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TheSheeprijo: maybe you need to configure your router and add the mac of your laptop to it, to allow connecting, or increase the limit on the number of computers that can connect at a time?12:29
DaBeowulfWow I'm puzzled. I downloaded the Linux www.adom.de version unpacked it and when I want to execute the program it says:12:29
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DaBeowulfHuh did that paste thing work?12:30
DaBeowulfAnyway here: Failed to execute child process "/home/ubuntu/Desktop/adom/adom" (No such file or directory).12:30
DaBeowulfBut what did I try to execute then?12:31
TheSheepDaBeowulf: I think that adom is in the repositories12:31
TheSheep!info adom12:32
ubotuPackage adom does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas12:32
TheSheep:/12:32
TheSheepor not12:32
DaBeowulfWhat would that mean 'in the repositories'?12:32
DaBeowulfAnyway why does it tell me it's not there when I try to execute it? O_o12:32
TheSheepDaBeowulf: how did you run it?12:34
TheSheep(try to run)12:34
DaBeowulfdouble click or right click -> execute12:34
DaBeowulfIs it because I only booted the OS from the CD?12:35
TheSheepDaBeowulf: no, open a terminal and try to run it from there12:35
TheSheepDaBeowulf: you see, adom i s text-mode game, it needs a terminal to run12:35
TheSheep(although the error message is weird)12:36
DaBeowulfwhat is the command? when I type adom it says command not found although dir shows it12:36
DaBeowulfamong the readmes and stuff12:36
TheSheepcd Desktop/adom12:37
TheSheepand then12:37
TheSheep./adom12:37
DaBeowulf"No such file or directory12:38
StOoOoTheSheep: cheers. i found gnash can play (very) simple flash stuff and they're working on youtube support - sudo aptitude install mozilla-plugin-gnash :)12:40
TheSheepDaBeowulf: fun12:43
TheSheepDaBeowulf: does 'ls' show it?12:43
DaBeowulfit does in green12:44
DaBeowulfas does dir (just not in green) like I said.12:44
DaBeowulfI don't think that's fun, though. :|12:45
DaBeowulfWeird maybe.12:45
DaBeowulfHmm, I've thrown the mount point to my Win HDD onto the desktop as well. Maybe it doesn't like that.12:46
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snyftyo12:49
snyftanyone that can tell what bootable flag does?12:49
DaBeowulfI'll try a fresh boot and not making my HDD accessable..12:51
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TheSheepsnyft: on old computers allows to boot from that partition12:53
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snyftok12:57
snyfti chose yes seemed like a safe bet :d12:57
xubuntu-live-usehello, i'm curious, is there a way to get icons to preview the file like gnome does in ubuntu?12:58
xubuntu-live-usefor instance, if the file is a video or a picture, it will be a slightly large icon with a snapshot/preview of the file.12:58
TheSheepxubuntu-live-use: yes, you just need the thumbnailer for that particular kind of files installed12:58
TheSheepxubuntu-live-use: there is a thumbnailer for images installed by default12:59
TheSheepxubuntu-live-use: the thumbnailer for movies is included in the totem package12:59
xubuntu-live-useso, i need  to specify that these thumbnailer apps run at startup?01:00
Catoptromancymine work by default01:00
Catoptromancyshould be something in preferences or view01:00
TheSheepxubuntu-live-use: no, you just need to have them installed01:00
TheSheepxubuntu-live-use: you don't have thumbnails for images?01:01
xubuntu-live-useTheSheep: nope, i've put some movies and pics on the desktop to test this.01:02
xubuntu-live-useperhaps i'm using an outdated xubuntu live cd?01:02
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TheSheepI think that pictures worked always01:02
TheSheepmaybe not on the desktop01:03
hydanTheSheep: doesn't work in the File Manager either.01:03
hydanwhat app should i install?01:03
hydanxzgv?01:04
TheSheephydan: the picture thumbnailer should be installed together with thunar01:04
hydani'm using the latest xubuntu, v. 7.0401:06
hydani'm sorry if i'm annoying.01:07
hydani'm trying not to be.01:07
hydanwhat settings menu would allow me to specify if i want thumbnails?01:11
TheSheephydan: open the file manager, go to edit->preferences01:13
TheSheephydan: there should be a checkbox next to 'show thumbnails'01:13
hydanit's checked to show them01:13
TheSheephydan: what kind of images are these?01:14
hydan.jpg and an ogg theora video01:14
TheSheep:/01:15
TheSheepshould work01:15
hydanhmm, oh well.01:15
hydanthanks. i won't ask again, unless i install ;)01:15
hydanh/e, if i've already got a copy of ubuntu, i suppose i could simply install xubunt-desktop.01:17
snyfthow do you configurate grub?01:19
snyftbecause when i start my computer i get "error cant find operating system" but when i boot from xubuntu and choose boot from first hard drive i can get to grub01:20
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xubuntu-live-useto whomever: why is xfce considered faster than gnome?01:23
spaceraver hmm, i have hosed my system (again)01:23
crimsunxubuntu-live-use: it has a smaller in-memory and cpu-time footprint by default.01:23
spaceraverthink it's the NTFS-3G drivers.. but how do i get to the cli and remove it??01:24
xubuntu-live-usewell, thanks for the help today. bbl :)01:27
xubuntu-live-use/exit01:27
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Jester45 !seen vidd_laptop01:53
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snyftnobody that can help with my problem?02:06
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Jester45whats your problem02:10
snyftok so i got this error after installing xubuntu. i disabled the harddrive to boot from so i could boot up the xubuntu install cd. then when it finished i added it again. and now i get "error cant find operating system" but if i boot with the cd and choose boot from first hd i get to grub and can choose what to boot.02:13
Jester45looks like somthing got erased on the harddrive02:13
snyftit cant be the bootorder in grub?02:14
snyftor something like that.02:14
snyfti even tried reformating and reinstall xubuntu02:14
snyftdident help02:14
Jester45hummm...02:14
snyftcan it be because i enabled bootflag? :s02:15
snyftit was set to no by default but i changed it to yes.02:15
Jester45maybe try in #ubuntu this doesnt seem to be xubuntu spefic02:15
snyftok02:15
Jester45well you would need to be bootable to boot02:15
snyftbah.02:18
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jgamioSomebody know what is the yeld02:20
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dchagwoodDoes anyone here know of a PS/2 keyboard bug?  I've tried 2 different one and I get the same problem.  No keyboard input after the kernel starts.02:36
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Jester45hey vidd03:05
Jester45im done with my site03:05
viddcool03:05
Jester45unless i think of somthing to add but other than that its compelete03:05
viddthis is not the room to talk about it03:06
Jester45i guess not03:06
kalikianaAnyone here familiar with perl? Where can I set module paths?03:06
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tuppahrm03:22
tuppaperhaps my search-fu failed me03:22
tuppabut how does one drive a WPA wifi connection with xubuntu?03:22
tuppai.e. is there a network-manager subtitute for xubuntu?03:22
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Pumpernickeltuppa: wifi-radar, although it's not installed by default.03:41
sntcan somebody help me with grub?03:43
Pumpernickel!anyone03:43
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?03:43
sntwell i want to see all hds or something like that in grub03:44
kalikiana_snt, It has tab completion, you could try typing '/dev/' and pressing tab.03:44
sntoh ok03:45
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sntit dident work03:46
sntit just repeats /dev/03:46
kalikiana_Hm.. and if you type just '/dev'?03:47
sntdident work either03:47
kalikiana_I'm sorry, I don't know any better then.03:48
snt:(03:49
Jester45try /dev/h<tab>03:50
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R[a] ndomor just ls /dev/sd*03:55
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mboso_I set my default XTerm font size to large in my Xdefaults file. when I use Alt+2 to launch an xterm it works, but when I use a keyboard shortcut I created (alt+f1) it still uses the old size. How can I make the change apply to the keyboard short cut as well?04:36
h3athi need some help getting aurora gtk theme installed.04:41
h3athat the end of configuring i get this message:  configure: error: "GTK+-2.10 is required to compile aurora"04:42
h3athand i do believe i have all the gtk packages.04:43
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Pumpernickel!info libgtk2.0-dev04:51
ubotulibgtk2.0-dev: Development files for the GTK+ library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.10.11-0ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 2529 kB, installed size 9120 kB04:51
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Jester45anyone here know of a linux compatible portable media player?04:57
viddJester45, http://tuxmobil.org05:02
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lunixmanxubuntu rocks!05:52
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siimohi anyone using gutsy gibbon.. notice the xfce panel launchers icons are weirdly getting zoomed in gutsy06:10
PumpernickelGutsy support is in #ubuntu+1.  This sounds more like a bug, though, which should be filed in launchpad.06:12
Jester45gusty isnt alpha yet dont expect to many things to work perfectly06:12
siimoyeah not complaining...06:12
Jester45Pumpernickel: is it aplha yet?06:12
siimoPumpernickel: what is interesting that the icons looks fine if your panel width is fat but if i make it really small like 25 then instad of icons reducing size they dont fit inside and their edges disappear06:13
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PumpernickelNo, it's not alpha yet.  There should be a test cd image spun out by the end of this week, but that'd be the first.06:21
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edgarinHi people07:00
edgarinsome people in the channel?07:00
Catoptromancy69 people07:00
edgarincool!07:03
edgarinI have a problem07:03
edgarinI have a laptop Dell Latitude D300XT07:03
edgarinPII 300mhz with 128mb RAM07:03
edgarinbut the installation hangs07:04
edgarinyou have some idea?07:04
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edgarin<edgarin> I have a problem07:48
edgarin<edgarin> I have a laptop Dell Latitude D300XT07:48
edgarin<edgarin> PII 300mhz with 128mb RAM07:48
edgarin<edgarin> but the installation hangs07:48
edgarin<edgarin> you have some idea?07:48
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aabrahaoHi, How can I install apache with all modules, including php?07:49
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cinvokehello? anyone in here?07:51
Jester45a few07:51
cinvokeso quiet07:51
Jester45its kinda late07:51
Jester45at least for europe07:51
cinvokeo07:51
cinvokenot sure if u can help, or where i can go for help, but i cant seem to figure out what soundcard, and driver i have/need07:52
Jester45!spreadsheets07:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about spreadsheets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:53
Jester45:(07:53
Jester45you can try in #ubuntu its more alive07:56
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j1mccinvoke: what is the problem?07:58
j1mcaabrahao: this may help you: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty07:59
j1mcif that page references "gedit" you may replace it with "mousepad" for a graphical installation.07:59
j1mcerr... a graphical UI text editor.08:00
aabrahao<j1mc>  thanks08:01
j1mcyou are welcome.  it is a pretty handy basic "getting started" guide...08:02
hyper__chhiho08:40
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NikilosHi everyone08:46
j1mchi Nikilos08:46
NikilosI have been trying to install a theme on Xubuntu, but it doesn't seem to be working08:47
NikilosCan anyone help me?08:47
j1mchmmm... ok.08:47
j1mci'll try08:47
j1mcwhere are you trying to install the theme?  what folder?08:47
NikilosWell, I've tried /usr/shared/themes and /home/%user%/.themes08:48
NikilosBoth don't work08:48
j1mcok.  how did you "unpack" the theme files, did you use ... i think it's called xarchiver?08:49
j1mc... you're trying to add the files to the right folders, though.08:49
NikilosYes, I used Xarchiver08:49
j1mcactually, i think it's /usr/share/themes... (not /usr/share...)08:49
j1mci mean, not /usr/shareD08:49
j1mcbut anyway... :)08:49
j1mcone thing to check is that you mark the check box that says to use the full path (when you unpack the file)08:50
hyper__chj1mc: where can you download the ubuntu packages from?08:50
j1mchyper__ch: which ubuntu packages?08:50
hyper__chj1mc: the ones you can install through apt08:50
j1mchyper__ch: you mean, where does ubuntu store the .deb files that you download through apt?08:51
hyper__chj1mc: no, where I can download the .deb files from the ubuntu repos08:52
j1mchyper__ch: do you want to download all of them, or just a specific one or two?08:52
j1mcNikilos: did my comment help?08:52
hyper__chj1mc: I just want to know where they can be downloaded from :)08:52
j1mci know how you can DL individual packages... (hold on a sec... i'll give an example)08:53
j1mchttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search08:54
j1mcyou can search for packages there08:54
hyper__chj1mc: all I know is a web adress for a browser to point to that can be used to download the .deb packages08:54
j1mchttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/amd64/xfce4-panel/4.4.1-1ubuntu108:55
j1mcthat's where you could get the .deb for xfce4-panel08:56
NikilosI'd like to install this theme here: http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/etude-4?content=54509 but failed to do so08:56
hyper__chj1mc: found now this:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/  that's simpler to use08:58
j1mchyper__ch: that should let you see the packages, but i don't think it will let you install them.08:58
j1mcor download them... not from there, anyway.08:59
hyper__chj1mc: it does.... it finally lists the mirrors and from there you can then download the .debs08:59
j1mcNikilos: when you open up xarchiver, do you see two check boxes along the lower right-hand side?08:59
j1mchyper__ch: oh, cool.  :)08:59
NikilosLet me check...09:00
hyper__chit looks exactely the same as the package thingy for debian :)09:00
NikilosNo, I don't see two check boxes09:00
j1mcNikilos: give me a moment...09:00
hyper__chsince I enabled uPnP in KTorrent it runs really neatly :)09:02
j1mcNikilos: ok... when you select the tar.bz2 file in xarchiver... and then go to extract it, you should see the check boxes09:02
j1mcdoes one of the check boxes say, "recreate folders" or "use full path" or something similar?09:03
Nikilos"Extract Here" or "Extract To"?09:03
j1mctry Extract To09:03
NikilosIt says "Files to Extract" and the options are "All" and "Only Selected"09:04
j1mcok, select all...09:04
j1mcthen what happens09:04
NikilosWell, it extracts all the files to a specified location09:05
j1mcwhen you open up that extracted folder, what's inside of it09:06
NikilosAnother folder called etude-4.609:06
j1mcand what's inside of that folder?09:07
NikilosAnother folder called xfwm409:07
j1mcok... cool.09:07
j1mcso what is the name of the folder that you pasted into your /usr/share/themes folder?09:08
NikilosI actually deleted that folder a bit ago09:08
NikilosSo I don't remember09:08
j1mcok, well... try pasting the e-tude... folder into the appropriate location.09:09
NikilosWhich is /usr/share/themes, correct?09:09
j1mcyes09:09
NikilosAnd do I run User Interface Settings now?09:10
j1mcor you should be able to just go to your home directory and type "mkdir .themes"09:10
j1mcand install the folder there.09:10
NikilosDo I type that in Terminal?09:10
j1mcyes09:10
NikilosOk, I have the folder in .themes now09:13
j1mcok.  is it in your user interface chooser option list?09:13
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NikilosShould the folder order be like this?  /.themes/etude-4.6/xfwm4?09:13
j1mcyeah, i think so09:14
NikilosBecause it's not showing up in the list09:14
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j1mchmmmm....09:15
NikilosIs there any reason for it not to show up?09:18
j1mcNikilos: can you check the XFCE Window Manager settings (not User Interface Settings).09:20
NikilosSure09:20
NikilosOk, it's up09:20
j1mcw00t!09:20
j1mcit was in the window manager settings?09:20
NikilosEr, it's in the Manager Settings, yes09:21
NikilosOH09:21
NikilosThere we go09:21
j1mc:D09:21
NikilosThank you so much!09:21
j1mcyw!09:21
j1mcbtw, i found the answer here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=44922909:21
NikilosThanks again!09:21
j1mcit is difficult for me to help with xubuntu when i'm running gnome on top of debian on my dsktop, so i think i need to put xubuntu on it.  :)09:22
NikilosIndeed09:22
j1mctake care.09:22
j1mci'm going to sleep09:22
hyper__chj1mc: you run gnome????????? ;)09:22
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hyper__chveto09:22
j1mchyper__ch: only because i wanted better samba support09:22
j1mcand i'm going to wipe it in the next few days09:22
hyper__chok :)09:23
hyper__chhow is deb 4.0?09:23
j1mcit's been good.09:23
j1mci'm actually running "lenny" which is the new name for debian testing.09:23
j1mcit's pretty much the same as etch right now, though.09:24
hyper__chis it usable as desktop-os?09:24
j1mcnothing too drastially different.09:24
j1mci would say yes.  definitely.09:24
hyper__chok... I still tend to think debian is great for servers and ubuntu great for desktops :)09:24
j1mcyeah, ubuntu has a slight edge on the desktop, but the latest debians still have a lot going for them on the desktop.09:25
hyper__chgoodnight then :)09:25
j1mcgood night!09:26
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hyper_chlol:   "defenestration" -->  http://ubuntuforums.org/g/images/167727/1_Defenestration.GIF11:25
Raging_Hoghehehe11:32
Catoptromancyheh11:36
Catoptromancy= (11:36
CatoptromancyI had pure ubuntu for a month and had to dualboot11:36
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TehRealNexGenhi does anyone know which file is used to edit shortcuts?11:50
TehRealNexGenkeyboard shortcuts11:50
hyper_chTehRealNexGen: applicatiosn --> settings --> keyboard settings :) what do you need to edit the file for?11:55
TehRealNexGento use button 4 on my mouse to switch to next workspace11:55
TehRealNexGenand alt11:55
TehRealNexGenbutton 4 and 5 is my scroll wheel btw11:57
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hyper_chTehRealNexGen: then I guess it's in /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:03
hyper_chI guess I'm wrong on that12:07
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hyper_ch!record12:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about record - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:22
hyper_ch!screencast12:23
ubotuSome programs to capture your screen are Istanbul, Wink, Gvidcap, Xvidcap, vnc2swf, demorecorder.  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.12:23
rimmington!xubuntu-system-tools12:23
rimmington!k3b12:23
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto12:23
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SomeKindOfMonste!html01:28
ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem, and Nvu. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com01:28
SomeKindOfMonstenone of them is in xunbuntu01:28
grazieSomeKindOfMonste: All them can be installed. For example01:31
grazie!info nvu01:31
ubotuPackage nvu does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas01:31
grazie!info bluefish01:31
ubotubluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.7-1 (feisty), package size 1570 kB, installed size 6724 kB01:31
totalwormage(is the universe repo enabled?)01:39
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thirdy_wats the command to reg my nick?01:53
thirdy_grazie,01:53
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Merchelo/msg nickserv register <password>01:58
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hyper_ch!install02:02
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate02:02
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thirdy_grazie: check this out, http://main.thirdy.freehostia.com/Thirdy%20likes%20linux.html02:17
thirdy_hyper_ch: http://main.thirdy.freehostia.com/Thirdy%20likes%20linux.html02:17
thirdy_Merchelo: http://main.thirdy.freehostia.com/Thirdy%20likes%20linux.html02:17
hyper_chnot good to have spaces in a the URL02:18
thirdy_not good for browsers?02:18
hyper_chnope02:18
TheSheephyper_ch: why not?02:19
hyper_chTheSheep: many reasons :)02:20
TheSheephyper_ch: name one02:20
hyper_chit looks ugly :)02:20
TheSheephyper_ch: you can type normal space there too02:21
TheSheephyper_ch: and it will work02:21
hyper_chbut then a lot of programs don't recognize it as url02:21
TheSheephyper_ch: that's not the browser's problem02:21
thirdy_bros, wat do think bout wat I wrote?02:22
hyper_chTheSheep: it is... when you click on it the browser doesn't have the right url02:22
hyper_chthirdy_: why making another site for that? most of that has already been covered on countless sites and I tend to think ahving it all in one place would be much better02:32
thirdy_hyper_ch: can you tell some of those sites?02:34
hyper_chwww.ubuntuguide.org02:34
hyper_chwww.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php02:35
hyper_chand many other smalls...02:35
hyper_chthirdy_: I don't want to stop you from creating one... I just want to point out that there are already huge ressources available :)02:37
thirdy_thats one of my probs02:37
thirdy_there are tooo many02:37
thirdy_and too huge02:37
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hyper_chI think ubunguguide and psychocat give a fair overview for starters02:38
tripppyis there a hardware chart/guide for ubuntu installs? like a flowchart or something?02:38
thirdy_yeah, maybe I just don't read a lot02:38
thirdy_don't like reading that much02:39
thirdy_I have a new 128mb geforce402:39
thirdy_and ice pointer in penguin racer is still sloowwww02:39
hyper_chtripppy: what do you mean?02:40
hyper_chthirdy_: do you have the proprietary nvidia drivers installed?02:40
tripppyhyper_ch, well i have ALOT of hardware and i would like a guide or somehing so i can plug in some hardware specs and get a recommended ubuntu install02:41
thirdy_haven't installed anything bout drivers here in linux02:41
tripppyie a P3600 with 128 ram and 256mb hardrive02:41
hyper_chtripppy: I don't know what you mean... either your hardware will be recognized or it won't02:41
tripppyno more about the type of install. xubuntu , ubuntun, kubuntun, server etc...02:42
hyper_chtripppy: and for some hardware like webcams and wifi card you try to get those running with alternate stuff... but mostly it's go or no-go02:42
thirdy_hyper_ch: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/FPS_Games02:42
hyper_chtripppy: you can't install it on that computer... 256mb disk is too slow02:42
hyper_chtoo low I mean02:42
thirdy_what should I get?02:43
hyper_chthirdy_: how should I know?02:43
tripppyhyper_ch, same hardware but a bigger HDD? could i run xubuntu?02:44
hyper_chwith a hd of 256mb you should consider using DamnSmallLInux or featherlinux02:44
thirdy_dats my prob02:44
tripppyyeah i know...02:44
hyper_chtripppy: yes, xubuntu would be the only one... but even 128 mb ram are quite low02:44
tripppykk02:44
thirdy_I'll have to try it, install it02:44
hyper_chyou'd be better of using dsl or feather....02:45
tripppyyeah i know. i use DSL alot.02:45
thirdy_only to find out that my system doesn't like it02:45
tripppywell i used to02:45
tripppyi have it installed on my 128flash card.02:45
tripppyso would 512mb ram. 10gig HDD and a PIII 600mhz. run xubuntu well?02:46
hyper_chyes, that should be fine02:46
tripppyim reading here -> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/minimal02:49
tripppymini cd... cool02:49
tripppysoooo what do these installs after downloading those suggested packages?02:50
tripppytake up in size?02:50
tripppysorry stoned.02:50
hyper_chtripppy: dunno02:51
thirdy_is there testmyhardware.com for linux?02:51
tripppydam...02:51
tripppyyeha?02:52
thirdy_aside from beryl what else is "wow"?02:54
tripppycompiz02:54
thirdy_is it lighter?02:55
thirdy_I have 128vram02:56
thirdy_1.1duron02:56
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thirdy_256ram02:56
tripppyno. its using way to much. plus im in ubuntu02:58
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thirdy_so ubuntu is a plus for fat?03:08
thirdy_I min heavier for your comp03:08
Ramlaxfwm's compositing is nice.03:11
Ramlasettings -> window manager tweaks -> compositor tab03:11
TheSheeplinux doesn't actaully have lots of "wow", it just works03:12
TheSheepberyl/compiz is an exception -- in both of these statements ;)03:12
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thirdy_Only beryl and compiz is the wow?03:26
thirdy_wat else?03:26
TheSheepquoth the sheep: nothing more03:30
thirdy_Metacity03:30
thirdy_Only for GNOME?03:30
thirdy_wats for KDE?03:30
TheSheepnot sure, but you can use metacity with xfce too03:31
TheSheepit's just the window manager03:31
TheSheepinstead of xfwm403:31
thirdy_OK I'm new to all these term03:31
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thirdy_*terms03:32
TheSheepthirdy_: window manager is the part that is responsible for drawing and positioning the windows03:32
thirdy_TheSheep: can you give me a quick big picture of linux?03:32
thirdy_ok lets start with wat composes xubuntu?03:32
thirdy_haha, did vista imitated?03:33
thirdy_Desktop Window Manager03:34
TheSheepthirdy_: all the systems take from each other, you can't tell anymore what was invented where03:34
TheSheepthirdy_: there are lots of parts, best read the dekstop guide or some other introductory book03:34
thirdy_I wish there a distro dat gives all the linux newbie all he needs to become a linux pro03:36
TheSheepthirdy_: you won't become a linux pro by hanging to a single distro03:36
TheSheepthirdy_: one of the main points of linux is diversity03:37
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thirdy_ok, so wats my window manager?03:38
thirdy_ALT+F203:39
thirdy_then wat?03:39
aabrahaohi, How Can a fix broken packages? Via synaptic in edit fix bronken packages is not resolving03:39
TheSheepxfwm403:39
thirdy_I'm using xubuntu, then installed kununtu-desktop03:39
TheSheepthirdy_: but if you see windows, then it's already running03:39
TheSheepaabrahao: "broken"?03:40
thirdy_so that the command to use wen I'm in the console modE?03:40
TheSheepthirdy_: no, that's a command that is used automatically when you're logging in and starting the whole graphical desktop03:41
aabrahao<TheSheep> yes, broken03:41
TheSheepaabrahao: broken how?03:43
thirdy_I can't run KWin03:43
aabrahao<TheSheep> in synaptic when I mark a package to remove, for exemple, the error is Could Not Aplly changes, fix broken packages first. Then I go to edit fix broken packages and hen appears a unable to correct dendencies03:45
TheSheepaabrahao: close synaptic, open terminal and type 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'03:50
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aabrahao<TheSheep> sill the same eror03:54
thirdy_TheSheep: window manager == edit UI?03:54
thirdy_I wanna every program to appear in my desktop03:55
thirdy_how can I do that?03:56
GrueTamerthirdy_: what do you mean? just like, desktop icons, or what03:58
thirdy_yeah, Is there an editor or something like that?03:59
thirdy_GrueTamer, with some effects04:00
thirdy_=)04:00
GrueTamerand that means...04:00
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GrueTameri remember that making icons wasnt difficult, hold on, ill launch X once i have breakfast in front of me04:00
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GrueTamerthirdy__: sorry, ive been trying to figure out how to add icons in xfce (i assume youre in xfce), and i dont remember how04:07
TheSheepGrueTamer: to menu or to desktop?04:08
TheSheepor to panel...04:08
thirdy__GrueTamer, I'm using KDE04:18
thirdy__I installed kubuntu-desktop04:18
GrueTameroh04:18
thirdy__someone got my nick04:19
thirdy__how do I get it back?04:19
thirdy__I've registered my nick04:19
GrueTameryou can log in with /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>04:20
TheSheepthirdy__: you never logged out, you're here with two nicks now04:21
thirdy__oh04:21
thirdy__ok04:21
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thirdy__Ok so how bout autoplaying an mp3 wen you start KDE?04:22
GrueTamertheres an option for that somewhere...04:22
GrueTamersince ive installed kde for the fun of it, ill launch that now, gimme a minute04:24
GrueTamerthirdy__: in the control center, go to multimedia and sound, then system notifications04:26
GrueTamerbut it might not work with mp3 files04:26
thirdy__ok, any good sound file converter?04:28
thirdy__mp3 to .ogg04:29
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lunixmanhello04:42
lunixmanwhat should i type in the command prompt for ubuntu to detect my other partitions? i have other partitions in a single harddrive04:43
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TheSheep!partitions04:48
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter04:48
TheSheep!fstab04:48
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions04:48
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grazielunixman: "sudo fdisk -l" is the usual way to list partitions04:59
lunixmangrazie: i already tried that, but it only listed my partitions, it didnt make them accessible through my /media folder05:00
grazielunixman: then you have to mount manually or add entries to /etc/fstab as above ^^05:01
lunixmanhow do i mount manually?05:01
lunixmanthrough the command prompt05:02
lunixmanlast time i remember some guy gave me a command05:02
lunixmanand it automatically installed my extra drive05:02
Cinnanderman mount05:04
grazielunixman: "sudo mount /dev/hdx /media/mount-dir" where hdx=partition device and mount-dir is the mount dir which you probably want to create. This will be lost on reboot05:04
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grazielunixman: note, nothing is installed. If the drive is new, is will need to be partitioned and the partition will need to be formatted before i can be mounted.05:06
grazieit can* ^^05:06
grazielunixman: you should always unmount manually mounted devices after using them. "sudo umount /media/mount-dir"05:09
lunixmanok05:09
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Jester45how can i remove the first 6 letters on a much of files05:13
Jester45bunch*05:13
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TheSheepJester45: use the bulk rename in thunar05:25
TheSheepJester45: you mean file names, right?05:26
Jester45yea05:26
TheSheepJester45: or the content?05:26
Jester45does that open when you select more than one file and try to rename it? becuase it just trys to rename tham all to untitled.mp305:26
TheSheepJester45: change the method05:27
Jester45o i think i see it05:27
lunixmanhello grazie05:27
lunixmani finally mounted hda505:27
lunixmanunfortunately it has an X marked on top05:28
lunixmaneven as root user05:28
lunixmani cant change the options under Permissions05:28
Jester45thanks TheSheep that works perfectly05:29
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W8TAHhi folks -- i installed the ubuntustudio packages, and have now found that i dont need all of whats in them -- how can i un-install the packages as a group, like they were installed?05:37
vidd_laptopsudo apt-get remove [main package name]  && sudo apt-get autoremove05:38
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thirdy_is that equivalent visual studio?05:38
thirdy_in windows?05:38
W8TAHvidd_laptop, thanks05:40
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thirdy_is there a function in some irc client, wer you get to set auto join channels?05:46
thirdy_I'm using xchat05:47
vidd_laptopthirdy_, yes there is....05:47
vidd_laptopgo to the network list....05:48
vidd_laptopedit your default network....05:48
vidd_laptopand put in the channels to join in the following format:05:49
vidd_laptop[no space] #[chan1] ,#[chan2] ,#[chan3] 05:49
vidd_laptopthere are no spaces anywhere in this box05:50
vidd_laptopthirdy_, did any of that make sense?05:51
W8TAHvidd_laptop, thank you -- that solved my problem -- :)05:52
thirdy_thanx05:54
thirdy_done05:54
thirdy_vidd_laptop, is there any guide on how to start from scratch to kubuntu?05:55
Jester45thirdy_: apt-get inatll kubuntu-desktop05:56
Jester45install*05:57
vidd_laptopno...but if you want to do a complete changeover.....then sudo apt-get remove x11-common && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get install [ubuntu flavor of choice] -desktop05:57
Jester45my way just adds on to xubuntu05:58
thirdy_yeah that wat I did05:58
thirdy_but I got an error05:58
thirdy_the some1 told me this05:58
vidd_laptopthis will take out x11 and every scrap of gui-stuff with it, and install your flavor of choice without anything you dont need05:58
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thirdy_<hyper_ch> thirdy: do first this:   sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade05:59
thirdy_<hyper_ch> thirdy: then do reboo and then sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop05:59
thirdy_now sometimes I just get a blank scree on boot up06:00
thirdy_*screen06:00
Jester45did you dist-upgrade into a new version or was it just a normal upgrade06:01
thirdy_dunno06:05
thirdy_sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade06:05
thirdy_thats the exact command I did06:06
Jester45did you edit sources.list before that06:06
thirdy_nope, never06:06
Jester45ok06:06
Jester45upgradeing to diffrent version can cause trobles06:06
thirdy_Now I'm planning to just download kubuntu iso06:07
thirdy_kubuntu-desktop doesn't give every apt in kubuntu06:07
thirdy_I didn't have Kdevelop06:08
thirdy_after install kubuntu-desktop06:08
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TheSheepthirdy_: why don't you just install the programs you need with synaptic?06:14
thirdy_TheSheep, yeah but the boot up problem is still ther06:15
TheSheep"the boot up problem"?06:15
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vidd_laptopwhat "boot up problem" you having thirdy_ ?06:16
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Jester45TheSheep: could you help me with setting up my mpd?06:19
Jester45Starting Music Player Daemon: Error reading db, fgets06:20
Jester45failed.06:20
TheSheepJester45: what did you change?06:21
Jester45where all the files are at06:21
Jester45i will restart from scratch06:21
TheSheepyou have to remember that mpd runs as a different user, it needs the rights to read the music files06:22
Jester45yea the music folder is read/write to all06:22
Jester45just to make sure06:22
TheSheep>_<06:23
Jester45ok i got a fresh .conf06:24
Jester45is the only thing i need to do is change the muisic directory and restart mpd then mpd --create-db ?06:24
TheSheepyes06:25
TheSheepactually, it should do --create-db by itself06:26
Jester45ok.. it cant open my music directory but it should be able to06:26
Jester45couldnt i just let it run as me?06:27
TheSheepJester45: just add mpd to your group06:30
TheSheepJester45: in /etc/group06:30
TheSheepJester45: and make the directory group-readable06:30
Jester45in thunar i set each option to read/write06:31
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b52GMhello06:32
b52GMdoes any one have a intel wireless card 2200BG06:32
b52GMi can not have my led wireles on06:32
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Jester45TheSheep: mpd is not in /group06:36
Jester45or /etc/group06:39
Jester45ok... mpd cant open the tag_cache even though i have it running as root06:43
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lunixmanhow do i delete a directory using mkdir?07:01
lunixmanor is it another command?07:01
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Amon-sanwhat lightweight office application would i use with xubutu?07:13
TheSheepAmon-san: Abiword for word processing, gnumerica for spreadsheet07:14
TheSheepAmon-san: oarge for calendar07:14
TheSheeporage07:14
Amon-sanok, thanks07:15
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Jester45lunixman: use rm -rf /path/to/directory07:23
Jester45TheSheep: if i try to run mpd as root i cant access the db07:23
TheSheepJester45: maybe mpd drops the permissions?07:24
TheSheepJester45: many daemons will change its user when you run them as root07:24
Jester45well the conf says if you dont give it a user it will keep root07:25
Jester45If started as root, MPD will drop root privileges and run as this user instead.  Otherwise, MPD will run as the user it was started by.  If left unspecified, MPD will not drop root privileges at all (not recommended).07:25
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Jester45so i figured it would try it just to i know it works and figure out the problem after that but it says the db permission denied07:26
Jester45and i checked with top and it is running as root07:27
TheSheepJester45: what is the path to the db in the config?07:27
Jester45/var/lib/mpd/tag_cache07:28
TheSheepJester45: ls -ald /var/lib/mpd/tag_cache07:28
Jester45-rw-r--r-- 1 root audio 86 2007-06-03 11:23 /var/lib/mpd/tag_cache07:29
TheSheepchmod g+rw /var/lib/mpd/tag_cache07:30
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Jester45ok07:31
Jester45its adding now07:31
TheSheep:)07:32
Jester45ok.... but mpc will not play anything07:33
Jester45i tried mpc next and mpc play07:33
TheSheepJester45: checked your sound levels?07:33
TheSheepvolume07:33
Jester45its not saying it playing07:34
Jester45only says07:34
Jester45ryan@ubuntu:/var/lib/mpd$ mpc play07:34
Jester45volume:  0%   repeat: off   random: off07:34
TheSheephaha, volume 0%07:34
TheSheepmpc volume +5007:34
Jester45but its not playing anything07:36
Jester45it should be saying the song name and time07:36
Jester45plus the voume doesnt do anything on my system07:36
Jester45but thats not a problem for me07:37
Jester45got to go eat07:40
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thirdyhow do I reduce eye candy in kubuntu, the one with slide meter07:58
thirdyKDE07:58
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brinsta1hi, quick question, does xubuntu come with a webserver, if so , which one?07:59
kalikianabrinsta1, There is none preinstalled. But you can easily install e.g. apache2.08:03
brinsta1thanks kalikiana08:04
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Tron04where does xubuntu store the last used resolution?08:18
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DeviadHello, I have some problems with my audio card of my macbook pro08:21
Deviadthe audio is not so good08:21
Deviadit croaks08:21
thirdyany good site where I can learn how to make custom distro?08:27
kalikianathirdy, I have 'linuxfromscratch' in my head, not sure if that is what you want...08:33
thirdyhow bout rBuilder08:34
GrueTamerlinuxfromscratch is what i think of\08:35
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Jester45 TheSheep: ok, mpd --create-db scans all my files but sonata doesnt show any thing in the library and i think thats the problem with mpc09:13
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Jester45ok i got a db now,  i dont know how09:18
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hyper__chTheSheep: what are the differences betweens ext3 and reiserfs?09:37
Jester45reiserfs v4 seems much faster09:38
kalikianaJester45, ReiserFS *is* fast, but possibly unstable.09:43
kalikianaMany people say it's way faster than ext3.09:43
Jester45i would say 20-30 % faster09:44
kalikianaSo you got ya answer.09:44
Jester45v3 isnt much faster09:44
Jester45xfs is ok on low spec machines09:45
Jester45and i dont really care for jfs09:45
Ramlahttp://zork.net/~nick/mail/why-reiserfs-is-teh-sukc09:47
kalikianaArg, that site has an unreadable font.09:48
RamlaWhat do you mean? Size, colors?09:51
Jester45sytle and size make it kinda hard for me09:52
RamlaCould be a point or two bigger, but I like the colors09:53
kalikiana^^ Yep, it's too small and the font type isn't that good for long text.09:53
Jester45its white and black... just like my whole desktop09:54
RamlaI looked at the source and stylesheet, didn't see a specific font face set09:54
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B1zzhi, i got a wireless network,  i can connect to my wireless router grab an ip, i can also ping my router, but i cant get web pages to load.  Maybe I am missing a step? Any ideas09:57
Jester45yea i read that whole little thing and i dont really mind relying on ups09:58
hyper__chhmmm, xjs seems to be the best one... quicker than ext3 or reiserfs09:59
Jester45what reiser10:00
vidd_laptopB1zz, did you set your DNS up?10:02
B1zzOh. No...how would i go about doing that?10:03
vidd_laptopwell...lets test that it is the problem first.....10:03
B1zzOK10:03
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vidd_laptopput 4.79.226.105  in your web browser...does it load?10:06
B1zzchecking now.....10:06
vidd_laptopor 4.79.226.10510:08
vidd_laptopor 4.79.226.10410:08
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vidd_laptopanything?10:08
B1zznope10:09
vidd_laptopok....what is your routers ip?10:09
B1zzIt just sits there looking for the page10:09
B1zzinternal?10:09
B1zzor external?10:09
vidd_laptopit would be your gateway ip address10:09
B1zzinternal i have it set to 192.168.2.110:10
vidd_laptopyou have two computers....right?10:10
vidd_laptopone that connects and one that does not....right?10:10
B1zzwell, like i said, i can grab an ip on the 2nd one, can ping the router, but not net access10:11
vidd_laptopso then....yes...you have 2 computers connected to this router....are they both wireless or is the working one wired?10:12
B1zzboth are wireless10:12
vidd_laptopon the one that WORKS....what is the gateway ip?10:13
vidd_laptopis it a windows box or a linux box?10:13
B1zzI cant seem to see it with ifconfig, but i do bealive its the routers ip10:14
vidd_laptopok...then what does ifconfig say its inet address is?10:15
vidd_laptopand is it set for dhcp or static?10:15
B1zz192.168.2.3 the ip im using on this pc and my router is set to dhcp10:16
B1zzas well as the pc10:16
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vidd_laptopsorry B1zz ...iu had a call (im at work)10:28
vidd_laptopok....so what you want to do is try to connect to 192.168.2.110:30
vidd_laptopdoes this bring up your router's setup page?10:30
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vidd_laptopB1zz, you still there?10:36
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B1zzyeah, im sorry, I have a kvm switch and i was on the other pc10:36
vidd_laptopah...ic10:36
Jester45so what do you do at your work vidd, you never seem busy10:36
Jester45well tell me in out channel10:37
vidd_laptopare you able to access the router set-up pages on the problem machine?10:37
B1zzwell yes and no.  I have 2 wireless routers set up.  It hooked up to the 2nd one, and i was able to get the page.  But that's not the one that has the internet. so i unpluged it10:38
B1zznow im trying to get access to the other on, and cant seem to get the page to load10:38
vidd_laptopB1zz, you are going to need to ifdown then ifup your wireless card to get that to happen.....10:40
B1zzyeah thats what i am doing.10:40
B1zzweird, the connection is unstable now, it says connecting to the router it connects, but when i do dhclien, it looses the ap and the it does not grab an ip and it just loops that10:46
vidd_laptopwhy are you doing dhclient?10:46
B1zzto grab an ip?10:47
vidd_laptopwhat happens when you type iwconfig?10:47
vidd_laptopand what kind of wireless card you got?10:47
B1zzgives me my info.  AP mac and my wireless network name10:48
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vidd_laptopok....does the router have MAC filtering turned on?10:48
B1zznope10:48
vidd_laptopwhat kind of wireless security do you have in place?10:49
B1zzwpa10:49
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Jester45couldnt you just use MAC filtering?10:50
B1zzyeah, i could, but i prefer wpa :D10:51
vidd_laptopdo you have wpa-suplicant [or whatever they use for it these days]  installed?10:51
vidd_laptopand coded correctly?10:51
B1zzim sure i do, but i will verify.  I will go back to google, and do a search for my problem.  Maybe it will fix the problem i was asking you about too :D10:52
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B1zzthank you very much for your time vidd_laptop10:53
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vidd_laptopany time B1zz10:54
vidd_laptopwell,,,, anytime im online!10:54
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B1zz:D trust me ill be coming back here....im trying to get this all set up, so i can mess around with the backtrack 2 installation i have on my laptop10:55
Jester45how would i blank a dvd-rw in the cli11:02
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jacklowi was wondering if someone could help me. i keep getting an error msg when i try to install11:50
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rijoi just installed xubuntu on my laptop. and configured the screen res to 1024x768.. but it still is 800x600.. really when i change xorg.conf and restart x nothing happends.. is there any other place i need too chabge?11:54
Ramlarijo: which driver are you using?12:01
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rijoRamla: ati12:02
rijoATI Technologies Inc Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x12:02
rijoautodetected12:02
RamlaOkay.. can't help much then.. I just had a similar problem with nvidia driver12:05
W8TAHanyone know if the debs for xchat from their site are any good?12:05
Ramlarijo: it seems the metamodes -option should work for ati driver too. it's a line to be added to xorg.conf12:08
Ramlafor example: Option"MetaModes""1024x768_60 800x600_60"12:08
RamlaGoes to the Device-section12:08
rijooh12:08
rijoi try that12:09
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Jester45hey vidd12:16
viddwhatup12:17
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