=== lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === johanbr [n=j@blk-224-156-151.eastlink.ca] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl_ [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mdomsch [n=mdomsch@cpe-70-113-73-138.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@220.225.228.97] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === unhappy [n=justinas@85.206.130.39] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === amitk [n=amit@a81-197-135-210.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === cjwatson_ [n=cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/Amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === rtg [n=rtg@rtg.theglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === bleinmono [n=toffel@ppp91-76-73-145.pppoe.mtu-net.ru] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@0-217.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === unhappy [n=justinas@adsl-81-7-91-188.zebra.lt] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === infinity2 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === infinity [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@213.84.213.170] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === m0rg0th [n=m0rg0th@219.64.120.181] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === unhappy [n=justinas@85.206.170.239] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === justinas_ [n=justinas@85.206.170.239] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === n2diy [n=darryl@ppp-42d42999.wlks.losch.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === jovans [n=jovans@p54b0623b.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === mdomsch [n=mdomsch@cpe-70-113-73-138.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === ivoks [n=ivoks@0-217.dsl.iskon.hr] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === kraut [n=kraut@blackhole.packetloss.biz] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sdrik` [n=sdrik@ip-93-4.dsl.newel.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === unhappy [n=justinas@85.206.248.184] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === denis [n=denis@ben67-1-82-242-144-89.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === pkl_ [n=phillip@unaffiliated/pkl/x-764568] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:44] where i can read about Kconfig files [03:46] unhappy, I have no clue, but usually I look for examples in other Kconfig files to suit my needs [03:47] ok [03:48] unhappy, sorry, that wasn't extremely helpful I know... but it's the best I can do... maybe wait around for someone else to suggest something [03:48] maybe you know, do i have to somethink after editing kconfig file, to see changes in make menuconfig? [03:48] *to do [03:48] not that I know of [03:48] unhappy, I should show right away [03:48] unhappy, I could be that you need to add something at a lower level === unhappy is now known as cofeineSunshine === cofeineSunshine is now known as banglas === banglas is now known as cofeineSunshine [03:50] thxn [03:51] damn, forgot my nickserv passwd [03:51] trying to build drivers for my wireless card === VoX [n=vox@unaffiliated/vox] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [03:51] where would i report an ubuntu kernel bug? [03:54] VoX, www.launchpad.net just like all the other bugs, just file it against the kernel package you are currently using [03:54] nod === pmjdebruijn [n=pmjdebru@213.84.213.170] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Keybuk [n=scott@wing-commander.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Keybuk [n=scott@wing-commander.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === Keybuk [n=scott@wing-commander.netsplit.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491D4C1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-088-074-017-090.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sits [n=sits@87.112.74.195.plusnet.ptn-ag2.dyn.plus.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === zul_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [08:32] Hi, can someone fill me in on what direction https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/116996 is going to take? [08:33] oops wrong bug [08:33] Bug #117314 [08:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/117314 [08:36] Is the current thinking that all associated bugs are to be closed when the -17 kernel is released? [08:36] And what's the current advice to be given to people who have yet to upgrade to -16 but are ICH4/ICH5 owners? === n2diy_ [n=darryl@ppp-42d42915.wlks.losch.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lfittl [n=lfittl@2001:6f8:107e:40:213:2ff:fe05:abdb] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === lupo527 [n=dmc@c-71-203-202-188.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [10:10] hello [10:11] got a question about getting into kernel development [10:13] anybody there :) [10:14] no, sorry [10:14] heh [10:14] you should point your question more specific [10:15] hey i am wanting to get into kernel dev and i was wondering if there is anything wrong with doing it in vmware [10:15] if i just wanted to develop for the x86 arch for example is there any problem with doing kernel dev in a virtual machine as opposed to real hardware? [10:16] not really, depends if you want to develope hardware-drivers or just other things. [10:17] more interested in things like the scheduler and memory management [10:17] and i have limited hardware options [10:18] should be a good possibility to test your stuff, but generally you should do a final test on real-hardware. but anyhow a vmware should be good enough. [10:18] excellent thanks [10:20] i didn't think it would be a problem but i wanted to ask the more experienced ;) [10:20] i am stupid [10:21] heh but you hand out in kernel dev channels? [10:21] :P [10:21] hang* [10:21] i am just spamming stupid stuff around [10:22] lupo527: it's a good way to prevent breaking your system ;) [10:22] after a kernel upgrade, check this channel for 2 hours, and if there is no invasion of lamenting people, it's probably safe :) [10:23] can i ask a kind of more generic question: how did you guys get started in kernel dev, seems the overhead to getting started is kind of high [10:23] especially when using the development version [10:23] I didn't & most likely won't :) [10:23] hard to know where to start [10:24] heh okay ;) [10:28] JanC: hrhr, cool idea of quality-management *g* === gicmo [n=gicmo@p5491C4AE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === okaratas [n=ozgurk@fsf/member/okaratas] has joined #ubuntu-kernel === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:29] lupo527: there's plenty of material out there [11:29] lupo527: I've been trying to crack it for years but haven't gotten to far [11:29] lupo527: you should definitely check out LDD3 [11:30] lupo527: http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/ [11:30] lupo527: http://kernelnewbies.org/ also has a slew of material [11:31] lupo527: http://kernelnewbies.org/CareerAdvice seems to be on similar lines to what you're asking about here [11:32] lupo527: if you don't mind looking at something other than Linux check out Minix [11:32] lupo527: http://www.minix3.org/ [11:33] lupo527: because its meant for teaching a lot of the code is simpler to understand than that of Linux (but it doesn't run as fast or do as much or run on as many platforms) === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-kernel [11:41] (e.g. it's floppy driver doesn't look nearly as ugly as Linux's)