[12:11] <leonel> great 
[12:12] <gejr> you're getting tired of my questions aren't you?;)
[12:12] <hads> You won't regret trying Python :)
[12:13] <gejr> I'm sure I won't, as soon as I manage to configure it. But it requires a handler in a different way than PHP obviously. Isn't it weird that my apache.conf has nothing with php in it, and that php still works?
[12:13] <hads> It's in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5 
[12:14] <hads> Or thereabouts 
[12:14] <gejr> so is mod_python.load on my system ;o
 you're getting tired of my questions aren't you?;)  <-- I'm not   just to know  how much python programming experience you have
[12:14] <gejr> leonel: ok..:)
[12:14] <hads> Maybe CGI would be easier to setup?
[12:15] <gejr> Isn't that what I'm trying to do?:D
[12:20] <leonel> php handles  all the php scripts  in all your  HTDOCS  
[12:20] <gejr> as i want python to do too :)
[12:20] <leonel> mod python  goes for  directories  using  handlers      
[12:20] <leonel> or  the publisher
[12:23] <gejr> so when the webserver gets a request from one of it's .py files it first contacts the handler. Which is defined as mptest in my apache.conf, which tells the webserver that it's to be handled by /usr/bin/python?
[12:28] <gejr> http://www.geirola.net/hest.png
[12:28] <gejr> this is what i've got so far..
[12:29] <leonel> move your    .py   out of the apache  HTDOCS
[12:29] <gejr> just realized i had that error
[12:30] <gejr> oh..not that error
[12:30] <gejr> but ok
[12:30] <gejr> so move mptest.py to something like /etc/python ?
[12:30] <leonel> put that  mptest to another dir as i told you  and add that yo your sys.path
[12:31] <gejr> i did a import sys; sys.path.append("/etc/python")
[12:31] <gejr> now it's in the sys.path list
[12:31] <gejr> and mptest.py is in /etc/python
[12:32] <leonel> but not in your  mod-python's  sys.path
[12:32] <leonel> that's why you need to put that in your apache config
[12:32] <gejr> probably not..:o
[12:32] <gejr> like..<Directory /etc/python> ?
[12:33] <gejr> oh..you mean PythonPath "sys.path + /etc/python/" ?
[12:33] <leonel> what  <Directory /etc/python>    does ?
[12:36] <gejr> look at http://www.geirola.net/hest.png now
[12:36] <gejr> you see the error i get in my browser window as well there
[12:56] <gejr> ok..now i'm a step further
[12:57] <gejr> it's now showing "hello world!" with whatever .py file i throw at it
[12:57] <gejr> so it has obviously reached mptest.py
[01:25] <pirroh> hi
[01:26] <pirroh> I was wondering if there's a way to update from dapper minimal to feisty server
[01:26] <pirroh> installing all the packages provided by a fresh feisty install
[01:26] <pirroh> (dapper footprint on hdd is 250mb... feisty fresh install is 500mb)
[01:26] <pirroh> so I guess there are more default packages on the server install
[01:27] <hads> I think the official path is through Edgy first, but a dist-upgrade may work.
[01:27] <pirroh> are there grouped in some metapackages maybe?
[01:27] <Shane-S> is SSH enabled by default on 6.10?
[01:27] <pirroh> Shane: iirc, no
[01:27] <pirroh> hads: no problem for me going through edgy
[01:28] <pirroh> I was wondering if there's a way to include all the packages :)
[01:28] <Shane-S> what is the package name I tried apt-get install SSH, doesn't like that package name
[01:28] <pirroh> aptitude search ssh
[01:28] <Shane-S> ohh apt is short for aptitude :P
[01:29] <hads> pirroh: Not sure sorry. Do you really need them if you don't now? :)
[01:29] <Shane-S> nm, I have used that before :D thanks
[01:29] <pirroh> no, they're different programs with similar functionalities
[01:30] <pirroh> hads: yep, good question... the truth is that I bought a vps, and I can't use an iso image... I like to have fresh installs... I know it's not a big deal ;)
[01:31] <hads> pirroh: I've always just changed the release name in sources.list and done a dist-upgrade - maybe I've been lucky but I've never had any issues.
[01:32] <pirroh> hads: yep, it will work, of that I'm sure. I was simply wondering what are the defaults of the server install.... and why they're different from the minimal setup ;)
[01:32] <hads> pirroh: Sorry, can't be of much help there :)
[01:36] <pirroh> hads: np, tnx anyway ;)
[01:38] <Shane-S> pirroh...you could have told me it is ssh not SSH :P
[01:38] <Shane-S> my fault for being a dummy with the case though :D
[01:39] <hads> pirroh: I was just browsing through the package list and can't see any obvious meta packages
[01:39] <Shane-S> all installed and happy now, thanks
[01:39] <hads> Shane-S: Everything is lower.
[01:40] <pirroh> Shane-S: the next time you'll surely remember ;)
[01:40] <pirroh> hads: tnx for the check
[01:40] <Shane-S> i have worked with enough I should have known....just being normal brain dead self
[01:41] <pirroh> maybe the only manual change i've got to do is the kernel image
[01:41] <pirroh> switching to a server kernel image
[01:41] <Shane-S> anyone here have experience with LTSP on Ubuntu? I want to know if it is better then the Fedora LTSP projects, like K12LTSP
[01:42] <Shane-S> I am not very familiar with LTSP, just curious which would work better and faster
[01:46] <Burgundavia> Shane-S: yes
[01:47] <Burgundavia> Shane-S: k12ltsp is ltsp 4.2. Ubuntu's is ltsp 5, which is newer, has more features and is better designed
[01:48] <Shane-S> Burgundavia: I have never set one up from scratch, and I am not familiar with the desktop, how do you customize it for each user?
[01:48] <Burgundavia> customize a desktop for each user?
[01:48] <Burgundavia> for that you need Sabayon
[01:49] <Shane-S> like push a new icon/application for all the "users" to see when they log into the server via a TC
[01:49] <Burgundavia> ltsp is merely a method of getting on OS onto a machine, not a method of controlling what users see
[01:49] <Burgundavia> for the application, that is easy
[01:49] <Burgundavia> just install it on the server
[01:49] <Burgundavia> for an icon or a per-user setting you need sabayon
[01:50] <Shane-S> ahh ok
[01:51] <Shane-S> I guess when I think of the terminal server I am envisioning the entire process, not just the OS loading...because I do know that DHCP tell the client how to handle PXE or Boottp requests, as per the K12 docs
[01:52] <Burgundavia> right
[01:52] <Burgundavia> k12ltsp has a bunch of hacks for controlling users desktop
[01:52] <Shane-S> never really had a push to use it, but I am working in a small school this coming year, and thin clienting may be their best solution with little $
[01:53] <Burgundavia> for ubuntu's ltsp, for policy you use sabayon and for realtime control use thin-client-manager
[01:53] <Shane-S> ahh ok
[01:53] <Burgundavia> if you going for a school, I would use edubuntu
[01:54] <Burgundavia> try #edubuntu
[01:54] <Shane-S> yeah, have to check that package out
[01:54] <Burgundavia> edubuntu is not a package
[01:54] <Burgundavia> it is partner project of ubuntu
[01:54] <Shane-S> I only know a bit about Fedora and Ubuntu atm, but the K12 guy customized his package pretty well for a school
[01:55] <Burgundavia> like I said, k12 has some nasty hacks to make it work
[01:55] <Shane-S> sorry should say "offering" I guess, not meaning like a software package :D
[01:55] <Burgundavia> right
[01:55] <Burgundavia> I would download Edubuntu and try it out
[01:56] <Burgundavia> probably the easiest way to get going
[01:56] <Shane-S> alright thanks
[01:56] <Burgundavia> and hang out in #edubuntu
[01:56] <Burgundavia> there are good people there
[02:16] <pirroh> do-release-upgrade is one of the coolest thing of edgy :P
[02:22] <hads> Nice, didn't know that existed.
[02:24] <pirroh> hads: I preferred a dapper-edgy-feisty path
[02:24] <pirroh> than dapper-feisty... too dangerous ;)
[02:26] <Burgundavia> dapper feisty is not supported
[02:26] <pirroh> Burgundavia: if I s/dapper/feisty/g in sources.list ... dist-upgrade won't work?
[02:27] <Burgundavia> it might, but I wouldn't do it
[02:27] <pirroh> I think no one can stops you if you wanna try this kind of suicide
[02:27] <pirroh> me neither
[02:39] <pirroh> goodnight
[04:18] <Rescue9> I'm back... more questions. :-P
[04:18] <Rescue9> Searched google... can't find answer. Hope you guys can help. I need to select os on next boot, so I can boot into various distro's from a shell without monitor or keyboard. I knew it was possible in gnome a while ago, but haven't found out how to do this from console.
[04:19] <Rescue9> Ok guys... wakeup again already. :-P
[04:27] <Burgundavia> I have no idea
[04:28] <Rescue9> ROFL.
[04:28] <Rescue9> No worries... I think I found my answer in ##linux
[04:31] <Rescue9> bbl
[06:27] <pauliukas> Heya everybody.
[06:27] <pauliukas> Anyone wanna help out a desperate guy?
[06:40] <Burgundavia> what is your issue?
[06:40] <pauliukas> Trying to mount a firewire drive.
[06:40] <pauliukas> Is there any special procedure that I should follow?
[06:40] <Burgundavia> right
[06:42] <pauliukas> Go on.
[06:42] <pauliukas> On the desktop version of Ubuntu, it just mounts fine.
[06:42] <Burgundavia> right
[06:44] <Burgundavia> generally, figure out what device it is and use mount to moutn it
[06:44] <pauliukas> I know. That's what I usually do.
[06:44] <pauliukas> Dmesg gives this: http://pastebin.ca/532446
[06:46] <Burgundavia> hmm
[02:20] <Wooksta> hey kr8, u around bud? :)
[02:22] <Wooksta> my ubuntu fiesty fawn server keeps resetting just after it gets past grub (i get a "Startup up..." message and then the system resets).. I have tried re-isntalling several times & have also tried other distros which don't seem to have this problem, can anyone help save my fawn? :<
[02:59] <Neopath> hi guys.. hey I'd like to get a "beep" from my pc speaker when my server is done booting.... any references or ideas?
[04:22] <Shane-S> where can I check to see why WinSCP3 keeps getting a connection reset by peer error. I am trying to connect to my Virtual Machine Ubuntu Server, it may be virtual machine itself, but I want to make sure
[04:23] <Shane-S> I guess to simply it, is there a SSH error log? I would assume in /var/log/?
[08:10] <Scunizi> For someone to watch a video that is stored on a LAN server from the WAN side, do I need to setup a streaming server? and or FTP server so it can be downloaded directly from the page?  It currently times out.