:00] <Felarin> Daverocks : i've seen it once before, only once though, some funny brand card
[04:00] <joseph> babo... gimp has basic gif editing
[04:00] <ahmed> guys wat is the best torrents downloading program ?
[04:00] <kore2> Felarin: i have a lot with ATI Technologies but I've got something with Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL...
[04:00] <CheshireViking> !torrent
[04:00] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:00] <Felarin> ahh
[04:01] <babo> joseph: yes, but no animation properties ...
[04:01] <Felarin> kore2 : the only other time i saw the problem, was with a realtek funny make card
[04:01] <Felarin> kore2 : have you tried manually setting your IP and netmask?
[04:01] <joseph> install gap
[04:01] <Felarin> kore2 : once you do, restart your laptop
[04:01] <Felarin> and tell me if it works
[04:01] <Daverocks> babo: http://www.lcdf.org/gifsicle/
[04:01] <Felarin> if not, you might need to try going wireless
[04:01] <ahmed> guys wat is the best torrents downloading program ?
[04:01] <babo> Daverocks: k thnaks
[04:01] <kore2> Felarin: I wrote my ip address and subnet but in gateway address I dont know what to type there
[04:02] <Daverocks> !torrent | ahmed
[04:02] <ubotu> ahmed: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt), rTorrent (C++) -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[04:02] <Felarin> gateway : same as your ISP's gateway
[04:02] <Daverocks> maybe your local LAN gateway would be better?
[04:02] <joseph> babo: gap might help
[04:02] <Felarin> oh btw kore2
[04:02] <joseph> that's all i've used
[04:02] <joseph> sry
[04:02] <Felarin> how do you check if your connection is not working?
[04:02] <Felarin> do you go to like www.google.com?
[04:03] <kore2> Daverocks: and what is that?
[04:03] <joseph> try pinging first
[04:03] <joseph> felarin
[04:03] <kore2> Felarin: yes
[04:03] <Felarin> try going to an IP address only
[04:03] <Felarin> don't go to a hostname
[04:03] <joseph> ping your dns...
[04:03] <joseph> then out
[04:03] <Felarin>  ping 66.249.89.99
[04:03] <Daverocks> kore2: there should be an IP on your LAN which acts as the gateway... like, do you have a router?
[04:03] <kore2> Felarin: i will try next time but now I need this Gateway address and I really don't know...
[04:03] <joseph> route
[04:03] <kore2> Daverocks: i don't have a router
[04:03] <Felarin> Daverocks : he don't have
[04:03] <joseph> from the terminal
[04:03] <joseph> will show you on the second line
[04:04] <Felarin> he might just have a DNS problem joseph
[04:04] <Daverocks> kore2: ah yeah k, then your ISP's gateway
[04:04] <Felarin> brb all
[04:04] <rmd_> if i want to install a new theme on ubuntu 7.04, where do i look on gnome-look.org?
[04:04] <kore2> Daverocks: i don't know what is it...
[04:04] <Felarin> yeah kore2 : you can actually check with your ISP for their gateway address
[04:04] <rmd_> metacity?
[04:04] <Felarin> kore2 : they should know it by heart
[04:04] <Felarin> rmd : yes metacity, default theme for GNOME
[04:05] <Felarin> rmd : unless you have beryl, then look for emerald themes if you aren't pushing beryl with Metacity
[04:05] <kore2> Felarin: should I call my provider to ask him for my gateway address?
[04:05] <rmd_> Felarin, thanks loads
[04:05] <Felarin> yeah you can do that kore2
[04:05] <Felarin> rmd : you're welcome
[04:05] <kore2> Felarin: ok, i will now, just wait a minute please
[04:05] <Felarin> kore2 : before you do, can you set your wired connection back to DHCP
[04:05] <Felarin> and then ping 66.249.89.99
[04:05] <Felarin> launch the terminal
[04:05] <Felarin> and type
[04:05] <Felarin> ping 66.249.89.99
[04:06] <Felarin> once you set back to DHCP
[04:06] <lynxz> I have a problem with my DVD-drive. When I trie to copy from it my whole system slows down even if I'm not copying to my system harddrive. Playing DVD's in it produces slow slideshow.
[04:06] <Felarin> do this in the terminal
[04:06] <Felarin> /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:06] <Felarin> and then
[04:06] <Felarin> ping 66.249.89.99
[04:06] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: check that DMA is enabled (run "sudo hdparm /dev/dvd"
[04:06] <SlimeyPete> )
[04:07] <MJ_> hi sutharsan
[04:07] <kore2> Felarin: ok
[04:07] <Felarin> oh
[04:07] <Felarin> put a sudo in front of all the commands
[04:07] <Felarin> cept ping
[04:07] <Felarin> haha
[04:07] <Felarin> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:07] <Felarin> ping 66.249.89.99
[04:07] <Felarin> after you set your connection back to DHCP
[04:08] <kore2> Felarin: ok, i got it
[04:08] <Felarin> cool
[04:08] <kore2> Felarin: i need to disconnect now..
[04:08] <smo> hi
[04:08] <Felarin> brb kore2 : i will check with you once i get back
[04:08] <Felarin> it's cool
[04:08] <kore2> ok
[04:08] <smo> if i have a special kernel installed but no headers availables can i create it ???
[04:09] <sipior> smo: create what?
[04:09] <alexxxprog> hi is anyone who can help me?
[04:09] <alexxxprog> I have to do a bash script
[04:09] <erUSUL> !anyone
[04:09] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:09] <smo> the headers sipior
[04:09] <alexxxprog> please who want to help me come with me in private
[04:09] <smo> im on my dedicated now and thy build their own kernel but no headers available...;
[04:10] <erUSUL> !pm | alexxxprog
[04:10] <ubotu> alexxxprog: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[04:10] <smo> need it to compile
[04:10] <sipior> smo: generally, you'll want to use the headers that match your C compiler
[04:10] <lynxz> SlimeyPete:  It wasn't but the playback is still jerky.
[04:10] <wols> smo: either ask the place you got the kernel form for the headers, or get a new kernel where headers are available. no othe way
[04:10] <alexxxprog> ok
[04:10] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: DMA isn't enabled? It should be
[04:10] <smo> humm ok
[04:10] <alexxxprog> Create a bash procedure createdata that creates collections (directories) that that will have to contain a random number, comprised between 300 and 600, of binary files of dimension comprised between 10 Kbytes and 30 kbytes.
[04:10] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: without DMA enabled, your drive will be very slow
[04:10] <wols> alexxxprog: nice homework
[04:10] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: to enable it, do a "sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/dvd"
[04:10] <alexxxprog> yes
[04:10] <lynxz> SlimeyPete: I just enabled it but it didn't do much.
[04:11] <erUSUL> smo: if you compiled the kernl yourself the headers are in the linux source dir afaik
[04:11] <MiMiC> Daverocks/Felarin: thank you guys for your help. I wiped out my extended partitions and linux partitions using PartitionMagic. Now ubuntu recognizes my other partitions
[04:11] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: oh right
[04:11] <Felarin> RabidWeezle : try some nice packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[04:11] <Daverocks> MiMiC: cool
[04:11] <RabidWeezle> ?
[04:11] <smo> no not compiled it myself
[04:11] <alexxxprog> who can help me?
[04:11] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: not sure what's wrong, then, sorry :/
[04:11] <Felarin> MiMiC : oh pqmagic... only thing is, i think linux fdisk is way faster
[04:11] <cdavis> Nautilus will not start completely, at least I cannot see all of my desktop icons, and I have no idea where to start to look.
[04:11] <Felarin> MiMiC : but whatever works is good too.
[04:11] <lynxz> SlimeyPete: Looks like it reset it self though
[04:12] <MiMiC> Felarin: I simply wiped the partitions out. I'm using ubuntu installer to create my new partitions
[04:12] <sipior> alexxxprog: help do your homework? i'm guessing no one, to first order.
[04:12] <smo> noting in /usr/src
[04:12] <smo> damn
[04:12] <SlimeyPete> lynxz: oh. That might indicate that the Ubuntu kernel (or just Linux kernels in general) do not support your motherboard properly
[04:12] <Felarin> MiMiC : good, gparted is one of the best partition UI managers ever
[04:12] <sigp239> what's the best p2p music download app?
[04:12] <MiMiC> Felarin: thx. I will be using that for sure. Btw, I have 2 gigs RAM, should I set 2gigs or 4 gigs for SWAP?
[04:12] <Felarin> use limewire for linux
[04:12] <smo> 2.6.20.6dedibox-r7-beta1  in /lib/modules so wtf
[04:13] <rmd_> how do i install these themes?  if i go to theme/install theme and choose the .gz or .bz2 file it doesn't load colors or anything
[04:13] <Felarin> 4 gig
[04:13] <Khrajin|sleep> sigp239: your local music store
[04:13] <MiMiC> k thx
[04:13] <Felarin> anything above 1 GB of RAM, double it instead of 1.5 for SWAP
[04:13] <lynxz> SlimeyPete: It used to work fine while I ran Gentoo
[04:13] <cdavis> if i hover over the desktop I get the little wait clock
[04:13] <Felarin> 2 GB = 4 GB swap
[04:13] <MiMiC> okay
[04:13] <ircleuser> hello
[04:13] <ircleuser> can anyone help me?
[04:13] <Khrajin|sleep> !ask
[04:13] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:13] <Felarin> rmd_ : very easy to install, no need to unzip or decompress em
[04:14] <rmd_> Felarin, but it isn't installing them correctly
[04:14] <Felarin> rmd : just go to System -- Preferences -- Themes and click on install themes
[04:14] <kore2> Felarin: i can ping when i set to dhcp and after I restart the networking i get: there is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.eth0.ping with pid 16683, killed old client process, removed pid file
[04:14] <RabidWeezle> heh, they got pearpc for linux
[04:14] <Felarin> kore2 : you can ping?
[04:14] <Felarin> launch your browser
[04:14] <Felarin> and type 66.249.89.99 in the address bar
[04:14] <rmd_> Felarin, it's not working correctly.  it won't change the colors of the windows.  just the decorations.
[04:15] <kore2> Felarin: i tried but it doesnt work
[04:15] <Felarin> rmd : depends on the version of the theme, some of the themes are outdated
[04:15] <CapriCorn^80> wats gdm and kdm ?
[04:15] <Felarin> you can ping
[04:15] <Felarin> but you can't go to the address?
[04:15] <Felarin> hmm..
[04:15] <Felarin> did you try 66.249.89.99 in the address bar of your browser?/
[04:15] <Felarin> gdm is the process name for gnome
[04:15] <Khrajin|sleep> CapriCorn^80: Gnome Desktop Manager and KDE Desktop Manager, respectively
[04:15] <Felarin> and kdm is the process name for kde
[04:15] <kore2> Felarin: yes...
[04:15] <cdavis> it seems I have a link or something that the nautilus doesn't like to deal with on my desktop because if I move all items from the /Desktop nautilus works as normal again
[04:15] <wols> CapriCorn^80: display managers
[04:16] <Felarin> can you ping www.google.com now?
[04:16] <Khrajin|sleep> CapriCorn^80: The two most common gui's for linux
[04:16] <Gabrie1> hi ^^
[04:16] <Felarin> if you can ping, nothing is wrong with your hardware
[04:16] <kore2> Felarin: now I have my cable into my pc, I have to do the change to ping..
[04:16] <CapriCorn^80> ok i have get kde using apt-get and after that i configured it with kdm i hope my sytem will not crash
[04:16] <MiMiC> Felarin: I am having trouble allocating Partitions. It seems that I cannot create 4 primary partitions and 1 extended.
[04:16] <kore2> Felarin: then I have to configure myself my eth0, right?
[04:16] <Felarin> you CANT of course
[04:17] <CapriCorn^80> coz after doing that its unpacking the softwares and i can one line Database not available
[04:17] <MiMiC> Felarin: i thought 4 primary was acceptable...
[04:17] <kore2> Felarin: and I need that Gateway address... should I call my provider to get it?
[04:17] <Gabrie1> people... i'm trying to connect using winmodem but gnome cant recognize my modem driver automaticaly... what should i do?
[04:17] <Felarin> mimic : i tried that before, i tried 3 primary and 1 extended and it works
[04:17] <grevier> jajaja
[04:17] <lasking> who know what happened at 1989.6.4 beijing china?
[04:18] <Felarin> kore2 : yeah you should, then set manual with the gateway address and try
[04:18] <kore2> Felarin: ok..
[04:18] <MiMiC> Felarin: okay thx I will do that instead (wipe my RECOVERY partition, no need :P)
[04:18] <kore2> Felarin: so there is no other way to get Gateway address, right?
[04:18] <pawitp> Mimic: An extended partition is "a kind of" primary partition
[04:18] <omnius> man took on tank
[04:18] <CapriCorn^80> is there any site which can scan n detect wireless drivers automatically for ubuntu edgy ?
[04:19] <Felarin> kore2 : yeah, your ISP should be the one to get it from, a router could possibly also get it automatically. By right, DHCP shouild get it automatically too
[04:19] <Felarin> Capricorn : Install network-manager-gnome
[04:19] <dr_willis> CapriCorn^80,  id be impressed at such a site.
[04:19] <Felarin> if you can use WPA with your WPA card, your drivers are fine
[04:19] <Felarin> if you can only use WEP
[04:19] <kore2> Felarin: ok, let me see
[04:20] <Felarin>  you might need to check if ndiswrapper can be used with your model
[04:20] <omnius> CapriCorn: i use Wicd
[04:20] <Khrajin|sleep> Try using KNetworkManager
[04:20] <Felarin> kore2 : i can guarantee you that it's not your hardware now, lol, it's all configuration, DHCP is being screwed, did you try restarting as well?
[04:20] <kore2> Felarin: yeah, I tried
[04:21] <Felarin> alright, just use manual from now on
[04:21] <Felarin> get the gateway address
[04:21] <omnius> is there a way to bridge NIC's?
[04:21] <MiMiC> Felarin: can SWAP be on a extended partition?
[04:21] <sipior> omnius: yep, check out brctl
[04:21] <omnius> MiMiC: Mine is
[04:21] <Felarin> MiMiC : never tried, maybe someone else knows.
[04:21] <Felarin> i don't think gparted allows you to choose
[04:21] <MiMiC> omnius: hmm okay thanks i'll try that setup then
[04:21] <Khrajin> MiMiC: I thougth a SWAP partition was it's own extension al together....
[04:22] <Felarin> yep khrajin
[04:22] <Felarin> i believe khrajin is right
[04:22] <Felarin> a SWAP partition is on it's own
[04:22] <MiMiC> Felarin: I can use Acronis Disk Director to make it happen
[04:22] <Felarin> Linux itself can be run on a logical part
[04:22] <Khrajin> It is its own system because it's like temporary disk space.
[04:22] <Felarin> using that theory, if you can make it happen
[04:22] <Felarin> it should work
[04:22] <Khrajin> extra ram
[04:22] <MiMiC> oh
[04:22] <Felarin> but i have no idea how to make it happen
[04:22] <Felarin> yeah
[04:22] <Gabrie1> anyone can help me with dialup conection?
[04:22] <jonathan__> hello everbody
[04:22] <Felarin> it's like your PAGE file in Windows
[04:23] <Felarin> that's what your SWAP drive is
[04:23] <MiMiC> yes that I know...
[04:23] <Felarin> cept in Windows, page file = 1.5 x your actual physical RAM
[04:23] <jonathan__> anyone can help me to find the original directory of software?
[04:23] <MiMiC> hmm i'll try installing ubuntu on logical partiiton then... hopefully it will boot
[04:23] <jonathan__> I looking for my wine
[04:23] <Felarin> jonathan : what software?
[04:23] <Felarin> try this command
[04:23] <Felarin> whereis wine
[04:23] <Felarin> in the terminal
[04:23] <Khrajin> Felarin: But Swap actually works right vs taking up your writable hdd space lolol
[04:23] <jonathan__> I'm already installed those wine
[04:23] <Felarin> ooh wine?
[04:23] <jonathan__> and working well
[04:23] <Felarin> go to your /home/name directory
[04:23] <Felarin> it should be in a folder named .wine
[04:23] <jonathan__> in the first time
[04:24] <Felarin> cd .wine
[04:24] <Bitmess> sipior,  did I miss something?
[04:24] <Khrajin> home ./.wine/
[04:24] <Felarin> yep
[04:24] <jonathan__> and located in my accesoris
[04:24] <Felarin> /home/youraccountname/.wine
[04:24] <sipior> Bitmess: sorry, about what?
[04:24] <MiMiC> Felarin: you can change the pagefile size under windows
[04:24] <MiMiC> :P
[04:24] <Felarin> yes i know
[04:24] <Felarin> but the proper CALCULATION
[04:24] <Bitmess> sipior,  about knoppix sources.list. :)
[04:24] <ircleuser> hello
[04:24] <Felarin> = 1.5 x Physical RAM
[04:24] <jonathan__> but I don't know where is those original files on
[04:24] <Felarin> and i believe you can resize SWAP partitions.
[04:24] <Khrajin> MiMiC: your pagefile takes up actual disk space vs swap is a seperate partition
[04:25] <Felarin> yep
[04:25] <johnschroeder> how is everyone?
[04:25] <Felarin> there are differences between swap and pagefile
[04:25] <sipior> Bitmess: i couldn't tell you, i don't know much about it myself
[04:25] <pawitp> Felarin: There is never a proper calculation, but rather reasonable calculation
[04:25] <MiMiC> yup
[04:25] <johnschroeder> i have a quick question about ubunto server version 7
[04:25] <Felarin> SWAP = more efficient
[04:25] <jonathan__> anybody can help me to find winehq application?
[04:25] <Felarin> pawitp : yep
[04:25] <Khrajin> MiMiC: go to your regular c:\ and look for pagefile.sys or something like that, it will bel ike 3 gb (or whatever you set it to)
[04:25] <johnschroeder> i installed it and there is no GUI
[04:25] <MiMiC> 512MB :P
[04:25] <Bitmess> sipior,  thanks
[04:25] <Khrajin> !wine
[04:25] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:25] <digitalspaghetti> i'm ordering a new PC - my option is ATi or nVidia?
[04:25] <jonathan__> yes
[04:25] <Felarin> john : i believe it's all CLI
[04:25] <Khrajin> DigitallyStoned: Gaming?
[04:25] <MiMiC> digital: what do u wanna do? gaming?
[04:25] <pawitp> You can have a swap file but it'll be lower performance than a swap partition
[04:25] <whar> is there any site that can detect and install driver of my wireless card ?
[04:25] <thirdy> What's the forumw.org for Linux?
[04:25] <Gabrie1> plz.. someone help me with dialup conection
[04:25] <jonathan__> and I'm already installed wine
[04:26] <digitalspaghetti> nahh, it's for work
[04:26] <Felarin> john : you'd have to manually install a UI if  you want one with the server.
[04:26] <jonathan__> and already installed vlc
[04:26] <digitalspaghetti> i was stability
[04:26] <jonathan__> but
[04:26] <digitalspaghetti> i'll be doing a lot with video
[04:26] <johnschroeder> i see
[04:26] <Khrajin> DigitallyStoned: ATI is harder to get drivers for because they are persnickety about the data and nVidia is easy to get them
[04:26] <jonathan__> now the shortcut
[04:26] <MiMiC> digital: nvidia has great support on ubuntu. ati has only open-sourced drivers. they might or might not work that well
[04:26] <scarter> read quite a bit... many options assume you are adding additional packages to create a custom cd and not replacing existing old packages with their security/version update debs...  i was thinking of something like a slipstreaming process to create an updated install cd of the same version. any website suggestions?
[04:26] <jonathan__> is gone
[04:26] <Khrajin> DigitallyStoned: Otherwise, person preference
[04:26] <Pici> !enter | jonathan__
[04:26] <ubotu> jonathan__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:26] <thirdy> Or any site wer I can download commercial games for linux?
[04:26] <johnschroeder> how hard is that? lol
[04:26] <johnschroeder> i am a linux newbie
[04:26] <jonathan__> ok
[04:26] <digitalspaghetti> so go for the nVidia if i want stability then
[04:27] <Khrajin> digitalspaghetti: Not stability, ease of installation
[04:27] <MiMiC> khrajin: also stability :D
[04:27] <pawitp> digitalspaghetti:Go for nVidia if you want linux, just that
[04:27] <Khrajin> DigitallyStoned: And try not to get something thats super brand new.
[04:27] <sipior> johnschroeder: "sudo aptitude install gnome" should do it
[04:27] <Khrajin> MiMiC: I'm running an ati card and its
[04:27] <jonathan__> my wine shortcut are gone and I can't find where those file originally installed
[04:27] <digitalspaghetti> i'll have a dual boot, so ok, nvidia it is then :)
[04:27] <Khrajin> out*
[04:27] <MiMiC> khrajin: were u able to run beryl/compiz?
[04:28] <inflex> hi, I need to install a commercial rpm package in Ubuntu - how do I install rpm's in Ubuntu?
[04:28] <whar> is there any site that can detect and install driver of my wireless card ?
[04:28] <Khrajin> MiMiC: Havn't tried,l but I can run WOW
[04:28] <Pici> jonathan__: If you install a windows app with wine it gets installed to ~/.wine/drive_c/
[04:28] <sipior> johnschroeder:  better would be "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" should do it
[04:28] <dr_willis> !rpm
[04:28] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[04:28] <inflex> (so long as the files are installed, it's okay - I can make the startup bits
[04:28] <Felarin> johnschroeder : try CentOS if you need a server with UI, or if you just need linux with UI, grab Ubuntu Desktop, should help you since you dont know how to install X and a dm
[04:28] <jonathan__> ok
[04:28] <jonathan__> now I want to find files called: 'winefile'
[04:28] <Felarin> and CentOS uses RPM
[04:28] <MiMiC> khrajin: nice! and ur using open-sourced drivers?
[04:28] <johnschroeder> really
[04:29] <johnschroeder> so that is all i got to type interesting
[04:29] <pawitp> jonathan__: isn't winefile a file manager for wine
[04:29] <Khrajin> MiMiC: yeah
[04:29] <johnschroeder> i will try that
[04:29] <Felarin> yeah
[04:29] <Khrajin> MiMiC: FGLRX
[04:29] <Felarin> you can also apt-get
[04:29] <thirdy> Do you use anti-virus in linux?
[04:29] <Felarin> but you need a net connection on your ubuntu box
[04:29] <jonathan__> I want to make a new shortcut for winefile
[04:29] <Khrajin> Can anyone see this if this site is up please? http://70.191.82.58/
[04:29] <Felarin> yeah you can, but it's pointless thirdy
[04:29] <Pici> jonathan__: winefile should be in your path, you shouldnt have to find what directory its in.  But if you really want to know, type `whereis winefile`
[04:30] <thirdy> why?
[04:30] <Felarin> for new users, i suggest AVGfree for linux, they have a deb package on their site
[04:30] <thirdy> I'm new to linux
[04:30] <wols> thirdy: pretty much no one does except to scan for windows viruses.e.g. when you run a mailserver
[04:30] <iDN> Hi, I have another problem. I have downloaded StarDict, converted my Babylon dictionaries to its format using convdict, put them in the dic folder of StarDict.Everything work fine but the encoding of the language does not allow me to see the translation. Any help?
[04:30] <Felarin> cause Linux dosent need an anti-virus
[04:30] <jonathan__> oh...
[04:30] <Toma-> Khrajin: nope
[04:30] <jonathan__> I'll try
[04:30] <johnschroeder> it is unfamiliar with the command apitude
[04:30] <wols> thirdy: you don't need it. neither do you need a firewall
[04:30] <johnschroeder> ?????
[04:30] <Khrajin> Any suggestions why apache ha it up last night and its down today?
[04:30] <Felarin> there has not been one single successful linux virus to date. You might wanna get rkhunter to check for rootkits though
[04:30] <Toma-> Khrajin: i can ping it
[04:30] <sipior> johnschroeder: try apt-get, instead then
[04:30] <thirdy> ok
[04:30] <wols> Felarin: there have been succuessful ones
[04:30] <Toma-> Khrajin: did you restart?
[04:30] <thirdy> then site adsivor is enough
[04:30] <Khrajin> Toma-: No, should I?
[04:31] <verahsa> thirdy: the reason it's pointless is because the people writing virii generally don't write them for linux, and windows binaries (.exe files, etc) won't run natively on linux. add on top of that that linux is fairly secure on its own out of the box
[04:31] <Toma-> Khrajin: nope
[04:31] <jonathan__> ok
[04:31] <johnschroeder> i tried that still no luck
[04:31] <pawitp> wols: You should still use iptables
[04:31] <Felarin> tthere can't p;ossibly be because of most linux versions using restricted accounts
[04:31] <Felarin> how can they then spread?
[04:31] <visham> hi folks
[04:31] <jonathan__> I find it
[04:31] <mh_le> how does one send an email from the command line?
[04:31] <Felarin> none have spread successfully
[04:31] <sipior> johnschroeder: could you show exactly what you typed?
[04:31] <wols> pawitp: wrong
[04:31] <visham> i need some help installing a usb modem on breezy
[04:31] <Felarin> because of the fact that linux users, mostly don'
[04:31] <Felarin> use root accounts
[04:31] <MrC_> anyone in here using ubuntustudio?
[04:32] <wols> pawitp: you either don't open a certain port when it's bad (e.g. mysql) or you open it. (e.g. apache http server). no need for a firewall. especially not for people new to linux
[04:32] <erUSUL> visham: adsl?
[04:32] <johnschroeder> sudo apitude install ubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <Felarin> keep in mind that viruses are meant to spread, rootkits are diff altogether.
[04:32] <iDN> Someone?
[04:32] <ahmed> how to set the default mp3 player to be amorak ?
[04:32] <Khrajin> Ontop of all that Windows users are generally all admin accounts so that is how it gets really bad
[04:32] <johnschroeder> sudo apt get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <Felarin> try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:32] <sipior> johnschroeder: aptitude is spelled wrong
[04:32] <Pici> mh_le: Take a look at the mail manpage.
[04:32] <johnschroeder> haha
[04:32] <jonathan__> thank you all for you help
[04:32] <clever> if i have a dualboot setup could i say put ubuntu into hibernation and boot into the other os?
[04:32] <johnschroeder> darn
[04:32] <Elko> How could I convert a mp4 movie file to avi?
[04:32] <Khrajin> Elko: VLC
[04:32] <ahmed> how to set the default mp3 player to be amorak ?
[04:32] <pawitp> Felarin: if linux users start running mail attachment(i.e. installer) which is a virus, they will spread (probably won't happen)
[04:32] <johnschroeder> ok
[04:32] <johnschroeder> it is now installing
[04:32] <Elko> Khrajin: That converts, next to playing it?
[04:32] <johnschroeder> but it looks like it is installing the desktop
[04:32] <Felarin> pwaitp : if it could happen, it would have happened years ago
[04:33] <Felarin> it's not like malicious users don't target linux boxes, they do
[04:33] <johnschroeder> what will that do for me? give me the gui? or desktop edition of ubuntu
[04:33] <Toma-> Khrajin: did your router/firewall get reset or anything like that over night?
[04:33] <Khrajin> Elko: Aye, Look around in the file tab
[04:33] <Felarin> but it's not easy to do as much dmg, as say.. on a Windows box.
[04:33] <visham> erUSUL, yes its a adsl modem
[04:33] <erUSUL> !adsl | visham
[04:33] <Felarin> because of the way accounts work in Linux.
[04:33] <pawitp> Felarin: They're targeting servers not newbies
[04:33] <Felarin> yep, but a lot of us run servers too
[04:33] <Pici> !offtopic
[04:33] <ubotu> visham: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:33] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:33] <Felarin> i am more afraid of rootkits to be honest
[04:33] <Felarin> get rootkit hunter
[04:33] <Tinned_Tuna> rootkits?! WHERE
[04:34] <johnschroeder> sipior?
[04:34] <Felarin> compile and install and type sudo rkhunter -c -sk
[04:34] <erUSUL> visham: in that page you wil find instruccions for dsl modems
[04:34] <sipior> johnschroeder: yes?
[04:34] <Felarin> checks your system for rootkits
[04:34] <johnschroeder> what will that do for me? give me the gui? or desktop edition of ubuntu
[04:34] <pawitp> rootkits!?
[04:34] <sipior> johnschroeder: yes to both
[04:34] <Felarin> john : give you the GUI
[04:34] <johnschroeder> k
[04:34] <Felarin> it changes server to desktop?
[04:34] <Felarin> i didn't know that
[04:34] <Pici> Felarin: yes.
[04:34] <hwilde> why doesn't mozilla firefox come with java plugin?   this manual install does not work!
[04:34] <Felarin> oh damn, that's lame
[04:35] <Felarin> what if i installed X and GNOME on my own?
[04:35] <Tinned_Tuna> hwilde: automatix2 :)
[04:35] <pawitp> Felarin: stop using closed source drivers
[04:35] <LjL> !automatix
[04:35] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:35] <Pici> !automatic | Tinned_Tuna
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatic - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <MiMiC> hwilde: www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:35] <Tinned_Tuna> !automatix | hwilde
[04:35] <Felarin> pawitp : =.=
[04:35] <ubotu> hwilde: please see above
[04:35] <Pici> LjL: do you have automatix on hilight?
[04:35] <Felarin> lol
[04:35] <rmd_> ok, i've installed a theme, but it isn't showing all the theme options or changing the colors on the windows.  any ideas?  ubuntu 7.04 fres install, trying ti install ATER theme
[04:36] <LjL> Pici, i don't disclose my highlights :)
[04:36] <hwilde> All of your ! links are not helpful.  I have downloaded the jre .bin from the java site and it will not install manually.  this should not be so difficult
[04:36] <visham> erUSUL, i checked that page already its about draper and it tells u how to set up a adsl modem using a network card
[04:36] <visham> i want to connect a adsl usb modem on breezy
[04:36] <MiMiC> hwilde: sudo synaptic, search for "jre", and install it there
[04:36] <Khrajin> Toma-: Highly likely. What would I have to do in that case?
[04:36] <Felarin> hwilde : grab the mozilla-java-plugin DEB package from packages.ubuntu.com
[04:36] <Felarin> it's a lot less troublesome
[04:37] <Toma-> Khrajin: open the ports to connect
[04:37] <hwilde> Felarin, yes now this is helpful
[04:37] <Felarin> yeah, that website is easy mode
[04:37] <Felarin> and it shows you ALL dependencies too
[04:37] <Felarin> so if you need to grab anything else, just do and put them all in one folder
[04:37] <Felarin> and go to term
[04:37] <Felarin> go to the folder
[04:37] <Felarin> and type sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[04:37] <LjL> Felarin: uhm, and i missing something?
[04:37] <Felarin> and bam, you have everything
[04:37] <dr_willis> hwilde,  the java wiki page - last i looked mentioned the exact package to install with the package manager to get the sun java. it wasent that hard.
[04:38] <Khrajin> Toma-: The router was power cycled, and the settings are still good to pass 80 thru
[04:38] <Toma-> Khrajin: id say give a restart of the httpd a start. not the wqhole computer
[04:38] <dr_willis> hwilde,  i havent needed to install the .bin in ages.
[04:38] <LjL> Felarin: the packages at packages.ubuntu.com are the packages available in the repositories, so why do it in such awkward way?
[04:38] <Toma-> Khrajin: ahh ok
[04:38] <whar> tell me some best tools for configuring wireless on ubuntu edgy ???
[04:38] <Khrajin> Toma-: How do I do that?
[04:38] <Felarin> cause sometimes, their apt sources list are so screwed up
[04:38] <Felarin> it's best to go that way
[04:38] <visham> hey adsl usb modem help needed
[04:38] <Felarin> and windows users who are switching just love websites that have everything
[04:38] <jonathan__> anybody know how to get a mac address
[04:38] <LjL> Felarin: i doubt that highly. if sources.list is broken, it must be fixed, or the system will break anyway
[04:38] <Felarin> seeing a blackscreen gives them jitters
[04:38] <MiMiC> whar: networkmanager, or just install/upgrade to feisty
[04:38] <Toma-> Khrajin: something like 'sudo /etc/init.d/httpd (or apache2) restart'
[04:38] <hwilde> dr_willis, firefox goes to the find plugin link, locates jre and goes to manual install, that points to this page: http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp  I tried both the rpm.bin and the .bin and it doesn't work
[04:39] <RabidWeezle> beats blue screens
[04:39] <LjL> Felarin: there's Synaptic, no need for a black screen. your advice is very misleading, seriously.
[04:39] <Felarin> it may not be broken, but some sources may be commented out.
[04:39] <jonathan__> if in command prompt we must use getmac
[04:39] <Pici> jonathan__: ifconfig shows it under HWaddress
[04:39] <Felarin> they told him about synaptic
[04:39] <slash> ...
[04:39] <jonathan__> but in terminal?
[04:39] <Felarin> but it isn't what he wants
[04:39] <jonathan__> oh...
[04:39] <Tinned_Tuna> jonathan__: it should be there automatically, a MAC address is your NIC's hardware address ?
[04:39] <LjL> hwilde: what was the problem again? you're trying to get Java working?
[04:39] <jonathan__> ifcofig
[04:39] <Pici> jonathan__: ifconfig
[04:39] <RabidWeezle> synaptic rocks :)
[04:39] <whar> tell me some best tools for configuring wireless on ubuntu edgy ???
[04:39] <jonathan__> ifconfig
[04:39] <LjL> hwilde: as in, "working for applets in a web browser"?
[04:39] <rmd_> okay.  i'm trying to install a theme... any theme... none of the theme files i've downloaded will change the color scheme of metacity/gtk, whatever....
[04:39] <LjL> !wifi > whar    (whar, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:39] <Pici> jonathan__: you need to type it in a terminal
[04:39] <jonathan__> just like ipconfig hah?
[04:39] <wols> whar: an editor
[04:39] <MiMiC> hwilde: simplest solution :D "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts"
[04:39] <jonathan__> ini windows
[04:39] <shiftplusone> does anyone know a support channel for sound issues?
[04:39] <Khrajin> Toma-: http://70.191.82.58/ ?
[04:39] <LjL> !enter | jonathan__
[04:39] <ubotu> jonathan__: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[04:39] <dr_willis> hwilde,  you DONT want to let firefox do it. You just need to install the  sun-java6-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files)  Package
[04:40] <LjL> shiftplusone: no, there's this channel.
[04:40] <LjL> !sound > shiftplusone    (shiftplusone, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:40] <jonathan__> ok
[04:40] <Toma-> Khrajin: still no go
[04:40] <jonathan__> I'll try to not press enter key as punctuation
[04:40] <Toma-> Khrajin: your 80 port is filtered..
[04:40] <shiftplusone> nuh, none of those help me and I have asked the question several times... nobody knows what's the problem
[04:40] <sipior> jonathan__: lol
[04:41] <RabidWeezle>     A virus scanner for Linux/Unix systems
[04:41] <hwilde> dr_willis, ok but that's what firefox points to...
[04:41] <Khrajin> Toma-: I have port 80 setup to be forwarded to the server
[04:41] <jonathan__> sipior: lol
[04:41] <hwilde> LjL, I just need firefox java plugin that's all...
[04:41] <Toma-> Khrajin: right.
[04:41] <RabidWeezle> come on, I have run linux for forkin years, and never caught a single virus...
[04:41] <Tinned_Tuna> RabidWeezle: I use ClamAV :p
[04:41] <MiMiC> hwilde: type "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts" in terminal
[04:41] <johnschroeder> sipior, it is still installing, :(
[04:41] <hwilde> MiMiC, it's downloading in synaptic already
[04:41] <visham> help needed to setup a usb adsl modem on breezy
[04:41] <jonathan__> there is not such a virus in linux
[04:41] <MiMiC> kk that too :P
[04:41] <Khrajin> Toma-: Rebooting it
[04:41] <hwilde> !adsl | visham
[04:42] <Tinned_Tuna> yea, I have a VM that writes to SMB shares, I need to scan those as other windows boxen could get 'ill'
[04:42] <ubotu> visham: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[04:42] <sipior> johnschroeder: slow internet connection? it's a big package, with dependancies
[04:42] <dr_willis> hwilde,  dosent matter. the 'ubuntu' way is to use the package manager.
[04:42] <RabidWeezle> oh?
[04:42] <RabidWeezle> I don't use a vm, I just got many pc's :)
[04:42] <visham> ubotu,  i checked the site already i need to set up the adsl modem via the usb
[04:42] <crockodie> how can i make my ubuntu a webserver?
[04:42] <Felarin> if they so so, hey hwilde : just use synaptic
[04:42] <Toma-> Khrajin: ok
[04:42] <wols> crockodie: install apache
[04:42] <dr_willis> crockodie,  install apache2 (or whatever its called)
[04:42] <Toma-> !lamp | crockodie
[04:42] <ubotu> crockodie: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[04:42] <wols> crockodie: rather, apache2
[04:42] <RabidWeezle> this is the house of geek
[04:42] <RabidWeezle> :)
[04:42] <jonathan__> anybody can help me to install internet explorer 7 in my wine?
[04:42] <johnschroeder> umm no internet connection should be fast. of course it is only a cable modem no t1 line or anything
[04:43] <Felarin> internet explorer 7 in wine?
[04:43] <Felarin> that's new
[04:43] <wols> jonathan__: no. ask microsoft, not us
[04:43] <RabidWeezle> only VM I use is for pearpc for osx tiger
[04:43] <Toma-> crockodie: if youre after something very simple, thttpd is a great little server
[04:43] <MiMiC> lol
[04:43] <jonathan__> ha2
[04:43] <crockodie> hmmm do i have to configure my router to forward to port 80 or other port ?
[04:43] <Felarin> seriously man, that's new
[04:43] <jonathan__> ask for microsuck hah?
[04:43] <LjL> Felarin: it's not. many people who do web design need their site to be tested on IE.
[04:43] <MiMiC> jonathan: what's wrong with firefox?
[04:43] <wols> Felarin: testing a site in different browsers it makes sense. still: OT in #ubuntu
[04:43] <jonathan__> that's good
[04:43] <jonathan__> just only test those wine
[04:43] <RabidWeezle> didn't bill just take linus to court for copyright infringment?
[04:43] <Felarin> you might as well create a VM
[04:44] <Felarin> and test there
[04:44] <MiMiC> aha
[04:44] <crockodie> Toma- thttpd ? i never heard about this one can u guide setting this up ?
[04:44] <Pici> !ies4linux | jonathan__
[04:44] <ubotu> jonathan__: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, dont use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!
[04:44] <wols> RabidWeezle: no
[04:44] <Felarin> test whatever microsoft you want
[04:44] <LjL> !offtopic | RabidWeezle
[04:44] <ubotu> RabidWeezle: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:44] <RabidWeezle> :/
[04:44] <elkbuntu> Pici, does ies4linux do ie7 now?
[04:44] <Toma-> crockodie: the /etc/thttpd/conf file will guide you
[04:44] <hwilde> so I have to dl 27MB just for a java plugin?? it should be tiny mozilla-jre-plugin package
[04:44] <Pici> elkbuntu: I'm not sure, I saw something about it but it isnt on their main page.
[04:44] <Khrajin> Toma-: How do you force a machine to have an IP address?
[04:44] <hwilde> Khrajin, man ifconfig
[04:44] <Toma-> Khrajin: static ips?
[04:44] <Pici> elkbuntu: I dont use it :/
[04:44] <jonathan__> might be this is right to change my OS to linux
[04:45] <Khrajin> Toma-: Static local
[04:45] <klav> ^^
[04:45] <jonathan__> this is much more secure and better
[04:45] <crockodie> Toma- but do i have to set my router forward to port 80 or its automatically listen to port 80 ?
[04:45] <MiMiC> hwilde: u need to have JRE in order to run the plugin... the plugin simply starts java
[04:45] <Toma-> Khrajin: its more to do with your router. disable dhcp and enable static ips, then setup your computer to have its assigned IP from the router
[04:45] <wols> crockodie: you need the router port forward it
[04:45] <MiMiC> hwilde: after installing sun's java, type "java -version" and make sure u get sun's version, not the crappy gcj
[04:45] <Khrajin> Toma-: ah k
[04:45] <Toma-> crockodie: youll need to make the conf file bind your servers ip to your router and yes, open the 80 port
[04:45] <hwilde> MiMiC, it is installing sun-java6-bin package
[04:46] <wols> Khrajin: edit /etc/network/interfaces and set the IP static. man interfaces
[04:46] <crockodie> yeah but im running DCHP in my router .. is it better to configure my static IP ?
[04:46] <Khrajin> wolki: thx
[04:46] <wols> crockodie: for portforwarding it can be
[04:46] <Omnius> I tried brctl and it stuffed my network
[04:46] <crockodie> wols but i already havestatic IP
[04:46] <Toma-> crockodie: not really. just setup your DHCP leases for like a week, then dont turn off your computer for more than a week :)
[04:47] <elkbuntu> pici http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Beta
[04:47] <crockodie> yeah its been 4yrs now never shut down my pc
[04:47] <wols> crockodie: then it's fine
[04:47] <sipior> Omnius: well, you might have to read the man page first :)
[04:47] <crockodie> im running redhat before
[04:47] <ROPSS3> Hmm, a lot more people here than I thought there would be.
[04:47] <Pici> jonathan__: See http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Beta for getting ie7 installed
[04:47] <crockodie> now im changing to ubuntu
[04:47] <wols> Omnius: and/or a howto
[04:47] <Pici> elkbuntu: thanks, I passed it on.
[04:47] <rmd_> okay.  i've tried several times to install a theme archive now.  the theme does not appear on the list after installation, except under the heading of "custom theme" and it does not change the colors.  this happens for all themes i've tried to install.
[04:48] <Omnius> lol
[04:48] <ROPSS3> Well I suppose someone can help me with my Divx problem?
[04:48] <pegger> for evolution can  you sync your contacts with a imap server???
[04:48] <Omnius> i did
[04:48] <hwilde> MiMiC, dr_willis, E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java6-bin_6-00-2ubuntu2_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:48] <Pici> rmd_: Its possible that those themes dont support changing the colors.
[04:48] <MiMiC> rmd, if u really want themes, easiest way i know is installing beryl and using their theme manager GUI :P
[04:48] <otman> hy all
[04:48] <Lilacor> !anyone
[04:48] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:48] <Omnius> i bridged my if's ok then removed them from the bridge and now i cant get online
[04:48] <Pici> MiMiC: You must have a twisted definition of easy.
[04:48] <visham_> usb adsl modem help
[04:48] <MiMiC> hwilde: what's ur question?
[04:48] <rmd_> Pichi, every screenshot i've seen of the themes i've been trying to install shows them with drastically different colors
[04:48] <johnschroeder> sipior, do you get paid to sit here and chat and help people?
[04:49] <crockodie> i agree to MiMiC install beryl its cool
[04:49] <sipior> Omnius: do you still have a default route?
[04:49] <Omnius> not sure
[04:49] <sipior> johnschroeder: not generally. do you get paid to ask questions?
[04:49] <MiMiC> pici: if theme is what he's asking for, he'll discover a whole crapload of goodies with beryl. I say worth the pain :D
[04:49] <wols> Omnius: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:49] <johnschroeder> pretty much, this is for my company not myself haha
[04:49] <johnschroeder> you sure are being a great help to me
[04:49] <ROPSS3> Can anyone help me to get divx and stage 6 movies working?
[04:49] <Omnius> ok i'll try that thanks
[04:49] <hwilde> MiMiC, I installed the package from synaptic and it gave me that error!  E: /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java6-bin_6-00-2ubuntu2_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:50] <Omnius> brb
[04:50] <Pici> johnschroeder: 99.9% of us here are volunteers and not employees of Canonical
[04:50] <rmd_> MiMiC, I don't relish the thought of installing even more crap to sit in RAM
[04:50] <Lilacor> ROPSS3: install VLC and all its codecs and you should be able to play the videos fine.
[04:50] <jonathan__> wow! This is my first time using ubuntu and I'm enjoy it!
[04:50] <johnschroeder> gotcha, this chat room is pretty useful though
[04:50] <ROPSS3> Could you possibly link me to that
[04:50] <ROPSS3> I installed vlc once and it wasn't so helpful.
[04:50] <clever> if i have a dualboot setup could i say put ubuntu into hibernation and boot into the other os?
[04:50] <_pinky_> hello world
[04:50] <crockodie> is it possible to run Ubuntu in Windows XP using VMware ?
[04:50] <Lilacor> ROPSS3: no, use your synaptic package manager
[04:50] <shoot`> guys, im trying to send email using postfix for smtp, running locally... however, i get delivery failure notification from both gmail and hotmail, stating its for "policy reasons on the gateway". I'm guessing its because its a server running on a local machine... but anyone got any ideas how i can get around it? dont want to use my own ISPs cos its been kinda unreliable.
[04:50] <Pici> !codecs | ROPSS3 take a look at these links
[04:50] <ubotu> ROPSS3 take a look at these links: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:50] <ROPSS3> Ah okay
[04:50] <_pinky_> clever : of corse
[04:51] <MiMiC> hwilde: I've never seen that error before. what is ur version of ubuntu?
[04:51] <clever> _pinky_: good:)
[04:51] <crockodie> is it possible to run Ubuntu in Windows XP using VMware ?
[04:51] <Pici> crockodie: Very possible.
[04:51] <clever> _pinky_: but im guessing i shouldnt have the fat32 mounted under ubuntu though
[04:51] <hwilde> MiMiC, 2.6.20-15-generic #2 SMP Sun Apr 15 07:36:31 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:51] <johnschroeder> how do you people get into all this, especially linux? i have really gotten in to windows and macs but not linux
[04:51] <clever> at the time of entering hibernation
[04:51] <MiMiC> ROP: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#Multimedia_Players_.26_Browser_Plug-ins
[04:51] <crockodie> Pici can u guide me
[04:51] <verahsa> johnschroeder: can't speak for anyone else, but for me i got curious and devoted time to it.
[04:51] <Lilacor> johnschroeder: boredom
[04:51] <_pinky_> crockodie : it's possible yes
[04:52] <MiMiC> hwilde: try this version instead: open up a new terminal, and type "sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts"
[04:52] <johnschroeder> i see
[04:52] <crockodie> what programs do i need to download
[04:52] <rmd_> this is pretty pathetic.  a system that can't even change themes correctly...
[04:52] <klav> ?
[04:52] <johnschroeder> i can not even begin to understand how linux is structured i mean there is all kinds of differ linux os.
[04:52] <MiMiC> rmd: do u have ATI or Nvidia?
[04:53] <hwilde> So the Synaptic sun-java6 package does not work??
[04:53] <Pici> crockodie: Take a look at this very good tutorial, it explains everything: http://www.tanguay.info/web/tutorial.php?idCode=installUbuntuOnVmware
 : you can do it in /etc/fstab
[04:53] <Tinned_Tuna> hwilde: automatix !
[04:53] <crockodie> Pici which program do i need to download to do that ?
[04:53] <MiMiC> hwilde: jus follow my instructions. it always works for me
[04:53] <sipior> johnschroeder: the differences are pretty minimal, and principally on the administration end of things
[04:53] <wols> !automatix
[04:53] <ubotu> Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[04:53] <rmd_> MiMiC, why would that matter in the least for changing colors according to a theme?
[04:53] <wols> Tinned_Tuna: we don't support that
[04:53] <LjL> johnschroeder, some things are specific to the Linux kernel - some things are specific to Unix (or POSIX) systems in general - some things are quite Debian centric.
[04:53] <_pinky_> clever  : to mount automtcally an fat32 FSs
[04:53] <Pici> Tinned_Tuna: Can you please stop suggesting automatix and take a look at ubotu's message about it.
[04:53] <MiMiC> rmd: i strongly recommend installing beryl if you want to change colors, get cooler effects, new skins, etc etc
[04:54] <tinin> !WorksForMe
[04:54] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[04:54] <crockodie> Pici what program do i need to download to do that
[04:54] <Tinned_Tuna> wols: personal experience shows different for me, but if you don't like it...
[04:54] <wols> Tinned_Tuna: I don't care about. the channel doesnA't like it
[04:54] <MiMiC> rmd: go to www.ubuntuguide.org, search for beryl, and follow their detailed instructions. It should be a breeze if you have the latest ubuntu
[04:54] <johnschroeder> so the best way to learn is to install any of linux os that are gui if you can and learn that way, and work from there or try things, mainly with this ubuntu server i am looking to run it as a web server
[04:54] <adriano> please , with i install NVU, i not be repository of the NVU
[04:54] <rmd_> MiMiC, I don't want Beryl.  I want the supposed functionality of the system to function.  i do not want more crap, on top of this ridiculous amount of GNOME stuff sitting in RAM.
[04:54] <LjL> Tinned_Tuna: we don't like it indeed. feel free to use it if it works for you, just don't recommend it here, please.
[04:54] <Pici> crockodie: Huh? The page I linked to you explains what you need. I'm not sure what program you are asking about.
[04:54] <_pinky_> clever  : to mount automtcally an fat32 FSs  by editing etc fstab
[04:54] <clever> _pinky_: yeah i know how to auto mount the fat32 but if the fat32 is in use by ubuntu when it goes into hibernation
[04:55] <tobyb> Ubuntu newbie: With a Norton Ghost image of my XP system, if I screw-up my Ubuntu dual-boot install setup (with GRUB in the MBR) will restoring my XP image restore my MBR and return me to my pre-install state?
[04:55] <BrixSat> i need some help?
[04:55] <rmd_> I want the themes to do what they are supposed to.  it doesn't seem all that complicated.
[04:55] <jaypro> do you guys know of a program that can import *.pst files that were originally from microsoft outlook?
[04:55] <clever> _pinky_: then i boot the fat32 and modify it...
[04:55] <MiMiC> rmd: in that case, sorry, I do not know why you cannot change themes...
[04:55] <crockodie> Pici i aint see any link from u ?
[04:55] <Pici> crockodie: http://www.tanguay.info/web/tutorial.php?idCode=installUbuntuOnVmware
[04:55] <CheshireViking> adriano, nvu doesn't exist anymore, its been replaced, give me a min & i'll find out what it is
[04:55] <crockodie> there
[04:55] <rmd_> MiMiC, I can change themes, but the archive is not being installed correctly (only 1 option out of 4 shows up) and none of the colors change, even though the window decorations do.
[04:55] <LjL> !info readpst | jaypro
[04:55] <crockodie> ty Pici
[04:55] <smoenux> Can someone please help me connect to my router, or direct me to a channel that can help. (For some reason I cant connect to my Router in Feisty)
[04:55] <ubotu> jaypro: readpst: Converts Outlook PST files to mbox and others. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1 (feisty), package size 54 kB, installed size 192 kB
[04:55] <clever> _pinky_: ubuntu's cache/state for the fat32 mounting wont match up right when it comes out of hibernation id think
[04:55] <LjL> jaypro: that was easily found by me by typing "apt-cache search outlook". learning to search repositories is very important.
[04:55] <BrixSat> how can i install a theme? what is the gnome default theme manager?
[04:56] <LjL> !packages > jaypro    (jaypro, see the private message from Ubotu)
[04:56] <RabidWeezle> anyone know if I install 6.10 outa the box after updates and stuff, do I got proper 3d acceleration on a ati radeon mobility?
[04:56] <MiMiC> rmd: my only suggestion is try updating your system with "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade". that might fix some bugs that ur programs might have
[04:56] <rmd_> BrixSat, you can't.  the function is broken to the point of being essentially useless.
[04:56] <adriano> CheshireViking, What i can install in the place it ?
[04:56] <rmd_> MiMiC, I am completely up to date.
[04:56] <jrib> rmd_: please don't misinform
[04:56] <jrib> !themes > BrixSat (see the private message from ubotu)
[04:56] <_pinky_> clever : ah ok
[04:56] <BrixSat> so i cant use themes unless i use the ones it has got?
[04:57] <rmd_> jrib, well, until someone can show me otherwise, all I can tell someone is what i have seen, which is that the option is completely useless
[04:57] <Pici> BrixSat: Of course you can.  Take a look at the message from ubotu
[04:57] <jrib> BrixSat: you can.  Go to one of the websites ubotu gave you, find a nice theme, download it.  Then drag it into the system > preferences > themes dialog
[04:57] <jaypro> LjL ahhh...never knew about that.  Thanks!
[04:57] <lusepuster> Hi folks - just installed PCLOS on an extra partition. Might have been stupid, but I let PCLOS setup GRUB, and now I have a hard time booting into Ubuntu
[04:57] <clever> _pinky_: also i probly shouldnt touch the ext3 from win98 but thats near imposible:P
[04:57] <jrib> rmd_: then make it clear that it doesn't work for *you*
[04:57] <_pinky_> clever : i think that it's ceate a temporary  files on fat32 fs
[04:57] <riotkittie> ew. irssi in an xshell makes me feel so ... dirty
[04:57] <klav> Yes - installing themes has been easy as pie for me
[04:57] <ikonia> lusepuster: define hard time
[04:57] <clever> the fat32 im using for some data storage and for win98
[04:58] <klav> Anyone have a good link for adding addition codecs?
[04:58] <BrixSat> for example in gnome-look i have the metacity themes and the gdm themes? what are the ones i need?
[04:58] <clever> but since i can write to it from linux its not realy in the way any
[04:58] <rmd_> jrib, right, well, i apologize, "out of the box, none of the supported themes work in any way correctly"  sorry.
[04:58] <_pinky_> clever :  good luck :)
[04:58] <_pinky_> bye
[04:58] <clever> main problem is ym 128mb ram is making the installer a bit slow
[04:58] <MiMiC> klav: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[04:58] <LjL> clever: what installed, the Desktop CD installer? 128Mb is *very* borderline for that.
[04:58] <Pici> rmd_: Can you link me to a theme that you're trying to install and colorize so I can attempt to duplicate the issue here?
[04:59] <clever> yeah desktop for 7.04
[04:59] <rmd_> oh, wait, *for me* because i'm certain it has something to do with my system, forgetting of course that the entire thing is completely uncustomized... mostly because it has been impossible to do so.
[04:59] <lusepuster> ikonia, sorry - the bootup screen is replaced by scrolling text mode, ubuntu boots fine but the sound doesn't work. Once logged into ubuntu, the screen goes white an I only see the mouse cursor
[04:59] <riotkittie> i am debating an upgrade to 7.04 but ... :\
[04:59] <tinin> !themes >
[04:59] <klav> MiMiC: thank you
[04:59] <tinin> !themes
[04:59] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[04:59] <clever> the system was 64mb but i shoved 2 unkown chips in
[04:59] <MiMiC> Felarin: still there? I need some help with my wired ethernet connection
[04:59] <rmd_> Pici: ATER, the highest rated metacity theme on gnome-look.org
[04:59] <ikonia> lusepuster: sounds like its done more than play with grub
[04:59] <clever> lshw shows it as a 64 and a pair of 32's
[04:59] <LjL> !pm the bot > tintin
[04:59] <RabidWeezle> what version of gtk does 6.10 use?
[04:59] <jrib> BrixSat: metacity themes control what the window decorations look like, gtk themes control the buttons and other controls.  gdm themes are for the login window
[04:59] <CheshireViking> adriano, its replacement is called kompozer, here's the link & instructions on how to install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kompozer
[04:59] <rmd_> Pici: Also Blended...
[04:59] <RabidWeezle> 2.x?
[04:59] <Pici> rmd_: okay, let me check. Give me a few minutes.
[04:59] <BrixSat> what theme manager does ubuntu has?
[04:59] <rmd_> Pici: and every other theme I've downloaded.
[04:59] <ikonia> lusepuster: the scrolling text is because you've overwritten the version of grub installed with the grub version from another OS
[04:59] <ROPSS3> Okay I installed all the VLC plugins and everything
[04:59] <ROPSS3> still not able to watch it
[05:00] <_malajenho_> hi
[05:00] <clever> with swap off the livecd wouldnt realy even run on 128mb ram
[05:00] <riotkittie> ew. with 128mb ram, there are better distro options.
[05:00] <LjL> !info libgtk2.0-0 | RabidWeezle
[05:00] <ubotu> rabidweezle: libgtk2.0-0: The GTK+ graphical user interface library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.11-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 2481 kB, installed size 5372 kB
[05:00] <lusepuster> ikonia: Okay, yes that is probably true
[05:00] <LjL> !info libgtk2.0-0 edgy > RabidWeezle
[05:00] <jrib> !changethemes > BrixSat (see the private message from ubotu)
[05:00] <clever> but i added 'init=/bin/bash' to the kernel line and that let me enable swap very early on
[05:00] <lusepuster> ikonia: Can I simply do that once again w the Feisty live cd?
[05:00] <leagris> Hello, still having some problem reading some DVD. Despite having latest libdvdcss2 1.2.9. Some DVD are partially vieuwable and part of the titles cause seeks to non existant blocks. Cane someone help?
[05:00] <_malajenho_> anyone could to help me to fix my ftp server??
[05:00] <clever> then i just exec /sbin/init and it acted like a normal boot up
[05:00] <rmd_> Oh and this is cute now, I downloaded a file that ends in .tar.gz as a GDM theme, and i'm trying to install it, and the installer is telling me that it is not a file that ends in .tar.gz, even though it is obviously named thusly
[05:00] <djieno> Can anybody help me out making a cross cable connection between two dapper server machines?
[05:00] <ikonia> lusepuster: you can re-install fesity yes
[05:00] <adriano> CheshireViking, thanks ....
[05:00] <johnschroeder> 6 minutes left to finish installing!!
[05:00] <rmd_> this is truly amazin
[05:01] <lusepuster> ikonia - can't I just reinstall grub w/o reinstalling all feisty?
[05:01] <LjL> rmd_: is there a bug filed?
[05:01] <leagris> djieno, are you using ethernet?
[05:01] <djieno> hi
[05:01] <djieno> yes
[05:01] <ikonia> lusepuster: you can, but I don't know what else has changed, sounds like other things have been changed due to sound/screen not working too
[05:02] <leagris> djieno, any modern NIC card wil sens data path and kindl cross connect even on stright ethernet cables.
[05:02] <rmd_> LjL: i don't know, i've tried googling "themes just flat out do not work on a completely fresh system" isn't bringing much up
[05:02] <johnschroeder> sipior: so when i typed in aptitude, all it did was download from a server the package?
[05:02] <BrixSat> yes but what is the default theme manager
[05:02] <djieno> i have both servers eth1 in same subnet
[05:02] <sipior> johnschroeder: should have installed it as well
[05:02] <jrib> BrixSat: I told you, system -> preferences -> themes
[05:02] <_malajenho_> anyone is using proftpd or similar????
[05:02] <sipior> johnschroeder: and all the packages it needs as well
[05:02] <lusepuster> ikonia: Screen works fine, I get the Ubuntu login screen, and it loads the panels and so before going blank
[05:02] <ikonia> _malajenho_: just ask the question
[05:02] <djieno> leagris, two 3com network 3c509 cards
[05:02] <wols> djieno: what is in your /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:03] <ikonia> lusepuster: so its going blank - therefore doesn't work
[05:03] <clever> leagris: i think only my newrouter and my newest laptop can do that and i beleive its called something like auto crossover
[05:03] <LjL> rmd_: when i say "bug", i mean Ubuntu bug. which hardly involves Google. search http://bugs.ubuntu.com for "themes" or "gnome themes", and if you don't find a bug report, make one.
[05:03] <leagris> djieno, check the link is physically up and with same parameters with tehtool
[05:03] <sipior> johnschroeder: you'll probably want to restart to make sure that gnome comes up properly
[05:03] <BrixSat> jrib but when i do install a theme it should be for metacity or what else?
[05:03] <johnschroeder> sipior: oh i see, all i did was download the ubuntu server, and what your saying is i should have download everything?
[05:03] <tobyb> is having an XP disk image a good recovery safeguard in case I botch my Ubuntu dual-boot install attempt? can i restore the image and thus wipe out grub in my MBR?
[05:03] <lusepuster> ikonia: yes, but it isn't any hardware thing, that's what I mean
[05:03] <djieno> leagris, what is the tool?
[05:03] <jrib> BrixSat: metacity themes control what the window decorations look like, gtk themes control the buttons and other controls.  gdm themes are for the login window
[05:03] <_malajenho_> I've installed proftpd, and configured, but it doesn't work
[05:03] <sipior> johnschroeder: no. it grabbed all the packages it needed for the GNOME desktop, and installed them
[05:03] <ikonia> lusepuster: of course its not
[05:03] <leagris> djieno, spelled it ethtool
[05:03] <sipior> johnschroeder: you should be good to o
[05:03] <ikonia> _malajenho_: define doesn't work
[05:03] <BrixSat> thanks jrib i got it now
[05:03] <BrixSat> :)
[05:03] <djieno> allright..sorry :-)
[05:03] <sipior> johnschroeder: go
[05:03] <jrib> BrixSat: great
[05:03] <_malajenho_> ok
[05:04] <Pici> rmd_: Okay, I think I know what the issue is.
[05:04] <djieno> leagris, wols, how can i filter you instead of all ?
[05:04] <djieno> sorry first time irc
[05:04] <sipior> johnschroeder: so try restarting the machine and see if it worked properly
[05:04] <rmd_> Pici: ??
[05:04] <leagris> djieno, open a private room
[05:04] <johnschroeder> i see, so it just grabbed what i need to see the GNOME desktop, but not it is different from the acutal ubuntu desktop edition right? there is a difference but it is the same?
[05:04] <lusepuster> ikonia, anyway, I'll give a reinstall a try
[05:04] <wols> djieno: paste your /etc/network/interfaces in a pastebing please
[05:05] <johnschroeder> sipior: okay it is not quite done just yet
[05:05] <Pici> rmd_: I dont think that Gnome can currently install more than one theme if they are compressed. If I uncompress the file then I drag each of the subfolders separately into the theme window and install them.  You can only manually change the colors of GTK themes (controls) not Metacity themes(window borders)
[05:05] <djieno> wolf,...can you join the conversation with leagris
[05:05] <Pici> rmd_: Try that and see if it works
[05:06] <_malajenho_> I've edited my proftpd.conf like this:     http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=36710
[05:06] <wols> djieno: no I won't
[05:06] <ikonia> _malajenho_: just tell us the problem
[05:06] <_malajenho_> ok
[05:06] <djieno> wolf, allright..hold on ill paste the config of /etc/network interfaces
[05:06] <leagris> djieno, do you read me on the private room?
[05:07] <_malajenho_> I can enter in my ftp server with my own pc: ftp://myip
[05:07] <ROPSS3> Okay, whenever I go to Tv-links.co.uk and try to watch scrubs (I know scrubs is in divx format) it still won't work
[05:07] <rmd_> Pici: it still acts the same.  so how do i change the colors?
[05:07] <ROPSS3> I did install the new VLC and all plugins as well.
[05:07] <_malajenho_> but when I try to enter with another pc, I can't
[05:07] <Pici> rmd_: You should have multiple entries for each colored version of the theme.
[05:07] <_malajenho_> I would be: ftp://mypublicip
[05:07] <_malajenho_> yes?
[05:07] <ikonia> _malajenho_: if you want help your going to have to give better info than that
[05:07] <Fjodor> Having some trouble with k9copy. Is there another app of similar capacities?
[05:07] <neverblue> _malajenho_, yes
[05:07] <ikonia> _malajenho_: no - your public Ip is natted
[05:07] <neverblue> but you have to open ports
[05:07] <LjL> !enter | _malajenho_
[05:07] <ubotu> _malajenho_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:07] <leagris> _malajenho_, is your FTP server runing? Does it listen to any IP/interface/port
[05:08] <thirdy> What's the equivalent of Bloodshed's Dev-c++5 in xubuntu
[05:08] <thirdy> ?
[05:08] <rmd_> Pici: when I drag the subfolder into the theme manager, it pops up under "custom theme"
[05:08] <neverblue> _malajenho_, what FTP server are you using?
[05:08] <rmd_> Pici, it doesn't install anything
[05:08] <LjL> !code > thirdy    (thirdy, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:08] <rmd_> it "customizes"
[05:08] <_malajenho_> proftpd
[05:08] <Pici> rmd_: I see AlTER-Blue, ALTER-Bluemac if I go to customize theme, Window border
[05:08] <mon^rch> could somebody please tell me how I can prevent a specific program from being able to access the internet?
[05:08] <neverblue> _malajenho_, takes a bit to learn that FTP server :)
[05:08] <neverblue> _malajenho_, how many systems on your LAN?
[05:08] <neverblue> that you have access to
[05:08] <_malajenho_> only 1
[05:09] <LjL> mon^rch: i think this has been discussed before and the conclusion was that you can't
[05:09] <neverblue> _malajenho_, ok, so you need to post your proftpd.conf on pastebin
[05:09] <_malajenho_> http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=36710
[05:09] <neverblue> _malajenho_, ill take a look at it
[05:09] <_malajenho_> ok
[05:09] <_malajenho_> thanks
[05:09] <Pici> rmd_: Yes...These are metacity themes, They do not include icons or window controls and as such they do not get entered as a 'theme' just an entry in the customize window.
[05:09] <_malajenho_> :)
[05:09] <rmd_> Pici: I don't.
[05:09] <neverblue> _malajenho_, you can port scan your own box, to check that port 21 (default FTP port) is open
[05:10] <_malajenho_> ok
[05:10] <thirdy> I have xfce, dat mins I can't run KDE and GNOME apps right?
[05:10] <_malajenho_> I'll do
[05:10] <mon^rch> LjL: karp you have a good memory! I was just starting to think that if Windows' firewall can do it... why not Linux's??
[05:10] <Pici> rmd_: You uncompressed the theme.tar.gz?
[05:10] <neverblue> unless you changed it... but the port scanner will tell you which service is on each port anyways..
[05:10] <johnschroeder> sipior:
[05:10] <rmd_> Pici: um, yes.
[05:10] <johnschroeder> sipior:i told it to do no configuration
[05:10] <LjL> mon^rch: i think you could possibly, however, use a program like "proxychains" (there are others as well), which are intended to trick a program into using a proxy instead of connecting to the Internet directly. if you give it no working proxy, i suppose that would mean your program won't be able to connect
[05:10] <sipior> johnschroeder: of what?
[05:10] <johnschroeder> i am not sure
[05:10] <rmd_> Pici: I see the folders, but i dont see any entries under "customize/window borders"
[05:10] <thirdy> !code>thirdy
[05:10] <johnschroeder> something asked me if i wanted to do it in of these 5 different ways
[05:11] <johnschroeder> local only no config, sateilite
[05:11] <sipior> johnschroeder: ah, the mail server configuration
[05:11] <johnschroeder> sipior: yep
[05:11] <sipior> johnschroeder: you probably want to leave that unconfigured unless you plan on sending or receiving mail on that box
[05:11] <_malajenho_> neverblue:     port 21?
[05:11] <Elko> Khrajin: thx, seems to work (though I didn't see avi there as a choice to convert the mp4)
[05:11] <djieno> wolf, # The secondairy network interface
[05:11] <djieno> auto eth1
[05:11] <djieno> iface eth1 inet static
[05:11] <djieno>         address 10.0.0.1
[05:11] <djieno>         netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:11] <sipior> johnschroeder: if it's just going to be a web server, you can leave it
[05:11] <johnschroeder> i did, whew that was a smart choice then
[05:11] <MuffY> My friend installed ubuntu, and he let the installer choose partitions automatically (which resulted in the death of windows). I asked him to paste his results for fdisk -l to me, and he says only a sda1, sda2 and sda5 are given. Might the windows partition be still alive at sda3 or sda4, because I don't understand why the partition enumeratoin would suddenly skip two numbers.
[05:11] <Pici> rmd_: Did you drag the folders in one at a time? Or did you select them all and drag them all in?
[05:12] <johnschroeder> sipior: good deal
[05:12] <jrib> Fjodor: I like thoggen, there's also dvdrip
[05:12] <rmd_> PIci, forget it.  this fact is that this should not be so complicated.  at the very least, the documentation should be better, or the system for installing them should be able to inform the user what's going on.  this is pathetic.
[05:12] <LjL> mon^rch: actually, "man iptables" gives this option: "--cmd-owner name     Matches if the packet was created by a process with the given command name.".    this seems like what you want
[05:12] <djieno> leagris ?
[05:12] <ikonia> MuffY: extended partitions
[05:12] <leagris> yes djieno?
[05:12] <neverblue> _malajenho_, it will show the service on that port..
[05:12] <dr_willis> MuffY,  check 'sudo fdisk -l' it will show what types of partitions are there
[05:12] <LjL> mon^rch: though it also says, "Please  note:  This  option  requires  kernel  support  that  might not be available in official Linux kernel sources [...] "
[05:12] <jrib> clever: I don't see why not, but I have not tried it
[05:12] <jintxo> I'm having problems booting with only 1 memebert of my mda raid available (it works fine with only 1 device but won't boot with only the OTHER device). I have noticed that ubuntu can't unount md0 when shutting down my system. could that have something to do?
[05:12] <johnschroeder> sipior: does this matter that linux is on this FAT32 vs. NTFS?
[05:12] <MuffY> dr_willis: that's exactly what i asked him to do. this was his output
[05:13] <thirdy> does the items in the panel in xfce significantly slows my comp?
[05:13] <OmnificienT> hey
[05:13] <sipior> johnschroeder: you've installed on a fat32 partition?
[05:13] <Fjodor> jrib: Ok, thanks
[05:13] <dr_willis> thirdy,  they shouldent.
[05:13] <rmd_> Pici, so how do i get the colors of the windows to change?  that's what i'm looking for.
[05:13] <dr_willis> thirdy,  unless your Chip on that machine is a Dorito. :)
[05:13] <thirdy> I'm having a slow machine
[05:13] <OmnificienT> are downloads supposed to go slower on Ubuntu than on winXP?
[05:13] <_malajenho_> neverblue: what do you think about my   proftpd.conf ???
[05:13] <dr_willis> thirdy,  how slow is slow.. :)
[05:13] <djieno> leagris, i m still in the private room
[05:13] <johnschroeder> yes probably so, not sure windows 98 was on there previsouly and i just installed linux over it so it probably has fat32
[05:13] <thirdy> Dorito?
[05:14] <leagris> djieno, for some reason you can't read me
[05:14] <dr_willis> thirdy,  a 'snack chip' :)
[05:14] <sipior> johnschroeder: interesting, didn't think that would work, but the installer probably wrote an ext3 over that partition
[05:14] <neverblue> _malajenho_, i dunno, you did give me the URL so I can look at it
[05:14] <djieno> ow..no.. can't
[05:14] <thirdy> It's lagging
[05:14] <leagris> djieno, /dialog leagris
[05:14] <neverblue> !pastebin | _malajenho_
[05:14] <dr_willis> thirdy,  what is your cpu?
[05:14] <johnschroeder> probably so, you got me
[05:14] <neverblue> !pastebin  _malajenho_
[05:14] <thirdy> 1.1Duron
[05:14] <Pici> rmd_: You'll need a GTK theme that supports changing the colors for that.
[05:14] <neverblue> grrr
[05:14] <ubotu> _malajenho_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:14] <rmd_> Pici, yeah.  thanks.  i just noticed it.
[05:14] <thirdy> 256Mb generic ram
[05:14] <dr_willis> thirdy,  a 1.1 ghz durion?
[05:14] <thirdy> 64mbGeforce2
[05:14] <OmnificienT> anyone can help me installing pidgin?
[05:14] <thirdy> AMD Duron
[05:15] <johnschroeder> this machine is a p3, with 64 to 128 mb of ram very slow!
[05:15] <neverblue> [06/01/07 08:14:16]  <ubotu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[05:15] <johnschroeder> 7 G hd
[05:15] <neverblue> lmao
[05:15] <neverblue> good bot :)
[05:15] <dr_willis> thirdy,  im thinking your  video card could use some improvement.  that is a rather low low end box now a days.
[05:15] <djieno> leagris, what does /dialog leagris mean? sorry for my in experience with irc
[05:15] <sipior> johnschroeder: eeshh...running gnome should be interesting, then
[05:15] <johnschroeder> haha
[05:15] <_malajenho_> neverblue:       http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23596/
[05:15] <leagris> djieno, bring you to private chat with me
[05:15] <dr_willis> thirdy,  you may want to look into using the even lighter window managers like fluxbox, openbox, or windowmaker.
[05:15] <djieno> allright.. i ll do that
[05:15] <neverblue> thanks _malajenho_ that helps :P
[05:15] <thirdy> Maybe wen I have a job
[05:16] <thirdy> So how do I make Xubuntu faster?
[05:16] <dr_willis> thirdy,   when in doubt start cutting out extras :) I used windowmaker for years.
[05:16] <_malajenho_> :)
[05:16] <neverblue> _malajenho_, which user are you trying to login with?
[05:16] <dr_willis> thirdy,  xubuntu is very light. but it still has a few extras on the desktop.
[05:16] <jintxo> any better channels you can recommend for stware raid discussion?
[05:16] <thirdy> Or it's firefox that's making my comp slow
[05:17] <_malajenho_> I've created a new user:     juanchiftp
[05:17] <dr_willis> thirdy,  firefox does use a lot of ram.
[05:17] <leagris> djieno, may be you could use Xchat
[05:17] <dr_willis> thirdy,  could try the uber-light browsers like dilo, or lynx, or links -g
[05:17] <neverblue> _malajenho_, ok, and that user has /home/juanchiftp/ftp ?
[05:17] <_malajenho_> mmm
[05:17] <_malajenho_> wait
[05:17] <neverblue> :)
[05:17] <_malajenho_> yep
[05:17] <Faemir> !info rar
[05:17] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.7b1-2 (feisty), package size 494 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[05:17] <neverblue> ok, and what does the FTP client give you as an error
[05:17] <djieno> leagris, i m on xchat installed through automatix2
[05:18] <neverblue> if its too big, paste it into a pm
[05:18] <neverblue> pm == private message
[05:18] <_malajenho_> ok
[05:18] <Faemir> does anyone know an alternative to the shareware rar software to extract .rars?
[05:18] <omegaotaku> hola
[05:18] <neverblue> and is port 21 open, when you do a port scan?
[05:18] <BlammO> hola
[05:18] <johnschroeder> man this is slow and i am impatience
[05:19] <thirdy> I need my firefox add-ons
[05:19] <omegaotaku> alguien me puede dar una mano con xgl?
[05:19] <CheshireViking> !rar | Faemir
[05:19] <ubotu> Faemir: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[05:19] <BlammO> hi , i need some help
[05:19] <LjL> !es | omegaotaku
[05:19] <ubotu> omegaotaku: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:19] <Faemir> !info unrar-free
[05:19] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (feisty), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[05:19] <BlammO> hi , i need some help  with ubuntu server 7.04.. on HP PROLIANT ML150 G2
[05:19] <neverblue> Faemir, dont use unrar-free
[05:19] <neverblue> use unrar instead
[05:19] <djieno> leagris, i opened new private room
[05:20] <Faemir> ok
[05:20] <darkha7> Anyone here solved the problem with file process protocol unexpectedly quiting?
[05:20] <BlammO> hi , i need some help  with ubuntu server 7.04.. somebody  install  on HP PROLIANT ML150 G2 ?
[05:20] <skyfalcon866> when is gusty gibbion coming out
[05:21] <jrib>  skyfalcon866 october
[05:21] <neverblue> BlammO, what do you need help with exactly?
[05:21] <dr_willis> skyfalcon866,  ubuntu tends to follow a 6 mo release cycle. :) so every 6 mo.
[05:21] <duncan_> would anybody be able to help me install a wireless card driver please?
[05:21] <skyfalcon866> but wasnt there an 8 month cycle before breezy badger to dapper
[05:21] <Faemir> skyfalcon866, october
[05:21] <djieno> leagris, your still here ?
[05:21] <LjL> !wifi > duncan_    (duncan_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:21] <BlammO> the hp proliant have problems
[05:22] <jrib> skyfalcon866: that was a special case because dapper got an extra 2 months
[05:22] <BlammO> with the RAID
[05:22] <BlammO> driver
[05:22] <LjL> !enter
[05:22] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:22] <efrain> anybody talks spanish??
[05:22] <LjL> !es | efrain
[05:22] <ubotu> efrain: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:22] <BlammO> yes , i talk spanish
[05:22] <Pici> efrain: /j #ubuntu-es
[05:22] <neverblue> BlammO, that is a bot responding to a command
[05:23] <CheshireViking> skyfalcon866, dapper is a long term support version & is supported for a number of years, Edgy, Feisty etc are updated every 6 months
[05:23] <_malajenho_> neverblue
[05:23] <neverblue> BlammO, but you might want to seek help in that channel, as its a es channel
[05:23] <neverblue> _malajenho_, i thought u died?
[05:23] <neverblue> lol
[05:23] <skyfalcon866> ok
[05:23] <_malajenho_> heheh
[05:23] <neverblue> hehe
[05:23] <Faemir> ack, can someone tell me how to dissociate .torrent files with bittorrent in firefox? (i'm trying to fedora 7)
[05:23] <_malajenho_> have u entered?
[05:23] <neverblue> _malajenho_, did you port scan your own system?
[05:24] <_malajenho_> mmm
[05:24] <neverblue> how can I enter?
[05:24] <skyfalcon866> what file system is better? EXT3 or reisferfs
[05:24] <_malajenho_> wait a moment
[05:24] <_malajenho_> I'll do
[05:24] <_malajenho_> :)
[05:24] <neverblue> i dont have your password
[05:24] <LjL> !better > skyfalcon866    (skyfalcon866, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:24] <Pici> skyfalcon866: If you have to ask, ext3 is for you.
[05:24] <l_r> hello
[05:24] <l_r> is there an image of ubuntu for usb keys?
[05:24] <neverblue> did you restart the FTPd service after you changed the .conf _malajenho_ ?
[05:24] <LjL> !install > l_r    (l_r, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:24] <skyfalcon866> bye
[05:24] <verahsa> Does someone know how to set beryl so that it starts up with (or after) X starts?
[05:25] <LjL> !beryl > verahsa    (verahsa, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:25] <_malajenho_> no
[05:25] <_malajenho_> I'm open
[05:25] <neverblue> LjL
[05:25] <Pici> !enter | _malajenho_
[05:25] <ubotu> _malajenho_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:25] <_malajenho_> openning my port 21
[05:25] <neverblue> lol
[05:25] <neverblue> going to town on the bot :)
[05:25] <LjL> neverblue: !enter
[05:25] <neverblue> _malajenho_, opening, or it is open?
[05:25] <stephenhill> heh
[05:25] <sipior> LjL: now you're just being ironic
[05:25] <_malajenho_> it's closed
[05:25] <codeyma1> I am having trouble configuring WPA on ubuntu
[05:25] <neverblue> LjL: !spammer!
[05:26] <neverblue> hehe
[05:26] <neverblue> _malajenho_, then the service isnt running
[05:26] <neverblue> you might want to have the service running so the FTPd is actually online....
[05:26] <neverblue> so ppl can connect :)
[05:26] <codeyma1> netapplet does not shows wpa in password type
[05:26] <codeyma1> any help??
[05:27] <nico__> Hello guys
[05:27] <stephenhill> yeah
[05:27] <sap> hi, how to install HP printer in ubuntu. What is PPD file
[05:27] <Ares|Work> hello, if you put proxy details in kconsole, will apt-get use them?
[05:27] <codeyma1> uboyu tell codeyman about wpa
[05:27] <nico__> is this the ubuntu or kubuntu channel
[05:27] <Ares|Work> or is it that root has it's own connections settings?
[05:27] <thirdy> !code>thirdy
[05:27] <LjL> !wpa > codeyma1    (codeyma1, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:27] <mkoko> sap: it is like a driver for the printer, i believe
[05:27] <neverblue> nico__, read the channel name :)
[05:27] <LjL> nico__: this is #ubuntu.
[05:27] <robdeman> folks how many files can I store in a folder on EXT3? I need to store 50.000 in 1 directpry is this possible?
[05:27] <nico__> well, thei're talking about kde software here :D
[05:28] <neverblue> !over abuse of the bot > LjL
[05:28] <sipior> robdeman: sure, only thing that matters is inode count
[05:28] <neverblue> hehe
[05:28] <stephenhill> ping :wakeup
[05:28] <nico__> anyway, did anyone manage to get a dual screen working
[05:28] <LjL> neverblue, hardly.
[05:28] <neverblue> :)
[05:28] <neverblue> atleast someone uses it
[05:28] <sipior> robdeman: and that's per filesystem, not per folder
[05:28] <burepe> if I am using a live cd but have my not working ubuntu partition mounted can I install a .deb in that now working partition somehow?
[05:28] <LjL> robdeman: i don't think ext3 has a limitation on how many files you can put in a single directory, though it has a (settable) limitation on total files
[05:28] <sap> How can I get the PPD file for HP 1020
[05:28] <neverblue> _malajenho_, u doing ok there?
[05:28] <stephenhill> ping : the ppd
[05:29] <_malajenho_> sorry, I'm looking how to open my port
[05:29] <Pici> robdeman: Take a look at the ext3 wikipedia page for exact limitations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[05:29] <neverblue> _malajenho_, you dont
[05:30] <djieno> anyone wanting to help me out a cross connection between two dapper servers?
[05:30] <wols> robdeman: go to wikipedia and look up ext3. there it tells you
[05:30] <nico__> does anyone know how to get dual screen on a laptop running feisty working?
[05:30] <LjL> !dualhead > nico__    (nico__, see the private message from Ubotu)
[05:31] <robdeman> folks: there is no known maximum for EXT3. Will 30.000 files/ per directory be something that works?
[05:31] <nico__> ok nice
[05:31] <robdeman> >> I did check Wikipedia
[05:31] <sipior> robdeman: i think you answered your own question there :)
[05:31] <neverblue> _malajenho_, you have to start the service
[05:31] <robdeman> >> no known maximum?
[05:31] <johnschroeder> sipior: it says it is rebuilding the database, that is where i am
[05:31] <nico__> hm am i correct that gnome runs much faster then KDE
[05:31] <neverblue> sudo /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
[05:31] <nico__> and A LOT faster then microsoft spyware XP
[05:31] <neverblue> _malajenho_, then port scan
[05:31] <aufdb> hey
[05:32] <neverblue> see if the port is open, then try and connect
[05:32] <sipior> robdeman: if performance is an issue, you may want to look at reiserfs, which is apparently faster with lots of small files
[05:32] <LjL> nico__: no. they're both slow. this is offtopic, anyway
[05:32] <neverblue> i have to run
[05:32] <robdeman> sipior: no Im forced to use a shared host account
[05:32] <robdeman> sipior: just stopring tons of uploaded files
[05:32] <sipior> robdeman: you should be fine, then
[05:32] <robdeman> sipior: its PHP-coding-wise so much easier to dump everything in 1 huge folder, no subfodlers
[05:32] <robdeman> sipior: im thinking of maximum 30.000 foto's
[05:33] <thirdy> K-Melon
[05:33] <thirdy> is that a good choice?
[05:33] <Dabaconboy> hey guys just a quick question, how can i get ubuntu 6.06.1 to pick up an ethernet card as i cant get onto the net with ubu
[05:34] <djieno> anyone wanting to help me with my crosscable issue?
[05:34] <SudoBash> boot ubuntu up with the ethernet already in the card
[05:34] <sipior> djieno: what's the issue?
[05:34] <nico__> hm, LjL, i just installed ubuntu, and it really is suprisingly fast
[05:34] <SudoBash> or it wont work sometimes
[05:34] <djieno> sipior, thanks...
[05:34] <Dabaconboy> sudobash: it does not pick up the actual card itself
[05:35] <SudoBash> sudo ifconfig etho up
[05:35] <djieno> sipio, i cannot ping them although secondairy interface is up
[05:35] <johnschroeder> sipior:
[05:35] <SudoBash> eth0
[05:35] <hugolp> Hi
[05:35] <hugolp> anyone here using XawTV?
[05:35] <SudoBash> sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[05:35] <sipior> djieno: what are the IPs of the two interfaces?
[05:35] <SudoBash> try that
[05:35] <djieno> and both are in the same subnet
[05:36] <gravemind> some of my permissions in a folder in my home folder are screwed up. What should I chown -R them to be?
[05:36] <djieno> 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 both 255.255.255.0
[05:36] <Dabaconboy> SudoBash: do you mean in the terminal thing
[05:36] <wols> djieno: "nwtwork" is what you need
[05:36] <sipior> djieno: and you have an entry in the routing table for the crosscable interface?
[05:36] <wols> djieno: network 10.0.0.0
[05:36] <SudoBash> isnt is 255.0.0.0
[05:36] <djieno> hi wols
[05:36] <wols> SudoBash: no
[05:36] <SudoBash> 10.100.1.1 is 255.0.0.0 i think
[05:36] <djieno> no, sipios that could be it
[05:37] <wols> SudoBash: you don't need to. 255.255.255.0 is fine
[05:37] <thirdy> What's the lite easy to use, few feature, fast irc client? I'm using chatzilla, and it's making my comp slow
[05:37] <SudoBash> yeah dabaconboy
[05:37] <wols> djieno: I told you what to do. that will give you the routing entry
[05:37] <wols> thirdy: irssi
[05:37] <djieno> wols, ill go and fetch ;)
[05:37] <LjL> gravemind: chown -R youruser:youruser ~/
[05:37] <thirdy> what's the terminal command?
[05:37] <thirdy> I'm using xubuntu
[05:37] <X-Ception> Anyone know of a good site for printer drivers for ubuntu?
[05:37] <SudoBash> thirdy
[05:38] <SudoBash> sudo apt-get install bitchx
[05:38] <LjL> thirdy: suprisingly, it's "irssi"
[05:38] <gravemind> LjL: thanks. Should I chmod them as well?
[05:38] <SudoBash> that the best light weight irc client
[05:38] <SudoBash> BitchX
[05:38] <wols> djieno: nothing to fetch. only to type in
[05:38] <djieno> i wrote nwtwork
[05:38] <thirdy> bitchx or irssi?
[05:38] <wols> djieno: network
[05:38] <Pici> thirdy: Try them both
[05:38] <djieno> and network nothing reply
[05:38] <LjL> gravemind: no, unless they're seriously messed up. but you can't just chmod them all with a single command, as permissions are *supposed* to be different depending on the file.
[05:38] <Pici> !best
[05:39] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[05:39] <SudoBash> iwI like bitchx
[05:39] <wols> thirdy: bitchx hasn't been developed in ages
[05:39] <thirdy> ok i'll try bitchx
[05:39] <SudoBash> Bitchx has been around a while
[05:39] <djieno> wols, also network no reply
[05:39] <X-Ception> !drivers
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drivers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <X-Ception> !printers
[05:39] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:39] <wols> djieno: in your /etc/network/interfaces. man interfaces
[05:39] <X-Ception> hm.
[05:39] <Brandon420^> Hi. Im a first time ubuntu user. never used linux before neither. im having sound issues(no sound at all.) If someone could help me it would be greatly appricated.
[05:39] <jinesh> hi all
[05:39] <cntb> \o
[05:39] <thirdy> thanx everyone!
[05:40] <wols> !sound | Brandon420^
[05:40] <ubotu> Brandon420^: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:40] <djieno> wols, i ll will open this man now
[05:40] <Ares|Work> hello, if you put proxy details in kconsole, will apt-get use them?
[05:40] <Ares|Work> or is it that root has it's own connections settings?
[05:40] <Tru7h> I have a bit of a complex problem. Long story short, I was trying to make some partitions to install Ubuntu on. About halfway through it gave me an error and said something along the lines of needing to restart or Ubuntu wouldn't recognize.. something. I restarted and discovered when I tried to boot Windows it gave me an error saying "0 Active Partitions, F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup." So I went into Ubuntu and started up the GNOME Partit
[05:40] <Ares|Work> or something else?
[05:40] <cntb> anyone knows how to mess with bcdedit in Vista to bring boot.ini back and use it to point to grub on boot partition ?
[05:41] <Ares|Work> cntb can that be done?
[05:41] <Danzor> Hey, I need some help. Xserver doesn't start because I have an X1400 graphics card. I've been following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI for "7.04 (Feisty)"
[05:41] <Ares|Work> i doubt it can
[05:41] <Danzor> The next step is to "Open the restricted drivers manager included in 7.04 "System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager" and select "ATI accelerated graphics driver". This will hopefully enable fglrx in a painless way."
[05:41] <SudoBash> you probably messed up your partiton tables
[05:41] <Pici> cntb: If its an application in vista, try asking in ##windows, otherwise see !grub
[05:41] <wols> Ares|Work: put it in /etc/apt/conf.d or use th env variable HTTP_PROXY
[05:41] <Brandon420^> Tru: you have to different computers right
[05:41] <Ares|Work> go into linux and reinstal the bootloader
[05:41] <Danzor> However, I can't do that because I don't have GUI
[05:41] <cntb> pici tyvm
[05:41] <Danzor> I'm working on the command-line
[05:41] <Ares|Work> i have no ida hoe though
[05:41] <SudoBash> you can edit boot ini with msconfig
[05:41] <gravemind> LjL: ok. They were messed up in the first place because I'm copying them from my mac's external drive, where the permissions were all different.
[05:41] <SudoBash> there is another way to edit it also
[05:41] <{DB}HobbitJa> Anyone know how i can transfer "info.txt" to my local pc via a telnet session?
[05:41] <cntb> Ares|Work,  I guess yes
[05:42] <djieno> wols, can you see me in private room ?
[05:42] <Ares|Work> wols: how do i use the end variable?
[05:42] <LjL> gravemind: well, afraid you'll have to go through them one by one. but it would probably be safe enough to remove rwx from "others" (i.e. not root and not your user) for all files, and set "rw" for your user
[05:42] <wols> djieno: no. paste your /etc/network/interfaces
[05:42] <Ares|Work> wols: is there a set command like in windows?
[05:42] <wols> !pm | djieno
[05:42] <ubotu> djieno: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[05:42] <cntb> i am on time pressure to deliver an Dual BOOT , and know new vista manager can respect old boot.ini which is good enough for grub pointer
[05:43] <wols> Ares|Work: env variable = environment variable
[05:43] <djieno> ubuto, sorry..first time on irc... seems a bit confusing
[05:43] <wols> cntb: for windows question this channel is the wrong one
[05:43] <Ares|Work> *env
[05:43] <wols> cntb: we can only help with ubuntu questions
[05:43] <wols> djieno: ubotu is a bot
[05:44] <wols> Ares|Work: "export HTTP_PROXY=...."
[05:44] <djieno> wols, hehe..bot ...autoreply i guess
[05:44] <SudoBash> lol
[05:44] <wols> Ares|Work: and "env" to check
[05:44] <djieno> # The secondairy network interface
[05:44] <djieno> auto eth1
[05:44] <djieno> iface eth1 inet static
[05:44] <djieno>         address 10.0.0.1
[05:44] <djieno>         netmask 255.255.255.0
[05:45] <djieno> wols, both dapper servers have this, only one is 1 and second is two
[05:45] <wols> djieno: pastebin. and there is still not "network" line
[05:45] <tru_`z24> What is the package that allows you to right click on desktop and open a new terminal
[05:45] <gravemind> LjL: I think they might be ok without a chmod. Now that I've chowned them, they work as they're supposed to
[05:46] <greyfrog> tru_`z24: nautilus-open-terminal?
[05:46] <djieno> wols, what is pastebin. what kind of network line? i only pasted the lower part
[05:46] <wols> !pate
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:46] <greyfrog> tru_`z24: not sure but I think thats it
[05:46] <wols> !paste
[05:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[05:46] <tru_`z24> ah yes. thanks greyfrog
[05:46] <greyfrog> tru_`z24: no problem
[05:46] <djieno> ah allright i understand pastebin now
[05:47] <linux1> hiya ppl im using feisty(gnome) and i have a problem i cant seem to drag and drop items from folders
[05:47] <omegaotaku> server #ubuntu-es
[05:48] <variant> got an anoying network problem here if anyone knows a solution I would appreciate it, here is the bug report from someone else: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/76489
[05:48] <waspius> hi..does anyone use qtorrent?i dont seem to find how to set it up..it is up and running but i cannot find what port is uses etc so i can enable it in my router
[05:48] <wols> waspius: do you run dbeian or ubuntu?
[05:49] <waspius> wols: debian
[05:49] <waspius> wols: but i did not get any help there
[05:49] <SudoBash> of course
[05:49] <djieno> wols, i feel like coming from idiotland
[05:49] <Tru7h>  I have a bit of a complex problem. I was trying to make some partitions to install Ubuntu on. About halfway through it gave me an error and said something along the lines of needing to restart or Ubuntu wouldn't recognize.. something. I restarted and discovered when I tried to boot Windows it gave me an error saying "0 Active Partitions, F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup." So I went into Ubuntu and started up the GNOME Partition Editor again.
[05:49] <dredhammer> hello i just discovered that totem refuses to play ogg and ogm files any idea what i could be missing it says it has no codec for ogg
[05:50] <waspius> wols: i have been searching the web for a manual or somethning that will tell me but i cannot find anything there either
[05:50] <PriceChild> dredhammer, doesn't it offer codecs to install?
[05:50] <variant> dredhammer: thats enabled by default so libogg and libvorbis must be missing/broken
[05:50] <djieno> wols, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23599/
[05:50] <Danzor> I need something other than gedit to edit xorg.conf
[05:50] <Ares|Work> my connecteion is working funny, sorry but wols, u do "export var=value" to set it and "env var" to check the enviroment variable 'var' right?
[05:50] <xerophyte> ls
[05:50] <Danzor> Something I'm following requires me to do: "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[05:51] <variant> Danzor: use nano -w inplace of gedit
[05:51] <variant> Danzor: if your using a terminal and use sudo instead of gksudo
[05:51] <dredhammer> PriceChild, variant the error it gives me is video codec Theora is not handled
[05:52] <dredhammer> according to synaptic both libogg and libvorbis are installed
[05:53] <djieno> wols, it this what you meant with network line missing: network network_address       Network address (dotted quad) required for 2.0.x kernels
[05:53] <titanix88> hello PriceChild : we meet again.
[05:53] <greyfrog> dredhammer: you make sure you have theora? try apt-get install libtheora0
[05:53] <Azhi_Dahaka> hi
[05:54] <Azhi_Dahaka> i installed ubuntu 7.0 but i can't get my sound to work
[05:54] <waspius> any ideas?
[05:54] <PriceChild> !sound | Azhi_Dahaka
[05:54] <ubotu> Azhi_Dahaka: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[05:54] <dredhammer> says libtheora0 is installed
[05:55] <elYase> hello i want a script to run commands on ssh server but i want the script to run locally because of GUI is not installed on server, i also need the output of ssh server commands in order to control execution of the local script, how can i organize all this?
[05:55] <variant> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2  Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2). Whats with that?
[05:55] <elYase> #bash
[05:55] <greyfrog> dredhammer: ack.  not sure then....  could try to reconfigure the media player.  what was it again?
[05:55] <piedoggie> any pointers on how to produce bootable loopback file images and how to mount that image?
[05:55] <PriceChild> elYase, so you want to run a gui app on a remote system?
[05:56] <RedACE> I'm curious, are the support prices listed here per machine for all machines we'd run ubtunu on? http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[05:56] <piedoggie> elYase  I think you need to use exppevt or something like it
[05:56] <elYase> PriceChild, no, there is no GUI on server, yes on local machine,
[05:56] <greyfrog> dredhammer: try to install the gstreamer plugin for theora as well... sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-theora
[05:56] <piedoggie> expect I mean
[05:56] <PriceChild> elYase, you "could" forward x by doing ssh -X... but that's slow and there are better ways
[05:56] <elYase> piedoggie, something more about it?
[05:57] <elYase> PriceChild, ssh -X cant be done
[05:57] <brimiles> sorry complete linux newb here.... can you use any windows apps on linux?  i'm only really worried about yahoo music engine for my music
[05:57] <PriceChild> !netsplit
[05:57] <LjL> !netsplit
[05:57] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:57] <dredhammer> ok greyfrog
[05:57] <piedoggie> expect is a tool for injecting keystrokes and gathering  responses
[05:57] <greyfrog> dredhammer: or libtheora-bin... if you can't tell, I'm grasping at strwas here ;P
[05:57] <piedoggie> you can associate action with the responses
[05:58] <djieno> wols, you're still here?
[05:58] <tavl_> anyone has a guess my ubuntu is accessing many https pages except those from Last.fm? =S
[05:58] <piedoggie> http://expect.nist.gov/
[05:58] <piedoggie> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expect
[05:58] <dredhammer> ok this is weird now it plays ogg audio but not ogm files
[05:59] <piedoggie> elYase: does that help?
[05:59] <brimiles> so would anyone have any idea how i could run yahoo music engine on ubuntu?
[05:59] <dyrne> brimiles: you can use wine to run some apps not sure about your yahoo thing. try searching winehq.com  for your app and see what others are running into
[05:59] <dr_willis> brimiles,  im not even sure many of us know what yahoomusic engine is.
[06:00] <wols_> djieno: yes. netsplit. freenode server timed out. I already told you what you have to do
[06:00] <stefg> tavl_: just checked... last.fm seems to be down
[06:00] <dyrne> brimiles: what does it do? maybe we can suggest an alternate application
[06:00] <brimiles> ok, it's like an itunes type thing for legally listening to music on a monthly subscription... i'll look into it on that site
[06:00] <Azhi_Dahaka> i tried the alsa page but i can't find my audio card
[06:00] <piedoggie> musicc rental
[06:00] <brimiles> it's a subscription service through yahoo i'm pretty sure there's no alternate apps
[06:00] <tavl_> stefg: ok, let me see too...
[06:00] <djieno> wols, sorry but i don't understand what to do, man page interfaces and google is what i looked at but im in the dark
[06:00] <piedoggie> you spend money and have nothing you can keep at t
[06:01] <piedoggie> the end of the month??
[06:01] <stefg> tavl_: if you're not logged in, you get a page, but my dashboard doesn't work either
[06:01] <gravemind> hey does anybody know why som many  people had to quit and re enter?
[06:01] <PriceChild> gravemind, server death
[06:01] <Myrtti> it was netsplit
[06:01] <wols_> gravemind: netsplit
[06:01] <gravemind> something with freenode
[06:01] <Myrtti> the connection between two servers broke
[06:01] <gravemind> ?
[06:01] <stefg> !netsplit > gravemind
[06:01] <LjL> let's keep to the topic, shall we?
[06:02] <gravemind> alright : )
[06:02] <wols_> djieno: add a line "network 10.0.0.0" to your eth1 stanza
[06:02] <tavl_> stefg: have you ever tried this on your ubuntu or first time trying to get to the login/dashboard page?
[06:02] <dyrne> brimiles:  you might check out seamless desktop that basically runs xp virtually and lets you open apps in their own windows looking as if they are native. it connects to the virtual xp using rdesktop
[06:02] <dyrne> brimiles: i think
[06:02] <thirdy> nice, I'm using bitchx
[06:02] <djieno> wols, ill do that ill put in both
[06:02] <djieno> wols, server 1 and 2
[06:02] <wols_> djieno: yes. and restart your eth1 too on both
[06:02] <stefg> tavl_: i use iton a regular basis, and it works... it seems a last.fm problem atm, not yours (or mine :-) )
[06:03] <LjL> !netsplit
[06:03] <brimiles> dyrne: the app is called seamless desktop?
[06:03] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[06:03] <sergiu> hello
[06:03] <Lilacor> netjoin
[06:03] <Lilacor> nice
[06:03] <sergiu> how to install vlc?
[06:03] <djieno> wols, allright i do that right away
[06:03] <Lilacor> sergiu: use your synpatic package manager
[06:03] <excalibas> I suclesfully connectred my xp box to my xubuntu box, i am very happy, and i want to thank dr_willis, dfwlinuxguy, and rococo for the pacience and help!
[06:03] <LjL> sergiu: enable Universe, and then type "sudo apt-get install vlc"
[06:03] <Yggdrasil> hello, anyone here good wit laptop power stuff under feisty ?
[06:03] <stefg> !install > sergiu
[06:03] <Azhi_Dahaka> guys.. i can't find my soundcard on the alsa page
[06:03] <magnetron> sergiu: in "add/remove applications"
[06:03] <dyrne> brimiles: yeah. its basically qemu to run xp then a script to launch the app like internet explorer in its own rdesktop window
[06:03] <excalibas> +
[06:03] <excalibas> +
[06:03] <tavl_> stefg: i, at this moment, can access the main page and even the login screen... but i'm getting "timeout"s before the hit the profile screen... =S...
[06:04] <johnschroeder> sipior: you still there?
[06:04] <PriceChild> Azhi_Dahaka, that would be a good indicator that its not supported... what card is it?
[06:04] <Azhi_Dahaka> it's an onboard card
[06:04] <BlammO> hi again , i need some help  with ubuntu server 7.04.. somebody  install  on HP PROLIANT ML150 G2, somebody have any problem with the RAID driver ? in the ubuntu-es nobody say me anything
[06:04] <budacsik> sergiu: sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:04] <stefg> tavl_: one more proof it's last.fm
[06:04] <PriceChild> Azhi_Dahaka, pastebin "lspci" for someone to look at
[06:04] <Azhi_Dahaka> i can't find the manufacturer of the audio card
[06:04] <BrokenSeo> popo
[06:05] <dyrne> brimiles: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo never used it myself
[06:05] <tavl_> stefg: i'm not sure, but i think it's the same reason why none of my scrobbler capable apps are scrobbling my musics... looks like timeout to login... =S
[06:05] <magnetron> !paste > Azhi_Dahaka
[06:05] <Azhi_Dahaka> where can i paste it?
[06:05] <PriceChild> Azhi_Dahaka, see ubotu's pm
[06:05] <brimiles> thanks a lot guys
[06:05] <Yggdrasil> hello, anyone here good wit laptop power stuff under feisty ? i disabled acpi under services, and rebooted, i reenabled it and rebooted and now all my power stuff has no battery stuff.
[06:06] <stefg> Azhi_Dahaka: lspci | grep audio
[06:06] <BrokenSeo> !paste > BrokenSeo
[06:06] <piedoggie> I'm still looking for tools to help me build  bootable  flash memory images.  any suggestions?
[06:06] <Azhi_Dahaka> stefg: that shows nothing
[06:06] <Azhi_Dahaka> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23604/
[06:06] <tavl_> stefg: i have a windows machine, right here by my side, and i can login/scrobble everything from there... =S... so, is it really a last.fm problem? =S
[06:06] <sergiu> most deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty-backports main restricted universe multiverse be enabled to install vlc?
[06:07] <sergiu> becouse a don't want to enable this repo
[06:07] <LjL> sergiu: no. that's the backports repository - not what you want
[06:07] <LjL> sergiu: you need to enable universe in the *feisty*, not feisty-backports, repository.
[06:07] <LjL> !repos > sergiu    (sergiu, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:07] <BrokenSeo> how can i find an howto to use beagle?
[06:07] <Azhi_Dahaka> found it with the lspci trick
[06:07] <djieno> wols, see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23605/  pasted this in both and /etc/init.d/networking restart ....but still nor reply on a ping to 10.0.0.2 from server1
[06:07] <stefg> tavl_: hmmm.... could be a cache thing
[06:08] <magnetron> piedoggie: did you see this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[06:08] <stefg> tavl_: but i still think it#s last.fm (they constantly have load problems)
[06:08] <piedoggie> I'm working with CompactFlash but I'll take a look
[06:08] <magnetron> djieno: it shouldn't say xx
[06:09] <udusu> I don't have sound on my Toshiba L30 - 113, what should I do or install?
[06:09] <dyrne> !sound | udusu
[06:09] <ubotu> udusu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:09] <Tiradin> Damnit... i'm still trying to figure out that bloody Amarok stuff.
[06:09] <budacsik> sergiu: enable to all repo in source.list file
[06:09] <magnetron> piedoggie: otherwise you may have use of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[06:10] <sergiu> budacsik done
[06:10] <alumnos> helloooooooooooo
[06:10] <djieno> wols, did that too
[06:10] <alumnos> alguien q hable espaol
[06:10] <tavl_> stefg: what you mean by "cache thing"?! if its anything related to Firefox, i wouldn't agree, as i have tested it with lynx and a another text-based browser (which name a don't remember)
[06:10] <Heptofite> How do i configure my system to play apple lossless?
[06:10] <budacsik> sergiu: and apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[06:10] <wapa> ola
[06:10] <LjL> !es | wapa
[06:10] <ubotu> wapa: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:10] <wapa> ola
[06:10] <wapa> ola
[06:11] <djieno> magnetron, i know it isn't only somehow paranoid
[06:11] <budacsik> and install vlc is ko
[06:11] <piedoggie> I should probably fess up.  I'm trying to build flash images of IP cop from my ubuntu system.  I can do it if I go to a fair amount of error-prone process with qemu
[06:11] <udusu> dyrne: I've got a laptop, I was looking on those websites but with no luck...
[06:11] <sergiu> when i try to install vlc with add/remove i got Cannot install "vlc" This applications conflicts with other installed software
[06:11] <waspius> can someone tell me where i can find the option for changing my splash screnn?
[06:11] <LjL> sergiu: pastebin your current sources.list please.
[06:11] <sergiu> To install "vlc" you must remove conflicting software
[06:11] <sergiu> LjL: sec.
[06:11] <BrokenSeo> ciao
[06:11] <magnetron> sergiu: what does it conflict with?
[06:11] <piedoggie> I'm trying to do it outside of qemu but unfortunately, lomount seems to have vanished and it's difficult to create loopback file images with partitions
[06:11] <sergiu> !pastbin > sergiu
[06:11] <dyrne> udusu: ive had a few toshiba laptops but never really had a problem with em. sound is usually automatically setup
[06:11] <greyfrog> !usplash | waspius
[06:11] <ubotu> waspius: To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[06:12] <djieno> magnetron, eth0 is fine, reachable from outside, my concern is eth1 connected to the croos connection with the other server
[06:12] <LjL> !it | BrokenSeo
[06:12] <ubotu> BrokenSeo: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:12] <sergiu>  Depends: vlc-nox but it is not going to be installed
[06:12] <sergiu>  Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>=1.2.5) but it is not installable
[06:12] <BrokenSeo> cool
[06:12] <piedoggie> and it's even more difficult to mount them without lomouont
[06:12] <waspius> greyfrog: thank you
[06:12] <wols_> djieno: unplug the cable. plug it back in. then "dmesg" and see if eth1 shows up
[06:12] <greyfrog> waspius: no prob :)
[06:12] <djieno> cannot do that.. it is in a data center in amsterdam i am at home
[06:12] <budacsik> sergiu: you work in terminal
[06:13] <udusu> dyrne: weird, do you have any more ideas or something?
[06:13] <piedoggie> s/lomouont/lomount/
[06:13] <sergiu> budacsik: terminal says :
[06:13] <sergiu> The following packages are BROKEN:
[06:13] <sergiu>   libavcodec0d libavformat0d vlc vlc-nox
[06:13] <budacsik> sergiu: you install the libsdl-image1.2
[06:13] <wols_> !paste | sergiu
[06:13] <ubotu> sergiu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:13] <imonsei> hello. I just installed ubuntu (yes I know, I'm absolutely fabulous)
[06:13] <LjL> sergiu, please don't paste in multiple lines. post your sources.list to the pastebin instead.
[06:14] <sergiu> LjL sec.
[06:14] <stefg> tavl_: so what i can tell is that i've got the same same problem,,, last-exit works, but i can't log in. who knows what they did with their site
[06:15] <sergiu> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23606/
[06:16] <BrokenSeo> are private chat allowed here?
[06:16] <RedACE> No. Chat where the FBI can see you.
[06:16] <stefg> !pm
[06:16] <djieno> wols, dmesh | grep eth0 give "up", and few other thins; dmesg | grep eht1 give not only no ipv6 routers present
[06:16] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[06:16] <tavl_> stefg: i'm using ubuntu 7.04... a friend, with the previous version, could login at a time i couldn't... i thought about missing packages, but found no logic in this, as there isn't something like "https-package".. =S... 
[06:16] <wols_> djieno: dmesg. and where did I say anything about grep?
[06:16] <imonsei> question: does xfce have an app similar to kde's katapult?
[06:17] <BrokenSeo> does FBI use linux?
[06:17] <LjL> sergiu: try this one, for a starting (you didn't have feisty-updates for universe and multiverse): http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23608/ - type  sudo apt-get update  after changing it.
[06:17] <LjL> BrokenSeo: how is this on topic?
[06:17] <RedACE> The Department of Homeland Security apparently uses windows and doesn't patch their machines very often..
[06:17] <udusu> I don't have sound on my Toshiba L30 - 113 laptop, anyway I have the volume up to 100%. Can someone give me a link or something please?
[06:17] <LjL> BrokenSeo: private messages can be sent if you register.
[06:17] <BrokenSeo> ok
[06:17] <necrite_> hi all
[06:17] <sergiu> LjL: thanks
[06:18] <BrokenSeo> thank, some problems with my english
[06:18] <djieno> wols, i can be miles long without me able to see it. if forgot the command to stop at page length
[06:18] <wols_> djieno: you don#t need it. if you do what I tell you, the info you want is at the end of the output, if there is any at all
[06:18] <preaction> djieno: pipe through "pg" or "more" or "less"
[06:18] <djieno> preaction thans
[06:19] <necrite_> anyone knows why the package php5-syck it is not in feisty repo
[06:19] <djieno> wols, sorry i ' ll obey :-)
[06:20] <sergiu> LjL: i have updated the repo and got the same error messages
[06:20] <djieno> wols, see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23609/
[06:20] <dyrne> udusu: sorry man im at work. probably not going to be alot of help right now
[06:20] <mildner_> is there help for wlan available
[06:20] <djieno> wols, this is the end of my dmesg
[06:20] <dyrne> udusu: if you see crimsun here he is very good w/ sound issues
[06:21] <stefg> tavl_: so i fired up my windows-vm to check, and i can't log in neither
[06:21] <LjL> sergiu: pastebin the output of  apt-cache policy libsdl-image1.2  and of  apt-cache policy vlc-nox 
[06:21] <udusu> dyrne: ok, don't worry. It seems that no one from here is inter
[06:22] <wols_> djieno: are those new ethernet cards PCI or ISA?
[06:22] <sergiu> LjL: sec
[06:22] <djieno> wols, pci both 3com / 3x509x drivers
[06:22] <mildner_> please is there any help for WLAN
[06:23] <LjL> !wifi > mildner_    (mildner_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:23] <djieno> wols, eth0 is onboard nvidia
[06:23] <sergiu> LjL; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23610/
[06:23] <tavl_> stefg: i think ill test it all a bit later... have a job to finish... anyway, thnks for the help... i'll look for your help here, later, ok?
[06:23] <stefg> tavl_: it's last.fm's fault, believe me
[06:23] <djieno> wols, server 1 and server 1 are identical configurations, mobo, proc, and eht1 cards
[06:23] <wols_> djieno: why is eth0 bridged with anything?
[06:24] <wols_> djieno: do your servers have a firewall? are there are services run on the servers?
[06:24] <djieno> wols, probably with vmware server which is running on both servers
[06:24] <LjL> sergiu: very, very weird. libsdl-image1.2 is in main, so you should most definitely have it available. (besides, don't use "sudo su" - use "sudo -i" if you really feel you have to get a root login)
[06:25] <jimmykarily> ?
[06:25] <LjL> sergiu: doesn't  sudo apt-get update  give you any errors or warnings?
[06:25] <djieno> wols, iptables on eth0, vmware server service
[06:25] <sergiu> LjL one
[06:26] <sergiu> pastebin?
[06:26] <LjL> sergiu: yes please
[06:26] <djieno> wols, i tried it at home with my asus feisty connected to a crosscable to server 2 and everything worked fine. But i guess the return path is the problem. My laptop had only one ethcard at that time
[06:26] <Yggdrasil> hello, anyone here good wit laptop power stuff under feisty ? i disabled acpi under services, and rebooted, i reenabled it and rebooted and now all my power stuff has no battery stuff.
[06:26] <wols_> djieno: iptables is not interface specific usually. especially not its policy
[06:26] <wols_> djieno: and if the route is set properly on bot, there is no problem
[06:27] <sergiu> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23612/
[06:27] <wols_> *on both
[06:27] <LjL> sergiu: oh, yes, that is quite a problem.
[06:27] <oxdot> hi guys ... any body have some link for docs on cf cards gsm/gprs modems (audiovox rtm8000) ?
[06:27] <tavl_> stefg: well, maybe YOUR case is a last.fm problem... if it's is mine too, then i'm the luckless one, as i'm trying to put those things (scrobblers) to work for a month... =S... i've tested everything, from rythmbox to amarok...
[06:27] <wols_> djieno: so is there any service run on one of your 2 servers?
[06:27] <djieno> wols, i think that is the problem. since it worked testing from my laptop to server2 i guessed i should worked fine connecting server 1
[06:28] <LjL> would could the error  gzip: stdin: not in gzip format | Err http://md.archive.ubuntu.com feisty/main Packages | Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)  mean during an apt-get update?
[06:28] <djieno> wols, same services. it is meant to be an failover for server1
[06:28] <sergiu> LjL: yes
[06:28] <stefg> Yggdrasil: does lsmod | grep battery come up with anything?
[06:28] <wols_> I asked you which one. answer my qeustion
[06:28] <necrite_> php5-syck package gone???
[06:28] <sergiu> LjL: sec
[06:29] <wols_> necrite_: packages.ubuntu.com will know
[06:29] <sergiu> LjL;
[06:29] <djieno> wols, i only use vmware server on both servers, and the vm's provide the services. So on host os at server 1 and 2 only the vmware gui
[06:29] <sergiu> LjL: when apt-get i got eror
[06:29] <Yggdrasil> stefg, hold on let me check
[06:29] <sergiu> apt-get update
[06:29] <BrokenSeo> ciao a tutti
[06:29] <themoomin> Hello
[06:29] <LjL> sergiu, i understood that.
[06:30] <LjL> necrite_: i don't see "php5-synk" existing in Edgy or Dapper, either.
[06:30] <wols_> djieno: sudo netstat -anp |grep LIST
[06:30] <Yggdrasil> stefg yes it does
[06:30] <wols_> paste that
[06:30] <themoomin> I have a question of the grub bootloader
[06:30] <LjL> sergiu, i'm not sure, but try changing mirrors. change the "md." in your sources.list to something else
[06:30] <sergiu> LjL: there it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23615/
[06:30] <Yggdrasil> battery                10756  0
[06:30] <vali_> hello is there any way to make a gdm session use a non-standard xorg.conf-file like xorg.conf.noXGL ???
[06:30] <Yggdrasil> but under the power options i only have listed ac
[06:30] <necrite_> LjL, :S in deeper the package exist
[06:30] <LjL> !info php5-synk dapper | necrite_
[06:30] <ubotu> necrite_: Package php5-synk does not exist in dapper
[06:31] <sergiu> Failed to fetch http://md.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[06:31] <LjL> sergiu: you gave me the error twice already.
[06:31] <LjL> and you can see i've just asked for information about it in this channel.
[06:31] <themoomin> i have a pc with an intel pentium 3 processor, 256 megs of ram , a 20 gb hd and a very old motherboard. I intend to load xubuntu and puppy linux, but the grub bootloader will not recognise puppy. can somebody help me?
[06:31] <sergiu> LjL: this is another error
[06:31] <necrite_> LjL, mmmm now what?
[06:31] <necrite_> :S
[06:31] <stefg> Yggdrasil: so the kernel module is loaded. i wonder what would stop it fom working, should not be the fact that you once booted with acpi=off
[06:31] <suyog> I've got a question please. How do i make it to auto answer yes when running a command? like, do u want to replace abc.bin? [y] /[n] 
[06:32] <djieno> wols, your not asking me to past my listening ports are you ?
[06:32] <LjL> necrite_: how do i know, i don't even know what that package is supposed to be. i just know it's not been available in the past three versions of ubuntu.
[06:32] <sergiu> LjL: ok, i'll change the .md
[06:32] <Yggdrasil> stefg, i know its strange huh, you know what im talking about , under the power options control panel, it only says ac power
[06:32] <LjL> sergiu: md. not .md
[06:32] <wols_> djieno: I do
[06:32] <leagris> are there any way of building versatile UI outside of code and be working in GTK or Ncurses regardless of it launched within X or on console only?
[06:32] <LjL> sergiu: change it to se. for example
[06:32] <Yggdrasil> stefg that is all i did was disable taht service..
[06:32] <suyog>  I've got a question please. How do i make it to auto answer yes when running a command? like, do u want to replace abc.bin? [y] /[n] 
[06:32] <Yggdrasil> stefg. i tried to make a new user and go in under it to see if it would reenable it, it didnt
[06:33] <sergiu> LjL: understood
[06:33] <preaction> suyog: that all depends on the command, read man <command>. sometimes it
[06:33] <djieno> wols, i guess this isn't wise to post but i feel secure enough
[06:33] <Heptofite> HEY i need to make the gsynaptics program for my synaptics touchpad work HELP please?
[06:33] <LjL> suyog: "man yes"
[06:33] <preaction> suyog: sometimes it's -y, sometimes -f
[06:33] <jhaig> suyog: There is a command called "yes" that returns a string of 'y's.  Use "yes | <your command>"
[06:33] <Yggdrasil> so whatevers on power management prefecenes has only on ac power and general
[06:33] <wols_> djieno: if this machine is reachable from the internet. your open ports are public knowledge. if it isn't on the itnernet, no one can reach you
[06:33] <suyog> thanks!! :-)
[06:33] <djieno> wols, you know where to look
[06:34] <stefg> Yggdrasil: might be something on the GUI-level, not kernel level. Luckily my old trusty Compaq notebook works just out of the box since dapper, so i had not to troubleshoot anything.
[06:34] <wols_> djieno: I asked you waht serviecs you run, you didn't answer, so you listing all open ports is the only way
[06:34] <Yggdrasil> stefg thaks then
[06:34] <Yggdrasil> its somethign on the gui for sure
[06:34] <LjL> suyog: careful with that.
[06:34] <wols_> djieno: cause right now I think iptables blocks the pings
[06:34] <Yggdrasil> because if i set an applet up there ,t he battery applet its showing ac,
[06:34] <Yggdrasil> hell i dont knwo
[06:34] <djieno> wols, you have seen the pastebin?
[06:34] <Lunar_Lamp> Is there a program to count the number of keystrokes I make?
[06:34] <suyog> LjL, yes, i will be careful. i have nothing to lose :-)
[06:34] <Yggdrasil> screw it the battery on this thing sucks bad anyway
[06:34] <gordonjcp> Blocking ICMP is bad
[06:35] <LjL> !language | Yggdrasil
[06:35] <ubotu> Yggdrasil: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:35] <oxdot> themoomin: you must locate the puppy (???) partition and indicate to grub (/boot/grub/menu.lst) where to find the boot image and the (puppy) root partition ...
[06:35] <djieno> wols, howcome in the test from my laptop to server 2 the iptables firewall wasn't making any trouble, if you follow me
[06:36] <LjL> !info xmacro | Lunar_Lamp, this could possibly be adapted for what you want.
[06:36] <EADG__> Lunar_Lamp: search Synaptic or type 'apt-cache search <search string>' in a terminal :)
[06:36] <kazim59> hello... i want to compress some project reports (text and source codes) as effeciently as possible... what compresson to use? (gotta send it over the net)
[06:36] <aib> how do I access the amount of memory used, who is using the most memory, and the amount of cpu utilization, from the command line?
[06:36] <ubotu> lunar_lamp, this could possibly be adapted for what you want.: xmacro: Record / Play keystrokes and mouse movements in X displays. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3pre-20000911-4 (feisty), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:36] <spacey> does someone know how to copy something to another volume but keep the hardlinks
[06:36] <djieno> wols, i could check that by enable ping respond. but i could ping both ways in my laptop test at home
[06:36] <Lunar_Lamp> EADG__, I know how to search, but nothing initially came up ;-)
[06:36] <stefg> kazim59: bz2 is most efficient for text
[06:36] <LjL> EADG__: that is useful advice.
[06:36] <wols_> djieno: that I dunno actually. but you're free to troubleshoot on your oen
[06:36] <wols_> *wn
[06:37] <kazim59> stefg: thats right.... one project had movie files too... for that?
[06:37] <djieno> wols, hehe i guess so :-)
[06:37] <stefg> kazim59: movies are precrompressed... no use in compressing them again
[06:37] <kazim59> stefg: thanks ...
[06:38] <fuffal0> if i want rc.local to run everytime the system boots up, where do i put rc.local?
[06:38] <LjL> fuffal0: in /etc
[06:38] <LjL> !boot > fuffal0    (fuffal0, see the private message from Ubotu)
[06:38] <wols_> djieno: troubleshooting over irc is hard and often incomplete. we don't have direct access to your machine (and we shouldn't). so irc isn't exactly the best medium for it in the world
[06:39] <aMMuNix> any way to set a launcher's icon size to a specific size? I mean without using the little resizing squares
[06:39] <djieno> wols, i could grand you an vlc connection
[06:39] <wols_> djieno: no you could not
[06:39] <wols_> doing so would be a stupid thing. imho
[06:39] <suyog> I'm trying to apply a patch to the kernel, and it keeps on asking Assume -R? [n]   what does that mean?
[06:39] <sergiu> LjL: now its works
[06:40] <fuffal0> LjL, I have rc.local in /etc/ and it's not running - could the permissions be wrong?
[06:40] <EADG__> Lunar_Lamp: I found this on a apt-cache search for "key logger"  lkl - userspace keylogger for x86 architecture
[06:40] <wols_> never ever let strangers from irc on your box at all. ever
[06:40] <LjL> sergiu, you can *probably* (i'm not entirely sure) put the md. back now.
[06:40] <udusu> can someone help me to find out the problem with my toshiba L30 - 113 laptop. I don't have sound, even though I have the volume 100%.
[06:40] <RedACE> don't listen to wols_
[06:40] <Lunar_Lamp> EADG__, yeah, i guess I could use that, though I don't really want to log the keys pressed.
[06:40] <RedACE> give me access
[06:40] <LjL> oh yes, i forgot about lkl
[06:40] <RedACE> ;)
[06:40] <sergiu> LjL: i renamed .md with .us
[06:40] <stefg> sound | udusu
[06:41] <stefg> !sound > udusu
[06:41] <sergiu> LjL: to put the md. back?
[06:41] <djieno> wols, eeehm why not? I can offert you this, and see what you type to my server through ssh, or did you mean it like it is not safe to let somebody do that ?
[06:41] <suyog> Please help. I'm trying to apply a patch to the kernel, and it keeps on asking Assume -R? [n]   what does that mean?
[06:41] <LjL> sergiu: if you want
[06:41] <nico__> hello
[06:41] <EADG__> Lunar_Lamp: Maybe you could pass the log file through cat to get a word/charecter count.
[06:41] <sergiu> LjL: but i can download vlc now
[06:41] <nico__> how do i get the compiz thing working
[06:41] <Lunar_Lamp> EADG__, yeah, exactly what I was thinking :-)
[06:41] <gravemind> hey, I configured lm_sensors like how it says here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2780, but all the sensors command gives me is the temperature of the CPU
[06:41] <gravemind> how can I get more sensors?
[06:42] <LjL> sergiu: yes, i'm just saying that i *think* using md. will now work, too, and if it is faster for you, you can try putting it back
[06:42] <ipx> How can I make my user own a folder?
[06:42] <stefg> suyog: man patch
[06:42] <jrib> ipx: chown
[06:42] <suyog> :-)
[06:42] <djieno> wols, i can see what you type, if i don't like it i ll kick you out. quite simple
[06:42] <oxdot> ... nobody with some compact flash hardware knowledge (pcmcia) (audiovox modem) ?
[06:42] <sergiu> LjL: will not work... i'm not very sure
[06:42] <aMMuNix> any way to set a launcher's icon size to a specific size? I mean without using the little resizing squares
[06:43] <elYase>  if i do ssh user@hostname ls | grep ... the command grep is run locally or in the ssh serve?
[06:43] <sergiu> becouse few minutes ago the md. was not warking possible now too
[06:43] <djieno> wols, a person could only have reading capabilities nothing to worry about
[06:43] <stefg> elYase: on the server
[06:43] <gravemind> ipx: chown -R youruser:youruser /directory. the -R will make you own everyhing inside the folder too
[06:43] <LjL> Lunar_Lamp, EADG__: however it doesn't seem like lkl can output to stdout, as far as i can see. xmacro can though
[06:43] <LjL> xmacro won't log non-X keystrokes of course, on the other hand
[06:43] <Lunar_Lamp> LjL, I'll have a look :-)
[06:44] <gravemind> elYase: if you did that you'd have two commands on one line
[06:44] <EightEleven> oxdot: compact flash and pcmcia are different techniques afaik.
[06:44] <fuffal0> so if i have a /etc/rc.local file and it's not running at startup - what am i doing wrong?  The only thing I can think of are permissions but it's green when i do an ls, so I assume those are ok
[06:44] <EightEleven> What are you trying to do?
[06:44] <cox377> is there a terminal based app that would show things like CPU heat / fan speeds etc?
[06:44] <stefg> fuffal0: is it executable  (chmod +x) ?
[06:44] <ipx> gravemind: worked! thanks alot!
[06:44] <LjL> fuffal0: do you have a /etc/init.d/rc.local file?
[06:45] <oxdot> EightEleven: in fact they differ in connectic, but not really in technic ...
[06:45] <Intertricity> How do I make it so that I can double click on a bash script on my desktop to run it?
[06:45] <gravemind> ipx: cool!
[06:45] <jrib> Intertricity: make it executable
[06:45] <Intertricity> I did
[06:45] <fuffal0> LjL - no i do not have a /etc/init.d/rc.local
[06:45] <yrlnry> Is there some web site that collects reports of people who try to get linux running on various hardware so that I can get a sense of "well, if you own a Sony Wuggo T-35 you won't have any trouble, but if you get the Compaq SmartSlice 5300 you will be in for a world of hurt because the video chip is not supported."  ??
[06:45] <Intertricity> chmod 755 right?
[06:45] <elYase> stefg, gravemind fuck they gave another answer on other places
[06:45] <jrib> Intertricity: that should work, now when you double click it should ask you if you want to run it
[06:45] <LjL> !language | elYase
[06:45] <zabin> Are there any linux programs that let me extract or burn .uif files?
[06:45] <fuffal0> stefg - to make them executable can't i chmod them to 644?
[06:45] <ubotu> elYase: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:46] <sergiu> LjL: i don't want to change md. back couz .us is working fine and there is not changes in speed
[06:46] <sergiu> ;)
[06:46] <Intertricity> jrib: Yeah.. it says its executable.. but it still opens with a text editor.
[06:46] <stefg> !hardware | yrlnry
[06:46] <ubotu> yrlnry: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[06:46] <LjL> fuffal0: type "sudo apt-get --reinstall install initscripts"
[06:46] <yrlnry> thanks.
[06:46] <elYase> LjL, ubotu i paologize
[06:46] <jrib> Intertricity: what is inside? (use pastebin)
[06:46] <zabin> Are there any linux programs that let me extract or burn .uif files?
[06:46] <djieno> wols, gone fishing ? or not wanting to continue ?
[06:46] <moquist> I'm trying to PXE boot with a NFS root rsynced off a running Feisty LiveCD. I can't seem to get the NFS root mounted properly; I have these kernel parameters: "append vga=normal initrd=initrd boot=casper netboot=nfs nfsroot=10.20.1.2:/opt/ltsp/edubuntu-desktop". Any advice, anyone?
[06:46] <EightEleven> oxdot: I thought the Compact Flash was similar to IDE/ATA
[06:46] <fuffal0> LjL - is that going to overwrite any of my files?
[06:46] <aMMuNix> any way to set a launcher's icon size to a specific size? I mean without using the little resizing squares
[06:46] <LjL> fuffal0: it really shouldn
[06:47] <LjL> fuffal0: or at the very least, it will ask you before doing it
[06:47] <stefg> fuffal0: yeah, but a simply sudo chmd +x /etc/init.d/rc.local will do it as well
[06:47] <wols_> I still wait for answers
[06:47] <Danzor> I'm trying to configure a wireless network on Ubuntu, and the help files tell me to go to "Places -> Network Servers"
[06:47] <gravemind> elYase: what's the problem?
[06:47] <zabin> Are there any linux programs that let me extract or burn .uif files?
[06:47] <Danzor> But there is no "Network Servers" option under that menu
[06:47] <yurimxpxman> I just installed apache and php, but the web browser wants to download the PHP file instead of view it. What's up with tis?
[06:48] <yurimxpxman> *this
[06:48] <Badzo> zabin: isn't k3b working?
[06:48] <LjL> stefg, he said he doesn't have an /etc/init.d/rc.local
[06:48] <zabin> yuriman: you need to download apache2-mod-php] 
[06:48] <Heptofite> HEY i need to make the gsynaptics program for my synaptics touchpad work HELP please?
[06:48] <sheilajr> ola
[06:48] <djieno> wols, cannot see your questions
[06:48] <Intertricity> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23618/
[06:48] <zabin> badzo: nope
[06:48] <Danzor> And somewhere else in the help file it mentions "Networking" under "Administration" but it's not under there
[06:48] <gravemind> Danzor: what exactly are you trying to set up?
[06:48] <LjL> !es | sheilajr
[06:48] <ubotu> sheilajr: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:48] <Danzor> A wireless network
[06:48] <sheilajr> hello!!!!!!!
[06:48] <LjL> !hi
[06:48] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:48] <stefg> LjL: oh.... then /that/ 's probably the reason it is not executed :-)
[06:49] <gravemind> Heptofite: did you try searching the forum?
[06:49] <LjL> stefg: it's two different files
[06:49] <wols_> 18:27 < wols_> djieno: so is there any service run on one of your 2 servers?
[06:49] <sheilajr> jgfjhor
[06:49] <sheilajr> mmmhjjt
[06:49] <LjL> stefg: there is /etc/rc.local which is the user-editable file, and /etc/init.d/rc.local which is the init script that calls it
[06:49] <Heptofite> gravemind, im on 56k, it would take ages, also, i just need to know where i need to modify the x config
[06:50] <stefg> LjL: thx for the education, never messed really with that
[06:50] <deitarion> Does anyone know of a set of 1.3-series Audacious Media Player .debs I could install on my brother's machine? (I run Gentoo) 1.2 is end-of-lifed by the upstream devs. (Ironically, 1.3 was released less than a week after the Feisty freeze)
[06:50] <navets> hey how come I cant watch videos off nba.com? i have flash player installed...
[06:50] <jrib> Intertricity: that works fine here, what does this command return:  file ~/Desktop/name_of_your_script.sh && ls -l ~/Desktop/name_of_your_script.sh
[06:50] <djieno> wols, did you see the output of  netstat -anp | grep LIST in the pastebin earlier?
[06:50] <gravemind> Heptofite: if I remember right, searching the internet on 56k doesn't take too long. you'll probably have better luck searching there than asking in here, where probably very few people have heard of the program you're trying to use
[06:51] <oxdot> EightEleven: pcmcia/ata ...
[06:51] <Heptofite> gravemind, its a synaptics touchpad utility, everybody with a laptop should have at least HEARD of it
[06:51] <wols_> djieno: no
[06:51] <gravemind> Heptofite: oh, by the way, did you order that feisty cd?
[06:51] <Heptofite> gravemind, no, i downloaded it at work
[06:51] <wols_> you are not identified to services so you cannot /msg on this network
[06:52] <djieno> i ll post them again and provide the link allright ?
[06:52] <wols_> sure
[06:52] <gravemind> Heptofite: : )
[06:52] <navets> what plugin is  (video
[06:52] <wols_> but either identifiy to services or do it in channel
[06:52] <zabin> Are there any linux programs that let me extract or burn .uif files?
[06:52] <gravemind> Heptofite: I'll search for you
[06:52] <navets> what plugin is  (video/x-ms-asf)
[06:52] <wols_> navets: w32codecs. possibly mplayer can watch it out of the box
[06:52] <deitarion> navets: Probably mplayerplug-in
[06:52] <stefg> !w32codecs > navets
[06:53] <Intertricity> -rwxr-xr-x 1 raz raz 83 2007-06-01 12:44 /home/raz/Desktop/LuckyChannel
[06:53] <Intertricity> jrib: -rwxr-xr-x 1 raz raz 83 2007-06-01 12:44 /home/raz/Desktop/LuckyChannel
[06:53] <deitarion> That is, if you want to watch embedded web video.
[06:53] <paotzu> wow dell has an ubuntu logo on their front apge
[06:53] <djieno> wols, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23620/
[06:53] <zabin> sudo chmod 777 /*
[06:53] <navets> thanks
[06:53] <zabin> jk
[06:53] <Intertricity> jrib: It runs fine when I run it from console, it goes fullscreen and everything, but it just doesn't do it when I double dlick.
[06:53] <jrib> Intertricity: try restarting nautilus
[06:53] <jrib> Intertricity: try pressinf F5 on your desktop first (not sure if this works)
[06:53] <gravemind> Heptofite: you said you need to know how to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, right?
[06:54] <Intertricity> jrib: how?
[06:54] <Intertricity> Ohhh ok
[06:54] <jrib> Intertricity: killall nautilus
[06:54] <wols_> djieno: telnet <server ip> 139
[06:54] <chombee> Anybody know of a way to get better Alt-Tab for GNOME? I'm thinking of something a bit fancier, like Mac OS X alt-tab
[06:54] <Intertricity> jrib ok brb
[06:54] <oxdot> EightEleven: ... http://www.compactflash.org/faqs/faq.htm ... but im not going further on this for now ...
[06:54] <EADG__> zabin: looks like uif files are propriatary to MagicISO... have you looked to see if they offer a Linux version?
[06:54] <wols_> djieno: does it connect? if not: what is the message you get?
[06:54] <djieno> wols, ill try now
[06:54] <Heptofite> gravemind, apparently i also need to install a synaptics driver\
[06:54] <wols_> djieno: also the output of iptables -L would be nice
[06:55] <EightEleven> oxdot: thanks, learning new things every day.
[06:55] <deye> hello all
[06:55] <Intertricity> jrib: ah well, I'm fine typing in the terminal anyway, thanks =)
[06:55] <fuffal0> alright I still can't get rc.local to run on startup... it's placed in /etc  (not /etc/init.d), it's permissions are set to executable ... any other ideas?
[06:55] <deye> i installed crossover why does it not show in the menus ?
[06:55] <Intertricity> jrib: It wasn't for anything too crucial.
[06:55] <wols_> deye: ask whoever made he crossover package. not us
[06:55] <oxdot> EightEleven: ... please ;)
[06:55] <gravemind> Heptofite: hmm. open up xorg.conf and see if you can find anything that looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23621/
[06:56] <jrib> Intertricity: for what you are doing, it is probably easier to create a launcher
[06:56] <djieno> wols, telnet doesn't work, since it is insecure, only ssh
[06:56] <wols_> djieno: it does work
[06:56] <wols_> for what I want it
[06:56] <djieno> wols, not i prevent the port with iptables
[06:56] <gravemind> Heptofite: it looks like all versions of ubuntu after 6.06 install the synaptics driver automatically
[06:56] <Heptofite> gravemind, yeah, my system doesn't realize its a touchpad, how can i configure for that?
[06:56] <wols_> djieno: you prevent port 139 with iptables?
[06:56] <wols_> if so: try port 80
[06:57] <wols_> cause if you block that too. your webserver will be very useless
[06:57] <deye> wols_ sorry for wasting your time .. why did u even waste a couple of you precious seconds pasting a reply
[06:57] <gravemind> Heptofite: short answer: I don't know. I don't even have a laptop. But could you pastebin your xorg.conf ?
[06:57] <Intertricity> jrib a launcher?
[06:57] <djieno> wols, i open only the needed ports in iptables, telnet no
[06:58] <aMMuNix> any program can open archives (rars,zips) like winrar does in windows, using drag and drop from the archive program to nautilus\desktop
[06:58] <aMMuNix> question mark
[06:58] <wols_> deye: cause you asked something here that is OT. plus I gave you an answer. crossover is not in ubuntu, so we cannit support it here. ask codeweavers. they are the only ones who support crossover
[06:58] <Heptofite> i'll see what i can do
[06:58] <jrib> Intertricity: right click on your panel, add to panel, custom application launcher, fill in the details, copy it to your desktop
[06:58] <wols_> djieno: telnet has no ports. it's a client. in.telnetd does have a port (23) but of course it's not open since no in.telnetd runs!
[06:59] <hilltopper> hello all, i was wondering if someone could help a newbie with an nvidia driver issue?
[06:59] <deye> wols ,,, a lot of people purchase cx .. so seeing there r 1000+ ppl here maybe someone will be running it
[06:59] <wols_> djieno: which is why I asked you to connect to port 139 with  telnet. if that is closed too to the outside, I asked you to use port 80. cuase that really shouldn't be closed
[06:59] <Heptofite> whats the command for to reconfigure x?
[07:00] <wols_> deye: I know a lot of people purchase windows or office. both sorta run under WINE even. doesn't mean #ubuntu supports office or windows. it's OT. now go and ask codeweavers
[07:00] <ZeZu> reconfigure xorg-server
[07:00] <wols_> deye: or read up on "menu" and "update-menus" to see how you can add it yourself
[07:00] <djieno> wols, i get that. but why would i want to connect my server with telnet as i have a ssh connection available?
[07:00] <ZeZu> for dpkg or apt-get
[07:00] <wols_> Heptofite: dpkg-reocnfigure xserver-xorg
[07:01] <Intertricity> jrib: Sweet! Thanks!
[07:01] <wols_> djieno: come back when you did what I asked you
[07:01] <deye> wols windoze or office are not linux programs ... cx runs on linux
[07:01] <variant> I have a strange font issue, some of my letters in certain orders overlap. mn overlaps but nm does not.. anyone can help?
[07:01] <wols_> deye: office runs under wine last I checked
[07:01] <wols_> deye: and all your arguing doesn't change the fact that you don't have an ubuntu question and I already answered your question at least twice
[07:02] <gravemind> Heptofite: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:02] <Intertricity> jrib: I have both running now. I forgot to get rid of DISPLAY=:0 and put the full path name =)
[07:02] <Intertricity> jrib: Thanks again ^_^
[07:02] <mag_> hey do you know an other system like rapid share but where I can to send or share 1gB ?
[07:03] <jwallingford> !repositorie
[07:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repositorie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:03] <jwallingford> !repositories
[07:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:03] <hyuma> hi
[07:03] <hyuma> how can I configure my nokia phone on ubuntu?
[07:03] <deye> wols like i said if u dont have a constructive reply pls dont give one .. id rather have no reply than a lame one
[07:04] <Badzo> hyuma: i tried xgnokii but i couldnt make it working
[07:04] <jwallingford> !repository
[07:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:04] <Badzo> you should try it
[07:04] <aMMuNix> any program can open archives (rars,zips) like winrar does in windows, using drag and drop from the archive program to nautilus\desktop?
[07:04] <hyuma> I've too
[07:04] <djieno> wols, sorry but i don't need to open port 80 form the outside as have no webservices running on my host. Returnpath to a site from server/host works fine ofcourse
[07:04] <jwallingford> get unrar
[07:04] <hyuma> Badzo: try lsusb
[07:04] <hyuma> tell me if you see something
[07:04] <jwallingford> you will be using arc and unrar will tie into it aMMuNix
[07:05] <aMMuNix> what's arc? that's the program?
[07:05] <preaction> aMMuNix: or file-roller (for gnome), arc is for kde
[07:05] <djieno> wols, why should iptables all of a sudden be the problem when it wasn't when i tested it with my laptop?
[07:05] <Badzo> hyuma: there's something but i am still newbie and i dont know what it is...
[07:06] <aMMuNix> how do I get file-roller then preaction?
[07:06] <hyuma> something what?
[07:06] <Badzo> how can i PM you?
[07:06] <preaction> aMMuNix: if you installed the default ubuntu, you have it
[07:06] <hyuma> can't here
[07:06] <aMMuNix> how can I configure it to my needs then?
[07:06] <hyuma> let's speak here
[07:06] <Badzo> i dont want to paste here 5 lines of text
[07:07] <mandani> Is it possible to run 2 hostnames on the same OS for example server.exe.com and server.example.com
[07:07] <mandani> they are on separate interface
[07:07] <Badzo> but i will
[07:07] <Badzo> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[07:07] <Badzo> Bus 003 Device 002: ID 6547:0232
[07:07] <Badzo> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[07:07] <Badzo> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[07:07] <Badzo> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[07:07] <Badzo> ] 
[07:07] <preaction> aMMuNix: you need to install the unrar / rar utilities, possibly from the universe repos
[07:07] <hyuma> ok you're lucky
[07:07] <hyuma> get vendor
[07:07] <preaction> !pastebin | badzo
[07:07] <hyuma> and install module
[07:07] <ubotu> badzo: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:07] <aMMuNix> I have unrar installed
[07:07] <mandani> and have IP addresses in the appropriate range
[07:07] <Badzo> sorry preaction
[07:07] <wols_> mandani: event he same IP can have as many hostnames as you want
[07:08] <preaction> Badzo, hyuma: you could create a random channel if you wanted, like #foogoofishies
[07:08] <udusu> I dont have sound on my Toshiba L30 - 113 laptop, I'm running Feisty, what should I do?
[07:08] <EightEleven> Mandani: For which services, http, email, ftp?
[07:08] <aMMuNix> preaction maybe you didn't understand my problem, I want to drag and drop files from an archive to nautilus\my desktop instead of right clicking extract choose path bla
[07:08] <preaction> aMMuNix: then what's the problem?
[07:08] <wols_> mandani: with commerical hosters, often there are hundreds of different websites on one IP
[07:08] <aMMuNix> ^^
[07:08] <Badzo> hyuma: what should I install?
[07:09] <wols_> !sound | udusu
[07:09] <ubotu> udusu: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:09] <flx^> is there some sort of monitor-autoconfig script which can be run everytime x is started?
[07:09] <Badzo> There isnt vendor package
[07:09] <hyuma> go here Badzo
[07:09] <hyuma> http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Hardware/Modem/CellulareGprsUmtsUsb?highlight=%28USB%29
[07:09] <preaction> aMMuNix: file-roller can't do that, maybe try arc? or maybe it's not possible, interprocess communication in linux isn't as well-integrated as some other OSes
[07:09] <aroo> Anyone else having slow downloads through repositories?
[07:09] <mandani> i have two interfaces
[07:09] <wols_> flx^: you configure you monitor once with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:09] <BleSS> how let that an user can open a graphical application? I run export DISPLAY=":0"
[07:09] <flx^> wols_: THANKS
[07:09] <ultrakorne> feisty frozes on install, someone have some hits? (sata2 drive?)
[07:09] <mandani> I want to add one in one domain and the other in a private domain
[07:09] <flx^> (DUH)
[07:09] <zabin> fix^: nvidia card is it?
[07:09] <aMMuNix> well I'll try preaction, thanks
[07:09] <pirunga> I have problems to open .rar in ubuntu, can someone help to fix it?
[07:10] <mandani> eth1 192.168.0.100
[07:10] <flx^> zabin: not sure, i'm not near it atm
[07:10] <djieno> wols, thank you for your time, i think your not able to help me, thanks anyway
[07:10] <mandani> eth0 207.26.75,98
[07:10] <wols_> djieno: I told you before. and: when I suggest something and people don't do it, I certainly cannot help at all
[07:10] <oxdot> EightEleven: just for info, for this modem, i should get some pcmcia module (serial_cs) loaded and conf. in the right way ... debian getit at plug and play level ... but ubuntu seems to need some conf. (???) ...
[07:10] <mandani> on the private domain I need to be part of the domain
[07:10] <wols_> djieno: but then no one can over irc
[07:10] <zabin> fix: ? atm
[07:10] <oxdot> cya guy's ... and keep the community alive ... !!!
[07:10] <flx^> but of course, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg must do the trick
[07:11] <flx^> atm = at the moment
[07:11] <zabin> ah
[07:11] <magnetron> pirunga: you have to install unrar-free
[07:11] <zabin> automated teller machine lol
[07:11] <flx^> lol
[07:11] <pirunga> magnetron:  apt-get :/????
[07:11] <Badzo> hyuma: is there a page like this in english?
[07:11] <magnetron> pirunga: yes, or synaptic
[07:11] <hyuma> dunno
[07:12] <hyuma> think yes Badzo
[07:12] <pupeno_> Hello
[07:12] <magnetron> pirunga: make sure you have universe repository enabled
[07:13] <magnetron> !away > Ares|Work
[07:13] <djieno> wols, i guess you're the expert, things you try may be in good interest but they are not logical providing the laptop test i told you about. i think you were focussing on iptables which is not the prbolem i think, but anyway thanks! have a nice evening
[07:14] <pirunga> magnetron: I install but it's not working yet
[07:14] <wols_> djieno: then your problem is either that IRQ thingie in dmesg or hardware
[07:14] <udusu> wols_: I was looking there but I don't find anything that could help ;(
[07:15] <magnetron> pirunga: ok, how are you using it and what happens?
[07:15] <johnschroeder> sipior: you still there?
[07:15] <udusu> wols_: I have only Realtek ALC861 installed, not ALSA
[07:15] <pirunga> magnetron: archive not suported
[07:15] <wols_> udusu: with the error description you've given so far it's all we can tell you
[07:15] <johnschroeder> can anyone help me out
[07:16] <johnschroeder> i am trying to load ubuntu server 8
[07:16] <wols_> udusu: if alsa is not installed there is no sound. period
[07:16] <johnschroeder> i mean 7
[07:16] <CarlFK> Where can I find the sources to the Alternate CD installer?  I am trying to figure out what dhcp client package is used
[07:16] <wols_> udusu: sound in ubuntu means alsa. no way around it
[07:16] <magnetron> pirunga: you did not say how you are using it
[07:16] <udusu> wols_: so.. how can I install it?
[07:16] <wols_> udusu: follow what ubotu told you
[07:17] <pirunga> magnetron:  I open with 2 clicks
[07:17] <pirunga> and the arch dont open
[07:17] <wols_> udusu: alsa-project.org has a nice table to see what driver you need if ubuntu can't figure out on its own
[07:17] <magnetron> pirunga: ok
[07:17] <wols_> CarlFK: iirc dhclient
[07:17] <magnetron> pirunga: one sec
[07:17] <CarlFK> wols_: which version, and how do you know?
[07:18] <wols_> dpkg -l dhclient
[07:19] <wols_> cause it is the standard client
[07:19] <CarlFK> wols_ in the installer, or what the installer installes ?
[07:19] <magnetron> pirunga: ok, it may be a rar3.0 file. if so, you have to uninstall unrar-free and replace it with unrar
[07:19] <pirunga> ok
[07:19] <Heptofite> okay, i tried the xorg reconfigure thing
[07:19] <Heptofite> but it Says i don't have xorg-server installed
[07:19] <wols_> Heptofite: cause that package does not exist
[07:20] <wols_> Heptofite: xserver-xorg
[07:20] <Heptofite> wols_, thanks
[07:20] <CarlFK> wols_ you are assuming the installer uses the same thing, which is not good enough (there are plenty of places where the installer uses smaller versions)
[07:20] <Heptofite> wols_, do you know how i would force cpu scaling to keep the cpu at 50%
[07:20] <Heptofite> ?
[07:20] <sliebana> 7uytrytr
[07:20] <sliebana> ola
[07:21] <wols_> Heptofite: no
[07:21] <wols_> CarlFK: punp then
[07:21] <CarlFK> wols_: punp?
[07:21] <theconartist> lol
[07:21] <wols_> yes pump
[07:21] <jintxo> can someone advise? I can't boot my system with only 1 drive of a md raid1 plugged in. it will "time out" qandtake me into the initramfs busybox. I expeceted this to boot even if 1 of the drives wasn't available
[07:22] <CarlFK> wols_: even if you are right this time, I need to verify it with the sources - any idea where they are?
[07:23] <feliciano> hi... I'm searching for a good appz to post from ubuntu to wordpress.com. Do you know any??
[07:23] <wols_> CarlFK: no
[07:24] <feliciano> hi... I'm searching for a good appz to post from ubuntu to wordpress.com. Do you know any??
[07:24] <feliciano> sorry
[07:24] <CarlFK> wols_: ok.  thanks for trying (really)
[07:25] <Pici> feliciano: I know of one... but I forget the time, hold on a minute.
[07:25] <Pici> feliciano: Er, not the time, the name. (my brain is wandering)
[07:25] <majd> !samba
[07:25] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[07:25] <feliciano> Pici...jejje I can wait while you remember
[07:25] <wols_> CarlFK: I've never ever seen any other dhcp client be used in a debian or ubuntu
[07:25] <wols_> CarlFK: than those two
[07:26] <vakuum> Hi, is there any easy way to downgrade kernel, or do I have to download an older kernel and compile it myself?
[07:26] <wols_> vakuum: just install the older kernel with apt or dpkg
[07:26] <Pici> feliciano: Drivel is the name
[07:26] <CarlFK> wols_: there are different versions, and I am interested in a feature  " That obviously isn't well deployed > in clients yet."
[07:26] <Pici> feliciano: its in the Ubuntu repositories
[07:26] <feliciano> Pici... Is good??
[07:26] <Pici> feliciano: Yeah, I've used it before.
[07:26] <feliciano> Pici Thanks.. I'm going to try it
[07:27] <sivik> after installing phpbb2 from aptitude, how do i get it to come up correctly in the browswer, i can't find a good howto
[07:27] <feliciano> Pici Thanks a lot
[07:27] <Pici> feliciano: sure.
[07:27] <sivik> nvm, just found a howto
[07:27] <thisisthenodenam> How come when I turn off my swap partition top still reports swap memory being used?
[07:27] <wols_> pump is a very minimal dhcp client :). doubt it has any features. however: you can always go to 2nd console with alt+f2 when insalling and set your IP and route settings yourself
[07:27] <mewconsulting> Hello
[07:27] <wols_> CarlFK: and when ubuntu is installed get a eevn compile a dhcp client with all the features your need
[07:29] <thisisthenodenam> does anyone know?
[07:30] <CarlFK> wols_: it is the install process that I am trying to work with.  I could throw out dhcp all together, but dhcp is really handy.  I think the installer's dhcp cilent has what I want " honest-to-god domain search option, we implemented it> in 3.1.0 "
[07:30] <CarlFK> wols_: im just trying to verify that it is the dhcp server that is screwing up, no the client
[07:31] <wols_> animal_: what xserver driver
[07:31] <wols_> abimatri1: what xservre driver
[07:31] <nico__> how do i fix the backspace button
[07:31] <nico__> i want to use it to go back in the browser
[07:32] <RedACE> about:config
[07:32] <RedACE> search for backspace
[07:32] <RedACE> it is set to either a 0 or 1.. change it to whatever it isn't currently set to.
[07:32] <nico__> about config?
[07:33] <Azhi_Dahaka> i reinstalled ubuntu but still no sound
[07:33] <RedACE> in firefox, put about:config in your address bar and hit enter
[07:33] <Danzor> Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between workspaces?
[07:33] <Juhaz> ctrl+alt+arrows
[07:33] <Danzor> Thanks
[07:33] <magnetron> nico__:  type about:config in adress bar of firefox
[07:34] <nico__> found it
[07:34] <Prez_> hello
[07:34] <vakuum> wols_, any idea where i can find linux-source-2.6.18.tar.bz2 ?
[07:34] <Dbglu> Say, anyone know how to convince the gnome terminal to open in a slightly larger window when run?  I'd like it to open 80X25 rather than 80X24 and it would be neat if I could do this without resizing.
[07:34] <magnetron> nico__: you have to change browser.backspace_action to 0
[07:35] <ticky> i want to reconnect to my DSL provider on disconnect, does anybody know how to do that? i read this, but i don't know how to implement it in ubuntu.: http://osdir.com/ml/misc.pptpclient.devel/2005-01/msg00001.html
[07:35] <Prez_> I am running feisty on thinkpad x60s, with Intel HDA audio adapter.  Sometimes when I come back from suspend, sound is dead... what could I check?
[07:35] <damionh> Could anyone help me with a simple program install please ?
[07:35] <h4wk0`> What program is it damionh ?
[07:35] <ubuntu-rocks> i'm thinking of running ubuntu desktop (latest version) on a hp dc5100SFF. Comments?
[07:35] <magnetron> Dbglu: in gnome-terminal, edit the setting in edit > current profile
[07:35] <nico__> cant find it here
[07:36] <damionh> its a game , im a newbie im afraid , its flightgear
[07:36] <nico__> ow wait browser. first
[07:36] <m4O4_gh0st> very short question :
[07:36] <m4O4_gh0st> i want to use links to enable an ftp user the access to a folder OUTSIDE of /home/ftp
[07:36] <m4O4_gh0st> will this work with links? or do i have to use mount ?
[07:36] <nico__> it's nog in  that file
[07:37] <Azhi_Dahaka> i can't get my audio to work
[07:37] <nico__> i see browser.active and stuf but no browser.action
[07:37] <magnetron> m4O4_gh0st: it depends on how you configure your ftp server
[07:37] <ncd> hey just wondering which is the best VM to use
[07:37] <magnetron> nico__: it's not a file
[07:37] <damionh> it has a .deb extension and im not sure how to install that
[07:37] <ncd> if you wanted to be able to game
[07:37] <ncd> ?
[07:37] <Dbglu> Thanks Magnetron, I'm in edit > current profile, but can't find a size setting.  Am I overlooking it?
[07:37] <h4wk0`> damionh; Download this http://packages.debian.org/unstable/games/flightgear.html
[07:37] <nico__> i cant find it in the about:config thing
[07:38] <nico__> perhaps i have to add it?
[07:38] <grodius> hi
[07:38] <m4O4_gh0st> magnetron, well it's obviously configured to follow symlinks ^^ ;)
[07:38] <grodius> How do I install a beryl theme?
[07:38] <wols_> vakuum: at kernel.org or apt-cache search linux-source
[07:38] <nico__> nvm
[07:38] <magnetron> Dbglu: sorry, my mistake
[07:38] <damionh> i have that now, i have the i386 version
[07:38] <nico__> found it
[07:38] <ticky> so, nobody knows here how to tell me how do i reconnect automaticallly from the internet?
[07:39] <animal_> wobx, wtf?
[07:39] <wols_> ticky: how do you ocnnect in the first place? ppp? dhcp? etc?
[07:39] <nico__> magnetron: it works, thanks
[07:39] <m4O4_gh0st> magnetron,  but it does not allow the user to go outside of /home/ftp , and the linked folder would be outside ... using symlinks will make it "see" that it's an outside folder and thus not work, right?
[07:39] <abimatri1> please help me "when i press ctrl alt f1 i am moved to tty but when i press ctrl-alt-f7 i could not move to xserver it turns to black screen it also takes place when i logout from xserver"
[07:39] <ticky> wols_: using "pon dsl-provider"
[07:39] <damionh> h4wk0`: i have that now, i have the i386
[07:39] <EADG__> damionh: Flightgear is in the repositories, you could use synaptic to download and install it for you.
[07:39] <ticky> wols_:  i want to reconnect to my DSL provider on disconnect, does anybody know how to do that? i read this, but i don't know how to implement it in ubuntu.: http://osdir.com/ml/misc.pptpclient.devel/2005-01/msg00001.html
[07:39] <magnetron> m4O4_gh0st: depends on how your ftp server is configured, you should not have to use symlinks
[07:40] <vakuum> ty
[07:40] <h4wk0`> actually damionh  scrap that - sudo apt-get install flightgear
[07:41] <magnetron> Dbglu: ok, i found it
[07:41] <abimatri1> please help me "when i press ctrl alt f1 i am moved to tty but when i press ctrl-alt-f7 i could not move to xserver it turns to black screen it also takes place when i logout from xserver"
[07:41] <Dbglu> Yea!
[07:42] <wols_> ticky: persistent in your ppp config
[07:42] <h4wk0`> !info fgfs-base
[07:42] <ubotu> fgfs-base: Flight Gear Flight Simulator -- base files. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.9.10-1 (feisty), package size 157532 kB, installed size 276108 kB
[07:42] <rod>  hello there,  I compiled the kernel 2.6.20 but when iniciate my computer the udev don't work
 any idea sobre this problem? What's I see ?
[07:43] <ticky> wols_: sorry, i don't get you
[07:43] <johnschroeder> can anyone tell me if a p3 500 mhz 64 mb of ram and 6 gig hard drive fast enough to run a web server on ubunto
[07:43] <johnschroeder> can anyone tell me if a p3 500 mhz 64 mb of ram and 6 gig hard drive fast enough to run a web server on ubuntu
[07:43] <damionh> h4wk0`: it seems to be doing it, brilliant many thanks, just one last thing how do i know what to type , as in flightgear ? is there a list ?
[07:43] <Prez_> I am running feisty on thinkpad x60s, with Intel HDA audio adapter.  Sometimes when I come back from suspend, sound is dead... what could I check?
[07:43] <wols_> ticky: an option for pppd
[07:43] <EightEleven> abimatri1: Are u using a laptop?
[07:43] <Azhi_Dahaka> guys, why doesn't ubuntu recognise my audio card?
[07:43] <wols_> ticky: "persist"
[07:43] <nix> johnschroeder: yeah sure
[07:43] <thisisthenodenam> anyone?
[07:43] <wols_> !sound | Azhi_Dahaka
[07:43] <h4wk0`> damionh; It should be in games list (if your own gnome)
[07:43] <ubotu> Azhi_Dahaka: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[07:43] <ticky> wols_: but where
[07:43] <Azhi_Dahaka> it's supported, but it just doesn't sound
[07:43] <johnschroeder> nix: i booted it up and it seems sluggish, slow
[07:43] <h4wk0`> or just time flightgear in ur terminal
[07:43] <wols_> ticky: /etc/ppp/options
[07:43] <abimatri1> no its desktop sir
[07:44] <wols_> Azhi_Dahaka: read what ubotu just told you
[07:44] <ticky> wols_: ok. let me check
[07:44] <h4wk0`> damionh; (I am downloading to just to have a look)
[07:44] <nix> johnschroeder: maybe turning off the gui will free up enough resources
[07:44] <PreZGN> hrm, well, I'm compiling the kernel ;)
[07:44] <PreZGN> something I thought I'd not have to do on ubuntu ;)
[07:44] <EightEleven> abimatri1: Some laptops had a problem that they switch to the external screen.
[07:44] <EightEleven> So that's why I asked.
[07:44] <ubuntu-rocks> iptables is loading on startup, where can find where this is happening?
[07:44] <johnschroeder> well if the gui is turned off, i will not know how to operate that web server, i wonder how much more it will take for the gui to run just some more ram ?
[07:44] <Madsy> How can I schedule fsck to run at the next boot in Ubuntu Feisty?
[07:44] <wols_> ubuntu-rocks: somehere in /etc
[07:44] <dyrne> johnschroeder: also in feisty i found hd io to not be optimal id sudo hdparm -tT /dev/hda or whatever
[07:45] <wols_> Madsy: touch /forcefsck
[07:45] <Azhi_Dahaka> http://alsa.opensrc.org/Home/w/org/opensrc/alsa/index.php
[07:45] <nix> johnschroeder: running a web server doesn't really require a lot of cpu power. yeah RAM should get you going
[07:45] <Madsy> wolki: Thanks :)
[07:45] <Azhi_Dahaka> There is currently no text in this page, you can search for this page title in other pages or edit this page.
[07:45] <johnschroeder> nix: what is feisty??
[07:45] <damionh> h4wk0` : when i typed in apt-get install xxxxxxx , how do i know what i can type in instead of xxxxxxx is there a list ?
[07:45] <Dbglu> magnetron: where is it?
[07:45] <wols_> johnschroeder: if you run a apache/php/mysql webserevr the added ram needed will kill performance
[07:45] <nix> johnschroeder: its the codename for the ubuntu 7.04 release
[07:45] <abimatri1> how to change the run level in ubuntu
[07:45] <wols_> damionh: use snyaptic
[07:46] <wols_> damionh: synaptic or aptitude
[07:46] <wols_> abimatri1: man init
[07:46] <wols_> init <#>
[07:46] <ticky> wols_: done. how can i test that it is workin?
[07:46] <h4wk0`> damionh; i normally type apt-cache search "something"
[07:46] <h4wk0`> to see if its there
[07:46] <ticky> wols_: will  "poff" work
[07:46] <nix> wols_: "the added ram needed will kill performance" -- what does that mean?
[07:46] <ubuntu-rocks> where can i find some docs on ubuntu startup, what gets loaded and when? etc?
[07:46] <johnschroeder> wols_: what do you mean the added ram will kill performance, are you saying it will make it worse?
[07:46] <wols_> nix: GUI needs RAM
[07:47] <abimatri1> like /etc/initab in redhat whats in ubuntu
[07:47] <wols_> johnschroeder: if you use more tam for gui, then apache might lack ram foricing it to use swap
[07:47] <nix> wols_: oh.. k
[07:47] <wols_> abimatri1: that's not to change runlevels
[07:47] <damionh> h4wk0` : aaah i might borrow that "trick" if i may
[07:47] <h4wk0`> Sure :D
[07:47] <carolyn> I'm trying to use files off my external HD, but the external isn't showing up...
[07:47] <Azhi_Dahaka> those websites aren't helping much
[07:47] <rod>  hello there,  I compiled the kernel 2.6.20 but when iniciate my computer the udev don't work
[07:47] <wols_> johnschroeder: 64mB means you need ALL you ram for the GUI if your run one
[07:48] <wols_> rod: ubuntu or debian?
[07:48] <johnschroeder> wols_: that sounds confusing but okay, it only just going to be a simple trackit- to track work orders and stuff like that pretty much
[07:48] <johnschroeder> ubuntu as far as i know
[07:48] <magnetron> Dbglu: in the gnome-terminal man page, there is a mention of geometry
[07:48] <damionh> h4wk0` : it has downloaded and appeared in Applications , i'll try it. Whenever i go to update or install i seem to get the same error message...
[07:48] <rod> wols: kernel do ubuntu in debian
[07:48] <rod> kernel the ubuntu in debian
[07:48] <magnetron> Dbglu: you have to supply the option at the commandline
[07:48] <rod> wols: kernel the ubuntu in debian
[07:48] <nix> johnschroeder: adding more ram will help you in administering the web server using the GUI.
[07:49] <magnetron> Dbglu: create a custom application launcher
[07:49] <dyrne> carolyn: unplug it replug then do 'dmesg | tail' if sda or sdb or whatever shows up you should be able to mount it
[07:49] <nix> johnschroeder: if you are comfortable with txt interface then turn off that GUI and start editing the conf files. ;-)
[07:49] <damionh> h4wk0` it is .. clvm redhat-cluster-suite and system-config-cluster , i take it they arent a problem ?
[07:49] <johnschroeder> nix: appreciate it, that what i was thinking, anyways i wonder just how much trouble it is to set this up on gui the web site
[07:49] <wols_> rod: "kernel ubuntu in debian" makes no sense. also if you run debian: wrong channel
[07:50] <ubuntu-rocks> anyone here using lvs?
[07:50] <carolyn> dyrne: d'oh...unplug/replug worked just fine...
[07:50] <wols_> johnschroeder: a gui on a webserver is useless
[07:50] <wols_> !anyone | ubuntu-rocks
[07:50] <ubotu> ubuntu-rocks: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:50] <dyrne> carolyn: heh
[07:50] <rod> wols: thank's
[07:51] <ubuntu-rocks> ok, who is running lvs here? :)
[07:51] <rod> we are the comunity help only the distro favorite
[07:51] <rod> I forgot
[07:51] <johnschroeder> wols_: i understand lol i need to get smarter at not using GUI
[07:51] <damionh> h4wk0`: Many thanks for your help, im off to play
[07:52] <nix> johnschroeder: righto..
[07:52] <emerald> Hello everyone.     I am new to ubuntu and a return user of linux.  I downloaded the Live CD and booted it and then screwed up my hard drive partition, can someone help me fix it.
[07:53] <nix> emerald: what did you do after booting the live cd?
[07:53] <magnetron> emerald: what did you do to the hard drive?
[07:53] <emerald> I told it to install.  and then selected resize partition
[07:53] <Dbglu> Magnetron:  THANKS!  That worked perfectly!
[07:53] <magnetron> emerald: and what happened?
[07:53] <sliebana> ola
[07:54] <magnetron> Dbglu: glad to help
[07:54] <emerald> Let me first tell you I have 2 SATA Hard Drives.   I just bought the second one last week.  I left 100GB "FREE" on it but ubuntu thought it was one large NTFS partition even though XP said that 100GB was not partitioned
[07:54] <sx66> I currently have Ubuntu on my laptop, I want to partition winxp on it, how do I keep ubuntu?
[07:54] <emerald> My main OS drive works perfect still.  I only lost my ISOs and movies that I moved to the new drive
[07:55] <sliebana> adios
[07:55] <sliebana> lhgp'yp
[07:55] <sliebana> oooooooollllllllllllllllllollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[07:56] <emerald> When I booted back into XP the second hard drive shows one partition taking up 200GB and one that is 105 of unallocated space
[07:57] <paotzu> just delete XP
[07:57] <ramatieg> Why doesn't Feisty automatically mount by external hard drive?
[07:57] <emerald> not yet
[07:58] <ramatieg> (USB)
[07:58] <wols_> johnschroeder: running a webserver from console is easy. not much to do. and nothing really in GUI that helps you with it
[07:58] <EightEleven> Ubuntu-rocks: I'm not running lvs, but I know something about virtual machines and something about routing.
[07:58] <sx66> I currently have Ubuntu on my laptop, I want to partition winxp on it, how do I keep ubuntu?
[07:59] <Gabrie1> !help
[07:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:59] <hyuma> sx66: i think that if you install winxp after linux, linux will be bumped off
[08:00] <EightEleven> sx66: If you want to keep an Ubuntu partition and install XP in another partition, then XP will probably damage your boot loader.
[08:00] <paotzu> no, wrong, just use GParted to shrink the partition
[08:00] <carolyn> ok, now i need help opening an .exe...if that's possible
[08:01] <EightEleven> !wine > Carolyn
[08:01] <carolyn> i would just look it up online,but my browser is messed
[08:01] <leagris> Someone can help on pktcdvd preventing playing dual layer DVD videos?
[08:01] <paotzu> yea you're going to have to re install the boot loader
[08:01] <BlueEagl1> !wine
[08:01] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:01] <bytecolor> or a dos emulator, depending on the executable
[08:01] <carolyn> eighteleven: i installed wine, but the file won't install
[08:01] <cornsnap> I cannot unload the prism54pci module/driver any ideas?
[08:01] <frandavid100> hi
[08:01] <frandavid100> I need some help filing a bug, how's the location bar on nautilus called? the one that shows buttons instead of text
[08:02] <BlueEagl1> carolyn: Did you get any errors?
[08:02] <leagris> Whel may dvd device is configured as pktcdvd I can't play dual layer DVD. When not using pktcdvd, dual layer DVD plays nicely.
[08:02] <carolyn> blueeagl1: yeah: "No suitable application."
[08:02] <BlueEagl1> frandavid100: Are you thinking of the toolbar?
[08:02] <emerald> hmmmm, who can I talk to about my partition problem?
[08:03] <mikkael> i need help with the tool "fxload"
[08:03] <paotzu> emerald: GParted
[08:03] <frandavid100> nope, BlueEagl1, I'll show you a screenshot
[08:03] <paotzu> oh wait, that's the other guy
[08:03] <BlueEagl1> carolyn: Do you know how to run an application trough wine?
[08:03] <emerald> I am downloading that now
[08:03] <paotzu> gparted works pretty well though
[08:03] <carolyn> BlueEagl1, nope. :(
[08:03] <cornsnap> cannot unload the prism54pci module with rmmod.  Any ideas?
[08:03] <paotzu> I've used that and that ntfsresize program with no problems
[08:03] <frandavid100> BlueEagl1: http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/2366/pantallazodibusnavegadolu8.png
[08:04] <BlueEagl1> carolyn: First open a terminal emulator then type: wine /path/to/application/programname.exe
[08:04] <emerald> I have 17 minutes before the download is donw
[08:04] <paotzu> I have the best success just nuking XP though, that is always effective
[08:04] <emerald> heheheh
[08:04] <paotzu> I've never done a linux install for a video game player though
[08:04] <johnschroeder> nix: i took it from 64mb to 512 mb we will see how that works now!!
[08:05] <frandavid100> you know, BlueEagl1, those buttons that are just like a location bar
[08:05] <BlueBird22> nickrud hi
[08:05] <BlueEagl1> frandavid100: Thats a pop-up menu on the history bar iirc
[08:05] <cornsnap> unloading a module with rmmod does not actually unload it when I run ndiswrapper -l
[08:05] <emerald> well here is my thing.   I have a 320GB SATA drive.  A 200GB NTFS Partition that only has ISO and video files on it.  112MB of conntent.    I tried to install Ubuntu in the other 120GB of unpartitioned space but it messed up the first partition.   How do I fix the first partition to get my files back.
[08:05] <frandavid100> BlueEagl1:  nope, I gimped the pop-up menu. The part just above it, where it reads david  dibus
[08:06] <frandavid100> I wanna ask for it to be made right-clickable
[08:06] <frandavid100> so you can get a pop-up menu like the one on the mockup
[08:06] <nickrud> BlueBird22, hi there
[08:07] <nickrud> BlueBird22, missed you yesterday I saw
[08:08] <aMMuNix> how can I make it so clicking a URL inside a terminal\GAIM will open the URL is firefox
[08:08] <BlueBird22> nickrud np. i have ran the scanModem thing. what now?
[08:09] <nickrud> BlueBird22, I can't walk you thru right now; will you be around in about 2 hours?
[08:10] <paotzu> BlueBird22: what's the problem with your modem
[08:11] <ramatieg> What is the standard Ubuntu partition/mkfs tool?
[08:11] <BlueBird22> nickrud yes. pm or type my nick here. and just tell me whats the easiest direction... ill do some homework til you return
[08:11] <Azhi_Dahaka> sorry to bother but i couldn't use those sites about my audio issue
[08:11] <BlueBird22> paotzu i have a great lucent winmodem. trying to make it work on kubuntu. its been 2 days.
[08:11] <Azhi_Dahaka> my audio card is fully supported, yet i don't get any audio output
[08:11] <nickrud> BlueBird22, maybe paotzu can get you through. Till later then
[08:11] <BlueBird22> nickrud which driver you choose?
[08:12] <nickrud> BlueBird22, I've got to do some quick research myself, it's been a couple of years and I've learned not to depend overmuch on my memory
[08:12] <BlueBird22> paotzu any e a s y way ?
[08:12] <carolyn> ok, i'm not familiar w/ either ubuntu or windows...how do i get to the C directory?
[08:12] <BlueBird22> nickrud ok
[08:13] <paotzu> BlueBird22: what is the model
[08:13] <BlueBird22> paotzu lucent/agere . dsp
[08:14] <Airforce5555> SCHOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLSSSS OUT FOR THE SUMMMERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:14] <Azhi_Dahaka> isn't ubuntu supposed to work out of the box?
[08:14] <Airforce5555> not totally
[08:14] <Airforce5555> you may still need to install drivers
[08:14] <Azhi_Dahaka> but, the audio card is recognized
[08:14] <Airforce5555> you need to install drivers for it
[08:15] <aMMuNix> how can I make it so clicking a URL inside a terminal\GAIM will open the URL is firefox?
[08:15] <Azhi_Dahaka> the cd player shows me that the cd is playing but i can't hear anything and the system doesn't sounds either
[08:15] <Airforce5555> im not the best for installing drivers.
[08:15] <Azhi_Dahaka> i tried those alsa pages but they weren't useful
[08:15] <Azhi_Dahaka> there were no links to download the drivers
[08:16] <Airforce5555> hmmmm, im not sure then
[08:16] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, did u install the codecs
[08:17] <Azhi_Dahaka> codecs?
[08:17] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, do u have a sound when ubuntu is logging in
[08:17] <Azhi_Dahaka> why would i need codecs to play audio cds?
[08:17] <Azhi_Dahaka> no, no sound
[08:17] <BlueBird22> paotzu - http://pastebin.ca/528838
[08:17] <EightEleven> Carolyn: What application are you trying to run?
[08:18] <spheard> how do I ping flood
[08:18] <carolyn> eighteleven: MagicISO, because I have a file I need to burn onto a DVD that's only available in UIF
[08:18] <livingdaylight> Hello
[08:18] <Tru7h> Hello again
[08:18] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, ok do u have volume icon on the panel right click on it and click volume control
[08:18] <Azhi_Dahaka> done
[08:18] <aMMuNix> anyone know how to fix the problem with totem "internal data flow error"?
[08:18] <livingdaylight> Q: can someone help me with sound issues i have here?
[08:19] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, adjust the settings and try playing
[08:19] <Azhi_Dahaka> already did that
[08:19] <kishan> ok
[08:19] <EightEleven> Carolyn: And the installer already gives errors?
[08:19] <kishan> so u tried both alsa and oss mixer too
[08:19] <livingdaylight> leagris, ping
[08:20] <leagris> vi livingdaylight
[08:20] <Azhi_Dahaka> yep
[08:20] <paotzu> BlueBird22: alright, install restricted-modules, put lt_serial and li_modem in /etc/modules
[08:20] <livingdaylight> leagris, i still have the same sound issue from before, thought you might be able  to suggest something :S
[08:20] <carolyn> EightEleven, No, the installer works fine. But the only installation destinations it gives are in the C directory (c:/)
[08:20] <paotzu> BlueBird22: er lt_modem
[08:20] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, did u install anything recently or remeber of chaning any multimedia settings
[08:21] <leagris> not sure livingdaylight, must leave for lunch
[08:21] <Azhi_Dahaka> i installed ubuntu for the first time like 1 hour ago
[08:21] <Azhi_Dahaka> since then, i had no sound
[08:21] <Azhi_Dahaka> sound worked ok on windows
[08:21] <livingdaylight> leagris, i just played Go on KGS www.gokgs.com it uses an applet and when i get out i have lost sound
[08:21] <dyrne> !sound | Azhi_Dahaka
[08:21] <ubotu> Azhi_Dahaka: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:21] <livingdaylight> leagris, oh, ok
[08:21] <kishan> oops so what sound card u have check that and work from that point
[08:22] <EightEleven> Carolyn: If you start wine, you can check in it's settings where it places c:\
[08:22] <LuAn> i
[08:22] <EightEleven> c:\ does not exist on Ubuntu
[08:22] <Azhi_Dahaka> dyrne: i already checked those sites
[08:22] <livingdaylight> any sound gurus on ubuntu here?
[08:22] <EightEleven> So they put it somewhere else
[08:22] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, when u log in through live cd do u get the sound i mean when u looging into ubuntu
[08:22] <Azhi_Dahaka> no
[08:22] <dyrne> carolyn: though by default itll be /home/$USER/.wine/drive_c or somesuch
[08:22] <dmb062082> God my lame questions do not stop... I am wanting to install a windows os again as vmware and the ammount of ram i have do not mix.... i have a straight ubuntu install... i know the proper way is to do a fresh install with windows, dedicate a new blank partition for a futufre ubuntu install and do it that way so the boot manager picks up both os;s but i have ubuntu the way i want it and do not want to do this, my question is can i us
[08:22] <dmb062082> e something like gparted to shrink my current partition (as its all of my hdd)  and install windows after ubuntu
[08:22] <Azhi_Dahaka> not with the livecd nor the local install
[08:22] <BlueBird22> paotzu i did that. from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent    but it says fatal error. despite u upgraded grub. and the 10-localrules. say at boot that its illegal .
[08:23] <ninjabob7> does anyone know about lego mindstorms?? ive tried everything i could find but i still can't get any firmware downloaded
[08:23] <Azhi_Dahaka> ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[08:23] <Bartman_> hey guys, I changed my host name on Ubuntu server by editing the /etc/hostname file. Now I get "unable to lookup mycomuter via gethostname"
[08:23] <Bartman_> ideas?
[08:23] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, u need to find out which sound card u have and try to search the forums
[08:23] <cornsnap> anyone know why I can't unload the prism54pci driver using rmmod
[08:23] <livingdaylight> I am looking for a sound guru for Ubuntu
[08:23] <livingdaylight> my sound keeps dying everytime i play a game
[08:23] <dyrne> Bartman_: edit /etc/hosts as well
[08:24] <Bartman_> ha
[08:24] <dyrne> Bartman_: youll have to do it from recovery
[08:24] <carolyn> dyrne, thanks! i wouldn't have thought to look for "drive_c"
[08:24] <aaron> hi
[08:25] <Bartman_> dooh
[08:25] <dyrne> carolyn: typically if you can write to it without sudo itll be in your home and usually in the apps config file
[08:26] <livingdaylight> Please, can someone help me?
[08:26] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=2706169 check this
[08:27] <aaron> will someone please help me? with my laptop
[08:28] <madduck> good evening
[08:28] <Bartman_> that stinks about the hosts file.. when I googled how to change the host name they just mention editing the hostname file
[08:28] <madduck> how do i mount a dm-crypt external hdd?
[08:28] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto   check this this will help u r card i think
[08:28] <madduck> cryptsetup says there is no support for aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 cipher
[08:28] <mariocesar_bo> Bartman_: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[08:28] <NTAuthority> blarg, why is the ubuntu kernel built with EXT2/EXT3 as module? :| or is that only an older version?
[08:28] <mariocesar_bo> sorry
[08:28] <madduck> mariocesar_bo: sudeoedit ...
[08:28] <livingdaylight> my sound keeps dying everytime i play a game
[08:28] <mariocesar_bo> sudo nano /etc/hosts
[08:29] <livingdaylight> can someone help me with sound issue here?
[08:29] <EightEleven> Aaron: what is wrong with your laptop?
[08:29] <BlueBird22> paotzu i did that. from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto/Lucent    but it says fatal error. despite u upgraded grub. and the 10-localrules. say at boot that its illegal .
[08:29] <aaron> eight wireless connection cant seem to get it
[08:30] <Bartman_> why on earth would I edit my fstab
[08:30] <paotzu> BlueBird22: hmmm, when I search for "ltmodem" and "ubuntu" I get a lot of stuff.  Some lists of problems too you should look at
[08:30] <mariocesar_bo> i say sorry
[08:30] <Bartman_> oh didn't see
[08:30] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/88570
[08:30] <mariocesar_bo> you want to edit hosts, $sudo nano /etc/hosts
[08:30] <dmb062082> so yeah can i re size withh gparted  move ubuntu to a/thee 2nd partition and install windows on the 1st?
[08:31] <EightEleven> Aaron: what version of Ubuntu are u using?
[08:31] <BlueBird22> paotzu iam hope less. me going
[08:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> so basically, it's an error and i'm screwed
[08:31] <arathald> Can anyone help me set up a VPN connection on Ubuntu please? (Urgent, I'm at work, and i need to get something from my School's network)
[08:31] <aaron> ubuntu 7.04
[08:32] <EightEleven> Aaron: Do you know the laptop-brand and wireless card brand?
[08:33] <aaron> eight its a gateway mx6455 with built in wireless
[08:34] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, please file a bug report this will help a lot
[08:34] <mildner> hello I configuered my WLAN  how can I safe it or better how can I put it into a autostart that it start correctly
[08:34] <livingdaylight> Any sound gurus here?
[08:34] <EightEleven> Aaron: if you open a terminal and type lspci, then you can find out which wireless card it holds
[08:34] <Pelo> !sound | livingdaylight
[08:34] <ubotu> livingdaylight: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:34] <livingdaylight> everytime i play a game of any sort I lose my music sound
[08:34] <Bartman_> thanks for the hosts tip.. worked...
[08:35] <Bartman_> none of the online placed mentioned hosts.. just hostname.. strange
[08:35] <Pelo> livingdaylight, that might be something you'll have more luck getting an answer to in the forum
[08:35] <mariocesar_bo> yep Bartman_
[08:35] <livingdaylight> Pelo, ok :S
[08:35] <aaron> eight broadcom corp bcm4381 ariforce one
[08:36] <Stormx2> arathald: VPN = ? Virtual Private Network? (guessing)
[08:36] <arathald> Stormx2: yes
[08:36] <Pelo> livingdaylight, are those windows game running on wine ? or linux games ?
[08:36] <RedACE> Stormx2: that's what wikipedia is for
[08:37] <Stormx2> RedACE: Wikipedia is not my bible.
[08:37] <EightEleven> Aaron: can you type iwconfig?
[08:37] <livingdaylight> Pelo,  one is a linux game, Enigma, do you know it. The other is Go on KGS which is simply through a java applet through the kgs website
[08:37] <Azhi_Dahaka> hi
[08:37] <Pelo> Stormx2, not a bible but a usefull resource for a quick answer
[08:37] <Hillview> hi all.  Checking out Ubuntu 7.0.4 (amd64), and the cd I burned reboots after a bit.. anyone happen to know if there's a known issue with it and my nvidia 7950gt card?  The same cd installed and ran fine on my other box.
[08:37] <aaron> yeah
[08:37] <Azhi_Dahaka> i restarted, and still tells me that the hda module is in use
[08:37] <RedACE> Stormx2, HERETIC!!
[08:37] <bharat862004>  how to connect my external ide hdd... i already have an usb to ide cable....  :)
[08:38] <RedACE> bharat862004, plug it in?
[08:38] <bharat862004> i am using ubuntu 6.06 LTS :)
[08:38] <Pelo> livingdaylight, check whatever resources  the enigma website might offer,  chances are this is not an uncommon problem and they have a fix for it
[08:38] <aaron> eight i did
[08:38] <Stormx2> arathald: Synaptic yields openvpn, tried that?
[08:38] <Bartman_> omg.. MS server 2003 r2 w/sp2, install DNS.. it's asking for a .msc file it says is on the SP2 cd... but the god damn sp2 was installed from windows update! so what the fuck.. I have to go get the sp2 iso now?
[08:38] <bharat862004> RedACE: then wat to do i hav done already??
[08:38] <EightEleven> Aaron: did it show you wireless extentions?
[08:38] <livingdaylight> Pelo, enigma is not a website its a linux game, Go is a simple applet game
[08:38] <arathald> Stormx2: openvpn only connects to openvpn servers
[08:39] <aaron> eight eth1 says broadcom 4318
[08:39] <EightEleven> Aaron: Good, then the driver is working.
[08:39] <aaron> okay
[08:39] <p1ls> how can i turn off ubuntu gnome in terminal?
[08:39] <arathald> VPN help anyone? I'm at a standstill at work and for some reason cant figure this out (I'm no newb, jsut having a brain fart)
[08:39] <p1ls> killall gonme, or gnome-desktop dosent work
[08:39] <Pelo> livingdaylight, the game must have developpers, and there is probabaly a site for the game with info on installation and playing and other resources  game related
[08:39] <bharat862004> RedACE: i have already plugged in my hdd but its not detecting it :)
[08:39] <EightEleven> Aaron: Is there a network sign on the right top of your screen?
[08:40] <mariocesar_bo> p1ls: $sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:40] <wols_> p1ls: killall X. as rot
[08:40] <wols_> root
[08:40] <Stormx2> Pelo: Of questionable accuracy.
[08:40] <livingdaylight> Pelo, dude the problem lies with Ubuntu
[08:40] <aaron> yeah no network connection i see that
[08:40] <RedACE> bharat: for my usb key all I did was plug it in.. I assumed it would be the same for a HD
[08:40] <wols_> mariocesar_bo: doesn't stop gnome
[08:40] <livingdaylight> Pelo, i'm sure you could play games and not lose your sound
[08:40] <sx66_> I currently have Ubuntu on my laptop, I want to partition winxp on it, how do I keep ubuntu?
[08:40] <mariocesar_bo> wols_: ouu _
[08:40] <kipp1> hey
[08:41] <elYase> hello, i have conected my new camera but feisty doesnt recognize it, what are my options?
[08:41] <wols_> sx66_: resize the ubuntu partition with parted. install XP, then reinstall grub
[08:41] <kipp1> is there a good how to on how to bond (team) to network cards together, so if I lose one network card the IP address will stay up
[08:41] <Bartman_> just got my new ESX server up and running! nice... but sheesh.. all these VM tools icons look the same and I keep clicking on wrong ones
[08:41] <wols_> elYase: check if it acts as a mass storage device. check dmesg output after pluging it in
[08:41] <Pelo> Stormx2, I think it can be relied upon to provide an accurate spelling out of the occasionnal accronyme
[08:41] <Azhi_Dahaka> tried EVERYTHING on those websites and no luck
[08:42] <bharat862004> RedACE: any ways thanks :(
[08:42] <vega-> what's the "correct" place to put options for kernel modules? /etc/modules ? /etc/modprobe.d/foo ?
[08:42] <sx66_> wols_ is parted an app? and what is grub?
[08:42] <wols_> kipp1: to the internet?
[08:42] <wols_> sx66_: gparted
[08:42] <RedACE> bharat: google for ubuntu 6.06 external hard drive or something?
[08:42] <Bartman_> gparted is the nice!
[08:42] <sx66_> wols_ what is gparted, an app?
[08:42] <Bartman_> gparted live cd is the nice too
[08:42] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, please file a bug report
[08:42] <kipp1> wols_: yeah, got a webserver which i want to connect to differenet blades on our BD
[08:42] <RedACE> gnu partition editor?
[08:43] <Azhi_Dahaka> there are lots and lots of bug reports on that
[08:43] <ubuntu-rocks> how do i manage the stuff that starts on bootup?
[08:43] <RedACE> oops.. gnome partition editor.
[08:43] <Stormx2> ubuntu-rocks: Depends what you are trying to do.
[08:43] <Bartman_> come on guys.. use google for simple questions.. at least try to look it up first...
[08:43] <Bartman_> ubuntu-rox. I know I've seen a ton of pages on doing that in ubuntu...
[08:43] <Bartman_> check the forums too
[08:43] <yeniklasor> When I set-up snergy, I couldn't connect my cliend-server. Anyone is using Snergy?
[08:43] <Hillview> can anyone recommend a partition layout for ubuntu?  100mb for /boot, ?? for / and the others?  I already have a /home part I want to keep.
[08:43] <ubuntu-rocks> i want to know what is loading on boot, e.g. shorewall firewall
[08:44] <aaron> eight i did download wireless assistant but when it loads i get a pop up that says you might have insufficient permissions for wireless assistan to fucntion properply dud you run it sudo?
[08:44] <Stormx2> Hillview: Unless you're building custom kernels, you don't need a partition for boot.
[08:44] <kishan> Azhi_Dahaka, most of them are solved may be urs is something difeerent bug report will help to improve the ubuntu so please take time to do that
[08:44] <Stormx2> Hillview: My setup: 10gb /, 7gb /home, 1.5gb swap
[08:44] <Pelo> Hillview, I am happy with  5-10 gig for / ,  2 gig for swap and the rest for /home
[08:45] <Rhynri> hillview - that's dependent on your disk - I'd go 2x ram for swap - 1/3rd space for / and the rest for /home
[08:45] <Azhi_Dahaka> so, ubuntu is flawed and doesn't work
[08:45] <EightEleven> Aaron: You could try to run it as root
[08:45] <Stormx2> Azhi_Dahaka: That's a bit sweeping. What's the issue?
[08:45] <mariocesar_bo> ubuntu-rocks: you can see boots scripts on /etc/init.d/
[08:45] <spikeb> flawed,yes.
[08:45] <EightEleven> (So sudo first)
[08:45] <elYase> wols_, do i put dmesg in terminal or its a kind of log file
[08:45] <RedACE> Azhi_Dahaka, yes. smash hard drive ---- NOW!
[08:45] <Pelo> Azhi_Dahaka, pretty much,  none of us have been able to manage it
[08:45] <Stormx2> ubuntu-rocks: Shorewall just configures netfilter. It doesn't load on bootup
[08:45] <Biggie-> Since i've upgraded to 2.6.20-16 my sound skipps horribly and my system is unresponsive when loading applications, going back to 2.6.20-15 everything is normal... where is the best place to report this bug and how should I fraze it?
[08:45] <mariocesar_bo> look for useless and do $sudo chmod -x uselessbootscript
[08:46] <Azhi_Dahaka> Stormx2: My speakers doesn't sound
[08:46] <Rhynri> anyone had trouble with getting an ext3 partition formatted under edgy?
[08:46] <Stormx2> Azhi_Dahaka: That's unpossible!
[08:46] <sx66_> On palm software, it recognizes it but where does the information sit, what app has it?
[08:46] <Azhi_Dahaka> The computer believes that it's sounding fine but it doesn't
[08:46] <wols_> elYase: both. but yes terminal
[08:46] <Rhynri> and/or problems with formatting external drives using Firewire-800
[08:46] <Azhi_Dahaka> tried everything
[08:46] <aaron> eight sorry how would i run wireless assistant under root?
[08:46] <Pelo> Biggie-, several ppl have had issues with the latest kernel, I recommend you boot the previous kernel for the time being and wait for the very likely patch to be released
[08:46] <mariocesar_bo> Azhi_Dahaka: how do you know, that?
[08:46] <Hillview> ty for the suggestions.  Now to see if I can get ff to install on this box.. I'm getting tired of compiling and recompiling with gentoo.
[08:46] <wols_> aaron: gksudo
[08:47] <Azhi_Dahaka> because all the audio controllers are set to max
[08:47] <Stormx2> Azhi_Dahaka: Okay. From the top. Speakers are plugged in, on, etc. Speakers are plugged into the line-out of your sound card, not line in or mic, yeah?
[08:47] <mariocesar_bo> Azhi_Dahaka: that's not a reason
[08:47] <Azhi_Dahaka> the compputer plays audio cds without a hicht and dmseg doesnt show any error with the audio card
[08:47] <RedACE> my audio controller goes to 11
[08:47] <Rhynri> oky
[08:47] <Rhynri> nevermind
[08:47] <elYase> wols_, this is the relevant output: [110210.467987]  usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[08:47] <elYase> [110210.697988]  usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:47] <Rhynri> i fixed it
[08:47] <Azhi_Dahaka> YES Stormx2
[08:47] <mariocesar_bo> look on sound preferences and look your devices
[08:47] <Stormx2> Azhi_Dahaka: Under windows, or under ubuntu?
[08:48] <elYase> wols_, can anything be done?
[08:48] <Azhi_Dahaka> ALREADY DID THAT mariocesar_bo
[08:48] <Rhynri> new question - anyone installed 7.04 to an external drive from a MacBook Pro?
[08:48] <Stormx2> Azhi_Dahaka: Please don't shout.
[08:48] <Tiradin> hmm
[08:48] <mariocesar_bo> how many devices, you have?
[08:48] <Azhi_Dahaka> there is no windows here... it needed a reinstall and i said scre this and tried ubuntu
[08:48] <Tiradin> Can someone help me? all sound has stopped working on Ubuntu..
[08:48] <wols_> elYase: unless you find an app which supports your device: I doN't think so
[08:48] <Azhi_Dahaka> looks fine, but there's no sound
[08:48] <Rhynri> ??
[08:48] <Stormx2> Azhi_Dahaka: So ubuntu does play sound when you play a CD?
[08:48] <Azhi_Dahaka> and there are a lot of bug reports on my card
[08:48] <Pelo> Tiradin, what did you do before it stoped ?
[08:49] <Azhi_Dahaka> ubuntu doesn't pays sound at all
[08:49] <Azhi_Dahaka> not even with the livecd or the system start
[08:49] <Tiradin> Pelo: I just switched to windows to use something, when I rebooted back into Ubuntu, no sound.
[08:49] <wols_> Azhi_Dahaka: what chip?
[08:49] <elYase> wols_, any place to look for, a kind o irc hardware chat or something
[08:49] <Pelo> Azhi_Dahaka, I have sound right now,  ubuntu plays sound you just need to get your config right
[08:49] <Azhi_Dahaka> but the edgy livecd did sounded
[08:49] <wols_> elYase: google
[08:49] <Azhi_Dahaka> ATI HDA SB450
[08:49] <Pelo> Tiradin,  had you rebooted since the last kernel update a few days ago ?
[08:49] <Tiradin> Pelo: I've had Ubuntu working for the passed couple of days, it hasn't had a problem with sound until now, and there is NO sound.
[08:49] <Stormx2> Azhi_Dahaka: How many sound cards does your computer have. Just one?
[08:49] <Azhi_Dahaka> good for you, Pelo
[08:49] <aaron> =/
[08:49] <Azhi_Dahaka> only one
[08:50] <Tiradin> Pelo: It's a fresh installation and newly updated as far as I know, let me check my updates.
[08:50] <wols_> Azhi_Dahaka: update to feisty imho. much higher chance of working
[08:50] <Stormx2> !sound | Azhi_Dahaka
[08:50] <ubotu> Azhi_Dahaka: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:50] <yeniklasor> When I set-up snergy, I couldn't connect my cliend-server. Anyone is using Snergy?
[08:50] <Stormx2> Azhi_Dahaka: Check that page.
[08:50] <Pelo> Tiradin, there was a kernel update a few days ago, many ppl are having problems,  try booting the previous kernel and see if you have sound
[08:50] <Azhi_Dahaka> Stormx2: already checked that
[08:50] <Azhi_Dahaka> last one is dead
[08:50] <Tiradin> Pelo: Could you quickly explain to me how to do that?
[08:50] <ToN_D2> can someone help me? gset-kiba doesn't working and when i try at terminal show this message [DEBUG: gset-kiba.c @ line:146]  no valid .schema file(s) found
[08:51] <Azhi_Dahaka> second one is old
[08:51] <aaron> i tryed gksudo wireless assistant but nothing pops up when i do it
[08:51] <Azhi_Dahaka> tried the updated version and no luck
[08:51] <udusu> wols_: still I don't have sound, I've been looking for almost 1 hour on those links but I didn't get any info, if you need some details please tell me what you're looking for, I really need sound
[08:51] <wols_> aaron: learn to type commands proprely. I am sure a "wireless assistant" is not in ubuntu
[08:51] <Pelo> Tiradin, when you boot the computer you have a boot menu with the os you can boot in it,  since the update you should have twice as many ubuntu entries,   boot the ubuntu one ending in .15
[08:52] <Pelo> Tiradin, should be the 3rd one down
[08:52] <Tiradin> Pelo: Thank you, one minute.
[08:52] <wols_> udusu: first the sound chip
[08:52] <wols_> udusu: and what you did until now
[08:52] <ToN_D2> someone?
[08:52] <ToN_D2> [DEBUG: gset-kiba.c @ line:146]  no valid .schema file(s) found
[08:52] <ToN_D2> :(
[08:52] <Azhi_Dahaka> how can i use rmmod when the mod is in use?
[08:53] <Stormx2> ToN_D2: Does this stop it from working?
[08:53] <wols_> Azhi_Dahaka: remove the stuff that uses it too
[08:53] <udusu> wols_: how can I check what sound card?
[08:53] <wols_> udusu: lspci
[08:53] <ToN_D2> Stormx2 never worked :\ kiba-dock work, but gset-kiba doesn't
[08:53] <Azhi_Dahaka> i restartedthere's nothing that i started that is using it
[08:53] <ToN_D2> Stormx2 i cant configure the kiba =\
[08:54] <Harley_Dog> I have installed netatalk on dapper  - finally.  But none of my machines can connect to it.  Anyone have any info on setup/config settings?
[08:54] <Azhi_Dahaka> i just restarted, executed the command and is in use
[08:54] <Stormx2> ToN_D2: Google the error.... or check ubuntuforums.org?
[08:54] <arathald> does anyone know how to set up VPN in linux? I need a peice of software from my school network for work, this is very urgent, please help me
[08:54] <Tiradin> Pelo: I now have sound... is it a problem in the kernel?
[08:54] <r00tintheb0x> Transferred: RHEL4-U5-i386-ES-disc2.iso 624.98 MB in 1 minute 0 seconds (10.29 MB/s)
[08:54] <r00tintheb0x> w00t!!!
[08:54] <ToN_D2> yeap
[08:54] <ToN_D2> =\
[08:54] <Azhi_Dahaka> is there a way to find what is using the module?
[08:54] <royel> Can someone tell me if there is a way to set OpenOffice to doublespace automatically, or is there a IRC channel I can ask this question in?
[08:54] <yeniklasor> !snergy
[08:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snergy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:54] <udusu> /t
[08:54] <cypher1> Azhi_Dahaka, lsmod will give who are all dependent on the module
[08:54] <Pelo> Tiradin, probably, you'Re not the first person to have issues,  it might just be taht you need to reconfigure the audio settings in the new kernel,  what  audio card do you have ?
[08:55] <Tiradin> Pelo: It's an SiS integrated sound card.
[08:55] <ToN_D2> Stormx2 i cant find :\
[08:55] <udusu> wols_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23635/
[08:55] <Tiradin> Pelo: Sorry, it's integrated on a mobo with SiS chipset :P
[08:55] <carolyn> ok, i converted the file just fine, but I can't seem to copy (by either drag'n'drop or copy/paste) the ISO file over to either my external HD or my OS X HD
[08:55] <Stormx2> r00tintheb0x: I envy you :(
[08:55] <ToN_D2> Stormx2 here is my last chance :\
[08:55] <r00tintheb0x> lol
[08:55] <Pelo> Tiradin, did you need to do anyting special to get the sound working the on the clean install ?
[08:55] <ssn> hi
[08:55] <Tiradin> Pelo: No, it just seemed to work on its own.
[08:55] <r00tintheb0x> hi ssn
[08:56] <ci_omegadog_> what are the advantages of using ubutu as a server vs debian?
[08:56] <ci_omegadog_> does anyone here use ubuntu as a server?
[08:56] <ssn> I changed some video options in planet penguin racer, and now it wont start anymore
[08:56] <r00tintheb0x> ci_omegadog_, the software is more up-to-date
[08:56] <r00tintheb0x> Version wise.
[08:56] <r00tintheb0x> Debian software usually tends to be updated less often.
[08:56] <ssn> how do i reset ppracer?
[08:56] <r00tintheb0x> Transfer queue completed
[08:56] <r00tintheb0x> Transferred 4 files totaling 1.94 GB in 3 minutes 50 seconds (8.81 MB/s)
[08:56] <r00tintheb0x> w000000000000000000000000000t!
[08:56] <abel> hola?
[08:56] <Tiradin> O_O
[08:56] <lockd> ci_omegadog_: what r00tintheb0x said, making it easier to get apps (like Wikimedia, PHP scripts, etc) working
[08:56] <Pelo> Tiradin, then assume it is a problem with the kernel,  I suggest you make an edit in /boot/grub/menu.lst  so the working kernel entries are at the top of the list, taht way you will boot the working kernel and you will still be able to get the next update when it come
[08:56] <Stormx2> r00tintheb0x: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:57] <r00tintheb0x> Sorry Stormx2
[08:57] <r00tintheb0x> yes, and more selection ci_omegadog_
[08:57] <ci_omegadog_> r00tintheb0x lockd: does ubuntu use the same administration softare
[08:57] <r00tintheb0x> ci_omegadog_, yes... for the most part.
[08:57] <grinvi> ;;
[08:57] <ci_omegadog_> from the command line?
[08:57] <RedACE> wikimedia isn't an app
[08:57] <r00tintheb0x> ci_omegadog_, yes... for the most part.
[08:57] <ssn> does anyone know how to reset the planet penguin configuration?
[08:57] <grodius> Does anyone know how to get keyboard shortcuts to work right when Beryl is running?
[08:57] <udusu> wols_: still here?
[08:57] <Tiradin> Pelo: What's the command for editing again? I'm having a brain fart.
[08:57] <robespierre> greetings. I just got my Dell inspiron w/ Fiesty installed. First thing I did was upgrade everything then reboot, now I get a "Cannot mount selected partition" message, any ideas?
[08:57] <RedACE> mediawiki is the software written by wikimedia
[08:58] <r00tintheb0x> ssn look inside your home directory for .planetpengiun or something of that nature.
[08:58] <bedazzled> hi
[08:58] <carolyn> help?how do i transfer a file from the desktop to an external HD?
[08:58] <r00tintheb0x> Im not sure where it is but that'd be my 1st guess.
[08:58] <Pelo> Tiradin,  sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst   just move the entries to the top of the list,  donT' remove any of them , and make sure you get all the lines
[08:58] <ci_omegadog_> r00tintheb0x: where would i learn more about Ubutu specific server administration?
[08:58] <RedACE> cp
[08:58] <wols_> udusu: answer all my questions
[08:58] <bedazzled> how can i make apt to NOT save packages at all in the /var cache ?
[08:58] <Tiradin> thank you.
[08:58] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, cp -arfvp /place/files/are /place/files/are/going
[08:58] <kane77> each time I unmount my usb stick it throws an error message that it cannot unmount it.. but afterwards the disk is unmounted... what's with it?
[08:58] <Pelo> bedazzled, man apt
[08:58] <r00tintheb0x> ci_omegadog_, they sell a Ubuntu Server book on Amazon.com
[08:59] <RedACE> apt-config?
[08:59] <r00tintheb0x> Or you can learn more @ http://ubuntuforums.rog
[08:59] <r00tintheb0x> Or you can learn more @ http://ubuntuforums.org *
[08:59] <udusu> wols_: I pasted you my lspci output and I didn't do anything
[08:59] <Pelo> ci_omegadog_, try this  http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/unleashed/
[08:59] <bedazzled_> Pelo, man apt doesn't say anything about this...
[08:59] <wols_> udusu: then start doing something. I won't do your full sound isntall for your. if you want that: hire a consultant
[08:59] <RedACE> apt-config dump
[08:59] <ci_omegadog_> oh, i didn't realize there was an Ubuntu Server Edition
[08:59] <RedACE> apt-config dump | grep cache
[09:00] <ci_omegadog_> sweet!
[09:00] <wols_> udusu: there is easy to understand info in the ubotu factoid
[09:00] <nikin> bedazzled: it has to cache files after download to install AFAIK
[09:00] <ci_omegadog_> Pelo: thank you for the link
[09:00] <Pelo> bedazzled_, apt-get clean,  apt-get autoclean
[09:00] <aleksanteri> hi, how can i pack/unpack an X11 mouse theme? i found them at /etc/X11/cursors but don't know how to open them
[09:00] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, the file is Read-Only...how do I change permissions?
[09:00] <Tiradin> Pelo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23636/ <---- that is my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:00] <udusu> wols_: I've been looking on those links but I didn't get anything useful.
[09:00] <bedazzled_> RedACE, i don't want to change the dir, i want to not save packages nowhere
[09:00] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, become root by issuing "sudo -i"
[09:00] <Tiradin> Does it look right to you?
[09:01] <Pelo> Tiradin, why are you showing it to me ?
[09:01] <bedazzled_> Pelo, not manually, permanently please :)
[09:01] <bedazzled_> i use aptitude..
[09:01] <aaron> hmm
[09:01] <RedACE> bedazzled_, they aren't saved nowhere. they're saved in /var/apt/cache
[09:01] <Tiradin> Pelo: I'm really not sure what you meant by moving the entries to the top of the list... the only entries are the kernel entreis :/
[09:01] <RedACE> err /var/cache/apt rather
[09:01] <r00tintheb0x> copy it like that, then you can "chown -R user.group filesyouwanttochangeownershipof (mind you -R means recursively) (spelling)
[09:01] <r00tintheb0x> car
[09:01] <Tiradin> Pelo: And if something need to be moved, i'm not sure what! :P
[09:01] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn,
[09:01] <r00tintheb0x> ^^^^^^^^^
[09:01] <Pelo> Tiradin, hold on
[09:01] <VR_> is it possible to aptitude purge nautilus and install thunar instead? or would dependencies be all out of whack if nautilus was removed?
[09:01] <Tiradin> Pelo: thank you
[09:01] <r00tintheb0x> VR_, yes.
[09:02] <VR_> r00tintheb0x: yes to what?
[09:02] <bedazzled_> RedACE, they are saved in /var/cache/apt/archives, those damned *.deb files :)
[09:02] <nikin> bedazzled: and if you symlink the cash dir to /tmp?
[09:02] <r00tintheb0x> VR_, "aptitude pruge nautilus && aptitude install thundar"
[09:02] <r00tintheb0x> =)
[09:02] <RedACE> bedazzled_, yes
[09:02] <VR_> r00tintheb0x: there would be no dependency issues?
[09:02] <r00tintheb0x> "It's so easy Grandpa!"
[09:02] <ci_omegadog_> r00tintheb0x Pelo lockd thank you for the help, information, and direction
[09:02] <r00tintheb0x> VR_, apt resolves them.
[09:02] <Pelo> Tiradin, grab lines 138 to 153  and move them before line 126
[09:02] <r00tintheb0x> no problem ci_omegadog_
[09:02] <bedazzled_> nikin, is that an ugly hack? :P
[09:02] <wols_> r00tintheb0x: what is thundar?
[09:03] <VR_> r00tintheb0x: alright, thank you sir
[09:03] <RedACE> apt-get clean ?
[09:03] <r00tintheb0x> wolki, http://google.com
[09:03] <Tiradin> Pelo: Thank you for being precise, sorry for bein a nub :P
[09:03] <r00tintheb0x> VR_, no problem
[09:03] <bedazzled_> emerge and yum has an option to not save the packages, APT doesn't? o_O
[09:03] <r00tintheb0x> wols_, google.com knows
[09:03] <nikin> bedazzled_: ugly for sure.... :D hack.... no, i dont think.
[09:03] <Pelo> Tiradin, no problem
[09:03] <wols_> r00tintheb0x: there is no such thing as thundar. ther is thunar tho
[09:03] <Torahteen> This may require me going to a different chat room, but where can I download the manpages for the linux syscalls? I try something like man 2 read and get nothing
[09:03] <r00tintheb0x> whatever man.
[09:03] <r00tintheb0x> Nitpick why dont you.
[09:03] <wols_> r00tintheb0x: I know it does. since you obviously don't :P
[09:03] <r00tintheb0x> DURTY DURRR!
[09:03] <qman> hey guys, I have a serious problem :(
[09:03] <aleksanteri> how can i pack/unpack an X11 mouse theme? i found them at /etc/X11/cursors but don't know how to open them
[09:04] <qman> I installed the latest kernel update, rebooted, and now I get grub error 22: no such partition
[09:04] <wols_> r00tintheb0x: telling people who are obvously new false info is kinda pointless. esepcially there is no pruge either
[09:04] <VR_> wols_: yes, there IS a purge, son
[09:04] <r00tintheb0x> wols_, you knew what i was talking about... so i ASSUMED a human that isnt a complete moron could have figured it out.
[09:04] <phlaegel> anybody know the status of hubackup? is it ready for use by non-technical users? it looks great, I'm just wondering about reliability, etc...
[09:04] <VR_> wols_: you just have no idea
[09:04] <bedazzled_> so it's impossible?
[09:04] <Azhi_Dahaka> who patches those bugs?
[09:04] <wols_> VR_: he said "pruge"
[09:04] <Pelo> !abuse | r00tintheb0x
[09:04] <ubotu> r00tintheb0x: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:04] <r00tintheb0x> wols_, instead of nitpicking my help, why dont you try and help someone instead of calling out others flaws to make yourself look superior.
[09:04] <aaron> =/
[09:04] <wols_> VR_: and there is no thundar
[09:05] <r00tintheb0x> thanks.
[09:05] <Torahteen> This may require me going to a different chat room, but where can I download the manpages for the linux syscalls? I try something like man 2 read and get nothing
[09:05] <lockd> aleksanteri: the images are in /usr/share/icons/*/cursors
[09:05] <VR_> wols_: theyre just typos, dear chum.
[09:05] <wols_> r00tintheb0x: I told you so YOU could correct it with him
[09:05] <r00tintheb0x> Pelo, im not getting help... im trying to offer help and wols_ here is trying to get on my nerves.
[09:05] <wols_> Torahteen: libc6-dev perhaps?
[09:05] <nikin> bedazzled_: there is a cache limit
[09:05] <wols_> erm manpages-dev. mea culpa
[09:05] <Torahteen> TY, I'll try it
[09:05] <palmino> hello
[09:05] <Azhi_Dahaka> there are lots and lots of bug reports for my audio card
[09:05] <r00tintheb0x> hi palmino
[09:05] <wols_> libc6-dev is different
[09:05] <nikin> see "man apt.conf"
[09:05] <r00tintheb0x> okay Pelo sorry.
[09:05] <aaron> help
[09:06] <Azhi_Dahaka> looks like ubuntu 7.04 sucks on audio suppoer
[09:06] <Azhi_Dahaka> support
[09:06] <r00tintheb0x> aaron, whats the problem.
[09:06] <Pelo> aaron, we need a little more then that to be able to help you
[09:06] <RedACE> looks like your audio card's manufacturer sucks for driver support?
[09:06] <wols_> Azhi_Dahaka: more like your soundcard sucks. *ducks*
[09:06] <aaron> wireless laptop issues gah
[09:06] <wols_> Azhi_Dahaka: I've seen lots of problems with that one before unfortunately
[09:06] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, argh. i get the following error :`/home/carolyn/Desktop/Windoze.iso' -> `/media//Windoze.iso'
[09:06] <carolyn> cp: cannot create regular file `/media/fireHOSE/Windoze.iso': Read-only file system
[09:06] <carolyn> :
[09:06] <Pelo> aaron, a bit more info please, what issue
[09:06] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, you have an extra slash in there.
[09:07] <qman> :(
[09:07] <qman> I booted a live CD and my partition seems fine, but it won't boot
[09:07] <RedACE> carolyn: is that an NTFS partition you're trying to copy to?
[09:07] <qman> all the files are there
[09:07] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, its very easy. "cp -arfvp /place/files/areSPACE/place/filesare/going
[09:07] <Pelo> aaron, in the channel will be fine,  no need to /notive me with this, say it so every one can see,  wireless I assume ?
[09:07] <ferronica> when i saw my computer , here ubuntu showing me two Extra CD-ROM ICON which is not added in my system, i have only DVD-RW and CD-RW and only floopy drive.CD-ROM 1 and CD-ROM 2 which is 100% wrong there is no CD-ROM in my system installed. how to fix this problem ???
[09:07] <palmino> what kind of scheduler is compiled into Ubuntu Studio?
[09:08] <Halai> hi there, i have a question. i just installed  samsung flatscreen lcd syncmaster 225bw. wondering how to get my OS to recognize it so i can go into higher resolutions than 1024x768 and higher refresh rates?
[09:08] <r00tintheb0x> ferronica, do you have an ISO mounted?
[09:08] <aaron> pelo yeah i know the driver is installed but from there i havent a clue why im not getting wireless internet
[09:08] <Pelo> ferronica,  they are just mounting points , ignore them
[09:08] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, I did exactly that. It won't let me change permissions on my external. and the external is an OS X hd (so no, i don't think it's NTFS)
[09:08] <Pelo> !wifi |  aaron  review this
[09:08] <ubotu> aaron  review this: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:08] <r00tintheb0x> Halai, http://www.ubuntuforums.org is flooded with information on LCD's.
[09:08] <tondar> hey all
[09:08] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, are you root?
[09:09] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, and as for the extra slash, that's not in my original command, so idk how it got there. yes, i'm in root
[09:09] <r00tintheb0x> wow
[09:09] <ferronica> Pelo: why ubuntu showing me
[09:09] <lockd> is there a good way to get klik working with FUSE?
[09:09] <r00tintheb0x> try this carolyn
[09:09] <r00tintheb0x> "touch /place/where/hdd/is/mounted/test
[09:09] <r00tintheb0x> "
[09:09] <tondar> how could I have a desktop menu system so when I right click the desktop I get a menu for apps and other stuff
[09:09] <tondar> ?
[09:09] <lockd> klik uses regular loopback devices which you can run out of, and I'd rather just use fuse loopbacks
[09:09] <r00tintheb0x> Are you sure you're root carolyn ?
[09:09] <grodius> Does anyone know how to get keyboard shortcuts to work right when Beryl is running?
[09:09] <Pelo> ferronica, they are there so ubuntu has someting to mout the cdroms and dvds to ,  we all have them , just ignore them it's not big deal
[09:09] <r00tintheb0x> chattr may be enabled carolyn, im not too fimiliar with OSX.
[09:10] <klav>  tondar: fluxbox? black box?
[09:10] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, can you see the files from command line?
[09:10] <tondar> klav: what are those? apps?
[09:10] <carolyn> root@carolyns-laptop:~# touch '/media/fireHOSE'  [[enter] ]  touch: setting times of `/media/fireHOSE': Read-only file system
[09:10] <ferronica> Pelo: ok
[09:10] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, "mount -o remount,rw /mount/point"
[09:10] <tondar> grodius: gimme a wink if you find the solution ;)
[09:11] <klav> tondar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fluxbox
[09:11] <lockd> carolyn: i think you need hfsutils for OS X partitions
[09:11] <tondar> klav: already there, thanks
[09:11] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, says it's already mounted
[09:11] <Azhi_Dahaka> i need to run this
[09:11] <Azhi_Dahaka>  			 				sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel
[09:11] <Azhi_Dahaka> sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto
[09:11] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, what is the mount point it is mounted at?
[09:12] <carolyn> lockd, will that enable me to copy files onto it from ubuntu
[09:12] <Pelo> Tiradin, make sure you test the new grub menu
[09:12] <Azhi_Dahaka> however, the first command told me that i cant remove the moduel because it's in use
[09:12] <Tiradin> Pelo: I shall in a minute, thank you
[09:12] <Azhi_Dahaka> how can i force it to quit?
[09:12] <TheoMurpse> Ever since I installed Ubuntu, my laptop is getting very, very hot. I just noticed that the fan never comes on! How can I correct this? When I exit Ubuntu and boot into XP, the fan comes on because the laptop is hot.
[09:12] <r00tintheb0x> maybe he's right carolyn like i said... im not fimiliar with OSX :)
[09:13] <tondar> klav: which do you prefer?
[09:13] <tondar> klav: can I run them in a VM machine??
[09:13] <lockd> carolyn: not sure but I think so
[09:13] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, root@carolyns-laptop:~# mount -O remount,rw /mount/point [[ENTER] ]  [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab [[ENTER] ]  mount: can't find /mount/point in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:13] <Pelo> TheoMurpse,  you are not the first person to mention this, but I donT' know what the fix is ,  try doing a search in the forum, I am sure it is mentionned
[09:14] <Azhi_Dahaka> guys
[09:14] <Azhi_Dahaka> any help?
[09:14] <Pelo> TheoMurpse,  this link contains info on setting up sensors, fancontrol and cpufreq, it might help you as well  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[09:14] <VR_> !codecs
[09:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:14] <TheoMurpse> pele, thanks, i'll check that out
[09:15] <Pelo> Azhi_Dahaka, I donT' personnaly know but this guide might contain theinfo you need, it has everything else   http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/unleashed/
[09:15] <Pelo> star
[09:15] <kjetil> hello
[09:15] <Pelo> kjetil, hello
[09:15] <Azhi_Dahaka> i need to remove a module but it is in use by who-knows-what
[09:16] <Azhi_Dahaka> is there a way to force it?
[09:16] <PurpZeY> Is it possible to increase the size of my pointer in gnome, beyond replacing the theme?
[09:16] <radioman> hey
[09:16] <Pelo> Azhi_Dahaka, did you try looking in man modprobe for infor on how to kill a module ? before removing it ?
[09:17] <EightEleven> Aaron: Sorry, I got a phonecall from my mother, she had a virus in her email.
[09:17] <EightEleven> :)
[09:17] <Pelo> EightEleven, not in ubuntu ?
[09:17] <aaron> ooo eight
[09:17] <TheoMurpse> pelo: Does the Ubuntu Guide load for you? I've been waiting and the site isn't loading (but I'm able to go to other sites, so it's not my wireless connection.
[09:17] <EightEleven> Aaron: can you type iwlist scanning?
[09:17] <r00tintheb0x> ok carolyn that error is different than what you said before
[09:17] <r00tintheb0x> try this
[09:17] <EightEleven> Pelo: In her webmail
[09:17] <EightEleven> But it was not really a virus
[09:17] <Azhi_Dahaka> i tried EVERTYTHING on those forums
[09:17] <aaron> eight good news i got it to find my wireless router but it shows 0 connection
[09:17] <Pelo> TheoMurpse,  the guide or the wiki ?
[09:17] <r00tintheb0x> mount -O remount,rw /device/name
[09:18] <r00tintheb0x> like
[09:18] <aleksanteri> ... how can i pack/unpack an X11 mouse theme? i found them at /etc/X11/cursors but don't know how to open them
[09:18] <EightEleven> She somehow managed to get herself on a mailinglist
[09:18] <r00tintheb0x> mount -O remount,rw /dev/sda1
[09:18] <TheoMurpse> Pelo, the link you gave me.
[09:18] <r00tintheb0x> or what not
[09:18] <qman> eh, I figured it out
[09:18] <r00tintheb0x> you may carolyn have to
[09:18] <Pelo> TheoMurpse, let me check
[09:18] <TheoMurpse> pelo at this addy http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[09:18] <qman> for some reason, it changed root hd
[09:18] <r00tintheb0x> mount -O remount,rw /device/name /mount/point
[09:18] <qman> for some reason, it changed root hd(0,1) to root hd(0,2)
[09:18] <EightEleven> Aaron: maybe you can move closer to your router?
[09:18] <Pelo> TheoMurpse, yeah seems a tad on the slow side,
[09:18] <Azhi_Dahaka> i'm getting crazy
[09:18] <lockd> is it better to install things via CPAN or apt-get, if available?
[09:18] <aaron> eight its as close as it can be right now
[09:19] <Slyboots> H?i
[09:19] <BlueBird22> nickrud i have lost hope. tried every thing. i cant even have build-essential. coz i dont have internet on linux.
[09:19] <aaron> eight im prolly less than 5 feet away from the router right nwo
[09:19] <tritium> lockd: from ubuntu repos is always preferable
[09:19] <Pelo> TheoMurpse, accept the file, it' sthe same wiki I saved a copy
[09:19] <assasukasse> i have a big problem, after the kernel upgrade ekiga and many other programs refuse to start
[09:19] <iMilad> I want to reinstall Grub, but I cannot use the Live CD because it can't login to X mode! is there anyway to reinstall Grub using Alternate CD? Do u know any other solution?
[09:19] <assasukasse> dont' give any error just hangs there
[09:19] <TheoMurpse> Pelo, thanks. I'll check it out now
[09:19] <aaron> hey eight brb i gotta go grab the plug for my laptop
[09:20] <EightEleven> Aaron: Are u using WPA or WEP?
[09:20] <BlueBird22> paotzu - i have lost hope. tried every thing. i cant even have build-essential. coz i dont have internet on linux.
[09:20] <EightEleven> ok
[09:20] <Slyboots> Anyone know what could cause a READ DISK INFOMATION failed - Input/Output error in growisofs?
[09:20] <PCBSD> http://www.oook.cz/screenshots/takeittux2.png
[09:20] <Torahteen> Anyone know where I can find the unistd.h file?
[09:20] <lockd> tritium: well, should I go out of my way to install the debs fom ubuntu repos?
[09:20] <bknitram> BlueBird22, What are you trying to do?
[09:20] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, still with me? If you are... im going to step outside and have a cig. I'll be back in about 5 mins.
[09:20] <roryy> r00tintheb0x: do you perhaps mean -o ? -O appears to be for limiting which set of filesystems the -a argument is applied to (see 'man mount')
[09:20] <jrib> BlueBird22: build-essential is on the alternate cd (which shows up as a repository if you put it on your drive)
[09:20] <Pelo> !grub | iMilad  check in here for info,
[09:20] <ubotu> iMilad  check in here for info,: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:20] <Slyboots> Trying to burn a DVD-Image in k3b. worked fine up till nowexcept it falls over with that error message
[09:20] <r00tintheb0x> Yes, thanks roryy that was a mistype
[09:20] <r00tintheb0x> mount -o remount,rw /device/name /mount/point
[09:20] <r00tintheb0x> good eyes roryy :)
[09:20] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, yeah, here. i'll wait
[09:21] <r00tintheb0x> \/clear
[09:21] <r00tintheb0x> okay carolyn i'll brb
[09:21] <tritium> lockd: why is it out of the way?
[09:21] <sx66_> I had formatted back to WINXP and there is a GRUB error 17y, what is the problem?
[09:21] <Torahteen> Anyone know where I can find unistd.h?
[09:21] <zOap_> anyone remember how I can take control over my irc user? I've logged out and now I can't get it back.. wasnt there someting with "nickserv release" or something?
[09:21] <Azhi_Dahaka> why is alsaconf missing?
[09:21] <Torahteen> On a typical ubuntu install?
[09:21] <Azhi_Dahaka> i just installed
[09:21] <KennethP_> Torahteen: locate <filename>
[09:21] <paotzu> BlueBird22: I never had this much trouble putting the ltmodem stuff in
[09:21] <Pelo> Slyboots, sounds like a bad cd or maybe a drive problem  , doesn'T actualy mean that the cd didnt, finish burning just that the prog is having problem verifying it ,  try it see if it works
[09:21] <Torahteen> Oh, didn't know that was a file XD
[09:21] <Torahteen> Er... command lol
[09:22] <roryy> Torahteen: if you don't have that file (not unlikely), you can search packages for specific files at packages.ubuntu.com
[09:22] <omegacenti> crap cant remember identify pass.
[09:22] <omegacenti> oy.
[09:22] <jrib> Torahteen: you probably want to install build-essential
[09:22] <TheoMurpse> Pelo, I did cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature, and it's reporting 0 degrees C. I think ACPI isn't working. It gets the trip points of 90 and 110 C, but isn't actually able to get the temperature I think.
[09:22] <Torahteen> TY :D
[09:22] <Slyboots> Pelo: It does nto even *start* burning, looks at the disk infomation then bombs out
[09:22] <Pelo> TheoMurpse, I think you need to install and configure the sensors first
[09:22] <lockd> tritium: well, it's easier to press enter when cpan offers to follow the dependencies
[09:22] <p47> does anyone know how can I know when a .com will be down ?
[09:23] <Slyboots> Pelo: Tried 4 differnet disks, they all previously worked fine untill now, and the drive has shown on issues up to this point
[09:23] <TheoMurpse> Pelo, OK, I will investigate in the wiki you gave me. Thanks.
[09:23] <wols_> Pelo: acpi _should_ work without this
[09:23] <Pelo> Slyboots, bad burner ,
[09:23] <wols_> Pelo: no sensors
[09:23] <tritium> lockd: apt-get handles dependencies
[09:23] <sx66_> I had formatted back to WINXP and there is a GRUB error 17y, what is the problem?
[09:23] <wols_> Pelo: e.g. my notebook handles acpi temps without any sensors stuff at all
[09:23] <Slyboots> Pelo: Im sure it did not just totaly and utterly break in the last 43 seconds
[09:23] <linux1> hiya pplim using feisty(gnome) and i can drag and drop file or folders from any drives ,i can create folders and delete but no drag and drop any idea whats up ppl
[09:23] <aaron> okay eight im back
[09:23] <lockd> tritium: right, but the package isn't available in apt-get - just dependencies of the package
[09:23] <wols_> 1grub
[09:23] <wols_> !grub
[09:23] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:23] <p47> does anyone know how can I know when a .com will be expired ?
[09:23] <kdubois_> anyone know anything about dvb subtitles and vlc?
[09:23] <wols_> p47: whous domain.com
[09:24] <tritium> lockd: up to you, based on your wants/needs
[09:24] <wols_> p47: whois domain.com
[09:24] <TheoMurpse> wols_ my cooling_mode is set to Passive and polling is disabled within the /proc/ACPI/thermal_zone/...
[09:24] <Azhi_Dahaka> WHY???? I can't remove that module and the only windows opened are Firefox, gaim and console
[09:24] <wols_> Azhi_Dahaka: paste lsmod output please
[09:24] <Pelo> Slyboots, not totaly , but just enought not to be able to burn , in anycase that 's all I have for you , if noone else has anyother ideas try the forum
[09:24] <Azhi_Dahaka> how can i find who is using the sound output to kill that sucker????
[09:24] <KevinOman> can I convert a rpm to a deb?
[09:24] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok
[09:24] <wols_> Azhi_Dahaka: also check if anything has opened /dev/snd stuff or /dev/dsp
[09:24] <Slyboots> Pelo: Thanks, Big help :P
[09:25] <tritium> KevinOman: yes, with alien.  But, it would be preferable to use a native .deb
[09:25] <silent_> oh god... i have to install Windows today... unless anyone here is willing to program complete dx10 and full exe compatibility into WINE
[09:25] <BlueBird22> bknitram jrib paotzu iam trying to make my lucent winmodem work one kubuntu. i can use pkg manager as i dont have interenet onn there. (build-essential is needed many times) i tired ltmodem. i tried smartlink .  all. no luck. i need an easy . easy way in currect situation. i have lucent/agere .dsp
[09:25] <omegacenti> Yep, can't remember.
[09:25] <Pelo> Slyboots, ok next time I will just ignore you like everyone else did
[09:25] <p47> wols_: it says tah I have to go to internic nad when I go to internic it says me the same thing that appears in the console
[09:25] <jrib> BlueBird22: you didn't read what I said
[09:25] <Azhi_Dahaka> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23637/
[09:25] <KevinOman> tritium ok thanks
[09:25] <aaron> im back
[09:25] <BlueBird22> jrib yes. i just replied you
[09:25] <lockd> tritium: is there a way to convert a source only package into a deb - anything but checkinstall
[09:25] <tritium> KevinOman: which package?
[09:25] <wols_> p47: which domain?
[09:25] <jrib> BlueBird22: build-essential is on the alternate cd (which shows up as a repository if you put it on your drive)
[09:26] <tritium> lockd: traditional packaging
[09:26] <p47> www.imperioazteca.net
[09:26] <jrib> BlueBird22: so... you *can* get build-essential
[09:26] <BlueBird22> jrib i dont have alternate cd. i have live cd
[09:26] <Azhi_Dahaka> wols, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23637/
[09:26] <wols_> p47: that is not a com. and the www part is wrong. not used there
[09:26] <jrib> BlueBird22: so burn the alternate cd
[09:26] <PurpZeY> jrib: I am jumping in, and might misunderstand...It's on the LiveCD also...Learned that the hardway.
[09:26] <BlueBird22> jrib i have to dl it .. all over. i have 56k
[09:26] <wols_> p47: whois imperioazteca.net|grep -i exp
[09:26] <jrib> BlueBird22: so leave it overnight.  Or give what PurpZeY said a try
[09:26] <p47> ok
[09:27] <omegacenti> Finally.
[09:27] <jrib> !offline > BlueBird22 (see the private message from ubotu)
[09:27] <EightEleven> Aaron: are u using WEP or WPA?
[09:27] <p47> wols_: excellent ! thank's
[09:27] <wols_> Azhi_Dahaka: what are you trying to rmmod and what is the error?
[09:27] <jrib> BlueBird22: that link may save you some time
[09:27] <aaron> eight right now its open
[09:27] <omegacenti> Alright, trying to remember how to restart the graphical interface to get a resolution change.
[09:27] <BlueBird22> jrib dont i have any other easy alternatives to install my modem in linux?
[09:27] <Azhi_Dahaka> sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel
[09:27] <Azhi_Dahaka> ERROR: Module snd_hda_intel is in use
[09:28] <jpatota_> is the file /etc/sudoers usually readonly by root?
[09:28] <PurpZeY> omegacenti: ctrl-alt bksp
[09:28] <EightEleven> Aaron: can you type ipconfig on a terminal?
[09:28] <wols_> omegacenti: /etc/init.d/gdm restart. or do you mean dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[09:28] <tondar> does black box or flux need a composit manager>
[09:28] <EightEleven> And then check if eth1 has an ip address
[09:28] <jrib> BlueBird22: I don't know about that particular modem.  Have you read the page on the ubuntu wiki?
[09:28] <tondar> can I have them in a vm machine?
[09:28] <BlueBird22> jrib ya i got it. thx
[09:28] <RedACE> jpatota_, sudo visudo
[09:28] <Azhi_Dahaka> is there a qay to put KDE on this distro?
[09:28] <BlueBird22> jrib yes
[09:28] <LjL> !kde > Azhi_Dahaka    (Azhi_Dahaka, see the private message from Ubotu)
[09:28] <aaron> yeah
[09:28] <wols_> Azhi_Dahaka: some program has it open. e.g. esd for example. check if someonthing has /dev/snd/* or /dev/dsp open
[09:28] <EightEleven> Aaron: I mean ifconfig
[09:28] <Azhi_Dahaka> how can i check that?
[09:28] <tondar> also how do I change the theme that goes with conky?
[09:28] <aaron> eight i got it
[09:28] <PurpZeY> jpatota_: As dar as I can figure it sudo == root, so sudo users on the list should be able to edit it.
[09:29] <wols_> with fuser
[09:29] <TheoMurpse> There are no sensors in my laptop according to sensors and pwmconfig and the like. What the heck?
[09:29] <Pelo> tondar, as far as I know,  blackbox and flux box are meant to be very light, so it's uniikely the need a compozite manager
[09:29] <wols_> TheoMurpse: acpi has its own sensors interface
[09:29] <RedACE> sudo == root? :(
[09:29] <RedACE> don't say that
[09:29] <LjL> jpatota_, why would you edit /etc/sudoers?
[09:29] <wols_> TheoMurpse: it seems you have a broken acpi implementation
[09:29] <EightEleven> Aaron: you got an IP address on eth1, but still no connection?
[09:29] <tondar> Pelo: cool
[09:29] <BlueBird22> jrib what do i write in What (meta)package do you already have??
[09:29] <stefg> tondar: by visiting the conky site and learning how to write a .conkyrc (examples given there)
[09:29] <Azhi_Dahaka> fuser /dev/snd/*
[09:29] <Azhi_Dahaka> /dev/snd/controlC0:   5471  5639
[09:29] <PurpZeY> RedACE: Pardon me...Sudo will give you all the functionality of root without all of the doubled edged damage.
[09:29] <lockd> Azhi_Dahaka: you can just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:29] <tondar> stefg: thanks
[09:29] <aaron> eight i dont see eth1 i see eth0 and lo
[09:29] <LjL> BlueBird22: ubuntu-desktop if you're using the standard Ubuntu from Desktop CD
[09:29] <Azhi_Dahaka> kill 5471?
[09:30] <RedACE> doubled-edged damage?
[09:30] <AD|Ubuntu> Hey can anyone help me?
[09:30] <TheoMurpse> wols_, so what would you suggest I do? Recompile the kernel with different settings than the default?
[09:30] <tondar> which do you guys prefer: black box or flux?
[09:30] <EightEleven> Aaron: but if you type iwconfig, you see eth1?
[09:30] <wols_> both. check with sudo ps aux |grep 5471 which process it is
[09:30] <PurpZeY> !anyone
[09:30] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:30] <aaron> yes
[09:30] <wols_> TheoMurpse: acpi implementation is your hardware... not kernel usually
[09:30] <EightEleven> Aaron: Does iwconfig tell you the name of your network?
[09:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> gnome mixer applet
[09:31] <TheoMurpse> wols_ well acpi worked in Gentoo before, and it works in XP right now. How could acpi be broken?
[09:31] <wols_> Azhi_Dahaka: terminate with prejudice :)
[09:31] <lockd> PurpZeY: is sudo -i just as dangerous as a root login?
[09:31] <aaron> the essid says nothing
[09:31] <wols_> !acpi
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about acpi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <AD|Ubuntu> Well, I tried to dual boot ubuntu with Vista, with Vista installed first. After partioning the drive and installing linux, Grub doesnt allow me to choose the Vista partion to boot onto
[09:31] <LjL> lockd: sudo -i *gives* you a root login.
[09:31] <BlueBird22> jrib LjL it says There is no such package in fiesty when i write build-essential
[09:31] <wols_> TheoMurpse: simply put, acpi is teh suck. you can recompiled your kernel, but good luck
[09:31] <tritium> !info build-essential
[09:31] <LjL> BlueBird22: true enough. let me check, sigh
[09:31] <panzer__> Anyone here have alot of experience with X, GDM, XDM and X sessions in general?
[09:31] <TheoMurpse> So wols_ basically what you're saying is I can't run Ubuntu.
[09:31] <PurpZeY> lockd: I suspect this might merely be a question of my knowledge...But I imagine it might be.
[09:31] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.3 (feisty), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[09:31] <tritium> BlueBird22: ^^
[09:31] <BlueBird22> LjL ok
[09:31] <Pelo> AD|Ubuntu, this is a known issue,  vista doesn'T play well with others,   but I don'T know the fix if there is one,  try in the forum or ask in #grub
[09:31] <omegacenti> Thanks whoever told me the command :)
[09:32] <wols_> TheoMurpse: you can. if you can find out how. if gentoo could run, so can ubuntu
[09:32] <lockd> LjL: oh, right
[09:32] <omegacenti> Anyone know if WXGA has a usual native resolution?
[09:32] <RedACE> sudo -s -H is safer I guess if you're concerned about login scripts being dangerous
[09:32] <lockd> LjL: didn't know if it was technically a login or not
[09:32] <BlueBird22> tritium then why it says There is no such package in feisty in  http://apt.byethost14.com/?repo=Dapper&arch=AMD64&package=build-essential&have=
[09:32] <tritium> RedACE: sudo -i
[09:32] <AD|Ubuntu> gah
[09:32] <RedACE> tritium, what about it?
[09:32] <tritium> BlueBird22: what's that URL?
[09:32] <wols_> AD|Ubuntu: you should tell us the error. chainloading will work since the bIOS won't do anything else either. so it will work
[09:32] <LjL> BlueBird22, the site is simply broken again.
[09:32] <AD|Ubuntu> Would someone help a poor fool?
[09:32] <tritium> RedACE: instead of sudo -s -H
[09:32] <LjL> !offline | tritium, except it's broken
[09:32] <ubotu> tritium, except it's broken: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, http://apt.byethost14.com/ may help you with determining which dependencies to fetch and calculating download sizes
[09:33] <tondar> PriceChild: which do you prefer: flux or black box?
[09:33] <RedACE> tritium, why?
[09:33] <AD|Ubuntu> GAH!
[09:33] <wols_> BlueBird22: the only url you should look at is packages.ubuntu.com
[09:33] <Azhi_Dahaka> i'm gonna give up on ubuntu
[09:33] <PurpZeY> RedACE: B/C sudo -i gives you aroot term.
[09:33] <tritium> RedACE: just letting you know, buddy
[09:33] <Pelo> !me starts performing hiemlick on AD|Ubuntu
[09:33] <tondar> PriceChild: I want to run in vm machine
[09:33] <LjL> wols_: and then hunt for the dependencies, sure
[09:33] <wols_> LjL: isn't there apt-zip?
[09:33] <Azhi_Dahaka> the forum is full of people with my same issue and there's no fix
[09:33] <RedACE> so does -s
[09:33] <AD|Ubuntu> Would ANYONE help me please?
[09:33] <LjL> wols_: if you're in the conditions to use it, yes
[09:33] <BlueBird22> wols_ i want buid-essential . not by package manager or apt get.  and i dont want to mess with finding what dependency i need.
[09:33] <RedACE> but -s does less than -i does
[09:34] <Pelo> ad| did you see the msg from me and wols_ ?
[09:34] <PurpZeY> AD|Ubuntu: You have to describe your problem better. Or no one can help.
[09:34] <Slyboots> AD|Ubuntu: What is the problem exactly?
[09:34] <AD|Ubuntu> I did.
[09:34] <AD|Ubuntu> when booting
[09:34] <Pelo> ad| that is pretty much the best we can offer
[09:34] <AD|Ubuntu> I load grub, and it wont let me choose which partion to boot
[09:34] <LjL> BlueBird22, please just wait until i can find out what's wrong with the site this time
[09:34] <wols_> LjL: when they don't have very common packages like build-essential imho they aren't much use
[09:34] <PriceChild> !best > tondar (see pm from ubotu)
[09:34] <BlueBird22> LjL ok
[09:34] <tritium> RedACE: -i is shorthand for -s -H, essentially
[09:34] <RedACE> can you use -i on a user with an invalid shell?
[09:34] <silent_> FUCK I love this operating system
[09:34] <illriginal> Hey guys, I know this is the wrong place to ask, but I'm sure people here play games... Is there any Role Playing games for Linux? Preferably online rpg?
[09:34] <RedACE> tritium, no, not really.
[09:34] <omegacenti> Anyone know if WXGA has a usual native resolution?
[09:34] <jrib> !langauge | silent_
[09:34] <ubotu> silent_: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:34] <silent_> >_<
[09:35] <LjL> wols_, it's supposed to have *all* packages. currently, it has none. it's simply *broken*. i know, it's my site.
[09:35] <wols_> AD|Ubuntu: there are error messages. what are they?
[09:35] <illriginal> lol silnet_ which is?
[09:35] <Slyboots> AD|Ubuntu: Thats not a very good description of a problem, why edxactly do you want to define what partition to boot? shouldnt Grub have configured your OS installs already
[09:35] <tritium> RedACE: have to go now...sorry, Dr. appt.
[09:35] <Pelo> !games > illriginal check pms
[09:35] <wols_> LjL: ouch. good luck
[09:35] <AD|Ubuntu> Yes
[09:35] <illriginal> thanks Pelo
[09:35] <AD|Ubuntu> But I dont think It did.
[09:35] <silent_> illriginal, my current setup on feisty
[09:35] <tondar> PriceChild: o k
[09:35] <carolyn> illriginal, daimonin
[09:35] <AD|Ubuntu> I still have the partion because I can see it
[09:35] <AD|Ubuntu> but It doesnt say anything about it when grub loads
[09:35] <Pelo> Slyboots, he,s trying to boot vista
[09:35] <PurpZeY> AD|Ubuntu: What is on the other partition, and what order did you set them up in?
[09:35] <carolyn> illriginal, and Dofus
[09:35] <AD|Ubuntu> Vista was on first.
[09:35] <Slyboots> Pelo: Why would he want to do something crazy like that.. o.O
[09:35] <AD|Ubuntu> I partioned and added Ubuntu
[09:36] <wols_> AD|Ubuntu: can you answer my question? do you see a windows entry in grub? what happens if you try to bootit?
[09:36] <RedACE> "sudo -i -u syslog" is much different than "sudo -s -H -u syslog"
[09:36] <panzer__> Any GDM or X gurus here?
[09:36] <AD|Ubuntu> I dont see a winodws entry in grub
[09:36] <EightEleven> Aaron: Do you see a little black computer on the top right of your screen?
[09:36] <RedACE> mainly, the first won't work :p
[09:36] <silent_> panzer__, lots of us
[09:36] <Pelo> Slyboots, arh arh,  he wants to dual boot vista
[09:36] <silent_> !ask
[09:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:36] <sx66_> I had formatted back to WINXP and there is a GRUB error 17y and will not boot back to WINXP
[09:36] <wols_> !anyone | panzer__
[09:36] <ubotu> panzer__: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:36] <wols_> !grub | sx66_
[09:36] <ubotu> sx66_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:37] <BlueBird22> isnt there any other eays ......... way to get my modem working.
[09:37] <canas> hola
[09:37] <Pelo> later folks
[09:37] <BlueBird22> easy*
[09:37] <Azhi_Dahaka> OK... has anyone faced issues with sound on 7.04 with a SB450 audio chip?
[09:37] <canas> gstreamer is the best codec mp3?
[09:37] <wols_> BlueBird22: unless you find someone who compiles it for you: no
[09:37] <Azhi_Dahaka> i'm tired of fighting Ubuntu
[09:37] <Assassin`> !ati
[09:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:37] <silent_> Bluebird22, I hear Windows is easy
[09:37] <Azhi_Dahaka> i just want the audio to work
[09:37] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: What's the issue?
[09:37] <panzer__> Im attempting to remaster the ubuntu cd, taking gnome off it (leaving essential libs) and installing fluxbox. Ive got XDM set up and it works fine. HOWEVER, the ~/.xinitrc file is only made when you login, so the live disk can start gnome. Anyone have any ideas?
[09:37] <canas> !mp3
[09:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:37] <BlueBird22> silent_ ya. but its only easy. nothign else
[09:37] <RedACE> Azhi_Dahaka, searching google and reading forums is probably your best path
[09:37] <Azhi_Dahaka> There's no sound coming out of the speakers
[09:38] <BlueBird22> wols_ do i have any other options
[09:38] <carolyn> can someone explain what exactly i need to put in this example? "/device/name /mount/point"
[09:38] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: Have you installed ALSA?
[09:38] <silent_> BlueBird22, then I'm afriad you'll have to do whatever you want the linux way :)
[09:38] <BlueBird22> silent_ ya. i am trying.
[09:38] <omegacenti> Oy Im having issues with screen resolutions
[09:38] <Azhi_Dahaka> i'm tired of reading ubuntuforums and see post with a lot of people having the same freaking issue
[09:38] <BlueBird22> ....
[09:38] <silent_> carolyn, you need to google linux for a couple days
[09:38] <Azhi_Dahaka> no fixes, no definitive solutions, nothing
[09:38] <wols_> BlueBird22: unlikely. you are online right now. why can't you use apt-zip?
[09:38] <silent_> carolyn, or at the very least man mount
[09:38] <illriginal> Dofus is too childish lookin... :X
[09:39] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: Have you installed ALSA?
[09:39] <carolyn> silent_, I would, but my browser is broken and I don't have time to reinstall
[09:39] <BlueBird22> wols_ whats apt zip.? i must remind you. i am on windows
[09:39] <PurpZeY> illriginal: You still trying to streamline?
[09:39] <Azhi_Dahaka> it comes by default, right?
[09:39] <magnetron> silent_: man:mount is clickable
[09:39] <omegacenti> I changed in xorg.conf one of the monitor resolutions to 1280x768, however the resolution is 1024x768. I am using 915resolution and ubuntu edgy.
[09:39] <Azhi_Dahaka> i intalled ubuntu like 4 hours ago
[09:39] <Assassin`> !xgl
[09:39] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[09:39] <magnetron> or should ne
[09:39] <Azhi_Dahaka> everything was fine EXCEPT audio
[09:39] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: I'm not positive about that and also it might need configuring
[09:39] <silent_> carolyn, it's not about that though, it's about base knowledge required to use this operating system
[09:39] <PurpZeY> !alsa | Azhi_Dahaka
[09:39] <ubotu> Azhi_Dahaka: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[09:40] <Azhi_Dahaka> been therem done that
[09:40] <carolyn> silent_, i know, i'll work on that later. :/
[09:40] <silent_> carolyn, knowledge, with that question you just asked, it is evident you don't have
[09:40] <sx66_> I can not load into Ubuntu after winxp error grub 17 via live CD
[09:40] <alex_> hi
[09:40] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: What card again?
[09:40] <Azhi_Dahaka> i'm tired of reading the same pages, trying everything and still no fix
[09:40] <BlueBird22> wols_ whats apt zip.?
[09:40] <aaron> =/
[09:40] <alex_> i have a Q
[09:40] <EightEleven> Aaron: You could also try: iwconfig eth1 essid YourNetworkName
[09:40] <Azhi_Dahaka> Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[09:40] <silent_> carolyn, the device is just that. the device you want to mount, usually found in /dev/__
[09:40] <wols_> BlueBird22: apt-zip. it's a ubuntu package
[09:40] <alex_> haw could i instal a usb printer?
[09:40] <LjL> BlueBird22: try now, should be working
[09:40] <silent_> carolyn, the mount point is any folder you created that you want to make the device accessible on
[09:41] <BlueBird22> wols_ whats does it do
[09:41] <tondar> could I have blackbox as a session ?
[09:41] <tondar> like gnome / KDE / blackbox
[09:41] <silent_> carolyn, ie. mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
[09:41] <Azhi_Dahaka> there's no alsaconf
[09:41] <tondar> ?
[09:41] <omegacenti> nothing eh?
[09:41] <yeniklasor>  When I set-up snergy, I couldn't connect my cliend-server. Anyone is using Snergy?
[09:41] <EightEleven> I need to leave now. Bye
[09:41] <silent_> carolyn, then I could cd to /mnt/hda1 and view the files on the device, assuming I had permissions, but I usually roll as root anyway
[09:41] <LjL> wols_: depending on what he wants to do, a little problem with apt-zip might be that, if he cannot run an "apt-get update" on the repositories he wants (for instance because he has no network), apt-zip won't have a clue what to do
[09:42] <paulinster> I am trying to install dapper server on a super micro. I manage to get everything installed correctly but now at bootup I get the following error message 'scsi_proc_hostdir_add: proc_mkdir failed for <NULL>'. After about 30-60sec it failback to ash ...
[09:42] <omegacenti> I changed in xorg.conf one of the monitor resolutions to 1280x768, however the resolution is 1024x768. I am using 915resolution and ubuntu edgy. Anyone have any solutions?
[09:42] <BlueBird22> LjL dont those packages show as dependencies. have further sub sub dependenceis?
[09:42] <phlaegel> anybody know the status of hubackup? is it ready for use by non-technical users? it looks great, I'm just wondering about reliability, etc...
[09:42] <aaron> eight set failed on device eth1 operation not permitted
[09:42] <paulinster> As anyone experience this kind of issue..
[09:42] <Azhi_Dahaka> it's there a big difference between 7.04 and 6.10?
[09:42] <LjL> BlueBird22, finding the sub sub dependencies is precisely what apt.byethost14.com tries to do
[09:42] <silent_> omegacenti, make sure you have latest drivers for your video device. When you do you should be able to change the resolution however you like through the system menu
[09:42] <illriginal> Purpzey, streamline? I don't understand
[09:42] <LjL> BlueBird22: by giving it a metapackage, you tell it which packages you *already* have, so that it won't make you download things you already have
[09:43] <BlueBird22> LjL oh so those are all what i need to have
[09:43] <PurpZeY> illriginal: Last night, you were asking how to streamline unbuntu...etc.
[09:43] <omegacenti> silent_: It seems that other users have had this same problem even with the latest drivers.
[09:43] <LjL> BlueBird22: http://apt.byethost14.com/?repo=Feisty&arch=i386&package=build-essential&have=ubuntu-desktop should be
[09:43] <wols_> LjL: he could get around by downloading the packages.gz file first and copying it to the right place. but yes, it's hairy
[09:43] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: Have you tried using external amplification?
[09:43] <silent_> omegacenti, ATI no doubt?
[09:43] <BlueBird22> LjL iam using kubuntu. not ubuntu
[09:43] <LjL> BlueBird22: try omitting the "ubuntu-desktop" metapackage, and you'll see many more
[09:43] <Azhi_Dahaka> sorry, what?
[09:43] <omegacenti> silent_: No, laptop onboard graphics
[09:43] <LjL> BlueBird22: well, you didn't say that. use "kubuntu-desktop" instead of "ubuntu-desktop" then.
[09:44] <LjL> besides, the sites tells you what metapackages to use.
[09:44] <BlueBird22> LjL ok
[09:44] <Azhi_Dahaka> External Amplification?
[09:44] <silent_> omegacenti, well that's just weird :P
[09:44] <omegacenti> silent_: the intel915 to be exact
[09:44] <Azhi_Dahaka> Like in speakers?
[09:44] <LjL> wols_: the fact it's quite hairy is precisely why i made that site.
[09:44] <illriginal> streamline as in boost performance? Last night I wanted to be able to get my performance up... booting, starting, and during usage of ubuntu
[09:44] <paulinster> I am trying to install dapper server on a super micro. I manage to get everything installed correctly but now at bootup I get the following error message 'scsi_proc_hostdir_add: proc_mkdir failed for <NULL>'. After about 30-60sec it failback to ash...  The motherboard is an h8dm3-2 with 2 AMD64 and in addition it has 3ware controller 9650SE-16ML
[09:44] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: It's an option in sound settings...I'll tell you how to do it.
[09:44] <askand> Why does some of my windows dont remember their sizes when they are closed and reopened? :(
[09:45] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok
[09:45] <novato_br> how can I make computer's internet on taskbar get BLINK ?
[09:45] <omegacenti> silent_: Pfft, not as weird as having 1024 768 on a 1280 768 resolution. Its so annoying!!! XD
[09:45] <novato_br> they not BLINK like windows
[09:45] <novato_br> why?
[09:45] <leagris> Can someone help on pktcdvd interfering with ability to read dual layer DVD-ROM?
[09:45] <omegacenti> I changed in xorg.conf one of the monitor resolutions to 1280x768, however the resolution is 1024x768. I am using 915resolution and ubuntu edgy. Anyone have any solutions?
[09:45] <doddo> Hi i have a laptop and want to configure a usb connected keyboard to it but i cant get it to work whats wrong?
[09:45] <doddo> i cant find any solutions maybe im just looking in the wrong places
[09:46] <BlueBird22> LjL should i now go to packeges.ubuntu.com and dl that from there?
[09:46] <omegacenti> doddo Welcome to the horrors known as the sticker, "Designed for Windows."
[09:46] <leagris> doddo, check demsg and syslog while plugin un plugin it. Check legacy USB is enabled in bios, check usb-hid is loaded
[09:46] <carolyn> lockd, do i have to reboot after I install the OS X drive reader you told me to install? or should it work automatically?
[09:46] <silent_> omegacenti, most machines designed for windows work with linux :P
[09:47] <silent_> omegacenti, however there is more support for nvidia graphics accelerators
[09:47] <omegacenti> silent_: Then I am one of the unfortunate to test the word, "Most"
[09:47] <BlueBird22> LjL sory. i got it
[09:47] <sx66_> There is a buffer I/O error and logical block does not load
[09:47] <BlueBird22> LjL an other queiston. how do i decrease the space between icones in file browser or at desktop?
[09:47] <novato_br> plz, My status of Internet doesn't blink like windows, why?
[09:47] <crockodie> hi
[09:47] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: Right click on sound...Volume Control...Edit Preferences...Check on External Amplifier...Then close just the preferences...Then select the switches tab....and uncheck external amplification...then shut it all.
[09:47] <crockodie> can someone help me how to install FTP
[09:47] <crockodie> can someone help me how to install FTP
[09:47] <preaction> !patience | crockodie
[09:47] <ubotu> crockodie: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:48] <silent_> omegacenti, my computer components have "made for Windows Vista/XP" all over them, but they run fine.... even my Geforce 8800 works perfectly
[09:48] <omegacenti> silent_: Nvidia is known for good support. However, my gateway cx2618 is an entirely different story. I also assume you are talking about your desktop computer?
[09:48] <BlueBird22> can any one tell how do i decrease the space between icones in file browser or at desktop? in kubuntu
[09:49] <silent_> omegacenti, yes, I have not had the toture of installing on a laptop
[09:49] <omegacenti> silent_: Many laptops are known to have weird support under linux installations. Especially this tablet pc
[09:49] <jintxo> odd, I couldn't get RAID1 to boot with onlyone device w/ ubuntu, debian, worked first test, like a charm. oh well
[09:49] <LjL> BlueBird22: no you just click on the links... as for your question, i'm afraid i don't know
[09:49] <Azhi_Dahaka> there's no external amplifier option
[09:49] <silent_> Oh, Pirates of The Caribbean At Worlds End was amazing btw
[09:49] <BlueBird22> LjL is that your website
[09:50] <Azhi_Dahaka> this sucks... why i can't fix this... tried every suggestion on the forums, on the web and NOTHING
[09:50] <Azhi_Dahaka> reinstalled and tried again, and no luck
[09:50] <preaction> novato_br: it doesn't do things like windows because it's not windows, http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager
[09:50] <b0ll_> Hi #ubuntu, where can I find my usb devices? I plugged one in but I don't know where to look for it. I'm running enlightenment window manager but I figured it would be monted somewhere in the filesystem too (it's a camera, used as a mass storage usb device I guess)
[09:50] <omegacenti> Is off topic allowed? in #help on efnet, it is kickable. Just wondering.
[09:50] <Azhi_Dahaka> ubuntu doesn't work fully on my laptop either
[09:50] <LjL> BlueBird22: there is a name at the bottom of the site, you could cross-check it with the name that comes when you type /whois ljl on here
[09:50] <roryy> b0ll_: take a look in /media
[09:50] <preaction> !offtopic | omegacenti
[09:50] <ubotu> omegacenti: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:50] <novato_br> preaction, there is a lot problems
[09:50] <Azhi_Dahaka> is there a real distro that works without tinkering like a madman?
[09:51] <omegacenti> thanks preaction
[09:51] <LjL> !offtopic | Azhi_Dahaka
[09:51] <ubotu> Azhi_Dahaka: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[09:51] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: There is an option. Did you go to edit preferences?
[09:51] <Azhi_Dahaka> yes
[09:51] <novato_br> i detected  the xchat when it's working on resolution 800 x 600 you can't see all gui configurations
[09:52] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: First you opened "Open Volume Control" ?
[09:52] <Azhi_Dahaka> yes
[09:52] <novato_br> i didn't see the all controls on configurations
[09:52] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: External Amplification is definitely there.
[09:52] <leagris> Azhi_Dahaka, Ubuntu work well on my acer laptop.. Blame laptop builders for making windows only undocumented hardware hacks making it very difficult/impossible to write proper opensource drivers for.
[09:53] <Azhi_Dahaka> i selected everything and there isn't an External Aplication
[09:53] <omegacenti> I changed in xorg.conf one of the monitor resolutions to 1280x768, however the resolution is 1024x768. I am using 915resolution and ubuntu edgy. Anyone have any solutions?
[09:53] <novato_br> the xchat doesn't redimension your screen to resolution 800 x 600
[09:53] <BlueBird22> can any one tell how do i decrease the space between icones in file browser or at desktop? in kubuntu
[09:53] <novato_br> is bad
[09:53] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok... what about my desktop?
[09:53] <b0ll_> roryy: thanks, I only have floppy, floppy0, cdrom and cdrom0 there though
[09:53] <Azhi_Dahaka> it doesn't sounds on linux... and i found a lot of people in the same situation on the forums
[09:53] <carolyn> i can't seem to get either of my OS X harddrives to change from R to RW...even under root
[09:53] <Azhi_Dahaka> it's not like the audio card is pretty obscure and old
[09:53] <roryy> b0ll_: hrm.  i'm not familiar with enlightenment; is it running on top of gnome?
[09:54] <carolyn> Azhi_Dahaka, have you tried reinstalling? are you running Feisty?
[09:54] <Azhi_Dahaka> twice
[09:54] <b0ll_> roryy: I still use gdm to log in, then I choose enlightenment, don't know more than that I'm afraid
[09:54] <leagris> Azhi_Dahaka, it's enough the audio chip manufacturer refuse to disclose how it operate.
[09:54] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: I am trying to help you with that, but you are insistent that the option I am telling you to set isn't there...Maybe someone else will tell me if I am wrong...but if you open volume controls...and then open edit preferences, there is a checkbox for external amplification
[09:55] <Azhi_Dahaka> How can i send you an screenshot so you can believe me? There's just not an external amplification checkbox
[09:55] <magnetron> PurpZeY: depends on your card if that option is there.
[09:55] <chowdah> PurpZeY : external amplifier, but yeah, it's definitely there
[09:55] <carolyn> PurpZeY, it's not there on mine either...
[09:55] <roryy> b0ll_: do you have some other USB device with which to test?  It might be that the camera is not supported, but I think most memory sticks are
[09:55] <captainC> hallo?
[09:56] <b0ll_> roryy: good idea, I'll try another device
[09:56] <LjL> carolyn: "try reinstalling" isn't very constructive advice, unless one positively knows something went wrong during installation
[09:56] <carolyn> ljl, i know that a lot of people had that exact problem and it was fixed by reinstalling
[09:56] <LjL> Azhi_Dahaka: you can post images at imageshack.us for example
[09:56] <roryy> b0ll_: if it is supported, I can probably help you manually mount it; not sure about auto-mounting, unfortunately
[09:56] <magnetron> PurpZeY, Azhi_Dahaka: in the preferences, you can choose what options will be visible
[09:56] <leagris> PurpZeY, if his audio chipset ID is not properly recognized and it load some unsupporting module driver, it may not hav any external amplifier option.
[09:56] <chowdah> Azhi_Dahaka : if you go to File->Change Device, what can you select from?
[09:57] <LjL> carolyn: well, it would be very interesting to find what is causing it. if lots of people have had the problem, i'd assume there is a bug listed against it...?
[09:57] <carolyn> has anyone had success transfering files from Ubuntu onto an OS X external hd?
[09:57] <PurpZeY> leagris: I suspect that may be the issue
[09:57] <lockd> sudo works, running as user doesn't - http://pastebin.ca/529107
[09:57] <asdokasdofj> hey all
[09:57] <asdokasdofj> what's  up?
[09:57] <carolyn> ljl, i have no idea if there is one. i was just tryin to be helpful
[09:57] <PurpZeY> leagris: It's an ATI
[09:58] <b0ll_> roryy, that's real nice of you. I inserted a usb mem stick but nothing new under /media I'll google around a bit and maybe I'll get back to you, thanks
[09:58] <Azhi_Dahaka> chowdah:  HDA ATI SB (Alsa mixer) AND Realtek ALC880 (OSS Mixer)
[09:58] <asdokasdofj> I'm having an issue with apt-getting from my local mirror.. it keeps telling me that I have unmet dependencies.. how can I troubleshoot that?
[09:58] <chowdah> Azhi_Dahaka : which one is selected?
[09:58] <Azhi_Dahaka> ATI
[09:58] <Azhi_Dahaka> tried with both and still no sound
[09:58] <sx66_> When I type find /boot/grub/stage1 the error 15 appears
[09:58] <roryy> b0ll_: ok, good luck. for what it's worth, my memory sticks and camera work automatically under gnome/metacity (or whatever the default setup is)
[09:58] <Azhi_Dahaka> aplay wav-file plays fine
[09:59] <Azhi_Dahaka> in theory
[09:59] <Azhi_Dahaka> no error but no oudio on the speakers
[09:59] <Azhi_Dahaka> audio
[09:59] <Azhi_Dahaka> and all the levels in alsamixer are at 100
[09:59] <Azhi_Dahaka> tried mixing the swithces and no lick
[09:59] <carolyn> lockd, are you there?
[09:59] <asdokasdofj> Anyone help me with my issue?
[10:00] <silent_> asdokasdofj, make sure you have internet mirrors enabled
[10:00] <chowdah> if you go into System->Preferences->Sound, do the test buttons work?
[10:00] <silent_> asdokasdofj, or just use internet mirrors since anything else sucks
[10:00] <Azhi_Dahaka> they work, but the speaker doesn't sound
[10:00] <leagris> Azhi_Dahaka, what tell lspci about audio chip ?
[10:01] <LjL> Azhi_Dahaka: i don't know if i can help you, but try pastebinning the output of "amixer", that will show all controls of your soundcard
[10:01] <chowdah> well by work i mean do you hear sound
[10:01] <asdokasdofj> silent_ - I can't access an internet mirror from these internal boxes
[10:01] <lockd> carolyn: yes
[10:01] <magnetron> Azhi_Dahaka: do you hear sound or not, when using the test buttons?
[10:01] <Azhi_Dahaka> lspci | grep Audio00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SB450 HDA Audio (rev 01)
[10:01] <asdokasdofj> silent_ - I can only access my local mirror
[10:01] <mirak> hi
[10:01] <silent_> asdokasdofj, then you have to get the dependencies on that mirror, but i g2g
[10:01] <carolyn> lockd, do you have any experience w/ OSX externals? or did you just know about that plug-in you told me to get?
[10:01] <Azhi_Dahaka> no, there's no sound output whatsoever on the speakers
[10:02] <Azhi_Dahaka> AND the volume levels are at 100 and UNMUTED
[10:02] <mirak> I am using gnome on a TV. I don't use TV out, I have done a RGB cable that goes from VGA to scart, it works with radeons, and I use a resolution of 768*576. the problem is that many applications like update manager barely fit in it and can't be shrinked enough. Is there a way to shrink the windows more ????
[10:03] <asdokasdofj> So.. I rsynced from the main archive mirror... and I am having issues installing any packages because it says they have unmet dependencies... is it outdated? can anyone help please?
[10:03] <BlueBird22> can any one tell how do i decrease the space between icones in file browser or at desktop? in kubuntu
[10:03] <troy> Hello, I'm new to Linux, and I'm trying to figure out how to uninstall Frostwire, I'm having problems with it not coming up so I thought I'd uninstall and try it again
[10:03] <chowdah> oh, it looks like it's a known bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/116328
[10:03] <mirak> for exemple Listen doesn't fit enough, it's anoying
[10:03] <magnetron> Azhi_Dahaka: when you said that "aplay wav files work fine - in theory", did you hear any sound then?
[10:04] <Kisom> mirak: I had the same problem, didn't find a solution for it. Try using apt-get instead.
[10:04] <Azhi_Dahaka> no, there's no sound output whatsoever on the speakers
[10:04] <omegacenti> I changed in xorg.conf one of the monitor resolutions to 1280x768, however the resolution is 1024x768. I am using 915resolution and ubuntu edgy. Anyone have any solutions?
[10:04] <Azhi_Dahaka> not when the system starts, not when i put an audio cd on the computer
[10:04] <mirak> Kisom: that's not only this one, it's also Listen for exemple
[10:04] <Azhi_Dahaka> never, as in never in all ubuntu existence on this machine
[10:05] <asdokasdofj> alright nevermind .. I guess no one has any ideas
[10:05] <lockd> carolyn: no, i just know os X uses hfs/hfs+
[10:05] <askand> Why does some of my windows dont remember their sizes when they are closed and reopened?  :(
[10:05] <leagris> Azhi_Dahaka, did you try this: sudo rmmod snd-hda-intel
[10:05] <leagris> sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=8 model=auto
[10:05] <sx66_> When I type find /boot/grub/stage1 the error 15 appears
[10:05] <hkais> hello
[10:05] <troy> Newbie needs to know how to uninstall a program
[10:05] <sx66_> When I type find /boot/grub/stage1 the error 15 appears, what do I do?
[10:05] <codemaster_> error 15?
[10:06] <codemaster_> i had same error
[10:06] <sx66_> error 15: file not found
[10:06] <LjL> troy:  sudo apt-get remove <package-name> 
[10:06] <codemaster_> error 15 means the grub is deleted xD
[10:06] <sx66_> how do i get it back codemaster
[10:06] <nukem> hey we have ubuntu on all our workstations here and the other day a user asked me to install xfce on all of them so I did with apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[10:07] <codemaster_> umm not sure
[10:07] <nukem> but now all the themes changed to xubuntu, is there a way to get back the default ubuntu
[10:07] <codemaster_> i got a backup of it so i use that like
[10:07] <codemaster_> but wait
[10:07] <codemaster_> there is a command
[10:07] <hkais> does anybody know if there will be a LTS successor of the 6.06?
[10:07] <leagris> troy, newbe need go the System/Administration/Synaptic package manager, then uncheck and applay to remove a package
[10:07] <codemaster_> can u wait?
[10:07] <LjL> !enter | codemaster_
[10:07] <ubotu> codemaster_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:07] <LjL> hkais: most likely
[10:07] <omegacenti> I need some help with a certain bit of language on a wiki page that deals specifically with my problem. Could anyone be of some help
[10:07] <jrib> nukem: are you referring to the usplash you see when you boot or something else?
[10:07] <sx66_> okay
[10:07] <hkais> LjL: is there any timeplan?
[10:07] <codemaster_> ok wait
[10:08] <kris713> anyone got beryl working with window decoration on kde
[10:08] <nukem> jrib: thats all ive noticed so far, im not sure if its changed anything else, can i just use gdm to change that?
[10:08] <troy> Thanks, worked like a charm :-)
[10:08] <magnetron> hkais: next release will probably not be a LTS release
[10:08] <LjL> hkais, Gutsy+1 i think.
[10:08] <codemaster_> btw what LTS means?
[10:08] <jrib> !usplash > nukem (see the private message from ubotu)
[10:08] <LjL> !lts > codemaster_    (codemaster_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:08] <jrib> nukem: that should be all
[10:08] <magnetron> codemaster_: long term support
[10:08] <hkais> codemaster_: long time support
[10:08] <sx66_> back?
[10:08] <codemaster_> ahaaa
[10:08] <Azhi_Dahaka> leagris: yeah
[10:08] <codemaster_> wait just sec
[10:09] <greg_g> omegacenti: give me a try, I might be able to help
[10:09] <Azhi_Dahaka> tried that and no sound
[10:09] <kris713> anyone got beryl working with window decoration on kd
[10:09] <hkais> LjL: is there any roadmap for the releases?
[10:09] <kris713> anyone got beryl working with window decoration on kde
[10:09] <LjL> !gutsy > hkais    (hkais, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:09] <omegacenti> greg_g: Thanks, do you know of the pastebin thing for ubuntu? I forgot the link
[10:09] <leagris> Azhi_Dahaka, I refered to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/88570
[10:09] <codemaster_> found!
[10:09] <greg_g> !paste
[10:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:09] <codemaster_> sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[10:09] <LjL> !enter | codemaster_, two
[10:09] <ubotu> codemaster_, two: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:09] <codemaster_> hda change for the first disk
[10:09] <greg_g> omegacenti: that??
[10:09] <lockd> kris713: only with emerald window decorator
[10:10] <greg_g> omegacenti: do you need help using it?
[10:10] <jiii> What is the simplest way of sharing files on a LAN in ubuntu?
[10:10] <omegacenti> Okay, where do I post the link? Pm to you?
[10:10] <LjL> !beryl > kris713    (kris713, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:10] <kris713> I must be missing something, as beryl is working but without window decorator
[10:10] <codemaster_> you are on live cs sx66?
[10:10] <codemaster_> cd*
[10:10] <omegacenti> greg_g: Sorry. Okay, where do I post the link? PM to you?
[10:10] <magnetron> can i use the metacity composite manager on feisty? will the x.org shipped with feisty support the metacity composite manager?
[10:10] <greg_g> omegacenti: or, just paste it here so we can all see it
[10:10] <omegacenti> okay
[10:10] <omegacenti> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23640/
[10:10] <sx66_> pm codemaster
[10:10] <leagris> !bug 88570
[10:11] <omegacenti> I don't know if I have xorg, I know I don't have that new driver, and I think it would solve my problem instantly
[10:11] <LjL> leagris: Launchpad bug 88750 in activerdf "Query.keyword_where returns not all results (due to ferret ranking ?)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88750
[10:11] <greg_g> omegacenti:  you running ubuntu? then you have xorg
[10:11] <omegacenti> However, I wouldn't know how to realize that solution
[10:11] <ferret> o.o
[10:11] <omegacenti> do I have 7.3?
[10:11] <sx66_> I had formatted back to WINXP and there is a GRUB error 17y and will not boot back to WINXP
[10:11] <roryy> jiii: what sort of sharing?  There are a few options I know of
[10:12] <leagris> !bug 88570
[10:12] <greg_g> omegacenti: lemme see
[10:12] <Azhi_Dahaka> nothing leagris, tried everything on that bug report like 2 hours ago
[10:12] <LjL> !grub > sx66_    (sx66_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:12] <illriginal> Can someone help me install this game? I keep gettin errors that I don't understand why I'm getting them
[10:12] <jiii> roryy: Just between two clients on a LAN
[10:12] <LjL> leagris that doesn't work, you can stop trying
[10:13] <leagris> Azhi_Dahaka, may be you can contribute this bug report
[10:13] <sx66_> he sent nothing
[10:13] <LjL> sx66_: yes it did
[10:13] <greg_g> omegacenti: in a terminal run this command "Xorg -version"
[10:13] <LjL> !grub | sx66_
[10:13] <ubotu> sx66_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:13] <linuxnwe> ;ladskf :P:-(:-( :)
[10:13] <greg_g> omegacenti: I am running 7.2
[10:13] <linuxnwe> sdfa
[10:14] <linuxnwe> :)
[10:14] <roryy> jiii: you can take a look at system -> admin -> shared folders; seems to be fairly user-friendly
[10:14] <linuxnwe> :)
[10:14] <codemaster_> sx66_: come to pms
[10:14] <LjL> linuxnwe: stop spamming
[10:14] <sx66_> yes, when I type: "find /boot/grub/stage1".  the error 15 happens
[10:14] <linuxnwe> clear
[10:14] <omegacenti> greg_g: 7.1.1
[10:14] <roryy> jiii: the other end of this is probably Places -> Connect to Server
[10:14] <omegacenti> greg_g: I think...
[10:14] <askand> Why does some of my windows dont remember their sizes when they are closed and reopened?   :(
[10:14] <Random_Transit> hey, I've added values in my xorg.conf for 1280x1020 resolution.....but gnome will only let me do a max of 1024x768?.....why is this?
[10:15] <rodrigo> how i put the beryl in the ubuntu studio ???????
[10:15] <roryy> jiii: if these don't give you success, i can help with command-line type stuff; I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm not familiar with ubuntu's GUI tools
[10:15] <JoeJoeBlack> I lost my root password, how do i recover it or blank it
[10:15] <greg_g> omegacenti: the first line of the output has the verion, mine is "X Window System Version 7.2.0"
[10:15] <IC0ffeeCup> hi, doesn't the libgtk-dev (2.x) have a gtkintl.h ? (feisty)
[10:15] <roryy> JoeJoeBlack: boot in recovery mode and run 'passwd'
[10:15] <leagris> roryy, realy Gnome VFS access to SMB share sucks (sorry). Enly application VFS aware can access the files and it can't properly translate windows charsets to UTF-8. I had to set up system mount points to have it right.
[10:15] <LjL> JoeJoeBlack: there simply is *no* root password by default.
[10:15] <LjL> !root > JoeJoeBlack    (JoeJoeBlack, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:15] <hendrixski> I can't figure out which package to include to be able to create modules for python
[10:15] <JoeJoeBlack> I set a root password, then lost it.
[10:15] <greg_g> !root > greg_g
[10:15] <codemaster_> :s strange sx66, i had same problems but i fixed them by reinstall
[10:15] <omegacenti> greg_g: I think it is 7.1.1 then
[10:15] <hendrixski> like I have a C++ file, and it can't find <python.h>
[10:15] <wfv> hay all
[10:16] <Random_Transit> anyone have any idea?
[10:16] <roryy> leagris: ah-ha.  wasn't aware of that.  I mostly do it the other way around (windows client connecting to samba share)
[10:16] <LjL> JoeJoeBlack: you set a root password (something that's usually most non-recommended), and you have no idea how to recover a lost root password? that seems like asking for trouble, to me.
[10:16] <codemaster_> do you have msn or any other adress
[10:16] <gilos> joejoeblack just sudo passwd root and change it
[10:16] <codemaster_> its better way than this :x
[10:16] <rodrigo> how i can put the beryl in the ubuntu studio ???????
[10:16] <PurpZeY> #berly
[10:16] <PurpZeY> #beryl
[10:16] <LjL> !beryl > rodrigo    (rodrigo, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:16] <rodrigo> yes
[10:16] <greg_g> omegacenti: what is the output of "cat /etc/issue"
[10:17] <hendrixski> which package do I need to be able to include <python.h> into my C++ files?
[10:17] <codemaster_> beryl in ubuntu studio?
[10:17] <LjL> !find python.h | hendrixski
[10:17] <ubotu> hendrixski: Found: python-htmlgen, python-happydoc, python-happydoc-doc, python-hid, python-hippocanvas (and 3 others)
[10:17] <Random_Transit> can anyone help me with my problem?
[10:17] <codemaster_> how do you mean?
[10:17] <Random_Transit> I've added values in my xorg.conf for 1280x1020 resolution.....but gnome will only let me do a max of 1024x768?.....why is this?
[10:17] <omegacenti> greg_g: one sec
[10:17] <LjL> hendrixski: ouch... need a more accurate search :)
[10:17] <leagris> rorry unless you export US charset only there are no problems. In other case you have to tune samba export options for special national characters to translate correctly.
[10:17] <dyrne> JoeJoeBlack: nothing insecure about a root password, i use root and a wheel group that users need to be able to su. but it might be best to stick with sudo for ubuntu. you can i think sudo passwd -l root  to 'disable' it once more
[10:17] <zidagar-ubuntu> hi
[10:17] <roryy> hendrixski: i'd guess python-dev is what you want
[10:17] <hendrixski> LJL, yeah, when I searched in apt-cache the screen scrolled for a few pages
[10:17] <omegacenti> greg_g: Ubuntu 6.10 \n \l
[10:18] <Tiradin> Does anyone know of some GAIM plugins that would use webcam/voice over the MSN protocol?
[10:18] <sx66_> I typed sudo grub: and it is probing devices: for BIOS drives
[10:18] <codecaine> how can I stop my webcam light from staying on when im not using it when my pc boots up?
[10:18] <zidagar-ubuntu> i-m debian user and now i test ubuntu
[10:18] <codemaster_> and is it doing something or no?
[10:18] <hendrixski> roryy nope, already have that in latest version... and it's not finding python.h for extending newmodules :-(
[10:18] <greg_g> omegacenti: is there a reason you want Xorg version 7.3??  Do you want to buy an intel 965 board?
[10:18] <PurpZeY> codecaine: Did you configure Ubuntu to work with the webcam?
[10:18] <zidagar-ubuntu> but i ve a short question....
[10:18] <greg_g> omegacenti: because I did, and it didn't work with Fiesty, returned it and got something else
[10:19] <omegacenti> greg_g: It allows me to manually program resolutions that are difficult on this machine.
[10:19] <codecaine> yea my cam works with it
[10:19] <greg_g> omegacenti: ahhh
[10:19] <LjL> hendrixski, apt-cache search searches package *descriptions*, it doesn't search for *files* inside packages. what i just used searches for files, however there are many packages containing a "python.html" files, which is what makes too many results show up
[10:19] <codecaine> I just dont' know why the light is on when my pc boots up to ubuntu but if I run a app with a cam and turn it off then the light shuts off
[10:19] <roryy> hendrixski: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=python.h&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=feisty&arch=i386
[10:19] <zidagar-ubuntu> whi df see 3gb free e gparted 5gb free?
[10:19] <carolyn> is there a good file splitter for ubuntu?
[10:19] <leagris> codecaine, either the module driving your webcam has a led option or just unloading the module or putting it to blacklist and loading it when needed only will do the trick.
[10:19] <hendrixski> LjL, that would explain it :-/
[10:19] <roryy> hendrixski: note that it's   <Python.h>, not <python.h>
[10:19] <Tiradin> Does anyone know of some GAIM plugins that would use webcam/voice over the MSN protocol?
[10:19] <dyrne> carolyn: split
[10:20] <codemaster_> @sx66 is it working something or no?
[10:20] <omegacenti> greg_g: The options I THINK I have are upgrading from 6.10 and/or upgrading Xorg. Are either of these possible/plausible?
[10:20] <PurpZeY> codecaine: Yeah, I totally understand the problem, but to be honest, I have no idea how to fix it...I mean, I imagine you coudl write  a script...but that would be more likely rigging it
[10:20] <LjL> hendrixski: no package act -- err, see roryy
[10:20] <hendrixski> roryy, OH!!!!!  capital P
[10:20] <sx66_> codemaster type my name otherwise the text is lost: when I Type "find /boot/grub/stage1". I get no response and error 15 file is not found
[10:20] <RedACE> you want python.h? perhaps you want the python-dev package?
[10:20] <Random_Transit> i guess no one has any idea on how to help me with my problem, then?
[10:20] <zidagar-ubuntu> good bye Ubuntu Peopple
[10:21] <JoeJoeBlack> anyone familiar with ksh?
[10:21] <PurpZeY> Random_Transit: Can you describe it once more please.
[10:21] <Random_Transit> I've added values in my xorg.conf for 1280x1020 resolution.....but gnome will only let me do a max of 1024x768?.....why is this?
[10:21] <zidagar-ubuntu> i return on my Debian Station
[10:21] <LjL> hendrixski, python2.5-dev (and probably python-dev being a metapackage), but since you mentioned C++ (as opposed to C), perhaps you really want python-cxx-dev
[10:21] <gilos> can someone point me to a good site to completely strip out my nvidia drivers so I can start over?  I'm having problems now when it tries to load nvidia module in xorg.conf that it crashes the xserver.
[10:21] <codemaster_> sx66_ don't type find!
[10:21] <codecaine> thanks yea im not going to wastes a script on it :)
[10:21] <LjL> !away > novato_br_away    (novato_br_away, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:21] <leagris> zidagar-ubuntu, one is speeking computer GiB and the other International Units GB
[10:21] <hendrixski> RedACE, no.. I thought I wanted python.h ... turns out I wanted Python.h
[10:21] <sx66_> oh
[10:21] <Random_Transit> get all that PurpZeY?
[10:21] <adam0509> Hi, what happens if you make a clean install on a "/" hard-disk only and tick "make no change" (don't destroy data) ??
[10:21] <omegacenti> greg_g: ?
[10:21] <RedACE> you want Python.h? perhaps you want the python-dev package?
[10:21] <codemaster_> sx66_ just just sudo command
[10:21] <RedACE> better? :)
[10:21] <dyrne> carolyn: there is some cool stuff you can do from shell with named pipes and split. what are you trying to do?
[10:22] <xtreon> evening, I want more visual plugins for amok then "libvisual-04" contains, any sugestions?
[10:22] <PurpZeY> Random_Transit: While I imagine someone here can help you solve that, someone in #ubuntu-effects definitely can...but I imagine if you wait a moment someone here probably can.
[10:22] <greg_g> omegacenti: well, I am running Fiesty (7.04) and I have Xorg version 7.2, and I am "up-to-date" according to Ubuntu, so let me see if there is a way to get the latest version of Xorg
[10:22] <hendrixski> RedACE, got it... my problem wasn't the package, because i already had it... problem was the capitalization
[10:22] <hendrixski> roryy, LjL, thanks :-)
[10:22] <sx66_> error 27 unrecognized format
[10:22] <RedACE> ah lol
[10:22] <Random_Transit> oh.... i didn't even know there was such a channel
[10:22] <omegacenti> greg_g:  Can I just upgrade from edgy 6.1o?
[10:22] <leagris> hendrixski, install apt-file, then sudo apt-file update once, then apt-cache search python.h
[10:22] <carolyn> dyrne, i need to get a big ISO from here my OS X partition, but i can't get it onto my hd, so i was going to split it,upload to the internet,and then download on my OS X parition
[10:22] <PPSD> hi
[10:22] <codemaster_> sx66_ lol hda change with your harddisk mark
[10:22] <greg_g> well, if you upgrade from edgy to fiesty, you will still only have Xorg version 7.2 not 7.3
[10:23] <vladkorus> HELP ME, plz !!! how to mount FAT32 dev 2 Kubuntu - disk's created after OS install?
[10:23] <PurpZeY> leagris: He had the package, he was just having a case sensitive error/issue. . .
[10:23] <zidagar-ubuntu> leagris: ops....i see only now the "i" in GiB...
[10:23] <LjL> !mountwindows > vladkorus    (vladkorus, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:23] <leagris> hendrixski, apt-file allow you to list which uninstalled package provide a given file. Very handy tool when you have build error for missing files.
[10:23] <codemaster_> sx66_ if first partition is booting one then use hda1, and if its sata use sda1
[10:23] <LjL> leagris: auto-apt is even handier, when it works :)
[10:23] <vladkorus> thx )
[10:23] <hendrixski> leagris, oooh cool, didn't know abot that one either.  Thanks :-)
[10:24] <codemaster_> sx66_ are u there?
[10:24] <zidagar-ubuntu> leagris: thanks and good bye
[10:24] <sx66_> codemaster, so I type: sudo /boot/grub/stage1"
[10:24] <dyrne> carolyn: well the simplest example would be split -b 100k filename  and youd get a bunch of files xaa xab etc. that are 100k in size
[10:24] <b0lland> roryy: funny thing, when I switched to gnome I got everything I tried mounted under /media ... weird. Now if just gnome wasn't so ugly ...
[10:25] <codemaster_> sx66_ nope wait
[10:25] <crockodie> can someone help me how to install Webserver AND FTP
[10:25] <carolyn> dyrne, can i edit that command? this is a 2.9 gig file....that would suck as 100k's
[10:25] <lockd> crockodie: you should likely use sftp
[10:25] <LjL> !apache > crockodie    (crockodie, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:25] <LjL> ftpd > crockodie
[10:25] <dyrne> carolyn: yeah :) whatever size
[10:25] <ChevronX> How do I repair VMWare it wont run after the last linux header update
[10:26] <codemaster_> sx66_ sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[10:26] <illriginal> Can anyone tell me where I can download (hopefully from the repository) all the SDL files...
[10:26] <LjL> illriginal: "all the SDL files"?
[10:26] <RedACE> ChevronX, update your vmtools?
[10:26] <PPSD> is it a common problem that pdfs look different in acroread under linux than under windows ?
[10:26] <codemaster_> sx66_ hda change with your partition mark
[10:26] <crockodie> lockd give some links about stfp
[10:26] <hendrixski> ChevronX, I just don't update my linux headers to avoid breaking vmware
[10:26] <leagris> crockodie, you should at lest read some tutorial en AMP and learn on security issues on running/maintining servers if you plan all this to be internet connected.
[10:26] <LjL> !find libsdl | illriginal
[10:26] <ubotu> illriginal: Found: libsdl-image1.2, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (and 28 others)
[10:26] <ChevronX> I just did and I need it up and running fast
[10:26] <PurpZeY> PPSD: I have no idea, but it seems to be the purpose of PDFs is to remain the same...IT might be related to the font packages...Did you install the msfonts?
[10:26] <roryy> b0lland: hrm.  unfortunately I'm a command-line refugee; I'm not sure what gnome bit is reponsible for automounting
[10:26] <illriginal> Yes I want them all
[10:26] <illriginal> AL OF THEM
[10:27] <sx66_> codemaster error 27
[10:27] <PPSD> PurpZeY: no did not know about that
[10:27] <hendrixski> wow apt-file update takes a long time
[10:27] <sx66_> I typed sudo grub-install/dev/hda
[10:27] <PPSD> PurpZeY: what package is that?
[10:27] <RedACE> ChevronX, contact VMware for support.. that's what you pay them for.
[10:27] <lockd> crockodie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol
[10:27] <LjL> illriginal: suit yourself.  sudo apt-get install "libsdl*" 
[10:27] <diana> Sound doesn't work for mp3s in totem, but it works fine in mplayer
[10:27] <greg_g> omegacenti: this will take me more time to figure out, I'll PM you when I have something
[10:27] <illriginal> woohoo thanks LjL
[10:27] <omegacenti> greg_g: thanks
[10:27] <ChevronX> k; just didnt want to wait that long as it is a business
[10:27] <diana> totem appears to play mp3s, it scrolls through the seconds.. but no sound comes out
[10:27] <codemaster_> sx66_ whats error 27 :/
[10:28] <b0lland> roryy: ok :)
[10:28] <illriginal> i keep gettin error after error of SDL files I'm missing... i wish it told me the whole list of files instead of having to download each one of them one by one
[10:28] <PurpZeY> PPSD: One sec. I'll check the name
[10:28] <sx66_> codemaster: file not found
[10:28] <hendrixski> ChevronX, I went through hell with VMWare server once, it would always break after updates, and would hoze other kernel modules if I recompiled it... I just reformated and NEVER updated on my development box
[10:28] <PPSD> PurpZeY: thanks
[10:28] <RedACE> ChevronX, sorry, I'm not that familiar with vmware.. maybe someone else it. But I'd think going directly to vmware for support would be faster, wouldn't it?
[10:28] <LjL> !apt-file > illriginal    (illriginal, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:28] <ChevronX> Probably
[10:29] <ChevronX> Thanks for your help
[10:29] <RedACE> All I know is our vmware guys always have to reinstall the vmtools after kernel updates
[10:29] <MrObvious> I have an interesting problem. If I want to go to a TTY terminal (Ctrl+Alt+F1) then come back into my X session, it goes to a black screen and I can't get it to respond without restarting X.
[10:29] <codemaster_> sx66: can you go to msn or something else this is totally stupid :X i can't see when you have typed something!
[10:29] <sx66_> Windows does not boot because of error 15, I can boot off a live CD into ubuntu.
[10:29] <RedACE> MrObvious, it's supposed to be Captain Obvious.
[10:29] <sx66_> codemaster what is your s/n?
[10:29] <PriceChild> MrObvious, are you using beryl or compiz?
[10:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> anyone uses bluehost?
[10:30] <MrObvious> RedACE, Hardy hardy har.
[10:30] <RedACE> Ric Romero is very disapointed in you.
[10:30] <diana> How do I get sound working in totem? The sound speaker icon on the application is faded away
[10:30] <MrObvious> PriceChild, I don't know?
[10:30] <Baalia1> Can anyone help me setup a dualboot with both Ubuntu and Windows?
[10:30] <PriceChild> RedACE, please stay on topic.
[10:30] <Baalia1> I want Windows to be on one HD
[10:30] <MrObvious> PriceChild, Isn't that the new X effects thingy?
[10:30] <PriceChild> MrObvious, have you enabled "desktop effects"
[10:30] <Baalia1> And Ubuntu on the other
[10:30] <PriceChild> MrObvious, yes
[10:30] <codemaster_> sx66_ you mean adress?
[10:30] <MrObvious> PriceChild, Yeah.
[10:30] <sx66_> yes
[10:30] <dm> hi all! Does anybody use badmem / badram kernel patch?
[10:30] <westoncampbell> Can someone help me figure out which port is being used for the BitTorrent program installed in Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn? I need to configure my router with the port numbers so that I can achieve full speeds for my downloads...
[10:30] <PurpZeY> PPSD: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[10:30] <PriceChild> MrObvious, its a bug.
[10:30] <codemaster_> sx66_ raceguy94@hotmail.com
[10:30] <LjL> dm: i used to, but long ago and not on ubuntu.
[10:30] <MrObvious> PriceChild, Drat. I was enjoying the fun of it.
[10:30] <PPSD> PurpZeY: thank you i'll try that
[10:31] <PriceChild> MrObvious, you can kill compiz from the tty and start metacity if you want to.
[10:31] <diana> westoncampbell: Dpm
[10:31] <d2812> is there anyway to add custom key bindings to gnomes keyboard shortcuts?  my laptop has some short cut keys on the keyboard I want to customise.
[10:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> i found the issue
[10:31] <MrObvious> PriceChild, How?
[10:31] <PurpZeY> PPSD: Gotta restart just the apps to see them, not the whole x.
[10:31] <PriceChild> MrObvious, as the thing said, its a technology preview :)
[10:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> the kernel hates my card
[10:31] <diana> westoncampbell: Don't use the default bittorrent it's terrible, use bittyrant.
[10:31] <PPSD> PurpZeY: ok
[10:31] <PurpZeY> Azhi_Dahaka: It's an ATI card, ATI cards can be iffy.
[10:31] <dm> LjL: I cannot apply it to 2.6.22 kernel =( Latest patch is for 2.6.15 kernel
[10:31] <illriginal> I keep gettin this error LjL: configure: error: *** SDL_mixer lib not found! Get SDL_mixer from
[10:31] <illriginal>         http://www.libsdl.org/projects/SDL_mixer/index.html
[10:31] <westoncampbell> ok diana! thanks for advice
[10:31] <PriceChild> MrObvious, something like "killall compiz" then switch back to X, and use keyboard shortcuts to start metacity
[10:31] <illriginal> After the fact I already downloaded and installed it
[10:31] <MrObvious> PriceChild, Hmm. Which shortcuts?
[10:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> is there a way to change the kernel for another one?
[10:31] <Random_Transit> PriceChild, i think it's killall -HUP compiz
[10:32] <andydna> Anyone try installing Ubuntu on a Thinkpad T21 with X-windows?
[10:32] <Azhi_Dahaka> an older one?
[10:32] <PriceChild> MrObvious, alt+f2 then type it in, or alt+f1 and navigate for a terminal etc.
[10:32] <PriceChild> Random_Transit, killall compiz should do just fine
[10:32] <LjL> dm: the package you need is libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
[10:32] <PPSD> PurpZeY: seems to have worked, thanks again!
[10:32] <LjL> sorry dm, that was for illriginal
[10:32] <MrObvious> PriceChild, Is there a way to make it work with metacity by default?
[10:32] <LjL> illriginal: the package you need is libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
[10:32] <PurpZeY> PPSD: Not a problem
[10:32] <PriceChild> MrObvious, compiz _replaces_ metacity
[10:33] <MrObvious> Ahh.
[10:33] <LjL> dm: true, little that can be done about that, except for making your own updated version, or waiting (if it's still maintained by someone)
[10:33] <rhalff_> ay guys, why isn't flash enabled by default on amd64 ? a forum suggest using nspluginwrapper and that works. so using that as default would be nice.
[10:33] <Azhi_Dahaka> guys, i have the cds of 7.04 installed
[10:33] <dm> LjL: may be there are some other tools making the same good thing?
[10:33] <Azhi_Dahaka> is there a way to conver the system into 6.10?
[10:33] <MrObvious> PriceChild, So if I want it stable I'll have to turn it off? Drat.
[10:33] <PriceChild> rhalff_, flash isn't enabled by default on i386
[10:33] <diana> Why does sound work when mplayer plays mp3s, but not totem. On totem the speaker icon on the mplayer is faded away.
[10:33] <PriceChild> MrObvious, afraid so
[10:33] <LjL> dm: i doubt it, a kernel module is really needed to allocate the bad memory early enough
[10:33] <Azhi_Dahaka> it seems that my audio card work on that version
[10:33] <leagris> dm, I had a bad ram module some time ago. Found safe to just unplug it because I had no replacement plan.
[10:34] <rhalff_> PriceChild: I mean installable at least, flash can be enabled with apt-get on i386, at least that's what I though.
[10:34] <MrObvious> PriceChild, Yup that was the problem.
[10:34] <PriceChild> rhalff_, yes it can. however adobe have no 64bit flash version.
[10:34] <MrObvious> PriceChild, Is there a place I can report this to maybe get a fix?
[10:34] <LjL> !downgrade | Azhi_Dahaka
[10:34] <crockodie> !ftpd
[10:34] <ubotu> Azhi_Dahaka: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[10:34] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[10:34] <dm> LjL: have 512M ok and one 1GB module with broken 5,6M on it. Btw, this is SO-DIMM DDR2 modules.
[10:35] <Azhi_Dahaka> CRAP!... Then why can i do?
[10:35] <crockodie> !ftpd | crockodie
[10:35] <LjL> !botabuse > crockodie    (crockodie, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:35] <Azhi_Dahaka> The issue with my card is definitevly a kernel bug
[10:35] <rhalff_> rhalff_: yeah ok, but it saves handwork and finding the sollution :), it's not 64-bit, but at least it's able to run within a 64-bit firefox that way.
[10:35] <RodGo> hi all i need some help on installing  gDesklets on Ubuntu Feisty with beryl on an AMD 64
[10:35] <rhalff_> or is the rule amd64 will only install 64-bit packages
[10:35] <rhalff_> flash is kinda important though
[10:36] <leagris> Azhi_Dahaka, did you try installing the old kernel from Edgy repos ?
[10:36] <LjL> dm: http://rick.vanrein.org/linux/badram/download.html shows that a patch is available from 2.6.20. it's just not in the repositories
[10:36] <diana> rhalff_: use gnash
[10:36] <timposey> Greetings from Honduras... I am trying to print from a website that uses a ViewOne java script to print the files it is sending the file to the printer but when I open the properties box it says that the process is stopped.
[10:36] <PriceChild> !flash64 > rhalff_ (see the pm from ubotu)
[10:36] <diana> rhalff_: gnash can play youtube and google video now. iirc
[10:36] <crockodie> can someone teach how to create a shell user ?
[10:36] <rhalff_> diana: and do what ? gnash can't do a thing
[10:36] <vladkorus> HELP, plz to install Kylix on Kubuntu
[10:36] <RodGo> i just cant run gkdesklets
[10:36] <cyber_brain_mfkg> !dvd
[10:36] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:36] <diana> rhalff_: Have you seen the latest trunk from cvs/
[10:36] <Azhi_Dahaka> leagris: how can i do that?
[10:36] <rhalff_> same as using blackdown for eclipse etc.
[10:37] <aleksanteri> crockodie: adduser --help
[10:37] <PriceChild> vladkorus, that package doesn't exist in ubuntu?
[10:37] <illriginal> LjL, may I private message you the error? Or should I use pastebin?
[10:37] <RodGo> please i need to install gkdesklets on an AMD 64
[10:37] <lauriexxx> hello everybody, can anyone help me, i ve installed a feisty fawn for a windows user, all was well, untill he's filled up disk space, and we can't access nothing, only got access to comand line, via failsafe, it says that there's a problem with gdm, help, any tuto on this?
[10:37] <vladkorus> one moment..
[10:37] <Hillview> anyone have an idea why I can't boot the the 7.0.4 amd64 install disc?  same disc worked fine on another box I have here..  but on this one, it gets up to start loading x and reboots.
[10:37] <Azhi_Dahaka> is that or download the service pack 2 for xp AND all the security releases... :S
[10:37] <magnetron> diana: rhalff_: gnash can play youtube and google video? that rocks!
[10:37] <crockodie> how can i disable SSH root access
[10:37] <dm> LjL: thnx, i've stuck with badmem. Will try this now with 2.6.20
[10:38] <PriceChild> lauriexxx, go to the command line and find some things to clean out. You need to free space
[10:38] <leagris> Azhi_Dahaka, ftp or browser to the URL provided in the sources.list file. wet the package directly or add Dapper repos to the list and install it from synaptic
[10:38] <diana> crockodie: /etc/ssh/sshd_config ?
[10:38] <PriceChild> lauriexxx, "sudo apt-get clean" for example
[10:38] <magnetron> Hillview: what video card does that computer have?
[10:38] <rhalff_> yeah, but not if you have to develop websites, then it's useless, can't say hey it works in gnash, so I'm done! :p
[10:38] <PriceChild> crockodie, sudo apt-get remove openssh-server
[10:38] <RedACE> crockodie, man sshd_config explains that
[10:38] <Azhi_Dahaka> wait... what=
[10:38] <leagris> wget
[10:38] <gangsterlicious> crunk
[10:38] <Azhi_Dahaka> ?
[10:38] <EADG__> PriceChild: Hehe
[10:38] <LjL> illriginal: better use the pastebin. i have to go in a little, also. you could also try "auto-apt run ./configure" (after installing auto-apt and doing "sudo auto-apt update"), as that will automatically propose packages to install (don't just install every package it proposed, though!)
[10:38] <leagris> or downoad Azhi_Dahaka
[10:38] <leagris> download
[10:38] <Hillview> magnetron, this one has an nvidia 7950..
[10:38] <LjL> illriginal: but it seems quite likely that the game's configure script is broken, really
[10:38] <Azhi_Dahaka> download what from where?
[10:38] <crockodie> PriceChild i mean  SSH root access only
[10:39] <RedACE> crockodie, man sshd_config explains that
[10:39] <leagris> Azhi_Dahaka, linux-image-generic ... whatever version older
[10:39] <Hillview> magnetron, 7950gt, that is.
[10:39] <PriceChild> crockodie, make sure that no users are part of the "admin" group
[10:39] <lauriexxx> Pricechild: i don't know his home folder too well, any idea's? and will a disk being full not allow us to log on via x server?
[10:39] <PriceChild> crockodie, apart from you of course
[10:39] <magnetron> Hillview: that should be ok, i guess
[10:39] <PriceChild> lauriexxx, tell him to sudo apt-get clean
[10:39] <LjL> dm: it will be kind of unmanageable though, as you'll have to keep rolling your own kernel, until someone puts a package back into the repositories (which i doubt will happen)
[10:39] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok... i don't understand what you're telling me
[10:39] <rhalff_> can't that ubuntu guy just buy adobe and make it *nux centric :p
[10:39] <Azhi_Dahaka> i couldn't find a linux-generic site
[10:40] <crockodie> PriceChild can u guide me how to disable it
[10:40] <dm> LjL: yeah, badram was in warty distro, and also proposed to be included in 2004.
[10:40] <rhalff_> I'll just burn my own cd then, will save some money for that
[10:40] <PriceChild> crockodie, have you added otehr users to the "admin" group?
[10:40] <crockodie> PriceChild not yet
[10:40] <PriceChild> crockodie, then you have nothing to worry about :)
[10:41] <gangsterlicious> http://loux.org/kate/sun.jpg my new sun box, totally radical
[10:41] <dyrne> carolyn: that work out?
[10:41] <crockodie> PriceChild but i run PSYBNC already
[10:41] <PriceChild> crockodie, if a user isn't in "admin" then they can't use sudo
[10:41] <PriceChild> crockodie, I don't know what that stands for
[10:41] <Hillview> magnetron, thans anyway.
[10:41] <MrObvious> !themes > MrObvious
[10:41] <lauriexxx> Pricechild: your my hero, it worked!!!! thanks one million
[10:41] <crockodie> PriceChild i have one admin user in my psybnc bouncer client
[10:41] <MrObvious> Does anyone know where I can find some nifty themes for Gnome or Ubuntu?
[10:41] <vladkorus> i don`t know about package... script Syntax error - unexpected { on "function FindLibrary() {"
[10:42] <MrObvious> Nevermind, the bot finally answered it.
[10:42] <MrObvious> :|
[10:42] <PriceChild> crockodie, so if you don't want them to be able to use sudo take admin from them?
[10:42] <LjL> dm, where are the bad bytes located, roughly? start of chip, middle, end, scattered...?
[10:42] <PriceChild> crockodie, I don't know what psybnc is btw
[10:42] <crockodie> psybnc its a irc bouncer client
[10:43] <PriceChild> why does that need root?
[10:43] <lauriexxx> PrichChild: i ve just spent one hour looking for this info, checked various tuto's, and five minutes here, and voila!!! hive fives!!!
[10:43] <leagris> Azhi_Dahaka, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/6347417/linux-image-generic_2.6.17.11_i386.deb
[10:43] <LjL> it doesn't PriceChild
[10:43] <crockodie> no just a shell access
[10:43] <cyber_brain_mfkg> what do i need to play DVD???
[10:43] <PriceChild> crockodie, then whatever user accesses it... take them out of the "admin" group
[10:43] <LjL> !dvd > cyber_brain_mfkg    (cyber_brain_mfkg, see the private message from Ubotu)
[10:43] <Baalia1> Everytime I launch a game such as Nexuiz or Enemy Territory
[10:43] <crockodie> PriceChild ok
[10:43] <leagris> !multimedia
[10:43] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[10:43] <dm> LjL: can't understand. Have such badram string from memtest: 0x00596388,0xfffffffc
[10:44] <leagris> !restricted
[10:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:44] <mike1o> I chrooted a 32bit system but I get no sound when I play a flash movie
[10:44] <JoeJoeBlack> http://pastebin.ca/529214
[10:44] <leagris> !restricted | cyber_brain_mfkg
[10:44] <ubotu> cyber_brain_mfkg: please see above
[10:44] <LjL> dm: err, i'll have to try and interpret that. however, if it's close to the end of the chip (it doesn't look like so, however), you can probably work around it without using badmem
[10:44] <Serideth> Is it possible to move the screen to a differnt area on my monitor in Ubuntu?
 Fri Jun  1 16:44:39 :User crockodie took admin rights from User proxy
[10:44] <sergiu> LjL: how are you
[10:45] <crockodie> PriceChild how bout FTP is there a quicky way to install it
[10:45] <dm> LjL: yeah, but don't know how to see, where it is located.
[10:45] <leagris> Serideth, do you miss Amiga pullable screens? ;o)
[10:45] <PriceChild> crockodie, what ftpd did you install?
[10:45] <Baalia1> My computer just shuts down abruptly after about 5 mins or so of gameplay\
[10:45] <Baalia1> What is going on?
[10:45] <Baalia1> What can I do about it?
[10:45] <crockodie> nothing
[10:45] <erUSUL> !ftp | crockodie
[10:45] <ubotu> crockodie: FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[10:45] <cerealkiller219> is there a guide to setting up enlightenment on ubuntu?
[10:45] <arathald> can anyone help me set up a pptp VPN connection in ubuntu? I've been trying to use pptpconfig, but it keeps saying that it "Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP"
[10:45] <PriceChild> crockodie, then you don't need to stop it if you haven't installed it?
[10:45] <Azhi_Dahaka> leagris: sorry to be such a PITA, but after downloading that... what should i do?
[10:45] <PriceChild> Baalia1, have you tried checking the kernel logs in /var/log ?
[10:45] <LjL> dm, fffffffc is very close to the end, but 596388 is very close to the beginning
[10:46] <Baalia1> Nope
[10:46] <crockodie> but i want to run FTP in my server
[10:46] <Baalia1> Lemme check it right now
[10:46] <LjL> !enter | Baalia1
[10:46] <ubotu> Baalia1: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[10:46] <LjL> leagris: i do miss them
[10:46] <dm> LjL: so, as I understand, this is not worth to try, right?
[10:46] <LjL> dm: unless i'm reading the memtest badram output very incorrectly, no.
[10:46] <vox754> dm, the calculator can convert to Hexadecimal and back
[10:46] <Baalia1> Sorry about that uobutu
[10:46] <crockodie> i dunno how to use ubotu about that commands
[10:47] <vladkorus> PriceChild, RE: that package doesn't exist in ubuntu?-> i see only Syntzx Error on "function FindLibrary() {", nothing about packages
[10:47] <lockd> crockodie: check my message window/page
[10:47] <crockodie> i aint see any msg
[10:47] <vox754> !bot | crockodie
[10:47] <ubotu> crockodie: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:47] <PriceChild> vladkorus, That software you are trying to install isn't in the repos right? So how are you trying to install it?
[10:47] <cerealkiller219> !Enlightenment
[10:47] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[10:47] <cerealkiller219> ..:(
[10:48] <crockodie> yah i see it lockd but cant reply to u need to register first
[10:48] <LjL> vox754, no need to convert, we know the first number is very close to the beginning and the last one to the end. i just wonder whether those number actually mean what i would think they mean, since i don't quite remember badram= format
[10:48] <vladkorus> PriceChild, sudo sh setup.sh
[10:48] <Serideth> Is it possible to move the screen to a different area on my monitor in Ubuntu as my screen to too far to the right and I wish to move it.
[10:49] <PriceChild> vladkorus, please pastebin the entire build log
[10:49] <vox754> LjL, well, conversion is always useful. But yeah, I would say bad memory.
[10:49] <Serideth> anyone?
[10:50] <neverblue2> how do you print from command line ?
[10:50] <PriceChild> Serideth, use your monitor controls
[10:50] <PriceChild> Serideth, the physical ones on the bottom/side to move the screen
[10:50] <dooglus> Serideth: there should be some buttons on the monitor to adjust that
[10:50] <crockodie> !Ftpd | crockodie
[10:50] <Serideth> Pri: It is a second monitor, and it's actually a TV so it doesn't have them
[10:50] <LjL> vox754, the memory *is* bad. the problem here is that badram isn't included as a package anymore.  now, *if* the bad bytes are near the *end* of the chip, he could just give the "mem=" option to the kernel and tell it to ignore the last few bytes of RAM. if it's close to the beginning of the chip, however, that's useless.
[10:50] <lockd> crockodie: register, so you don't spam bots in the channels
[10:50] <PriceChild> crockodie, please use "/msg ubotu ftpd" to avoid unnecessary traffic in here.
[10:51] <Serideth> So I'm kind of stumped on the issue
[10:51] <crockodie> what is the best ftp server to install guys?
[10:51] <rukuartic> proftpd's nice crockodie
[10:51] <PriceChild> !best | crockodie
[10:51] <ubotu> crockodie: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[10:51] <askand> Why does some of my windows dont remember their sizes when they are closed and reopened?  :(
[10:51] <PriceChild> Serideth, use the physical nobs/buttons on the monitor
[10:51] <leagris> Azhi_Dahaka, double click on the packkage or use terminal sudo apkg -i thepackage.deb
[10:51] <gilos> is there an apt-get package for proftpd ?
[10:51] <Serideth> Price: I don't have them as this is a TV I'm using.
[10:51] <PriceChild> askand, application devs don't want to take responsibility of it and metacity people don't want to take responsibility... sorry :)
[10:52] <vox754> LjL, totally agree. I did the math, and the memory is bad from 5 M to 4000 M, so no hope.
[10:52] <BlueBird22> can any one tell any good linux distro specialy build for flash drives ( changing pc and hardware) supported by a good package manager like ubuntu has (for updates and apps).which has kde in it?
[10:52] <PriceChild> ah you said monitor earlier
[10:52] <crockodie> lol ubotu doesnt know about proftpd
[10:52] <Serideth> Price: Yeah, I know sorry _
[10:52] <lockd> gilos: yes there is
[10:52] <askand> PriceChild: :S
[10:52] <walrus> how can i generate a md5 hash from a string ??
[10:52] <askand> PriceChild: ...
[10:52] <leagris> LjL, our modern overpowered GFX card could handle pullable screens nicely. The most cluse to it is X virtual raster if you set it bigger than display size.
[10:53] <PriceChild> Serideth, hmm I'm sure there is a way... I can't remember what they're called but there's a few numbers you can set...
[10:53] <erUSUL> walrus: md5sum ?
[10:53] <lockd> crockodie: search using aptitude or synaptic, there are many options
[10:53] <PriceChild> walrus, md5sum "foo"
[10:53] <sjpenn> hi
[10:53] <Serideth> Price: Ah in a config file somewhere?
[10:53] <kane77> each time I unmount my usb stick it throws an error message that it cannot unmount it.. but afterwards the disk is unmounted... what's with it?
[10:53] <PriceChild> Serideth, in xorg.conf
[10:53] <vladkorus> PriceChild, please pastebin the entire build log>> sorry,i don`t find any log on bin
[10:53] <Serideth> Price: I love you thanks
[10:54] <sjpenn> how do I setup treo 700p with ubuntu?
[10:54] <PriceChild> vladkorus, pastebin the output of the terminal when you do setup.sh
[10:54] <mirak>  lvremove -f ubuntu
[10:54] <mirak>   Can't remove open logical volume "swap"
[10:54] <gilos> cool... found the proftpd
[10:54] <mirak> ????
[10:55] <leagris> mirak, must unallocate swap. Use swapoff
[10:55] <mirak> it's not openj
[10:55] <mirak> I din't understand
[10:55] <vladkorus> PriceChild, HOWTO?
[10:55] <mirak> leagris: it wasn't mounted
[10:55] <PriceChild> vladkorus, copy and paste
[10:55] <mirak> leagris: I have no swap right now
[10:55] <vladkorus>  OK ))
[10:55] <BlueBird22> ?
[10:55] <leagris> mirak, swap is not mounted per see
[10:56] <mirak> leagris: no it's not
[10:56] <vladkorus> #!/bin/bash
[10:56] <vladkorus> #
[10:56] <vladkorus> # Product setup script - Loki Entertainment Software
[10:56] <vladkorus> #
[10:56] <vladkorus> # Modifications by Borland/Inprise Corp.:
[10:56] <vladkorus> # 02/24/2000: added functions CheckKernel, CheckLibc, CheckX and enabling code in MAIN
[10:56] <vladkorus> # 01/24/2002: added FindLibrary function.  Changed CheckJpeg and CheckGtk detection logic.
[10:56] <leagris> mirak, unless you call swapoff, the kernel continue using swap
[10:56] <vladkorus> #
[10:56] <vladkorus> # Version constants to check against
[10:57] <vox754> PriceChild, you should give him the link to the pastebin immediately otherwise this happens a lot
[10:57] <mirak> leagris: it's not even the system swap, it's a secondary drive
[10:57] <PriceChild> vox754, I just did ;)
[10:57] <mirak> leagris: and I already did swapoff
[10:57] <leagris> mirak, ok, sorry
[10:57] <walrus> PriceChild: does not work, he asumes that "foo" is a file ...
[10:57] <joebob777as7> hey just downloaded an update for ubuntu kernal and it removed vista from my grub boot menu... can someone help?
[10:57] <leagris> mirak, did you try fuser -v /dev/thedevicename
[10:57] <PriceChild> walrus, then put it into a text file and md5sum it?
[10:58] <LjL> vox754, err, he's got 1.5Gigs for RAM, so i have trouble seeing how 3.9Gigs could be broken :P
[10:58] <lauriexxx> Hi can anybody recommend a good distribution to try, i am currently on edgy, started linux on ubuntu 6.06, but i d like to try something new, like suse or something fun, any recomendations apreciated
[10:58] <PriceChild> !offtopic > lauriexxx
[10:59] <leagris> lauriexxx, may be you will love feisty ;D
[10:59] <lauriexxx> sorry, i meant i am on feisty
[10:59] <lauriexxx> sorry, i am off topic
[10:59] <lauriexxx> where can a little soul like me go?
[10:59] <PriceChild> lauriexxx, see the pm from ubotu
[10:59] <lauriexxx> ubitu pm
[11:00] <lauriexxx> ubotu pm
[11:00] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[11:00] <vox754> LjL, well that is fffffffc = 4 294 967 292   ... gotta go
[11:00] <joebob777as7> hey just downloaded an update for ubuntu kernal and it removed vista from my grub boot menu... can someone help? i know it's on hd0,1 i just don't know what to put
[11:00] <mirak> leagris: no
[11:00] <dyrne> lauriexxx: /join #ubuntu-offtopic there are a few of us in there
[11:01] <leagris> mirak, fuser -v will tell you which process uses the device so you can see why your problem
[11:01] <PriceChild> vladkorus, did you get hte pm from ubotu?
[11:01] <vladkorus> PriceChild, Y
[11:01] <PriceChild> vladkorus, I don't want to see the file. I want to see what it says when you run it. and please put it on the pastebin
[11:01] <mirak> fuser -v /dev/mapper/ubuntu-swap
[11:01] <mirak> Cannot stat file /proc/7737/fd/4: Permission denied
[11:02] <mirak> leagris: it doesn't work
[11:02] <leagris> Still, someone using pktcdvd here ?
[11:02] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, you there?
[11:03] <r00tintheb0x> sorry carolyn im installing oracle too... a lot on my plate. you get it figured out?
[11:03] <dooglus> where can I find the 2.0.0.4 update for firefox?
[11:03] <crockodie> hey help me i install proftpd but it say proftpd Warning: cannot star neighter inetd or standalone  check you configuration why is that
[11:03] <PriceChild> dooglus, critical security updates and bugfixes will be delivered to you when they're ready.
[11:04] <dooglus> PriceChild: wicked
[11:04] <leagris> Yesterday spend 3 hours late at night to diagnose uability to play last titles from a DVD. Went to RPC1 firmware update and upgrade to latest libdvdcss2 to find (how night gives clue) that the device was pointed to pktcdvd and it was the issue.
[11:04] <crockodie> PriceChild u there?
[11:04] <PriceChild> crockodie, hey
[11:04] <crockodie> i have FTP probelm
[11:04] <crockodie> hey help me i install proftpd but it say proftpd Warning: cannot star neighter inetd or standalone  check you configuration why is that
[11:04] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, nope :(
[11:04] <PriceChild> crockodie, i have no idea, i advise you to find a walkthrough for it
[11:04] <dooglus> crockodie: looks like a bunch of typos to me.  report it in the tracker.
[11:05] <raf256> is there some voice chat for linux? open source one (not google talk)
[11:05] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, you need to figure out what format the partition is in, ext3 reisersfs etc.
[11:05] <r00tintheb0x> Can you mount it?
[11:05] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, it's mounted, but it's read only...
[11:05] <r00tintheb0x> can you see the data?
[11:05] <leagris> !partprobe | carolyn
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about partprobe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <r00tintheb0x> if you do a LS?
[11:06] <dooglus> raf256: text LINUXHUNK to 78899 to meet hot linux hunks in your area tonight.
[11:06] <leagris> carolyn, partprobe will guess and tell your partition types availables on a block device.
[11:06] <raf256> dogmeat: uhm
[11:06] <dooglus> wot did you call me?
[11:07] <r00tintheb0x> !mount | carolyn
[11:07] <ubotu> carolyn: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:07] <walrus> PriceChild: yes, i tought that .. but i just want plain "foo" hash .. i dont know if text files have some other data hanging around ... but thx anyway ... ill try text file in worst case .. sorry to be such noob :)
[11:07] <squee> is it possible to use a virtual pc image in linux? (or to convert it?)
[11:07] <vladkorus> paste
[11:08] <mirak> leagris: it doesn't help
[11:08] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, where is the partition mounted?
[11:08] <joebob777as7> hey just downloaded an update for ubuntu kernal and it removed vista from my grub boot menu... can someone help? i know it's on hd0,1 i just don't know what to put in menu.lst
[11:08] <leagris> mirak, sorry, don't know how
[11:08] <erUSUL> joebob777as7: there is an example on how to boot windows in the coments of menu.lst
[11:08] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, the external? it's in /media
[11:09] <novato_br> plz, when I go out from at my PC, it's sleeping mode and My network is go turn off
[11:09] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, what do you get back from "mount"?
[11:09] <novato_br> why?
[11:09] <r00tintheb0x> What partition is mounted @ /media
[11:09] <carolyn> legaris, this is what happened: carolyn@carolyns-laptop:~$ partprobe /media/fireHOSE [ENTER]  Warning: Unable to open /media/fireHOSE read-write (Is a directory).  /media/fireHOSE has been opened read-only. [ENTER]  Error: The device /media/fireHOSE has zero length, and can't possibly store a file system or partition table.  Perhaps you selected the wrong device?
[11:09] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, you're going to have to answer my questions fully, im not going to probe you for information.
[11:10] <r00tintheb0x> What mount point is your external drive mounted at.
[11:10] <chamunks> is there a way i can give a php script in my apache server exclusive access to a specific file without writing up a chmod script to give it access just long enough to run it and switch it back
[11:10] <r00tintheb0x>  /media/?????
[11:10] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, gimme a sec
[11:10] <r00tintheb0x> okay
[11:12] <r00tintheb0x> My farts smell like fried eggs and syrup
[11:12] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, here's what terminal gives me when i type in mount: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23650/
[11:12] <PriceChild> r00tintheb0x, please don't
[11:13] <r00tintheb0x> wrong window PriceChild sorry
[11:13] <fuzzy_logic> hello people
[11:13] <chamunks> is it possible to give one file direct permission to another
[11:13] <erUSUL> carolyn: what are you trying to do?
[11:14] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, paste me the output of "sudo fdisk -l"
[11:14] <fuzzy_logic> i am out of disk space, i would like to use the rest of my ntfs disk that is right now used by windows.. how can i merge that partition with the existing ubuntu partition ONLY in the terminal?
[11:14] <oldgeezer> ok I got a weird problem, the desktop has shifted to the right and it is not a monitor issue. It was correct and I had a program crash at a different resolution and now I cannot get it to recenter
[11:14] <novato_br> help me
[11:14] <carolyn> erUSUL, i'm trying to put a file onto an external OS X harddrive
[11:14] <novato_br> who can see me, here?
[11:14] <novato_br> here?
[11:14] <novato_br> ki saco
[11:14] <novato_br> americanos fdp
[11:14] <PriceChild> novato_br, please ask a question if you want help
[11:14] <novato_br> heehe
[11:14] <novato_br> yep, PriceChild
[11:15] <Azhi_Dahaka> Hi
[11:15] <novato_br> i've tried
[11:15] <me> \
[11:15] <PriceChild> !enter > novato_br (see pm from ubotu)
[11:15] <Azhi_Dahaka> I'm installing 6.06 right now
[11:15] <novato_br> my computer go to sleeping mode
[11:15] <PriceChild> !away > Zvezdichko`sleep
[11:15] <fuzzy_logic> anyone help me please?
[11:15] <novato_br> my networking goes down
[11:15] <novato_br> why?
[11:15] <magnetron> !enter
[11:15] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[11:16] <erUSUL> carolyn: if it's something you do from time to time just use 'sudo cp file /path/to/folder' if you want to use the hpfs fs regulary you may want to make entries for them in /etc/fstab so you can access them as a regular user
[11:16] <PriceChild> novato_br, system > preferences > power management - you can change it there
[11:16] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451987&highlight=mount+hfs
[11:16] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, check your pms
[11:16] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, you're not registered with NickServ... im not getting them.
[11:16] <vladkorus> PriceChild, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23652/
[11:16] <novato_br> but i want keep the power manangement, PriceChild
[11:16] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, just paste the link in here.
[11:16] <novato_br> my pc is turn on every day
[11:17] <askand> Is there a place I can get more applets for my gnomepanel? :D
[11:17] <bytecolor> oldgeezer, have you tried restarting X?
[11:17] <PriceChild> novato_br, you can make it stay longer before it sleeps then
[11:17] <oldgeezer> bytecolor no, how do I do that?
[11:17] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23651/
[11:17] <novato_br> but PriceChild , why?
[11:17] <sldkfj> just a quick question:  when asked if you want to install the boot loader on another drive, it won't format that drive before it installs it will it?
[11:17] <novato_br> why it does connect automatically on internet?
[11:17] <PriceChild> vladkorus, that means there is a syntax error on line 93... I was expecting a bit more than that... If I were you I would google the error
[11:17] <Nighteye> you tell me ;)
[11:18] <bytecolor> old ctrl+alt+backspace... it will close all your open apps to, so beware... like your chat client
[11:18] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, is your external drive mounted @ fireHOSE or jezebel ?
[11:18] <tomex> how do I get Alcarte menu on Ubuntu 7.04?
[11:18] <PriceChild> tomer, right click menu > edit menu
[11:18] <oldgeezer> bytecolor ok I will try it brb
[11:18] <bytecolor> oldgeezer, you should get the ubuntu login
[11:18] <erUSUL> sldkfj: installing the bootloader only affects the mbr of the disk
[11:18] <PriceChild> tomer, system > preferences > main menu
[11:18] <tomex> Thank You!!
[11:18] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, use this pastebin... its faster
[11:18] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, paste me the output of "df -h"
[11:18] <r00tintheb0x> http://pastebin.ca/
[11:19] <Azhi_Dahaka> anyway... this is the 3rd reinstall of ubuntu on the day
[11:19] <Pollywog> if I am getting errors from MySQL about a corrupt debian-maint database, should I remove (purge) MySQL and then reinstall?
[11:19] <Azhi_Dahaka> i'm doing 6.06
[11:19] <h3h_timo> does anyone know if the ubuntu starter guide is down or is it my connection?
[11:19] <vladkorus> PriceChild, on other Distr - Red Hat, has no this...
[11:19] <Azhi_Dahaka> i HOPE that audio works this time
[11:19] <PriceChild> vladkorus, try starting it with bash setup.sh
[11:20] <puff> I have two boxes in the same hosting center.  One box, the ssh session tends to disconnect after a short idle period.  The other box, it lasts for days.
[11:20] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, http://pastebin.ca/529281
[11:20] <puff> Any idea what setting I should check on the first box?
[11:20] <gilos> I installed proftpd is there a iptables / ipchains or someother type of firewall blocking it now?
[11:20] <r00tintheb0x> Pollywog, corrupt debian-maint database
[11:20] <r00tintheb0x> http://www.infodrom.org/Debian/doc/maint/Maintenance-pkgmaint.html
[11:20] <novato_br> where can I find the best fonts to ubuntu?
[11:20] <vladkorus> PriceChild, thx !!!  Libgtk version >= 1.2.0....FAILED
[11:20] <vladkorus>  ))
[11:20] <oldgeezer> bytecolor thank you that seems to have done the trick
[11:20] <PriceChild> !fonts > novato_br
[11:20] <Pollywog> r00tintheb0x: ty
[11:20] <novato_br> !fonts
[11:20] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[11:20] <bytecolor> oldgeezer, welcome
[11:20] <PriceChild> vladkorus, ok so we're further...
[11:20] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, paste me "fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
[11:21] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, the external is fireHOSE, my OS X internal harddrive is jezebel. can't tranfer to either
[11:21] <r00tintheb0x> okay carolyn
[11:21] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, paste me "fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
[11:21] <novato_br> thx, PriceChild
[11:21] <kane77> can java be installed through nspluginwrapper?
[11:21] <r00tintheb0x> kane77, no
[11:21] <r00tintheb0x> java can be installed through APT although
[11:21] <r00tintheb0x> however, whatever.
[11:21] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[11:21] <carolyn> r00tintheb0x, http://pastebin.ca/529284
[11:22] <Pollywog> r00tintheb0x: I think you misunderstood, it is mysql that is complaining and not the packaging system
[11:22] <etronik_> Hello all, I'm running Dapper and installed Bacula backup utility, problem is the version from the repository is very old 1.36 and the latest is 2.0.3, upgrade advisable ??
[11:22] <kane77> r00tintheb0x, i mean the pluggin for firefox for 64-bit
[11:22] <r00tintheb0x> ok Pollywog someone will have to help you right now.
[11:22] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[11:22] <jake__> Does anyone know how to change the title width in the mac menu bar?
[11:22] <r00tintheb0x> You need a macspert.
[11:22] <sldkfj> erUSUL, thanks for the help.
[11:22] <r00tintheb0x> i think fdisk is fdisk though, especially when working with OSX
[11:23] <novato_br> is there a way can I get the drivers for my chipset?
[11:23] <novato_br> my chipset is nvidia nforce 430
[11:23] <novato_br> !nvidia
[11:23] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:23] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, looks like sdb is unformatted to me.
[11:24] <r00tintheb0x> i'll be back on @ 6:00pm guys... i need a break :) good luck carolyn
[11:24] <hub_> hi
[11:24] <ShawnMcCuan> see you later.
[11:25] <pmo> Does anyone have an idea how i can find my DVB device? (USB)
[11:25] <JLTorrente> hi
[11:25] <JLTorrente> crap
[11:25] <ShawnMcCuan> ?
[11:26] <ShawnMcCuan> What does the "DVB" acronym stand for?
[11:26] <aleksanteri> how can i know the free space, used space and total space of a disk (from the console)?
[11:26] <Azhi_Dahaka> OK... i JUST installed 6.06 and sound isn't working
[11:27] <Azhi_Dahaka> sorry for the bothering but this is important
[11:27] <ShawnMcCuan> to find out the diskspace, open a terminal and simply type   "df"
[11:27] <erUSUL> !sound | Azhi_Dahaka
[11:27] <ubotu> Azhi_Dahaka: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:27] <str4> sup?
[11:27] <aleksanteri> ShawnMcCuan: thanks
[11:27] <Will404[2] > hey can anyone give me some help with a problem with dpkg?
[11:27] <login_> hi guys
[11:27] <pmo> Does anyone have an idea how i can find my DVB device? (USB)
[11:28] <Will404[2] > I need some help on removing vmware
[11:28] <login_> i need to connect to an eternel-blue scanlations irc channel but i have n0o idea how
[11:28] <login_> :(
[11:28] <etronik_> !backup
[11:28] <Will404[2] > as it didnt install correctly
[11:28] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning
[11:28] <Will404[2] > and it wont load right now
[11:28] <login_> i do / join eternal-blue but it doesnt work
[11:28] <Will404[2] > or uninstall
[11:28] <etronik_> !bacula
[11:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bacula - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:28] <Azhi_Dahaka> erUSUL, thx but i'm way past that temporary fixes
[11:29] <Will404[2] > anyone help?
[11:30] <riadh> Hi All
[11:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok... i found it
[11:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> 7.04 is crap
[11:30] <riadh> I have an ATI Problem
[11:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> 6.06 worked out of the box!
[11:30] <riadh> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> riadh, audio problem?
[11:30] <PriceChild> Azhi_Dahaka, then use 6.06?
[11:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> Yep
[11:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> ^_^
[11:30] <Fawaz> i need help with something.. I istalled Ubuntu server. it finished copying file then required a restart .. it restartted but after it boot it only show GRUB nothing happens after
[11:30] <Azhi_Dahaka> Installed it and audio is working flawlessly
[11:30] <Fawaz> any hekp?
[11:30] <riadh> any idea how I can get this to work?
[11:31] <crockodie> hello how can i delete shell user
[11:31] <phin> what is the ubuntu eye candy chan?
[11:31] <Azhi_Dahaka> ok... how can i update everything on 6.06?
[11:31] <PriceChild> phin, #ubuntu-effects
[11:31] <phin> thanks
[11:31] <PriceChild> Azhi_Dahaka, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:31] <riadh> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:31] <Fawaz> please help anyone
[11:31] <kane77> how can I get java plugin running in 64-bit buntu?
[11:31] <crockodie> anyone can teach me howto delete a shell user
[11:32] <crockodie> PriceChild can u teach me how to delete shell user
[11:32] <kane77> crockodie, userdel
[11:32] <crockodie> thanks
[11:32] <stefg> Fawaz: where did you install ubuntu? (partition?)
[11:32] <madsporkmurderer> I have just installed tilda on my feisty machine but when I try to run it I get 'Segmentation fault (core dumped)'
[11:32] <PriceChild> crockodie, deluser
[11:32] <crockodie> not working
[11:32] <crockodie> is it sudo deluser <id>?
[11:33] <PriceChild> crockodie, no, their name
[11:33] <riadh> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:33] <riadh> any idea?
[11:33] <Fawaz> stefg: on scici partition
[11:33] <riadh> how to get this problem solved
[11:33] <crockodie> yah for exapmple sudo deluser robert
[11:33] <crockodie> is it right ?
[11:33] <erUSUL> Azhi_Dahaka: alsamixer on console works?
[11:34] <ahsia_> .msg NickServ help register
[11:34] <jrib> aleksanteri: df -h
[11:34] <jake__> Does anyone know how to change the width of the mac menu bar?
[11:34] <Fawaz> stefg: would that be a problem?
[11:34] <aleksanteri> jrib: a bit late.... got the answer already. thanks anyways :)
[11:34] <crockodie> how can i see user list
[11:34] <stefg> Fawaz: it might be that grub can't see that partition.Do you have 2machines (you can be on IRC have grub on the other)?
[11:34] <jrib> aleksanteri: oh ok, bot error then :)
[11:35] <jrib> tomex: right click on the ubuntu icon and press "edit menus"
[11:35] <Azhi_Dahaka> erUSUL: Nothing worked on 7.04
[11:35] <jrib> gilos: there are no iptables rules set by default
[11:35] <nollidj> hello.  is there any information about having an out-of-date SVN::Client under feisty?
[11:35] <Fawaz> stegg: this machine is my laptop .. i have a problem with my server the machine infront of me
[11:35] <Azhi_Dahaka> 7.04 has a kernel bug that involves my audio chip
[11:35] <Fawaz> stefg: how can i make GRUB see the partition?
[11:36] <Shawn_McCuan> for some reason i ended up getting disconnected....strange.
[11:36] <jrib> !themes > MrObvious (see the private message from ubotu)
[11:36] <MrObvious> jrib: Why now?
[11:36] <MrObvious> :|
[11:36] <stefg> Fawaz: you can't make, you can only test if grub sees it. if not you'll have to have a boot partition on a drive that grub can see
[11:36] <MrObvious> I already got it.
[11:36] <Shawn_McCuan> Did someone help the guy that was looking for a terminal app to find out disk space? I was trying to reply but I got disconnected.
[11:37] <jrib> Shawn_McCuan: I just responded
[11:37] <Fawaz> stefg: i had red hat installed previously on the same partition.. does red hat uses grub?
[11:37] <jrib> Shawn_McCuan: and he's gone now
[11:37] <Shawn_McCuan> jrib: Alright. :)
[11:37] <nollidj> ah, i see... libsvn-core-perl is supplanted by libsvn-perl
[11:37] <nollidj> great
[11:37] <Fawaz> stefg: how can i test
[11:37] <Kalisto> anyone care to comment why it takes ubuntu bug admins 1 YEAR from a patch being written until it is reviewed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-mount/+bug/48407
[11:37] <stefg> Fawaz: don#t use it, but it's pretty likey
[11:37] <stefg> Fawaz:I  don't use it, but it's pretty likely
[11:38] <Fawaz> stefg: how can i test my grub if it sees it or not?
[11:38] <Chetwin> Hi all.  I've heard rumors that it's better to have certain partitions in certain sections of a hard drive because certain sections are read faster etc etc etc...  Is this a rumor?  The read / write speed
[11:38] <ARfdee> hi
[11:38] <ARfdee> anyone using s2ram?
[11:39] <stefg> Fawaz: get a grub-command line at boot and issue 'find /boot/grub/stage1'
[11:39] <riadh> Azhi_Dahaka, it is rather a video card problem
[11:39] <juancgt> so what does feisty use for desktop effects? (beryl or compiz)
[11:39] <Azhi_Dahaka> well... i'm going into that fight later
[11:39] <PriceChild> juancgt, compiz
[11:39] <Azhi_Dahaka> the audio one wore me
[11:39] <juancgt> PriceChild: anyway to edit the default preferences?
[11:39] <riadh> yes ... the video is even worse believe me
[11:39] <Azhi_Dahaka> out
[11:39] <PriceChild> juancgt, gconf-editor
[11:40] <deep`> anyone know how i can make irssi use ctrl instead of alt?
[11:40] <Fawaz> stefg: how can i get to the command line.. the PC kinda not resposes after showing the word GRUB.. is there key i press while booting to get to command line?
[11:40] <Jowi> Chetwin, it's not  a rumour but the gains are not so obvious these days (general hard drive/bus speed improvements). That is my opinion, off topic, at least.
[11:40] <CarlFK> what is a console app that will show me cpu temp?
[11:40] <fxfitz> Hi. I'm installing Feisty on another computer right now and on the screen where it asks you your location the picture is SO big I can't even click the "Next" button on the bottom of the window because the window goes down past the bottom panel. Does anyone know a way to fix this/??
[11:41] <Kalisto> any ubuntu developers here I need to know how to contact the right person to take a look and maybe fix a bug i have found?
[11:41] <Jowi> fxfitz, try to move the window with alt+left click.
[11:41] <CarlFK> Kalisto:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[11:41] <PriceChild> !bug > Kalisto (see pm from ubotu)
[11:41] <stefg> Fawaz: ok, grub isn't installed properly.... so the machine is obviously unbootable. not much you can do, except booting a live-cd and try to fix grub from there
[11:42] <MrObvious> Is there a way I can get the network manager to remember my WPA key instead of typing it in each time I load X?
[11:42] <Jowi> fxfitz, also, if you have such a bad resolution from the live cd maybe the alternate cd is a good option for you.
[11:42] <fxfitz> jovi, I can move it, but I can't move it up enough to get to the next button :(:(
[11:42] <Jowi> !alternate | fxfitz
[11:42] <ubotu> fxfitz: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[11:42] <Azhi_Dahaka> How can i get the Human Startup Screen with little icons?
[11:42] <ShawnMcCuan_> I keep getting disconnected...very frustrating.
[11:43] <kane77> is there any reason why there isn't java plugin for 64-bit? afaik java is open source so why not building it for 64-bit?
[11:43] <Fawaz> stefg: any suggestions on how to fix it or where to look ?
[11:43] <fxfitz> Jowi, Aww. Text mode? Alright, I guess that would be good since the GUI runs sooooooooo slow.
[11:43] <Kalisto> CarlFK, PriceChild iv done that but i dont think it will be looked at by the right people. im trying to find the people who are in charge of pam on ubuntu but cant find them.
[11:43] <PriceChild> kalila, did you assign it to the correct package?
[11:43] <EADG__> deep`: Probly not a good idea as many, many other console apps use ctlr+... Screen for example. Not sure how to cahnge, but ~.irssi/config would be a starting piont.
[11:43] <erUSUL> CarlFK: sensors
[11:43] <stefg> !grub | Fawaz
[11:43] <ubotu> Fawaz: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:43] <PriceChild> Kalisto, did you assign it to the correct package?
[11:43] <Kalisto> PriceChild, yes i did
[11:43] <Jowi> fxfitz, the text mode install is actually quite easy and pretty similar to its UI counterpart.
[11:43] <jrib> kane77: ask sun, there's a bug that's several years old about it... and where is java's source?
[11:43] <CarlFK> erUSUL:  E: Couldn't find package sensors
[11:44] <PriceChild> Kalisto, then please be patient, someone will find it. Please give them more information if they ask for it.
[11:44] <Fawaz> stefg: thanx let me see what i can do
[11:44] <ShawnMcCuan_> lol :) My other "sign in" just timed out...
[11:44] <fxfitz> Jowi, Awesome. Sounds good. I actually wish I knew about it sooner because, well, is it just me or is the LiveCD extremely slow for everyone??
[11:44] <deep`> Ah, true. Thanx though, EADG__. (:
[11:44] <vladkorus> PriceChild, Yeaaa...  ))) kylix installation complete )) BUG on script - bad search library function only...
[11:44] <vladkorus> PriceChild, thx )
[11:44] <EADG__> deep`: #irssi would be an excellant place to inquire also.
[11:45] <Kalisto> PriceChild, the bug is confirmed and all but im wondering when someone will notice.
[11:45] <Jowi> fxfitz, the live cd is not slow for everyone but it can happen.
[11:45] <erUSUL> CarlFK: lm-sensors
[11:45] <ShawnMcCuan_> fxfitz: the livecd is slow...it's running from you CD drive which is limited by both the cdrom speed and the amount of RAM in your system.
[11:45] <hydan> how do you make a screencast?
[11:45] <CarlFK> erUSUL:  thanks.  thought it was lm, missed the -
[11:45] <PriceChild> Kalisto, they will notice when they notice. The only way you can speed it up is by finding a fix and creating diffs etc.
[11:45] <erUSUL> !lm-esnsors
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lm-esnsors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <erUSUL> !lm-sensors
[11:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lm-sensors - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:45] <CarlFK> hydan: look on http://showmedo.com
[11:45] <fxfitz> Ahh. Gotcha.
[11:46] <kane77> jrib, you mean sources for jvm?
[11:47] <Chetwin> !partitioning
[11:47] <Kalisto> PriceChild, well after seeing that it can take a year after someone writes a fix and someone 'NOTICES" im not too positive about ubuntu bug reporting system. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpam-mount/+bug/48407
[11:47] <jrib> kane77: yeah
[11:47] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[11:47] <hydan> CarlFK: thanks :)
[11:47] <Jowi> hydan, also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts/Istanbul
[11:48] <hydan> Jowi: will do.
[11:48] <PriceChild> kalila, ok so there is a patch... you could make a debdiff if you want?
[11:48] <jrib> kane77: fwiw, I use blackdown java plugin.  It's an old java version, but I don't really care for anything that's java on the web
[11:49] <phylogenesis> I just installed Ubuntu, I got it online and everything, then I tried to update from Edgy Eft 6.10 to Fiesty Fawn 7.04 and it downloaded 945 of 949 files, then stopped and told me to check my connection
[11:49] <phylogenesis> I reset my router, now I can go online again(it was my router's fault), but the update manager no longer gives me the option to upgrade
[11:50] <gonzaloaf_work> does logrotate rotate the /var/log/auth.log file?
[11:50] <kalon33> phylogenesis: update-manager -c -d, you try it ?
[11:50] <MrObvious> Where do I go to make a specific command start up once the computer has booted automatically (much like a service)?
[11:50] <Goop> hello all
[11:50] <kalon33> in a terminal ?
[11:50] <techjim> elkbuntu_ : is there any chance you could show me your wp-commentsrss2.php?  I can't get priyadi's plugin to work inside my comments
[11:50] <MrObvious> Goop: Howdy.
[11:50] <pietro10> hi Goop
[11:51] <Azhi_Dahaka> How can i get the Human Startup Screen with little icons on Ubuntu 6.06 LTS?
[11:51] <Goop> I need help wit a windows problem, but I'm using ubuntu at the mo
[11:51] <phylogenesis> kalon33:  yes, but it used to have a button at the top (in the update manager) to upgrade, now it's not there, even after clicking check, and entering that line
[11:51] <Jowi> MrObvious, put the script in /etc/init.d and symlink it to /etc/rc2.d
[11:51] <pietro10> Azi_Dahaka: what do you mean "little icons
[11:51] <pietro10> What's the issue, Goop?
[11:51] <MrObvious> Jowi: Ok thanks.
[11:52] <Goop> I get the common 'could not find /windows/system32/config/system' error
[11:52] <pietro10> ouch
[11:52] <stefg> !windows | Goop
[11:52] <ubotu> Goop: For help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and !equivalents
[11:52] <kalon33> phylogenesis: such a strange thing...
[11:52] <Jowi> MrObvious, you can also have it start once the user have logged in with the gnome session manager (depends on how you want it of course)
[11:52] <pietro10> ubotu is funny
[11:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is funny - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:52] <Goop> the built-in philips repair will get windows to the logon screen, then restart.
[11:52] <kalon33> phylogenesis: have you burn a feisty alternate cd ?
[11:52] <pietro10> that wasn't for ubotu to comment on - he is a bot
[11:52] <kalon33> (or could)
[11:52] <phylogenesis> no, I just tried to download it just now
[11:52] <MrObvious> Jowi: It's just FAH.
[11:53] <kane77> jrib, btw https://openjdk.dev.java.net/source/browse/openjdk/
[11:53] <phylogenesis> I burned an Edgy CD and installed from that (to get where I am now)
[11:53] <MrObvious> So hopefully it'll work with the init.d stuff.
[11:53] <kane77> so java _is_ open source...
[11:53] <phylogenesis> (burned the Edgy cd a few months ago)
[11:53] <preaction> kane77: it is now, i don't know what kind of license Sun is using for it though
[11:54] <PriceChild> kane77, its slowly being opensoruced
[11:54] <kane77> preaction, gpl2
[11:54] <kalon33> phylogenesis: at the root of the feisty alternate cd, there is a cdrom_upgrade script, to launch as root, which can upgrade your system without needing a network connection
[11:54] <kalon33> maybe should you try this
[11:54] <pietro10> If that's java, then how long is it going to take? They announced opensource about 10 years ago
[11:54] <kane77> preaction, they backed up from their CDDL and chose gpl instead...
[11:55] <Azhi_Dahaka> Anyone knows how Corel Draw runs on Wine?
[11:55] <Jowi> MrObvious, just have a look on how the names are constructed in /etc/rc2.d. low (S01) number boot before high (S99) number.
[11:55] <pietro10> public class Sun { public static final bool isSlow = true; public static final tryingToAvoidOpenSource = true; }
[11:55] <phylogenesis> kalon33:  so I have to download another 700MB for a CD?
[11:55] <MrObvious> Yay
[11:55] <AMDfanboy> hey guys, how is the canon printer support?
[11:55] <phylogenesis> isn't there some command I can use to tell it to install fiesty?
[11:55] <Pollywog> I think I fixed my MySQL problem
[11:55] <MrObvious> I think that should do it.
[11:55] <AMDfanboy> what if i use a multifunction will i be able to use the scanner?
[11:56] <pietro10> AMDfanboy: Ubuntu has one of the best hardware support out of any Linux distro. It *should* be excellent.
[11:56] <kalon33> phylogenesis: try "sudo update-manager -c -d" (to launch it as root)
[11:56] <Pollywog> phylogenesis: are you upgrading Edgy to Feisty?
[11:56] <MrObvious> piedoggie: Except for bcm43xx chips, but oh well.
[11:56] <phylogenesis> Pollywog, yes, from 6.10 to 7.04
[11:56] <mangojambo> hi ... I'm  using twinview in Ubuntu feisty and always I maximize some windows (or fullscreen in videos) it will in the middle of 2 monitors ...the configuration was Absolute +0+0 / Right of +1152+0 ... and yestarday I'd tried Absolute +0+0 Absolute +1152+0 and tadaaa!! fullscreen in just 1 monitor ... but today it dont work!! :( .. why ???
[11:56] <Pollywog> do what kalon33 suggests
[11:56] <stefg> !printer | AMDfanboy
[11:56] <ubotu> AMDfanboy: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[11:56] <nickrud> AMDfanboy, the hp psc series; I've used a few & scanning was fine
[11:56] <kalon33> phylogenesis: but if it doesn't work, It's too dangerous to try with apt
[11:56] <Pollywog> that is better than aptget
[11:57] <AMDfanboy> thanks guys!
[11:57] <Jowi> AMDfanboy, depends on the device. have a look at openprinting.org to be sure.
[11:57] <MrObvious> Now to go to fold some clothes.
[11:57] <MrObvious> Yay...........
[11:57] <phylogenesis> I love you... like a friend...
[11:57] <luca> hi everyone
[11:57] <nesta> hie
[11:57] <luca> can someone please help me install compiz-git?
[11:57] <pietro10> hello
[11:57] <Jowi> have fun MrObvious ;)
[11:57] <nesta> il y a des francais??
[11:57] <pietro10> Why compiz and not beryl?
[11:57] <kalon33> nesta: oui
[11:57] <pietro10> !fr | nesta
[11:57] <ubotu> nesta: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:57] <MrObvious> Jowi: Thanks lol.
[11:57] <r00tintheb0x> carolyn, you ever get it fixed?
[11:58] <kalon33> nesta: fais comme ubotu te dit ^^
[11:58] <Goop> ok then, since I wont get any windows help here, is there any way to get write support on NTFS on the 60.6 livecd?
[11:58] <nesta> viii
[11:58] <nesta> merci
[11:58] <pietro10> Get ntfs-3g
[11:58] <Goop> *6.06
[11:58] <kalon33> nesta: de rien
[11:58] <phylogenesis> gotta go THANK YOU kalon33
[11:58] <dusty1> hello
[11:58] <luca> pietro10 I am using beryl, but wanted to give the latest compiz a chance :)
[11:58] <kalon33> je suis aussi l bas :p
[11:58] <pietro10> ok
[11:58] <Jowi> !ntfs | Goop
[11:58] <ubotu> Goop: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[11:58] <pietro10> !compiz
[11:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[11:58] <bofh80> hey Goop i can give ya windows help if ya wanna pm me :D i know it better than linux :P
[11:59] <dusty1> im new to ubuntu and i have a question when ever install a program i get an error
[11:59] <pietro10> what is the error dusty?
[11:59] <tovella> Jowi: can you actually install ntfs support using a liveCD?
[11:59] <dusty1> can i copy and paste it or will it be a flood?
[11:59] <pietro10> BTW - ubotu's @t just gave me a Hurricane Katrina quote :-(
[11:59] <pietro10> dusty: use a pastebin such as http://www.slexy.org/
[12:00] <n2diy> ! pastebin | dusty1
[12:00] <ubotu> dusty1: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:00] <bofh80> tovella, from what i've seen, you can load /  install anything within space constraints (ie availble physical memory . .. .  )
[12:00] <whonicca> can someone help me, im trying to install ubuntu, this is what i get when it gets to the formatting and partitioning part, http://pastebin.ca/529371
[12:00] <Jowi> tovella, should work. you can modprobe any driver that you need to add. and you can apt-get. so i would say "why not" :)
[12:00] <kane77> so if we all agreed that java is opensource, may I ask again why exactly there isn't a 64-bit java plugin?
[12:00] <pietro10> whonicca: weird...
[12:01] <whonicca> very =\
[12:01] <pietro10> kane77: ...
[12:01] <whonicca> that drive is ok