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alexisesmais le problaime c'est que je n'ai qu'as ma disposition les sources du programme et les resources avec le programme compiller12:13
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alexisesdonc je suis tirrailler que faire pour respecter la dbian polyci qui dit de ne pas modifier les sources12:14
jussi01hmmm, now what that in english?12:14
alexisesho sorry12:14
alexisesfor my englis12:15
alexisesi repeat in englis12:15
jussi01ok12:15
alexisesi have creat  debian package for ubuntu it is a mmorpg tranlath in french12:15
alexisesi must creat 2 package 12:15
alexiseslendes eternelle and landes eternelle date12:16
alexisesi have  problaim to repecte the dedbian policy12:16
bashelieralexises: date ?12:16
alexisesdata 12:16
bashelierok12:16
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alexisesi have 1 zip that the c source code and 1 zip that  compille source code and the file to execute correctely the program12:18
alexisesthenks for your help and sorry i have don't read that is  english chanel12:18
jussi01alexises: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing ??12:20
alexisesno thenks12:20
alexisesi have make an error ?12:21
alexises*do12:21
jussi01alexises: I dont know, but if you havent read that, you should :D12:22
alexisesok i have read  hoxto in french12:23
bashelierjussi01: ^^"12:23
jussi01bashelier: ??12:24
bashelieralexises: what is the problem exactly ?12:24
bashelierjussi01: nothing, just about what you have just said :)12:24
alexisesi donc know to do to respecte the debian policy12:24
jussi01hehe :D12:24
jussi01alexises: which part of the policy?12:25
alexisesi have 2 archiev one in a sources code and oine to the resources and the compil programm12:25
bashelieralexises: well, you should perhaps read it first, and then tell us what is the problem with your package12:25
alexisesdon't modyfy the original tar.gz12:25
alexisesok12:26
bashelieralexises: you can repack the orig tarball, see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-origtargz12:26
alexisesbashelier : would you my dead12:26
alexisesfenks12:27
jussi01alexises: also http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/index.en.html#contents is very useful12:27
bashelieralexises: here are the french translations : http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.fr.html#s-bpp-origtargz and http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/index.fr.html#contents12:28
fernandoCan somebody to review (and upload if ok) http://www.nerdgroup.org/fernando/ubuntu/gutsy/fwbuilder/ ?12:28
alexisesi eat the howto12:29
alexisesit is delichos in french12:29
bashelierfernando: could you please run debuild clean before ? :)12:29
bashelieralexises: good ^^12:30
=== jussi01 is going to bed. goodnight all
basheliersweet dreams jussi01 :)12:31
pochuGood night jussi01!12:31
alexisesok enks i can reampckt the torball thanks12:31
bashelieralexises: np... ^^"12:32
alexisesit is normal for me te fenks for help me 12:32
fernandohey pochu 12:34
pochuhowdy fernando :)12:35
DarkSun88G'night12:37
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fernandobashelier: clean ok12:39
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LaserJockanybody know if seahorse works properly with debuild yet?12:43
RainCTgood night12:43
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bashelierfernando: then why is there still a /tmp directory in debian/ ? :/12:46
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CheatrCould someone here explain to me how to go about fixing unmet dependencies?12:47
blueyedHi.12:47
Cheatrhi12:48
blueyedDoes the following changelog entry look ok? http://paste.lisp.org/display/4212912:48
blueyedCheatr: unmet deps when building a package?12:48
Cheatrblueyed: No, unmet dependencies when installing a package.12:49
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bashelierCheatr: add Dependencies to the binary package ?12:50
blueyedCheatr: please provide a paste of the output/error.12:51
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fernandobashelier: sorry, my rsync fail. Now it's ok.12:51
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bashelierfernando: thanks, looks better now :)12:51
effie_jayxnixternal, ping12:52
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Cheatrbashelier and blueyed: These aren't errors I'm experiencing. I'm interesting in fixing the bugs on launchpad that occur from unmet dependencies. This usually means the package they need is not in the repositories12:52
fernandobug #105495 is not pysycache ? psysycache.org not found12:53
ubotuLaunchpad bug 105495 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  psysycache" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/10549512:53
fernandocan I fix this?12:53
bashelierCheatr: do you have an example ? unmet dependencies are dependencies, which mean packages aire in the repos12:53
Cheatrbashelier: All of the bugs here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.component=4&field.component=3&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream=&field.12:54
Cheatrstatus_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=unmetdeps&field.has_no_package.used=12:54
bashelieroutch12:54
bashelierfernando: packaging psysycache :)12:54
Cheatrbashelier: sorry for the long url: http://tinyurl.com/2ueccz12:54
fernandobashelier: Homepage : http://www.psysycache.org/ don't exists12:55
bashelierfernando: http://www.pysycache.org/, there is an error in the bug repport12:56
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effie_jayxleonel,  ping12:57
blueyedIs it normal that a debdiff uses paths like "/tmp/J679DF6zT0/duplicity-0.4.2/debian/changelog" - this does not work with the "patch -p1" command in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide/BuildFromDebdiff (it would need "-p4")12:57
fernandobashelier: I'm fixing the bug report. I can to package it?12:57
leoneleffie_jayx: pong12:57
fernandos/I\scan/Can\sI/12:57
bashelierCheatr: in this case packages are already in repos, but not installable, which is different, I could be because of conflicts for example12:57
bashelierfernando: 1) package it 2) put it on REVU 3) once you get 2 advocatings, set the bug ad "fix commited" 4) once the package is build, set the bug as "fix realised"12:58
fernandobashelier: ok, thanks12:59
effie_jayxleonel,  could you give me a hand... I have to test build clamav for gutsy it using my pbuilder, make a debdiff, and attach that to a bug so a MOTU can get it an upload it.... can you help me 12:59
bashelierfernando: good luck ;)12:59
fernandothe source is in .zip =)12:59
Cheatrbashelier: Thanks for the clarification.12:59
blueyedfernando: and fix the URL in the bug desc, while you're at it :)12:59
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leoneleffie_jayx: what you need ? 12:59
fernandoblueyed: already fixed01:00
effie_jayxI have donde merge-buildpackage01:00
leoneleffie_jayx: do you want me to download   clamav for gutsy  and test it ?01:00
fernandothe source have 31 MB o001:01
effie_jayxleonel, I am learning ... I need to know where to go next01:01
effie_jayxleonel,  I need to test build it first01:01
leoneleffie_jayx: I don't have gutsy installed    I'm planning to install it  on  sunday to start  testing  things there01:02
effie_jayxleonel,  I have a pbuilder for gutsy01:02
leoneleffie_jayx: hold on  let me install gutsy  now  01:03
leonelgive me  time to do so 01:04
effie_jayxleonel,  you don't have to do that... I can pbuild-gutsy01:05
leonelbut that's for building  isn't it ?01:05
blueyedOk. About the -p4 vs -p1 thing in the debdiff. I've installed patchutils, as suggested by debdiff and now it looks better. JFI.01:05
leonela you want me to build it ?01:05
leonelOK01:05
leonelthat's faster01:05
effie_jayxleonel,  I need to test build it .. yes01:06
effie_jayxand then do a debdiff01:06
leonelok hold on let me  do the pbuilder  for  gutsy01:07
leonelwow  01:09
effie_jayxleonel,  what happened?01:09
leonelhow do I create for gutsy  in feisty  just  rename   pbuilder-feisty to pbuilder-gutsy 01:10
leonelor do I need another package ?01:10
effie_jayxleonel,  rename ... that's it01:10
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leoneleffie_jayx: when I ran it  this  message gives :01:11
leonelE: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/gutsy01:11
effie_jayxyou executed ? what01:11
leonelsh pbuilder-gutsy create 01:12
blueyed"The upload target must be release-proposed" at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU is obsolete/wrong, isn't it?01:12
crimsunblueyed: wrong?  for an SRU?  No.01:13
crimsunthe initial upload of an SRU is always to $release-proposed01:13
leonelcrimsun: to create pbuilder for  gutsy  in feisty   ?01:14
blueyedcrimsun: ah, sure. I'd thought it refered to the changelog entry.01:14
crimsunblueyed: it does.  The distribution entry is $release-proposed.01:14
effie_jayxleonel,  I just pbuild-gusty01:15
effie_jayxall ok01:15
crimsunleonel: you could backport/use gutsy's01:15
crimsunleonel: or just create a feisty one and dist-upgrade using login --save-after-login01:16
leonelok 01:17
leonelthanks01:17
blueyedHasn't that changed recently, crimsun? I think I've read about in in the UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter. Or was this for -backports?01:18
leonelcrimsun: or if I have gutsy installed  just  use the pbuilder script ...01:18
leonel?01:18
crimsunleonel: correct01:18
crimsunblueyed: has "what" changed?01:18
leonelok  I needed to install gutsy anyway 01:19
leonelhold on01:19
effie_jayxleonel,  01:19
effie_jayxI did the pbuild now I debdiff from the debian .dsc ?01:19
blueyedcrimsun: That "-proposed" is not needed anymore. Sorry, I'll just change it in the debdiff, according to the wiki.01:19
leoneleffie_jayx:  yes01:20
effie_jayxleonel,  the diff file must have a name? a specific name?01:21
crimsunblueyed: I've not seen it come across -devel, -devel-discuss, or -devel-announce01:21
leonelno just a representative name      .debdiff01:21
effie_jayxleonel,  then what do I attachto a bug for a motu to upload?01:21
leonelattach the debdiff   saying it's a patch  01:22
crimsunblueyed: the only recent change I'm aware of for SRU is that we no longer do a second upload to $release-updates.  Soyuz has the functionality now to handle $release-proposed -> $release-updates.01:22
effie_jayxok01:22
leoneleffie_jayx: and a description of what it does01:22
effie_jayxleonel,  ok01:23
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blueyedYes, crimsun. I've confused this. Sorry.01:24
effie_jayxleonel,  the debdiff doesn't show the change I did ... is that ok?01:26
leonelhow you did  the debdiff ?01:28
effie_jayxleonel,  debdiff clamav_0.90.3-1.dsc clamav_0.90.3-1ubuntu1.dsc > ubuclamav_0.90.3-1.diff01:28
leonelthere must be  changes  01:29
leonelwas that a patch  or merge?01:30
leonelwas a merge ..01:30
leonelWE need  help ...01:30
leonelI'm learning too  and  never done a merge 01:30
effie_jayxleonel,  well I did a change followin the instructions so everything should be fine01:31
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effie_jayxIf I did the changes 01:31
effie_jayxthe debdiff should not show any more changes... 01:31
effie_jayxbut that's just my common sence01:32
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effie_jayxcrimsun, a question... I am merging a package... I applied the change to the file... pbuild it.. do a debdiff and I get no futher changes on the debdiff01:35
effie_jayxis that ok?01:35
effie_jayxleonel,  my common sence tells me we are on the right path01:36
effie_jayxnixternal,  ping01:36
leonelIf you did all right  that's the way ..01:36
effie_jayxleonel,  i remember ScottK 's words ... so it should be ok01:37
leonelok01:37
blueyedIs bug 88617 ok for SRU now?01:41
ubotuLaunchpad bug 88617 in duplicity "incremental backup does not work" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8861701:41
effie_jayxleonel,  you just merged clamav for feisty didnt you?01:44
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effie_jayxleonel,  ok ... what Should I attach to a bug :S01:47
superm1crimsun, I fixed the two changes you had mentioned in libhdhomerun yesterday.  Would you be able to give it a formal/revu/advocation/upload etc?01:49
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crimsuneffie_jayx: what do you mean that you "get no further changes on the debdiff"?02:01
crimsunblueyed: we don't place "* Non-maintainer upload" in our changelog entries.02:02
crimsunblueyed: furthermore, the -proposed version should be 0.4.2-10.1ubuntu1.1, not 0.4.2-10.1ubuntu202:02
crimsunblueyed: with those changes made, the SRU proposed debdiff looks ok02:03
crimsunsuperm1: I'll look now.02:03
superm1thanks crimsun 02:03
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blueyedcrimsun: fixed. Thanks for reviewing. Now I'll have to wait until somebody uploads it, correct?02:08
crimsunblueyed: I'll review it in a few minutes.02:09
crimsunsuperm1: any reason you wanted to GPL your packaging instead of LGPL?02:09
superm1didnt matter to me one way or another02:10
superm1figured it would be easier for same license on everything02:10
crimsun(it doesn't effectively change much, but be aware that there's no COPYING or gpl.txt, which you do have to distribute if you GPL it.)02:10
crimsuncurrently there are two referenced licenses in the source package, LGPL and GPL.  libhdhomerun itself is LGPL; your packaging is GPL.02:11
superm1and the lgpl.txt will only cover the source itself02:12
superm1i see02:12
superm1so both *should* be shipped in this case02:12
crimsunyes, since you explicitly state the packaging is redistributable under GPL.02:12
superm1then i think it will be easiest to just license as all LGPL02:12
superm1i'll switch that around02:13
pochuGood night everybody!02:13
TheMusogrrr. Gotta love big companies.02:14
TheMusoSo IBM just dropped GNOME accessibility development.02:14
crimsunutterly, or just sponsorship?02:15
TheMusocrimsun: LSR development is being stopped, and the other bits are only going to be kept up to date until someone else from the community knows them well enough to take over maintainership.02:16
crimsunhmph.02:16
TheMusoAs much as I'd rather one screen reader, I'm pretty pissed off right now.02:16
TheMusoTHings like this only cause me to loose faith in companies involved with Linux.02:17
crimsunthat may be a bit hasty02:17
TheMusoCanonical is an exception.02:17
TheMusocrimsun: May be, but thats the way I feel at the moment.02:17
crimsunsuperm1 has access to bluepages, but if he sees anything marked Conf, I doubt he can divulge. :-)02:17
superm1hehe02:18
superm1crimsun, what are you asking me to do here....... :)02:18
crimsunnothing at all.  Been in that position.02:18
superm1any idea who in IBM was supporting it before?02:18
crimsunPeter Parente seems to have written the status update02:20
crimsun[http://mail.gnome.org/archives/lsr-list/2007-June/msg00000.html] 02:20
effie_jayxcrimsun,  leonel  and I need some help with a merge... we are learning...02:20
effie_jayxbe back in a while 02:20
crimsunok02:20
superm1crimsun, provided that is all you found with the package, here is the updated: http://revu.tauware.de./details.py?upid=534202:21
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superm1after browsing a bit, there isn't anything overly informative internally.  most of the internal sites just link to the project on gnome.org anyhow.  Parente doesn't even have an internal blog.02:30
crimsunthat's ok, I didn't either :-)02:30
TheMusoI'll cool down. Just a little pissed.02:31
TheMusoThey've decided to focus on cross-platform stuff.02:31
superm1my only entry on my internal blog is my experience setting up feisty in IBM02:31
crimsunyay -> hobbsee02:35
superm1crimsun, thx for the revu.  Should I yet grab one more (or grab ScottK again) or can you upload on that basis?02:35
crimsunsuperm1: read -motu :)02:38
crimsun(or https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2007-June/001684.html if you need a direct URL)02:39
superm1oh awesome!.  Thanks crimsun 02:40
crimsunnp, thank -you-02:40
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DaskreechWhat happened to the commercal repo?03:46
TheMusoc03:50
TheMusough03:50
DaskreechTheMuso: Was that for me?03:54
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TheMusoDaskreech: No/04:05
TheMusoJust my KVM playing up.04:06
Daskreechok04:06
DaskreechIs the Commercial repo intended to be LTS only or has the idea been dropped?04:06
lathiatim pretty sure theres like vmware and such in the feisty commemrcial repo?04:08
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Daskreechthere is a commercial repo?04:10
Daskreechwell I stopped trying n edgy 04:11
Daskreech ti didn't work in edgy04:11
Daskreechit's still there?04:11
superm1between edgy commercial and feisty commercial i see opera realplay and vmware server04:16
superm1and i just installed opera from it no problem04:16
DaskreechAh Ok. what are the requirements to get on that repo?04:16
Daskreechfree and non-speech free ?04:16
superm1deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ edgy-commercial main04:17
superm1deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ feisty-commercial main04:17
superm1is what i have04:17
Daskreechok04:17
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nixternalthis libhttp package is a bigger pain than I thought...possibly to the point to where I am going to create a fork of the original to satisfy emdebian04:27
nixternalhiya Hobbsee!04:27
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Hobbseehey nixternal!04:28
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Hobbseecrimsun: :)04:45
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effie_jayxnixternal,  ping05:22
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nixternaleffie_jayx: pong?05:31
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leonelmotus  good night ..05:57
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wattazoumHello, 08:13
wattazoumI am here for my first active Hug Day08:13
wattazoum:)08:13
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jussi01damn, where is persia when you need him...08:14
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wattazoumjussi01: who is persia ?08:22
jussi01wattazoum: persia is one of the MOTU's and my mentor. https://launchpad.net/~persia08:24
wattazoumjussi01: nice then :-) 08:25
wattazoumjussi01: that's my first time coming here for HUG day08:25
wattazoumdo I need a mentor ?08:25
jussi01wattazoum: I think maybe you should check in at #ubuntu-bugs . the mentor is for if you are considering becoming a motu. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing08:27
wattazoumjussi01: thank you ;-)08:28
jussi01:)08:28
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joejaxxHello All09:41
r00tintheb0xhi09:41
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crimsunhmm.  rhythmbox 0.10.90-0ubuntu1 doesn't have the tag parsing bug.09:45
crimsuntime for some bug hunting!09:45
joejaxx:)09:45
StevenKWabbit Season!09:45
r00tintheb0x:)09:47
r00tintheb0xw00tb1t season09:47
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crimsunmmm zing.09:56
crimsungnome 44279209:56
ubotuGnome bug 442792 in Importing "ignores tags with trailing spaces" [Normal,New]  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44279209:56
crimsunverified with id3tag -n -w  (from the libid3-3.8.3-dev package)09:57
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Bixente~OSOSOROROS[15~[17~qOROS[15~OROS[15~[17~/quit10:11
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crimsunwhy yes.10:11
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r00tintheb0xheh10:15
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Q-FUNKcan anybody make sense of this? http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib/log.planner_0.14-10.html10:35
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DarkSun88Hi all11:34
RainCTHi11:34
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DktrKranzCould you please take a look at the debdiff present in bug #117793? It contains several install/remove fixes11:35
ubotuLaunchpad bug 117793 in dbmail "/var/run/dbmail disappears" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11779311:35
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jekilhello11:45
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affluxcrimsun: I uploaded the debdiff for bug 117847 again.12:12
ubotuLaunchpad bug 117847 in camorama "[Fakemerge]  Please merge camorama 0.18-2 from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11784712:12
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RainCThow can I see from what package provides a command?12:15
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pochuRainCT: dpkg-query -S <file>12:16
RainCTpochu: thanks12:16
joejaxxHello Everyone :)12:25
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Adri2000Kmos: why did you add the tag upgrade to the doodle sync request? 'upgrade' if for bugs requesting a new upstream release01:13
KmosAdri2000: i thought it was for sync too01:17
KmosAdri2000: there isn't any tag for that ?01:17
Kmoshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags01:18
Adri2000Kmos: maybe there is a tag 'sync', but I don't know what its purpose is. anyway upgrade is wrong for a sync request.01:22
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KmosAdri2000: ok, thx for your explanation01:29
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bashelierasac: ping01:37
Hobbseeevening all01:38
bashelierhey Hobbsee :)01:38
bashelier(I forgot, congrats!)01:38
effie_jayxHobbsee,  :D01:39
effie_jayxHobbsee,  could you give me a hand with a small merge? I am trying to learn...01:40
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Hobbsee:)01:43
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: i'm eating dinner at the moment, but it should be OK01:43
effie_jayxHobbsee,  I'll wait :D01:44
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RainCTare there many small packages like xpenguin?02:23
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leonelea ea  good moring ..02:54
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: what were you after?02:54
effie_jayxHobbsee,  I have been learning to do merges.. i was given a task.02:55
effie_jayxand I am trying to finish it...02:55
Hobbseewoo :)02:55
effie_jayxHobbsee,  I am merging clamav 02:55
Hobbseeooh, fun02:56
effie_jayxHobbsee,  I am stuck doing the debdiff I guess... 02:56
Hobbseeright02:57
Hobbseewhat have you done so far?02:57
effie_jayxHobbsee,  I just want to check this... After I make the small modification in the file (The one suggested by the patch)02:57
Hobbseeyep02:57
effie_jayxI do ../merge-buildpackage an It all goes ok...02:57
effie_jayxnext is debdiff... here I take the two .dsc the debian one and the ubuntu one... 02:58
effie_jayxI did it and the output file looks like this... 02:58
effie_jayxHobbsee,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23711/02:59
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Hobbseeeffie_jayx: right03:00
effie_jayxHobbsee,  did I do something wrong?03:01
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: it appears you've dropped one of the changes03:01
effie_jayxups03:01
Hobbseeapart from that, it looks perfect03:02
Hobbsee+    - debian/clamav-freshclam.init.in specify pidfile when starting.  03:02
Hobbseethat change doesnt seem to be in there03:02
Hobbseeyet it is in the output MOM gaves you03:02
effie_jayxmmm... It must have been the debdiff I did 03:03
effie_jayxHobbsee,  I was checking the file that was supposed to have the changes and I saw that the change wasn't there03:03
Hobbseesorry?03:03
effie_jayxok03:03
effie_jayxIf I check the .patch03:04
Hobbseewhich file that was supposed to have the changes?03:04
Hobbseehttp://merges.ubuntu.com/c/clamav/clamav_0.90.3-1ubuntu1.patch was the patch i was looking at03:04
effie_jayxHobbsee,  yes...03:05
effie_jayxthis bit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23712/03:05
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: right, that that bit wasnt in your debdiff?03:05
effie_jayxnope03:05
Hobbseeso you need to fix it so it is :)03:06
Hobbseethe same way you did the maintainer, etc03:07
effie_jayxHobbsee,  sorry that isn't it03:07
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Hobbseeoh?03:07
effie_jayxHobbsee,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23713/    this is it... 03:08
Hobbseepatch seems the same to me, just with a line above03:09
effie_jayxok03:09
effie_jayxwhen I open clamav-freshclam.init.in I find the line with the + on the patch03:10
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: when did you change that?03:11
effie_jayxHobbsee,  I didn't 03:11
Hobbseeie, before or after you ran the ../merge-buildpackage, adn made the debdiff?03:11
Hobbseeright - i wonder if the original debian source has changed it too03:11
effie_jayxI can paste the line on the file for you to see.. it came like that03:12
Hobbseegrab the debian source (it's in your directory if you used grab-merge.sh), use dpkg-source -x debian_thing.dsc,  and have a look if that has that there03:13
Hobbseeit's odd that MOM would put that output there, if debian's...03:13
Hobbseeoh, i know.03:13
Hobbseewait a sec03:13
effie_jayxHobbsee,  I am using DaD... i03:13
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Hobbseeeffie_jayx: well, assuming that works the same way as MOM, the directory it creates for you is the one where all it's changes are merged in as much as possible03:14
Hobbseewhich in this case is completely, as there are no conflicts03:14
effie_jayxok03:15
effie_jayxHobbsee,  where should I look now...03:16
Hobbseewhich doesnt actually explain why that hasnt shown in the diff from debian....03:16
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effie_jayxHobbsee,  should I do a debdiff again03:17
effie_jayxjust to check03:17
Hobbseedid you do the debdiff against the latest debian, and the version that you want to go into ubuntu?03:18
effie_jayxyes03:18
Hobbseeright03:18
effie_jayxlet me do i again just to be sure03:18
Hobbseego ahead and do the debdiff again, it wont hurt03:18
effie_jayxHobbsee,  ok... I did the debdiff and the changes are there...03:20
Hobbseegreat :03:20
Hobbsee_03:20
effie_jayxHobbsee, let me test build it 03:23
Hobbseeok03:23
Hobbseeremember that you'll have to use ../merge-buildpackage again after you test build it03:23
effie_jayxok I got lost ... 03:24
Hobbseeie, part of what's called in merge-buildpackage is also called when you test build03:25
Hobbseejust with different parameters03:25
Hobbseeso it'll overwrite your .diff.gz/.dsc each time you run it03:25
effie_jayxammm03:25
effie_jayxok03:25
Hobbseewhich is fine, as long as you dont change your source directory03:25
Hobbseeie, what the buildpackage does, is say 'okay, this is what's in the source directory, let's chuck it into the .diff.gz and the .dsc)03:26
Hobbseeif that makes sense03:26
effie_jayxHobbsee, it does... 03:26
Hobbsee:)03:26
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effie_jayxHobbsee,  I have a pbuilder-gutsy ... just to be sure... what should I test?03:27
Hobbseeif it builds, if it installs, preferably if it works, too03:28
Hobbseebut at least hte first two03:28
bashelierdoko: ping03:29
effie_jayxHobbsee,  it builds fine03:34
Hobbseeyay :)03:35
Hobbseedoes it install?03:35
effie_jayxHobbsee,  I'll try03:35
effie_jayxHobbsee,  how can I install :S03:38
Hobbseeuse pbuilder-gutsy login --bindmounts /var/cache/pbuilder/result and install the deb, and use apt-get -f install to install the needed dependancies03:39
effie_jayxHobbsee,  W: /home/valles/.pbuilderrc does not exist03:40
VoXhm where would i report a kernel bug?03:41
Hobbseeit's a warning, you can ignore it03:41
effie_jayxHobbsee,  File extracted to: /var/cache/pbuilder/build//305203:41
VoXwell, i think it's a kernel bug03:41
StevenKeffie_jayx: You should have a root prompt.03:41
effie_jayxStevenK,  I do03:42
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StevenKeffie_jayx: So now dpkg -i the .deb and then apt-get -f install03:43
StevenKNote to self: You don't have tab completion of commands in IRC.03:43
effie_jayxwhere is the .deb 03:44
Hobbsee /var/cache/pbuilder/result usually03:45
effie_jayxHobbsee,  empty03:45
Hobbseeassuming you havent changed the default03:45
StevenKpbuilder-gutsy may set it to be under ~03:45
Hobbseeright, then either --bindmounts buggered up, or you're getting teh result in a different place03:45
effie_jayxHobbsee,  File extracted to: /var/cache/pbuilder/build//30527 03:47
effie_jayxStevenK,  it was home03:50
effie_jayxpbuilder folder03:50
StevenKeffie_jayx: Then --bindmounts /home/valles/pbuilder03:50
Hobbseeeffie_jayx: you need to --bindmounts whatever directory you want to be able to use in the pbuilder - which tends to be the results dir03:51
effie_jayxok03:53
effie_jayxgot it03:53
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polopoloHello, Can I also upload programs that's be newer then in the ubuntu program list03:55
polopolo?03:55
Hobbseeto revu?  yes03:56
polopoloSo it's been in a newer version of ubuntu?03:56
Hobbseesorry?03:56
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Hobbseeyou can upload a newer version of a program than is in the development release to REVU, yes.03:57
polopolook03:57
polopoloAnd then that version is intergrated in the version of ubuntu?03:57
Hobbseeeffectively03:58
Hobbseethe aim is that your packaging of the new upstream version is good enough to go directly into ubuntu03:58
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polopologreat04:02
polopolook, thank you again Hobbesee04:02
effie_jayxHobbsee,  dependecy problems when isntalling04:03
StevenK"and use 04:03
StevenK                   apt-get -f install to install the needed dependancies"04:03
StevenKLike she said over 20 minutes ago04:04
effie_jayxStevenK,  sorry04:04
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ScottKeffie_jayx: How is it going?04:11
DarkSun88Hi all04:11
ScottKGood morning all.04:11
effie_jayxScottK,  it's going04:13
ScottKeffie_jayx: OK.  I'm here if you need help.04:13
effie_jayxScottK,  I checked again... the guys here helped me build and install04:14
ScottKeffie_jayx: OK.  Do you have a good debdiff now?04:14
effie_jayxlet me show you04:14
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effie_jayxScottK,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23726/ debdiff 04:21
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ScottKeffie_jayx: Somehow the change to $PIDFILE got lost in what you where doing.  This is how it should look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23727/04:23
effie_jayxI see04:26
ScottKeffie_jayx: This particular merge seems to have had a lot of odd twists and turns (this definitely gets easier in time).  Rather than go back and redo everything, I'd say lets move forward in the process with the debdiff as I edited it.04:29
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ScottKeffie_jayx: The next step is for you to take the debdiff and attach it to a bug asking for the merge.  Bug #112710 is an example.  Post the bug number here when you've done that.04:33
ubotuLaunchpad bug 112710 in clamav "Merge clamav 0.90.2-1 from Debian Unstable (Main)" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11271004:33
LutinScottK: the $PIDFILE didn't get lost in what effie_jayx is doing, as it's not in the ubuntu package presently in the archive 04:34
ScottKLutin: We made the change earlier.  That's what should be there.  It looks like I screwed up the last merge somehow.04:35
Lutinok04:35
ScottKWhich is part of why I'm anxious to get this upload done before they cut a CD next week.04:35
Hobbseeit's only universe04:35
Hobbseeas in, so wont freeze as early as main does04:36
ScottKYes, but I am assuming once the CD is out people will use it and probably someone will use this package.04:36
Hobbseesure, but universe keeps updating04:37
ScottKSo I'd like to get it fixed... (especially since I broke it).04:37
Hobbseeso they'll just get the package upgrade04:37
Hobbseeso why havent you fixed it yet? 04:37
Hobbseeor uploaded someone else's fix?04:37
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LasoLhi04:37
Lutinhi LasoL 04:37
Hobbseehiya04:37
ScottKBecause I noticed the problem while helping effie_jayx with the merge, so it seemed simpler just to get it right in the merge.04:38
ScottKHi lasol04:38
Hobbseetrue04:38
LasoLi want to contribute on ubuntu. I am developer, and i could write code, and make packages. Hi have read the web page about how to be a MOTU. And i have write to a mentor offered of motu. But, this is all? what can i do now? wait for a mail with a mentor?04:39
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LasoLi think that on first time, i may to start doing packaging for meet people. But really i want write code. What do you think?04:41
ScottKLasoL: You can always jump in and get to work on something.  One thing to do to get started (particularly if you want to code) is look for bugs in Universe packages you can fix.  We can help you get the fixes uploaded.04:42
LasoLlook for bugs in launchpad do you mean?04:43
ScottKLasoL: Yes.04:45
ScottKLasoL: What languages do you code in?  Someone here may have a pet bug you could look into.04:45
LasoLi can code, c, c++, java and php/mysql04:46
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ScottKAnyone got a bug that's been bothering them that LasoL can work on?04:47
Hobbseesure, there's plenty in kde *g*04:47
Hobbseebut that tends to require QT knowledge04:48
LasoLi dont have qt knowledge :(04:48
StevenKI'm looking at a inkscape bug, but it seems to be subtle and require Glib knowledge.04:48
LasoLneither04:49
LasoLi think that i may to learn glib04:50
joumetalbug 118316 if merging sounds intresting.04:50
ubotuLaunchpad bug 118316 in ndisgtk "Merge ndisgtk 0.7 from Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11831604:50
joumetalits' filed by Debian developer of that package.04:52
LasoLok, and how can i help on it? 04:53
joumetalHere is instruction how to merge. I can't help further but in this channel you can get help. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Merging? 04:57
jribLasoL: you could try to search for the "bitesize" tagged bugs too04:57
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RainCTcan somebody appoint me of an easy package I can try to merge?05:08
LasoLthere arent mentors for fix bugs?05:14
ScottKLasoL: If it's a universe pacakage, ask here.  Someone will help.05:14
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ScottKeffie_jayx: I'm making two small changes to your merge.  I removed the blank line in the middle of the changes and changed urgency from high to low (Ubuntu doesn't use that).  Other than that, it's all good.  I'm doing a test build and then I'll upload it.05:31
effie_jayxScottK, good05:37
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ScottKjdong: Did you see my ping the other day about clamtk backport to Feisty?05:59
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ScottKeffie_jayx: Uploaded.  Thank you for contributing.06:03
ScottKeffie_jayx: See https://launchpad.net/~effie-jayx/+packages06:05
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RainCTare bug reports send by mail published immediately?06:19
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ScottKRainCT: If your definition of immediately includes a 10 - 15 minute delay, yes.  Otherwise, No.06:22
RainCTScottK: ok thx06:22
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Pathumcan someone help mw with Kopete?06:50
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RainCTIf I opened a merge bug but the package can be synced should I reject it or wait until the sync and the set it as fix released?07:00
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ScottKRainCT: If the package has an existing Ubuntu diff, it won't be autoamtically synced, it needs a sync bug.  Edit the merge bug into a sync bug and subscribe UUS after you are done.07:11
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RainCTScottK: okay thanks :)07:34
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bmmPing for anybody wanting to review or advocate ccbuild on REVU http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=529507:37
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RainCTCan somebody help me configure lpbugs.py for my mail?08:20
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LaserJockminghua: fine ;-)08:22
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minghuaLaserJock: just wondering, not pushing :-)08:23
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LaserJockminghua: just to be clear, I get the results that are listed under "For comparison Octave 2.1.73:"08:27
minghuaI remember the correct one should be 408:28
minghuabut let me look again08:28
LaserJockyes08:28
LaserJockI et 408:28
LaserJock*get08:28
minghuaLaserJock: yeah, 4 is the correct answer08:30
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LaserJockok, comment added08:31
minghuaLaserJock: thanks08:32
minghuathe thing is, octave2.1 in feisty also build-depends on gfortran08:32
minghuawhich makes the whole argument quite shaky08:32
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minghuabe back later08:36
superm1LaserJock, you get my mail yesterday?08:41
RainCTcan somebody help me with lpbugs.py?08:43
LaserJocksuperm1: ah, yes. thanks08:48
superm1LaserJock, work for you?08:48
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LaserJockhaven't tried it yet, but I'm going to08:48
LaserJockI actually don't run debuild on my laptop much, which is where i installed seahorse08:48
superm1ah okay.  found it on a launchpad bug some time back08:48
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alexiseshello hevery one08:52
alexiseswan i have some help for my debian package08:52
alexisesi have ceat 2 debian package for a game08:53
alexisesand i would like you veryfie my debian rules08:53
alexiseshttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23767/08:53
RainCTCan someone appoint me on how to merge xmms? the build dependences are different and on ubuntu's there is a file with a path to python2.5 while debian's goes to python2.408:56
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jussi01alexises: it would be much easier if we had th whole package. you can use revu for this.09:02
jussi01!revu09:03
ubotuREVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU09:03
alexisesok thenks09:03
alexisesi have not yet use revu aber i have a usaccont at launchpad09:06
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jussi01alexises: once you have sorted out the revu details, you need the revu keyring synced. LaserJock ajmitch and others can help with this.09:09
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basheliermr_pouit: are you using an alternative os ? ^^"09:10
LaserJockRainCT: Debian's default python version is 2.4 and Ubuntu's is 2.509:13
RainCTLaserJock: so I should let Ubuntu's there, or? and what's with the dependences?09:15
alexisesho it is hard for me09:16
LaserJockRainCT: well, the new Debian python policy should make it so you shouldn't need to specify a version09:16
RainCTLaserJock: it's a file called `python-xmmsclient.install' with the content (on Debian) `usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/*'09:17
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LaserJockRainCT: does it have a dependency on python-central in debian/control?09:20
RainCTLaserJock: no, on python and python-dev09:21
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LaserJockhmm09:23
RainCTLaserJock: (after looking deeper on them, the dependencies are correct)09:24
LaserJockhow do you mean?09:25
RainCTLaserJock: I thought build-depends was also different but it's ok09:26
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RainCTLaserJock: so the only difference is that file with python2.409:26
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LaserJockdid you check the Ubuntu changelog?09:27
RainCTLaserJock: for what?09:28
LaserJockxmms09:28
RainCTLaserJock: yes but after what should I look there?09:28
LaserJockall the changes made by Ubuntu09:28
RainCTah yes09:28
RainCTit's there09:29
RainCT* debian/python-xmmsclient.install: Fix path for python 2.5 module 09:29
LaserJockyou need to make sure that they are either included in the newer version from Debian or you re-apply them09:29
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RainCTLaserJock: so what have I to do? post a .patch on LP?09:33
RainCTLaserJock: yes as I said everything is the same, beside this file where it says python2.4 instead of python2.509:33
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LaserJockRainCT: so you added the .desktop chages and debian/rules stuff?09:50
RainCTLaserJock: eh? it says nothing about a .desktop file on the changelog09:52
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LaserJockyour doing xmms right?09:53
RainCTLaserJock: yes. http://merges.ubuntu.com/x/xmms2/09:54
RainCTah wait09:54
LaserJockxmms209:54
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RainCTLaserJock: isn't it the same? I can't find xmms2 with apt-cache09:56
LaserJockthey aren't the same09:56
LaserJockRainCT: xmms2 has never built in gutsy09:58
RainCTag09:58
RainCT* ah09:58
LaserJocknor in feisty that I can tell09:59
RainCTbecause libfaad2-dev or wasn't this required in previous versions?09:59
RainCT(installing the build dependences it says libfaad2-dev doesn't exist)10:00
LaserJockChecking for working C compiler... no10:01
LaserJockOPTION CC MUST POINT TO A VALID C COMPILER!10:01
LutinLaserJock: this is the scons bug I guess ?10:02
LaserJocklooks like it to me10:03
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RainCTI think scons isn't required anymore (can confirm that in a few minutes)10:04
LutinI've looked into that bug some time ago, but has not been able to find out any significant information :/10:05
Lutinhave*10:06
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RainCTconfirmed, scons isn't needed anymore10:09
RainCTbut there is now that libfaad2-dev. don't know if it's in gutsy, but I can't find it for Feisty10:09
RainCTbtw, what's the difference between debuild -S and debuild -S -sa?10:11
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LaserJock-sa includes the .orig.tar.gz in the .dsc10:13
LaserJockso that would be if there as a new upstream release10:13
LaserJockand you needed to upload the new .orig.tar.gz10:13
alexisescan i have some helmp to register me to revu if possible in french 10:15
alexisesi have yet read the howto10:16
stgraberalexises: do you have a gpg key added to your LP profile ?10:17
alexisesnot yet10:17
alexisesaber i have yet  gpg key10:17
Lutinalexises: s/aber/but10:17
alexisesho sorry i sprehc german in deutch10:17
alexises*speak10:18
alexises*english10:18
RainCTIs the merge debdiff in bug #118422 okay? (beside it doesn't build because libfaad-dev isn't there)10:18
ubotuLaunchpad bug 118422 in xmms2 "xmms2: merge new debian version" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11842210:18
stgraberok, then start by adding your GPG key to your LP profile10:18
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alexisesok10:18
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RainCTlucas: where can I find the build logs?10:20
alexiseshow i install my gpg key  in my lunchpad accont10:21
LutinRainCT: you've discarded another change (build-depend on git-core) and forgot to mention the maintainer change as an ubuntu change10:21
bashelierhey Lutin :)10:21
LutinRainCT: unless there's a reason to drop this B-D of course10:21
Lutinheya bashelier 10:21
Lutinhow're doing ? ;)10:22
Lutin+you10:22
RainCTLutin: the maintainer field changed since 0.2DrHouse-3.1ubuntu310:23
alexisesstgraber woh i add my gpg key in lunchpad10:23
LutinRainCT: and as a consequence, it's an ubuntu change, isn't it ?10:23
bashelierLutin: fine fine :) what about you ?10:23
Lutinbashelier: quite good, thanks10:24
RainCTLutin: yes, but it's already on the changelog on that verison changes10:24
stgraberalexises: https://launchpad.net/~YOUR-ACCOUNT/+editpgpkeys10:24
alexisesok10:24
RainCTLutin: or does it need to be written again for each merge?10:24
stgraberalexises: then put your GPG fingerprint and click the import key button10:24
LutinRainCT: for each new merge you have to list all the ubuntu changes remaining to the package I'd say10:25
RainCTLutin: ah okay10:25
LutinRainCT: but even if you don't list the maintainer thing, the git-core thing remains10:26
Lutinas you've not stated any reason to drop it, I assume we have to keep it ?10:26
RainCTLutin: okay, added both and debuilding10:28
LutinRainCT: ok10:28
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RainCTLutin: uploaded10:30
ScottKLaserJock: I just dput the merge of python-scipy from Debian experimental.  It might actually work with python-numpy now once that's built.10:31
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LutinRainCT: looks way better10:31
RainCT:)10:31
jussi01Hmmm, could someone take a quick read of my wiki and make sure I havent any spelling/gramamtical errors? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JussiSchultink?action=show thanks :D10:32
LaserJockScottK: excellent, thanks10:34
stgraberjussi01: the style of the Forums line doesn't look right10:34
ScottKNo problem.  We are now one patch away from a Synch with Debian, BTW.10:34
RainCTLutin: so what's with that lib?10:35
LutinRainCT: just noticed that XS-Python-Version would require an update from 2.4 to 2.5. as I'm reviewing the package, do you mind if I updtae it directly ?10:35
jussi01stgraber: how so? if you like suggest a change?10:35
LutinRainCT: what lib ?10:35
RainCTLutin: libfaad-dev10:36
LutinRainCT: what was the issue with it ?10:36
Lutindoesn't exist in ubuntu ?10:36
RainCTLutin: it doesn't exist in Ubuntu10:37
RainCTat least not in Feisty10:37
Lutinguess libfaad2-dev is 10:37
Lutinlooks like a perfect replacement10:37
RainCTlet's try10:38
stgraberjussi01: refresh10:39
jussi01stgraber: doesnt seem any different to me...10:40
jussi01ahh...now then10:41
jussi01:D thanks10:41
stgrabermoved Forum to Ubuntuforums, put it into bold and put a link to your forum profile instead of simply your forum name10:41
alexisesi have install my gpg key in lunchpad10:43
bashelieralexises: good :)10:43
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alexiseswath i do after10:43
alexises*what10:43
bashelieralexises: so, you would like to upload a package on revu, right ?10:44
alexisesyes10:44
bashelieralexises: then, first do debuild -S -sa -kKEY_ID10:44
jussi01stgraber: that works excellent now, thanks. o you have any other feed back?10:44
bashelieralexises: where KEY_ID, is the id of your gpg key, for example 21275CC410:45
alexisesi have yet do on may debian package 10:45
stgraberalexises: join the https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-contributors team10:45
alexisesi have already suscrypte10:45
stgraberalexises: then you'll have to wait till someone update the keyring, once done you'll be able to upload to revu10:46
alexisesok10:46
Lutinuh, wtf ? xmms2 in debian is missing 2 changelog entries10:47
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RainCTeh?10:48
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LutinRainCT: look at your debdiff, it's including two unstable changelog entries10:49
Lutinseems that the entries dor DrHouse-3 and -3.1 just got nuked10:49
Lutin(in debian)10:50
RainCToh :s10:50
LaserJockLutin: where they in experimental?10:52
LaserJocksometimes that happens10:52
LutinLaserJock: no, they were in unstable10:53
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RainCTLutin: will you open a bug report there? or just ignore this, as it isn't our problem?10:53
LutinRainCT: I'll refer to one of the MOTU deities :)10:54
RainCTwell, it seems the package is building10:55
LaserJockI wouldn't really consider it a bug10:55
LaserJockyou could always email the maintainer to let them know10:55
LutinLaserJock: what's the best hing to do in that case, just include the missing entries in the upload ?10:55
RainCTthey will probably wait for the next version to fix it then? because it's just stupid to let people download again that package of many MB only because of the changelog10:56
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alexisesstgber : ho low time to update the keyring ?10:57
Lutinyep. and would avoid the question 'why do we have -3.1ubuntu1 as debian stops to -2 ?'10:58
LaserJockLutin: not on the Ubuntu end10:58
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LutinLaserJock: why ?10:59
LaserJockScottK: yeah, but just emailing the maintainer is the best way to go10:59
LaserJockit's useless diff10:59
Lutinsure10:59
Lutinsigh. fails to build on amd6410:59
RainCTshall I mail him?11:00
LaserJockI'm fairly sure it isn't a Policy violation or anything like that11:00
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LaserJockcould be wrong though11:00
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LaserJockI suppose it would only hurt if they aren't identical and you get a conflict in the changelog11:01
RainCTLutin: I could build it11:01
RainCTjust finished11:01
LutinRainCT: but you don't have an amd64, do you ?11:01
RainCTno :p11:02
RainCTLutin: where can you see if it build?11:02
LutinRainCT: well, look a the result of your pbuilder :)11:03
jussi01alexises: just kindly ask LaserJockto help... he does that stuff...11:03
RainCTah ok11:03
RainCTLutin: can you simulate whatever you want there?11:03
LutinRainCT: I don't understand, sorry11:04
RainCTLutin: can you simulate an amd64 there, or do have you one? 11:04
RainCT* do you have11:04
LutinI have one11:04
RainCTah :p11:04
RainCTyou've the last debdiff?11:05
Lutinyes 11:05
LaserJockalexises: I'm updating the keyring right now, I'll let you know when it's done11:06
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lucasRainCT: on launchpad, on the source package page11:06
RainCTLutin: no idea what's the problem?11:06
LutinRainCT: I know what the problem is11:07
LutinI also know I'm not able to fix it11:07
RainCTah great11:08
RainCTlucas: ok thanks11:08
LutinRainCT: btw, you have to mention the faad change in the changelog11:09
RainCTeh.. no11:09
RainCTone moment11:10
LaserJockScottK: do you work with CVEs much?11:10
alexisesthenks11:11
RainCTI've one question.. if one out of all the packages generated by xmms2 is changed, do all other ones get updated too (and users have to download them again)?11:12
RainCTLutin: done11:13
Lutinyes11:13
RainCTwhy are there then that many packages?11:14
LutinRainCT: err. this is not a merged ubuntu change, but a new change, so you have to list it in a different changelog point11:14
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Lutinhum, seems there is something that screws up with the dts change in ffmpeg during the xmms2 build11:16
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LaserJockRainCT: you think there should be fewer packages?11:17
RainCTLutin: uploaded11:18
mwolsoni'm contemplating using Qemu and some Ubuntu-based media distro CD to play media, since vlc and gxine are both broken in gutsy at the moment11:18
RainCTLaserJock: well, I don't see the sense of having that many packages depending each on another if they anyways have to be downloaded all again if one of them changes11:19
Dabianmwolson: What about GNU Emacs ... is that vers. 22 it gut now?11:19
Dabians/22 it/22 in/11:19
Dabians/gut/gutsy/11:20
RainCTLaserJock: i've already installed 5 packages to be able to install the main xmms2 one11:20
mwolsonDabian: i don't see it there, though gutsy does have a very recent build of emacs-snapshot11:20
LaserJockRainCT: that's the nature of it. Your going to have to download it one way or another11:21
LaserJockRainCT: splitting it up is mostly just a logical and organizational tool11:21
LaserJockRainCT: and allows for some more fine grained control11:21
LaserJockif you were to build it from source you'd have to do the same thing11:22
RainCTwell.. is there a command to install .debs from terminal?11:22
Dabianmwolson: There are problems with the jde-package and GNU Emacs in fiesty .. do you have an email I may use to get help fixing that, or are you too busy?11:22
RainCTand that accepts *.deb11:22
Dabian(It seems people are using vi and python instead, generally)11:23
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Lutinsiretart: around ?11:23
LaserJockalexises: it's done syncing, you can upload source packages (make sure to use source.changes file) to REVU now11:24
LaserJockRainCT: dpkg -i ?11:24
mwolsonDabian: email me: mwolson at member dot fsf dot org and I'll try to fix it; be specific about what version of Emacs you're using; no guarantees though11:25
mwolsonDabian: actually ... hold on a sec11:25
Dabianmwolson: OK11:25
alexisesthenks11:26
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mwolsonDabian: go here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jde/, see if the bug already exists, create a new bug otherwise, and let me know what the resulting bug number is11:26
Lutinsiretart: I saw you removed the dts support from ffmpeg. as libavcodec-dev no longer depends on libdts-dev and liba52-dev, they should no longer appear in ffmpeg-config --libs avcodec, should they ? that screws some builds up. (eg. xmms2)11:26
Dabianmwolson: The bug is already confirmed.11:27
Dabianmwolson: 11552711:27
LutinRainCT: I can't upload the package for now, it's going to FTBFS on all archs from what I can see11:27
mwolsonDabian: ok, i've subscribed to it and will take a look this afternoon11:28
Dabianmwolson: OK11:28
Lutinsiretart: and same for --plugin-libs btw11:29
mwolsonDabian: i'm currently trying to get some sort of ubuntu-emacs mailing list going so that Emacs Lisp package bugs that aren't fixed within a certain amount of time can be reported11:29
Dabianmwolson: Its a bit of a bedbug, because its not clear to me if one should remove code from xemacs-base-support and create independend packages for each version of emacsen, including xemacs.11:29
alexisesi have forgate the hotow for uploade tu revue11:30
Dabianmwolson: I wouldn't mind helping on that, if I get some mentoring.11:30
alexisesi have  ide11:30
alexises!revu11:30
ubotuREVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU11:30
ScottKLaserJock: Some.  I've done a few of security uploads.11:30
Lutinalexises: 'I have an idea'11:30
LaserJockScottK: what do you think of bug #170611:31
ubotuLaunchpad bug 1706 in malone "Malone/Launchpad should be CVE compatible" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/170611:31
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ScottKLaserJock: I agree with the comment that says to generic to be actionable.  We have some compatibility already...  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.has_cve=on11:33
LaserJockScottK: do you think more could be done within LP?11:34
LaserJockor do you feel what we have is enough?11:34
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=== ScottK isn't sure. I think we should have some kind of process for making sure that all relevant CVEs get bugs. Dunno how close we are to that.
LaserJockI haven't seen that has_cve field, that's pretty cool11:36
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ScottKIt's linked off of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/11:36
Kmoshttp://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ubuntu-cve/11:36
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LaserJockScottK: like I go there ;-)11:36
LaserJockoh nifty, the bug pie chart works11:37
ScottKKmos: Is that all of Ubuntu or just main/restricted?11:37
KmosCVE-2007-2650 11:39
Kmosclamav(feisty-security/universe)11:39
Kmosi think it's all11:39
Kmoshttp://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-265011:39
blueyedjdong: about bug 110881 - you should probably unassign yourself.11:40
ubotuLaunchpad bug 110881 in ktorrent "[SRU]  Citical bug cherrypicks from SVN" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/11088111:40
Kmos!cve 2007-179911:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about cve 2007-1799 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:41
Kmos:(11:41
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LutinRainCT: I can't upload the package for now, it's going to FTBFS on all archs from what I can see11:43
RainCTLutin: so what's the problem with it?11:45
RainCTLaserJock: thanks (dpkg -i)11:45
RainCTis xmms = xine?11:47
LutinRainCT: I think it's somehow related to ffmpeg, I'm waiting for siretart's answer11:47
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KmosRainCT: no11:48
RainCTKmos: ah ok, then I had not noticed it's meny entry before :p11:49
Lutingood night11:51
alexisesi cant conenct inrevue i have uploade  package and i would recept my pass11:52
alexisesi c'ant decrypte my pass  with my gpg hey11:52
alexiseswath i do ?11:53
alexises*what11:53
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alexiseslol11:53
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ScottKLaserJock: Don't get to excited to fast about python-scipy ...  11:54
KmosScottK: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/bzr/ubuntu-cve/ (the source code)11:55
ScottKOK11:55
mwolsonDabian: does the problem you reported still exist if you install this version of jde: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/7707522/jde_2.3.5.1-2_all.deb11:57
RainCTuhm.. is there a reason why OO.o Draw has no icon?11:57
Dabianmwolson: Dunno ... lemme try.11:57
Dabianmwolson: Is it supposed to fix both for emacs21 and emacs-snapshot?12:03
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mwolsonDabian: i don't know12:03
mwolsonDabian: i'm just working through my "checklist"12:03
mwolsonDabian: next step, if the newer package still does not work, is to add the exact output of the error message to the original report12:04
DabianApparently in emacs-snapshot .. I don't even enter jde-mode when I open javafile now.12:04
RainCTshould I work on a fix for bug #75478 for gutsy (see the 2nd comment from end)?12:04
ubotuLaunchpad bug 75478 in openoffice.org "No shortcut to OpenOffice::Draw" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/7547812:04
Dabianmwolson: Apparently in emacs-snapshot .. I don't even enter jde-mode when I open javafile now.  I will test with emacs21.12:05
Dabianmwolson: Same problem.12:06
Dabianmwolson: Apparently the "old" version was somewhat better.12:06
Dabianmwolson: There are some errors or rather warnings when I install the package though.12:08
mwolsonDabian: the warnings probably aren't important12:09
Dabianmwolson: OK12:09
mwolsonDabian: try visiting a Java file and typing M-x jde-mode RET12:09
mwolsonDabian: that should at least allow you to try to trigger the original bug12:10
Dabianmwolson: Well, jde-mode isn't bound to function.  I get "No match"12:10
RainCTLutin: (what's about post a comment on the xmms2 bug telling what that info you await is?)12:10
mwolsonDabian: that's very strange ... have you restarted Emacs since installing the new package12:11
Dabianmwolson: Yes ... I guess that was bad?12:11
mwolsonDabian: no, that was good12:11
Dabianmwolson: OK :)12:11
RainCTah it wasn't you12:12
Dabianmwolson: Trying reinstall.12:12
RainCTah yes it was loo12:13
RainCTloo = lol12:13

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