[12:11] great [12:12] you're getting tired of my questions aren't you?;) [12:12] You won't regret trying Python :) [12:13] I'm sure I won't, as soon as I manage to configure it. But it requires a handler in a different way than PHP obviously. Isn't it weird that my apache.conf has nothing with php in it, and that php still works? [12:13] It's in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5 [12:14] Or thereabouts [12:14] so is mod_python.load on my system ;o [12:14] you're getting tired of my questions aren't you?;) <-- I'm not just to know how much python programming experience you have [12:14] leonel: ok..:) [12:14] Maybe CGI would be easier to setup? [12:15] Isn't that what I'm trying to do?:D === CarlF1 [n=carl@adsl-75-57-187-38.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:20] php handles all the php scripts in all your HTDOCS [12:20] as i want python to do too :) [12:20] mod python goes for directories using handlers [12:20] or the publisher === lbm [n=lbm@0x555373ab.adsl.cybercity.dk] has joined #ubuntu-server [12:23] so when the webserver gets a request from one of it's .py files it first contacts the handler. Which is defined as mptest in my apache.conf, which tells the webserver that it's to be handled by /usr/bin/python? [12:28] http://www.geirola.net/hest.png [12:28] this is what i've got so far.. [12:29] move your .py out of the apache HTDOCS [12:29] just realized i had that error [12:30] oh..not that error [12:30] but ok [12:30] so move mptest.py to something like /etc/python ? [12:30] put that mptest to another dir as i told you and add that yo your sys.path [12:31] i did a import sys; sys.path.append("/etc/python") [12:31] now it's in the sys.path list [12:31] and mptest.py is in /etc/python [12:32] but not in your mod-python's sys.path [12:32] that's why you need to put that in your apache config [12:32] probably not..:o [12:32] like.. ? [12:33] oh..you mean PythonPath "sys.path + /etc/python/" ? [12:33] what does ? [12:36] look at http://www.geirola.net/hest.png now [12:36] you see the error i get in my browser window as well there [12:56] ok..now i'm a step further [12:57] it's now showing "hello world!" with whatever .py file i throw at it [12:57] so it has obviously reached mptest.py === gejr [n=geo@062016209061.customer.alfanett.no] has left #ubuntu-server [] [01:25] hi [01:26] I was wondering if there's a way to update from dapper minimal to feisty server [01:26] installing all the packages provided by a fresh feisty install [01:26] (dapper footprint on hdd is 250mb... feisty fresh install is 500mb) [01:26] so I guess there are more default packages on the server install === Shane-S [n=chatzill@c-71-225-195-34.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [01:27] I think the official path is through Edgy first, but a dist-upgrade may work. [01:27] are there grouped in some metapackages maybe? [01:27] is SSH enabled by default on 6.10? [01:27] Shane: iirc, no [01:27] hads: no problem for me going through edgy [01:28] I was wondering if there's a way to include all the packages :) [01:28] what is the package name I tried apt-get install SSH, doesn't like that package name [01:28] aptitude search ssh [01:28] ohh apt is short for aptitude :P [01:29] pirroh: Not sure sorry. Do you really need them if you don't now? :) [01:29] nm, I have used that before :D thanks [01:29] no, they're different programs with similar functionalities [01:30] hads: yep, good question... the truth is that I bought a vps, and I can't use an iso image... I like to have fresh installs... I know it's not a big deal ;) [01:31] pirroh: I've always just changed the release name in sources.list and done a dist-upgrade - maybe I've been lucky but I've never had any issues. [01:32] hads: yep, it will work, of that I'm sure. I was simply wondering what are the defaults of the server install.... and why they're different from the minimal setup ;) [01:32] pirroh: Sorry, can't be of much help there :) [01:36] hads: np, tnx anyway ;) [01:38] pirroh...you could have told me it is ssh not SSH :P [01:38] my fault for being a dummy with the case though :D [01:39] pirroh: I was just browsing through the package list and can't see any obvious meta packages [01:39] all installed and happy now, thanks [01:39] Shane-S: Everything is lower. [01:40] Shane-S: the next time you'll surely remember ;) [01:40] hads: tnx for the check [01:40] i have worked with enough I should have known....just being normal brain dead self [01:41] maybe the only manual change i've got to do is the kernel image [01:41] switching to a server kernel image [01:41] anyone here have experience with LTSP on Ubuntu? I want to know if it is better then the Fedora LTSP projects, like K12LTSP [01:42] I am not very familiar with LTSP, just curious which would work better and faster [01:46] Shane-S: yes === sahafeez [n=sahafeez@ip68-6-223-156.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [01:47] Shane-S: k12ltsp is ltsp 4.2. Ubuntu's is ltsp 5, which is newer, has more features and is better designed [01:48] Burgundavia: I have never set one up from scratch, and I am not familiar with the desktop, how do you customize it for each user? [01:48] customize a desktop for each user? [01:48] for that you need Sabayon [01:49] like push a new icon/application for all the "users" to see when they log into the server via a TC [01:49] ltsp is merely a method of getting on OS onto a machine, not a method of controlling what users see [01:49] for the application, that is easy [01:49] just install it on the server [01:49] for an icon or a per-user setting you need sabayon [01:50] ahh ok [01:51] I guess when I think of the terminal server I am envisioning the entire process, not just the OS loading...because I do know that DHCP tell the client how to handle PXE or Boottp requests, as per the K12 docs [01:52] right [01:52] k12ltsp has a bunch of hacks for controlling users desktop [01:52] never really had a push to use it, but I am working in a small school this coming year, and thin clienting may be their best solution with little $ [01:53] for ubuntu's ltsp, for policy you use sabayon and for realtime control use thin-client-manager [01:53] ahh ok [01:53] if you going for a school, I would use edubuntu [01:54] try #edubuntu [01:54] yeah, have to check that package out [01:54] edubuntu is not a package [01:54] it is partner project of ubuntu [01:54] I only know a bit about Fedora and Ubuntu atm, but the K12 guy customized his package pretty well for a school [01:55] like I said, k12 has some nasty hacks to make it work [01:55] sorry should say "offering" I guess, not meaning like a software package :D [01:55] right [01:55] I would download Edubuntu and try it out [01:56] probably the easiest way to get going [01:56] alright thanks [01:56] and hang out in #edubuntu [01:56] there are good people there [02:16] do-release-upgrade is one of the coolest thing of edgy :P [02:22] Nice, didn't know that existed. [02:24] hads: I preferred a dapper-edgy-feisty path [02:24] than dapper-feisty... too dangerous ;) [02:26] dapper feisty is not supported [02:26] Burgundavia: if I s/dapper/feisty/g in sources.list ... dist-upgrade won't work? [02:27] it might, but I wouldn't do it [02:27] I think no one can stops you if you wanna try this kind of suicide [02:27] me neither [02:39] goodnight === sahafeez_ [n=sahafeez@ip68-6-223-156.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === sahafeez [n=sahafeez@ip68-6-223-156.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === sahafeez [n=sahafeez@ip68-6-223-156.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-server === Rescue9 [n=rescue@host-72-51-174-30.newwavecomm.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:18] I'm back... more questions. :-P [04:18] Searched google... can't find answer. Hope you guys can help. I need to select os on next boot, so I can boot into various distro's from a shell without monitor or keyboard. I knew it was possible in gnome a while ago, but haven't found out how to do this from console. [04:19] Ok guys... wakeup again already. :-P [04:27] I have no idea [04:28] ROFL. [04:28] No worries... I think I found my answer in ##linux [04:31] bbl === Rescue9 [n=rescue@host-72-51-174-30.newwavecomm.net] has left #ubuntu-server [] === sahafeez [n=sahafeez@ip68-6-223-156.sd.sd.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-server [] === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-server === pauliukas [n=Paulius@bas1-montrealak-1167905945.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-server [06:27] Heya everybody. [06:27] Anyone wanna help out a desperate guy? [06:40] what is your issue? [06:40] Trying to mount a firewire drive. [06:40] Is there any special procedure that I should follow? [06:40] right [06:42] Go on. [06:42] On the desktop version of Ubuntu, it just mounts fine. [06:42] right [06:44] generally, figure out what device it is and use mount to moutn it [06:44] I know. That's what I usually do. 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I have tried re-isntalling several times & have also tried other distros which don't seem to have this problem, can anyone help save my fawn? :< === FearDaWooksta [n=Wooksta@82-41-99-118.cable.ubr03.dund.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-server === nrpil [n=nrpil@s5591f679.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #ubuntu-server === Neopath [i=orgasma@dsl17-131.express.oricom.ca] has joined #ubuntu-server [02:59] hi guys.. hey I'd like to get a "beep" from my pc speaker when my server is done booting.... any references or ideas? === kupesoft [n=dave@bas11-toronto12-1088921071.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-server === PanzerMKZ [i=Panzer@09-122.136.popsite.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === Shane-S [n=chatzill@c-71-225-195-34.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:22] where can I check to see why WinSCP3 keeps getting a connection reset by peer error. I am trying to connect to my Virtual Machine Ubuntu Server, it may be virtual machine itself, but I want to make sure [04:23] I guess to simply it, is there a SSH error log? I would assume in /var/log/? === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@gnewsense/friend/kgoetz] has joined #ubuntu-server === Pumpernickel [n=pumperni@CPE0016b6c9fba4-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-server === _2bi [n=darkcode@xdsl-87-78-85-206.netcologne.de] has joined #ubuntu-server === sacater [n=sacater@colchester-lug/member/sacater] has joined #ubuntu-server === Scunizi [n=Scunizi@ip72-197-240-36.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-server [08:10] For someone to watch a video that is stored on a LAN server from the WAN side, do I need to setup a streaming server? and or FTP server so it can be downloaded directly from the page? 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