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unhappy | where i can read about Kconfig files | 03:44 |
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pmjdebruijn | unhappy, I have no clue, but usually I look for examples in other Kconfig files to suit my needs | 03:46 |
unhappy | ok | 03:47 |
pmjdebruijn | unhappy, sorry, that wasn't extremely helpful I know... but it's the best I can do... maybe wait around for someone else to suggest something | 03:48 |
unhappy | maybe you know, do i have to somethink after editing kconfig file, to see changes in make menuconfig? | 03:48 |
unhappy | *to do | 03:48 |
pmjdebruijn | not that I know of | 03:48 |
pmjdebruijn | unhappy, I should show right away | 03:48 |
pmjdebruijn | unhappy, I could be that you need to add something at a lower level | 03:48 |
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cofeineSunshine | thxn | 03:50 |
cofeineSunshine | damn, forgot my nickserv passwd | 03:51 |
cofeineSunshine | trying to build drivers for my wireless card | 03:51 |
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VoX | where would i report an ubuntu kernel bug? | 03:51 |
pmjdebruijn | VoX, www.launchpad.net just like all the other bugs, just file it against the kernel package you are currently using | 03:54 |
VoX | nod | 03:54 |
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sits | Hi, can someone fill me in on what direction https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/116996 is going to take? | 08:32 |
sits | oops wrong bug | 08:33 |
sits | Bug #117314 | 08:33 |
sits | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/117314 | 08:34 |
sits | Is the current thinking that all associated bugs are to be closed when the -17 kernel is released? | 08:36 |
sits | And what's the current advice to be given to people who have yet to upgrade to -16 but are ICH4/ICH5 owners? | 08:36 |
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lupo527 | hello | 10:10 |
lupo527 | got a question about getting into kernel development | 10:11 |
lupo527 | anybody there :) | 10:13 |
kraut | no, sorry | 10:14 |
lupo527 | heh | 10:14 |
kraut | you should point your question more specific | 10:14 |
lupo527 | hey i am wanting to get into kernel dev and i was wondering if there is anything wrong with doing it in vmware | 10:15 |
lupo527 | if i just wanted to develop for the x86 arch for example is there any problem with doing kernel dev in a virtual machine as opposed to real hardware? | 10:15 |
kraut | not really, depends if you want to develope hardware-drivers or just other things. | 10:16 |
lupo527 | more interested in things like the scheduler and memory management | 10:17 |
lupo527 | and i have limited hardware options | 10:17 |
kraut | should be a good possibility to test your stuff, but generally you should do a final test on real-hardware. but anyhow a vmware should be good enough. | 10:18 |
lupo527 | excellent thanks | 10:18 |
lupo527 | i didn't think it would be a problem but i wanted to ask the more experienced ;) | 10:20 |
kraut | i am stupid | 10:20 |
lupo527 | heh but you hand out in kernel dev channels? | 10:21 |
lupo527 | :P | 10:21 |
lupo527 | hang* | 10:21 |
kraut | i am just spamming stupid stuff around | 10:21 |
JanC | lupo527: it's a good way to prevent breaking your system ;) | 10:22 |
JanC | after a kernel upgrade, check this channel for 2 hours, and if there is no invasion of lamenting people, it's probably safe :) | 10:22 |
lupo527 | can i ask a kind of more generic question: how did you guys get started in kernel dev, seems the overhead to getting started is kind of high | 10:23 |
JanC | especially when using the development version | 10:23 |
JanC | I didn't & most likely won't :) | 10:23 |
lupo527 | hard to know where to start | 10:23 |
lupo527 | heh okay ;) | 10:24 |
kraut | JanC: hrhr, cool idea of quality-management *g* | 10:28 |
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sits | lupo527: there's plenty of material out there | 11:29 |
sits | lupo527: I've been trying to crack it for years but haven't gotten to far | 11:29 |
sits | lupo527: you should definitely check out LDD3 | 11:29 |
sits | lupo527: http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ | 11:30 |
sits | lupo527: http://kernelnewbies.org/ also has a slew of material | 11:30 |
sits | lupo527: http://kernelnewbies.org/CareerAdvice seems to be on similar lines to what you're asking about here | 11:31 |
sits | lupo527: if you don't mind looking at something other than Linux check out Minix | 11:32 |
sits | lupo527: http://www.minix3.org/ | 11:32 |
sits | lupo527: because its meant for teaching a lot of the code is simpler to understand than that of Linux (but it doesn't run as fast or do as much or run on as many platforms) | 11:33 |
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sits | (e.g. it's floppy driver doesn't look nearly as ugly as Linux's) | 11:41 |
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