[12:13] <alexises> mais le problaime c'est que je n'ai qu'as ma disposition les sources du programme et les resources avec le programme compiller
[12:14] <alexises> donc je suis tirrailler que faire pour respecter la dbian polyci qui dit de ne pas modifier les sources
[12:14] <jussi01> hmmm, now what that in english?
[12:14] <alexises> ho sorry
[12:15] <alexises> for my englis
[12:15] <alexises> i repeat in englis
[12:15] <jussi01> ok
[12:15] <alexises> i have creat  debian package for ubuntu it is a mmorpg tranlath in french
[12:15] <alexises> i must creat 2 package 
[12:16] <alexises> lendes eternelle and landes eternelle date
[12:16] <alexises> i have  problaim to repecte the dedbian policy
[12:16] <bashelier> alexises: date ?
[12:16] <alexises> data 
[12:16] <bashelier> ok
[12:18] <alexises> i have 1 zip that the c source code and 1 zip that  compille source code and the file to execute correctely the program
[12:18] <alexises> thenks for your help and sorry i have don't read that is  english chanel
[12:20] <jussi01> alexises: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing ??
[12:20] <alexises> no thenks
[12:21] <alexises> i have make an error ?
[12:21] <alexises> *do
[12:22] <jussi01> alexises: I dont know, but if you havent read that, you should :D
[12:23] <alexises> ok i have read  hoxto in french
[12:23] <bashelier> jussi01: ^^"
[12:24] <jussi01> bashelier: ??
[12:24] <bashelier> alexises: what is the problem exactly ?
[12:24] <bashelier> jussi01: nothing, just about what you have just said :)
[12:24] <alexises> i donc know to do to respecte the debian policy
[12:24] <jussi01> hehe :D
[12:25] <jussi01> alexises: which part of the policy?
[12:25] <alexises> i have 2 archiev one in a sources code and oine to the resources and the compil programm
[12:25] <bashelier> alexises: well, you should perhaps read it first, and then tell us what is the problem with your package
[12:25] <alexises> don't modyfy the original tar.gz
[12:26] <alexises> ok
[12:26] <bashelier> alexises: you can repack the orig tarball, see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.en.html#s-bpp-origtargz
[12:26] <alexises> bashelier : would you my dead
[12:27] <alexises> fenks
[12:27] <jussi01> alexises: also http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/index.en.html#contents is very useful
[12:28] <bashelier> alexises: here are the french translations : http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ch-best-pkging-practices.fr.html#s-bpp-origtargz and http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/index.fr.html#contents
[12:28] <fernando> Can somebody to review (and upload if ok) http://www.nerdgroup.org/fernando/ubuntu/gutsy/fwbuilder/ ?
[12:29] <alexises> i eat the howto
[12:29] <alexises> it is delichos in french
[12:29] <bashelier> fernando: could you please run debuild clean before ? :)
[12:30] <bashelier> alexises: good ^^
[12:31] <bashelier> sweet dreams jussi01 :)
[12:31] <pochu> Good night jussi01!
[12:31] <alexises> ok enks i can reampckt the torball thanks
[12:32] <bashelier> alexises: np... ^^"
[12:32] <alexises> it is normal for me te fenks for help me 
[12:34] <fernando> hey pochu 
[12:35] <pochu> howdy fernando :)
[12:37] <DarkSun88> G'night
[12:39] <fernando> bashelier: clean ok
[12:43] <LaserJock> anybody know if seahorse works properly with debuild yet?
[12:43] <RainCT> good night
[12:46] <bashelier> fernando: then why is there still a /tmp directory in debian/ ? :/
[12:47] <Cheatr> Could someone here explain to me how to go about fixing unmet dependencies?
[12:47] <blueyed> Hi.
[12:48] <Cheatr> hi
[12:48] <blueyed> Does the following changelog entry look ok? http://paste.lisp.org/display/42129
[12:48] <blueyed> Cheatr: unmet deps when building a package?
[12:49] <Cheatr> blueyed: No, unmet dependencies when installing a package.
[12:50] <bashelier> Cheatr: add Dependencies to the binary package ?
[12:51] <blueyed> Cheatr: please provide a paste of the output/error.
[12:51] <fernando> bashelier: sorry, my rsync fail. Now it's ok.
[12:51] <bashelier> fernando: thanks, looks better now :)
[12:52] <effie_jayx> nixternal, ping
[12:52] <Cheatr> bashelier and blueyed: These aren't errors I'm experiencing. I'm interesting in fixing the bugs on launchpad that occur from unmet dependencies. This usually means the package they need is not in the repositories
[12:53] <fernando> bug #105495 is not pysycache ? psysycache.org not found
[12:53] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 105495 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  psysycache" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/105495
[12:53] <fernando> can I fix this?
[12:53] <bashelier> Cheatr: do you have an example ? unmet dependencies are dependencies, which mean packages aire in the repos
[12:54] <Cheatr> bashelier: All of the bugs here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=datecreated&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=Unconfirmed&field.status%3Alist=Needs+Info&field.status%3Alist=Confirmed&field.status%3Alist=In+Progress&field.status%3Alist=Fix+Committed&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.owner=&field.component=4&field.component=3&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream=&field.
[12:54] <Cheatr> status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.tag=unmetdeps&field.has_no_package.used=
[12:54] <bashelier> outch
[12:54] <bashelier> fernando: packaging psysycache :)
[12:54] <Cheatr> bashelier: sorry for the long url: http://tinyurl.com/2ueccz
[12:55] <fernando> bashelier: Homepage : http://www.psysycache.org/ don't exists
[12:56] <bashelier> fernando: http://www.pysycache.org/, there is an error in the bug repport
[12:57] <effie_jayx> leonel,  ping
[12:57] <blueyed> Is it normal that a debdiff uses paths like "/tmp/J679DF6zT0/duplicity-0.4.2/debian/changelog" - this does not work with the "patch -p1" command in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuPackagingGuide/BuildFromDebdiff (it would need "-p4")
[12:57] <fernando> bashelier: I'm fixing the bug report. I can to package it?
[12:57] <leonel> effie_jayx: pong
[12:57] <fernando> s/I\scan/Can\sI/
[12:57] <bashelier> Cheatr: in this case packages are already in repos, but not installable, which is different, I could be because of conflicts for example
[12:58] <bashelier> fernando: 1) package it 2) put it on REVU 3) once you get 2 advocatings, set the bug ad "fix commited" 4) once the package is build, set the bug as "fix realised"
[12:59] <fernando> bashelier: ok, thanks
[12:59] <effie_jayx> leonel,  could you give me a hand... I have to test build clamav for gutsy it using my pbuilder, make a debdiff, and attach that to a bug so a MOTU can get it an upload it.... can you help me 
[12:59] <bashelier> fernando: good luck ;)
[12:59] <fernando> the source is in .zip =)
[12:59] <Cheatr> bashelier: Thanks for the clarification.
[12:59] <blueyed> fernando: and fix the URL in the bug desc, while you're at it :)
[12:59] <leonel> effie_jayx: what you need ? 
[01:00] <fernando> blueyed: already fixed
[01:00] <effie_jayx> I have donde merge-buildpackage
[01:00] <leonel> effie_jayx: do you want me to download   clamav for gutsy  and test it ?
[01:01] <fernando> the source have 31 MB o0
[01:01] <effie_jayx> leonel, I am learning ... I need to know where to go next
[01:01] <effie_jayx> leonel,  I need to test build it first
[01:02] <leonel> effie_jayx: I don't have gutsy installed    I'm planning to install it  on  sunday to start  testing  things there
[01:02] <effie_jayx> leonel,  I have a pbuilder for gutsy
[01:03] <leonel> effie_jayx: hold on  let me install gutsy  now  
[01:04] <leonel> give me  time to do so 
[01:05] <effie_jayx> leonel,  you don't have to do that... I can pbuild-gutsy
[01:05] <leonel> but that's for building  isn't it ?
[01:05] <blueyed> Ok. About the -p4 vs -p1 thing in the debdiff. I've installed patchutils, as suggested by debdiff and now it looks better. JFI.
[01:05] <leonel> a you want me to build it ?
[01:05] <leonel> OK
[01:05] <leonel> that's faster
[01:06] <effie_jayx> leonel,  I need to test build it .. yes
[01:06] <effie_jayx> and then do a debdiff
[01:07] <leonel> ok hold on let me  do the pbuilder  for  gutsy
[01:09] <leonel> wow  
[01:09] <effie_jayx> leonel,  what happened?
[01:10] <leonel> how do I create for gutsy  in feisty  just  rename   pbuilder-feisty to pbuilder-gutsy 
[01:10] <leonel> or do I need another package ?
[01:10] <effie_jayx> leonel,  rename ... that's it
[01:11] <leonel> effie_jayx: when I ran it  this  message gives :
[01:11] <leonel> E: No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/gutsy
[01:11] <effie_jayx> you executed ? what
[01:12] <leonel> sh pbuilder-gutsy create 
[01:12] <blueyed> "The upload target must be release-proposed" at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/SRU is obsolete/wrong, isn't it?
[01:13] <crimsun> blueyed: wrong?  for an SRU?  No.
[01:13] <crimsun> the initial upload of an SRU is always to $release-proposed
[01:14] <leonel> crimsun: to create pbuilder for  gutsy  in feisty   ?
[01:14] <blueyed> crimsun: ah, sure. I'd thought it refered to the changelog entry.
[01:14] <crimsun> blueyed: it does.  The distribution entry is $release-proposed.
[01:15] <effie_jayx> leonel,  I just pbuild-gusty
[01:15] <effie_jayx> all ok
[01:15] <crimsun> leonel: you could backport/use gutsy's
[01:16] <crimsun> leonel: or just create a feisty one and dist-upgrade using login --save-after-login
[01:17] <leonel> ok 
[01:17] <leonel> thanks
[01:18] <blueyed> Hasn't that changed recently, crimsun? I think I've read about in in the UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter. Or was this for -backports?
[01:18] <leonel> crimsun: or if I have gutsy installed  just  use the pbuilder script ...
[01:18] <leonel> ?
[01:18] <crimsun> leonel: correct
[01:18] <crimsun> blueyed: has "what" changed?
[01:19] <leonel> ok  I needed to install gutsy anyway 
[01:19] <leonel> hold on
[01:19] <effie_jayx> leonel,  
[01:19] <effie_jayx> I did the pbuild now I debdiff from the debian .dsc ?
[01:19] <blueyed> crimsun: That "-proposed" is not needed anymore. Sorry, I'll just change it in the debdiff, according to the wiki.
[01:20] <leonel> effie_jayx:  yes
[01:21] <effie_jayx> leonel,  the diff file must have a name? a specific name?
[01:21] <crimsun> blueyed: I've not seen it come across -devel, -devel-discuss, or -devel-announce
[01:21] <leonel> no just a representative name      .debdiff
[01:21] <effie_jayx> leonel,  then what do I attachto a bug for a motu to upload?
[01:22] <leonel> attach the debdiff   saying it's a patch  
[01:22] <crimsun> blueyed: the only recent change I'm aware of for SRU is that we no longer do a second upload to $release-updates.  Soyuz has the functionality now to handle $release-proposed -> $release-updates.
[01:22] <effie_jayx> ok
[01:22] <leonel> effie_jayx: and a description of what it does
[01:23] <effie_jayx> leonel,  ok
[01:24] <blueyed> Yes, crimsun. I've confused this. Sorry.
[01:26] <effie_jayx> leonel,  the debdiff doesn't show the change I did ... is that ok?
[01:28] <leonel> how you did  the debdiff ?
[01:28] <effie_jayx> leonel,  debdiff clamav_0.90.3-1.dsc clamav_0.90.3-1ubuntu1.dsc > ubuclamav_0.90.3-1.diff
[01:29] <leonel> there must be  changes  
[01:30] <leonel> was that a patch  or merge?
[01:30] <leonel> was a merge ..
[01:30] <leonel> WE need  help ...
[01:30] <leonel> I'm learning too  and  never done a merge 
[01:31] <effie_jayx> leonel,  well I did a change followin the instructions so everything should be fine
[01:31] <effie_jayx> If I did the changes 
[01:31] <effie_jayx> the debdiff should not show any more changes... 
[01:32] <effie_jayx> but that's just my common sence
[01:35] <effie_jayx> crimsun, a question... I am merging a package... I applied the change to the file... pbuild it.. do a debdiff and I get no futher changes on the debdiff
[01:35] <effie_jayx> is that ok?
[01:36] <effie_jayx> leonel,  my common sence tells me we are on the right path
[01:36] <effie_jayx> nixternal,  ping
[01:36] <leonel> If you did all right  that's the way ..
[01:37] <effie_jayx> leonel,  i remember ScottK 's words ... so it should be ok
[01:37] <leonel> ok
[01:41] <blueyed> Is bug 88617 ok for SRU now?
[01:41] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 88617 in duplicity "incremental backup does not work" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/88617
[01:44] <effie_jayx> leonel,  you just merged clamav for feisty didnt you?
[01:47] <effie_jayx> leonel,  ok ... what Should I attach to a bug :S
[01:49] <superm1> crimsun, I fixed the two changes you had mentioned in libhdhomerun yesterday.  Would you be able to give it a formal/revu/advocation/upload etc?
[02:01] <crimsun> effie_jayx: what do you mean that you "get no further changes on the debdiff"?
[02:02] <crimsun> blueyed: we don't place "* Non-maintainer upload" in our changelog entries.
[02:02] <crimsun> blueyed: furthermore, the -proposed version should be 0.4.2-10.1ubuntu1.1, not 0.4.2-10.1ubuntu2
[02:03] <crimsun> blueyed: with those changes made, the SRU proposed debdiff looks ok
[02:03] <crimsun> superm1: I'll look now.
[02:03] <superm1> thanks crimsun 
[02:08] <blueyed> crimsun: fixed. Thanks for reviewing. Now I'll have to wait until somebody uploads it, correct?
[02:09] <crimsun> blueyed: I'll review it in a few minutes.
[02:09] <crimsun> superm1: any reason you wanted to GPL your packaging instead of LGPL?
[02:10] <superm1> didnt matter to me one way or another
[02:10] <superm1> figured it would be easier for same license on everything
[02:10] <crimsun> (it doesn't effectively change much, but be aware that there's no COPYING or gpl.txt, which you do have to distribute if you GPL it.)
[02:11] <crimsun> currently there are two referenced licenses in the source package, LGPL and GPL.  libhdhomerun itself is LGPL; your packaging is GPL.
[02:12] <superm1> and the lgpl.txt will only cover the source itself
[02:12] <superm1> i see
[02:12] <superm1> so both *should* be shipped in this case
[02:12] <crimsun> yes, since you explicitly state the packaging is redistributable under GPL.
[02:12] <superm1> then i think it will be easiest to just license as all LGPL
[02:13] <superm1> i'll switch that around
[02:13] <pochu> Good night everybody!
[02:14] <TheMuso> grrr. Gotta love big companies.
[02:14] <TheMuso> So IBM just dropped GNOME accessibility development.
[02:15] <crimsun> utterly, or just sponsorship?
[02:16] <TheMuso> crimsun: LSR development is being stopped, and the other bits are only going to be kept up to date until someone else from the community knows them well enough to take over maintainership.
[02:16] <crimsun> hmph.
[02:16] <TheMuso> As much as I'd rather one screen reader, I'm pretty pissed off right now.
[02:17] <TheMuso> THings like this only cause me to loose faith in companies involved with Linux.
[02:17] <crimsun> that may be a bit hasty
[02:17] <TheMuso> Canonical is an exception.
[02:17] <TheMuso> crimsun: May be, but thats the way I feel at the moment.
[02:17] <crimsun> superm1 has access to bluepages, but if he sees anything marked Conf, I doubt he can divulge. :-)
[02:18] <superm1> hehe
[02:18] <superm1> crimsun, what are you asking me to do here....... :)
[02:18] <crimsun> nothing at all.  Been in that position.
[02:18] <superm1> any idea who in IBM was supporting it before?
[02:20] <crimsun> Peter Parente seems to have written the status update
[02:20] <crimsun> [http://mail.gnome.org/archives/lsr-list/2007-June/msg00000.html] 
[02:20] <effie_jayx> crimsun,  leonel  and I need some help with a merge... we are learning...
[02:20] <effie_jayx> be back in a while 
[02:20] <crimsun> ok
[02:21] <superm1> crimsun, provided that is all you found with the package, here is the updated: http://revu.tauware.de./details.py?upid=5342
[02:30] <superm1> after browsing a bit, there isn't anything overly informative internally.  most of the internal sites just link to the project on gnome.org anyhow.  Parente doesn't even have an internal blog.
[02:30] <crimsun> that's ok, I didn't either :-)
[02:31] <TheMuso> I'll cool down. Just a little pissed.
[02:31] <TheMuso> They've decided to focus on cross-platform stuff.
[02:31] <superm1> my only entry on my internal blog is my experience setting up feisty in IBM
[02:35] <crimsun> yay -> hobbsee
[02:35] <superm1> crimsun, thx for the revu.  Should I yet grab one more (or grab ScottK again) or can you upload on that basis?
[02:38] <crimsun> superm1: read -motu :)
[02:39] <crimsun> (or https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2007-June/001684.html if you need a direct URL)
[02:40] <superm1> oh awesome!.  Thanks crimsun 
[02:40] <crimsun> np, thank -you-
[03:46] <Daskreech> What happened to the commercal repo?
[03:50] <TheMuso> c
[03:50] <TheMuso> ugh
[03:54] <Daskreech> TheMuso: Was that for me?
[04:05] <TheMuso> Daskreech: No/
[04:06] <TheMuso> Just my KVM playing up.
[04:06] <Daskreech> ok
[04:06] <Daskreech> Is the Commercial repo intended to be LTS only or has the idea been dropped?
[04:08] <lathiat> im pretty sure theres like vmware and such in the feisty commemrcial repo?
[04:10] <Daskreech> there is a commercial repo?
[04:11] <Daskreech> well I stopped trying n edgy 
[04:11] <Daskreech>  ti didn't work in edgy
[04:11] <Daskreech> it's still there?
[04:16] <superm1> between edgy commercial and feisty commercial i see opera realplay and vmware server
[04:16] <superm1> and i just installed opera from it no problem
[04:16] <Daskreech> Ah Ok. what are the requirements to get on that repo?
[04:16] <Daskreech> free and non-speech free ?
[04:17] <superm1> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ edgy-commercial main
[04:17] <superm1> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ feisty-commercial main
[04:17] <superm1> is what i have
[04:17] <Daskreech> ok
[04:27] <nixternal> this libhttp package is a bigger pain than I thought...possibly to the point to where I am going to create a fork of the original to satisfy emdebian
[04:27] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee!
[04:28] <Hobbsee> hey nixternal!
[04:45] <Hobbsee> crimsun: :)
[05:22] <effie_jayx> nixternal,  ping
[05:31] <nixternal> effie_jayx: pong?
[05:57] <leonel> motus  good night ..
[08:13] <wattazoum> Hello, 
[08:13] <wattazoum> I am here for my first active Hug Day
[08:13] <wattazoum> :)
[08:14] <jussi01> damn, where is persia when you need him...
[08:22] <wattazoum> jussi01: who is persia ?
[08:24] <jussi01> wattazoum: persia is one of the MOTU's and my mentor. https://launchpad.net/~persia
[08:25] <wattazoum> jussi01: nice then :-) 
[08:25] <wattazoum> jussi01: that's my first time coming here for HUG day
[08:25] <wattazoum> do I need a mentor ?
[08:27] <jussi01> wattazoum: I think maybe you should check in at #ubuntu-bugs . the mentor is for if you are considering becoming a motu. see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing
[08:28] <wattazoum> jussi01: thank you ;-)
[08:28] <jussi01> :)
[09:41] <joejaxx> Hello All
[09:41] <r00tintheb0x> hi
[09:45] <crimsun> hmm.  rhythmbox 0.10.90-0ubuntu1 doesn't have the tag parsing bug.
[09:45] <crimsun> time for some bug hunting!
[09:45] <joejaxx> :)
[09:45] <StevenK> Wabbit Season!
[09:47] <r00tintheb0x> :)
[09:47] <r00tintheb0x> w00tb1t season
[09:56] <crimsun> mmm zing.
[09:56] <crimsun> gnome 442792
[09:56] <ubotu> Gnome bug 442792 in Importing "ignores tags with trailing spaces" [Normal,New]  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=442792
[09:57] <crimsun> verified with id3tag -n -w  (from the libid3-3.8.3-dev package)
[10:11] <Bixente> ~OSOSOROROS[15~[17~qOROS[15~OROS[15~[17~/quit
[10:11] <crimsun> why yes.
[10:15] <r00tintheb0x> heh
[10:35] <Q-FUNK> can anybody make sense of this? http://rerun.lefant.net/checklib/log.planner_0.14-10.html
[11:34] <DarkSun88> Hi all
[11:34] <RainCT> Hi
[11:35] <DktrKranz> Could you please take a look at the debdiff present in bug #117793? It contains several install/remove fixes
[11:35] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 117793 in dbmail "/var/run/dbmail disappears" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/117793
[11:45] <jekil> hello
[12:12] <afflux> crimsun: I uploaded the debdiff for bug 117847 again.
[12:12] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 117847 in camorama "[Fakemerge]  Please merge camorama 0.18-2 from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/117847
[12:15] <RainCT> how can I see from what package provides a command?
[12:16] <pochu> RainCT: dpkg-query -S <file>
[12:16] <RainCT> pochu: thanks
[12:25] <joejaxx> Hello Everyone :)
[01:13] <Adri2000> Kmos: why did you add the tag upgrade to the doodle sync request? 'upgrade' if for bugs requesting a new upstream release
[01:17] <Kmos> Adri2000: i thought it was for sync too
[01:17] <Kmos> Adri2000: there isn't any tag for that ?
[01:18] <Kmos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Tags
[01:22] <Adri2000> Kmos: maybe there is a tag 'sync', but I don't know what its purpose is. anyway upgrade is wrong for a sync request.
[01:29] <Kmos> Adri2000: ok, thx for your explanation
[01:37] <bashelier> asac: ping
[01:38] <Hobbsee> evening all
[01:38] <bashelier> hey Hobbsee :)
[01:38] <bashelier> (I forgot, congrats!)
[01:39] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  :D
[01:40] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  could you give me a hand with a small merge? I am trying to learn...
[01:43] <Hobbsee> :)
[01:43] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: i'm eating dinner at the moment, but it should be OK
[01:44] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  I'll wait :D
[02:23] <RainCT> are there many small packages like xpenguin?
[02:54] <leonel> ea ea  good moring ..
[02:54] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: what were you after?
[02:55] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  I have been learning to do merges.. i was given a task.
[02:55] <effie_jayx> and I am trying to finish it...
[02:55] <Hobbsee> woo :)
[02:55] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  I am merging clamav 
[02:56] <Hobbsee> ooh, fun
[02:56] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  I am stuck doing the debdiff I guess... 
[02:57] <Hobbsee> right
[02:57] <Hobbsee> what have you done so far?
[02:57] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  I just want to check this... After I make the small modification in the file (The one suggested by the patch)
[02:57] <Hobbsee> yep
[02:57] <effie_jayx> I do ../merge-buildpackage an It all goes ok...
[02:58] <effie_jayx> next is debdiff... here I take the two .dsc the debian one and the ubuntu one... 
[02:58] <effie_jayx> I did it and the output file looks like this... 
[02:59] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23711/
[03:00] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: right
[03:01] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  did I do something wrong?
[03:01] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: it appears you've dropped one of the changes
[03:01] <effie_jayx> ups
[03:02] <Hobbsee> apart from that, it looks perfect
[03:02] <Hobbsee> +    - debian/clamav-freshclam.init.in specify pidfile when starting.  
[03:02] <Hobbsee> that change doesnt seem to be in there
[03:02] <Hobbsee> yet it is in the output MOM gaves you
[03:03] <effie_jayx> mmm... It must have been the debdiff I did 
[03:03] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  I was checking the file that was supposed to have the changes and I saw that the change wasn't there
[03:03] <Hobbsee> sorry?
[03:03] <effie_jayx> ok
[03:04] <effie_jayx> If I check the .patch
[03:04] <Hobbsee> which file that was supposed to have the changes?
[03:04] <Hobbsee> http://merges.ubuntu.com/c/clamav/clamav_0.90.3-1ubuntu1.patch was the patch i was looking at
[03:05] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  yes...
[03:05] <effie_jayx> this bit http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23712/
[03:05] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: right, that that bit wasnt in your debdiff?
[03:05] <effie_jayx> nope
[03:06] <Hobbsee> so you need to fix it so it is :)
[03:07] <Hobbsee> the same way you did the maintainer, etc
[03:07] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  sorry that isn't it
[03:07] <Hobbsee> oh?
[03:08] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23713/    this is it... 
[03:09] <Hobbsee> patch seems the same to me, just with a line above
[03:09] <effie_jayx> ok
[03:10] <effie_jayx> when I open clamav-freshclam.init.in I find the line with the + on the patch
[03:11] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: when did you change that?
[03:11] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  I didn't 
[03:11] <Hobbsee> ie, before or after you ran the ../merge-buildpackage, adn made the debdiff?
[03:11] <Hobbsee> right - i wonder if the original debian source has changed it too
[03:12] <effie_jayx> I can paste the line on the file for you to see.. it came like that
[03:13] <Hobbsee> grab the debian source (it's in your directory if you used grab-merge.sh), use dpkg-source -x debian_thing.dsc,  and have a look if that has that there
[03:13] <Hobbsee> it's odd that MOM would put that output there, if debian's...
[03:13] <Hobbsee> oh, i know.
[03:13] <Hobbsee> wait a sec
[03:13] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  I am using DaD... i
[03:14] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: well, assuming that works the same way as MOM, the directory it creates for you is the one where all it's changes are merged in as much as possible
[03:14] <Hobbsee> which in this case is completely, as there are no conflicts
[03:15] <effie_jayx> ok
[03:16] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  where should I look now...
[03:16] <Hobbsee> which doesnt actually explain why that hasnt shown in the diff from debian....
[03:17] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  should I do a debdiff again
[03:17] <effie_jayx> just to check
[03:18] <Hobbsee> did you do the debdiff against the latest debian, and the version that you want to go into ubuntu?
[03:18] <effie_jayx> yes
[03:18] <Hobbsee> right
[03:18] <effie_jayx> let me do i again just to be sure
[03:18] <Hobbsee> go ahead and do the debdiff again, it wont hurt
[03:20] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  ok... I did the debdiff and the changes are there...
[03:20] <Hobbsee> great :
[03:20] <Hobbsee> _
[03:23] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee, let me test build it 
[03:23] <Hobbsee> ok
[03:23] <Hobbsee> remember that you'll have to use ../merge-buildpackage again after you test build it
[03:24] <effie_jayx> ok I got lost ... 
[03:25] <Hobbsee> ie, part of what's called in merge-buildpackage is also called when you test build
[03:25] <Hobbsee> just with different parameters
[03:25] <Hobbsee> so it'll overwrite your .diff.gz/.dsc each time you run it
[03:25] <effie_jayx> ammm
[03:25] <effie_jayx> ok
[03:25] <Hobbsee> which is fine, as long as you dont change your source directory
[03:26] <Hobbsee> ie, what the buildpackage does, is say 'okay, this is what's in the source directory, let's chuck it into the .diff.gz and the .dsc)
[03:26] <Hobbsee> if that makes sense
[03:26] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee, it does... 
[03:26] <Hobbsee> :)
[03:27] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  I have a pbuilder-gutsy ... just to be sure... what should I test?
[03:28] <Hobbsee> if it builds, if it installs, preferably if it works, too
[03:28] <Hobbsee> but at least hte first two
[03:29] <bashelier> doko: ping
[03:34] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  it builds fine
[03:35] <Hobbsee> yay :)
[03:35] <Hobbsee> does it install?
[03:35] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  I'll try
[03:38] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  how can I install :S
[03:39] <Hobbsee> use pbuilder-gutsy login --bindmounts /var/cache/pbuilder/result and install the deb, and use apt-get -f install to install the needed dependancies
[03:40] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  W: /home/valles/.pbuilderrc does not exist
[03:41] <VoX> hm where would i report a kernel bug?
[03:41] <Hobbsee> it's a warning, you can ignore it
[03:41] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  File extracted to: /var/cache/pbuilder/build//3052
[03:41] <VoX> well, i think it's a kernel bug
[03:41] <StevenK> effie_jayx: You should have a root prompt.
[03:42] <effie_jayx> StevenK,  I do
[03:43] <StevenK> effie_jayx: So now dpkg -i the .deb and then apt-get -f install
[03:43] <StevenK> Note to self: You don't have tab completion of commands in IRC.
[03:44] <effie_jayx> where is the .deb 
[03:45] <Hobbsee>  /var/cache/pbuilder/result usually
[03:45] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  empty
[03:45] <Hobbsee> assuming you havent changed the default
[03:45] <StevenK> pbuilder-gutsy may set it to be under ~
[03:45] <Hobbsee> right, then either --bindmounts buggered up, or you're getting teh result in a different place
[03:47] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  File extracted to: /var/cache/pbuilder/build//30527 
[03:50] <effie_jayx> StevenK,  it was home
[03:50] <effie_jayx> pbuilder folder
[03:50] <StevenK> effie_jayx: Then --bindmounts /home/valles/pbuilder
[03:51] <Hobbsee> effie_jayx: you need to --bindmounts whatever directory you want to be able to use in the pbuilder - which tends to be the results dir
[03:53] <effie_jayx> ok
[03:53] <effie_jayx> got it
[03:55] <polopolo> Hello, Can I also upload programs that's be newer then in the ubuntu program list
[03:55] <polopolo> ?
[03:56] <Hobbsee> to revu?  yes
[03:56] <polopolo> So it's been in a newer version of ubuntu?
[03:56] <Hobbsee> sorry?
[03:57] <Hobbsee> you can upload a newer version of a program than is in the development release to REVU, yes.
[03:57] <polopolo> ok
[03:57] <polopolo> And then that version is intergrated in the version of ubuntu?
[03:58] <Hobbsee> effectively
[03:58] <Hobbsee> the aim is that your packaging of the new upstream version is good enough to go directly into ubuntu
[04:02] <polopolo> great
[04:02] <polopolo> ok, thank you again Hobbesee
[04:03] <effie_jayx> Hobbsee,  dependecy problems when isntalling
[04:03] <StevenK> "and use 
[04:03] <StevenK>                    apt-get -f install to install the needed dependancies"
[04:04] <StevenK> Like she said over 20 minutes ago
[04:04] <effie_jayx> StevenK,  sorry
[04:11] <ScottK> effie_jayx: How is it going?
[04:11] <DarkSun88> Hi all
[04:11] <ScottK> Good morning all.
[04:13] <effie_jayx> ScottK,  it's going
[04:13] <ScottK> effie_jayx: OK.  I'm here if you need help.
[04:14] <effie_jayx> ScottK,  I checked again... the guys here helped me build and install
[04:14] <ScottK> effie_jayx: OK.  Do you have a good debdiff now?
[04:14] <effie_jayx> let me show you
[04:21] <effie_jayx> ScottK,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23726/ debdiff 
[04:23] <ScottK> effie_jayx: Somehow the change to $PIDFILE got lost in what you where doing.  This is how it should look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23727/
[04:26] <effie_jayx> I see
[04:29] <ScottK> effie_jayx: This particular merge seems to have had a lot of odd twists and turns (this definitely gets easier in time).  Rather than go back and redo everything, I'd say lets move forward in the process with the debdiff as I edited it.
[04:33] <ScottK> effie_jayx: The next step is for you to take the debdiff and attach it to a bug asking for the merge.  Bug #112710 is an example.  Post the bug number here when you've done that.
[04:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 112710 in clamav "Merge clamav 0.90.2-1 from Debian Unstable (Main)" [Undecided,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/112710
[04:34] <Lutin> ScottK: the $PIDFILE didn't get lost in what effie_jayx is doing, as it's not in the ubuntu package presently in the archive 
[04:35] <ScottK> Lutin: We made the change earlier.  That's what should be there.  It looks like I screwed up the last merge somehow.
[04:35] <Lutin> ok
[04:35] <ScottK> Which is part of why I'm anxious to get this upload done before they cut a CD next week.
[04:35] <Hobbsee> it's only universe
[04:36] <Hobbsee> as in, so wont freeze as early as main does
[04:36] <ScottK> Yes, but I am assuming once the CD is out people will use it and probably someone will use this package.
[04:37] <Hobbsee> sure, but universe keeps updating
[04:37] <ScottK> So I'd like to get it fixed... (especially since I broke it).
[04:37] <Hobbsee> so they'll just get the package upgrade
[04:37] <Hobbsee> so why havent you fixed it yet? 
[04:37] <Hobbsee> or uploaded someone else's fix?
[04:37] <LasoL> hi
[04:37] <Lutin> hi LasoL 
[04:37] <Hobbsee> hiya
[04:38] <ScottK> Because I noticed the problem while helping effie_jayx with the merge, so it seemed simpler just to get it right in the merge.
[04:38] <ScottK> Hi lasol
[04:38] <Hobbsee> true
[04:39] <LasoL> i want to contribute on ubuntu. I am developer, and i could write code, and make packages. Hi have read the web page about how to be a MOTU. And i have write to a mentor offered of motu. But, this is all? what can i do now? wait for a mail with a mentor?
[04:41] <LasoL> i think that on first time, i may to start doing packaging for meet people. But really i want write code. What do you think?
[04:42] <ScottK> LasoL: You can always jump in and get to work on something.  One thing to do to get started (particularly if you want to code) is look for bugs in Universe packages you can fix.  We can help you get the fixes uploaded.
[04:43] <LasoL> look for bugs in launchpad do you mean?
[04:45] <ScottK> LasoL: Yes.
[04:45] <ScottK> LasoL: What languages do you code in?  Someone here may have a pet bug you could look into.
[04:46] <LasoL> i can code, c, c++, java and php/mysql
[04:47] <ScottK> Anyone got a bug that's been bothering them that LasoL can work on?
[04:47] <Hobbsee> sure, there's plenty in kde *g*
[04:48] <Hobbsee> but that tends to require QT knowledge
[04:48] <LasoL> i dont have qt knowledge :(
[04:48] <StevenK> I'm looking at a inkscape bug, but it seems to be subtle and require Glib knowledge.
[04:49] <LasoL> neither
[04:50] <LasoL> i think that i may to learn glib
[04:50] <joumetal> bug 118316 if merging sounds intresting.
[04:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118316 in ndisgtk "Merge ndisgtk 0.7 from Debian" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118316
[04:52] <joumetal> its' filed by Debian developer of that package.
[04:53] <LasoL> ok, and how can i help on it? 
[04:57] <joumetal> Here is instruction how to merge. I can't help further but in this channel you can get help. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Merging? 
[04:57] <jrib> LasoL: you could try to search for the "bitesize" tagged bugs too
[05:08] <RainCT> can somebody appoint me of an easy package I can try to merge?
[05:14] <LasoL> there arent mentors for fix bugs?
[05:14] <ScottK> LasoL: If it's a universe pacakage, ask here.  Someone will help.
[05:31] <ScottK> effie_jayx: I'm making two small changes to your merge.  I removed the blank line in the middle of the changes and changed urgency from high to low (Ubuntu doesn't use that).  Other than that, it's all good.  I'm doing a test build and then I'll upload it.
[05:37] <effie_jayx> ScottK, good
[05:59] <ScottK> jdong: Did you see my ping the other day about clamtk backport to Feisty?
[06:03] <ScottK> effie_jayx: Uploaded.  Thank you for contributing.
[06:05] <ScottK> effie_jayx: See https://launchpad.net/~effie-jayx/+packages
[06:19] <RainCT> are bug reports send by mail published immediately?
[06:22] <ScottK> RainCT: If your definition of immediately includes a 10 - 15 minute delay, yes.  Otherwise, No.
[06:22] <RainCT> ScottK: ok thx
[06:50] <Pathum> can someone help mw with Kopete?
[07:00] <RainCT> If I opened a merge bug but the package can be synced should I reject it or wait until the sync and the set it as fix released?
[07:11] <ScottK> RainCT: If the package has an existing Ubuntu diff, it won't be autoamtically synced, it needs a sync bug.  Edit the merge bug into a sync bug and subscribe UUS after you are done.
[07:34] <RainCT> ScottK: okay thanks :)
[07:37] <bmm> Ping for anybody wanting to review or advocate ccbuild on REVU http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=5295
[08:20] <RainCT> Can somebody help me configure lpbugs.py for my mail?
[08:22] <LaserJock> minghua: fine ;-)
[08:23] <minghua> LaserJock: just wondering, not pushing :-)
[08:27] <LaserJock> minghua: just to be clear, I get the results that are listed under "For comparison Octave 2.1.73:"
[08:28] <minghua> I remember the correct one should be 4
[08:28] <minghua> but let me look again
[08:28] <LaserJock> yes
[08:28] <LaserJock> I et 4
[08:28] <LaserJock> *get
[08:30] <minghua> LaserJock: yeah, 4 is the correct answer
[08:31] <LaserJock> ok, comment added
[08:32] <minghua> LaserJock: thanks
[08:32] <minghua> the thing is, octave2.1 in feisty also build-depends on gfortran
[08:32] <minghua> which makes the whole argument quite shaky
[08:36] <minghua> be back later
[08:41] <superm1> LaserJock, you get my mail yesterday?
[08:43] <RainCT> can somebody help me with lpbugs.py?
[08:48] <LaserJock> superm1: ah, yes. thanks
[08:48] <superm1> LaserJock, work for you?
[08:48] <LaserJock> haven't tried it yet, but I'm going to
[08:48] <LaserJock> I actually don't run debuild on my laptop much, which is where i installed seahorse
[08:48] <superm1> ah okay.  found it on a launchpad bug some time back
[08:52] <alexises> hello hevery one
[08:52] <alexises> wan i have some help for my debian package
[08:53] <alexises> i have ceat 2 debian package for a game
[08:53] <alexises> and i would like you veryfie my debian rules
[08:53] <alexises> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23767/
[08:56] <RainCT> Can someone appoint me on how to merge xmms? the build dependences are different and on ubuntu's there is a file with a path to python2.5 while debian's goes to python2.4
[09:02] <jussi01> alexises: it would be much easier if we had th whole package. you can use revu for this.
[09:03] <jussi01> !revu
[09:03] <ubotu> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[09:03] <alexises> ok thenks
[09:06] <alexises> i have not yet use revu aber i have a usaccont at launchpad
[09:09] <jussi01> alexises: once you have sorted out the revu details, you need the revu keyring synced. LaserJock ajmitch and others can help with this.
[09:10] <bashelier> mr_pouit: are you using an alternative os ? ^^"
[09:13] <LaserJock> RainCT: Debian's default python version is 2.4 and Ubuntu's is 2.5
[09:15] <RainCT> LaserJock: so I should let Ubuntu's there, or? and what's with the dependences?
[09:16] <alexises> ho it is hard for me
[09:16] <LaserJock> RainCT: well, the new Debian python policy should make it so you shouldn't need to specify a version
[09:17] <RainCT> LaserJock: it's a file called `python-xmmsclient.install' with the content (on Debian) `usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/*'
[09:20] <LaserJock> RainCT: does it have a dependency on python-central in debian/control?
[09:21] <RainCT> LaserJock: no, on python and python-dev
[09:23] <LaserJock> hmm
[09:24] <RainCT> LaserJock: (after looking deeper on them, the dependencies are correct)
[09:25] <LaserJock> how do you mean?
[09:26] <RainCT> LaserJock: I thought build-depends was also different but it's ok
[09:26] <RainCT> LaserJock: so the only difference is that file with python2.4
[09:27] <LaserJock> did you check the Ubuntu changelog?
[09:28] <RainCT> LaserJock: for what?
[09:28] <LaserJock> xmms
[09:28] <RainCT> LaserJock: yes but after what should I look there?
[09:28] <LaserJock> all the changes made by Ubuntu
[09:28] <RainCT> ah yes
[09:29] <RainCT> it's there
[09:29] <RainCT> * debian/python-xmmsclient.install: Fix path for python 2.5 module 
[09:29] <LaserJock> you need to make sure that they are either included in the newer version from Debian or you re-apply them
[09:33] <RainCT> LaserJock: so what have I to do? post a .patch on LP?
[09:33] <RainCT> LaserJock: yes as I said everything is the same, beside this file where it says python2.4 instead of python2.5
[09:50] <LaserJock> RainCT: so you added the .desktop chages and debian/rules stuff?
[09:52] <RainCT> LaserJock: eh? it says nothing about a .desktop file on the changelog
[09:53] <LaserJock> your doing xmms right?
[09:54] <RainCT> LaserJock: yes. http://merges.ubuntu.com/x/xmms2/
[09:54] <RainCT> ah wait
[09:54] <LaserJock> xmms2
[09:56] <RainCT> LaserJock: isn't it the same? I can't find xmms2 with apt-cache
[09:56] <LaserJock> they aren't the same
[09:58] <LaserJock> RainCT: xmms2 has never built in gutsy
[09:58] <RainCT> ag
[09:58] <RainCT> * ah
[09:59] <LaserJock> nor in feisty that I can tell
[09:59] <RainCT> because libfaad2-dev or wasn't this required in previous versions?
[10:00] <RainCT> (installing the build dependences it says libfaad2-dev doesn't exist)
[10:01] <LaserJock> Checking for working C compiler... no
[10:01] <LaserJock> OPTION CC MUST POINT TO A VALID C COMPILER!
[10:02] <Lutin> LaserJock: this is the scons bug I guess ?
[10:03] <LaserJock> looks like it to me
[10:04] <RainCT> I think scons isn't required anymore (can confirm that in a few minutes)
[10:05] <Lutin> I've looked into that bug some time ago, but has not been able to find out any significant information :/
[10:06] <Lutin> have*
[10:09] <RainCT> confirmed, scons isn't needed anymore
[10:09] <RainCT> but there is now that libfaad2-dev. don't know if it's in gutsy, but I can't find it for Feisty
[10:11] <RainCT> btw, what's the difference between debuild -S and debuild -S -sa?
[10:13] <LaserJock> -sa includes the .orig.tar.gz in the .dsc
[10:13] <LaserJock> so that would be if there as a new upstream release
[10:13] <LaserJock> and you needed to upload the new .orig.tar.gz
[10:15] <alexises> can i have some helmp to register me to revu if possible in french 
[10:16] <alexises> i have yet read the howto
[10:17] <stgraber> alexises: do you have a gpg key added to your LP profile ?
[10:17] <alexises> not yet
[10:17] <alexises> aber i have yet  gpg key
[10:17] <Lutin> alexises: s/aber/but
[10:17] <alexises> ho sorry i sprehc german in deutch
[10:18] <alexises> *speak
[10:18] <alexises> *english
[10:18] <RainCT> Is the merge debdiff in bug #118422 okay? (beside it doesn't build because libfaad-dev isn't there)
[10:18] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 118422 in xmms2 "xmms2: merge new debian version" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118422
[10:18] <stgraber> ok, then start by adding your GPG key to your LP profile
[10:18] <alexises> ok
[10:20] <RainCT> lucas: where can I find the build logs?
[10:21] <alexises> how i install my gpg key  in my lunchpad accont
[10:21] <Lutin> RainCT: you've discarded another change (build-depend on git-core) and forgot to mention the maintainer change as an ubuntu change
[10:21] <bashelier> hey Lutin :)
[10:21] <Lutin> RainCT: unless there's a reason to drop this B-D of course
[10:21] <Lutin> heya bashelier 
[10:22] <Lutin> how're doing ? ;)
[10:22] <Lutin> +you
[10:23] <RainCT> Lutin: the maintainer field changed since 0.2DrHouse-3.1ubuntu3
[10:23] <alexises> stgraber woh i add my gpg key in lunchpad
[10:23] <Lutin> RainCT: and as a consequence, it's an ubuntu change, isn't it ?
[10:23] <bashelier> Lutin: fine fine :) what about you ?
[10:24] <Lutin> bashelier: quite good, thanks
[10:24] <RainCT> Lutin: yes, but it's already on the changelog on that verison changes
[10:24] <stgraber> alexises: https://launchpad.net/~YOUR-ACCOUNT/+editpgpkeys
[10:24] <alexises> ok
[10:24] <RainCT> Lutin: or does it need to be written again for each merge?
[10:24] <stgraber> alexises: then put your GPG fingerprint and click the import key button
[10:25] <Lutin> RainCT: for each new merge you have to list all the ubuntu changes remaining to the package I'd say
[10:25] <RainCT> Lutin: ah okay
[10:26] <Lutin> RainCT: but even if you don't list the maintainer thing, the git-core thing remains
[10:26] <Lutin> as you've not stated any reason to drop it, I assume we have to keep it ?
[10:28] <RainCT> Lutin: okay, added both and debuilding
[10:28] <Lutin> RainCT: ok
[10:30] <RainCT> Lutin: uploaded
[10:31] <ScottK> LaserJock: I just dput the merge of python-scipy from Debian experimental.  It might actually work with python-numpy now once that's built.
[10:31] <Lutin> RainCT: looks way better
[10:31] <RainCT> :)
[10:32] <jussi01> Hmmm, could someone take a quick read of my wiki and make sure I havent any spelling/gramamtical errors? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JussiSchultink?action=show thanks :D
[10:34] <LaserJock> ScottK: excellent, thanks
[10:34] <stgraber> jussi01: the style of the Forums line doesn't look right
[10:34] <ScottK> No problem.  We are now one patch away from a Synch with Debian, BTW.
[10:35] <RainCT> Lutin: so what's with that lib?
[10:35] <Lutin> RainCT: just noticed that XS-Python-Version would require an update from 2.4 to 2.5. as I'm reviewing the package, do you mind if I updtae it directly ?
[10:35] <jussi01> stgraber: how so? if you like suggest a change?
[10:35] <Lutin> RainCT: what lib ?
[10:36] <RainCT> Lutin: libfaad-dev
[10:36] <Lutin> RainCT: what was the issue with it ?
[10:36] <Lutin> doesn't exist in ubuntu ?
[10:37] <RainCT> Lutin: it doesn't exist in Ubuntu
[10:37] <RainCT> at least not in Feisty
[10:37] <Lutin> guess libfaad2-dev is 
[10:37] <Lutin> looks like a perfect replacement
[10:38] <RainCT> let's try
[10:39] <stgraber> jussi01: refresh
[10:40] <jussi01> stgraber: doesnt seem any different to me...
[10:41] <jussi01> ahh...now then
[10:41] <jussi01> :D thanks
[10:41] <stgraber> moved Forum to Ubuntuforums, put it into bold and put a link to your forum profile instead of simply your forum name
[10:43] <alexises> i have install my gpg key in lunchpad
[10:43] <bashelier> alexises: good :)
[10:43] <alexises> wath i do after
[10:43] <alexises> *what
[10:44] <bashelier> alexises: so, you would like to upload a package on revu, right ?
[10:44] <alexises> yes
[10:44] <bashelier> alexises: then, first do debuild -S -sa -kKEY_ID
[10:44] <jussi01> stgraber: that works excellent now, thanks. o you have any other feed back?
[10:45] <bashelier> alexises: where KEY_ID, is the id of your gpg key, for example 21275CC4
[10:45] <alexises> i have yet do on may debian package 
[10:45] <stgraber> alexises: join the https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-contributors team
[10:45] <alexises> i have already suscrypte
[10:46] <stgraber> alexises: then you'll have to wait till someone update the keyring, once done you'll be able to upload to revu
[10:46] <alexises> ok
[10:47] <Lutin> uh, wtf ? xmms2 in debian is missing 2 changelog entries
[10:48] <RainCT> eh?
[10:49] <Lutin> RainCT: look at your debdiff, it's including two unstable changelog entries
[10:49] <Lutin> seems that the entries dor DrHouse-3 and -3.1 just got nuked
[10:50] <Lutin> (in debian)
[10:50] <RainCT> oh :s
[10:52] <LaserJock> Lutin: where they in experimental?
[10:52] <LaserJock> sometimes that happens
[10:53] <Lutin> LaserJock: no, they were in unstable
[10:53] <RainCT> Lutin: will you open a bug report there? or just ignore this, as it isn't our problem?
[10:54] <Lutin> RainCT: I'll refer to one of the MOTU deities :)
[10:55] <RainCT> well, it seems the package is building
[10:55] <LaserJock> I wouldn't really consider it a bug
[10:55] <LaserJock> you could always email the maintainer to let them know
[10:55] <Lutin> LaserJock: what's the best hing to do in that case, just include the missing entries in the upload ?
[10:56] <RainCT> they will probably wait for the next version to fix it then? because it's just stupid to let people download again that package of many MB only because of the changelog
[10:57] <alexises> stgber : ho low time to update the keyring ?
[10:58] <Lutin> yep. and would avoid the question 'why do we have -3.1ubuntu1 as debian stops to -2 ?'
[10:58] <LaserJock> Lutin: not on the Ubuntu end
[10:59] <Lutin> LaserJock: why ?
[10:59] <LaserJock> ScottK: yeah, but just emailing the maintainer is the best way to go
[10:59] <LaserJock> it's useless diff
[10:59] <Lutin> sure
[10:59] <Lutin> sigh. fails to build on amd64
[11:00] <RainCT> shall I mail him?
[11:00] <LaserJock> I'm fairly sure it isn't a Policy violation or anything like that
[11:00] <LaserJock> could be wrong though
[11:01] <LaserJock> I suppose it would only hurt if they aren't identical and you get a conflict in the changelog
[11:01] <RainCT> Lutin: I could build it
[11:01] <RainCT> just finished
[11:01] <Lutin> RainCT: but you don't have an amd64, do you ?
[11:02] <RainCT> no :p
[11:02] <RainCT> Lutin: where can you see if it build?
[11:03] <Lutin> RainCT: well, look a the result of your pbuilder :)
[11:03] <jussi01> alexises: just kindly ask LaserJockto help... he does that stuff...
[11:03] <RainCT> ah ok
[11:03] <RainCT> Lutin: can you simulate whatever you want there?
[11:04] <Lutin> RainCT: I don't understand, sorry
[11:04] <RainCT> Lutin: can you simulate an amd64 there, or do have you one? 
[11:04] <RainCT> * do you have
[11:04] <Lutin> I have one
[11:04] <RainCT> ah :p
[11:05] <RainCT> you've the last debdiff?
[11:05] <Lutin> yes 
[11:06] <LaserJock> alexises: I'm updating the keyring right now, I'll let you know when it's done
[11:06] <lucas> RainCT: on launchpad, on the source package page
[11:06] <RainCT> Lutin: no idea what's the problem?
[11:07] <Lutin> RainCT: I know what the problem is
[11:07] <Lutin> I also know I'm not able to fix it
[11:08] <RainCT> ah great
[11:08] <RainCT> lucas: ok thanks
[11:09] <Lutin> RainCT: btw, you have to mention the faad change in the changelog
[11:09] <RainCT> eh.. no
[11:10] <RainCT> one moment
[11:10] <LaserJock> ScottK: do you work with CVEs much?
[11:11] <alexises> thenks
[11:12] <RainCT> I've one question.. if one out of all the packages generated by xmms2 is changed, do all other ones get updated too (and users have to download them again)?
[11:13] <RainCT> Lutin: done
[11:13] <Lutin> yes
[11:14] <RainCT> why are there then that many packages?
[11:14] <Lutin> RainCT: err. this is not a merged ubuntu change, but a new change, so you have to list it in a different changelog point
[11:16] <Lutin> hum, seems there is something that screws up with the dts change in ffmpeg during the xmms2 build
[11:17] <LaserJock> RainCT: you think there should be fewer packages?
[11:18] <RainCT> Lutin: uploaded
[11:18] <mwolson> i'm contemplating using Qemu and some Ubuntu-based media distro CD to play media, since vlc and gxine are both broken in gutsy at the moment
[11:19] <RainCT> LaserJock: well, I don't see the sense of having that many packages depending each on another if they anyways have to be downloaded all again if one of them changes
[11:19] <Dabian> mwolson: What about GNU Emacs ... is that vers. 22 it gut now?
[11:19] <Dabian> s/22 it/22 in/
[11:20] <Dabian> s/gut/gutsy/
[11:20] <RainCT> LaserJock: i've already installed 5 packages to be able to install the main xmms2 one
[11:20] <mwolson> Dabian: i don't see it there, though gutsy does have a very recent build of emacs-snapshot
[11:21] <LaserJock> RainCT: that's the nature of it. Your going to have to download it one way or another
[11:21] <LaserJock> RainCT: splitting it up is mostly just a logical and organizational tool
[11:21] <LaserJock> RainCT: and allows for some more fine grained control
[11:22] <LaserJock> if you were to build it from source you'd have to do the same thing
[11:22] <RainCT> well.. is there a command to install .debs from terminal?
[11:22] <Dabian> mwolson: There are problems with the jde-package and GNU Emacs in fiesty .. do you have an email I may use to get help fixing that, or are you too busy?
[11:22] <RainCT> and that accepts *.deb
[11:23] <Dabian> (It seems people are using vi and python instead, generally)
[11:23] <Lutin> siretart: around ?
[11:24] <LaserJock> alexises: it's done syncing, you can upload source packages (make sure to use source.changes file) to REVU now
[11:24] <LaserJock> RainCT: dpkg -i ?
[11:25] <mwolson> Dabian: email me: mwolson at member dot fsf dot org and I'll try to fix it; be specific about what version of Emacs you're using; no guarantees though
[11:25] <mwolson> Dabian: actually ... hold on a sec
[11:25] <Dabian> mwolson: OK
[11:26] <alexises> thenks
[11:26] <mwolson> Dabian: go here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jde/, see if the bug already exists, create a new bug otherwise, and let me know what the resulting bug number is
[11:26] <Lutin> siretart: I saw you removed the dts support from ffmpeg. as libavcodec-dev no longer depends on libdts-dev and liba52-dev, they should no longer appear in ffmpeg-config --libs avcodec, should they ? that screws some builds up. (eg. xmms2)
[11:27] <Dabian> mwolson: The bug is already confirmed.
[11:27] <Dabian> mwolson: 115527
[11:27] <Lutin> RainCT: I can't upload the package for now, it's going to FTBFS on all archs from what I can see
[11:28] <mwolson> Dabian: ok, i've subscribed to it and will take a look this afternoon
[11:28] <Dabian> mwolson: OK
[11:29] <Lutin> siretart: and same for --plugin-libs btw
[11:29] <mwolson> Dabian: i'm currently trying to get some sort of ubuntu-emacs mailing list going so that Emacs Lisp package bugs that aren't fixed within a certain amount of time can be reported
[11:29] <Dabian> mwolson: Its a bit of a bedbug, because its not clear to me if one should remove code from xemacs-base-support and create independend packages for each version of emacsen, including xemacs.
[11:30] <alexises> i have forgate the hotow for uploade tu revue
[11:30] <Dabian> mwolson: I wouldn't mind helping on that, if I get some mentoring.
[11:30] <alexises> i have  ide
[11:30] <alexises> !revu
[11:30] <ubotu> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[11:30] <ScottK> LaserJock: Some.  I've done a few of security uploads.
[11:30] <Lutin> alexises: 'I have an idea'
[11:31] <LaserJock> ScottK: what do you think of bug #1706
[11:31] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 1706 in malone "Malone/Launchpad should be CVE compatible" [Medium,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/1706
[11:33] <ScottK> LaserJock: I agree with the comment that says to generic to be actionable.  We have some compatibility already...  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.has_cve=on
[11:34] <LaserJock> ScottK: do you think more could be done within LP?
[11:34] <LaserJock> or do you feel what we have is enough?
[11:36] <LaserJock> I haven't seen that has_cve field, that's pretty cool
[11:36] <ScottK> It's linked off of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[11:36] <Kmos> http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ubuntu-cve/
[11:36] <LaserJock> ScottK: like I go there ;-)
[11:37] <LaserJock> oh nifty, the bug pie chart works
[11:37] <ScottK> Kmos: Is that all of Ubuntu or just main/restricted?
[11:39] <Kmos> CVE-2007-2650 	
[11:39] <Kmos> clamav	(feisty-security/universe)
[11:39] <Kmos> i think it's all
[11:39] <Kmos> http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2007-2650
[11:40] <blueyed> jdong: about bug 110881 - you should probably unassign yourself.
[11:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 110881 in ktorrent "[SRU]  Citical bug cherrypicks from SVN" [Undecided,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/110881
[11:41] <Kmos> !cve 2007-1799
[11:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cve 2007-1799 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:41] <Kmos> :(
[11:43] <Lutin> RainCT: I can't upload the package for now, it's going to FTBFS on all archs from what I can see
[11:45] <RainCT> Lutin: so what's the problem with it?
[11:45] <RainCT> LaserJock: thanks (dpkg -i)
[11:47] <RainCT> is xmms = xine?
[11:47] <Lutin> RainCT: I think it's somehow related to ffmpeg, I'm waiting for siretart's answer
[11:48] <Kmos> RainCT: no
[11:49] <RainCT> Kmos: ah ok, then I had not noticed it's meny entry before :p
[11:51] <Lutin> good night
[11:52] <alexises> i cant conenct inrevue i have uploade  package and i would recept my pass
[11:52] <alexises> i c'ant decrypte my pass  with my gpg hey
[11:53] <alexises> wath i do ?
[11:53] <alexises> *what
[11:53] <alexises> lol
[11:54] <ScottK> LaserJock: Don't get to excited to fast about python-scipy ...  
[11:55] <Kmos> ScottK: http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/bzr/ubuntu-cve/ (the source code)
[11:55] <ScottK> OK
[11:57] <mwolson> Dabian: does the problem you reported still exist if you install this version of jde: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/7707522/jde_2.3.5.1-2_all.deb
[11:57] <RainCT> uhm.. is there a reason why OO.o Draw has no icon?
[11:57] <Dabian> mwolson: Dunno ... lemme try.
[12:03] <Dabian> mwolson: Is it supposed to fix both for emacs21 and emacs-snapshot?
[12:03] <mwolson> Dabian: i don't know
[12:03] <mwolson> Dabian: i'm just working through my "checklist"
[12:04] <mwolson> Dabian: next step, if the newer package still does not work, is to add the exact output of the error message to the original report
[12:04] <Dabian> Apparently in emacs-snapshot .. I don't even enter jde-mode when I open javafile now.
[12:04] <RainCT> should I work on a fix for bug #75478 for gutsy (see the 2nd comment from end)?
[12:04] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 75478 in openoffice.org "No shortcut to OpenOffice::Draw" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75478
[12:05] <Dabian> mwolson: Apparently in emacs-snapshot .. I don't even enter jde-mode when I open javafile now.  I will test with emacs21.
[12:06] <Dabian> mwolson: Same problem.
[12:06] <Dabian> mwolson: Apparently the "old" version was somewhat better.
[12:08] <Dabian> mwolson: There are some errors or rather warnings when I install the package though.
[12:09] <mwolson> Dabian: the warnings probably aren't important
[12:09] <Dabian> mwolson: OK
[12:09] <mwolson> Dabian: try visiting a Java file and typing M-x jde-mode RET
[12:10] <mwolson> Dabian: that should at least allow you to try to trigger the original bug
[12:10] <Dabian> mwolson: Well, jde-mode isn't bound to function.  I get "No match"
[12:10] <RainCT> Lutin: (what's about post a comment on the xmms2 bug telling what that info you await is?)
[12:11] <mwolson> Dabian: that's very strange ... have you restarted Emacs since installing the new package
[12:11] <Dabian> mwolson: Yes ... I guess that was bad?
[12:11] <mwolson> Dabian: no, that was good
[12:11] <Dabian> mwolson: OK :)
[12:12] <RainCT> ah it wasn't you
[12:12] <Dabian> mwolson: Trying reinstall.
[12:13] <RainCT> ah yes it was loo
[12:13] <RainCT> loo = lol