[05:09] <boredandblogging> beuno: ping
[10:03] <beuno> boredandblogging: ping
[10:04] <beuno> and a nice hello  :D
[10:04] <Burgundavia> hey beuno
[10:05] <beuno> hey Burgundavia!
[10:05] <beuno> hwo are you?
[10:05] <beuno> I've heard rumours that not-so-well
[10:05] <Burgundavia> I had my wisdom teeth out, all 4
[10:05] <Burgundavia> so I am in a bit of pain
[10:05] <beuno> ooooh... never fun
[10:06] <beuno> I had 2 of em pulled out, waited a full year before going after the other two
[10:06] <Burgundavia> they had been out for 5 years, so it was not a complicated surgery
[10:07] <Burgundavia> beuno: have you heard of the idea of creating a -news team?
[10:07] <beuno> ah, mine had grown horizontaly, not easy to pull out
[10:07] <beuno> Burgundavia: yeap, I answered several times to the thread
[10:07] <beuno> I like the idea  :D
[10:07] <beuno> I think it's a perfect fit
[10:08] <beuno> will let -marketing concentrate on -marketing, and -news o -news
[10:08] <Burgundavia> right, didn't remember if you had
[10:08] <Burgundavia> is good
[10:08] <Burgundavia> bring the fridge and the UWN under one roof is a good idea too
[10:09] <beuno> yes, absolutely, will help put the focus on hunting for news
[10:10] <beuno> my only concern is for it to be either a subteam of -marketing, or have a very close relationaship with -marketing
[10:10] <beuno> a lot of what this team does will benefit from what -news team does/knows
[10:11] <Burgundavia> my only concern was having too many teams as well
[10:12] <Burgundavia> but if you build it, they will come
[10:12] <beuno> yay!   whispered support!
[10:13] <beuno> yeah, I think my actual work is mostly done on -news side, besides building the release pages for each alpha/beta
[10:13] <beuno> -marketing's goals should probably be made a bit clearer for users to understad where they would fit in best
[10:14] <Burgundavia> the release pages are still marketing, I think
[10:14] <beuno> yeah, and they should be
[10:15] <beuno> that's a good example on how the -news team would fit in with -marketing
[10:15] <beuno> they build up so much knowledge on the development process, that it would be a shame to waste it just because it's a different team
[10:15] <Burgundavia> -news is UWN, Fridge and the news stuff ont eh website
[10:16] <Burgundavia> marketing becomes diy, release pages and any other projects
[10:16] <beuno> yeap, sounds right
[10:17] <beuno> how would this be pushed forward then?
[10:18] <Burgundavia> well, we would need to create a ubuntu-news-team list
[10:18] <Burgundavia> and then create a wiki page and then announce it
[10:18] <beuno> and a launchpad team
[10:18] <Burgundavia> yep
[10:19] <beuno> ok...  you or me?   :D
[10:19] <Burgundavia> either
[10:19] <Burgundavia> or mdke
[10:19] <beuno> I've heard horror stories on getting mailing lists setup
[10:20] <Burgundavia> mostly it is because the canonical people are crazy busy
[10:20] <Burgundavia> I know jono is taking over some of that?
[10:20] <beuno> yeap yeap, I got the -ar one setup pretty quickly, but that was close to a year ago
[10:22] <beuno> ok, well, I'll start the wiki, request the ML, launchpad group, and the email the list with all the links so we can start building it
[10:22] <beuno> sound good?
[10:22] <Burgundavia> sounds good
[10:22] <Burgundavia> make myself and mkde admins of the -news LP group
[10:22] <Burgundavia> and btw, I now have the -marketing list password
[10:22] <Burgundavia> just need to dig out my key to get it
[10:23] <beuno> will do
[10:23] <beuno> aah, great, that makes sense  :D
[10:23] <beuno> who had it before?
[10:23] <Burgundavia> nobody int eh comunity
[10:23] <Burgundavia> but I really need to get rid of -devel-discuss and -users
[10:24] <beuno> I got rid of those a while ago... too much to read through
[10:26] <beuno> oh, btw, I did some more work on the "reporting at conferences spec", and got the scribes team behind it   :D
[10:26] <beuno> they added quite a bit themselfs...
[10:26] <Burgundavia> excellent
[10:26] <Burgundavia> they would be the perfect team to do such a thing
[10:27] <beuno> yeah, we talked about how to coordinate on-site and off-site work
[10:31] <beuno> when do you think we can start pushing such a spec?
[10:32] <Burgundavia> well, I would chat with jono
[10:32] <Burgundavia> he is the person that controls sending people to conferences, so getting his feedback woudl be a good thing
[10:32] <beuno> "I" as in "you" or as in "me"?
[10:33] <Burgundavia> either of us
[10:34] <beuno> oki doke, I'll keep an eye out for him then
[10:34] <Burgundavia> I would just email him
[10:36] <beuno> right, thanks, I will
[10:38] <beuno> -news launchpad team is setup with you and mdke as admins, wiki page is started, and I'm firing the ML request now
[10:38] <Burgundavia> excellent
[10:38] <Burgundavia> then we need to announce it
[10:39] <beuno> shouldn't we wait for the ML to be setup?
[10:40] <Burgundavia> yep, we should
[10:40] <Burgundavia> wonder if we shouldn't just rename fridge-devel
[10:41] <beuno> yeah, it would make no sense to have both
[10:41] <beuno> can we do that without an admin?
[10:41] <Burgundavia> if you are a fridge-devel admin, I believe so
[10:42] <Burgundavia> but that would require more conversaion
[10:43] <Burgundavia> I would bring that idea up on the fridge-devel mailknig list
[11:33] <boredandblogging> beuno: looking at the old CC member approval bios the wiki, we seem to link to their launchpad accounts, might be more interesting for readers if we link to their wiki pages
[11:35] <beuno> boredandblogging: absolutely, it would give people a much better idea
[11:35] <boredandblogging> ok, also, whats the url for the -news launchpad team?
[11:35] <beuno> boredandblogging: add #ubuntu-news to your auto-join  :D
[11:35] <boredandblogging> ahh, cool