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leonelgreat 12:11
gejryou're getting tired of my questions aren't you?;)12:12
hadsYou won't regret trying Python :)12:12
gejrI'm sure I won't, as soon as I manage to configure it. But it requires a handler in a different way than PHP obviously. Isn't it weird that my apache.conf has nothing with php in it, and that php still works?12:13
hadsIt's in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5 12:13
hadsOr thereabouts 12:14
gejrso is mod_python.load on my system ;o12:14
leonel<gejr> you're getting tired of my questions aren't you?;)  <-- I'm not   just to know  how much python programming experience you have12:14
gejrleonel: ok..:)12:14
hadsMaybe CGI would be easier to setup?12:14
gejrIsn't that what I'm trying to do?:D12:15
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leonelphp handles  all the php scripts  in all your  HTDOCS  12:20
gejras i want python to do too :)12:20
leonelmod python  goes for  directories  using  handlers      12:20
leonelor  the publisher12:20
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gejrso when the webserver gets a request from one of it's .py files it first contacts the handler. Which is defined as mptest in my apache.conf, which tells the webserver that it's to be handled by /usr/bin/python?12:23
gejrhttp://www.geirola.net/hest.png12:28
gejrthis is what i've got so far..12:28
leonelmove your    .py   out of the apache  HTDOCS12:29
gejrjust realized i had that error12:29
gejroh..not that error12:30
gejrbut ok12:30
gejrso move mptest.py to something like /etc/python ?12:30
leonelput that  mptest to another dir as i told you  and add that yo your sys.path12:30
gejri did a import sys; sys.path.append("/etc/python")12:31
gejrnow it's in the sys.path list12:31
gejrand mptest.py is in /etc/python12:31
leonelbut not in your  mod-python's  sys.path12:32
leonelthat's why you need to put that in your apache config12:32
gejrprobably not..:o12:32
gejrlike..<Directory /etc/python> ?12:32
gejroh..you mean PythonPath "sys.path + /etc/python/" ?12:33
leonelwhat  <Directory /etc/python>    does ?12:33
gejrlook at http://www.geirola.net/hest.png now12:36
gejryou see the error i get in my browser window as well there12:36
gejrok..now i'm a step further12:56
gejrit's now showing "hello world!" with whatever .py file i throw at it12:57
gejrso it has obviously reached mptest.py12:57
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pirrohhi01:25
pirrohI was wondering if there's a way to update from dapper minimal to feisty server01:26
pirrohinstalling all the packages provided by a fresh feisty install01:26
pirroh(dapper footprint on hdd is 250mb... feisty fresh install is 500mb)01:26
pirrohso I guess there are more default packages on the server install01:26
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hadsI think the official path is through Edgy first, but a dist-upgrade may work.01:27
pirrohare there grouped in some metapackages maybe?01:27
Shane-Sis SSH enabled by default on 6.10?01:27
pirrohShane: iirc, no01:27
pirrohhads: no problem for me going through edgy01:27
pirrohI was wondering if there's a way to include all the packages :)01:28
Shane-Swhat is the package name I tried apt-get install SSH, doesn't like that package name01:28
pirrohaptitude search ssh01:28
Shane-Sohh apt is short for aptitude :P01:28
hadspirroh: Not sure sorry. Do you really need them if you don't now? :)01:29
Shane-Snm, I have used that before :D thanks01:29
pirrohno, they're different programs with similar functionalities01:29
pirrohhads: yep, good question... the truth is that I bought a vps, and I can't use an iso image... I like to have fresh installs... I know it's not a big deal ;)01:30
hadspirroh: I've always just changed the release name in sources.list and done a dist-upgrade - maybe I've been lucky but I've never had any issues.01:31
pirrohhads: yep, it will work, of that I'm sure. I was simply wondering what are the defaults of the server install.... and why they're different from the minimal setup ;)01:32
hadspirroh: Sorry, can't be of much help there :)01:32
pirrohhads: np, tnx anyway ;)01:36
Shane-Spirroh...you could have told me it is ssh not SSH :P01:38
Shane-Smy fault for being a dummy with the case though :D01:38
hadspirroh: I was just browsing through the package list and can't see any obvious meta packages01:39
Shane-Sall installed and happy now, thanks01:39
hadsShane-S: Everything is lower.01:39
pirrohShane-S: the next time you'll surely remember ;)01:40
pirrohhads: tnx for the check01:40
Shane-Si have worked with enough I should have known....just being normal brain dead self01:40
pirrohmaybe the only manual change i've got to do is the kernel image01:41
pirrohswitching to a server kernel image01:41
Shane-Sanyone here have experience with LTSP on Ubuntu? I want to know if it is better then the Fedora LTSP projects, like K12LTSP01:41
Shane-SI am not very familiar with LTSP, just curious which would work better and faster01:42
BurgundaviaShane-S: yes01:46
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BurgundaviaShane-S: k12ltsp is ltsp 4.2. Ubuntu's is ltsp 5, which is newer, has more features and is better designed01:47
Shane-SBurgundavia: I have never set one up from scratch, and I am not familiar with the desktop, how do you customize it for each user?01:48
Burgundaviacustomize a desktop for each user?01:48
Burgundaviafor that you need Sabayon01:48
Shane-Slike push a new icon/application for all the "users" to see when they log into the server via a TC01:49
Burgundavialtsp is merely a method of getting on OS onto a machine, not a method of controlling what users see01:49
Burgundaviafor the application, that is easy01:49
Burgundaviajust install it on the server01:49
Burgundaviafor an icon or a per-user setting you need sabayon01:49
Shane-Sahh ok01:50
Shane-SI guess when I think of the terminal server I am envisioning the entire process, not just the OS loading...because I do know that DHCP tell the client how to handle PXE or Boottp requests, as per the K12 docs01:51
Burgundaviaright01:52
Burgundaviak12ltsp has a bunch of hacks for controlling users desktop01:52
Shane-Snever really had a push to use it, but I am working in a small school this coming year, and thin clienting may be their best solution with little $01:52
Burgundaviafor ubuntu's ltsp, for policy you use sabayon and for realtime control use thin-client-manager01:53
Shane-Sahh ok01:53
Burgundaviaif you going for a school, I would use edubuntu01:53
Burgundaviatry #edubuntu01:54
Shane-Syeah, have to check that package out01:54
Burgundaviaedubuntu is not a package01:54
Burgundaviait is partner project of ubuntu01:54
Shane-SI only know a bit about Fedora and Ubuntu atm, but the K12 guy customized his package pretty well for a school01:54
Burgundavialike I said, k12 has some nasty hacks to make it work01:55
Shane-Ssorry should say "offering" I guess, not meaning like a software package :D01:55
Burgundaviaright01:55
BurgundaviaI would download Edubuntu and try it out01:55
Burgundaviaprobably the easiest way to get going01:56
Shane-Salright thanks01:56
Burgundaviaand hang out in #edubuntu01:56
Burgundaviathere are good people there01:56
pirrohdo-release-upgrade is one of the coolest thing of edgy :P02:16
hadsNice, didn't know that existed.02:22
pirrohhads: I preferred a dapper-edgy-feisty path02:24
pirrohthan dapper-feisty... too dangerous ;)02:24
Burgundaviadapper feisty is not supported02:26
pirrohBurgundavia: if I s/dapper/feisty/g in sources.list ... dist-upgrade won't work?02:26
Burgundaviait might, but I wouldn't do it02:27
pirrohI think no one can stops you if you wanna try this kind of suicide02:27
pirrohme neither02:27
pirrohgoodnight02:39
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Rescue9I'm back... more questions. :-P04:18
Rescue9Searched google... can't find answer. Hope you guys can help. I need to select os on next boot, so I can boot into various distro's from a shell without monitor or keyboard. I knew it was possible in gnome a while ago, but haven't found out how to do this from console.04:18
Rescue9Ok guys... wakeup again already. :-P04:19
BurgundaviaI have no idea04:27
Rescue9ROFL.04:28
Rescue9No worries... I think I found my answer in ##linux04:28
Rescue9bbl04:31
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pauliukasHeya everybody.06:27
pauliukasAnyone wanna help out a desperate guy?06:27
Burgundaviawhat is your issue?06:40
pauliukasTrying to mount a firewire drive.06:40
pauliukasIs there any special procedure that I should follow?06:40
Burgundaviaright06:40
pauliukasGo on.06:42
pauliukasOn the desktop version of Ubuntu, it just mounts fine.06:42
Burgundaviaright06:42
Burgundaviagenerally, figure out what device it is and use mount to moutn it06:44
pauliukasI know. That's what I usually do.06:44
pauliukasDmesg gives this: http://pastebin.ca/53244606:44
Burgundaviahmm06:46
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Wookstahey kr8, u around bud? :)02:20
Wookstamy ubuntu fiesty fawn server keeps resetting just after it gets past grub (i get a "Startup up..." message and then the system resets).. I have tried re-isntalling several times & have also tried other distros which don't seem to have this problem, can anyone help save my fawn? :<02:22
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Neopathhi guys.. hey I'd like to get a "beep" from my pc speaker when my server is done booting.... any references or ideas?02:59
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Shane-Swhere can I check to see why WinSCP3 keeps getting a connection reset by peer error. I am trying to connect to my Virtual Machine Ubuntu Server, it may be virtual machine itself, but I want to make sure04:22
Shane-SI guess to simply it, is there a SSH error log? I would assume in /var/log/?04:23
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ScuniziFor someone to watch a video that is stored on a LAN server from the WAN side, do I need to setup a streaming server? and or FTP server so it can be downloaded directly from the page?  It currently times out.08:10
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