=== n2diy_ [n=darryl@ppp-42d428f3.wlks.losch.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === FFighter [n=Marcelo@200.193.3.42] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [01:18] n2diy_, Are you there ? [01:19] FFighter: yep [01:19] Do you know any other pastebin web app I could use ? [01:19] FFighter: no I don't, lets take a chance and try it here? [01:19] hmmm [01:20] all right [01:20] eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0C:6E:CE:ED:C2 [01:20] inet addr:192.168.0.2 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 [01:20] UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 [01:20] RX packets:302 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 [01:20] TX packets:78 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 [01:20] collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 [01:20] RX bytes:60050 (58.6 KiB) TX bytes:11472 (11.2 KiB) [01:20] Interrupt:18 [01:20] eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:26:54:13:3B:20 [01:20] UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 [01:20] RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 [01:20] TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 [01:20] collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 [01:20] RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) [01:20] Interrupt:17 Base address:0x8000 [01:20] lo Link encap:Local Loopback [01:20] inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 [01:20] inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host [01:20] UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 [01:20] RX packets:38243 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 [01:20] TX packets:38243 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 [01:20] collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 [01:20] RX bytes:2125453 (2.0 MiB) TX bytes:2125453 (2.0 MiB) [01:20] nas0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:90:D0:2E:B9:A2 [01:20] inet addr:192.168.0.1 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 [01:20] inet6 addr: fe80::290:d0ff:fe2e:b9a2/64 Scope:Link [01:20] UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 [01:20] RX packets:195455 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 [01:21] TX packets:168225 errors:321 dropped:0 overruns:321 carrier:0 [01:21] collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 [01:21] RX bytes:236630891 (225.6 MiB) TX bytes:24129742 (23.0 MiB) [01:21] ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol [01:21] inet addr:200.138.244.156 P-t-P:200.138.242.254 Mask:255.255.255.255 [01:21] UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1492 Metric:1 [01:21] RX packets:658 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 [01:21] TX packets:59 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carr [01:21] hmm.. a part is missing [01:21] just a min, I've found another pastebin-like website [01:22] FFighter: we don't need it now! :) [01:22] http://pastebin.4programmers.net/2371 [01:23] anyway, I pasted it there... there's also ppp1 besides ppp0 [01:23] that was the part missing [01:23] ;) [01:24] whoa. [01:24] FFighter: are you a fire fighter? [01:25] n2diy_, No, FireFox Fighter [01:25] =) [01:25] FFighter: ok, what is nas0? [01:25] n2diy_, good question, I think it is a network bridge [01:25] my modem demands this kind of connection [01:26] FFighter: ok, so how many ethernet cards are installed on your box? [01:27] it was created by a dial script I created... I followed this tutorial: http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ [01:27] n2diy_, Two [01:28] n2diy_, I'm using eth0 to connect to the XP machine [01:29] FFighter: ok, are you Squirreli in the forum post? [01:29] n2diy_, No, I'm not in that post [01:29] I use the same nickname on ubuntu forums (FFighter) [01:30] FFighter: ok, let me look at the Speedtouch link. [01:30] the url I sent you ? [01:31] FFighter: yes [01:31] ok [01:32] FFighter: one thing I see is eth1 doesn't have an ip address assigned to it. [01:33] FFighter: and what version of Ubuntu are you using? [01:33] n2diy_, Actually the IP I set the IP on eth0 using ifconfig eth0 [01:33] n2diy_, Feisty [01:33] FFighter: what is eth1 connected to? [01:33] n2diy_, nothing [01:33] only eth0 is being used [01:34] FFighter: ok, can you ping eth0? [01:34] locally ? [01:34] FFighter: yes [01:34] yes [01:34] I can ping [01:34] FFighter: can you ping the XP box? [01:35] well, the XP box is set up with a static IP -> 192.168.0.3 (255.255.255.0 submask) [01:35] I can't ping there [01:35] "Host Unreachable" [01:35] FFighter: ok, so try ping 192.16.0.3 [01:36] 16/168 [01:36] I did [01:36] FFighter: no errors? [01:36] It doesn't reach there [01:36] root@marcelo-desktop:/var# ping 192.168.0.3 [01:36] PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. [01:36] From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable [01:36] From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable [01:36] From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable [01:36] From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable [01:36] From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable [01:36] From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachabl [01:36] FFighter: pinging the XP box fails, ok. [01:38] FFighter: I hope you know how to play in XP? [01:38] n2diy_, Yes, of course, always used windows before [01:39] FFighter: Ok, I've been Microsoft free since 95. Can the XP box ping its ethernet card? [01:39] Actually, just making Ubuntu and XP ping themselves would be a great step [01:39] =) [01:39] FFighter: Yep, that is the first step in troubleshooting a network. [01:39] No, it can't... just tried it... even though XP says that the connection is up and that packets are being sent [01:40] weird. It says "Local connection is connected 100Mbps" [01:41] but I can't reach here [01:41] FFighter: I love Windows! :) What happens when you pull the ethernet cable off the XP box, does it realize it lost the connection? [01:41] I will try it [01:41] just a min [01:42] surprisingly it does detect - "A network cable has been disconected" [01:43] so does ubuntu [01:43] FFighter: Can the XP box ping itself with the cable disconnected? [01:44] Ubuntu just said popped up the following message "You are now connected to the wired netword" [01:44] FFighter: ok, try my previous. [01:45] no! The output of ipconfig says that the "media is disconnected" [01:45] FFighter: What!!!??? Ubuntu thinks it is connected, after the connection was broken, weird. Anyway, XP needs to be able to ping itself. [01:46] Wait.. I had plugged the wire again just before [01:46] that's why ubuntu said it was connected [01:46] FFighter: So XP can't ping its own ethernet card? [01:46] I unplugged it again now to test the XP ping thing [01:46] FFighter: Ok, I thought I was going nuts. [01:47] Well... I can ping localhost, but not the IP I had set up (192.168.0.3) [01:47] FFighter: XP has a lo? [01:47] yep, it does [01:48] 127.0.0.1 [01:48] FFighter: Interesting. Sounds like the XP card is configured. [01:48] is/isn't [01:48] is or ins't ? [01:48] isn't* [01:49] FFighter: Isn't configured [01:49] oh ok [01:49] hmmm... so you think the problem is at the XP side [01:50] what could I do then ? [01:50] FFighter: yes I do. [01:51] FFighter: Oh what is it called device manager? Does that show anything about the ethernet card? [01:51] on windows ? [01:51] Would you like to see the hardware specs of the card ? [01:51] FFighter: yes. [01:52] I will take a look, hold on [01:52] FFighter: no, the specs. won't help us. [01:53] RealTek RTL8139 - it says the device is installed and working correctly [01:54] FFighter: :/ [01:54] Could it be something related to iptables not allowing the connections ? [01:55] I'm lost becouse I don't really understand networking nor how Linux handles all that [01:55] FFighter: But when you go to a command prompt, and enter ping 192.168.0.3 it fails? [01:55] yes it does [01:55] But only when the wire is disconnected [01:55] I mean [01:55] it also fails when the wire is connected, but it is a different "error" [01:56] when the wire is connected, it says that the host is unreachable [01:56] FFighter: what's it say when it is disconnected? [01:57] when the write is disconnected, it says also says host unreachable, but ipconfig shows a "disconnected media" message [01:57] When I connect it again, both machine detect that the there is a network [01:58] That's why I thought that it could be something related to firewalling (maybe a miss-configured iptables)? [01:58] FFighter: Ok, have double check this, when at the XP box, you can't ping 192.168.0.3? [01:59] I'm sorry, when I told you that I couldn't ping 192.168.0.3 when the wire was up, I was wrong... [01:59] I actually can ping 192.168.0.3 when the wire is connected **only** [02:00] 192.168.0.3 being the static IP set on the XP network settings for the local connection [02:00] FFighter: When at the XP box? [02:00] yes [02:00] only when at the XP box... I tried also pinging here (192.168.0.2) from there, but couldn't [02:00] pinging 192.168.0,3 from here also doesn't work [02:00] "Host unreachable" [02:01] FFighter: And the XP and Ubuntu boxes are connected directly together when the network is in normal operation? [02:02] There's no LAN... I have only internet access here on my ubuntu box.. the LAN doesn't work [02:02] even though both computers say that there's a connection... but I can't reach each other [02:03] Here's something interesting: [02:03] FFighter: That doesn't answer my question. :) How are the two boxes connected together? [02:03] Oh sorry [02:03] n2diy, wired ethernet (directly) [02:03] no hubs, no routers [02:04] The Active Connection Dialog says that eth0 is connected, the speed is 100 Mb/s and driver is "forcedeth" but all IPs (from IP address to Secondary DNS) show 0.0.0.0 [02:04] FFighter: Ok, the Realtec 8139 is an older ethernet card(I'm using one), and I believe, you need a crossover cable to do a direct connect to it. [02:05] hmmm... but why did it work fine when I had XP here (both LAN and Internet Connection Sharing) [02:06] FFighter: This network worked, when your Ubuntu box was an XP box!? [02:06] n2diy, Yes! [02:06] And it was pretty straightforward to set up [02:07] I just made the switch to ubuntu (last week) [02:07] FFighter: Eye yigh yigh! [02:07] what does that mean? :) (sorry but english is not my mother tongue!) [02:07] FFighter: ok, do you have Firestarter installed? [02:07] No, it isn't installed [02:08] I have only installed the tools in the forum post I mentioned [02:08] FFighter: ok, you might want to install it, it is a GUI front end for iptables. [02:08] like guidedog ? [02:09] FFighter: not familiar with guidedog. [02:09] all right, will install firestarter [02:10] ok, I'm running it now [02:11] FFighter: Ok, see the policy tab, click on that, then click in the allow connections box. [02:11] Should I check "Start the firewall on dial-out" ? [02:12] FFighter: Ignore that for now. [02:12] hMM... I liked the "Enable Internet connecton sharing" option :D [02:12] I ticked it, ok ? [02:12] Should I enable DHCP for the local network ? [02:13] FFighter: Ok, see the policy tab, click on that, then click in the allow connections box. Have you done this? [02:13] hmmm... [02:14] If I try to select eth0 for the connection sharing it displays an error message: The local area and the internet connected devices cannot be the same [02:14] I guess that ppp0 is linked to eth0 through nas0 then [02:14] I should use eth1 I think [02:14] What do you think ? [02:14] FFighter: Don't go herding cats on me. Eth1 isn't connected to anything!! Click on the policy tab!!!! [02:15] n2diy, I know! But maybe I should be connecting through eth1 then [02:15] ok, I will select eth1 for connection sharing (I can't choose eth0 anyway) [02:15] FFighter: Click on the policy tab. [02:16] ok, I'm there [02:16] FFighter: Click in the allow connections box, and inter the XP box's ip address. [02:17] just a note: It failed to start the firewall... it said eth0 "is not ready" [02:17] inter/enter [02:17] FFighter: Ok, wait. [02:18] FFighter: can you ping 192.168.0.2? === merriam_ [n=merriam@85-211-245-180.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:19] hmmm... I can't now [02:19] FFighter: WTF? :) ok, enter ifup eth0 [02:20] Ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0. [02:20] FFighter: WTF? :) ok, enter ifdown eth0? [02:20] actually it has lost its configurations when the network went down [02:21] I set up the 192.168.0.2 IP for eth0 through ifconfig [02:21] when the network went down and up again, it has loaded its default settings I think [02:21] I don't know how to make these settings permanent yet [02:21] FFighter: ok, reconfigure it. [02:21] Allright [02:22] ok, pinging [02:23] n2diy, Now the firewall says it is active [02:23] FFighter: you can ping 0.2 and 0.3? [02:23] oops... no longer [02:23] how weird [02:23] FFighter: now what happened? [02:24] I don't know.. I will restart the network, just a min [02:27] I have to go check my weather radar, so when you responded, make sure you use my nick so I'm alerted to it. [02:28] FFighter: I have to go check my weather radar, so when you responded, make sure you use my nick so I'm alerted to it. [02:30] ok, restarted and the firewall is up again [02:30] I had to manually select ppp0 as the "Internet connection network device" [02:30] I can ping 192.168.0.2 [02:30] root@marcelo-desktop:/var# ping 192.168.0.3 [02:30] PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. [02:30] ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted [02:30] ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted [02:30] what does that mean ? [02:31] n2diy, Are you still here ? [02:31] n2diy, Are you still here ? [02:31] FFighter: yep [02:31] n2diy, It somehow affected my internet connection, I disabled the firewall [02:32] FFighter: ppp0 is your dial up connection, eth0 is your ethernet connection. [02:32] I guess so [02:33] But nas0 is still a mystery [02:33] Maybe it is a bridge between ppp0 and eth0 ? [02:33] FFighter: so eth0 should be selected as your network device. [02:34] in firestarter ? Ok, I did it [02:34] and ppp0 for internet [02:34] when I start the firewall, the internet conn. seems to go down [02:34] Is there some policy I should create to allow the internet connection to function properly ? [02:35] FFighter: your herding cats again, we can't troubleshoot your lan, and internet connection at the same time, and hope to remain sane. [02:35] ok ok ... sorry [02:36] its just that I'm trying to solve since last week... sorry for that [02:36] FFighter: and obviously ppp0 is working, or we wouldn't be talking to each other, right? [02:36] yes, now that firestarter is off [02:36] =) [02:36] FFighter: firestarter is off, or the fire wall is off? [02:37] I meant the firewall... [02:38] FFighter: ok, did you allow 0.03 to connect in firestarter? Did it stick? [02:39] What do you mean by "stick" ? [02:39] if I was able to ping here from XP ? [02:39] FFighter: It didn't change. Can you ping the other way? [02:40] When I try to ping 192.168.0,3, it actually tries to ping 192.168.0.1... why does it routes 192.168.0.3 to 0.1 ? [02:40] root@marcelo-desktop:/var# ping 192.168.0.3 [02:40] PING 192.168.0.3 (192.168.0.3) 56(84) bytes of data. [02:40] From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable [02:40] From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable [02:40] From 192.168.0.1 icmp_seq=4 Destination Host Unreachable [02:42] FFighter: 0.01 is the bridge! Why are you using a bridge? Is it a physical device, or software? [02:42] software [02:42] The dial script I use creates it [02:42] (nas0) [02:42] as I was told to do by the tutorial I sent you [02:42] FFighter: why do you need a dial script? [02:43] http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/index.html [02:43] FFighter: wait, I'm loading it. [02:43] It's the bootscript ... [02:45] I think I need this script becouse my modem is so damn bad that it doesn't even have internal permanent memory, so I need to upload the firmware and dial through a script everytime I want to connect [02:46] it doesn't have "a life of its own" [02:48] FFighter: Ok, what if we enable connections from .0.01 in firestarter? I'll admit I'm guessing at this point. [02:50] inbound conn. ? [02:50] inbound conn. ? [02:50] FFighter: I guess? [02:50] FFighter: any other options? [02:51] n2diy, it is still blocking my internet connection when I enable the firewall [02:51] there's outbound connections [02:52] but outbound is set to permissive ... I guess that means there's a "blacklist" [02:52] ok, what do you have for outbound policy, I have permissive set, and nothing else in the boxes. [02:53] the same as yours [02:54] FFighter: And when you enable the firewall, you can't chat here? [02:54] no [02:54] internet connections goes blocked === porthose [n=charliej@72.24.69.50] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [02:55] FFighter: Does the bridge have a config file, or something? [02:55] hmmm... not that I know... the only reference I have is the tutorial I told you [02:56] it is created the time I run the "dial" script [02:56] FFighter: Ok, let me take another look at it. [02:56] allright... no hurry ;) [03:01] FFighter: Do you have an external modem handy? [03:02] what is a handy ? [03:03] oh, you mean another modem to test ? [03:03] FFighter: That you could hook up to your box now? Yes, eliminate the bridge. [03:03] no, I don't :( [03:05] FFighter: Ok, I'm at a loss, I'm suspecting the bridge, since it is sending the pings, but no idea why? Maybe there is a Speedtouch list, or email list, google, etc...? [03:06] n2diy, Ok, Thanks anyway, really appreciated your help [03:06] thanks for your time... I will take a look somewhere else and see if there's a speedtouch list or something [03:06] FFighter: Your more then welcome, it was fun. Let me know what you find out? n2diy@losch.net. [03:07] n2diy, Yes, of course, I will email you once I get something [03:07] FFighter: and quit herding cats, solve one problem at a time! [03:07] haha [03:07] ok, thanks for the advice! [03:07] ^^ [03:08] FFighter: :) [03:08] have a good evening (well, at least it is evening here :) [03:09] FFighter: Same here in E. Pa., we're getting clobbered with T-Storms, so I have to shut down anyway. [03:09] 73 === croppa [n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom === _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db443c9.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [04:34] !easysource [04:34] source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic [05:07] what the command to save a file @ console? [05:08] txt file === Flannel [n=flannel@cpe-76-176-22-229.san.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [05:25] Flannel: there is no such animal as a "windows MBR" [05:25] microsoft does not use anything in the MBR. [05:25] windows has it's own bootloader in the MBR [05:25] which grub stage1 overwrites, right? [05:25] no, it doesn't [05:26] windows uses a bootable hidden file in the root of the hard drive [05:26] not the /mbr [05:26] if one has linux and windows installed, all one has to do to become a windows only system again is wipe the mbr [05:26] since when? [05:27] XP does it this way [05:27] i've not gotten hold of a Vista system to check [05:27] w2k does it that way [05:27] so, fixmbr just zeros the MBR? [05:27] w95/98 does it [05:27] i usually fdisk the mbr [05:27] since, that's NEVER been te instructions we've given to restore windows [05:28] i speak from experience [05:28] there is no such animal [05:31] interesting [05:33] nalioth: the interblags don't seem to agree with you. [05:48] Flannel: as you wish. i've done enough windows/linux stuff. i've never seen windows do ANYthing with the MBR === croppa [n=stuart@135.27.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [06:32] nalioth, are still here? [06:32] n2diy: i am === ke4nt [n=viny1@dialup-4.253.36.41.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-classroom [06:33] nalioth, Roger, when I was working with FFighter, I thought it was ok to dump is ifconfig here since thing seemed to be quit, was that ok? [06:34] thing/things [06:34] quit/quite [06:34] I'd better lay down? [06:35] is/his [06:35] man, what is wrong with my keyboard? :) [06:36] n2diy: better in a pastebin (pastebins last longer) but if you have to paste in a channel, this one is better than #ubuntu :D [06:37] nalioth, yes, that is why I suggested he come over here. He was having trouble with the standard pastebin. [06:38] then send them to non standard ones :) pastebin.ca pastebin.com rafb etc [06:39] nalioth, I wasn't aware of them, but he found one. [06:40] it's ok to paste a bit in here, but it is really more helpful for all concerned to use a pastebin [06:43] nalioth, Yes, understood. I prefer to keep stuff on channel in #Ubuntu, but since he couldn't access pastebin, I suggested he come over here , and dump the output of is ifconfig. It was quite here, so I was hoping it would be a no harm, no foul situation. 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