/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2007/06/03/#kubuntu.txt

cntbkazyua, bad bad boy whose system you borked ? university's?12:16
=== silveira [n=silveira@189.13.93.207] has joined #kubuntu
=== silveira is now known as Silveira_Neto
cntbPhinnFort> flyertanks: clickar on el blue fonto <<< haha perfect Spanglish12:17
PhinnFort:P12:17
dorin:-P12:17
BluesKaj!games12:17
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org12:17
dorin:-D12:17
=== terika [n=terika@ip68-227-105-254.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== peter_ [n=peter@port-212-202-2-116.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== dorin [n=DorinKas@89.120.146.114] has left #kubuntu []
=== LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-76-204-9-149.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== pauljw [n=paul@pool207.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== nailz [n=n0va@cpc1-cani1-0-0-cust12.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== csills [n=csills@c-71-59-52-223.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Darkkish [n=nick@c-24-19-24-147.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Zanoi [n=zanoi@zanoi.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== sean__ [n=sean@cpe-069-132-048-232.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== jrenato [n=jrenato@201-75-100-138-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #kubuntu
DaSkreechnetsplit :)12:30
kazyuacntb, no, my own12:31
kazyuacntb, do I need to do something with dpkg to repair it?12:32
cntbgood I apologize. what did google say12:32
Darkkishhow can you set the title of a Konsole window?12:32
=== ceros [n=user@c-76-111-84-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== lou247 [n=Lou247@c-67-166-80-113.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== dhq is now known as afasdas
=== dwbell [n=daryl@S01060018c0571b4e.ca.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== afasdas is now known as |lostbyte|
=== tin [n=foil@c-24-147-118-193.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
DaSkreechkazyua: What error are you getting?12:39
=== Vaklam [n=ricardo@bl5-146-55.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu
kazyuaapt-get install apt12:39
kazyuaReading package lists... Done12:39
kazyuaSegmentation fault (core dumped)12:39
=== Vaklam [n=ricardo@bl5-146-55.dsl.telepac.pt] has left #kubuntu ["all]
kazyuathat's it12:40
=== pirateking__ [n=pirateki@ppp-70-225-164-114.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== rommel [n=rommel@adsl-065-006-172-053.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
rommelHello All!!!! :)12:44
=== IRCArch [n=IRCArch@81.171.111.142] has joined #kubuntu
rommelQuestiion on VNC12:44
rommelI am able to VNC in to my Ubunto Client, Great... Now I want to VNC out to another Client12:45
rommelhow can I do that?12:45
kazyuaDaSkreech, any advice?12:45
=== [GuS] [n=gdnet@190.48.105.220] has joined #Kubuntu
DaSkreechkazyua: try an apt-get update12:46
DaSkreechrommel: Install VNC?12:46
kazyuatried12:46
kazyuait grabs the headers fine12:46
kazyuabut apt-get upgrade segfaults12:46
kazyuadpkg --configure -a runs fine12:46
TimotiSTkazyua: how many sources do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list ?12:47
=== sean__ [n=sean@cpe-069-132-048-232.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Graham_isnt_here is now known as Graham
kazyua912:47
TimotiSTtry commenting out about half of them, then try again12:48
DaSkreechkazyua: upgrade from the official repos only12:49
DaSkreechkazyua: and you can try a apt-get -f install as well12:49
=== busfahrer` [n=busfahre@p549ce258.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
TimotiSTit happened about a week ago with my old laptop (16 megs of RAM)12:49
kazyuathere's the issue12:49
TimotiSThad to comment out 2 lines of 4 to make it work again12:49
kazyuathere's another package referring to unrar, but I don't have unrar anyome12:50
kazyuaanymore*12:50
kazyuaand for some reason I can't dl it12:50
rommelDaskreech --> I want to be able to VNC out from Ubuntu to other clients (ubuntu or windows)12:50
kazyuaso it must be in a repo I cmt'd12:50
DaSkreechrommel: Do you have VNC installed in Ubuntu?12:50
kazyuabut if I uncmt the repo it'll fail again12:50
kazyuaso12:50
TimotiSTdownload the unrar package from the web and dpkg -i  ?12:50
DaSkreechrommel: and if you are using Gnome the question is better asked in #ubuntu12:51
kazyuajust about to do that12:51
DaSkreech!unrar12:51
uboturar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free12:51
DaSkreechkazyua: ^^^12:51
=== kheremet [n=kheremet@dyn63-27.dsl.spy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #kubuntu
kazyuayeah I'm dling the .deb and installing it now12:52
rommelhow do I know if I am using Gnome?12:53
=== kuti [n=kuti@83-145-176-224.cable-modem.tkk.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu
TimotiSTrommel: how does your workplace look like? do you see a button labeled K, or one looking like a footprint?12:54
=== tripppy [n=tripppy@c220-237-67-224.kelvn1.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
rommelwhen I go to the File Browser, It opens a Windows like Explorer and to the Right Upper Corner It has a foot print12:55
DaSkreechrommel: That's Gnome :)12:56
kheremethi, i do have a recording problem (no input signal) with kubuntu and audiophile 2496 pci card. what should i do?12:56
kheremetoutput is okay.12:57
rommelwhich one is better to use?12:57
DaSkreechrommel: The one you feel more comfortable with12:57
=== jklepac [n=jklepac@41.226.245.246] has joined #kubuntu
rommelhow do chang from one to another...I think I did it with out knowing!12:57
DaSkreechrommel: on the login screen you can choose12:58
DaSkreechSessions -> Gnome or Sessions -> KDE12:58
rommelOK12:58
rommelnow I remember12:58
=== hydh_ is now known as hydh
=== jorge82martinez [n=jorge82m@201.211.221.120] has joined #kubuntu
rommeland in the one that is not Genome vnc works like I would like to?12:59
DaSkreechI guess :)01:00
DaSkreechAnyway I have to run01:00
DaSkreech catch you all later01:00
rommelok lets try01:00
TimotiSTthe vnc client (xvnc4client) works both in gnome and kde. even in xfce01:00
rommelThanks01:00
jorge82martinezhola como estan todos01:00
TimotiSTkheremet: you use alsa, right?01:00
rommelTimotiST and I will find that in Applications - Internet01:01
TimotiSTif it's already installed, then you should find it01:01
TimotiSTbut i think the default ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu install won't install it01:01
rommelI install it in Add programs?01:02
rommelI will install it in add/remove programs right?01:02
TimotiSTgood question, i never install programs on a graphical interface, but that should be it01:02
=== premier_ [n=premier@129.210.145.73] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@h082218033039.host.wavenet.at] has joined #kubuntu
rommelOK let me try a couple of things01:04
rommelThanks TimotyST -->01:04
premier_hello, my compy has recently started to blank the screen and become unresponsive after a period of time.01:04
kheremettimotiST, hmmm... eh01:04
rommelhow long have you been using linux?01:04
=== gary_ [n=gary@user-5445277f.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
TimotiSTa few years01:05
=== jrattner [n=jrattner@c-71-235-59-206.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
premier_rommel: me?  about 6 months01:05
kheremet?01:05
kheremet6 hours01:05
rommelok01:06
=== |lostbyte| [n=thelostb@195.39.180.245] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"]
rommelok there is hope01:06
rommellet me try to switch01:06
rommelBRB01:06
=== sean__ [n=sean@cpe-069-132-048-232.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
TimotiSTkheremet: you say it plays audio just fine, but the recording doesn't work, right?01:07
kheremetyep01:08
TimotiSTcan you open a console?01:08
kheremeti quess01:08
kheremetok01:08
TimotiSTokay, so run alsamixer01:08
=== mahdi_ [n=mahdi@c-24-147-12-73.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
kheremetTimotiST, hmm, could you explain, how?01:09
TimotiSTyou use KDE, right?01:10
kheremetYes, what should  I write?01:10
TimotiSTyou have a console window open (either konsole, xterm or anything)?01:11
kheremetkonsol is open01:11
TimotiSTthen type 'alsamixer<enter>'01:11
kheremethah, abrakadabra01:12
=== thomax__ [n=thomas@217-148-245-253.happymany.net] has joined #kubuntu
TimotiSTthat should giwe you a nice view01:12
TimotiSTyou can play around with the sound level of the line input and stuff01:12
TimotiSTsee if it's on mute or not01:13
TimotiSTyou can exit with ESC01:14
=== bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #kubuntu
kheremetall mic and input lines are off, how to change em01:15
=== phpcode [n=steffen@ti531210a080-1473.bb.online.no] has joined #kubuntu
=== dr_willis [n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu
TimotiSTuse the 'M' button to change the mute status01:16
kheremetok, i'll try again to record something01:16
TimotiSTand the cursor keys to change the levels01:16
kheremetthanks01:16
=== jason_ [n=jason@c-68-56-151-53.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== defcon [n=defcon@VDSL-130-13-152-155.PHNX.QWEST.NET] has joined #kubuntu
=== sailor_moon [n=ubuntu@151.23.98.219] has joined #kubuntu
=== pauljw [n=paul@pool207.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Ace2016 [n=ace@80-47-96-203.lond-hex.dynamic.dial.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== POKE [n=Freefrag@87.226.15.94] has joined #kubuntu
=== Noldoaran is now known as Noldoaran_away
=== jrick [n=joshua@c-67-177-142-45.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
phpcodei cant copy files to one of my hdd (s-ata), i have tryed to do that as root. help?01:20
jrickcould someone please tell me what packages I need to have installed to build a KDE application (besides build-essential)01:20
=== michael__ [n=michael@pool-71-120-235-151.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisphpcode,  what filesystem is the hdd's  in question?01:20
=== aroo [n=justin@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== sailor_moon [n=ubuntu@151.23.98.219] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
phpcodedr_willis: ntfs.01:21
Darkkishhow do i get my audio back?01:21
Darkkishafter another program stole it01:21
Darkkishand then i closed that program01:21
=== jander99 [n=jeff@c-24-98-179-82.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu []
=== michael__ [n=michael@pool-71-120-235-151.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_williswriting to ntfs needs to be enabled.01:22
dr_willis!ntfs01:22
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse01:22
dr_willis!ntfs-3g01:22
ubotuntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions01:22
dr_willisThers also a tool i think that enabled it.01:23
=== imagine [n=imagine@xplr-ts-t11-208-114-165-46.barrettxplore.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== mtn_man [i=Mtnman@adsl-70-142-63-136.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== spruleme [n=spruleme@c-76-101-106-211.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== cedross [n=cedross@d141-219-179.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== tikal26 [n=tikal26@pool-71-125-142-81.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== mtn_man [i=Mtnman@adsl-70-142-63-136.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
phpcodedr_willis: ok. ill read and try that. and come back if it didnt help. :-)01:25
=== blizzzek_lernt is now known as blizzzek
Darkkishhow do i restart sound?01:26
Darkkishoh kill artsd01:27
=== hivemind [n=kasdaye@S010600179a9f2971.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== POKE [n=Freefrag@87.226.15.94] has joined #kubuntu
=== LetoAtreides [n=ubuntu@12.206.220.110] has joined #kubuntu
=== rommel [n=rommel@adsl-065-006-172-053.sip.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== xeon [n=xeon@ipa116.30.91.tellas.gr] has joined #kubuntu
xeonhello01:29
LetoAtreidesOk the bug I reported got rejected, yet it prevents me from using Kubuntu, and forces me to Recommend my end users NOT use it either (because they cant), but I levu Kubuntu....why oh why...01:30
LetoAtreideslove*01:30
rommelTimotiST... It worked even though I think I am still using Gnome01:30
xeoni need a VM with windows. I have ubuntu 6.06 lts installed. can anyone help me pls?01:30
dr_willisLetoAtreides,  a bug got rejected?01:30
rommelTimotiST ... How did you say that I can Change it?01:30
dr_willisxeon,  i use vmware-server all the time.01:31
xeondr_willis, where can i find it pls?01:31
TimotiSTrommel: change KDE/Gnome? most likely at the login screen. if they are both installed, of course01:31
dr_willis!vmware01:31
ubotuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers01:31
LetoAtreidesdr_willis: a bug that will not allow my app to run (when it runs on 10-20 other distros I tried, including the last Kubuntu version) and prevents me from compiling my app as well01:31
dr_willisxeon,  the vmware homepage. :)01:31
rommelok01:32
dr_willisLetoAtreides,  and they consider it a bug in your program?01:32
LetoAtreidesdr_willis: no T posted a hello world app that wouldnt even compile01:33
LetoAtreidesI*01:33
xeonubotu, dr_willis, thanks a lot!01:33
LetoAtreideshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/11833801:33
=== dr_willis thinks hes only getting part of the problem.
DarkkishI just thought of a really cool beryl feature01:34
LetoAtreidesdr_willis: the bug in my app happens when you move the window, it crashes X, even on the LiveCD!01:35
LetoAtreidesYet has NO ISSUE with any onther distro (I installed a couple more last night, and its ONLY Kubuntu01:36
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@59.154.24.148] has joined #kubuntu
=== lucky_lucas [n=lucas@116.96.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu
=== marvinalone [n=marvin@pool-72-86-16-106.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== AnyKey [n=churches@84-16-174-206.gci.net] has joined #kubuntu
xeondr_willis, i 've downloaded the machine, i unziped it and double clicked on My_Virtual_Machine.vmx, but it opens a text full of code01:39
=== |orac7000| [n=vk7fcbh@CPE-124-177-24-154.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu
AnyKeywhat is a name of a good samba compatable backup program ?01:40
=== Extrapan [i=marcin@pc178-8.piast.ds.polsl.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== tomas_ [n=tomas@65.23.230.157] has joined #kubuntu
=== secleinteer [n=scl@adsl-70-237-207-203.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
phpcodedr_willis: Thanks. it fixed the problem :-D01:42
=== gabrius [n=gabrius@189.4.158.144] has joined #kubuntu
xeondr_willis, i 've downloaded the machine, i unziped it and double clicked on My_Virtual_Machine.vmx, but it opens a text full of code01:43
xeonwhat i have to do?01:44
Darkkishwhy is everything in the repository out of date?01:45
DarkkishWine, Tunderbird01:46
DarkkishFirefox01:46
=== dsmith_ [n=dsmith@c-68-33-164-177.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
Darkkishmaybe not firefox01:46
Darkkishbut definately wine and thunderbirdf01:46
=== djdarkman_ [n=djdarkma@fl-86-120-23-161.fiberlink.mures.rdsnet.ro] has joined #kubuntu
kheremetand ardour01:46
AnyKey/shrug01:46
=== jrick [n=joshua@c-67-177-142-45.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== AnyKey [n=churches@84-16-174-206.gci.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
jrickcould someone please tell me what the package is called that contains all of the KDE and Qt development programs?  I have a program that i need to compile, but i need the qt development applications to do so.01:49
=== pauljw [n=paul@pool207.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Smooph [n=Smooph@p54a75376.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
=== xGrantx [n=grant@70-100-160-217.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu
TimotiSTDarkkish: which release?01:51
Darkkish7.0401:51
jricknvm, i think i found it.  The package is kde-devel.01:52
kheremetgood night.01:52
=== n8k99 [n=n8k99@dsl254-078-190.nyc1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #kubuntu
TimotiSTwell, the packages were frozen a few months ago for release, so they aren't on the bleeding edge for sure01:53
godvirushow do i install g++ 4.2?01:53
=== terika [n=terika@ip68-227-105-254.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
godvirusi thought adept_installer would let me manage repositories01:54
godvirusbut i dont see the option anymore01:54
DarkkishTimotiST: frozen?01:54
=== intelikey [n=UN-root@dialup-4.89.252.111.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu
Darkkishgodvirus: me too, it's gone.01:54
jrickgodvirus: do you have the repository file that you need to add?01:55
=== gne [n=gne@151.23.98.219] has joined #kubuntu
=== Fenix [n=oem@host114.201-252-13.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu
godvirusdarkkish: i think the options are still in adept manager01:55
Darkkishbeing able to manage repositories was one of my favorite things about adept01:55
Darkkishnot really01:55
Darkkishit doesn't let you manage all of them it only lets you add new ones01:55
jrickif you do, and adept won't you let you edit it, try adding it to /etc/apt/sources.list01:55
TimotiSTonce they get ready to release the new release, they stay with the version up to date. that means sometime around 2007.03 in case of feisty01:55
godvirushey its still there01:56
BluesKajthat's prolly bleeding edge godvirus ...prolly need to DL it from the dev site01:56
TimotiSTand those packages are now 2 (maybe 3) months old for sure01:56
godvirusrepo management is still in System->Adept Manager01:56
=== dsmith__ [n=dsmith@c-68-33-164-177.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKaji just manage the sources.list ...easiest IMO01:56
=== gary_ [n=gary@user-5445277f.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
jrickBluesKaj: not for new users01:57
=== ericj2190_ is now known as ericj2190
BluesKajjrick:  dunno trying to manage repos in adept is a PITA01:57
Darkkishbut it's 2007.0501:57
jrickPITA?01:58
jrickoh01:58
jricknvm01:58
jricki get it01:58
BluesKajpain in a**01:58
TimotiSTthat's the way ubuntu is. release every 6 months, but do a stable release01:58
=== khaije1 [n=khaije1@person1.constellation.com] has joined #kubuntu
TimotiSTgentoo's portage follows the versions almost up-to-date, just sometimes brakes01:59
TimotiSTbreaks...01:59
DarkkishMan I just want a new, running version of Tunderbird and the latest version of Wine02:00
=== martha [n=martha@ip-55.net-81-220-75.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #kubuntu
khaije1i'm looking for a sff box that i can use as a SAN NAS using ubuntu, anyone aware of a company selling something like that02:01
khaije1?02:01
TimotiSTwell, you can always go with a testing release, those are brand new, just not always stable02:01
=== mauri [n=mauri@d83-190-10-72.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu
khaije1i need it somewhat quick so I'm looking to drop about 600$ for a box02:02
BluesKajerr SAN NAS ?02:02
=== epimeth [n=leroy@85.64.13.54.dynamic.barak-online.net] has joined #kubuntu
khaije1BluesKaj: ya SAN/NAS, I would build the services, i just need a nice sff box with slots for HDD's and maybe hw raid02:04
=== itay [n=itay@89-138-165-236.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #kubuntu
=== busfahrer` is now known as busfahrer
BluesKajhave no idea what that is SAN NAS ?02:04
TimotiSTNAS is pretty easy, either with samba or ftp, SAN can be tricky, especially with iSCSI02:05
epimethahoy lurkers!02:05
=== _4str1 [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-26-247.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKaji have a small windows network setup, use samba smb4k ...works fine02:06
epimethoooo... firefox update02:06
epimethsmb4k?  whassat?02:07
=== BluesKaj experiments with opera
BluesKaja samba browser02:07
=== Komsip [n=komsip@h168n1fls302o1049.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu
khaije1TimotiST: I know, i was wondering if anyone could recommend any linux friendly hw vendors for this type of thing, just want it small, quiet, headless, and capable of running a server install of ubuntu02:07
epimethmeh... tried opera a few years back... just before they started with the advertisements on their free version... didn't like it much02:07
epimethkhaije1: IBM02:08
epimeththeir servers are very ubuntu friendlyu02:08
jrickopera 9 is pretty nice, but i'm a konq guy myself (i like the kde intregration)02:08
epimethat least in my experience02:08
=== YaroMan [n=YaroMan@66.155.250.130] has joined #kubuntu
Komsipopera is very sweet for one thing, renders pages real fast02:08
khaije1epimeth: any model names? this is for a dude (me) not an enterprise so sub 600$ is my range02:08
Komsipbut that's pretty much all02:08
BluesKajno ads , epimeth ...built in email and irc and torrent ...the torrent addon sucks but the rest of it is quite nice .02:08
jrickkhtml is fast also (faster then gecko)02:09
=== ebbu [n=ebbu@36-189.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #kubuntu
epimethooh... no, I was talking about their small business servers, seriously doubt you'll find it for sub 600$02:09
jrickagreed on the opera torrent suckieness02:09
epimethbut you might find something good refurbished... check their site02:09
epimeththey've been linux friendly for a while now, so you shouldn't gave a problem02:10
Komsipis there any improvement in the rendering of pages in the next konq, it's my main browser?02:10
epimeths/gave/have02:10
khaije1k, thanks epimeth02:10
dr_willisi got a NDAS hard drive enclosure just the other day :)02:10
=== crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #kubuntu
Komsipi mean in kde 402:10
khaije1dr_willis: whas ndas?02:11
epimethKomsip: dunno... I'm a dolphin/firefox kinda guy02:11
Komsipdolphin?02:11
cntbitay02:11
epimethKomsip: I hope they do add a lot of w3 standards support... they are very lacking at the moment02:11
dr_williskhaije1,  network direct attached storage. its a HD enclosure with a network Plug. :)02:11
jrickdolphin is the new default filemanager in kde402:11
cntbitay come to ubuntu-il as well02:11
epimethKomsip: yup... the 'real' kde file manager... konq is getting thrown out for kde4 in favor of dolphin02:12
=== family___ [n=family@c-71-57-73-40.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
khaije1dr_willis: oh right, do you prefere that to a sff headless NAS?02:12
epimethinstall it and check it out... I really like it and I understand its going through a major overhaul for kde402:12
BluesKajis dolphin available for feisty?02:12
jrickepimeth: are you running the kde 3.5.x version of dolphin or the kde4 build?02:12
epimethyup02:12
=== chenox [n=chenox@85.136.224.4] has joined #kubuntu
epimeth3.502:12
BluesKajcool02:12
epimethloving it02:12
khaije1khtml is being re-merged with the safari branches changes02:12
dr_williskhaije1,  it was rather trivial to get going. supposed to be faster.. I goofed today. I bought a new 500gb hd for it.. and frogot it was IDE, not sata. :) guess the sata drive goes in my other fileserver02:13
jrickdoes anyone know how to build the dolphin for kde4?02:13
jricki want to run it02:13
tinis konq getting "thrown out", or just moved aside as the default directory viewer?02:13
epimethjrick: I'm sure theres a howto... check out the site02:13
epimethkonq is being phased out I think...02:13
jrickepimeth: no it is staying for web browsing02:13
jrickthat is it's primary focus on kde4 onwards02:14
epimethit'll still be the default web browser, but everything else seems to be moving to dolphin02:14
epimethsmb, ftp, nfs02:14
tinand it's still good for media browsing with previews and metedata displays02:14
intelikeydr_willis sounds like you'll have to add a new mb so you can use the new drive  :)02:14
epimethmy only problem with it atm is context menus02:14
Darkkishhmm02:14
Darkkishodd wine.02:14
=== jack_wyt [n=jack@124.64.104.160] has joined #kubuntu
Darkkishhhm02:15
=== jordan [n=jordan@amh-bb-dynamic-pppoe7-33.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== gne is now known as sailor_moon
Komsipwhy would dolphin be default? I never heard of it until 5 mins ago, and i googled it, says it's gtk based??02:15
epimetheg, ark isn't integrated02:15
=== jordan is now known as Billiard
=== pawitp [n=pawitp@ppp-58.9.136.64.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #kubuntu
epimethits gtk based?  I didn't know that... all I know is that I like it and that I've heard from a number of sources that it's gonna be the file browser02:15
jrickKomsip: um no02:15
khaije1all this dolphin talk sounds ridiculous02:16
jrickfor all you people who want to know about konqueror and dolphin: http://dot.kde.org/1172721427/02:16
=== khaije1 aggrees w/ Komsip
intelikeydr_willis; and new cpu/s so you can use the new mb,  and new ram....     just tryin' to help...   :)02:16
epimethhttp://www.osnews.com/story.php/17314/Dolphin-To-Become-Default-File-Manager-in-KDE-4/02:17
=== gemidjy [n=gemidjy@62.162.67.50] has joined #kubuntu
=== Billiard is now known as jordan
=== jordan is now known as Billiard
intelikey!info dolphin02:18
ubotudolphin: File manager for KDE focusing on usability. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.1-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1251 kB, installed size 2252 kB02:18
=== Billiard is now known as jordan
=== NetersLandreau_ [n=niles@52.sub-70-222-239.myvzw.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== jordan is now known as Billiard
jrickintelikey: that's for kde3, right?02:18
=== Raumkraut [n=Raumkrau@cust227-dsl44.idnet.net] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyi would think so.02:18
jrickif it was for kde4, that would be so sweet. i wouldn't have to mess with cmake.02:19
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@84.123.181.97.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu
epimethjrick: thats what happens when you use alpha distributions :-p02:20
=== killer_ [n=killer@c-68-58-45-176.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
khaije1dr_willis: what make ndas did you get?02:20
intelikeyor alpha packages....02:20
epimethmeh... semantics....02:20
intelikeypedantics02:21
intelikey:)02:21
epimethwhy is it that when I'm at work there's a million people asking for help, but now that I have time (and its afternoon in the states) nobody is yelling "help meeee!!!!"?02:22
=== killer_ [n=killer@c-68-58-45-176.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
intelikeyhmmm....02:22
intelikeywhy would debian set the system requirements for etch at 64m ram with "no desktop" (i assume they mean no GUI)   and recommend  256 megabytes ram  ?     surely 64m is not minimum for running it.      installer needs that maybe?02:25
MinatakuFunny02:25
MinatakuI run Debian w/ desktop (jwm) on a machine with 80MB RAM02:25
BluesKajepimeth: that's cuz its tvtime in america02:25
MinatakuBTW: Recommendation != Absolute minimum02:26
MinatakuYeah, 8PM on east coast02:26
intelikeyminimum on their page says       With Desktop  64 megabytes   512 megabytes      5 gigabyte02:26
Minataku7, 6, 5, 4 and 3 going westward02:26
epimethjust cuz you can, doesn't mean you should.... I was running etch with 64 mb ram with kde and was cursing quite profusely02:26
Minatakuintelikey: Minimum system requirements != Recommended system requirements02:26
intelikeythe 512 is reccomneded.   as is the   256 on the first post.02:26
tinand then there are those sweet timezones in the US that don't follow daylight savings and the other ones on the half hours02:27
Minatakuepimeth: Well duh, you were using KDE02:27
MinatakuDon't use something so stupid02:27
intelikeyMinataku would you like a url ?02:27
Minatakutin: No such02:27
MinatakuThere are some states/cities that don't honor DST02:27
=== hb [n=hb@host-69-144-22-61.but-mt.client.bresnan.net] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuThere are NO :30 zones in the USA02:27
epimethlol02:27
=== billy [n=billy@24-205-81-199.dhcp.psdn.ca.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== michael__ [n=michael@pool-71-120-235-151.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
epimethMinataku: but I love KDE :-02:28
epimeth:-(02:28
Minatakuepimeth: You'll never get KDE working comfortably in less than 512MB02:28
MinatakuAnd that was 4 years ago02:28
epimethI used to... grumble... something about advanced technology... grumble02:28
=== sailor_moon [n=gne@151.23.98.219] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== michael__ [n=michael@pool-71-120-235-151.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyMinataku http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en#id2532353 <<< so am i reading that incorrectly ?    are they not saying it can't work with less than 64m ram    with or without a gui ?02:29
=== youssef [n=youssef@adsl196-67-31-217-196.adsl196-9.iam.net.ma] has joined #kubuntu
michael__omg konversation is sooo screwed over02:30
epimethintelikey: "The actual minimum memory requirements are a lot less then the numbers listed in this table"02:30
LeeJunFanintelikey: it says right below the table that you can do less than 20M02:30
Minatakuintelikey: You're reading it incorrectly02:30
MinatakuLeeJunFan: 48MB for i38602:31
Minataku20MB only on IBM S39002:31
LeeJunFanyeah.02:31
epimethlike I said... I'm running etch with 64mb ram... forget X, just sshing takes a few seconds to connect02:31
=== poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-70-78.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
michael__okay , when konversation starts, you know how it has that auto join box02:32
michael__that shows servers/channels02:32
michael__well the buttons on that are not there02:32
michael__so i cant close it02:32
michael__and i tried removing it and reinstalling and dpkg-configure, and it still shows my autojoin channels02:32
Minatakumichael__: What resolution are you running in?02:32
michael__the same as I was before02:32
michael__when it worked fine02:32
michael__i just rebootd and some odd things happeend02:33
michael__that, and my knetworkmanager didnt show up02:33
michael__but i was able to do iwconfig eth1 essid linksys02:33
Billiardhey ive been using devede to convert my vids to dvd's, but it takes REALLY long. is that the best/fastest program for makin dvd's?02:33
LeeJunFancrap, I've got dapper running on 64M 486 WRAP boards as access points, of course I installed the image with debootstrap02:33
intelikeywell dapper running here....   Mem usage: 14/249 MB (5%)02:34
intelikeyso i'm assuming the installer is the reason for high minimums.02:35
LeeJunFanI'd assume the same.02:35
LeeJunFansince it would be using ramdisks during setup, etc.02:36
=== jrattner [n=jrattner@c-71-235-59-206.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== _dumbkiwi_ [n=kde-deve@125-238-37-144.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyyeah but 32m should be do_able   run the system in 16 have 16 for the installer...   text based installers "can" be tight shoed02:38
=== intelikey notices the minimalest thinking behind his posts... oh well.
Minatakuintelikey: Eh02:39
=== sleepzzz [n=charles@66-112-127-36.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuIt COULD be02:39
TimotiSTi ran etch on a p1-100 16ram box... :)02:39
MinatakuBut for RAM-heavy operations like unpacking junk and whatnot02:39
intelikeyi just hate bloat.     and what is the purpose of making a chart that "lies" to people anyway ?02:40
MinatakuPlus the fact that the kernel, kernel modules, and other stuff has to fit too02:40
Minataku2.6 series kernels are fairly large02:40
MinatakuAnd installer kernels are stupid large02:40
intelikeyyeah they are bloated.02:41
MinatakuNot bloated02:41
MinatakuThe kernel is hardly bloated02:41
MinatakuIt's just got a lot that it supports and can do02:41
MinatakuAs for installer kernels, they pretty much have to support EVERYTHING02:41
dwbellspeaking of large kernels, has anyone here compiled their own for kubuntu?02:42
intelikeyswelled up till the skin is about to bust, bloated.   compair knoppix and see.02:42
intelikeydwbell yes02:42
aroodwbell, yea02:42
TimotiSTmost installer kernels have stuff in modules -> less memory use02:42
MinatakuOnly for Gentoo02:42
intelikeydwbell 2.6 and  2.402:42
MinatakuTimotiST: Right02:42
MinatakuBut the modules still have to be loaded02:43
dwbellwhat advantages? speed increase / smaller footprint?02:43
Minatakudwbell: Of course02:43
TimotiSTbut just what you need02:43
MinatakuYou tighten things up at the core at you increase the core performace02:43
[4K^Javax] nn02:43
=== Ace2016 [n=ace@80-47-96-203.lond-hex.dynamic.dial.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuPlus you don't have to probe EVERY POSSIBLE DEVICE on each boot02:44
[4K^Javax] fucking amsging my queries02:44
MinatakuSince you can just compile in what you need02:44
Minataku!language02:44
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.02:44
dwbellI have a new machine coming, and it would be nice to set up right from the start02:44
Minatakudwbell: Use Gentoo instead then02:44
MinatakuNo question02:44
MinatakuIt's a bit more difficult, but everything is compiled to precisely your specifications02:45
dwbellMinataku: Ah but I have a job and a family, I'd love to try gentoo but don't have the time!02:45
MinatakuYou don't like Y? Tell Portage and it doesn't use Y.02:45
Minatakudwbell: It doesn't take long to set up at all02:45
MinatakuMaybe an hour for the initial setup02:45
=== intelikey would hardly call 1.4m+ small for a bare kernel that doesn't even support ext2 nor ide i think that there is some waste going on there in the frame buffering department...
MinatakuAfter that you set the ball rolling and you can knock off02:46
MinatakuAfter THAT, you can use while compiling02:46
MinatakuIn fact, having little time makes it BETTER to use, since you can have it working away while you're not02:46
Ace2016Minataku: thats what i thought, but say you need a particular app asap then you have to wait for it to compiled, and that sucked, and there may be deps too02:47
MinatakuAce2016: Less deps, though02:48
MinatakuAs for that, you CAN get binary packages02:48
Ace2016really?02:48
MinatakuI dunno where from02:48
Ace2016never knew you could get binary stuff02:48
MinatakuBut yeah, I believe there ARE sources for binary packageds02:48
MinatakuPortage is very versatile02:48
intelikeywhy not build dpkg and apt in portage and use .deb's ?02:48
dr_willisi recall seeing  gentoo binary packages aswell02:48
dr_willisbut then the next update seems to recompule 1/2 the system :)02:48
=== knapp [n=knapp@67.58.85.56] has joined #kubuntu
Minatakuintelikey: Because that's farking retarded02:49
Minatakudr_willis: Heh, I'd only use them in Ace2016's case02:49
=== NetersLandreau_ is now known as NetersLandreau
=== lucky_lucas [n=lucas@116.96.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyMinataku speeded up is slowed down ???02:49
MinatakuThen as soon as I had the bin package, start the compile02:49
Minatakuintelikey: ?????02:49
Minatakudr_willis: Sorry I haven't been around02:49
dr_willisneither have i02:50
dr_willisbeen doing all this other stuff.02:50
dwbellMinataku: I'll at least look into gentoo, I've got a couple weeks till the parts are all here02:50
dr_willis&@&$@!0 wife is driving me crazy02:50
knappNo sound on reboot. What is the first course of action?02:50
MinatakuHeehee02:50
Minatakudwbell: Coo02:50
Minatakudr_willis: Heh02:50
=== sean__ [n=sean@cpe-069-132-048-232.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
Minatakuknapp: Cry and swear02:50
dr_willisI need to find a site of "songs" that are whistling. for her *#&*@& birds to listen to. She lost her downloads somewhere.02:50
dr_willis:)02:51
Minatakudr_willis: ...02:51
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@41.208.152.188] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisShe alwahs has to have somthing to keep her busy it seems. and it always makes more work for me02:51
intelikeyMinataku the question was about needing a package "right now!"   and one could build dpkg and apt in advance, anticipating such a thing.  then if it happened use a .deb and go...     that's retarded (slowed down) in what way ?02:51
Minatakuintelikey: Mixing package managers is incredibly stupid02:51
MinatakuSame like mixing packages from incompatible repositories/distributions02:52
dwbellMinataku: where would you recommend someone new start with gentoo ie. stageX install?02:52
knappminataku, and after that?02:52
dr_willisI find gentoo hard to reccomend for someone 'new' at all.02:52
Minatakudwbell: Stage 3 is all that's supported by the handbook now02:52
Ace2016intelikey: well i guess one could have a debian sid chroot somewhere and use that for stuff02:52
dwbelldr_willis: not new to linux, just gentoo02:52
Minatakudwbell: So use that then just let it recompile everything02:52
intelikeydr_willis i find it hard to reccomend02:52
dr_willisI dident ever see much point in stage 1 or 2 at all..02:53
Soththat's because there wasn't one heh02:53
MinatakuYeah there was02:53
MinatakuStage 2 not so much02:53
MinatakuStage 3 pisses me off because it loads you up with precompiled cruft02:53
MinatakuStage 1 was great because it was absolutely minimal02:54
MinatakuSo it was a nice, small, fast download and you didn't have a buttload of crap02:54
intelikey"absolutely minimal"   hmmmm02:54
dr_willisand what did you really gain?02:54
dr_willisdownload time vs compile time?02:54
Sothstarting at stage 1 built the exact same thing that's in a stage 3 tarball...02:54
Minatakudr_willis: Download time02:54
MinatakuI recompiled everything from Stage 3 anyway02:55
dr_willisfrom what i recall.. seemed like everything got recompiled once a month anyway02:55
MinatakuBecause I didn't want packages built with -O0 for a 38602:55
=== HymnToLife [n=fkraiem@LNeuilly-152-23-88-99.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
Minatakudr_willis: I haven't done a world update in... a year now, I think02:55
MinatakuYou don't HAVE to update everything monthly or anything02:56
intelikeyyou don't have to update ubuntu either....02:56
Ace2016Minataku: yes you do, what about security02:56
knappIs there a command to restart sound w/o rebooting?02:56
MinatakuAce2016: Update security packages alone02:56
=== Biovore [n=biovore@c-69-143-224-204.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
Ace2016knapp: whats wrong with sound?02:56
=== _soo [n=dac@tx-76-6-81-107.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyknapp in the menu sound system > restart sound server02:57
MinatakuOr if there are absolutely critical issues, update those apps individually02:57
knappI rebooted and now I have no sound. Mute isn't on, volume is max02:57
Minatakuknapp: Check the mixer settings02:57
MinatakuThe card may be muted02:57
Ace2016knapp: tried restarting again? did you update any packages?02:57
MinatakuI know mine is always like that on reboot02:57
knappI did reboot again02:58
MinatakuI have to start nmixer (you'll probably have alsamixer) and turn the card volume up02:58
knappI might have upgraded some packages. I did install rrooted.02:58
youssefHi, after downloading updates for feisty I have troubles running Adept manager, it says that another process is using the packaging system db, even if there isn't any !!02:58
knappI ran alsamixer and it looks fine02:58
MinatakuCheck the cables02:58
knappdone02:59
intelikey!adeptcrashfix | youssef02:59
ubotuyoussef: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a 02:59
knappThe reason I had to reboot is the computer froze when I tried to run rrooted.02:59
Ace2016intelikey: wouldn't rebooting fix the lockup?02:59
=== jrattner [n=jrattner@c-71-235-59-206.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyAce2016 why should it ?    reboot is not the fix all in linux.   that's M$ mentality03:00
Ace2016intelikey: well won't it stop whatever app is locking the system?03:00
MinatakuAdept uses a lockfile03:01
intelikeyAce2016 it's probably not an app.03:01
MinatakuUnless Kubuntu cleans them all out at boot03:01
MinatakuRebooting will NEVER fix it03:01
MinatakuThe lockfile is there in case the program crashes03:01
intelikeyAce2016 the fuser section was just incase there actually is a process running.03:01
MinatakuIn which case it can't be started again without corrective maintenance03:02
Ace2016intelikey: oh ok, i was wondering what would happen if both processes tried to mess with dpkg03:02
MinatakuIt's like a flag that says "Something broke last time" while also acting as a convienent way of letting any other programs know that it's running03:02
MinatakuIncluding other attempted instances of itself03:02
intelikey<Minataku> The lockfile is there in case the program crashes <<< well to some minor degree i suppose.  but more for preventing two instances of the app running at one time.03:03
Minatakuintelikey: Right, but I was talking about why it will still be there after a crash or reboot03:03
xGrantxuh03:03
MinatakuTrue, that is the secondary purpose, the primary being to prevent two instances at one time03:03
xGrantxhow am I supposed to mount an SFS format hard drive?03:03
MinatakuSFS?03:03
dr_willissfs??03:03
dr_willisSfs!??03:04
dr_willis:)03:04
intelikeybrb.03:04
xGrantxthat's what it says03:04
xGrantxreally03:04
MinatakuxGrantx: Prove it03:04
dr_willisand where did this come from?03:04
dr_willisfdisk -l gives what about the drive?03:04
xGrantxWindows formatted it03:04
Billiardhey my friend wants to use kubuntu but he has dial up, would it be pretty hard to setup the dialup modem?03:04
xGrantxwith it's drive manager or something03:04
dr_willisvista?03:04
xGrantxno XP03:04
MinatakuWindows can barely format NTFS03:04
=== michael__ is now known as Jack3
Minataku:P03:04
xGrantxI know...03:04
dr_willisCant recall ever hearing of SFS partitions befor03:04
MinatakuThere's no such thing03:05
xGrantxyea it doesn't show up on google03:05
dr_willisBilliard,  if the modem can work in Linux. it dhsouldent be too hard03:05
xGrantxbut under system it says "SFS"03:05
MinatakuxGrantx: You either have an error or you screwed something up03:05
=== sidyr [n=sidyr@189.4.23.244] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisactually - i seem tor ecall that NTFS comehow got showned as sfs befor03:05
dr_willistry 'fdisk -l'03:05
MinatakuxGrantx: Type "sudo file -zrks /dev/<name of filesystem device>"03:05
=== andrea [n=andrea@pool-70-105-209-92.scr.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuLike if it's Parition 1 on IDE channel 0, Secondary; /dev/hdb103:06
xGrantxit's a SATA HD03:06
MinatakuThen it'll be /dev/sdxn03:06
xGrantxyea it's sda03:06
MinatakuWhere x is the letter of the drive and n the partition number03:06
MinatakuThen paste it here if it's less than 2 lines03:07
=== pawittp [n=pawitp@ppp-58.9.141.9.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #kubuntu
xGrantx   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System03:07
xGrantx/dev/sda1               1      620181   312571192+  42  SFS03:07
xGrantxugh03:07
MinatakuxGrantx: Type "sudo file -zrks /dev/sda1"03:08
xGrantxwhat does that do?03:08
=== Mountainman [i=Mtnman@adsl-70-142-63-136.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuIt should tell us what it really is03:08
xGrantxoh ok03:08
xGrantxbecause I can't format it atm03:08
xGrantxit has data on it03:08
intelikeyback03:08
Minatakufile(1) can be used either on regular files or block devices to attempt to determine what it is03:09
dr_willis42 SFS The Id is the key: partition type 42 indicates that your Windows partition is a dynamic disk. 42 used to be the identifier for the (now obsolete?) Secure FileSytem, which is why fdisk is identifying the partition as SFS. You will need to convert the Dynamic disk into a Basic disk before any bootloader will recognize it. Instructions on how to do so are here (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q309044).03:09
Minatakudr_willis: Where you find that?03:09
xGrantxyea really...03:09
xGrantxit really is NTFS03:09
dr_willisgoogle. :) heh03:10
dr_willishttp://justlinux.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-89656.html03:10
MinatakuxGrantx: Heehee03:10
Minatakudr_willis: Ah.03:10
dr_willisit is ntfs. :)03:10
MinatakuxGrantx: Can you see what's on there?03:10
xGrantxwell ntfs-3g can't mount it03:10
xGrantxin windows I can03:10
MinatakuFigures03:10
MinatakuxGrantx: Get in Windows, copy off what you need03:10
=== BenPA [n=b727plan@pool-151-201-236-241.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuAnd trash that $h!t03:10
xGrantxlol03:10
MinatakuStupid proprietary Microsoft bullfart03:11
MinatakuLoad of farking shot is all it is03:11
xGrantxI'd like to format it to FAT32 but silly MS wouldn't let me03:11
BenPAhi all ... I got an error 17 on my dual windows / ubuntu box ... I have a live ubuntu up running ... how do I fix it03:11
MinatakuDamn that no swearing rule, too03:11
MinatakuBenPA: I assume you mean GRUB Error 1703:11
BenPAyes03:11
MinatakuBenPA: You know, Google typically will help in these situations03:12
intelikeyside note on the preceeding.   partition type has no actual barring on the file system type.   but will affect some boot loaders as well as some os mounting of the fs.03:12
=== nuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
xGrantxhow do I format an HD into FAT32 on linux?03:12
dr_willismkfs.vfat03:12
dr_willisi think03:12
Minatakuintelikey: Except this SFS crap is probably an encrypted volume in a proprietary setup03:12
BenPA I got an error grub 17 on my dual windows / ubuntu box ... I have a live ubuntu up running ... how do I attempt to fix it .. I tried grub-install  .. I have no /bot/grub/menu.lst .. I entered fdisk -| got a prompt but not sure what to do03:12
MinatakuI think mkdosfs does it too03:12
dr_willisI was thinkign sfs was just MS misstagging a filesystem when it made it03:12
xGrantxdr_willis: yea I could see Windows doing that03:13
MinatakuBenPA: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1669.html03:13
MinatakuNo offense, but please use Google whenever you can03:13
intelikeyMinataku yes probably   but could have been over writen,  one can not tell by simply looking at the partition table.     that's all i was saying.03:13
xGrantxok, thanks for the help03:14
xGrantxgotta reboot03:14
MinatakuxGrantx: nop03:14
Minataku*np03:14
BenPAminataku I already tried and read that03:15
=== intelikey [n=UN-root@dialup-4.227.14.97.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyoooops.   isp reset.03:15
MinatakuBenPA: Sorry then03:16
BenPAI did a fixmbr with a windoze disc and it now boots but I cannot get to my kubuntu partition03:16
MinatakuTry this one, perhaps03:16
Minatakuhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1669.html03:16
intelikey!grub | BenPA03:16
ubotuBenPA: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:16
MinatakuBenPA: fixmbr? You've probably trashed GRUB03:16
=== fred_buskaglia [n=john@85-18-14-22.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== leileilol [n=Hsi@c-75-68-37-174.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== sakabatou_ [n=sakabato@sb-217-129-120-240.netvisao.pt] has joined #kubuntu
dr_williswell overwrote grub. :)03:18
intelikeysymantic pedantic dislexic romantic....03:19
intelikeywhat ever.03:19
=== Noldoaran_away is now known as Noldoaran
=== sakabatou_ is now known as sakabatou
=== v0taguz [n=votaguz@190.65.10.236] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@84.123.181.97.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== MistaED [n=mistaed@87.212.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@209-161-220-90.dsl.look.ca] has joined #kubuntu
=== jtt [n=jtholmes@adsl-065-006-144-253.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== joe_ [n=joe@c-71-204-234-210.hsd1.sc.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== emilio [n=emilio@host237.190-31-230.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu
=== mister_roboto [n=jrk@24-136-22-252.hnc-bsr1.chi-hnc.il.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== joe_ is now known as eX|Joe
=== eX|Joe [n=joe@c-71-204-234-210.hsd1.sc.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
emilioIn the instalation, the others options of partitioning should appear in gray... I pressed Use the whole disk hda but it didn't change to that option and did a resize of the sda03:28
khaije1anyone here have any experience w/ the kernel virtualization machine, or xen ?03:29
=== BigMac [n=mike@c-71-234-95-131.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
BigMacANyone know of a way to make catapult open in another browser besides Konqueror?03:31
Billiarddid u set the default browser03:32
=== aroo [n=justin@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu []
BigMacyes03:34
BigMackatapult03:34
=== djdarkman__ [n=djdarkma@fl-86-120-23-165.fiberlink.mures.rdsnet.ro] has joined #kubuntu
=== aroo [n=justin@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== SuprUsr [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-14-231.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== jrenato [n=jrenato@201-75-100-138-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyoooops   WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!03:40
intelikeykhaije1 i don't but what's the issue ?03:40
=== roman_ [n=roman@d36-15-48.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu
jttwhen i run adept i get an update list  anyone know what command adept uses to get that list of updates I want to get that list and put it in a file03:43
intelikeyBigMac have you made any headway on the " katapult " question ?03:43
=== zhangkai_ [n=zhangkai@222.173.146.82] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyjtt you can   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > list      and press the n key then enter.   or ctrl+c03:44
jttintelikey, thanks a lot03:45
khaije1intelikey: i'm very interested in the technologies and was wondering about a comparison between the two w/ as much detail as possible, inc. anecdotal experiences03:45
khaije1intelikey: they both seem very strong and i'm surprised i don't hear more about them, for my next machine i'm experimenting w/ the idea of virtualizing large parts of it03:46
intelikeykhaije1 well,  i would be as useless as the tits on a boar hog    so i'll just leave that alone.03:46
khaije1uhm... ?03:46
=== khaije1 repeats to himself "It's just an idiom, it's just an idiom...."
=== zblach [n=zblach@adsl-75-12-62-113.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
zblachhey all. quick question: when I try to add a printer through system settings, it just locks up. is there a way around this?03:48
BigMacintelikey: No I haven't, do you have any suggestions?03:48
=== lucky_lucas [n=lucas@159.116.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyBigMac maybe.     ls -l /usr/bin/x-www-browser     see what it's aimed at.03:49
intelikeyBigMac i'm not sure kde recognizes that    but it may.   if it does you can point that at what you want to open.03:50
=== sakabatou_ [n=sakabato@sb-217-129-120-240.netvisao.pt] has joined #kubuntu
=== strabes [n=alex@ip68-108-31-178.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
BigMacit outputted a line, mind if I pm you it?03:50
intelikeyzblach yeah.     web-browser   go to   127.0.0.1:63103:51
intelikeyBigMac sure.03:51
zblachintelikey: times out03:51
zblachno firewall either03:51
intelikeyBigMac only the last "word" of that output is important...   so follow the link to it's end point.   ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser03:52
intelikeyzblach you have cupsys installed ?        and is it running ?03:52
=== intelikey thought cupsys was part of a default installlll
=== zblach too
zblachcupsys is installed03:53
zblachand cupsd is running03:53
zblachbut till, timeout03:53
intelikeyzblach not running dapper are you ?03:53
zblachfeisty03:53
=== Sleepy_Coder [n=sucky_ke@adsl-69-225-6-59.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyzblach well i honestly hope not, but that sounds just like the bug in dapper.   someone keeps re-introducing the same bug back into the packages.   was in hoary, was fixed in breezy, reappeared in dapper in an update of all things.   and i quit tracking it...   but that's exactly what it would do.03:55
zblachintelikey: what did you do for a fix in the end?03:56
intelikeyi haven't.03:56
=== poningru_ [n=poningru@ip72-209-70-78.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
zblachhrm03:56
zblachany clue as to where I should look next?03:57
zblachget the sources and recompile?03:57
BigMacintelikey: what about that?03:58
intelikeyzblach but you can check if there have been any updates of   cupsys foomatic-db* or gutenprint*     if so try them.  or try the older version and see if it's there also.03:58
intelikeyone can regress a version if needed.03:59
=== anderson [n=anderson@201-69-62-83.dial-up.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyBigMac yes that's it.    try  sudo update-alternatives x-www-browser config        i think that's the command.04:00
zblachi see no updates04:00
zblachand i don't think there's been an update since the feisty release04:00
intelikeyzblach you can try the source.  i make no promices about it though.04:01
zblachok04:01
zblachsure04:01
=== _dumbkiwi_ [n=kde-deve@125-238-37-144.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu
BigMacintelikey: nah, not the command04:03
intelikeyman update-alternatives04:03
intelikeyor jsut edit the symlink...  that's what i do.04:04
BigMachow do I do the latter?04:04
=== cathal [n=cathal@89.101.192.70] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeysudo rm /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser ;ln -s /usr/bin/<firefox> /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser      (note that <firefox> is example only and would need to be an actual filename.  without <>04:05
intelikeyooops  sudo the ln  also.04:05
=== Joxam [n=james@207-118-210-194.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu
JoxamHello, cats.04:07
JoxamI need some help04:07
JoxamI have FF, and i need to configure something04:07
Joxambut I forget how.04:07
JoxamI have a tv tuner card, and it is registering as an 'unknown device'04:07
JoxamI got it to work before04:07
Joxambut forgot where I changed something04:07
=== calvarez [n=Hhhhh@r82h185.res.gatech.edu] has joined #kubuntu
Joxamall I need to do is change it from 0 = Unknown device to 4 which equals my card04:08
=== dr0fnax is now known as dr0fnax_away
=== walter [n=walter@CPE000f3dbc2e83-CM001868e2b244.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== _neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44347.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu
JoxamSo...04:09
JoxamNo one.04:09
Joxamhmm.04:09
intelikeyJoxam any of these addresses sound right ?   /etc/modprobe.d/    /etc/X11/xorg.conf    /etc/udev/   ?04:09
JoxamNo no.04:09
JoxamIt was somehting I had to change in console04:09
Joxamand option04:09
=== calvarez [n=Hhhhh@r82h185.res.gatech.edu] has joined #kubuntu
Joxamlike, just have it change from 0 to 404:10
JoxamI have a tv wonder pro04:10
Joxamand that is 404:10
Joxamon the list04:10
=== Hhhhh [n=Hhhhh@r82h185.res.gatech.edu] has joined #kubuntu
Joxamof cards04:10
JoxamSOrry, I'll stop typing like that.04:10
JoxamI just hit enter a lot when I'm thinking fast.04:10
zblachintelikey: compiled from source. built, installed, and still nothing04:10
intelikeyJoxam not in  /proc/   was it ?04:10
zblachi'll bug the cups dudes about it04:10
=== _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde
intelikeyzblach good luck with it.04:11
zblachthanks04:11
zblachif i make any headway, want me to tell you about it?04:11
intelikeyyes04:11
=== strabes [n=alex@ip68-108-31-178.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== gopika [n=gopika@216.16.241.195] has joined #kubuntu
=== jrenato_ [n=jrenato@201-75-100-138-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyJoxam one other place comes to mind,   /boot/config*     but that would only be if you are rebuilding the kernel to support it.04:13
Billiardhey in what folder can i find "Microsoft Windows PostScript drivers from a Windows 2000 or higher system"04:13
intelikeyBilliard one question,   why ?      but at any rate   ##windows   might be the place for that Q04:14
=== skopi [n=skopi@ppp91-122-6-69.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru] has joined #kubuntu
Billiardim reading this guide to share a printer to windows04:15
Billiardit says i need to copy those files to a folder on my linux system04:15
intelikeyhmmm ok.    well that makes some sense,  i guess.       but it doesn't tell you the name ?04:16
Billiardit tells me a folder04:16
Billiardbut in that folder my windows system doesnt have to files04:16
Billiardthose*04:16
intelikeythose files ?     which files ?04:17
=== jontec___ [n=jontec@dialup-4.248.251.252.Dial1.Washington2.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu
Billiardps5ui.dll04:17
Billiard    pscript.hlp04:17
Billiard    pscript.ntf04:17
Billiard    pscript5.dll04:17
intelikeyif it tells you the name of the file/s you can `find /mountpoint/ -iname [pscript.hlp,pscript.ntf,pscript5.dll]  `04:18
intelikeyfind / -iname pscript*04:19
=== getse [n=getse@189.138.117.1] has joined #kubuntu
=== dr_willis [n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyfind / -iname pscript* 2>/dev/null               i like clean output.04:19
intelikeyoh i missed the first one.   sorry.   find / -iname ps5ui.dll 2>/dev/null04:20
=== dogatemycomputer [n=walkerd@ip68-3-69-190.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyand using the mountpoint would help that greatly, also sub-dirs in that mountpoint...    find /media/hda1/windows/system32/ -iname ps5ui.dll   for example.04:22
=== zach [n=zach@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyso it doesn't search the entire trillion gigabites of storage you have04:23
dr_willis;loc04:23
dr_willisoops :004:23
dr_willisheh04:23
Joxamdoes video4linux have an irc channel?04:24
=== pawittp [n=pawitp@ppp-58.9.141.9.revip2.asianet.co.th] has joined #kubuntu
intelikey1024^1024bytes04:24
intelikeywow.  did you know bc will actually compute that...04:25
zachGreets, everyone. Was wondering if someone could give me some help with getting the Bluetooth running on my laptop. I've done a fair amount of googling and haven't really gotten anywhere, and I did "lspci" and nothing came up indicating it's recognizing the Bluetooth adapter. Should I take this to mean it's not supported?04:26
dr_willis!calc 1024^102404:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about calc 1024^1024 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:26
dr_willisbummer04:26
=== skopi [n=skopi@ppp91-122-6-69.pppoe.avangard-dsl.ru] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
intelikeybig number.   math -s '1024^1024 +1' | wc -c04:26
intelikey317404:26
intelikeyit's 3174 digits long04:26
=== djdarkman_ [n=djdarkma@cl-86-125-161-185.cablelink.mures.rdsnet.ro] has joined #kubuntu
=== lucky_lucas [n=lucas@81.82.77.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #kubuntu
=== AstroGirl [n=manda@202.172.113.180] has joined #kubuntu
=== Quinn_Storm [n=quinn@pool-71-240-49-185.pitt.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
AstroGirlHi all, I have a fresh install of Kubuntu Feisty - and a really bad memory - can someone tell me which package to get so I can compile a tar.bz2?04:28
dr_willisbuild-essential04:28
=== max [n=max@bas1-montreal42-1178045564.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu
AstroGirlbrilliant, thanks dr_willis!04:29
=== Arwen [i=anon32@wikipedia/anon32] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisits only asked in here like 12 times a day :)04:29
Arwenthe mplayer distributed with Ubuntu is way too old... is there anywhere I can get a recent build from?04:29
=== GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
maxyo how do i go to ubuntu irc?04:30
dr_willisya mean to #ubuntu ?04:30
maxyeah04:30
dr_willis /join #channelname04:30
maxim a nooob04:30
dr_willisirc basics :)04:30
dr_willis!irc04:30
ubotuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines04:30
maxthx04:31
=== nalioth_ [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #kubuntu
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
=== Joxam is now known as Jay
=== Jay is now known as joxam
=== mahdi_ [n=mahdi@c-24-147-12-73.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
Arwen...04:32
zachHas anyone in here had any luck getting Bluetooth running in Feisty?04:32
BenPAcan anyone tell me how I can just reinstall the os ... I was running out of space tried to resize and screwed it up but all I need is to maybe try and reinstall the os04:32
intelikeyi have a major problem with bash       in dapper bash is worthless.    it expands ' * '  as if you typed   *04:32
zachBenPA: Just pop in the installation disc and reboot.04:33
Quinn_Stormworks fine ootb here, zach , chipset?04:33
intelikeyBenPA reinstall is just like install04:33
Arwenthe mplayer distributed with Ubuntu is way too old... is there anywhere I can get a recent build from?04:33
zachQuinn_Storm: Umm, for the Bluetooth adapter? Not sure. Ran lspci and didn't find anything, and also briefly looked through KInfoCenter and couldn't find anything of relevance.04:34
=== BenPA [n=b727plan@pool-151-201-236-241.pitt.east.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu []
Quinn_Stormand you're sure its enabled? check for a button or switch that turns it on/off, sometimes it won't show up unless the switch is on04:34
Quinn_Storm(presuming its a laptop)04:34
=== sandra [n=sandra@200.37.191.97] has joined #kubuntu
=== sandra is now known as RodGo
Arwengod damn it...04:35
RodGohi all04:36
=== gerbilshiny [i=shinyger@ip-89-168-5-143.cust.homechoice.net] has joined #kubuntu
RodGo i need some help04:36
zachThere's a little switch with a light and the Bluetooth logo next to it, but when I hold it, the light doesn't come on.04:36
RodGoplease04:36
=== nalioth_ is now known as nalioth
Quinn_Stormhmm, strange, I don't know...what brand/model laptop, zach ?04:36
zachAcer Aspire 3620. Tried googling that model number along with bluetooth and ubuntu, and saw a couple articles suggesting it will work, but not really with any details.04:37
zachShould it be showing up in the output of lspci if it's supported?04:38
Quinn_Stormhmm...and (I know dumb question) your sure there is a working bluetooth module in it? sometimes models can come with or without04:38
=== phishinphree [n=difas@bb-216-195-173-249.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== jrenato_ is now known as jrenato
Quinn_Stormand as for lspci, no, mine doesn't either and I've used it04:38
=== max [n=max@bas1-montreal42-1178045564.dsl.bell.ca] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
RodGohi all04:39
RodGoi need some help please04:39
zachTo be honest, I'm just assuming there is one because of the switch with the Bluetooth logo next to it, but I'm not positive. The laptop was given to me, so I can't really be sure.04:39
BluesKajRodGo: just ask04:39
titanix88RodGo: what help?04:39
=== mindslant [n=steven@cpe-67-10-81-160.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
Quinn_Stormah ok, zach ... you could always try the evil OS to test04:39
RodGoi am using kubuntu feisty and just installed beryl04:39
RodGoi think i installed it badly and tryed to reinstall04:40
Quinn_Stormdid you use the packages, RodGo ?04:40
zachWhat's it show up as in your /dev folder, Quinn_Storm?04:40
Quinn_Storm(the ones in universe)04:40
RodGoand now, when i open beryl, its like i have like 20 panels04:40
RodGoinsted of just the 4 faces of the cube04:40
RodGothe first time, i used the sudo apt-get beryl beryl-manager emerald-themes04:41
Quinn_Stormzach: nothing, but use 'hciconfig' to look up the bluetooth interfaces04:41
titanix88RodGo: O _O04:41
RodGothen i tried to unisntall with the same command but with remove04:41
=== jikanter [n=jordan@c-24-12-220-77.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
RodGoand reinstalled with adept04:41
RodGoi can take a screen man this is crazy04:41
RodGoand if i kill beryl or use kWin isntead, it works just fine04:42
Quinn_Stormsure, you probably just have to tweak the settings04:42
zachJust tried "$ hciconfig up" and it said "Can't get device info: No such device"04:42
=== scififan [n=robert@74-60-42-255.wco.clearwire-dns.net] has joined #kubuntu
RodGoi searched everywhere man, can you givme a clue?04:42
Quinn_Stormzach: just do 'hciconfig -a'04:42
=== aib [n=aib@pdpc/supporter/basic/aib] has joined #kubuntu
Quinn_StormRodGo: post that screenshot plz04:43
RodGok wait04:43
titanix88RodGo: probably try at #ubuntu-effects sorry, no clue :(04:43
zachK... Ran that and it didn't give any output, and the KDE-Bluetooth logo in the systray is still grayed-out.04:43
=== xGrantx [n=grant@70-100-160-217.dsl1-erie.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu
Darkkishhttp://www.hallpass.com/media/beerstand.html lol all of you guys have to watch tisd04:43
Darkkishthis*04:43
=== sep1318 [n=ses678@dhcp-180-220-congressional.students.american.edu] has joined #kubuntu
Quinn_Stormok, zach , sounds like it at least can't find it, but it could be there, the interface is invisible when acpi has it shut off04:44
RodGoaight04:44
RodGothis is the screen04:44
RodGohttp://img466.imageshack.us/img466/9760/instantnea1zb6.png04:44
=== HerrSoda [n=Herr@149.Red-83-54-249.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== chuck [n=chuck@ip68-9-20-156.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
zachOk... How would I go about getting acpi to start it up?04:45
=== chuck is now known as sunnyhours
=== sep1318 [n=ses678@dhcp-180-220-congressional.students.american.edu] has left #kubuntu []
Quinn_Stormusually that's where you push the button04:45
Quinn_Stormalso google for acer acpi stuff04:45
Quinn_Stormlike acer acpi bluetooth or something04:45
sunnyhoursis dvd::rip capable of ripping a dvd to an .iso file?04:46
sunnyhoursanyone know?04:46
RodGoany ideas Quinn_Storm?04:46
phishinphreehey all.  I've been having network troubles since I reinstalled kubuntu last week.  The server takes about 7 seconds or so to reply to a web request.  I've tried turning off ipv6 and I have changed my network configuration, wires, and nic card but the problem persists.  any suggestions?04:46
Quinn_StormRodGo: well the first idea that comes to mind is that kde's pager doesn't (in general) work right with beryl04:46
Quinn_StormI'd say try just dropping the pager from your taskbar for now04:46
zachRodGo: That's what the pager looks like after you start Beryl?04:47
Quinn_Stormzach: not usually, that's a weird bug, probably in his pager, haven't seen it before, but kde's pager and beryl do not work well together04:47
=== xanatoscraven [n=azrael@70-101-112-102.dsl1-field.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88flame me for using gnome but beryl is a lot better with default ubuntu theme.04:47
Quinn_Stormwell the theme that comes with the beryl in universe is pretty ugly04:48
Quinn_Storm(I think)04:48
zachYeah, I've noticed that. I actually use a script to kill and restart Beryl every time I turn Beryl off.04:48
=== joxam [n=james@207-118-210-194.dyn.centurytel.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
zachrestart Kicker*04:49
Quinn_Stormpersonally in kubuntu/kde, I've come to like the emerald theme 'sky'04:49
RodGoyes zach04:49
RodGothe pager looks like that04:49
xGrantxdo I have to add any params to mkdosfs to format a hard drive to FAT32?04:49
xGrantxbesides the device04:50
Quinn_Storm-F 3204:50
=== Brownie [i=Brownie@c-69-248-19-223.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
xGrantxoh ok04:50
dogatemycomputerphishinphree: i'm sorry to hear it.. network problems are hard to diagnose..04:51
=== wersdaluv [n=allan@124.104.5.126] has joined #kubuntu
=== hansen [n=hansen@hrhansen.dk] has joined #kubuntu
wersdaluvhas anyone here successfully ran synce-kde on kubuntu feisty?04:52
zachQuinn_Storm: BTW, are you THE Quinn Storm?04:52
Quinn_Stormindeed, zach04:52
titanix88can anyone predict a stable 3d(beryl+compiz) in future?04:52
Quinn_Stormyes, titanix88 , it is on its way04:52
zachQuinn_Storm: I'm sure you get this question all the time, but where can I find out the status of the merge?04:53
=== RodGo [n=sandra@200.37.191.97] has joined #kubuntu
wersdaluvdoes raki work with kubuntu feisty?04:53
Quinn_Stormzach: well...mostly asking people in #opencompositing-dev and on opencompositing.org where we're busily working on it...I"m running the merged code now, and we're all hacking on it04:54
=== chenox [n=chenox@85.136.224.4] has joined #kubuntu
zachHas a new name been settled on yet, or was it decided to keep the old names?04:56
titanix88Quinn_Storm: wow u r beryl/compiz developer? what an honour to me u(if u aren't kidding)!04:56
scififanlol04:56
Quinn_Stormthe new name discussion is in the works, zach04:56
Quinn_Stormtitanix88: its no honor, I'm just a regular gal, but I am not kidding04:56
=== jtchief01 [n=jtchief0@adsl-065-006-144-253.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
phishinphreedogatemycomputer: Its strange since everything was working fine a week ago when an earlier version of kubuntu.  I'm thinking of switching over to fc704:57
scififanit's funny how some people see programmers as almost rock stars04:57
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== daphbobo_ [n=nats@196.218.30.10] has joined #kubuntu
phishinphreei can't live with a 7 second latency when loading a local web page04:58
zachWell, given how many people consider programming as an "art," it kinda makes sense.04:58
AstroGirl!mp304:58
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:58
=== rolnyzx [n=rolnyzx@c-67-183-144-129.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== jtchief90 [n=jtchief0@adsl-065-006-144-253.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== tycho [n=tycho@216-160-49-251.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu
Quinn_Stormit is an art, but I'm no master04:58
rolnyzxanybody uses yakuake here? What's the shortcut for a new tab? Konsole's ctrl + alt + n doesn't work04:58
=== jtchief01 [n=jtchief0@adsl-065-006-144-253.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cryoniq [n=chatzill@me-54-110-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #kubuntu
phishinphreeits funny how some people can't paint or plau music but they can program very well.  Im a coder but most def. not an artist04:59
Quinn_Stormthere are many kinds of art04:59
Quinn_Stormthere are plenty of songwriters who couldn't paint a cube04:59
dogatemycomputerphishinphree: i had a similar problem a while back that was solved by a rebuild and I haven't seen it since.04:59
=== noiesmo [n=noiesmo@unaffiliated/noiesmo] has joined #kubuntu
Quinn_Stormhttp://www.opencompositing.org/viewtopic.php?t=478&f=46 - here's the name thread btw05:00
dogatemycomputerphishinphree: i'm not a fan of Fedora (or most of the RPM based systems).  Seems everytime its installed and working I start to suffer from dependency hell..05:00
phishinphreeweird.  I must have caught your bug when i rebuilt :-)05:00
=== RodGo [n=sandra@200.37.191.97] has joined #kubuntu
=== wersdaluv [n=allan@124.104.5.126] has left #kubuntu []
=== intelikey bugs the channel
=== PhinnFort [n=martin@81-31-233-38.net.nc-systems.no] has joined #kubuntu
phishinphreeyeah, i've run into the dependency issues before working with redhat.  seems to be getting a little better as of late tho05:01
xGrantxuh, mkdosfs didn't seem to work...05:01
zachQuinn_Storm: Are there any major changes we can expect in the next release, and any rough estimate of when it'll be out? (Sorry if I'm asking too many questions. Just tell me to shut up when it's getting on your nerves. :D )05:01
dogatemycomputerQuinn_Storm: it does take a certain amount of skill and intelligence to be a good programmer though.  Have to see things from a different perspective.  I personally admire most coders..05:01
rolnyzxfound it <ctrl> <shift> n05:01
intelikeyxGrantx sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/<devicenode>05:02
Quinn_Stormzach: I'm ok, and I really don't have an answer to those questions, sorry05:02
xGrantxintelikey: I did that05:02
zachNo problem05:02
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyxGrantx and it said what ?05:02
xGrantxit said05:02
xGrantx"mkdosfs 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)"05:02
xGrantxthat's it05:02
dogatemycomputerphishinphree: well.. I just formatted over a Suse 10.2 installation.. partially because of my disgust over the Microsoft deal.. but the dependency hell was a problem too.  I don't think its going away anytime soon although I would be willing to switch if they would standardize on a single type of package management system for all platforms.05:02
zachWell, I need to get off here. Thanks for the help, Quinn_Storm. Nice meeting/chatting with you. Peace.05:03
=== andrew__ [n=andrew@pool-71-97-161-32.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyxGrantx good it's done05:03
Quinn_Stormsure, zach05:03
xGrantxwell I listed the devices again and it's still NFTS format05:03
=== goldenear [n=goldenea@2001:6f8:392:1:213:2ff:fe4a:53a7] has joined #kubuntu
xGrantx*NTFS05:03
Quinn_StormxGrantx: the partition is probably still set to ntfs type05:03
Quinn_Stormnot sure though05:03
xGrantxso how do I fix that?05:04
=== Lurkan [n=Lurkan@189.142.99.224] has joined #kubuntu
xGrantxI probably can't just restart like windows05:04
intelikeyxGrantx what do you men "listed the device " ?05:05
xGrantxfdisk -l05:05
intelikeythat only lists the partition table.  has nothing to do with what fs is on it.05:05
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
xGrantxoh05:06
intelikeysudo cfdisk /dev/<device>    and change the partition type if you like.05:06
xGrantxhow do I change it?05:06
xGrantxjust with that command?05:06
intelikeyit's a no brainer.  run the app.05:06
intelikeyyep,  interactive05:07
xGrantxoh ok05:07
xGrantxheh05:07
xGrantxthanks05:07
=== Robbe [n=kvirc@83.101.24.66] has joined #kubuntu
=== home_ [n=home@adsl-70-234-136-29.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== raymond [n=raymond@75-92-188-219.sea.clearwire-dns.net] has joined #kubuntu
home_hello05:08
=== scififan [n=robert@74-60-42-255.wco.clearwire-dns.net] has joined #kubuntu
home_n e 1 from around oklahoma05:08
intelikeyyo, home. sup.05:09
home_not much new to this chat05:09
raymondanyone have luck getting a linksys WPC54GS working05:09
raymond?05:09
home_what is it first?05:10
=== chuck [n=chuck@ip68-9-20-156.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
chuck!mouse05:10
raymondPCMCIA Wireless card05:10
ubotuEnabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto05:10
home_sorry no05:10
dogatemycomputer!pcmcia05:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about pcmcia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:10
dogatemycomputer!wireless05:10
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:10
raymondi've used ndiswrapper to load a driver and it shows up in System Settings but whenever i try enabling it doesnt work05:11
=== SuprUsr is now known as Kr4t05
home_i got a question for 1 of u computer guys05:12
=== fusspils [n=fusspils@194-144-36-99.du.xdsl.is] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputerraymond: http://www.kosmaczewski.net/blogs/tech/archives/2006/02/how_to_install_1.php might help05:12
=== intelikey looks for computer guys 8|
dogatemycomputerraymond: it appears the card works well with the NDIS wrapper..05:13
intelikeyare they like machine men ?05:13
home_lol05:13
raymondyeah i read that too hence my confusion as to why it isnt working05:13
dogatemycomputerintelikey: lol05:13
intelikeyhome_ just ask you Q.05:13
intelikey:)05:13
raymondprobably typed something wrong05:13
dogatemycomputerraymond: i've never had a wireless card that didn't just work out of the box once the O/S was installed so i'm sorry :(05:14
=== BluesKaj looks around for computer guys
GrueTamerhi BluesKaj05:15
=== Stratys [n=bradshaw@pool-72-64-13-22.cncdnh.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
home_i am new to linux05:15
BluesKajhey GrueTamer05:15
dogatemycomputerraymond: what inf file did you use?05:15
dogatemycomputerraymond: sudo ndiswrapper -i /cdrom/linksys/drivers/w2k/lsbcmnds.inf05:15
=== intelikey [n=UN-root@dialup-4.227.14.245.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajGrueTamer: yer it !05:15
raymondLSBCMNDS.inf05:15
dogatemycomputerraymond: from the w2k directory?05:16
raymondyup05:16
=== wersdaluv [n=allan@124.104.5.126] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeydid i miss home_ 's question, durring my modem reset ?05:16
=== wersdaluv [n=allan@124.104.5.126] has left #kubuntu []
BluesKajlesbian commands ad infinitum...ooo...kinda riske' for a linux bunch05:16
dogatemycomputerraymond: in that case I assume you depmod and modprobe-d.. right?05:16
Stratysgood evening05:17
raymondyup, followed the ndiswrapper how to05:17
dogatemycomputerraymond: sorry dude..05:17
=== durpa [n=chatzill@d207-216-249-182.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu
StratysDoes anyone know anything about converting avi's to dvd to play in a home player?05:17
dogatemycomputerraymond: lol.. i didn't read the howto so i was just making sure ..05:17
raymondlike i said i probably typed something wrong.. just need to go through it again step by step05:18
=== zhangkai__ [n=zhangkai@222.173.146.82] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyhome_ don't take my antics so seriously.  i get playful now and when.   if you need help with something just ask.  that's what the channel is for.05:18
=== Aresilek [n=Aresilek@planeshift/player/Aresilek] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputerlol.. I didn't even realize he failed to ask the question..05:19
raymondhmm ndiswrapper -l says that there is an alternate driver install (bcm43xx) wonder if that is what could be the issue...05:19
BluesKajwe're waiting for home05:19
=== no0b [n=no0b@212.25.39.86] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeydogatemycomputer well my modem reset and i could have missed it...05:19
home_oh sorry i got lost in my com for a min05:19
dogatemycomputerraymond: I do remember reading something about the wrong driver loading and you have to blacklist one of them to get the correct driver to load..05:20
home_well i was runnin xp rite05:20
home_it crashed big surprise05:20
=== intelikey tapps fingure nails on desk impatiently...
=== SlimG [n=robert@84.205.58.245] has joined #kubuntu
=== stylus is now known as tjl
home_when com starts it tells me to replace hard drive because failure is imenient05:21
dogatemycomputerraymond: there is a particular line in the ndiswrapper docs somewhere that tells you to type something, then you get a response and the response "looks right" but its not exactly what's in the documentation.. and you have to blacklist the one that responded and force it to load the correct one.  I don't remember specifics..05:21
home_but linux says nothing wrong05:21
home_y05:21
raymondlooking through documentation for it05:22
=== dbglt [n=dbglt@60-242-135-20.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
raymondi had a page up that had something about it but i closed firefox and lost it05:22
intelikeyhome_ oooh yuch...  windows thinks it's gonna blow chuncks...     dik. home_ but linux is not windows don't expect anything about them to be ==    if you'd like to test the hd linux has apps/utils for that...05:22
dogatemycomputerhome_: i've installed linux on machines that wouldn't even boot under XP.05:23
intelikeyerrr dik/idk ^05:23
dogatemycomputerhome_: linux is much more forgiving in many cases..05:23
intelikeytypos can get ugly.05:23
home_i really like it05:24
dogatemycomputerhome_: heck.. i'm working on a machine now with a busted CD drive that we couldn't install windows on but I was able to get the net install to complete successfully with linux.05:24
home_linux that is05:24
BluesKajdogatemycomputer: prolly lost the windows mbr05:24
intelikeyidk = i don't know   btw.05:24
=== Kr4t05 [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-14-231.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeybtw = by the way   btw.05:24
home_i know05:24
dogatemycomputerBluesKaj: what probably lost the MBR?05:24
intelikey:)05:24
raymonddogatemycomputer: i think that is what the problem is05:24
dogatemycomputerhome_: do a disk check and stick with linux if Windows is being so fussy..05:24
home_i am05:25
BluesKajwindows did , dogatemycomputer05:25
raymonddogatemycomputer: i think that the bcm43xx is not supposed to be being used05:25
home_i am havin trouble gettin wine to run my file share program05:25
dogatemycomputerraymond: then can't you add it to the blacklist?05:25
dogatemycomputerraymond: i'm just guessing here.  i'm a total noob ;)05:25
dbgltis there a usable kde4 package for kubuntu?05:26
raymonddogatemycomputer: so am i05:26
BluesKaj!fileshare05:26
=== blizzzek is now known as blizzzek_pennt
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fileshare - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:26
dogatemycomputerBluesKaj: the machine that wouldn't boot under windows actually had a bad USB port which would cause Windows to simply blue screen every few minutes..  linux registered the error and ignored it..05:26
raymondgoing to try blacklisting it05:26
dogatemycomputerhome_: what file shareing program are you using?05:26
home_not sure how do i find out05:27
BluesKajyeah, i figured windows was to blame :)05:27
home_i have kubuntu runin now05:27
dogatemycomputerhome_: well.. what do you want to do exactly?  what application are you trying to use with Wine?05:27
intelikeyhome_  konsole command    man badblocks      well prolly   man man  them man what ever else.     anyway badblocks can be ran on the disk or a partition thereof.   and in readonly mode will not "hurt" anything, but only reveal the badblocks it finds.      not a bad idea if you want to be sure.05:27
home_it is mp3rocketpro05:27
dogatemycomputerhome_: give me a sec to look.. k?05:28
home_its for windows05:28
=== soulrider [n=mauro@r190-64-90-126.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyword.  samba05:29
home_i have that i think05:29
home_open it with samba05:29
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
intelikey!samba05:29
ubotusamba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT05:29
intelikey!swat05:30
intelikeyooops05:30
intelikey!info swat05:30
ubotuswat: Samba Web Administration Tool. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.24-2ubuntu1.2 (feisty), package size 800 kB, installed size 2180 kB05:30
intelikeynot sure that will help you but i always try to think of a non-M$ way to get from point * to point [A-z] 05:31
dogatemycomputerhome_: it looks like they have a linux download available..05:31
home_where05:32
dogatemycomputerhome_: have you logged in and tried to download the linux version if its available for pro?05:32
dogatemycomputerhome_: www.mp3rocketpro.com05:32
home_havent found it05:32
titanix88Quinn_Storm : is there any dapper repository from which i can install directly? also, why they are specific hardware / server based? A lot of graPHICS CARDS out there supports opengl.05:32
=== BluesKaj [n=blues@bas1-sudbury98-1177672422.dsl.bell.ca] has left #kubuntu []
raymondok how do i create a file with text already in it. because i can't chmod the blacklist file05:32
Quinn_Stormtitanix88: huh?05:32
=== Kr4t05 [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-14-231.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeytitanix88 install what   i'll check the repos  ?05:33
dogatemycomputerhome_: it won't let me get past the initial screen unless I login and I don't have an account and I don't want to give them my credit card information.  There should be a "RPM" download..05:33
titanix88Quinn_Storm : about beryl / compiz ofcourse.05:33
home_use mine ok05:33
Quinn_Stormtitanix88: dapper is not exactly supported05:33
intelikeyQuinn_Storm ?05:34
intelikeyby beryl or by this channel ?05:34
titanix88Quinn_Storm  : why not? it's the best stable ubuntu out there.05:34
Quinn_Stormtitanix88: its too olod05:34
Quinn_Stormold05:34
Quinn_Stormintelikey: beryl05:34
intelikeyabout to say.05:34
dogatemycomputerraymond: you should be able to blacklist modueles by editing the file with a text editor.  "sudo mcedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"05:35
=== darked_ [n=darked@h460ad7df.area7.spcsdns.net] has joined #kubuntu
raymondi tried with vim and it wont let me save it because it is only read only05:35
dogatemycomputerhome_: email it to dogatemycomputer@gmail.com05:35
intelikeyyeah dapper is almost a year old now.   it's ancient     laughs...05:35
titanix88Quinn_Storm : i upgraded it to 6.06.3 how about that?05:35
dogatemycomputerhome_: you can change the password in 10 minutes.. I don't want to keep it.05:35
=== darked_ is now known as DarkED
=== [GuS] [n=gustavo@190.48.105.220] has joined #Kubuntu
Quinn_Stormtitanix88: if its dapper its dapper, but check beryl-project.org for info05:36
raymondnevermind05:37
intelikeytitanix88 however.  beryl is not supported in this channel.    "just policy"05:37
raymondfingers failed me yet again and i didnt type chmod command correctly05:37
home_ok dog it will take a minute05:37
aibis there a fast host that I can download the kubuntu dvd from?05:37
dogatemycomputerraymond: i'm not sure you should chmod that file though..05:38
intelikeyaib nl. is pretty hot.05:38
titanix88intelikey : i forgot i have to put "kubuntu" word in my every line to get a support here :p05:38
raymondim changing it back to the permissions it is supposed to have05:38
aibtx05:38
raymondi just couldnt write to it05:38
dogatemycomputerraymond: ahhhhhh05:38
raymondand now it is back at read only05:38
intelikeytitanix88 it's not that.  it's that there is a support channel for that.05:38
intelikey!beryl | titanix8805:39
ubotutitanix88: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects05:39
=== hitmanWilly [n=KVIrc@66-190-176-18.static.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
aib500KB. that's 10 times better than I got w/ the US host. thanks05:39
intelikeyaib you bet.05:39
=== intelikey slips a firecracker under hitmanWilly 's shoe and lights it.
home_ok sent dog05:40
dogatemycomputerhome_: give me a minute..05:41
dogatemycomputerhome_: i'll brb05:41
home_k05:41
=== jmichaelx [n=james@c-71-193-111-127.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputerhome_: okay.. still there?05:42
home_yep05:43
=== raymond [n=raymond@75-92-188-219.sea.clearwire-dns.net] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputerhome_: okay.. go to www.mp3rocketpro.com -> click on LOGIN -> login -> click on the little penguin on the right hand side (should say something like, "Linux Users Click Here".. and then follow the instructions05:43
=== anyo [n=anyo@h160.178.213.151.ip.alltel.net] has joined #kubuntu
home_r u serious i am that dum05:44
home_doh05:44
dogatemycomputerhome_: you there?05:44
home_yep05:44
dogatemycomputerhome_: nevermind.. don't.. it just refers you to the limewire site so you can install the Limewire client.05:44
dogatemycomputerhome_: since that's the case..05:44
=== dr_willis [n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu
home_ah i thought so05:44
intelikeytitanix88 and i wasn't trying to chase you out of here either.    just pointing out the structure of the support channels.     it's like they don't support kde in #ubuntu   reason is basically to keep the questions as answerable as possable.   when it's busy in any channel you don't want a thousand topics scrolling by or you'll enter the command that someone accidently sent you that was intended for someone else...      th05:44
intelikeydid i type that much..........05:45
=== bbroom [n=bbroom@ip70-162-0-212.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputerhome_: you can download the debian version of the LImewire package directly from Limewire's site..  www.limewire.com05:45
=== userbn [n=userbn@202.150.68.114] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88intelikey : ok i get it.05:45
home_will it work with my subscript to mp305:46
dr_willisHmm. I got a lot of files with messed up permissions  on a filesystem.  got files next to dirs that are all marked executable (files that is) even tho they are jpgs and so forth. if i chmod -x *, then i also tag the dirs.   whats the proper way to Unexecutate the files but not the dirs05:46
home_prob not huh05:46
=== ringlej [n=ringlej@c-71-62-243-179.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputerhome_: Here is the link http://www.limewire.com/download/download.php?version=linux_deb05:46
dogatemycomputerhome_: it should since they're the ones directing you to the installation05:47
home_thanks ill do it brb05:47
dogatemycomputerhome_: if you're not sure then follow their instructions to download the software from their site05:47
=== tradotto [n=tradotto@237-71-14-216-arpa.cust.cinci.current.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== logan [n=logan@32.Red-88-23-139.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
home_ok its down loadin05:48
home_linux is so much more fun than windows05:49
scififanlol05:49
=== Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-138-125-221.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #kubuntu
home_its true05:49
dogatemycomputerhome_: download the RPM, save it to your desktop then "sudo apt-get install alien && sudo alien -d --scripts ~/Desktop/*.rpm && sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/*.deb"05:49
GrueTamerhome_: yup :)05:49
home_do i have to do that somewhere05:50
dogatemycomputerhome_: "sudo apt-get install alien" will install a utilty that converts rpm packages to debian05:50
intelikeydr_willis not a really good way.   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/37065    something like that maybe.05:50
home_doh05:50
dogatemycomputerhome_: "sudo alien -d --scripts *.rpm" .. -d tells it to convert the package to debian and --scripts tells it to convert the script if needed05:50
intelikeydr_willis find works well there also  i think i wrote that script about 5 or six years ago while learning bash....   so look before you leap.05:51
dogatemycomputerhome_: "dpkg -i ~/Desktop/*.deb" tells the package manager to install any debian packages found on your desktop (so make sure limewire is the only one)05:51
dr_willisintelikey,  was hopping chmod had a 'ignore dirs' option.05:51
scififanalien is an ugly solution... why not just find a .deb pkg or compile it from source05:51
dr_willisguess this explains why i never noticed it. :)05:51
intelikey:)05:51
dogatemycomputerscififan: because its easier and works for this specific problem.05:51
dogatemycomputerscififan: the only package you can download is the RPM.  It doesn't give you access to the source.05:52
=== kane [n=kane@cpe-70-112-48-39.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
scififanthen it's not worth using IMO05:52
=== poningru__ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
hitmanWillylimewire is only free as in beer, and even then its a castrated version05:52
=== jfrerichs [n=jfrerich@66-189-251-197.dhcp.nplt.ne.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
home_ok i guess i cant just click on it huh05:53
scififanthere are better ways to find stuff than using limewire05:53
=== poningru__ is now known as poningru
home_oh really how sci05:53
dogatemycomputerscififan: do you have any other suggestions for home?05:53
hitmanWillyalternatively, i think you can install rpm on ubuntu iirc05:53
scififandepends on what it is you're seeking05:53
dogatemycomputerscififan: apparently music.. and lots of it ;)05:53
home_music and movies05:53
intelikeyWARNING! warez clearance sale.   get all your warez at  127.0.0.105:54
hitmanWillylol...05:54
dogatemycomputerintelikey: you're funny :(05:54
scififanwhile i'm all for free source code and free computing environments, dl'ing music and movies is off limits IMO05:54
dogatemycomputer:)05:54
jfrerichsanyone know how to get my logitech mouse to auto connect in kubuntu?05:55
intelikey:)05:55
dogatemycomputerhome_: in that case.. if you feel comfortable.. you can try limewire.com first and see if their free version does what you like otherwise follow the instructions from mp3pro :)05:55
home_hey guys i tried to install package and it asks for a password but i cant type anything05:56
=== Noldoaran [n=robb@adsl-69-234-57-170.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu
soulriderintelikey: i never payed for anything while in windows, but now i dont need to pirate anything ebcasue everything is free :)05:56
dogatemycomputerhome_: it hides what you're typing so you can't see it.05:56
hitmanWillyhome_: did you try hitting enter05:56
intelikeyhome yes you can.   it doesn't echo passwords.05:56
home_oh it does cool05:56
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
home_ill try it05:57
soulrideri just tried installign windows in my machine, and it doesnt want to install :( :P05:57
soulriderit also decided to murder my grub05:57
jfrerichssuper grub05:57
home_hey its unpackin thanks05:57
scififanwhy would you want windows anyway....:)05:57
=== dogatemycomputer uses http://www.empornium.us/ for porn but won't download anything else
hitmanWillysoulrider: grub you can fix...windows is another story :P05:58
home_mine too soul then my windows crashed05:58
intelikeysoulrider heh.    feels better to be able to say.    "nan na, nan na, na na..."  and know you didn't do anything illeagle doesn't it   :)05:58
dogatemycomputersoulrider: no windows! bad!!05:58
=== raymond [n=raymond@75-92-188-219.sea.clearwire-dns.net] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputersoulrider: bad soulrider!05:58
soulriderlol05:58
home_is it good porn dog05:58
soulriderio just wanted to play resident evil 4 a bit05:58
jfrerichsanyone know how to get my logitech mouse to auto connect in kubuntu?  ive tried editing the /etc/default/bluetooth file nothing05:58
raymonddogatemycomputer: that was the problem got rid of that driver and re-depod and modprobed and success05:58
home_how do i run it now05:59
dogatemycomputerhome_: yeah06:00
hitmanWillyhome_: try typing limewire in a console06:00
dogatemycomputersoulrider: so you need your fix eh?  honestly.. i don't know.. does it even work under Wine or Crossover?06:00
home_what is console  u mean window06:00
dogatemycomputerraymond: wow.. glad it worked!! woohoo!06:00
soulriderdogatemycomputer: nope06:00
intelikeyjfrerichs i see that no one is answering you.   that normally doesn't mean that we didn't read your Q it means we don't know.   you can ask in  #ubuntu   that's not a kde issue it's a hardware issue   but be ready to inturpret the instructions from gnome'ish to k'ish06:00
hitmanWillyhome_: cmd line06:00
dogatemycomputerraymond: you should document that somewhere in the ubuntu forums.. step by step if you can..06:00
soulrideri just wanna try it out\06:00
dogatemycomputerraymond: i'm sure others will appreciate it..06:01
soulridersince id otn ahve any consoles other than my NES06:01
=== raymond_ [n=raymond@74-61-21-228.sea.clearwire-dns.net] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputerhome_: what'cha doing?  how far did you get?06:01
home_i just need to know how to run it06:01
=== dogatemycomputer avoids consoles
scififanwhy?06:02
dogatemycomputerhome_: okay.. did you download something?06:02
=== intelikey lives in a console
scififanconsoles are cool06:02
soulriderconsoles own06:02
home_yep limewire package06:02
raymond_yay console06:02
scififanget more work done06:02
hitmanWillygimmie my Eterm!!!06:02
dogatemycomputerhome_: okay.. did you save the .deb file to your desktop?  (make sure its a "deb" file)06:02
soulriderhome_: dont use limewire06:02
soulriderise frostwire06:02
dogatemycomputersoulrider: frostwire?06:02
home_i seen people usin that on my mp3 rocket06:03
soulrideryeah06:03
intelikeysoulrider good call but that may not work for what he wants...06:03
soulriderits the free version of limewire06:03
dogatemycomputersoulrider: is frostwire available in adept?06:03
soulriderthey are the asme =/06:03
scififani remember using eterms under enlightenment back in the day06:03
soulridernot sure, but i know theres an ubuntu package on their site06:03
=== hara [n=hara@dsl-tregw2-feeedf00-132.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu
intelikey!frostwire06:03
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire06:03
home_oh really06:03
scififanlol06:03
dogatemycomputerhome_: checkout that link.. he may have just saved you alot of grief..06:04
home_cool06:04
dogatemycomputersoulrider: thank you!!!06:04
scififantoo late... sullied your install with closed source nonsense06:04
dogatemycomputersoulrider: is there anything we can do to help you other than fix windows? ;)06:04
soulriderdogatemycomputer: i dont give a piece of poop abot windows now06:04
dogatemycomputerscififan: he never actually installed anything..06:04
soulridermy dad runs it06:04
scififangood06:04
soulriderso i installed resident evil on his machine06:04
=== jlove [n=jlove@202-154-149-248.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputersoulrider: lol.. pawn the evilness off on your dad eh?06:05
home_me either screw the gates06:05
=== poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-70-78.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
scififani'm sure it's only a matter of time before p2p servers and apps will be illegal completely...06:05
intelikeyskuttel has it on good authority that people in linux are not the smartest people in the world.           hmmm.....06:05
=== intelikey shoots skuttle butt
home_ok i am down loadin frostwire06:05
home_ill admit to it06:06
soulrideri havnt had windows on my machine in like 3 months06:06
soulriderbut i havnt really used it in around a year06:06
scififani've never had windows on this laptop06:06
=== jlove is now known as rpgsimmaster
soulriderexcept for the summer, i used to load it just to play lineage06:06
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputerhome_: just the fact that you're willing to give linux a try and you're working past these issues shows that you're more intelligent than most people.06:06
intelikeysoulrider yeah ya get weened pretty quick don't ya06:06
hitmanWillythis machine has been windows free since it was built06:06
soulriderintelikey: weened? what do you mean06:07
=== hitmanWilly refuses to pay the ms tax
=== duns_s [n=duns_s@mnhm-590c1e3e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu
scififanwill never run windows again... not on a personally owned machine. there will never be a need.06:07
dogatemycomputersoulrider: i have a windows machine at home.. its been a while since I booted it.06:07
rpgsimmasterAhem... on the note of booting06:07
intelikeysoulrider an idiom    off the milk, onto the meat.06:07
home_ok its done downloadin what now06:08
dr_willisArgh! Find is having fits with spaces inside filenames!06:08
dr_willisGrrr06:08
dogatemycomputersoulrider: ironically its the most powerful machine in the house and everytime I try to load linux on it.. it just crashes badly.. but the next machine will be built FOR linux.. which should make a big difference.06:08
rpgsimmasterdoes anyone know of a reason why the latest Kubuntu won't boot on older hardware06:08
scififanhates filenames with spaces06:08
=== Knightlust [n=Dax@ubuntu/member/knightlust] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputerhome_: you should be able to simply follow the instructions step by step..06:08
soulriderdogatemycomputer: i never had a single problemw ith linux, in fact, my hardware has worked better with linux than with windows06:08
soulriderwhich is kinda surprising06:08
intelikeyrpgsimmaster how "older" ?06:09
home_from what06:09
home_it downloaded and now nothing06:09
hitmanWillyhome_: type frostwire in a console06:09
intelikeyor terminal06:09
dogatemycomputersoulrider: I have linux installed on 2 laptops and 3 PCs.. its this one particular machine that has the problem.  I don't like using it anyway other than for gaming.. so its off 99% of the time.06:09
intelikey:)06:09
hitmanWillyhome_: or it may be under the k-menu06:09
rpgsimmasterintelikey: We're talking i386 (PII)06:09
rpgsimmaster20Gb Seagate HDD06:10
rpgsimmaster256 Mb RAM06:10
dogatemycomputerhome_: did you install it already or did you just download it and now you need help installing it?06:10
soulriderdogatemycomputer: i want a laptop, but i got no $06:10
intelikeyrpgsimmaster newer than anything i'm running06:10
rpgsimmasterI've had a boot problem with Kubuntu 7.0406:10
soulrideri could really use one06:10
dogatemycomputersoulrider: where do you live?06:10
home_yep need help06:10
soulriderUruguay =/06:10
rpgsimmasterand it's the same problem as PuppyOS 206:10
dogatemycomputerhome_: did you download it and save it to your desktop?06:10
rpgsimmasterShould I explain what happens?06:10
=== DaSkreech [n=chatzill@katapult/ninja/daskreech] has joined #kubuntu
home_cool i am in oklahoma usa'06:11
DaSkreechKnew I was missing something06:11
=== eslabon [n=santiago@190.48.5.71] has joined #kubuntu
soulridermy mom ahs a laptop, but its heavy, thick and the battery doesnt last long06:11
intelikeyrpgsimmaster as i said.  newer than anything i'm running.    and yes do splain.06:11
scififanyehaaa, home_06:11
soulrideralso, i cant put linux in it because she uses windows\06:11
rpgsimmasterright...06:11
home_no its in home folder06:11
dogatemycomputersoulrider: where do you reside?06:11
rpgsimmasterWell, I put the CD into the computer, as you do06:11
rpgsimmasterIt loads the main menu screen06:11
soulriderdogatemycomputer: Uruguay :P06:11
rpgsimmastersaying Load Kubuntu, Check CD for defects, etc.06:12
scififanmost people in oklahoma have heard tell of the intermanet thingiemajig06:12
dogatemycomputerhome_: good.. then basically.. to install any .deb file its "sudo dpkg -i <name of file here>".. does that make sense?06:12
rpgsimmasterI select the first option (load Kubuntu)06:12
rpgsimmasterit goes loading, reaches 100%06:12
=== Zackson [n=zion@200.82.222.99] has joined #kubuntu
rpgsimmasterthen goes to a black screen06:12
dogatemycomputersoulrider: i'm really sorry dude but I can't help you there.  If you were in the western US then I may be able to help..06:12
soulriderlol, its ok06:12
rpgsimmasternothing else happens06:12
intelikeyrpgsimmaster safe graphics mode.06:12
home_so i just type that in the run command thingy rite06:12
rpgsimmasterSame thing happens06:12
rpgsimmasterHappens on Puppy OS, as well06:13
dr_willisok what am i missing here. :) i expect this to just echo the dir name...       find . -type d -exec echo06:13
rpgsimmasterit loads initrd.gz, then goes kaput.06:13
dogatemycomputerhome_: well.. its easier if you do it form the konsole.. "LAUNCH->SYSTEM->KONSOLE"06:13
hitmanWillyrpgsimmaster: you may try DSL, installed that on an old Dell PII06:13
soulriderrpgsimmaster: how aobut trying Arch ?06:14
intelikeyrpgsimmaster  ok have you let it set at that point for "beleave it or not,  ten minutes"  so it can time out on the network  ?06:14
dogatemycomputerhome_: if you can find it in your file manager then simply right click on it and choose install..06:14
home_type that in run command06:14
=== sonoftheclayr [n=luke@C-61-68-139-101.bur.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu
rpgsimmasterintelikey - I left it for the best part of half an hour06:14
home_ok06:14
rpgsimmasterblank screen06:14
dogatemycomputerhome_: you can type "konsole" into the run command06:14
rpgsimmasternot even a: Kernel Panic06:14
soulrideris any if you guys having issues loggin into msn ?06:14
=== vit [n=vit@190.142.6.137] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyrpgsimmaster ok.     try adding the boot option  noacpi vga=0x0f0506:15
soulriderkopete wont connect to msn06:15
rpgsimmasterOkay...06:15
rpgsimmasterthe thing is, Kubuntu 6.06 works fine06:15
rpgsimmasteras does Ubuntu 5 point something06:15
rpgsimmasterand Knoppix06:15
rpgsimmasterand FreeNAS (though that's BSD)06:16
DaSkreechDoes 6.10 work ?06:16
soulriderdoes anyoen have any idea of how much a dvorak keyboard could cost ?\06:16
=== hendaus [n=hendaus@190.65.130.64] has joined #kubuntu
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputersoulrider: I priced one recently.. they were about the same price as a decent standard keyboard..06:16
hendaustitanix88: wb06:16
dogatemycomputersoulrider: by standard I mean qwerty..06:16
dogatemycomputerhome_: how far did you get?06:16
soulrideri wanna try them out06:16
titanix88hendaus: :)06:17
soulriderbut i think im gonna ahve to import one, i dont think ill be able to find any here06:17
rpgsimmasterBut I'll disconnect now, and try the LiveCD with your options, intelikey06:17
dogatemycomputersoulrider: I just found a few on froogle.com06:17
soulriderfinding a keyboard with an english layout was hard enough06:17
home_it wont let me download it06:17
intelikeyrpgsimmaster ok.  luck with it.06:17
dogatemycomputerhome_: I thought you downloaded it already?06:17
dogatemycomputerhome_: or are you saying you can't install it?06:17
dr_willisHmm i manged to chmod -x all the dirs.. withfind.. including ' . ' so my user just locked himself out of thedir he was in. :) Lol.06:18
rpgsimmasterThanks, and thank you for your help06:18
home_kate comes up says it is a binary file and may corrupt something06:18
intelikeyrpgsimmaster also if you have scsi devices tell me06:18
dogatemycomputerhome_: you don't want to open it..06:18
home_i know06:18
home_i havent06:18
dogatemycomputerhome_: okay.. first..  click on START/LAUNCH -> SYSTEM -> KONSOLE06:18
dogatemycomputerhome_: let me know when you get that far..06:18
home_ok06:19
=== voidmage-away is now known as voidmage
=== Kite_DH [n=Kite_DH@p57B351DE.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
home_ok06:19
dogatemycomputerhome_: okay.. now.. you see the white box.. right?06:19
home_yep06:19
intelikeykonsole defaults to white....  YUCH !06:20
dogatemycomputerhome_: okay.. type "ls" in the box and hit enter.. tell me if you see "frostwire" in the list..06:20
home_ok brb06:20
=== Lurkan [n=agsm@189.142.99.224] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyi should really go close my eyes now....06:21
home_says bash: Is: command not found06:21
dogatemycomputerhome_: LS (not IS) ;)  sorry06:21
intelikeythat's an L  not an I06:21
dogatemycomputerhome_: its case sensitive I believe.. so.. "ls" (lowercase LS)06:21
home_oh ok lol sorry06:21
intelikeyhome_ everything in the konsole is case sensitive06:22
home_ok06:22
titanix88home_:)06:22
=== pauljw [n=paul@pool207.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== rollerskatejamms [n=rollersk@pool-71-249-99-9.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
rollerskatejammsWhat's the default mail client in Kubuntu? I don't see one.06:23
home_yep and it has mp3 rocket.ink06:23
=== intelikey actually has is command on his box.
=== Andrew``{sleepz} is now known as Andrew``
dogatemycomputerhome_: okay.. good..06:23
dogatemycomputerhome_: now.. its simle..  copy and paste this "sudo dpkg -i frost*.deb" .. or type it out.. its up to you.06:23
home_its limewire06:24
dogatemycomputerhome_: ohhhh..  in that case..  lets install frostwire since its better.06:24
=== Quinn_Storm [n=quinn@pool-71-240-49-185.pitt.east.verizon.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
home_how it wont download06:24
intelikeylol06:24
dogatemycomputerhome_: so..  what you want to do is first remove the other 2 aps.  so.. type "rm lime*" and hit enter..06:24
Andrew``Ok I have a problem. I have just installed 7.04 and I neeed to install NVIDIA drivers. It needs to be root to run it. When I try to su, it says my password is incorrect. When I installed  kubuntu,(last night) I dont remember it asking me for a root password. Can anyone help me pls?06:25
home_ok brb06:25
dogatemycomputerhome_: do you have free long distance on your phone?06:25
intelikey!root | Andrew``06:25
ubotuAndrew``: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:25
DaSkreechrollerskatejamms: alt+space -> kontact06:26
rollerskatejammsDoes oKubuntu come with a mail client installed?06:26
intelikeyAndrew`` short answer.  there is no root password06:26
DaSkreechrollerskatejamms: or alt+F2 -> Kmail06:26
home_no i wish06:26
rollerskatejammsah kontact06:26
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputerhome_: did you type "rm lime*"06:26
dogatemycomputer?06:26
DaSkreechrollerskatejamms: that's mail +++06:26
rollerskatejammsDaSkreech: why isnt kmail in the menu06:26
home_yep it says06:26
intelikeyAndrew``  but the link (url)  has lots of good info for you.06:26
=== viviana [n=viviana@190.7.30.142] has joined #kubuntu
DaSkreechrollerskatejamms: To make things neater. Kontact is huge and covers many apps06:26
rollerskatejammsoh06:26
=== bomber [n=bomber@c-71-233-8-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
home_cant remove lime no such file06:27
dogatemycomputerhome_: good.. now .. lets type "rm mp3*" ("rm" is "remove" command.. fyi)06:27
rollerskatejammsbut i have a blackberry so thats basically useless to me06:27
DaSkreechWell Kontact it self isn't huge but ... yeah you get me06:27
=== david_ [n=david@pool-71-241-243-5.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
DaSkreechrollerskatejamms: Why?06:27
dogatemycomputerhome_: did you see "limewire" in the list when you typed "ls"?06:27
rollerskatejammsI think I'll stick to thunderbird06:27
david_hey you krazy kats06:27
rollerskatejammsi like thunderbird06:27
home_yes06:27
DaSkreechrollerskatejamms: You can alt+F2 and run kmail if you like06:27
david_i'm trying to install java, and i need to go down for more, but i can't fiture out howw.. any ideas?06:27
dogatemycomputerhome_: its case sensitive so if you saw "Limewire" or "LIMEWIRE" then please let me know..06:27
intelikeyrollerskatejamms you can add a menu listing for kmail06:27
DaSkreechor install thunderbird :)06:27
rollerskatejammsOr I can apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird06:27
dogatemycomputerhome_: do you have a number where i can call you?  I need to go and its easier on the phone..06:28
intelikeyrollerskatejamms no but root can.   :)06:28
rollerskatejammsfunny06:28
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@202-154-149-248.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu
david_it's in the liscense review part, it says --More-- but i can't get more06:28
home_well i gotta get to bed u going to be on tomarrow06:28
=== ubuntu_ is now known as rpgsimmaster
intelikeydavid_ tab key ?06:28
DaSkreechhome_: Bye06:29
rpgsimmasterintelikey - thanks for your help -it seems those boot options worked06:29
rpgsimmasterI am now running Kubntu 7.0406:29
rpgsimmaster:D06:29
dogatemycomputerhome_: who knows.. you have my email address so send me a number where I can get ahold of you.  Its easy but I need to give you a quick runthrough on how these commands work and then we can do it together.06:29
david_intelikey: no go, it just makes a beep and does nothing06:29
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyrpgsimmaster nice.    even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then.06:29
dogatemycomputerhome_: does that work for you?06:29
rollerskatejammsIs there an equivalent of the restricted driver manager for kubuntu06:29
intelikeydavid_ hmmmm    and you did hit enter  ?06:30
=== rpgsimmaster [n=ubuntu@202-154-149-248.ubs-dynamic.connections.net.nz] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
rollerskatejammsOk I just tried to install java5 and java6 and it failed. screw adept06:30
=== intelikey hates "more" it's so much less than less.
dogatemycomputerrollerskatejamms: yeah..06:31
david_intelikey: i love you06:31
david_intelikey: enter lolz06:31
dogatemycomputerrollerskatejamms: but I can't remember the command..06:31
intelikeydavid_ ;/06:31
david_o boy i think java installed much thanks06:32
=== michael__ [n=michael@host-253-105.ras.pdx.edu] has joined #kubuntu
=== intelikey likes "less" it's so much more than more.
dogatemycomputerrollerskatejamms: "sudo /etc/restricted-manager" I believe..06:32
=== jose [n=jose@189.6.35.219] has joined #kubuntu
=== voidmage-away is now known as voidmage
rollerskatejammsyeah restricted-manager is GTK+ though06:32
=== Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu
dogatemycomputerrollerskatejamms: sorry.. /usr/bin/restricted-manager06:32
rollerskatejammsyeah its not kubuntu though thats ubuntu. i mean i can install it but yeah . . .06:33
dogatemycomputerhome_: gotta go dude... you have my email.. feel free to send me a number and i'll call ya tomorrow..06:33
intelikeydavid_ i think you may need to run an update-alternatives configure java    or some such also.    to make that the default.06:33
klobsterintelikey: got an interesting konqueror issue if you are interested06:33
dogatemycomputerhome_: if there is another day this week that's better then that's fine too.  I would be happy to help.06:33
joseol06:34
intelikeyklobster i'm about to leave but i'll hear it.06:34
intelikey!es | jose06:34
ubotujose: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:34
josealgum pode me dizer como fao para ouvir msica pela net no KUBUNTU06:34
rollerskatejammswhats the kde q06:34
DaSkreechof?06:35
intelikeyklobster   ^   konq  Q06:35
david_intelikey: yea, frostwire's still saying i don't have it, will look into that06:35
klobsteranother time; it's prettylengthy,06:35
=== hara [n=hara@dsl-tregw2-feeedf00-132.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu
klobsterpretty lengthy06:35
=== Zackson [n=zion@200.82.222.99] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeydavid_ i've only seen others do that.  i don't mess with java personally06:35
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@59.93.112.192] has joined #kubuntu
DaSkreechDo you still have to do that sudo update-alternatives ?06:36
intelikeyklobster intelikey.pastebin.us     and i'll look tomarrow.     sign your post with your nick.06:36
=== Zambezi [n=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #kubuntu
klobsterintelikey: will do06:37
intelikeyDaSkreech he just said that frost wasn't finding it.  so i guess you do.06:37
ubuntu_hai every one06:37
intelikeyDaSkreech you can help him ?06:37
DaSkreechI don't remember it :)06:38
intelikey!java06:38
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:38
DaSkreech!alternatives06:38
ubotuTo change the default applications system-wide, use 'sudo update-alternatives --all' in a terminal.06:38
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@cpe-70-115-161-209.rgv.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
rollerskatejammsHey whats like beagle for kde06:38
intelikeywell that's handy as the pocket on a shirt.06:39
=== zerozero [n=zerozero@unaffiliated/zerozero] has joined #kubuntu
intelikeyok latter fellaws.06:39
DaSkreechdavid_: sudo update-alternatives java I think06:40
ubuntu_hello any one care to chat06:40
=== Kaisho [n=josh@d150-55-54.home.cgocable.net] has joined #kubuntu
klobsterubuntu_ try #ubuntu-offtopic for "chatting"06:40
klobster!offtopic06:40
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!06:40
ubuntu_i am new here06:41
DaSkreechrollerskatejamms: strigi right now I think06:41
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.124.93] has joined #kubuntu
Kaishohey does any one know how to get to undernet i am interested in getting some ebooks06:41
ubuntu_dont know anybody here06:41
DaSkreechubuntu_: What's up?06:41
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
klobsterwelcome to IRC, or kubuntu (or KDE?)06:41
KaishoAny one ??06:42
ubuntu_hi kaisho06:42
DaSkreechubuntu_: You don't need to know anyone.06:42
DaSkreech If you have a question you can ask it06:42
DaSkreech If you want to learn just hang around06:42
Kaishohey06:43
klobsterhttp://www.google.com/search?q=undernet+ebooks&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=Swiftfox:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a06:43
klobsterkaisho ^^06:43
DaSkreech if you want to chat about something type /join #kubuntu-offtopic06:43
=== mindslant is now known as [mindlant|away]
dogatemycomputer           mm,06:43
klobsteroops I should have cut out the browser info06:44
Kaishothank you06:44
dr_willisgee i can find ebooks without undernet. :) legalones even06:44
titanix88Kaisho: i would like to.06:44
=== hangthedj [n=root@Wheeler-pbdsl3.Stanford.EDU] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88hendaus: still there?06:45
hendaus:)06:46
hendaustitanix88:  yes06:46
titanix88hendaus: read "man 1 intro" ?06:46
hendausnot all06:46
=== droach [n=droach@68-112-73-115.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
david_Amarok: does anyone know the difference between Smart playlists and dynamic playlists?06:47
titanix88hendaus: at least got the idea,didn't u?06:47
=== alex_ [n=alex@c-24-99-36-62.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== hilz [n=hilz@ip72-205-25-236.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
hendaustitanix88:  i have download a file .bin,how can i install it06:48
dr_williswhat is this .bin anyway?06:49
dr_willischmod +x whatever.bin  then ./whatever.bin06:49
hendausdr_willis:  jre-6u1-linux-i586-rpm.bin06:49
dr_willisYou do realize that java is in the repos?06:49
=== pauljw [n=paul@pool116.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisand that bin will just make a .rpm for you to then install?06:50
dr_willisor at least thats how sun used to work with the rpm.bin stuff06:50
hendausdr_willis:  no i got it from a plugin from firefox?06:50
dr_willishendaus,  you are going about it the wrong way to get java installed then06:50
=== dr_willis wishes firefox would stop doing that stuff. :)
dr_willis!java06:50
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:50
hendausdr_willis:  i try to open a picture from a website , but it needs this java plugin06:51
dr_willishendaus,  thats scary that it needs java for a picture.06:51
hendausdr_willis:  i open a website, and in the picture shows:click to download plugin06:52
david_hendaus, there is a non-rpm binary on java's website06:53
dr_willishendaus,  and 'click to download the plugin' is the WRONG way to install it system wide for kubuntu/ubuntu06:53
dr_willisim not even sure it would work for a single user. :)06:54
david_in general, getting java installed is confusing06:54
=== svetlio [n=svetlio@ns1.metincom.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== mendred [n=mendred@59.93.95.190] has joined #kubuntu
hendausdr_willis: it is java runtime environment06:54
david_eg: i was able to install it enough for frostwire to load, but not enough to load the java test page06:54
=== Zambezi [i=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== svetlio is now known as Zvezdichko
klobsterdidn't SUN make a custom java for us *buntites?06:55
dr_willishendaus,  i know what it is.. you dont want to 'click to install the plugin' it wont work that way.06:55
dr_willishendaus,  you should use the package manager to install it from the deb packages.06:55
hendausdr_willis: what is the name of this plugin to install it from adept06:56
dr_willis!java06:56
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.06:56
dr_willissun-java5-jre    like the bot says. :) or is it java6 now?06:56
dr_willis!find java06:56
ubotuFound: gcj, gcj-4.1, gij, gij-4.1, java-common (and 272 others)06:56
dr_willis!find sun-java5-jre06:56
ubotuFound: sun-java5-jre06:56
dr_willis!info sun-java5-jre06:56
ubotusun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-11-1ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 7287 kB, installed size 16168 kB06:56
dr_willis!info sun-java6-jre06:56
ubotusun-java6-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6-00-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 6176 kB, installed size 14148 kB06:56
hitmanWillydr_willis: i think its 6 these days06:56
dr_willishitmanWilly,  yea - thats what i was thinking also.06:57
dr_willisbut imnot sure what the diffs are really06:57
hitmanWillyme neither06:57
dr_willissudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre06:57
=== hitmanWilly is not a java developer
=== luiz [n=luiz@20151064046.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu
=== ritalin [n=chad@74-133-169-77.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisi can barely write helloworld.c07:00
dr_willis:)07:00
ritalinno package for opera?07:00
dr_willisactually i cant..07:00
dr_willisritalin,  i think there maybe some at an unofficial repo..or get the deb from the oprea site07:00
dr_willis!oprea07:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about oprea - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:00
dr_willis!opra07:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:01
=== dr_willis gives up
=== titanix88_ [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
ritalin!opera07:01
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser07:01
titanix88_hendaus: me back.so how is ur feeling abt linux command line?07:02
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
=== _aib [n=aib@vpn-dhcp-54.colorado.edu] has joined #kubuntu
=== mo0osah [n=mo0osah@cpe-70-112-190-82.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
hendaustitanix88 which linux command line ?07:05
hendausdr_willis:  thanx, i am getting this sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin07:05
titanix88_hendaus: "man 1 intro" i'm talking about.07:06
hendausdr_willis:  the second problem on me i cant getallfiles from my nokia 6230 cellphone07:06
titanix88_hendaus: why java?07:06
=== mendred [n=mendred@59.93.95.190] has joined #kubuntu
hendaustitanix88 yes its wonderful but i didnot finish yet07:06
klobsteronce you get the jre, how would I get swiftfox to use it?07:06
=== e1mer [n=elmer@tequilla.exist.com] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisit should see it when it loads up07:07
hendaustitanix88 java for opening images from website07:07
titanix88_hendaus: get it.07:07
hendausdr_willis:  do u know about gnokii?07:07
dr_willishendaus,  never heard of it07:08
hendaustitanix88 did u got the slution for me of --getallfiles?07:08
=== titanix88_ [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
hendauswb titanix8807:09
hendaustitanix88 did u got the slution for me of --getallfiles?07:09
=== greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== firecrotch [n=nick@adsl-69-210-57-200.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== firecrotch [n=nick@adsl-69-210-57-200.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has left #kubuntu []
titanix88_hendaus: no. maybe i can't it's out of my scope or ur phone doesn't support file transferring with gnokii.07:11
=== firecrotch [n=nick@adsl-69-210-57-200.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu
hendaustitanix88 no way ,but it is working with sending smsmessages and dialvoice07:12
=== CaptainApathy [n=mschaadt@c-69-245-249-30.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_hendaus: that's good :)07:13
=== _czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-039-153.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== hgarcia [n=hgarcia@69-12-227-88.dynamic.sn.garlic.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== firecrotch [n=nick@adsl-69-210-57-200.dsl.milwwi.ameritech.net] has left #kubuntu []
=== CaptainApathy just got beryl up and working... woo
titanix88_CaptainApathy: they don't support dapper07:16
titanix88_CaptainApathy: >(07:16
hgarciahas anyone updated kde before?07:16
hendausdr_willis:  ok done the sun java, and i try to refresh the website and the picture says click to install plugin07:16
DaSkreechI have updated before07:17
hgarciais it hard?07:17
DaSkreechhgarcia: no07:17
dr_willishendaus,  dont 'refresh' - CLOSE the browser07:17
titanix88_hendaus: restart the browser.07:17
=== carutsu [n=carutsu@201.140.30.225] has joined #kubuntu
=== jonasp [i=jonas@i59F7066F.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== Ibraheem [i=Ibraheem@58.65.223.103] has joined #kubuntu
Ibraheemhow to change spaceing between icons07:18
hgarciado you know any good websites that tell you step by step to update kde?07:18
NoldoaranCaptainApathy: awesome!07:19
crimsunhgarcia: update kde from what to what?07:19
DaSkreechhgarcia: What are you updating to?07:19
hgarciaI would like to get the lasted one07:19
CaptainApathytitanix88_: I didn't know they don't support dapper... but then again... I've been using feisty since the first release candidate or so...07:19
crimsunhgarcia: right, and did you follow the directions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-357.php ?07:19
hendausdr_willis:  it cannot open :(07:20
titanix88_CaptainApathy: it supports in a manner of alot of crash.07:20
dr_willishendaus,  try some othe rsites with java07:20
Ibraheemhow to increase decrease space between icons on file browser or desktop07:20
=== mendred [n=mendred@59.93.95.190] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_hendaus: maybe u need to install flashplugin-nonfree package.07:21
hgarciathanks for the website07:21
CaptainApathytitanix88_:  ouch07:21
CaptainApathybye07:21
dr_willishendaus, ya could post the url of that site07:21
=== v0taguz_ [n=votaguz@190.65.6.218] has joined #kubuntu
=== rossco [n=ross@C-61-69-182-243.syd.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_dr_willis: don't u think lack of flash plugin is causing this?07:24
Ibraheemhow to increase decrease space between icons on file browser or desktop in kde07:25
titanix88_Ibraheem: kcontrolcenter->apperens->icons07:25
titanix88_hendaus:07:26
Ibraheemtitanix88_ there is option to change icons size. but not spaces between them07:26
hendaustitanix88_:  iinstalled flashplugin, let me see now07:26
hendaustitanix88_:  it doesnot open :(07:28
titanix88_Ibraheem: despite so many features kde still lack some important one(like k submenu scrolling :(07:28
Ibraheemtitanix88_ so what can i do. any opti?ons07:28
titanix88_hendaus: using konquerer?07:28
titanix88_Ibraheem: don't know.07:29
Ibraheemk07:29
mendredhi how does one speed up openoffice startup in kde?07:30
titanix88_hendaus: if konquerer then Settings->Configure Konquerer->Plugins->Scan for new plugins.07:31
=== n8k99 is now known as n8k99_away
klobsteribraheem: system settings => appearance/Icons: Advanced, then change size?07:32
=== ZoKeBeR [n=ZoKeBeR@190.72.148.16] has joined #kubuntu
klobstermendred: prelink or preload, thats about it, there may be a built in preloader in OO.org07:33
Ibraheemklobster no. thats icons size. i wnat to change space between icons07:33
titanix88_hendaus: also try installing "flashplayer-mozilla"07:33
klobsteribraheem: I am not sure that is an option I have seen on any DE...07:34
hendaustitanix88_:  when i click on the image it says that it needs : java runtime environment07:34
=== tjl is now known as stylus
Ibraheemklobster whats the best file browser for kde?07:35
klobsterIMO, Konqueror, for it's versatility.07:35
klobsterbut  pretty much use ls for that07:36
titanix88_hendaus: in Settings->Configure Konquerer->java&javascript enable tem both07:36
klobsteribraheem ^^07:36
klobster!opinion07:37
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about opinion - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:37
klobsterworth a shot07:37
Ibraheemklobster ^ ?07:37
klobsteribraheem ^^ = see above for reply07:37
Ibraheemklobster Konqueror, for it's versatility.?07:38
hendaustitanix88_:  i have download java from here -> http://java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=java.com:8007:39
titanix88_hendaus: tried that & restarted konq?07:39
klobsteribraheem yeah, it does web browsing, files, previews, full vews on text pdf pics, etc.  it's feature packed"07:40
hendaustitanix88_:  i did it, and it says on konqueror it nees to install the plugin07:40
Ibraheemklobster but it doesnt gives icon spacing option.07:40
=== nonox [n=seppo@a84-231-163-207.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu
Ibraheemklobster what are your views about dollphin?07:40
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_hendaus : install sun-java5-jre from repository. it's lot more complicated to do the way u did.07:41
=== DaSkreech doesn't like dolphin
=== DaSkreech goes back to ignoring the room
klobsteribraheem dunno yet07:41
=== voidmage-away is now known as voidmage
klobsteribraheem to lazy to install it just to play critic07:42
hendaustitanix88_:  i did it, and the samething07:42
hendaustitanix88_:  now tell me how can i nstall this--> jre-6u1-linux-i586.bin07:42
titanix88_hendaus : or maybe install sun-java6-jre from repository.07:43
hendaustitanix88_:  i did it07:44
=== RawSewage [n=ShadyTre@67-42-182-230.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #Kubuntu
hendaustitanix88_: jre-6u1-linux-i586.bin <-- how can i install this07:44
=== Ibraheem thanks all and leave after a wave with smile
titanix88_hendaus: ./jre-6u1-linux-i586.bin07:44
titanix88_hendaus sorry"bash ./jre-6u1-linux-i586.bin"07:45
hendaustitanix88_:  bash: ./jre-6u1-linux-i586.bin: No such file or directory07:46
=== xardias [n=xardias@xdsl-87-78-124-250.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_hendaus: where did u keep it (i asumed u were in home directory & u put that there)07:47
=== hoora_91 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-3445d994dbaa6f44] has joined #kubuntu
hendaustitanix88_:  ok now yes07:47
=== hoora_91 [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-3445d994dbaa6f44] has left #kubuntu []
=== huashuai [n=huashuai@213.101.209.237] has joined #kubuntu
hendaustitanix88_:  :( the samething :(((07:50
titanix88_hendaus: installed & working?07:50
titanix88_hendaus: restart u computer(that's what they said in tha site)07:51
=== durpa [n=chatzill@d207-216-249-182.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_sorry mean browser.07:51
hendaustitanix88_:  it says: click to install plugin07:52
=== sivaji [n=sivaji@122.164.48.23] has joined #kubuntu
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_hendaus: rescaned ur plugins in konq?07:53
=== arafat [n=arafat@ppp-82-135-82-80.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== sheldonc [n=sheldon@209.121.11.187] has joined #kubuntu
=== rossco [n=ross@C-61-69-182-243.syd.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== Adlai [n=leif@c-24-4-99-215.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== DarkED [n=darked@h460ad7df.area7.spcsdns.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== blekos [n=blekos@ppp122-115.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu
RawSewageyou shouldnt have to install any .bin or do anything weird08:03
RawSewageusually if it's getting confusing, youre doing something wrong08:03
=== michael__ [n=michael@pool-71-120-235-151.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
RawSewageif you're using Feisty , that is08:04
=== stylus [i=stylus@freenode/helper/stylus] has joined #kubuntu
=== christian______ [n=christia@e180064128.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_RawSewage: but even installing from a .bin is not recommended in GNU/Linux they say u to compile from source :)08:05
=== jrenato [n=jrenato@201-75-100-138-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #kubuntu
=== DarkED [n=darked@h460ad7df.area7.spcsdns.net] has joined #kubuntu
RawSewageI never compile08:06
RawSewageI just use whats in the repos08:06
RawSewageIm boring08:06
titanix88_RawSewage: somtimes compiling works. but sometimes not. but most .bin works very good. i usually dload large games like 'battle for wesnoth ' in .bin cause they are updated than repos.08:07
RawSewageoh08:08
RawSewagebut08:08
DaSkreechtitanix88_: but they work from the repos :)08:08
RawSewagewhy cant you just use apt-get install08:08
RawSewageapt-cache search wesnoth08:09
=== DarkED [n=darked@h460ad7df.area7.spcsdns.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== makuseru [n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_RawSewage: just "bash PATH/something.bin" & it installs checking everything.08:09
=== Joxam [n=james@207-118-210-194.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #kubuntu
DaSkreech!info wesnoth08:10
ubotuwesnoth: fantasy turn-based strategy game. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.2.3-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1937 kB, installed size 4396 kB08:10
=== mendred [n=mendred@59.93.95.190] has joined #kubuntu
Joxamhey, I need to be able to edit a document in console08:10
JoxamI forgot how08:10
Joxamand am drinking08:10
Joxamtell me08:10
=== DarkED [n=darked@h460ad7df.area7.spcsdns.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_RawSewage: cause official packages maintainers r months behind original developers(so most of the time u install old versions)that's bad for games at least :)08:11
RawSewageok08:11
RawSewageIve never heard of that game. looks good08:11
DaSkreechJoxam: nano documentnamehere08:11
DaSkreechRawSewage: one of the best08:11
RawSewagehm08:12
DaSkreechtitanix88_: it's not all that bad :)08:12
titanix88_RawSewage: somtimes u don't even need to bother about installing just ungip precompiled binary in a folder & it works like:blender 3d & Nexuiz08:12
RawSewageim listening to the FF II soundtrack now08:12
=== DarkED [n=darked@h460ad7df.area7.spcsdns.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Sup3rkiddo [n=sudharsh@59.92.70.68] has joined #kubuntu
=== zig-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Sup3rkiddo [n=sudharsh@59.92.70.68] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"]
=== SSJ_GZ [n=SSJ@host-84-9-146-235.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== hendaus [n=hendaus@190.65.130.64] has joined #kubuntu
=== michael__ is now known as Jack3
=== brlnd [n=brlnd@61.185.243.250] has joined #kubuntu
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.120.75] has joined #kubuntu
=== Andrew`` [n=andrew@202.43.231.52] has joined #kubuntu
=== sivaji is now known as sivaji_2009
=== kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-60-144-8.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``I am trying to install Nvidia drivers but it says I have a GUI running and will need to stop it. How do I do that?08:22
titanix88_Everybody silent?08:22
=== sivaji_2009 is now known as sivaji
Admiral_ChicagoAndrew``: logout of KDE, log back in a fail safe terminal08:22
=== sivaji is now known as sivaji2009
Andrew``ahh thanks Admiral_Chicago08:23
=== tahsin [n=tahsin@202.56.7.138] has joined #kubuntu
Admiral_Chicagonp08:24
titanix88_Andrew``: trying from that .bin aren't u?08:24
tahsincan i get more softwares on adept installer ?08:25
titanix88_Andrew``: dont try it. it will probably brake the system.08:25
sivaji2009tahsin yes just add repo08:26
tahsinsivaji2009: how do i do taht?08:26
tahsinthat08:26
=== zerbero_1 [n=jga@pd9e63f18.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== user_ [n=user@196.218.60.222] has joined #kubuntu
sivaji2009tahsin : http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty08:27
user_hi08:27
user_anyone there08:27
user_can i ask about soething08:27
=== packetmonster [n=anthony@159.168.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
tahsinthatsicaji2009: i think i already added repos08:27
sivaji2009!ask | user_08:27
ubotuuser_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:27
user_ok08:27
user_lol08:27
tahsinthatsicaji2009: i have many softwares on adept manager but not too many on adept installer (add/remove programee)08:28
user_i download the live cd backtrac and when i boot it with my ubuntu,,,,it say unknow key work in config file,,could not find kerenel image?????????????08:28
user_the backtrack2 live cd08:29
=== Andrew`` [n=andrew@202.43.231.52] has joined #kubuntu
user_???08:29
Andrew``ok I tried installing it, but it came back with an error... says I need the libc header files. I tried to search through adept installer but it found nothing... can anyone help?08:31
=== gerbilshiny is now known as shinygerbil
=== tschentz [n=tschentz@dslb-084-058-155-112.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== hara [n=hara@dsl-tregw2-feeedf00-132.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu
sivaji2009Andrew`` what u tried to install08:33
Andrew``nvidia drivers08:33
=== user_ [n=user@196.218.60.222] has joined #kubuntu
Admiral_Chicago!nvidia08:34
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:34
=== asunto [n=asunto@cs181121067.pp.htv.fi] has joined #kubuntu
user_any help with that backtrack08:34
Admiral_ChicagoAndrew``: maybe that link has better suppot...08:34
user_i lost my connnection here08:34
=== rossco [n=ross@C-61-69-182-243.syd.connect.net.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== rhapsodie [n=rhapsodi@91.164.106.218] has joined #kubuntu
user_ubotu.....................08:34
user_u get my question?08:35
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
klobsteruser_ what is the question?08:38
tahsinklobster: i have many softwares on adept manager but not too many on adept installer (add/remove programee)08:38
tahsinklobster: how do i get more softwares on add/remove programme08:38
klobstertahsin is that two different questions?08:39
tahsinklobster: same question08:39
=== DinK[UK] [n=DinK[UK] @cpc2-clif3-0-0-cust121.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
klobsteroh, I see sorry i never used the add/remove programmes.  lets see (gimme a moment)08:40
tahsinklobster: sure08:41
=== DinK[UK] [n=DinK[UK] @cpc2-clif3-0-0-cust121.nott.cable.ntl.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
klobsterdid you check the boxes for proprietary and unsupported software? did you select any suite?  that should do it...08:44
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@85-218-14-125.dclient.lsne.ch] has joined #kubuntu
tahsinlet me try08:45
sivaji2009!pastebin08:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)08:45
=== rpedro__ [n=rpedro@87-196-10-32.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ is now known as rama
tahsinklobster: thanks now i have plenty08:46
klobsterno prob08:47
=== rama [n=ubuntu@wikipedia/rama] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== DinK[UK] [n=DinK@cpc2-clif3-0-0-cust121.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Darkkish [n=nick@c-24-19-24-147.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== rdallarmi [n=rdallarm@72.Red-88-1-230.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== W1ZrD [n=rrrrrr@e83-245-152-74.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
W1ZrDIs there a program that easily converts from .mp3, to .wav in kubuntu?08:56
titanix88hendaus:08:56
=== zig-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== oliver_ [n=oliver@p3EE38C47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
RawSewagemp3 to wav08:57
W1ZrDRawSewage: yes08:57
oliver_hi, and good morning to all08:58
RawSewageW1ZrD, soundkonverter08:58
titanix88W1ZrD: install soundKonverter.it ROCKS!08:58
titanix88oliver_: good noon!08:58
tahsinW1ZrD: is there a network monitor applet for KDE ?08:58
W1ZrDRawSewage, titanix88, thank's, I'll take a look at it08:58
=== Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-234-25.googlewifi.com] has joined #kubuntu
W1ZrDtahsin: yes, there is08:59
tahsinW1ZrD: how do i get it ?08:59
oliver_can someone help with to fix a boot problem ??08:59
titanix88W1ZrD: as far as i it supports at least 12 formats!!09:00
tahsintitanix88: how do i get a network monitor applet ?09:00
=== Cavallek [n=dev@193.95.229.168] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88tahsin: in kubuntu?09:00
tahsintitanix88: YES !09:01
ritalinhey hey you you09:01
ritalini could be your girlfriend09:01
=== jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== dhq [n=dhq@unaffiliated/dhq] has joined #kubuntu
tahsintitanix88: is it possible ?09:02
=== sepeck [n=sepeck@054.172-78-65.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88tahsin : add applet to panel system monitor. then u will have to configure it's graph.09:02
DinK[UK] tahsin: sudo apt-get install knemo09:03
tahsintitanix88: there is no system monitor09:03
=== aliho [n=nick@ppp-69-239-105-115.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu
tahsinlet me try DinKUk09:04
titanix88tahsin: A Ksystem monitor no?09:04
oliver_can someone help to fix a boot problem ??09:04
tahsintitanix88: yup09:04
=== computer [n=computer@c-71-198-250-117.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
rdallarmihi, I am running postfix chrooted and I am trying to do sasl authentication using authdeamond. I am getting the error: warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to Courier authdaemond: No such file or directory. Authdeamond socket is (ubuntu) in /var/run/courier/authdeamond/socket I granted rwx permission trough all that path and linked /car/run/courier/authdeamond to /var/spool/postfix and specified09:05
rdallarmiauthdaemond_path: /authdaemon/socket in smtpd.conf, but I got that error. It is bvious I am doing something wrong. Anybody has any idea?09:05
titanix88tahsin: actually ksys gaurd :)09:05
computerhello09:05
tahsintitanix88: oh lol09:05
=== rhapsodie_ [n=rhapsodi@dyn-83-154-28-11.ppp.tiscali.fr] has joined #kubuntu
computerhow do i download a .deb file from konquerer without kate opening it up as text file...09:06
sivaji2009!ssh09:06
ubotuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/09:06
=== lemuelf [n=lemuelf@213.132.40.2] has joined #kubuntu
computerhi, how do i download a .deb file from konquerer without kate opening it up as text file...09:07
computero nvm, save link as...09:07
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@202.63.116.114] has joined #kubuntu
computerhmm what are .deb files, can i execute them as a program?09:09
titanix88open ksysgaurd ->new worksheet->drop a network sensor from left sensor browser.09:09
=== anne_ [i=anne@dsl-kpogw5-fe63df00-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu
=== lemuelf [n=lemuelf@213.132.40.2] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
titanix88computer: no u can't.09:10
computertitanix88 cool thx, good to know, do i extract the .deb file?09:11
=== mendred [n=mendred@59.93.95.190] has joined #kubuntu
=== anne_ [i=anne@dsl-kpogw5-fe63df00-102.dhcp.inet.fi] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== DinK[UK] is away: Gone away for now.
titanix88computer: u can do that but will be no use(unless u r a package maintainer).u will have to install it.09:12
=== ignazio [n=ignazio@host-84-223-13-82.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #kubuntu
W1ZrDtitanix88: I can't get the SoundKonverter to work09:14
W1ZrDtitanix88: When I enter a .mp3 as source and .wav as Output, I never get the option to start the convert09:15
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
=== DinK[UK] is back.
W1ZrDSorry, I repeat that again..09:15
ritalinthank god DinK[UK] 09:15
W1ZrDtitanix88: When I enter a .mp3 as source and .wav as Output, I never get the option to start the convert09:15
ritalini was worried sick09:15
ritalin;)09:15
DinK[UK] :o09:15
titanix88W1ZrD:simple tab->add files09:17
titanix88W1ZrD: output format -> wav09:17
computertitanix88 hmm so how do i run the program from the .deb file, or how do i run the program at all09:17
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
W1ZrDtitanix88: I have added the .mp3 source files, set an output directory for the .wav files, but the "start convert" is greyed out09:18
titanix88W1ZrD:out put will be in the songs directory(by default).09:18
W1ZrDtitanix88: Do I need some plug-ins/codecs/magic before it works?09:19
=== MrDigimon [n=MrDigimo@f244.ip7.netikka.fi] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88computer: not every .deb contains runnable files & to install it graphically just by double clicking it, i recommend u install gdebi(although it's a kde channel :)09:20
MrDigimonHow do i do to fix this error in WolfET:09:20
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:20
=== kgarrod [n=keith@dsl-241-93-126.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
Admiral_Chicagocomputer: in a konsole, cd Desktop (if its on the desktop) then do sudo dpkg -i *.deb09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
W1ZrD!pastebin < MrDigimon09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
titanix88W1ZrD:settings->configure sount konverter ->En,decoder see if there is lame.09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
W1ZrDMrDigimon: Please stop09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
titanix88W1ZrD: for mp3.09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:21
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:22
felzixWhy does my bash script work fine from a terminal but not when I activate it in konqueror?09:22
DinK[UK] stop the spamming you wont get help that way!!09:22
MrDigimonXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".09:22
MrDigimonCouldn't get a visual09:22
MrDigimon...WARNING: could not set the given mode (3)09:22
MrDigimon----- CL_Shutdown -----09:22
MrDigimonRE_Shutdown( 1 )09:22
MrDigimon-----------------------09:22
MrDigimon----- CL_Shutdown -----09:22
MrDigimon-----------------------09:22
MrDigimonSys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem09:22
Darkkishhow do i upgrade from 6.06 to 7.04?09:22
Admiral_Chicago!op09:22
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, or nixternal09:22
=== asunto [n=asunto@cs181121067.pp.htv.fi] has joined #kubuntu
MrDigimonW1ZrD: i just asked why my comp does this when i try to play wolet09:22
felzixdarkkish: there should be an upgrade option in adept_manager09:22
Admiral_Chicago!upgrade > Darkkish09:22
Darkkishfelzix: it's not working09:22
Admiral_ChicagoDarkkish: check out that pm09:22
=== mode/#kubuntu [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ
titanix88MrDigimon: don't u know about paste bin? >(09:23
=== MrDigimon [n=MrDigimo@f244.ip7.netikka.fi] has left #kubuntu [requested]
W1ZrDMrDigimon: you can you the PasteBin to paste large texts, so that you don't flood this channel09:23
W1ZrDThank you dear lord ;)09:23
felzixdarkkish: :(  sorry, but I can't help, then.  I just burned the CD when it came out 'cause I wanted a quick copy for later installations09:23
DinK[UK] :D09:23
=== savetheWorld [n=Lester@c-24-62-225-133.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
Hobbseegood god.  read the frickign topic, else i'll shoot you.09:23
Hobbseeor i'll make mneptok do it.09:23
=== MrDigimon [n=MrDigimo@f244.ip7.netikka.fi] has joined #kubuntu
RawSewagelol09:23
=== pawittp is now known as pawitp
W1ZrDShooting Spammers (c) Hobbsee09:24
HobbseeMrDigimon: before you enter a channel, please READ THE TOPIC.  It has USEFUL information in it that WILL help you.09:24
=== skyion [n=exon@c1-158-13.nngy.isadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu
=== mneptok [n=mneptok@canonical/support/mneptok] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88W1ZrD:working now?09:24
W1ZrDtitanix88: I have the plugins, like lame, ogg, gogo, and so on...but still no joy09:25
titanix88MrDigimon using beryl?09:25
=== thomax [n=thomas@217-148-245-253.happymany.net] has joined #kubuntu
MrDigimondont think so09:25
titanix88W1ZrD: it works for me !!09:26
W1ZrDMrDigimon: you can join #kubuntu-fi or #ubuntu-fi if you want help in finnish09:26
W1ZrDtitanix88: This is really weird, it should work, I can see that :)09:26
MrDigimonno thx, i dont speak finnish that good09:26
computertitanix88 and Admiral_Chicago thx for the tips, sorry was afk earlier09:26
=== mneptok pastes Hobbsee to the wall
Hobbseeyay, mneptok :)09:27
W1ZrDMrDigimon: haha, ok, thought since your ISP was finnish :)09:27
Admiral_Chicagocomputer: np good luck.09:27
=== Admiral_Chicago goes to bed.
MrDigimoni speak swedish and english but im horrible at finnish lol09:27
W1ZrDMrDigimon: Same here, even though I've studied finnish, it's horrible language to learn ;)09:28
W1ZrDAnyways, I'm off to bed, take care everyone09:28
titanix88W1ZrD: i know one wired problem when u select output to other than source directory.09:28
W1ZrDtitanix88: yes?09:28
sivaji2009how to start shh server09:28
sivaji2009ssh09:28
computeri used dpkg on "envy" the program that installs nvidia drivers, it said: build-essential not installed, xserver-sorg-dev not installed, fakerroot not installed and a bunch of other stuff, where do i get these  to install =)09:28
fdovingcomputer: you can use aptitude or adept, for example. those are package names.09:29
mneptokcomputer: why not just use the repo drivers?09:29
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-22.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
MrDigimonis the swedish chatroom #kubuntu-se then or something like that09:29
titanix88W1ZrD; An output format to 'wav' not 'wv'09:29
sivaji2009how to start ssh server09:29
W1ZrDMrDigimon: Indeed it is09:29
MrDigimonok09:29
MrDigimonthx09:29
titanix88MrDigimon: xmoto rocks!09:29
computermneptok completely new picking up ubuntu again, forgot all of what i did b4 except it took a long time lol =) so looiing for shortcuts09:29
mneptoksivaji2009: just install it09:29
=== Fri13 [n=paristo@cs181179233.pp.htv.fi] has joined #kubuntu
MrDigimoni know titanix8809:30
mneptokcomputer: System>Admin>Restricted drivels manager09:30
mneptokHA! "drivers"09:30
computerfdoving is there a typical single program that if i install would automatically install all those packages as prereques?09:30
mneptok*fab* typo, though09:30
=== _soo [n=dac@tx-76-6-81-107.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #kubuntu
fdovingcomputer: yes, but you don't want that.09:30
titanix88MrDigimon: only the engine sound seems like someones having a hard time in toilet :)09:31
MrDigimonlol09:31
computerfdoving so i have to type each package name, find it, and then tell adept to install right09:31
mneptokcomputer: System>Admin>Restricted drivers manager09:31
Hobbseemneptok: it's kde09:31
computermneptok o, cool09:31
fdovingcomputer: right, build-essential and xserver-xorg-dev09:31
titanix88MrDigimon: played Nexuiz?09:31
MrDigimontitanix88: maybe u could mod it so it sounds better09:31
mneptokHobbsee: ah, right09:31
MrDigimonno i havent played09:31
=== Der_Dude [n=babel@p54814f3b.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
Hobbseemneptok: it doesnt exist.09:31
computerfdoving *shudders* o god lol, there's like 20 of them =)09:32
Hobbseemneptok: searching in adept and installing from there is the correct solution.09:32
W1ZrDtitanix88: It doesn't matter if I want them as .ogg or .wav, the option to start the convert is constantly greyed out...so I give up for today and try it again next century09:32
computermneptok yeah i use kde too, continue to do what u suggested right09:32
mneptokcomputer: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx09:32
Hobbseemneptok: someone's writing one09:32
fdovingcomputer: it is? can you pastebin the error ?09:32
titanix88W1ZrD: see u.09:32
computeryeah09:32
computer!pastebin09:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)09:32
W1ZrDtitanix88: thank's for the help though, take care..09:32
DarkkishMy friend is having trouble upgrading from dapper to edgy for some reason09:32
computerjust checking what the web address was09:32
computerone sec09:32
computerfdoving : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23842/09:33
titanix88Darkkish: edgy is buggy tell her/him not to. upgrade dapper. it helped me a lot(it became faster)09:33
fdovingcomputer: ah, that error, 'sudo apt-get -f install'09:34
computerfdoving ah i guess not 20 of them, just the error message spanned more than 20 lines09:34
Darkkishtitanix88: he has to upgrade to edgy in order to upgrade to feisty.09:34
Hobbseedapper's kde is very outdated, and doesnt get the latest updates.09:34
Hobbseeand is not receiving updates09:34
computercool09:34
computerwhat's the f flag do09:34
computer*typing* afk one sec09:34
mneptokDapper's KDE is from 192709:34
fdovingHobbsee: dapper is still supported. it's LTS :)09:34
Hobbseefdoving: sure, but we're not building the latest kde versions for it.  security fixes only.09:35
computerfdoving wow nice it should work now09:35
fdovingcomputer: yep, it should :)09:35
fdovingHobbsee: correct :)09:35
computerfdoving i just installed edgy like 2 hrs ago, it's completely new as in nothing installed, is there other things like this i should get?09:35
=== mike [n=mike@chello080109107247.1.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu
Darkkishtitanix88: he has to upgrade to edgy in order to upgrade to feisty.09:36
mneptokcomputer: yeah. Feisty. ;)09:36
computermneptok lol a lil afraid to go feisty, is it at any rate error prone?09:36
mneptokcomputer: no more so than Edgy09:36
=== defcon_ [n=defcon@VDSL-130-13-152-155.PHNX.QWEST.NET] has joined #kubuntu
Hobbseeit's less buggy than edgy09:37
=== AutoMatriX [n=marcus@d83-182-255-156.cust.tele2.be] has joined #kubuntu
Hobbseeand you can actually get the latest kde releases for it, as shown in the topic09:37
fdovingcomputer: i always install: screen, kismet, netwox, netcat, lft, nmap, mailody, dolphin and kuickshow among otherthings.09:37
computerhmm tempted09:37
computerfdoving cool thx, copy pasting that list as of now =)09:37
ritalinwhich one is the install cd for?09:37
titanix88Darkkish: insted of upgrading this way tell him to get a non live feisty cd & then burn the .iso & add it to repository. then dist upgrade. it will upgrade directly (not sure though)09:37
ritalincause thats hwat im on09:37
computerfdoving btw how do i uninstall what i installed using dpkg09:38
=== kalenedrael [n=kalene@c-24-60-144-8.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
fdovingcomputer: i guess you won't need kismet netwox netcat lft nor nmap. if you don't do network and security things.09:38
AutoMatriXHi folks .... problem : dell latitude ls400 wher can I find the refresh rate of the monitor ?09:38
ritalinthis great site i heard about09:38
ritalinwww.google.com09:38
ritalin;)09:38
computerfdoving i don't lol, *deleting* list as we speak =)09:38
fdovingcomputer: i use aptitude from the commandline, like 'sudo aptitude install list of packages separated by spaces'09:38
titanix88computer: "sudo dpkg -r packagename"09:38
computertitanix88 ah cool thx09:38
computerfdoving and thx for earlier tips as well =)09:39
fdovingcomputer: dolphin, kuickshow and mailody are still nice :)09:39
AutoMatriXHi folks .... problem : dell latitude ls400 wher can I find the refresh rate of the monitor ?09:39
=== Andrew`` [n=andrew@202.43.231.52] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88computer np :)09:39
=== zig-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88while a lot of people ask h to use command line i may ask anyone ever read GNU/linux cmd line interface intro "man 1 intro"?09:40
Andrew``I dont have a SYSTEM>ADMINISTRATION> icon either on desktop or in main menu.. is this a problem.. and if so How do I rectify it?09:41
HobbseeAndrew``: it's not.  it was a gnome thing09:42
mikedoes someone of you have a rt2500 wireless chipset up and running with networkmanager?09:42
computeroff topic: i installed edgy on hp recovery disk's partition (8.5g), i have windows on the rest of the harddrive, is there someway (without erasing files from windows) that i can repartition the windows partition (ntfs) to give more space to edgy?09:42
titanix88Andrew``: using both gnome & kde?09:42
fdovingmike: no, that didn't work at all for me. i ended up using kwlan.09:42
=== s330d3r [n=s330d3r@209-161-220-90.dsl.look.ca] has joined #kubuntu
computeri tried partition magic and boot magic (which i spent 3  hrs deleting... lol), and that didn't work out well09:42
Andrew``titanix88: no KDE alone09:43
computeri couldn't split window partition with partition magic, i suppose it's cuz it's ntfs not fat?09:43
Andrew``I am still having trouble installing nvidia09:43
Andrew``bugger it09:43
titanix88while a lot of people ask h to use command line i may ask anyone ever read GNU/linux cmd line interface intro "man 1 intro"?09:43
titanix88Andrew``: what problem?09:43
fdovingtitanix88: yes, why do you ask about man intro?09:43
Andrew``says no libc header files09:44
=== ritalin [n=chad@74-133-169-77.dhcp.insightbb.com] has left #kubuntu []
=== netdaemon [n=kelly@tuxhacker/netdaemon] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88fdoving: it's should be the start page of command linerers,that;s why.09:45
titanix88Andrew``: tried from repos?09:45
Andrew``dont know how to09:45
fdovingtitanix88: have you seen "/msg ubotu cli" ?09:45
titanix88fdoving: what does it say?09:46
computerfdoving : srry, but same question with earlier, i pasted error in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23844/, i tried to use adept to get module-assistant but it's not in adept =(09:46
fdovingAndrew``: get the package linux-libc-dev09:46
fdovingcomputer: you need to enable the universe repository.09:46
titanix88Andrew`` what graphics card?09:46
computerfdoving ah cool thx, by uncommenting it right09:47
Andrew``FX520009:47
fdovingcomputer: 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list' uncomment.. yes.09:47
computerfdoving thx =)09:47
fdovingcomputer: then run 'sudo aptitude update' and then 'sudo apt-get -f install'09:47
computerfdoving thx, especially for typing out the path to sources list, i woulda had to google for that hehe09:48
computerfdoving should i get the backport repo uncommented as well09:49
=== Neutrinux [n=Neutrinu@85.229.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``titanix88: I have a fx520009:49
fdovingcomputer: don't need that.09:49
computerk thx09:49
computerany harm to uncommment those09:49
computercan i just uncomment every repo09:50
fdovingyes. you can.09:50
computersrry for the string of pretty much retarded questions lol09:50
computercool09:50
netdaemonno games included on the install =(09:51
=== titanix88_ [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
computerwell guess i've reached a conclusion not to use the "envy" program09:52
computerso many people said not to use it too lol, plus i can't get it to install har har09:52
=== hyper__ch is now known as hyper_ch
computeris there a repo for the latest ndiswrapper?09:53
titanix88_Andrews'': u should try"sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx"09:53
titanix88_then "sudo nvidia-xconfig"09:54
=== smithw [n=ingsoc@200-158-50-148.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``ok thanks... also.. I dont have a "my computer" so I cant browse my puter.. any help on this?09:54
=== Goliath23_ [n=david@dslb-084-058-060-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``titanix88 can I paste 2 lines?09:55
titanix88_Andrew``: kcontrol center-> appearence->icons->devices(maybe)->show removable drives,home on Desktop etc.09:56
titanix88_Andrew``:what lines??!!09:56
Andrew``after trying sudo apt-get....09:57
Andrew``E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:57
Andrew``E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:57
smithwHello everyone... I'm having some troubles with the wifi configuration. My Kubuntu box connects through wifi to a "router" computer. Everything is fine, except when I have to reboot that computer; Kubuntu reconnects to the local network, but it loses all routing and dns configuration. Using "route" on CLI doesn't seem to help either, so maybe I'm wrong about the problem. What procedure can I try to "restart" the wifi connection?09:58
titanix88_Andrew``:ohh!they were commands!09:58
=== soulrider_ [n=mauro@r190-64-95-186.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``yes I know.. typed them in a konsole09:58
smithwAndrew``, is Adept or another package manager running?09:58
=== virusa [n=virusa@host-88-210-210-93.adsl.caucasus.net] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``ahh ok.. yes it was..now closed09:59
Andrew``will try agan09:59
=== netdaemon [n=kelly@tuxhacker/netdaemon] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_Andrew``: anyother package managerlike Adept running?then close it.Or just install nvidia-glx from ADEEPT:)09:59
computerhm kubuntu just informed me that a newer version of kubuntu is available and asked whether i want to install it, is this feisty or an update from 2.6.17 kernet to like a 2.6.20 one09:59
titanix88_computer: what disto (Dapper/Edgy)?10:00
=== blekos [n=blekos@ppp122-115.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu
=== Kepe{HUN} [n=user@ip-c1091e85.dir.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F18DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
computertitanix88 right now using edgy10:01
titanix88_Andrew``: installed it?10:01
=== Lattyware [n=Latty@host86-141-179-250.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_computer: then it's feisty.10:02
=== tier_ [n=tier@p54AB4261.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
computertitanix88 cool thx10:02
computerdoes feisty have a new look?10:02
computernew desktop look10:02
=== arunkale [n=chatzill@nadeem2.my7star.com] has joined #kubuntu
rdallarmiHi, I am setting up a mailserver based on feisty. I want to give imap access, but I find this error on the log: server imapd: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/fam-- enybody knows what this is about?10:02
titanix88_computer :maybe.10:02
computerok =)10:03
arunkaleI know this is a bit off topic, but anyone know php here? i need help with a simple script...10:03
fdovingrdallarmi: what kind of imap server?10:03
Andrew``titanix88 yes its installed.. now do I need to reboot?10:03
rdallarmicourier imap10:03
=== tschentz_ [n=tschentz@dslb-084-058-154-249.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_computer: i don't use feisty(me good old upgraded dapper) but every ubuntu comes with some new look! :)10:04
rdallarmiimap works it is just damn slow10:04
=== Der_Dude [n=babel@p54814F3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== mauri [n=mauri@cs181070183.pp.htv.fi] has joined #kubuntu
=== blizzz [n=blizzz@p57b53b3d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_Andrew``: no.just "sudo nvidia-xconfig" & ctrl+Alt+backspace to restart Xserver .No restart.10:05
computertitanix88_ yeah i didn't mean ok in any sarcastic way at all =), there's much reason behind any thoughtful maybies =)10:05
=== tmske [n=thomas@dD5E0D32D.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_computer : u got it =)10:06
=== Andrew`` [n=andrew@202.43.231.52] has joined #kubuntu
DarkkishCan I use an RPM file?10:06
smithwDarkkish, if you convert it to deb first with alien, yes.10:06
titanix88_Darkkish: u can convert it to .deb with alien.10:07
=== vanleest [n=vanleest@ip51cfe734.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== DarkED [n=darked@h460ad7df.area7.spcsdns.net] has joined #kubuntu
smithwDarkkish, although it might have some compatibility issues.10:07
Darkkishoh10:07
=== dustin [n=dustin@8.14.233.143] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_Andrew'' : working?10:07
=== weedar [n=weedar@084202105009.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #kubuntu
=== DarkED [n=darked@h460ad7df.area7.spcsdns.net] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``ok.. now where do I configure my card10:08
Darkkishwhat about sudo apt-get install rpm10:08
=== ebbu [n=ebbu@36-189.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``nvidia splash screen came up10:08
titanix88_"nvidia-settings" though it is not permanent by default.10:08
=== asalam [n=asalam@opvolger.demon.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== merhojt [n=Jimmy@h90n5c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== mo0osah [n=mo0osah@cpe-70-112-190-82.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
smithwDarkkish, I never tried that, but I'd be afraid of messing with the system. If you're a skilled sysadmin, go ahead, though.10:09
mo0osahI just got everything working exactly the way I like it.  What are some good alternatives to back everything up10:09
titanix88_Darkkish: installing alien will also install rpm. but never install with rpm. it will create extra independent packaging system10:10
=== zhan is now known as zhan|away
smithwtitanix88_, Darkkish, it also may result on a "dependence nightmare".10:10
titanix88_Andrew``: u can stop the splash showing up everytime by"sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-logo"10:11
makuseru!fglrx10:11
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:11
titanix88_smithw: i find sometimes packages don't convert wll without --scripts flag10:12
titanix88_Andrew``: satisfied?10:13
=== gerard [n=gerard@51.Red-81-37-162.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #kubuntu
smithwtitanix88_, I've never seen that... in fact, I avoid alien as much as possible. After all, there's not much you can't find in deb, source or binary tarball form these days...10:13
=== snake_ [n=snake@151.66.136.126] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``ok now i have 1280x1024 coooool!!!10:14
Darkkishlol mine was running that when i started... idk why10:14
=== hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-eb23de8e3a24153e] has joined #kubuntu
=== MilhousePunkRock [n=MPR@dslc-082-082-064-043.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88_Darkkish: i don't get it 0_.10:15
smithwtitanix88_, and it's nothing I can reason about, but I seem to think all RPM's are somewhat flawed. Probably bad memories from my Red Hat days...10:15
Darkkishnvm10:15
MilhousePunkRockHello everyone!10:15
titanix88_bye everyone it's lunchtime.10:16
MilhousePunkRockI want to "pimp" my Konqueror a little so I can forget about Firefox... 1. How do I enable "Opera-style" mouse gestures? They seem to be activated in KControl, but don't work... :-/10:16
titanix88_Ofcourse in mytimeZone!(2.15pm)10:16
=== titanix88_ [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
DarkkishMilhousePunkRock: why do you want to "forget about firefox"10:17
MilhousePunkRockDarkkish: Even with Gtk-Qt-theme (or whatever that was called), it does not integrate properly into my KDE enviroment. And lately I had the feeling it gets awfully slow with more than 5 tabs open...10:18
=== premier_ [n=premier@129.210.145.73] has joined #kubuntu
=== hamilton [n=hamilton@host81-159-64-96.range81-159.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== tmbg [i=tmbg@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x3DA923CF] has joined #kubuntu
smithwany thoughts on my previous wifi question, anyone?10:20
=== cntb [n=user@CBL217-132-249-197.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #kubuntu
=== [4K^Javax] [n=javax@107.Red-81-34-202.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
MilhousePunkRocksmithw: Can you ask again, I wasn't there when you first asked...10:20
premier_smithw: whats the problem?10:20
smithwWifi connects ok to a router computer, but when that computer has to be restarted, I can't bring up the connection back. Also, route tables go bye bye...10:21
=== grzesio [n=grzesio@erv188.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== noiesmo [n=noiesmo@unaffiliated/noiesmo] has joined #kubuntu
smithwI have to restart Kubuntu also to make it connect again.10:22
smithwalso = too10:22
smithwI can detail the situation further, if needed.10:23
=== zig-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
MilhousePunkRocksmithw: Are you using DHCP?10:24
=== khkhdfjald [n=tony@pool-71-118-60-218.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
smithwMilhousePunkRock, nope, static IP.10:24
MilhousePunkRocksmithw: Because in that case, you get a new IP from the router when you restart it. But your client doesn't notice10:24
MilhousePunkRockOh, too bad. Sounded just like it...10:25
smithw:(10:25
=== njt88 [n=nick@89.242.175.208] has joined #kubuntu
MilhousePunkRockI never restart my router, since it is a real router, so I can't say much about it..10:26
=== thirdy [n=thirdy@58.69.227.150] has joined #kubuntu
khkhdfjaldIs this tech support 10110:26
thirdywat the most complete dvd codec package?10:26
thirdycan't play my dvd10:26
MilhousePunkRock!multimedia > thirdy10:27
smithwMilhousePunkRock, in fact, I don't have a router, I just have two computers and a DSL modem. So one of them has to route for the other, and I chose the MacMini to do that just because it's more silent, haha.10:27
khkhdfjaldls10:27
khkhdfjaldIm getting a mac mini in two weeks10:27
=== blizzz is now known as blizzzek
thirdyNo plugin found to handle this resource10:28
thirdyxine: couldn't find demux for>dvd:///dev/hdb10:29
smithwkhkhdfjald, in my personal experience, it was totally worth it. Though I haven't had the nerve to try and install any linux distro on it yet.10:29
thirdy!demux10:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about demux - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:29
khkhdfjaldI want to run OSX natively10:30
smithwthirdy, to play dvd's on *ubuntu, I think you only choice is libdvdcss. Although it may be illegal on your country, you should check it first.10:30
tmbg!codecs | thirdy10:30
ubotuthirdy: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:30
=== roconnor [n=roconnor@vhe-540354.sshn.net] has joined #kubuntu
khkhdfjaldas long as I have bash. I'm totally happy10:31
=== mark_ [n=mark@83.141.113.61] has joined #kubuntu
smithwkhkhdfjald, I spent a whole weekend on that, but I managed to compile KDE to run on Apple's X server, haha...10:31
=== thirdy_ [n=thirdy@58.69.227.150] has joined #kubuntu
khkhdfjaldsmith, humm that sounds painfull. I still haven't recovered from when I complied Fluxbox from source10:33
=== jussi01 [n=jussi@dyn3-82-128-187-102.psoas.suomi.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== khkhdfjald is now known as Tony_B
Tony_Bindeed10:35
smithwkhkhdfjald, compiling itself wasn't that painful, was just time-consuming. The real problem was that macports (third-party *nix tools packaging system that compiles everything from source) had some tarballs' addresses that didn't work. so everytime I had to stop the downloading, download it myself, put it in the right place and restart everything again. when it came to the compilation, it was just the wait.10:36
smithwalso, on that time my broadband was just 512k.10:36
=== stefan_ [n=stefan@ip144-27-10-190.ct.co.cr] has joined #kubuntu
Tony_Bls10:37
=== budg_ [n=budg@c211-30-41-33.mirnd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== jim [n=jim@ip70-176-95-55.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== zhangkai__ [n=zhangkai@222.173.146.82] has joined #kubuntu
=== dhq [n=dhq@unaffiliated/dhq] has joined #kubuntu
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
makuseruation10:41
thirdy_ok, this is getting annoying, I'll just get vcl10:43
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== naught101 [n=naught10@124.176.122.11] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@ppp260-43.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu
=== staniol [n=staniol@ip-85-160-4-204.eurotel.cz] has joined #kubuntu
tmbgthirdy_, vlc is nice, you'll like it10:47
=== abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.54.63] has joined #kubuntu
staniolciao10:47
=== thirdy__ [n=thirdy@58.69.34.168] has joined #kubuntu
=== Dinofly [n=dinofly@mar92-13-88-165-255-149.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Jonty [n=jadh@77-97-207-100.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== nuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== zhan|away is now known as zhan
=== muesli [n=muesli@amarok/developer/muesli] has joined #kubuntu
mueslihey guys10:50
muesliis mouse support in kde broken since 3.5.4 or so?10:50
=== Huahua [n=hua_@122.0.228.54] has joined #kubuntu
muesliit's getting pretty annoying recently, upto 3.5.7 where it's pretty unusable10:50
=== pag [n=pavel@cs181123229.pp.htv.fi] has joined #kubuntu
muesliclicking a link in konqueror starts a drag operation, e.g.10:50
Lynouremuesli: broken it what way? I have not noticed anything on 3.5.610:50
mueslimiddle click doesn't work to open a tab anymore10:50
pawitpMouse support!?10:50
mueslimiddle click doesn't copy / paste anymore10:51
mueslihttp://www.chris.de/drag.png10:51
mueslithat's what happens when i click a link in konqui and move the mouse10:51
mueslinote: konqui ain't frozen, i just need to press escape now10:51
muesliyet, not being able to click links / middle links anymore is pretty annoying obviously10:51
=== zach [n=zach@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
zachGreets, everyone...10:52
mueslis/middle links/middle click10:52
mueslizach: greets10:52
pawitpTry reverting your mouse settings to default10:52
=== fig0 [n=Fig0@p5486F0F8.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
mueslifunny thing so: it's only in kde apps10:53
mueslifirefox works fine10:53
mueslicould also be qt then, of course10:53
pawitpCould be KDE's mouse setting10:53
mueslialso, all drag operations have to be finished by pressing escape10:53
mueslieven if they were successful10:53
muesliotherwise i can't click or type anything anymore10:53
Tony_Bls10:53
mueslipawitp: i reverted that stuff to default a million times by now, yeah :( didn't help10:54
thirdy__Wats next to VLC?10:54
blekoshi, is there any tool for linux to surf anonymously?10:54
mueslipawitp: i even wiped my entire .kde a few times just to find a solution10:54
pawitpmuesli boot the live cd and see if it works10:54
zachI'm having some trouble playing an .ogg file I recorded with gtk-recordMyDesktop. I already checked the file on another computer and it plays fine; compared the installed packages on both machines and I'm pretty sure all the relevant ones are installed on each one. Any ideas?10:54
pawitpzach what error?10:55
=== ubunturos [n=ubunturo@59.184.41.161] has joined #kubuntu
tmbgblekos, privoxy/tor10:55
zachThe video "plays" in Kaffeine, but it's 100% blue.10:55
zachIt shows up perfectly fine on my other machine10:55
=== aib [n=aib@pdpc/supporter/basic/aib] has joined #kubuntu
=== staniol [n=staniol@ip-85-160-4-204.eurotel.cz] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
pawitptry running kaffeine from the commandline and open the video, and paste the output10:56
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-8.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
blekosi'll google both thnx10:56
pawitp!paste|zach10:56
ubotuzach: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)10:56
huashuaiis there any good newsgroup client in kubuntu?10:56
pawitp!find nttp10:57
ubotuPackage/file nttp does not exist in feisty10:57
pawitp!find nntp10:57
ubotuFound: cyrus-nntpd-2.2, libnews-nntpclient-perl, nntp, openntpd, phpgroupware-nntp10:57
zachpawitp: Thanks, one sec...10:57
pawitpnot so helpful10:57
zachhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23851/10:58
zachIt repeats that several times/second until the video stops.10:58
=== remy [n=remy@89.33.168.28] has joined #kubuntu
tmbghuashuai, I haven't found any I like, but Xnews works in WINE10:59
zachShoot, sorry, missed one line that shows once at the beginning: "QLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout"10:59
=== smithw [n=ingsoc@200-158-50-148.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu
pawitpzach: That line always show11:00
zachThe one I just said, or the ones in the pastebin?11:00
pawitpzach: Can you give me your system spec?11:00
pawitpand the output of 'free'11:01
=== matlec [n=matlec@p54AD69EA.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
zach512MB/1.4 Celeron M/Intel 915GM onboard video11:01
=== ubunturos [n=ubunturo@59.184.41.161] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-8.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
pawitp512MB should be enough ram11:01
pawitpzach: And the spec of the other system?11:02
zachhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23852/11:02
=== naught102 [n=naught10@202.43.235.56] has joined #kubuntu
zachThe other one has the same amount of RAM, a 2.0 P4, and onboard ATI11:02
pawitp915M onboard video doesn't has enough memory then, paste your xorg.conf please11:03
zachhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23854/11:04
pawitpI'll post a correction to that11:04
zachThe fact that Beryl performs 10x better on this one (the one with the problem) than on the ATI one (which plays it fine) would be irrelevant, I assume?11:05
=== Chani [n=chani@twinsen.warpedgames.com] has joined #kubuntu
zachI'm just wondering since we're guessing it's a VRAM issue.11:05
pawitpzach: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23855/11:06
pawitpzach: linux doesn't play well with ati anyway11:06
=== flowingfire [n=david@74-33-31-96.dsl1.mnd.mn.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu
zachI know. That's why I'm confused. -_~11:07
pawitpZach: try the xorg.conf I posted11:07
=== zig-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
zachSo that's giving what, 64MB of system RAM exclusively to the video card?11:07
pawitpYou have to give ram to the video card11:08
zachI know pretty much nothing about how system RAM gets divided up between the card and other applications?11:08
zachThat's cool, I'll try it. BRB11:08
flowingfireRecompile your freetype library with the patented stuff enabled11:08
flowingfireIs there a way to do it?11:08
zachThose two lines under device are all that changed?11:09
flowingfireHello everybody.  I was told that you can recompile your freetype library with patented stuff enabled so your text rendering looks just as good as Mac or Windows.  Does anybody know how to do this?11:09
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-8.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
pawitpzach: Yes11:10
=== ke- [n=kenneth@port272.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu
smithwflowingfire: I know nothing about recompiling freetype library, but I've seen a tutorial on the internet that gives the same effect without compiling anything.11:10
zachBRB11:10
smithwAlthough it was meand for edgy...11:10
=== fraco [n=fraco@213.219.134.250.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #kubuntu
smithwI have it bookmarked on my work computer, but not here...11:11
flowingfireSmithw: Really?  I've followed all sorts of guides and taken their advice... I still think my text rendering is lousy lol... freetype must be updated!11:11
smithwI'll see if I can find it again.11:11
flowingfirekewl11:11
smithwflowingfire: http://jaganath.wordpress.com/2006/07/16/ubuntu-install-log-6-finally-os-x-like-font-rendering-in-linux/11:12
flowingfirethanks smithw11:12
flowingfire... checking11:12
=== ewa [n=ewa@193.37.139.10] has joined #kubuntu
=== zach [n=zach@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
smithw... but nothing for feisty there. and there's some ubuntu-only instructions also...11:13
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-8.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
zachpawitp: That got it. Thanks a lot! :D11:13
zach<Feels stupid for not looking for running from the terminal first>11:14
=== glauco1 [n=lib@host74-90.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
flowingfiresuppose the same directions will work for Feisty?11:14
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
smithwflowingfire: probably. but on the part you have to install some binaries, take a look at this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34367011:16
flowingfirek11:16
zachpawitp: Giving that 64MB to the videocard should theoretically have a positive impact on Beryl's performance as well, right?11:16
titanix88smithw:what about?11:16
pawitpzach: I don't use Beryl unfortunately11:16
=== fignew [n=fig@user-1121gib.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Pensacola [n=pensacol@59.130-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu
pawitpzach: But hardware accelerated stuff rely more on CPU and not ram11:17
zachOhh ok. That answers it. Thanks.11:17
flowingfirezach: How are you giving RAM to video card? What exactly are you doing? (because I want to do it, lol)11:17
zachflowingfire: What kind of card do you have?11:18
=== budg__ [n=budg@c211-30-41-33.mirnd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== bbq [n=bbq@S01060011957a212f.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu
flowingfireZach: Nvidia, and it poops out and gives me black boxes instead of windows after a while...  I assume it's just out of ram and the driver is badly written or something.11:18
zachBecause you should only do that if it's an onboard card, right, pawitp?11:18
flowingfireso more ram to the card might solve it11:18
=== jovans [n=jovans@p54b07fb1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
pawitpzach: and I never used(read: own) an onboard card before11:19
flowingfirezach: It's a PCI card, not a motherboard thing I think...11:19
smithwtitanix88: non-native English speaker here, what does "what about" mean?11:19
pawitpzach: But using that on a non-onboard card actually specifies how much memory it has.11:20
zachOh ok. Well, I remember when doing "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg", when it gave the option to give a certain amount of RAM to the card, it said you should only do so if your card doesn't have any dedicated memory of its own. Is it safe to ignore that in the case of having a PCI card?11:20
=== henri_ [n=henri@a80-186-147-149.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu
pawitpzach: Yes11:20
flowingfirethat's good enws11:21
pawitpzach: and it's probably a PCI-E card11:21
flowingfirenews11:21
titanix88smithw: what r u talking about.Never mind , yesterday i got flamed by a pure british.11:21
=== lorenzo_ [n=lorenzo@ppp-130-10.32-151.iol.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== virusa is now known as virusavirusa
flowingfireso wait--- you have to do a xorg reconfiguration to give your card more ram?  uggh.  i have my xorg set up so nicely though! lol11:22
zachpawitp: So, assuming the card has memory of its own, placing those lines you added to my xorg.conf will just add to that memory, right? As opposed to limit its total memory to that?11:23
zachflowingfire: It's as simple as adding two lines to the device section. ;-)11:23
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-8.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== Chani [n=chani@twinsen.warpedgames.com] has left #kubuntu []
flowingfireOh wow... Can u paste-bin for me?11:24
zachhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23855/11:24
flowingfirethx. :)11:24
zachflowingfire: But I'd wait for pawitp's answer to my last question before trying anything.11:24
smithwtitanix88: ah... thanks! that was about improving font rendering on linux. and I think in international channels like this people should be more understanding of language errors... it's not like we're on #shakespeare or anything...11:24
pawitpzach: I'm not sure, but PCI-E card should not use system memory11:24
=== Mr_Pan [n=marcopan@host14-186.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@spc1-reig2-0-0-cust600.asfd.broadband.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ is now known as toolej
toolejoh hey11:25
=== fignew_ [n=fig@user-11211eq.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu
toolejwait, never mind, it loaded11:25
=== Mr_Pan [n=marcopan@host14-186.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
zachpawitp: Sorry, stupid question, I guess, given you already said you never used an onboard card.11:26
=== bleepbloop [n=bleepblo@ool-44c7f39d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88smithw : i didn't know there is such(i should have asumed though). Err, someone will tell both of us to go offtopic...11:26
=== cx3dx [n=alex@frbg-590e1302.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
pawitpzach: I always use low-end graphic cards and see that it always has enough memory11:27
titanix88pawitp: graphics engine is more important than memory. I bet.11:27
pawitptitanix88: It is more important, but it is also important to have enough memory to use11:28
bleepbloopI am using i810 drivers currently but my device is 915GM. Intellinuxgraphics.com states that the "i810" name is deprecated and should be replaced with "intel" however this prevents x11 from starting. Is there another name for this driver?11:28
zachOn a completely different subject, does anyone know of a good, easy-to-install macro program that has a GUI? My cousin's just starting out on Linux-- I showed him xmacro but I don't think he's ready for a command line-only program like that quite yet. :-\11:29
smithwtitanix88: yeah, probably... anyway, take a look at this http://jaganath.wordpress.com/2006/07/16/ubuntu-install-log-6-finally-os-x-like-font-rendering-in-linux/ and this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=343670, if you're interested.11:29
flowingfireIf I add those lines you guys were talking about and I want to give my card 400 MB of ram, would I just change the value of that line-- "VideoRam" "400000"... Do anything to cachelines?11:29
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-48.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
toolejIssue: A couple months back, I couldn't get XGL working because I couldn't get anything other than the mesa openGL driver working despite installing the ati package11:29
smithwIt worked for me on edgy (which I have on my work), and the thread at ubuntu forums provides the binaries for feisty.11:29
zachflowingfire: Is your card PCI-Express?11:29
toolejapparently this was because my graphics card (x1650pro) was unsupported11:30
flowingfireHow can I find out, Zach?11:30
=== llutz [n=lutz@p54801E5C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88flowingfire : don't be crazy to do that :)11:30
=== zhan is now known as pdftk
zachUmm... Does "lspci" indicate whether something's PCI-Express or not?11:31
flowingfireI have the ram to spare lol11:31
=== MrDigimon [n=MrDigimo@f244.ip7.netikka.fi] has joined #kubuntu
zachflowingfire: How much RAM do you have? You might want to check the output of "free" and/or "top" before going and relegating chunk that huge exclusively to video.11:32
flowingfireWell, I have 2 gigs right now only, but I plan on putting 2 more in11:33
flowingfireand i never use it all11:33
titanix88flowingfire: gift me someof that i got only 256. lol11:33
zachlol11:33
=== oliver_ [n=oliver@p3EE38C47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
flowingfirehehe... titanix88, try sudo apt-get install more damn ram11:34
flowingfirej/k11:34
pawitpzach: linux always try to use ram, so free doesn't give the minimal amout of ram linux have to use11:34
zachRight. I just learned about that today.11:34
zachRAM not in use is RAM wasted.11:34
pawitpflowingfire: What card/driver are you using?11:35
=== tekr [n=tekr@ip70-188-135-236.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
flowingfirenvidia Geforce 6150 LE... and it really sucks on linux.11:35
flowingfirebad drivers I think11:35
zachSo no one knows of a decent macro program for Linux (i.e., something that can automate a recorded set of mouseclicks and keyboard strokes)?11:36
oliver_hi, i need help fixing a boot problem (Feisty Final), can someone help please ?11:36
=== froud [n=sean@dsl-242-145-109.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #kubuntu
zachflowingfire: Which driver are you using?11:36
smithwflowingfire: I might be wrong, but theoretically nvidia's proprietary drivers are the best ones for linux...11:36
muesliRiddell: Bug #118470 it is11:36
titanix88flowingfire: r u crazy to share ur ram with a non integreted graphics board ???!!!11:36
zachsmithw: From everything I've experienced/read, that's accurate.11:36
titanix88flowingfire : installed nvidia-glx?11:37
zachflowingfire: Try nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-new, and nvidia-glx-legacy.11:37
pawitpI don't actually thinks that sharing ram to non-integrated card is possible11:37
flowingfireEverybody-- I actually have the proprietary nvidia-glx-new driver because it is the only one that works correctly11:37
zachOhh ok.11:37
titanix88zach: it should be in nvidia-glx only.11:37
zachflowingfire: How often do you get the black window bug?11:38
flowingfireEvery time I'm on my computer for more the ten minutes and have several windows open11:38
titanix88flowingfire: did u configure it properly?11:38
zachtitanix88: Oh alright. I assumed that was what he was using and figured he might have better luck with one of the others. My mistake.11:38
flowingfireI can fix the problem by changing to xgl rendering and piximap crap.11:38
flowingfirebut that's not a great solution, imho11:38
=== pdftk is now known as zhan
zachflowingfire: How much VRAM does the card have, and what are you doing when you start getting black windows?11:39
=== tekr [n=tekr@ip70-188-135-236.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== hasan [n=hasan@85.105.198.35] has joined #kubuntu
njt88hello everyone11:39
zachnjt88: Greets11:39
flowingfireMostly firefox gets black-windowed, but no application is exempt... It's when I surf the web, and open too many browser windows or tabs...11:40
njt88on every boot i need to sudo iwconfig wlan0 key open  --->  sudo dhclient   otherwise my wifi doesnt connect11:40
flowingfireHow do I check vram... I think it might be 128 or something..11:40
=== computer [n=computer@c-71-198-250-117.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
njt88also, it doesnt show up in knetwork manager even when i have a good connection11:40
zachHmm11:40
njt88odd hey?11:40
computeris there (and what is) the command to see what version of nvidia driver i'm using?11:40
pawitpcomputer: glxinfo11:41
pawitpcompute: ignore that11:41
smithwnjt88: having had wifi problems myself, I just gave up knetworkmanager and wrote a startup bash script to handle wifi connection...11:41
computerok hehe11:41
njt88yet if i go to system settings > netowrking  it is there11:41
njt88smithw: yeah, i think its a bit unreliable atm isnt it...11:41
computeralso is there a command to get the nvidia gear running11:41
computer!pastebin11:42
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)11:42
zachWell, I'm running on an nVidia 7600GS 256MB, and I've only seen the black window bug twice in over 5 months of heavy use (e.g., multiple GIMP projects open at once, along with Firefox, Konqueror, etc.).11:42
njt88whats the easiest way to add startup progs in kubuntu btw?11:42
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@88.87.13.50] has joined #kubuntu
flowingfirezach: You're lucky.  The black window bug is completely unavoidable on a use-by-use basis for me.11:42
titanix88 flowingfire "nvidia-settings" first tab11:42
zachnjt88: Drag and drop the shortcut to the program from the KMenu to ~/.kde/Autostart11:42
smithwnjt88: I just put them in /etc/init.d and link to them on /etc/rcX.d...11:42
pawitpWhat is the black windows bug anyway?11:43
njt88cool ok11:43
flowingfiretitanix88: thx-- I just opened nvidia-settings11:43
smithwnjt88: or you can do as zach said, but that's only executed when you log in.11:43
zachsmithw: Is there any benefit to doing it that way over the Autostart folder?11:43
=== eMaX [n=emax@i5387A258.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu
zachOh ok11:43
flowingfirepawitp: The black windows bug causes windows not to render, but just to display a big black box where the window should be.  It usually happens with Beryl installed and on low-RAM video cards.11:44
smithwzach: but you can put it on /usr/share/autostart either. however I don't know if it get's started only when some user log in or when the X server get started.11:44
titanix88flowingfire: np :)11:44
computerwow since we talking bout beryl here, hehe, i had these error msgs at start up, any fix come to mind? : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23859/11:44
smithwzach, njt88: but if you want something to start independently from the x server, rc2.d is your way to go.11:44
zachsmithw: Say I have a script I want to execute and stay running regardless of whether I'm logged in or if I restart X (i.e., the script that serves MP3's to an XBox 360 on the network). Would placing a link to it in /etc/init.d do the job?11:44
=== vit [n=vit@190-76-1-232.dyn.movilnet.com.ve] has joined #kubuntu
zachsmithw: They only start upon logging in with the method I suggested.11:45
njt88zach: so if i want to sudo iwconfig wlan0 key open  and then  sudo dhclient  on every boot without needing to put in the password, how can i do that?11:45
pawitpflowingfire I don't know about 6150 LE, but 6150 is an integrated chip11:45
zachnjt88: Sorry, not sure. smithw seems more knowledgable on that than myself. ;-)11:45
smithwzach: not exactly... you would put the script itself on /etc/init.d (convention) and a link to it on /etc/rc2.d (runlevel 2)11:45
flowingfireHmm... Maybe it is integrated... bhel11:45
flowingfireI know I have a video card installed in the PCI slot, but the way it was built is confusing.. maybe that's the TV tuner .. ?11:46
zachsmithw: And as for having to enter the password for stuff that requires root permissions?11:46
njt88ummmm    heh - smithw:  sorta following that...11:46
zachflowingfire: do "lspci" from a terminal. Have a look at the output. If you're still not sure, pastebin it. :-)11:46
smithwzach: you can only write to rcX.d and init.d if you are root, since everything there is executed with root permissions11:47
zachsmithw: Ohh ok. Got it.11:47
zachnjt88: Get all that?11:47
njt88its a pain in the but but the device seems to default to restricted mode and wont allow for a connection11:47
njt88so no need for sudo in the there then smithw?11:47
blekosis there any amarok alternative?11:47
smithwnjt88: in short: put your script into /etc/init.d with no sudos and a link to it on /etc/rc2.d11:47
zachnjt88: What's it doing, exactly? Does it try to connect and hang at 28%? (That's the problem I keep running into with wireless.)11:47
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
njt88zach: it doesnt show on knetwork manager at all11:48
zachblekos: Why would you want an alternative to the best MP3 player known to man? :-P11:48
zachblekos: I've heard good things about Banshee, although I never could get it to run. Exaile's trying to do for GNOME what Amarok does for KDE, although I haven't checked it out.11:49
njt88zach: well, it did.  but it didnt work.  so i used ndiswrapper, and now it shows up in iwconfig and ifconfig -a  but not in the knetwork manager.  also shows up as wlan0 in network under system settings11:49
blekos:) 1. it is a bit slow when i search for a song in my question and 2. smg wrong with keep my collection k11:49
flowingfireHeh-- just checked 256 ram on the card... I don't know what to make of this output though: see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23860/11:49
fdovingblekos: there are audacious and beep-media-player if you want winamp 2.x like alternatives.11:49
smithwnjt88: also, do a ls -lah on /etc/rc2.d before naming the link. the scripts on this directory are executed on alphabetical order, so there's a SXX naming convention to specify the order of execution.11:49
njt88zach: but yes, it was hanging at 28% b4 ndiswrapper11:49
=== capiira [n=capiira@dslb-088-064-080-021.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #Kubuntu
=== andrew__ [n=andrew@gpdnet.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== emonkey-p [n=emonkey@static-pro-212-101-27-121.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu
zachnjt88: How hard was it to set up the driver in ndiswrapper? It looks like that might be the route I have to take.11:51
njt88zach dead easy11:51
=== andrew__ [n=andrew@gpdnet.plus.com] has joined #kubuntu
zachnjt88: Did you use the GTK frontend, or just do everything from the terminal?11:51
=== capiira [n=capiira@dslb-088-064-080-021.pools.arcor-ip.net] has left #Kubuntu []
njt88i just installed ndiswrapper and did it all cli11:51
=== aziz [n=aziz@chello084112072063.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu
njt88zach: the front end did *not* work11:52
zachflowingfire: Sorry, not quite sure what to make of that, aside from that your card is indeed PCI-Express.11:52
blekosfor some reason not all my mp3s are in the database11:52
smithwI wonder what's it with frontends in linux that almost always have trouble to work...11:52
pawitpVGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C51 PCI Express Bridge11:52
blekosi did update & rescan but no luck11:52
=== sakabatou_ [n=sakabato@sb-217-129-120-240.netvisao.pt] has joined #kubuntu
zachflowingfire: ...which, based on what everyone in here is saying, means you don't want to try giving system memory to it.11:52
pawitpflowingfire: What's your mainboard?11:53
flowingfirepawitp: I'm not expert enough to be able to tell ya11:53
pawitpflowingfire: I suggest that it's an onboard11:53
=== payam is now known as Payam
zachWell, I'm heading off. njt88 and pawitp, thanks a lot for the info. Good night/good luck, everyone.11:54
pawitpC51 is an integrated chipset11:54
njt88zach: cya and thx!11:54
flowingfireohhh ok11:54
=== computer [n=computer@c-71-198-250-117.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
flowingfiregrrr lol11:54
=== hydh [n=hydh@ppp-88-217-46-24.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu
pawitpflowingfire: The best way is too set the AGP Aperture in the BIOS11:55
flowingfireHmm . . . Ok11:56
=== cy [n=cy@node-be029380.scarlet.an] has joined #kubuntu
flowingfireGawd I love Kubuntu hehe11:56
pawitpflowingfire: But that's AGP11:56
pawitpflowingfire: I'm not sure, but try that first11:56
flowingfirethat might solve the black-box bug?11:57
pawitpflowingfire: Yes, or configure X11:57
pawitpSet VideoRAM to 26214411:57
=== lithaborn [n=lithabor@82-46-201-231.cable.ubr04.king.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
flowingfireOk... I'll reboot and be back in a minute.... thanks.11:58
=== linux_ [n=linux@aoqktkg1wu.adsl.datanet.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== dumbkiwi [n=matt@125-238-37-144.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu
=== iarwain_ [n=iarwain@d54C339AC.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu
=== sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #kubuntu
=== jovans [n=jovans@p54B07FB1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
computermy cpu is supposed to be 3ghz, but on cat /proc/cpuinfo, it shows as two 1ghz cpu, is that normal?12:04
pawitpcomputer: What's your cpu?12:04
=== sebbar_ [n=sebbar@p57B3DF5F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
crimsunthat's likely its base cpufreq12:04
sebbar_hi, are the specs for gutsy already out?12:04
pawitpcomputer: What's the model?12:05
njt88smithw: I cant seem to be able to figure out how to make the link :s this is what i tried12:05
njt88sudo ln -T /etc/init.d/wifiOpen /etc/rc2.d/S40wifiOpen12:05
njt88but it is different from the rest12:05
smithwln -s12:05
njt88urffff12:06
=== ircd [n=ircd@BAB3438.bab.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu
computerpawitp finding out those info, 1 sec12:06
=== flowingfire [n=david@74-33-31-96.dsl1.mnd.mn.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu
njt88smithw: sorry.... my bad  :P12:06
njt88got it.12:06
smithwI always forget the order of ln, if it's link name or target first. every single time I have to make a link I must do a man ln, haha...12:06
njt88now for a reboot to see how things go12:06
njt88brb#12:06
computerpawitp cpu family: 6, model: 14, model name: genuine intel cpu... if these help12:07
flowingfireHi. :) I actually didn't see an AGP aperture setting anywhere in the bios... But I did find a setting that showed my primary video card as PCI, and I switched it to onboard... no noticable result though....12:07
pawitpcomputer: That doesn't help12:07
pawitpflowingfire: It's probably not AGP Aperture setting but something that allows you to set 32, 64 ,128, 256MB or something12:08
flowingfiredidn't see anything like that either... sorry :(12:08
pawitpflowingfire: Try editing xorg.conf then12:08
=== Nostferka [n=tinwell@host86-145-3-119.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
llutzcomputer: sudo dmidecode |grep -i cpu12:08
flowingfiregood ol xorg.conf... how many times have I screwed with thee and had to dpkg reconfigure thee!12:09
flowingfirei have a love/hate relationship with xorg, ya know... kinda like with Ubotu...12:09
flowingfireHey UBOTU!!! Your fly is showing!12:10
=== njt88 [n=nick@89.242.175.208] has joined #kubuntu
=== netsnooper [n=jan@pD9545EC2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== flowingfire torments ubotu
njt88smithw: cool.  100%  :D:D12:10
njt88smithw: thx for that dude12:10
flowingfire!life12:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:10
=== hyper_ch needs help with ktorrent: I have downloaded now all the feisty i386 isos and it's showing them as seeding... is there some way to remove them from the main windows and put them into a seperate one where only seeding files will be shown?
smithwsmithw: you're welcome...12:10
flowingfire!hygiene12:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hygiene - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:10
=== njt88 sees that smithw talkkks to himself hehe
smithwhahaha12:11
smithwsorry.12:11
njt88:P12:11
=== zig-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== computer [n=computer@c-71-198-250-117.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
njt88!ubuntueffects12:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ubuntueffects - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:12
njt88!ubuntu-effects12:12
ubotuFor help with 3d desktop effects applications or drivers please join #ubuntu-effects, someone there will be glad to help you. You can read http://forum.beryl-project.org/ for most common problems or questions.12:12
=== ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #kubuntu
computerpawitp srry had closed irc accidentally earlier, did the cpu info help? (was asking about whether it's normal to have two 1 ghz processors when my cpu is supposed to be 3ghz)12:13
pawitpcomputer: You're telling me some generic stuff12:14
=== bomber [n=bomber@c-71-233-8-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
computerpawitp yeah that's what i was afraid of lol12:14
pawitpcomputer: I need the model12:14
=== djdarkman__ [n=djdarkma@cl-86-125-161-151.cablelink.mures.rdsnet.ro] has joined #kubuntu
computerpawitp is there some command that shows my cpu model, i'm on kubuntu edgy, i used cat /proc/cpuinfo but that didn't give me anything useful, all generic info with that12:15
flowingfireOkay... I just edited xorg.conf and will ctrl-alt-backspace the x-server... wish me luck.....12:15
flowingfireor a few minutes of retrieving a backup with ensue12:15
computer!pastebin12:15
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:15
smithwnjt88: http://www.nongnu.org/lpi-manuals/lpi-102/html/ch02s02.html <- according to this, both you and me should put the wireless startup script on rc3.d, and not on rc2.d...12:15
=== asprire [n=jakab@catv-5984a3a1.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #kubuntu
flowingfireGERANAMOO!!!!!!12:15
pawitpcomputer: Sorry, you may try to ask someone else12:16
=== senior [n=senior@att193.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``what do I type to get to the root dir in Konsole?12:17
=== heretik [n=heretik@lns-bzn-20-82-64-53-51.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
pawitpAndrew``: cd /12:17
computerpawitp yeah thx alot for trying tho, that was a pretty generic question i asked =)12:17
llutzcomputer: sudo dmidecode |grep -A 18 "Processor Information"12:18
=== cox377 [n=cox@host-84-9-84-53.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== flowingfire [n=david@74-33-31-96.dsl1.mnd.mn.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@88.87.13.50] has joined #kubuntu
flowingfireWell, on a bright note, my xorg.conf and my x-server are working properly.  On a sore note, I just tested it and the black box bug is STILL HAPPENING.... lol and argh.12:19
computerllutz thx, trying that out12:19
computertesting something else12:19
computer!baddevice12:19
ubotuIf you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors12:19
flowingfire!black boxes12:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about black boxes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:19
virusavirusacan u help me with hacking?12:19
pawitp!blackbox12:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about blackbox - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:21
pawitpOn a very different thing12:21
pawitp!info blackbox12:21
ubotublackbox: Window manager for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.70.1-1.1ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 251 kB, installed size 768 kB12:21
computer!pastebin12:21
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)12:21
=== busfahrer [n=busfahre@unixboard/user/busfahrer] has joined #kubuntu
computerthx llutz, that worked =)12:22
Andrew``why does a folder show up in konqueror, but not via konsole?12:22
smithwAndrew``: are these folder which name starts with a dot?12:23
computerpawitp there's a bit more info provided in: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23865/, not sure if this is enough, but much better than b412:23
Andrew``smithw: nope12:23
computerthx for looking it over12:23
Andrew``it has a dot IN it12:23
Andrew``but not beginnjing with12:23
smithwAndrew``: which folder specifically are you talking about?12:24
flowingfirethanks for all the help everyone... gnite for now. :)12:24
=== Kepe{HUN} [n=user@ip-c1091e85.dir.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== OutoLumo [n=tuomas@ARouen-151-1-41-95.w90-22.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
smithwcomputer: I'm not exactly following you conversation, but I recall your CPU should be 3.0GHz... I don't think there even is a Core 2 Duo with 3.0Ghz...12:27
pawitpThat's why I need the model12:27
computerah yeah cool12:27
=== otaku_ [n=otaku@m145.net81-64-30.noos.fr] has joined #kubuntu
smithwpawitp: he just pasted, it's intel t2400, which (I guess) is core 2 duo meron.12:28
computerokies, srry for the random question, i'm pretty sure everythings in order, i was mildy curious =) srry for the trouble12:28
computerthx smithw too =)12:28
llutzt2400 is core-duo with 1.8GHz12:28
smithwit's conroe, sorry.12:29
computeric, so everything's normal right12:29
=== jeanvargant [n=jeanvarg@host151-248-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``smithw: the tcl1.50 folder in amsn12:31
Andrew``oops12:31
Andrew``in usr/lib12:32
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
njt88smithw: hmmmm... well, it is now not broke.... should i fix it???12:32
smithwAndrew``: I don't think it's going to help, but try ls -lah tcl*. I'd usually trust more ls than Konqueror, though.12:33
=== hyuma [n=hyuma@host62-89-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
smithwnjt88: it broke when you put it into rc3.d?12:33
=== spawn57 [n=sunil@n219078028211.netvigator.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Latty [n=Latty@host86-141-179-250.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
smithwnjt88: or did it "just don't work(c)"?12:34
hyumahello12:34
=== skarface [i=antix@ip68-12-173-115.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Mr_Pan [n=marcopan@host14-186.pool80116.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== guillem [n=guillem@62-43-113-156.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu
jeanvargantciao a tutti!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:35
smithwnjt88: sorry, I misread your question... don't bother fixing it. weirdly, when I type runlevel on konsole it reports runlevel 2 (?!?! should be 5!)... so, don't run the risk.12:37
=== nu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== tommix [n=pgw64@a82-93-70-187.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== Nostferka [n=tinwell@host81-129-252-135.range81-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== s330d3r [n=s330d3r@209-161-220-90.dsl.look.ca] has joined #kubuntu
pawitpsmithw: Ubuntu does not run on runlevel 512:40
smithwpawitp: any specific reason why?12:41
smithwor are just those old runlevel specifications deprecated?12:42
=== glauco1 [n=lib@host74-90.pool8249.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
makuseru!ati12:45
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:45
=== BudgetDedicated [n=BudgetDe@s5593c2e9.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== nu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== nuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``ok how do I use kate or kwite without root password access???12:49
=== cosass [n=jaime@217.216.59.163] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``I amuse do having root password12:49
=== steffen [n=steffen@p508167d4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``I am used to having root passwords12:50
=== nuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
smithwAndrew``: don't use root password unless specifically needed and you know what you're doing. you can open a root kate/kwrite on kde by typing alt+f2 and then typing kdesu kate (or kwrite)12:51
=== mlv [n=mlv@191.Red-88-16-107.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== cl9 [n=cl9@ws200.sevenservices.kolumbusasiakas.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== mlv [n=mlv@191.Red-88-16-107.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== hnsn [i=jh83@c83-255-135-241.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu
=== mrigns_ [n=mrigns@ACB0FAB7.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== matthew [n=matthew@untouchable.ubyt.sdjls.uniba.sk] has joined #kubuntu
=== s330d3r [n=s330d3r@209-161-220-90.dsl.look.ca] has joined #kubuntu
=== BluesKaj [n=blues@bas1-sudbury98-1177672422.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajHowdy all :)12:55
=== jf_ [n=jf@ip565e9e6d.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu
virusavirusahydraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa12:56
=== guigui1982 [n=guilhem@143.97.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== red_ [n=red@leibniz.catalyst.net.nz] has joined #kubuntu
=== guigui1982 [n=guilhem@143.97.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has left #kubuntu []
jf_newbie i can't see videos cause flash install fails12:59
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.120.75] has joined #kubuntu
=== TimotiST [n=Timoti@pool-3744.adsl.interware.hu] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajjf_: on feisty ? how are you installing it ?01:00
=== toni_ [n=toni@204.Red-88-0-141.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== adi [n=adi@85.159.160.196] has joined #kubuntu
jf_well when i try to play the video appears the warning you do not have the plug in i click on it to aotomatic install but it says install fails then i try manually i download but when i click open file to install nothing happen01:02
adihi guys can someone tell me how to mount a usb device so i can wr it on windows i mean  on windows the file system is FAT but if i mount the device with the -t vfat filesystem all files that i copy to that udb device cannot be seen in windows any suggestions?01:04
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.112.48] has joined #kubuntu
=== tahsin [n=tahsin@202.56.7.140] has joined #kubuntu
=== Zeelot [n=Zeelot@c-76-109-186-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
jf_now is working i got :)01:04
cox377can anyone recommend a terminal based bandwidth monitor that will show week / month stats?01:04
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-48.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
tahsinhow do i stop amarok from starting whenever i start linux ?01:05
=== gaston_ [n=gaston@cha92-4-82-224-227-165.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Andrew`` [n=andrew@202.43.231.52] has joined #kubuntu
cox377tahsin: look under sessions and it should be in start up,01:06
=== Chousuke_ is now known as Chousuke
adihi guys can someone tell me how to mount a usb device so i can wr it on windows i mean  on windows the file system is FAT but if i mount the device with the -t vfat filesystem all files that i copy to that udb device cannot be seen in windows any suggestions?01:06
=== ubufan [n=ubufan@pD9EC9107.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
tahsincox3777: how do i look under session ?01:06
=== cathal [n=cathal@89.101.192.70] has joined #kubuntu
=== Goliath23_ is now known as Goliath23
tahsincox377: how do i look under session ?01:08
=== thomas_ [n=thomas@ip72-223-48-180.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajadi, boot into windows and check there01:08
adii did its fat01:09
BluesKajtahsin:  at the login scrn01:09
tahsinok01:09
BluesKajand the files are readable , adi ?01:09
=== zig-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== tahsin [n=tahsin@202.56.7.134] has joined #kubuntu
tahsini couldnt find anything more than KDE,Default,Failsafe under session01:12
adiif i mount the usb device with the -t vfat copy a file then boot into windows i cnnot see the file i copied from linux01:12
=== harmental [n=ricardo@AGrenoble-152-1-15-28.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajtahsin:  check the kmenu , lock session01:13
BluesKajadi , maybe you should have the vfat app on the usb device as well01:14
adiwhat do you mean by the vfat app?01:14
tahsinBluesKaj: My problem is ...amarok always start whenever i start kubuntu...i want to stop it ...so how ?01:14
=== hoisn [n=hoisn@p57A36781.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== cathal_ [n=cathal@89.101.192.70] has joined #kubuntu
smithwtahsin: are you familiar with the terminal?01:15
jf_my password do not work in terminal01:15
BluesKajthe app that enables to read write to a fat32 fs01:15
smithwjf_: tty or konsole?01:15
tahsinsmithw: i always try to avoid terminal01:16
=== BluesKaj [n=blues@bas1-sudbury98-1177672422.dsl.bell.ca] has left #kubuntu []
=== neversfelde [n=neversfe@nrbg-4db44679.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu
tahsinsmithw: still im familiar01:16
=== BluesKaj [n=Blues@bas1-sudbury98-1177672422.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu
hyper_chanyone uses truecrypt here?01:16
smithwtahsin: terminal solution is quicker, gui solution is easier (if what I assume to be happening is what is actually happening). which do you prefer?01:17
tahsinsmithw: gui01:18
smithwtahsin: fair enough. first, when you log out kde, do you always close amarok? (I mean by clicking with the right button on its tray icon and selecting quit)?01:18
=== kristina [n=kristina@p57B3F8DC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ph8 [i=henri@85.234.155.91] has joined #kubuntu
kristinahi, when I try to launch gnome-hearts I get: **Error**: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file '/usr/share/pixmaps/gnome-games-common/cards/bonded.svg'01:19
tahsinsmithw: hey im sorry ill be back in 5 min01:19
=== Zambezi [i=Hideit@bnc.from.tx-shells.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== [4K^Javax] [n=javax@107.Red-81-34-202.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== _4strO [n=cedric@AStrasbourg-253-1-18-186.w86-204.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajkristina, are you using a cd ?01:20
=== bomber [n=bomber@c-71-233-8-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== allergen [n=allergen@89.2.176.163] has joined #kubuntu
=== tahsin_ [n=tahsin@202.56.7.131] has joined #kubuntu
tahsin_im back01:21
tahsin_smithw: yes i always close amarok01:22
smithwtahsin_: open konqueror, click view/show hidden files, and navigate to ~/.kde/Autostart. which files are there?01:23
kristinaBluesKaj: nope, kubuntu feisty... maybe I'm missing a gnome library? or is there a hearts equivalent for kde?01:23
Pensacolais there a way to disable smooth scrolling in konqueror?01:23
tahsin_smithw: its empty !01:24
tahsin_smithw: a .directory file is there01:24
smithwtahsin_: then try /usr/share/autostart01:24
BluesKajkristina, not that I'm aware01:25
tahsin_smithw: yup found many files01:25
tahsin_smithw: but cant see amarok01:25
BluesKajit should run in kde tho, that's strange, kristina01:26
=== DerHorst [n=Horst@e176122081.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajthe idea of a missing lib is very possible01:27
=== rostyk [n=rostyk@212.86.250.65] has joined #kubuntu
smithwtahsin_: hmm... try this, then. k menu, system settings, advanced, session manager. tell me which option is marked under the box "On Login".01:27
_4strOyop01:27
tahsin_smithw: restore previous session01:28
=== dave [n=dave@host86-130-54-203.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== njt88 [n=nick@89.242.175.208] has joined #kubuntu
smithwtahsin_: this means that, when you log in, any applications you had running the last time you logged out will be opened again. perhaps amarok is not being properly close. try switching to "start with an empty session" and see if that works.01:30
=== remy [n=remy@89.33.168.28] has joined #kubuntu
tahsin_smithw: yeah you mayb right ...mayb i didnt close amarok before i logged off01:30
=== dave [n=dave@host86-130-54-203.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Ilokaasu [n=matti@dsl-aur-ff27c000-33.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu
=== arafat [n=arafat@ppp-82-135-82-80.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu
tahsin_smithw: why does my pc get very slow when i use some desktop widget with superkaramba ?01:31
=== dave [n=dave@host86-130-54-203.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== jzilla [n=jzilla@ip70-180-136-191.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
smithwtahsin_: remember that, if you just click on the X button on amarok's window, it will continue running on the system tray. to fully close amarok, you have to click with the right button on its system tray icon and select quit.01:32
_4strOtahsin_: ctrl + esc01:32
tahsin_smithw: thanks for da info01:32
tahsin__4str0: then ?01:33
_4strOand then order by %user01:33
_4strOor %system01:33
smithwtahsin_: that depends on your cpu, video card, x settings, amount of ram... there's just too many variables.01:33
tahsin__4str0: then?01:33
_4strOyou will have an idea on what is working on your session01:33
tahsin_smithw: _4str0: is it beacuse i didnt intall my graphics driver?01:34
=== thomax [n=thomas@217-148-245-253.happymany.net] has joined #kubuntu
_4strOas smithw said it's depend on many factor01:34
=== epimeth [n=leroy@89-138-183-42.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #kubuntu
=== zig-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
smithwtahsin_: possibly, but not necessarily.01:35
=== SunStealth [n=sunsteal@c-5b81e255.030-101-6b6c6d10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu
tahsin_smithw: so how do i get my graphics card working ...i have nvdia riva tnt201:36
=== SunStealth [n=sunsteal@c-5b81e255.030-101-6b6c6d10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
=== Trevinho [n=Trevi@host226-165-static.104-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
smithwtahsin_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto <- this will walk you through the whole process.01:37
tahsin_smithw: thnx01:37
=== jzilla [n=jzilla@ip70-180-136-191.lv.lv.cox.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
tahsin_smithw: how do i make firefox my default browser instead of konqueror ?01:38
=== sanu01 [n=sanu01@212.49.84.40] has joined #kubuntu
smithwI'm not quite sure, as I haven't done that myself... Perhaps within Firefox's Edit/Preferences dialog.01:39
_4strOtahsin_: K / system settings / default application01:39
=== macconline [n=macconli@190.37.62.104] has joined #kubuntu
=== dhq [n=dhq@unaffiliated/dhq] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"]
tahsin__4str0: thnx01:39
=== pointwood [n=pointwoo@89.150.85.151] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajtahsin_, in the konsole : "sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser ", then make your choice01:40
=== xine [n=xine@d191-227-emerson-3.ucdavis.edu] has joined #kubuntu
tahsin_BluesKaj: i did it with K/system setting/default application01:41
tahsin_can you guys teach me how to install bootsplash theme ?01:42
BluesKajwell, i doubt it will stick , tahsin_ the cmnd i gave is permanent01:42
tahsin_BluesKaj: okay let me try it01:42
tahsin_BluesKaj: thnx its done01:43
tahsin_So how do install bootsplash themes?01:43
BluesKajgood01:43
tahsin_bootsplash themes?01:45
tahsin_BluesKaj: bootsplash01:45
=== harley [n=harley@68.93.227.247] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajtahsin_, you have to use sys/settings/appearnce/import themes...if you know where it is01:46
tahsin_BluesKaj: i want to change the kubuntu loading screen01:47
=== Edulix [n=edulix@32.Red-88-8-228.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajsplashscreen01:47
BluesKajin system settings01:48
tahsin_BluesKaj: that doesnt work01:48
tahsin_BluesKaj: thats just normal splash screen01:48
tahsin_BluesKaj: im talking about boot splash01:49
tahsin_BluesKaj: let me give u a link01:49
BluesKajdid you ;ool at the optins01:49
BluesKajlook at the options01:49
=== _3v1n0_ [n=Trevi@host226-165-static.104-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
tahsin_BluesKaj: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Fingerprint+Bootsplash+1024x768?content=2966201:49
=== LegolasV [n=whoeiii3@84-53-73-98.adsl.unet.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== westis [n=daniel@c-8b6fe055.630-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajwell if you have a link then import it to a file , and use import themes to retreive and install i t01:50
=== zach [n=zach@adsl-074-236-242-009.sip.bgk.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
tahsin_BluesKaj: i wana use that file01:50
=== crdlb [n=crdlb@unaffiliated/crdlb] has joined #kubuntu
zachGreets, everyone...01:50
tahsin_BluesKaj: so what do i have to do ?01:50
BluesKajdownload the file first01:50
_4strOno need01:51
tahsin_BluesKaj: then01:51
BluesKajin system settings /appearance /import themes/ ...navigate to the file01:52
westishi there. I just installed kubuntu-desktop from my original Ubuntu Feisty Fawn installation. But I have two issues: 1) I can't access my external hard drives (NTFS formatted), which I could in Gnome and 2) I can't change the language to Swedish in System Settings/Regional and language. Only US English is available, although Swedish is set as the system language...01:52
zachCan someone tell me how to find the PCI ID # of my wireless card? I've been looking through KControl, lspci, and KinfoCenter for over an hour and am starting to pull my hair out.01:52
tahsin_BluesKaj: that file isnt a .kcsrc file01:52
tahsin_BluesKaj: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/ThinkLinux?content=2649501:53
zachDoes anyone here know how to found out the PCI ID of a wireless card?01:55
tahsin_anyways gotta go01:55
=== caossat [n=caossat@89-172-182-169.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu
=== smithw [n=ingsoc@200-158-50-148.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
smithwhow nice, hard drive failed on me.01:56
=== Pensacola [n=pensacol@59.130-64-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKaj!wireless | zach01:57
ubotuzach: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:57
zachOk, thanks, BluesKaj.01:58
BluesKajwestis, do you have ntfs-3g and ntfs-config installed01:58
zachI hate to be one of those people just asking for an easy answer (I'm usually not, but I'm at the end of my wits with this), but do you know how to find out the the PCI ID of a device? I've ransacked KInfoCenter and KControl, and I'm coming up with nothing.01:59
=== cyber_brain_mfkg [n=cyber_br@212.200.171.120] has joined #kubuntu
tapasany hint on where to start looking for the slution to this bugreport?02:00
tapashttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/11840202:00
=== kain_ [n=kain@216.253.205.8] has joined #kubuntu
westisBluesKaj: no, I hadn't, installed them now. But I still can't access the external drives... They don't appear under /media/ as they did in Gnome and when I choose Open in New Window when I turn it on, nothing  happens...02:01
=== enigma [n=enigma@88.224.137.59] has joined #kubuntu
=== naught102 [n=naught10@202.43.235.56] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKaj!pastebin02:02
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)02:02
BluesKajzach , run a lspci and paste it02:02
=== pauljw [n=paul@pool123.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #kubuntu
zachBluesKaj: I'm already looking through a very specific step-by-step how-to on how to get everything up and running, and it looks rather promising, but I'm stuck on the step of finding out the PCI ID of the wireless card because it only shows how to find it using the GNOME utility, not the one for KDE02:02
zachK, one sec...02:02
BluesKajwestis, sys/settings/advanced/disc&filesystems/...check if they're listed02:03
zachhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23876/02:03
=== caossat [n=caossat@89-172-182-169.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu
=== sakabatou_ is now known as sakabatou
=== Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu
westisBluesKaj: yeah, they are listed there, as /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdg102:05
=== ench0 [n=encho_@192.122.223.34] has joined #kubuntu
westisbut no mount point02:06
=== aztun [n=aztun@81.202.143.147.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== wildchild [n=wildchil@Kal9-Kal3-r1.bater.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== wildchild is now known as wildchild_
BluesKajzach , either one of these : Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC (rev 01)...or : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)02:06
wildchild_;-D02:07
BluesKajwestis, try admin mode , then modify and the dialog will give you mount options ...but that as far as my knowledge takes me on external drives :(02:08
zachBluesKaj: Right, it's the Atheros one, but any ideas on where I might find the 8-character PCI ID # for it?02:08
=== DerHorst [n=Horst@e176122081.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu
westisBluesKaj: yeah, I'm trying that now and have given it a moont point, but I have no permission to access it,... But I'll play around. Thanks! Any idea about the language setting btw?02:09
BluesKajzach, granpa02:09
zach?02:09
BluesKajI;m old and a bit slow :)02:10
zachOhh, hehe. No worries. The smallest bit of help is appreciated. :D02:10
llutzzach: "lspci -x"02:10
BluesKajI'm looking for an editable file that might have the pci info ...hang on02:11
=== jf_ [n=chatzill@ip565e9e6d.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== caossat [n=caossat@89-172-182-169.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu
=== roconnor [n=roconnor@vhe-540354.sshn.net] has joined #kubuntu
llutzzach the "00:"-line shows the id in reverted order02:11
BluesKajzach, i think llutz , has your answer02:12
jf_firefox shut down when i try to open preference,02:12
llutzzach: paste the 5 lines, beginning with the one containing "atheros" to pastebin plz02:13
=== desti [n=desti@p5b01b35b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== djdarkman_ [n=djdarkma@cl-86-125-161-168.cablelink.mures.rdsnet.ro] has joined #kubuntu
zachhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23878/02:14
BluesKajwestis, to make major changes in system settings using admin mode (root) is the way to go ...check regional & language .02:14
=== utente [n=utente@host84-2-static.29-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
jf_any hints?02:14
llutzzach: should be: 168C:001A02:14
zachllutz: I already have 00:16:ce:0e:37:63, but that's just the MAC address, right? Nothing to do with the PCI ID?02:14
llutzzach: yep02:15
westisBluesKaj: using admin mode?02:15
zachAwesome. Thanks a mil, llutz02:15
=== nuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajyes westis02:15
zach*and BluesKaj02:15
llutzzach: np02:15
zachPeace out02:16
BluesKajI'm glad llutz came along02:16
westisBluesKaj: well, if I go to System Settings/Regional & Language and Install New Language, Swedish is greyed out. I have selected is as system language, but still everything is in English and I can only select US English in the Add Language list02:16
=== imagine [n=imagine@modemcable150.200-203-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu
llutzwestis: you'll need "language-pack-kde-sv"02:17
=== Philip5 [n=Philip@c83-253-39-49.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu
=== ArtMoonik_ [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== zig-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== adrian [n=adrian@host86-151-100-4.range86-151.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Linux_Galore [n=logan1@60-242-20-212.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
westisllutz: thanks!!02:19
=== DinK[UK] [n=DinK@cpc2-clif3-0-0-cust121.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== jager [n=jag@12-214-107-171.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu
llutzwestis: and maybe "kde-i18n-sv", "apt-cache search kde swedish" helps you02:20
BluesKajok westis , try a relogin02:20
=== juergen_ [n=juergen@pd9eb3a73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
westisBluesKaj: for the ext drive?02:20
BluesKajfor kubuntu02:21
westisyeah, but I thought you meant to get the ext drive changes working. But suppose you meant the language :) It's working now, just a few system settings still in English, I'll relogin in a moment02:22
=== jacques [n=jacques@218.199.34.152] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajllutz seems to know what to do with your probs ...I'm going to sit and learn :)02:22
westisI wonder if he'd know about the external drive issue too.... :)02:22
BluesKajllutz ?02:23
=== obvio171 [n=helder@201.72.61.113] has joined #kubuntu
llutz<- scrolling back....02:23
BluesKajkde-sv ...hmmm svenska ?02:24
westisBluesKaj: yep02:24
llutzBluesKaj: i think so, thought it was -sw :)02:24
=== mtn_man [i=Mtnman@adsl-70-142-63-136.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== olivier_ [n=olivier@86.67.10.153] has joined #kubuntu
llutzwestis: sorry no idea about you external drive02:24
=== nuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu ["Time]
westisstrange that it worked out of the box in Ubuntu....02:24
=== nuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajparents were suomi/svensk...stoll speak abit02:25
BluesKajI still speak a bit02:25
westisand the internal drives work just fine. Well, will Google around02:25
=== mtn_man [i=Mtnman@adsl-70-142-63-136.dsl.tul2ok.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
westisBluesKaj: cool! :) Kaj sounds Swedish :)02:25
BluesKajit is :)02:25
pawitp!google02:25
ubotuGoogle is a very popular search engine: http://www.google.com  -  Google also has a Linux-specific search engine: http://google.com/linux02:25
llutzBluesKaj: hehe, i'm going to visit sweden next month. parents in law live there but fortunately they're german too :)02:26
=== budg_ [n=budg@c211-30-41-33.mirnd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajllutz, westis...I've been in Canada since 1947 , when i was 4 yrs old so my swedish is pretty rusty and limited02:28
llutzBluesKaj: but still better than mine :)02:28
westis:)02:28
=== ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #kubuntu
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.112.48] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajI appreciate you knowledge of English , to be able to help out here :)02:29
BluesKajyour02:29
llutzunfortunately it's also very limited :(02:30
BluesKajmost europeans with any education and /or intelligence seem to speak English very well , in my experience02:31
smithwBluesKaj, llutz: I found out that reading conversations here and on another channels, reading English documents etc. is the best way for any non-native English speaker to learn the language. Better than any English schools...02:32
=== jacques [n=jacques@218.199.34.152] has joined #kubuntu
llutzBluesKaj: except the poms we have to learn a foreign language if we don't want to be limited to our own country02:32
llutzsmithw: that's true02:32
smithwit's only worse than actually living in English speaking country.02:32
=== DinK[UK] is away: Gone away for now.
=== DinK[UK] is now known as DinK[UK] -Aweh
smithw*an02:32
=== mykeul [n=mykeul@jem75-1-87-88-118-123.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajIt's good to have the chance to exercise ones language skills on the interent/irc etc02:34
=== weiser [n=weiser@fh103n1-m-hy-gr100.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajmy spelling suffers from lack of keyboard skills :)02:35
llutzBluesKaj: don't try to learn germann in german irc-chans :)02:35
llutz-n02:35
BluesKajI can't speak german anyway ...i lil french and swedish is abou tit02:35
=== Nostferka [n=tinwell@host217-44-135-209.range217-44.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
jacquessomeone can tell me how I can st up my router02:35
smithw!router02:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about router - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:36
llutzjacques: set-up what?02:36
BluesKajjacques, wireless ?02:36
=== redeyes [n=redeyes@host157-153-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
jacquesI bought a wireless router and I am not able to connect my computer02:36
=== Andrew`` [n=andrew@202.43.231.52] has joined #kubuntu
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Lam_ [n=Lam@128.227.23.106] has joined #kubuntu
=== bomber [n=bomber@c-71-233-8-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajbrb ...system settings crash02:41
=== BluesKaj [n=Blues@bas1-sudbury98-1177672422.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu
=== paolo_ [n=paolo@87.19.105.249] has joined #kubuntu
=== Kite_DH [n=Kite_DH@p57B350B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== jf_ [n=chatzill@ip565e9e6d.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
cox377does anyone know of a terminal based IP bandwidth monitor that would show total usage month etc?02:47
=== aldin [n=aldin@cm-4904.europronet.ba] has joined #kubuntu
aldinanyone knows IRC for kommander program or anyone here to help me with that app02:48
=== sebbar__ [n=sebbar@p57B3E907.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajaldin, look in synaptic or adept for kommander or in the terminal , type ;  'sudo apt-get install kommander '02:51
=== duns_s [n=duns_s@mnhm-590c1e3e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== makuseru [n=max@163.106.40.24.aeneasdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== bomber [n=bomber@c-71-233-8-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ReMiiRuru [n=l@host-87-99-45-55.lanet.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== djdarkman__ [n=djdarkma@fl-86-120-23-149.fiberlink.mures.rdsnet.ro] has joined #kubuntu
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajcox377, check this site : http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Monitoring/Network/02:55
=== joachim [n=joachim@lns-bzn-22-82-249-67-31.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechild] has joined #kubuntu
aldinBluesKaj: i installed it, but thought for help with some widgets...02:56
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== rose [n=rose@210-84-18-226.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #kubuntu
=== zig-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== blackflag [n=stefan@212.144.239.86] has joined #kubuntu
=== visik7 [n=dksakd@unaffiliated/visik7] has joined #kubuntu
=== just-this-time [n=user@87.68.196.218] has joined #kubuntu
westisBluesKaj & llutz: I found help in another channel about mounting external drives. For the user to have permission to access it it needs to be mounted with mount -o uid=1000 (or whatever the password of the user is in /etc/passwd03:03
just-this-timecable internet connects thru script I need to avoid end user messsing with command line03:03
just-this-timehow do I make it work from clickin icon. the cable internet dialer I mean03:04
=== caossat_ [n=caossat@89-172-161-106.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu
=== bomber [n=bomber@c-71-233-8-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
smithwjust-this-time: you can make a .desktop file and put it on the user's desktop.03:05
=== Shellex [n=root@cpe-90-157-180-120.static.amis.net] has joined #kubuntu
ReMiiRuruHow do I fix: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23881/03:05
just-this-timesmithw: and ask it to run a script ?03:05
=== ReMiiRuru adds questionmark at the end of sentence
smithwtake a look at /etc/share/autorun desktop files and you'll get a better understanding of what I'm talking about03:05
smithwjust-this-time: precisely. just name it on the Exec= directive.03:06
=== AstroGirl [n=manda@202.172.113.180] has joined #kubuntu
just-this-timeother issue03:07
just-this-timesorry03:07
just-this-timeclamav depends on clamav-freshclam | clamav-data; however:03:07
just-this-time  Package clamav-freshclam is not configured yet.03:07
smithwsorry, I know nothing about clamav or any other antiviruses for linux. my network has just one linux box and one mac, so I don't use any antivirus at all.03:08
=== bomber [n=bomber@c-71-233-8-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== user_ [n=user@84.94.124.192.cable.012.net.il] has joined #kubuntu
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.112.48] has joined #kubuntu
=== Jose [n=Maria-41@ip565e9e6d.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== vankaj [n=vankaj@c83-254-188-167.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu
=== ddaedalus [n=bartek@sub87-230-126-200.he-dsl.de] has joined #kubuntu
Josei have linux and windows on my pc, uninstalling linux to reinstall will afect my data on windows?03:15
=== Cavallek [n=dev@193.95.229.168] has joined #kubuntu
ReMiiRuruJose: No. Unless you format windows partitions or something silly like that.03:16
=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu
Josehow do i uninstall linux03:17
=== kat [n=kat@138-45.187-72.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== patt [n=patt@c-71-226-69-225.hsd1.ms.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
ReMiiRuruJose: But... why do you want to reinstall linux in first place? Usually it shouldn't be necessary.03:18
Joseis showing to many problems i have been for month trying to solve and i can not03:19
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.112.48] has joined #kubuntu
llutzJose: just delete the linux-partition and create a new one (when in win)03:20
=== virusavirusa [n=virusa@host-88-210-210-93.adsl.caucasus.net] has joined #kubuntu
Josei guess i have to to that from linux itself and not from windows right?03:22
=== voidmage-away [n=voidmage@adsl-068-209-120-161.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
llutzJose: nope, you can do it from win03:23
llutzJose: xp shows you "unknown partition", just delete it03:24
=== scarecrow [n=akira28@adsl-76-194-82-69.dsl.wlfrct.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
Joseno ia have try so many times without succes do i need special softwrae to do that or is in windows something to delete partitions03:24
=== nuno [n=nuno@217.129.211.180] has joined #kubuntu
=== tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has joined #kubuntu
llutzJose: that was in w98/95/me/3.1 times03:25
=== Edulix [n=edulix@32.Red-88-8-228.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== becky [n=becky@81-86-140-231.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== acemo [n=acemoo@ip51ce3304.speed.planet.nl] has joined #kubuntu
Josecould you tell me what are the steps to delete it03:26
llutzJose: ask in a win-channel03:27
JoseOK03:27
ReMiiRuruCan't he use partition manager from linux installer, if it's in his distro installer? He wants to reinstall it anyway after all.03:28
=== tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== smithw is now known as smithw`asleep
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@host51-39.pool8253.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== patt is now known as patt__MysticTK
=== ubuntu_ is now known as ubuntu__
=== ubuntu__ is now known as ubuntu_
=== work [n=work@R722b.r.ppp-pool.de] has joined #kubuntu
ubuntu_jhjhghj03:30
=== dewd [n=mark@84.243.234.130] has joined #kubuntu
acemocould anyone see if they can unpack this? it seems to not be working for me atm.. :/03:32
acemohttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kate+Project+Manager+Plugin+(KPMP)?content=4265303:32
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== glauco1 [n=lib@host156-145-dynamic.55-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== LjL [n=ljl@ubuntu/member/ljl] has joined #kubuntu
=== bomber [n=bomber@c-71-233-8-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== csills [n=csills@c-71-59-52-223.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
bomberanyone here use nvivia drivers03:36
ReMiiRurubomber: I do.03:36
=== westis [n=daniel@c-8b6fe055.630-1-64736c10.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has left #kubuntu []
bomberdo you run feisty?03:36
ReMiiRuruYup. 64bit03:36
bomberi been trying to get other than the nv drivers to work with no luck03:37
=== fuel [n=ajay@59.92.36.225] has joined #kubuntu
bomberwhich ones do you use?03:37
=== Kartibok [n=jim@host217-43-51-195.range217-43.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
fuelI have installed apache on kubuntu. where is the server directory ?03:38
=== wsjunior [n=wsjunior@200.193.226.175] has joined #kubuntu
fuelon suse it used to be in /srv03:38
ReMiiRurubomber: First, what happens when you install nvidia drivers and then _reboot_?03:38
=== ubuntu_ [n=^KrIsInK@88.87.13.50] has joined #kubuntu
wsjuniorhi guys. i have slow tranfers using usb2 is there any way to solve this? it just happens with large files03:38
=== ubuntu__ [n=ubuntu@nan92-1-82-67-171-108.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
wsjuniorit seems its a know problem, anybody know a solution?03:39
=== dan_ [n=dan@c-24-13-41-204.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
wsjuniorsomething related to sync and async03:39
fuelprobably your drive has slow read and write rate03:39
bomberwell looking through the repositorys i only find the nvidia-glx and nvidia-glx-new and i tried both but didnt reboot ... i just restarted x03:39
bomberand it wouldnt start...03:39
wsjuniorfuel: no, in windows its much quicker03:40
ReMiiRurubomber: Well, did you get any errors? Or freeze+black screen?03:40
=== BudgetDedicated [n=BudgetDe@s5593c9b1.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #kubuntu
bomberi had to go back and edit the xorg.conf file manually and turn it back to "nv" for the drivers03:40
bomberi believe it was screen 0 not found03:40
bomberwhich ones do you recommend?03:41
bomberi'll try it again and write down the errors03:41
=== dragon [n=dragon@85-18-14-39.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== gary_ [n=gary@user-5445277f.lns4-c11.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
ReMiiRuruwait03:41
dragonplease i need help03:41
fuelwsjunior: hmmm...... I am not sure.03:41
fuelwsjunior: or better i dont know03:41
fuel!apache03:41
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)03:41
dragonit's very important , i done something wrong :(03:42
ReMiiRurubomber: when it fails run just type 'sudo nvidia-bug-report.sh' and it will create file with aaall logs. Very helpful.03:42
wsjuniorfuel: http://kerneltrap.org/node/693303:42
wsjuniorsomething like this03:42
dragoni have done rm -r on a samba devile03:42
dragondevice03:42
wsjuniordoes anybody else noticed slow transfer rates using usb 2?03:43
dragonpls somebody can tell me how can i recover data in samba disk ?03:43
fuelwsjunior: well I did have the same problem on suse 1003:43
=== rdallarmi [n=rdallarm@72.Red-88-1-230.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
dragonplease03:43
=== Smooph [n=Smooph@p54a76f25.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
bomberReMiiRuru:  ok i'll try now and do that... wher does it store the file?03:43
fueldragon : did you use rm ?03:43
ReMiiRuruin your home directory03:43
bomberok thanks03:43
wsjunior"Maybe your distribution mounts you USB hard disk with the "sync" mount option enabled?"03:43
fuelon linux its not possible to recover data once its deleted. (by software atleast)03:44
=== weiser_ [n=weiser@fh103n1-m-hy-gr100.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu
wsjuniordoes kubuntu does that for usb 2 devices?03:44
fuelno kubuntu does not use sync03:44
dragoni have done rm -r on the samba mount point03:44
fuelcheck out the mstab03:44
fueldragon: no, I dont want to sound negative, but its not possible to recover on linux03:44
=== [UF] JollyJoker [n=jollyjok@pD950ABE3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
bombershould i try the nvidia-glx or the nvidia-glx-new?03:45
bomberbrb03:46
=== ReMiiRuru [n=l@host-87-99-45-55.lanet.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== bomber [n=bomber@c-71-233-8-127.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ToyMan [n=Stuart@74-32-22-252.dsl1.mdl.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== luxtin [n=luxtin@gar31-3-82-234-51-103.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
bomberboo yea03:50
bomberthanks a lot.... i for some reason never tried rebooting03:50
bomberall set now03:51
=== borgxyz [n=borgxyz@pool-72-68-4-133.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Linux_Galore is now known as Linux_Galore_
ReMiiRurubomber: oh, that's great :)03:52
=== tackat [n=tackat@p5493C798.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== aldin [n=aldin@cm-4904.europronet.ba] has joined #kubuntu
=== pollyo [n=pollyo@c-68-81-43-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu []
bomberyea... make a huge difference03:53
=== pj [n=pj@222.127.93.124] has joined #kubuntu
bomberwhats the reboot do? activate the drivers in the kernel?  I figured it was x only... so i restarted x03:54
=== GrueTamer [n=tg@CPE-72-133-203-78.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== jrenato [n=jrenato@201-75-100-138-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #kubuntu
=== pj is now known as silverdrone
ReMiiRurubomber: there's some difference in what nvidia drivers do and nv ones on startup, I don't remember what it was, but someone explained it to me before.03:55
bomberno biigie at least they are going now03:55
bomberthanks again03:56
=== sean__ is now known as SeanTater
=== pag [n=pavel@cs181123229.pp.htv.fi] has joined #kubuntu
=== bomber dcc's ReMiiRuru a giant trout to slap someone around with
ReMiiRuruLol, no problems and thanks for trout :303:57
=== virusavirusa [n=virusa@host-88-210-210-93.adsl.caucasus.net] has joined #kubuntu
acemocould anyone see if they can unpack this? it seems to not be working for me atm.. :/03:57
acemohttp://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Kate+Project+Manager+Plugin+(KPMP)?content=4265303:58
=== andreas_ [n=andreas@p50901275.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== jmichaelx [n=james@c-71-193-111-127.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== XoKeBeR [n=ZoKeBeR@190.72.148.16] has joined #kubuntu
=== aroo [n=justin@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu []
=== rouzic [n=rouzic@212.145.63.25] has joined #kubuntu
=== gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #kubuntu
=== aroo [n=justin@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== LasseP [n=xerox@c-4476e255.010-198-73746f32.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu
neojacemo: i made a deb of it yesturday04:02
=== thomax_ [n=thomas@217-148-244-174.happymany.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== jacques [n=jacques@218.199.34.152] has joined #kubuntu
acemoneoj: where could i find that .deb? =)04:03
=== daphbobo_ is now known as daphbobo
=== _czessi is now known as Czessi
=== andreas_ [n=andreas@p50901275.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``can I ask you guys what JDK file I need to download? .rpm.bin or just .bin?04:04
neojacemo: i made it for my own use, its a simple checkinstall: http://joen.infa.fi/projectmanager_0.1-1_i386.deb04:04
neojno fancy description etc ;)04:05
=== Vincent_k [n=vincent@c83-251-31-41.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu
acemoneoj: as long as it works with default kubuntu installation im happy ^^04:05
neojacemo: worked for me :) kubuntu feisty04:05
acemoAndrew``: pick the .bin04:06
=== chris_ [n=chris@cp13071-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== ^RiaN^ [n=kvirc@203.176.179.42] has joined #kubuntu
acemoneoj: works here too =) thanks alot04:07
=== weiser [n=weiser@fh103n1-m-hy-gr100.ias.bredband.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu
neojacemo: yay, np :)04:07
^RiaN^hiii everyone04:07
=== chris_ is now known as chrismir
=== Eleniondil [n=eric@pon77-1-88-167-48-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== jorik808 [n=olmo@d54C3FA9F.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu
=== ericj2190 [n=eric@cdm-75-109-86-203.asbnva.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ReMiiRuru [n=l@host-87-99-45-55.lanet.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== Jazon [n=arkygeek@89.242.175.208] has joined #kubuntu
=== dominik_ [n=chatzill@212-139-105-197.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu
dominik_Hello world!!104:17
=== busfahrer [n=busfahre@unixboard/user/busfahrer] has joined #kubuntu
Andrew``how do I go one level up in a directory in Konsole??04:21
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.112.48] has joined #kubuntu
GrueTamercd ..04:21
llutzAndrew``: cd ..04:21
=== maria [n=maria@cpc1-pool8-0-0-cust476.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== kirill [n=kirill@as-10-08.lns2-4c.kharkov.ukrtel.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.112.48] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== acemo [n=acemoo@ip51ce3304.speed.planet.nl] has left #kubuntu []
=== mendred [n=mendred@59.93.95.190] has joined #kubuntu
=== ReMiiRuru [n=l@host-87-99-45-55.lanet.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== jacques [n=jacques@218.199.34.152] has joined #kubuntu
=== computer [n=computer@c-24-7-97-253.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Nostferka is now known as Nostferka_
=== huashuai [n=huashuai@213.101.209.237] has joined #kubuntu
=== Nostferka_ is now known as Nostferka
=== computer [n=computer@c-24-7-97-253.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Phazeman_ [i=phazeman@tra.ppi.st] has joined #kubuntu
=== Young_Druid [n=hanabi@217.150.45.157] has joined #kubuntu
soulrider_Andrew``: cd ..04:29
soulrider_mind the space between cd and ..04:29
=== computer is now known as tada
=== tada is now known as SmallMac
=== alex_ [n=alex@91.145.225.104] has joined #kubuntu
=== nahema [n=nahema@87.217.1.108] has joined #kubuntu
=== jmichaelx [n=james@c-71-193-111-127.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== alex_ is now known as olex
=== olex is now known as olexander
=== gthor [n=gthor@port-83-236-81-78.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #kubuntu
ReMiiRuruDoes anyone know how to fix errors like this? -> 'Fontconfig warning: no <cachedir> elements found. Check configuration.' whenever I try to start many applications?04:33
gthortest04:33
=== sebbar__ [n=sebbar@p57b3d760.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Zackson [n=zion@200.82.222.99] has joined #kubuntu
soulrider_ReMiiRuru: KDE applications ?04:35
=== soulrider_ is now known as soulrider
soulrideror applications in a console ?04:35
=== hatta [n=hatta@ip72-206-122-52.om.om.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Edulix [n=edulix@32.Red-88-8-228.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
=== eye_ [n=eye@201.198.1.182] has joined #kubuntu
hattaso I upgraded to feisty and it left me in xfce04:35
olexanderanybody from russia or ukraine?04:36
hattaI tried installing xubuntu-desktop again but it didn't change anything04:36
ReMiiRurusoulrider: KDE applications, for example 'kate'04:36
hattastartkde is still in my ~/.xinitrc04:36
soulrider!ru | olexander04:36
ubotuolexander:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke04:36
hattahow do I get back to kde?04:36
=== eye_ [n=eye@201.198.1.182] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
soulriderhatta: log out and clickt he session button, then choose XFCE04:36
olexanderthanks04:37
soulriderReMiiRuru: no idea =/ try restarting x04:37
ReMiiRuruHmm, I just found out they are harmless and are caused by having old fonts.conf without <cachedir> entries.04:37
ReMiiRurunow, what do I do to get new fonts.conf with <cachedir> entries?04:37
soulriderReMiiRuru: can you update the font.conf ?04:37
ReMiiRurusoulrider: how? T_T04:38
=== cheuston [n=cheuston@bas6-toronto63-1128677199.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu
soulriderReMiiRuru: i could pastebin mine, but i dont know if it can break anything04:38
soulriderdid you install any fonts or something? or did it allways do that04:38
ReMiiRuruI did install some asian fonts, I think it was what borked things.04:39
soulrideruh, do you *need* them ?04:39
=== poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-70-78.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
ReMiiRurusoulrider: nah, I might try uninstalling them, I'll just get their names first.04:40
=== Young_Druid [n=hanabi@217.150.45.157] has left #kubuntu []
=== pauljw_ [n=paul@pool123.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #kubuntu
soulriderdidnt you use a deb package ?04:40
=== mauri [n=mauri@host174-206-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== mado [n=mario@cm56-131-10.liwest.at] has joined #kubuntu
hattathank soulrider that worked04:41
madooy guys ... hello ...04:41
ReMiiRuruI apt-getted them...04:41
=== eye_ [n=eye@201.198.1.182] has joined #kubuntu
soulriderhatta:  :)04:41
soulriderReMiiRuru: then you can uninstallt hem easily04:41
soulriderhi mado04:41
madoenglish isn't my mother-tongue but i hope you can help me ... hello soulrider04:41
madohttp://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/116104:41
soulrider!de04:42
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de04:42
=== RedKrieg [n=RedKrieg@ip68-230-209-186.rd.hr.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
soulridermaybe that helps04:42
madoi already showed this in an kubuntu-channel in which my mother-tongue is spoken04:42
=== floyd [n=floyd@p5496998c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
ReMiiRuruhmm, that error appears even during removal of those fonts. neat.04:42
soulriderlol ReMiiRuru04:42
=== floyd [n=floyd@p5496998c.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
madobut i wanted to know what you guys think ... more heads are better than less heads04:42
soulridermado: i have never seen that before04:42
soulriderallt he pros seem to be asleep now, try in #debian or #ubuntu too04:43
madowell ... i get this error message when i want to start the kubuntu installation on my father's pc04:43
=== Flosoft [n=florian@213.219.164.104.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #kubuntu
soulrideroh04:43
soulriderso its not isntalled yet04:43
soulrideruhm04:43
soulriderhave you tried the safe graphics mode ?04:43
=== PhinnFort [n=martin@unaffiliated/phinnfort] has joined #kubuntu
madono04:44
soulridertry it and see what happens04:44
madook04:44
=== Raumkraut [n=Raumkrau@cust227-dsl44.idnet.net] has joined #kubuntu
madoi will come back here when i know what happened04:44
ReMiiRuruOh, I got it fixed, I know what borked things now.04:45
PhinnForthow can I copy&paste while keeping the formatting?04:45
soulriderReMiiRuru: yeah04:45
soulriderPhinnFort: where? into here ?04:45
PhinnFortkword, or openoffice?04:45
=== percival [n=percival@200.223.161.11] has joined #kubuntu
=== lunixman [n=yudi@222.126.101.15] has joined #kubuntu
=== Zeelot [n=Zeelot@c-76-109-186-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
lunixmanhello04:46
=== Flosoft [n=florian@213.219.164.104.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
ReMiiRurusoulrider: those weren't fonts that I just uninstalled... I realized one of operations I did 5 days ago changed my fonts.conf >_>04:46
lunixmani have one physical harddrive with multiple partitions04:46
ReMiiRurubut I had backup~04:46
lunixmanunfortunately ubuntu didnt automatically detect them, what should i do?04:46
soulriderhello lunixman04:46
lunixmani know theres a proggie that helps detect mountable devices04:46
soulriderlunixman: do you know the numbers? and do you know where you wanna mount them ?04:46
lunixmanjust forgot what it iis04:46
lunixmanyes04:46
lunixmanhda504:46
soulrideruhm, no idea04:46
soulriderok, good04:47
soulriderhave you ever edited fstab ?04:47
lunixmanlast time i remember i typed in a command that automatically detects extra partitions04:47
lunixmanyep04:47
llutzlunixman: sudo fdisk -l04:47
PhinnFortsoulrider: how about that copying and pasting?04:47
=== ^RiaN^ [n=kvirc@203.176.179.42] has joined #kubuntu
soulriderlunixman: youre gonna have to edit fstab and add that partition04:47
=== aliasrush [n=aliasrus@cpe-024-211-104-040.sc.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
ReMiiRuruOh, fixened it even better.~04:47
soulriderPhinnFort: im not sure, AFAIK they keep the formatting, but im really not sure04:47
=== borgxyz [n=borgxyz@pool-72-68-4-133.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
lunixmanok thanks ill try that out04:48
PhinnFortsoulrider: well, it keeps some formatting, but only the useless one04:48
PhinnFortsoulrider: I have some super/subscript, and that it doesn't keep, but text size it keeps04:48
soulrideroh04:48
=== franco [n=franco@host229-117-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
soulriderno idea then04:49
soulrideri rarely use office actually04:49
=== Zackson [n=zion@200.82.222.99] has joined #kubuntu
=== weedar [n=weedar@084202105009.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #kubuntu
=== dr_willis [n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortwell, it's a PITA, and it doesn't even keep it when I move it around inside the document04:49
soulridercan you save the document adn open it with the program youre copying to ?04:50
=== BluesKaj [n=blues@bas1-sudbury98-1177672422.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortsoulrider: doesn't help, since I need to move it around04:50
=== Secutor [n=mark@c-67-169-16-102.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
soulrideroh04:50
PhinnFortit's chemical formulas from several documents, that I need to merge04:50
soulrideroh04:50
lunixmanok04:50
lunixmani did the sudo fdisk -l command04:50
soulrideri hanvt sued those in a while :P04:51
lunixmanit only detected my hda504:51
PhinnFort:P04:51
lunixmanbut its still not in my media folder04:51
=== BluesKaj [n=blues@bas1-sudbury98-1177672422.dsl.bell.ca] has left #kubuntu []
=== borgxyz [n=borgxyz@pool-72-68-4-133.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
soulriderlunixman: i suggest you edit fstab yourself, its quite easy actually04:51
=== Kepe{HUN} [n=user@ip-c1091e85.dir.hu] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willislunixman,  try 'sudo fdisk -l' ?04:52
dr_willislearning the ins and outs of the fstab file - is a very handy skill to learn04:53
lunixmanyeah i tried it04:53
lunixmanit only detected my hda504:53
=== nailz [n=n0va@cpc1-cani1-0-0-cust12.renf.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== tmbg [i=tmbg@gateway/gpg-tor/key-0x3DA923CF] has joined #kubuntu
lunixmanweird though, it detected it04:53
lunixmanbut i cant access it04:53
=== benjamin [n=benjamin@adsl-89-217-48-166.adslplus.ch] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisyou mean your 'user' cant access it?04:55
ReMiiRuruWhen I apt-get things, are install packages that were downloaded kept on hard drive or deleted?04:55
PhinnFortReMiiRuru: kept04:55
dr_willisReMiiRuru,  they are kept in /var/cache/apt for a while.04:55
dr_willisi think thats the roght place.04:55
lunixmanyeah04:55
PhinnFortuntil you delete them04:55
=== virusavirusa [n=virusa@host-88-210-210-93.adsl.caucasus.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
lunixmaneven as root its not there04:55
=== leo [n=leo@71.94.87.99] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortlunixman: have you rebooted after editing fstab?04:56
lunixmannot yet04:56
ReMiiRuruPhinnFort: dr_willis: Thanks for info~04:56
lunixmanshould i just type in the device name and mount point?04:56
lunixmanis that all i need to do04:56
=== brocoli [n=brocoli@194-217-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortyw04:56
lunixmanfor example04:56
lunixman/dev/hda5 /media/hda5?04:57
=== XoKeBeR [n=ZoKeBeR@190.72.148.16] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisthere more to the fstab then that04:57
soulrideryeah lunixman, you need some more stuff04:57
dr_willisthe allredy existing lines in fstab can serve as an examplke.04:57
soulriderwhat you can do is copy one of the entries04:57
dr_willisthen of course theres 'man fstab' :)04:57
soulriderof another partition youre using04:57
benjaminhi, how do I search and delete with the command line? find . -name 'searchstring' <delete the result>04:58
benjaminI tryed something like > rm $1 and the like, buth nothing worked04:59
llutzbenjamin: find... -exec rm {} \;04:59
=== Etrange [n=kiwikill@rny93-6-82-245-164-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Tets [n=Tets@pra-s2938.adsl.dial-up.cz] has joined #kubuntu
benjaminllutz: cool thanks05:00
llutzbenjamin: or: find . -name foo  -print | xargs rm05:00
=== grxmrx [n=grxmrx@user12.112.udn.pl] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willistheres lots of find examples out05:01
=== ikonkayes [n=ikonkaye@196.200.85.252] has joined #kubuntu
dr_williswatch out for files with spaces in their names05:01
=== mauri [n=mauri@host174-206-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== njt88 [n=nick@89.242.175.208] has joined #kubuntu
llutzbenjamin: filenames with spaces: find . -name foo  -print0 | xargs -0 rm05:03
llutz^^ gnu-find/xargs05:03
=== rbrunhuber [n=rbrunhub@p54975EC4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== gemidjy [n=gemidjy@unaffiliated/gemidjy] has joined #kubuntu
=== DJServers [n=serverpc@53573447.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== vit [n=vit@190.75.78.226] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
=== poningru_ [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
DJServershey ik have downloaded a .iso file but i have no cd burner what to do now?05:07
=== borgxyz [n=borgxyz@pool-72-68-4-133.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisdepends on what you are trying to do. :)05:07
llutzDJServers: delete the iso05:07
DJServersi want to install it05:08
=== david__ [n=david@248.Red-83-50-149.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisllutz,  heh - i was being nice.05:08
=== mauri_ [n=mauri@host174-206-dynamic.58-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisDJServers,  and what is 'it' exactly you are trying to install and to what are you trying to install it to?05:08
llutzDJServers: afaik ubuntu doen't support "fromiso"05:08
llutzdoesn't05:08
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.112.48] has joined #kubuntu
DJServerswell does it matter what it is?05:09
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.112.48] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
dr_willisall things might matter.05:09
dr_willisyou want to some how boot an arbitary iso image file = Not going to happen05:10
=== mendred [n=mendred@59.93.95.190] has joined #kubuntu
DJServersno not boot05:10
DJServersjust open it now and install05:10
dr_willisNow ya could perhaps use vmware and some how get around it.05:10
dr_willisDJServers,  booting the cd is normally how the installer works05:10
llutzDJServers: sudo mount -o loop /your/file.iso /mnt05:10
DJServersno this one is insert when you pc is started up and install05:10
dr_willisDJServers,  now ya know why we asked WHAT the specific iso file is..05:11
DJServerswhat does sudo mount -o loop /your/file.iso /mnt do?05:11
dr_willisubuntu, kubuntu, puppylinux, some game?05:11
dr_willis!iso05:11
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.05:11
llutzDJServers: so forget above, remove .iso if you can't burn it on cd/dvd.05:12
DJServersno05:12
llutzDJServers: you have to burn it on cd/dvd to start your PC from it05:13
=== hydh [n=hydh@ppp-88-217-46-24.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== bipolar [n=bflong@70.44.53.89] has joined #kubuntu
DJServersbut i dont have to start my pc from it!05:14
=== dr_willis wonders what the exact iso file is then.
dr_willisif its a simple game/program that normally ya just run its isntaller.. then mount the .iso and  access it as normal05:15
llutzDJServers: the mount-command mounts that iso, you can access data in directory /mnt then05:15
=== fuel [n=ajay@59.92.36.225] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== Panda200x [n=niallmcc@user-514f3258.l2.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.112.48] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortuse acetoneiso05:16
PhinnFortDJServers: search on kde-apps.org for acetoneiso, download the ubuntu package, and install it05:16
PhinnFortit should help you05:16
=== zhan [n=zhan@60.166.112.48] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
DJServerswhat is that?05:18
=== thomax [n=thomas@217-148-244-174.happymany.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== manton [n=manton@adsl-69-225-39-247.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu
olexanderhow can I download firefox via IRC05:19
=== bekan [n=bekan@lak-73-229.wohnheime.ruhr-uni-bochum.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== visik7 [n=dksakd@unaffiliated/visik7] has joined #kubuntu
=== Black5un [n=mr@cpe-71-79-229-244.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
DJServerswhen i click on the download it loads in kate?05:20
=== ceros [n=user@c-76-111-84-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
mantonI'm having trouble with my dsl internet connection. It isn't automatically starting when I boot up kubuntu. I have to go into network and turn it off, then back on again for it to work. Anyone help?05:21
dr_willisolexander,  not very easially. cant use the package manager>05:21
dr_willis?05:21
dr_willismanton,  if ya can do that from the shell.  ya could put the commands in rc.local05:22
mantondr_will, how do I do that?05:22
=== alexalux [n=alexalux@h81-88-114-203.rev.domonet.ru] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortDJServers: right click and select save to05:23
dr_willis/etc/init.d/networking restart      'might kick it in the head' if so. then add that command to the rc.local file in /etc05:23
DJServersehm...05:23
DJServersokay05:23
mantondr_willis, how do I do that? And have you heard of this problem before?05:24
DJServersi never download packs :p just sudo apt-get install AcetoneISO-6.7.tar.gz05:24
DJServers?/05:24
PhinnFortDJServers: isn't there a .deb there?05:24
=== rollerskatejamms [n=rollersk@pool-71-249-99-9.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
DJServerso wait a sec05:24
rollerskatejammsI'm not saying this to be a troll, but why does it seem like Kubuntu is ten times more buggy then Ubuntu?05:25
mantondr_willis, I typed that in the terminal, but it said "fail"05:25
PhinnFortrollerskatejamms: well, you awfully seem like a troll coming with such unsubstantiated claims that have absolutely no use05:25
=== PhinnFort shuts up and doesn't feed the troll
DJServersthere is  on that site but when i click on it it directly opens it in kate05:26
rollerskatejammsPhinnFort: well i may seem like one. but the fact is when i run kubuntu i have all kinds of issues. it crahses. adept doesnt properly rectify dependencies, etc.05:26
PhinnFortDJServers: you must right click on the link and save as05:26
rollerskatejammsubuntu works just fine.05:26
PhinnFortrollerskatejamms: Adept is a buggy POS, imho, but KDE owns05:26
rollerskatejammsPhinnFort: Oh I'm not saying KDE doesn't own. I love KDE.05:26
PhinnFortrollerskatejamms: don't confuse one program with the entire desktop05:26
rollerskatejammsbut i find  that lots of apps randomly crash05:27
mendredhi when i run openoffice in kde.. it doesn't obey fontconfig settings..i need to do an export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome (to trigger the gtk wrapper) to get sane fonts05:27
rollerskatejammswhen im using kubuntu05:27
PhinnFortrollerskatejamms: checked your RAM?05:27
rollerskatejammsnot kde in general05:27
DJServersi cant when i right click on it the stands no save as or save05:27
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
rollerskatejammsPhinnFort: No I haven't but if it were bad RAM, why wouldn't it also happen under Ubuntu?05:27
mendredis there any way to force it to use fontconfig with the kde wrapper?05:27
PhinnFortrollerskatejamms: well, how often does it crash?05:27
=== ion [n=ion@89.36.255.23] has joined #kubuntu
DJServersPhinnFort: There doens't stand a save as or save when i right klik on it05:28
=== |marseillai| [n=marseill@AMarseille-156-1-135-99.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortsave link as?05:29
DJServersyeah05:29
=== jontulley [n=jontulle@cpc2-clif2-0-0-cust180.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== jontulley is now known as jontulley_
DJServersand thats an download.php05:29
=== jontulley_ is now known as jontulley
PhinnFortDJServers: give it a new name05:29
DJServerswhat name?05:30
=== brocoli [n=brocoli@35-220-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu
DJServersdownload.deb /05:30
DJServers?05:30
PhinnFortyeah05:30
=== anderson [n=anderson@201-69-195-226.dial-up.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortor acetone.deb, or anything that tickles your funny05:30
DJServersok it now opens whit ark05:30
=== weedar [n=weedar@084202105009.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #kubuntu
DJServerswhen i click on it05:31
=== miguel [n=miguel@89.128.173.231] has joined #kubuntu
=== miguel is now known as Qaldune
PhinnFortDJServers: right click, and install it05:31
alexalux#ubuntu-ru05:31
=== Qaldune [n=miguel@89.128.173.231] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
PhinnFortalexalux: you can just type "/j #channelname" to join a channel05:32
DJServersPhinnFort: what program?05:32
PhinnFortDJServers: not open with05:32
PhinnFortDJServers: it should be a separate submenu, KUbuntu install or something05:32
=== poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== stelios [n=stelios@213.169.141.79] has joined #kubuntu
DJServerso got it05:32
=== mars [n=mars@aef.wh.Uni-Dortmund.DE] has joined #kubuntu
=== dave [n=dave@host86-130-54-203.range86-130.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortit should be in your k-menu afterwards05:34
zblachhas anyone else had problems with cups?05:34
DJServersit doenst work05:34
DJServersit gets an error05:34
PhinnFortDJServers: you maybe need to install kommander05:34
PhinnFort!find kommander05:34
ubotuFound: kommander, kommander-dev05:34
PhinnFort!info kommander05:34
ubotukommander: visual dialog builder and executor tool. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3800 kB05:34
=== blizzzek [n=blizzz@p57B53B3D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
DJServershow to install05:35
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@eau34.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@eau34.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
PhinnFortDJServers: install it via apt05:36
PhinnFortDJServers: *adept05:36
DJServersok05:36
=== balrog [n=balrog@164.77.204.178] has joined #kubuntu
=== alexalux [n=alexalux@h81-88-114-203.rev.domonet.ru] has joined #kubuntu
DJServerssearch for kommander and install05:36
DJServerssimple05:36
PhinnFortyeah05:37
PhinnFortmeh... OpenOffice's formula editing is fugly05:37
=== thehuman [n=thehuman@c-24-12-179-51.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortand doesn't import formulas from .doc very well05:38
DJServersok its loading05:38
yuriyPhinnFort: what's wrong with OO.o's formula editing?05:39
PhinnFortyuriy: I'm trying to edit a .doc document, I've saved as a .odt, but still it doesn't allow me to resize the formulas05:39
=== matlec [n=matlec@p54AD61E3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortand if I try to edit them, most of the numbers are replaced with ?'s05:39
yuriyoh i guess working with ms word formula's might be problematic05:40
yuriyfrom scratch i think it's quite a bit better than the MS editor05:40
=== thehuman [n=thehuman@c-24-12-179-51.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortwell, but you have that addin that everyone who's serious about formulas use05:40
PhinnFortmathml or whatever05:40
=== Kr4t05 [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-14-231.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ToyMan [n=Stuart@user-12lcqol.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== magical_trevsky [n=magical@80-45-41-53.static.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-48.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortyuriy: look at this crap...: http://phinnfort.phil0d0x.com/stuff/screenshots/skjermbilde6.png05:41
PhinnFortmeh05:42
=== Cryoniq_ [n=chatzill@me-54-110-233-83.3.cust.bredband2.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== DJFrankie [n=serverpc@53573447.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== ninHer [n=ninHer@20.Red-83-57-0.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
DJFrankieDJServers here my konversation crashed now my real name DJServers is still here :P05:44
=== Wesselaar [n=jan@i230124.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortargh... also if I try to move them, they start jumping all over the place05:44
=== Wesselaar [n=jan@i230124.upc-i.chello.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
=== karelx [n=karelx@karelx.unhfree.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== thehuman [n=thehuman@c-24-12-179-51.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== rubyat [n=root@12-216-30-251.client.mchsi.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== sdgreen_ [n=sdgreen@S0106000d88f15d27.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Wesselaar [n=jan@i230124.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== Wesselaar [n=jan@i230124.upc-i.chello.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
=== Wesselaar [n=jan@i230124.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== tycho [n=tycho@216-160-49-251.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu
DJFrankiePhinnFort: Now it says Kommander is not yet configurated when i try to install donwload.dev05:48
PhinnFortdid you install kommander05:48
PhinnFortDJFrankie: also, check in your k-menu05:48
=== viktor [n=viktor@c-aae2e455.04-181-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu
DJFrankieo well i have to go eating now have a look at it when i am done05:49
=== ArTo [n=iaguis@38.Red-83-37-167.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== keriomis [n=keriomis@105.140.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortok05:49
PhinnFortgood eating05:49
=== rubyat [n=root@12-216-30-251.client.mchsi.com] has left #kubuntu ["#kubuntu"]
=== FordCortina [n=frank@82-32-16-199.cable.ubr03.azte.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== Wesselaar [n=jan@i230124.upc-i.chello.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
=== brocoli [n=brocoli@24-222-222-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu
=== sercik [n=sercik@host15-164-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== blizzz [n=blizzz@p57b53b3d.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== palolo^ [n=paolo@host22-80.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== sangers [n=sangers@bas16-montreal02-1242356776.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu
sercikHi05:52
=== os2mac [n=jim@242-37-178-69.gci.net] has joined #kubuntu
sercikafter all i have returned to kubuntu05:53
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
=== steve_ [n=steve@cpc4-birk3-0-0-cust334.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88hendaus: there?05:53
=== borgxyz [n=borgxyz@pool-72-68-4-133.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ReMiiRuru [n=l@host-87-99-45-55.lanet.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu
lunixmanwhy is it that in ubuntu there's no Open Terminal Here option when i rightclick?05:54
=== tucuna [n=tucuna@190.152.25.72] has joined #kubuntu
=== Andrew`` [n=andrew@202.43.231.52] has joined #kubuntu
=== thehuman [n=thehuman@c-24-12-179-51.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisguess it got removed.05:54
llutzlunixman: in konqueror?05:54
steve_ur gay05:56
=== miguel [n=miguel@89.128.173.231] has joined #kubuntu
=== miguel is now known as Qaldune
=== aziz [n=aziz@chello084112072063.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88steve_: !!!?!!05:57
=== dr_willis feels the love..
PhinnForthe left05:57
dr_willisCat on the Keyboard again! :005:57
PhinnFort:P05:57
dr_willisor Younger Brother.05:57
dr_willis:)05:57
PhinnFort:D05:57
=== chris_mir [n=chris@cp13071-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== Qaldune [n=miguel@89.128.173.231] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
lunixmanllutz,: no in gnome05:58
=== MementoMori [n=filippo@83.181.166.174] has joined #kubuntu
MementoMorihi all05:58
llutzgnome is ugly ;)05:58
PhinnFortfugly05:58
titanix88llutz: kde sucks!!!05:58
=== dr_willis notes that he dosent use gnome much.
PhinnFortgnome is stupid05:58
=== PhinnFort neither
MementoMoriwhere can I find an online free lpic 101 test simulator?05:59
dr_willisWindowmaker pwns  you!05:59
dr_willis:)05:59
=== sangers [n=sangers@bas16-montreal02-1242356776.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortratpoison owns all05:59
llutzion rulez05:59
=== ebbu [n=ebbu@36-189.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willistwn !05:59
llutzbla bla fishcake05:59
PhinnFortllutz: what has ion that I need?05:59
PhinnFortTWM05:59
dr_williswmx !05:59
dr_willis:)05:59
PhinnFortratpoison is actually usefull05:59
dr_willis'Matchbox' is an interesting window manager05:59
llutzPhinnFort: whe tf needs a gui/wm?05:59
PhinnFortllutz: to have several terminals in view at once?06:00
llutzo06:00
PhinnFort:P06:00
=== FOAD_ [n=dok@dinah.blub.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisreal men use screen :)06:00
llutzPhinnFort: "screen" helps06:00
PhinnFortllutz: ratpoison is screen for X06:00
PhinnFort:)06:00
PhinnForthttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison06:00
dr_willisevery once in a while i get bored and try those alternatives..06:02
=== llutz loves wm/os/mua-bashing :)
=== n8k99_away is now known as n8k99
dr_willisthey always seem to have some really 'odd' features  in one way or another.06:02
PhinnForthow about a browser war?06:02
=== Zackson [n=zion@200.82.222.99] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisWhat was the one that all the settings were like in a 'database file' ?06:02
titanix88PhinnFort: w3m rocks!!06:03
llutzoh i forgor that. opera sux06:03
PhinnFortlynx pwns ye all06:03
PhinnFortlinks is for sissies06:03
PhinnFortor skipstone06:03
dr_willisdillo - because the name is amost dirty!06:03
=== yeniklasor [n=yeniklas@85.96.4.98] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFort(which is kind of neat, actually)06:03
llutz"telnet bar.foo 80" rulez06:03
PhinnFortdillo doesn't support CSS, otherwise it's very nice06:03
=== xardias [n=xardias@xdsl-87-78-142-163.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortnc ftw06:03
dr_willisNow we can rant about how CSS sucks!06:04
PhinnFortyeah!06:04
dr_willispure html!!06:04
PhinnFortpurity, endurance and pwnage!06:04
dr_willisIve noticed that recently web sites may look better.. but are less useable  way too muchof the time.06:04
dr_willisa few i visit - cant even be printed right any more.06:04
PhinnFortthat sucks06:04
PhinnFortcan we have a shellfight now?06:05
PhinnFortasmsh ftw!06:05
dr_willisdash vs bash!06:05
dr_willis:)06:05
llutzzsh06:05
PhinnFortheh06:05
=== illusionx [n=illusion@proxy.klacno.sk] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnForthttp://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/asmsh/06:06
yeniklasoraraknofobia :S06:06
PhinnFortyou even have to finish the sourcecode yourself!06:06
llutzcoool, easier than "cat >/vmlinuz" all the time :)06:06
dr_willishmm.. firefox wants me to get this plyugin for a site.. and its "(Unknown Plugin) (Application X-OLE Object)06:07
yeniklasorwhat is /vmlinuz ?06:07
dr_willisheh and the site works fine.. in IE. the same site looks identical.. and works.. so not sure what the plugin is even for06:07
llutzyeniklasor: usually a link to your actual kernel06:07
=== bcasanov [n=opera@user-38f165.user.msu.edu] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88hendaus:06:07
=== binks [n=binks@82-38-226-77.cable.ubr03.wake.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFort /boot/vmlinuz on modern distros06:08
=== bcasanov [n=opera@user-38f165.user.msu.edu] has left #kubuntu []
serciksomeone have install synaptic under kubuntu feisty??06:09
sercikthere is a bug and i can't see shich packages installed ior not06:09
dr_willissercik,  yes. works fine06:09
dr_willisfor me.06:09
dr_willisi tend to install ubuntu-desktop06:09
serciki don't see the square06:09
sercikbefore the name that indicates if packages in installed upfdated or uninstalled06:10
=== greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_williscant say that ive ever noticed those.06:11
dr_willisunder the "S" colum first colum ya mean?06:12
=== ubuntu__ [n=ubuntu@Wimax-Cgena-190-70-50-206.orbitel.net.co] has joined #kubuntu
=== houdini [n=houdini@222.69.213.95] has joined #kubuntu
serciki think the problem is that feisty use kde style also on gtk applications06:12
=== ubuntu__ is now known as kamp382
dr_willisI got green box's with stars on some packages06:12
kamp382hola06:12
yeniklasoris I delete vmlinuz and initrd.img my kubuntu won't boot up?06:12
dr_willisi do install that kde-gtk theme tool06:12
sercikstars are for upgradable06:12
kamp382soy de colombia06:12
yeniklasorif I delete vmlinuz and initrd.img my kubuntu won't boot up?06:12
dr_willisyeniklasor,  if you delete them - yep. i bet they wont boot.06:12
sercikdr_willis: can you explain better?06:12
kamp382colombia06:12
kamp382colombia06:13
kamp382colombia06:13
kamp382colombia06:13
kamp382colombia06:13
kamp382colombia06:13
=== illusionx [n=illusion@proxy.klacno.sk] has joined #kubuntu
PhinnFortshaddap06:13
greg_gkamp382: espanol en #ubuntu-es06:13
dr_willissercik,  i got green box icons and empty box's and.. other icons in the S colum , theres a package that lets your gtk apps use  the proper kde theme/icons/decorations also.06:13
=== PhinnFort is really pissed at OOo, atm, so please excuse any strong language
serciki want to know about that package!06:13
=== guillermo [n=guillerm@cm-85-152-76-68.telecable.es] has joined #kubuntu
serciktell me please and i will install it06:14
yeniklasordr_willis: Somehow my pc's boot is deleting or something (there is also windows) How can I restore my boot, if there is an error occur?06:14
guillermoalguien habla espaol?06:14
PhinnFort!es | guillermo06:14
ubotuguillermo: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.06:14
dr_willisif i knew the exact name i would of said it. :)  search the package manager I gues.s i cant rember what its calle06:14
dr_willis!theme06:14
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy06:14
guillermogracias06:14
PhinnForthow can I move a friggin table from one page to another in OO Writer?06:15
klobster!la foo06:15
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about la foo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
sercikdr_willis: you was speaking about a package... not a website06:15
klobster!ru foo06:15
=== guillermo is now known as Swatch
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ru foo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:15
=== borgxyz [n=borgxyz@pool-72-68-4-133.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
klobster!ru | foo06:15
ubotufoo:    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke06:15
klobsterdoh!, forgot the pipe06:16
=== Zackson [n=zion@200.82.222.99] has joined #kubuntu
=== _arafat [n=arafat@ppp-82-135-74-36.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisThe GTK-Qt Theme Engine (also known as gtk-qt-engine)06:17
klobster!la | foo06:17
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about la - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:17
dr_willis!info gtk-qt-engine06:17
ubotugtk-qt-engine: theme engine using Qt for GTK+ 2.x. In component main, is optional. Version 0.71~svn20070224-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 98 kB, installed size 460 kB06:17
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
os2macI have a shell question.06:18
=== nikkiana [n=nikkiana@c-24-34-69-166.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== borgxyz [n=borgxyz@pool-72-68-4-133.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisoh06:19
klobster!foo > klobster06:19
os2mac I want to start that application from a command prompt and then free the shell so that you can continue to use it.06:19
DJFrankiePhinnFort: i am back06:19
dr_willisos2mac,  bash fundamentals job control06:20
dr_willis command &06:20
=== DJFrankie is now known as DJServers
DJServers!phpmtadmin06:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about phpmtadmin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:20
dr_willisdo NOT use the 'close' button on the terminal window. use the exit command if you wish to close it06:20
DJServers!phpmyadmin06:20
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about phpmyadmin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:20
os2macdr_willis: tried that it didn't spawn the app.06:20
=== Young_Druid [n=hanabi@217.150.45.157] has joined #kubuntu
DJServers!dev06:20
ubotuInterested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment06:20
serciki can't see boxes :(06:21
PhinnFortanyone tried Microsoft Office in Wine here?06:21
serciki don't like adept.. i want to use synaptic .06:21
serciki have tried office 200306:21
dr_willisos2mac,  then ya need to clarify what exactly you are trying to do.06:21
PhinnFortdid it work?06:21
=== PhinnFort is tired of fighting with OO Writer
dr_willis& runs a command in the background.06:21
=== SmrtJustin [n=SmrtJust@cblmdm72-241-95-203.buckeyecom.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Young_Druid [n=hanabi@217.150.45.157] has left #kubuntu []
serciki don't see boxes in synaptic under kubuntu06:22
=== felzix [n=felzix@c-24-5-196-117.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willissercik,  you may want to post a screen shot06:22
=== Zackson [n=zion@200.82.222.99] has joined #kubuntu
os2macdr_willis: let's say I am in a shell and want to run a windowed app (adept_manager) but don't want to loose the usage of the shell window... how does one do that?06:23
sercikthere is nothing to see however :)06:23
DJServersPhinnFort: ehm.. the install says kommander is not right configured06:23
dr_willisos2mac,    with xterm for example. ya would do 'xterm &'06:23
PhinnFortDJServers: have you tried running AcetoneISO?06:23
dr_willisspecific error messages may still appear in the original shell  however.06:24
DJServershoe/06:24
DJServershow?06:24
=== harzi [n=dani@84-73-140-176.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu
os2macdr_willis:  what about in an instance where I have to run a sudo?06:24
dr_willistry it and see.06:24
sercikhttp://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermata1ve2.png06:25
dr_willisfor a gui app you proberly want to use that ksudo (or whatever its called) not 'sudo'06:25
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
=== javier [n=javier@217.pool85-50-103.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #kubuntu
=== busfahrer [n=busfahre@unixboard/user/busfahrer] has joined #kubuntu
serciki need help with synaptic06:26
=== javier [n=javier@217.pool85-50-103.dynamic.orange.es] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== lunixman [n=yudi@222.126.101.15] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"]
DJServersho nows a good phpmyadmin download?06:26
=== meven [n=meven@ARennes-357-1-150-132.w90-25.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
os2macdr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23909/06:27
titanix88hendaus: there?06:27
titanix88sercik: what help?06:28
llutzos2mac: kdesu <app-name> &06:28
DJServerswhat de uninstall command again?06:28
=== [GoTHiC] [n=GoTHiC@77-105-54-158.adsl-1.sezampro.yu] has joined #kubuntu
DJServersapt-get remove?06:28
=== [GoTHiC] is now known as medaaaaa
sercikHi titanix88 i can't see the boxes in synaptic in kubutu feisty06:28
=== medaaaaa [n=GoTHiC@77-105-54-158.adsl-1.sezampro.yu] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
sercikso i'm not able to understand which packages are installed or not06:29
=== coreymon77 [n=coreymon@CPE000f663685cd-CM0011e67c2935.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Kr4t05 [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-14-231.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88sercik: boxes?06:29
serciksee here:  http://img527.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermata1ve2.png06:29
=== coreymon77 [n=coreymon@CPE000f663685cd-CM0011e67c2935.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Freejack_CSI [n=Freejack@71-8-78-223.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
DJServers!apache06:29
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:29
sercikthe green or empty square06:30
dr_willisUsage: kdesu [Qt-options]  [KDE-options]  command    Runs a program with elevated privileges.06:30
dr_willisos2mac,  for a GUI app use kdesu06:30
os2mactried that and got similiar results06:30
dr_willissercik,  check the synaptic settings - be sur that colum is enabled to be shown06:30
dr_willisos2mac,  you aint ssh'd or telneted in are you?06:31
dr_willisos2mac,  or doimg somthing else odd?06:31
sercikyes is enabled and is visible but without square06:31
=== javier [n=javier@217.pool85-50-103.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #kubuntu
=== os2mac crings at someone with a nick like Dr_willis who uses "ain't"... :)
os2macno I am not in ssh or telnet but it's possible that adept_mangler just doesn't like being called from a command prompt.06:32
dr_willisos2mac,  i rarely use adept_manager06:32
dr_willis!adept06:32
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto06:32
=== kelly [n=kelly@user-0c2i6ib.cable.earthlink.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willissudo synaptic    does work fine for me.06:32
dr_willisaint that great!06:33
dr_willis:)06:33
serciki do kdesu synaptic06:33
sercikcan i try to do gksu synaptic?06:33
frojndhello there06:33
=== marion [n=marion@86.75.19.161] has joined #kubuntu
dr_williskdesu synaptic woks for me also.06:33
frojndhow can I set konquror so everytime I would start it thhere would be tree view and not icon tree as it is by default ??06:34
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
serciki have loaded synaptic from konsole and i can see a list of error that probably explain the lacks of boxes:06:34
sercikWarning, failed to load: package-installIcon 'package-install' not present in theme06:34
sercikWarning, failed to load: package-reinstallIcon 'package-reinstall' not present in theme06:34
dr_willisgksu synaptic  - also work for me06:34
serciki try to search on google06:35
=== ArtMoonik_ [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-10-32.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisi always install ubuntu-desktop so it probelry grabbed those06:35
sercikbut with edgy there wasn't this problem06:36
serciki need to install hundreds of megabytes only to have green boxes??06:36
dr_willisyou expect us to actually kniow the answer to that...06:37
titanix88sercik: kcontrol->GTK styles-> Select another theme : Human06:37
dr_willisproberly not.. ya proberly just need to find the right package to install06:37
=== criminal [n=criminal@host249-152-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willistitanix88,  oh yea - there IS that check box to enable the gtk-qt themes..06:37
sercikdr_willis: i try to install some gnome related package06:37
serciktitanix88: i have already see there but thereisn't human theme06:38
=== weedar [n=weedar@084202105009.customer.alfanett.no] has joined #kubuntu
sercikThereis QT and Raleigh06:38
dr_willishmm - human is the default theme i thought06:38
sercikfor gnome!06:39
titanix88sercik: use another style -> human doesn't work??06:39
sercikhuman is not present is list06:39
sercikThereis inly  QT and Raleigh06:39
titanix88sercik: install ubuntu-artworks06:39
sercikok thaks!06:39
sercikafter adept finish to upgrade...06:39
=== Dragonhorse [n=kill@pppoe-88-147-185-40.san.ru] has joined #kubuntu
=== _Shade_ [n=adam@nat2.subscribers.sferia.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-10-32.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu
=== linux_ [n=linux@200.84.240.237] has joined #kubuntu
=== cathal_ [n=cathal@89.101.192.70] has joined #kubuntu
DJServers!find xampp06:42
ubotuPackage/file xampp does not exist in feisty06:43
=== sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #kubuntu
DJServers!find phpmyadmin06:43
ubotuFound: phpmyadmin06:43
=== etienne_ [n=etienne@96-62-118-80.kaptech.net] has joined #kubuntu
DJServers!info phpmyadmin06:43
ubotuphpmyadmin: Administrate MySQL over the WWW. In component universe, is extra. Version 4:2.9.1.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 3506 kB, installed size 13752 kB06:43
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
Panda200xHey, how do I upgrade to Feisty in Adept (On Dapper) :P06:43
DJServers!phpmyadmin06:43
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about phpmyadmin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:43
=== masterk [n=masterk@c-75-68-177-159.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== masterk [n=masterk@c-75-68-177-159.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
DJServers!xampp06:45
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:45
=== vbgunz [n=vbgunz@217-98.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Billiard [n=Billiard@amh-bb-dynamic-pppoe4-ws-103.dsl.airstreamcomm.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== etienne [n=etienne@96-62-118-80.kaptech.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== cyber_brain_mfkg [n=cyber_br@212.200.171.120] has joined #kubuntu
DJServerswhat map sould i mount a .iso file??? to play it?06:49
DJServersin cdrom ?06:49
=== Secutor [n=mark@c-67-169-16-102.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
binksDJServers: what you stuck on with phpmyadmin06:50
=== rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-10-32.net.novis.pt] has joined #kubuntu
DJServerso have fix that already06:50
=== jrenato [n=jrenato@201-75-100-138-ma.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #kubuntu
DJServersbut what map sould i mount a .iso file?06:50
DJServersmayby /media/cdrom006:51
binkshow do you mean what mapyou lost me06:51
binksor path sorry06:51
DJServersno in what map sould i mount a .iso file to play it like a cd ?06:51
=== XoKeBeR [n=ZoKeBeR@190.72.148.16] has joined #kubuntu
binks!iso06:52
ubotuTo mount an ISO disc image, type  sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint>  - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.06:52
=== _Shade_ [n=adam@nat2.subscribers.sferia.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== alex_ [n=alex@68-187-86-83.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
binksmount it where you like06:52
DJServersok06:53
=== pag [n=pavel@cs181123229.pp.htv.fi] has joined #kubuntu
=== remy [n=remy@89.33.168.28] has joined #kubuntu
=== przemek_ [n=przemek@abpp125.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #kubuntu
przemek_hello06:54
binksprzemek_: hi m806:54
=== incorrect [n=fwest@cpc1-cmbg8-0-0-cust155.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== rbrunhuber [n=Miranda@p54975ec4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== nkoc [n=nkoc@p5082fead.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
incorrectwhat do i need to install to watch movies from apple?06:56
=== aldin [n=aldin@cm-5383.europronet.ba] has joined #kubuntu
sercik!multimedia06:57
ubotuUbuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications06:57
DJServers!lampp06:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about lampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:57
=== Flosoft_ [n=florian@212.71.12.8.adsl.dyn.edpnet.net] has joined #kubuntu
DJServers!lamp06:57
=== jitendra [n=jitendra@202.166.216.196] has joined #kubuntu
ubotuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)06:57
=== mneptok [n=mneptok@canonical/support/mneptok] has left #kubuntu []
DJServers!.tar.gz06:58
ubotuFiles with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression06:58
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
binksDJServers: stop flooding pls goto faq to serach howtos06:59
DJServerssrry06:59
DJServersbut i cant find the right thing06:59
binkswhat do you want to acheive06:59
binksyou in dapper or edgy or fiesty07:00
binksor warty maybe07:00
=== yeniklasor [n=yeniklas@85.96.4.98] has joined #kubuntu
DJServerswell i need to unpack xampp and then install but i dont now what to inster07:00
=== lelle [n=lelle@c-d957e455.06-16-756d651.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu
yeniklasorHow can I kill "amsn"? It is not giving response now :S07:01
=== lelle is now known as krumeliux
yeniklasorkillall is not working07:01
DJServersxampp is a webhosting program and i want to install it but i dont now how :P07:01
=== pyrotix_ [n=pyrotix@bas12-toronto12-1096586454.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu
binkshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22341007:01
=== _Shade_ [n=adam@nat2.subscribers.sferia.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== alex_ [n=alex@68-187-86-83.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== franco [n=franco@151.74.247.177] has joined #kubuntu
francohiall07:02
=== jitendra [n=jitendra@202.166.216.196] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== borgxyz [n=borgxyz@pool-71-187-131-231.nwrknj.east.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
binksDJServers: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22341007:03
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
DJServerslookin07:03
binksok :)07:04
francohow can I uninstall a driver via ndiswrapper? I tried "ndiswrapper -r nameofdriver" but it gave me this error: "couldn't delete nameofdriver; Inappropriate ioctl for device"07:04
=== jovans [n=jovans@p54B07FB1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== masterk [n=masterk@c-75-68-177-159.hsd1.vt.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== carlos [n=carlos@201.10.161.34] has joined #kubuntu
=== mat__ [n=mat@ip-213-49-67-142.dsl.scarlet.be] has joined #kubuntu
=== vbgunz [n=vbgunz@217-98.127-70.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== _Shade_ [n=adam@nat2.subscribers.sferia.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== papa [n=papa@host78-248-static.104-80-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== OOD [n=OOD@dsl-150-176.aei.ca] has joined #kubuntu
=== jonathan__ [n=jonathan@201.250.136.71] has joined #kubuntu
=== Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-235-211.googlewifi.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== david_ [n=david@90.153.99-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu
jonathan__holas07:14
Kr4t05Hrm.07:14
Kr4t05Any shell-scripters in here?07:14
=== tekr [n=tekr@ip70-188-135-236.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== kelly is now known as kidizzle
=== tekr is now known as tekr1
=== virusavirusa [n=virusa@host-88-210-210-93.adsl.caucasus.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== sercik [n=sercik@host15-164-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== amitk_ [n=amit@a81-197-135-210.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu
sercikok!! i have solved with synaptic07:16
serciki have installed gksu that install others dependencies!07:16
kidizzle@yeniklasor: ps -A07:17
franco[REPOST]  how can I uninstall a driver via ndiswrapper? I tried "ndiswrapper -r nameofdriver" but it gave me this error: "couldn't delete nameofdriver; Inappropriate ioctl for device"07:17
=== andy_ [n=andy@touchness-technology.volia.net] has joined #kubuntu
kidizzleget the proc id07:17
=== jople [n=jople@peak.evkanet.net] has joined #kubuntu
kidizzlekill -9 <proc id>07:18
francohow could i get the proc id?07:18
DJServerskmenu -> system -> kInfo Center07:19
vbgunzKopete in Feisty still has the Format Toolbar bug where if you hide it, it still shows up :( Is there a fix for this anywhere?07:19
sercikalso ps -ax from konsole07:19
soulriderfranco: try with ksysguard, its a great program, similar tot he widnows task manager (but better)07:19
=== Datalanche [n=mike@adsl-70-238-201-79.dsl.lbcktx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
yeniklasorkidizzle: thanks07:20
francothanks, I'm switching to Linux on my laptop, and these are my first steps07:20
sercikps -ax or top from konsole07:20
sercikor you can do killall apps07:20
=== DJServers is now eating crips mmmm.....
=== desti_T2 [n=desti@p5b0188e1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
kidizzlefranco: i was talking to yenklasor about the proc id07:20
kidizzlenot about ndisdrivers07:21
kidizzlesry07:21
francoah ok, thanks... and sorry :D07:21
=== Solifugus [n=matthew@w161188.wireless.fsr.net] has joined #kubuntu
francoso... no idea about how to solve my problem with "unappropriate ioctl for device", uh? :D07:22
=== joseph [n=joseph@c-71-193-70-210.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
kidizzlenot from me, id rather pay $50 and throw intel card in then deal with ndiswrapper07:24
=== DJServers slaps him self in the face to stay awake when donwloading :p
=== ikz [n=phil@hbrn-590f79dc.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu
francoI can understand. On the how-to page, it seems so easy.07:25
franco(But it's not)07:25
DJServerslol07:25
kidizzlesometimes it is07:25
DJServersreading is the easy part07:25
DJServersdoing it is then hard part07:25
francoDJServers: agree.07:26
=== sercik [n=sercik@host15-164-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
francoMaking a wi-fi usb adapter work on linux, is harder.07:26
=== DJServers brains are crashing :p
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
=== XoKeBeR [n=ZoKeBeR@190.72.148.16] has left #kubuntu ["Saludos]
Tetsfranco: What's the output of "ndiswrapper -l"? "Nameofdriver Invalid Driver!"?07:27
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-56.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
francoTets: yeppa.07:27
francothat's why I tried to uninstall it.07:27
=== Aerotwelve [n=tony@swsh-05-194.dsl.netins.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Aerotwelve [n=tony@swsh-05-194.dsl.netins.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== changeme [n=changeme@252.pool85-55-21.dynamic.orange.es] has joined #kubuntu
=== DJServers booring my download is on 76% and its getting slower and slower:P
dr_willisThen it starts going backwards!07:28
dr_willis:)07:28
dr_willissaw that on a cartoon the other day07:28
=== DJServers o noo! :p
DJServerslol07:28
Tetsfranco: I did some Google search about it, but nothing. Maybe try different version of ndiswrapper.07:28
DJServers-78 % :P07:29
francoTets: it was the last one.07:29
DJServerso its now on 83% :P almost there! :P07:29
Tetsfranco: So try older version ;-) It helps sometimes.07:29
franco:D07:30
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-56.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
francoah, btw. Let's try to solve _another_ problem. My cd-reader doesn't work well. And this is a big problem for installing other apps of kubuntu.Any idea?07:31
=== ninapina [n=nina@190.152.25.72] has joined #kubuntu
=== fogwar [n=cris@ppp-70-251-227-222.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== cpace [n=cpace@6532214hfc131.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
DJServersbut you can download the apps07:31
DJServersor you mean buyt apps ? prof apps? :P07:32
=== Chakersito [n=chaker@201.250.10.139] has joined #kubuntu
francoright. But I would like to have all automagic with apt-get :07:32
franco:p07:32
=== ian_ [n=ian@host-203-172-15-212.dhcp.infocom.ph] has joined #kubuntu
cpacehey there everybody07:32
DJServersey07:32
Chakersitohi07:32
francoYou know: you open apt-get, say "install this", and it installs it.07:32
cpaceI have a problem I'm hoping someone has the answer to07:33
DJServersthat be nice you07:33
=== ricardo [n=ricardo@AGrenoble-152-1-46-157.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
DJServers!ask cpace07:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ask cpace - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:33
DJServersto lol07:33
=== blizzz is now known as blizzzek
DJServers!ask | cpace07:33
ubotucpace: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:33
cpacemy bad07:33
fogwarfranco: hey im having trouble partitioning my HD.. when i run QTParted it doesn't let me do anything, and I was wondering if hte XP disk will allow me to partition the HD as I need to install XP on it07:33
DJServers;)07:33
cpaceI just installed feisty on a system with a wireless adapter07:33
cpaceI know that I need ndiswrapper but it is not installed by default07:33
ian_y does my konqueror07:34
ian_An error occurred while loading http://www.yahoo.com:07:34
ian_Could not connect to host http://www.yahoo.com/.07:34
cpaceI don't have an internet connection to grab it because my wireless device isn't working yet07:34
ian_help me on thin07:34
ian_help me on this07:34
ian_y does my konqueror won't work n says07:34
ian_An error occurred while loading http://www.yahoo.com:07:34
ian_Could not connect to host http://www.yahoo.com/.07:34
=== nukang [n=nukang@user-0c2hjjg.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== tekr1 [n=tekr@ip70-188-135-236.ri.ri.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
cpaceian: can you get to any other webpage?07:35
cpacelike http://www.google.com ?07:35
ian_no i can't07:35
krautmoin07:35
=== mahdi_ [n=mahdi@c-24-147-12-73.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
DJServersfranco: this  pc is a pentium 2 and whit windows it crashes al the time and whit linux it is sppr fast :P07:35
cpacecan you with firefox?07:35
ian_i tried but it wont open07:35
=== vonkrolok [n=vonkrolo@151.65.242.148] has joined #kubuntu
=== henri_ [n=henri@a80-186-160-23.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu
ian_my connection works with other programs07:35
=== sercik [n=sercik@host15-164-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
cpacesounds like you may have something blocking port 8007:35
cpacelike a firewall or something07:36
ian_just with konquerer07:36
cpacego to terminal (konsole on kde)07:36
ian_my kubuntu is just a fresh install from cd just a minute a go07:36
cpaceand type    "telnet www.yahoo.com 80"07:36
cpaceminus the quotes07:36
vonkrolokhi guys, I would like to know how do I run a script with administrator priviledges07:36
cpacesee if you get a response07:37
vonkrolokI'm trying to install tex live 200707:37
blizzzekMathe07:37
blizzzekMathe07:37
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
cpaceif you don't get a response then something is probably blocking port 8007:37
cpaceon your system or network07:37
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
ian_nothing07:38
=== Erunno [n=matthes@stgt-590e24f5.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu
vonkrolokhi guys, I would like to know how do I run a script with administrator priviledges07:38
=== helder [n=helder@62.48.251.21] has joined #kubuntu
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-56.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== Erunno [n=matthes@stgt-590e24f5.pool.einsundeins.de] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
vonkrolokI tried 'sudo sh ...' but it doesn't seem to work as expected07:38
GrueTamerdo sudo su - first07:39
cpaceian:  so it seems you may have something blocking you07:39
GrueTamerand run the script normally07:39
Chakersitohi friends, i would like if anybody have or know ow to make a script to change the mac of the eths...07:39
=== Zackson [n=zion@200.82.222.99] has joined #kubuntu
cpaceian: what distro/version are you running (ex: kubuntu/7.04)07:40
ian_it just says trying (ip add) then connected to www.yahoo-ht3.akadns.net. then escape character is '^] '.07:40
vonkrolokthanks07:40
ian_yup 7.0407:40
=== dr_willis [n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu
cpacedid you install automatix yet?07:41
ian_nope07:41
ian_wat is it for07:41
=== BluesKaj [n=Blues@bas1-sudbury98-1177672422.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu
ian_im new here07:41
=== andrew__ [n=andrew@pool-71-97-161-32.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willishmm - i just got a call from my isp  "Sir weve noticed your system has been doing a lot of Uploading over the last few days"07:41
=== nkoc [n=nkoc@p5082FEAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willis"would you please double check your wireles router settings and so forth to insure you are not infected by anything you dont intend to run, and if uploading for a long time, throttle the upload speeds"07:42
dr_willisheh heh..07:42
dr_willisBusted for Seeding a Linux Iso Torrent!07:42
=== xine [n=xine@d191-227-emerson-3.ucdavis.edu] has joined #kubuntu
=== fogwar [n=cris@ppp-70-251-225-59.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu
cpaceautomatix gives you some extra packages not included in (k/x)ubuntu07:43
=== grxmrx [n=grxmrx@user12.112.udn.pl] has joined #kubuntu
apokryphos!automatix07:43
ubotuAutomatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe07:43
BluesKaj!automatix07:43
BluesKajhehe07:43
cpacesorry07:43
=== Kite_DH [n=Kite_DH@p57B350B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
ian_hehehe07:43
=== koriel [n=koriel@host7.edonet.ondsl.gr] has joined #kubuntu
cpaceguess automatix is a bad word around here07:43
ian_its ok07:43
cpace<--- new to this channel07:43
=== DexterF [i=1000@ip153.139.reserved.ish.de] has joined #kubuntu
apokryphoscpace: it is07:44
dr_willisuntill it trashes your system07:44
=== ericj2190_ [n=eric@cdm-75-109-86-203.asbnva.dh.suddenlink.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisand it HAS been known to do that07:44
=== azzco [n=Azzco@195.13.55.249] has joined #kubuntu
soulriderjoin #kopete07:44
soulrideroops07:44
DexterFis the 7.04 kernel the same used in the live system?07:44
cpaceI haven't experienced it trashing it yet, I guess I'm lucky07:44
dr_willisit also has a rather - interesting and flame filled  thread on some of the forums.07:44
dr_williscpace,  you are very lucky then07:44
=== polly1 [n=pollyo@c-68-81-43-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== polly1 [n=pollyo@c-68-81-43-126.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has left #kubuntu []
dr_willisthen again with the newer releases of ubuntu the need for automatix is getting less and less07:44
=== mattia [n=mattia@85-18-14-29.fastres.net] has joined #kubuntu
azzcoHi I've got two soundcards and I want to select one of them... where do I do that?07:44
ian_i installed ubuntu yesterday n konqueror works fine07:45
cpaceI play with my system a lot though, and don't use it as a primary server or anything07:45
ian_i installed ubuntu yesterday n konqueror works fine07:45
=== TimotiST [n=Timoti@pool-3744.adsl.interware.hu] has left #kubuntu ["Tasks]
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-56.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
vonkrolokdolphin is much better07:45
vonkrolokhope kde4 will come up soon07:45
dr_willisi perfer 'mc' :)07:45
cpaceian: do you know if yout setup a firewall program?07:45
Jack3how come i cant rip to mp3 in k3b07:46
Jack3i have libmad0 and libk3b2-mp3 install07:46
Jack3ed07:46
ian_i just tried to erase n installed it again today but unfortunately this tym konqueror wont work fine using the net07:46
dr_willisJack3,  ya restart k3b after installing those?07:46
Jack3yes07:46
Jack3well, unless k3b doesnt restart if i hit the x07:46
ian_no i dont07:46
Jack3but it showed the contents of the cd as .ogg07:46
ian_how do i check if i got one07:47
dr_willisJack3, k3b shoed the contents? or konqueror?07:47
Jack3k3b07:47
ian_sori new on this environment07:47
=== rich_ [n=rich@hlfxns01bbg-142177233067.ns.aliant.net] has joined #kubuntu
vonkrolokdr_willis: what is mc?07:47
soulrideris anyone having issues connecting to msn with kopete ?07:47
=== mattia [n=mattia@85-18-14-29.fastres.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== rich_ is now known as ^Rich^
soulrideri ahvnt been able to log in for a day now07:47
dr_willis~info mc07:47
azzcoWhere do I select soundcard to use in kubuntu?07:47
dr_willis~info mc07:47
dr_willis!info mc07:48
ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-7ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB07:48
soulriderlol dr_willis07:48
=== sercik [n=sercik@host15-164-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
azzcosoulrider: I'm on MSN now, no problem here (Sweden)07:48
^Rich^how do i get wireless working? using inspiron 150107:48
soulrider=/07:48
soulrideri casn log in with meebo\07:48
soulriderbut not kopete07:48
DJServerswhere can i stop prossesings?07:48
azzcoHmm... I thought it could be a server that's down or something07:48
DJServersprosses?07:48
=== llp78 [n=don@cpc4-char2-0-0-cust13.sotn.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKaj!wireless | ^Rich^07:49
ubotu^Rich^: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:49
soulriderDJServers: ksysguard07:49
azzcoDJServers: Kubuntu?07:49
DJServersyeah07:49
soulriderDJServers: you can also use killall <name>07:49
azzcoCtrl+Esc07:49
^Rich^!wireless | ^Rich^07:49
^Rich^i know before i did it it. it was just a simple couple of commands07:50
^Rich^but ill be darned if i can  reember what they were07:50
=== nkoc [n=nkoc@p5082FEAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== thirdy [n=thirdy@124.106.206.82] has joined #kubuntu
cpacesorry...was afk for a few07:50
azzcoI really need help fixing my soundcard...07:50
thirdyhow do get to the performance optimization dialog again?07:51
thirdythe one wen I installed kunbuntu-desktop07:51
thirdykubuntu07:51
=== lenscape [n=lenscape@dale.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
^Rich^is there a step by step on how to do it?07:51
=== v0taguz_ [n=votaguz@190.65.15.25] has joined #kubuntu
=== jake__ [n=jake@97-86-39-151.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisazzco,  and what brand is this sound card?07:52
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-117.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
franco[REPOST (third and maybe last time, I hope)]  how can I uninstall a driver via ndiswrapper? I tried "ndiswrapper -r nameofdriver" but it gave me this error: "couldn't delete nameofdriver; Inappropriate ioctl for device"07:52
=== isengard [n=isengard@host196.190-136-104.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu
azzcodr_willis: It's a sweex, I've also got an onbrad HDA Intel which I do not intend to use07:53
=== isengard is now known as Clerigo
dr_willisazzco,  it would of been best to disable the onboard in bios. befor installing07:53
^Rich^is there a step by step on how to do it?? please noob here07:53
azzcodr_willis: I can't really find where to disable it I'm afraid..07:53
dr_willisnever heard of a sweex - so cant help ya much more then suggest check ing the ubuntu forums for that speciifc brand/chipset of sound card07:53
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-117.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
azzcoI've had sound from the sweex soundcard before but is there someway to save the settings from kmix?07:54
=== _Shade_ [n=adam@nat2.subscribers.sferia.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisim glad under Feisty i can get wirelesing going :)07:54
=== felzix_ [n=felzix@c-24-5-196-117.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisazzco,  under some other disrto?07:54
=== Weejewel|AFK [i=lolzx@ip54529f80.speed.planet.nl] has joined #kubuntu
francodr_willis: you lucky07:54
dr_williskmix just sets the volumes.07:54
franco:D07:54
Weejewel|AFK"Checking File Systems", how can I disable this? :-)07:55
dr_willisfranco,  yep - intalling fwcutter downloads/installs all the stuff i need.07:55
francofwcutter?07:55
dr_willisWeejewel|AFK,  trust me you dont. :) ya can set the count on the filesystems tobe very high befor a check is forced however.07:55
azzcoOh... is there some graphical way to switch sound settings?07:55
=== secleinteer [n=scl@adsl-70-237-202-185.dsl.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willis!info fwcutter07:55
ubotuPackage fwcutter does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas07:55
dr_willis!find fwcutter07:55
ubotuFound: bcm43xx-fwcutter07:55
dr_willis!alsa07:55
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP307:55
Weejewel|AFKdr_willis, it takes about 30 minutes..07:55
=== jf_ [n=chatzill@ip565e9e6d.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== S-Angeli [n=Spiro@host74-198-static.48-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisWeejewel|AFK,  you imply you are seeing that on every boot up?07:56
Weejewel|AFKya07:56
=== dr_willis has ESP...
dr_willis:)07:56
jf_i need to uninstall kubuntu what must i do07:56
^Rich^ok, i have a dell 1501, and CANNOT get wireless working, last time i had this problem, it was a simple command to fix it, i found it on a kubuntu blog, which i cannot remember now.. i have since reinstalled kubuntu and cannot remember how to do it07:56
=== S-Angeli [n=Spiro@host74-198-static.48-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisyour drives are either not unmounting properly, or are really munged up.. You are not using XP and that IFS tool to access the linux drives are you?07:56
dr_willisjf_,  use the Xp install cd's recovery mode and the 'fixmbr' command to remove grub. then repartition/format the linux partitions.07:57
Weejewel|AFKdr_willis- eh? ;P07:57
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-117.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willis!ifs07:57
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ifs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:57
dr_willis!ext307:57
ubotuext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org07:57
dr_willisWeejewel|AFK,  may want to boot a live cd and use fsck on the partitions.07:57
Weejewel|AFKit does every time and they are correct07:58
thirdyhow do I reduce eye candy in kubuntu, the one with slide meter07:58
=== dewd [n=mark@84.243.234.130] has joined #kubuntu
=== angasule [n=angasule@190.49.199.30] has joined #kubuntu
angasule!DVD07:58
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs07:58
=== _Shade_ [n=adam@nat2.subscribers.sferia.net] has joined #kubuntu
jf_all of i windows07:58
dr_willisWeejewel|AFK,  you got somting goofing up then - or it wouldent be doing that.07:59
^Rich^you guys arntof any help07:59
Weejewel|AFKwell, it works fine, so cant i disable it?07:59
BluesKajthirdy, what eye candy ?07:59
=== nuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willis^Rich^,  wireless is a HUGE topic07:59
soulriderjf_: why do you wanna remove kubuntu ?07:59
francoI'm just crazy: I've installed fwcutter without knowing what it is :p07:59
=== steph [n=steph@193.19.100-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisWeejewel|AFK,  i disagree with it 'working fine'  if its checking on my 200+gb drives it only takes a few secs.07:59
Weejewel|AFKHeHe08:00
Weejewel|AFKwell whatever, it never says something is wrong08:00
Weejewel|AFKbut cant i simply disable it? :-)08:00
dr_willisWeejewel|AFK,  the system is set to  auto fsck every so many mounts - like 30, that # is changeable.08:00
dr_willisjust boot once and leave it on for days on end. :)08:00
Weejewel|AFKwhere is the config file located?08:00
Weejewel|AFKhmm08:01
Weejewel|AFKi dont get that part lol =P08:01
dr_willisits a core part of the boot scripts its not some little trivial setting08:01
DragnslcrOn the Disk & Filesystem Settings, how can I make a mounted disk readable by a normal user (it's mounting as root:root with 500 permissions)08:01
thirdyBluesKaj, wen I installed kubuntu-desktop, I got a dialog to optimize KDE08:01
Weejewel|AFKdamn..08:01
thirdyhow do I get to that again?08:01
=== palolo^ [n=paolo@host22-80.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has left #kubuntu []
=== dr_willis is reminded of someone Locking the barn after the horse gets out...
soulriderthirdy: i wizard to setup KDE? like, you can select tons of settings aga in?08:02
=== wvmac [n=wvmac@c-71-61-165-73.hsd1.wv.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisI ermber that wizard - its not enabled by default in kubuntu08:03
thirdyaga in?08:03
dr_williswhat was it called...08:03
=== eriefisher [n=dan@XPLR-TS-11-TOR-72-45-79-86.barrettxplore.com] has joined #kubuntu
thirdyhow do I get to that?08:03
dr_willisid say ask in #kde08:03
thirdyok08:03
=== S-Angeli [n=Spiro@host74-198-static.48-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisI find that wizard rather useless.. You can set everything in it from the other theme/settings control panel08:04
=== ferox [n=ferox@d83-190-16-207.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisso it dosent really do much then give ya a place to set a few settings in one tight area08:04
=== stefano_ [n=stefano@200-158-228-6.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #kubuntu
feroxdoes anyone know how to enable/disable systray icons on kde?08:04
=== gemidjy [n=gemidjy@unaffiliated/gemidjy] has joined #kubuntu
stefano_Hello all, I have an Acer Aspire 5102WLMI notebook and I'm having some problems with my USB mouse. I've searched some info on Google about it and tried the options it gave to me, but unfortunately none worked... did anybody have the same problem with USB devices?08:05
=== S-Angeli [n=Spiro@host74-198-static.48-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"]
BluesKajferox, right click in the panel.../help/kde handbook08:07
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
=== TheGateKeeper [n=gatekeep@82-36-115-224.cable.ubr03.king.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
angasulewhat's a good DVD authoring program?08:07
BluesKajtovid, dvedede08:08
BluesKajerr devede08:08
titanix88sercik: solved?08:08
angasulethanks :)08:08
BluesKajsomeone mentioned avidemux , but Ihaven't tried it08:09
=== abe [n=kin@249-215-28-200.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisi use that all the time BluesKaj08:09
dr_willisti convert videos to play on my gp2x08:09
BluesKajmy fav is tovid ...comes in both gui and cli versions08:09
=== djdarkman_ [n=djdarkma@fl-86-120-23-128.fiberlink.mures.rdsnet.ro] has joined #kubuntu
=== abe [n=kin@249-215-28-200.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu
=== manchicken__ [n=manchkn@74-134-94-223.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu
angasuletovid doesn't show up in the search, though08:10
angasuleand devede is gtk2 :/08:10
=== thedeviantone [n=thedevia@ip68-231-5-234.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== abe [n=kin@249-215-28-200.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88hendaus: wb.08:10
=== Panda200x [n=niallmcc@user-514f3258.l2.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuHeya, dr_willis08:11
franco[Simplified repost]  I installed a driver for my wi-fi adapter via ndiswrapper, but I had this message: "Invalid driver". How can I solve this problem and use my wi-fi adapter?08:11
=== LasseP [n=xerox@c-4476e255.010-198-73746f32.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #kubuntu
=== marcos [n=marcos@201008181132.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajangasule, http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Tovid_changelog08:12
=== v0taguz [n=votaguz@190.65.10.246] has joined #kubuntu
=== msspngn [n=msspngn@dsl540038FD.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== wojtek [n=wojtek@77-45-3-113.asta-net.com.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== wojtek is now known as pincker
dr_willisMinataku,  i just got a call from my ISP.. aparently i was 'uploading a lot  of data' over the last few days. :)08:12
dr_willisTold them it was a Linux ISO torrent. (which it was) well part of it was.. :)08:13
titanix88BluesKaj: hey :008:13
angasuledr_willis: I would have been much less polite...08:13
=== Zackson [n=zion@200.82.222.99] has joined #kubuntu
angasulebut then, my ISP is borderline criminal08:13
dr_willisangasule,  but that was the truth.. oddly enough. :) LinuxMint3.0 came out..08:13
pinckerhelo everybody08:14
dr_willisthey asked me to throttle down the uploads if they will be going on for a long time.  heh08:14
angasuledr_willis: but it's none of their business08:14
titanix88dr_willis : why they care about what u dload or not? isn't that pishing?08:14
Minatakudr_willis: Heh08:14
pinckeri have a question08:14
MinatakuI've never had an issue like that with mine08:14
dr_willistitanix88,  aparently it was the Upload that triggered it.08:14
angasuleseriously, if they don't want you to use the bandwidth, why do they sell it?08:14
BluesKajhey titanix8808:14
pinckercould you tel me how started nvida configuration panel ?08:14
=== payam [n=payam@c83-255-4-247.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu
payam#ubuntu-se08:15
payam#ubuntu-ir08:15
llutzpayam: alt-f2: nvidia-settings08:15
titanix88pincker: "nvidia-settings"08:15
Minatakudr_willis: I guess they just want you to throttle back, at least they're not threatening you08:15
pinckerok, i try it08:15
dr_willisMinataku,  yea - thats what the guy impled. :)08:15
Minataku^^08:15
pinckerit works, thanks :)08:16
dr_willisbut i allredy got my iso now..  and some other things as well. heh08:16
Minatakudr_willis: Find a box and wrap or too busy finding incredibly obscure crap for your wife?08:16
BluesKajdr_willis, got a big server ?08:16
=== ian_ [n=ian@host-202-163-249-196.dhcp.infocom.ph] has joined #kubuntu
payamllutz:what are you talking about?08:16
thedeviantoneCan anyone assist me with compiling a kernel for SCSI controller support?08:16
dr_willisBluesKaj,  no really. Just  been torenting a linux iso and 2 other torrents this weekend.08:16
llutzups, payam sry, was for pincker08:16
=== anyo [n=anyo@h160.178.213.151.ip.alltel.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisMinataku,  got a box. need some bubble wrap.. cleaning up the basement also. looking for any other parts.08:17
BluesKajoh really dr_willis, and they chastized you for that ...wow08:17
dr_willisMinataku,  where are you anyway?08:17
titanix88isp's are damned in bangladesh to even restrict users from using specific sites.08:17
dr_willisBluesKaj,  yea - i 'think' they might of been thinking  i had a unsecured wireless router. that was their first question.08:17
=== startswithz_ [n=bohonz@adsl-65-67-135-205.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajok, shared network08:18
dr_willisI do have a new laptop with wireless.. that actually COULD of been infected or somthing.08:18
titanix88dAmned isps >(08:18
dr_williswife had turned on her wirleess on it. even tho she is wired08:18
Minatakudr_willis: Eastern Virginia08:18
BluesKajworried about neighbours piggybacking08:18
startswithz_I recently installed a windows system onto a second harddrive on my kubuntu machine08:19
startswithz_I was able to successfully boot into both a couple of times08:19
startswithz_but then the kubuntu system broke08:19
=== Yatsu [n=jmatrix@100-176.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
startswithz_I can't even open the filesystem in knoppix08:19
dr_willisMinataku,  ok :) at least its not Outer-Mongolia!08:19
dr_willisMinataku,  just close! :)08:19
Minatakudr_willis: If you have any other interesting systems that you don't want, rattle them off in PM ;308:19
dr_willisRocky Mountians.. and so on. :)08:19
MinatakuCool08:20
dr_willisMinataku,  just an apple 2c, that semi-portable one. and a macSE. and a few C64s08:20
MinatakuShouldn't cost me too much then08:20
MinatakuSE/30?08:20
dr_willisgot rid of the Ti's  at a rummage sale08:20
=== paolo [n=paolo@host253-133-dynamic.0-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisHmm.. Not sure what SE it is.. small screen b/w  external 5mb hd.08:20
dr_willis2 floppy drives08:20
MinatakuHm08:21
dr_willisit does work :)08:21
dr_williswife wanted me to set it up for her.. then she saw the screen08:21
MinatakuHm... kinda heavy, though, I bet08:21
MinatakuHeh08:21
MinatakuI have a Mac Classic here08:21
YatsuIm so glad I made the switch to linux08:21
dr_williseven got some games on it. Yea its a bit heavy. about  as heavy as a small tv.08:21
=== haschb [n=haschb@xdsl-84-44-197-167.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuHm08:21
=== _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuI'll think over that08:22
dr_willissince its a monitor built in..08:22
MinatakuI definitely want the HDD at least, though ;308:22
dr_willisI got an iMACDV also. :)08:22
dr_willishehheh..08:22
titanix88Yatsu: :)08:22
MinatakuiMACDV?08:22
dr_willisscsi  5mb :)08:22
dr_willisMinataku,  one of their Purty "grey" imacs shen they had all the colors a few years back08:22
Minatakudr_willis: Can always open it up and replace it with a larger one08:22
Minatakudr_willis: Coo08:22
titanix88dr_willis : it's a kubuntu support channel! REmember?08:22
dr_willisppc 500mhz DVD drive.  my mom may want it however for her email/web surfing. it aint much of an imac - but it does have osx on it.08:23
dr_willisKubuntu PPC runs on it. :)08:23
=== marta [n=Maria-41@ip565e9e6d.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu
Minatakudr_willis: Heehee08:23
dr_willisppc support got dropped dident it?08:23
MinatakuThankfully there are other distros still with PPC support08:23
=== jtt [n=jtholmes@adsl-065-006-144-253.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88dr_willis: bebebe...>(08:23
dr_willisI SO should of put Kubuntu on the wifes new laptop and told her  it was WindiowsVista08:23
MinatakuI believe Debian supports all of 'em08:23
YatsuI originally had gnome but decided it was time to get rid of gnome, so I installed kde08:23
MinatakuI know NetBSD supports almost anything08:23
payamwhat the hell is SO?08:24
YatsuKde is working much better for some reason08:24
dr_willisSO ?08:24
=== nkoc [n=nkoc@p5082fead.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuThe word "so" in caps for emphasis08:24
martai have grub +  kubuntu and windows, and i want to reinstall windows keeping intact my kubunto OS what should i do first?08:24
dr_willisStar Office ?08:24
titanix88dr_willis: how come ur wife not be in this channel(since u talk a lot abt her ;)08:24
hattahey, is it possible to have kubuntu do a lazy unmount (like umount -l) when ejecting the CD?08:24
Minatakudr_willis: He was referring to [14:23:45]  dr_willis I SO should of put Kubuntu on the wifes new laptop and told her  it was WindiowsVista08:25
dr_willistitanix88,  she used to hang in yahoo Chat rooms - she never talked.. just listened to everyone else.. *how dull*08:25
=== word [n=word@ip70-162-166-56.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== arne_ [n=arne@Ya23c.y.pppool.de] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuHeehee08:25
dr_willisheh heh.08:25
=== Zackson [n=zion@200.82.222.99] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willis"For sure dude! like we had this big wave ! and it was So Gnarley!"08:25
arne_hy08:25
hattaI really hate tracking down wtf ever has /cdrom open08:26
YatsuHmm my ati card came up as restricted hardware, but the 3d acceleration still works08:26
payamwhat ois SO?08:26
titanix88marta: u should first backup every important doc first, then install windows & kubutu whoissshhh....reinstall it.08:26
hattaI've never had a problem with umount -l, I don't see why kubuntu doesn't do it by default08:27
=== Kltos [n=azagra@62.57.71.37] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willispayam,  a way people speak   "she was SO! HOT!"08:27
martabut reinstalling windows will keep kubuntu ?08:27
=== Tux2B [n=julien2@bal31-1-82-237-203-33.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
payamwhy did you write with big  word then?08:27
=== Tux2B [n=julien2@bal31-1-82-237-203-33.fbx.proxad.net] has left #kubuntu []
titanix88payam: where did u get it :-?08:28
payamwaite08:28
=== anneso [n=anneso@203.80.48.117] has joined #kubuntu
llutzmarta: it will overwrite grub08:28
dr_willis<Minataku> The word "so" in caps for emphasis08:28
llutz!grub|marta08:28
ubotumarta: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:28
payamhere08:28
payam I SO should of put Kubuntu on the wifes new laptop and told her  it was WindiowsVista08:28
=== brocoli [n=brocoli@189-220-21-190.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu
martadual boot will disapear08:28
titanix88marta : windows literally wipes out the boot sector :(08:29
=== Agrajag` [i=Agrajag@c-67-186-9-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #Kubuntu
llutzmarta: follow ubotu to reinstall grub after installation08:29
=== danish [n=danish@adsl-71-135-47-155.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu
llutzmarta: and, surprise, dual-boot works again :)08:29
MinatakuHeehee08:29
martaOK08:29
MinatakuYeah, Windows is an ass08:30
titanix88llutz: it did not work for me cause i had my / in a logical partition. :(08:30
llutzMinataku: no, just kind of blind08:30
MinatakuNo, it's an ass08:31
dr_willisMinataku,  an ASS!08:31
MinatakuIt used to deliberately destroy OS/2 Boot Manager partitions08:31
angasulea donkey?08:31
MinatakuIt may still do so08:31
=== nukang [n=nukang@user-0c2hjjg.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu
llutztitanix88: that usually makes no difference08:31
titanix88llutz : even vista ignores linux. What do u say? it's tactical ignorence?08:31
Minatakuangasule: Think of the colloquial definition08:31
llutztitanix88: wtf is vista? ;)08:32
Minatakutitanix88: Absolute fear08:32
MinatakuThat's what it is08:32
GrueTamerno, its tactical ignorance08:32
GrueTamertitanix88 is absolutely right08:32
dr_willisllutz,  the new flagship of the borg!08:32
angasuleIlokaasu: it's 'sight' in spanish, and sounds similar to the spanish word for 'BS'08:32
=== vit_ [n=vit@201.209.159.240] has joined #kubuntu
=== Linktim [n=Linktim@ALyon-158-1-40-232.w90-29.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
angasuleMinataku: let me remain ignorant of your dirty talk :P08:32
Minatakudr_willis: Except instead of a cube made out of pipes and framework and such08:32
=== Fri13 [n=paristo@cs181179233.pp.htv.fi] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuVista is a cube made out of garbage08:33
MinatakuBut it's their largest one so far!08:33
dr_williswith a glossy front end08:33
=== Kr4t05 [n=andrew@dsl-206-251-14-231.dsl0.crls.pa.net] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuAnd all the crushed glass and flecks of metal make it look all shiny08:33
BluesKajmarta , you may have a hidden grub menu afterwards , so you can fix that by editing the /boot/grub/menu.lst08:33
GrueTamerVista is a patched version of xp which is a patched version of 2000 which is an upgrade over 98 which is what 95 shouldve been which was a downstep from 3.1 which was the last step before DOS started to get eliminated08:34
MaTiAzGrueTamer: Uh no08:34
MinatakuWrong08:34
dr_williswhich was a ripoff of cpm?08:34
MaTiAzWindows 2000 is an upgrade of NT08:34
=== Minataku nods
GrueTameroh, right, my bad08:34
MinatakuNT and 32 were never one and the same08:34
fdoving!offtopic08:34
=== chris_ [n=chris@cp13071-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!08:34
MaTiAzYeah08:34
=== Ryiel_ [n=ryiel@183-20-115.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== chris_ is now known as chrismir
GrueTamerthat was a dumb mistake :)08:34
angasuleI want a KDE DVD authoring program!08:35
angasuleMinataku: write one for me now08:35
BluesKajthe offtopic policeman is back ! :) ...hi fdoving08:35
fdovingangasule: seen kmediafactory ?08:35
Minatakuangasule: It won't write DVDs... or anything else08:35
MinatakuIs that okay?08:35
MinatakuIf so, I'll get right on it08:35
MinatakuXD08:35
MinatakuSeriously, though, sorry, not gonna happen X308:35
angasuleMinataku: but will it have the word 'author' in the name?08:35
BluesKajangasule, http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Tovid_changelog08:35
fdovinghi blueskaj :)08:36
=== daphbobo_ [n=nats@196.218.30.10] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKaj :)08:36
angasuleBluesKaj: that uses Tcl/Tk, are you kidding me?08:36
=== Wesselaar [n=jan@i230124.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajno angasule ,it works and works well08:37
dr_willisDarn Young Kids with their Fancy Smanchy  languages!08:37
dr_willisComal was good enough for me!08:37
angasuleBluesKaj: 'no'? It says right there it uses Tkinter08:38
titanix88angasule : my dumb brain , but dvd authoring means  :-?08:38
GrueTamerprobably means makin dvd's08:38
dr_willisangasule,  'no hes not kidding you'08:38
angasulemaking DVD-video08:38
BluesKajangasule, they have a room here #tovid08:38
angasuledr_willis: COBOL for teh win :P08:38
MaTiAzLOLCode pwns everything :)08:39
angasulea program to make the menus is the important bit, and it must ouput a .iso ready to burn by k3b08:39
dr_willisits really amazing the # of computer languages out there08:39
titanix88GrueTamer: So how true a gamer r u?08:39
angasulehehe LOLCODE is great :)08:39
BluesKajit transcodes, authors, makes and burns dvd08:39
MaTiAzCAN I HAS STDIO? etc. :)08:39
BluesKajit transcodes, authors, makes and burns dvd08:39
angasuleBluesKaj: I don't care, I want a KDE or at least Qt program08:39
BluesKajit has a gui as well08:40
dr_willisid rather have a tool that works.. then worry about  what its using08:40
=== vit [n=vit@190.75.78.226] has joined #kubuntu
MinatakuHeh08:40
llutzangasule:maybe  qdvdauthor08:40
MinatakuIt'll be called "I could crap a better DVD"08:40
titanix88hey everyone let's go offtopic & bash vista!!!! :))08:40
MinatakuOr crapdvd for short08:40
=== benutzer [n=benutzer@p508af9c0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willistitanix88,  lets go to #debian and bash vista! :P08:40
MinatakuSorry, I'm playing Forza Motorsport 2 and I hate pausing mid-race08:41
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajdevede works , but I haven't bothered with it since discovering tovid08:41
=== nuuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== tradotto_ [n=tradotto@216.14.71.237] has joined #kubuntu
=== hyper__ch [n=hyper@84.75.93.168] has joined #kubuntu
=== Yatsu [n=jmatrix@65.35.176.100] has joined #kubuntu
=== Ryiel_ [n=ryiel@183-20-115.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== chrismir [n=chris@cp13071-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== vit_ [n=vit@201.209.159.240] has joined #kubuntu
=== pincker [n=wojtek@77-45-3-113.asta-net.com.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== Panda200x [n=niallmcc@user-514f3258.l2.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== djdarkman_ [n=djdarkma@fl-86-120-23-128.fiberlink.mures.rdsnet.ro] has joined #kubuntu
=== nuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== dewd [n=mark@84.243.234.130] has joined #kubuntu
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-117.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== grxmrx [n=grxmrx@user12.112.udn.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== henri_ [n=henri@a80-186-160-23.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu
=== Freejack_CSI [n=Freejack@71-8-78-223.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== binks [n=binks@82-38-226-77.cable.ubr03.wake.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== xardias [n=xardias@xdsl-87-78-142-163.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== aziz [n=aziz@chello084112072063.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu
=== ReMiiRuru [n=l@host-87-99-45-55.lanet.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== sebbar__ [n=sebbar@p57b3d760.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Eleniondil [n=eric@pon77-1-88-167-48-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Philip5 [n=Philip@c83-253-39-49.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu
=== mrigns_ [n=mrigns@ACB0FAB7.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Jonty [n=jadh@77-97-207-100.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== Der_Dude [n=babel@p54814F3B.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Goliath23 [n=david@dslb-084-058-060-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== jonasp [i=jonas@i59F7066F.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== tradotto [n=tradotto@237-71-14-216-arpa.cust.cinci.current.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== fusspils [n=fusspils@194-144-36-99.du.xdsl.is] has joined #kubuntu
=== hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu
=== thierry_ [n=thierry@lns-bzn-52-82-65-76-35.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== idefixx [i=rqVWvzGQ@unaffiliated/idefixx] has joined #kubuntu
=== Eeyore-Jr [n=chatzill@p5n22.ruraltel.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ArakuS [n=ArakuS@host-81-190-165-61.gorzow.mm.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== JohnFlux [n=JohnFlux@konversation/developer/JohnFlux] has joined #kubuntu
=== enakiakbd [i=0@86.122.116.44] has joined #kubuntu
=== SkiffX [n=SkiffX@cpe-72-225-174-254.si.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== dewey [n=dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== fernando_ [n=fernando@vps.fmvz.usp.br] has joined #kubuntu
=== ardchoille [n=Ian@unaffiliated/ardchoille42] has joined #kubuntu
=== _max_ [i=xXx@64.18.141.151] has joined #kubuntu
=== binks_ [n=binks@82-38-226-77.cable.ubr03.wake.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== hoisn [n=hoisn@87.163.103.129] has joined #kubuntu
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== one [n=one@ppp-82-135-92-20.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu
angasulehmmm, the adept search sucks terrible08:41
=== Jonty__ [n=jadh@77-97-207-100.cable.ubr11.edin.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== Goliath23_ [n=david@dslb-084-058-060-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== boss_hog [n=thierry@82.65.76.35] has joined #kubuntu
=== zerbero__1 [n=jga@pD9E63F18.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== niallmcconville [n=niallmcc@user-514f3258.l2.c3.dsl.pol.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== djdarkman__ [n=djdarkma@fl-86-120-23-128.fiberlink.mures.rdsnet.ro] has joined #kubuntu
=== ahmed [n=ahmed@217.54.224.227] has joined #kubuntu
=== Der_Dude_beim_bo [n=babel@p54814f3b.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
onewhere could i find the file, the k-menu entrys are stored in ?08:42
=== Ryiel__ [n=ryiel@183-20-115.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== sebbar_ [n=sebbar@p57B3D760.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== dewd [n=mark@84.243.234.130] has joined #kubuntu
=== ArakuZ [n=ArakuS@host-81-190-165-61.gorzow.mm.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== aziz_ [n=aziz@chello084112072063.6.11.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu
=== henri__ [n=henri@a80-186-160-23.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisi dont think its a single file one08:43
dr_williswhat are you trying to do exactly one ?08:43
=== Ryiel__ is now known as Ryiel
=== illriginal [n=illrigin@c-66-229-106-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== JohnFlux_ [n=JohnFlux@cpc3-brig10-0-0-cust96.brig.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
onedr_willis i want to copy the file to another kubuntu08:43
=== ReMiiRuru [n=l@host-87-99-45-55.lanet.net.pl] has joined #kubuntu
fdovingone: .desktop files make up the kmenu, is it a specific applications entry you're looking for?08:44
onedr_willis the installed programms are the same but i wanna the same kmenu :-)08:44
=== ebbu [n=ebbu@36-189.adsl.lpoy.dnainternet.fi] has joined #kubuntu
onefdoving no i just need to copy all entrys ;-)08:45
=== fusspils_ [n=fusspils@194-144-36-99.du.xdsl.is] has joined #kubuntu
=== giorgio [n=giorgio@d83-184-225-198.cust.tele2.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== jmatrix_ [n=jmatrix@100-176.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
onethere is no .desktop ?08:45
=== Andil [n=eric@pon77-1-88-167-48-28.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Edulix [n=edulix@216.Red-83-60-211.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
fdovingone: /usr/share/applnk/ and /usr/share/applications/08:46
=== netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> kubrick.freenode.net
=== pincker [n=wojtek@77-45-3-113.asta-net.com.pl] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88BluesKaj, dr_willis: come offtopic.it's getting interesting :)08:47
=== dewey [n=dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== binks_ [n=binks@82-38-226-77.cable.ubr03.wake.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== Ryiel_ [n=ryiel@183-20-115.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== idefixx [n=idefixx@195.225.106.194] has joined #kubuntu
=== illriginal [n=illrigin@c-66-229-106-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== hoisn [n=hoisn@87.163.103.129] has joined #kubuntu
=== tradotto_ [n=tradotto@216.14.71.237] has joined #kubuntu
=== hyper__ch [n=hyper@84.75.93.168] has joined #kubuntu
=== chrismir [n=chris@cp13071-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== vit_ [n=vit@201.209.159.240] has joined #kubuntu
=== Ryiel [n=ryiel@183-20-117.ip.adsl.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== grxmrx [n=grxmrx@user12.112.udn.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== Freejack_CSI [n=Freejack@71-8-78-223.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== xardias [n=xardias@xdsl-87-78-142-163.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== Philip5 [n=Philip@c83-253-39-49.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu
=== mrigns_ [n=mrigns@ACB0FAB7.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Goliath23 [n=david@dslb-084-058-060-210.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== tradotto [n=tradotto@237-71-14-216-arpa.cust.cinci.current.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== hyper_ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu
=== thierry_ [n=thierry@lns-bzn-52-82-65-76-35.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Eeyore-Jr [n=chatzill@p5n22.ruraltel.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ArakuS [n=ArakuS@host-81-190-165-61.gorzow.mm.pl] has joined #kubuntu
=== JohnFlux [n=JohnFlux@konversation/developer/JohnFlux] has joined #kubuntu
=== enakiakbd [i=0@86.122.116.44] has joined #kubuntu
=== SkiffX [n=SkiffX@cpe-72-225-174-254.si.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== fernando_ [n=fernando@vps.fmvz.usp.br] has joined #kubuntu
=== ardchoille [n=Ian@unaffiliated/ardchoille42] has joined #kubuntu
=== _max_ [i=xXx@64.18.141.151] has joined #kubuntu
=== Eeyore-Jr_ [n=chatzill@p5n22.ruraltel.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== zerbero__1 [n=jga@pD9E63F18.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
hattawhat does kubuntu do when it mounts a cdrom?08:48
=== Eeyore-Jr_ is now known as Eeyore-Jr
hattait's not just issuing a mount command right?08:48
hattabecause I notice the CD icon gets repositioned if I just enter a mount command08:48
=== sabakas1 [n=solapus@66.90.121.129] has joined #kubuntu
hattais there a kde command that mounts the cdrom?08:49
=== xardias [n=xardias@xdsl-87-78-142-163.netcologne.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== tradotto_ [n=tradotto@237-71-14-216-arpa.cust.cinci.current.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willishatta,  not that i am aware of.08:50
llp78theres a shell command to mount not sure about kde - it auto mounts08:50
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisgo to media:// and see whats in there?08:51
dr_willisor was it media:/ or08:51
=== chrismir [n=chris@cp13071-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== juan_ [n=juan@cm-85-152-76-68.telecable.es] has joined #kubuntu
hattayeah it mounts ok, but if I do a lazy unmount it doesn't automount after that08:52
=== hyper__ch [n=hyper@84-75-93-168.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #kubuntu
=== ardchoille [n=Ian@65-102-150-243.tukw.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== fernando_ [n=fernando@vps.fmvz.usp.br] has joined #kubuntu
=== Philip5 [n=Philip@c83-253-39-49.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu
=== Freejack_CSI [n=Freejack@71-8-78-223.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== SkiffX [n=SkiffX@unaffiliated/skiff] has joined #kubuntu
hattaso I have to manually mount it, which makes it forget the position of the CDROM icon on the desktop08:53
=== hoisn [n=hoisn@p57A36781.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== illriginal [n=illrigin@c-66-229-106-133.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== _max_ [i=xXx@64.18.141.151] has joined #kubuntu
=== mrigns_ [n=mrigns@ACB0FAB7.ipt.aol.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
=== idefixx [i=0JVK0brq@unaffiliated/idefixx] has joined #kubuntu
=== xzeta [n=xzeta@201.30.99.110] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
=== jovans [n=jovans@p54B07FB1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
xzetaAlgum tc comigo?08:59
=== Wesselaar [n=jan@i230124.upc-i.chello.nl] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
xzetaOi09:00
llp78xzeta: hello09:00
=== sercik [n=sercik@host15-164-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
xzetafalas portugus?09:02
=== nikkiana [n=nikkiana@c-24-34-69-166.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
llp78noa09:02
hattahey I figured it out09:02
llp78you need to find the kubuntu support for your country09:02
titanix88xzeta: it09:02
hattato mount the cdrom with kde from the command line, do: dcop kded mediamanager mount /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_label_CDROM09:02
hattadcop is awesome <309:02
=== paolo [n=__a___@host190-111.pool8250.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88is an international channel.09:02
blekoshello, my amarok doesnt scan my hd with my mp3 properly any ideas?09:03
titanix88hatta: what the hell!!?? u found.09:03
=== Clerigo [n=isengard@host196.190-136-104.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKaj!pt | xzeta09:04
=== sean__ [n=sean@82-46-25-42.cable.ubr01.hawk.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
ubotuxzeta: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.09:04
titanix88blekos: what do u mean properly?09:04
=== ArTo [n=iaguis@38.Red-83-37-167.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== jmatrix_ [n=jmatrix@100-176.35-65.tampabay.res.rr.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
xzeta#ubuntu-br09:05
=== Ace2016 [n=ace@80-47-96-203.lond-hex.dynamic.dial.as9105.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== ringlej_ [n=ringlej@c-71-62-243-179.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== dellilah [n=dellilah@217-211-191-208-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== sercik [n=sercik@host15-164-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== dellilah is now known as Dellilah
blekoswell, i scan the directory, where i have my mp3, but when i search for a couple of them in amarok they are not there09:10
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
Admiral_Chicagoblekos: do you have mp3 support for amarok09:11
Admiral_Chicago!mp309:11
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:11
blekosyest09:11
=== emonkey [n=emonkey@static-pro-212-101-27-121.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu
blekosyes09:12
xzetaMe ajuda a entender essa programa?09:12
blekoshow can i see how many files are in my collection?09:12
=== Clerigo [n=isengard@host196.190-136-104.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu
Admiral_Chicago!es09:12
ubotuSi busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.09:12
titanix88blekos: amarok lists files by tagg. not by their name.09:12
=== payam is now known as Payam
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
xzetaHelp em portugus-br!09:14
blekosno objection to that, but the songs i'm looking for are available in banshee...09:14
=== becky [n=becky@81-86-140-231.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKaj!br | xzeta09:15
ubotuxzeta: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.09:15
beckyhi09:16
titanix88blekos: maybe they are listed in different catagory(e.g. i have a album with diff artist tag & it's filed to "different Artists" album)09:17
=== Agrajag` [i=Agrajag@c-67-186-9-39.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #Kubuntu
=== plugs [n=Kurly@ip68-98-113-51.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
xzetaObriado! <Bluekaj>09:18
plugsI have a fairly new ATI graphics card, and its onboard fan is broken. Is this a big deal?09:19
=== rainer_frey [n=rainerfr@p57B08F53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== Zvezdichko [n=svetlio@ns1.metincom.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Clerigo [n=isengard@host196.190-136-104.telecom.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu
dr_williswith newer cards.. yes it can be09:19
dr_willisid at least place a fan in the case blowing on it.09:19
=== morten [n=morten@0x5553755d.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu
=== cathal_ [n=cathal@89.101.192.70] has joined #kubuntu
=== nkoc [n=nkoc@p5082FEAD.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
plugsokay, cool.09:21
=== fratellini [n=fratelli@ip-212.net-80-236-27.asnieres.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #kubuntu
=== Neutrinux [n=Neutrinu@85.229.102-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== torin_ [n=torin@lo-2-vpn2.matrix.farlep.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Zeelot [n=Zeelot@c-76-109-186-170.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== emonkey [n=emonkey@static-pro-212-101-27-121.adsl.solnet.ch] has joined #kubuntu
beckyI just installed ubuntu on my laptop - xorg.conf has 1280x800 as it should, but X keeps loading in 1024x768.09:24
=== darryl_ [n=darryl@CPE000802212b48-CM0011aea484a4.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== becky [n=becky@81-86-140-231.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu
eljefehas anyone's update from today (or recently) stopped the DMA on their DVD drive?09:25
=== jf_ [n=jf@neu67-1-82-227-68-202.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== aroo [n=justin@53.181.188.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
darryl_Is there a way to tell what program is accessing my sound card?  I closed xmms and i keep hearing music playing, I have verifed that xmms is not running in the processes, but music keeps playing, sounds like its "buffered" and stuck in a loop.  How can I check for whats using the sound card and kill the process?09:26
=== pauljw [n=paul@pool123.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== morten [n=morten@0x5553755d.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #kubuntu
=== tails [n=tails@pool-71-170-197-27.dllstx.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== [tUd] Pensacola [n=pensacol@149.63-67-87.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #kubuntu
=== mart81 [n=ident@a80-126-145-212.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== soulrider [n=mauro@r190-64-95-186.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #kubuntu
=== aldin [n=aldin@cm-4817.europronet.ba] has joined #kubuntu
=== aldin [n=aldin@cm-4817.europronet.ba] has joined #kubuntu
eljefeK3B gave me this error message today: DMA disabled on device DVDRW  Anyone know why?09:28
=== pirateking__ is now known as kies_
=== kies_ is now known as pirateking__
BluesKajclose all browser pages first of all, darryl_ :)09:28
=== dsmith [n=dsmith@c-24-118-233-101.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== aldin [n=aldin@cm-4817.europronet.ba] has joined #kubuntu
dsmithHey All09:29
darryl_BluesKaj: you think its a browser?  Music was playing from xmms ....09:29
dsmithWas wondering if anyone can help me with a configuration in Kbunutu 7.04 x6409:29
darryl_BluesKaj: heh - now that makes no sense, killed firefox music stoped, but I was never playing music in firefox.....09:30
=== superbear [n=matthias@dtmd-4db5d413.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== sercik [n=sercik@host15-164-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajadverts darryl_09:31
BluesKajsome site launched an ad with music09:31
=== plugs [n=Kurly@ip68-98-113-51.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #kubuntu []
darryl_BluesKaj: yea... but interesting thing... I was not on any site tha that had ads "at least that I was aware of" - and funny thing is it was playing the same music as one of the MP3's I was listening to in xmms heh!  Strange....09:32
=== Anakin [i=0@86.122.116.44] has joined #kubuntu
=== franck [n=franck@ABayonne-157-1-13-239.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88eljefe: try "sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/cdrom"09:32
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88eljefe: i guess ur DVDRW in /dev/cdrom09:33
=== ep|k [n=user@60.51.53.201] has joined #kubuntu
=== becky [n=becky@81-86-140-231.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #kubuntu
superbearcould someone please post me the openldap init-script (/etc/init.d/slapd)09:33
BluesKajamarok may have done an auto-tag with the song cddb09:34
=== ringlej__ [n=ringlej@c-71-62-243-179.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajor xmmms rather09:34
=== ep|k [n=user@60.51.53.201] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
titanix88eljefe: it can be also in /dev/dvd09:36
llp78Amarok is not user friendly - what other alternatives are good09:36
=== francois [n=francois@modemcable020.165-83-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #kubuntu
llutzllp78: define "userfriendly"09:37
BluesKajamarok is fine imo ...very good streaming09:37
=== Sakkath [i=sakkath@unaffiliated/sakkath] has joined #kubuntu
SakkathDoes kubuntu come with xgl too?09:37
titanix88llp78: u r really crazy to say that!09:37
BluesKajmp3 radio is all i need09:37
=== rainer_frey [n=rainerfr@p57B08F53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #kubuntu []
=== ArtMoonik [n=artmooni@mar92-3-82-66-233-126.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
llp78well -  the only way i can load albums is by drop and drag - i cant just select a directory/album for it to play from09:38
dsmithWhat exactly do I need to do to get Amarok to play mp3s?09:38
llp78there is no buttons for play/next track etc09:38
pauljwclick on the mp3 file, amarok should load and play09:38
=== tjansson-2 [n=tjansson@82.143.240.87] has joined #kubuntu
llp78pause - you hae to select them from the drop down09:39
BluesKajdsmith, find an mp3 , load it into amarok ...amarok will then DL and install the plugin with a few mopuse clicks09:39
=== ericj2190_ is now known as ericj2190
dsmithOk, I'll try it09:39
BluesKajmp3 plugin that is09:39
=== analfabeta [n=kessia@189.13.84.14] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88llp78:select files tab & do ur job. i love from library though.09:39
llutzllp78: you seem to have a different amarok than me09:40
=== analfabeta [n=kessia@189.13.84.14] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== superbear [n=matthias@dtmd-4db5d413.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== Eyeless [n=hjalle@d83-183-204-137.cust.tele2.se] has joined #kubuntu
llutzllp78: double.click on album in collection loads it into playlist, buttons are beneath that list or right-click on tray-icon09:41
=== andreamordini [n=andreamo@chello084114222114.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu
dsmithOk, I get a box that says "No mp3 support" but it seems to lock up the program when I click on the box09:41
andreamordinisalve a tutti. ho installato sia gnome sia kubuntu. come si fa a settare quello di default?09:41
BluesKajdsmith, when you clicked play ?09:42
llutz!it| andreamordini09:42
ubotuandreamordini: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:42
=== cathal_ is now known as cathal
dsmithis there a package I can download and install via Adept?09:42
titanix88hi hendaus :)09:42
llp78ok its not rocket science with amarok as other player like media player on vista etc09:43
andreamordinii'm sorry bye09:43
titanix88"llp78 there is no buttons for play/next track etc" s/he is really crazy!! :)09:43
llutzllp78: ah, you just want to play the troll tonight09:43
=== Lattyware_ [n=Latty@host86-141-179-250.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
llp78know i mean - i cant work it out09:43
llp78sorry for the confusing you09:43
llutzllp78: s/confusing/make me laughing/09:44
binks_my amarok doesnt even start up it hangs for a while then nothing09:44
binks_if i open in terminal i get no output hmm its broke09:44
=== _dennis_ [n=dennis@d54C2B01E.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu
=== andreamordini [n=andreamo@chello084114222114.15.vie.surfer.at] has joined #kubuntu
llp78llutz: sorry but - when i go to `files` its blank and i cant browse:09:45
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@20158045109.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ is now known as trakinas
llutzllp78: change the path or use" collection" if you configured it09:45
=== enigma [n=enigma@88.224.137.59] has joined #kubuntu
=== DJServers [n=serverpc@53573447.cable.casema.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88llutz:excuse me, but... i wanna be TROLL.Pls. ms. tell me how...!!! 0_009:46
=== artuditu [n=artuditu@ip-62-69-200-161.globalconnect.pl] has joined #kubuntu
llp78how do I use collection? again it is empty  and cannot browse09:46
llutzllp78: use the arrows on top or enter the path into the shown field09:46
llutzllp78: to navigate09:46
=== powr [n=powr@BSN-77-101-104.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88llp78: configured ur collection properly?09:47
=== simon__ [n=simon@teacheradsl248.eduhi.at] has joined #kubuntu
llutzllp78: enter config-menue -> collection and set up the path there09:48
=== principo [n=principo@pD9E5C4BB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== hara [n=hara@dsl-tregw2-feeedf00-132.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #kubuntu
llp78llutz: thanks so much - im no troll i was getting confused with the spilt screen - i now know how to load an album and thanks for your help - many thanks to you and  fuck you titanix8809:48
=== _StefanS_ [n=sfs@cpe.atm2-0-90156.0x5734b54a.naenxx14.customer.tele.dk] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
binks_llp78: not needed m809:49
llp78he was calling me a troll for NO reason::09:49
=== Cosmo__ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
llp78i just needed help that was all09:49
=== rodrigo [n=rodrigo@del63-2-82-247-214-132.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
binks_i agree but kids come in this chan09:49
=== simon__ [n=simon@teacheradsl248.eduhi.at] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
titanix88llp78: hey i was the one to tell about configureing collection...:)09:50
=== amara [n=amara@AGrenoble-152-1-27-241.w82-122.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu
llp78about what!09:50
=== sercik [n=sercik@host15-164-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== benutzer [n=benutzer@p508af9c0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88llp78: it was plain joke. Who knew u would mind? :)09:50
binks_llp78: just watch the language thats all i ask09:50
=== melinda [n=melinda@catv-5063e7a5.catv.broadband.hu] has joined #kubuntu
=== mesler [n=mesler@71-81-36-155.dhcp.slid.la.charter.com] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== lemps [n=lemps@213-35-213-214-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #kubuntu
llp78yea for sure - titanix88 just wound me up calling me a troll09:51
=== sercik [n=sercik@host15-164-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== sakabatou [n=sakabato@sb-217-129-120-240.netvisao.pt] has joined #kubuntu
llp78ok joke taken no offence:09:51
titanix88llp78: sorry then!! :)09:52
dsmithBluesKaj, the mp3 trick you told me, didnt work09:52
llp78thanks again for the help - i could not work out how to do it - thats what this chans here for -09:52
llp78titanix88: no worries09:52
=== jonasp [i=jonas@i59F7066F.versanet.de] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajyes dsmith i know ...looking for the answer09:53
dsmithOh, alright, thanks09:53
titanix88llp78: anyway AMAROK is great!!09:53
llutzllp78: strange way of asking for help, just to  devaluate a thing:)09:54
=== Cosmo__ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
dsmithbut I can play mp3s with Xmms09:54
binks_vlc is the best media player but jinzora is the best library09:55
=== hangthedj [n=root@Wheeler-pbdsl3.Stanford.EDU] has joined #kubuntu
llp78ok my comment was out of order, but its not user friendly imho09:55
=== glen_r [n=glen@d198-53-166-108.abhsia.telus.net] has joined #kubuntu
llutzllp78: "userfriendly" depends on the user :)09:55
llp78i ment as in how to do things09:56
llp78im a windows junkie09:56
binks_ok guys off topic now its kubuntu channel please leave it09:56
llp78and have been for 10 years09:56
titanix88llutz: me agree.09:56
=== dellilah [n=dellilah@217-211-191-208-no39.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== hangthedj [n=root@Wheeler-pbdsl3.Stanford.EDU] has joined #kubuntu
llp78i do aswell - now i know how to use it - but for me it was not obvious09:57
=== glen_r [n=glen@d198-53-166-108.abhsia.telus.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
llutzllp78: linux isn't windows09:57
llp78i know that - and linux is far better09:57
BluesKajdsmith, in the run command /usr/lib/amarok . click on install-mp309:57
llp78its just knowing how to use it to your advantage09:57
=== soulrider_ [n=mauro@r190-64-95-227.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy] has joined #kubuntu
=== Frost^ [n=sweiss@89-138-125-221.bb.netvision.net.il] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88BluesKaj dsmith maybe the distro version matters.09:59
=== teutonia [n=teutonia@p54BF5ABB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
dsmithhmmm09:59
BluesKajhehe , i don't have any mp3's to test it10:00
=== grxmrx [n=grxmrx@user12.112.udn.pl] has joined #kubuntu
dsmithI honestly dont know if there is much of the differences of 32bit vs 64bit,10:00
BluesKajdid you try the suggestion , dsmith10:00
BluesKaj?10:00
dsmithYes10:00
dsmithdidnt work10:00
titanix88dsmith : tried installing"libxine-extracodecs"?10:01
dsmithoh, I didnt know about that, I can try it quick10:01
=== emilsedgh [n=emilsedg@84.47.209.45] has joined #kubuntu
BluesKajit says in the tutorials, to go to the amarok director ...whatever that is10:01
dsmiththat made it work! thanks! Titanix8810:02
emilsedghhi people, I just want to say that my Konqueror is really buggy, even when I click on a File/Folder it crashs, and note that my upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04 is not completed, but whole kdebase is upgraded.10:03
titanix88dsmith: np :)10:03
=== hangthedj [n=crazyrob@Wheeler-pbdsl3.Stanford.EDU] has joined #kubuntu
=== hangthedj [n=crazyrob@Wheeler-pbdsl3.Stanford.EDU] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
=== arybel [n=arybel@80.249.74.185] has joined #kubuntu
=== paulj1 [n=paul@pool96.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #kubuntu
emilsedghim getting "konqueror: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkonq.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN11KIconEffect14visualActivateEP7QWidget5QRectP7QPixmap" error10:04
=== tmske [n=thomas@dD5763506.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88emilsedgh : konq is buggy by default :(10:04
dsmiththank you for trying BluesKaj10:04
=== hangthedj [n=crazyrob@Wheeler-pbdsl3.Stanford.EDU] has joined #kubuntu
jussi01gah, anyone had the problem of the home directory taking ages to access? mine currently takes 15-30 seconds to be able to access it... anyone got a solution?10:04
emilsedghtitanix88: as much that? I cannot open a file/folder!10:04
=== Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-235-211.googlewifi.com] has joined #kubuntu
jussi01emilsedgh: sounds like a theme prob....maybe10:05
=== OOD [n=OOD@dsl-150-176.aei.ca] has joined #kubuntu
emilsedghjussi01: im on Domino, let me change that and try10:05
=== mthead [n=marc@adsl-75-25-4-107.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== sepeck [n=sepeck@054.172-78-65.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88hey BluesKaj ,me & dr_willis seems most talkative around #kubuntu hah... :)10:06
=== tycho [n=tycho@216-160-49-251.mpls.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu
emilsedghjussi01: no success, i tried Keramik10:07
=== sabakas1 [n=solapus@66.90.121.129] has joined #kubuntu
=== simon__ [n=simon@teacheradsl248.eduhi.at] has joined #kubuntu
=== hyper__ch is now known as hyper_ch
=== v0taguz [n=votaguz@190.65.7.105] has joined #kubuntu
jussi01emilsedgh: Im not sue then sorry... have you tried googling the exact error?10:08
BluesKajglad you were able to help dsmith , titanix88 ... i was overlooking the obvious again  :)10:09
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
emilsedghjussi01: no, I think i will get no success, but i will try10:09
jussi01emilsedgh: often googling the exact error will come up with something on a forum or so...10:09
=== nick_ [n=nick@host16-84-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
emilsedghjussi01: no, nothing.i should upgrade my whole system and then see if things crash10:10
=== ubuntu_ [i=hotdam@dialup-4.254.156.8.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88BluesKaj: as u call urself semi-noob like myself u can have this handy: www.tldp.org10:10
jussi01emilsedgh: yeah, thats the best idea10:11
felzix_hey, what does "BUG: soft lockup detected on CPU#0!" mean?10:11
=== mthead [n=marc@adsl-75-25-4-107.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ is now known as Dougwiser
=== word [n=word@ip70-162-166-56.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
felzix_it appears to be lagging the computer insanely10:11
Dougwiserwow cool10:12
=== jussi01 is heading to bed...night all
=== arybel [n=arybel@80.249.74.185] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
=== mthead [n=mthead@adsl-75-25-4-107.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== nick_ is now known as Nitro
=== mthead is now known as mthead_
=== incorrect [n=fwest@cpc1-cmbg8-0-0-cust155.cmbg.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
felzix_great, now the laptop won't boot at all...10:14
=== mthead_ is now known as mthead
=== felzix_ is going to recommend a new computer
=== mthead is now known as mthead_
=== ejupin [n=ejupin@c-65-96-153-100.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-068.200.popsite.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== nosrednaekim [n=michael@03-068.200.popsite.net] has left #kubuntu []
=== skizzo [n=skizzo@83.216.178.79] has joined #kubuntu
=== mthead_ [n=marc@adsl-75-25-4-107.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
=== skizzo is now known as [_Sk|zZ_]
=== nuxil [n=nuxil@213.161.182.223] has joined #kubuntu
=== ary [n=ary@201-74-240-178-am.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #kubuntu
=== primatus2 [n=solapus@66.90.121.129] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88netsplit,netsplit,netsplit,NETSPLIT!!!!10:19
=== Cosmo_ [n=cosmo@12.39.164.181] has joined #kubuntu
eljefetitanix88: i know how to turn it on, thanks; I am wondering why it was turned off with this update10:22
=== primatus2 [n=solapus@66.90.121.129] has joined #kubuntu
=== [_Sk|zZ_] [n=skizzo@83.216.178.79] has joined #kubuntu
mthead_#ubuntu-laptop10:22
titanix88eljefe: no idea. BUT anyway u got it fixed,that's good.10:23
=== felipe [n=felipe@my.nada.kth.se] has joined #kubuntu
=== arttt [n=artiee@91-145-137-72-net.cnb.com.pl] has joined #kubuntu
eljefetitanix88: yep, thanks!10:23
arttthello10:23
=== sepeck [n=sepeck@054.172-78-65.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@adsl190-28-37-37.epm.net.co] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88arttt: hi!10:24
=== [_Sk|zZ_] [n=skizzo@83.216.178.79] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== bernd_ [n=bernd@62.216.164.184] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88eljefe:np :)10:24
ubuntu_hello10:24
=== ubuntu_ is now known as loserbp
=== allysan [n=allysan@24-241-233-134.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== nkoc [n=nkoc@p5082fead.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-235-211.googlewifi.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== nuno [n=nuno@217.129.211.180] has joined #kubuntu
allysanHey everyone, I just installed Kubuntu and the firefox, thunderbird, and gaim packages aren't in the Add/Remove programs list... can anyone help me get them?10:25
=== luisf [n=luisf@200.193.162.123] has joined #kubuntu
Admiral_Chicagoallysan: look in adept10:26
allysanlooked there also, no dice10:26
=== tommix [n=pgw64@a82-93-70-187.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88allysan: try adept.10:26
allysanI looked there, all i've got is the firefox english language package10:26
allysanwhich is a tad odd, i must say10:27
titanix88allysan 0_.10:27
allysanTrue story sir10:27
angasuleallysan: have you tried checking in the console? 'apt-cache search thunderbird'?10:27
allysan"Thunderbird English language/region package"10:28
allysanis all that comes up, ditto Firefox10:28
titanix88allysan what version (dapper or feisty)?10:28
allysanFeisty10:28
titanix88allysan can't help.10:30
=== wolpes [n=wolpes@host-84-222-132-51.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== tommix [n=pgw64@a82-93-70-187.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu
allysantitanix88: thanks anyways sir10:30
Admiral_Chicagosudo apt-get install firefox10:30
Admiral_Chicagothat should work...10:30
allysanTried that too10:30
allysanditto thunderbird10:31
allysanit said..10:31
Admiral_Chicagowhat is the output10:31
=== virusavirusa [n=virusa@host-88-210-210-93.adsl.caucasus.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== carlos [n=carlos@201-212-148-21.cab.prima.net.ar] has joined #kubuntu
=== nuuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== virusavirusa [n=virusa@host-88-210-210-93.adsl.caucasus.net] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== os2mac [n=jim@114-41-178-69.gci.net] has joined #kubuntu
allysan"package thunderbird (or firefox) is not available but is referred to by anohter package. This may mean that the package has been obsoleted or is only available from another source"10:32
allysanI also tried sudo apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird and mozilla-firefox10:32
titanix88allysan: try "sudo apt-get update" .10:32
=== tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has joined #kubuntu
Admiral_Chicagoallysan: what do your sources.list look like10:33
Admiral_Chicagopastebin them10:33
allysanone sec10:33
=== ary [n=ary@201-74-240-178-am.cpe.vivax.com.br] has joined #kubuntu
titanix8810:34
allysanwell look at that, apt-get update worked, thank you very much sir10:35
titanix88hey someone can paste a clear line here!!! that can be used as an vulnerability!!! :(or my dumb hacking mind :)10:35
=== tsdgeos [n=tsdgeos@kde/aacid] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
titanix88allysan i guess now u can install firefox etc?10:36
=== jontulley_ [n=jontulle@cpc2-clif2-0-0-cust310.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== nuu [i=neuro@host15-76.pool8251.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
allysantitanix88: Yes sir, really appreciate everyone's help10:36
Admiral_Chicagoeh titanix88 what?10:36
=== Dr_Willis [n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #kubuntu
allysanAdmiral_chicago: apt-get update worked, thank you10:37
Admiral_Chicagogood allysan10:37
titanix8810:37
titanix8810:37
titanix8810:37
titanix8810:37
titanix8810:37
titanix8810:37
titanix8810:37
titanix8810:37
Admiral_Chicagotitanix88: stop that10:37
titanix88see!!!10:37
Admiral_Chicagowhat amd i seeing?10:38
=== nick_ [n=nick@host16-84-dynamic.5-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== sabakas1 [n=solapus@66.90.121.129] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88Admiral_Chicago: i just discovered an irc vulnerability! :(noo, just kidding...:)10:39
=== jim [n=jim@114-41-178-69.gci.net] has joined #kubuntu
Dr_Willishmmmm10:39
titanix88Dr_Willis wb.10:39
Dr_WillisWent do da store.. made me some Spagattitittitititittiiiiieeee10:40
Dr_Willis:)10:40
=== wolpes [n=wolpes@host-84-222-137-56.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== luisf [n=luisf@200.193.162.123] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
Dr_Willisrestraining my self from a 2nd helping10:40
hattadoes anyone here use a TV as a 2nd X screen?10:40
Dr_Willishatta:  yes all the time10:41
=== sabakas1 [n=solapus@66.90.121.129] has joined #kubuntu
=== vit [n=vit@190.75.78.226] has joined #kubuntu
hattaI'm trying to find a video player that will display to :0.1 and has a queue10:41
hattacause if I rightclick on a bunch of files and open with mplayer, they all display to :0.1 but they all do it at the same time10:41
titanix88 :0.1 means?10:42
hattakaffeine handles multiple files properly, but it doesn't display to :0.110:42
hatta:0.1 is my second X screen10:42
hatta:0.0 is the first10:42
=== _soo [n=dac@tx-76-6-81-107.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88hatta: tried vlc?10:42
hattavlc doesn't want to enqueue them either10:43
hattait just opens them all at the same time10:43
=== rec53 [i=rec53@pip.srcf.societies.cam.ac.uk] has joined #kubuntu
=== Adlai [n=leif@user-64-9-235-211.googlewifi.com] has joined #kubuntu
MaTiAzVLC is really skippy for playing videos for me, Kaffeine plays the exact same videos absolutely fine10:43
=== dellilah is now known as Dellilah
titanix88hatta: u can bring a playlist with ctrl+P10:43
Dr_Willismplayer dosent do the playlist selectin that way I guess.10:43
Dr_Willisis the core of the problem10:43
hattaright, so I'm looking for an alternative10:44
hattabut nothing else wants to display to :0.110:44
Dr_Willisor use the proper playlist stuff. i guess10:44
Dr_WillisI mainly put MythTV frontend on the tv.10:44
hattahm, that might work10:44
=== djdarkman_ [n=djdarkma@fl-86-120-23-150.fiberlink.mures.rdsnet.ro] has joined #kubuntu
Dr_Willisi told mythtv to stay on the left side monitor (tv) aint messed with anythting else.10:44
hattanice10:45
Dr_Willisi am using nvidia + twinview10:45
titanix88hatta: maybe u need totem(although i don't believe it even in my dreams :)10:45
hattayeah that's what I do too10:45
hattadoes that work without a backend?10:46
Dr_WillisHmm.. Spybot serach and destroy just tagged my directory called 'warez' as a potential security risk :)10:46
titanix88hatta gstreamer.10:46
hattatitanix88, what about it?10:46
=== pavlo [n=pavlo@static-62-233-213-114.devs.futuro.pl] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88hatta it's(Totem) really simple & realllly stupid(it comes default with ubuntu)!!! I don't like it.10:47
=== pavlo [n=pavlo@static-62-233-213-114.devs.futuro.pl] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== arttt [n=artiee@91-145-137-72-net.cnb.com.pl] has left #kubuntu []
=== edu [n=edu@62.Red-81-41-104.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
hattayeah but I use kde10:48
=== richard [n=richard@vsat-148-64-173-86.c005.g4.mrt.starband.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88hatta but they say gstreamer is going to be the ultimate multimedia framework for free world.10:48
titanix88hatta i have kde,gnome & xfce. they don't conflict & also runs every app.10:49
hattahm, that's not so much to install I'll check it out10:49
hattayeah I just don't want too many libraries in memory at once10:50
=== edu [n=edu@62.Red-81-41-104.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
hattathat's when things really start to drag10:50
=== AutoMatriX [n=marcus@d83-182-245-172.cust.tele2.be] has joined #kubuntu
=== klingac [n=klingac@otava.koleje.cuni.cz] has joined #kubuntu
=== bleepbloop [n=bleepblo@ool-44c7f39d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== sabakas1 [n=solapus@66.90.121.129] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88hatta i got 256MB. what about u?Still afraid?10:51
=== edu [n=edu@62.Red-81-41-104.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
allysanI have one more question for you folks and it's a bit tougher... it seems I can't get the sound on my Lenovo R60e to work... I believe it is a drivers issue, but I'm not sure.  Anyone got any ideas?10:51
hilzVMWare on Feisty anyone?10:51
=== ine_druml [n=cobrien@ppp-69-237-3-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== jontulley__ [n=jontulle@cpc2-clif2-0-0-cust310.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
hilzWas anyone successful installing VMWare server on feisty ?10:52
=== angasule [n=angasule@190.49.199.30] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== vit_ [n=vit@201.208.189.50] has joined #kubuntu
hattahm I dont see any way to make totem display on :0.110:53
titanix88hatta i told u it's stupid.10:54
titanix88hatta: but there are 3 tv out options i see!!!10:56
fdovinghatta: in a terminal: 'DISPLAY=:0.1 totem'10:57
=== claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-59-132.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #kubuntu
Dr_Willisi use vmeare server under feisty10:58
=== sabakas1 [n=solapus@66.90.121.129] has joined #kubuntu
Dr_WillisI think there was some tweak i had to do.. but its been a while10:58
Dr_Willismay of been fixed by now10:58
titanix88hatta : btw u will have to install gstreamer-plugins-bad & gstreamer-plugins-ugly to get proprietary formats working.11:00
hattawhat's needed is a playlist daemon11:00
hattaso I can enqueue files to it, and have it launch mplayer as needed11:00
=== bleepbloop [n=bleepblo@ool-44c7f39d.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== august24 [n=august24@195.204.37.34] has joined #kubuntu
Dr_Willismost players are scriptable from the command line to do that i belive11:01
titanix88hatta maybe script it urself.11:01
Dr_Willisplayerwhatever -addtoque whatever11:01
hattaI tried mplayer -enqueue but it still opened a new instance for each file11:02
=== manolete [n=manolo@84.123.154.7.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== manolete [n=manolo@84.123.154.7.dyn.user.ono.com] has left #kubuntu ["Leaving"]
Dr_Willisread the docs some more i guess..  :() i dont use mplayer in that fashion much if ever11:02
titanix88btw mplayers developers r only concerned about supporting  all formats but not gui or usability.11:03
titanix88hatta write a script that kills any previous instance and open a new one.11:04
hattawell I'd want to queue it11:04
=== ehc [n=x@wall.pacinfo.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== _3v1n0_ is now known as Trevinho
=== ender [n=ender@c-75-74-11-166.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
hattathe best solution would be something like mpd for video files11:05
allysanDoes anyone know where I can get audio drivers for a Lenovo R60e11:06
titanix88damn M player i say(it shows files in /sm/sm mode to select >(11:06
=== OOD [n=OOD@dsl-150-176.aei.ca] has joined #kubuntu
=== sabakas1 [n=solapus@66.90.121.129] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88allysan try googling.11:07
allysanHave, it doesn't seem to be a common problem11:07
blekosis there a better alternative to picasa for linux?11:07
=== fogwar [n=cris@adsl-70-136-64-79.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88blekos no but worse are like digikam(kde) & fspot(gnome).11:08
blekosno, these are really bad. Especially if you like taking a lot of pics11:10
hattahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=4212211:10
hattaI think that might do what I want11:10
=== yeniklasor [n=yeniklas@85.96.4.98] has joined #kubuntu
blekosi think linux in that point...11:10
=== minty [n=minty@host86-144-151-230.range86-144.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== TheGateKeeper [n=gatekeep@82-36-115-224.cable.ubr03.king.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu
mintyhey uys tring to work beryl n it came up with this . . . cant find x libraries n e 1 care to explain11:11
titanix88anyone tried beagle desktop search? it's way too kool!11:12
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has joined #kubuntu
=== sakabatou [n=sakabato@sb-217-129-120-240.netvisao.pt] has joined #kubuntu
=== thierry_ [n=thierry@82.251.195.39] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88have anyone tried beagle desktp search? it's way too kool!!11:13
hattashit, kubuntu's vlc doesn't appear to have the --no-wxwin-embed option11:15
=== merhojt [n=Jimmy@h90n5c1o885.bredband.skanova.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== mantan [n=mantan@207-47-234-198.regn.hsdb.sasknet.sk.ca] has joined #kubuntu
mantanI have no sound. How do I change this?11:18
=== michael [n=michael@p5087327b.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== Danker [n=tadas@65.203.46.84.ip.erdves.lt] has joined #kubuntu
DankerHi11:18
=== fukc [n=fukc@host33-242-dynamic.7-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
=== ubuntu_ [i=hotdam@dialup-4.235.191.97.Dial1.Orlando1.Level3.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== criminal [n=criminal@host212-156-dynamic.6-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
mantanI have no sound. How do I change this?11:19
DankerCan you suggest good screen/window recording/capturing software on linux? :)11:19
titanix88bye everyone.11:19
titanix88Danker istanbul ofcourse11:19
=== richard_ [n=richard@vsat-148-64-173-86.c005.g4.mrt.starband.net] has joined #kubuntu
titanix88bye everyone.11:20
=== titanix88 [n=tux@203.112.223.66] has left #kubuntu ["Konversation]
=== alexey [n=alexey@213.227.230.15] has joined #kubuntu
=== monotropos [n=monotrop@ppp238-130.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #kubuntu
=== Kite_DH [n=Kite_DH@p57B350B9.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
llutzDanker: recordmydesktop or wink11:21
Dankerthanks ;)11:21
=== gemidjy [n=gemidjy@62.162.67.50] has joined #kubuntu
DankerI'll search ir repositories ;)11:21
=== virusavirusa [n=virusa@host-88-210-210-93.adsl.caucasus.net] has joined #kubuntu
llutzDanker: wink isn't in11:21
=== frojnd [n=wildchil@BSN-77-169-220.static.dsl.siol.net] has joined #kubuntu
alexeyHello all :) Is there any document describing how to update (K)ubuntu with no internet connection?11:22
=== palolo^ [n=paolo@host22-80.pool8252.interbusiness.it] has joined #kubuntu
mantanmy sound isn't working, anyone know how to go about getting it working?11:22
alexeymantan: what soundcard do you have?11:23
=== dr_willis [n=willis@74-140-6-108.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #Kubuntu
=== buzzmandt [n=buzzmand@c-68-34-198-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
mantandunno, how do I check?11:24
alexeymantan: let me think of it a little...11:24
_4strOmantan: lspci11:24
mantanwhat is Ispci?11:25
_4strOmantan: type in a console : lspci | grep audio11:25
virusavirusa:)11:25
alexeymantan: lspci | grep audio11:25
BluesKajmantan, this is good tutorial will get everything working for you : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)11:25
virusavirusalspci shows pci devices installed on ur computer11:25
=== mardeg [n=mardeg@d51526EBF.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu
=== buzzmandt [n=buzzmand@c-68-34-198-146.hsd1.tn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
alexey2 all: Is there any document describing how to update (K)ubuntu with no internet connection?11:26
_4strO!upgrade11:26
ubotuSee https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)11:26
mantan00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Aud11:27
mantanio Controller (rev 02)11:27
=== jahshan [n=jahshan@72.29.211.18] has joined #kubuntu
_4strOmantan: sis you verify sound is active in kmix ?11:29
=== Black5un [i=mr@cpe-71-79-229-244.woh.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu
_4strOdid*11:29
=== ignazio [n=ignazio@host-84-223-13-82.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu
mantanand where do I check in kmix?11:30
alexeymantan: did you try to adjust volume via it's control in the rigth bottom screen corner ?11:31
greg_gmantan: offtopic: what is the origin of your handle?11:31
_4strOthe green led on master and PCM11:31
_4strOand the volume11:31
=== arafat [n=arafat@ppp-62-245-209-88.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #kubuntu
=== dracma12 [n=dracma12@52-89-112.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #kubuntu
=== red__ [n=red@203-97-233-196.cable.telstraclear.net] has joined #kubuntu
mantanyes11:32
alexeymantan: do you see bright-green (nt dark-green) leds near Master and PCM volume controls?11:32
mantangreg_g: origin of what?11:32
mantanyes11:32
=== hoora_ [i=ariel@gateway/tor/x-8b76040c6a5b4ef3] has joined #kubuntu
greg_gmantan: offtopic: I ask because I just watched Spike Lee's Banboozle, where a main character changed his name to that, in reference to this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantan_Moreland11:33
=== TheInfinity [n=TheInfin@p508F18DB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
greg_gmantan: "handle" is a word for "other persona" in this case an "online persona"11:33
alexeymantan: did you try to increase volume with Master and PCM volume controls?11:33
dr_willisLinux-tan :)11:34
mantangreg_g: Chances are, that's where the name came from because I got it from a song by K-os11:34
dr_willisand here i was thinking he was Just a tan person.11:34
BluesKajgreg_g, we're trying to help mantan with his sound probs ...lets stay with the subject at hand11:34
=== fogwar [n=cris@adsl-70-136-64-79.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
greg_gBluesKaj: touche11:34
=== cees [n=cees@e234099.upc-e.chello.nl] has joined #kubuntu
mantanAlexey:yes11:34
=== elkark0ma [n=elkark0m@19.Red-83-42-219.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu
elkark0mahola a todos11:34
_4strOyop11:35
greg_gsorry for the offtopic, it is just that the movie was powerful, so yeah, been on the mind all day... but back to the issue11:35
=== sleepzero [n=sleepzer@bl6-122-153.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #kubuntu
alexeymantan: Ok... Did the sound work before (for example, in other OS)?11:36
=== Zackson [n=zion@200.82.222.99] has joined #kubuntu
=== allysan [n=allysan@24-241-233-134.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
mantanIt works just fine inXP11:37
_4strOmantan: then look in K / system settings / sound system / hardware11:37
mantanwhat am I looking for in specific?11:37
mantanin there11:38
_4strOaudio peripheral is on automatic choice ?11:38
_4strOmantan: with wich type of audio file are you trying your sound ?11:39
=== ashley_ [n=ashley@wbs-41-208-201-5.wbs.co.za] has joined #kubuntu
mantanFlash, but it won'11:39
_4strO...11:40
mantanFlash, but it won't work with other things either11:40
allysanI'm having the same problem as Mantan11:40
_4strOtry to test with the option in the K / system settings / sound system /  general page11:40
allysanno sound11:40
allysanI tried this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33247211:40
mantanI'm not getting anything from it11:41
allysanbut it did not work11:41
=== Smooph [n=Smooph@p54a76f25.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #kubuntu ["Kopete]
hattaah so close.. kubuntu's vlc lacks the option --playlist-enqueue11:41
dr_willisheh odd.11:41
allysanNobody knows huh?11:41
=== allysan is now known as Allysan
=== jontulley_ [n=jontulle@cpc2-clif2-0-0-cust310.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
alexeydid pressing Test Sound button give any sound?11:42
mantanno11:42
=== Solifugus [n=matthew@w161188.wireless.fsr.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== Adlai [n=adlaiff6@user-64-9-235-211.googlewifi.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== yo [n=yo@vil69-1-82-67-50-5.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu
yoBonsoir tout le modne11:43
_4strOyop11:43
yoil faut parler franais ou anglais ?11:43
=== pirateking_ [n=pirateki@ppp-70-225-164-114.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu
yo=)11:43
_4strOanglais :p11:43
BluesKajmantan , try 'alsamixer' in the terminal and unmute any sliders by pressing 'M'11:43
yook sir :)11:43
yoi want to install my sound card on Kubuntu11:44
_4strOlool11:44
alexeymantan: try to do this: select Sound devise: alsa on the secont tab11:44
=== dsmith [n=dsmith@c-24-118-233-101.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
yoi don't know how to do this :(11:44
yoalsa ?11:44
alexeymantan: try to do this: then press Allpy11:44
=== Zackson [n=zion@200.82.222.99] has joined #kubuntu
=== greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== icf7 [n=chatzill@PPPOE-05-0105.UNI-MUENSTER.DE] has joined #kubuntu
mantanone of the bars in alsamixer was off, I'm going to try and play summat with it on11:45
=== crackanimal [n=crackani@cp773-a.dbsch1.nb.home.nl] has joined #kubuntu
=== avalon [n=avalon@adsl-074-229-152-198.sip.lft.bellsouth.net] has joined #kubuntu
mantannope, still not working with the change11:46
AllysanWhen you select ALSA under "select device" in the Sound System, should you have anything else checked?11:47
yoand me ?11:47
avalonIs there a way I can PERMANENTLY delete a file? Every time I try deleting a file from my harddrive, it moves it to a hidden folder called trash.root or trash.1 and I can't delete it11:47
yohow can i know what is the brand of my sound card ?11:47
=== skank [n=skank@pD9ED6557.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #kubuntu
yoi have a tx 1020 ea HP11:47
=== benjamin [n=benjamin@adsl-89-217-48-166.adslplus.ch] has joined #kubuntu
AllysanCheck your device manager, yo11:47
_4strOavalon: shift + suppr11:47
yooki11:47
dr_willisavalon:  shift click, or somthing like that..11:47
yothx11:47
trakinasyo: lspci11:47
yo?11:47
dr_willisor clean out the trash :)11:48
=== fogwar [n=cris@adsl-70-136-64-79.dsl.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net] has joined #kubuntu
trakinasyo: nevemind. lspci is a command line to check your devices.11:48
yoah ok =)11:48
_4strOyo: lspci | grep audio11:48
yoit's the thirst time i use linux, i am a windowsian =)11:48
yoand whaouuu it's good :)11:49
=== jzilla [n=jzilla@ip70-180-136-191.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #kubuntu
alexeymantan: please tell what says: dmesg | grep alsa11:49
Allysanalexey: after we select ALSA in Sound System, should anything else be checked?11:49
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@75-161-24-126.albq.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu
mantanalexey: what?11:49
yoeheh a=I have a lot of things but not audio line :(11:49
_4strOyo: lspci | grep audio11:50
yoYES !11:50
yo00:10.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)11:50
jzillahello all - im am currently using opensuse10.2 and I was just looking for some feedback on switching to kubuntu.... like... is it worth it?11:50
=== ubuntu_ is now known as Seeker842
BluesKajjzilla, YES!11:50
yolspci | grep -i audio ;)11:51
alexeyAllysan: no, just press Apply11:51
trakinaswell... im kind of having troubles with my dvd device on kubuntu.... ?(11:51
icf7jzilla: You may want to get an /independent/ opionion in #opensuse ;)11:51
AllysanYes, it's wonderful, except I can't seem to make sound work11:51
=== ste [n=ste@host192-39-dynamic.10-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
yoso with that, i do what !, :)11:51
trakinas*:(11:51
=== sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #kubuntu
jzillawell i figured ppl here would be pro switcing ;o11:51
trakinasyo: look for your ALSA module for it.11:51
alexeymantan: please type in console: dmesg | grep alsa11:51
BluesKajI used suse10 .1 ....the yast thing was broken all the time , the repos in kubuntu are very stable11:51
mantanit's being really slow about restarting my sound11:51
mantanalexey: I did and nothing happend11:51
=== xanatoscraven [n=azrael@70-101-112-102.dsl1-field.roc.ny.frontiernet.net] has joined #kubuntu
mantantyping just dmesg works though11:52
yotrakinas : how !,11:52
jzillaif suse uses yast, what would be the equiv in kubuntu?11:52
yowhat is ALSA =)11:52
AllysanALSA is Advanced Linux Sound Architecture11:52
yookiii11:52
llutzjzilla: there is nothing equiv11:52
yoand where I can found it ?11:52
alexeymantan: that could be a problem with newest sound card built-in into your PC motherboard11:53
Allysanmantan: mine is being slow too11:53
alexeymantan: I mean - a problem with integrated sound card11:53
_4strOllutz: konqueror settings:/ :p11:53
felzix_google toolbar bookmarks aren't working for FF.  It just says "Downloading Bookmarks..."11:54
llutzjzilla: which doesn't mean, that anybody misses something like yast :)11:54
=== Seeker842 [n=ubuntu@75-161-24-126.albq.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu
yowhere i can found Alsa ? :)11:54
trakinas!alsa11:54
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP311:54
xanatoscravenwtf... why does the yast screenshot on wikipedia have a pineapple icon @.@11:54
jzillallutz: how are packages managed then?11:55
trakinasyo: you probably only need the module (driver). just look for it on the repository11:55
=== greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
llutzjzilla: apt-get or some tools using it (adebt, synaptic etc.)11:55
jzillafrom the term?11:55
yolol where is the "repository" explain :)11:55
=== pauljw [n=paul@pool96.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #kubuntu
yoi understand nothing lol11:56
llutzjzilla: console or gui, what you like11:56
jzillahaha sold11:56
jzillai love using the console11:56
youbotu : ok the option was checked :)11:56
=== forge2k [n=mark@c-24-147-31-197.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
llutzjzilla: you know apt4rpm?11:56
jzillai do not11:56
alexeymantan: tell the result for this Help page : /etc/ppp/chap-secrets11:56
trakinasyo: well... open adpet on K -> System11:56
llutzjzilla: ok, thats a similar thing for rpm-based distros (like suse)11:56
alexeymantan: tell the result for this Help page : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting11:56
alexeymantan: /etc/ppp/chap-secrets - that was a typo11:57
=== fladd [n=fladd@dslc-082-082-184-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #kubuntu
greg_gok, ontopic question: how do I change to kdm from gdm.  I tried changing the file /etc/X11/default-display-manager to point to /usr/bin/kdm but after a cntrl-alt-backspace, still gdm11:58
yotrakinas : yes okiii and after :)11:58
=== Seeker842 [n=ubuntu@75-161-24-126.albq.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== AciD [n=gni@tehpwnz.org] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisgreg_g:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm11:59
greg_gthanks11:59
=== pauljw [n=paul@pool96.dial1-clec.newalb.win.net] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisi think thats right. :)11:59
=== drblood [n=drblood@pool-70-20-26-148.bstnma.fios.verizon.net] has joined #kubuntu
greg_git asked me to select which one I want, selected kdm (was already highlighted)11:59
trakinasyo: nvidia alsa or smth like that11:59
greg_ggoing to restart x11:59
yoyes thx i'm looking for12:00
yono nvidia alsa12:00
=== greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
trakinasso, only alsa modules12:00
yoyes but i have a lot of module alsa :)12:00
trakinashehe! one sec12:01
yo=)12:01
greg_gdr_willis: didn't work12:01
greg_gI am confused12:01
=== guest_ [n=guest@host16-201-static.25-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #kubuntu
dr_willisgreg_g:  you may of confused it by your earelier tweaking12:01
dr_willisgreg_g:  select gdm, then  go back and select kdm perhaps12:01
trakinasyo: btw, have you tried running alsaconf12:02
yobtw ?12:03
yoalsaconf12:03
yono i tried nothing :)12:03
trakinasyo: by the way12:04
trakinasyo: so, open konsole and type? sudo alsaconf12:04
yowhat is a konsole ?12:04
yoi'm joking ;)12:04
=== jontulley_ [n=jontulle@cpc2-clif2-0-0-cust310.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== ringlej [n=ringlej@c-71-62-243-179.hsd1.va.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
greg_gdr_willis: should I do a dpkg-reconfigure gdm maybe?12:05
yoroot@huemul:~# sudo alsaconf12:05
yosudo: alsaconf: command not found12:05
yo:(12:05
trakinasyo: so, open konsole and type? sudo alsa*tab*12:05
=== allysan [n=allysan@24-241-233-134.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
trakinasheehhehhe12:05
allysanAck12:05
allysanI somehow managed to delete my soundcard12:05
allysanand there isn't a way to enable it in the BIOS12:05
allysanhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=33247212:06
allysandon't do that ^12:06
trakinasweiiiiiird. no alsaconf and i have sound. lol12:06
=== Lattyware [n=Latty@host86-141-179-250.range86-141.btcentralplus.com] has joined #kubuntu
yoi tried to type alsa + tab but nothing :( sudo als it's  equal :(12:06
=== thefirstdude [n=thefirst@75-163-28-128.dlth.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu
=== zarate [n=zarate@189.151.17.67] has joined #kubuntu
yo:)12:06
zaratehey hola12:07
trakinasyo: dude, right now, Im kind of out of sugestions. i will reboot my machine in anyway - since im trying to fix my grub menu....12:07
dr_willisgreg_g:  it should print up the exact same dialog/interface12:07
zaratehelp me with beryl12:07
greg_gdr_willis: yeah, figured, just making sure there wasn't something other different about them12:07
dr_willis!beryl12:07
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects12:07
yotrakina ok thanks12:07
=== benjamin [n=benjamin@adsl-89-217-48-166.adslplus.ch] has joined #kubuntu
yowhere can i find a solution ?12:07
trakinasyo: well, you just need to read smth about installing soundcards. usually, they are automatically installed.12:09
trakinasyo: try looking for alsoutils on adpet12:09
trakinasor alsaconf.12:09
=== greg_g [n=greg@c-75-72-154-21.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu
yoyes okiii12:09
BluesKajyo , type alsamixer ...then check the sliders and unmute them with the letter M12:09
=== bones [n=bones@24-113-51-184.wavecable.com] has joined #kubuntu
=== DinK[UK] [n=DinK@cpc2-clif3-0-0-cust121.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #kubuntu
yothanks a lot, it's very nice :)12:10
trakinasyou are welcome12:10
BluesKajopen slider = 0012:10
=== ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@p54a406a9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu
yo! i type alsamixer and i have a space thing :)12:10
mantanhttp://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+HD-audio+and+modem.&chip=ICH6%2C+ICH6M%2C+ICH7%2C+ESB2&module=hda-intel12:10
ubuntu_yeah12:11
mantanI am having problems with that12:11
BluesKajin the terminal ...use the arrow keys to move the highlight around12:11
ubuntu_i managed to set a working internet connection12:11
=== bones [n=bones@24-113-51-184.wavecable.com] has left #kubuntu []
BluesKajubuntu_, congrats12:12
mantanbecause the alsa directory already exists, but it won't find it12:12
yowhat is the slider ?12:12
yobecause i use my arrow keys12:12
yobut after :/12:13
BluesKajyo : try this tutorial , it works very well : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dolby_Digital_Out_(AC3,_SPDIF)12:14
=== __Chris [n=chris@71-215-46-157.omah.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu
yoyes very good thx12:14
=== allysan [n=allysan@24-241-233-134.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com] has joined #kubuntu
benjaminhi, is someone using inkscape on kubuntu 7.04?12:14

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!