[12:14] <PhinnFort> Levi-: what exactly do you want?
[12:14] <Levi-> the old partition takes up the entire disk
[12:15] <Levi-> I dont think theres much i can do
[12:15] <Levi-> -.-
[12:15] <PhinnFort> Levi-: on your slave you have a single partition?
[12:15] <Levi-> Yeah
[12:15] <PhinnFort> Levi-: have you looked into what it contains?
[12:15] <Levi-> hm
[12:15] <Levi-> I dont have enough ram to back it up
[12:15] <PhinnFort> Levi-: hum?
[12:15] <Levi-> if i was to copy all the data to ram
[12:16] <Levi-> as in on the live cds desktop
[12:16] <PhinnFort> Levi-: but what is on that partition?
[12:16] <Levi-> Music I had irreplaceable photos
[12:17] <PhinnFort> Levi-: and you want to back them up somewhere, and then repartition, and use the partition for ubuntu?
[12:17] <PhinnFort> how about uploading them to some online storage?
[12:17] <Levi-> I cant get my desktop online
[12:17] <tom_> burn to dvd?
[12:18] <Levi-> only a CD rw drive
[12:18] <Levi-> and two CD rs
[12:18] <PhinnFort> Levi-: crossed tp-cable and another computer?
[12:18] <tom_> lol
[12:18] <PhinnFort> samba/nfs?
[12:18] <tom_> get another hd lol?
[12:18] <Levi-> lol
[12:18] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:18] <PhinnFort> Levi-: where in the world are you, I have some 10GB's to spare?
[12:19] <Levi-> is ther a way to network two compys together without a router or switch?
[12:19] <tom_> yea
[12:19] <Levi-> Oooohhhh HOw
[12:19] <PhinnFort> Levi-: crossed network cable
[12:19] <Levi-> My laptop has wondows tho
[12:19] <tom_> u need a crossover cable
[12:19] <Levi-> dont have that
[12:19] <PhinnFort> [00:20]  <PhinnFort> Levi-: crossed tp-cable and another computer?
[12:19] <tom_> only cost about 2 quid
[12:19] <Levi-> quid..?
[12:19] <PhinnFort> Levi-: if you're lucky, your NICs will adjust automatically with a normal cable
[12:19] <tom_> sorry, my yorkshire accent, 2
[12:20] <Levi-> which is how much USD
[12:20] <PhinnFort> Levi-: some modern network cards work with just a normal network cable between computers
[12:20] <tom_> $4?
[12:20] <Levi-> Im American
[12:20] <Levi-> lol
[12:20] <tom_> ish
[12:20] <Levi-> Thanks
[12:20] <PhinnFort> Levi-: I got mine for free;)
[12:20] <tom_> depends where u get it frm lol
[12:20] <PhinnFort> (I know the dudes who make them, though)
[12:20] <Levi-> BLah you and your freeness
[12:20] <tom_> make ur own :P
[12:20] <PhinnFort> Levi-: I guess you're in the states?
[12:20] <Levi-> Yes
[12:20] <PhinnFort> too bad...
[12:20] <Levi-> im SOL
[12:20] <PhinnFort> lots of shipping...
[12:20] <Levi-> xD
[12:21] <PhinnFort> ?
[12:21] <Levi-> Sh*t outta luck
[12:21] <PhinnFort> ah...;)
[12:21] <tom_> so get a cable then?
[12:21] <PhinnFort> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOL doesn't mention that...
[12:21] <Levi-> naahhh see that costs money which is something i dont have.... =)
[12:21] <Levi-> well wikipedia is wrong
[12:21] <Levi-> Im gonna add that
[12:21] <tom_> lol tight wad :P
[12:22] <Levi-> lol
[12:22] <DagonX> What is the way to unlock ADD/REMOVE programs
[12:22] <PhinnFort> Levi-: I'm sure you have something you can sell for a couple of "bucks"
[12:22] <PhinnFort> DagonX: ?
[12:22] <Levi-> lopl
[12:22] <Levi-> *lol
[12:22] <Levi-> hm maybe actually
[12:22] <tom_> sell your shoes!
[12:22] <PhinnFort> your grandmotheR?
[12:22] <Levi-> I DO have old arse computer cards
[12:22] <tom_> haha
[12:22] <Levi-> sound cards etc
[12:22] <PhinnFort> Levi-: go trade them in;)
[12:22] <Levi-> I coul
[12:22] <Levi-> d
[12:23] <ubuntu__> booted kubuntu LIVEDVD and  wan  to see vista partition
[12:23] <Levi-> but my dad just took the truck
[12:23] <tom_> meeee
[12:23] <subsonic_> my internet connection is a joke tonight!!!
[12:23] <tom_> free?
[12:23] <ubuntu__> in system settings
[12:23] <DagonX> The add/remove program says the database is locked and it wants a previous opened version close.
[12:23] <PhinnFort> tom_: do you pay the shipping?;)
[12:23] <DagonX> The is after a fresh boot
[12:23] <PhinnFort> !aptfix | DagonX
[12:23] <ubotu> DagonX: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[12:23] <tom_> PhinnFort: hmmmm
[12:23] <PhinnFort> DagonX: capisce?
[12:23] <DagonX> thanks - I will give that a try
[12:24] <PhinnFort> tell me if it works, I won't sleep well tonight
[12:24] <Levi-> my desktop froze
[12:24] <Levi-> great
[12:24] <PhinnFort> fun
[12:24] <Levi-> -.-
[12:24] <PhinnFort> Levi-: sure it's just the harddrive that's b0rked?
[12:25] <Levi-> I was trying to configure wireless
[12:25] <ubuntu__> liveDVD kubuntu boot wont let me peep into existing xp  partitions
[12:25] <PhinnFort> Levi-: alt+prtscr+k
[12:25] <PhinnFort> !ntfs | ubuntu__
[12:25] <ubotu> ubuntu__: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[12:25] <Levi-> what goodll that do me
[12:25] <Levi-> its frozen
[12:25] <PhinnFort> Levi-: it should kill all open programs in current terminal
[12:25] <Levi-> Oh.. I see/
[12:26] <Levi-> well still no luck
[12:26] <PhinnFort> http://lxr.linux.no/source/Documentation/sysrq.txt
[12:26] <Levi-> Igotta remember that one
[12:26] <ubuntu__> PhinnFort: special case livedvd boot
[12:26] <Levi-> PhinnFort, my mouse wouldnt move
[12:26] <dwidmann_> uh oh
[12:26] <ubuntu__> In a future release, when [WWW]  LiveCD does not mount hard disk partitions (yet) is fixed, this step should be almost automatic.
[12:26] <PhinnFort> ubuntu__: well, I'm not very familiary with windows
[12:26] <ubuntu__> PhinnFort:
[12:27] <PhinnFort> Levi-: try whacking it around a bit
[12:27] <DagonX> It worked -- thanks
[12:27] <Levi-> lol
[12:27] <ubuntu__> taken      from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[12:27] <Levi-> Ill tinker with it for awhile
[12:28] <ubuntu__> bad https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/16356
[12:32] <PhinnFort> worse: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1
[12:36] <malaeum> Hello everyone, I am new to kubunut, just installed a few hours ago. Long time linux user though. I am having a bit of trouble getting my system setup. I'm learning the kubuntu way of doing thigns just fine, but I've hit a snag. I am trying to use the monitor configuration in kcontrol (or control-center) and after trying to setup my dual monitors failed, now I can no longer access that control-module.
[12:36] <PhinnFort> malaeum: hit alt+f2, type in "krandrtray" and use the applet that appears in your tray
[12:36] <PhinnFort> malaeum: I and the System Settings Monitor tool are not friends
[12:38] <malaeum> PhinnFort: well that works, but it doesn't allow me to accomplish my goal. I want to setup a dual-monitor desktop, right now my monitors are just "cloning" and all krandr does is allow me to change resolution.
[12:38] <PhinnFort> !dualhead
[12:38] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[12:38] <PhinnFort> !xinerama
[12:38] <ubotu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[12:38] <malaeum> thanks
[12:38] <PhinnFort> yw;)
[12:38] <malaeum> Is there no way to fix that control module though?
[12:39] <PhinnFort> malaeum: I'm not too terribly familiar with it
[12:39] <PhinnFort> malaeum: you could try running systemsettings in a konsole and see what it spits out
[12:40] <malaeum> lots of stuffs, nothing that I saw that was terribly helpful though. I mean it could be to the proper person, but basically its missing a file with an obscure name.
[12:41] <PhinnFort> malaeum: could you paste it somewhere?
[12:41] <malaeum> I've seen this occur and seen quite a few forum posts / bug reports found via google.
[12:41] <PhinnFort> rafb.net/paste maybe
[12:41] <malaeum> one sec, sure.
[12:41] <intelikey> konsole salivates !       yuch!
[12:41] <PhinnFort> rotfl
[12:42] <malaeum> PhinnFort: http://rafb.net/p/DaiWqf38.html
[12:42] <intelikey> trout!
[12:44] <intelikey> \.\* with a \.\* trout!
[12:44] <intelikey> i guess it's the whole line.
[12:45] <malaeum> PhinnFort: you see anything relevant from that output?
[12:46] <PhinnFort> malaeum: it's missing a file, but I can't see which...
[12:47] <malaeum>  PhinnFort thank you python  =\
[12:47] <PhinnFort> ;)
[12:47] <PhinnFort> malaeum: maybe ask in #python for help
[12:47] <malaeum> bah, this has to be fixable, fricken KDE being a PITA.
[12:48] <malaeum> I'm just worried if I've encountered a bug this big on my first day with the OS...
[12:48] <malaeum> the only solution google yielded  was outdated, reinstall a package that no loger exists
[12:49] <intelikey> PhinnFort i'm no programmer, but wouldn't line 43 be just as likely a variable not expanded properly.   thus no file name and therefore no file...  ?
[12:49] <Datalanche> I've never gotten dual head to work properly =/
[12:49] <malaeum> well, hrmm, this post is from yesterday
[12:49] <PhinnFort> intelikey: could be, but I
[12:49] <malaeum> I have in every other OS, including other distros
[12:49] <PhinnFort> 'm not awake enough to form a coherent thought
[12:50] <malaeum> Been a gentoo user for 5 years, finally getting sick of the breakage, so thought I'd give kubunutu a try.
[12:50] <Datalanche> ati driver, fglrx driver, BigDisplay, xinerama, every tutorial on the wikis, nothing works (properly)
[12:51] <intelikey> malaeum expect breakage here too.     hopefully not as much, nor as often; but it'll be here.
[12:51] <Datalanche> But then again I'm not dualing two identify monitors, I need two very different displays at two pretty different resolutions
[12:51] <malaeum> Datalanche: thats unfortunate, I've actually had it working with multiple setups. fglrx using bigdesktop and just a framebuffer with xinerama
[12:51] <malaeum> intelikey: thats fine, and I'd think the solutions are somewhat less obsufucated at times too.
[12:52] <Datalanche> The cloesest I got was getting the resolutions I needed, but it did this stange thing where the bottom left was on monitor 1, and the top with was on monitor 2
[12:52] <Datalanche> top right, rather
[12:52] <malaeum> intelikey: I dont think you'll have near as much due to the fact that this isn't source based and they have to try and account for millions of possible build environment setups.
[12:52] <malaeum> maybe I'll just snag my old xorg.conf off the other drive and see what happens if I try and fire that up.
[12:52] <Datalanche> I've never really had Kubuntu totally break on me... but then again, I don't use backports
[12:53] <intelikey> yes most "fixes" are rather simple and easy to find.      but at times more or less non-existant as well.
[12:53] <PhinnFort> !install
[12:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[12:53] <malaeum> intelikey: my firephoto day here and I see that.
[12:53] <malaeum> what the heck?
[12:53] <malaeum> I didnt type firephoto.
[12:53] <malaeum> odd.
[12:53] <malaeum> anyways, "my first day here and I see that"
[12:53] <intelikey> nick completion
[12:54] <malaeum> ah, must have hit tab.
[12:54] <intelikey> good habit wrong place.
[12:54] <intelikey> :)
[12:54] <malaeum> yeah
[12:55] <malaeum> the one thing that I do miss about gentoo is the terminal's coloriziation, but I am pretty sure thats just a bash hack that I can port on over
[12:55] <fisk0> hello, my Ubuntu (which I've installed and is currently running KDE in) suddenly doesn't allow mounting FAT32 partitions any longer, instead I get an error saying: "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000"
[12:55] <intelikey> yep check the /[etc,~] /[profile,bash.*] 
[12:56] <intelikey> @ malaeum ^
[12:56] <carlos> buenas noches
[12:56] <carlos> hay alguien que able espaol?
[12:56] <Datalanche> !es
[12:56] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:56] <carlos> necesito algo de ayuda xD
[12:57] <lameran> hi
[12:57] <lameran> wussup
[12:57] <lameran> liste
[12:57] <lameran> lisetn
[12:57] <lameran> listen
[12:58] <intelikey> are you lisdexic ?
[12:58] <lameran> wireless?
[12:58] <Datalanche> !wireless
[12:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:59] <lameran> OMFG!!
[12:59] <ejw2076> Is anyone familiar with DMRAID?  I'm trying to set up a raid0 array, but can't figure out how the partitions are going to work.
[12:59] <lameran> looking good
[01:01] <intelikey> t/s
[01:02] <lameran> hi
[01:02] <snowdonkey> Hi.  How do I log onto the Internet using my ISP's username and password?
[01:02] <lameran> Access point?
[01:03] <snowdonkey> To use DSL I have to input a user name and password for my modem.  Not sure what you mean by access point Iameran
[01:03] <intelikey> snowdonkey      network manager ?
[01:03] <makuseru> hi, does anyone know where i can download folding@home for linux? the http://folding.stanford.edu/download.html site i guess got somthing mixed up, because under where it says linux, the downlaod is a .exe
[01:04] <PhinnFort> !folding@home
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about folding@home - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <PhinnFort> !folding
[01:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about folding - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:04] <snowdonkey> intelikey I'm using dapper so network manager not installed by default.  I'll give it a try
[01:05] <lameran> access point?
[01:05] <intelikey> knetworkmanager - User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager
[01:06] <intelikey> i thought it was default on the LTS...  </shrugs>
[01:06] <lameran> and then?
[01:06] <tdn> If I run ktorrent --help-kde, I get the -nocrashhandler option. If I run ktorrent with -nocrashhandler, I still get the crash handler when ktorrent crashes. Why is that?
[01:06] <lameran> I don't see AP
[01:10] <lameran> hello?
[01:10] <lameran> why am I not seeing AP (aka Access Point
[01:10] <lameran> )
[01:10] <Daisuke_Ido> tdn: sounds more like a question for ktorrent's forum
[01:10] <snowdonkey_> Howdy.  Does anyone know where I can input my ISP's username and password to use DSL?  I installed network manager but a binary wasn't installed on my system.  prolly b/c I'm usnig dapper
[01:11] <Daisuke_Ido> like PPPoE?
[01:11] <intelikey> never heard of it lameran
[01:11] <tdn> Can I add links to folders in the Quicklauncher?
[01:12] <tdn> Daisuke_Ido, hmm... Why is that? I think this is an option that is on almost every K application.
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> tdn: and if it's NOT on ktorrent, then it's a problem for ktorrents' developers
[01:13] <lameran> anyone with me?
[01:13] <intelikey> snowdonkey_ "but a binary wasn't installed on my system" ???   did you not see the post i made on that?    <intelikey> knetworkmanager - User friendly KDE frontend for NetworkManager
[01:13] <tdn> Daisuke_Ido, ok.
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> you just answered your own question :)
[01:13] <lameran> O$ X and m$ XP work outta the box
[01:13] <lameran> what's wrong with Kutubntu
[01:13] <lameran> ?
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> that's "OS X" and "MS"
[01:13] <snowdonkey_> intelikey ah, thanks.  I actually didn't see that.  :)
[01:13] <Daisuke_Ido> bashing other OSes isn't what we do here
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> and kubuntu isn't the others, don't make the mistake of thinking it is.
[01:14] <lameran> I aint bashing
[01:14] <lameran> just pointing out the fact
[01:14] <kane> linux != windows != mac
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> linux requires a little more work on your part.  stop and think about what's wrong.  i already asked if you were dealing with PPPoE
[01:14] <Daisuke_Ido> no, that was snowdonkey
[01:15] <kane> my nvidia graphics card doesnt work on my machine that i installed OSX on, thats an issue with OSx right?
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> you have wireless problems
[01:15] <Daisuke_Ido> what's your wireless chipset?
[01:15] <intelikey> ooooh yuch  the order in that equation is sujestive and i don't like the sujestion.... @ kane   ;/
[01:15] <lameran> thZyDASis is my card
[01:16] <kane> hehe...
[01:16] <lameran> Zydas using zd1222 rw driver
[01:16] <fisk0> nobody got a solution for my fat32 mounting problem?
[01:16] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: the order doesn't matter in that as there's no less than/greater than comparison going on
[01:16] <lameran> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"zd1211" <-- this ok?
[01:17] <tdn> How do I add a link to a folder in the Quicklaunch panel?
[01:17] <lameran> oh my god
[01:17] <fisk0> by the way, how much work is it to make new themes/window decorations? I can't find any good ones
[01:18] <lameran> yo, anyone succesful with Zydas in setting it as AP?
[01:18] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido yes i think i grasp the basic concept in the mathmatical sense  it's  the language sense that bothered me :)     normally people do follow a progression or regression when listing things consecutively like that...
[01:18] <lameran> sharing ethernet
[01:18] <lameran> thankjs
[01:19] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: true enough
[01:19] <lameran> so any ideas?
[01:19] <intelikey> fisk0 right click and configure...  about all there is to it.
[01:19] <snowdonkey_> intelikey Are you sure there is a network-manager for KDE in Dapper repositories?
[01:20] <tdn> How do I set Dolphin as the default file browser instead of Konqi?
[01:20] <lameran> if I change the settings with IWconfig will KDE chewGUIm mess it up?
[01:20] <lameran> just axing
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> asking.
[01:20] <lameran> how do I find out if the chipset supports AP to begin with
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm guessing maybe the manufacturer's site?
[01:21] <intelikey> snowdonkey_ i am running dapper.   no special repos enabled just main/universe/multiverse  and i got that stright from apt-cache search network     so i think it's there.
[01:21] <lameran> na
[01:21] <lameran> there's gotta be al inux solution
[01:21] <lameran> please guys don't let me donw!!!
[01:22] <lameran> Ubuntu reputation is at STAKE
[01:22] <lameran> you want ppl feel good about Kubtnub or not?
[01:22] <Daisuke_Ido> linux isn't a magic wand to be waved, no reputation is at stake except for yours as someone who apparently has never heard of google.
[01:22] <usagi__> Can anyone tell me why is it that I can load xgl on one account, but it crashes on the rest?
[01:23] <Daisuke_Ido> usagi__: are you using an ati or nvidia card?
[01:23] <usagi__> Daisuke_Ido: Yes. Ati 200m.
[01:23] <intelikey> lameran secondarily the reputation of *buntu is hardly our concern.
[01:23] <lameran> the reputation of Linux is at STAKE!!!
[01:24] <lameran> kubuntu is representative of linux
[01:24] <gemidjy> how can I tell dhcp not to overwrite my /etc/resolv.conf with its DNS's ?
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> lameran: the reputation of trolls is at STAKE!!!
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> so quit f-ing trolling.
[01:24] <usagi__> Trolls should grow up.
[01:24] <tdn> How do I set Dolphin as the default file browser instead of Konqi? I cannot do it from Default Applications.
[01:24] <fisk0> intelikey: if that was the answer for my mounting problems it doesn't work, I've tried looking through what konqueror says about my harddrives in the Media tab, but it just doesn't work. And the partitions mounted fine and automatically just a week or two ago
[01:24] <knapp> Is there a way to unrar a file even if the other parts are not present? (ie just unrar part 1 of 8, for example)
[01:24] <lameran> oh thanks
[01:25] <Daisuke_Ido> if it weren't for your windows "give it to me NOW" mentality and the oh-so-lovely melodrama, you might have gotten somewhere with your query.
[01:26] <Daisuke_Ido> knapp: it should stop automatically, probably error out because there will be files it expects that aren't there...
[01:27] <knapp> Daisuke_ldo, it gives an error, but is there no way it can extract only that portion of the file?
[01:27] <intelikey> fisk0 no that post to you was about making themes
[01:27] <usagi__> Daisuke_Ido: Do I have to do a driver/xgl install for each account?
[01:27] <intelikey> fisk0 what is the disk issue ?
[01:27] <fisk0> ahh, okay
[01:27] <Daisuke_Ido> usagi__: you shouldn't have to, no
[01:28] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not particularly up on ati cards though :(
[01:28] <Daisuke_Ido> knapp: that's what i'm trying to figure out...  there should be a way to do it
[01:28] <lameran> yeah, actually linux survived its early ages without lusrs, just with a bunch of ultra-geeks
[01:28] <usagi__> Daisuke_Ido: hmmmmm Just strange it loads on the first ne and crashes on the rest.
[01:28] <lameran> quite surprising
[01:28] <fisk0> intelikey: I wrote this about 10 minutes ago: "my Ubuntu (which I've installed and is currently running KDE in) suddenly doesn't allow mounting FAT32 partitions any longer, instead I get an error saying: "hal-storage-fixed-mount refused uid 1000""
[01:28] <PhinnFort> I can confirm that the Ubuntu CD's survives several minutes in +100 degrees  celsius
[01:29] <PhinnFort> in water
[01:29] <PhinnFort> aka. boiled
[01:29] <lameran> hey my wireless shows up as eth1, shouldn't be wlan0?
[01:29] <fisk0> and I'm not that used to Linux yet, only had the ubuntu installation for a month
[01:29] <lameran> and I think it can only work as AD HOC and base stattion
[01:29] <lameran> so no AP
[01:29] <intelikey> fisk0 ok  pastebin the output of    cat /etc/fstab /proc/partitions      for me please
[01:29] <Daisuke_Ido> knapp: found the solution to your problem
[01:30] <intelikey> !paste | fisk0
[01:30] <ubotu> fisk0: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> unrar x -kb file
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> (kb = keep broken)
[01:30] <lameran> oh man, it seems that I will have to do my homework on this
[01:30] <fisk0> ok
[01:31] <lameran> I've never set up AD HOC with linux nor AP
[01:31] <knapp> hmm
[01:31] <lameran> why NetworkAdmin doesn't have a buttin called AD HOC
[01:31] <lameran> does it go by another name?
[01:32] <lameran> also no choice for choosing channels
[01:32] <lameran> wait a minute, it SHOULD work as an AP because it works in m$$ XP
[01:33] <knapp> daisuke_ldo, thanks a bunch, that worked.
[01:33] <fisk0> intelikey: It wont allow me to open /proc/partitions
[01:33] <intelikey> fisk0 sudo cat /proc/partitions
[01:33] <fisk0> intelikey: here is fstab anyway http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23661/
[01:34] <fisk0> ok, intelikey
[01:34] <intelikey> lameran if you can't get answers here you can try other channels.    ##linux ##linuxhelp #ubuntu  and others...
[01:34] <Daisuke_Ido> knapp: you're welcome :)
[01:34] <lameran> intelikey: I see
[01:35] <lameran> anyways Gentoo folks will tell me everything
[01:35] <fisk0> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23662/
[01:35] <lameran> sorry I apologize
[01:35] <DagonX> when trying to add programs the Adept Installer keeps giving saying there was an error commiting the changes. What is the solution?
[01:36] <benny> oi
[01:36] <intelikey> fisk0 ok it's hda1 or hda2 in question ?
[01:36] <benny> alguem do Brasil?
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> DagonX: go to a console and type 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[01:37] <fisk0> intelikey: well, all of them actually, except for hda4 and hda7 which are linux partitions
[01:37] <fisk0> intelikey: since about a week none of the fat partitions mount anymore
[01:38] <ZhayTee> Hullo.
[01:38] <lameran> fisk0:  why not?
[01:38] <intelikey> fisk0 ok;  in a konsole enter: sudo mkdir -p /media/hda[1-8]  ;sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[01:38] <intelikey> tell me what it says     but don't flood the channel if it's more than a line or two don't paste it here.
[01:39] <fisk0> intelikey: is [1-8]  part of the command I should enter, or does it just mean "any of them"? :)
[01:39] <intelikey> yes just like i typed it
[01:40] <intelikey> ooops.  no it didn't expand.
[01:40] <ZhayTee> Does KDE mount USB storage devices automatically?
[01:40] <intelikey> sorry
[01:40] <Biovore> ZhayTee: I dose here..
[01:40] <Biovore> (it)
[01:40] <ZhayTee> It isn't mounting my external USB hard drive automatically. ;_;
[01:40] <ZhayTee> Hmm...
[01:40] <intelikey> fisk0 just 1  not [1-8]    shell should expand that but doesn't
[01:40] <DagonX> Daisuke_Ido I tried that and get the following: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:40] <DagonX> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:40] <fisk0> ok, intelikey
[01:41] <intelikey> !adeptcrashfix | DagonX
[01:41] <ubotu> DagonX: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[01:41] <Biovore> ZhayTee: try a dmsg in a konsole so see if the kernel even sees it.. IF it dose then something is messed with hal or udev
[01:41] <ZhayTee> Yeah, the kernel sees it. And I can even mount it manually from the console.
[01:41] <fisk0> intelikey: that worked, it mounted fine and said nothing at all in the shell
[01:42] <intelikey> fisk0 ok i'm not sure what your error was then.   it's obviously something to do with the "automounting" processes of kde  (hal maybe)
[01:42] <DagonX> thanks
[01:43] <fisk0> intelikey: ok, thank you. I'll try loading gnome again, and see if it works there
[01:43] <intelikey> fisk0 the same can be done for any fs/partition   but note that you won't have write access without adding some args.    we can ammend your fstab to always mount your fat partitions if you like
[01:44] <Datalanche> In Konqueror, is there a way I can set it so that when I change view modes, the search bar on the right of the location bar doesn't go away? I don't see anything in the "Configure Toolbars" settings
[01:44] <tdn> Why can't anyone tell me how to add links to folders in the Quicklauncher? Haven't anyone tried this?
[01:45] <snowdonkey__> intelikey thanks for you help, I got it to work.  I had to install pppoe and run pppoeconf to configure modem access
[01:45] <fisk0> intelikey: yes, thank you, I remember editing the fstab several years ago when I tried Suse, but I don't remember anything of what I was supposed to enter
[01:46] <intelikey> fisk0 a line like this in /etc/fstab without the quotes "/dev/hda1 /media/hda1 vfat defaults,dmask=000,fmask=111 0 0"    for that particular partition.
[01:46] <intelikey> snowdonkey__ welcome.
[01:47] <Sanne> tdn: I didn't try it, but I would do it like this: create a launcher for konqueror, then add the folder path to the command so that it reads something like: konqueror /my/path/to/folder
[01:47] <fisk0> ok, intelikey, thank you
[01:48] <intelikey> fisk0 i should caution about ntfs while supported the software the needs to be used is still beta, so excessive use may be a bad idea,   see the infonodes from ubotu  !ntfs !ntfs-3g
[01:49] <intelikey> !ntfs
[01:49] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[01:49] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g
[01:49] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[01:49] <tdn> Sanne, hmm... Ok. But I don't think my grandma would be able to do that. This should be possible to do via the UI.
[01:49] <fisk0> ok intelikey, I got a ntfs partition, but there is nothing I need to access in linux on it, only the windows XP system files, every personal stuff is stored elsewhere (but I remember that gnome actually mounted it automatically too)
[01:49] <Sanne> tdn: then I don't know, sorry. And don't underestimate grandmas ;)
[01:50] <tdn> Sanne, hehe.
[01:50] <fisk0> intelikey: thank you a lot for your help
[01:50] <dinlinux_> hi, some know about DHT of ktorrent
[01:50] <intelikey> fisk0 ok. any time.
[01:50] <lameran> hi
[01:50] <lameran> I cna't install irssi
[01:50] <lameran> it tells me NO RESULST
[01:50] <lameran> wtf??!!
[01:50] <dinlinux_> hi, somebody know about DHT of ktorrent?
[01:50] <intelikey> apt-cache search irc
[01:51] <intelikey> @ lameran
[01:51] <lameran> ah thanks
[01:51] <intelikey> dinlinux_ sorry !i
[01:51] <Biovore> dinlinux_: give it a port.. and make sure its open to the outside.. it works if everything is setup..
[01:51] <lameran> intelikey: and then?
[01:52] <intelikey> lameran sudo apt-get install <the name selected from the list>
[01:52] <Sanne> tdn: hm, when you drag a path url from the konqueror location bar to the quick launch bar, it actually gives to options how I could add it. Did you try that?
[01:52] <lameran> got it
[01:52] <intelikey> !apt | lameran
[01:52] <ubotu> lameran: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[01:53] <tdn> Sanne, your approach with the link to konqi and command line args does not work. You cannot specify arguments for  apps in Quicklauncher. Only on the Panel.
[01:53] <dinlinux_> biovore: where can i check the port?
[01:53] <lameran> OMG gonna have to brake my balls now treying to figure this AP thingy o
[01:53] <lameran> out
[01:54] <tdn> Sanne, I did not try that. Doing it now.
[01:54] <tdn> Sanne, it works like a charm. Thank you!
[01:54] <Biovore> dinlinux_: don't remember of the top of my head..  I don't use it that much.. I run a remote torrent system in a datacenter.. works better then on a homebased ISP.
[01:54] <Sanne> tdn: awesome :) you're welcome.
[01:54] <intelikey> !language | lameran body parts are kind of private and,
[01:54] <ubotu> lameran body parts are kind of private and,: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:55] <dinlinux_> biovore: ty
[01:55] <intelikey> LeeJunFan comming or going ?
[01:56] <LeeJunFan> intelikey: heh, coming.
[01:56] <intelikey> good i'm on my way out and just looking for someone to hand the septor to on my way out.     (tag you're it)   :)
[01:57] <lameran> OMG I run command irssi and it's not showing up
[01:57] <chenox> hola
[01:57] <lameran> oh my bad
[01:57] <chenox> vaya irc con kubuntu
[01:57] <intelikey> have a great big day and a very healthy penguin.   and shalom be with you.
[01:58] <chenox> joooodddr
[01:58] <chenox> k pasada
[01:58] <chenox> alguien k hable espaol?
[01:58] <Sanne> !es | chenox
[01:58] <ubotu> chenox: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:01] <guille> hi
[02:01] <chenox> hola, como puedo acceder a canales espaoles?
[02:01] <guille> acceder caales espaoles de ubuntu?
[02:02] <Sanne> !es | chenox
[02:02] <ubotu> chenox: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[02:02] <chenox> sip
[02:02] <guille> Hay tienes la respuesta
[02:03] <chenox> gracias guille
[02:03] <Daskreech> Heeeellllooooo good people
[02:04] <guille> what was the name of the latest ati dirver for video card?
[02:06] <guille> mp3 for amarok?
[02:07] <LjL> tdn: browse to any folder in Konqueror, right click on a folder icon, click "Open With", select "Dolphin", and tick "Remember file association"
[02:07] <Daskreech> !mp3 | guille
[02:07] <ubotu> guille: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:11] <Datalanche> In Konqueror, is there a way I can set it so that when I change view modes, the search bar on the right of the location bar doesn't go away? I don't see anything in the "Configure Toolbars" settings
[02:13] <Daskreech> Datalanche: far as my knowledge takes me . No
[02:13] <Solarus> guys I am just going through the partitioning part of the install on 7.04
[02:14] <Solarus> I have XP installed on the first half of the disc and I don't want to mess it up
[02:14] <Solarus> which option should I choose?
[02:14] <fildo> manual
[02:14] <pawitp> Manual is safest
[02:15] <Solarus> do I only need 2 mounts? / and swap?
[02:15] <Daisuke_Ido> Solarus: at minimum, yes
[02:15] <Daisuke_Ido> but you probably want something in /media for your windows drive
[02:15] <Solarus> my storage will be on a seperate array so that is what I am after
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> but we'll worry about that later :)
[02:16] <Solarus> what is the suggested swap for a machine with 2gb mem?
[02:16] <Daskreech> Solarus: First time playing with Linux?
[02:16] <Solarus> nope
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> i would say 3gb
[02:16] <Solarus> first time on kubuntu
[02:16] <Daskreech> Solarus: anything bigger than 1 GB is probably wasted
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> i always heard 150% of ram
[02:16] <Solarus> I am a redhat/fedora guy usually
[02:16] <Solarus> me too for redhat
[02:16] <Daskreech> Daisuke_Ido: basically up to 1GB of RAM
[02:16] <Daisuke_Ido> but that may have changed with large amounts of ram :)
[02:17] <Solarus> 3gb was my guess
[02:17] <Solarus> yes I agree
[02:17] <Daskreech>  after that ... unless you are running databases
[02:17] <Solarus> I am actually
[02:17] <Solarus> runing my sql but not large ones really
[02:17] <Daskreech> Solarus: How many connections?
[02:17] <Solarus> just for managing my media..  photo's, movies etc etc
[02:17] <guille> mp3
[02:17] <Daskreech> !mp3
[02:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:17] <Solarus> minimal
[02:18] <Daskreech> Solarus: I think that 1GB should be ok
[02:18] <Solarus> thanks
[02:18] <pawitp> Solarus: 1GB should be enouh
[02:18] <Daskreech> most of that will sit in RAM
[02:22] <Solarus> will grub auto pickup my xp installation do you think?
[02:22] <SlimeyPete> it should do
[02:22] <Daskreech> Solarus: yeah
[02:22] <skarface> if you're installing ubuntu after windows, it should
[02:22] <Solarus> well it found my array too by the look of it :-)
[02:23] <Solarus> yes I have
[02:23] <Solarus> I am building a media pc for the lounge room with HD an what not
[02:24] <Solarus> I have installed both XP MCE and am installing this with linux mce on it in a bit
[02:24] <Solarus> hopefully this one is better but I will have both to be sure
[02:24] <Daskreech> Which?
[02:24] <Solarus> linux
[02:24] <Daskreech> Which mce?
[02:24] <Solarus> :-)
[02:25] <Solarus> Linuxmce
[02:25] <Daskreech> there are a dozen
[02:25] <Solarus> linuxmce.com
[02:25] <Daskreech> oh ok
[02:25] <Daskreech> Duh :)
[02:25] <Solarus> sorry
[02:25] <Solarus> the other reason I wanted xp on it is for occasional games of Fifa 07 on the big screen telly :-)
[02:26] <Daskreech> Whoot!
[02:26] <Solarus> there doesn't really seem to be that many emulators good enough yet for linux to run DirectX games
[02:26] <Daskreech> Cedega isn't bad
[02:27] <Solarus> I will check it out
[02:27] <Daskreech> not quite as good an emulator as Windows though :)
[02:27] <Solarus> lol
[02:27] <Solarus> If I can get my office products and what not over I may just keep windows for games :-)
[02:28] <timmay> anyone know an IAX program besides iaxcomm, kiax and gnophone
[02:28] <premier_> how much memory should kubuntu take? I have 2GB of ram plus 2GB of swap, linux currently uses 1.931GB of ram and 33MB of swap
[02:28] <Daskreech> !find iax
[02:28] <ubotu> Found: iaxcomm, iaxmodem, kiax, libiax-dev, libiax0 (and 1 others)
[02:28] <premier_> I have 143MB free
[02:28] <timmay> bah
[02:28] <timmay> was affraid of that
[02:28] <Daskreech> timmay: No? :-)
[02:29] <timmay> nope :(
[02:29] <Daskreech> timmay: do a search on google.com/linux
[02:29] <timmay> okie thanks
[02:29] <Daskreech> premier_: all of it
[02:29] <premier_> Daskreech: so, its using all the availibale space as cache or whatever?
[02:30] <Daskreech> premier_: yeah
[02:30] <pawitp> I have 1Gig of ram with no swap used
[02:30] <Daskreech> premier_: Didn't you buy the RAM to be used? :-)
[02:30] <premier_> Daskreech: what makes linux run smoothly?  I mean, how can I make sure that nothing is slowing it down?
[02:30] <premier_> Daskreech: I don't think my computer is running as fast as it should be
[02:31] <Daskreech> premier_:  It's not running smoothly?
[02:31] <premier_> umm... idk
[02:32] <premier_> Its a bit slowing in booting... by the time it gets to the desktop, it still grinds for a minute or two before its done loading all my stuff
[02:32] <Daskreech> premier_: ahh you have sessions on
[02:32] <Daskreech> If you like you can turn that off
[02:32] <BB22> any good torrent site for movies?
[02:33] <Daskreech> BB22: Wrong chan
[02:33] <BB22> Daskreech whats the right channel?
[02:33] <premier_> Daskreech: well, sort kinda... I don't have saved sessions, rather I saved a session a while ago that has a few primary applications... but the only heavy one there is amarok
[02:33] <premier_> oh, and kontact
[02:33] <Daskreech> BB22: not this one
[02:33] <Datalanche> BB22: deepdiscount.com
[02:33] <Datalanche> All the movies you'd ever want ;)
[02:34] <Daskreech> premier_: yeah they both run pretty deep databases
[02:36] <BB22> Datalanche not opening
[02:36] <premier_> hi, I'm trying to get beryl working... I stumped the guys at #beryl
[02:36] <Daskreech> !beryl
[02:36] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[02:37] <Solarus> I am getting so hacked off with vista
[02:37] <Daskreech> Solarus: great operating system
[02:38] <Daskreech> in about 2-3 years
[02:38] <premier_> Solarus: "hacked off"?
[02:38] <hendaus> !vcdgear
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcdgear - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:38] <Daskreech> at which point it will be obviously outdated  :-(
[02:38] <hendaus> anyone helps me with vcdgear for kubuntu? thanx
[02:38] <Daskreech> hendaus: what's vcdgear?
[02:38] <Solarus> yeah
[02:38] <premier_> Daskreech: in 2-3, linux will be user freindly enough for most people to use... vista will be pretty useless by then
[02:39] <Daskreech> premier_: yeah yeah :) that's what they all say :)
[02:39] <hendaus> Daskreech:  vcdgear a convertor
[02:39] <Solarus> I am sure they run swearing monitors in here so hacked of is about as bad as I will get for now :-)
[02:39] <Daskreech> hendaus: from puppy dogs to kittens?
[02:39] <premier_> Solarus: actually, no, but you shouldn't swear
[02:39] <Daskreech> !language
[02:39] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:39] <Solarus> ll
[02:39] <Solarus> there we go! ;-)
[02:40] <Solarus> here we go on the reboot
[02:40] <Solarus> lets see if I get the option for xp
[02:40] <premier_> Daskreech: vcdgear allows you to convert from m/s to m/s^2
[02:40] <Daskreech> !info vcdgear
[02:40] <ubotu> Package vcdgear does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[02:41] <Daskreech> Might not have a ubuntu package
[02:41] <premier_> whats the conversion factor again?  1 m/s = 10.7 m/s^2
[02:41] <Daskreech> Check to see if there is a debian package
[02:41] <Solarus> yes I did
[02:41] <chip273> hello
[02:42] <chip273> any idea how I can get my soundcard settings right with an G732 notebook ?
[02:43] <Solarus> failed to boot
[02:43] <Solarus> something came up in the list as failed and it rebooted
[02:44] <Solarus> second time around however, it seems fine ??
[02:44] <Solarus> seems a bit weird?
[02:45] <Daskreech> !laptop
[02:45] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[02:46] <Daskreech> chip273: ^^^
[02:47] <chip273> Thx will look at there but my problem ist that I get choppy sound with any linux distro, was not like that prior to 2004 .. What has changed ?
[02:49] <Daskreech> chip273: Drivers maybe?
[02:50] <chip273> Yea, but how do I get it to work back. It's a general Problem I have with linux, no good guides, or they are way too outdated.
[02:50] <Daskreech> crimsun: hello?
[02:50] <crimsun> Daskreech: ?
[02:50] <pawitp> chip723: make sure you're not setting the sound at 8bit
[02:51] <Daskreech> crimsun: sorry to bother chip273 was having some issues with his sound. He says that it chops
[02:51] <chip273> Look, that's exactly my problem, I have no idea how to do that !
[02:51] <altg> hie all
[02:52] <altg> is there anybody inthere
[02:52] <Daisuke_Ido> just nod if you can hear me
[02:52] <crimsun> chip273: does ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' in a Konsole "chop"?
[02:53] <chip273> crimsun : yep, asound any wav file does also chop
[02:53] <chip273> *aplay i mean.
[02:54] <crimsun> chip273: what about ``aplay -Dplughw:0 /usr/share/sounds/*up.wav'' ?
[02:57] <chip273> crimsun: that makes a Device or resource busy.
[02:58] <chip273> crimsun : aplay: main:550 Error opening audiodevice : Device or resource busy . to be exact.
[02:58] <crimsun> chip273: so stop arts and all other audio apps before you try that command.
[02:59] <Whopper> How do I add this key: e verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[02:59] <iswm> Just got kubuntu installed on my thinkpad x60s, but knetworkmanager decided it wanted to stop showing me wireless networks... Anyone have an idea of what might be going on?
[03:00] <Daskreech> iswm: Did you turn wireless off?
[03:00] <chip273> crimsun: how do I stop arts ?
[03:00] <iswm> Daskreech, no, it's on
[03:01] <crimsun> chip273: use kcontrol or KDE System Settings
[03:01] <Daskreech> iswm: physically and in software?
[03:01] <trojjer> okay I've read the Wiki and it says that you shouldn't really upgrade from Ubu 6.06 to 7.04, without first going via 6.10... has anyone done it?
[03:01] <trojjer> (hi room)
[03:01] <Daskreech> trojjer: the wiki is right
[03:01] <iswm> Daskreech, yes
[03:01] <trojjer> damnit
[03:02] <trojjer> I've had the LTS CD sitting around for months
[03:02] <Daskreech> :-)
[03:02] <trojjer> only just decided to install
[03:02] <trojjer> recently
[03:02] <Daskreech> trojjer: alternate or Live?
[03:02] <trojjer> had to download tons of packages
[03:02] <trojjer> Ubuntu Live, Dapper
[03:02] <defcon> is there a script I can get to mount and set disks to automount in fstab?
[03:03] <trojjer> (I'm in #Kubuntu because it's my first time using Konversation, lol... I happen to be on GNOME, although I installed KDE and it's my default login)
[03:03] <Daskreech> trojjer: Probably faster to get the Feisty cd then :)
[03:04] <Daskreech> defcon: fstab is the script to get disks to automount
[03:04] <trojjer> (I'm trying to decide which one to use most, but so far none of them are much faster than the bloody Live CD, damnit... it was good that I finally got around to cleaning my old HD up, but I'm a Windows convert who got sick of reading up on GNU/Linux stuff without experiencing it much first hand)
[03:04] <chip273> crimsun: Now it works with -Dplughw:0 but it is still choppy although less choppy.
[03:04] <defcon> Daskreech, is there something that automates fstab because I dont understand it
[03:04] <crimsun> chip273: pastebin your `/proc/interrupts'
[03:05] <cntb> on kubuntu livedvd what would be the resue menu to correct grub install ?
[03:05] <trojjer> (Basic specs: Athlon XP 2000 w/512MB RAM, 40GB hard drive... the RAM usage is okay apart from Firefox, arghhh)
[03:05] <Daskreech> defcon: You can try alt+space -> system -> (press enter) -> Advanced -> Disks and file systems
[03:05] <cntb> on kubuntu livedvd what would be the rescue menu to correct grub install ? edgy and dapper used to have a resue line in menu
[03:06] <defcon> alt-space doesnt work Daskreech
[03:06] <cntb> on kubuntu livedvd what would be the rescue menu to correct grub install ? edgy and dapper used to have a rescue line in menu
[03:06] <Daskreech> !grub | cntb
[03:06] <ubotu> cntb: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:06] <Daskreech> defcon: in KDE?
[03:06] <trojjer> (I daresn't take XP off my laptop yet lol... might do a dualboot at some point though... it's the PC I use the most)
[03:06] <defcon> gnome
[03:06] <Daskreech> defcon: ah
[03:06] <defcon> whats the app I can run it
[03:06] <defcon> i have kde installed
[03:06] <Daskreech> defcon: umm not sure what the Gnome one is
[03:07] <Daskreech> defcon: SHouldn't they turn up in Natilus?
[03:07] <defcon> dont know
[03:07] <Daskreech> trojjer: I'm sorry what's the question?
[03:07] <cntb> Daskreech, tyvm but... those place teach to replace MBR.and this is not permissible with vista
[03:08] <trojjer> thanks for the offer
[03:08] <cntb> Daskreech, unless articles are updated to include vista dual boot solution
[03:08] <Daskreech> cntb: Hmm hold on
[03:09] <Daskreech> cntb: http://apcmag.com/5046/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux_vista_installed_first
[03:09] <defcon> Daskreech, how do I get a drive uuid
[03:09] <defcon> ?
[03:09] <trojjer> firstly, why's both KDE and GNOME so slooow to respond? I have 512MB RAM, which isn't usually a problem apart from when I get overly ambitious with Firefox... processor usage is usually down too
[03:09] <trojjer> It seems that GNOME uses nearly twice as much idle RAM too, than KDE
[03:09] <Daskreech> defcon: I'm not sure I think that it's from the Label...
[03:10] <Daskreech> trojjer: Yeah KDE uses more RAM on startup but Gnome will rapidly race past that if you open a lot of apps or have firefox open for a good browsing session
[03:10] <chip273> crimsun: sorry for my speed, is on another machine : here http://www.ubuntuusers.de/paste/11317/
[03:11] <trojjer> oh, and can anyone help me with the Update Manager? It keeps telling me about updates that are available, but from the moment I login it tells me that another pack-man is running in the background
[03:11] <trojjer> (this applies for both GNOME and KDE)
[03:12] <Daskreech> !adept crash fix | trojjer
[03:12] <ubotu> trojjer: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 
[03:12] <trojjer> (ever since I downloaded a load of things in Synaptic, and let the Update Manager go ahead and fetch 200+ files...)
[03:12] <trojjer> (or MB whatever lol)
[03:12] <trojjer> ahh might be that
[03:12] <trojjer> which solution is more likely? ;)
[03:12] <trojjer> the manual unlock thing?
[03:12] <Daskreech> trojjer: yeah
[03:13] <trojjer> I could try the simple crash fix line?
[03:13] <trojjer> (btw is this fixed yet? You'd think the newer releases would improve on this...)
[03:14] <chip273> crimsun: You still there ?
[03:14] <trojjer> (I remember trying to cancel it because it was downloading so much at once, but it crashed at that point)
[03:14] <Daskreech> trojjer: crashes can happen and if they do the database gets locked
[03:14] <Daskreech> it'll happen
[03:14] <trojjer> gotcha
[03:14] <trojjer> so the easiet thing to try is your line?
[03:15] <trojjer> (no GUI solution?)
[03:15] <Daskreech> trojjer: It's the fastest solution :)
[03:15] <trojjer> (I'm not afraid of the terminal too much but it's quite daunting lol)
[03:15] <trojjer> hah
[03:16] <Daskreech> Why would  the terminal daunt you? :-)
[03:16] <trojjer> Alt+F2 should be okay? (Oh and is there anyway I can reduce the sheer amount of nagging I get for the password? I know that it's for my own good, but how can people criticise Vista for the nag screens when this seems worse?)
[03:17] <Daskreech> cntb: or http://apcmag.com/5045/how_to_dual_boot_vista_with_linux
[03:17] <Daskreech> trojjer: yeah You can shut them off. they are for your own good though :)
[03:17] <trojjer> lol
[03:18] <trojjer> it's fucking annoying though
[03:18] <dogatemycomputer> trojjer: they are easy to shutoff but i'm not sure you would want too.  Once you get your basic setup done.. you'll rarely ever see the prompt again.
[03:18] <trojjer> I want to change the time in peace!
[03:18] <trojjer> hmm
[03:18] <trojjer> seriously?
[03:18] <fxch> Hello, everyone!
[03:18] <dogatemycomputer> trojjer: if you want to turn them off then do a google for visudo..
[03:18] <Daskreech> !langauge | trojjer
[03:18] <ubotu> trojjer: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:18] <trojjer> I got so sick of my pwd that I changed it to a weak 4 letter one, which needs changed pronto... although I added 2 numbers at the end, and it's a bit better
[03:18] <dogatemycomputer> !sudoers
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:18] <dogatemycomputer> !visudo
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about visudo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <Daskreech> heehee
[03:19] <pawitp> !sudo
[03:19] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:19] <trojjer> I know what sudo is
[03:19] <Daskreech> Solarus: that Looks like a fun ride i wanna get on :)
[03:20] <trojjer> but the nags for the pwd is annoying lol
[03:20] <kane> trojjer: everyone likes good passwords.
[03:20] <fxch> English?
[03:20] <Daskreech> fxch: yes
[03:21] <Daskreech> trojjer: how many other people have an account?
[03:21] <dogatemycomputer> trojjer:  basically.. if you are comfortable enough.. "sudo visudo" then add "trojjer ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" to the last line in the file.
[03:21] <Daskreech> dogatemycomputer: noooooo
[03:21] <dogatemycomputer> lol
[03:21] <dogatemycomputer> no? ;)
[03:21] <trojjer> ah yes, patents... I downloaded VLC, but I'm still on entirely up to date with the non-free codecs lol
[03:21] <Daskreech> dogatemycomputer: his account needs that :)
[03:21] <Daskreech> not all accounts
[03:21] <dogatemycomputer> hahahahaha
[03:21] <kane> i find it unfortunate VI was the app chose to edit the sudors program.
[03:21] <fildo> any here got a pcmcia pixelview tvtuner card working on kubuntu ?
[03:21] <Daskreech> dangerous dog :)
[03:21] <dogatemycomputer> hahahahah.. dangerous huh? ..
[03:21] <trojjer> fuck the patents, if I can't watch a video otherwise, or a LEGALLY PURCHASED DVD, I'll download them thanks
[03:21] <cntb> ok Daskreech easyBCD will be my solution but first I implanted an kubuntu on sda7 and need to do another grub install and an ubuntu.bin file , at least that is what I did in edgy and dapper what liveCD will let me do it supergrub fails edgy livecd fails dvd7.04 liveDVD has no rescue option and I need to chroot
[03:21] <Daskreech> kane: it's not nano is
[03:22] <dogatemycomputer> you know.. I had to learn the hard way too..
[03:22] <trojjer> just me
[03:22] <trojjer> trojjer
[03:22] <Daskreech> trojjer: just warned you about that
[03:22] <trojjer> lol
[03:22] <trojjer> ahhh
[03:22] <trojjer> sounds good
[03:22] <kane> huh, it sure is...
[03:23] <kane> must have been another distro that rocked vi.
[03:23] <dogatemycomputer> trojjer: if you add that to the last line, logout, then log back in.. you *shouldn't* see the prompt anymore.  If you screw up the file then it will alert you before you save and exit.  Pay attention to any warnings you receive because once you screw up the file then alot of stuff stops working.
[03:23] <Daskreech> and i hope you have a live cd
[03:24] <kane> i actually normally set up the root account to have a password for just that sort of occassion.
[03:24] <Daskreech> trojjer: that's not what that line does
[03:24] <dogatemycomputer> trojjer: honestly though.. why would you ever want to use Windows?  LInux is harder to setup but once you understand how it works..  there is NOTHING you can't do in linux that you can't do better in Windows.  (with the exception of some video games)..
[03:24] <kane> or, atleast a password that i know.
[03:24] <chip273> Can anyone help e with this sound problem ?
[03:24] <fxch> ?
[03:24] <kane> dogatemycomputer: there are a couple apps on windows that ties people to it.
[03:24] <dogatemycomputer> kane: such as?
[03:25] <kane> photoshop
[03:25] <dogatemycomputer> kane: gimp
[03:25] <trojjer> realises*
[03:25] <Daskreech> I guess crimsun stepped out?
[03:25] <trojjer> lol pah sick of Photoshop
[03:25] <trojjer> I was okay with PSP
[03:25] <chip273> seems so .
[03:25] <soulrider> trojjer: linux is awesome
[03:25] <Daskreech> fxch: Yes?
[03:25] <trojjer> for whatever I wanted to do
[03:25] <kane> doesnt have proper cmyk support,
[03:25] <trojjer> GIMP seems good but I need to learn the menus
[03:25] <chip273> I still have choppy sound .
[03:25] <soulrider> trojjer: i agree witht he philosophy behind open source, but mostly, i want a fast stable system that just works!
[03:25] <dogatemycomputer> trojjer: plus.. would you meet such interesting and safety-concious people in a Windows forum? ;)  hahahahaha..
[03:26] <Daskreech> soulrider: mac :)
[03:26] <fxch> Can I talk anything about Edubuntu?
[03:26] <Daskreech> or amiga
[03:26] <trojjer> lol
[03:26] <soulrider> Daskreech: linux does the job for me
[03:26] <Daskreech> fxch: I would suspect so
[03:26] <soulrider> free, fast and stable
[03:26] <dogatemycomputer> trojjer: be patient..  as I said.. I was frustrated at first too but now I avoid windows like the plauge.  I like the feverish pace at which linux improves too.
[03:26] <soulrider> and the philosophy behinf open source is wonderful
[03:26] <kane> ive only had linux for a good few yers.
[03:26] <chip273> well IMHO linux is not stable .
[03:26] <soulrider> really?
[03:27] <kane> chip273: define "stable"
[03:27] <dogatemycomputer> chip273: define stable
[03:27] <dogatemycomputer> hahahhaa
[03:27] <chip273> nothing works .
[03:27] <kane> heh.
[03:27] <kane> thats not stable chip.
[03:27] <soulrider> my computer has been on for over 12 days now.. and its still working like charm
[03:27] <trojjer> I hate iPods, but MacOSX looks okay... too much eye candy I think though... I like the approach that GoboLinux has took, which uses symlinks to do something like an OSX dir-tree
[03:27] <chip273> ok then ist incompatible as ...
[03:27] <Daskreech> chip273: :-)
[03:27] <trojjer> lol
[03:27] <soulrider> trojjer: at first linux can be a bit different and at times frustrating, but youll start to love it in no time
[03:27] <kane> chip273: its a mixed bag, just like everyt thing else.
[03:28] <cntb> I get segmentation fault while trying to chroot
[03:28] <chip273> I'm on it for a week now and I can't get anything to work..
[03:28] <Daskreech> chip273: can You join #alsa ?
[03:28] <cntb> is my kubuntu gost image faulty ?
[03:28] <cntb> is my kubuntu ghost image faulty ?
[03:28] <trojjer> I'm trying to learn to love "GLinux", lol
[03:28] <kane> chip273: we are happy to help if you have any specific issue.
[03:28] <cntb> I get segmentation fault while trying to chroot
[03:28] <soulrider> trojjer: ive been using linux for a year, befire that i used DOS and windows for around 13 years
[03:28] <Daskreech> cntb: where are you chrooting to?
[03:28] <soulrider> i cant believe i didnt switch before
[03:29] <chip273> kane sound , network, wlan, ....
[03:29] <trojjer> 'k
[03:29] <trojjer> it's been crashing a bit oddly though
[03:29] <trojjer> and the general GNOME/KDE is quite sluggish at times
[03:29] <soulrider> trojjer: really? is it the kernel crashing or X ?
[03:29] <trojjer> sick of it killing Firefox without a warning too, damn RAM hog
[03:29] <trojjer> no panics AFAIK
[03:30] <trojjer> however, I get the odd random hang
[03:30] <trojjer> cursor not movign
[03:30] <trojjer> moving*
[03:30] <soulrider> trojjer: in a year of linux, i never got a kernel panic
[03:30] <soulrider> trojjer: tried ctrl alt backspace ?
[03:30] <trojjer> I think I can bring up a console with Alt+F1 but I'm not sure
[03:30] <Daskreech> chip273: well network seems to work you are talking to us :)
[03:30] <Daskreech> chip273: oh wait. .. different machine huh?
[03:30] <soulrider> ctrl alt f1
[03:30] <chip273> yep .
[03:30] <soulrider> Daskreech: LOL
[03:30] <pawitp> make sure you know ctrl alt f7
[03:31] <chip273> well network works if I do not puch the notebook around. at home it is fine . ..
[03:31] <Daskreech> you have a DHCP at home?
[03:31] <chip273> yes I do .
[03:32] <Daskreech> and DHCP elsewhere doesn't work?
[03:32] <kane> i'm sure he is talking about wireless.
[03:32] <Daskreech> ah
[03:32] <chip273> Wlan always hangs on 28 % and does not continue to connect.
[03:32] <kane> well wireless sucks.
[03:32] <Daskreech> Probably needs a key
[03:33] <Daskreech> I've almost never gotten it not to work
[03:33] <kane> or its  MAC filtered
[03:33] <Daskreech> But then I've only tried three times :(
[03:33] <chip273> as it is my network I think that I have the right key for WEP TKIP
[03:33] <kane> did it ever prompt for it?
[03:33] <Daskreech> are you using a passphrase or a key?
[03:34] <chip273> as for wired network I have DHCP at home but VPN anywhere else .
[03:34] <chip273> Is there a difference in WPAyou are talking about WEP .
[03:34] <Daskreech> WEP sorry
[03:34] <trojjer> hello again
[03:34] <chip273> well that are less problematic problems I first want my sound to work .
[03:35] <Daskreech> trojjer: it's alt+Ctrl+F1 and alt+Ctrl+F7 to get back GUI
[03:35] <Daskreech> trojjer: are you in Gnome?
[03:35] <trojjer> yes
[03:35] <Kewlie> Hello
[03:36] <trojjer> got KDE, trying to pick one lol
[03:36] <Daskreech> KDE!!! :)
[03:36] <kane> well my sound has always "just worked" and thats pretty normal, are you sure its not muted?
[03:37] <Kewlie> This maybe a very old question but I am still new to Linux in general, does the init 3 (shutdown xserver) command even work in Kubuntu? or am I doing something wrong?
[03:38] <Daskreech> kane: his sound works just gets choppy
[03:38] <kane> aaahhh
[03:38] <Daskreech> Kewlie: that's a RedHat thing
[03:38] <Daskreech> Kewlie: X is only shut down for init 1 in Debian
[03:38] <Daskreech> Kewlie: Why do you want X done?
[03:38] <Daskreech> Down?
[03:39] <Daskreech> !nvidia | trojjer
[03:39] <ubotu> trojjer: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:39] <Kewlie> to install nvidia drivers
[03:39] <trojjer> thanks for the tip about CTRL+ALT+F1-7, Dask, but I knew that already and C+A+Bk made the Panel exit
[03:39] <kane> chip273: open the control panel, go to the sound options and make sure that the checkbox to run with real time prority is selected
[03:39] <Kewlie> I cant find a documented alternative way
[03:39] <trojjer> so I have to do it myself? Thought so, as it's binary
[03:39] <trojjer> damnit they should hurry up and open source
[03:40] <trojjer> Java's done it ffs, now we're counting on Flash
[03:40] <trojjer> doubtful though
[03:40] <kane> Kewlie: if you can you should stick to the drivers that apt-get can install for you.
[03:40] <Daskreech> trojjer: try Alt+Ctrl+Esc :-)
[03:40] <trojjer> and C+A+Esc does?
[03:40] <Kewlie> I am just upset I paid 400+ dollars on Vista when this OS is better >_<
[03:40] <chip273> @kane : that did not help, as well as maxing out the buffers or min it out did not help.
[03:40] <Daskreech> Kewlie: What are you trying to do?
[03:40] <Kewlie> apt get? I'll look into that thx
[03:40] <knapp> I am trying to connect from one Kubuntu machine to another. I go to access the other and it asks for a user/pass. I have tried every combination I can think of. Where do I find this login info?
[03:41] <Kewlie> just install my video card
[03:41] <Daskreech> trojjer: open xkill :)
[03:41] <kane> chip273: try disabling the sound server all together.
[03:41] <knapp> I'm using samba
[03:41] <Daskreech> knapp: aaaahhhh
[03:41] <kane> sound should still works, prolly just one app at a time.
[03:41] <Daskreech> knapp: use sshd
[03:41] <kane> Kewlie: are you using nvidia?
[03:41] <Kewlie> I would like to use Beryl if my card would support it
[03:41] <Kewlie> yes
[03:41] <chip273> kane: still choppy tried that already.
[03:41] <Daskreech> Kewlie: What video card is it?
[03:41] <Daskreech> !nvidia | Kewlie
[03:41] <ubotu> Kewlie: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:41] <trojjer> ah yes, the pirate thing
[03:41] <kane> its just apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:41] <trojjer> Arrrrr
[03:42] <Kewlie> pcix geforce 7300 gt
[03:42] <Daskreech> !ssh
[03:42] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[03:42] <trojjer> hah it won't work in GNOME
[03:42] <Kewlie> thats it?
[03:42] <trojjer> remember using it in KDE
[03:42] <Daskreech> Kewlie: and you can ask for beryl help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:42] <Kewlie> thx
[03:42] <kane> chip273: intresting, does it do it in all apps?
[03:42] <Kewlie> apt-get install nvidia-glx, lol that's it?
[03:42] <Kewlie> doh
[03:42] <Daskreech> Kewlie: and if you are in KDE get ready for kwin in KDE4
[03:42] <Daskreech> It's going to be sweet
[03:43] <kane> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:43] <kane> should do it.
[03:43] <Kewlie> gotcha
[03:43] <Daskreech> knapp: install ssh
[03:43] <kane> downloads it and installs it.
[03:43] <kane> dont even have to reboot, just logout and back in.
[03:43] <trojjer> hah, Konq's my default browser in GNOME even... I was using Firefox before
[03:43] <Kewlie> alt/ctrl backspace?
[03:43] <chip273> kane: trying aplay from the console mainly, with different sound files .
[03:43] <kane> uhg, i hate konqi as a browser
[03:44] <trojjer> (is Firefox 2 "supported" yet?)
[03:44] <trojjer> (sick of 1.5)
[03:44] <dogatemycomputer> sudo apt-get install firefox :)
[03:44] <Daskreech> trojjer: yes just not in LTS
[03:44] <Kewlie> brb I am going to install this bad boy
[03:44] <Daskreech> trojjer:  and it eats more memory
[03:44] <kane> chip273: try using something like amarok.
[03:44] <Daskreech> dogatemycomputer: he's in LTS
[03:45] <Daskreech> !opera
[03:45] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[03:45] <kane> i thought firefox2 was supposed to use less.
[03:45] <trojjer> lol
[03:46] <trojjer> it seems to use more, but it lets you reload the tabs if it crashes ;)
[03:46] <trojjer> which is hell if you had 200+ tabs open
[03:46] <chip273> kane: amarok just did crash
[03:46] <FireHazard17> you kidding me the most i have ever had is 35
[03:46] <kane> sounds like you are having some intresting issues with your soundcard drivers.  Which is unfortunate.
[03:47] <Kewlie> what would this error mean? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:47] <Daskreech> chip273: are you still getting help in #alsa ?
[03:47] <FireHazard17> and that was once mostly its about 5 tabs open a once
[03:47] <chip273> trying to .
[03:47] <kane> chip273: yes that might be the best place, sorry buddy.
[03:47] <Daskreech> kane: you may want to concentrate on getting his networking up :)
[03:47] <trojjer> that's the trouble with certain open source progs... at least it's usually only the userspace stuff that crashes eh? And only if it's a daily build or something... it seems
[03:47] <trojjer> then again I'm on LTS and I get annoyed when things just hang
[03:47] <trojjer> lol
[03:48] <kane> Daskreech: said he didnt care about that : )
[03:48] <trojjer> seriously, I start middle clicking links and it rises to over 100 easily
[03:48] <Daskreech> ha
[03:48] <trojjer> I never get to read them all
[03:48] <trojjer> a fresh start is nice sometimes
[03:48] <Daskreech> well he said nothing worked I'm guessing there must be something else we can help with
[03:48] <kane> i never get that many, but a i get a good bit.
[03:49] <kane> i presume, i just hate to see people run back to windows and say "linux sucks" when its really a hardware issue.
[03:49] <trojjer> yeah
[03:49] <trojjer> bet you do
[03:49] <kane> i mean it is a linux issue as well.
[03:49] <trojjer> I'm trying to keep an open mind
[03:49] <kane> sound and networking normally "just work"
[03:50] <Daskreech> yeah having some driver help would be nice
[03:50] <Daskreech> Course Linux does work on most hardware which is more than I can say about Vista
[03:50] <kane> well its just that all those drivers pretty much come built into the kernal.
[03:50] <trojjer> I hope it's gonna be simple to actually start using my separate /home partition, btw... I only set aside 5GB for /root and it's filling up with all the packages etc by default... nothing in /home damnit, which is 10GB
[03:50] <kane> so if you want to install newer ones, its often a "build a kernel module" deal.
[03:51] <kane> trojjer: it should be very simple.
[03:51] <kane> trojjer: just save all your movies/music/whatever on /home.
[03:51] <knapp> daskreech can you give me an example of how to use ssh to connect to a lan computer?
[03:51] <FireHazard17> trojjer: get a newer computer!
[03:52] <kane> trojjer: just dont turn it off.
[03:52] <Daskreech> knapp: want a purty GUI way or the nice fast CLI way? :)
[03:52] <trojjer> lol
[03:52] <kane> he wants the CLI way, you gotta deal with the command line anyway if you are sshing into something.
[03:52] <trojjer> first off
[03:52] <knapp> cli plz
[03:52] <Daskreech> CLI way is ssh user@computerorip
[03:52] <FireHazard17> yet your on irc
[03:53] <Daskreech> trojjer:  you can tweak that sucker out :0
[03:53] <Daskreech> kane: no you don't
[03:53] <Daskreech> knapp: the user is on the remote computer
[03:53] <FireHazard17> trojjer: not bad i dont see why its so slow
[03:54] <knapp> name or service not known
[03:54] <kane> Daskreech: pretty much you do.  Unless you like X-foward or something but really.
[03:54] <kane> ssh is designed to be on the CLI
[03:54] <dwbell> trojjer: if you have intigrated graphics that might be a little low on the ram.
[03:54] <knapp> nevermind
[03:54] <Daskreech> knapp: which computer did you install ssh on?
[03:54] <knapp> I got it
[03:54] <kane> secure SHELL
[03:54] <Daskreech> kane: learn about fish
[03:54] <knapp> daskreech can I transfer files using this?
[03:55] <trojjer> nope, Geforce 4 MX440l, 64MB VRAM
[03:55] <Daskreech> knapp: sure
[03:55] <kane> fish is more like SFTP than ssh really
[03:55] <Daskreech> if you press ctrl-d to logout
[03:55] <dwbell> trojjer: I have a 1.83 Ghz athlon with 1 gb of ram and It's under 40 sec to login screen.
[03:55] <trojjer> need binary drivers
[03:55] <Daskreech> you can scp a file or sftp one
[03:55] <Daskreech> sftp works just like ftp
[03:55] <fisk0> is there any way to disable those giant tooltips which you get when hovering over icons on the main panel? I've tried disabling tooltips, but that didn't do anything
[03:55] <knapp> how do I do that?
[03:55] <Daskreech> shouldn't be hard to figure out
[03:55] <knapp> hrm
[03:55] <Daskreech> scp works like this
[03:55] <trojjer> lol maybe mine is "under 40s" too, I'm just forgetting what this old beast is like compared to my P4 3.06GHz laptop w/1GB
[03:56] <Daskreech> scp sourcefile targettocopyto
[03:56] <Daskreech> knapp: one of those is remote
[03:56] <Daskreech> knapp: does that make sense?
[03:56] <kane> fisk0: you right click on the taskbar configure taskbar...
[03:56] <FireHazard17> i have a 2.6 with a gig of ram and a nvidia geforce 7600 GS OC with 512 Mb of vram
[03:56] <kane> configure panel i mean
[03:56] <Daskreech> fisk0: Yeah I forget how:( it's in the panel config
[03:56] <trojjer> wow lol
[03:56] <kane> its under apperence.
[03:57] <FireHazard17> wow lol what?
[03:57] <Daskreech> knapp: does what I just said make sense ?
[03:57] <trojjer> Fire: you one of those users with the HUUUUGE resolution screenshots? Damn
[03:57] <FireHazard17> nope 1024x768
[03:57] <trojjer> lol
[03:57] <knapp> daskreech so its user@host/directory/to/file... ?
[03:57] <trojjer> I'm on 1280 because Ubuntu set it as default
[03:57] <FireHazard17> its all my cheap lcd supports
[03:57] <FireHazard17> couldnt go higher if i tried
[03:57] <trojjer> I've only briefly used 1280 with Windows on this desktop
[03:57] <Daskreech> knapp: ok the remote server is user@host:path/to/file
[03:58] <trojjer> all the fonts are tiny now though by default grrr
[03:58] <Daskreech> knapp: notice the colon that's important
[03:58] <fisk0> kane: I've been through the whole "Configure panel" window, can't find it anywhere
[03:58] <Daskreech> knapp: if you put nothing after the colon it means ~
[03:58] <premier_> hello, this is a beryl problem but the beryl guys couldn't fix it... basically, beryl won't start unless I kill kdesktop... It keeps complaining about a window manager already running on my screen
[03:58] <Daskreech> hi premier_
[03:58] <premier_> Daskreech: that was fast
[03:58] <kane> fisk0: its the "enable mouse over effects"
[03:58] <Daskreech> premier_: beryl --replace
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> WOO!
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> i mean
[03:58] <premier_> do you have a macro or something
[03:58] <fisk0> ahh
[03:58] <premier_> Daskreech: that didn't work
[03:58] <Daisuke_Ido> *ahem* this is quite lovely
[03:59] <knapp> daskreech ok I think I can handle it from here, thanks dood
[03:59] <fisk0> kane: thank you, I thought that was the icon highlight thing
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> finally, amarok has mtp support
[03:59] <kane> fisk0: yeah its a dumb name
[03:59] <premier_> trojjer: a 17" laptop with less that 1280x1024?  thats painful
[03:59] <Daskreech> knapp: so scp MyResume boss@coolcompanyihacked.com: would put it on a useful person's home folder
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i suppose it's had it for a while, but the default that ships with kubuntu has it now
[03:59] <kane> premier_:
[03:59] <kane> er
[03:59] <kane> premier_: you want the berly --replace
[03:59] <kane> that should do it.
[03:59] <trojjer> yeah
[03:59] <fisk0> great, no more urge to commit suicide when I have to do anything in the KDE menu :)
[04:00] <Daskreech> knapp: for future you can type fish://user@host in konqui's bar to do it as a GUI
[04:00] <FireHazard17> i want to get a geforce 8800 ultra OC
[04:00] <trojjer> stupid Toshiba Satellite A60 from 2004
[04:00] <knapp> fish?
[04:00] <FireHazard17> OC means overclocked
[04:00] <Daskreech> knapp: yeah. Try it once for giggle
[04:00] <trojjer> wish my dad had spent 1000 on a desktop, maybe, or another laptop
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> FireHazard17: and what's the purpose of that in a linux system?
[04:00] <FireHazard17> but they are aboot 995 usd
[04:00] <FireHazard17> i dual boot
[04:00] <Daisuke_Ido> ah
[04:00] <kane> Daisuke_Ido: linux users play games.
[04:00] <kane> under linux even.
[04:01] <trojjer> lol
[04:01] <Daskreech> !gmaes
[04:01] <trojjer> indeed
[04:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gmaes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:01] <Daskreech> !Wow
[04:01] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[04:01] <trojjer> a few
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> kane: show me one game under linux that requires that much power.
[04:01] <Daskreech> trojjer: Loads
[04:01] <trojjer> lol loads of free ones
[04:01] <FireHazard17> loads
[04:01] <fisk0> I just got a strange bug, when I enable "menu shadows" there are double shadows, when I disable it there is still one shadow (as I would expect from "enable menu shadows")
[04:01] <FireHazard17> indeed
[04:01] <trojjer> a few commercial ones :)
[04:01] <premier_> kane: I already said, beryl --replace didn't work... it still complained about "another window manager"
[04:01] <Daskreech> Daisuke_Ido: UT2007
[04:01] <FireHazard17> and you can use wine
[04:01] <Daisuke_Ido> that requires an 8800 OC?
[04:01] <kane> Daisuke_Ido: not fair, there are none on windows that requires that much power
[04:01] <FireHazard17> 8800 ultra
[04:02] <kane> ut2007 doesnt exsist yet.
[04:02] <Daskreech> Daisuke_Ido: No game requires that
[04:02] <knapp> daskreech No hostname specified.
[04:02] <trojjer> doesn't Wine still involve a performance hit for games?
[04:02] <FireHazard17> thats why you need the card
[04:02] <Daskreech> Daisuke_Ido: they wouldn't sell a copy
[04:02] <trojjer> I doubt my 512MB RAM would suffice these days
[04:02] <kane> trojjer: some, its getting better.
[04:02] <FireHazard17> :0
[04:02] <Daskreech> kane: :-p
[04:02] <trojjer> yeah
[04:02] <trojjer> a bit
[04:02] <Daskreech> kane: it will work on Linux on day one though
[04:02] <Daisuke_Ido> trojjer: actually in some cases games will perform better under wine than under real windows
[04:02] <Daskreech> native even
[04:02] <Daskreech>  /me runs UT2004
[04:02] <kane> me toooo
[04:02] <trojjer> wtf, really?
[04:02] <trojjer> Wine  "better"?
[04:02] <trojjer> lol
[04:03] <Daskreech> knapp: where is that?
[04:03] <Daisuke_Ido> kind of scary, eh?
[04:03] <kane> trojjer: its true.
[04:03] <FireHazard17> yeah some
[04:03] <FireHazard17> windows is that flawed
[04:03] <Kewlie> heh
[04:03] <trojjer> maybe it's a similar, but different, thing to XP being better on new Macs under BootCamp lol
[04:03] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm still happy with my 7600 :D
[04:03] <Daskreech> Daisuke_Ido: better some games won't work under Windows but they do under Wine :)
[04:03] <FireHazard17> most all is better than vista
[04:03] <kane> trojjer: check the benchmarks, wine performs certian opertations faster than windows does.
[04:03] <FireHazard17> vista is horrible for gaming
[04:03] <trojjer> any ops from the top of your head?
[04:03] <Daisuke_Ido> FireHazard17: OS/2 is better than vista :D
[04:04] <Daskreech> FireHazard17: it's horrible for anything but it's going to get better
[04:04] <trojjer> yeah I know, it must suck with all the DRM stuff
[04:04] <trojjer> does it really check every 30 frames or something?
[04:04] <premier_> trojjer: if you want to play a game, just try it and see... or go to the wine APP DB
[04:04] <Daskreech> trojjer: Not really DRm just security so far
[04:04] <Daskreech> it's annoying
[04:04] <FireHazard17> havent used vista yet
[04:04] <Daisuke_Ido> you are trying to rocketjump.  Cancel or Allow?
[04:04] <kane> when i played WoW it performed better under cedega than windows
[04:04] <Daskreech> Daisuke_Ido: ha ha :)
[04:04] <trojjer> me neither really, sick of the "WOW" hype
[04:04] <knapp> daskreech An error occurred while loading fish:\\192.168.1.102: No hostname specified.
[04:04] <knapp> daskreech that's all I see
[04:05] <Daskreech> knapp: give it a username@192.168.1.102
[04:05] <knapp> I did
[04:05] <knapp> same
[04:05] <Daskreech> really?
[04:05] <Daskreech> hmm
[04:05] <trojjer> lol I wouldn't pay for Cedega... I didn't even pay for my XP Pro disc... ;) Regretted wiping the OEM installation of Home on the laptop though, now I'm in Windows Genuine Annoyance hell
[04:05] <Daskreech> knapp: Duh!
[04:05] <Daskreech> knapp: wrong slashes
[04:05] <trojjer> can't install the new MSI so I can install things such as the new Opera
[04:06] <trojjer> damn SM
[04:06] <trojjer> MS*
[04:06] <kane> trojjer: i dont mind helping out "Free" software when i can.
[04:06] <Daisuke_Ido> just installed the latest opera available today
[04:06] <trojjer> at least I have a legit CD should I want to use it
[04:06] <trojjer> well, recovery DVD
[04:06] <Daisuke_Ido> linux = love
[04:06] <Kansi> hey... I can't get the mode "superuser" when I wanna change theme in the KDM Theme Manager ?
[04:06] <Kansi> how can I be "superuser"
[04:06] <trojjer> (I mean the stupid "WOW Starts Now" crap, now WoW... although I don't like World of Warcraft that much lol)
[04:07] <FireHazard17> ask your admin
[04:07] <FireHazard17> :P
[04:07] <Daisuke_Ido> i have two legit copies of XP, one 32 and one 64.  i haven't used them in several months :D
[04:07] <Daskreech> Kansi: You clicked the Adminstrator mode utton in the bottom right corner ?
[04:07] <trojjer> help out WINE by donating directly to them, maybe? :P
[04:07] <knapp> daskreech you mean \\ instead of //?
[04:07] <Kansi> Daskreech:  there is noo Administrator mode
[04:07] <Daskreech> knapp: yeah
[04:07] <FireHazard17> i hate when it tells you to ask your admin im my fuckin admin
[04:07] <knapp> same error :(
[04:07] <Daskreech> !language | FireHazard17
[04:07] <ubotu> FireHazard17: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:07] <FireHazard17> stop telling my to ask myself
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> no, in system settings there is no administrator mode
[04:08] <Daskreech> knapp: ???
[04:08] <FireHazard17> sorry
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> this is a known bug
[04:08] <Daisuke_Ido> access it through kcontrol instead
[04:08] <Daskreech> knapp: let me see the address you are putting in
[04:08] <knapp> An error occurred while loading fish:\\todd%40192.168.1.102:
[04:08] <Kansi> Daisuke_Ido: thanks
[04:08] <trojjer> the whole separation of user privileges seems like a good idea, but as I said, the nags get tiresome...
[04:08] <FireHazard17> also the doesnt start now it started a year or two ago when beryl came out
[04:09] <Daskreech> knapp: fish://todd@192.168.1.102
[04:09] <Daskreech> knapp: click that
[04:09] <trojjer> does Visudo bypass the nags without "opening backdoors"?
[04:09] <knapp> wtf, thats exactly how I was typing it the first time
[04:09] <knapp> lol
[04:09] <Daskreech> trojjer: it stops nags but if someone walks up to your machine they can do what ever they like
[04:09] <cntb> \o guys
[04:09] <trojjer> or does it make the PC a bit more vulnerable somehow? Progs have their own runlevels?
[04:10] <Daskreech> knapp: obviously it wasn't :)
[04:10] <trojjer> lol it's in my bedroom
[04:10] <trojjer> I don't care
[04:10] <trojjer> more worried about remote attacks... well, not really
[04:10] <knapp> :O
[04:10] <Daskreech> trojjer: fine add in the line kane gave you
[04:10] <knapp> thanks man
[04:10] <cntb> guys how can I use dvdkubuntu as a source for apt-get?
[04:10] <Daskreech> knapp: yeah Enjoy
[04:10] <kane> i didnt give anyone anylines.
[04:10] <Daskreech> cntb: live?
[04:10] <kane> i said it make a better password : )
[04:10] <trojjer> I have a Linux PC now, and a Linksys WRT54G router with OpenWRT firmware... so double Linux firmware seal
[04:10] <Daisuke_Ido> rockbox is still not ready for primetime (on the sansa e200 line)
[04:10] <trojjer> I mean Linux firewall*
[04:11] <Daskreech> !commercial
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about commercial - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <trojjer> oh btw, about firewalls
[04:11] <FireHazard17> !opensource
[04:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about opensource - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:11] <kane> trojjer: really though if you have a bad password atleast make sure you dont have an SSH server running.
[04:12] <trojjer> I tried forwarding the listening port on BitComet under Windows
[04:12] <FireHazard17> im a chef and i use opensauce
[04:12] <FireHazard17> its free
[04:12] <trojjer> so that I could download faster
[04:12] <FireHazard17> it comes out the trash
[04:12] <trojjer> do I need to keep using the webadmin page to enable/disable the listening rule?
[04:12] <trojjer> my pwd's okay
[04:12] <trojjer> about medium
[04:13] <trojjer> not dictionary, two numbers
[04:13] <Daskreech> !info opensauce
[04:13] <ubotu> Package opensauce does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:13] <Daskreech> trojjer: so about 10 minutes to get cracked then? :-)
[04:13] <kane> should be cool then. prolly dont have an ssh server running anyways.  i know mine gets slammed everyday
[04:13] <trojjer> lol
[04:13] <trojjer> ffs
[04:14] <trojjer> I did make a "strong" one according to KDE
[04:14] <trojjer> but it seemed like overkill
[04:14] <FireHazard17> like ab125DCAasd234
[04:14] <Daskreech> trojjer: yeah it always does till after you get hacked :)
[04:14] <Daskreech> like A1b2c3
[04:14] <Daskreech> Go spaceballs!
[04:14] <trojjer> then again, I made sure to use special chars etc in my ebanking pwd
[04:15] <kane> as long as you are not running in a networked envrionment, and you dont have a way to log on to your computer remotly then it doesnt make a whole lot of difference.
[04:15] <Daskreech> trojjer: ha ha :)
[04:15] <Daskreech> ask Visa :)
[04:15] <Kansi> Daisuke_Ido: I can't find Kcontrol !!!
[04:15] <Daskreech> Kansi: press Alt+F2
[04:15] <kane> trojjer: i could show you my auth log and you can see people trying to brute force it.
[04:15] <Daskreech> Kansi: type kcontrol
[04:15] <Daskreech> You should be ok
[04:15] <trojjer> lol
[04:15] <trojjer> do you see the actual password attempts?
[04:15] <carutsu> have anyone had speed problems for the downloads/uploads? should i forward any ports? if so, wich ones?
[04:16] <Daskreech> trojjer: about 500 a hour
[04:16] <Kansi> ok !!
[04:16] <Kansi> thanks
[04:16] <trojjer> yikes
[04:16] <trojjer> five hundred???
[04:16] <Daskreech> Kansi: Welcome!
[04:16] <kane> no, you can enable it somehow, im not sure how though.
[04:16] <trojjer> the Internet's mad
[04:16] <trojjer> I remember reading about a honeytrap Windows box
[04:16] <kane> i installled an application to add an ip to deny.hosts after a few attempts
[04:16] <kane> so that helps
[04:16] <trojjer> on the BBC website
[04:16] <FireHazard17> i have run windows unprotect with out a router or fire wall et had nothing happen
[04:17] <trojjer> me too actually
[04:17] <trojjer> nothing seemed to happen anyway lol
[04:17] <trojjer> I was a bit scared
[04:17] <kane> FireHazard17: i ran a windows laptop and it was trashed after about an hour.
[04:17] <trojjer> but I was mostly patched up
[04:17] <FireHazard17> lol
[04:17] <kane> without a firewall or anthing.
[04:17] <trojjer> weird
[04:17] <kane> just a default install.
[04:17] <Daskreech> trojjer: yeah patches help a lot :)
[04:17] <FireHazard17> yeah mine was patched too
[04:17] <trojjer> never happened to me, no spyware really since I started using Firefox and Spybot etc
[04:18] <FireHazard17> i use fedora core
[04:18] <trojjer> lol with the stupid pirated SP2 CD that I used, because I thought "pro" was better
[04:18] <trojjer> I got the Blaster worm
[04:18] <trojjer> every install
[04:18] <FireHazard17> no no i dont
[04:18] <trojjer> so I had to keep the firewall up, download the hotfix etfc
[04:18] <trojjer> etc*
[04:18] <trojjer> shut WinMessenger the hell down!
[04:19] <trojjer> okay
[04:19] <Daskreech> well in anycase I'm kicking you all to OT
[04:19] <Daskreech> !OT
[04:19] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:19] <trojjer> how do I get the bloody Panel up?
[04:19] <trojjer> all I've got now is the plain desktop
[04:19] <trojjer> nothing
[04:19] <Daskreech> thanks for playing :-) Good night
[04:19] <trojjer> no run dialogue or anything
[04:19] <trojjer> night Dask
[04:19] <Daskreech> trojjer: can you alt+F2 ?
[04:19] <trojjer> yes I get terminals
[04:19] <trojjer> or consoles
[04:19] <Daskreech> trojjer: kiccker
[04:19] <trojjer> but no Alt+F2
[04:19] <Daskreech> trojjer: kicker
[04:19] <trojjer> is what I mean
[04:19] <trojjer> no Kicker, and I'm in GNOME lol
[04:20] <trojjer> is there an equiv?
[04:20] <Daskreech> Right >_<
[04:20] <Daskreech> natilus I think
[04:20] <trojjer> I might as well just go the hell back to KDE
[04:20] <trojjer> and see how long it lasts this time
[04:20] <trojjer> there must be something causing the general GUI sluggishness
[04:20] <trojjer> as I said, effects off
[04:21] <Daskreech> hi nikkiana
[04:21] <trojjer> (is there an easy way to send a running prog from GNOME to KDE? I'm running Konversation, so it might work right? KDE app)
[04:21] <Jack3> is there an ubuntnu espanol channel
[04:22] <trojjer> (lol if only you could toggle environments like workstations)
[04:22] <Nuked> what plugin do I have to install to get amarok to play mp3 streams
[04:22] <Nuked> ?
[04:22] <Daskreech> trojjer: eh?
[04:22] <Daskreech> !es | Jack3
[04:22] <ubotu> Jack3: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:22] <trojjer> Amarok should ask you if you want them?
[04:22] <otaku-san> hey all...ok I know how I can put Firefox in root..and have it update..but will it stay there?  So it will automatically update without me?
[04:23] <Daskreech> trojjer: and you can
[04:23] <Daskreech> !mp3 | Nuked
[04:23] <ubotu> Nuked: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:23] <trojjer> it prompted me with the option to get restricted codecs, but because of the Adept/Synaptic crashing I couldn't download packages
[04:23] <Daskreech> otaku-san: you will get frefox updates the same way you get all other updates so yes it will be automatic
[04:24] <trojjer> otaku, don't run a browser in root
[04:24] <trojjer> right? ;)
[04:24] <trojjer> lol
[04:24] <Daskreech> that too
[04:24] <trojjer> I'm tempted to just login in root... well, I would be, if Ubuntu let me do that lol
[04:24] <Daskreech> !root
[04:24] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:24] <trojjer> you can use the Launcher
[04:25] <otaku-san> Daskreech, trojjer: ok...thanks guys
[04:25] <trojjer> but best not to with a browser?
[04:25] <otaku-san> the Launcher?
[04:25] <Nuked> Daskreech, I have all of that installed but amarok seems to be using the xine backend... is this perhaps the problem?
[04:25] <otaku-san> ....hey anyone with the latest build of Kubuntu?
[04:25] <trojjer> !Launcher
[04:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about launcher - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:25] <Daskreech> Nuked: ha ha did you read the page?
[04:25] <Daskreech> Nuked: in short install libxine-extracodecs
[04:26] <Nuked> daskreech I installed that
[04:26] <Daskreech> Nuked: and closed adept and reopened it ?
[04:26] <Nuked> yes
[04:26] <Daskreech> Nuked: what is it doing ?
[04:26] <Nuked> and I dont use adept
[04:26] <Daskreech> What did you use ?
[04:26] <Nuked> it just claims it cannot decode the stream
[04:26] <Nuked> apt-get
[04:26] <Daskreech> Nuked: ah that
[04:26] <Daskreech> Nuked: just double click it again
[04:27] <Daskreech> it's moody today
[04:27] <Daskreech> Hobbsee!!
[04:27] <trojjer> (so how do I send Konv over to KDE so I can logout of my GNOME session?)
[04:28] <Daskreech> trojjer: Oh I don't know about sending them over but you can run both DE's at the same time
[04:28] <otaku-san> just checking...because..Fedora 7 just came out..and they have this sweet boot screen...I mean..it's hot looking (in my opinion..it's simple..but cool) and we still have the black screen of olden days (no bashing ya'll who like it that way) I just like it crisp and all
[04:28] <Daskreech> if you just close Konv and open it back your history will be there
[04:28] <Daskreech> in the KDE session
[04:28] <Nuked> Daskreech, thats extremely weird
[04:28] <FireHazard17> Daskreech: how can yo run two wm at once?
[04:28] <Hobbsee> hi Daskreech!
[04:29] <Daskreech> otaku-san: you have no boot splash?
[04:29] <Daskreech> Nuked: yeah tell me about it
[04:29] <Daskreech> FireHazard17: open one up on a new terminal
[04:29] <trojjer> lol I just minimised Konversation, only to remember that the Panels have disappeared... had to relaunch it; thankfully it stayed connected even though it had no panel to go to, somehow
[04:29] <FireHazard17> oh...
[04:29] <Daskreech> we have three running on that machine <--------- over there
[04:29] <Nuked> Daskreech, it works
[04:30] <trojjer> lol
[04:30] <Daskreech> Nuked: I figured it would
[04:30] <trojjer> lot of RAM to hog though
[04:30] <trojjer> both KDE and GNOME at the same time
[04:30] <trojjer> I'm thinking of trying Xubuntu, but I don't think that my PC is *that* slow lol
[04:30] <Daskreech> trojjer: yeah we reboot that machine lots though
[04:30] <trojjer> might feel snappier though
[04:31] <trojjer> I want some eye candy, what about IceWM? Then again I want one of the two "big ones"...
[04:31] <trojjer> really
[04:31] <otaku-san> Daskreech: I don't have something that makes the booting look good..no...I have a different screen for the KDM login..and the KDE splash screen..but no boot splash
[04:31] <trojjer> most compatibility
[04:31] <Daskreech> otaku-san: well if it comforts you ... you should
[04:31] <FireHazard17> !hi
[04:31] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:32] <Daskreech> trojjer: Whats this about compatibilty ?
[04:32] <otaku-san> HAHA ya...you are right Daskreech ....comforts me?  No..just looks sleek
[04:32] <otaku-san> Daskreech: just to lazy man....and I barely have time now like I did to make my linux box as cool as I would like
[04:33] <Daskreech> trojjer: good job :)
[04:33] <FireHazard17> trojjer: at the cost of your soul?
[04:33] <trojjer> lol
[04:33] <Minataku> I use XDM
[04:33] <Daskreech> otaku-san: well then do work on it till it makes you enough money where you can take the time off to make it secsy :)
[04:33] <Minataku> Very plain, very Unix
[04:33] <Minataku> :3
[04:33] <Daskreech> trojjer: Yeah you can do that pretty easy
[04:34] <jacques> is ubuntu.org down?
[04:34] <otaku-san> Daskreech: haha there you go
[04:34] <FireHazard17> trojjer: i mean compatibility yeah...compatability...
[04:34] <FireHazard17> SOUL!!!!!
[04:34] <Daskreech> Minataku: ugly as sin and twice as functional I like it
[04:34] <FireHazard17> i mean *cough*
[04:34] <trojjer> I heard that Xubuntu isn't as "user-friendly" as K or G?
[04:34] <Daskreech> jacques: don't think so. Why?
[04:34] <Minataku> Daskreech: Ugly nothing
[04:34] <titanix88> trojjer: it is,
[04:34] <trojjer> lol I hate the early '90s look of NextSTEP
[04:35] <Daskreech> trojjer: Umm Sure . Why not? :)
[04:35] <trojjer> dunno about XDM
[04:35] <Minataku> I love the look of Motif
[04:35] <Minataku> Absolutely beautiful
[04:35] <titanix88> trojjer: not the look really, it's pretty nice to look at.
[04:35] <Daskreech> hi claydoh
[04:36] <jacques> I can not connect to it
[04:36] <Daskreech> Minataku: I should show you CDE :)
[04:36] <trojjer> maybe it's more modern now lol? The screenshots on the website made it look outdated, wonder what the themes are like
[04:36] <Daskreech> jacques: the website?
[04:36] <trojjer> the KDE/GNOME themes that resemble Motif etc are old-looking
[04:36] <Minataku> Daskreech: Use it on all my Solaris boxes
[04:36] <titanix88> trojjer: but i miss std features like right click context menu on desktop.:(
[04:36] <jacques> yes
[04:36] <claydoh> hello Daskreech
[04:36] <FireHazard17> solaris>
[04:36] <Minataku> OpenWindows sucks, GNOME _really_ sucks
[04:36] <Daskreech> Minataku: and it all comes together :)
[04:36] <FireHazard17> solaris?
[04:37] <Minataku> CDE is very nice
[04:37] <Daskreech> jacques: try http://www.ubuntu.com
[04:37] <Minataku> Behind it is MWM
[04:37] <trojjer> lol... at least KDE makes Windows converts feel "more at home", slightly
[04:37] <Minataku> Which you can get free
[04:37] <Minataku> CDE in it's entirety is commercial
[04:37] <trojjer> yeah
[04:37] <Minataku> So you can techically take any other DE like KDE and have it use MWM
[04:37] <jacques> no I want to connect to www.ubuntuguide.org
[04:38] <deadowl> alright, broadcom 4310 uart rev01 using ndiswrapper not scanning/connecting
[04:38] <deadowl> anyone have any ideas?
[04:38] <FireHazard17> cde is a sad excuse for a WM
[04:38] <trojjer> so I can just close this to the invisible Panel somewhere in RAM (Konv), and when I login to a KDE session it'll still be there?
[04:38] <Daskreech> jacques: Hmm I can't reach there either
[04:39] <Daskreech> !networking
[04:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about networking - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:39] <Daskreech> !network
[04:39] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:39] <trojjer> wtf??? It should be able to give you a link about networking, yikes
[04:39] <trojjer> biiiig topic
[04:39] <Daskreech> trojjer: Umm  not really
[04:39] <Daskreech> You can close the app and reopen it in KDE
[04:39] <trojjer> although network goes to wireless, lol
[04:40] <jacques> thanks for trying
[04:40] <Daskreech>  it will remember all your history
[04:40] <trojjer> ah
[04:40] <clyrrad> Quick question - any one here know how to stop KDE from loading when the PC reboots?  In otherwords I only want KDE to run if I type startx
[04:40] <Daskreech> jacques: what are you looking up?
[04:40] <deadowl> the topic of wireless is too big and therefore not well organized
[04:40] <trojjer> Clyyrad: You want to use GNOME instead?
[04:40] <Daskreech> clyrrad: you want a headless machine?
[04:40] <trojjer> lol
[04:40] <trojjer> ah right
[04:40] <trojjer> CLI
[04:40] <trojjer> sorry
[04:40] <Daskreech> clyrrad: Sorry a CLI machine ?
[04:40] <trojjer> duh
[04:40] <FireHazard17> dur
[04:40] <clyrrad> trojjer: no - I want a CLI only machine 90% of the time... I only want KDE to load when I tell it
[04:41] <trojjer> right
[04:41] <Daskreech> deadowl: Yes but it has a walkthrough
[04:41] <trojjer> you don't even want the X login?
[04:41] <FireHazard17> noes
[04:41] <clyrrad> correct
[04:41] <trojjer> gotcha
[04:41] <clyrrad> only if I type starx then KDE should load
[04:41] <trojjer> come on then people ;)
[04:41] <FireHazard17> startx
[04:41] <clyrrad> yes startx
[04:41] <FireHazard17> and then it loads
[04:41] <jacques>  I wanted to install some database servers
[04:41] <Minataku> clyrrad: Remove kdm from the default runlevel
[04:41] <FireHazard17> kde
[04:41] <clyrrad> so how do I disable it from starting automatically?
[04:41] <Minataku> !runlevel
[04:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about runlevel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:41] <Daskreech> clyrrad: alt+Enter -> System -> (press enter) -> advanced -> service manager
[04:41] <Minataku> Lame
[04:42] <FireHazard17> i hate ubotu
[04:42] <Daskreech> jacques: which servers ?
[04:42] <otaku-san> aaaah poor ubotu
[04:42] <baudthief> Hello - I've got 1GB of ram in this machine, so far ~500MB is used by Kubuntu + beryl, etc. If I leave it on for a day or so, it consumes all the free RAM and starts using swap (starts getting sluggish) - is there a reason for this?
[04:42] <clyrrad> Daskreech: alt+enter does nothing for me??
[04:42] <Daskreech> clyrrad: are you in KDE ?
[04:42] <clyrrad> Yep sure am
[04:42] <l_r> hello
[04:43] <trojjer> hi
[04:43] <Daskreech> clyrrad: :-(
[04:43] <Minataku> baudthief: Heh, brings back bad memories
[04:43] <clyrrad> Daskreech: is it not possible to get there via the K menu?
[04:43] <Daskreech> clyrrad: ok then open system settings -> Advanced -> System Services
[04:43] <trojjer> yes it's just the shortcut key lol
[04:43] <baudthief> Minataku: :\ This happenned before on my ubuntu (gnome) install, made it impossible to try and run vmware decently
[04:43] <trojjer> so many configurators to get used to though
[04:43] <FireHazard17> i hope ubotu goes insane with knowledge and kills himself
[04:44] <trojjer> and that's just the visual ones
[04:44] <clyrrad> Daskreech: ok im there now
[04:44] <l_r> i have a problem when terminating a session. whatever i click on (shutdown, reboot, etc..) , sometimes kde does not do shutdown, reboot. any idea?
[04:44] <Daskreech> clyrrad: take KDM out of your default boot level
[04:44] <clyrrad> Daskreech: ok I guress I enter in admin mode
[04:44] <l_r> i always have to to halt manually
[04:44] <Daskreech> clyrrad: good guess
[04:45] <clyrrad> Daskreech: ah i see the option :) Start doing boot
[04:45] <clyrrad> Just uncheck that and im good?
[04:45] <Minataku> baudthief: In my case, it was a kernel memory leak in ACPI
[04:45] <trojjer> (ah yes, about shutdown... why does my Ubuntu seem to take quite a bit longer than Windows to shutdown? I haven't compared it directly, but it seems like it does... and there are so many processing running at idle, lol... although at least I can see exactly what is running though, under "All Processes" -- better than the devious WinTaskMan)
[04:45] <Minataku> After 10 days, OOM stepped in and crashed everything because the kernel filled up all the RAM _and_ swap
[04:46] <FireHazard17> oom?
[04:46] <Daskreech> FireHazard17: one more than oop :)
[04:46] <FireHazard17> :P
[04:46] <clyrrad> Daskreech: thanks for your help
[04:46] <Minataku> Out Of Memory
[04:47] <trojjer> okay seeya when I login to KDE
[04:47] <Daskreech> clyrrad: sure
[04:47] <baudthief> Minataku: damn man, windows didn't even do this with me, had it on for weeks at a time with no probs
[04:47] <Daskreech> baudthief: which beryl
[04:47] <trojjer> ah twat
[04:47] <Cosmo_> I am trying to play a video file inside swiftfox but when it asks to install the plugin it comes back with the error "Unknown Plugin (video/divx) how do I fix it?
[04:47] <Minataku> baudthief: Nothing is perfect
[04:47] <trojjer> how do I logout without the panel again? Ctrl+Alt+Bk just restarts GNOME
[04:48] <FireHazard17> that sounds horrible
[04:48] <trojjer> it's how I lost the Panels in the first place
[04:48] <Daskreech> Cosmo_: Umm.. Install mplayer is my knee jerk reaction
[04:48] <Minataku> BTW: I did resolve it, I helped the kernel devs trace it and solve it
[04:48] <Daskreech> baudthief: and you are using pre alpha software :)
[04:48] <FireHazard17> try not using beryl
[04:48] <clyrrad> trojjer: you mean like how windows has a WINDOWS KEY + L option?
[04:48] <Cosmo_> Daskreech: already had it installed
[04:48] <Daskreech> Cosmo_: Not too sure.
[04:48] <FireHazard17> whats wondpws key + L do?
[04:49] <trojjer> lol
[04:49] <baudthief> Daskreech: How do I find out the version of beryl? No alpha/pre software on this install
[04:49] <Daskreech> Cosmo_: you could ask in #ubuntu as well they have more firefox/media experience
[04:49] <clyrrad> FireHazard17: it locks your session
[04:49] <FireHazard17> oh
[04:49] <Daskreech> baudthief: all of beryl is pre alpha so ... yeah you do
[04:49] <Dragnslcr> Heh, I was about to say
[04:49] <trojjer> yes the Super key... and how do I set the keybindings in KDE/GNOME so that it brings up the relevant "Start" menu? That'd be better than Ctrl+Esc for me
[04:49] <baudthief> damn, I just did it through apt
[04:49] <clyrrad> FireHazard17: like how your "screen saver" does - so you need to enter your password to resume your session
[04:49] <Daskreech> trojjer: alt+F1
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> trojjer: try alt-f2 kdesu /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[04:49] <Kansi> why does kubuntu becomes all white when I open beryl ?
[04:49] <Dragnslcr> Beryl isn't even close to beta yet
[04:49] <clyrrad> trojjer: yea - I would be interested to know that too
[04:49] <Daskreech> baudthief: :) Yeah it's nice but still very young
[04:50] <FireHazard17> yeah i get it i just never knew the shortcut
[04:50] <Daskreech>  baudthief: feisty I'm guessing ?
[04:50] <FireHazard17> ive used it just not the shortcut
[04:50] <Kansi> Dragnslcr:  but it works on ubuntu
[04:50] <Daskreech> baudthief: In any case lets find out what's eating your memory
[04:50] <Kansi> (gnome)
[04:50] <clyrrad> FireHazard17: ok guess that makes 3 of us wanting to know how to do that :p
[04:50] <baudthief> yeah feisty :\ Couldn't get 6.0x to install on this machine
[04:50] <Daskreech> baudthief: Ctrl+Esc
[04:51] <deadowl> i've got this for my wireless interface on kernel log: DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 14
[04:51] <deadowl> what does this mean exactly?
[04:51] <clyrrad> Daskreech: what does Ctrl+Esc do?  Bring up the password screen?
[04:51] <baudthief> Daskreech: Ctrl+Esc'd - i've just reboot so mem is "only" 617MB used
[04:51] <trojjer> nah Ctrl+Esc is the "Start"/K/Gnome bar
[04:51] <trojjer> I think
[04:51] <trojjer> oh
[04:51] <trojjer> lol
[04:52] <Daskreech> clyrrad: Nope it's the process manager in KDE
[04:52] <trojjer> oh
[04:52] <Daskreech> deadowl: it's trying to find a DHCP server
[04:52] <baudthief> (617MB according to free -m)
[04:52] <clyrrad> Daskreech: ah this is like the WinDOZE taksmanger.exe - cool I didnt know this
[04:52] <FireHazard17> win r ?
[04:52] <Daskreech> baudthief: what's using the most ?
[04:52] <FireHazard17> what did that do?
[04:52] <cntb> trojjer
[04:52] <trojjer> when I boot I get about 200MB+ with GNOME, and 150 or so with KDE
[04:52] <cntb> win+r is easy
[04:52] <Daskreech> FireHazard17: same thing as alt+F2
[04:52] <FireHazard17> oh
[04:53] <baudthief> Daskreech: as in vmSize?
[04:53] <trojjer> out of 512MB it isn't too bad, but it crawls with bloody Firefox
[04:53] <Daskreech> baudthief: I think
[04:53] <Daskreech> baudthief: I forget :)
[04:53] <FireHazard17> firefox is a mem hog?
[04:53] <clyrrad> very cool I didnt know KDE had this "taskmanager" feature - I always use the CML and ps aux |grep blah blah
[04:53] <cntb> also apply symbolic link cmd= konsole
[04:53] <trojjer> it is for me, with more than a few tabs
[04:53] <Daskreech> clyrrad: again it's going to be much kooler in KDE4
[04:53] <trojjer> strange anomaly
[04:54] <Daskreech> baudthief: sure what's using the most VMsize ?
[04:54] <clyrrad> Daskreech: cool enough for me now since I use the command line 90% of the time :)
[04:54] <trojjer> Konq seems a bit better but I'm not fussed on it
[04:54] <cntb> clyrrad niceing feature sometimes helps in task manager
[04:54] <Daskreech> clyrrad: You are killing KDE altogether why do you kare? :)
[04:54] <baudthief> Daskreech: For vmSize, Beryl is first with 196MB, Xorg is second with 125MB
[04:54] <clyrrad> Daskreech: nah im not killing it - I use it when I need GUI apps
[04:54] <clyrrad> like firefox for example
[04:54] <Daskreech> baudthief: can you ask in #ubuntu-effects iif that's normal ?
[04:55] <Daskreech> clyrrad: you could use w3m
[04:55] <baudthief> sure
[04:55] <clyrrad> Daskreech: w3m?
[04:55] <trojjer> ahh w3m... is that the w3c? Or am I getting confused with Amaya?
[04:55] <premier_> this is getting annoying... beryl won't start unless you kill kdesktop first
[04:55] <premier_> and no, beryl --replace does not work
[04:56] <cntb> I have image bkd up my kubuntu and I can shoot restore it from WINDOWS with ghost32 while windows running
[04:56] <Daskreech> clyrrad: command line web browser. pretty slick
[04:57] <premier_> Daskreech: by pretty slick, you mean, going back in time, right?
[04:57] <Daskreech> premier_: I mean getting a lot of stuff done while still being in the command line
[04:57] <clyrrad> Daskreech: ah - I use lynx for that
[04:57] <premier_> Daskreech: really?  cause I get a lot of stuff done and I don't have to use the command line
[04:58] <Daskreech> premier_: I never said you had to
[04:58] <cntb> is leadtek TVcard working OK with mythTV ?
[04:58] <Daskreech> clyrrad: It's installed already so ...
[04:59] <Daskreech> cntb: #mythtv-users
[04:59] <clyrrad> Daskreech: ok im gonna look at it now
[04:59] <baudthief> Daskreech: They said it's a buggy card driver ;\
[04:59] <cntb> k
[04:59] <Daskreech> baudthief: ahh Nvidia ?
[05:00] <Daskreech> No wiat
[05:00] <kewlie> Someone here earlier shared the command to d/l and install nvidia drivers but the OS is still complaining about have an active xserver running, I have tried the ways on ubuntu.com and ended up having to go into safe mode and reconfigure xserver to get back in?
[05:00] <Daskreech>  that was the black bug
[05:00] <Daskreech> kewlie: you have to answer in the form of a question ?
[05:00] <kewlie> lol no sorry that was slip
[05:00] <Daskreech> Ok :0
[05:00] <Daskreech> :-)
[05:01] <Daskreech> So you have a question ?
[05:01] <kewlie> i restart the xserver and get booted into a command line
[05:01] <clyrrad> Daskreech: yea w3m is pretty cool too - but is surely cant replace a GUI browser which can render CSS and images :)  - but a cool tool never the less - very much like lynx
[05:01] <Daskreech> clyrrad: Yeah I think that it may have a plugin for images
[05:01] <kewlie> im trying to install nvidia drivers but it complains about the xserver being active, i was told not to worry bout that however I cannot get around that error
[05:01] <Daskreech> or that might have been a different browser I forget :(
[05:02] <clyrrad> Daskreech: heh - that'd be kool!!!
[05:02] <baudthief> Daskreech: Beryl
[05:02] <Daskreech> baudthief: what video card?
[05:02] <baudthief> *'s ram consumption is going up by ~4mb/minute lol
[05:02] <baudthief> nVidia 7600GS
[05:03] <Daskreech> baudthief: time to change drivers? :)
[05:03] <Daskreech> kewlie: how are you installing ?
[05:03] <Daskreech> hi intelikey
[05:03] <intelikey> freenode has   -:- Current global users: 30430
[05:03] <baudthief> This is a fresh Kubuntu + nVidia install lol, did it yesterday using nVidia's drivers
[05:03] <Daskreech> !nvidia | baudthief
[05:03] <ubotu> baudthief: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:04] <intelikey> Daskreech
[05:04] <kewlie> in the terminal sudo sh (installer) commands
[05:04] <Daskreech> kewlie: do you have irissi installed ?
[05:04] <kewlie> i have no idea what that is
[05:05] <kewlie> i had them installed once but i tried to get beryl running and i corrupted the driver I think
[05:05] <intelikey> it's irssi  the console/terminal based irc client
[05:05] <Daskreech> kewlie: ok well before anyone starts messing with X I advise irissi
[05:05] <Daskreech> irssi :0
[05:05] <kewlie> ok thx
[05:05] <Daskreech> ;-)
[05:06] <baudthief> Daskreech: should I do a full system backup before attempting to install the binary drivers?
[05:06] <Daskreech> kewlie: Do you know how to switch to virtual terminals ?
[05:06] <kewlie> nope
[05:06] <Daskreech> baudthief: Ahhhm no that's a bit drastic
[05:06] <Daskreech> baudthief: you could though :)
[05:06] <kewlie> ive been playing with kubuntu for a month by myself trying to get this together lol
[05:06] <Daskreech> baudthief: You could listen in on this  conversation with kewlie though
[05:06] <intelikey> what's up doc
[05:07] <kewlie> i got the latest drivers and had them installed once, because glx and glxgears worked
[05:07] <dr_willis> got the weekend off!
[05:07] <dr_willis> :)
[05:07] <kewlie> i could run open gl apps great
[05:07] <Daskreech> kewlie: well install irssi and I'll play with you in the mean time
[05:07] <intelikey> kewl bein's
[05:07] <Daskreech>  baudthief you as well
[05:07] <home_> hello everyone
[05:08] <Daskreech> hi home_
[05:08] <baudthief> Daskreech: turns out I already have the binary restricted drivers :p
[05:08] <kewlie> ok brb ill go find this irssi
[05:08] <Daskreech> kewlie, baudthief: ok I want you to press alt+Ctrl+F1 and login as yourself then press alt+Ctrl+F7
[05:08] <Daskreech> that should bring you back here
[05:08] <kewlie> ok
[05:09] <kewlie> yes that works
[05:10] <baudthief> yep
[05:10] <Daskreech> kewlie: ok if you install irssi you can log into irc from the command line :)
[05:10] <kewlie> cool
[05:10] <kewlie> ill go do that
[05:10] <Daskreech> so if for some reason you break X bad you can still get help here
[05:11] <Daskreech> so if you press alt+ctrl+f1 and do a sudo apt-get install irssi
[05:11] <Daskreech> you can then do a irssi -c irc.freenode.net
[05:11] <Daskreech> when it comes up type /join #kubuntu
[05:11] <Daskreech> and we can play some more :)
[05:11] <intelikey> could put the channel on the command line too   ?
[05:12] <Daskreech> You can ?
[05:12] <kewlie> ok
[05:12] <baudthief> lol got my laptop out
[05:12] <Daskreech> Didn't look into it that much :)
[05:12] <BaudXP> test
[05:12] <Daskreech> intelikey: what's the switch ?
[05:12] <Daskreech> BaudXP: This is from windows Xp ?
[05:13] <intelikey> hehhe i don't use irssi.   for bx it's  -c  for channel  :)
[05:13] <baudthief> yeah, can't convert laptop to ubuntu too lol - need my development apps on it
[05:13] <Daskreech> cooties!!!
[05:13] <baudthief> haha
[05:13] <jason_> lol whoa
[05:13] <kewlie> lol yah thats cool
[05:14] <baudthief> jason_: does it remind you of days when the internet was so slow, that you'd spend the whole night and only get to see one woman? :p
[05:14] <jason_> lol
[05:14] <Daskreech> !women
[05:14] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[05:14] <Daskreech> in anycase :-)
[05:14] <jason_> oh man
[05:14] <baudthief> haha
[05:15] <Daskreech> well now you can play with your driverrs as much as you want and if you break something bad you can get help here :0
[05:15] <Daskreech> ;-)
[05:15] <jason_> my roomate just asked if this was some old bbs service lol
[05:15] <hitmanWilly> there's an uphill battle...
[05:15] <Daskreech> jason_: No would you like an old bbs service? :-)
[05:15] <cntb> how to includedvd kubuntu in source.list
[05:16] <cntb> !sources
[05:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:16] <baudthief> Daskreech: so binary drivers installed with apt aren't the latest?
[05:16] <Daskreech> cntb: Is it a live DVD ?
[05:16] <jason_> nah prodigy wore me out
[05:16] <Daskreech> baudthief: No they are stable
[05:16] <intelikey> well. Daskreech looks like i fumbled that one.   irssi doesn't support channel on the command line     not according to the man page anyway.
[05:16] <cntb> yes Daskreech
[05:16] <cntb> can it be used as a source
[05:16] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: got there about 2 secs before me...
[05:16] <Daskreech> cntb: as far as I know it cannot be used as a source I could be very wrong give me a second
[05:17] <cntb> for apt-get
[05:17] <Kr4t05> Is there any way to just completely replace kicker?
[05:17] <intelikey> hitmanWilly i had to install it to check....
[05:17] <Kr4t05> I have AWN as a taskbar/systemtray, but I still want access to a K-menu
[05:17] <cntb> well I need local repository and I hoped this would be it
[05:17] <hitmanWilly> ahhh....
[05:17] <cntb> np
[05:17] <Daskreech> cntb: wait
[05:17] <Daskreech> cntb: I could be wrong
[05:17] <cntb> I am tired of installing from net all the time
[05:17] <dr_willis> Kr4t05,  i think its doable.. but never bothered. :) ya could make a new desktop.session to run just what you want
[05:18] <Daskreech> !dvd
[05:18] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:18] <Daskreech> Drat :)
[05:18] <Kr4t05> dr_willis: Eh?
[05:18] <Daskreech> cntb: have you tried apt-cdrom ?
[05:18] <hitmanWilly> cntb: it doesn't really matter since they'll probably get re-downloaded in a couple upgrades anyway
[05:18] <intelikey> oh well.   i looked.    and now tty24 [root@~]  urpme irssi
[05:18] <Daskreech> hitmanWilly: you sir are joking :)
[05:19] <dr_willis> Kr4t05,  make a new entry/desktop sessiin for your kdm  login that lods just the kde window manager, and your panel  perhaps
[05:19] <Kr4t05> dr_willis: Ah...
[05:19] <hitmanWilly> yes...and no
[05:19] <Daskreech> cntb: put the dvd in and run apt-cdrom
[05:19] <Daskreech> or sudo apt-cdrom
[05:19] <intelikey> cntb i share your disdain of network installation of all software.
[05:19] <jason_> lol nvidia still wants a xserver killed doh
[05:20] <Daskreech> jason_: kill it then
[05:20] <baudthief> hmm maybe I should just get rid of beryl :\
[05:20] <jason_> dont know how, the only command ive seen is init 3 and that doesnt seem to do anything
[05:20] <Daskreech> jason_: alt+ctrl+F2 -> Login -> sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop -> <do install stuff>
[05:20] <baudthief> or get another 1GB of ram lol, that way it'll take 4 days to fill up instead of 2 :p
[05:21] <cntb> good thing about network it is most prolly updated
[05:21] <Daskreech> baudthief: or get better drivers
[05:21] <Daskreech> cntb: bad thing is it's sloooooow
[05:21] <intelikey> cntb only if you have the updates and security repos enabled
[05:21] <baudthief> Daskreech: that tutorial you showed me said to use restricted-manager to install the proper drivers, yet there's no option to change/upgrade?
[05:21] <kewlie> oh thx
[05:22] <Daskreech> baudthief: well if you installed the ones from nvidia's site they are newer than the ones that the restricted-manager installs so it has no incentive to change them
[05:23] <baudthief> ahh I didn't, I just installed using apt-get - so I just head up to nvidia's site, download + install?
[05:23] <intelikey> jason_ to learn a little of the very basics of job control.  you should first read the manual page on the man command so you'll kinda understand how to find/view manual pages.  then look at the infonode on    !cli
[05:24] <jason_> i see that now
[05:24] <intelikey> !cli | jason_  type; man man     then look here >
[05:24] <intelikey> ooops where's the bot ?
[05:24] <jason_> lol
[05:24] <intelikey> !cli
[05:24] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:24] <intelikey> there  ^
[05:24] <Daskreech> baudthief: wait. it's the apt-get driver behaving badly?
[05:24] <jason_> i did the kdm stop and now im at the text command line thx
[05:24] <baudthief> according to ubuntu-effects it is, they didnt ask what driver i'm using
[05:25] <Daskreech> baudthief: they certainly know more than I do :)
[05:25] <intelikey> jason_ at least make a note of that for future referance.  you'll be glad you did.
[05:25] <baudthief> lol, ok so the drivers from the nvidia site are "better", or should I just not bother?
[05:26] <Daskreech> baudthief: I don't know :)
[05:26] <Daskreech> baudthief: this is where I turn you over to #ubuntu-effects to pester them :)
[05:27] <baudthief> haha alright
[05:27] <intelikey> /me can't install nvidia drivers  ;'(    </sniff>
[05:27] <hitmanWilly> baudthief: actually, the ones from the site are worse for ubuntu that the repo ones
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> baudthief: if you just want the latest ones, apt-get nvidia-glx-new
[05:28] <pikko> hello...
[05:28] <intelikey> assuming it's not legacy ^
[05:28] <Daskreech> !hi
[05:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:28] <pikko> hi
[05:28] <hitmanWilly> true...
[05:29] <pikko> what's the topic?
[05:29] <Daskreech> !topic
[05:29] <ubotu> Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic
[05:29] <baudthief> ok, trying nvidia-glx-new
[05:29] <intelikey> i see what happened on that bot call i messed up.... it's the second pipe. it sent the whole post to  >
[05:29] <hitmanWilly> baudthief: what kind of card is it?
[05:30] <baudthief> hitmanWilly: 7600GS
[05:30] <baudthief> *nVidia
[05:30] <hitmanWilly> baudthief: ok, youre fine with the -new ones then
[05:30] <baudthief> sweet heh... I did an apt-get install nvidia-glx-new, it's done
[05:30] <baudthief> what now?
[05:31] <intelikey> does he need to configure ?
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> baudthief: run sudo nvidia-xconfig, then reboot
[05:31] <hitmanWilly> baudthief: full reboot, not just an X restart
[05:31] <baudthief> Done
[05:31] <baudthief> no probs heh, back soon, rebooting
[05:32] <intelikey> what's that command to probe the monitor again ?
[05:33] <BaudXP> haha... probe the monitor :p
[05:33] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ?
[05:33] <flake> that's some serious p03n
[05:33] <intelikey> yes to get the refresh rates and stuff that it supports
[05:34] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: crap...i forget...
[05:34] <BaudXP> haha same
[05:34] <intelikey> i did too   and if i find it again i'm gonna make a note and file it on three drives for safe keeping
[05:35] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:35] <intelikey> forget that it   ^
[05:36] <intelikey> oh yes, does unzip not support unpacking .exe archives ?
[05:37] <intelikey> hmmm says they are... but i have a .exe that it doesn't unzip
[05:38] <Daskreech> cntb: ping
[05:38] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: are you sure its a zip exe or is it something like a .cab extractor?
[05:38] <intelikey> Note that self-extracting ZIP files are supported, as with any other ZIP archive; just  specify  the .exe suffix (if any) explicitly. <<< man unzip said.
[05:39] <intelikey> hitmanWilly hmmm well...   lemme check
[05:39] <intelikey> FAH504-Linux.exe: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for
[05:39] <intelikey> GNU/Linux 2.0.0, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, stripped
[05:40] <intelikey> maybe it's not zipped....
[05:41] <intelikey> well looks like it's not.   hehhe just expected the .exe to be a self extracting zip file   it's just an elf binary
[05:41] <jason_> is it ok to let nvidia compile a kernel interface for my cards driver?
[05:41] <dr_willis> that would be weird. :)
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> jason_: yes
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> jason_: it needs to do that to work
[05:43] <dblespresso> anyone know how to tuen off http referrer in konqueror? not alot out there on this...
[05:43] <dblespresso> er, turn off
[05:43] <jason_> this os is way more involved than I thought
[05:43] <jason_> but thats a good thing
[05:43] <dblespresso> lol
[05:44] <jason_> i use xp all day at work and no less than 4 times a day does the server or the terminals crash for no reason
[05:44] <dblespresso> this os is what you will never leave when you become well-versed in it.
[05:44] <jason_> lol it played n64 games im all for it
[05:44] <intelikey> well ok.  now i have answers to these "people" (started to say kids...)  that come in asking about those  *.exe  for linux downloads from UNI.   they are ELF executables.   you just run them.
[05:45] <intelikey> hitmanWilly you might want to note that also   ^
[05:45] <dblespresso> lol@exe
[05:45] <dblespresso> anyone know anything about http referrer in konqueror?
[05:45] <intelikey> dblespresso yes i have no idea why it has a file extention.
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: maybe to not confuse the windows folks?
[05:46] <hitmanWilly> which is an extremely bad idea imho
[05:46] <intelikey> maybe.  but it has the reverse affect on the linux folk for whom it's intended  so....
[05:47] <intelikey> yes mine too
[05:47] <dblespresso> i think that linux, esp. ubuntu, is catering a little too much to the windows crowd in the hopes they'll find it easier
[05:47] <intelikey> indeed
[05:47] <mjn> greetings. i have a question about installing vmplayer via adept.
[05:47] <hitmanWilly> well, they're starting to get the bloat factor down...
[05:47] <mjn> is this the right place?
[05:47] <dblespresso> there's a huge diff between bein a user and actually using computers
[05:48] <intelikey> lol @ bloat factor...      "by a magnatude"    :}
[05:48] <Daskreech> jason_: it does
[05:48] <BaudXP> oh man, after installing the new drivers the video tearing problem is back, wont allow me to select a refresh rate above 54hz :(
[05:48] <dblespresso> i actually thought about downloading the new fedora 7, but i've been using (k)ubuntu since it came out. i cannot seem to tear myself away...
[05:48] <hitmanWilly> BaudXP: try adding the refresh into xorg.conf
[05:49] <intelikey> 54HURTS    !
[05:49] <mjn> after installing the vmplayer, it keeps on trying to configure the vmware network setting everytime i use the dpkg
[05:49] <Daskreech> dblespresso: please do :) it might broaden you for a few months :)
[05:49] <Daskreech> more knowledge is good
[05:49] <titanix88> dblespresso: i was an windows fan & after ubuntu i don't like windows XP because it's cmd line is too weak!(i love GNU/Linux :)
[05:50] <vit_> hola
[05:50] <hitmanWilly> dblespresso: ive run pretty much every major distro/base out there at one point or another
[05:50] <Daskreech> hi knapp_
[05:50] <vit_> hola a todos
[05:50] <dblespresso> been a linux user since '98. used red hat, then mandrake, now ubuntu
[05:50] <intelikey> are they up to seven already....   'tisk tisk'  only seems like yesterday they forked...   i still have rh9
[05:50] <Daskreech> hitmanWilly: and the best is haikuos isn't it? :)
[05:50] <dblespresso> before that i was a mac user
[05:51] <BaudXP> lol I should mention that 640x480 is the max res i'm allowed to choose too :p
[05:51] <hitmanWilly> Daskreech: don't make me hurt you.../jk
[05:51] <dblespresso> fedora doesn't seem to support my laptop near as well as ubuntu does
[05:51] <Daskreech> hitmanWilly: awww don't be like that
[05:51] <dblespresso> ubunti just *works*
[05:51] <dblespresso> er, ubuntu
[05:51] <Daskreech> hitmanWilly: I know the best one is $OSIUSENOW
[05:51] <titanix88> btw everyone ,why not use GNU/Linux term? We need to give credits to FSF too, not just Linux Kernel Developers.
[05:52] <hitmanWilly> lol, always is...
[05:52] <Daskreech> titanix88: cool go right ahead :)
[05:52] <Daskreech> hi jason_ How's that bbs kicking ?
[05:52] <intelikey> BaudXP well ridiged rate and fixed size.  yep the new driver is working.   :)    all kidding aside.  i think you are but a step or two from getting that thing to produce the graphics it was made for...    unfortuneately i don't know the setps...
[05:52] <intelikey> steps
[05:53] <intelikey> eceh
[05:53] <intelikey> even
[05:53] <intelikey> i'll get back on home key some day.
[05:53] <dblespresso> titanix... RMS is nice and all, but linux is just a kernel, not an OS. each distro throws in its own userland and makes it an actual distro. the term linux is generic and works well for what it's intended to do... convey information
[05:54] <Daskreech> dblespresso: please don't start a Political row in here
[05:54] <intelikey> dblespresso actually the kernel is the os all the rest is fluff
[05:54] <Daskreech> intelikey: and you don't encourage it :-P
[05:54] <intelikey> Daskreech i do too
[05:54] <Daskreech> You are all welcomed to chat about it in OT
[05:54] <dblespresso> a kernel without a userland is not an OS, bro. it's just a kernel
[05:54] <Daskreech> !OT
[05:54] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[05:54] <intelikey> oh never mind.
[05:55] <Daskreech> dblespresso, intelikey and titanix88: Chat away in #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:55] <Daskreech> I want to encourage the discussion just not in here
[05:56] <BaudXP> intelikey: argh :(
[05:56] <intelikey> BaudXP what did i do now ?
[05:56] <Tm_Konvi> agreed
[05:56] <titanix88> dblespresso, intelikey and titanix88: well let's go offtopic. they just want to use k/ubuntu in ur everyline :(
[05:57] <Tm_Konvi> hm, no superpowers
[05:57] <Daskreech> Tm_Konvi: my cow doesn't have it either :(
[05:59] <Tm_Konvi> Daskreech: well,just should take over my normal client
[05:59] <intelikey> lol
[05:59] <intelikey> yeah that !   @ Daskreech
[06:00] <intelikey> Tm_Konvi what issue exactly ?
[06:01] <Tm_Konvi> intelikey: er?
[06:02] <Daskreech> hi nik
[06:02] <intelikey> Tm_T oh nevermind  thought you were having an issue.   sorry, misunderstood the "<Tm_Konvi> hm, no superpowers"
[06:03] <intelikey> Tm_Konvi ^
[06:03] <Tm_Konvi> hmm, looks like I once again have over one minute pings
[06:03] <intelikey> someone trying to kick your door down ?
[06:03] <Tm_Konvi> intelikey: what issue where?
[06:04] <Tm_Konvi> intelikey: ah that issue, hostmask in access list
[06:04] <Tm_Konvi> so, should take Tm_T in action to be able to wear that silly hat
[06:05] <Tm_Konvi> woohoo, less than 6 hours left downloading!
[06:06] <BaudXP> oh man, this is crap - I can't change my display resolution to anything higher than 640x480
[06:06] <BaudXP> what was the point of the new drivers!
[06:06] <hendaus> titanix88: wb
[06:06] <Tm_Konvi> and just for get my Kubuntu uptodate
[06:06] <Daskreech> !resolution
[06:06] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:06] <Daskreech> BaudXP: ^^^
[06:06] <intelikey> Tm_Konvi oh my!  not on dialup are you ?
[06:06] <titanix88> hendaus: long time no see :)
[06:06] <hendaus> :)
[06:07] <Tm_Konvi> harhar, and should update KDE4 svn too, that will take day or two too =)
[06:07] <hendaus> titanix88:  i need u urgent
[06:08] <Tm_Konvi> intelikey: well, sort of yes, gprs, that means dialup using gsm phone
[06:08] <LeeJunFan> So all the blazing speeds of dial-up with twice the latency? :)
[06:08] <Tm_Konvi> intelikey: so, dialup modem with high latency =)
[06:09] <dr_willis> Hmm.. are thses "SD" memory cards for camera like real  senestive? ive had 2 die on me in the last week.
[06:09] <Daskreech> Yeah
[06:10] <LeeJunFan> dr_willis: make sure they aren't mounted with sync option if they are fat FS.
[06:10] <di_> hi, how do i get konqueror to close a tab when i middle click it?
[06:10] <dr_willis> one only lasted a week.
[06:10] <dr_willis> using them in my gp2x player/handheld.
[06:10] <dr_willis> the silly thing aint even showing up in fdisk.
[06:10] <dr_willis> windows aint even seeing the one either.
[06:11] <Daskreech> di_: middle click drags tabs or opens URLS
[06:11] <di_> Daskreech: oh
[06:11] <di_> i think i just have to get used to that
[06:11] <di_> thanks anyway
[06:11] <di_> kde rocks
[06:12] <Daskreech> di_: Yeah you'll use Ctrl+W a lot more
[06:12] <di_> just wondering how to get the window list bar to show only apps open on the current desktop
[06:12] <di_> because im using 5-sided 3d beryl
[06:13] <Dragnslcr> Right-click the taskbar and go to Configure Panel
[06:13] <intelikey> i would normally call the bot on that...   !beryl
[06:13] <Dragnslcr> In the Taskbar section there's an option to show/hide windows from all desktops
[06:13] <di_> there is?
[06:14] <intelikey> Dragnslcr in beryl ?
[06:15] <di_> Dragnslcr: i can't find that option
[06:16] <intelikey> i think i may have found a new cpu fan !!! scratch that, used cpu fan for my main box.   it's hard to find old parts new any more.
[06:17] <intelikey> this case fan is too noisy to use for a cpu fan.  maybe i just used too big a case fan.  or too high a voltage
[06:17] <di_> Dragnslcr: ah
[06:18] <di_> i had to disable beryl first and use kwin
[06:18] <di_> thanks
[06:18] <di_> oh wait
[06:18] <di_> sigh
[06:19] <intelikey> !beryl | di_ you may find more helpfull help where beryl is supported.
[06:19] <ubotu> di_ you may find more helpfull help where beryl is supported.: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[06:20] <Dragnslcr> Oh, guess that's only in vanilla KDE
[06:20] <Dragnslcr> Sorry 'bout that
[06:20] <di_> its ok
[06:20] <di_> ill live with it fine
[06:20] <intelikey> just ignore me.
[06:20] <Dragnslcr> I would imagine Beryl has the same option somewhere
[06:20] <di_> hmm
[06:20] <intelikey> no body ever reads what i write anyway...
[06:20] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[06:21] <Solifugus> How do you play videos in caffeine?  I mean, openning a video file with caffeine shows my some options like playlist, play dvd, etc.. how do I play the stinking video I double-clicked on in the first place?
[06:24] <Solifugus> It's just this mpeg-4 video: http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/gallery/videos.html
[06:25] <intelikey> !mpg
[06:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:26] <intelikey> prolly not relevent.
[06:26] <intelikey> but could be a codec issue
[06:26] <Solifugus> how do you get codecs?  i read shuttleworth saying that ubuntu makes it easy to get codecs
[06:26] <intelikey> you have libxine-extracodecs (!sp) installed ?
[06:27] <dr_willis> !codecs
[06:27] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:27] <jean> hello
[06:27] <jean> how to rar unrar?
[06:27] <intelikey> isn't that like the same infonode ?   anything from vlc to avi sill hit that same infonode  ^
[06:27] <jean> latest kubuntu
[06:27] <Daskreech> !rar
[06:27] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:27] <jean> thanx!
[06:27] <intelikey> !unrar | jean
[06:27] <ubotu> jean: please see above
[06:28] <Solifugus> libxine-extracodecs is installing now..
[06:28] <jean> thanx guys!
[06:28] <jean> ;o)
[06:29] <intelikey> Solifugus i make you no promices but, that's supposed to fix it.   you should really give the page ubotu mentioned a once over.
[06:29] <Solifugus> thanks.. its at least some things to try..
[06:31] <intelikey> Freejack_CSI ?      money for nothing  and that stupid TV show  ???
[06:31] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[06:31] <Daskreech> hi leileilol
[06:33] <leileilol> nihao
[06:33] <jwallingford> in suse we used packman and guru for repositories.... is there anything like that for kubuntu?
[06:34] <Daskreech> !adept
[06:34] <dr_willis> ubuntu uses the apt system
[06:34] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[06:34] <Dragnslcr> I gotta say, Adept rocks
[06:34] <jfrerichs> hi i have been trying to get my logitech bluetooth mouse to auto connect but I cant seem to get it anyone know how?
[06:35] <Dragnslcr> jfrerichs- when your system boots?
[06:35] <intelikey> Dragnslcr ever break dpkg yet ?
[06:35] <Dragnslcr> intelikey- heh, nope
[06:35] <Daskreech> !bluetooth
[06:35] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:35] <jwallingford> dr_willis: is there a list of repositories and what they have anywhere? can i use packman and guru in ubuntu?
[06:35] <jfrerichs> ya im on a laptop so i would like to do it whenever
[06:36] <pawitp> Isn't bluetooth kinda automatic with kde?
[06:36] <Datalanche> Is there a Qt based Winamp-like media player? I know I could just install beep or use amarok, but I really want a smaller player to throw stuff around in without messing up my amarok playlists and stuff
[06:36] <Daskreech> Datalanche: I just use kaffiene for that
[06:36] <jfrerichs> my bluetooth works if i do a hidd --search in terminal but cant auto
[06:37] <intelikey> Dragnslcr dpkg/apt/whatever is good.  but it's not all that.   i have had more trubble with it than i ever did with urpmi in mandrake [8-10]     but there really is no "perfect" package management.
[06:37] <dr_willis> jwallingford,  packman and guru are a totally different system. Ubuntu/Kubuntu uses apt and its related tools
[06:37] <dr_willis> !apt
[06:37] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:37] <Datalanche> yeah that's what I've been doing.. it works but I was just wondering if there was a Qt alternative to beep
[06:37] <Dragnslcr> jfrerichs- take a look at /etc/default/bluetooth
[06:38] <intelikey> Datalanche sox if you don't need a gui frontend
[06:38] <Dragnslcr> jfrerichs- make sure BLUETOOTH_ENABLED and HIDD_ENABLED are set to 1
[06:39] <jfrerichs> ya i did that already
[06:39] <pawitp> intelikey: That's not qt
[06:39] <Dragnslcr> Then do this line (change it where it already is)- HIDD_OPTIONS="--connect 00:01:02:03:04:05 --connect 00:06:07:08:09:0A --server"
[06:39] <jfrerichs> i also added hidd options
[06:40] <intelikey> pawitp no it's not.
[06:40] <Dragnslcr> jfrerichs- obviously those MAC addresses should be the addresses for your devices
[06:40] <intelikey> pawitp it's not gtk either
[06:40] <jfrerichs> ya i have it that way
[06:40] <Dragnslcr> jfrerichs- if you have only a mouse (I have a mouse and keyboard), you'd only have one --connect
[06:40] <jfrerichs> yep i do
[06:41] <jfrerichs> should i take out the --master
[06:41] <Dragnslcr> You can try
[06:41] <jfrerichs> and leave the --server
[06:41] <intelikey> Datalanche i think there is a kde app... give me a sec.
[06:42] <intelikey> kaffeine - versatile media player for KDE 3
[06:42] <intelikey> kmplayer - media player for KDE
[06:42] <Datalanche> Yeah, I have those two
[06:42] <intelikey> kdemultimedia - multimedia apps from the official KDE release
[06:42] <Dragnslcr> jfrerichs- I know it took a while for me to get it working right. Try checking some of these pages: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=bluetooth&titlesearch=Titles
[06:43] <intelikey> kaboodle - light, embedded media player for KDE
[06:43] <intelikey> Datalanche that's the one i'm thinking of  ^
[06:43] <Datalanche> okay, I'll give it a look. Thanks!
[06:43] <intelikey> may not be what you want but worth a shot
[06:44] <baudthief> is there a way to rename "Remote share (blah) on blah" icons that appear on the desktop, or at least stop them from appearing on the desktop to begin with?
[06:44] <intelikey> baudthief unless it has changed, right click the desktop and you can configure it to display device icons as you like.
[06:44] <jfrerichs> thaanks il try looking at those pages ill get back to you thanks dragslcr
[06:45] <intelikey> some all or none
[06:46] <intelikey> baudthief and don't be a thief,  no one likes thieves.  :)
[06:46] <baudthief> intelikey: does it require a reboot to take effect?
[06:46] <baudthief> But i like theifing :\
[06:46] <intelikey> baudthief no.
[06:46] <baudthief> intelikey: Then it's not working :p
[06:46] <intelikey> baudthief this is not that M$ reboot os
[06:46] <pawitp> The only thing linux need reboot for is the kernel
[06:46] <intelikey> you may have to umount the share   but not a reboot.
[06:47] <intelikey> pawitp almost,
[06:47] <pawitp> intelikey: What else does it needs reboot for
[06:48] <intelikey> pawitp well kernel or some kernel related  "modules"  that can't be rmmod'd
[06:48] <pawitp> intelikey: That's kernel anyway, you're cheating!
[06:48] <baudthief> intelikey: Umounted but still no effect, I disabled mouted/unmounted smb/nfs shares from appearing but they're still there
[06:49] <pawitp> baudthief: Try relogin
[06:49] <baudthief> np
[06:49] <intelikey> baudthief well that's the place.   look again.   if pawitp's sujestion doesn't do it...
[06:50] <defcon> gnome or kde?
[06:50] <intelikey> defcon blackbox !
[06:50] <defcon> ;] 
[06:50] <defcon> blackbox better than fluxbox?
[06:50] <pawitp> !kde
[06:50] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop , or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE) . Latest KDE version is 3.5.7 for Feisty, 3.5.6 for Edgy, and 3.5.5 for Dapper. See http://kubuntu.org) for more information.
[06:50] <intelikey> flux is a fork of black
[06:50] <defcon> blackbox work well on ubuntu?
[06:51] <intelikey> yes it does.  but if you like kde you prolly wont think much of bb
[06:51] <pawitp> And who likes the name "bubuntu"?
[06:51] <jfrerichs> Dragslcr i have read most of those pages before how did you get yours to work
[06:51] <fati> bb is cool, but once you try fluxbox you won't want to bother hehe
[06:51] <intelikey> pawitp mark shuttelworth ?
[06:52] <Dragnslcr> I dunno, I just kept trying stuff until it did
[06:52] <jfrerichs> k
[06:52] <pawitp> intelikey: You never know
[06:52] <intelikey> fati i've used both.
[06:52] <Bicchi> besides gnome/kde/xfce, are there any other desktops environments been supported?
[06:52] <fati> intelikey: :O
[06:53] <intelikey> fati i like twm   but they broke it in  the  LTS release
[06:53] <LetoAtreides> Ok, an app I developed that works 100% in the 10 distros I tried, crashes X when I move the window in 7.04, how can I see what happened?
[06:53] <Daskreech> intelikey: Why did it stop shipping?
[06:53] <fati> intelikey: twm! that's hardcore
[06:53] <intelikey> "<Daskreech> intelikey: Why did it stop shipping?"   you totaly lost me.  ?
[06:53] <Daskreech> LetoAtreides: start X and it from a virtual terminal and write the error log to a file
[06:54] <Daskreech> intelikey: twm they stopped shipping it with X.org
[06:54] <intelikey> fati and minimalist!
[06:54] <Daskreech>  it used to ship with Xfree
[06:54] <fati> intelikey: i used to use fluxbox primarily, and then i realized i had all this memory i wasn't using and it needed to go somewhere, so now i'm kde bound hehe
[06:54] <pawitp> !twm
[06:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about twm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:54] <intelikey> Daskreech yeah i don't know why.
[06:54] <intelikey> !info twm
[06:54] <ubotu> twm: Tab window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-4build1 (feisty), package size 93 kB, installed size 284 kB
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> its when they went to the modular X...and ubuntu didn't bring in that module :P
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> im guessing
[06:55] <intelikey> hitmanWilly you have that on good authority or is that a guess ?
[06:55] <intelikey> shoot too late...
[06:55] <Daskreech> hitmanWilly: Hmm I'll look into that
[06:55] <LetoAtreides> what is the name of the meta package that installs build tools?
[06:55] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: still comes with it on gentoo
[06:55] <Daskreech> !b-e
[06:55] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:56] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: at least with the monolithic version
[06:56] <LetoAtreides> anyone know?
[06:56] <Daskreech> !b-e | LetoAtreides
[06:56] <ubotu> LetoAtreides: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:56] <dr_willis> LetoAtreides,  the bot just told ya :)
[06:57] <LetoAtreides> I didnt ask that
[06:57] <LetoAtreides> not the Q I asked
[06:57] <dr_willis> its on that tips page
[06:57] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yeah.  but i'm thinking it's just a dependancy thing.  you can set it as a dep. for the meta package or not.  so it's distro choice.     "now i'm guessing"
[06:57] <dr_willis> its build-essentials or essential or extential
[06:57] <hitmanWilly> :)
[06:57] <dr_willis> or exponetial
[06:57] <LetoAtreides> ah ok I read the last parts of the bot msg and didnt realze it because that didnt apply
[06:57] <dr_willis> of course ya proberly need a lot of OTHER dev packages as well
[06:58] <dr_willis> depending on what you are doing
[06:58] <intelikey> dr_willis exostentialism ?
[06:58] <dr_willis> hmm !be used tobe different factoid
[06:58] <dr_willis> Build-Exoskeleton
[06:58] <dr_willis> !build-esential
[06:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about build-esential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:58] <LetoAtreides> yeah for some reason my app is not compiling, it doesnt find std::string
[06:58] <dr_willis> !find build
[06:58] <ubotu> Found: artsbuilder, build-essential, dh-buildinfo, libextutils-cbuilder-perl, libmodule-build-perl (and 43 others)
[06:58] <dr_willis> !find essential
[06:58] <ubotu> Found: build-essential
[06:58] <LetoAtreides> something is missing
[06:59] <dr_willis> install build-essential  - if you have not allready done so
[06:59] <intelikey> you dropped one "s"    misspelled ^
[06:59] <hitmanWilly> can you grep with the bo?
[06:59] <hitmanWilly> bot*
[06:59] <dr_willis> Build Exponetial = for fast growing projects. :)
[06:59] <intelikey> no.  but it can search and will only display about five hits.
[07:00] <intelikey> @ hitmanWilly
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> so i see :)
[07:00] <dr_willis> !find porn
[07:00] <ubotu> Found: pornview
[07:00] <dr_willis> :)
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> lol
[07:00] <LetoAtreides> hrm, nope, I think this version  of kubuntu is broken
[07:00] <dr_willis> !find elvis
[07:00] <ubotu> Found: elvis, elvis-common, elvis-console, elvis-tiny, elvis-tools
[07:00] <hitmanWilly> !info pornview
[07:00] <ubotu> pornview: Image and movie viewer/manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2pre1-7 (feisty), package size 223 kB, installed size 664 kB
[07:00] <intelikey> hitmanWilly also it strips escape chars. so you can't have much fun with it...
[07:01] <hitmanWilly> ah, crap...
[07:01] <intelikey> LetoAtreides ?
[07:01] <LetoAtreides> yes?
[07:02] <intelikey> what error ?
[07:02] <LetoAtreides> An app I made that builds 100% in every distro (even 6.10) and runs perfectly in them as well, will NOT build or run in 7.04
[07:03] <Daskreech> !pastebin | LetoAtreides
[07:03] <ubotu> LetoAtreides: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:04] <intelikey> LetoAtreides sounds like something just not installed.    may we see the error ?
[07:04] <jwallingford> so there was no way for me to set a root password. The password it asks for on any administrative things is my users password. When I try and login as root my password does not work. Why is this? Is kubuntu's security different from other linux distros ive used or did i just miss something during installation?
[07:04] <intelikey> !root | jwallingford
[07:04] <ubotu> jwallingford: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:05] <Daskreech> jwallingford: and yes you are right it is different
[07:05] <Daskreech> jwallingford: root is disabled by default
[07:05] <intelikey> jwallingford you can   sudo -i   for a root shell     you can set the root password with   sudo passwd        and you can read the page to learn all about it  ^
[07:05] <baudthief> Found the cause of the video tearing :(
[07:05] <dr_willis> jwallingford,  you can set a actual root password. but its best to elarn to use the sudo system
[07:05] <baudthief> seems as though I need to decide whether I want uber-smooth beryl effects, or smooth playing video
[07:06] <dr_willis> jwallingford,  ubuntu tries to keep things VERY SECURE by default
[07:06] <LetoAtreides> intelikey I pasted the build err
[07:06] <LetoAtreides> the runtime err I dont know, it kills X and KDE restarts
[07:06] <dr_willis> night all
[07:06] <intelikey> LetoAtreides url ?
[07:06] <LetoAtreides> for?
[07:07] <LetoAtreides> look at like 2 of my comments up
[07:07] <LetoAtreides> for the build err
[07:07] <jwallingford> ok thank you guys... do you suggest i change the sudo password? Seems to me it would be more secure to have a different password for sudo
 intelikey I pasted the build err <<<< url please ?
[07:08] <intelikey> !paste | LetoAtreides
[07:08] <ubotu> LetoAtreides: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:08] <LetoAtreides> I pasted in chan, its just 1 line (its the same bulid err over and over) a link err really
[07:08] <Daskreech> jwallingford: to change your sudo password you change your password
[07:08] <intelikey> oh i'll look again.
[07:08] <Daskreech> jwallingford: if you want to make it more secure make a better password and the enter system becomes more secure
[07:09] <Daskreech> LetoAtreides: We never got ti
[07:09] <Daskreech> it
[07:09] <alakhia> does anyone know where I can get GL/glut.h from?
[07:09] <LetoAtreides> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23682/
[07:09] <LetoAtreides> thats the jist of the build err
[07:10] <intelikey> looking
[07:10] <Daskreech> alakhia: No. I'm guessing freeglut-dev
[07:10] <LetoAtreides> about 3000 lines of that, every place I have an std::string
[07:10] <Daskreech> !find freeglut
[07:10] <ubotu> Found: freeglut3, freeglut3-dbg, freeglut3-dev
[07:10] <Daskreech> !info freeglut3-dev
[07:10] <ubotu> freeglut3-dev: OpenGL Utility Toolkit development files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4.0-5 (feisty), package size 151 kB, installed size 584 kB
[07:10] <intelikey> LetoAtreides maybe    libstdc++6-dev - The GNU Standard C++ Library v3 (development files)
[07:11] <Daskreech> alakhia: try freeglut3-dev
[07:11] <Daskreech> alakhia: or glutg3-dev
[07:11] <alakhia> Daskreech: Yes, that was it ... freeglut3-dev! Thanks!
[07:11] <Daskreech> cool
[07:11] <alakhia> Daskreech: :-)
[07:11] <LetoAtreides> intellikey still same err
[07:12] <LetoAtreides> are you on 7.04 intelikey?
[07:13] <LetoAtreides> brb  (maybe) going to try and run an older bulid
[07:14] <intelikey> LetoAtreides no i'm not.
[07:14] <Daskreech> intelikey: you should be able to /media from the command line :(
[07:14] <LetoAtreides> Ok that crashed too
[07:15] <LetoAtreides> is anyone on 7.04 that is willing to run my app and see if its just me that crashes?
[07:16] <intelikey> Daskreech ?
[07:19] <LetoAtreides> damn
[07:19] <intelikey> LetoAtreides i still think that's a lib missing.  but can't find which.
[07:19] <LetoAtreides> how would that crash X?
[07:20] <intelikey> uncle google "undefined reference to `std:" might find it.
[07:20] <LetoAtreides> are you on 7.04 ?  if so www.rpgds.com is where my dl is
[07:20] <LetoAtreides> I tried that
[07:20] <intelikey> not sure how it would crash X,     and no i'm not but i have seen that error before.
[07:21] <LetoAtreides> well thats the bulid err, crashing X might be resated
[07:21] <intelikey> or related even
[07:22] <LetoAtreides> sorry dvorak, still learning :)
[07:24] <intelikey> <--- typo king.   no need to aplogiZe
[07:26] <jwallingford> ok im having issues with this. this is the link givin: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu, however this is for an old version of kubuntu. I have a newer one and mine looks nothing like what is on this page. I have 7.04
[07:26] <Daskreech> intelikey: I'm playing some songs from ogg123 but I can't share them with the world :(
[07:26] <intelikey> Daskreech i'm sorry.
[07:27] <intelikey> you wanting to streem them or export them or what ?
[07:29] <Daskreech> Just wanted to do that :)
[07:29] <Stratys> sup peeps
[07:29] <hitmanWilly> whats the deal with dvorak keyboards anyway? is it supposed to be faster or what?
[07:30] <Stratys> I have a question about DeVeDe
[07:30] <LetoAtreides> more natural layout
[07:30] <intelikey> jwallingford did you hit the 7.04 link on that page ?
[07:30] <jwallingford> i didnt see one
[07:30] <intelikey> it's there.
[07:30] <jwallingford> oh haha i found it
[07:31] <jwallingford> right up top where i wasnt looking
[07:31] <jwallingford> sorry for the dumb question
[07:32] <intelikey> jwallingford i'm not sure that will get you going tho.    if you need help with the repos.  check back in here.
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> jwallingford: don't worry about it, this is #kubuntu, we embrace dumb questions here :P
[07:32] <Nuked> heh hitmanWilly
[07:32] <intelikey> do we ?
[07:32] <intelikey> oh you mean like that one....  duh.
[07:32] <hitmanWilly> more so than any other linux channel i know
[07:32] <Daskreech> hitmanWilly: if they took a bath
[07:32] <Nuked> heres one hitmanWilly how do i turn off those darn kde sounds
[07:32] <Nuked> Daskreech: occasionallz
[07:32] <Nuked> z
[07:33] <Nuked> y
[07:33] <Nuked> depends on the phases of the mood
[07:33] <Nuked> n
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> Nuked: its in kcontrol, under sound sytem, just uncheck enable sound system
[07:33] <Nuked> sorrz
[07:33] <Nuked> you misunderstood
[07:33] <intelikey> no   it's system sounds.  not sound system.
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> meh...whatever :P
[07:34] <jwallingford> ok i see how to add links to repositories but what i am looking for is a list of repositories. I just want to be able to install the newest (non beta) releases of all software available
[07:34] <jwallingford> for instance i want codecs, and i would like a later version of thunderbird than 1.5
[07:34] <Nuked> I meant hitmanWilly that was supposed to be one of the "dumb" questions
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> Nuked: oh, duh...
[07:35] <Stratys> I am converting avi's to dvd with DeVeDe
[07:35] <Stratys> video works great
[07:35] <Stratys> but the sound is highly distorted
[07:35] <Stratys> any ideas?
[07:35] <hitmanWilly> jwallingford: you may want to check out the seveas repo....it seems to be pretty popular
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> !seveas | jwallingford
[07:36] <ubotu> jwallingford: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:36] <Nuked> hitmanWilly: which do you prefer from the GUI clients... konversation, or xchat (or other)
[07:36] <hitmanWilly> Nuked: kvirc when im in a gui
[07:36] <intelikey> jwallingford "would like a later version" may not be a realistic goal.  but there have been sever repos lists posted on the web.    basicly     deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ feisty main universe multiverse restricted        and repete for security and updates listings.
[07:37] <hitmanWilly> Nuked: irssi otherwise :)
[07:37] <intelikey> sever repos lists == several listings.
[07:37] <Nuked> be back in a bit
[07:37] <hitmanWilly> k
[07:38] <intelikey> !worksforme | jwallingford
[07:38] <ubotu> jwallingford: Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[07:39] <intelikey> Daskreech i thought that script was taboo in here ?
[07:39] <titanix88> hendaus: i'm back.
[07:39] <Daskreech> jwallingford: What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[07:39] <intelikey> feisty
[07:39] <Daskreech> intelikey: I think it was voodoo :)
[07:40] <intelikey> voodoo is taboo ?
[07:40] <Daskreech> thunderbird is 1.5 in feisty? That sucks
[07:40] <arun> hey people.. i want to format my hard drive completely.. it has windows xp installed on it right now, but i want to delete every thing on the drive.. clean it
[07:40] <Daskreech> !easysource | jwallingford
[07:40] <ubotu> jwallingford: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:40] <arun> can i format it by running a ubuntu live cd
[07:40] <arun> and formatting my c drive from konsole
[07:40] <Daskreech> Sure why not
[07:40] <arun> Daskreech: how do i do that? what command?
[07:40] <intelikey> arun yes you can.
[07:41] <intelikey> arun the install process will give an option to use the whole disk
[07:41] <Daskreech> qtparted
[07:41] <arun> intelikey: i dont want to install kubuntu on it, i just want to clean the hard drive
[07:41] <jwallingford> 7.04 Daskreech
[07:42] <Stratys> any help on my ??
[07:42] <premier_> hello, I'm having trouble with beryl... kdesktop seems to conflict with beryl
[07:42] <arun> can i run the live cd and delete everything on the hard drive through a konsole command?
[07:42] <Daskreech> arun: sure sudo fdisk
[07:42] <intelikey> arun dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/<your_hd>         maybe hda ?
[07:42] <arun> which one should i use? :)
[07:42] <intelikey> if you are really looking to wipe it clean    dd
[07:43] <arun> ok
[07:43] <pollyo> Doesn't fdisk simply clear the partition table?
[07:43] <intelikey> if you just want to redo the partition table   cfdisk
[07:43] <hitmanWilly> arun: mkfs is what i would reccommend, but that's just me
[07:43] <jwallingford> ok so is Ubuntu backports project all stable released software or non stable (beta) softwares?
[07:43] <intelikey> pollyo yes.
[07:43] <arun> once i wipe it clean, i can still boot from a cd right
[07:43] <Daskreech> !info mozilla-thunderbiird gutsy
[07:43] <hitmanWilly> arun: yes, should be able to
[07:43] <premier_> !beryl
[07:43] <ubotu> Package mozilla-thunderbiird does not exist in gutsy
[07:43] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[07:43] <arun> hitmanWilly: thanks.. what does mkfs do?
[07:43] <intelikey> arun should be able to.  if you can't there is something really screwy
[07:43] <premier_> !thunderbird
[07:43] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> arun: similar to the dos format cmd
[07:44] <Daskreech> premier_: asked in #beryl ?
[07:44] <arun> well, i am wiping it clean for a friend.. he's using a vaio, it seems like a strange machine
[07:44] <premier_> Daskreech: over and over again
[07:44] <intelikey> arun mkfs = make file system.      kinda like  format.com  in that other os
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> arun: they are
[07:44] <Daskreech> What? arun that kinda makes no sense :)
[07:44] <arun> he asked me to re-install windows for him, but apparently vaios dont boot from cds (unless it's from the manufacturer)
[07:44] <Daskreech> premier_: and #ubuntu-effects though it's the same folks :)
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> Daskreech: vaio's are weird like that
[07:45] <arun> arun: what he told me is, instead of booting from the cd directly, first clean the hard disk and then try booting
[07:45] <arun> so i want to clean it first
[07:45] <Daskreech> arun: ha ha :) How are you going to use the live CD then ?
[07:45] <arun> arun: according to him, if there's no OS installed, it boots from the live cd
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> im just surprised they don't complete with a preinstalled rootkit :P
[07:45] <arun> even though CDs are first in the boot swquence
[07:46] <Daskreech> arun: try pressing F11 or F12 at the bboot up sequence
[07:46] <arun> Daskreech: i did, nothing works
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> s/complete/come
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> arun: del maybe?
[07:46] <intelikey> hitmanWilly they do come with a root kit installed don't they ?
[07:47] <hitmanWilly> i don't know, but it wouldn't surprise me
[07:47] <Daskreech> intelikey: only if you took the optional music
[07:47] <LetoAtreides> Hrmmm doing more research, its not all STD:: types, just string and a couple others because cout and friends work fine
[07:47] <intelikey> oh
[07:47] <arun> ok i'm trying the live cd now, and your command intelikey
[07:47] <arun> here goes nothing :)
[07:47] <Stratys> does anyone know a good program to convert avi to dvd?
[07:47] <premier_> Daskreech: I'm running out of ideas... none of the places I usually go for help are working
[07:47] <premier_> Daskreech: should I file a bug report or something?
[07:48] <Daskreech> premier_: what does the --replace commands give you ?
[07:48] <titanix88> arun: F8 works for me.
[07:48] <Daskreech> or the beryl-manager ?
[07:48] <premier_>  Daskreech: it doesn't seem to change anything
[07:48] <premier_> Daskreech: beryl-manager starts automatically when I boot
[07:48] <premier_> Daskreech: but it doesn't start beryl for some reason
[07:48] <Daskreech> premier_: it has a menu option to jump to optional WM
[07:49] <Daskreech> premier_: what is it set to?
[07:49] <titanix88> premier_: maybe not configured Xgl.
[07:49] <LetoAtreides> This code (basic hello world) will give me that err btw
[07:49] <LetoAtreides> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23684/
[07:49] <premier_> Daskreech: I wasn't running for some reason... anyway, its set to kwine
[07:50] <arun> i'm planning to buy a macbook soon.. do you guys think it's a good idea
[07:50] <premier_> titanix88: how can I be sure?  I know I'm running Xgl
[07:50] <LetoAtreides> if anyone on 7.0.4  cares to compile it
[07:50] <premier_> whats the linux support for intel based macs?  Have they fixed it yet?
[07:50] <Daskreech> premier_: switch it to beryl and see what it does
[07:51] <LetoAtreides> intelikey: look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23684/ it wont compile
[07:51] <premier_> Daskreech: well, it refreshes something, but nothing comes of it... I'm still in kwin
[07:51] <intelikey> yeah just did.
[07:51] <arun> the vaio loaded the kubuntu live cd, but didnt boot the windows cd
[07:51] <titanix88> premier_ start beryl from cmd line.
[07:51] <arun> weird
[07:52] <Daskreech> Is the windows Cd bootable?
[07:52] <intelikey> LetoAtreides and you do have "build-essential" installed.   just dubble checking...
[07:52] <LetoAtreides> intelikey: if you comment out the string part and still use the STD::cout, it will compile fine
[07:52] <LetoAtreides> yes
[07:52] <titanix88> arun: linux got better support for hardware :) !
[07:52] <intelikey> hmmmm
[07:53] <LetoAtreides> it finds the lib that std is in, but that lib is missing vital parts
[07:53] <premier_> titanix88: it always says "beryl: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0"
[07:53] <arun> Daskreech: it is
[07:54] <premier_> titanix88: it also breaks something... I'm not able to use any window after typing "beryl" into the command line... I have to reload kde from the beryl manager icon
[07:54] <intelikey> LetoAtreides file a bug !
[07:54] <intelikey> !bug
[07:54] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[07:55] <LetoAtreides> intelikey: I will, but it means until its fixed I can use this
[07:55] <intelikey> LetoAtreides i know,
[07:55] <LetoAtreides> and all my end users cant use my software
[07:55] <intelikey> LetoAtreides i can't change that tho.
[07:55] <LetoAtreides> yeah I know...
[07:56] <premier_> hey, when I select text in the konsole, recently its been making the selected portion black-on-black... I use white on black text in konsole
[07:57] <titanix88> premier_:settings->schema
[07:57] <intelikey> LetoAtreides what was that dl url again ?  and is the source there ?
[07:58] <LetoAtreides> no source, but the dl url is www.rpgds.com
[07:58] <intelikey> premier_ that can be set in the konsole menu in two places in settings.
[07:58] <LetoAtreides> I know its linked to that src I pasted not compiling
[07:59] <intelikey> either a schema or specifically setting that colour.
[07:59] <arun> intelikey: i tried your method, it says directory /dev/zero/ does not exist
[07:59] <intelikey> LetoAtreides k.
[08:00] <intelikey> arun i didn't say /dev/zero/     dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda     (assuming hda)
[08:00] <arun> ah ok
[08:00] <arun> sorry
[08:00] <arun> added the slash by mistake
[08:01] <hitmanWilly> ok, see y'all later...sleep now, work tommorrow
[08:01] <arun> intelikey: it says permission denied
[08:02] <LetoAtreides> intelikey: wouldnt you know it, the bug system is offline right now
[08:02] <LetoAtreides> lol its back, that was scary
[08:03] <intelikey> that command will write zeros until the "of=" is full.   i.e. the whole disk will be over writen with "goose eggs"   MBR and all.       and nothing will let you write to the hd without   "root" permissions.  i.e.  sudo command....
[08:03] <intelikey> @ arun  ^
[08:04] <intelikey> sorry i'm lagging right now. and my posts may seem incohearant for a little while.
[08:05] <arun> so i should sudo dd ?
[08:06] <arun> ok did that
[08:06] <arun> something happened
[08:06] <arun> xxxx records in
[08:06] <arun> xxxxx records out
[08:06] <arun> i'm assuming that was supposed to happen?
[08:07] <LetoAtreides> intelikey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/118338
[08:07] <intelikey> probably too quick.  arun.  what was the number ?
[08:07] <intelikey> LetoAtreides k.
[08:07] <parepakisslang> hello. is pidgin already available on synaptic/apt? i want to replace gaim w/o hassles.
[08:08] <intelikey> LetoAtreides and thank you for the report there.
[08:08] <intelikey> !find pidgin
[08:08] <ubotu> Package/file pidgin does not exist in feisty
[08:09] <LetoAtreides> Gonna install a different Linux, I hope this gets fixed soon!
[08:09] <parepakisslang> oic. thanks ubotu and intelikey
[08:09] <arun> 1033449+0 records in and out
[08:09] <arun> intelikey ^
[08:10] <intelikey> LetoAtreides me too.
[08:10] <intelikey> LetoAtreides and good luck with the new distro/version.
[08:10] <Daskreech> !info pidgin gutsy
[08:10] <ubotu> pidgin: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+dfsg.1-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 1766 kB, installed size 4972 kB
[08:10] <intelikey> arun then that should be about right.   small disk ?
[08:11] <arun> 30gb i think
[08:11] <|lostbyte|> !info graphics.h
[08:11] <ubotu> Package graphics.h does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[08:11] <Daskreech> |lostbyte|: Hmm?
[08:11] <arun> intelikey: so it's wiped clean?
[08:12] <|lostbyte|> Daisuke_Ido, i want to know why graphics.h is missing from my includes..
[08:12] <intelikey> arun that was only about   504m
[08:12] <intelikey> arun you didn't add a number on the /dev/hda   did you ?
[08:12] <arun> intelikey: so what do i do then
[08:12] <arun> intelikey: nope
[08:12] <intelikey> hmmmm.
[08:12] <buti> hi
[08:13] <intelikey> well you can run "sudo cfdisk " now and see what it does.  arun
[08:13] <arun> intelikey: ok hold on
[08:14] <arun> intelikey: fatal error, cannot get disk size
[08:14] <buti> ata has changed from kernel 2.6.20-15 to 2.6.20-16
[08:14] <intelikey> arun if it finds partitions you didn't blank it. (stating the obvious)
[08:14] <buti> now my noteboook won't wake up from standby
[08:15] <arun> intelikey: it returns a 'FATAL ERROR: cannot get disk size'
[08:15] <buti> my disk was detected as sda on 2.6.20-15, now it's back to hda.
[08:15] <intelikey> arun mmmm   add the device node.      sudo cfdisk /dev/<disk>      i assumed hda
[08:15] <buti> can someone help me fix this?
[08:15] <arun> ok
[08:16] <intelikey> buti fix ?   what do you want it to be ?
[08:16] <arun> intelikey: same
[08:16] <Daskreech> !find graphics.h
[08:16] <buti> intelikey: i want it to go back to sda. the pata driver works much better
[08:16] <ubotu> File graphics.h found in liballegro4.2-dev, libhippocanvas-dev, libmpich-mpd1.0-dev, libmpich-shmem1.0-dev, libmpich1.0-dev (and 5 others)
[08:17] <buti> intelikey: at least it makes my laptop wake up
[08:17] <intelikey> arun what does    sudo fdisk -l     tell us ?
[08:17] <Stratys> anyone know why I get shitty audio when i use DeVeDe for my encoding?
[08:18] <intelikey> buti ok you need to enable scsi emulation for all hd's    i think that can be done in the initramfs.img   but you need to google it.
[08:18] <Daskreech> !language | Stratys
[08:18] <ubotu> Stratys: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:18] <buti> intelikey: ok, that's a hint, thanks
[08:18] <intelikey> buti knoppix is well known for using scsi emulation    you can check what they do...
[08:19] <Stratys> sorry bout that but at least someone or thing acknowledged me
[08:19] <buti> intelikey: interestingly ubuntu kernel 2.6.20-15 did use scsi. i'll first check what they did ;-)
[08:20] <intelikey> buti yes they did.  i think it has caused more problems than it fixed though.
[08:20] <buti> intelikey: so just for me it's a regression
[08:20] <Daskreech> What's DevDe?
[08:21] <intelikey> yeah
[08:21] <Stratys> it is an encoder program
[08:21] <buti> intelikey: if it's hda, then there is a patch for my laptop on launchpad, that fixes wake-up by reseting ide in the ide driver
[08:21] <Stratys> changing avi's to mpg or dvd's
[08:21] <intelikey> !info devede
[08:21] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.9-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 449 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[08:23] <intelikey> buti cool.  and you won't need scsi emulation with that...
[08:23] <arun> intelikey: could i run the kubuntu installer get to the part about formatting everything and then exit before installing kubuntu
[08:23] <buti> no
[08:23] <buti> intelikey: but it didn't find its way into the kernel
[08:23] <buti> intelikey: i put it up quite some time ago
[08:23] <pawitp> Can I use kdevelop for php programming or there is a better ide?
[08:24] <intelikey> arun you can.  but i'm not sure it will format to vfat  or ntfs arun
[08:24] <LetoAtreides> pawitp: bsuefish or something like that
[08:24] <buti> intelikey: maybe it isn't pretty... i'm not a real kernel hacker :-p
[08:24] <LetoAtreides> blue*
[08:24] <pawitp> !info bluefish
[08:24] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.7-1 (feisty), package size 1570 kB, installed size 6724 kB
[08:24] <pawitp> 1. That's Gtk+, 2. It's html
[08:25] <LetoAtreides> I used it for php too, its got syntax hilite
[08:25] <LetoAtreides> whats wrong with GTK (besides its ugly) ?
[08:25] <pawitp> LetoAtrides: Ugly
[08:25] <intelikey> kate has syntax highlighting
[08:25] <pawitp> intelikey: Then kdevelop should too
[08:25] <dregorth> is kdevelop good for python programming or is there a better one? :/
[08:25] <intelikey> vim has syntax highlighting
[08:26] <LetoAtreides> kate uses sessions ugg
[08:26] <Daskreech> !info quanta
[08:26] <ubotu> quanta: web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2382 kB, installed size 5728 kB
[08:26] <pawitp> You can write anything with kdevelop then
[08:26] <intelikey> !kdevelop
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdevelop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <intelikey> !info kdevelop
[08:26] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.4.0-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 8594 kB, installed size 26204 kB
[08:26] <Daskreech> !IDE
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <Daskreech> !develop
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about develop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:26] <Daskreech> !development
[08:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about development - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:27] <pawitp> !find develop
[08:27] <ubotu> Found: developers-reference, developers-reference-fr, egroupware-developer-tools, firefox-webdeveloper, harden-development (and 18 others)
[08:27] <LetoAtreides> yeah, but its setup as  C++ ide, you can use it for project management though
[08:27] <intelikey> strick three your out Daskreech
[08:27] <Daskreech> intelikey: there is one that list out webdev IDEs
[08:28] <jussi01> !eclipse
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <LetoAtreides> ewww
[08:28] <jussi01> !info eclipse
[08:28] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.2-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 124 kB, installed size 412 kB
[08:28] <intelikey> !html
[08:28] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[08:28] <intelikey> Daskreech that one ?
[08:28] <LetoAtreides> nvu is BAD for php
[08:28] <Daskreech> Could have sworn it had kdevelop in there
[08:28] <dregorth> !python
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about python - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <Mach3>  how can i (or can i) access files on a second harddrive (ntfs) in k/ubuntu.. for example, play media files from my windows drive?
[08:29] <LetoAtreides> it has a habit of re arranging your code and deleting what it doesnt like
[08:29] <pawitp> Mach3: look in media:/
[08:29] <intelikey> Daskreech it probably did.  "someone" keeps shortening the infonodes...
[08:29] <Mach3> pawitp: i only see cdrom and floppy
[08:29] <intelikey> !ntfs | Mach3
[08:29] <ubotu> Mach3: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:30] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g | Mach3
[08:30] <ubotu> Mach3: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[08:30] <pawitp> I can't actually remember since the last time I access ntfs was ages ago
[08:30] <arun> intelikey: i think drive name is sda1
[08:31] <arun> tried using dd on that, is taking time which means it;s working i think
[08:31] <intelikey> right there is a classic example of the infonode no longer being affective.  ^   the !ntfs says see !ntfs-3g   but -3g is carbon copy...
[08:31] <intelikey> arun not sda1.   sda  would be the drive.
[08:32] <intelikey> arun sda1 would be the first partition on the drive.
[08:32] <arun> intelikey: oh
[08:32] <Daskreech> intelikey: like ! mount
[08:32] <arun> i gave the command for sda1
[08:32] <arun> is that a big problem
[08:32] <intelikey> no.
[08:32] <Daskreech> he made a partition ?
[08:32] <intelikey> just redo it with sda.
[08:33] <intelikey> Daskreech he blanked hda  not sda
[08:33] <Daskreech> ah
[08:33] <intelikey> i don't know why it found 500m of disk space at hda .....
[08:34] <intelikey> that is probably where the rootkit lived
[08:34] <skiff> hey when I try to add my LAN printer I get the following msg saying that port 631 will be opened and cupsys user (system user, not created by me) might be exploitable for an attack, how do I prevent that from happening and how do I secure all the other system users ?
[08:34] <arun> intelikey: so what if i blanked the rootkit?
[08:35] <arun> wht happens now
[08:35] <intelikey> arun hopefully you have a liberated system...  :)        root kit is eval
[08:36] <intelikey> like  "trusted computing group"
[08:36] <arun> haha nice
[08:36] <Daskreech> skiff: it's just opening a port
[08:37] <Daskreech> skiff: By default ubuntu has no ports opened so It's letting you know one is open now
[08:37] <skiff> Daskreech, ok and if that port is open, how can one gain access to anything?
[08:37] <Daskreech> intelikey: could just be a system partition
[08:37] <arun> intelikey: doing it with sda now
[08:37] <arun> how much time does it tkae
[08:37] <skiff> Daskreech, only if they know root or user passwords correct?
[08:37] <Daskreech> skiff: your printer can gain access
[08:37] <Daskreech> skiff: right
[08:38] <Daskreech> skiff: You can see it by going to localhost:631
[08:38] <intelikey> arun mmm 30g about 10 minutes maybe
[08:38] <Daskreech> It runs a little website
[08:38] <intelikey> or longer...
[08:38] <skiff> Daskreech, thanks, how can I see other open ports ?
[08:38] <arun> intelikey: ok cool, thank you so much
[08:39] <intelikey> arun not at all...
[08:39] <Daskreech> skiff: hmm I think there is an easy gui way but the way I use is nmap
[08:39] <tahsin> HOw do i install beryl themes ?
[08:39] <intelikey> skiff nmapfe
[08:40] <intelikey> Daskreech nmapfe ?
[08:41] <Daskreech> sure why not :)
[08:41] <tahsin> intelikey: how do i install beryl themes ?
[08:41] <Daskreech> tahsin: ask in #ubuntu-effects
[08:41] <intelikey> !beryl > tahsin
[08:41] <skiff> Daskreech and intelikey thank you
[08:41] <intelikey> sorry i don't use nor support beryl
[08:42] <Nathan> does anyone know why my spell check in opn office dosent work?
[08:42] <Daskreech> Nathan: is it on?
[08:43] <skiff> btw whats the difference btwn nmap and nmapfe?
[08:43] <Nathan> yes
[08:43] <tahsin> intelikey: how do i install KBFX ?
[08:43] <intelikey> skiff you should see the reaction when i go into ##windows and ask what a firewall is and what does anti-virus mean    lol
[08:43] <Daskreech> !info nmapfe
[08:43] <ubotu> nmapfe: The Network Mapper Front End. In component universe, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 104 kB, installed size 228 kB
[08:43] <skiff> intelikey, :)
[08:43] <skiff> !info nmap
[08:43] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.20-1 (feisty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2644 kB
[08:44] <intelikey> tahsin i don't know where did you find it ?
[08:44] <tahsin> intelikey: Kbfx themes in kde-look.org
[08:44] <intelikey> tahsin it's not in the standard repos.
[08:44] <intelikey> oh wait yes it is.
[08:45] <intelikey> sudo apt-get install kbfx kubuntu-artwork-kbfx
[08:45] <tahsin> thanks
[08:45] <intelikey> if you want the artwork also....
[08:45] <intelikey> else you can drop that part.
[08:45] <tahsin> thanks
[08:45] <intelikey> np
[08:46] <tahsin> intelikey: why is it in the lost & found section ?
[08:46] <intelikey> explain ?
[08:47] <tahsin> intelikey: nothing let me try it
[08:47] <pawitp> I really need more screen estate
[08:48] <intelikey> Daskreech you'll think i'm crazy (as if you didn't already)  but i read the package list + description one time....    some of it i can remember.
[08:49] <Daskreech> Yeah I dumped it to a text file and went through it
[08:49] <intelikey> huge aint it!
[08:50] <Daskreech> Yeah I had to delete it to get space
[08:50] <intelikey> :)
[08:51] <intelikey> on a system running on floppy disks maybe...
[08:51] <Daskreech> No on a system that had a huge number of test ISOs on it
[08:52] <Nathan> :S no matter how i spell a word spell check never picks it up as wrong
[08:52] <tahsin> intelikey: im trying to change the start button with kbfx but its not changeing
[08:52] <intelikey> oh.   well i consider a text file to be huge when -h starts listing m in place of k
[08:53] <intelikey> tahsin never seen it.   if you can't post me an error message i can't even guess at what to do...    restarting X might help....
[08:53] <Nathan> anyone know how to put spellchek on
[08:54] <tahsin> intelikey: thanks anyways i restarted X but without luck
[08:54] <intelikey> on what Nathan ?
[08:54] <arun> anyone here use a mac?
[08:54] <Nathan> openword
[08:54] <Nathan> openoffice.org word
[08:55] <intelikey> Nathan hmmm no.  sorry.  but i would search through it's menus  i'm pretty sure it's in the settings
[08:55] <Nathan> i did
[08:55] <Nathan> it dosent work
[08:55] <Daskreech> Nathan: ask in #openoffice.org-users
[08:55] <Nathan> i thought linux was going to work better than windows......
[08:55] <skiff> Daskreech, well it opened 631 automatically, but it doesnt close it if I uncheck the option, how can i clsoe it manually?
[08:55] <Daskreech> Yes it's a really long chan name I know
[08:56] <Daskreech> skiff: probably shut down cups
[08:56] <Nathan> Daskreech: no one is there
[08:56] <pawitp> Daskreech: Shutdown cups and you can't print then
[08:56] <Daskreech> Nathan: ask in #openoffice.org :-)
[08:56] <skiff> Daskreech, how do I do that lol sorry for silly questions
[08:56] <Daskreech> pawitp: hey he asked :)
[08:57] <Daskreech> skiff: again there is probably an easy GUI way
[08:57] <Nathan> Daskreech: thanks
[08:57] <Daskreech> skiff: You can type sudo /etc/init.d/cups stop
[08:57] <skiff> Daskreech, thanks
[08:57] <intelikey> cupsys ^
[08:57] <Daskreech> skiff: You can type sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys stop
[08:57] <Daskreech> yeah just picked up on that too
[08:59] <Daskreech> intelikey: Fun fact in System Settings you can start the printer server you can restart it but you can't stop it
[08:59] <intelikey> :)
[09:00] <pawitp> Usability bug?
[09:00] <intelikey> yes i remember that.   haven't used it a long time.  foomatic database is hosed in dapper so i can't install a printer.
[09:00] <Daskreech> pawitp: No that's a Functional bug :)
[09:00] <pawitp> I hate bug report system
[09:00] <Tm_Konvi> plop
[09:01] <intelikey> control bug.
[09:01] <arun> intelikey: not cleaned the drive yt
[09:01] <arun> intelikey: is it taking more time coz it's a live cd
[09:01] <arun> btw, sda1 + sda2 = 90GB
[09:01] <Daskreech> arun: yes but only by like 2 seconds
[09:02] <arun> but there's nothing on sda2
[09:02] <intelikey> if you are wiping sda  there is no more sda#  they are all gone.  and the 90g is the size of the disk.   so 30 minutes maybe.
[09:04] <Nathan> there is no one in the openoffice channel
[09:05] <intelikey> no one in a channel but you means probably a typo in the name.
[09:05] <Nathan> intelikey: there are people
[09:05] <Nathan> they dont talk
[09:06] <intelikey> oh.
[09:07] <Nathan> huh
[09:07] <Nathan> ....
[09:07] <Nathan> what are u on about mate?
[09:07] <intelikey> nothing   it was just a gouge.
[09:07] <Daskreech> Ha ha :-)
[09:08] <Daskreech> Nathan: I actually remember hearing this complaint before and I know it was something stupid
[09:08] <Nathan> k
[09:08] <Nathan> well its not stupid by my part
[09:09] <dogatemycomputer> what's the complaint?  I was away from the keyboard trying to fix a broken windows machine.
[09:09] <Nathan> unless they have a secret options part seperate from the normal options
[09:09] <Daskreech> Nathan: no it's was a setting that seemed to be named really badly I think
[09:09] <Nathan> my spellcheck dosent work
[09:09] <Nathan> Daskreech:k i'll keep looking
[09:10] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: in open office? or somewhere else?
[09:10] <intelikey> !spell
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about spell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer yes
[09:10] <Daskreech> dogatemycomputer: open office
[09:10] <Nathan> yeah openoffice
[09:10] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: there is something else you need to install.
[09:11] <Nathan> k
[09:11] <Nathan> whats that?
[09:11] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: I just fixed mine at home.. i'm on a newly built linux box so let me fix it on here ;)
[09:11] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: then i'll pass along the knowledge.
[09:11] <Nathan> lol k thanks
[09:11] <intelikey> myspell ?  aspell ?   ispell ?    pspell ?
[09:11] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: that sounds right.. one of those..
[09:11] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: I fixed it by accident last time.
[09:11] <intelikey> you smell i smell we smell they smell  ?
[09:11] <Daskreech> pspell :)
[09:12] <Daskreech> As a total aside I think I'm going to use kmymoney to do my accounting from now on
[09:12] <Daskreech>  it looks pretty good
[09:12] <Daskreech> as in visually
[09:12] <Daskreech>  but I get that Krecipe vibe from it
[09:12] <Daskreech> - GHNS
[09:12] <intelikey> !info kmymoney
[09:12] <ubotu> Package kmymoney does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[09:13] <Daskreech> !info kmymoney2
[09:13] <ubotu> kmymoney2: personal finance manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.5-1build1 (feisty), package size 6680 kB, installed size 13200 kB
[09:13] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: okay.. for some reason its working fine on this installation so I suspect the problem is with the Kubuntu installation of OOO.
[09:13] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: in that case.. I have a solution that I know works..
[09:13] <Nathan> k
[09:13] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: do you know how to uninstall OpenOffice using Adept?
[09:13] <Nathan> yeah
[09:14] <Nathan> i am on dial-up tho
[09:14] <Nathan> will i need to download it?
[09:14] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/23/installing-using-an-rpm-file/
[09:14] <intelikey> Daskreech chapter 11    hmmm gov artical ?
[09:14] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: yeah.. the installation that comes with Kubuntu is screwed up.  You need to unintall it then download OpenOffice and install directly from the source.
[09:14] <Daskreech> :-)
[09:15] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: honestly.. if its important then i'll be happy to send you a CD assuming your domestic?
[09:15] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: where do you live?
[09:15] <Nathan> nah its ok
[09:15] <Nathan> i live in perth
[09:15] <Nathan> australia
[09:15] <Nathan> it'll be too late then
[09:15] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: i'm sorry dude..
[09:15] <dogatemycomputer> hold on though.. let me see if I can't find another solution.
[09:16] <arun> intelikey: still goin on
[09:16] <arun> abt 20 minutes now
[09:16] <Daskreech> dogatemycomputer: take a look on the forums
[09:17] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: how about this one?  not sure if its a fix but you could try it:
[09:17] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: sudo apt-get install myspell-en-us
[09:17] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: of course replace "myspell-en-us" with your appropriate language dictionary.. but you get the point..
[09:19] <Nathan> what is the uk one?
[09:19] <Nathan> or australian one
[09:19] <dogatemycomputer> en-au
[09:19] <dogatemycomputer> myspell-en-au
[09:20] <miodek> Hi all1
[09:21] <Daskreech> yoyo
[09:21] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: how fast (or slow) is your dialup connection?
[09:22] <Nathan> very slow
[09:22] <Nathan> lol
[09:22] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: 28k?
[09:22] <intelikey> arun arun count will be in the  "188743680" range.
[09:22] <Nathan> yeah
[09:22] <Red_Tear> hey ppl... got a problem, i cant play Movies from DVD... i think there is just some package missing or so but i dont know what
[09:22] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: if you say anything slower then i'll just suggest suicide by screwdriver..
[09:22] <intelikey> !dvd
[09:22] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[09:22] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: in that case it should take you about 5 mins to download it.. so that's not horrible..
[09:23] <Red_Tear> thanks
[09:23] <Nathan> k
[09:23] <Nathan> it says 37meg tho
[09:23] <Nathan> that will take 5 hours
[09:23] <intelikey> that will take at least 5
[09:24] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: ahhh.. the dependencies..
[09:24] <intelikey> at least apt does continue.
[09:24] <Nathan> its working now
[09:24] <Daskreech> Nathan: what is it downloading?
[09:24] <Nathan> there was no au definitoion
[09:24] <dogatemycomputer> Daskreech: myspell-en-au
[09:24] <Nathan> yeah
[09:25] <Nathan> thanks guys
[09:25] <intelikey> well there you go.  locales failed you....  it should have depended on that if that's your locales
[09:25] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: no worries.. just glad to see you've left the evil empire..
[09:26] <intelikey> queensland ?
[09:26] <intelikey> oh.   never mind.
[09:26] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: does it automatically grab the correct lang dictionary when you install kubuntu?
[09:26] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: hahahhahahahaha
[09:26] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: Seattle.
[09:26] <Nathan> dogatemycomputer:i odnt think it does
[09:26] <Nathan> it never got au for me
[09:27] <Nathan> just us i tink
[09:27] <pablo__> :)
[09:27] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer after you choose your locale in the setup it's supposed to depend on the propper i18's and such  yes.
[09:28] <Nathan> hmm its still not 100%
[09:29] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: well.. if he's on dialup then i would be suprised if it just went out and tried downloading 100+MB..
[09:29] <Nathan> it says that jail is correct
[09:29] <Nathan> when its goal here
[09:29] <Nathan> or something
[09:29] <Daskreech> :-)
[09:29] <dogatemycomputer> Nathan: Patience! <--obi-wan
[09:30] <Nathan> lol
[09:30] <Daskreech> dogatemycomputer: can he wget just the lang deb ?
[09:30] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer don't be surprised.  it does.   i can say   apt-get blah and it will say things like  350 mb of archives need to be installed...
[09:30] <Nathan> its working now
[09:30] <Solarus> hey guys
[09:30] <Solarus> is there any better irc clients for windows vista other than mirc?
[09:30] <Nathan> just it wont seperate whats right in au from whats right in us
[09:31] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: that doesn't suprise me.. but if he's never TOLD it to download the dictionary.. then would it just go get it automatically?
[09:31] <dogatemycomputer> Solarus: linux
[09:31] <dogatemycomputer> Solarus: in all seriousness though.. I liked virc back in the day.. but I don't know if its even still available.
[09:32] <MaTiAz> I moved to HydraIRC from mirc
[09:32] <dogatemycomputer> Solarus: there is no good irc client for windows though..
[09:32] <MaTiAz> And then I went over to irssi via SSH :)
[09:32] <Nathan> oh its ok now
[09:32] <Nathan> lol
[09:32] <dogatemycomputer> MaTiAz: yeah.. that's what I did..
[09:32] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer yes if he installs oo (which he did) then it depends on myspell (which it did) and that should depend on the proper locale dict (which it didn't)   so there is a packaging issue there.
[09:32] <arun> intelikey: when is it going to show the count! :)
[09:33] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: but he didn't?  it just came with the installation of kubuntu..
[09:33] <intelikey> arun heh  oh  at the end.
[09:33] <Daskreech> Bloody hell!
[09:33] <arun> intelikey: the end seems nowhere in sight
[09:33] <Daskreech> It's raining all out outside
[09:33] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer openoffice comes with kubuntu ?   sense when ?
[09:33] <arun> it doesn't even show you % done
[09:33] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: i don't know.. 7.04 live CD?
[09:34] <jinny> hello!
[09:34] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: I have to uninstall OpenOffice so I can download and reinstasll it from openoffice.org.
[09:34] <jinny> I have a question
[09:34] <jinny> I want to play some games on Linux but they don't work on Linux..
[09:35] <intelikey> arun you can detect disk activity    no?     it will finish...   give it time.  you are blanking the whole 90 g   remember.  not just deleting files but writing zeros to every sector.
[09:35] <jinny> how can I play those games for Win on linux?
[09:36] <intelikey> arun that is not only a good security and safty measure it's also a very affective disk test, as well as virus removal.
[09:37] <venca> ahoj :) Is there sb who could give me an advice? Where can I edit configuration for system start? For example graphic/text mode etc ....
[09:37] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer did you install from "ubuntu" live  or "kubuntu" live ?
[09:37] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: kubuntu live.. and yes.. it does include Kubuntu's version of openoffice..
[09:38] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: it looks like its a slightly modified version.. probably some artwork changes somewhere..
[09:38] <intelikey> venca man update-rc.d
[09:38] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: check distrowatch.. it appears to have been inclueded as far back as Hoary..
[09:38] <venca> intelikey thanks
[09:39] <crdlb> anthony broke off from the other servers
[09:39] <intelikey> dogatemycomputer no.  i have hoary and dapper.   don't think i've ever seen oo tho
[09:39] <dogatemycomputer> !wine | jinny
[09:39] <ubotu> jinny: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:39] <pawitp> Did a netsplit/netjoin just happened?
[09:39] <Daskreech> Yeah
[09:39] <intelikey> and that net split is likely to get my connection...
[09:40] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: well.. it was on this laptop that I installed using the live CD from kubuntu.com .. and it was included on every other installation that i've done recently..
[09:40] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kubuntu
[09:40] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: check under "features" section..
[09:40] <jinny> yeah I already tried with wine..
[09:41] <jinny> ok i will find more ways by myself!:)
[09:41] <jinny> Thanks a lot!!!!!
[09:41] <jinny> have a nice day!
[09:42] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: stll there?
[09:42] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: i'm sorry..  what exactly were you trying to play under linux?
[09:43] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: there are a couple other options if Wine is too difficult.. you can try Crossover for Linux.. (www.codeweavers.com) or cedega (www.cedega.com).. I would check COdeWeaver's first..
[09:45] <dogatemycomputer> intelikey: here is another link: http://www.linux.com/print.pl?sid=05/10/10/204207
[09:45] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: does that help?
[09:45] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: if you could tell us what you're trying to do/play then we can probably offer more assistance.
[09:45] <miodek> I insttall Kubuntu a few days ago first time and it's extra ;]  but I have small problem, when I use the Amarok and i want to turn of the system is crashed?? why? Please help me ;]  Sorry of my English ;] 
[09:46] <dsmith> is there a way to print a listing of all the programs installed in linux?
[09:46] <Darkkish> so
[09:46] <Darkkish> i'm having some trouble
[09:46] <Darkkish> installing linux from the live CD
[09:46] <Darkkish> that i've never had before
[09:47] <Darkkish> the partitioning system seems to be new and different
[09:47] <Daskreech> yay!!
[09:47] <Daskreech>  rain is stopping
[09:47] <Darkkish> It won't let me repartition my hda1
[09:47] <Daskreech>  Lightning is picking up though
[09:47] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: the guided setup fails when you attempt the installation?
[09:47] <Daskreech> miodek: If you turn off the computer it crashes?
[09:47] <miodek> yes
[09:47] <Daskreech> dsmith: Yeah there is
[09:47] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: manual partition editing, says it fails when i try to resize my main partition
[09:48] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: are you using qtparted or gparted?
[09:48] <dsmith> I am migating to fiesty
[09:48] <Daskreech> miodek: are you on a laptop?
[09:48] <miodek> no, in desktop...
[09:48] <Daskreech> dsmith: dpkg -l > fileyouwanttokeep
[09:48] <Daskreech> dsmith: trust me if something is missing you will know :)
[09:48] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: whatever is IN the install process
[09:48] <dsmith> hahah
[09:48] <Daskreech> miodek: how often does this happen
[09:49] <miodek> everything is ok, only that crashes..
[09:49] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: i've seen this before and its usually caused by the partition still being mounted when you try to resize it.  You should be able to right click on the device and unmount it.. (i'm a noob so i'm only taking a shot in the dark - someone else may be able to better help)
[09:49] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: does that make any sense to you?
[09:49] <Daskreech> dsmith: took me a month but suddenly I was all Where is Krecipe?
[09:49] <Daskreech> or ... why isn't my basket icon there?
[09:49] <Daskreech> RIP basKet :(
[09:49] <miodek> everytime when i use the amarok
[09:49] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: yeah but it's not mounted, i checked
[09:50] <Daskreech> miodek: What are you listening to in Amarok?
[09:50] <Daskreech> miodek: your music or a radio station ?
[09:50] <miodek> if i want close down system, then kubuntu go to the konsole
[09:50] <miodek> only music
[09:50] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: hmmmm... what kind of partition are you trying to resize?  does it give you any errors or anything?
[09:50] <Darkkish> I'm unframilliar and semi scared of this partition editor
[09:51] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: its just scary because its new.. after you've used it a couple of times (assuming you choose too for various reasons) then you'll find its pretty straight-forward.
[09:51] <Daskreech> miodek: does it make a difference if you close Amarok first?
[09:51] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: it won't make any changes until you hit apply.. and at that point it usually prompts you before doing anything.
[09:51] <Daskreech> Or once you have opened amarok then shut down does not work?
[09:52] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: actually partitioning happens before you hit apply in the new partitioner
[09:52] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: lol
[09:52] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: I'm practicing on a different drive
[09:52] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: what partitioner are you using?
[09:52] <miodek> Daskreech: no, i close the amarok firs but it's not work
[09:52] <jinny> Hi thanks all of them who r trying to help me:)
[09:52] <Daskreech> Hmm
[09:52] <dsmith> Daskreech: Example, "sudo dpkg -l > stellarium" the output does not say anything
[09:52] <jinny> Actually I am a girl.:)
[09:53] <Daskreech> dsmith: You should have a file called stellarium now
[09:53] <jinny> So the games I'd like to play are quite girly..==
[09:53] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: i don't know, it's the one BUILT INTO the live-cd installer
[09:53] <dsmith> desktop?
[09:53] <miodek> Daskrech: i have Kubuntu 7.04 if this make help ;] 
[09:53] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: does it say "gparted" or "qparted" at the top?
[09:53] <Daskreech> jinny: barbie seahorse?
[09:53] <dsmith> Daskreech: thats what I thought but cannot find it
[09:54] <jinny> nope but..hehe
[09:54] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: it says "Install"
[09:54] <Daskreech> miodek: I'm sorry but I have to go
[09:54] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: ohhhh.. you're trying to do it during the installation process.  cancel the installation ..
[09:54] <Daskreech> ask and I'm sure someone will try to help
[09:54] <miodek> ok, thank you...
[09:54] <Daskreech> miodek: What language do you speak?
[09:54] <jinny> just some tycoons and arcade games
[09:54] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer:  i've been telling you that
[09:54] <jinny> like the apprentice
[09:54] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: after you boot the live CD there is an app called "gparted" in one of the menus.. that's the one you want to use.
[09:54] <miodek> Polish
[09:54] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: k thanks
[09:54] <miodek> ;] 
[09:55] <Daskreech> jinny: Oooh there is a Open transport Tycoon game
[09:55] <miodek> my Englis is terible ;] 
[09:55] <Daskreech> I should try it out
[09:55] <Daskreech> !pl
[09:55] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:55] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: once you have your partitions setup the way you want them..  then you proceed to the intallation..
[09:55] <jinny> or nanny mania
[09:55] <miodek> english*
[09:55] <jinny> kiki
[09:55] <jinny> I already played it:)
[09:55] <Daskreech> If that helps you out any :)
[09:55] <Daskreech> Gotta go
[09:55] <jinny> and I luv some cooking games..:)
[09:55] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: yeah i like qtparted, thats what used to be built into the installer.
[09:56] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: i'm just dense and a noob.. so...  there ya go..  (plus.. rather ask 6 times and make sure I understand then give you the wrong answer and watch your system crash and burn)
[09:56] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: you can install qtparted if you feel more comfortable with it.  did you need to know how?
[09:56] <jinny> Sedega will work for it?
[09:56] <jinny> I dun know
[09:56] <miodek> everyone is sleeping ;]  and i must learn english ;] 
[09:56] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: no, it's in the menu like you said
[09:56] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: thanks for the help
[09:56] <jinny> even I installed the Win xp under linux
[09:57] <jinny> but it's too slow!
[09:57] <jinny> But playing games is not very important I will just enjoy some flash games:)
[09:57] <dogatemycomputer> jinny:  i'm happy to help but we would need to know exactly what you want to play.. the name I guess.. so we can go find a solution for ya.  Its not easy getting Windows Apps to work under linux..
[09:58] <jinny> yeah.. u r right..
[09:58] <flake> i have twinview set up for feisty, can i use one monitor for drawing and the other for panel stuff..  the wacom pen moves from the left to the right screen
[09:58] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: otherwise I would suggest loading the "add/remove programs" and checking under "games".. there are thousands of games for linux listed in there.
[09:58] <jinny> I already gave the name of games "nanny mania" or "the apprentice"
[09:58] <jinny> those are names.
[09:59] <jinny> I'm really grateful to you!
[09:59] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: well.. i've never successfully resized a partition with qtparted for some reason.  if that doesn't work then try gparted..  but however you get it done.. glad to hear it!
[09:59] <jinny> I know that there are not many games for girls(?) under linux
[09:59] <jinny> but it's ok!
[09:59] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: nanny mania is a shockwave game.. right?
[10:00] <jinny> well
[10:00] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: well..  one of my favorites is Dinner Dash..
[10:01] <SkiffX> hmm funny I open an mp3 file from network, amarok plays it and xmms doesnt
[10:01] <jinny> yeah!
[10:01] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: let me check something.. brb
[10:01] <jinny> I wanna play it as well
[10:01] <SkiffX> any1 had something liek that ?
[10:01] <jinny> actually my favorite game was restaurant empire
[10:02] <jinny> so I like that kind of game "simul game"
[10:02] <jinny> can i play dinner dash under linux?
[10:03] <jwallingford> so i am in adept manager -> Manage Repositories -> Third Part -> I click "Add" then enter "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security universe multiverse". Nothing happens. I got that url from source-o-matic
[10:03] <jwallingford> why is this not working?
[10:04] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: i'm working on it.. i'm curious if you can.. but i'll need to do some research so if you wanna hang out for a few minutes.. i'll brb
[10:04] <jinny> ok thank u so much!!!
[10:07] <jwallingford> could someone please help me with this?
[10:08] <jwallingford> should I use shell? Im not very familiar with text edit in shell or console
[10:08] <KomiaPoika> how can i not start sendmail at boot?
[10:08] <KomiaPoika> oops
[10:08] <crimsun> jwallingford: you should already have that if you installed kubuntu feisty.
[10:09] <crimsun> jwallingford: oh sorry, for universe & multiverse?
[10:09] <jwallingford> i dont know. All I know is that not all the software I want is available through the default installation
[10:09] <guille> Hi i got a question,
[10:09] <jwallingford> i would like the latest thunderbird v2.o instead of 1.5
[10:10] <jwallingford> and some others
[10:10] <crimsun> we don't ship 2.0 for feisty.
[10:10] <Darkkish> when i get to the install process that says "Prepare disk space" it hangs
[10:10] <guille> usng a video card, ati radeon, i have heard about intalling fglrx, but i do that but the driver name does not change
[10:10] <Darkkish> does this happen to anyone else?
[10:10] <jwallingford> i know so what i am trying to do is add some repositories so that i can download things other than what comes by default
[10:10] <jwallingford> what is feist?
[10:10] <guille> in system settings it still says vesa, I tried to change it mannually, but then the screen goes gray
[10:11] <jwallingford> by the way
[10:11] <Darkkish> Feisty
[10:11] <crimsun> jwallingford: that's the security updates repository for feisty (7.04)
[10:11] <jwallingford> !feisty
[10:11] <ubotu> Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn) is the latest version of Kubuntu. Upgrading to Feisty: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FeistyUpgrades - Downloading: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[10:11] <crimsun> jwallingford: that repository does _not_ contain mozilla-thunderbird 2.0
[10:11] <jwallingford> ok. well i was trying to add others as well but they were not adding.
[10:11] <flake> in twinview can I restrict my wacom pen to one monitor?
[10:11] <jwallingford> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty universe multiverse
[10:11] <jwallingford> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-updates universe multiverse
[10:12] <jwallingford> oh they are all feisty
[10:12] <jwallingford> so how would i find a repository list that allows me to download thunderbird 2.0 and others?
[10:13] <AnyKey> Hello everyone.  Might anyone know if there is a PDF or something close that I can download then print that lists kubuntu commands from basic (mostly these) to higher level commands used in bash?
[10:13] <crimsun> jwallingford: I don't recommend anything of that sort, sorry.
[10:14] <guille> that would be something for me a list with the commands where to find it Anykey?
[10:15] <AnyKey> yeah.. I am looking for such a list.  Going on a camping trip in a camper to sit, eat, sleep then sit, eat, and sleep some more.. I am hoping to fill some time in there with other activities... like reading up on some of these commands etc. :)
[10:16] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: i'm still working on it.. installing Dinner Dash now to see if I can get it to load.
[10:16] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: running into problems?
[10:16] <Solarus> how can I configure my TV car
[10:16] <Solarus> oops
[10:16] <Solarus> card
[10:16] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: not anymore
[10:16] <Solarus> at the moment it is saying I need to select the driver in the logs etc
[10:16] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: did you need anything more?
[10:17] <binks> Solarus: !mythtv
[10:17] <Darkkish> dogatemycomputer: no thanks
[10:17] <binks> Solarus:| !mythtv
[10:18] <jinny> THanks dogatemycomputer!
[10:18] <dogatemycomputer> !mythtv | Solarus
[10:18] <ubotu> Solarus: MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[10:18] <jinny> I'm just a biginner of linux sorry for bothering you-
[10:18] <binks> jinny: dont ever be sorry
[10:18] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: i'm new too.. but i don't mind trying new things.. so i'm screwing around with it.
[10:19] <Solarus> !mythtv
[10:19] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[10:19] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: starting with Dinner Dash.. waiting to see how the installation works out.
[10:19] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: its downloading.
[10:19] <binks> whats dinner dash
[10:19] <jinny> wow thanks:
[10:19] <jinny> )
[10:19] <dogatemycomputer> binks: its a cheesy game that we like to play.. www.google.com -> "dinner dash" game
[10:19] <AnyKey> heh.. jinny no both here... thats why these linux big brains are here... to help whelps like me and you. ;)
[10:19] <binks> imjust installing edubuntu onto my kids new pc they are sooo exited
[10:20] <jinny> lol!
[10:20] <jinny> Merci!
[10:20] <jinny> my friend let me know this Konversation box, very happy to be here
[10:21] <jwallingford> so if i download a .rpm file can I install it in kubuntu/
[10:21] <jwallingford> *?
[10:21] <binks> very happy your here the more the better
[10:21] <binks> jwallingford: yes
[10:21] <AnyKey> jinny, its good to read up on the conversations at times too to get a jist of what is out there in the way of technologies etc in the linux OS.
[10:21] <jwallingford> what do i use to run it?
[10:21] <binks> jwallingford: |!alien
[10:21] <binks> arrr
[10:22] <jinny> :)
[10:22] <binks> !alien
[10:22] <ubotu> RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous)
[10:22] <jwallingford> ah
[10:22] <binks> jwallingford: what do you need to install
[10:23] <jwallingford> its just the adobe flash player plugin i need
[10:23] <jwallingford> adept doesnt have it available
[10:23] <binks> !flash
[10:23] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[10:23] <jwallingford> ty
[10:23] <AnyKey> !ubotu
[10:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:25] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: no luck girl.. i'm sorry :(
[10:25] <jinny> oh, it's ok!!
[10:26] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: they are shockwave based games so you can only play them through firefox.. and Dinner Dash won't work unless you have IE installed.. which sucks.
[10:26] <jinny> Thanks a lot
[10:26] <jinny> right!
[10:26] <jwallingford> !dvd
[10:26] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[10:26] <jinny> actually I am Korean
[10:26] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: there is hope.. i tried to download one of the games (Nanny Mania) and it responded that they are working on a version for linux.. its just not ready yet.
[10:26] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: not sure what that means..
[10:26] <jinny> most of Korean websites are working with Active x
[10:26] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: but it sounds better than "screw off"
[10:26] <Dellilah> dogatemycomputer: oh i love that game :D
[10:26] <jinny> which bothers me so much
[10:26] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: :-)
[10:27] <dogatemycomputer> Dellilah: yeah..  we should complain .. i just need to find out who to complain too.
[10:27] <jinny> still it's quite difficult to stay with linux coz I don't know much about it
[10:28] <Dellilah> dogatemycomputer: good luck ;)
[10:28] <binks> dogatemycomputer: you sure you need ie to play that game have you a link to the game
[10:28] <dogatemycomputer> brb
[10:28] <dogatemycomputer> binks:
[10:28] <jinny> but I think it's interesting to get to know something nex
[10:28] <jinny> new
[10:29] <dogatemycomputer> binks: there is a web version that goes to level 10.. but not beyond without downloading/installing the full blown version (Which sounds silly to me but that's how it works)..
[10:29] <jinny> but is it really difficult to make those games proper for linux?
[10:29] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: well.. don't panic.. its just new..
[10:29] <Zvezdichko> hello. I'd like to ask - do you know how to correct this - NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088?
[10:29] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: once you figure it out.. (reading and friends).. then you realize how much better it is..
[10:29] <jinny> right!
[10:29] <binks> jinny: no its not they just choose to write for the big paying doze market
[10:30] <jinny> ah, and we have to pay for cedega? right?
[10:30] <binks> well no just use wine
[10:30] <binks> !wine
[10:30] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[10:30] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: no.. its just a matter of numbers. That's changing though.  I'm seeing more and more support for linux that didn't exist even 6 months ago.  Its amazing the pace at which things are changing.
[10:30] <Darkkish> cedega is free
[10:30] <Darkkish> -_-
[10:30] <binks> ?
[10:30] <Darkkish> legally free. if you download a slightly older version
[10:31] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: Cedega isn't free unless you pirate it.. but I don't see anything to indicate these games work even with Cedega..
[10:31] <Darkkish> i don't remember how to get it free, but i know there i s a way
[10:31] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: and they don't work with Crossover either.
[10:31] <arun> intelikey: you there?
[10:31] <jinny> hm..
[10:31] <arun> i did a sudo dd to clean my hard drive, and its taking forever
[10:31] <arun> any tips?
[10:31] <arun> anyone?
[10:31] <Darkkish> Well I got WoW to run on Wine faster than on windows
[10:31] <binks> ok if its pure gaming you want windows is the way sorry but if its a stable virus free enviroment then its inux
[10:31] <Darkkish> we'll see if i can do that again since all of the latest patches
[10:32] <Darkkish> anyways i have to restart
[10:32] <Darkkish> I've got linux installed :D
[10:32] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: i'm sorry :(   most of the popular games work fine but the less-popular ones like Dinner Dash and Nanny Mania just aren't there yet.
[10:32] <jinny> but my games I want to play they don't work with wine
[10:32] <jinny> right
[10:32] <dogatemycomputer> Darkkish: AWESOME!!!!
[10:32] <jinny> tha
[10:32] <jinny> that's my problem!
[10:32] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: sorry.. but no :(
[10:32] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: you can play the web versions..
[10:33] <jinny> but mostly they are demo
[10:33] <hangthedj> if you have a windows disk you could always install it on a VM
[10:33] <binks> have you a link to dinner dash
[10:33] <dogatemycomputer> actually.. that might be a lie.. does anyone know if Shockwave works on linux?
[10:33] <AnyKey> dogatemycomputer, automatix installs firefox and all the plugin perfectly for things like flash, java etc... try that maybe.
[10:33] <crdlb> dogatemycomputer, it doesn't
[10:33] <crdlb> only flash does
[10:33] <dogatemycomputer> binks: http://www.shockwave.com/gamelanding/dinerdash.jsp
[10:34] <binks> dcheers ill take a look
[10:34] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: that looks like the problem.. shockwave doesn't work at all on linux
[10:34] <dogatemycomputer> Isn't Shockwave owned by Adobe?
[10:34] <MaTiAz> Yeah
[10:34] <glauco1> hi
[10:34] <dogatemycomputer> Then what's holding them up?
[10:34] <hangthedj> you might try installing the new version of seamonkey.  it seems to run most everything
[10:35] <jinny> can we use adobe shockwave player under linux?
[10:35] <MaTiAz> Hmm
[10:35] <binks> http://sdc.shockwave.com/shockwave/download/alternates/
[10:35] <MaTiAz> how to setup a scanner in Linux?
[10:35] <binks> look under linux its suggests flash under firefox
[10:35] <hangthedj> !kooka
[10:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kooka - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:38] <hangthedj> !info kooka
[10:38] <ubotu> kooka: scanner program for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 743 kB, installed size 1204 kB
[10:39] <MaTiAz> Ok, thanks :)
[10:39] <ubuntu_> about installing kubuntu again, anyone care to help out here ?
[10:39] <jinny> anyhow thank you so much, guys!
[10:40] <djdarkman_> can someone tell me how to configure a vnc server?
[10:40] <ubuntu_> I have a previous installation, but I want to format it and do a clean install
[10:40] <jinny> I will try all you guys mentioned today!:)
[10:40] <jinny> saturday with linux!lol
[10:41] <jinny> ah today is my birthday!
[10:41] <ubuntu_> but I also have xp installed and Im now wondering that if I simply install the ew kubuntu on the same partition as the previous one will I still be able to boot to windows ?
[10:41] <jinny> kiki
[10:41] <jinny> so bye!
[10:41] <binks> jinny: happy birthday
[10:42] <guille> name of the ati driver?
[10:42] <ubuntu_> And what the hell am I supposed to do In the prepare partitions window ?
[10:42] <jinny> thanks binks!
[10:42] <binks> !fglrx
[10:42] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:42] <dogatemycomputer> binks: jinny:  I just left a complaint with Adobe about the lack of a Shockwave player.  I think anyone else who is interested should do the same thing.  If you want the link then i'll be happy to post it.
[10:42] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: Happy Birthday!
[10:42] <khaije1> !birthday
[10:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about birthday - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:42] <khaije1> oh.. Happy BDay jinny
[10:43] <dogatemycomputer> !language
[10:43] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:43] <binks> ubuntu_: you need to do some reading and make your own hoices on partitioning as every pc is different
[10:44] <binks> ^choices
[10:44] <dogatemycomputer> !shockwave
[10:44] <ubotu> Shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[10:44] <ubuntu_> How do I choose the partition for the root system in the Prepare partitions window, keeps telling me none is selected even if i have on selected ? do i need to edit the mountpoint ?
[10:44] <MrDigimon> How do i get rid of the "could not load openGL..." in enemy territory?
[10:44] <fdoving> psynth: mountpoint will be /
[10:45] <hangthedj> dogatemycomputer: whats the shockwave complaint link?
[10:45] <psynth> so I edit the mount point to / and thats it ?
[10:45] <fdoving> psynth: yes.
[10:45] <jinny> thanks I will try to leave a complaint with adobe:)
[10:45] <psynth> how do i select the swap ?
[10:45] <psynth> the old one is showing but how to select it ?
[10:45] <fdoving> psynth: you don't need to, it'll be autoselected.
[10:46] <psynth> ok
[10:46] <dogatemycomputer> hangthedj: go to this link if it works (if it doesn't let me know)
[10:46] <dogatemycomputer> hangthedj: https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/support/index.cfm?event=membership&returnURL=%2Fcfusion%2Fsupport%2Findex%2Ecfm%3Fevent%3Dportal&loc=en_us
[10:46] <psynth> fdoving: thanks alot, and a last question, if I install this new version over on the old ext3 partition nothing will change boot wise ?
[10:47] <dogatemycomputer> hangthedj: its basically.. www.adobe.com, support from the top then "contact support" on the right.. create an account and submit a case..
[10:48] <dogatemycomputer> Honestly.. I would encourage everyone to submit a case.. although i'm not sure Adobe plans to develop shockwave anymore.. then they should at least try to port the games.. some of them are quite fun.
[10:48] <jinny> I will learn more about linux by myself and I'll come back! thank you and sorry if I make a mistake here I don't know the rules here very well
[10:48] <jinny> have a good day!!:)
[10:48] <jwallingford> what version of kde comes with 7.04?
[10:48] <dogatemycomputer> jinny: have a great one!  come back soon..
[10:49] <hangthedj> jwallingford: 3.5.6 or 3.5.7
[10:52] <A-L-A-R-M> hello. when opening some text files with kaffeine , it always creates another file with the same name, for example test.txt , it creates a file test~ . what is that
[10:52] <fdoving> A-L-A-R-M: with kaffeine?
[10:55] <A-L-A-R-M> ehmm sorry, i was writing a code for kaffeine eheheh . i meant kate
[10:55] <fildo> !nvidia
[10:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:56] <flowingfire> Hello Kubuntu-ers... I have a question about Beryl... How do I get it to install correctly on Kubuntu without completely messing up everything.  I actually just tried it four different ways, and it caused an irreconcilable problem each of four times... I got it working on another installation, but the directions on beryl's website have been ... deleted by some stupid hackbot
[10:57] <premier_> hello, whats the package that doubles you battery life and protects your laptop from water and fall damage?
[10:57] <premier_> linux can do that, right?
[10:57] <flowingfire> I think there's a power-saving package, actually, premier, that might just double your battery life by changing the frequency of your CPU.
[10:58] <premier_> flowingfire: lol... the acpi is a little screwy on my computer
[10:58] <djdarkman_> Does someone know how to configure krfb?
[10:58] <flowingfire> hehe ok
[10:58] <A-L-A-R-M> so?
[10:58] <flowingfire> If anybody has a clue about getting Beryl working on Kubuntu w/ Nvidia-glx-new, let me know
[10:59] <noiesmo> flowingfire, mine works
[10:59] <djdarkman_> flowingfire: what`s the problem?
[10:59] <premier_> flowingfire: can the program micromanage cpu usage?  like, linux uses <10% of cpu most of the time, but it spikes every few seconds... can it micromanage like that?
[10:59] <premier_> I'm having trouble with beryl too... kdesktop seems to conflict with beryl
[11:00] <premier_> basically, beryl complains about other window managers until you crash kdesktop
[11:00] <flowingfire> Yeah . . . Interestingly, though I'm having problems now, I got it to work almost -perfectly- on another installation.  gawd I wish the wiki on the beryl website was intact. lol
[11:00] <flowingfire> but, alas, the wiki got hacked by a bot and all the directions i'm looking for got deleted
[11:01] <djdarkman_> flowingfire: distro?
[11:02] <djdarkman_> flowingfire: what version/release of kubuntu do you use?
[11:03] <flowingfire> Oh I use Kubuntu Feisty with all the new updates
[11:03] <flowingfire> :)
[11:03] <flowingfire> I think it's either Feisty Fawn... or Feisty Fox for that matter!
[11:03] <djdarkman_> then flowingfireuse this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BerylOnFeisty?highlight=%28beryl%29
[11:03] <djdarkman_> * use
[11:03] <djdarkman_> it works perfectly
[11:04] <flowingfire> Oh cool. :) Ok thanks djdarkman... I will follow that.
[11:05] <djdarkman_> flowingfire: no problem, glad I could help, I had major issues before feisty, but it feisty it seem to just work
[11:10] <iouQ> hi all
[11:12] <leosn> hi all
[11:16] <_boo> red
[11:17] <_boo> still red
[11:18] <_boo>  red is so unprofessional...
[11:18] <_boo> we
[11:18] <olmo> ?
[11:19] <Darkkish> so
[11:19] <Darkkish> I have two questions
[11:19] <Darkkish> number one, why are the mounted things on my desktop not showing the same pretty icons that showed in the live CD (instead they are jsut shown as folders)
[11:20] <Andeh> Hi
[11:20] <Andeh> The Fluxbox Channel is empty, so i came here
[11:20] <Andeh> I just installed fluxbox (ubuntu, apt-get) and the default style is horrible, and when i go to "fluxbox menu" System Styles and User Styles are empty...
[11:20] <Andeh> And /usr/share/fluxbox/styles is not empty
[11:20] <Andeh> i even copied the styles from the tarball there myself..
[11:21] <Andeh> Sorry
[11:21] <Andeh> im back
[11:28] <just-this-time> where can I get some help with mythTV
[11:30] <merzbow> so what's so special about kubuntu?
[11:31] <Darkkish> It's like.. linuxy
[11:31] <Darkkish> and KDE
[11:31] <Timsen> hi, would I need to reinstall the ati driver after a kernel upgrade? i made a dist-upgrade and after that update my direct rendering is deactivated, if I boot the old kernel it works as before
[11:32] <merzbow> Darkkish, isn't the normal ubuntu....linuxy?
[11:32] <Darkkish> merzbow: i suppose so but it's not KDE ;)
[11:34] <rdallarmi> hi, is there anybody in here with knowledge of courier?
[11:34] <korobase> Hi,all
[11:34] <korobase> !UUID
[11:34] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[11:35] <Extrapan> Timsen: yes you need to build a new module for the upgraded kernel
[11:35] <Darkkish> !mp3
[11:35] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:36] <Timsen> Extrapan: okay, therefor I should again the driver package or can I rebuild the module from the old kernel?
[11:36] <Timsen> + use
[11:37] <just-this-time> !mythtv
[11:37] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[11:37] <Extrapan> when I did it last time I just rebuild the old one and it worked
[11:37] <Timsen> okay I will try that
[11:37] <Timsen> thanks Extrapan
[11:37] <merzbow> Darkkish, and whats so especial about kde anyway?
[11:38] <Darkkish> merzbow: have you ever used linux?
[11:38] <Darkkish> it's just a different interface.
[11:38] <Darkkish> to each is own
[11:39] <merzbow> Darkkish, yes I have... but... I have the impression that kubuntu is kinda...less stable thatn the gnome ubuntu....
[11:39] <Darkkish> lol
[11:39] <Darkkish> it's not.
[11:40] <asalam> hio!
[11:40] <Darkkish> Most windows switchers like it more because it's more framilliar for one thing
[11:40] <asalam> im having ugly fonts on this particular site: www.clanbase.com
[11:40] <asalam> how can i set this right?
[11:42] <merzbow> and kde looks kinda.... bloated
[11:43] <SlimeyPete> kde's no more blated than gnome, really
[11:43] <SlimeyPete> *bloated
[11:43] <just-this-time> !sound
[11:43] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[11:46] <wietse> goodmorning
[11:46] <wietse> i'm trying to install a program i downloaded
 can someone explain me what codes to use in the terminal?
[11:47] <SlimeyPete> what sort of file is it?
[11:47] <wietse> its a programprogram
[11:47] <just-this-time> my sound onboard is on HP asus oEM and idd as alc883 .
[11:47] <SlimeyPete> no, I mean... is it a .deb, a .tgz, a .tar.gz....
[11:47] <wietse> i downloaded the tar.gz file and extracted it
[11:47] <SlimeyPete> a .bin....
[11:47] <just-this-time> is it supported?
[11:47] <SlimeyPete> ah
[11:48] <SlimeyPete> weiser: what program is it?
[11:48] <wietse> gnome blog
[11:48] <wietse> can i use that in kde?
[11:48] <wietse> kubuntu
[11:48] <SlimeyPete> weiser: don't use the .tar.gz file. gnome-blog is already available via Adept.
[11:49] <SlimeyPete> and yes, I should think you can use it just fine
[11:49] <wietse> ok
[11:49] <wietse> i couldn't find it via Adept
[11:49] <weiser> SlimeyPete: No me but wietse
[11:49] <wietse> :)
[11:49] <SlimeyPete> we	sorry
[11:50] <SlimeyPete> wietse: enable Universe
[11:50] <wietse> ?
[11:50] <weiser> (=
[11:50] <wietse> can't find that setting
[11:50] <wietse> i've ticked
[11:50] <wietse> 'unsupported' and 'propriaty software'
[11:50] <wietse> and selected all suites
[11:51] <SlimeyPete> wietse: it's called "Community maintained"
[11:51] <SlimeyPete> it's on the fi
[11:51] <SlimeyPete> rst page of the
[11:51] <SlimeyPete> Adept repository manager
[11:51] <SlimeyPete> aerk, sorr
[11:51] <SlimeyPete> y
[11:51] <HighHo> wietse: its called gnome-blog
[11:52] <SlimeyPete> oh poo... I think my netowkr is playing up
[11:52] <wietse> ok hold on
[11:52] <wietse> Adept repository manager, where can I find that?
[11:52] <tahsin> how do i get a display picture on kopete ?
[11:52] <wietse> its not the same as the Adept installer?
[11:52] <SlimeyPete> wietse: there's an "Adept" menu in the top-left. It's in there.
[11:52] <SlimeyPete> wietse: it's a screen in the Adept installer
[11:52] <mikkael> is it possible to create a partition on a disk that im using at the moment ?
[11:52] <tahsin> slimeypete: how do i get a display picture on kopete ?
[11:53] <mikkael> or do i need a live-system for that ?
[11:53] <wietse> am i just being really daft?
[11:53] <SlimeyPete> tahsin: I have no idea, sorry
[11:53] <wietse> there sin't
[11:53] <tahsin> mikkael: how do i get a display picture on koprte?
[11:53] <wietse> Adept in the top left only gives the 'Quit' option
[11:53] <mikkael> tahsin check the config menu
[11:54] <SlimeyPete> wietse: hrm. It should give more than that.
[11:54] <wietse> is there another way?
[11:54] <wietse> i know more tech minded people use the terminal
[11:54] <wietse> i'm just not clued up on codes etc
[11:54] <wietse> commands i mean
[11:54] <tahsin> mikkael: i did but couldnt locate
[11:54] <SlimeyPete> wietse: yes, there is. Open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install gnome-blog"
[11:55] <HighHo> mikkael: I thing any disks in use will be locked, you can use gparted on either a usb stick or from the ubuntu live cd
[11:55] <mikkael> tahsin: "identity"
[11:56] <wietse> SlimeyPete: the install is running now
[11:56] <mikkael> HighHo: qtparted offers the option, but im not sure if this would be safe to use :)
[11:57] <buggy_> hay guys - anyone have a suggestion for a good app that will get podcast and rss feeds without allot of hassle ? running kubuntu - fiesty - latest version
[11:58] <HighHo> mikkael: I imagine just as safe as when editting partions with any software :p
[11:59] <flowingfire> Akregator doesn't work for u buggy?
[11:59] <wietse> SlimeyPete: i think the install might be complete, but there's nothing showing in the programs
[11:59] <SlimeyPete> wietse: try running "gnome-blog" from a terminal
[12:00] <flowingfire> Question: I get two Beryl icons on startup.  Any ideas?
[12:00] <wietse> what is the command?
[12:00] <SlimeyPete> wietse: you may have to add it to the menu manually - a lot
[12:00] <wietse> hmm
[12:00] <SlimeyPete> wietse: gnome-blog
[12:00] <wietse> i mean the command to run a program
[12:01] <SlimeyPete> wietse: yeah. Just type gnome-blog
[12:01] <wietse> bash: gnome-blog: command not found
[12:01] <buggy_> slimeypete - know of a good one that runs on kde desktop?
[12:01] <SlimeyPete> wietse: oh.... hrm. Try typing "gnome", then hit tab a couple of times
[12:02] <SlimeyPete> buggy_: no, sorry
[12:02] <buggy_> ok
[12:02] <wietse> wietse@daf:~$ gnome-
[12:02] <wietse> gnome-blog-poster        gnome-open
[12:02] <wietse> gnome-keyring-daemon     gnome-video-thumbnailer
[12:02] <buggy_> seems there is allot more stuff like this for ubuntu.... :o(
[12:03] <Ziga> ciao!^^
[12:03] <giovanni_> ciao
[12:03] <Ziga> questo  il canale di aiuto italiano?
[12:03] <giovanni_> non lo so...
[12:04] <hyuma>  ciao ragazzi  bello vedere italiani :=)
[12:04] <giovanni_>  la prima volta che ci entro
[12:04] <Ziga> ciao hyuma!
[12:04] <giovanni_> ciao
[12:04] <SlimeyPete> wietse: try "gnome-blog-poster"
[12:04] <Ziga> hyuma tu sai come si chiama il canale italiano?
[12:04] <hyuma> non lo so
[12:04] <hyuma> ho appena aperto #ubuntuitalia
[12:04] <hyuma> joinate
[12:04] <Darkkish> can someone help me set up beryl?
[12:05] <Darkkish> when i run it i get a white cube with no desktops on it
[12:05] <titanix88> sm1 help me to run azureus from .jar
[12:05] <kumamoto> !compiz
[12:05] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:05] <kumamoto> !beryl
[12:05] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:06] <kumamoto> Darkkish: check on #ubuntu-effects maybe they can help
[12:06] <Darkkish> kumamoto: thanks
[12:06] <HighHo> buggy_: Not sure if theres a program that can do them both, but there is "Akregator" for RSS feeds, and "Kitty" for podcasts
[12:06] <wietse> SlimeyPete: gnome-blog-poster doesn't work
[12:07] <wietse> i get a long error message
[12:07] <SlimeyPete> wietse: oh... strange. Does it give an error message? I just ran it on my system and it worked fine
[12:07] <titanix88> !jar
[12:07] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:07] <wietse> shall post the error message in here?
[12:07] <wietse> or maybe in another window?
[12:08] <SlimeyPete> wietse: paste it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:08] <SlimeyPete> and give me the url it generates
[12:08] <titanix88> sm1 help me to run azureus from .jar
[12:08] <buggy_> highho - thx will check out - just tried command - gnome-blog in konsole and got following error - <bash: gnome-blog: command not found>
[12:08] <SlimeyPete> titanix88: java -jar azureus.jar
[12:09] <SlimeyPete> titanix88: why are you running it from a .jar, though? It's available via Adept...
[12:09] <wietse> SlimeyPete: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23695/
[12:09] <titanix88> SlimeyPete: its old in repository. i want to try v3
[12:09] <HighHo> buggy_: I think that command was intended for somone else :)
[12:09] <SlimeyPete> titanix88: ah right
[12:10] <buggy_> oh ok
[12:10] <SlimeyPete> wietse: hrm, looks like your aspell dictionary is missing
[12:10] <buggy_> will stick with gui one for now
[12:10] <titanix88> SlimeyPete :thnk u
[12:10] <SlimeyPete> wietse: try doing "sudo apt-get install aspell-en"
[12:11] <wietse> ok
[12:14] <FeroX> c' qualche italiano?
[12:15] <FeroX> ok
[12:15] <FeroX> so i have to speak in english
[12:15] <FeroX> :)
[12:15] <HighHo> Ferox: #ubuntu-it
[12:15] <HighHo> Ferox: or maybe #kubuntu-it :p
[12:16] <FeroX> :)
[12:16] <Emerald> hello
[12:17] <FeroX> i had a beautyfull kubuntu system
[12:17] <FeroX> one day i decided to install kde4 alpha
[12:17] <Emerald> I am a new Ubuntu user, it came with Gnome, I installed it today.  My friend who was helping me told me to try KDE.   KDE, at first look does not look better, why should I used KDE over gnome?
[12:17] <FeroX> now i'm running kubuntu on cd live
[12:18] <FeroX> because also wireless doesn't work
[12:18] <FeroX> is it possibleto update my old installatin from live cd?
[12:18] <HighHo> Emerald: Its all about preference, I would recommend trying both and then choosing the one you prefer
[12:19] <Emerald> well Gnome came with all these cool things, like the cube, and audio controls....does KDE have this ?
[12:20] <HighHo> FeroX: if you open Adept Manager you can goto File > Manage Repositories > Third Party > Add Cdrom
[12:21] <FeroX> HighHo: X doesn't start
[12:21] <HighHo> Emerald: Yes
[12:22] <FeroX> i coluld ad cd to repositories....
[12:22] <HighHo> Emerald: You do not even need to remove gnome to try KDE
[12:22] <kumamoto> KDE has a plethora of features and if you aren't satisfied with the default look you can always check out
[12:22] <kumamoto> [#kubuntu] 
[12:22] <kumamoto> [#kubuntu] 
[12:22] <kumamoto> oops
[12:23] <Emerald> ok let me try to add
[12:23] <kumamoto> you can always check out http://www.kde-look.org/
[12:23] <HighHo> FeroX: Can you load the recovery mode kernel?
[12:23] <wietse> SlimeyPete: thanks for your help, its working now, just wondering if there is a possibility of creating a short cut/ icon somewhere i could just click on, instead of having to do the command in the terminal each time
[12:23] <FeroX> HighHo: es
[12:23] <FeroX> HighHo: es
[12:23] <FeroX> HighHo: yes
[12:25] <SlimeyPete> wietse: if you right-click on the K button on your toolbar, you should be able to add menu entries using the menu editor
[12:25] <HighHo> FeroX: Load that, remove the KDE4 packages if you have not done so and run the following command if you can still not start X (kdm): sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[12:26] <FeroX> and i can i had cd to repositories?
[12:26] <wietse> SlimeyPete: yeah, just that gnome-blog-poster still don't show in the programs
[12:26] <FeroX> and how can i had cd to repositories?
[12:27] <SlimeyPete> wietse: what do you mean? You need to select a category from the left, hit the "new" button and then add an entry to that category
[12:27] <wietse> yeah sorry
[12:27] <SlimeyPete> wietse: type "gnome-blog-poster" into the "command" field
[12:27] <wietse> got it all working
[12:27] <SlimeyPete> wietse: :)
[12:27] <wietse> thanks SmileyPete
[12:27] <wietse> :)
[12:28] <wietse> wicked
[12:28] <SlimeyPete> no problem
[12:29] <HighHo> FeroX: Are you using 64 bit or 32bit?
[12:30] <FeroX> 32
[12:31] <HighHo> FeroX: Add a line like this to your sources.list file: deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn] / feisty main restricted
[12:32] <HighHo> Due to updated packages etc, there is a chance you will not be able to install certian packages this way.
[12:33] <FeroX> sudo apt-cdrom add
[12:33] <FeroX> !
[12:34] <FeroX> i'll try
[12:35] <HighHo> sure you can use that command if you want to save time :p
[12:51] <brosioz> hi all
[12:51] <brosioz> but there is some differeces from beryl and compiz ?
[12:57] <HighHo> brosioz: they are 2 diffrent projects from the same base, they will both be merged again in the future
[12:57] <brosioz> HighHo: thx
[12:58] <brosioz> in your opinion
[12:58] <brosioz> which is the most simply to use ?
[12:59] <HighHo> I would personally recommend Beryl on kubuntu
[01:02] <HighHo> You can install "beryl-kubuntu" which should include all you need
[01:03] <Emerald> hmmm
[01:04] <Jucato> brosioz: see #ubuntu-effects for more information
[01:09] <fildo> !tv
[01:09] <ubotu> http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out
[01:09] <just-this-time> how to automate remote help
[01:12] <just-this-time> !remotehelp
[01:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remotehelp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:12] <just-this-time> !vnc
[01:12] <ubotu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[01:15] <fildo> !vtv
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <luca> good day
[01:30] <luca> what is the package needed to enable support for the 3945 wireless card?
[01:31] <`cYr|x_> does someone know how to fix if KDE su return an error?
[01:32] <PhinnFort> wtf does Kubuntu ship with so many fugly and broken fonts by default?
[01:32] <PhinnFort> Mitra Mono, for example, and the Baekmuk ones
[01:35] <calv_> does anyone here know how to get kiba-dock to remember icon orders, i.e. not go back to its original state?
[01:36] <|Osiris> o
[01:39] <_Shade_> hey i just switched from ati to nvidia, so i had to change my resolution back again and now when i login kdm screen is still @ 640x480 or so
[01:39] <_Shade_> so what can i do to make the login resolution higher
[01:43] <Andrew``> evening all
[01:44] <Andil> ouais pareil
[01:45] <Andrew``> I have been given a CD of 7.04. I currently use Suse and would like to give kubuntu a go. What I would like to know is, do I need to boot from the CD or just put it in and browse the CD and install from there?
[01:45] <^RiaN^> !vcdimager
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vcdimager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <^RiaN^> hiii all
[01:49] <ubunturos> Andrew``: since you want to try it out, put in the CD and restart your computer
[01:50] <ubuntu_> ciao a tutti
[01:50] <Andrew``> My CDrom is not my first boot device tho
[01:50] <ubunturos> Andrew``: when the computer restarts, enter your BIOS
[01:50] <ubunturos> Andrew``:  and change the boot device priority to CD-ROM
[01:51] <Andrew``> yes I knwo how to do that
[01:51] <ubunturos> Andrew``: ok,
[01:51] <Andrew``> :)
[01:51] <ubunturos> Andrew``: :)
[01:51] <_Shade_> how do i autoremove unneeded packages in adept?
[01:52] <Andrew``> !mp3
[01:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:52] <_Shade_> i mean an option like apt-get autoremove
[01:55] <goban> whats some games a seven year old might like?
[01:55] <PhinnFort> goban: the tux games?
[01:56] <PhinnFort> goban: planetpenguin racer
[01:56] <goban> thanks
[01:57] <PhinnFort> maybe supertuxkart too
[01:57] <PhinnFort> and supertux is always fun
[01:58] <PhinnFort> and my sister likes tuxpaint a lot too, she's 6
[01:58] <goban> thanks
[02:03] <Andrew``> Ok...going to try to install Kubuntu.. wish me luck...lol
[02:12] <ignazio> non riesco a lanciare beryl,  ho seguito la guida ma il desktop  uguale
[02:12] <ignazio> qualcuno mi sa dire come lo posso attivare?
[02:12] <LjL> !it | ignazio
[02:12] <ubotu> ignazio: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:12] <ignazio> ops
[02:12] <ignazio> sorry
[02:22] <_Shade_> could anyone help me with an nvidia card?
[02:23] <remy> Am I the only one with kcontact cloning *every* items (contatcs, to-do items,...)
[02:23] <remy> ?
[02:24] <hyuma> what's the better skin for traybar for kubuntu?
[02:36] <MrDigimon> dumb question: how do i activate the 3d acceleration of my graphic card?
[02:37] <Jucato> MrDigimon: what card?
[02:37] <MrDigimon> its a NVidia vanta-16
[02:37] <qdploveyike> ?
[02:37] <Jucato> !nvidia | MrDigimon
[02:37] <ubotu> MrDigimon: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:38] <MrDigimon> have some probs when trying to play WolfET
[02:43] <hyuma> !skin
[02:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about skin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <gino_> do somebody know what "fontconfig-config is missing final newline" when running apt
[02:45] <fdoving> gino_: can you quote the exact error ?
[02:45] <gino_> yes i'm goin to paste it
[02:46] <MrDigimon> must i do something else than install the driver and activate it now?
[02:46] <fdoving> !pastebin | gino_
[02:46] <ubotu> gino_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[02:46] <gino_> ok thanx
[02:47] <Levi-> Anyone here?
[02:47] <MrDigimon> | Jucato must i do something else than activate it now
[02:48] <Jucato> MrDigimon: um... not sure up to what step you followed. basically, install the packages, run the nvidia-xconfig command, then restart X
[02:48] <Levi-> Any idea why my desktop crashes when configureing my wireless card anyone?
[02:49] <MrDigimon> ok i just wondered if i had to do something after i installed and activated it, i restart it no seeya
[02:50] <Levi-> Any idea why my desktop crashes when configureing my wireless card?
[02:52] <gino_> posted at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23710/
[02:55] <decapitated> Hello
[02:56] <decapitated> anybody here
[02:56] <gino_> by the way, not worried for pacman. just a sample prg. it does the same with every prg
[02:58] <Andrew``> YAY!!!!!!!
[02:58] <Andrew``> Am now on Kubuntu!
[03:03] <sivaji> my dvd driver cant detect dvd disk in kubuntu but it works fine in windows
[03:04] <Andrew``> Ok I installed kubuntu on 2nd hard drive.. now I dont see where I can access my wondows drive in konqueror.. HELP!!!
[03:04] <Andrew``> windows
[03:04] <MaTiAz> Andrew``: Try /media/hda1?
[03:04] <fdoving> gino_: try 'echo -ne "\n"| sudo tee -a /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.list' from the commandline. without the ' quotes. but with the " quotes in the command.
[03:05] <Andrew``> nope not there :(
[03:07] <gino_> fdoving i get nothing in the shell
[03:08] <fdoving> gino_: good, try apt-get again.
[03:08] <gino_> fdoving: tried, same error
[03:10] <_Shade_> glxinfo shows the following output
[03:10] <_Shade_> http://rafb.net/p/G1Y8fK86.html
[03:10] <_Shade_> what do i do wrong with the nvidia drivers?
[03:10] <fdoving> gino_: ok, open /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.list in a text editor, like nano for example, write a char somewhere and delete it, keeping the file exactly like it was before, then save and exit.
[03:11] <fdoving> gino_: you will need to open that as root, like 'sudo nano /var/lib/dpkg/info/fontconfig-config.list'
[03:16] <FOAD_> Hi.
[03:16] <FOAD_> I just want to double-click on an URL to make Firefox open a page.  How?
[03:16] <FOAD_> I don't want a Kicker menu.
[03:18] <BluesKaj> no need to double click, once will do it... right click in the panel and hide it
[03:18] <BluesKaj> or remove  the kicker
[03:19] <sivaji> BluesKaj how to set firefox as my default browser when i click a link i want that to be opened  with firefox
[03:19] <FOAD_> I remove the kicker, clicking doesn't do anything.
[03:20] <FOAD_> If I just click once on a url (in konsole or sth) nothing happens.
[03:21] <gino_> fdoving: suedited fontconfig.list; now error is fontconfig.list contains empty filename
[03:21] <BluesKaj> sivaji, in the konsole : sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[03:21] <sivaji> what this command will do
[03:22] <sivaji> BluesKaj  what this command will do
[03:22] <BluesKaj> FOAD_, you can set all the clicking and personal prefernces in system settings ... we're here to help , but not hold your hand :)
[03:22] <LjL> sivaji: "man update-alternatives" will tell yuop
[03:23] <fdoving> gino_: fontconfig-config.list
[03:23] <BluesKaj> sivaji, it gives you a choice
[03:23] <sivaji> what choice
[03:23] <BluesKaj> take a look
[03:23] <gino_> sorry
[03:24] <yagami> why does my ubuntu live cd freeze right after starting gdm?
[03:24] <sivaji> !dvd
[03:24] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:24] <yagami> whoopsie. i mean kdm.
[03:24] <yagami> on a toshiba satellite
[03:25] <DexterF> hi
[03:25] <DexterF> 7.04 problem with USB
[03:26] <DexterF> my usb keyb and mouse don't work in 7.04. can't even login. live cd worked fine, other OS work fine, too (namely WinXP and Slackware)
[03:27] <yagami> do the devices show up at all? oh wait- you can't find out without the keyboard.
[03:27] <DexterF> suspect a kernel code glitch in usb handling, mayhap in connection with suspend modes. are there any alternative kernel images for 7.04 around?
[03:27] <Andrew``> ah fsck man!!! now I have no CDrom!!!
[03:27] <yagami> fsck indeed.
[03:27] <DexterF> yagami: interesting question, got a ps2 keyb that works, but it's on this box and I can't boot it right now. I'll check out later
[03:28] <fildo> !beryl
[03:28] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[03:28] <Andrew``> brb.. gonna try to get into my windows system
[03:28] <decapitated_> 
[03:30] <gino_> fdoving: suedited fontconfig-config.list. problem persists
[03:30] <sivaji> BluesKaj  my system cant detect dvd disk
[03:31] <fdoving> gino_: then re-edit it, go to the end and make a new blank line. then save and exit.
[03:32] <BluesKaj> sivaji, have you installed the codecs like you saw in the URL, libdvdcss2 etc ?
[03:32] <DaveTheAve> can someone please help me get this USB mouse to work?
[03:34] <DaveTheAve> Please help,  mean I'm sure numerous people here know how to install a USB mouse in festy.
[03:34] <fdoving> gino_: then i have no clue.
[03:34] <fdoving> gino_: are you sure the error message is the exact same?
[03:35] <sivaji> BluesKaj it is already there that too new version
[03:36] <BluesKaj> DaveTheAve, the only way i can think of is to ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ' in the konsole ...there you'll have choices of mousetypes and settings
[03:36] <gino_> fdoving: yes, thanx anyway
[03:36] <DaveTheAve> thank you
[03:36] <DaveTheAve> testing now
[03:39] <Andrew``> Ok.. my windows system is still there.. why can I not see it on my Kubuntu system?
[03:40] <DexterF> yagami: what I can remmeber tho is that in dmesg I got lots of msgs like "can't access this and that usb, cable faulty?"
[03:40] <sivaji> Andrew`` u mean u partition
[03:40] <Andrew``> can anyone help me? please?
[03:40] <Andrew``> yes
[03:40] <DexterF> (and no, it's not. the cables are all fine)
[03:40] <Andrew``> I have 2 drives
[03:40] <Andrew``> one with windows
[03:40] <Andrew``> the other with kubuntu
[03:40] <sivaji> u need to mount that
[03:41] <Andrew``> ok how do I do that?
[03:41] <_Shade_> what do i need to install an nvidia-legacy drivers properly
[03:41] <_Shade_> i mean the packages
[03:41] <hyuma> anyone use superkaramba?
[03:41] <sivaji> sudo mount /whereever /whatever fileformat
[03:42] <Andrew``> sorry am new to linux... can you be more specific?
[03:42] <sivaji> wait i will see and tell u
[03:42] <Andrew``> my windows is on hda
[03:43] <DaveTheAve> BluesKaj: I found this: pci-0000:00:1d.2-usb-0:1:1.0-mouse in /dev/input/by-path
[03:43] <dwbell> hyuma: I do
[03:43] <rdallarmi> hi, does anybody knows , in UIbunut (feisty) what is the root filesystem of the chrooted courier?
[03:43] <yagami> DexterF, but you're saying it works fine now even on xp/slackware and that hardware faults can be ruled out? if so, i am baffled. might want to download a new copy of ubuntu checksum and try again...i am sure someone else can offer a much better solun.
[03:43] <DaveTheAve> BlueKaj: oh.... and that function didn't work
[03:44] <sivaji> Andrew`` tell u partition name it will be like /dev/hdb5
[03:44] <DexterF> yagami: if all else fails ill hack up a kernel myself. after all, i can get to an tty. kubuntu seems a little bold with new shiny kernel options sometimes.
[03:45] <hyuma> dwbell: what style u use for superkaramba?
[03:45] <dwbell> hyuma: a hacked up version of glass moniter
[03:46] <hyuma> where you get it?
[03:46] <Andrew``> sorry sivaji I am not understanding your broken english
[03:46] <dwbell> hyuma: it's been a look time, just a moment and I'll look
[03:47] <sivaji> Andrew``   ok sorry type this "system:/media"  in konqueror address bar u can see all partitions
[03:47] <hyuma> thank you dwbell
[03:47] <sivaji> Andrew`` fast ple
[03:48] <Andrew``> The file or folder system:media does not exist.
[03:48] <Andrew``> oops
[03:48] <Andrew``> sorry will try again properly
[03:48] <Andrew``> lol
[03:48] <pikko> morning, all...
[03:48] <sivaji> Andrew`` mad can u see /  system:/media
[03:49] <dwbell> hyuma: glass monitor can be found here: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/GlassMonitor+-+DynamicPartition?content=52038
[03:49] <hyuma> yes
[03:49] <Andrew``> 1:cdrom 2:cdrom0 3:floppy 4:floppy0
[03:50] <dwbell> hyuma: karamba themes in general here: http://www.kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=38
[03:50] <hyuma> thanks a lot dwebll now I'm  trying to change traybar too
[03:50] <sivaji> Andrew`` ok leave that do u qtparted
[03:51] <Andrew``> you want me to type qtparted?
[03:51] <dwbell> hyuma: the kicker?
[03:51] <hyuma> yes
[03:52] <sivaji> Andrew`` no .
[03:53] <dwbell> hyuma: to the best of my knowledge that is manual work, right click the kicker choose: panel menu-> configure panel then start playing with settings.
[03:53] <sivaji> Andrew`` is there any monitor like icon in u r taskbar
[03:53] <Andrew``> no there is no terminal icon
[03:54] <BluesKaj> in the K-menu , Andrew``
[03:54] <dr_willis> i always drag the Konxole icon to my panel first thing.
[03:54] <Andrew``> altho I can get to it via system menu
[03:54] <dr_willis> :)
[03:54] <hyuma> dwbell: the kicker style are available on kde-look.org right?
[03:54] <Andrew``> ok terminal opened
[03:54] <dr_willis> Konsole = terminal, drag it to the Panel so ya got easy access
[03:55] <sivaji> BluesKaj help him to mount windows partitions he doesnt know the name of that partition
[03:56] <Andrew``> BluesKaj: my windows is on "C" drive... hda1 I think
[03:56] <dwbell> hyuma: there are some background images and kmenu buttons at kde look but I think you'll have to tweak yourself
[03:57] <hyuma> yes I search
[03:57] <sivaji> Andrew`` partitions in need to mount tell me u r partition name ntfs or fat
[03:57] <sivaji> Andrew`` partitions type is need to mount tell me u r partition name ntfs or fat
[03:57] <Andrew``> I think ntfs
[03:58] <titanix88> hendaus: i got an idea.
[03:58] <BluesKaj> Andrew , which windows ...XP?
[03:58] <Andrew``> yes
[03:58] <titanix88> hendaus : i got an idea.
[03:58] <Andrew``> home
[03:58] <sivaji> Andrew`` run this  "mkdir  c"
[03:58] <BluesKaj> ok then it's ntfs ..most likely
[03:58] <titanix88> Andrew`` : whaz ur problem?
[03:58] <Andrew``> I cant see my windows parttion from kubuntu
[03:59] <titanix88> BluesKaj : u seem to hang out in the channel alot!
[03:59] <dwbell> sivaji: I really don't want to take over with andrew but maybe a typing df into terminal would help?
[03:59] <BluesKaj> titanix88, I have it open , but i'm not always here ...I learn a lot here
[03:59] <Daisuke_Ido> !ntfs | Andrew``
[03:59] <ubotu> Andrew``: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:00] <sivaji> Andrew`` then "sudo mount /dev/hdb1 ./c -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000"
[04:00] <sivaji> Andrew`` have u got
[04:02] <sivaji> Andrew`` are u there are not
[04:04] <rdallarmi> hi, does anybody knows , in UIbunut (feisty) what is the root filesystem of the chrooted courier?
[04:05] <dr_willis> Huh?
[04:05] <Andrew``> hang on sivaji am doing the diskmounter thing
[04:06] <rdallarmi> meaning if, from within the chrooted environment, courier looks at the <chrootbase>/var/mail/vmail  where is that <chrootbase>?
[04:06] <titanix88_> Andrew``: made the partition after ubuntu/GNU/Linux installation?
[04:08] <sivaji>  Andrew`` u must have some basic knowledge about kubuntu to mount windows partitions so learn kubuntu first
[04:08] <Andrew``> my windows is now there! thanks people
[04:08] <sasq> ehumm, I just installed the "ipod" package and got gnome as a bonus, now when I log in I get gnome instead of KDE... is that normal?
[04:08] <Andrew``> and so is my cdrom
[04:08] <dr_willis> ipod package?
[04:08] <sasq> a tool for reading info from ipod
[04:08] <titanix88_> Andrew``: how did it happen suddenly?!!
[04:08] <dr_willis> if it had the gnome dependencies.. it sould pull them down.
[04:08] <sivaji> Andrew`` u cant write file ntfs partition through linux
[04:08] <sasq> yeah but should it change the default environment?
[04:08] <dr_willis> you should be able to select kdm and kde from the login screen
[04:09] <sivaji> Andrew`` u cant write file to ntfs partition through linux
[04:09] <dr_willis> huh?
[04:09] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[04:09] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:09] <Andrew``> titanix88_:  I did the <ubotu> Andrew``: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse thing
[04:11] <sasq> heh the firefox dexcription; "lightweight web browser" should really be changed...
[04:12] <pikko> firefox has long since been crap
[04:12] <titanix88_> Andrew``: get it. i had the same prblm when i tried to connect my friends harddisk. done everything & it worked fine but only with sudo mount. then i figured out making the directory(like /media/sda5) group to plugdev automatically mounts them on login.
[04:12] <dr_willis> hmm thats the first id heard that fix titanix88_  :)
[04:13] <pikko> doesn't even have firefox installed
[04:13] <dr_willis> i just edit my fstab file.
[04:14] <sasq> well konqueror is just not that compatible
[04:14] <titanix88_> dr_willis: i didn't say i had not to edit fstab!
[04:14] <pikko> compaatible with what? that is the question,
[04:14] <binks> pikko: ok what browser to use
[04:14] <rashid>     ?
[04:15] <binks> rashid: errr english please
[04:15] <titanix88_> dr_willis: but to make it automountable on login.
[04:15] <pag> !ru | rashid
[04:15] <ubotu> rashid:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[04:15] <pikko> if you're not an open source only bigot, use Opera. I have since 2000 and it's my favorite browser. Nothing touches it.
[04:15] <binks> pikko: i am no biggot thanks i use whats best for the job
[04:15] <dr_willis> I dont care for Opera.  but this is linux.. use what you like.
[04:16] <rdallarmi> Hi, hi, how can I fond out what user curier deamons run under?
[04:16] <pikko> opera is just the most usable browser out there IMO
[04:16] <pikko> better features, better security
[04:16] <binks> pikko: can i play shockwave games in opera
[04:16] <pikko> yes, opera supports macromedia plugins
[04:17] <binks> ok ill give it ago brb
[04:17] <pikko> make sure you install opera and then check the plugin paths under prefs... restart opera if the plugins don't take first time
[04:18] <titanix88_> pikko: ever used epiphany(gnomes default webbrowser & i hate it for not having any interesting feature in the form of so called simplycity(believe it simpler than gedit)). i also don't appreciate their decision to discontinue galeon in favour of epiphany.
[04:18] <binks> epiphany is poor sorry my 2 pence
[04:18] <pikko> i don't use GTK stuff, titanix
[04:19] <pikko> i prefer qt environment
[04:19] <sivaji>  /join ubuntu
[04:19] <sivaji>  /join #ubuntu
[04:19] <tryleph> hi
[04:19] <titanix88_> pikko: then i'd say konquer it.
[04:19] <pikko> i use knoq and opera
[04:19] <pikko> er, konq
[04:20] <titanix88_> pikko: me fox, konq & galeon(u should try it ).
[04:20] <dr_willis> lynx :)
[04:20] <dhuv> hello all
[04:20] <pikko> titanix... i don't like galeon... tried it
[04:20] <dhuv> I just install the latest kubuntu on my T42 laptop
[04:20] <pikko> opera is a better browser
[04:21] <sivaji> !hi | dhuv
[04:21] <ubotu> dhuv: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[04:21] <dhuv> its great, most everything works well, just got Amarok to play mp3s
[04:21] <tryleph> how install opera via apt-get
[04:21] <dr_willis> !opera
[04:21] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[04:21] <dhuv> the problem is that the sound does not work, its detected
[04:21] <titanix88_> pikko: gnome should replace epiphany with w3m lol
[04:21] <dhuv> module is loaded
[04:21] <dhuv> everything is unmuted
[04:21] <dhuv> but no sound
[04:21] <dr_willis> at least opera got away from their lame  adware/comercial/oddball licensing stuff.
[04:21] <tryleph> thanks!
[04:21] <pikko> you dont... go to opera.com and download it... right click and let kubuntu install the .deb file automagically for you
[04:22] <sivaji> dhuv kmenu->multimedia->kmix check sound is on
[04:22] <pikko> titanix... epiphany is nothing but a subset of firefox... gecko rendering engine with a better interface.... that's all... it has no features
[04:22] <tryleph> internet its working... but NOT Konqueror
[04:23] <titanix88_> anyone used w3m here :) ?
[04:23] <pikko> lol
[04:23] <dr_willis> titanix88_,  all the time :0
[04:23] <dhuv> sivaji: it is, the icon is also in the sys tray
[04:23] <dhuv> its unmuted and all the way up
[04:23] <ed_be> titanix88_: sometimes
[04:23] <BluesKaj> opera is ok , it does some things that other browsers can't (like preserve and download encrypted pdf files) but it tries to do too much IMO ...the email program is clunky
[04:24] <titanix88_> dr_willis: reallllllllly light weight eh??? :)
[04:24] <pikko> once you go Opera, you never go back. That's been my experience.
[04:24] <sivaji> dhuv ok check that
[04:24] <dr_willis> titanix88_,  telnet www.google.com
[04:24] <dr_willis> :)
[04:24] <dr_willis> pikko,  trust me..I used Opera and went back....
[04:24] <tryleph> just "apt-get firefox" and voila i can surf!, now DIRECTLY to download Opera, cuz rulez!
[04:24] <dr_willis> :)
[04:24] <titanix88_> dr_willis: lol.
[04:25] <BluesKaj> well pikko that's YOUR experience, not mine :)
[04:25] <pikko> that's people who actually give Opera more than one day's try and care to master it...
[04:26] <BluesKaj> master ?
[04:26] <pikko> once you actually learn it, it's indispensible
[04:26] <pikko> master... you know... english word that means "learn" it through anf through
[04:26] <pikko> er, and
[04:27] <BluesKaj> what's to learn ? ...it's just browser that tries to be all things to all ppl...that seldom works
[04:27] <pikko> not true
[04:27] <titanix88_> pikko, BluesKaj: there is internet browser like IE6. i use it with wine. ;) it's totally secured & trusted.
[04:27] <pikko> better security than any other browser
[04:27] <pikko> titanix... better put your crack pipe away
[04:27] <dhuv> pikko: I have to admit that Opera is very fast even on slow computers
[04:28] <dhuv> there are good things about it
[04:28] <BluesKaj> bah, boot into windows titanix88_ if ya want to use EI
[04:28] <BluesKaj> or IE even :)
[04:28] <tryleph> opera its faster
[04:28] <titanix88_> pikko: u don't really believe me to use that junk do u ? :)
[04:28] <sasq> what is the best place to put a PATH=$PATH:/extra/stuff ? .bashrc, .profile or .bash_profile ... ?
[04:29] <Ace2016> opera is faster but opera doesn't work as well
[04:29] <pikko> i've been a linux user since '98 and an opera user since 2000. I've tried every browser out there.... literally.... moz, galeon, FF, flock, dillo, etc... i always come back to opera
[04:29] <dr_willis> sasq,  for a single user their .bash_profile most likely
[04:29] <Ace2016> opera cannot pann properly while zoomed, i've reported the bug over and over again ever since the very early beta 9 was released, and the devs don't seem to care about the linux version
[04:29] <dr_willis> Brower wars are like watching Female Mud Wrestling.. Its fun to watch.. but makes you feel dirty.
[04:30] <BluesKaj> weel opera saves the last home page to make it look faster, but it isn't really since it has to be refreshed to be up to date .
[04:30] <Andrew``> ok now i cant play my mp3s (which are located on my windows drive) any one help me here?
[04:30] <dr_willis> Andrew``,  if you mount the drive properly. you can access the files
[04:30] <Daisuke_Ido> have you installed the mp3 codec?
[04:30] <hendaus> titanix88_:  wb
[04:30] <PeterJB> hi
[04:31] <titanix88_> dr_willis: u r a female(so watching male mud wrsling makes u happy :)?
[04:31] <dr_willis> or is theissue the actual mp3 file?
[04:31] <dr_willis> titanix88_,   I perfer Jello myself.
[04:31] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: i think opera's interface is faster, like opening new tabs and navigation, it for me doesn't freeze the system when i have a lots of tabs open (about 25)
[04:31] <dr_willis> Lime!
[04:31] <Daisuke_Ido> "you" "are" "wrestling"
[04:31] <sasq> dr_willis: hmm, when is that read? only on login ?
[04:31] <Andrew``> I can see the files.. but tehy just wont open
[04:31] <Ace2016> firefox slows everything down
[04:31] <tryleph> Andrew: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodec
[04:31] <Daisuke_Ido> lord, why are people so LAZY?
[04:31] <PeterJB> you can tweak firefox so it has a smaller footprint
[04:31] <dr_willis> sasq,  thers docs on exactly where each is read. bash_profile is read just on the users inintial login (or from a login shell)
[04:32] <titanix88_> hendaus: i got a idea to search for .jpg in ur home.Let's go private.
[04:32] <Daisuke_Ido> you're not texting someone here, you don't have a character limit, it will not kill you to type the extra two letters in a word
[04:32] <dr_willis> Andrew``,  you need to install the various mp3 addons/codecs/whatever then for your tool.
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[04:32] <binks> BluesKaj: you not getting like loads of firefox crashes atm
[04:32] <binks> what version you on
[04:33] <ionus> how to install VMware-server-1.0.2-39867.i386.rpm.rpm.part
[04:33] <Ace2016> opera build 641, version 9.21
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> what the...
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> ionus: first of all, download vmware
[04:33] <Ace2016> ionus: install it from the repos?
[04:33] <PeterJB> the .part at the end of the vmware file means it hasn't downloaded competely
[04:33] <BluesKaj> no crashes binks
[04:33] <Daisuke_Ido> looks like you used firefox to download that and it's not done
[04:34] <PeterJB> use vmware server instructions
[04:34] <PeterJB> http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_vmware_server
[04:34] <Daisuke_Ido> and second, there's no reason anyone in their right mind would use an rpm :)
[04:34] <Ace2016> Daisuke_Ido: that .part ending thing is annoying, any way to turn it off?? i download a video, start watching, and it messes up in the middle
[04:34] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm not sure
[04:35] <Daisuke_Ido> never bothered me, bout the only thing i download via FF are torrent files :)
[04:35] <titanix88_> Daisuke_Ido: i have to sometimes because .deb is not available.
[04:35] <binks> Daisuke_Ido: torrent files why not use ktorrent
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> there is usually a better alternative than rpm.
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> binks: i do use ktorrent.  i'm talking about the *.torrent
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> and one of the sites i'm a member of is a bit anal about that
[04:36] <Dragnslcr> Worst case, you can use alien to convert an rpm to a deb
[04:36] <binks> Daisuke_Ido: ok i jumped in both feet as per usuall ha soz
[04:36] <Daisuke_Ido> no worries
[04:37] <BluesKaj> Daisuke_Ido, FF doesn't download the torrent files , your torrent client does
[04:37] <Ace2016> BluesKaj: hes talking about hte *.torrent files
[04:37] <pikko> panning works fine for me in opera
[04:38] <Daisuke_Ido> download in FF, open in ktorrent
[04:38] <Ace2016> pikko: try zooming in, on a page like slashdot, and then try panning
[04:38] <titanix88_> Daisuke_Ido : FF means?
[04:38] <pikko> works fine
[04:38] <Ace2016> pikko: zoom in untill all the scroll bars show, and pann all the way to the bottom and to the right,
[04:39] <Daisuke_Ido> firefox
[04:39] <binks> pikko: try play this game opera no go im afraid http://www.shockwave.com/gamelanding/dinerdash.jsp
[04:39] <BluesKaj> Ace2016, doesn't matter , he implied that FF DLs torrents ...don't want to give noobs the wrong imression :)
[04:40] <Ace2016> oh ok
[04:41] <dr_willis> dinerdash :) heh heh
[04:41] <pikko> no problem with the game
[04:41] <binks> its for the kids but i cant get it going
[04:41] <Daisuke_Ido> ooh, that was the wrong impression.  to correct myself once and for all, i download the *.torrent file with firefox, and open it in ktorrent.
[04:42] <Ace2016> pikko: can you play that game? for me it says; Download Adobe Shockwave Player
[04:42] <pikko> stupid game btw
[04:42] <dhuv> guys I had to turn the external amp off
[04:42] <Ace2016> We are unable to locate a Web player that matches your platform and browser.
[04:42] <binks> pikko: how did u get it working
[04:42] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't believe there's even a shockwave player for linux is there?
[04:42] <Ace2016> binks: there is no shockware for linux is there? only flash
[04:42] <Ace2016> lol
[04:43] <Ace2016> so how can pikko play it?
[04:43] <binks> yep but it says on site flashshould play it
[04:43] <pikko> i don't have shockwave, but i can play it
[04:44] <estudo> hi
[04:44] <Ace2016> ;)
[04:44] <binks> Ace2016: me too
[04:45] <binks> reading the small print it says online ver needs activex and ie
[04:45] <titanix88_> Ace2016: what game?
[04:45] <ionus> ace2016 and how i can install wmvare server
[04:45] <binks> http://www.shockwave.com/gamelanding/dinerdash.jsp
[04:45] <ionus> ?
[04:45] <Ace2016> titanix88_: that shockware game, the link to it
[04:45] <ionus> ace2016: and how i can install wmvare server
[04:45] <Ace2016> ionus: tried this? http://www.howtoforge.com/ubuntu_feisty_fawn_vmware_server_howto
[04:46] <ionus> ok
[04:46] <binks> btw this is no dig at ubuntu as my kids have there own edubuntu pc and love it would never go back to windowsvirusriddlepants
[04:46] <dhuv> clear
[04:50] <mindslant> Howdy, I want to get back into c++ programming.  What would I need to download to start up? (Do I need a compiler? )
[04:53] <titanix88_> mindslant: install build-essentils.
[04:53] <mindslant> thx.
[04:54] <titanix88_> mindslant: gcc will be installed. it's a first class c/c++/java etc.(like ada) compiler.
[04:57] <DexterF> upgrade 6.06 to 7.04: easy or mayhem?
[04:57] <titanix88_> mindslant: for reference : almost every app in GNU/Linux compiled with gcc.
[04:59] <Daisuke_Ido> DexterF: soul-stealing.
[04:59] <Daisuke_Ido> you first need to go from 6.06 to 6.10, THEN 6.10 to 7.04
[04:59] <DexterF> :(
[05:00] <DexterF> sounds liek I was better of with a re-install
[05:00] <dr_willis> i always do a clean install
[05:00] <dr_willis> saves a lot of hassles
[05:00] <Daisuke_Ido> you'd be better off backing up what you want to keep and doing a fresh install (assuming you don't have /home on a separate partition.  if that's the case, you're ahead of the game)
[05:00] <titanix88_> Daisuke_Ido: r u sure. (i thought dist-upgrade updates to latest dist)?
[05:01] <Jazon> hi guys
[05:01] <Daisuke_Ido> dapper will not upgrade to feisty successfully, and i am sure
[05:01] <Jazon> I am having trouble.  I installed windows on a small partition and lost my grub boot loader :-(   how can i restore it from the feisty fawn livecd?
[05:02] <LeeJunFan> !grub | Jazon
[05:02] <ubotu> Jazon: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:02] <Jazon> LeeJunFan: :D:D thx dude
[05:05] <titanix88_> Jazon: just because u got the link, don't think it will work(did not for me :).
[05:07] <Daisuke_Ido> nothing's universal.  it may not have worked for you, it might for him
[05:08] <dr_willis> Death and tax's = Universal :)
[05:08] <mindslant> My grandmother got alzheimers and stopped paying taxes all together...couldn't avoid death though
[05:08] <titanix88_> Daisuke_Ido: yeah it also depends on ur knowledge. Maybe i hadn't enough. :)
[05:09] <BluesKaj> yeah, Jazon you may have to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file to unhide the menu orcomment out the hiddenmenu line.
[05:10] <titanix88_> mindslant: death is earthly not universal (i mean allien civilization) though.
[05:11] <mindslant> uh...I know I can request downloads in adept...can I force downloads
[05:12] <BluesKaj> mindslant, no...you have to have the right repositories in the sources list
[05:12] <^RiaN^> who's here using win4lin
[05:13] <BluesKaj> mindslant, if the app isn't in adept or synaptic then find the app on the net and the associated repository info will usually be available
[05:14] <mrzippy_> Hola
[05:14] <mrzippy_> Necesito saber acerca de nx no machine
[05:14] <mrzippy_> Hello
[05:15] <mrzippy_> I'd like to know if I can use the same session between severals computer with nxfree or nomachine
[05:16] <DexterF> i guess if the versions match, yeah
[05:17] <mrzippy_> Dexter that answer is for me?
[05:22] <raymond> do you have to use ndiswrapper on Linksys WPC54G v2.0 wireless cards in Feisty?
[05:23] <raymond> according to the list on the ndiswrapper homepage you havent had to since dapper, but mine doesnt work
[05:28] <jovans> hi@all
[05:28] <raymond> i think everyone went to sleep
[05:29] <titanix88_> jovans: hello.
[05:29] <jovans> ;)
[05:29] <raymond> i stand corrected
[05:38] <titanix88_> everyone silent, why?
[05:38] <[-frost-] `linux> no problems?
[05:38] <[-frost-] `linux> :-P
[05:40] <titanix88_> [-frost-] `linux : linux finally got friendly to everyone, so nobody needs support channels. :)
[05:40] <photon> hehe
[05:40] <titanix88_> err, GNU/Linux :)
[05:41] <drblood> does n e one here play warcraft 3 i need help
[05:41] <drblood> its a game that requires a disc
[05:41] <drblood> can i install it?
[05:41] <imagine> Hi! I'm having quite a big issue with my soundcard, I tried compiling a svn of alsa but now my laptop can't find any mixer, I'm wondering what I could do to finally make my sound to work
[05:42] <titanix88_> drblood: i remember u. wb.
[05:42] <drblood> :D
[05:42] <Dragnslcr> drblood- yes, Warcraft III works with Wine
[05:42] <drblood> have u tried it O_O
[05:42] <Dragnslcr> The audio doesn't sync very well though
[05:43] <cashvalentine^^> wtf?: "Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL"
[05:43] <cashvalentine^^> anybody??? >> "Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL"
[05:44] <reptile> hi all ^^
[05:44] <drblood> dragn
[05:44] <drblood> i put in wc disc
[05:44] <drblood> and kde daemon came up saying
[05:44] <drblood> open in new window
[05:44] <drblood> copy cd with w3b
[05:44] <drblood> and do nothing
[05:44] <drblood> wat should i choose
[05:45] <reptile> kennt sich hier jemand mit umts karten aus und wie ich denen at befehle sende bzw. die ini nder ?
[05:45] <titanix88_> drblood: open in new window.
[05:45] <mc__> reptile: this channel is english only
[05:45] <drblood> kay
[05:45] <mc__> !de
[05:45] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:45] <reptile> kk
[05:45] <titanix88_> drblood: open the setup exe with wine.
[05:45] <reptile> thx
[05:45] <reptile> ^
[05:45] <mc__> no problem
[05:46] <mc__> "Kanaelen" omfg,some words should not be translated
[05:46] <drblood> now it comes to the wc folder
[05:46] <drblood> there is a installer
[05:46] <drblood> wat do i open it with
[05:46] <drblood> O_o
[05:46] <titanix88_> drblood: click on it.
[05:46] <drblood> it says open with:
[05:46] <drblood> i need to use a program to open it >.>
[05:47] <titanix88_> drblood: select "wine"
[05:47] <jovans> yes a strawberry wine
[05:47] <jovans> hm
[05:47] <cashvalentine^^> anybody know wtf this is  --->> "Device to unmount is not in /media/.hal-mtab so it is not mounted by HAL"
[05:47] <mads-> trying to build a project in kdevelop for the first and get the error : "make: aclocal: Command not found". I can compile the program with "g++ foo.cpp -o foo" without erorr though
[05:47] <titanix88_> drblood: use custom command "wine"
[05:47] <mads-> what am I doing wrong?
[05:48] <drblood> ?
[05:48] <drblood> wine config or wine reg edit
[05:48] <Andrew``> ok its telling me my su password is wrong  but i havent changed it
[05:48] <titanix88_> drblood: just "wine"
[05:48] <drblood> and where is that
[05:48] <drblood> nevermind
[05:48] <drblood> :)
[05:49] <titanix88_> mads- : have make installed?
[05:49] <Andrew``> can anyone help me on this?
[05:50] <mads-> Think so - when I type "ma" in terminal and try tap to auto-complete "make" is on the list of auto-completes
[05:50] <[-frost-] `linux> how do I exactly make wine work?
[05:50] <titanix88_> mads-: then i can't help. try kdevelops help.
[05:51] <Andrew``> anyone help me please?
[05:53] <|lostbyte|> Andrew``, what is telling you your su command is wronge ?
[05:53] <Andrew``> terminal
[05:53] <Andrew``> I am the only user
[05:53] <Andrew``> su: Authentication failure
[05:53] <Andrew``> Sorry.
[05:53] <tapas> on kubuntu: who does the mounting of usb-storage devices
[05:53] <tapas> some udev rule or kde?
[05:54] <Andrew``> does that mean I have to re-install kubuntu?
[05:55] <tapas> Andrew``: what are you trying to do?
[05:55] <drblood> hmmm
[05:55] <Andrew``> trying to install nvidia drivers
[05:55] <drblood> i have a 3rd party for warcraft III
[05:55] <tapas> [sually everything can be fixed by booting into single user mode] 
[05:55] <drblood> can i use that through wine too O_o
[05:55] <tapas> Andrew``: what do you need su for then?
[05:55] <tapas> Andrew``: you should use sudo rather
[05:56] <boss> hi all
[05:57] <boss> does anybody have a *generic* /etc/apt/sources.list file? I have some problems with the repos, and I would like to fall-back to the generic sourcess.list file
[05:57] <Andrew``> so instead of sh NVid.... I should type sudo NVid....???
[05:59] <BluesKaj> hmmm , no joebtfsplk here ?
[05:59] <icecruncher> ar ther any faster ide's other than eclipse for javva?
[05:59] <tapas> Andrew``: hmm? just install the nvidia driver package
[06:01] <Jazon_> so i got my usb wifi to work with ndiswrapper, but now the sound system is broke.  :'(
[06:02] <Jazon_> maybe a reboot is in order :P
[06:02] <Jazon_> brb
[06:02] <BluesKaj> ati ixp modem/soundcard , Jazon
[06:02] <BluesKaj> ?
[06:03] <Jazon> BluesKaj: will check one sec
[06:04] <asfak> any help on how to create local repo on my hard disk
[06:04] <Andrew``> should the admin show up in User Management?
[06:07] <BluesKaj> asfak, you already have one included with the OS disk , and the repositories addresses are already present in  /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:07] <jacques_> I just bought a wireless router. I have some problems to set it up
[06:07] <jacques_> can someone give me a hand
[06:07] <BluesKaj> !wireless | jacques_
[06:07] <ubotu> jacques_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:09] <timmay> anyone have issues with KRDC when you connect to a remote desktop, close out the connect to leave yourself logged on and then it hangs when you try to remote into the computer again?
[06:09] <BluesKaj> asfak:  you can add repositories to adept and synaptic by editing the sources.list directly by copy and paste
[06:10] <BluesKaj> !repositories | asfak
[06:10] <ubotu> asfak: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:10] <njt88> 00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2)
[06:11] <njt88> BluesKaj: ^^^  thats the sound card that quit working when i put in ndiswrapper
[06:11] <cashvalentine^^> This is crap: device /dev/scd0 was not mounted by you
[06:12] <cashvalentine^^> why does kubuntu throw up these asinine errors?
[06:12] <BluesKaj> njt88: does that card also have the modem ?
[06:12] <cashvalentine^^> kubuntu should get the dvd burning permissions right
[06:13] <asfak> no, what i want is to take all deb files from /var/cache/apt and take them to another pc and want them installed there. new pc does not have internet
[06:13] <cashvalentine^^> so people dont spend days trying to figure out how to unmount a dvd
[06:13] <timmay> anyone know a better remote desktop connection other than KRDC?
[06:13] <cashvalentine^^> it suck REAL bad
[06:13] <cashvalentine^^> what gives with the damn quality control lately
[06:13] <njt88> not a clue BluesKaj how do i tell?
[06:13] <cashvalentine^^> who the hell do you send a message to, to get this fixed
[06:14] <cashvalentine^^> come people-- I cannot even eject a damn dvd without getting "device /dev/scd0 was not mounted by you"
[06:14] <cashvalentine^^> what the hell is that?
[06:14] <njt88> BluesKaj: there is no modem.....
[06:14] <asfak> ubotu, can you help here ?
[06:15] <BluesKaj> ok, then I have no clue , why njt88 ..sorry, perhaps somebody else can help :(
[06:15] <athlon64_> Ive dona something with xorg.conf and keyboard layouts disappeared. Do you know how i fix it?
[06:16] <njt88> :-(     ok.  its all on the asus motherboard.  no card
[06:16] <njt88> BluesKaj: does ^^^ make a difference?#
[06:18] <raymond> my wireless card refuses to show up as wlan0 keeps showing up as eth1
[06:19] <llutz> raymond: don't worry if it works, only names....
[06:20] <zarate> alguien sabe espaol
[06:20] <tapas> raymond: yeah, as llutz said. each netowrk driver i think provides its own basename
[06:20] <Darth_Homey> hello people
[06:20] <tapas> [and the kernel then adds numbers if the name already exists] 
[06:21] <Jucato> !es | zarate
[06:21] <ubotu> zarate: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[06:21] <BluesKaj> asfak:  then you have to DL the programs you want to your HDD and burn them to a disk
[06:28] <soulrider_> hello everyone, whats up ?
[06:29] <BluesKaj> hey soulrider ...trying out the opera embedded chat client ...kind of interesting
[06:30] <raymond> ITS NOT WORKING THOUGH :(
[06:30] <raymond> oops caps lock
[06:30] <raymond> sorry
[06:32] <soulrider> BluesKaj: opera rocks
[06:32] <soulrider> but i hate how it tries to open all torrents
[06:33] <soulrider> you cant disable the built in bt client AFAIK
[06:34] <athlon64_> Do u know why there are no available keyboard layouts at localalizations?
[06:35] <soulrider> athlon64_: in KDE you can select the keyboard layout
[06:36] <athlon64_> But there are no available layouts
[06:37] <_Ace2016_> Hi all
[06:37] <_Ace2016_> anyone here running vmware server?
[06:37] <BluesKaj> found some thing that can defeat the annoying capslock problem go to sys/settings/region&language/keyboard layout/Xkb options/ scroll down to ctrl key positions , enable the "make capslock an additional control" button.
[06:37] <_Ace2016_> maybe they should call it vmserver instead of vmware server
[06:37] <_Ace2016_> is there a simple view for vmware server?
[06:38] <BluesKaj> athlon64_:  it's under country /region & languge , in sys/settings
[06:46] <decapitated> Hello
[06:47] <Panda200x> hello
[06:56] <Pathum> can anyone help me with Kopete?
[06:56] <DECAPITATED> Maybe
[06:56] <DECAPITATED> Whats the problem?
[06:56] <Pathum> K well i can't get the Yahoo rooms list
[06:56] <Pathum> actually i don't know how to
[06:56] <Pathum> I did it in Gaim
[06:56] <DECAPITATED> Im sorry cant help you there
[06:57] <Pathum> k
[06:57] <DECAPITATED> i dont have Yahoo
[06:57] <Jucato> Kopete doesn't support Yahoo chatrooms yet.
[06:57] <Pathum> too
[06:57] <easytiger> does anyone use Yahoo these days
[06:57] <Jucato> Pathum: try asking in #kopete to verify
[06:57] <Pathum>  ba
[06:57] <Pathum> thanz
[06:57] <Pathum> thanx
[06:57] <easytiger> Ya Who?
[07:00] <BluesKaj> the new MSN chat supports yahoo, but not sure about AMSN
[07:01] <BluesKaj> wanna yahoo, yer restricted to windoze...I think
[07:02] <Jucato> or Pidgin
[07:02] <njt88> any ideas as to why my domain name server keeps changing to 192.168.xxx.x  when i have it set to 192.168.1.1 ???
[07:02] <njt88> and then i lose dns ability and have to go set it again
[07:03] <hangthedj> yahoo makes a linux version.  it just doesn't support chat rooms.
[07:03] <BluesKaj> Jucato, this opera irc client seems quite cool actually ... a little clunky and unintuative to set up but the results work fine
[07:09] <AleRitty> hi at all
[07:12] <os2mac> what is a good wifi scanner available in Kubuntu?
[07:15] <BluesKaj> os2mac, my HP3500 series scanner works ok
[07:17] <llutz> os2mac: kismet
[07:35] <Darkkish> what is a good AIM/MSN client besieds Kopete?
[07:39] <MinceR> bitlbee
[07:40] <Darkkish> crap lol
[07:40] <Jack3> how do i start katapult
[07:40] <BluesKaj> alt+spcebar
[07:40] <Jack3>  im doing hat
[07:41] <Jack3> it doesnt start
[07:41] <Jack3> but i can start it by going to startmenu
[07:41] <Darkkish> whats katapault?
[07:41] <MaTiAz> Darkkish: It's some launcher
[07:41] <MaTiAz> How do I get rid of katapult? It's annoying :|
[07:41] <Darkkish> Jack3 you don't see anything when you do alt spacebar?
[07:41] <Jack3> katapult is awesome
[07:41] <Jack3> no darkkish
[07:47] <tuco> Hello all. The question of the day is: Can I use Beryl with my ATI X1400 at all or not? I reall want to try if it's possible.
[07:48] <rdallarmi> hi,does  anybody in here know how to make the authdeamond socket available to a chrooted postfix  for sasl authentication?
[07:48] <Zeelot> hello
[07:49] <zack> hello
[07:49] <Zeelot> how can I add shortcuts to my hdds on my desktop?
[07:50] <zack> i know no way to. let me look around for a sec.
[07:51] <snowdonkey> Hi.  I downloaded Firefox 2 from the website into a folder in /opt.  I just installed Firefox 1.5 from the repositories and it imported my bookmarks and add-ons.  I'm curious to know how that happened
[07:51] <Zeelot> only thing on my desktop is cdrom0 that came up automatically
[07:51] <Darkkish> what is a good AIM/MSN client aside from Kopete and Gaim
[07:52] <Jack3> id assume right clickcreateshort cut and point toward /mnt/cdrom0 or /mnt/cdrom
[07:52] <Jack3> whatever it is
[07:53] <Jack3> oops, not cdrom, /mount/sda4 etc
[07:53] <Darkkish> how do i Install those mp3 codecs?
[07:53] <Zeelot> there is no createshortcut?
[07:54] <snowdonkey> Darkkish install libxine-extracodecs
[07:55] <Darkkish> snowdonkey:  thanks
[08:03] <smitht> having a nightmare with kdevelop, kde helpcentre and htdig
[08:03] <smitht> haylp!
[08:08] <Darkkish> why does it say "Flashplugin-nonfree"
[08:14] <jrick> i have a problem with Kaffine
[08:15] <jrick> everytime i play a video, like an ogg/theora, all the colors are wrong
[08:15] <blekos> hi, is it possible to assign a button to the "eject" commnad?
[08:15] <jrick> everything is in purple or green tones
[08:16] <jrick> i never used to have this problem with totem
[08:16] <jrick> (on gnome)
[08:20] <BluesKaj> jrick: open kaffeine/settings/player engine , choose kaffeine-xine
[08:21] <jrick> BluesKaj: no it's still wrong
[08:22] <jrick> ok, playing around with the settings, i clicked the embedded mplayer button.  Now there's no video at all.
[08:22] <BluesKaj> ok, looks like you may have to reconfigure X , if you havent's setup your driver configuration already in sys/settings/monitor&display
[08:23] <jrick> i think one of the problems may be that i run kubuntu in a virtual machine in VMware
[08:23] <payam> hi
[08:23] <jrick> and so drivers are not the same
[08:24] <payam> Does anybody know Rihanna?
[08:24] <hangthedj> jrick: if you can find the xine configuration tab, choose video and change the driver that xine uses.
[08:24] <payam> #kubuntu-se
[08:25] <BluesKaj> jrick:  just reconfigging the proper driver in monitor and display may fix it
[08:25] <jrick> well i'm not getting any video now
[08:27] <animimotus> hi ladies and gentlemen
[08:28] <jrick> how can i configure kaffine to use gstreamer?
[08:28] <BluesKaj> jrick, or you can take the long route , ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg '
[08:28] <animimotus> someone use a good SIP client in QT ? Like Ekiga
[08:28] <jrick> i've already done that
[08:28] <jrick> i don't like using vmware tools to make the res right
[08:28] <hangthedj> you should be able to just install the gstreamer plugins and then it should be an option.
[08:29] <jrick> i have gstreamer installed (because totem runs)
[08:29] <jrick> but it's not an option
[08:36] <BluesKaj> jrick:  so you don't you see your driver listed in sys/settingsmonitor/hardware ?
[08:36] <jrick> let me check
[08:36] <LPhas> hi guys, i've a problem with ndiswrapper and kubuntu, someone could please help?
[08:37] <BluesKaj> !ndiswrapper
[08:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:37] <jrick> my driver is vesa
[08:38] <BluesKaj> jrick:  that's the generic default kubuntu driver
[08:38] <jrick> ok
[08:39] <BluesKaj> look for your graphics card make & model in that list
[08:40] <jrick> what would my card be (because this is a virtual machine)
[08:40] <LPhas> BluesKaj: i checked a lot of docs, the problem is subtle
[08:41] <jrick> would it be vmware?
[08:41] <LPhas> BluesKaj: i have a builtin rtl8187, i disabled the proper module (which doesn't work) but still ndiswrapper says that there's an alternate driver
[08:43] <jrick> i don't like messing with hardware and drivers in a virtual machine because there really isn't any of them anyway
[08:43] <BluesKaj> LPhas: my wireless knowledge is less than helpul in your situation ... sorry :(
[08:43] <Azhi_Ubuntu> hi
[08:43] <flyertanks> alguem pode me ajudar
[08:43] <Azhi_Ubuntu> is this maintained by the same ppl of ubuntu
[08:43] <flyertanks> algum brasileiro
[08:44] <BluesKaj> not a fan of vM stuff ...I can never seem to get it to work right anyway :)
[08:44] <jrick> do i have to restart x now that i've changed drivers?
[08:44] <flyertanks> to repcisando de uma ajuda no kubuntu
[08:44] <flyertanks> sobre kde
[08:44] <BluesKaj> !pt | flyertanks
[08:44] <ubotu> flyertanks: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[08:45] <marko> i have problems with the nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new drivers
[08:45] <BluesKaj> jrick, yes or relogin
[08:45] <jrick> k
[08:48] <jrick> no, it's still not working
[08:48] <jrick> everything is still green or purple
[08:50] <BluesKaj> which drivers did you install, jrick?
[08:51] <jrick> it's using the vmware driver now
[08:51] <frank__> Hi all, got KDE Desktop 3.5.6 on Ubuntu, see that there is a update to 3.5.7, new to this how can i update to 3.5.7 desktop only??
[08:51] <BluesKaj> jrick, so you are running kubuntu under winbdows
[08:51] <jrick> yes
[08:52] <jrick> my dad won't let me create a new partition
[08:52] <jrick> frank__: go to http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php and follow the instructions
[08:53] <jrick> frank__: it will make you update your repos
[08:53] <jrick> frank__: and then update your entire system
[08:53] <jrick> open Adept
[08:53] <BluesKaj> wellnow , running VMware is more dangerous to windows than having a separate Linux partition ...I don' t get the logic
[08:53] <Panda200x> hey
[08:54] <BluesKaj> I have a dual boot setup and it works well
[08:54] <jrick> frank__: open adept manager and add one of those lines into the repositories
[08:54] <jrick> BluesKaj: I really want to, but i'm not allowed.  This is the next best thing
[08:55] <jrick> BluesKaj: one other disadvantage is that i can't run AIGLX with compiz/beryl
[08:55] <jrick> other than that, virtual machines are sweet and work great
[08:55] <BluesKaj> maybe a total update and upgrade is in order for your distro , jrick
[08:56] <jrick> what do you mean?
[08:56] <jrick> i've sudo apt-get update and updated already
[08:56] <SunStealth> Yes, the safest way to run windows, is through vmware in linux. And it is easy to do backups with vmware for your guest os, at least with vmware workstation.
[08:56] <jrick> upgraded
[08:56] <BluesKaj> beryl is just window dressing ...it has a cool factor , but it wears off real quick
[08:56] <SunStealth> all linux distros except for lindows...
[08:57] <jrick> SunStealth: i've gotten every distro i've tried to work except simplyMempis
[08:57] <BluesKaj> SunStealth:  he's running vmware in windoze with linux as the guest OS
[08:57] <jrick> but i'm happy with kubuntu
[08:58] <SunStealth> ehh... thats not safe.
[08:58] <SunStealth> Well well, the sooner you get over to linux, the better and safer it is :)
[08:58] <jrick> i really want to
[08:58] <SunStealth> Have you tryed dual boot?
[08:58] <jrick> i know how, but i'm not allowed to mess with partitioning
[08:58] <BluesKaj> yeah , exactly but his dad won't let him partition the drive to accomodate a real linux setup
[08:58] <SunStealth> ok...
[08:58] <jrick> this isn't MY computer
[08:58] <frank__> jrick: thanks it worked
[08:58] <SunStealth> I c
[08:59] <jrick> frank__: np
[08:59] <SunStealth> Alright, well. I would try to get a pretty cheap computer if I were you, jrick. distros like kubuntu dont take much computer power
[09:00] <jrick> i know i should, but i don't feel like it or have room for another box
[09:00] <BluesKaj> SunStealth:  not if he wants beryl
[09:01] <jrick> well the transperencies in kwin work fine
[09:01] <mitch_> that's right i'm running kubuntu on a pentium III with 700MHz
[09:01] <jrick> i little slow, but they do work
[09:01] <jrick> i'm running them now
[09:01] <jrick> shadows and all
[09:01] <jrick> but AIGLX and XGL won't run
[09:01] <jrick> (but i don't need help, i'm fine with kwin)
[09:03] <Noldoaran> my systemsettings program is broken. It crashes if I load systemsettings, and if i load control:/ in konqueror it only shows Peripherals/OBEX Devices .. any idea how to fix it?
[09:05] <jrick> Noldoaran: if you need to configure something try running the command kcontrol from a terminal
[09:07] <jrick> does anyone know the command to open the kubuntu system settings? maybe if it was run from a konsole some debugging info could be gathered.
[09:07] <Noldoaran> jrick: in the left pane I only have Network and Peripherals/OBEX Devices if i do that
[09:07] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[09:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[09:07] <Darkkish> how do I open konq via console?
[09:07] <jrick> konqueror
[09:08] <BluesKaj> systemsettings in the terminal
[09:08] <jrick> Noldoaran: type systemsettings into a konsole
[09:08] <Noldoaran> jrick: here's the output when I ran kcontrol in konsole "kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/"
[09:09] <jrick> hmmmmm, not sure
[09:09] <jrick> maybe someone else could help
[09:09] <Noldoaran> jrick: if i type systemsettings it crashes
[09:09] <BluesKaj> Noldoaran: sudo apt-get install kubuntu desktop
[09:09] <BluesKaj> Noldoaran: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:10] <BluesKaj> ignore the firstone
[09:11] <Mach3> im trying to mount my windows drive(s) so i can access my files from linux.  im using the ntfs-3g driver and config tool.  For reference, i have windows on a 2disk raid0 array, and linux on a separate 3rd drive.  I think the problem is that my windows 'drive' is really 2 drives in raid 0.  When i run fdisk -l it shows both individual disks, but not one that represents the raid.  So every time i try to mount sda1 (the first drive in the raid0 array) i 
[09:11] <jrick> BluesKaj: if it's already installed, just broken, would that fix it?
[09:11] <jrick> or would you need to uninstall systemsettings and then reinstall
[09:12] <BluesKaj> yes it should
[09:12] <Noldoaran> BluesKaj: didn't fix it
[09:12] <jrick> Noldoaran: try sudo apt-get remove systemsettings
[09:12] <BluesKaj> Noldoaran: you have reboot
[09:12] <BluesKaj> to
[09:13] <jrick> then sudo apt-get install systemsettings
[09:13] <jrick> (and reboot) then restart
[09:13] <BluesKaj> that should be part of the desktop pkg jrick
[09:13] <jrick> yeah, that makes sense
[09:14] <Noldoaran> jrick: no such package, it's called kde-systemsettings
[09:14] <BluesKaj> kubuntu-desktop is the barebones kde install
[09:14] <jrick> what kde are you running? if you are 3.5.6, upgrading might fix it
[09:15] <BluesKaj> just reboot
[09:15] <Darkkish> what is the equiv of ctrl+alt+del
[09:16] <jrick> Darkkish: are you looking for a task manager like app?
[09:16] <Darkkish> yeah
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[09:16] <Noldoaran> ksysguard
[09:16] <Darkkish> oops
[09:16] <BluesKaj> backspace
[09:17] <Darkkish> yeah old mistake/habit
[09:17] <BluesKaj> the Linux 3 finfer salute : ctrl+alt+backspace  :)
[09:18] <case_> how can i configure amarok to use my ipod?
[09:18] <BluesKaj> finfer
[09:18] <case_> it is mounted
[09:18] <jrick> not unless you want to log back in :)
[09:18] <LjL> BluesKaj: Linux? that's X.
[09:18] <case_> but i have problems with amarok
[09:18] <Noldoaran> BluesKaj, jrick: i'm rebooting, brb
[09:18] <BluesKaj> what is a finfer ...it's a missing finger
[09:18] <BluesKaj> relogin
[09:19] <jrick> yeah, the same key combo will do the same on bsd
[09:19] <jrick> ...and the like
[09:19] <jrick> its not linux
[09:19] <BluesKaj> LjL:  yes , it works tho
[09:19] <ubuntu_> \list
[09:20] <jrick> case_: don't have an ipod, so can't help. (i will not support drm)
[09:20] <case_> :(
[09:20] <BluesKaj> ok , i tried bsd once ...total boring OS :)
[09:20] <jrick> wow, that came off harsh
[09:20] <LjL> BluesKaj: depends what you want to do. the "three finger salute" in Windows currently doesn't restart anything, it just brings up a dialog. ctrl+alt+backspace, on the other hand, restarts X. also, there *is* normally ctrl+alt+del configured in Linux, and what it does is restart the system.
[09:20] <jrick> i meant that i will not buy one
[09:20] <LjL> so the closest to Windows 9x style three finger salute is... just ctrl+alt+del.
[09:20] <jrick> not not help you
[09:21] <BluesKaj> yes LjL , but that works if your at a TTY , otherwise it's arelogin when your on X
[09:22] <LjL> BluesKaj: except on current KDE on Kubuntu, Ctrl+Alt+Del pops up a shutdown dialog, not too dissimilarly from what Windows NT would do :)
[09:23] <BluesKaj> ahha cool LjL , one learns something new everyday here :)
[09:24] <soulrider> !xorg
[09:24] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:24] <gilberto_> ola
[09:24] <BluesKaj> like this opera embedded irc chat client ...very nice so far
[09:24] <soulrider> !es | gilberto_
[09:24] <ubotu> gilberto_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:24] <Noldoaran> BluesKaj: didn't work
[09:24] <jrick> BluesKaj: i used to use opera like all the time, but now i use konq
[09:25] <andrzej> i prefer firefox
[09:25] <jrick> it fits in better with kde.  i don't like non-kde apps.
[09:25] <ubuntu_> opssssssssss
[09:25] <redbull00> bye
[09:26] <virusa> hello guys
[09:26] <freeman163> ello
[09:26] <Graham> KTorrent sucks ass.
[09:26] <virusa> hi all from georgia :)
[09:26] <BluesKaj> bummer Noldoaran, maybe this will solve it ; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:27] <virusa> can anyone help me with ubuntu ?
[09:27] <Graham> I leave it on and it crashes while I'm away, so now I'm waiting another 2 hours for my download.
[09:27] <virusa> i'm a newby in ubuntu
[09:27] <Graham> Sod it!
[09:27] <Graham> virusa: See #ubuntu
[09:27] <virusa> ok
[09:27] <virusa> thx
[09:27] <Graham> This is Kubuntu
[09:27] <virusa> sorry
[09:27] <Darkkish> how do i change my default browser to Firefox
[09:27] <Noldoaran> BluesKaj: I'm pretty sure I'm up to date, but I'll try it
[09:27] <Darkkish> I've tried doing it from inside firefox, but that doesn't work
[09:27] <BluesKaj> Graham: you have to go to the ktorrrent site and DL and install the bugfree upgraded version
[09:28] <Graham> Darkkish: System Settings > Default aplications
[09:28] <Darkkish> thanks Graham
[09:29] <llp78> Graham ktorrent is actually very good - just as good as the others - i can max out usng ktorrent
[09:29] <Graham> I know, but lately it just keeps crashing.
[09:29] <Graham> I left it on overnight for a large download, woke up in the morning it'd crashed and it wasn't even half done!
[09:29] <llp78> Graham odd never once crashed here
[09:30] <Noldoaran> BluesKaj: yeah I'm all up to date:
[09:30] <Noldoaran> Sysinfo for 'tiger': Linux 2.6.20-16-generic running KDE 3.5.7, CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.80GHz at 2801 MHz (5601 bogomips), HD: 35/228GB, RAM: 475/1002MB, 125 proc's, 10.13min up
[09:30] <Graham> Before that I'd of said it was awesome, only thing I'd like is the ability to see files in an archive.
[09:32] <llp78> Graham what connection you on ?
[09:32] <llp78> what speed
[09:32] <BluesKaj> Graham: are you using the feisty ktorrent default version ?
[09:32] <llp78> i am
[09:32] <Graham> 2.1
[09:33] <llp78> 2.14
[09:33] <Graham> Soz mr. specific.
[09:33] <BluesKaj> 2.14 is the stable version
[09:33] <llp78> nah thats what im running
[09:33] <jrick> it looks like the 2.1.4 and 2.2beta1 debs are down
[09:33] <jrick> i can't download them
[09:33] <jrick> i've had the same problem with ktorrent
[09:33] <llp78> what version??
[09:33] <jrick> 2.1
[09:34] <llp78> not 2.14 ?
[09:34] <jrick> no. i can't download them, the site is down
[09:34] <jrick> (for the debs)
[09:34] <BluesKaj> latest stable version : http://ktorrent.org/
[09:34] <llp78> just change the repo site and grab it from a mirroe
[09:34] <Graham> Really is rediculous how outdated the packages are.
[09:35] <titanix88_> anyone around use blender?
[09:35] <Graham> titanix88_: When I make tomato sauce
[09:35] <Darkkish> why is the Mozilla Thunderbird in the repository version 1.5.*?
[09:35] <jrick> what is new/good about 2.2?
[09:35] <Graham> Darkkish: Because whoever is incharge of updating that package is a lazy swine.
[09:35] <titanix88_> Graham: no, not u again. I mean blender 3d :(
[09:35] <Darkkish> grr
[09:36] <jrick> nvm, i see it on the howe page
[09:36] <jrick> home
[09:36] <Graham> titanix88_: It is 3d
[09:36] <BluesKaj> yup jrick , the site for feisty version of ktorrent is down
[09:37] <jrick> anyone know of a mirror?
[09:37] <BluesKaj> looking
[09:37] <llp78> theres mirros all over the world - just because one site is down does not mean you cannot get it!
[09:37] <titanix88_> Graham: u damn pure british >(
[09:37] <jrick> do i have to install the deb to install the source?
[09:37] <jrick> *uninstall
[09:38] <Graham> titanix88_: As opposed to half asian?
[09:38] <SlimeyPete> jrick: it's best to do so
[09:38] <BluesKaj> llp78:  have a got a mirror for us ?
[09:38] <SlimeyPete> if you don't, then a future ubuntu update might overwrite your compiled version with the standard ubuntu version again
[09:38] <Graham> jrick: Yeah otherwise apt will be like wtf?!?
[09:38] <jrick> those 2.2 features look nice
[09:39] <titanix88_> Graham: Go ahead and call PriceChild to call me to take this discussion to offtopic. >(
[09:39] <llp78> just load adept manager and change default location - hence changing respo
[09:39] <Graham> titanix88_: May I ask what the hell you're talking about?
[09:39] <BluesKaj> hehe
[09:40] <Graham> titanix88_: You make about as much sense as a DVD rewinder.
[09:40] <titanix88_> Graham: You're friend PriceChild kicked my but yesterday, remember!!! >(
[09:40] <BluesKaj> Graham:  pls no insults here
[09:41] <BudgetDedicated> how do i convert from one charset to the other?
[09:41] <jrick> well, gtg
[09:41] <Graham> titanix88_: First of all no I don't remember, second of all he's not my friend, and third of all, lol.
[09:41] <BudgetDedicated> sorry wrong changel
[09:41] <BluesKaj> we' re here to help and be helped ...at least I am
[09:42] <Darkkish> How do I run sh
[09:45] <MaTiAz> Darkkish: a .sh file? write ./name.sh to terminal
[09:45] <MaTiAz> And replace the name with the filename of course
[09:46] <Darkkish> run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute .
[09:47] <Darkkish> MaTiAz: run-mozilla.sh: Cannot execute .
[09:48] <Noldoaran> Darkkish: chmod u+x run-mozilla.sh
[09:48] <Noldoaran> then try again
[09:49] <titanix88_> BluesKaj: me here for disscusion too. Graham just irritates me for using shorthands like u(You) :(
[09:49] <Noldoaran> er.. do 'chmod a+x run-mozilla.sh' instead
[09:49] <Darkkish> k
[09:49] <Graham> titanix88_: I'd like you to seriously shut the fuck up.
[09:50] <BluesKaj> latest snapshots at svn  http://ktorrent.org/downloads/svn-snapshots/
[09:50] <Darkkish> still getting smathing
[09:50] <Darkkish> samething*
[09:51] <_Codeman_> I'm having trouble with internet connection sharing, I've already set it up in iptables but it doesn't seem to be working :/
[09:51] <titanix88_> Graham: u said that word that day & i tried to pass that to <ubotu> then someone (PriceChild) blamed me for language & got op & kicked me .REMEMBER?? >(
[09:51] <Noldoaran> Darkkish: try 'sh run-mozilla.sh'
[09:52] <LjL> !offtopic | titanix88_, Graham
[09:52] <ubotu> titanix88_, Graham: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[09:52] <marko> anoyone have expirenced non working nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new in kubuntu ?
[09:52] <Darkkish> same thing
[09:52] <titanix88_> LjL: alright it's over .U shutup!!!
[09:52] <Graham> titanix88_: No, and quite frankly I don't care!
[09:52] <vit_> hola desde venezuela
[09:53] <LjL> !es | vit_
[09:53] <ubotu> vit_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[09:53] <LjL> titanix88_: telling me to shut up won't help, either
[09:53] <virusc> hi alll
[09:53] <vit_> hola como estan?
[09:53] <BluesKaj> Graham:  http://ktorrent.org/downloads/svn-snapshots/ , you can DL the latest ktorrent from there
[09:53] <titanix88_> LjL: forget it,then!
[09:53] <Graham> vit_: no
[09:53] <Darkkish> vit_: #kubntu-es
[09:53] <Darkkish> er
[09:53] <Darkkish> vit_: #kubuntu-es *
[09:54] <vit_> all right,thank you..
[09:54] <Darkkish> lol
[09:54] <pitecantropus> I made a fresh install of Feisty, preserving my old /home directory. After reboot, the whole content dissapeared, althought I can see that is not empty. Any ideeas?
[09:55] <Graham> BluesKaj: I try to avoid compiling from source.
[09:55] <Noldoaran> pitecantropus: what do you mean it dissappeared, but you can see it's not empty? can you see it or not?
[09:56] <Darkkish> so my install still isn't working
[09:57] <pitecantropus> with "df" command I see the size of it, but I can`t see in Konqueror
[09:57] <Noldoaran> pitecantropus: can you see the contents with ls?
[09:58] <pitecantropus> nope :(
[09:58] <titanix88_> BluesKaj: what's ur problem?
[09:58] <Noldoaran> huh
[09:59] <pitecantropus> when I try to mount partitions, appears that is already mounted and OK
[09:59] <pitecantropus> but can`t acces anything in /home
[09:59] <payam> sweden vann
[09:59] <payam> Sweden3-Ddenmark0
[09:59] <pitecantropus> even the new user that I created
[10:01] <Noldoaran> pitecantropus: paste you df output here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[10:02] <_Codeman_> can anyone help me troubleshoot my internet connection sharing issues?
[10:03] <pitecantropus> have to change internet conection, it will take a while :)
[10:03] <Noldoaran> ok
[10:03] <BluesKaj> titanix88_: ?
[10:03] <Noldoaran> pitecantropus: what is your working directory? are you in your home directory
[10:03] <Noldoaran> ?
[10:04] <_Codeman_> It hasn't worked in roughly 12 hours :?
[10:04] <_Codeman_> :/*
[10:04] <pitecantropus> now i`m on another computer
[10:04] <Noldoaran> oh
[10:04] <pitecantropus> I can log only as root
[10:05] <pitecantropus> not normal isn`t?
[10:05] <Noldoaran> ohh.. what does it say if you try to log in as the other user?
[10:05] <Noldoaran> pitecantropus: no not normal
[10:05] <payam> I need a good dictionary fr my linux
[10:06] <payam> Do you know some?
[10:06] <pitecantropus> nothing, just few seconds a black screen and after that again log menu
[10:06] <serginho_> login for root?
[10:08] <Moduliz0r> anyone know how I can play DivX Stage6 movies in Ubuntu?
[10:10] <federico> Tokj
[10:10] <federico> ci sei?
[10:10] <BluesKaj> !codecs
[10:11] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:11] <Noldoaran> pitecantropus: what if you do 'su -l username'?
[10:11] <federico> scusate ragazzi ho un problema
[10:11] <federico> a chi posso chiedere aiuto?
[10:11] <federico> naturalmente riguarda la ubuntu
[10:11] <federico> Ho installato amule sulla kubuntu ma ora mi da un errore e non riesco a farlo eseguire
[10:12] <BluesKaj> !it | federico
[10:12] <ubotu> federico: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:12] <federico> quando disinstallo e reinstallo mi rid lo stesso errore
[10:12] <federico> ops
[10:12] <federico> scusate
[10:12] <federico> e dove posso parlare italiano?
[10:12] <federico> Where I can speak italian?
[10:13] <federico> thank you
[10:13] <Darkkish> ohhh
[10:13] <Darkkish> I got it
[10:13] <Darkkish> i had to install libstdc++5 and then do ./thunderbird
[10:15] <serginho_> opa valeu
[10:16] <Noldoaran> Darkkish: I'm glad you figgured it out
[10:16] <rdallarmi> hi, I am running postfix chrooted and I am trying to do sasl authentication using authdeamond. I am getting the error: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to Courier authdaemond: No such file or directory. Authdeamond socket is (ubuntu) in /var/run/courier/authdeamond/socket I granted rwx permission trough all that path and linked /car/run/courier/authdeamond to /var/spool/postfix and specified
[10:16] <rdallarmi> authdaemond_path: /authdaemon/socket in smtpd.conf, but I got that error. It is bvious I am doing something wrong. Anybody has any idea?
[10:18] <Darkkish> where is the task manager
[10:18] <Noldoaran> pitecantropus: did you try 'su -l  username'?
[10:19] <Noldoaran> Darkkish: [Kmenu] >System>KSysGuard
[10:22] <llp78> Noldoaran what?
[10:24] <Noldoaran> what??
[10:29] <Darkkish> why do .bins open with kate?
[10:30] <Noldoaran> Darkkish: what should they open with?
[10:30] <Darkkish> idk
[10:30] <Darkkish> i thought they were executable rpms
[10:31] <Darkkish> Man why do i have to install jre1.6 manually?
[10:31] <Darkkish> it should be in the repositories
[10:32] <Noldoaran> Darkkish: if the executable bit is set they should run themselves
[10:33] <Noldoaran> Darkkish: right click and select properties then permissions tab to see if it is executable
[10:33] <Darkkish> mm k thanks
[10:37] <animimotus> does exist a script or a application witch can do a window's screenshot with its scroll?
[10:37] <Darkkish> o_o
[10:38] <Darkkish> hmm
[10:40] <Noldoaran> Darkkish: the package in the repositories is sun-java6-jre
[10:40] <Noldoaran> animimotus: with its scroll? what do you mean?
[10:41] <Darkkish> Noldoaran:
[10:41] <Darkkish> what he wants is
[10:41] <Darkkish> a snapshot of the full contents of the window
[10:41] <Darkkish> for example if it has a scroll bar
[10:41] <Darkkish> he wants everything inside that pane
[10:42] <animimotus> Noldoaran: if the windows content is higher than the navigator's height, the script I reseach should do a copy/paste to have all in one file
[10:44] <Noldoaran> animimotus: never heard of any program that would do that.. what application are you taking a screenshot of?
[10:45] <animimotus> Noldoaran: ksnapshot do yet screenshot (snapshot)
[10:46] <Darkkish> -_-
[10:46] <Darkkish> Noldoaran: there is such a thing
[10:46] <Darkkish> i just don't know the linux equivalent
[10:48] <Noldoaran> ohh.. i see you want to take several screenshots of part of a window scrolled to a differnt point and put them together in on image. right??
[10:49] <Mach3> i dualboot windows and kubuntu.  everytime i boot ubuntu and then go back to windows, the time in windows is 4 or 5 hours off.  My time zone is set correctly in both OSs.  so, any ideas how to fix this?
[10:49] <animimotus> Noldoaran: yes, exactly
[10:51] <Noldoaran> Mach3: I bet linux is storing the time in bios as GMT, and windows is reading it as local time, but linux is converting it to local time.. there is a setting for this somewher, but I can't remember how to do it..
[10:52] <Mach3> Noldoaran: haha,that sounds reasonable... grr, maybe more googling will help
[10:52] <Noldoaran> animimotus: i don't know of anything that will do that automatically.. You could put it together in an image  editor..
[10:53] <animimotus> Noldoaran: this none free windows program do that http://dev3.com/administrator/index.php (sorry I have no free example)
[10:53] <animimotus> Noldoaran: it's a pitty, I doesn't program in python... :\
[10:54] <Noldoaran> Mach3: I wish I could be more help, but my kde control panel isn't working, so I can't look for the setting
[10:54] <Mach3> haha, thanks for the tip anyway
[10:55] <Noldoaran> animimotus: I get a 404 error when visiting that site
[10:56] <Darkkish> where is the xorg located/
[10:56] <OzZY85> I am trying to install Feisty AMD x64, and when i try to boot it, it gets stuck on configuring network interfaces
[10:56] <OzZY85> any suggestions?
[10:56] <animimotus> Noldoaran: sorry http://www.techsmith.com/snagit.asp
[10:59] <Noldoaran> animimotus: neat.. pretty much a screenshot program with an image editor built in
[11:01] <ubuntu_> ello
[11:02] <Darkkish> when i use find in the shell
[11:02] <Darkkish> how do i cancel it
[11:02] <Noldoaran> ctrl-C
[11:05] <flowingfire> Hello.  I was wondering if there was a guide to installing KBFX on Kubuntu.  I have tried several times on numerous installations, never successfully-- it installed, but wouldn't work.
[11:06] <bedin> alguem fala portugues ae?
[11:06] <busfahrer> Excuse me, I'm trying to install a mouse cursor theme via the KControl dialog. It is from kde-look.org. No matter if I select the containing .tar.bz2, the extracted dir, or one of the contained dirs, I get 'invalid mouse cursor archive'. I tried it with several different archives. Can it be that hard? :-)
[11:07] <flowingfire> :) Anybody here?
[11:07] <flowingfire> busfahrer: If you extract the archive, does it have a readme in it with special instructions?  Does it have a .sh file?
[11:08] <PhinnFort> !portugues
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about portugues - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <flowingfire> !KBFX
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kbfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <flowingfire> !anything
[11:08] <ubotu> So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.
[11:09] <PhinnFort> !info kbfx
[11:09] <ubotu> kbfx: an alternative to K-Menu for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.9.2~rc4-1 (feisty), package size 1268 kB, installed size 3748 kB
[11:09] <PhinnFort> kbfx sucks
[11:09] <animimotus> Noldoaran: sure but with imagemagic(?) / python we can add this feature that miss to ksnapshot I suppose?
[11:09] <PhinnFort> rather try tasty menu
[11:09] <flowingfire> Tasty menu is better?
[11:09] <flowingfire> never heartd of it.
[11:09] <PhinnFort> it takes the best from Suse's kickoff and kbfx
[11:09] <Noldoaran> animimotus: yeah i suppose
[11:10] <flowingfire> Really?  I like Suse's menu, so I probably would like tasty too then, huh?
[11:10] <flowingfire> the only reason I'm using Kubuntu instead of Suse is because I felt sick to my stomach using it after Microsoft's deal. lol
[11:11] <PhinnFort> flowingfire: same reason I didn't switch to opensuse;)
[11:11] <flowingfire> lol
[11:11] <PhinnFort> flowingfire: for a while I thought they maybe had fooled microsoft, but then they started coming with stupid excuses...
[11:12] <flowingfire> ohhhh - like with the whole GPL3 or whatever it is ?
[11:12] <Noldoaran> flowingfire: what is kbfx?
[11:12] <flowingfire> Noldoaran: It's a replacement for the K-menu in KDE/Kubuntu
[11:13] <Noldoaran> hmm.. ok
[11:13] <flowingfire> Noloaran: But Phin says "Tasty" is better
[11:13] <flowingfire> plus as hard as I try I can't get kbfx working lol.... But some of the themes look awesome!
[11:14] <PhinnFort> kbfx is buggy shiat;)
[11:17] <RytmenPinnen> hi I cant seem to figure out how to open 6881 on Firestarter
[11:18] <Darkkish> UT2004 wont' start -_-
[11:19] <RytmenPinnen> could someone help me, I've follewd a guide on firestarters homepage but I go no longer here :", right click on the list marked Forward service"
[11:20] <Darkkish> what is a good virtual clone drive?
[11:20] <PhinnFort> a dead virtual clone (drive)
[11:20] <dr_willis> Hmm.. I think puting  My laptop into Suspend to Disk mode.. then swaping out the 512mb ram for 2gb.. confused it. :)
[11:20] <dr_willis> it was all goofy tilli rebooted. heh heh.
[11:20] <PhinnFort> lol
[11:20] <dr_willis> Darkkish,  virtual clone drive?
[11:21] <PhinnFort> clones are bad
[11:21] <Darkkish> dr_willis: phake CD drive for mounting iso's
[11:21] <PhinnFort> haven't you seen Start Wars?
[11:21] <dr_willis> GOt me  2gb-o-ram now on the laptop
[11:21] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: look at acetoneiso at kde-apps.org
[11:21] <dr_willis> Darkkish,  you can easially mount .iso images
[11:21] <Darkkish> dr oh
[11:21] <Darkkish> lol
[11:21] <dr_willis> !iso
[11:21] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.
[11:21] <Darkkish> thanks
[11:21] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: it mounts stuff for you automatically
[11:21] <dr_willis> But dont expect that to fake out copy protection
[11:21] <Darkkish> k cool
[11:21] <Darkkish> I don't
[11:21] <Darkkish> I have the CD
[11:21] <Darkkish> It's just scratched up
[11:21] <dr_willis> linux has had this feature for.. err... YEARS :)
[11:22] <PhinnFort> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/AcetoneISO+?content=44805
[11:22] <Darkkish> i've not used linux enough to discover it
[11:22] <dr_willis> of course its not faking a cdrom drive. its just mounting a file that is a filesystem.  could be done with hard drive or floppy images as well
[11:22] <Darkkish> right
[11:22] <Darkkish> so how do i make a folder into an iso?
[11:23] <PhinnFort> growisofs?
[11:23] <dr_willis> this shows the linux mentality - build 'core features' that can be used  to add extra features. :)
[11:23] <PhinnFort> create iso-file, mount iso file as folder, move old folder into mounted folder
[11:23] <dr_willis> you may want to read up on the cd burning howto. I use k3b for my burning needs
[11:23] <Darkkish> PhinnFort: k
[11:23] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: one app per functionality, and do it good
[11:23] <JohnFlux> PhinnFort: I don't think you can do that, can you?
[11:23] <PhinnFort> dr_willis: unix mentality
[11:23] <dr_willis> PhinnFort,  Huh? writing to an iso file?
[11:23] <JohnFlux> Darkkish: you can just run k3b
[11:23] <dr_willis> kiso can some how do that. but not tried it.
[11:23] <PhinnFort> yeah, easier
[11:23] <Darkkish> er okay
[11:23] <JohnFlux> Darkkish: and add the folders you want to a new cdrom project
[11:23] <PhinnFort> JohnFlux: why shouldn't you be able to?
[11:24] <dr_willis> I dont think mounting a iso file works quite that way. (or at least id dident used to work that way)
[11:24] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: just add files to a data cd project in K3B, and choose to save to iso file
[11:24] <JohnFlux> PhinnFort: I think it can only be mounted read only or something
[11:24] <PhinnFort> JohnFlux: that's CD-ROM's, afaik
[11:24] <BluesKaj> or one use acetoneiso
[11:24] <PhinnFort> yeah
[11:24] <PhinnFort> acetone is cool, but not very pretty;)
[11:25] <dr_willis> !find acetone
[11:25] <ubotu> Package/file acetone does not exist in feisty
[11:25] <BluesKaj> who cares, it works
[11:25] <dr_willis> !find kiso
[11:25] <ubotu> Found: mkisofs, kiso
[11:25] <BluesKaj> :)
[11:25] <dr_willis> !info kiso
[11:25] <ubotu> kiso: program to create manipulate and extract CD Image. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.3-0ubuntu4 (feisty), package size 346 kB, installed size 1052 kB
[11:25] <Darkkish> it won't let me save as iso i don't think
[11:25] <BluesKaj> you need kommander for acetoneiso
[11:26] <dr_willis> oh its one of THOSE kind of things... :)
[11:26] <dr_willis> gheh heh
[11:26] <BluesKaj> make sure kommander is installed first
[11:26] <dr_willis> !info kommander
[11:26] <ubotu> kommander: visual dialog builder and executor tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3800 kB
[11:27] <Darkkish> k3b won't save as iso
[11:27] <PhinnFort> !info acetonceiso
[11:27] <ubotu> Package acetonceiso does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[11:27] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: it will so
[11:27] <Darkkish> mine will only save as k3b file
[11:27] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: press the burn button
[11:27] <BluesKaj> acetoneiso links to k3b to burn iso files
[11:28] <PhinnFort> create image file, only create image file
[11:28] <Darkkish> oh i see
[11:28] <Darkkish> cool
[11:28] <PhinnFort> :D
[11:29] <Darkkish> thanks man
[11:29] <PhinnFort> yw
[11:32] <Darkkish> are widgets cool
[11:32] <Darkkish> ?
[11:32] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: which?
[11:32] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: you mean superkaramba widgets?
[11:32] <Darkkish> idk, I just want to know if they're generally just CPU Hogs
[11:32] <Darkkish> sure
[11:32] <Darkkish> any widgets
[11:32] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: well, I just installed some, and they don't use much cpu
[11:32] <PhinnFort> hardly noticeable
[11:33] <PhinnFort> but I don't use them much either
[11:36] <Darkkish> so how do i uninstall something
[11:38] <PhinnFort> !uninstall
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uninstall - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <PhinnFort> !remove
[11:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about remove - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:38] <Darkkish> !install
[11:38] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[11:38] <Darkkish> yeah hmm
[11:39] <Darkkish> !./
[11:39] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: just open adept, right click, select remove, and apply
[11:39] <PhinnFort> or use add/remove programs
[11:39] <Darkkish> that doesn't work for programs i didn't use adept to isntal
[11:40] <Darkkish> install
[11:40] <PhinnFort> or "sudo aptitude purge [programname] " in a console
[11:40] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: well, you should only use adept to install
[11:40] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: which program is it?
[11:40] <nancy> HI
[11:40] <Darkkish> UT2004
[11:40] <PhinnFort> !hi | nancy
[11:40] <ubotu> nancy: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[11:40] <Darkkish> purge seems to be working
[11:41] <nancy> HEY
[11:41] <Darkkish> nvm
[11:41] <Darkkish> it isn't
[11:41] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: how did you install it?
[11:41] <Darkkish> sh file
[11:41] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: try running the shell file with "uninstall" afterwards
[11:41] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: but you really should have installed it using a .deb package
[11:42] <nancy> how are you??
[11:42] <PhinnFort> I are nice
[11:43] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: are you on 64-bit?
[11:43] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: have you followed this?: http://www.linuxelectrons.com/features/reviews/playing-unreal-tournament-2004-linux
[11:43] <Darkkish> shit I'm stupid
[11:43] <PhinnFort> you don't say
[11:43] <PhinnFort> :P
[11:43] <PhinnFort> welcome to the club
[11:43] <Darkkish> I just mounted something to /media
[11:43] <Darkkish> ...
[11:43] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: just umount it
[11:44] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: no harm done
[11:44] <Darkkish> haha cool
[11:44] <Darkkish> lol
[11:44] <Darkkish> how do i create a folder in /media?
[11:45] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: sudo mkdir /media/foldername
[11:45] <PhinnFort> Darkkish: or run "kdesu konqueror" (in run command (alt+f2)), and go and create
[11:45] <Darkkish> k
[11:45] <PhinnFort> there's more than one way to skin the cheeseburger
[11:47] <cntb> nixternal, Hi
[11:48] <cntb> nixternal, ?
[11:48] <Darkkish> cool
[11:48] <Darkkish> now UT should install right.
[11:48] <jrattner> Question: What folder should I place a font I want to be used in?
[11:48] <jrattner> ?
[11:48] <PhinnFort> jrattner: the "fonts:/" folder
[11:48] <PhinnFort> jrattner: or use the font installation tool
[11:48] <cntb> \o
[11:49] <jrattner> PhinnFort, where is that tool located
[11:49] <PhinnFort> jrattner: or rather "fonts:/personal"
[11:49] <PhinnFort> jrattner: in system settings, I believe
[11:49] <PhinnFort> Appearance -> Font Installation
[11:49] <PhinnFort> capisce?
[11:49] <cntb> how can Ileave here a message to someone who appears online but does not respond, being prolly away ?
[11:50] <PhinnFort> cntb: you can probably send a message with nickserv
[11:50] <PhinnFort> or memoserv
[11:50] <cntb> memoserv?
[11:50] <PhinnFort> cntb: /msg memoserv help
[11:50] <cntb> give me example send me memoserv pls
[11:51] <cntb> tyvm PhinnFort
[11:51] <PhinnFort> yw
[11:54] <alteroo> cntb: how did it go?
[11:54] <cntb> alright alteroo ty
[11:55] <alteroo> cntb: You were trying to fix something yesterday?
[11:55] <alteroo> alteroo: With Vista?
[11:56] <cntb> yes yes very intensively pls remind me alteroo
[11:56] <cntb> exactly
[11:56] <cntb> good for you
[11:56] <cntb> and solved happily
[11:56] <dr_willis> with high explosives?
[11:56] <alteroo> cntb: What was the solution?
[11:57] <PhinnFort> a tiny nuke, maybe?
[11:57] <cntb> I also my checked kubuntu install - backed up and burnt for easily cloning so some resizing of VIsta /XP and voila new ubuntu soread like a virus (haha)
[11:58] <cntb> alteroo> cntb: What was the solution? << easyBCD
[11:58] <cntb> http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1
[11:59] <cntb> that one I want the community to find on wiki and ubotu factoid
[11:59] <alteroo> cntb: Well you can submit a factiod and Wiki if you like
[11:59] <PhinnFort> cntb: the Ubuntu community doesn't endorse the use of Vista
[11:59] <cntb> gladly and happily
[12:00] <alteroo>  I'm thinking a factoid is over kill Just make it sensible on teh current wiki page and people will find it
[12:00] <cntb> PhinnFort, i perfectly well know that
[12:00] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:00] <alteroo> PhinnFort: But we welcoem people who endorse Linux and Ubuntu so we will help those with Vista as much as we can
[12:00] <cntb> also know you cannot buy an HP without a Vista copy
[12:00] <PhinnFort> don't buy from HP, then;)
[12:00] <cntb> so want or not most of us deal with Windows
[12:01] <flyertanks> hi
[12:01] <alteroo> PhinnFort: you'll love Gutsy then :)
[12:01] <cntb> and the only Portable I found around not having OEM windows is a CLEVO
[12:01] <flyertanks> do you speak portuguese
[12:01] <flyertanks> help
[12:01] <PhinnFort> alteroo: ;)
[12:01] <alteroo> !br | flyertanks
[12:01] <ubotu> flyertanks: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[12:02] <flyertanks> i dont speak english
[12:02] <cntb> exactly right alteroo
[12:02] <PhinnFort> :P
[12:02] <alteroo> !br | flyertanks
[12:02] <flyertanks> preciso de canal e naum do br
[12:02] <flyertanks> desse canal e naum do br
[12:03] <cntb> once all small businesses had NOVELL LAN and LANTASTIC , then came MS and picked all of it, till SAMBA appeared
[12:03] <alteroo> flyertanks: #ubuntu-pt
[12:03] <flyertanks> ubotu, pode me ajudar
[12:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pode me ajudar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:04] <alteroo> flyertanks: Click on #ubuntu-pt
[12:04] <cntb> One should have good tools t on his way to leave Virusland PhinnFort , isnt it so ? ;-)
[12:04] <flyertanks> how make
[12:04] <alteroo> Anyone here speak portugese ?
[12:05] <flyertanks> hello
[12:05] <jander99> !seen Keybuk
[12:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen keybuk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:05] <DaSkreech> jander99: Wrong Bot :) Msg seenserv
[12:05] <DaSkreech> flyertanks: Hello
[12:06] <flyertanks> hel me
[12:06] <flyertanks> help me
[12:06] <dr_willis> I cant even understand you
[12:06] <flyertanks> help me
[12:06] <PhinnFort> flyertanks: clickar on el blue fonto
[12:07] <flyertanks> where?
[12:07] <kazyua> apt-get just started segfaulting all over the place after I removed unrar-free, what can i do to fix this?
[12:07] <DaSkreech> flyertanks: #ubuntu-pt
[12:07] <DaSkreech> flyertanks: #ubuntu-br
[12:09] <Darkkish> does anyone else have UT2004
[12:11] <Darkkish> Does anyone here have UT2004?
[12:11] <Darkkish> oops
[12:11] <Darkkish> wrong window
[12:13] <DaSkreech> I do
[12:14] <DaSkreech> MMMMM UT2007