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| FFighter | n2diy_, Are you there ? | 01:18 |
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| n2diy_ | FFighter: yep | 01:19 |
| FFighter | Do you know any other pastebin web app I could use ? | 01:19 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: no I don't, lets take a chance and try it here? | 01:19 |
| FFighter | hmmm | 01:19 |
| FFighter | all right | 01:20 |
| FFighter | eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0C:6E:CE:ED:C2 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | inet addr:192.168.0.2 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | RX packets:302 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | TX packets:78 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | RX bytes:60050 (58.6 KiB) TX bytes:11472 (11.2 KiB) | 01:20 |
| FFighter | Interrupt:18 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:26:54:13:3B:20 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) | 01:20 |
| FFighter | Interrupt:17 Base address:0x8000 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | lo Link encap:Local Loopback | 01:20 |
| FFighter | inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host | 01:20 |
| FFighter | UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | RX packets:38243 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | TX packets:38243 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | RX bytes:2125453 (2.0 MiB) TX bytes:2125453 (2.0 MiB) | 01:20 |
| FFighter | nas0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:90:D0:2E:B9:A2 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | inet6 addr: fe80::290:d0ff:fe2e:b9a2/64 Scope:Link | 01:20 |
| FFighter | UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | RX packets:195455 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 | 01:20 |
| FFighter | TX packets:168225 errors:321 dropped:0 overruns:321 carrier:0 | 01:21 |
| FFighter | collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 | 01:21 |
| FFighter | RX bytes:236630891 (225.6 MiB) TX bytes:24129742 (23.0 MiB) | 01:21 |
| FFighter | ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol | 01:21 |
| FFighter | inet addr:200.138.244.156 P-t-P:200.138.242.254 Mask:255.255.255.255 | 01:21 |
| FFighter | UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1492 Metric:1 | 01:21 |
| FFighter | RX packets:658 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 | 01:21 |
| FFighter | TX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carr | 01:21 |
| FFighter | hmm.. a part is missing | 01:21 |
| FFighter | just a min, I've found another pastebin-like website | 01:21 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: we don't need it now! :) | 01:22 |
| FFighter | http://pastebin.4programmers.net/2371 | 01:22 |
| FFighter | anyway, I pasted it there... there's also ppp1 besides ppp0 | 01:23 |
| FFighter | that was the part missing | 01:23 |
| FFighter | ;) | 01:23 |
| nalioth | whoa. | 01:24 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: are you a fire fighter? | 01:24 |
| FFighter | n2diy_, No, FireFox Fighter | 01:25 |
| FFighter | =) | 01:25 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: ok, what is nas0? | 01:25 |
| FFighter | n2diy_, good question, I think it is a network bridge | 01:25 |
| FFighter | my modem demands this kind of connection | 01:25 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: ok, so how many ethernet cards are installed on your box? | 01:26 |
| FFighter | it was created by a dial script I created... I followed this tutorial: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ | 01:27 |
| FFighter | n2diy_, Two | 01:27 |
| FFighter | n2diy_, I'm using eth0 to connect to the XP machine | 01:28 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: ok, are you Squirreli in the forum post? | 01:29 |
| FFighter | n2diy_, No, I'm not in that post | 01:29 |
| FFighter | I use the same nickname on ubuntu forums (FFighter) | 01:29 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: ok, let me look at the Speedtouch link. | 01:30 |
| FFighter | the url I sent you ? | 01:30 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: yes | 01:31 |
| FFighter | ok | 01:31 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: one thing I see is eth1 doesn't have an ip address assigned to it. | 01:32 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: and what version of Ubuntu are you using? | 01:33 |
| FFighter | n2diy_, Actually the IP I set the IP on eth0 using ifconfig eth0 <ip> | 01:33 |
| FFighter | n2diy_, Feisty | 01:33 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: what is eth1 connected to? | 01:33 |
| FFighter | n2diy_, nothing | 01:33 |
| FFighter | only eth0 is being used | 01:33 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: ok, can you ping eth0? | 01:34 |
| FFighter | locally ? | 01:34 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: yes | 01:34 |
| FFighter | yes | 01:34 |
| FFighter | I can ping | 01:34 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: can you ping the XP box? | 01:34 |
| FFighter | well, the XP box is set up with a static IP -> 192.168.0.3 (255.255.255.0 submask) | 01:35 |
| FFighter | I can't ping there | 01:35 |
| FFighter | "Host Unreachable" | 01:35 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: ok, so try ping 192.16.0.3 | 01:35 |
| n2diy_ | 16/168 | 01:36 |
| FFighter | I did | 01:36 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: no errors? | 01:36 |
| FFighter | It doesn't reach there | 01:36 |
| FFighter | root@marcelo-desktop:/var# ping 192.168.0.3 | 01:36 |
| FFighter | PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. | 01:36 |
| FFighter | From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable | 01:36 |
| FFighter | From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable | 01:36 |
| FFighter | From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable | 01:36 |
| FFighter | From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable | 01:36 |
| FFighter | From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable | 01:36 |
| FFighter | From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachabl | 01:36 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: pinging the XP box fails, ok. | 01:36 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: I hope you know how to play in XP? | 01:38 |
| FFighter | n2diy_, Yes, of course, always used windows before | 01:38 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: Ok, I've been Microsoft free since 95. Can the XP box ping its ethernet card? | 01:39 |
| FFighter | Actually, just making Ubuntu and XP ping themselves would be a great step | 01:39 |
| FFighter | =) | 01:39 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: Yep, that is the first step in troubleshooting a network. | 01:39 |
| FFighter | No, it can't... just tried it... even though XP says that the connection is up and that packets are being sent | 01:39 |
| FFighter | weird. It says "Local connection is connected 100Mbps" | 01:40 |
| FFighter | but I can't reach here | 01:41 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: I love Windows! :) What happens when you pull the ethernet cable off the XP box, does it realize it lost the connection? | 01:41 |
| FFighter | I will try it | 01:41 |
| FFighter | just a min | 01:41 |
| FFighter | surprisingly it does detect - "A network cable has been disconected" | 01:42 |
| FFighter | so does ubuntu | 01:43 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: Can the XP box ping itself with the cable disconnected? | 01:43 |
| FFighter | Ubuntu just said popped up the following message "You are now connected to the wired netword" | 01:44 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: ok, try my previous. | 01:44 |
| FFighter | no! The output of ipconfig says that the "media is disconnected" | 01:45 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: What!!!??? Ubuntu thinks it is connected, after the connection was broken, weird. Anyway, XP needs to be able to ping itself. | 01:45 |
| FFighter | Wait.. I had plugged the wire again just before | 01:46 |
| FFighter | that's why ubuntu said it was connected | 01:46 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: So XP can't ping its own ethernet card? | 01:46 |
| FFighter | I unplugged it again now to test the XP ping thing | 01:46 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: Ok, I thought I was going nuts. | 01:46 |
| FFighter | Well... I can ping localhost, but not the IP I had set up (192.168.0.3) | 01:47 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: XP has a lo? | 01:47 |
| FFighter | yep, it does | 01:47 |
| FFighter | 127.0.0.1 | 01:48 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: Interesting. Sounds like the XP card is configured. | 01:48 |
| n2diy_ | is/isn't | 01:48 |
| FFighter | is or ins't ? | 01:48 |
| FFighter | isn't* | 01:48 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: Isn't configured | 01:49 |
| FFighter | oh ok | 01:49 |
| FFighter | hmmm... so you think the problem is at the XP side | 01:49 |
| FFighter | what could I do then ? | 01:50 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: yes I do. | 01:50 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: Oh what is it called device manager? Does that show anything about the ethernet card? | 01:51 |
| FFighter | on windows ? | 01:51 |
| FFighter | Would you like to see the hardware specs of the card ? | 01:51 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: yes. | 01:51 |
| FFighter | I will take a look, hold on | 01:52 |
| n2diy_ | FFighter: no, the specs. won't help us. | 01:52 |
| FFighter | RealTek RTL8139 - it says the device is installed and working correctly | 01:53 |
| n2diy | FFighter: :/ | 01:54 |
| FFighter | Could it be something related to iptables not allowing the connections ? | 01:54 |
| FFighter | I'm lost becouse I don't really understand networking nor how Linux handles all that | 01:55 |
| n2diy | FFighter: But when you go to a command prompt, and enter ping 192.168.0.3 it fails? | 01:55 |
| FFighter | yes it does | 01:55 |
| FFighter | But only when the wire is disconnected | 01:55 |
| FFighter | I mean | 01:55 |
| FFighter | it also fails when the wire is connected, but it is a different "error" | 01:55 |
| FFighter | when the wire is connected, it says that the host is unreachable | 01:56 |
| n2diy | FFighter: what's it say when it is disconnected? | 01:56 |
| FFighter | when the write is disconnected, it says also says host unreachable, but ipconfig shows a "disconnected media" message | 01:57 |
| FFighter | When I connect it again, both machine detect that the there is a network | 01:57 |
| FFighter | That's why I thought that it could be something related to firewalling (maybe a miss-configured iptables)? | 01:58 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Ok, have double check this, when at the XP box, you can't ping 192.168.0.3? | 01:58 |
| FFighter | I'm sorry, when I told you that I couldn't ping 192.168.0.3 when the wire was up, I was wrong... | 01:59 |
| FFighter | I actually can ping 192.168.0.3 when the wire is connected **only** | 01:59 |
| FFighter | 192.168.0.3 being the static IP set on the XP network settings for the local connection | 02:00 |
| n2diy | FFighter: When at the XP box? | 02:00 |
| FFighter | yes | 02:00 |
| FFighter | only when at the XP box... I tried also pinging here (192.168.0.2) from there, but couldn't | 02:00 |
| FFighter | pinging 192.168.0,3 from here also doesn't work | 02:00 |
| FFighter | "Host unreachable" | 02:00 |
| n2diy | FFighter: And the XP and Ubuntu boxes are connected directly together when the network is in normal operation? | 02:01 |
| FFighter | There's no LAN... I have only internet access here on my ubuntu box.. the LAN doesn't work | 02:02 |
| FFighter | even though both computers say that there's a connection... but I can't reach each other | 02:02 |
| FFighter | Here's something interesting: | 02:03 |
| n2diy | FFighter: That doesn't answer my question. :) How are the two boxes connected together? | 02:03 |
| FFighter | Oh sorry | 02:03 |
| FFighter | n2diy, wired ethernet (directly) | 02:03 |
| FFighter | no hubs, no routers | 02:03 |
| FFighter | The Active Connection Dialog says that eth0 is connected, the speed is 100 Mb/s and driver is "forcedeth" but all IPs (from IP address to Secondary DNS) show 0.0.0.0 | 02:04 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Ok, the Realtec 8139 is an older ethernet card(I'm using one), and I believe, you need a crossover cable to do a direct connect to it. | 02:04 |
| FFighter | hmmm... but why did it work fine when I had XP here (both LAN and Internet Connection Sharing) | 02:05 |
| n2diy | FFighter: This network worked, when your Ubuntu box was an XP box!? | 02:06 |
| FFighter | n2diy, Yes! | 02:06 |
| FFighter | And it was pretty straightforward to set up | 02:06 |
| FFighter | I just made the switch to ubuntu (last week) | 02:07 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Eye yigh yigh! | 02:07 |
| FFighter | what does that mean? :) (sorry but english is not my mother tongue!) | 02:07 |
| n2diy | FFighter: ok, do you have Firestarter installed? | 02:07 |
| FFighter | No, it isn't installed | 02:07 |
| FFighter | I have only installed the tools in the forum post I mentioned | 02:08 |
| n2diy | FFighter: ok, you might want to install it, it is a GUI front end for iptables. | 02:08 |
| FFighter | like guidedog ? | 02:08 |
| n2diy | FFighter: not familiar with guidedog. | 02:09 |
| FFighter | all right, will install firestarter | 02:09 |
| FFighter | ok, I'm running it now | 02:10 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Ok, see the policy tab, click on that, then click in the allow connections box. | 02:11 |
| FFighter | Should I check "Start the firewall on dial-out" ? | 02:11 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Ignore that for now. | 02:12 |
| FFighter | hMM... I liked the "Enable Internet connecton sharing" option :D | 02:12 |
| FFighter | I ticked it, ok ? | 02:12 |
| FFighter | Should I enable DHCP for the local network ? | 02:12 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Ok, see the policy tab, click on that, then click in the allow connections box. Have you done this? | 02:13 |
| FFighter | hmmm... | 02:13 |
| FFighter | If I try to select eth0 for the connection sharing it displays an error message: The local area and the internet connected devices cannot be the same | 02:14 |
| FFighter | I guess that ppp0 is linked to eth0 through nas0 then | 02:14 |
| FFighter | I should use eth1 I think | 02:14 |
| FFighter | What do you think ? | 02:14 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Don't go herding cats on me. Eth1 isn't connected to anything!! Click on the policy tab!!!! | 02:14 |
| FFighter | n2diy, I know! But maybe I should be connecting through eth1 then | 02:15 |
| FFighter | ok, I will select eth1 for connection sharing (I can't choose eth0 anyway) | 02:15 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Click on the policy tab. | 02:15 |
| FFighter | ok, I'm there | 02:16 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Click in the allow connections box, and inter the XP box's ip address. | 02:16 |
| FFighter | just a note: It failed to start the firewall... it said eth0 "is not ready" | 02:17 |
| n2diy | inter/enter | 02:17 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Ok, wait. | 02:17 |
| n2diy | FFighter: can you ping 192.168.0.2? | 02:18 |
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| FFighter | hmmm... I can't now | 02:19 |
| n2diy | FFighter: WTF? :) ok, enter ifup eth0 | 02:19 |
| FFighter | Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. | 02:20 |
| n2diy | FFighter: WTF? :) ok, enter ifdown eth0? | 02:20 |
| FFighter | actually it has lost its configurations when the network went down | 02:20 |
| FFighter | I set up the 192.168.0.2 IP for eth0 through ifconfig | 02:21 |
| FFighter | when the network went down and up again, it has loaded its default settings I think | 02:21 |
| FFighter | I don't know how to make these settings permanent yet | 02:21 |
| n2diy | FFighter: ok, reconfigure it. | 02:21 |
| FFighter | Allright | 02:21 |
| FFighter | ok, pinging | 02:22 |
| FFighter | n2diy, Now the firewall says it is active | 02:23 |
| n2diy | FFighter: you can ping 0.2 and 0.3? | 02:23 |
| FFighter | oops... no longer | 02:23 |
| FFighter | how weird | 02:23 |
| n2diy | FFighter: now what happened? | 02:23 |
| FFighter | I don't know.. I will restart the network, just a min | 02:24 |
| n2diy | I have to go check my weather radar, so when you responded, make sure you use my nick so I'm alerted to it. | 02:27 |
| n2diy | FFighter: I have to go check my weather radar, so when you responded, make sure you use my nick so I'm alerted to it. | 02:28 |
| FFighter | ok, restarted and the firewall is up again | 02:30 |
| FFighter | I had to manually select ppp0 as the "Internet connection network device" | 02:30 |
| FFighter | I can ping 192.168.0.2 | 02:30 |
| FFighter | root@marcelo-desktop:/var# ping 192.168.0.3 | 02:30 |
| FFighter | PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. | 02:30 |
| FFighter | ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted | 02:30 |
| FFighter | ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted | 02:30 |
| FFighter | what does that mean ? | 02:30 |
| FFighter | n2diy, Are you still here ? | 02:31 |
| FFighter | n2diy, Are you still here ? | 02:31 |
| n2diy | FFighter: yep | 02:31 |
| FFighter | n2diy, It somehow affected my internet connection, I disabled the firewall | 02:31 |
| n2diy | FFighter: ppp0 is your dial up connection, eth0 is your ethernet connection. | 02:32 |
| FFighter | I guess so | 02:32 |
| FFighter | But nas0 is still a mystery | 02:33 |
| FFighter | Maybe it is a bridge between ppp0 and eth0 ? | 02:33 |
| n2diy | FFighter: so eth0 should be selected as your network device. | 02:33 |
| FFighter | in firestarter ? Ok, I did it | 02:34 |
| FFighter | and ppp0 for internet | 02:34 |
| FFighter | when I start the firewall, the internet conn. seems to go down | 02:34 |
| FFighter | Is there some policy I should create to allow the internet connection to function properly ? | 02:34 |
| n2diy | FFighter: your herding cats again, we can't troubleshoot your lan, and internet connection at the same time, and hope to remain sane. | 02:35 |
| FFighter | ok ok ... sorry | 02:35 |
| FFighter | its just that I'm trying to solve since last week... sorry for that | 02:36 |
| n2diy | FFighter: and obviously ppp0 is working, or we wouldn't be talking to each other, right? | 02:36 |
| FFighter | yes, now that firestarter is off | 02:36 |
| FFighter | =) | 02:36 |
| n2diy | FFighter: firestarter is off, or the fire wall is off? | 02:36 |
| FFighter | I meant the firewall... | 02:37 |
| n2diy | FFighter: ok, did you allow 0.03 to connect in firestarter? Did it stick? | 02:38 |
| FFighter | What do you mean by "stick" ? | 02:39 |
| FFighter | if I was able to ping here from XP ? | 02:39 |
| n2diy | FFighter: It didn't change. Can you ping the other way? | 02:39 |
| FFighter | When I try to ping 192.168.0,3, it actually tries to ping 192.168.0.1... why does it routes 192.168.0.3 to 0.1 ? | 02:40 |
| FFighter | root@marcelo-desktop:/var# ping 192.168.0.3 | 02:40 |
| FFighter | PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. | 02:40 |
| FFighter | From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable | 02:40 |
| FFighter | From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable | 02:40 |
| FFighter | From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable | 02:40 |
| n2diy | FFighter: 0.01 is the bridge! Why are you using a bridge? Is it a physical device, or software? | 02:42 |
| FFighter | software | 02:42 |
| FFighter | The dial script I use creates it | 02:42 |
| FFighter | (nas0) | 02:42 |
| FFighter | as I was told to do by the tutorial I sent you | 02:42 |
| n2diy | FFighter: why do you need a dial script? | 02:42 |
| FFighter | http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html | 02:43 |
| n2diy | FFighter: wait, I'm loading it. | 02:43 |
| FFighter | It's the bootscript ... | 02:43 |
| FFighter | I think I need this script becouse my modem is so damn bad that it doesn't even have internal permanent memory, so I need to upload the firmware and dial through a script everytime I want to connect | 02:45 |
| FFighter | it doesn't have "a life of its own" | 02:46 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Ok, what if we enable connections from .0.01 in firestarter? I'll admit I'm guessing at this point. | 02:48 |
| FFighter | inbound conn. ? | 02:50 |
| FFighter | inbound conn. ? | 02:50 |
| n2diy | FFighter: I guess? | 02:50 |
| n2diy | FFighter: any other options? | 02:50 |
| FFighter | n2diy, it is still blocking my internet connection when I enable the firewall | 02:51 |
| FFighter | there's outbound connections | 02:51 |
| FFighter | but outbound is set to permissive ... I guess that means there's a "blacklist" | 02:52 |
| n2diy | ok, what do you have for outbound policy, I have permissive set, and nothing else in the boxes. | 02:52 |
| FFighter | the same as yours | 02:53 |
| n2diy | FFighter: And when you enable the firewall, you can't chat here? | 02:54 |
| FFighter | no | 02:54 |
| FFighter | internet connections goes blocked | 02:54 |
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| n2diy | FFighter: Does the bridge have a config file, or something? | 02:55 |
| FFighter | hmmm... not that I know... the only reference I have is the tutorial I told you | 02:55 |
| FFighter | it is created the time I run the "dial" script | 02:56 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Ok, let me take another look at it. | 02:56 |
| FFighter | allright... no hurry ;) | 02:56 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Do you have an external modem handy? | 03:01 |
| FFighter | what is a handy ? | 03:02 |
| FFighter | oh, you mean another modem to test ? | 03:03 |
| n2diy | FFighter: That you could hook up to your box now? Yes, eliminate the bridge. | 03:03 |
| FFighter | no, I don't :( | 03:03 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Ok, I'm at a loss, I'm suspecting the bridge, since it is sending the pings, but no idea why? Maybe there is a Speedtouch list, or email list, google, etc...? | 03:05 |
| FFighter | n2diy, Ok, Thanks anyway, really appreciated your help | 03:06 |
| FFighter | thanks for your time... I will take a look somewhere else and see if there's a speedtouch list or something | 03:06 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Your more then welcome, it was fun. Let me know what you find out? n2diy@losch.net. | 03:06 |
| FFighter | n2diy, Yes, of course, I will email you once I get something | 03:07 |
| n2diy | FFighter: and quit herding cats, solve one problem at a time! | 03:07 |
| FFighter | haha | 03:07 |
| FFighter | ok, thanks for the advice! | 03:07 |
| FFighter | ^^ | 03:07 |
| n2diy | FFighter: :) | 03:08 |
| FFighter | have a good evening (well, at least it is evening here :) | 03:08 |
| n2diy | FFighter: Same here in E. Pa., we're getting clobbered with T-Storms, so I have to shut down anyway. | 03:09 |
| n2diy | 73 | 03:09 |
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| kadaz | !easysource | 04:34 |
| ubotu | source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic | 04:34 |
| kadaz | what the command to save a file @ console? | 05:07 |
| kadaz | txt file | 05:08 |
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| nalioth | Flannel: there is no such animal as a "windows MBR" | 05:25 |
| nalioth | microsoft does not use anything in the MBR. | 05:25 |
| Flannel | windows has it's own bootloader in the MBR | 05:25 |
| Flannel | which grub stage1 overwrites, right? | 05:25 |
| nalioth | no, it doesn't | 05:25 |
| nalioth | windows uses a bootable hidden file in the root of the hard drive | 05:26 |
| nalioth | not the /mbr | 05:26 |
| nalioth | if one has linux and windows installed, all one has to do to become a windows only system again is wipe the mbr | 05:26 |
| Flannel | since when? | 05:26 |
| nalioth | XP does it this way | 05:27 |
| nalioth | i've not gotten hold of a Vista system to check | 05:27 |
| nalioth | w2k does it that way | 05:27 |
| Flannel | so, fixmbr just zeros the MBR? | 05:27 |
| nalioth | w95/98 does it | 05:27 |
| nalioth | i usually fdisk the mbr | 05:27 |
| Flannel | since, that's NEVER been te instructions we've given to restore windows | 05:27 |
| nalioth | i speak from experience | 05:28 |
| nalioth | there is no such animal | 05:28 |
| tonyyarusso | interesting | 05:31 |
| Flannel | nalioth: the interblags don't seem to agree with you. | 05:33 |
| nalioth | Flannel: as you wish. i've done enough windows/linux stuff. i've never seen windows do ANYthing with the MBR | 05:48 |
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| n2diy | nalioth, are still here? | 06:32 |
| nalioth | n2diy: i am | 06:32 |
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| n2diy | nalioth, Roger, when I was working with FFighter, I thought it was ok to dump is ifconfig here since thing seemed to be quit, was that ok? | 06:33 |
| n2diy | thing/things | 06:34 |
| n2diy | quit/quite | 06:34 |
| n2diy | I'd better lay down? | 06:34 |
| n2diy | is/his | 06:35 |
| n2diy | man, what is wrong with my keyboard? :) | 06:35 |
| nalioth | n2diy: better in a pastebin (pastebins last longer) but if you have to paste in a channel, this one is better than #ubuntu :D | 06:36 |
| n2diy | nalioth, yes, that is why I suggested he come over here. He was having trouble with the standard pastebin. | 06:37 |
| nalioth | then send them to non standard ones :) pastebin.ca pastebin.com rafb etc | 06:38 |
| n2diy | nalioth, I wasn't aware of them, but he found one. | 06:39 |
| nalioth | it's ok to paste a bit in here, but it is really more helpful for all concerned to use a pastebin | 06:40 |
| n2diy | nalioth, Yes, understood. I prefer to keep stuff on channel in #Ubuntu, but since he couldn't access pastebin, I suggested he come over here , and dump the output of is ifconfig. It was quite here, so I was hoping it would be a no harm, no foul situation. | 06:43 |
| nalioth | not a problem :) | 06:45 |
| n2diy | 10-4 take care. ttyl. | 06:46 |
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