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| bersace | Hi all | 11:20 |
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| bersace | my membership is about to expire in 7 days | 11:20 |
| bersace | could any admin fix that ? | 11:20 |
| bersace | troy_s: ping | 11:21 |
| bersace | andreasn: ping | 11:21 |
| andreasn | bersace: pong | 11:21 |
| bersace | andreasn: could you please change my expiration date for my launchpad artwork-team membership ? | 11:22 |
| andreasn | well, yes, I probably could | 11:22 |
| andreasn | is it expiring, I didn't know it could do that... | 11:22 |
| andreasn | how is gnome-scan going these days? | 11:23 |
| andreasn | hm, I'm not sure I can find you on this list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art/+members | 11:31 |
| andreasn | ahm there you were | 11:32 |
| andreasn | should I set the expiration to never instead? | 11:33 |
| andreasn | or just extend it for one year? | 11:33 |
| andreasn | bersace: ok, fixed | 11:35 |
| bersace | andreasn: thanks | 11:35 |
| andreasn | np | 11:56 |
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| darkmatter | nothlit, ping | 08:47 |
| darkmatter | http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=526506362&size=o | 08:47 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: What music browser is that? | 08:48 |
| darkmatter | troy_s, banshee | 08:50 |
| darkmatter | http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=526521386&size=o | 08:50 |
| darkmatter | buttons fixed | 08:51 |
| darkmatter | troy_s, I'm debating rename the theme to Ozone... | 08:53 |
| darkmatter | or Hal-i-frekkin-luja xD | 08:53 |
| troy_s | god not another o thing | 08:53 |
| troy_s | lol | 08:53 |
| troy_s | Something like 'Elderly People Prefer Asparagus' is a little better... | 08:53 |
| darkmatter | lol | 08:53 |
| darkmatter | "My Buttons are Better than Yours!"? | 08:54 |
| troy_s | or "What Might Happen When You Are Trapped In a Bunker With A Peter Fonda Lookalike." | 08:54 |
| darkmatter | haha | 08:55 |
| darkmatter | "ARRGGHHHHH!!! MY EYES!!! IT BURNS!!!" | 08:55 |
| troy_s | anything creative beyond say the 'AHHHS' or 'OOOOS' -- VistAH, AquAH, PlasMAH, FAHck | 08:55 |
| troy_s | woo | 08:55 |
| troy_s | i like that | 08:55 |
| troy_s | Or 'These Goggles Do Nothing." | 08:55 |
| darkmatter | lol | 08:56 |
| darkmatter | brb | 08:56 |
| darkmatter | troy_s, if it wasnt for a guaranteed lawsuit Id call it "Goooogleez" and use the google eyes for the window menu... ;) | 08:58 |
| nothlit | use xeyes | 08:59 |
| darkmatter | I admit.. it looks macish due to that meacity... but tonight I start on the actual themes metacity... and the mac reference dies :P | 09:03 |
| nothlit | darkmatter: the buttons aren't nearly as subtle as the scrollbar and co, but the sources of light still seem funky to me lol | 09:05 |
| darkmatter | I'll probably do the final build against murrine (so I can have pretty selected items in lists n trees) | 09:05 |
| darkmatter | nothlit, yeah.. still tweaking | 09:05 |
| darkmatter | need to lighten the grad on the buttons a bit | 09:06 |
| troy_s | i'd like to see the prettified scrollbars and progressbars | 09:06 |
| troy_s | the rest is all pretty oatmeal -- which is a good thing. | 09:06 |
| bersace | very nice | 09:06 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: Pretty well suited for a Lua port... maybe you should talk with dborg. | 09:06 |
| darkmatter | troy_s, yeas.. I like "oatmeal".. especially since the redone them is based on ui sketches I did. | 09:07 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: The tango outline is still heavy though. | 09:07 |
| darkmatter | which will need to be mockedup so all can se why the theme looks the way it does | 09:07 |
| bersace | troy_s: do you know the plans for this release cycle ? | 09:08 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: Stripped down minimalism is quite nice when it has the odd 15%-20% pretty in it. | 09:08 |
| troy_s | bersace: There are none, there never will be any, and it will end up looking the same. | 09:08 |
| bersace | troy_s: fine | 09:08 |
| darkmatter | troy_s, tango oulines gone.. ceot on the notebook (it renders weird in alpha.. may need to opaque the boarders | 09:08 |
| troy_s | bersace: So don't worry yourself -- everything is on course :) | 09:08 |
| bersace | :P | 09:08 |
| darkmatter | *borders* | 09:09 |
| troy_s | bersace: Unfortunate, but again, if you want aesthetics, you need someone who cares about culture and aesthetics at the top. | 09:09 |
| troy_s | bersace: As much as I despise the man, S. Jobs is an ace of spades in that regard. | 09:09 |
| darkmatter | s jobs is the god of appeal.. its his one strong suit | 09:09 |
| troy_s | bersace: He _believes_ in strong aesthetic decisions and (now that his ipods sold over 100 million) realizes that design influnces adoption. | 09:10 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: Well he is the god of snake oil salesmanship. | 09:10 |
| darkmatter | and bill gates is the king of web2.0 gfx :P | 09:10 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: But he does have a redeeming quality to him -- he appreciates art and culture. | 09:10 |
| darkmatter | yup | 09:10 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: sabdfl is closer to billg than s.jobs. | 09:10 |
| darkmatter | and it even shows in the design of the os | 09:11 |
| darkmatter | osx is the finest looking thing out there currently | 09:11 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: Little lost, uber conservative, and a distinct lack of innovation in the realm of aesthetics. | 09:11 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: Unfortunately I would agree with you... that said, when you have two items to choose from... | 09:11 |
| darkmatter | troy_s, agreed | 09:11 |
| nothlit | jobs is anti drm, thats the one thing that i do like | 09:12 |
| troy_s | darkmatter: The one thing that the very well trained and educated designers at Apple know -- its that aesthetic values shift. It isn't a 'right or wrong' issue -- it is 'how does this piece fit into the contemporary trends. | 09:12 |
| troy_s | nothlit: He was _not_ anti drm | 09:12 |
| troy_s | nothlit: You fell into his fecking snakepitch | 09:12 |
| troy_s | nothlit: He was 100% pro drm, and in fact, only became the anti-drm pioneer when he realized that the true masses were going to take it down. | 09:13 |
| troy_s | nothlit: Granted -- he jumped on the wagon at a very good time. | 09:13 |
| troy_s | nothlit: And for that, he deserves some credit... he is at least _ahead_ of the rest of the idiots... but not much better. | 09:13 |
| nothlit | troy_s: hmm, i've read stories about him fighting with the big 5 almost since the beginning of itunes | 09:13 |
| troy_s | nothlit: Spin spin spin spin | 09:14 |
| troy_s | nothlit: Remember, the early shift of the ipod was to present a completely monopolized media player. | 09:14 |
| nothlit | no | 09:14 |
| nothlit | i mean during | 09:14 |
| nothlit | not afterwards lol | 09:14 |
| troy_s | nothlit: Get in deep with mp3 support, flog drm to keep people locked in. | 09:14 |
| troy_s | nothlit: And do it all behind the scenes and out of the daylight -- how many people immediately embraced iTunes without realizing that their music would only play on their system? | 09:15 |
| troy_s | nothlit: It was slimy to say the least. | 09:15 |
| troy_s | nothlit: Classic Apple... | 09:15 |
| troy_s | nothlit: I lived through the bloody tyranny of Apple when they had 98% market penetration -- it was a sad sad era. Want a mouse? It is a DIY connector! Disk drive? That too... come to apple... we will help you... we will save your soul. lol. | 09:16 |
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| darkmatter | troy_s, yup | 09:38 |
| darkmatter | troy_s, unfortunately gnome-artists dont follow trends... there more concerned with "WOOOO!!!! I can make the ui look like its constructed from GUMMY BEARS!!!" | 09:39 |
| darkmatter | troy_s, like gnomes newest "theme" Gummy... its nothing more than a gelatinous version of clearlooks | 09:42 |
| bersace | darkmatter: are you behind http://darkmatter.thegamecreators.com/ ? | 09:43 |
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| darkmatter | as in.. its not a theme. a them is something "original" recolouring and shifting gradients doesn *NOT* count as a theme | 09:43 |
| bersace | kwwii: Hallo !!!! :D | 09:43 |
| darkmatter | bersace, nope | 09:43 |
| kwwii | hi bersace | 09:44 |
| kwwii | :-) | 09:44 |
| darkmatter | bersace, if I was I'd dump the 2.0 graphics ;) | 09:44 |
| kwwii | bersace: are you from the bordeaux? | 09:44 |
| kwwii | area | 09:45 |
| bersace | kwwii: no, Paris | 09:45 |
| bersace | (remember UDS-Paris) | 09:45 |
| nothlit | darkmatter: hmm i enjoy the availability of recolours | 09:45 |
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| bersace | 'd night all | 09:46 |
| andreasn | darkmatter: there are some people working on putting some new themes into gnome-themes-extras | 09:47 |
| andreasn | darkmatter: perhaps your theme can go in there as well | 09:48 |
| andreasn | darkmatter: hold on, let me find the url | 09:48 |
| andreasn | darkmatter: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/GnomeThemesExtras | 09:48 |
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| darkmatter | andreasn, looking | 09:48 |
| darkmatter | nothlit, I enjoy the avalibility of recolours to. but thet are not *themes* as so many pimp them as. they're just colorschemes | 09:50 |
| darkmatter | and yes... thats an anal observation | 09:50 |
| darkmatter | :P | 09:50 |
| darkmatter | oh!!! need to screenie the redone tooltips! | 09:51 |
| darkmatter | nothlit, troy_s, http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=526601048&size=o <--- no more sticky notes! | 09:54 |
| darkmatter | and yes, the 2pix curve on the corners was a PITA | 09:56 |
| kwwii_ | evening all | 09:58 |
| kwwii_ | I am going to add a wiki page with instructions for using the automaticArtworkBuilder ...it is not finished yet, but it is a beginning and if anyone wants to help let me know | 09:59 |
| kwwii_ | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticArtworkBuilderInstructions | 10:31 |
| kwwii_ | night | 10:35 |
| darkmatter | l8r all | 10:36 |
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