[12:27] <kiko> ec2, yeah, talk to danilos 
[12:28] <danilos> ec2: what's up?
[12:34] <ec2> danilos : hello , i am having a hard time to set up rosetta.
[12:34] <danilos> ec2: hi, what is bothering you?
[12:35] <ec2> i am one of the devs of wubi, which is an installer for ubuntu.
[12:35] <ec2> it is coded in nsis.
[12:35] <ec2> we uploaded a few days ago a first pot file.
[12:36] <ec2> https://translations.launchpad.net/wubi/trunk/
[12:37] <danilos> ec2: yeah, I can see it in the import queue; if you've read the FAQ, it says it's best for initial import to contact Carlos or myself, or preferably, ask a question on answers.launchpad.net/rosetta/, so we can approve it for you
[12:38] <ec2> we have read the faq.
[12:38] <ec2> the problem is that we use some kind of mixer between our language files and the po files.
[12:39] <ec2> our languages files are in NSIS and hampus made a python script that makes po files.
[12:39] <ec2> We are trying to get them compliant with rosetta.
[12:39] <danilos> ec2: that's fine, you can just put put them in a single tarball along with a POT file for maximum comfort (for you)
[12:40] <danilos> ec2, the layout you should use is something like po/wubi.pot, po/de.po, po/fr.po, po/es.po, po/zh_CN.po,...
[12:40] <danilos> then, once we set it up for the first time, it will all be automatically imported in the future
[12:41] <ec2> danilos : ok, that is exactly the question that i was going to ask.
[12:41] <danilos> (we require the manual set-up so people don't register upstream projects, provide templates and let them rot there, with others wasting time translating it)
[12:41] <ec2> That makes sense...
[12:42] <ec2> Once it is setup, how do i update the pot ? I simply upload the new one ?
[12:42] <danilos> ec2: ok, so I can approve the template you uploaded for you, but it will take some time for it to be imported
[12:42] <ec2> No problem.
[12:42] <danilos> ec2: exactly, just upload a new one, or include it in the tarball with the PO files
[12:44] <ec2> Hampus was working on it, but he just went to bed, i only have the pot you see uploaded on the queue.
[12:44] <danilos> ec2: no worries, you can upload the tarball whenever you please, and it will work automatically from now on, since I've just approved it
[12:45] <danilos> ec2: though, make sure you always use the same path in the tarball, if you want it to be automatically recognised
[12:47] <ec2> danilos : a tarball with no folder inside and no relative path stored (only the wubi.pot and the fr.po, en.po, sv.po ...)  will do the job ?
[12:47] <ec2> Anyway thanks a lot for your precious help danilos.
[12:48] <danilos> ec2: yes, but you can add another level as well... when you change the layout we need to go through the manual process again, so do ping us (or file a question at answers.launchpad.net :)
[12:48] <ec2> Understood.
[12:48] <danilos> ec2: no worries, hope I helped
[12:49] <ec2> I am glad there is always competent people who are ready to give a hand.
[12:49] <ec2> Thanks again.
[05:09] <ec1> danilos : Hello, can you give me a hand with launchpad ?
[05:11] <ec1> danilos : we talked yesterday about rosetta for wubi.
[05:12] <ec1> danilos : i fixed the pot and po files on wubi side.
[05:13] <ec1> danilos : Can you approve the wubi pot file on the bottom of this page : 
[05:13] <ec1> danilos : https://translations.launchpad.net/translations/imports/+index?target=products&status=all&type=pot&start=75&batch=75
[05:14] <ec1> danilos : we also have some pending po on this queue :
[05:14] <ec1> https://translations.launchpad.net/translations/imports/+index?target=products&status=all&type=po&start=375&batch=75
[05:33] <ec1> Is there someone around that can help with Rosetta ?
[05:34] <kiko> ec1, I think danilos finally went to sleep. what's up?
[05:35] <ec1> kiko : ok, no problem.
[05:36] <Hobbsee> oh no, it's kiko!
[05:36] <kiko> ec1, I saw that you updated your translations
[05:36] <kiko> right now the queue is totally sandbagged
[05:36] <kiko> but we're waiting for it to come around
[05:36] <kiko> hey Hobbsee 
[05:36] <kiko> nice to see you around
[05:36] <Hobbsee> heya :)
[05:36] <kiko> but it's saturday night girl
[05:36] <kiko> how come you're not watching david lynch's new movie??
[05:37] <Hobbsee> kiko: because i had to work.
[05:37] <Hobbsee> and have to work tomorrow.
[05:37] <kiko> aieee
[05:37] <Hobbsee> and nto shoot people
[05:37] <kiko> the sky is falling and I want my mommy kind of work?
[05:37] <kiko> I have some of that this weekend
[05:37] <ec1> kiko : We allready have one pot hosted on rosetta.
[05:37] <Hobbsee> kiko: not really.  just the "i have to be there, and do something from time to time, and make sure the place doesnt burn down" type work
[05:38] <ec1> kiko : it is a broken one : https://translations.launchpad.net/wubi/trunk/+pots/wubi
[05:38] <kiko> Hobbsee, do you do sysadmin work?
[05:38] <Hobbsee> kiko: nope.  i'm entirely boring in what i do
[05:38] <ec1> kiko : we would like to update it.
[05:38] <kiko> Hobbsee, omg!
[05:39] <kiko> and they let you use the internet?
[05:39] <Hobbsee> kiko: it's a job i had thru school, and my uni takes up a fair bit of the 9-5 hours.  so...it's hard to find work in other fields, which *doesnt* require 9-5 work
[05:39] <Hobbsee> nope
[05:39] <Hobbsee> i'm out on the floor
[05:39] <Hobbsee> which means i just talk to the staff, and boss others around :P
[05:40] <kiko> and how do you do IRC?
[05:40] <Hobbsee> i'm at home
[05:40] <Hobbsee> i dont irc from work, unfortunately
[05:40] <Hobbsee> only from uni and such
[05:41] <Hobbsee> kiko: unfortunately, the stupidity level of customers has risen in the last year or so. 
[05:41] <kiko> I think you need to write to your senator
[05:41] <kiko> requesting IRC at the market
[05:42] <Hobbsee> haha
[05:42] <kiko> and if possible more intelligent customers 
[05:42] <Hobbsee> kiko: my ex-boss gave me large warnings about impending doom, and refused to tell me hwo to troubleshoot a problem until i'd badgered her for ages.  the solution was to plug the speaker plug back in, to the back of the computer
[05:43] <kiko> you can use speakers in the market? 
[05:43] <Hobbsee> it's a supermarket, ie a shop.  not a market.
[05:44] <kiko> oh. and you can use speakers in the supermarket? 
[05:44] <kiko> I've never seen that before
[05:44] <Hobbsee> it's speakers for the registers
[05:44] <kiko> we do have them here in brazil you know
[05:44] <Hobbsee> means it actually plays the beeps, etc.
[05:44] <kiko> speakers. and supermarkets too.
[05:44] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:44] <kiko> what beeps?
[05:44] <kiko> it's not just jungle and monkeys as you might think!!!
[05:44] <Hobbsee> visual verify beeps and such.  *shrug*
[05:47] <Hobbsee> kiko: we're running windows NT at work.  it's horrifying.  no wonder it keeps crashing.
[05:47] <kiko> Hobbsee, did you know that the company I work for produces a point-of-sales application?
[05:47] <Hobbsee> kiko: is this canonical, or another company?
[05:47] <kiko> async.com.br
[05:49] <Hobbsee> interesting
[05:49] <kiko> the product is at stoq.com.br
[05:49] <kiko> but the site is pt_BR only for now
[05:49] <kiko> it is pure python!
[05:50] <Hobbsee> heh
[06:06] <Hobbsee> launchpad cant merge people and teams, can it?
[06:09] <pochu> Hobbsee: people, yes. Teams, bug 29177
[06:09] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 29177 in launchpad "Allow merging of teams (and specifically merge ubuntu-doc and ubuntu-doc-lists)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/29177
[06:10] <pochu> So no :)
[06:10] <Hobbsee> right
[06:14] <ec1> Is there someone around who can approves Rosetta templates ?
[06:15] <gianmt> hi guys, is codebrowse down?
[09:07] <eudoxos_> Hello... hope this is the right place to ask for problems with bzr hosted at launchpad? When I do "bzr brznch" over sftp, I get to about 12kb/s download speed, which means that the whole checkout of /~yade-team/yade/trunk takes an hour or so. Is there a problem on my side? Suggestions for improvements? (ssh+bzr doesn't connect at all...)
[09:41] <eudoxos_> someone, please... this channel is supposed to have launchpad admins here. None of them knows what is going on with bzr at launchpad, why it is _so_ slow for getting branch? (6.5kb/s now)
[09:48] <mwh> eudoxos_: the disadvantage of professional support is that it mainly happens during the week :)
[09:49] <mwh> the machine doesn't seem overly loaded
[09:51] <eudoxos_> mwh: thank you for some response...
[09:55] <kiko> eudoxos_, it's possibly a known problem. fetching the first branch can be slow from some locations
[09:56] <eudoxos_> kiko: is there a fix for that? I migrated the project from svn to bzr and now my fellows want to make me migrate back because of that.
[09:56] <kiko> eudoxos_, I'd need to check on monday to be able to answer you for sure
[09:56] <kiko> eudoxos_, there may be something trivially wrong
[09:57] <eudoxos_> kiko: good to hear that. I got the same result from at least 2 locations that one has university connection, the other is 2Mbit ADSL. bzr is 0.15 or .16.
[09:57] <eudoxos_> kiko: I will get back with that monday, ok? Thank you a bunch.
[09:59] <kiko> sure thing
[10:05] <mwh> it's a one time pain, and i think you can do things like upload a tarball of a checked out branch locally
[10:08] <eudoxos_> mwh: you're right, but it makes not people very confident... waiting 1h for a checkout that you'd have in 1 minute with svn? bzr should be able to do that right without workarounds. kiko "promised" help next week, so we will see.
[10:08] <mwh> it's a known problem, and being worked on
[10:08] <kiko> well, I promise to figure out if there's something you can do to avoid that delay :)
[10:08] <mwh> but you're getting a _lot_ more information that you would with svn
[10:08] <mwh> have you tried 'bzr co --lightweight' ?
[10:11] <ubotu> New bug: #57063 in soyuz "Accept/Reject buttons shown even if  user has no permissions" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/57063
[10:12] <eudoxos_> mwh: yes, that works better (a few minutes), but you need to connect even for bzr diff (doesn't work offline and is slower)
[10:16] <eudoxos_> mwh, kiko: thx, cu :-)
[10:24] <LaserJock> afternoon kiko 
[10:24] <kiko> hey jordan
[10:24] <kiko> aaaalmost outta here
[10:25] <LaserJock> I'm checking on the "let motu-sru team approve uploads to -proposed" bug
[10:25] <LaserJock> I think I might be able to reject it
[10:26] <LaserJock> kiko: we've essentially rewritten our StableReleaseUpdates policy
[10:26] <LaserJock> to slim it down, and make if more efficient
[10:27] <kiko> really? that's interesting
[10:27] <LaserJock> as a result the motu-sru team is no more and the archive admins just need to do a quick check
[10:27] <LaserJock> so we relieved our bottleneck
[10:28] <LaserJock> I still think as a long term goal letting MOTU do some archive admin'ing will be important
[10:28] <LaserJock> but we don't need the immediate case that the bug is for
[10:30] <LaserJock> kiko: you can read the new process at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU
[10:30] <LaserJock> kiko: it uses LP a bit more, specifically tags
[10:31] <kiko> okay cool
[10:31] <kiko> the queue UI improvements are useful anyway
[10:32] <LaserJock> yes
[10:32] <LaserJock> so it's good work to do
[10:33] <LaserJock> but the actual use case in that bug no longer exists
[10:33] <kiko> okay, reply and I'll fix it up
[10:33] <LaserJock> so are you leaving?
[10:33] <LaserJock> or do you have a little bit of time?
[10:33] <kiko> I need to run off
[10:33] <kiko> but email me!
[10:34] <LaserJock> ok, will do
[11:13] <Webspot> Could someone help me import my subversion into my bazaar on launchpad? I got a test failed.
[11:14] <mwh> Webspot: what project?
[11:14] <Webspot> papermark
[11:15] <mwh> oh, that's because your svn repo isn't set up according to the conventions
[11:16] <mwh> https://help.launchpad.net/VcsImportRequests#head-9ddfc32f3880d992b2faac4abb5b07ca93dce348
[11:16] <Webspot> ok. I'll have a look. Thanks
[11:16] <mwh> it's a bug in the import code, really
[11:16] <mwh> but we have to be careful, importing all of, say, codespeak.net/svn would be a bad idea :)
[11:17] <Webspot> lol. yeah. do you happen to know how I'd move everything in the root of my svn to a folder called trunk?
[11:19] <Webspot> never mind found the move command :P
[11:28] <gianmt> hey guys still down codebrowse?
[11:30] <mwh> oh ffs
[11:32] <mwh> gianmt: restarted
[11:32] <gianmt> uh, it's up now
[11:32] <gianmt> mwh, you are my hero