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PhinnFortLevi-: what exactly do you want?12:14
Levi-the old partition takes up the entire disk12:14
Levi-I dont think theres much i can do12:15
Levi--.-12:15
PhinnFortLevi-: on your slave you have a single partition?12:15
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Levi-Yeah12:15
PhinnFortLevi-: have you looked into what it contains?12:15
Levi-hm12:15
Levi-I dont have enough ram to back it up12:15
PhinnFortLevi-: hum?12:15
Levi-if i was to copy all the data to ram12:15
Levi-as in on the live cds desktop12:16
PhinnFortLevi-: but what is on that partition?12:16
Levi-Music I had irreplaceable photos12:16
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PhinnFortLevi-: and you want to back them up somewhere, and then repartition, and use the partition for ubuntu?12:17
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PhinnForthow about uploading them to some online storage?12:17
Levi-I cant get my desktop online12:17
tom_burn to dvd?12:17
Levi-only a CD rw drive12:18
Levi-and two CD rs12:18
PhinnFortLevi-: crossed tp-cable and another computer?12:18
tom_lol12:18
PhinnFortsamba/nfs?12:18
tom_get another hd lol?12:18
Levi-lol12:18
PhinnFort:P12:18
PhinnFortLevi-: where in the world are you, I have some 10GB's to spare?12:18
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Levi-is ther a way to network two compys together without a router or switch?12:19
tom_yea12:19
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Levi-Oooohhhh HOw12:19
PhinnFortLevi-: crossed network cable12:19
Levi-My laptop has wondows tho12:19
tom_u need a crossover cable12:19
Levi-dont have that12:19
PhinnFort[00:20]  <PhinnFort> Levi-: crossed tp-cable and another computer?12:19
tom_only cost about 2 quid12:19
Levi-quid..?12:19
PhinnFortLevi-: if you're lucky, your NICs will adjust automatically with a normal cable12:19
tom_sorry, my yorkshire accent, 212:19
Levi-which is how much USD12:20
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PhinnFortLevi-: some modern network cards work with just a normal network cable between computers12:20
tom_$4?12:20
Levi-Im American12:20
Levi-lol12:20
tom_ish12:20
Levi-Thanks12:20
PhinnFortLevi-: I got mine for free;)12:20
tom_depends where u get it frm lol12:20
PhinnFort(I know the dudes who make them, though)12:20
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Levi-BLah you and your freeness12:20
tom_make ur own :P12:20
PhinnFortLevi-: I guess you're in the states?12:20
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Levi-Yes12:20
PhinnForttoo bad...12:20
Levi-im SOL12:20
PhinnFortlots of shipping...12:20
Levi-xD12:20
PhinnFort?12:21
Levi-Sh*t outta luck12:21
PhinnFortah...;)12:21
tom_so get a cable then?12:21
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PhinnForthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOL doesn't mention that...12:21
Levi-naahhh see that costs money which is something i dont have.... =)12:21
Levi-well wikipedia is wrong12:21
Levi-Im gonna add that12:21
tom_lol tight wad :P12:21
Levi-lol12:22
DagonXWhat is the way to unlock ADD/REMOVE programs12:22
PhinnFortLevi-: I'm sure you have something you can sell for a couple of "bucks"12:22
PhinnFortDagonX: ?12:22
Levi-lopl12:22
Levi-*lol12:22
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Levi-hm maybe actually12:22
tom_sell your shoes!12:22
PhinnFortyour grandmotheR?12:22
Levi-I DO have old arse computer cards12:22
tom_haha12:22
Levi-sound cards etc12:22
PhinnFortLevi-: go trade them in;)12:22
Levi-I coul12:22
Levi-d12:22
ubuntu__booted kubuntu LIVEDVD and  wan  to see vista partition12:23
=== PhinnFort have loads of old ISA cards, if anyone wants them
Levi-but my dad just took the truck12:23
tom_meeee12:23
subsonic_my internet connection is a joke tonight!!!12:23
tom_free?12:23
ubuntu__in system settings12:23
DagonXThe add/remove program says the database is locked and it wants a previous opened version close.12:23
PhinnForttom_: do you pay the shipping?;)12:23
DagonXThe is after a fresh boot12:23
PhinnFort!aptfix | DagonX12:23
ubotuDagonX: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 12:23
tom_PhinnFort: hmmmm12:23
PhinnFortDagonX: capisce?12:23
DagonXthanks - I will give that a try12:23
PhinnForttell me if it works, I won't sleep well tonight12:24
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Levi-my desktop froze12:24
Levi-great12:24
PhinnFortfun12:24
Levi--.-12:24
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PhinnFortLevi-: sure it's just the harddrive that's b0rked?12:24
Levi-I was trying to configure wireless12:25
ubuntu__liveDVD kubuntu boot wont let me peep into existing xp  partitions12:25
PhinnFortLevi-: alt+prtscr+k12:25
PhinnFort!ntfs | ubuntu__12:25
ubotuubuntu__: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse12:25
Levi-what goodll that do me12:25
Levi-its frozen12:25
PhinnFortLevi-: it should kill all open programs in current terminal12:25
Levi-Oh.. I see/12:25
Levi-well still no luck12:26
PhinnForthttp://lxr.linux.no/source/Documentation/sysrq.txt12:26
Levi-Igotta remember that one12:26
ubuntu__PhinnFort: special case livedvd boot12:26
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Levi-PhinnFort, my mouse wouldnt move12:26
dwidmann_uh oh12:26
ubuntu__In a future release, when [WWW]  LiveCD does not mount hard disk partitions (yet) is fixed, this step should be almost automatic.12:26
PhinnFortubuntu__: well, I'm not very familiary with windows12:26
ubuntu__PhinnFort:12:26
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PhinnFortLevi-: try whacking it around a bit12:27
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DagonXIt worked -- thanks12:27
Levi-lol12:27
ubuntu__taken      from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions12:27
Levi-Ill tinker with it for awhile12:27
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ubuntu__bad https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1635612:28
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PhinnFortworse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/112:32
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malaeumHello everyone, I am new to kubunut, just installed a few hours ago. Long time linux user though. I am having a bit of trouble getting my system setup. I'm learning the kubuntu way of doing thigns just fine, but I've hit a snag. I am trying to use the monitor configuration in kcontrol (or control-center) and after trying to setup my dual monitors failed, now I can no longer access that control-module.12:36
PhinnFortmalaeum: hit alt+f2, type in "krandrtray" and use the applet that appears in your tray12:36
PhinnFortmalaeum: I and the System Settings Monitor tool are not friends12:36
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malaeumPhinnFort: well that works, but it doesn't allow me to accomplish my goal. I want to setup a dual-monitor desktop, right now my monitors are just "cloning" and all krandr does is allow me to change resolution.12:38
PhinnFort!dualhead12:38
ubotuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama12:38
PhinnFort!xinerama12:38
ubotuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead12:38
malaeumthanks12:38
PhinnFortyw;)12:38
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malaeumIs there no way to fix that control module though?12:38
PhinnFortmalaeum: I'm not too terribly familiar with it12:39
PhinnFortmalaeum: you could try running systemsettings in a konsole and see what it spits out12:39
malaeumlots of stuffs, nothing that I saw that was terribly helpful though. I mean it could be to the proper person, but basically its missing a file with an obscure name.12:40
PhinnFortmalaeum: could you paste it somewhere?12:41
malaeumI've seen this occur and seen quite a few forum posts / bug reports found via google.12:41
PhinnFortrafb.net/paste maybe12:41
malaeumone sec, sure.12:41
intelikeykonsole salivates !       yuch!12:41
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PhinnFortrotfl12:41
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malaeumPhinnFort: http://rafb.net/p/DaiWqf38.html12:42
intelikeytrout!12:42
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intelikey\.\* with a \.\* trout!12:44
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intelikeyi guess it's the whole line.12:44
malaeumPhinnFort: you see anything relevant from that output?12:45
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PhinnFortmalaeum: it's missing a file, but I can't see which...12:46
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malaeum PhinnFort thank you python  =\12:47
PhinnFort;)12:47
PhinnFortmalaeum: maybe ask in #python for help12:47
malaeumbah, this has to be fixable, fricken KDE being a PITA.12:47
malaeumI'm just worried if I've encountered a bug this big on my first day with the OS...12:48
malaeumthe only solution google yielded  was outdated, reinstall a package that no loger exists12:48
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intelikeyPhinnFort i'm no programmer, but wouldn't line 43 be just as likely a variable not expanded properly.   thus no file name and therefore no file...  ?12:49
DatalancheI've never gotten dual head to work properly =/12:49
malaeumwell, hrmm, this post is from yesterday12:49
PhinnFortintelikey: could be, but I12:49
malaeumI have in every other OS, including other distros12:49
PhinnFort'm not awake enough to form a coherent thought12:49
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malaeumBeen a gentoo user for 5 years, finally getting sick of the breakage, so thought I'd give kubunutu a try.12:50
Datalancheati driver, fglrx driver, BigDisplay, xinerama, every tutorial on the wikis, nothing works (properly)12:50
intelikeymalaeum expect breakage here too.     hopefully not as much, nor as often; but it'll be here.12:51
DatalancheBut then again I'm not dualing two identify monitors, I need two very different displays at two pretty different resolutions12:51
malaeumDatalanche: thats unfortunate, I've actually had it working with multiple setups. fglrx using bigdesktop and just a framebuffer with xinerama12:51
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malaeumintelikey: thats fine, and I'd think the solutions are somewhat less obsufucated at times too.12:51
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DatalancheThe cloesest I got was getting the resolutions I needed, but it did this stange thing where the bottom left was on monitor 1, and the top with was on monitor 212:52
Datalanchetop right, rather12:52
malaeumintelikey: I dont think you'll have near as much due to the fact that this isn't source based and they have to try and account for millions of possible build environment setups.12:52
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malaeummaybe I'll just snag my old xorg.conf off the other drive and see what happens if I try and fire that up.12:52
DatalancheI've never really had Kubuntu totally break on me... but then again, I don't use backports12:52
intelikeyyes most "fixes" are rather simple and easy to find.      but at times more or less non-existant as well.12:53
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PhinnFort!install12:53
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate12:53
malaeumintelikey: my firephoto day here and I see that.12:53
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malaeumwhat the heck?12:53
malaeumI didnt type firephoto.12:53
malaeumodd.12:53
malaeumanyways, "my first day here and I see that"12:53
intelikeynick completion12:53
malaeumah, must have hit tab.12:54
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intelikeygood habit wrong place.12:54
intelikey:)12:54
malaeumyeah12:54
malaeumthe one thing that I do miss about gentoo is the terminal's coloriziation, but I am pretty sure thats just a bash hack that I can port on over12:55
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fisk0hello, my Ubuntu (which I've installed and is currently running KDE in) suddenly doesn't allow mounting FAT32 partitions any longer, instead I get an error saying: "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"12:55
intelikeyyep check the /[etc,~] /[profile,bash.*] 12:55
intelikey@ malaeum ^12:56
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carlosbuenas noches12:56
carloshay alguien que able espaol?12:56
Datalanche!es12:56
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.12:56
carlosnecesito algo de ayuda xD12:56
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lameranhi12:57
lameranwussup12:57
lameranliste12:57
lameranlisetn12:57
lameranlisten12:57
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intelikeyare you lisdexic ?12:58
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lameranwireless?12:58
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Datalanche!wireless12:58
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:58
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lameranOMFG!!12:59
ejw2076Is anyone familiar with DMRAID?  I'm trying to set up a raid0 array, but can't figure out how the partitions are going to work.12:59
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lameranlooking good12:59
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intelikeyt/s01:01
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lameranhi01:02
snowdonkeyHi.  How do I log onto the Internet using my ISP's username and password?01:02
lameranAccess point?01:02
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snowdonkeyTo use DSL I have to input a user name and password for my modem.  Not sure what you mean by access point Iameran01:03
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intelikeysnowdonkey      network manager ?01:03
makuseruhi, does anyone know where i can download folding@home for linux? the http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html site i guess got somthing mixed up, because under where it says linux, the downlaod is a .exe01:03
PhinnFort!folding@home01:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about folding@home - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:04
PhinnFort!folding01:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about folding - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:04
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snowdonkeyintelikey I'm using dapper so network manager not installed by default.  I'll give it a try01:04
lameranaccess point?01:05
intelikeyknetworkmanager - User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager01:05
intelikeyi thought it was default on the LTS...  </shrugs>01:06
lameranand then?01:06
tdnIf I run ktorrent --help-kde, I get the -nocrashhandler option. If I run ktorrent with -nocrashhandler, I still get the crash handler when ktorrent crashes. Why is that?01:06
lameranI don't see AP01:06
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lameranhello?01:10
lameranwhy am I not seeing AP (aka Access Point01:10
lameran)01:10
Daisuke_Idotdn: sounds more like a question for ktorrent's forum01:10
snowdonkey_Howdy.  Does anyone know where I can input my ISP's username and password to use DSL?  I installed network manager but a binary wasn't installed on my system.  prolly b/c I'm usnig dapper01:10
Daisuke_Idolike PPPoE?01:11
intelikeynever heard of it lameran01:11
tdnCan I add links to folders in the Quicklauncher?01:11
tdnDaisuke_Ido, hmm... Why is that? I think this is an option that is on almost every K application.01:12
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Daisuke_Idotdn: and if it's NOT on ktorrent, then it's a problem for ktorrents' developers01:12
lamerananyone with me?01:13
intelikeysnowdonkey_ "but a binary wasn't installed on my system" ???   did you not see the post i made on that?    <intelikey> knetworkmanager - User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager01:13
tdnDaisuke_Ido, ok.01:13
Daisuke_Idoyou just answered your own question :)01:13
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lameranO$ X and m$ XP work outta the box01:13
lameranwhat's wrong with Kutubntu01:13
lameran?01:13
Daisuke_Idothat's "OS X" and "MS"01:13
snowdonkey_intelikey ah, thanks.  I actually didn't see that.  :)01:13
Daisuke_Idobashing other OSes isn't what we do here01:13
Daisuke_Idoand kubuntu isn't the others, don't make the mistake of thinking it is.01:14
lameranI aint bashing01:14
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lameranjust pointing out the fact01:14
kanelinux != windows != mac01:14
Daisuke_Idolinux requires a little more work on your part.  stop and think about what's wrong.  i already asked if you were dealing with PPPoE01:14
Daisuke_Idono, that was snowdonkey01:14
kanemy nvidia graphics card doesnt work on my machine that i installed OSX on, thats an issue with OSx right?01:15
Daisuke_Idoyou have wireless problems01:15
Daisuke_Idowhat's your wireless chipset?01:15
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intelikeyooooh yuch  the order in that equation is sujestive and i don't like the sujestion.... @ kane   ;/01:15
lameranthZyDASis is my card01:15
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kanehehe...01:16
lameranZydas using zd1222 rw driver01:16
fisk0nobody got a solution for my fat32 mounting problem?01:16
Daisuke_Idointelikey: the order doesn't matter in that as there's no less than/greater than comparison going on01:16
lameraneth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"zd1211" <-- this ok?01:16
tdnHow do I add a link to a folder in the Quicklaunch panel?01:17
lameranoh my god01:17
fisk0by the way, how much work is it to make new themes/window decorations? I can't find any good ones01:17
lameranyo, anyone succesful with Zydas in setting it as AP?01:18
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intelikeyDaisuke_Ido yes i think i grasp the basic concept in the mathmatical sense  it's  the language sense that bothered me :)     normally people do follow a progression or regression when listing things consecutively like that...01:18
lameransharing ethernet01:18
lameranthankjs01:18
Daisuke_Idointelikey: true enough01:19
lameranso any ideas?01:19
intelikeyfisk0 right click and configure...  about all there is to it.01:19
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snowdonkey_intelikey Are you sure there is a network-manager for KDE in Dapper repositories?01:19
tdnHow do I set Dolphin as the default file browser instead of Konqi?01:20
lameranif I change the settings with IWconfig will KDE chewGUIm mess it up?01:20
lameranjust axing01:20
Daisuke_Idoasking.01:20
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lameranhow do I find out if the chipset supports AP to begin with01:20
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Daisuke_Idoi'm guessing maybe the manufacturer's site?01:20
intelikeysnowdonkey_ i am running dapper.   no special repos enabled just main/universe/multiverse  and i got that stright from apt-cache search network     so i think it's there.01:21
lameranna01:21
lameranthere's gotta be al inux solution01:21
lameranplease guys don't let me donw!!!01:21
lameranUbuntu reputation is at STAKE01:22
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lameranyou want ppl feel good about Kubtnub or not?01:22
Daisuke_Idolinux isn't a magic wand to be waved, no reputation is at stake except for yours as someone who apparently has never heard of google.01:22
usagi__Can anyone tell me why is it that I can load xgl on one account, but it crashes on the rest?01:22
Daisuke_Idousagi__: are you using an ati or nvidia card?01:23
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usagi__Daisuke_Ido: Yes. Ati 200m.01:23
intelikeylameran secondarily the reputation of *buntu is hardly our concern.01:23
lameranthe reputation of Linux is at STAKE!!!01:23
lamerankubuntu is representative of linux01:24
gemidjyhow can I tell dhcp not to overwrite my /etc/resolv.conf with its DNS's ?01:24
Daisuke_Idolameran: the reputation of trolls is at STAKE!!!01:24
Daisuke_Idoso quit f-ing trolling.01:24
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usagi__Trolls should grow up.01:24
tdnHow do I set Dolphin as the default file browser instead of Konqi? I cannot do it from Default Applications.01:24
fisk0intelikey: if that was the answer for my mounting problems it doesn't work, I've tried looking through what konqueror says about my harddrives in the Media tab, but it just doesn't work. And the partitions mounted fine and automatically just a week or two ago01:24
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knappIs there a way to unrar a file even if the other parts are not present? (ie just unrar part 1 of 8, for example)01:24
lameranoh thanks01:24
Daisuke_Idoif it weren't for your windows "give it to me NOW" mentality and the oh-so-lovely melodrama, you might have gotten somewhere with your query.01:25
Daisuke_Idoknapp: it should stop automatically, probably error out because there will be files it expects that aren't there...01:26
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knappDaisuke_ldo, it gives an error, but is there no way it can extract only that portion of the file?01:27
intelikeyfisk0 no that post to you was about making themes01:27
usagi__Daisuke_Ido: Do I have to do a driver/xgl install for each account?01:27
intelikeyfisk0 what is the disk issue ?01:27
fisk0ahh, okay01:27
Daisuke_Idousagi__: you shouldn't have to, no01:27
Daisuke_Idoi'm not particularly up on ati cards though :(01:28
Daisuke_Idoknapp: that's what i'm trying to figure out...  there should be a way to do it01:28
lameranyeah, actually linux survived its early ages without lusrs, just with a bunch of ultra-geeks01:28
usagi__Daisuke_Ido: hmmmmm Just strange it loads on the first ne and crashes on the rest.01:28
lameranquite surprising01:28
fisk0intelikey: I wrote this about 10 minutes ago: "my Ubuntu (which I've installed and is currently running KDE in) suddenly doesn't allow mounting FAT32 partitions any longer, instead I get an error saying: "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000""01:28
PhinnFortI can confirm that the Ubuntu CD's survives several minutes in +100 degrees  celsius01:28
PhinnFortin water01:29
PhinnFortaka. boiled01:29
lameranhey my wireless shows up as eth1, shouldn't be wlan0?01:29
fisk0and I'm not that used to Linux yet, only had the ubuntu installation for a month01:29
lameranand I think it can only work as AD HOC and base stattion01:29
lameranso no AP01:29
intelikeyfisk0 ok  pastebin the output of    cat /etc/fstab /proc/partitions      for me please01:29
Daisuke_Idoknapp: found the solution to your problem01:29
intelikey!paste | fisk001:30
ubotufisk0: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)01:30
Daisuke_Idounrar x -kb file01:30
Daisuke_Ido(kb = keep broken)01:30
lameranoh man, it seems that I will have to do my homework on this01:30
fisk0ok01:30
lameranI've never set up AD HOC with linux nor AP01:31
knapphmm01:31
lameranwhy NetworkAdmin doesn't have a buttin called AD HOC01:31
lamerandoes it go by another name?01:31
lameranalso no choice for choosing channels01:32
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lameranwait a minute, it SHOULD work as an AP because it works in m$$ XP01:32
knappdaisuke_ldo, thanks a bunch, that worked.01:33
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fisk0intelikey: It wont allow me to open /proc/partitions01:33
intelikeyfisk0 sudo cat /proc/partitions01:33
fisk0intelikey: here is fstab anyway http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23661/01:33
fisk0ok, intelikey01:34
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intelikeylameran if you can't get answers here you can try other channels.    ##linux ##linuxhelp #ubuntu  and others...01:34
Daisuke_Idoknapp: you're welcome :)01:34
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lameranintelikey: I see01:34
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lamerananyways Gentoo folks will tell me everything01:35
fisk0intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23662/01:35
lameransorry I apologize01:35
DagonXwhen trying to add programs the Adept Installer keeps giving saying there was an error commiting the changes. What is the solution?01:35
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bennyoi01:36
intelikeyfisk0 ok it's hda1 or hda2 in question ?01:36
bennyalguem do Brasil?01:36
Daisuke_IdoDagonX: go to a console and type 'sudo apt-get -f install'01:36
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fisk0intelikey: well, all of them actually, except for hda4 and hda7 which are linux partitions01:37
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fisk0intelikey: since about a week none of the fat partitions mount anymore01:37
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ZhayTeeHullo.01:38
lameranfisk0:  why not?01:38
intelikeyfisk0 ok;  in a konsole enter: sudo mkdir -p /media/hda[1-8]  ;sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda101:38
intelikeytell me what it says     but don't flood the channel if it's more than a line or two don't paste it here.01:38
fisk0intelikey: is [1-8]  part of the command I should enter, or does it just mean "any of them"? :)01:39
intelikeyyes just like i typed it01:39
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intelikeyooops.  no it didn't expand.01:40
ZhayTeeDoes KDE mount USB storage devices automatically?01:40
intelikeysorry01:40
BiovoreZhayTee: I dose here..01:40
Biovore(it)01:40
ZhayTeeIt isn't mounting my external USB hard drive automatically. ;_;01:40
ZhayTeeHmm...01:40
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intelikeyfisk0 just 1  not [1-8]    shell should expand that but doesn't01:40
DagonXDaisuke_Ido I tried that and get the following: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:40
DagonXE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:40
fisk0ok, intelikey01:40
intelikey!adeptcrashfix | DagonX01:41
ubotuDagonX: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 01:41
BiovoreZhayTee: try a dmsg in a konsole so see if the kernel even sees it.. IF it dose then something is messed with hal or udev01:41
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ZhayTeeYeah, the kernel sees it. And I can even mount it manually from the console.01:41
fisk0intelikey: that worked, it mounted fine and said nothing at all in the shell01:41
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intelikeyfisk0 ok i'm not sure what your error was then.   it's obviously something to do with the "automounting" processes of kde  (hal maybe)01:42
DagonXthanks01:42
fisk0intelikey: ok, thank you. I'll try loading gnome again, and see if it works there01:43
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intelikeyfisk0 the same can be done for any fs/partition   but note that you won't have write access without adding some args.    we can ammend your fstab to always mount your fat partitions if you like01:43
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DatalancheIn Konqueror, is there a way I can set it so that when I change view modes, the search bar on the right of the location bar doesn't go away? I don't see anything in the "Configure Toolbars" settings01:44
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tdnWhy can't anyone tell me how to add links to folders in the Quicklauncher? Haven't anyone tried this?01:44
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snowdonkey__intelikey thanks for you help, I got it to work.  I had to install pppoe and run pppoeconf to configure modem access01:45
fisk0intelikey: yes, thank you, I remember editing the fstab several years ago when I tried Suse, but I don't remember anything of what I was supposed to enter01:45
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intelikeyfisk0 a line like this in /etc/fstab without the quotes "/dev/hda1 /media/hda1 vfat defaults,dmask=000,fmask=111 0 0"    for that particular partition.01:46
intelikeysnowdonkey__ welcome.01:46
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Sannetdn: I didn't try it, but I would do it like this: create a launcher for konqueror, then add the folder path to the command so that it reads something like: konqueror /my/path/to/folder01:47
fisk0ok, intelikey, thank you01:47
intelikeyfisk0 i should caution about ntfs while supported the software the needs to be used is still beta, so excessive use may be a bad idea,   see the infonodes from ubotu  !ntfs !ntfs-3g01:48
intelikey!ntfs01:49
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:49
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intelikey!ntfs-3g01:49
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions01:49
tdnSanne, hmm... Ok. But I don't think my grandma would be able to do that. This should be possible to do via the UI.01:49
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fisk0ok intelikey, I got a ntfs partition, but there is nothing I need to access in linux on it, only the windows XP system files, every personal stuff is stored elsewhere (but I remember that gnome actually mounted it automatically too)01:49
Sannetdn: then I don't know, sorry. And don't underestimate grandmas ;)01:49
tdnSanne, hehe.01:50
fisk0intelikey: thank you a lot for your help01:50
dinlinux_hi, some know about DHT of ktorrent01:50
intelikeyfisk0 ok. any time.01:50
lameranhi01:50
lameranI cna't install irssi01:50
lameranit tells me NO RESULST01:50
lameranwtf??!!01:50
dinlinux_hi, somebody know about DHT of ktorrent?01:50
intelikeyapt-cache search irc01:50
intelikey@ lameran01:51
lameranah thanks01:51
intelikeydinlinux_ sorry !i01:51
Biovoredinlinux_: give it a port.. and make sure its open to the outside.. it works if everything is setup..01:51
lameranintelikey: and then?01:51
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intelikeylameran sudo apt-get install <the name selected from the list>01:52
Sannetdn: hm, when you drag a path url from the konqueror location bar to the quick launch bar, it actually gives to options how I could add it. Did you try that?01:52
lamerangot it01:52
intelikey!apt | lameran01:52
ubotulameran: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)01:52
tdnSanne, your approach with the link to konqi and command line args does not work. You cannot specify arguments for  apps in Quicklauncher. Only on the Panel.01:53
dinlinux_biovore: where can i check the port?01:53
lameranOMG gonna have to brake my balls now treying to figure this AP thingy o01:53
lameranout01:53
tdnSanne, I did not try that. Doing it now.01:54
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tdnSanne, it works like a charm. Thank you!01:54
Biovoredinlinux_: don't remember of the top of my head..  I don't use it that much.. I run a remote torrent system in a datacenter.. works better then on a homebased ISP.01:54
Sannetdn: awesome :) you're welcome.01:54
intelikey!language | lameran body parts are kind of private and,01:54
ubotulameran body parts are kind of private and,: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:54
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dinlinux_biovore: ty01:55
intelikeyLeeJunFan comming or going ?01:55
LeeJunFanintelikey: heh, coming.01:56
intelikeygood i'm on my way out and just looking for someone to hand the septor to on my way out.     (tag you're it)   :)01:56
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lameranOMG I run command irssi and it's not showing up01:57
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chenoxhola01:57
lameranoh my bad01:57
chenoxvaya irc con kubuntu01:57
intelikeyhave a great big day and a very healthy penguin.   and shalom be with you.01:57
chenoxjoooodddr01:58
chenoxk pasada01:58
chenoxalguien k hable espaol?01:58
Sanne!es | chenox01:58
ubotuchenox: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.01:58
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guillehi02:01
chenoxhola, como puedo acceder a canales espaoles?02:01
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guilleacceder caales espaoles de ubuntu?02:01
Sanne!es | chenox02:02
ubotuchenox: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.02:02
chenoxsip02:02
guilleHay tienes la respuesta02:02
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chenoxgracias guille02:03
DaskreechHeeeellllooooo good people02:03
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guillewhat was the name of the latest ati dirver for video card?02:04
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guillemp3 for amarok?02:06
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LjLtdn: browse to any folder in Konqueror, right click on a folder icon, click "Open With", select "Dolphin", and tick "Remember file association"02:07
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Daskreech!mp3 | guille02:07
ubotuguille: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:07
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DatalancheIn Konqueror, is there a way I can set it so that when I change view modes, the search bar on the right of the location bar doesn't go away? I don't see anything in the "Configure Toolbars" settings02:11
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DaskreechDatalanche: far as my knowledge takes me . No02:13
Solarusguys I am just going through the partitioning part of the install on 7.0402:13
SolarusI have XP installed on the first half of the disc and I don't want to mess it up02:14
Solaruswhich option should I choose?02:14
fildomanual02:14
pawitpManual is safest02:14
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Solarusdo I only need 2 mounts? / and swap?02:15
Daisuke_IdoSolarus: at minimum, yes02:15
Daisuke_Idobut you probably want something in /media for your windows drive02:15
Solarusmy storage will be on a seperate array so that is what I am after02:15
Daisuke_Idobut we'll worry about that later :)02:16
Solaruswhat is the suggested swap for a machine with 2gb mem?02:16
DaskreechSolarus: First time playing with Linux?02:16
Solarusnope02:16
Daisuke_Idoi would say 3gb02:16
Solarusfirst time on kubuntu02:16
DaskreechSolarus: anything bigger than 1 GB is probably wasted02:16
Daisuke_Idoi always heard 150% of ram02:16
SolarusI am a redhat/fedora guy usually02:16
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Solarusme too for redhat02:16
DaskreechDaisuke_Ido: basically up to 1GB of RAM02:16
Daisuke_Idobut that may have changed with large amounts of ram :)02:16
Solarus3gb was my guess02:17
Solarusyes I agree02:17
Daskreech after that ... unless you are running databases02:17
SolarusI am actually02:17
Solarusruning my sql but not large ones really02:17
DaskreechSolarus: How many connections?02:17
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Solarusjust for managing my media..  photo's, movies etc etc02:17
guillemp302:17
Daskreech!mp302:17
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:17
Solarusminimal02:17
DaskreechSolarus: I think that 1GB should be ok02:18
Solarusthanks02:18
pawitpSolarus: 1GB should be enouh02:18
Daskreechmost of that will sit in RAM02:18
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Solaruswill grub auto pickup my xp installation do you think?02:22
SlimeyPeteit should do02:22
DaskreechSolarus: yeah02:22
skarfaceif you're installing ubuntu after windows, it should02:22
Solaruswell it found my array too by the look of it :-)02:22
Solarusyes I have02:23
SolarusI am building a media pc for the lounge room with HD an what not02:23
SolarusI have installed both XP MCE and am installing this with linux mce on it in a bit02:24
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Solarushopefully this one is better but I will have both to be sure02:24
DaskreechWhich?02:24
Solaruslinux02:24
DaskreechWhich mce?02:24
Solarus:-)02:24
SolarusLinuxmce02:25
Daskreechthere are a dozen02:25
Solaruslinuxmce.com02:25
Daskreechoh ok02:25
DaskreechDuh :)02:25
Solarussorry02:25
Solarusthe other reason I wanted xp on it is for occasional games of Fifa 07 on the big screen telly :-)02:25
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DaskreechWhoot!02:26
Solarusthere doesn't really seem to be that many emulators good enough yet for linux to run DirectX games02:26
DaskreechCedega isn't bad02:26
SolarusI will check it out02:27
Daskreechnot quite as good an emulator as Windows though :)02:27
Solaruslol02:27
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SolarusIf I can get my office products and what not over I may just keep windows for games :-)02:27
timmayanyone know an IAX program besides iaxcomm, kiax and gnophone02:28
premier_how much memory should kubuntu take? I have 2GB of ram plus 2GB of swap, linux currently uses 1.931GB of ram and 33MB of swap02:28
Daskreech!find iax02:28
ubotuFound: iaxcomm, iaxmodem, kiax, libiax-dev, libiax0 (and 1 others)02:28
premier_I have 143MB free02:28
timmaybah02:28
timmaywas affraid of that02:28
Daskreechtimmay: No? :-)02:28
timmaynope :(02:29
Daskreechtimmay: do a search on google.com/linux02:29
timmayokie thanks02:29
Daskreechpremier_: all of it02:29
premier_Daskreech: so, its using all the availibale space as cache or whatever?02:29
Daskreechpremier_: yeah02:30
pawitpI have 1Gig of ram with no swap used02:30
Daskreechpremier_: Didn't you buy the RAM to be used? :-)02:30
premier_Daskreech: what makes linux run smoothly?  I mean, how can I make sure that nothing is slowing it down?02:30
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premier_Daskreech: I don't think my computer is running as fast as it should be02:30
Daskreechpremier_:  It's not running smoothly?02:31
premier_umm... idk02:31
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premier_Its a bit slowing in booting... by the time it gets to the desktop, it still grinds for a minute or two before its done loading all my stuff02:32
Daskreechpremier_: ahh you have sessions on02:32
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DaskreechIf you like you can turn that off02:32
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BB22any good torrent site for movies?02:32
DaskreechBB22: Wrong chan02:33
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BB22Daskreech whats the right channel?02:33
premier_Daskreech: well, sort kinda... I don't have saved sessions, rather I saved a session a while ago that has a few primary applications... but the only heavy one there is amarok02:33
premier_oh, and kontact02:33
DaskreechBB22: not this one02:33
DatalancheBB22: deepdiscount.com02:33
DatalancheAll the movies you'd ever want ;)02:33
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Daskreechpremier_: yeah they both run pretty deep databases02:34
BB22Datalanche not opening02:36
premier_hi, I'm trying to get beryl working... I stumped the guys at #beryl02:36
Daskreech!beryl02:36
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects02:36
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SolarusI am getting so hacked off with vista02:37
DaskreechSolarus: great operating system02:37
Daskreechin about 2-3 years02:38
premier_Solarus: "hacked off"?02:38
hendaus!vcdgear02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vcdgear - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
Daskreechat which point it will be obviously outdated  :-(02:38
hendausanyone helps me with vcdgear for kubuntu? thanx02:38
Daskreechhendaus: what's vcdgear?02:38
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Solarusyeah02:38
premier_Daskreech: in 2-3, linux will be user freindly enough for most people to use... vista will be pretty useless by then02:38
Daskreechpremier_: yeah yeah :) that's what they all say :)02:39
hendausDaskreech:  vcdgear a convertor02:39
SolarusI am sure they run swearing monitors in here so hacked of is about as bad as I will get for now :-)02:39
Daskreechhendaus: from puppy dogs to kittens?02:39
premier_Solarus: actually, no, but you shouldn't swear02:39
Daskreech!language02:39
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:39
Solarusll02:39
Solarusthere we go! ;-)02:39
Solarushere we go on the reboot02:40
Solaruslets see if I get the option for xp02:40
premier_Daskreech: vcdgear allows you to convert from m/s to m/s^202:40
Daskreech!info vcdgear02:40
ubotuPackage vcdgear does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas02:40
DaskreechMight not have a ubuntu package02:41
premier_whats the conversion factor again?  1 m/s = 10.7 m/s^202:41
DaskreechCheck to see if there is a debian package02:41
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Solarusyes I did02:41
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chip273hello02:41
chip273any idea how I can get my soundcard settings right with an G732 notebook ?02:42
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Solarusfailed to boot02:43
Solarussomething came up in the list as failed and it rebooted02:43
Solarussecond time around however, it seems fine ??02:44
Solarusseems a bit weird?02:44
Daskreech!laptop02:45
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org02:45
Daskreechchip273: ^^^02:46
chip273Thx will look at there but my problem ist that I get choppy sound with any linux distro, was not like that prior to 2004 .. What has changed ?02:47
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Daskreechchip273: Drivers maybe?02:49
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chip273Yea, but how do I get it to work back. It's a general Problem I have with linux, no good guides, or they are way too outdated.02:50
Daskreechcrimsun: hello?02:50
crimsunDaskreech: ?02:50
pawitpchip723: make sure you're not setting the sound at 8bit02:50
Daskreechcrimsun: sorry to bother chip273 was having some issues with his sound. He says that it chops02:51
chip273Look, that's exactly my problem, I have no idea how to do that !02:51
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altghie all02:51
altgis there anybody inthere02:52
Daisuke_Idojust nod if you can hear me02:52
crimsunchip273: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' in a Konsole "chop"?02:52
chip273crimsun : yep, asound any wav file does also chop02:53
chip273*aplay i mean.02:53
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crimsunchip273: what about ``aplay -Dplughw:0 /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' ?02:54
chip273crimsun: that makes a Device or resource busy.02:57
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chip273crimsun : aplay: main:550 Error opening audiodevice : Device or resource busy . to be exact.02:58
crimsunchip273: so stop arts and all other audio apps before you try that command.02:58
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WhopperHow do I add this key: e verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D508802:59
iswmJust got kubuntu installed on my thinkpad x60s, but knetworkmanager decided it wanted to stop showing me wireless networks... Anyone have an idea of what might be going on?02:59
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Daskreechiswm: Did you turn wireless off?03:00
chip273crimsun: how do I stop arts ?03:00
iswmDaskreech, no, it's on03:00
crimsunchip273: use kcontrol or KDE System Settings03:01
Daskreechiswm: physically and in software?03:01
trojjerokay I've read the Wiki and it says that you shouldn't really upgrade from Ubu 6.06 to 7.04, without first going via 6.10... has anyone done it?03:01
trojjer(hi room)03:01
Daskreechtrojjer: the wiki is right03:01
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iswmDaskreech, yes03:01
trojjerdamnit03:01
trojjerI've had the LTS CD sitting around for months03:02
Daskreech:-)03:02
trojjeronly just decided to install03:02
trojjerrecently03:02
Daskreechtrojjer: alternate or Live?03:02
trojjerhad to download tons of packages03:02
trojjerUbuntu Live, Dapper03:02
defconis there a script I can get to mount and set disks to automount in fstab?03:02
trojjer(I'm in #Kubuntu because it's my first time using Konversation, lol... I happen to be on GNOME, although I installed KDE and it's my default login)03:03
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Daskreechtrojjer: Probably faster to get the Feisty cd then :)03:03
Daskreechdefcon: fstab is the script to get disks to automount03:04
trojjer(I'm trying to decide which one to use most, but so far none of them are much faster than the bloody Live CD, damnit... it was good that I finally got around to cleaning my old HD up, but I'm a Windows convert who got sick of reading up on GNU/Linux stuff without experiencing it much first hand)03:04
chip273crimsun: Now it works with -Dplughw:0 but it is still choppy although less choppy.03:04
defconDaskreech, is there something that automates fstab because I dont understand it03:04
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crimsunchip273: pastebin your `/proc/interrupts'03:04
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cntbon kubuntu livedvd what would be the resue menu to correct grub install ?03:05
trojjer(Basic specs: Athlon XP 2000 w/512MB RAM, 40GB hard drive... the RAM usage is okay apart from Firefox, arghhh)03:05
Daskreechdefcon: You can try alt+space -> system -> (press enter) -> Advanced -> Disks and file systems03:05
cntbon kubuntu livedvd what would be the rescue menu to correct grub install ? edgy and dapper used to have a resue line in menu03:05
defconalt-space doesnt work Daskreech03:06
cntbon kubuntu livedvd what would be the rescue menu to correct grub install ? edgy and dapper used to have a rescue line in menu03:06
Daskreech!grub | cntb03:06
ubotucntb: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:06
Daskreechdefcon: in KDE?03:06
trojjer(I daresn't take XP off my laptop yet lol... might do a dualboot at some point though... it's the PC I use the most)03:06
defcongnome03:06
Daskreechdefcon: ah03:06
defconwhats the app I can run it03:06
defconi have kde installed03:06
Daskreechdefcon: umm not sure what the Gnome one is03:06
Daskreechdefcon: SHouldn't they turn up in Natilus?03:07
defcondont know03:07
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Daskreechtrojjer: I'm sorry what's the question?03:07
cntbDaskreech, tyvm but... those place teach to replace MBR.and this is not permissible with vista03:07
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trojjerthanks for the offer03:08
cntbDaskreech, unless articles are updated to include vista dual boot solution03:08
Daskreechcntb: Hmm hold on03:08
Daskreechcntb: http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first03:09
defconDaskreech, how do I get a drive uuid03:09
defcon?03:09
trojjerfirstly, why's both KDE and GNOME so slooow to respond? I have 512MB RAM, which isn't usually a problem apart from when I get overly ambitious with Firefox... processor usage is usually down too03:09
trojjerIt seems that GNOME uses nearly twice as much idle RAM too, than KDE03:09
Daskreechdefcon: I'm not sure I think that it's from the Label...03:09
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Daskreechtrojjer: Yeah KDE uses more RAM on startup but Gnome will rapidly race past that if you open a lot of apps or have firefox open for a good browsing session03:10
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chip273crimsun: sorry for my speed, is on another machine : here http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/11317/03:10
trojjeroh, and can anyone help me with the Update Manager? It keeps telling me about updates that are available, but from the moment I login it tells me that another pack-man is running in the background03:11
trojjer(this applies for both GNOME and KDE)03:11
Daskreech!adept crash fix | trojjer03:12
ubotutrojjer: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 03:12
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trojjer(ever since I downloaded a load of things in Synaptic, and let the Update Manager go ahead and fetch 200+ files...)03:12
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trojjer(or MB whatever lol)03:12
trojjerahh might be that03:12
trojjerwhich solution is more likely? ;)03:12
trojjerthe manual unlock thing?03:12
Daskreechtrojjer: yeah03:12
trojjerI could try the simple crash fix line?03:13
trojjer(btw is this fixed yet? You'd think the newer releases would improve on this...)03:13
chip273crimsun: You still there ?03:14
trojjer(I remember trying to cancel it because it was downloading so much at once, but it crashed at that point)03:14
Daskreechtrojjer: crashes can happen and if they do the database gets locked03:14
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Daskreechit'll happen03:14
trojjergotcha03:14
trojjerso the easiet thing to try is your line?03:14
trojjer(no GUI solution?)03:15
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Daskreechtrojjer: It's the fastest solution :)03:15
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trojjer(I'm not afraid of the terminal too much but it's quite daunting lol)03:15
trojjerhah03:15
DaskreechWhy would  the terminal daunt you? :-)03:16
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trojjerAlt+F2 should be okay? (Oh and is there anyway I can reduce the sheer amount of nagging I get for the password? I know that it's for my own good, but how can people criticise Vista for the nag screens when this seems worse?)03:16
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Daskreechcntb: or http://apcmag.com/5045/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux03:17
Daskreechtrojjer: yeah You can shut them off. they are for your own good though :)03:17
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trojjerlol03:17
trojjerit's fucking annoying though03:18
dogatemycomputertrojjer: they are easy to shutoff but i'm not sure you would want too.  Once you get your basic setup done.. you'll rarely ever see the prompt again.03:18
trojjerI want to change the time in peace!03:18
trojjerhmm03:18
trojjerseriously?03:18
fxchHello, everyone!03:18
dogatemycomputertrojjer: if you want to turn them off then do a google for visudo..03:18
Daskreech!langauge | trojjer03:18
ubotutrojjer: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:18
trojjerI got so sick of my pwd that I changed it to a weak 4 letter one, which needs changed pronto... although I added 2 numbers at the end, and it's a bit better03:18
dogatemycomputer!sudoers03:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:18
dogatemycomputer!visudo03:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about visudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:18
Daskreechheehee03:19
pawitp!sudo03:19
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:19
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trojjerI know what sudo is03:19
DaskreechSolarus: that Looks like a fun ride i wanna get on :)03:19
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trojjerbut the nags for the pwd is annoying lol03:20
kanetrojjer: everyone likes good passwords.03:20
fxchEnglish?03:20
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Daskreechfxch: yes03:20
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Daskreechtrojjer: how many other people have an account?03:21
dogatemycomputertrojjer:  basically.. if you are comfortable enough.. "sudo visudo" then add "trojjer ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" to the last line in the file.03:21
Daskreechdogatemycomputer: noooooo03:21
dogatemycomputerlol03:21
dogatemycomputerno? ;)03:21
trojjerah yes, patents... I downloaded VLC, but I'm still on entirely up to date with the non-free codecs lol03:21
Daskreechdogatemycomputer: his account needs that :)03:21
Daskreechnot all accounts03:21
dogatemycomputerhahahahaha03:21
kanei find it unfortunate VI was the app chose to edit the sudors program.03:21
fildoany here got a pcmcia pixelview tvtuner card working on kubuntu ?03:21
Daskreechdangerous dog :)03:21
dogatemycomputerhahahahah.. dangerous huh? ..03:21
trojjerfuck the patents, if I can't watch a video otherwise, or a LEGALLY PURCHASED DVD, I'll download them thanks03:21
cntbok Daskreech easyBCD will be my solution but first I implanted an kubuntu on sda7 and need to do another grub install and an ubuntu.bin file , at least that is what I did in edgy and dapper what liveCD will let me do it supergrub fails edgy livecd fails dvd7.04 liveDVD has no rescue option and I need to chroot03:21
Daskreechkane: it's not nano is03:21
dogatemycomputeryou know.. I had to learn the hard way too..03:22
trojjerjust me03:22
trojjertrojjer03:22
Daskreechtrojjer: just warned you about that03:22
trojjerlol03:22
trojjerahhh03:22
trojjersounds good03:22
kanehuh, it sure is...03:22
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kanemust have been another distro that rocked vi.03:23
dogatemycomputertrojjer: if you add that to the last line, logout, then log back in.. you *shouldn't* see the prompt anymore.  If you screw up the file then it will alert you before you save and exit.  Pay attention to any warnings you receive because once you screw up the file then alot of stuff stops working.03:23
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Daskreechand i hope you have a live cd03:23
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=== trojjer thinks that sounds like a safer solution than adding his user account to ALL the groups... *gulp*
kanei actually normally set up the root account to have a password for just that sort of occassion.03:24
Daskreechtrojjer: that's not what that line does03:24
dogatemycomputertrojjer: honestly though.. why would you ever want to use Windows?  LInux is harder to setup but once you understand how it works..  there is NOTHING you can't do in linux that you can't do better in Windows.  (with the exception of some video games)..03:24
kaneor, atleast a password that i know.03:24
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chip273Can anyone help e with this sound problem ?03:24
fxch?03:24
kanedogatemycomputer: there are a couple apps on windows that ties people to it.03:24
dogatemycomputerkane: such as?03:24
kanephotoshop03:25
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dogatemycomputerkane: gimp03:25
trojjerrealises*03:25
DaskreechI guess crimsun stepped out?03:25
trojjerlol pah sick of Photoshop03:25
trojjerI was okay with PSP03:25
chip273seems so .03:25
soulridertrojjer: linux is awesome03:25
Daskreechfxch: Yes?03:25
trojjerfor whatever I wanted to do03:25
kanedoesnt have proper cmyk support,03:25
trojjerGIMP seems good but I need to learn the menus03:25
chip273I still have choppy sound .03:25
soulridertrojjer: i agree witht he philosophy behind open source, but mostly, i want a fast stable system that just works!03:25
dogatemycomputertrojjer: plus.. would you meet such interesting and safety-concious people in a Windows forum? ;)  hahahahaha..03:25
Daskreechsoulrider: mac :)03:26
fxchCan I talk anything about Edubuntu?03:26
Daskreechor amiga03:26
trojjerlol03:26
soulriderDaskreech: linux does the job for me03:26
Daskreechfxch: I would suspect so03:26
soulriderfree, fast and stable03:26
dogatemycomputertrojjer: be patient..  as I said.. I was frustrated at first too but now I avoid windows like the plauge.  I like the feverish pace at which linux improves too.03:26
soulriderand the philosophy behinf open source is wonderful03:26
kaneive only had linux for a good few yers.03:26
chip273well IMHO linux is not stable .03:26
soulriderreally?03:26
kanechip273: define "stable"03:27
dogatemycomputerchip273: define stable03:27
dogatemycomputerhahahhaa03:27
chip273nothing works .03:27
kaneheh.03:27
kanethats not stable chip.03:27
soulridermy computer has been on for over 12 days now.. and its still working like charm03:27
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trojjerI hate iPods, but MacOSX looks okay... too much eye candy I think though... I like the approach that GoboLinux has took, which uses symlinks to do something like an OSX dir-tree03:27
chip273ok then ist incompatible as ...03:27
Daskreechchip273: :-)03:27
trojjerlol03:27
soulridertrojjer: at first linux can be a bit different and at times frustrating, but youll start to love it in no time03:27
kanechip273: its a mixed bag, just like everyt thing else.03:27
cntbI get segmentation fault while trying to chroot03:28
chip273I'm on it for a week now and I can't get anything to work..03:28
Daskreechchip273: can You join #alsa ?03:28
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cntbis my kubuntu gost image faulty ?03:28
cntbis my kubuntu ghost image faulty ?03:28
trojjerI'm trying to learn to love "GLinux", lol03:28
kanechip273: we are happy to help if you have any specific issue.03:28
cntbI get segmentation fault while trying to chroot03:28
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soulridertrojjer: ive been using linux for a year, befire that i used DOS and windows for around 13 years03:28
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Daskreechcntb: where are you chrooting to?03:28
soulrideri cant believe i didnt switch before03:28
chip273kane sound , network, wlan, ....03:29
trojjer'k03:29
trojjerit's been crashing a bit oddly though03:29
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trojjerand the general GNOME/KDE is quite sluggish at times03:29
soulridertrojjer: really? is it the kernel crashing or X ?03:29
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trojjersick of it killing Firefox without a warning too, damn RAM hog03:29
trojjerno panics AFAIK03:29
trojjerhowever, I get the odd random hang03:30
trojjercursor not movign03:30
trojjermoving*03:30
soulridertrojjer: in a year of linux, i never got a kernel panic03:30
soulridertrojjer: tried ctrl alt backspace ?03:30
trojjerI think I can bring up a console with Alt+F1 but I'm not sure03:30
Daskreechchip273: well network seems to work you are talking to us :)03:30
Daskreechchip273: oh wait. .. different machine huh?03:30
soulriderctrl alt f103:30
chip273yep .03:30
soulriderDaskreech: LOL03:30
pawitpmake sure you know ctrl alt f703:30
chip273well network works if I do not puch the notebook around. at home it is fine . ..03:31
Daskreechyou have a DHCP at home?03:31
chip273yes I do .03:31
Daskreechand DHCP elsewhere doesn't work?03:32
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kanei'm sure he is talking about wireless.03:32
Daskreechah03:32
chip273Wlan always hangs on 28 % and does not continue to connect.03:32
kanewell wireless sucks.03:32
DaskreechProbably needs a key03:32
DaskreechI've almost never gotten it not to work03:33
kaneor its  MAC filtered03:33
DaskreechBut then I've only tried three times :(03:33
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chip273as it is my network I think that I have the right key for WEP TKIP03:33
kanedid it ever prompt for it?03:33
Daskreechare you using a passphrase or a key?03:33
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chip273as for wired network I have DHCP at home but VPN anywhere else .03:34
chip273Is there a difference in WPAyou are talking about WEP .03:34
DaskreechWEP sorry03:34
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trojjerhello again03:34
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chip273well that are less problematic problems I first want my sound to work .03:34
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Daskreechtrojjer: it's alt+Ctrl+F1 and alt+Ctrl+F7 to get back GUI03:35
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=== trojjer feels stupid for trying CTRL+ALT+Bksp right there... didn't know it would make the Panel exit
=== trojjer had to make a Launcher for Konv
Daskreechtrojjer: are you in Gnome?03:35
trojjeryes03:35
KewlieHello03:35
trojjergot KDE, trying to pick one lol03:36
DaskreechKDE!!! :)03:36
=== Daskreech coughs
=== trojjer notices that both seem sluggish
=== trojjer at times
kanewell my sound has always "just worked" and thats pretty normal, are you sure its not muted?03:36
=== trojjer turned off all the KDE effects
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=== trojjer also wonders if the nVidia GeForce 4 driver listed in the config prog is actually the "latest" one, or the nVidia one at all...
KewlieThis maybe a very old question but I am still new to Linux in general, does the init 3 (shutdown xserver) command even work in Kubuntu? or am I doing something wrong?03:37
=== trojjer can't get any OpenGL progs to work at a decent speed
Daskreechkane: his sound works just gets choppy03:38
kaneaaahhh03:38
DaskreechKewlie: that's a RedHat thing03:38
=== trojjer no Celestia fro trojjer yet
DaskreechKewlie: X is only shut down for init 1 in Debian03:38
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DaskreechKewlie: Why do you want X done?03:38
DaskreechDown?03:38
Daskreech!nvidia | trojjer03:39
ubotutrojjer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:39
Kewlieto install nvidia drivers03:39
trojjerthanks for the tip about CTRL+ALT+F1-7, Dask, but I knew that already and C+A+Bk made the Panel exit03:39
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kanechip273: open the control panel, go to the sound options and make sure that the checkbox to run with real time prority is selected03:39
KewlieI cant find a documented alternative way03:39
trojjerso I have to do it myself? Thought so, as it's binary03:39
trojjerdamnit they should hurry up and open source03:39
trojjerJava's done it ffs, now we're counting on Flash03:40
trojjerdoubtful though03:40
kaneKewlie: if you can you should stick to the drivers that apt-get can install for you.03:40
Daskreechtrojjer: try Alt+Ctrl+Esc :-)03:40
trojjerand C+A+Esc does?03:40
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KewlieI am just upset I paid 400+ dollars on Vista when this OS is better >_<03:40
=== trojjer is not trying
chip273@kane : that did not help, as well as maxing out the buffers or min it out did not help.03:40
DaskreechKewlie: What are you trying to do?03:40
Kewlieapt get? I'll look into that thx03:40
knappI am trying to connect from one Kubuntu machine to another. I go to access the other and it asks for a user/pass. I have tried every combination I can think of. Where do I find this login info?03:40
Kewliejust install my video card03:41
Daskreechtrojjer: open xkill :)03:41
kanechip273: try disabling the sound server all together.03:41
knappI'm using samba03:41
Daskreechknapp: aaaahhhh03:41
kanesound should still works, prolly just one app at a time.03:41
Daskreechknapp: use sshd03:41
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kaneKewlie: are you using nvidia?03:41
KewlieI would like to use Beryl if my card would support it03:41
Kewlieyes03:41
chip273kane: still choppy tried that already.03:41
DaskreechKewlie: What video card is it?03:41
Daskreech!nvidia | Kewlie03:41
ubotuKewlie: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:41
trojjerah yes, the pirate thing03:41
kaneits just apt-get install nvidia-glx03:41
trojjerArrrrr03:41
Kewliepcix geforce 7300 gt03:42
Daskreech!ssh03:42
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/03:42
trojjerhah it won't work in GNOME03:42
Kewliethats it?03:42
trojjerremember using it in KDE03:42
DaskreechKewlie: and you can ask for beryl help in #ubuntu-effects03:42
Kewliethx03:42
kanechip273: intresting, does it do it in all apps?03:42
Kewlieapt-get install nvidia-glx, lol that's it?03:42
Kewliedoh03:42
DaskreechKewlie: and if you are in KDE get ready for kwin in KDE403:42
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DaskreechIt's going to be sweet03:42
kanesudo apt-get install nvidia-glx03:43
kaneshould do it.03:43
Kewliegotcha03:43
Daskreechknapp: install ssh03:43
kanedownloads it and installs it.03:43
kanedont even have to reboot, just logout and back in.03:43
trojjerhah, Konq's my default browser in GNOME even... I was using Firefox before03:43
Kewliealt/ctrl backspace?03:43
chip273kane: trying aplay from the console mainly, with different sound files .03:43
kaneuhg, i hate konqi as a browser03:43
trojjer(is Firefox 2 "supported" yet?)03:44
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trojjer(sick of 1.5)03:44
dogatemycomputersudo apt-get install firefox :)03:44
Daskreechtrojjer: yes just not in LTS03:44
Kewliebrb I am going to install this bad boy03:44
Daskreechtrojjer:  and it eats more memory03:44
kanechip273: try using something like amarok.03:44
Daskreechdogatemycomputer: he's in LTS03:44
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=== trojjer Firefox can't really hog any more RAM surely??
=== trojjer might as well just get Opera for this old desktop
Daskreech!opera03:45
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser03:45
kanei thought firefox2 was supposed to use less.03:45
=== trojjer misses extensions though
trojjerlol03:45
trojjerit seems to use more, but it lets you reload the tabs if it crashes ;)03:46
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trojjerwhich is hell if you had 200+ tabs open03:46
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chip273kane: amarok just did crash03:46
FireHazard17you kidding me the most i have ever had is 3503:46
kanesounds like you are having some intresting issues with your soundcard drivers.  Which is unfortunate.03:46
Kewliewhat would this error mean? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".03:47
Daskreechchip273: are you still getting help in #alsa ?03:47
FireHazard17and that was once mostly its about 5 tabs open a once03:47
chip273trying to .03:47
kanechip273: yes that might be the best place, sorry buddy.03:47
Daskreechkane: you may want to concentrate on getting his networking up :)03:47
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trojjerthat's the trouble with certain open source progs... at least it's usually only the userspace stuff that crashes eh? And only if it's a daily build or something... it seems03:47
trojjerthen again I'm on LTS and I get annoyed when things just hang03:47
trojjerlol03:47
kaneDaskreech: said he didnt care about that : )03:48
trojjerseriously, I start middle clicking links and it rises to over 100 easily03:48
Daskreechha03:48
trojjerI never get to read them all03:48
trojjera fresh start is nice sometimes03:48
Daskreechwell he said nothing worked I'm guessing there must be something else we can help with03:48
kanei never get that many, but a i get a good bit.03:48
kanei presume, i just hate to see people run back to windows and say "linux sucks" when its really a hardware issue.03:49
trojjeryeah03:49
trojjerbet you do03:49
kanei mean it is a linux issue as well.03:49
trojjerI'm trying to keep an open mind03:49
kanesound and networking normally "just work"03:49
Daskreechyeah having some driver help would be nice03:50
DaskreechCourse Linux does work on most hardware which is more than I can say about Vista03:50
kanewell its just that all those drivers pretty much come built into the kernal.03:50
trojjerI hope it's gonna be simple to actually start using my separate /home partition, btw... I only set aside 5GB for /root and it's filling up with all the packages etc by default... nothing in /home damnit, which is 10GB03:50
kaneso if you want to install newer ones, its often a "build a kernel module" deal.03:50
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kanetrojjer: it should be very simple.03:51
=== trojjer wishes it didn't take ages to boot up
kanetrojjer: just save all your movies/music/whatever on /home.03:51
=== trojjer upgraded the kernel image
knappdaskreech can you give me an example of how to use ssh to connect to a lan computer?03:51
=== trojjer but still has to look at the Ubuntu/Kubuntu splash for nearly a minute
FireHazard17trojjer: get a newer computer!03:51
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kanetrojjer: just dont turn it off.03:52
Daskreechknapp: want a purty GUI way or the nice fast CLI way? :)03:52
trojjerlol03:52
kanehe wants the CLI way, you gotta deal with the command line anyway if you are sshing into something.03:52
trojjerfirst off03:52
knappcli plz03:52
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DaskreechCLI way is ssh user@computerorip03:52
FireHazard17yet your on irc03:52
Daskreechtrojjer:  you can tweak that sucker out :003:53
=== trojjer which is "decent enough" for most optimised Linux distros, apparently, with a 1.67GHz Athlon and 512MB
Daskreechkane: no you don't03:53
Daskreechknapp: the user is on the remote computer03:53
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FireHazard17trojjer: not bad i dont see why its so slow03:53
=== trojjer would also like to avoid running up an electricity bill needlessly
knappname or service not known03:54
kaneDaskreech: pretty much you do.  Unless you like X-foward or something but really.03:54
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kanessh is designed to be on the CLI03:54
dwbelltrojjer: if you have intigrated graphics that might be a little low on the ram.03:54
knappnevermind03:54
Daskreechknapp: which computer did you install ssh on?03:54
knappI got it03:54
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kanesecure SHELL03:54
Daskreechkane: learn about fish03:54
knappdaskreech can I transfer files using this?03:54
trojjernope, Geforce 4 MX440l, 64MB VRAM03:55
Daskreechknapp: sure03:55
kanefish is more like SFTP than ssh really03:55
Daskreechif you press ctrl-d to logout03:55
dwbelltrojjer: I have a 1.83 Ghz athlon with 1 gb of ram and It's under 40 sec to login screen.03:55
trojjerneed binary drivers03:55
Daskreechyou can scp a file or sftp one03:55
Daskreechsftp works just like ftp03:55
fisk0is there any way to disable those giant tooltips which you get when hovering over icons on the main panel? I've tried disabling tooltips, but that didn't do anything03:55
knapphow do I do that?03:55
Daskreechshouldn't be hard to figure out03:55
knapphrm03:55
Daskreechscp works like this03:55
trojjerlol maybe mine is "under 40s" too, I'm just forgetting what this old beast is like compared to my P4 3.06GHz laptop w/1GB03:55
Daskreechscp sourcefile targettocopyto03:56
Daskreechknapp: one of those is remote03:56
=== trojjer also hates those annoying KDEtips
Daskreechknapp: does that make sense?03:56
kanefisk0: you right click on the taskbar configure taskbar...03:56
FireHazard17i have a 2.6 with a gig of ram and a nvidia geforce 7600 GS OC with 512 Mb of vram03:56
kaneconfigure panel i mean03:56
Daskreechfisk0: Yeah I forget how:( it's in the panel config03:56
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trojjerwow lol03:56
kaneits under apperence.03:56
FireHazard17wow lol what?03:57
Daskreechknapp: does what I just said make sense ?03:57
trojjerFire: you one of those users with the HUUUUGE resolution screenshots? Damn03:57
FireHazard17nope 1024x76803:57
trojjerlol03:57
knappdaskreech so its user@host/directory/to/file... ?03:57
trojjerI'm on 1280 because Ubuntu set it as default03:57
FireHazard17its all my cheap lcd supports03:57
FireHazard17couldnt go higher if i tried03:57
trojjerI've only briefly used 1280 with Windows on this desktop03:57
Daskreechknapp: ok the remote server is user@host:path/to/file03:57
trojjerall the fonts are tiny now though by default grrr03:58
Daskreechknapp: notice the colon that's important03:58
fisk0kane: I've been through the whole "Configure panel" window, can't find it anywhere03:58
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Daskreechknapp: if you put nothing after the colon it means ~03:58
premier_hello, this is a beryl problem but the beryl guys couldn't fix it... basically, beryl won't start unless I kill kdesktop... It keeps complaining about a window manager already running on my screen03:58
Daskreechhi premier_03:58
premier_Daskreech: that was fast03:58
kanefisk0: its the "enable mouse over effects"03:58
Daskreechpremier_: beryl --replace03:58
Daisuke_IdoWOO!03:58
Daisuke_Idoi mean03:58
premier_do you have a macro or something03:58
fisk0ahh03:58
premier_Daskreech: that didn't work03:58
=== trojjer doesn't like CRTs much, but it supports 1280 x 1024 at least, unlike his 17" laptop
Daisuke_Ido*ahem* this is quite lovely03:58
knappdaskreech ok I think I can handle it from here, thanks dood03:59
fisk0kane: thank you, I thought that was the icon highlight thing03:59
Daisuke_Idofinally, amarok has mtp support03:59
kanefisk0: yeah its a dumb name03:59
premier_trojjer: a 17" laptop with less that 1280x1024?  thats painful03:59
Daskreechknapp: so scp MyResume boss@coolcompanyihacked.com: would put it on a useful person's home folder03:59
Daisuke_Idoi suppose it's had it for a while, but the default that ships with kubuntu has it now03:59
kanepremier_:03:59
kaneer03:59
kanepremier_: you want the berly --replace03:59
kanethat should do it.03:59
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trojjeryeah03:59
fisk0great, no more urge to commit suicide when I have to do anything in the KDE menu :)03:59
Daskreechknapp: for future you can type fish://user@host in konqui's bar to do it as a GUI04:00
FireHazard17i want to get a geforce 8800 ultra OC04:00
trojjerstupid Toshiba Satellite A60 from 200404:00
knappfish?04:00
FireHazard17OC means overclocked04:00
Daskreechknapp: yeah. Try it once for giggle04:00
trojjerwish my dad had spent 1000 on a desktop, maybe, or another laptop04:00
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Daisuke_IdoFireHazard17: and what's the purpose of that in a linux system?04:00
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FireHazard17but they are aboot 995 usd04:00
FireHazard17i dual boot04:00
Daisuke_Idoah04:00
kaneDaisuke_Ido: linux users play games.04:00
kaneunder linux even.04:00
trojjerlol04:01
Daskreech!gmaes04:01
trojjerindeed04:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gmaes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:01
Daskreech!Wow04:01
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org04:01
trojjera few04:01
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Daisuke_Idokane: show me one game under linux that requires that much power.04:01
Daskreechtrojjer: Loads04:01
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trojjerlol loads of free ones04:01
FireHazard17loads04:01
fisk0I just got a strange bug, when I enable "menu shadows" there are double shadows, when I disable it there is still one shadow (as I would expect from "enable menu shadows")04:01
FireHazard17indeed04:01
trojjera few commercial ones :)04:01
premier_kane: I already said, beryl --replace didn't work... it still complained about "another window manager"04:01
DaskreechDaisuke_Ido: UT200704:01
FireHazard17and you can use wine04:01
Daisuke_Idothat requires an 8800 OC?04:01
kaneDaisuke_Ido: not fair, there are none on windows that requires that much power04:01
FireHazard178800 ultra04:01
kaneut2007 doesnt exsist yet.04:02
DaskreechDaisuke_Ido: No game requires that04:02
knappdaskreech No hostname specified.04:02
trojjerdoesn't Wine still involve a performance hit for games?04:02
FireHazard17thats why you need the card04:02
DaskreechDaisuke_Ido: they wouldn't sell a copy04:02
trojjerI doubt my 512MB RAM would suffice these days04:02
kanetrojjer: some, its getting better.04:02
FireHazard17:004:02
Daskreechkane: :-p04:02
trojjeryeah04:02
trojjera bit04:02
Daskreechkane: it will work on Linux on day one though04:02
Daisuke_Idotrojjer: actually in some cases games will perform better under wine than under real windows04:02
Daskreechnative even04:02
Daskreech /me runs UT200404:02
kaneme toooo04:02
trojjerwtf, really?04:02
trojjerWine  "better"?04:02
trojjerlol04:02
Daskreechknapp: where is that?04:03
Daisuke_Idokind of scary, eh?04:03
kanetrojjer: its true.04:03
FireHazard17yeah some04:03
FireHazard17windows is that flawed04:03
Kewlieheh04:03
trojjermaybe it's a similar, but different, thing to XP being better on new Macs under BootCamp lol04:03
Daisuke_Idoi'm still happy with my 7600 :D04:03
DaskreechDaisuke_Ido: better some games won't work under Windows but they do under Wine :)04:03
FireHazard17most all is better than vista04:03
kanetrojjer: check the benchmarks, wine performs certian opertations faster than windows does.04:03
FireHazard17vista is horrible for gaming04:03
trojjerany ops from the top of your head?04:03
Daisuke_IdoFireHazard17: OS/2 is better than vista :D04:03
DaskreechFireHazard17: it's horrible for anything but it's going to get better04:04
trojjeryeah I know, it must suck with all the DRM stuff04:04
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trojjerdoes it really check every 30 frames or something?04:04
premier_trojjer: if you want to play a game, just try it and see... or go to the wine APP DB04:04
Daskreechtrojjer: Not really DRm just security so far04:04
Daskreechit's annoying04:04
FireHazard17havent used vista yet04:04
Daisuke_Idoyou are trying to rocketjump.  Cancel or Allow?04:04
kanewhen i played WoW it performed better under cedega than windows04:04
DaskreechDaisuke_Ido: ha ha :)04:04
trojjerme neither really, sick of the "WOW" hype04:04
knappdaskreech An error occurred while loading fish:\\192.168.1.102: No hostname specified.04:04
knappdaskreech that's all I see04:04
Daskreechknapp: give it a username@192.168.1.10204:05
knappI did04:05
knappsame04:05
Daskreechreally?04:05
Daskreechhmm04:05
trojjerlol I wouldn't pay for Cedega... I didn't even pay for my XP Pro disc... ;) Regretted wiping the OEM installation of Home on the laptop though, now I'm in Windows Genuine Annoyance hell04:05
Daskreechknapp: Duh!04:05
Daskreechknapp: wrong slashes04:05
trojjercan't install the new MSI so I can install things such as the new Opera04:05
trojjerdamn SM04:06
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trojjerMS*04:06
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kanetrojjer: i dont mind helping out "Free" software when i can.04:06
Daisuke_Idojust installed the latest opera available today04:06
trojjerat least I have a legit CD should I want to use it04:06
trojjerwell, recovery DVD04:06
Daisuke_Idolinux = love04:06
Kansihey... I can't get the mode "superuser" when I wanna change theme in the KDM Theme Manager ?04:06
Kansihow can I be "superuser"04:06
trojjer(I mean the stupid "WOW Starts Now" crap, now WoW... although I don't like World of Warcraft that much lol)04:06
FireHazard17ask your admin04:07
FireHazard17:P04:07
Daisuke_Idoi have two legit copies of XP, one 32 and one 64.  i haven't used them in several months :D04:07
DaskreechKansi: You clicked the Adminstrator mode utton in the bottom right corner ?04:07
trojjerhelp out WINE by donating directly to them, maybe? :P04:07
knappdaskreech you mean \\ instead of //?04:07
KansiDaskreech:  there is noo Administrator mode04:07
Daskreechknapp: yeah04:07
FireHazard17i hate when it tells you to ask your admin im my fuckin admin04:07
knappsame error :(04:07
Daskreech!language | FireHazard1704:07
ubotuFireHazard17: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:07
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FireHazard17stop telling my to ask myself04:07
Daisuke_Idono, in system settings there is no administrator mode04:08
Daskreechknapp: ???04:08
FireHazard17sorry04:08
Daisuke_Idothis is a known bug04:08
Daisuke_Idoaccess it through kcontrol instead04:08
Daskreechknapp: let me see the address you are putting in04:08
knappAn error occurred while loading fish:\\todd%40192.168.1.102:04:08
KansiDaisuke_Ido: thanks04:08
trojjerthe whole separation of user privileges seems like a good idea, but as I said, the nags get tiresome...04:08
FireHazard17also the doesnt start now it started a year or two ago when beryl came out04:08
Daskreechknapp: fish://todd@192.168.1.10204:09
Daskreechknapp: click that04:09
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trojjerdoes Visudo bypass the nags without "opening backdoors"?04:09
knappwtf, thats exactly how I was typing it the first time04:09
knapplol04:09
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Daskreechtrojjer: it stops nags but if someone walks up to your machine they can do what ever they like04:09
cntb\o guys04:09
trojjeror does it make the PC a bit more vulnerable somehow? Progs have their own runlevels?04:09
Daskreechknapp: obviously it wasn't :)04:10
trojjerlol it's in my bedroom04:10
trojjerI don't care04:10
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trojjermore worried about remote attacks... well, not really04:10
knapp:O04:10
Daskreechtrojjer: fine add in the line kane gave you04:10
knappthanks man04:10
cntbguys how can I use dvdkubuntu as a source for apt-get?04:10
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Daskreechknapp: yeah Enjoy04:10
kanei didnt give anyone anylines.04:10
Daskreechcntb: live?04:10
kanei said it make a better password : )04:10
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trojjerI have a Linux PC now, and a Linksys WRT54G router with OpenWRT firmware... so double Linux firmware seal04:10
Daisuke_Idorockbox is still not ready for primetime (on the sansa e200 line)04:10
trojjerI mean Linux firewall*04:10
Daskreech!commercial04:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:11
trojjeroh btw, about firewalls04:11
FireHazard17!opensource04:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opensource - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:11
kanetrojjer: really though if you have a bad password atleast make sure you dont have an SSH server running.04:11
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trojjerI tried forwarding the listening port on BitComet under Windows04:12
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FireHazard17im a chef and i use opensauce04:12
FireHazard17its free04:12
trojjerso that I could download faster04:12
FireHazard17it comes out the trash04:12
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trojjerdo I need to keep using the webadmin page to enable/disable the listening rule?04:12
trojjermy pwd's okay04:12
trojjerabout medium04:12
trojjernot dictionary, two numbers04:13
Daskreech!info opensauce04:13
ubotuPackage opensauce does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas04:13
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Daskreechtrojjer: so about 10 minutes to get cracked then? :-)04:13
kaneshould be cool then. prolly dont have an ssh server running anyways.  i know mine gets slammed everyday04:13
trojjerlol04:13
trojjerffs04:13
trojjerI did make a "strong" one according to KDE04:14
trojjerbut it seemed like overkill04:14
FireHazard17like ab125DCAasd23404:14
Daskreechtrojjer: yeah it always does till after you get hacked :)04:14
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Daskreechlike A1b2c304:14
DaskreechGo spaceballs!04:14
trojjerthen again, I made sure to use special chars etc in my ebanking pwd04:14
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kaneas long as you are not running in a networked envrionment, and you dont have a way to log on to your computer remotly then it doesnt make a whole lot of difference.04:15
=== trojjer wonders if anyone has ever actually been hacked
Daskreechtrojjer: ha ha :)04:15
Daskreechask Visa :)04:15
KansiDaisuke_Ido: I can't find Kcontrol !!!04:15
=== trojjer knows about loads of rejected pings etc, but that's it
DaskreechKansi: press Alt+F204:15
kanetrojjer: i could show you my auth log and you can see people trying to brute force it.04:15
DaskreechKansi: type kcontrol04:15
DaskreechYou should be ok04:15
trojjerlol04:15
trojjerdo you see the actual password attempts?04:15
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carutsuhave anyone had speed problems for the downloads/uploads? should i forward any ports? if so, wich ones?04:15
Daskreechtrojjer: about 500 a hour04:16
Kansiok !!04:16
Kansithanks04:16
trojjeryikes04:16
trojjerfive hundred???04:16
DaskreechKansi: Welcome!04:16
kaneno, you can enable it somehow, im not sure how though.04:16
trojjerthe Internet's mad04:16
trojjerI remember reading about a honeytrap Windows box04:16
kanei installled an application to add an ip to deny.hosts after a few attempts04:16
kaneso that helps04:16
trojjeron the BBC website04:16
FireHazard17i have run windows unprotect with out a router or fire wall et had nothing happen04:16
trojjerme too actually04:17
trojjernothing seemed to happen anyway lol04:17
trojjerI was a bit scared04:17
kaneFireHazard17: i ran a windows laptop and it was trashed after about an hour.04:17
trojjerbut I was mostly patched up04:17
FireHazard17lol04:17
kanewithout a firewall or anthing.04:17
trojjerweird04:17
kanejust a default install.04:17
Daskreechtrojjer: yeah patches help a lot :)04:17
FireHazard17yeah mine was patched too04:17
trojjernever happened to me, no spyware really since I started using Firefox and Spybot etc04:17
FireHazard17i use fedora core04:18
trojjerlol with the stupid pirated SP2 CD that I used, because I thought "pro" was better04:18
trojjerI got the Blaster worm04:18
trojjerevery install04:18
FireHazard17no no i dont04:18
trojjerso I had to keep the firewall up, download the hotfix etfc04:18
trojjeretc*04:18
trojjershut WinMessenger the hell down!04:18
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trojjerokay04:19
Daskreechwell in anycase I'm kicking you all to OT04:19
Daskreech!OT04:19
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:19
trojjerhow do I get the bloody Panel up?04:19
trojjerall I've got now is the plain desktop04:19
trojjernothing04:19
Daskreechthanks for playing :-) Good night04:19
trojjerno run dialogue or anything04:19
trojjernight Dask04:19
Daskreechtrojjer: can you alt+F2 ?04:19
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trojjeryes I get terminals04:19
trojjeror consoles04:19
Daskreechtrojjer: kiccker04:19
trojjerbut no Alt+F204:19
Daskreechtrojjer: kicker04:19
trojjeris what I mean04:19
trojjerno Kicker, and I'm in GNOME lol04:19
trojjeris there an equiv?04:20
DaskreechRight >_<04:20
Daskreechnatilus I think04:20
trojjerI might as well just go the hell back to KDE04:20
trojjerand see how long it lasts this time04:20
trojjerthere must be something causing the general GUI sluggishness04:20
trojjeras I said, effects off04:20
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Daskreechhi nikkiana04:21
trojjer(is there an easy way to send a running prog from GNOME to KDE? I'm running Konversation, so it might work right? KDE app)04:21
Jack3is there an ubuntnu espanol channel04:21
trojjer(lol if only you could toggle environments like workstations)04:22
Nukedwhat plugin do I have to install to get amarok to play mp3 streams04:22
Nuked?04:22
Daskreechtrojjer: eh?04:22
Daskreech!es | Jack304:22
ubotuJack3: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.04:22
trojjerAmarok should ask you if you want them?04:22
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otaku-sanhey all...ok I know how I can put Firefox in root..and have it update..but will it stay there?  So it will automatically update without me?04:22
Daskreechtrojjer: and you can04:23
Daskreech!mp3 | Nuked04:23
ubotuNuked: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:23
trojjerit prompted me with the option to get restricted codecs, but because of the Adept/Synaptic crashing I couldn't download packages04:23
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Daskreechotaku-san: you will get frefox updates the same way you get all other updates so yes it will be automatic04:23
trojjerotaku, don't run a browser in root04:24
trojjerright? ;)04:24
trojjerlol04:24
Daskreechthat too04:24
trojjerI'm tempted to just login in root... well, I would be, if Ubuntu let me do that lol04:24
Daskreech!root04:24
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.04:24
trojjeryou can use the Launcher04:24
otaku-sanDaskreech, trojjer: ok...thanks guys04:25
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trojjerbut best not to with a browser?04:25
otaku-santhe Launcher?04:25
NukedDaskreech, I have all of that installed but amarok seems to be using the xine backend... is this perhaps the problem?04:25
otaku-san....hey anyone with the latest build of Kubuntu?04:25
trojjer!Launcher04:25
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about launcher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:25
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DaskreechNuked: ha ha did you read the page?04:25
DaskreechNuked: in short install libxine-extracodecs04:25
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Nukeddaskreech I installed that04:26
=== trojjer has KDE on 6.06... dunno if it's the latest KDE or a backport for Dapper
DaskreechNuked: and closed adept and reopened it ?04:26
=== trojjer just installed it
Nukedyes04:26
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DaskreechNuked: what is it doing ?04:26
Nukedand I dont use adept04:26
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DaskreechWhat did you use ?04:26
Nukedit just claims it cannot decode the stream04:26
Nukedapt-get04:26
DaskreechNuked: ah that04:26
DaskreechNuked: just double click it again04:26
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Daskreechit's moody today04:27
DaskreechHobbsee!!04:27
trojjer(so how do I send Konv over to KDE so I can logout of my GNOME session?)04:27
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Daskreechtrojjer: Oh I don't know about sending them over but you can run both DE's at the same time04:28
otaku-sanjust checking...because..Fedora 7 just came out..and they have this sweet boot screen...I mean..it's hot looking (in my opinion..it's simple..but cool) and we still have the black screen of olden days (no bashing ya'll who like it that way) I just like it crisp and all04:28
Daskreechif you just close Konv and open it back your history will be there04:28
Daskreechin the KDE session04:28
NukedDaskreech, thats extremely weird04:28
FireHazard17Daskreech: how can yo run two wm at once?04:28
Hobbseehi Daskreech!04:28
Daskreechotaku-san: you have no boot splash?04:29
DaskreechNuked: yeah tell me about it04:29
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DaskreechFireHazard17: open one up on a new terminal04:29
trojjerlol I just minimised Konversation, only to remember that the Panels have disappeared... had to relaunch it; thankfully it stayed connected even though it had no panel to go to, somehow04:29
FireHazard17oh...04:29
Daskreechwe have three running on that machine <--------- over there04:29
NukedDaskreech, it works04:29
trojjerlol04:30
DaskreechNuked: I figured it would04:30
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trojjerlot of RAM to hog though04:30
trojjerboth KDE and GNOME at the same time04:30
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trojjerI'm thinking of trying Xubuntu, but I don't think that my PC is *that* slow lol04:30
Daskreechtrojjer: yeah we reboot that machine lots though04:30
trojjermight feel snappier though04:30
trojjerI want some eye candy, what about IceWM? Then again I want one of the two "big ones"...04:31
trojjerreally04:31
otaku-sanDaskreech: I don't have something that makes the booting look good..no...I have a different screen for the KDM login..and the KDE splash screen..but no boot splash04:31
trojjermost compatibility04:31
Daskreechotaku-san: well if it comforts you ... you should04:31
FireHazard17!hi04:31
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:31
Daskreechtrojjer: Whats this about compatibilty ?04:32
otaku-sanHAHA ya...you are right Daskreech ....comforts me?  No..just looks sleek04:32
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otaku-sanDaskreech: just to lazy man....and I barely have time now like I did to make my linux box as cool as I would like04:32
=== trojjer does like it shaving off a few secs though
Daskreechtrojjer: good job :)04:33
FireHazard17trojjer: at the cost of your soul?04:33
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trojjerlol04:33
MinatakuI use XDM04:33
Daskreechotaku-san: well then do work on it till it makes you enough money where you can take the time off to make it secsy :)04:33
MinatakuVery plain, very Unix04:33
Minataku:304:33
Daskreechtrojjer: Yeah you can do that pretty easy04:33
jacquesis ubuntu.org down?04:34
otaku-sanDaskreech: haha there you go04:34
FireHazard17trojjer: i mean compatibility yeah...compatability...04:34
FireHazard17SOUL!!!!!04:34
DaskreechMinataku: ugly as sin and twice as functional I like it04:34
FireHazard17i mean *cough*04:34
trojjerI heard that Xubuntu isn't as "user-friendly" as K or G?04:34
Daskreechjacques: don't think so. Why?04:34
MinatakuDaskreech: Ugly nothing04:34
titanix88trojjer: it is,04:34
trojjerlol I hate the early '90s look of NextSTEP04:34
Daskreechtrojjer: Umm Sure . Why not? :)04:35
trojjerdunno about XDM04:35
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MinatakuI love the look of Motif04:35
=== trojjer hasn't experienced XFCE
MinatakuAbsolutely beautiful04:35
=== trojjer might download that, but doesn't want MORE packages lol
titanix88trojjer: not the look really, it's pretty nice to look at.04:35
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Daskreechhi claydoh04:35
jacquesI can not connect to it04:36
DaskreechMinataku: I should show you CDE :)04:36
trojjermaybe it's more modern now lol? The screenshots on the website made it look outdated, wonder what the themes are like04:36
Daskreechjacques: the website?04:36
trojjerthe KDE/GNOME themes that resemble Motif etc are old-looking04:36
MinatakuDaskreech: Use it on all my Solaris boxes04:36
titanix88trojjer: but i miss std features like right click context menu on desktop.:(04:36
jacquesyes04:36
claydohhello Daskreech04:36
FireHazard17solaris>04:36
MinatakuOpenWindows sucks, GNOME _really_ sucks04:36
DaskreechMinataku: and it all comes together :)04:36
FireHazard17solaris?04:36
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MinatakuCDE is very nice04:37
Daskreechjacques: try http://www.ubuntu.com04:37
MinatakuBehind it is MWM04:37
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trojjerlol... at least KDE makes Windows converts feel "more at home", slightly04:37
MinatakuWhich you can get free04:37
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MinatakuCDE in it's entirety is commercial04:37
trojjeryeah04:37
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MinatakuSo you can techically take any other DE like KDE and have it use MWM04:37
jacquesno I want to connect to www.ubuntuguide.org04:37
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deadowlalright, broadcom 4310 uart rev01 using ndiswrapper not scanning/connecting04:38
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deadowlanyone have any ideas?04:38
FireHazard17cde is a sad excuse for a WM04:38
trojjerso I can just close this to the invisible Panel somewhere in RAM (Konv), and when I login to a KDE session it'll still be there?04:38
Daskreechjacques: Hmm I can't reach there either04:38
Daskreech!networking04:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:39
Daskreech!network04:39
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs04:39
trojjerwtf??? It should be able to give you a link about networking, yikes04:39
trojjerbiiiig topic04:39
Daskreechtrojjer: Umm  not really04:39
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DaskreechYou can close the app and reopen it in KDE04:39
trojjeralthough network goes to wireless, lol04:39
jacquesthanks for trying04:40
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Daskreech it will remember all your history04:40
trojjerah04:40
clyrradQuick question - any one here know how to stop KDE from loading when the PC reboots?  In otherwords I only want KDE to run if I type startx04:40
Daskreechjacques: what are you looking up?04:40
deadowlthe topic of wireless is too big and therefore not well organized04:40
trojjerClyyrad: You want to use GNOME instead?04:40
Daskreechclyrrad: you want a headless machine?04:40
trojjerlol04:40
trojjerah right04:40
trojjerCLI04:40
trojjersorry04:40
Daskreechclyrrad: Sorry a CLI machine ?04:40
trojjerduh04:40
FireHazard17dur04:40
clyrradtrojjer: no - I want a CLI only machine 90% of the time... I only want KDE to load when I tell it04:40
trojjerright04:41
Daskreechdeadowl: Yes but it has a walkthrough04:41
trojjeryou don't even want the X login?04:41
FireHazard17noes04:41
clyrradcorrect04:41
trojjergotcha04:41
clyrradonly if I type starx then KDE should load04:41
trojjercome on then people ;)04:41
FireHazard17startx04:41
clyrradyes startx04:41
FireHazard17and then it loads04:41
jacques I wanted to install some database servers04:41
Minatakuclyrrad: Remove kdm from the default runlevel04:41
FireHazard17kde04:41
clyrradso how do I disable it from starting automatically?04:41
Minataku!runlevel04:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:41
Daskreechclyrrad: alt+Enter -> System -> (press enter) -> advanced -> service manager04:41
MinatakuLame04:41
FireHazard17i hate ubotu04:42
Daskreechjacques: which servers ?04:42
otaku-sanaaaah poor ubotu04:42
baudthiefHello - I've got 1GB of ram in this machine, so far ~500MB is used by Kubuntu + beryl, etc. If I leave it on for a day or so, it consumes all the free RAM and starts using swap (starts getting sluggish) - is there a reason for this?04:42
clyrradDaskreech: alt+enter does nothing for me??04:42
Daskreechclyrrad: are you in KDE ?04:42
clyrradYep sure am04:42
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l_rhello04:42
trojjerhi04:43
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Daskreechclyrrad: :-(04:43
Minatakubaudthief: Heh, brings back bad memories04:43
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clyrradDaskreech: is it not possible to get there via the K menu?04:43
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Daskreechclyrrad: ok then open system settings -> Advanced -> System Services04:43
trojjeryes it's just the shortcut key lol04:43
baudthiefMinataku: :\ This happenned before on my ubuntu (gnome) install, made it impossible to try and run vmware decently04:43
trojjerso many configurators to get used to though04:43
FireHazard17i hope ubotu goes insane with knowledge and kills himself04:43
trojjerand that's just the visual ones04:44
clyrradDaskreech: ok im there now04:44
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l_ri have a problem when terminating a session. whatever i click on (shutdown, reboot, etc..) , sometimes kde does not do shutdown, reboot. any idea?04:44
Daskreechclyrrad: take KDM out of your default boot level04:44
clyrradDaskreech: ok I guress I enter in admin mode04:44
l_ri always have to to halt manually04:44
Daskreechclyrrad: good guess04:44
clyrradDaskreech: ah i see the option :) Start doing boot04:45
clyrradJust uncheck that and im good?04:45
Minatakubaudthief: In my case, it was a kernel memory leak in ACPI04:45
trojjer(ah yes, about shutdown... why does my Ubuntu seem to take quite a bit longer than Windows to shutdown? I haven't compared it directly, but it seems like it does... and there are so many processing running at idle, lol... although at least I can see exactly what is running though, under "All Processes" -- better than the devious WinTaskMan)04:45
MinatakuAfter 10 days, OOM stepped in and crashed everything because the kernel filled up all the RAM _and_ swap04:45
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FireHazard17oom?04:46
DaskreechFireHazard17: one more than oop :)04:46
FireHazard17:P04:46
clyrradDaskreech: thanks for your help04:46
MinatakuOut Of Memory04:46
trojjerokay seeya when I login to KDE04:47
Daskreechclyrrad: sure04:47
baudthiefMinataku: damn man, windows didn't even do this with me, had it on for weeks at a time with no probs04:47
Daskreechbaudthief: which beryl04:47
trojjerah twat04:47
Cosmo_I am trying to play a video file inside swiftfox but when it asks to install the plugin it comes back with the error "Unknown Plugin (video/divx) how do I fix it?04:47
Minatakubaudthief: Nothing is perfect04:47
trojjerhow do I logout without the panel again? Ctrl+Alt+Bk just restarts GNOME04:47
FireHazard17that sounds horrible04:48
trojjerit's how I lost the Panels in the first place04:48
DaskreechCosmo_: Umm.. Install mplayer is my knee jerk reaction04:48
MinatakuBTW: I did resolve it, I helped the kernel devs trace it and solve it04:48
Daskreechbaudthief: and you are using pre alpha software :)04:48
FireHazard17try not using beryl04:48
clyrradtrojjer: you mean like how windows has a WINDOWS KEY + L option?04:48
Cosmo_Daskreech: already had it installed04:48
DaskreechCosmo_: Not too sure.04:48
FireHazard17whats wondpws key + L do?04:48
trojjerlol04:49
baudthiefDaskreech: How do I find out the version of beryl? No alpha/pre software on this install04:49
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DaskreechCosmo_: you could ask in #ubuntu as well they have more firefox/media experience04:49
clyrradFireHazard17: it locks your session04:49
FireHazard17oh04:49
Daskreechbaudthief: all of beryl is pre alpha so ... yeah you do04:49
DragnslcrHeh, I was about to say04:49
trojjeryes the Super key... and how do I set the keybindings in KDE/GNOME so that it brings up the relevant "Start" menu? That'd be better than Ctrl+Esc for me04:49
baudthiefdamn, I just did it through apt04:49
clyrradFireHazard17: like how your "screen saver" does - so you need to enter your password to resume your session04:49
Daskreechtrojjer: alt+F104:49
hitmanWillytrojjer: try alt-f2 kdesu /etc/init.d/kdm restart04:49
Kansiwhy does kubuntu becomes all white when I open beryl ?04:49
DragnslcrBeryl isn't even close to beta yet04:49
clyrradtrojjer: yea - I would be interested to know that too04:49
Daskreechbaudthief: :) Yeah it's nice but still very young04:49
FireHazard17yeah i get it i just never knew the shortcut04:50
Daskreech baudthief: feisty I'm guessing ?04:50
FireHazard17ive used it just not the shortcut04:50
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KansiDragnslcr:  but it works on ubuntu04:50
Daskreechbaudthief: In any case lets find out what's eating your memory04:50
Kansi(gnome)04:50
clyrradFireHazard17: ok guess that makes 3 of us wanting to know how to do that :p04:50
baudthiefyeah feisty :\ Couldn't get 6.0x to install on this machine04:50
Daskreechbaudthief: Ctrl+Esc04:50
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=== trojjer for use with the "Super" key
deadowli've got this for my wireless interface on kernel log: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 1404:51
deadowlwhat does this mean exactly?04:51
=== trojjer misses in particular the Win+R shortcut
clyrradDaskreech: what does Ctrl+Esc do?  Bring up the password screen?04:51
=== trojjer thinks it's better than Ctrl+F2
baudthiefDaskreech: Ctrl+Esc'd - i've just reboot so mem is "only" 617MB used04:51
trojjernah Ctrl+Esc is the "Start"/K/Gnome bar04:51
trojjerI think04:51
trojjeroh04:51
trojjerlol04:51
Daskreechclyrrad: Nope it's the process manager in KDE04:52
trojjeroh04:52
Daskreechdeadowl: it's trying to find a DHCP server04:52
baudthief(617MB according to free -m)04:52
clyrradDaskreech: ah this is like the WinDOZE taksmanger.exe - cool I didnt know this04:52
FireHazard17win r ?04:52
Daskreechbaudthief: what's using the most ?04:52
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FireHazard17what did that do?04:52
cntbtrojjer04:52
trojjerwhen I boot I get about 200MB+ with GNOME, and 150 or so with KDE04:52
cntbwin+r is easy04:52
DaskreechFireHazard17: same thing as alt+F204:52
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FireHazard17oh04:52
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baudthiefDaskreech: as in vmSize?04:53
trojjerout of 512MB it isn't too bad, but it crawls with bloody Firefox04:53
Daskreechbaudthief: I think04:53
Daskreechbaudthief: I forget :)04:53
FireHazard17firefox is a mem hog?04:53
clyrradvery cool I didnt know KDE had this "taskmanager" feature - I always use the CML and ps aux |grep blah blah04:53
cntbalso apply symbolic link cmd= konsole04:53
trojjerit is for me, with more than a few tabs04:53
Daskreechclyrrad: again it's going to be much kooler in KDE404:53
trojjerstrange anomaly04:53
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Daskreechbaudthief: sure what's using the most VMsize ?04:54
clyrradDaskreech: cool enough for me now since I use the command line 90% of the time :)04:54
trojjerKonq seems a bit better but I'm not fussed on it04:54
cntbclyrrad niceing feature sometimes helps in task manager04:54
Daskreechclyrrad: You are killing KDE altogether why do you kare? :)04:54
baudthiefDaskreech: For vmSize, Beryl is first with 196MB, Xorg is second with 125MB04:54
clyrradDaskreech: nah im not killing it - I use it when I need GUI apps04:54
clyrradlike firefox for example04:54
Daskreechbaudthief: can you ask in #ubuntu-effects iif that's normal ?04:54
Daskreechclyrrad: you could use w3m04:55
baudthiefsure04:55
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clyrradDaskreech: w3m?04:55
trojjerahh w3m... is that the w3c? Or am I getting confused with Amaya?04:55
premier_this is getting annoying... beryl won't start unless you kill kdesktop first04:55
premier_and no, beryl --replace does not work04:55
cntbI have image bkd up my kubuntu and I can shoot restore it from WINDOWS with ghost32 while windows running04:56
Daskreechclyrrad: command line web browser. pretty slick04:56
premier_Daskreech: by pretty slick, you mean, going back in time, right?04:57
Daskreechpremier_: I mean getting a lot of stuff done while still being in the command line04:57
clyrradDaskreech: ah - I use lynx for that04:57
premier_Daskreech: really?  cause I get a lot of stuff done and I don't have to use the command line04:57
=== Daskreech proposes that w3m is better :)
Daskreechpremier_: I never said you had to04:58
=== clyrrad thinks he will give it a shot
cntbis leadtek TVcard working OK with mythTV ?04:58
Daskreechclyrrad: It's installed already so ...04:58
Daskreechcntb: #mythtv-users04:59
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clyrradDaskreech: ok im gonna look at it now04:59
baudthiefDaskreech: They said it's a buggy card driver ;\04:59
cntbk04:59
Daskreechbaudthief: ahh Nvidia ?04:59
DaskreechNo wiat05:00
kewlieSomeone here earlier shared the command to d/l and install nvidia drivers but the OS is still complaining about have an active xserver running, I have tried the ways on ubuntu.com and ended up having to go into safe mode and reconfigure xserver to get back in?05:00
Daskreech that was the black bug05:00
Daskreechkewlie: you have to answer in the form of a question ?05:00
kewlielol no sorry that was slip05:00
DaskreechOk :005:00
Daskreech:-)05:00
DaskreechSo you have a question ?05:01
kewliei restart the xserver and get booted into a command line05:01
clyrradDaskreech: yea w3m is pretty cool too - but is surely cant replace a GUI browser which can render CSS and images :)  - but a cool tool never the less - very much like lynx05:01
Daskreechclyrrad: Yeah I think that it may have a plugin for images05:01
kewlieim trying to install nvidia drivers but it complains about the xserver being active, i was told not to worry bout that however I cannot get around that error05:01
Daskreechor that might have been a different browser I forget :(05:01
clyrradDaskreech: heh - that'd be kool!!!05:02
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baudthiefDaskreech: Beryl05:02
Daskreechbaudthief: what video card?05:02
baudthief*'s ram consumption is going up by ~4mb/minute lol05:02
baudthiefnVidia 7600GS05:02
Daskreechbaudthief: time to change drivers? :)05:03
Daskreechkewlie: how are you installing ?05:03
Daskreechhi intelikey05:03
intelikeyfreenode has   -:- Current global users: 3043005:03
baudthiefThis is a fresh Kubuntu + nVidia install lol, did it yesterday using nVidia's drivers05:03
Daskreech!nvidia | baudthief05:03
ubotubaudthief: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:03
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intelikeyDaskreech05:04
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kewliein the terminal sudo sh (installer) commands05:04
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Daskreechkewlie: do you have irissi installed ?05:04
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kewliei have no idea what that is05:04
kewliei had them installed once but i tried to get beryl running and i corrupted the driver I think05:05
intelikeyit's irssi  the console/terminal based irc client05:05
Daskreechkewlie: ok well before anyone starts messing with X I advise irissi05:05
Daskreechirssi :005:05
kewlieok thx05:05
Daskreech;-)05:05
baudthiefDaskreech: should I do a full system backup before attempting to install the binary drivers?05:06
Daskreechkewlie: Do you know how to switch to virtual terminals ?05:06
kewlienope05:06
Daskreechbaudthief: Ahhhm no that's a bit drastic05:06
Daskreechbaudthief: you could though :)05:06
kewlieive been playing with kubuntu for a month by myself trying to get this together lol05:06
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Daskreechbaudthief: You could listen in on this  conversation with kewlie though05:06
intelikeywhat's up doc05:06
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kewliei got the latest drivers and had them installed once, because glx and glxgears worked05:07
dr_willisgot the weekend off!05:07
dr_willis:)05:07
kewliei could run open gl apps great05:07
Daskreechkewlie: well install irssi and I'll play with you in the mean time05:07
intelikeykewl bein's05:07
Daskreech baudthief you as well05:07
home_hello everyone05:07
Daskreechhi home_05:08
baudthiefDaskreech: turns out I already have the binary restricted drivers :p05:08
kewlieok brb ill go find this irssi05:08
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Daskreechkewlie, baudthief: ok I want you to press alt+Ctrl+F1 and login as yourself then press alt+Ctrl+F705:08
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Daskreechthat should bring you back here05:08
kewlieok05:08
kewlieyes that works05:09
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baudthiefyep05:10
Daskreechkewlie: ok if you install irssi you can log into irc from the command line :)05:10
kewliecool05:10
kewlieill go do that05:10
Daskreechso if for some reason you break X bad you can still get help here05:10
Daskreechso if you press alt+ctrl+f1 and do a sudo apt-get install irssi05:11
Daskreechyou can then do a irssi -c irc.freenode.net05:11
Daskreechwhen it comes up type /join #kubuntu05:11
Daskreechand we can play some more :)05:11
intelikeycould put the channel on the command line too   ?05:11
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DaskreechYou can ?05:12
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kewlieok05:12
baudthieflol got my laptop out05:12
DaskreechDidn't look into it that much :)05:12
BaudXPtest05:12
Daskreechintelikey: what's the switch ?05:12
DaskreechBaudXP: This is from windows Xp ?05:12
intelikeyhehhe i don't use irssi.   for bx it's  -c  for channel  :)05:13
baudthiefyeah, can't convert laptop to ubuntu too lol - need my development apps on it05:13
Daskreechcooties!!!05:13
baudthiefhaha05:13
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jason_lol whoa05:13
kewlielol yah thats cool05:13
baudthiefjason_: does it remind you of days when the internet was so slow, that you'd spend the whole night and only get to see one woman? :p05:14
jason_lol05:14
Daskreech!women05:14
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.05:14
Daskreechin anycase :-)05:14
jason_oh man05:14
baudthiefhaha05:14
Daskreechwell now you can play with your driverrs as much as you want and if you break something bad you can get help here :005:15
Daskreech;-)05:15
jason_my roomate just asked if this was some old bbs service lol05:15
hitmanWillythere's an uphill battle...05:15
Daskreechjason_: No would you like an old bbs service? :-)05:15
cntbhow to includedvd kubuntu in source.list05:15
cntb!sources05:16
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:16
baudthiefDaskreech: so binary drivers installed with apt aren't the latest?05:16
Daskreechcntb: Is it a live DVD ?05:16
jason_nah prodigy wore me out05:16
Daskreechbaudthief: No they are stable05:16
intelikeywell. Daskreech looks like i fumbled that one.   irssi doesn't support channel on the command line     not according to the man page anyway.05:16
cntbyes Daskreech05:16
cntbcan it be used as a source05:16
hitmanWillyintelikey: got there about 2 secs before me...05:16
=== intelikey knew there were reasons he liked bx better
Daskreechcntb: as far as I know it cannot be used as a source I could be very wrong give me a second05:16
cntbfor apt-get05:17
Kr4t05Is there any way to just completely replace kicker?05:17
intelikeyhitmanWilly i had to install it to check....05:17
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Kr4t05I have AWN as a taskbar/systemtray, but I still want access to a K-menu05:17
cntbwell I need local repository and I hoped this would be it05:17
hitmanWillyahhh....05:17
cntbnp05:17
Daskreechcntb: wait05:17
Daskreechcntb: I could be wrong05:17
cntbI am tired of installing from net all the time05:17
dr_willisKr4t05,  i think its doable.. but never bothered. :) ya could make a new desktop.session to run just what you want05:17
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Daskreech!dvd05:18
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs05:18
DaskreechDrat :)05:18
Kr4t05dr_willis: Eh?05:18
Daskreechcntb: have you tried apt-cdrom ?05:18
hitmanWillycntb: it doesn't really matter since they'll probably get re-downloaded in a couple upgrades anyway05:18
intelikeyoh well.   i looked.    and now tty24 [root@~]  urpme irssi05:18
DaskreechhitmanWilly: you sir are joking :)05:18
dr_willisKr4t05,  make a new entry/desktop sessiin for your kdm  login that lods just the kde window manager, and your panel  perhaps05:19
Kr4t05dr_willis: Ah...05:19
hitmanWillyyes...and no05:19
Daskreechcntb: put the dvd in and run apt-cdrom05:19
Daskreechor sudo apt-cdrom05:19
intelikeycntb i share your disdain of network installation of all software.05:19
jason_lol nvidia still wants a xserver killed doh05:19
Daskreechjason_: kill it then05:20
baudthiefhmm maybe I should just get rid of beryl :\05:20
jason_dont know how, the only command ive seen is init 3 and that doesnt seem to do anything05:20
Daskreechjason_: alt+ctrl+F2 -> Login -> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop -> <do install stuff>05:20
baudthiefor get another 1GB of ram lol, that way it'll take 4 days to fill up instead of 2 :p05:20
cntbgood thing about network it is most prolly updated05:21
Daskreechbaudthief: or get better drivers05:21
Daskreechcntb: bad thing is it's sloooooow05:21
intelikeycntb only if you have the updates and security repos enabled05:21
baudthiefDaskreech: that tutorial you showed me said to use restricted-manager to install the proper drivers, yet there's no option to change/upgrade?05:21
kewlieoh thx05:21
Daskreechbaudthief: well if you installed the ones from nvidia's site they are newer than the ones that the restricted-manager installs so it has no incentive to change them05:22
baudthiefahh I didn't, I just installed using apt-get - so I just head up to nvidia's site, download + install?05:23
intelikeyjason_ to learn a little of the very basics of job control.  you should first read the manual page on the man command so you'll kinda understand how to find/view manual pages.  then look at the infonode on    !cli05:23
jason_i see that now05:24
intelikey!cli | jason_  type; man man     then look here >05:24
intelikeyooops where's the bot ?05:24
jason_lol05:24
intelikey!cli05:24
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal05:24
intelikeythere  ^05:24
Daskreechbaudthief: wait. it's the apt-get driver behaving badly?05:24
jason_i did the kdm stop and now im at the text command line thx05:24
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baudthiefaccording to ubuntu-effects it is, they didnt ask what driver i'm using05:24
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Daskreechbaudthief: they certainly know more than I do :)05:25
intelikeyjason_ at least make a note of that for future referance.  you'll be glad you did.05:25
baudthieflol, ok so the drivers from the nvidia site are "better", or should I just not bother?05:25
Daskreechbaudthief: I don't know :)05:26
Daskreechbaudthief: this is where I turn you over to #ubuntu-effects to pester them :)05:26
baudthiefhaha alright05:27
intelikey/me can't install nvidia drivers  ;'(    </sniff>05:27
hitmanWillybaudthief: actually, the ones from the site are worse for ubuntu that the repo ones05:27
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hitmanWillybaudthief: if you just want the latest ones, apt-get nvidia-glx-new05:28
pikkohello...05:28
intelikeyassuming it's not legacy ^05:28
Daskreech!hi05:28
ubotuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu!05:28
pikkohi05:28
hitmanWillytrue...05:28
pikkowhat's the topic?05:29
Daskreech!topic05:29
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic05:29
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baudthiefok, trying nvidia-glx-new05:29
intelikeyi see what happened on that bot call i messed up.... it's the second pipe. it sent the whole post to  >05:29
hitmanWillybaudthief: what kind of card is it?05:29
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baudthiefhitmanWilly: 7600GS05:30
baudthief*nVidia05:30
hitmanWillybaudthief: ok, youre fine with the -new ones then05:30
baudthiefsweet heh... I did an apt-get install nvidia-glx-new, it's done05:30
baudthiefwhat now?05:30
intelikeydoes he need to configure ?05:31
hitmanWillybaudthief: run sudo nvidia-xconfig, then reboot05:31
hitmanWillybaudthief: full reboot, not just an X restart05:31
baudthiefDone05:31
baudthiefno probs heh, back soon, rebooting05:31
intelikeywhat's that command to probe the monitor again ?05:32
BaudXPhaha... probe the monitor :p05:33
hitmanWillyintelikey: ?05:33
flakethat's some serious p03n05:33
intelikeyyes to get the refresh rates and stuff that it supports05:33
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hitmanWillyintelikey: crap...i forget...05:34
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BaudXPhaha same05:34
intelikeyi did too   and if i find it again i'm gonna make a note and file it on three drives for safe keeping05:34
hitmanWillylol05:35
intelikeyforget that it   ^05:35
intelikeyoh yes, does unzip not support unpacking .exe archives ?05:36
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intelikeyhmmm says they are... but i have a .exe that it doesn't unzip05:37
Daskreechcntb: ping05:38
hitmanWillyintelikey: are you sure its a zip exe or is it something like a .cab extractor?05:38
intelikeyNote that self-extracting ZIP files are supported, as with any other ZIP archive; just  specify  the .exe suffix (if any) explicitly. <<< man unzip said.05:38
intelikeyhitmanWilly hmmm well...   lemme check05:39
intelikeyFAH504-Linux.exe: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for05:39
intelikeyGNU/Linux 2.0.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, stripped05:39
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intelikeymaybe it's not zipped....05:40
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intelikeywell looks like it's not.   hehhe just expected the .exe to be a self extracting zip file   it's just an elf binary05:41
jason_is it ok to let nvidia compile a kernel interface for my cards driver?05:41
dr_willisthat would be weird. :)05:41
hitmanWillyjason_: yes05:42
hitmanWillyjason_: it needs to do that to work05:42
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dblespressoanyone know how to tuen off http referrer in konqueror? not alot out there on this...05:43
dblespressoer, turn off05:43
jason_this os is way more involved than I thought05:43
jason_but thats a good thing05:43
dblespressolol05:43
jason_i use xp all day at work and no less than 4 times a day does the server or the terminals crash for no reason05:44
dblespressothis os is what you will never leave when you become well-versed in it.05:44
jason_lol it played n64 games im all for it05:44
intelikeywell ok.  now i have answers to these "people" (started to say kids...)  that come in asking about those  *.exe  for linux downloads from UNI.   they are ELF executables.   you just run them.05:44
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intelikeyhitmanWilly you might want to note that also   ^05:45
dblespressolol@exe05:45
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dblespressoanyone know anything about http referrer in konqueror?05:45
intelikeydblespresso yes i have no idea why it has a file extention.05:45
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hitmanWillyintelikey: maybe to not confuse the windows folks?05:46
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hitmanWillywhich is an extremely bad idea imho05:46
intelikeymaybe.  but it has the reverse affect on the linux folk for whom it's intended  so....05:46
intelikeyyes mine too05:47
dblespressoi think that linux, esp. ubuntu, is catering a little too much to the windows crowd in the hopes they'll find it easier05:47
intelikeyindeed05:47
mjngreetings. i have a question about installing vmplayer via adept.05:47
hitmanWillywell, they're starting to get the bloat factor down...05:47
mjnis this the right place?05:47
dblespressothere's a huge diff between bein a user and actually using computers05:47
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intelikeylol @ bloat factor...      "by a magnatude"    :}05:48
Daskreechjason_: it does05:48
BaudXPoh man, after installing the new drivers the video tearing problem is back, wont allow me to select a refresh rate above 54hz :(05:48
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dblespressoi actually thought about downloading the new fedora 7, but i've been using (k)ubuntu since it came out. i cannot seem to tear myself away...05:48
hitmanWillyBaudXP: try adding the refresh into xorg.conf05:48
intelikey54HURTS    !05:49
mjnafter installing the vmplayer, it keeps on trying to configure the vmware network setting everytime i use the dpkg05:49
Daskreechdblespresso: please do :) it might broaden you for a few months :)05:49
Daskreechmore knowledge is good05:49
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titanix88dblespresso: i was an windows fan & after ubuntu i don't like windows XP because it's cmd line is too weak!(i love GNU/Linux :)05:49
vit_hola05:50
hitmanWillydblespresso: ive run pretty much every major distro/base out there at one point or another05:50
Daskreechhi knapp_05:50
vit_hola a todos05:50
dblespressobeen a linux user since '98. used red hat, then mandrake, now ubuntu05:50
intelikeyare they up to seven already....   'tisk tisk'  only seems like yesterday they forked...   i still have rh905:50
DaskreechhitmanWilly: and the best is haikuos isn't it? :)05:50
dblespressobefore that i was a mac user05:50
BaudXPlol I should mention that 640x480 is the max res i'm allowed to choose too :p05:51
hitmanWillyDaskreech: don't make me hurt you.../jk05:51
dblespressofedora doesn't seem to support my laptop near as well as ubuntu does05:51
DaskreechhitmanWilly: awww don't be like that05:51
dblespressoubunti just *works*05:51
dblespressoer, ubuntu05:51
DaskreechhitmanWilly: I know the best one is $OSIUSENOW05:51
titanix88btw everyone ,why not use GNU/Linux term? We need to give credits to FSF too, not just Linux Kernel Developers.05:51
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hitmanWillylol, always is...05:52
Daskreechtitanix88: cool go right ahead :)05:52
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Daskreechhi jason_ How's that bbs kicking ?05:52
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intelikeyBaudXP well ridiged rate and fixed size.  yep the new driver is working.   :)    all kidding aside.  i think you are but a step or two from getting that thing to produce the graphics it was made for...    unfortuneately i don't know the setps...05:52
intelikeysteps05:52
intelikeyeceh05:53
intelikeyeven05:53
intelikeyi'll get back on home key some day.05:53
dblespressotitanix... RMS is nice and all, but linux is just a kernel, not an OS. each distro throws in its own userland and makes it an actual distro. the term linux is generic and works well for what it's intended to do... convey information05:53
Daskreechdblespresso: please don't start a Political row in here05:54
intelikeydblespresso actually the kernel is the os all the rest is fluff05:54
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Daskreechintelikey: and you don't encourage it :-P05:54
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intelikeyDaskreech i do too05:54
DaskreechYou are all welcomed to chat about it in OT05:54
dblespressoa kernel without a userland is not an OS, bro. it's just a kernel05:54
Daskreech!OT05:54
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:54
intelikeyoh never mind.05:54
Daskreechdblespresso, intelikey and titanix88: Chat away in #kubuntu-offtopic05:55
DaskreechI want to encourage the discussion just not in here05:55
BaudXPintelikey: argh :(05:56
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intelikeyBaudXP what did i do now ?05:56
Tm_Konviagreed05:56
titanix88dblespresso, intelikey and titanix88: well let's go offtopic. they just want to use k/ubuntu in ur everyline :(05:56
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Tm_Konvihm, no superpowers05:57
DaskreechTm_Konvi: my cow doesn't have it either :(05:57
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Tm_KonviDaskreech: well,just should take over my normal client05:59
intelikeylol05:59
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intelikeyyeah that !   @ Daskreech05:59
intelikeyTm_Konvi what issue exactly ?06:00
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Tm_Konviintelikey: er?06:01
Daskreechhi nik06:02
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intelikeyTm_T oh nevermind  thought you were having an issue.   sorry, misunderstood the "<Tm_Konvi> hm, no superpowers"06:02
intelikeyTm_Konvi ^06:03
Tm_Konvihmm, looks like I once again have over one minute pings06:03
intelikeysomeone trying to kick your door down ?06:03
Tm_Konviintelikey: what issue where?06:03
Tm_Konviintelikey: ah that issue, hostmask in access list06:04
Tm_Konviso, should take Tm_T in action to be able to wear that silly hat06:04
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Tm_Konviwoohoo, less than 6 hours left downloading!06:05
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BaudXPoh man, this is crap - I can't change my display resolution to anything higher than 640x48006:06
BaudXPwhat was the point of the new drivers!06:06
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hendaustitanix88: wb06:06
Tm_Konviand just for get my Kubuntu uptodate06:06
Daskreech!resolution06:06
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:06
DaskreechBaudXP: ^^^06:06
intelikeyTm_Konvi oh my!  not on dialup are you ?06:06
titanix88hendaus: long time no see :)06:06
hendaus:)06:06
Tm_Konviharhar, and should update KDE4 svn too, that will take day or two too =)06:07
hendaustitanix88:  i need u urgent06:07
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Tm_Konviintelikey: well, sort of yes, gprs, that means dialup using gsm phone06:08
LeeJunFanSo all the blazing speeds of dial-up with twice the latency? :)06:08
Tm_Konviintelikey: so, dialup modem with high latency =)06:08
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dr_willisHmm.. are thses "SD" memory cards for camera like real  senestive? ive had 2 die on me in the last week.06:09
DaskreechYeah06:09
LeeJunFandr_willis: make sure they aren't mounted with sync option if they are fat FS.06:10
di_hi, how do i get konqueror to close a tab when i middle click it?06:10
dr_willisone only lasted a week.06:10
dr_willisusing them in my gp2x player/handheld.06:10
dr_willisthe silly thing aint even showing up in fdisk.06:10
dr_williswindows aint even seeing the one either.06:10
Daskreechdi_: middle click drags tabs or opens URLS06:11
di_Daskreech: oh06:11
di_i think i just have to get used to that06:11
di_thanks anyway06:11
di_kde rocks06:11
Daskreechdi_: Yeah you'll use Ctrl+W a lot more06:12
di_just wondering how to get the window list bar to show only apps open on the current desktop06:12
di_because im using 5-sided 3d beryl06:12
DragnslcrRight-click the taskbar and go to Configure Panel06:13
intelikeyi would normally call the bot on that...   !beryl06:13
DragnslcrIn the Taskbar section there's an option to show/hide windows from all desktops06:13
di_there is?06:13
intelikeyDragnslcr in beryl ?06:14
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di_Dragnslcr: i can't find that option06:15
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intelikeyi think i may have found a new cpu fan !!! scratch that, used cpu fan for my main box.   it's hard to find old parts new any more.06:16
intelikeythis case fan is too noisy to use for a cpu fan.  maybe i just used too big a case fan.  or too high a voltage06:17
di_Dragnslcr: ah06:17
di_i had to disable beryl first and use kwin06:18
di_thanks06:18
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di_oh wait06:18
di_sigh06:18
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intelikey!beryl | di_ you may find more helpfull help where beryl is supported.06:19
ubotudi_ you may find more helpfull help where beryl is supported.: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects06:19
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DragnslcrOh, guess that's only in vanilla KDE06:20
DragnslcrSorry 'bout that06:20
di_its ok06:20
di_ill live with it fine06:20
intelikeyjust ignore me.06:20
DragnslcrI would imagine Beryl has the same option somewhere06:20
di_hmm06:20
intelikeyno body ever reads what i write anyway...06:20
DragnslcrHeh06:20
SolifugusHow do you play videos in caffeine?  I mean, openning a video file with caffeine shows my some options like playlist, play dvd, etc.. how do I play the stinking video I double-clicked on in the first place?06:21
SolifugusIt's just this mpeg-4 video: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/gallery/videos.html06:24
intelikey!mpg06:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:25
intelikeyprolly not relevent.06:26
intelikeybut could be a codec issue06:26
Solifugushow do you get codecs?  i read shuttleworth saying that ubuntu makes it easy to get codecs06:26
intelikeyyou have libxine-extracodecs (!sp) installed ?06:26
dr_willis!codecs06:27
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:27
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jeanhello06:27
jeanhow to rar unrar?06:27
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intelikeyisn't that like the same infonode ?   anything from vlc to avi sill hit that same infonode  ^06:27
jeanlatest kubuntu06:27
Daskreech!rar06:27
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free06:27
jeanthanx!06:27
intelikey!unrar | jean06:27
ubotujean: please see above06:27
Solifuguslibxine-extracodecs is installing now..06:28
jeanthanx guys!06:28
jean;o)06:28
intelikeySolifugus i make you no promices but, that's supposed to fix it.   you should really give the page ubotu mentioned a once over.06:29
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Solifugusthanks.. its at least some things to try..06:29
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intelikeyFreejack_CSI ?      money for nothing  and that stupid TV show  ???06:31
DragnslcrHeh06:31
Daskreechhi leileilol06:31
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leileilolnihao06:33
jwallingfordin suse we used packman and guru for repositories.... is there anything like that for kubuntu?06:33
Daskreech!adept06:34
dr_willisubuntu uses the apt system06:34
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto06:34
DragnslcrI gotta say, Adept rocks06:34
jfrerichshi i have been trying to get my logitech bluetooth mouse to auto connect but I cant seem to get it anyone know how?06:34
Dragnslcrjfrerichs- when your system boots?06:35
intelikeyDragnslcr ever break dpkg yet ?06:35
Dragnslcrintelikey- heh, nope06:35
Daskreech!bluetooth06:35
ubotuFor instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup06:35
jwallingforddr_willis: is there a list of repositories and what they have anywhere? can i use packman and guru in ubuntu?06:35
jfrerichsya im on a laptop so i would like to do it whenever06:35
pawitpIsn't bluetooth kinda automatic with kde?06:36
DatalancheIs there a Qt based Winamp-like media player? I know I could just install beep or use amarok, but I really want a smaller player to throw stuff around in without messing up my amarok playlists and stuff06:36
DaskreechDatalanche: I just use kaffiene for that06:36
jfrerichsmy bluetooth works if i do a hidd --search in terminal but cant auto06:36
intelikeyDragnslcr dpkg/apt/whatever is good.  but it's not all that.   i have had more trubble with it than i ever did with urpmi in mandrake [8-10]     but there really is no "perfect" package management.06:37
dr_willisjwallingford,  packman and guru are a totally different system. Ubuntu/Kubuntu uses apt and its related tools06:37
dr_willis!apt06:37
ubotuAPT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)06:37
Datalancheyeah that's what I've been doing.. it works but I was just wondering if there was a Qt alternative to beep06:37
Dragnslcrjfrerichs- take a look at /etc/default/bluetooth06:37
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intelikeyDatalanche sox if you don't need a gui frontend06:38
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Dragnslcrjfrerichs- make sure BLUETOOTH_ENABLED and HIDD_ENABLED are set to 106:38
jfrerichsya i did that already06:39
pawitpintelikey: That's not qt06:39
DragnslcrThen do this line (change it where it already is)- HIDD_OPTIONS="--connect 00:01:02:03:04:05 --connect 00:06:07:08:09:0A --server"06:39
jfrerichsi also added hidd options06:39
intelikeypawitp no it's not.06:40
Dragnslcrjfrerichs- obviously those MAC addresses should be the addresses for your devices06:40
intelikeypawitp it's not gtk either06:40
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jfrerichsya i have it that way06:40
Dragnslcrjfrerichs- if you have only a mouse (I have a mouse and keyboard), you'd only have one --connect06:40
jfrerichsyep i do06:40
jfrerichsshould i take out the --master06:41
DragnslcrYou can try06:41
jfrerichsand leave the --server06:41
intelikeyDatalanche i think there is a kde app... give me a sec.06:41
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intelikeykaffeine - versatile media player for KDE 306:42
intelikeykmplayer - media player for KDE06:42
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DatalancheYeah, I have those two06:42
intelikeykdemultimedia - multimedia apps from the official KDE release06:42
Dragnslcrjfrerichs- I know it took a while for me to get it working right. Try checking some of these pages: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=bluetooth&titlesearch=Titles06:42
intelikeykaboodle - light, embedded media player for KDE06:43
intelikeyDatalanche that's the one i'm thinking of  ^06:43
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Datalancheokay, I'll give it a look. Thanks!06:43
intelikeymay not be what you want but worth a shot06:43
baudthiefis there a way to rename "Remote share (blah) on blah" icons that appear on the desktop, or at least stop them from appearing on the desktop to begin with?06:44
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intelikeybaudthief unless it has changed, right click the desktop and you can configure it to display device icons as you like.06:44
jfrerichsthaanks il try looking at those pages ill get back to you thanks dragslcr06:44
intelikeysome all or none06:45
intelikeybaudthief and don't be a thief,  no one likes thieves.  :)06:46
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baudthiefintelikey: does it require a reboot to take effect?06:46
baudthiefBut i like theifing :\06:46
intelikeybaudthief no.06:46
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baudthiefintelikey: Then it's not working :p06:46
intelikeybaudthief this is not that M$ reboot os06:46
pawitpThe only thing linux need reboot for is the kernel06:46
intelikeyyou may have to umount the share   but not a reboot.06:46
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intelikeypawitp almost,06:47
pawitpintelikey: What else does it needs reboot for06:47
intelikeypawitp well kernel or some kernel related  "modules"  that can't be rmmod'd06:48
pawitpintelikey: That's kernel anyway, you're cheating!06:48
baudthiefintelikey: Umounted but still no effect, I disabled mouted/unmounted smb/nfs shares from appearing but they're still there06:48
pawitpbaudthief: Try relogin06:49
baudthiefnp06:49
intelikeybaudthief well that's the place.   look again.   if pawitp's sujestion doesn't do it...06:49
defcongnome or kde?06:50
intelikeydefcon blackbox !06:50
defcon;] 06:50
defconblackbox better than fluxbox?06:50
pawitp!kde06:50
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.06:50
intelikeyflux is a fork of black06:50
defconblackbox work well on ubuntu?06:50
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intelikeyyes it does.  but if you like kde you prolly wont think much of bb06:51
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pawitpAnd who likes the name "bubuntu"?06:51
jfrerichsDragslcr i have read most of those pages before how did you get yours to work06:51
fatibb is cool, but once you try fluxbox you won't want to bother hehe06:51
intelikeypawitp mark shuttelworth ?06:51
DragnslcrI dunno, I just kept trying stuff until it did06:52
jfrerichsk06:52
pawitpintelikey: You never know06:52
intelikeyfati i've used both.06:52
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Bicchibesides gnome/kde/xfce, are there any other desktops environments been supported?06:52
fatiintelikey: :O06:52
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intelikeyfati i like twm   but they broke it in  the  LTS release06:53
LetoAtreidesOk, an app I developed that works 100% in the 10 distros I tried, crashes X when I move the window in 7.04, how can I see what happened?06:53
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Daskreechintelikey: Why did it stop shipping?06:53
fatiintelikey: twm! that's hardcore06:53
intelikey"<Daskreech> intelikey: Why did it stop shipping?"   you totaly lost me.  ?06:53
DaskreechLetoAtreides: start X and it from a virtual terminal and write the error log to a file06:53
Daskreechintelikey: twm they stopped shipping it with X.org06:54
intelikeyfati and minimalist!06:54
Daskreech it used to ship with Xfree06:54
fatiintelikey: i used to use fluxbox primarily, and then i realized i had all this memory i wasn't using and it needed to go somewhere, so now i'm kde bound hehe06:54
pawitp!twm06:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about twm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:54
intelikeyDaskreech yeah i don't know why.06:54
intelikey!info twm06:54
ubotutwm: Tab window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-4build1 (feisty), package size 93 kB, installed size 284 kB06:54
hitmanWillyits when they went to the modular X...and ubuntu didn't bring in that module :P06:54
hitmanWillyim guessing06:55
intelikeyhitmanWilly you have that on good authority or is that a guess ?06:55
intelikeyshoot too late...06:55
DaskreechhitmanWilly: Hmm I'll look into that06:55
LetoAtreideswhat is the name of the meta package that installs build tools?06:55
hitmanWillyintelikey: still comes with it on gentoo06:55
Daskreech!b-e06:55
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:55
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hitmanWillyintelikey: at least with the monolithic version06:56
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LetoAtreidesanyone know?06:56
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Daskreech!b-e | LetoAtreides06:56
ubotuLetoAtreides: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)06:56
dr_willisLetoAtreides,  the bot just told ya :)06:56
LetoAtreidesI didnt ask that06:57
LetoAtreidesnot the Q I asked06:57
dr_willisits on that tips page06:57
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intelikeyhitmanWilly yeah.  but i'm thinking it's just a dependancy thing.  you can set it as a dep. for the meta package or not.  so it's distro choice.     "now i'm guessing"06:57
dr_willisits build-essentials or essential or extential06:57
hitmanWilly:)06:57
dr_willisor exponetial06:57
LetoAtreidesah ok I read the last parts of the bot msg and didnt realze it because that didnt apply06:57
dr_willisof course ya proberly need a lot of OTHER dev packages as well06:57
dr_willisdepending on what you are doing06:58
intelikeydr_willis exostentialism ?06:58
dr_willishmm !be used tobe different factoid06:58
dr_willisBuild-Exoskeleton06:58
dr_willis!build-esential06:58
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about build-esential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:58
LetoAtreidesyeah for some reason my app is not compiling, it doesnt find std::string06:58
dr_willis!find build06:58
ubotuFound: artsbuilder, build-essential, dh-buildinfo, libextutils-cbuilder-perl, libmodule-build-perl (and 43 others)06:58
dr_willis!find essential06:58
ubotuFound: build-essential06:58
LetoAtreidessomething is missing06:58
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dr_willisinstall build-essential  - if you have not allready done so06:59
intelikeyyou dropped one "s"    misspelled ^06:59
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hitmanWillycan you grep with the bo?06:59
hitmanWillybot*06:59
dr_willisBuild Exponetial = for fast growing projects. :)06:59
intelikeyno.  but it can search and will only display about five hits.06:59
intelikey@ hitmanWilly07:00
hitmanWillyso i see :)07:00
dr_willis!find porn07:00
ubotuFound: pornview07:00
dr_willis:)07:00
hitmanWillylol07:00
LetoAtreideshrm, nope, I think this version  of kubuntu is broken07:00
dr_willis!find elvis07:00
ubotuFound: elvis, elvis-common, elvis-console, elvis-tiny, elvis-tools07:00
hitmanWilly!info pornview07:00
ubotupornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-7 (feisty), package size 223 kB, installed size 664 kB07:00
intelikeyhitmanWilly also it strips escape chars. so you can't have much fun with it...07:00
hitmanWillyah, crap...07:01
intelikeyLetoAtreides ?07:01
LetoAtreidesyes?07:01
intelikeywhat error ?07:02
LetoAtreidesAn app I made that builds 100% in every distro (even 6.10) and runs perfectly in them as well, will NOT build or run in 7.0407:02
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Daskreech!pastebin | LetoAtreides07:03
ubotuLetoAtreides: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:03
intelikeyLetoAtreides sounds like something just not installed.    may we see the error ?07:04
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jwallingfordso there was no way for me to set a root password. The password it asks for on any administrative things is my users password. When I try and login as root my password does not work. Why is this? Is kubuntu's security different from other linux distros ive used or did i just miss something during installation?07:04
intelikey!root | jwallingford07:04
ubotujwallingford: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:04
Daskreechjwallingford: and yes you are right it is different07:05
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Daskreechjwallingford: root is disabled by default07:05
intelikeyjwallingford you can   sudo -i   for a root shell     you can set the root password with   sudo passwd        and you can read the page to learn all about it  ^07:05
baudthiefFound the cause of the video tearing :(07:05
dr_willisjwallingford,  you can set a actual root password. but its best to elarn to use the sudo system07:05
baudthiefseems as though I need to decide whether I want uber-smooth beryl effects, or smooth playing video07:05
dr_willisjwallingford,  ubuntu tries to keep things VERY SECURE by default07:06
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LetoAtreidesintelikey I pasted the build err07:06
LetoAtreidesthe runtime err I dont know, it kills X and KDE restarts07:06
dr_willisnight all07:06
intelikeyLetoAtreides url ?07:06
LetoAtreidesfor?07:06
LetoAtreideslook at like 2 of my comments up07:07
LetoAtreidesfor the build err07:07
jwallingfordok thank you guys... do you suggest i change the sudo password? Seems to me it would be more secure to have a different password for sudo07:07
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intelikey<LetoAtreides> intelikey I pasted the build err <<<< url please ?07:07
intelikey!paste | LetoAtreides07:08
ubotuLetoAtreides: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:08
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LetoAtreidesI pasted in chan, its just 1 line (its the same bulid err over and over) a link err really07:08
Daskreechjwallingford: to change your sudo password you change your password07:08
intelikeyoh i'll look again.07:08
Daskreechjwallingford: if you want to make it more secure make a better password and the enter system becomes more secure07:08
DaskreechLetoAtreides: We never got ti07:09
Daskreechit07:09
alakhiadoes anyone know where I can get GL/glut.h from?07:09
LetoAtreideshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23682/07:09
LetoAtreidesthats the jist of the build err07:09
intelikeylooking07:10
Daskreechalakhia: No. I'm guessing freeglut-dev07:10
LetoAtreidesabout 3000 lines of that, every place I have an std::string07:10
Daskreech!find freeglut07:10
ubotuFound: freeglut3, freeglut3-dbg, freeglut3-dev07:10
Daskreech!info freeglut3-dev07:10
ubotufreeglut3-dev: OpenGL Utility Toolkit development files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.0-5 (feisty), package size 151 kB, installed size 584 kB07:10
intelikeyLetoAtreides maybe    libstdc++6-dev - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (development files)07:10
Daskreechalakhia: try freeglut3-dev07:11
Daskreechalakhia: or glutg3-dev07:11
alakhiaDaskreech: Yes, that was it ... freeglut3-dev! Thanks!07:11
Daskreechcool07:11
alakhiaDaskreech: :-)07:11
LetoAtreidesintellikey still same err07:11
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LetoAtreidesare you on 7.04 intelikey?07:12
LetoAtreidesbrb  (maybe) going to try and run an older bulid07:13
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intelikeyLetoAtreides no i'm not.07:14
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Daskreechintelikey: you should be able to /media from the command line :(07:14
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LetoAtreidesOk that crashed too07:14
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LetoAtreidesis anyone on 7.04 that is willing to run my app and see if its just me that crashes?07:15
intelikeyDaskreech ?07:16
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LetoAtreidesdamn07:19
intelikeyLetoAtreides i still think that's a lib missing.  but can't find which.07:19
LetoAtreideshow would that crash X?07:19
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intelikeyuncle google "undefined reference to `std:" might find it.07:20
LetoAtreidesare you on 7.04 ?  if so www.rpgds.com is where my dl is07:20
LetoAtreidesI tried that07:20
intelikeynot sure how it would crash X,     and no i'm not but i have seen that error before.07:20
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LetoAtreideswell thats the bulid err, crashing X might be resated07:21
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intelikeyor related even07:21
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LetoAtreidessorry dvorak, still learning :)07:22
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intelikey<--- typo king.   no need to aplogiZe07:24
jwallingfordok im having issues with this. this is the link givin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu, however this is for an old version of kubuntu. I have a newer one and mine looks nothing like what is on this page. I have 7.0407:26
Daskreechintelikey: I'm playing some songs from ogg123 but I can't share them with the world :(07:26
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intelikeyDaskreech i'm sorry.07:26
intelikeyyou wanting to streem them or export them or what ?07:27
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DaskreechJust wanted to do that :)07:29
Stratyssup peeps07:29
hitmanWillywhats the deal with dvorak keyboards anyway? is it supposed to be faster or what?07:29
StratysI have a question about DeVeDe07:30
LetoAtreidesmore natural layout07:30
intelikeyjwallingford did you hit the 7.04 link on that page ?07:30
jwallingfordi didnt see one07:30
intelikeyit's there.07:30
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jwallingfordoh haha i found it07:30
jwallingfordright up top where i wasnt looking07:31
jwallingfordsorry for the dumb question07:31
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intelikeyjwallingford i'm not sure that will get you going tho.    if you need help with the repos.  check back in here.07:32
hitmanWillyjwallingford: don't worry about it, this is #kubuntu, we embrace dumb questions here :P07:32
Nukedheh hitmanWilly07:32
intelikeydo we ?07:32
intelikeyoh you mean like that one....  duh.07:32
hitmanWillymore so than any other linux channel i know07:32
DaskreechhitmanWilly: if they took a bath07:32
Nukedheres one hitmanWilly how do i turn off those darn kde sounds07:32
NukedDaskreech: occasionallz07:32
Nukedz07:32
Nukedy07:33
Nukeddepends on the phases of the mood07:33
Nukedn07:33
hitmanWillyNuked: its in kcontrol, under sound sytem, just uncheck enable sound system07:33
Nukedsorrz07:33
Nukedyou misunderstood07:33
intelikeyno   it's system sounds.  not sound system.07:33
hitmanWillymeh...whatever :P07:33
jwallingfordok i see how to add links to repositories but what i am looking for is a list of repositories. I just want to be able to install the newest (non beta) releases of all software available07:34
jwallingfordfor instance i want codecs, and i would like a later version of thunderbird than 1.507:34
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NukedI meant hitmanWilly that was supposed to be one of the "dumb" questions07:34
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hitmanWillyNuked: oh, duh...07:35
StratysI am converting avi's to dvd with DeVeDe07:35
Stratysvideo works great07:35
Stratysbut the sound is highly distorted07:35
Stratysany ideas?07:35
hitmanWillyjwallingford: you may want to check out the seveas repo....it seems to be pretty popular07:35
hitmanWilly!seveas | jwallingford07:36
ubotujwallingford: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages07:36
NukedhitmanWilly: which do you prefer from the GUI clients... konversation, or xchat (or other)07:36
hitmanWillyNuked: kvirc when im in a gui07:36
intelikeyjwallingford "would like a later version" may not be a realistic goal.  but there have been sever repos lists posted on the web.    basicly     deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main universe multiverse restricted        and repete for security and updates listings.07:36
hitmanWillyNuked: irssi otherwise :)07:37
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intelikeysever repos lists == several listings.07:37
Nukedbe back in a bit07:37
hitmanWillyk07:37
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intelikey!worksforme | jwallingford07:38
ubotujwallingford: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.07:38
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intelikeyDaskreech i thought that script was taboo in here ?07:39
titanix88hendaus: i'm back.07:39
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Daskreechjwallingford: What version of Kubuntu are you using?07:39
intelikeyfeisty07:39
Daskreechintelikey: I think it was voodoo :)07:39
intelikeyvoodoo is taboo ?07:40
Daskreechthunderbird is 1.5 in feisty? That sucks07:40
arunhey people.. i want to format my hard drive completely.. it has windows xp installed on it right now, but i want to delete every thing on the drive.. clean it07:40
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Daskreech!easysource | jwallingford07:40
ubotujwallingford: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:40
aruncan i format it by running a ubuntu live cd07:40
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arunand formatting my c drive from konsole07:40
DaskreechSure why not07:40
arunDaskreech: how do i do that? what command?07:40
intelikeyarun yes you can.07:40
intelikeyarun the install process will give an option to use the whole disk07:41
Daskreechqtparted07:41
arunintelikey: i dont want to install kubuntu on it, i just want to clean the hard drive07:41
jwallingford7.04 Daskreech07:41
Stratysany help on my ??07:42
premier_hello, I'm having trouble with beryl... kdesktop seems to conflict with beryl07:42
aruncan i run the live cd and delete everything on the hard drive through a konsole command?07:42
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Daskreecharun: sure sudo fdisk07:42
intelikeyarun dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<your_hd>         maybe hda ?07:42
arunwhich one should i use? :)07:42
intelikeyif you are really looking to wipe it clean    dd07:42
arunok07:43
pollyoDoesn't fdisk simply clear the partition table?07:43
intelikeyif you just want to redo the partition table   cfdisk07:43
hitmanWillyarun: mkfs is what i would reccommend, but that's just me07:43
jwallingfordok so is Ubuntu backports project all stable released software or non stable (beta) softwares?07:43
intelikeypollyo yes.07:43
arunonce i wipe it clean, i can still boot from a cd right07:43
Daskreech!info mozilla-thunderbiird gutsy07:43
hitmanWillyarun: yes, should be able to07:43
premier_!beryl07:43
ubotuPackage mozilla-thunderbiird does not exist in gutsy07:43
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects07:43
arunhitmanWilly: thanks.. what does mkfs do?07:43
intelikeyarun should be able to.  if you can't there is something really screwy07:43
premier_!thunderbird07:43
ubotua FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6042707:43
hitmanWillyarun: similar to the dos format cmd07:44
Daskreechpremier_: asked in #beryl ?07:44
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arunwell, i am wiping it clean for a friend.. he's using a vaio, it seems like a strange machine07:44
premier_Daskreech: over and over again07:44
intelikeyarun mkfs = make file system.      kinda like  format.com  in that other os07:44
hitmanWillyarun: they are07:44
DaskreechWhat? arun that kinda makes no sense :)07:44
arunhe asked me to re-install windows for him, but apparently vaios dont boot from cds (unless it's from the manufacturer)07:44
Daskreechpremier_: and #ubuntu-effects though it's the same folks :)07:44
hitmanWillyDaskreech: vaio's are weird like that07:45
arunarun: what he told me is, instead of booting from the cd directly, first clean the hard disk and then try booting07:45
arunso i want to clean it first07:45
Daskreecharun: ha ha :) How are you going to use the live CD then ?07:45
arunarun: according to him, if there's no OS installed, it boots from the live cd07:45
hitmanWillyim just surprised they don't complete with a preinstalled rootkit :P07:45
aruneven though CDs are first in the boot swquence07:45
Daskreecharun: try pressing F11 or F12 at the bboot up sequence07:46
arunDaskreech: i did, nothing works07:46
hitmanWillys/complete/come07:46
hitmanWillyarun: del maybe?07:46
intelikeyhitmanWilly they do come with a root kit installed don't they ?07:46
hitmanWillyi don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me07:47
Daskreechintelikey: only if you took the optional music07:47
LetoAtreidesHrmmm doing more research, its not all STD:: types, just string and a couple others because cout and friends work fine07:47
intelikeyoh07:47
arunok i'm trying the live cd now, and your command intelikey07:47
arunhere goes nothing :)07:47
Stratysdoes anyone know a good program to convert avi to dvd?07:47
premier_Daskreech: I'm running out of ideas... none of the places I usually go for help are working07:47
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premier_Daskreech: should I file a bug report or something?07:47
Daskreechpremier_: what does the --replace commands give you ?07:48
titanix88arun: F8 works for me.07:48
Daskreechor the beryl-manager ?07:48
premier_ Daskreech: it doesn't seem to change anything07:48
premier_Daskreech: beryl-manager starts automatically when I boot07:48
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premier_Daskreech: but it doesn't start beryl for some reason07:48
Daskreechpremier_: it has a menu option to jump to optional WM07:48
Daskreechpremier_: what is it set to?07:49
titanix88premier_: maybe not configured Xgl.07:49
LetoAtreidesThis code (basic hello world) will give me that err btw07:49
LetoAtreideshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23684/07:49
premier_Daskreech: I wasn't running for some reason... anyway, its set to kwine07:49
aruni'm planning to buy a macbook soon.. do you guys think it's a good idea07:50
premier_titanix88: how can I be sure?  I know I'm running Xgl07:50
LetoAtreidesif anyone on 7.0.4  cares to compile it07:50
premier_whats the linux support for intel based macs?  Have they fixed it yet?07:50
Daskreechpremier_: switch it to beryl and see what it does07:50
LetoAtreidesintelikey: look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23684/ it wont compile07:51
premier_Daskreech: well, it refreshes something, but nothing comes of it... I'm still in kwin07:51
intelikeyyeah just did.07:51
arunthe vaio loaded the kubuntu live cd, but didnt boot the windows cd07:51
titanix88premier_ start beryl from cmd line.07:51
arunweird07:51
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DaskreechIs the windows Cd bootable?07:52
intelikeyLetoAtreides and you do have "build-essential" installed.   just dubble checking...07:52
LetoAtreidesintelikey: if you comment out the string part and still use the STD::cout, it will compile fine07:52
LetoAtreidesyes07:52
titanix88arun: linux got better support for hardware :) !07:52
intelikeyhmmmm07:52
LetoAtreidesit finds the lib that std is in, but that lib is missing vital parts07:53
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premier_titanix88: it always says "beryl: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0"07:53
arunDaskreech: it is07:53
premier_titanix88: it also breaks something... I'm not able to use any window after typing "beryl" into the command line... I have to reload kde from the beryl manager icon07:54
intelikeyLetoAtreides file a bug !07:54
intelikey!bug07:54
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots07:54
LetoAtreidesintelikey: I will, but it means until its fixed I can use this07:55
intelikeyLetoAtreides i know,07:55
LetoAtreidesand all my end users cant use my software07:55
intelikeyLetoAtreides i can't change that tho.07:55
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LetoAtreidesyeah I know...07:55
premier_hey, when I select text in the konsole, recently its been making the selected portion black-on-black... I use white on black text in konsole07:56
titanix88premier_:settings->schema07:57
intelikeyLetoAtreides what was that dl url again ?  and is the source there ?07:57
LetoAtreidesno source, but the dl url is www.rpgds.com07:58
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intelikeypremier_ that can be set in the konsole menu in two places in settings.07:58
LetoAtreidesI know its linked to that src I pasted not compiling07:58
intelikeyeither a schema or specifically setting that colour.07:59
arunintelikey: i tried your method, it says directory /dev/zero/ does not exist07:59
intelikeyLetoAtreides k.07:59
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intelikeyarun i didn't say /dev/zero/     dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda     (assuming hda)08:00
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arunah ok08:00
arunsorry08:00
arunadded the slash by mistake08:00
hitmanWillyok, see y'all later...sleep now, work tommorrow08:01
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arunintelikey: it says permission denied08:01
LetoAtreidesintelikey: wouldnt you know it, the bug system is offline right now08:02
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LetoAtreideslol its back, that was scary08:02
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intelikeythat command will write zeros until the "of=" is full.   i.e. the whole disk will be over writen with "goose eggs"   MBR and all.       and nothing will let you write to the hd without   "root" permissions.  i.e.  sudo command....08:03
intelikey@ arun  ^08:03
intelikeysorry i'm lagging right now. and my posts may seem incohearant for a little while.08:04
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arunso i should sudo dd ?08:05
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arunok did that08:06
arunsomething happened08:06
arunxxxx records in08:06
arunxxxxx records out08:06
aruni'm assuming that was supposed to happen?08:06
LetoAtreidesintelikey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11833808:07
intelikeyprobably too quick.  arun.  what was the number ?08:07
intelikeyLetoAtreides k.08:07
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parepakisslanghello. is pidgin already available on synaptic/apt? i want to replace gaim w/o hassles.08:07
intelikeyLetoAtreides and thank you for the report there.08:08
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intelikey!find pidgin08:08
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ubotuPackage/file pidgin does not exist in feisty08:08
LetoAtreidesGonna install a different Linux, I hope this gets fixed soon!08:09
parepakisslangoic. thanks ubotu and intelikey08:09
arun1033449+0 records in and out08:09
arunintelikey ^08:09
intelikeyLetoAtreides me too.08:10
intelikeyLetoAtreides and good luck with the new distro/version.08:10
Daskreech!info pidgin gutsy08:10
ubotupidgin: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+dfsg.1-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1766 kB, installed size 4972 kB08:10
intelikeyarun then that should be about right.   small disk ?08:10
arun30gb i think08:11
|lostbyte|!info graphics.h08:11
ubotuPackage graphics.h does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas08:11
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Daskreech|lostbyte|: Hmm?08:11
arunintelikey: so it's wiped clean?08:11
|lostbyte|Daisuke_Ido, i want to know why graphics.h is missing from my includes..08:12
intelikeyarun that was only about   504m08:12
intelikeyarun you didn't add a number on the /dev/hda   did you ?08:12
arunintelikey: so what do i do then08:12
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arunintelikey: nope08:12
intelikeyhmmmm.08:12
butihi08:12
intelikeywell you can run "sudo cfdisk " now and see what it does.  arun08:13
arunintelikey: ok hold on08:13
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arunintelikey: fatal error, cannot get disk size08:14
butiata has changed from kernel 2.6.20-15 to 2.6.20-1608:14
intelikeyarun if it finds partitions you didn't blank it. (stating the obvious)08:14
butinow my noteboook won't wake up from standby08:14
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arunintelikey: it returns a 'FATAL ERROR: cannot get disk size'08:15
butimy disk was detected as sda on 2.6.20-15, now it's back to hda.08:15
intelikeyarun mmmm   add the device node.      sudo cfdisk /dev/<disk>      i assumed hda08:15
butican someone help me fix this?08:15
arunok08:15
intelikeybuti fix ?   what do you want it to be ?08:16
arunintelikey: same08:16
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Daskreech!find graphics.h08:16
butiintelikey: i want it to go back to sda. the pata driver works much better08:16
ubotuFile graphics.h found in liballegro4.2-dev, libhippocanvas-dev, libmpich-mpd1.0-dev, libmpich-shmem1.0-dev, libmpich1.0-dev (and 5 others)08:16
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butiintelikey: at least it makes my laptop wake up08:17
intelikeyarun what does    sudo fdisk -l     tell us ?08:17
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Stratysanyone know why I get shitty audio when i use DeVeDe for my encoding?08:17
intelikeybuti ok you need to enable scsi emulation for all hd's    i think that can be done in the initramfs.img   but you need to google it.08:18
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Daskreech!language | Stratys08:18
ubotuStratys: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:18
butiintelikey: ok, that's a hint, thanks08:18
intelikeybuti knoppix is well known for using scsi emulation    you can check what they do...08:18
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Stratyssorry bout that but at least someone or thing acknowledged me08:19
butiintelikey: interestingly ubuntu kernel 2.6.20-15 did use scsi. i'll first check what they did ;-)08:19
intelikeybuti yes they did.  i think it has caused more problems than it fixed though.08:20
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butiintelikey: so just for me it's a regression08:20
DaskreechWhat's DevDe?08:20
intelikeyyeah08:21
Stratysit is an encoder program08:21
butiintelikey: if it's hda, then there is a patch for my laptop on launchpad, that fixes wake-up by reseting ide in the ide driver08:21
Stratyschanging avi's to mpg or dvd's08:21
intelikey!info devede08:21
ubotudevede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.9-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 449 kB, installed size 1060 kB08:21
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intelikeybuti cool.  and you won't need scsi emulation with that...08:23
arunintelikey: could i run the kubuntu installer get to the part about formatting everything and then exit before installing kubuntu08:23
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butino08:23
butiintelikey: but it didn't find its way into the kernel08:23
butiintelikey: i put it up quite some time ago08:23
pawitpCan I use kdevelop for php programming or there is a better ide?08:23
intelikeyarun you can.  but i'm not sure it will format to vfat  or ntfs arun08:24
LetoAtreidespawitp: bsuefish or something like that08:24
butiintelikey: maybe it isn't pretty... i'm not a real kernel hacker :-p08:24
LetoAtreidesblue*08:24
pawitp!info bluefish08:24
ubotubluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.7-1 (feisty), package size 1570 kB, installed size 6724 kB08:24
pawitp1. That's Gtk+, 2. It's html08:24
LetoAtreidesI used it for php too, its got syntax hilite08:25
LetoAtreideswhats wrong with GTK (besides its ugly) ?08:25
pawitpLetoAtrides: Ugly08:25
intelikeykate has syntax highlighting08:25
pawitpintelikey: Then kdevelop should too08:25
dregorthis kdevelop good for python programming or is there a better one? :/08:25
intelikeyvim has syntax highlighting08:25
LetoAtreideskate uses sessions ugg08:26
Daskreech!info quanta08:26
ubotuquanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 5728 kB08:26
pawitpYou can write anything with kdevelop then08:26
intelikey!kdevelop08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:26
intelikey!info kdevelop08:26
ubotukdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 8594 kB, installed size 26204 kB08:26
Daskreech!IDE08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:26
Daskreech!develop08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about develop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:26
Daskreech!development08:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:26
pawitp!find develop08:27
ubotuFound: developers-reference, developers-reference-fr, egroupware-developer-tools, firefox-webdeveloper, harden-development (and 18 others)08:27
LetoAtreidesyeah, but its setup as  C++ ide, you can use it for project management though08:27
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intelikeystrick three your out Daskreech08:27
Daskreechintelikey: there is one that list out webdev IDEs08:27
jussi01!eclipse08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
LetoAtreidesewww08:28
jussi01!info eclipse08:28
ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 124 kB, installed size 412 kB08:28
intelikey!html08:28
ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com08:28
intelikeyDaskreech that one ?08:28
LetoAtreidesnvu is BAD for php08:28
DaskreechCould have sworn it had kdevelop in there08:28
dregorth!python08:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:28
Mach3 how can i (or can i) access files on a second harddrive (ntfs) in k/ubuntu.. for example, play media files from my windows drive?08:28
LetoAtreidesit has a habit of re arranging your code and deleting what it doesnt like08:29
pawitpMach3: look in media:/08:29
intelikeyDaskreech it probably did.  "someone" keeps shortening the infonodes...08:29
Mach3pawitp: i only see cdrom and floppy08:29
intelikey!ntfs | Mach308:29
ubotuMach3: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse08:29
intelikey!ntfs-3g | Mach308:30
ubotuMach3: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions08:30
pawitpI can't actually remember since the last time I access ntfs was ages ago08:30
arunintelikey: i think drive name is sda108:30
aruntried using dd on that, is taking time which means it;s working i think08:31
intelikeyright there is a classic example of the infonode no longer being affective.  ^   the !ntfs says see !ntfs-3g   but -3g is carbon copy...08:31
intelikeyarun not sda1.   sda  would be the drive.08:31
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intelikeyarun sda1 would be the first partition on the drive.08:32
arunintelikey: oh08:32
Daskreechintelikey: like ! mount08:32
aruni gave the command for sda108:32
arunis that a big problem08:32
intelikeyno.08:32
Daskreechhe made a partition ?08:32
intelikeyjust redo it with sda.08:32
intelikeyDaskreech he blanked hda  not sda08:33
Daskreechah08:33
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intelikeyi don't know why it found 500m of disk space at hda .....08:33
intelikeythat is probably where the rootkit lived08:34
skiffhey when I try to add my LAN printer I get the following msg saying that port 631 will be opened and cupsys user (system user, not created by me) might be exploitable for an attack, how do I prevent that from happening and how do I secure all the other system users ?08:34
arunintelikey: so what if i blanked the rootkit?08:34
arunwht happens now08:35
intelikeyarun hopefully you have a liberated system...  :)        root kit is eval08:35
intelikeylike  "trusted computing group"08:36
arunhaha nice08:36
Daskreechskiff: it's just opening a port08:36
Daskreechskiff: By default ubuntu has no ports opened so It's letting you know one is open now08:37
skiffDaskreech, ok and if that port is open, how can one gain access to anything?08:37
Daskreechintelikey: could just be a system partition08:37
arunintelikey: doing it with sda now08:37
arunhow much time does it tkae08:37
skiffDaskreech, only if they know root or user passwords correct?08:37
Daskreechskiff: your printer can gain access08:37
Daskreechskiff: right08:37
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Daskreechskiff: You can see it by going to localhost:63108:38
intelikeyarun mmm 30g about 10 minutes maybe08:38
DaskreechIt runs a little website08:38
intelikeyor longer...08:38
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skiffDaskreech, thanks, how can I see other open ports ?08:38
arunintelikey: ok cool, thank you so much08:38
intelikeyarun not at all...08:39
Daskreechskiff: hmm I think there is an easy gui way but the way I use is nmap08:39
tahsinHOw do i install beryl themes ?08:39
intelikeyskiff nmapfe08:39
intelikeyDaskreech nmapfe ?08:40
Daskreechsure why not :)08:41
tahsinintelikey: how do i install beryl themes ?08:41
Daskreechtahsin: ask in #ubuntu-effects08:41
intelikey!beryl > tahsin08:41
skiffDaskreech and intelikey thank you08:41
intelikeysorry i don't use nor support beryl08:41
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Nathandoes anyone know why my spell check in opn office dosent work?08:42
DaskreechNathan: is it on?08:42
skiffbtw whats the difference btwn nmap and nmapfe?08:43
Nathanyes08:43
tahsinintelikey: how do i install KBFX ?08:43
intelikeyskiff you should see the reaction when i go into ##windows and ask what a firewall is and what does anti-virus mean    lol08:43
Daskreech!info nmapfe08:43
ubotunmapfe: The Network Mapper Front End. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 104 kB, installed size 228 kB08:43
skiffintelikey, :)08:43
skiff!info nmap08:43
ubotunmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB08:43
intelikeytahsin i don't know where did you find it ?08:44
tahsinintelikey: Kbfx themes in kde-look.org08:44
intelikeytahsin it's not in the standard repos.08:44
intelikeyoh wait yes it is.08:44
intelikeysudo apt-get install kbfx kubuntu-artwork-kbfx08:45
tahsinthanks08:45
intelikeyif you want the artwork also....08:45
intelikeyelse you can drop that part.08:45
tahsinthanks08:45
intelikeynp08:45
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tahsinintelikey: why is it in the lost & found section ?08:46
intelikeyexplain ?08:46
tahsinintelikey: nothing let me try it08:47
pawitpI really need more screen estate08:47
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intelikeyDaskreech you'll think i'm crazy (as if you didn't already)  but i read the package list + description one time....    some of it i can remember.08:48
DaskreechYeah I dumped it to a text file and went through it08:49
intelikeyhuge aint it!08:49
DaskreechYeah I had to delete it to get space08:50
intelikey:)08:50
intelikeyon a system running on floppy disks maybe...08:51
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DaskreechNo on a system that had a huge number of test ISOs on it08:51
Nathan:S no matter how i spell a word spell check never picks it up as wrong08:52
tahsinintelikey: im trying to change the start button with kbfx but its not changeing08:52
intelikeyoh.   well i consider a text file to be huge when -h starts listing m in place of k08:52
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intelikeytahsin never seen it.   if you can't post me an error message i can't even guess at what to do...    restarting X might help....08:53
Nathananyone know how to put spellchek on08:53
tahsinintelikey: thanks anyways i restarted X but without luck08:54
intelikeyon what Nathan ?08:54
arunanyone here use a mac?08:54
Nathanopenword08:54
Nathanopenoffice.org word08:54
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intelikeyNathan hmmm no.  sorry.  but i would search through it's menus  i'm pretty sure it's in the settings08:55
Nathani did08:55
Nathanit dosent work08:55
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DaskreechNathan: ask in #openoffice.org-users08:55
Nathani thought linux was going to work better than windows......08:55
skiffDaskreech, well it opened 631 automatically, but it doesnt close it if I uncheck the option, how can i clsoe it manually?08:55
DaskreechYes it's a really long chan name I know08:55
Daskreechskiff: probably shut down cups08:56
NathanDaskreech: no one is there08:56
pawitpDaskreech: Shutdown cups and you can't print then08:56
DaskreechNathan: ask in #openoffice.org :-)08:56
skiffDaskreech, how do I do that lol sorry for silly questions08:56
Daskreechpawitp: hey he asked :)08:56
Daskreechskiff: again there is probably an easy GUI way08:57
NathanDaskreech: thanks08:57
Daskreechskiff: You can type sudo /etc/init.d/cups stop08:57
skiffDaskreech, thanks08:57
intelikeycupsys ^08:57
Daskreechskiff: You can type sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop08:57
Daskreechyeah just picked up on that too08:57
Daskreechintelikey: Fun fact in System Settings you can start the printer server you can restart it but you can't stop it08:59
intelikey:)08:59
pawitpUsability bug?09:00
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intelikeyyes i remember that.   haven't used it a long time.  foomatic database is hosed in dapper so i can't install a printer.09:00
Daskreechpawitp: No that's a Functional bug :)09:00
pawitpI hate bug report system09:00
Tm_Konviplop09:00
intelikeycontrol bug.09:01
arunintelikey: not cleaned the drive yt09:01
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arunintelikey: is it taking more time coz it's a live cd09:01
arunbtw, sda1 + sda2 = 90GB09:01
Daskreecharun: yes but only by like 2 seconds09:01
arunbut there's nothing on sda209:02
intelikeyif you are wiping sda  there is no more sda#  they are all gone.  and the 90g is the size of the disk.   so 30 minutes maybe.09:02
Nathanthere is no one in the openoffice channel09:04
intelikeyno one in a channel but you means probably a typo in the name.09:05
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Nathanintelikey: there are people09:05
Nathanthey dont talk09:05
intelikeyoh.09:06
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Nathanhuh09:07
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Nathan....09:07
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Nathanwhat are u on about mate?09:07
intelikeynothing   it was just a gouge.09:07
DaskreechHa ha :-)09:07
DaskreechNathan: I actually remember hearing this complaint before and I know it was something stupid09:08
Nathank09:08
Nathanwell its not stupid by my part09:08
dogatemycomputerwhat's the complaint?  I was away from the keyboard trying to fix a broken windows machine.09:09
Nathanunless they have a secret options part seperate from the normal options09:09
DaskreechNathan: no it's was a setting that seemed to be named really badly I think09:09
Nathanmy spellcheck dosent work09:09
NathanDaskreech:k i'll keep looking09:09
dogatemycomputerNathan: in open office? or somewhere else?09:10
intelikey!spell09:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:10
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intelikeydogatemycomputer yes09:10
Daskreechdogatemycomputer: open office09:10
Nathanyeah openoffice09:10
dogatemycomputerNathan: there is something else you need to install.09:10
Nathank09:11
Nathanwhats that?09:11
dogatemycomputerNathan: I just fixed mine at home.. i'm on a newly built linux box so let me fix it on here ;)09:11
dogatemycomputerNathan: then i'll pass along the knowledge.09:11
Nathanlol k thanks09:11
intelikeymyspell ?  aspell ?   ispell ?    pspell ?09:11
dogatemycomputerintelikey: that sounds right.. one of those..09:11
dogatemycomputerintelikey: I fixed it by accident last time.09:11
intelikeyyou smell i smell we smell they smell  ?09:11
Daskreechpspell :)09:11
DaskreechAs a total aside I think I'm going to use kmymoney to do my accounting from now on09:12
Daskreech it looks pretty good09:12
Daskreechas in visually09:12
Daskreech but I get that Krecipe vibe from it09:12
Daskreech- GHNS09:12
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intelikey!info kmymoney09:12
ubotuPackage kmymoney does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas09:12
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Daskreech!info kmymoney209:13
ubotukmymoney2: personal finance manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 6680 kB, installed size 13200 kB09:13
dogatemycomputerNathan: okay.. for some reason its working fine on this installation so I suspect the problem is with the Kubuntu installation of OOO.09:13
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dogatemycomputerNathan: in that case.. I have a solution that I know works..09:13
Nathank09:13
dogatemycomputerNathan: do you know how to uninstall OpenOffice using Adept?09:13
Nathanyeah09:13
Nathani am on dial-up tho09:14
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Nathanwill i need to download it?09:14
dogatemycomputerNathan: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/23/installing-using-an-rpm-file/09:14
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intelikeyDaskreech chapter 11    hmmm gov artical ?09:14
dogatemycomputerNathan: yeah.. the installation that comes with Kubuntu is screwed up.  You need to unintall it then download OpenOffice and install directly from the source.09:14
Daskreech:-)09:14
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dogatemycomputerNathan: honestly.. if its important then i'll be happy to send you a CD assuming your domestic?09:15
dogatemycomputerNathan: where do you live?09:15
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Nathannah its ok09:15
Nathani live in perth09:15
Nathanaustralia09:15
Nathanit'll be too late then09:15
dogatemycomputerNathan: i'm sorry dude..09:15
dogatemycomputerhold on though.. let me see if I can't find another solution.09:15
arunintelikey: still goin on09:16
arunabt 20 minutes now09:16
Daskreechdogatemycomputer: take a look on the forums09:16
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dogatemycomputerNathan: how about this one?  not sure if its a fix but you could try it:09:17
dogatemycomputerNathan: sudo apt-get install myspell-en-us09:17
dogatemycomputerNathan: of course replace "myspell-en-us" with your appropriate language dictionary.. but you get the point..09:17
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Nathanwhat is the uk one?09:19
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Nathanor australian one09:19
dogatemycomputeren-au09:19
dogatemycomputermyspell-en-au09:19
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miodekHi all109:20
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Daskreechyoyo09:21
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dogatemycomputerNathan: how fast (or slow) is your dialup connection?09:21
Nathanvery slow09:22
Nathanlol09:22
dogatemycomputerNathan: 28k?09:22
intelikeyarun arun count will be in the  "188743680" range.09:22
Nathanyeah09:22
Red_Tearhey ppl... got a problem, i cant play Movies from DVD... i think there is just some package missing or so but i dont know what09:22
dogatemycomputerNathan: if you say anything slower then i'll just suggest suicide by screwdriver..09:22
intelikey!dvd09:22
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs09:22
dogatemycomputerNathan: in that case it should take you about 5 mins to download it.. so that's not horrible..09:22
Red_Tearthanks09:23
Nathank09:23
Nathanit says 37meg tho09:23
Nathanthat will take 5 hours09:23
intelikeythat will take at least 509:23
dogatemycomputerNathan: ahhh.. the dependencies..09:24
intelikeyat least apt does continue.09:24
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Nathanits working now09:24
DaskreechNathan: what is it downloading?09:24
Nathanthere was no au definitoion09:24
dogatemycomputerDaskreech: myspell-en-au09:24
Nathanyeah09:24
Nathanthanks guys09:25
intelikeywell there you go.  locales failed you....  it should have depended on that if that's your locales09:25
dogatemycomputerNathan: no worries.. just glad to see you've left the evil empire..09:25
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intelikeyqueensland ?09:26
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intelikeyoh.   never mind.09:26
dogatemycomputerintelikey: does it automatically grab the correct lang dictionary when you install kubuntu?09:26
dogatemycomputerintelikey: hahahhahahahaha09:26
dogatemycomputerintelikey: Seattle.09:26
Nathandogatemycomputer:i odnt think it does09:26
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Nathanit never got au for me09:26
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Nathanjust us i tink09:27
pablo__:)09:27
intelikeydogatemycomputer after you choose your locale in the setup it's supposed to depend on the propper i18's and such  yes.09:27
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Nathanhmm its still not 100%09:28
dogatemycomputerintelikey: well.. if he's on dialup then i would be suprised if it just went out and tried downloading 100+MB..09:29
Nathanit says that jail is correct09:29
Nathanwhen its goal here09:29
Nathanor something09:29
Daskreech:-)09:29
dogatemycomputerNathan: Patience! <--obi-wan09:29
Nathanlol09:30
Daskreechdogatemycomputer: can he wget just the lang deb ?09:30
intelikeydogatemycomputer don't be surprised.  it does.   i can say   apt-get blah and it will say things like  350 mb of archives need to be installed...09:30
Nathanits working now09:30
Solarushey guys09:30
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Solarusis there any better irc clients for windows vista other than mirc?09:30
Nathanjust it wont seperate whats right in au from whats right in us09:30
dogatemycomputerintelikey: that doesn't suprise me.. but if he's never TOLD it to download the dictionary.. then would it just go get it automatically?09:31
dogatemycomputerSolarus: linux09:31
dogatemycomputerSolarus: in all seriousness though.. I liked virc back in the day.. but I don't know if its even still available.09:31
MaTiAzI moved to HydraIRC from mirc09:32
dogatemycomputerSolarus: there is no good irc client for windows though..09:32
MaTiAzAnd then I went over to irssi via SSH :)09:32
Nathanoh its ok now09:32
Nathanlol09:32
dogatemycomputerMaTiAz: yeah.. that's what I did..09:32
intelikeydogatemycomputer yes if he installs oo (which he did) then it depends on myspell (which it did) and that should depend on the proper locale dict (which it didn't)   so there is a packaging issue there.09:32
arunintelikey: when is it going to show the count! :)09:32
dogatemycomputerintelikey: but he didn't?  it just came with the installation of kubuntu..09:33
intelikeyarun heh  oh  at the end.09:33
DaskreechBloody hell!09:33
arunintelikey: the end seems nowhere in sight09:33
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DaskreechIt's raining all out outside09:33
intelikeydogatemycomputer openoffice comes with kubuntu ?   sense when ?09:33
arunit doesn't even show you % done09:33
dogatemycomputerintelikey: i don't know.. 7.04 live CD?09:33
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jinnyhello!09:34
dogatemycomputerintelikey: I have to uninstall OpenOffice so I can download and reinstasll it from openoffice.org.09:34
jinnyI have a question09:34
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jinnyI want to play some games on Linux but they don't work on Linux..09:34
intelikeyarun you can detect disk activity    no?     it will finish...   give it time.  you are blanking the whole 90 g   remember.  not just deleting files but writing zeros to every sector.09:35
jinnyhow can I play those games for Win on linux?09:35
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intelikeyarun that is not only a good security and safty measure it's also a very affective disk test, as well as virus removal.09:36
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vencaahoj :) Is there sb who could give me an advice? Where can I edit configuration for system start? For example graphic/text mode etc ....09:37
intelikeydogatemycomputer did you install from "ubuntu" live  or "kubuntu" live ?09:37
dogatemycomputerintelikey: kubuntu live.. and yes.. it does include Kubuntu's version of openoffice..09:37
dogatemycomputerintelikey: it looks like its a slightly modified version.. probably some artwork changes somewhere..09:38
intelikeyvenca man update-rc.d09:38
dogatemycomputerintelikey: check distrowatch.. it appears to have been inclueded as far back as Hoary..09:38
vencaintelikey thanks09:38
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crdlbanthony broke off from the other servers09:39
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intelikeydogatemycomputer no.  i have hoary and dapper.   don't think i've ever seen oo tho09:39
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dogatemycomputer!wine | jinny09:39
ubotujinny: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.09:39
pawitpDid a netsplit/netjoin just happened?09:39
DaskreechYeah09:39
intelikeyand that net split is likely to get my connection...09:39
dogatemycomputerintelikey: well.. it was on this laptop that I installed using the live CD from kubuntu.com .. and it was included on every other installation that i've done recently..09:40
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dogatemycomputerintelikey: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kubuntu09:40
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dogatemycomputerintelikey: check under "features" section..09:40
jinnyyeah I already tried with wine..09:40
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jinnyok i will find more ways by myself!:)09:41
jinnyThanks a lot!!!!!09:41
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jinnyhave a nice day!09:41
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dogatemycomputerjinny: stll there?09:42
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dogatemycomputerjinny: i'm sorry..  what exactly were you trying to play under linux?09:42
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dogatemycomputerjinny: there are a couple other options if Wine is too difficult.. you can try Crossover for Linux.. (www.codeweavers.com) or cedega (www.cedega.com).. I would check COdeWeaver's first..09:43
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dogatemycomputerintelikey: here is another link: http://www.linux.com/print.pl?sid=05/10/10/20420709:45
dogatemycomputerjinny: does that help?09:45
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dogatemycomputerjinny: if you could tell us what you're trying to do/play then we can probably offer more assistance.09:45
miodekI insttall Kubuntu a few days ago first time and it's extra ;]  but I have small problem, when I use the Amarok and i want to turn of the system is crashed?? why? Please help me ;]  Sorry of my English ;] 09:45
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dsmithis there a way to print a listing of all the programs installed in linux?09:46
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Darkkishso09:46
Darkkishi'm having some trouble09:46
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Darkkishinstalling linux from the live CD09:46
Darkkishthat i've never had before09:46
Darkkishthe partitioning system seems to be new and different09:47
Daskreechyay!!09:47
Daskreech rain is stopping09:47
DarkkishIt won't let me repartition my hda109:47
Daskreech Lightning is picking up though09:47
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: the guided setup fails when you attempt the installation?09:47
Daskreechmiodek: If you turn off the computer it crashes?09:47
miodekyes09:47
Daskreechdsmith: Yeah there is09:47
Darkkishdogatemycomputer: manual partition editing, says it fails when i try to resize my main partition09:47
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: are you using qtparted or gparted?09:48
dsmithI am migating to fiesty09:48
Daskreechmiodek: are you on a laptop?09:48
miodekno, in desktop...09:48
Daskreechdsmith: dpkg -l > fileyouwanttokeep09:48
Daskreechdsmith: trust me if something is missing you will know :)09:48
Darkkishdogatemycomputer: whatever is IN the install process09:48
dsmithhahah09:48
Daskreechmiodek: how often does this happen09:48
miodekeverything is ok, only that crashes..09:49
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: i've seen this before and its usually caused by the partition still being mounted when you try to resize it.  You should be able to right click on the device and unmount it.. (i'm a noob so i'm only taking a shot in the dark - someone else may be able to better help)09:49
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: does that make any sense to you?09:49
Daskreechdsmith: took me a month but suddenly I was all Where is Krecipe?09:49
Daskreechor ... why isn't my basket icon there?09:49
DaskreechRIP basKet :(09:49
miodekeverytime when i use the amarok09:49
Darkkishdogatemycomputer: yeah but it's not mounted, i checked09:49
Daskreechmiodek: What are you listening to in Amarok?09:50
Daskreechmiodek: your music or a radio station ?09:50
miodekif i want close down system, then kubuntu go to the konsole09:50
miodekonly music09:50
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: hmmmm... what kind of partition are you trying to resize?  does it give you any errors or anything?09:50
DarkkishI'm unframilliar and semi scared of this partition editor09:50
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: its just scary because its new.. after you've used it a couple of times (assuming you choose too for various reasons) then you'll find its pretty straight-forward.09:51
Daskreechmiodek: does it make a difference if you close Amarok first?09:51
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: it won't make any changes until you hit apply.. and at that point it usually prompts you before doing anything.09:51
DaskreechOr once you have opened amarok then shut down does not work?09:51
Darkkishdogatemycomputer: actually partitioning happens before you hit apply in the new partitioner09:52
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: lol09:52
Darkkishdogatemycomputer: I'm practicing on a different drive09:52
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: what partitioner are you using?09:52
miodekDaskreech: no, i close the amarok firs but it's not work09:52
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jinnyHi thanks all of them who r trying to help me:)09:52
DaskreechHmm09:52
dsmithDaskreech: Example, "sudo dpkg -l > stellarium" the output does not say anything09:52
jinnyActually I am a girl.:)09:52
Daskreechdsmith: You should have a file called stellarium now09:53
jinnySo the games I'd like to play are quite girly..==09:53
Darkkishdogatemycomputer: i don't know, it's the one BUILT INTO the live-cd installer09:53
dsmithdesktop?09:53
miodekDaskrech: i have Kubuntu 7.04 if this make help ;] 09:53
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: does it say "gparted" or "qparted" at the top?09:53
Daskreechjinny: barbie seahorse?09:53
dsmithDaskreech: thats what I thought but cannot find it09:53
jinnynope but..hehe09:54
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Darkkishdogatemycomputer: it says "Install"09:54
Daskreechmiodek: I'm sorry but I have to go09:54
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: ohhhh.. you're trying to do it during the installation process.  cancel the installation ..09:54
Daskreechask and I'm sure someone will try to help09:54
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miodekok, thank you...09:54
Daskreechmiodek: What language do you speak?09:54
jinnyjust some tycoons and arcade games09:54
Darkkishdogatemycomputer:  i've been telling you that09:54
jinnylike the apprentice09:54
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: after you boot the live CD there is an app called "gparted" in one of the menus.. that's the one you want to use.09:54
miodekPolish09:54
Darkkishdogatemycomputer: k thanks09:54
miodek;] 09:54
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Daskreechjinny: Oooh there is a Open transport Tycoon game09:55
miodekmy Englis is terible ;] 09:55
DaskreechI should try it out09:55
Daskreech!pl09:55
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl09:55
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: once you have your partitions setup the way you want them..  then you proceed to the intallation..09:55
jinnyor nanny mania09:55
miodekenglish*09:55
jinnykiki09:55
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jinnyI already played it:)09:55
DaskreechIf that helps you out any :)09:55
DaskreechGotta go09:55
jinnyand I luv some cooking games..:)09:55
Darkkishdogatemycomputer: yeah i like qtparted, thats what used to be built into the installer.09:55
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dogatemycomputerDarkkish: i'm just dense and a noob.. so...  there ya go..  (plus.. rather ask 6 times and make sure I understand then give you the wrong answer and watch your system crash and burn)09:56
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: you can install qtparted if you feel more comfortable with it.  did you need to know how?09:56
jinnySedega will work for it?09:56
jinnyI dun know09:56
miodekeveryone is sleeping ;]  and i must learn english ;] 09:56
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Darkkishdogatemycomputer: no, it's in the menu like you said09:56
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Darkkishdogatemycomputer: thanks for the help09:56
jinnyeven I installed the Win xp under linux09:56
jinnybut it's too slow!09:57
jinnyBut playing games is not very important I will just enjoy some flash games:)09:57
dogatemycomputerjinny:  i'm happy to help but we would need to know exactly what you want to play.. the name I guess.. so we can go find a solution for ya.  Its not easy getting Windows Apps to work under linux..09:57
jinnyyeah.. u r right..09:58
flakei have twinview set up for feisty, can i use one monitor for drawing and the other for panel stuff..  the wacom pen moves from the left to the right screen09:58
dogatemycomputerjinny: otherwise I would suggest loading the "add/remove programs" and checking under "games".. there are thousands of games for linux listed in there.09:58
jinnyI already gave the name of games "nanny mania" or "the apprentice"09:58
jinnythose are names.09:58
jinnyI'm really grateful to you!09:59
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: well.. i've never successfully resized a partition with qtparted for some reason.  if that doesn't work then try gparted..  but however you get it done.. glad to hear it!09:59
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jinnyI know that there are not many games for girls(?) under linux09:59
jinnybut it's ok!09:59
dogatemycomputerjinny: nanny mania is a shockwave game.. right?09:59
jinnywell10:00
dogatemycomputerjinny: well..  one of my favorites is Dinner Dash..10:00
SkiffXhmm funny I open an mp3 file from network, amarok plays it and xmms doesnt10:01
jinnyyeah!10:01
dogatemycomputerjinny: let me check something.. brb10:01
jinnyI wanna play it as well10:01
SkiffXany1 had something liek that ?10:01
jinnyactually my favorite game was restaurant empire10:01
jinnyso I like that kind of game "simul game"10:02
jinnycan i play dinner dash under linux?10:02
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jwallingfordso i am in adept manager -> Manage Repositories -> Third Part -> I click "Add" then enter "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security universe multiverse". Nothing happens. I got that url from source-o-matic10:03
jwallingfordwhy is this not working?10:03
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dogatemycomputerjinny: i'm working on it.. i'm curious if you can.. but i'll need to do some research so if you wanna hang out for a few minutes.. i'll brb10:04
jinnyok thank u so much!!!10:04
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jwallingfordcould someone please help me with this?10:07
jwallingfordshould I use shell? Im not very familiar with text edit in shell or console10:08
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KomiaPoikahow can i not start sendmail at boot?10:08
KomiaPoikaoops10:08
crimsunjwallingford: you should already have that if you installed kubuntu feisty.10:08
crimsunjwallingford: oh sorry, for universe & multiverse?10:09
jwallingfordi dont know. All I know is that not all the software I want is available through the default installation10:09
guilleHi i got a question,10:09
jwallingfordi would like the latest thunderbird v2.o instead of 1.510:09
jwallingfordand some others10:10
crimsunwe don't ship 2.0 for feisty.10:10
Darkkishwhen i get to the install process that says "Prepare disk space" it hangs10:10
guilleusng a video card, ati radeon, i have heard about intalling fglrx, but i do that but the driver name does not change10:10
Darkkishdoes this happen to anyone else?10:10
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jwallingfordi know so what i am trying to do is add some repositories so that i can download things other than what comes by default10:10
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jwallingfordwhat is feist?10:10
guillein system settings it still says vesa, I tried to change it mannually, but then the screen goes gray10:10
jwallingfordby the way10:11
DarkkishFeisty10:11
crimsunjwallingford: that's the security updates repository for feisty (7.04)10:11
jwallingford!feisty10:11
ubotuKubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php10:11
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crimsunjwallingford: that repository does _not_ contain mozilla-thunderbird 2.010:11
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jwallingfordok. well i was trying to add others as well but they were not adding.10:11
flakein twinview can I restrict my wacom pen to one monitor?10:11
jwallingforddeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse10:11
jwallingforddeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-updates universe multiverse10:11
jwallingfordoh they are all feisty10:12
jwallingfordso how would i find a repository list that allows me to download thunderbird 2.0 and others?10:12
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AnyKeyHello everyone.  Might anyone know if there is a PDF or something close that I can download then print that lists kubuntu commands from basic (mostly these) to higher level commands used in bash?10:13
crimsunjwallingford: I don't recommend anything of that sort, sorry.10:13
guillethat would be something for me a list with the commands where to find it Anykey?10:14
AnyKeyyeah.. I am looking for such a list.  Going on a camping trip in a camper to sit, eat, sleep then sit, eat, and sleep some more.. I am hoping to fill some time in there with other activities... like reading up on some of these commands etc. :)10:15
dogatemycomputerjinny: i'm still working on it.. installing Dinner Dash now to see if I can get it to load.10:16
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: running into problems?10:16
Solarushow can I configure my TV car10:16
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Solarusoops10:16
Solaruscard10:16
Darkkishdogatemycomputer: not anymore10:16
Solarusat the moment it is saying I need to select the driver in the logs etc10:16
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: did you need anything more?10:16
binksSolarus: !mythtv10:17
Darkkishdogatemycomputer: no thanks10:17
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binksSolarus:| !mythtv10:17
jinnyTHanks dogatemycomputer!10:18
dogatemycomputer!mythtv | Solarus10:18
ubotuSolarus: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV10:18
jinnyI'm just a biginner of linux sorry for bothering you-10:18
binksjinny: dont ever be sorry10:18
dogatemycomputerjinny: i'm new too.. but i don't mind trying new things.. so i'm screwing around with it.10:18
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Solarus!mythtv10:19
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV10:19
dogatemycomputerjinny: starting with Dinner Dash.. waiting to see how the installation works out.10:19
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dogatemycomputerjinny: its downloading.10:19
binkswhats dinner dash10:19
jinnywow thanks:10:19
jinny)10:19
dogatemycomputerbinks: its a cheesy game that we like to play.. www.google.com -> "dinner dash" game10:19
AnyKeyheh.. jinny no both here... thats why these linux big brains are here... to help whelps like me and you. ;)10:19
binksimjust installing edubuntu onto my kids new pc they are sooo exited10:19
jinnylol!10:20
jinnyMerci!10:20
jinnymy friend let me know this Konversation box, very happy to be here10:20
jwallingfordso if i download a .rpm file can I install it in kubuntu/10:21
jwallingford*?10:21
binksvery happy your here the more the better10:21
binksjwallingford: yes10:21
AnyKeyjinny, its good to read up on the conversations at times too to get a jist of what is out there in the way of technologies etc in the linux OS.10:21
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jwallingfordwhat do i use to run it?10:21
binksjwallingford: |!alien10:21
binksarrr10:21
jinny:)10:22
binks!alien10:22
ubotuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)10:22
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jwallingfordah10:22
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binksjwallingford: what do you need to install10:22
jwallingfordits just the adobe flash player plugin i need10:23
jwallingfordadept doesnt have it available10:23
binks!flash10:23
ubotuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash10:23
jwallingfordty10:23
AnyKey!ubotu10:23
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots10:23
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dogatemycomputerjinny: no luck girl.. i'm sorry :(10:25
jinnyoh, it's ok!!10:25
dogatemycomputerjinny: they are shockwave based games so you can only play them through firefox.. and Dinner Dash won't work unless you have IE installed.. which sucks.10:26
jinnyThanks a lot10:26
jinnyright!10:26
jwallingford!dvd10:26
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs10:26
jinnyactually I am Korean10:26
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dogatemycomputerjinny: there is hope.. i tried to download one of the games (Nanny Mania) and it responded that they are working on a version for linux.. its just not ready yet.10:26
dogatemycomputerjinny: not sure what that means..10:26
jinnymost of Korean websites are working with Active x10:26
dogatemycomputerjinny: but it sounds better than "screw off"10:26
Dellilahdogatemycomputer: oh i love that game :D10:26
jinnywhich bothers me so much10:26
dogatemycomputerjinny: :-)10:26
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dogatemycomputerDellilah: yeah..  we should complain .. i just need to find out who to complain too.10:27
jinnystill it's quite difficult to stay with linux coz I don't know much about it10:27
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Dellilahdogatemycomputer: good luck ;)10:28
binksdogatemycomputer: you sure you need ie to play that game have you a link to the game10:28
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dogatemycomputerbrb10:28
dogatemycomputerbinks:10:28
jinnybut I think it's interesting to get to know something nex10:28
jinnynew10:28
dogatemycomputerbinks: there is a web version that goes to level 10.. but not beyond without downloading/installing the full blown version (Which sounds silly to me but that's how it works)..10:29
jinnybut is it really difficult to make those games proper for linux?10:29
dogatemycomputerjinny: well.. don't panic.. its just new..10:29
Zvezdichkohello. I'd like to ask - do you know how to correct this - NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088?10:29
dogatemycomputerjinny: once you figure it out.. (reading and friends).. then you realize how much better it is..10:29
jinnyright!10:29
binksjinny: no its not they just choose to write for the big paying doze market10:29
jinnyah, and we have to pay for cedega? right?10:30
binkswell no just use wine10:30
binks!wine10:30
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.10:30
dogatemycomputerjinny: no.. its just a matter of numbers. That's changing though.  I'm seeing more and more support for linux that didn't exist even 6 months ago.  Its amazing the pace at which things are changing.10:30
Darkkishcedega is free10:30
Darkkish-_-10:30
binks?10:30
Darkkishlegally free. if you download a slightly older version10:30
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dogatemycomputerjinny: Cedega isn't free unless you pirate it.. but I don't see anything to indicate these games work even with Cedega..10:31
Darkkishi don't remember how to get it free, but i know there i s a way10:31
dogatemycomputerjinny: and they don't work with Crossover either.10:31
arunintelikey: you there?10:31
jinnyhm..10:31
aruni did a sudo dd to clean my hard drive, and its taking forever10:31
arunany tips?10:31
arunanyone?10:31
DarkkishWell I got WoW to run on Wine faster than on windows10:31
binksok if its pure gaming you want windows is the way sorry but if its a stable virus free enviroment then its inux10:31
Darkkishwe'll see if i can do that again since all of the latest patches10:31
Darkkishanyways i have to restart10:32
DarkkishI've got linux installed :D10:32
dogatemycomputerjinny: i'm sorry :(   most of the popular games work fine but the less-popular ones like Dinner Dash and Nanny Mania just aren't there yet.10:32
jinnybut my games I want to play they don't work with wine10:32
jinnyright10:32
dogatemycomputerDarkkish: AWESOME!!!!10:32
jinnytha10:32
jinnythat's my problem!10:32
dogatemycomputerjinny: sorry.. but no :(10:32
dogatemycomputerjinny: you can play the web versions..10:32
jinnybut mostly they are demo10:33
hangthedjif you have a windows disk you could always install it on a VM10:33
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binkshave you a link to dinner dash10:33
dogatemycomputeractually.. that might be a lie.. does anyone know if Shockwave works on linux?10:33
AnyKeydogatemycomputer, automatix installs firefox and all the plugin perfectly for things like flash, java etc... try that maybe.10:33
crdlbdogatemycomputer, it doesn't10:33
crdlbonly flash does10:33
dogatemycomputerbinks: http://www.shockwave.com/gamelanding/dinerdash.jsp10:33
binksdcheers ill take a look10:34
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dogatemycomputerjinny: that looks like the problem.. shockwave doesn't work at all on linux10:34
dogatemycomputerIsn't Shockwave owned by Adobe?10:34
MaTiAzYeah10:34
glauco1hi10:34
dogatemycomputerThen what's holding them up?10:34
hangthedjyou might try installing the new version of seamonkey.  it seems to run most everything10:34
jinnycan we use adobe shockwave player under linux?10:35
MaTiAzHmm10:35
binkshttp://sdc.shockwave.com/shockwave/download/alternates/10:35
MaTiAzhow to setup a scanner in Linux?10:35
binkslook under linux its suggests flash under firefox10:35
hangthedj!kooka10:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kooka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:35
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hangthedj!info kooka10:38
ubotukooka: scanner program for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 743 kB, installed size 1204 kB10:38
MaTiAzOk, thanks :)10:39
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ubuntu_about installing kubuntu again, anyone care to help out here ?10:39
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jinnyanyhow thank you so much, guys!10:39
djdarkman_can someone tell me how to configure a vnc server?10:40
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ubuntu_I have a previous installation, but I want to format it and do a clean install10:40
jinnyI will try all you guys mentioned today!:)10:40
jinnysaturday with linux!lol10:40
jinnyah today is my birthday!10:41
ubuntu_but I also have xp installed and Im now wondering that if I simply install the ew kubuntu on the same partition as the previous one will I still be able to boot to windows ?10:41
jinnykiki10:41
jinnyso bye!10:41
binksjinny: happy birthday10:41
guillename of the ati driver?10:42
ubuntu_And what the hell am I supposed to do In the prepare partitions window ?10:42
jinnythanks binks!10:42
binks!fglrx10:42
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:42
dogatemycomputerbinks: jinny:  I just left a complaint with Adobe about the lack of a Shockwave player.  I think anyone else who is interested should do the same thing.  If you want the link then i'll be happy to post it.10:42
dogatemycomputerjinny: Happy Birthday!10:42
khaije1!birthday10:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about birthday - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:42
khaije1oh.. Happy BDay jinny10:42
dogatemycomputer!language10:43
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:43
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binksubuntu_: you need to do some reading and make your own hoices on partitioning as every pc is different10:43
binks^choices10:44
dogatemycomputer!shockwave10:44
ubotuShockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave10:44
ubuntu_How do I choose the partition for the root system in the Prepare partitions window, keeps telling me none is selected even if i have on selected ? do i need to edit the mountpoint ?10:44
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MrDigimonHow do i get rid of the "could not load openGL..." in enemy territory?10:44
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fdovingpsynth: mountpoint will be /10:44
hangthedjdogatemycomputer: whats the shockwave complaint link?10:45
psynthso I edit the mount point to / and thats it ?10:45
fdovingpsynth: yes.10:45
jinnythanks I will try to leave a complaint with adobe:)10:45
psynthhow do i select the swap ?10:45
psynththe old one is showing but how to select it ?10:45
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fdovingpsynth: you don't need to, it'll be autoselected.10:45
psynthok10:46
dogatemycomputerhangthedj: go to this link if it works (if it doesn't let me know)10:46
dogatemycomputerhangthedj: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/support/index.cfm?event=membership&returnURL=%2Fcfusion%2Fsupport%2Findex%2Ecfm%3Fevent%3Dportal&loc=en_us10:46
psynthfdoving: thanks alot, and a last question, if I install this new version over on the old ext3 partition nothing will change boot wise ?10:46
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dogatemycomputerhangthedj: its basically.. www.adobe.com, support from the top then "contact support" on the right.. create an account and submit a case..10:47
dogatemycomputerHonestly.. I would encourage everyone to submit a case.. although i'm not sure Adobe plans to develop shockwave anymore.. then they should at least try to port the games.. some of them are quite fun.10:48
jinnyI will learn more about linux by myself and I'll come back! thank you and sorry if I make a mistake here I don't know the rules here very well10:48
jinnyhave a good day!!:)10:48
jwallingfordwhat version of kde comes with 7.04?10:48
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dogatemycomputerjinny: have a great one!  come back soon..10:48
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hangthedjjwallingford: 3.5.6 or 3.5.710:49
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A-L-A-R-Mhello. when opening some text files with kaffeine , it always creates another file with the same name, for example test.txt , it creates a file test~ . what is that10:52
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fdovingA-L-A-R-M: with kaffeine?10:52
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A-L-A-R-Mehmm sorry, i was writing a code for kaffeine eheheh . i meant kate10:55
fildo!nvidia10:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:55
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flowingfireHello Kubuntu-ers... I have a question about Beryl... How do I get it to install correctly on Kubuntu without completely messing up everything.  I actually just tried it four different ways, and it caused an irreconcilable problem each of four times... I got it working on another installation, but the directions on beryl's website have been ... deleted by some stupid hackbot10:56
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premier_hello, whats the package that doubles you battery life and protects your laptop from water and fall damage?10:57
premier_linux can do that, right?10:57
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flowingfireI think there's a power-saving package, actually, premier, that might just double your battery life by changing the frequency of your CPU.10:57
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premier_flowingfire: lol... the acpi is a little screwy on my computer10:58
djdarkman_Does someone know how to configure krfb?10:58
flowingfirehehe ok10:58
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A-L-A-R-Mso?10:58
flowingfireIf anybody has a clue about getting Beryl working on Kubuntu w/ Nvidia-glx-new, let me know10:58
noiesmoflowingfire, mine works10:59
djdarkman_flowingfire: what`s the problem?10:59
premier_flowingfire: can the program micromanage cpu usage?  like, linux uses <10% of cpu most of the time, but it spikes every few seconds... can it micromanage like that?10:59
premier_I'm having trouble with beryl too... kdesktop seems to conflict with beryl10:59
premier_basically, beryl complains about other window managers until you crash kdesktop11:00
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flowingfireYeah . . . Interestingly, though I'm having problems now, I got it to work almost -perfectly- on another installation.  gawd I wish the wiki on the beryl website was intact. lol11:00
flowingfirebut, alas, the wiki got hacked by a bot and all the directions i'm looking for got deleted11:00
djdarkman_flowingfire: distro?11:01
djdarkman_flowingfire: what version/release of kubuntu do you use?11:02
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flowingfireOh I use Kubuntu Feisty with all the new updates11:03
flowingfire:)11:03
flowingfireI think it's either Feisty Fawn... or Feisty Fox for that matter!11:03
djdarkman_then flowingfireuse this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOnFeisty?highlight=%28beryl%2911:03
djdarkman_* use11:03
djdarkman_it works perfectly11:03
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flowingfireOh cool. :) Ok thanks djdarkman... I will follow that.11:04
djdarkman_flowingfire: no problem, glad I could help, I had major issues before feisty, but it feisty it seem to just work11:05
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iouQhi all11:10
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leosnhi all11:12
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_boored11:16
_boostill red11:17
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_boo red is so unprofessional...11:18
_boowe11:18
olmo?11:18
Darkkishso11:19
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DarkkishI have two questions11:19
Darkkishnumber one, why are the mounted things on my desktop not showing the same pretty icons that showed in the live CD (instead they are jsut shown as folders)11:19
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AndehHi11:20
AndehThe Fluxbox Channel is empty, so i came here11:20
AndehI just installed fluxbox (ubuntu, apt-get) and the default style is horrible, and when i go to "fluxbox menu" System Styles and User Styles are empty...11:20
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AndehAnd /usr/share/fluxbox/styles is not empty11:20
Andehi even copied the styles from the tarball there myself..11:20
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AndehSorry11:21
Andehim back11:21
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just-this-timewhere can I get some help with mythTV11:28
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merzbowso what's so special about kubuntu?11:30
DarkkishIt's like.. linuxy11:31
Darkkishand KDE11:31
Timsenhi, would I need to reinstall the ati driver after a kernel upgrade? i made a dist-upgrade and after that update my direct rendering is deactivated, if I boot the old kernel it works as before11:31
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merzbowDarkkish, isn't the normal ubuntu....linuxy?11:32
Darkkishmerzbow: i suppose so but it's not KDE ;)11:32
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rdallarmihi, is there anybody in here with knowledge of courier?11:34
korobaseHi,all11:34
korobase!UUID11:34
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ExtrapanTimsen: yes you need to build a new module for the upgraded kernel11:35
Darkkish!mp311:35
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TimsenExtrapan: okay, therefor I should again the driver package or can I rebuild the module from the old kernel?11:36
Timsen+ use11:36
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just-this-time!mythtv11:37
ubotuMythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV11:37
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Extrapanwhen I did it last time I just rebuild the old one and it worked11:37
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Timsenokay I will try that11:37
Timsenthanks Extrapan11:37
merzbowDarkkish, and whats so especial about kde anyway?11:37
Darkkishmerzbow: have you ever used linux?11:38
Darkkishit's just a different interface.11:38
Darkkishto each is own11:38
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merzbowDarkkish, yes I have... but... I have the impression that kubuntu is kinda...less stable thatn the gnome ubuntu....11:39
Darkkishlol11:39
Darkkishit's not.11:39
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asalamhio!11:40
DarkkishMost windows switchers like it more because it's more framilliar for one thing11:40
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asalamim having ugly fonts on this particular site: www.clanbase.com11:40
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asalamhow can i set this right?11:40
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merzbowand kde looks kinda.... bloated11:42
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SlimeyPetekde's no more blated than gnome, really11:43
SlimeyPete*bloated11:43
just-this-time!sound11:43
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:43
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wietsegoodmorning11:46
wietsei'm trying to install a program i downloaded11:46
wietse<wietse> can someone explain me what codes to use in the terminal?11:46
SlimeyPetewhat sort of file is it?11:47
wietseits a programprogram11:47
just-this-timemy sound onboard is on HP asus oEM and idd as alc883 .11:47
SlimeyPeteno, I mean... is it a .deb, a .tgz, a .tar.gz....11:47
wietsei downloaded the tar.gz file and extracted it11:47
SlimeyPetea .bin....11:47
just-this-timeis it supported?11:47
SlimeyPeteah11:47
SlimeyPeteweiser: what program is it?11:48
wietsegnome blog11:48
wietsecan i use that in kde?11:48
wietsekubuntu11:48
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SlimeyPeteweiser: don't use the .tar.gz file. gnome-blog is already available via Adept.11:48
SlimeyPeteand yes, I should think you can use it just fine11:49
wietseok11:49
wietsei couldn't find it via Adept11:49
weiserSlimeyPete: No me but wietse11:49
wietse:)11:49
SlimeyPetewesorry11:49
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SlimeyPetewietse: enable Universe11:50
wietse?11:50
weiser(=11:50
wietsecan't find that setting11:50
wietsei've ticked11:50
wietse'unsupported' and 'propriaty software'11:50
wietseand selected all suites11:50
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SlimeyPetewietse: it's called "Community maintained"11:51
SlimeyPeteit's on the fi11:51
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SlimeyPeterst page of the11:51
SlimeyPeteAdept repository manager11:51
SlimeyPeteaerk, sorr11:51
SlimeyPetey11:51
HighHowietse: its called gnome-blog11:51
SlimeyPeteoh poo... I think my netowkr is playing up11:52
wietseok hold on11:52
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wietseAdept repository manager, where can I find that?11:52
tahsinhow do i get a display picture on kopete ?11:52
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wietseits not the same as the Adept installer?11:52
SlimeyPetewietse: there's an "Adept" menu in the top-left. It's in there.11:52
SlimeyPetewietse: it's a screen in the Adept installer11:52
mikkaelis it possible to create a partition on a disk that im using at the moment ?11:52
tahsinslimeypete: how do i get a display picture on kopete ?11:52
mikkaelor do i need a live-system for that ?11:53
wietseam i just being really daft?11:53
SlimeyPetetahsin: I have no idea, sorry11:53
wietsethere sin't11:53
tahsinmikkael: how do i get a display picture on koprte?11:53
wietseAdept in the top left only gives the 'Quit' option11:53
mikkaeltahsin check the config menu11:53
SlimeyPetewietse: hrm. It should give more than that.11:54
wietseis there another way?11:54
wietsei know more tech minded people use the terminal11:54
wietsei'm just not clued up on codes etc11:54
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wietsecommands i mean11:54
tahsinmikkael: i did but couldnt locate11:54
SlimeyPetewietse: yes, there is. Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install gnome-blog"11:54
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HighHomikkael: I thing any disks in use will be locked, you can use gparted on either a usb stick or from the ubuntu live cd11:55
mikkaeltahsin: "identity"11:55
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wietseSlimeyPete: the install is running now11:56
mikkaelHighHo: qtparted offers the option, but im not sure if this would be safe to use :)11:56
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buggy_hay guys - anyone have a suggestion for a good app that will get podcast and rss feeds without allot of hassle ? running kubuntu - fiesty - latest version11:57
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HighHomikkael: I imagine just as safe as when editting partions with any software :p11:58
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flowingfireAkregator doesn't work for u buggy?11:59
wietseSlimeyPete: i think the install might be complete, but there's nothing showing in the programs11:59
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SlimeyPetewietse: try running "gnome-blog" from a terminal11:59
flowingfireQuestion: I get two Beryl icons on startup.  Any ideas?12:00
wietsewhat is the command?12:00
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SlimeyPetewietse: you may have to add it to the menu manually - a lot12:00
wietsehmm12:00
SlimeyPetewietse: gnome-blog12:00
wietsei mean the command to run a program12:00
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SlimeyPetewietse: yeah. Just type gnome-blog12:01
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wietsebash: gnome-blog: command not found12:01
buggy_slimeypete - know of a good one that runs on kde desktop?12:01
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SlimeyPetewietse: oh.... hrm. Try typing "gnome", then hit tab a couple of times12:01
SlimeyPetebuggy_: no, sorry12:02
buggy_ok12:02
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wietsewietse@daf:~$ gnome-12:02
wietsegnome-blog-poster        gnome-open12:02
wietsegnome-keyring-daemon     gnome-video-thumbnailer12:02
buggy_seems there is allot more stuff like this for ubuntu.... :o(12:02
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Zigaciao!^^12:03
giovanni_ciao12:03
Zigaquesto  il canale di aiuto italiano?12:03
giovanni_non lo so...12:03
hyuma ciao ragazzi  bello vedere italiani :=)12:04
giovanni_ la prima volta che ci entro12:04
Zigaciao hyuma!12:04
giovanni_ciao12:04
SlimeyPetewietse: try "gnome-blog-poster"12:04
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Zigahyuma tu sai come si chiama il canale italiano?12:04
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hyumanon lo so12:04
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hyumaho appena aperto #ubuntuitalia12:04
hyumajoinate12:04
Darkkishcan someone help me set up beryl?12:04
Darkkishwhen i run it i get a white cube with no desktops on it12:05
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titanix88sm1 help me to run azureus from .jar12:05
kumamoto!compiz12:05
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:05
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kumamoto!beryl12:05
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:05
kumamotoDarkkish: check on #ubuntu-effects maybe they can help12:06
Darkkishkumamoto: thanks12:06
HighHobuggy_: Not sure if theres a program that can do them both, but there is "Akregator" for RSS feeds, and "Kitty" for podcasts12:06
wietseSlimeyPete: gnome-blog-poster doesn't work12:06
wietsei get a long error message12:07
SlimeyPetewietse: oh... strange. Does it give an error message? I just ran it on my system and it worked fine12:07
titanix88!jar12:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:07
wietseshall post the error message in here?12:07
wietseor maybe in another window?12:07
SlimeyPetewietse: paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:08
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SlimeyPeteand give me the url it generates12:08
titanix88sm1 help me to run azureus from .jar12:08
buggy_highho - thx will check out - just tried command - gnome-blog in konsole and got following error - <bash: gnome-blog: command not found>12:08
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SlimeyPetetitanix88: java -jar azureus.jar12:08
SlimeyPetetitanix88: why are you running it from a .jar, though? It's available via Adept...12:09
wietseSlimeyPete: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23695/12:09
titanix88SlimeyPete: its old in repository. i want to try v312:09
HighHobuggy_: I think that command was intended for somone else :)12:09
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SlimeyPetetitanix88: ah right12:09
buggy_oh ok12:10
SlimeyPetewietse: hrm, looks like your aspell dictionary is missing12:10
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buggy_will stick with gui one for now12:10
titanix88SlimeyPete :thnk u12:10
SlimeyPetewietse: try doing "sudo apt-get install aspell-en"12:10
wietseok12:11
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FeroXc' qualche italiano?12:14
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FeroXok12:15
FeroXso i have to speak in english12:15
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FeroX:)12:15
HighHoFerox: #ubuntu-it12:15
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HighHoFerox: or maybe #kubuntu-it :p12:15
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FeroX:)12:16
Emeraldhello12:16
FeroXi had a beautyfull kubuntu system12:17
FeroXone day i decided to install kde4 alpha12:17
EmeraldI am a new Ubuntu user, it came with Gnome, I installed it today.  My friend who was helping me told me to try KDE.   KDE, at first look does not look better, why should I used KDE over gnome?12:17
FeroXnow i'm running kubuntu on cd live12:17
FeroXbecause also wireless doesn't work12:18
FeroXis it possibleto update my old installatin from live cd?12:18
HighHoEmerald: Its all about preference, I would recommend trying both and then choosing the one you prefer12:18
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Emeraldwell Gnome came with all these cool things, like the cube, and audio controls....does KDE have this ?12:19
HighHoFeroX: if you open Adept Manager you can goto File > Manage Repositories > Third Party > Add Cdrom12:20
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FeroXHighHo: X doesn't start12:21
HighHoEmerald: Yes12:21
FeroXi coluld ad cd to repositories....12:22
HighHoEmerald: You do not even need to remove gnome to try KDE12:22
kumamotoKDE has a plethora of features and if you aren't satisfied with the default look you can always check out12:22
kumamoto[#kubuntu] 12:22
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kumamotooops12:22
Emeraldok let me try to add12:23
kumamotoyou can always check out http://www.kde-look.org/12:23
HighHoFeroX: Can you load the recovery mode kernel?12:23
wietseSlimeyPete: thanks for your help, its working now, just wondering if there is a possibility of creating a short cut/ icon somewhere i could just click on, instead of having to do the command in the terminal each time12:23
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FeroXHighHo: es12:23
FeroXHighHo: es12:23
FeroXHighHo: yes12:23
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SlimeyPetewietse: if you right-click on the K button on your toolbar, you should be able to add menu entries using the menu editor12:25
HighHoFeroX: Load that, remove the KDE4 packages if you have not done so and run the following command if you can still not start X (kdm): sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg12:25
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FeroXand i can i had cd to repositories?12:26
wietseSlimeyPete: yeah, just that gnome-blog-poster still don't show in the programs12:26
FeroXand how can i had cd to repositories?12:26
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SlimeyPetewietse: what do you mean? You need to select a category from the left, hit the "new" button and then add an entry to that category12:27
wietseyeah sorry12:27
SlimeyPetewietse: type "gnome-blog-poster" into the "command" field12:27
wietsegot it all working12:27
SlimeyPetewietse: :)12:27
wietsethanks SmileyPete12:27
wietse:)12:27
wietsewicked12:28
SlimeyPeteno problem12:28
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HighHoFeroX: Are you using 64 bit or 32bit?12:29
FeroX3212:30
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HighHoFeroX: Add a line like this to your sources.list file: deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn] / feisty main restricted12:31
HighHoDue to updated packages etc, there is a chance you will not be able to install certian packages this way.12:32
FeroXsudo apt-cdrom add12:33
FeroX!12:33
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FeroXi'll try12:34
HighHosure you can use that command if you want to save time :p12:35
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brosiozhi all12:51
brosiozbut there is some differeces from beryl and compiz ?12:51
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HighHobrosioz: they are 2 diffrent projects from the same base, they will both be merged again in the future12:57
brosiozHighHo: thx12:57
brosiozin your opinion12:58
brosiozwhich is the most simply to use ?12:58
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HighHoI would personally recommend Beryl on kubuntu12:59
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HighHoYou can install "beryl-kubuntu" which should include all you need01:02
Emeraldhmmm01:03
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Jucatobrosioz: see #ubuntu-effects for more information01:04
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fildo!tv01:09
ubotuhttp://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out01:09
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just-this-timehow to automate remote help01:09
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just-this-time!remotehelp01:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about remotehelp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:12
just-this-time!vnc01:12
ubotuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX01:12
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fildo!vtv01:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:15
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lucagood day01:30
lucawhat is the package needed to enable support for the 3945 wireless card?01:30
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`cYr|x_does someone know how to fix if KDE su return an error?01:31
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PhinnFortwtf does Kubuntu ship with so many fugly and broken fonts by default?01:32
PhinnFortMitra Mono, for example, and the Baekmuk ones01:32
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calv_does anyone here know how to get kiba-dock to remember icon orders, i.e. not go back to its original state?01:35
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_Shade_hey i just switched from ati to nvidia, so i had to change my resolution back again and now when i login kdm screen is still @ 640x480 or so01:39
_Shade_so what can i do to make the login resolution higher01:39
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Andrew``evening all01:43
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Andilouais pareil01:44
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Andrew``I have been given a CD of 7.04. I currently use Suse and would like to give kubuntu a go. What I would like to know is, do I need to boot from the CD or just put it in and browse the CD and install from there?01:45
^RiaN^!vcdimager01:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vcdimager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:45
^RiaN^hiii all01:45
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ubunturosAndrew``: since you want to try it out, put in the CD and restart your computer01:49
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ubuntu_ciao a tutti01:50
Andrew``My CDrom is not my first boot device tho01:50
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ubunturosAndrew``: when the computer restarts, enter your BIOS01:50
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ubunturosAndrew``:  and change the boot device priority to CD-ROM01:50
Andrew``yes I knwo how to do that01:51
ubunturosAndrew``: ok,01:51
Andrew``:)01:51
ubunturosAndrew``: :)01:51
_Shade_how do i autoremove unneeded packages in adept?01:51
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Andrew``!mp301:52
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:52
_Shade_i mean an option like apt-get autoremove01:52
gobanwhats some games a seven year old might like?01:55
PhinnFortgoban: the tux games?01:55
PhinnFortgoban: planetpenguin racer01:56
gobanthanks01:56
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PhinnFortmaybe supertuxkart too01:57
PhinnFortand supertux is always fun01:57
PhinnFortand my sister likes tuxpaint a lot too, she's 601:58
gobanthanks01:58
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Andrew``Ok...going to try to install Kubuntu.. wish me luck...lol02:03
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ignazionon riesco a lanciare beryl,  ho seguito la guida ma il desktop  uguale02:12
ignazioqualcuno mi sa dire come lo posso attivare?02:12
LjL!it | ignazio02:12
ubotuignazio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:12
ignazioops02:12
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_Shade_could anyone help me with an nvidia card?02:22
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remyAm I the only one with kcontact cloning *every* items (contatcs, to-do items,...)02:23
remy?02:23
hyumawhat's the better skin for traybar for kubuntu?02:24
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MrDigimondumb question: how do i activate the 3d acceleration of my graphic card?02:36
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JucatoMrDigimon: what card?02:37
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MrDigimonits a NVidia vanta-1602:37
qdploveyike?02:37
Jucato!nvidia | MrDigimon02:37
ubotuMrDigimon: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:37
MrDigimonhave some probs when trying to play WolfET02:38
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hyuma!skin02:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about skin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:43
gino_do somebody know what "fontconfig-config is missing final newline" when running apt02:44
fdovinggino_: can you quote the exact error ?02:45
gino_yes i'm goin to paste it02:45
MrDigimonmust i do something else than install the driver and activate it now?02:46
fdoving!pastebin | gino_02:46
ubotugino_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:46
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gino_ok thanx02:46
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Levi-Anyone here?02:47
MrDigimon| Jucato must i do something else than activate it now02:47
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JucatoMrDigimon: um... not sure up to what step you followed. basically, install the packages, run the nvidia-xconfig command, then restart X02:48
Levi-Any idea why my desktop crashes when configureing my wireless card anyone?02:48
MrDigimonok i just wondered if i had to do something after i installed and activated it, i restart it no seeya02:49
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Levi-Any idea why my desktop crashes when configureing my wireless card?02:50
gino_posted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23710/02:52
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decapitatedHello02:55
decapitatedanybody here02:56
gino_by the way, not worried for pacman. just a sample prg. it does the same with every prg02:56
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Andrew``YAY!!!!!!!02:58
Andrew``Am now on Kubuntu!02:58
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sivajimy dvd driver cant detect dvd disk in kubuntu but it works fine in windows03:03
Andrew``Ok I installed kubuntu on 2nd hard drive.. now I dont see where I can access my wondows drive in konqueror.. HELP!!!03:04
Andrew``windows03:04
MaTiAzAndrew``: Try /media/hda1?03:04
fdovinggino_: try 'echo -ne "\n"| sudo tee -a /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.list' from the commandline. without the ' quotes. but with the " quotes in the command.03:04
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Andrew``nope not there :(03:05
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gino_fdoving i get nothing in the shell03:07
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fdovinggino_: good, try apt-get again.03:08
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gino_fdoving: tried, same error03:08
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_Shade_glxinfo shows the following output03:10
_Shade_http://rafb.net/p/G1Y8fK86.html03:10
_Shade_what do i do wrong with the nvidia drivers?03:10
fdovinggino_: ok, open /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.list in a text editor, like nano for example, write a char somewhere and delete it, keeping the file exactly like it was before, then save and exit.03:10
fdovinggino_: you will need to open that as root, like 'sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.list'03:11
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FOAD_Hi.03:16
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FOAD_I just want to double-click on an URL to make Firefox open a page.  How?03:16
FOAD_I don't want a Kicker menu.03:16
BluesKajno need to double click, once will do it... right click in the panel and hide it03:18
BluesKajor remove  the kicker03:18
sivajiBluesKaj how to set firefox as my default browser when i click a link i want that to be opened  with firefox03:19
FOAD_I remove the kicker, clicking doesn't do anything.03:19
FOAD_If I just click once on a url (in konsole or sth) nothing happens.03:20
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gino_fdoving: suedited fontconfig.list; now error is fontconfig.list contains empty filename03:21
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BluesKajsivaji, in the konsole : sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser03:21
sivajiwhat this command will do03:21
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sivajiBluesKaj  what this command will do03:22
BluesKajFOAD_, you can set all the clicking and personal prefernces in system settings ... we're here to help , but not hold your hand :)03:22
LjLsivaji: "man update-alternatives" will tell yuop03:22
fdovinggino_: fontconfig-config.list03:23
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BluesKajsivaji, it gives you a choice03:23
sivajiwhat choice03:23
BluesKajtake a look03:23
gino_sorry03:23
yagamiwhy does my ubuntu live cd freeze right after starting gdm?03:24
sivaji!dvd03:24
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs03:24
yagamiwhoopsie. i mean kdm.03:24
yagamion a toshiba satellite03:24
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DexterFhi03:25
DexterF7.04 problem with USB03:25
DexterFmy usb keyb and mouse don't work in 7.04. can't even login. live cd worked fine, other OS work fine, too (namely WinXP and Slackware)03:26
yagamido the devices show up at all? oh wait- you can't find out without the keyboard.03:27
DexterFsuspect a kernel code glitch in usb handling, mayhap in connection with suspend modes. are there any alternative kernel images for 7.04 around?03:27
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Andrew``ah fsck man!!! now I have no CDrom!!!03:27
yagamifsck indeed.03:27
DexterFyagami: interesting question, got a ps2 keyb that works, but it's on this box and I can't boot it right now. I'll check out later03:27
fildo!beryl03:28
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects03:28
Andrew``brb.. gonna try to get into my windows system03:28
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gino_fdoving: suedited fontconfig-config.list. problem persists03:30
sivajiBluesKaj  my system cant detect dvd disk03:30
fdovinggino_: then re-edit it, go to the end and make a new blank line. then save and exit.03:31
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BluesKajsivaji, have you installed the codecs like you saw in the URL, libdvdcss2 etc ?03:32
DaveTheAvecan someone please help me get this USB mouse to work?03:32
DaveTheAvePlease help,  mean I'm sure numerous people here know how to install a USB mouse in festy.03:34
fdovinggino_: then i have no clue.03:34
fdovinggino_: are you sure the error message is the exact same?03:34
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sivajiBluesKaj it is already there that too new version03:35
BluesKajDaveTheAve, the only way i can think of is to ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' in the konsole ...there you'll have choices of mousetypes and settings03:36
gino_fdoving: yes, thanx anyway03:36
DaveTheAvethank you03:36
DaveTheAvetesting now03:36
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Andrew``Ok.. my windows system is still there.. why can I not see it on my Kubuntu system?03:39
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DexterFyagami: what I can remmeber tho is that in dmesg I got lots of msgs like "can't access this and that usb, cable faulty?"03:40
sivajiAndrew`` u mean u partition03:40
Andrew``can anyone help me? please?03:40
Andrew``yes03:40
DexterF(and no, it's not. the cables are all fine)03:40
Andrew``I have 2 drives03:40
Andrew``one with windows03:40
Andrew``the other with kubuntu03:40
sivajiu need to mount that03:40
Andrew``ok how do I do that?03:41
_Shade_what do i need to install an nvidia-legacy drivers properly03:41
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_Shade_i mean the packages03:41
hyumaanyone use superkaramba?03:41
sivajisudo mount /whereever /whatever fileformat03:41
Andrew``sorry am new to linux... can you be more specific?03:42
sivajiwait i will see and tell u03:42
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Andrew``my windows is on hda03:42
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DaveTheAveBluesKaj: I found this: pci-0000:00:1d.2-usb-0:1:1.0-mouse in /dev/input/by-path03:43
dwbellhyuma: I do03:43
rdallarmihi, does anybody knows , in UIbunut (feisty) what is the root filesystem of the chrooted courier?03:43
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yagamiDexterF, but you're saying it works fine now even on xp/slackware and that hardware faults can be ruled out? if so, i am baffled. might want to download a new copy of ubuntu checksum and try again...i am sure someone else can offer a much better solun.03:43
DaveTheAveBlueKaj: oh.... and that function didn't work03:43
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sivajiAndrew`` tell u partition name it will be like /dev/hdb503:44
DexterFyagami: if all else fails ill hack up a kernel myself. after all, i can get to an tty. kubuntu seems a little bold with new shiny kernel options sometimes.03:44
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hyumadwbell: what style u use for superkaramba?03:45
dwbellhyuma: a hacked up version of glass moniter03:45
hyumawhere you get it?03:46
Andrew``sorry sivaji I am not understanding your broken english03:46
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dwbellhyuma: it's been a look time, just a moment and I'll look03:46
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sivajiAndrew``   ok sorry type this "system:/media"  in konqueror address bar u can see all partitions03:47
hyumathank you dwbell03:47
sivajiAndrew`` fast ple03:47
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Andrew``The file or folder system:media does not exist.03:48
Andrew``oops03:48
Andrew``sorry will try again properly03:48
Andrew``lol03:48
pikkomorning, all...03:48
sivajiAndrew`` mad can u see /  system:/media03:48
dwbellhyuma: glass monitor can be found here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/GlassMonitor+-+DynamicPartition?content=5203803:49
hyumayes03:49
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Andrew``1:cdrom 2:cdrom0 3:floppy 4:floppy003:49
dwbellhyuma: karamba themes in general here: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=3803:50
hyumathanks a lot dwebll now I'm  trying to change traybar too03:50
sivajiAndrew`` ok leave that do u qtparted03:50
Andrew``you want me to type qtparted?03:51
dwbellhyuma: the kicker?03:51
hyumayes03:51
sivajiAndrew`` no .03:52
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dwbellhyuma: to the best of my knowledge that is manual work, right click the kicker choose: panel menu-> configure panel then start playing with settings.03:53
sivajiAndrew`` is there any monitor like icon in u r taskbar03:53
Andrew``no there is no terminal icon03:53
BluesKajin the K-menu , Andrew``03:54
dr_willisi always drag the Konxole icon to my panel first thing.03:54
Andrew``altho I can get to it via system menu03:54
dr_willis:)03:54
hyumadwbell: the kicker style are available on kde-look.org right?03:54
Andrew``ok terminal opened03:54
dr_willisKonsole = terminal, drag it to the Panel so ya got easy access03:54
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sivajiBluesKaj help him to mount windows partitions he doesnt know the name of that partition03:55
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Andrew``BluesKaj: my windows is on "C" drive... hda1 I think03:56
dwbellhyuma: there are some background images and kmenu buttons at kde look but I think you'll have to tweak yourself03:56
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hyumayes I search03:57
sivajiAndrew`` partitions in need to mount tell me u r partition name ntfs or fat03:57
sivajiAndrew`` partitions type is need to mount tell me u r partition name ntfs or fat03:57
Andrew``I think ntfs03:57
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titanix88hendaus: i got an idea.03:58
BluesKajAndrew , which windows ...XP?03:58
Andrew``yes03:58
titanix88hendaus : i got an idea.03:58
Andrew``home03:58
sivajiAndrew`` run this  "mkdir  c"03:58
BluesKajok then it's ntfs ..most likely03:58
titanix88Andrew`` : whaz ur problem?03:58
Andrew``I cant see my windows parttion from kubuntu03:58
titanix88BluesKaj : u seem to hang out in the channel alot!03:59
dwbellsivaji: I really don't want to take over with andrew but maybe a typing df into terminal would help?03:59
BluesKajtitanix88, I have it open , but i'm not always here ...I learn a lot here03:59
Daisuke_Ido!ntfs | Andrew``03:59
ubotuAndrew``: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse03:59
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sivajiAndrew`` then "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 ./c -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000"04:00
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sivajiAndrew`` have u got04:00
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sivajiAndrew`` are u there are not04:02
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rdallarmihi, does anybody knows , in UIbunut (feisty) what is the root filesystem of the chrooted courier?04:04
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dr_willisHuh?04:05
Andrew``hang on sivaji am doing the diskmounter thing04:05
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rdallarmimeaning if, from within the chrooted environment, courier looks at the <chrootbase>/var/mail/vmail  where is that <chrootbase>?04:06
titanix88_Andrew``: made the partition after ubuntu/GNU/Linux installation?04:06
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sivaji Andrew`` u must have some basic knowledge about kubuntu to mount windows partitions so learn kubuntu first04:08
Andrew``my windows is now there! thanks people04:08
sasqehumm, I just installed the "ipod" package and got gnome as a bonus, now when I log in I get gnome instead of KDE... is that normal?04:08
Andrew``and so is my cdrom04:08
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dr_willisipod package?04:08
sasqa tool for reading info from ipod04:08
titanix88_Andrew``: how did it happen suddenly?!!04:08
dr_willisif it had the gnome dependencies.. it sould pull them down.04:08
sivajiAndrew`` u cant write file ntfs partition through linux04:08
sasqyeah but should it change the default environment?04:08
dr_willisyou should be able to select kdm and kde from the login screen04:08
sivajiAndrew`` u cant write file to ntfs partition through linux04:09
dr_willishuh?04:09
dr_willis!ntfs-3g04:09
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions04:09
Andrew``titanix88_:  I did the <ubotu> Andrew``: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse thing04:09
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sasqheh the firefox dexcription; "lightweight web browser" should really be changed...04:11
pikkofirefox has long since been crap04:12
titanix88_Andrew``: get it. i had the same prblm when i tried to connect my friends harddisk. done everything & it worked fine but only with sudo mount. then i figured out making the directory(like /media/sda5) group to plugdev automatically mounts them on login.04:12
dr_willishmm thats the first id heard that fix titanix88_  :)04:12
pikkodoesn't even have firefox installed04:13
dr_willisi just edit my fstab file.04:13
sasqwell konqueror is just not that compatible04:14
titanix88_dr_willis: i didn't say i had not to edit fstab!04:14
pikkocompaatible with what? that is the question,04:14
binkspikko: ok what browser to use04:14
rashid    ?04:14
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binksrashid: errr english please04:15
titanix88_dr_willis: but to make it automountable on login.04:15
pag!ru | rashid04:15
uboturashid:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke04:15
pikkoif you're not an open source only bigot, use Opera. I have since 2000 and it's my favorite browser. Nothing touches it.04:15
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binkspikko: i am no biggot thanks i use whats best for the job04:15
dr_willisI dont care for Opera.  but this is linux.. use what you like.04:15
rdallarmiHi, hi, how can I fond out what user curier deamons run under?04:16
pikkoopera is just the most usable browser out there IMO04:16
pikkobetter features, better security04:16
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binkspikko: can i play shockwave games in opera04:16
pikkoyes, opera supports macromedia plugins04:16
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binksok ill give it ago brb04:17
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pikkomake sure you install opera and then check the plugin paths under prefs... restart opera if the plugins don't take first time04:17
titanix88_pikko: ever used epiphany(gnomes default webbrowser & i hate it for not having any interesting feature in the form of so called simplycity(believe it simpler than gedit)). i also don't appreciate their decision to discontinue galeon in favour of epiphany.04:18
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binksepiphany is poor sorry my 2 pence04:18
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pikkoi don't use GTK stuff, titanix04:18
pikkoi prefer qt environment04:19
sivaji /join ubuntu04:19
sivaji /join #ubuntu04:19
trylephhi04:19
titanix88_pikko: then i'd say konquer it.04:19
pikkoi use knoq and opera04:19
pikkoer, konq04:19
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titanix88_pikko: me fox, konq & galeon(u should try it ).04:20
dr_willislynx :)04:20
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dhuvhello all04:20
pikkotitanix... i don't like galeon... tried it04:20
dhuvI just install the latest kubuntu on my T42 laptop04:20
pikkoopera is a better browser04:20
sivaji!hi | dhuv04:21
ubotudhuv: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!04:21
dhuvits great, most everything works well, just got Amarok to play mp3s04:21
trylephhow install opera via apt-get04:21
dr_willis!opera04:21
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser04:21
dhuvthe problem is that the sound does not work, its detected04:21
titanix88_pikko: gnome should replace epiphany with w3m lol04:21
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dhuvmodule is loaded04:21
dhuveverything is unmuted04:21
dhuvbut no sound04:21
dr_willisat least opera got away from their lame  adware/comercial/oddball licensing stuff.04:21
trylephthanks!04:21
pikkoyou dont... go to opera.com and download it... right click and let kubuntu install the .deb file automagically for you04:21
sivajidhuv kmenu->multimedia->kmix check sound is on04:22
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pikkotitanix... epiphany is nothing but a subset of firefox... gecko rendering engine with a better interface.... that's all... it has no features04:22
trylephinternet its working... but NOT Konqueror04:22
titanix88_anyone used w3m here :) ?04:23
pikkolol04:23
dr_willistitanix88_,  all the time :004:23
dhuvsivaji: it is, the icon is also in the sys tray04:23
dhuvits unmuted and all the way up04:23
ed_betitanix88_: sometimes04:23
BluesKajopera is ok , it does some things that other browsers can't (like preserve and download encrypted pdf files) but it tries to do too much IMO ...the email program is clunky04:23
titanix88_dr_willis: reallllllllly light weight eh??? :)04:24
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pikkoonce you go Opera, you never go back. That's been my experience.04:24
sivajidhuv ok check that04:24
dr_willistitanix88_,  telnet www.google.com04:24
dr_willis:)04:24
dr_willispikko,  trust me..I used Opera and went back....04:24
trylephjust "apt-get firefox" and voila i can surf!, now DIRECTLY to download Opera, cuz rulez!04:24
dr_willis:)04:24
titanix88_dr_willis: lol.04:24
BluesKajwell pikko that's YOUR experience, not mine :)04:25
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pikkothat's people who actually give Opera more than one day's try and care to master it...04:25
BluesKajmaster ?04:26
pikkoonce you actually learn it, it's indispensible04:26
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pikkomaster... you know... english word that means "learn" it through anf through04:26
pikkoer, and04:26
BluesKajwhat's to learn ? ...it's just browser that tries to be all things to all ppl...that seldom works04:27
pikkonot true04:27
titanix88_pikko, BluesKaj: there is internet browser like IE6. i use it with wine. ;) it's totally secured & trusted.04:27
pikkobetter security than any other browser04:27
pikkotitanix... better put your crack pipe away04:27
dhuvpikko: I have to admit that Opera is very fast even on slow computers04:27
dhuvthere are good things about it04:28
BluesKajbah, boot into windows titanix88_ if ya want to use EI04:28
BluesKajor IE even :)04:28
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trylephopera its faster04:28
titanix88_pikko: u don't really believe me to use that junk do u ? :)04:28
sasqwhat is the best place to put a PATH=$PATH:/extra/stuff ? .bashrc, .profile or .bash_profile ... ?04:28
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Ace2016opera is faster but opera doesn't work as well04:29
pikkoi've been a linux user since '98 and an opera user since 2000. I've tried every browser out there.... literally.... moz, galeon, FF, flock, dillo, etc... i always come back to opera04:29
dr_willissasq,  for a single user their .bash_profile most likely04:29
Ace2016opera cannot pann properly while zoomed, i've reported the bug over and over again ever since the very early beta 9 was released, and the devs don't seem to care about the linux version04:29
dr_willisBrower wars are like watching Female Mud Wrestling.. Its fun to watch.. but makes you feel dirty.04:29
BluesKajweel opera saves the last home page to make it look faster, but it isn't really since it has to be refreshed to be up to date .04:30
Andrew``ok now i cant play my mp3s (which are located on my windows drive) any one help me here?04:30
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dr_willisAndrew``,  if you mount the drive properly. you can access the files04:30
Daisuke_Idohave you installed the mp3 codec?04:30
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hendaustitanix88_:  wb04:30
PeterJBhi04:30
titanix88_dr_willis: u r a female(so watching male mud wrsling makes u happy :)?04:31
dr_willisor is theissue the actual mp3 file?04:31
dr_willistitanix88_,   I perfer Jello myself.04:31
Ace2016BluesKaj: i think opera's interface is faster, like opening new tabs and navigation, it for me doesn't freeze the system when i have a lots of tabs open (about 25)04:31
dr_willisLime!04:31
Daisuke_Ido"you" "are" "wrestling"04:31
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sasqdr_willis: hmm, when is that read? only on login ?04:31
Andrew``I can see the files.. but tehy just wont open04:31
Ace2016firefox slows everything down04:31
trylephAndrew: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodec04:31
Daisuke_Idolord, why are people so LAZY?04:31
PeterJByou can tweak firefox so it has a smaller footprint04:31
dr_willissasq,  thers docs on exactly where each is read. bash_profile is read just on the users inintial login (or from a login shell)04:31
titanix88_hendaus: i got a idea to search for .jpg in ur home.Let's go private.04:32
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Daisuke_Idoyou're not texting someone here, you don't have a character limit, it will not kill you to type the extra two letters in a word04:32
dr_willisAndrew``,  you need to install the various mp3 addons/codecs/whatever then for your tool.04:32
Daisuke_Ido</rant>04:32
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binksBluesKaj: you not getting like loads of firefox crashes atm04:32
=== Ace2016 loves zoomed panning, the only unique feature in opera, which happens to be broken in linux :(
binkswhat version you on04:32
=== dr_willis charges Daisuke_Ido .10 for that msg.
ionushow to install VMware-server-1.0.2-39867.i386.rpm.rpm.part04:33
Ace2016opera build 641, version 9.2104:33
Daisuke_Idowhat the...04:33
Daisuke_Idoionus: first of all, download vmware04:33
Ace2016ionus: install it from the repos?04:33
PeterJBthe .part at the end of the vmware file means it hasn't downloaded competely04:33
BluesKajno crashes binks04:33
Daisuke_Idolooks like you used firefox to download that and it's not done04:33
PeterJBuse vmware server instructions04:34
PeterJBhttp://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server04:34
Daisuke_Idoand second, there's no reason anyone in their right mind would use an rpm :)04:34
Ace2016Daisuke_Ido: that .part ending thing is annoying, any way to turn it off?? i download a video, start watching, and it messes up in the middle04:34
Daisuke_Idoi'm not sure04:34
Daisuke_Idonever bothered me, bout the only thing i download via FF are torrent files :)04:35
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titanix88_Daisuke_Ido: i have to sometimes because .deb is not available.04:35
binksDaisuke_Ido: torrent files why not use ktorrent04:35
Daisuke_Idothere is usually a better alternative than rpm.04:36
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Daisuke_Idobinks: i do use ktorrent.  i'm talking about the *.torrent04:36
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Daisuke_Idoand one of the sites i'm a member of is a bit anal about that04:36
DragnslcrWorst case, you can use alien to convert an rpm to a deb04:36
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binksDaisuke_Ido: ok i jumped in both feet as per usuall ha soz04:36
Daisuke_Idono worries04:36
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